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MEMORANDUM
TO: Todd Gerhardt, City Manager
FROM: Todd Hoffman, Park & Recreation Director
DATE: December 2, 2003
SUB J:
Approval of Plans & Specifications and Authorization for Bids;
City Hall Remodeling Project
On October 27, 2003, the City Council approved the revised schematic design
for the City Hall Remodeling project and authorized the preparation of final
plans and specifications. The Council also directed staff to include a bid
alternate for a privacy wall for the kitchenette, to verify whether or not the
existing restrooms are ADA compliant and the appropriateness of using the
council chambers restrooms as an alternative, to look at replacing the benches
with chairs, and any other cost saving measures.
Attached please find the final construction documents for your review. Per City
Council direction, a kitchenette screen wall alternate has been incorporated into
the project. Please note that this alternate (#3) is presented as a deduct alternate
in lieu of an add alternate. The Architect feels this will result in better pricing
on this feature. Steve Torell, Building Official has verified that the restrooms
currently available in the Senior Center do not comply with the current
Minnesota Accessibility Code. The restrooms currently available outside the
Council Chambers are also not accessibility compliant. The new restrooms are
required on two accounts--first for additional restroom capacity to satisfy
occupancy loading, and second, the need to comply with Section 1341.0411,
Subpart 2 of the Minnesota Accessibility Code mandating that 20% of new
construction be allocated towards accessibility upgrades. Alternate #2 is a
potential deduct of the wood bench located at the north wall of the meeting room
corridor.
Copies of the plans have been distributed to all departments for final review
prior to bid award. The proposed project schedule calls for the advertisement of
the project, pending City Council approval, on December 10, with a bid opening
on Thursday, January 8, 2004. Upon giving a contractor notice to proceed, a six
month construction period is anticipated. This project is included in the city's
2004 Capital Improvement Program.
The City of Chanhassen o ;~, (lr,3'~'vir3,~ c)rr r!~j llty '¢~[ i ,;,8ir []!~ ;,:?, ,; i:
Mr. Todd Gerhardt
December 2, 2003
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RECOMMENDATION
It is recommended that the City Council approve the final plans and
specifications for the 2004 City Hall Remodel project and authorize staff to
advertise the project for bids on December 10, 2003.
ACTION NEEDED
A simple majority vote of City Council members present.
ATTACHMENTS
Report to Todd Gerhardt dated October 21, 2003
City Council Minutes dated October 27, 2003
Construction documents submittal including cover letter from KKE
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Bruce DeJong, Finance Director
Kate Aanenson, Community Development Director
Steve Torell, Building Official
Senior Commission
KKE Architects
Mr. Todd Gerhardt
October 21, 2003
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Two cost saving measures presented in the first proposal have been incorporated
in the updated plan. These include elimination of a divider wall, saving an
estimated $13,000, and elimination of the majority of the sheetrock in the
conference room ceiling, saving $7,500. Additional potential cost saving
measures include: eliminating the tile floor in the corridor leading to the elevator
($1,600), not replacing the existing ceiling tile and grid in the old library
($3,000), elimination of the bench seating outside the meeting room ($2,500).
RECOMMENDATION
The two options being proposed to finance these improvements are the sale of
bonds or the use of excess cash from the sale of the bowling alley, which is
estimated at approximately $300,000. The two financing options should be
considered as a part of the 2004 Capital Improvement Program approval
process. The option to bond for these improvements only became available in
the last legislative session.
It is recommended that the City Council approve the revised schematic design
submittal for the City Hall Remodel project dated October 27, 2003.
ACTION NEEDED: A simple majority vote.
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Bruce DeJong, Finance Director
Kate Aanenson, Planning Director
Senior Commission
KKE Architects
City Council Meeting - October 27, 2003
The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies
(e.g. Riley-Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District, Minnesota Pollution Control
Agency) and comply with their conditions of approval.
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Approval of Wetland Alteration Permit ~O3-1 shall be contingent upon approval of
Subdivision ~03-12.
