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Hammel Green and Abrahamson, Inc
I Architecture • Engineering • Interior Design
1201 Harmon Place
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55403 -1985
Telephone 612.332.3944
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1 TO: Chanhassen Entertainment Complex File
HGA Commission Number 1139.004.00
FROM: Curt Green
1 . DATE: May 6, 1993
SUBJECT: Notes of Meeting held on May 3, 1993
I A meeting with members of the Chanhassen City Council, Planning Commission, Park
Board and HRA was held on May 3, 1993.
I Don Ashworth began with a presentation of objectives, yes or no vote, and their preference
for general direction of planning. He recommended Number 11.
I presented the three plans, Numbers 8, 10 and 11.
Extensive discussion took place about the following:
I • Bowling alley building
I • Parking for retail
• Access to Seventy - Eighth Street
I • Inclusion of public spaces or multi- purpose space for classes and activities for the
community
• Openness
1 • Interest and reactions within the two school districts
• No referendum
1 • Child care handy for bus stop
I • Cinema near Market Place and Highway 5
- Don then questioned each member present as to their yes /no vote and preferred scheme.
I The majority felt the bowling alley should be retained but modified to be aesthetically
satisfying. Signage should be removed. Plan #10 was frequently referred to, but with
modifications.
1 There was a majority vote for proceeding with a recreation center. Voting on a specific
scheme was inconclusive, but many revisions were suggested.
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cc: Don Ashworth, City of Chanhassen RECEIVED
Todd Gerhardt, City of Chanhassen
Todd Hoffman, City of Chanhassen 1)6' t () 1993
Gary Reetz, HGA CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Hammel Green and Abrahamson, Inc
Architects & Engineers
1201 Harmon Place
Minneapolis. Minnesota 55403 -1985
Telephone 612/332 -3944
Fax 612/332 -9013
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TO: Chanhassen Entertainment Complex
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HGA Commission Number 1139.004.01
FROM: Curt Green
DATE: 21 May 1993
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SUBJECT: Scheme 12 Presentation to HRA
I presented the current plan Scheme 12 to the HRA last evening.
There was general agreement that the concept of this design gave them a basis upon which I
they can now proceed with their negotiating activities. HRA members voted to have a
market analysis and final figures for the total package before taking a final go /no go vote.
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The city will hire Bill a4' (OE G ' �'' Resources) to conduct a market feasibility
study and to advise them on the preferences of the community (i.e., racquetball courts, I
etc.).
Simultaneously, the city will be negotiating with Clayton Johnson (Bloomberg Properties)
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on a land swap and differential amounts that become a part of the project cost. Clayton
Johnson indicated several times that they are assuming no connection between retail on
78th Street and the community center.
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A member of the Planning Commission spoke indicating that they will be submitting some
statements indicating reactions to the program and the plan (i.e., recreational center versus
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community center).
It is my assumption that our continued work on this project will be deferred until the city
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completes its negotiations and evaluations.
Attached is Dick Duerner's analysis of Scheme 12.
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The HRA expressed concurrence that many thoughts of the joint commission/council
1 meeting had been included in Scheme 12.
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cc: Don Ashcroft, Chanhassen
Todd Gerhardt, Chanhassen I
Todd Hoffman, Chanhassen
Dick Duerner, M.A. Mortenson
Kevin Strong, M.A. Mortenson RECEIVED II Gary Reetz, HGA
MAY 2 4 1993
CITY OF Ct>}ANr 1
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1 MORTENSON
The Construction Organization'
MIDWEST REGION
ENTERTAINMENT CENTER Minneapolis Office
' 700 M eadow t.�e North
CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA P.O. Box 710 (55440 -0710)
PRELIMINARY BUDGET Minneapolis, Minnesota 55422 -4899
(1994 CONSTRUCTION) Telephone: (612) 522 -2100
MAY 20, 1993 Facsimile: (612) 520 -3430
The area square footage does not include: '
1. Bowling Center 4. Restaurant .
2. Cinema 5. Retail
3. Scene Shop 6. Connecting Walkway
' HGA
Scheme #12
May 11, 1993
Lower Level 49,036 SF
Upper Level 7.905 SF
56,941 SF •
' 57,000 SF @ $87.72 = $5,000,000
Second Gymnasium
Lower Level 6,825 SF
Upper Level 4.629 SF
11,454 SF
11,50() SF @ 560.00 = $690,000
TOTAL: 55,690,000
Offices In Minneapolis Seattle Denver Colorado Springs Milwaukee Grand Rapids
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CAMPBELL, KNUTSON, SCOTT Si. FUCHS, P.A.
