8. Conditional Use permit for Two Bldgs on the same lot, 335 West 79th StreetCITY OF
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PC DATE: September 6, 1995
CC DATE: September 25, 1995
CASE #: SP 95 -13, CUP 95 -3
By: Generous:v
PROPOSAL: Conditional Use Permit for Multiple Buildings (2) on the same lot and site plan
approval for a 1,255 sq. ft. drive through car wash
LOCATION: 335 West 79th Street (West 79th Street and Great Plains Blvd. - Lot 1, Gateway
First Addition)
APPLICANT: Gary Brown _
1831 Koehnen Circle
Excelsior, MN 55331
(612) 934 -2155 .
PRESENT ZONING: BG, General Business District
ACREAGE: Approximately 0.46 acres (20,280 square feet)
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE: N - OI, Office & Institutional, West 79th Street and Railroad ROW
S - BH, Brown's Amoco
E - BH, Rapid Oil Change
W - BH, Great Plains Blvd. and Holiday Station
WATER AND SEWER: Available to site
PHYSICAL CHARACTER: The site has been previously graded for development.
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PROPOSAL /SUMMARY
The applicant is requesting a conditional use permit to allow two principal structures on one lot.
This parcel was combined with the parcel to the west under one property identification number.
Combined, the properties meet the minimum lot requirements in the Highway Business, BH,
zoning district. The applicant is requesting site plan approval for a 1,255 sq. ft. drive through car
' wash. The proposed building is rectangular in shape oriented longitudinally north and south and
is 14 1 /2 feet in height. The applicant is proposing the first ten feet of eight inch wide lap siding
' topped with 4 1 /2 feet of dark brown inset panel siding. The applicant has also provided an
alternate building elevation that incorporates a standing seam metal pitched roof element. Staff
is recommending that the pitched roof be required as part of the site plan approval.
' Staff is recommending approval of the conditional use permit to allow two structures on the same
lot as well as site plan approval subject to the conditions contained in the staff report.
BACKGROUND
In February 1993, the City Council approved the Gateway 1st Addition subdivision
combining both halves of this parcel into one lot as well as creating the lot for Rapid Oil
Change and the Hanus building. (The subdivision has not been recorded.)
In December, 1986, the property was zoned BH, Highway Business District.
On December 5, 1983, a Conditional Use Permit ( #83 -8) was approved by the city for a car wash
on the western half of the site. Approval was conditioned on the following conditions:
That the building depicted in the official site plan be shifted 5 feet to the west.
2. That the applicant enter into an indemnity agreement with the City holding the City
harmless for any costs in restoring the concrete curb and bituminous hard surface
roadways constructed over the permanent 15 foot sanitary sewer easement.
In February, 1974, the property was zoned CBD, Central Business District, as part of the
adoption of Zoning Ordinance 47A.
In February, 1972, the property was zoned C -3, Service Commercial District, as part of the
adoption of Zoning Ordinance 47.
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Update September 20, 1995
Page 3
GENERAL SITE PLAN /ARCHITECTURE
HIGHWAY 5 STANDARDS
This property is located within the Highway 5 Corridor District, HC -1 District. The project must
comply with the architectural design standards within the district, the intent of which is to attain
high quality in both design and construction of the development. Specifically, the development
must be consistent with all plans and ordinances; must preserve natural conditions to the greatest
extent feasible; must establish harmonious physical and visual relationships with existing and
proposed development in the corridor; must use appropriate materials, lighting, texture, colors,
architectural, and landscape forms to create a high quality design concept; must contain one or
more pitched roof elements; must create a unified sense of internal order; must create a suitable
balance between the amount and arrangement of open space, landscaping, view protection
through screening, buffering, and orientation; must provide safe and adequate access and internal
circulation; and must provide adequate separation from adjacent properties. Staff believes that
this development has met the intent of the ordinance based on the proposed design and the
conditions of approval contained in this staff report.
ACCESS
The proposed site is to be accessed from the existing car wash facility located on the corner of
Great Plains Boulevard and West 79th Street. The proposed drive aisle is approximately 9 feet
wide and the radius is too tight for passenger -type vehicles to easily maneuver. The drive aisle
should be a minimum width of 16 feet face to face which will allow for passenger vehicles and
truck utility vehicles to maneuver the site. Staff has attached a copy of a revised driveway layout
(Attachment #1). The same holds true for the access leaving the proposed car wash building.
