CC 2004 01 12CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
JANUARY 12, 2004
Mayor Furlong called the meeting to order at 7:08 p.m. The meeting was opened with the
Pledge to the Flag.
COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Furlong, Councilman Labatt, Councilman Ayotte,
Councilman Lundquist, and Councilman Peterson
STAFF PRESENT: Todd Gerhardt, Elliott Knetsch, Justin Miller, Kate Aanenson, Matt Saam,
Todd Hoffman, Lori Haak, and Bruce DeJong
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Janet & Jerry Paulsen
Debbie Lloyd
Lexy Unze
Allison Alejo
Britt Job
Zach Schelhaas
Eric Nelson
Matt Saldack
Kevin McHale
Katie Holm
Ashlay Jung
Andy Riesgraf
Melissa Gilman
Sharif E.
Christopher B.
Jeff Lundquist
Rich Slagle
Scott Anderson
Melissa Olson
Alison Eiler
Krista Trebiatowski
Emily Anderson
Steve Daniel
Brianna Bigaovetto
Shawn Smith
Mike Korsh
Melissa Dooner
Stephanie Thomes
Derek Thompson
Dan Johnson
Samantha Schwartz
7305 Laredo Drive
7302 Laredo Drive
1080 Lyman Court
7465 Chippewa Trail
112028 Warner Circle
110935 Van Hertzen Circle
1480 Meadow Lane
8760 Lake Susan Court
6940 Tecumseh Lane
2770 Autumn Woods Drive
211 Oak Street
588 Innsbruck Drive
Chanhassen Villager
421 Pineview Court
Chaska Government Class
8705 Mary Jane Circle
Planning Commission
7550 Canyon Curve
8015 Dakota Circle
7000 Shawnee Lane
163 Highland Drive
810 Ashley Court
8759 Ridge Ponds Drive
2362 Manuela Drive
725 Halla Nursery Drive
Kraus Anderson
5920 Dahlgren Road
1445 Meadow Court
1033 Trumble
112511 East Scott Lane
8770 Deer Run Drive
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PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS:
PRESENTATION OF MAPLE LEAF AWARDS:
A. ROD FRANKS, PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION.
Mayor Furlong: Good evening and happy new year everyone. I would like to welcome
everybody that's here this evening as well as those watching at home. We'd like to start this
meeting with a few public announcements. This is the fun part. We've got three Maple Leaf
Awards to present so, let's see ifI could have Rod Franks come forward.
Councilman Ayotte: Watch his grin.
Mayor Furlong: Rod Franks served on the Park and Recreation Commission as a member for 7
years. 3 of those 7 as it's Chair. Mr. Franks also served on the 1997 Park Referendum Volunteer
Committee, the 2002 Community Center Study Group and the Dave Huffman Memorial Race
Committee. Projects that were accomplished with the help of Mr. Franks include acquisition of
the Fox property, the expansion of our trail system including the trail connectors of the Marsh
Glen trail, the Highway 101 South trail, the Highway 5 underpass trails, construction of
Bandimere Community Park, renovations to the Roundhouse and City Center Parks,
improvement to 18 of our neighborhood parks and also the addition of our skate board park to our
park system. Rod has volunteered at numerous special events and has served as an articulate
spokesperson for the Park and Rec Commission as well. We are very grateful for his past
services and the reason he's here is because he was recently elected to serve on the District 112
School Board so we wish him a lot of success and look forward to continuing to represent our
residents there. So on behalf of our appreciation Rod, I'd like to present you with this Maple
Leaf Award and extend the thanks of the city to you.
Rod Franks: Thank you. I'll just keep it brief. You know once you get elected you start run on
at the mouth so I'm trying to learn some new things but I enjoyed serving the city and being on
the park and rec. Todd, it was just great working with you and you've got a great staff person
there and now I look forward to just using all the parks without having to worry about who's
picking up the trash and are those skating rinks getting plowed and that kind of thing so, thank
you again for the opportunity to serve.
Mayor Furlong: Very good, thanks.
Councilman Labatt: Thank you Rod.
Mayor Furlong: Mr. Bohn. These are always fun but we've got 3 great ones this evening. Jim
Bohn was on the Housing and Redevelopment Authority and Economic Development Authority
member. Jim was appointed commissioner to the Chanhassen Housing and Redevelopment
Authority on July 16, 1979 and has been a commissioner ever since. Just about 24 years. Mr.
Bohn has served the HRA and later the Economic Development Authority, which has been
responsibility for transforming this community from a small, mostly residential town to a thriving
full service city that we are today. Projects undertaken while Mr. Bohn was a commissioner
include the downtown redevelopment, including the Target, Byerly's, Market Square
developments as well as their associated infrastructure improvements, establishment of several
industrial parks which have added millions to the city's tax base, and creation of affordable
housing options such as Centennial Hills Senior Living Facility and Heritage Park Apartments.
Jim, the City of Chanhassen has been very fortunate to have a resident like you committed to the
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economic development of our city for the last quarter of a century. Your experience and
insightfulness has been a tremendous asset on the commission. We are going to surely miss your
presence. So on behalf of the City I'd like to extend our thanks and appreciation with this Maple
Leaf Award. Thank you very much Jim. Congratulations. And Randy.
Randy Herman: Tough acts to follow.
