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3. Site Plan Reivew for Country Suites
_ C IT 7;' 1.990 !7`...--.1......�Y O F P.C. DATE: Feb. CHANHASSEN C.C. DATE: Feb. 26, 1990 CASE NO: 89-2 Site Plan ,Prepared by: Krauss/v yk_._ i STAFF REPORT IrPROPOSAL: Revised Site Plan Review for Country Hospitality italit Suites Y II— z , LOCATION: West 78th Street and Market Boulevard _- Q lo • J APPLICANT: John Rice David J. Hemminger I a 630 Interchange Tower Hutt Consultants, Inc. Highway 12 at CR 18 2241 Roosevelt Road, Suite 2 Q Minneapolis, MN 55426 St. Cloud, MN 56301 I I \ . , I ...9„. PRESENT ZONING: CBG and BG 6Klorse b 00 ft- ACREAGE: Novic.____�"� I3.1 Acres Re;o,_c DENSITY: oaf Dote s:::,;24-ad to 4Artr.:,,von II ADJACENT ZONING Su �- .i.. Dote so..;::.:J tv 4o,ntil AND LAND USE: N- CBD - Chanhassen Bank ��16_cja , Ig S- CBD - Filly's d • E- CBD - Chanhassen Dinner Theatre IW— BG - Vacant W WATER AND SEWER: Available to site. I I... 0 PHYSICAL CHARAC. : . Currently contains existing building, Hooked on Classics, All State ' Insurance, etc. 2000 LAND USE PLAN: Commercial JI Planning Commission February 7, 1990 Page 2 BACKGROUND On April 24 , 1989, the City Council gave final site plan approval for the construction of the Country Hospitality Suites Hotel. ' Located at the intersection of West 78th Street and Market Boulevard, the proposal called for the construction of an 84-room suite hotel which would have an accessory pool area. The ' building was to be three stories high. When the applicants requested authorization for a building per- mit, they discussed modifications to the proposed building with ' staff. According to the applicant, these modifications were designed to reduce construction expenses while more closely aligning the architecture with the franchise requirements. They ' had originally proposed the following changes: 1. Deletion of cedar shake shingles on the roof system. 2. Modification of the roof system from a false mansard to a high peaked roof with no detailing. 3 . Deletion of canopy over the drive-thru at the main entrance. 4 . Shortening of the building by 12 ft. by removing approxi- mately that distance from the pool area. 5. Other miscellaneous changes were discussed such as modifica- tions to the exterior building materials, but these were dropped from consideration. Staff concluded that the scope of these changes went well beyond anything we were comfortable authorizing administratively. In our opinion, they would have resulted in a building that was not consistent with the intent of the original site plan approval. We therefore scheduled a review of the revised plans before the City Council at their December 12, 1989, meeting. The City Council agreed with staff' s concerns regarding changes to the plan and our opinion that an amended site plan approval was warranted. ' They took the following actions: 1. The City Council authorized the modified roof-line which uses a peak roof system in place of the mansard system. Based on discussions with staff, the roof system had been given an extensive amount of architectural detailing which in staff' s ' opinion made it consistent with the downtown development theme. 2. The City Council authorized the replacement of cedar shake shingles with "Timberline" shingles. The heavy grade tim- berline shingle is to be used which gives the appearance of cedar shakes from a distance. The applicants had indicated I r Planning Commission February 7, 1990 Page 3 IF that cedar shakes would not be appropriate due to building code restrictions on the revised roof system. I 3. The Council insisted that the drive-up canopy system be main- tained or the Council refused to authorize the shortening of the building by 12 feet. In their findings, the Council indicated that if further changes were being requested by the applicants that they could return through the Planning Commission for an amended site plan approval. This current request constitutes the applicant's proposal for an amended site plan approval. Since the City Council meeting, a building permit has been issued , for construction of the foundation and for portions of the building for which architectural design issues have been resolved. Ground has been broken on the structure. DISCUSSION Based upon the City Council's actions relative to the proposed ' changes to the site plan, there are only a few remaining areas to be discussed. The revised site plan approval was intended to be the forum where the developer could propose any additional changes that had not been reviewed by the Planning Commission since design of the project appeared to be in the state of flux. As it turns out, there are no new building modifications being proposed. Thus, the remaining issues which need to be determined are the revised plans for the main entrance canopy, the deletion of 12 ft. from the building pad, and issues surrounding the landscaped courtyard located to the east of the building. In our opinion, the question of providing the canopy at the main entrance has been satisfactorily resolved. The architect was able to prepare plans that allowed for a structurally supportable canopy. At the City Council meeting the applicants indicated that they were not sure this could be accomplished. The addi- tional support is provided by the addition of two columns that are in a centrally located parking lot island around which traf- fic can maneuver. The canopy is integrated into the roof system and front elevation of the hotel in a reasonably attractive manner. A second minor canopy located on the west side of the building over a accessory entrance has also been retained. Issues pertaining to the proposal to shorten the building by 12 feet remain unresolved. The City Council initially acted to require the full-sized building as approved originally. The 12 ft. that is proposed for deletion is located in the accessory swimming pool area and would not result in either it' s deletion or any loss in the number of visitor rooms. Staff views this change as relatively minor from an aesthetic standpoint and does I I Planning Commission February 7, 1990 il Page 4 I not believe that it will be particularly visible. It results in the movement of the eastern building wall 12 ft. to the west. The landscaping plans were revised to accommodate the additional open I space. Staff is recommending that the revised building footprint print be approved. The final and related factor concerns the courtyard area located I around the south and eastern sides of the structure. Staff has had concerns with this courtyard primarily related to the fact that much of it is located on an adjoining parcel. There are I three reasons for maintaining the courtyard. The first concerns the fact that the sidewalk in the courtyard provides fire exits for the building. The second is that minimum building separa- tions are required to meet fire code and building code regula- tions. Once buildings are closer than 25 ft. , they must be built to higher standards. The third reason is aesthetics in that the site plan that was approved by the City illustrates a landscaped II courtyard in the area and we wish to preserve it. Staff has been working with the property owners to insure that a permanent ease- ment that involves the City and both properties protecting this I area is filed with the County. The applicant has provided staff with a revised detail of the courtyard area. It illustrates an area that would be 20 ft. 8 in. wide. Staff researched the matter and found that the courtyard that had been originally 1 approved in the plans was 30 feet wide. We do not wish to see the final courtyard width diminished past this point since to do so would compromise the aesthetics although it would comply with II building and fire code requirements. Staff is proposing that the final courtyard dimensions and easement provide for a 30 foot wide courtyard along the east side of the hotel building. IISTAFF RECOMMENDATION Staff recommends that the amended site plan for the Country II Hospitality Suites be approved as proposed subject to the following conditions: I 1. Provision of a satisfactory easement protecting courtyard areas located at the east and southeast sides of the building. I 2. The minimum courtyard dimension located east of the hotel shall be 30 feet. ICITY COUNCIL UPDATE The Planning Commission reviewed this item at their meeting on I February 7, 1990. The Commission generally agreed with the recommendations of the staff report. In the presentation to the Planning Commission, staff added a condition that the roof shingles be heavy-grade Timberline-type and be of a earth tone 1 Planning Commission February 7, 1990 Page 5 color. Staff raised this issue because the rendering presented at the groundbreaking ceremony illustrated a green asphalt II shingled roof. The applicants indicated that the rendering was wrong and agreed with the condition. IIThe applicants took minor exception with staff' s requirement that the courtyard be 30 ft. wide. They indicated that the ori- ginal plans had a 25 ft. wide courtyard. Staff verified that I this was in fact the case, that the plans that were approved had a 25 ft. wide courtyard. Consequently, we agreed with the Planning Commission that condition No. 2 should be amended accor- dingly. The Planning Commission recommended approval of the II amended site plan with these conditions. Since the Planning Commission meeting, we have had brief conver- ' sations concerning this project with the City Engineer. The City Engineer has a concern that the final design of the drive-up canopy may present a problem for bus maneuvering. BRW has been I asked to investigate this matter on behalf of the City. If there is a maneuvering problem, it may need to be resolved by making the canopy a cantilever structure that did not require support in the middle as proposed. Therefore, staff is proposing to add a II fourth condition that would stipulate that the final design of the canopy be designed to provide adequate maneuvering for buses. STAFF RECOMMENDATION II Staff recommends that the amended site plan for the Country Hospitality Suites be approved subject to the following II conditions: 1. Provision of the satisfactory easement protecting courtyard I areas located at the east and southeast sides of the building. 2. The minimum courtyard dimension located east of the building I shall be 25 feet. 3. The roof material shall be heavy grade Timberline-type shingles II of a cedar or earth tone. 4. That the final decision of the canopy provide sufficient room II for maneuvering of buses. ATTACHMENTS I 1. Memo from Gary Warren dated February 15, 1990. 2. Letter from BRW dated February 7, 1990. II 3 . Letter from Hutt Consultants, Inc. dated January 23, 1990. 4 . Proposed revisions. 5. Planning Commission minutes dated February 7, 1990. 6 . City Council minutes dated December 18, 1989. I 7. Memos to HRA regarding project dated 1-19-90 and 12-15-89. 8. Original staff report and approved site plan. 1 II CITY OF • , CHANHASSEN 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 • FAX(612) 937-5739 ATTACHMENT B MEMORANDUM ' TO: Steve Kirchman, Building Official FROM: Gary Warren, City Engineer ' DATE: February 15 , 1990 SUBJ: Country Suites Hotel Building Permit As we discussed, the Engineering Department has no problem with ' issuing the building permit for the Country Suites Hotel with the exception that the canopy structure and bus routing as it relates to the canopy structure still has not been resolved to the City's ' satisfaction. It should be understood by the owner that issuance of the permit is being done with the understanding that any rami- fications to the building structure which result from the final resolution of the canopy structure will be the owner's respon- sibility for incorporating into the building structure at his own cost. ktm 1 ATTAc.$4 ENT *� 1 a I. II j PLANNING It TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING URBAN DESIGN BRW,INC. - THRESHER SQUARE - 700 THIRD STREET SOUTH • MINNEAPOLIS.MINNESOTA 55415 • PHONE. 