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MEMORANDUM
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
Todd Gerhardt, City Manager
Bob Generous, Senior Planner
December 9, 2002
SUB J:
Northcott Inn & Suites, Site Plan #2002-9
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
The proposed development consists of a three-story, 70,873 square foot building
containing approximately 14,300 square feet of street level retail and commercial
uses, the hotel lobby, meeting areas, breakfast room and pool with hotel rooms on
the second and third floors (total of 76 rooms) and meeting and conference facilities.
The commercial component will be a restaurant and multi-tenant lease space. The
primary parking for the project is located underground and in the interior of the
lot. Some on-street parking is also available along Lake Drive, Main Street and
Pond Promenade, which are all private streets. Within Villages on the Ponds,
there are cross access and cross parking agreements that permit a portion of the
parking to be located off site. Parking requirements in excess of those specifically
provided on site are through shared parking. -
The applicant is also requesting variances to permit wall signage above 20 feet on
the building tower and the north and west ends of the building and to permit the
use of Exterior Insulting Finishing System (EIFS) for more than 15 percent of the
building exterior.
Staff and the Planning Commission recommend approval of the site plan, but
denial of the variance request for the use of 26 percent Exterior Insulting
Finishing System (EIFS) and denial of the Signage in the tower and above 20 feet
in height on the west and north ends of the building. Staff differs from the
Planning Commission regarding proposed condition 43. Staff believes a sidewalk
along the western side of the property would be redundant since a sidewalk
currently exists on the west side of the street. However, we want to verify that the
sidewalk on the plans does extend from Lake Drive to the parking lot. We have
not incorporated the Planning Commission recommendation for the sidewalk in
the City Council motion. If the City Council would like to add the condition, the
language is included in the Planning Commission update.
A variance to permit signage in excess of 20 feet in height and 16.1 percent E1FS
was approved for the Chanhassen Bank building on October 14, 2002. Additionally,
both the Bokoo Bike buildi-ng and the Bell Mortgage building within the
development use EIFS as a building material in excess of 15 percent, 56 percent and
33 percent, respectively. It should be noted that both of these buildings were
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Northcott Inn & Suites
December 9, 2002
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approved and constructed prior to the city adopting the design standards for commercial, industrial
and office institutional developments on September 24, 2001.
RECOlVlMENDATION
City Council action includes three motions'
A. "The City Council approves Site Plan #2002-9, plans prepared by Truman Howell Architects
& Associates, Inc., dated October 18, 2002, for a 70,873 square foot, three-story building
consisting of street level commercial and upper level hotel rooms subject to the following
conditions:
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The applicant shall enter into a site plan agre. ement with the City and provide the necessary
security to guarantee erosion control, site restoration and landscaping.
Site plan approval is contingent on final platting of Outlot A, Villages on the Ponds 2nd
Addition, to a block and lot designation.
3. Lighting shall comply with the Villages on the Ponds design standards and city code.
4. Signage shall comply with the Villages on the pOnds Design Standards and city code.
5. The exterior building lighting shall be revised to shine downward, only.
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10.
The overhead doors at both the garage entrance and trash storage shall be painted a similar
color to the surrounding material.
Each of the windows located below the shake dormers on the second and third floors shall be
replaced with six-panel windows on both the Lake Drive and Main Street building elevations
for the second and third level.
Additional differentiation shall be provided around the windows in the flat-roofed sections of
the building on all three sides on both ends of the building. This could be done though the
use of window accents, such as plant boxes, shutters, balconies, decks, grates, canopies,
awnings, recesses, embrasures, arches, lunettes, and different types of windows, such as bay,
multi-paned, angular, square, rectangular, half-round, round, Italianate.
The developer shall be required to install the streetscape in compliance with the streetscape
plan approved for Villages on the ponds.
The applicant shall revise all plan sheets to incorporate the landscape islands within the
parking lot a minimum of 10 feet wide and the evergreens shall be outside the site triangle in
the northwest comer of the parking lot.
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Northcott Inn & Suites
December 9, 2002
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11. The building must be protected with automatic fire sprinkler systems.
12. The building plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the State
of Minnesota.
13.
The building must be constructed in accordance with the Minnesota State Building Code.
Note: The International Building Code will probably be adopted by the State at the time the
building is constructed.
14. An accessible route must be provided to the building, parking facilities, public transportation
stops and all common use facilities.
15. Seven accessible parking spaces must be provided on the site.
16. Accessible guestrooms must be provided in accordance with Minnesota State Building Code
Chapter 1341.
17. The building owner and or their representatives should meet with the Inspections Division to
discuss plan review and permit procedures. In particular, type of construction and allowable
area issues need to be reviewed and discussed.
18. A 10-foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e., street lamps, trees,
shrubs, bushes, Qwest, Xcel Energy, cable TV and transformer boxes. This is to ensure that
fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to
Chanhassen City Ordinance #9-1.
19. All radius tums shall be designed to accommodate the turning of Chanhassen Fire
Department's largest apparatus. Submit radius tums and dimensions to the Chanhassen City
Engineer and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for review and approval. Pursuant to 1997 Uniform
Fire Code Section 902.2.2.3.
20. Additional fire hydrants will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact
location.
21. A PIV (Post Indicator Valve) will be required on the fire water line coming into the building.
Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location.
22. "No parking Fire Lane" signs will be required as well as curbing to be painted yellow.
Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing to be painted
yellow. Pursuant to 1997 Uniform Fire Code Section 904.1.
23. The builder must comply with water service installation policy for commercial and industrial
buildings. Pursuant to Inspection Division Water Service Installation Policy #34-1993.
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Northcott Inn & Suites
December 9, 2002
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24. The builder must comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division
regarding maximum allowable size of a domestic water line on a combination water sprinkler
supply line. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy #36-
1994.
25. The builder must comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division
regarding premise identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Division Policy #29-1992.
26. With referencing proposed restaurant, the builder must comply with the Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Division policy referencing cooking equipment exhaust hood
requirements. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy #35-
1994.
27. A private easement will be required for the storm sewer which runs off site to the west.
28. A cross-access agreement between parcels must be recorded.
29. Submit sto~rn sewer design calculations for a 10-year, 24-hour storm event with drainage
flow map.
30. Add the cu;n'ent version of the City of Chanhassen Detail Plate Nos. 3101, 3102, 3104, 3107,
3108, 5203, 5300, 5301 and 5302.
31. The applicant is responsible to obtain and comply with all regularity agency permits,
including but not limited to Watershed District, MPCA, etc.
32. Retaining walls over 4-feet in height must be designed by a registered engineer and requires
an approved fence at the top of the wall.
33. All plan sheets must be signed by a registered engineer.
34. Add a minimum 75-foot long rock construction entrance and revise the note from 50 feet to
75 feet.
35. Add a storm sewer schedule to the plans.
36. Type 2 silt fence shall be used around the grading area. Also, existing catch basins around
the site perimeter must be protected from construction-related sediment through the use of
filter bm~-iers (see City Detail Plate No. 5302).
37. Revise the legends to match the plan drawings.
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December 9, 2002
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38. On the site plan, revise the dimension of the north access entrance width to 26 feet.
39. Any off-site grading will require easements from the appropriate property owners.
40. On the grading plan:
· Show all existing and proposed easements.
· Add abenchmark.
· Differentiate between existing and proposed storm sewer lines.
· Show Type II silt fence around the perimeter of the grading area and Type 1II adjacent to
the pond.
· Show construction rock entrance minimum of 75 feet.
· Show the building basement elevation and how it will drain.
· CBMH #101 must be with sump.
· Show the existing and proposed storm sewer flow direction.
· Show the proposed storm sewer class.
· Show all existing pipe information including pipe type, slope, class and size.
· Designate which parking stalls are meant to be handicap accessible.
41. On the utility plan:
· Differentiate between existing and proposed utility lines.
· Add note "Any connection to existing structures must be core drilled"..
· Show all existing and proposed utilities sewer type, class, size, length, flow direction,
slope.
· The existing water and sanitary stubs off of Lake Drive are shown incorrectly. Verify
locations with as-builts.
· Show the location of existing gate valves on the water service lines.
42. The applicant shall include a design pavement section.
43.
The applicant shall install a sidewalk running north/south on the western edge of the
property from Lake Drive to the parking lot.
44.
To be consistent with Building C, the applicant shall incorporate enhanced pavers with the
sidewalk on Main Street and Lake Drive.
B. "The City Council denies the variance for the use of more than 15 percent EIFS on the
building based on the findings in the staff report.
C. "The City Council denies the variance for signage in excess of 20 feet in height on the
building based on the findings in the staff report.
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Northcott Inn & Suites
December 9, 2002
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PLANNING COMMISSION UPDATE
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on November 19, 2002, to review the proposed
development. The Planning Commission voted seven four and none against a motion to approve
the site plan subject to the conditions of the staff report,
With the removal of the following condition, which was added back in to site plan approval
recommendation as a separate motion approved six for and one against:
4. Signage shall comply with the Villages on the Ponds Design Standards and city code.
With the revisions to the following conditions (shown in bold):
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Each of the windows located below the shake do,Triers on the second and third floors shall be
replaced with six-panel windows on both the Lake Drive and Main Street building elevations
for the second and third level.
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Additional differentiation shall be provided around the windows in the flat roofed sections of
the building on all three sides on both ends of the building. This could be done through
the use of window accents, such as plant boxes, shutters, balconies, decks, grates, canopies,
awnings, recesses, embrasures, arches, lunettes, and different types of windows such as bay,
multi-paned, angular, square, rectangular, half-round, round, Italianate.
10.
The applicant shall revise all 'plan sheets to incorporate the landscape islands within the
parking lot a minimum of 10 feet wide and evergreens °utside the sight triangle.
And the addition of the following conditions:
42. The applicant shall include a design pavement sectiOn.
43.
The applicant shall install a sidewalk running north/south on the western edge of the
property.
44.
To be consistent with Building C, the applicant shall include incorporate enhanced
pavers with the sidewalk on Main Street.
B. The Planning Commission voted four for and three against a motion to deny the variance for the
use of more than 15 percent EIFS based on the findings in the staff report.
-C. The Planning Commission voted six for and one against a motion to deny the variance for
signage in excess of 20 feet in height on the building based on the findings in the staff report.
Staff is concerned that the requirement for the sidewalk on the western edge of the site (condition
43) is redundant. There currently exists a sidewalk on the west side of the street in front of Bokoo
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December 9, 2002
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Bikes, which would accommodate most pedestrians in this area. The other sidewalks should
adequately provide pedestrian access through and around the site in locations that are convenient to
site users. We recommend that a sidewalk connect Lake Drive to the parking lot, which is partially
shown on the plans. Staff believes that condition 44 partially reiterates condition 9, but forwards the
condition for approval with the addition of Lake Drive. Additional streetscape enhancements
include benches and planting areas around the benches.
ATTACHMENTS
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Planning Commission Minutes of November 19, 2002
Planning Commission Staff Report
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Planning Commission Meeting- November 19, 2002
Sacchet moved, Feik seconded that the Planning Commission recommends the City Council
approve a Conditional Use Permit for the LED display within a monument ground low
prof'fle sign. All voted in favor, except Lillehaug who abstained, and the motion carried
with a vote of 6-0-1.
Blackowiak: Motion carries and I'll just say for the record that Commissioner Lillehaug
abstained on both of those votes due to his membership in the American Legion. This item will
go to the City Council on?
A1-Jaff: December 9~h.
Blackowiak: Wow, that's way out there. I thought maybe we, 2003. Wow. December 9a~.
Aanenson: 2002. That's the wrong.
Blackowiak: It is December, okay. It's not, oh it's not February?
Aanenson: No.
Blackowiak: So it's December 9th, 2002. Okay. Because I looked at that and thought wow,
that's okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay I've been requested that we take a 5
minute recess so we'll take a quick 5 minute recess and we' 11 be right back.
PUBLIC HEARING:
CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A THREE-STORY~ 70~873
SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL BUILDING CONSISTING OF A 76 UNIT H OTEL~ A
RESTAURANT AND MULTI-TENANT RETAIL SPACE WITH VARIANCES FOR
SIGNAGE AND BUILDING MATERIALS ON 2.7 ACRES OF PROPERTY ZONED
PUD~ BRUCE BISSONNETTE~ NORTHCOTT INN AND SUITES.
Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item.
Btackowiak: Thank you. Commissioners, any questions of staff?
Feik: I've got a couple. In the staff report you mentioned that two properties within the Villages
exceed the EPS requirement. One is Bokoo, or Bokoo, and one is Bell Mortgage. What are
those percentages?
Generous: The Bokoo Bikes is approximately 60 percent.
Feik: 6-0?
Generous: Yes. It's a predominant material on that building, and Bell Mortgage I believe it was
18 percent.
Feik: So just slightly.
Generous: Yes. And then we had the bank building which was approved previously had 16.1
percent EPS.
Planning Commission Meeting- November 19, 2002
Feik: The other question I'd like to speak with you about is, as it relates to the rooftop units
screening. They are currently being screened by the parapet. Essentially no additional screening
is being added, is that correct?
Generous: That's correct.
Feik: My question is more of a code definition, interpretation for you at this point. Had this been
a one story building you would probably have required additional screening.
Generous: Higher screening, yes because the visual angles would have been.
Feik: But the visual angles are measured, is that a standard measurement from where you
measure the visual angles or is that more arbitrary? I guess my point is, if you step back from this
building not all too far, those roof top units might be visible.
Generous: Correct.
Feik: So my question is, is it a standard as far as where that visual element is measured from?
Or is it a more loose interpretation than that?
Generous: It' s more interpretative. The ordinance says from public views.
Feik: But public could be necessarily the Presbyterian Homes across the street could be public
use.
Generous: Yes. Above grade.
Feik: Right.
Generous: And what I had them do is show an elevation with the sight line, someone in Lake
Drive and Main Street to see what they would see if they were standing there. Yeah, I could have
pushed them out farther. Part of the, this project is, you're going to have these tall buildings
around it. Unless you complete change it, you'll always see that your three stories are above you
because you'd be looking down on this.
Feik: But many municipalities require screening irrespective of how high the building is.
Aanenson: That's correct, and I think we' ve taken a little bit different tact on that. For example '
if you look at the National Weather Service, which is sitting below the grade of Audubon, and
sometimes in trying to screening it you're actually drawing more attention to it. I think in the
past what we've tried to do, similar to what we've done on, even on Chapel Hill, we tried to have
the roof top equipment sometimes even match the color of the building. The same thing was
done on St. Hubert's church where you have large pieces of equipment and there's homes behind
there that we actually tried to blend the colors, because sometimes putting a fence around it, that
ends up being a maintenance problem. Actually draws away from the architecture. It ends up
being a snow catch and that sort of thing so we tried to move from that. That is, was in the past a
standard that a lot of communities use and we found that it doesn't always work and we're trying
to do some other techniques. It's a good question.
Feik: Thank you.
Planning Cormnission Meeting -November 19, 2002
Lillehaug: I have a couple questions for staff. One would be, if you have the overall plan that
you could show up there. It was a smaller sketch with, you show, there's parking right inbetween
Bokoo Bikes, right across the street to the east there that's shown on that plan I think.
Generous: Yes.
Lillehaug: That's not reflected on the plan that's in front of us tonight though.
Generous: Yeah, this was the concept plan previously. What they've done is shorten, actually
shorten up this building so that the ramp down into the underground parking would work. We
need, they can't exceed 10 percent on that and so they provided parking in that area that used to
be building.
Lillehaug: Okay, so shared parking, I assume that this would be a portion of it. I mean there's
several stalls that are considered shared parking.
Generous: Yes. Well the four, this is one that we'd probably share with the Bokoo Bikes but
we're looking more towards the north. They'd pick up additional parking, and on Lake Street and
Main Street. Lake Drive and Main Street.
Lillehaug: Okay. And then there's a cross access, it'd be condition number 28. There's a cross
access agreement between parcels. Is there also a cross parking agreement or is that?
Generous: Yes. Under the overall PUD, that was a requirement that they establish that.
Lillehaug: So the cross parking agreement is in place?
Generous: Yes. And we'll reiterate that when they plat this. Or final plat this I should say.
Because right now it's in an outlot status and so it needs to be final platted before they can go
forward with the building permit.
Lillehaug: Okay. And then a quick detailed comment, and this would be directed possibly
towards engineering. A portion of the grading in the parking lot, if you look at the grade, the
water's going to flow out into the, I guess it's not a public street but out into the street. Would
this be something that we'd want to address and revise the elevations in their parking? And it'd
be in the east side of the parking lot. It appears that a portion of that parking lot is going to drain
into the street. I realize it's a private street but I think we should probably maintain the same
standards and I think that the City would concur on that that wouldn't be typical.
Sweidan: Mainly most of the grading like it's happening from inside the limit of the lot towards
inside that most of it. Now if it is coming from the street, there are catch basins along the street
itself like from the north side of it, out along into the car park.
Lillehaug: And I'm talking specifically on the east side of the parking lot. Or the west side, I'm
sorry. And the west side, it appears that it drains onto the street. Just, I guess take a look at it and
work with the applicant and ensure that's what we want to see there. And that would be will I
guess.
Sweidan: Okay, yeah we'd look at it.
Blackowiak: Craig, any questions?
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Claybaugh: Yeah, Bob. On your revised recommendations on page 15, your condition 15 called
for 7 accessible parking spaces be provided. I was just looking through here. I believe they're
showing 4. Them accomplishing those 7, do you feel that it could potentially have any adverse
affect on your overall ability to achieve those 241 spaces or is that...
Generous: No, because they can. The shared parking opportunities are very fluid in this and
they're providing 92 percent of the required parking on site. It's just located and basically the
code requires it be close to an entrance and so we may look at something spreading out more.
Claybaugh: Sometimes we should almost come in more than what's required is all I was asking
about. That's all I have.
Blackowiak: Okay. Questions LuAnn?
Sidney: Yes, on page 9. I hate to bring this up again but on the project numbers for the various
square footages. I guess I'm confused because I'm looking at the Northcott Inn and Suites and
yet we have two floors of hotel space, and one of retail but yet these numbers are equivalent.
Slagle: LuAnn, can you speak in your mic?
Sidney: Oh I'm sorry.
Slagle: We're getting gestures from the crowd.
Sidney: Oh, okay. What gestures? Are they good gestures?
Blackowiak: Fair question.
Sidney: Okay, sorry about that. I know that's something that people mention, I don't speak up
enough. If you look at the columns for commercial and office service, I guess just over, you
know when I look at it we have approximately the same square footage, but still we are talking
about two floors of hotel space so is that, are these calculations correct?
