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CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 25, 2012
Mayor Furlong called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. The meeting was opened with the Pledge to
the Flag.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mayor Furlong, Councilman McDonald, Councilwoman
Tjornhom, Councilwoman Ernst, and Councilman Laufenburger
STAFF PRESENT:
Todd Gerhardt, Laurie Hokkanen, Paul Oehme, Kate Aanenson, Todd Hoffman,
and Roger Knutson
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Gary Roethle 8776 Lake Riley Drive
Jeff & Justin Daniel 1321 Stratton Court
Mayor Furlong: Thank you and welcome. Those here in the council chambers and those watching at
home. For those watching at home, we are trying out a new sound system this evening so for this evening
and for the next few meetings, if there are some mistakes or if you can’t hear people, we apologize in
advance and we’ll do our best to manage the system so that everybody can hear. With that there was one,
I would ask if there are any members of the council, any changes or modifications to the agenda. If not,
one that I will note that was posted earlier and that is at the very end of our council agenda each time we
identify a location where the council and staff may gather after the meeting just for a social event. The
public is always invited. Starting this evening we will be gathering at Brindisi’s Pub, which is a new pub
that’s been established over by the Chanhassen Dinner Theater do that is one change from the published
agenda. Without objection we’ll include that. With that, hearing no other changes we’ll proceed with the
agenda as published, subject to that change without objection. At this time we have a couple of public
announcements to make and I’d like to, I’m going to step down in front. I’d like to invite Todd Hoffman
to join me down there so we can present a Maple Leaf Award.
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS: PRESENTATION OF MAPLE LEAF AWARD TO PARK AND
RECREATION COMMISSIONER JEFF DANIEL.
Mayor Furlong: Well let me just start. Tonight, this evening I have with me Todd Hoffman, as Director
of Park and Rec’s and as importantly Jeff Daniel who is a Park and Rec commission member. Has been a
Park and Rec commission member of the City and tonight we’re going to present him with the Maple
Leaf Award. Jeff Daniel served as a Park and Rec commission member in 2006 to 2012 and served as
Chair from 2008 until 2012. A lifelong resident of Chanhassen, Jeff has a unique perspective of having
participated in the City’s parks and recreation programs as a child and now as a father and throughout his
life. Jeff is a passionate individual. Anybody that knows him will agree to that, and he came to work on
the commission with the intent of doing his part to help make our city better and to improve our quality of
local parks and recreation programs and we appreciate his efforts. During his tenure Jeff volunteered to
work on all the department special events with the annual February Festival fishing contest being his
favorite. Jeff supported the creation of new recreation program offerings including the establishment of
the Rec Center Sports program and the Bandimere disc golf course. Pioneer Pass Park and Riley Ridge
Park were acquired under Jeff’s leadership. These are new neighborhood parks that will serve hundreds
of families in new neighborhoods in our city beginning as early as next year. Jeff also played a key role
in the expansion of Bandimere Community Park and the expansion of the City’s trail system. As Chair of
the Park and Rec Commission Jeff maintained a 96% attendance record and represented the commission
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with enthusiasm and integrity. Visitors were greeted warmly and offered ample opportunity to address
their concerns or interest for the commission. There was never a time when people were not asked to
participate under Jeff’s leadership and that was well received. Jeff mentored new commissioners. Made
a point of making everyone feel at home and participate in the meetings. It is a great pleasure tonight that
we honor Jeff Daniel, a retired Park and Rec commission member with this Maple Leaf Award and Jeff,
on behalf of the entire City Council and residents of Chanhassen, thank you for your service. WE
sincerely appreciate it. Want to get pictures? You have them? We’re good. Alright.
INVITATION TO THE FOURTH OF JULY CELEBRATION.