612/370-0700 FAX 612/370-1378 N February 7, 1990 ``� �tlL 2 WI: IGyy d�- Mr. Gary Warren ���� ��, ���� � City of Chanhassen , r.�L'I� � II 690 Coulter Drive s �I `'��•� Chanhassen, MN 55317 6%400 RE: Country Suites Hotel Site Improvements FC Q �SSS II Dear Gary, £ :1liEER z DEPT. I The following summary is provided for recent discussions regarding the Country Suites Hotel site improvements. In particular, we would like to address the II issue of bus traffic into and through the site. Large bus access to the proposed canopy entrance to the hotel has become a con- cern due to recent information provided by Truman Howell Architects. It is II anticipated that the hotel may offer a number of Dinner Theater or special event type packages that would require large bus traffic through the site. The parking lot plan which was originally designed by Truman Howell was analyzed II to determine the circulation of bus traffic through the site. An outside wheel turning radius of 45 feet was used, as recommended for large buses. It does not II appear that buses could maneuver through the canopy area without significant difficulties considering the existing layout. Minor modifications could be made to the parking lot design which would improve I bus circulation. Changes include the widening of the West 78th Street entrance from 30 feet to 36 feet, as requested by the Planning Commission site plan review, and the elimination of two parking stalls in the canopy area (See- attached Exhibit #1). The driveway widening would require the removal of the recently constructed curb and gutter and apron installed for the entrance as a part of the downtown redevelopment work. Considering these changes, it appears that buses turning left from westbound II West 78th Street could maneuver into and through the canopy area, and back out the West 78th Street driveway. Buses making a right turn movement from east- II bound West 78th Street could also maneuver through the canopy area, but would have to travel through the parking lot to exit onto Market Boulevard or other alternative locations. In general, bus travel through the site would be II possible, but it would require frequent encroachment upon opposing travel lanes to make turning maneuvers. Pt TTmcFu4 E t T 4 2... r AN AFFILIATE OF THE BENNETT.RINGROSE.WOLSFELD.JARVIS.GARDNER.INC.GROUP *VID J BENNETT DONALD W.RINGROSE RICHARD P WOLSFELD PETER E.JARVIS LAWRENCE J.GARDNER THOMAS F.CARROLL CRAIG A.AMUNDSEN DONALD E.HUNT , MARK G SWENSON JOHN B.McNAMARA RICHARD D.PILGRIM DALE N.BECKMANN DENNIS J.SUTLIFF JEFFREY L.BENSON RALPH C BLUM DAVID L.GRAHAM MINNEAPOLIS DENVER PHOENIX TUCSON St PETERSBURG 1 . Mr. Gary Warren February 7, 1990 Page 2 It is our understanding that you have had recent discussions with the hotel ' developer which determined that bus traffic may not be that critical. Please provide us with further information regarding this issue. In the event changes are required to the driveway width and parking lot layout, they will be incor- porated into our plans. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call. Sincerely, BRW, INC.. ✓7 I Jo B. Horn Project Engineer JBH/sk File 7-8903 1 I 1 1 1 ---- ist ' 1-1'.• 03 11; I _ F.:CC _ u)M • / .---- Cr 0 R U) 6 I :1 . , I 0 WI- -1 i- 2 41 0. I. cx C.3 x . U2 OD X ciu I. i•. /-4 t 0 • a. ;:x •ri k , ..: ;II : II 52 IP . .. Ha ia A: •••• )i uui I. t........)11[;, i-t.. --ilk 1111111111M. . ! ,-. I- II i''') cocc .a+ u., .a: um-) cr 1--t- ,- . , 91 P I I .. co 11,0 ,...,„ . c.,) uirs t-t- cD kup .... ui r____ 1..p 03,„ 0 -•. —1 ..., 1 1, Z. I I I'-(s IT) pi ,,,s, ... ....".. 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Box 147 _ Chanhassen, MN 55317 Re: CH Suites of Chanhassen - Court Yard Dear Mr . Krauss: - I have enclosed a revised Court Yard landscape plan per your request from Our meeting on January 17, 1990 to submit to the • Planning Commission on February 6 and the City Council on February-26, 1990. The revised plan would only be requested - if the City agreed to the revised site plan and easement. If you require further information, please advise. - '---. . . . . ,,-- Sincerely, - _ - _ - ' -. D.W. HUTT CONSULTANTS, INC. • _ _. - . . „--.. - ”- • - ,..,., • -i. --_ ....:-.-"..:-.- -_-_ „.-';---- , - - :- - ...; A. _ p - - -_- . . David J. Hemminger _ - - Director of Project Management ' '- - -,.-_-;._--.- --.--; - --- -.--: : ' . , -_.• - - - -_. 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' The Country Hospitality Suites Hotel will be 84 rooms featuring one-room Demi-Suites with queen size bed, Parlor 1 Suites with king size bed, Executive Suites with king size bed and spa , Luxury Suites with king size bed and a large spa. All rooms will have a full size sofa sleeper and be ' appointed with comfortable furnishings with a country favor . The lobby will be a spacious lobby appointed with comfortable furnishings and a fireplace conversation area . Also , the lobby area will have a continental plus breakfast area which will consist of coffee , juice and assorted rolls, muffins , breads, hot and cold cereals, and fresh fruit . Located off the lobby is a spacious pool area with whirlpool , exercise room, and a game room. The building will be a 3-story wood framed structure at the hotel rooms, the lobby and pool area is a 1 -story wood framed structure , the entire structure is sprinkled for fire protection. 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You're going to get their cards. You're going to know where they're at. I think you're going to get some better long term direction. Bob Smith: At this point I would recommend a continuation from Mr. I Sorenson's standpoint. That he does have an opportunity to work a little more closely with the staff and bring it back to you for one final before it is passed onto City Council if that would be possible. I Conrad: Let's see if someone makes that motion. Is there a motion? Is there anymore discussion? 1 Emmings: I guess if he wants it tabled, then I think we ought to table it. Conrad: Me too. I Emmings: It doesn' t seem unreasonable. Conrad: It's their problem because they have to talk to us again. I Emmings: And we're going to say exactly the same stuff next time. I Conrad: No, no, no. Emmings: Well I am. I'm going to read it out of the Minutes. I Conrad: Is there a motion? Emmings: I'll move that we table the conditional use permit. Oh, site I plan review? Conrad: It's two things. I Emmings: And site plan review for the cold storage units as proposed by Mike Sorenson. 1 Ahrens: I'll second it. s moved, Ahrens seconded to table action on the Conditional s II Emmin U e 9 Permit Amendment and site plan review for expansion of a site for Mike Sorenson, cold storage warehouse facility located on Hwy. 212 just I northeast of Hwy. 169. All voted in favor and the motion carried. REVISED SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR THE COUNTRY HOSPITALITY SUITES HOTEL, LOCATED ON WEST 78TH STREET AND MARKET BOULEVARD, HUTT CONSULTANTS, INC. Paul Krauss presented the staff report on this item. I I 4TTAcH Me N1- • Planning Commission Meeting February 7, 1990 - Page 23 Conrad: Do we have a cedar standard? A cedar shake standard for a rooftos in Chanhassen? Krauss: Well there was an issue that, you know there' s a downtown image and people can argue rightly or wrongly that it's a good image or a bad image but it's an image. There has been a desire on the part of the people ' in the City and the HRA to develop some consistency that you know you're in downtown Chanhassen. To the extent that you don't take prototypical architecture that may fit in well and interchange in Nebraska and plant it ' in the downtown, yeah it becomes an issue. The cedar shake roofing takes off from the fact that the Frontier Building and the Dinner Theater has cedar shake mansured. Other buildings have tried to emulate that but some of the newer buildings are using those Timberline shingles and from a distance they give the same appearance which was why the Council was willing to accept that. There's also a question of whether or not you could do a cedar shake roof with the new roof design. That it would be too heavy and fire proofing would be very difficult. Conrad: So we do have a standard? Who's enforcing that? Is that Fred ' Hoisington? How is Fred getting involved in some of these architectural goals that we have? Is he still used to consult? Krauss: Mr. Chairman, he is and frankly that's something that needs some 1 discussion. Conrad: It's a real intriguing thing and not that I don' t, I like cedar look and I like Timberline shingles and that's all fine with me. Yet, sameness is not necessarily a goal that I personally have in downtown Chan. I don't know. I guess I 'm kind of intrigued by. . . ' Krauss: This building will be physically linked to the Dinner Theater at some point in the future. The concept calls fox. . . Conrad: Okay. End of presentation? Show us this courtyard. Clayton Johnson: I don't have any drawings of the courtyard. rConrad: No drawings? That's the only thing I'm interested in. Clayton Johnson: I think everybody has some drawings except me. ' Krauss: There's a detailed provided here. Clayton Johnson: A couple things. I'm Clayton Johnson representing the Bloomberg Companies. I think it's very important that you understand that there are two different parties here. I represent Bloomberg Company. Dave ' Hemminger is here from D.W. Hutt Consultants. Dave represents the partnership. We are only one of four partners in the hotel project so you're talking here to two different owners and I think everybody's had a difficult time dealing with that. I just wanted to take just Paul, one small exception to your staff report. I just got a chance to read it today and that is, when you originally considered the hotel, the large gabled roof building was in place and you approved it on the basis of that old Planning Commission Meeting I February 7, 1990 - Page 24 building being there. Okay? At the ti me t h at you approved this way back when, the gabled roof building was intending to stay. Subsequent to that approval the City condemned the gabled roof building and we reached an agreement to tear it down. So the original submission showed a 25 foot courtyard Paul. Not 30 and that's not a big deal but it's 25. 