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CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 11, 2013
Mayor Furlong called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. The meeting was opened with the Pledge to
the Flag.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mayor Furlong, Councilman McDonald, Councilwoman
Tjornhom, Councilwoman Ernst, and Councilman Laufenburger
STAFF PRESENT:
Todd Gerhardt, Laurie Hokkanen, Paul Oehme, Kate Aanenson, Todd Hoffman,
and Roger Knutson
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Marcus Zbinden 6460 Bretton Way
Sara Harvey 6281 Teton Lane
Jerry Story 6281 Teton Lane
John Chadwick 4477 Manitou Road
Daniel Feller 6430 Bretton Way
Mayor Furlong: Thank you everybody and welcome. At this time I would ask members of the council if
there are any changes or modifications to the agenda. If not, without objection we’ll proceed with the
agenda as published. First items under our agenda would be the consideration of the consent agenda
items.
CONSENT AGENDA:
Mayor Furlong: I will say that, which one is it Ms. Aanenson? Item.
Kate Aanenson: D.
Mayor Furlong: 1(d) has been, will be modified or amended with the new plan that was passed, is that
correct?
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, the change would be just signatures by the city manager, the mayor and the
applicant.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, very good. Thank you. So that will be amended and the council received that. If
there’s no questions on that we’ll keep it on the consent agenda. If there’s no other requests on items 1(a)
through (f), is there a motion to approve?
Councilman Laufenburger moved, Councilwoman Ernst seconded to approve the following consent
agenda items pursuant to the City Manager’s recommendations:
a. Approval of Minutes:
-City Council Work Session Minutes dated February 25, 2013
-City Council Verbatim and Summary Minutes dated February 25, 2013
Receive Commission Minutes:
-Planning Commission Work Session Summary Minutes dated February 19, 2013
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Resolution #2013-19:
b. Approve Resolution Accepting Donation of Batting Cage Improvements
at Lake Ann Park, Chanhassen Athletic Association.
c. TH 101/Pleasant View Road and TH 41 Trail Improvements: Approve Construction
Administration and Inspection Contract with Kimley-Horn.
d. Approve Clarification of Stipulation Agreement, Halla Nursery/The Mustard Seed as amended by
staff.
e. Approval of the 2013-14 Lake Ann Beach Lifeguard Contract with Minnetonka Public Schools
ISD 276.
f. Approval of Amendments to:
-Chanhassen Personnel Policy
-City Code Section 9-2 Concerning Fire Department Bylaws.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS.
John Chadwick: Thank you Mr. Mayor. My name is John Chadwick. I live at 4477 Manitou Road here
representing Bruce Jeurissen this evening and I’m not sure exactly the right place to put everything but I
wanted to get something on record. I know that many have been contacted here by Bruce. We’re
working real hard to get a development out on his land and we’ve come across some issues and we
needed some leadership to get those solved. They’re not simple issues. They’re complex issues but I
think we just need to get on record that we want to get after that and get er done. Got the good news that
our developer partner’s got some great plans out there and I think city staff’s pretty happy with that and
ready to go and we need to get going and the issue at hand is the access there to Mr. Jeurissen’s land. As
many of you may or may not know he’s got a million dollars worth of assessments against that land. He
has no access to the road and to ask him to pay on assessments and then have no access, you know that
kind of flies in the face of why you’d sign up for an access because you have a project improvement so
we really need some help on that and I know city staff has got some ideas on that. But it would be a little
bit like a public improvement and we each hand out $10,000 bills. You guys each have to pay $10,000.
You want to go use it, can’t use it. Got to pay interest on that in the meantime, you know how many of
you want to sign up for that? Nobody wants to sign up for that so we’ve got a dilemma. We need some
leadership here. We’re ready to go. Seems like we’re ought to work real hard on solutions here rather
than how did this ever happen? That’s a long and winding trail but I want to ask all of your help and your
focus on that. Personally I faced exactly the same situation. I had a piece of ground. Couldn’t get to it.
Needed the next door neighbor to build the road to me. The City Administrator, Barry Stock down in
Savage asked me to come in and I said well is the other fella. He said hey boys why don’t you sit down
here, I want to talk to you a little bit. I listened and he said Mr. Chadwick, I know you’d like to have
some access here. I understand that and I said yes sir I would. He says and the other fella, who’s still a
friend of mine, would you like to provide him access and Mr. Chadwick says he’d be happy to give you 2
years worth of interest because I know you don’t want to build that section of land. You know whatever
it was, 2 years on $100,000 . Whatever it was. And of course I was happy to do that and the fella said
yeah, let’s do it and that was a pretty simple solution and I wrote my check to the city. The city was the
bank and he built the road. City gave him his money. Everybody was happy and we can have simple
solutions. We’re not trying to make this real, real hard and kudos to city staff. There’s one other little
piece that needed to come in. Mr. Peterson had a little triangle piece that was on the Ryland thing. City
got that so we’re all set to go except but for this one little piece and it’s driving us all of us a little bit
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crazy so I would like some leadership. I don’t really want to wait. We’ve been after it for quite a while.
Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Alright, thank you. Mr. Gerhardt, any thoughts or comments to this? I know there was
an email that came last week to the council members. I know there’s been some discussions since then.
Todd Gerhardt: Well I would agree with Mr. Chadwick. It is a complicated issue. I think we were
talking earlier today about a chapter and a book has several chapters in it and that’s how this situation
kind of lays out. Lot of history that goes with it and I think staff should sit down with Mr. Chadwick, Mr.
Jeurissen and put something together and bring it back to council and very soon. So that would be my
recommendation to the council is to meet with Mr. Chadwick and bring back some options for council to
consider.
Mayor Furlong: I think that makes a lot of sense. Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Gerhardt?
Councilman McDonald: Yeah, I have one question. As part of what you bring back, will you bring back
a little bit of the history so we can understand all this in context.
Todd Gerhardt: Definitely bring back the background. Definitely will do that.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you.
Councilman Laufenburger: Mr. Gerhardt, just one clarification. Mr. Chadwick referencing the number of
a million dollars. Do you know what exactly the assessment is on this property?
Todd Gerhardt: No, not right now.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay.
