CC Minutes 2002 07 22CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 22, 2002
Mayor Jansen called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The meeting was opened with the
Pledge to the Flag.
COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Jansen, Councilman Labatt, Councilman Boyle,
Councilman Ayotte, and Councilman Peterson
STAFF PRESENT: Todd Gerhardt, Roger Knutson, Justin Miller, Teresa Burgess, and Kate
Aanenson
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Janet Paulsen
Debbie Lloyd
Alison Blackowiak
7305 Laredo Drive
7302 Laredo Drive
Planning Commission
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mayor Jansen: Under our public announcements, we don't have anything listed but I would like
to pull from our consent agenda a resolution that we're going to be approving this evening, which
is for the National Night Out for the year 2002. And just, if anything, to highlight the date of that
event is August 6th of 2002, SO I won't read the entire proclamation but we do have approximately
21 neighborhoods that were involved this last year, and that was an increase of 18 from the year
before so we do have quite a few of our neighborhoods that do participate in this event and it
involves our Carver County deputies as well as members of our own staff that go around to the
different neighborhoods and hold this National Night Out. So I did want to recognize that date as
August 6th. So why don't we then move on to the consent agenda.
CONSENT AGENDA: Councilman Boyle moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to approve
the following consent agenda items pursuant to the City Manager's recommendations:
Knob Hill Second Addition:
1) Final Plat Approval
2) Approve Construction Plans & Development Contract, Project 00-11.
Hidden Creek Subdivision:
1) Final Plat Approval
2) Approve Construction Plans & Development Contract, Project 02-09.
d. Approve Revised Easement Agreement for Parcel 9, Project 00-01.
Approve Consultant Work Order for Improvement to Lift Stations No. 1 and 10, Project
01-11.
Resolution #2002-65: Approve Proclamation Declaring August 6, 2002 as National
Night Out.
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Approve Amendment to 2002-2006 Capital Improvement Program for the Purchase of
Fire Department Radios.
Accept $1,000 Donation from Target for Safety Camp.
j. Approve Amendment to Chapter 10 of City Code Concerning Lawn Fertilizer.
k. Approval of Bills.
Approval of Minutes:
- City Council Work Session Minutes dated July 8, 2002
- City Council Minutes dated July 8, 2002
Receive Commission Minutes:
- Planning Commission Minutes dated July 2, 2002
- Park and Recreation Commission Minutes dated June 25, 2002
Approval of Termination of Access Easement and Grant of Easement Drainage and
Utility Easement, Outlot A, Kellynne Addition, David Peterjohn.
n. Approval of Easement Agreements for TH 101 Trail North.
Approval of Gambling Permit Request for St. Hubert's Church, Harvest Festival August
10-11, 2002.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
F. APPROVE CHANGE ORDER NO. 1, CHANHASSEN LIBRARY.
Mayor Jansen: Councilman Peterson, you pulled l(f) for separate discussion. Is that a brief
discussion for us to have at this time, or shall we move that to the end of the agenda as we
typically do?
Councilman Peterson: It's 2-3 minutes. It doesn't make any difference.
Mayor Jansen: Okay, why don't we address that now then.
Councilman Peterson: My only point, and I talked briefly to Todd on it this afternoon, was we're
allocating $14,000 for signage for monument bases and I'm just wondering whether that's more
appropriate, we've had discussions with the City Center Park and signage there, that if we do this
monument we're defining probably what all the signs in that area are going to be like. I don't
know whether or not it's prudent for us to wait so that we have a contiguous sign, kind of feel for
that whole area. I'm opening that up for discussion basically. The second thing was, as I talked
to Todd, we're removing the item PR1SK118. We don't need the heater post for city vehicles as
we discussed today, per his recommendation.
Mayor Jansen: Okay. The conversation around the monument sign bases, is that not the same
individual that's doing the signs in the park? Is that being coordinated through our landscape
architect?
Todd Gerhardt: The monument signs would be located on Market and Kerber highlighting the
entrance from an east and a west side of the library so I think the sign should look the same. The
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key thing here is the electrical. They will be back lit so people can identify where those entrances
are at night. You can delete this one from the change order No. 1, however we will want to try to
get that electrical work done so that will probably come along at another change order. So you
want to get the electrical in around the parking lot prior to the library opening before the park is
done so we've got to have those signs up prior to the park being done.
Councilman Ayotte: Seasonally it would make sense to do it sooner than later, wouldn't it? In
terms of labor hours required to do that. I mean if we postpone it, are we opening ourselves up to
a seasonal implication?
Todd Gerhardt: Well I'll probably be back in either your first meeting or second meeting in
August for Change Order No. 2 so I can bring that back for just electrical and then we can add the
signage as we develop the signage with the park plans and specs this fall.
Councilman Labatt: So this 14,000 dollar figure, does that include the electrical?
Todd Gerhardt: Yes.
Councilman Labatt: It does. Okay.
Mayor Jansen: And from what you said this covers our east and our west comers.
Todd Gerhardt: Correct.
Mayor Jansen: I don't recall there being an additional monument sign for the park.
Todd Gerhardt: Well we talked about one down along West 78th Street and a couple of kiosks.
Mayor Jansen: The kiosks would be different than the monument signs, and isn't this in the same
location as the one we had talked about on West 78th then, if this is the east.
Todd Gerhardt: No, these would be on Market and Kerber. The placement would either be on
the north or south side of the new parking lot over off of Market and then the entrance off of
Kerber, to highlight residents of where to enter to get access to the library. This one would
probably also include council chambers and the senior center, and the one to the west would just
highlight the library.
Councilman Labatt: Question for the heater post. So we're going to completely eliminate those?
Then we won't be needing those?
Todd Gerhardt: There are I think 3 posts out there right now and that will accommodate the
needs in the area. The change order highlighted 12. The deputies stated they do not need the
electrical outlets. They typically either allow their cars to continue to run or between shifts they
don't sit that long so they can start them up right away.
Mayor Jansen: Okay. I don't think I have any problem with moving the monument sign bases
then to a later approval, but I would hate to hold that planning process up for the park planning
since, I mean it's basically the same landscape architect. The architects for the library are aware
of the park plan. If we can just make sure that whatever is planned for the library is consistent
then with what we're going to do for the park.
