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1986 02 10 I I I REGULAR CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING February 10, 1986 Mayor Hamilton called the meeting to order. The meeting was opened with the Pledge to the Flag. Members Present Councilman Horn, Councilwoman Watson, and Councilwoman Swenson Members Absent Councilman Geving Staff Present Don Ashworth, Barbara Dacy and Bill Monk APPROVAL QI AGENDA: Councilwoman Watson moved to approve the agenda as presented with the addition of discussion on the DNR Christmas Lake Boat Access. Motion was seconded by Councilman Horn. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. CONSENT AGENDA: Councilwoman Watson moved to approve the following consent agenda items pursuant to the City Manager's recommendation: 1. a. Approve Final Plat of Fox Hollow Third Addition. b. Final Reading of Ordinance 24-E, Increasing Animal Impound Fee s . c. Authorize Signing of Lake Ann Ball Field Lighting Grant Agreement. Motion was seconded by Councilman Horn. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. AWARD OF BIDS --- FOURTH QI JULY Don Ashworth: the timing, we it to the Park FIREWORKS BIDS: This item did not go to the Park and Recreation Commission, but given thought it was important to get it to the Council. We wanted to bring and Recreation Commission meeting, but they could not obtain a quorum. Councilman Horn moved to approve the bid of $3,000.00 from Banner Fireworks Display for the 4th of July Celebration. Motion was seconded by Councilwoman Swenson. Mayor Hamilton: I thought Vitale's finale looked pretty spectacular on paper more so than the others. Don Ashworth: Lori's recommendation is that all three firms have received good recommendations in other cities. If the Council believes another display might be be t t e r . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Mayor Hamilton: Bannner wasn't as good last year as they were the year before. Council Meeting, February 10, 1986 -2- Councilman Horn: It said they would make sure that we got as good of a display as we had the year before. Don Ashworth: Lori stated verbally to them that she was not as happy with the display as past years and that their selection should be equal or better than it was the year before. I The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. MINUTES: Councilwoman Swenson moved to approve the City Council minutes dated January 13, 1986 as presented with the noted correction. Motion was seconded by Councilwoman Watson. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. ESTABLISH 1986 LIQUOR LICENSE FEES: Councilwoman Swenson: When we have a case like the Chanhassen Bowl, does one license take care of all of the banquent rooms, etc. Is that all figured into their square footage. Don Ashworth: It goes by the total square footage in the same way that it does for the dinner theatre. Councilwoman Swenson: Including the banquet rooms? Don Ashworth: Yes. RESOLUTION #86-7: the liquor license Mayor Hamilton. Councilman Horn moved the adoption of a resolution establishing the fees at the same level as 1985 fees. Resolution was seconded by I Councilwoman Swenson: As a follow up to this, I would like to see the actual fees that are paid by each establishment. Don Ashworth: You will have that with the materials for the individual liquor licenses that will come up roughly in one month. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. ACCEPT FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR FOX FOLLOW 4TH ADDITION: Bill Monk: The total cost was estimated at $56,110.00. There was a five lot breakdown to $11,222.00 per lot, which is very reasonable in terms of what we have seen as far as lot development goes. I have heard no objections from the petitioner. Councilwoman Watson: I was very pleased that our engineering department produced this report. I think it is very understandable and it is a very good feasibility study report. RESOLUTION #86-8: Councilwoman Watson moved the adoption of a resolution accepting the feasibility study for the Hulett Addition, Fox Hollow 4th Addition as presented. I Resolution was seconded by Councilman Horn. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. I I I Council Meeting, February 10, 1986 -3- REQUEST FOR PRIVATE LEASE, OLD VILLAGE HALL, MARION SCHMITZ: Don Ashworth: Ms. Schmitz called asking if she should be here. I did send her a copy of the report that went to the City Council. I felt that the Council should have an opportunity to discuss the merits of policing that property, not necessarily to her, but to anyone and not feel under a pressure if that particular applicant was in the audience. Mayor Hamilton: My only concern with this is, if we go ahead and lease this space, I think there should be something in the lease so we are not obligated to relocate her if the downtown redevelopment goes forward and we end up moving that building within the next six months. I want to make it very clear that we are not responsible for relo- cating her anywhere and then back into that building once it is moved. Councilwoman Swenson: What type of lease is this? Don Ashworth: I would propose a one-year period of time. Councilwoman Swenson: This is what bothers me. I think this is a mistake to rent this out to a private party. Mr. Kirt said something about wanting to move it and it is not costing that much. If there is any problem with it, we are going to run into expensive repairs on the thing. I just think we are making a mistake. It is not costing us that much to keep it. It is a City facility, it is an old village hall. My problem has been that it has never been refurbished. I know there are supposedly funds available to renovate it through the Historical Buildings Congress, or whatever the name is, and I hesitated on that because of the fact that we have been vacillating about whether or not we were going to move it. I am opposed to this. I think there are other places that could be rented. Councilman Horn: I guess I would go along with some of the points that Mr. Ashworth made and that is when you have buildings that are sitting vacant, they seem to get run down more than if you had somebody in there that is a responsible caretaker. That is the only reason I would entertain this. Mayor Hamilton: With that lease can we say that we are not going to do any improve- ments, whether it is heat, electric, etc. Don Ashworth: I can restate that no lease hold impovements will be made. Right now there is a question as to whether the stool is cracked or not. But I don't see that as a major expense. When some of the younger kid groups were in there, they shut all the heat off and it froze. Councilwoman Swenson: What kind of a bookstore is this, is it a used bookstore? Don Ashworth: Primarily paperback books that you would return. one in Chaska and she would like to move it. They currently have Councilwoman Swenson: I just keep thinking about the church before its recent renter and how much money we put into that. Don Ashworth: The City did receive a refurbishing grant on this building. recall the exact amount. I believe it was about $15,000. I don't Councilwoman Swenson: What happened to it. Don Ashworth: It was used to refurbish that. They were just finishing it up at the time that I started. There were some people on a committee to get local donations for the state matching share. They did suspend that amount of money on that building. Council Meeting, January 27, 1986 -4- Councilwoman Swenson: I have a letter in my file from the Historical Society that sta- tes that it is eligible. It has been since that time. It is eligible for funds. Don Ashworth: Whether or not it would be eligible for secondary funding, I don't know. Councilwoman Swenson: I should try and find that letter because that is what I have been holding this up on, because for the last six or seven years we have been talking whether we were going to change the street alignment there and whether it was going to be moved on the other side of the street. There didn't seem to be any point in applying or requesting for funds to renovate it. I think it is a shame to leave that building where it is, in a backyard of a saloon. Don Ashworth: Would you prefer a series of six-month leases. You have to have some time in there for the operator to put their racks up. She assures me that she will not do any type of structural changes to the building. She has moveable shelving that will not connect to any of the walls. Councilwoman Watson: Is there any liability to the City at all? Don Ashworth: I don't see any. Councilwoman Watson: something. I am thinking of somebody falling down the stairs and breaking Councilwoman Swenson: Sure there is. I think you would still have to have backup insurance just as if you were a renter of any other property. She says she pays the electricity bills. Although the building is insulated, the utility bills have been staggering, she is going to pick those up in addition to the $100.00 a month? Don Ashworth: be modest. As well as sewer, water, insurance and taxes. I am sure the taxes will Mayor Hamilton moved to authorize staff to enter into a one year lease agreement for the old Village Hall with Marian E. Schmitz with the following conditions: 1. The renter shall be required to pay the taxes, sewer/water, electrical, insurance and $lOO/month lease payment; 2. Also, that the renter is required to submit the actual costs prior to consideration of renewal. Motion was seconded by Councilwoman Watson. Councilman Horn: You want it on a yearly basis rather than a six-month basis as Don has suggested? Mayor Hamilton: I think a year lease would be fine. Councilwoman Swenson: Will we have an out clause then if the building is moved? Don Ashworth: Yes. Councilwoman Swenson: What if we have already agreed that the move from Gary Kirt would be an accessible possibility. Now if we have rented this out, what if he has other ideas for it? I I I I I I Council Meeting, February 10, 1986 -5- Mayor Hamilton: That has to come to us first. Councilwoman Swenson: He asked if this would be a feasibility and if the City would consider it, and we said yes. Mayor Hamilton: Then we will consider it. But Ms. Schmitz knows that it will be in the contract that if the building is moved that we will not be responsible for any relocation costs. Councilman Horn: And may terminate the lease. Councilwoman Swenson: Okay, that is what I was trying to get at. