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CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 25, 2010
Mayor Furlong called the City Council meeting to order at 7:15 p.m. The meeting was
opened with the Pledge to the Flag.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mayor Furlong, Councilman Litsey, Councilwoman
Ernst, Councilwoman Tjornhom, and Councilman McDonald
STAFF PRESENT:
Todd Gerhardt, Laurie Hokkanen, Kate Aanenson, Paul Oehme, Todd
Hoffman, Greg Sticha, and Roger Knutson
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mayor Furlong: Good evening and welcome to everybody here in the council chambers and
those watching at home. We’re glad that you joined us this evening. At this point I’d like to ask
members of the council if there are any changes or modifications to the City Council agenda. If
none, then without objection we’ll proceed with the agenda as published.
CONSENT AGENDA: Councilwoman Ernst moved, Councilman McDonald seconded to
approve the following consent agenda items pursuant to the City Manager’s
recommendations:
a. Approval of Minutes:
-City Council Work Session Minutes dated October 11, 2010
-City Council Verbatim and Summary Minutes dated October 11, 2010
Receive Commission Minutes:
-Park and Recreation Commission Verbatim and Summary Minutes dated September 28,
2010
Resolution #2010-88:
b. 2011 Street Improvement Project No. 11-01: Authorize
Preparation of Feasibility Study.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS:
Derek Lee: Honorable Mayor and City Council members, my name is Derek Lee. I’m a
candidate for Carver County Sheriff and I live in Waconia. I appreciate the opportunity to come
here tonight and briefly address you. I won’t go on very long but I’ve been campaigning
throughout the county and a lot in the eastern half of the county here in Chaska and Chanhassen
and I’ve been very pleased at the response that we’ve been getting at the doors. People are really
excited and they really like the quality of life that we have here in Carver County and I think it’s
important that we keep developing partnerships and enhance that quality of life as much as we
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possibly can and the way to do that is through the town cop model that we currently have and it’s
also through contracting policing that we currently have. That’s not to say that there isn’t some
problems within both of those that we can address as we move forward throughout the, through,
if I’m elected, throughout my term and I’m looking forward to that. We’re, I’m confident that
we’ll be able to engage the citizens and the community along with the staff that we have to meet
any needs that the community may have and address those things effectively and efficiently as
we go forward and I appreciate your time. Thank you very much.
Councilman Litsey: Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Anyone else for visitor presentations this evening? Seeing none let’s move
onto the first items on our agenda.
LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIRE DEPARTMENT UPDATE.
Sgt. Peter Anderley: Mayor, council. I guess the reports and the numbers and things like that,
the only thing I’m looking at that jumps out is if you look at the burglaries. They are up. That
was due to the string of burglaries that we had with the downtown businesses that we ended up
with the 4 juvenile arrests out of. That’s the only thing that really jumped out at me when I
looked at the overall numbers for the month of September. A couple things I’d like to just
address to the public and stuff like that is Halloween’s coming up in a few days. We wanted to
make sure this is a very safe and enjoyable evening for the kids and adults alike. Make sure that
you’re watching for the extra kids out on the street. Usually they’re wearing dark clothing.
They’re out at night. They’re running across the street. Pretty excited about candy and not
sometimes looking for traffic. Make sure the kids are traveling in groups and make sure as I said
again, everybody just has a safe evening. If you need anything, you know call us. We’ll come
check it out if you find something suspicious at all. Big thing I’ll probably go and step on it
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here. I’m going to say winter parking. November 1 is right around the corner. Just remind the
citizens that you know Chanhassen does have a winter parking ordinance. No on street parking
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between November 1 and April 1 between the hours of 1:00 a.m. and 7:00 a.m. and no parking
on the streets after 2 inches of snow until it’s plowed curb to curb. Just you know make the
street for the safety of snowplow drivers to get the roads cleared and just the lowering traffic
that’s out in the city so, any more information. I notice it is on the city’s web site already.
