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1993 07 16 e CHANHASSEN SENIOR COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING JULY 16, 1993 Chairman Billison called the meeting to order at 9:30 a.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Bernice Billison, Sherol Howard, Selda Heinlein, Jane Kubitz, Mark Littfin, Sr., Albin Olson and Barbara Montgomery MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Sharmin Al-Jaff, Planner I APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Howard moved, Montgomery seconded to approve the agenda with the following change by Sharmin Al-Jaff: Deleting item Item 7, Update on the Blandon Foundation, until the next meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Howard moved, Littfin seconded to approve the Minutes of the Senior Commission dated June 18, 1993 as amended on page 1, changing the name of Helen Nelson to Nielsen. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. UPDATE ON SENIOR LINKAGE LINE (SLL). e Al-Jaff: Well, we've been in operation for a month now and I am very pleased to say that we've had 17 calls. To think that this is a very new program. I personally believe that that is a very good number. There are, we do have 3 volunteers. Betty Bragg is one of the volunteers is that of the Senior Linkage Line, which is nice to see that she is still involved with programs that take place in the Chanhassen Senior Center. I haven't received an outline of what those calls were in regard to. I know there was one on housing. And I know that there was one on driving classes. 55 and Above. But I'm not aware of what type of calls the other ones were so hopefully by next meeting I will have a breakdown. Montgomery: Are they logging those calls Sharmin? Al-Jaff: Oh yes they are. Oh absolutely. It's one of the requirements. Another thing. I met with Watertown's City Administrator. We were at school together so that really helped. He was going to meet with the seniors in this community so I gave him the phone number for Senior Linkage Line. The stickers and requested that he distribute it to everybody and he was extremely impressed with the program. So we're trying as much as possible to get the program up and running. It is running but we still need to advertise it. We need to get to the senior population that's in the county. e e senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 2 Howard: Now it's my understanding, Wednesday I was there both morning and afternoon and no one was there and the calls then get transferred to Minneapolis, is that right? And it's answered through there? AI-Jaff: Correct. Julie Bentz, one of the features that we have on our line is call transfer. Anytime we don't have somebody, the calls would automatically transfer to Minneapolis to Julie Bentz' office. And Julie gets many calls from Carver County. It's amazing. It's really amazing. Which tells us that there is a need for information and referral. If people keep contacting us, then we definitely need that service. It's not just seniors that are calling. It's young adults that have questions about their parents and trying to get some advice about what to do. So that's encouraging. That's very encouraging. So the program is working out beautifully. We still need additional volunteers. It's going to take some more time. We need more volunteers for the program. So if you know anybody that's interested in volunteering a few hours a day. e Billison: What would be the minimum number of hours that a volunteer? AI-Jaff: If they could spend one morning a week. Howard: Three. I think they're in 3 hour stints. Like 1:00 to 4:00, aren't they? AI-Jaff: Yeah. Or in the morning, the 9:00 til noon shift. Whichever. And they would be trained. Couple of days is how long it would take for the training. And then the computer is a lot of fun. I mean it's real easy to get the information because it's such a simple system. So if anybody is interested, by all means. If you know of anyone that would be interested, then please inform them to contact. Kitty is on vacation but while she's gone they could either talk to myself or Dawn. And once she's back, she will probably do the training for those people. She is such a wonderful, wonderful person. We've been extremely lucky to have her directing the site here in Chanhassen. She's an absolutely wonderful person. e e Senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 3 Montgomery: When will she be back Sharmin? AI-Jaff: In a couple of weeks. Montgomery: So you'll both be gone then? e AI-Jaff: I will, I can be reached. It's not going to be a problem. I will be leaving my number and I will be in touch for sure. If I'm not here, like I said, Dawn. Right now Kitty is downstairs in the Senior Center and I asked Dawn if she would want to be Kitty's supervisor because she's going to be in so much contact with Kitty than I would. I'm upstairs and really isolated from the Senior Center and Dawn didn't object to that at all. So she is aware of everything that Kitty is doing. And she's working out wonderful. Just great. Always keeping us updated and posted on everything that she does. People that are working with here really enjoy her and