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April 1993 1 1 1 1 APRIL 1993 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 i 1 1 1 1 I Hammel Green and Abrahamson Inc Architecture • Engineering • Interior Des,an 1201 Harmon Place Minneapolis Minnesota 55403-1985 I Telephone 612.332.3944 Fax 612.332.9013 1 HGA Wii&EMOTEECo 1 TO: Chanhassen Entertainment Complex Study File FROM: Curt Green 1 DATE: 2 April 1993 SUBJECT: Meeting of April 1, 1993 I PRESENT: Don Ashworth, City of Chanhassen Todd Hoffman, City of Chanhassen Dick Duerner, M.A. Mortenson I Kevin Strong, M.A. Mortenson Curt Green, HGA I The memo on requirements and forecasts for the recreation center were discussed and shall become the basis of planning for this facility. I The revised plan was submitted as accommodating the interests of the private and public groups up to this time. Expansion could include the indoor playground in an additional bay of the existing concrete warehouse (just east of the cinema). A second gym could be I located on the second floor above the locker areas; it would be a smaller space, 45' x 70' for general use, without basketball. 1 Since there appears to be less interest in financial participation from the private developers, Don Ashworth asked that we prepare another study, including the following scenario: 1 - Remove bowling center and warehouse. - Locate new recreational center in present location of bowling; indicate future expansion of gym and racquetball courts. I - Locate (perhaps future) cinema. - Locate a cultural center -- auditorium plus multi - purpose rooms for meetings, I - classes, activities, crafts, etc. Consider a restaurant at the Market Street side. - Consider a prominent location for the library, if appropriate. I - Show some connection from the hotel to the theater. Remove all existing retail buildings. - Screen the rear portions of existing buildings with landscaping, etc.; berm I - along railroad tracks. Indicate scene shop and employee parking for theater. 1 chg9.gw cc: Those Present 1 Gary Reetz, HGA tf .: k - ' • ' - 1 . CITYOF 1 1 . CHANHASSEN 6 90 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 1 1 MEMORANDUM TO: Mayor and City Council and Housing and Redevelopment Authority FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director / 1 DATE: April 2, 1993 SUBJ: Downtown Entertainment Center Next Wednesday we will have the opportunity to review alternate concept plans for the proposed Y P P Community /Conference/Entertainment complex. The most recent concept drawings will be available for your review and to generate discussion. Components of the plan continue to include the development of a restaurant and cinema, displacing Filly's Nightclub and the "Banquet Room" and the construction of a community /conference center. In addition, the project would 1 include facelifts in a number of areas and an improved pedestrian system. Attachments 1 Note: Staff has also invited both Herb Bloomberg and Clayton Johnson to attend this portion of the meeting. 1 1 1 1 1 to PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER r CITY OF CHANHASSEN �-i , 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 MEMORANDUM TO: Don Ashworth, City Manager • ' FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director ' DATE: March 16, 1993 SUBJ: Proposed Community Center r The task of identifying the demands which would be placed on a community center through the year 2010 is daunting. The variables involved in such a study are numerous and intertwining. However, a number of factors involved in this type of study are readily distinguishable. It is based upon these that the majority of my comments are made. ' The Need or Desire for a Community Center The scarcity of indoor recreation/community space in Chanhassen is a glaring reality. Existing facilities include the Chanhassen Elementary School and the Minnetonka Intermediate School. These two buildings house a total of three regular -sized gyms and a pool. St. Hubert's School ' cafeteria /gymnasium/auditorium also is home to a variety of community activities. The population and service areas these facilities are called on to service are large. The desire of the community to initiate two separate community center referendums, February 1989 (downtown site) and November 1990 (elementary school site), if nothing else indicates past interest in building a center. The work of the 1989 task force began in 1987, thus represents an effort which is now over five years old. One should be cautious when relating the failure of these two referendums to lack of need. The level of desire to construct a center will assuredly see a dramatic shift upwards if the community is presented with a proposal which provides for the 1 construction of a center through tax increment. Population Forecasts The growth of Chanhassen in housing, industrial/commercial properties, and population is a given. When attempting to estimate what future populations will be, the numbers begin to vary. The city's Comprehensive