The drive aisle is currently proposed at 9 feet wide and the turning radius would be too tight for
passenger -type vehicles.
Traffic circulation through the site needs further modifications. The current proposal is to route
traffic back through the existing car wash out onto Great Plains Boulevard. Great Plains
Boulevard restricts traffic movements to a right turn only which then would require a U -turn at
the intersection of Great Plains Boulevard and West 79th Street. Staff recommends that another
access be routed to the east and north of the proposed car wash building back out to West 79th
Street. This drive aisle should be a minimum of 16 feet wide face to face.
LIGHTING /SIGNAGE
The applicant has not provided lighting or signage details. Building signage is permitted on
street frontage (West 79th Street) only. Any signage, with the exception of directional and traffic
circulation signage, would require a separate permit.
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GRADING AND DRAINAGE
Only minimal site grading will be required to divert drainage, and create the building pad and
drive aisles.
' Storm drainage from the site will be maintained, for the most part, in its current conditions which
is overland drainage to existing catch basins on Great Plains Boulevard or the Amoco gas station
to the south which is also owned by Gary Brown, the applicant. Prior to site grading erosion
control fence shall be installed along the southerly property line to prevent erosion off -site.
UTILITIES
The site is proposed to be serviced from sanitary sewer to the south and water service from West
79th Street. The plans propose on open- cutting West 79th Street and tapping into the existing fl-
inch watermain. According to City as -built records, a 6 -inch water lead has already been
extended to the site from West 79th Street. Therefore, the applicant will be required to connect
to the existing 6 -inch lead versus tapping into the City line in West 79th Street. Water and sewer
inspections will be required by the City's Building Department and/or Utility Department.
Permits will need to be applied for and obtained from the Public Safety Department.
MISCELLANEOUS
' In conjunction with another curb cut on West 79th Street, the City does have boulevard
landscaping that may or may not need to be relocated in conjunction with this additional curb
cut. The developer shall be responsible for relocation of any landscaping materials along West
79th Street in conflict with the site improvements.
' LANDSCAPING
Staff has reviewed the proposed landscaping plan for this development. The landscaping plan
' exceeds the minimum requirement for this site. Staff recommends that two of the red maples be
relocated to the western side of the property to provide some afternoon shading for the parking
lot.
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September 6, 1995
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SITE PLAN FINDINGS
In evaluating a site plan and building plan, the city shall consider the development's compliance
with the following:
(1) Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides,
including the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may
be adopted;
(2) Consistency with this division;
(3) Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing
tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the
general appearance of the neighboring developed or developing or developing
areas;
(4) - Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5) Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with I
special attention to the following:
a. An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and
provision of a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general
community;
b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
C. Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of
the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and
neighboring structures and uses; and
d. Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives
and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public
streets, width of interior drives and access points, general interior
circulation, separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement
and amount of parking.
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' (6) Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision
for surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers, preservation of views, light
and air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations
' which may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
Finding: The proposed development is consistent with the City's Highway 5 Corridor
design requirements, the comprehensive plan, the zoning ordinance, and the site plan
review requirements. The site has few existing natural amenities due to previous
development in the area. The site design is compatible with the surrounding development
' and enhances the open space and landscaping of the area. The site design is functional
and harmonious with the approved development for this area with the revisions to the site
' plan for traffic circulation contained in this report.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
When approving a conditional use permit, the City must determine the capability of a proposed
development with existing and proposed uses. The general issuance standards of the conditional
use Section 20 -232, include the following 12 items:
' 1. Will not be detrimental to or endanger the public health, safety, comfort, convenience or
general welfare of the neighborhood or the city.
' Finding: The proposed development is located in a planned commercial area serviced
with urban infrastructure and shall not be detrimental to the public health, safety, comfort ,
convenience or welfare of the community. The development enhances the appearance
and convenience of community residents through the provision of service opportunities.
2. Will be consistent with the objectives of the city's comprehensive plan and this chapter.
Finding: The site is designated for commercial use and is located in the commercial
' center of the City.
3. Will be designed, constructed, operated and maintained so to be compatible in appearance
' with the existing or intended character of the general vicinity and will not change the
essential character of that area.
Finding: The proposed development is consistent with the existing and proposed
development in the area. The character of the area is commercial and is the commercial
core of the community. This area provides automotive services for the community.
