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CASE #: 92 -8 WAP
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1 STAFF REPORT
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PROPOSAL: Wetland Alteration Permit to Fill within 200 feet of a Class A Wetland
LOCATION: 7201 Juniper Avenue
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V APPLICANT: Greg Dattilo
1 n 7201 Juniper Avenue
Excelsior, MN 55331
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1 PRESENT ZONING: RSF Residential Single Family
1 ACREAGE 999 cubic yards of fill
DENSITY:
1 ADJACENT ZONING AND
LAND USE: N -RSF Residential Single Family
I S - RSF Residential Single Family
Q E - RSF Residential Single Family
1 W- RSF Residential Single Family
I 0 WATER AND SEWER: Available to the sites
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F PHYSICAL CHARACTER.: The site is a vacant lot that slightly slopes towards the west.
1 2000 LAND USE PLAN: Residential Single Family
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BACKGROUND
' Staff observed fill material being deposited on the vacant property owned by Mr. Dattilo, and he
was informed to cease the filling operation. Mr. Datillo approached the city about obtaining a
grading permit, and at that time staff determined that a wetland alteration permit was also
' necessary.
1 PROPOSAL
Mr. Greg Datillo is proposing to place approximately 990 cubic yards of fill into a vacant lot.
' The purpose of this request is to develop a neighborhood park. This fill would cover an area
approximately 100 x 180 feet and vary in depth. This area would be seeded and used as a
playfield area. There is a Class A Wetland approximately 60 feet away. No activity is proposed
' within the wetland, and therefore there is no mitigation requirement. The applicant will also be
securing a grading permit from the City.
' This wetland was inspected in June as a part of the City's Storm Water Management Plan. It
was noted that the contour at the edge of the wetland is 946.0. This wetland is classified as an
Ag/Urban Wetland under the draft wetlands ordinance. Thus it is representative of a poor quality
wetland. It was noted that there was a significant amount of branches and yard debris deposited
on the south side, as well as old appliances and tires on the wetland edge. The survey also
indicated that this wetland drains to Lake Minnewashta. The wetland is 95 percent open water
and has a dominant species of Duckweed.
The fill, as proposed by Mr Dattilo, would level the vacant property. This area would then be
' seeded for a grass play area. Staff would recommend that a swale be created along the
southwestern portion of the fill area to maintain the neighborhood drainage which eventually
flows into the wetland. Staff would also recommend that seeding take place immediately upon
' completion of grading and Type I erosion control be placed around the entire site.
' SUMMARY
The applicant is requesting to fill approximately 990 cubic yards within 200 feet of a Class A
Wetland. The proposed fill will be 60 feet from the edge of the Class A Wetland. There will
not be any activity within the wetland boundaries.
PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION
The Planning Commission unanimously recommended approval of the wetland alteration permit
1 as recommended by staff.
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STAFF RECOMMENDATION 1
Staff recommends the City Council adopt the following motion:
"The City Council approves Wetland Alteration Permit #92 -8 as shown on the plans dated July
1, 1992, with the following conditions:
1. A adin permit shall be obtained from the City of Chanhassen.
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2. Type I erosion control shall be installed between the existing wetland area and the entire 1
fill area, and shall be removed once the vegetation has been re- established.
3. A swale shall be created between the area of fill and the wetland edge at approximately 1
the 960.0 contour to maintain the existing neighborhood drainage pattern. Staff shall
inspect the final grade prior to seeding.
4. Clean-up debris.
ATTACHMENTS 1
1. Plans dated July 1, 1992.
2. Wetland Observation Record dated June 9, 1992.
3. Planning Commission minutes dated August 5, 1992.
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Commission Meeting
Punning Co i g
August 5, 1992 - Page 13
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Ahrens: But there have been other beachlots that can't document... We've
approved those.
Emmings: We've had something on most of them haven't we? We've had our
' own survey and we've had what they said.
Conrad: You know they're asking for 6 or 7 canoes which is nothing. Yeah,
that's in my mind, those are not issues. If they want 6 or 7 canoes, fine.
The issue is access.
Batzli: Access and supervision.
Conrad: And supervision and they're not asking for that so I don't know
how we tackle but that's a huge issue.
Batzli: Okay, is there a motion to table?
Emmings moved, Ahrens seconded to table the Non - Conforming Use Permit for a
' Recreational Beachlot for Lakeview Hills Apartments for further
clarificaiton from the City Attorney. All voted in favor and the motion
carried.
Batzli: This Non - conforming Use Permit is tabled and it's tabled pending
staff's approaching the City Attorney to determine what conditions we can
' place on this application for access and supervision to the beachlot.
Anything else?
Conrad: And can we get that back in here in 2 weeks? Oh we have a flooded
agenda in 2 weeks.
Krauss: Well I think this is something that we can, we'll try. We will
' notify the neighbors of when it's on.
Batzli: Thank you very much for coming in.
PUBLIC HEARING:
WETLAND ALTERATION PERMIT FOR ALTERATION WITHIN 200 FEET OF A WETLAND
LOCATED AT 7201 JUNIPER AVENUE. GREG DATTILO.