she doesn't let things slip through the cracks. Very organized. Makes me and Dawn upset. Because I don't know, I mean she's got everything, everything organized and perfect and she'll never forget anything. She is wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. But I am so glad, so glad that we got her. When we first offered the position to Phyllis and we told Kitty that we're sorry, we have to offer it to someone else. That's when she made the plans to go to, she's taking the Amtrak to, I believe it's Colorado with her kids and then I believe it was 2 weeks later that we contacted her and said, Kitty we want to offer you the job if you're still interested. She said Sharmin I've got one problem. I bought tickets and I have a vacation planned and I can't walk out of it now. And at that point I said, go on your vacation. Montgomery: I would think that it would be in September for instance that the calls would really pick up as all the organizations get in gear again after the summer. AI-Jaff: Correct. Correct. I believe that by the end of September we will have calls regularly. Another thing, all of the volunteers, and correct me if I'm wrong but aren't all of the volunteers at the Senior Center, the ones for Senior Linkage Line, aren't they all from Chanhassen? e e e e senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 4 Howard: Well, who are the ones besides Lola and Betty? Who's the third one? AI-Jaff: Helen isn't it? Howard: Well Helen's a paid volunteer. Yeah, they all live in Chanhassen. Billison: Were there any questions you'd like to ask about the Senior Linkage Line? I know that's why you're here principally to hear about it. Audience: ...The one thing I'm wondering, have you tried having some of the Church Boards...have you ever tried to do that? Howard: We've tried a number of times to get information out to the churches. Both through the center and through the commission, have we not? Billison: We have. Audience: I'm thinking about... Howard: I think it's been done. Our church puts in anything, the information that's given, they will put it in our bulletin. They have done so. When Kitty went to him and told him about the Answer Line, they immediately wrote up and had a very nice article in the bulletin. We might have some of those little stickers available at churches. That's an idea. I don't know exactly where but. Billison: Does anyone have a sticker here that we could. Kubitz: Well there was some discussion about having a card, more like a business card to hand out too. Howard: The stickers are so handy. Kubitz: That's so you know what the sticker is for. All it is is a telephone number. e e e Senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 5 Howard: I think it says Linkage Line on it. Montgomery: But it doesn't describe what it is. Heinlein: No, it doesn't give the total information. It gives basics but not complete. Kubitz: Yeah, a business card could have a little bit more information. Al-Jaff: Well, there is information that we normally hand out with that sticker that explains what the Linkage Line is. And on my phone I have an AT&T sticker. 10 years could pass by and I would still call that number and I know it's AT&T and I will use it if I have a problem with my phone. And I'm sure Senior Linkage Line, anytime you have a problem in your mind regarding just information on seniors, you know that. You'll be able to link it, believe me. Howard: I think so. Montgomery: Are there more of those stickers available? Al-Jaff: Oh yes. Oh yes. We've got quite a few left. We're handing them out at the Senior Center, if anybody is interested. They can have them. Like I said, I gave quite a few to the Administrator of Watertown because I wanted them to be aware that the program is there. It's up and running and please use it. Montgomery: It takes time. Al-Jaff: Yeah. We are getting calls from Carver County. It's not just Chanhassen. But the rest of the County. They are calling. Billison: That means the word is getting around. Al-Jaff: So that's encouraging. That's very encouraging. Littfin: Has Kitty contacted all the churches? e e e senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 6 AI-Jaff: That I don't know. Littfin: She probably has. AI-Jaff: I really don't know. I can't answer that. Montgomery: I know I found the perspectus had some kind of a grant, reaching all kinds of low income people. I think it's low income, women in Chanhassen. Or I guess it's just rural. I guess it isn't low income. ~t was rural women. And so I suggested to Kitty that she ~alk to the women and I think they did get together. I don't know whether anything came from that but I thought there might be then some requests from the younger women about their parents, you know if they were aware of the service. I don't know whether, how that came out. She said she had a meeting arranged but I don't know what happened. AI-Jaff: I'm going to wait until she comes back to talk to her about that. Howard: I think we titled, Do You Have Post it places like the Senior Center. could have a poster or something made perhaps an Aged Parent, and list the information. on a library door. People don't come into But different places