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4. Will not be hazardous or disturbing to existing or planned neighboring uses.
Finding: The development is located in the central business area and is consistent with
existing and proposed development in the area.
5. Will be served adequately by essential public facilities and services, including streets,
police and fire protection, drainage structures, refuse disposal, water and sewer systems
and schools; or will be served adequately by such facilities and services provided by the
persons or agencies responsible for the establishment of the proposed use.
Finding: This development is located in the commercial center of the city and is served
by adequate urban infrastructure and services.
6. Will not create excessive requirements for public facilities and services and will not be
detrimental to the economic welfare of the community.
Finding: The development of the site as a commercial use has been anticipated and
planned by the city in the design and construction of public improvements. The
commercial development of the site will improve the city's economic welfare as well as
provide for the convenience and comfort of residents.
7. Will not involve uses, activities, processes, materials, equipment and conditions of
operation that will be detrimental to any persons, property or the general welfare because
of excessive production of traffic, noise, smoke, fumes, glare, odors, rodents, or trash.
Finding: With the appropriate controls and conditions, as recommended by staff, the
development of the site will have minimal impacts to persons, property, and the general
welfare of the community. This area has been planned and designed as the commercial
center of the city.
8. Will have vehicular approaches to the property which do not create traffic congestion or
interfere with traffic or surrounding public thoroughfares.
Finding: Access to this property will be provided via West 79th Street. Internal access
between the two car washes is not provided.
9. Will not result in the destruction, loss or damage of solar access, natural, scenic or
historic features of major significance.
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Finding: There are no significant natural, scenic, or historic features present on the site.
10. Will be aesthetically compatible with the area.
Finding: The applicant is proposing a building that is similar in appearance to the
existing self -serve car wash on the site. Staff is recommending the inclusion of a pitched
roof element to bring the site into compliance with the HC -1 district criteria.
11. Will not depreciate surrounding property values.
Finding: This area is planned and zoned for commercial development. Surrounding
property values should be enhanced with the completion of this development.
12. Will meet standards prescribed for certain uses as provided in this article.
Finding: The developer will comply with all requirements of City Code and will comply
with any conditions of the development approved by the city.
PLANNING COMMISSION UPDATE
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on September 6, 1995 to review the proposed
conditional use permit and site plan for the car wash. By a vote of 4 for and 0 against and one
abstention (due to a personal conflict of interest), the Planning Commission voted to recommend
that City Council approve the conditional use permit and site plan for the car wash.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the City Council adopt the following motion:
"The City Council approves conditional use permit 95 -3 to allow two principal buildings on one
lot and site plan 95 -13, prepared by Peter Curtis Architect dated June 28, 1995, and site plan
prepared by William R. Engelhardt Associates dated August, 1995 and stamped received Aug.
25, 1995, for a 1,255 square foot drive through car wash on property zoned Highway Business
district subject to the following conditions:
1. Erosion control fence shall be installed prior to any site grading along the southerly
property line and maintained until all disturbed areas have been revegetated or paved.
2. The drive aisles shall be increased to 16 feet wide face to face and another drive aisle
shall be looped back to the east and north to West 79th Street to improve traffic
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circulation. The applicant shall install "Do Not Enter" signs at the looped drive
(northeast) entrance and to prohibit westbound traffic south of the proposed car wash.
3. The applicant shall utilize the existing 6 -inch water lead from West 79th Street versus
tapping the existing 8 -inch water main in West 79th Street.
4. The applicant shall be responsible for relocation of any landscaping materials along West
79th Street in conflict with the site improvements.
5. The applicant shall apply for separate sign permits for any signage on site except for
traffic circulation sign. Signage shall comply with the city's sign ordinance.
6. The applicant shall use alternate building elevations, sheet A2 Alternate, prepared by
Peter Curtis, stamped received August 25 1995.
7. Two of the red maples shall be relocated to the western side of the property.
8. The developer shall enter into a site development contract with the City and provide the
necessary financial security to guarantee compliance with the terms of approval."