Mayor Furlong: You hold your own. Randy Herman has been a commissioner on the Southwest
Metro Transit since 1995. Over the years he's served on the Development Committee for the
new Southwest Metro Transit station, as Chair of it's Budget and Personnel Committee, and as
Treasurer and Vice-President for Southwest Metro Transit Commission. During his tenure the
agency has transformed from a small, no frills transit authority with virtually no assets to one of
the premiere systems in the state of Minnesota with has an on time performance of approximately
99 percent, one of the highest safety ratings in the country, superior customer satisfaction rating
given by over 95 percent of it's passengers and today has over $45 million in capital assets.
Some of the major accomplishments that have occurred at Southwest Metro Transit under, with
Randy's leadership include the tripling of ridership and fare revenue. Currently Southwest Metro
provides approximately 700,000 rides and brings in over $1.5 million in annual fare revenue. The
completion of the region's first complete transit oriented development, Southwest Station in Eden
Prairie and the securing of over $40 million in federal and state transportation. Randy, we
certainly appreciate your serving the residents of Chanhassen on the commission and we thank
you very much for your time.
Randy Herman: Thank you. Just I'd like to say thank you for the opportunity to serve also. It's
a phenomenal organization and I think it's really an asset to the city. We're very fortunate to
have Southwest Metro so thank you.
ORGANIZATIONAL ITEMS~
Mayor Furlong: Moving on with our agenda. First I will ask if there's any additions or deletions
to the agenda? If not, we'll adopt it as approved. As this is our first meeting of the calendar year,
we have some organizational items that we are to attend to. On my list here. The first item is the
appointment of an official newspaper. Staff report. Do you want to give a brief introduction on
each of these as we move through?
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, council. We received two quotes from the Chanhassen Villager and
Lakeshore Weekly. Under the state statute the Chanhassen Villager is the only newspaper that
qualifies to be our official newspaper. Staff is recommending the Chanhassen Villager.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any questions for staff? If not we'll bring it to Council. Is there
any discussion or a motion?
Councilman Peterson: Motion to approve the Chanhassen Villager as the official newspaper.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you.
Councilman Labatt: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Second has been made. Any discussion on the motion? Hearing none we'll
proceed with the vote.
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Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to
Villager as the city's official newspaper. All voted in favor
unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
appoint the Chanhassen
and the motion carried
Mayor Furlong: Second item is the Acting Mayor. Here the council should select from one of
it's members to serve as Acting Mayor to stand in at ceremonies and execute official city
documents in the absence of the mayor. Is there a motion?
Councilman Lundquist: I would nominate Craig Peterson.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman Labatt: Second.
Mayor Furlong: It's been made and seconded. Is there any discussion?
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to appoint Craig Peterson as
Acting Mayor. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Mayor Furlong: Fire Chief. The Fire Department elected Greg Geske to a two year term as Chief
in December. Staff is recommending that the council affirm Mr. Geske's appointment as Fire
Chief.
Councilman Peterson: So moved.
Councilman Labatt: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Is there any discussion?
Councilman Ayotte: Just point of clarification.
Mayor Furlong: Certainly.
Councilman Ayette: Has it always been a 2 year term? Why 2 years versus 4 versus?
Todd Gerhardt: I'm not sure. It's under their By-laws in establishing that.
Mayor Furlong: Is there any other discussion? Questions?
Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to reaffirm Greg Geske as Fire
Chief for the Chanhassen Fire Department for a two year term. All voted in favor and the
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Mayor Furlong: Health Officer: Mr. Dave McCollum, or Dr. Dave McCollum has served as our
Health Officer since 1981. He has indicated that even though the position does not see a lot of
activity, he would like to see the position designated to someone else. Mr. Gerhardt, do you want
to.
Todd Gerhardt:
to act as our
appointment.
Staff contacted Dr. Lane from Ridgeview Medical Clinic. Dr. Lane has agreed
Health Officer for the City of Chanhassen and staff is recommending his
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Mayor Furlong: Very good, thank you. Any questions for staff'?
Councilman Ayotte: Yes. What does a health officer do, (a), and (b), given the future discussion
points, do we have latitude to really expand or increase that role? I'm thinking about homeland
security. Things along that line.
Todd Gerhardt: He could get involved in that to some degree. In the past we've called on a
meningitis case. We've used the health officer in investigations on condemning out apartments
that may be junk apartments is I think the term they use. To see if they're livable or not. Those
are the two cases that I'm aware of.
Councilman Ayotte: Do we have something written down that asked what the duties are and so
forth?
Todd Gerhardt: Nope, we have not done a job description. Under state statute we are to
designate an officer, but that's something we should probably do.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Good point. Is there any other questions for staff'? If there are none, is
there a motion regarding staff's recommendation?
Councilman Lundquist: Motion to approve.
Mayor Furlong: Is there a second?
Councilman Peterson: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Any discussion?
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Peterson seconded to appoint Dr. Michael
Lano as the City's Health Officer. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously
with a vote of 5 to 0.
CONSENT AGENDA:
Mayor Furlong: If there's a desire to discuss any of the items, they can be pulled from the
consent agenda and discussed separately. With that, are there any items that wish to be pulled
from the consent agenda?
Councilman Labatt: Mayor I'd like to pull l(f).
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Length of time of discussion on that?
Councilman Labatt: Actually I'd like it to be pulled and tabled until we have a chance to discuss
public safety at our February 2nd or 17th work session. This deals with the adopting the ordinance
that repeals the Public Safety Commission and I don't believe we've adequately discussed the
future of public safety in Chanhassen so I'd like to have this pulled and table until then.
Mayor Furlong: Pulling to table, okay. Alright, are there any other items that people wish to pull
from the consent agenda? If there is none, is there a motion to approve the consent agenda
excluding item l(f)?
