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CC Packet 2009 01 26A G E NDA C H AN H A SS E N C I T Y C O UNC I L M O NDAY , J ANUARY 26 , 2009 C H AN H A SS E N M UN I C I P A L B U I L D I N G , 7700 M AR K ET B O U LE VARD 5 :30 P .M . - C I T Y C O UNC I L W O R K S E SS I O N , F O UN T A I N C O N F E R E NC E R OO M N o t e : I f t h e C it y C o un c il do e s n o t c o m p l e t e t h e w o r k s e ss i o n it e m s i n t h e ti m e a ll o tt e d , t h e r e m a i n i n g it e m s w ill b e c o n s i d e r e d a f t e r t h e r e g u l a r ag e n da. A . R e v i e w F ee s f o r W a t e r Q u a li t y a n d Q u a n t i t y . B . R e v i e w 2009 K e y F i n a n c i a l S t r a t e g i e s . C . D i s c u ss 2009 L e g i s l a t i v e P r i o r i t i e s. 7 :00 P .M . – R E G U L AR M EET I N G , C I T Y C O UNC I L C H A M B E R S CA LL T O O RD E R (P l e d g e o f A ll e g i a n ce) P U B L I C ANN O UNC E M E N TS D . I nv i t a t i o n t o F e b r u a r y F e s t i v a l . C O N S E N T A G E NDA A ll i t e m s li s t e d u n d e r t h e C o n s e n t A g e n d a a r e c o n s i d e r e d t o b e r o u t i n e b y t h e c i t y c o u n c il a n d w ill b e c o n s i d e r e d a s o n e m o t i o n . T h e r e w ill b e n o s e p a r a t e d i s c u ss i o n o f t h e s e i t e m s . I f d i s c u ss i o n i s d e s i r e d , t h a t i t e m w ill b e r e m o v e d f r o m t h e C o n s e n t A g e n d a a n d c o n s i d e r e d s e p a r a t e l y . C i t y c o u n c il ac t i o n i s b a s e d o n t h e s t a ff r ec o mm e n d a t i o n f o r eac h i t e m . R e f e r t o t h e c o u n c il p ac k e t f o r eac h s t a ff r e p o r t . 1 . a . A pp r o v a l o f M i n u t e s : - C i t y C o u n c il W o r k S e ss i o n M i n u t e s d a t e d J a n u a r y 10 , 2009 - C i t y C o u n c il W o r k S e ss i o n M i n u t e s d a t e d J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 - C i t y C o u n c il S u mm a r y M i n u t e s d a t e d J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 - C i t y C o u n c il V e r b a t im M i n u t e s d a t e d J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 R ece i v e C o mmi ss i o n M i n u t e s : - P l a nn i n g C o mmi ss i o n S u mm a r y M i n u t e s d a t e d J a n u a r y 6 , 2009 - P l a nn i n g C o mmi ss i o n V e r b a t im M i n u t e s d a t e d J a n u a r y 6 , 2009 b . A pp r o v e C i t y C o d e A m e n d m e n t t o C h a p t e r 20 , C o n ce r n i n g C o n d i t i o n a l U s e P e r mi t & I n t e r im U s e P e r mi t S t a n d a r d s . c . F o x H ill P r o j ec t 07 -08 : A cce p t S t r ee t s & U t ili t i e s . 1 V I S I T O R P R E S E N T A T I O NS L A W E N F O RC E M E N T /F I R E D E P AR T M E N T U P DA TE 2 . a . L t . J im O l s o n , C a r v e r C o u n t y S h e r i ff 's D e p a r t m e nt b . C h i e f G r e gg G e s k e , C h a nh a ss e n F i r e D e p a r t m e n t. P U B L I C H E AR I N GS 3 . 2009 S t r ee t I m p r o v e m e n t P r o j ec t s : P u b li c H ea r i n g a n d A u t h o r i ze P r e p a r a t i o n o f P l a n s & S p ec i f i ca t i o n s . 4 . P u b li c W o r k s F ac ili t y , L o t s 5 & 6 , B l k . 1 , C h a nh a ss e n L a k e s B u s i n e ss P a r k 5 t h A dd i t i o n : a . C o n s i d e r V aca t i o n o f D r a i n a g e & U t ili t y E a s e m e n t s . b . S i t e P l a n R e v i e w f o r a n 82 ,500 s q . f t . B u il d i n g . UN F I N I S H E D B U S I N E SS – N o ne N E W B U S I N E SS - N o n e C O UNC I L P R E S E N T A T I O NS AD M I N I S T RA T I V E P R E S E N T A T I O NS C O RR E S P O ND E NC E P AC K ET AD J O URN M E NT A c o p y o f t h e s t a ff r e p o r t a n d s upp o r t i n g d o c u m e n t a t i o n b e i n g s e n t t o t h e c i t y c o u n c il w ill b e a v a il a b l e a f t e r 2 :00 p .m . o n T h u r s d a y . P l ea s e c o n t ac t c i t y h a ll a t 952 -227 -1100 t o v e r i f y t h a t y o u r i t e m h a s n o t b ee n d e l e t e d f r o m t h e a g e n d a a n y t im e a f t e r 2 :00 p .m . o n T h u r s d a y . GUID E L IN E S F O R V ISI T O R P R E S E N T A T IONS We l c o m e t o t h e C h a nh a ss e n C it y C o u n c il M ee ti n g . I n t h e i n t e r e s t of o p e n c o mm u n i c ati o n s , t h e C h a nh a ss e n C it y C o u n c il w i s h e s t o p r ov i d e a n o pp o r t u n it y fo r t h e pu b li c t o a dd r e ss t h e C it y C o u n c il . T h at o pp o r t u n it y i s p r ov i d e d at e v e r y r e gu la r C it y C o u n c il m ee ti n g du r i n g V i s it o r P r e s e n t a ti o ns . 1. A n y o n e i n d i c ati n g a d e s i r e t o s p e a k du r i n g V i s it o r P r e s e n tati o n s w ill b e a c k n o w l e dg e d b y t h e M a y o r . W h e n c all e d up o n t o s p e a k , s tat e y o u r n am e , a dd r e ss , a n d t o p i c . A ll r e ma r k s s h all b e a dd r e ss e d t o t h e C it y C o u n c il a s a w h o l e , n o t t o a n y s p ec i f i c m e m b e r (s ) o r t o a n y p e r s o n w h o i s n o t a m e m b e r of t h e C it y C o u n c il . 2 2. I f t h e r e a r e a n u m b e r of i n d i v i du al s p r e s e n t t o s p e a k o n t h e s am e t o p i c , p l e a s e d e s i g n at e a s p o k e s p e r s o n t h at c a n s u mma r iz e t h e i ss u e . 3. L imit y o u r c o mm e n t s t o f i v e mi n u t e s . A dd iti o n al tim e ma y b e g r a n t e d at t h e d i s c r e ti o n of t h e M a y o r . I f y o u h a v e w r itt e n c o mm e n t s , p r ov i d e a c o p y t o t h e C o u n c il . 4. D u r i n g V i s it o r P r e s e n tati o n s , t h e C o u n c il a n d s ta ff li s t e n t o c o mm e n t s a n d w ill n o t e n g a g e i n d i s c u ss i o n . C o u n c il m e m b e r s o r t h e C it y M a n a g e r ma y a s k qu e s ti o n s of y o u i n o r d e r t o g ai n a t h o r o ug h u n d e r s ta n d i n g of y o u r c o n ce rn , s ugg e s ti o n o r r e qu e s t . 5. P l e a s e b e a w a r e t h at d i s r e s p ec t f u l c o mm e n t s o r c o mm e n t s of a p e r s o n al n at u r e , d i r ec t e d at a n i n d i v i du al e it h e r b y n am e o r i n f e r e n ce , w ill n o t b e all o w e d . P e r s o nn e l c o n ce rn s s h o u l d b e d i r ec t e d t o t h e C it y M a n a g e r . M em b e r s o f t h e C it y C o u n c il a nd s o me s t a ff mem b e r s m a y g a t h e r a t H o u li h a n ’s R e s t a u r a n t & B a r , 530 P ond P r o me n a d e i n C h a nh a ss e n i mme d i a t e l y a f t e r t h e mee ti ng f o r a p u r e l y s o c i a l e v e n t. A ll mem b e r s o f t h e p u b li c a r e w e l c o me . 3 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 Fax 952 227 1404 Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Web Site www ci chanhassen mn us A MEMORANDUM TO l 0 Paul Oehme City Engineer Terry Jeffery Water Resources coordinatO t January 26 2009 FROM DATE SUBJ Review of Fees for Water Quality Quantity Storm Sewer Connection Charges EXECUTIVE SUMMARY I have completed my review of storm sewer connection charges assessed in other communities The comparison was limited in that the assessment methodology and land use classifications differed often significantly between cities The attached spreadsheet shows the cost on a square foot basis trying to match zoning districts as closely as possible The following table lists the average charge per land use in eight 8 metropolitan communities during 2008 and the proposed rate for 2009 in Chanhassen Land Use Category Average 2008 Proposed Chanhassen Rates 2009 Ratio Over under Avera e Commercial 0 236 0 615 1 61 Note Costs are in dollars per square foot Average rates are based upon 2008 rate schedules DISCUSSION Chanhassen has eight different zoning classes which are assessed Other communities use a variety of zoning classifications but the most common schema is to use three zoning classes low density residential high density residential and commercial industrial The City of Shako pee charges every development a flat rate of 0 118 ft2 In addition they charge a treatment and storage fee at varying rates per land use This rate is changed to a flat rate of 0 024 ft2 if the developer employs alternative treatment and storage best management practices Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 4 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Storm Sewer Connection Charges Page 2 The City of Rosemount charges a trunk area charge of either 0 153 ft2 or 0 204 ft2 depending upon land use This is paid at the time of final plat An additional treatment and storage fee is assessed with the SAC WAC charges when the building permit is issued This fee is 745 10t for single family and duplex assuming a typical lot of 1 3 acre this amounts to 0 052 ft2 for single family The fee is 280 unit for multi family housing At 12 units per acre the minimum density to be classified as high density this equals an additional 0 077 ft2 The City of Savage applies five different rates 0 212 ft2 for single family residential 0 256 ft2 for multi family residential and then three classes for commercial industrial based upon percent cover by impervious surface up to a maximum of 0 309 ft2 The Cities of Princeton Bumsville and Waconia use a flat trunk area fee ranging from 0 05 ft2 to 0 260 ft2 Eagan uses a more complicated formula based upon per acre land values plus the cost of excavation at a rate of 8 00 yard The City of Eagan offers numerous credit opportunities The figures included in the Eagan fee also show the fee with a 50 reduction The Cities of Farmington Chaska and Prior Lake all charge a similar fee but the information was not readily available on their websites As of the time of this memorandum I had not yet heard back from the respective agents for these cities According to conversations with the City Engineer for Farmington they are anticipating a 40 increase in stormwater fees Even with the proposed rate increase the City of Chanhassen charges are consistent with what the other communities charge for residential development Chanhassen does charge two times more than the other communities for industrial and commercial development This difference in cost between residential and commercial industrial is intended to reflect the difference in total hardcover and therefore total runoff from the site which needs to be stored and treated It is also important to note that several communities include land in their calculations that would be considered undevelopable in the City of Chanhassen For instance Chanhassen does not assess for any land within a drainage and utility easement which would typically include the entire outlot in which a stormwater pond or wetland is located Conversely many of the other cities including Rosemount Shakopee and Savage charge for everything outside of the high water level for storm water ponds and the normal water level for wetlands The fees indicated for the City of Chanhassen does not reflect any reduction resulting from SWMP credits This could be as much as 25 of the total assessed fee Several other communities do not provide credit for features and some as in Savage charge additional fees if a development is unable to provide adequate on site ponding This additional fee is 0 104 for single family residential 0 178 for multi family residential and 0 357 for commercial and industrial Given the calculation of developable land the credits available in Chanhassen and the additional fees charged by some other cities the stormwater fees charged in Chanhassen is less g eng terry surface water swmp fees other city fees 012609 storm sewer connection charges doc 5 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Storm Sewer Connection Charges Page 3 than shown in the above table in relation to other communities Currently the credits granted to a development are strictly based upon water quality features and do not address volume reduction It may be feasible to tier the industrial and commercial by total impervious coverage so that rates are reduced for those commercial site which seeking to minimize the total area paved Still other credit options might be available such as cisterns green roofs preservation of woodlands in conservation easements or other accepted best management practices for volume reduction Caution is suggested when considering other BMPs as some practices may not be permanent so the net improvement would not be realized in the future This concludes my review of municipal storms ewer charges Should you have any questions please contact me at extension 1168 Thank you for your time and attention Attachment g eng terry surface water swmp fees other city fees O 12609 storm sewer connection charges doc 6 Water Quantity Water Quality cs Other Cities ZOOS Fees WI ZOOS Z009 ZOOS Z009 han El Rosemount R mnt Rosemount Burnsville Shakopee Shakopee V Shakopee Princeton Eagan Eagan 50 Savage Waconia IGH Farmington Prior Lk Single Family 0 054 0 058 0 078 0 094 0 153 745 lot 0 205 0 170 0 118 0 060 0 202 0 120 1 960 0 980 0 212 0 050 0 186 0 146 0 064 Duplex 0 061 0 065 0 108b 0 129b i I 0 153 745 lot 0 221 0 190 0 118 0 114 0 256 0 120 1 930 0 965 0 256 0 050 0 186 0 146 0 064 School Town home 0 102 0 109 0 156 b O 187b iilr IWt4 m 0 204 0 221 0 240 0 118 0 114 0 256 0 120 3 440 1 720 0 256 0 191 0 258 0 106 0 10Z 0 109 s i I 280 unit High Density 0 156 0 198 0 153 0 230 0 240 0 118 0 114 0 256 0 120 3 440 1 720 0 256 0 050 0 191 0 258 0 106 Mediu m Density 0 061 0 065 0 108 0 137 Ot l g 0 153 280 unit 0 192 0 240 0 118 0 114 0 256 0 120 3 240 1 620 0 256 0 050 0 191 0 258 0 106 Industrial 0 314 0 336 0 156 0 198 0 204 0 204 0 260 0 118 0 197 0 339 0 120 1 900 0 950 0 309 0 200 0 191 0 311 0 133 Commercial 0 399 0 427 0 156 0 198 I 0 204 0 204 0 260 0 118 0 197 0 339 0 120 1 900 0 950 0 309 0 200 0 208 0 311 0 133 Parks Open Space 0 054 0 05S 0 041 0 052 l i Q J 1f1 n dlli Active recreation parks included in developale land calculations aAmount varies Based on development type b Amount varies Based on land use designation No credit methodology Assessment to all land except pond to HWL and wetland to delineated boundary collected with SAC WAC at time of building permit issuance plus 1046 impervious acre O 024 SF Wee only charged to that portion which is not treated on site medium density calculated as an average of 6 units per acre high density calculated as an average of 12 units per acre Prior Lk Farmington IGH Savage Princeton iJ Shakopee Burnsville Rosemount Chan 2009 Chan 2008 0 000 I I Iii Commercial 9 Industrial Eil Medium Density iI High Density fa School Townhome iii Duplex IiiI Single Family I I I i i 1 I I I I 0 300 0 400 0 500 0 600 0 700 Cost per Square Foot Comparison of Community Stromwater Charges 7 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 Fax 952 227 1404 Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Web Site VWIW ci chanhassen mn us B T V MEMORANDUM TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager Laurie Hokkanen Assistant City Manager FROM DATE January 21 2009 SUBJ Key Financial Strategies 2009 Since 2002 the City Council has annually set goals and priorities for the coming year The priorities are referred to as Key Financial Strategies KFS The KFS represent the major projects to be undertaken over the next year Included are the projects we discussed at our Visioning Workshop on Saturday January 10th At Monday s workshop we will review the goals Although staff helps to compile this spreadsheet the City Council decides which items will become Key Financial Strategies Each council member assigns a ranking to each item The rankings are averaged and based on these averages the Council will select the KFS for 2009 Following is the schedule for setting the 2009 KFS Saturday January 10 2009 Staff presents suggested KFS to City Council City Council brainstorms additional KFS suggestions Monday January 26 2009 City Council s Final Suggestions for KFS list Tuesday January 27 2009 Staff distributes electronic spreadsheet for City Council rankings Monday February 2 2009 KFS ranking due to Assistant City Manager Monday February 16 2009 Staff presents compiled rankings City Council finalizes 2009 KFS ATTACHMENTS 1 2009 Draft Key Financial Strategies Strategic Plan Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 8 2009 DRAFT Key Financial Strategies Strategic Plan A B C 0 E F G H 1 Key Principles Year FurlonQ Litsey Tiornhom McDonald Ernst AveraQe 2 Competetiveness Introduce a Healthy City Initiative to improve the health wellness and productivity of 2009 3 our residents and work force TH In collaboration with Reach for Resources increase the visibility of adaptive recreation 2009 4 Iproqramminq in the community TH Discuss Mediacom s service LH 2009 5 Discuss the benefits of the City s doq and cat licensinq proqram LH 2009 6 Host a Walkable Community Workshop with Carver County to determine specific 2009 7 needs to improve the walkabilty of our community TH Consider Social Host Ordinance LH 2008 8 Review Citv costs for doinq business in Chanhassen KA 2009 9 Consider the future of Old S1 Hubert s 2009 10 Monitor snowmobile complaints to help determine if ordinance changes are warranted 2009 11 TH JO 12 I 13 Strengthen the City s Financial Position 14 Mid year review of 2009 BudQet and Economic Forecast TG GS 2009 15 Update Financial Policy GS 2009 16 Compile list of unfunded unproductive mandates for leqislative review TG 2009 17 Review Budget Process for efficiency GS 2009 18 I I 19 Planning of the City s Infrastructure 20 mpitheater Gathering Place TH 2003 21 Consider Exoansion of Cultural Activities TH 2006 Work with other agencies to advance implementation of improvements for Highway 2009 22 101 from Lyman Blvd to Scott County Line Imp PO 2009 23 Review Potential Options for State BondinQ Bill PO City of Chanhassen City Council Prioritization January 26 2009 9 2009 DRAFT Key Financial Strategies Strategic Plan A B C 0 E F G H 1 Kev Principles Year Furlonq Litsey Tjornhom McDonald Ernst Averaae Highway 5 Improvements including Minnewashta Parkway Intersection west of 2009 24 Hiahwav 41 PO Work with Carver County to advance TH 41 Trail Pedestrian Underpass 2009 25 Improvements TH Look for partners for storm water capital improvement projects PO 2009 26 27 Follow up on Justification Study for Satelite Fire Station 3 LH 2009 28 29 Enhance Local Tax Base Meet with downtown businesses reqardinq new zoninq to intensify development KA 2009 30 Support the marketplace driven development of industrial residential and commercial 2009 31 land TG LH KA 32 33 Ongoing Projects 34 Monitor benchmarks for the police contract JO LH 2006 35 Continue relationships with outside aqencies state county etc 2003 36 Monitor state and countv financial situations and develop leaislative priorities TG 2003 37 Leveraqe City property as much as possible Marketina of land onaoina TG LH 2003 38 Web Streamina of City Meetinas 2008 City of Chanhassen City Council Prioritization January 26 2009 10 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 Fax 952 227 1404 Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Web Site www ci chanhassen mn us c MEMORANDUM TO Mayor City Council FROM Todd Gerhardt City Manager DA TE 8 January 26 2009 SUBJ Legislative Priorities Attached you will find staff s proposed 2009 Legislative Priorities The list is the same as 2008 with the addition of unfunded mandates My expectation for Monday night s discussion is for the City Council to review the priorities and add any other priorities you feel are important ATTACHMENTS 1 2009 Legislative Priorities Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 11 City of Chanhassen 2009 Legislative Priorities ClTYOF CHWIASSER 1 TH 101 Corridor Project Lyman Boulevard to Scott County Line This is a joint project with MnDOT Carver County Scott County and the Cities of Shakopee and Chanhassen Completed Corridor Scoping Study Analysis Preliminary Design and Environmental Screening Will be officially mapped when environmental reviews are completed anticipated in 2010 at the earliest Applied for funding through the Metropolitan Council s Surface Transportation Program STP but placed 12th which put us out of running for funding this project for 2010 MnDOT planning a mill and overlay of the corridor in 2009 City would prefer to see funds programmed for reconstruction widening of the corridor The city needs this project to expand economic growth