AH voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
CONSIDERATION OF BUDGET FOR FORMER LIBRARY SPACE~ LOWER LEVEL
OF CITY HALL.
Public Present:
Name Address
Pat McGough
Mel Kurvers
Jean Mancino
Dale W. Geving
7230 Pontiac Circle
7240 Kurvers Point Road
820 Santa Vera Drive
7602 Huron Avenue
Todd Hoffman: Mayor Furlong, members of the City Council. With the opening of the new
library we have the vacant space next door to City Council chambers here for some remodeling.
Back in August staff presented a concept plan and a preliminary budget for remodeling that
space. Upon receiving the report that evening, hearing from members of the Senior Commission,
the council asked that staff take additional time in developing that plan. Specifically that we get
more input from the Senior Conunission. On September 19th a meeting involving KKE
Architects, members of the Senior Commission and staff was held at City Hall. The minutes of
that meeting are included in the attached schematic design package. The representatives were
very appreciative of having an opportunity to state their position regarding the project. Following
that meeting City Manager Gerhardt had the opportunity to meet with the Senior Men's and
Women's Club to discuss the plans. Lastly with a revised schematic design package available, I
had the opportunity to review that with the Senior Commission on this October 17th. The
commission approved the current plan with unanimous vote. Separate motion was entertained
concerning the inclusion of the kitchen appliances and that motion passed with one dissenting
vote. A revised preliminary construct estimate is included in your packet. I'd like to speak to
that directly prior to having the representatives from KKE step forward to discuss the layout of
the plan. The base bid amount is estimated $175,760 and that includes the general construction of
the space and then both the electrical and mechanical. General construction is estimated at
$125,760 for mechanical and electrical both estimated at $25,000 per package. The furnishing
estimate for all spaces is estimated at $50,390. Our contract with KKE has changed due to the
fact of the, just the expansiveness of the plan. How involved it's starting to get. There are 2 or 3
cooling systems that we're dealing with because of the separate spaces of the building. The
original construction, the second construction, so there's a variety of things that need to be done
concerning planned development design, plans and specifications. So we would like KKE to
perform that work for the city, including the city in construction management. Due to those
changes the cost of their contract has increased to $24,460. 'That's an additional $14,160 over our
original contract with KKE. The Minnesota Accessibility Code mandates that accessible
restrooms be made available, or accessibility improvements be completed when accessing spaces
or remodel. Currently there is no accessible restrooms available in the lower level of City Hall
The space for those restrooms has been roughed in and that brings the cost of completing those
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restrooms down significantly. The estimate for doing so is $27,950 and those are located just
across the hall from the existing senior center immediately across the hall from the congregate
dining kitchen. So the estimated project cost is totaling at $278,710 to date. Last time around we
talked about some cost saving measures. Those have been included in this updated plan and they
are the elimination of a dividing wall, which saved an estimated $13,000. And the elimination of
the majority of the sheet rock in the conference room ceiling which saved an additional $7,500.
There's some minor cost savings, items that have a potential and those include eliminating the tile
floor from the corridor leading to the elevator. That tile is included to create a uniform
appearance as you walk down that hallway. There's a potential to save $1,600 there. We could
stay with the existing grid ceiling and ceiling tile in the old library to save $3,000, and there's a
bench that is outside of the meeting room. We could eliminate that for an additional savings of
$2,500. Staff's recommendation is that the council approve the revised schematic design
submittal for the City Hall remodel project dated October 27th as submitted by KKE. There's two
options being proposed to finance these improvements. The sale of bonds or the use of excess
cash from the sale of the bowling alley, which is estimated at approximately $300,000. The two
financing options should be considered as a part of the 2004 capital improvements program
approval process. The option to bond for these improvements, just as a side note, only became
available in the last legislative session so that allowed the council to have two options to consider.
Now I'd like to have the representatives, Mr. Glen Gauger and Matt Masica from KKE to go over
the plan. Matt.