Generous: Part of the calculations, the hotel room space we were counting as more service or
allocating to service. If this doesn't work, what would be re-use of this and office space.
Sidney: Then you should so the same with the Americlnn. You know I guess it doesn't jive.
Generous: Except for that's the, when we did it back then, that's just how they allocated it. It
could, we could split it up again. They'd have more square footages but we counted it all against
the commercial. That was the first real commercial building that went in there. We didn't have
this refined then.
Sidney: Yeah, I guess it just doesn't seem consistent in this case so if you could look at that
because it just isn't.
Generous: Sure we could split it up more proportionately.
Sidney: Yeah, because it doesn't make sense. Yeah.
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Blackowiak: Okay, any other questions?
Sidney: No.
Blackowiak: Uli, any questions2
Sacchet: Yes, I have a couple of questions. Some more trivial than others. On the site plan, and
I don't know whether you can answer that. If not, the applicant probably will. On the site plan it
has on the west side there in this parking lot, this additional parking lot Rich is talking about, has
this box that says trans. What is that7
Generous: Transformer.
Sacchet: Transformer, as in electrical transformer? Alfight. That answers that one. There is a
letter in there by Mika Milo and he takes issues with some of the colors. Could you point out
which are what Mika Milo calls not a pleasant one. A greenish yellow as well as a too dark and
brown green stone.
Generous: It doesn't, it's the computer enhanced colors that he got that makes, well. If you look
at, it makes that look greenish yellow.
Sacchet: Yeah, I can see how he calls that unpleasant. And what was the response to.
Generous: He was talking about this one.
Sacchet: Okay. So it's really not that green.
Generous: No it's not.
Sacchet: And the two dark brown green stone?
Generous: That's the bottom elevation which would be the block. The oak.. It didn't reproduce
well on the computers and then copied and so.
Sacchet: Okay. So this is a reproduction problem then?
Generous: That's one of the reasons we, yes.
Sacchet: Alright, that's a good answer. On the elevation you were pointing out the three window -
groupings located below the shaker, the shake dormers. Are we talking about the second or third
floor, and all these windows or exactly which ones are we saying should be replaced by 6 panel
windows? Could you be specific about that please?
Generous: Yes. It would be the three panel windows on the second and third floor. In this area.
There's two locations on the.
Sacchet: On the other side is a similar thing.
Generous: Yeah, Lake Street elevation is, or Lake Drive there's another one of these elements.
Sacchet: So we're talking all these windows but only second and third.
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Generous: Well the first floor already has 6 panel windows.
Sacchet: Well it doesn't show.
Generous: ...that pattern, the upper level's at a smaller scale.
Sacchet: Oh it has, yeah I see. There's a line through them because they're taller. Okay, I didn't
catch that. So that's them. And then when you say you have windows in the flat roof section
with more accents, are we talking all three sides of the two twice?
Generous: Yes.
Sacchet: Okay. The end as well as, all three sides...
Generous: That they look at, and they don't all, we're not saying that they all have to be the same
and you know it could be something subtle.
Sacchet: Some variety, yes.
Generous: Yes, just so that you have a different architectural feel on each of those elements of
the building.
Sacchet: Okay. And then you talk about benches on Lake Drive and two on Main Street, two on
Lake Drive. Where would those fit in, do we know? I know this is kind of nit picking but I'm
curious.
Generous: The original streetscape called them, for them down on this end. And some place on
this end of the building.
Sacchet: So at this point it's not really, they're not placed in no specific place.
Generous: No.
Sacchet: That's something that would have to still be working on, okay.
Generous: ...and also they're going to have a feature out at the comer that would have benches
on it too. With landscaping in the middle.
Sacchet: Then on page 8 of the staff report, I'm talking about the landscaping. There's this short
paragraph. Staff recommends that all landscaping islands and peninsulas be a minimum of 10
feet wide and then also that's evergreens be located outside of sight triangle. I don't see a
condition, and you say recommend. Is that really what it is, is a recommendation? It's not
something we want to make a condition out of?
Generous: No, it should be in the conditions.
Sacchet: Was it hiding? Maybe it's in there and I didn't see it. So it should actually be a
condition.
Generous: Yes it should have been in there.
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Sacchet: I may have overlooked it but I didn't see it.
Blackowiak: You'll have to go and double check that one.
Sacchet: Then the same thing, there is in utilities it says Minnegasco is requiring that a private
utility easement be created. That I'm sure I doubled checked. There's no condition in there.
Generous: Right. That we'll cover as part of the final platting of this project.
Sacchet: So that's alright that there is no condition for that one.
Generous: Correct...as more our subdivision condition.
Sacchet: Okay. And then I've got one for the applicant. Now the EIFS, here all the EIFS,
goodness gracious EIFS. You said 6-0 for Bokoo Bikes.
Generous: Pardon me?
Sacchet: You said 60, 6-0 for Bokoo Bikes.
Generous: Yes.
Aanenson: Just to clear of that. Again that was before the revised design standards.
Sacchet: Oh, that was done before we did the design standards, because that was exactly my
question.
Aanenson: Just to be fair to the developer, they did raise that issue that the designs had changed
and right.
Sacchet: So that was done before we had the rule, alright. That's my questions, thank you.
Slagle: I just have a couple. Bob...that parking area that would be on the southwest comer.
Directly across from Bokoo Bikes. Do we foresee any problems with people coming out of
there? With people backing up from Bokoo?
Generous: Not really. I talked with the owner of Bokoo Bikes and he anticipates that would be
for his employee parking, and so they wouldn't be moving in and out most of the day. It's fixed
times.
Slagle: And so, I mean is that, I mean that cormnent, would that be okay with these owners of
this building that they're adjacent lot would be filled with employees of the building across the
street?
Generous: Well it's part of the overall subdivision...
Slagle: Okay. Fair enough. I want to commend Bob, you and the applicant on the pedestrian
ramps. Walking through this parking lot, the question is, is there's been consideration of another
one to the west because you've got a fair amount of parking area to the west and I'm just
wondering if you park, you're one of those business travelers like we maybe all have been and
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you get to the hotel at 11:00 at night and it's snowing and you park the second parking spot to the
northwest. Basically you're going to be cutting across a lot of cars to get to the door, so I'm just
wondering, is there enough parking spaces to make another pedestrian ramp going north/south.
Generous: Dedicated, it'd be difficult to do.
Slagle: Just throwing it out for consideration. And then lastly, or actually two more. We do not
have a sidewalk going down the west hand side of this property that I can tell.
Generous: It's across the street.
Slagle: Okay, but. Talking about sidewalks, pedestrian friendly environment. Is there a reason
we can't run a sidewalk that runs the north side of the block, take it down through that, what I'll
call the grassy area? You know again, going down. I mean because I understand. I mean believe
me but you know, we' ve got discussion about neighborhoods. Some streets have one sidewalk on
one side and you wonder why it wasn't on the other side, and if it's a minimal cost perhaps, it's
something to raise. You know. I mean if there was ever a pedestrian area that we have in our
city, then this would be it. I would almost hope that there's overkill on sidewalks. And are we
interested in the applicant's answer, and hopefully it's not just cost. Okay? Last thing is on
lights. And I'm just throwing out the question. I'm looking for lights and I see two or three
going down Main Street. I'I1 count the one that's down in the southeast comer. I don't see any
on the north side of the hotel. Or restaurant I guess that would be right there. And then I'm
trying to figure out where the lights are in the parking area. At least based upon this legend,
looking for light poles. Again I'm just trying to think of a dark, you know safety issue.
Generous: Yeah, the existing Main Street and Lake Drive lights are in place. Those were done
with the overall development. They're providing a lighting in the parking lot.
Slagle: Are those black things.
Claybaugh: Those are the shoebox fixtures.
Slagle: Okay, those are the lights? Okay. I'm sorry. Then I was reading the legend. Alright, so
that would be fine. And then my only question would be, do you think there's any need for a
light on the north comer of the property? And I'm talking sort of where that 5 foot concrete
sidewalk, just to the right of that towards the east. And I just throw that out. Because you've got
one down at the southeast comer and.
Aanenson: How about if we look at what lighting's on the building for downcast lighting because
there is retail on that and what's across the street, but we'll clarify that. Just to make sure it's
appropriate.
Slagle: That's it.
Blackowiak: Thank you. I just have actually one question. All my other ones were answered,
but I'd like to hear from engineering standpoint. I too would like to see a sidewalk on that west
end. I think that you're dumping out, you've got these concrete sidewalks that dump out, they go
east/west and they just dump out on the street and I really feel that we need to have something on
what would be the east side of that street so from an engineering standpoint, can it be done?
Sweidan: I guess so, yes we can.
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Blackowiak: Okay, that's the answer I wanted. Alright.
Aanenson: Just to clarify, the staff when we looked at this with the applicant too is, we looked at
where would the most likely destination be if you're in this hotel and we looked at the restaurant
and that's why it kind of got centered towards the middle. That'd probably be the most frequent
path would be probably in this, if you're in this area towards Houlihan's. Or you could be going
back to the east but, you may go to the American Inn, but you could still cut through middle of
that building. That's I guess what we looked at then, and try to keep that edge streetscape. Just
for clarification.
Blackowiak: Thank you. Okay. One more question? Sure.
Claybaugh: Yeah, was there any photometrics done?
Aanenson: That's why I think we need to get clarification on it.
Claybaugh: Okay. Usually we see them and that's why I was just asking.
Slagle: What was that question?
Claybaugh: Photometrics to piggy back on what you were talking about there.
Blackowiak: Akight. Now's the time for the applicant or their designee.
Truman Howell: My name is T~vman Howell with Truman Howell Architects. We're the
architects of the project, and we would say that we would agree that the mustard is not our
preferred color. The real colors are in fact here. And they would be consistent throughout the
building. And therefore we're quite comfortable in showing those as opposed to computer work.
However, computers do help us a great deal. Basically one of the comments I would make about
the landscaping, or I should say the hardscaping around the buildings, is that a lot of that, and
I'm not trying to absolve us of responsibility but a lot of that was predetermined when we came to
the scene and therefore some of the things in terms of the lighting, in terms of the benches and
those kinds of things have been somewhat predetermined. We certainly will give our input as to
suggestions, that kind of thing. However we, you know engineers, architects don't go and tell
engineers what to do, you understand so these guys were already here so we will make our
comments and our opinions Lnown. The other thing, I believe there was a question in terms of
visibility of the equipment on the rooftop. Would that be of help if we tried to answer that
briefly? We were told that this would in fact be a consideration. Does that show? They said it
does show.
Blackowiak: I think that's in our packet as well.
Truman Howell: Right. I believe it's Sheet 2., A2.4. The drawing actually show both sections
through both sides of the building, and you can see from across the street is basically as far as we
got away. Obviously the dashed line that you see is the, based on where that view is taken, is the
area that would still be invisible from that particular location on the street. However, I certainly
would agree if you find a certain distance and a certain height away, then in fact you would see
theln. No question about that. However we do feel that there's quite a bit of flexibility here in
terms of it being a 3 story building, that would protect the visibility for quite a ways away. Are
there any other questions that I can answer for you?
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Blackowiak: Well I can think of one. Can you just speak to the sidewalk issue along the west
end of the parking lot?
Truman Howell: That's one of the things I was saying that was kind of a given at the time. The,
obviously as much planting as possible, I'm assuming you're talking about, if I may. You're
talking about this area here?
Blackowiak: Right.
Truman Howell: Okay. Again, those were given to us. We planted that area obviously to get as
much vegetation as possible. We did not suggest an additional sidewalk be put in there, though
I'm assuming that that can be done.
Blackowiak: Okay, would you consider that as a possibility?
Truman Howell: Pardon me?
Blackowiak: Would you consider that as a possibility?
Truman Howell: Well we can consider anything of course.
Blackowiak: Wrong question I guess, I'm sorry.
Truman Howell: Let me suggest that obviously we can draw it on there. It's a cost issue.
Obviously the owner has some serious input about costs. So as, is it possible to do? Absolutely.
Blackowiak: Okay. Well as long as we know we can put a condition on, that's, okay. Anybody
have any questions for the applicant?
Claybaugh: I had some questions here.
Blackowiak: Sure.
Claybaugh: With respect to the.
Slagle: Madam Chair?
Blackowiak: If you'd like to come up to the microphone so everyone can hear. Thank you.
Mark Clarey' I just wanted to, I'm Mark Clarey. I'm with Northcott Company and I just
wanted to answer a couple questions that I heard so far. We did originally when we were
working, even with Mika on the original concept stage, give consideration to having the sidewalk
on the west side. Staff made a reference to it earlier. We felt that as the operators of the business
out there, that we feel most of the traffic is going to be coming between the hotels and along the
Main Street drive avenue. We don't feel that there's going to be that much traffic coming from
Bokoo Bikes and back up to Houlihan's or back from the restaurant where people would head out
of the restaurant, walk over to Bokoo Bikes, given the time of night, and head up. We wanted to
keep as much greenscape within there. To be quite frank with you, you can put the sidewalk in
there cheaper than we can probably put all the landscaping in there so, I don't have an issue with
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that but I think it's going to look more like a concrete jungle for lack of a better term at this point
than what you're going to want to see with greenscape out there.
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you. Do you want to start with questions?
Claybaugh: Questions, yeah.
Blackowiak: Sure.
Claybaugh: I'm assuming you've seen the recommendations with the conditions set forth by the
city staff.
Mark Clarey: We have seen them, yes.
Claybaugh: Okay. Is there anything in there, in the 41 conditions that was an issue? For the
applicant I should say.
Mark Clarey: Since I'm the one with the money, I guess I'11, and it's not totally money. I think
that architectural taste are each individual's taste, no difference than houses, etc, and our past
work with the community and with the city, I think we've delivered pretty nice projects out here
between the Americlnn and Houlihan' s, as well as Northcott building and our goal is to put in
projects that are feasible and aesthetically fitting into the area and I know it's a common goal.
Our CEO, that's how he directs me all the time. I will tell you that this was the third attempt at
drawing this building so far to date and we have financially performed it the three separate times
prior and each time it did not perform. We think that we' ye .got a project now that's going to be
financially feasible, given it's current state. We're in the middle of financially proving that again.
We're actually taking out through a separate set of contractors again trying to verify that. I don't
have an issue in seeing the staff' s comments of all of the, I'm going to call them the A windows
on each of the two dormer elevations, below the shake shingles. I go back, our CEO, Lou
Crowler is from New York so I've made a few visits out there and typically when I see the old
retail sections in town there, the lower levels are completely differentiated from the upper two
levels, but I can see where staff is talking about here, that it would help pronounce that area more
than what's currently shown. The other items on the fiat roof issues, I personally had a lot of
input into the whole design and I like those on the other end. That's again just personal, opinion.
As far as the overall portion of the EIFS on the building, I don't know why the change came in.
My understanding is that was about a year ago or so that the change was adopted for the 15
percent requirement. Originally when EPS first came in there was some problems with EIFS
across the country. It's a substantially better product than what it was. Without a doubt there are
some class action lawsuits taking place in the southeast and in the northwest over EEFS products.
You don't see those in the Midwest, and from a long term and maintenance aspect around here
and particularly in this climate, they're a very good product. I think we're well within the
guidelines of what's been approved out within the project so far, and the other thing that frankly I
didn't notice before in the staff report was the downward shining only lighting on the building.
We're not intending to light the sky and put an airport runway out there, as you can see with our
office building. Our new prototypes on our hospitality concepts, it's similar to what we're doing
in the last Houlihan's that we've gotten through. The ground lighting that we're using is aimed
up at the cornice on the roof. The portion where the roof overhang and the walls come together
so that you get a bounce back, just like our office building, and it illuminates in a strong
characteristic the entire facade of the building as well as giving more of that lighting that we're
talking about down onto the sidewalk. It doesn't shine up and over the roof elements of the
building. What it also does is that we're finding out that when you have soffit lighting on a
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building of this height, it's a real nightmare to maintain it. You can imagine trying to get someone
out there as lamps go out of lights and the building's got 2 or 3 on any one elevation. Now trying
to get someone out there in the middle of winter to keep those changed. It's pretty hard to do.
You need special pieces of equipment whereas if you have the lighting mounted as we're
showing on the plan at approximately the 15 foot range, you can get out there with a common
step ladders and change those lamps and you're not having them all on all the time. Other than
that I didn't have too many issues. See I think it's a nice looking project but obviously I would,
but I'm trying to get it go through.
Blackowiak: Alrighty, thank you.
Claybaugh: Well I'll come back to the question. What we have in front of us is a recommendation
with the 41 conditions so that's why I want to specifically ask you about those. With respect to
the up lighting there, was there any information forwarded to the city or available to us with
respect to the fixtures and the lumens that they're proposing?
Mark Clarey: We do have those available and we can certainly bring them to the city.
Claybaugh: Okay. And if in fact we do not approve the 26 percent EPS, had they considered
what the alternative would be at this point or is that premature?
Mark Clarey: No we have not. Frankly if you look at how the building is broke at those points,
it' s a natural point to break the materials and looking.at it right here, if you take that front to back
where the break lines are on your drawing, the EIFS stands out there at the ends of the building.
The flat roof portion of the building are basically the portions of the building that have the EIFS
on them. Thank you. No, I'm not quite sure where we're going to go about mixing it up again
and trying to eliminate that.
Claybaugh: That's all the questions I have for the applicant.
Blackowiak: Thank you.
Lillehaug: I do have some questions. There's a note on Sheet C-1 that refers to concrete
driveway entrances. I don't see any shown. I'm wondering if you're anticipating installing any.
Mark Clarey: Frankly I don't remember the note quite frankly but the parking lot, paved parking
lot and if he's talking about a concrete approach. I'm not familiar that we've got concrete
approaches in any of the PUD areas...
Lillehaug: It's on Sheet C-1 and it's probably about the third note down.
Truman Howell: All curb and gutter be concrete?
Mark Clarey: Is that what it is, all the curb and gutter?
Lillehaug: No, it's about the seventh one down.
Mark Clarey: Oh I see it now. I do see concrete aprons to be installed for all access drives onto
public streets.
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Truman Howell: That's only when you change from the concrete to a, I'm sure the civil engineer
put a standard piece of insulation around it. Typically when you go from a different material to a
bituminous material, you put a concrete apron in there to, so when the trunk of the cars or the
trucks or what have you are turning, there's heavier wear at that location. Therefore that's
typically...completely concrete surface...