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. MTC OPT-OUT UPDATE: ~ Review and Approve Implementation Planninq Costs (Phase !l ~ Review Joint Powers Aqreement Mayor Hamilton: The committee met last week and we had a good meeting and a good discussion. The bottom line was a couple of things. Everybody is still interested in doing the project and they want to move ahead with it and if we were to move ahead, we had to decide that evening if we were going to continue with the same con- sulting firm and how it was going to be paid for. Barb Dacy: As far as the implementation planning costs, BRW has proposed a two phase plan of $15,000 each. The reason why it was broken down into two phases was to come below the bidding threashold so we wouldn't have to go through another consultant search process. We had a lot of discussion and the group researched whether or not RTB and/or some type of other program monies were available to pay for the implemen- tation planning costs since the communities are desiring to opt-out of the system and save money in the first place. However, due to some of the intricacies of the legislation, etc. that is not possible, at least at this point. At least for the first phase, it looks like the communities will, if they do want to continue to opt- out with the program that everyone agreed to do, that it would be a $5,000 expense to each community. We may be able to be reimbursed for the second phase when the contract is signed. That is when RTB will consider to refund the second phase of the implementation study. However, that is not guaranteed either. I think what the com- mittee is also going to do is to try and work on the change in state law as far as the opt-out program is concerned because our project has really pointed up some of the things that need to be changed. However, in the meantime, in order for this thing to get off the ground, that does mean an additional expenditure. So the total cost to Chanhassen may be $10,000. Mayor Hamilton: Shakopee was present also. They have already opted-out and the system that they have going they are very happy with. Their ridership level has been higher than what they have anticipated and there are some Chanhassen people using their service already. Everybody agreed, and they agreed also, that we want them to be a part of this whole process so that you can tie the systems together, and they want to do that. However, since they have already opted-out and have already spent funds on their own system, they would not be putting and money up to continue, but they would remain on the board and duscuss the process. There were some changes made in the report and we agreed with those and everybody felt comfortable that it was still economically viable to do it, even though with Shakopee out the numbers have changed. It still works out, numbers wise, to go ahead with the program. Council Meeting, February 27, 1986 -6- Councilwoman Swenson: The only question that I would have is that I am not quite sure exactly what we are winding up with. Is there one particular graph to show us what exactly we are going to wind up with? Barb Dacy: The service plan is on page 47, figure 14. This is a basic route system that Phase I will improve on. They will talk about the number of buses times the stops and do the detail planning. But this is the overall service plan for the tran- sit in the area. Mayor Hamilton: There was some question on this particular map that some of the roads that appeared to be indicated on there may not be 5-ton roads and that is some- thing that would definitely be investigated in the next phase to make sure that the routes are on the proper roads, etc. Councilwoman Swenson: I guess the only thing that I am disappointed about is that I thought we were going to have some kind of a question as to whether or not it was going to be feasible to get up to the north end of the city and I don't see that on here. Barb Dacy: The proposed plan here are the major routes to generate interest and ridership. If this exceeds, then there is always opportunity to expand. I think what the consultants were saying was as far as the north loop through Chanhassen, there just was not a demand for that at this time. However, that can be linked into the system at a future date. Councilwoman Swenson: From a purely selfish veiw point as far as Chanhassen is con- cerned, we are considering this downtown redevelopment, I would like to be able to get the people from the north end of our City back down here. It seems to me with this method we are just alienating them even more and dividing the community even more than it already is. That doesn't mean that I am opposed to the project. I am just terribly disappointed to see that this couldn't be coordinated in here. Barb Dacy: They did make reference to it in the beginning part of the report. have the consultants address that route more fully. I can Councilman Horn: It would have been handy to have been able to take the senior citi- zens from this area to Excelsior. Councilwoman Swenson: Plus the fact that we do have people who come to work from there. We do have people coming down from the Excelsior