Matt Masica: Good evening council members and staff. Good to be here tonight. Mr. Hoffman
did a great job of kind of describing where we were and what we've done since and kind of where
we're at tonight so I guess I'll just kind of highlight on the plan the changes kind of between the
last plan and this plan and how, what those are so you get a better understanding about the issues
that were... So what we tried to do is, we starting out with the circulation corridor. We kind of
cleaned up those doors that are down there. We moved those. One item that was addressed in
our meeting with some of the members from the Senior Commission was to add some tile to the
kitchenette area and to add a door leading to the conference room. Kind of putting up both spaces
to each other. Moving the senior coordinator's office into the new senior center space was high
on their list, and I know as Todd had mentioned, kind of...these bathrooms that are...down there
was also an item that he really absolutely... So kind of a lot of what I was going to talk about
tonight, Mr. Hoffman covered for me so I guess if you have any questions.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions.
Councilman Peterson: Couple of quick ones. On the kitchen, a net kitchen aspect of it. Was
there ever any discussion of putting some kind of privacy wall between the appliances and the
rest of the group? I mean you usually see that in this kind of an open space. And the merits, pros
and cons of that.
Matt Masica: Yeah. In our last plan we did have an option in there for the foldable partition
wall. That was one of the items that was listed in order to kind of tweak the budget to, and that
was one of the items that Mr. Hoffman listed off tonight as something that could be deducted
from the plan.
Councilman Peterson: I guess I'm speaking more, 3 or ~ feet in front of the appliances and the
sink and the dishwasher. I wouldn't see that as a partition wall. I would see that as a permanent,
just to block the view so people who work in back of there, and again I'm just maybe providing
better feedback. The ones I've seen are, it blocks the noise and it blocks the view of some of the
stuff that may be going on, which is a minor dollar amount for putting up a simple wall, but
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something to consider Todd and maybe talking to the Senior Commission about it, but I mean
you kind of have that on the other side. You have the kitchenette kind of covered but, or
protected I guess and that certainly begs the other question. You've got two kitchens within 30
feet of each other, and the merit of that. Is it safe to assume then the Senior Commission is really
going to vacate the old space and just kind of move over to the new space?
Todd Hoffman: I think they needed both spaces during the day. And the reason for the, we
talked about eliminating one kitchen but we feel that during certain times both of these being used
by separate groups and cross accessing kitchens back and forth would be disruptive to the one
group utilizing the other room. So that was their reason to stick with the two kitchens. They'll be
used simultaneously for example during set up for congregate dining, while other activities are
going on in this new senior space, and so right now we have some overlap which causes conflict
between the different user groups.
Councilman Peterson: Okay. My last question regarding the ADA approved restrooms. The two
restrooms that are in there, I question that they aren't ADA approved now. I mean I think, as I
recall the minimum is 36 inches in front of the toilet, which I believe you have in both of those
respective bathrooms, but to build another set of bathrooms 15 feet away from the other ones is a
little bit disturbing. I don't know whether we can use the restrooms we have back in the council
chambers here to augment the space needed for that, and again I don't know whether or not you
can answer that question but it certainly begs to be answered.
Matt Masica: I guess in answer to your question, I haven't personally measured the existing
restroom facilities. I'm basing that off of conversations with Steve Torell of the.
Councilman Peterson: And again, I wasn't expecting you to necessarily know the answer but I
think it certainly, you know I think it needs to be, a question asked again. I just hate to spend
$27,000 on a bathroom, unless we need more physical space, and why couldn't we use the
restrooms back here in the city hall? City chambers restrooms. City Council Chambers
restrooms.
Todd Gerhardt: I think we need to verify to see if they are ADA compliant or not. I think Steve
had reviewed it at one point and found that they were not. They can be converted to ADA
compliant from what Steve explained to me but you would lose the urinal in the men's bathroom,
and one of the toilets in the women's to make the one stall bigger. But I think we need to verify--'-
if it's 36 inches or 48.
