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7. Snowmobile Traili CITY OF � CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 & FAX (612) 937 -5739 TO: Don Ashworth, City Manager FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director Action by City Administrdi6P Endorsed ,/ — " A Modific Rejecte — Det PW Submitted to Commissiotf ' DATE: August 16, 1994 DW submitbad to CoUs►c�1 — ' SUBJ: Consider Request of Southwest Metro Trail Association to Utilize Southwest Regional Light Rail Transit Route as a Snowmobile Trail ' On March 22, 1994, Mr. LeRoy Biteler, speaking as a member of the Southwest Trails Association, asked the Park and Recreation Commission to advocate snowmobile travel on the ' above mentioned abandoned railroad right -of -way (see attached memorandum dated March 16, 1994 and resulting minutes). Mike Farkas of the Snowmobile Club also addressed the commission in this regard. Upon entertaining a short discussion that evening, the commission ' asked that the issue be placed on a future agenda for public discussion. On June 28, 1994, the Park and Recreation Commission held a public meeting to review the ' request of the Southwest Metro Trail Association (see attached memorandum dated June 22, 1994 and resulting minutes). Notification of this meeting was published in the Chanhassen Villager and letters were mailed to property owners abutting the railroad bed. This mailing ' reached the vast majority of homeowners; however, residents on Heidi Lane were inadvertently omitted from the mailing. Neighborhood "gossip" reached at least some of the nine households on Heidi Lane (two of which abut the railroad right -of -way). The ' commission entertained discussion from the audience of approximately. 20 persons prior to closing public comment to discuss the issue among commissioners. This one Dour long process concluded with Commissioner Lash moving, Meger seconding that the Park and ' Recreation Commission would recommend allowing snowmobiling as the only motorized activity on the Southwest Regional LRT Trail with the conditions that the Snowmobile Club would sign the trail, there would be enforcement of the speed limit and curfew, ' and that the Park and Recreation Commission would review this item annually. The motion failed with a 3 to 3 vote. A second motion was made by Commissioner Andrews, ' seconded by Commissioner Manders that the Park and Recreation Commission would recommend to prohibit snowmobiling on the Southwest Regional Trail. This motion also failed by a 3 to 3 vote. MEMORANDUM Don Ashworth August 16, 1994 ' Page 2 SUMMARY OF ISSUES ' - The southern LRT route is owned by the Hennepin County Regional Railroad Authority ( HCRRA) from Hopkins to a point just south of Highway 212 at the ' Chanhassen/Chaska border. Hennepin Parks holds an agreement with the HCRRA to utilize the LRT route as a ' trail for an undetermined length of time from Hopkins to Bluff Creek Drive in Chanhassen. Whatever the decision of the Chanhassen City Council, the Hennepin Parks Board of Directors has the authority to condone or override any decision handed ' down by the city council affecting their portion of the trail. The City of Chanhassen holds an agreement with the HCRRA to utilize the LRT route ' as a trail corridor as a temporary use from Bluff Creek Drive to Highway 212 (see attached agreement). ' - Abandoned railroad beds are routinely converted into trails and are often utilized as snowmobile routes. ' - Hennepin Parks has fenced portions of the route which were deemed potentially hazardous due to extreme slope drop off. ' - The Snowmobile Club is requesting this route be designated as an alternative to their Audubon Road trail (see map). ' - Some residents who abut the corridor in addition to some residents who do not have voiced their objection to the proposal to utilize the corridor for snowmobile travel. ' - The majority of the homes which are located in the vicinity of the railroad bed lie a considerable distance from the trail. ' - If the City of Chanhassen recommends snowmobile travel be allowed, the City of Eden Prairie must also agree to allow snowmobiles in the corridor from Lake Riley to ' Pioneer Trail. - The City of Eden Prairie Park and Recreation Commission voted not to recommend ' that snowmobile access be allowed on their portion of the corridor. The Eden Prairie City Council will review this issue on a future agenda. - Permission to gain access via private property to Lake Riley on the Chanhassen side has been secured by the Snowmobile Club. 7 Don Ashworth August 16, 1994 Page 3 - The City of Chaska Park and Recreation Commission approved this new route on August 8, 1994. The Chaska City Council will review this issue on a future agenda. The Snowmobile Club has initiated investigations into a dry land route which bypasses the City of Eden Prairie, but still utilizes the railroad corridor. Appropriate notification of this discussion has been mailed. A member of the Park and Recreation Commission will be in attendance at the August 22 city council meeting to answer any questions of the council. Representatives of the Snowmobile Club will be available to initiate this discussion. I await direction from the city council in this regard. MEMORANDUM CITY OF 6 CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 TO: Park and Recreation Commission FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director DATE: June 22, 1994 SUBJ: Public Hearing, Southwest Regional LRT Trail, Review Request of Southwest Metro Trail Association to Utilize Corridor for Snowmobiles As the commission is aware, Mr. LeRoy Biteler representing the Chanhassen snowmobilers, made a visitor presentation before the commission on March 22, 1994, in regard to the future modes of transportation to be allowed on the above mentioned trail. Hennepin Parks has elected to allow the local units of government through which this trail passes to discuss which mode of transportation are appropriate for the corridor. In speaking with Del Miller of Hennepin Parks, it is the consensus that travel by horse or equestrian use will not be allowed. Furthermore, through conversation with representatives of Eden Prairie, it appears that snowmobiles will not be allowed on the trail in the City of Eden Prairie. Likewise, officials of the City of Chaska have concerns in this regard. With an aggregate surface, biking, walking and jogging will represent the mainstream activities along this corridor. There are currently no plans to maintain the trail as a cross country ski facility; however, it should not be construed that cross country skiing will not be allowed. Tracking operations through the use of a mechanized track layer is not included in the current maintenance plans. As the commission is aware, Hennepin Parks is concluding their segment of the trail at Bluff Creek Drive and the Cities of Chanhassen and Chaska are currently attempting to facilitate the completion of the trail from Bluff Creek Drive to Highway 212. The latter segment is located wholly within the City of Chanhassen, thus two governing entities (the City of Chanhassen and Hennepin Parks) have the final say as to what uses will be allowed on the Chanhassen portion of the corridor. I have attached the staff report presented to the commission dated March 16, 1994, the letter of request from LeRoy Biteler representing the Southwest Metro Trail Association, the minutes which resulted from that discussion, and a copy of the mailing list and notification letter which was distributed to adjacent landowners and other interested parties. I await the direction of the commission in this regard. � N Attachments: 1. 2. 3. 4. PC: Staff report dated March 16, 1994 Letter from LeRoy Biteler Park and Recreation Commission Minutes dated March 22, 1994 Notification Letter and Mailing List Larry O'Dell, Hennepin County Regional Rail Authority Southwest Street Level Government Center Minneapolis, MN 55487 -0016 Del Miller, Hennepin Parks Mike Liddicoat, Carver County Parks Dave Pokorney, Chaska City Administrator Tom Redman, City of Chaska Bob Lambert, City of Eden Prairie LeRoy Biteler, Southwest Metro Trail Association Carol Dunsmore, Eden Prairie Horsemen 1 1 ' June 22, 1994 Dear Resident: J I CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 As you may be aware, Hennepin Parks is completing trail improvements on the Hennepin County Regional Railroad Authority (HCRRA) Light Rail Transit (LRT) route from Hopkins to Bluff Creek Drive in Chanhassen. The Cities of Chanhassen and Chaska are considering extending this trail from Bluff Creek to Highway 212 to facilitate future connection to the City of Chaska. Upon completion, the trail will be available for walking, jogging, and biking; use by horses is not being considered and the availability of the trail for snowmobilers is in question. At present, no use by motorized vehicles is authorized along the corridor. However, the Southwest Metro Trail Association has requested utilization of the corridor for snowmobiles from Lake Riley through Chanhassen to the City of Chaska. The Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission has called a public hearing in this regard for Tuesday, June 28, 1994, in the Chanhassen City Council Chambers. This item appears sixth on the commission's agenda that evening and will be discussed after 8:00 p.m. If you have an opinion in this regard, or are interested in the future of this trail, please attend next Tuesday's meeting. If you are unable to attend and would like to submit written comments, or if you have additional questions, please call me at 937 -1900, ext. 121. Sincerely, Todd Hoffman Park and Recreation Director TH:k JAMES STRUBLE 12420 29TH AVENUE NO PLYMOUTH, MN 55441 ARI FUAD 6645 CHEROKEE TRAIL WEST EDEN PRAIRIE, MN 55344 KIRK A MACKENZIE 10420 BLUFF CIRCLE Chaska, MN 55318 LEE ANDERSON 6651 MINNEWASHTA PKWY Excelsior, MN 55331 PAUL KILKER DENNIS BARTHOLOW 788 LAKE POINT 9841 DEERBROOK DR CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 JOHN REVIER GREGORY LAWLER PO BOX 358 9900 DEERBROOK DR CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 FIRST AMERICAN BANK JIM MCWILLIAM 633 SO CONCORD SO ST PAUL, MN 55075 DAVID J PELLER 1819 HAEG DR BLOOMINGTON, MN 55431 MICHAEL A BOYLAN 17700 SOUTHRIDGE COURT MINNETONKA, MN 55345 PAUL TAUNTON 10125 CROSSTOWN CIRCL #310 EDEN PRAIRIE, MN 55344 LELAND F GOHLIKE 11661 MYERON ROAD STILLWATER, MN 55082 JEFFREY MICHEL 11887 WATERFORD ROAD EDEN PRAIRIE, MN 55344 GERALD BERTSCH 8556 IRWIN ROAD BLOOMINGTON, MN 55437 EVERETT OLSON 1675 FLYING CLOUD DR Chaska, MN 55318 1705 FLYING CLOUD DR Chaska, MN 55318 JOSEPH KANDIKO 10421 BLUFF CIRCLE Chaska, MN 55318 RICHARD NIEMI 10460 BLUFF CIRCLE Chaska, MN 55318 JOHN LONSTEIN 1559 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE N� MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55427 JOHN POULOS 6600 FRANCE AVENUE #660 ' MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55435 , GEORGE NELSON & ASSOC. 1660 SO HIGHWAY 100 MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55416 ' STONE ARCH INC t 2750 STONE ARCH ROAD WOODLAND, MN 55391 , THOMAS ZWIERS ' 11111 DEUCE ROAD ELKO, MN 55020 WILFRED H JR DAHLKE 1705 FLYING CLOUD DR Chaska, MN 55318 R OHN B PAUL LOWELL CAMPBEL TIM WISE VERNON,TEICH, DAN TESTER TERRANCE BEAUCHANE 20 F.LY'ING CLOUD DR 230 FLYING CLOUD DR 240 FLYING CLOUD DR haska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 EON MESENBRINK LE VERNE M VASSAR ALVIN LEBENS 250 FLYING CLOUD DR 285 FLYING CLOUD DR 460 FLYING CLOUD DR haska, MN 55318 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 Chaska, MN 55318 ILLARD A. HALVER SORENSEN PROPERTIES JOSEPH NOTERMANN 70 FLYING CLOUD DR J MICHAEL SORENSEN 1205 WEST 6TH AVENUE Chaska, MN 55318 ROUTE 2 BOX 187K SHAKOPEE, MN 55379 1 BELLE PLAINE, MN 56011 RESTER J. TEICH RICHARD DEE SHERYL HOUGH 25 FLYING CLOUD DR 1201 HESSE FARM CIRCLE 1225 HESSE FARM CIRCLE Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 1 EDWARD MUELLER JOHN FORCE PAUL ALLEN 251 HESSE FARM CIRCLE 1001 HESSE FARM ROAD 1002 HESSE FARM ROAD haska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 1 DANIEL SMITH WM E HARDER GARY BAKER 020 HESSE FARM ROAD 1025 HESSE FARM ROAD 1075 HESSE FARM ROAD haska, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 [RAYNE JOHNSEN TODD J ROGERS HOWARD NOZISKA 1100 HESSE FARM ROAD 1101 HESSE FARM ROAD 1120 HESSE FARM ROAD haska, MN 55318 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 Chaska, MN 55318 1 RUCE RECH ROBERT PERRY ROGER BROWN 180 HESSE FARM ROAD 1181 HESSE FARM ROAD 1200 HESSE FARM ROAD Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 1 "UGENE JUNKER GARY WEHRWEIN ROBERT STEFFES 250 HESSE FARM ROAD CHASKA DRUG 1350 HESSE FARM ROAD haska, MN 55318 323 CHESTNUT Chaska, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 1 THOMAS TOUSSAINT NICK EVANOFF RUSSEL BARTO STONEWOOD COURT 1401 HESSE FARM ROAD 400 LAKOTA LANE [ 864 DEN PRAIRIE, MN 55346 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 R OHN B PAUL LOWELL CAMPBEL TIM WISE 17541 MANCHESTER AVENUE IRVINE, CA 92714 LAVERNE WHEELER 445 LAKOTA LANE Chaska, MN 55318 N A MONROE 565 LAKOTA LANE CHASKA, MN 55318 415 LAKOTA LANE Chaska, MN 55318 M. C. HAPPE 495 LAKOTA LANE Chaska, MN 55318 VERNE SEVERSON 675 LAKOTA LANE Chaska, MN 55318 425 LAKOTA LANE Chaska, MN 55318 DEVAL MEDH 535 LAKOTA LANE Chaska, MN 55318 JAMES SALERUD SCOTT FINLEY ALLEN ROTHE 730 VOGELSBERG TRAIL 740 VOGELSBERG TRAIL 750 VOGELSBERG TRAIL Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 ' Andrews: I think we need a motion or a resolution of support here I guess is what we really need here. ' Huffman: With ongoing discussion involving... community people who have never had a chance to voice before. ' Lash: I can't imagine that Shorewood wouldn't have a similar policy as Chanhassen that anyone affected by things like this, are notified. So if you're not being notified, I'd call the ' Shorewood City Hall and ask to be notified of any future. Gary Carlson: I have been there. Andrews: I guess I'd send them a certified letter and if they didn't notify you of a meeting pertaining to that park