20 feet from the edge of the old building to the property line of the replatted I property and a 5 foot setback from the building. From the hotel . Can I gill over here to the board just a minute? Conrad: Please. I thought you were going to have picture to show us. Clayton Johnson: Gabled roof building. Okay, the big one with all the wood shingles on it. The flat roof building which houses Hooked on Classics. This was proposed to come down right? And the hotel, here's thll property line of the replatted property. This is a 20 foot dimension and the hotel which will be 5 feet from that property' line or a 25 foot green area. Okay? Subsequent to, and this is what you approved. What happened' now is that the City has condemned this building and this will all come down. We will be coming to you with a plan for a new building. Alright which you have not seen yet. In Paul 's staff report, he is asking to maintain a 30 foot courtyard or a green area and I don't know where the 30 feet came from. We say it's 25 and we are certainly agreeable to the 25 foot courtyard. This building will be 17 feet. If the new plan is approved, it will be 17 feet from the property line to the edge of the hotel so therefore, in order to maintain 25 feet we'd need an 8 foot easement from the Bloomberg Companies. Now we're more than willing to giv that. That's not a problem. When we come in with our plan for our new building we will at least maintain that and it will probably be greater bu we're willing to give the easement to assure the original courtyard area. The only other thing is that in the staff recommendation there's one thing that's been ignored. It was discussed at the meeting that was held betwee the attorneys of both parties as well as the staff but there will be a connection connecting the hotel to this new project. When we come in for the approval of the new building, there will also be a proposal to connect' the hotel so the easement that we grant here, we' re more than willing to grant. The only thing is, we've got to provide for the provision that the' connection will be permitted on that easement. Emmings: Is the connection enclosed? Clayton Johnson: Yes, it's enclosed. I think that's, so really the only I exception Paul we would take to the staff report is we would agree with the conditions with the exception that it be 25 feet. We would grant you an easement that would assure a 25 foot courtyard and we'll come back with oux' plans and our plans are to have a generous courtyard out there because we think it's going to enhance our building also that we will be building on the site. I Emmings: The new building will be what compass direction from the hotel? Clayton Johnson: It will be east. So is the existing building that house Animal Fair with the fireplace and the bricks, that will stay. But the wood building inbetween, which I call the gabled roof building and the o11 Planning Commission Meeting February 7, 1990 - Page 25 I reason it isn' t down already is that we've been leaving the building in ' place to keep the frost from going into the ground until we get back through Planning Commission and Council to see if they'll approve this change. That's the only reason the building is still there is to prevent frost from going down to the 4 1/2 feet it was on the other area. Okay? Conrad: Good. Wildermuth: Why was it condemned Clayton? Clayton Johnson: Well this is an issue that gets back to, the canopy. I described and I don't know if you read the Council Minutes. I described ' the canopy as Pinnochio's nose. How it continued to grow. From the time that you approved the hotel , BRW in studying the traffic stacking in this whole area concluded that we're going to have a heck of a problem on that intersection and what they wanted to do is get the building back considerably from the road to allow them to redesign the entryway and to redesign the stacking at that intersection. So that meant that a good ' share of the front of the building would have to go. The engineer's looked at it and concluded that really if you took 30 feet off the front of the building, it'd be more economical to take the whole thing because there wouldn' t be enough of the structure left. So what happened, so then the next thing. So that's an agreeable recommendation. We finally got together and agreed on that but now what happened, in the process of designing the restacking, when BRW did it, they now provided for a bus access through there. We want because of the bus traffic into the theatre, there's going to be a lot of bus traffic at the hotel so they redesigned the road in front of the hotel. Now the canopy, instead of being a canopy over a 15 or 20 foot driveway now is a canopy over a 30 foot driveway so when it got down to the final bidding process the only thing, of all the changes, the only one that really dealt with economics was this issue of the canopy. The canopy ended up 44 feet long by 36 feet wide and without any center support when the bids came in, it cost more to build the canopy than I think it did to put the pool in so that' s why we find ourselves back here today with these two changes. Wildermuth: So the problem was resolved by putting the center island in? Clayton Johnson: Yeah. So now what we've got is basically a wood structure. Timbers like what Herb built on the Dinner Theatre instead of a steel superstructure that would have had to have been covered up. So I think we ended up with a more attractive design. Emmings: How long is it? ' Clayton Johnson: 44 feet. It's the same length. It goes all the way out but it's anchored in the middle. And you' ll get a better feel for, you'll be able to see that from Main Street when that big gabled roof building comes down. You'll get a little better feel that it's really going to enhance I think all of Main Street. Dave Hemminger : I might add that we had BRW look at how, if a bus could get in and around that area and they. . . I Planning Commission Meeting ' • February 7, 1990 - Page 26 • I Clayton Johnson: We'll still have the bus traffic flowing through and underneath the canopy and it will all work. ' Wildermuth: What's your feeling on the canopy area? Are you happy with it? Do you think that it enhances the appearance? ' Clayton Johnson: Yeah. Herb likes it. Herb's the one that' s really worked it through. He's placed the canopy as we ended up with it is aesthetically very. . . Wildermuth: I thought we were going to lose something when we lost the canopy. ' Clayton Johnson: Well we're also trying to please Country Hospitality and of course they're growing very rapidly. They've got a few buildings up 1 now. Actually the idea of shrinking the pool area came back from them. The pool area, if it's not attended 24 hours a day by a lifeguard, which it is not, they've found that they want it very secure and they don' t want th pool are real large. They want the pool. People want the pool. They want whirlpool . The exercise area but they don' t want it be a large area that' unsupervised so that's kind of where the 12 foot coming off the building came from. It' s not 12 feet off the whole building. It's 12 feet off thell whole pool/lobby area. Conrad : Okay. Steve, any other questions or comments? Emmings: I have no objection to anything, the changes that have been proposed. I think that we should add into condition 1 that they've got to provide the easement to protect the courtyard and I 'd just add onto that II something like, and for a future enclosed connection to a building to be built east of the hotel. As far as the courtyard dimension is concerned, I don't care if it' s 20 or 30 or 25 frankly but since they proposed 25, I'd 1 go with their number. Wildermuth: What's your feeling on that Paul? Krauss: Well, you know I 'got to the point where you're looking at a project with a fine tooth comb. I had looked at an earlier plan that I thought I scaled off at 30 feet. I just looked through, to be honest though, I just looked through the file here. They gave us subsets of theril are a lot of plans that have developed but one of the plans they gave us in this packet that we delivered to you shows a 25 foot dimension. 25 foot what we need to satisfy building code so that's a critical number. We can't go below that. If you're comfortable with that, we're fine with that. Ahrens: I go along with the staff recommendation on this. Conrad: . I have nothing to add. 25 feet, I don't think 25 or 30 or whatever is magic. I think they'll do, as long as we meet code. I I Planning Commission Meeting February 7, 1990 - Page 27 Wildermuth: I'd like to move the Planning Commission approve the site plan 89-2 for the Country Hospitality Suites as proposed subject to the following conditions. Number one, and number one would be changed to read and providing for an enclosed corridor between the hotel and a new proposed building. Does that meet your requirements Steve? Emmings: Sounds good to me. Wildermuth: And number two, the 30 feet would be changed to 25 feet. ' Conrad: Is there a second? Ahrens: I' ll second it. Conrad : Discussion? How did this motion affect the 12 foot? City Council was not sure what to do when they reviewed it. Our motion. Krauss: Your motion would accept the plans as they are which deletes the 12 feet. ' Conrad: Which deletes the 12 feet, okay. So we didn' t need to highlight that because the plans are the plans and they deleted the 12 feet. Krauss: Essentially the plans that you're adopting today supercede the ones. . . Wildermuth moved, Ahrens seconded that the Planning Commission recommend approval of Site Plan #89-2 for Country Hospitality Suites with the ' following conditions: 1. Provision of a satisfactory easement protecting courtyard areas located at the east and southeast sides of the building providing for an enclosed corridor between the hotel and a new proposed building to the east. 2. The minimum courtyard dimension located east of the hotel shall be 25 feet. All voted in favor and the motion carried. PUBLIC HEARING: ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO CREATE AN R-16 HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. Paul Krauss presented the staff report on this item. Conrad: What does R-16 look like? Do we have any pictures of an R-16? Krauss: What a development in the R-16 might look like? 1 I City Council Meeting - December 18, 1989 II 6. A 55,800.80 performance bond it be posted with the city to guarantee that any overland haulage to the fill area is restored to its present condition, that any &rage to the retention pond is repaired and that all distrubed areas are seeded or sodded as soon as possible with erosion controls being maintained throughout. 7. A grading permit shall be submitted and approved by staff prior to any work beginning on the site. 8. There shall be no filling within 10 feet of the ordinary high watermark. 1 All voted in favor except Councilman Boyt who opposed and the motion carried with a vote of 4 to 1. 1 I REVISED AR HITECTURAL DETAIL, O)UNTRY SUITES HOTEL. ' Paul Krauss: Mr. Mayor, umbers of the City Council. Last Thursday, we've been reviewing building permit plans for the Country Hospitality Suites and last Thursday received same information that there were going to be architectural changes proposed to the building. There's two reasons for the changes. One was apparently the franchise corporation took exception to the roof line that had been proposed. That it didn't match up with their corporate image I guess and that can be explained by the developer in a minute. The other was that there was a basic underlying thrust of trying to save money on constructing the building. There are a lot of changes to the building that were being piposed some of which no longer are being proposed. Same of which are basically' acceptable but they were significant enough that when taken in total, I was unwilling to sign a building permit because I didn't think it was the building you had approved. The changes included modifications to the roof line. Deletion of cedar shake shingles for asphalt shingles. The elimination of one canopy, the small canopy on the west side of the building and a significant downsizing of the main entrance canopy. The building is 12 feet shorter than it used to be. I believe that's probably all the changes that we looked at. Now with regard to the roof line changes, I think there's been same modification since it was first proposed to us last Thursday that took into account suggestions that we invade to Improve the sight line. Basically the original roof system that had been proposed was a massive slab pitched roof that had nothing to break it up or not very much to break it up. As you can see from the - - drawings that they're providing tonight, that there's additional detailing being ,' proposed. The developer's here tonight to address the package that they want you to look at in total. I guess I also had a philosophical issue with this that I should lay on the table and it's that there's been sane occasions in the past where the buildings that have been approved were changed during the building permit process or after that and I was uncomfortable being a party to that. Wan; belief that when you tell ne that you've approved a building, 11 that you have an expectation that that building is actually going to be built. Therefore, and given the time constraints that this developer has, therefore I wanted to bring it back before you tonight and let you make the decision and direct us which way to go on it. In the future, given your direction, my preference is when these genditions