Certainly refer to that if they have questions about the ordinance or you can give us a call and we
can try to explain it if they have any questions or concerns. Since the, shortly after the last
update we did have another daytime burglary that occurred up on Washta Bay Road. There was a
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press release that came out I believe on October 7 that hopefully most of you have seen where
we captured the 3 adult individuals that were basically in the progress of that. I was just going to
touch base if anyone had any questions about that, I’d hopefully try to answer them but again it
was up in the northern part of Chanhassen. Very good, concerned citizen observed this. Got on
the phone right away. Called 911. Got a good description of the vehicle. South Lake had a
couple of officers that happened to be monitoring on main and it was close. Gave us a hand and
one of them actually located the vehicle on Highway 7. Did a traffic stop. Located the stolen
equipment in the vehicle and matching descriptions and everything worked out well and they
have been charged with second degree burglary. So that is all I have for the month. If the
council or mayor has anything.
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Councilman McDonald: I have a question.
Mayor Furlong: Any questions for Sergeant Anderley? Mr. McDonald.
Councilman McDonald: Yeah. When we talk about the burglaries and everything, there were
quite a few that happened in downtown Chanhassen. What kind of plans are in place, what
action was taken or what action is planned to be taken to talk to the victims of those burglaries as
far as you know helping them out because I understand a lot of damage was done. In fact there
was probably more damage than burglaries but any plans in place to address that?
Sgt. Peter Anderley: You know earlier today I tried to look up and see where they were. It
complicates things a little bit being that they were juveniles as far as what information is, you
know able to released and where it is in the charging process and that type of thing. We, through
the County Attorney’s office, because they’re juveniles so it goes through the County Attorney’s
office, their victims advocate or you know the, I guess Chief Nancy Yates is one of them that we
assume would be getting a hold of any of the victims. If they haven’t heard anything or, I would
hopefully be shortly. Like I said I did try to look into it today just to kind of see if the charges
were officially charged out. Where that was going. Most of the time in a situation like this, if
everything goes and falls into place, the victims are all notified through that of what they’re kind
of a process is. Where they are as far as charging. If there’s any restitution, what that is and that
type of thing. Most the victims, that’s why when we ask when we go out to take a report, we try
to get a dollar amount of what has been damaged and how much and then I’ll get that at the
report. Unfortunately it’s not a real fast process with going to court with juveniles and that type
of thing and as soon as I can find out information I’ll certainly give the council an update on that
because I was, it was a pretty large group of victims and that, I think that probably adds into a
little bit of what’s you know, I don’t want to say stalling it but to get all the ducks in the row and
make sure that it gets charged out appropriately.
Laurie Hokkanen: If I can interject also, Beth Hoiseth has contacted each of the victims.
Obviously she doesn’t address restitution but offered to do an environmental assessment to help
them if they want to upgrade their locking mechanisms and just public safety education in
general.
Councilman McDonald: Okay. Well yeah I just wanted to bring that to everyone’s attention
because it was so large but yeah, tip of the hat to you and also to South Lake for catching the
other burglars and stuff. That was a great coup and really I think it goes to what I’m hearing
from people that they still safe within Chanhassen which is good so thank you very much for
your service and your work.
Mayor Furlong: About how many burglaries were there, do you recall?
Sgt. Peter Anderley: In the downtown area there?
Mayor Furlong: Right.
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Sgt. Peter Anderley: You know I know the one night I think we had 16 attempts and actually
like 9 or 10 good burglaries, just in the one night. I want to, I thought I heard a number of 18
that these groups were responsible for. I guess all the burglaries that were reported we’ve linked
or had an arrest. Either those individuals or we had the other group that was working that I
talked about. All of the burglaries we’ve been able to link someone to except for one in the
month of September and that one, I don’t know what the status of that one is at this point but, so
all of them have been closed out with an arrest except for one of the burglaries.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. And that comes into that, and we’ve talked about the, what’s the ratio
clear.
Councilman Litsey: Clearance rates.
Mayor Furlong: Clearance rates.
Councilman Litsey: Absolutely.
Sgt. Peter Anderley: And I think if you look on here, I want to say the number was 22 reported
burglaries for the month of September.
Mayor Furlong: Sounds like most of those were related to that.
Sgt. Peter Anderley: Yeah, most of them were the one little string that we had of all the
downtown. You know they were hitting the strip malls and just kind of going door to door
which you know obviously a lot of the businesses are very close together. They can hit quite a
few in a night.
Mayor Furlong: And I guess when, one of the things in terms of the numbers, we’re still seeing
a reduction in Part I and Part II crimes. They adjust maybe on month to month. This is just one
incident.