Mayor Furlong: At this time I would also like to extend an invitation of our upcoming City’s Fourth of
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July, July 3 and July 4 events. Every year it is with anticipation that we look forward to the City’s
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largest community gathering. This event this year will be the 29 annual Fourth of July celebration in the
City of Chanhassen. The celebration has actually become a three day event with activities beginning on
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July 2, 3 and 4. It is sponsored by the City of Chanhassen, Southwest Metro Chamber of Commerce
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and the Chanhassen Rotary Club. On July 2 from 3:00 to 10:00 p.m. will be a family night at the
carnival. Rides will be available for family members that evening. Or for all families, children of all
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ages. Activities will begin on July 3 at 3:30 p.m. and include Business Expo, Taste of Chanhassen,
carnival rides and games, 3 on 3 basketball tournament, camel and pony rides, live music and the ever
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popular street dance with Casablanca Orchestra beginning at 7:00 p.m. On July 4 events start early with
the adult fishing contest. 7:00 a.m. at Lake Ann. Other events throughout the day include live music by
Scarlet Country, games and carnival rides, Taste of Chanhassen continues, classic car show and at 2:30 a
parade sponsored by the Chanhassen Rotary Club. Be sure to stop by the Chanhassen High School to
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check out the Chanhassen Red Birds baseball game that evening on July 4 at 6:00 p.m. and then watch
our spectacular fireworks over Lake Ann at 10:00 p.m. Bring your family, friends, neighbors for 3 days
of fun. I look forward to seeing everyone there. This is truly going to be an exceptional year just with
some of the things I’ve already heard. There’s been a lot of activity in planning going on to make this
really a fun event for all so, and on behalf of all the work that was done for the council we’d like to thank
Todd, your staff. Mr. Gerhardt, all the city staff. I know the fire department has been active and will be
active in the activities as well. The Rotary Club, the Chamber, the County staff as well so a lot of people
have already put in a lot of time and we’re all looking forward to the results of that as we gather for really
a fun way to celebrate our country’s independence. At this I’d like to move forward with our next items
on our agenda.
CONSENT AGENDA: Councilman McDonald moved, Councilwoman Ernst seconded to approve
the following consent agenda items pursuant to the City Manager’s recommendations:
a. Approval of Minutes:
-City Council Work Session Minutes dated May 26, 2012
-City Council Verbatim and Summary Minutes dated May 26, 2012
-City Council Work Session Minutes dated June 11, 2012
Receive Commission Minutes:
-Planning Commission Verbatim and Summary Minutes dated June 5, 2012
-Park and Recreation Commission Verbatim and Summary Minutes dated May 22, 2012
Resolution #2012-34:
b. Approve Resolution Accepting Donation from KleinBank for Senior
Center’s Lifelong Learning Program.
Resolution #2012-35:
c. Approval of Flashing Beacon System Agreement No. 000887M, State
Highway 41 Pedestrian Crossing.
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Resolution #2012-36:
d. Approve Resolution Appointing Election Judges and Establishing their
Rates of Pay.
Resolution #2012-37:
e. Approve Contract for Deed with Roadrunner Diesel Services for old
Public Works Building, 1591 Park Road; Approve Resolution Dispensing with Statutory
Requirements for Review by the Planning Commission of the Acquisition of Real Property.
f. Approval of Amendments to City Code:
1. Planned Unit Developments
2. Non-Conforming Lots
3. Sign Illumination
4. Temporary Signs
g. Approve Amendments to Debt Policy for Post Issuance Compliance.
Resolution #2012-38:
h. Approve Resolution for 2011 Year End Transfers.
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i. Reflections at Lake Riley 2 Addition: Approve Street Name Change of Highland Court to
Reflections Road.
Resolution #2012-39:
j. Approve Resolution Amending the Boundaries for Precincts 1B and 4.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS.
None.
LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIRE DEPARTMENT UPDATE.
Mayor Furlong: We will receive this evening our monthly update from our law enforcement and fire
department so at this time I’d like to invite Lieutenant Jeff Enevold, Carver County Sheriff’s Office to
come forward to the presentation table for the monthly report. Good evening Lieutenant.
Lt. Jeff Enevold: Good evening Mr. Mayor and council. I like the new set up. This is nice. The
presentation table is big. I like it. Tonight I just wanted to update the council on, and the folks watching
at home and the citizens here, an update on upcoming events and kind of reiterate what the Mayor has
said here. It’s hard to believe that next week is the Fourth of July already. Summer’s flying by here.
Again there’s a number of great events planned for all ages. Our office will be there. We’re going to
staff it with full time deputies, reserves, explorers, our posse will be there and the Chanhassen
Community Service Officers are going to lend a hand to us too so. I want to invite everybody to come on
out. There’s a lot of things happening there. We’ve got parades. Classic cars. Carnival rides. Food, fun
and then of course the fireworks for the finale and we’re going to make sure it’s a safe and secure event
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for all the folks that show up there so come on out and have some fun. July 19 we have a Safety Camp
that’s coming up here. This camp is designed for 7 to 9 year olds and it teaches them safety skills to
include bicycle safety, water safety, fire safety, personal safety and then staying drug free so it’s really
designed to develop some lasting relationships with law enforcement, fire department and the public
safety personnel that will last into the future so. I invite all parents to bring their 7 to 9 year olds to attend
the Safety Camp. You can sign up on the new and improved website that Chanhassen has built and it’s a
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great website so visit that and get your child signed up for that. August 7 is the National Night Out.