Lillehaug: Okay. And then I'm looking at the construction plan on that same sheet. Promenade,
that'd be that north private road there. I am wondering, the north road, north of.
Truman Howell: On Promenade?
Lillehaug: Right. It appears that you'll be constructing a curb and gutter on the south side of that
road. There's a segment missing on the north side, which is east of Houlihan's.
Mark Clarey: We're actually planning on trying to take care of that next year.
Lillehaug: Excellent.
Mark Clarey: We don't like it either.
Lillehaug: Okay, then since you don't like that, what do you think about a little further to the east
there, the little modified traffic circle there. It's got some very ugly settlement. Heaving of the
concrete. I think they're cobblestones. Very bad settlement. Do you anticipate incorporating any
repairs of that in the project?
Mark Clarey: No. We've written a letter and had conversations with the head of the association
out there. Right now it's currently run in the association and that's the goal is the entire
development is progressing ahead and now there's more people involved and we believe it's
something to be taken this spring out there. We're in conversation with the people leading the
association out there right now.
Lillehaug: One more settlement issue. In the southeast corner, and it'd be on Main Street, there's
another segment of curb that's settled so maybe bring that to light. The very southeast there's a
catch basin there in the corner parking lot. It's in the south east on Main Street in the parking lot.
A corner. A diagonal corner stall. There's settlement issues out there around.
Mark Clarey: Until the final lifts go in in that roadway, there's probably going to be a few more
given the underlying soils out there.
Lillehaug: And I hope we address them at this time so it doesn't get pushed to the wayside here.
What else do I have here? There's some other notes on there. It says 18 foot depth of a few
parking stalls. And it's not really clear which ones are going to be 18 foot.
Truman Howell: Typically it would be all of them. All of the parking stalls.
Lillehaug: Okay, I think we, I think the city would want to see 19 foot, ifI could get a comment
on that from staff.
Generous: The standards are 62 feet total, so that's two 18's and a 26.
Lillehaug: Okay. That ends my comments.
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Blackowiak: Thank you.
Feik: I have a quick question. Would you be amenable to providing additional screening around
the roof tops? The Pres Homes is going to be up fairly quickly. It will be a residence living
across the street, both to the south and then to the new facility which is also going to be to the
east. I think it's a very nice roof line overall. I do like the flat roof portion of it. I would like
your opinion as to whether or not you would be amenable to some additional screening on the
roof top units.
Mark Clarey: Frankly I would not, and I've taken a look at where the elevations even where Pres
Homes is. It's quite a ways away and it's, depending on where you're going in the current city of
Chanhassen, you can always see, as Bob will say, any of the roof tops. I can drive down
Highway 5 and look at roof tops on any one story project, and even some of your two story
projects, including the Target. You know the buildings. That was one of the reasons,
considerations in the conversation with staff originally when we were going through the design
elements.
Feik: So I'd take that as a no.
Mark Clarey: Yes.
Feik: Thank you.
Mark Clarey: Without a doubt.
Feik: That's it.
Blackowiak: Okay.
Sidney: I guess one question about signage. Wondering if you could address the staffs
reconmaendation to deny a variance for signage in excess of 20 feet in height.
Mark Clarey: The only two locations where, other than the tower sign, where we felt that the
signage would need to be above the 20 foot zones, do you have an elevation of the building?
Truman Howell: This is actually on the restaurant end, which as you can see has the access into
the parking ramp below. And the signage is here approximately 22 to 28 feet to the top of the
sign. On the other side is the end of the swimming pool. There again it's about 22 to 28 feet.
Just because quite frankly the visibility within the sign band, from the surrounding area is going
to be... being able to see it, especially important at the restaurant so...
Mark Clarey: The main retail ones, if you look at, this example has got the picture. Now the
main retail runs lend themselves to only the signage coming in the band between the bottom and
second floor windows and down to the top of the first floor windows anyway, so if you look at
the signage of the 20 foot range on those elevations, the hotel pool will be in the far north end of
the building, so on the two, I always get these streets confused out there but between Lake Drive
and Main Street, those two elevations primary would not have anything where the actual signage
would be above 20 feet. The restaurant, given the entrance into the site and without visibility
from Highway 5, we felt it was a good opportunity to have that be noticeable for anyone that's
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coming around the comer. Obviously you want the restaurant to have the best possibility of a
success entity out there.
Slagle: One last question. This un-named road, which would be on the west side of the property.
Mark, would you agree that that is probably the most heavily traveled road if you're getting to
Houlihan's and American Inn?
Mark Clarey: Currently I would, and prior to Culver's I would have, but now with Culver's in
there I'm seeing a lot of traffic coming down the Promenade road. Obviously I go over there for
lunch every day so I see quite a bit, and I'm there for dinner a lot of times, but otherwise without
a doubt, between Pond Promenade and that one currently, yes. I think it would be a bank
building just completed on main drive through the property is going to be the primary road
through the PUD.
Slagle: Okay. And I'm not going down this path, we talked sidewalk or anything but just a
question that seems to be, it seems like it's going to be pretty tight with, and I don't want to say,
right's probably the wrong word. But it's going to be a busy little road, wouldn't you think?
Okay. I'm just asking for your, that's it.
Blackowiak: Okay, thanks. Uli, questions.
Sacc!' :t: Yeah, to follow up on LuAnn's question about the signs. Just to be clear. What would
be on those two signs and what would be on the signs in the tower? I mean what's your plans?
The restaurant, the hotel or what?
Truman Howell: Probably be the name of the restaurant, whatever that might be...
Sacchet: Oh, at the end where the restaurant is? On the other side?
Truman Howell: Probably the name of the hotel.
Sacchet: On the tower?
Truman Howell: On the tower, I'm not sure yet.
Sacchet: You don't know yet.
Mark Clarey: We're considering a couple different things. Right now we would like to have the
name of the overall hotel on the tower, or something to the effect of Northcott Inn Center or
something along those lines.
Sacchet: The name of the place, okay. Okay. And the purpose would be, that from the tower to
see it from Highway 5 or?
Truman Howell: Yes.
Sacchet: And on the north side also, to see it from Highway 5?
Truman Howell: Yes.
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Sacchet: And that would be the hotel side. And then the restaurant side would really not be
visible from the Highway 5 anyhow.
Truman Howell: Not from Highway 5, no.
Sacchet: Okay. Okay, that's my question. Thank you.
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you. And I don't have any questions for the applicant fight now.
Thank you. This item is open for a public hearing, so if anybody would like to comment on this,
please come to the microphone and state your name and address for the record.
Vernelle Clayton: Madam Chairman, I'm Vernelle Clayton. I live at 422 Santa Fe Circle.
Another one of these sexy voices. I'm not getting too close to anybody. I'm here again to
support two things that I supported a few weeks ago. A month or so ago when we did the, what
we call the C Building. One is, as you know, and I think Mika made it very clear, that we are at
Village on the Ponds, and those of us that have been involved now for a few years in the project
are very strong supporters of the variety and the character that we think the EIFS product brings
to our project. It's been made pretty clear that a nice looking building can be EIFS. In the Bokoo
Bikes building we used it to great advantage in the building that we call the silo building where
we got about, we divided the building into three, one of which was EIFS, one brick and one
siding. There aren't an awful lot of choices for people to use. If this group is precluded from
using EIFS in the area where they want to use it, one of the, my fear is that one of the obvious
choices that would be to go to more siding and I think in part as a result of recent attempts to
accommodate this new requirement, that we limit EIFS. We're very close to having too much
siding in the Village on the Pond to continue to have a creative and exciting movement of
materials and design. What I guess I should have said is very close to becoming monotonous
from that perspective. I'm not saying that that's what they would do, but I think that if we say
they can't do what they want to do, that's obviously a risk. I'm also here to support on behalf'of
the Village on the Ponds project, their request for the higher signs. We had, at the outset of the
project the requirement that certain areas could have higher signs, particularly if they were put in
an architectural element of the building, and we were somewhat arbitrary about where that could'
be. We said it could be, if it were along Highway 5. I think now though we've seen enough of
the project so that there is not a chance that if a few signs that are higher than 20 feet are put in, it
will set a trend for the rest of the project. We knbw where we have them. We know what
buildings are left to come. Currently there is only one large building and that's nearly as large as
either of the other 3 corners of the Lake and Main intersection, that hasn't been approved.
There's another smaller building that will, or could be about 18,000 square feet in one or two
buildings that would be brought to you, that will be across the street to the south of the silo one
building. That will be a low building. It's limited to two stories, so it's not at this point, I can't -
see that there are many opportunities for enormously high signs that might be requested there. So
I think that we've, the requirement, the limitation has served it's purpose. We don't have a
proliferation of an awful lot of high signs. We have tasteful signs where we have them, and I
think that their request for these signs in the three locations are tasteful. That the request, the
result will be tasteful. And so I would encourage you to grant that variance. Thank you.
Blackowiak: Thank you Vernelle. Is there anyone else who'd like to speak on this issue? Seeing
no one, I'll close the public hearing and I will open it up for commissioners comments. Why
don't we start down with Commissioner Slagle.
Slagle: I would throw out quickly that I think project by project, we have started to see, I
shouldn't say start to see. Have seen a very nice development take place. I'm very happy with
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what I've seen, and I'd have to apologize to staff if I voted for the EIFS limitation at 15. If I had
a chance to vote over again, I might go for a little bit more, just to let you know. So I'm going to
go with that variance request. I would say this. That I think going back to the Culver's which
was one of my first projects to sit on, there's been a strong resignation on my part for pedestrian
safety in this area since it is defined as a pedestrian friendly area. And to me, from one person's
viewpoint, that is sort of going beyond, if you will, the extras to help with that safety because
there are a lot of cars, and there's going to be more cars with the development, and we all hope it
succeeds. So I would just like to state again that I hope that we can work with the sidewalk. I'm
going to ask for that as a condition. I'm going to also ask for at least, not so much a condition but
request that there be dialogue between staff and the applicant for the additional pedestrian ramp
in the parking lot, if that works. I'll leave the light stuff to you guys. If you think there's need
for more light, great. But other than that, I'm okay with the signage. I'm fine, especially hearing
after Vernelle, by the way I hoe you feel better, that there's not going to be lots of opportunities
for more signage that high. So I'm very favorable towards this application.
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you. Uli.
Sacchet: I think it's a great project. I mean it's really fantastic what's happening there. I think
it's very well designed. I like the variety. I like the looks of it. There's a couple of issues. The
Eff:S is obviously one of them. I don't know how logical it is to replace EIFS with siding. I
would think stucco would probably be the more logical choice, but I'm not an expert so I don't
~ow. It's tricky. I mean I like to be the good guy too, but then on the other hand by the rules
that I'm given to look at, it's, I don't think it's my place at this point, sitting here in this chair, to
evaluate whether the 15 percent ordinance is correct or not. Nor is it my prerogative to look ~t
and see whether I like it or not. I have to look at the context and the context is pretty clearly
defined. I mean is there a hardship? I can't see a hardship by having to use let's say stucco
instead of EIFS. And the same applies to the signs. There's another element that we have to look
at in our criteria. Is it applicable to other properties. Well it is applicable given it's in that area,
it's probably the last major piece in that particular Village development, but it's applicable to the
rest of the city. So loo 'king at these criteria, I have a hard time supporting this variance and
personally I think permissiveness is not a good thing. I mean we have to try to stick with the
rules, and I would be inconsistent with the position I took with the previous variance with the sign
height if I would turn around and support it here. As a matter of fact it'd probably be more
appropriate to have supported it in the previous case because it's right next to the highway. This
one is not. So I agree with the staff recommendations, with the conditions. I would like to
suggest that we add a couple of the specifics that I'm not sure are in there, like in terms of adding
a little more interest to those windows, but generally I agree with the staff recommendation.
That's my comment.
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you. LuAnn.
Sidney: Yes, I'm generally in favor of this project. I think the idea of the building, placement of
the building, height of the building, I agree with. I guess I'm having some trouble with the
architecture and I believe staff has been working with the applicant to increase the architectural
interest of the building. I do have some concerns because we're going to be across the street from
Building C, which I believe in terms of what we've seen, was a magnificent building. It had a lot
of interesting European flare to it. In this case I just don't see those elements presented in this
application and I would really encourage the applicant to work with staff to try to incorporate
some of those features from Building C into this building. I guess in looking at the elevation it
just looks unfinished...interest in the building. I think that is somewhat given in the PUD design
guidelines. If you look at, under building materials and design, point 10. We're looking to avoid
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extreme variations between buildings on the same street in terms of overall appearance, bulk and
height, setbacks and colors, and that should be prohibited to extreme variations, and I don't know
if I'd put this building in terms of an extreme variation but I would like to see, like I said, more
elements of Building C incorporated into this design. So I guess those are my major comments.
Oh, I guess I should comment about the variances. I think we just don't see a case for a hardship
in this case. The architect can design the building without the use of more than 15 percent EIFS
and I'd like to follow the signage guidelines as given in the ordinances.
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you. Bruce.
Feik: Yes. I very much like the project as a whole. The way things are going. I do have some
concerns. One is, I' 11 agree with the sidewalk issue on the west side. I would be willing to give
up parking in exchange for sidewalk, quite frankly. The whole idea of the ponds was to be
friendly and allow the people to mingle and wander around the project, not necessarily on one
side of the sidewalk or the other so I would certainly be willing to give up parking in exchange
for sidewalk. I'm not sure I'd want to give up the landscaping though. I just want to make that
real clear. But definitely I would like to see that sidewalk on the left side. I think, I must be the
only one here that's concerned with the roof. The units, but I'll voice my opinion one more time.
We are going to have residential tenants in the neighborhood that will be able to see quite frankly
the roof top units, as well as signage, and what' s going to happen out their windows. And so I
guess I would really, and I guess I'm the only one up here but I would really would have liked to
have seen the roof top screened full height to the top of the unit. I know there' s difficulties in
doing that, but I know it also can be done. Thirdly, signage as per the variance. I don't see a
large compelling reason to approve a variance on signage. And the same thing with the EIFS. I
think comments have been made that I can just agree with that have been made thus far so I don't
support the variance for either the signage or the EIFS.
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you.
Lillehaug: I also generally support this project. There will be a few conditions that I would like
to add, and I do support the EIFS variance and I do agree with staff on not sUpporting the sign
variance. I don't think there's a compelling reason for that. And then I would like to just make a
few other statements. A few weeks back we sat here and we critiqued a concept PUD for not
being complete as it didn't contain what was expected. Again the word concept sticks in my
mind. Here we have a final site plan. There's 41 plus conditions. More than half of these
conditions are specific code requirements that are not contained in these site plans. I just feel
with this many conditions that some of these might not get implemented. I would not like to
think that but that's how I feel. Conditions I believe in granting approval to site and building
plans, they' re meant to promote city ordinances and protect the adjacent properties. Not to just
have a proliferation of reiterating what's in the codes. This is the final Planning Commission tool
that we have in review of the site plan, and I'm just seeing not enough information in the site
plan, and what this does to me is it, it' s hard for me to just overlook all these other issues. Storm
sewer's incomplete to me and I do rely heavily on staff to ensure that this is complete but it
should already be complete at this stage. There's a couple things I would like to add as
conditions because I feel they're in absence here. We need to include a pavement section. We
have poor soils out there and I don't think I stumbled across a pavement section in these plans so
I would like to have the applicant work with staff on an approved pavement section. And I think
one other thing is, I do strongly support staffs recommendation for the aesthetic conditions that
were set forth in the conditions here, and that would end my comments, thank you.
Blackowiak: Thank you.
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Claybaugh: Like my fellow commissioners I generally like the project as it's set forth. The
things that I feel I can support would be the EIFS variance. The reason being for that is that I
believe it's a natural break at those lines and proportions on those building segments to break the
materials there. I understand that the cost of brick is going to be in excess of 30 percent more, but
with that I would like to see some information sent forward to City Council on the drainage
system behind that EIFS to assure that the best system is being set forth to mitigate the problems
of the past. With respect to staff's recommendation to eliminate the up lighting, again I don't feel
that we had sufficient information provided for us here with respect to the lumens and the fixture
cuts to make that decision but again I wanted to give the applicant the benefit of the doubt, but I
would suspect that information, along with the drainage information would be sent forward to the
City Council. The signage variance I could support from the standpoint of the west elevation and
the north elevation, and my reason for being able to support that is that I don't think anything is
gained architecturally or otherwise by trying to force those proportions down within the 20 foot
range on how those buildings are designed. I cannot support the variance for the signage on the
tower, 54 feet. I think that's excessive and unnecessary and unlike the previous applicant that we
denied it on, or split our vote on, I feel they have more latitude with respect to the designing that
sign. It's difficult to design a building around the signage. Their's was an external monument so
I perceive those differently. I believe that the staff's architectural suggestion should be
incorporated. I feel strongly about that. Just as a point, I did not see a shingle selection
displayed. That's of interest and with respect to what Commissioner Slagle brought up, and was
reiterated by Commissioner Feik, the sidewalk on the west side is again an important issue to me.
I believe the pedestrian aspect of the development is often overlooked, and that's typically one of
the large elements that come to mind when you go out there to use the particular development and
different facilities that are there. That's the extent of my comments.
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you. My con2nents, for the most part have already been voiced by my
fellow co~mnissioners. I certainly agree with a majority of what's been said, including the
addition of conditions for a sidewalk and approved pavement section. Kate, before we go ahead
with the vote, I do have a question. Would it be possible for us to split the vote for the variance
and make two variance votes? One for the EIFS and one for the sign? Okay, I think that that
n-fight give us a little.
Aanenson: If you could put your findings, what your basis is for that recommendation too.
Blackowiak: The recon-unendation that we're splitting?
Aanenson: What the rationale is for whatever your motion is as a part of that. So we have some
findings, some basis for that, that's fine.
Blackowiak: Okay. We can do that I think. At this point, the EIFS variance I don't see a
hardship for. We've got a standard and again we look for a compelling reason, we look for
hardship and I'm not seeing it. On the signage, I am agreeing with Craig, and we're not going to
go down this road. I know last time we had the signage vote that was never ending and we're not
doing that again. But I would like to say, I do agree with his comment that the tower sign I think
is excessive. I certainly could support the west end sign by the restaurant. That makes perfect
sense based on how it's laid out. The north end as well, I can see that, but the tower sign I don't
think is necessary so that would be my feeling on the signage. We need a vote so let's start with
our site plan. I'll need a motion.
Feik: Question I believe at the end.
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Blackowiak: Sure.