ATTACHMENTS
1. Development Review Application
2. Letter from Gary Brown to Planning Commission, City Council, and City Staff
3. Proposed Building Elevations
4. Alternate Building Elevations
5. Attachment 1, Revised Drive Aisle and Signage Diagram
6. Memo from Steve Kirchman to Bob Generous dated 7/25/95
7. Notice of Public Hearing and Mailing List
8. Letter rescheduling Public Hearing to 8/16/95
9. Letter rescheduling Public Hearing to 9/6/95
10. Planning Commission Minutes of September 6, 1995
11. Site plan.
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
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CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
(612) 937 -1900
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION
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Vacation of ROW /Easements
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Variance
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interim Use Permit
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Wetland Alteration Permit
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Non - conforming Use Permit
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Zoning Appeal
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Planned Unit Development
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Zoning Ordinance Amendment
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Rezoning
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A list of all property owners within 500 feet of the boundaries of the property must
' Included with the application.
Twenty -six full size folded copies of the plans must be submitted.
8'/z" X 11" Reduced copy of transparency for each plan sheet.
* NOTE - When multiple applications are processed, the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application.
«` Escrow will be required for other applications through the development contract
PROJECT NAME
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REASON FOR THIS REQUEST
This application must be completed in full and be typewritten or clearly printed and must be accompanied by all information '
and plans required by applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before filing this application, you should confer with
Planning Department to determine the specific ordinance and procedural requirements appNcable to your application.
This is to certify that I am making application for the described action by the City and that I am responsible for complying '
with all City requirements with regard to this request. This application should be processed in my name and I am the party
whom the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application. I have attached a copy of proof of
ownership (either copy of Owner's Duplicate Certificate of Title, Abstract of Title or purchase agreement), or I am the '
authorized person to make this application and the fee owner has also signed this application.
I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I further
understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any '
authorization to proceed with the study. The documents and information I have submitted are true and correct to the best
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The applicant should contact staff for a copy of the staff report which will be available on Friday prior to the
meeting. If not contacted, a copy of the report will be mailed to the applicant's address.
Application Received on
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wash, which we own and is twenty feet to the west. In
addition, this new building will be the same color as
the Amoco wash that we also operate.
' This site meets all of the city codes and is auto
related along with all the other businesses in this area.
' We will enter and exit off of 79th St. so to eliminate
any additional traffic on Great Plains Blvd.
This area will. be cleaned and maintained by our present
' staff in order to keep all of the facilities spotless.
We will use nothing but biodegradable and environ-
mentally friendly chemicals that are all certified to be so.
In additional this new wash uses less water than the
' existing washes that are now in use.
Thank you v ry much for your consideration.
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MEMORANDUM
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739
TO: Bob Generous, Planner II ,
FROM: Steve A. Kiiuhman, Building Official! ; ci( r
DATE: July 25, 1995
SUBJECT: 95 -3 CUP and 95 -13 SPR (Car Wash, Gary Brown)
I was asked to review the site plan proposal s
JUL 05 1995, CHANHASSEN PLANN
I have no comments or recommendations con
I would like to request that you relay to the
early as possible to discuss commercial build
tamped "CITY OF CHANHASSEN, RECEIVED,
ING DEPT." for the above referenced project.
ceming this application at this time.
developers and designers my desire to meet with them as
ing permit requirements.
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
Wednesday, August 2, 1995
at 7:00 p.m.
City Hall Council Chambers
690 Coulter Drive
Project: Brown's Car Wash
Developer: Gary Brown
Location: 335 West 79th Street
Notice: You are invited to attend a public hearing about a development proposed in your
area. The applicant is requesting a Conditional Use Permit for Multiple Buildings (2) on the
same lot and site plan approval for a 1,255 sq. ft. drive through car . wash on property zoned BH,
Highway Business District and located at 335 West 79th Street (West 79th Street and Great
Plains Blvd.).
What Happens at the Meeting: The purpose of this public hearing is to inform you
about the developer's request and to obtain input from the neighborhood about this project.
During the meeting, the Commission Chair will lead the public hearing through the following
steps:
1. Staff will give an over view of the proposed project.
2. The Developer will present plans on the project.
3. Comments are received from the public.
4. Public hearing is closed and the Commission discusses project. The Commission
will then make a recommendation to the City Council.
Questions or Comments: If you want to see the plans before the meeting, please stop
by City Hall during office hours, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. If you wish
to talk to someone about this project, please contact Bob at 937 -1900, ext. 141. If you choose
to submit written comments, it is helpful to have one copy to the department in advance of the
meeting. Staff will provide copies to the Commission.
Notice of this public hearing has been published in the Chanhassen Villager on July 20, 1995.