Each year we join thousands of communities across the nation to observe this and it’s designed to
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heighten crime prevention awareness. Kind of get the neighbors out to get to know each other and then
develop relationships with their law enforcement and fire folks so again you can get more information on
the City website or you can call Crime Prevention Specialist Beth Hoiseth. And the last one that I’ll
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update you on that I’m really excited about is the September 11, the Citizen’s Academy. I’ve put a lot of
work into this and I’m really excited about it. It’s an 8 week course that gives participants an insight into
the challenges and dangers that we as law enforcement professionals face every day. It’s kind of designed
to give them a better understanding of what we do, how we do it and why we do it using hands on training
so I invite everyone who’s interested in that to visit the website. Download one of the application forms.
Send it back to me and we’ll get you signed up for that so that’s what I have for you tonight. Anything
for me Mayor and council?
Mayor Furlong: Any questions of the Lieutenant. No. Very good, thank you.
Lt. Jeff Enevold: Wonderful, thank you. Have a good night.
Todd Gerhardt: Thanks for breaking in the presentation table.
Lt. Jeff Enevold: Was I the first one?
Mayor Furlong: You’re the first one, yeah.
Councilman Laufenburger: Mr. Mayor I’d like to make a motion that we call that the presentation station.
It has much better demonics than the presentation table.
Mayor Furlong: I’m going to rule that out of order at this time. We do have our fire chief with us here
who is never out of order so good evening Chief.
Chief John Wolff: Good evening Mayor and council. I’m really glad I wasn’t the first one at the table
here… Just a brief update tonight. We too will also be, the fire department’s going to be participating in
the Fourth of July festivities. We actually kick that week off though with graduation for 5 of our
probationary firefighters who have each performed 280 hours worth of training, State certifications and
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Fire I, Fire II, First Responder EMT and HAZMAT, and that’s going to be on July 2 so Monday, July
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2 at 7:00 at our Station 1. We’re going to be participating with the Fourth of July parade. The Kidde
Parade the night before. Providing some protection for the traffic control and then with the parade itself
we’ll be, we’ll have our first responders attending and also we’ll be participating in the parade, and we’ll
also have a crew available for medical response for the street dance and of course we’ll be providing fire
protection for both the Minnewashta private fireworks and the Lake Ann fireworks. Year to date calls
are, they’re starting to pick up. I would say that May was more of a normal month and probably the first
month in the year where we saw kind of normal call activities in terms of numbers but we’re still down
17% year over year and quite frankly last year was kind of a lower year too so, calls continue to be down.
Training commitment on the other hand is significantly up and members are spending 4 out of 5 Monday
nights per month or 3 out of 4 depending at the training table and spending a lot of time developing skills,
improving our safety and in addition we’re also hosting a mutual aid live fire training exercise at an
acquired structure in the southern part of the city mid summer so we’re kind of refining dates for that but
we’ll be working with the neighboring fire departments with that training. And finally our officers are
almost complete with a nationally recognized incident management program called Blue Card and
they’ve been working on that since late fall of last year so they’ll be taking the final phase of that program
this summer and we’re very excited about kind of how that’s upgraded our response capabilities so I’ll
take any questions from any of the council.
Mayor Furlong: Any questions for the Chief? No, great. Thank you.
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LAKESIDE BEACHLOT: REQUEST FOR AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
2006-26 TO ALLOW TWO CANOE RACKS, OUTLOTS I & J, LAKESIDE. APPLICANT:
LAKESIDE MASTER ASSOCIATION.
Kate Aanenson: Thank you Mayor, members of the City Council. This item appeared before the
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Planning Commission on June 19 and they did recommend 4-0 to approve it. The application is for an
amendment to a beachlot that did receive approval with the original project so there’s a master developer
which all of the different sub-sets of the Lakeside belong to so this is the master development agreement
that they want to amend the CUP to add for the canoe racks which were left off the original one. The
applicants did request two. They are allowed up to four and we tried to be proactive and recommend that
we just permit the four and a future date when there’s, it’s all built out then there may be a need for that.
Again we think it’s consistent with the original CUP. The amended CUP was mailed out separately but
that is part of the motion that we are recommending for tonight so again this is the site itself. Where the
canoe racks would go. The four racks. They can hold up to 6 on each one so there’d be plenty of
opportunities for them to enjoy it and this did appear last week at the Planning Commission. We did want
to, we got the minutes in and moved this forward so they can enjoy it for the summer so we are
recommending approval. I do have a motion for you and I’d be happy to answer any questions that you
may have.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you Ms. Aanenson. Any questions for staff?
Councilman Laufenburger: Mr. Mayor?
Mayor Furlong: Yes.