Slagle: Just to avoid the signage vote again, would it be worth considering voting on each of the
signs? Or splitting them into two. I'm just throwing it out.
Sacchet: Let me think about while we do the site plan, how about that Madam Chair?
Feik: How about we come back to that.
Blackowiak: Yeah, let's come back to that. That's a good thought. I don't know. I mean we
could just vote endlessly. Let's just start with the site plan and see where we get from there.
Sacchet: Alright. May I make a motion then?
Blackowiak: Please go ahead.
Sacchet: I'd like to make the motion that the Planning Commission recommends approval of site
plan #2002-9, plans prepared by Truman Howell Architects and Associates Inc dated October 18,
2002 for a 70,873 square foot three story building consisting of street level commercial and upper
level hotel rooms subject to the following conditions. 1 through 41.
Feik: Got to take 3 and 4 out.
Sacchet: 3 and 4? Oh because we take those, I don't want to take.
Blackowiak: Not 3.
Sacchet: Yeah, I don't want to take 3 out. But we take 4 out.
Feik: I thought we do that separate, alright.
Sacchet: Because we do that separate, okay. 4 gets taken out because it talks about separate. I
would like to modify.
Blackowiak: You know what, excuse me. Can I just ask a question? Kate, should we leave 4 in?
We leave it in the site plan as is and then if the variance, that would supercede the site plan, is
that correct?
Generous: I would think that would cover it, yeah.
Blackowiak: Okay.
Sacchet: So we leave it in?
Blackowiak: Let's leave it in, and then if the variance should pass, then that would supercede it.
Sacchet: Then it would supercede it. So we leave it in now, and then make a variance that...I
like that.
Blackowiak: Okay, so. Sorry.
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Sacchet: Alright, number 3 and 4 are as is. Number 8, I like to say additional differentiation
shall be provided around the windows in the flat roofed sections of the building on all three sides,
both ends of the building. And then it's basically work with staff to work out something. I mean
it is a whole range of possibilities that can be worked on. Then condition number 10. Oh
actually there's something, condition number 7 too. Each of the windows located below the
shake dormers on the second and third floor shall be placed with six panels on both the Lake
Drive and Main Street building and elevations for second and third floor. Like to be specific.
Condition number 10, the applicant shall revise all plan sheets to incorporate the landscape
islands within the parking lot, with a minimum of 10 feet wide. I think that's what it said in the
report. And evergreens outside the sight triangle. Then I like to delete condition number 33
because it's covered in condition number 12. And I let you guys add 42 and 43. That's my
motion.
Lillehaug: I would like to comment on 12 and 33. One's for the plan sheets and one is for the
building.
Sacchet: They're not the same? It looked like the same to me but that might just be my
ignorance.
Blackowiak: Well, plan sheets. I think they're different.
Lillehaug: Do you consider them the same?
Sacchet: Are they the same? 12 and 33. 12 is a little longer so I figured if we leave that one.
Blackowiak: More is better? Are they the same?
Saam: They're going to be signed the same.
Sacchet: They've got to be signed, right. I mean if they're not the same by all means but if
they're the same.
Lillehaug: So that's fine.
Sacchet: Thanks Steve. Alright. Motion open for second and then friendly amendments.
Blackowiak: Okay there's been a motion, is there a second?
Lillehaug: I'll second it with a friendly amendment. Referring to the, having the design
pavement section.
Sacchet: That's acceptable.
Blackowiak: Okay, and then also.
Sacchet: That's Rich.
Blackowiak: Rich?
$1agle: What's that?
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Sacchet: Sidewalk.
Blackowiak: Do you have a friendly amendment?
Slagle: Yeah, I actually had a few. One would be, and I don't know if we want to add it into
condition number 9, or just a new one, to install a sidewalk running north/south on the western
edge of the property. I'll leave that up to staff.
Sacchet: Make it a new one.
Blackowiak: Make it stand out.
Slagle: Okay. And then the other one would be, I shouldn't say conditions but if you guys thing
it should be a condition, I'm just thinking about that additional pedestrian ramp.
Sacchet: Work with staff maybe.
Blackowiak: Work with staff recommendation.
Slagle: If that works.
Blackowiak: Okay, did you accept those?
Sacchet: That' s, so we have one about the staff approved pavement section. We have the one
about the sidewalk to the west. And then work with staff to consider pedestrian.
Blackowiak: Ramp.
Slagle: Do you want it as a condition or?
Aanenson: I think probably work with staff.
Sacchet: Work with staff is fine.
Blackowiak: Comment Bruce?
Feik: And I would like to add a friendly amendment. I'm going to throw it out and test the
waters on this one. That the roof top units be screened to the full height of the unit.
Sacchet: I think I reject that Bruce.
Feik: Thought I'd try.
Blackowiak: Or work with applicant, staff.
Sacchet: Staff. Well, the reason why I rejected it is, I mean.
Feik: That doesn't mean anything...
Sacchet: ...much flatter than working. I think it's fine. Sorry, I don't share that with.
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LiIlehaug: I would like one more friendly amendment here. The sidewalks, I would like to see
them incorporate enhanced pavers as did Building C I think is what they're calling it?
Sacchet: Work with staff maybe. Do you want to be specific? The dipped one?
Lillehaug: The enhanced pavers I think it covered the entire sidewalks adjacent to Main Street.
Sacchet: We want to be consistent.
Slagle: But just on Main, right?
Aanenson: On the street side.
Blackowiak: On the street side.
Slagle: Yeah.
Sacchet: Okay. Okay, that's fine.
Slagle: You're not talking parking.
Lillehaug: No.
Blackowiak: No. So just to be consistent with what's already been approved.
Sacchet: To be consistent, that's hard to disagree with that. Definitely.
Claybaugh: How do I work towards a clarification on item number 5? Which is the exterior
building lighting shall be revised to shine downward only.
Aanenson: That's city ordinance. They're going to have to give us photometrics. If they want to
do something else, they may have to come back for a variance because city ordinance says all
lighting shall be downcast so anything else would probably have to come back to you.
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Claybaugh: Then that would be my clarification. I thank you.
Blackowiak: So we're clarified. So there's been a motion. There's been a second. There have
been several friendly amendments.
Claybaugh: A couple not so friendly.
Slagle: ...on number 4, by leaving it in, okay. Am I, if I'm in agreement with the variance.
Blackowiak: You vote yes on the variance request then.
Slagle: But is this going to come first?
Claybaugh: No.
Sacchet: No, this variance is going to supercede this.
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Slagle: So I could theoretically vote for this, even though it says signage shall comply with the
Village on the Ponds design standards, and then on the variance vote yes and that will supercede
this?
Blackowiak: Correct.
Sacchet: Correct, that's my understanding.
Blackowiak: That was my understanding as well.
Aanenson: You know what, I think it's, I'm with Rich. It's just clearer if you leave it out
because there is some ambiguity.
Blackowiak: Okay, so then we'll leave on a friendly amendment.
Sacchet: Yeah, I don't want to leave it out. If we want to do something about it, I think we
should say signage shall comply with variance decision. Subsequent variance decision,
something like that. It needs to be linked.
Aanenson: Then you need to do the ordinance, you need to vote on the variance first. If you're
not going to have concurrence on the variance.
Sacchet: Scratch it. Yeah, because it could really shape the whole thing.
Aanenson: Well you might not have concurrence on the variance.
Sacchet: Right. You're right. You're right. So I withdraw my motion. We do the variance first,
is that what we want to do Madam Chair?
Blackowiak: No.
Aanenson: ...take the condition out and vote on it separately.
Sacchet: Vote it separately. That's acceptable to me.
Blackowiak: Okay, so we'll remove condition 4 at this point and after the variance vote we will
have a separate vote on that condition alone, is that what you're saying?
Aanenson: That's what I would suggest.
Sacchet: Yes, that's fine.
Blackowiak: Alright, so there's been a motion and a second. Several friendly amendments.
Sacchet moved, Lillehaug seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of
Site Plan ~Y2002-9, plans prepared by Truman Howell Architects & Associates, Inc., dated
October 18, 2002 for a 70,873 square foot, three story building consisting of street level
commercial and upper level hotel rooms, subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the City and provide the
necessary security to guarantee erosion control, site restoration and landscaping.
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Site plan approval is contingent on final platting of Outlot A, Villages on the Ponds 2nd
Addition to a block and lot designation.
Lighting shall comply with the Villages on the Ponds design standards and city code.
(Voted as a separate motion.)
The exterior building lighting shall be revised to shine downward only.
The overhead doors at both the garage entrance and trash storage shall be painted a
similar color to the surrounding material.
Each of the windows located below the shake dormers on the second and third floors shall
be replaced with six-panel windows on both the Lake Drive and Main Street building
elevations for the second and third level.
Additional differentiation shall be provided around the windows in the fiat roofed sections
of the building on all three sides on both ends of the building. This could be done
through the use of window accents, such as plant boxes, shutters, balconies, decks, grates,
canopies, awnings, recesses, embrasures, arches, lunettes, and different types of windows
such as bay, multi-paned, angular, square, rectangular, half-round, round, Italianate.
The developer shall be required to install the streetscape in compliance with the
streetscape plan approved for Villages on the Ponds.
The applicant shall revise all plan sheets to incorporate the landscape islands within the
paring lot a minimum of 10 feet wide and evergreens outside the sight triangle.
The building must be protected with automatic fire sprinkler systems.
The building plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the
State of Minnesota.
The building must be constructed in accordance with the Minnesota State Building Code.
(Note: The International Building Code will probably be adopted by the State at the time
the building is constructed.)
An accessible route must be provided to the building, parking facilities, public
transportation stops and all common use facilities.
Seven accessible parking spaces must be provided on the site.
Accessible guestrooms must be provided in accordance with Minnesota State Building
Code Chapter 1341.
The building owner and/or their representatives should meet with the Inspections Division
to discuss plan review and permit procedures. In particular, type of construction and
allowable area issues need to be reviewed and discussed.
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A 10 foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e. street lamps, trees,
shrubs, bushes, Qwest, Xcel Energy, Cable TV, and transformer boxes. This is to ensure
that fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to
Chanhassen City Ordinance ~a)-l.
All radius tums shall be designed to accommodate the turning of Chanhassen Fire
Department's largest apparatus. Submit radius tums and dimensions to the Chanhassen
City Engineer and Chanhassen Fke Marshall for review and approval. Pursuant to 1997
Uniform Fire Code Section 902.2.2.3.
Additional fire hydrants will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact
location.
A PIV (Post Indicator Valve) will be required on the fire water line coming into the
building. Contact the Fire Marshal for exact location.
"No Parking Fire Lane" signs will be required as well as curbing to be painted yellow.
Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing to be painted
yellow. Pursuant to 1997 Uniform Fire Code Section 904.1.
The builder must comply with water service installation policy for commercial and
industrial buildings. Pursuant to Inspection Division Water Service Installation Policy
#34-1993.
The building must comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division
regarding maximum allowable size of a domestic water line on a combination water
sprinkler supply line. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division
Policy #36-1994.
The builder must comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division
regarding premise identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire
Prevention Division Policy #29-1992.
With referencing proposed restaurant, the builder must comply with the Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Division policy referencing cooking equipment exhaust hood
requirements. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy
#35-1994.
A private easement will be required for the storm sewer which runs off site to the west.
A cross-access agreement between parcels must be recorded.
Submit storm sewer design calculations for a 10 year, 24 hour storm event with drainage
flow map.
Add the current version of the City of Chanhassen Detail Plate Nos. 3101, 3102, 3104,
3107, 3108, 5203, 5300, 5301, and 5302.
The applicant is responsible to obtain and comply with all regulatory agency permits,
including but not limited to Watershed District, MPCA, etc.
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Retaining walls over 4 feet in height must be designed by a registered engineer and
requires an approved fence at the top of the wall.
All plan sheets must be signed by a registered engineer.
Add a minimum 75 foot long rock construction entrance and revise the note from 50 feet
to 75 feet.
Add a storm sewer schedule to the plans.
Type II silt fence shall be used around the grading area. Also, existing catch basins
around the site perimeter must be protected from construction-related sediment through
the use of filter balTiers, (see City Detail Pate No. 5302).
Revised the legends to match the plan drawings.
On the site plan, revise the dimension of the north access entrance width to 26 feet.
Any off-site grading will require easements from the appropriate property owners.
On the grading plan:
· Show alt existing and proposed easements.
Add a benchmark.
Differentiate between existing and proposed storm sewer lines.
· Show Type II silt fence around the perimeter of the grading area and Type III adjacent to
the pond.
· Show the construction rock entrance minimum of 75 feet.
· Show the building basement elevation and how it will drain.
· CBMH #101 must be with sump.
· :;l',ow the existing and proposed storm sewer flow direction.
· Show the proposed storm sewer class.
· Show all existing pipe information including pipe type, slope, class and size.
· Designate which parking stalls are meant to be handicap accessible.
On the utility plan:
· Differentiate between existing and proposed utility lines.
· Add note "Any connection to existing structures must be core drilled".
· Show all existing and proposed utilities sewer type, class, size, length, flow direction,
slope.
· The existing water and sanitary stubs off of Lake Drive are shown incorrectly. Verify
locations with as-builts.
· Show the location of existing ate valves on the water service lines.
The applicant shall include a design pavement section.
The applicant install a sidewalk running north/south on the western edge of the
property.
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To be consistent with Building C, the applicant shall include incorporate enhanced
pavers with the sidewalk on Main Street.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 7 to 0.
Blackowiak: Motion carries 7-0. Now we will go to the variance votes. We'll do variance vote
number 1. May I have a motion regarding the 15 percent EIFS please.
Feik: I'll make a motion. Planning Commission recommends denial of the variance for the use
of more than 15 percent EIFS. Period. I have to drop the second portion of that which deals with
the signage.
Blackowiak: Correct. Or you could just add based on findings.
Feik: Based upon findings of the staff report.
Blackowiak: Okay, there's been a motion. Is there a second?
Sacchet: I second that.
Feik moved, Sacchet seconded that the Planning Commission recommends denial of the
variance for the use of more than 15 percent EIFS based on the findings in the staff report.
All voted in favor, except Slagle, Claybaugh and Lillehaug who opposed, and the motion
carried with a vote of 4 to 3.
Blackowiak: Okay, the motion carries 4-3.
Sacchet: Is that a carry?
Blackowiak: Yes.
Generous: It matches the recommendation.
Sacchet: Recommendation to council, okay.
Blackowiak: Okay. These darn signs. You know what, I'm just going to keep it as one vote and
recognizing that there is a difference of opinion and for example I personally would like 2 but not
3, but just recognizing that there's a difference of opinion, I'm just going to keep it separate.
Otherwise you could have so many possible permutations and combinations, I don't even want to
go there. So I'd like a motion for the signage variance please.
Sidney: Madam Chair, I'll make the motion the Planning Commission recommends denial of
signage in excess of 20 feet in height on the building based on the findings in the staff report.
Blackowiak: Been a motion. Is there a second?
Feik: Second.
Sidney moved, Feik seconded that the Planning Commission recommends denial of signage
in excess of 20 feet in height on the building based on the findings in the staff report. All
voted in favor, except Slagle who opposed, and the motion carried with a vote of 6 to 1.
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Blackowiak: Okay, the motion carries 6-1. Now, back to site, don't we have to do.
Sacchet: Condition 4.
Slagle: Why do we need to do?
Blackowiak: We pulled the signage.
Generous: It would normally have to comply.
Blackowiak: But it's no longer a condition because we pulled it. We pulled number 4 out,
correct.
Aanenson: Right.
Blackowiak: So now we have to vote on condition number 4 for the site plan, correct?
Claybaugh: Well that's per code anyways. The reason the condition was there because of the
extenuating circumstances. Those have been removed.
Blackowiak: Right, but I mean I want to make sure that the condition is back in and that signage
comply.
Sacchet: We can amend, right?
Aanenson: Yes...motion.
Blackowiak: Add this? Okay, so we'll add.
Sacchet: So I make the motion that the Planning Commission adds condition 4 of the site plan
#2002-9 as it was proposed by staff.
Blackowiak: Okay, been a motion. Is there a second?
Feik: Second.
Sacchet moved, Feik seconded that the Planning Comnfission adds condition number 4
which reads, signage shall comply with the Villages on the Ponds design standards and city
code, to Site Plan #2002-9. All voted in favor, except Slagle who opposed, and the motion
carried 6-1.
Blackowiak: Alright, we muddled through that one. This item goes before the City Council on
December 94. Thank you. Yes and Commissioners, do we want to leave plans and hard copies
up here?
Aanenson: Yes.
Blackowiak: Okay, why don't we all leave those.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Con'nnissioner Slagle noted the Minutes of the Planning
Commission meeting dated October 15, 2002 as presented.
CITY OF
PC DATE: November 19, 2002
CC DATE: December 9, 2002
REVIEW DEADLINE: 12/17/02
CASE #: SPR 2002-9
By: RG, LH, ML, MS, JS, ST
STAFF
REPORT
PROPOSAL: Request for site plan approval for a three-story, 70,873 square foot building cons~stlng
of underground parking, approximately 14,300 square feet of street level commercial (with restaurant
and retail space) and 2 stories with 76 hotel and meeting rooms. Additionally, variances are
necessary to permit wall signage above.20 feet on the building tower and the north and west ends of
the building and to permit the use of Exterior Insulting Finishing System (EPS) for more than 15
percent of the building exterior.
LOCATION:
Northwest comer of Lake Drive and Main Street
APPLICANT:
Bruce Bissonnette
Truman Howell Architects & Associates
17815 Hutchins Drive
Minnetonka, MN 55345
(952) 401-7889
Northcott Inn & Suites
250 Lake Drive East
Chanhassen, MN 55317
(952) 294-5100
PRESENT ZONING': Planned Unit Development, PUD 2020 LAND USE PLAN: Mixed Use
ACREAGE: 2.713 acres
DENSITY: F.A.R. 0.6
SUMMARY OF REQUEST: The applicants are requesting site plan approval for a three-story
building containing street level retail and commercial uses with hotel rooms (total of 76 units) and
meeting and conference facilities.
Notice of this public heating has been mailed to all property owners within 500 feet.
LEVEL OF CITY DISCRETION IN DECISION-MAKING:
The City's discretion in approving or denying a site plan is limited to whether or not the proposed
project complies with Zoning Ordinance requirements. If it meets those standards, the City must then
approve the site plan. This is a quasi-judicial decision.