Mayor Furlong: That will be part of the staff report then.
Councilman Laufenburger: Perfect.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Thank you Mr. Chadwick. Appreciate you being here tonight. Anyone else
who would like to address the council under visitor presentations? No? Okay, very good. Let’s move
on then to items on our regular agenda this evening.
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF NON-CONFORMING USE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS,
NAOMI CARLSON, 6411 BRETTON WAY.
Kate Aanenson: Thank you very much Mayor, members of the City Council. Good evening. This item
appeared before you last October and you directed the staff to work through some issues on this project,
or this existing use. 6411 Bretton Way. The subject site is located off of a cul-de-sac on Bretton Way
which is just north of Curry Farms neighborhood. As you recall this was a non-conforming use. In
October the City Council directed the staff to develop some reasonable performance standards for the
continuation of the current and future commercial industrial use of the building. As you recall there was a
non-conforming industrial use in this property. An old machine shop there and over time it has been used
for other uses. So back looking at the section of the City Code, the City Council and non-conforming
land use can be changed to another non-conforming if it’s less intensity and it’s in the public interest and
in these instances the applicant has the burden of proof so what we did is tried to go back and look at the
history. There’s not a lot of records in some of this older documentation but to the best of our ability we
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worked with what we had for records back in 1987 and then the 1995 structure which contained the wood
working, Precision Finishing, small part painting and then the Roger Mclearen rebuilding of motorcycles
so those were some of the documentations that we had on the record. So the request was then for the K2
Electrical Service, warehousing. Lake Country Builders, warehouse, and Custom Storage so what we
were trying to do is kind of classify those type of uses and how they’re being used. Whether it’s kind of a
studio or kind of outside, inside type uses. Warehousing. Storage. Actual building use so we tried to
categorize them that way. So we did note also that the woodworking shop is the continuation of the
previous non-conforming use. Again just to put in context, this was precipitated by the, a use coming into
their maintenance lawn care service that was not part of it. It had outdoor storage which was a change in
character so to go back and look at kind of what, how the uses being. How the property was being used
and have the staff try to quantify that. Again trying to look at the warehouse storage. What was in the
building and what was on the outside of the building. So with that, and an annual report of the tenants of
the building we are recommending that maybe not, it says in January of each year but it might be
something that every time there’s a change, that the owner notify us. We do not have a business license
requirement so if there’s a change that the building would let the City know that there’s a change in tenant
there. Then we would also make sure that they meet the standards of those permitted uses, which I’ll go
through. Or the performance standards, which I’ll go through in a minute. So also letting us know if a
tenant vacates. The new leases, as I stated, and that they meet the performance standards. And then any
other use submitted to City Council for approval of a change in use so again, anybody can request those.
We look at the intensity. The goal is to move away from the non-conforming towards less, lesser use. So
again the other thing that was brought up from some of the neighborhood, trying to quantify as we learn
sometimes if we leave things vague at what the interpretation of outdoor storage, where it can be located,
we want to quantify kind of that current parking space and limit that to what’s shown in kind of the hard
surface right now so that there wouldn’t be an additional parking on the grassy area or if somebody
needed that to use it for their space. The performance standards themselves are what we worked on with
the owner of the building and also we did have a neighborhood meeting to kind of go through what their
concerns. Again I think the neighbors concern was definitely the traffic issues. Again this is non-
conforming. As it’s being operated today there isn’t that much traffic but the concern is a use would be in
there that wouldn’t meet that, these performance standards and we believe that these standards should
direct it. Clearly the lawn care business did not meet those standards of a lot of trips coming in and out.
Lot of outdoor storage so the performance standards that we have here before you now are what we’re
recommending. We did add one, and that’s what I showed you on the parking. That vehicle parking be
limited to the existing compacted gravel area so the performance standards then would be that the
business be conducted inside the building so there’s not outdoor activity. Office use is prohibited. Artist
studios are permitted. Working shops are permitted. Indoor storage for small businesses. That’s how
some of them are being used right now. They’re using it to store equipment. Outdoor storage is
prohibited. No mechanical or electrical equipment required voltage. Excess of 220 volts shall be used in
the conduct of any business and no traffic generated by any business in greater volume that would be
normally expected in a residential neighborhood. And again that’s why we’re asking if someone was to,
if a use was to change that we be made aware of that so we can check to make sure that they meet these
standards. Again that there’s no retail type operation where people are coming and going to exchange
product or expect a sale. Then exterior parking be limited to one trailer or vehicle per business. I think
one of the concerns you might hear tonight is limitation of number of businesses in there and then parking
of commercial vehicles. Trying to quantify the size and the pounds to kind of what we consider a
neighborhood use and then limiting where they would be stored. So with that those are the standards that
we’re recommending. Again based on our meeting with the neighborhood and trying to take your
direction that we weren’t going to make it go away but try to make it less, quantify that and make it as
acceptable to the neighborhood, how it’s been operating in the past few years before we ended up with the
lawn care business. So with that we are recommending that you approve the resolution with the
modification of the one additional thing on parking and with that I’d be happy to answer any questions.
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Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions for staff. Mr. McDonald, question.
Councilman McDonald: When I read through the report, something I’m confused about is the parking as
far as the workers are concerned. You say that what happens is they generally come there, load up and
then go off site. By having two spots, is that two spots for the workers or is that two spots for the
business and there could be more parking if they had a crew of 3 or 4? I’m not clear as to what we’re
recommending as far as workers.
Kate Aanenson: Well no more than 2 parking spaces per business so if there’s trucks, how it’s being used
right now, if they would load up or not as long as it didn’t exceed that. So if one business was using more
than that, then that would be something that would not be in compliance.
Councilman McDonald: No, I’m not talking about vehicles for the business. What I’m talking about is
people who come there to work. They load up and they go off site. Did they bring cars? How many
parking spots would they have? Is it limited to the 2 per business or would we allow, say it’s a crew of 3.
Well they come up with 3 cars. Would we allow that? I’m not clear if we would or wouldn’t.
Kate Aanenson: The intent was 2 parking spaces per business.
Councilman McDonald: Okay, and so that would include if they have workers, they only get 2 slots and
that’s it?