Plan identifies two different sets of estimates, the Metropolitan Council's and ours. If the city were to get things rolling in 1993, the center could be up and operating by 1995. With a current population near the 13,000 mark, we will likely be home to ' 14,000 residents by 1995. Estimates of the city's population beyond 1995 are: efr 0, PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER Mr. Don Ashworth i March 16, 1993 Page 2 1 METROPOLITAN CITY 1 1 YEAR COUNCIL ESTIMATES ESTIMATES 2000 15,350 17,782 1 2005 17,500 22,814 2010 19,250 29,913 1 As the city's population rises, the community will respond by expanding services areas as well, i.e. schools, streets, recreational facilities, support retail, etc., to meet the expanding needs of a growing population. Assuredly we must I keep an eye to the future; however, should we not rust address the needs which are present today? Specifically, with a population of 13,000± residents, a maturing downtown, a growing sense of community among all who live and work here, and the promise of a bright future, can we afford not to be proactive? The attached table summarizes I a random survey of six other communities in regard to recreational facilities. This survey was conducted to quantify what levels of service in the area of public recreational facilities other cities are offering. The table does include a per capita ratio for each category. Recognize that a survey of this type is subject to error due to interpretation of questions and inaccurate reporting. However, it should nevertheless, be of interest. Additionally, the ratios are skewed as the population of the city rises due to the presence of private facilities. Eden Prairie, for example, offers 18 private racquetball courts. RACQUETBALL CITY/ GYMS INDOOR POOLS COURTS POPULATION - I City School Ratio City School Ratio City Ratio Chanhassen I 13.000 0 4 1/3,300 0 1 1/13,000 0 0/13,000 Chaska 12.000 2 7 1/1,300 1 1 1/6,000 2 1/6,000 I Shakopee* 11.000 0 5 1/2,200 0 1 1 /11,000 0 0 /11,000 Hopkins/Mika 1 65,000 0 17 1/3,100 0 3 1/22,000 0 0/65,000 Eden Prairie I 43.000 0 21 1/2,000 1 0 1/43,000 3 1/14,000 Apple Valley 1 40.000 2 11 1/3,000 0 2 1/20,000 0 0/40,000 Lakeville 29,000 0 8 1/3,600 0 1 1/29,000 0 0/29,000 I Note: Ratios were randomly rounded. * Two additional gyms at elementary schools are planned. The city is also purchasing land in conjunction 1 with the school district for a future community center. 1 1 Mr. Don Ashworth March 16, 1993 ' Page 3 Recommended Schedule of Facilities if the Community Center was to be Constructed ' The program, as presently proposed, contains all the essential elements of a center which can effectively serve Chanhassen minus 1, an indoor playground. Therefore, the recommended program for a community center would include: An oversized gymnasium (divisible by 2); ' - Leisure swimming pool; Racquetball/Wallyball courts (2); Indoor playground; ' - Fitness /exercise area; Running Track. These six components serviced by the necessary support areas would fulfill the needs, desires, and the marketplace present in Chanhassen. Severing any one of these components would hamper the overall success of the center. A phased approach for the construction of these facilities is likely to be necessary under current funding restraints, however. The only areas which require consideration for future expansion include the gymnasium, racquetball courts, and ' fitness /exercise area. Simply because by the year 2010 the city's population may double does not necessitate our planning for the doubling of the size of the center. Other expanded community spaces, namely the new elementary and middle school buildings which are likely to be located in Chanhassen, will play a role in fulfilling future needs. It is my professional judgement that if a well - designed center incorporating quality construction ' were built in the city, that it would be successful. The long term success of such a facility would depend on quality service, and the ability to effectively and economically maintain the building. As the city's population grows, the consumers will find their own equilibrium levels as the ' popularity of the center increases. The benefits of the center; its proximity and reasonable costs, will be weighed against the downsides associated with increased participation, namely crowded conditions and such simple things as wet floors in The locker rooms. In other words, the ' community would not out -grow the center being proposed, user habits will simply change as population rises. If the city were to build a center, reflective of the work which has been completed to date, it will faithfully service the needs of the community well beyond the year 1 2010. In a community with the demographics of Chanhassen, a community center is a justifiable investment. It is not, and should not, be our desire to specialize. Our mandate is to provide service for all- -a concept with which a multi- purpose community center fulfills. A facility such ' as this can be a tremendous asset to the community of Chanhassen. I remain confident and excited over the possibilities. Community The city spends a good amount of money and a great deal of time promoting it. It is a part of our culture, the residents and business people here value it, and we are in a unique position to foster it. 1 Mr. Don Ashworth 1 March 16, 1993 Page 4 1 Center A place of concentrated activity. The downtown is developing into a service center, a place of 1 concentrated activity. 