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CITY OF 3•
CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 0 CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739
TO: Don Ashworth, City Manager
FROM: Kate Aanenson, Planning Director
Bob Generous, Planner II
DATE: April 19, 1994
SUBJ: Code Amendment for Photocomposite Images for Subdivisions and Site Plans
Background
The City Council and Planning Commission requested that staff prepare a code amendment
for the requirement of photo imaging. This will be a requirement for subdivisions as well as
site plans. The amendment will be placed in two sections of the City Code. The photo
imaging should provide the level of detail that was provided with the photos of the ISTEA
pedestrian bridge. These photos enhanced the city's ability to analyze not only the size and
scale of the bridge, but also the visual presence of the bridge and its impact on surrounding
development.
The City Council held a first reading on April 11, 1994. The ordinance was tabled in order
to permit staff to provide additional information to Council. Specifically, Council requested
that staff address the following issues: timing, cost, list of service providers, and criteria to
be used to determine when this would be required as part of a submittal. Additionally, staff
has revised the ordinance to eliminate the requirement for a computer generated image to
permit other forms of photocomposite imaging.
Purpose
Photocomposite imaging or computer aided graphics are a means for the city to evaluate the
impacts of a proposed development on the environment, the surrounding properties, and the
district in which the development is proposed. The intent of this ordinance is to permit the
city to have an accurate visual representation of a proposal incorporating scaled elevations,
realistic landscaping, and final grades. Such images will permit the city to more accurately
evaluate a proposal's compatibility and impact to its surroundings.
MEMORANDUM
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Don Ashworth, City Manager
April 19, 1994
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Not every subdivision or site plan would be required to submit a photocomposite image, e.g.
an addition to an industrial building that is large enough to require site plan approval (10%
or greater expansion), but where the addition may be very straight forward or a single - family
subdivision that is proposed on an existing corn field with minimal grading. For this reason,
the amendment is proposed in the supplementary information section of the subdivision
requirements. Further, the code states that the city may waive any of the data requirements
due to the limited size and nature of a project. Another option that might be considered is
site elevation. The intent of the graphic is to provide information as to how the development
will impact the surrounding uses.
Issues
Criteria: When will it be used?
Project scale - commercial, industrial, or office site plans; multi- family or
commercial /industrial subdivisions where a final product (i.e. buildings) are being
proposed; where a project potentially will have a significant visual impact on
surrounding developments or the district in which it is located; where there will be
significant grade changes within a development or to adjacent properties.
Location: when a project abuts less intensive land uses, is located adjacent to a
critical environmental corridor, requires extensive grade changes, or is located in an
area considered a focal point or highly visible location within the city.
Timing: Who will request this information?
Staff anticipates that these photocomposite images would be required as part of a
submittal package after the developer has discussed the project with staff and the
developer reasonably believes that their product is sufficiently complete to come in for
final approval, i.e. at preliminary plat and as part of a site plan package. The Planning
Commission or the City Council could also request photocomposite images as a part
of their review process.
Staff estimates that this requirement will cost from $150 to tens of thousands of
dollars depending on the complexity, size, level of resolution, and number of
perspectives required. When have requested some quotes for hypothetical
developments to get an example of the costs. (See attachment - -An additional bid will
hopefully be available Monday evening).
Don Ashworth, City Manager
April 19, 1994
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Service Providers: '
Staff is performing a telephone survey to get an idea of companies that can provide
this service. (See attachment)
Planning Commission Update
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on Wednesday, March 16, 1994 regarding
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the proposed ordinance. The Commission voted unanimously to recommend approval of the
code amendment to City Council. The Commission believes that staff will use their best
judgement in determining whether or not photocomposite images will be required as part of a
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development proposal. Should the Commission require additional information, they would
also be able to request a photocomposite image of development.
Recommendation
Staff recommends that the City Council approve the first reading of the code amendment to
require photocomposite images for subdivisions and site plans as shown in the attached
amendment and that a second reading of the code amendment be scheduled for May 9, 1954.
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Attachments
1. Code amendment
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2. Information from Macromedia Technologies
3. Minutes of the Planning Commission dated 3/16/94
4. Minutes of the City Council dated 4/11/94
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5. Letter of Transmittal from Terry M. Forbord dated 4/2/94
6. Note from Charlie James
7. Letter from James E. Jasper dated 4/8/94
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8. Subdivision and Site Plan Ordinance
9. Phone survey of costs and service providers
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
ORDINANCE NO.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTERS 18 AND 20 OF THE
' CHANHASSEN CITY CODE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE,
CONCERNING SUBDIVISION DATA REQUIREMENTS
AND SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS SITE AND BUILDING PLANS
THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CHANHASSEN ORDAINS:
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Section 1 . Section 18 -40 (4) of Chapter 18 Subdivision, Division 2. Platting
Procedures of the Chanhassen City Code is amended to add subsection
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(4) Supplementary information:
M. 6-o'lUputer Nn\P-?aj6d photocomposite images, artistic renderings, or site
elevations which depict the visual impact of the propos evelopment's
- - - -- Zi sign, landscaping, street layout, signage, pedestrian ways, lighting, buildings,
or other details that affect land use within the city shall be submitted. Such
images and renderings shall be from key vantage points and provide an
undistorted perspective of the proposed development from abutting properties,
less intensive land uses, and /or from entryway locations. Appropriate levels of
resolution for the visualization shall be used from flat shading for massing
studies and preliminary design to photorealistic imaging for final design.
Section 2. Section 20 -109 of Chapter 20 Zoning, Division 6. Site Plan Review of
the Chanhassen City Code is amended to add subsection, o:
Sec. 20 -109. Applications. Subsection (5) Site and Building Plan:
C&ppAler gi; �(f W photocomposite images,_ renderings, or site
elevatio which depict the visual impact of the proposed development's
design, landscaping, street layout, signage, pedestrian ways, lighting, buildings,
or other details that affect land use within the city shall be submitted. Such
images and renderings shall be from key vantage points and provide an
undistorted perspective of the proposed development from abutting properties,
less intensive land uses, and /or from entryway locations. Photorealistic
imaging or renderings are the appropriate level of resolution.
Section 3 . This ordinance shall be effective immediately following its passage and
publication.
PASSED AND ADOPTED this day of , 1994, by the City
Council of the City of Chanhassen.
ATTEST:
Don Ashworth, Clerk/Manager
Donald J. Chmiel, Mayor
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Presentation Formats
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Photocomposits Images
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photograph of a proposed site. We normally refer to these as "Photorealistic Images"
since it is practically impossible to tell that the structure or development in the
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Animations
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certain perspectives that can only be achieved using this technique. Other possible
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resolution. These options can be applied to fill the needs of the persons who are
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Flat Shading A level of resolution that utilizes basic colors to form the shape of a
proposed structure. There is no texture on the computer model.
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massing studies, preliminary designs, or any time a detailed
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staff report. I would like to see the staff evaluate the drainage patterns within the
Timberwood Estates neighborhood to make sure that the patterns of drainage are maintained
and specifically in the vicinity of Lots 4 thru 12. And I'd also like to add that the '
consideration for the sanitary sewer stub for Timberwood Estates, the siting of that stub
minimize topography disruption and tree loss to the extent possible.