Kate Aanenson: (Yes).
Councilman McDonald: Okay. Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Other questions for staff?
Councilman Laufenburger: Thank you Mr. Mayor. Ms. Aanenson, how many actual businesses are
currently in this building?
Kate Aanenson: Right now we’ve identified the 5.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay, 5. And do any of those businesses occupy 2 spaces? Or are they 5
equally sized businesses?
Kate Aanenson: They’re not equally sized.
Councilman Laufenburger: So is it, if for example one of those businesses were to leave and 2 businesses
came in, would that be allowed?
Kate Aanenson: Yes.
Councilman Laufenburger: As long as they tell us what the businesses are and as long as we approve
them as agreeable.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct. It’s driven by the performance standard so if they met all of the
performance standards, correct.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay. And is there enough parking space to accommodate up to 2 spaces for
all the business locations?
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Kate Aanenson: That would be what we would check. If there wasn’t enough parking for another
business to go in there, then there’d be reason for us to say that you do not meet the performance
standards.
Councilman Laufenburger: Gotch ya.
Kate Aanenson: So that’s kind of the check and balance.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay. And just one reference here, you’re saying exterior parking of one
trailer or vehicle per business is permitted.
Kate Aanenson: Yes.
Councilman Laufenburger: But you’re allowing 2 parking spaces so are you requiring that the other
parking space always be empty?
Kate Aanenson: Well that would be a decision they would have to make. How they want to operate it but
they would have to have a maximum 2 per business.
Councilman Laufenburger: So if a business, let’s for example let me go to one of them for just a moment.
Say Larry Bremm. The artist workshop. If he wants to have a trailer outside where he stores maybe a
trailer that meets the performance conditions and stores tools and if he has 2 parking spaces then he can
come to his workshop in 1 car, then he’ll have a trailer and a car in his 2 spots. Would that be acceptable?
Kate Aanenson: Yes. He gets 2 spaces. How he chooses how he uses them. That’s how it’s written.
Councilman Laufenburger: Then I’m wondering if you should exclude the limitation of exterior parking
of one trailer or vehicle per business is permitted. If you give them 2 spaces, if you give them 2 spaces
then they should be allowed to use those 2 spaces even if it’s 2 vehicles or a trailer and a vehicle. Does
that make sense?
Kate Aanenson: Yes, except that you wouldn’t want them to use 2 trailers.
Councilman McDonald: If I could, okay is that where the 22 feet comes in because you’re limiting them
to 22 feet but no parking spaces 22 feet in length unless we’re, unless I’m missing something here. I
mean a parking space is maybe 10-12 feet?
Kate Aanenson: Well our typical parking space are actually 9 by 26 is a typical parking space so. So it
could fit in there.
Councilman McDonald: Okay.
Kate Aanenson: I guess our intent is that you didn’t take your 2 parking spaces and use them for trailers.
There could be an abundance of trailers out there so the intent is if you get 2, then you could use 1 for the
trailer parking. And again that’s not how it’s being used right now. We’re again just trying to anticipate
any changes.
Councilman Laufenburger: I certainly understand the, you don’t want to have potentially 20 trailers out
there, right?
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Kate Aanenson: That’s correct.
Councilman Laufenburger: No, 10 trailers out there I guess. You wouldn’t want that but if somebody
has a legitimate business let’s say for maybe a 12 foot trailer and then they pull up in their car, it’s quite
possible they’ll pull their car in the morning and then they won’t leave until the end of the day, that means
that trailer and the car would be violating the performance requirements.
Kate Aanenson: No.
Councilman Laufenburger: Exterior of one.
Mayor Furlong: They’d use the 2 places but I think the inconsistency potentially here is that the exterior
parking of 1 trailer or vehicle per business is permitted so.
Councilman Laufenburger: That’s what sounds inconsistent to me Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: I think if there are 2 spots, maybe limit it to 1 trailer. So that would give them a vehicle
and a trailer or 2 vehicles.
Kate Aanenson: That’s the intent.
Mayor Furlong: Is that the intent?
Kate Aanenson: That’s the intent.
Mayor Furlong: So it sounds like we need to.
Kate Aanenson: Clarify that.
Mayor Furlong: Strike the “or vehicle”.
Kate Aanenson: Okay.
Mayor Furlong: Would that then, then they’d work consistently I think. Mr. Laufenburger is that?
Councilman Laufenburger: I think it does and I would.
Mayor Furlong: I think it’s reasonable.
Councilman Laufenburger: And I would actually defer to the users of the facility, does that satisfy them
that there’s 1 trailer and then an empty spot for a worker to pull in or leave.
Mayor Furlong: Well and we’ll have an opportunity. I think the applicant’s here so we’ll have an
opportunity to hear from the applicant tonight too.
Councilman Laufenburger: That was my only question. Thank you Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Other questions for staff? Just for understanding, we say one of the, again on
traffic will be generated at a volume that would normally be expected of a residential neighborhood. I’ve
heard numbers, what is a, what’s our expectation trips per day or, and I know it will vary but what do we,
what’s a typical residential neighborhood traffic?
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Kate Aanenson: Yeah, I mean you’re going to have delivery trucks in. You’re going to have the trash
truck in. The mail carrier. School bus, I mean so.
Mayor Furlong: And even just normal coming’s and going’s for the home themselves.
Kate Aanenson: Correct. Correct. Correct. So that’s exactly, so it’d be the same number of trips that
you’d expect for a residential.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Alright. So the point is it’s not just the expectation that a car will come in the
morning and stay there all day and leave. That there’ll be other vehicles coming and going.
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: And perhaps vehicles coming and going from those businesses themselves during the
day.
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Good. Any other questions for staff at this point? If not, is the applicant here?
Ms. Carlson, if you’d like to address the council on anything. We may have some questions as well.
Naomi Carlson: Hi. I’m Naomi Carlson.
Mayor Furlong: Good evening.
Naomi Carlson: And I have one question too so I don’t know if you want to ask your’s and then I ask
mine or.
Mayor Furlong: No, we’ll start with your’s first. If you could just state your address for the record, for
the please, I’d appreciate that.