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Councilman Ayotte moved, Councilman Lundquist seconded to approve the
consent agenda items pursuant to the City Manager's recommendations:
Approval of Minutes:
-City Council Work Session Minutes dated December 8, 2003
-City Council Verbatim & Summary Minutes dated December 8, 2003
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Receive Commission Minutes:
-Planning Commission Summary & Verbatim Minutes dated December 2, 2003
-Park and Recreation Commission Summary & Verbatim Minutes dated December 16,
2003
Resolution /t2004-01: Accept Street & Storm Sewer Improvements in Big Woods on
Lotus Lake, Project 01-12.
Resolution /12004-02: Accept Utility Improvements in Boyer on Lake Minnewashta
Addition, Project 02-11.
Resolution/12004-03: Approve Change Order for Well 9 Test Drilling Project 03-02.
Resolution/12004-04: Approval of Change Order for Kings Road Pond Project.
Approval of Amendment to City Code Concerning the Bluff Creek Overlay District.
Resolution/12004-05: Approval of 2004-08 Capital Improvement Program.
Approve Request for a Wetland Setback Variance and Conditional Use Permit for the
Construction of a Shed, 7474 Moccasin Trail, Khai & Heather Tran.
Approve Stipulation of Settlement for Tessler Easement on Highway 101 North Trail,
Project 97-12-3.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
F. APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 2 OF
CITY CODEs
ADMINISTRATION.
Mayor Furlong; Councilman Labatt, let's deal with l(f) right now then. If' it's your desire to
make a motion to table 1 (f).
Councilman Labatt; I'd like to move that we table this until the first general meeting after our
work session which we discuss public safety. In February.
Mayor Furlong; Okay, is there a second to the motion to table?
Councilman Ayotte; Second.
Mayor Furlong; Is a motion to table debatable? No? I don't think it is.
Elliott Knetsch: No.
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Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Councilman Labatt moved, Councilman Ayotte seconded to table Amendment to Chapter 2
of City Code, Administration until the first general meeting after our work session which
we discuss public safety. Councilman Labatt and Councilman Ayotte voted in favor.
Mayor Furlong, Councilman Lundquist and Councilman Peterson voted against. The
motion failed with a vote of 2 to 3.
Mayor Furlong: Why don't we deal with it tonight, or at least talk about it, and then we may end
up moving forward Steve with your recommendation anyway. Given that I would propose that
we move it to the end of the our agenda under item of new business. If there's no objection to
that?
Councilman Labatt: I'd like to discuss it now as long as we have people here. Let's talk public
safety. If we don't want to table it, let's talk about it now. People are here.
Mayor Furlong: If there's no objection, I'd be happy to take it up. That's fine.
Councilman Labatt: This ordinance deals with repealing the Public Safety Commission of which
we've had discussions on this for the last 5 years, off and on that I've been on the City Council
about whether or not we need to have a Public Safety Commission. We have not adequately
discussed this as a council, whether or not we're going to have one. And if we do, what is their
charter? What is their scope of responsibilities? We've listened to, in past meetings with the
sheriff proposing to us that we need to have another investigator assigned here to Chanhassen.
Pay for an extra investigator. We're looking at another thing is having it with another lieutenant.
These are all areas of public safety that need to be looked into by a body and they make a
recommendation whether we're going to add to this public safety organization. And we just had
a work session where we had discussed having a work session in February to look into all these
potential changes, in the law enforcement in Chanhassen and public safety as it relates to all our
residents, and it would be prudent upon all of us as leaders in this community to hold off on
repealing the Public Safety Commission until we have a chance to discuss it, public safety that is,
in February.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. I guess two things. We can either go into council discussion or is
there a staff report? I know the issue Councilman Labatt's concerned about is one of the items
within this. This actually deals with amending a variety of parts of code, of Chapter 2 for the city
code so is there a staff report at all?
Todd Gerhardt: Maybe Kate can address a couple of the issues. We do have some concerns
regarding Chapter 2 other than the Public Safety Commission. We have kind of changed our
ordinance over time and as a part of that we repealed basically the Planning Commission and
Park and Recreation Commission so effectively we've been operating without those two
individuals on the books. So tonight, whatever you decision is, we'd like you to approve at least
that potion of the chapters so we can move on and have those certified.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, let me just add to what Todd mentioned. A month or so ago, almost 2
months ago we did repeal the section of the code, assuming that was going to get adopted. At
that time there was concern about the Public Safety Commission. As we worked through the
code changes, we brought forward which is currently not in the code, the Senior Commission and
Environmental Commission. We spelled out their duties in the bylaws are all put in, so they're
all codified and consistent. What we couldn't get concurrence on is what the Public Safety is and
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this isn't an intent to not put them in but there wasn't concurrence on what their job duties are,
but 2 months ago we did repeal the Planning Commission and Park Commission so they're not,
currently they've been repealed. Our goal tonight is to get those ordinances that we have
concurrence on, approved and into the new code. We're still working. We intend to have the rest
of the code adopted by probably the first of April so what we're saying is that because we're not
adopting that part tonight is because there wasn't concurrence on that. We took it out because of
the language that it's not operating right now but we're not saying it's not going to go forward or
there can't be more discussion on it but our goal tonight is to get those that we have concurrence
on, to get those adopted since we've repealed two of them. And the other, the senior and
environmental commission were never put in the code book. We felt it was appropriate to get
them in. Besides that there are a couple other administrative things in Chapter 2 that were
rectified and we're just asking that those be adopted. And that certainly sounds like a separate
discussion. We just don't want to hold this up as part of that. But there is more code work
coming forward.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Yeah, questions for staff please.