Matt Masica: Yeah, we were looking at this kind of this afternoon and looking at the IBC Code.
There was a question raised between Glenn and myself of whether or not the bathrooms would
have to be finished out just for the additional use, occupancy use of that space. I think you will
end up adding a significant amount of people in that area, and kind of our conclusion was that, or
our recommendation was that based on the type of use that this area has to be slated for, it was
our recormnendation to proceed with that.
Mayor Furlong: So it was necessary more from a use of the facilities as opposed to ADA
compliant issue?
Matt Masica: A little of both.
Mayor Furlong: Or both. Okay.
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Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, when I did speak to the senior men's and women's group, bathrooms
were an issue brought up by that group, and needing more of them in a convenient location was
expressed by that group.
Councilman Peterson: Well this certainly wouldn't be convenient to the new portion. The City
Council chambers restrooms would probably be closer than the new ones so, I don't know if
we've accomplished that goal.
Mayor Furlong: Other questions.
Councilman Ayotte: For the HVAC. Did you say you're running two additional HVAC to
handle the tech room and then. ~
Todd Hoffman: Yeah, we're modifying the existing system. Two different systems to
accommodate the new space. So modify two existing systems to.
Councilman Ayotte: Okay. Add that and the controls, does that include modification of the
control systems? Temperature control to accommodate the new space.
Matt Masica: Yeah, it should include that...
Councilman Ayotte: So if we're going to be affecting the two existing systems then, you would
be the...GC, responsible for re-cormnissioning the entire, all of the HVAC.
Matt Masica: Our engineers would provide the on site coordination for conservation of that
installation. Balancing that...
Councilman Ayotte: Well let me re-state it then. Whoever's going to GC this will ensure that
there's a total integration of, and the total system will be balanced.
Matt Masica: Yes.
Councilman Ayotte: That's all I got.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Other questions? Just some clarification. The few items that were listed-
as possible additional savings, and Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Masica. One was the tile floor leading to
the corridor. Is that a linoleum tile that you're using or is it something?
Matt Masica: It's a vinyl tile.
Mayor Furlong: A vinyl tile, okay. Alright. The cost didn't seem that significant I guess so I
was curious on the materials. What is the condition of the existing tile in the ceiling tile in the old
library. When was that put in and is that.
Todd Gerhardt: 1980.
Councilman Peterson: It's marginal to below average.
Mayor Furlong: Alright. So that's a potential $3,000 savings. And then the bench seating
outside the meeting room. I assume that's the long bench or what I see here. Is there a bench
outside the conference room and at that angular wall both?
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Matt Masica: Yeah there is.
Mayor Furlong: Alright.
Councilman Labatt: Where's the bench?
Mayor Furlong: At the angular ,wall and then also across from the council chambers. Mr.
Gerhardt, I think you spent a lot of time on this with Mr. Hoffman. From a utility of the area, do
you see that bench seating as, nothing's required I guess but from a functionality standpoint, and I
guess Mr. Masica too in terms of the use of the facility. All these questions relate to the three
items listed, it's about $7,000 out of $300,000 and I'm curious if there's a penny wise and pound
foolish nature to it. I'm not going to spend money we don't have to spend, but if what I'm seeing
here is everything's been pulled out possible except for a couple $3,000 items, or a couple
thousand dollar items, is that really what we're dealing with? These are the only potential cost
savings?
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, Council members. What I would suggest that you do those as a bid
alternative. If you're going to bid it out, let's get the true price. Nothing against our architects
but that's their best guesstimate of what it would cost to do that, so if we do it as a bid alternative,
you have a true cost in determining if you want to go ahead with that item or not.
Mayor Furlong: And I think that's a great suggestion. Are there other items then, and maybe this
is something we don't have to come up with tonight but I challenge the staff and the architect to
see if there are other items that might be listed as bid alternatives that we could look to in case it
comes in over what we think the budget might be, and if it comes in significantly less.