crop up is to just say well, if it's a significant deviation from*the approved site plan, you've got to go back through the Planning Or mission, City Council and go through it again because that is '1 not the project that we approved. I coordinated this review with Todd Gerhardt 64 ATfAL.HME II ' and he indicated that the HRA would probably have similar concerns as well. the City has a significant stake in this project and he's scheduled a comparable review for their meeting an Thursday. Councilman Workman: Is there a page that shows the changes? ' Paul Krauss: Well the rear 3 pages, and I'll let Mt. Hamminger explain that but the rear 3 pages of the original in that packet will became what they're proposing now. By the way, I apologize for the late date of getting this to you but events occurred rather fast and we just got these ourselves to look at today. pave Henninger: Good evening Mr. Mawr. Cbuncilme►bers. my name is David He mminger. I represent D.W. Hutt Consultants Inc.. Construction mangement for the firm and Mr. Bloomberg and a partnership for the Country Hospitality Suites Hotel. As Paul mentioned to you, last week I approached him with a request or a ' consideration of what changes could be made to the building to conform with the Country Hospitality Suites signature requirements and by signature requirements I mean building identification. In the hospitality industry, they like to be able to have their buildings identified by certain trademarks. One of the ' trademarks is of course the country look porch at the front of the building. Also the roof pitch as he had mentioned. They were strictly opposed to the flat roof so our alternative was to. approach you with going to a 6:12 pitch roof and trying to get a pitch that would conducive to the other buildings in your city. In doing that I guess I didn't convey well enough to Paul what our intentions was. I understood that he thought we were looking at a pretty well flat roof with no detail. Basically I was trying to get information from Mires to what I type of detail you'd be looking for and then take it back to the architect to find out if that's in fact what we could do and fortunately I think we were able to do that quite well and keep the original facade that you had agreed upon... ' This illustration here showed the flat roof with a mansured and if you look at the vertical elevations of the building you can see that these roof lines right here are still predominant in the gabled roof. They extend a little bit higher ' though because we're going up about 20 feet further with the roof pitch. So the accents are still there. In trying to meet the Suite's requirement though for the pitch roof we ran into another problem and,that was with the cedar shakes. The Code requires that they be fire treated and to fire treat using that type of a shake on that massive of a roof gets to be a pretty substantial cost factor. We were considering in the other application to use a non-treated shake but have it painted over or treated by fire chemical process. That however is no longer I .- acceptable in the State Codes. So what we wanted to propose instead is using a Tilrberline shingle which gives you the same appearance as cedar shakes. The type I'm referring to is what you're seeing put on the Riveria right now. Not ' what is on the shopping center and not what is on the apartment tn3 o ect behind the shopping center. And this shake is a Class A rated shake and it's built up in layers and we're talking in the excess of 250 pounds. In fact it's more like 300 pounds. I'm pretty sure it's 300 pounds. This will give you the same ' effect as the wood shake. If you drive past the Riveria and you look at the snow or at the light, it gives you the same cast from the distance and it has the same effect as a wood shake but it's half the cost of a wood shake. If you ' look, getting back to the roof again, if you look at the second page underneath the site plan you can'see in a view looking down upon the roof. I'm pointing this out to you again to show you that this view is the accents and shows how the shadowed effect of the roof is going to take place so that you'll have that 65 ■ City Council Meeting - December 18, 1989 II same appearance when you look onto the building. That there are jogs and offsets in the roof and it's not just a single plane roof that we're 1 conteplating. The issue on the canopy, what happened there is kind of two fold. N3t*ber one, it took away from the country porch appearance and number two, it became a massive structure because of it's span. The that was proposed or wound up in the final drawings was one that spanned 48 feet and was 32 feet wide. It had to carry a lot of structural load and the eye beams became very massive in it and so what we want to propose is a lesser type of canopy. I should back myself up here a minute. The reason this canopy got to be so big is that it's my understanding it went from a 24 foot driveway to a 30 foot driveway to allow buses to turn in there and unload. That's why it went to a lot bigger than the recommendations of BRW the engineer. however, no cost factors were applied to this or engineering at that time. It's our intention that we want to see a canopy and I think we can do this by if you look at the elevation on the next page behind the roof. The top elevation to the left shows you the entrance into the motel. Our intention is to take that center portion and try to bring that out. However, at this particular time and because of our financial restraints and so forth, we haven't been able to do the engineering or the cost value on that. It's our intention however to do something in that area and what I'm asking for is your blessing in letting us go ahead with a permit and work on that. I think Mr. Bloomberg would even support me in the fact that he's pretty adamant that he wants that canopy and he usually gets his way I think. So we're not throwing that entirely. We want to look at same different alternatives and we want to try and satisfy the franchiser by giving a still a porch type appearance and maybe we can just bring that little canopy of that doorway, bring it on out and serve the same purpose but look at some different engineering, structural engineering on it so we can accomplish that. The situation,%a have shortened the lobby by 12 feet but there was some discussion also that we wanted to move the building 12 feet to the east. Now we have abandoned that idea because again our time restraints and we don't want to go through the process unnecessarily of having to go before zoning again and so forth if we should move that building. So that has been abandoned. One of the concerns was that there was a watermain located along our west foundation wall and Gary was going to do sate research on that. I don't know if he's done that yet for me but he was going to look at that. Gary warren: I haven't finished. We've been looking at whether we can get by without them but I haven't concluded yet. Lave Henninger: So that's an area that we have to address somehow but our 1 intention is not to move the building. Councilman Workman: Why do you want to move it back 12 feet? 1 Delve Hemminger: Well we were going to move it at first to take it off that watermain so we could construct without having to concern ourselves with the Rain. Clayton Johnson: The watermain is going to be abandoned but right not it's underlying the footing. ti Gary Warren: Be abandoned'and replaced. 1 Councilman Johnson: As part of the construction? 1 66 1 1 Dave Hem anger: Be routed around. Gary Warren: As part of the proposed city public improvement project there. We're looking to see if we have enough looping capacity right now to allow it to ' be abandoned since we wouldn't be entertaining construction of the new main until the weather breaks in the spring. Council an Johnson: Will they start construction this winter yet? Dave Hem anger: Would we start? Councilman Johnson: Yeah. Dave Hem anger: Yes. We already have. In fact our lender has required that we ' start as of last week and so that's part of our restraints here. Oouncilzan Bbyt: I have a question if I might. Mt:. Blomberg, don't you have cedar shakes on your building now? ' Dave Hem&inger: He wants to know if you have cedar shakes on your building now. Your existing building. Yes he does. ' Councilman Boyt: Well how is this going to match if you take Timberline and match it up against cedar? ' Herb Bloamberg: You can't tell now with the shortening of the busing, it has it's advantage. It's going to have almost a 40 foot distance between the - • rebuilt area that's being...and the hotel. My feeling is that is doing to be a ' roof line which may be more flat up to a railing on it so the hotel architecture will stand separate from the one going to it. That is the rebuilt one. Our plan was to run the shakes around there and continue like what is on the Animal ' Fair building, a mansur roof and if we have to use the fire rated shingles that's fine with me but to the, I think when we get to the hotel then it will be the asphalt. I think you'll understand the dilemma that we've gotten into on this, a few of these changes. One thing, I wasn't that close to the architect ' when they started but they were approved and very muct involved with the C entry Suites Hotel and I'm as surprised myself that they didn't design in the first place with this gabled structure because I saw these and I was even at the grand I opening of the one in Burnsville which was one of the first ones here. ' But our position today is that we have the permanent financing. We have the interim, financing but the problem is that we have to furnish a term construction ' statement that it can be built for the financing. So what we're asking for is the permit to go ahead on this basis, which is with the asphalt shingles and as far as the carport's concerned, I'm in hopes that we can somehow squeeze that out and get that like a carport. The appearance will be essentially what is on ' the original plan and I think the roof will be a little higher but I think that with the 3 story building, and as you look at that one now, it will be another third higher perhaps in the roof system. which I think will be desireable rather than this projection. This presentation...the man who is actually doing the construction management and we've gotten the bids in and this can be done now in this budget but we do."have I think a good group of partners and I think I can sell them, on doing some other things for the hotel to charge the interior to the 1 City Council Meeting - December 18, 1989 . 1 benefit of what we're trying to do in this community. I think that's more or less the story. 1 Councilman Boyt: Thank you. I guess that explains why you're coring in here because you can't build the initial building for the amount of money you have financed. 1 Dave Heririinger: That's correct. Councilman Boyt: Because what I see you doing is I see you taking a lot of 1 cost, maybe not proportionate to the total cost but a significant dollar amount out of the building cost wise. I'm not sure, one of the things that always troubles re is when the City Council and the HRA are both voting on the same issue. I'm not cocrifortable with that. The HRA has considerable money in this thing and when they put money into it, I really like to see us core out with a product that's everything we hoped it would be so I'm a little relunctant to see the building shrink in size. That's unfortunate that we have to give up the cedar shakes. We've given then up other places in town. I guess I can live with that part of it easier than I can live with the building being 12 feet smaller which rears considerable less square footage. Clayton Johnson: Bill, if I could comment. The 12 feet is only in the pool area. It's not in the rain building. It's in the pool area that the building is being shorten 12 feet. The issue of shakes goes back to on the old plan, when we had a ransured roof, cedar shakes were an insignificant item, but now when we go to the full gable roof and with the new requirements that are,,in place for fire retardancy, the cedar shakes are just not a practical solution. That's the way it is. Up until just recently we could have put on the cedar shakes and fire proofed then with a spray on material. That's no longer permitted under the Code so we have to go to a Class A shingle and Timberline would appear to be the best solution. One other comment. In regard to the canopy. It's like Pinnochio's nose. It keeps growing. We started out with a very modest canopy. The canopy on the Dinner Theatre is about 20 feet long. When the decision was made to tear down the gabled roof building, BRW cage in and helped us redesign all new parking and the stacking in that area. When they did that, the driveway grew to 30 feet because obviously it would be nice to acca o date buses in an orderly manner. [when the road grew to 30 feet, now the '. m canopy grew to 44 feet in length. 