Councilman Ayotte: So how much of a, if I heard you right with my one good hearing aid that's
working tonight, you're saying that we could drop the public safety commission portion of this
action, to view that closer on February or do we have to, is it an all or nothing?
Kate Aanenson: No. I mean you could adopt the code, change code at any time, but I just want
to make it clear we're still in the process of updating the code. We're still working with the
Planning Commission next week, making changes in Chapter 18 and 20 so it's not like we're
done with the code. What we're saying is we repealed two parts and we've codified some more,
and we'd like to get at least those back in because when we stopped we didn't recognize by
repealing one we didn't go forward with the other. We didn't recognize that until the next day,
the implications of that. Whatever your recommendation on the Public Safety Commission, we
would like to see separate from this. We're just hoping that you don't hold this up while we're
trying to reconcile that.
Councilman Lundquist: So after our meeting in February we can always put the Public Safety
Commission back in?
Kate Aanenson: At any time. Any time, right. If you want to hold off completion of the final
adoption of the code until that's resolved, that's fine but this one we'd like to see you move
forward.
Councilman Peterson: I really wasn't planning on talking about the Public Safety Commission
tonight but I looked at this vote as purely administrative to fix things that we have issues on.
Steve, I don't disagree with many of your points. I don't know, I haven't decided whether or not
there should be a Public Safety Commission. I look at tonight's vote simply being one in which
we're voting to clear up some code issues. If we want to, I don't think on the 17th or in February
we're going to decide as a group whether we create a Public Safety Commission. That probably
is a longer conversation, so I voted against your recommendation simply because let's fix it. We
can always put it back and get all of our code, instead of having a part of it, let's. We worked in a
work session but I thought we agreed that we're going to do that. So I'm somewhat set back by
this conversation because I thought we agreed at the work session we were going to approve it.
Councilman Labatt: And I just saw it was in here to repeal it and I just thought that well we
haven't even discussed whether we're going to repeal it or not.
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Councilman Peterson: We had discussed that at the work session. I don't recall whether you
were there or not but that was, we talked about the fact that we can bring it back at any time so
let's get our code straight and accurate so.
Councilman Ayotte: But if we could articulate the fact and pose upon ourselves as a council that
we can once and for all establish a plan.
Mayor Furlong: To an action plan?
Councilman Ayotte: An action plan for public safety so that we can discern our requirements and
discern our resources and a plan to in fact meet those requirements. Maybe if we can in some
fashion just make that a matter of public record. I guess I just did by saying it. And with the
stipulation that if a Public Safety Commission is necessary, or other such bodies to help us along,
I just don't like the idea of, I tend to agree with Steve. It sends the wrong message by not
percolating up to the top that we have to address public safety, and this councilman intends to do
so. By it stating the way it is, it sounds like they're just throwing the Public Safety Commission
out as no option at all.
Mayor Furlong: And Councilman Ayotte, ifI can address one of your points. I have said before,
and I continue to say that public safety is one of the primary issues that this council or any
council has to address. Now whether for us it's public safety at the city level, the state, the
federal government, counties, they all have their issues. To me that is one of the primary issues.
What we're talking about here and where I viewed it as well is that this item that we're
considering with Chapter 2 is similar to all the other clean-up that we've done on all the other
chapters throughout our code to try to get us, to get the code consistent with the way we're
operating. As we talked about last week, and I spoke when I met with the city manager at our
regular meeting last Tuesday, putting our discussion of public safety issues, trying to address
some of the questions that we want answered, and what are the best mechanisms to use that. And
correct me if I'm wrong, I think we pointed out one of the first meetings in March from a work
session standpoint. We are going to be meeting, talking about all our strategic initiatives for a
couple times in February. This council has never taken a position that we don't think public
safety is important. I look at this as just an administrative work. Let's get our code cleaned up
and let's deal with it as part of our strategic initiatives as I understood that we were going to be
doing. So that's why I think let's pass it. If we decide at one of our work sessions that we want
to put something in place, then we can put it in place in the code how we want it rather than
leaving something in there that isn't right, and isn't perhaps what this council is looking for.
Councilman Ayotte: Could I try something out on you? On you guys. Let me read something
and see what you think of is. That part that says, as a part of this ordinance the Public Safety
Commission is being repealed until such time as it deemed appropriate and necessary to re-
establish such a commission based on defined need as defined by this council.
Councilman Peterson: Is that in the staff report is what you're doing Bob?
Councilman Labatt: Say it again?
Mayor Furlong: I think that makes sense.
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Councilman Ayotte: I don't know if I can say that again. As a part of this ordinance the Public
Safety Commission is being repealed until such time it is deemed appropriate and necessary to re-
establish a commission based on a defined need as defined by this council.
Councilman Peterson: I believe that.
Kate Aanenson: Elliott can I just, it's Section 13 is the part that repeals the Public Safety
Commission, if you're on the ordinance adopting sections so I'm assuming it'd be appropriate to
put that in that section. That we're repealing that. We have an ordinance on (f).
Elliott Knetsch: Well it depends what the council's preference. I mean that would be an
amendment to the staff report as I understood it, which would reflect what the record was but it
would not be an actual part of the ordinance as I understood what he said. And so Section 13
would stay the same.
Mayor Furlong: So it shows the intent here, which addresses your concern Councilman Ayotte.
We're not throwing public safety...
