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CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
FEBRUARY 14, 2011
Mayor Furlong called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. The meeting was opened with the
Pledge to the Flag.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Furlong, Councilwoman Ernst, Councilman
Laufenburger, Councilwoman Tjornhom, and Councilman McDonald
STAFF PRESENT:
Laurie Hokkanen, Kate Aanenson, Paul Oehme, Todd Hoffman and Roger
Knutson
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Steven Hansen Key Financial Strategies
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mayor Furlong: Very good, thank you and welcome to everybody who’s here this evening and
those watching at home. We’re glad that you joined us. At this time I would like to ask
members of the council if there are any changes or modifications to the agenda. If not, without
objection we’ll proceed with the agenda as published.
CONSENT AGENDA: Councilwoman Ernst moved, Councilman Laufenburger seconded
that the City Council approve the following consent agenda items pursuant to the City
Manager’s recommendations:
a. Approval of Minutes:
-City Council Work Session Minutes dated January 24, 2011
-City Council Verbatim and Summary Minutes dated January 24, 2011
Receive Commission Minutes:
-Planning Commission Work Session Minutes dated February 1, 2011
-Park and Recreation Commission Verbatim and Summary Minutes dated January 25,
2011
Resolution#2011-07:
b. Accept Carver/Scott Statewide Health Improvement Program
(SHIP) Reimbursement.
Resolution#2011-08:
c. Well #9 Rehabilitation Project 03-02-01: Accept Quote.
d. Adoption of 2011 Legislative Priorities.
e. Adoption of 2011 Key Financial Strategies.
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f. Approval of Request for Temporary On-Sale Intoxicating Liquor License, April 9, 2011,
St. Hubert Catholic Community.
g. Approve Release of Special Assessment Agreement; Apple American Limited
Partnership.
Resolution#2011-09:
h. Approval of Public Improvement and Special Assessment
Agreement, Ellie Leimer, 725 Santa Vera Drive.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS:
None.
UPDATE ON TH 101 AND PLEASANT VIEW ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
Mayor Furlong: Let’s go to a staff report please. As I understand there is no action required of
the council this evening. Is that correct?
Paul Oehme: That’s correct Mayor. This is just a staff’s update on the proposed improvements
for this intersection and trail improvements along this corridor so. As Mayor and council may
recall, the council did authorize staff to apply for a grant application through MnDOT for
improvements to this intersection. The intersection in question is kind of shown here on this
map. Kind of the upper east corner of the community off of 101 and Pleasant View. Fairly well
traveled section of state highway in this area. Staff has been monitoring this intersection for
several years. There have been some documented significant accidents at this intersection and
we have heard from property owners in this area about the delays, trying to get onto 101 from
Pleasant View. And then also staff in working with the parks department, there is a trail gap
section from 101 at Pleasant View up to the regional trail and Highway 62 and the city of
Minnetonka so both of those items were eligible for funding through a, it’s basically a
cooperative agreement grant through the State of Minnesota. Specifically MnDOT. The
application was approved this, earlier this year and we’re starting to go through the process now
to, through the process for those improvements. So council did authorize staff to apply for the
state grants, as shown here and improvements at the intersection and pedestrian path extension.
Currently Pleasant View and 101 is shown here in this aerial photograph. North is up on this
sheet here so currently 101 and Pleasant View there is just two through lanes of traffic here.