44 x 36 so I mean it was just one of those issues that the architect didn't really go back and address after the changes - were made by BRW. So Herb's hope is to maintain the canopy. Care out to the . sidewalk. Project it out over the road. Maintain the same look from the street but get away from that 48 foot by 36 foot mass. It's really huge. Councilman workman: So you're saying you're going to keep the canopy on there? Clayton Johnson: Yes. It's just not going out all the over the road and anchoring on the island. Instead of being 48 feet. Dave Henninger: It won't be 48 feet. Clayton Johnson: It won't-be 48 feet long. II) Councilman Workman: It will be how long? 11 68 1 i IClayton Johnson: Well I don't know. What is it to the streeet it's what Dave? I Councilman Workman: When you say to the street, you're talking about the north side? Clayton Johnson: No, you go out to the sidewalk and then canolever out to the street. 8 feet? Dave Henninger: 8 feet. 8 feet to the sidewalk and then probably another 6 feet our so, it'd be 14 feet. Councilman Wbrkfian: What's 14 feet going to cover? Clayton Johnson: It will permit a tray to go underneath. Dave Herminger: A car and a vehicle to pull up along the end of it so they can get out on one side and go through at the same time. Oouncilrman Johnson: When you say to the street, you're not talking West 78th? Clayton Johnson: We're not talking West 78th Street. See there's that big turn around in there that's 30 feet wide and the original canopy went out to the sidewalk, across the 30 foot street and beyond. That's why it ended up so huge. Dave Her inger: But as Herb has mentioned, we are going to try in the hopes to retake that a longer one yet. To try and get back to that 48 if possible but we Ihave to look at the valued engineering and the structural capability of it. Mayor Chmiel: The days that it rains, if it were to be up to 14 feet, you'd I probably get 1 or maybe 2 cars in there at the max. Councilman Workman: One with the doors open. Mayor Cmiel: Right and I've know that I've gone into different motel/hotels and it's nice and convenient plus I think it adds a lot of aesthetics to it. Makes it look a little more complimentary just as I see the shake shingles because the present Dinner Theatre is all shake shingles and by continuing with those I think would blend in minch better than going to the proposed shingles that you're talking about as well. I = Councilman Johnson: The flat roof too. Isn't the Dinner Theatre so it's just the sides that are shake shingle. Councilman Boyt: It's got a big sloped roof on it. Mayor a r1iel: When we approved this, I liked the appearance of it. I think it had quality. A look that was ocrplinentary. I don't know if these changes now are going to do the same thing for it. I know there are same other shingles I believe that are out on the market that are very close to the shake shingles. Dave Hecrmdnger: What are you referring to? Mayor Chmiel: In ari°asphalt kind of shingle and I'm not sure whether those. •I 69 I 1 City Council Meeting - December 18, 1989 1 Dave Henninger: This is it Mawr Cniel: No, there's same others that I've seen that are other than that. 1 Dave Henninger: There's a heavier grade. Mayor Qrmniel: There's a different grade and it has a little different effect to it. It has a ripple in it just as a shake shingle has. Dave Henninger: Have you seen the roof that's going on the Riveria? Mayor Oriel: Yes. I don't like that one either. My own opinion. Dave Henninger: When you see this and the size that it is, you won't know the difference standing on the ground and looking at it whether it's going to be a cedar shake or an asphalt shake. 1 Mayor QY*niel: I question that. I can distinguish the difference believe me. e. Aesthetically in just looking at it, you can tell the difference. There's no question in my rand. Dave Henninger: You'll tell it in a certain way but quality wise it's going to give you the same impression. That's what you're looking for is, what kind of ambience it gives to you when you're looking at it. Does it give you the impression of the country look, the western look and I think that's what it does for you. And it gives you the best fire rating you can possibly get. . 1 Mayor Qrael: Right. I realize that. ` Dave Henninger: And I think that's a big consideration that should be , considered when you're considering it. Herb Bloomberg: I was just going to comment. I was watching them laying the ' shingles today on the Riveria, finishing up and there was a light snow and you could see every row of shingles. Actually these are 3 thicknesses if you look in places and the minimum of 2 so it is that effect. Obviously this is a sample, I don't think gives you the flavor of it at all. This shows how thick it is. It gets to be about a half inch thick there... All the way through the town there isn't a single new shake roof. However in the rebuilding, what ‘ they're going to be demolishing, that will be shake and it will be mansured which will be very dominant because it's a very high, and then from there down, it must be over 1,000 feet of shake buildings from that building around to the hotel. Down beyond the theatre will be all shake and I think it's the flavor of the town...going to be okay. ...remodeling of the American Legion when they saved in where the Riveria is now. We gave them the shakes for their front entrance. I started the shake business but the closest we've gotten now is the Timberline roof. Mayor Chrniel: Any other discussion? , Councilman Hoyt: What did•.the HRA decide? Councilwoman Dialer: They're going to review it Thursday. I 70 ' Cit. Council Meeting - Dececrber 18, 1989 II Councilman Hoyt: So what we have control over is the building permit. Is that lthe thought? Mayor Crmiel: Yes. Oouncilran Boyt: Well what does the BRA have control over here? Don Ashworth: The only thing the BRA is doing is has an incentive regarding the ' special assessments or parking lot improvements. They are not in any way financing the structure or the land write down or anything else. Councilman Johnson: But they're going to be the special assessment reduction program that goes through the BRA? Don Ashworth: Yes. ' Councilman Boyt: So I guess the question then is would we have approved this if it was caring to us as it is being presented today. might. Councilman Johnson: I think I would. ' Councilman Boyt: I think a canopy's a nice touch. I agree with the Mayor. It will attract same people just because it's a convenience. Councilman Johnson: I've been to too many hotels without the canopies in the ' rain. It seems like it only rains at the hotels without canopies. gi . Councilman Workman: I guess quickly and for expedience sake, it looks like there's 4 deals here. One, shakes. TWo, the building's going to be 12 foot ' shorter. Three, shorter or no canopies. Dave Hemminger: Shorter canopy or an extended canopy. Mawr ChnSel: 14 feet or. ' Dave Hemr finger: Or better. Councilman Workman: And a higher roof line. I like the higher roof line. I I don't mind the shakes. 12 feet shorter, I've got to know more about where that sewer line and that, I don't understand that. Then I think the canopy, I don't mind the country look but a screen door in the front end you know kind of thing. ' Dave I ringer: It's not a screen door. Councilman Workman: It sure looks that my on the picture over here. I guess the apartment building went up in town and gee I heard, I'm also on the BRA and I heard the rest of the BRA kind of mumbling, geez did we approve that. Geez, was that that close to the road for the medical arts building and holy cow and II it was looking kind of bare faced because they had gone through same of the same processes. Stripping it down kind of thing. Minot so sure that there's lots of people that are really happy and I don't want that to happen to this. This is going to be a class act and when you call your room suites, that means it's a Ifancy place, otherwise it'd be just roans. ' 71 City Council Meeting - December 18, 1989 II Dave He manger: Don't let that mislead you though. It has a country there to it and you have to remember that. The idea of the country suites hospitality franchise. Councilman Johnson: You irean they've got an outhouse? Dave Henminger: No. It has the country look and the 12 feet that we're affecting does not affect the units themselves and the suites concept is a bedroom and a parlour concept. That's the concept there. It's not, it going to upgrade it from a budget but it doesn't crake it a high class. Councilman Workman: I understand. I just don't have a very good clarification ' yet on why it has to be 12 feet and maybe ary can give ire that explanation. It's just a general idea of kind of now we're stripping it all back and then currying later about yeah, we approved it and yeah, it doesn't quite come up to where we thought is was supposed to. Dave Herminger: But your 12 foot concern is a small part. I go back to what Herb was saying earlier in your 2 garage affair. It's a small section of just roof and open space. Councilman Johnson: It's the lobby and the swinging pool. Dave Henninger: That's right. It's wide open area so you're not taking a lot of... • 1 Clayton Johnson: There's a lot of history to this. I really don't like the connotation that it's all done for cost. It's done trying to work with the franchisee and part. The whole issue of the pool gets back to an issue of supervision. If you're not going to have full time supervision in the pool area, then they want to keep the pool area small. &caller. In this type of facility you're not going to have full time supervision in the pool area. Councilman Boyt: There's not full time supervision in a pool area in any pool in town in a hotel. 