Councilman Ayotte: Yeah...that we collectively work towards.
Mayor Furlong: Absolutely. Okay. With that is there a motion to approve item l(f) as
presented by the staff. With the staff report amended on the record.
Councilman Peterson: So moved.
Mayor Furlong: Is there a second?
Councilman Lundquist: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Any discussion?
Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Lundquist seconded to approve the amendment
to Chapter 2 of the City Code, Administration as presented. All voted in favor and the
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS: None.
PUBLIC HEARING: AMENDMENT TO CITY CODE CHAPTER 4 ESTABLISHING
VARIOUS CITY FEES:
A. SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT FEES.
Kate Aanenson: Thank you. As we indicated in here, we're reviewing the fees attached to storm
water. We brought that proposal to you last year. We're looking at the cost of continuing the
system as we talk about sewer and water construction. These fees are based on the plan that we
have in place. Again that plan only checks out so far but we believe the numbers should be
accurate as far as our cost and land cost as they are rising. We are recommending an increase as
stated in the staff report and the ordinance you'd be adopting would be on the last page of the
staff report. Again it's reflected, the fees are storm water fees are based on a land use
designation. That's again our cost. If we had to buy the land or increase the size of a pond or
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construct a pond ourselves, sharing the costs related to the pond. So with that we are
recommending approval and I'd be happy to answer any questions you've got.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions for staff.
Councilman Lundquist: Question Kate or Todd. Developments, do we have any developments
right now that are at the stage where they would be like through a preliminary plat or something
like that or site plan that would be significantly impacted as we raise these rates? As the
ordinance reads, they're effective immediately upon it's passage and publication. So I guess my
concern is, do we have a developer out there that's going to get hit you know $50,000-$60,000 or
something on a large scale development that might be impacted by this?
Kate Aanenson: I don't believe so. Once it's got preliminary plat status, those fees generally are
paid with the preliminary plat. It's typically our park and trail. Anybody else that's in the
process, we'd advise them that they are, we did have people pull permits at the end of the year to
finalize plats. I don't believe there's anything. Typically we try to advise them that the fees are
changing at the end of the year.
Councilman Lundquist: So there shouldn't be anybody that gets a big surprise?
Kate Aanenson: No, because we did have some that finaled out in 2003 to avoid some of that,
especially SAC fees and that sort of thing so I think we should be covered there.
Councilman Lundquist: Okay, thanks.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any other questions for staff?
Councilman Ayotte: Going to Councilman Lundquist's point a little bit further, is there a reason
why we couldn't establish threshold to avoid a land developer being overwhelmed by.
Todd Gerhardt: I would disagree with that. Then they're going to argue about the threshold date
that you used too so it's a lose/lose situation. Most of the developers that we've talked to are
aware of these. Kind of helped us with our building permit revenues at the end of the year that
they wanted to get in prior to the increases so they're aware. We've been in touch with most of
them that are pending to let them know.
Councilman Ayotte: One other question Mayor?
Mayor Furlong: Certainly.
Councilman Ayotte: Now we as a community proudly have a preponderance of wetlands
compared to other communities. So for us this would be, compared to other communities a much
bigger revenue generator, true or false?
Lori Haak: No, not necessarily.
Councilman Ayotte: There's not necessarily a correlation?
Lori Haak: No.
Councilman Ayotte: Okay.
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Kate Aanenson: This is the cost for building the infrastructure improvements. Ponding, piping.
Mayor Furlong: I think the other point or clarification, if I understand from the staff report when
the surface water management plan was first established it was the expectation that these fees
would be adjusted annually, is that correct? I think Councilman Lundquist, this gets to your
question a little bit. They haven't been so we've got to pick up and do a better job of looking at
these on an annual basis. Nobody likes to raise fees on anybody, certainly up here.
Kate Aanenson: And I think that came out as part of the Ehlers study that we need to be
consistent. The first year, that would be the trigger date to go back and survey where we are with
construction costs, and if we know that window again may be only out 5 years, that we're
consistent, and to get us up to where we need to be, we said we'll be bringing back increases over
the next coming years. Just as we're doing now, bringing it up to catch up to where we should
be.
Mayor Furlong: And this is the third of the three catch up years? Okay, so we'd be consistent
with the last 2 years or council actions from the last 2 years? Okay. Thank you. Are there other
questions for staff at this time? If not, this is a public hearing so I'll open it up for comments in
front of the public hearing. Please come forward to the podium. State your name and address to
address the council in this matter. If there's nobody that wishes to address this we'll close the
public hearing. We'll close the public hearing then and bring it back to the council for comments
or additional questions. Any comments? Questions? If not, is there a motion?
Councilman Labatt: Move approval.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman Ayotte: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Motion's been made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion?
Councilman Labatt moved, Councilman Ayotte seconded that the City Council adopt the
attached ordinance for Chapter 4 of the Chanhassen City Code to increase SWMP fees by
8.39% and approve the summary ordinance for publication purposes. All voted in favor
and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
B. PARK DEDICATION FEES.
Mayor Furlong: Next item is the consideration of adoption, or amendment to Chapter 4
concerning park dedication fees. Staff report please. Mr. Hoffman.
Todd Hoffman: Thank you Mayor Furlong, members of the council. Park dedication fees are
based on the fact that new housing, commercial and industrial developments generate an
increased demand for recreational offerings in a community. Chanhassen's standard for
providing parkland that accommodates what we would call active play is 1 acre for every 75
residents that we have in our community. Establishment of the park fee rate is based upon actual
raw land values. Land values in Chanhassen have risen steeply over the past 10 or 15 years.