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March of St. Huberts
11t7 Great Plains Blvd.
hanhassen, MN 55317
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Valvoline Instant Oil Change
i Main Street E., Suite 1200
lington, KY 40507
ti oomberg Companies
* Box 730
nhassen, MN 55317
11ph Molnau & Ronald Dubbe
356 3 Street West
It conia, MN 55387
ddeus E. Korzenowski
45 Radisson Road
celsior, MN 55331 -9181
Gerald Schlenk, Jean VonBank
and Mary Goetz
225 West 78th Street
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Amoco American Oil Co.
Property Tax Dept.
200 E. Randolph Dr. MC 2408
Chicago, IL 60601 -7125
Michael Sorenson
Rt. 2, Box 187K
Belle Plaine, MN
Al Klingelhutz & Gerald Schlenk
8600 Great Plains Blvd.
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Chanhassen Post #580
P. O. Box 264
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Waterfront Associates
440 Union Place
56011 Excelsior, MN 55331
B. C. Burdick
684 Excelsior Blvd.
Excelsior, MN 55331
Holiday Station Stores
4567 80th Street West
Bloomington, MN 55437
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
' (612) 937 -1900 0 FAX (612) 937 -5739
July 26, 1995
Dear Property Owner:
This letter is to notify you that the following public hearing scheduled for the Planning
Commission on August 2nd has been rescheduled to Wednesday, August 16, 1995, at 7:00
p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers:
Conditional Use Permit for Multiple Buidi gs (2) on the same lot and site plan
approval for a 1,255 sq. ft. drive through cut wash on property zoned BH, Highway
Business District and located at 335 West 79th Street (West 79th Street and Great
Plains Blvd.) Gary Brown.
at 937 -1900 extension 141.
BG:v
CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739
August 11, 1995
Dear Property Owner:
This letter is to notify you that the following public hearing scheduled for the Planning
Commission on August 2nd has been rescheduled to Wednesday, September 6, 1995, at 7:00
p.m. in the City Hall Council Chambers:
Conditional Use Permit for Multiple
approval for a 1,255 sq. ft. drive thr(
Business District and located at 335
Plains Blvd.) Gary Brown.
s (2) on the same lot and site plan
wash on property zoned BH, Highway
Ith Street (West 79th Street and Great
Should you have any questions, please
Sincerely,
Robert Generous, AICP
Planner II
to call me at 937 -1900 extension 141.
BG:v
Planning Commission Meeting - September 6, 1995
perform an inspection of the existing utility lines on site to ensure that they are clean
and operational prior to commencing the site work.
12. Park and trail fees will be paid at time of building permit application.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously.
Vernelle Clayton: It was just interesting to me that you made a bit of history tonight. This is
the last piece of the... development which is all of Chan Estates and all the way up to... The
very last piece is the only piece were we haven't had objections from the neighbors.
Objections were raised everywhere from conversations...
PUBLIC HEARING:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR MULTIPLE BUILDINGS (2) ON THE SAME LOT
AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A 1,255 SO. FT. DRIVE THROUGH CAR WASH ON
PROPERTY ZONED BH, GENERAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND LOCATED AT 335
WEST 79TH STREET (WEST 79TH STREET AND GREAT PLAINS BLVD.), GARY
BROWN.
Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item.
Nutting: Does the applicant or their designee wish to address the commission?
Gary Brown: No, I don't have any problem with it. I don't have any problem with what they
said.
Nutting: Okay. This is a public hearing. May I have a motion to open the public hearing
Conrad moved, Meyer seconded to open the public hewing. The public hewing was opened.
Nutting: Is there anybody who'd wish to address the Planning Commission? Seeing none,
may I have a motion to close the public hearing.
Com-ad moved, Meyer seconded to close the public hewing. The public hewing was closed.
Nutting: Comments. Jeff.
Farmakes: I'm abstaining on this issue.
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Nutting: Okay. For?
Conrad: You don't wash cars?
Farmakes: My daughter works here.
Nutting: Okay. Mike.
Meyer: No, it looks pretty straight forward. I don't have any concerns.
' Nutting: Okay. Ladd.
Conrad: What are the odds that we get two car washes on the same night? Gary, you're late.
Why didn't you come in here a year ago and get a jump on the competition.
Gary Brown: I should have been in a year ago, you're right. Had I know Chanhassen was
going to blow up the way it has...