Councilman Laufenburger: Kate, do we have recommended guidelines on how a canoe rack is supposed
to be secured and etcetera?
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, they’re pretty standard and it’s under the HOA master agreement that they would
take ownership of that responsibility. Any liability. Anything that’s different than would be in our public
properties but their standard as far as the, I think they’re pretty customized as far as the 6 cycle one and
how they’re set but that’s up to the association and the installation and all that.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay, thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Any other questions? Again this is in conformance with city ordinance.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct.
Mayor Furlong: And everything’s in compliance so no special requests or nothing approaching a
variance or anything like that at all?
Kate Aanenson: Correct. Correct. Just amending what they could have had.
Mayor Furlong: Just going through the process.
Kate Aanenson: Right.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. If there is no other questions, any discussion? At this time a motion
would be in order. Councilman Laufenburger.
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Councilman Laufenburger: I’d be happy to. Mr. Mayor I move that the Chanhassen City Council
approves the amendment to the Conditional Use Permit for the Lakeside Beachlot to add canoe racks and
adoption of the attached Planning Commission Findings of Fact.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman McDonald: I’ll second.
Mayor Furlong: Motion’s been made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion?
Councilman Laufenburger moved, Councilman McDonald seconded that the Chanhassen City
Council approves the amendment to the Conditional Use Permit #2006-26 for the Lakeside
Beachlot to add up to four canoe racks and adoption of the attached Planning Commission Findings
of Fact.All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of4 to 0.
RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (PUD-R) AMENDMENTS: REQUEST TO
AMEND THE FOLLOWING RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS: MISSION
HILLS (WITH REZONING TO RSF), SARATOGA ADDITION, SOUTH LOTUS LAKE,
SOUTH LOTUS VILLAS, TRIPLE CROWN ESTATES, WALNUT GROVE, WESTERN HILLS,
AND WILLOWRIDGE. APPLICANT: CITY OF CHANHASSEN.
Kate Aanenson: Thank you Mayor for reading all those for me. This group three as you just indicated
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has 7 different neighborhoods so we had a neighborhood meeting on May 8 at the Chan Rec Center. We
had 20 people in attendance and the meeting notices we explained showed how to get to the City’s
website and provide additional information. At all of our meetings we’ve been having a laptop there.
We’re showing people how to go to the County’s website to get additional information. Showing our
residents information that we have on our website for, if they want other information of what’s going on
in the City so it’s been a great opportunity to meet with our residents and also they enjoy, we have aerial
photos of each neighborhood so I think they’ve really enjoyed looking at their neighborhood and kind of
seeing what’s going on so that’s been a real positive thing to do. So again as we stated before it’s not our
intent to up zone any property at this time. It’s really just to provide the codification and get that
underlying zoning district. Having said that, these are the neighborhoods that we’ve done. In your packet
there’s a lot of information on the Mission Hills development and at the Planning Commission the
property owners, the Klingelhutz’s representing Mission Hills, the commercial piece is all part of that
PUD. We put a lot of information in that and some of it kind of got beyond what we believe was the
scope of the rezoning part, specifically access onto 101. At the time that they negotiated with MnDOT
that was, the City had jurisdiction over 101. Now the County does so we put some of that background in
there. In working with their attorney we agreed that we would go to the new PUD standards which we
hadn’t done in any rezonings because that did give them some relief, specifically again some of the noise
walls but that PUD standard said that they would have to bring in a project for you as a council to go
beyond that. They wanted some agreement on that. Obviously we can’t make that recommendation
without the project in front of the council and I recommended against that and advised their attorney that
maybe the best thing to do is just not to change anything at this point and that we can address that at a
future date so that’s what we did so I did hand out to the council the original PUD. There are a few minor
changes but nothing affecting really the commercial piece, and I’ll go through those in a minute. So the
Mission Hills itself, as you can see there’s the condominiums. A couple different products within the
Mission Hills. Some single family and the condominium projects itself so there’s Mission Hills Lane,
Mission Hills Drive, Mission Hills Way. Again this would be the commercial piece right in here that
we’re talking about that we’re leaving out of the rezoning. It’s all into one PUD as far as making
significant changes that were requested and that goes back to the flexibility that we put into the PUD
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standards. We had much greater setbacks but we’re not going to address it at this time. We’re going to
wait til that project comes forward. So again the request on this was to rezone the 7 acres of detached
single family home and that PUD to RSF. They meet all the standards of the Residential Single Family
zoning district. Again it makes it easier for homeowners then to navigate what they need to do when they
want an addition or selling their property and the 16 homes there. And then the Mission Hills lot
requirement for the rest of the condominium association. We’ve got a minimum lot of 2,100 square feet
of lot width. That’s again over time we know that these are the least flexible product as far as change.