Councilman Peterson: One example of that would be, instead of a bench where you would
normally only have 2, maybe 3 people sitting at. In that same space you could probably have 4 to
5 chairs, which people would comfortably sit next to somebody in a chair, but they won't sit
comfortably next to somebody in a bench, and that would be a lot cheaper to have chairs then it
would be $2,500 bench.
Mayor Furlong: Well and I think, you know to your point Councilman Peterson with regard to a
wall or a privacy wall by that kitchenette area there, and design, that might be something from an
alternative standpoint.
Councilman Peterson: Yeah, I would agree. And again to clarify, that's not a full wall. It's
maybe a three-quarters wall or something that just again hides the nasty nature of.
Mayor Furlong: And that could be permanent or it might be a partition wall or something.
Temporary as well from a furnishing standpoint.
Todd Gerhardt: Matt was the bench, did that include the display case with the bench?
Matt Masica: There's two different bench areas right now in our plan. One is at this node here,
and that one is currently showing the display case. This iR another bench here, which I think also
has a great opportunity to be a display case, but at this point, as we're trying to kind of scale
things back, we didn't want to add to the project.
Todd Gerhardt: That's something we can add later on too?
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Matt Masica: Yeah.
Todd Gerhardt: For your costs associated with the deduct, did that include the display case as a
part of the bench or were they separate?
Matt Masica: The deduct was for this long bench, which did not include the display case.
Todd Gerhardt: Alright.
Matt Masica: In this particular area of the corridor, it's kind of the, some 'of the thought behind
that space is that it's really maximizing the existing space that's down there, so really all you're
doing is cutting one hole into the wall for that new door, and all the other walls are staying. So
you end up with a little bit wider corridor and so it kind of presents itself as an opportunity to
kind of be a design feature or highlight area along that corridor.
Mayor Furlong: One question I have, and this regards the financing so I don't know if you can
answer this Mr. Masica or not. And that, I don't know that we need to decide this tonight Mr.
DeJong, but the issue was raised whether we use cash or finance. Any idea what the potential
costs, financing costs would be, one. And two, is if we move forward next year with equipment
certificate, is there a possibility, even though there are different types of debt instruments that we
can consolidate them to reduce financing costs, if we choose to go with a financing route?
Bruce DeJong: Mayor Furlong, I don't honestly know if we can combine those into one
financing effort or not. I know that we have done joint financing of bonds issued under a couple
of different statutes at one other time but I don't know if it works in this instance. Not had time
to discuss that with anyone at Ehlers.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, and we don't have to decide that tonight. I assume.
Bruce DeJong: Yeah.
Mayor Furlong: I mean I think what staff has done here, which we asked them to do, was come
back with some possible funding sources which they've done.
Bruce DeJong: Now certainly I think that the furnishings would be under any other capital
equipment bonding that we would do, but I'm not sure about the physical alterations.
Mayor Furlong: Alright. Very good, thank you. Any other questions for staff at this time? Point
of clarification. The recommendation is to approve the schematic design. Are we going to be
requested at our next consent agenda or future meeting then to authorize solicitation of the bids?
Todd Hoffman: Yes.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Alright, very good. Any other questions? If not, thank you. Gentlemen,
I'll bring it back to council for discussion.
Councilman Peterson: Mr. Mayor, I think it's a space that we have a proven and defined need for
existing improvements and additional space for the seniors that we can use in concert with other
citizen groups for the space. Obviously they have priority but as we talked about before, there
will be other opportunities for other organizations and such to use the space, along with city staff.
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I think all of us are reticent to spend money but this is one of those things where it's for a good
public purpose that will last for years and years into the future so I'm supportive of moving ahead
with the caveat that the commentary that we've made tonight would be integrated into the
alternative bids. So that's it.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Other cQmments?
Councilman Ayotte: I agree.