create new jobs and expand our tax base Problem No funding source 8 million for Phase I 2 TH 5 Project Improvements West of TH 41 This is a joint project with MnDOT Carver County and the Cities of Victoria Waconia N orwood Y oung America and Chanhassen The city entered into a joint powers agreement for the completion of Corridor Scoping Analysis Preliminary Design and Environmental Screening Once this study is completed the corridor can be officially mapped Problem No fund source Amount 3 Highway 312 Continue Development of Highway 312 The development of Highway 312 from County Road 147 on the Chaska Carver border to the City of Cologne Problem No funding source Amount 4 Environmental The permitting processes are too time consuming and streamlining the processes would be a good start NPDES MS4 Non degradation Wetland Conservation Act and Clean Water Act requirements etc 5 Unfunded Mandates Chanhassen opposes both current and future statutory changes that create mandated tasks that require new or added local costs without a corresponding funding mechanism Without a funding source Chanhassen is potentially in the position of having to increase property taxes and or fees These unfunded mandates add to the responsibilities for cities and the ability to fund traditional service needs G admin tg key financial strategies 2009 priorities doc 12 6 Local Controls The city strongly opposes any effort to weaken the ability of local governments to provide the best services and benefits for their communities Local budgets are subject to intense public scrutiny Inflation alone forces cities to spend more money to maintain current service levels The people who know what is best for this city are the people who live here 7 Keep Opt Out Suburban Transit Agencies in Place Chanhassen supports opt out and suburban transit agencies Creation of these agencies provided residents and businesses with a desired service that met their needs while maintaining financial and management controls The State should refrain from infringing on the ability of local agencies to provide and control bus services for the benefit of area businesses and residents 13 Invitation to February Festival ol s P The City of Chanhassen is once again proud to announce our winter special event the 16th Annual February Festiva1 This special event out of a series of year long special events is being sponsored by the City of Chanhassen and the Chanhassen Chamber of Commerce in cooperation with our local business community February Festival will be held on Saturday February ih At this time I invite all area residents their families and friends to join me on Lake Ann The event will begin at 12 noon including activities like skating sledding hayrides outside weather permitting and a bonfire to warm you Hot food and concessions will be sold on the ice by the Chanhassen Rotary as well as Boy Scout Troop 330 selling s mores kits The Ice Fishing contest will run from 1 00 3 00PM including 3 000 in fish prizes and 4500 in door prizes You can also play bingo on the ice offered by the Friends of the Library who also sponsor a medallion hunt in the city starting on February 2nd The person who finds the medallion receives a 750 prize Ice fishing and raffle tickets for the event are 5 for adults and children You may purchase as many tickets as you like Tickets are available at City Hall the Chanhassen Recreation Center and local businesses More information is available on the city s website I look forward to seeing everyone there D 14 CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION SPECIAL MEETING SUMMARY MINUTES SATURDAY, JANUARY 10, 2009, 8:30 a.m. Mayor Furlong called the meeting to order at 8:33 a .m. COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Furlong, Councilman Litsey, Councilwoman Ernst, Councilwoman Tjornhom, and Councilman McDona ld STAFF PRESENT: Todd Gerhardt, Greg Sticha, Laurie Hokkanen, Kate Aanenson, Paul Oehme, Todd Hoffman, and Jim Olson PUBLIC PRESENT: Rick Dorsey, Jeff Fox, Forrest Adams from the Chanh assen Villager, and two Chanhassen residents with their children (names unknown). REVIEW OF 2008 KEY FINANCIAL STRATEGIES: Todd Gerhardt presented a review of the 2008 Key Financial Strategies. The 2008 accomp lishments were highlighted and those items that needed additional follow-up will be scheduled for City Council work sessions throughout the year. Break from 9:55 a.m. to 10:10 a.m. DISCUSS AND REVIEW THE PROPOSED 2009 KEY FINANCIAL STRATEGIES: the The City Council and staff discussed the proposed 2 009 Key Financial Strategies. The City Council asked for follow-up on snowmobiling complai nts and to monitor the hunting guidelines that were implemented in 2008. Staff was also aske d to bring back the proposed satellite fire station and address recruiting firemen in the area, staffing costs and impacts on our ISO rating. The final 2009 Strategies will be presented to the City Council at their January 26, 2009 work session, at which time the City Council will consid er prioritizing each of the strategies to determine the final list for 2009. The special City Council meeting was adjourned at 1 1:35 a.m. Submitted by Todd Gerhardt City Manager Prepared by Todd Gerhardt C H AN H A SS E N C I T Y C O UNC I L W O R K S E SS I O N J ANUARY 12 , 200 9 M ayo r F u r l o n g c a l l e d t h e m ee t i n g t o o r d e r a t 5 :40 p .m . C O UNC I L M E M B E R S P R E S E N T: M a y o r F u r l o n g , C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y , C o u n c i l w o m a n E r n s t , C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m , a n d C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d S T A FF P R E S E N T: T o d d G e r h a r d t , L a u r i e H o kk a n e n , K a t e A a n e n s o n , P a u l O e h m e , T o dd H o ff m a n , G r e g S t i c h a , a n d T e r r y J e ff e r y R E V I E W G R O UND W A T E R W ELL S T UDY. P a u l O e h m e p r o v i d e d b ac kg r o u n d i n f o r m a t i o n o n t h e w e l l s i t i n g s t u d y b e f o r e i n t r o du c i n g B r i a n L e M o n f r o m B a rr E n g i n ee r i ng w h o r e v i e w e d t h e w e ll s y s t e m i n C h a n h a s s e n a n d E d e n P r a i r i e , a s w e ll a s t h e r e g i o n a l s t u d y b e i n g d o n e b y t h e M e t r op o l i t a n C o u n c i l , w h i c h m o d e l i s b e i ng u s e d b y t h e C i t y o f C h a n h a s s e n . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m a s k e d a b o u t w a t e r qu a n t i t y v e r s u s w a t e r qu a l i t y . B r i a n L e M o n e x p l a i n e d t h e g o a l s o f t h e s t u d y w h i c h p r o v i d e d a n a q u i f e r y i e l d a ss e s s m e n t , p o s s i b l e f u t u r e w e l l l o ca t i o n s a n d po t e n t i a l c o n t a mi n a n t s . T o d d G e r h a r d t a s k e d f o r c l a r i f i c a t i o n o n h o w t h e d a t a w a s o b t a i n e d f o r t h e w e ll s i t i ng m a p . M a y o r F u r l o n g a s k e d a b o u t t h e po t e n t i a l i m p ac t s o f n e w w e l l s o n t h e S e mi n a r y F e n . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d a s k e d i f e ff ec t s o n a q u i f e r s w e r e imm e d i a t e o r d e l a y e d du r i n g d r y y ea r s . B r i a n L e M o n r e v i e w e d t h e f o l l o w i ng r ec o mm e n d a t i o n s : 1 ) M o n i t o r w a t e r l e v e l s o n e x i s t i n g w e ll s . 2 ) C o n n ec t W e ll #4 t o t h e ea s t e r n w a t e r t r ea t m e n t p l a n t . 3 ) P l a n W e l l #14 f o r b u il d o u t t o ea s t e r n w a t e r t r ea t m e n t p l a n t . 4 ) I n v e s t i g a t e W e l l s #2 a n d #10 . 5 ) G a t h e r a d d i t i o n a l d a t a w i t h t h e u s e o f a s t ud y w e l l o f t h e F I G A q u i f e r . 6 ) C o n s i d e r u s e o f W e ll s #5 a n d #6 i n F I G A q u i f e r t o h e dg e a g a i n s t f u t u r e d r y y ea r s . M a y o r F u r l o n g a s k e d a b o u t t h e c o s t a ss o c i a t e d w i t h r e -r o u t i n g W e l l #4 , c l a r i f i ca t i o n o f l o ca t i n g w e ll s c l o s e t o t h e w a t e r t r ea t m e n t p l a n t o r s p r ea d i ng t h e m o u t , a n d i f t h e r e a r e a n y t i m i ng i ss u e s t h e c o u n c i l n e e d s t o a dd r e ss . P a u l O e h m e s t a t e d s t a f f i s l ook i n g f o r f ee d b ac k o n h o w t o p r o cee d . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d a s k e d a b o u t im p ac t s n o t e d i n t h e DN R s t u d y up o n t h e S e mi n a r y F e n a n d p r o t e c t e d t r o u t s t r e a m . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y a s k e d a b o u t t h e c o s t o f o v e r s i z i ng t h e w a t e r m a i n t o a dd r e ss f u t u r e d e m a n d . M a y o r F u r l o n g n o t e d t h a t t h e n e x t l og i c a l s t e p i s m o v i ng f o r w a r d w i t h t h e s t ud y o f W e l l #4 , a f t e r a s k i n g f o r c l a r i f i c a t i o n o n t h e d e s i g n c o s t a n d s h e l f li f e o f d a t a r ec e i v e d f r o m t h a t s t ud y . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t a s k e d f o r d i f f e r e n t o p t i o n s a n d a s s o c i a t e d c o s t s b e p r o v i d e d b y s t a f f . M ayo r F u r l o n g a d j o u r n e d t h e w o r k s e s s i o n a t 7 :00 p .m . S ub m i tt e d b y T o dd G e r h a r d t C i t y M a n a g e r P r e p a r e d b y N a n n O p h e i m 15 C H AN H A SS E N C I T Y C O UNC I L R E G U L AR M EET I N G S U M M ARY M I NU TE S J ANUARY 12 , 200 9 M ayo r F u r l o n g c a l l e d t h e m ee t i n g t o o r d e r a t 7 :05 p .m . T h e m ee t i n g w a s o p e n e d w i t h t h e P l e d g e t o t h e F l ag . 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A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a v o t e o f 5 t o 0 . A PP O I N T M E N T O F AC T I N G M AY O R. C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n L i t s e y s ec o nd e d t o a pp o i n t C o un c i l w o m a n B e t h a n y T j o r nh o m a s A c t i n g M ayo r . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a vo t e o f 5 t o 0 . C O N S E N T A G E NDA: C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n L i t s e y s ec o nd e d t o a pp r ov e t h e f o l l o w i n g c o n s e n t ag e nd a i t e m s pu r s u a n t t o t h e C i t y M a n ag e r ’s r e c o m m e nd a t i o n s: a . A pp r o v a l o f M i nu t e s : -C i t y C o u n c i l W o r k S e s s i o n M i nu t e s d a t e d D ece m b e r 8 , 200 8 -C i t y C o u n c i l V e r b a t i m a n d S u mm a r y M i nu t e s d a t e d D ec e m b e r 8 , 2008 R ec e i v e C o mmi ss i o n M i nu t e s : -P l a nn i n g C o m m i ss i o n V e r b a t i m a n d S u mm a r y M i n u t e s d a t e d D ece m b e r 2 , 200 8 -P a r k a n d R ec r ea t i o n C o mmi ss i o n V e r b a t i m a n d S u mm a r y M i n u t e s d a t e d N o v e m b e r 25 , 2008 -P a r k a n d R ec r ea t i o n C o mmi ss i o n V e r b a t i m a n d S u mm a r y M i n u t e s d a t e d D ec e m b e r 9 , 2008 b . A pp r o v e C o n v e r s i o n o f L a k e A n n B a ll f i e l d #3 t o a D e s i g n a t e d L i tt l e L e a gu e B a s e b a ll F i e l d . 16 C i t y C o u n c i l S u m m a r y - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 2 c . A pp r o v a l o f P a r k a n d R ec r ea t i o n S e r v i ce A w a r d P r o g r a m . d . R e s o l u t i o n #2009 -01: 200 9 S t r ee t I m p r o v e m e n t P r o j ec t s : A cce p t F ea s i b il i t y S t ud y ; C a ll P u b li c H e a r i n g . e . A pp r o v a l o f T e m p o r a r y O n -S a l e L i qu o r L i c e n s e , C h a n h a s s e n R o t a r y C l u b , F e b r u a r y F e s t i v a l , F e b r u a r y 7 , 2009 . h . R e s o l u t i o n #2009 -02: T H 10 1 G a p P r o j e c t 04 -06 : A pp r o v e M n D o t L a n d s ca p i ng P a r t n e r s h i p A u t h o r i za t i o n R e s o l u t i o n . A l l vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a rr i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a v o t e o f 5 t o 0 . V I S I T O R P R E S E N T A T I O N S: N o n e . P U B L I C H E AR I N G : R E Q U E S T F O R AN O FF -S A LE I N T O X I CA T I N G L I Q U O R L I C E N S E , K LE I N P R I N T Z L I Q U O R S , LL C db a M G M L I Q U O R W AR E HO U S E , 785 6 M A R K ET B O U LE VARD. L a u r i e H o kk a n e n p r e s e n t e d t h e s t a f f r e p o r t o n t h i s i t e m . M a y o r F u r l o n g o p e n e d t h e pub l i c h ea r i ng . N o o n e s p o k e a n d t h e pub l i c h ea r i n g w a s c l o s e d . C o un c i l w o m a n T j o r nh o m m ov e d , C o un c il m a n L i t s e y s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C i t y C o un c i l a pp r ov e s t h e r e qu e s t o f K l e i np r i n t z L i qu o r s L L C f o r a n o f f -s a l e i n t o x i c a t i n g l i qu o r l i c e n s e f o r M G M L i qu o r Wa r e h o u s e a t 7856 M a r k e t B o u l e v a r d . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a vo t e o f 5 t o 0 . AR B O R ET U M S HO PP I N G C E N TE R , 7755 C E N T URY B O U LE VARD , K L M S G R O U P, LL C : R E Q U E S T F O R A M I N O R P L ANN E D UN I T D E V E L O P M E N T (P UD ) A M E ND M E N T T O A LL O W A DR I V E -T H RU AND S I TE P L AN R E V I E W ; L O T 2 , B L O C K 1 , AR B O R ET U M S HO PP I N G C E N T E R. P ub l i c P re s e n t: N a m e A dd r e s s M a r k L e u t e m 4645 V i n e w oo d L a n e N o r t h , P l y m o u t h L y nn e E t li n g 7681 C e n t u r y B o u l e v a r d K a t e A a n e n s o n p r e s e n t e d t h e s t a f f r e p o r t a n d upd a t e o n t h e w o r k t h a t h a d t a k e n p l ace s i n ce t h i s i t e m w a s t a b l e d a t t h e N o v e m b e r 10 , 200 8 C i t y C o u n c i l m e e t i n g . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d a s k e d a b o u t t h e n u m b e r o f acc e ss d o o r s r e qu i r e d b y c o d e . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m a s k e d f o r c l a r i f i c a t i o n o f t h e p e d e s t r i a n c i r c u l a t i o n o n t h e s i t e a n d t h e l o ca t i o n o f t h e h a n d i c a p p a r k i n g s t a ll . M a y o r F u r l o n g a n d C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y a s k e d f o r c l a r i f i ca t i o n o f t h e t r a ff i c c i r c u l a t i o n a n d s t ac k i n g r e q u i r e m e n t s f o r t h e d i ff e r e n t b u s i n e s s u s e s o n t h e s i t e . T h e a p p li c a n t , M a r k L e u t e m 17 C i t y C o u n c i l S u m m a r y - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 3 d i s c u s s e d t h e i ss u e s i n v o l v e d w i t h m o v i ng t h e e n t r a n c e t o t h e n o r t h s i d e o f t h e b u i l d i n g a n d r e qu e s t e d t h a t t h e y b e a l l o w e d t o k ee p t h e m a i n e n t r a n ce w h e r e i t i s p r o p o s e d a n d h a v e t h e n o r t h e n t r a n ce a s a s ec o n d a r y ac c e ss . M a y o r F u r l o n g o p e n e d t h e m ee t i n g f o r pub l i c c o mm e n t . L y n n e E t li ng , 7681 C e n t u r y B o u l e v a r d e x p r e s s e d h e r c o n t i n u e d c o n ce r n r e g a r d i n g n o i s e , l a n d s c a p i ng a n d t r a f f i c . A f t e r c o mm e n t s f r o m c o u n c i l m e m b e r s , t h e f o l l o w i n g m o t i o n s w e r e m a d e . C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d m ov e d , C o un c i l w o m a n T j o r nh o m s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C i t y C o u n c i l a pp r ov e t h e P l a n n e d U n i t D e v e l o p m e n t a m e n d m e n t f or A r b o re t u m V i ll a ge (P U D 99 -02 ), P l a nn i n g C a s e #0 8 -2 2 , a m e n d i n g t he d e s i g n s t a n d a r d s S ec t i o n b . P e r m i t t e d U s e s , t o a ll o w a d r i v e -t h r u o n L o t 2 , B l o c k 1 , A r b o r e t u m Sh o pp i n g C e n t e r , w i t h t h e f o ll o w i n g s t a n d a r d s : D r i v e -t h r u f ac i l i t i e s f o r a n y u s e s h a l l c o m p l y w i t h t h e f o l l o w i ng s t a n d a r d s : (a ) T h e y s h a l l n o t b e l o ca t e d a d j a ce n t t o a n y r e s i d e n t i a l l o t li n e s . (b ) T h e y s h a l l b e p r o v i d e d w i t h a s u i t a b l e v i s u a l s c r e e n f r o m a d j a c e n t p r o p e r t i e s . (c ) S t ac k i n g s h a l l b e p r o v i d e d w i t h i n a p p li ca b l e p a r k i n g l o t s e t b ac k s . (d ) S t ac k i n g s h a l l m e e t t h e f o l l o w i ng s t a n d a r d s : (1 ) F a s t F oo d R e s t a u r a n t : s i x ca r s p e r a i s l e . (2 ) B a n k s : t h r ee ca r s p e r a i s l e . (3 ) P h a r m a c y : t w o ca r s p e r a i s l e . (4 ) A l l o t h e r u s e s : t w o ca r s p e r a i s l e . (e ) T h e C i t y m a y r e q u i r e a v e h i c l e s t ac k i ng s t ud y t o d e t e r mi n e w h e t h e r m o r e o r l e ss s t ac k i n g s h a ll b e r e q u i r e d f o r a p a r t i c u l a r u s e . (f ) S t ac k i n g a r ea s s h a l l n o t i n t e r f e r e w i t h v e h i c u l a r c i r c u l a t i o n i n t h e p a r k i n g l o t n o r e n c r o ac h i n t o a n y r e q u i r e d d r i v e a i s l e s . (g ) S p ea k e r o r i n t e r c o m s y s t e m s h a l l n o t b e a u d i b l e a t t h e p r o p e r t y li n e . (h ) A R e s t a u r a n t w i t h a d r i v e -t h r u m a y n o t e x cee d 1 ,550 s qu a r e f ee t i n a r ea .” A l l vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a rr i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a v o t e o f 5 t o 0 . C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d m ov e d , C o un c i l w o m a n T j o r nh o m s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C i t y C o u n c i l a pp r ove t h e s i t e p l a n a m e n d m e n t f or A r b o re t u m Sh o pp i n g C e n t er (S i t e P l a n 03 -06 ), P l a n n i n g C a s e #08 -22 , t o a ll o w a d r i v e -t h r u w i nd o w a nd r e d e s i g n p a r k i n g l a y o u t a nd s i t e c i rc u l a t i o n a s s h o w n i n p l a n s d a t e d r e c e i v e d D e ce m b e r 1 5 , 2 00 8 , w i t h t h e f o ll o w i n g c o n d i t i o n s a nd b a s e d o n a d o p t i o n o f t h e a t t a c h e d F i n d i n g s o f F a c t : 1. A pp r o v a l o f t h e s i t e p l a n i s c o n t i n g e n t up o n a pp r o v a l o f t h e P UD a m e n d m e n t a l l o w i n g a d r i v e -t h r u w i n d o w . 2. T h e w e s t e r n t h r ee a n g l e d p a r k i n g s t a ll s m u s t b e s t r i p e d a n d s i g n e d a s c o m p ac t s t a ll s . 3. A n y e x i s t i n g b u f f e r y a r d p l a n t i n g s t h a t a r e r e m o v e d f o r t h e d e v e l op m e n t m u s t b e r e p l ace d w i t h i n t h e s a m e a r ea . A l a n d s ca p e p l a n m u s t b e s ub m i tt e d t o t h e c i t y f o r a pp r o v a l s h o w i n g l o ca t i o n s a n d s p e c i e s . T h e a p p li ca n t m a y g r o up p l a n t i n g s t o g e t h e r i n o r d e r t o a d d i n t e r e s t t o t h e l a n d s ca p i ng i f t h e d e s i g n d o e s n o t d i m i n i s h t h e s c r ee n i ng ca p a c i t y . 18 C i t y C o u n c i l S u m m a r y - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 4 4. T h e a p p l i ca n t s h a l l w o r k w i t h s t a ff t o l o c a t e t h e p a t i o a nd s ec o nd a r y e n t r a n c e i n t o t h e s p ac e a s s h o w n i n E x h i b i t A . A l l v o t e d i n f a vo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a v o t e o f 5 t o 0 . 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T o dd G e r h a r d t r e mi nd e d t h e c o u n c il a n d pub l i c a b o u t F e b r u a r y F e s t i v a l c o mi ng up o n S a t u r d a y , F e b r u a r y 7 th a n d a n upd a t e o n t h e 112 L ea d e r s M ee t i n g t h a t w a s h o s t e d b y t h e C i t y o f C h a nh a s s e n . C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d s ec o nd e d t o a d j o u r n t h e m ee t i n g . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a vo t e o f 5 t o 0 . T h e C i t y C o u n c i l m ee t i n g w a s a d j o u r n e d a t 9 :25 p .m . S ub m i tt e d b y T o dd G e r h a r d t C i t y M a n a g e r P r e p a r e d b y N a n n O p h e i m 20 C H AN H A SS E N C I T Y C O UNC I L R E G U L AR M EET I N G J ANUARY 12 , 200 9 M ayo r F u r l o n g c a l l e d t h e m ee t i n g t o o r d e r a t 7 :05 p .m . T h e m ee t i n g w a s o p e n e d w i t h t h e P l e d g e t o t h e F l ag . 