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8. Americinn Motel Site Plan.
�� CITY OF CI3ANHASSEN I PC DATE: November 6. 1996 December 4, 1996 CC DATE: December 16, 1996 CASE #: 96 -13 SPR � STAFF REPORT PROPOSAL: a LOCATION: APPLICANT: Site plan approval for a 45,505 sq. ft. Americinn Motel and Suites facility on 3.5 acres East of Great Plains Blvd. and south of Hwy. 5 - Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the Ponds John Seibert 18202 Minnetonka Boulevard Deephaven, MN 55391 (612) 476 -2600 Northcott Company 18202 Minnetonka Boulevard Deephaven, MN 55391 (612) 476 -2600 PRESENT ZONING: PUD as part of Villages on the Ponds F� ACREAGE: 3.5 acres ADJACENT ZONING AND LAND USE: N - BH, Highway 5 S - PUD, Villages on the Ponds E - PUD, Villages on the Ponds W - IOP, Rosemount WATER AND SEWER: Available to the site PHYSICAL CHARACTER: The site contains mature trees with meandering elevations. It is proposed to be mass graded as part of the subdivision as soon as the City receives a signed Development Contract and appropriate financial security. 2000 LAND USE PLAN: Mixed Use - Commercial, High Density Residential, Institutional and Office as part of Villages on the Ponds 4 C", ll,- L t --- j PAP "Tel MIR - 73C I — 74C 1 0 0 0 Ch H I eDr !� �r 9th St- C hanhassen J \ L S 4,Ji ffetates *esielll ml al Park State Hw 5 ✓ ✓✓ — ��v' C C RICO Mar h ' , �.' ► % Lake P r Lake' Susan u Rice arsh Lake ��.. ' � � \ � � i` ^�, '. '('.Dori -\' /�! -- ..,_.., � co LU t--ld— low 9L t 0 0 lo� 4-J 7 U U U MeL ' Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 ' Page 2 ' On November 6, 1996, the Planning Commission reviewed and tabled this application and directed the applicant to make revisions to the site plan proposal. These revisions included architectural design of the building, street furniture, pavers to carry the Villages on the Pond ' character, landscaping, color scheme, type of lighting, and signage detail. ' The applicants have been very cooperative and worked closely with staff to incorporate the requested changes. We believe that the revised plans resulted in a high quality product that meets the intent of the Villages on the Ponds. ' On December 4,1996, the Planning Commission reviewed the application again and moved to approve the site plan. This staff report has been rewritten since the changes are numerous. ' PROPOSAL /SUMMARY C The applicant is requesting site plan approval for a 45,505 sq. ft. motel and suites facility, Americinn, on 3.5 acres. An expansion of 6,870 square foot expansion is also envisioned as part of the ultimate plan for the site rendering a total of 52,375 sq. ft. The site is zoned PUD, Planned Unit Development. The property is included in the Villages on the Ponds project and is bordered by Highway 5 to the north and Market Boulevard to the west. The lot area of the site is 3.5 acres. The site is visible directly from Highway 5 and has full access from proposed Lake Drive and Main Street which are anticipated to be constructed in 1997. The plans also propose a direct access out to Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 101). Comments have been received from MNDOT and Carver County Public Works regarding this access point. Due to safety concerns and roadway geometries, both agencies recommended against direct access on to Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 10 1) from the parking lot. They suggest altering the parking lot design as staff has recommended. This issue is discussed in detail under (Access /Parking Lot Circulation). At the November 6, 1996, Planning Commission meeting, the applicants indicated that they have been engaging in discussions with the Department of Transportation and Carver County Public Works. They believe they will be able to convince these departments to allow a right - in/out only on this access point. At the meeting, staff recommended that direct access from Market Boulevard remain prohibited unless approved otherwise by MNDOT and Carver County Public Works if applicable. The site plan is for the Americinn Motel and Suites. The building is "L" shaped and is proposed to utilize painted wood as the main building material. Brick is proposed to be integrated into the building, on the chimney and at the lower base of the building. Brick also extends up to the top of the dormers giving the building a sense of relief. There are numerous decorative elements in this structure such as round columns with a square base, balconies, windows, arches, staggered roof elevations, and outdoor seating area. The applicant will provide materials at the meeting. Since the November 6th Planning Commission meeting, the applicants revised the design of the Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 3 building by additional cupolas, dormers, and balconies along the west elevation. The roof line for the entry way into the building has been raised to reflect a double pitched roof. The light fixtures reflect the design of the columns. The sidewalks have been redesigned to reflect a decorative design element that can be found throughout the overall design of the Villages on the Ponds. Benches and flower boxes have also been added. Parking is proposed along Highway 5, and east and south of the proposed building. Staff struggled with this idea. On the one hand, the Villages on the Ponds standards require buildings to face proposed Main Street with parking placed behind them. This scenario places parking along Highway 5. On the other hand, the Highway 5 Corridor Study prohibits parking along the corridor. Staff also examined the future overall development, specifically when the adjacent parcel to the east is developed. The proposed parking lot could potentially double in size. We have arrived at a workable solution. The firm of BRW has been commissioned to develop a comprehensive landscape plan for the Villages on the Ponds project. This plan is subject to approval by the City. The landscape plan, specifically along Highway 5, has been improved drastically by illuminating parking spaces and replacing them with a green space area which incorporates berms, meandering trails, and landscaping. The buildings will require 78 parking spaces. The applicant is providing 98 spaces. Staff is recommending approval of the site plan with conditions in the staff report and subject to the final PUD agreement for Villages on the Ponds. BACKGROUND The proposed development is included in the Villages on the Ponds project which received conceptual PUD approval on December 11, 1995. Villages on the Ponds received preliminary PUD approval on August 12, 1996 and final PUD approval on September 23, 1996. The plat is in the process of being recorded with Carver County. GENERAL SITE PLAN /ARCHITECTURE The building is "L" shaped and is stepped up from one to three stories with 76 rooms /suites. The exterior of the building is proposed to utilize painted wood as the main material. Brick is proposed to be integrated into the building, on the chimney and the lower portion of the building. Brick is also added along the entire length of the walls below dormers. There are numerous decorative elements in this structure such as columns, balconies, angular windows, arches, staggered roof elevations, and outdoor seating area. Since the November 6th Planning Commission meeting, the applicant revised the design of the building by additional cupolas, dormers, and balconies along the west elevation. The roof line for the entry way into the building has been raised to reflect a double pitched roof. The light fixtures reflect the design of the C r C' I u Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 4 columns. The sidewalks have been redesigned to reflect a decorative design element that can be found throughout the overall design of the Villages on the Ponds. Benches and flower boxes have also been added to comply with the PUD requirement to incorporate street furniture within the development. As part of the Villages on the Ponds Development, design standards have been established for subsequent development of the individual properties. DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS I a. Intent ' The purpose of this zone is to create a mixed use PUD consisting of commercial, institutional, office, and residential uses. The use of the PUD zone is to allow for more flexible design standards while creating a higher quality and more sensitive proposal. All utilities are required to ' be placed underground. Each lot proposed for development shall proceed through site plan review based on the development standards outlined below. b. Permitted Uses The permitted uses in this zone should be limited to uses as defined below or similar uses to those as listed in the Standard Industrial Classification. If there is a question as to the whether or not a use meets the definition, the Planning Director shall make that interpretation. No single retail user shall exceed 20,000 square feet on a single level of a building. A maximum of thirty- ' three (33) percent of the square footage of the retail users within the development may be of a "big box" category. The intent of this requirement is to provide a variety of users, including small retail shops, service providers, coffee shops, cabarets, etc., for residents of the Villages as ' well as the community as a whole, rather than typical suburban type large, individual users dominating the development and detracting from the "village" character. Retail users should be those that support and compliment the residential development located within the development, ' providing goods and services which enhance residents of the village and the community. Office Professional and business office, non - retail activity except for showroom type ' display area for products stored or manufactured on -site provided that no more than 20 percent of the floor space is used for such display and sales. bank/credit union finance, insurance and real estate ' health services - except nursing homes and hospitals engineering, accounting, research management and related services legal services r Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 5 Personal Services Establishments primarily engaged in providing services involving the care of a person or his or her personal goods or apparel. dry cleaning beauty or barbershop shoe repair photographic studio tax return preparation laundromat health club optical goods computer services day care center copying mail stores Institutional Establishments that are public /semi - public in nature. church library education services day care art gallery dance studio cultural facility Commercial/Retail Establishments engaged in commercial operations including retail sales and services and hospitality industries. Apparel and Accessory Stores shoe stores electronic and music store and musical instruments restaurant - no drive through restaurant - fast food only if integrated into a building no freestanding fast food and no drive through drug store /pharmacy book/stationary jewelry store hobby /toy game gift novelty and souvenir Ii 7 ' Americinn Motel and Suites ' November 6, 1996 Page 6 sewing, needlework and piece good 1 florist camera and photographic supply ' art and art supplies, gallery sporting goods video rental food stores including bakery and confectionery hardware store computer store ' hotel /motel entertainment liquor store ' pets and pet supplies home furnishings ' Residential Residential units shall be provided as upper level units above the commercial /office uses within the village core and as stand alone units. A minimum of 50 percent of the residential units shall be rental units. Of the rental units, the city has adopted a goal of 35 percent of the units meeting the Metropolitan Council's affordable criteria. For the ownership housing, the city has adopted the goal of 50 percent of the units meeting the Metropolitan Council's affordable criteria. ' Prohibited Uses: I auto related including auto sales, auto repair, gas stations � I 'J C. Setbacks In the PUD standards, there is the requirement for landscape buffering in addition to building and parking setbacks. The following setbacks shall apply: Building Parking Great Plains Blvd.: Buffer yard & Setback C, 0' 0' Market Blvd.: Buffer yard & Setback C, 50' 20' Hwy. 5: Buffer yard & Setback B, 50' 20' Interior Side Lot Line: Buffer yard & setback NA, 0' 0' East Perimeter Side Lot Line (adjacent to D, 50' 50' Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 7 residential): Buffer yard & setback Commercial/ Office /Service West Perimeter Side Lot Line (adjacent to industrial): Buffer yard & setback B, 50 20 Buffer yards are as specified in the City of Chanhassen Landscaping and Tree Removal Ordinance, Article XXV. No fences shall be permitted between the required landscape buffer and arterial and collector roads. CL Development Site Coverage and Building Height 1. The PUD standard for hard surface coverage is 70% for the overall development. Individual lots may exceed this threshold, but in no case shall the average exceed 70 percent. 2. More than one (1) principal structure may be placed on one (1) platted lot. 3. The maximum building height shall be Sector I - three stories (with residential loft) /50 ft (retail and office buildings without residences above shall be limited to two stories /30 feet), Sector II - three stories /40 ft., Sector III - three stories /40 ft., exclusive of steeples and bell towers, and Sector IV - four stories /50 feet 4. The maximum building footprint for any one building shall be limited to 20,000 square feet without a street level break in the continuity of the building, e.g., pedestrian passageways, except for the church and residential only buildings. 5. The following table shall govern the amount of building area for the different uses: @ As an alternative, the office /service could be increase by 13,000 square feet in Sector I if the 32,000 square foot office building is deleted in Sector IV and replaced with 56 additional dwelling units. L 7 1 r t Commercial/ Office /Service Institutional Dwelling TOTAL sq. ft. Retail (sq. ft.) (sq. ft.) (sq. ft.) Units Sector I 114,500 70,500 @ 0 154 185,000 Sector II 60,000 * 14,000 0 0 74,000 Sector III 0 0 100,000 0 100,000 Sector IV 0 32,000 @ 0 112 @ 32,000 TOTAL 174,500 116,500 100,000 266 391,000 @ As an alternative, the office /service could be increase by 13,000 square feet in Sector I if the 32,000 square foot office building is deleted in Sector IV and replaced with 56 additional dwelling units. L 7 1 r t ' Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 ' Page 8 ' * Includes 47,200 square foot, 106 unit motel. Building square footages may be reallocated between sectors subject to approval by the Planning ' Director. Building square footages may be reallocated between uses subject to approval of the Planning Director. However, the reallocation of building square footages between uses shall only be permitted to a less intensive use, i.e. from commercial to office or institutional, or from office to institutional. In no instance shall more than 27,000 square feet of addition institutional building square footage be reallocated without an amendment to the PUD. e. Building Materials and Design ' 1_ The PUD requires that the development demonstrate a higher quality of architectural standards and site design. The intent is to create a pedestrian friendly, "traditional" village character consistent with the European heritage of the upper midwest and the atmosphere within this development, yet with the amenities and technological tools of modern times. The village elevations shown on the PUD drawings are to be used only as a general guideline and the reflection of the overall village image including the north - midwestem architectural vocabulary, village like human scale and flavor, and variety in design and facade treatment. ' 2. All materials shall be of high quality and durable. Major exterior surfaces of all walls shall be face brick, stone, glass, stucco, architecturally treated concrete, cast in place panels, ' decorative block, cedar siding, vinyl siding in residential with support materials, or approved equivalent as determined by the city. Color shall be introduced through colored block or panels and not painted block or brick. Bright, long, continuous bands are prohibited. Bright or brilliant colors and sharply contrasting colors may be used only for accent purposes and shall not exceed 10 percent of a wall area. 3. Block shall have a weathered face or be polished, fluted, or broken face. Exposed cement ( "cinder ") blocks shall be prohibited. ' 4. Metal siding, gray concrete, curtain walls and similar materials will not be approved except as support material to one of the above materials, or as trim or as HVAC screen, and may not exceed more than 25 percent of a wall area. 5. All accessory structures shall be designed to be compatible with the primary structure. ' 6. All roof mounted equipment shall be screened by walls of compatible appearing material. Wood screen fences are prohibited. All exterior process machinery, tanks, etc., are to be 11. Slope roof elements shall be incorporated in all structures: Sector I - minimum 70 percent of roof area shall be sloped, Sector II - minimum of 70 percent of the roof area shall be sloped, Sector III - minimum of 30 percent of the roof area shall be sloped, and Sector IV - minimum of 70 percent of the roof area shall be sloped. An exception to this requirement are roof areas designed for human use such as decks, garden areas, patios, etc., which will not be counted towards flat roof area. ' 12. The following design elements should be incorporated into individual structures: Building Accents Towers, silos, arches, columns, bosses, tiling, cloisters, colonnades, buttresses, loggias, I marquees, minarets, portals, reveals, quoins, clerestories, pilasters. Roof Types I Barrow, dome, gable, hip, flat. Roof Accents ' ' Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 9 , fully screened by compatible materials. All mechanical equipment shall be screened with material compatible to the building. , 7. The buildings shall have varied and interesting detailing. The use of large unadorned, concrete panels and concrete block, or a solid wall unrelieved by architectural detailing, ' such as change in materials, change in color, fenestrations, or other significant visual relief provided in a manner or at intervals in keeping with the size, mass, and scale of the wall and its views from public ways shall be prohibited. Acceptable materials will incorporate textured surfaces, exposed aggregate and/or other patterning. All walls shall be given added architectural interest through building design or appropriate landscaping. 8. Space for recycling shall be provided in the interior of all principal or accessory structures. , 9. There shall not be underdeveloped backsides of buildings. All elevations shall receive nearly equal treatment and visual qualities. The materials and colors used for each building g shall be selected in context with the adjacent building and provide for a harmonious integration with them. Extreme variations between buildings on the same street in terms of overall appearance, bulk and height, setbacks and colors shall be prohibited. 11. Slope roof elements shall be incorporated in all structures: Sector I - minimum 70 percent of roof area shall be sloped, Sector II - minimum of 70 percent of the roof area shall be sloped, Sector III - minimum of 30 percent of the roof area shall be sloped, and Sector IV - minimum of 70 percent of the roof area shall be sloped. An exception to this requirement are roof areas designed for human use such as decks, garden areas, patios, etc., which will not be counted towards flat roof area. ' 12. The following design elements should be incorporated into individual structures: Building Accents Towers, silos, arches, columns, bosses, tiling, cloisters, colonnades, buttresses, loggias, I marquees, minarets, portals, reveals, quoins, clerestories, pilasters. Roof Types I Barrow, dome, gable, hip, flat. Roof Accents ' Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 10 Cupolas, cornices, belfries, turrets, pinnacles, look -outs, gargoyles, parapets, lanterns. Accent elements such as towers, turrets, spires, etc., shall be excluded from the sector building height limitation. Window Types Bay, single paned, multi - paned, angular, square, rectangular, half - round, round, italianate. Window Accents Plant boxes, shutters, balconies, decks, grates, canopies, awnings, recesses, embrasures, arches, lunettes. 13. Street level windows shall be provided for a minimum of 50 percent of the ground level wall area. £ Site Landscaping and Screening 1. All buffer landscaping, including boulevard landscaping, included in Phase I shall be installed when the grading of the phase is completed. This may well result in landscaping being required ahead of individual site plan approvals, but we believe the buffer yard and plantings, in particular, need to be established immediately. In addition, to adhere to the higher quality of development as spelled out in the PUD zone, all loading areas shall be screened. Each lot for development shall submit a separate landscaping plan as a part of the site plan review process. 2. All open spaces and non - parking lot surfaces, except for plaza area, shall be landscaped, rockscaped, or covered with plantings and/or lawn material. Tree wells shall be included in pedestrian areas and plazas. 3. Storage of material outdoors is prohibited. 4. Undulating or angular berms 3' to 5' in height, south of Highway 5 and along Market Boulevard shall be sodded or seeded at the conclusion of grading and utility construction. The required buffer landscaping may be installed where it is deemed necessary to screen any proposed development. All required boulevard landscaping shall be sodded. I 5. Loading areas shall be screened from public right -of -ways. Wing walls may be required where deemed appropriate. it Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 11 6. Native species shall be incorporated into site landscaping, whenever possible. g. Signage One project identification sign shall be permitted for the development at each end of Lake Drive and at the south end of Main Street. Project identification sign(s) may also be located at the entrances to the development(s) in Sector IV. Project identification signs shall not exceed 24 square feet in sign display area nor be greater than five feet in height. One project identification sign, with a maximum height of 20 feet, which may be increased in height subject to city approval based on the design and scale of the sign, designed as a gateway to the project shall be located at the north end of Main Street. Individual lots are not permitted low profile ground business sign. Within Sector III, one sign for the church and one sign for the school may be placed on streetscape walls. The top of the signs shall not extend more than eight feet above the ground and the total sign area for the signs shall not exceed 64 square feet. Pylon signs are prohibited. The sign treatment is an element of the architecture and thus should reflect the quality of the development. The signs should be consistent in color, size, and material and height throughout the development. A common theme will be introduced at the development's entrance monument and will be used throughout. 2. All signs require a separate sign permit. 3. Wall business signs shall comply with the city's sign ordinance for the central business district for determination of maximum sign area. Wall signs may be permitted on the "street" front and primary parking lot front of each building. 4. Projecting signs are permitted along Main Street and Lake Drive and along pedestrian passageways subject to the conditions below. Signage Plan and Restrictions Wall Signs 1. The location of letters and logos shall be restricted to the approved building sign bands, the tops of which shall not extend greater than 20 feet above the ground. In Sector II, sign height may be increase based on the criteria that the signage is compatible with and complementary to the building architecture and design. The letters and logos shall be restricted to a maximum of 30 inches in height. All individual letters and logos comprising each sign shall be constructed of wood, metal, or translucent facing. ' Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 12 2. If illuminated, individual dimensional letters and logos comprising each sign may be any of the following: ' a. Exposed neon/fiber optic, b. Open channel with exposed neon, c. Channel Letters with acrylic facing, ' d. Reverse channel letters (halo lighted), or e. Externally illuminated by separate lighting source. 3. Tenant signage shall consist of store identification only. Copy is restricted to the tenant's proper name and major product or service offered. Corporate logos, emblems and similar identifying devices are permitted provided they are confined within the signage band and do not occupy more than 15% of the sign area unless the logo is the sign. 4. Within Sector II, architecturally, building - integrated panel tenant/logo sign may be permitted based on criteria that the signage is compatible with and complementary to the building design and architecture. 5. Back lit awnings are prohibited. Projecting Signs 1_ The letters and logos shall be restricted to the approved building sign area. 2. All wooden signs shall be sandblasted and letters shall be an integral part of the building's architecture. 3. Signage shall consist of store identification only. Copy is restricted to the tenant's proper name and major product or service offered and such minimal messages such as date of establishment of business. Corporate logos, emblems and similar identifying devices are permitted provided they are confined within the signage band or within the projecting sign and do not occupy more than fifteen (15) percent of the sign display area. ' 4. Projecting signs shall be stationary, may not be self - illuminated but may be lighted by surface mounted fixtures located on the sign or the adjacent facade. ' 5. Projecting signs shall be limited to one per tenant on street frontage and pedestrian passageway and my not exceed six square feet. Letters shall have a maximum height of ' 12 inches. Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 13 6. Projecting signs shall be a minimum of eight feet above the sidewalk and shall not project more than six feet from the building facade. 7. Plastic, plexi - glass, clear plex, or similar material projecting signs are prohibited unless used in conjunction with other decorative materials. 8. Projecting signs may be painted, prefinished, or utilize exposed metal. Any exposed metal shall be anodized aluminum, stainless steel, titanium, bronze, or other similar non- corrosive or ono - oxidizing materials. Window Signs 1. Window signs shall not cover more than 25 percent of the window area in which they are located. 2. Window signs shall not use bright, garish, or neon paint, tape, chalk, or paper. Menu Sims 1. Shall be located at eye level adjacent to tenant entries and shall not exceed 4 feet in height. 2. Shall be used only to convey daily specials, menus and offerings and shall be wood framed chalkboard and/or electronic board with temporary handwritten lettering. No paper construction or messages will be permitted. 3. Menu signs shall be limited to one per tenant and may not exceed 8 square feet. Festive Flags/Banners 1. Flags and banners shall be permitted on approved standards attached to the building facade and on standards attached to pedestrian area lighting. 2. Plastic flags and banners are prohibited. 3. Flags and banners shall be constructed of fabric. 4. Banners shall not contain advertising for individual users, businesses, services, or products. 5. Flags and banners shall project from buildings a maximum of two feet. Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 14 6. Flags and banners shall have a maximum area of 10 square feet. 7. Flags and banners which are torn or excessively worn shall be removed at the request of the city. Building Directory 1. In multi- tenant buildings, one building directory sign may be permitted. The directory sign shall not exceed eight square feet. Pole Directory Sign 1. Pole directory signs consisting of single poles with individual nameplate type directional arrows may be located within the development. 2. Pole directory sign shall not exceed 15 feet in height. 3. Directory signs shall be a minimum of eight feet above the sidewalk. 4. A maximum of eight directory signs may be provided per pole. 5. The maximum size of an individual sign shall be 18 inches long by four inches wide. 6. Poles shall be a minimum of 10 feet behind the curb. h. Lighting 1. Lighting for the interior of the business center should be consistent throughout the development. The plans do not provide for street lighting. As with previous developments, the City has required the developer to install street lights throughout the street system. 2. A shoe box fixture (high pressure sodium vapor lamps) with decorative natural colored pole shall be used throughout the development parking lot area for lighting. Decorative, pedestrian scale lighting shall be used in plaza and sidewalk areas and may be used in parking lot areas. 3 Lighting equipment similar to what is mounted in the public street right -of -ways shall be used in the private areas. Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 15 4. All light fixtures shall be shielded. Light level for site lighting shall be no more than 1/2 candle at the project perimeter property line. This does not apply to street lighting. 