area to work in this area and we aren't accomodating them. Don Ashworth: Monies have not been budgeted for this project. the item back to have you modify the 1986 budget. I will need to bring Mayor Hamilton: Do you have a problem with that? Don Ashworth: No. I I REVIEW JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT: Barb Dacy: As you can tell from the City Attorney's letter, he has several questions I in regards to the overall Powers Agreement. Each community's attorney is going to be reviewing it. So we will have three separate attorney opinions on this. Basically, Roger's feeling is that it should be a little more in detail as far as the liability and financial capabilities are concerned. I think maybe what we wanted to talk about this evening was the proposed structure. There would be a swat southwest I I I Council Meeting, February 10, 1986 -7- Area Transit Commission Board composed of a representative from each community and an elected official to the Accountability Board for the transit service and then the Advisory Board would be the staff, a second tier to that structure and would preform any ongoing day-to-day activities and would administer the contract, etc. Mayor Hamilton: We reviewed this draft just briefly at the meeting and agreed that each representative would take it back and have their city attorney review it and bring it to the Council and so on. Most of all we wanted to make sure that, legally, it was a good document. Councilwoman Swenson: What is the next step? Mayor Hamilton: We just joint powers agreement. favorable to everybody. need concept approval to do this so that we can redraft the I thought that this was something that we would use and be Mayor Hamilton moved to approve Implementation Planning Cost (Phase I) of $5,000.00. Motion was seconded by Councilwoman Swenson. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. Councilwoman Swenson moved to approve the Implementation Planning and Joint Powers Agreement subject to resolution of the City Attorney's letter dated February 6, 1986, concerning his questions to the Joint Powers Agreement. Motion was seconded by Councilman Horn. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. AUTHORIZE VARIOUS FUND CLOSINGS/TRANSFERS lQ CLOSE 1985 FINANCIAL RECORDS: Councilwoman Swenson: In regards to the north service area, as I recall there is still a lot of land up there that hasn't been developed. What's going to happen to those funds when and if that land is broken up now and the assessments will come to the table? Don Ashworth: As additional assessments are created in the north service area, a good example would be the Plocher/Geske one, those monies are going into that debt service fund and would reduce the future funding that would be necessary by the City. If you recall the auditors had calculated that the City would be required to put $150,000 per year over a 6-year period of time. We continue to monitor that amount to determine whether or not it can be reduced from those levels. That is totally attributable to under assessments back in the 1972/1973 time frame or turning around the other way. They had estimated that they would get much more development than they actually did. So, yes there will be some additional development, but I don't think it will ever get to that stage that they orginially thought. Councilwoman Swenson: I receipts from this fund. be deposited? agree. But I assume that there are going to be more When the fund is closed, to what fund will those receipts Don Ashworth: We established a separate fund to receipt and disburse monies as a part of that whole reassessment process. That fund, 560, was called north service area reassessment project and did not have anything to do with the debt service fund that pays off the yearly bond payments. Councilwoman Swenson: Where does it go? Council Meeting, February 10, 1986 -8- ~ Ashworth: There is an actual debt service fund that takes care of those payments directly. When we did the reassessments, all of the monies for that reassessment I were pledged over to that service fund. What I wanted the attorney to tell us is that we could take a portion of those dollars and payoff these costs that we rein- curred in this reassessment process. We never could get a clean opinion from the LeFevere firm to be able to do that and so the monies that we spent for that reassessment, being engineering and attorney fees, just sat out there and was accumu- lating interest to the point where it really became a question of how we would ever get rid of it. Councilwoman Swenson: I still don't know where the money is going to go when you collect it in the future, if this fund is closed. Don Ashworth: area. It will go directly into the debt service fund for the north service Councilwoman Swenson: Which is different than the NSA? Bill Monk: I think the best way to determine that is the construction account, not the debt service account. RESOLUTION #86-9: Mayor Hamilton moved to approve the proposed transfers/fund clo- sings as presented. Resolution was seconded by Councilwoman Watson. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. AUTHORIZE EMERGENCY REPAIRS !Q WELL #2: Councilman Horn: What is the latest status, is it getting worse? I Bill Monk: It has got me a little bit stumped and it is an intermittent type of thing and once of while it will cycle through clean with no vibration. If anything, that has got me more concerned than if it was vibrating all the time on a consistent basis. I still think that at any time a failure could occur. It should have been looked at before and my memo alludes to that. I have got to get onto a better main- tenance schedule as far as the wells and towers are concerned. They are major items and we don't get around to them as frequently as we should. Councilwoman Swenson: I have no objection to giving the authority on this, but I do have an objection to having just one estimate. I think we can have this one you men- tioned here and I would like at least one other quotation on this before you have it done. Bill Monk: What I will probably do is talk to two or three just to get a general idea of how they would approach it and how they would price out some of the items that I know need to be done. I would then proceed on that one, which I would see as the lowest and more competative. Any contract that we would enter into would spell out various prices for different work items and different hourly rates. That is basically what I would move on. It's not like we are giving up all rate structure, but it won't be done by competitive bids, but I will be approaching at least two, if not three. Councilwoman Swenson moved to declare the repairs to Well No. 2 a state of emergency I and bypass the bidding process and authorized staff to contract for the necessary repairs to the pumping and transport systems of Well No.2. Motion was seconded by Mayor Hamilton. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. I I I Council Meeting, February 10, 1986 -9- ~ DATA PROCESSING PURCHASES: Councilwoman Swenson: On page two were is states, I would propose establishing that work station at the front counter allowing for minute transcription in a format com- patible with all of our previous work while simultaneously being able to develop base files associated with our plumbing/building/licensing, etc...... I believe at the time that I moved for the full time additional help, one of the conditions was this would allow the Council to have verbatim minutes of all committee meetings and I don't want to deviate from that. Don Ashworth: We are not proposing to. Councilwoman Swenson: I guess what threw me was "compatible with our previous work," and we haven't had verbatim prior to this time and I wanted to make sure that we didn't loose track of the fact that we wanted this verbatim report. Don Ashworth: What I was referring to is compatible in how the machine stores and retrieves information so that many minutes that have been taken to date could be reviewed. Mayor Hamilton moved to approve the 1986 data processing purchases as presented in the City Manager's memo dated February 10, 1986. Motion was seconded by Councilman Horn. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, and Councilman Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. DNR ~ CHRISTMAS lAKE BOAT ACCESS: Councilwoman Watson: I am very disturbed about the way the DNR handled the public access on Christmas lake. They sat in this room discussing lotus lake, which took a number of years to finish the process. The City of Chanhassen certainly put a lot of time and money into that. I don't think the DNR exerted themselves excessively on behalf of the City to acquire the access on lotus lake. They sat here and told us that there was no such thing as a special consideration. If there were 200 hp motors on the lake, that you must be allowed to bring a 200 hp motor onto that lake and various other things were brought up at the time, but we were told there is no such thing as a special case. The DNR does things one way and everybody does it the same way~ I guess that works unless you have the Governor and the Christmas lake Homeowners Association working on the project, because it didn't work here. They did get special consideration. They have a horse power restriction, which I think the people of lotus lake would have appreciated tremendously and I don't think it would have hurt our access. I think it would have been just as good of an access and we could have made use of the same provision, except someone sat right in here and told us that we couldn't have that and it wasn't done. I don't really appreciate this. Today I was reading the Sailor and under DNR Dismisses Condemnation Proceedings, Agrees to Christmas lake Access Site: in the last paragraph; "terms of the agreement also limit the motor size of boats launched to 25 hp for a period of seven years. lake residents and the City of Shorewood will study possible surface use restrictions that will apply to all boaters after the seven year period." As I recall, part of that lake is in Chanhassen and I never hear any mention of the City of Chanhassen being brought into play in any of these decisions. We were asked to the first couple of meetings and then since that time we have been ignored. I know that the Christmas lake Homeowners Association includes a lot of wealthy influential