Attorneys at Law
Th, l:.um•I rll (612) 45' - 5000
Roger \ Knutson Fax (612) 452 -5550
Thomas N1. Sort
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James R.'( "alstun
Elliott B. Knetsch
Michael .A. Bnohack
Renac 1') Steiner May 26, 1993
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Mr. Gerald C. Rummel
Attorney at Law
1100 Capital Centre
386 North Wabasha Street
St. Paul, MN 55102
Re: Chanhassen HRA / Chanhassen Bowl Transaction
Your File No. 1964 -3 -- Our File No. 126681227
Dear Mr. Rummel: ,
At your earliest convenience, please advise on your client's
position with respect to selling the Chanhassen Bowl and all
property located therein to the Chanhassen Housing and
Redevelopment Authority. Please specify in sufficient detail the
proposed sale price by listing the investment basis in the '
property as Mr. Dahlin provided to me late last year. City and
HRA staff are looking for a firm commitment from your client in
order to ascertain if an acquisition of the property is feasible.
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Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
Very truly yours
CAMPBELL, 4 TSON, SCOTT 1
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By:
James . Walston
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cc: Mr. Don Ashworth
Mr. Todd Gerhardt RECEIVER
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Architecture • Engineering • Interior Design
1201 Harmon Place
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55403 -1985
Telephone 612. 332.3944
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27 May 1993
Mr. Don Ashworth
' City Manager
City of Chanhassen
' 690 Coulter Drive
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317
Re: Chanhassen Entertainment Complex
HGA Commission Number 1139.004.01
1 Dear Don:
' Todd Gerhardt has told me that another joint meeting of the governmental groups is
being planned. In reaction to the recent HRA meeting questions, I have compiled two
charts that will clarify parking capacities and program/construction costs.
Parking
' Using the "Hoisington" parking analysis format, I have interpolated requirements for the
private and public developments at the peak demand period from 6:00 to 9:00 p.m.
Using a 9' -0" parking space width, it is estimated that we are 33 spaces short. This,
' however, is based on the premise that access to parking is as indicated on Drawing #12
and that Pauly Drive is vacated as a dedicated street and becomes purely a parking
access road. If this is not possible, we are 41 additional spaces short, which would
1 have to be made up at the southeast and southwest corners of the property during our
next phase of services.
1 The point of the parking analysis is to add comfort that we can have parking meeting
standards advised by Fred Hoisington.
Program
' After visiting Shoreview and the joint meeting, I developed the program dated May 7 to
give me a guide to planning procedures. Drawing #12 is based on this program and I
have established comparisons with the areas listed and where appropriate. Most of
I them are quite close.
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Mr. Don Ashworth
27 May 1993
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Note that I have assumed four racquetball courts (107) rather than two in the program.
The swimming pool room (116) has become an aquatic center requiring greater floor
area, increasing from 4,275 square feet to 6,100 square feet. The multi - purpose room
(301) will accommodate 300, rather than 350.
Estimated Costs
I have noticed that Dick's estimate put an upper level mechanical space in the addition
rather than in Phase 1. This mechanical space, however, has to serve the locker areas,
open spaces and swimming pool room in Phase 1. This pushes Phase 1 up to 58,811
GSF and reduces the budget cost per square foot to $84.90, which is lower than the
recommended $87.00 to $90.00 per square foot.
Likewise, it reduces the cost of the addition to only $556,500 and, if feasible, would
wisely be constructed with Phase 1 because three walls of the addition will be
constructed in Phase 1.
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Twenty copies of these charts are being enclosed under the assumption that you would
like to send them to your committee members prior to our next meeting. I would think
it would be helpful for them to understand both of these charts in advance of discussing
the plan.
Bill Morris' effort may also be simplified with this data as background information. It
is my hope that this information will be constructive in these evaluations.
I understand that Ted Rozeboom may working be workin with the city on the school facilities '
in Chanhassen and am pleased that our efforts on both sides of planning will be
coordinated. If I can be of any help in that effort, I will be pleased to assist.
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Sincerely yours,
HA L GREEN AND ABRAHAMSON, INC.
Curtis H. Green, FAIA
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Enclosure
cc: Todd Gerhardt, City of Chanhassen
Todd Hoffman, City of Chanhassen s , • : <:
Dick Duerner, M.A. Mortenson
Kevin Strong, M.A. Mortenson
Gary Reetz, HGA
Chanhassen - South Side West 78th Street Parking Demand HGA
' Preliminary Program of Requirements Comm. No. 1139.004.01
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BOWLING CENTER
Lanes 24 5 1) 120 5% 114 100% 114
--- 257 251 -6
CINEMA (seats) 600 4 1) 150 5% 143 100% 143
HOTEL
Rooms 112 1.05 1) 118 20% 94 95% 89 89 96 +7
ANIMAL FARE BUILDING 4,500 7 2) 32 80% 6 100% 6
FRONTIER CENTER
Retail (SF) 15,200 4 2) 58 5% 55 85% 47
Office (SF) 4,000 3 2) 13 0% 13 10% 1
Restaurant 120 3 • 1) 48 10% 43 100% 43
DINNER THEATER
Bar (seats) 35 2 1) 18 85% 3 100% 3
Hogarth (seats)_ 90 2 1) 45 85% 7 100% 7 -- 501 491 -10
Theaters (seats) 1,148 2.9 1) 396 20% 317 100% 317
Banquet (seats) 200 3 1) 67 0% 67 100% 67
Specialty Retail (SF) 700 3.8 2) 3 50% 1 90% 1
Furniture (SF) 12,000 2.5 2) 30 30% 21 40% 8
Office (SF) 2,900 3.2 2) 9 0% 9 10% 1
Scene Shop (SF 10,000 0.5 2) 5 0% 5 0% 0
COMMUNITY CENTER 350 3 1) 117 10% 105 100% 105
294 270 -24
RECREATION CENTER (SF) 37,400 5 2) & 4) 187 5% 178 100% 178
Racquetball Courts 4 3 1) 12 5% 11 100% 11
TOTALS 3) 1,141 1,108 -33
1 1) # parking spaces per seat/unit
2) # parking spaces per 1,000 square feet
3) Includes both restaurant and cinema in Bowling Center structure.