5. Light poles shall be limited to a height of 20 feet. i. Parking 1. Parking shall be provided based on the shared use of surface parking areas whenever possible. Cross access easements and the joint use of parking facilities shall be protected by a recorded instrument acceptable to the city. 2. A minimum of 75 percent of a building's parking shall be located to the "rear" of the structure and in underground garages. 3. The development shall be treated as a integrated shopping center and provide a minimum of one space per 200 square feet of commercial /retail area. The office /personal service component shall be treated as an integrated office building and provide 4.5 space per 1,000 square feet for the first 49,999 square feet, four per thousand square feet for the second 50,000 square feet, and 3.5 per thousand square feet thereafter. Residential uses shall provide 1.5 spaces per unit as underground parking with visitor spaces provided as part of the commercial /office uses. Within sector IV, visitor parking shall be provided at a rate of 0.5 stalls per unit. Hotel /motels shall comply with city ordinance. Churches /schools shall comply with city ordinance, however, a minimum of 50 percent of the parking shall be shared. LANDSCAPING Staff has calculated the quantities needed to meet ordinance requirements for a commercial development on Highway 5 and applicant has sufficiently met those quantity requirements with the landscaping plan submitted. A total of 52 trees, including 29 overstory, 18 understory and 5 evergreens, are designated. All trees are scheduled to be the minimum size required by ordinance. However since only 5 evergreen trees are included, the plan comes up short in the areas of parking lot screening and wind protection. Landscaping for the Americinn development must accomplish three important goals in order to meet the needs of the city and its residents. Plant materials must screen and shade the parking areas and building, provide a comfortable and safe atmosphere for pedestrians, and enhance the Highway 5 corridor. The new plan, as submitted, has retained its species diversity while also improving on its ability to provide screening of the parking area. The applicant has created berms, six to eight feet above the lowest elevation of Highway 5, along the northern parking lot boundary. In that area which is approximately 180 feet long, there will be 3 black hills spruce, 2 sugar maple, 2 American u n PJ f Americinn Motel and Suites ' November 6, 1996 Page 16 linden, 26 compact American cranberry, and 21 Isanti dogwood planted. Both the Isanti dogwood and the compact American cranberry grow to a height of 5 to 6 feet and are deciduous shrubs. The visibility from Highway 5 has been reduced, but not completely blocked. When viewing this site from Highway 5, it is essential to look at the overall development. Specifically of interest is the property located to the east of the subject site. The concept plan for ' the PUD proposes a restaurant along the southeast corner. The parking lot is proposed to be located along Highway 5. This parking lot will be contiguous to the hotel parking lot, potentially doubling the size of the proposed hotel parking lot. The Highway 5 corridor standards prohibit 1 parking lots from being located along the highway. As a compromise, staff has developed an alternate plan showing the 11 stalls located along the northern boundary of the parking lot deleted so that the trail and berm may be accommodated within that area. An undulating berm that parallels the trail and shields it from the highway and screens the parking lot as well should be incorporated. Evergreen plantings within that area should also be increased. The applicant has revised the site plan to include an undulating berm and eliminate the eleven parking spaces. Evergreen plantings in the area have not increased, but two more deciduous overstory trees have been added. These trees came from the south side of the building where, on the revised plans, there is now a sidewalk. There are sixteen additional shrubs scheduled to be planted there as well. Planting conifers along the northern boundary will not only assist in screening but also serve as wind and noise breaks. The height of the evergreens will not further inhibit sightlines of businesses to the south since the businesses will eventually be screened by the overstory trees in the parking lot. More trees need be added to the northwest corner of the property to increase the landscaped effect and create an inviting entrance. Overstory trees have not been added to the northwest corner of the property. It must also be pointed out that the firm of BRW has been commissioned to develop a comprehensive landscape plan for boulevards and perimeter of the Villages on the Pond project. This plan is subject to approval by the City. Approval of this site plan will be contingent upon incorporating this landscape plan into the site design. In spite of ' any future plans for additional landscaping, staff believes there is still room for improvement on the Americinn site. Additional overstory trees and evergreens would improve the north and northwestern areas of the property by providing buffering from the highway, increased appeal of ' the site and improving the views from the highway. The applicant has provided two islands and one peninsula that are ten feet wide, but also has two islands and one peninsula that measure only five feet wide. According to city ordinance, five feet is insufficient for good tree growth and the city requires aeration tubes to be installed in such ' instances. The applicants are aware of this and has stated they would like to avoid aeration tube installation by excavating existing soil in the islands and peninsulas and replacing it with an appropriate soil mix. This will eliminate the need for aeration because the new soil will not be compacted and consist of a beneficial soil type. Staff is still recommending that aeration tubes be installed in any island or peninsula less than five feet in width. Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 17 ACCESS /PARKING LOT CIRCULATION Access to the site will be from proposed Lake Drive and Main Street which is anticipated to be constructed in 1997 by the developer of Villages on the Ponds. The plans also propose a direct access out to Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 101). This access point has been discussed several times in the past with the preliminary and final plat of Villages on the Ponds. Staff has believed from the beginning that there should not be a direct access point given the close proximity to Trunk Highway 5. The interior parking lot and drive aisles within the Villages project have been redesigned, however, the applicant is still pursuing the direct access to Market Boulevard. Staff has reviewed traffic studies prepared by BRW and SR-F. Both studies had concerns about a full access point in this location and recommended that a right - in/right -out only be considered. Staff has received comments back from MnDOT and Carver Public Works (see attached) regarding this access point. Due to safety concerns and roadway geometrics, both agencies recommended against direct access on to Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 10 1) from the parking lot. They suggest altering the parking lot design as staff has recommended. At the November 6, 1996 Planning Commission meeting, the applicant stated that they are currently discussing this matter with MnDOT and Carver Public Works and they feel that permission will be granted to allow a right - in/out only. Staff will amend the conditions of approval by allowing the right - in/out contingent upon MnDOT and Carver Public County Works approval. The interior parking lot layout is very similar to the conceptual plan for Villages on the Ponds. Staff has concerns from a public safety standpoint with the tight turning radiuses. The parking lot configuration and drive aisle widths should be reconfigured to accommodate emergency vehicles. Staff has worked with the City's fire marshal on determining the necessary radiuses in order to facilitate the City's aerial fire truck. This will require widening drive aisles and significantly increasing radiuses on the intersections to accommodate turning movements. The applicant's engineering /architect should work with City staff in revising the parking lot layout/configuration to accommodate the City's emergency vehicles. Villages on the Ponds was envisioned as a pedestrian friendly environment. To this end, sidewalks and trails are provided within the parking lot to adjacent parcels for future extension as development progresses. UTILITIES Utilities to the site will be provided by the developer of Villages on the Ponds. This work is anticipated to commence yet this fall, however, realistically given weather conditions and short time line, next spring. The utility layout is fairly straight forward. The City's fire marshal has requested three additional fire hydrants. The plans shall be revised accordingly. F, 1 L� F II 1 Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 ' Page 18 DRAINAGE & GRADING ' Most of the site will be mass graded in conjunction with the Villages on the Ponds development. Only finish grading will be completed by the applicant. Wetland impacts /mitigation and erosion ' control measures will also be provided by the developer. Storm drainage will be conveyed via a storm sewer system into a pretreatment pond on site prior to discharging into the wetlands. An additional catch basin should be added across from catch basin/manhole no. 62 and a 15 -inch storm sewer lead provided east of catch basin no. 64 for the future parking lot drainage. MISCELLANEOUS The developer of Villages on the Ponds has signed the development /PUD contract and provided the City with security to guarantee installation of public improvements for the site, however, the final plat has not yet been recorded. Staff anticipates the plan will be recorded within the next three to four weeks. Access during construction should be coordinated with the developer (Villages on the Ponds). Construction access directly from Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 10 1) or Trunk Highway 5 ' shall be prohibited. LIGHTING /SIGNAGE ' The applicant has shown the lighting of the parking lot. However, details on the type of light has not been included in the plans. The applicant left one set of sketches showing decorative lights ' in different places around the building. They are fitting for the project but details will have to be submitted to the City. All light fixtures shall meet the criteria established in the PUD standards. ' Signage is proposed on the east, west and north elevations of the cupola. Primarily, the proposed signage complies with the PUD ordinance. However, a separate sign permit must be submitted for all site signage, except for traffic control signage. ' SITE PLAN FINDINGS ' In evaluating a site plan and building plan, the city shall consider the development's compliance with the following: ' (1) Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides, including the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may be adopted; (2) Consistency with this division; I Ll Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 19 (3) Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the general appearance of the neighboring developed or developing or developing areas; (4) Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the development; (5) Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with special attention to the followings a. An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and provision of a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general community; b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping; C. Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and neighboring structures and uses; and d. Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public streets, width of interior drives and access points, general interior circulation, separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement and amount of parking. (6) Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision for surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers, preservation of views, light and air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations which may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses. Finding: The proposed development is consistent with the comprehensive plan and is consistent with the Villages on the Ponds design requirements, the zoning ordinance, and the site plan review requirements. The site design as it relates to street furniture and architectural design, meets the intent of the PUD. The landscaping of the site could use additional improvement. In spite of any future plans for additional landscaping, staff believes there is still room for improvement on the Americinn site. Additional overstory trees and evergreens would improve the north and northwestern areas of the property by n ' Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 ' Page 20 providing buffering from the highway, increased appeal of the site and improving the ' views from the highway. The plans must be revised as it relates to landscaping along Highway 5 to become compatible with the surrounding development and enhance the open space and landscaping being established as part of the development of Villages on ' the Ponds. The site design is functional and incorporated elements from the approved development for this area. Staff is of the opinion that with all the revisions since the last Planning Commission meeting, the building meets the intent of the PUD requirements. ' PLANNING COMMISSION UPDATE ' On November 6, 1996, the Planning Commission reviewed and tabled this application and directed the applicant to make revisions to the site plan proposal. These revisions included: ' Architectural design of the building, color scheme: The Planning Commission referred to the building as one of a midwestern theme which is not what the intent of the PUD calls for. The color ' of the building (gray) was referred to as a cold color. The applicant was directed to reexamine the design and make revisions accordingly. Warmer colors were recommended. The applicant added copulas, dormers, additional balconies, redesigned the columns surrounding the buildings, changed ' colors from gray to beige, and extended the brick to the top of the building under the dormers. This redesign helped break the building and gave it relief. The Planning Commission recommended the width of the siding on the building not exceed 6 to 8 inches. Street furniture, pavers to carry the Villages on the Ponds' character, landscaping, type of lighting: The Planning Commission directed to applicant to show in detail type of street furniture used on ' site, type of street lights, flower boxes, and pavers to give the sidewalks some interest. The applicant incorporated all these suggestions into the revised plan. The attached sketches and plans reflect the type of lights, flower boxes, benches, sidewalk designs, and pavers. Signage detail: There is only one type of sign on the site. The sign is located on three facias of the copula. The Planning Commission questioned the type of sign and materials used. The applicant ' had a sample of the letters at the meeting. The Planning Commission requested detail drawings on the signage. At the December 4, 1996, Planning Commission meeting, detailed renderings were presented. The letters will be backlit. The background is proposed to be constructed of wood. The applicants have been very cooperative and have worked closely with staff to incorporate the PP rY P Y requested changes. We believe that the revised plans resulted in a high quality product that meets ' the intent of the Villages on the Ponds. ' On December 4, 1996, the Planning Commission reviewed this item again and recommended approval of the application unanimously. The Commissioners agreed that the overall plan has been improved. Some changes were recommended pertaining to the conditions of approval. These 1 Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 21 changes are shown in bold in the conditions of approval. One issue that was raised by the commission was in regard to the 6 fire hydrants requested by the Fire Marshal and if there was a need for that many. The fire hydrants are spaced at a minimum of 300 foot intervals. They are placed in locations where they can be easily accessible by the fire fighters. The building is a wood frame construction and with a high rate occupancy. The Fire Marshal explained that one of the highest rates of fatalities occur in hotels when there is a fire, because people are unfamiliar with the floor plan of the building and cannot exit the building easily. The current site plan has been revised to show 6 fire hydrants. RECOMMENDATION Staff recommends that the City Council adopt the following motion: "The City Council approves of Site Plan 96 -13 for a 45,505 square foot Americinn Motel and Suites facility as shown in plans dated October 7, 1996, subject to the following conditions: 1. More evergreens shall be planted along the northern boundary, 2_ More deciduous overstory or evergreen trees should be added to the northwest corner of the property to increase the landscaped effect. 3. Aeration tubes must be installed in islands and peninsulas less than 10 feet wide. Applicant must provide plans and insurance of success if alternatives are requested. 4. The applicants shall incorporate the comprehensive landscape plan currently being prepared by the firm of BRW, into the Americinn site plan, after City approval. 5. A separate sign permit must be submitted for all site signage, except for traffic control signage. The applicant shall submit detailed sign plans reflecting a recessed panel with individual backlit letters. 6. Site plan approval shall be conditioned upon the developer of The Villages on the Ponds recording the final plat and all pertinent documents for the PUD with Carver County. Financial guarantees must be submitted to the City to guarantee all public utility improvements and landscaping. Also, the applicant for the Americinn shall enter into a Site Plan Agreement with the City and provide financial security pertaining to specific improvements on Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the Ponds. n L 7. Direct access from Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 101) shall be prohibited unless approved otherwise by MnDOT and Carver County. I ' Americinn Motel and Suites ' November 6, 1996 Page 22 8. The parking lot configuration shall be revised to accommodate emergency fire apparatus. The applicant shall work with the City's fire marshal in revising the parking lot configuration accordingly. ' 9. Three additional fire hydrants shall be placed on the site in accordance with the City fire marshal's recommendation. Plans shall be revised accordingly. 10. Site utility improvements will require a separate building permits from the City's Building Department, i.e. sewer, storm, and watermains. ' 11. Storm drainage plan shall be revised to include an additional catch basin across from catch basin manhole no. 62 and provide a 15 -inch storm sewer lead east out of catch ' basin no. 64. 12. No building permits will be issued until the final plat of Villages on the Ponds has been recorded and the site has been graded in accordance with the approved grading plan. 13. Construction access to and from the site shall be limited to approved access points direeti from Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 10 1) or and Trunk Highway 5, as approved for the Villages on the Ponds shall be pr - a hi it 14. Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the Ponds, is subject to full park and trail fees per city ordinance. One third of these fees will be paid by the developer of the Villages plat. The remaining two thirds shall be paid at the time the building permit is granted. ' 15. Fire Marshal Conditions: a) A 10 foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e. street lamps, trees, shrubs, bushes, NSP, US West, Cable TV, transformer boxes. This is to ensure that fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to ' City Ordinance 9 -1. �1 b) Yellow painted curbing and no parking fire lane signs will be required. Contact Fire Marshal for exact location of signage and curbing to be painted. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.206 and Section 20.207(a) and Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy 06 -1991. c) A post indicator valve will be required on the fire service line coming into the building. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location. Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 23 d) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 0l - 1990 regarding fire alarm systems. (Copy enclosed) e) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 04- 1991. Notes to be included on site plans. (Copy enclosed). f) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 07- 1991 Pre fire plan policy (copy enclosed). g) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 29- 1992 premise identification (copy enclosed). h) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 36- 1994 water line sizing (copy enclosed). i) Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 40- 1995 fire sprinkler systems (copy enclosed). j) Comply with Chanhassen Inspection Division Policy No. 34 -1993 water service installation. k) Th rl �} orial Are hydrants will be Fequired, one exi fire l .,t is t _r��n xc7- z — cca � r-eloeated. Ge*taet Chanhassen Fire Marshal for- new leeations. Staff is to verify that this condition is eor-r-eet. 1) Submit turning radiuses on Fire Department access routes to City Engineer and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for review and approval. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.204. m) Prior to construction fire apparatus access roads or access shall be provided for every facility, building or portion of a building hereafter constructed or moved into or within the jurisdiction when any portion of the facility or any portion of an exterior wall of the first story of the building is located more than 150 feet from fire apparatus access as measured by an approved route or on the exterior of the building or facility. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.203. n) Fire apparatus access roads shall be designed and maintained to support the imposed loads of fire apparatus and shall be provided with a surface so as to provide all weather driving capabilities. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.204.(b). u 7 7 1� 1 C i Americinn Motel and Suites November 6, 1996 Page 24 o) When fire protection, including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire protection, is required to be installed, such protection shall be installed and made serviceable prior to and during time of construction. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.502. p) The Fire Department sprinkler connection shall be located adjacent to the main vestibule to the building. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location. 16. Concurrent with the building permit, a detailed lighting plan meeting city and PUD standards shall be submitted. IT All roof top equipment must be screened in accordance with the PUD ordinance. 18. The siding for the entire motel shall be cedar siding with the smaller width, 6 to 8 inches. 19. The sidewalk located south of the proposed building shall be extended to the west and connected to the sidewalk on Market Boulevard." ATTACHMENTS r FI 1. Development Review Application 2 Memo from Todd Hoffman, dated October 14, 1996. 3. Memo from David Hempel, dated October 30, 1996. 4. Memo from Mark Littfin, dated October 22, 1996. 5. Pictures of the Americinn Motel and Suits located in Shakopee 6. Planning Commission minutes dated November 6, and December 4, 1996. 7. Plans dated November 26, 1996. L CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 (612) 937 -1900 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION I APPLICANT: Je'(6er_� OWNER: AlaP-Acoi� Lyrn,dany , ADDRESS: a2 O a MIkiM 91 ud, ADDRESS: 1 9d- 02 I)Iinn Bl AN 55391 TELEPHONE (Day time) (6 L/ 76 - Z (> 0 0 e �I , A A✓ 5553 TELEPHONE: ( 612J 'L 1 , 7 6 1 - ,2 6 0 0 Comprehensive Plan Amendment Temporary Sales Permit Conditional Use Permit Vacation of ROW /Easements Interim Use Permit Variance Non - conforming Use Permit Wetland Alteration Permit Planned Unit Development* _ Zoning Appeal Rezoning Zoning Ordinance Amendment Sign Permits Sign Plan Review Notification Sign Site Plan Review* X Escrow for Filing Fees /Attorney Cost ** ($50 CUP /SPR/VAC /VAR/WAP /Metes and Bounds, $400 Minor SUB) Subdivision* TOTAL FEE $ A list of all property owners within 500 feet of the boundaries of the property must be included with the application. Building material samples must be submitted with site plan reviews. *Twenty -six full size folded copies of the plans must be submitted, including an 8 X 11" reduced copy of transparency for each plan sheet. ** Escrow will be required for other applications through the development contract NOTE - When multiple applications are processed, the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application. 1 ' PROJECT NAME 14 m L' r ! G1 h n 1U7 t° l and Se ti Ie S LOCATION V 1 a5i e O k HWY s+ lD( S. ' LEGAL DESCRIPTION To b e de- 4 e r wt fi n e d ' TOTAL ACREAGE n o X i Mej e V oZ C< C r C -.S WETLANDS PRESENT YES X NO I PRESENT ZONING P V REQUESTED ZONING No r- e_ PRESENT LAND USE DESIGNATION ' REQUESTED LAND USE DESIGNATION REASON FOR THIS REQUEST _ D—Cl—"r/a1 �o r 4he— de v e /o io ' Ameri c--Tn h /YlaAe-1 ak.r,1 -rues This application must be completed in full and be typewritten or clearly printed and must be accompanied by all information ' and plans required by applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before filing this application, you should confer with the Planning Department to determine the specific ordinance and procedural requirements applicable to your application. A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within ten business days of application submittal. A written ' notice of application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within ten business days of application. This is to certify that I am making application for the described action by the City and that I am responsible for complying with all City requirements with regard to this request. This application should be processed in my name and I am the party whom ' the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application. I have attached a copy of proof of ownership (either copy of Owner's Duplicate Certificate of Title, Abstract of Title or purchase agreement), or I am the authorized person to make this application and the fee owner has also signed this application. ' I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I further understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any authorization to proceed with the study. The documents and information I have submitted are true and correct to the best of my knowledge. t The city hereby notifies the applicant that development review cannot be completed within 60 days due to public requirements and agency review. Therefore, the city is notifying the applicant that the city requires an automatic extension for development review. Development review shall be completed within 120 days unless additional extensi approved by th plicant. Siaa4tu a of Aonlicant Date Signature of Fee Owner I Application Received on The applicant should contact staff for a copy of the staff report which will be available on Friday prior to the meeting. If not contacted, a copy of the report will be mailed to the applicant's address. Fee Paid Date Receipt No. hearing 60 day review CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Sharmin Al -Jaff, Planner II FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation / DATE: October 14, 1996 SUBJ: Americinn Motel and Suites In response to your referral on the development plan for Americinn Motel and Suites, I offer the following information: "Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the Ponds," is subject to full park and trail fees per city ordinance. One -third of these fees will be paid by the developer of the "Villages" plat. The remaining two- thirds shall be paid at the time the building permit is granted. The sidewalk network depicted on the plan will service pedestrian traffic at this site. Please ensure that these sidewalks are installed. Guests of the Americinn who care to take a walk/jog during their stay will be delighted to find a comprehensive trail system near the motel. Lake Susan Community Park is also conveniently located within one -half mile. Thank you for the opportunity to comment on this proposed development plan. G:Apark \th\Americinn.e t I MEMORANDUM CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 ' TO: Sharmin Al -Jaff, Planner H FROM: David Hempel, Assistant City Engineer DATE: October 30, 1996 I SUBJ: Review of Site Plan for AmericInn Motel & Suites (Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the Ponds) Land Use Review File No. 96 -31 Upon review of the construction plans prepared by HKS Associates, Inc. dated October 4, 1996, I offer the follow comments and recommendations: ACCESS /PARKING LOT CIRCULATION I Access to the site will be from proposed Main Street which is anticipated to be constructed in 1997 by the developer of Villages on the Ponds. The plans also propose a direct access out to ' Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 101). This access point has been discussed several times in the past with the preliminary and final plat of Villages on the Ponds. Staff has believed from the beginning that there should not be a direct access point given the close proximity to Trunk Highway 5. The interior parking lot and drive aisles within the Villages project have been redesigned, however, the applicant is still pursuing the access. Staff has reviewed traffic studies prepared by BRW and SRF. Both studies had concerns about a full access point in this location ' and recommended that a right -in right -out only be considered. Staff has received comments back from MnDOT and Carver Public Works (see attached) regarding this access point. Due to safety concerns and roadway geometrics, both agencies recommended against direct access on to Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 101) from the parking lot. They suggest altering the parking lot design as staff has recommended. ' The interior parking lot layout is very similar to the conceptual plan for Villages on the Ponds. Staff has concerns from a public safety standpoint with the tight turning radiuses. The parking lot configuration and drive aisle widths should be reconfigured to accommodate emergency vehicles. ' Staff has just recently worked with the City's fire marshal on determining the necessary radiuses in order facilitate the City's aerial fire truck. This will require widening drive aisles and ' significantly increasing radiuses on the intersections to accommodate turning movements. The applicant's engineering/architect should work with City staff in revising the parking lot layout/configuration to accommodate the City's emergency vehicles. Shannin Al -Jaff ' October 30, 1996 Page 2 UTILITIES Utilities to the site will be provided by the developer of Villages on the Ponds. This work is anticipated to commence yet this fall, however, realistically given weather conditions and short ' time line, next spring. The utility layout is fairly straight forward. The City's fire marshal has requested three additional fire hydrants. The plans shall be revised accordingly. DRAINAGE & GRADING Most of the site will be mass graded in conjunction with the Villages on the Ponds development. Only finish grading will be completed by the applicant. Wetland impacts /mitigation and erosion control measures will also be provided by the developer. Storm drainage will be conveyed via a storm sewer system into a pretreatment pond on site prior to discharging into the wetlands. An , additional catch basin should be added across form catch basin/manhole no. 62 and a 15 -inch storm sewer lead provided east of catch basin no. 64 for the future parking lot drainage. MISCELLANEOUS The developer of Villages on the Ponds has signed the development/PUD contract and provided the City with security to guarantee installation of public improvements for the site, however, the final plat has not yet been recorded. Staff anticipates the plan will be recorded within the next three to four weeks. Access during construction should be coordinated with the developer (Villages on the Ponds). ' Construction access directly from Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 10 1) or Trunk Highway 5 shall be prohibited. RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL 1. Direct access from Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 10 1) shall be prohibited. ' 2. The parking lot configuration shall be revised to accommodate emergency fire apparatus. The applicant shall work with the City's fire marshal in revising the parking lot ' configuration accordingly. 