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1992 05 11 BORC~ BOARD OF EOU~LIZ~TION ~le REVIEW SI~CZ~L NEETDI~ ~I~Y 11, 1992 Mayor Chmie! called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.. ~EJ~BERS PRESEN?~ Mayor Chelel, Councilman Mason, and Councilman Workman ~E~BERS M~SENT: Councilman Wing and Councilwoman Otmler ST~FF PRESENT: Oon ashworth, City Manager; and Todd Gerhardt, asst. City Manager COUNTY ~SSESSORS PRESENT'- Orltn Schafer, Steve 3ust and ann Wyse ~pPI~4/RL OF NZNUTES: Councilman Workman moved, Councilman Nason- seconded to- approve the Nlnutes of the Board of Equalization and Review aeetind dated april 20, 1992 as presented, all voted In favor and the motion carried. - ~TINU.qTZON OF THE ~ OF EOI.ML.TZ.qT/OM ~ REV/EiJ. Mayor Chmiel: Don, do you have anything? Oon ashworth= The Council may want to discuss how you'd like to handle these. We have put out the one packet basically aho~lng the XistXng'that has been : agreed to between the assessor and the owners. I think in previous years you've typically had one motion on that and then you can-either handle those that have asked for additional consideration individually or.co~ to some form of consensus as you walk through thee and then do one ms, motion. You've done it both ways and I think both ways have been successful. Orlin, did you have anything addition to add? orlin Schafer: 3ust that the Council ts aware that the sheet that says property owners coming to agreement with the County i~a~essor. Some of thee actually saLd yes, ! agree with that number. Some did eot but-none of'thee voiced, an oplnton that they were totally unhappy with It or that they wouldn't accept that. Those that did voice that ended up on thls blue. sheet and-this #as prepared by your staff Don and there are some additions and we noted those. ! don't keo# if anyone has picked up on them. . . Mayor Chelel: No, I don't believe some of them have. Item'number 50 should be put on the blue sheet, Helen Hartmann. Orlin Schafer: and number 3 also. Mayor Chmiel: Larry 3. anderson. Orltn Schafer: and item number 140. Item number 36 which is on the bIue sheet could in essence be put on the pink sheet because he has stated-that that's an acceptable number. 1 iii III I I IIIIII ....... Board of Review Meeting - May [[, [992 Mayor Chmiel: Before ! even open this up, is there anyone that would like to address this at this time? I see you sitting here. Andrew Olson: ...if mine was lowered or not. ..._ Mayor Chm£el: Okay, and what was your name? Andrew Olson: Andrew Olson. Oon Ashworth: $137,100.007 Mayor Chmiel: That was the agreed to value from what you had previously. Steve Just: It was $144,800.00 and we're proposing to lower it down $7,700.00... Hayor Chmiel: Okay. Todd Gerhardt: So you're in agreement with $[37,100.007 Andrew Olson: Right. Don Ashworth: You wanted to verify yours? Mrs. Schm[eg= Yes. Don Ashworth= And your name was? Mrs. Schmieg: Schmieg. Mayor Chmiel= Donald? Mrs. Schmieg: Right. Mayor Cheiel: That was at SZO,O00,O0. I don't know what it was previous[y. can look it up here but maybe you can find it quicker than I can. You're in agreement with that also? Okay. [s there anyone else? Okay. I would like to just probably keep this open for a wh/J.e..becauee some people may not show until 7:30 and if we don't have people here by 7=30, then we'll move on. Councilman Workman= ['d like to propose a 3~ across the board reduction. Councilman Mason: Z'll double that. Councilman Workman: Is this being recorded? Mayor Chmiel: Yes it is. Orlin Schafer: I do have a question for Don I guess it would be. Is your staff want to send out the letters of notification or do you want us to do it on your stationary or what? Don Ashworth: Really it doesn't matter. Board of Review Xeettng - Hay Il, ~992 Orlin 5chafer: Z was thinking we've got the addresses and everything-tn the- computer. Do you also? Don ashworth: ! don't think so. Orlin Schafer: Okay, we can do Lt. Oon ashworth: ! think tt would be better If you dtd Lt. Steve Just: It would give us an opportuntty to double check. Orltn Schafer: We've got everything Just as tt ts tn that lo, er of the sheet and that's the taxpayer and uhatever so that's how tt would be addressed. Todd Gerhardt: Oo you want to leave with letterhead tonight? Orltn Schafer: Yeah, because we'd like to get started on It and send them out. We're doing tt for every other Jurtsdictton In the County so that's why we set tt up in this procedure. Counctlman Mason: are we going to make a motion to approve these others or are we going to watt awhtle? Mayor Chmiel: Well, let's Just hold off because ! don't want to make that motion unttl we have someone to come tn. Councilman Mason: ! meant the ptnk sheet. Mayor Chmtel: Even those. Some of these, as he said, were talked to and dtscuseed but no real form of opinion was given... Counctlman Mason: Good enough. Mayor Chmtel: Okay, maybe If you can Just go through some of these as to each one of these that we have here with the assessor's value. Considered value. What It was before and us'ye.got rtght tn the back here'as well so that's not' too dtfficutt to do. Oon Butcher. Steve Just: ! put htm on the ltst...waen't able to_make contact. Z'left a tag on the door and... : ~ .. Mayor Chmiel: The market value was $84,700. What was the previous? Steve Just: ...! thtnk tt was prevtously assessed at mid &O's. Something like that. " Mayor Chmiel: Now he-was reassessed again? Steve Just: No. The value for 1992 stayed the sase as 1~91. He was looking at the tax statement. Mayor Chats1: Okay. any discussion on this one? Tom? Michael? Councilman Workman: No. Board of Review Meeting - May 11, 1992 Mayor Chmiel: alright. Let's take Dingel, James & Janet. $113,100. is the estimated value. What was their contention? That it should be what? Orltn Schafer: actually we intended to leave that one the same after we analyzed the numbers. [t was purchased in '85 at $L09,000. and it currently is at $113,100. so there's a time Lapse... Mayor Chmiel: any discussion? Councilman Mason: Z'm not sure this even pertains to this but overall Orltn, can you just comment a little bit. How does the, if all the other homes are valued at x number of dollars. T f the inside of a home in the same neighborhood is really trashed, how does that affect that appraisal? Generally. I'm not talking about this specifically. Orltn Schafer: [f we are capable of getting inside that home and have knowledge of that, we'd depreciate that home on an individual basis, yes. ann Wyse: This home, we did get inside this home. [ didn't but another appraiser did and he said it was in good condition. Orlin Schafer: actually what the calculations indicated, it could have a little more value than it has. But the situation being that it is, we'll leave it at that value. Councilman Workman: What can be made from the fact that these people are not here? Orlin Schafer: They're well aware that they can appeal to the County level. -Councilman Workman: And that's what they're maybe going to choose to do? Orlin Schafer: Every one of these people have knowledge of that and we discussed it. I did with some and the rest of my staff did with the others. Councilman Workman: So they're not looking for relief from us. They're waiting for the County? Steve 3ust: ! think we indicated that we'd bring it to your attention and if you thought differently or...we are Looking at in our numbers, that a change would be made at that time. If not,...County Board. Orlin Schafer: and they're relying on the data they gave to sou your opinion. I mean this is what they're doing, and if it doesn't, they'll proceed. That's basically what ! felt with every person that I talked to on the issue. Those that were on the