people. They knew where to go to get what they wanted and they got exactly what they wanted. I didn't want to believe that dealing with the DNR was reduced to that level, but it is. The very least I want the DNR to know is that the City of Chanhassen sees what they are do- ing and knows what they do. I think that the City of Shorewood should know, as well as the Christmas lake Homeowners Association, that there will be no surface use age ord- inance on that lake without the City of Chanhassen and they simply can't do it without us. I do want the DNR to know that we realize that there are special considerations Council Meeting, February 10, 1986 -10- and that we will be looking for some of those special considerations the next time we have need of them because it can be done. I really feel that the DNR laid one on us, and I feel that we've been had. I don't know what to do about it after the fact, but I think the Lotus Lake Homeowners Association deserved every consideration that was given to the Christmas Lake Homeowners Association. I Councilwoman Swenson: I agree with your indignation. Didn't we get some correspon- dence on this Christmas Lake thing? Councilwoman Watson: Dale attended a couple of meetings on behalf of the Council. That was fine as far as it went, but this last paragraph in this article today, I think the City of Shorewood has to be notified and the Christmas Lake Homeowners Association has to be notified that this lake is partially in the City of Chanhassen and there will be nothing done without our consideration. Mayor Hamilton: Where is the access? Councilwoman Watson: The access is in Shorewood, it is off of Merry Lane, which is a little road that comes right off the service road along Highway 7. I am not saying that it is not a perfectly acceptable access or anything like that. I am just saying that we were told so plainly that there is no such thing as a special consideration, but there is. Councilwoman Swenson: What would be the proper follow-up on this? Mayor Hamilton: I think we can write DNR a letter and also Shorewood and the Christmas Lake Homeowners Association and let them know our thoughts. Don Ashworth: There should be a motion to that affect to whether or not you want me I to do it, or whether you would like it to go out under the Council's signature or what. Councilman Horn: I would think the letter would be different to the different agency. Don Ashworth: Right, no question. There would be three different letters. Councilwoman Swenson: It is Carol's subject, she should maybe................ Councilwoman Watson: I guess I am not concerned with that. If Don wants to handle it, he has always done an excellent job of getting these letters out in the past. I simply want all these people and agencies, etc. to know that we do see what is going on here and we have noticed and we will not forget was has occurred. They can expect that we will expect to be given considerations that we feel are proper when the time comes. Councilwoman Swenson: them to have this," is on our Lotus Lake. Is Instead of approaching it from a negative - "we don't want there anyway that we can be retroactive and have some relief it worth a try? Councilman Horn: Then we would have to open up Minnewashta and the whole thing. I Councilwoman Watson: I suppose we could approach them about a horse power restric- tion point of view. I guess I wasn't even looking for going back and trying to change and undo what has already been done, but more that should we need to deal with them in the future that we are aware of the fact that there are special con- I I I Council Meeting, February 10, 1986 -11- siderations and regardless of what we have been told, in fact there are special con- siderations. If we feel we are in need of a special consideration we won't hesitate to make it plain that we expect to be given that consideration because it can be done. Councilman Horn: I don't even think that we should appeal that way. The way we should appeal is to their sense of consistency and that is to reverse the decision that they made on Christmas lake. It wouldn't bother me so much if we hadn't just gone through those actions on both Minnewashta and lotus lake and we told all of our people that this is a DNR stance and they told us that to, and it makes us look ridi- culous to our people to have them turn around immediately after we have just gone through those two issues. Mayor Hamilton: Personally, I think to send a letter to the DNR and mention the process we went through and we asked them for a horse power restriction and it wasn't given and it seems now that they have done it and we expect the same for lotus lake and Minnewashta. Councilwoman Watson: response from the DNR. However we pin this thing to the DNR, I want it to require a They can at least explain to us. Councilman Horn: I would like to know what is different about that situation from our situation. Councilman Horn moved to adjourn the meeting. Motion was seconded by Councilwoman Swenson. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilwomen Watson and Swenson, Councilmen Horn and Geving. No negative votes. Motion carried. Don Ashworth City Manager Prepared 8y: Kathy Sundquist