like that in town. AI-Jaff: That's a good idea. Or we can have it upstairs. Howard: upstairs when people come in to pay their utility bills. AI-Jaff: Absolutely. Absolutely, we can definitely do that. Billison: Good. It seems like we covered everything on that. UPDATE ON SENIOR HOUSING. AI-Jaff: We had a meeting with McCombs Group. It was Paul Krauss, Don Ashworth, myself and two representatives from McCombs Group. We were discussing the financing. And after 2 hours of debating what is the best way, everything basically that presented wasn't, I knew wouldn't be satisfactory to the Commission so I was just saying, this won't work. This won't e e e senior Commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 7 work. This won't work and I shot holes basically in everything that they presented. So finally they said okay, what would work. And I told them, I said the Commission, I said each member on the Commission should be able to live in the Senior Housing. Also, each person that doesn't have an income should be able to live there. They said well what do you mean. There should be units that would be market rate and there should be other units that would be below the market rate. And that's where we need to figure out what is market rate and what is. Howard: Who would pick up the slack? AI-Jaff: That's how the financing package would work. That's something that the city would have to figure out and that's why we've hired this group to figure it out for us. Montgomery: Did they not seem to get the idea in the first place? AI-Jaff: So they're going to come back and present us with a package that will work. Montgomery: I know Paul was very adamant about wanting low income availability. AI-Jaff: Oh absolutely. There should be. Howard: You have a percentage. AI-Jaff: Correct. And no one would know where those units are. Howard: What type of percent would be the low income? AI-Jaff: Well, it wouldn't be, that's another thing. We need to study more the demographics of Chanhassen. Would we need 50%? Howard: How much? AI-Jaff: Would we need 50%? We don't think so. See, that's the whole thing. We don't believe that we're going to need 50%. e e e senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 8 Should we do it with a first come, first serve basis? All of those things we need to figure out. Howard: This would be a sliding scale type thing for those who need it. Olson: What about, would residents, if they could fill it up with residents of Carver County or Chanhassen. Chanhassen basically. Al-Jaff: Well we couldn't say it's only open for Chanhassen residents. Olson: We can't do that? Al-Jaff: No. That would be discrimination. Howard: Would they be shown preference? Al-Jaff: We can't do that. Howard: Even on the sliding scale where you're picking up some of the costs? Al-Jaff: Can you tell someone. Howard: From other communities? You'd have everyone from inner Minneapolis coming here. Al-Jaff: Sherol, if somebody comes in to the Senior Center and says, and you have, we have a limit of 55 people. Okay, and you had someone from Minneapolis in the Senior Center and all of a sudden somebody from Chanhassen came. Would you tell the person from Minneapolis to please get out so that the person from Chanhassen could come in? Howard: No. But if they're both there and they're both the 55th, I think that the Chanhassen person should be shown preference. e Senior Commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 9 AI-Jaff: Okay. I don't know what the legal ramifications for this is. I truly believe it's first come, first serve basis. I can't answer that question. Howard: But you wouldn't publicize it this way. AI-Jaff: No. And I'm quite confident that, let's say I live in Chanhassen and I was looking for a place for my mother to live. My mother lives in Mankato. I would probably look at bringing her here. Now it's because I want her to be closer to me, and this is just an example. Kubitz: Well that is reasonable Sharmin in that if you have an aging parent that you want close to you, you still have a Chanhassen connection for that person. Al-Jaff: Okay. I don't know what the legal ramifications are. Truly, I can't answer that question. Kubitz: ...figures that they'll come out here out of the clear blue with no connection whatsoever, that's another story. e Audience: May I ask a question? AI-Jaff: Absolutely. Audience: Wouldn't the financing have something to do? I mean financing in terms of Chanhassen. That's coming from the State of Minnesota. That's coming from wherever. Wouldn't this proportionately...? AI-Jaff: Yes. If I understand the question right. So what you were saying is, should it be one of the reasons why a person should enter into the building or not. Audience: Well yes. That would have something. In other words, if...resident of Carver County was giving x amount of dollars, then that proportion as opposed to...But I don't know. We're not the first ones here...senior highrise in Excelsior. How do they do that? e e senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 10 Al-Jaff: I don't know how the financing of the one in Excelsior was done. However. Audience: How did they determine who occupied it? Howard: They have an income ceiling. Al-Jaff: The one in Chanhassen, so far our intentions are to use local dollars to build this. To purchase the land. Finance the entire thing. Audience: You're talking about local dollars, Carver County or Chanhassen? Al-Jaff: Chanhassen. Howard: Then it should be for Chanhassen people. Billison: That's what I would think. Olson: That's what I feel. e Al-Jaff: Well, no. There's another thing. We have a building here in Chanhassen. Heritage Park Apartments. There are 62 units in there. 