3. Three additional fire hydrants shall be placed on the site in accordance with the City fire ' marshal's recommendation. Plans shall be revised accordingly. 4. Site utility improvements will require a separate building permits from the City's Building ' Department, i.e. sewer, storm, and watermains. I r t i 1 1 Sharmin Al -Jaff October 30, 1996 Page 3 5. Storm drainage plan shall be revised to include an additional catch basin across from catch basin manhole no. 62 and provide a 15 -inch storm sewer lead east out of catch basin no. 64. 6. No building permits will be issued until the final plat of Villages on the Ponds has been recorded and the site has been graded in accordance with the approved grading plan. 7. Construction access directly from Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 10 1) or Trunk Highway 5 shall be prohibited. Jms Attachments: 1. Letter dated September 17, 1996 from MnDOT. 2. Letter dated September 23, 1996 from Carver County Public Works Dept. c: Charles Folch, Director of Public Works Vcfsl \volZ'eng\pm jects \vilIages,mnericinn.doc The County has received a copy of the written response from Mn /DOT dated September 17,1996 regarding the Villages on the Ponds comprehensive plan amendment. As we had discussed by phone on September 19, Carver County concurs with Mn /DOT's recommendation that there should be no direct access to TH 101 from the parking lot south of TH 5. The developer should consider some other way to provide parking lot circulation within the boundaries of the property and utilize the access at Main Street. It has been the County's experience that right in /right out accesses have caused confusion to the average motorists and as a result do not operate as intended. This proposed right in /right out directly east of the Lake Drive access to TH 101 would seem to only increase the chance of confusion and increase the safety risk. The County would like the opportunity to review alternative proposals when they are available Thank you for the opportunity to review this proposal. Sincerely, William J. Weckman, P.E. Assistant County Engineer cc: Roger Gustafson � � ������ Sherry Narusiewicz P 2 5 1990 ENGINFERIN DEPT. Aft Action/Equal Opportunity Employer Printed on 10% Post - Consumer Recycled Paper a I PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT Carver County Government Center Administration on Administration Building CARVER 600 East Fourth Street Engineering COUNTY Chaska, Minnesota 55318 -2192 Highway Maintenance Surveying &Mapping Phone (612) 361 -1010 Fax(612)361-1025 September 23, 1996 Dave Hemple City of Chanhassen ' 600 Coulter Dr. P.O. Box 147 Chanhassen, MN 55317 RE: Villages on the Ponds Mn /DOT Review Dear Dave: The County has received a copy of the written response from Mn /DOT dated September 17,1996 regarding the Villages on the Ponds comprehensive plan amendment. As we had discussed by phone on September 19, Carver County concurs with Mn /DOT's recommendation that there should be no direct access to TH 101 from the parking lot south of TH 5. The developer should consider some other way to provide parking lot circulation within the boundaries of the property and utilize the access at Main Street. It has been the County's experience that right in /right out accesses have caused confusion to the average motorists and as a result do not operate as intended. This proposed right in /right out directly east of the Lake Drive access to TH 101 would seem to only increase the chance of confusion and increase the safety risk. The County would like the opportunity to review alternative proposals when they are available Thank you for the opportunity to review this proposal. Sincerely, William J. Weckman, P.E. Assistant County Engineer cc: Roger Gustafson � � ������ Sherry Narusiewicz P 2 5 1990 ENGINFERIN DEPT. Aft Action/Equal Opportunity Employer Printed on 10% Post - Consumer Recycled Paper a I o 1 Minnesota Departm of Transportation Metropolitan Division Waters Edge 1500 West County Road 62 Roseville, MN 55113 September 17, 1996 Robert Generous City of Chanhassen 690 Coulter Dr. P.O. Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Dear Robert Generous: SUBJECT: Villages on the Ponds Comprehensive Plan Amendments cpA -9&- 044 SE Quad. TH 101 & TH 5 Chanhassen, Carver County CS 1009 The Minnesota Department of Transportation (Mn/DOT) has reviewed the Villages on the Ponds comprehensive plan amendment in conjunction with the Metropolitan Council's review. We find the proposed amendment acceptable with consideration of the following comments. After reviewing the traffic forecasting section we agree that the trip generation seems reasonable and the distribution seems appropriate for the development. Mn/DOT is in the process of transferring TH 101 to Carver County. The expected completion date of this action is November 1, 1996. Pending finalization, any new access to TH 101 will be approved by Mn/DOT with concurrence by Carver County. As we stated in the environmental review response, it is recommended that there should be no direct access to TH 101 from the parking lot south of TH 5. The developer should consider some other way to provide parking lot circulation within the boundaries of the property and utilize the access at Main Street. The issue of vacating Great Plains Boulevard has been addressed. Mn/DOT has transferred Commissioners Orders from this alignment to the alignment actually signed TH 101 (Market Blvd.). The city is now able to proceed with their vacation process to allow the developer to begin building on the property. An equal opportunity employer EC "INFO SEP 2 3 1996 CITY Ur OMAN ASSEN If you have any questions regarding this review, please contact me at 582 -1400. Sincerely, / Sherry Naru iewic Principal Transportation Planner c: Terry Kayser, Metropolitan Council - Local Assistance Ann Braden, Metropolitan Council - Transportation Roger Gustafson, Carver County I t t CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 TO: Sharmin Al -Jaff, Planner I1 FROM: Mark Littfin, Fire Marshal DATE: October 22, 1996 SUBJECT: Request for site plan approval for a 152,471 square foot Americinn Motel and Suites located on Lot 1, Block 1, Village on the Ponds, Truman Howell Architects and Associates. Planning Case; 96 -13 Site Plan Review I have reviewed the site plan for the above project. In order to comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division, I have the following fire code or city ordinance /policy requirements. The site plan is based on the available information submitted at this time. If additional plans or changes are submitted the appropriate code or policy items will be addressed. 1. A 10 foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e. street lamps, trees, shrubs, bushes, NSP, US West, Cable TV, transformer boxes. This is to ensure that fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to City Ordinance 9 -1. 2. Yellow painted curbing and no parking fire lane signs will be required. Contact Fire Marshal for exact location of signage and curbing to be painted. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.206 and Section 20.207(a) and Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy 06 -1991. 3. A post indicator valve will be required on the fire service line coming into the building. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location. 4. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department /Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 01 -1990 regarding fire alarm systems. (Copy enclosed) 5. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 04 -1991. Notes to be included on site plans. (Copy enclosed). 6. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 07 -1991 Pre fire plan policy (copy enclosed). I MEMORANDUM Sharmin Al -Jaff October 22, 1996 Page 2 7. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 29 -1992 premise identification (copy enclosed). 8. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department /Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 36 -1994 water line sizing (copy enclosed). 9. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department /Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 40 -1995 fire sprinkler systems (copy enclosed). 10. Comply with Chanhassen Inspection Division Policy No. 34 -1993 water service installation. 11. Three additional fire hydrants will be required, one existing fire hydrant is to be relocated. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for new locations. 12. Submit turning radiuses on Fire Department access routes to City Engineer and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for review and approval. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.204.© 13. Prior to construction fire apparatus access roads or access shall be provided for every facility, building or portion of a building hereafter constructed or moved into or within the jurisdiction when any portion of the facility or any portion of an exterior wall of the first story of the building is located more than 150 feet from fire apparatus access as measured by an approved route or on the exterior of the building or facility. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.203. 14. Fire apparatus access roads shall be designed and maintained to support the imposed loads of fire apparatus and shall be provided with a surface so as to provide all weather driving capabilities. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.204.(b). 15. When fire protection, including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire protection, is required to be installed, such protection shall be installed and made serviceable prior to and during time of construction. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.502. 16. The Fire Department sprinkler connection shall be located adjacent to the main vestibule to the building. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location. g: \safety \ml \americi nn CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY FIRE ALARM SYSTEMS 1 1. Fire alarm systems shall meet the re q uirements of NFPA 72 1993 Edition. 2. Shop drawings shall be submitted to the Fire Department for approval. Shop drawings shall included the following. Approval and acceptance must comply with NFPA 72 1993 Edition 1 -7.1. a. Connection diagrams. b. Specification data sheets. C. Schedules, for each device, including: °location, function, zoning. d. Complete diagrams indicating. devices, components, interconnecting wiring, indicate labeling and descriptions on equipment. e. Floor plans indicating device and component locations, conduit, raceway and cable routes. f. Power connections, including source and branch circuit data. g. Plan layout and details of: fire alarm controlpanel, fire alarm subpanels /transponders, annunciator. 3. Wiring may be eithera Class A or Class B Wiring System. (Exception: When a fire alarm system. is used to actuate an extinguishing systerrrthat protects a special hazard with higlrvalue:� Class&A circuitry wiikbe- required-J:,, . _. 4. All com�ts of the system must be T.T.L. Iisted' for their application; ccii*ible and installed per NFPA: 72E, National Electric Code and manufacturer's regi ments. 5. Alarm verification is required for all systems: using smoke detectors. 6. When Central Station notification is required or otherwise provided, it must be through a U.L. listed communicator, or NFPA Listed Control Panel. All Central Stations must be U.L. listed. Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy 901 -1990 Date: 04/19/90 Revised: 05/09/96 Page 1 of 2 7. The alarm systems shall be audible above the ambient noise level in all areas of the building. Alarm horns in each unit and all public areas, i.e. party room, pool, laundry rooms. Horns shall be directly connected to the building alarm systems and supervised. S: The system shall be zoned per Chanhassen Fire Department requirements. 9. A U.L. 71 Certificate is required on the system. The U.L. 71 Certificate shall be current and required for the life of the alarm system and the life of the building. 10. A fully- function annunciator must be provided if the control panel is remotely located. 11. Health care, day care, and assembly occupancy notification must be by chimes, unless otherwise approved by the Fire Marshal. 12. All systems using standard horns or speakers must be set for temporal time. 13. The Chanhassen Fire Marshal must be contacted for final inspection of the completed job. The inspection will include: a. Test for proper operation of each device. b. Random testing for system trouble. C. Random testing for ground fault trouble. d. Correct operation on battery or standby power. Approved - Public Safety Director Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy 901 -1990 Date: 04/19/90 Revised: 05/09/96 Page 2 of 2 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT NOTES TO BE INCLUDED ON ALL SITE PLANS r, 1. Fire Marshal must witness the flushing of underground sprinkler service line, per NFPA 13- 8 -2.1. 2. A final inspection by the Fire Marshal before a Certificate of Occupancy is issued. 3. Fire Department access roads shall be provided on site during all phases of construction. The construction of these temporary roads will conform with the Chanhassen Fire Department requirements for temporary access roads at construction sites. Details are available. 4. Onsite fire hydrants shall be provided and in operating condition during all phases of construction. 5. The use of liquefied petroleum gas shall be in conformance with NFPA Standard 58 and the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code. A list of these requirements is available. (See policy #33 -1993) 6. All fire detection and fire suppressionsystems shall be monitored by an approved UL central station with a UL 71 Certificate issued on these systems before final occupancy is issued. 7. An 11" x 14" As, Built shall be provided to the Fire Department. I The As Built shall be reproducible and acceptable to the Fire Marshal. (See policy #07- 1991). 8. An approved lock box shall be provided on the building for fire department use. The lock box should be located by the Fire Department connection or as located by the Fire Marshal. Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy #04 -1991 Date: 11/22/91 Revised: 12/23/94 Page 1 of 2 9. High -piled combustible storage shall comply with the requirements of Article #81 of the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code High -piled combustible storage is combustible materials on closely packed piles more than 15' in height or combustible materials on pallets or in racks more than 12' in height. For certain special- hazard commodities such as rubber tires, plastics, some flammable liquids, idle pallets, etc. the critical pile height may be as low as 6 feet. 10. Fire lane si na a shall be provided as required by the Fire Marshal. (See policy #06- 1991). 11. Smoke detectors installed in lieu of 1 hour rated corridors under UBC section 3305G, Exception #5 shall comply with Chanhassen Fire Department requirements for installation and system type. (See policy #05- 1991). 1 12. Maximum allowed size of domestic water service on a combination domestic /fire ' sprinkler supply line policy must be followed. (See policy #36- 1994). Cal Approved - Public Safety Director Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy #04 -1991 Date; 11/22/91 Revised: 12/23/94 Page 2 of 2 1 I L� l 1 1 1. Signs to be a minimum of 12" x 18 ". 2. Red on white is preferred. 3. 3M or equal engineer's grade reflective sheeting on aluminum is preferred. 4. Wording shall be: NO PARKING FIRE LANE 5. Signs shall be posted at each end of the fire lane and at least at 7 75 foot intervals along the .fire 'lane . 6. All signs shall be double sided facing the direction of travel. 7. Post shall be set back a minimum of 12 but not more than 36" from the curb. 8. A fire lane shall be required in (NOT TO GRADE front of fire dept. connections SCALE) extending 5,feet on each side and along all-areas designated by the Fire Chief., ANY DEVIATION n FROM , THE ABOVE PROCEDURES SHALL BE SUBMITTED IN WRITING, WITH A SITE'PLAN,.;EOR APPROVAL BY THE FIRE CHIEF. IT IS THE INTENTION OF THE FIRE' DEPARTMENT TO ENSURE CONTINUITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY BY PROVIDING THESE PROCEDURES FOR MARKING OF FIRE LANES. Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy #06 -1991 Date: 1/15/91 Revised: Approved - Public Safety Director Page 1 of 1 4M % PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY REQUIREMENTS FOR FIRE LANE SIGNAGE CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 10 FAX (612) 937 -5739 CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY REGARDING PRE -PLAN Prior to issuing the C.O., a pre -plan, site plan shall be submitted to the Fire Department for approval. The following items shall be shown on the plan. 1) Size 11" x 17" (maximum) 2) Building footprint and building dimensions 3) Fire lanes and width of fire lanes 4) Water mains and their sizes, indicate looped or dead end 5) Fire hydrant locations 6) P.I.V. - Fire Department connection 7) Gas meter (shut -off), NSP (shut off) 8) Lock box location 9) Fire walls, if applicable 10) Roof vents, if applicable 11) Interior walls 12) Exterior doors 13) Location of fire alarm panel 14) Sprinkler riser location 15) Exterior L.P. storage, if applicable 16) Haz. Mat. storage, if applicable 17) Underground storage tanks locations, if applicable 18) Type of construction walls /roof 19) Standpipes PLEASE NOTE. Plans, -with topographical information, contour lines, easement lines, property lines setbacks, right -of -way lines, headings, and -other related lines or markings,, are not acceptable, and will be rejected. Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy #07 -1991 Date: 01/16/91 Revised: 02/18/94 Approved - Pu lic Safety Director Page 1 of 1 1 J r General CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY PREMISES IDENTIFICATION Numbers or addresses shall be placed on all new and existing buildings in such a position as to be plainly visible and legible from the street or road fronting the property. Said numbers shall contrast with their background. Size and location of numbers shall be approved by one of the following - Public Safety Director, Building Official, Building Inspector, Fire Marshal. Requirements are for new construction and existing buildings where no address numbers are posted. otlxr ReWirements - General r 1. Numbers shall be a contrasting color from the background. 2. Numbers shall not be in script 3. If a structure Is not visible from the sheet, additlonal' umbers are required at the driveway entrance. Size and location must be approved 4. Numbers on mall box at driveway entrance may be a minimum of 4 ". However, requirement #3 must still be met S. Administrative authority may require additional numbers if deemed necessary. Residential Requkements (2 or less dweting urdq 1. Minimum height shall be S 1/4 ". 2 Building permits will not be finaled unless numbers are posted and approved by the Building Department Conurnerr3af Reguirandtts - 1. Minimum height shall :be 12 ". 2. Strip Malls a. Mutt! tenant building will have minimum height requirements of 6 ". b. Address numbers shall be on the main entrance and on all back doors. 3. if address numbers are located on a directory entry sign, additional numbers will be required on the buildings main entrance. Approved - Public SaVty Director Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy 129 -1992 Date: 06/15/92 Revised: Page 1 of.l 4V PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 WATER SERVICE INSTALLATION POLICY FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS 1) The Inspections Division shall be responsible for issuance of permits. No permit shall be issued until approval of plans have been obtained from the following: a) Engineering Department b) Fire Marshal C) Minnesota Department of Health d) Plumbing Inspector 2) Plumbing inspectors will do all installation inspections and witness the hydrostatic and conductivity tests. Inspection and Test Requirements a) All pipe shall be inspected before being covered. Phone 937 -1900, ext. 31, to schedule inspections. A 24 hour notice is required. b) Conductivity test is required. The pipe shall be subjected to a minimum 350 amp test for a period of not less than 5 minutes. C) Hydrostatic test required. All pipe shall be subjected to a hydrostatic pressure of 150 psi for 2 hours. Allowable pressure drop shall not exceed I : PSI. d) Pipe shall not be run under buildings - NFPA 248 -3.1. _ 3) Upon approval of the hvdro test, the plumbing inspector shall submit a copy of the inspection report to the utility superintendent - The inspection report shall note whether the system is ready for main flush and drawing of water sample for the bug test. Inspections Division Water Service Installation Policy #34 -1993 Date: 04/15/93 Revised: 4/17/96 Page 1 of 2 I� J J 7 J CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIZE OF DOMESTIC WATER SERVICE ON A COMBINATION DOMESTIC/FIRE SPRINKLER SUPPLY LINE 1. Domestic water line shall not,be greater than 1/4 pipe size of the combination service water supply line. 2. 1 1/2" domestic off 6" line. 3. 2" domestic off 8" line. V ", 4. 2 1/2 domestic off 107 line Option 1: Domestic sizes may be increased if it can be calculated hydraulically that the demand by all domestic fixtures will not drop the fire sprinkler water below its minimum gallonage required. Option 2: Combination domestic and five line service shall have an electric solenoid valve installed on the domestic side of the service. This valve shall be normally powered open and close on loss of electric power or signal from the system water flow indicator. r G�L� A — Approved - Public Safety Director Chanhassen`Fire Department Water Line Sizing Policy #36 -1994 Date: 06/10/94 Revised: Page 1 of 1 i CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY COOKING EQUIPMENT EXHAUST HOOD REQUIREMENTS CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 9 CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 1. FIRE PROTECTION Gj C. Where Required: 1) On commercial cooking 2) If any cooking device vapors, then the entire 1 Type of Protection: 1) When building is fu1Ly, s system. 2) In non- sprinklered''builc CITY OF nt, when grease -laden vapors are produced. an exhaust hood produces grease -laden st be protected. erect, the hood system must be a sprinklered any UL. listed system is acceptable. When extinguishingagent is released, 1) be shut" down; gas to cooking equrl electricity to grease producing heating must: must be shut down; and ces must be shut down. shutdown. - 2t/-� C� Approved - Public Safety Director Chanhassen Fire Department Fire evention Policy 35 -1994 Date: 0 /07/94 Revised: Page 1 of 1 LI, 1 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS 1. Permits are required for all sprinkler work. 2. A minimum of four sets of plans are required. Send, or drop off plans and specifications and calculations to: Mark Littfin, Fire Marshal City of Chanhassen 690 Coulter Drive Chanhassen, MN 55317 3. Yard post indicators are required and'must have tamper protection. 4. All control values must be provided with tamper, protection. 5. All systems tests must be witnessed by the Chanhassen Fire Marshal. Appointments can be made by calling the Fire Marshal at 937 -1900, ext. 132, between 8:00 AM and 4:00 PM, Monday through Friday. Please try to arrange' tests at least 24 hours in advance. All revisions of 25 heads or more will require a test. b. Main drains-'& inspector test connections must be.;piped to the outside atmosphere. 7. Water may =,be introduced into sprinkler piping from the City maity until the Fire Marshal witnesses a flush test per NFPA 13- 8 -2.1. 8. The City of Chanhassen has adopted Appendix E (see 1305.6905 appendix chapter 38 of the MBC). Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Division Policy #40 -1995 Date: 01/12/95 Revised: 04/26/95 Page 1 of 2 1 9. All systems must be designed to NFPA -13, 1991 edition and Chapter 6 Standards. All attic systems are to be spaced at a maximum 130 square foot coverage. 3/4" plastic piping will = be allowed at any time in attic space. 10. All equipment installed in a fire protection system shall be UL listed or factory mutual approved for fire protection service. 11. Fire protection systems that are hydraulically calculated shall have a 5 psi safety factor at maximum system flow. 12. Acceptable water supplies for fire sprinkler systems are listed in NFPA -13, 1991 ed., Chapter 7. Swimming pools and ponds are not acceptable primary water supplies. 13. Pressure and gravity tanks shall be sized per the requirements contained in NFPA -13 and 22. Duration of the water supply shall match the hazard classification of the occupancy. 14. Include spec sheets for fire sprinkler heads - dry pipe /pre -action valving. 15. The definition of inspection is contained in MN Rule 7512.0100 Subpart 10, and states that inspection means: 1. Conducting a final acceptance test. 2. Trip test of dry pipe, deluge or preaction valves. 3. A test that an authority having jurisdiction requires to be conducted under the supervision of a contractor. Only licensed fire protection contractors are permitted to conduct these tests. 4. All other inspections including the inspectors test, main drain and other valves are permitted under MN Rule 7512.0400 Subpart-2G, as maintenance activities and do not require a license as a fire protection contractor. 16. Per Section 904.3.2. and the 1994 Uniform Building Code, an approved audible sprinkler flow alarm to alert the occupants shall be provided in the interior of the building in a normally occupied location. (Location must be approved by the Chanhassen Fire Marshal). Approved - Public Safety Director Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Division Policy #40 -1995 Date: 01/12/95 Revised: 04/26/95 Page: 2 of 2 1 L� L� ti 1 'Ar '�:�'+s`•a'�rt, .b�P � r.yA v'" y�^ � �A �mtK %{ +tom �; «:,t•ti�'' `M'r�w'i.wd .. }" e, .�` , F,�., .: , . ! "'.' 9' ", w , .. x `'...