Public Present:
Name Address
Dorothy Downing 7200 Juniper Road
' Sam Potts 3628 Hickory Road
Greg Oatillo 7201 Juniper Avenue
Tom & Kathy Paradise 3755 Red Cedar Point Road
Kate Aanenson presented the staff report on this item. Chairman Batzli
called the public hearing to order.
Greg Oatilio: I'm Greg Datillo. I think Kate did a great job in
presenting it. The only question I have is, on the erosion part. If the
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part that would cause a problem for any wetland to get destroyed from the
erosion. You know there's really only going to be like one spot, like •
right over there. If I could just put it up there instead of putting it
around the whole area. I don't know if Kate, I'm sorry, I can't.
Batzli: We have our engineering expert here. ,
Hempel: Staff's concern I guess would be to the adjacent property owners. '
It is a low point of the neighborhood. I think the wetland or the area
that you're filling is right up to the common property line. That would be
of concern of any potential property damage on your neighbors from runoff.
Greg Datillo: That's fine but you know the area where it's real high on '
the, okay thank. I mean that's.
Batzli: Okay so, he can work it out then with City Engineering or staff as'
far as which portions he would have to place the erosion control around?
Hempel: That'd be acceptable. '
Batzli: Okay. Thank you. Did you have any other questions?
Greg Datillo: Yeah, no. She did a great job. Thank you.
Batzli: If we have questions, we'll let you know. Anyone else like to
comment on this application?
Dorothy Downing: We are the adjacent property owners and we're fine with
it as long as everything is, I'd rather have it level as long as everything
is going down to the wetland. So I don't know if the swale line would nee
to go inbetween the two properties?
Aanenson: Yeah, it would go right in here. '
Hempel: It would follow the common property line basically down towards
the wetland.
Dorothy Downing: Okay.
Batzli: Thank you. Would anyone else like to comment on the application? '
Conrad moved, Ledvina seconded to close the public hearing. All voted in II
favor and the motion carried. The public hearing was closed.
Batzli: Ladd, do you want to lead off?
Conrad: Kate, the purpose of this is, the particular function of this
wetland is what? Based on our inventory.,
Aanenson: It's just a holding pond before it goes into the lake.
Conrad: It is a holding pond for the lake?
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August 5, 1992 - Page 15
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Krauss: If we could also clarify something too. I think you're aware that
there's a new wetlands ordinance that's in the development stage. On
Monday night the subcommittee, Swamp subcommittee working on it completed
it. It's going to come to the whole Swamp Board on next Wednesday and it's
' going to come to you in September. One of the things that is contained in
that ordinance is an elimination of this 200 foot but not impacting the
wetland standard. Where we trick the wetland alteration permit. Here you
have a clear example of an activity that's of no direct bearing to the
' wetland. One which engineering could well have handled administratively
and we could have taken care of that in a grading permit. Yet because of
how the ordinance is set up right now, we've had to run Mr. Datillo through
this and it takes an extra few months. So you won't be seeing many of
these in the future if that ordinance gets approved the way it's drafted
right now.
1 Batzli: Is that next Thursday?
Krauss: Thursday?
Batzli: I thought it was the 13th.
' Aanenson: Thursday.
Krauss: Thursday.
Batzli: The 13th. Next week from tomorrow right? 13th. You were going
to show up on the wrong night weren't you?
' Conrad: Okay, anyway. The function is filtration and we're not effecting
that? Okay.
Batzli: Okay, Matt?
Ledvina: I guess I don't have anything to add beyond the recommendations
from staff.
' Emmings: Will this be a buildable area once it's filled?
' Aanenson: The lot?
Emmings: Yeah.
Aanenson: ...the lot?
Greg Datillo: I have water and sewer to the site but...
' Emmings: My only question is, if this is a buildable area, would you be
putting any different conditions on it based on that use as opposed to use
as a playground?
Greg Datillo: No. Currently...
' Emmings: No, I'm asking the staff.
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Aanenson: No. As a matter of fact, if he came in for a building permit on
it now, we'd be doing the same process. '
Emmings: Okay. You wouldn't look at it any differently? Then I'm fine.
Batzli: Joan. Matt, were you done? '
Ledvina: Yes. 1
Batzli: Okay, Joan.
Ahrens: Is this going to be a public park? _ 1
Greg Datillo: No. Can I talk?
Batzli: Yeah, go ahead. '
Greg Datillo: My profession is insurance. So for liability, I can't put
Datillo's Park on there. In other words, right now I put a basketball
court across the street and that's already in there 2 years ago. And as
long as I kind of, you know I have kids so it's their friends that come
over and 50% of the time my kids aren't even over there but right now kids II
are playing. And my liability, I do have a million dollar liability policy
and you know, for liability purposes I would never name it Datillo's Park
or anything like that. Right now it's got a swingset over there. I mean I
there are things already over there. It's just that I don't have a
ballfield... I'm not putting anything in writing that it's a park.