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I v c`1°ne h as a sa / \hope e`R fin' / N /f t o \ \s�9ns• c � mP \ e� N e / stA I P 000d J �m� d make su yo u 1400 c eretA el l° 95. ce ase dry III 1 _ 2 I CITY OF CHANHASSEN r � r 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESO TA 55317 (612) 937 -1900 • FAX (612) 937 -5739 MEM ORANDUM TO: Don Ashworth, City Manager ty er g FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director , DATE: March 30, 1993 SUBJ: Proposed Conference /Community Center A verbal update of the proposed conference /community center was presented to the Park and Recreation Commission on Tuesday, March 23. I will forward the minutes of the commission's discussion to you when they become available. A general consensus of the commission was that the emphasis of this center should be on the public recreation components. The commission considered the community center as the driving force in this process, not the "conference" component. The commission wishes to express their continued support of the community center proposal and stands ready to assist in this effort. r r 1 i r 1 r n 1 %el PRINTED ON RECYCLED PAPER r 1 I ITINERARY SHOREVIEW COMMUNITY CENTER TOUR 1 1 Wednesday, April 28, 1993: 5:30 p.m. Depart Chanhassen City Hall via Southwest Metro Reverse 1 Commute Vehicle. A box lunch supper will be served on the ride to Shoreview. I would like to note that Southwest Metro was very helpful in scheduling our transportation and is discounting our fare 1 by 50 %. 6:30 p.m. Arrive at the Shoreview Community Center, 4600 Victoria Drive I 6:30 .m. -6:45 p.m. Introductions, short presentation by HGA/Mortenson P P 1 6:45 -7:30 p.m. Guided tour of the center conducted by: I Gerald Haffeman, Director of Shoreview Parks & Recreation Jim Topitzhofer, Facility Manager Kevin Strong, M.A. Mortenson Company 1 7:30 -7:45 p.m. Free time. I 8:00 p.m. Depart for return to Chanhassen. . 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 ATTENDEES LIST 1 SHOREVIEW COMMUNITY CENTER TOUR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 28, 1993, 5:30 P.M. 1 Don Chmiel, Mayor; Member of Housing and Redevelopment Authority Mark Senn, City Council 1 Colleen Dockendorf, City Council Jim Manders, Park and Recreation Commission I Ron Roeser, Park and Recreation Commission 1 Fred Berg, Park and Recreation Commission Jan Lash, Park and Recreation Commission I Joe Scott, Planning Commission 1 Jack Jensen, Chanhassen Athletic Association, President I Curt Green, HGA Kevin Strong, M.A. Mortenson 1 Dick Duerner, M. A. Mortenson I Don Ashworth, City Manager; Executive Director of Housing and Redevelopment Todd Gerhardt, Assistant City Manager; Assistant Executive Director of Housing and 1 Redevelopment Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor 1 Dawn Lemme, Program Specialist 1 1 — 1S ■O NM NM NM 1I 1E NM MI MI r IN — NM r— lit — Chanhassen Entertainment Complex Study HGA Commission Number 1139.004.01 Tour of Shoreview Community Center Present: Don Chmiel, Mayor, Member of Housing and Redevelopment Authority Colleen Dockendorf, City Council Jim Manders, Park and Recreation Commission Ron Roeser, Park and Recreation Commission Fred Berg, Park and Recreation Commission Jan Lash, Park and Recreation Commission Don Ashworth, City Manager; Executive Director of Housing and Redevelopment Authority Todd Gerhardt, Assistant City Manager; Assistant Executive Director of Housing and Redevelopment Authority Todd Hoffman, Park and Recreation Director Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Supervisor Dawn Lemme, Program Specialist Joe Scott, Planning Commission Jack Jensen, Chanhassen Athletic Association, President Kevin Strong, M.A. Mortenson Dick Duerner, M.A. Mortenson Curt Green, HGA We were hosted by the Shoreview Community Center's General Manager and Operations Manager, who gave us the following information: 1. The building has no control position(s), even though it accommodates registrants from nearby communities and charges admission for use of their facilities. Wrist bands of colors identifying the activity paid for are issued and worn during the activity, principally the pool, gym and fitness areas. They spend $25,000 per year on wrist bands. 2. Passes are purchased on a daily, weekly, monthly or annual basis at certain rates for residents, non - residents, age groups, etc. 3. The building has become a social center that is rented, again on varying bases. Common uses are birthday parties (very frequent), anniversaries, wedding receptions, etc. The all - purpose, divisible social room and the lobby accommodate these uses. A catering servery kitchen is available. 