Naomi Carlson: Oh, okay. 5955 Cathcart Drive, Excelsior.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Why don’t you go ahead and give any comments or questions if you’d like
to.
Naomi Carlson: Okay. I think the conditions are fine. I have one question though. You’re excluding
office use and I’m wondering why because I would think that would be a pretty good use for some of the
space. A quiet office so do you mind telling me why you put that in there.
Kate Aanenson: I guess looking at the non-conforming and the traffic, I guess I’d let the council if they
wanted to give some feedback on that. I guess when you look at office space, if you limited that, that’s
where you could have quite a few. If it was just individual office, someone that wanted to use it.
Naomi Carlson: Yeah. I mean not with, I mean maybe like a, if a psychiatrist or psychologist would
have one client at the time but nobody’s ever approached me for that but just for private, for a private
office without people coming and going. No sales or anything like that. I’m just curious. Right now I
don’t have any plans for but I have been approached in the past and I would think that that would be a
suitable use for it.
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Mayor Furlong: Alright. And we’ll, that’s a good question. We’ll talk about that when the council
discusses that.
Naomi Carlson: Okay.
Mayor Furlong: And that’s a fair question. Any other comments? You said generally the performance
standards seem okay to you.
Naomi Carlson: Yes they do. Yeah.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Naomi Carlson: In the future, I’m working really hard to get my house sold so that I have some money to
put into the building. Until somebody comes along and wants to buy it and put some homes there, but as
long as I’m using it I might want to talk with somebody about rearranging parking or something you
know so that it’s, it looks better. Looks nicer and that sort of thing so that’s the only comment I have I
guess.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Naomi Carlson: Would you like me to stay up here or sit down?
Mayor Furlong: Why don’t you stay here in case there are questions.
Naomi Carlson: Okay.
Mayor Furlong: Any questions for Ms. Carlson? One of my questions really was your opinion on the
standards so I appreciate you talking to that. There was the other question that Mr., Councilman
Laufenburger brought up about the 2 parking places and allowing 2 vehicles. A trailer and a vehicle or 2
vehicles. Does that seem agreeable to you?
Naomi Carlson: Yes, that’s fair. That’s you know, right now there’s only, there are 2 that have a trailer
or a truck there that are left overnight where they come during the day but then somebody mentioned
Larry Bremm. He’s the one right now who does have the trailer with his supplies and things in it so, so I
would hope that he would be allowed to continue to do that.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Alright. Any other questions for Mrs. Carlson? Okay, very good. Thank you.
Naomi Carlson: Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Appreciate it. Ms. Aanenson, there was a neighborhood meeting as well.
Kate Aanenson: Yes.
Mayor Furlong: How many people attended that?
Kate Aanenson: I’m not sure of the exact count.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Kate Aanenson: Actually Bob Generous held that meeting. I know some of the residents are here.
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Mayor Furlong: Yes, and I just wanted to, I don’t know if everybody that was at that meeting is here or
maybe there are other people but certainly if there are some of the residents that would like to provide the
council with some comments, be happy to listen to that at this time too.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, I was just going to say. There was a pretty good summary based on what
happened at that meeting. A perspective of that and I think that was mostly the traffic generation and I
think again that was precipitated by the use that kind of made us re-examine how the use is being, the
property is being used and make sure that we have good information on how it’s being used. Who’s in
there and the traffic and the like so I think that was the biggest issue.
Mayor Furlong: Alright. Okay, thank you. Are there some members of the public that would like to
provide comment to the council? Good evening.
Marcus Zbinden: Good evening. My name is Marcus Zbinden. I live at 6460 Bretton Way.
Mayor Furlong: Good to see you, thanks.
Marcus Zbinden: Mr. Mayor, members of the council, I have a few comments regarding the proposal
here. The residents in our neighborhood have tolerated the existence of the business located at 6411
Bretton Way because some commercial business was present when we moved in. Over the years many
things have changed as tenants moved in and out. The building has clearly gotten older and the property
owner has allowed it become an eyesore. Now we’re in a situation where the property owner continues to
collect rent from the business and the apartment that they own next door and allows the building to
become an eyesore and it’s in disrepair like I had mentioned. Meanwhile the neighborhood, the people
who live in the neighborhood are negatively impacted because our property values have decreased
because of that property and I’d like to see that somehow addressed because as of right now the
Chanhassen building officials have been sending the property owner notices regarding the violations but
at this point nothing’s been done regarding repairing the outside of the building. I have read the
information drafted by Mr. Generous and have the following comments. In the summary of the
neighborhood meeting that was just mentioned, he lists two main concerns about the property which are
traffic and of course the poor maintenance. There’s a third issue that is also a major concern of residents
and that is the outside storage which you’ve also discussed a little bit here. In particular the trailers and
the vehicles. In the performance standards staff does not place a limit on the number of businesses
allowed. Currently there’s 5. At one point there was 6 before the lawn care service left but there’s no,
nothing preventing them other than the parking restrictions there that would limit the number of
businesses in that structure. Staff has stated that there will be no materials and equipment allowed to be
stored outdoors. This is in contradiction when you include the standard which allows each business to
have a trailer. Most contractors use trailers for storing equipment and material so those two items are
contradiction with the other and certainly we do not want to see, the neighborhood does not want to see 5
to 6 trailers stored there permanently with trucks as well. That’s also an eyesore and that’s currently not
happening. When we moved in there was no trailers at all in that location. They have been added over
the years but when we moved in there wasn’t any so that’s something new to us. So my request would be
for the City to require the owner to come into compliance with the building code violations. I’d like to
see a limit placed on the number of businesses allowed and I’d also like to see the elimination of any
outside storage including the trailers and the trucks. Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Any questions for Mr. Zbinden? No? Thank you. Others that would
like to provide comment.
Sara Harvey: Hello Mr. Mayor, City Council. Sara Harvey.
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Mayor Furlong: Good evening.