There are right turn lanes at the intersection but looking at the intersection and the accidents that
are associated at this intersection, staff felt that making some modifications to this intersection
may help decrease the accident rate at this intersection and also help with potentially some of the
delays getting onto 101 from Pleasant View, especially from the Chanhassen side. Eden Prairie
is to the east here so just as a reference. So basically the proposed improvements are shown
here. What we propose to do is add left turn lanes at the intersection. At Pleasant View Road
on 101 so that would allow for traveling, vehicles traveling north and south do not have to stop
behind vehicles that want to make a left hand turn as they currently do now. It’s not, it’s illegal
for vehicles to go around. Vehicles stopped at the intersection making those left turns because of
the configuration of the intersection as it currently exists today. So that would A, help the
vehicles in the intersection on 101 making those left hand turns to have a safe location to make
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those left hand turns without potentially having a vehicle behind them. And having a rear end
collision. And then also it would help increase the traffic movement through this intersection
with not having as many delays at the intersection with the amount of traffic that potentially
stacks up at the intersection because of the left hand turns, turning vehicles that delay some of
the through movements as it currently exists. Also including in the project would be a right turn
lane on Pleasant View. There is only one lane of traffic on Pleasant View right now so any
vehicles wanting to go southbound on 101 have to wait for the vehicle, if their vehicle is heading
and trying to go left on northbound 101, for that car to clear the intersection before they can
make a right hand turn so potentially it would be a little bit more, little less delays at the
intersection with the added improvement. We also are looking at widening the intersection a
little bit. Little better shoulder that currently exists out there. There is proposed, we have some
curb and gutter on the west side of 101 north of Pleasant View Road to delineate the section of
roadway from the trail section so we have, there’s an elevated surface disconnect between the
road and the trail to separate those improvements. And then intended, extended a trail from
Pleasant View Road up to the regional trail again. That would definitely help the pedestrian
movements in this area that are documented. There are a lot of folks that use this section of road
to get from the existing trail on 101 up to the trails on 62 and right now it’s really not a safe
condition to use the shoulder of the road since it is fairly narrow in this area and some of the
banks are fairly steep so making that improvement would definitely help the situation out there
as it currently exists. And then drainage improvements on 101 and Pleasant View would also be
included. Some storm sewer would be added. Extending the trail on Pleasant View Road to the
west to the existing trail crossing is about 1,600 feet to the west and then adding curb and gutter
on Pleasant View Road so. One thing we did talk to MnDOT about, and MnDOT was kind
enough to do some turning moving counts out here and take some counts, traffic counts for us
and evaluate the intersection for a signal and currently the traffic volumes and the accidents that
we see out there do not meet the threshold for MnDOT to warrant or allow for a signal to go in at
this intersection at this time so staff is still monitoring the intersection. If anything changes in
the future in terms of delays or additional delays or anything else that would warrant a signal we
would request that MnDOT install a signal at that time. So here’s a drawing of some of the
improvements that are planned for the intersection of 101 and Pleasant View. North again is to
the right here so this is northbound 101 so as it is today so this shows the left hand turn lane at
the intersection. Likewise at the southbound turn lane into Pleasant View Road. The Eden
Prairie. The yellow shows some of the widening and the shoulder work that will be going on at
the intersection so there is some substantial widening basically on the, more on the east side than
on the west side so lengthening out the turn lanes to meet current requirements for stacking as
well. Improve shoulders as shown here in blue. There’s some steep grades out there so better
shoulders would help traffic in this area as well. Shoulders on the east side as well. We’ve
proposed to relocate the trail as it currently exists today south of Pleasant View Road. We have
to push that trail to the east, or to the west farther to get some separation from the back of curb
there so there is some easements that would have to be acquired to make that trail
accommodation. And then again the right hand turn lane on Pleasant View onto southbound 101
is part of the improvements as well. Curb and gutter again would be along Pleasant View and
101 at this location here and storm sewer as well. Lengthening out the turn lane to this location
is one of the improvements. The trail will be 10 foot wide on 101 and approximately a 6 foot
boulevard is anticipated. Green space between the back of curb and the trail. Going north here
this is Pleasant View intersection is down here. Going north, here’s the trail extents again on the
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west side of 101. The curb would tie into the existing curb out here so the black line shows
where the new curb would be and then again storm sewer would be constructed on the west side
of 101. The trail extended all the way up to Highway 62 or Town Line Drive as you go west
there. There would have to be a retaining wall because of the grades out here at this location for
extent of the trail so those would necessitate easements from property owners at this location too
so if we move forward with the project and we’re going to have a neighborhood meeting here,
and I’ll get to that, and identify the needed easements for the improvements. Shown here is
Pleasant View Road improvements so 101 is to the right here and as you go west, Near Mountain
is an intersection. Nearest intersection for pedestrians. Ramps would be improved here.