` � �r"r ■ r r it m m s m m m m= i i= m == m= m m m m m m w m ■s m m m m m m i m m m m RMERICINN MOTEL Meeting - November 6 1 Planning Commission Me g o 99 6 PUBLIC HEARING: SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR A 45,505 SQUARE FOOT AMERICINN MOTEL & SUITES LOCATED ON LOT 1, BLOCK 1, VILLAGES ON THE PONDS, JOHN SEIBERT. Sharmin AI -Jaff presented the staff report on this item. Mancino: Sharmin, are you telling me that we are waiting for BR W's comprehensive landscaping plan that will do the landscaping along Market Boulevard and Highway 5, around this site plan and we don't have it yet? Al -Jaff Kate is more familiar with this project. Aanenson: As part of the underlying development they're to submit a master landscape plan. Mancino: Which has a lot to do with this site. Aanenson: Absolutely. And in looking at two different themes going, Sharmin and the City Forester are spending a lot of time trying to come up with that plan. We felt that it'd probably make more sense to let BRW. They've got a preliminary plan for the pond and the landscaping, which we believe meets the objective. That's what we struggled with before... Should it be more natural looking or should it be highly utilized and we believe that the landscaping plan, it's our objective that it be more natural looking... so they would have to do the escrow to provide security to make sure the landscaping gets done in conjunction with the overall master plan... Mancino: And when do you anticipate the master landscaping plan being done so we can integrate it in with this site plan? Aanenson: They're working on it right now. Mancino: Okay. So is that something that's two weeks away? Aanenson: I think it will go longer than that. Vernelle Clayton: They're waiting to get, they need, BRW's landscaping department needs to have feedback from the engineering department so that, first they're working on the streetscape. The grading and so forth plan for the street. Their goal is to have that done sometime in December and then they'll work on the landscaping part. We hope to be here in January with the landscape plan. Mancino: Okay, thanks. Sharmin Al -Jaff continued with her staff report. 15 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 Mancino: Any questions for staff at this point? I just want to go over a couple things that I found missing, and I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't my oversight. Number one. We are not approving signage tonight. What is on top of the cupula as we do not have any detail drawings of it, renderings of it, proportionally or anything so I'm assuming that tonight that is not being asked of the Planning Commission to approve the signage on the cupula, correct? That that will come back as a separate. Al -Jaff. The only thing they haven't submitted actually ... is the rendering that you see in front of you. Mancino: But there are no specifications. Secondly. Aanenson: ...we would go along the PUD ordinance, that was an issue that would be left hanging. Mancino: This is what we received in July. Aanenson: Right. When we were trying to put together the PUD standards that they wanted a A free standing pylon sign and you said no. They asked... building, you said you may consider it at that time ... but that's something that was left hanging... Mancino: But again we didn't receive in our packet anything that gave us specifications on the logo, size, color, anything. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something in the ' packet. BRW is working on the comprehensive landscape plan. We did not receive that so we do not know perimeter landscaping, etc. Does that also include the parking lot? Are they working on a comprehensive, does that include a parking lot for this building too? Or is what we see here what the plan is? Al -Jaff Individual landscape plans, site plans are approved individually. The comprehensive plan will basically look at the parameters of the development and along this. It will also concentrate on the streetscape. The interior streetscape. elevations showing , Mancino: Okay. And we did not get any e g what this hotel will look like from Highway 5. We have nothing showing any view shed of what this whole plan will look like from Highway 5, correct? Aanenson: I think that's the applicant's model. Mancino: Okay. Peterson: Theoretically just going from east to west, this would be a primary view, wouldn't it? ' Right here. Mancino: From east to west. I don't know, we'll wait and ask them when they show that. Okay. We also, Sharmin, the other thing that was missing was any lighting plan. Anything that the 16 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 motel has for, you know pavers. Are pavers being used on the sidewalk? We didn't get that or any lighting plans. You know how it will carry the village character. Lighting interior on this building. I Al -Jaff No. I L I r Pl- I Mancino: Okay. I just was looking for those things and wanted to make sure that I hadn't missed it. Any other questions? Okay. Is the applicant here and would you like to present please? Vernelle Clayton: Yes, Madam Mayor Elect and members of the Planning Commission. My name's Vemelle Clayton and I'm with Lotus Realty which has been shepherding the project along for a while now. And beginning some time after concept approval when we met and learned... intent to be involved in this project. They've been with us for a little over a year now and their interest in the project gave us not only the courage to continue but the financial wherewithal to fund some of the drawings and renderings that you saw throughout some of the preliminary process. They've been an integral part of our project. We have valued their partnership and they're committed to this project to it being one of their more outstanding motels and they've done a lot of work for us, for the city, to bring this project to you this evening. A couple of the folks involved with Americinn are also are here. Luke Fowler, the president is here this evening in the back and he lives out in Laketown Township. Another member of their senior staff lives just a few blocks or so in that direction. And John Seibert, who will be the presenter for them this evening. I would, before we get into a little all the conditions here are drafted from a perspective that they relate to this project. The first three items on the conditions, we as the developers and the Wards feel relate more to the landscaping plan approval. As well these are thoughts that we don't necessarily agree with 100% and frankly haven't researched totally because we need to review them with BRW. We would like it rather that they be phrased that to shall be because I think it's a conflict with item number 6. I don't think that BRW ... that you must do a, b, c, and d. We want their creativity and their solutions. That's not to say we wouldn't share these with them but we'd like to have language... I'll be back up probably from time to time but right now I'd like to introduce John Seibert. John Seibert: Good evening Madam Chairman, members of the Planning Commission. As Vernelle said, I'm John Seibert. I'm Vice President of Real Estate and Construction with Americinn International. Americinn International is located here, close to this proximity in Deephaven, Minnesota. That's where our primary headquarters is at. I have brought along with me this evening a number of people to assist me in the process of helping you understand what this Americinn concept is about. And obviously Vernelle Clayton will speak on behalf of Lotus Realty. Mika Milo was to be here this evening. Unfortunately he has taken ill. He has faxed us a letter in reference to his view and recommendation as to what he perceives our project as looking like and how it will help fit into the overall concept of Villages on the Ponds, and we'll read that letter just a little bit later this evening. And obviously Mika's position is the architectural review board for the Villages on the Ponds so it's very important for us to work with him and we have been working with him diligently over the last year. Also with us this evening is Truman Howell with Truman Howell Architects and Truman Howell is going to 17 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 18 basically present to you this evening the whole layout of our particular building, and also how it is incorporated into Villages on the Ponds. We also have Allan Kregman who is going to end up going through the process of walking you through the landscaping that we have done on the project and as we take a look at this overall landscaping, as it's been stated already, we've worked with BRW. We've worked with Allan and we've worked with Lotus. We're trying to incorporate all these things together. The directive that we received in reference to how we handle the Highway 5 corridor has been really kind of juggled back and forth and in the process of this juggle, what it's been is that what exactly is it that they want for the Highway 5 corridor and how it will incorporate into the rest of the project. And given that direction, we basically have stepped back a little bit and I guess I would like for the Planning Commission to look primarily at how we are addressing the landscaping within the project rather than addressing specifically how it is dealing with it along the Highway 5 corridor. And again I assure you we've been working aggressively with the three different groups in order to attempt to try and come up with a workable solution that will allow the architect of review on the project who has some concerns about how much we block and how BRW looks at what the Highway 5 corridor requirements are so, and Allan will end up giving you some assistance and guidance and walking through how we address the landscaping on it. We also have Tom Steinke with us this evening and Tom is with Edison Signs and he's a designer of signs as well as a manufacturer of signs. And I might address at this time in reference to the signage issue. It was our understanding that the signage would be required to go through on a special permitting on it's own and I apologize that we didn't submit a little more information to you as was requested a little bit earlier but that was what our understanding was and I think with Tom's information this evening, hopefully we can kind of incorporate that within the rest of the project. We also obviously brought with us the site model. The site model is a study model and I think it's very important for everyone to look at that as a study model and what the intent of the study model is to give people a perspective of the lines on the building and how it would actually really look in a 3D perspective, you might say. And so it's not intended to give you color. It's not intended to give you the fanciness that you might see on a normal model. Completed model but the study, this particular study model that we have here, I think will give you the feel for how the roof line breaks up and what actually occurs on it. We also brought with us this evening, I think it's one of these. A rendering of the particular project and the rendering obviously is going to end up giving you the color decor and that sort of thing that we anticipate utilizing on it. We've brought a number of boards that are going to give you the elevations on the building as well as the footprints on the building and how that particular ... as well. I thought I might take just a second, if you wouldn't mind, before we started into the presentations, to give a little better insight as to what Americinn is all about. The organization started back in 1984 by a gentleman out of St. Cloud, Minnesota. Our particular organization did not get involved in the Americinn concept until 1990 when we built one of the Americinn motels on a property that we own. And as Victor Diaz said, we liked the project so much, we liked the product so much that we said gee, we've got to own this company and so in 1992 we bought controlling interest in the company and at that time there were only approximately 27 motels in existence in the Americinn system. And in 1992 when we bought the controlling interest in the company, our desires were to take them a little bit more public and really drive the development of the Americinn system. And in 1994 we bought the company in it's entirety so we bought out control of the entire controlling. Today we have 75 motels open so we obviously are on the track of the progress that we hope to attain. We have 26 of them that are 18 I 1 1 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 under construction at the present time and we have 20 of them in the development sequence where franchises have been signed and are in the process of getting ready to start construction. So again, I think it's important for you to understand that because I noticed in the attachments that you have there is a picture of the Shakopee Americinn, and I'd like to back you up just a little bit in history with this because the Shakopee Americinn was built originally as Americinn. It was built back in the mid 1980's. I believe it was 1985. I might be off a year or two on that. The way it was built, it was built with the perception of what Americinn was at that particular time and the Shakopee Americinn does not have the very things that you will find in the Americinn today. For instance the primary thing is the fact that it lacks the pool. An indoor pool has become a very important part of the Americinn system. We at Americinn have gone through what we call an evolutionary process. Not a revolutionary process. In that we want to end up along with the Americinns that were in the system prior to our organization taking over, to make sure that there is some consistency along the way for yet improving the product for the general public. And within that there are a number of unique features that we have incorporated into this specific project for Chanhassen. I think Vemelle made reference to the fact that it is going to be a flagship property in that we've put some unique features here that I'm going to allow our architect to specifically address with you and point out how they work in some of our particular product. The Americinn system was initially designed to develop around the business traveler and how we basically developed that was we did it on the basis of trying to make it one where it was a quiet motel. Therefore the construction of our particular product is very important as well. They're all concrete buildings. Concrete blocks between the wall that have sheetrock attached to the walls so it doesn't, the average person when they walk into the room wouldn't know that but they are definitely quieter with respect that you don't hear your neighbor. We also have them slab on grade and there's a concrete plane between the floors. So if the person in the morning on the second floor decides to get up and start doing jump roping and that sort of thing, you're not going to hear them on the first floor. And again, the whole quietness of the motel is how it's really designed initially. Then they incorporated an indoor pool. The indoor pool brought the motel around the corner a little bit more and at that point in time it allowed it to become a little more of a family motel as well as a business traveler's motel. Subsequently to that, now we've incorporated a number of suites within our properties and the suites have allowed it to become a little bit more of a vacation type of a motel so where a person can come in and do a 2 -3 night stay with having wet bars and microwaves and refrigerators and so forth located within the suites along with the whirlpools. So I'm trying to bring you along the phases that Americinn has gone through so that you can kind of get a better understanding as to how Shakopee Americinn will differ significantly with Chanhassen Americinn. And the architect will explain to you how the Chanhassen Americinn will be different from the normal Americinn and really kind of our flagship of the system. One of the other things that Americinn has is interior design, is we have done basically what we call a continental breakfast area that's set to one side of the entrance and then we have a fireside conversation area which is set to the other side. And as people walk into the motel lobby, it's a spacious, open motel lobby. But it really gives you an inviting feel of being at home away from home and that is really kind of one of the things we've really developed our system on as well is the quietness. Is this home away from home feel. The fact is we have a number of comments that come back from our particular guests that say, you know you gave me the feel like it was a bed and breakfast almost. A big bed and breakfast but kind of that same homey, comfortable feel. And we think within that it says volumes towards this neo 19 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 traditional concept that's trying to be developed within the Villages of the Ponds because this is really kind of the big bed and breakfast, if you want to call it from that particular respect. So we're very comfortable in the fact that we're not a sterile box and that we have a lot to offer the community of Chanhassen and we're obviously very excited to present to you tonight that information. And at this time what I'd like to do is have Vemelle read Mike Milo's statement so that you can get a feel for what Mika's envisioning on this particular project. Vernelle. Vernelle Clayton: This was done this afternoon. Mika... couldn't be here but he wasn't feeling well. It's nothing serious but more or less ... so it's addressed today's date. Review comments by Mika and plans reviewed refer to the plans that were submitted. Number one the use. The motel use is in conformance with the PUD list of permitted uses and is a welcome function within the Village. Even though the nature of a motel use does not allow for any commercially very active and general public oriented ground floor area, it's residential character and the traffic generated by visitors and tourists who stay at the motel will be very beneficial to the Village. It is expected that motel guests will walk on foot to adjacent streets to shop, eat or find some entertainment or recreation activities. Also, motel parking will fit very well into the shared parking concept for the Villages, due to a staggered activity timetable for the motel vs. Adjacent commercial functions. Furthermore, the motel should contribute to the festive, cheerful character and image of this development. Number two, site design. The building location next to the intersection of two highways is very logical and functional. The ground floor of the motel is not very commercially oriented, so there is no strong reason to be on the streets within the Village core. Hence, the PUD master plan placed the motel at the outskirts of the Village in very close proximity to the core, to allow for full integration of all functions within an easy walking distance. The long L- shaped building along Highway 101 and next to the intersection, along with generous lush landscaped front yards, blocks the view to parking behind it and forms a pleasant manicured streetscape facing towards these busy streets. Parking is oriented to Highway 5 with it's narrower side, thus further reducing it's exposure towards this highway. The low berms, less than 2 feet 6 inches and the dense but low landscape, placed between the parking and Highway 5, is sufficient to provide a desired visual screen of the parking area. It is important that these berms and landscape, including the trees within the parking lot itself, do not block the view towards the Village Promenade, core area and Main Street's Pier Point. The visual angles shall take into account the eye level of drivers along Highway 5, looking towards the Village along the entire northern frontage road between Highway 101 and Great Plains Boulevard. The motel design team needs to examine the current landscape design in view of this criterion and possibly specify another type of tree for parking area and northern edge that will allow for reasonable visual corridors towards the Village, (as shown now, the trees appear too big). I talked with ... about the size of the trees. Mika was not aware of the... With that in mind, if we don't get a particular... we will take a look at those along with... The circulation features shown on the plans, both for vehicular and pedestrian movement within this site area and towards other PUD areas, are in conformance with the approved PUD design and are well articulated. However, curb radius' for fire truck operators are not adequate and shall be changed along the fire truck route, to be established. Building Design. In terms of overall building size, mass, bulk and height, the proposed motel building conforms to PUD design standards. The building terracing towards the intersection is a welcome feature as well as the sloped roofs that cover the entire building. The building facade is sufficiently articulated and reflects a level of detailing 20 J r] 7 11 I� Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 that matches the desired traditional character of the Villages. It is apparent that the Americinn design team made a considerable effort to propose a design that projects an upscale image and to integrate this motel into the Village. The building materials (wood, brick, roof shingles) and associated textures and colors proposed also fall within the Village's design standards. However, we would like to suggest the following. (a) Strengthen and project more of a festive, cheerful and attractive character to the building, especially towards the intersection area, main entrance, pool area and patio in front of it. I called him to ask him what ... and he said, without any expense they can add a little more life, flags, umbrellas. Things out on the patios, festive lighting, flowers. Item (b). During our previous review ... he had reviewed it earlier, of the motel building design, we pointed out that the west elevation towards Highway 101 may incorporate another balcony, might incorporate another balcony, element at the point of transition between the 2 and 3 story segments. This would further help to break down the length of the facade and provide more visual interest. However, the final design indicates that Americinn has chosen to use the pillars on each side of this area and a dense landscape to handle this situation. I need to explain that this fax, this is a second version of the fax. The first version of the fax read this way. If this is not financially or functionally feasible, then the... I know I don't sound like Mika but in my mind I can ... hear him saying this. At the very northwest corner large trees shall be eliminated as shown on the landscape plan in order to allow a view towards the attractive terraced portion of the motel with the cupola and it's integrated signage. In closing, except for the above mentioned suggestions and remarks, the proposed design is acceptable and recommended for further review and approval by other governing agencies. Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Mancino: Thank you. I'd just like to make a comment Vemelle. It would be helpful as we get in more site reviews on Villages on the Ponds, and the process is wonderful. Having Mika review it, but it would be additive for us if we could have those statements in our packet and review them, as we're looking at them so that we can refine this process and get it prior to, or at the same time we get our packet. If we can work on that. Aanenson: Yeah. We just reviewed their architectural review committee and made comments on that. These two projects, the church and the motel were on the fast track... Vemelle Clayton: ...turn around in the next week or so and we have to have... Mancino: Great, thank you. Because that was very... John Siebert: Madam Chairman, members of the Planning Commission. I do apologize that Mika's not here because any time that you do have written material and it's not presented by the individual, it can be interpreted in a variety of different fashions and Mika, I can say this because I'm of German heritage as well. It's matter of fact and within that, I think some of his statements that he makes in there, and again I appreciate that all of you have had an opportunity to listen to Mika and to identify with how he addresses the issues that are there. And Mika and I have obviously worked very closely together in this particular project as well and so I would have much rather preferred to have him here so he could present it to you but I guess that is the situation there so I apologize for that. At this time I'd like to again, I guess re- introduce Mr. 21 Planning Commission Meeting m November 6, 1996 Howell of Truman Howell Architects and allow him to take you through the process of what this building is going to look like on the site and to give you an overall feel of what we've got to offer to the City of Chanhassen. Truman Howell: Truman Howell, Truman Howell Architects... The first thing I'd like to take you through is what a basic Americinn motel is made of What elements that ... in the Chanhassen project. First of all, the main entry into the building comes through a vestibule, through a large lobby, with a large fireplace and a stairway ... up to a second level balcony. Under that balcony on the first floor is the main registration area ... with laundry functions and storage areas to the right. On this particular plan there's the pool area itself—and open area for chairs, tables, umbrellas, that kind of things on the interior of the building. Just to, adjacent to the laundry on this particular ... we will have an elevator and a series of stairs to the third floor. The mix of the roads from that point are fairly standard in the sense that they're all larger than one would typically find in most motels with 14 feet wide as opposed to some other standards that are somewhat less than that. We have a variety of room types, including spas, two room suites and very obviously handicapped rooms as well are required by State Law. Mancino: Is there a masseuse? Truman Howell: I beg your pardon. Mancino: Is there a masseuse? Truman Howell: Not yet. But those are pretty standard elements in most all the Americinns. The one, with exception of the one before you. I should put this model up here so you can turn it around if you'd like. This would be Highway 5. This would be TH 101 and Market Boulevard extension here. And this is the ... should say the okayed access, or the discussed access area here. ...and I think Mika mentioned in his comments about the various levels of the buildings as it goes up to the three story portion. One of the main features that. Mancino: Do you mind if I take a look at this. Truman Howell: Not at all. Mancino: This is Highway 5. This is the west side that you'll see from Market, correct? And this is the south side which you'll see from maybe the access... parking lot. Truman Howell: If there's any questions about the model, I can answer them for you. One of the first things that we're doing is we're enlarging all of the restrooms. You go into the small bathrooms in some of the motels, Chanhassen is given the new, enlarged, improved bathroom. Each one of the new guest rooms. The swimming pool area is expanded so it is larger than any of the pool rooms, pool areas that we've had in the past. Also we'll be enlarging the windows into the pool area, along the front of the building and on the end of the building so there will be more light coming into there. We have a covered patio area. Now we've talked with you about the plaza. I think it was mentioned earlier. Outside of the building. Just outside of the I I L 22 Ll 11 u Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 swimming pool area. We will ... right here that it will be shown in more detail on the landscape plan. We've indicated it in the perspective off of this area here. That is also, and I don't know if reads as well from that distance as it does on the model perhaps. There will be an enclosed area underneath that so that in fact it is a semi covered patio outside area that will of course have chairs, tables and lighting. You mentioned lighting. The building will be typically lit with soffit lighting coming down and there will be some ground lighting going up in- between the windows. Not into the windows. The lighting in the parking lot itself will be dealt with on the site plan. It will be in conjunction with the Villages on the Ponds style of lights. There will be a drive through, a drive under ... as you can see on the drawing and the model. The cupola on the roof is an element that you will be seeing more of those integrated into our buildings. One of the issues that we dealt with on the design is the third story portion of the building that you see on the model end and this drawing. Typically it comes off and stops abruptly. The cupola is a finishing element to that, as well as providing the signage location which the sign, as opposed to the one that you saw in June, is integrated into the building and actually becomes a part of this cupola. It is the shape is, it is a wooden sign that will have interior back lit letters that will sit into the cupola so it becomes a part of the building as opposed to a pylon type of sign. The type of, this is perhaps the point where I should show you a sample of basically this is the height of that letter which you'll see in the sign... But if it's up at a height of approximately 37 feet to the top of that cupola. But the sign is down somewhat from that. Now all of the letters will be back lit. It will say Americinn Motel and Suites. The other ... will be out of wood and the liberty bell which is...logo of the Americinn franchise. Other portions or other things that are unique to this project are the balconies that are on this project. I believe there may be one or two other buildings throughout the system that do have balconies but they're on a very limited use... integrated into the building on a much finer fashion than has been done in the past. The window trim and the exterior columns are unique issues with this building. Again that was in keeping with the vernacular of the neo traditional... in dealing with the Villages on the Ponds and some very concerned about being sure that that was integrated into this building. You see it on the ends