1 Clayton Johnson: There is in a large Holidare or a facility like that but there won't be here so they want to reduce the amount of extra space around the pool. It's trying to satisfy both the franchise and owner. I think we're very tuned into the concerns that have been voiced in the past about what happened to the apartment project. That's why we're caning back to inform you at every step of the way as to what the changes are so you're in a position of being informed rather than surprised. Councilman Johnson: You suggested to Paul to bring this back to us? Clayton Johnson: It was Paul's decision whether to bring it back. All we can do is keep him posted. Councilwoman Daimler Cnn ewe send it back to Planning? Do they need to see it? S Paul Krauss: That's an option. I think you have to determine if the changes are significant enough to warrant that. I think in the future if we continue, say Market Square comes in and it doesn't look like Market Square, it would be 72 1 City Council Meeting = December 18, 1989 I. . Amy inclination to send it beck to the Planning Cd mission. But in this case it sight not warrant that. Councilman Boyt: They're trying to get this built. I would think personally, I ' can give you the shingles. I want the rest of it. I'm not sure about a 48 foot long canopy but I am pretty sure that I don't want it 14 feet long. That won't go so somewhere inbetween there. Higher roof. I agree with what Tom just went ' through. I'm saying of the four, I guess given the way we've shingled the rest of town, that I can live with the Timberline shingles but I don't see the rest of it. I think that was the deal you came in with. I think that's what you should have financed it to do. I'm surprised you didn't finance it to do that. ' Councilman Johnson: I don't even think the 12 feet doesn't bother ewe that much. It also provides a bigger separation between the existing buildings and the ' hotel then. The hardware store building. It's currently a hardware store. It provides a larger separation. I think that's an improvement to changing to shake. ' Herb Bloomberg: ...as I say it's almost 40 feet now and that's enough of a separation so we can set off the difference in the architecture which I still think is going to be compliimentary but it certainly, won't look like...abrupted ichange...really quite handsome transition there. Councilman Johnson: The water pipe issue is on the other side of the hotel from ' the 12 feet issue. What the issue is is whether we can get along without that water pipe while you're constructing and before we have the new water pipe. Is that what I'm getting and engineering is looking at that issue? t IIDave Herrminger: That's correct. Councilman Johnson: What happens if it cares up that we don't have looping ' capacity and we have to have that water pipe functional during your construction? Does all heck break loose? Herb Bloomberg: An engineering study there would prove that that can be ' handled. Obviously the soil test will be taken so we know that...leave the pipe in there and just bury it underneath... IICouncilman Johnson: Abandon it and place it in the future? i Gary Warren: The development contract states that if it is left in place, that ' basically Country Suites, Bloomberg, whatever assures the responsibility if in the future it collapses after it's been abandoned but it would abandoned in place full of sand and grout or whatever so that it would stabilize. ' Councilman Johnson: What if there's building settlement that breaks the pipe, erodes the foundation and their building falls in? Is that the City's problem or is that Bloamberg's problem? ' Dave Hemminger: That becomes a partnership problem. Gary Warren: Partnex"strip. Not the City's. ' Concil:man Johnson: Better be. 73 City Qouroil Meeting - December 18; 1989 Herb Blomberg: It's our problem► because... , Dave Henninger: We would have soil borings done by an outside facility and if the soils warrant that it has to be dug up, then we dig it up and recc pact it. If their findings indicate that we can bridge it, then we fill it as Gary has mentioned. Councilman Johnson: Are we going to be looping it before they move in so ' there's no problem with that? Mayor Chmiel: No. ' Gary Warren: No. Councilman Johnson: So it's going to be, when they build it's going to be a ' functioning watert*ain underneath their building? Gary Warren: At this point in time it would be a functioning water main. What ' we're looking at and should be hopefully resolving it I would hope this week, is do we have enough looping capacity with the improvements that we've done in the downtown inproveaents in Phase 2 of the downtown such that it's not as integral amain as it was before. One of the impacts to that decision is that the Market Square plat and subdivision which as you know also has sate modifications to the waterRain which provides an alternate loop to this connection here so we're looking at how those 2 might end up happening at the sage time in which case we'd be having sane problems. But ultimately the new main would be const"fructed in the spring which would give us back this connection. Councilman Boyt: Now long is the canopy to begin with? Mawr Qriel: 40 some feet. ' Councilran Hoyt: Well it's 48 now. What was it when we first started? Before it kept getting... Clayton Johnson: We started with a 20 foot street so I don't know what that is. Probably 10 feet shorter. Dave Henninger: When we first started it was real short. Councilman Hoyt: Well, 30 something right? ' Clayton Johnson: I can't tell you Bill. All I know is the street grew. Councilman Hoyt: Well I'll make a motion to see if we can get this moving 1 along. I would move that we approve the building permit allowing them to change to shingles. The canopy be it's original length or the closest reasonable thing to that which isn't the 40 feet, it's 30 something. , Clayton Johnson: Well Bill, if it's 30 feet, you're going to have to go all the way over the street. Councilwoman Wailer: It won't go halfway over the street. 74 .city Couuncil Meeting - December 18, 1989 Councilman Johnson: Well 30 feet starts from the building or 30 feet starting I . from the street? Clayton Johnson: 30 feet starting from the building. You're going to end up in the middle of the road. Dave Hem►inger: It has to be 48 feet. Councilwoman Diner: You have to go all the way across the road. Councilman Boyt: Well if you go out to the island, the first island, is that what we've been talking about here tonight is that 48 feet? Dave Hemninger: Yes. Councilman Boyt: It looks like 38 in your diagram. Councilman Johnson: It's another 10 foot to the building. The sidewalk's 8. ' Dave Hemringer: Does he have an old site plan? Councilman Boyt: Well I'd be open to an amendment on the canopy but my basic motion would be that, I have no idea. It looks to me like it's got to be 48 feet but if somebody feels differently, suggest it. I would move approval allowing I the heavy duty Timberline shingle in place of the cedar shakes. Everything else, the high roof line. The 48, whatever length canopy should bethe original length of the building. Councilman Johnson: How about the 12 feet? Councilman Boyt: My motion would be keep the 12 feet, the high roof, the 48 ' foot canopy and allow them to change the shingles. Mayor Ctmdel: Is there a second? Councilman Workman: Second. Councilman Johnson: I'm not sure why you're so hepped up on the 12 feet. Tore 1 in a building that's 300 foot long and this is their entrance, whether their lobby is 12 foot bigger or not. It seems to be a really mirror manner if they can be more economically viable and their franchisee wants it that way, I think we should be able to live with that rather than going to the detail of what we originally approved because what we originally approved wasn't a whole lot more detailed. Councilman Boyt: We're talking about value of the building I think. Square footage translates into value. If they want to care back and say we can spend that money better doing this with it, I'm interested. r Councilman Johnson: Well if they don't build the building at all, then we don't have any value. -; ' Councilman Boyt: That's true. That's an option. 75 City Council Meeting - December 18; 1989 1 Councilman Johnson: And that's an option if pt their financing and their franchisee says go take a jucrip. Councilman Boyt: Well I would suggest to maybe what they want to do is go back 11 to the HRA and see how much money they can get. That's what the people in the apartment building kept doing. I Clayton Johnson: We don't have any assistance other than the straight special assessment. Councilman Boyt: Well, suggest an w-ern3*ient to that. Cbuncilman Johnson: Leave the 12 foot. Let then decide what's econcz'dcally I viable. Mayor Ch',iel: ncplain to me one more time with that 12 feet. It's the Rain entrance. It's the pool area and the main entrance caring in. What else is in there and that's it? Dave Henninger: That's it. 1 Mayor Cruel: What in dollars does that cut back? Dave Heminger: Roughly translated. i Mawr C mie1: How march per square foot? ' Dave Hemminger: Less than $25.00 a square foot. Councilman Johnson: A single story area. And that's what, 7 feet by 12 feet? Councilman Workman: Which end is the 12 feet going to care off of? Dave Heminger: The east end. It separates it back from the existing building. i It'd be this end. Councilman Workman: So as this top cover sheet sits, it should have been 12 ' feet longer. You're showing it shorter. • Dave Hemiinger: Yes. Councilman Wbrkiran: So it should be out to here. Dave HEiminger: That 11 foot 6 is an error. It should be 16. It's 11'6". It 1 should read 16'8". The architect made... Councilman Workman: So it's about 924 square feet? 1 Dave Henninger: Well 25 x 76. Councilman Johnson: So about $25,000.00. Does an insurance man's calculator do ' l square feet? He could be doing house insurance. 1 76 City Council Meeting — December 18, 1989 II Councilman Boyt: I can't believe that $25,000.00 is killing this project. ' Clayton Johnson: It isn't. It was the design consideration. It wasn't an econa'ac consideration. Like Herb points out, the only difference is going to happen now, you're going to lose 12 feet off the building. You're going to gain ' 12 foot in the connecting link. b en the connecting link is built, which is an aisle connection, enclosed, heated, it's going to be 12 feet long. You're going to force us to go all the way back through Country Hospitality again and revise the plan. Councilman Johnson: Country Hospitality, are they local? ' Dave Hsringer: It's a Radisson corporation. Councilman Johnson: /hat's what I thought. ' Councilman Boyt: Well I agree that, I sure don't want to be in the position of designing your building for you but that's apparently that we're in here. If the Council seems to think that we can get rid of the 12 feet and it's not an econamac issue, then pit the shakes back on and take your 12 feet off. Councilman Johnson: For fire safety, which is better the shakes or the ' Timberline? Councilman Boyt: Well it's sitting next to the Dinner Theatre. Don't talk to me about fire safety. Councilman Johnson: It's 40 feet away. ' Clayton Johnson: The Dinner Theatre is all sprinklered. Councilman Boyt: Right but I mean we've already got cedar shakes. Clayton Johnson: an a mansured roof Bill. The whole theatre is a mansured roof. It's got a flat built up roof top. That was the original design. We do not have a building in town that has a roof this massive that's got cedar shakes. I don't know where it is. It would be huge. Councilman Johnson: That's like say because your right foot hurts, you ought to drop a hammear on the left so they both hurt. Mayor Chmiel: The only one you'd have would probably be St. Huubeert's. Old St. Hubert's. . Councilman Johnson: So there's a notion on the floor. Mayor C iel: There is emotion. Couaucilwcran Dimler: Did you amend it? Councilman Johnson: Well they didn't acceptor arerent. I would move an are Brent. Mawr Chmdel: Make a friendly anent. 