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Todd Gerhardt: And I can talk with Damon too. I haven't seen the detailed drawings for these
entry monuments. I think if we run those by Damon, or that he at least has a copy that he makes
the park design signage similar to what Barry's proposing.
Mayor Jansen: Okay. And then I'm assuming that it's also meeting our own sign ordinance that
staff has taken a look at these and it's come through that approval as well.
Todd Gerhardt: Well again I haven't seen the details on that, and I'm sure Kate would like to see
those also.
Mayor Jansen: Okay. Then ifI could have a motion for the amended l(f) please.
Councilman Peterson: I make a motion that we amend l(f). The amended amendment to l(f)
would be deleting the two masonry monument sign bases, until the appropriate time of $14,308.
Mayor Jansen: And a second please.
Councilman Boyle: I'll second.
Resolution #2002-66: Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Boyle seconded to approve
Change Order No. 1 for the Chanhassen Library project deleting the two masonry
monument sign bases in the amount of $14,308. All voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Councilman Labatt: Can I just ask clarification? Did we also eliminate the sign, the heater posts?
Mayor Jansen: It was on the amendment.
Councilman Labatt: Am I looking at the wrong one?
Mayor Jansen: That Todd handed us tonight.
Councilman Labatt: Got it.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS.
Don Smith: I'm Don Smith. I live in Chanhassen Estates. I'm here on the landlord versus, I'm
here in regards to the landlord versus the tenants behavior. And I'm totally opposed to this for
many reasons. First of all, I don't know how many apartments there are in Chanhassen and to
what percentage that it accounts for, but I as a landlord have absolutely no control over what my
tenants do. In a common scenario I was thinking of is, I have enough problems collecting the
rent, let alone asking where their credit references are, but when something goes wrong, I have no
power and most of it is in the hands of, if it's disorderly, in the police or some other bureau. If
it's a building code, I take care of it. If it's a police action, like rowdy behavior, drugs or
whatever, you call the police so I'd like to know how anybody on this agenda could possibly
consider the landlord is responsible for his tenant. Whether it's 1 unit, 5 units or 10 units. I think
it's unconstitutional for you or any other board to pass laws like this without either public
referendum, and then include people that own commercial business and say you're totally held
accountable for whatever your people do. A good example is if somebody drinks too much on
my property, which I have no control over, it's an apartment building, and they go out and get
smashed up, who's fault is it? Mine. How am I being held responsible for what they do on their
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own personal behavior? And that's about it. I think that this issue should be thoroughly and
totally investigated. Brought before the public, and put on the agenda for a vote. Enough said.
Any questions? I'd be willing to answer them.
Mayor Jansen: Any questions for Mr. Smith? Okay, thank you. As far as the status of that
project at this point, we have had a task force which involved numerous of the actual property
owners here in town giving input to staff as they've been pulling together this ordinance. We are
in the process now of taking that out to the public in order to gain public comment. Also the
maintenance portion of that particular item is also going out so we are in the process of collecting
more public input and we appreciate your sharing your comments here with us this evening and I
know you have been in touch with staff and made some comments along the way so we
appreciate your input.
Don Smith: I certainly have, and by the way, if there's problem at Fort Riley, that's a personal
problem. Put up a gate and hire security guards. I don't see the public being held responsible for
somebody's behavior.
Mayor Jansen: Understood. Thank you. Appreciate your comments for this evening. Is there
anyone else who would like to address the council this evening? Mr. Fahey, if you'd like to come
to the podium. Appreciate your being here this evening.
John Fahey: Well thank you Mayor Jansen, and thank you fellow councilmen. We have a great
opportunity in front of us. An opportunity to elect a senator to represent all of Carver County,
and the 3 townships of Jackson, Louisville and St. Lawrence located in Scott County. The last
time we had this opportunity was back in 1940. A gentleman by the name of Henry Wagner out
of Waconia had represented all of Carver County. So what we have before us, we have a primary
on September 10th, and then a general election on November 5th. And myself as a Republican
running in the primary are trying to encourage everyone to get out to vote on September l0th. I'm
a life long resident of Norwood-Young America. I'm a small business owner. I'm a member of
the Norwood-Young America Lions. I've been involved in the District 108 School Board for 6
years, and I'm really encouraged by a lot of people and I'm really excited to have the opportunity
to sit down and meet hopefully with all of you individually and then to take this whole process
forward through September and then onto November. And if anyone has any questions, but thank
you for the opportunity to speak.
Mayor Jansen: Sure, thank you for being here this evening. Any questions for John council?
Councilman Ayotte: I'll do it one on one.
John Fahey: Pardon?
Councilman Ayotte: I'll do it one on one.
John Fahey: Thanks Bob. I appreciate it.
Mayor Jansen: Thank you.
John Fahey: Thank you.
Mayor Jansen: Is there anyone else who would like to address the council under visitor
presentations?
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LAW ENFORCEMENT UPDATE.
Mayor Jansen: We have Sergeant Dave Potts here this evening looking rather casual.
Councilman Boyle: Are you undercover tonight?
Sgt. Dave Potts: Good evening mayor, council members. No. Still on light duty.
Mayor Jansen: We appreciate you being here this evening.
Sgt. Dave Potts: Be back to full duty in uniform and all that kind of good stuff scheduled for
August 12th so things are moving along well that way. In your council packets you do have the
sheriff's office area report for Chanhassen for June, as well as the Sheriff's office area citation
list, which I'm sure you know has been missing for many months now back in the packet of
information. As well as community service officer highlights for June. Any comments or
questions on any of those items from council?
Mayor Jansen: Any questions for Sergeant Potts?
Sgt. Dave Potts: Okay. Moving on to the other items. July 3rd events and July 4th, from our
perspective went off just fantastic. Minor problems here and there but nothing significant, worthy
of even mentioning to council. The July 3rd kiddie parade, we were able to have a deputy as well
as the community service officer help out with that event, and the City Center Park festival had a
contracted deputy as well as 2 of our reserve deputies and the CSO attending that function for
general security purposes. July 4th parade, the sheriff's office was able to provide a deputy and
squad car to lead the parade out, as well as 4 of our part time and reserve officers and the
Chanhassen CSO to help out with traffic assistance regarding the parade. And then over at Lake
Ann Park, because of the large crowds and then the fireworks later in the evening, we always try
to have some extra officers over at the city park there, and we were able to provide 4 of our
deputies reserves and posse members as well as a CSO to help with the fireworks security and
just general policing of the park, utilizing the sheriff's department all terrain vehicles in that
endeavor, and we found that to work real well for us. So certainly those kind of things help keep
things nice, smooth and quiet for us. Also, July 3rd the trade fair. We had a combination City of
Chanhassen Crime Prevention and Sheriff's Office booth at the trade fair this year. Trying
something a little new. We had the sheriff's office photo board which is kind of a collage of
photos from the sheriff's office, as well as a number of pieces of literature, brochures and what
not regarding crime prevention and safety topics for children, adults, seniors, all the way through.