Currently Pleasant View is a rural section road so curb and gutter is proposed to be on the north
side. We’re not looking at putting any curb and gutter on the south side at this time. But most of
the improvements, or all the improvements will be to the north. There will have to be some
retaining walls out here because of the grades as well so we’re looking at needing some
temporary construction easements from some of the property owners out here for those
improvements as well. The trail extension would be extended to the Near Mountain trail as it
crosses Pleasant View Road so that would be the terminus of the trail section. It’s about 1,600
feet from the west terminus of the trail to the new trail to 101. And then curb and gutter would
be extended farther to the west and the section in back of the road would be graded out a little
better than it is right now. Currently there’s a ditch section and we’re looking at, they’re
anticipating putting some sewer in there to try to clean up that area so it’s more manageable and
easier to maintain in the future. That’s basically the improvements in a nutshell. The total
estimated project cost to date is $775,000. The State grant that you’re, we’re eligible for is a
max of $594,000 and MnDOT indicated that would be a lump sum payment for these
improvements. Included in that is about $44,000 for engineering. The offsetting cost that the
City would have to pick up would be for all the improvements on Pleasant View Road. That
includes the trail and the turn lane on Pleasant View Road. The right hand turn, the right turn
lane. And then curb and gutter and then storm sewer improvements as well so identified here
would be the funding sources as they are budgeted to date for those improvements. If the project
moves forward we anticipate the next step would be to have a neighborhood meeting. We’re
looking at the first week in March and coming back with a feasibility study and authorization for
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the staff to proceed with plans and specs on March 14. Currently we are out surveying this
area. Trying to get some information for plans and specs. As we move forward we anticipate
submitting 90% plans to MnDOT the end of April. That’s the biggest timeframe. The biggest
lag in the schedule to get authorization from MnDOT. There’s several departments that it has to
run through to get comments on for actual letting us bid out the project so there’s kind of a
significant window there. And then once we get the final plans and specs done we’re
anticipating another meeting before construction and then a City Council approval sometime in
June for the plans to be authorized for bids. And then awarding the contract, construction
contract in August and starting the project in September with the substantial completion in
October of this year yet so pretty aggressive schedule that’s laid out if we want to try to get the
project completed this year. Otherwise if we’re delayed because of MnDOT review or whatever,
other factors may exist, we potentially would like to push the project back to probably spring of
2012 because it is king of a lengthy project and weather conditions in September-October can,
and later can get problematic for construction of these type of improvements so just make you
aware of that. And then that’s basically all I had to share with you tonight. If there’s any
questions or comments I’d be more than happy to try to answer at this time.
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Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions for Mr. Oehme.
Councilman Laufenburger: I do. Mr. Oehme, what participation from the City of Eden Prairie
have you had with this project?
Paul Oehme: We had a conversation with Eden Prairie, oh it was about a month ago now and
they, we actually had a conversation before we actually applied for the funds. The grant funds
too and at this time they’re, they don’t see as much benefit for these improvements in Eden
Prairie. A lot of the traffic for their residents end up going off of Dell and accessing their house
and their property through other means so.
Councilman Laufenburger: And Dell is a light controlled intersection isn’t it?
Paul Oehme: It is a light controlled intersection, yes.
Councilman Laufenburger: So no benefit that they’re willing to accept?
Paul Oehme: Not at this time. Todd Gerhardt and I met with them about a month ago and
they’re not willing to, they didn’t see the benefit for their residents at this time so.
Councilman Laufenburger: Thank you Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: Some of the construction takes place on the east side of 101. Are they being
cooperative in terms of, from that regard?
Paul Oehme: Yeah I think they are. They are. At this time we’re not anticipating to need any
easements or right-of-way from any of the property owners in Eden Prairie. We, all the storm
water that currently is in this intersection ends up in Eden Prairie’s system so they are willing to
work with us on allowing for additional impervious surface to end up in their system. We have
to make some modifications I think for rate control and I think we can accomplish that in either
the pond that exists there today or some ditch sections so they, they’re willing to work with us on
those improvements but I think financially they’re a little reluctant at this time.