12 out of those units are subsidized. No one knows where they are. No one can go and identify them. They're open to anybody. I mean they're not just open to Chanhassen residents only, and if you think of who lives in an apartment, it's people that are moving from one place to another and they need a place before they can settle down in a home. I realize that the situation with seniors is different. But, and I don't now what the law says but I can guarantee you that there are legal issues if you tell a senior no, you can't come here. That would be my guess. I would have to talk to the city Attorney but. Audience: Well if you're saying that Excelsior... Al-Jaff: That's what we would do here too. e e e e Senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 11 Audience: And there you pay...because they have too much or too little. AI-Jaff: Well, we don't want that to happen. Howard: We're not going to have that. As I understand it, we will not have a limit. In Excelsior you may not have over I believe it's either $17,000.00 or $19,000.00. If you've over that, you cannot live in the building. We are not going to have that limit. We might have a sliding scale for the subdize it sounds like. AI-Jaff: Most places have a 30% of the income. And that's another thing that we're, we don't want to force anybody to liquidate any investments that they might have. We want to be able to provide housing at a reasonable price, and even the market rate units shouldn't be outrageously expensive. Nothing at the, I mean we visited some areas and yes, they were beautiful units but the rent was $1,000.00 and I don't believe that this is what we want to do. We want nice facilities but at a reasonable price and regardless of how much a person has in savings or money, I mean they shouldn't be forced to spend every single penny that they have on rent. At least these are our thoughts. And I believe that this, I mean our thoughts came from you. Every meeting I've had with the Senior Commission, these are the, this is how I was interpretting every single thing you've been saying. Am I correct? Heinlein: I think that's what we've been saying. AI-Jaff: Okay. And at our last meeting with the finance group, that was the message that we related to them. And they said that they will work a package out and then bring it back to us. Montgomery: begin with? Well, they didn't have that understanding at all to That seems strange. AI-Jaff: They did but they were, some of the things that they brought in were 100% low income and we're talking poverty low income. I said, where are you going to find them? Where are you going to find poverty level seniors in Chanhassen? e senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 12 Howard: They didn't get that idea from us. Montgomery: No, they certainly didn't. AI-Jaff: And then, what was the other one. Oh, the second one was a mix of all ages. That's not what we want. We want senior housing only that's open to market rate as well as low income. Montgomery: Are we still paying for all the hours they spent with the wrong premise? AI-Jaff: No. I don't believe so, no. No. We have so much that we're giving them to complete a certain package. Howard: Is there any development on land purchase? Or any decision been made about? AI-Jaff: still the negotiations are taking place. So no. I mean nothing formal. Billison: Is the general consensus in the affirmative? 4It AI-Jaff: Yes. Yes, but there hasn't been any, there are some land use issues. One of the issues is, they want to put a gas station on the corner of CR 17 and West 78th. It would be similar to maybe a Brooks. So it's not a big, big gas station. It's more of a mini mart. Kubitz: How many of those do you need in this city? You've got enough of them. AI-Jaff: That's going to be, I mean we're talking across the street from Target. Believe me, that's going to be a hot spot. So these are things that we need to work out first. And no one has come in with a proposal and the zoning, as it stands right now, allows that type of use. It doesn't allow senior housing but it's no problem. I mean we could amend. Howard: Well that...with the part we want, on CR 17. Billison: No, that shouldn't... e e e e Senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 13 Al-Jaff: Can we look at the map behind you? Right there. I'll show you. Kubitz: That land goes from Kerber to CR 17 doesn't it. Al-Jaff: Okay, here is City Hall... (There was a tape change at this point in the discussion.) Olson: ...within 2 1/2 blocks. Howard: You don't walk? Lazy. Olson: All the people I know do not walk. Howard: I can tell by the cars parked in front of them...all over in front of my place