Scott: Do you guys want to take a 5 minute break before we do the next? ,
(The Planning Commission took a short break at this point in the meeting.) '
PUBLIC HEARING:
AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CODE REGARDING A REQUIREMENT TO SUBMIT
COMPUTER AIDED GRAPHICS OR MODELS FOR SITE PLAN REVIEWS AND
SUBDIVISIONS.
Public Present:
Name Address '
Vemelle Clayton 425 Santa Fe Circle '
Kate Aanenson presented the staff report on this item.
Scott: Any questions or comments. '
Mancino: Is this a public hearing? I
Scott: It will be. I don't know, I just have one comment. In the section 1(4) where you
talked, item number (m) where you talk about computer generated photocomposite images or '
artistic renderings. I personally would like to see computer generated photocomposite images
only and the reason, I was quite struck by the pedestrian bridge. I mean that, I think as a
Planning Commission we were able to make some decisions based upon some fairly minute
differences I think in the pylon size and different materials and then also they were able to do
a time progression and say well here's what it's going to look like now and here's what it's
going to look like in x number of years. From an artistic rendering standpoint, I don't see '
that as being as valuable. So I would rather not have both. The question does come in
though, do you have an idea of what this costs somebody to do a photocomposite versus an
artistic rendering?
Generous: I don't know the artistic rendering. Now they gave me some examples of the
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' costs for the photocompositioning ... $3,000.00 for the standard site. The example he used was
the high bridge in St. Paul which was a $35 million to $55 million project depending on their
final design. And they said that the final cost was, I believe it was $35,000.00 or $40,000.00.
Scott: Yeah, because that's my concern is if somebody's got a quarter of a million dollars in
a lot and then they're going to be building a $20.00 a square foot building, I'm just trying to
figure out if there's a way to give us the scale without having.
Aanenson: As you recall when we looked at the hotel project, what they did, I'm sorry.
What they did is take actual photographs and tried to superimpose it. I think that helped you
to give a bit of perspective from Highway 5 and West 78th.
Scott: That worked really well.
Aanenson: Right, and I think that's what we're talking about in this artistic rendering.
Scott: So it's a photographic process but not just somebody drawing something?
Aanenson: Right.
Ledvina: Question. When you say artistic rendering, do you mean a computer artistic
rendering or is that what you're requiring though? I mean can somebody sketch it out? Is
that adequate?
Scott: That, at least in my mind, that doesn't really give an appropriate view or doesn't give
me a good idea.
Mancino: Well they can change scale all the time. When it's a hand drawn artistic
rendering, a lot of times they'll get the building and the trees out of scale you know with
each other or they'll give a funny perspective that isn't real realistic and I think that that's the
problem with the. Yeah, they do whatever they want to do.
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Scott: I like the idea of if there's some existing, I mean I don't expect someone to spend
$3,000.00 on something but I think it is important, if they can take an existing photograph
and use that as the scale point and then do something with it. So I don't know what the
language is. Maybe photocomposite image. I mean that to me says it's a couple of
photographs stuck together. It doesn't have to be anything extremely expensive, unless
someone that has a very large scale development feels they can invest the money but anyway.
Farmakes: You're going to drive the cost up of demanding a building that's not built as a
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photocomposite where it becomes an illustration... versus if they scan in an elevation drawing
and then drop in some color and then show the signage. They can do that like a photo shop
or something relatively inexpensively. If they have to render the building in 3 dimensional
form, it gets to be fairly expensive.
Scott: What's the middle ground that gives us what we want but doesn't cost? I
Generous: Well it depends on the resolution you ask for too. John was telling me that if you
go with a flat shaving, it's less expensive than going to the photo realistic images.
Farmakes: The memory capabilities get very high and then you get into work station type
breaks where you have a much more sophisticated computer to hold a lot of memory from an
illustration. Some of them might be 100 megabytes just for an illustration. So it's a lot of
more expensive equipment.
Scott: What language do we want? '
Farmakes: Well aren't we interpreting, Kate can you go over what the benefit again is '
supposed to be here? If we're looking at photocomposites, we're looking at the relationship
of the building to existing buildings? We're looking at possible signage or landscaping. That ,
sort of thing. When we're looking at signage or whatever, I think that certainly working from
a working elevation and seeing the maximum development is sufficient. I don't know if it
needs to be a photo rendering or that cost when you're dealing with PUD's where there's '
substantial amount of money and it's a large scale development. This is fairly small
percentage.
Mancino: Yeah, I was going to say. It might have to do with cost of the project and having '
staff make that decision because we couldn't have visualized the bridge. I mean if somebody
explained it in verbiage, here's the difference between the you know, the bridge. We couldn't '
visualize that and the picture obviously.
Aanenson: I think that kind of language, what Bob has put in there, the appropriate levels of '
resolution for the visualization. I mean that's something we're going to have to develop you
know as we go through this process. Say that this project demands this level of detail and
this project—but we want to have something in there where if we do need it to make a good
decision, that we can ask for it.
Farmakes: So the criteria then would be that if you thought it was necessary, then you could
ask the developer for that expense?
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Aanenson: Right. Because we don't have it in there right now. Right now we can't ask for
it.
' Mancino: That makes sense. That makes sense.
Ledvina: So the terminology, appropriate levels of resolution, that's really your discretion.
Aanenson: Well if it comes to you, you could say we can't tell the details and we're going
' to have...
Generous: Also you should know that once they have the first one done, the next levels are
I less expensive. He was giving me like $800.00 for a different angle or picture...
Ledvina: A question. Now does this apply to all subdivisions that will come through?
Aanenson: No, that's what I'm saying. We'll have them to do in subdivisions and sign
plans.
' Ledvina: But what do we have in front of us? Is this.
Aanenson: You're amending two sections of the code.
' Generous: 18 -40 is the subdivision section and 20 -109 is the site plan review.
Ledvina: So you said subdivisions so this is for subdivisions, just like what we, like a
residential subdivision.
' Aanenson: Or maybe along Highway 5 ... some instances where you may want to...
Ledvina: I see that it's a very powerful tool for analysis and I really like what we did with
the pedestrian bridge. I couldn't agree with you more on that but for a residential
subdivision, I'm having a hard time seeing the application.
Mancino: What about an apartment building?
Aanenson: You don't have to have it. This is something if you feel like it's necessary,
' you've got the language in there. Again, we're going to have to on a case by case basis, and
it may be something that...a multi- family project.
Generous: He also said they could do like a video so if you have a subdivision it would be
like coming into the entrance on the street. Going up the street seeing the various housing
types placed in there.
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Farmakes: A walk thru program. '
Generous: Yeah, exactly. '
Mancino: So it gives us the option.
Aanenson: What it does is ives you the option.
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Scott: The option to ask for it. Okay. ,
Ledvina: I guess I would like to see that clarified. I don't think that ..appropriate level of ,
resolution. Another question though. Section 20 -109. That's the site plan review?