The City's discretion in approving or denying a variance is limited to whether or not the proposed
project meets the standards in the Zoning Ordinance for a variance. The City has a relatively high
level of discretion with a variance because the applicant is seeking a deviation from established
standards. This is a quasi-judicial decision.
~,S tate
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PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
The development is located within the Villages on the Ponds, a mixed-use development. The site
was rough graded as part of the overall development. The property is located within Sector I of
the Villages on the Ponds development. The proposed development consists of a three-story
building containing street level retail and commercial uses with hotel rooms and meeting and
conference facilities on the second and third floors (total of 76 rooms). The commercial
component will be a restaurant and multi-tenant lease space. The primary parking for the project
is located underground and in the interior of the lot. Some on-street parking is also available
along Lake Drive, Main Street and Pond Promenade, which are all private streets. Within
Villages on the Ponds there are existing cross access and cross parking agreements that permit a
portion of the parking to be located off site. Parking requirements in excess of those specifically
provided on site are through shared parking.
The primary building material consists of clapboard siding and shake shingles in Navajo White,
Sky Gray, Juniper Blue and Yellow (29% of the wall material), Van Dyke white, for upper
stories, and French Toast tan, for first floor, sandpebble textured EI:FS (26 % of wall material)
with a base and entrance area of Oak colored breakoff block (6% of wall area) and Mountain red
brick (6% of wall area). The use of EIFS exceeds the 15 percent maximum coverage permitted
by the Design Standards for Commercial, Industrial and Office-Institutional Development.
Windows represent the single largest wall material encompassing 33 percent of the total wall
area. Shake shingles are incorporated as the face material on the dormer ends of the roof. The'
roof is grayish-black asphalt shingles. A tower element is introduced above the main entrance at
the intersection of Main Street and Lake Drive. Colonial Red, standing seam metal roofs are
incorporated at the tower and as some of the entrance canopies. Teal green and Buttercup yellow
fabric awnings cover some of the first floor windows. The applicant is proposing signage
integrated into the tower as well as at the ends of the building which is above 20 feet. A sign
band from 12 - 20 feet in height runs along the face of the' building adjacent to Main Street and
Lake Drive. Signage above 20 feet in height is not in keeping with the pedestrian character for
this sector of Villages and requires a variance from the design standards.
Staff believes that the architectural design generally meets the standards established as part of the
Villages on the Ponds. However, to further differentiate the building and create additional
northern European vernacular, staff recommends that the three window groupings located below
the shake dormers be replaced with three, six-panel windows. This will reiterate the storefront
windows at street level and provide additional architectural interest to the building. Additionally,
staff recommends that additional differentiation 'be provided around the windows in the flat
roofed sections of the building. This could be done through the use of window accents, such as
plant boxes, shutters, balconies, decks, grates, canopies, awnings, recesses, embrasures, arches,
lunettes, and different types of windows, such as bay, multi-paned, angular, square, rectangular,
half-round, round, Italianate.
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Staff is recommending approval of the site plan subject to the conditions of the staff report. Staff is
recommending denial of the variance for the use of more than 15 percent EIFS and denial of the
variance for the signage height based on the findings in the staff report.
BACKGROUND
On October 14, 2002, the Chanhassen City Council approved the final plat for Villages on the
Ponds 7th Addition creating one lot for the Presbyterian Homes Senior Campus.
On April 8, 2002, the Chanhassen City Council approved the following amendment to the
Villages on the Ponds Design Standards:
d. Development Site Coverage and Building Height
5. The following table shall govern the amount of building area for the different
uses'
Commercial/
Office/Service Institutional Dwelling TOTAL
Retail (sq. ft.) (sq. ft.) (sq. ft.) Units sq. ft.
Sector I 104,640 83,500 0 160 188,140
Sector II 60,000 14,000 0 0 74,000
Sector I51 0 0 134,000 0 134,000
Sector IV 0 0 0 162 0
TOTAL 164,640 97,500 134,000 322 396,140
Building square footages may be reallocated between sectors and between uses subject to
approval by the Planning Director, with the intent not to increase the total traffic load. The
following factors shall be used in calculating the reallocation of building square footages
between uses:
1 Residential apartment unit = 3 congregate care (assisted living or dementia) units.
1 Residential apartment unit = 2 elderly (independent) units.
1 Residential apartment unit = 360 square feet of office/service.
1 Residential apartment unit = 90 square feet of retail.
1 Residential apartment unit = 440 square feet of institutional.
950 square feet of office/service = 1,000 square feet of institutional.
300 square feet of retail = 1,000 square feet of office/service.
290 square feet of retail = 1,000 square feet of institutional.
In no instance shall additional institutional building square footage be reallocated without an
amendment to the PUD.
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On November 26, 2001, the Chanhassen City Council approved an amendment to the Villages on
the Ponds Design Standards, Development Site Coverage and Building Height,
The maximum building height shall be Sector I - four stories (residential with street level
commercial or office)/50 ft. (retail and office buildings without residences above shall be limited
to three stories/40 ft.) except for the lot on the comer of Promenade Pond and Great Plains
Boulevard shall be limited to two stories and 30 feet, Sector 11 - three stories/40 ft., Sector Ill -
three stories/40 ft., and Sector IV - four stories/50 feet. Building height limitations are exclusive
of steeples, towers, and other architectural and roof accents.
And
The following table shall govern the amount of building area for the different uses:
Commercial/ Office/Service Institutional Dwelling TOTAL
Retail (sq. ft.) (sq. ft.) (sq. ft.) Units sq. ft.
Sector I 114,500 83,500 0 160 198,000
Sector II 60,000 * 14,000 0 0 74,000
Sector llI 0 0 100,000 0 100,000
Sector IV 0 0 0 162 0
TOTAL 174,500 97,500 100,000 322 372,000
* Includes 47,200 square foot, 106-Unit motel.
Building square footages may be reallocated between sectors and between uses subject to
approval by the Planning Director, with the intent not to increase the total traffic load. The
following factors shall be used in calculating the reallocation of building square footages
between uses:
1 Residential apartment unit = 3 congregate care (assisted living or dementia) unit.
1 Residential apm~[ment unit = 2 elderly (independent) unit.
1 Residential apartment unit - 360 square feet of office/service.
1 Residential apartment unit = 90 square feet of retail.
1 Residential apartment unit = 440 square feet of institutional.
950 square feet of office/service = 1,000 square feet of institutional.
300 square feet of retail = 1,000 square feet of office/service.
290 square feet of retail - 1,000 square feet of institutional.
In no instance shall additional institutional building square footage be reallocated without an
amendment to the PUD.
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6. Buildings adjacent to pedestrian sidewalks must have commercial/office on the
majority of the street frontage.
On August 13, 2001, the City Council approved an amendment to the Villages on the Ponds
Development Design Standards pe~Tnitting a drive through window as a conditional use on Lot 1,
Block 1, Villages on the Ponds 2nd Addition.
On September 13, 1999, the City Council approved PUD #95-2 granting Final Plat approval for
Villages on the Ponds Sixth Addition, creating one lot. This is the site for the Lake Susan
Apartment Homes development (Site Plan #99-9).
On June 28, 1999, the City Council approved PUD #95-2 granting Final Plat approval for Villages
on the Ponds Fifth Addition, creating one lot and one outlot. This site is for the Foss Swim School.
On June 28, 1999, the City Council approved PUD #95-2 granting Final Plat approval for Villages
on the Ponds Fourth Addition, creating one lot and two outlots. This site is for the Peddler Cyclery,
a.k.a., Bokoo Bikes.
On May 1 l, 1999, the City Council approved the final plat for Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the
Ponds 3rd Addition subdividing Outlot D and pa~1 of Outlot E, Villages on the Por~ds.
On September 23, 1997, the city granted Final Plat approval for Outlot C into Lots; 1 'and 2,
Block 1, and Outlot A, Villages on the Ponds 2nd Addition.
September 12, 1997, enter into sub-recipient agreement with AUSMAR to construct the
improvement spelled out by the Metropolitan Council's grants.
May 19, 1997, enter into Livable Communities Act Grant agreement with the Metropolitan
Council for the provision of public realm improvements and affordable housing in Villages on
the Ponds ($500,500.00).
February 24, 1997, enter into Transit Capital Financial Assistance Grant with the Metropolitan
Council for the provision of a transit facility within Villages on the Ponds ($190,000.00).
On September 23, 1996, the City Council approved PUD 95-2, Villages on the Ponds, including
a Comprehensive Land Use Plan amendment from Office/industrial, Institutional, Residential
Medium Density, Residential Low Density to Mixed Use-Commercial, High Density Residential,
Institutional and Office; Preliminary planned unit development for up to 291,000 sq. ft. of
commercial/office buildings, 100,000 sq. ft. of institutional buildings, and 322 dwelling units;
Rezoning from IOP and RSF to PUD, Planned Unit Development (final reading); and final plat
dated "Received September 19, 1996" for two lots and ten outlots and public right-of-way.
On August 12, 1996, the City Council granted preliminary approval of PUD #92-1 including a
Comprehensive Land Use Plan amendment from Office/industrial, Institutional, Residential
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Medium Density, Residential Low Density to Mixed Use-Commercial, High Density Residential,
Institutional and Office; Preliminary planned unit development for up to 291,000 sq. ft. of
commercial/office buildings, 100,000 sq. ft. of institutional buildings, and 322 dwelling units;
Rezoning from lOP and RSF to PUD, Planned Unit Development (first reading); Preliminary plat
for 13 lots and 3 outlots and public right-of-way; Wetland Alteration Permit to fill and excavate
wetlands on site; Vacation of right-of-way and easements; Environmental Assessment Worksheet
(EAW) findings of Negative Declaration of the need for additional environmental investigation;
and Indirect Source Permit Review for the Villages on the Ponds project.
APPLICABLE REGULATIONS
Chapter 20, Article ri, Division 3, Variances
Chapter 20, Article II, Division 6, Site Plan Review
Chapter 20, Article XXIII, Division 7, Design Standards for Commercial, Industrial and Office-
Institutional Development
Villages on the Ponds Development Design Standards
GENERAL SITE PLAN/ARCHITECTURE
The proposed development consists of a three-story building containing street level retail and
commercial uses with hotel rooms on the second and third floors (total of 76 rooms) and meeting
and conference facilities. The commercial component will be a restaurant and multi-tenant lease
space. The primary parking for the project is located underground and in the interior of the lot.
Some on-street parking is also available along Lake Drive, Main Street and Pond Promenade,
which are all private streets. Within Villages on the Ponds, there are existing cross access and
cross parking agreements that permit a portion of the parking to be located off site. Parking
requirements in excess of those specifically provided on site are through shared parking.
The primary building material consists of clapboard siding and shake shingles in Navajo White,
Sky Gray, Juniper Blue and Yellow (29% of the wall material), Van Dyke white, for upper
stories, and French Toast tan, for first floor, sandpebble textured EIFS (26 % of wall material)
with a base and entrance areas of Oak colored, breakoff block (6% of wall area) and Mountain
red brick (6% of wall area). The use of EIFS exceeds the 15 percent maximum coverage
permitted by the Design Standards for Commercial, Industrial and Office-Institutional
Development and, therefore, requires a variance. Windows represent the single largest wall
material encompassing 33 percent of the total wall area. Shake shingles are incorporated as the
face material on the dormer ends of the roof. The roof is grayish-black asphalt shingles. A tower
element is introduced above the main entrance at the intersection of Main Street and Lake Drive.
Colonial Red, standing seam metal roofs are incorporated at the tower and as some of the
entrance canopies. Teal green and Buttercup yellow fabric awnings cover some of the first floor
windows. The applicant is proposing signage integrated into the tower as well as at the ends of
the building which is above 20 feet. A sign band from 12 - 20 feet in height runs along the face
of the building adjacent to Lake Drive and Main Street. Signage above 20 feet in height is not in
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keeping with the pedestrian character for this sector of Villages and requires a variance from the
design standards.
ARCHITECTURAL COMPLIANCE
Size portion Placement
The building entries are highly defined, including having the main entrances oriented on a
different plane from the building elevations and having canopies, recesses and projections. The
building elevations are highly articulated with numerous openings, change in materials,
projections and recesses in the building fagade, and incorporation of various window treatments
and styles. The ground level of the multi-story building is visually distinct from the upper stories
through the use of different building materials as well as incorporation of signage bands, window
treatments and ledges. As stated previously, staffs only concern is that additional detail be
provided with the windows.
Material and detail
The building materials are high quality materials including brick, block, clapboard siding and
EIFS. However, EFIS, an accent material, may occupy up to 15 percent of the buildings facade
on commercial buildings. The developer is proposing the use of 26 percent EIFS as a building
material. The building exteriors are highly detailed with various visual elements of interest.
EIFS has been used extensively within Villages on the Ponds.
Color
Building colors are harmonious and complementary. Highlights are incorporated with awning
materials and contrasting colors. Staff recommends that the overhead doors at both the garage
entrance and trash storage be painted a similar color to the sun'ounding material.
Height and Roof Design
Building height is limited to 3 stories or 40 feet for non-residential buildings and 4 stories and 50
feet for residential buildings. Pitched roofs shall have a minimum roof pitch of 1 foot of rise to
every 4 feet of run. Each building has multiple pitched elements. Mechanical equipment is
screened behind parapets on the west and north ends of the building.
Facade transparency
Street frontages are presented with 66 percent storefront windows and entrances. The design
standards require that 50 percent of the first floor elevation that is viewed by the public shall
include transparent windows and or doors. All other areas shall include landscaping material and
architectural detailing and articulation
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Site Furnishing
The overall development includes many community features such as planting boxes, tables and
chairs, landscaping, lighting, and benches incorporated in the overall street hardscape. Due to
site topography, there is a terrace/veranda rising three feet on Lake Drive. A patio with tables
and chairs is proposed on the west end of the building. The developer shall be required to install
the streetscape in compliance with the streetscape plan approved for Villages on the Ponds,
including benches (two on Lake Drive and two on Main Street), brick pavers and planter boxes.
The developer shows landscape islands with pedestrian ramps on the landscape plan, but not on
any other plan. The applicant shall revise all plan sheets to incorporate the landscape islands
within the parking lot.
Loading areas, refuse area, etc.
Screening of service yards, refuse and waste removal, other unsightly areas and truck
parkin~loading areas are accomplished by locating them to in the interior of the building. The
trash enclosure is located within the first story on the north side of the building adjacent to the
restaurant.
Landscaping
Landscaping complies with the city's design standards and conforms to the overall landscaping
plan for villages on the ponds. Proposed landscaping meets and exceeds minimum requirements
as outlined in the overall landscape plan for the Villages on the Pond PUD development. Total
landscape area and tree quantities for the vehicular use area is satisfactory
Staff recommends that all landscape islands and peninsulas be a minimum of ten feet wide. Staff
also recommends that evergreens be located outside of sight triangles.
Lot Frontage and Parking location
The buildings are pushed toward the street frontages within the project as required by the
Villages on the Ponds design standards. Public spaces are created to the front of tall the building
and between the two buildings.
Villages Proposed
Interior Side Lot Line 0' N- 76, E - 12, S - 10, W - 115
The following summary table tracks the building area and type of uses envisioned, developed and
proposed within Villages on the Ponds.
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Project
Permitted
Commercial Office/Service Residential Institutional
(sq. ft.) (sq. ft.) (units) (sq. ft.)
164,640 97,500 322 134,000
Lake Susan Apartments
Bokoo Bikes 5,018 6,077
Foss Swim School 9,800
Houlihan's 7,362 81
Culvers 4,768
Building 4 (Bell Mortgage) 7,425 7,425
Building 17 (not built) 30,000
Americlnn 44,013 1,492
Americlnn (expansion) 6,870
St. Hubert's
Presbyterian Homes (not 4,500 4,500
.built)
Northcott Inn & Suites 33,580 37,293
Chanhassen Bank 11,000
Building C 9,500 9,500
Retail C-1 (future) 24,000 520
Retail G (future) 8,000 8,000
St. Hubert Expansion
TOTALS 155,036 125,688
Balance 9,604 (28,188)
Balance Equivalents
Conversion to Office sq. ft.
Conversion to Institutional
Conversion to Commercial
162
69
Date Bldg. Sq. Ft.
Approved C/O/Ins.
54
4O
92,478
6/28/1999
6/28/1999
6/14/1999
5/11/1998
9/24/2001
9/22/1997
8/11/1997
2/24/1997
12/9/1996
11/26/200
1
41,522 4/8/2002
11.095
9 800
7 443
4 768
14 850
30 000
45 5O5
6 870
92 478
9 000
7O,873
11,000
19,000
24,520
16,000
41,522
325 134,000 414,724
(3)
32,013 NA (1,080)
33,117 (29,672) (1,320) NA
NA (8,456) (270) -
Balances after conversion
for deficits 878 0 0 0
GRADING/DRAINAGE/EROSION CONTROL
The current plan is proposing a 3-story building with underground parking. The project will
involve grading the site to prepare the building pads and parking lots. The Parking lot and
building drainage will be collected by a system of catch basins within the parking lot and route
the drainage to an existing storm pond west of the lot. A private easement will be required for
the sto~Tn sewer which runs off site to the west. The underground parking does not show how it
will drain but the entrance drainage will be routed to an existing storm sewer along Lake Drive
East southwest of the lot. Storm sewer sizing calculations will be required prior to building
permit approval.
Proposed erosion control consists of silt fence around the perimeter grading limits of the site.
Staff is recommending that Type 2 silt fence be used. Also, existing catch basins around the site
perimeter must be protected from construction-related sediment through the use of filter bmTiers
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(see City Detail Plate No. 5302). The rock construction entrance is required to be a minimum of
75 feet in length.
The applicant will be required to obtain all necessary permits from the appropriate regulatory
agency including but not limited to the Watershed District, MPCA, etc.
UTILITIES
The plans propose on connecting to the existing utility stubs. Installation of the private utilities
for the site will require permits and inspections through the City's Building Department. There
is an existing gas main in the drive labeled "Unnamed Road" on the plans. CenterPoint Energy
Minnegasco is requesting that a private utility easement be created in this corridor to protect the
natural gas facilities before final platting.
The proposed building is subject to city sanitary sewer and water hook-up charges at the time of
building permit issuance. The current 2002 trunk utility hook-up charges are $1,383 per unit for
sanitary sewer and $1,802 per unit for water. In addition, since the property is within the Lake
Ann sewer district, a sewer interceptor charge of $1,057 per unit and a sub-trunk charge of $866
per unit is also due. All of these charges are based on the number of SAC units assigned by the
Met Council for the building.