pink sheet had, in a sense they have an acceptable demeaner about thee. They're saying well, okay. I guess that isn't so bad when you explain it like that. Well that kind of a comment tends you to believe that the value's acceptable and sometimes ! just ask that. Do you feel that's a reasonable value? Yeah, I guess it is. I mean we've researched the whole thing and we gave thee the numbers we came up with. Board of Review Meeting - May 11, 1992 Mayor ChmIel: 3ust let me ask one question OrlIn. Coming up with the estimated market value comparables In the neighborhoods where eels hoBee are exchanged and sold. Some additional improvements put Into those homes. And as much as sometimes $30,000.00 or $40,000.00. When that takes place and the expansion ts done to that house wlth those Improvements, the existing homes In those neighborhoods who are on either side or within that 'block, hob-does thio basically affect those other homes? Orlln Schafer: It wouldn't affect those homes say for.that currently.assessment but If the overall, If this happened to the overall neighborhood over a period of years, then Lt would begin to reflect that as sales take .place to lndlcate that the sizes and so forth, qualtty Ks changing. Ualues are Increasing. ·Then It catches them but generally we look at a bulld£ng permit for instance for a three season porch, and we look at that. How It applies to that lndtvtdua! house. Not the neighborhood. So the bad part of that Is, that one house Is being addressed for an addition but It does not necessarily mean his .value Is changing because of that addition. It will probably Increase somewhat but'maybe there's something else that deteriorated to offset that Increase In .value so we're looking at not only the addition but the whole of the parcel. Now in some theory that's wrong. You're only supposed to apply the value to the add~tlon. #e11, cost does not equal value. You can stick $S0,000.00 Into :something that really Is only adding $1S,000.00 to the eale...we are cognizant of that and that's why we take that approach. That we're Looking at,.after we check .the addition, we're looking at the property as a whole, and we value that parcel. Not the neighbors. That parcel as a whole. Now If it happens that there's 4 or 5 on a street, then maybe the whole street wll! get it because in essence they are increasing the value of their neighbors by Improving their own ·property. Not much. You know the Impact ts different but still the potentLal's there. Mayor ChmIeL: I guess the thing that kind of keeps coming back to me Is that some of the people are saying that prices for their estimated market values.they had Is not basically what they can probably emil .those for and-I-look at this. Orlin Schafer: We run the risk of that happening if we don't address the property as a whole because If we've got a $100,000.00 unit-out there and . they've put on a $1S,000.00 value addition and we.~ould put It on at 15, there's nothing that says they're going to get $~15,000.00 for that.-.#e have to In turn look at that as a whole and.really they. might be getting $105,000.00. So that's why we do It from this approach. Hayer Chmlel: Yeah. and I guess that's the point-that I'm trying to make. There's only so much you can put Into a home without getting your value back from lt. Orlin Schafer: You're positively right. That's correct, and that's sometimes hard to bring to that homeowner because the dream-Is that you get back everything you put tn. · . .. Nayor ChmleL: That's right. But it normally doesn't happen. Naybe we can have your name and as we're going along here and check out to see If you agreed with the assessor. Hark Keller: Sure. Hy name is Hark Keller. I live at... Board of Review Meeting - May 11, 1992 Mayor Chmtel: You're agreed to value would be $113,800.00. Mark Keller: Yeah, several days after I was here on April 20th Z received a call and that would be the judgment... Mayor Chmiel: Yeah, it will take place once after we get done with this evening... Councilman Workman: But you're satisfied wlth that value? Mark Keller: Yes I am. The purchase price of the home was $ilS,000.O0...iast meeting was 85~ of the market value... Councilman Workman: Isn't it 95? Mayor Chmetl: Yeah, it's 95. Orltn Schafer: Actually it's 90. 93 something. 93.6 or whatever it was. Mayor Chmiel: Okay, good. Thank you. Let's go on wtth our next one. You indicated that Fink was satisfied. Steven Fink, with what that $123,100. right? Orlln Schafer: Right. Steven had. Ann Wyse: I had talked to him today. Mayor Chmtel: Alright. The next one is Robert and Oebra Finley. Any discussion? Councilman Mason: Just a quick comment on, she says here. Home is in competition, or they say. Excuse me. Is in competition with brand new housing. How do you people, how does that work with new houstng going 1nrc an area 11ke that? Orltn $chafer: Okay, depending on the price range she's sitting In, she's the competition for the new housing because someone can buy into this and do those repalrs and come up to her $110,000.00 or whatever much easier perhaps than going into a new $120,000.00 home. So in a way yeah. They are in competition wlth new housing but people that are willing to buy the new housing or build the new housing, have looked at listed housing and chosen that their opt[on really ts new construction. For the most part they're people from outside the community. They're not a whole lot of people that come to Chanhassen, the eastern part of Carver County looking for housing. They come out here looking for a lot. Or housing to fit, build to fit them or something like that. They're not coming looking for old housing. It's people wtthln the community generally that buy used housing. They move up. They step up. That kind of thing. That's what can happen, 11ke tn their case, they could possibly list this house, sell it and move into something new on their own. That kind of thing. Councilman Workman: But they bought for $110,000.00. Mayor Chmiel: Right. Board of Review Meeting - May 11, ~992 Orlln Schafer: Z think the reasoning behind the value Increase ts quite apparent. It's sat at that value for a couple of years. And aL1 of a sudden It moved and when it moves that great, It attracts attention. Todd Gerhardt: So to replace this house on that lot you would say It would be above the $110,000.00 with all the same fixtures and everything else? How much more higher do you thLnk? Orlin Schafer: Ann, did you do that one? Ann Wyse: ! got the Information on it. We didn't get Into this property. Another assessor tried to get In. ! don't have the age of the house. Yeah, they bought It In 198& for $~10,000.00. Todd Gerhardt: I thLnk that's what Mike uss getting at. Is-there a price. difference between a house that's LO or ~5 years older than a house that's brand new with the same fixtures, same square footage and everything else? Orlln Schafer-' There definitely is. We look at, .I mean you build this-house as If new Mike and then we depreciate It for those things known to fit to cause Loss In value. And that's what.Me arrive at. Where the sa~e house brand new might be $125,000.00. Oepreclatlon sets tn and we're down to $108,000.00. Ann Wyse: Yeah, It's over a ~,300 square foot house. Basement's finished-and fireplace. CounciLman Mason: I'm trying, as Long as It's pretty ca[m, Z~m trying.to.do-. some Learning as we're going along here. · , Orlln Schafer: That's- fine. Mayor Chmlel: Okay. Let's move on to the next one. Donald Goetze. I guess this was valued at $~23,~00. It seems like you couldn't get back Into these people's home. Looks like the value Increase ts'over $1,200.00 Increase tn taxes. Saying It's about $~2,000.00 too high. Ann Wyse: We couldn't contact the