Sara Harvey: I live at 6281 Teton Lane in Chanhassen. I just wanted to say that I agree with everything
that Marcus just stated and really our concern, another concern is we just want the property owner to be
held accountable. As Marcus stated she has been asked several times to bring the property into
compliance with the ordinances and has been you know delaying the process and not been held
accountable so I guess one question I have, I don’t know if I can ask a question but I’m wondering what
would happen if she doesn’t comply with the performance standards and the conditions laid out and if at
all possible if we could put something into the performance standards that if she doesn’t comply with
them that she would lose that ability to have those non-conforming uses.
Mayor Furlong: Well let me go to staff and perhaps this is the City Attorney if necessary but once the
performance standards are in place, if there’s non-conformance with them what would be the process?
As you both look at each other.
Roger Knutson: I didn’t want to step on what she was going to say, sorry. Well there’s several things.
First you’d send out a letter saying you have to come into compliance.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Roger Knutson: And if she didn’t we could have a, there’s a couple options. One would be to bring an
injunction action to require her to roll back to what’s allowed and stop violating these requirements or
potentially a criminal citation.
Mayor Furlong: And initially that would be at the staff level that those, and that’s typical. That’s not
unique to this situation.
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: Any type of non-conformance, non-compliance I should say. Non-compliance would be
interpreted or viewed by the staff and evaluated I assume and then appropriate steps would be taken.
Roger Knutson: Sure.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah I just wanted to separate the two issues here. What we’re addressing in this is the
performance standards. Certainly the neighbors would like to see the nexus between the property
maintenance. We are pursuing that on a separate track. This is what the direction of the staff all based on
what you asked us to do and that was to try to get a clear picture of how the building’s being used and
who’s in there. The other issue is still ongoing between the applicant’s attorney and our attorney’s office.
Some things are time sensitive or temperature sensitive so we are working through those issues.
Mayor Furlong: That’s with regard to the building maintenance.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct. And so we will get with the applicant is working on those so we are
moving forward on that so again it’s, has to do with seasonal issues that we can’t address when there’s
snow on the ground so we, some things haven’t been taken care of but we’re moving forward on that
issue so that, we didn’t put that as a part of this but that is a separate track we’re working on.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
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Sara Harvey: So yeah, I mean we understand that it’s a separate issue. We just felt like it’s, we still feel
that it’s relevant to the case of allowing her to continue to rent or to rent to new tenants if the building is
potentially unsafe or hazardous and some of these things haven’t been dealt with so that’s where we’re
coming from. And then again I second just what Marcus said about the concern about the additional
vehicles and the way that these performance standards are worded is that it could potentially allow for an
unattended consequence of allowing for an intensification of the use and a legal intensification of the use
if you allow these two vehicles for property and then all of a sudden you have a landscape company come
in again and they’re parking vehicles and trailers outside so that’s our concern with that so thank you very
much for your time.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Question on the outside storage and the trailer Ms. Aanenson. Is the
intention with allowing a trailer, if there’s storage it would have to be inside that trailer or a vehicle? It
couldn’t be outside a vehicle or trailer, is that?
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct and that kind of goes back to the question of the one trailer so that would
prohibit somebody that’s main business would be hauling trailers to construction sites.
Mayor Furlong: Two trailers would not be allowed under these standards?
Kate Aanenson: Right, so that wouldn’t allow somebody that has a large construction business or
landscaping business to store all those trailers out there overnight. Having said that, if you had 5
different types of businesses, it did allow for you know you could have one per of those businesses.
Again we have to look at all those on an individual cases. I think part of the issue there is we tried to
more carefully look at the landscaping requirements on that. They’re limited in where they can park.
Keeping the drive aisles clear and that sort of thing so that’s part of the performance standards too to be
able to park on site and still provide circulation in the area.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Thank you. Others that would like to provide public comment this evening.
Good evening sir.
Daniel Feller: Good evening. Daniel Feller, 6430 Bretton Way. Just a couple questions I have with
restrictions or the rules for the different people who can be in there. Is the first on the traffic. My concern
with that is if we allow 2 vehicles per tenant of this building, that’s at least 10 cars there at least the 5
businesses that are located in there and there’s nothing you know saying that we can’t, you know that they
can’t split these businesses up and actually have 10 businesses there which is not 20 vehicles. Basically it
turns our, you know the neighborhood into a big parking lot across the street from my house. Not
something that I care to look at so I’m kind of curious if there’s any limits on how many businesses can
be in here as well as you know the total number of cars for the overall property in itself. And then the
second part which kind of goes you know with it, the businesses is just hours of operation. You know
when can these people be coming and going and loading their vehicles up and you know making the noise
across the street from our house so those are my two comments for that.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Ms. Aanenson any discussion with Ms. Carlson on either of those two
issues? The businesses or the hours of operation.
Kate Aanenson: Well you know I guess I’d go by our typical nuisance ordinance for loading. What we
would have like in a development contract. Not before 6:00 a.m. Done by 9:00.
Mayor Furlong: Is that part of our current ordinances or noise ordinances?
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Kate Aanenson: Our nuisance ordinance. That’d be mowing lawns, that sort of thing. Typically if
somebody’s doing work inside a building, if someone shows up to work and they’re working inside their
building, we don’t regulate that because there’s no exterior noise if someone was to pull up. I guess how
we looked at it too, if you could 4 homes on here what would typically be generated by that type of traffic
and it’d be similar. If you look at the type of uses and that’s really how we came up. If you look at the
history of this building, I’m not sure we’ve had a lot more, you know maybe would there be 10 businesses
in there? It hasn’t happened but to say it couldn’t, don’t want to say that but again based on the parking.
The only thing you, we could do more specifically is try to assign some sort of parking matrix to that to
limit that if you could get more than, if all 10 businesses went in there.
Mayor Furlong: Well I think one of the, if I’m looking at this correctly your, if you could bring up your
performance standards again on the screen. The item you added at the bottom, vehicle parking be limited
to existing compacted gravel. That indirectly places a limit on, if businesses can have 2 vehicles, there’s
at least a limit there. I don’t know with that space and how it configures both from an area standpoint.
How many that would be but, and I’ll provide a comment here maybe stepping out a little bit. If one
business is currently taking up more space than the other businesses and if the large tenant leaves, then
you’re limiting somebody to that large tenant as opposed to possibly doing something more economical
with that space so that’s what I’m a little concerned about picking a number of businesses but we have
some other parameters in terms of property use and the external use of the property with what’s being
proposed here with regard to number of places as well as where vehicles can park and I think one of the
things, if I recall when we had this back in October, we had the landscape company parking in the back of
the building or the north side of the building I should say.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct.