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V I S I T O R P R E S E N T A T I O N S: N o n e . 23 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 4 P U B L I C H E AR I N G : R E Q U E S T F O R AN O FF -S A LE I N T O X I CA T I N G L I Q U O R L I C E N S E , K LE I N P R I N T Z L I Q U O R S , LL C db a M G M L I Q U O R W AR E HO U S E , 785 6 M A R K ET B O U LE VARD. L a u r i e H o kk a n e n : T h e i r r e qu e s t i s f o r a li qu o r li c e n s e f r o m K l e i np r i n t z L i qu o r s f o r t h e M G M L i qu o r s . T h e o w n e r s a n d a p p l i c a n t s i n v o l v e d i n t h e c u rr e n t a pp li ca t i o n f o r K l e i np r i n t z L i qu o r s a r e o n e o f t h e c u rr e n t li c e n s e h o l d e r s a n d t h e n t h e o t h e r o w n e r o f t h e c o m p a n y . T h i s i s k i n d o f a c l e r i c a l c h a n g e o n t h e i r e n d t h a t w a s r ec o mm e n d e d b y t h e i r a tt o r n e y s w h e n t h e y c l o s e d o n t h e p r o p e r t y . W e d i d b ac kg r o u n d c h ec k s o n b o t h o f t h e a p p li c a n t s . T h e r e a r e n o o u t s t a n d i n g i s s u e s a n d a l s o c h ec k e d w i t h t h e o t h e r o p e r a t i o n s t h a t t h e y h a v e i n n e i g h b o r i n g c o mm u n i t i e s a n d t h e r e a r e n o o u t s t a n d i n g i s s u e s w i t h t h o s e . S o s t a f f d o e s r ec o m m e n d a pp r o v a l o f t h e li qu o r li c e n s e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . H a v e y o u r ece i v e d a l l t h e i n f o r m a t i o n b ac k f o r r e qu i r e d d o c u m e n t a t i o n ? L a u r i e H o kk a n e n : Y e s w e h a v e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , s o i t ’s n o t a c o n t i n g e n t r e c o mm e n d a t i o n a t t h i s t im e? L a u r i e H o kk a n e n : C o rr e c t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , t h a n k y o u . A n y qu e s t i o n s f o r s t a f f o n t h i s i t e m ? O k a y , t h i s i s a pub l i c h ea r i ng s o I’l l g o a h ea d a n d o p e n t h e pub li c h ea r i n g a n d i nv i t e a ll i n t e r e s t e d p a r t i e s t o c o m e f o r w a r d s t a t i n g t h e i r n a m e a n d a dd r e ss f o r t h e r ec o r d p l e a s e . N o o n e t h i s e v e n i n g ? I f n o t t h e n w i t h o u t o b j e c t i o n I’l l c l o s e t h e pub l i c h ea r i ng a n d b r i ng i t b ac k t o C i t y C o u n c il f o r a n y c o mm e n t s o r a m o t i o n . I f t h e r e a r e n o c o mm e n t s , w o u l d s o m e b od y li k e t o m o v e a pp r o v a l ? C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : I’l l m a k e t h e m o t i o n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : I m a k e t h e m o t i o n t h e C i t y C o u n c i l a pp r o v e s t h e r e qu e s t f o r t h e K l e i np r i n t z L i qu o r s LL C f o r a n o f f -s a l e i n t o x i ca t i n g li qu o r li ce n s e f o r M G M L i qu o r W a r e h o u s e a t 785 6 M a r k e t B o u l e v a r d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . I s t h e r e a s ec o n d ? C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : S ec o n d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : M a d e a n d s ec o n d e d . A n y d i s c u ss i o n o n t h a t m o t i o n ? H ea r i n g n o n e , o h I’m s o rr y . I s t h e r e , n o d i s c u ss i o n ? O k a y . C o un c i l w o m a n T j o r nh o m m ov e d , C o un c il m a n L i t s e y s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C i t y C o un c i l a pp r ov e s t h e r e qu e s t o f K l e i np r i n t z L i qu o r s L L C f o r a n o f f -s a l e i n t o x i c a t i n g l i qu o r l i c e n s e f o r M G M L i qu o r Wa r e h o u s e a t 7856 M a r k e t B o u l e v a r d . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a vo t e o f 5 t o 0 . 24 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 5 AR B O R ET U M S HO PP I N G C E N TE R , 7755 C E N T URY B O U LE VARD , K L M S G R O U P, LL C : R E Q U E S T F O R A M I N O R P L ANN E D UN I T D E V E L O P M E N T (P UD ) A M E ND M E N T T O A LL O W A DR I V E -T H RU AND S I TE P L AN R E V I E W ; L O T 2 , B L O C K 1 , AR B O R ET U M S HO PP I N G C E N T E R. P ub l i c P re s e n t: N a m e A dd r e s s M a r k L e u t e m 4645 V i n e w oo d L a n e N o r t h , P l y m o u t h L y nn e E t li n g 7681 C e n t u r y B o u l e v a r d K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a n k y o u M a y o r , m e m b e r s o f t h e C i t y C o u n c i l . A s w a s i n d i c a t e d t h e r e ’s a c o up l e a p p l i ca t i o n s b e f o r e y o u t o n i g h t . O n e i s f o r a P UD a m e n d m e n t t o a l l o w a d r i v e t h r u a n d t h e n a P UD a m e n d m e n t f o r t h e s i t e p l a n a n d t h e n i n c l u d i ng a d o p t i o n o f F i n d i ng s o f F ac t . T h i s o r i g i n a l l y w e n t t o t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n b ac k o n O c t o b e r 22 nd . A t t h a t t im e t h e P l a nn i n g C o m m i ss i o n d i d c o n c u r w i t h t h e s t a f f a g a i n s t t h e r ec o mm e n d a t i o n f o r a d r i v e t h r u . T h i s i t e m a pp ea r e d l a s t b e f o r e y o u o n N o v e m b e r 10 th t o r e v i e w t h e ac t i o n s t h a t w e r e m a d e a t t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n a n d I t h i n k w e h a d a p r e t t y l e n g t h y d i s c u ss i o n r e g a r d i n g t h e a p p l i ca t i o n o f t h e d r i v e t h r u a n d i t w a s d i r ec t e d , y o u d i r ec t e d t h e s t a f f t o , w e w o r k e d t o t r y t o r e s o l v e t h o s e i s s u e s s o I’m h a p p y t o r e p o r t t h a t w e ’v e m a d e s o m e f a i r l y g oo d s t r i d e s o n t h a t i t s e l f . F i r s t I ’d li k e t o a g a i n pu t t h i s i n c o n t e x t o f w h e r e t h e s i t e i s l o ca t e d . I t ’s l o ca t e d o f f o f C e n t u r y B o u l e v a r d , w h i c h i s j u s t t o t h e ea s t o f H i g h w a y 41 a n d j u s t n o r t h o f H i g h w a y 5 . A s h o pp i n g c e n t e r . A g a i n w h e n t h i s a p p li ca t i o n o r i g i n a ll y c a m e i n a n u m b e r o f y ea r s a go , f a s t f oo d w a s p r o p o s e d f o r t h i s s i t e . A t t h a t t im e i t w a s c o n s i d e r e d a c o ff ee s h o p a n d w a s n o t p r o p o s e d . B u t s i n c e t h e n t h e a p p li ca n t h a s w o r k e d t o f i n d a d i f f e r e n t t y p e o f u s e t o f i t i n t h a t . S o t h i s i s t h e a pp r o v e d s h o p p i n g c e n t e r t h a t w a s b u i l t . T h e r e ’s ac t u a l l y a c o u p l e o f b u i l d i ng s o n t h e r e . O n e i s a g a s s t a t i o n w h i c h t h i s s ub j e c t s i t e i s . L o t 2 , B l o c k 1 i n c l ud e s t h e g a s s t a t i o n s o t h e b u s i n e ss t h a t w e ’r e t a l k i ng a b o u t w i t h t h e d r i v e t h r u i s i n c o r po r a t e d i n t o t h a t b u il d i n g i t s e l f , a n d a s y o u r ec a l l i n y o u r N o v e m b e r m ee t i n g t h e r e w a s s o m e d i s c u ss i o n a s t o w h a t t y p e o f u s e c ou l d g o i n t h e r e . W h a t w o u l d b e t h e m a x i m u m s qu a r e f o o t a g e . H o w w o u l d w e qu a n t i f y t h a t ? T h e C i t y d o e s h a v e s t a n d a r d s f o r d i ff e r e n t t y p e s o f d r i v e t h r u , p a r k i n g r e q u i r e m e n t s w h i c h w ou l d d i ff e r e n t i a t e b e t w ee n a d r y c l e a n i ng d r i v e t h r u , a p h a r m a c y d r i v e t h r u a n d a f a s t f o o d d r i v e t h r u a s f a r a s s t ac k i n g , s o t h o s e a r e s o m e o f t h e d e s i g n s t a n d a r d s w e l oo k e d a t w i t h t h i s a p p li c a t i o n . S o t h e o t h e r b u il d i ng i s a s t r i p c e n t e r t o t h e n o r t h , a n d t h a t ’s t h i s b u i l d i ng r i g h t h e r e . A n d t h e n y o u h a v e t h e E d i n a R e a l t y a n d t h e o t h e r r e s t a u r a n t s t h a t a r e i n t h e r e . O n e o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t I w a n t e d t o p o i n t o u t t h a t w e l oo k e d a t w i t h t h i s a p p li c a t i o n i t s e l f i s , t h e i n t e r n a l p a r k i n g h e r e , t h e r e i s s h a r e d p a r k i n g a m o n g t h e u s e s . I f y o u l oo k a t t h e i n t e r n a l p a r k i ng b e t w ee n t h e b u i l d i ng s a n d t h e o r i e n t a t i o n , w h e n w e l oo k e d a t t h i s a p p l i ca t i o n w h e r e t h e d r i v e w a y i s , a n d I’l l s p ea k t o t h a t i n a mi nu t e , w e f e l t i t w a s i m p o r t a n t t h a t t h e acce s s s u r e l y s h ou l d b e o n t h e n o r t h s i d e o f t h e b u i l d i n g i n r e l a t i o n t o h o w t h e ce n t e r i s b e i ng s e r v e d . T o g e t i n t o t h e g a s s t a t i o n y ou ’r e ac t u a l l y k i nd o f c o mi ng a t a n a n g l e i t s e l f . S o a g a i n w e d i d p r o v i d e n e w F i n d i n g s o f F a c t bu t I w a n t e d t o g o b ac k a n d j u s t k i n d o f r e- v i s i t s o m e o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t w e t a l k e d a b o u t , a n d t h a t ’s t h a t t h e b u il d i ng i t s e l f i s 5 ,500 s qu a r e f ee t a n d o f t h a t t h e r e ’s t h e 1 ,500 f o r t h e r e s t a u r a n t . A g a i n s o m e o f t h e c o n ce r n w a s h o w t h a t w o u l d f i t i n t h e r e . S o w i t h t h e 3 a p p li ca t i o n s f o r t h e P UD , t h e d r i v e t h r u , w e a r e r e c o mm e n d i ng 25 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 6 a pp r o v a l a n d i f y o u l oo k i n t h e s t a f f r e p o r t , s o m e o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t w e t a l k e d a b o u t w a s , w i t h t h i s w e d i d g o t o t h e o t h e r o p e r a t i o n a n d o b s e r v e h o w i t o p e r a t e d a n d l oo k e d a t t h e s t ac k i n g . I t d o e s c o m p l y w i t h w h a t w e h a v e a l r ea d y i n o u r c i t y c o d e f o r s t ac k i n g l e n g t h . T h e c o n ce r n t h a t w e h a d a s a s t a f f w o r k i n g w i t h e n g i n ee r i ng i s t h e o r i g i n a l d e s i g n a n d t h e b l o c k i ng o f t h e t r a ff i c . I f y o u l oo k a t t h e f i r s t p r o p o s a l t h a t ca m e i n t h e r e w a s n ’t t h i s g r e e n s p ace a n d y o u c r o ss e d i n f r o n t o f t h e w a l k w a y a n d s o t h e a p p li c a n t d i d p r o v i d e a r e v i s e d d r a w i n g w h e r e y o u h a v e m o r e c o n t r o ll e d acce s s a n d o n e w a y s o w e d o n ’t h a v e t h a t c r o ss p a r k i n g i s s u e , a n d s o w e h a v e o n e w a y g o i n g t o p a r k i n g a n d t h e n o n e w a y t h r o ug h t h e d r i v e t h r u . B u t w e w a n t e d t o g o o n e s t e p f u r t h e r , a g a i n g o i n g b ac k t o w h a t I m e n t i o n e d o n t h e o r i e n t a t i o n o f t h a t b u il d i ng . A cc e ss t o t h e o t h e r s t r i p ce n t e r i s r e a l l y o n t h a t s o u t h s i d e a n d i t s e e m s t o m a k e s o m e s e n s e t o h a v e ac c e s s t o t h i s o n t h e n o r t h s i d e . T h e n i t ’s a l l e n c u m b e r e d i n t h a t s a m e a r ea . S o w h a t w e w e r e r e c o mm e n d i ng i s t h a t t h e acce ss t o g e t i n t o t h e f r o n t d o o r , w h i c h i s r i g h t h e r e , b e r e l o ca t e d o n t h i s n o r t h s i d e , s o t h i s i s t h e s t a ff ’s p r o p o s a l , a n d w e h a v e m e t w i t h t h e a p p li c a n t , a n d t h a t ’s w h a t t h e s t a f f i s r ec o mm e n d i ng f o r t h a t c h a n g e . A g a i n w e h a v e P UD s t a n d a r d s i n h e r e r e g a r d i n g t h e p a r k i n g s t a ll s . I t d o e s m ee t a ll t h e u n d e r l y i ng s t a n d a r d s a s f a r a s t h e n u m b e r o f p a r k i n g s p ac e s . A g a i n i t m ee t s w h a t w e b e l i e v e i s t h e e n g i n ee r i ng s t a n d a r d s a s f a r a s ac c e ss a n d c o n t r o l . 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I t w o u l d n ’t m ee t t h e s t a n d a r d s a s f a r a s p a r k i n g a n d t h a t s o r t o f t h i ng . S o w i t h t h a t s t a f f i s r ec o mm e n d i ng a pp r o v a l o f t h e , t h e m o t i o n s a r e l a i d o u t f o r y o u . A g a i n f o r t h e d r i v e t h r u . A n d a g a i n t h i s w o u l d a p p l y f o r t h i s s i t e o n l y . F o r t h i s b u s i n e ss . F o r t h e s qu a r e f o o t a g e . A n d t h e r e ’s a a m e n d e d s i t e p l a n a s t h e s t a ff i s s h o w i n g w i t h t h e d r i v e w a y , o r t h e f r o n t d o o r m o v e d t o t h e n o r t h , a n d t h e n a l s o t h e a d o p t i o n o f t h e F i n d i n g s o f F a c t a n d I ’d b e h a p p y t o a n s w e r a n y q u e s t i o n s t h a t y o u h a v e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . A n y qu e s t i o n s f o r s t a ff a t t h i s t im e ? M r . M c D o n a l d . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : Y ea h , I h a v e o n e qu e s t i o n . I f y o u go b ac k t o t h e w a y t h e n e w l a y o u t i s w i t h t h e do o r t o t h e n o r t h s i d e a n d y o u ’r e t a l k i ng a b o u t e l im i n a t i n g t h e do o r o n t h e w e s t s i d e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t c o u l d b e e lim i n a t e d . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : O k a y , b eca u s e w h a t I w a s g o i n g t o a s k w a s d o n ’t y o u n ee d t w o e g r e ss e s f o r f i r e c o d e ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : N o , t h e r e ’s a l r ea d y , t h e r e ’s j u s t o n e r i g h t n o w . W e ll , i t w o u l d w o r k . T h e r e ’s a d e qu a t e . T h e y c o u l d m a k e t h a t a n o n , i t d o e s n ’t h a v e t o b e a s l a r g e o f a do o r . I t c o u l d b e a n e m e r g e n c y ac c e ss o n l y c o mi ng o u t , y e s . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : O k a y . O k a y . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t w o u l d n ’t h a v e t o b e t h e p r im a r y . R i g h t n o w i t c l ea r l y l oo k s li k e t h e p r im a r y e n t r a n ce . 26 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 7 C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : O k a y , a n d t h e y h a v e a g r e e d t h e n t o g o w i t h t h e p l a n f o r t h e n o r t h e n t r a n ce a n d t o r e l o ca t e t h e p a t i o . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t h a s b e e n p r e s e n t e d t o t h e m . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : O k a y . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I’m n o t s u r e w e g o t f i n a l c o n c u rr e n c e o n t h a t . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : O k a y . I j u s t w a n t e d t o m a k e s u r e w h a t i t w a s b eca u s e t h e r e ’s a b o u t 3 d r a w i n g s a n d I’m l ook i n g a t a n E x h i b i t A a n d i t s ee m e d l i k e o k a y , t h a t s e e m e d t o b e i n li n e w i t h w h a t y o u w e r e t a l k i ng a b o u t a n d I w a s u n d e r t h e im p r e ss i o n m a y b e t h a t t h e y ’v e a g r ee d w i t h y o u b u t o k a y , t h a n k s . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : I n t e r m s o f m a k i ng t h a t c h a n g e s t r u c t u r a l l y , t h a t ’s a p r e t t y e a s y , I m e a n i s t h e r e s o m e c o s t a ss o c i a t e d ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h e r e i s s o m e c o s t a ss o c i a t e d w i t h i t b u t s t r u c t u r a l l y i t d o e s w o r k . I t ’s n o t . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : I t ’s d o a b l e ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t ’s d o a b l e , y e s . W e d i d h a v e t h e b u il d i ng o f f i c i a l l oo k a t i t b a s e d o n t h e p l a n s . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : I h a v e a qu e s t i o n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : C a n y o u g o o v e r w i t h m e a g a i n t h e w a l k i ng p a t h . I f I’m g o i n g t o p a r k m y ca r o n t h e w e s t s i d e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h . I f y o u l oo k a t t h i s p i c t u r e h e r e . S o i f y o u ’r e o v e r h e r e . S o w h a t w e ’r e d o i n g i s t a k i n g t h e s e p a r k i ng s p ac e s o u t a n d t h e s e , s o t h e a d d i t i o n a l p a r k i ng i s n o w l o ca t e d d o w n h e r e . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : R i g h t . B u t w h e r e ’s t h e w a l k i ng p a t h t o t h e doo r ? D o y o u s t ill h a v e t o . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h i s s i d e w a l k i s s t i l l h e r e . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : B u t y o u s t i l l h a v e t o w a l k ac r o ss o r t h r o ug h t h e o n c o mi ng t r a ff i c ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : N o . N o . Y o u w o u l dn ’t h a v e t o b e t i e d up i n t o t h a t o n c o mi ng t r a f f i c . A g a i n s o m e o f t h e p a r k i n g m a y b e i n t h i s a r ea t oo . N o t a l l o f i t h a s t o b e h e r e b u t y o u ca n c r o ss o v e r . C o m e up t h i s a n d c o m e i n t o t h i s s i d e w a l k h e r e . 27 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 8 M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t y o u w o u l d h a v e t o , i f y o u p a r k o n t h e w e s t e r n m o s t p a r k i n g s p o t s t h e r e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h e a r ea t h a t ’s t o t h e l e f t o f t h e o n e …a s w e ’r e l oo k i n g a t t h e s c r e e n , y o u ’r e g o i n g t o h a v e t o c r o ss t h e d r i v e t h r u t r a ff i c . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . A t s o m e l o ca t i o n , c o rr e c t . A s o p p o s e d t o b e t w ee n t h e m e n u b o a r d a n d t h e ca r s t h a t a r e w a i t i n g a t t h e w i n d o w . M a y b e f o l k s s e e n l oo k i n g a t t h e b u il d i ng a s o pp o s e d t o w h e r e t h e y w ou l d b e l oo k i n g t o w h e r e t h e ca r t r a f f i c w ou l d b e c o mi ng , i f t h a t m a k e s a n y s e n s e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d w i t h t h e d o o r o n t h e n o r t h s i d e , w o u l d t h e r e s t i l l b e s i d e w a l k s a r o u n d ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . T h i s s i d e w a l k w o u l d r e m a i n . T h i s i s t h e s i d e w a l k t h a t ’s i n p l ace r i g h t n o w . T h i s s i d e w a l k r i g h t h e r e . I t ’s h a r d t o s ee w i t h t h a t g r a y . T h a t o n e ’s c u rr e n t l y t h e r e r i g h t n o w a n d t h a t w o u l d c o n t i n u e t o h a v e acce s s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d t h e n i s t h e a p p l i c a n t ’s p r o p o s a l o n t h i s p i c t u r e h e r e , i s t h a t t h e e x i s t i n g c o n f i gu r a t i o n ? O r i s t h a t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s n e w . T h e p a t i o w o u l d b e n e w . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h e p a t i o i s n e w e i t h e r w a y ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e p . A n d t h e n t h a t w o u l d b e , p r o v i d e d t h i s s i d e w a l k c o mi n g d o w n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . S o t h e p a t i o , t h e o r a n g e o n b o t h o f t h o s e i s n e w u n d e r e i t h e r p r o p o s a l ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I t ’s n e w . I t ’s n o t e x i s t i n g . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . Y e s . Y e s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m , o t h e r qu e s t i o n s ? C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : Y ea h , i t s t i l l s e e m s p r e ca r i o u s t o m e l ook i n g a t w h e r e t h e h a n d i ca p p a r k i n g s t a l l i s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : T h a t y o u , i f y ou ’r e h a n d i ca p y o u ’r e s t i l l g o i n g t o h a v e t o g o a g a i n s t t h e f l o w o f t r a f f i c . I m e a n w h a t i s y o u r s a f e p a t h t o g e t t o t h e do o r ? 