Aanenson: Yes. I
Ledvina: Okay. I think it's certainly appropriate there. I don't know, I think it has a lot of
application there but I'm not so sure, certain as it relates to subdivisions, how important it I
might be.
Nutting: But they're also not making it mandatory. I
Ledvina: Yeah. How can we change that language to make that clearer? Appropriate levels
of resolution.
Scott: Appropriate levels of resolution as determined by City planning staff.
Ledvina: Can you throw that in there?
Scott: So it's clear as to who makes that? '
Aanenson: Well this is part of a laundry list that you look at. When you come in for an
application to build a subdivision, we give you a checklist, these are the things you need to '
provide. And so these fall into that checklist. Okay so if someone was coming in and we'd
say well this obviously, you probably wouldn't need this on this subdivision or take a site
plan, this may or may not. It's one of those things you could check...
Nutting: You want to say it's a requirement but you have the flexibility to say you don't
need it.
Generous: Yeah, you're too small and we don't really... '
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Aanenson: Or when it comes to you and ... and you feel like you need it, then we've got a
' method to say, we're not going to approve it until we get a visualization.
Scott: Yeah but I wouldn't see us getting to that point until the development is going ahead
but then we're getting down to maybe some of the finer details. Okay. Good. Are we done
with the discussion with the staff? This is a public hearing. Is there anyone here who would
like to speak on behalf of the public hearing? Yes. Please identify yourself.
Vemelle Clayton: I'm Vernelle Clayton and I live at 422 Santa Fe Circle ... just have some
questions. We haven't had much of a chance to look at the report and we had some of the
same questions that you did. Particularly did it really mean that you could have a rendering
such as we used on the motel, and apparently it does. And I think that's important. The
process is not incredibly well developed yet for computer visualization. It's sort of going
through the process, as I understand. The computers and calculators and everything... probably
in a couple years everybody will have it but right now not too many people do. And I have,
ever since I worked in State government, always felt that it was somewhat an uncomfortable
position for any unit of government to find themselves in to be requiring something that is
only provided by a few. And so one of the questions that we had was, would like to have
answered too I guess before we know whether we're even concerned about this is, how many
' people really can provide this service? And that is kind of ... and that then, let me go back.
How many people can provide it at the level that you want? There are a lot of people that
can provide a certain amount of...go in and assume that you're requiring a whole lot. So I
guess that would be something that should be clarified so there aren't any misunderstandings.
The other thing is that sometimes I think what we did with the motel, when we took a picture
' and then Tim Howell, as you may recall, painted in what we proposed to build, could be done
by somebody like Tim Howell but the others couldn't. I like to be able to see folks like Tim
Howell be able to ... business of being an architect, one of the few remaining businesses where
' you don't have to be a...if you don't want to. So I mean—but basically we had a couple
questions like that. When would it be applied? There are some small projects that really
couldn't afford it. And whatever you ask these folks to do, they pass it on to the price of the
home or the price of the product that's sold in the commercial buildings so I think you need
to think about that. I believe that's all I had. But maybe if you have the answers to those
questions and you know that ...that's fine but we didn't have the answers and we were
wondering, since we find ourselves appearing before you from time to time with various
projects but.
' Scott: Maybe the intent, especially on the, like an addition to an existing structure. In my
mind that's just fine. We just want to see how is it going to look. How's it going to play
out and so forth. From a signage standpoint, an elevation drawing, you know 2 dimensional
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is fine but I think when we start getting into something like, and I don't know if you had a
chance to see the computer generated piece that they did for the pedestrian bridge but we
were asked to make some decisions that I don't think we really could have made.
Vemelle Clayton: I think that's perfectly reasonable and that's a very ambitious project—so
it's a very small percentage of the total cost. '
Scott: So that's why we want to make sure that it's optional and it's only used in case of a
tie or if you will, but just something where we feel we need it or city staff needs it. But
we're not going to be requiring this willy nilly and I think that was one of our concerns. It's
like what does this stuff cost? But no, your points are well taken.
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planning staff but the City Planner. I've never read anything from the staff on their own...
reports signed off by the planners. I think it would be the city planner that would be making i
the decisions. I would think she'd be more comfortable with some sort of a guideline—and I
would think you would be in the future, should you hire some ... if she decides to go to South '
America or something. It's easy to be comfortable with the people you know and their
judgment. You're comfortable and so am I with Kate's judgment but this is a law on the
books that doesn't always, I've been around here a whole lot longer than probably any of you
and some of the things that we all thought we just a given you know 5 or 10 years ago,
people don't even remember now. And some of the things that happened 20 years ago, it's
so easy to have a good idea while you're doing it and then another group of people interprets '
it differently.
Scott: I think someone at the planner level would be appropriate. I don't know if we need to
have the Planning Director but you know city, when you talk about planning staff, I'm not
thinking of an administrative individual. I'm thinking of someone who's business it is to plan
and to make decisions of that thing so we need to specify planner level I and H on up or
whatever but we're talking about somebody who's in the business of planning can make that
decision. Are there any more comments from the public for the public hearing? May I have,
seeing none, may I have a motion to close the public hearing? '
Mancino moved, Farmakes seconded to close the public hearing. All voted in favor and
the motion carried. The public hearing was closed.
Scott: Matt.
Ledvina: Well, I have a few questions. I guess one other thing that I wanted to know was,
it says and provide a perspective. This is in the middle of the paragraph. And provide a
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t perspective of the proposed development from abutting properties. Outlying properties? All
sides? At the property line?
Aanenson: We do that right now when we ask for perspectives. We make the judgment call
on what we feel is the most important... maybe on a small project, it's ... maybe on one project
' it's so sensitive that you need a perspective from all. So really.
Ledvina: Sure. Okay, so it's your discretion on that. That's fine but it's just, it begs to
' question I guess.
Aanenson: Maybe there's a...
Ledvina: Sure, I'm okay with that.
Aanenson: There's just so many variables with each project. I guess I don't want to tie it
down and then leave something out.
Ledvina: Okay. Well I think things do change with time and I can see 5 years from now
people looking at this ordinance saying geez, that was in the Stone Age. The Jurassic type of
things... But we have to make a stab at it and I guess, as I said before, it is a powerful tool
and I would support the passage of this ordinance.
Scott: Okay. Ron.
Nutting: I guess I also would support it. I guess the issue is coming down to discretion to
apply on a case by case basis to the level that's appropriate and I guess the only question I
have is, the language as it sits, appropriate levels of resolution for the visualization shall be
used from flat shading etc. Does that leave appropriate open to interpretation from the
applicant side as opposed to planning side? And do you want to say as determined by so my
comment is, if we want to refine that. Otherwise I'm in favor of approving this.
Scott: Okay, Nancy.
Mancino: I'm in support of approving this as is. The only words I would change is artistic
renderings and I don't know what we came up with. And I don't know what the right jargon
is. Jeff, what was the right, you came up with something.
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Mancino: Did someone write it down?
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Generous: I wrote photocomposite but I don't know. 1
Mancino: Well I think that Joe you said just leave out artistic renderings and say '
photocomposite images.