on Sundays. Olson: Now, how far do any of you intend to walk after you go into a home? Heinlein: Well walking shouldn't be unless you're handicapped. Kubitz: There is the catch Al because seniors should be getting out and walking every day. Howard: Oh, if we get out and walk, we go down to the community center and walk around the track but we're not going to walk to the grocery. Olson: store. That's right. You're not going to walk to the grocery You're not going to walk to a restaurant. Kubitz: Well Selda is. Heinlein: I have to. You have a car. I can't. Olson: I still think the nicest area is the one on the east side of Lake Susan. If you want to walk, walk 4 blocks. e e e Senior Commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 14 Heinlein: That's far enough for me to walk right now. How far do I walk now when I walk to the center? Olson: That's what I'm saying. It's far enough that you can walk inside of the City Hall. Kubitz: Well I very often walk to the Post Office and if I were in the senior housing right here, I would walk to Festival. Or the drug store. I never ran in a car all the time until I came out here. It drives me crazy to have to jump in my car to go anywhere. I've always walked everywhere. Heinlein: I think we should be conveniently up close here and we might, if we're getting different people in, we might get more people in the senior center too. Kubitz: And you're going to have more and more seniors who are not going to be driving. Then they will have to rely on some form of... Howard: I think we have to go on this meeting or we won't finish at 10:30. Billison: I think so too. That's a good suggestion. Al-Jaff: We have 20 minutes left. Montgomery: When are they coming back with a report Sharmin? Al-Jaff: them by brought because until a Well, hopefully very soon. I'm expecting to hear from August. And I mean some of the options that they before us, I wouldn't even consider bringing it to you it's not what you want to see. So I'm going to walk good package comes in. Then I'll bring it before you. Montgomery: I hope they have somebody who's knowledgeable about senior issues involved in this. Al-Jaff: Oh absolutely. Absolutely. This is just the financing issues right now and I'm glad, I'm really glad Don Ashworth is involved in this. In the financing part of it, as well as Paul. e senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 15 I mean you've got two heads that work very well in financing and you will, when Don gets involved you usually get a good package. Montgomery: Glad you were there. AI-Jaff: I was watching them in action and it was just interesting. I was just saying, they present something and I look at them and say, no. This is not going to work. Billison: Shall we go on? UPDATE ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS. AI-Jaff: And the saga continues. This time the census is, we have to do, you now the background with the house that we're going to incorporate into Chanhassen from Hennepin County. Well, what they're saying in Washington is that we have to change the census, and it's a very lengthy procedure so that the census would reflect that there is one house that is in Hennepin County. Montgomery: All this red tape. 4It AI-Jaff: That is in Chanhassen. The special count requires $450.00. The application is $200.00 and that's just the beginning and I don't know. I have a feeling that we should just go put some housing in that piece in Hennepin County, even though it's industrial land and just get it over with. Montgomery: Would you still have to do that though? I suppose huh. AI-Jaff: I suppose. Howard: Possibly the census showed a residence there. AI-Jaff: No it didn't. Montgomery: That's the problem. Howard: The '90 census, nothing was there. e e e e Senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 16 Montgomery: So you still have, if you have the housing but it would be firmer. AI-Jaff: Yes. You don't believe us, come out here. But it is a saga. It truly is. And you just keep shaking your head every time. If somebody said Sharmin, define bureaucracy, this is the example I'm going to use. Red tape. Anyways, so this is where we're at with it and of course Larry Blackstad has been very, very supportive of Chanhassen. He's doing everything he can to push this procedure forward. So that's where it's at. UPDATE ON SENIOR CENTER ACTIVITIES. Howard: We thought our 4th of July was a success. Our anniversary. And we've been discussing our fall programs. We have a very full fall schedule including at least one trip and another Casino night for AI. Olson: Bigger prizes. Howard: And we're also going to start a Womens Club that will meet on alternate Mondays from the Mens Club. Beginning in September. And have programs every other time. We're going to copy what they do and see if that will work. So everything is just fine. Dawn just does a wonderful job. All we, she organizes everything and we just sit there and say that will be fine. Heinlein: Don't forget our German night. Howard: We're having a German night that, this is all advertised in the center. The 7th of August. If it fills. Now we had something scheduled for tomorrow night, a card playing night and