Current prices range from $70,000 to $100,000 plus per acre for all classes of undeveloped lands
in our community. I utilize the value of $70,000 per acre in establishing my recommendation for
the council. I'm not going to go through the calculations other than we'll get right down to the
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bottom. On residential single family duplex units, that 1 new acre of land will cost a minimum of
$70,000 which translates into a park dedication fee of $2,800 per unit or home. And how you
arrive at that is that's $70,000 divided by those 25 unit homes. The $2,800 is a $400 increase
over our 2003 park dedication fee of $2,400 per home. Multi family apartment units, generally
you have fewer occupants per dwelling, which translates to a lesser impact on your park and
recreational offerings so the fee is traditionally lower. Last year's fee was $2,000 per unit. The
new equation with using the $70,000 arrives at a $2,200 per unit park dedication fee for anything
over a duplex unit within our city. That would include multi-family apartment units.
Commercial industrial are generally based upon a 10 percent of the land so for example if a 50
acre industrial park that would come in, either accept a 5 acre donation of parkland or the cash in
lieu of the value of that property. Again if you use that $70,000, 10 percent of that is $7,000 per
acre which is assessed against that commercial and industrial properties, and that is no change
over the 2003 rates. Staff is recommending the City Council adopt the attached ordinance for
Chapter 4 of the Chanhassen City Code and I'd be happy to answer any questions of the council.
You do have a rate comparison study in the packet which is stapled to the paper and then also
Justin Miller handed out a second comparison that has our key financial cities comparing to that.
Again, the important thing to remember is based on land value so cities very similar to ourselves
as far as land values, Edina, Eden Prairie, Plymouth, those cities are all in the $2,800 to $3,800
for example in Bloomington where their park fees are currently at. Maple Grove went to $3,000
per unit this year.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions for staff.
Councilman Ayotte: Todd, for us to get well in our PM programs and so forth, how far along will
this revenue generation help us? Is it going to be enough? If it is, by how much? If it's not
going to be enough, if not by how much? And certainly I'm not asking for specifics but what's
your feel?
Todd Hoffman: My feel is, what I don't want to do is leave any money out on the table that can
be used for things like, as you referenced those maintenance items. If you take for example the
2005 MUSA area that's coming in, this single adjustment means about a million dollars. So for
the city to utilize that million dollars for it's park and recreation needs is a very important step for
it to take. So we're not talking small potatoes here.
Councilman Ayotte: But that million dollars will proportionately build new versus maintain.
Todd Hoffman: Build new. That's what these fees are for. They're to expand the capacity of
your system.
Councilman Ayotte: And I guess the reason I bring that point up. You know my consistent
concern is that when we build new, we need to have a plan to sustain what we build for life cycle
purposes, and I hope we've talked towards that and know how we're going to handle this million
dollar improvement. Okay.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. For clarification Mr. Hoffman, is the number that you
represented in the 2005 MUSA going with these rates, is that the total generated off these rates or
the incremental?
Todd Hoffman: Just a quick calculation that I did upstairs after we talked about it. It's the
incremental increase. It's based on the 1,800-2,000 units.
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Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Other questions for staff? No? If not, we'll bring it back to
the council for discussion. Or actually this is a public hearing, so thank you for catching myself.
I'll open up the public hearing now and invite anyone to come forward that wants to speak on this
issue. Seeing none we'll close the public hearing and bring it back to council for discussion.
Fellow council members, any discussion on this matter?
Councilman Peterson: Motion to approve.
Councilman Labatt: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Been made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion?
Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to adopt the attached ordinance
for Chapter 4 of the Chanhassen City Code. All voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
C. PROPERTY OWNERS LIST FOR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION.
Kate Aanenson: Thank you Mayor, members of the council. Again involving the code book as
we've been advised by the attorney, all fees should be in Chapter 4 of the city code. This is a
new fee. We have been using, charging for this and again evaluating the cost of delivering that
service. There are other services that will provide names for application. For any application
going before the Planning Commission or City Council we've been charging $1.50 a name. In
reviewing outside sources which are charging 5, certainly that can't be our rationale basis. We
have to go back and look at what our cost is. That has to be the nexus. In reviewing that we
believe our cost is probably closer to $3.00 so with that we are recommending the adoption of a
fee for providing mailing lists. That would be our cost of looking it up on the GIS. Creating the
labels and putting those out, so we are recommending a $3.00 fee for charging. Typically we do
about 30 names per application so is this a large fee? No, but it's probably obviously doubling
about what we're doing right now so again it covers our cost so we are recommending approval
of the ordinance for property owners list of $3.00 per property.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions for staff. Hearing none, we'll proceed with the public
hearing. We'll open up the public hearing and ask anyone to come forward that would like to
speak to the council on this issue. Quiet group tonight. Nobody's interested in coming forward,
we'll close the public hearing and bring it back to council for discussion. Any discussion on this
matter. Councilman Labatt.
Councilman Labatt: Kate, so you're saying there's approximately 30 labels.
Kate Aanenson: Per application.
Councilman Labatt: Per application?
Kate Aanenson: Again we go further. The state law says 300 feet. Our ordinance we use 500
feet. If it's a lakeshore lot we do notify everybody on the lakeshore so, you know typically the
people that use these are a homeowner that comes in that needs a variance. Some of the bigger
developers use some of the outside sources. There's two available in the county here that would
collect that but typically we offer this and that's frequently used is that the homeowner that wants
to pursue an addition.