Sgt. Peter Anderley: Yes. If you look at the numbers, and as I said everything else is kind of
following the trends that we’ve been seeing, except for the burglaries in the month of September.
Like I said they kind of jumped up and we can account that to that one group of individuals.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. And I noticed too in the non criminal section we’re seeing an increase
month to month but also a little bit over the year in suspicious activities. Non chargeable and
that’s something that I know we talk about at National Night Out. Of encouraging people if you
see something suspicious to call 911.
Sgt. Peter Anderley: And that’s why I touched base on Halloween night too. You know
Halloween there’s a lot of costumes out there and everything like that and you know it certainly
can open things up for crimes. The other thing is you look at is the thefts from vehicles. We’ve
been kind of slow here the last month or so. We haven’t had too many. What we don’t want to
see is people getting relaxed. Not hearing about it and people start to put in the back of their
mind. They leave their purse and they leave their laptop or they don’t lock their car. Again and
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just remind them. Take that extra second to remove the valuables. Make sure you vehicle or
your garage is secure and if it’s not, you know watch out for your neighbors. If you see
something suspicious, give us a call. We certainly, I would rather come out there and find out
that it’s you know the neighbors got some friends in town and he’s out for a walk because that’s
what he does at 4:00 in the morning you know, than find out that he didn’t call in and 2 hours
later now we’re taking a burglary report or a theft report and somebody’s seen something and
just didn’t put it together but by all means give us a call. We’re, you know we’re here 24/7.
Certainly swing out and check it out. If it is something, great. If not, you know next time it will
be so.
Mayor Furlong: Very good, thank you. Any other questions for Sergeant Anderley?
Councilman Litsey: I was just going to, you’ve been filling in for the past few months and
coming back to a position you had before and I just want to thank you. You’ve done a great job.
We’ve had a lot going on during your tenure here the last few months and it’s great to have your
leadership. You’ve, like I said, done a good job in this, coming back to the city and helping us
out so thanks.
Sgt. Peter Anderley: I appreciate that. Thanks.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, just a couple of points. Really got to recognize Bob Zydowsky and our
investigative team really helped in this downtown case. Having a school liaison officer helped
us with the connection and identification of the suspects so having that connection really helped
solve this case because we had a picture but we had no idea who that individual, or individuals
were so, and that connection back to the schools helped greatly. Also want to thank the
gentleman in Washta Bay Road. I forget his name right now but Peter and I had the opportunity
to go meet with him and thank him personally for calling 911 when he heard and saw suspicious
activity at his neighbor’s house and that was, you know gave great description on the direction
the car was going and helped us solve that case so goes right back to your example. When you
see suspicious activity, give us a call and that really helped us out.
Mayor Furlong: Very good, thank you.
Councilman Litsey: Thanks.
Mayor Furlong: Chief Smallback is here with the Chanhassen Fire Department. Good evening
Chief.
Chief Roger Smallback: Good evening. Call volumes year to date we’re at 527 calls for service.
Month to date we’re at 35 calls for October. The year to date numbers are above the historical
norms. The month to date at 35, this is the first month of this year that those have dropped back
and conformed to historical norms so it’s been a busy year. No fires in October. Commercial or
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residential so that’s a bit of good news. October 3, the week of October 3 was Fire Prevention
Week. In a perfect world you would not need any fire trucks for anything but unfortunately it’s
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not that way and so we have Fire Prevention Week. The fire department, along with the Fire
Marshall’s office, takes fire prevention, Fire Prevention Week especially, very seriously. You
know you think of the fire department you think all they do is get on a truck and go out and put
out the fire. That’s not the case. There’s probably an equal or not greater emphasis on fire
prevention as opposed to fire suppression. Kind of some statistical indicators of the commitment
of Chanhassen fire fighters to fire prevention and that’s in the number of volunteer hours that
were committed during Fire Prevention Week. Fire Prevention Week, number one we ran over
1,200 school kids through a fire prevention program and Chan fire fighters committed a 135
hours of volunteer time to Fire Prevention Week. Fire Prevention Week is culminated with the
Chanhassen Fire Department Open House and there were 280 volunteer hours committed just to
the open house so that adds up to 400 plus hours of volunteer hours that were committed by
Chanhassen fire fighters to fire prevention. Any questions?
Mayor Furlong: Got questions for the Chief?