People in single family homes are the ones that are adding on, additional garages, screen porches, those
sort of things. These products are the types of units are the least amount that would change so they’re
kind of within that building envelope. So the standards that are in this, again we left. They wanted some
of that flexibility so we’re not changing any of the standards in the commercial part so the PUD buffer
ordinance is in place here. And then the two changes that we are recommending, and this makes it
consistent. This would apply to the commercial piece and that’s regarding LED fixtures. We had specific
language on that. And the only other change that we are recommending in the commercial one is one
that stated that if there’s a question as an interim use would be permitted and that’s in the current kind of
list that we put together for that neighborhood district. Again this is before we had the BN that said you
could go to the planning director and really the interpretation it should be the Planning Commission and
then ultimately the City Council so we are going to strike that language. Other than that we’re leaving
that BN district as when it came back in a number of years ago and they can renegotiate. Anybody can
apply to amend a PUD at anytime so now it’s onerous on them to come back and with a project and ask
for some relief and we would address it at that time. So with that we are recommending approval of the
Mission Hills PUD. I think if it’s okay with you Mayor then we’ve got one motion at the end so that’s
probably the most complex one there as far as.
Mayor Furlong: Do you want questions for that now?
Kate Aanenson: Sure.
Mayor Furlong: If there are any. I don’t know that there are.
Kate Aanenson: If you have any, that’d be fine. Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Any questions on Mission Hills?
Councilman Laufenburger: I do Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: Councilman Laufenburger.
Councilman Laufenburger: There was a, Kate very thorough in the information provided on the
discussion around Mission Hills. The decision to do this PUD amendment at this time, this in no way
precludes the owner of that Outlot E from applying for rezoning or re, yeah rezoning that property in the
future, is that correct?
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, that’s a great question. Yes, any resident can ask for rezoning at any time and
they can go through the process.
Councilman Laufenburger: And specifically their request related to setbacks off of 101 and also the
sound barrier, we’re not changing those setbacks at this time, is that correct?
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct.
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Councilman Laufenburger: Okay. But if they were to make a case with a project we would be able to
consider changing those setbacks at some point in the future.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct and in full disclosure we showed what we gave on the other projects
based on their use. Now this setting is a little bit different. When this item came before the Planning
Commission there were residents that lived in Mission Hills that had some concern. We’ve had some
uses that want to go there and the traffic counts are an issue, and this is a little bit closer to residential than
those other ones so those would all be factors that we would take into consideration but you’re right, it
doesn’t preclude it. It would be project based.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay, and the same thing is true with a turn in and a turn out which is on 101.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct.
Councilman Laufenburger: That potentially could be modified at some point in the future.
Kate Aanenson: Absolutely. Yep, and whatever the County would agree to based on what the traffic
model is. That’s a separate discussion.
Councilman Laufenburger: Would you say the property owner has a clear picture, a clear understanding
of that?
Kate Aanenson: Yes and no. I think their attorney certainly does and is advising them maybe just to wait
until they have a project. They’d probably have a better chance is what we said too.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay.
Kate Aanenson: Because they wanted to go beyond the ordinance which was what we were reluctant to
do and I think their city attorney, who’s represented them through the condemnation or the acquisition of
the right-in/right-out so he has a pretty good understanding of the process.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay, thank you Kate. Thank you Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any other questions on Mission Hills? Okay. Let’s continue on with the
other ones then and we’ll deal with all of them in a single motion without objection.
Kate Aanenson: Sure, yep. The Saratoga is a low density. The underlying zoning district on this would
be R-4. It’s interesting in this area they got some of these subdivisions outlots got platted without using a
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continuous name although it’s often the same developer so this is the Saratoga 1st and 2 Additions.
Again if you, maybe we didn’t talk about this too much but it used to be anytime you did more than 25
lots it had to be a PUD so that’s kind of the history of all these older subdivisions and getting PUD’s. So
this is the existing neighborhood. This is what we found in the neighborhood meetings is very popular for
our residents to take a look at when we’ve got a big map of these. So there’s 20 single family units and 2
twinhomes up in that neighborhood so the single families are 10,000 square feet and the twinhomes are at
6,000 so the average is 12,500. So with that they meet the criteria of the R-4 and that’s what we’re
recommending. Again 10 on the sides, which is typical. A little bit shorter front yard. Typical rear yard
and 30% in hard cover. So with that if there’s any questions on that one?
Mayor Furlong: Any questions on Saratoga? Hearing no, okay.
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Kate Aanenson: South Lotus Lake is a residential single family would be the underlying zoning district.