Gave out just a whole lot of sticker badges and D.A.R.E. stickers and seat belt stickers and
pencils and those kind of things. It was an interesting couple of hours and very busy. A lot of
people go through that trade fair in a short amount of time that it's going on.
Mayor Jansen: So did you feel that that was good exposure then for your services as well as?
Sgt. Dave Potts: Being that it's our first time out on that, it's hard to make a one time judgment
of it. From a PR standpoint, from a public relations, we're out there mixing with the citizens and
had some information for them. We didn't have a lot of people picking up, you know we were
looking to get some of the crime prevention materials and other things out there, and mostly
they're out there having a good time. It's a festival kind of a situation, so as I said, gave away a
lot of the stickers and that kind of a thing. Not a whole lot of takers on some of the materials, but
again I hate to make a judgment based on one time situation.
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Mayor Jansen: Sure. Well we appreciate the commitment to being there. Of course it was one of
our key objectives was to increase the visibility so to have you out there on such a significant day
when we have so many people from the community going through an event like that, we
appreciate your taking the time and doing that.
Sgt. Dave Potts: Exactly, and those are the kind of opportunities we're going to be continuing to
look for but yeah, it was one of the items on our work plan for this year so kind of a big push for
that. Also in your packets you have a copy of a performance tractor. I previously mentioned to
council, I like to throw these things in there when they come across my desk. Sergeant Julie
Bowden, supervisor at the scene of the officer involved shooting at the Citgo station, recognized
Deputy Kyle Perlich for his professionalism and his actions in helping to apprehend the suspect,
and then rendering first aide to the suspect. And this was all after the suspect had threatened to
kill officers and had attempted to attack Deputy Perlich in the process of this situation. And the
same suspect did in fact assault one of the Chaska officers who was assisting, so you just have
that in your packet as information and some good police work on Deputy Kyle Perlich's part.
The last item I have for council is amendments to the hunting area map for the city. Per city
ordinance, it is up to council to amend the allowable areas for bow use and firearm use in the city.
The only amendments that we're proposing are kind of amendments for formality reasons.
Nothing real significant. Hunting is not a large scale activity in Chanhassen. Over about the last
4 years we've had between 110-150 shooting permits applied for and approved per year. All of
the hunting areas in Chanhassen are on private land, except for a very small area down in the
extreme southern portion of the city is some state land. So not only does it require a permit from
the city, it requires permission of the landowner as well, and for the majority of our landowners
it's strictly relatives and friends, that type of thing, that they allow to use their land. But I brought
a color map. You have a black and white map in your packets but I brought a color map this
evening just to kind of point out, in case they don't show up too well on your black and white
map. The green areas are the areas for firearm and/or bow use and the checkered board areas are
for bow use only. The changes that we're proposing are near the intersection of Highway 5 and
Highway 41. The northeast comer of that intersection. Obviously due to the Pulte development
that has gone in there, eliminating that. That was previously a bow hunting area. The other
change is an area that was misplaced on the map, on the previous map, right along Lake Drive
West was more accurately moved to it's correct location just west of Powers Boulevard, north of
Lake Drive West. And then down by Halla Nursery, right off the 101, the southwest corner of
101 and Pioneer Trail. An area that was still on the map even though there's been a
neighborhood there for a few years now. We eliminated that, so those were the 3 changes that
we're proposing to the map. The rest of the areas that you see on the map are areas that have
been there for a number of years. And looking for comments or questions from council on that.
Mayor Jansen: Council any comments? Otherwise we can ask that Mr. Gerhardt put this on our
agenda for approval, if you could do that for us so that we can take care of the amendment.
Okay. Thank you.
Sgt. Dave Potts: Any other comments or questions from council?
Councilman Ayotte: How's the one officer that was hurt, how's he coming along?
Sgt. Dave Potts: I have not heard specifically other than early on after the incident I heard that he
was doing real well. He had been previously injured. This aggravated a previous injury but that
came out of that pretty well so very fortunate situation that way.
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Mayor Jansen: And maybe if you have a few comments to share on the safety camp that you just
held.
Sgt. Dave Potts: Yeah. Would normally save that for next month but sure, since we just did it.
Mayor Jansen: Just brief.
Sgt. Dave Potts: It's, from my perspective, one of the neatest programs Crime Prevention does in
this city. You were there this year mayor, and you got to see what a large group of kids and their
supporting family and friends that mm out at the end of the day. Again, generally for kids going
into third grade, although we don't, you know aren't 100 percent strict on that. If people have an
interest in sending their kids to that program, we try to do everything we can to get them in there,
but this year we did make one change to it. Kind of call it the Carver County Sheriff's Office/
Chanhassen Crime Prevention Safety Camp because of the large involvement of the sheriff's
office, both providing team leaders as well as presenters for that program. This year we had 4 of
our officers acting as team leaders, and a couple other officers acting as presenters and one of the
areas being personal safety. What to do around strangers and that type of thing. And the other in
water and boating safety. We had our water patrol come out with their boat, their rig and
demonstrate and talk to the kids about that so. It's a full day. It's a long day but it's really a fun
day and hopefully we're just putting that safety spark into kids minds at an early age.
Mayor Jansen: It is fun to see the excitement level of the kids that have participated in the
program, even as they're coming to the conclusion at the end of the day. They're still pretty
excited about what they have just experienced and to see as many officers as were there, and the
interaction that the kids have with the officers, I think it's very encouraging that they make that
contact. They're now more comfortable with the officers that are in the community and certainly
their families who are there also.