4) Includes Gym Addition
NOTE - #12 assumes vacating Pauly Drive. 41 spaces dropped if Pauly Drive is retained.
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Preliminary Program of Requirements Comm. No. 1139.004.01 1
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Category 100 Recreation Center
101 Divisable Gym 75 x 100 for 50 x 84 court 7,500 7,072
102 Gym Equipment Storage 2 150 sf 300 250
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103 Lounge 750 400
104 Shop 400 616
105 Office and Counter Area 300 350
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106 Elevated Track 340 L.F. 7 ft. wide 2,380 2,300
- 107 Racquetball Courts & Spectator Spaces 4 800 sf 2,000 3,680
108 Indoor Playground & Storage 2,500 2,604
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109 Fitness/Exercise Area 10 machines 1,200 900
110 Aerobics Studio 1,600 1,630
111 Male Lockers & Showers 1,600 1,408
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112 Female Lockers & Showers 1,600 1,408
113 Family Changing 3 @80 + Toilet 320 430
114 Juice/Snack Bar with tables 800 654 I
115 Classrooms 2 400 SF 800 800
116 Swimming Pool Room 4,275 6,100
117 Pool Equipment Storage 100 100 I
118 Locker Rooms Entrance from Pool (in 111 &112) 100 0
119 First Aid Room & Office 200 200
120 Life Guard or Staff Changing 70 0
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121 Filter, Heater, Chemical Storage 200 220
122 Custodial 100 100
Total Net Area 29,095 nsf 31,222 1
Adjustment to Gross 35% 10,183 10,928
Gross Area 39,278 42,150
Mechanical/Electrical 8% 3,142 1
Total Gross Area Category #100 42,421 gsf 42,220
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This does not assume any spectator space for racquetball
*Includes mechanical/electrical for #300 category and future Gym 1
Category o 200 Miscellaneous Areas I
201 Main Entrance to Complex, Drop -Off, and lobby 4,300 3,750 .
202 Nursery, Child Care & Toilet 900 1,078
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Total Net Area 5,200 nsf 4,828
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Adjustment to Gross 35% 1,820 *
Total Gross Area Category #200 7,020 gsf 4,828
*No additional circulation area required 1
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I Category 300 Community Center
301 Divisible Multi- Purpose/Assembly Room 4,000 3,445
302 Stage 50x25 1,250 1,350
I 303 Dressing/Toilets 400 400
304 Projection/Control Room 180 180
305 Receiving & Custodial 400 875
I 306 Chair & Table Storage 300 288
307 Vestibules 3 90 d 270 0
308 Coat Room 400 100
I 309 Toilets . 500 700
310 Meeting/Game Rooms - Divisible 1 150+450 600 540
_ 2 300 600 800
311 Servery (Catered or from restaurant for 101 & 111) 220 320
I 312 Custodial 100 0
313 Crafts & Projects Room & Storage 1,000 1,218
1 Total Net Area 10,220 nsf 10,216
Adjustment to Gross 35% 3,577
Gross Area 13,797
I Mechanical/Electrical 8% 1,104
Total Gross Area Category #300 14,901 gsf 11,843
1 *Included in Recreation Center figures
1 Total Gross Area Phase 1 58,891 GSF
58,891 GSF @ $84.90 = $5,000,000
1 (Note: Mortenson May 20 takeoff assumed upper level
mechanical space to be in additon. It is required in Phase 1.
I $84.90/GSF is a bit lower than recommended)
I Second Gym Alternate/Addition
Lower Level 6,825 GSF
Upper Level 2,450
I 9,275 GSF
9,275 GSF @ $60.00 = $556,500
I Total Project including Gym Addition
Phase 1 58,891 GSF
Addition 9,275
I Total 68,166 $5,556,500
Adjusting cost of Phase 1 to $5,182,500 @ $88.00/GSF
1 increases total including addition to $5,739,000
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