Again this is within the shoreland district. I’m not sure if I said how many lots were in there. There’s 40
single family lots. The minimum lot size is 11,700. They meet the standard lot width and lot depth is a
little bit shorter. So the PUD would be our standard 30 in the front, 30 in the rear, 10 on the sides. Again
because they are, those lots that fall within the shoreland district are at 25. The rest is at 30%. There are
some wetland setbacks and those are identified. Again those are the things that we often get when people
are transferring property and want to add on so we’ve got that information at our fingertips. What the
elevation was set with that specific project and we’re maintaining that because they were built to that line
and it’d be difficult to try to change that. So with that, that was that one. If there’s any questions.
Mayor Furlong: Hearing none. Okay.
Kate Aanenson: South Lotus Villas. Those are an attached project and that was done in 1989 so the
underlying zoning district on that would be the R-12 and these are the units here right along Highway 101
and the entrance to South Shore. There’s one 6 unit townhouse and one 8 unit townhouse so the
minimum lot size on that would be 1,184 square feet and again that’s your building envelope so we put
the compliance table in there. Again these are products that we don’t see additions or there isn’t any
room to do anything else on these properties so with that, that would be South Lotus Villas. Are there
any questions on that one?
Mayor Furlong: Questions. Okay.
Kate Aanenson: Triple Crown Estates was done in 1985. The underlying zoning district for that would
be our standard residential single family district. Again it’s on Kerber Boulevard. There’s 56 single
family residential units. The minimum lot size there is 11,300 and these are a little bit narrower as far as
their width. The 70 feet and the depth is 108. So the front setback is 25 again with the narrower width.
A little bit shorter lot. 10 on the sides and 30 in the rear and 30% site coverage. So again that would be
the RSF would be the underlying district. Any questions on that one?
Mayor Furlong: No. Okay.
Kate Aanenson: Walnut Grove, there’s actually three different areas in here. That was done in 1996 and
so there was actually some single family units, some twins and some row houses, kind of single loaded
within that development. So you can see the different product here. The single family homes. Kind of
the single loaded and then the back to back townhouses within that development. So the single family,
excuse me there are 168 townhomes, 44 cottage homes and 35 single family homes. The single family
homes the minimum lot size is 10,400, the cottage homes is 3,400 square feet and the townhomes are the
1,000 so the minimum lot width again is smaller and not as deep on those so there’s standards for each of
the three different product. Again under pinning the three different zoning districts. Again we haven’t
had too many remodels that need variances up in that neighborhood. I think we, based on the product
type that they are able to accommodate what they would like to do up there so with that I’d be happy to
answer any questions you have on that one.
Mayor Furlong: Any questions on Walnut Grove? No? Okay.
Kate Aanenson: Western Hills. Again we’re back in the kind of core downtown area. This one was done
in 1979. This is one of the oldest ones that we did. Again right up here on Laredo, Cimarron, Del Rio.
There’s some really interesting lot lines here. Back then when we pulled permits we found out that there
wasn’t a lot of inspections on where they fell within the setback line so we had some nice meetings with
neighbors who you know well I always thought it was right, the lot line was on the fence post and so we
had very good meetings up there and all very neighborly. So within that one there’s 88 single family lots.
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The Western Hills First and 2 are a little bit different. The minimum lot size on Western Hills is 10,400
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and on the First and 2 which is interesting that you have Western Hills and Western Hills First and 2.
Normally you don’t label them that way that’s how they got recorded so the lot sizes are just slightly
bigger. There’s 80 foot width on the First Western Hills so those are really narrow lots and if you go out
there you would be able to tell that but now that the trees have filled in, those are just great, great core
neighborhoods down there and so they’ve got, both of them have the 25%. The garages back there are
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actually 5 and 10. On the Western Hills, the oldest one, or the First one and then the 2, the First and the
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2 there’s 10 feet, which is our more standard so again when you do a variance on those sometimes you
have to look at which side is the 5 so they want to have 15 foot separation so we look at those but so
there’s actually two standards that we’re under pinning there so any questions on that one?
Mayor Furlong: Questions? No? Okay.
Kate Aanenson: Okay, just a couple more. WillowRidge. ’91. There’s actually three additions there.