of the building where the pool ... and stylized in the balcony... The brick face, which is not typically around all of our buildings. It's uniformed on this building and it tends to give a base and accentuate the neo traditional type of architecture. The accent color is to give a brightening, a lightening of more the festive air to the building. And you can see it called out in the...and the hand rails that are on the balconies as well as trim around the windows, which are ... base of the windows. And these balconies are not ... so instead of being right on top of the structure, they're actually integrated into it so that they don't appear as we've all seen as though they were about to fall off or come off... I'll briefly show you the materials at this point. We're using the Chicago brick. And though it's not called Chicago brick. We're using a used brick or a Chicago, which is the ... with Chicago brick. You can't really get Chicago brick. You have to use used Chicago brick. Used Chicago brick has lost it's space in most cases and so it deteriorates rather rapidly under weather conditions. So we're using a Chicago brick type or color. Mancino: How high up does that go on the building? Truman Howell: It goes up, just at the. Mancino: Is that 3 feet? 4 feet? 23 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 1 Truman Howell: It's 3 foot. Isn't it? Siding. Cedar siding. Straight. Straight lines as opposed to the, what is called wavy ... waving siding which has a shape to the bottom. Wavy butt. The roofing will be the charcoal Timberline, which is the next thing to cedar shake. Then I think, on the building itself this is, the cedar will be painted this on the main body of the building. The columns, the trim around the windows will be white. The window trimmings themselves will be white and then the accent color of the architectural ... this rust color. It will be used for accents around and above the windows. At this point to keep it moving ahead, I'd like to introduce Allan Kregman of HKS. Mancino: Can I ask a few questions before we move on? Truman Howell: Oh absolutely. Mancino: Do any commissioners have questions at this point? I just do generally. I have a couple. And the one, as a commission we certainly embraced Villages on the Ponds project. I mean there's no question that we have been excited about it and about the traditional village character and I've certainly followed along with Mika's vision, etc. He articulates that very well... One of the things that I have asked architecturally is, number one, he certainly in his ... that he gave us, has talked about secondary elements as in pavers. As in some of the other ' things that would be in this plan. As in sidewalks. Again the widening elements, etc. How this would all be integrated to give us the traditional character so ... talk about that a little. And those are very specifics, I know that. But secondly, how is this different from Country Suites? How is ' this idea more of a traditional village? More of a European feel. More of the Villages on the Ponds feel that we're going to get on this particular area than what we see, in all honesty, in the Country Suites in our regular, in the downtown as we know it now. I Truman Howell: This is a entirely different kind of building from the inside to the out. Number one, the materials that we're using are those that we feel are more traditional in the vernacular of, and the way—and we're using columns. We're putting columns, free standing columns around this building. Mancino: Is there...? Truman Howell: On the ends of the building? Mancino: Yes. Truman Howell: Along here ... and here, here and most of the one story. We are also bringing a column element, three story columns in each side of these here, here, the entry area of the back so that we're recalling the column basically... and I'm sure you've noticed, has basically the... columns and the base to it. And that's a traditional definition basically. And that, we've tried to do that in one of the elements of this building. And then the hand rails are very slender, crisp handrails. Nothing very woodsy or it's a much sleeker kind of. 24 1 L Ij F-1 �J Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 Mancino: And that all, that interior is also painted wood too? Truman Howell: No. Mancino: Is it metal? Truman Howell: The handrails. Mancino: No, on the siding. You use the brick and then is it cedar siding that's been painted? Okay. Can you talk a little bit about the secondary elements? I mean what are they going to be? Truman Howell: The lighting will be incorporated. The reason we don't have a light sample for you is because we haven't gotten the ones from the Village yet as to what their architect... some samples or examples of the kind that is recommended. And definitely those will be used on the site. Mancino: In the parking lot. Truman Howell: Absolutely. Mancino: And what about on the building itself? Truman Howell: We will have lighting on the building. Soffit lighting and there would also be a lighting, a ground lighting. Mancino: Okay. But their kind of traditional character, you know whether it be wrought iron, wide angle or something like that. That's what I'm talking about. Truman Howell: Absolutely. Mancino: It will be all in there. Will there be any sort of air conditioning components sticking out of the building, etc.? As we saw on some of the photos. Of the earlier. Truman Howell: There are two ways to do that. You can either make it in ... which there is a large panel that basically sits under the window as opposed to just a portion of it. It becomes the rear element of it of that window. Or you can use an architectural panel which attempts to, and paint it to match the surrounding color of the main wall of the building. We can do it either way. And we're comfortable with it. My selection of not doing it with the heavy base on it was because I thought it was too heavy to do that. And the painting it out to match the surrounding was their option. It's a matter of taste. I just felt it was a heavy element. Aanenson: Just to... Truman, we looked at a lot of different versions of what we thought... Truman Howell: Window boxes here, are not terribly successful in this part of the country unless you use plastic. 25 Planning Commission Meeting s November 6, 1996 Mancino: Pardon? I have them all over. Truman Howell: Well, but you probably maintain them everyday too. Mancino: You do need people to take care of them when you have them. There's no question about it. As far as sidewalk and the entry into the motel. Again, what is that cement? Truman Howell: On the outside? Outside it would be concrete. When you come into the building... Mancino: Any other questions specific to architecture at this point? Skubic: Your cedar siding. Is that the vertical spacing of the sample? Truman Howell: This is roughly the spacing. We can't obviously vary the overlap. This is about a 3 inch exposed. We've gone down to as narrow as 5 inch with varying success as to the character... We have drawn this at about the. Skubic: Yeah, I look at the elevations here in the print and they look much less. Truman Howell: That's the heck of a thing about a computer but you're right. That's narrower, and probably at the point that we were drawing that, we were looking at the variations and the options available to us. John Seibert: That's why we brought the breakdown of the actual section of the wall so you could get a better perspective as to what it actually looks like. Our suggestion is the wider? Peterson: Suggestion for what particular purposes? Taste or is it functionality to it? Truman Howell: No, taste basically. We think it looks cleaner with the wider spacing. More on the size and scale... Peterson: With regard to the overall colors you're using and I'm assuming that the primary color is going to be the gray with the rust accents that you talked about. Will the sign, the back lit sign be the blue that you presented earlier? Truman Howell: Yes. Actually the Americinn logo has the first 4 or 5 letters in that blue and the final three in... Today was the first day we really put these two sketches together and we were—in fact the building, the Americinn building is really compatible with this style of architecture here, which is... John Seibert: One of the things I'd like to interject at this time as well. When we did start to look at the two of these together today and looking at the color of the shingles that we were originally proposing with the charcoal. And looking at what they're... there of a little lighter VTOI 11 I L Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 texture, we then went out and looked at this particular type of shingle so we may consider lightening up the shingles to help kind of blend with the rest of the project and again, our desires are obviously to make this look as a part of the Villages on the Ponds and so we're working again to try and make sure that we are in keeping with basically what Mika is trying to... ' Mancino: John, do you have any future plans to add retail to the, you know a lot of European hotels, etc., there are the shops on the walking level of a hotel and motel. i F] John Seibert: Sure. At the present time we don't have a specific, with this particular property to do that. We have incorporated into some of our properties little gift shops and that sort of thing and it is something that we may, as the market develops here and that sort of thing, probably consider doing. But we do again have this real kind of homey, comfortable feeling and we don't want to end up getting too far away from that ... so we're trying to kind of keep that all incorporated in but it is something that can be incorporated... If I might, maybe what I should do too is, I do have a picture book I'd like to just pass through the Planning Commission and allow you to just kind of get a feel for some of the... that we have. Obviously when you get into the rooms and that sort of thing, there's going to be a lot of similarity from that perspective. And the treatments of the exterior and that sort of thing that we're showing here will allow you to see what we've changed from this project here in Chanhassen to what is currently being built out there today. So if you don't mind I'd like to just circulate that through. That will also give you a good feel for what the pylon sign looks like and some of the colors as well. Peterson: Can you talk a little bit about the 6,000 square foot expansion potential. As to where that is going to be. Truman Howell: Okay. It actually will happen at the end of this building. Off of this building. There will be, before we do that, an additional element of this kind... additional set of...balconies and I think... John Seibert: Excuse me, I just want to interject just a little bit. When we took a look at the additional expansion and that sort of thing, what we did is we wanted to incorporate the look on the building and if you take a look at this model, study model, what will happen is the expansion will occur right there. And then we'll repeat these element at this point over here and that was one of the other reasons that we really didn't want to try and put an element on the building here now because we'll break that when we get it over into that area there. You might ask yourself well, just build the whole building right now. Our approach has been a little more conservative on a company basis and we like to go into a market and then grow with the market. Add on at a later date so our intentions are that we're going to be adding onto this property and what we're going to end up doing that a year or two from now when we see that the market is doing well for us so. But that would be the element that we incorporate right at this point here, where the addition of that can occur in the building so when we looked at this, we tried to look at how we could integrate all the very different elements that were desirable for this project and how we can make sure that the future addition would also be integrated with it so it wouldn't end up looking like an addition. So that's the whole ... of how we did that. 27 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 1 Joyce: What will occupy the space that's there right now? ' John Seibert: ...and we also should have a trash disposal... , Mancino: Sharmin, in the expansion, is that taken into account in the impervious surface? ' Al -Jaffa Yes. Mancino: Thank you. ' Truman Howell: Any other questions? Mancino: Any other questions? Okay. Allan Kregman: I'm Allan Kregman from HKS. Good evening commissioners... Just to give you a little bit of background. HKS is a multi- disciplinary firm. We provided the site plan and landscape architecture and civil engineering on the project so I'm speaking on all those subjects. ' To give you further background on myself. I am a registered landscape architect and I've been in practice for approximately 20 years. It's interesting to talk about Mika and BRW because I used to work at BRW on very non - traditional landscape concepts and incorporate that into other ' projects throughout the Twin Cities. When you consider projects like Edinborough in Edina and some of the character elements in there and how the landscape and site plan was involved in that project. In the same respect on this site, the selection of the material, of the landscape material reflects elements that reinforce that neo- traditional landscape. Again looking at the site plan that the staff has presented, we've got Highway 5 on the north. Market on the west side with our entrance into the property coming off of the internal street here. That connects over to Market. , What we've proposed in the site plan is to bring traffic up into the site and get it to a point where it will go to the motel and the adjacent development that will occur to the east here. The intent is to have traffic that will circulate and provide access into the property. We've incorporated some ' of the islands that separate the two uses, which are utilized in the landscaping to create outdoor rooms and to provide the opportunities for trees that will fill the intent of the site. In addition to that we've got parking again wrapping around the structure in these areas and it's amazing to think that we've got 109 parking spaces within this small, compact space. I think it works very well. In addition, the idea of trying to create layers of landscaping and the parking I think is going to achieve by the alignment of the islands and in fact the pattern can be repeated as the ' development occurs further to the east so we've tried to consider that and how this all lays out. And if you have any questions while I'm presenting this, feel free to interject. ' Mancino: Allan, does this have the open radius that staff talked about for public safety concerns? Allen Kregman: Very good question. We did put turning templates on the site and looked at what a fire department would need. The trucks could make it through there but they will have to move into the other lanes to use the full driveway width. And what we can do is we can , introduce and relaxing the curbs to accommodate the desires of the Fire Department. I don't have any problem with those recommendations. From a grading perspective on the site, we've 28 r� I I I P, Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 got our drainage coming around the building and coming out to a low edge on this side. We've got catch basins that feed into the system as created by BRW for the building and the storm water flow will be following the piping that will be incorporated into the overall development to a sedimentation basin here that will clean the water before it's discharged into a wetland. In general, we've got a fairly flat grades in there. The lowest percentages, we've tried to maintain are a percent and a half and that will prevent bird baths from occurring in the parking lot so we've tried to keep it well formed and... The other elements that we've incorporated into the grading are significant berming along Market Boulevard and some berming in addition to that up on Highway 5 and I've got some cross sections I'd like to present at the end of my presentation that incorporate the berming and the landscaping so that you can see how we've tried to screen the parking and yet maintain views into the site. From a utility standpoint, we looked at how a sanitary sewer system will interconnect into the system that will be provided by the Villages master plan. And in addition to that we also looked at our water supply and how we would create a loop system around the structure. Again, you've incorporated three fire units and looked at the radius necessary for hoses to make sure we have proper coverage of the structure. And I know staff also mentioned comments on PIV valves. We've got that set on the back side and we'll continue to work with staff in refining the plans to accommodate any concerns that they may have in those particular areas. Now for the...I know this is the point where the most concern has been expressed and obviously we're going to be working with BRW. We have been working with them in looking at the perimeter landscape. The whole issue of the wetland landscape we had several discussions on that and meetings on that and tried to bring that natural prairie landscape that's associated with the appearance of a wetland across the front here. I think that can successfully be done and I hope that in the overall master plan for the landscape that there is some attention and concern brought out that will accommodate views in other structures in addition to the fact that your signage will be occurring here. We need to maintain view corridors to that signage in the placement of the landscaping. And that's one of the reasons why we stayed fairly low with more ornamental types of trees on the northwest corner and to provide some buffering on the edges with large over story trees. Again, we'll be working with BRW on that as that is refined. Now look at the parking lot. Again, we've accommodated staff's concerns with the need to create what I call our outdoor rooms for your landscape and as you'll see, the parking lot is broken up into fairly small areas and I think that what we've come up with works very well in that respect. The other comment I would have too on that is that, in selection of material again we have tried to utilize materials that follow the neo- traditional aspect, but also accommodate the city's ... for native species. That's kind of a blending of the two. Then you have to also throw into the equation salt tolerance of species along the highway corridors, and look at other conditions needed to a specific site such as... And overall, the whole plan we believe will create an excellent setting for the motel and will incorporate a pattern that will be able to be repeated throughout the Villages. Now in looking at the issues of landscaping, berming, and screening of the parking. I think it's very important when you look at those issues and you consider what's happening in Chanhassen on some other sites, that a very important relationship you have to consider is the relationship of the elevation of the highway to the elevation of the parking lot on the site. I know as I go down TH 5 further to the east there's a few sites in there that have some berming and landscaping that really doesn't achieve any screening of the parking lot and I think that the key element is not the height of the berming in relationship to the parking lot per se, but it's the height of the berming in relationship to the view 29 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 1 Mancino: Well when you talked about just ornamentals, that's where I was. I 30 , point out on the highway. As we've tried to show by illustrating a view line through the site, accommodating the point of the top of the berm and how the land form in itself will achieve screening of the parking lot and that will allow for views of the structure and the other , development behind it. Especially the promenade I think would be a very important element that you want to have visible from the highway. And then in looking at the placements of the trees through the parking lot and on the edges, to me when you do a landscaping you need to take into ' account that, what is the function of this tree. What are we trying to achieve here? And within a parking lot you're trying to reduce the heat absorption of the parking lot to try to deal with a micro climatic conditions that are created in a sea of asphalt. We've broken that up into smaller ' areas and provided trees that have a fairly good density which will provide for shade within a parking lot. And also try to have ... species on the edges, ornamental trees, over story trees and evergreens to provide for a variety. So called variation as well as accommodate those views into ' this development as well as providing for views into the other portions of the overall site. The other comment I would make on that too is that, as we look at the east /west section, which has Market Boulevard over here. One of the comments of Mika was in relationship to the density of , the landscape and the views of the structure. I think that if you consider the view angles in conjunction with that, the structure loses a story, number one. As you look up towards the upper portion of the structure, that's where the branching and the density of the trees will accommodate the screening of the upper portion so there will be some ... views into the structure of the site, but it will be I believe a very soft edge. And again we'll work with staff and if there's any enhancements necessary, we'll obviously incorporate those into here. Again, one other thing I wanted to illustrate is a person who's driving into the property. There's a parking lot there but we've also tried to even accommodate some screening of the parking lot as a person drives into ' the property. And we've got a hedge row on that edge as a person drives in to screen parking as well_ So it's not only from a highway side, because there's only one turn lane because we feel that the emphasize should be on the building. Not on the parking and a way to achieve that is by ' properly placing landscaping and having adequate screening in it. Mancino: So you're developing green walls and rooms in here? ' Allen Kregman: Yes. Absolutely. Mancino: Okay. Part of the Village character is having wonderful over story trees all over and Y g g rY so that you do have certainly a line of sight and you'll be able to see the hotel. There's no question because it's going to be three stories high and the cupola is 36 feet tall. But we would still expect to see some over story trees on that Highway 5 side because that is part of the character of the traditional village. Allen Kregman: I agree with that. The vertical elements do create that character and vertical elements can bring more of a human scale. You can sometimes use a variety of species, some which may be a little bit taller and some which may be a little bit shorter. ' Mancino: Well when you talked about just ornamentals, that's where I was. I 30 E r I F — L Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 Allen Kregman: On the northwest corner of the site, yes. And the intent there was to provide for screening, a lower level screening for the structure. The only uses out on that edge would be for the outdoor plaza, which we talked about, and I know Mika mentioned some issues of landscaping in there. Obviously we want to have flowers and have some very nice ornamental types of landscape that will be very attractive and really draw attention to the character. But again, if you put larger trees in this area here, you're going to be losing views of the signage from this intersection, which we feel is an important element that needs to be preserved. Even with the placement of the evergreen trees that we've got out here, we've tried to accommodate views across the promenade as well as views back into... There is a place where those trees should occur and in working with the undulation of the berming that we've got and the low point is where we place the evergreen trees to maintain the integrity of the berm and at the same time provide for variety and enhancement of the landscape on that edge. Aanenson: Can I just give you some staff comments on the scenario that... I guess that's why we turned it over to BRW... I guess to keep this project moving in good faith, we agreed that BRW could come up with a master plan to make it appropriate but I want to make sure that you understand where the staff's... Mancino: And while we're being real ... BRW comprehensive plan, some sort of visual renderings so that we can, and so that the applicant can make sure that with overstory, that we would still be able to see their signage, which I know is important. Allen Kregman: And obviously we'll be working with BRW in the final version of our landscape plan to accommodate all of their ideas. F1 n Mancino: So we want to do both things. Make sure that they can see their signage and make sure that it still retains that traditional character feel of having the overstory trees. Any questions at this point? Thank you. John Seibert: I guess at this time what I'd like to do is address the recommendations of the staff, and also go back and ... and then at that point in time open it up for any additional questions that might end up being. First of all, in reference to, we've spent a fair amount of time talking about the landscape issues along Highway 5, and I don't want to reiterate that. What we're really asking to look at this evening, is to look at the site specific, excluding the highway corridors because they're going to be incorporated into an overall landscape master plan. So I'm asking this evening to make the approval based upon the landscape plan that we have designed, to incorporate the actual interior of the project. Rather than to be as specific about the Highway 5 corridor. Appreciating, understanding the importance of that. Appreciating and understanding the staff's concern and also on the other side, appreciating and understanding the architectural review board of Mika Milo in making sure that we don't block the project so of course the project can be seen as well. So there are issues there that I think we all need to work through in reference to BRW's assistance on. So I guess in reference to that recommendations, that you're making in reference to 1 through 5, hopefully you'll understand in working with BRW and trying to control the view path. 6 obviously incorporates the fact that our landscaping in our project is to be compatible with the entire Villages on the Ponds, and I think you see it as understanding 31 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 that we're proceeding in that direction. There's reference made to the fact that we should utilize a variety of street furniture and that sort of thing. And I guess what I'd like to do is, I'd like to just give you a little bit of feel for how we're planning on going about that process. This is an outdoor patio area, and the outdoor patio area does have access from our pool area, as well as it will access to the walkway system that goes around the entire project. And so I our intent obviously is to make this outdoor patio area this festive area. It is going to be a focal point on the project from the Highway 5, and also the Highway 101 /Market Boulevard. And the intent would be there obviously to utilize festive colors in the umbrellas, the lawn furniture and that sort of thing we're going to end up having out there so we're intending to have as a very focal point in the entire project. And that also is one of the issues we've talked about in what kind of landscaping do you put around this so you can see it best so you see the struggle that we're going through, but we're definitely trying to address all those issues. In addition to that, what we have for furniture here, we envision we'll have...benches sitting out front that again will end up giving some of that exterior lawn furniture feel. So we do envision that those will be incorporated in probably as well to incorporate a bench over in this area too. Again, to bring that warm, inviting feeling to the project. We understand and we appreciate the value of having our place looking like it's very comfortable and inviting so I assure you that our directive in this whole process is to accomplish that. So in reference to 7, I guess I certainly would suggest or recommend to the Planning Commission that that is something that we will incorporate into it. Again in reference to number 8. Our understanding was that we would need to present a separate sign package for permitting purposes. To get a feel for what kind of signage program we're anticipating tonight and was presented to you by the presenters. In reference to number 9. Obviously when a final plat is, we understand that a final plat has to be filed in order for us to go ahead and apply for building permits and so forth and the developers obviously are assuring us that they're going to take care of that process as well. And we're also very accustomed to the fact that we are going to be required to end up having some financial assurances that the landscaping process will take place and that it will end up being completed as again we are presenting to you this evening. In reference to 10, we again in talking about that. Where it talks about the access onto the property through this road that's just to the south of the motel building. And given the fact that that is somewhat of an unknown at the present time, the County is supposedly going to end up having to patrol that access, we've been dealing with the State as well as the County as well as staff in working through the concerns and the issues in reference to that. Some of the cirulcatory type fashions and that sort of thing that we've looked at, do preclude to us the need to have that right - in/right -out access to help eliminate some of the congestion that will actually occur up at the stop lights_ So this will hopeful help eliminate some of that process and back -up that might occur internally so those are issues that we've been looking at and working with the State and the County and staff on so I would again plead to you in the fact that this is an issue. Appreciate it's an issue and we're all working diligently in trying to get a resolution to that particular aspect of it I'll refer to the circulatory patterns that are developed within the project. We have not had the opportunity to sit specifically with the Fire Marshal to review what his direct concern was. We did feel that we addressed some of those circulatory concerns when we designed the project and as Allen has expressed this evening, if it requires us to cut back the curbs or round the curbs a little bit more, we certainly have no objections to doing that. In reference to item number 12. We currently have 13 fire hydrants on the site. Or 3 fire hydrants. Number 12, 13. I'll get myself back in line here. In reference to the specific site, we do currently have 3 fire hydrants on 32 I 17, I re u Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 the site and in here they're making reference to the fact that we provide three additional fire hydrants. I'm not sure if that was one where there were none. Mancino: Total of 3 Sharmin? There needs to be just a total of 3 on the site? Al -Jaff: Correct. Mancino: It doesn't need to be 6, does there? Al -Jaff No. It's a total of... Mancino: And you just want them to be in accordance with the City Fire Marshall's recommendations? Al -Jaff: Correct. Mancino: Okay. Does that make sense John? John Seibert: Sure. We have no problem with that. But when we looked at it we said we had to have 6 fire hydrants and in dealing with our engineers, they said why over kill on it. Three does cover --- so just a clarification there and we do comply with that recommendation. 