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CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
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MEMORANDUM + ✓ Div A-
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Date Submitted to Commission
FROM: Paul Krauss, Planning Director
1 DATE: April 22, 1992 We Submitted to Count
SUBJ: Final Plat for Oakwood Estates (Quinn)
1 On March 23, 1992, the City Council approved the preliminary plat for Oakwood Estates
to create one single family lot and two outlots as shown on the plans dated February 3,
1992, and subject to the following conditions:
1 1. The applicant shall provide an additional 7 feet of right-of-way along L
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Boulevard and shall dedicate a 60 foot wide right -of -way over the existing driveway
easement north to a point necessary for establishing a future street which will
continue north, turning east at the northwest corner of the Blosberg property, the
exact distance to be determined by staff.
' 2. The applicant shall enter into a driveway easement agreement satisfactory to the city
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releasing the city from liability or maintenance responsibilities over the private
driveways until the street (Quinn Road) is constructed to city urban standards. •
3. Outlots A and B cannot be replatted or built upon until sewer and water are
available to the site.
1 4. The existing gravel drive will have to be upgraded to urban street standards once
utilities are available and further lot subdivisions occur which utilize Quinn Road.
' The applicant has submitted a final plat for approval by the City Council. Condition #1 has
been provided for with the final plat and the applicant is in the process of providing a
driveway easement agreement as required in Condition #2. Conditions #3 and #4 remain
1 conditions of approval for when the property is proposed for subdivision in the future.
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1 Don Ashworth
April 22, 1992
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I RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends approval the final plat for #92 -3 Subdivision, Oakwood Estates, as shown
I on the plans dated April 16, 1992, with the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall enter into a driveway easement agreement satisfactory to the city
I releasing the city from liability or maintenance responsibilities over the private
driveways until the street (Quinn Road) is constructed to city urban standards.
I 2. Outlots A and B cannot be replatted or built upon until sewer and water are
available to the site.
I 3. The existing gravel drive will have to be upgraded to urban street standards once
utilities are available and further lot subdivisions occur which utilize Quinn Road.
ATTACHMENTS
1. Letter from Robert Sellers dated April 15, 1992.
2. City Council minutes dated March 23, 1992.
3. Final plat dated April 16, 1992.
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VanDoren
Hazard
Stallings, Inc.
Architects • Engineers • Planners
April 15, 1992 1
Mr. Paul Krauss
Planning Director
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Re: Quinn Property
VHS Job No. 92 -304
Dear Mr. Krauss:
We are requesting approval of the final plat for Oakwood Estates on
behalf of the Owners, Eugene R and Therese A. Quinn. Enclosed are
ten (10) full sized copies of the final plat. The plat has been
submitted to Carver County for checking. Also included is a copy
of an easement to be filed with the final plat. The plat includes
the additional right -of -way, (1) along Lyman Road and (2) at the
north end of Quinn Road as developed by the Engineering Staff, to
meet the conditions set as requirements for approval of the final
plat.
Mr. Quinn is having his Attorney draft the agreement releasing the
City from liability or maintenance of the driveway within the Quinn
Road right -of -way until such time as Quinn Road is constructed to
City urban standards.
If you have any questions or need additional information please
contact me.
Sincerely,
VAN DOREN- HAZARD - STALLINGS, INC. 1
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Robert L. Sellers
Enclosure
cc: Gene Quinn
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CITY OF CHA►Vh,yStN
3030 Harbor Lane North, Bldg. II, Suite 104, Minneapolis Minnesota 55447 -2175 (612) 553-1950
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An easement for ingress and egress purposes over and across
that part of Lot 1, Block 1, OAKWOOD ESTATES, according to
the recorded plat thereof, lying easterly of the northerly
extension of the westerly line of Quinn Road as dedicated in
said OAKWOOD ESTATES.
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CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 23, 1992
Mayor Chmiel called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.. The meeting was opened ,
with the Pledge to the Flag.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Chmiel, Councilman Mason, Councilman Workman, and
Councilwoman Dimler. Councilman Wing arrived during Consent Agenda item 1(b)
discussion.
STAFF PRESENT: Don Ashworth, Roger Knutson, Todd Gerhardt, Charles Folch, Todd II
Hoffman, Scott Harr, Paul Krauss, Jo Ann Olsen, Sharmin Al -Jaff, and Harold
Brose
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Councilwoman Dimler moved, Councilman Mason seconded to
approve the agenda as presented. All voted in favor and the motion carried.