Sgt. Dave Potts: One of the most fun parts of the day for me is that, when we get there in the
morning we're in our t-shirt and shorts. Our safety camp t-shirts and shorts and we spend the
whole day with these kids. And then at the end of the day, as they're getting ready for their
graduation ceremony, we disappear. Put on our full uniform and then reappear as officers so
they, maybe somewhere along the way during the daytime they heard that some of us were police
officers, but they don't really put it together until they see you in uniform. And then they do kind
of a double take, thinking they just spent the whole day with this regular guy or whatever, regular
gal and all of a sudden they find out it's a police officer and they, it must send a rush of thinking
back through the day and if they were minding their p's and q's all day long. But it's a lot of fun.
Mayor Jansen: It is a fun event, so we'll look forward to the detailed report in next month's
agenda but appreciate your giving us a brief update. It certainly is an exciting event. In fact I
heard comments that people from outside of the community had come to this event because they
had heard how excellent the safety camp is here in Chanhassen so word is spreading and we have
a great amount of recognition out there for your program so appreciate your efforts.
Sgt. Dave Potts: And a number of real good sponsors that you'll be hearing more about next
month so.
Mayor Jansen: Okay, thank you. Any questions for Sergeant Potts?
Councilman Ayotte: I'll call you. There's a child abduction prevention program that is getting a
lot of notoriety now. Are we tied into it, do you know?
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Sgt. Dave Potts: Yeah, it's not anything that requires signing up or that type of thing. It's brand
new. I just received the materials through the mail recently and yeah we're, like everybody else,
statewide we're part of that as well.
Mayor Jansen: Okay, thank you.
Sgt. Dave Potts: Thank you.
CONSIDER VASSERMAN RIDGE DEVELOPMENT, LOCATED ON THE NORTH
SIDE OF HIGHWAY 5 AND NORTHEAST OF CENTURY BOULEVARD, LUNDGREN
BROTHERS CONSTRUCTION.
REQUEST TO REZONE 68.76 ACRES OF PROPERTY ZONED A-2,
AGRICULTURAL ESTATE TO PUD, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND
R-4, RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE.
LAND USE AMENDMENT FOR A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY (1.94
ACRES) FROM RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY TO COMMERCIAL.
WETLAND ALTERATION PERMIT.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ALTERATION IN THE BLUFF CREEK
OVERLAY DISTRICT.
Kate Aanenson: Thank you. Outlined in black is the subject site. This is an outlot previously
outlotted with the Lundgren subdivision to the north, Longacres. There's two underlying
properties. The Longacres outlot and the group home, American Baptist Church Group Home,
which is 10 acres. The development of this property was predicated on the completion of West
78th Street and extension of the city services. You can see the wetland complex is also driving
some of the development and the frontage road and the location of this commercial piece on the
Puke property. Outlined in blue is the primary zone. Again driving some of the development and
the outlotting of some of the property. As I indicated, there is a rezoning request and a land use
amendment. The underlying zoning is A-2 and looking at the subdivision, the developer wanted
to do something similar to the north side which was large lot, and also we indicated when we
looked in the Puke piece that this piece, which we have recommended PUD-commercial with the
same design standards as the Pulte piece. Because when West 78th was put in place, there was a
restricted access on West 78th Street so we believe that the best access and the best use of this
property, because it's topographically separated, should be tied into that other piece so we're
recommending a PUD and it's got the same design standards as that Puke piece. So they may
come in, both parties are working together to develop that property which we believe is the best
use, so they'll have to come back with a separate site plan and how they're going to manage the
storm water. So this piece will be commercial and there's ponds on the other two little remnant
parcels there. So looking at the rest of that, and the acquisition of the group home, which after
this plat is approved they have a year to move somewhere else and looking at twin homes and
kind oftransitioning this property. Again as we went through the Puke Arboretum Village, the
applicant on this property indicated that they want to do a single family home and kind of
transition that and creating buffer. In your packet they did do a noise study and looking at the
berm. When this first came in we had some concerns about the location of the berm, and they
were also concerned about noise attenuation and looking at the twin homes and that's built into
the design. So the berm was redesigned in order to accommodate the concerns we had with road
access and the like, and we believe that the design works really well. The other concern that the
Planning Commission had was the preservation of some of the natural features. The wetland
edge for the primary zone, it will be the wetland line so on the second zone which requires a
condition use, we were trying to save some of the features. The most significant natural feature's
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in this area up in here, where there's a significant stand of trees and again that's part of the group
home. The trees on the backs of the lots along the edge of the wetlands, Outlot F along this piece,
the applicant had already proposed the custom graded homes and looking at the tree preservation.
What we did after the first visit to the Planning Commission was on June 18th, is they asked them
to go back and revisit how they could preserve more trees. So that was accomplished through
raising the road 3 feet and doing some more custom grading and tree preservation, so that's
accomplishing what we wanted in the secondary zone. So we believe that the applicant
responded really well to the concerns of the Planning Commission and the staff. So with the twin
homes, moving into the single family homes, they've also provided the private park for that
neighborhood. One of the other concerns that the Planning Commission had was the trail. If you
look at the overall development of this area, there's a large wetland complex that's compressing
as you go back down towards Galpin, and the official recreation trail plan it shows a connection
through there. But because it's compressed, you can see this wetland, we'll have a trail
connecting through here. They're actually touching very close because you also have one on
West 78th. So Park and Rec made the decision it's probably a duplication of that trail. So the
way that the trail is accomplished, we want to tie it into, zoom back out. Tie it into the
Arboretum Village trail, which is a nice experience as you go around the Puke property which is
the city to control that property. Going around to the south side of the Long acres, which is a nice
loop. So you'll come back down through here. This will all be a trail. One of the other
recommendations is that this area here, that they want also to be left natural and that ties again
with that area that the city acquired with the Puke property. A bridge is required because there's
a wetland there, and a small wetland here that they are mitigating. We are recommending that a
bridge be put in there instead of mitigation of that wetland, so that will be a nice experience as
you go through there. But it was the Park and Rec Director's recommendation that instead of
duplicating that experience, that this actually the trail would then become a sidewalk, so there
were sidewalks through the rest of this project to get you over to the swimming pool and their
private park, and then also get you back to the trail that's on the city street, West 78th Street. So
we think it works really well. The only place there isn't a sidewalk will be the most northerly
cul-de-sac, up in this area. This cul-de-sac does because it does have twin homes. So with that,
we believe that the projects are well conceived. It makes good sense, and again it fits within the
zoning. The R-4 zoning and the low density. There's only 3 options. One would be the PUD
which makes the lots have to average 15. The R-4 or the RSF and again staff recommended this,
we believe again what makes a good transition with the last piece left which is the Pryzmus piece.