Mayor Furlong: Other questions for Mr. Oehme at this time? I have a few. I guess first of all
with regard to this intersection, what problems have we seen from a safety and mobility
standpoint? I think you touched on that but it sounds like most of it’s on the Chanhassen side in
terms of the problems.
Paul Oehme: Right. I think most of it’s on the Chanhassen side. The delays on Pleasant View I
think contribute to the accident rates at this intersection I think especially in the peak periods.
The A.M. and P.M. time frames. I think there’s vehicles that are a little anxious to get out of the
intersection and we see some, some kind of a t-bone type of hits at this intersection which kind
of relates back to spacing and traffic gaps along 101 which feel that the turn lanes will help clear
out that intersection. Make the traffic move more fluidly through this area and help, and help
reduce the amount of delays on Pleasant View.
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Mayor Furlong: It sounds like these improvements are very similar to some of the improvements
that were made over on Powers Boulevard in terms of some of the intersection I’m thinking,
Lake Lucy and Powers Boulevard. The turn lane on Pleasant View is similar to the turn lane that
the City added to Lake Lucy a number of years ago when we upgraded Lake Lucy and with the
County improvements to Powers Boulevard, adding in left turn lanes. It sounds like it’s a similar
type of an engineering improvement to the road. Is that?
Paul Oehme: Absolutely. Yep, they’re very consistent with the improvements that took place
last summer on Powers Boulevard, especially at Lake Lucy.
Mayor Furlong: Have we seen any improvements on Powers Boulevard in terms of, and it’s a
short period of time I understand but in terms of traffic flow, safety? I know that a number of
people were cited for illegally passing on the right. Passing a car that’s turning left to, by going
through the turn lane. That opportunity exists here right now. I assume that those have been
reduced if there’s no reason to pass.
Paul Oehme: Yeah I’d have to talk with our law enforcement about that intersection but in terms
of accidents on Lake Lucy and that stretch of road that has those turn lanes, I’m not aware of any
accidents that have taken place so. It’s brand new so we’re going to have to wait and monitor it
and see if those improvements really do add a beneficial effect to that area.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. I will say as an antidotal evidence, I’ve received a lot of positive
comments from residents that drive Powers Boulevard and drive Lake Lucy to the improvements
that were made so, people that are driving it that I’ve talked to certainly appreciate it. Mr.
Hoffman you’re here. Maybe you could give us some, a little bit on the trail improvements and
the benefits that you see. Has the park commission seen these plans or will they see it as part of
the, we’ll try to get it to them and as part of the process here.
Todd Hoffman: Yes.
Mayor Furlong: Once they’re more specific. Maybe you could give us a little background on
how you see the benefits from our trail system to some of these improvements being proposed.
Todd Hoffman: Glad to Mr. Mayor, members of the council. The park commission has not seen
this specific set of plans but they’ve seen, in fact the plan set that this trail system was based off
of was developed by the Park and Rec Commission. Park commission takes a look at gap
sections and so as we finish out our trail section, trail system they’re interested in finishing those
final links and when Highway 101, the trail along the west side of Highway 101 north was
constructed it was stopped at Pleasant View at that time, but that future connection, that last
piece from Pleasant View to Town Line and then the piece along Pleasant View to get the folks
farther west on Pleasant View was left out. So the commission has been taking a look at this.