Councilman Litsey: I’ve just got to thank you for the tremendous job you do in the Fire
Prevention Week. My son’s one that comes over from Chanhassen Elementary School and even
though I’m a police officer he, you’re a tough act to follow. And he talks, it’s one of the
highlights of his time in the fall. He always looks forward to that particular outing at the fire
station, and he remembers a lot of what you say so that’s just a great, valuable thing to start at
that young age and get those ideas in their heads at that point so.
Chief Roger Smallback: Plant the ideas in the child’s head and he goes home and then he
demands the parents you know follow through with the things that we bring to them.
Councilman Litsey: I wasn’t going to talk about that part but. And also the open house is
terrific. It’s a great community event. It’s another event where it pulls people together in the
community. They can come and see what a great job the fire department does and the things that
you do and I’m glad you emphasis the prevention part of it because so much of what you do is
the preventive part of it so thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Very good, thank you. Let’s move on now to the next items on our agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDER APPROVAL OF RESOLUTIONS CERTIFYING
DELINQUENT UTILITY BILLS AND CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS.
Greg Sticha: Thank you Mayor, City Council members. This is the time of year where local
governments are given the opportunity to certify any delinquent water, sewer, storm water and
code violation, code enforcement violations to property taxes for residents, or property owners
within their city. Just kind of give you a few numbers as compared this year’s numbers to last
year’s. For utility accounts we are certifying, or proposing certification of 288 accounts totaling
$152,000 and last year it was 314 accounts totally $150,000 so the number’s pretty much
identical to last year’s amount that was certified. On the delinquent code violations, we’re
certifying, proposing to certify 9 accounts totaling just under $2,000 and last year there were 10
accounts totaling about $4,600. The residents still have the opportunity between now and
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November 1 to come in and pay their delinquent accounts before they get certified to Carver
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County or Hennepin County so they still have just over another week to come in and take care of
those delinquent accounts so just because we’re passing the certification list this evening does
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not mean we still can’t make those accounts cleared up between now and November 1 before
we actually have to get the list to Carver County. Or Hennepin County. I guess that’s all I have
in terms of input. If there’s any questions I’d certainly answer any questions that you might have
about certification of either of these. Roger, if it’s my understanding we can have one public
hearing on the two items and then pass one resolution for the two or do we have to have separate
public hearings?
Roger Knutson: You can have one hearing.
Greg Sticha: Okay.
Mayor Furlong: And I guess question of clarification. They need to clear up the amounts owed
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prior to November 1?
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Greg Sticha: November 1 is the deadline that we’ve given to them. If they walk in the door
November.
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Mayor Furlong: And November 1 next Monday correct?
Greg Sticha: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: So they have this week or a week from today to get it cleared up prior to it
going on the tax roll. Property tax statement.
Greg Sticha: That is correct.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. And every property owner’s received the proper notification?
Greg Sticha: Multiple notices. At least, at a minimum two notices so.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Greg Sticha: As well as it was, the list was certified in the local paper.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Thank you. Any other questions for staff? If not we’ll open up a public
hearing and invite all interested parties to come forward and address the council on this. Seeing
no one, without objection we’ll close the public hearing and bring it back to council. There is 9
accounts for the, I’m looking for the resolutions. Are the resolutions in here?
Greg Sticha: The resolutions were not included for some reason.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, I didn’t see that.
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Greg Sticha: The resolution would be to certify the delinquent accounts for utility bills for 288
accounts totaling $152,496.69 and to certify code enforcement violations delinquencies on 9
accounts totaling $1,976.51.
Councilman Litsey: I’ll make that motion.
Councilwoman Ernst: I’ll second that motion.
Councilman Litsey: Thank you for doing that. That was easy.
Mayor Furlong: Motion’s been made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion?
Resolution #2010-89: Councilman Litsey moved, Councilwoman Ernst seconded that the
City Council certify the delinquent accounts for utility bills for 288 accounts totaling
$152,496.69. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Resolution #2010-90: Councilman Litsey moved, Councilwoman Ernst seconded that the
City Council certify code enforcement violation delinquencies on 9 accounts totaling
$1,976.51. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDER MODIFICATIONS TO THE TAX INCREMENT
FINANCING (TIF) PLANS FOR TIF DISTRICTS 4 AND 5.
Mayor Furlong: We addressed this in the EDA but those watching the council meeting I’ll start
with a staff report please and go through it again.