So there are 5 actions that's required they're formulated in 3 motions starting on page 28. The
first is the land use recommendation. For this project to go through, it does require a land use
recommendation for this piece right here. Again that needs Met Council approval before it can
go forward, and the rezoning. And the rezoning is two zones. One, the PUD and the other, the
R-4. The second action is the subdivision itself. And the third motion would be the wetland and
the condition use for the Bluff Creek overlay. Again those conditions start on page 28 and the
findings of fact are right before that. So with that I'd be happy to answer any questions that you
have.
Mayor Jansen: Okay. Council, any questions for staff? Okay, seeing none, we have had a
wonderful presentation from staff. I don't know if the applicant actually wants to make any
further comments, but we of course go through the Planning Commission minutes and are aware
of all of the discussions that occurred there. If there's anything new that you would like to bring
to the council's attention, you're certainly welcome to do that at this time.
Mike Burton: I have nothing new. I'm just here to answer questions.
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Mayor Jansen: Thank you. Any questions for the applicant? Okay, seeing none. This is not a
public hearing but if there is anyone here that would like to make comment on this agenda item,
you're certainly welcome to come forward and do that at this time. Seeing no one, I'll bring it
back to council. Council, any discussion?
Councilman Peterson: On the surface, and even deep down, this is a good project. I think that we
talked about it at the last joint commission, Planning Commission/Council meeting as should they
have done what they did? I think the answer is we've got a better product because they did what
they did, and I think they worked well with the applicant to get a better project. I'm glad we can
get it moving ahead and fill up that spot.
Mayor Jansen: Okay, agreed. I want to thank the applicant and staff for working with the
Planning Commission's request as far as more tree conservation and the adjustments that you
were able to make in order to do that. I do think that that did make for a better product and it
looks as though it didn't impact the development too dramatically so appreciate your having done
that. The only comment that I had on the trail is probably more a city issue, and I did speak with
Todd Hoffman about it. Some sort of an identification out on the street identifying that the
sidewalk does lead to that trail connection that goes into that wetland complex. I don't know that
it's going to be that obvious that as you walk through the neighborhood in order to get to that
wetland trail since it will be a concrete sidewalk.
Kate Aanenson: So you're just making sure that there's good cuing that this is a public, to get out
onto that trail?
Mayor Jansen: Exactly. Yeah, some sort of signage out there just so they'd know that you get
through that neighborhood and then you're back out into the wetland.
Kate Aanenson: Because it will have different design specs. One will be an 8 foot asphalt, I'm
assuming, and the other would be a 5 foot typical sidewalk so we can work on that.
Teresa Burgess: It is common for us to post signage for people to be able to find those that are a
little bit more obtuse, and we'll certainly work with Parks to make sure that happens.
Mayor Jansen: This is just such a nice amenity, having that trail system going through that
wetland, I'd just like to make sure as many people are conscious of it as we can make.
Councilman Labatt: The only comments I had is, in reference to that trail, in the wintertime. The
City will maintain the asphalt trail, but does the homeowners association maintain the sidewalks
similar to Longacres or do the individual property owners?
Mike Burton: I'll introduce myself this time. Mike Burton from Lundgren Brothers. Good
evening Mayor and members of the council.
Mayor Jansen: Good evening.
Mike Burton: The homeowners association, we will have it set up that the individual
homeowners is what we had thought would actually maintain their sidewalks just as they would a
normal city sidewalk. So we're still discussing that but it will either be the individual
homeowners or the association. We're not decided on that yet, but it won't be the City.
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Kate Aanenson: You bring up an interesting point that the departments heads are in discussion on
that issue specifically. Maybe Todd wants to talk about it a little bit more but.
Todd Gerhardt: We're working on some outcomes.
Councilman Labatt: Probably have some input too right?
Councilman Boyle: Well I would guess there will be some issues.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah. It's been precipitated in other areas.
Todd Gerhardt: Yeah. We have some issues currently in town where homeowners are not
maintaining the sidewalks and we cite them and, but it continues to be a problem so one of the
options we may look at is, we'll go out and maintain the sidewalk and assess them for it, is one of
the options. So we'll be bringing that back as a part of our code enforcement updates, as we go
through the codes and we're updating those. That's one that we're looking at.
Councilman Boyle: But it is a public trail, is it not?
Kate Aanenson: Correct. All sidewalks are public sidewalks and we have issues, the school
children are walking and they're not being maintained so it's an over riding city issue.
Todd Gerhardt: Gary, for your information, the city will plow trails. We do not plow sidewalks
and sidewalks are the individual homeowner's responsibility. Our equipment cannot handle. It's
usually a 6 to 5 foot is a sidewalk section where a trail is anywhere from 8 to 10. And our trucks
can go down there and keep them clear so.
Mayor Jansen: So not to complicate the situation, but in that this is a such a significant
connection to the rest of that trail, is putting an 8 foot asphalt trail out to Galpin an option instead
of it being a sidewalk that we're going to end up potentially maintaining that.
Kate Aanenson: Well we looked at that as far as aesthetics. I think that the short answer to that
is, we're looking at through the code. By the time that phase gets completed, because Phase I is
just along up in this area. They've got to wait for the group home to move, which is going to take
years, so we have to have that policy in place from, Todd made some commitments to get a
policy in place, so we'll resolve that problem. I understand the complicate, and it is something
we need to have resolved. I'm not sure that making it wider, aesthetically would change when
it's somebody's front yard like that. When it's a narrower lot. It's part of a twin home and that's
what we looked at, but what I hear your concern is that we make sure that it's maintained and
then we need to get that policy in place.
Mayor Jansen: Yeah. Well we had such an extensive conversation around the width of these
trails as we were going narrower and staff saying how difficult it is to maintain something that's
narrower, if we're not keeping with our standards so.
Councilman Labatt: If we were to go with the 6 foot trail there, make it still concrete but make it
6 foot, that would allow the Bobcat, wouldn't it to go down?
Teresa Burgess: That would require us to purchase specialized equipment. If you remember
when we discussed the Highway 101 trail, we talked about a 6 foot trail. It requires us to
purchase specialized equipment for maintenance of that trail. So if we go with this small section.