Budgeting it. Taking it. Put it in the budget. Taking it out of the budget. The last time it was
costed out as an individual project it was somewhere in the range of $400,000 and so they have
not forwarded that as a recommendation to the council simply out of cost and so when this
opportunity came up, I was happy to work with Paul to take a look and see if they could get it
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included as part of the grant opportunity. Originally MnDOT said they perhaps might not be
interested. Paul continued to push the issue and so they were, came ahead and put the trail into
the project so it finishes those last final segments. It connects residents up to Eden Prairie and
Minnetonka. Connects people to the park at North Lotus Lake Park. It really finishes off a nice
section of trail system that’s been missing in our community for some period of time and the
park commission, I can’t speak for them but I would think they’d be fully supportive of the
project. We talked about it at their last meeting because it does include their $95,000 of
matching dollars so. We’ll present it to them in full detail at a future meeting but they’re aware
of it and they’re excited about the project.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Okay. Good, thank you. Any other thoughts? Comments on this. I
know this is an intersection that as a City we’ve been watching it carefully and Mr. Oehme you
mentioned that MnDOT has been helpful and cooperative in terms of monitoring this intersection
from a safety standpoint so it’s nice to see some improvements taking place that should help with
both safety and mobility in this area.
Paul Oehme: Absolutely.
Mayor Furlong: So good to see. Good to see and I think your comments about the timing of the
construction project, it looks like we’re starting in September if everything goes alright.
Paul Oehme: Right.
Mayor Furlong: We’ll just have to be wise when we look at that and make sure that we don’t try
to squeeze something in if it’s not going to fit. But certainly work forward diligently to try to get
it completed as soon as possible.
Paul Oehme: Yeah we do have time in terms of when the grant dollars have to be spent by so we
do have some flexibility there.
Mayor Furlong: Are we doing the engineering in-house or is that being done outside?
Paul Oehme: No we have to hire an engineer to do this. This is a little bit above our staffing and
time…
Mayor Furlong: Will the City be the lead agency on this?
Paul Oehme: We will be the lead agency. MnDOT will have to review the plans and approve
them but we’ll have to put all the plans together. All the notifications and all the names and all
the meetings and so forth.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Can you bring up the calendar again? The schedule of events. So the
first opportunity for residents to be involved would be next month at the neighborhood meetings?
Paul Oehme: Right and we’re looking the first week in March. We haven’t picked a date yet
but.
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Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Paul Oehme: And we’ll have another neighborhood meeting someplace, some time in June
before the City Council considers authorizing us to bid out the project too so there are two
notices there. Inbetween those two neighborhood meetings we’ll definitely have to have some
additional neighborhood interactions too because there are some easements, construction
easements, permanent easements that we’ll need from some of the property owners too so I’m
sure we’re going to have a lot of on site discussions too with neighbors.
Mayor Furlong: Very good. Thank you. Anything else? No? Very good, thank you. There is
no action required of the council this evening on this item but I thank Mr. Oehme and his staff
and Mr. Hoffman as well for helping us out. That completes our items of business this evening.
It’s a light agenda but let’s go ahead and move to council presentations.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS.
Mayor Furlong: I’d like to start by just extending my thanks and appreciation to Councilwoman
Tjornhom and I understand Councilman Laufenburger for their assistance and help out at Feb
Fest this last weekend. Or two weeks ago I guess it was now. Thank you for doing that. The
weather cooperated I understand and it was a good event.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: If I may step in Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: Please.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: I was, I have to make a city confession. No one tell anybody but this
is actually my first Feb Fest I had attended. I’m not necessarily a cold weather sports person or
ice fisher person, men, women whatever so, it was fun to see actually. Over 1,000 holes were
drilled. I was shocked the lake didn’t sink. Everyone stayed dry and caught lots of cute, little
fish and I was amazed at the wonderful prizes and just the good time everybody was really
having so next year I’m going to go find some camo and tip up I guess I’m supposed to use and a
hard plastic can or whatever they were sitting on and try my luck at it myself so Mayor thank
you for letting me have that experience. It was really great and Denny, I can’t think of a better
person to be emceeing that. He was wonderful all day and so really I think we represented the
town very well without you Mayor but we missed you so I’ll challenge you next year to an ice
fishing contest.
Mayor Furlong: You’re on.
Councilman Laufenburger: I thought Councilwoman Tjornhom’s antidotes about you and your
fishing expertise or lack thereof.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: No, no Denny. You weren’t supposed to talk about that.