28 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 9 K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l i n l oo k i n g a t t h i s d r a w i n g , t h i s i s w h e r e t h e h a n d i ca p s p o t c o u l d b e . T h a t ca n e a s i l y b e m o v e d a n d I t h i n k t h a t w o u l d b e a r ec o mm e n d a t i o n t h a t w e p u t t h a t w h e r e i t h a s b e tt e r acce ss t o w h e r e t h e f r o n t d oo r l a n d s , o r o n t h i s e n d up . W h e r e t h a t f r o n t d oo r i s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : N o r t h w e s t . U p n ea r t h e p a t i o ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . I m e a n t h e h a n d i ca p s t a l l c o u l d b e m o v e d t o t h e n o r t h a n d t h a t c ou l d b e r e -s t r i p e d . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : O k a y , a n d . K a t e A a n e n s o n : O r e v e n i t c o u l d b e o n t h e n o r t h s i d e . T h e l a w j u s t s t a t e s i t h a s t o b e s o m a n y p e r p a r k i n g s p a c e s . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : Y ea h , i t j u s t l oo k s li k e k i n d o f a n a w k w a r d s po t e s p e c i a ll y l i k e a d a y l i k e t o d a y w h e n y o u ’r e t r y i ng t o , i f t h e y w e r e t r y i n g t o li k e s a y y ou ’r e i n a w h e e l c h a i r a n d t r y i n g t o g e t o u t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I w o u l d c o n c u r a n d I b e l i e v e t h a t w a s pu t i n p l ace b e c a u s e t h a t w a s t h e c u rr e n t do o r l o ca t i o n s o w h e r e v e r t h a t p r im a r y e n t r a n c e i s , I w o u l d a g r ee w i t h y o u t h a t w e s h o u l d m a k e t h a t a c o n d i t i o n t h a t i t b e r e l o ca t e d t o w h e r e t h a t w o u l d f i t b e s t . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : O k a y . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : W h e n y o u ’r e p a r k e d o n t h e s o u t h s i d e , t h e n e w l y c r ea t e d p a r k i n g s po t s , w h a t w o u l d b e t h e p e d e s t r i a n r o u t e f o r t h e r e ? W ou l d i t b e o n t h e o t h e r s i d e o f t h e b u i l d i n g ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h , y o u ca n ac t u a l l y g o a r o u n d . I’m s o rr y , I k ee p f li p p i ng b ac k b u t y o u ca n , s o i f y ou ’r e d o w n h e r e , y o u ca n go up t h i s w a y a nd a r o u n d t oo . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : T h a t w o u l d p r o b a b l y b e p r e s u m a b l y t h e w a y y o u w o u l d w a n t t o g o o r ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : U m y e s . A g a i n t h e r e i s n ’t a l o t o f p a r k i ng i n t h a t n o r t h e r n p a r k i n g l o t o f t h e b u i l d i ng . O v e r i n t h i s a r ea h e r e , c o rr e c t . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : S o t h a t m e a n s i f t h e y ’r e p a r k i n g t h e r e b u s i n e ss i s g oo d ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l i t ’s a s h a r e d p a r k i n g a n d t h e y a ll d o t h a t n o w . I f y o u go o v e r t o w h a t , t h e t w o o t h e r r e s t a u r a n t s o v e r t h e r e n o w , t h e r e ’s s h a r e d p a r k i n g a n d t h o s e p ea k h o u r s o f r e s t a u r a n t b u t a g a i n w i t h t h e d r i v e t h r u , t h a t ’s g o i n g t o b e a l a r g e po r t i o n o f t h e i r l u n c h t im e t r a f f i c , a n d w e d i d g o a n d o b s e r v e t h a t a t t h e i r o t h e r l o ca t i o n i n E d e n P r a i r i e t o s ee h o w t h a t w a s f u n c t i o n i ng t oo . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : O k a y , t h a n k s . 29 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 10 M a y o r F u r l o n g : O t h e r qu e s t i o n s ? Ms . A a n e n s o n , a s l o n g a s y o u h a v e t h o s e p i c t u r e s up t h e r e w i t h t h a t s o u t h p a r k i n g . B y t u r n i n g t h i s i n t o o n e w a y , i s t h a t g o i n g t o b e a n a t u r a l f l o w f o r t h e ca r w a s h a s w e l l t h e n ? I m e a n ca r s p r e t t y m u c h li n e up b ac k t o w a r d s t h a t … K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e p , a n d I b e li e v e t h a t ’s w h a t e n g i n ee r i ng f e l t w a s t h e s t r o n g r ec o mm e n d a t i o n t oo l oo k i n g a t t h a t l a y o u t , t h a t t h a t s ee m e d t o m a k e t h e m o s t s e n s e f o r s t ac k i n g . M a y o r F u r l o n g : F o r t h e o v e r a ll d e v e l op m e n t . T h e s t ac k i n g r e q u i r e m e n t s t h a t a r e o n p a g e 5 o f t h e s t a f f r e p o r t . T h e l a y o u t . T h e n u m b e r o f v e h i c l e s , s t ac k i n g v e h i c l e s f o r t y p e o f u s e . I s t h i s , d i d y o u s a y t h i s i s c u rr e n t l y i n o u r o r d i n a n c e ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e r ec e n t l y a d o p t e d t h i s w i t h s o m e o f t h o s e c o d e c h a n g e s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : R i g h t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a t ’s w h y I t h o ug h t i t l oo k e d f a mil i a r . O k a y . A n d i t e m (h ) t h e r e , t h e lim i t a t i o n o n t h e s qu a r e f o o t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I s t h a t s p e c i f i c t h i s P U D ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h , w h a t i t s a y s i s f o r , w h a t i t s h ou l d r e a l l y p r o b a b l y r ea d a l i t t l e m o r e c l ea r l y a s r ec o mm e n d e d b y t h e c i t y a t t o r n e y , li k e a d r i v e t h r u r e s t a u r a n t . I t d o e s n o t s a y f a s t f oo d b u t a d r i v e t h r u r e s t a u r a n t w o u l d n o t e x cee d t h a t . A g a i n , t h a t ’s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : S o a d r i v e , a r e s t a u r a n t b a s i c a ll y w o u l d … K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s w h a t i t s h ou l d s a y a n d t h a t ’s w h a t t h e c i t y a tt o r n e y h a d r ec o mm e n d e d , j u s t k i n d o f c h a n g i n g t h a t t w ea k o n t h a t a n d , b eca u s e t h e c o n ce r n w a s t h a t , t h a t t h e r e v e n u e w a s n ’t s o g r ea t o n t h e g a s s t a t i o n s i d e , y o u c o u l d k i nd o f c r ee p t h a t i n t o i t a n d i f i t b e c o m e s b i gg e r t h a n w h a t w e i n t e n d e d , b eca u s e t h e p a r k i n g ’s b a s e d o n t h a t s qu a r e f oo t a g e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . O k a y , a n d d o e s t h i s , t h i s po r t i o n o f t h e b u il d i ng m ee t s t h i s r e q u i r e m e n t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t t h i s i s , (h ) i s P UD s p e c i f i c . T h e o t h e r s a r e c o n s i s t e n t w i t h o u r e x i s t i n g o r d i n a n ce . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . I t i s t h e u n d e r l y i ng z o n i ng d i s t r i c t f o r n e i g h b o r h oo d b u s i n e s s d i s t r i c t d o e s m ee t t h a t a n d t h e n , t h e s t ac k i n g w h i c h w o u l d b e t h e a d d i t i o n a l l e v e l , w o u l d a l s o c o m p l y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . A l r i g h t . T h a n k y o u . A n y o t h e r qu e s t i o n s f o r s t a f f a t t h i s p o i n t ? 30 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 11 C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : O n e l a s t t h i n g w i t h t h e o n e w a y t r a f f i c d i r ec t i o n . D o e s t h a t h e l p f l o w t h e t r a ff i c b ac k t o 78 th S t r e e t b e t t e r d o y o u t h i n k ? O r , I k n o w t h a t w a s o n e o f t h e c o n ce r n s w h e r e t h a t ’s g o i n g t o g o . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I w o u l d t h i n k s o t h a t y o u m a y b e w o u l d c i r c l e b ac k a r o u n d . W e t a l k e d a b o u t t h e U t u r n a n d i t w a s p o i n t e d o u t t h a t t h a t s i g n t h a t w a s o r i g i n a ll y r ec o mm e n d e d i s s t i l l n o t i n p l ace b u t I t h i n k I w o u l d a g r ee w i t h y o u C o m m i ss i o n e r L i t s e y t h a t t h a t , C o u n c ilm a n L i t s e y , t h a t t h a t m a y c o m e , y o u k n o w f o r ce t h a t t o c o m e b a c k o u t t h i s w a y a s o p p o s e d t o c u t t i n g t h r o ug h a n d t r y i n g t o m a k e t h a t U t u r n , w h i c h i s o n e o f t h e , t h a t b i gg e r c i r c u l a t i o n w h i c h k i n d o f g o e s b ac k t o t h e g a s s t a t i o n o r t h e ca r w a s h t h a t t h e y w ou l d m a k e t h a t m o v e m e n t , a n d t h a t w o u l d b e a g o a l . T o t r y t o g e t s o m e o f t h a t t u r n m o v e m e n t . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : O k a y . B eca u s e I k n o w t h a t w a s o n e o f t h e c o n ce r n s . Y ea h , I n o t i ce d t h a t n o U t u r n s i g n ’s s t i l l n o t u p o n C e n t u r y B ou l e v a r d . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . Y ea h . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : T h a t ’s s t i l l t h e g o a l t o g e t t h a t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . T h e C i t y E n g i n e e r i s a w a r e o f t h a t . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : O k a y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . A n y o t h e r qu e s t i o n s f o r s t a f f a t t h i s t im e ? I s t h e a p p li c a n t h e r e t h i s e v e n i n g ? G oo d e v e n i ng . W ou l d y o u li k e t o a d d r e ss t h e c o u n c il o n a n y i t e m s ? M a r k L e u t e m : Y e s I w o u l d . M y a p o l og i e s f o r b e i n g l a t e . I w a s s li d i ng t h r o ug h t h e b r o k e n g l a ss a n d t w i s t e d m e t a l c o mi ng d o w n h e r e . I li v e i n P l y m o u t h . I t t o o k m e a n h o u r a n d a h a l f t o g e t h e r e . A n y w a y , a n d n o t h ea r i n g a ll t h e d i s c u ss i o n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : E x c u s e m e s i r , i f y o u c ou l d s t a t e y o u r n a m e a n d a dd r e ss . M a r k L e u t e m : O h I’m s o rr y . M a r k L e u t e m a n d I l i v e a t 4645 V i n e w oo d L a n e N o r t h i n P l y m o u t h . N o t h ea r i n g a l l t h e d i s c u s s i o n ea r li e r li k e I s a i d , I j u s t w a l k e d i n t h e do o r h e r e b u t I d i d l oo k t h r o ug h , ce r t a i n l y I’m v e r y h a p p y a b o u t t h e a s p ec t s o f t h e d r i v e t h r u . W e h a d , y o u k n o w t h i s i s t h e d i r ec t i o n I k n o w w e n ee d e d t o g o w i t h i t . R ea l l y n o t m u c h i ss u e t h e r e . T h e r e a r e p r o b a b l y f i n e r t h i n g s I w o u l d m a y b e b i c k e r a b o u t b u t I d o n ’t t h i n k t h e y ’r e w o r t h a dd r e s s i n g . L a s t w ee k S h a r m e e n b r o ug h t m e i n a n d t a l k e d a b o u t m o v i ng t h e e n t r a n ce t o t h e b u i l d i ng o v e r t o t h e n o r t h s i d e . Y o u k n o w w e d i s c u ss e d i t . S h e g a v e s o m e e x p l a n a t i o n a s t o w h y . L o n g s t o r y s h o r t o f w h a t h a pp e n e d i s w e i n i t i a l l y p r o p o s e d a b o u t a $23 ,00 0 c h a n g e t o t h e b u i l d i ng . W i t h w h a t w e h a v e t h e r e , d e m o ’i ng o u t t h a t s i d e w a l k . P u s h i ng i t o v e r . I m e a n e s s e n t i a l l y w e ’r e gu t t i n g o u t t h e w h o l e f r o n t . A ll t h e c o n c r e t e w o r k ac r o ss t h e f r o n t o f t h e b u il d i ng r i g h t n o w a n d r e -d o i n g e ss e n t i a ll y . T h i s t h i ng i s r e a ll y g e tt i n g s p e n d y . N o w i f I h a d a 7 o r 8 o r 10 ,00 0 s qu a r e f oo t s p ace t h a t I c o u l d r e n t t h a t I w a s c h a n g i ng , t h a t w o u l d n ’t b e a n i s s u e . I t ’s 1 ,50 0 s qu a r e f ee t . T h i s l i t t l e c h a n g e r i g h t h e r e , t h e c h a n g e , m o v i n g t h e n o r t h e n t r a n ce r i g h t t h e r e , I h a v e n ’t h a d a 31 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 12 c h a n ce t o b i d a l l t h o s e p a r t s o u t b eca u s e li k e I s a i d , I ca n ’t r e m e m b e r i f I m e t w i t h h e r W e d n e s d a y o r T h u r s d a y , b u t I d o e n o ug h o f t h i s s t u f f t o k n o w o n t h e o u t s i d e o f j u s t m o v i ng t h e do o r s, t h o s e t h i n g s y o u k n o w , w e ’v e go t t e n s o f t h o u s a n d s t h e r e . N o w w h a t d o y o u d o t o t h e i n t e r i o r ? 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S o i f t h e c i t y s a y s t h i s i s t h e w a y i t n e e d s t o b e . I f y o u w a n t t o d o i t M a r k , I ’ll h a v e t o acce p t i t . G o b ac k a n d d o t h e m a t h a n d s ee i f w e ca n m a k e i t w o r k . I f w e ’d r e a l l y l i k e t o h a v e a n e n t r a n ce o v e r t h e r e , h a v e t h e p a t i o s i tt i n g a r ea , w h i c h I ’v e b e e n i n f a v o r o f . T h a t ’s o r i g i n a ll y w e n t o n t o t h e d r a w i n g a t m y w i f e , w e ll m y w i f e d r e w i t a n d t h e n h a n d e d i t t o W e s t w o o d a n d t h e y m od i f i e d i t bu t i f w e w a n t t o h a v e a n o t h e r e n t r a n ce o v e r t h e r e , a s e c o n d a r y e n t r a n ce , t h a t ’d b e f i n e . B u t i f y o u s t a n d o u t s i d e t h e b u i l d i ng a n d y o u l oo k a t t h e w i n d o w w h e r e t h e d o o r w o u l d go , y o u h a v e a b o u t 4 f ee t a n d t h e m e n ’s r e s t r o o m i s r i g h t h e r e . T h e do o r f o r t h e m e n ’s r e s t r o o m i s r i g h t t h e r e , a n d s o e i t h e r y o u h a v e a n u n a pp e a l i ng e n t r a n ce i n t o t h e b u i l d i n g o r y o u d e m o o u t t h e r e s t r o o m . C o s t a b o u t $12 ,00 0 t o b u il d o n e o f t h o s e s i n g l e s t a ll r e s t r o o m s s o m e w h e r e e l s e i n t h e r e , a n d t h e n t h a t ’s d i s p l a c i ng s o m e t h i ng e l s e s o y o u d o n ’t , y o u k n o w w e h a d n ’t r ea l l y h a d a c h a n ce t o a n a l y z e i t , w h a t t h e im p a c t i s b u t i n t e r i o r o p e r a t i o n a ll y i t ’s j u s t g o i n g t o g e t v e r y s p e n d y . V e r y , v e r y s p e n d y a n d a g a i n 1 ,500 s qu a r e f ee t , I w i l l n o t m a k e t h a t u p , n o t e v e n c l o s e . I t ’s j u s t a m a t t e r o f h o w m u c h m y y o u k n o w , a l o t o f p e o p l e t h a t a r e n ’t i n c o mm e r c i a l r e a l e s t a t e s a y w e l l i t ’s b e tt e r t o h a v e s o m e t h i n g i n t h a n n o t h i n g , a n d t h a t ’s n o t n ece s s a r i l y t r u e b eca u s e w h e n y o u pu t a n e x p e n s e o u t t h e r e , a n d a g a i n i t ’s a v e n t u r e . I ’m s u r e w h a t w e p u t i n t h e r e w i l l b e s u cce s s f u l , b u t y o u ’r e s t ill a t r i s k a n d t h e r e ’s s t i l l a l o t o f m o n e y g o i n g i n t o i t . L i k e I s a i d I’m p r o b a b l y t i p p i ng I d o n ’t k n o w , I’m r i g h t n o w gu e s s i ng $60 ,000 -$80 ,000 . J u s t i n t h i s p i ece . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T o r e l o ca t e t h e e n t r a n c e ? M a r k L e u t e m : N o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O h o k a y . M a r k L e u t e m : N o , n o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h e w h o l e p r o j ec t . M a r k L e u t e m : Y e a h . Y o u k n o w t h e e n t r a n ce , b u t s ee b u t t h e e n t r a n ce li k e I s a i d i t ’s k i n d o f li k e w e ll o n ce y o u m o v e t h i s p i e c e , o k a y n o w w h a t do y o u h a v e t o m o v e a f t e r t h a t ? B eca u s e a g a i n w h e n y o u h a v e 1 ,500 , i t ’s v e r y i n t r i ca t e . Y o u k n o w t h e r e ’s n o t a l o t , t h e r e ’s n o s l o p p y s p a ce i n t h e r e a n d w e ’r e b e i n g li m i t e d t o 1 ,55 0 s o I’m n o t u p h e r e a r g u i n g . I ’m n o t s a y i ng t h i s t h a t . I’m j u s t s a y i ng t h a t m o v i ng t h e m a i n e n t r a n ce , i f w e w e r e t o s a y i f w e c ou l d k ee p t h e m a i n e n t r a n ce t h e r e , a n d t h e y w a n t a d d i t i o n a l , a s i d e e n t r a n ce s a y c o mi n g i n f r o m t h e o t h e r o n e s . B u il d t h e p a t i o o u t t h e r e a n d t h e d ec k , t h a t w o u l d m a k e s e n s e b u t s a y i ng w e ll w e h a v e t o r e do e v e r y t h i ng o v e r t h e r e , y o u k n o w m a y b e y o u w a l k o u t . I k n o w w e ’r e g o i n g t o b u il d a p a t i o b u t w h e n y o u 32 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 13 w a l k o u t s i d e , t h a t ’s f i n e b u t h a v i ng t o r e -t o o l t h e w h o l e , y o u k n o w i n t e r i o r o f t h e s t o r e . W e ll n o t t h e w h o l e b u t a t l e a s t h a l f o f i t . A n y t i m e y o u s t a r t m o v i ng p l u m b i ng y o u k n o w . M o v i n g c e i l i ng s a r o u n d a n d l i g h t f i x t u r e s , I m e a n t h a t ’s n o t t o o b a d b u t a n y t im e y o u h a v e t o g o i n t o t h e f l oo r a n d s t a r t m o v i ng p l u m b i ng a r o u n d , i t g e t s v e r y , v e r y e x p e n s i v e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : S o i f I u n d e r s t a n d y o u c o r r ec t l y w i t h , I d o n ’t k n o w i f i t ’s a r e qu e s t o r j u s t t o m a k e u s a w a r e . A d d i n g a s e c o n d e n t r a n ce up t h e r e , a s i d e e n t r a n ce t h a t w o u l d m o v e o u t t o w h e r e t h e p a t i o i s . C a n y o u pu t up t h e s c h e m a t i c f o r t h e p a t i o l a y o u t s t h a t w o u l d f i t f o r li k e t h e s t a ff ’s p r o p o s e d p a t i o o r i e n t a t i o n w ou l d b e . A n e n t r a n ce r i g h t t h e r e w i t h t h a t s i d e w a l k g o i n g a ll t h e w a y up . M a r k L e u t e m : Y e a h w e h a v e , I m e a n w e w a n t t h e p a t i o a r ea y o u k n o w . I m e a n t h a t ’s m a i n l y i t ’s a pp e a l . I d o n ’t k n o w i f I w a n t t o pu s h i t t h a t c l o s e t o m y e l ec t r i c a l b o x a n d t h e m ec h a n i c a l do o r a n d t h e g a s s t a t i o n b u t m a y b e i t c o m e s o v e r a b i t . B u t i f y o u ’r e s a y i ng l oo k , y o u k n o w w e w a n t t o h a v e ac c e s s o u t t h i s s i d e , j u s t i f I c a n l e a v e t h i n g s a l o n e , I ca n j u s t pu l l o u t t h e f i x t u r e . C u t o u t 4 f ee t o f c o n c r e t e a n d d r o p i n a n a l u m i n u m d oo r , o k a y t h a t ’s n o t d i s r up t i v e i n t h e g r a n d s c h e m e o f t h e o p e r a t i o n w i t h i n t h e f a c il i t y . C h a n g i ng t h a t a s t h e m a i n e n t r a n ce , y e s . B eca u s e s o m e o n e g o i n g o u t a s i d e d o o r i s n o t g o i n g t o h a v e a p r o b l e m w a l k i ng p a s t a r e s t r o o m . S o m e o n e ’s c o mi ng i n f o r a f i r s t t im e y o u k n o w a nd i t ’s t h e m a i n e n t r a n ce li k e o k a y , t h a t d o e s n ’t f i t . A l s o m y c o n ce r n s o m e w h a t t o o i s t h a t t h e e n t r a n c e w h e r e i t i s r i g h t n o w i s k i n d o f c e n t r a l i n t h e p a r k i n g . T h e p a r k i n g ’s k i n d o f a l l a r o u n d i t a nd i f w e m o v e t h e e n t r a n ce up t o t h e n o r t h t h e r e , t h e n n o w t h e p a r k i n g i s a l l t h i s w a y a r o u n d i t w h e r ea s i f i t s t a y s t h e r e i t ’s a l i tt l e b i t m o r e ce n t r a l . T h e o t h e r p a r t t oo f r o m o u r s t a n dp o i n t i s v i s u a l f r o m C o u n t y R o a d 5 y o u k n o w a n d t h a t ’s , y o u k n o w t h a t ’s a b i g d e a l f r o m t h e s t a n dpo i n t o f b e i n g v i s u a l t o d r a w p e o p l e o f f t h e s t r e e t y o u k n o w . M a y o r F u r l o n g : C a n I a s k t h e m o t i v a t i o n f o r m o v i n g t h e e n t r a n ce i s f o r … K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l t w o f o l d . O n e , s o m e o f t h e , y e a h t h e o r i e n t a t i o n . T h e t w o b u s i n e ss e s f ace ea c h o t h e r i n t h a t l i t t l e c o rr i d o r . I t h i n k y o u m a y h a v e s o m e p e op l e , p r o b l e m a t i c o r n o t t h a t w o u l d c h oo s e n o t t o g o b e t w ee n t w o ca r s. W h e n y o u h a v e p ea k h o u r s o f h i g h t r a ff i c o f g o i n g t h r o ug h t h e d r i v e t h r u , t h a t w o u l d c h oo s e n o t t o w a l k b e t w ee n ca r s . Y o u d o n ’t n o r m a ll y s ee t h a t . S o w h e n t h e r e ’s a t im e t h a t t h e r e ’s n o t t h a t , t h e y w o u l d c h oo s e a d i f f e r e n t e n t r a n ce , w h e t h e r t h e y w a l k t h r o ug h . W e h a d o u r b u il d i ng o f f i c i a l l oo k a t i t . I u n d e r s t a n d y o u r ae s t h e t i c i ss u e . I d o n ’t u n d e r s t a n d t h e p l u m b i ng i ss u e b u t t h a t y o u c o u l d g e t t h r o ug h t h i s do o r a n d m a k e t h a t a r ea s o n a b l e , b e s i d e s j u s t a s i n g l e p a n e . M a yb e a l i tt l e b i t w i d e r s o I gu e ss w e w o u l d s a y t h a t t h a t m a k e s s e n s e t o h a v e t h a t s ec o n d a r y d o o r s o y o u ’r e n o t f o r c i n g p e op l e t h a t m a y n o t c h o o s e t o w a l k , e s p e c i a ll y i f y o u ’v e g o t s o m e o n e w i t h k i d s t h a t ’s n o t g o i n g t o p r o b a b l y c h oo s e t o w a l k b e t w e e n p a r k e d ca r s , o r ca r s t h a t a r e , r i g h t . M a r k L e u t e m : S u r e , g i v i ng p e o p l e s o m e o p t i o n s a n d c h o i ce s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : S o Ms . A a n e n s o n i f I h ea r d y o u t o h a v e t h a t n o r t h e n t r a n ce a s a s ec o n d a r y e n t r a n ce , i s t h a t s o m e t h i ng t h a t w o u l d . 