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Councilman Labatt: What do we do right now in the city here? On the sidewalk in front of.
Teresa Burgess: In from of City Hall? We use a snowblower.
Councilman Labatt: No.
Todd Gerhardt: Downtown we use a Bobcat.
Councilman Labatt: Yeah, and why can't we use that Bobcat out there then?
Todd Gerhardt: We're going to have a pick-up do the 8 foot trail, so I don't know how that pick-
up is going to make the transition from the trail that goes through the wetland to the sidewalk so
that's a question for Todd. From a maintenance operation standpoint. But we would have to put
a Bobcat on a trailer and have it go out and do, how many feet is this? 1,000 feet, with just for
the Bobcat.
Councilman Labatt: Well that gets almost down to your assessing portion too though.
Kate Aanenson: How about this? This has to come back for final plat. I'm not sure I can answer
all the questions you have for Todd but how about if we make a condition that we work to
resolve. Either we have a policy in place or we look at some other options when we come back
for final plat.
Councilman Labatt: Mr. Burton, you're okay with that? Okay.
Mayor Jansen: And where would you have us add that condition?
Kate Aanenson: Probably under the subdivision conditions where...the width of the sidewalk or
a trail. Does that make sense?
Councilman Labatt: So number 49 then?
Kate Aanenson: Sure.
Mayor Jansen: Got that? Any other comments? Okay. Then I'll call for a motion. Steve are
you drafting one for us?
Councilman Labatt: Yeah. Yeah. I'll try to make a shot here. I'd move that the city approve the
Comprehensive Land Use Amendment from low density to commercial for 1.4 acres of property
and approve the ordinance for a Planned Unit Development rezoning property from Ag Estate,
A2 to Mixed Low Density Residential, R-4, subject to the following conditions 1 through 4 in the
staff report.
Mayor Jansen: Good catch. And a second please.
Councilman Peterson: Second.
Councilman Labatt moved, Councilman Peterson seconded that the City Council approves
Resolution No. 2002-67 for a Comprehensive Land Use Amendment from low density to
commercial for 1.94 acres of property: and approve the ordinance for a Planned Unit
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Development rezoning property from Agricultural Estate, A2 to Mixed Low Density
Residential, R-4, subject to the findings of the staff report and the following conditions:
1. Approve design standards for the 1.94 acres of commercial and zoning for the PUD.
2. Conditions of the subdivision.
3. Conditions of the Wetland and Conditional Use Permit.
4. Approval of the Metropolitan Council for the Land Use Amendment.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Mayor Jansen: Next motion please.
Councilman Labatt: Okay, I move that we approve the preliminary plat for Vasserman Ridge,
including 84 residential lots, 1 commercial lot, 6 outlots as shown in the plans dated June 24,
2002, subject to the following conditions 1 through 49. 49 being the latest addition of reviewing
the option of the width of the sidewalk leading to the city trail.
Mayor Jansen: Do you need more direction on 49, or that's acceptable? Okay. And a second
please.
Councilman Peterson: Second.
Councilman Labatt moved, Councilman Peterson seconded that the City Council approves
the preliminary plat for Vasserman Ridge, including 84 residential lots, 1 commercial lot,
and 6 outlots as shown on plans dated June 24, 2002, subject to the findings in the staff
report and the following conditions:
Detailed grading, drainage, tree removal and erosion control plans will be required for
each lot at the time of building permit application for City review and approval. In
addition, as-built surveys will be required on each lot prior to occupancy.
If importing or exporting material for development of the site is necessary, the applicant
will be required to supply the City with detailed haul routes and traffic control plans.
Each of the ponds shall be designed to National Urban Runoff Program (NURP)
standards.
The existing well and septic systems must be capped and/or removed in compliance with
State health codes.
5. Staff will work with the engineer to correct the drainage calculations.
Prior to final platting, storm sewer design data will need to be submitted for staff review.
Depending on the size of the drainage area, additional catch basins may be required at
that time. The storm sewer will have to be designed for a 10 year, 24 hour storm event.
Drainage and utility easements will need to be dedicated on the final plat over the public
storm drainage system including ponds, drainage swales, emergency overflows, access
routes for maintenance, and wetlands up to the 100 year flood level. The minimum
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easement width shall be 20 feet wide. Emergency overflows from all stormwater ponds
will also be required on the construction plans.
Erosion control measures and site restoration shall be developed in accordance with the
City's Best Management Practice Handbook (BMPH). Staff recommends that the City's
Type III erosion control fence, which is a heavy duty silt fence be used for the area
adjacent to the existing wetlands on the north, east and west grading limits of the site.
Type II silt fence shall be used in all other areas. A rock construction entrance must be
shown at the entrance drive that will be utilized during construction. In addition, wood-
fiber blankets will be required on the steep slopes of the proposed berms and off the west
side of the ~D" street cul-de-sac. The silt fences shall be removed upon completion of
construction.
Utility improvements will be required to be constructed in accordance with the City's
latest edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates. Detailed construction plans
and specifications will be required at time of final platting. Additional manholes and/or
valves may be required at that time. The applicant will also be required to enter into a
development contract with the City and supply the necessary financial security in the
form of a letter of credit or cash escrow to guarantee installation of the improvements and
the conditions of final plat approval. Permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies
will be required prior to construction, including but not limited to MPCA, Department of
Health, MnDot, Watershed District, etc.
The assessments for the BC-7/BC-8 project were based on the existing zoning for the site
yielding a developed total of 68 units. Since the applicant is now proposing more units
(84 + 3 units for the commercial lot) than what the property has been assessed for, the
additional 19 units (87 - 68 = 19) will be charged a sanitary sewer lateral connection
charge. The assessments for the Highway 5 project, based on existing zoning, yielded a
developed total of 76 units. As above, since more units are now being proposed than
what was assessed for (87 vs. 76), the additional 11 units will be charged a watermain
lateral connection charge. The current 2002 lateral connection charge for sanitary or
water is $4,335 per unit. Based on the current rate, the total amount due payable to the
City for the additional 30 units would be $130,050 (30 ~ $4,335). In addition, each
newly created lot will be subject to City sanitary sewer and water hook-up charges are
$1,383 per unit for sanitary sewer and $1,802 per unit for water. Hook-up charges are for
core utility system infrastructure, i.e. wells, lift stations, water towers, etc. Connection
fees are in lieu of assessments which were absorbed by the City instead of being levied at
the time of construction. In this case, more units are proposed to be constructed than
originally anticipated.