owners. They didn't contact us and 80 we were unable to get Inside the property but It Is over ~,~00 square foot house. It was built in 1955 but tt was remodeled In 1980 so It's not, evldentally ts not a 1955 house at this point. It's on .83 of an acre wooded-sits so I. feel that it's at a fair level of assessment~ $123,~00.00. We do:have some sales. Not right on, Is that on Frontier? OrLln Schafer: Yeah. Ann Wyse: Not right on Frontier but we have some tn the Western Hills. Some sales of property that had sold for $130,000.00. Here's one, $~38;500.00. and ~t's a I,&O0 square foot rambler. Another one, $~32,000. It's a ~,500 square foot rambler.. Orlin Schafer: With 600 square feet of basement finished so there's a few thLngs that offset that value but that brings him within a reasonable value In relationship to those. Board of Review Meeting - May il, 1992 Mayor Chmiel: Is this, do you know whether or not this particular basement has been finished or through the years with building permits? Orlin Schafer: Well that's what we don't know. We haven't been able to get in. would suspect some is because it's a split entry. Ann Wyse: We've got 800 square feet listed but it's. Orlin $chafer: That can be considered Irving area rather than basement finished so we don't know how that split affects this house. That's why we like to get in because sometimes somebody says it's a split entry and you envision something totally different than what it really is. There again we tried to contact him repeatedly. Councilman Mason: I don't think there are very many homes on Frontier that are worth less than $120,000.00. Orlln Schafer: From what we read out of our sales, you're correct. Anything there will bring that. I mean that's what we've been able to show. Mayor Chmtel: Okay. And discussion. Okay, let's move on to Gorrtll and Degner. Councilman ~orkman: Purchase price, it's still less than the purchase price 1990. Councilman Mason: Did he want it higher? Mayor Chmiel: We'd like to appeal our property assessment feeling that the property assessment is ~5~ higher...found that ours was the highest. Is that pretty consistent with what he's say£ng as to what those others are? Ann Wyse: Another appraiser went over the other homes with him and there were differences. There were reasons why his was assessed more. Like.he has a larger lot and it backs up to a park area. It's half an acre. $o it's larger than most of those other parcels he was looking at. There were other differences like he has a walk out basement. Another one didn't. There were differences that were discussed. Orlin Schafer: Repeatedly all those that he was indicating were lower than his, there was something to make it lower in a reasonable mode. Don Ashworth: But they probably weren't much. I meanl the other ones they looked at were $~00,000. or $105,000. or something like that. Orlin Schafer: Yeah, it's within a couple thousand dollars always and none of them were $15,000.00 spreads. It wasn't that situation at all. Ann Wyse: This subdivision was reviewed by Scott Winter last year. He went door to door and he entered everything in our computer system. So it's pretty equalized as an assessment right now. Board of Review Meeting - Hay 11, 1992 Orlln Schafer: We did some adjusting on this neighborhood last year too. So this k~nd of was an attempt to kind of fine tune that neighborhood. Mayor Chmtel: Purhcase price of hoes, $113,000. and $110,000. Okay. Next one is Hovanec, Jeffrey. Number 56 which is $232,000.00. ! see the recommendation on this was to lower that. Reduce $44,000.00 to $222,800. Steve Just: Reasonable sale price. Entering it into the computer and equalizing it with the neighbors. The other two neighbors are at 9&2 and 972 of their market value also at, one is for $23&,000. and the other one is for $244,000. within the last couple years-. Like ! said, the level of assessment on those are in the mid 90's also. Mayor Chmiel: Square footage is pretty much the same? Steve Just: Actually Mr. Hovanec ia a little bit larger than those. Sale prices were similar. Mayor Chmtel: But you're going with that recommendation to reduce that $44,000.00? Steve Just: Yeah. Apparently he talked to one of other appraisers and he had in h~s mind that his value should be leu the 902 of the sale price or somewhere in there and basically Just relied on the computer system. Zn this case coming up with the %~ level of assessment, he felt that was fair. Don Ashworth: So then why is he still on this list? Mayor Chmiel: He didn't agree with it. Steve Just: He wanted it lower. Xayor Chmiel: He wanted it Lower. That's what It said. Any other discuselon? Okay, Kubttz, Cecil and 3ans. · . Councilman Mason: We slued 57, Hultner. Mayor Chmiel: Oh I did. Yeah, Charles Hultner. Steve Just: This ia basically the same as the one before. Their level of assessment appears to be reasonable and the owner would like it be lower yet but we included it on the list for discussion. It's a 1,000 square foot, two stories. I'm sure the. sale price in 1988 was a fair sale price. You probably don't have the information. Me bought it for $123,900. in August of 1988. Mayor Chmiel: Okay, he bought tt for $123,900.007 Okay. Kubltz. Cecil and 3ans. Saratoga. "" Steve Just: Their value was also established tn 1991 so they're looking at their tax statement. We dLscusud the problem they have with water Ln their basement and basically lowering the entire structure value 102 which amounts to about $9,000.00. They've got a rather large-house.' 1,368 square foot foundation uith kind of a unique 5 level split. And the lo,est basement portion Board of Review Meet£ng - May 11, 1992 is the one they had the water problem which amounts to about 520 square feet of 1,368. Mayor Chmiel: And is that what you took out of that? Steve Just: We Just lowered the entire structure 1OX which basically amounted to $9,000.00. Orlin Schafer: But we did that prior to the assessment. I mean in the original assessment. Mayor Chmiel: Right. Steve Just: Right, so we're just proposing no change. We really don't know what you would lower it if you were to give further consideration because their water problem, we can see that they do have a sump pump that runs all the time and some problems in that fifth level down there. I looked at some of the other sales in the neighborhood and they range from $102,000. to $106,000. in 1989 through 1991. There's 3 of them on Saratoga. They're all smaller than the subject and considering the subject's slze and three season porch, it would be reasonable to think that had they not had a water problem, their sale price 'would be closer to the $109,000. that we originally calculated and then backed off of from there. So I think we readjusted it by that unless you think that. Orlin Schafer: I think one other thing that he didn't bring out that perhaps, because he spoke that night I believe, Mayor Chmlel: Yes, ! remember. Fires in the chimneys and a bunch of other things. Orltn Schafer: Something that we might consider. The Board might instruct one of the people from the city to look at this and see if in fact somebody did go in there and grade down those diversion swales because they're in other locations too in the community and they're there for a reason usually. It was through the engineering on the city's part asking those people to build that to direct that flow of the water. And maybe that's what happened. Maybe they should be reinstalled and that can be done by the property owner. He could do that with $200.00-$300.00 worth of dirt and get his purchase price back real quickly. Councilman Workman: Maybe instruct staff to look at that or... Mayor Chm£el: I think it would be proper because it's basically sometimes