Farmakes: Because the photocomposite that's where you took two photos together into a
single image. A rendering, a 3 dimensional rendering is just that. It's a rendering. A
drawing in CAD where you do.
Mancino: Oh a computer generated rendering. '
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Farmakes: Correct. Which is far more elaborate and far more costly. You can use photo,
canned photo or library photo textures like for instance... have a lot of different kinds of brick.
And you can design a dimensional drawing and the computer will apply it dimensionally. So
again it's the amount of, that's far more elaborate and time consuming and expensive than
scanning an elevation drawing and dropping in some color in the background.
Scott: Or taking a photograph of the existing area and then superimposing either a line '
drawing or a photograph.
Farmakes: That's easy.
Scott: Yeah, and that may be appropriate in those instances.
Farmakes: That's an easy issue. Two scans and you put them right together. That's easy.
Mancino: Well then let's leave it up to the discretion of '
Ledvina: I'm comfortable with artistic rendering... ,
Mancino: Then we'll leave artistic rendering.
Ledvina: ...but again, I'm sensitive to. '
Mancino: Cost. I
Ledvina: Well cost, yeah. And narrowing the realm of possibility and also the vendors that
can provide the service. I think that's important. I
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Mancino: Then let's leave both in and so either are an option. Whatever is appropriate for
the particular site.
Scott: As determined by.
' Farmakes: And I would add the verbiage of provide an undistorted perspective of the
proposed development.
' Mancino: Where would you put that?
Farmakes: Well you were talking about distortion of perspective which can be used to create
' a distortion of scale so the purpose of comparison, you would want like a normal lens. A
view of the surrounding area.
Ledvina: Depict the undistorted visual impact. Whatever.
Farmakes: My comments on this are that the city staff should have discretion because the
negotiation and development takes place prior to us seeing the staff report and that's therein
where the preparation of presentation takes place. Before we see it. For us to set up a
criteria, again you get into the problem of trying to come up with a criteria that is applicable
to every type of development. And as we've seen with the sign ordinance type situation, it's
a very complicated process and I would go with the judgment of city staff on this and not
hinder the, as to individuals changing on city staff, I don't think that that makes any
difference. An ordinance is an ordinance and whoever is in the city staff at the time I believe
will, it's their job to project whatever the city ordinances are through their interpretation so
time marches on and I'm sure we may get other people here but I wouldn't expect that they
would go outside the realm of what the current ordinance is and if it needs to be changed, it
will be changed. We do it all the time as our needs arise.
Aanenson: Or as technology changes.
Mancino: Jeff, you're limiting it just to staff. I mean if it got to City Council and somebody
on City Council said you know, you guys I really think we should see a photo image
composite, I mean.
Aanenson: It's not limited to staff. All we're saying is this is a requirement. If we don't
require it, what we're saying is it could be a requirement. Okay what we've done by not,
1 everybody... when a developer comes in they'll say, can you hand us a checklist to see what
we need to do. We can say, we probably don't think that this project requires ... so all it is is
it's on the checklist. Is it appropriate? You may be required to put them on notice...
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Aanenson: It goes to Council. I
LANDSCAPING APPROVAL FOR MINNEWASHTA LANDINGS AND LOCATED AT
THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY 7 AND I
MINNEWASHTA PARKWAY.
Kate Aanenson presented the staff report on this item. I
Scott: Any questions for staff or comments?
Mancino: A couple questions. Kate, where are you, and I'm sorry if I missed it when you
gave the report and you talked about the conservation easement. You're going to take that
directly to the City Council? '
Aanenson: That would be part of the conditions. You had asked that's one of the things we
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Scott: Okay. Well I support that code amendment and can I have a motion please?
Mancino: I move that, oh I'm going to need your help on this. I move that we approve the
code amendment to require computer generated images for subdivisions and site plans as
shown in the attached amendment, attachment. Is that what I want to say? With the addition
of provide, you're wanting to provide an undistorted perspective.
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Farmakes: Provides an undistorted perspective of the proposed development.
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Mancino: Thank Y ou.
Scott: Is there a second?
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Nutting: Second.
' seconded that we accept Scott: It's been moved and sec t the code amendment as amended. Is p
there any discussion?
Mancino moved, Nutting seconded that the Planning Commission recommend approval
of Code Amendment for Computer Generated Images for Subdivisions and Site Plans
amended to include a statement that it provides an undistorted perspective of the
proposed development. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously.
Scott: Does this have a life after us now?
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Aanenson: It goes to Council. I
LANDSCAPING APPROVAL FOR MINNEWASHTA LANDINGS AND LOCATED AT
THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY 7 AND I
MINNEWASHTA PARKWAY.
Kate Aanenson presented the staff report on this item. I
Scott: Any questions for staff or comments?
Mancino: A couple questions. Kate, where are you, and I'm sorry if I missed it when you
gave the report and you talked about the conservation easement. You're going to take that
directly to the City Council? '
Aanenson: That would be part of the conditions. You had asked that's one of the things we
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Re: Proposed ordinance - Photo imaging for subdivisions and
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Mr. Mayor:
We have been advised that the council intends to consider
adopting an ordinance that would require photo imaging for all
proposed subdivisions and site plans at its scheduled meeting,
Monday, April 11.
1 We wish to register our opposition to this proposal. While it
may provide a tool by which the city can more easily review a
proposed project, we question whether the substantial additional
cost that would be incurred, and thus passed on to the customer,
is justified. Countless projects have been successfully reviewed
without the benefit of this technology. Chanhassen has qualified
staff who are trained to review projects for the benefit of the
planning commission and council. We think this is adequate.
We urge the council not to adopt this ordinance.
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(2) Refer the preliminary plat to the planning commission or appropriate city staff,
officers or departments for further investigation; or
(3) Disapprove the preliminary plat. If the plat is not approved, the city council shall
state the reasons for denial on the record.
(f) The findings necessary for city council approval of the preliminary plat and the final
plat shall be as follows:
(1) The proposed subdivision is consistent with the zoning ordinance;
(2) The proposed subdivision is consistent with all applicable city, county and regional
plans including but not limited to the city's comprehensive plan;
(3) The physical characteristics of the site, including but not limited to topography, soils,
vegetation, susceptibility to erosion and siltation, susceptibility to flooding, and
storm water drainage are suitable for the proposed development;
(4) The proposed subdivision makes adequate provision for water supply, storm drain-
age, sewage disposal, streets, erosion control and all other improvements required by
this chapter;
(5) The proposed subdivision will not cause environmental damage;
(6) The proposed subdivision will not conflict with easements of record.
(7) The proposed subdivision is not premature. A subdivision is premature if any of the
following exists:
a. Lack of adequate storm water drainage.
b. Lack of adequate roads.
c. Lack of adequate sanitary sewer systems.
d. Lack of adequate off site public improvements or support systems.
(g) The city shall notify the applicant of the city council's action, stating the conditions of
approval or reasons for disapproval.
(h) An applicant may at his own risk, apply to process the preliminary and final plats
simultaneously.