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Councilman Labatt: And you're proposing $3.00 per label?
Kate Aanenson: Right, again we evaluated what's our true cost and it's more than $1.50 yeah.
Councilman Labatt: So is $3.00 more like it or is it more than $3.007
Kate Aanenson: No, we actually went through kind of a couple test samples of what a typical
application is. What is the cost of the time, our labor, overhead of doing that and it's just under
$3.00.
Councilman Labatt: Okay. That's all I have.
Mayor Furlong: That's fine, thank you. Other questions or discussion at this point?
Councilman Lundquist: Motion to approve.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman Ayotte: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion?
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Ayotte seconded that the City Council adopt
the attached ordinance for Chapter 4 of the Chanhassen City Code incorporating frees per
property owners. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to
0.
PUBLIC HEARING: RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND ANNUAL UPDATE~
NATIONAL POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM~ PHASE II MS4
PERMIT.
Lori Haak: Thank you Mayor Furlong and council members. That's rolling off the tongue very
nicely Mayor Furlong. As you mentioned it is the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination
System annual report and by law we are required to have a public hearing, or receive public
comment rather on our annual report and I wanted to take an opportunity to present you with a
little bit of what staff has been working on for the past year as far as this permit goes. As you're
aware in March of 19, or I'm sorry. I'm still in the last decade I guess. In March, 2003 the City
of Chanhassen applied for a National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit from the
Minnesota Pollution Control Agency. Over the past 10 months the city staff has begun to
implement the best management practices that were included in this application and those best
management practices cover 6 areas. The first is public education and outreach. The second is
public participation and involvement. The third is elicit discharge elimination and detection. The
fourth is construction site runoff control. The fifth is post construction runoff control, and sixth is
pollution prevention and good housekeeping from municipal operations, which is where we take a
look at what we're doing internally at the city as far as non-point source pollution is concerned.
The current permit requires the city to submit an annual report by March l0th of 2004. Presently
the annual report documents are not available from the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, and
that's why the motion at the end of the staff report is a little nebulous as far as the actual format
and whether or not the mayor will need to sign that report document. The annual report will
show the progress toward each obtaining the measurable goals for each best management
practice. And a draft report detailing the city's accomplishments during 2003-2004 was attached
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to your staff report. Input has been solicited from each city department about the progress
towards the city's goals, and as I mentioned earlier the city needs to hold a public hearing or
receive public comment on this. And real quickly I'd like to give a brief update on the progress
we've made so far. Ask you to hold, receive that public comment and then adopt the motion.
Real generally by way of highlights, I tried to keep this numeric and things that we could be
proud of as a city. The first thing that came to mind was that Chanhassen residents made over
3,000 visits to the Carver County Environmental Center this year, and I think that's certainly
commendable. Certainly with over 7,000 households, we can work on that number but those are
things that could be paints and fertilizers, things like that that could be disposed of in other
methods that they were taking to the environmental center so I think that's certainly a
commendable thing and that will make it's way into the staff report. Actually just this Saturday
the Boy Scouts, Scout Troop #377 I believe picked up Christmas trees, over 100 of those and
took them to be hauled to be composted so certainly that's a good thing when trees are disposed
of often on lakes and things like that and while people tend to believe that they provide fish
habitat, they actually add quite a bit of nutrients to the aquatic system. This year I was also able
to work with students from Chaska High School. I made a presentation about buffers around
wetlands and lakeshores and things like that and then actually got well over 200 students out to
Lake Susan to help me and some other staff members get that buffer installed in the park.
Recently the storm water pollution prevention program was posted on the web site, and it's not
real flashy yet or user friendly but that's certainly something that we can work on. We, as staff
have also established a storm water hotline which will be implemented in the future. Actually it's
debut was in the last Chanhassen Connection. The number 952-227-1351 and that's a line where
people can listen to recorded messages about current storm water projects that are ongoing, as
well as leave voicemails if they have concerns. People who are dumping leaves down storm
sewers or we've had instances of cleaning out construction equipment over catch basins and those
sorts of things, so that's one step in getting that implemented. Probably the most intensive
operation we've undertaken is the inventory of storm water infrastructure within the city and
currently we have three teams of 2 street department workers who are going out and inventorying
all of the pipes, all of the catch basins and manholes and ponds and this is required by the permit.
They're out there in the cold slugging around trying to figure out what exactly we have in the
ground and making sure that everything is functional. And as you can imagine, this takes a lot of
staff time and energy and that will be very useful to us as we proceed with implementation of this
permit. And I guess the last thing that I'll mention is that through a contract with the Carver Soil
and Water District, 104 inspections were conducted over 14 development sites in the city and that
certainly is a step in the right direction. There are a lot of concerns that come with construction
site, erosion and sediment control and we're beginning to make a dent in that through our
operations with the soil and water district. They've been a great partner. And again, just if we
could receive come public comment and then adopt a motion.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions. For staff. Councilman Ayotte.
Councilman Ayotte: Now you've had an order of merit in which you do things that you view as
being more important than the other. Incidentally I love your titles of some of your articles,
especially the one about scum. I liked that. Ways to reduce green pond scum. That's good but
do you have a, besides what's written in here, I don't see a priority. Is there a priority?
Lori Haak: Well certainly in this first year a large part of the priority was to just get a handle on
what was going on, and really get a sense of how the departments can work together to implement
these things and how we can get the word out to residents to, because education is such a huge
part of this endeavor really. And a lot of what we've been doing actually is working with other
cities and trying to assist each other. Bring each other through the learning curve together and so
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there aren't priorities per se in a hard to find list but I do, the permit does spell out some deadlines
for things like the storm water mapping for some of the inspections. Those are things that we
have to, there's certain benchmarks that we have to meet on an annual basis.