after receiving a certified letter, I guess I'd argue they'd probably be in ' violation of some law. Because I know that when developers own property here and there's any action going on with it, we have to send them notices that we're discussing the land so. I think it's unanimous here that we would support the City of Shorewood improving a park ' that we get to use so I don't think we need a formal motion do we Todd to move ahead on this, or would you like a motion of support? Let's have a motion of support then please. Roeser: I move we support Shorewood's plan for improvement of Cathcart Park. ' Andrews: Second? Lash: Second. ' Roeser moved, Lash seconded that the Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission support Shorewood's plans for improvements to Cathcart Park. All voted in favor and ' the motion carried. PUBLIC HEARING: SOUTHWEST REGIONAL LRT TRAIL. REVIEW REOUEST ' OF SOUTHWEST METRO TRAIL ASSOCIATION TO UTILIZE CORRIDOR FOR SNOWMOBILES. I Public Present: Name Address ' Daniel & Kathy Smith Bob Steffes 1020 Hesse Farm Road 1350 Hesse Farm Road 33 Todd Hoffman presented the staff report on this item. I Mark Briol: I don't think many people who have adjacent land to that track got notification of this meeting. I got notification yesterday and my back yard... Andrews: Sir, I'm going to invite comments from all members of the audience here very soon so, in fact I'll do that at this time. Anybody wishing to speak about this issue from the ' audience, please step to the mic. State your name and address please. Willard Halver: My name is Willard Halver. I live at 470 Flying Cloud Drive. That's just ' close to the line. Oh about half a block or 3/4 of a block between the old, where the TH 101 railroad bridge was. I've lived there 37 years and it seems as though it's been a little bit of an ongoing problem for me and I've lived with it. My house is about 250 feet down the side ' here and it wasn't so bad when the railroad was in there. Certainly the trains coming through kind of kept the things in order but this past spring now, we've had 3 wheel all terrain vehicles up on there. 250. Unlicensed. Tearing up and down the bluff area. Up behind ' Sorenson's buildings to the railroad, the old railroad right -of -way. Past my place. Up through where Dr. Monroe and the other people live on the bluff. They've got regular trails in there and they're running... evening or not. If you went back far enough from my place ' you would see it. Andrews: We rode all the way through there tonight and we. ' 34 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 � ' Karen Dee 1201 Hesse Farm Circle Georgia Kandiko 10421 Bluff Circle, Chaska Lee K. Anderson 10441 Bluff Circle, Chaska ' Willard Halver 470 Flying Cloud Drive Todd Kurtz John Heerdt 5215 Polk Avenue, Mayer Rt. 1, Box 40, Mayer ' Cheryl Marszalek 10360 Heidi Lane Allen Koenig 12610 98th St, Cologne Mark Briol 10377 Heidi Lane ' LeRoy Biteler 910 Penamint Court Bill Roberts Bill Kullberg 880 Lake Drive P.O. 34, Navarre Brad Blomquist 7141 Derby Drive Jeff & Brenda Meredith 1050 Butte Court Jussi Leliti 8200 West Lake Court ' Todd Hoffman presented the staff report on this item. I Mark Briol: I don't think many people who have adjacent land to that track got notification of this meeting. I got notification yesterday and my back yard... Andrews: Sir, I'm going to invite comments from all members of the audience here very soon so, in fact I'll do that at this time. Anybody wishing to speak about this issue from the ' audience, please step to the mic. State your name and address please. Willard Halver: My name is Willard Halver. I live at 470 Flying Cloud Drive. That's just ' close to the line. Oh about half a block or 3/4 of a block between the old, where the TH 101 railroad bridge was. I've lived there 37 years and it seems as though it's been a little bit of an ongoing problem for me and I've lived with it. My house is about 250 feet down the side ' here and it wasn't so bad when the railroad was in there. Certainly the trains coming through kind of kept the things in order but this past spring now, we've had 3 wheel all terrain vehicles up on there. 250. Unlicensed. Tearing up and down the bluff area. Up behind ' Sorenson's buildings to the railroad, the old railroad right -of -way. Past my place. Up through where Dr. Monroe and the other people live on the bluff. They've got regular trails in there and they're running... evening or not. If you went back far enough from my place ' you would see it. Andrews: We rode all the way through there tonight and we. ' 34 � J I 1 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 Willard Halver: ...and back up and make a run ... anyhow, what the climax to the whole thing, I've kind of overlooked this. We were gone for the winter and we came back last April and I knew this was going on and I just let it ride. 10th of June my wife and I usually take a little nap in the afternoon at oh, 1:00, 1:30, 2:00. And the dog barked and something funny was hitting the house. And I was kind of half asleep and she was kind of half asleep and the... we didn't think too much of it and then finally the third piece hit the house. So I got up and looked around and I couldn't see anything and I went outside and here I started picking up a rock here, a rock there. Four pieces of rocks. Now this is this crushed stuff off the edge of this railroad bed. So I take it upon myself to go up and find out where and what was going on. I just missed the culprit. He got back on on the all terrain vehicle and was down the road when I was up there. You could see in the weeds where he had parked. And he has to get over about 250, or maybe 300 feet so that's an awful arms throw. You've got to be better than Kirby Puckett in order to throw that far. Now it was only ... 4 to 6 rocks that I picked up in my yard. And I called Scott Harr. I had to go through the iron curtain to get ahold of Scott Han. I could get ahold of Scott Harr. Then finally he took my call and made a report out on it. I was told to call the Chaska Sheriff's Department, which I did. Well gosh Mr. Halver, they're out on an emergency right now. It's going to be some time before they come. I went back up the hill. Here comes this ATV, just going ... at that point I had to hide behind the trees. The wife looks out the kitchen window and here is Mr. Culprit looking and he saw her. He tore on the all terrain vehicle. It did come over the scanner and the owner of this business, of the Sorenson building and the guy that did the dirty work, took off out there and we never saw them for 2 more days. This is why I called Scott Harr and I sent a letter to him 2 weeks ago and I haven't got an answer. I said what's going on down there. So public safety to me is a sh word. We don't get the support we need. So I am against until, ...until we get some law enforcement on that trail. There's been tires dumped out there on that trail. Hennepin County's got it posted now so it's ... but there's a garbage dump out there because I go out there every once in a while and walk and I used to walk when the railroad was there. I've lived there for 37 years. But until we get some law enforcement there, I'm against it 100 %. And like I say, there's nothing from preventing these 3 wheel all terrain vehicles from putting a ski on in the wintertime and using them as a snowmobile. So the minute this permit is granted for snowmobiles, how many other types of, they can roll on them with tires. How many other types of vehicles can use it snowmobiles. Thank you. Andrews: Thank you sir. Mark Briol: Members of the panel, I appreciate your patience. I did not get notice of this hearing, nor have I gotten notice of any other hearings before this panel relating to what constitutes basically my back yard. Andrews: Could you state your name and address. 35 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 �. Mark Briol: My name is Mark Briol your honor. I got notice yesterday when the neighbor stuck a notice in my box. This was my response today. I had no idea that this was going to used as a bike trail, much less a snowmobile trail. Snowmobile trail or anything else. I , contacted the Minnesota Attorney General's office and the Environmental Quality Board and they're generally wondering whether or not there's a mandatory environmental assessment statement that needs to filed. And if not, whether the petitioning process can take place. Second of all, I want this Board to know about the safety concerns I have of anything taking place back there. I've called 911 on more than one occasion to complain about people shooting in my back yard. They go back there and they hunt deer and they hunt everything else. I don't know what's going to happen now with respect to the hunting regulations in my back yard but people are shooting in my back yard, which is right by where those railroad path is going to be. I have some serious concerns. I go back there once or twice a year to ' see what my back yard is like. I walk down the trail. I pick up pop cans. I pick up shotgun shells. I pick up garbage. Who's going to take care of the littering? In terms of safety concerns for people along the path, if you walk the path today, if you went down there, you'll ' see as you go down there that there's a significant drop off on the incline. It can go down 10 or more feet and they go down in the marsh and things like that. Well who's going to pick up the garbage down there, number one. Number two, if there's going to be snowmobiles in there or if there are going to be people on that trail, there should be guardrails. There should be something to keep people from falling off that path and getting injured. Second of all with respect to physical safety, I agree with what this gentleman has said. There's no police protection out where I am. I've got to call 911. I have never, in the 5 years I've been there, seen a police car out in Hesse Farm, or anywhere near Hesse Farm. Not even to pick up speeders. The only way I get a police car out there is if I call them. And I pay a significant amount of property taxes. Fire hazards. Now if there's going to be increased traffic back there in the, I don't want my back yard to turn into a Los Angeles. It gets very dry back , there on occasions. If there's going to be increased traffic, and people are going to be tossing out cigarette butts, I'd as soon not see any cigarette smoking on that trail. I don't want somebody to toss a cigarette butt off and have my whole back yard torched. And if you ' know the way the development is put together, the woods go all the way up the hill and they surround the houses. I mean if that place gets torched, everybody's house gets torched because I don't see any fire hydrants out there. I don't see where anybody could come out , there and make any kind of reasonable approach to public safety to save the environment if the place goes up. Second of all with respect to snowmobiles. I've got to tell you this. Last year I was walking with my daughter down one of the paths on the east side. A snowmobile came buzzing by us. They came up behind a horse. Now the horse couldn't move aside. Either he was, the path just wasn't wide enough. So the horse rears up and bucks and the snowmobiles continue to follow it down the path until finally they get to a place where the horse can go aside. I'm not sure the paths are wide enough to be able to sustain either snowmobiles passing each other or people walking on it at the same time snowmobiles are on 36 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 there. It just is, I'm concerned I've never gotten notice before. I responded in a timely manner and I hope that you consider both, whether or not you're going to make a path and ' two, what you're going to use it for. Thanks. Andrews: Thank you. Dan Smith: Members, good evening. My name is Dan Smith. I live at 1020 Hesse Farm Road in Chaska. I say Chaska because that's our mailing address but we're in Chanhassen. ' We're down in that little part of the city where we get no services until things like this occur. The easiest thing to do is just say no. You know, don't do it. Snowmobiles, absolutely not. It's not a good spot for it. People who are affected, you know are the ones who are going to ' put up with this garbage. We also did not get notification and I appreciate my neighbors getting me to this meeting because it's a tremendous annoyance if something like this occurs. You've got the opportunity here. Eden Prairie's already saying no. Chaska's going to make up their mind in a few years but just stop it right now. Andrews: Anybody else from the audience? Resident: I don't need to state... Andrews: Thank you. Anybody else feels the same? ' Resident: Well I too live on high ... and the snowmobile traffic that already illegally uses that trail makes a terrible noise. It's something that wakes up somebody from sound asleep. If it's a sanctioned snowmobile trail, I'm concerned that the use will be continuous all night and all day. Andrews: Anybody else have any comments or more than a few seconds, please do step up and state your name and address. Not only is it good that you get on the record but the Council does get copies of the Minutes. It may be important. It also might make it easier for us to notify you if there's future hearings. ' Resident: Would you like our names and addresses? ' Andrews: Well there will be a sheet that goes around. Why don't you make sure you get, if you're not. I Lash: And if you are not on ... chances are you're not going to be picked up for the record. 37 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 Bob Steffes: My name is Bob Steffes. I live at 1350 Hesse Farm Road. I'm the neighborhood president for the east association. I've been getting mailings regularly on any action for the neighborhood yet on this one we did not receive a mailing. Is there any reason why this one? Huffman: There's a conspiracy. Roeser: Todd, is this an official public hearing? Hoffman: No it is not. Mr. Steffes is on the mailin g prepared list that was re ared for this. Daniel ' Smith, 1020 Hesse Farm Road is on the list. ' Dan Smith: Are you mailing it to Chanhassen because we don't get mail if it says Chanhassen. ' Hoffman: The addresses are Chaska, Minnesota 55318. And then again your letter ... 