STREETS
The plans propose on utilizing the two existing accesses off of "Unnamed Road" from the west
and off of Pond Promenade from the north.
MISCELLANEOUS
Following is a summary of site coverages that have been approved within the development. This
table represents the amount of impervious surface that will be present in the development.
Description
Site Area (acres)
Ameficlnn 3.5
St. Hubert's 8.0
Outlot A (private 3.4
streets)
Outlot B (Village 3.7
Pond)
Outlot H 7.5
(wetlands/Rice Marsh
Lake)
Outlot L (wooded 2.3
knoll)
Impervious Area
Percent Impervious
0 0
0 0
0 0
(acres)
2.1 60
5 62
3.2 95
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Bell Mortgage 1.2 0.86 72
Building
Bokoo Bikes 0.63 0.5 80
Foss Swim School 0.56 0.49 88
Houlihan 1.35 0.94 68
Building 17 (not 1.3 0.85 65
constructed)
Culvers 0.94 0.49 52
Lake Susan 9.9 3.5 36
Apartment Homes
Presbyterian Homes 5.11 2.5 49
Building C/Bank- 3.19 2.66 83
Office (includes
Outlots A & B)
Northcott Inn & 2.713 2.35 87
Suites
Total 54.69 26.27 48.0
LI GHTIN G/S I GNA GE
The applicant is proposing wall lighting that will shine both up and down on the building. City
code requires that lighting have a 90 degree shutoff angle to avoid excess night sky lighting.
Staff recommends that the building lighting be revised to shine downward only. The applicant
will also be providing parking lot lighting. Lighting in Villages on the Ponds should be
consistent throughout the development. A shoe box fixture (high pressure sodium vapor lamps)
with decorative natural colored pole shall be used throughout the development parking lot area
for lighting. Decorative, pedestrian scale lighting shall be used in plaza and sidewalk areas and
may be used in parking lot areas. The maximum height of light fixtures in the parking lot is 30
feet. All fixtures must be shielded with a total cutoff angle of 90 degrees or less.
Building signage consists of a sign band that runs from 12 to 20 feet above grade. This sign band
is designed to accommodate many different styles and types of signage as outlined in the
development design standards. This sign band is in keeping with the location and intent of the
design standards, which are to provide pedestrian scale. The location of letters and logos shall be
restricted to the approved building sign bands, the tOps of which shall not extend greater than 20
feet above the ground. The letters and logos shall be restricted to a maximum of 30 inches in
height. All individual letters and logos comprising each sign shall be constructed of wood, metal,
or translucent facing.
The applicant is proposing signage in the tower that is 541/2 feet above the ground. Additionally,
signage which is 27¼ feet above grade is proposed at the west end of the building. Both of these
signage areas require city approval of a variance. Staff is opposed to the granting of variances for
these signs. Signage above 20 feet in height is not in keeping with the pedestrian character for
this sector of Villages. There is ample opportunity within the designated sign bands on the
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building to adequately provide for the uses. The letters and logos shall be restricted to a
maximum of 30 inches in height. All individual letters and logos comprising each sign shall be
constructed of wood, metal, or translucent facing.
SITE PLAN FINDINGS
In evaluating a site plan and building plan, the City shall consider the development's compliance
with the following:
(1)
Consistency with the elements and objectives of the City's development guides,
including the Comprehensive Plan, official road mapping, and other plans that
may be adopted;
(2) Consistency with this division;
(3)
Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing
tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the
general appearance of the neighboring developed or developing or developing
areas;
(4)
Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5)
Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with
special attention to the following:
a,
An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and
provision of a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general
community;
b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
Co
Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of
the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and
neighboring structures and uses; and
do
Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives
and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public
streets, width of interior drives and access points, general interior
circulation, separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement
and amount of parking.
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(6)
Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision
for surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers, preservation of views, light
and air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations
which may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
Finding: Subject to the revisions contained in the staff report, the proposed site plan is
consistent with all plans and specifications and development design standards for the
Villages on the Ponds Planned Unit Development and meets site plan findings 1 through
6 enumerated above.
FINDINGS
The Board of Adjustments and Appeals shall not recommend and the City Council shall not grant a
variance unless they find the following facts:
That the literal enforcement of this chapter would cause an undue hardship. Undue
hardship means that the property cannot be put to reasonable use because of its size,
physical surroundings, shape or topography. Reasonable use includes a use made by a
majority of comparable property within 500 feet of it. The intent of this provision is not to
allow a proliferation of variances, but to recognize that there are pre-existing standards in
this neighborhood. Variances that blend with these pre-existing standards without departing
downward from them meet these criteria.
bo
Finding: The literal enforcement of this chapter would not cause an undue hardship for the
signage height or the use of EEFS on the building. In these instances, it is a matter of
preference rather than design constraints that lead to the variance requests. However, it
should be noted that a variance to permit signage in excess of 20 feet in height and 16.1
percent EEFS was approved for the Chanhassen Bank building. Additionally, both the
Bokoo Bike building and the Bell Mortgage building within the development use EIFS as a
building material in excess of 15 percent.
The conditions upon which a petition fora variance is based are not applicable, generally, to
other property within the same zoning classification.
Finding: The conditions upon which a petition for a variance is based are applicable to
other property within the same zoning classification. As staff has discussed, there are
design constraints in the project requiring the layout of the buildings to provide interior
parking spaces as well as underground parking. With the exception of parking, there are no
unique circumstances, which would lead to the need for va-iances for signage or building
materials.
C.
The purpose of the variation is not based upon a desire to increase the value or income
potential of the parcel of land.
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Finding: The purpose of the variation is not based upon a desire to increase the value or
income potential of the parcel of land, but rather to conform to the design constraints within
Villages on the Ponds.
d. The alleged difficulty or hardship is not a self-created hardship.
Finding: The alleged difficulty or hardship is not a self-created hardship for the parking
owing to the design constraints of the project. However, the variances for signage height
and building materials are self created since they are due to preferences rather than inability
to comply with ordinance.
eo
The granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to
other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which the parcel is located.
Finding: The granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public welfare or
injurious to other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which the parcel is located.
However, the intent of the signage was to provide for pedestrian scale, rather than the
typical suburban commercial center designed for the automobile.
The proposed variation will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to adjacent
property or substantially increase the congestion of the public streets or increase the danger
of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially diminish or impair property values
within the neighborhood.
Finding: The proposed variation will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to
adjacent property or substantially increase the congestion of the public streets or increase
the danger of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially diminish or impair property
values within the neighborhood.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motions:
A. "The Planning Commission recommends approval of Site Plan #2002-9, plans prepared by
Truman Howell Architects & Associates, Inc., dated October 18, 2002, for a 70,873 square foot,
three-story building consisting of street level commercial and upper level hotel rooms subject to
the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the City and provide the necessary
security to guarantee erosion control, site restoration and landscaping.
2. Site plan approval is contingent on final platting of Outlot A, Villages on the Ponds 2nd
Addition, to a block and lot designation.
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Page 15
3. Lighting shall comply with the Villages on the Ponds design standards and city code.
4. Signage shall comply with the Villages on the Ponds Design Standards and city code.
5. The exterior building lighting shall be revised to shine downward, only.
6. The overhead doors at both the garage entrance and trash storage shall be painted a similar
color to the surrounding material.
7. Each of the windows located below the shake dormers on the second and third floors shall be
replaced with six-panel windows on both the Lake Drive and Main Street building elevations.
,
Additional differentiation shall be provided around the windows in the flat-roofed sections of
the building. This could be done though the use of window accents, such as plant boxes,
shutters, balconies, decks, grates, canopies, awnings, recesses, embrasures, arches, lunettes,
and different types of windows, such as bay, multi-paned, angular, square, rectangular, half-
round, round, Italianate.
9. The developer shall be required to install the streetscape in compliance with the streetscape
plan approved for Villages on the ponds.
10. The applicant shall revise all plan sheets to incorporate the landscape islands within the
parking lot.
11. The building must be protected with automatic fire sprinkler systems.
12. The building plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the State
of Minnesota.
13.
The building must be constructed in accordance with the Minnesota State Building Code.
Note: The International Building Code will probably be adopted by the State at the time the
building is constructed.
14. An accessible route must be provided to the building, parking facilities, public transportation
stops and all common use facilities.
15. Seven accessible parking spaces must be provided on the site.
16. Accessible guestrooms must be provided in accordance with Minnesota State Building Code
Chapter 1341.
17. The building owner and or their representatives should meet with the Inspections Division to
discuss plan review and permit procedures. In particular, type of construction and allowable
area issues need to be reviewed and discussed.
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November 19, 2002
Page 16
18. A 10-foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e., street lamps, trees,
shrubs, bushes, Qwest, Xcel Energy, cable TV and transformer boxes. This is to ensure that
fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to
Chanhassen City Ordinance #9-1.
19. All radius tums shall be designed to accommodate the turning of Chanhassen Fire
Department's largest apparatus. Submit radius tums and dimensions to the Chanhassen City
Engineer and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for review and approval. Pursuant to 1997 Uniform
Fire Code Section 902.2.2.3.
20. Additional fire hydrants will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact
location.
21. A PIV (Post Indicator Valve) will be required on the fire water line coming into the building.
Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location.
22. "No parking Fire Lane" signs will be required as well as curbing to be painted yellow.
Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing to be painted
yellow. Pursuant to 1997 Uniform Fire Code Section 904.1.
23. The builder must comply with water service installation policy for commercial and industrial
buildings. Pursuant to Inspection Division Water Service Installation Policy #34-1993.
24.
The builder must comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division
regarding maximum allowable size of a domestic water line on a combination water sprinkler
supply line. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy #36-
1994.
25. The builder must comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division
regarding premise identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Division Policy #29-1992.
26. With referencing proposed restaurant, the builder must comply with the Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Division policy referencing cooking equipment exhaust hood
requirements. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy #35-
1994.
27. A private easement will be required for the storm sewer which runs off site to the west.
28. A cross-access agreement between parcels must be recorded.
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November 19, 2002
Page 17
29. Submit storm sewer design calculations for a 10-year, 24-hour storm event with drainage
flow map
30. Add the current version of the City of Chanhassen Detail Plate Nos. 3101, 3102, 3104, 3107,
3108, 5203, 5300, 5301 and 5302.
31. The applicant is responsible to obtain and comply with all regularity agency permits,
including but not limited to Watershed District, MPCA, etc.
32. Retaining walls over 4-feet in height must be designed by a registered engineer and requires
an approved fence at the top of the wall.
33. All plan sheets must be signed by a registered engineer.
34. Add a minimum 75-foot long rock construction entrance and revise the note from 50 feet to
75 feet.
35. Add a storm sewer schedule to the plans.
36. Type 2 silt fence shall be used around the grading area. Also, existing catch basins around
the site perimeter must be protected from construction-related sediment through the use of
filter baln'iers (see City Detail Plate No. 5302). ::
37. Revised the legends to match the plan drawings.
38. On the site plan, revise the dimension of the no~xh access entrance width to 26 feet.
39. Any off-site grading will require easements from the appropriate property owners.
40. On the grading plan:
Show all existing and proposed easements.
Add a benchmark.
Differentiate between existing and proposed storm sewer lines.
Show Type II silt fence around the perimeter of the grading area and Type 111 adjacent to
the pond.
Show construction rock entrance minimum of 75 feet.
Show the building basement elevation and how it will drain.
CBMH #101 must be with sump.
Show the existing and proposed storm sewer flow direction.
Show the proposed storm sewer class.
Show all existing pipe information including pipe type, slope, class and size.
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November 19, 2002
Page 18
· Designate which parking stalls are meant to be handicap accessible.
41. On the utility plan:
· Differentiate between existing and proposed utility lines.
· Add note "Any connection to existing structures must be core drilled".
· Show all existing and proposed utilities sewer type, class, size, length, flow direction,
slope.
· The existing water and sanitary stubs off of Lake Drive are shown incorrectly. Verify
locations with as-builts.
· Show the location of existing gate valves on the water service lines.
B. "The Planning Commission recommends denial of the variance for the use of more than 15
percent EIFS and signage in excess of 20 feet in height on the building based on the findings in
the staff report.
ATTACHMENTS
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3.
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5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
Findings of Fact and Recommendation
Development Review Applications
Northcott Inn Center Project Description Narrative
Reduced Copies of Development Plans
Memo from Mark Littfin to Robert Generous dated 10/31/02
Letter fi'om Steven Von Bargen, Center Point Energy,_to Robert Generous dated 10/24/02
Villages on the Ponds Development Design Standards
Architectural Review and Comment by L.A.R.C., Milo Architecture Group
Public Hearing Notice and Mailing List
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November 19, 2002
Page 19
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
FINDINGS OF FACT
AND RECOMMENDATION
IN RE:
Application of Northcott Inn & Suites for Site Plan Review for a three-story building with street
level commercial and 76 hotel rooms with variances for building materials and signage height.
On November 19, 2002, the Chanhassen Planning Commission met at its regularly
schedule meeting to consider the application of Northcott Inn & Suites for a site plan review for
the property located at the northwest comer of Lake Drive and Main Street. The Planning
Commission conducted a public heating on the proposed site plan was preceded by published
and mailed notice. The Planning Commission heard testimony from all interested persons
wishing to speak and now makes the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The property is cun'ently zoned Planned Unit Development, PUD.
The property is guided by the Land Use Plan for Mixed Use.
,
The legal description of the property is: Outlot B, Villages on the Ponds 4th
Addition to be replatted to Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the Ponds 9th Addition.
4. Section 20-110'
(1) Is consistent with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides,
including the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may
be adopted;
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November 19, 2002
Page 20
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(2) Is consistent with this division;
(3)
Preserves the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing tree
and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the general
appearance of the neighboring developed or developing or developing areas;
(4)
Creates a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5) Creates a functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with
special attention to the following:
ao
An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and
provision of a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general
community;
b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of
the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and
neighboring structures and uses; and
do
Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives
and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public
streets, width of interior drives and access points, general interior
circulation, separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement
and amount of parking.
(6) Protects adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision for
surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers, preservation of views, light and
air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations which
may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
The Board of Adjustments and Appeals shall not recommend and the City Council
shall not grant a variance unless they find the following facts:
a. The literal enforcement of this chapter would not cause an undue hardship for the
signage height or the use of EIFS on the building. In these instances, it is a
matter of preference rather than design constraints that lead to the variance
requests. However, it should be noted that a variance to permit signage in
excess of 20 feet in height and 16.1 percent EIFS was approved for the
Chanhassen Bank building. Additionally, both the Bokoo Bike building and the
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November 19, 2002
Page 21
Bell Mortgage building within the development use EIFS as a building material
in excess of 15 percent.
b. The conditions upon which a petition for a variance is based are applicable to
other property within the same zoning classification. There are no unique
circumstances, which would lead to the need for variances for signage or
building materials.
c. The purpose of the variation is not based upon a desire to increase the value or
income potential of the parcel of land.
d. The alleged difficulty or hardship for signage height and building materials are
self created since they are due to aesthetic preferences and convenience rather
than an inability to comply with ordinance.
e. The granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public welfare or
injurious to other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which the parcel
is located. However, the intent of the signage was to provide for pedestrian scale,
rather than the typical suburban commercial center designed for the automobile.
The proposed variation will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to
adjacent property or substantially increase the congestion of the public streets or
increase the danger of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially diminish
or impair property values within the neighborhood.
.
The planning report #2002-9 Site Plan Review dated November 19, 2002,
prepared by Robert Generous, et al, is incorporated herein.
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November 19, 2002
Page 22
RECOMMENDATION
The Planning Commission recommends that the City Council approve the site
plan review and deny the variances for building materials and signage height.
ADOPTED by the Chanhassen Planning Commission this 19th day of November, 2002.
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
BY:
Its Chairman
ATTEST:
Secretary
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
(612) 937-1900
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION
ADDRESS: '~'~ L.
TELEPHONE:
Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Conditional Use Permit
Interim Use Permit
Non-conformin9 Use Permit
PJ~mned Unit Development'
Rezoning
Sign Permits
Sign Plan Review
_
, ..~ Site Plan Review*
Subdivision'
Temporary Sales Permit
Vacation of ROW/Easements
Variance
Wetland Alteration Permit
Zoning Appeal
Zoning Ordinance Amendment
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Escrow for Filing Fees/Attorney Cost"
($50 CUP/SPR/VACNARAN AP/Metes
and Bounds, $400 Minor SUB)
TOTAL FEE $ 1'')--.-%~-', ~
A list of all property owners within 500 feet of the boundaries of the property must be included with the
application.
Building material samples must be submitted with site plan reviews.
-- *Twenty-six full size folded copies of the plans must be submitted, including an 81/2" X 11" reduced copy
~for each plan sheet.
Escrow will be required for other applications through the development contract
NOTE -'When multiple applications are processed, the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application.
'Ar~-[LANDS PRESENT
YES ~ NO
'This application must be completed in full and be typewritten or clearly printed and must be accompanied by all information
and plans required by applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before filing this application, you should confer with the Planning
Depot',merit to determine the specific ordinance b, nd procedural requirements applicable to your application.
A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within ten business days of application submittal. A written
ri;lice ~3f application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within ten business days of application.
ThYs is to certify that I am making application for the described action by the City and that ! am responsible for complying with
all City requirements with regard to this request, This applica!ion should be processed in my name and ! am the party whom
1he City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application. ! have attached a copy of proof of ownership (either
copy of Owner's Duplicate Certificate of-Title, Abstract of Title or purchase agreement), or I am the authorized person to make
:this applic~ion and the fee owner has also signed this application.
I w~l 'keep myseff informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I further
understand lhat additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any
aL~hOrization to proceed with the study. The documents and information I have submitted are true and correct to the best of
ray knowle~lge.
'[he city' hereby notifies the applicant that development review cannot be completed within 60 days due to pubhc hearing
requirements and agency review, Therefore, the city is notifying the applicant that the city requires an automatic 60 day
exzension for development review. Development review shall be completed within 120 days unless additional review
e..~.nsions are approved by the applY.cant.
~i.gnature ~f.~op~Jc~nt ' v- -
A~plicatiDn Received on /C~.-/f~--£; 2 Fee Paid
Date
Date
Receipt No.
'The applicant should contact staff for a copy of the staff report which will be available on Friday prior to the meeting.
If n~t contacted, a copy of the report well be mailed to the applicant's address.