it is and lsn't. ['ye had the same situation In the place of mtne where swales were taken out because of construction that was done. And shou[d really have been caught by the city or an official going tn there. But I'm not sure if that l/ability comes back to us. Property owner should catch that as well. Something that would have to be done with that swale and it'd be between the two neighbors more so than anybody else. And if that's where the water's really coming from. That's the other thing. Oon ashworth: I live in that neighborhood and Mr. Kubitz has been in before. He w111 forever believe that the grading out there was not correct but I mean it 10 Board of Review Heeting - Hay ZZ. 1992 does meet the specifications. There was over ground drainage that uae proposed through that area and ! find It difficult to. believe that the drainage adjacent to the property ts the real problem. There are ales a number of springs, in that neighborhood and If they're In the unfortunate position of actually over the top of one, I know the neighbor right across the street ended up literally taking out his whole basement floor. ! don't know what he finally did with It but-It was a rea! problem. ! find It very difficult to believe that any of the 5 story homes In that neighborhood. I mean to the beet of my knowledge, they're $120,000.-$130,000.-$140,000. Now some have vleme over the Western Hills Pond. That type of thing and bigger and maybe add mere value, but at $100,O00.O0. for that neighborhood ts very difficult for me-to believe. Orlin Schafer: I.thlnk perhaps ~t-was an 111 conceived home for that spot. Well conceived home but an ill chosen spot to build it because that'sub-basement really ~s not the norm, You're getting something.well below grade and at that point you'd better have a sump pump. Hayor Chmlel: I fully understand that because,! have a neighbor of mine who lives tn back of me and of course goes down hill and he ~as very upset over a number of years because he continually had water In his basement and indicated that my sump pulp was the one that was causing all the problems. ! don't have a SUlp pump. SO Z finally Invited him Into-the house and Z-sa~d,-be my guest. Look completely through. ! never had any problems after-that. That often times la what happens. Don Ashworth:. We can again look-at that..Haybe even come.up with some suggestions. I know that we did with that other neighbor on how he could get the water out of that lower area without a sump pump. Hayor ChmIel: Okay, any discussion? Councilman Hason: It's nice to have that input Don because It did seem like they were tn kind of a tough spot. -But that's a point well taken about the price of homes In that neighborhood. But It may be the city could take a look. Hayor ChmIel: ...previous comment, Just leave it ae ~$. Councilman Workman: You mean me? Hayor ChmIel: Yeah. Councilman Workman: What was my previous comment? Nayor Chmiel: To have the city take a look at, staff. Councilman Workman: I mean Just the drainage problem. Hayor Chmlel: Being that we know what this Is, It's a little different situation. Okay, let's move on to the next one. Hlles and Haxine Lord. · · Steve Just: I ta[ked to PrLscIl[a Lord who...qulte a long discussion. Talking about the market values on Chr/stmas Lake. They've got a 2,064 square foot primary residence and a 776 square foot guest house on 100 feet of [akeshore on 11 Board of Review Meeting - May 11, 1992 Christmas. We don't have a lot of property on Christmas Lake in Carver County but Hennepin County has Indicated that the sale ranges that they see is $375,000. to $500,000. What 11tile sales information we do have indicates probably well within reason or low on this particular property. Mayor Chmiel: Yeah, the public access is really a deterrent from people buying those properties often times? I know tt would be for me. I think it would upset me to be right next door to that. Oon Ashworth: If I may though Mayor. That is a lift station and is chained off. The only ones, ! mean it's the city that's going in and out of that. The neighborhood has asked, and this goes back many, many years. Asked for a key so that they could take and get their boats out and put them in in the spring and take them out in the fall. Mr. Lord has one of those keys and the neighbor right across from him has one of those keys. [t is not a public access. It is a problem for them because we've signed that roadway. [ mean at one time we started at Peaceful Lane or whatever it is and we had that whole thing signed and then we went 200 feet south, 200 feet north and finally we went all the way down to Pleasant View with the signs. And to the best of my knowledge, the few times that we have people who violate that, meaning park somewhere around Pleasant View and go on down, we have the sheriff's Oepartment go in there and get them out. Mr. Lord has been known over the years to make sure that he takes thee out of there himself. He kind of enjoys doing that. But it is not a public access. Mayor Chmiel: Okay. Per se. Now would you care to finish what you were saying. You had your discussion with Priscilla. Steve Just: She basically was enlightened to the fact that market values on Christmas were that high and ended the discussion saying that I'd bring it to your attention but that she would look into getting a market analysis or some type of an appraisal so they had a better indication of what the property like that on the market was going. I really don't see a value to be hlgh in this case. Mayor Chmiel: It'd be higher than what the estimated market value is now? Is that what you're saying? Steve Just: Yeah. Councilman Workman: I've lived next to public accesses, although this isn't one. I've been down there. I've been through it. I've been through it on the lake in the wtnter. I don't know if the status has changed but it is a real btg pain and it will surely decrease the value. If we're saying it already is decreased somewhat because of that, we can't keep decreasing it every year. But if that isn't already taken in, that is the biggest pain living near a spot where people want into the lake. Orlin Schafer: That's an extremely expensive area. 8are lots are like $300,000. or more. So [ mean if you're looking at little or no building value, you're still in the neighborhood. 12 Board of RevLew MeetLng - May 11, 1992 Steve 3ust: The only lots that we have was $2,000.00 a front foot which was #Lthtn the last year. ! don't kno# how many lots are Left now. A couple.. Three. The Last one was purchased for pretty close to $2,000.00 a front foot whLch Ls about what you see on the Lake HInnetonka also. Mayor Chmiel: Okay, any other discussion on that? Next one-would be Robert C. SchoLer. hnn Wyse: ! went out to that house. I thlnk he's mainly concerned, with the property tax LeveL. His house La a 1,500 square foot nice ranch styled house. Mas 1,190 square feet of basement finished.. I went. through the'house and. verlfLed the measurements of the basement ftnLshed and our asseesment, dLdn't even Include the basement finished at $103,800. I think It's a very reasonable assessment. Low £f anythLng. But he Ls concerned about the tax. Don ashworth: Do you know when thle one was last valued? When we established the $90,000.007 ann Wyse: Thls area was gone through tn 1990 for the 1992 asee~ents. Don ashworth: So you thLnk Lt was Looked at? I ~ouLd have guessed that.this might have gone back to the .. ann Wyse: Oh before that? Yeah, that would have. Don ashworth: Last revtew tn, for many of the properties Ln that area, was In the early to mid BO's. Orltn Schafer: and that area ls kind of earmarked now for asees~ents this year. Oh yeah, for 1992. ann Wyse: He went through In 1990 so. ResLdent: Let me LnterJect a questLon here. LomerLng the value. That w/LL not change, will change the amount paid for 19927 OrLLn Schafer: WLLL not. Resident: gL11 not. That's what I was going... Nayor ChmLeL: any dLscuesIon? any questions? .Okay. Let's move on to Thomas Steward. $129,000.00. Last year their pre~erty taxes tripled. $1,&82.00 to $4,&7&.O~). From $104,0(0).00 to $19~),(1~)0.00. Increased another $18,0(0). to- $208,000.00. : Councilman Workman: It was $104,000.00 Last year? Steve 3ust: It was done Ln 1990 for pay Ln 1991. Scott revLewed thLs Ln 1990 for the 1991 assessment. Pay"1992. ! ~ent'through SectLon 2 and looked at the, whatever sales LnformatIon was avaLLabLe and try£ng to get aLL the properties In Section 2 so that nothing had been left the same value aa 1991. 