1025 Hesse Farm Road was on this and... If they did truly not get their's —we'll find out. As far ' as ... computer generated and if that street is not listed on that search so that was an error and that will be corrected. Andrews: I'd like to ask the people that did not receive mailing today, or by today, if they ' do receive them late, that they contact the city office and note how many days it took them to get their mail so in future hearings that an appropriate amount of mailing time could be , used. Resident: Only one person in the neighborhood received a mailing and that was Howard ' Noziska, if I'm not mistaken. Howard was a past member of I believe the Planning Commission. Maybe that's why he was notified but in the past we... Andrews: Yeah we do but I have to also point out that occasionally on city mailings that I've gotten them the day of a meeting and that's cutting it awful close. Resident: Who maintains the trail? There's just some general questions about who will maintain this trail once it's constructed. Huffman: Do Y ou want to start at the beginning and just explain where the trail is too? I , mean it's the railroad bed we're talking about. We're not talking about your neighborhoods and streets and things of that nature. Okay, we're talking about the railroad bed. ' 38 � r I , Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 Resident: Right. There's a trail there existing already on the south edge of the Hesse Farm property. I Huffman: Correct. Resident: Right, absolutely. And who's going to maintain that once it's constructed? It's finished now... ' Hoffman: As everyone knows, it's owned by the Hennepin County Regional ... at least as the commission is aware. Hennepin Parks has an agreement with the HCIA to utilize that trail and that corridor as a trail. Hennepin Parks is the governmental jurisdiction in charge of it, ' thus they will be maintaining it. Unless they make some agreements otherwise... Resident: So it will be maintained if it's damaged by snowmobiles or other forms activity? Hoffman: That's correct. Andrews: Could I ask Todd to clarify too. The jurisdictional control of uses. How that's determined so everybody is aware how that's working. Hoffman: Hennepin Parks obviously they have the agreement with people on that property. However they have to look to each individual municipality to take the initiative to find out what the residents, the user groups of the individual communities would like to see take place ' on that trail. Thus they have given the individual communities the liberty to hold these type of neighborhood informational meetings. This commission has held these, on this speck trail dealing with horses. The horse groups. The snowmobile groups. The commission has looked at 2 years ago at taking this project upon themselves. The commission was not ..to it. You've taken a look at a variety of things over the years. But for everyone's information, Hennepin County's jurisdiction stops at Bluff Creek. The City of Chaska then ... to the city of Chanhassen has maintained the segment from Bluff Creek Drive to the Highway 212. Resident: So the present trail is off limits to all motorized vehicles, is that correct? Hoffman: The operations policy has not been established. I Resident: I thought that had. Hoffman: The Hennepin County Regional Rail Authority has notified properties that no motorized vehicles. Hennepin Parks has not... 39 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 Andrews: And that's why we're here tonight. Resident: The Southwest Trail Association was mentioned in the letter. ' Hoffman: They have spokespeople here this evening... Resident: Okay. g . The only other thin I'd like to mention is that the use of snowmobiles on , that trail will ruin the use of the trails for other things such as cross country skiing and other , activities. I don't think they will mix very well. Thank you very much. Huffman: Real quick, Mr. Briol? You talked about the public safety never has been around. , You've never been to a Jim Huff's birthday party then in your neighborhood? Mark Briol: Ah no. I Huffman: Okay. Georgia Kandiko: I'm Georgia Kandiko and I do wish to go on record as being opposed to opening this trail for snowmobiles. I live at 10421 Bluff Circle. I did receive notification, thank you very much and this one is at my back yard also. It is a noisy problem already. When it is established as a snowmobiles are allowed to use this. They already are using this trail ... so I'm adamantly opposed to this ... thank you. Andrews: I'd ask to indulge the commission with brief comments. We've got a whole bunch , more to go yet tonight so, alright. Thank you. Resident: ...I just have one question with regards to maintenance of the trails by Hennepin County. Does that include trash pick -up ?. Hoffman: Yes it does as far as I understand. They had sent out a mailing that they would be holding a meeting in this regard to the municipalities I believe on July 17th at their headquarters at French Regional Park. That was one of the items on there... 1 Resident: I would just state that I also am opposed to snowmobiles... Karen Dee: M name is Karen Dee at 1201 Hesse Farm Circle. This also is art of m back ' Y P Y yard. I did not receive notice. I'd like to go on record as stating I'm very opposed. In addition to the safety and environmental concerns... integrity. We've made several inquiries and have always been told there was no motorized vehicles. I would hope they live up to that. 40 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 Roeser: I can tell you this about all Hennepin County trails. They don't go out on motorized vehicles on their trails but see we've been given the authority to decide that in Chanhassen. ' Karen Dee: ...go through Hennepin County and Carver County ... that there would be no motorized vehicles. Roeser: Yeah. I ride their bike trails a lot and they don't. ' Andrews: Is there anybody here from that snowmobile association that wish to make any comments tonight? ' Leroy Biteler: Good evening. My name is Leroy Biteler and I am a member of the Chanhassen Snowmobile Club. A member of the Southwest Trail Association. I guess to start off with, I was happy to see on some of these letters that were sent in that there was at least one that had a positive note to our trail system being allowed on railroad beds. In comments from some of the things that have been said, snowmobilers in the past in our community have encouraged and brought on through law enforcement to our trail system. Not only has the DNR been on our trail system, patrolling the trail system. We, as a club, have encouraged and called and arranged with Carver County... somehow on our trail system with some of our own personnel and patrolled the trail. What I'm saying here is that we ' have assisted and will continue to assist in helping patrol any trails we have in our trail system. We would like to get even more involved in that standpoint but that may not be as easily done as what we would like it to. It's not unusual for railroad lines to be converted to 1 trail systems to have motorized vehicles with skis. Such as the county. We have a trail system that runs through Shorewood and out to Victoria which has gone from rail to trails and allowed snowmobiles. Andrews: Is that the Luce Line? Leroy Biteler: The Luce Line is one. What is the name of the one in Shorewood? Is that the Luce Line or is there a name for that? Roeser: The Luce Line's in Wayzata. Resident: The Luce Line goes out through Orono and out... Leroy Biteler: And the one in Shorewood going to Victoria. Resident: It has not an official name right now but it has been taken over by Hennepin Parks. 41 t Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 Leroy iteler: Okay. As far as an environmental issue I reap don't think that is an issue , Y Y � Y on a railroad bed that is now going to be a gravel bed. There has been, we have done with , respect to decibels with snowmobiles and sound, how far, how far they will transmit the sound and we have been documenting some information here. One of the gentleman that actually was involved with doing those tests on one of the railroad beds that at one time was a problem. He may speak later. As far as the width of the trail, Todd do you know how wide this trail is going to be? Hoffman: The trail would be 10 feet from the shoulders. , Leroy Biteler: 10 feet is plenty wide enough—for snowmobiles to pass. I Resident: Oh no... Andrews: I'd have to state that we drove this in a Chevy Suburban tonight and it was amply wide for that to drive the trail, and a Chevy Suburban's at least 8 feet wide. About 8 feet wide. We had plenty. Hoffman: The specifications on the trail are 10 feet wide which... Resident: The sign says no motorized vehicles tonight. Huffman: I was pushing. Leroy Biteler: That being the case, it is most definitely wide enough for snowmobiles to pass. Our trails, our Southwest Trails groom the trail systems so that that will maintain a ' width of 8 to 10 feet because we'll be able to groom that both ways. As opposed to just having one track run down with a snowmobile. As far as Eden Prairie. Eden Prairie has not had the trail system for some time. It's no surprise that they do not want us to coming 1 towards that Eden Prairie direction. As far as Chaska, I believe there's someone here from Chaska... basically looking at the snowmobiling in their community and seeing where it's going to go. It's not been—deal as to whether they will or will not have snowmobiles in Chaska. This trail will be a benefit to Chaska as well as to us as to make it a safer trail and easily accessed to get away from making it a real close resident. As far as cross country skiing. The snowmobile will not bruise the trail. Generally speaking a cross country skier would generally prefer to run on a packed trail, whether it happens to be packed by a snowmobile groomer tractor or a snowmobile. I Andrews: I'd ask that members of the audience to please hold your comments down. We do invite everybody to speak without being interrupted. Thank you. ' 42 , J Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 Leroy Biteler: As a matter of fact the cross country skiers have a grooming system which they groom and compact a place for the skis to run so we will not be ruining that trail. As long as the snowmobiling is allowed in Chanhassen, I'd like to basically keep it as safe and proper as possible and that is one of the objectives that this trail will do for us. I'd also like to maintain a safe recreational activity in Chanhassen as long as possible. Our local club as approximately 73 members. We've been very, very active in the community. Trying to patrol our trail system and the community... Meger: Mr. Biteler, can you speak a little bit more ... about the safety aspects. I believe when you addressed us earlier you talked about how this trail would eliminate a lot of the ditch riding and some of the... Leroy Biteler: Right now our trail system goes down CR 17 to the south to Lyman Blvd and then go to the west, which all of that area right now is ridden in the ditch line. When we get on Lyman Blvd and go to the west, we have to get up onto the shoulder of the road, which is directly at traffic. Our lights must shine directly into the automobiles windshields at night and that is unsafe for both the automobile and the snowmobiler. This route right now would take us, once we get Lyman Blvd from CR 17, we would then go east on Lyman Blvd until we hit the lake. Lake Riley and from that point we can access the railroad bed virtually eliminating the having to run in ditch lines and ... with a number of things and automobiles, we're eliminating that automobiles are a problem with meeting one another. And really it appears to me that there are very few homes that are really very, very close to that railroad bed. In my mind I see a couple of homes, having to drive down that railroad bed, that are close to that railroad bed. Lash: What do you mean by close? Leroy Biteler: I can only see two homes. Lash: Are they right next to it or is it 200 feet away or? Leroy Biteler: One of them is probably 125 feet away. The other one happens to be the house which is right on the edge of Lake Riley that has some horses in a fenced in area. That is probably 200 to 300 foot. We actually don't cross their properties... that part of the railroad bed. It's closer to the Eden Prairie side. Hoffman: Chairman Andrews, this overhead references what Leroy was discussing. I should inform the audience that the dashed line represents the trail which is marked on their plan. This dark line here is not a part of their plan. I just showed it for illustration purposes to show what they're asking for this evening. 