1 I � City Council Meeting - December 18; 1989 Councilman Johnson: I tried a friendly amendment. Councilman Workman: What was your amendment? Councilman Hoyt: He i tr ed to shorten it up 12 feet. Councilman Johnson: Yeah, I was going to put the 12 feet back. There were 4 1 things you were asking for. Dave Henninger: Actually there's only 3 things. The fourth one is something I approached Gary on. It's 3 things. One is the roof. The second is the shakes and the third was the canopy. Councilman Johnson: We want a canopy. You want a canopy. We're in agreement. We just don't know far you can canolever the canopy out. Whether it goes all the way out the 48 feet or not... Herb Bloomberg: Somehow the canopy's going to be built. Wle have to work with m►y partners and I think I have enough... on it. However, to get the permit now, we have to keep within the budget. Otherwise we can't get a disbursement for the building permit. So we're locked in unfortunately but I'm satisfied that it's going to make a good project and I think everybody's going to be happy with it in the end. Unfortunately we've kind of run out of time to where we're on the job and we're ready to excavate. Dave Heminger: I'd like to add one thing here since everybody is relating to the budget. When the budget was established for this project I was not even involved in it. I came in with a budget that was already established. That's terrible to be honest with you but like we tried to say before, a lot of these things were written by the Radisson Corporation to the architects and it was suggested that it doesn't go in here. That it does not conform to their prototype, etc., etc. and there are certain amenities that they are demanding and don't want to sign off on and we're trying to make everybody happy and get the project going. ' Councilman Johnson: Do you happen to have a letter from then tonight to show us, you know say here's Radisson's letter saying... ..Clayton Johnson: Yeah, I have a letter here. We've exceeded all of their criteria on about 27 out of 30 in tears of specs on the hotel but the one is the gabled roof. Councilman Workman: We had a special :riveting Mr. Johnson, we had a special meeting of the HRA to kind of help out, because I think it does kind of came down to a budget thing here. Wle had a special meeting to discuss or to take care of a collateral situation. In other words move back everything and move it around and maybe you could sense I was a little nervous that night about it. Asking a lot of questions. Now we're kind of scaling things back a little bit and it sounds torte a little bit like it's a budget thing. I still haven't been given a real clear idea of•*why Hospitality Suites thinks that that 12 feet is a consideration in the overall design of a 300 sane foot hotel. I don't know where the city gains by having a longer corridor connecting this thing versus more hotel. I'd rather have more hotel but it all does kind of, if the 78 City Council Meeting - December 18; 1989 II BRA hadn't helped out with that collateral deal, no hotel. If we don't shorten it by 12 feet and do these shakes, no hotel. Wp hear no hotel. It is kind of a II budget thing. That's where I'm starting to get even more nervous because what are we going to do next? Next we're going to have no pool. ' Dave Hemanger: The thing about lobbies though and pools is they're non-productive areas. They do not bring the revenue in. Pools are used normally and you can check any industry standard on this, are used by children. Small children. Adults don't use them. So it's a very costly, expensive daily operational expense. Councilman Wbrkcran: But we knew that when this first care in. IDave Henninger: Okay, but the Radisson and the management people were probably not involved in it. I don't know. At that time, in the preliminary stages and design of this, they probably were not involved in it because I see their plan review was in July of 1989. I believe that was probably presented before that to you. ' Councilman Worknan: Which end is the pool in? Dave Hem3.nger: It's in the east end. ' Counciltan Workman: By the lain entrance? Dave Hem finger: Fast of the main entrance. It's between the exis*ng building and a new building where that walkway is. The walkway leads into the lobby . - portion and the pool is adjacent to that area. Councilman Johnson: So the southeast corner of the rain building. Dave Henninger: The pool is right down here. Then the lobby's up here. Then ' you've got prep kitchens. You've got registration desk. You've got exercise roams. ' Councilman Workman: I think maybe you know where I'm coming frau. It just seems rather natural and a lot of it, it's not just this deal. You get a deal and then it starts to trim up and that's what I get worried about. Councilman Boyt: Well we have a motion, I think and I don't think it's been amended. Mawr a ndel: We have a motion on the floor with a friendly notion. Councilman Boyt: A friendly anendtent that hasn't been taken so far. So that we have the full length building, the full length canopy and the higher roof line. I think the option to that is if it posses, and they don't like it, go back to the Planning Commission. Councilman Johnson: They want the higher roof line so that's one that we're... Councilman Boyt: That's one where there's no problem. So the only two it comes II • down to is the canopy and the full sized hotel. 79 li\ City Council Meeting - Decerher 18, 1989 1 Councilman Johnson: /et re try my friendly amencaent...an unfriendly amendment. , Okay, I move we allow then to knock off the 12 foot and that they have a canopy that's, I'm not sure of the length though. We want a canopy. Mayor Criel: I think build a canopy to a portion that will be a little more excessive than that 14 feet. It right be 15 but I think Herb wants a little more than that. ' Councilman Workaran: 14's in the street then. Councilman Johnson: That's canolevered so there's no post at the end of it. He can't go too mtch further. Councilman W3rkatan: I know what that word means now. Mansured roofs, I'm going ' to find out what those are. Councilman Johnson: So that's my motion is that we have it extend at least 14 feet. A canopy extending at least 14 feet. Paul Krauss: Is that measured from the building or from the curb? Are we talking about the canolevered here, what do you want to cover? Dave Henninger: It's 8 feet to the sidewalk and then another 6 feet out over the driveway. I Councilman Johnson: It's 10 feet to the sidewalk, 8 feet across the sidewalk, you're at 18 feet before you even get to where the car is so let's say a minimum of one car width with the doors open across the parking lot and it's not a Hugo. Paul Krauss: So a canolever of at least 10 feet beyond the curb line. Clayton Johnson: That was the intention of the redesign. Councilman Johnson: Yeah. That would be the notion then. ' Mayor Chmiel: Bill, do you accept that? Councilman Hoyt: He needs a second. That's completely counter to what I was ' trying to do. Councilman Johnson: Yes, I know. I Councilman Boyt: Well mine has a second. We can vote on that. Councilman Boyt moved, Councilman Workman seconded to approve the revised architectural details for Hospitality Suites Hotel to keep the 12 feet in the building, approve the high roof, keep the 48 foot canopy and allow changing to Timberline shingles. Councilman Boyt, Councilman Workman and Councilwoman tinier voted in favor. Councilman Johnson and Mayor Chm1ie voted in opposition and the motion carried with a vote of 3 to 2. '. Dave Henninger: So you just approved what? 80 City Council Meeting - December 18; 1989 II ' Mayor Orde1: We approved basically the asphalt shingle, the high roof and the remaining of the 12 foot. Councilwoman Dialer: And the canopy has to be 48. Clayton Johnson: And if we can't do that, we go back to Planning, right? ' Mayor Ctr iel: Right. Councilman Johnson: Or you convince one of these 3 to ask for reconsideration ' at the next Council meeting. COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS: Mayor Ovdel: We're going to hit these Council Presentations real quick. I'd like to just make you aware of the fact that the State of Minnesota has taken a ' positive step for our children by passing what is called the drug free school and park zone act. This law provides tougher penalties for those who sell and use drugs in and around schools or perks. In other words, what it will do now, the tougher penalty will mean anyone holding or possessing a narcotic drug, ' cocaine, crack, opium or heroine, up to 20 years in prison and up to $250,000.00 fine. Cbuncilwaman Disler: Possession only? Mayor Chmiel: Holding r t g possession. Selling a narcotic drug is up to 25 years in prison and $500,000.00 fine. I'd glad to see that they've taken that to alleviate sate of those problems within schools. Councilman Johnson: I'd like to see what it'd cost to get some signs put up at our parks advertising that. Mayor Chmiel: That's something we could look at. We'll discuss that later but ' I just wanted to point that out to you and I think it's a good proposal or a law I should say. Oka: Bill, Peon Valley quickly. Councilman Boyt: We can cancel that one because he came in and talked about it. 1 Mayor Qrmiel: Police study. Councilman Boyt: I'd like to ask to have that reconsidered. Councilwoman Dialer: You don't want a study commission? Councilman Bout: Well, first off I don't, what I read in the staff report wasn't an accurate reflection of the Public Safety O zmission's motion so that's one bone I have to pick with it. The other one is, I agree with a lot of what II t you and Tom. said. I'd like to have this thing discussed briefly again but not being here I don't know what right I have to ask for reconsideration. ' { Mawr Chmiel: Right. I feel that that's true and I don't know whether that's necessary. 1 81 _1 . I CITYOF . 1 1-. .. 1,,, , : . . - : . :. - 111 690 COULTER DRIVE• P.O. BOX 147• CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 • FAX(612) 937-5739 1 MEMORANDUM TO: Housing and Redevelopment Authority 1 • FROM: Todd Gerhardt, Assistant Executive Director If°, I DATE: January 19, 1990 SUBJ: Architectural Changes for the Country Hospitality Suites I Hotel At the December meeting, the HRA tabled action on this item until 1 a decision was made regarding the canopy. Attachment #2 indicates the changes the Hotel group is proposing. The canopy has been retained and an additional post has been added to support the II canopy as it extends over the entrance. Another concern of the HRA was the market value of the facility II and the loss of value by reducing the building by 12 feet. The Hotel has entered into a minimum market value of $2.5 million and both Clayton Johnson and the County Assessor estimate the I building will be worth $3+ million when complete. Therefore the 12 foot reduction that they are proposing will not impact the assessment agreement the HRA has entered into with the Hotel group. The $2.5 million as agreed upon does create enough incre- II incre- ment to pay off the special assessmentsaon the site over the next three years. Recommendation 1 Staff would recommend°ipproval Of .the-architectural changes for I the Country Hospitality Suites Hotel as presented on -the drawing dated January 11, 1990. ,. Attachments t I 1. Memo from Todd Gerhardt dated December 15, 1989. 2. Site Plan dated January 11,:.1990. I I I 1177A-:f iA..?e.rr Yr 7 1 .51 CITY TF CHANHASSEN 'fey ' 4p= 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317 (612) 937-1900 MEMORANDUM TO: Housing and Redevelopment Authority FROM: Todd Gerhardt, Assistant Executive Director Vp ' DATE: December 15, 1989 ' SUBJ: Consideration of Architectural Changes for the Country Hospitality Suites Hotel ' Attached you will find a memo from Paul Krauss, Planning Director for the City of Chanhassen, outlining the proposed changes to the Country Hospitality Suites hotel. Staff felt that due to the ' number of changes that have occurred on the final plan, that the HRA should review the overall plans again and that they are con- sistent with the architectural style that the HRA has ' established. This issue will also be presented to the City Council at their meeting on Monday, December 18, 1989. Staff will give a ver- bal update regarding the City Council action on this item. Staff has also asked the developer to mail directly to each HRA member the revised plans before Thursday night's meeting. If the BRA is in agreement with the proposed changes, staff would recommend that a new motion be made to accept the proposed - changes. Attachments 1. Memo from Paul Krauss dated December 14, 1989. r 11 I RAdosew I . _ . a 5-' 1 C 1 TY 0 . 1 . . ,.. _., . . . .. i :. , 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147• CHANHASSEN,MINNESOTA 55317 __ (612)937-1900• FAX(612)937-57390" by City ae�,ini:lr�m� �n4etse+ ✓ 1 M6 MEMORANDUM �`ic' ~----- Re °d- 1 TO: Don Ashworth, City Manager De's /z •-1 IDfbe Subm :oe to Commits. PROM: Paul Krauss, Planning Director Qt Dote Suer.;ice to Gounti! 