'The only exceptLon Ls the agrLcuLturaL classified propertLes that we're going to be taking a look at this year. Some of thee have green acres value so they're 13 Board of Review Meeting - May 110 1992 basically getting... It's not really a fair comparison to look at the green acres to compare properties with residential. I'm sure there will be some changes In the agricultural value as well but the green acre value I don't think Is low...taxes are based on. Don Ashworth: So that's what she was referring to here? Steve Just: I talked to her for quite a while about it. She was looktreg at the one that had an awful lot of lakeshore and it's a big house and I'm sure if they were to sell it, it would sell for much more but they're getting green acres deferments on it so that values would be based on a farmland type value rather than a lakeshore. Eventually when they do sell it, they'll have a 3 year payback on taxes. Don Ashworth: But when she refers to the $~04,800.00, that was a prevtous value by a previous owner who had it green acted and then she paid $275,000.00. Steve Just: I don't know if she ever was green acres. Orl[n Schuler: I don't think tt was green acres. I thlnk it was just an old value that hadn't been addressed. Councilman Mason: That's my in-laws old house and that wasn't green acres. It hasn't been green acres for years. Mayor Chmiel: A ~899 farmhouse basically. Councilman Mason: It is 1899. It is not a farmhouse. It is a very nice, large home. Steve Just: 2,000 square feet. Councilman Mason: It's by no means a farmhouse. councilman Workman: 2,000? Steve Just: ~lmost. It's t,900. Councilman Workman: That's not huge though. Gosh, ! 1lye in a manston. Don Ashworth: When you say 2,000, that's Just the one floor? Steve Just: Just the foundation. Part of tt ls two stories so their actual living area would be much greater. Orlin Schafer: Yeah, that's the base footage that we're talking about. If it's two stories, double that. Councilman Hason: There's a master bedroom and two bedrooms upstairs, a huge living room, large family room and three more bedrooms or studtes on the ma[n floor. I mean it's 7 acres of very nlce land. 14 Board of Review Meeting - Hay 11, IH92 Orltn Schafer: I think her thrust on this was that.because she spent some time In our office prior to Board and her thrust on this was an equality of the assessment and not her inability to understand.perhaps but.her choice not to comprehend how green acres plays a part In this #hole thing. And so after several hours with the lady, ~e started reviewing the sales of that property and others and you'll note that tn 1990 they bought It for $27S,000.00 and ue have It on now for $208,000.00 so I mean this is just a feeble attempt to. bring it up without shocking somebody Into cardiac arrest. Don Ashworth: They should have guessed when they paid $275,000.00 though that their taxes would be high. Mayor Chmlel: Okay, any other discussion? 135. Ben and Pat S~eneon. Steve Just: ! talked to both Hr. and Hrs. Swenson for quite a uhl[e on the phone about the value of $137,&00. that we have and verified that on the computer as well as the hand calculatlon~ that Scott.did.back In 1HHO. They were somewhat upset that there wae.a small shed Included on the parcel. We've always measured every building whether It had value or e~nlmal value.or whatever just because of matter of property records. I believe Scott had a $100.00 value on something that probably today we uould not add any value at all..This wouldn't be worth the argument. That was something I think that Irritated them eore than anything and ! don't knou that the total value of $137,&00., they never really Indicated to me that they didn't think their house would sell for that, He was just concerned about that shed. The other sales .In the area that I could find were all $1&0,000. or above. These. particular properties had more lakeshore but I would think the difference.£n Lakeshore would.also be,sade up In the difference of the value. These particular properties'are valued much_higher than the Swenson's. - ..... ... Mayor Chaiel: What happens if they come back In with the realtor's market analysis and It would be lover than uhat's sho~n? .... .. Orltn Schafer: at that point I'd ask thee to approach the County Board If they get it In prior to 3une 22nd. Mayor Chmtel: That was the 27th you said Orltn? Orlin Schafer: 22nd. . Mayor Chmtel: 22nd. Okay. any other d/scussion? ~that would the 'tax be on this one? $137,&00.007 Steve 3ust: He was actually looking at his tax statement this year. Z believe the value was set in 1991 for pay In 1992. I don't knou If he made reference to that in his letter. Mayor Chmie[: $3,184.007 Steve 3ust: Yeah, It's what he's looking at there. Oon Rshworth: This Isn't really a tax meeting. 15 Board of Review Meeting - May 11, 1992 Mayor Chmtel: No, but ! was just asking the question. Don Rshworth: Right. But people like Pat and Ben, first of all they did goof up from the standpoint that they didn't see when that value had changed from literally a year ago so they should have been In a year ago protesting this increase. And yes, with the 32~ increase tn assessment, you could see 100~ or doubling In the tax portion. But the State formulas continue to reduce and assuming that we all watch what the school, county and city levy for this next year. People like Pat and Ben should see a decrease in their property taxes In 1993. I mean without changing the values. And their biggest problem is [akeshore property. I mean It's a nice home. Wel! kept but It's not overly large. What they're really paying for is that lake frontage. Mayor Chmtel: If they come back with a market analysis, that's the place to have it approached wtth the County Board. Okay. Then we have Helen Martmann which is number 50. I did meet with this lady and I did drive out to her place and I looked at it as well and there Is some problems. I think these people too are sort of on a problem that exists with a few people within our community with fixed incomes. Their's ls not a flxed income although he has a disability and that's what they live on. Some of those things concern me. Recently we Just adopted trying to keep our seniors in their homes. Being self sufficient. And here again we come up with something that how do we really do this? You can't do it. The legislature can do it. Steve Just: They do a sizeable refund already fo~ the circuit breakers and obviously their taxes w111 increase quite a bit with the change in value. This w£ll help hopefully quite a bit more than with the circuit breaker relief. That's basically what ! trled to explain to her and although I'd like to see their taxes lower, I couldn't really look at the numbers are differently based on the Information I gathered from Lotus Lake. OrlIn Schafer: Those are the kinds of situations that when It becomes very tough for us to make those decisions of market value. Hayor