NORTHCOTT HOSPITALITY INTERNATiONAL, LLC
250 LAKE DRIVE EAST
CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
Te/: 952-294-5100 Fax: 952-294-5101
October 18, 2002
City of Chanhassen
Planning Commission & Council Members
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 5531 7
Re:
Northcott Inn Center
Project Description Narrative
Dear City Council & Planning Commission Members,
Northcott Hospitality International (NHI) respectfully submits the attached site
plan for approval by the City of Chanhassen, Minnesota. The site is located on
the Northwest corner of Lake Drive and Main Street, south of Houlihan's
Restaurant and east of Bokoo Bikes. NHI develops and operates hotels and
restaurants nationally and is the franchisor of the Americlnn ® Lodging System.
NHI currently operates the Americlnn ® lodging facility and the Houlihan's
restaurant in Chanhassen from their corporate office building in Chanhassen at
250 Lake Drive East. NHI feels there is a need in the Chanhassen Villages On
The Pond community for a multi-tenant mixed use building, consisting of
boutique enhanced lodging with a mixture o~: suites, extended stay, enhanced
rooms, multi-tenant retail and meeting space. The lodging portion of the project
will be the first of NHI's new Northcott Inn & Suites lodging concept. We at NHI
feel that locating the first property of this new concept near our corporate
headquarters is in keeping with our long term commitment of operating quality
business properties within the community of Chanhassen. This project has its
own unique design character in keeping with the "Village" image of the Villages
on the Pond. The accompanying site plan submittal meets the needs that NHI
has identified as well as those of the Villages on the Pond.
The project is a mixed use multi-tenant project consisting of retail and hospitality
lodging. The retail designated space includes meeting rooms (within the hotel
portion of the building) as well as mixed use multi-tenant retail space including a
possible upscale restaurant concept. The project includes an underground
parking facility for the hotel lodging customers. This will contribute greatly to
freeing up the surface parking area for use by the remaining building businesses.
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
RECEIVED
OCT 1 8
CHANHA$SEN PLANNING DEPT
The exterior building fagade has a mixture of architectural elements in keeping
with the vibrant image of the Village. We have allowed for a central corridor from
the Main Street and Lake Drive intersection to the site parking area to enhance
the ease of pedestrian traffic.
We respectfully submit this project for approval and look forward to working with
the City towards a successful completion of another quality Northcott project in
Chanhassen.
kClarey ~'-~
Vice President of-Construction
7700 Market Blvd.
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Robert Generous, Senior Planner
FROM' Mark Littfin. [:ire Marshal
DATE:
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October o I, ~00_
SUB J:
Request for a sire plan approval for a 3 sto~% 70,873 square foot
commercial buiiding consisting of a 76 unit hotel, a restaurant
and multi-tenant retail space with variances for signage and building
materials on 2.7 acres of property zoned PUD, Bruce Bissonnette,
Northcott Inn and Suites.
Planning Case: 2002-9 Site Plan Review
(60-day review deadline 12-17-02)
I have reviewed the site plan for the above project. In order to comply with the
Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division, I have the following fire code or
city ordinance/policy requirements. The site plan is based on the available information
submitted at this time. If add ilional plans or changes are submitted, the appropriate code
or policy items will be addressed.
I .
A 10-foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e., street lamps,
trees, shrubs, bushes, Qwest; Xcel Energy, cable TV and transformer boxes. This
is to ensure that fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by
firefighters. Pursuant to Chanhassen City Ordinance #9-1.
.
All radius turns shall be designed to accommodate the turning of Chanhassen Fire
Department's largest apparatus. Submit radius tums and dimensions to the
Chanhassen City Engineer and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for review and approval.
Pursuant to 1997 Uniform Fire Code Section 902.2.2.3.
3. Additional fire hydrants will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location.
4. A PlY (Post Indicato,: Valve) will be required on the fire water line coming into
the building. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location.
' . ,.,ov, n or, ~. thriving businesses. ;'.,edino trails, and beautiful parks. A g~'a~ place l0 live. work, and play.
The City of Chanhassen · A gro;','.ng ccmr".'~r,¥,",',qh c~ean lakes, qua!if,' schools, a charming r~ , ' ~ ~ ....
Mr. Robert Generous
October 31, 2002
Page 2
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"No parking Fire Lane" signs will be required as well as curbing to be painted
yellow. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing
to be painted yellow. Pursuant to 1997 Uniform Fire Code Section 904.1.
.
The builder must coml-.,ly with water service installation policy for commercial
and industrial building:;. Pursuant to Inspection Division Water Service
Installation Policy ,._~4- 1993. Copy Enclosed.
.
The builder must comply wil:h the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Division regarding max/mum allowable size of a domestic water on a
combination water sprinkler supply line. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevent/on Division Policy #36-1994. Copy Enclosed.
The builder must comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Division regarding premise identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prev~,'ntion Division Policy #29-1992. Copy Enclosed.
.
With referencing prot-~o,~;ed restaurant, the builder must comply with the
Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention D/vision policy referencing cooking
equipment exhaus~ hood requirements. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prex:e~'~rion Division Policy #35-1994. Copy Enclosed.
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CITYOF
CH HASSE
, CenterDrive, PO Box 147
Minnesota 55317
_Phone 612.93Z 1900
GeneraI Fax 612.93Z5739
· Fax 612.937.9152
, Fax 612.934.2524
Web www. ci. chanhassen, mn. us
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIZE OF DOMESTIC WATER SERVICE ON A
COMBINATION DOMESTIC/FIRE SPRINKLER SUPPLY LINE
1. Domestic water line shall not be greater than ¼ pipe size of the
combination service water supply line.
2. 1 ½" domestic off 6" line.
3. 2" domestic off 8" line.
4. 2 ½ domestic off 10" line.
Option 1:
Option
Domestic sizes may be increased if it can be calcUlated hydraulically that
the demand by all domestic fixtures will not. drop the fire sprinkler water
below its minimum gal!onage required. ;~ :' . . i.
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:2:
Combination domestic and fire line service shal1 have an electric
solenoid valve installed on the domestic side of the serviCe. This
valve shall be normally powered open and'close on loss of electric,
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power or signal from the system water flow indicator. .
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Must be approved by the Chanhassen Fire Marshal and :Chanhassen
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Chanhassen Fire Department
Water Line Sizing '
Policy #36-1994
Date: 06/10/94 .
' Revised: 1'1/24/99.
Mechanical Inspector.
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT
FIRE PREVENTION BUREAU
7700 MARKET BLVD. PO BOX ]47
CHANHASSEN, MN 553] 7
(952) 227-1150
FAX: (952) 227-1190
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMF~NT POLICY
COOKING EQUIPMENT EXHAUST HOOD REQUIREMla;NTS
Revised 6/12/02
FraE PROTECTION
A. Where Required:
B,
C.
1)
On commercial cooking equipment, when grease-laden vapors are produced.
If an), cooking device under an exhaust hood produces grease-laden vapors,
then the entire hood must be protected.
Type of Protection:
1)
2)
When building is fully sprinklered, the hood system must be a sprinklered
system.
In non-sprinklered buildings, any U.L. listed system is acceptable.
When extinguishing agent is released, hood exhaust must'
1)
Be shut down; gas to cooking equipment must be shut down; and electricity
to grease producing heating appliances must be shut down.
2) Gas and electricity must be manually reset after automatic shutdown.
Commercial Kitchen Hoods 35-1994
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CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT
FIRE PREVENTION BUREAU
7700 Market Blvd BOX 147
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
(952) 227-1150
FAX: (952) 227-1190
CH A NHA~q~qEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POI.ICV
pREMI~qE~q IDENTIFICATION
Revised 6/10/02
Numbers or addresses shall be placed on all new and existing buildings in such a position
as to be plainly visible and legible from the street or road fronting the property. Said
numbers shall contrast with their background. Size and location of numbers shall be
approved by one of the following - Fire Marshal, Fire Inspector, Building Official,
Building Inspector.
Requirements are for new construction and existing buildings where no address numbers
are posted.
Other Requiremenl.~ - General
1. Numbers shall be a contrasting color from the background.
2. Numbers shall not be in script.
3. If a structure is not ~isible from the street, additional numbers are required at the driveway entrance.
Size and location must be approved.
4. Numbers on nmil box at driveway entrance nmy be a nfinhnum of 4". However, requirement #3 must still
be met.
5. Administrative authority nmy require additional numbers ff deemed necessary.
Residenti:~l Re~!uirements (2 or le~ dwelling unit)
1. Minilnum height shall be 5 inches.
2. Building permits will not be finaled unless numbers are posted and approved by the Building Department.
Commereinl Ren?irement.~
1. Minilnum height shall be 12".
2. Multi-Tenant Buildings
a. Building address range, mini~num height of 12 inches.
b. Address numbers required on all tenant doors. Mininmin height of 6 inches.
3. If address nmnbers are located on a directory entry sign, additional numbers will be required on the
buildings nmin entrance.
4. Signage on overhead/delivery doors will also be required.
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT
FIRE PREVENTION BUREAU
7700 MARKET BLVD. PO BOX ]47
CHANHASSEN, MN 553] 7
(952) 227-1150
FAX: (952) 227-1190
WATER SERVICE INSTALLATION POLICY
FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAI J BUILDINGS
Revised 6/12/02
1) The Inspections Division shall be responsible for issuance of permits
No permit shall be issued until approval of plans have been obtained
from the following:
a) Engineering Department
b) Fire Marshal
c) Minnesota Department of Health
d) Plumbing Inspector
2)
Mechanical inspectors ,,,,,ill do all installation inspections and witness
the
hydrostatic and conductivity tests. Call (952) 22% 1180 to schedule an
inspection.
Inspection and Test Requirements
a) All pipes shall be inspected before being covered. Phone (952)
22% 1180, to schedule inspections. A 24 hour notice is required.
b) Conductivit5, test is required. The pipe shall be subjected to
minimum 350 amp test for a period of not less than 5 minutes.
c) Hydrostatic test required. All pipe shall be subjected to a
hydrostatic pressure of 150 PSI for 2 hours. Allowable pressure
drop shall not exceed 1 PSI.
d) Pipe shall not be run under buildings - NFPA 24, 8-3.1.
3)
Upon approval of the hydro test, the plumbing inspector shall submit a
copy of the inspection report to the utility superintendent. The
inspection report shall note whether the system is ready for main flush
and drawing of water sample for the bug test.
Water Service Installation 34-1993
Page 1 of 2
4) Water main flushing shall be witnessed by the utility superintendent.
a) Watermain flushing may be scheduled by contacting the utility
superintendent at 474-2086. A 24 hour notice is required.
b) The utility superintendent shall obtain a water sample for a
bacteria test after the main flush and deliver to a testing
company. The contractor shall be responsible for testing costs.
Allow two weeks for testing results to be returned to the City.
c) Upon receiving approval of the water sample test, the utility
superintendent shall submit a copy to each plumbing inspector
and turn water on to the tested and approved sections of the piping.
5) An additional supervised flush and flow test will be required and
witnessed by the Fire Marshal for services supplying fire suppression
systems. The flush and flow test shall be performed in accordance
with 1991 edition of NFPA 13, Sec. 8-2.1. Contact the Chanhassen
Fire Marshal at (952) 227-1150.
6) Watermain installations shall comply with:
a) Minnesota Plumbing Code, Chapter 4715
b) Chanhassen Engineering Department, Watermain Specifications
c) National Fire Protection Association, Chapter 24
7) Only authorized city employees are permitted to operate city water
control valves. For water turn on or off contact the utility
superintendent by phone (952) 227-1308. A 24 hour notice is required.
Water Service Installation 34-1993 Page 2 of 2
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M/nnegasco
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Robert Generous
Senior Planner
City of Chanhassen
690 City Center Drive, P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN. 55317
700 West Linden Avenue
PO Box 1165
Minneapolis, MN 55440-1165
October 24, 2002
RE'
Northcott Inn Center
Villages on the Ponds
Dear [Vlr. Generous;
With reference to the proposed plan of Northcott Inn Center, CenterPoint Energy
Minnegasco does have an existing gas main installed in 1997 in the drive named,
unnamed road, as shown on the plans.
CenterPoint Energy Minnegasco requests that a utility easement be created in this
corridor to protect the natural gas facilities and all other utilities servicing the
properties.
Thanl< yo~ for the advance notice and please send me a copy of the final action on
this p,"opo~d vacatior',.
Respectfully,
CENTERPOINT ENERGY MINNEGASCO
Steven Von Bargen
Right-of-Vvay Administrator
EXHIBIT C
Adopted September 23, 1996
Amended August 13, 2001
Amended November 26, 2001
VILLAGES ON THE PONDS
CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA
DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS
a. Intent
The purpose of this zone is to create a mixed use PUD consisting of commercial, institutional,
office, and residential uses. The use of the PUD zone is to allow for more flexible design
standards while creating a higher quality and more sensitive proposal. All utilities are reqUired to
be placed underground. Each lot proposed for development shall proceed through site plan
review based on the development standards outlined below.
b. Permitted Uses
'The permitted uses in this zone should be limited to uses as defined below or similar uses to
those as listed in the Standard Industrial Classification. If there is a question as to the whether or
not a use meets the definition, the Planning Director shall make that interpretation. No single
retail user shall exceed 20,000 square feet on a single level of a building. A maximum of thirty-
three (33) percent of the square footage of the retail users within the developmen~ may be of a
"big box" category. The intent of this requirement is to provide a variety of users, including
small retail shops, service providers, coffee shops, cabarets, etc., for residents of the Villages as
well as the community as a whole, rather than typical suburban type large, individual users
dominating the development and detracting from the "village" character. Retail users should be
those that suppo~t and compliment the residential development located within the development,
providing goods and services which enhance residents of the village and the community.
Office. Professional and business office, non-retail activity except for showroom type
display area for products stored or manufactured on-site provided that no more than 20
percent of the floor space is used for such display and sales.
bank/credit union
finance, insurance and real estate
health services - except nursing homes and hospitals
engineering, accounting, research management and related services
legal services
Personal Services. Establishments p~Smarily engaged in providing services involving the
care of a person or his or her personal goods or apparel.
dry cleaning
beauty or barbershop
shoe repair
photographic studio
tax return preparation
laundromat
health club
optical goods
computer services
day care center
copying
mail stores
Institutional. Establishments that are public/semi-public in nature.
church
library
education services
clay care
art gallery
dance studio
cultural facility
Commercial/Retail. Establishments engaged in commercial operations including retail sales
and services and hospitality industries.
Apparel and Accessory Stores
shoe stores
electronic and music store and musical instruments
restaurant - no drive through, except on Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the Ponds 2nd Addition
through a conditional use permit and compliance with the following standards - the drive
through shall provide sufficient stacking to assure that traffic is not backed into the
parking lot drive aisles; loud speakers used for ordering shall be shielded so that noise is
not heard off-site, and the drive through shall be screened fi'om off-site views. (amended
8/13/01)
restaurant - fast food only if integrated into a building
no freestanding fast food and no drive through
drug store/pharmacy
boo,stationary
jewelry store
hobby/toy game
gift novelty and souvenir
sewing, needlework and piece good
florist
camera and photographic supply
art and art supplies, gallery
sporting goods
video rental
food stores including bakery and confectionery
hardware store
computer store
hotel/motel
entertainment
liquor store
pets and pet supplies
home furnishings
Residential. Residential units shall be provided as upper level units above the
commercial/office uses within the village core and as stand alone units. A minimum of 50
percent of the residential units shall be rental units. Of the rental units, the city has adopted
a goal of 35 percent of the units meeting the Metropolitan Council's affordable criteria. For
the ownership housing, the city has adopted the goal of 50 percent of the units meeting the
Metropolitan Council's affordable criteria.
Prohibited Uses:
Auto related including auto sales, auto repair, gas stations
c. Setbacks
In the PUD standards, there is the requirement for landscape buffering in addition to building and
parking setbacks.
The following setbacks shall apply:
Building Parking
Great Plains Blvd.: Buffer yard & Setback
Market Blvd.: Buffer yard & Setback
Hwy. 5: Buffer yard & Setback
Interior Side Lot Line: Buffer yard & setback
East Perimeter Side Lot Line (adjacent to
residential): Buffer yard & setback
West Perimeter Side Lot Line (adjacent to
industrial): Buffer yard & setback
C, 0'
C, 50'
B, 50'
NA, 0'
D, 50'
B, 50
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20'
,
50'
20
Buffer yards are as specified in the City of Chanhassen Landscaping and Tree Removal
Ordinance, Article XXV.
No fences shall be permitted between the required landscape buffer and arterial and collector
roads.
d. Development Site Coverage and Building Height
.
The PUD standard for hard surface coverage is 70% for the overall development.
Individual lots may exceed this threshold, but in no case shall the average exceed 70
percent.
More than one (i) principal structure may be placed on one (1) platted lot.
,
The maximum building height shall be Sector I - four stories (residential with street level
commercial or office)/50 ft. (retail and office buildings without residences above shall be
limited to three stories/40 ft.) except for the lot on the comer of Promenade Pond and
Great Plains Boulevard shall be limited to two stories and 30 feet, Sector II - three
stories/40 ft., Sector ]I[ - three stories/40 ft., and Sector IV - four stories/50 feet. Building
height limitations are exclusive of steeples, towers, and other architectural and roof
accents. (Amended 11/26/01)
The maximum building footprint for any one building shall be limited to 20,000 square
feet without a street level break in the continuity of the building, e.g., pedestrian
passageways, except for the church and residential only buildings.
5. The following table shall govern the amount of building area for the different uses:
Commercial/ Office/Service Institutional Dwelling
TOTAL sq. ft.
Retail (sq. ft.) .(sq. ft.) (sq. ft.) Units
Sector I 114,500 83,500 0 160 198,000
Sector II 60,000 * 14,000 0 0 74,000
Sector III 0 0 100,000 0 100,000
Sector IV 0 0 0 162 0
TOTAL 174,500 97,500 100,000 322 372,000
(amended 11/26/01)
* Includes 47,200 square foot, 106 unit motel.
Building square footages may be reallocated between sectors and between uses subject to
approval by the Planning Director. The following factors shall be used in calculating the
reallocation of building square footages between uses:
1 Residential apartment unit = 3 congregate care (assisted living or dementia) unit.
1 Residential apartment unit -- 2 elderly (independent) unit.
1 Residential apartment unit = 360 square feet of office/service.
1 Residential apartment unit = 90 square feet of retail.
1 Residential apartment unit = 440 square feet of institutional.
950 square feet of office/service = 1,000 square feet of institutional.
300 square feet of retail = 1,000 square feet of office/service.
