5 Kurvers Point Speed Limit Discussion
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
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PO Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Todd Gerhardt, City Manager
FROM:
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Paul Oehme, Director of Public Works/City Engineer \
DATE:
October 22,2007
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SUBJ:
Discussion of Kurvers Point Speed Limit - PW070C
DISCUSSION
Several property owners in the Kurvers Point neighborhood have requested the
City lower the speed limit in their neighborhood to 20 mph. Kurvers Point is a
cul-de-sac street with 32 homes accessing the street west of Willow View Cove.
A long, sweeping bend on a down grade is present at the entrance to the
neighborhood after Willow View Cove. The property owners are concerned
about a speeder in the neighborhood and potential pedestrian/vehicle conflicts.
The neighborhood does not have a sidewalk.
Currently, the street is the required 30 mph speed limit per Minnesota State Statue
169.14. Staff discussed with the neighborhood representatives the Project Lead
Foot program. Also, staff set out the speed trailer for two days and took traffic
counts with the Engineering department's traffic counters to obtain traffic
statistics. The traffic information gathered indicatedthat 85% of the traffic is
traveling 23 mph or less. One vehicle was recorded going between 31-35 mph by
the traffic counters. The average daily trips for the neighborhood were 260
vehicles which is what would be expected for this type of neighborhood. Based
on this information, staff is not recommending the speed limit be lowered to 20
mph. Staff has put up a curve advisory sign at the. first curve into the
neighborhood with 20 mph advisory speed signs. Staff also discussed removal of
the 30 mph sign at the entrance of the neighborhood with Sergeant Peter
Anderley. Based on enforcement action that can be done in the neighborhood, he
did not object to removal of the 30 mph sign. The street will still havea speed
limit of 30 mph with or without the speed limit sign. The speed limit sign has
been removed.
No action is necessary by the Council unless the decision is made to lower the
speed limit.
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PATROL DIVISION
CHANHASSEN STATION
Memo
To: Paul Oehme
Sergeant Peter Anderley ~
From:
Date: 10/03/2007
Re: Kurvers Point Rd
In reference to the speed limit evaluation on Kurvers Point Rd. The current speed of
30m ph was asked to be evaluated by the citizens that live in the neighborhood. After
placing the speed trailer and monitoring traffic, it was determined the average speed
on Kurvers Point Rd is much slower then the posted 30mph already. While the
speed trailer was out, it captured 2 vehicles between 25-29mph and no vehicles over
30m ph in 8 hours of monitoring. It appears the traffic is traveling at a reasonable
speed for a residential neighborhood. Speed enforcement action is virtually non
existent and difficult do to the slow speeds indicated for the posted 30mph zone.
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SPEED
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What are the Legal Speed Limits?
:t MN Statute 169.14
Speed laws are created for the protection of
~ . ~ bthe pu?lic and the curbing of unreasonable
_ ehavlOr. To effectively enforce a law the
public must believe that the law is '
reasonable. Minnesota's speed regulations are based on the
same Basic Speed Law that is used in all 50 states: "No
perso,n shall drive a vehicle on a highway at a speed greater
than IS reasonable and prudent under the conditions".
Statutory limits are based on the concept that uniform
cate~ories of highways can operate safely at certain preset
~a~ll?um speeds under ideal conditions. Whether the speed
lImit IS posted or unposted, drivers are required to reduce
speed below these values for poor weather conditions curves
or hills and potential hazards such as pedestrians. D:ivers
must also reduce speed when approaching or passing
emergency vehicles with emergency lights flashing.
These are the most common statutory speeds:
.J 10 mph in alleys
.J 30 mph on streets in urban districts
.J 70 mph on rural interstate highways
.J 65 mph on urban interstate highways
.J 65 mph on expressways
.J 55 mph on other roads
Whenever these statutory speed limits are not the correct
value for a specific highway, the commissioner of
transpo.rta.tion authorizes the posting of other regulatory
speed lImits.
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Interstates are high design multi-lane divided highways
that have controlled access interchanges such as cloverleafs
or diamond shaped interchanges. Through traffic on the
Interstate never has to stop or yield. Examples: 1-94 or 1-35
Expressways are multi-lane divided highways but they
have e~tnes and Inter~ectlons, sometimes controlled by
traffic signals. Some Interchanges may exist but they are
not the rule. Examples: Highway /0 or Highway 52
How Does MnlDOT
Determine the Regulatory Speed Limit?
1.'h~ commissioner of transportation sets regulatory speed
lImIts on state and local roads based on a thorough
engineering and traffic investigation.
These factors are considered:
.J road type and condition
.J location and type of access points (intersections,
entrances, etc.)
.J sufficient length of roadway (1/4 mile minimum)
.J existing traffic control devices (signs, signals, etc.)
.J crash history
.J traffic volume
.J sight distances (curve, hill, etc.)
.J test drive results
.J speed study
The most important part of the traffic investigation is the
speed study. When choosing a speed, drivers take many
roadway environment factors into consideration. Therefore,
the speed that the majority of people consider prudent is an
important value. Data is collected by performing radar
checks at selected locations on the roadway under ideal
driving conditions. A technical analysis is done on the results
to determine the 85th percentile. This is the value indicating
the speed at which most (85%) drivers are traveling under.
