02-05-2024 City Council Work Session Minutes
CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
SPECIAL MEETING – WORK SESSION
MINUTES
FEBRUARY 5, 2024
Mayor Ryan called the work session to order at 7:00 p.m.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Ryan, Councilman McDonald, Councilwoman
Schubert, and Councilman Kimber.
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: Councilman von Oven.
STAFF PRESENT: Laurie Hokkanen, City Manager; Matt Unmacht, Assistant City Manager;
Charlie Howley, Public Works Director/City Engineer; Eric Maass, Planning Director; Jerry
Ruegemer, Park and Recreation Director; Kelly Grinnell, Finance Director; and Kim Meuwissen,
City Clerk.
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Dan Kjellberg, Kraus-Anderson
Bryan Harjes, HKGi
Paul Michell, BKV Group (via Teams)
Mike Healy, BKV Group (via Teams)
Debbie Lloyd, 7302 Laredo Drive
Janet Paulson, 7305 Laredo Drive
Linda Norderhaug, 7603 Frontier Trail
CIVIC CAMPUS DISCUSSION
Bryan Harjes from HKGi reviewed the agenda and began the presentation with a summary of the
project needs and goals. The needs focused on the facility study results of the existing city hall
and the cost to renovate versus building new, projected growth, and following the guiding
principles of the 2017 Downtown Vision Plan. The goals included creating a destination civic
and park space, supporting a vibrant downtown, providing year-round activities, and offering
multi-generational amenities.
Mr. Harjes reviewed the overall project site plan showing the building and amenity locations and
off-site infrastructure improvements. Floor plans for all three levels of city hall were presented
followed by the floor plan for the Park Pavilion building. Renderings were presented showing
multiple city hall exterior elevations as well as the first-floor lobby entrances and stairs. Mr.
Harjes provided details of the overall park space, including a number of integrated features
around the park pavilion. These features included the stage component, and the flexibility of the
performance space for yard games, farmers market, concert series, etc. Renderings provided at
the December 2023 open house were presented which included the gateway monument signage,
playground, hang out area, park pavilion seat wall and stairs, splash pad, stage and concession
area, and outdoor living room. Multiple layouts of the performance area space were presented.
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Mr. Harjes presented a budget comparison showing the major differences between the original
concept plan to the current design development plan. An overview of the current development
design project budget was presented which included current project revenue sources as well as
potential additional revenue sources. Current construction costs were presented, including a list
of value management items, soft costs, and the project budget summary. Tentative project add
alternates were reviewed along with a project budget summary with these alternates.
Mr. Harjes presented current costs in the project to help manage the budget, including pre-bid
design contingency and escalation costs and post-bid construction contingency costs.
Mr. Harjes paused at this point for questions. The council asked about the relocation of the fire
department monument, and soil and geotechnical concerns and associated costs.
Mr. Harjes presented three scenarios for council consideration and discussion:
• Scenario 1 or 1B – Current design track with or without add alternates: Base Bid =
$1,035,000 over budget with add alternates range = $0 to $894,000
• Scenario 2 or 2B – Reduced base bid plus expanded add alternates or park pavilion
building as add alternate: Base Bid = +/- $310,000 over budget to +/- $1,005,000 under
budget; add alternates range = $0 to $2,934,000
• Scenario 3 – Match concept budget: Base Bid = $0 over budget
Mr. Harjes asked the city council to consider the following questions:
1. Which scenario should staff and the design team follow?
2. What is the council’s comfort level for the base bid relative to budget?
3. What are the desired add alternates for the project?
4. What is the desired direction for the stage cover?
Council Discussion
Mayor Ryan asked the council for their input on the budget and the scenarios presented. Most of
the city council did not want to use additional funding sources. The bid package dates were
discussed. Mr. Kjellberg responded that Bid Package 1 was published today, but tonight’s
discussion will drive Bid Package 2. Mayor Ryan expressed frustration that the project is over
budget and that the council is being asked to answer the questions at the eleventh hour.
Mr. Harjes responded that they are providing more knowledge and trying to articulate a
framework for tolerance, as well as trying to find strategies to achieve a comfort level for all
based on the city council’s priorities. He suggested that they may have to wait for the council’s
decision until after Bid Package 1 results are received.
Mayor Ryan asked if there is a way to find a percent to cut back within our forecasted budgets to
issue bonds for the cost overage. Finance Director Kelly Grinnell responded that interest rates
have been falling and are projected to fall even more. Based on the projected October interest
rates provided by Ehlers compared to the current rates, they are down 38%, which amounts to
$400,000 annually from the city’s debt service payments. The 2025 original projected levy
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increase to 7.4% which includes the debt service payments. If we kept the bond amount at the
current level of $34.6 million and factored in issuance costs and the first year of interest
payments, the 2025 levy increase would drop to 6.6%. If $2 million was added to the bond
amount, assuming lower interest rates, the 2025 levy increase would be 7%. Ms. Grinnell also
said that when the bonds are issued, the proceeds would need to be spent within two years to
avoid having to pay back any interest earnings.
Mayor Ryan appreciated this information but would like to see hard numbers to reduce the 2025
budget at a future meeting. She asked if there was time to wait for Bid Package 1 results or what
could be recommended prior to the council choosing one of the scenarios. Mr. Kjellberg stated
that the numbers will be available on February 29. City Manager Laurie Hokkanen asked the
council if they choose to stick with the $35 million budget, then they could get relatively close
with Scenario 2 which would include the park pavilion and the stage structure. Staff can bring
ideas to the next meeting on how to pay for any overages and discuss the levy impact to the
increase in the project cost.
FUTURE WORK SESSION SCHEDULE
February 26, 2024
• Commission Interviews
• 82nd Street Design Team Presentation
March 11, 2024
• Commission Interviews
• Discuss Commission Appointments
• Downtown Design Guidelines and Wayfinding Plan Review
March 18, 2024
• City Council Roundtable
• City Manager Performance Review (CLOSED SESSION)
Mayor Ryan adjourned the work session at 8:30 p.m.
Submitted by Laurie Hokkanen
City Manager
Prepared by Kim Meuwissen
City Clerk