13. In reference to the site utility improvements. We understand, and the developer understands that separate permitting is going to be required on that. Storm drainage to be revised and catch basin... address those particular issues on there and again we have no problem with the recommendations that staff has made in reference to the sizing on that. Mancino: Any other concerns with the last few. You don't need to go through them John but are there any other ones that you have a concern about and would like to, need some clarification on? John Seibert: No. And the rest of those on there were basically issues that are going to be taken care of in the process of all this. I would like to make reference to this lighting plan. Item number 19. Here again it says specifically to us that we have to provide a detailed lighting plan at the time of our building permitting process so I apologize that we didn't have that shown to you tonight but our understanding was that that would be done at that time. Then in reference to Mika Milo's comments... I hope again I've helped you understand that we do have a festive community that we're trying to develop on the exterior, on the pool area. We do have an enlarged pool area that's larger than all the rest of our properties so we take that festive environment inside and carry it on outside into that patio area so we're looking at that as being a very festive and recreational type of environment. Mancino: John, one real quick question. John Seibert: Sure. Mancino: I'm assuming there is no roof top equipment. I mean there is not going to be a big. 33 Planning Commission Meeting v November 6, 1996 John Seibert: No. The way we handle our particular building is we use through wall units and we take care of all our heating and air conditioning through that whole fashion. And then the air exchanges that are occurring inside the pool area, those actually occur within a mechanical room so the unit sits inside that mechanical room. Mika had a couple other concerns that he addressed, that I'd like to just make comments to if I might please. And that was he had made reference to the fact that he'd like to see. What Mika had addressed is, he was concerned about how we deal with this element on the building and he wanted to repeat that. Well in that area we also have an elevator incorporated and it just physically doesn't fit into the building to be able to use that particular element so I don't want it to be looked at as being one well, we just don't want to spend the money. Obviously we've spent a lot of money towards this process and are spending more on this than ... that this particular layout does not accommodate that issue and so when we visited with Mika about that he said, okay if you can just give me a little more break up on that. We did that with the columns and that sort of thing. I think we've addressed that issue and again I wish he were here so he could speak to you directly on that issue rather than through written material. So we did try to address that particular element. The other thing that he talks about is the landscaping to the northwest. You'll note that he's making reference to the fact that it should be smaller landscaping so again, I'm not going to take that issue any further than what we have at this point in time. With that I guess I'd like to conclude with the fact that we obviously are anxious and if you talk to Lotus Realty they'll tell you. Yes, these people have been bugging us a lot and our desire's obviously to try to get on winter construction fairly soon so we can end up being open for next summer. We would like to end up being kind of the forerunners in the process of development of Villages on the Ponds and we feel that it will be a very good draw to the entire development and help spur development on. So our anticipation is that as soon as we go through the permitting process and that sort of thing, is to go ahead and start construction. And that means we would do winter construction on this particular site. We are accustomed to that. We have done a lot of winter construction and in our particular type of business, it's very important for us to be open during the real strong part of the season so our intent would be to try and move the process through as rapidly as we can so we can be open in May or June of this coming year. We started out with a project being 77 units and we do hope to expand to the project up to 95 units. The parking issue that we were concerned about with there is certainly one that we're concerned about but again we need to work with BRW to understand the berming and all of those issues but we do have a concern about losing 11 parking stalls out of our parking lot. And I guess I make reference to that because you need to understand that we're trying to be a part of this overall community. When people come to a motel, they're a little more destination orientated and because they're destination orientated, they want to park there. They don't want to park over in an office building or over in a restaurant and then walk to the motel and spend the night in the motel. So that's why we've been so concerned about that particular issue and Sharmin made reference to the fact that we don't want to lose 11 parking stalls. She's correct. We don't and we don't because we're looking at number one, providing our customer with the convenience and availability to the parking. And then also to ... our ability to expand our parking. With that I would invite any questions you would have. Mancino: Are there any questions at this point? 34 i� 0 l� Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 Al -Jaff: If I may make a correction. You asked earlier if there were a total of 3 or 6 fire hydrants. Condition (k) on page 21. Mancino: Of addition of 5 will be required. Al -Jaf. . Three additional fire hydrants. Al -Jaff So that would make a total of 6 and not 3. Mancino: I'm sorry, 3 additional. Aanenson: You certainly have an opportunity between now and Council to meet with the Fire Marshall— Mancino: Okay. And maybe we could put that as a condition. To get clarification with the Fire Marshall. John Seibert: And I guess that's what I would request at this time. Just to get additional clarification from the Fire Marshal. Mancino: Any other questions? Well thank you. You've given a very complete presentation. Answered lots of questions so I thank you for that. Can I have a motion to open this for a public hearing. A motion and a second please. Joyce moved, Peterson seconded to open the public hearing. The public hearing was opened. Mancino: This is open for a public hearing. Anyone wishing to address the Planning Commission on this item, please do so. Anyone? Seeing none, may I have a motion to close the public hearing and a second. ' Joyce moved, Peterson seconded to close the public hearing. The public hearing was closed. Mancino: Comments from commissioners. Craig. Now let me just come up with a couple of things here. We will see a comprehensive landscaping plan from BRW. Probably at the beginning of the year. It will include the TH 101/Market Boulevard side and Highway 5. We will also be seeing, the signage will be coming back to us in more detail and exactly what that is. I guess those are two things we'll be seeing later. And a lighting plan will be coming when the final plat goes so I'm assuming the lighting plan will not come through the Planning Commission? Aanenson: No. Mancino: Okay. 35 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 , Peterson: Well I've been struggling with this one since we got the packet last week, and I've been searching for, searching for ways to articulate how I felt about the project itself. I bring the, ' I guess the commissioners back to the last year or so that Mika and Vemelle and Brad have been talking about this neo- traditional style of architecture. This warm European feel and the vision for what that community is or what we want it to be. And I tried to fit this structure in here within that same European feel, and I'm not able to do it. I'm searching for what part of the design that that doesn't work. I heard the presenters talk about, that it does fit the design standards. I see the comparison with the drawing. The rendering below. And I look at those two ' and I don't see a correlation between the two. I see the bottom rendition, which is a pond being much more European. Much more with a defined character than what the motel has. I guess I look at that and in many ways I see, whether there's a Midwestern style or more of a, almost a Western style feel to the actual model itself. I do see it as a big box. I'm trying to offer ideas that would make it more of a warm, inviting kind of a building but even though it was offered by the developers, I don't feel that. And I'm struggling with giving advice as to how I gain that. I , look back at the design standards for the Villages and try to correlate some of those issues that were brought up and the standards set forth by staff and the overall developers and I also have a hard time correlating the two. You know I think you look at the pictures that were presented for, you know as far as what the current buildings are as far as what the Americinn's are doing too and I think they are pretty typical boxy style motels that I don't think that is what we originally , had envisioned or what we had thought we were getting when we talked about the Villages on the Ponds concept originally. And I think that in and of itself, I think Americinn's have done a nice job of presenting a motel. I just don't think it fits within the Villages on the Ponds as it's ' designed today. The upscale image, I don't see that. That was offered earlier as far as a characterization of it. I think it's a nice style building but it being the focal point of really what Villages on the Ponds is going to be, it's the most visible structure probably that's going to be ' there. Closest to Highway 5 so I think we have to be even more careful about what goes in from an architectural standpoint than any other building in the development. So I guess, other than just the architecture of it, and even the building materials I don't think lends itself to what the , character of the Villages on the Ponds really was set forth over the past year. At least was intended in my mind. I would look to the other commissioners to get a feel. ' Mancino: Can ou talk directional) at all? Y Y Peterson: Well, there were numerous pictures that were presented over the last year have much , more of a brick feel. Much more, you talked about pavers before. Meandering kind of a feel that there is much more lines of architecture. Roof lines that had more character. There's awnings. ' There is much greater use of windows. Of unique styles. I mean if you look back at the presentation booklet and the pictures, whether it's in Europe or the Grand Avenue in St. Paul or the downtown character that, even throw in Excelsior as an option. Has more of a distinct and ' uniqueness to it that I think is offered by this proposal tonight. So I'm not comfortable with what the architectural lines, nor necessarily how the building materials fits into what I envisioned. You look at St. Hubert's Church. You compare the two and I can't. I don't see them correlating easily. As far as being similar in character of design and building materials. 36 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 Mancino: Any other comments? Peterson: I think that's it. Joyce: Well I'll have to say it was a well thought out, logical presentation. I think it's a very, very nice project. But I have to agree totally with Craig. I think it's how are we going to integrate this into the Villages on the Ponds and where it is a nice project, I don't know if it integrates well with that. It's ironical to discuss the neo- traditional concept through all these meetings but this is a motel. M- O- T -E -L, which to me says it's automobile friendly. And just the mention of the 11 parking spaces, how they need the 11 parking spaces so that their customers can come in there and be closer to their motel doesn't lend itself to what Mika was saying about bringing in the pedestrian. So I, originally when I heard there was a motel. It's not an inn. It's not a hotel. It's a motel. I think that's an important distinction. It's the first project in this, the first site plan we've had for this project so it's also kind of an anchor and will give the flavor to the whole project. And I don't know if that's, I guess I'm just agreeing with Craig. The flavor is different. I've been standing up and down looking at that. Looking at St. Hubert's and I don't see, they aren't similar. I don't see the dormers. I don't see the brick that Craig had eluded to. The varied architecture. I'm giving comments. I don't have any direction. It looks like the developer is very intent on putting Americinn's in. It's totally comments. Just comments. I mean it follows all the requirements and everything else but I have to make those comments so that's basically it. Nlancino: Bob. Skubic: I think Craig and Kevin have pretty much voiced my feelings on this. It is a very nice motel but I also don't see that it meets the intent of the Villages on the Ponds PUD. I think it meets the letter of the plan but not the spirit and you know it has the features. The cupola and the dormers and so forth but it's not, at least what I had come to expect by looking at some of the earlier renderings. And I guess that's something that, that's why the Commission is here to try to help put intentions into some ordinance here but I'm not sure how to do that. I think what Kevin and Craig have said covers as much as I would have to say about it. Mancino: Ladd. Conrad: Well it's interesting. It's certainly a situation where there's certain expectations and maybe this is not appearing to be the, fitting the expectations. I'm not sure that I had the same expectations in reality. Are we creating a European village? Is that the expectation that we are? I'm not sure that there's a market that's going to come in that really does re- create a European Village. So if we have that expectation, you know I think there's a design direction that way but I'm not sure that it's really going to happen so if that's our standard, then maybe this doesn't fit and maybe nothing else will get built. Real interesting situation. I think this is, it is a motel and it's probably not to the same vision that we saw with all the pretty drawings that Mika did. I guess I don't have the same degree of expectations that maybe I've heard other Planning Commissioners say. I think this is sort of a lead project in the area. Does it set the design standards? It probably does a little bit. But does it make the area more viable to start the rest of 37 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 the projects? It probably does that. It probably gets the project rolling. So my comments are a little bit more specific. Probably saying this is acceptable to me with some changes. The things that are a concern to me are the vistas into the lot and therefore the BRW landscaping plan will be very interesting. We have to break up parking lots. If we've learned anything, the parking lots are just, we don't need big parking lots. And when we start adding the second unit, if it's a restaurant in this area, then all of a sudden we're building back parking lots. I liked very much what this developer has done in making the little pockets for parking. I think that's quite nice. It's, I like how that is. The berming and landscaping though has to shelter that so again I think it's real important that if a building like this goes in, that we give that building the right signage exposure. The light building exposure. Yet we do cover the parking lots and create the vistas that we had envisioned. The things that, the other two things that I'd just say. I didn't see all the details that I thought we would be getting. I really thought there'd be more details in this, and again I didn't expect grandiose details. Mancino: What kind of details are you talking about? Conrad: We're talking about benching. And we're talking about things that accent the unit and boy, these are not costly things but they were handled as a secondary, oh we'll do them and 1 think they should be part and parcel of the presentation so unfortunately you're the first test case that we have and that's, here we go. But those details should be there because I think that's what we all brought into. We all have different visions of what this whole area should look like. But the details have to be there. The other side, and I guess the bottom line for me personally would be that this is probably acceptable. The west elevation is not acceptable. I think Mika brought up some good points and they have to be considered. This is the friendly side of the building. I like this. The other two sides are really not friendly. The north side is friendly. I like the patio. There's some really nice things. I like the cupola. I even like the potential signage that I see. I think it's fine. What's not fine is the westerly and southerly exposure. Primarily the westerly exposure and Mika brought that up. And I just don't think that's a difficulty in doing it but it's the warmth of the area that, it's the warmth of the community that we should be bringing out in some of the details. And the only other thing I have to say specifically is on the parking on the south side, there's not a sidewalk for those parking stalls which means we'd be bumping them out into the street, if they were really hotel customers parking there. If that is full of hotel. So somehow we need, in design considerations we really, we can't have people walking into the streets. So maybe there's something I don't know but again if those are for hotel guests and they are bringing things into the room, we can't be bouncing them out into the street. So that's a detail but, so just to recap some individual details that I think are important on the building site like this and what we talked about are benches and lighting and I think we've referred to it as a primary concern. Not a secondary concern. And then the westerly elevation I think. Mancino: And the south. Conrad: And the south, yeah. It just has to be broken up somehow and I don't think we've done it. So where I'm at is, I think this is acceptable for my expectations but I think it needs a little bit of work. J J Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 Mancino: You'd like to see it back...? Conrad: Probably, yeah. Mancino: Jeff. Farmakes: What more is there to add? Maybe some more constructive things. I guess in talking about, when we talked about details and talked about lighting and benches. I think there was more to his comments than lighting and benches. The issue of detail I think is kind of glossed over a little bit. Potentially working more brick than just 3 feet of wainscoting into the structure. When you talk about neo- traditional and that's such a broad term. In looking at the structure, possibly shutters. Possibly widow walks that break up those two bigger slabs. And working the brick up in breaking up some of those large gray clapboard. That is the problem. It looks more motley than what people are talking about their expectations are European village. I got the interpretation in listening to Mika talk is the issue of European village is more how different structures were set up between retail and apartments and things of that nature than trying to do a Disneyland recreation of a European village. That really wasn't the intent per se. So I don't expect to see a stucco alpine lodge here with flower boxes and Greta sticking out of the window there. On the other hand, this kind of goes back in the general comments that we were talking about all along and before ... we were talking about issues of detail in the buildings and traditionally franchise buildings omit that. They omit detail. Detail in material and those are the things that give, that lends character. Mancino: Connect it into... Farmakes: Well fit in but also building up to a different level. It's not your standard building. You go up to the same building driving down the street 20 times, going into... Things aren't mechanical. The thing about corporations is that they often spend a lot of money standardizing those things because they feel that that type of look projects their image. You know a McDonald's when you see it. And to a certain extent that's a good thing. On the other hand, communities like, are like any other people who buy a home or live somewhere. They want some individuality in the community. They want some idea that that's a special place, or it's a cut above. I think if you were to look at that project when we talked about details, a brick is always a good one. Shutters. Changing the roof lines here and there. This area here where the cupola is, somewhat more of that I think is a good thing. Trying to incorporate some more breaking up on the other two wings here. What you talked about it in the integration of the landscaping. To wait on that. Nothing further constructive to say. Mancino: Good comments. Alison. Blackowiak: Okay. I don't have a lot to add. I do agree about the importance of detail. And if this is to be, as Mr. Seibert said, a flagship location, I think detail would be very important at this point. Nancy mentioned pavers or something at the entrance. ...benches. Those types of things would add detail and add interest to the project. So I fully agree with that. I guess I'm coming to this a little bit late so I don't know what the expectations were for this whole project. I don't see 39 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 European village when I look at that motel. I do see it more with the promenade rendering that is below. So I don't know if there's, and again I'm not going to comment in that direction but what could be done to maybe tie it more into that village feel, or that promenade feel? Just some comments about the trees in the northwest corner. That whole thing. I think we need bigger story or over story trees in that corner. I can't believe that you need a sight view with small shrubs to see a 37 foot cupola. That just doesn't make sense to me. I think it could accommodate some larger trees in that corner, and the trees would, it's a whole package we're looking at. It's not necessarily just the building itself, and I'm talking about basing approval on the interior of the project, not on landscaping. Well this is a package that we're looking at so I think we need to kind of look at the overall feel and I don't get the overall impression that it's a finished package right now. Mancino: Thank you. Good comments. I'm comfortable with the contingency that it's on BRW comprehensive landscape plan coming in and our reviewing it ... for the perimeter landscaping. And hopefully the comments we gave tonight, staff will take them into account when you are meeting with BRW and with Lotus. And I think the architectural comments have been very good and I'd like to see it back again and I'd like to see some of the more detailing, secondary elements that Mika talks about, integrated so we can actually see it and maybe bring photos of what you're talking about. And also I'd like to see the west and south elevations have more detail, more character to them. Make them more welcoming because that west side is so big. And that's where many of us will be coming in from Market Boulevard so I would like to see it again. I also agree with, and I think some of Jeff's comments about a widow's walk. More brick. Breaking up the large gray areas and changing some of the roof lines and maybe shutters, etc. Those are all things obviously that you could take into looking at, at the design or changing it to some degree or adding to it. And I'd also like to see a sidewalk on the south side. I thought that was a very good idea too. Pedestrian friendly part of it. So may I have a motion with that? Brad Johnson: Can I add one thing? Mancino: If you can come forward. Brad Johnson: I'm Brad Johnson... I think this has been a tough one to present because it's basically a motel. Most of what you have looked at as far as our proposal is concerned, and all the drawings that we've done, if you look at it, I don't think they've changed much to the village. It's always had an L shaped building on one corner. The difference is most of the architecture that you're talking about was in the core area. And all the illustrations that you see around here are core area of the village type of content and I think you can deal with both issues. I mean this is a psychological... That we look at the core area, and I don't know if we've got a plan or not but we perceive and, and this is just a practical thing that we're going to get into. We think that we'll control and provide the image, and by the way the architecture that Mika is presenting is called Upper Midwest Traditional. It's not European and that's why we put in the barn. You know if you look at some of these you'll see barns and things. That's the kind of stuff... The European part of it is the friendliness. The streets. The walks and stuff like that. But he was trying to use an architecture that was a little bit eclectic and if you look at some of the things that we've done, in your books you'll see it. It's very eclectic. I mean we actually have a silo on one M F Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 of the buildings. One over in here someplace so, that's how I was trying to explain it. I think the European thing comes from the tightness of this area and when you start looking like that, I don't know if that's European or not but that would be our vision if we were to do this of that. It turns out that this little area right here is a $18 million project. And it has to be done all at once we decided. So we'll bring that in and we'll have some control over the that. What's going to happen however, as we try to finance this project. In other words we have to sell some land and build some buildings in order to do the core area. Much like we did with St. Hubert's. They were kind of a finance. Americinn came to us almost 18 months ago and offered to be a participant and because of their interest, and obviously they've changed their hotel tremendously from their standard one, to try to upgrade to meet sort of our goals. I think we're kind of halfway in- between of what we were trying to do. Each of these sites out here, I mean let's see, where are they first. Oh, it's not north. Remember the problem? So this is north. This building, this building, this building, maybe not this building, but this building, this building. These out here and anything along in here and here, are going to be sort of somewhat more traditional... you know we aren't planning on building those ourselves and we're going to have to deal with whoever that is. And they're going to have their standard building. You know whether it's Park Nicollet or a clinic or something, they all have standard buildings that they'll try to adjust to this use. I mean that's the way it's going to be. They'll come in, not as a franchise but a standard building that they're used to using. And I don't know what we'll do ... because that's this one, this one, this one and probably down in this area. This core area, is sort of that. We asked Mika to do this. This core area was where a lot of our grant money is going because we probably couldn't do all this unless we had the grants that we seem to be able to get for the project. I think that's where, I'm just trying, if it's going to be a problem, I think they've done a very good job of trying to adapt. I'm sure they're going to listen to some of your comments. I think they'd like to be open next summer. I mean that's a critical time. We're building a hotel today ourselves which we're going to open January I'`, which is absolutely disaster and if we could open in the summer, they cash flow better and all that stuff so I would, we'd like to see it just kind of move along and make some changes because I think the adjustments that we're talking about is that yeah, it's not perfect but it was out here see and people showing you all this stuff. I'm not trying to sell any of that but that's how I think I based it. We've got to do certain things in this to make it look, and we have to attract other developers like Americinn, to come in and do things. And you know, that's just what we're like. We have to figure out how, one issue is should people be able to see in here? Or should they be able not to see in. Well we'll have to come to some conclusion on it. And the same thing is, as you're dealing with, you know you guys are right. This does not look like that That's right. I don't know what we can do about that. Other than they've been working on it and I think they've been listening to you. Aanenson: I hope we have a PUD ordinance that takes care of that, otherwise. Brad Johnson: Well no, I'm just saying is. Well they'll meet the standard but it may not look like this. That's all I'm saying. It will meet your standard but this meets, this meets your standards. It didn't meet your expectations. Mancino: Well we can also make recommendations. 