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS: None.
CONSENT AGENDA: Councilwoman Dimler moved, Councilman Mason seconded to approve
• the following Consent Agenda items pursuant to the City Manager's
recommendations:
e. Resolution 992 -38: Approve Contract Amendment Nos. 1 and 2 for TH 5 Turn '
Lane Improvements at Lone Cedar Lane, Project No. 90 -9.
f. Approve Underground Service Contract, Lake Ann Park, NSP. '
g. Resolution 992 -39: Approval of Year End Closings and Transfers.
h. Approval of Bills.
i. City Council Minutes dated March 9, 1992
i� rommi•;;ion Minutes dated March 4,
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j. R, ', ';OH 992 -40: Approval of Election Judges and Establish Rate of Pay.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
A. PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT APPROVAL TO SUBDIVIDE 9.99 ACRES INTO 1 LOT AND 2
OUTLOTS, LOCATED NORTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF LYMAN BOULEVARD AND GREAT
6 , PLAINS BLVD., EUGENE QUINN/VANDOREN- HAZARD - STALLINGS.
l u f Fublic Present:
Name Address
Gene & Therese Quinn 532 Lyman Blvd.
Scott Harri Van Doren - Hazard - Stallings
Gary Skalberg 510 Lyman Blvd.
Russ & Orletta Frederick 540 Lyman Blvd.
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Name Address
Bailey & Mary Lou Jensen 500 Lyman Blvd.
Diane Riegert 520 Lyman Blvd.
' Leslie O'Halloran 550 Lyman Blvd.
Mayor Chmiel: I'd like to have Mr. Quinn or his representative come forward.
II They have a little of concerns for clarification and they'd like to bring those
up at this particular time.
Scott Harri: Your Honor, members of the Council. My name is Scott Harri and we
' appreciate the opportunity and your indulgence for perhaps getting things a
little bit out of order here. At the Planning Commission meeting 3 weeks ago it
was the applicant's intention to request a variance on Outlot A and it didn't
get included in the discussion at the time. Outlot A is the southern most piece
of the proposed subdivision of the Quinn property adjoining the proposed Quinn
Road. And through the conversations that the applicant and myself had with
staff in putting together this subdivision that you see before you this evening,
arrived at a number of considerations and one of the things is there's an
existing 50 foot wide driveway easement that is under the proposed 60 foot Quinn
Road right -of -way that is proposed to be platted. Outlot A was configured with
1 the City's subdivision ordinance in mind as far as a single family lot
arrangement. When we looked at lot arrangement in and around the storm water
. pond on this site, it became kind of a restriction as far as the depth of the
lot from what would be a proposed 30 foot setback line. The request that we
would like to make is for a 10 foot variance to the 30 foot setback along Quinn
Road on Outlot A. The impact to the City in this case is that visually the
houses that would be built along Quinn Road would have the same depth or
' distance from the edge of the street to the front of the house. There wouldn't
be any lessening of the length of the driveway or the visual distance that the
house would be from the edge of the traveled street and what that will allow
' then is for an adequate depth of the backyard for those, if any future housing
units built between the pond and Quinn Road. What we're doing right now and in
fact the variance would not necessarily be shown on the plat. It would run with
the Minutes of your action this evening and at such time that the Quinn's came
' in to develop Outlot A, that variance, if it was deemed reasonable and feasible
due to the nature of the housing and other final design criteria on the site
could be afforded to the applicant at that time.
Mayor Chmiel: Okay, Paul. When you had this before the Commission, as they've
indicated, that wasn't shown as that you have that as an Outlot A. Do you have
' any concerns with what Mr. Harri has indicated?
Paul Krauss: Well, we have some problem with the idea of pre - granting variances
without having lots present. It seems to bind the actions of a future Council
I which goes against some basic tenants of how we operate. On the other hand,
I understand Gene's concern. They are taking the full hit if you will for that
future road simply because they're the first one in. The driveway's on their
I property right now. We're not sure what the houses are going to look like along
that road in the future because we're frankly not sure where the road's going to
go. It's going to have to be rebuilt. There is no road there now. It's a dirt
driveway. We understand the concern. We're not sure excactly how we can deal
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with that. That's true, as Jo Ann points out. A variance is only good for a
year in any case and it's got to be used by that time and there's no way that
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this would be used by then. There's no utilities in this area.
Mayor Chmiel: Okay. I guess that's a good point. Charles, do you have any
concerns with this at all?