Laurie Hokkanen: Okay. At the time that TIF 4 and TIF 5 plans were drafted the Office of
State Auditor was not involved in the oversight of TIF for designing your reporting
requirements. In the time since then, since the OSA took over, they now require that interest
income, both income that is earned and any interest payments that are made on bonds or any
obligations that you have in the TIF be accounted for in your annual reporting as well as your
TIF plan and TIF budget. Because TIF 4 and TIF 5 were drafted before that requirement they
did not provide for any accounting of interest. The modifications that are proposed would revise
those budgets to include both of those interest figures but would not change any of the obligation
or plans for the TIF district. The second thing that the modification would do in terms of TIF
number 4 is provide the opportunity for the council to pool some of the dollars that are available
in TIF 4 and use them for expenses that have been incurred in TIF District number 10.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Any questions? For staff. No? Okay, let’s start with the
public hearing then. We’ll open up the public hearing and invite all interested parties to come
forward and address the council on this matter. And seeing none, without objection we’ll close
the public hearing and bring it back to council for discussion. Is there any discussion? Hearing
none, let’s, is there somebody that would like to make a motion?
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Councilman McDonald: I’ll do the motion. The City Council approves a resolution adopting the
modifications to the Tax Increment Financing Plans for Tax Increment Financing Districts
Number 4 and 5-1.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilwoman Ernst: Can I interrupt for a minute? I know that I am out of order in doing this
but can we separate TIF 5 from 4 and 10? And actually I should have asked for that in the first
motion that was made. I don’t know if we can go back and amend it.
Mayor Furlong: Well let me start with this motion because a motion’s been made to, for the
changes in 4 and 5-1. So that’s a motion. I’m obligated to at least ask for a second and then if
we want to amend it we can. Is there a second to the motions that were made?
Councilman Litsey: Should we second it for discussion?
Mayor Furlong: Yes.
Councilman Litsey: I’ll second it for discussion.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. So now we’ll open the motion up for discussion. So Councilwoman
Ernst.
Councilwoman Ernst: So I would like to separate TIF Districts 4 and 10 in this proposal from
TIF District 5.
Mayor Furlong: Okay there is no modifications being made for 10.
Todd Gerhardt: 4 and 5 you mean.
Mayor Furlong: You want to separate 4 from 5-1?
Councilwoman Ernst: 5 from 4 and 10.
Mayor Furlong: Okay there are no, are there any modifications being made to 10?
Todd Gerhardt: No.
Councilwoman Ernst: Well there are no modifications but, so my point is that I want to support
5 because I know that that’s what we have to do. So aside from that, whatever we need to do but
I don’t support pulling the money from 4 to 10 and so that’s why, even though we’re not
modifying 10.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Councilwoman Ernst: I don’t know how we make that motion.
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Councilman McDonald: We come up with a separate motion for 10 at that time.
Mayor Furlong: You need to amend the current motion to exclude one of the two at this point.
To amend the current motion to exclude one of the two.
Councilman McDonald: Well no I’m just wondering if, if what Councilwoman Ernst is wanting
to do is to vote against the pooling, isn’t there supposed to be a separate motion for 10 in order to
pool so at that point you have an opportunity to discuss the merits of pooling?
Mayor Furlong: I think what I would recommend at this point, if there’s a desire. Let me just
poll the council. Is the council okay with addressing the two items separately or do we want to
keep them as a single item? Because the motion’s been made right now to keep two. Address
both 4 and 10 at the same time.
Roger Knutson: Mayor?
Mayor Furlong: Yes.
Roger Knutson: Procedurally if you wanted to divide them, or someone wanted to divide them,
they could move to divide the issues.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Roger Knutson: Which is allowed under Robert’s. Then you move to divide the issues and you
vote on that.
Mayor Furlong: On whether or not to divide.
Roger Knutson: To divide the issues.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Roger Knutson: And if that passes then you vote on the two issues separately. If it does not
pass, you vote on them as one.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. I’m sorry, Councilwoman Tjornhom.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: I have an opinion about this. We discussed this in work session and
then we also had an EDA meeting with a motion and I see no reason to change it now. It’s
changing the whole discussion and the whole issue and I don’t see a reason why we are
separating the issue now when we didn’t do it at work session and we didn’t do it at our EDA
meeting.