Experience has shown that a posted speed limit near this
value is the maximum safe and reasonable speed. Studies
have shown that traveling much faster or slower than this
value can increase your chance of being in a crash.
Engineering judgement is an important tool. The traffic
investigator must use knowledge of nationally accepted
principles combined with experience to assign the safe speed.
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What are the Types of Speed Limits?
REGULATORY SPEED LIMIT SIGN
SPEED
LIMIT
50
This black and white sign shows the maximum speed
that a motorist may travel under ideal conditions. It
can be a statutory value or else it must be authorized
by the commissioner of transportation.
ADVISORY SPEED SIGN
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This black and yellow speed sign is used to advise
motorists of a comfortable speed to navigate certain
situations. It is used with a warning sign. For
instance, when traveling on a winding road, the curve
waming sign would be used with an advisory speed
sign. This sign may be posted by the local road
authority on local roads.
SPEED LIMITS IN SCHOOL ZONES
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SPEED
LIMIT
20
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Local authorities may establish school speed limits on
local streets, within a school zone, upon the basis of
an engineering and traffic investigation as prescribed
by the commissioner of transportation. This
regulatory speed limit is in effect whenever children
are present, such as before and after school or during
recess. The school plate is black and yellow and the
other signs are black and white. Optional flourescent
yellow green may be used for the school plate.
SPEED LIMITS IN WORK ZONES
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SPEED
LIMIT
40
SPEED
LIMIT
50
Advisory speed limits are used to identify safe speeds
for specific conditions within a work zone. These
black and orange signs are always used with warning
signs. The local road authority can post these plates in
work zones on local roads.
Work zone speed limits are short term regulatory
speed limits that are established for worker safety due
to traffic in adjacent lanes. These speed limits range
from 20 mph to 40 mph on two lane-two way roads
and up to 55 mph on divided highways. They can be
posted by the local road authority in active work zones
on local roads. The FINES DOUBLE plate is black
and orange and the speed limit sign is black and white.
Temporary speed limits in construction zones are
sometimes needed for long term construction projects
or detour routes. These regulatory black and white
signs are used when a reduced speed is needed for
driver safety. Valid 24 hours a day, 7 days a week,
these must be authorized by the commissioner of
transportation for any roadway.
See the website: www.dot.state.mn.us/speed
_..!~r more information on "Work Zone Speed Guidelines"
, Questions & Answers
Will lowering the speed limit reduce speeds?
NO. Studies show that there is little change in the speed pattem
after the posting of a speed limit. The driver is much more
influenced by the roadway conditions.
Will lowering the speed limit reduce crash frequency?
NO. Although lowering the speed limit is often seen as a
cure-all in preventing crashes, this is not the case. Crashes are
most often the result of driver inattention and driver error.
However, if a posted speed limit is unrealistically low, it creates a
greater speed variance (i.e. some drivers follow the speed limit
while most drive the reasonable speed). This speed variance can
contribute to crashes,
Why do we even have speed limits?
A uniform speed of vehicles in a traffic flow results in the
safest operation. The posted speed limits can keep the traffic
flowing smoothly provided the majority of drivers find the
speed limits reasonable. To best do this, the limits must be
consistent throughout the state. The speed limits also give the
motorist an idea of a reasonable speed to drive in an unfamiliar
location. The speed limits are used by police officials to
identify excessive speeds and curb unreasonable behavior.
Who Do I Contact?
If you believe that there is a safety concern or an inappropriate
speed limit posted, the person to contact depends on the type of
road.
TRUNK HIGHWAYS
For regulatory and advisory speed limits on the trunk highway
system, you may contact the district traffic engineer at your
Mn/DOT district office.
The trunk highway system includes:
CJ Interstate Highways,
o U.S. Highways and
D Minnesota State Highways
LOCAL STREETS AND HIGHWAYS
For these roadways, you may contact your local road authority
(county, city, or township). For advisory speed limits: The
local road authority can determine these advisory speeds and
post the plates without authorization from the commissioner of
transportation. For regulatory speed limits: The local road
authority can pass a resolution requesting an investigation by
Mn/DOT. Based upon the results, Mn/DOT may then
authorize the local road authority to post new speed limits.
The phone numbers to call for state or local assistance can be
found in the phone book under government listings. If you are
unable to find the proper phone number, you may call the
Mn/DOT Information Center at the following numbers:
1-800-657-3774 Greater Minnesota or
651-296-3000 Twin Cities Metro Area
8 ...J DOUBLE FINES will be imposed for violating any regulatory speed limits in work zones or
... ... Sa rety in school zones, Fines are also double for failing to reduce speed when passing by a stopped
~ · emergency vehicle with its lights flashing.
Notes ...J When an EMERGENCY VEHICLE is approaching you, move to the closest shoulder
without crossing the path of the approaching emergency vehicle. You may proceed when the
emergency vehicle passes you. If you are approaching a stopped emergency vehicle with its lights flashing, immediately reduce
speed and, if it's safe to do so, move over in your lane away from the stopped emergency vehicle. Drivers should actually change
lanes if there are two or more lanes in the same direction and there are no vehicles in their path.