10.
The total remaining assessment due payable to the City for the BC-7/BC-8 Trunk Utility
Project is $77,350 for sanitary sewer.
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The total remaining assessment due payable to the City for the Trunk Highway 5 project
is $112,651 for watermain.
12. Encroachment agreements will be required for the islands within the right-of-way.
13.
The applicant shall include a draintile system behind the curbs to convey sump pump
discharge from homes not adjacent to ponds.
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14.
15.
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18.
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20.
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25.
26.
27.
Areas with a street grade greater than 7% must be revised to meet the criteria.
All plans must be signed by a registered engineer.
Access to the commercial lot shall be via a shared driveway with the neighboring
commercial lot to the west. The access will be located just east of the median on West
78th Street.
Move the pond outlet pipe for the pond in the southwest comer of the site from beneath
the 20 foot berm.
Applicant shall revise landscape plan to show a minimum of 365 trees to be planted.
The developer shall be responsible for installing all landscape materials proposed in rear
yard areas and buffer yards.
Tree preservation fence shall be installed at the edge of the grading limits on Lots 29-34,
Block 1 and Lots 22 -32, Block 2 prior to any construction. A conservation easement
shall be placed over said lots.
The following lots shall be custom graded: Lots 22-28, Block 2 and Lots 29-34 of Block
1. Any trees removed on Lots 29-34, Block 1 and Lots 22-28, Block 2 in excess of
proposed tree preservation plans will be replaced at a ratio of 2:1 diameter inches.
All trees removed within the utility easement along the north side of the development
shall be replaced 1:1.
All of the proposed house pads must have a rear yard elevation at least three feet above
the HWL of adjacent ponds.
On the grading plan:
a. Show the emergency overflow for the back yard areas of Block 1.
b. Show the rear yard low points for the areas without a pond or wetland.
c. Show the existing contour elevations for the neighboring property to the east a
minimum of 100 feet outside of the site.
d. Show all existing and proposed easements.
e. Show the benchmark which was used for the site survey.
Wetland replacement shall occur in a manner consistent with the Minnesota Wetland
Conservation Act (MR 8420). The applicant shall submit a wetland alteration permit
application. Prior to wetland impacts occurring, the applicant shall obtain City approval
of a wetland replacement plan.
A wetland buffer 0 to 20 feet in width (with a minimum average of 10 feet) shall be
maintained around Basins 1, 3 and the wetland mitigation areas. A wetland buffer 10 to
30 feet in width (with a minimum average of 20 feet) shall be maintained around Basin 2.
Wetland buffer areas shall be preserved, surveyed and staked in accordance with the
City's wetland ordinance. The applicant shall install wetland buffer edge signs, under the
direction of city staff, before construction begins and shall pay the City $20 per sign.
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28. All structures shall maintain a 40 foot setback from the edge of the wetland buffer.
29. All proposed trails and trail easements shall be located outside of the wetland buffer area.
30.
The grading and erosion control plan shall show the actual wetland buffer widths
proposed to meet the minimum average buffer width requirements as well as the 40 foot
wetland buffer setback.
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Structures on Lots 11, 12, and 13, Block 2 shall be designed to accommodate decks or
other accessory structures within the 60 x 70 building pad or the lots shall be
reconfigured to provide more flexibility.
32.
The proposed development shall maintain existing runoff rates. Storm water calculations
shall be submitted to ensure the proposed storm water pond is sized adequately for the
proposed development. On-site storm water ponding shall be sufficient to meet all City
water quality and quantity standards.
33.
Drainage and utility easements shall be provided over all existing wetlands, wetland
mitigation areas, buffer areas used as PVC and storm water ponds.
34. Demolition permits must be obtained before demolishing any existing structures.
35. All on-site sewage treatment systems must be abandoned in accordance with City Code.
36.
Prior to permit submittals the developer shall meet with the Inspections Division to
discuss the design and construction of the twinhomes.
37.
Final grading plans and soil reports must be submitted to the Inspections Division before
building permits will be issued.
38.
A 10 foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e. street lamps, trees,
bushes, shrubs, Qwest, Xcel Energy, cable TV and transformer boxes. This is to ensure
that fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to
Chanhassen City Ordinance #9-1.
39.
When fire protection, including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire
protection is required to be installed, such protection shall be installed and made
serviceable prior to and during the time of construction. Pursuant to 1997 Minnesota
Uniform Fire Code Section 901-3.
40.
In the cul-de-sacs with the center island ~no parking" signs will be required. Contact
Chanhassen City Fire marshal for additional information.
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No burning permits will be issued for trees to be removed. Trees or shrubs must be either
removed from site or chipped.
42.
Submit street names to Chanhassen Building Official and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
review and approval.
43.
Submit cul-de-sac to Chanhassen City Engineer and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for review
and approval.
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44.
Additional fire hydrants will be required. One will be required at the intersection of "A"
Street and "B" Street; one will be required between Lots 23 and 24, and an additional
hydrant will be required at the intersection of "C" Street and West 78th Street Frontage
Road.
45.
The applicant shall be required to build the "wetland" trail between Lots 18 and 19 and in
the rear of Lots 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, and 25. This trail shall be 8 feet wide and
constructed with bituminous pavement per city standard specifications. The trail shall be
connected with the existing trail, which terminates at Lot 13 of The Meadows at
Longacres. A permanent 20 foot wide trail easement shall be described by the applicant
generally centered on the new trail and granted to the City to allow the maintenance and
upkeep of this public trail. The applicant is eligible for reimbursement of the construction
costs of said trail, including materials and labor, but excluding engineering, surveying,
legal and all other associated costs. To be eligible for reimbursement from the city's trail
fund the applicant shall submit construction plans and specifications and construction
costs to the City 45 or more days prior to the start of construction for review and
authorization. Assuming authorization to proceed is received and upon completion of
construction, the applicant shall be eligible for reimbursement. Said construction shall be
covered by warranties equal to or exceeding industry standards.
46.
The City shall accept the small upland portion of Outlot F in the northwest comer of the
project as parkland dedication as all of Outlot F is transferred into public ownership. The
dollar amount of this credit will be calculated per City ordinance.