1 DATE: December 14, 1989 /A -/y-S( SUBJ: Proposed Architectural Changes to the Country Hospitality 1 Suites Hotel On Thursday, December 14, 1989, staff met with Dave Hemminger of II D.W. Hutt Consultants who is working on final plans for the Country Hospitality Suites Hotel in Chanhassen. Mr. Hemminger presented staff with a package •of =architectural modifications 11 which have been designed to cutthe costs of construction. As presented to staff, these modifications include changes to the roofline of the building to go;vitha full-hip roof system rather than the mansuered roof that had been originally proposed, a II change from cedar shake shingles toy asphalt shingles, removal of the entrance canopies at the front of .the building, and a decrease in size of the building by spore 12 foot in length. II Staff indicated that we had-serious reservations with these pro- posals and believe that the changes were of a magnitude that the City Council should be asked to authorize them prior to the issuance of any building permits. Todd :,Gerhardt, representing 1 the BRA, indicated that that group also would be interested in reassessing the current plan. Consequently, I have scheduled a time for Mr. Hemminger to make a short presentation to the City II Council of these changes•., ., Due rtto,,;the,:short notice provided by the developer,' plans cannot '°be made-available for review until the City Council;tteeting` _ ..n=t 2RU T w- S II ome of these changes ,are minor or through modifications can be designed to have minimal=impact" on the. building's appearance. The loss of square footage results, lrom•a��diminished size of the II room around the pool building andy`really does not have a signifi- cant impact on the external appearance of the building so long as landscaping and exterior site plans are changed accordingly. II Likewise, staff has worked with the applicant to hopefully design a revised roof section that, while different in appearance, is reasonably attractive and consistent with other buildings in the II_Central Business District. However, the loss of shake shingles, detailing of architectural trim on the roof and of the entrance canopies, in my opinion represents a significant diminishment of the architectural quality of the building. 1 ATrA 0-I tit ari ti 1 IMr. Don Ashworth December 14, 1989 Page 2 III have a fundamental problem with the process that is being requested by the applicant. It is my opinion that the developer I should feel an obligation to construct the building that was pre- sented and approved by the City and should not conclude that significant architectural changes which result in diminished I expenditures are going to be acceptable. If the City Council believes that the current architectural package is acceptable or can be modified to be acceptable, staff should be directed to authorize the building permits accordingly. 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DATE: May 8, 1989• 1 ALL Y CASE NO. 89-2 Site Plan ' Prepared by: J. Olsen STAFF REPORT PROPOSAL: A. Preliminary Plat - Replat Lots 1 and 4, Block 1 Chanhassen Mall B. Rezoning a Portion of the CBD District 2 C. Site Plan Review for an 84 Unit Hotel Q LOCATION: Southeast Corner of West 78th Street and Market Blvd. ' V APPLICANT: Bloomberg Companies, P.O. Box 100, Chanhassen a John Rice Truman Howe & Associates Cl. 630 Interchange Tower Mike Simon Q Highway 12 at CR 18 620 Mendelssohn Avenue Minneapolis, MN 55426 Minneapolis, MN 55427 1 PRESENT ZONING: CBG and BG ACREAGE: 3.1 Acres DENSITY: ADJACENT ZONING AND LAND USE: N- CBD - Chanhassen Bank S- CBD - Filly's E- CBD - Chanhassen Dinner Theatre 0 W- BG - Vacant W WATER AND SEWER: Available to site. imm PHYSICAL CHARAC. : Currently contains existing building, Hooked on Classics, All State Insurance, etc. 2000 LAND USE PLAN: Commercial • I _ co ACA •f I \ i .J ..�./ sst.) • , .wi-4-... . —I fruk........1 Millii - ' ' .*':'•V.A0- 1:1V.' 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SRSF I 664 /,' .tom • Country Suites Hotel I April 19, 1989 Page 2 APPLICABLE REGULATIONS CBD allows hotels as a permitted use. There are no setbacks, height requirements or maximum lot coverage. The minimum lot area is 10,000 square feet with 100 feet street frontage and maximum lot depth of 100 feet (Attachment #1) . REFERRALS City Engineer Attachment #2 I Preliminary Plat The applicant is proposing to construct an 84 unit hotel over two existing lots (Lot 1 and 4, Block 1 of Chanhassen Mall) . Therefore, the applicant is required to replat the property to remove interior lot lines where the hotel is located. The appli- • 1 cant is proposing to create two lots, Lot 1 and 2, Block 1 and five outlots (Outlots A, B, C, D and E) . The proposed site currently has buildings which house Hooked on Classics, Allstate Insurance, Animal Fair, etc. The proposed construction of the hotel will remove the building containing Hooked on Classics, All State Insurance and will leave the building containing Animal Fair. The proposed hotel will be located on Lot 1, Block 1 of Bloomberg Addition and the remaining building will be located on Lot 2, Block 1, Bloomberg Addition. The number of outlots are necessary due to the types of improve- ments that will be made to the site. The parking areas for the site will be located approximately where Outlot A and Outlot D are proposed. As part of negotiations for improvements to the site, the City will be constructing the parking areas for use of the hotel and in front of the existing building on Lot 2, Block 1. In order for the City to make these improvements, the City must have control of those lots. When the City makes the parking lot improvements, the outlots will be transferred to the City and once the improvements are completed the ownership of Outlots A and D will be transferred back to the Bloomberg Companies. Outlots B and C will remain to be utilized as access for both Lot 1 (the hotel) and Lot 2 (the existing buildings) . Outlot E is a seven foot wide strip which is currently part of Lot 1, Block 1, Chanhassen Mall and it will be transferred to the City to provide the 40 foot wide right of way necessary for West 78th Street. As a part of the plat approval a portion of the existing right of way for West 78th Street will be vacated and turned over to the Bloomberg Companies. The right-of-way is shown with the dotted line on Attachment #3. Interior street and utility easements will also be vacated. I I I ' Country Suites Hotel April 19, 1989 Page 3 The proposed Lots 1 and 2, Block 1 meet the minimum area require- ments for lots within the CBD District. Once the outlots are reconveyed to Bloomberg Companies, when improvements to the sites are completed, Lots 1 and 2 will have the required street fron- tage. RECOMMENDATION - Preliminary Plat Planning Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motion: ' The Planning Commission recommends approval of Preliminary Plat #89-7 as shown on the plat stamped "Received April 11, 1989" with the following conditions: 1. The applicant receive vacation of the right-of-way and utility • easements as shown on the preliminary plat. 2. Outlot A and D will be reconveyed to Lots 1 and 2, Block 1, once the improvements to the site have been completed." ' 3. All conditions of the site plan approval. REZONING The area between the westerly edge of Lot 4, Chanhassen Mall is zoned BG (Attached #4) The additional property which is shown as part of Outlot A on the Bloomberg plat was purchased by the City ' from Bloomberg Companies for the construction of Market Boulevard. Since that area is now going to become a part of the hotel site, the property should be rezoned from BG to CBD. Physically, the BG area is already separated from the remaining BG district by Market Blvd. RECOMMENDATION - Rezoning The Planning Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motion: "The Planning Commission recommends approval of Rezoning Request #89-1." ' SITE PLAN _ The applicant is proposing to develop an 84-room hotel located on 2.1 acres zoned CDB. The Central Business District allows the hotel as a permitted use. The CDB district does not have speci- fic requirements for setbacks or lot coverage. rThe hotel will be located on the southeasterly portion of Lot 1, Block 1, Bloomberg Addition as shown as Parcel A on the site 11 plan. The parking area for the hotel will be located on the north and west side of the hotel. The site will be serviced off Country Suites Hotel II April 19, 1989 Page 4 ' of West 78th Street and Market Boulevard. The zoning ordinance requires one parking space for each rental room or suite, plus one space for every two employees. Therefore, the hotel would be required to have 88 parking spaces. The applicant is providing 99 parking spaces. The site plan also shows that there will be seating for continental breakfast. The continental. breakfast will only be for the people using the hotel. Therefore, addi- tional parking would not be required. The height of the building will be three stories at 34 feet. The trash enclosure for the site is located in the southwest corner of the hotel and shall be fully enclosed. Any roof-top equipment will be required to be screened. The applicant is proposing two wall signs. They will be located on the north and south side. The wall signs are 16 square feet and 37 square feet, which meets the requirements of the ordi- nance. The applicant is also proposing one pylon sign which has a height of 20 feet and a square footage of 68 feet. The zoning ordinance only allows a 64 square foot sign. Therefore, the sign must be reduced in size to meet the 64 square foot require- ments. The pylon sign is also shown to have a changeable letter and price area below the Country Suites sign. This would not be permitted unless the total area of both signs equal 64 square feet. Details of the sign and elevations of the building are attached on the back of the report along with reduced copies of the site plan. Landscaping 1 The last page of the set of plans contains the landscaping plan. Several of the plantings shown along West 78th Street and Market Boulvard and south of the hotel are existing plantings. The applicant is also proposing extensive interior landscaping around the hotel site. The applicant is adding a two-foot hedge to be located between the vehicular area and abutting right-of-way. The proposed landscaping plan meets the requirements of the ordinance. RECOMMENDATION - Site Plan ' Staff recommends the Planning Commission to adopt the following motion: -' "The Planning Commission recommends approval of Site Plan #89-2 as shown on site plan dated "March 15, 1989" with the following con- ditions: 1. Final Plat approval of the plat for Bloomberg Addition. 2. The sign facing on the pylon sign shall not exceed 64 square feet. IICountry Suites Hotel April 19, 1989 Page 5 ' 3. Revised plans shall be submitted for approval that address the conditions and discussion contained in this staff report. ' 4. An erosion control plan shall be included in the submittals. 5. All side slopes greater than 3:1 will need erosion ' protection. 6. A typical section of roadway and parking lot is to be shown on the plans for approval with concrete curb and gutter throughout the site. 7. The applicant will be entering into a development contract with ' the City for phased development of the site including the necessary financial sureties to guarantee the proper installation of these improvements. ' 8. All privately owned underground utilities, i.e. telephone, gas, electric, shall be relocated outside of the building pad at the time of construction. 9. All roadway and walkways disturbed by the construction shall be replaced in sufficient proportion to provide a stabilized pavement area. 10. All conditions of preliminary plat approval. ATTACHMENTS 1. Zoning Code. 2. Memo from City Engineer dated April 13, 1989. 3. West 78th Street right-of-way. 4. BG District. 5. Application. 6. Plan Reductions. 7. 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