(Ord. No. 33•D, § 4.1, 2- 25 -85) ,
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Sec. 1840. Same —Data required.
Unless waived by the city because of the limited size and nature of the proposal, the
l following shall be furnished with a preliminary plat:
(1) Identification and description;
a. Proposed name of subdivision, which shall not duplicate or be similar in pronun.
ciation or spelling to the name of any other plat in the county.
b. Legal description.
c. Names and addresses of the record owner, subdivider, land surveyor, engineer,
designer of the plat, and any agent having control of the land.
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d.
Graphic scale not less than one (1) inch to one hundred (100) feet.
e.
North arrow.
f.
Key map including area within one (1) mile radius of plat.
g.
Date of preparation.
(2) Existing conditions:
a.
Boundary lines of proposed subdivision.
b.
Existing zoning classifications for land within and abutting the subdivision.
c.
Acreage and lot dimensions.
d.
Location, right -of -way width, and names of existing or platted streets; locations
of parks, buildings and structures, railroad right -of -way, easements, section lines
and corporate boundaries within the proposed subdivision and to a distance one
hundred fifty (150) feet beyond.
e.
Boundary lines of adjoining platted or subdivided land, within one hundred fifty
(150) feet, identified by name and ownership including all contiguous land owned
or controlled by the subdivider.
f.
Topographic data within the property to be subdivided and one hundred (100)
feet beyond the property boundary, showing contours as follows: two -foot inter-
vals where slope is seven (7) percent or less; five -foot intervals where slope is
from seven (7) to fifteen (15) percent; ten -foot intervals where slope is greater
than fifteen (15) percent. All areas of the subdivision to be platted with a slope
greater than twenty -five (25) percent must be clearly indicated. However, on
undevelopable sections or larger acre lots topographic data may be reduced to
significant physical characteristics, such as top and toe of slope, if in the opinion
of the city the area is viewed as unsuitable for future subdivision. Location and
elevations of on -site and abutting water courses, lakes, wetlands, rivers, streams,
and marshes at date of survey and their ordinary high water mark plus approx-
imate high and low water elevations shall also be shown. Where the subdivision
borders a lake, river or stream, a meander line shall be established at an
elevation two (2) feet above the recorded high water elevation of the lake, river or
stream. Flood plain areas, location of wooded areas, rocky outcrops, power trans-
mission poles and lines and other significant physical features shall also be
shown.
g.
Location, size and approximate grade of proposed public sewer and water mains.
If public sewer and water are not available the developer shall provide site
evaluation data required by "Minnesota Rules Chapter 7080 Individual Sewage
Treatment Systems Standards" to determine the suitability of the site for indi-
vidual sewage systems. The following data is required for review:
1. Location of two (2) drainfield sites.
2. Two (2) soil borings on each drainfield site for a total of four (4) soil borings
per lot.
3. No percolation tests are required for slopes between zero and twelve (12)
(
percent. One (1) percolation test per drainfield site where the land slope is
between 13 and 25 percent.
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Areas where the land slope exceeds twenty -five (25) percent shall not be consid-
ered as a potential soil treatment unit site. The depth of the percolation test
should be determined in the field by the site evaluator.
h. An accurate soil report indicating soil conditions, permeability and slope.
i. Utilities on or adjacent to the property, including location, size and invert eleva-
tion of public sanitary and storm sewers, catch basins and manholes; location and
size of water mains and hydrants; location of gas mains, high pressure lines, fire
hydrants, electric and telephone lines, and street lights. The direction, distance
to, and size of such facilities shall be indicated.
j. Location of any wetlands.
(3) Proposed design features:
a. Layout of proposed streets showing the proposed names, the right -of -way widths,
centerline gradients and typical cross sections. Street names shall be assigned or
approved by the city.
b. Location and width of proposed pedestrian ways and utility easements.
c. Lot sizes, layout, numbers and preliminary dimensions of lots and blocks.
d. Minimum building setback lines as required by the zoning ordinance.
e. Areas other than streets, alleys, pedestrians ways and utility easements, in-
tended to be dedicated or reserved for public use, including the size of such areas.
f. Location, size and approximate grade of proposed public sewer and water mains.
If public sewer and water area not available the developer shall provide site
evaluation data required by Minnesota Pollution Control Agency Individual
Sewage Treatment Standards (WPC 409) to determine the suitability of the site
for individual sewage systems. References shall be made to "Soil Survey: Carver
(or Hennepin) County, Minnesota," U.S. Department of Agriculture, Soil Con -
servation Service, and any other available sources. The data required shall be
determined by the city.
g. If the preliminary plat is a rearrangement of a recorded plat, the lot and block
arrangement of the original plat, its original name, and all revised or vacated
right -of -ways and easements shall be shown by dotted or dashed line.
(4) Supplementary information:
a. Statement of the proposed use of lots stating type of buildings with number of
proposed dwelling units or type of business or industry to reveal the effect of the
proposed development on traffic, fire hazards, and density of population.
b. Any proposed protective covenants.
c. A drainage plan for the area indicating the. direction and rate of natural storm
water runoff and those unaltered areas where storm water collects and perco.
lates into the ground. A proposed drainage plan for the developed site indicating
the direction and rate of runoff and those areas where storm water win collect
and percolate into the ground shall also be included.
d. A proposed finished grading plan shown at contour intervals appropriate to the
topography or spot elevations indicating the relationship of proposed changes to
existing topography and remaining features.
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Sec. 1841. Final plat — Generally.
(a) Unless otherwise provided in the development contract for phased developments,
within one (1) year after the date of the city council approval of the preliminary plat, the
subdivider shall file an application for approval of the final plat. In addition to the application
the subdivider shall submit:
1 (1 ) Copies of the plat in such quantities as is required by the city;
(2) Two (2) mylar copies of the plat;
(3) One (1) two hundred (200) scale copy of the plat.
If the final plat application is not filed within this period, the preliminary plat will be
considered void unless for good cause shown an extension is requested in writing by the
subdivider and granted by the city council. The application for final plat approval shall be
filed at least fourteen (14) days prior to the meeting of the city council at which action is
desired.
f (b) The final plat shall conform to the requirements of this chapter and to all conditions
set forth in the approval of the preliminary plat as modified during final plat approval.
(c) The city council shall review the final plat and shall approve or disapprove it within
sixty (60) days of receipt of the completed application.
(d) No final plat shall be approved by the city council until the plat is in a form acceptable
for recording with the county, the proper filing fees have been paid to the city, a development
contract has been signed, appropriate security has been furnished, and no other payments to
the city related to the development are outstanding.
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e. If any zoning changes are contemplated, the proposed zoning plan for the areas.
f. Where the subdivider owns property adjacent to that proposed for the subdivi.
sion, a general development plan of the remaining property depicting the possi-
ble
relationships between the proposed subdivision and the future subdivision.