Chmlel: No, I realize that. Orlin Schafer: You can empathize with the people that are there but you still have to keep the entlre district tn mind so. Mayor Cbmtel: This one here I had a little concern with. I really do and I know it's lake property as well. I don't know, did she get a, have someone come in and review the property? Steve Just: I was there and apparently she had a market analysts from a realtor recently. [ talked to the realtor today before I left the office. He didn't have the time or anything to look at the sales on Lotus Lake but did look at some older properties with less, with quite narrow lots. 50 front feet or so. Hartmann's have 45 on the lake. So he basically backed off of the values that he was saying, 15~ to 20~. I don't know the exact figure but he was backing off from h~s comparables because they were closer to Mtnnetonka. Or they were on Lake Minnetonka. I don't know if that's reasonable or not but I was looking at the actual sale prices that had occurred tn her neighborhood and on the lake for older one story homes. Everything [ collected basically Indicated that you Board of Review Heeting - Nay 11, 1992 could probably get $102,000.00 for the house. ! don't kno~ if that's. Z've got sees exaeples if you're interested. Hayer Chetel: Yeah, I would be. Steve Just: On 669S Horseshoe Curve, which is Just z believe two doors do~n from thee. It was built In 1954. Pretty such the sane age as their's. It's 1,020 square foot house. It's actually a story and a quarter.- They've got 3 bedrooms and the Harteann's have 3 bedrooms. One and a half baths. When the house was purchased in 1988, it ~as in fair condition and they paid, tt was august of 1988. They paid $127,000.00 two doors do~n. 6ranted It's probably a Little blt bigger as far as square footage but talking 3 1/2 years ago at $127,000.00. On Horseshoe Curve, 6640 with no lakeshore, bu/lt In 1961, 1,080 square foot one story. Pretty comparable to .the Harteann's who have 1,008 square feet. But this one has no lakeehore sold for $92,000~00 In ~arch of ~990. and ann was at that house and.pretty nuch verified that it was a pretty basic raeble. It did not have any excessive updating or anything from-the date that it was built In 1961. another one, from there I had to k~nd of go around the lake and look for anything that looked a little older.- · . Hayer Chmlel: What was the other address on Horseshoe Curve that you said? Steve Just: 6640. No lakeshore. 220 Froa~tler court has SO feet of lakeshore so the size of the lake lot Is pretty :comparable. Th~s house-was 1,248 square feet on slab. Seal1 single car attached garage. Sold'-for $97,500.00 back in of 89. The house was in pretty rough .shape~ We revisited that a year ago. The notes that ! read, the appraiser that was out there indicated that they have paid a little too such at t97,500, but not a whole lot. The structure pretty eintea! In that particular case. and then the last one I-found uss on Chanhassen Road. 7S10. 49 feet of lakeshore which Is basically right on TH 101 there. Built in 1963. It,s 1,056 square feet. O~e.story: Fair condition. Just sold in april of ~991 for $139,900.00. L~ke ! said, ! really-couldn't look at the nuebers, at least from the computer and the other tnforeation ! gathered any differently although ~ eepathize with her tax situation. Hayer Cheiel: And they hadn't been re-evaluated for what, 10 years? Steve Just: That's you know one of those situations where the values haven't changed. In fact ! think their value had been reduced In the early.80's so it probably sade It worse than some.of thee. Hayer Chmiel: The on/y thing with this one is. Steve Just: Z addressed the fact-that they've ~ot some concrete prob~ens. The retaining walls is kind of a eess down by the lakeshore. ! knocked off 5X of the earket on the building because It's easier to do a building and it st~ll case in higher than $102,000. on the computer. Zt cane in at $104,000. giving thee pretty such the benefit of the doubt on everyth£ng ! could. Hayer Chmiel: Have we ever been known to freeze any kinds of segments in .- situations as such here? 17 Board of Review Meeting - May [1, 1992 Don Rshworth: Not per se. I mean I know that the Board has acted on individual parcels. [ think maybe from a year ago you sere aware of the...property and felt that you suggested a certain value for that property. I don't think you referred to it as freeze but I think you had knowledge as to that home. Barring some change in State law, making a value simply on the basis that it should be froze at that level would probably end up with the same type of situation as we ran into with an overalt reduction of 1~. There's nothing under State law that basically allows you to do that. In fact it says just the opposite. Basically you can thro~ out anything that you do. So what you do should be based on your specific knowledge of that property. I think in this particular case, does she not qualify pretty extensively for the tax credit things? Steve Just: Yeah, she indicated to me that she's been getting back a fair amount. ! was helping her talk about the cost of the taxes and she pays out about $60.00 a month or something currently. The increase obviously is going to be much higher but assuming that she gets back more from the circuit breaker, hopefully rather than doubling, it ~£ll be somewhat less. [ don't know other than to say what's going to happen next year. You can hypothesis about it a lot but obviously their taxes will go up quite a bit. ['m just hoping as their tax relief and the circuit breaker will help them in this case. Oon ashworth: [ would like to work with her if I could. I know you've met with her. I had met with an elderly gentleman, it was right before the meettng and he wanted me to check over his circuit breaker forms. I said I just don't have, we're in the middle of this meeting. Can you come back and he did. ~nd his taxes, I think he was into like a $2,500.00 area and the. relief there was about $1,300.00 so It took btm back down to about $1,200.00 whlch was about where he had been over a period of years. He was real happy with that so I don't know how her situation is. Mayor Chmtel: Maybe what we could do is have you do that and contact her and discuss that as well and see what you can come up with. Don Ashworth: Until I've really gone through those fores, and that was Just the early part of this past week, I really didn't realize the full things that some of these owners are eligible for. You start getting up into the upper income portion, past $30,000.00 whatever, you start getting some reductions. If you really are on fixed lncome, you can get a pretty good reduction. Hayor Chmiel: I guess I look at this and I still come away with mixed emotions on it. Knowing where they're at and with what they have and I was in the house too. It's nothing exceptional by any stretch of the .imagination. Councilman Mason: Perhaps after the coming State election in November, some of our new legislators will be able to pass some sort of legislation about it. Mayor Chmiel: Yes, we've already discussed that. Councilman Mason: Rnd that's the frustrating thing about sitting on this Board and ! thought your point was very wel! taken. You can do but you're still obligated to make it fit with everything else around there. 