Right off of Lake Lucy Road. This one has wetlands and it’s also in the shoreland district. So there’s 38
single family homes. Minimum lot size is 14,000. I just want to back up on this for a second. Back then
when these subdivisions were done, while the lots appear large, the lot lines go out into the wetland so we
always have to advise people, we don’t do this anymore. We haven’t done this for a number of years but
back then they were done that way so while people think they have a 14,000 square foot lot, the buildable
area is significantly less. So they’re always, or sometimes disappointed when they want to do an addition
and they really don’t have any additional room so that’s some of the things we’ve communicated when
we had the open houses. So a little bit narrower minimum lot and because of the shoreland district,
depending on where you are, they have different standards for that and there’s also on this one, it’s in
your ordinance but they have different setbacks depending on where you are within the wetland so again
we got that information and I think that was helpful. We had these, all the ordinances there and people
were able to look it up online and we also have, at some of the meetings emailed people their lot survey
and given them, say it may not be accurate but as the date that this was pulled so the residents have
appreciated getting that information. So with that if there’s no questions.
Mayor Furlong: Councilman Laufenburger.
Councilman Laufenburger: Kate you said at the neighborhood meeting there was, I’m not sure what word
did you use the word confusion about lot size or?
Kate Aanenson: I think, no. I think when they think they had that much lot and not all of it’s buildable
and you can’t, you have a setback from the edge of the high water mark so while their lot may be 14,000,
the buildable area is significantly less than that.
Councilman Laufenburger: Where does that confusion begin do you think?
Kate Aanenson: Well, they look at the area and they have I’ve got, my lot says I’ve got.
Councilman Laufenburger: I’ve got a third of an acre, I should be able to build on it right?
Kate Aanenson: Correct. Right, exactly. Exactly, yeah. So that’s why we don’t do it anymore and also
for the City if we have to get in and maintain a pond then we have to work through 30 people to get
approval to go in and clean out a pond is another reason why we don’t do it.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay. In this case the wetland area, is that in our jurisdiction or is that
considered DNR?
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Kate Aanenson: No. No, but sometimes it goes within a stormwater pond or sometimes we do wetland,
we might do a stormwater outlet or something like that so sometimes we do have to get in stormwater or
wetlands even.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay, got it. Okay. Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Well wetland in this situation I think the wetland is all assigned to someone’s private
property.
Kate Aanenson: Correct. Correct.
Mayor Furlong: And the lots go all the way out.
Kate Aanenson: Right and if we want to fix an outlet then sometimes, and then we’d have to work with
all the property owners so, and you’ll see this in some other ones we’ve got coming forward in the next
go around so.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay.
Kate Aanenson: So it’s just a good opportunity for us to communicate that you know. How we work
through those situations and I explained that to the residents.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay, thank you.
Kate Aanenson: So is that the last one? Yes that was. That was the last one so we are recommending
approval with all the underlying ordinances that you have with the corrections for the Mission Hills, the
commercial piece. Leaving it the way it is with just the two corrections on the LED lights and that the
planning director doesn’t make the interpretation. So with that we are recommending approval of those
PUD’s.
Mayor Furlong: And again question just for clarification on Mission Hills. It is only the commercial
piece that is not changing at all. The other ones are being rezoned consistent with.
Kate Aanenson: Correct, except there was two little, the LED lights and then just the strike for the
planning director’s interpretation for uses.
Mayor Furlong: Alright. Any other questions? Just before we move on, a favor to ask and it’s strictly
just administrative as we prepare the packet. If we have multiple groups like this, if we can have the,
whoever prepares the packet put bookmarks at each of the staff reports just so it’s, just sub-bookmarks
underneath that if possible.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah.
Mayor Furlong: It’ll save our carpal tunnel going back and forth.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, agreed.
Mayor Furlong: Just a minor question. If there’s any other discussion or if there is no discussion, would
somebody be interested in making a motion?
Councilwoman Ernst: Mayor, I’ll make a motion.
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Mayor Furlong: Councilwoman Ernst.
Councilwoman Ernst: I make a motion that the Chanhassen City Council approve the ordinances
amending the following Planned Unit Developments: Mission Hills with rezoning to RSF for Blocks 2
and 3, Saratoga Addition, South Lotus Lake, South Lotus Villas, Triple Crown Estates, Walnut Grove,
Western Hills, and WillowRidge and adopt the Planning Commission Findings of Fact.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman Laufenburger: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Motion’s been made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion? Hearing none we’ll
proceed with the vote.
Councilwoman Ernst moved, Councilman Laufenburger seconded that the Chanhassen City
Council approve the ordinances amending the following Planned Unit Developments: Mission Hills
with rezoning to RSF for Blocks 2 and 3, Saratoga Addition, South Lotus Lake, South Lotus Villas,
Triple Crown Estates, Walnut Grove, Western Hills, and WillowRidge and adopt the Planning
Commission Findings of Fact.All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of
4 to 0.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS:
Mayor Furlong: Any council presentations this evening?