33 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 14 K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . Y e p . M a y o r F u r l o n g : S t a f f w ou l d s upp o r t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : S o t o c o n t i n u e t o u s e t h e e x i s t i n g e n t r a n ce a n d m a y b e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’d b e f i n e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t t o h a v e t h a t s ec o n d a r y e n t r a n ce a s w e ll . M a r k L e u t e m : R i g h t , a n d a s f a r a s t h e s i d e w a l k w o r k t h a t y o u h a d i n t h e o t h e r o n e t h e r e , i f w e c o u l d l e a v e t h e e x i s t i n g s i d e w a l k m a y b e a n d t h e n j u s t a dd t h e p a t i o i n t o t h a t o r y o u k n o w i n c o r po r a t e i t s o . K a t e A a n e n s o n : L i k e t h i s , a n d t h e n s t i l l h a v e o n e c o mi ng d o w n h e r e . M a r k L e u t e m : Y e a h . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s f i n e . M a r k L e u t e m : Y e a h , t h a t ’s a c o up l e t h o u s a n d d o l l a r s w o r t h o f s i d e w a l k r i g h t t h e r e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t I gu e ss y o u r p o i n t Ms . A a n e n s o n w a s , i f y o u g o w i t h t h e a p p li c a n t ’s p r o p o s a l f o r t h e p a t i o s i d e w a l k , b u t a l s o m a k e a s i d e w a l k c o n n ec t i o n f r o m t h e p a t i o t o t h e s i d e do o r , t o t h e n o r t h doo r ? M a r k L e u t e m : O h ce r t a i n l y . Y e a h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W ou l d b e a n a t u r a l f l o w . M a r k L e u t e m : Y e a h . Y o u k n o w b u il d i ng t h e p a t i o y o u b u i l d a f e w e x t r a f ee t . I m ea n t h a t ’s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t ’s i n t e r e s t i n g , w e h a d t h e d i s c u ss i o n w i t h J i mm y J o hn's a n d I d o n ’t w a n t t o d i g r e s s t o o m u c h b u t t h e y h a v e t h e f r o n t e n t r a n ce f a c i n g t h e i n t e r i o r o f M a r k e t S qu a r e . T h a t ’s t h e m a i n e n t r a n ce , b u t w e s t r o n g l y e n c o u r a g e t h e m b eca u s e p e o p l e w a l k i ng d o w n M a r k e t B o u l e v a r d , t h e b u s i n e ss c o mm u n i t y i n h e r e , ca n c ho o s e t o g o i n t h a t w a y i n s t ea d o f w a l k i ng a ll t h e w a y a r o u n d . T h i s i s t h e s a m e e x a m p l e I w o u l d s a y h e r e . Y o u k n o w t h a t o n e d o e s n ’t h a v e a d r i v e t h r u b u t p e o p l e m a y n o t c h oo s e t o w a l k , a ll t h e w a y w a l k a r o u n d t h e b u i l d i ng . M a r k L e u t e m : R i g h t , a n d a s I t o l d S h a r m ee n t oo , I c o n ce p t u a l l y I c o m p l e t e l y a g r ee . K a t e A a n e n s o n : O k a y . 34 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 15 M a r k L e u t e m : T h a t m a k e s s e n s e , b u t a s w e ’r e s i tt i n g r i g h t n o w , w h e n I t a l k e d t o m y p o t e n t i a l t e n a n t a b o u t w h a t d o e s t h a t d o ? I t ’s li k e c a n y o u m a k e t h a t w o r k ? C a n y o u t u r n y o u r s t o r e t h e o t h e r w a y ? A n d a g a i n h i s qu e s t i o n w a s , I d o n ’t k n o w . Y o u k n o w I k n o w w h a t I ’m g o i n g t o h a v e i n e x p e n s e j u s t m o v i ng t h e do o r t h e r e . I m e a n I h a v e n ’t w o r k e d i t o u t t o a d e t a il b eca u s e I j u s t go t t h i s o n l y a f e w d a y s a g o . K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l y o u w e r e n ’t p l a nn i ng o n m o v i ng t h e r e s t r o o m s a n y w a y s s o I’m n o t s u r e w h a t . M a r k L e u t e m : N o t n ece s s a r i l y , n o . K a t e A a n e n s o n : R i g h t . S o i f t h e do o r f i t s t h e r e , I ’m n o t s u r e w h a t t h e i s s u e w a s . M a r k L e u t e m : W e l l i f y o u s t a n d t h e r e a n d l oo k a t i t , i f y o u l oo k t h r o ug h t h e w i n d o w a n d s a y w i l l y o u c u t d o w n t h r o ug h t h e r e s t o f t h e b r i c k a n d p u t t h e d o o r i n r i g h t t h e r e , l i t e r a l l y t h a t o u t e r e dg e o f t h e doo r w ill s w i n g , w i l l li n e up o n t h a t s i d e o f t h a t w a ll s o i t ’s j u s t , i t l oo k s k i n d o f t i g h t . I t d o e s n ’t l oo k o p e n a n d i nv i t i ng a n d w h e r e a s w h e n i f y o u w a l k i n t h e f r o n t t h e r e , a n d i f y o u w a n t p e o p l e t o w a l k i n t h e do o r l i k e t h i s a n d w a l k up t o t h e i r c o u n t e r . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h , t h a t ’s h o w J im m y J o hn's i s t o o . Y o u ’r e c o mi ng t o w a r d s t h e r e s t r o o m s o n t h a t b ac k s i d e t oo . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t w h a t I’m h ea r i ng i s t h e n o r t h e n t r a n ce i s p e r f ec t l y f i n e a s a s ec o n d a r y s i d e . M a r k L e u t e m : I f w e ca n h a v e i t a s a s ec o n d a r y e n t r a n ce . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d i t m ee t s t h e g o a l o f p r o v i d i n g t h a t e n t r a n ce s o t h a t s o m e b od y p a r k i n g o n t h a t n o r t h p a r k i n g s p a ce s d o n ’t h a v e t o w a l k a r o u n d , w h i c h i s y o u r g o a l . I t h i n k i s t h e r e , a n d i f t h e r e ’s s o m e w a y , t h r o ug h s i g n s o r s o m e t h i ng t o l e a v e a w a l k w a y i n t h e d r i v e t h r u a r ea s o p e o p l e p a r k i n g o n t h e w e s t s i d e c a n w a l k ac r o ss a n d n o t h a v e t o w a l k y o u k n o w b e t w e e n t w o f ee t o f b u m p e r b u t i f t h e r e ’s a . M a r k L e u t e m : W e l l t h e o t h e r p a r t t oo , i f y o u l oo k a t t h e d r i v e t h r u t o o . T h e o r d e r b o x i s g o i n g t o b e r i g h t b e f o r e t h e s i d e w a l k s o e v e r yb od y c o m i n g t h r o ug h t h e r e i s g o i n g t o s t o p . M a y o r F u r l o n g : R i g h t . M a r k L e u t e m : Y o u k n o w s o t h e r e ’d b e , a n d t h e n y e a h w e h a v e s o m e g r e e n t h a t w e h a v e t o p u t i n t h e r e b u t I t h i n k o bv i o u s l y pu t i n t h e r e s o p e o p l e ca n ce r t a i n l y s ee i f s o m e o n e ’s w a l k i ng up . W e c a n ’t p u t a r b o r v i t ae s r i g h t up t o t h e e dg e t h e r e a n d a ca r ’s b l i nd e d b y s o m e o n e c o mi ng t h r o ug h . B u t y o u k n o w t h a t w a y w e ’d e s s e n t i a ll y y o u k n o w , a n d o n ce y o u g e t t h e a d d i t i o n a l s i g n a g e , t h i n g s li k e t h a t , y o u k n o w s t o p f o r p e d e s t r i a n s a n d s t u f f . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d I gu e ss t h a t ’s m y t h o ug h t a nd I’m gu e s s i ng M s . A a n e n s o n t h a t w a s p a r t o f t h e s t a ff ’s c o n ce r n w a s t h a t p e d e s t r i a n s c r o s s i n g t h e d r i v e t h r u . 35 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 16 K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A s w e ll , b u t t o y o u r p o i n t s i r , s i n ce t h e o r d e r b o a r d s a r e n o r t h o f t h a t , t h e r e ’s a n ac t i o n s t o pp i n g t h e r e . M a r k L e u t e m : R i g h t , y e a h . A n d y o u k n o w t h e c u rr e n t e n t r y w a y , n o w a g a i n y o u s t a n d o n t h a t w e s t s i d e , I m e a n w e h a v e t h a t b i g a r c h i n t h e f r o n t . I m e a n t h a t l oo k s l i k e t h e o b v i o u s e n t r a n ce t o t h e p l ace a n d m y c o n c e r n i s w e l l i f y o u l e f t t h a t , a n d p e o p l e a r e g o i n g t o c o m p e l l e d t o g o u p t h e r e a n d f i nd o u t i t ’s j u s t g l a s s . Y o u k n o w w h e r e ’s t h e do o r a n d I t h i n k t h e r e ’s , b u t i f y e a h , i f w e ca n s a y l oo k . L e t ’s j u s t o p e n up a n acce s s i n t h e r e t h a t g o e s o u t t o t h e p a t i o a n y w a y , t h a t k i n d o f ac t u a l l y m a k e s s e n s e t o m e b e ca u s e i t ’d b e ea s i e r f o r s o m e o n e t o w a l k o n t h e i n s i d e r i g h t o u t t o t h e p a t i o a r ea i n s t ea d o f h a v e t o g o o u t s i d e a n d w a l k a r o u n d t o i t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W e l l a n d I t h i n k y o u c a n e v a l u a t e t h e c o s t t oo o f t h e p a t i o a n d t h e o r i g i n a l p r o p o s a l ce r t a i n l y h a s m o r e s i d e w a l k a n d c e m e n t a ss o c i a t e d w i t h i t t h a n w h e n s t a ff ’s , w h e r e y o u h a v e t h a t s ec o n d a r y acc e ss t h e r e . T h a t m a y b e s o m e t h i ng y o u w a n t t o l oo k a t f r o m a c o s t s t a n dp o i n t a s w e ll , b u t w a s t h e r e a n o t h e r r ea s o n t h a t s t a f f w a n t e d t h a t p a t i o m o v e d t o t h e ea s t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t h i n k i t ’s j u s t m o r e e n j o y a b l e n o t t o b e s i tt i n g n e x t t o a n i d l i ng ca r . T o k i n d o f m o v e i t t o w a r d s t h e ce n t e r o f t h e b u il d i ng . A n d m a yb e s o m e b od y e l s e t h a t r u n s i n t o t h e g a s s t a t i o n s i d e t o g e t s o m e t h i ng t h e r e ca n a l s o s i t a n d u s e t h a t s o i t ’s j u s t , y o u ’r e n o t r i g h t n e x t t o t h e ca r s . B u t ce r t a i n l y y o u c a n m i t i g a t e t h a t w i t h s o m e l a n d s ca p i ng a n d t h i n g s t o o . M a r k L e u t e m : C o rr e c t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A l r i g h t . M a r k L e u t e m : Y e a h , I g o t a l o t o f t r ee s i n t h e r e don ’t I . I h a v e n ’t a ss e s s e d t h a t o n e a t a ll . I ’d b e tt e r s t a r t p l a n t i n g s ee d s n o w . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : I t h i n k o n e o f t h e o t h e r b e n e f i t s o f h a v i ng t h a t g r ee n i s l a n d t h e r e t oo , a l o n g t h e d r i v e t h r u , i s t h a t t h e p e d e s t r i a n s d o h a v e a s p o t t o s t o p . T h e y ’r e n o t i n t h e r o a d w a y . T h e y ’r e n o t y e t c r o s s i n g a n d t h e y h a v e k i nd o f a s po t t h e r e t h a t t h e y c a n , s o I t h i n k t h a t h e l p s s o m e . G o i n g i n t h a t m a i n e n t r a n ce . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T a l k i n g a l i t t l e b i t l a n d s ca p i ng . C a n y o u t a l k a l i t t l e b i t a b o u t w h a t y o u ’r e r e qu e s t i n g t h e r e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I’m n o t s u r e w e p u t a l o t o f d e t a i l i n t h e r e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : P a g e 9 o f 11 , a n d w e ll t h a t ’s p a r t o f m y qu e s t i o n . W e j u s t s a y a dd l a n d s ca p i ng w i t h i n t h e p r o p o s e d i s l a n d . I’m n o t s u r e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h , I t h i n k w e s h o w e d a n a t t e m p t t o p u t s o m e t h i n g i n t h e r e b u t t h a t ’s s o m e t h i n g w e w ou l d t h e m . T y p i c a ll y w e s ee l o w s h r u b s . Y o u d o n ’t w a n t s o m e t h i ng h i g h b e c a u s e t h e o p e r a t i o n s o n b o t h s i d e c a n s e e . T h e ca r s a n d ca r s c a n s ee t h e , w h e r e t h e w i n d o w i s 36 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 17 a n d t h a t s o r t o f t h i n g b u t ce r t a i n l y j u s t s o m e t h i ng b e s i d e s j u s t r o c k s . A n d a g a i n t h a t h e l p s w i t h ca r b o n m o n o x i d e a n d s o m e o f t h e n o i s e m i t i g a t i o n t o o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , a n d t h e n t h e r e w a s d i s c u ss i o n b e f o r e i n t h e l a n d s c a p i n g s o u t h o f t h e p r o p e r t y a l o n g H i g h w a y 5 . A n d t h e r e w a s s o m e t a l k o r i g i n a ll y , t h e l a s t t im e w e s a w t h i s a b o u t b e r m s a n d s u c h . A r e w e , w e ’r e n o t d o i n g a n y t h i n g t h a t ’s g o i n g t o b l o c k t h e b u i l d i ng a r e w e? K a t e A a n e n s o n : N o . N o , b eca u s e t h i s , l e t m e g o b ac k . S o rr y . T h i s i s L o t 2 , B l o c k 1 . S o t h a t ’s a s e p a r a t e l e g a l i d e n t i t y . O n t h e o t h e r p a r ce l . Y o u ’r e t a l k i ng a b o u t t h i s p i ece t o t h e n o r t h ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : N o p e . I’m t a l k i ng a b o u t t h e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : O h , a l o n g H i g h w a y 5 . M a y o r F u r l o n g : E x ac t l y . R i g h t w h e r e y o u r m o u s e i s n o w . K a t e A a n e n s o n : N o , a c t u a l l y w e a dd r e ss e d t h a t p r e v i ou s w i t h t h e p r e v i o u s a p p l i ca t i o n . M a y o r y o u m a y r e m e m b e r w h e n w e d i d t h e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h e s i g n . K a t e A a n e n s o n : E l ec t r o n i c s i g n , y e s . T h e r e w a s l a n d s ca p i ng . A c t u a l l y t h e s i g n s a r e up r ece n t l y b u t t h a t w a s a dd r e ss e d w i t h t h a t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . K a t e A a n e n s o n : S o m e l a n d s ca p i ng , r i g h t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t t h e k e y h e r e i s t h e r e w i l l b e g o o d v i s i b i l i t y o f t h i s b u il d i ng a n d t h e b u s i n e s s e s t h a t a r e f r o m H i g h w a y 5 . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A r e y o u c o m f o r t a b l e w i t h t h e l a nd s ca p i ng r e q u i r e m e n t s s i r ? M a r k L e u t e m : Y e a h . W e ll i t ’s a , y o u k n o w i t ’s a p i c t u r e f r o m t h e t o p h e r e . Y o u k n o w I gu e ss w e ’l l h a v e t o d e v e l o p i t f u r t h e r t o s ee w h a t i t ’s g o i n g t o l oo k li k e f r o m t h e u s e r ’s p e r s p e c t i v e b u t y o u k n o w h e d r e w a l o t o f t h e s e a r b o r v i t a e s a l o n g h e r e j u s t t o k i n d o f , y o u k n o w t i g h t i n t h e r e a n d I t h i n k y o u k n o w w e h a v e t o k i n d o f v i s i t . T h e r e ’s a l o t o f , w e ’v e g o t s o m e s p r u ce a n d t h i n g s a l o n g t h e r e r i g h t n o w a n d m a y b e t o k i n d o f s t a y c o n s i s t e n t w i t h t h e d i r ec t i o n t h a t t h e b e r m ’s b e e n d e v e l o p e d i n i t i a ll y y o u k n o w . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h , a n d a l s o b eca u s e w e j u s t p u t t h e s i g n up b u t w e ca n r e v i s i t t h a t t o o j u s t t o m a k e s u r e w e ’r e n o t p u t t i n g t h e m t oo t i g h t i n t h e r e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T oo t i g h t o r t o o v e r t i ca l s o … 37 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 18 K a t e A a n e n s o n : R i g h t . W e ll w e k n o w w h e n w e pu t t h e m t oo c l o s e t o g e t h e r , w h e n w e pu t t h e m t oo c l o s e t o g e t h e r t h e y c a n k i l l ea c h o t h e r t oo s o w e ’l l r e v i s i t t h a t o n e j u s t t o s ee w h a t t h e s p a c i ng i s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A l r i g h t . A n y o t h e r qu e s t i o n s f o r s t a f f a t t h i s p o i n t o r f o r t h e a pp li ca n t ? I s h ou l d s a y a s w e ll . N o ? O k a y . T h a n k y o u . M a r k L e u t e m : A l r i g h t , n o t t o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : D i d y o u h a v e o t h e r c o mm e n t s p l e a s e ? M a r k L e u t e m : W e l l j u s t o n e o t h e r o n e . N o t t o b i a s y o u r v o t e o r a n y t h i ng b u t i t i s m y b i r t h d a y t o d a y s o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : H a p p y b i r t h d a y . D o y o u w a n t t o m a k e s o m e c o mm e n t s , w e ’l l ce r t a i n l y o p e n up t o pub li c c o mm e n t s a t t h i s t im e . L y nn e E t li n g : Y e a h , t h a n k y o u . G o o d e v e n i ng M a y o r a n d c o u n c il m e m b e r s . M y n a m e i s L y nn e E t li ng . I li v e a t 768 1 C e n t u r y B ou l e v a r d i n C h a nh a ss e n a n d t o n i g h t I’m n o t k n o c k i n g d o w n t h e b o a r d a t l e a s t . B u t o b v i o u s l y I h a v e c o n ce r n s a b o u t t h i s p r o j ec t . I h a v e f r o m t h e b e g i n n i ng . I s t i l l t h i n k t h a t t h e y ’r e t r y i ng t o f i t a s qu a r e p e g i n a r o u n d h o l e . Y o u k n o w t h e y m a d e a l o t o f c h a n g e s a n d y o u k n o w h o p e f u ll y t h e y ’r e f o r t h e go o d . H o w e v e r I d o h a v e a f e w o t h e r c o n ce r n s t h a t I ’d li k e t o a s k . I n r e g a r d s t o t h e s p ea k e r s f o r t h e c a l l b o x . Y o u k n o w p l e a s e f o r g i v e m e , I’m n o t s u r e h o w a l l t h i s w o r k s b u t y o u k n o w w h o o n t h e C h a n h a ss e n s t a f f w ou l d b e r e s p o n s i b l e f o r t h e m o n i t o r i n g a n d t h e e n f o r c e m e n t o f t h o s e s p ea k e r s t o m a k e s u r e t h e y a r e n ’t a ud i b l e f r o m t h e p r o p e r t y l i n e ? Y o u k n o w s o t h a t w e ca n n o t h ea r t h e m w h e n w e ’r e s i t t i n g o u t s i d e o n o u r p a t i o s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I’ll d e f e r t o s t a f f o n t h a t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : P l a nn i n g s t a f f w ou l d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : P l a nn i n g ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . L y nn e E t li n g : T h e p l a nn i n g w ou l d ? O k a y . H o w w o u l d t h e y m o n i t o r t h a t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : T y p i c a ll y w h a t w e m o n i t o r n o i s e b y , i t ’s a d o s im e t e r . I t h a s t o b e f r e qu e n c y a n d du r a t i o n o f n o i s e s o t h a t ’s t y p i ca l l y h o w w e m ea s u r e n o i s e . A n d s o . L y nn e E t li n g : A l r i g h t , b eca u s e y o u k n o w o b v i o u s l y t h a t ’s g o i n g t o b e a c o n ce r n t o a l o t o f p e o p l e t h a t a r e li v i ng t h e r e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h . W e d o h a v e t h e e x p e r i e n c e w i t h f a s t f oo d i n , a d j ac e n t t o o t h e r n e i g h b o r h oo d s. F o r e x a m p l e M c D o n a l d ’s i s v e r y c l o s e t o t h a t n e i g h b o r h oo d a n d t h e y h a v e a 38 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 19 du a l d r i v e w a y s o w e d o h a v e p r e t t y go o d e x p e r i e n ce o f h o w t o m a n a g e t h o s e a n d c a n w o r k w i t h t h e o w n e r s o f t h a t o p e r a t i o n . L y nn e E t li n g : O k a y . A l r i g h t . A n d f o r t h e l a n d s c a p i n g , y o u k n o w t h e r e r ea l l y i s n ’t a l o t o f s p e c i f i c s o n i t . I k n o w y o u ’r e w a i t i