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Councilwoman Ernst: We didn’t talk about TIF number 5, District 5 in work session. We talked
about 4 and 10 and I asked if I could amend my motion for, at the EDA meeting when I made,
when the motion was made so that I could support TIF District 5 aside from 4 and 10.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Well I think if that’s what you want, it sounds like the proper way to do
it at this point would be to make a motion to divide the issues so Councilwoman Ernst, would
you like to make that motion?
Councilwoman Ernst: So what would that motion look, what does that look like? Do I just
make a motion to divide the issues?
Roger Knutson: Divide action on 4, from TIF 4 from TIF 5.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Councilman Litsey: Can we do that with a motion though on the, a motion that’s been
seconded?
Mayor Furlong: Yes.
Councilman Litsey: We can. Okay.
Mayor Furlong: That’s what I’m hearing so. So is that what.
Councilwoman Ernst: So I make that motion.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Alright. Is there a second to her motion to divide the issues? Okay.
Hearing none then the motion to divide fails for lack of a second. Is there any other discussion
on the motion before us? The motion, Councilwoman Ernst.
Councilwoman Ernst: Just a comment. So if they don’t make the motion to do this, it feels like
it’s putting me in a position to really not approve TIF District 5 which in reality by, I mean
legally we have to do that, is that right Roger because it’s what, it’s what the State Auditor’s
Office is requesting.
Roger Knutson: Correct.
Councilwoman Ernst: And legally I have to support that but I’m not willing to support the other
two so.
Mayor Furlong: Well and, but.
Councilwoman Ernst: It feels like a forced issue.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. I think the reason that we’re looking at modifying both of these is
because of the requirements for the State Auditor, is that correct?
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Laurie Hokkanen: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: So that’s the motivation to, that’s the impetus to make the modifications to
both.
Councilwoman Ernst: So I would support what we need to do legally on that but aside from that
I don’t support it then.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Alright. Any other discussion?
Councilman McDonald: Point of clarification. We still have to vote on transferring the money.
There will be a separate issue at some point about 10 so we’re not really supporting pooling and
using those funds today as part of this motion.
Mayor Furlong: That’s a question. Are we taking any action to transfer funds between 4 and 10
at this time?
Laurie Hokkanen: No. And there is no action on the agenda tonight that would do so.
Mayor Furlong: That would do that. So the changes allow that for a future council and EDA to
consider that.
Laurie Hokkanen: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: At a point in time in the future. Okay.
Councilman Litsey: So in essence yeah, we’re not dealing with 10 other than making it available
to a future council if they so choose and we’re doing what we’re legally obligated to do on the
other two districts so.
Councilwoman Ernst: On TIF District 4 though we’re still talking about moving the money,
right?
Laurie Hokkanen: You’re providing for the opportunity through the plan modification but
you’re not taking any action that would make that transfer happen or would obligate you to do
so. You would discuss that under a separate resolution at a future date.
Councilwoman Ernst: So how is this different from the EDA motion that was made then? Is it
the same?
Laurie Hokkanen: Yeah. The City Council has the authority to adopt the plan modifications
where the EDA was essentially recommending approval to the City Council.
Councilwoman Ernst: And that’s recommending approval and this is just to say what?
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Laurie Hokkanen: This is to say we approve the plan modification. So the.
Councilwoman Ernst: For, the plan modification for TIF 4.
Laurie Hokkanen: TIF 4 and TIF 5, which are both the same. They’re modifications to the plan
to modify the budgets to meet the OSA requirement.
Councilwoman Ernst: Well quite honestly just for clarification purposes, because it sounds to
me like there are two separate issues but they’re contained in one and I’m not sure how, what
part of this is a legal part that we have to do and what part isn’t. It’s become not clear to me.
Laurie Hokkanen: Both are plan modifications that are required to be in compliance with the
Office of the State Auditor. I feel like I should clarify. You don’t legally have to adopt these but
if you don’t adopt the budget modifications you’ll not be able to collect increment beyond what
was specified in the original budget. So you will have TIF obligations, bond payments that you
will not be able to pay with increment, which is what was originally intended but the budget
won’t match the current budget because it now has to include the interest calculations which
were not in the original budget.
Councilwoman Ernst: And we could do that. We could do that at a later date if we had more
specific information and some of the modifications that we talked about earlier with the $7
million dollars. So it isn’t like we would have to vote on that tonight.