18 Board of Review Meeting - Nay 1~, ~92 Steve Just: X've been trying giving the property the benefit of the doubt but really, in this case ethically couldn't Justify-what I actually would adjust if I were to lower it ac I thought I'd leave it up to you. Mayor Chmlel: We appreciate it. Steve Just: ...maybe I didn't account for the concrete enough or whatever. Orlin Schafer: The thing, this is.not a normal situation. I know where Steve's coming from. We have another Jurisdiction where the appraiser that was working w£th this has had an appeal from a property o~ner $ years [na row. And after so many reviews and so much. concentration on .the things Involved with that property, he was no longer objective. And we discussed it long and hard and I said, give me a range between two dollar-figures a~d we'll let the Board pick wherever they want to be between those t~o numbers because tt was really . disturbing the appraiser from the perspective of his objectivity and so'we Just opted to get out of it. That's what the Board-did; They caZcuZated.out their own way and we accepted whatever they did. And It's an ethical th/rig w/th us from our perspective. Mayor Chmiel: Try/ng to be cons/stent' w/th-/t as well. Steve Just: Their home along that lakeshore probably would be the least valuable because the other one that did sell for $127,000.00 in 1988, they've since then they've improved It quite a blt 'and t think that property value Is at least $20,000.00 more than the Hartmann's. But Ith[nk they are a unique hone along that shoreline. Most of the other ones are higher;.. Mayor Chmiel: Basically a cottage before with nothing and they 5ust added on that small piece to it and thatfs' lt. That's what they've got. Steve Just: It's l,O00 square foot walkout ramble. Pretty basic. Mayor Chmiel: Well maybe what we could do with this one La have Oon get In contact with Helen and have some d/ecuseIons aa you mentioned for and if you are [n agreement with that, we can do that. Councilman Workman: Agreed. Mayor Chm/el: Okay, next Item Is Larry 3. Anderson. Number 3. This is where he was making a comparlson~ Ann Wyse= I met with Mr. Anderson and went through h~s property. Talked to him for quite a while and I looked at our records on the other, the two houses that he wae comparing his house to. ~he house r/ght next door really is the most comparable because it's on a similar lot. Similar slzed.~ lot.-' Hayor Chmtel: Which of those 3 Iota la the one? ' Ann Wyse: The one next door Is 40! Cimaaron and It's Lot 14. -It's assessed at $105,900.00. It's 208 square feet smaller. That's basement and main floor so It would aisc have less basement finished. [t has no 3 season porch which the Anderson property has a very n/ce 3 season porch. It has 2 baths versus the 3 8card of Rev~e~ Meeting - May 1[, L992 baths that this subject has. I felt that lowering the Anderson's property to $112,000.00 was a fa[r assessment [evel comparing to these other homes and the other homes in the neighborhood. Mayor Ohm[el= Thank you. Orlin Schafer: ! had a chat with Larry on the phone and he acknowledged Ann's review and the fact that the $7,300.00 reduction was proposed but he still felt that there was a larger amount of depreciation should be awarded to his property and the values should be lower than that. That's a fairly sizeable reduction. Councilman Workman-' Is it reasonable though tn comparison to his neighbors? Orl£n Schafer: Yeah It ks. We ran those numbers through the system computer and then Ann reviewed it and it Is. Councilman Workman: So hLs neighbors are too low? Orlln Schafer: There's that element might be there. Steve Just: The level of assessment Is probably the sase because he's got the larger house and 3 seasons porch. So overal! ! think the level of assessment probably [s fairly equalized. Hopefully. Hayor Chmie[: How many square feet did you say his home was? Ann Wyse: His house is [,584 square feet. It's quite large. [t's got the basement fin/shed. 800 square feet of basement fin/shed. Fireplace downstairs with a family room and a bedroom and a bath down there. Then 3 bedrooms and 2 baths upstairs. When he has replaced the carpet recently. As of 3anuary 2nd It was the original carpeting but that's normal depreciation. Mayor Cheiel: I think what was done w/th the recommendation to reduce it to the $[[2,000.00, w£th [,584 square feet. Z guess [ don't see any additional reductions. Don Ashworth: Hay I ask a question? Mayor Chmiel: Yeah. Don Ashworth: On a 3 season porch ltke that and I think it goes back to your question or your response about viewing the whole property. I'm guessing that's 10-15-20,000 dollars ts the price range I generally have seen. But you must then take some percent of that? I mean do you usual[y put on the full amount? Steve 3us[: The contribution of a 3 season porch might only be half. They might stick a $[0,000.00 porch on. 200 square feet, we add $30.00 a square foot or $25.00 or whatever. Our values are half of what they actually had the building permit or what they actually stuck into lt. But genera[Ir on a 3 season porch, you're not looking at any more than SZO.O0 to $30.00 a square foot. 2O Board of Review Meeting - May Il, 1992 Don Ashworth: Then I think you said like Lot 14 was the most comparable with the bathroom or whatever but the primary d~fference ~ouLd be this 3 season porch so that's maybe where the half comes tn making that $7,000.00 more. Steve Just: along with the size. Mayor Chmtel: Okay. No change 1~ that. Rlrlght. ~nd, the last but not the Least. Charles Wagner. That ~e just rece~ved~soeethtng on that. He has his independent appraisal. They're sho~tng that at $~8,000.00 as opposed to. Steve Just: $102,400.00. Mayor Chmiel: I haven't even found it yet. You said there was Just a comparable d~fference bet#sen those t~o and [t~s pretty close. 98 to 102. as they show it.and...has the appralsa! as such. .. OrlLn Schafer: Not know/ng the comps that he's using tn his appraisaL, ! think we're wlthln shouting distance. You ~rou~dn't have to talk this too loudly to reach it. [ guess there's a couple things that bother ee Just gazLng through the comparable sheet on whatever page that's on. -Page 3 probably. There's a couple of adjustments that should be addressed.and they're not. They ~outd. affect the outcome. ! don't kflow ho~ great but for Instance a sits wlth-a view, he's subtracting from Chaparral Lane $4,000.O0.wben they're sitting on a quarter of an acre and the subject Is sitting on..?/lO of an acre. ! mean there's a problem here. and the one on audubon Road,'he's taking off $4,000.00~--No~ that might be the difference In the quality of the site but on the first cee; the sLze would probably more than make up for the-quality. R t4,000.O0 item w~ll put us back to $102,000.00. :- Mayor Chm[eL: What was the square footage, on this one? .. Orlin Schuler: 1,340 and the coep~ are, the first cosparable ts pretty uniform. 1,344. .Bedroom, bathroom relationship is the same. But the Zast tWOi~'~O~S are quite small. Well not quite small but they-are smaller. 100 feet or more. difference. Oon ashworth: Mr. Mayor, ! find this quite ironic agutn. This.Is not a tax meeting, but the difference in the value that ~e're talking about produces-a tax difference of less than $50.00. He's had to have. spent $100.00 or $200.00 to save $S0.00. I don't understand this so, '- Councilman Workman: Settle the difference at $100,000.007 Mayor Chm~el: Round ~t with some of the things that Orlln picked out of there. Give some, take some. Sounds good to me. Show It as $~00,000.00. Okay. That wiZZ be. the Last one. ! need a eotlon on the f~rst port,on of the p~nk sheet and then the second one. Councilman ~orkman: ~'d like to move approval of everything as ~e had ~t except for the last one at $100,000.00. Mayor Chelel: Well I think if we Just kept these t~o separate. I think If ~e were to adopt the property owners coming to agreement with the County Assessor 21 Board of Review Meeting - Hay il, 1992 aa one eot[on. Councilman Workman: I so move. Councilman Mason: Second. Councilman #orkman moved, Councilman I~ason seconded to approve the following list of property owrmrs coming to agreement with the County Assessor: Ref. Agreed to No. ~ pZN. ~ 1. Adler, Leonard L. 2. Amlck, Robert 4. Anderson, Robert &Eliz 25-2300290 $202,400 25-0010200 25-2300030 $375,800 5. Baker, M£ke 6. Bardal, Curtis & Carol 7. Benz, 8erney 8. Bicek, Ouane L. 9. Bjorlin, Peter J. 10. Blom, Steve 8orns, Jeff [2. Braden, 3ohn R. Jr. [3. 