Councilman Labatt: Ditto.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Councilman Lundquist: I would second Councilman Peterson's comments on needed space,
especially for large meeting rooms in this city. I guess I'll be interested to see what the financing
options come in at, and how that affects where we stand. I think we got some positive news on
cash flow, cash availability for next year, but $300,000 is still a large chunk of change so I'm
comfortable going ahead to, with the design and to look for some bids and hopefully also we can
get some competitiveness to come out and lower that cost as well.
Mayor Furlong: Very good, I agree. Comments well made. I think the, what I'll add too is, I'll
commend the staff and the Senior Commission, a number of the members are here this evening,
for working together to come up with a plan that's mutually agreeable, and it took a little bit
longer than I think people had hoped, or some people had hoped, but at least we worked through
the process and got something that works well. The price tag keeps going up so if we refer this
back for more, I'm concerned that we'll see a higher number next time so, at this point I feel
comfortable going ahead with this. I think this is an asset that we need to utilize. It's going to
cost some money to remodel it so that it can be utilized, but it is for the public good. I agree with
Councilman Lundquist. I'm hopeful that we'll get some pleasant news when we go out for bid,
but let's see what that comes back at. That will give us time to make some decisions with regard
to the source of funding as well. Any other comments on this? If not, is there a motion to
approve the revised schematic design as submitted and proceed?
Councilman Labatt: I'll move that we approve the revised schematic design with the Peterson
caveat. ~ -
Mayor Furlong: Very good. And we'll have to rely on... Yeah, let's state it specifically.
Councilman Peterson: I think it was bid alternatives for the privacy wall for the kitchen. It was
the, to verify that the bathrooms are ADA requirement and the appropriateness of essentially
using the council chambers restrooins as the alternative, and look at the benches as a bid
alternative to replace them with chairs. I think that was it.
Mayor Furlong: Perhaps broader, any other bid alternatives in terms of cost savings.
Councilman Peterson: Yes, certainly.
Councilman Labatt: Yep.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
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Councilman Peterson: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Is there any discussion?
Councilman Labatt moved, Councilman Peterson seconded that the City Council approve
the revised schematic design submittal for the City Hall Remodel project dated October 27,
2003, with the caveat of bid alternatives for the privacy wall for the kitchen, to verify that
the bathrooms are ADA compliant and the appropriateness of using the council chambers
restrooms as the alternative, to look at replacing the benches with chairs, and any other cost
saving measures. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to
0.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you everyone.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS:
Councilman Labatt: The only comments I'll make is, Westwood had their dedication ceremony
yesterday. I attended one of the sessions with the Mayor and Tom did a fantastic job in his
speech. Really. It was nice.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you.
Councilman Labatt: Just want to pass along a word from, I had a conversation with Joel Johnson,
the Pastor on how much he appreciated working with Kate and Bob, Sharmeen, engineering staff
and Lori Haak and the inspectors, and they had a good experience. They really appreciated the
staff's work so Joel wanted me to pass along the thanks, so thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Thanks.
Councilman Ayotte: I attended the round house activity this past Saturday. Very positive. Not
limited to the round house renovation itself, but there was a real sense of community and our
residents felt good about themselves so that's what I was very pleased about.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Anyone else? Had an opportunity on Friday to meet with the--
mayors of Chaska and Victoria, and this is the third time this year that we've done that. It's just
something that Mayor Van Ely, Mary Vaugh and I have wanted to do just to establish
relationships and it's interesting how much we have in common, and how little we don't agree on
in terms of issues and matters that are affecting all our cities so just wanted to share that with
everybody, that that's something that we will continue to do every 2 to 3 months as well, so if
there are ever any issues or something, just a good way to establish those relationships. So when
matters come up we have someone that we can work with. Very good. Any other items for
council presentations?
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS.
Todd Gerhardt: The Mayor and I will be giving the State of the City Address tomorrow at the
Chamber luncheon, so if you're not doing anything between 11:30 and 1:00, we will be doing
that.
Councilman Peterson: At the Legion?
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