43 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 Andrews: Anyone else from the audience. Pardon me, are you done Mr. Biteler? Leroy Biteler: No, I'm done. I Andrews: Okay. Anyone else with comments, I would again beg that you keep them brief. We have a very long agenda tonight and we need to get through as much as we can. Dick Putnam: Mr. Chairman, my name is Dick Putnam I don't live here but in just listening and we have a bit of experience. ' Huffman: Where are you from? Dick Putnam: Wayzata. I have the next item on the agenda, if it helps. A couple things. ' We have leased land in Eden Prairie to the Southwest Trails Association for probably, I don't know 10 years I suppose. Throughout Eden Prairie connecting to Chanhassen for a dollar a ' year or something like that. And I'll give them a lot of credit. We've never had one single problem with them doing that. As the land has developed however, their trails have just gone ' away and we've not had any requests for the last two years. Secondly, we're developing a project on the Luce Line up in Orono which is 46 single family lots. We've got about oh maybe a third of a mile frontage on the Luce Line. I would recommend that the staff , probably talk to the city of Orono and the other communities, Plymouth, Wayzata on out. There are different restrictions on what can be used on the Luce Line depending upon where you are. As it stays further out, the further west you go, the more activity is allowed. So ' snowmobiles are only allowed as you get to the far end of it. I think you would probably be well...to look at the requirements that those cities have along the Luce Line ... in Eden Prairie, we have a development on either side of this same trail and probably a half a mile of ' property... We have looked at that trail as an asset. Not as a light rail corridor but as...same thing is true with the Luce Line. Those folks I know were very concerned about having a trail in their back yard but if it's maintained properly and developed properly, from a ' developers standpoint... Andrews: Any other comments from the audience? ' Bill Kullberg: My name is Bill Kullberg. I'm the Trail Coordinator for the Southwest Trails Association and I live at P.O. Box 34, Navarre, Minnesota 55392. I'd just like to discuss a few things when we were talking about a railroad corridor. Even if Chanhassen does... non- profit corporation. We were organized by 8 clubs in the southwest area at this time and... We have the funding available to make this a multi- purpose trail so everyone gets to use it. Whether you're a cross country skier or hiker or biker, horseback riding and so forth. We put up stop signs. We have the availability of doing any of the landscaping and correcting of any M L I Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 of the steep slopes ... In the city of Shorewood, it's a highly dense populated area. There's a lot of traffic coming off of Lake Minnetonka feeding into our trail system and we've been working with that city very diligently since about 1985. We still have a trail in a highly populated area. We have a curfew there at 11:00. There's no motorized... there's a 20 mph speed limit. For the last couple years now there have been more than a couple of complaints per year now and the cops are down there with radar so there is ability to take care of these kinds of problems. We do not allow 3 wheel vehicles or ATV on our trails. I believe the Carver County Sheriff's Department has a special unit now. They have two snowmobiles and they have ... in fact they ask us for different activities that they can participate or trail patrolling and so forth. They have two Polaris snowmobiles and seeing that this trail goes right into Chaska along TH 212, and their Sheriff's office is just about a stone's throw away from the trail up in Chaska... We also have a conservation officer...Thank you. Andrews: Anyone else? Resident: I'll be brief. My name is ... regarding cross country skiers concerning the packed trails by snowmobiles... And the other one is the... Andrews: Thank you. I'm going to cut off any more comments at this time. We've got to take action or we'll be here until tomorrow morning. Any comments from the commission members about this? Manders: I guess initially I had, after reading the material, I was contemplating something along the lines of some type of yearly review of motorized vehicles but from what I'm hearing, I'm prone to vote against any kind of motorized activity on this trail. Roeser: I guess I really kind of, my heart goes out to the snowmobilers. It's a legal activity and those people do hold licenses. They do pay fees to ride those things and I supposed it's the same old thing. There's a few people that screw everything up for you guys and that's kind of sad. I noticed over the last couple years that they've gotten quieter. You know you don't hear the roaring. I cross country ski and I don't think we can, I think we'd have a real problem with cross country skiers and snowmobilers on that trail. Especially when you get... there is some danger there so I don't know if you'd be willing to accept speed limits on a trail like that. I really have a, I really can't make up my mind when I think about it. I don't see the snowmobilers as the villains that all these people do. I don't see them as, you know they irritate me a little bit out in the woods too because I can smell the gas you know, but golly it's a legal thing and it's something we sell. It's an economic thing. I guess I would like to look at it a little more. I can't decide right now whether I would want them or not. 45 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 1 Andrews: I'll be brief because I want to get home before tomorrow morning. I do not support motorized vehicles on this trail at all, in any form. That's it for me. Huffman: No motorized vehicles during the summer at all. There shouldn't be motorcycles, ' 3 wheels hanging around there. I like snowmobiling. I make no bones about it. You're in the winter. Your houses are closed. It's the doppler effect. It goes ... go by. Or we also have ' a right to have other people in your neighborhood hear about that so if we do anything else I'd recommend that we move to put this forward so that other people can talk about. The Hennepin County corridor here it says, in their minds we've got...but however it should not ' be construed that cross country skiing will not be allowed and I cannot consciously think that even if you're 20 mph, somebody on a pair of skis loses to somebody on a sled. And I love snowmobiling as much as anybody and I cannot in my mind allow that to happen. If there's people walking about or potentially walking about, you can't have a sled there. Meger: I agree that there be no motorized vehicles in the summer. I guess I lean a little bit , more towards allowing snowmobiling on this trail. I'm not a snowmobiler. I'm a cross country skier and from what I know of the area, there seems to be a lot of nice trails for cross country skiing and the snowmobilers continue to be shut out and I have concerns about ' their riding in the ditches. Lights shining into my eyes as I'm driving so I would prefer to have something on a trail. I would definitely go for a curfew. I would probably move it even to maybe 10:00 and definitely a speed limit as well. Lash: I want to try to remember that our responsibility here is to provide recreational opportunities for the citizens of Chanhassen and that is currently an allowed activity and it is really feeling the squeeze from development. The more the city develops, the fewer spots there are for snowmobilers to go. And unless we would decide to ban snowmobiling totally ' from the city, I think it's part of our responsibility to allow a safe place for them to do this. Now I have concern with cross country skiers too but as Jane said, I think that there are more opportunities for cross country skiers so I would support the snowmobiling on the trail. I ' would not support summer activity because I would like the summer activity to remain the walkers and bikers and joggers. And I would definitely want it to be defined with hours and speed limit and I would want it to open for review. ' Andrews: Why don't you make a motion and see if it will fly. Lash: I would move that we allow snowmobiling as the only motorized activity on this trail ' with the conditions that the snowmobile club would sign it and that there would be enforcement of the speed limit and that there would be a curfew and that we would review ' this item yearly. 46 F Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 I Andrews: Is there a second to that motion? ' Meger: Second. Hoffman: And the clarification of Commissioner Huffman... whether or not it would be cross ' country skiing or snowmobiling. Hennepin Parks ... and maintain this for cross country skiing in their operation because they do that at many of their regional park facilities. Thus they do not want to do that. If the city of Chanhassen is going to ... if you would like to designate it ' as a snowmobile route, and then appeal to the other cities, obviously you have to consider the city of Eden Prairie if you want to make this route occur and then you have to have it approved by the Hennepin Parks Board. You can do that as well... ' Andrews: I don't think Jan intended to exclude cross country skiers. 7 J Lash: I don't look at it as a compatible use. Andrews: You would like to see this as a snowmobile trail, designated trail, okay. Resident: So I just need a little clarification here. You say in the winter time you only want that to be available for the snowmobilers? Lash: Well I guess I don't look at it as compatible with cross country skiing but if people want to cross country ski, I guess I wouldn't personally have a problem with that. Resident: Assuming they don't get killed, right? Lash: Right, and that's my fear. What's why I'm saying personally I don't think it's compatible. I would worry about the cross country skier and snowmobiling... Resident: So let me ... you're voting to make it a snowmobile trail during the winter ... is a form of recreation. Do you think there's more snowmobilers than cross country skiers? Lash: I said there are a lot of other opportunities for cross country skiers. Resident: Where? ...in Chanhassen. Andrews: Please, order here. It's late and it's going to get real late here if we don't control this. Resident: Just clarification. I understand what you're voting on. 47 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 1 Resident: Obviously the citizens of Chanhassen who own property don't matter. I Huffman: Absolutely. I Lash: There is a motion. , Andrews: We have a motion and I think we're all free here to state our opinions as we wish and I think you're jumping to a conclusion here that we have certain opinions here so let's wait and see what the discussion is. Could you restate the motion please. ' Lash: Okay, the motion is that we would allow snowmobiling with the conditions that the snowmobile club would post it, sign it. There would be enforcement of speed limit and a , curfew and there will be no other recreational vehicles allowed on this trail in the summer. Andrews: No motorized vehicles other than snowmobiles in the winter time only. , Lash: Other than snowmobiles. ' Andrews: And I believe what you're saying is that this trail would be designated a snowmobile trail but cross country skiers would not be prohibited but they would not be recommended. ' Lash: Right. Andrews: Okay. That's I think what we're getting at here. Is there any further discussion ' from the commission? ' Huffman: I would almost like to see this moved forward so the neighbors could, you know we've got a group of people here tonight who, I mean the association is well organized. I mean they're documented. They have done an outstanding job in the community. They do a ' phenomenal job with their trail system and everything. We also have a neighborhood over here who feels like they have been almost railroaded into this meeting and ... but I would almost like it to move forward for another time so they can sit back a little bit and maybe , have the people do care a little bit, and have an opportunity to... Andrews: Our action tonight is not formal action. It would then be moved up to Council I , believe, correct for formal recommendation to the Hennepin County Road? Hoffman: Yes. ' 1 48 I Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 Andrews: Okay. So there'd be another opportunity even if we vote, not in the way you would prefer us to vote if it's your... Any more discussion? Lash moved, Meger seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission would recommend to allow snowmobiling as the only motorized activity on the Southwest Regional LRT trail with the conditions that the snowmobile club would sign the trail, there would be enforcement of the speed limit and curfew and that the Park and Recreation Commission would review this item yearly. The motion was tied with a 3 to 3 vote. The motion failed. Andrews: Does that mean it carries Todd, or fails? Motion fails. Okay, so that motion failed. Can we have another motion? I think it probably could split here, which would be no recommendation at all, which is acceptable. I guess I'll make a motion that motorized vehicles be prohibited for the trail. Is there a second to that? Manders: I'll second that. Andrews: Any discussion to that? Andrews moved, Manders seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission would recommend to prohibit snowmobiling on the Southwest Regional LRT trail. The motion was tied with a 3 to 3 vote. The motion failed. Andrews: Okay, I guess then I'll say it right now. We have no recommendation to be made. We'll have to pass this up to the Council and say that the Park Board is split. We're not going to get any farther tonight by beating this to death so, thank you. 1 LAND DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL: -PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR PROPERTIES ZONED RSF TO PUD (46.56 ACRES); PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR 74 LOTS OF MIXED HIGH DENSITY (186 DWELLING UNITS), 15 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND AN OUTLOT WHICH WILL CONTAIN DWELLING UNITS; AND VACATION OF A PORTION OF WEST 86TH STREET. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF HIGHWAY 101 AT WEST 86TH STREET. MISSION HILLS. TANDEM PROPERTIES. Todd Hoffman presented the staff report on this item. Andrews: Mr. Putnam, if you'd like to address the commission. Again I would ask, and I'm sure you will, keep your remarks brief. !e t Park and Rec Commission Meeting - June 28, 1994 1 Dick Putnam: Well I guess at this point Mr. Chairman, I would ask, let me just quickly... There was one other issue that was discussed at the last meeting, which was almost a year ago. Hopefully you can all see this. This is the proposed TH 212 corridor. Here's the proposed park on the south end of Rice Marsh Lake with TH 212 to the south. And our project sits in here just to the east of TH 101 and the TH 212 freeway on the south. Another area that was discussed was this parcel, or actually two parcels south of the extension of 86th. ' It's currently an open field with kind of gently rolling and there's a little drainageway that goes through here and then down into lake and a marsh that we share on our property. The discussion was whether or not that property if combined with the wooded portion makes ' sense as a future park, particularly with the highway department purchasing this land as it conceivably could purchase it all the way up so they didn't have to sever the Klingelhutz property to the south. And that was a discussion that the city was going to look at, whether ' or not they would do it. Whether the highway department would be doing it to provide some green field recreation space. I'll let Todd respond to that. I don't think there's any definite answer that we have because TH 212 is, lord knows what's going to happen with it. That ' was one of the issues that was discussed in dealing with the open play field space. This is a plan that we discussed with the City Council last night. Basically a couple things to respond to the staff's concerns relative to the amount of playfield space or open space. What we ' looked at is a temporary pond that's being built here that's about a half acre in size that will eventually go away and that water will be taken down to a major pond the city's going to be building along TH 101. Also an area right through here that's about a .8 of an acre adjacent ' to the wetland in the southeast corner of the site that has a hill and then some open field space on the top and a nice pretty area along the marsh. Also there's a field space here, about a .4 of an acre of so that we had proposed as berming but we'll develop this just a ' grass field area at this point with plantings around the edge as well as a developed totlot. We have a concrete sidewalk that runs on Street A, north/south. There's a trail system along the south side of the street. Whether it's bituminous or concrete, I guess that's your choice or the ' city's. We'll be doing an asphalt trail system here as opposed to wood chip and we'll also do either limestone or wood chip trail system here and connecting in a loop. It also will connect to this site as it turns into a park. I guess with that Mr. Chairman I'd be happy to answer any ' questions. The plan is really the same as what was proposed previously with the addition of those areas. ' Andrews: Any comments? Lash: I would like to hear the comments from the City Council last night. Hoffman: On behalf of both the Planning Commission who reviewed this at the preliminary ' stage, the preliminary plat and the City Council, it would be fair to say that they were 50 July 28, 1994 Mr. Todd Hoffman Park Director City of Chanhassen 690 Coulter Drive Chanhassen, MN 55317 HENNEPIN COUNTY REGIONAL RAILROAD AUTHORITY Southwest Street Level Government Center Minneapolis, MN 55487 -0016 Phone: (612) 348-9260 FAX: (612) 348 -9710 Re: Permit Agreement Al2304 Parcel 73 -33051 Dear Mr. Hoffman: Enclosed is your fully executed copy of the above - referenced permit agreement. If you have any questions regarding this agreement, please call me at 348 -8089. Sincerely Larry L. O ell Right of Way and Special Projects LLO /sw Enclosure RECEIVED i U L 2 1994 CITY OF CHANHASbEiN BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS Sandra Hilary Peter McLaughlin Mike Opat Randy Johnson Mark Andrew John Keefe Emily Anne Staples Chair Vice Chair Treasurer Secretary Agreement No. Parcel 73 13 _> / PERMIT AGREEMENT 1 THIS AGREEMENT, entered into by and between the HENNEPIN COUNTY REGIONAL RAIL AUTHORITY, a Minnesota political subdivision ( "Permittor ") and , the CITY OF CHANHASSEN, a Minnesota municipal corporation ( "Permittee "). ' IN CONSIDERATION OF THE COVENANTS BY AND BETWEEN THE PARTIES, IT IS HEREBY AGREED: 1. PREMISES. Permittor hereby agrees to grant certain rights and benefits , to Permittee hereinafter described with regard to that certain real property located in ' Hennepin and Carver Counties, Minnesota, described as follows: The center 16 feet generally conforming to the track bed of ' all that part of the HCRRA right -of -way, formerly the ' Chicago and NorthWestern Transportation Company's right - of -way from Bluff Creek Drive in the City of Chanhassen southwesterly to Mile Post 32 in Chaska westerly of U.S. ' Highway 212 in Carver County. The said real estate shall be hereinafter described as the "Premises." 2. USES. The Premises shall be for the use of Permittee, its agents, officers, , employees, subpermittees, and invitees for trail purposes only, including but not limited to pedestrian use, cross country skiing, and the riding of horses, bicycles, and other vehicles, and for all uses and requirements necessary to the enjoyment of the Premises ' for said uses. Permittee shall be granted temporary use of adjacent lands controlled by ' Permittor as reasonably required for construction and maintenance of the Premises. RECEIVED ' j u 18 1994 CITY OF CHANHASSEIJ 15794 06/17/94 3. TERM. The term of this permit shall be for an indefinite period, commencing on the date of Hennepin County Regional Rail Authority ( "HCRRA ") approval until termination in accordance with paragraph 4. ' 4. TERNIINATION. Either party may at any time terminate this permit by giving thirty (30) days' written notice of its intention to do so. Such notice may be served ' upon the Hennepin County Regional Rail Authority by delivering a copy thereof to the Executive Director of the principal office in the Hennepin County Government Center, Minneapolis, Minnesota 55487 or by depositing the same in the United States Post Office directed to the Executive Director of the principal office. Such notice may be served on the City of Chanhassen by delivering a copy thereof to its City Manager at the Chanhassen City Hall, 690 Coulter Drive, Box 147, Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317. Except as provided herein, this agreement may not be terminated or revoked by either ' party hereto. 5. TEMPORARY NATURE OF USE. Permittee acknowledges that the Premises was acquired by Permittor specifically and solely for the purpose of constructing ' a light rail transit system or other permitted transportation uses and its associated facilities ' and that it is Permittor's intention to allow Permittee to use the Premises only until it is needed for that purpose. Nothing in this permit shall be deemed to evidence any change by Permittor of its intended use of the Premises for light rail transit purposes or other permitted transportation uses. Rather, Permittor has agreed to the terms of this permit to provide a temporary use for the Premises during the time required for further planning and development of the light rail transit system or other permitted transportation uses. 15794 06/17/94 2 6. RIGHTS UPON TERNIINATION. On the expiration of thirty (30) days after such service of said notice, this permit and all rights hereunder shall thereupon ' terminate and be at an end, saving and excepting such rights as may have accrued to et e party h r art hereunder prior to such termination. Permittee shall without further notice ' or demand, deliver possession of the Premises to the Permittor at the expiration of said thirty (30) days and shall before the expiration of said thirty (30) days, remove all , buildings and property placed upon the Premises which it may desire to have the right to remove. If Permittee fails to remove buildings and property, its right shall, at the option , of the Permittor, cease and Permittee's interest thereto shall be forfeited and at the same time shall belong to Permittor, or in such case, if the Permittor shall elect, it may, at any 1 time after the expiration of said period of thirty (30) days, tear down and /or remove any or all such buildings and property at the expense of Permittee without any liability for , damages thereof in any respect whatsoever and Permittee shall thereupon promptly ' reimburse Permittor for all expenses incurred by it in doing so. 7. RENT. Upon any such termination of this permit, rent shall be paid by the Permittee to the date of termination fixed by said notice at the rate of $1.00 per year. ' 8. OTHER USERS. The HCRRA shall assume responsibility for securing ' such permissions as may be required from the Minnesota Department of Transportation ' in connection with this permit. In addition, Permittor shall use its best efforts to terminate or amend any permits or leases, or other written permission to the Premises which may previously have been extended to others by Permittor and which conflict with this permit. I 15794 3 08/17/94 ' 1 1 9. SUBPERMITS. Permittee shall have the right to grant permits to subpermittees on the same terms and conditions and for the same uses as are contained in this permit. The Permittor shall have the right to review and approve said subpermits, but such approval shall not be unreasonably withheld. Said subpermits may provide for the survival of such subpermits by consent of Permittor in the event of any failure to perform on the part of Permittee. 10. SIGNAGE. Permittee shall maintain signage, including kiosks, on the Premises identifying the Premises as a temporary trail corridor of the City of Chanhassen. Any such signage must receive the prior approval of Permittor and also identify the HCRRA as the owner of the corridor and that the corridor is reserved for light rail transit or other future transportation uses. 11. NUISANCE. Permittee shall not permit the existence of any nuisance on said Premises. Permittee at all times shall keep said Premises clean and shall comply with all laws, ordinances, and regulations respecting Permittee's business and use and occupation of said Premises. Permittee, at its sole cost, shall make any and all improvements, alterations, repairs and additions, and install all appliances required on said Premises by or under any such regulations, ordinances, or laws. No bills, posters, or advertising matter of any kind shall be posted on said Premises provided, however, that Permittee may post on appropriate structures, informational materials relating to the trail. 12. UTILITIES, TITLE. Permittee accepts said Premises subject to the right of any person, firm, or corporation, including the Permittor inn and to any existing 15794 06/17/94 4 r telephone, telegraph and /or other wires, poles, and facilities of any kind whatsoever, whether or not of record, and should it at any time become necessary because of I Permittee's use of the Premises to relocate any of said poles, wires, or facilities by reason of this P ermit, Permittee shall bear and pay the cost of so doing. Permittee also accepts said Premises subject to any want or failure at any time of Permittor's title to said Premises of any part thereof and Permittee shall assume I any damages sustained by Permittee in connection therewith. Permittee also accepts such Premises subject to rights of any party, including Permittor, in and to any existing ' roadways and easements. Permittee agrees to provide to Permittor or other tenants of ' Permittor access over and through the Premises on these roadways and easements should ' such access be deemed necessary by Permittor. Permittee accepts said Premises subject to the right of Permittor, its employees, agents, and contractors to walk upon said Premises to repair adjacent property and the right of Permittor, its employees, agents, and ' contractors to temporarily place equipment upon the property at Permittor's own responsibility and risk for the purpose of maintaining, repairing, or inspecting or constructing upon Permittor's adjacent property. , 13. INDEMNIFICATION. Permittee shall defend, indemnify, and hold ' harmless Permittor, its commissioners, officers, agents, and employees from any liability, claims, demands, personal injury, costs, judgments, or expenses, including reasonable attorney's fees, resulting from directly or indirectly from an act or omission of Permittee, ' its agents, employees, customers, invitees, subpermittees, or other occupiers of the I Premises. 15794 5 06/17/84 Permittor shall not be liable to Permittee or those claiming by, through, or under Permittee for any injury, death, or property damage occurring in, on, or about the Premises based upon the construction, operation, or maintenance of the Premises by Permittee or any subpermittee, nor for the loss or damage by reason of the present or future condition of repair of the Premises, or for the loss or damage arising from the acts or omissions of Permittee, its agents, employees, customers, invitees, subpermittees, or other occupiers of the Premises. ' 14. INSURANCE. Permittee further agrees that if in any case the release and indemnity provided in this section shall not be valid, Permittor shall have the full benefit of any insurance effected by the Permittee upon the property injured, destroyed, or damaged and /or against the hazard involved; and Permittee agrees that any and all such ' insurance shall be so written that the insurer shall have no claim or recourse of any kind ' whatsoever against Permittor in connection therewith. 15. WASTE. Permittee, in consideration of the permitting of the said ' Premises as herein rovided hereby covenants and agrees to a the rent therefor P � Y �' pay promptly, as above provided, and fully to abide by and perform all and singular the ' conditions, covenants, and agreements herein contained and to be observed and performed by said Permittee and to yield up said Premises unto the Permittor at the expiration or ' termination of this ermit agreement in as good conditions as when entered u P � on. ' g P 16. QUIET ENJOYMENT. Permittor has the right and authority to enter into this agreement and if Permittee pays the rent required hereby and otherwise performs the terms hereof to be performed by Permittee, Permittee shall, during the term hereof, be 15794 6 08/17/94 a entitled to quiet enjoyment and possession of the Premises subject to the termination provisions hereof. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Permittee acknowledges that the rights I provided to it by virtue of the permit are subject to the provisions of paragraph 12. 