Ahrens: You're not going to have the same kinds of parties that they have II
over on Lake Riley?
Greg Datillo: Maybe my kids. '
Batzli: But this is your private property then and you just let kids come
and play on it? ,
Greg Datillo: Yes. That's right. Exactly.
Emmings: You let them come and trespass on it. ,
Ahrens: I don't have any questions.
Batzli: Okay. I don't have a proble as long as the neighbors concerns are l
taken care of that whatever needs to be done so that there's no runoff or
that we're diverting water onto their property is taken care of. Is there
a motion?
Conrad: I recommend approval of the Wetland Alteration Permit #92 -8 as
shown on the plans dated July 1st with the conditions in the staff report. II
Batzli: Is there a second?
Emmings: Second. '
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August 5, 1992 - Page 17
Batzli: Is there discussion?
1 Conrad moved, Emmings seconded that the Planning Commission recommend
approval of Wetland Alteration Permit #92 -8 as shown on the plans dated
I July 1, 1992 with the following conditions:
1. A grading permit shall be obtained from the City of Chanhassen.
II 2. Type I erosion control shall be installed between the existing wetland
area and the entire fill area, and shall be removed once the vegetation
has been re- established.
3. A swale shall be created between the area of fill and the wetland edge
at approximately the 960.0 contour to maintain the existing
neighborhood drainage pattern. Staff shall inspect the final grade
prior to seeding.
4. Clean up debris.
II All voted in favor and the motion carried.
II PUBLIC HEARING:
WETLAND ALTERATION PERMIT FOR A RIGHT TURN LANE ADJACENT TO A WETLAND,
CHEYENNE TRAIL AND HWY 101, CITY OF CHANHASSEN.
II Kate Aanenson presented the staff report on this item.
' Batzli: 5o Dave, speak to us about this sedimentation catching dealybob.
That's a technical term guys.
I Hempel: This is what was employed at Lundgren's development up at
Trapper's Pass where there was just simply no area to build a sedimentation
pond due to the terrain. The sediment basins were recommended on behalf of
the Watershed and staff. They do help from a water quality standpoint by
I removing the larger sediments that wash through the pipe and so forth.
It's not as desireable as a sedimentation basin or a NURP pond which
removes a lot more of the nutrients and so forth but this is much better
than what is currently transpiring out there right now with an open ditch
section and it's been continually eroding into the wetland. So the
improvements that we're proposing here will definitely help from a water
quality standpoint, as well as a traffic safety standpoint with turning
movements on TH 101 and Cheyenne.
Batzli: So this will improve the current sedimentation problem that's
' running into the pond but it otherwise won't improve the water quality
other than to catch the large sedimentation currently going in there throng
the existing culvert kind of thing? Whatever's there now.
Hempel: That's correct, yes.
Batzli: Okay. Is there anything that we could do that would improve the
I water quality or potential for spills off the roadway or something? Is
there something we could be doing that we're not?
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Wetland No.: - 7 (Field Review):/? - 2 ( 3) (Official Map) 01 "r-
1 Location I k b 0 T; 7.3 v) R; 8 Section On USGS NWI: I./ Y N i - "N
Observer Initials: - Date Visited: 6 / q / _ 'a.. J e ��
1 Picture Number(s)/Roll #:] ( /er Picture Nos.: ( ( z,.e.� - 5 r.� ) 3)1,,,J2'
1 Classification
Wetland Type: ;i1,,5 (Cowardin); S (Circular 39)
1 Wetland Location:
Lakeside Streamside
1 Headwaters ✓ Isolated (upland)
Edge of Wetland Contour 9 & , o ; varies
1 City Class:
(P)ristine ; (N)atural ; (A)g/Urban ✓ ; (U)tilized
Watershed Characteristics
1 Wetland Size: acres Direct drainage area: acres
Total drainage area: acres Open water area: acres
Vegetation
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Dominant Plant Species:
1 1; Reed canary grass 0 Cattail
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Purple Loosestrife: (D)ominant; (A)bundant; Some; Individuals• (N)one
1 Plant Diversity: No. Species Dominant. - 1; 2; 3 -5; 7
Percent open water: 95 °i
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Land Use Influences
L and Use (Percent):
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Surrounding ( )
'P Residential L,/,D, Rur. -- Commercial/Industrial
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Agricultural Open Water
zn°% Wooded --- Institutional
`{o °i Vacant Field — (describe below) I
Hydrology
Water Source: t/ Natural; Stormwater; Unknown I
Inflow: Stream; Ditch; Stormsewer; ,� Surface
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Outflow: � � Dit ch; Culvert; None
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Sedimentation/Siltation: Y ✓ N
Flooded - dead or dying trees: ✓ Y N
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Drains to r-.. r : • I + ' , / ' ' t- / ; (Direction; Wetland No.)
(C)ontinuously; (S)easonally (I termittently; (R)arely
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Soil Classification
Soil Type Abby.: Soil Name:
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Other
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Wildlife Observations: Ut:. -/t r .4' ) General Notes /Comments: c,,. ;1;; e qr ,J- -...„ -
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