The plan shall address the overall land use, traffic circulation, utility easement
configurations, and general lot layouts.
g. A soil erosion and sediment control plan. The plan shall include a timing sched.
ule and sequence of operation indicating the anticipated starting and completion
dates of the particular development segment and the estimated time of exposure
of each area prior to completion of effective erosion and sediment control mea-
sures. Gradients of waterways, design of velocity and erosion control measures,
and landscaping of the erosion and sediment control system shall also be shown.
h. A vegetation preservation and
protection plan to provide stabilization of erosion
or sediment - producing areas.
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i. Required variances.
j. Water distribution system.
k. Proposals for street lighting, curb and gutters, sidewalks and boulevard improvements.
1. Such other information as may be requested by the city.
(Ord. No 33 -D, § 59.2(7), 2.25.85; Ord. No. 33E, § 1, 12.15 -86)
Sec. 1841. Final plat — Generally.
(a) Unless otherwise provided in the development contract for phased developments,
within one (1) year after the date of the city council approval of the preliminary plat, the
subdivider shall file an application for approval of the final plat. In addition to the application
the subdivider shall submit:
1 (1 ) Copies of the plat in such quantities as is required by the city;
(2) Two (2) mylar copies of the plat;
(3) One (1) two hundred (200) scale copy of the plat.
If the final plat application is not filed within this period, the preliminary plat will be
considered void unless for good cause shown an extension is requested in writing by the
subdivider and granted by the city council. The application for final plat approval shall be
filed at least fourteen (14) days prior to the meeting of the city council at which action is
desired.
f (b) The final plat shall conform to the requirements of this chapter and to all conditions
set forth in the approval of the preliminary plat as modified during final plat approval.
(c) The city council shall review the final plat and shall approve or disapprove it within
sixty (60) days of receipt of the completed application.
(d) No final plat shall be approved by the city council until the plat is in a form acceptable
for recording with the county, the proper filing fees have been paid to the city, a development
contract has been signed, appropriate security has been furnished, and no other payments to
the city related to the development are outstanding.
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Sec. 20.108. Exceptions.
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Notwithstanding the provisions of section 20 -107, the following shall not require site or
building plan approval:
(1) Construction or alteration of a single- or two - family residential building or accessory
building on a lot zoned for residential use;
(2) Enlargement of a building by less than ten (10) percent of its gross floor area, provided
that there is no variance involved and also provided that the director of planning has
conducted an administrative review pursuant to section 20.113 of this section;
(3) Changes in the leasable space of a multitenant building where the change does not
intensify the use or require additional parking;
(4 ) Construction of buildings for agricultural uses on land zoned and utilized for agricul-
tural purposes.
(5 ) Moving a residence or accessory building to any lot zoned A -1, A -2, RR, or RSF
provided that the lot and structure siting comply with all applicable zoning ordinance
standards.
(Ord. No. 119, 2- 12.90)
Sec. 20 -109. Applications.
Application for a site plan review shall be made to the city planner on forms provided by
the city and shall be filed four (4) weeks in advance of the planning commission meeting at
-� which it is to be considered. Incomplete or deficient applications shall not be scheduled for a
f/ meeting unless the director of planning has determined that official action is warranted. The
application shall also include:
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(1) Evidence of ownership or an interest in the property;
(2) The application fee; and
(3) Complete site plans, signed by a registered architect, civil engineer, landscape archi-
tect or other design professional, to include the following:
(4) General:
a. Name of project.
b. Name, address, and telephone number of applicant, engineer, and owner of record.
c. Legal description (certificate of survey will be required).
d. Date proposed, north arrow, engineering scale, number of sheets, name of drawer.
e. Vicinity map showing relationship of the proposed development to surrounding
streets, rights-of-way, easements and natural features.
f. Description of intended use of the site, buildings, and structures including type of
occupancy and estimated occupancy load.
g. Existing zoning and land use.
h. Tabulation box indicating:
1. Size of parcel in acres or square feet.
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2. Gross floor area of each building.
3. Percent of site covered by building.
4. Percent of site covered by impervious surface.
5. Percent of site covered by parking area.
6. Projected number of employees.
7. Number of seats if intended use is a restaurant or place of assembly.
S. Number of parking spaces required.
9. Number of parking spaces provided including handicapped.
10. Height of all buildings and structures and number of stories.
(5) Site and building plan:
a. Property line dimensions, location of all existing and proposed structures with
distance from boundaries, distance between structures, building dimensions, and
floor elevations.
b. Grading and drainage plans showing existing natural features (topography, wet-
lands, vegetation, etc.), as well as proposed grade elevations and sedimentation
and storm water retention ponds. Plans shall include runoff and storage calcu-
lations for 10 year and 100 year events.
c. All existing and proposed points of egresslingress showing widths at property
lines, turning radii abutting rights - of-way with indicated centerline, width, paving
width, existing and proposed median cuts, and intersections of streets and drive-
ways.
d. Vehicular circulation system showing location and dimension for all driveways,
parking spaces, parking lot aisles, service roads, loading areas, fire lanes, emer-
gency access (if necessary), public and private streets, alleys, sidewalks, bike -
paths, direction of traffic flow, and traffic - control devices.
e. Landscaping plan in accordance with the provisions of Article XXV.
f. Location, access and screening detail of trash enclosures.
g. Location and screening detail of rooftop equipment.
h. Location and detail of signage.
i. Lighting location, style and mounting.
j. Building elevations from all directions indicating materials and colors. Interior
floor plans may be required.
k. Utility plan identifying size and direction of existing water and sewer lines, fire
hydrants, distance of hydrant to proposed building.
1. List of proposed hazardous materials, use and storage.
m. Proposed fire protection system.
n. Such other information as may be required by the city.
(Ord. No. 119, 2- 12 -90)
Sec. 20 -110. Standards.
In evaluating a site and building plan, the planning commission and city council shall
consider its compliance with the following:
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(1) Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city's development ides, in.
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eluding the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may be
adopted;
(2) Consistency with this division;
(3) Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing
tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the general
appearance of neighboring developed or developing areas;
(4) Creation of a harmonious relationship of buildings and open spaces with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5 1 Creation of a functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with
special attention to the following:
a. An internal sense of order for the buildings and uses on the site and provision of
a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general community;
b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
c. Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of the
design concept and the compatibility of the same with the adjacent and neigh-
boring structures and uses; and
d. Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives and
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parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public streets,
width of interior drives and access points, general interior circulation, separation
of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement and amount of parking.
(6 Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision for
surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers, preservation of views, light and air
and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations which may
have substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
(Ord. No. 119, 2- 12.90)
Sec. 20.111. Public hearing.
Upon receipt of a completed application, a date shall be set for review of the site plan
before the planning commission. The review will be held no less than ten (10) days after mailed
notice is sent to the owners of properties located wholly or partially within five hundred (500)
feet of the site, as reflected in the records of the county auditor. The director of planning may
require an expanded mailing list for sites fronting on lakephore where-the development would
be visible over a larger area. Following the hearing or any continuance thereof which is not
appealed by the applicant, the planning commission shall make a recommendation. The site
plan shall be forwarded to the city council with the planning commission's recommendation for
review on the next available agenda. Final approval of the site plan requires a simple majority
vote of the city council.