290 square feet of retail = 1,000 square feet of institutional. (amended 11/26/01)
In no instance shall addition institutional building square footage be reallocated without an
amendment to the PUD.
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Buildings adjacent to pedestrian sidewalks must have commercial/office on the majority
of the street frontage. (amended 11/26/01)
e. Building Materials and Design
,
The PUD requires that the development demonstrate a higher quality of architectural
standards and site design. The intent is to create a pedestrian friendly, "traditional"
village character consistent with the European heritage of the upper midwest and the
atmosphere within this development, yet with the amenities and technological tools of
modern times. The village elevations shown on the PUD drawings are to be used only as
a general guideline and the reflection of the overall village image including the north-
midwestern architectural vocabulary, village like human scale and flavor, and variety in
design and facade treatment.
.
All materials shall be of high quality and durable. Major exterior surfaces of all walls shall
be face brick, stone, glass, stucco, architecturally treated concrete, cast in place panels,
decorative block, cedar siding, vinyl siding in residential with support materials, or
approved equivalent as determined by the city. Color shall be introduced through colored
block or panels and not painted block or brick. Bright, long, continuous bands are
prohibited. Bright or brilliant colors and sharply contrasting colors may be used only for
accent purposes and shall not exceed 10 percent of a wall area.
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Block shall have a weathered face or be polished, fluted, or broken face. Exposed cement
("cinder") blocks shall be prohibited.
.
Metal siding, gray concrete, curtain walls and similar materials will not be approved except
as support material to one of the above materials, or as trim or as HVAC screen, and may
not exceed more than 25 percent of a wall area.
5. All accessory structures shall be designed to be compatible with the primary structure.
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All roof mounted equipment shall be screened by walls of compatible appearing material.
Wood screen fences are prohibited. All exterior process machinery, tanks, etc., are to be
fully screened by compatible materials. All mechanical equipment shall be screened with
material compatible to the building.
.
The buildings shall have varied and interesting detailing. The use of large unadorned,
concrete panels and concrete block, or a solid wall unrelieved by architectural detailing,
such as change in materials, change in color, fenestrations, or other significant visual
relief provided in a manner or at intervals in keeping with the size, mass, and scale of the
wall and its views from public ways shall be prohibited. Acceptable materials will
incorporate textured surfaces, exposed aggregate and/or other patterning. All walls shall
be given added architectural interest through building design or appropriate landscaping.
.
Space for recycling shall be provided in the interior of all principal or accessory
structures.
.
There shall not be underdeveloped backsides of buildings. All elevations shall receive
nearly equal treatment and visual qualities.
10.
The materials and colors used for each building shall be selected in context with the
adjacent building and provide for a harmonious integration with them. Extreme
variations between buildings on the same street in terms of overall appearance, bulk and
height, setbacks and colors shall be prohibited.
11.
Slope roof elements shall be incorporated in all structures: Sector I - minimum 70
percent of roof area shall be sloped, Sector II - minimum of 70 percent of the roof area
shall be sloped, Sector 111 - minimum of 30 percent of the roof area shall be sloped, and
Sector IV - minimum of 70 percent of the roof area shall be sloped. An exception to this
requirement are roof areas designed for human use such as decks, garden areas, patios,
etc., which will not be counted towards flat roof area.
12. The following design elements should be incorporated into individual structures:
Building Accents
Towers, silos, arches, columns, bosses, tiling, cloisters, colonnades, buttresses, loggias,
marquees, minarets, portals, reveals, quoins, clerestories, pilasters.
Roof T y_p_¢_5
Ban'ow, dome, gable, hip, flat.
Roof Accents
Cupolas, cornices, belflSes, tun'ets, pinnacles, look-outs, gargoyles, parapets, lanterns.
Accent elements such as towers, tun'ets, spires, etc., shall be excluded from the sector
building height limitation.
13.
f. Site
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Window Types
Bay, single paned, multi-paned, angular, square, rectangular, half-round, round, italianate.
Window Accents
Plant boxes, shutters, balconies, decks, grates, canopies, awnings, recesses, embrasures,
arches, lunettes.
Street level windows shall be provided for a minimum of 50 percent of the ground level
wall area.
Landscaping and Screening
All buffer landscaping, including boulevard landscaping, included in Phase I shall be
installed when the grading of the phase is completed. This may well result in landscaping
being required ahead of individual site plan approvals, but we believe the buffer yard and
boulevard plantings, in particular, need to be established immediately. In addition, to
adhere to the higher quality of development as spelled out in the PUD zone, all loading_
areas shall be screened. Each lot for development shall submit a separate landscaping
plan as a part of the site plan review process.
All open spaces and non-parking lot surfaces, except for plaza areas, shall be landscaped,
rockscaped, or covered with plantings and/or lawn material. Tree wells shall be included
in pedestrian areas and plazas.
Storage of material outdoors is prohibited.
Undulating or angular berms 3' to 5' in height, south of Highway 5 and along Market
Boulevard shall be sodded or seeded at the conclusion of grading and utility construction.
The required buffer landscaping may be installed where it is deemed necessary to screen any
proposed development. All required boulevard landscaping shall be sodded.
Loading areas shall be screened from public right-of-ways. Wing walls may be required
where deemed appropriate.
Native species shall be incorporated into site landscaping, whenever possible.
Signage
One project identification sign shall be permitted for the development at each end of Lake
Drive and at the south end of Main Street. Project identification sign(s) may also be
located at the entrances to the development(s) in Sector IV. Project identification signs
shall not exceed 24 square feet in sign display area nor be greater than five feet in height.
One project identification sign, with a maximum height of 20 feet, which may be
increased in height subject to city approval based on the design and scale of the sign,
designed as a gateway to the project shall be located at the north end of Main Street.
Individual lots are not permitted low profile ground business sign. Within Sector Ill, one
sign for the church and one sign for the school may be placed on streetscape walls. The
top of the signs shall not extend more than eight feet above the ground and the total sign
area for the signs shall not exceed 64 square feet. Pylon signs are prohibited. The sign
treatment is an element of the architecture and thus should reflect the quality of the
development. The signs should be consistent in color, size, and material and height
throughout the development. A common theme will be introduced at the development's
entrance monument and will be used throughout.
2. All signs require a separate sign pe~Tnit.
.
.
Wall business signs shall comply with the city's sign ordinance for the central business
district for determination of maximum sign area. Wall signs may be permitted on the
"street" front and primary parking lot front of each building.
Projecting signs are permitted along Main Street and Lake Drive and along pedestrian
passageways subject to the conditions below.
Signage Plan and Restrictions
Wall Signs
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The location of letters and logos shall be restricted to the approved building sign bands,
the tops of which shall not extend greater than 20 feet above the ground. In Sector II,
sign height may be increase based on the criteria that the signage is compatible with and
complementary to the building architecture and design. The letters and logos shall be
restricted to a maximum of 30 inches in height. All individual letters and logos comprising
each sign shall be constructed of wood, metal, or translucent facing.
If illuminated, individual dimensional letters and logos comprising each sign may be any
of the following:
a. Exposed neon/fiber optic,
b. Open channel with exposed neon,
c. Channel Letters with acrylic facing,
d. Reverse channel letters (halo lighted), or
e. Externally illuminated by separate lighting source.
Tenant signage shall consist of store identification only. Copy is restricted to the tenant's
proper name and major product or service offered. Corporate logos, emblems and similar
identifying devices are pe~n~nitted provided they are confined within the signage band and
do not occupy more than 15% of the sign area unless the logo is the sign.
,
Within Sector Il, architecturally, building-integrated panel tenant/logo sign may be
permitted based on criteria that the signage is compatible with and complementary to the
building design and architecture.
5. Back lit awnings are prohibited.
Projecting Signs
1. The letters and logos shall be restricted to the approved building sign area.
.
All wooden signs shall be sandblasted and letters shall be an integral part of the
building's architecture.
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Signage shall consist of store identification only. Copy is restricted to the tenant's proper
name and major product or service offered and such minimal messages such as date of
establishment of business. Corporate logos, emblems and similar identifying devices are
permitted provided they are confined within the signage band or within the projecting
sign and do not occupy more than fifteen (15) percent of the sign display area.
.
Projecting signs shall be stationary, may not be self-illuminated but may be lighted by
surface mounted fixtures located on the sign or the adjacent facade.
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Projecting signs shall be limited to one per tenant on street frontage and pedestrian
passageway and my not exceed six square feet. Letters shall have a maximum height of
12 inches.
.
Projecting signs shall be a minimum of eight feet above the sideWalk and shall not project
more than six feet from the building facade.
.
Plastic, plexi-glass, clear plex, or similar material projecting signs are prohibited unless
used in conjunction with other decorative materials.
o
Projecting signs may be painted, prefinished, or utilize exposed metal. Any exposed
metal shall be anodized aluminum, stainless steel, titanium, bronze, or other similar non-
corrosive or ono-oxidizing materials.
Window Signs
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Window signs shall not cover more than 25 percent of the window area in which they are
located.
2. Window signs shall not use bright, garish, or neon paint, tape, chalk, or paper.
Menu Signs
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Shall be located at eye level adjacent to tenant entries and shall not exceed 4 feet in
height.
.
Shall be used only to convey daily specials, menus and offerings and shall be wood
framed chalkboard and/or electronic board with temporary handwritten lettering. No
paper construction or messages will be permitted.
3. Menu signs shall be limited to one per tenant and may not exceed 8 square feet.
Festive Fla~s/Banners
Flags and banners shall be permitted on approved standards attached to the building
facade and on standards attached to pedestrian area lighting.
2. Plastic flags and banners are prohibited.
3. Flags and banners shall be constructed of fabric.
.
Banners shall not contain advertising for individual users, businesses, services, or
products.
5. Flags anti banners shall project from buildings a maximum of two feet.
6. Flags and banners shall have a maximum area of 10 square feet.
.
Flags and banners which are torn or excessively worn shall be removed at the request of
the city.
Buildin_o Directory
In multi-tenant buildings, one building directory sign may be peiTnitted. The directory
sign shall not exceed eight square feet.
Pole Directory Sign
.
Pole directory signs consisting of single poles with individual nameplate type directional
arrows may be located within the development.
2. Pole directory sign shall not exceed 15 feet in height.
3. Directory signs shall be a minimum of eight feet above the sidewalk.
4. A maximum of eight directory signs may be provided per pole.
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The maximum size of an individual sign shall be 18 inches long by four inches wide.
Poles shall be a minimum of 10 feet behind the curb.
h. Lighting
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Lighting for the interior of the business center should be consistent throughout the
development. The plans do not provide for street lighting. As with previous
developments, the City has required the developer to install street lights throughout the
street system.
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A shoe box fixture (high pressure sodium vapor lamps) with decorative natural colored
pole shall be used throughout the development parking lot area for lighting. Decorative,
pedestrian scale lighting shall be used in plaza and sidewalk areas and may be used in
parking lot areas.
Lighting equipment similar to what is mounted in the public street fight-of-ways shall.be
used in the private areas.
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All light fixtures shall be shielded. Light level for site lighting shall be no more than 1/2
candle at the project perimeter property line. This does not apply to street lighting.
5. Light poles shall be limited to a height of 20 feet.
.
Lighting for parking areas shall minimize the use of lights on pole standards in the parking
area. Rather, emphasis should be placed on building lights and poles located in close
proximity to buildings.
i. Parking
Parking shall be provided based on the shared use of surface parking areas whenever
possible. Cross access easements and the joint use of parking facilities shall be protected
by a recorded instrument acceptable to the city.
.
A minimum of 75 percent of a building's parking shall be located to the "rear" of the
structure and in underground garages.
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The development shall be treated as a integrated shopping center and provide a minimum
of one space per 200 square feet of commercial/retail area. The office/personal service
component shall be treated as an integrated office building and provide 4.5 space per
1,000 square feet for the first 49,999 square feet, four per thousand square feet for the
second 50,000 square feet, and 3.5 per thousand square feet thereafter. Residential uses
shall provide 1.5 spaces per unit as underground parking with visitor spaces provided as
part of the commercial/office uses. Within sector IV, visitor parking shall be provided at
a rate of 0.5 stalls per unit. Hotel/motels shall comply with city ordinance.
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Churches/schools shall comply with city ordinance, however, a minimum of 50 percent of
the paring shall be shared.
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URBAN PLANNING
ARCHITECTURE
INTERIOR DESIGN
CONSULTING
MEMORANDUM
DATE: 11/6/02
TO:
FROM:
SUBJECT:
RE:
Northcott Inn & Suites
c/o Vernelle Clayton, Lotus Realty Services
Mika Milo, AIA
Northcott Inn & Suites, V.O.P., Chanhassen, MN.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND COMMENTS BY L.A.R.C.
FOR "SITE PLAN REVIEW" BY THE CITY
1.) Material Submitted for Review
· Reduced set, 1 l"x17" dated 10/18/02, 13 sheets, including colored elevations, by T.H.A.
· Full size set, B/W, 16 sheets, dated 10/18/02, by T.H.A.
2.) Comments
2.1 Proposed uses
Proposed uses are fully consistent with the approved uses under the P.U.D. Both the Inn &
Suites and the retail component at the first floor would be a very welcome addition to the
-Village. They will further contribute to the creation of a vital, vibrant core area formed around
the Village Square, "the heart" of the Village community.
2.2
Site Utilization and Adequacy
The designated site of almost 3 acres of land is proposed for development almost exactly as
projected and approved at the P.U.D. stage. The layout of the parking, approach to the garage
and the building disposition along the Lake Drive and Main Street are perfectly appropriate and
will strengthen the pedestrian oriented concept of the V.O.P., by making the streets alive and by
"hiding" the parking behind the building forming the street frontage. The parking requirement is
met adequately between the proposed surface parking, underground parking structure and shared
parking.
The building wing along Lake Drive is shorter than envisioned in P.U.D., but that is acceptable
and needed in order to size the building according to the parking available, and also to provide
the space for the ramp leading to the underground garage. An outside restaurant seating terrace
has been extended along the Lake Drive to "hide" the ramp from view, and to further reinforce
pedestrian activities at the street level.
The pedestrian passageway coming diagonally from the "backyard" parking and terminating at
the Village Square is matching P.U.D. design guidelines. The finish floor elevations at the street
level have been properly adjusted to assure feasible maximum in accessibility to the retail doors
from both streets. The drop-off area for the Inn & Suites guests is conveniently located in the
back of the building at the passageway along the axis connecting it to the Village Square. Trash
and delivery areas are also hidden from view and with the access paths facing the backside
parking.
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2.3
2.4
Architecture, Bulk and Height
The three-story mixed-use building is stretched linearly along the streets with zero setback (per
P.U.D.) and well articulated, broken down in smaller segments, with variable roof forms and
heights. As such, it fully meets the design intent specified in P.U.D. guidelines, and it's mass
and bulk will compliment the other adjacent proposed buildings "framing" the Main and Lake
Drive streets.
At both ends, the building has fiat roof areas, contrasting the sloped roof segments flanking the
Village Square. Along the distinctly different fagade treatments, these varied roof forms further
reinforce the impression of "different" buildings developed over a period of time, a desirable
feature for the Village as mandated by P.U.D. guidelines.
The proposed tower with the sign at the top, strengthens the visual importance and location of
the Village Square, as the focal point of the entire development.
Material and Colors
There is a large variety of materials and colors proposed on presented colored elevations
tastefully assembled, and accentuated with the colorful awnings, sign-bands, cornices and light
fixtures along the street frontages.
Materials proposed are all per P.U.D. guidelines, and at the street level mostly provide higher
quality materials such as brick and stones.
Judging from the colored elevations printed, the E.I.F.S. color proposed for the flat roofed
buildings at both ends is not a pleasant one (greenish-yellow) as well as too dark and brown-
green "stone" areas at the building bases. These two colors need to be reviewed by the Planning
Department based on actual samples in order to reach a final conclusion and the direction for the
Developer. We also suggest having end-buildings in two different colors, rather than one and
the same as proposed. Aside of that, everything else looks well done and in accordance with the
Design Guidelines.
3.)
Conclusion and Recommendation
The proposed development is a very welcome addition to the V.O.P. and meets or exceeds the design
requirements set in P.U.D. documents.
Subject to further code compliance checks by the City, we highly recommend the approval for this
development proposal.
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PROPOSAL:
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2002 AT 7:00 P.M.
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7700 MARKET BLVD.
Site Plan Approval APPLICANT: Bruce Bissonnette
for Northcott Inn & Suites
LOCATION: Northwest corner of Lake
Drive and Main Street
You are invited to attend a public hearing about a proposal in your area. The applicant, Bruce
~issonnette, is requesting site plan approval for a three-story, 70,873 square foot commercial building
;onsisting of a 76 unit hotel, a restaurant and multi-tenant retail space with variances for signage and
luilding materials on 2.7 acres of property zoned PUD.
Happens at the Meeting: The purpose of this public hearing is to inform you about the applicant's
uest and to obtain input from the neighborhood about this project. During the meeting, the Chair will lead
public hearing through the following steps:
Staff will give an overview of the proposed project.
!. The applicant will present plans on the project.
~. Comments are received from the public.
l. Public hearing is closed and the Commission discusses the project.
uestions and Comments: If you want to see the plans before the meeting, please stop by City Hall during
hours, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. If you wish to talk to someone about this project,
~lease contact Bob at 227-1131. If you choose to submit written comments, it is helpful to have one
;opy to the department in advance of the meeting. Staff will provide copies to the Commission.
,Iotice of this public hearing has been published in the Chanhassen Villager on November 7, 2002.
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ATTN: CONTROLLER
12001 TECHNOLOGY DR
EDEN PRAIRIE MN
55344
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250 EAST LAKE DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
LAKE SUSAN AP?,EO, TMENT ttOMES LL(
11455 VIKING DR
EDEN PRAIRIE MN 55344
NORTHCOTT COMPANY
250 EAST LAKE DR-
CHANHASSEN MN
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WARM WATER POOI.S I..LC
6121 BAKER RD
MINNETONKA MN 55345
CHURCH OF ST HUBERT
8201 MAIN ST
CHANHASSEN MN
55317
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NORTHCOTT COMPANY
250 EAST LAKE DR
CHANHASSEN *'IN
55317
RONALD A & S,'M~LY T KING &
MARK & DEBRA EKLO-SENIOR HSG
5100 EDEN RD SUITE 106
EDINA MN 55436
CHCR LLC
450 POND PROMENADE
CHANHASSEN MN
55317
SILO I LLC
200 HWY 13 W
B URNSVILLE
MN
55337