' Conrad: Yeah, I have no comments. It looks good. Staff report is good. Product's good.
My comment would be the same as before. Recycling water, when water's plentiful, that's
' great. When it's not, it's a problem.
Gary Brown: I figure you'd be happy to know is that the new machine that we're going to
buy is the most water conscience machine made. A lot of it's done by pressure. In other
' words, you have rotating wands. You're pumping about as much air up there as you are
water and they agitate now. Instead of the old style, even like the one I have in the Amoco
now. It takes about 50 -55 gallons a car. The one's like the Wave will be able to do a couple
hundred gallons. This one here will be down to about 30 gallons so for a change they've
gone in the right direction. Instead of using more, they've done a lot more good with less
water. Which makes nice reading because I really hate writing those checks out for two
' grand every month.
Conrad: The reason, just so I can understand the conditional use permit. You can put two
buildings on one lot in this zone through a conditional use permit provided there's one owner?
What's the, what is the rationale? Could there two owners of the two buildings?
' Generous: Conceivably. One owner of the property and... This is from our standpoint it's a
zoning. Even though it was shown as two parcels. Because neither of them by themselves
meet the minimum requirements of the district. So we consider it one lot. And then the
conditional use is just the way the Code is written. I don't always understand that. It permits
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it for residential districts so that you can have a detached garage or a shed or something on
your lot as in some of the agricultural districts. So you could have ... all buildings but for
commercial, you have to go through this process just to put that second building.
Conrad: So we don't know what we're looking for here?
Aanenson: Well I think as Bob indicated, it's more a property owner should be the
underlying owner. Then you may lease two sites but you still want to have control under one
ownership where it may not meet the integrity of the whole district. And lots of times, as in
Market Square, you have out buildings but you still have one underlying development. And
they may have common parking. Share an agreement so individually they might not meet the
standards but holistically, and so somebody doesn't try to split one off where the integrity of
the whole, or all the standards aren't there. So that's why we attach conditions to make sure
that they don't break off or whatever.
Conrad: No more questions.
Nutting: Bob.
Skubic: No comments.
Nutting: Okay. I have no comments either. These two are both pretty straight forward. I
May I have a motion?
Meyer: I'll make a motion. I'll make a motion that the Planning Commission recommend
that the City Council approve Conditional Use Permit #95 -3 to allow two principal buildings
on one lot and Site Plan #95 -13, prepared by Peter Curtis Architect dated June 28, 1995, and
site plan prepared by William R. Engelhardt Associates dated August, 1995 and stamped
received August 25, 1995, for a 1,255 square foot drive through car wash on property zoned
Highway Business District, subject to conditions 1 through 8.
Conrad: And I second that.
Nutting: Motion's been made and seconded. Is there any discussion?
Meyer moved, Conrad seconded that the Planning Commission recommend that the City
Council approve Conditional Use Permit 995 -3 to allow two principal buildings on one lot
and Site Plan 995 -13, prepared by Peter Curtis Architect dated June 28, 1995, and site plan
prepared by William & Engelhardt Associates dated August, 1995 and stamped received
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' August 25, 1995, for a 1,255 square foot drive through car wash on property zoned Highway
Business District, subject to following conditions:
1. Erosion control fence shall be installed prior to any site grading along the southerly
property line and maintained until all disturbed areas have been revegetated or paved.
2. The drive aisles shall be increased to 16 feet wide face to face and another drive aisle
shall be looped back to the east and north to West 79th Street to improve traffic
circulation. The applicant shall install "Do Not Enter" signs at the looped drive
' (northeast) entrance and to prohibit westbound traffic south of the proposed car wash.
3. The applicant shall utilize the existing 6 inch water lead from West 79th Street versus
tapping the existing 8 inch water main in West 79th Street.
4. The applicant shall be responsible for relocation of any landscaping materials along
West 79th Street in conflict with the site improvements.
5. The applicant shall apply for separate sign permits for any signage on site except for
traffic circulation sign. Signage shall comply with the city's sign ordinance.
6. The applicant shall use alternate building elevations, sheet A2 Alternate, prepared by
Peter Curtis, stamped Received Aug 25, 1995.
1 7. Two of the red maples shall be relocated to the western side of the property.
8. The developer shall enter into a site development contract with the City and provide the
necessary financial security to guarantee compliance with the terms of approval.
All voted in favor, except Jeff Farmakes who abstained, and the motion carried.
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