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Councilman Laufenburger: Quite appropriate. Quite appropriate. But I think everybody had
fun. Weather cooperated. It was a, it’s just amazing to see how many people come together to
support, to make this event happen led by Todd and Jerry and specifically John Stutzman, the
park and recreation department but the Rotary was there. Camp Tanadoona was there. Culver’s
must have gotten rid of I don’t know, thousands of burgers so it was a fun event. Great thing to
do.
Mayor Furlong: Well and our area businesses contribute the prizes.
Councilman Laufenburger: Absolutely.
Mayor Furlong: So when you’re talking about the great prizes that are there, that’s from our
local businesses and we appreciate that. Todd, Mr. Hoffman, anything you want to talk about for
Feb Fest?
Todd Hoffman: Absolutely. Thank you all for helping. Over 200 fish caught and registered.
Record number of fish caught and unlike a fishing contest which finished up this Saturday in
Alexandria where they caught zero fish for two and a half thousand people, hard to explain that
so it was nice to see a great crowd. The weather helps and again just appreciate having everyone
come out and help and the Rotary does a tremendous job. Culver’s. Camp Tanadoona. The
library. The medallion hunt you’ll remember, don’t forget the medallion hunt.
Mayor Furlong: Right. Friends of the Library.
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Todd Hoffman: …and people get very excited about that so coming up on our 19 year and then
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soon to be our 20 anniversary so we’ll see you all back on the ice next year.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: One thing mayor if I do catch the fish, will you take it off the hook
for me?
Mayor Furlong: Absolutely. Absolutely. Very good. Other council presentations?
Councilman Laufenburger: If I may.
Mayor Furlong: Please.
Councilman Laufenburger: Over the last 2 weeks I’ve had the pleasure of being part of two
business openings here in Chanhassen. First of all Fitness Revolution. This is located at 530
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West 79 Street, Suite 120. Justin Yule is the owner and proprietor of this. He’s been operating
inside the Chanhassen Rec Center for the last 16 months or so and had a wonderful relationship
and built a clientele and now decided to follow his own advice to have faith and take action and
now he has a wonderful location for his, listen to this. Look Great at the Lake Boot Camp. And
he has, by the way he has openings at both 6:00 a.m. and 9:30 for any council members or
anybody in the public. He also has an upcoming event called Buns and Guns and I’m not young
enough to know and understand exactly what that means but I don’t think it has anything to do
with hot dogs or artillery but he’s got great experience. He’s got great experience in the fitness
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business. He’s excited to help people achieve their goals through exercise, nutrition, education
and socialization so congratulations to Justin and Fitness Revolution. The other one is a new
clinic in town called Physicians Diagnostics and Rehabilitation. They’re located at 18912 Lake
Drive East, right near the, just east of McDonald’s on the frontage road there. Owner Todd
Ginkle now has opened, this is his fifth facility. He also has offices in Burnsville, Edina,
Maplewood, and Coon Rapids. His is a very specialized facility focusing on pain in the back,
neck and spine and he’ll employ about 50 people across all of his clinics and I bring this up
because he was especially complimentary of city staff in helping him during his location and his
business set up here in Chanhassen. I was pleased with his comments but not surprised so, and
of course I want to say thanks to the Southwest Chamber of Commerce for their work in
welcoming these new businesses to the community so thank you Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Other council presentations? I attended the Excel meeting. This is
the meeting sponsored by the Carver County. Brings together the cities and townships and such
earlier this month and was topics there or discussed were the fiber loop ring. That’s going to be
one of our items on our work sessions coming up to get an update there as well as the county
road plan and some of their plans for improving county roads. The Highway 5 improvements
which we were talking about earlier this evening at our work session and will continue tonight is
certainly something that they’re involved in as well. They have a number of projects that they’re
looking at and I think some of those are going to come back too, or come to us through work
sessions or while they’re here in the next year or so, so just wanted to share that with everybody
that I was there. And then finally I will say that in addition to Feb Fest I didn’t see any other
members of the council at the Daddy-Daughter Date Night this last Saturday but I can tell you
that unfortunately there was a photographer there that I’m paranoid. I think he was following me
around right during the chicken dance and the hokey pokey and, but I will, I do want to say that’s
a great event that again our park board puts on. No, it wasn’t Forrest. But park department puts
that on. It’s a great event. It’s Friday and Saturday night and if there are any dads out there that
want to have fun with their young daughters, that’s a great way to do it next February and a lot of
fun. It’s 2 hours of just focusing on your daughters so my personal thanks to the park
department for their efforts and I know I extend that for all the other parents and fathers that
were there on both Friday and Saturday nights so thank you for that.