(Ord. No. 119, 2.12 -90)
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LIST OF COMPANIES PERFORMING COMPUTERNVIDEO GRAPHICS
(Preliminary)
APRIL 21, 1994
Alpha Video & Audio, Inc.
7836 2nd Avenue South
Bloomington, MN 55435
Contact: Sam Fischer
Phone: 896 -9898
Software: Lightwave 3D Rendering
Macromedia Technologies, Inc.
4590 Scott Trail
Eagan, MN 55122
Contact: John Gregor
Phone: 683 -0579
Software: Multiple
Techno - Marketing, Inc.
5170 West 76th Street
Edina, MN 55435
Contact:
Don Little
Phone:
830 -1984
Software:
Multiple
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MACIOMEDIA
Technologies Incorporated
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Andrew Mack
City Planner
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Ph. (612) 937 -1900
fax 937 -5739
Dear Andrew,
As per our conversation yesterday I am sending you the cost quotes for the two
development scenarios you have outlined. These costs are based upon creating the
computer modeling from supplied blueprints and elevation drawings. If we were
supplied with 3- dimensional wire -frame computer files of the proposed structural
developments we can reduce our Computer Modeling costs by 10.20 %.
Residential Development Oak Ponds:
The following costs are to create a computer generated photo - realistic visualization of
the proposed development. This visualization will depict all proposed structures,
topographic changes, road alignments, landscaping and signage.
Photography:
The base photographs may be supplied by the developer or contracted through us. If
the developer supplies the photography we need to consult with the photographer
before the photo- shoot. This Is necessary to obtain the best possible image quality
and avoid additional costs later in the process.
Cost for aerial and ground level photography
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These are the costs to create the necessary computer models at photorealism of the
proposed development and render the computer models into the site photographs.
The final output will be on VHS video tape.
Total cost for the first view: $2200.00
Additional views, Cost per view: $ 800.00
Total costs:
Total cost for this project will depend upon the number of views and who supplies the
site photography. The total cost for two views and site photography will be $3800.00.
Byerly's Development:
The following are the costs to computer visualize the proposed Byerly's development.
These visualizations will include all structures and architectural detailing as Indicated
on the supplied blueprints, parking lots, landscaping, and signage. These
visualizations will be depicted at photo - realism.
Site Photography:
Again the base photography can be supplied by Macromedia Technologies or the
client.
Aerial and ground level photography: $800.00
Ground level or aerial photography only: $400.00
Computer Modeling and Rendering.
These are the costs to create the necessary computer models at photorealism and
render the computer models into the proposed site photography. These models will
depict the proposed development as described above. The final output will transferred
onto VHS video tape.
Total cost for first view:
Additional views, cost per view:
$1800.00
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Total costs:
Total costs for this project will depend upon the type of photography or who supplies
the site photography and the number of views. The total cost for aerial and ground
level site photography, and two computer modeled views will be $3400.00.
Additional output services are available, the costs are listed on the enclosed appendix.
Andrew, if you have any questions about these quotes, or our services, do not hesitate
to call me at 683 -0578. 1 look forward to talking with you again soon.
Sipcgrely,
Gregor � /
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Appendix A
Macromedia Technologies Incorporated
Price List for Video & Photographic Support Services
High Quality color Dye Sublimation Prints,
(Printed Direct From Digital File)
8 1/2 by 11 Inches 11 by 14 inches 11 by 17 inches
First Image From File: $105.00 $125.00 $150.00
Additional Copies 2-6: $ 25.00 $ 35.00 $ 50.00
(price per copy)
Additional Copies 7 -11: $ 20.00 $ 28.00 $ 44.00
4x6 Color Negative
Produced direct from computer file
Cost per negative: $95.00
EktaColor "C" Prints
Custom Quality
A negative must be created for each file before C- prints can be produced.
Size Quanity
First 2 -6 7 -11
5x7
$ 29.00
$ 19.50
$ 17.00
8X10
32.75
22.20
19.60
81!2x11
38.60
26.30
22.80
11 x 14
52.00
35.30
30.90 Call
16x20
77.10
52.30
46.30 For
2044
96.40
65.50
58.00 Quote
24x30
130.40
88.50
78.40
30x40
165.00
112.10
88.90
40x48
231.20
157.50
138.60
40x60
267.75
182.10
160.65
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35mm Color Copy Slides
Number of Orginals 1st orginal Additionals
$ 15.00
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7.50
2 -10
6.00
11 -20
5.00
21 -over
VHS
Duplications:
Qty
1
2.11
12 -24
25+
$ 15.00
$ 2.50
7.50
2.50
6.00
2.50
5.00
2.50
Price per copy
$34.00
$23.90
$22.70
call for quote
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APR -21 -94 THU 15:37 ALPHA VIDEO FAX N0, 6128969899 P.01
Andrew Mack, City of Chanhassen,
' Here is an idea of the costs and time involved in generating rendered images
like those you described. Please keep in mind, these are only estimates. The
actual cost of each project would vary according to the amount and type of
' collateral material available. That being said, here are some estimates:
For either project, figuring a best case scenario, the total package would be
approximately $1200 - $1500. This is based on approximately two days of graphics
' time at $75 /hr. This supposes that the architectural firms were supplying us with
CAD models for the elements of the rendering.
In either project, several hours would be required to convert the plan view, or
' elevation maps into a 3D landscape. It is doubtful that this information could be
provided to us in a useable format; this would necessitate creating the landscape
from scratch.
This estimate also supposes that we can get accurate colors for the elements,
as well as models for the signage, and other miscellaneous elements involved.
Any elements which would have to be created, add cost to the finished project.
This leads to the middle estimate, which would be in the $4000 -$5000 range.
This estimate suppose only some collateral materials. These would include color
' plan views, and layouts for the various elements.
Added time would be spent modeling the different elements, such as lamp
posts, signage, parking lots, streets, etc. This modeling time would be held to a
minimum if collateral materials were available, such as sketches of the various
signs, complete shopping center, or apartment community layouts.
Finally, the worst case scenario, would be creating a highly detailed model
based upon simple information only, The material which you faxed to us provides a
good example. If this was all that was available, we would have to spend large
amounts of time creating all of the elements. Details would have to be created
from scratch, and several trial renderings would be necessary to check the
accuracy of the models with the architectural plans.
This would lead to a finished cost of approximately $8000 - $9000, This amount
' could be lowered back into the middle range, by reducing the amount of detail
required. If the buildings could simply be shells without great amounts of details,
then creation times fall dramatically.
Finally, it is worth noting that with the amount of work that would be put into
any of the three levels listed, the most significant portion is accrued during the
' creation of objects and elements. The actual rendering would be insignificant.
Hope this clears things up for you. If you have any questions about this, feel
free to give me a call.