41 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 , Brad Johnson: Yeah, and I think they're going to listen to it. I like the idea of the detail stuff and all that, but I'm just saying, that's my problem but we've tried to work through this and we've ' got to come to some grips of what we're trying to accomplish. Mancino: Thank you. May I have a motion please? ' Conrad: Yeah, I'll make the motion to table Case #96 -13. And would you like to g ive our reasons for tabling? What you'd like to see how it ' Mancino: y g y g y would come back. ' Conrad: I think I'd rather vote on the tabling and then have us dialogue for the applicant what we're looking for because there are different expectations. It's not mine so again my ' recommendation is to table. Joyce: I'll second that. I Mancino: Any discussion on the tabling? Conrad moved, Joyce seconded that the Planning Commission table Site Plan Review #96- 13 for Americinn Motel and Suites. All voted in favor and the motion carried. Mancino: Now let's give some direction. ' Conrad: And I'll start out, because it's my motion. I would like to see more detail on the building. On the west and south side for sure. I would like to see the applicant give concrete examples of the other details that we're probably looking for. Concrete meaning these are what we will do. Benches. Whether it be certain types of lighting. Not just lighting that identifies a building but the character type lighting. Maybe it's the patio area where the addition will go. It's whatever, and this is my interpretation of what this entire property is about. It's connectivity and it's letting people walk through the area and that's what I see as the big part of this project. Is it's pedestrian people friendly so I'm looking for those type of elements. And I'm looking, and I think the applicant did a good job in talking about the patio to the north. The tables but I guess I need more of those on this site. Also the other thing that I think I specifically talked about was , really reviewing seriously the sidewalk on the south side so that the cars can, the people unloading their cars from that side will have a sidewalk to walk on to get to the building. , Mancino: Any additions to that? Jeff? Farmakes: This is informal, right? ' Mancino: Yes. But it is clearly to give direction. I 42 Planning Commission Meeting - November 6, 1996 Farmakes: Well I think these two areas here the massive a areas shoe box in there the �' Y Y can t maybe integrate... brick in these areas or create some sort of relief ...long expanse of straight line. So it looks a bit more like what's going on the other end, that would help. Also it would break up a big, gray slab of clapboard. Mancino: So you like the elevation changes that are going on in this northern end? Farmakes: Yeah. Yeah. Like I said, this is all gray. If brick came up there or something to break up the expanse of it. I think the idea for the architects is to look how to break that up and detailing would be how to make it, it could be a little bit more personable. Maybe... shutters or benches or things of that nature. Mancino: Any other comments? Direction? Peterson: Like I told the other comments too. I think possibly the columns that are in there could be, I think the pictures render them as, photographs of these were wood. Timber style. They could be brick again to warm up the feel. I think just breaking up the building a little bit. Adding more of a rich. I Mancino: I'm sorry, Truman didn't hear you. The columns being, instead of wood, brick. May help in breaking up the expanse also. Peterson: I would, I think just look at reconsidering the exterior building materials just as far as, I don't think they present again we're operating on assumptions here but that that style of siding may not necessarily be conducive to the rest of the Villages on the Ponds. I'm making an assumption there. And potentially even the color. I mean we're looking at, I had in my mind more of an earth tone versus the gray, which presents kind of a colder, impersonal feel, than what I heard you presenting of what you wanted the motel to be like. You wanted that warmth, inviting and whether gray is your standard color or not, I don't know but it didn't present itself as being inviting from my perspective so general feedback. i Joyce: The only point I had was, I do agree with the planning staff as regards to 11 parking stalls. I think the applicant should come up with another option. I think it's important to work in that green space and pedestrian trail that the staff has put together. And that'd make me a lot more comfortable with the project if they could consider something to do with those 11 parking stalls or work it into what staff is directing on that particular item. That's all I have to say. Mancino: Thank you. Thank you very much and we will see you maybe in 2 weeks. ' POST OFFICE CARRIER ANNEX SITE - UPDATE. Public Present: Name Address 43 1 n W: \HKS\ PROJECTS \96055 \DRAWINGS \85 -96055 Fri Nov 22 11:36:50 1996 HKS Associates, Inc. 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Chairwoman Mancino called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Nancy Mancino, Craig Peterson, Ladd Conrad, Bob Skubic, Kevin Joyce, Jeff Farmakes and Alison Blackowiak MEMBERS ABSENT: None. STAFF PRSENT: Kate Aanenson, Planning Director; Bob Generous, Senior Planner; and Sharmin Al -Jaff, Planner II; Jill Sinclair, Environmental Resources Coordinator; and Dave Hempel, Asst. City Engineer SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR A 45,505 SQUARE FOOT AMERICINN MOTEL & SUITES LOCATED ON LOT 1, BLOCK 1, VILLAGES ON THE PONDS, JOHN SEIBERT. Sharmin AI -Jaff presented the staff report on this item. Mancino: Any questions for staff? Sharmin, can you point, you made a recommendation, staff made a recommendation to add some more landscaping in the north, northwest corner. Can you show us where that is and what your concerns are. Al -Jaff: In this area. Mancino: And we will, just so I understand. We will be seeing a comprehensive perimeter landscaping plan from BRW for this site. Al -Jaf£ Correct. It will be for the entire. Mancino: So what we see is going to change? Al -Jaff. Probably. Mancino: ... Secondly, when the addition, and I think it's a 800, 600 to 800 square foot addition being added in the future. Will that come back in front of the Planning Commission at that time? And how do we make sure that it does? Do we need to do something tonight? Aanenson: Well there's two ways to handle it. Generally, if it's less intensive... the way the code is written is that staff can administratively approve that. We generally look at architectural compatibility. If we felt that it met that intent, then we would administratively approve it. If you 71 Ii �J �J I 1 Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 felt strongly about there's certain things you want to see, make sure ... or a third option would be if you wanted to see it. I guess we would say, if you're comfortable with the theme that we're doing, unless there's something specific you want to make sure is addressed, we would handle that administratively. Unless there's something specific that you're concerned about. I'm not sure if... Okay, then it would have to come back. Mancino: ...administrative question that I have. On page 8 where you have site coverage ' and ... site coverage, etc. Under Sector II, one of the first columns. It's commercial /retail square footage and you've got down, and I'm assuming this is Sector II, correct? ' Al -Jaff. Correct. Mancino: You have 60,000 square feet under commercial /retail. That includes 47,000 square foot motel space. When the expansion is done to this, it notes earlier in this report, the square footage will be 52,000 ... and I'm assuming the balance of that 60,000 is restaurant. ' Al -Jaff. Correct. ' Mancino: So is that going to give the restaurant enough square footage do you feel? And do we have to be concerned with that now? Al -Jaff: We brought this issue up with the applicant and right now as they would... between the two buildings... Mancino: I just wanted to make sure that everybody is aware of that and we're not doing something that I feel would cause problems for the next time... And we can, as it says in the paragraph below, the building square footages can be reallocated. Ll 1 I� Aanenson: But the bottom line is that we have to maintain ... the EA document there was a certain threshold that we have to maintain. So you can ... you can approve but they can't exceed the... that was described in the EA document. Mancino: Is everybody clear right now... Any other questions for staff at this point? Peterson: Just going back on your comment. I really couldn't... that remaining square footage is enough for... Aanenson: ...one of the issues that we probably may have to ask to have it reallocated, which... So if you're going to take it somewhere else, you're going to lose it somewhere so... Mancino: But we could get it from the office service area which is 14,000. Aanenson: No. Mancino: No. Does that answer it for you Craig? 2 Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 Aanenson: It has to stay apples and apples. You have to stay within the commercial. If you're taking from another sector of commercial. That's how the EA document. Mancino: And I just brought it up just because... talked about. So we don't have a problem. Peterson: It's got to come from 114,500, right? Mancino: No, it's got to be from 174 total? Peterson: But what we're saying is, if we're using 50 some thousand of the 60, we've got no place to take it from so there is an issue. Potentially. Aanenson: No, because... Peterson: But you're saying you can't take from Sector I and move it to Sector II so you are definitely limiting the size of the restaurant going on Sector II. If you're using it for the motel. Aanenson: No. You were right the first time. There's a total of 174,500 square feet. That's your total commercial. We allocated it to two different sectors. If you go over in Sector II, then the only other place you can take it from is Sector I. Mancino: Because that first line says, building square footages may be reallocated between sectors subject to approval by the Planning Director. Aanenson: Right. You're moving up and down within that sector commercial /retail. You can take it, you can't exceed the 174,500. That's the bottom line. Peterson: Right. Alright. Mancino: Any other questions? Does the applicant wish to make a presentation now? Vernelle Clayton: Hi, I'm Vemelle Clayton. Gee, this is louder than most. I live at 422 Santa Fe Circle in Chanhassen and I'm with Lotus Realty. I introduced these folks before and in the interest of time I will just introduce John Seibert, who will speak in just a second and introduce the rest of the folks who you've already met. I want to say just a couple of things. I think you'll .appreciate, as Sharmin has alluded to, all of the work that they have done. We're excited about the changes that they've made and we're fully supportive of their project. I also want to reiterate something I said two weeks ago which you've also discussed and that is that ... BRW is working on some pretty exciting things for the hardscape and landscape and we want to consider the items that you're looking at conditions of approval tonight. I want to ask you to consider a little rephrasing of the, relative definite impact of the changes that the applicant shall, as a condition. We need to I think either be directing rather the developer to consider each of those suggestions because I guess I can't see how we can have it both ways. It is important that the peripheral area be one cohesive, well developed plan. It's important for a couple of reasons, one of which will i L t -1 Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 come up again tonight, but one is just the aesthetics. We need to have you all look at this as all ' one plan. All the village and secondly, all along Highway 5 there is the northwest in a PUD, which prohibits certain types of plantings. Some of which have been placed here and we need to have a good plan that deals with that. If you have any questions, I'll be around. Mancino: Thank you. John Seibert: Good evening Madam Chairman, members of the Planning Commission, staff. I'm John Seibert, Vice President of Construction and Real Estate for Americinn and I live in Dayton, Minnesota. The situation we have here this evening is to basically go back through ' some of the recommendations that were made to us from the last particular Planning Commission that we were at and once again I've brought a number of staff with me in order to u attempt to try to give you the opportunity to ask them questions and they'll also make some presentations. Vernelle Clayton is here obviously, as she's spoken already and Mika Milo, who's not ill tonight. I'm really pleased to hear that but he'll be here this evening, and Mika Milo who is the Architectural Review Committee and he'll end up giving you his opinions in reference to how we have incorporated the changes that we've made and how they fit into the overall plan. Mr. Crentin is here this evening and he is with HKS and he has done the civil engineering for us as well as the landscape review. In addition to that we have Truman Howell from Truman Howell Architects and Mr. Howell has been the architect on this particular development and he is the one that obviously has spent a considerable amount of time revising and putting in a number of changes that we've brought with us. We have also tonight brought along with us a revised study model, and as I mentioned to you the last time, the study model is definitely one whereas to be looked at as a study model. Not as a ... model. And study models are basically again to try and give you a 31) perception as to what the actual project will look like. That has been revised from what we originally had. Mr. Howell will end up showing that a little more in detail. We've also brought along with us the exterior finishes as well as some additional renderings. There's only one thing I'd like to point out in reference to the renderings and that is that the coloring that is on this..., roof coloring on this one, the roof coloring is not green. Unfortunately when you reproduce once in a while the original color that was on there won't reproduce the same and so I don't want you to end up envisioning that as a green roof. It will end up looking just like we do out here. The weather shield type of a look. We also have a number of courtyards and specific details in reference to how these court yards are going to end up being landscaped and we'll also end up having information as to what type of lighting is going to be utilized on those as well. I do want to tell you that a considerable amount of time and effort has been gone through in an attempt to try and bring this project to where we felt it needed to be. I will very candidly tell you that I have had a very difficult time struggling with what neo- traditional is so I went to Celebration. Now you might say well that wasn't too difficult of a time to do it, this time of year with the snow on the ground. However, I specifically went down to take a look at Celebration to see how Disney, quote unquote, fit into the neo - traditional concept. And the thing that I walked away from that particular project with the most was the fact that they have variety and community and within the variety, what they did is they have just about any kind of design that you can think of and as I was going through it I noticed that there is colonial, reveal, there's mediteiranean, there's Victorian, there's classical, there's coastal, there's French design so it is a myriad of different designs that they're utilizing. And in reference to the community, which is I El Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 think one of the things that we had struggled the most with in this particular project, is to allow people to feel the freedom to be able to stroll along through the whole concept. And I think you'll see tonight that by the very different landscape areas that we've done, along with some of the pavers that we've incorporated and so forth, that we've pretty well aligned ourselves with what we've actually seen down in Celebration and what you're really looking for up here. First of all, as Sharmin mentioned, we have soften the colors on the building and we've moved to the warmer colors versus the colder colors. We've also enhanced the festive areas and we've provided some very specifics on those. We have brought with us some signage information for you tonight so that you can review how we anticipate the signage will look on it and we've also got the cut through section on the signage that you can end up taking a look at. How that signage will look on the face of it as well. And Mr. Howell will end up getting into those very different aspects for you when he makes his presentation. In reference to the landscaping, Allan Crentin will end up giving you his overview on that and one of the things that we discovered in the process of going through the landscaping and trying to incorporate additional over story trees along the north perimeter was the fact that there is indeed a power easement that runs right along through there and Mr. Crentin will show you where that easement falls and how it affects the very different plantings that we can end up putting in there. We also have taken a look at the emergency vehicles circulation and Mr. Crentin has met with the Fire Marshal. They've reviewed that and they've taken care of that. They've also taken a look at adding the additional three fire hydrants that we needed to do as well. A sidewalk was added along the south side, which was an oversight on our part originally. And then we've revised the parking lot as Sharmin mentioned. We've deleted those 11 parking spaces. In reference to the property lines, I don't think that's going to be an issue but I assure you that the developer's going to work agresssively with us and also with the City and so forth in making sure that we are going to make the property lines where they actually are supposed to be so I guess on that point I can't tell you more than that because we haven't seen where they potentially might vary but we are assuring you that we are going to work with them on that. At this time I'd like to introduce Mika Milo and have him give his input as to what he envisions our project looking like in reference to this entire complex and the Villages on the Ponds. Mika Milo: Your Honor, Planning Commissioners and Chairman. I'm pleased to speak tonight a little bit about that project that you are also very familiar at this point with. And we'll let you know that over the past 2 or 3 months we have been working rather extensively with the owner of Americinn and their architects and their design team and fine tuning and defining their design so that it fits into the overall image of the Villages that we have been trying to achieve and then describing the design character booklet that you have all seen before. I can say—was several reasons or several... where we addressed additional problems that we saw in the initial design that was submitted and that was ... planning department and the staff pointed out so really worked as a team on that and we met also together here with the Planning Department a couple times at least with the design... And the result of all that is that the number of changes to add in terms of materials, colors and especially the mass and bulk of the building and the design detailing. We are real pleased now with where that design stands at this point. We think it's going to fit within the overall image and character of the Villages. One of the concerns was the face of the building towards TH 101, the west face, that was kind of relatively long and it was not articulated enough and that was one of the main concerns with those expressed and... And I'm pleased to see that 5 u Li r. 11 L 1 Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 that also has been ... all the way with the roof highlighted areas there along the top. There is ' more ... to the building overall, as the mass of the building has been achieved... And so with all these improvements and even the quality being of somewhat modified. I'm simply saying that we feel that that design will fit into the Villages character. It is going to fit within that neo- ' traditional theme that John Seibert was struggling and ... to verify what this was all about, even though I think the character... But anyway, if you have any questions of me. ' Mancino: Any questions? Thank you. John Seibert: Thank you Mika. At this time I'd like Truman Howell from Truman Howell Architects to make his presentation in reference to all the very different changes that we've made from the last time to the present time. Truman Howell: Truman Howell, Truman Howell Architects. I live in St. Paul... This has changed a great deal, and thank you for bringing this into the light Mika. But as you can see ' from these two renderings alone, many things have changed and been modified on the project. I would bring this up again. As you see this is the model... ' (Truman Howell stepped away from the microphone as he was explaining the model to the Planning Commission.) Truman Howell: ...I'll basically go through the items that, and I don't know how far back you want me to start. We can talk about where we've changed since the last presentation or would it be easier just to proceed on to what we did from the last point? Well first of all we've broken up the massing of the building with the additional elements and details. All dormer and balcony areas were fully bricked to give you the impression of actually a separate building type. The building here—we've actually introduced the brick all the way up around the back portion of the building so, in fact we've got... to put that as a main element to change basically the looks of what we had prior to that. On the west elevation, as we indicated, we've added a separate dormer and a new configuration of balconies and railings. We've introduced simulated stone to try and ' give you a feel for it there. At the window heads and the sills in these stone material that will appear as stone material. Not only there but also in capping all of the brick that surrounds the building... modification of the free standing columns to... But we've added a cupola to this portion of the building at the change and direction of the buidling as it turns 90 degrees on the site to again break up the massing of the entire building. We broke the entry canopy into two levels. Again, ' to help give an impression... looking at another kind of building. An outside building. An outdoor space as opposed to a long extended canopy. We divided the chimney stacks so we get somewhat more of an European flavor, if we can use that term. We added on all of the windows, ' instead of the projected units, the through wall units being exposed as we had in the previous project. We now have an entire louvred screen over the through wall units so that they will appear as a portion of the framing of the windows. Mancino: Excuse me, can you say that again? 6 Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 Truman Howell: Okay. The through wall units that actually do the heating and cooling in the individual units, that projects through the wall, okay. And so in the previous one there was a concern. Mancino: Does it actually come out? Truman Howell: Yes it does. It actually sticks outside the building. So what we've done, and actually you can see them below the windows. And it was indicated to us that they stood out as a separate element and were not terribly attractive. What we've done is taken the framework around the windows on the exterior so that we maintain that, and then we brought it down so there's no covers that projected... I'm sorry. Nancy Mancino made a comment that was not heard on the tape. Truman Howell: Right, exactly. We're enclosing the dumpster area. Someone didn't care for lattice work I guess and ... and we now have a brick enclosure with a simulated stone cap on it. ...it is pretty much hidden from any kind of anyone understanding that it might be a dumpster location. Sorry I'm reading from notes but there's quite a few of these so I want to make sure that I get them. We're extending and roofing the first floor exits at the end of the building for an additional texture on that face. The facade is really limited to ... elements again trying to break up the large spaces and add interest to that facade. We use that as an entry then at the end of the building for the guests there and made a statement as... We made an additional three patio feature areas at strategic locations on the site. Now if we could have a site. This is the patio area that you talked about... providing walkways around it. Put lighting in there... Those basically are the elements that we have made modifications of on the last presentation. If you would like me to discuss the signage at this point we can do that. If you'd like to wait and if you have any questions about the building at this point, I'd be happy to answer them. Mancino: Any questions of the building? Blackowiak: Do you have a rendering of...? Mancino: Truman, on the west elevation. Can you pull up the one... I noticed the balconies and there aren't... Peterson: They are functional balconies. On those balconies... where are the HVAC systems? Truman Howell: Those units... Peterson: What's the thought of below the areas that have balconies? Was it intentional or... Talk about the columns going in front of the ... the circular... Truman Howell: We'll use either a drivit system or use a...clad fiber reinforce product that snaps over a structure. 