it did not fill so it was cancelled yesterday. AI-Jaff: So what date is the German night and what time? Howard: August 7th at I believe 6:00. It's either 6:00 or 6:30. And that was entertainment and German food. And we have these things are all published in the paper and there are sign-up e e e Senior commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 17 sheets in the center and I don't know what else we can do to advertise these things so. Billison: What's the cost on the German night? Howard: I had the idea it was $7.00. Heinlein: I heard yesterday $8.00. That it had been raised $1.00. Olson: Is the trip to Murphy's Landing still on? Howard: Yes. August 17th and that still can take place. That was discussed the other day. Apparently the flooding or whatever, they anticipate by that time will be alright. Billison: Okay, is there anything else on Senior Center Activities? UNITED WAY SENIOR FOCUS GROUP. Al-Jaff: This is embarrassing because I didn't write down where the place of the meeting is going to be. But I can find out. At 10:30 on August 18th there will be a meeting. They are requesting United Way is requesting 15 seniors to please attend and discuss, I believe it's in the Senior Center. I truly apologize. I can't believe I didn't write down where the place of meeting is going to be but what they're looking at is a focus group that would discuss senior issues and then they're going to take all of that input and put it together and find out exactly what are the problems and how can they solve them. It's a discussion group but it has to be seniors only. Howard: So there it would become a part of United Way? Al-Jaff: And those will become their focus issues. And I said that I would approach the Senior commission and she if anyone would be interested. Dawn is going to approach the Senior Center as well. And it's something that you've all done before. I mean when we started working on the senior issues in Chanhassen, that's what we had. It was a focus group. e senior Commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 18 Montgomery: It just seems like a lot of duplication. Why can't they read all the reports. This has been done so many times in just the last couple of years. AI-Jaff: Maybe we can ask them to open an emergency room in Chanhassen. 24 hours. Yeah, you're right. Well, that's what they requested and I said that I would bring their message before you. Howard: These things thrive on meetings you know. Montgomery: I know. That's what is, you know come on. There's so much information it just seems to me already available through the sales and through the Metropolitan Council and through all these groups that have been collecting this stuff ad infinitum. Howard: Through the focus group that they had before the Commission organized. Did they keep meeting Minutes and everything? You were on that weren't you? Montgomery: On the task force, yeah. ~ Kubitz: They didn't have Minutes. Howard: They didn't have Minutes? AI-Jaff: Yes. Montgomery: Oh yes we did. AI-Jaff: Yeah, we have them. They're not verbatim Minutes. Montgomery: No, but we had a very thorough report. AI-Jaff: Oh absolutely. Howard: That report would talk about the senior issues in Chan. AI-Jaff: I have a copy of the report. e e e e senior Commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 19 Heinlein: I have a stack of papers there I've tied up but I haven't thrown any of them out yet. Kubitz: It isn't 7 years. They aren't outdated yet. Montgomery: Do you know what day that is? Oh here. A1-Jaff: Yes, it's August 18th. Montgomery: What day of the week is that? A1-Jaff: That's a Wednesday. Montgomery: Well I don't know, I might be able to go if I knew where it was and could get there. A1-Jaff: Okay, well I need to find out where the location of that meeting is. Howard: We're having a Board meeting in the center that morning from 9:00 until 10:30 or so. Nothing was said about it's being in the senior center the other day Sharmin. It could very well be but it wasn't mentioned. A1-Jaff: Okay. Well, I'll try and find out. I'll find out. Krauss: I'm sorry to interrupt. We're negotiating on possibly some sites for senior housing. Can I borrow Sharmin for about 5 minutes? I need a copy of our housing...study. Bi11ison: One more question I wanted to ask you before you leave us and that is, now the B1andon Foundation. That's been postponed until a further date, right? A1-Jaff: Correct. Bi11ison: Okay, then we can do on. A1-Jaff: And on item number 8, there really isn't an emergency room in Chanhassen. Only during the hours of operation of the ~ I I I senior Commission Meeting July 16, 1993 - Page 20 clinic. The closest one would be in Waconia and the rest would be. Howard: Well, we'll sit and chat until you get back. AI-Jaff: Okay. Well you can discuss the Senior commission comments. Billison: We can skip up to the comments. Krauss: Sorry to do that... (There was some informal discussion going on at this point.) Billison: Can we have a motion to adjourn the meeting? Howard moved, Billison seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried. The meeting was adjourned. Submitted by Paul Krauss Planning Director Prepared by Nann Opheim