Sam Fischer
Alpha Video
ESTIMATES BY COMPUTER/ VIDEO GRAPHICS COMPANIES
APRIL 25, 1994
The following estimates were obtained by the Planning Department from the computer /video
graphics companies who were contacted and indicated an ability to perform the type of
services contemplated by the City of Chanhassen's proposed City Code amendments. The
estimates listed below are for two approved projects in the city. These projects were used as
realistic scenarios of the type of services that would typically be required by the city. Prior
to tonight's meeting, the third company contacted stated that they could perform the services
indicated but they are not specifically set up to produce the type of product needed and chose
to withdraw from consideration and submission of an estimate of services.
B yerly's
Alpha Video & Audio, Inc.
7836 2nd Avenue South
Bloomington, MN 55435
Contact: Sam Fischer
Phone: 896 -9898
Software: Lightwave 3D
Rendering
Macromedia Technologies
4590 Scott Trail
Eagan, MN 55122
Contact:
John Gregor
Phone:
683 -0579
Software:
Multiple
Oak Hill /Ponds
High: $8,000 -9,000 High:
Medium: $4,000 -5,000 Medium:
Low: $1,200 -1,500 Low:
High: n/a High:
Medium: $3,400
$8,000 -9,000
$4,000 -5,000
$1,200 -1,500
n/a
Medium: $3,800
Low: $2,720 -3,060 Low: $3,040 -3,420
LIST OF COMPANIES PERFORMING COMPUTER/VIDEO GRAPHICS
(Preliminary)
APRIL 25, 1994
Alpha Video & Audio, Inc.
7836 2nd Avenue South
Bloomington, MN 55435
Contact: Sam Fischer
Phone: 896 -9898
Software: Lightwave 3D Rendering
Macromedia Technologies, Inc.
4590 Scott Trail
Eagan, MN 55122
Contact:
John Gregor
Phone:
683 -0579
Software:
Multiple
APR 25 '94 04 :25PM LUNDGREN BOS. CONST. P.4/5
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BRUS.
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CONSTRUCTION
INC. April25, 1994
1 Honorable Mayor Don Chmiel
Members of Chanhassen City Council
1 City of Chanhassen
935 E'�r'ayzata 81vd, 690 Coulter Drive
P. O. Box 147
W ayzata Chanhassen, MN 55317
1 Minnesola 55391 Dear Mayor Chm and City Council Members:
(612)47 -1231
Lundgren Bros. Construction, Lnc, is strongly opposed to the adoption of the proposed amendment
to the City Code Sections 18 -40 and 20 -109 regarding a requirement to submit computer -aided
graphics or models for subdivisions and site -plan reviews. The purpose of this letter is to briefly
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summarize our reasons for opposing this amendment
First, the amendment as written is overbroad and vague. The amendment does not provide
sufficient guidelines to determine who is affected by this requirement, when it Nvill be applied,
what type of developments will need to provide this information, why this additional information
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is required, and how this information will be presented. As a developer, upon a facial reading of
this amendment, it provides no indication of which of our developments will be required to
submit computer -aided drawings, Computer -aided drawings are a substantial imposition on a
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developer and may impede proceeding with the development. As such', some guidelines need to
be stated so it can be determined when these graphics will be required.
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Second, computer -aided graphics impose a significant cost to the developer which are in turn
passed on to the consumer. These graphics can range in cost from $150 to tens of thousands of
dollars. In essence, this requirement would make many of the Lundgren Bros. residential projects
financially impossible. These graphics may provide a nice visual perspective of the development
but this benefit is substantially outweighed by the costs imposed,
Third, the.information given by these additional computer graphics is a duplication of information
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and development controls already available. The City controls proposed developments by the
provisions set forth in the City Code_ T'lie Code sets standards for numerous items including
setbacks, signage„ platting approvals, grading, and wetland requirements. These code items
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protect the city and allow them to control the development. Numerous drawings of the site are
provided by grading plans, utility plans, signage plans, preliminary and final plats. These
renderings provide a visual perspective of the development'. The computer aided drawings merely
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duplicate the information already provided but show it through a different perspective.
Fourth, requiring these graphics will greatly increase the time involved in the approval process.
The last three preliminary plats that Lundgren Bros: submitted had to be redone. When the plats
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,are redone the computer -aided graphics will also need to be redone. The time required to provide
these changes greatly increases the 'costs and length of the approval time.
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Fifth, the language of the amendment states that the graphics are required when the, development
abuts a "less intensive land uses, is located adjacent to a critical environmental corridor, requires
extensive grade changes, or is located in an area considered a focal point or highly visible location
within the city." In relation to the first point set forth, this language broadly states that almost
any development could be subject to this requirement Almost every site will need grading, but
when would this grading become excessive? When does a location change from being visible to
highly visible? More importantly, what purpose would be served by showing a computer graphic
of a residential development abutting'a less intensive land use? Essentially, this requirement
means a perspective view from a wetland or a park since these are uses less intensive than
residential.
Lundgren Bros, understands.thai all things considered it would be wonderful to have computer
aided graphics of all of the developments. However in practicality, this amendment would
severely limit the amount of development or greatly increase the cost to the buyer.
At the last meeting, and as stated in the staff report, it was interpreted that residential development
would be exempt from these requirements. Upon review of the amendment, the requirement for
computer aided graphics appears to apply to residential uses. We wrote a letter before the last
meeting opposing this issue and strongly reiterate our opposition at this time. The amendment is
overbroad, vague, and imposes an immense cost on developers and eventually buyers.-
Mayor, members of the City Council, we ask that you hear our opposition to this Code
Amendment_ We ask that this item be turned down.
Very truly yours,
Terry M. Forbord
Vice President
OPUS
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Opus CorporAtien
800 OIT•is Center
9900 Bran Rnad Last
Minnetonka, Minnesota 5511141E100
{;17.9964444
The Honorable Mayor and City Council
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
PO Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
bear Mayor and Council Members:
612 937 5735 1994,04 -26 03:09Pr1 #R11 P.0202
Mailing Arldress
h0, Box 150
Minneripulis, Mlnnanla 5544U - 01W
rax 611':138.4529
' opus Corporation and Gateway Partners Limited Partnership wishes to express its continued
opposition to the ]proposed Code Amendment to rewire photo comipositc ItTlaging for commercial,
industrial, or office site plans or cotppmcrcial /industrial subdivisions. We do not feel that a
compelling case has been made for establishing; this new requirement when other Twin Cities
' Communities are able to review and approve development projects without. this requirement in
Place.
' Currently, site elevations are prepared as part of a project's normal site and building plan review
process. Renderings are also prepared if this seems appropriate, If c;oncc1 are raised about the
visual impact of a proposed development, a developer responds as needed and appropriate.
' Establishing an additional time-consuming and potentially expensive requirement for all
commercial and industrial pr(kiects does not seem warranted,
' We would request that this ordinance change be denied.
Sincerely,
-/�04
' Michele Foster
Director
Real Estate Dcvclopment
' MF:bb
CC: Paul Steiner
' Kate Adnenson
Don Ashworth
Opus Corporation is an of(iliato of tl)R Dpus group of companiHS AtOlAects, Contramrs, DevelapyrH
AUSIITI, ClIjcogo, Dollas, Deom, Houston, Milwauke8, Minnoapoli5, Peg.ar.,nla, Phoenix, Seiatk, Tampa