Councilman Laufenburger: I have just a couple Mr. Mayor. I’m pleased that the Chanhassen Red Birds
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are having a very good season and not only do we have a game on the 4 of July but we have two games
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after that that I want to draw attention to. On Saturday, July 7 we will have a game that draws
employees from both the City of Victoria and also from the City of Chanhassen to Storm Red Bird
Stadium. That’s Saturday evening and we will be honored by having a pitch thrown by both Mayor
Furlong as well as Mayor Hershberger Thun from Victoria. The Red Birds are hosting the Victoria Vics
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that night so it should be a fun day. Also Sunday, July 8 is Senior Citizen and Red Bird Alumni day at
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Storm Red Birds Stadium so we expect to have a nice crowd there. And then lastly on part of the 4 of
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July celebration, I don’t think this was mentioned, there will be a Twins clinic on July 3 and that will be
a clinic held at Storm Red Birds Stadium put on by the Minnesota Twins and their youth baseball
program so, and that’s a free clinic for all the residents of Chanhassen and the surrounding and it’s always
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been a fun thing for kids to participate in so three days. July 3 and then the 7 and the 8, the games at
Red Birds Stadium. Thanks Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: Sounds good, thank you. Other council presentations? Any other presentations this
evening? Okay. Let’s move to administrative presentations.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS:
Todd Gerhardt: Mr. Mayor, council members, just a couple of things. One that the public should be
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aware of that our July 9 regular City Council meeting has been cancelled due to lack of agenda items.
The second item is for those individuals that want to get an update on our construction projects, they
should go to the City’s website. Some of the projects are a little behind due to the wet weather we’ve had
but the contractors have assured us that they’ll get back on schedule as drier weather comes down the
line. Second item, in the consent agenda just wanted to make sure the council was aware that we did
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make the change on the precincts. The precinct 1B population will go down to 3,210 from 3,459 and
Precinct number 4 will be going up from 3,728 to 3,977. That change occurred due to misunderstanding
of the map that we had and where that district legislative district boundary laid. We thought it followed
Highway 5 but when you looked at the detailed map that followed Highway 5 and then followed 101 and
the apartments just to the north of Highway 5 and south of 101 were excluded from the district for
precincts so that was the change that occurred there. So that was the change that occurred there. The
State found that error and brought it to our attention and thus the modification. That’s all I have. Any
questions for me?
Mayor Furlong: Questions for Mr. Gerhardt? Couple of things I guess just for clarification. Highway 5
construction you mentioned was one of the many projects that are going on in the city right now but after
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the 4 of July that Highway 5 will be closed to through traffic out to Victoria without taking a detour. At
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some point after July 4, is that still the schedule?
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Todd Gerhardt: That is still the schedule. Work will start shortly after the week of the 4 and to start
with that intersection of Highway and Minnewashta Parkway and also the pedestrian underpass work and
I believe that work was supposed to be done in 6 to 7 weeks.
Mayor Furlong: Alright. Thank you. And then just a couple comments. You mentioned one of the items
on our consent agenda that we dealt with. The other one that I wanted to make mention is that the council
formally accepted a donation from KleinBank for sponsoring the Senior Center 2012 Augsburg College
Lifelong Learning Program so we appreciate KleinBank’s support of our senior center programs. And I
also wanted to make mention too that the, as part of an active this evening the council accepted or
approved a contract for deed with Roadrunner Diesel Service for the sale of the old public works building.
That’s been in the works for a number of years and I just wanted to make mention Mr. Gerhardt, to thank
you and your staff and all involved with working that through. We completed the new public works a
couple years ago and this has been on the market. It’s not been a good time for commercial sales but
appreciate you working with Roadrunner Diesel Services. It’s a new business that’s coming to town and
we’d like to see that and like to see the facility utilized again so thank you for your efforts on that.
Todd Gerhardt: Yeah, and as you mentioned Mayor it’s a new business moving into town and there may
be the opportunity of an existing business expanding as a part of that complex too with Beniek Properties
leasing the out building.
Mayor Furlong: Good point.
Todd Gerhardt: I think there might be a long term relationship between the two so that’s in the future but
it looks bright right now for those two to develop a relationship.
Mayor Furlong: Very good. Thank you. Any other comments for Mr. Gerhardt or his staff? Questions.
CORRESPONDENCE DISCUSSION.
None.
Mayor Furlong: Magically during the meeting my gavel reappeared so while we couldn’t officially open
the meeting we’ll be able to officially close it. If there’s nothing else to come before the council this
evening, is there a motion to adjourn?
Councilwoman Ernst moved, Councilman McDonald seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in
favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0. The City Council meeting was
adjourned at 7:50 p.m.
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Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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