Mayor Furlong: On the grass and so I think that’s precipitated this last proposal here that it would be
limited to the gravel parking area which Ms. Carlson I assume that’s part of, that seems reasonable to you
on that so. Mr. Gerhardt, thoughts or comments.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, council members, you could put in a maximum. You know not to exceed 10
parking spaces. You have that authority.
Mayor Furlong: And so it’s nice to know what our options are there again I think this last component
helps with that a little bit in terms of limiting where the vehicles are. How much space there is for
vehicles to park so. So okay, thank you for that. Anyone else that would like to provide? So I guess
getting back to Mr. Feller’s question about hours of operation, if I’m not mistaken, our existing
ordinances would likely cover any noise issues or nuisance issues.
Kate Aanenson: Right we would handle it, yeah we would handle it the way we would with any other
nuisance. Making loud noise after those same hours.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Alright, thank you.
Jerry Story: I’m Jerry Story. I live at 6281 Teton Lane. Right behind 6411. There’s still outdoor
storage going on on the property. That’s been 5 months since they’ve been notified. Especially on the
east end there’s still outside storage. There’s a pick-up cover that’s leaning up against the building. I
think that’s actually in the front of the building. I’m concerned about parking in back of the building also
because the roadway’s only like 8 or 10 feet wide so there’s actually no way vehicles could park back
there without blocking. In other words if there was 2 vehicles, one would be blocking the other and
there’s no way to get around.
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Councilman Laufenburger: Mr. Story, when you say the back, you’re talking about the north side of the
building, is that correct?
Jerry Story: The north, yes.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay, thank you.
Jerry Story: Yes. And another concern I have is to take up these parking spots, what if they allow
someone who’s not even a tenant to take up one of those parking spots with a trailer or whatever?
There’s no way that we’re going to know this.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Jerry Story: Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you Mr. Story. Others that would like to provide public comment this evening.
Okay, thank you. I appreciate everybody’s thoughts and comments on that. Council, discussion.
Thoughts. Questions. Questions for staff. Mr. Laufenburger.
Councilman Laufenburger: Just a comment Mr. Mayor, thank you. Kate, let’s go to the phrase the
performance standards. Outdoor storage of materials and equipment is prohibited. Would it be more
accurate to say that unenclosed outdoor storage of materials and equipment is prohibited? Because what
you’re saying is if the business has, I think Ms. Carlson said that Bremm Restoration, they have a trailer,
or he has a trailer where he keeps tools. That’s acceptable according to these performance standards but
if he had wood that he leaned up against the side of his business, you wouldn’t want that to happen, right?
Or would that be acceptable? You understand my comment?
Kate Aanenson: Yes. Yes I do. I’m just trying to think that through. How some people run their
business. If you set something out there temporarily for 24 hours or you know whether it’s a continuous
storage issue. So the intent is that we don’t have things piled up on the site.
Councilman Laufenburger: But if they’re piled up inside an enclosed trailer, we don’t care about that.
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Councilman Laufenburger: Or that would be acceptable.
Mayor Furlong: Under these standards.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah so, I mean are you saying except for a.
Mayor Furlong: I think it’s a question. I don’t know if it’s a recommendation.
Councilman Laufenburger: It is a question.
Kate Aanenson: Well where I’m going with that is, if someone was to build little structures out there to
put outdoor storage, to add additional buildings to cover them up so I think we’re saying outdoor storage
is prohibited. The caveat to that would be, the fact that you can have a trailer. That it may have some
storage in it. So I think it’s.
Councilman Laufenburger: Outdoor storage except inside an approved trailer is prohibited.
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Councilwoman Ernst: So it has to be enclosed.
Councilman Laufenburger: I’m not trying to craft your language here. I’m just trying to paint a picture in
my mind that would prohibit or that would satisfy what Mr. Story described as some things leaning
against the east side of the building. That sounds like that probably shouldn’t be here according to these
performance standards which the council is considering tonight.
Kate Aanenson: Correct. That’s correct.
Roger Knutson: Mayor and council, if it’s inside a trailer in my judgment it wouldn’t be outdoor storage.
We have limitations on outdoor storage all over in the whole city and no one, if you want, no one looks in
what I keep in the trunk of my car. That wouldn’t be considered outdoor storage.
Mayor Furlong: And I guess my thought would be, as much as we can allow our existing, this is just a
comment and be happy to listen to other. As much as we can keep the existing ordinances as.
Councilman Laufenburger: Governing.
Mayor Furlong: As governing we should do that because that’s what we’re trying to look at is what’s
unique here that has to be addressed because of the non-conforming nature of this building.
Kate Aanenson: Thank you Mayor, that’s what I was trying to say. It’s covered by the fact that you’ve
got, you can have a trailer. You can store in your trailer so I think it’s covered. That’s what I was saying.
Mayor Furlong: Yeah.
Councilman Laufenburger: Okay.
Kate Aanenson: Then we already have the nuisance ordinance which is addressing kind of the hours of
operation. If someone’s pulling in and going inside the building, that’s fine. You can leave your
residence at any time.
Mayor Furlong: Yep. That would be normal residential traffic, you can come and go 24 hours a day.
Kate Aanenson: Quietly, but if you’re you know starting up equipment or those sort of things outside
then that would fall within the nuisance which we already have in place. I think the one thing I heard you
say, state Mayor and that was, and it came from the residents, because our map is, does show this hard
surface up here. If that would be your intent to not permit parking in that area, I think that’s something
you may want to clarify if you do or don’t went it there.