8rill, Terry 14. Brokke, Bernice [5. Buchanan, Stephen C. 16. Buehring, 3ames 25-8810600 $ 99,000 25-3320200 $229,700 25-5350070 $ 98,200 25-3250050 $108,000 25-160[[70 $ 68,300 25-3600010 $135,300 25-8400070 $[39,500 25-3900020 $ 96,900 25-2730320 $[25,800 25-0500200 $ 45,800 25-4200400 $162,600 25-3000200 $172,600 [8. Callaway, Mar[lyn 19. Carlson, Gary 20. Chandler, George/ Carlson,Sharon 21. Carlson, Robert F. 22. Carrtca, Joseph & Andrienne 23. Casey, Roger 24A Chanhassen Bou! 248 Chanhassen Bowl 25. Clasen, Herbert F. 26. Coffee, Charles 27. Colvin, Kyle 25-27000[0 $192,700 25-7700070 $175,500 25-8800160 $114,200 25-5080130 $[28,000 25-6100010 $192,600 25-0i34600 25-1950020 $1,350,000 25-1950021 $137,600 25-0023700 $112,900 25-76[0090 $[40,000 25-0252000 $132,900 28. Oan[el, John T. 29. Beaver, David W. 30. OeSantis, Harry 32. OorwelZer, Albert 33. OuChene, James P. & Susan 34. Ourr, Ken 25-76[0070 25-6170010 $ 25,800 25-6850010 $ 77,800 25-0270200 $ 88,800 25-[620200 $174,600 25-0051100 $201,700 25-0050400 $204,300 35. Epping, Joe & Paula 25-8610030 $I57,600 22 Board of Revieu Heeting - Hay 11, 1992 Ref. No. Name 38. Flaherty, Oennts & Toni 39. Foster, Hark 40. Fuhrmann, Charles 41. FundingsLand, Daniel 42. Galas, Pam/Roberts, Hike 43. GaLe, Oonald 44. Gavert, Richard 47. Hagman, Wayne 48. Hall, Heffrey & Cynthia 49. HALL, Ken 51. Hedtke, 3om! S2. Hendrickson, JLa & Jan 53. Hobbs~ ~alter B. 54. Horn, CLark & Llnda 55. Horstman~ Robert · 58. 3aeieson, Thomas & Dorothy 59. Jeurissen, Georgia 68. Johnson,.RLva 61. Johnson, Oana 62. Johnson, OonaLd H. · . , 63. Keller, Hark & Connie 64. KeLLy, Thomas F. 65. Kottke, Thomas 66. Kraus,-Earla 68. Kuder,.Hartln 69. Kurvers,.Helvin 70. Lang, Kenneth 71. Lantto, Todd H. 72. Llnder, gyck & Loraii 73. Loom, Jane H. 75. Luebke, Gerald & Rosemary 76. HaLoney, Richard & Olane 77. Hanteuffel, Betty 78. Harsh, Thomas L. 79. HcCary, El~ood 80. HcHugh, Timothy & Diane 81.. HcNet11, Shawn & Sandy 82. HeLby, John 83. tlerz, Toe 84. Xetro Lakes H~n~-Storage 85. Heuwtssen, Howard 86. Hldthun, SteYen 25-2380070 25-8520070 25-7610060 25-2000850 25-821O200 25-0t33700 25-0500380 .. 25-0122700 25-2730850 25-7900080 25-7900380 25-7950070 25-2500030 25 -01232.00 25-O8OO320 ! . .:. 25-24O0040 25-3650010 25-8S20t40 25-0050300 .'..'. - 25-1860040 25-4200280 25-3900180 25-1800370 25-6930010 25,...6930020 25-39200,5O · ~, , 25-5,L'50070 25 -389001.1.0 25-3890020 25-11.820340 25-013481.1.0 ; 25-3250010 25-7900.1&0 25-8580130 25-2300040 25 -8400040 25-7550590 25 -84O012O 25-1.4001.30 25-75t-OO.tO 25-820021.0 25-2700250 ~greed to $356 $239,200 $128,700 $ 88,000 $142,400 $ ~8,&O0 $ 62,300 $128,900 $110,300 $ 92,200 $ 88,900 $205,400 $202,800 $115,000 $2i2,200 $201,800 $113,200 $236,300 $115,000 $ .97, SO0 · , $113,800 SilO,400 $102,900 $128,000 $ 22,000 $182,900 $1.28 ~500 $139,000 $: 24,500 $' 91,200 $199,200 .' $145,200 -$-?0,400 $236,500 $2,{8,400 $1.68,000 $103,900 $132,600 $1,150,000 $10!, 900 $215,000 23 ' ' 8oard of Review Heeting - May 11, 1992 Ref. No. Na~e. 87. Miller, Christopher 88. Hingo, RLchard T. 89. Natoli, Florence 90. Newhouse, Toe & Judy 91. Nichole, ~m. & Sherl 92. N/eland, Richard & Har£on 93. Nice[, Richard a Jane 94. Nord, Bruce A. 95. O'Neill, Diane 96. Olson, ~ndrew K. 97. Peka, Hichael 98. Peters, John 99. Peterson, Robert [00. Peterson, Robert 101. Pfeffer, Herbert [02. Powers, Richard 103. Randall, Thomas 5. [04. Richmond, Rhonda & John 105. Robinett, Robert W. [06. Rossing, Hargaret O. 107. Sathre, Robert [08. Schmidt, NLke 109. Schmidt, Roger 110. Schmieg, OonaLd [1[. Scholer, Robert 113. Schott, aendal 114. Schrempp, Teresa & Oanie! 115. Schroeder, Larry 116. Schroeder, Rlbert [17. Schueren, Gladys 118. Schuette, Richard 119. $chuaacher, John 120. Schwartz, Michael 121. Scott, Judith 122. Segner, 3ohn [23. Shorba, George & Margaret 124. Shorba, George P. 125. Sa[th, OonaLd T. 126. Spltethoff, Id~. & Margar~e [27. Spohr, C~lfford & O~rcee 128. Stedman, Oen~s [30. Stockdale, Oared 131. Sulerud, James 25-4040130 25-0[23000 25-0021900 25-2730590 25-2080130 25-0135300 25-3320240 25-6300090 25-6070200 25-4060600 25-2020450 2S-0S00160 25-1800O50 25-02408L0 25-5050350 25-8400100 25-4200430 25-2730660 25-8810250 25-[602060 25-1602070 25-1602080 25-7660030 25-6850040 25-0150800 25-0500221 25-8230020 25-4[L0070 25-1620160 25-0500020 25-2080120 25-0122500 25-2630200 25-52000[0 25-2?00080 25-5050[70 25-8400110 25-0133600 25-0500400 25-[820280 25-2380030 25-88/0350 25-8800050 25-0140900 25-1220020 Rgreed to $166,100 $L00,900 $ 85,600 $112,600 $119,600 $[35,600 $537,400 $128~800 $148,000 $137,[00 $ 75,000 $ 6,000 $101,100 $141,900 $131,300 $201,800 $124,100 $119,000 $ 8,000 $ 7,000 $ 7,000 $100,000 $119,000 $ 10,000 $ 24,800 $151,300 $161,000 $111,200 $107,600 $ &9,700 $116,300 $ 29,700 $238,000 $ 84,400 $118,&00 $ 14,800 $ 95,000 $121,S00 $361,500 $[0L,700 $114,~00 $159,300 $125,800 24 Board of Review Heetlng - Hay 11, 1992 Ref. Np~ Nam~ Agreed to 132. Sullivan, Roee 133. Swanson, Bruce & Tauna 134. $~edberg, Elnar L36. ThLelges, Robert & Tere~e 137. Thtee& Tall,/ Heritage Park Apts. 138. Thles & Tel/e/ Hedical Arts Blvd. 135. Trltz, Kevln & S. 25-0600190 $104,900 25-2550040 $112,300 25-18OO33O $109,500 : . 25-8210150 $t20,500 25-31504)10 $2,050.0(0) 25-0121900 $1,450,000 25-8060150 $ 65,000 141. Wildermuth, 31m 142. Wink, l, Conrad 143. Wraee, Henry 25-2304)120 $173,800 25-~10(00 $117,300 25-01602(X) $164,900 144. Zakarlasen, Louis & GLadye 145. Zamjahn., Louise et.al. 25-0080700 $ 95,000 25-035~T000 $. 2,~0O ifil vot(~l in favor and the motion carrY. Hayor Ch, ici: The second Is the property o~ners that have not come to agreement with the Assessor and request 8oard con, id,ration. ALL except for the-Last, Charles Wagner from $102,000. to $100,000 with ackfItIonal discussion with Helen Hartaann to make so~e difference but that will be determ£ned by lion, Councilman Workman: So moved. Councilman Haeon: He so moved and I'll ~econd it. Councilman Worlman moved, Council"on tlason seconded to approve the following list of prol~erty o~ners who have not come to agreement with the C~unty ~ and requesting Board ~deration ,lth direction to the City Hanager to. contact Helen Hart&ann regarding information on tax relief available and ad~usting the amount for Charles Wagner as shmm below: Ref. i~greed to No. Name PZN Y..qtJ,U.I~ 17. Butch, t, Don 25-0250700 $ 84,700 31. OingeL, James & Janet 25-12200/0 $[13,100 36. Fink, Steve 37. Finley, Robert & Oebra 25-0030500 $123,100 25-/220O30 $108,700 45. 6oetze, Donald 46. GorrILL, Oeb/Oegner, Terr7 25-01240(X) $123,100 25-2730570 $110,500 56. Hovanec, 3effrey 3. 57. Hultner, Charles 25-2540020 $232,000 25-6150190 $114,600 25 Board of Review Heet£ng - Hay 11, 1992 Ref. No. Name 67. Kubltz, Cectl& Jane 25-7600070 Agreed to v_aJ. ue _ $100,700 74. Lord, H/Les & HaxLne 25-26001L0 $293,500 112. Scholer, Robert & C. L29. Steward, Thomas & C. 135. Swenson, Ben & Pat 25-8210170 $103,800 25-0022800 $208,800 25-0240300 $137,600 SO. Hartmann, HeLen 3. Rnderson, Larry 3. [40. Wagner, CharLes 25-&300230 $102,500 25-8810220 $112,000 25-0270300 $100,0(0) voted Ln favor and the motion carried. Councilman Naeon moved, Councilman IJorkman seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried. The moetLng ~as adjourned at 8:30 p.m.. Submitted by Don Rshworth CLty Hanager Prepared by Nann Opheim 26