Laurie Hokkanen: The TIF modification for TIF 4 needs to be completed by the end of this
calendar year. The modification for TIF 5 is a little bit further off but with TIF 4 you are going
to be running into the increment ceiling that was specified in the original TIF plan. So there is
some urgency to TIF number 4. As far as the $7 million dollars that we discussed, the budget for
TIF 4 includes the budget modification running through 2023 which is when the TIF district is
legally authorized to exist. We will have, we project that we will have money based on the
current increment coming in to pay off our current obligations in 2013 and then would plan to
decertify the district in 2014. That would take the action of the council at that time. Nothing
that the council is doing now is obligating that council to do that but that would be the current
plan that we’re on.
Councilwoman Ernst: Okay, so as long, I mean my recommendation would be to delay this but
obviously that’s not the case here so I would hold my vote the way it was originally then.
Because we could still vote on it at a later date with more detailed information.
Laurie Hokkanen: Without penalty you could vote on the motion, the modification for TIF 5 at a
later date. TIF 4 needs to have action if you wish for the district to remain…
Councilwoman Ernst: For the modification.
Laurie Hokkanen: Yes. The modification needs to be in place if the district is to continue and
take an increment sufficient to make the bond payments.
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Mayor Furlong: Alright, thank you. Any other discussion on the motion? Hearing none we’ll
proceed with the vote.
Resolution #2010-91: Councilman McDonald moved, Councilman Litsey seconded that the
City Council approves a resolution adopting the modifications to the Tax Increment
Financing Plans for Tax Increment Financing Districts Number 4 and 5-1. All voted in
favor, except for Councilwoman Ernst who opposed, and the motion carried with a vote of
4 to 1.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS:
Mayor Furlong: Any discussion or presentations from the council? Okay.
Councilman McDonald: It’s been a quiet week.
Mayor Furlong: Alright. I will say that the Chamber of Commerce or actually the Chanhassen
Business Council I believe is hosting a candidate forum at the American Legion tomorrow
beginning at 11:30, is that correct?
Laurie Hokkanen: Correct.
Councilman McDonald: That’s correct.
Mayor Furlong: Which will include candidates for City Council as well as a couple of the
County offices as well and the public is invited to attend. Also the Chamber will be hosting a
candidate forum for State offices on Wednesday and that’s going to be at Hazeltine. The new
Hazeltine Visitor Center. Again I believe that starts at 11:30. It will include candidates for
Minnesota State Senate and the House Districts here in Carver County and again the public is
invited to attend to hear the candidates in that. I think there’s an election this year, if I’m not
mistaken next Tuesday so obviously we encourage everyone to vote next Tuesday and to use the
time remaining, if they need it, to find out who they want to vote for. If they have questions
regarding polling places they can contact City Hall and somebody just let them, whoever
answers the phone will certainly be able to help.
Todd Gerhardt: Or the web site.
Mayor Furlong: Or the web site will have information on polling places, times and information
that’s required if somebody’s new to the area as far as registration. There is registration
available at the polling place. You just need to make sure you’re prepared when you come, to
have the correct information so. And I’m going to say thank you ahead of time to our city staff,
Karen Engelhardt and others that have been very involved in getting our City prepared for the
elections as well as all the election judges that are going to work next Tuesday and it’s a lot of
time and effort by a lot of people and we want to express our appreciation for all the work that
they do. Mr. Gerhardt, administrative presentations.
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ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS:
Todd Gerhardt: Just a quick update on roads. Erie is in the final stages. Hoping to get blacktop
down next week as we get some dry weather here and, but that utility work has been completed.
Audubon is 99% complete. There’s just a few little minor things that need to be completed out
there but the grass is down. The fabric blanket’s down where we’ve seeded. Retaining walls
have been completed. Trails in and looks great. If you’ve had a chance to drive down there to
that, it’s been good. And that’s it for road projects.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Very good. Any questions for staff?
CORRESPONDENCE DISCUSSION.
None.
Mayor Furlong: We will continue our work session items. At least some of them that were
unfinished prior to our meeting immediately following this meeting. If there’s nothing else to
come before the council this evening, is there a motion to adjourn Mr. McDonald?
Councilman McDonald moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded to adjourn the
meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. The
City Council meeting was adjourned at 7:55 p.m.
Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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