17. WAIVER. No receipt of money by Permittor from Permittee after any default by Permittee or after the expiration of this permit or after the service of any notice or after the commencement of any suit or after final judgment for possession of I said Premises, shall waive such default or reinstate, continue, or extend the term of this permit or affect any such notice or suit, as the case may be. No waiver of any default of , Permittee shall be implied from omission by Permittor to take any action on account of ' such default, and no express waiver shall affect any default other than the default ' specified in the express waiver and that only for the time and to the extent therein stated. 18. BREACH. It is further agreed between the parties hereto, that if the said Permittee shall breach or make default in any of the conditions, covenants, or agreements ' of this permit, which breach or default shall continue for fifteen (15) days after Permittee's receipt of written notice from Permittor, then it shall be lawful for the Permittor, then or at any time thereafter, to declare this permit ended, and to reenter said ' Premises and take possession thereof, with or without process of law, and to use any I reasonable or necessary lawful force for regaining possession; whereupon the rights and obligations of the parties shall be the same as above specified in the case of termination at the end of thirty (30) days' notice; and it is hereby further agreed and provided that ' any waiver at any time of a breach of any condition, covenant, or agreement of this ' permit shall extend only to the particular breach so waived and shall, in no manner, 15794 7 06/17/94 ' IJ n impair or affect the existence of such condition, covenant, or agreements, or the right of Permittor thereafter to avail itself of same and any subsequent breach thereof. In the event Permittor has to take action for repossession of said property, Permittee, its assigns or heirs shall be liable for reasonable attorney's fees incurred by Permittor. 19. ASSIGNMENT. The benefits and obligations of this permit shall extend to and shall bind the heirs, administrators, executors, lessees, successors, or assigns of the parties hereto, but no interest in this permit shall be assigned, nor said Premises or any part thereof shall be subpermitted, used, or occupied by any party other than the Permittee unless specifically stated herein. Permittor reserves the right to review and revise the rental application to this permit upon any change in the status of this permit, the Permittee, or person occupying in the Premises during the term of this permit or any renewal thereof. 20. EVIPROVEMENTS. Permittee shall be responsible for the construction of all improvements necessary to the maintenance of a trail corridor on the Premises and the maintenance of said trail corridor. Permittee shall also be responsible for the construction of all bridges and crossings deemed necessary for Permittee to maintain the trail corridor. Construction plans, if any, shall be submitted to the Permittor for review and comment. Permittor reserves the right to reject any plans for construction proposed by Permittee on the grounds, in Permittor's sole discretion, that said plans are incompatible with hits future use of the Premises. 21. LAW ENFORCEMENT. Permittee shall have primary responsibility for the promulgation of rules, regulations, and ordinances relating to the Premises. The 15794 g 06/17/94 parties hereto recognize that municipal ordinances and law enforcement may also be involved in regulating the Premises. Permittee agrees to use its best efforts to coordinate , regulation and law enforcement of the Premises with the several municipalities in which the Premises lie. 22. ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. Permittee shall not create or permit I any condition of the Premises that could present a threat to human health or to the environment. Permittee shall bear the expense of all practices or work, preventative or remedial, which may be required because of any conditions of the Premises introduced by Permittee, subpermittees, or invitees during Permittee's period of use, including I conditions introduced by Permittee which affect other lands. Permittee expressly agrees that the obligations it hereby assumes shall survive cancellation of this permit. Permittee agrees that statutory limitation periods on actions to enforce these obligations shall not ' be deemed to commence until Permittor discovers any such health or environmental , impairment, and Permittee hereby knowingly and voluntarily waives the benefits of any shorter limitation period. Permittor shall have the ri ght, but not the duty, to enter upon the Premises , from time to time as set forth below to inspect the Premises for environmental 1 contamination and in the course thereof to conduct soil and groundwater testing. in hours , Permittor may enter the premises during regular business ou of Permittee without p rior notice, and may enter the Premises during periods other than regular business hours either with prior written consent of Permittee or without if Permittor reasonably believes ' that an emergency exists on the Premises. Permittor shall conduct any such inspections 15794 9 08/7 7194 or testing so as to minimize interference with Permittee's operations. Permittor's entry onto the Premises pursuant to this paragraph shall not relieve the Permittee's obligation to pay rent under this permit. 23. COMPLIANCE WITH LAWS, ORDINANCES, AND RULES. Permittee agrees to comply with all laws, ordinances, and regulations of federal, state, municipal, and local government agencies as they apply to use of the Premises. 24. CONDITION OF PREMISES INSPECTION. Permittee accepts the Premises in an "AS IS CONDITION" with no express or implied representations or warranties by Permittor as to the physical condition or fitness or suitability for any particular purpose, express or implied. Permittee is responsible for and has had ample opportunity to inspect the Premises, is familiar with the same, and has determined to its satisfaction the fitness of the Premises for its intended use. 15794 06/17/94 10 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties hereto have signed this permit agreement as of , 1994. Upon proper execution, this agreement will be legally valid and binding. 1 Assistant C, fifty Attorney Date: L '= 5 I9�� Approved as to executi� Assistant C 4nty Attorney _ Date: - -y'f 15794 08/17/94 A CITY OF CHANHASSEN BY:� - Donald �h fie , ayor AND Don Ashworth, City Manager 11 HENNEPIN COUNTY REGIONAL RAILROAD AUTHORITY L " - & N. Knutson Chanhassen City Attorney 1 J CITY OF CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 TO: Park and Recreation Commission FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director DATE: March 16, 1994 SUBJ: Visitor Presentation, Southern Chanhassen Railroad Corridor; LeRoy Biteler I have had the opportunity to meet with Mr. LeRoy Biteler and Mr. Mike Farkas in this regard. We discussed the steps which need to be taken to address this issue. As commissioners will recall, the Hennepin County Regional Railroad Authority ( HCRRA) owns the railroad right -of- way from Hopkins to its intersection with Highway 212 at the Chanhassen/Chaska border. Hennepin Parks holds an agreement with the HCRRA to construct and maintain a recreational trail (aggregate surface) from Hopkins to Bluff Creek Drive in Chanhassen. As referenced in Mr. Biteler's letter, Hennepin Parks is in the process of establishing an operations policy for the corridor. Hennepin Parks has elected to ask the local units of government to discuss which modes of transportation are appropriate for the corridor. We would then forward our findings to their board, who will establish the final operations policy. From Bluff Creek Drive westward to Highway 212, it will be necessary to work directly with the HCRRA. Mr. Biteler will be in attendance at your Tuesday night meeting to discuss this issue with you. How you would like to proceed from here is at the discretion of the commission. If the commission elects to place this issue on a future agenda, staff will inform other trail user ' groups and adjoining land owners of your intentions to formally discuss the use of this public corridor. ' pc: Ken Stevens, HCRRA Del Miller, Hennepin Parks Mike Liddecoat, Carver County Tom Redman, City of Chaska Bob Lambert, City of Eden Prairie MEMORANDUM March 14, 1994 ' City of Chanhassen Park & Recreation Dept. 690 Coulter Dr. P.O. Box 147 Chanhassen Mn. 55317 RE: Rails to Trails (Snowmobile Trails) Park & Rec. % Todd Hofman I On behalf of the Southwest Trail System the Chanhassen Snowmobilers would like to express our interest in the opportunity to be a user of the abandon railroad between Chanhassen and Chaska. We would like to request permission to allow the abandon railroad between Chanhassen and Chaska to be used as a snowmobile trail during the winter months. The Southwest Trails would maintain this trail as we do the rest of the Southwest Trail System. We would like to access the trail at Lake Riley, then travel southwest to connect up to the trail system in Chaska, which also allows us access to the State Trail System in the river bottom area. We have spoken to Del Miller of Hennipen County Parks regarding our interest of using this as a snowmobile trail, he was unaware of this interest. He told us that we must first get approval from the appropriate cities involved, then it would be likely we would get the parks approval. He also requested we talk to the Railroad authority for the trail section from bluff creek to Chaska. We spoke to Ken Stevens of the Railroad authority regarding this issue. He commented that if we get approval through the chain of authority in the order described, it would most likely meet the railroad authorities approval. You might asking why do we want to use this trail ? There are various reasons, besides being very scenic. 1. This would eliminate the trail going south of Lyman Boulevard on highway 17 to Chaska. Chaska must reroute for the 1995 season due to development along highway 17. This is an excellent solution to that reroute. 2. This trail creates minimal residential disturbance. 3. This would be a trail that would not need to be rerouted unless Light Rail is in our near future. 4. Permanent signage could be installed 5. Safer than a road ditch line. f J 1 'I I J I 1 Enclosed is a map showing the area of rail trail we would like to use. We will be attending any necessary meetings to answer any questions and concerns. 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" INNES " 21z z. c ,, t ta VA`L�eY TR S DAHLGREN I 1, a.l N RC. u u le `t c v+L = CAA SOUTHWEST TRAILS •3 t 4 ASSOCIATION 0 CARME_ R: So uTHMST j WELCOMES YOU ... Tull �, , . � P— • ••► o�P• i •• CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MARCH 22, 1994 Chairman Andrews called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Jim Andrews, Ron Roeser, Jim Manders, Jan Lash, Jane Meger, and Fred Berg MEMBERS ABSENT: None STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Coordinator; and Dawn Lemme, Program Specialist I APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Berg moved, Lash seconded to approve the Minutes of February 22, 1994 as amended by Jan Lash on page 14 to the word raffle to rappala. All voted in favor and the motion carried. ' VISITOR PRESENTATIONS: LEROY BTTELER, CHANHASSEN SNOWMOBILERS, FUTURE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION. SOUTHERN CHANHASSEN RAILROAD CORRIDOR. LeRoy Biteler: Thank you. My name is LeRoy Biteler. I am a member of the Southwest Trail System and a member of the Chanhassen Snowmobilers and basically my objective, do I have to stand in front of this? ...My objective is to discuss with you the abandoned railroad tracks that run between Chanhassen and Chaska to be allowed as a snowmobile trail and I ' believe most of you received what Todd sent you in the mail. Have you had opportunity to read that? Okay. Just a little bit about the trail system and myself I guess. I have been in Chanhassen for 10 years and been a member of the Snowmobile Club for the past 10 years ' and have been either President or Vice President about 5 out of those 10 years so I do have some pretty good knowledge and background as to what's been going on in Chanhassen through those years. And the gentleman sitting here is Mike Farkas and he's done a lot of ' the trail work along with myself. Our objective, our main objective is to eliminate, as I mentioned in the letter, some of the trail running south on Highway 17. Get out of the ' residentially type area and onto an area such as the railroad bed that is a better thoroughfare and outlet to the Chaska trail system and to the State trail system in the river bottom area which gets us further out into the residential communities. And I guess I would dust like to ' answer any questions that you guys might have. You certainly understand where our trail would go and start and stop. Park and Rec Commission Meeting - March 22, 1994 Andrews: You're looking for our support for this concept to take it to Hennepin County or who would be the responsible authority here? LeRoy Biteler: We have talked to the Hennepin Parks and the Railroad Authority and asked them of their opinion, if they would allow us to use this trail system during the winter months and they said, first of all our procedure is that you must go to the individual cities and get permission from them and then come to us and then, if the City approves it, chances are down the rest of the road, the Park Authority and the Railroad Authority would approve it. ' Mike Farkas has had personal communication with those people by telephone. Lash: LeRoy, can you get into the access and... ' LeRoy Biteler: Yeah. I don't see Lake Riley on here. That's kind of ... oh okay. Hoffman: This is a trail, comprehensive trail map. Not snowmobile trail maps... Mike Farkas: ...here we are right here. of Lake Riley where you would access it. which is just over the border. Okay, this railroad bed comes right along the edge I It's probably right about in this area right here, Roeser: You can go right up from the lake onto the track can't you? Mike Farkas: Right. It's basically a little embankment but we can go right up from the ice to the track and then down the track which is really nice. And then we can access it, we have a property owner over here that we're trying to connect up with right now to access from there and then come down like this off of this, what road is that? Lyman Boulevard, yeah. And that's where we would access onto the lake and then up onto the railroad bed and that would take us, that would veer around the city as much as possible. LeRoy Biteler: And this takes up, when it connects up to Chaska. Is this railroad bed right there—Okay, this connects to Chaska's trail system right down in here someplace. Roeser: Okay, then you can pick up on the trail by the Courthouse and go east towards Shakopee? LeRoy Biteler: Yeah. And that gets us into the river bottom. It gets us off of CR 17, which Chaska has got to reroute next year because it's just building up along CR 17 tremendously and the same thing's going to happen in Chanhassen. 