Councilman Ayotte: But based on our, irrespective of this requirement, based on the fact that we
have 11 lakes. Based on the fact that we've had some issues that we've addressed just recently, is
there a way, or have you talked about a way of using this tool. Still meet the requirements but
using this tool to help ferret out our problems that are peculiar to us because of demographics.
Lori Haak: Not yet. That's something we anticipate doing with the update of the surface water
management plan, which will help us to meet some of these requirements but will also get us a
more precise idea of where exactly we stand with all of our water resources.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, other questions? Ms. Haak, one of the questions I have, and I'm not sure
if it necessarily is in here but when we speak of best practices. To me best practices are evolving.
They're not just solid. One of the big projects this past year was the work done on the storm
pond at Lake Susan, and there were a lot of concerns raised at that time and I guess my question
is, as we look at that and if this falls within here in terms of trying to do best practices as we
manage that, do we bring anything away from that? Is that some of the issues that were raised
there, what are we going to do better next time? Or if you want to address that, or how can we do
something better to the extent that there were issues? And if you can address that.
Lori Haak: Absolutely. I think with any major undertaking, and that hole in the ground was
certainly a major undertaking, you do learn lessons and I think some of the things that we've
learned as a staff are, you know certainly the project management. Some public education things.
And some just preventative stuff that can be taken and certainly there are ways that you can
improve the operations of the city and I think in addition to the Lake Susan project, one of the six
areas that we have to touch on is the pollution prevention and good housekeeping, and I would
say that because there were questions raised on that project, that we have definitely some areas
that we can work on in that sixth area. So certainly we'll be looking inward as much as we're
looking outward and again during the first few years it's going to be a little bit bumpy as far as
the road goes in this implementation but we are aware of our internal struggle as a staff and as a
city you know, even making sure that the council and the Planning Commission are aware of the
things that are going on and keeping them up to speed.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you.
Councilman Ayotte: Point of clarification.
Mayor Furlong: Certainly.
Councilman Ayotte: And this is probably directed more to Todd but we had talked about again
the Lake Susan situation but procedurally the steps we take for plans and specs and how we fix
liability. To the contractor so that it's clear. That would not necessarily live here would it, or
would it?
Todd Gerhardt: No. That would be as a part of the plans and spec stage for any of our projects,
and we're working with Roger's office to make sure we have that language in there.
Councilman Ayotte: Thanks.
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Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Any other questions for staff at this time? If not, I'll open up
the public hearing. Invite anyone to come forward that would like to speak on this matter before
the council. If there is none, then we'll go forward and close the public hearing and bring it back
to council for comments.
Councilman Peterson: Motion to approve.
Mayor Furlong: For clarification you're approving staff's recommendation within the report?
Councilman Peterson: That's affirmative.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman Lundquist: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Been made and seconded. Is there any discussion on the motion?
Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Lundquist seconded that the City Council
authorizes the Mayor to sign the City's NPDES Phase II MS4 General Permit annual report
as compiled by staff and submit the report and all required materials to the Minnesota
Pollution Control Agency by March 10, 2004. All voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Councilman Ayotte: And before you leave I've got to ask this question. Were we a part of a
school project or something?
Audience: Yeah.
Councilman Ayotte: Yeah, okay. I just wanted to make sure.
Mayor Furlong: They had to stay through item 3 on the agenda I think so. Thank you everyone
for coming.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS: PRESENT FINDINGS OF CITY MANAGER'S
PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.
Mayor Furlong: Per the agenda I would like to start out and make a statement consistent with our
requirements. The City Council met in executive session on Monday, January 5th and again this
evening discussing Mr. Gerhardt's performance and compensation as our city manager.
Following is a summary of those discussions. Mr. Gerhardt has completed another year of
excellent work for our city. He has accomplished his personal goals, along with coordinating and
executing a number of key goals for the city, such as securing a buyer for the redevelopment of
the bowling alley property, overseeing the completion of the new library and City Center Park,
working with the council and his staff to achieve the goal of a zero percent budget and zero
percent tax increase for 2004, working well with the council and his staff to achieve their
respective goals. In consideration of his performance the City Council discussed increasing Mr.
Gerhardt's total compensation in 2004 by 4.7 percent above that which he received in 2003. At
this time I would like to ask that a motion be made so indicating the council's intent to increase
Mr. Gerhardt's compensation for 2004 as I have presented.
Councilman Peterson: So moved.
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Mayor Furlong: Is there a second?
Councilman Labatt: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Any discussion on the motion?
Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Labatt seconded that the City Council approve
increasing the City Manager's total compensation in 2004 by 4.7 percent above that which
he received in 2003. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5
to 0.
Mayor Furlong: The City Council is very proud to have Mr. Gerhardt as our city manager and
we'd like to thank him for his continued service and commitment to the City of Chanhassen.
Thank you. Mr. Gerhardt.
Todd Gerhardt: Thank you. I'd just like to add a few words. I appreciate those kind words.
Again my success is based on my staff and the City Council and thank you. Appreciate those
kind words.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Other items for council presentations this evening? Hearing none
we'll move forward with administrative presentations.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS: None.
CORRESPONDENCE DISCUSSION: None.
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Peterson seconded to adjourn the City Council
meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried. The meeting was adjourned at 8:08
p.m.
Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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