Charles Folch: I think the only thing, just to point out and you may be aware
of this already is the option of reducing the required right -of -way down to 50
feet. At some point in the future that additional 10 feet would have to be
acquired and if the road was being constructed before the properties to the east
would be subdividing or they may not even subdivide, it would be up to the City II
to acquire the additional 10 feet from the properties on the east and there
would likely be a cost associated with that. Just as long as you're aware that
if we grant the 50 foot right -of -way dedication at some point in time we'll
likely pay for the rest.
Mayor Chmiel: Okay. I see this now as a problem basically with it only being
good for one year as a variance. It would not be of any value for you to go
through that process because there's no services available at that site, nor
will be, for some time, and that means sewer and water. And I think too that
that probably should be something that would be done at the time we go through
with that platting of that particular Outlot A. At least that's the way I see
it and I'll throw it open to Council as well. Mike.
Councilman Mason: Yeah, with knowing that the variance is only going to last a
year, it would almost be pointless for us to take action on it. I would hate to
have a Council 6 -7 years from now look at something we've done and be bound by
that anyway. Unfortunately this almost seems fruitless just because anything we
do now is going to be somewhat irrelevant by the time you get around to
developing it. Do you understand what's going on here? So I guess I'm not
quite sure what to do. 1
Councilman Workman: I concur. I don't know that we'd be doing anybody any good
really anyway other than to pass on our strong concerns about it. Approving a
variance, do we even have the ability to approve a variance? I don't know that
we even have a solution.
Mayor Chmiel: Yeah, I don't see one right now. I really don't. Okay. 1
Councilwoman Dimler: I concur. I don't see that it would do anything... Maybe
Roger would have, do you have anything to say? 1
Roger Knutson: Maybe one more complicating factor. Obviously if you were even
to consider it, it would have to go back through public hearing and back through
the process and then it would be gone in one year. ,
Mayor Chmiel: Yeah, it wouldn't make any sense.
Roger Knutson: You'd be doing a lot of work for nothing.
Mayor Chmiel: Yeah. They would be doing as well. So with that, we can accept
the preliminary plat as you provided us and final plat approval to subdivide
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that with what was carried through at the Planning Commission without that 10
foot variance on Outlot A. If you're in agreement with that, I would so move
that we accept item 1(a).
Councilwoman Dimler: Second.
1 Mayor Chmiel moved, Councilwoman Dialer seconded to approve preliminary and
final plat to subdivide 9.99 acres into one lot and two outlots located
northeast of the intersection of Lyman Blvd. and Great Plains Blvd. without the
10 foot variance on Outlot A. All voted in favor and the motion carried.
' B. FINAL PLAT APPROVAL, WILLOW RIDGE ADDITION (LUNDGREN /ORTENBLAT/ERSBO).
(Councilman Wing arrived to the meeting at this point.)
Mayor Chmiel: Charles, could you give a little clarification this please?
Charles Folch: Thank you Mr. Mayor. If you turn to page 14 in your staff
report, I have just two items of clarification with the staff report. On page
14, condition number 10. The first sentence relating to the existing hydrants
being relocated. That first sentence should be eliminated. It was originally
placed as a condition with the thought that the entire plat would be constructed
' at one time but with the two phased approach this hydrant won't be needed until
Phase 2.
1 Mayor Chmiel: I'm glad you brought that up because I didn't have page 14 or 15
in my report..
Charles Folch: Oh. Well maybe I'll just read it off. Basically condition 10
should read, the Fire Department must approve street names and a 10 foot clear
space must be provided around hydrants. Additional hydrants are needed at the
intersection of Lake Lucy Road and the proposed public road. That should be the
remaining condition.
Mayor Chmiel: Alright.
Charter Folch: Then on the following page, item 15. Or on page 15, item 20
there was a question by the developer related to the need for the 30 x 30
utility easement over the lift station that is being located in that area.
' Unfortunately the lift station's going to be about 35 feet deep and if we ever
had to go in and repair or reconstruct that lift station, even with 1:1 side
slopes, you're going to be at least 30 feet out in every direction from that
' lift station so staff feels that that condition should remain. Those are the
only two points I had to make on item 1(b).
' Mayor Chmiel: Very good. With those two items so noted, any discussion?
Mike Pflaum: My name is Mike Pflaum. I'm with Lundgren Bros. Construction and
I had to wait until Charles make his comments before determining whether or not
' I was going to have to comment on something. I would like to comment on the
condition that requires the construction of a small portion of the future street
that would be the eastern portion of the site.
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