Mayor Furlong: If it’s part of the existing gravel, I mean if you know if that’s where they’re limited then
that wouldn’t necessarily, if that’s where some of the parking places would be because that’s where
somebody’s business entrance is you know if we’re limiting it to 2, again I don’t want to speak for the
council. I’m just sharing some thoughts. We’re trying to limit it to what’s existing there now so as I read
that, what we, by saying existing, part of the non-conformance is we’re not looking at expansion of the
parking surface area beyond what’s there now. And that I think does bring in, because of the other
performance measure that’s being recommended of the two parking places per business that the existing
parking area does provide somewhat of a natural limitation on number of businesses as well. I don’t
know if that’s the existing 5. If it was 6 there before or not so that would be a function not only of the
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area obviously but access as well as configuration and such. Mr. McDonald, did you have a question or
comments?
Councilman McDonald: Well I’ve got a couple but to piggyback on what you’re talking about. If we
leave it to just what’s the existing parking, that will limit the number of businesses because again if
you’re saying that you’re only going to allow so many spots based upon that then at some point a business
comes in there and they’ve got no place to park so I think leaving it at the existing as you proposed Mr.
Mayor does address one of the issues that came up tonight. The other thing Ms. Aanenson that I wanted
to ask about that was brought up by a couple of people. They talk about they’re not in compliance with
either health or safety or standards inside the building. As part of all this did we inspect the building?
Kate Aanenson: We have for the code enforcement yes, and that’s the issues we’re working on. Yes.
Councilman McDonald: Okay, so there are ongoing issues and they’ve been identified and they’re being
worked.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct.
Councilman McDonald: Okay. That’s really it Mr. Mayor. I mean I agree in principle with what you’re
saying is we’re trying to keep from intensifying but yet we’re trying to define and stay within what the
ordinances would provide and I think that you know keeping existing parking does address some of the
issues and everything so thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Other questions for staff? If not, comments from members of council. Any
comments? Councilwoman Tjornhom.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: I think I’m satisfied with the improvements and some of the details that have
been worked out so I’ll be supporting this.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any other comments?
Councilwoman Ernst: Mayor I have a comment.
Mayor Furlong: Councilwoman Ernst.
Councilwoman Ernst: I just want to say that I appreciate the residents coming in and offering their
feedback on this property as well as staff working with the applicant to make the modifications but still
make sure that we’re conforming with the standards. And I certainly would support the resolution
because I feel that it, it’s working with all the groups. Especially if Kate you continue to work on the
maintenance piece of it. That was one that was brought up tonight and I think we need to make sure that
we’re addressing that as well but in my mind it feels like everything’s been addressed and I would
support it.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any other comments? No? Mr. McDonald.
Councilman McDonald: Yeah my comment to all this is, I understand the residents concerns and
everything and yet by the same token this was an existing, or this was an existing, I don’t know if you
want to call it business or residence or whatever but it was there. You admitted that yourself that there
were things there. I do agree that we need to do things to try to limit it to what was there before and not
to expand the business, which was part of the problems that you came with last fall. Yeah I wrestled with
this one for a long time. I really want to thank staff. I think you have put together something that looks
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as though it’s workable, at least in the near term. It by no means solves the problem. I think this is an
ongoing problem that’s going to need to continue to be worked and Mrs. Carlson I think she does
understand that there’s a lot of shortcomings that have to be taken care of. I mean in the long term there’s
a lot more that has to be done with this property. I understand part of the problem you have is money and
yeah, it does cost to have property. I think what we’re offering you here as far as the City and hopefully
what your neighbors will give you is a little bit of time but I do sense that patience will run out quickly if
improvements are not made that people within the neighborhood can see that you’re also doing your part
in all of this to again fit into the neighborhood and be a good neighbor but the way things are, I could
easily support it. I think we brought up a number of issues tonight to clarify some things that will help it
so I could support this.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Mr. Laufenburger any comments?
Councilman Laufenburger: Thank you Mr. Mayor. I appreciate comments from my colleagues about
this. I’m just reminded, not in a bad way but just in a subtle way that neighborhoods are made up of
people in different seasons of life, different circumstances, yet what I think are the most successful
neighborhoods are those where the neighbors recognize the differences between them and the people
around them and they reach out and perhaps help, assist, encourage, look out for, look after the other
people in the neighborhood and this is not, I’m not convicting anybody here. I just think there’s probably
circumstances involved here on all of the neighbors part that with a little bit of grace they might find it
quite acceptable to have the businesses that Mrs. Carlson has in that structure, that they could be
contributors to the neighborhood as opposed to what are currently described as detractors from the
neighborhood. The character of the neighborhood is made up of, made up by the characters in the
neighborhood. So I would just encourage that people would find ways to be good neighbors. Thank you
Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: Certainly thank you. I generally agree with some of the comments tonight. What I
would suggest some specific changes to the proposal that have come up tonight so whoever ends up
making a motion in terms of looking at some of these components. First of all Ms. Carlson asked about
office use. Second bullet point says office use is prohibited. I would think that that would be viewed as
perhaps the same or lessening of intensity as long as it follows the subsequent requirement that the traffic
volume be no greater than that expected in a residential neighborhood so I think to the extent the traffic
volume, which is what I’m hearing quite a bit is cars, vehicles coming and going, parking, office use to
me I think would be a permitted, could be a permitted use and I would suggest to the council that we
include it as a permitted use, realizing that there are safeguards both in terms of the parking requirements,
limitations, subsequently as well as the traffic volumes so I would certainly listen to other comments there
if people have some. The other bullet point that talked about, we talked about earlier which is the second
from the bottom in our council packet. I think it would be third from the bottom with regard to the
proposed, with regard to the exterior parking, that we strike the words “or vehicle” there and limit it to
one trailer per business. It would be third from the bottom on the screen now. I do agree with the
additional bullet point that’s been added here by staff at the council meeting that wasn’t in our packet
about limiting it to the existing gravel area because as we’ve discussed, Mr. McDonald talked about that,
that is a limiting component in terms of the other concern about number of businesses. The other thing,
looking at the other conditions of the motion, I would propose that we strike the annual report
requirement on the tenants. Some of these tenants have been there for many, many years. Really what I
think from a city’s role we’re interested is if there are changes. To the extent that they, item number 2.