2 G' Park and Rec Commission Meeting - March 22, 1994 Mike Farkas: And that connects up with the state trail down there so it still gives them access and then they're going to have an access I think out of Chaska. Which they're going out around Chaska too. I think that's what their plans are. Andrews: I have a couple questions and that is, do we have a separate area for the ' "pedestrian" or cross country skier or hiker? Traffic that would be separate from the snowmobiles? Would they be sharing the same path in this situation? Hoffman: The width up there varies but essentially that would be a shared use situation. Andrews: One of my concerns would be that being that's a flat, relatively flat. It was graded ' that way for the railroad, I would think there would be difficulty with speed. I think because it's almost an ideal track for high speed that it's flat and probably level, I would think that a lot of people would find it real interesting to see how fast their snowmobiles would go. I ' guess I'm concerned if there is pedestrian traffic, those people would be in danger. Mike Farkas: That's a possibility but what I talked to Del Miller about, about this type of ' railroad bed. Is most of your cross country skiers won't go on it because they're rather go on a looping type of cross country trail. We had discussed that with him where there is a possibility there would be some cross country skiers on it but most of them do like a looping trail because this trail will basically take them, it's a one way shot out. Straight out and back where they more than likely would like the looping type trails because we did discuss that. That was Del Miller with the Hennepin Parks. LeRoy iteler: You also have frequent intersections crossing TH 101 inbetween each area Y g ' there and this trail, as in other areas, we have a railroad bed that takes us from Highway 7 into Shorewood. From Highway 7 into Victoria. That's also an abandoned railroad bed that we've used as a snowmobile trail for many years. We see probably more walkers on there ' than I have been cross country skiers. But not to say that there's any difference between those two but the skiers don't seem to be using that trail. I don't recall seeing a skier on there. It's not saying that they're not going to be. Mike Farkas: I've seen one or two. ' LeRoy Biteler: I've seen people out walking their dogs and a few joggers on the trail. Not an abundance like we would expect of course during the spring fever times... 1 Lash: On the top of the map that we have on our literature that we received it's got, and I'm assuming that you're going to want to go through Minnetonka and the Luce Line, is that what it's called? 3 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - March 22, 1994 Roeser: No. Luce Line's way ver b Wayzata. , Y Y Y Lash: Okay, what this anyway, it's got an 11:00 p.m. curfew, 20 mph maximum speeds. LeRoy Biteler: That's through Shorewood. I was going to bring that up. Lash: Are you proposing something like that? LeRoy Biteler: Not at this time. Shorewood has proposed that due to all the, it really goes ' through a large residential housing area there and that's why they had proposed that and done that. And we have patrolled that and issued citations and done ticketing and things like that ' and that's something that could certainly be done out here. Meger: One of the reasons that you listed for wanting to use this trail is it's safer than road ' ditch line. If you're trying to access the same area now, how much of the trail that you would be using would you have to go on a road ditch currently? So on Highway 17, how long of that is. , LeRoy Biteler: Oh I don't know. How far is it from Lyman Boulevard, boy let's see. Mike Farkas: Down to Chaska. LeRoy Biteler: Down to Chaska you know. Hoffman: 2 1/2 miles. LeRoy Biteler: 2 1/2 - 3 miles. ' Roeser: And then you have to cross TH 212 right, down there? , LeRoy Biteler: Right. Right at the edge of town. Lash: And how would people access this? Do they have to trailer to Lake Lucy? Or to , Lake Riley? LeRoy iteler: We would be to et access down, we o u to, we o south on CR 17 ' Y �g g g P g to Lyman Blvd and go, take a left which is what, back east again? I have a hard time ' reading a map. Go east, go straight east until you hit the lake. Klingelhutz, John Klingelhutz owns some property there. We have talked to Brian Klingelhutz. We have not been able to reach John Klingelhutz yet. But that would be our access from his property onto the lake. ' 4 Park and Rec Commission Meeting - March 22, 1994 Running the ditch line down Lyman Blvd. Hoffman: The route they currently follow goes down TH 101 to Lyman and goes ... and then heads on down to Highway 212. What they'd like to do is come down TH 101 and then head east and then across the lake, to the railroad bed and on down. Manders: There's also a trail along CR 17 isn't there? Mike Farkas: We'd be eliminating that. Roeser: That's the ditch they ride now. Manders: Yeah, that ditch out to TH 5. From Lyman to TH 5. Mike Farkas: From Lyman we'd still need to use that part. Manders: That's what I'm talking about... Lash: So you're starting at Lake Ann or whatever? Mike Farkas: Yeah, Lake Ann. We use that as a drop site for the people that commute in from Eden Prairie or Bloomington. If we get people from there dropping trailers... Berg: Which part on CR 17 would you be eliminating? Mike Farkas: A part from Lyman Boulevard down to TH 212. Lash: So mostly in Chaska? Mike Farkas: Yeah, mainly in Chaska ... and I don't know if it makes sense to try and eliminate as much of. Roeser: It seems a lot safer to me. Berg: Dangerous stretch at night when you're driving on the road with snowmobilers. LeRoy Biteler: It's even dangerous for the automobile driver. Berg: That's what I mean. E t Park and Rec Commission Meeting - March 22, 1994 1 LeRoy Biteler: Yeah, with their lights shining through. Berg: Very disconcerting to have lights coming at you from three different directions at the same time on a narrow road that's dark. LeRoy Biteler: Yeah. This is a better option for us to reroute and get to an area that you don't have automobile traffic. We don't have... Lash: How about the residential, how many residences is this going to impact? LeRoy Biteler: On the railroad bed it impacts what I can see, one or two. ' Andrews: Is there anybody here in the audience, other than you two gentlemen that wishes to speak about this? Okay. , Hoffman: I can provide that since the time of writing the memorandum I have spoken with representatives from Eden Prairie and Chaska in this regard. Again, to update the commission. From the point at the city of Chanhassen border with Eden Prairie down to Bluff Creek Drive, we would be working with Hennepin Parks as the governing authority. Their Board of Directors. From that point, at Bluff Creek where their agreement with the , Hennepin County Regional Rail Authority ceases to the Chaska border down in here. The Chaska border is actually right here north of Highway 212. You would have to work with the Hennepin County Rail Authority. Tom Redman, Director of Park and Recreation in Chaska called this morning and they're going through some discussions on snowmobiling in their city and they would like to see a trail continuation at this point but he cannot guarantee that at this point. They'll be discussing that in June or July of this year. Eden Prairie we ' thought perhaps that they would allow trail ... up in Eden Prairie. They have done that in the past so some people can get on this trail system but it doesn't look like they're going to allow snowmobiling from Eden Prairie east. So then we would have to make some type of an agreement for the short segment of trail from Lake Riley, which is in Eden Prairie, down to the Chanhassen border. They said they'd certainly work with us in that regard if the Commission chose to do that. Andrews: Is anybody prepared to make a motion to take some action here? , Lash: I make a motion that we place this issue on a future agenda so that it can be open for public discussion. Andrews: Is there a second to that motion? 6 ' J Park and Rec Commission Meeting - March 22, 1994 I Manders: I'll second that. ' Andrews: Any further discussion? Lash moved, Manders seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission place the ' issue of snowmobile trails on the Southern Chanhassen Railroad Corridor on a future agenda for public discussion. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. J Andrews: We will bring it up on a short agenda to get going on this. You need to hear from us by, what sort of time frame to get back to the County? LeRoy Biteler: Well it's the, from what I understand it's the Hennepin Authority and Parks that need to make some decisions sometime this summer and I don't know really what their deadline is. That's why we got the ball rolling now. Andrews: We appreciate that LeRoy Biteler: ...talking about next year's winter but that's why we hope to get ahead of the ballgame and not behind it. Mike Farkas: I stumbled upon it when I was in City Hall talking to Todd—and one thing led to another and I'm going well geez, now I'm already starting on next year. Then I contacted Del Miller and then they said that in June they're talking about what they are going to allow. What they're not going to allow because they have horseback riding people that want to use it. They have several different, full spectrum of people that want to use it and just snowmobiling wasn't even brought to their attention at this point. So what we did is brought it to their attention. We have an interest in possibly using it. Use of this railroad bed. Andrews: Well we'll put it on an agenda. You'll be notified by staff and we'll try to get this moving forward. Thank you for coming. 7 STATE OF H IE ZOO itQ DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES Region 6 Trails & Waterways, 1200 Warner Road, St. Paul, MN 51��,0 PHONE N o. (612) 772 -7935 July 15, 1994 rS Mr. Todd Hoffman City of Chanhassen P.O. box 147 ' Chanhassen, MN 55317 Dear Todd: I It has recently come to my attention that Southwest Trails Association, and the Chanhassen Snowmobile Club, is working with the City in facilitating use of an abandon railroad grade for ' use by snowmobiles. The section they are interested in using extends from Lake Riley in Eden Prairie down to the City of Chaska. Use of this section would connect the Chanhassen's system of trails to the river bottoms area in Chaska. This in turn would connect them to the MN Valley , State Trail, as well as the Luce Line Trail. The previous connection was lost to the club due to increasing development pressure. The Department of Natural Resources works with local snowmobile clubs through the Grant -In- p g Aid Snowmobile program in establishing and maintaining a system of interconnected trails throughout the state. Local clubs are the ones that do most of the work with this program and help to ensure its continued success. The trails are well utilized, and serve as an alternative transportation system. I would like to offer my encouragement, and sincere hope that the City will cooperate with the club in facilitating a mutually beneficial outcome to this project. An abandon railroad grade is ' the ideal setting for this type of use as it is already set up to function as a transportation system. Should you have any further questions regarding the program, or wish to discuss this proposal ' further, please feel free to contact me. I appreciate the City's support of snowmobiling in your area. Thanks again. Sincerely, Martha J. Reger Area Trails and Waterways Supervisor AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER 1 JI_II 7 11 : 2 -4 f1 ..SOU G�i6 �/ -st - 5^ City of Chaska Department of Parks, Recreation and Art TO: Todd Hoffman FROM: Tom Redman RE: Snowmobile and S.W. Regional Trail DATE: June 27, 1994 Thanks for sending a copy of your June 28 agenda. This memo is ust to reiterate that the City of Chaska has yet to decide on snowmobiles and trails to accommodate them in the City of Chaska. The Chaska Park, Recreation, Natural Resources and Art Commission will be starting discussion at their July 11 meeting. We would prefer to have trails leading to and from Chaska to be compatible with neighboring jurisdictions. Please call me with any questions at 448 -3176 xi. 1661 PARKRIDGE DRIVE, CHASKA, MINNESOTA 55318 / 612- 448 -5633 0'^ -ter -1G 15:30 612 337 5151 BRIOL « WILME5 P.02 It is my understanding that there are unique sulphur springs in the area surrounding this and that there may ' be certain types of wildlife and ecosystems in this area that require completion of an Environmental Assessment Worksheet ( "EAW ") before proceeding. I have contacted the Minnesota Attorney General's office and the Environmental Quality Board for purposes of ascertaining the appropriate requirements. They are presently in the process of determining whether an EAW must be completed. If not they have advised that an EAW petition may be filed with their office to determine if an EAW is necessary. I BRIOL & WILMES A PROFESSIONAL PARTNERSHIP ATTORNEYS AT LAW ' 3906 IDS CENTER $0 g0(JTH EIGHTH STREET MINNEAPOLIS MINNESOTA 65402.2203 TELEPHONE (012)337-6410 ' MARK J. BRIOL June 28, 1994 TELECOPIER (61Z 337.6161 Mr. James Andrews, Chairman City of Chanhassen Park and Recreation Commission 690 Coulter Drive P.O. Box 147 , Chanhassen, MN 55317 Deer Mr. Andrews: , I reside at 10377 Heidi Lane in Chanhassen. I live with my fiance and our two children, ages 5 and 1. A good portion of my backyard abuts the path that the Commission is now contemplating converting into a potential walking, biking, and /or snowmobile path. , First, no notice of today's hearing was mailed to me. Another resident of the Hesse Farm development was kind enough to leave a copy of the notice in my mailbox. I have attached a copy of the ' notice hereto. However, I understand that at 6:30 on even date hereof the commission is conducting a "site visit" at the location referenced in the attached notice as well as a public hearing. I would like the Commission to have the following concerns in mind when they visit the site and listen to testimony. 