7 I --I 17 r 1 f Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 Peterson: And the color will be? Truman Howell: White. Joyce: ...service door, right there. Is that new? Truman Howell: No. Joyce: I don't see it on this. Truman Howell: Well it is now. Joyce: No, I understand it... Truman Howell: No, basically that handles our lawn equipment that we'll be using to take care of our... Peterson: Did you change the width of the driveway? Last time... Truman Howell: These are all half scales. We should have mentioned that. These items are actually half scales. The full size one would really have been a problem so we are, it's proportionately accurate, but we are wider here. Peterson: Were there any discussions, I think it was brought up last time about the width of the siding. That the narrower siding would be more of a richer feel than the wider, 12 to 16 inch. Truman Howell: Well it wouldn't be that wide. 12 -16 but it probably would be 8 to 10. I guess I didn't get the impression that that was an issue. Peterson: I didn't know if it was brought up or not. Maybe I was thinking about it. Skubic: I believe the... Truman Howell: Really what happens when you begin to put shutters on a building like this, you do have windows fairly close together and all of a sudden they begin to take over an entire building. So we felt it was more appropriate to bring the grid down and make a larger statement in that area as opposed to widening it. Mancino: Any other questions? You wanted to talk about signage. Truman Howell: Alright, why don't we talk also about lighting as well. We have chosen an antique type fixture, which I'm sure you've seen. Can you see that? I mean that's a fairly common one that we've seen before. And we're planning to use those around here and we're suggesting that they be used in the parking lot actually. However, we're confused somewhat by a suggestion in the report. We don't care which way you want to go but it talked about viewing ' Planning Commission Meeting - Decembe r 4 , 1996 boxes or cut -off s for lights. Now obviously on these types of fixtures to have a cut -off is very difficult. If not impossible, and so the typical box fixture, which is a tall lamp, say 20 feet, can ' be used. However, the feel would be somewhat different than what we were looking at here. So we're happy to go either way. It's just that I think we need to maybe get the feeling of where everyone is. We can in fact provide at a lower level, and I mean lower level, not an illumination , but in height, a lamp similar to this only it'd be a double fixture. That would give the... of the luminating engineers suggested level of lighting for a parking lot. Mancino: I think ... isn't that covered in the comprehensive lighting plan that we...? Vemelle Clayton made a comment that was not picked up by the tape. I Truman Howell: I would think the appearance would be, yes. Okay... Obviously the materials in the roof would be the same as we have on the rest of the building. It will have the details... Joyce: I'm talking about the cupola itself. It has a white stripe on the... And that goes throughout the whole. Is there a red stripe through the whole building? Truman Howell: Yes. Joyce: Oh I can't see. I'm sorry. That's fine. y , rry Peterson: It will be thicker than the one you have there. , Truman Howell: It will be probably a 10 inch... Mancino: Are there any other questions? John Seibert: In reference to bringing back lighting details and that sort of thing, I guess the real crux of this is to make sure you understand that we are aware of the half candle per square foot of area and the design criteria is based around that. Fixtures that Mr. Howell is talking about here were indeed such that they were to provide us with that. You can see that there's a little bit of ' coordination that's going to be required yet in order to make sure that we're again compatible with the overall lighting concept but again you can I think feel fairly comfortable with where , we're heading with that. And then again in reference to signage, we're fully aware that we need to come back and get additional permitting on that so that again will end up being resubmitted at the time for permitting. At this time I'd like to have Allan Crentin come up and give his short presentation in reference to the landscaping issues and also the traffic circulation within the complex. Allan Crentin: Good evening Madam Chair, commissioners. As Truman had mentioned, in the site plan we did incorporate some thick pavings as strategic points under the canopy and around the patio. In addition to those modifications on the site plan, we also looked at access to this site ' and how the large hook and ladder truck of a fire department can get into the site and access the structure. We met with him. Had a total discussion about how their truck could get in and they 9 7 1 �rl Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 could get access to the upper portion of the building. The access that they have would not only be from ... and the south road, but it's also from Market Boulevard. So we have to look comprehensively at all the buildings. What we did do was we relaxed the radius of the access point into the site... so if a truck did come up into here, and there may be a need for them to come in and back over to the structure to get their ladder up but it is accessible for fire trucks to get to the upper portion of the structure- In addition to that, we modified the site plan we lost parking along Highway 5. We incorporated some additional berming so at our highest point is probably about 959 with our parking lot is ... undulating berming, screening with earth that will get up to 5 feet high. In addition to that we brought a trail through here and... It's a very interesting, very neat space to walk through. Another thing that we responded to from the Fire Chief was the additional fire hydrants. We now have six hydrants located around the building, working with the Fire Chief to make sure that we have the proper placement and accessibility for the Fire Department to deal with any situation that would... Again, water and the ... is tied into the overall system that would be... The next item that we dealt with was landscaping, and I would like to hand out some additional sheets that show the NSP easement on the north side of the property because I think that affects some of the selection criteria on the landscape. We've also had conversations with NSP and specifically their individual who deals with easements and encroachments into the easements. NSP is very particular in terms of what they will allow and what they won't allow under a power line and we have secured an approved list from NSP in terms of plant materials that they will allow to occur under a power line and we'll gladly share this with staff. But the maximum height that we can deal with for plant material on the north side here is 15 feet. And that's unfortunate because what we would like to do ... we're going to have work closely with Lotus and the overall theme of the development because I think it's very important that we maintain some view corridors into this site. Into the promenade area of the development. And in order to achieve that there's going to have to be some openings that occur with the undulation of the berming and modulation of the landscape. But obviously that issue's being handled by Lotus and their people but we are cognizant of what they're trying to do and trying to work with them on that issue. Aside from that we have increased the quantity of plant material of the shrubbery along this edge. Trying to again promote the screening of the vehicles ... as I've been coming through Chanhassen quite a bit lately, because we're working on that other shopping center.... I would expect that one of the issues in looking at parking lots, the screening and the views from Highway 5, there's a relationship of the berm height to Highway 5 and not the parking lot. And I think that's a real critical issue. We've addressed that knowing that ... give you an effective screen of the parking area. So I just want to make sure that you're aware of that. We know how that works and I think this will work to your advantage. Mancino: I have a couple of questions. Allan Crentin: Certainly. Mancino: Are you done? Allan Crentin: Yes. 10 Planning Commission Meeting a December 4, 1996 Mancino: I'm sorry. I'm seeing that ... where do I exit, how do I get over to the restaurant? How do I know what paths to go to or I want to go to the pond... Or let's say it's 9:00 at night. Will the trail system on the north side there, will there be some lower level lighting along that trail system? And how will I know...? Allan Crentin: I think I may have to defer that to Vernelle in terms of overall issues. Vemelle Clayton's answer was not picked up on the tape. Mancino: But that will be kind of addressed so that when people... Allan Crentin: We have incorporated lighting in the islands here which will, excuse me area lights_ But I certainly understand the need to have something more specific occur. Mancino: Some low ambience lighting. Can you show me the trail or the sidewalk... brought up the last meeting. Allan Crentin: We have added a sidewalk on the south side of the property, adjacent to the parking, which comes through the property and will be picked up and tie into the sidewalk system that will be incorporated into the overall development. Our sidewalk also ties up into the sidewalk that gives access to the front entrance, as well as access up to the trail systems so we're well interconnected with the network that is proposed for the development. Mancino: And Dave, on the east side of TH 101, will there be a trail also ?... (There was a tape change at this point in the discussion.) Mancino: So that we can all make sure that that south sidewalk connects to TH 101. So people can walk... Allan Crentin: So you want this connection right here then, okay. We can certainly do that. Mancino: Is there any sort of traffic control landscaping, median, whatever done ... on TH 101 in this area? Hempel: This section of TH 101 is fairly built to ... south to Rosemount. Mancino: How, if I'm sitting out sunning myself after going swimming indoors, am I going to be protected by, am I going to be ... landscaping and buffering? Allan Crentin: We've got vertical landscape elements that will give a sense of privacy for the patio, and at the same time I know that there are elements in the patio itself that will provide some sense of privacy. It's more of an introspective space, if I was to describe it versus being something that we are going to looking out into Highway 5 or even TH 101. 11 Il J 1 1 P_J Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 Mancino: Any questions? Any discussion? Thank you. John Seibert: Thank you. At this time what I'd like to do is just go back and re- address the varying different recommendations that staff has made in reference to this particular project, and if you'd like I can certainly be, I'll be happy to go through them on an individual basis. Obviously items number 1 and 2 have been omitted at this point. Item number 3, I think you can understand that we have some difficulty with the evergreens because of the power line easement. That's all going to be worked out in an overall plan. I don't feel that we want to spend a lot of time dwelling on that because it is an issue that is in the process of being worked on, and the same is true of item number 4 where it talks about the overstory or evergreen trees along that same corridor. In reference to item number 5, we will be doing this and installing aeration as needed for the vary and different islands. And item number 6 talks about again our overall comprehensive landscape plan. We again are going to be working with BRW and are fine with that particular issue. Mancino: John, can I interrupt you for a minute? Are there any of these conditions that you have ' concerns with? Otherwise are you pretty much in agreement with any of them? With all of them. If you could just pick out those that you have... John Seibert: Sure. Let me just address a few of them please. In reference to item number 9, you're talking about requiring financial security and one of the things that we're going to want to understand in the process of having this particular recommendation accepted is to what exactly is that financial security going to be? If it's in reference to posting a bond or something of that nature for the landscaping or what, but at this point it's fairly ambiguous. And so we would really like to have a little more definition in reference to that issue. Hempel: Madam Chair, maybe I can address that. That condition relates to all public utility improvements. In other words, if they're privately owned and maintained... Mancino: So if we just added in the financial guarantees will be submitted to the City to guarantee all public utility improvements? Hempel: And landscaping. Mancino: And landscaping. John Seibert: In reference to item number 10. We again appreciate the fact that the right -in, right -out is still up in the air, and at this point we would again want to make sure that that continues to be maintained in it's entirety as it states there, unless it's approved otherwise. Mancino: Certainly I would think that staff is in agreement with that. John Seibert: And in reference to item number 16. We don't have any problem with making sure the construction vehicles and so forth don't enter in off of TH 101 or TH 5, except for the 12 Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 fact that we're trying to say to ourselves, where exactly are these construction vehicles supposed to be entering in and off of? And again the way that reads, it leaves us like... Hempel: Madam Chair. The intent was that we don't want them jumping the curbs..., which is a main street... Mancino: Okay. Then maybe we should add that language. John Seibert: If we could, I'd appreciate it. Mancino: Curb cuts on, okay. John Seibert: Okay. Those were the only real concerns I had. I guess in conclusion I'd like to again reiterate that I'm sure you can see that we've spent a fair amount of time and effort in attempting to try and accomplish the concerns that the Planning Commission had. And I don't want to be remiss, and again reinstating the fact that we at Americinn are extremely proud of our facility and this indeed will be a flagship of our particular properties. And this particular property is again a quality constructed building. It's a masonry concrete and it does end up providing a real sound structure and so it's one that your community can be very proud of, and I would be remiss if I didn't once again reinstate how strongly we feel about that particular aspect of it. And tonight what we're obviously asking for is approval of this site plan review process and we would like to indeed have it incorporated such that the recommendations by staff are as we've gone over to this point in time, included within that particular motion. And we're happy to answer any other questions you may have at this time. Mancino: Thank you. Any questions for John at this time? I just have one general one. About parking spaces. We're requiring 78 and you're providing 98. 20 extra. John Seibert: If you'll recall, we do want to add an addition onto the building so we're going to be looking at the expansion side of the building so when we do expand, I believe the number was to 98 that we could expand the building to. And so that in turn is where we came up with that number and why we'd still like to keep that number of parking spaces. And there within that, I might also add that the restuarant will end up having a cross easement agreement with us and so therefore they'll end up using some parking. Mancino: And we certainly do ... speak for all the commissioners, appreciate all the time that you've put in since our last meeting... That's it. I don't see any reason to open this for a public hearing tonight, although... commissioners. Craig. Peterson: I really don't have a lot of comments. I think staff has definitely worked with the applicant to address the issues we brought up last time and I'm comfortable that we've met all, if not most of those issues, at least that I had... You can't get away from the fact that this is a big building that is going to have some areas that are going to be long and rather cold. I think that adding the cupola in one area and adding brick certainly has given it a nicer feel. I really like the way that the entrance has changed into that double tier. I think it's much more inviting than 13 t 1 Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 before. I guess the only ... may be on my own personal opinion but ... is the siding width. The ' cedar lap siding that was presented last meeting being the much wider than what we're seeing here tonight. You know I compare it a little bit against, I think it's the same width of the Chanhassen Inn has off of TH 5 now. That longer width but I just somehow think, in many ways ' now I think it fits in less with the structure than it did before with all the additional brick. I think it just gives it a richer feel if you go with the lower width siding on the building. I don't know if there's costs reasons for the wider or not but... Other than that, I think they have gone truly a ' long ways in meeting with some of the expectations that we set forth last time. Mancino: Thank you. Kevin. ' Joyce: Well I thought initially it was a good development, but not really for this project. Particularly as it being the first tenant of this property, I thought it was so important to set the ' tone for what we're doing here for the rest of the project. I think obviously what we're trying to achieve is kind of a unique development. One of quality. Certainly a theme but I don't think it was contrived. This could ... I hate the thought of being compared with a Disneyland type of ' development. I think to me neo- traditional is really attention to details and variety. And something that isn't utilitarian or ... look, which I thought the original presentation was. We ' really need to concentrate on the details and I've seen that and I think the improvements really --- our vision here for this whole project. So, and I think as a Planning Commission we're going to run into this again and again. How do you explain this vision we have, and I guess if I ' was to use the idea of neo - traditional, what made those old buildings so special was the detail that was involved with it and I think... I think this will be a nice showcase for Americinn so I'm in favor of it. ' Mancino: Ladd. Conrad: Nothing new to add. I like it very much. I think they did a good job bringing back what we asked for. Just two issues. Six fire hydrants. That's a huge number of fire hydrants. I can't remember circling anything with six fire hydrants but that's for you folks to figure out but wow. And I sure like the character of the street lights that the applicant is bringing in. If that meets standards in this district out in the parking lot, I'd sure like to carry that through. Yeah, that's what we're looking for here so I'd really recommend staff to try to make that happen if we can. Again, safety... Mancino: Is there a condition in here about the comprehensive lighting plan...? As we give comments, can you look at that so we make sure that we include that. Bob. Skubic: Well it's certainly come a long ways. I congratulate staff and the applicants for doing all the architecture here ... good looking piece of architecture here. And I was one of the people who felt it should have European character to the building. I was convinced that we're doing the right thing here... There's been a lot of good detail added and we still have some inclinations... I ' do like what you've done with the window openings. The architectural... I also would be interested in narrow lap siding. I think it adds more character to it. That's all. 14 in Commission Meeting - December 4 1996 , Planning g , Mancino: Jeff. Jeff Farmakes' comments were not picked up on the tape. ' Blackowiak: Overall I like the detail. I like the benches. I really like the entryway, the pavers 1 and the changes to the columns. I'm still concerned about the trees in the northwest corner. ' That's not been addressed and I don't think that area falls within the NSP easement area and I would like them to look at doing something with that northwest corner... I like the antique lights ' a lot. If we could meet the foot candle requirement in the parking lot, I'd really prefer that we do something like that to continue that feel out into the parking lot as well. And Sharmin, I was looking at page 15 about the lighting and I don't know if that applies to the entire PUD. Okay. ' Al -Jaffa ...specifically for this development... , Blackowiak: So that they could change and do some type of an antique style and still be within that...? Okay, great. And then I've got a couple little nit -picky things I guess. Splitting hairs. Conditions 10 and 16 are talking about access, construction access. I would suggest we add , direct access to and from. And as well on number 16. Construction access to and from because I shutter to think when we get some heavy loaded truck pulling right out onto Highway 5 and causing an accident or something so I'm again splitting hairs but that one jumped out at me. , Other than that I think it's great. I think a lot of work has been put into it and a much improved plan is the result. Thanks. , Mancino: Well I'm truly xcited about all the changes... M only comments are the same as far Y g Y Y as the narrow width siding ... and on that western side of the indoor swimming pool. That area and just south of it. Those walls, I think that they could be enhanced with more landscaping. ' That that is an area when you come west on Highway 5, that's going to be your entrance to the motel so you are going to see it right there and I think that there could be some added interest there. Whether that is worth going all the way up the wall or whether that is landscaping that is ' very well done, and I would just look at that corner because it is so visible and so prominent and is part of the welcoming side. Other than that, those are my comments. May I have a motion please. ' Skubic: I'll make the motion. The Planning Commission recommend approval of Site Plan #96- ' 13 for a 45,505 square foot Americinn Motel and Suites facility as shown in the plans dated October 7, 1996, subject to the conditions 1 through 20 with the following conditions being striken. Number 1 is striken. Number 2. Should I go through this or? With some alteration to ' the conditions. Condition number 9. The second sentence should read something to the effect that financial guarantees must be submitted to the City to guarantee all public utility improvements and landscaping. And condition number 16 which should read, construction ' access directly from Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 10 1) or Trunk Highway 5 shall be restricted to the existing curb cuts. Is that alright Dave? 1 1 Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 1 Hempel: If I could modify that a little bit to read the construction access to and from the site ' shall be limited to approved access points from Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 101). Approved for the Villages on the Ponds. LJ� r Skubic: That's all I have... Mancino: Any friendly amendments? One of the friendly amendments I would like to add is that it's, the plans dated November 26` instead of October 7` That would be those plans. And I would like to add another friendly amendment. That the siding be cedar siding with the smaller width, 6 to 8 inch siding the entire motel. And the only other friendly amendment I would like to add is to one of the Fire Marshal conditions, which is (k). And that is only, can we do a triple check on adding three additional fire hydrants because I think that's been checked already. Do you accept those friendly amendments? Skubic: Yes. Mancino: And are there any others? Is there a second to the motion? Mancino: Any discussion? Farmarkes: Second. Skubic moved, Farmakes seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of Site Plan #96 -13 for a 45,505 square foot Americinn Motel and Suites facility as shown on the plans dated November 26, 1996, and subject to the following conditions: 1_ More evergreens shall be planted along the northern boundary. 2. More deciduous overstory or evergreen trees should be added to the northwest corner of the property to increase the landscape effect. 3. Aeration tubes must be installed in islands and peninsulas less than 10 feet wide. Applicant must provide plans and insurance of success if alternatives are requested. 4. The applicants shall incorporate the comprehensive landscape plan currently being prepared by the firm of BRW into the Americinn site plan, after City approval. 5. A separate sign permit must be submitted for all site signage, except for traffic control signage. The applicant shall submit detailed sign plans reflecting a recessed panel with individual backlit letters. 6. Site plan approval shall be conditioned upon the developer of the Villages on the Ponds recording the final plat and all pertinent documents for the PUD with Carver County. Financial guarantees must be submitted to the City to guarantee all public utility improvements and landscaping. Also, the applicant for the Americinn shall enter into a 16 Planning ommission Meeting - December 4 1996 , g g 9 nt with the City and provide financial security pertaining to specific Site Plan Agreement y p y p g p improvements on Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the Ponds. 7_ Direct access from Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 101) shall be prohibited unless approved otherwise by MnDot and Carver County. ' 8. The parking lot configuration shall be revised to accommodate emergency fire apparatus. The applicant shall work with the City's Fire Marshal in revising the parking lot ' configuration accordingly. 9. Three additional fire hydrants shall be placed on the site in accordance with the City Fire I Marshal's recommendations. Plans shall be revised accordingly. 10. Site utility improvements will require separate building permits from the City's Building I Department, i.e. sewer, storm and watermains. 11. Storm drainage plan shall be revised to include an additional catch basin across from catch basin manhole No. 62 and provide a 15 inch storm sewer lead east out of catch basin No. 64. ' 12. No building permits will be issued until the final plat of Villages on the Ponds has been recorded and the site has been graded in accordance with the approved grading plan. , 13. Construction access to and from the site shall be limited to approved access points from PP P Market Boulevard (Trunk Highway 101) and Trunk Highway 5, as approved for the Villages on the Ponds. 14. Lot 1, Block 1, Villages on the Ponds is subject to full park and trail fees per city ordinance. One third of these fees will be paid by the developer of the Villages plat. The remaining two thirds shall be paid at the time the building permit is granted. 15. Fire Marshal conditions: , a. A 10 foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e. street lamps, trees, ' shrubs, bushes, NSP, US West, Cable TV, transformer boxes. This is to ensure that fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to City Ordinance 9 -1. , b. Yellow painted curbing and no parking fire land signs will be required. Contact Fire Marshal for exact location of signage and curbing to be painted. Pursuant to 1991 UFC ' Section 10.206 and Section 20.207(a) and Chanhassen Fire Department Fire Prevention Policy 06 -1991. c. A post indicator valve will be required on the fire service line coming into the building. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location. 17 Planning Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 1 d. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 01- 1990 regarding fire alarm systems. (copy enclosed) 1 e. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 04- 1991. Notes to be included on site plans. (Copy enclosed) ' f. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 07- 1991 Pre -fire plan policy. (copy enclosed) ' g. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 29- 1992 premise identification. (copy enclosed) ' h. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No. 36- 1994 water line sizing. (copy enclosed) ' i. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy No.40 -1995 fire sprinkler systems. (copy enclosed) j. Comply with Chanhassen Inspection Division Policy No. 34 -1993 water service installation. k. Three additional fire hydrants will be required, one existing fire hydrant is to be relocated. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for new locations. Staff is to verify that this conditions is correct. 1. Submit turning radiuses on Fire Department access routes to City Engineer and ' Chanhassen Fire Marshal for review and approval. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.204. m. Prior to construction fire apparatus access roads or access shall be provided for every factility, building or portion of a building hereafter constructed or moved into or within the jurisdiction when any portion of the facility or any portion of an exterior wall of the first story of the building is located more than 150 feet from fire apparatus access as measured by an approved route or on the exterior of the building or facility. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.203. ' n. Fire apparatus access roads shall be designed and maintained to support the imposed loads of fire apparatus and shall be provided with a surface so as to provide all weather driving capabilities. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.204(b). ' o. When fire protection, including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire protection is required to be installed, such protection shall be installed and made serviceable prior to and during time of construction. Pursuant to 1991 UFC Section 10.502. ' 18 Plannin g Commission Meeting - December 4, 1996 ' p. The Fire Department sprinkler connection shall be located adjacent to the main vestibule to the building. Contact the Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location. ' 16. Concurrent with the building permit, a detailed lighting plan meeting city and PUD standards shall be submitted. 17. All rooftop equipment must be screened in accordance with the PUD ordinance. I 18. The siding for the entire motel shall be cedar siding with the smaller width, 6 to 8 inches. , All voted in favor and the motion carried. SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR A GREENHOUSE AND OFFICE BUILDING ADDITION ON TO LOTUS LAWN AND GARDEN LOCATED ON 2.3 ACRES OF PROPERTY ' ZONED BH, HIGHWAY BUSINESS DISTRICT AND LOCATED NORTH OF HIGHWAY 5,78 WEST 78 STREET, JAY KRONICK. Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item. Mancino: Any questions for staff? Is the applicant here? Jay Kronick: I'm Jay Kronick. I reside in Chaska. I'm the property owner. I guess I don't really have any problems with the recommendations made by staff. I was a little surprised to find out ' about the requirement for sprinklering, particularly the greenhouse. A steel structure with rigid plastic siding and not much else to it other than some plants and presumably metal benches and a concrete floor eventually. I've been exploring some ways around that. Haven't come up with ' anything. If you folks can help me out, I'd appreciate it. If I have to sprinkler the greenhouses, I will. There's plenty of water in there anyhow. Otherwise the recommendations, I don't have any problem with any of them. I did want to indicate to the commission this evening that I submitted a site plan which would hopefully foresee the mayor types of changes and improvements I would envision making over an undetermined period of time. A number of years. I don't anticipate having a means without incurring additional debt to do all this at once. It would be my intention during the next construction season to complete the building but some of the other improvements would have to wait and be done in successive years as time and circumstances permit. ' Mancino: So you would phase that? Jay Kronick: Yes. Yes. Other than that I have nothing else I think I need to enlighten you with. Well one thing. It's noted in here that we will match the existing building and I think our siding is about 6 inches wide right now. 1 19