47. All remaining park and trail fees shall be collected per City ordinance.
48. All lots meet the standards of the R-4 zoning district.
49.
City staff will review the option of the width of the sidewalk leading to the city trail prior
to final plat approval.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Councilman Labatt: I'd recommend that we approve the Wetland Alteration Permit for alteration
and conditional use permit for development within the Bluff Creek Overlay District as shown on
plans dated June 24, 2002, subject to the following conditions, 1 through 11.
Mayor Jansen: And a second please?
Councilman Peterson: Second.
Councilman Labatt moved, Councilman Peterson seconded that the City Council approves
a Wetland Alteration Permit for alteration and Conditional Use Permit for development
within the Bluff Creek Overlay District as shown on plans dated June 24, 2002, and subject
to the findings in the staff report and the following conditions:
The applicant shall install a bridge over the swale between Basins 2 and 3 to avoid
wetland impacts and enhance the aesthetics of this area.
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Wetland replacement shall occur in a manner consistent with the Minnesota Wetland
Conservation Act (MR 8420). The applicant shall submit a wetland alteration permit
application. Prior to wetland impacts occurring, the applicant shall obtain City approval
of a wetland replacement plan.
A 5 year wetland replacement monitoring plan shall be submitted. The plans shall show
fixed photo monitoring points for the replacement wetlands.
The applicant shall provide proof of recording of a Declaration of Restrictions and
Covenants for Replacement Wetland.
A wetland buffer 0 to 20 feet in width (with a minimum average of 10 feet) shall be
maintained around Basins 1, 3 and the wetland mitigation areas. A wetland buffer 10 to
30 feet in width (with a minimum average of 20 feet) shall be maintained around Basin 2.
(Those buffers considered for Public Value Credit (PVC) under the Wetland
Conservation Act (WCA) shall maintain a minimum width of 16.5 feet.)
Wetland buffer areas shall be preserved, surveyed and staked in accordance with the
City's wetland ordinance. The applicant shall install wetland buffer edge signs, under the
direction of city staff, before construction begins and shall pay the City $20 per sign.
7. All proposed trails and trail easements shall be located outside of the wetland buffer area.
The grading and erosion control plan shall show the actual wetland buffer widths
proposed to meet the minimum average buffer width requirements as well as the 40 foot
wetland buffer setback.
Drainage and utility easements shall be provided over all existing wetlands, wetland
mitigation areas, buffer areas used as PVC and storm water ponds.
10.
Type III silt fence shall be provided adjacent to all wetland fill areas, areas to be
preserved as buffer or if no buffer is to be preserved, at the delineated wetland edge. Any
disturbed wetland areas shall be reseeded with MnDot seed mix 25A, or a similar seed
mix that is approved for wetland soil conditions. All upland areas disturbed as a result of
construction activities shall be immediately restored with seed and disc-mulched, covered
with a wood fiber blanket or sodded within two weeks of completion of each activity in
accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook. The silt fences shall be
removed upon completion of construction.
11.
The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies
(e.g. Riley-Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District, Army Corps of Engineers) and
comply with their conditions of approval.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS: COUNCIL/COMMISSION LIAISON UPDATES. None.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS:
Todd Gerhardt: I just want to update the council. We had Standard and Poors in last week and
gave them a nice tour of town. Sat down and talked about the library project. Occasionally
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Standards and Poors will come into a community and make sure development is occurring. Meet
staff and give them a copy of our CAFR and had a nice tour. That was about it. I did meet with
Rosemount today. Had a good discussion. They talked about transferring of some of their
property on Lot 2, next to the park to us. If we would allow them to sell, I think Lot 3 up by the
highway, and told them that I will be putting a full report to the council on their options sometime
in August so. And met with Carver County HRA on the bowling alley site. They came in and
beat me up a little bit on purchase price, so I'm looking at some additional options on that
property. Looking at potentially maybe an all retail site, or finding some tenants that can work
with Carver County on the joint housing retail. Right now they wanted me to take over the
master lease on the retail, and I don't think that's something we want to get into, is into retail
business so hit a snag there. And I've asked to look at their financials but they have not provided
those to me as of yet, so we're moving along there. And coffee shop proposal. Met with the
Friends of the Library this morning and went through their request to try to implement a coffee
shop in the library. One of the elements missing from their proposal is a layout, so I can do cost
estimates to look at the rent that they were proposing. They said they would get that to me before
the end of next week. Then I'll sit down with Barry to do some estimates to do a full fledge
analysis of the cost benefit of that coffee shop. That's about it for me.
Councilman Peterson: When's the bank building going down? Old bank building.
Todd Gerhardt: The old bank building is being used as the construction trailer for the library
project, so Kraus-Anderson is operating out of there. As the library is under construction and we
get a roof on, they will vacate that building February-March and move into the library and
operate their construction facilities out of the library. And then during that time I'm working
with public works to do that as a winter project for demolition.
Councilman Peterson: So we're going to do it ourselves?
Todd Gerhardt: Yes. We've done probably 3 or 4 buildings in the downtown. We have done an
asbestos review on it. There is asbestos in there so we will have to have that removed. Contact
the DNR on the demolition, and Minnesota Pollution Control Agency and take her down.
Councilman Peterson: The DNR is involved with asbestos removal?
Todd Gerhardt: No. Just notification that you're demo'ing a building. I have no idea. They
communicate back...
Councilman Peterson: That's even more weird than their getting involved in asbestos.
Todd Gerhardt: Yeah. Well Minnesota Pollution Control gets involved in asbestos.
Councilman Peterson: Yeah, that I can understand but, well.
Mayor Jansen: And it was actually a cost savings to the city to have Kraus-Anderson using the
old bank building as their headquarters so that worked out rather nicely for us as a cost saving
measure.
Councilman Boyle: You mean they're paying rent?
Mayor Jansen: They're not charging us.
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Todd Gerhardt: We had a pre-construction, or pre-bid meeting with all the contractors and asked
them if there would be a cost savings if we allowed them to use the old bank building, and they
all agreed so we made that accommodation so it was included in their bids.
Mayor Jansen: Okay, anything else? Then if I could have a motion to adjourn please.
Councilman Boyle moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted
in favor and the motion carried. The meeting was adjourned at 7:50 p.m.
Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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