Todd Hoffman: Thank you.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS:
Mayor Furlong: Ms. Hokkanen, good evening. I almost called your Mr. Gerhardt but I didn’t.
Laurie Hokkanen: I’d take it as a compliment.
Mayor Furlong: That’s very nice of you but you shouldn’t have to. Administrative update.
Laurie Hokkanen: You covered most of what I had on my list but I did want to let you know that
we learned that the DNR opened Lake Lucy for liberalized fishing today and asked Mr. Hoffman
to expound on what that means.
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Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Todd Hoffman: Mr. Mayor, members of the council. From time to time the DNR opens lakes in
the state for liberalized fishing due to low oxygen levels and with the snow cover coming on in
November it reduces the sun light that penetrates our lakes and starts the decomposition of plant
material and other nutrients which are in the lake earlier. That actually takes oxygen out of the
lakes and so there are many lakes in Hennepin County, Carver County. Lake Lucy has been
opened as of noon today. This will come as a shock to some of the area residents and what it
provides for is, any licensed fisherperson in the state of Minnesota can go to Lake Lucy and take
fish in any quantity for their personal use in just about any manner. So they can take over the
limit of fish. Any amount. Any species and the restricted, you cannot use seines, hoop nets, fike
nets or explosives but you can. You can use gill nets. You can use spears.
Mayor Furlong: Guns and buns okay?
Todd Hoffman: So if you hear rumblings around the community about liberalized fishing, this is
the first time that I recall a lake in Chanhassen being opened. It will cause alarm to some of our
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residents. It may, it only lasts through February 28 so it may never catch on but you might see
some increased activity on Lake Lucy.
Mayor Furlong: I guess in that question because the purpose here is to reduce.
Todd Hoffman: Take fish before they die.
Mayor Furlong: Before they die. Low oxygen levels. Do we have an aerator working on Lake
Susan now?
Todd Hoffman: Lake Susan is fine for oxygen but Lake Lucy is not.
Mayor Furlong: Is not.
Todd Hoffman: The question mark here is Lake Lucy is down to about 2 parts per million at the
surface, just under the ice, but about .7. Fish start to die at about .1 but Lake Lucy was low a
couple of years ago and there was not a winter kill so I think if you hear concerns from residents
it’s going to be that it’s been low before and they did not winter kill and so I think you’re going
to hear that some residents are disappointed that the DNR chose to open up Lake Lucy.
Councilman Laufenburger: How about the thickness of the ice. Is there a safety concern there?
Todd Hoffman: No. Plenty thick. Really what leads to low oxygen is that snow cover that’s
been on for so long. There’s little light penetration. If you do get some light penetration over
the winter you still can get photosynthesis with the plants but not with this big of snow.
Mayor Furlong: Other items?
Laurie Hokkanen: No sir.
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Mayor Furlong: Okay. Thank you for sitting in this evening. Mr. Gerhardt is not with us so I
want to make sure we’re on record thanking you for your service, both at the work session and at
the meeting.
Laurie Hokkanen: You’re welcome.
Mayor Furlong: Any questions for Ms. Hokkanen or the other city staff members? No? Okay.
Very good.
CORRESPONDENCE DISCUSSION.
None.
Mayor Furlong: If there’s nothing else to come before the council this evening, we will be
continuing our unfinished work session items and we’re going to stay right here in the council
chambers to do that. We just won’t be on cable TV so, with that if there’s nothing else to come
before the council this evening is there a motion to adjourn. Happy Valentine’s Day everybody.
Councilman Laufenburger moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded to adjourn the
meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. The
City Council meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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