Letting the City know if there’s a tenant vacancy because of the non-conforming component and the one
year requirement there of that use, that would be important. Something that we’d have to see. Also
notification of new tenants coming in and obviously seeking any changes would come to a council so I
think under the conditions, I don’t know that it’s necessary to receive an annual report. I just think that’s
putting an administrative burden on staff that I don’t know that we have to do and I don’t know what
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value it comes. If it’s just no changes so to the extent that there’s a request, a requirement for
notifications of tenant vacancies and new tenants coming in and for the purpose for staff to evaluate their
compliance with the performance standards I think those are reasonable and appropriate requests so it’d
be my suggestion that number 1 comes out and the other 3 be re-numbered. Any thoughts or comments
on that? Councilwoman Tjornhom.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Can I just ask staff why number one’s in there? That’s the one the mayor
wants to strike.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah. I’m looking for what you’re looking at. You’re looking at conditions.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: The annual report of tenants in the building.
Kate Aanenson: For that reason I think we’re perfectly comfortable. It makes more sense really to just
say if there’s a change in use we’d hold it up against the performance standards and we can certainly put
it on an agenda. Just informational to let you know there’s been a change. Communicate that, yeah.
Mayor Furlong: Yeah that’s fine. Or to the extent, like so many things that you do currently, which is all
sorts of stuff that we never hear about because it’s just handled administratively.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, correct.
Mayor Furlong: With normal code compliance requests and obviously anything that you think is
important for us to know, putting it into our council packets would be the proper way to do that.
Kate Aanenson: Agreed. Yeah.
Mayor Furlong: Does that answer your question Councilwoman Tjornhom? So, so again just looking at
my list here. Those I think were the components that I recommend but overall I want to thank everybody
that’s been involved. Ms. Carlson, the Story’s, Mr. Zbinden, Feller, other neighbors that are not here
tonight, finding a way. All this is about finding a way to try to balance everybody’s interest and work
together and my sense is it may not be perfect for everybody but I think we’re getting pretty close to
what’s a fair balance here and ultimately that’s what we’re looking to do so I would certainly support the
motion with the recommended changes. So would somebody like to proceed with a motion?
Councilman McDonald: I’ll do the motion. See if I can do justice.
Mayor Furlong: Mr. McDonald.
Councilman McDonald: I guess the first thing I would propose to the council is that we modify the
performance standards to include the addition of an office within this facility so long as it meets the other
performance requirements. Again that’s parking space and those types of things and also within the
performance standards does include the thing about normal neighborhood traffic so that would limit the
type of offices. Also and changing the wording down where it says exterior parking of one trailer.
Change that to exterior parking of a trailer. Does that fit within what?
Mayor Furlong: That’s fine. Ms. Aanenson, that’s okay?
Kate Aanenson: Yep, that’s great.
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Councilman McDonald: And then also then within the recommendation I would like number one,
renumber 2, 3 and 4 to be 1, 2 and 3. Then with that I would recommend that the council adopts that
motion as put forward by staff with the modifications that I have enumerated upon which would be
approving for the non-conforming uses at 6411 Bretton Way.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. I think that’s.
Kate Aanenson: Yep, just clarification, yes. We also put in your packet a resolution so I’m assuming
that’s also adopting the resolution.
Mayor Furlong: Adopting of the resolution. Is that resolution consistent with the change in the
performance standards…?
Kate Aanenson: Yes it is. Again trying to clarify the standards and our to zoning and the like so.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, and so adoption of the resolution Mr. McDonald would be part of your motion?
Councilman McDonald: Okay. Then I recommend we adopt the resolution.
Mayor Furlong: Thanks. Thank you. The motion’s been made. Is there a second?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Motion’s been made and seconded. Any further discussion? Or any discussion on the
motion? Further discussion on this item. Hearing none we’ll proceed with the vote.
Resolution #2013-20: Councilman McDonald moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded that the
Chanhassen City Council adopts the Resolution Approving Non-Conforming Uses at 6411 Bretton
Way with the following performance standards and conditions:
1. The City shall be notified when a tenant vacates the building.
2. The City shall be notified of new lessees prior to occupancy of the building. Such uses shall
comply with the performance standards approved by City Council.
3. Any other use must be submitted to City Council for approval of changes in use.
4. Performance Standards:
The business shall be conducted entirely within the building.
Office use is permitted as long as it meets the other performance standards.
Artist studios are permitted.
Woodworking shop is permitted.
Indoor storage for small business is permitted.
Outdoor storage of materials and equipment is prohibited.
No mechanical or electrical equipment requiring the use of voltage in excess of 220 volts
single phase shall be used in the conduct of the business.
No traffic shall be generated by any business in greater volume than would normally be
expected in a residential neighborhood.
No more than two parking spaces per business shall be permitted.
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No commodities, merchandise, or supplies shall be sold or offered for sale upon or from
the premises, whether at retail or wholesale.
Exterior parking of one trailer per business is permitted.
Parking of commercial vehicles in excess of 22 feet in length is prohibited. No
commercial vehicles in excess of 9,000 pounds gross weight shall be used in connection
with the business or parked on the property.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS.
Mayor Furlong: Southwest Metro Chamber of Commerce committee or board hosted a meeting this
morning at IWCO with, who was the host, with Councilman Representative Congress Paulson, thank you.
Screwing up my words so anyway it was, there was good attendance. Very good questions and it was
nice to see Congressman Paulson here in our town working with our businesses. There were some
questions that came up too about the businesses and trying to work with the high school and get more
internships involved and I think Mr. Gerhardt if we could follow up with that too. Bev over at IWCO
raised that question as well and looking for opportunities for high school students, especially those that
might be more interested in the industrial arts to seek and develop internships with our local businesses as
well. So it was a good meeting. I just want to on record thank Representative Paulson for coming to
Chanhassen and meeting with our area businesses. Administrative presentations, Mr. Gerhardt.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS.
Todd Gerhardt: Just one quick one. We do have a leaders meeting with 112 this Friday and so we can
bring that internship program with them. That’s it.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Gerhardt.
CORRESPONDENCE DISCUSSION.
None.
Mayor Furlong: We will continue our work session items immediately following the meeting and so if
there’s no other business to come before the council this evening, is there a motion to adjourn?
Councilwoman Ernst moved, Councilman McDonald seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in
favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. The City Council meeting was
adjourned at 8:05 p.m.
Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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