1. Environmental Concorns , It is my understanding that there are unique sulphur springs in the area surrounding this and that there may ' be certain types of wildlife and ecosystems in this area that require completion of an Environmental Assessment Worksheet ( "EAW ") before proceeding. I have contacted the Minnesota Attorney General's office and the Environmental Quality Board for purposes of ascertaining the appropriate requirements. They are presently in the process of determining whether an EAW must be completed. If not they have advised that an EAW petition may be filed with their office to determine if an EAW is necessary. I ' Persons walking on these paths, at night or otherwise, present others with the opportunity to cause physical bodily harm which, because of the ' remote nature of the site, could go undetected. I certainly would not allow my five year old daughter to walk on the path without assurances of proper ' security. What security is being offered to allow IE:31 612 337 5151 BRIOL &. JILMES P.03 Mr. James Andrew, Chairman June 28, 1994 Page 2 2. Safety concerns The Commission should address the following issues before ' the path is opened for any uses. a. Hunting 1 I have, on several occasions, contacted the Carver County Sheriff's Department because of people hunting on my land. My land, as I indicated, abuts up against the old railroad path at issue. Recently, 1 found a hunting arrow with the three razor sharp barbs very near one of my daughter's play areas. I also found a deer blind on my property. I called the Carver County Sheriff's office and reported the incident. On at least one occasion I have also contacted 911 and reported persons shooting guns on my property. I have also found numerous spent shot gun shells on the ' railroad path itself. If hunting continues in the area near the walk path it poses a clear and present danger to anyone ' walking on those paths. Accordingly, before determining an appropriate course of action on this matter the Commission should determine if hunting will continue to be allowed and what police protection will be offered ' to persons using the path. b. Physical Safety There appears to be very little, if any, regular police patrol protection in the area of the path. Rarely, if ever, have I seen a patrol car in my neighborhood and I am concerned that without adequate police protection people on those paths will not be safe. ' Persons walking on these paths, at night or otherwise, present others with the opportunity to cause physical bodily harm which, because of the ' remote nature of the site, could go undetected. I certainly would not allow my five year old daughter to walk on the path without assurances of proper ' security. What security is being offered to allow 1� :31 612 337 5151 Mr. James Andrew, Chairman June 2$, 1994 Page 3 BRIOL & WILMES P. 04 L women to Safely use the path. As you know, ' recently a woman was killed in Moir Park in Bloomington while walking on one of the paths in that park. Unless patrons of the path are assured ' they will be safe it should not be opened. C. Fire Hazards Having additional people using this path causes an increased fire hazard for all the properties surrounding the path. On certain occasions the ' property, in the summer, has become extremely dry. The Commission should determine whether there is adequate firs protection for this area. For example, what is the response time of whatever fire ' station is in the area. Are there adequate fire hydrants available to allow the fire department to respond to and to adequately address any fire. ' d. Drop Offs On the path at issue at various points there are ' significant drop offs or inclines on each side. Small children, snowmobilers, bikers or others could slip off the path and suffer severe personal , injuries. The Commission must consider the issue of placing appropriate fencing or guardrails on either side of the path to protect anyone using the path. It is definitely foreseeable that serious injury could result if this issue is not addressed. e. Path Not Wide Enough , on one occasion during the past winter while I was walking on the railroad path east of Bluff Creek ' Road I encountered snowmobiles racing down the path. Because of the narrowness of the path people were required to move off the path to allow the snowmobiles to pass. The snowmobilers came upon a horse. The path was not wide enough for the horse and the snowmobile at the same time. At this , ,juncture there was no room for the horse to move off the path. It became very skittish and started rearing up on several occasions. The horse kept rearing up and almost bucking the rider off while , the snowmobiles kept tailing the horse. Finally, the horse came to a place where it could leave the path and the snowmobiles passed. I Accordingly, unless the city can assure appropriate safety for people on this path, can assure that hunting will be restricted, will have appropriate safety barriers constructed, will have appropriate fire systems in place and can provide for appropriate ' maintenance, the proposed use for the path is inappropriate and should be left in the same condition as it is. This conclusion can be reached without even addressing the potential environmental ' impact issues. Thank you for ' event you have any hesitate to advise. r MaBJmlh 1262 your consideration to this matter and in the questions with respect hereto please do not Mr. James Andrew, Chairman June 28, 1994 Page 4 Additionally, I am uncertain whether the path is ' wide enough for two snowmobiles to pass each other or for that matter if it is wide enough to comfortably allow persons to pass each other on bikes in the summer or snowmobiles in the winter. The concerns for public safety and potential property damage again must be taken into account by ' the Commission. 3. Litteriny ' Several times a year I walk the back railroad path simply to check the back side of my property. There are always old pop cans, beer bottles and shot gun shells lying on ' the path which I pick up and dispose of. Some of these drop offs however are marshy and water filled at the bottom of the incline. Who is going to be responsible ' for the litter problems created by the increased traffic? Who is going to descend the inclines to retrieve rubbish? Accordingly, unless the city can assure appropriate safety for people on this path, can assure that hunting will be restricted, will have appropriate safety barriers constructed, will have appropriate fire systems in place and can provide for appropriate ' maintenance, the proposed use for the path is inappropriate and should be left in the same condition as it is. This conclusion can be reached without even addressing the potential environmental ' impact issues. Thank you for ' event you have any hesitate to advise. r MaBJmlh 1262 your consideration to this matter and in the questions with respect hereto please do not L. Richard & Karen C. 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HARDER Attorney and Counselor at Law 1025 Hesse Farm Road Chaska, MN 55318 (HAND DELIVERED) Lic. #41166 612/496 -0770 or 612/370 -6900 612/370 -6412 Fax Pursuant to the notice from Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director, dated June 22, 1994 concerning utilization of the "Hennepin County Regional Railroad Authority (HCRRA) Light Rail Transit (LRT)" and the use of motorized vehicles in reference to that corridor, i.e. route, I would like to make the following written submission. ' I became aware of this request and the consideration of it by the City of Chanhassen only serendipitously since I was not a recipient of the June 22, 1994 letter, although the south property line of my residence is contiguous to this route. I purchased this property approximately two years ago with the understanding that the abandoned railroad right of way was strictly for use by pedestrians and non- motorized ' traffic. That fact was a compelling factor in my decision to purchase this property. All of the properties located in the Hesse Farm Addition contain restrictive covenants in their deeds which prohibit the utilization of snowmobiles and other similar type motorized vehicles within the confines of that development, thus clearly stating the perspective of those homeowners concerning such usage. Any allowance of such motorized vehicles on this route would totally change the character of the recreation that was to be provided on this vacated property and would create not only noise pollution for those contiguous to this route but, likewise, create significant and ongoing safety hazards to those who would pedestrian upon it. I strongly oppose any change in the character of the utilization of this route. The proposed change would negate the philosophy underlying the route's dedication. 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HAPPE 425 LAKOTA LANE 445 LAKOTA LANE 495 LAKOTA LANE Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 MEDH N A MONROE TONY J DESANTIS ' DEVAL 535 LAKOTA LANE 565 LAKOTA LANE 612 LAKOTA LANE Chaska, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 VERNE SEVERSON MR. LOIS A. RIESGRAF JAMES SALERUD 675 LAKOTA LANE 720 VOGELSBERG TRAIL 730 VOGELSBERG TRAIL Chaska, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 ' DEBRA L. WENDORG ALLEN ROTHE 740 VOGELSBERG TRAIL 750 VOGELSBERG TRAIL ' CHASKA, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 WILLARD HALVER SORENSEN PROPERTIES JOSEPH NOTERMANN 470 FLYING CLOUD DR J MICHAEL SORENSEN 1205 WEST 6TH AVENUE Chaska, MN 55318 ROUTE 2 BOX 187K SHAKOPEE, MN 55379 BELLE PLAINE, MN 56011 CHESTER J. TEICH CURTIS BARDAL CHARLES MACBLANE 825 FLYING CLOUD DR 10301 HEIDI LANE 10320 HEIDI LANE ' Chaska, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 RICHARD NIEMI HAROLD HESSE JOHN E TRUSHEIM 10460 BLUFF CIRCLE 1425 BLUFF CREEK DR 10341 HEIDI LANE Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 THOMAS NIEBELING RICHARD BUE MARK BRIOL 10360 HEIDI LANE 10361 HEIDI LANE 10377 HEIDI LANE CHASKA, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 MICHAEL REDMOND RICHARD DEE SHERYL HOUGH 10380 HEIDI LANE 1201 HESSE FARM CIRCLE 1225 HESSE FARM CIRCLE Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 I EDWARD MUELLER JOHN FORCE PAUL ALLEN 1251 HESSE FARM CIRCLE 1001 HESSE FARM ROAD 1002 HESSE FARM ROAD ' Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 DANIEL SMITH WM E HARDER MICHAEL G LADD 1020 HESSE FARM ROAD 1025 HESSE FARM ROAD 5102 WEST CAMBRIDGE Chaska, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 VISALIA, CA 92377 HARMEL FRAYNE JOHNSEN TODD J ROGERS ' PAUL 1075 HESSE FARM ROAD 1100 HESSE FARM ROAD 1101 HESSE FARM ROAD CHASKA, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 1 HOWARD NOZISKA BRUCE RECH ROBERT PERRY 1120 HESSE FARM ROAD 1180 HESSE FARM ROAD 1181 HESSE FARM ROAD Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 ROGER BROWN EUGENE JUNKER GARY WEHRWEIN 1200 HESSE FARM ROAD 1250 HESSE FARM ROAD 1301 HESSE FARM ROAD Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 CHASKA, MN 55318 L a KIRK MACKENZIE JOSEPH KANDIKO ARI FUAD , 10420 BLUFF CIRCLE 10421 BLUFF CIRCLE 6645 CHEROKEE TRAIL WEST Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 EDEN PRAIRIE, MN 55344 I LEE ANDERSON RICHARD NIEMI DONALD DUDYCHA 6651 MINNEWASHTA PKWY 10460 BLUFF CIRCLE 6451 ORIOLE LANE ' Excelsior, MN 55331 Chaska, MN 55318 Excelsior, MN 55331 ANDREW GINDER DONALD DUDYCHA DENNIS BARTHOLOW 9821 DEERBROOK DRIVE 6451 ORIOLE LANE 9841 DEERBROOK DR CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 Excelsior, MN 55331 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 JOHN LONSTEIN JOHN REVIER GREGORY LAWLER ' 1559 PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE NO PO BOX 358 9900 DEERBROOK DR MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55427 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 GARY A KOCH DAVID J PELLER JOHN S POULOS 9901 DEERBROOK DRIVE 1819 HAEG DR 7350 BRISTOL VILLAGE CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 BLOOMINGTON, MN 55431 APT #321 BLOOMINGTON, MN 55438 MARY DUHER MICHAEL A BOYLAN RICHARD W DENMAN 9940 DEERBROOK DRIVE 17700 SOUTHRIDGE COURT 5105 FORESTVIEW LANE 1 1CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 MINNETONKA, MN 55345 PLYMOUTH, MN 55442 1 JEFF MICHELL PAUL TAUNTON THOMAS ZWIERS 9961 DEERBROOK DR 10125 CROSSTOWN CIRCL 11111 DEUCE ROAD CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 #310 ELKO, MN 55020 ' EDEN PRAIRIE, MN 55344 LELAND F GOHLIKE EVERETT OLSON WILFRED H JR DAHLKE 11661 MYERON ROAD 1675 FLYING CLOUD DR 1705 FLYING CLOUD DR STILLWATER, MN 55082 Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 VERNON TEICH DAN TESTER TERRANCE BEAUCHANE ' 220 FLYING CLOUD DR 230 FLYING CLOUD DR 240 FLYING CLOUD DR Chaska, MN 55318 Chaska, MN 55318 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 'LEON MESENBRINK LE VERNE M VASSAR ALVIN LEBENS 250 FLYING CLOUD DR 285 FLYING CLOUD DR 460 FLYING CLOUD DR Chaska, MN 55318 CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 Chaska, MN 55318