4. The building organization splits vertically. Its upper level provides the social and meeting spaces, classrooms, the large open lobby lounge and the city hall (separate entrance). Its lower level is the activity center, with a centrally- located counter for check -in in the "hub" space that serves all the activity centers. The residents were surveyed on several subjects and stated a preference for a "community" ambiance, rather than the "health club" appearance. 5. Commercial leases are also part of their operations. (They operate with a $24,000 per year surplus without capital amortization (paid for by city funding and referendum - total ±$8,000,000)). Rentals to churches, Weight Watchers, civic or business organizations in their area provide income. VFW- sponsored dinners are also accommodated, with alcohol service via an approved list of vendors and purchase of an "event license." 6. The building is smoke free. 7. Lockers are coin - operated for a quarter, with 250 changing half - lockers in each locker area. Two "family change rooms" are available for family dressing or use by the handicapped. One toilet room serves both dressing rooms, but a handicapped shower is within the dressing room. Additional family dressing is needed. 8. Their aquatic center requires such large volumes of water that they supplement filtering systems with an "ozone system." Virgil Luken was their consultant. 9. Pool activity is a major use of the building, and this installation cost ±$2.8 million. They have all of the various pool elements for children and can accommodate everything from water aerobics to toddlers playing on the edgeless pool entrance. Reservations on times for swimming are made for weekends, which may necessitate a resident waiting to use the pool. 10. The fitness /aerobics room should have privacy, as preferred by women. Their "machine" health room is separate because of privacy for aerobics classes and motion music. 1111111 1.111 11111i MI 1.111 NM MO NM MI MN I= NM In 11. They do not have leagues playing in the gym. Its floor is vinyl sheet athletic flooring. On the second level, a 6' -0" wide running track with banked corners is open to the gym and connected by an open stairway. Access to the track should be outside the gym also. 12. Adjacent to the gym, the gymnastics room is the same height or an extension of the gym, but with a concrete block wall separating them. On this Wednesday evening, this gymnastics area was bustling with over 50 ten to sixteen year old children. chgl 1.gw LOWER LEVEL WO - POOL 110 - FAMILY DRESSING ROOMS - 101 - SERVICE DESK 111 - WOWN'S LOCKER ROOM 102 - FITNESS ROOM 112 - l',4 Lt./4'a LOCKER ROOM 103 - NURSERY 120 - COMMUNITY 1/EiOPMENTF� UBLIC WORKS ill 104 - PRESCHOOL 121 - GRASS LAKE ROOM s 11, 105 - GAME ROOM/WARMING ROOM 130 - GYMNASIUM P 106 - AEROBICS ROOM 131 - GYMNASTICS 0 E m 103 03 1 104 1111;* 106 I1 9114117)4 131 1 3 0 105 :7 t' - - - Deo __ '-• - - -' -• .. . . � ' 23 n - j , 1 �t11�t 101 102 ii«uunn1ii/4 ipM111 • 101 • IMP ......4,6 ... ,,„,,, . 110 O '" 0 „0 L' . , - nxi . t II [ 0 N. 111 `D +' 1 I � 112 1 120 15 n II a x a x U LL O } F- U O • LOWER LEVEL PLAN •l` (Upper level on other sick) MI NM MIN INN MN - MN NM MIN MIN INS MN NM ONI NM OM MII NM MO INN N NM r MN I MN MO I MN NM IIIIII E MN MI I = I 1111111 MI UPPER DUET. • 200 - PARK & RECREATION OFFICE 210 - SNAIL LAKE ROOM A 201 - FIRESIDE LOUNGE 211 - SNAIL LAKE ROOM B 21E - LAKE OWASSO ROOM A 212 - 'TURTLE LAKE ROOM A 203 - LAKE OWASSO ROOM B 213 - TURTLE LAKE ROOM B 204 - LAKE WABASSO ROOM A 220 - COUNCIL CHAMBERS 205 - LAKE WABASSO ROOM B 221 - ADMINIS1RATIOK & FINANCE * 206 - LAKE MARTHA ROOM 222 - ISLAND LAKE ROOM * 0 207 - CRAFT ROOM 230 - KITCHEN • w * * * • r - 11 201 23 \2 % 0 202 ; t 6 11.. . ` J !Dilly 200 • 23 t, lif o1os 3 '* � 011 i 1 \ .... 1 ��4;) 210 212 loft UPPER LEVEL ENTRANCE r 222 2?0 CITY HALL 0. ENTRANCE UPPER LEVEL PLAN . 1 MORTENSON The Construction Organizations" MIDWEST REGION Minneapolis Office ENTERTAINMENT CENTER 700 Meadow 4 North P O Box 710 (5555440 -0710) CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA Minneapolis, Minnesota 55422 -4899 PRELIMINARY BUDGET Telephone: (612) 522 -2100 (1994 CONSTRUCTION) Facsimile: (612) 520 -3430 April 28, 1993 The Following Schemes Footage Do Not Include: 1. Bowling Center 4. Scene Shop 2. Cinema 5. Restaurant 3. Meeting Center 6. Retail 7. Connecting Walkway HG A SL home #8 Lower Level 48,523 SF 3'17'93 Upper Level 20,998 SF 69.521 SF ' 69.500 SF $90.00 /SF = $6.255.000 HGA 1 Scheme #10 42 3 Phase 1 Lower Level 40.532 SF Upper Level 18.310 SF 58,842 SF 59,000 SF @ $90.00 /SF = $5,310,000 1 Phase 2 Lower Level 11,750 SF Upper Level 4,340 SF 16.090 SF 16.100 SF ��' $90.00/SF = $1,449.000 $6,759,000 HG Scheme #11 Approximately Same Square Footage and Costs as Scheme #10 4 '23 93 Offices In Minneapolis Seattle Denver Colorado Springs Milwaukee Grand Rapids