n g f o r t h e f i n a l l a n d s ca p i ng t o c o m e i n b u t y o u k n o w t h e s a m e t h i n g . W h o a c t u a l l y m a k e s s u r e o n t h e c i t y s t a f f t h a t y o u k n o w t h a t t h e f i n i s h e d l a n d s ca p i ng i s a d e qu a t e a n d y o u k n o w w h o w o u l d go t h r o ug h a n d li k e w ou l d t h e r e b e a l a n d s ca p i ng b o n d o r a l e t t e r o f c r e d i t t o gu a r a n t ee i f s o m e t h i n g s h ou l d , y o u k n o w w h a t ’s t h e r e r e m a i n s t h e r e a n d i f i t d i e s , i f i t ’s g o i n g t o b e r e p l a ce d a n d ? Y o u k n o w o b v i ou s l y I j u s t w a n t t o m a k e s u r e t h a t t h e r e ’s a d e qu a t e y o u k n o w . K a t e A a n e n s o n : W ou l d y o u l i k e m e t o r e s p o n d t o t h a t ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : P l e a s e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : B e f o r e a p e r m i t c o u l d b e i s s u e d , a b u il d i ng p e r m i t , a ll t h e f i n a l d r a w i n g s w o u l d h a v e t o b e s ub m i tt e d a n d t h e y ’d b e r e v i e w e d b y t h e a pp r o p r i a t e d e p a r t m e n t s . E n g i n ee r i ng w o u l d r e v i e w i t t o m a k e s u r e i t m ee t s t h e d e s i g n s a s t h e y ’v e s h o w n . P l a nn i n g w ou l d r e v i e w i t . T h e C i t y F o r e s t e r w o u l d r e v i e w i t . I f t h e r e i s l a n d s ca p i n g r e q u i r e d , w e t y p i c a ll y h a v e t h e m p o s t a b o n d f o r l a n d s ca p i ng . S o a l l o f t h a t w o u l d b e d o n e p r i o r t o t h e i s s u a n ce o f b u i l d i ng p e r m i t . L y nn e E t li n g : A n d I’m s u r e y o u r c i t y c o d e w o u l d s a y h o w t a l l a n d h o w w i d e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e p , t h e r e ’s s p e c i f i ca t i o n s f o r a l l t h a t . T h a t ’s c o r r e c t . L y nn e E t li n g : Y e a h . A n d t h e n a l s o i f s o m e t h i ng d i e s , t h a t i t w o u l d b e r e p l a ce d , r i g h t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e p , t h e r e ’s a w a rr a n t y o n t h a t , t h a t ’s c o rr e c t . L y nn e E t li n g : O k a y . A n d t h e n y o u s a i d t h a t y o u ’r e g o i n g t o h a v e t h e n o U t u r n s i g n pu t i n ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . I d i d s p ea k t o t h e C i t y E n g i n ee r a b o u t t h a t s o . L y nn e E t li n g : O k a y . B eca u s e t h e r e i s n o U t u r n s i g n . A c t u a l l y t h e s i g n , t h e o n e w a y s i g n i s ac t u a l l y d o w n r i g h t n o w . S o m e b od y h i t i t . D u e t o o u r l o v e l y s n o w b u t y o u k n o w o b v i o u s l y t h e t r a ff i c f l o w i s a c o n ce r n f o r m e b eca u s e o f t h e w a y t h a t t h e y ’r e g o i n g t o h a v e p e op l e c u t t i n g t h r o ug h t h e d r i v e t h r u l a n e s o y o u k n o w I j u s t t h i nk i t ’s k i nd o f a s a f e t y h a z a r d b u t t h a t ’s a l l I r e a l l y w a n t e d . J u s t t r y t o m a k e i t a w i n /w i n f o r e v e r y o n e i n t h e a r ea . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W e l l t h a n k y o u . A pp r e c i a t e y o u r t h o ug h t s. L y nn e E t li n g : D o y o u h a v e a n y qu e s t i o n s o f m e ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : N o t a t t h i s t im e ? L y nn e E t li n g : O k a y . T h a n k y o u . 39 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 20 C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : Y o u k n o w j u s t r e a l q u i c k l y . B e f o r e y o u s h o w e d u s . W h e r e i s y o u r r e s i d e n ce i n c o n j u n c t i o n ? L y nn e E t li n g : M i n e i s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t h i n k i t ’s o f f t h e s c r e e n . L y nn e E t li n g : N o t t h e f i r s t un i t b u t t h e s ec o n d , y e a h . O n t h e r i g h t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t ’s j u s t o f f t h e s c r e e n , y e a h . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : O k a y . L y nn e E t li n g : Y e a h , j u s t o f f t h e s c r e e n . A n d ac t u a l l y t h e , a f e w o f m y n e i g h b o r s w a n t e d t o b e h e r e t o n i g h t . O n e o f t h e m i s i n C h i n a . T h e o t h e r t w o I t h i n k t h a t t h e y ’r e j u s t h u n g up w i t h t h e s n o w b u t t h e r e a r e s e v e r a l p e o p l e i n t h e n e i g h b o r ho o d t h a t a r e c o n ce r n e d a b o u t t h i s a n d t h e t r a ff i c f l o w t h a t i t w o u l d b r i n g b e c a u s e t h i s i s b r i ng i n g i n , i t ’s n o t , y o u k n o w I d o n ’t u n d e r s t a n d w h e n y o u ’r e s a y i ng t h a t y o u ca n m a k e t h i s s p e c i f i c j u s t t o t h i s d e v e l op m e n t b eca u s e w h e n y o u a m e n d a P UD , P UD a g r ee m e n t , i s n ’t t h a t f o r t h e w h o l e c i t y o f C h a n h a s s e n a n d w o u l d o p e n t h e w a y f o r a d r i v e t h r u ’s f o r e v e r y o n e ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : N o , t h a t ’s a f a i r l y . K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e d i d h a v e a , y e a h w e d i d h a v e a d i s c u s s i o n r e g a r d i n g t h a t . H o w a P UD , w h i l e t h e u n d e r l y i ng z o n i n g d i s t r i c t d o e s n ’t a l l o w i t , a P UD ca n b e a m e n d e d t o s p e c i f i c . S i t e s p e c i f i c f o r t h i s o n e s o i t w o u l d o n l y a p p l y a t t h i s l o c a t i o n . F o r t h e d r i v e t h r u i n a n e i g h b o r h o o d b u s i n e ss . L y nn e E t li n g : I s t h a t , a n d t h a t i s s o m e t h i ng e n f o r cea b l e ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . Y e s . Y ea h , w e h a v e o t h e r P UD ’s t h a t y o u k n o w i t m a y b e a s h o r t e r li s t o f u s e s t h a t w o u l d b e acce p t a b l e i n t h a t d i s t r i c t b u t m a yb e n o t i n a s i m i l a r l o ca t i o n . Y e s. L y nn e E t li n g : E v e n t h o ug h t h i s w i l l k i nd o f g i v e t h e m t h e c o m p e t i t i v e a d v a n t a g e t o o t h e r a r ea s ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l f o r e x a m p l e a s w e m e n t i o n e d , M c D o n a l d ’s i s i n a n e i g h b o r h oo d b u s i n e s s d i s t r i c t . A t t h a t t im e i t w a s p e r m i tt e d f o r d r i v e t h r u ’s a n d t h a t ’s a p r e t t y h i g h t r a ff i c a r ea r i g h t a d j a ce n t t o a n e i g h b o r h oo d d i s t r i c t . A s a m a tt e r o f f a c t t h a t P a r k N i c o ll e t ’s i n a n e i g h b o r h oo d b u s i n e ss d i s t r i c t a n d t h e n e i g h b o r s w a n t e d a v a r i a n ce t o g o t w o s t o r i e s a n d t h a t ’s a un i qu e P UD t h a t w e p u t t o g e t h e r t h e r e t o o s o eac h c i r c u m s t a n c e i s u n i q u e . A n d t h e c o u n c il w e i g h s t h o s e c i r c u m s t a n ce s t o d ec i d e w h e t h e r o r n o t i t m e r i t s i t s o t h e y h a v e t h a t l e g i s l a t i v e a u t h o r i t y t o a m e n d t h a t a n d m a k e i t s p e c i f i c t o t h i s o n e . T o t h i s u s e . T h i s l o ca t i o n . L y nn e E t li n g : R i g h t . I ’m j u s t c o n ce r n e d t h a t i t w o u l d y o u k n o w p e o p l e li k e S ub w a y o r t h e o n e s t h a t a r e p r e v i o u s l y a l o n g t h e c o r r i d o r w o u l d c o m e b ac k a n d w a n t t h a t . 40 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 21 K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h , S u b w a y h a d c o m e i n b e f o r e . T h e y ’r e i n t h e mi d d l e o f a s t r i p c e n t e r . I t d i d n o t h a v e t h e s a m e c i r c u l a t i o n a n d i t j u s t d i d n ’t w o r k . L y nn e E t li n g : Y e a h . K a t e A a n e n s o n : S o a g a i n y o u h a v e t o l oo k a t t h e d e s i g n a n d r e a l l y e n g i n ee r i ng h a s a l o t t o d o w i t h t h a t , i f y o u c a n m a k e t h e c i r c u l a t i o n w o r k a n d t h o s e a r e s o m e o f t h e f ac t o r s t h a t t h e y d i d a dd r e ss . L y nn e E t li n g : R i g h t , a n d p l e a s e f o r g i v e m e . I’m t r y i ng t o , I ’v e r ea d t h r o ug h a ll t h e d o c u m e n t s f r o m 2003 a n d t r y i ng t o e du ca t e m y s e l f o n t h i s a n d t h e p r o ce ss a n d j u s t r ea l l y w a n t t o m a k e s u r e t h a t i t ’s a w i n /w i n f o r e v e r y o n e . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : A b s o l u t e l y . L y nn e E t li n g : A n d o bv i o u s l y I li v e p r e t t y c l o s e . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : B u t a r e t h e c o n ce r n s y o u b r o ug h t up s i mi l a r t o w h a t y o u r n e i g h b o r s w o u l d h a v e b r o ug h t u p t o o , s o w e ’r e k i n d o f g e tt i n g a ll t h e c o n ce r n s t h r o ug h y o u a t l e a s t ? L y nn e E t li n g : Y e a h . A n d o t h e r s t h a t a r e n o t r e l e v a n t li k e w e d o n ’t n ee d a n o t h e r s u b s h o p w h e n w e ’v e a l r ea d y g o t t w o . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : O k a y . L y nn e E t li n g : T h i ng s li k e t h a t . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : S o y o u k i n d o f f i l t e r e d t h o s e . L y nn e E t li n g : R i g h t . B u t t h e y ’r e m o s t l y c o n ce r n e d a b o u t t h e t r a f f i c a n d t h e U t u r n a n d t h i n g s l i k e t h a t , a n d w a l k i ng i n t o t h e b u il d i ng . T h a t w e d o n ’t l o s e t h e e n t r a n ce . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : W e l l t h a n k s f o r b r i n g i ng i t u p a s a s p o k e s p e r s o n . L y nn e E t li n g : O k a y . T h a n k y o u . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . I s t h e r e a n y o n e e l s e w h o w o u l d li k e t o p r o v i d e pub l i c c o mm e n t o n t h i s ? A n y f o l l o w up qu e s t i o n s t h a t t h e c o u n c il o f s t a f f o r t h e a p p li c a n t ? N o ? O k a y . W h y d o n ’t w e j u s t b r i n g i t t o c o u n c il t h e n f o r d i s c u ss i o n a n d t r y t o m o v e t h i s f o r w a r d . T h o ug h t s o r c o mm e n t s . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y , w a n t t o s t a r t ? C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : W e l l I t h i n k t o b e s e n s i t i v e t o t h e c o n ce r n s t h a t w e r e r a i s e d , t h a t w e f o l l o w t h r o ug h w i t h t h o s e a n d m a k e s u r e w e m o n i t o r . I kn o w t h a t n o i s e ca n b e a n i ss u e w h e n y o u h a v e a n o u t d oo r s p ea k e r , a n d y o u k n o w d e p e n d i n g o n c o n d i t i o n s a t t h e t im e , s o u n d ca n t r a v e l d i ff e r e n t l y . S o t h a t w e ’r e d i l i g e n t w i t h t h a t . I t h i nk t h e c o m p r o mi s e k i nd o f w o r k e d o u t h e r e 41 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 22 t o n i g h t i n t e r m s o f e n t r a n c e s m a k e s s e n s e . I t h i n k t h a t w i l l h e l p a n d s o c o n ce p t u a l l y i t ’s a n o k a y p r o j ec t t o m o v e a h ea d w i t h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . O t h e r t h o ug h t s, C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : W e l l t h e s e a r e t h e t y p e s o f p r o j ec t s I li k e c o mi ng b e f o r e c o u n c il b eca u s e e v e r y o n e i s c o mi n g t o g e t h e r a n d e x p r e ss i ng t h e i r c o n ce r n s a n d f i n d i ng s o l u t i o n s t o t h o s e c o n ce r n s w i t h s t a f f . F o r e x a m p l e a d d i ng t h e s i d e d o o r . T h e l a n d s ca p i ng i ss u e . T h e n o i s e i ss u e . T h e t r a ff i c f l o w i s s u e a n d i t s o u n d s li k e w e f o u n d s o m e t h i n g s t o a dd r e ss eac h o n e o f t h o s e . S t a f f w o r k i n g w i t h t h e r e s i d e n t s a s w e ll a s t h e o w n e r a n d s o I t h i n k t h a t ’s g r ea t a n d I t h i n k i t ’s g o i n g t o b e a g r e a t p r o j ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . O t h e r t h o ug h t s, c o mm e n t s , C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r nh o m . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : Y ea h . I t h i n k o n e o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t s o l d m e o n t h i s , e v e n w h e n w e j u s t r e v i e w e d i t l a s t t i m e w a s , w h a t M a y o r F u r l o n g s a i d t h a t w e a r e a l s o m e m b e r s o f t h e E D A a n d i t ’s p a r t o f t h a t I t h i n k r e s p o n s i b il i t y t o a ss u r e t h a t o u r b u s i n e ss e s d o w e l l h e r e . O r w e t r y t o h e l p t h e m d o w h a t w e ca n f o r t h e m , e s p e c i a l l y t h i s ec o n o mi c c l i m a t e a n d s o I’m a ll i n f a v o r o f d o i n g w h a t e v e r I ca n d o f o r t h i s d e v e l op m e n t a n d t h e o w n e r s o f i t t o e n s u r e s u cc e ss . S o w e d o h a v e b u s i n e ss e s a n d p l a c e s f o r p e o p l e t o g o i n t o w n , y o u k n o w t h a t ’s w h a t i t ’s g o i n g t o t a k e t o g e t t h i s ec o n o m y g o i n g a n d k ee p i t g o i n g s o t h a n k y o u f o r M i l o ’s a n d e v e r y o n e e l s e f o r i nv e s t i n g i n C h a n h a ss e n a n d I h o p e , I w i s h y o u t h e b e s t o f l u c k . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : G eez . W e l l , y e a h t h i s i s ec o n o mi c d e v e l op m e n t a n d I’m g l a d t o s ee t h a t m a y b e w e ’v e g o t a u s e f o r t h i s p a r t i c u l a r a r ea t h a t w i l l w o r k , b u t y o u k n o w I s t i l l h a v e a c o up l e c o n ce r n s a n d I’m g l a d y o u a t l e a s t w o r k e d w i t h s t a f f a n d w o r k e d t h r o ug h t h e m . Y o u k n o w m y b i gg e s t t h i n g i s p e op l e c r o s s i n g i n f r o n t o f t h e d r i v e t h r u . I ’v e b e e n s i t t i n g h e r e t r y i ng t o t h i n k o f r e s t a u r a n t s w h e r e t h a t h a pp e n s a n d i f t h e y ’r e s u cc e s s f u l o r n o t a n d I ca n t h i n k o f t h e W e n d y ’s up a t 7 -H i a n d n o o n e u s e s t h a t e n t r a n ce o f a n y t h i ng s o I j u s t y o u k n o w w o u l d p a ss a l o n g , I h o p e y o u w o u l d c o n s i d e r s o m e t h i ng e l s e t h e r e t o k ee p s o m e s p a ce b e t w e e n ca r s a n d p e o p l e b eca u s e I j u s t d o n ’t h a v e a l o t o f c o n f i d e n c e a s f a r a s ca r s a n d p e op l e c r o s s i n g . I’m o k a y w i t h t h a t b e i n g t h e m a i n e n t r a n ce . T h e r e i s n o o t h e r w a y a n d a g a i n i n o r d e r f o r i t t o b e a s u cce ss f u l b u s i n e ss a n d e v e r y t h i ng I t h i n k w e h a v e t o g o w i t h t h a t s o I ’m g l a d y o u c o m p r o mi s e d o n t h e n o r t h e n t r a n ce a n d s o b eca u s e o f t h a t , y ea h I ’d b e w i ll i ng t o l oo k a t t h a t a s j u s t a s ec o n d a r y e n t r a n ce b u t m y , y o u k n o w m y c o n ce r n f o r t h e c r o s s i n g j u s t d o e s n ’t go a w a y . I w o u l d w a n t y o u t o d o s o m e t h i n g t h e r e a l s o b eca u s e I w o u l d h a t e t o s ee s o m e o n e y o u k n o w g e t h u r t o r a n y t h i ng b u t b e y o n d t h a t I t h i n k t h a t I a pp r ec i a t e y o u l oo k i n g t o t r y t o f i n d a w a y t o m a k e t h i s w o r k s o h o p e f u ll y t o g e t h e r w e ca n y o u k n o w g e t s o m e t h i ng t h a t w i l l b e g oo d f o r t h e c i t y . T h a n k y o u . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . I w o u l d a g r ee w i t h a v a r i e t y o f c o mm e n t s m e n t i o n e d h e r e t o n i g h t . F r o m a n ec o n o mi c d e v e l op m e n t s t a n dp o i n t . I t h i nk t h a t ’s o n e o f t h e m o t i v a t i n g f a c t o r s t h a t w e h ea r d l a s t t im e t h a t w e d i d n ’t h ea r a s m u c h t h i s e v e n i ng . I s t h e n ee d t o t r y t o im p r o v e t h e o p p o r t u n i t y f o r b u s i n e ss e s t o b e s u cce s s f u l a t t h i s l o c a t i o n . A n d w h i l e t h a t m a y b r i n g a d d i t i o n a l 42 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 23 t r a ff i c , w h i c h w e u n d e r s t a n d i s a c o n ce r n t o t h e n e i gh b o r s , a n d I a l s o a pp r e c i a t e t h a t b e i n g p a r t o f t h e d i s c u s s i o n a n d I t h i n k t h e d e s i g n h e r e i s t o t r y t o w o r k w i t h s o m e o f t h e m b y c r ea t i n g o n e w a y s w h e r e c u rr e n t l y t h e r e a r e t w o w a y s a n d t h r o u g h t h e s i t e a n d a s w e s a i d , w i l l p r o b a b l y m o v e s o m e o f t h e t r a f f i c f u r t h e r ea s t a n d t h e f u r t h e r ea s t i t g o e s , t h e m o r e l i k e l y i t ’s g o i n g t o c o m e a r o u n d o n W e s t 78 th r a t h e r t h a n b ac k o u t o n t o C e n t u r y a n d w i t h t h e U t u r n s . S o b o tt o m li n e I t h i n k w e ’v e m a d e s o m e g oo d p r o g r e ss h e r e a n d I’d li k e t o t h a n k t h e a p p li ca n t a n d t h e p r o p e r t y , a s f a r a s t h e b u s i n e ss o w n e r s a s w e l l a s s t a f f f o r w o r k i n g t o g e t h e r t o d o t h a t t o c o m e up w i t h c o m p r o mi s e s . I t h i n k w e , m y s e n s e h e r e i s w e a r e g o i n g t o g o f o r w a r d t h i s e v e n i ng . W e s h ou l d p r o b a b l y m od i f y s o m e o f t h o s e . K a t e I t h i n k u n d e r n u m b e r 4 . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h . I j u s t … M a y o r F u r l o n g : A r e y o u w o r k i n g o n t h a t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : R e l o ca t e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h , a r e y o u u n d e r t h e P UD ? J u s t y e a h , t h e a p p li c a n t s h a l l r e l o c a t e t h e p a t i o a n d a n e n t r a n ce i n t o s p ace a s s h o w n o n E x h i b i t A . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a t ’s c o o l . K a t e A a n e n s o n : J u s t t a k e o u t m a i n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A dd a s ec o n d a r y e n t r a n c e ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : O r , y e a h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I t ’s n o t a r e l o ca t i o n o f a n e n t r a n ce . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I j u s t l e f t , j u s t s c r a t c h t h e w o r d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h e a d d i t i o n o f a n e n t r a n ce , i s t h a t c o rr e c t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . T h a t ’s w h y I j u s t t o o k o ff t h e w o r d m a i n a n d j u s t s a y a dd a n d g a i n a d d i t i o n a l e n t r a n ce o r s o m e t h i ng . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W e s a w t h e r e l o ca t e w o r d t h e r e p r o cee d i n g . K a t e A a n e n s o n : O h , I’m s o rr y . Y o u ’r e r i g h t . T a k e r e l o ca t e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : S o l o ca t e t h e p a t i o a n d s ec o n d a r y e n t r a n ce a s b e i n g s h o w n . I gu e ss t h e qu e s t i o n i s , t h e r e w a s s t i l l s o m e d i s c u s s i o n a b o u t t h e l o ca t i o n o f t h e p a t i o . I u n d e r s t a n d s t a ff ’s t h o ug h t s a b o u t m o v i n g t h a t f u r t h e r ea s t . I a l s o h ea r t h e a pp li c a n t s a y i ng I d o n ’t w a n t , y o u k n o w y o u ’r e a v o i d i ng ca r s b u t t h e n I’m g o i n g o v e r … 43 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 24 K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e ’r e f l e x i b l e o n t h a t . T h e g o a l i s t o g e t a n o u t d o o r s p ace . I t h i n k o u r g o a l i s t o m a k e i t d e s i r a b l e … M a y o r F u r l o n g : W h i c h I t h i n k w o u l d ce r t a i n l y b e a go o d , a b s o l u t e l y . K a t e A a n e n s o n : …I t h i n k w e ca n w o r k i t o u t i n t e r n a ll y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d t h a t ’s w h a t I w o u l d s ugg e s t t h e r e . I s t h a t t h e s t a f f a n d a p p li c a n t w o r k o u t t h e l o ca t i o n . M a k e s u r e t h e r e ’s acc e ss t o t h a t p a t i o f r o m t h e s ec o n d a r y e n t r a n ce . T h e n o r t h e n t r a n ce . B u t a dd i n g i n t h a t n o r t h e n t r a n ce , i t s o un d s l i k e t h a t ca n b e d o n e a s w e ll s o . Y ea h , w e d o n ’t n ee d t o k ee p t a l k i ng a b o u t i t . I t h i n k i t ’s a go o d p r o j ec t . I t h i n k i t ’s a go o d e nh a n c e m e n t t o a n e x i s t i n g p r o j ec t a n d I t h i n k w e s h ou l d m o v e f o r w a r d o n i t w i t h t h o s e m od i f i ca t i o n s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : M a y o r i f I m a y , j u s t o n e m o r e o n t h e F i n d i n g s o f F ac t . W e t a l k e d a b o u t i t b r i e f l y a n d I t h i n k t h e c i t y a t t o r n e y h a d j u s t c h a n g e d , m a d e o n e l i t t l e t w ea k a n d i f w e c ou l d j u s t i n t h e F i n d i ng s o f F ac t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W h a t p a g e a r e y o u o n ? A l s o i n t h e P UD a m e n d m e n t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h , i t w a s a c t u a ll y i n t h e P U D a m e n d m e n t a n d j u s t t o p u t i n t h e r e , i n s t ea d o f s a y i ng f a s t f oo d , I t h i n k i t ’d b e p r o b a b l y b e tt e r j u s t t o p u t r e s t a u r a n t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : J u s t s t r i k e t h e w o r d s f a s t f oo d i n (h )? K a t e A a n e n s o n : A n d pu t r e s t a u r a n t . W o u l d t h a t b e a s p a r t o f y o u r r e c o mm e n d a t i o n ? Y e a h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I s t h a t c l e a r t o e v e r yb od y ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : W i t h t h e d r i v e t h r u w i n d o w , y e a h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . T h a t w o u l d b e o n t h e P UD a m e n d m e n t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . T h a t w o u l d b e n u m b e r , t h a t ’d b e (h ). M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d w a s t h e r e a c h a n g e o n t h e F i n d i ng s o f F ac t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . T h a t w o u l d b e o n (h ). I t w a s o n p a g e 5 o f 11 . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d a l s o f u r t h e r d o w n u n d e r t h e a m e n d m e n t . O n p a g e 10 . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . C o rr e c t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . S o t h e m o d i f i ca t i o n s w o u l d b e t o s t r i k e t h e w o r d s f a s t f oo d u n d e r (h ) u n d e r t h e P UD A m e n d m e n t . A n d a l s o t o m od i f y 4 u n d e r t h e c o n d i t i o n s f o r t h e s i t e p l a n 44 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 25 a m e n d m e n t . W h a t a r e y o u p r o p o s i n g t o s a y t h e r e ? T h e a pp li ca n t w i l l l o ca t e t h e p a t i o a n d s ec o n d a r y e n t r a n ce a s s h o w n ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O r n ea r t h e s p ace s h o w n . T h e y m a y w a n t t o m o d i f y i t f r o m s t a ff’s p r o p o s a l . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . A n d a g a i n j u s t t o r e f e r e n ce t h a t w e a r e s p ea k i n g s p ec i f i c a ll y t o L o t 2 , B l o c k 1 s o o n t h a t t o o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I s t h a t i d e n t i f i e d i n t h e s i t e p l a n a m e n d m e n t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I’m n o t s u r e i t i s b u t I t h i n k w e s h ou l d p r o b a b l y pu t t h a t i n t h e r e t o o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W h e r e w ou l d y o u l i k e t h a t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : J u s t t o b e c l ea r t h a t ’s f o r t h e d r i v e t h r u f a c i l i t y . T h a t ’s f o r L o t 2 , B l o c k 1 . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a t ’s i n t h e P UD a m e n d m e n t . I t d o e s s a y a l l o w d r i v e t h r u o n L o t 2 , B l o c k 1 . K a t e A a n e n s o n : O k a y , t h e n w e s h ou l d b e c o v e r e d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I s t h a t s u f f i c i e n t o r d o y o u n ee d i t f o r s i t e p l a n a s w e l l ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t h i n k t h a t ’s , y ea h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , s o w e c o v e r e d t h a t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : O k a y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : S o a r e w e c o m f o r t a b l e o n t h e a m e n d m e n t , c o n d i t i o n 4 f o r t h e s i t e p l a n ? H o w t h a t ’s g o i n g t o b e w o r d e d ? I s t h e c o u n c il c o m f o r t a b l e w i t h t h e i n t e n t i o n o f t h e w o r d i n g t h e r e ? C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : Y e s . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : S o u n d s g o o d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , t o l o ca t e a s ec o n d a r y e n t r a n ce o n t h a t , a n d p a t i o o n t h e n o r t h s i d e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . T h a t ’s c o rr e c t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d t h e l o ca t i o n a g r ee a b l e w i t h t h e s t a f f a n d a p p l i c a n t t o g e t h e r . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . M r . K n u t s o n , y o u ’r e o k a y w i t h t h o s e ? 45 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 26 R o g e r K n u t s o n : I ’m f i n e w i t h t h e m . M a y o r F u r l o n g : V e r y go o d . A n y t h i ng e l s e ? I f n o t , w o u l d s o m e b od y li k e t o p r o p o s e a m o t i o n ? C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : I’l l p r o p o s e t h e m o t i o n bu t t h e qu e s t i o n I h a v e i s f r o m w h a t I ’v e h ea r d t h e m o t i o n i t s e l f r e a ll y d o e s n ’t c h a n g e , a m I c o rr e c t ? B eca u s e e v e r y t h i ng w e ’r e t a l k i ng a b o u t i s r e a l l y w i t h i n t h e f i n d i ng s c o n d i t i o n s 1 t h r o ug h 3 o n p a g e 10 . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T o m ee t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : A s m od i f i e d i n t h e s t a f f . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h e m od i f i e d c o n d i t i o n s . T h e c o n d i t i o n s w i l l b e m od i f i e d b a s e d o n t h e s e d i s c u s s i o n s I b e li e v e , i s t h a t c o rr e c t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : O k a y . I’l l s ee i f I c a n g e t i t t h e n . O k a y I’ll m a k e t h e p r o p o s e d m o t i o n t h a t t h e C i t y C o u n c i l a pp r o v e s t h e P l a n n e d U n i t D e v e l op m e n t a m e n d m e n t f o r t h e A r b o r e t u m V i l l a g e (P UD 99 -02 ), P l a nn i ng C a s e #08 -22 , a m e n d i n g t h e d e s i g n s t a n d a r d s S ec t i o n b . P e r m i tt e d U s e s , t o a l l o w a d r i v e t h r u o n L o t 2 , B l o c k 1 o f t h e A r b o r e t u m S h o p p i n g C e n t e r w i t h s t a n d a r d s a s s h o w n o n p a g e 9 a n d 10 a n d a pp r o v e d a s a m e n d m e n t s t o t h e A r b o r e t u m S h o pp i n g C e n t e r s i t e p l a n p e r m i t 03 -06 , s ub j ec t t o t h e a m e n d e d c o n d i t i o n s 1 t h r o ug h 3 o n p a g e 10 . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I t ’d b e 1 t h r o ug h 4 . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : 1 t h r o ug h 4 o n p a g e 1 0 s til l . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d I b e l i e v e i t ’s p a g e 11 n o w . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : P a g e 11 . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I s t h a t s u f f i c i e n t Ms . A a n e n s o n ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e p . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A l r i g h t , t h a n k y o u . I s t h e r e a s ec o n d ? C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : S ec o n d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : M a d e a n d s ec o n d e d . A n y d i s c u ss i o n ? C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d m ov e d , C o un c i l w o m a n T j o r nh o m s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C i t y C o u n c i l a pp r ov e t h e P l a n n e d U n i t D e v e l o p m e n t a m e n d m e n t f or A r b o re t u m V i ll a ge (P U D 99 -02 ), 46 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 27 P l a nn i n g C a s e #0 8 -2 2 , a m e n d i n g t he d e s i g n s t a n d a r d s S ec t i o n b . P e r m i t t e d U s e s , t o a ll o w a d r i v e -t h r u o n L o t 2 , B l o c k 1 , A r b o r e t u m Sh o pp i n g C e n t e r , w i t h t h e f o ll o w i n g s t a n d a r d s : D r i v e -t h r u f ac i l i t i e s f o r a n y u s e s h a l l c o m p l y w i t h t h e f o l l o w i ng s t a n d a r d s : (a ) T h e y s h a l l n o t b e l o ca t e d a d j a ce n t t o a n y r e s i d e n t i a l l o t li n e s . (b ) T h e y s h a l l b e p r o v i d e d w i t h a s u i t a b l e v i s u a l s c r e e n f r o m a d j a c e n t p r o p e r t i e s . (c ) S t ac k i n g s h a l l b e p r o v i d e d w i t h i n a p p li ca b l e p a r k i n g l o t s e t b ac k s . (d ) S t ac k i n g s h a l l m e e t t h e f o l l o w i ng s t a n d a r d s : (1 ) F a s t F oo d R e s t a u r a n t : s i x ca r s p e r a i s l e . (2 ) B a n k s : t h r ee ca r s p e r a i s l e . (3 ) P h a r m a c y : t w o ca r s p e r a i s l e . (4 ) A l l o t h e r u s e s : t w o ca r s p e r a i s l e . (e ) T h e C i t y m a y r e q u i r e a v e h i c l e s t ac k i ng s t ud y t o d e t e r mi n e w h e t h e r m o r e o r l e ss s t ac k i n g s h a ll b e r e q u i r e d f o r a p a r t i c u l a r u s e . (f ) S t ac k i n g a r ea s s h a l l n o t i n t e r f e r e w i t h v e h i c u l a r c i r c u l a t i o n i n t h e p a r k i n g l o t n o r e n c r o ac h i n t o a n y r e q u i r e d d r i v e a i s l e s . (g ) S p ea k e r o r i n t e r c o m s y s t e m s h a l l n o t b e a u d i b l e a t t h e p r o p e r t y li n e . (h ) A R e s t a u r a n t w i t h a d r i v e -t h r u m a y n o t e x cee d 1 ,550 s qu a r e f ee t i n a r ea .” A l l vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a rr i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a v o t e o f 5 t o 0 . C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d m ov e d , C o un c i l w o m a n T j o r nh o m s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C i t y C o u n c i l a pp r ove t h e s i t e p l a n a m e n d m e n t f or A r b o re t u m Sh o pp i n g C e n t er (S i t e P l a n 03 -06 ), P l a n n i n g C a s e #08 -22 , t o a ll o w a d r i v e -t h r u w i nd o w a nd r e d e s i g n p a r k i n g l a y o u t a nd s i t e c i rc u l a t i o n a s s h o w n i n p l a n s d a t e d r e c e i v e d D e ce m b e r 1 5 , 2 00 8 , w i t h t h e f o ll o w i n g c o n d i t i o n s a nd b a s e d o n a d o p t i o n o f t h e a t t a c h e d F i n d i n g s o f F a c t : 1. A pp r o v a l o f t h e s i t e p l a n i s c o n t i n g e n t up o n a pp r o v a l o f t h e P UD a m e n d m e n t a l l o w i n g a d r i v e -t h r u w i n d o w . 2. T h e w e s t e r n t h r ee a n g l e d p a r k i n g s t a ll s m u s t b e s t r i p e d a n d s i g n e d a s c o m p ac t s t a ll s . 3. A n y e x i s t i n g b u f f e r y a r d p l a n t i n g s t h a t a r e r e m o v e d f o r t h e d e v e l op m e n t m u s t b e r e p l ace d w i t h i n t h e s a m e a r ea . A l a n d s ca p e p l a n m u s t b e s ub m i tt e d t o t h e c i t y f o r a pp r o v a l s h o w i n g l o ca t i o n s a n d s p e c i e s . T h e a p p li ca n t m a y g r o up p l a n t i n g s t o g e t h e r i n o r d e r t o a d d i n t e r e s t t o t h e l a n d s ca p i ng i f t h e d e s i g n d o e s n o t d i m i n i s h t h e s c r ee n i ng ca p a c i t y . 4. T h e a p p l i ca n t s h a l l w o r k w i t h s t a ff t o l o c a t e t h e p a t i o a nd s ec o nd a r y e n t r a n c e i n t o t h e s p ac e a s s h o w n i n E x h i b i t A . A l l v o t e d i n f a vo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a v o t e o f 5 t o 0 . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a t m o t i o n p r e v a i l s 5 -0 . V e r y g o o d t h a n k y o u . A pp r e c i a t e e v e r yb od y ’s i npu t a n d t h a n k y o u f o r p a r t i c i p a t i n g . 47 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 28 C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : A n d H a p p y B i r t h d a y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : E n j o y y o u r r i d e b a c k . H o p e f u ll y i t ’s s h o r t e r . A P P E A L VAR I A N C E , A M B R O S E N /S E NN , 3 8 30 M A P LE S HO R E S DR I V E , L O T 7 , B L O C K 1 , M A P LE R I D G E , A PP L I CA N T : S A W HO R S E D E S I G N E R S AND B U I L D E R S , O W N E R S : M A R K A M B R O S E N AND ANN S E NN : R E Q U E S T F O R A H ARD S UR F AC E C O V E RA G E VAR I ANC E. K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a n k y o u M a y o r , m e m b e r s o f t h e C i t y C o u n c i l . T h i s i t e m a pp ea r e d b e f o r e t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n o n D ec e m b e r 2 nd a n d a t t h a t t im e t h e y r ec o mm e n d e d 6 -0 t o d e n y t h e v a r i a n ce . T h i s s i t e i s l o ca t e d o n L a k e M i n n e w a s h t a , o f f M i nn e w a s h t a P a r k w a y . M a p l e S h o r e s D r i v e a n d s p e c i f i ca l l y i t ’s a c u l -d e -s ac w i t h a l o t . T h e r e w a s s o m e c o n f u s i o n a b o u t t h i s b e i ng a f l a g l o t . I t ’s n o t a f l a g l o t . A s w e i n t e r p r e t a f l a g l o t , a f l a g l o t o r n ec k l o t h a s 30 f ee t o f w i d t h . T h i s i s a n u n u s u a l s h a p e d l o t bu t i t d o e s m e e t t h e r e q u i r e m e n t s o f a r e gu l a r l o t . W h a t w e m e a s u r e t h e l o t w i d t h w h e r e i t m ee t s t h e 100 f o o t d e p t h , s o i t d o e s m e e t t h a t r e qu i r e m e n t s o t ec h n i ca l l y t h i s c a m e up a t t h e P l a nn i ng C o mmi ss i o n . T h e r e ’s s o m e o t h e r i n f o r m a t i o n i n t h e s t a f f r e p o r t t h a t w a s b r o ug h t u p b y t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n . I’m n o t g o i n g t o g o t h r o ug h a ll t h a t t o n i g h t un l e s s t h e r e ’s s p e c i f i c qu e s t i o n s o n i t . J u s t s o m e b ac kg r o u n d I t h i n k t h a t t h e p l a nn i ng , t h e a p p li c a n t h a d r a i s e d t h a t w e a dd r e ss e d a n d j u s t t o k i n d o f r e i t e r a t e s o I ’m n o t g o i n g t o s p e n d a l o t o f t im e o n t h a t . J u s t k i n d o f f o c u s o n t h e i s s u e s i t s e l f . A g a i n t h e P l a nn i n g C o m m i ss i o n d i d r ec o mm e n d d e n i a l s o t h e a pp li c a t i o n , o r t h e r e qu e s t b e f o r e y o u t o n i g h t f o l l o w s t h r o ug h o n t h a t s a m e m o t i o n . S o t h e r e qu e s t i s f o r a 3 .7 % i n c r ea s e i n t h e h a r d s u r f a c e c o v e r a g e . T h i s r e qu e s t w a s d e r i v e d b y t h e f ac t t h a t t h e a pp li c a n t h a d c o m e i n t o d o a n a d d i t i o n t o t h e h o u s e . T h e l o t i t s e l f w a s s l i g h t l y o v e r . T h e y w a n t e d t o p r o cee d w i t h t h e a p p li ca t i o n p r i o r t o t h e f r o s t s o t h e s t a f f d i d f i nd a w a y t o w o r k t h r o ug h t h e p r o ce ss o f a l l o w i ng t h e m t o p r o cee d , b u t r e q u i r i n g a n e s c r o w f o r t h a t a pp li ca t i o n i t s e l f . S o t h i s i s t h e e x i s t i ng h o m e o n t h e s i t e . T h e a p p li c a n t s w a n t e d t o t a k e o n e o f t h e g a r a g e s t a ll s , t h e 3 s t a l l g a r a g e . T u r n i t t o a l a u n d r y a r ea a n d a dd a n a d d i t i o n a l g a r a g e s t a l l s o t h a t w o u l d i n c r ea s e t h e im p e r v i o u s , s o a s i t s i t s t o d a y , t h i s i s h o w t h e l o t l oo k s a n d t h i s i s t h e p r o p o s e d a dd i t i o n , s o y o u ca n s e e t h e e x i s t i n g g a r a g e i n t h i s s p ace , s o w e ’r e o v e r o f f t h e 28 .7 % s o k i c k i n g o u t t h i s a d d i t i o n a l g a r a g e s p ace . S o w i t h t h a t t h e a p p li c a n t , a g a i n t r y i n g t o w o r k w i t h t h e a p p li c a n t , w e d i d r e qu e s t t h a t , i f t h e y d i d w a n t t o p r o cee d t h a t t h e y w ou l d p r o v i d e s ec u r i t y t o r e m o v e t h e h a r d s u r f ace c o v e r a g e , w h i c h t h e y d e m o n s t r a t e d t h e y c o u l d d o , a n d a l l o w t h e m t o p r o cee d w i t h t h a t s ec u r i t y i n p l ace w i t h t h e i r r e q u i r e m e n t t h a t t h e y d i d p r o cee d f o r t h e v a r i a n ce , s o t h e y h a v e d o n e t h a t . S o i n l oo k i n g a t t h a t a p p li ca t i o n i t s e l f , y o u ca n s ee i n t h i s a r ea h e r e w h e r e t h e y c ou l d r e m o v e t h e h a r d s u r f ace c o v e r a g e t o m e e t t h e r e qu i r e m e n t . A t t h e P l a nn i n g C o mmi ss i o n t h e r e w a s a l o t o f d i s c u s s i o n o n l a k e e r o s i o n a n d t h a t s o r t o f t h i n g b u t I t h i n k w h a t w e r e a l l y w a n t t o k i n d o f k ee p t h e d i s c u ss i o n o n t h e p o r t i o n o f t h e a p p li ca t i o n h e r e i s w h e r e w e c o u l d r e m o v e t h e h a r d s u r f ace c o v e r a g e t o m ee t t h e r e qu i r e m e n t . I t i s a l a k e s h o r e l o t s o t h e r e i s e n o ug h s qu a r e f o o t a g e t o g e t t h e m u n d e r t h e , a s y o u ca n s ee h e r e , t h e p e r ce n t a g e d o w n t o t h e 25 % w h i c h i n c l u d e s s o m e o f t h e r e m o v a l o f t h e f i r e p i t a r ea . T h e e x t r a t u r n a r o u n d . I’l l s h o w y o u s o m e p i c t u r e s t h a t y o u d o h a v e i n y o u r p ac k e t . I t h i n k t h e y s h o w up a l i t t l e b i t c l ea r e r . T h e r e w a s a n i ss u e r e g a r d i n g t h e po t e n t i a l f l a g l o t , h o w t o b ac k d o w n . A g a i n t h e s t a ff’s op i n i o n , w h e n t h e y w e n t o u t l oo k i n g a n d o u r s t a f f , A n g i e A u s e t h w h o w r o t e t h e s t a f f r e p o r t a n d v i s i t e d t h e s i t e , f e l t i t w a s p r e t t y f l a t a n d r e l a t i v e l y ea s y t o b ac k o u t a n d f e l t t h a t t h a t p r o b a b l y w a s n ’t p a r t o f t h e h a r d s h i p , a n d o bv i o u s l y t h e 48 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 29 P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n i n t h e i r r ec o mm e n d a t i o n c o n c u rr e d w i t h t h a t , b u t t h a t w a s s o m e o f t h e c o n ce r n t h a t b e i n g a f l a g l o t i t w o u l d b e h a r d t o b ac k o u t , bu t i n o u r o p i n i o n a g a i n t h a t f r o n t p a r t o f t h e l o t d o e s a pp ea r t o b e r e l a t i v e l y f l a t a n d t h a t s h ou l d n ’t b e p a r t o f t h e p r o b l e m . S o w i t h t h a t t h e , w e b e li e v e t h a t t h e y c a n m ee t t h e r e q u i r e m e n t b y r e d u c i n g s o m e o f t h a t h a r d c o v e r a g e , w h i c h w e h a d r ec o mm e n d e d . T h e y d i d h a v e t o s u b m i t a d e t a il e d s u r v e y f o r u s i n o r d e r t o d e t e r mi n e , f o r t h e m t o p r o cee d a h ea d o f t im e . T h e y w o u l d h a v e n ee d e d i t w i t h t h e a p p li ca t i o n , b u t w i t h t h e b u i l d i ng p e r m i t t o f i gu r e o u t w h e r e , h o w m u c h t h e y w e r e o v e r , s o t h a t w a s a r e q u i r e m e n t a s a p a r t o f t h i s t oo , a n d a s -b u i l t s u r v e y i n o r d e r f o r u s t o f i gu r e o u t e x ac t l y h o w m u c h h a r d c o v e r t h e y h a v e . S o a g a i n t h e s t a ff’s op i n i o n w a s t h a t t h e r e w a s r ea s o n a b l e u s e o f t h e p r o p e r t y . W e h a d pu t i n t h e r e po r t t h a t t h e s e a r e l a r g e r l o t s. A t t h a t t im e t h e l a k e s h o r e r u l e s d i d r e q u i r e 20 ,000 s o t h i s i s a 28 ,000 s qu a r e f o o t l o t s o i t i s a l i t t l e b i t b i gg e r a n d t h e h o m e s o b v i o u s l y d o w n i n t h a t a r ea a r e l a r g e r t o o a n d t h e y d o h a v e a 3 ca r g a r a g e , s o t h e s e a r e s o m e o f t h e f a c t o r s t h a t t h e P l a nn i ng C o mmi ss i o n a l s o l oo k e d a t i n t h e i r d e t e r mi n a t i o n o f t h e r ec o mm e n d e d , s upp o r t i n g t h e s t a ff ’s v a r i a n ce . A g a i n t h e h a r d s h i p w a s t h a t t h e y d i d n ’t w a n t t o h a v e t o r e m o v e t h e h a r d c o v e r t h a t w a s a l r ea d y t h e r e . S o w i t h t h a t , t h a t w a s t h e s t a f f r e p o r t . T h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n c o n c u rr e d w i t h t h a t a n d I ’d b e h a p p y t o a n s w e r a n y q u e s t i o n s t h a t y o u m a y h a v e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . A n y qu e s t i o n s f o r s t a ff ? C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : T h e qu e s t i o n I gu e ss I w o u l d h a v e i n l oo k i n g a t t h i s , y o u s a i d t h a t y o u a l l h a d g o n e o u t t h e r e a n d k i n d o f a s s e ss e d t h e d r i v e w a y . I s t h e r e r o o m i f s o m e o n e i s i n t h e g a r a g e t o b ac k o u t a n d m a n e u v e r s o t h a t y o u ca n d r i v e d o w n i n s t ea d o f b ac k o u t ? I s t h e r e e n o ug h t u r n i n g s p a ce ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l t h e r e ’s a 20 f o o t s p ace h e r e . A l o n g t h e d r i v e w a y t h a t y o u c o u l d b ac k o u t . E v e n o n t h i s o n e t oo , y o u c o u l d b ac k i n t o t h a t . T h i s i s t h e a d d i t i o n a l d r i v e w a y . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : O k a y . O k a y , s o r ea l l y a t t h a t p o i n t y o u w o u l d s t i l l , y o u w o u l d n ’t h a v e t o b ac k d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y t h e n ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I d o n ’t b e li e v e s o b u t e v e n i f y o u w a n t e d t o . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : I t ’s f l a t e n o ug h a n d o p e n e n o ug h t h a t i t d o e s n ’t c r e a t e a . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : A n d i t ’s a l s o f r o m . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h e v i s i b il i t y a p p ea r e d v e r y c l ea r . Y o u ’r e a t t h e e n d o f a c u l -d e -s a c . I t d i d n ’t s e e m t o b e a b i g c o n f l i c t . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : A n d i t w a s a l s o f l a t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : R i g h t , b eca u s e t h a t ’s w h a t m o s t p e o p l e w ou l d d o w o u l d b e b ac k o u t t h e i r d r i v e w a y . Y ea h . I t ’s r e l a t i v e l y f l a t . 49 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 30 C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : O k a y . T h a t w a s t h e b i g g e s t qu e s t i o n I h a d b eca u s e t h a t w a s t h e b i gg e s t a r ea a n d I w a s j u s t w o n d e r i n g h o w m u c h s p ace w a s ac t u a l l y t h e r e . O k a y , t h a n k y o u . M a y o r F u r l o n g : C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : K a t e , s o m e o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t y o u n o t e d i n h e r e w a s t h e r e -e s t a b li s h m e n t o f v e g e t a t i o n c o v e r w o u l d s l o w t h e m o v e m e n t o f s u r f a ce w a t e r . K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l I t h i n k w e go t i n t o a b i g d i s c u s s i o n o n t h e b ac k y a r d . W e go t i n t o s o m e s i d e i s s u e s I t h i n k o f w h e t h e r i t ’s a f l a g l o t . T h e e r o s i o n i n t h e b ac k y a r d , b u t a g a i n ce r t a i n l y r e- e s t a b li s h i ng t h e b ac k y a r d w o u l d b e g r ea t , b u t I’m n o t s u r e t h a t ’s t h e m a i n t h i ng t h a t w e ’r e l ook i n g a t h e r e t o n i g h t . I f w e w a n t t o h a v e a d i s c u s s i o n o n t h a t , I t h i n k t h o s e a r e s o m e o f t h e p o i n t s t h a t I b r o ug h t up t h a t w e r e b r o ug h t u p a t t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n . W e k i n d o f t o u c h e d a l l b a s e s o n t h a t i ss u e . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : W e l l t h e r ea s o n I’m a s k i ng t h a t qu e s t i o n i s b e ca u s e I’m w o n d e r i n g , d e p e n d i ng o f c o u r s e o n h o w m u c h v e g e t a t i o n w o u l d b e r e p l ace d , i s w o u l d i t c o m p e n s a t e f o r a m a j o r i t y o f t h e a d d i t i o n a l p e r c e n t a g e s b e i ng a s k e d f o r ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l , s o m e v e g e t a t i o n w a s t a k e n d o w n du r i n g t h e c o n s t r u c t i o n o f s o m e o f t h e s t r u c t u r e s i n t h e b ac k y a r d . T e rr y J e ff e r y : I f I m a y M r . M a y o r . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : Y e s M r . J e f f e r y . T e rr y J e ff e r y : N o , I d o n o t b e li e v e t h a t i t w o u l d c o u n t i n s a y i ng f o r t h e a d d i t i o n a l h a r d c o v e r s t h a t w o u l d b e pu t o n t o t h i s s i t e . F i r s t o f a ll , I m e a n i t ’s a DN R s h o r e l a n d r e g u l a t e d a r ea s o t h e y d o n ’t h a v e , w i t h i n t h e S N R r u l e s . T h e r e i s n ’t s o m e t h i n g t h a t s a y s i f y o u g o o v e r b y t h i s a n d y o u do t h i s t o m i t i g a t e , t h e n i t ’s o k a y . I t ’s j u s t a f l a t r a t e . S o e x c l u s i v e o f o u r c i t y c o d e f o r t h e 25 % i m p e r v i o u s , t h e r e ’s t h e DN R r u l e s b eca u s e t h i s i s a s h o r e l a n d a r ea . S o e v e n i f w e d i d n ’t h a v e t h e 25 % h a r d c o v e r w i t h i n t h e r e s t o f t h e c i t y , y o u ’d s t il l a p p l y i t h e r e . B u t li k e K a t e h a d s a i d , i t d i d . I t b ec a m e s o m e s i d e d i s c u ss i o n s . W h a t a b o u t t h i s ? W h a t a b o u t t h a t ? W e pu t i n t h i s p a t i o f o r t h e s e r ea s o n s w h e n r e a l l y t h e i ss u e i s , ca n t h e y b u il d t h e i r s t a t e d g o a l a n d m ee t t h e 25 % h a r d c o v e r a n d t h e y ’v e d e m o n s t r a t e d t h a t t h e y c a n . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : W e l l I k n o w t h a t w e h a v e m a d e s l i g h t c o n ce s s i o n s i n t h e p a s t , d e p e n d i n g o n w h a t t h e o w n e r w a s w i ll i ng t o d o a n d I’m c u r i o u s a s t o w h a t t h e DN R r e gu l a t i o n i s . S o w h e n y o u w e r e t a l k i ng a b o u t t h e DN R r e gu l a t i o n s , w h a t i s t h a t f o r t h i s k i nd o f p r o p e r t y t h a t w e ’r e t a l k i ng a b o u t ? T e rr y J e ff e r y : A n y t h i ng w i t h i n 1 ,000 f ee t o f a DN R r e g u l a t e d w a t e r b o d y c a n n o t h a v e m o r e t h a n 25 % i m p e r v i ou s c o v e r . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : O k a y . S o t h a t ’s o u t s i d e o f o u r c i t y c o d e? 50 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 31 T e rr y J e ff e r y : C o rr e c t . O u r , w e p u t t o g e t h e r o u r o w n s h o r e l a n d o r d i n a n c e a n d s u b m i tt e d i t t o t h e D i r ec t o r o f t h e D e p a r t m e n t o f N a t u r a l R e s o u r ce s f o r t h e i r a pp r o v a l s o t h a t w e t h e n c o u l d r e g u l a t e t h e l a k e s w i t h i n o u r c i t y i n s t ea d o f h a v i n g t o r e l y up o n a n o u t s i d e e n t i t y . S o o u r r u l e s n ee d t o b e c o n s i s t e n t w i t h t h e D e p a r t m e n t o f N a t u r a l R e s o u r ce s r u l e s . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : B u t I m ea n e v e n i f w e w e r e t o d o t h a t , i t s o u n d s li k e i t w o u l d b e a g a i n s t w h a t DN R r e gu l a t i o n s a r e . T e rr y J e ff e r y : C o rr e c t . T h e D e p a r t m e n t o f A g , o r t h e D e p a r t m e n t o f N a t u r a l R e s o u r ce s w o u l d n ee d a l s o t o s i g n o f f o n i t . T y p i c a ll y t h e y w il l d e f e r t o t h e c i t y b u t i t w o u l d n ee d t o b e s ub m i tt e d t o t h e D e p a r t m e n t o f N a t u r a l R e s o u r ce s f o r t h e i r a pp r o v a l o f a n y v a r i a n ce t h a t w o u l d b e r e qu e s t e d , o r g r a n t e d . K a t e A a n e n s o n : M a y o r i f I m a y , I j u s t w a n t t o c l a r i f y . W e h a v e h a d s m a ll e r b ea c h l o t s i n C a r v e r B ea c h a n d s o m e ca b i n s t h a t w e r e o n M i n n e w a s h t a t h a t h a v e g o n e o v e r . I d o n ’t w a n t t o s a y w e ’v e n e v e r g o n e o v e r t h e h a r d , a n d I t h i n k C o u n c i l w o m a n E r n s t i s c o rr e c t . W e ’v e t r i e d t o a p p l y m i t i g a t i o n . B u t w e l oo k a t t h e h a r d s h i p r u l e . S o m e o f t h o s e o l d ca b i n s d i d n ’t h a v e a g a r a g e a n d w e a s M i nn e s o t a n s , i n w ea t h e r li k e t h i s, h a v e d e e m e d n o t h a v i ng a g a r a g e i s a h a r d s h i p . S o t h e n w e w o u l d f i nd a w a y t o m i t i g a t e t h a t p r o v i d i ng a d d i t i o n a l l a n d s ca p e . I n t h i s c i r c u m s t a n ce t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n f e l t h a v i n g , a l r ea d y h a v i ng a 2 ca r g a r a g e . C o nv e r t i n g t h a t a n d a d d i n g o n d i d n ’t m ee t t h e i r b e l i e f o f t h a t h a r d s h i p r u l e . I f t h a t c l a r i f i e s w h e r e , k i n d o f w h e r e , b e c a u s e w e h a v e d o n e t h a t b e f o r e . P r o v i d e t h a t m i t i g a t i o n b u t i t w a s t h a t h a r d s h i p t e s t t h a t t h e y w e r e s t r ug g li n g w i t h . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : T h a n k y o u . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O t h e r qu e s t i o n s ? Ms . A a n e n s o n , a c o up l e qu e s t i o n s . F i r s t o f a ll , ca n w e , l e t ’s s t a r t w i t h t h i s p i c t u r e r i g h t h e r e t h a t y o u h a v e o f t h e 8 s h a d e d r e d a r ea s , o r r e d s h a d e d a r ea s . A r e t h o s e t h e p r o p o s e d r e m o v a l o f i m p e r v i ou s s u r f a c e o n t h e s i t e ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d w h o p u t t h i s t o g e t h e r ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h e a p p li c a n t d i d b e c a u s e w e w a n t e d t o s ee i f t h e y c ou l d m ee t t h e t e s t b e f o r e w e i s s u e d t h e b u i l d i n g p e r m i t . T h a t ’s w h y w e a s k e d f o r t h a t d e s i g n , b eca u s e w h e n w e s a w t h e b u i l d i ng p e r m i t c o m e i n , i t a pp ea r e d t o b e o v e r s o w e a s k e d t h e m f o r t h e a s -b u i l t s o w e c o u l d d e t e r mi n e w h a t . T h e n w e h a d t o m a k e t h e n e x t d e c i s i o n . T h e y r e a ll y w a n t e d t o g o f o r w a r d a n d n o w w e ’r e t r y i ng t o b e y o u k n o w a s acc o m m o d a t i n g a s w e c o u l d s o w e l oo k e d a t c o u l d t h e y f i nd a w a y t o d o i t . I f t h e y h a d t o a n d d i d n ’t g e t a v a r i a n ce . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d t h e a n s w e r w a s t h e y c a m e b a c k w i t h t h i s s h o w i n g t h a t t h e y c ou l d . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . A n d j u s t t o b e c l ea r , I d o n ’t t h i n k w e w ou l d h a v e f e l t c o m f o r t a b l e l e tt i n g t h e m p r o cee d , b eca u s e w e d o n ’t h a v e t h a t a u t h o r i t y t o a l l o w t h e m t o g o w i t h o u t a n o p p o r t un i t y 51 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 32 t o m e e t t h a t r e qu i r e m e n t s o w e w a n t e d t o s a y , d o e s t h a t s e e m a r ea s o n a b l e w a y t o m e e t t h e r e q u i r e m e n t a n d l e t t h e m p r o cee d w i t h t h e b u i l d i n g p e r m i t i n v i o l a t i o n o f t h e c o d e , s o w e h a d s ec u r i t y i n p l a c e . S o t h a t w a s t h e r ea s o n w e w e n t t h a t w a y . T h e y p r o v i d e d t h a t i n f o r m a t i o n t o s a y t h i s c ou l d w o r k . O t h e r w i s e w e w o u l d n ’t h a v e g r a n t e d t h e m t h a t o p p o r t un i t y b e c a u s e n o r m a l l y w e w ou l d s a y y o u c a n ’t p r o cee d u n t i l y o u w o r k t h r o ug h t h i s p r o ce ss . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . A l r i g h t . A n d t h e n i f y o u c o u l d s c r o l l b ac k up a c o up l e . Y o u s h o w e d t h e e x i s t i n g s qu a r e f o o t a g e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : O h s u r e . O f t h e o r i g i n a l h o u s e ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : W e l l t h a t ’s t h e p r o p o s e d a d d i t i o n . T h a t o n e r i g h t t h e r e . T h e e x i s t i n g s i t e c o v e r a g e . T h a t a l r ea d y e x cee d s t h e 25 %? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : D i d t h a t h a pp e n w i t h s o m e p a t i o s a n d s u c h …? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I w o u l d gu e ss . P r o b a b l y a p a t i o o r f i r e p i t o r s o m e t h i ng li k e t h a t . T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . A n d g e n e r a l l y p e r m i t s n o w a p e r m i t i s r e q u i r e d b u t o v e r t h e y ea r s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h e y ’r e n o t a l w a y s a c h i e v e d , r i g h t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h e y h a v e n ’t b e e n , o k a y . A l r i g h t . A n d i f y o u s c r o l l d o w n t h e n t o t h e p r o p o s e d a d d i t i o n s , t h e p r o p o s a l i n f r o n t o f u s i s t o a l l o w t h e a d d i t i o n a l 850 s qu a r e f ee t w i t h o u t r e m o v a l o f e v e n t h e e x i s t i n g , o r t h e p r e -e x i s t i n g v i o l a t i o n . B u t t h a t t h e p r o p o s a l i s t o a l l o w w h a t t h e y w e r e b e f o r e p l u s t h e a d d i t i o n o f e v e r y t h i ng , i s t h a t w h a t t h e y ’r e a s k i ng f o r ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . Y ea h . W e ll t o g e t t o t h e 25 %, s o w e d i d n ’t g i v e t h e m t h e .7 , i s t h a t w h a t y o u ’r e a s k i n g ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : N o , I j u s t w a n t t o c l a r i f y t h a t t h e 28 .7 t h a t ’s b e i ng r e qu e s t e d i n c l ud e s w h a t t h e , h o w t h e p r o p e r t y w a s e x i s t i ng b e f o r e a n y o f t h e a d d i t i o n s p l u s a ll t h e a d d i t i o n s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h , I t h i n k t h a t ’s c o rr e c t . Y ea h , t h e n e x t s li d e I s h o w t h e m t o g e t h e r . I t h i n k t h a t t h e r e ’s a c o m p a r i s o n t h e r e . T h a t ’s p r o b a b l y a b e tt e r c o m p a r i s o n , y e a h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . N o w a t t h e b o tt o m t h e r e , p e r ce n t a g e w i t h r e du c t i o n s . S o t h a t a c t u a l l y w i t h i n a f e w s qu a r e f ee t . B u t w h a t s t a f f i s r ec o m m e n d i ng w i t h t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n a l s o r ec o mm e n d e d i s t h a t t h e y b e r e q u i r e d t o , w i t h t h e a d d i t i o n s , s t ill r e m o v e e n o ug h s o t h a t t h e y m ee t t h e 25 f oo t , 25 % r e qu i r e m e n t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . 52 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 33 M a y o r F u r l o n g : S o t h e y c a n h a v e , i n c r e a s e t h e a d d i t i o n s b u t t h e y h a v e t o t a k e s o m e t h i ng o u t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . T h a n k y o u . O k a y , a n y t h i n g e l s e a t t h i s t im e ? O k a y , i s t h e a p p li c a n t h e r e t h i s e v e n i n g ? R e p r e s e n t a t i v e , t h a t w i l l w o r k j u s t f i n e . P l e a s e a pp r o ac h t h e c o u n c i l a n d s t a t e y o u r n a m e a n d a dd r e ss f o r t h e r e c o r d s i r . F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h , m y n a m e i s F r e d B r un i ng . I ’m w i t h S a w h o r s e D e s i g n e r s a n d B u i l d e r s , 4740 42 nd A v e n u e N o r t h i n R o bb i n s d a l e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , t h a n k y o u . P l e a s e . F r e d B r un i ng : G o o d e v e n i ng M a y o r a n d c o u n c i l m e m b e r s a n d c i t y m a n a g e r a n d a tt o r n e y . I a ss u m e y o u a ll h a v e r ea d t h e r e p o r t a n d t h i n k y o u g u y s s e e m t o k n o w s o m e o f t h e i s s u e s , s o I ’m n o t g o i n g t o r e p e a t t h e n a rr a t i v e s a n d t h i n g s I d i d b e f o r e . W h a t I ’d l i k e t o d o i s c o mm e n t o n s o m e o f t h e i t e m s i n t h e s t a f f r e p o r t . A l s o i f I c o u l d n o w a s k s o m e qu e s t i o n s f o r c l a r i f i ca t i o n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a t ’s f i n e . F r e d B r un i ng : W h a t I d i d i s I m a d e s o m e c op i e s o f s o m e n o t e s a n d c o mm e n t s t h a t I h a v e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : P l e a s e . M a yb e i f y o u h a v e c op i e s f o r t h e s t a f f a s w e l l . F r e d B r un i ng : W e l l I h a v e 6 c o p i e s . I c o u n t e d 5 c o u n c i l m e m b e r s a n d t h e m a y o r . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . W e l l m a y b e w e c a n s h a r e up h e r e b u t I w a n t t o m a k e s u r e t h a t s t a f f h a s c o p i e s t o o . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : Y o u g o a h ea d a n d t a k e a c o p y a n d J e r r y a n d I w i l l s h a r e . A ss u m i ng y ou ’ll s h a r e w i t h m e J e r r y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : P l e a s e c o n t i n u e . F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h , a n d I’ll s h o w y o u h o w t h i s a l l w o r k s a s w e g o t h r o ug h i t b u t I ’v e h i g h l i g h t e d s o m e t h i n g s I ’d l i k e t o c o mm e n t a b o u t . F i r s t h i g h li g h t e d o n e w i t h t h e o n e o f f t o t h e l e f t t h e r e . B a s e d o n t h e gu i d e l i n e s o f t h e c i t y c o d e f o r t h e R S F d i s t r i c t , t h e p r o p e r t y o w n e r d o e s h a v e a r ea s o n a b l e u s e o f t h e p r o p e r t y w h i c h i n c l u d e s a s i n g l e f a m il y h o m e a n d a 3 ca r g a r a g e . I ’v e g o n e a r o u n d a l i tt l e b i t o n t h i s a s f a r a s li k e a d e f i n i t i o n . I m e a n w h a t i s r ea s o n a b l e u s e ? W h e n I’v e a s k e d s t a f f b e f o r e i f i t ’s a n R -1 z o n e d h o u s e a n d a 2 ca r g a r a g e , i t ’s r ea s o n a b l e u s e . I t s e e m s li k e t h a t t e r m c ou l d b e s u b s t i t u t e d f o r r ea s o n a b l e u s e a n d b e m u c h m o r e c l ea r w h a t i s r ea s o n a b l e u s e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : Ms . A a n e n s o n , M r . K n u t s o n ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l I t h i n k , y o u k n o w a r e y o u t a l k i ng a b o u t f o r a s i n g l e f a mil y l o t ? 53 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 34 F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h . K a t e A a n e n s o n : A s i n g l e f a mil y l o t , d e p e n d i n g o n t h e t y p e o f h o m e , y o u c o u l d h a v e a r a m b l e r o n t h a t t h a t m e e t s o u r mi n i m u m w h i c h i s p r o b a b l y l e ss t h a n 1 ,000 s qu a r e f ee t w i t h a 2 ca r g a r a g e . T h e r e ’s n o r e qu i r e m e n t i n t h e c i t y t h a t y o u ’r e o b li g a t e d f o r a 3 ca r g a r a g e . F r e d B r un i ng : N o , s o m y , a n d j u s t f o r c l a r i f i c a t i o n t h e n . Y o u k n o w t h e d e f i n i t i o n i s a n R -1 z o n e d h o u s e w i t h 2 ca r g a r a g e . I m e a n t h a t ’s r ea s o n a b l e . T h a t ’s t h e o n l y r ec o gn i ze d r ea s o n a b l e u s e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . F r e d B r un i ng : O k a y . I t ’d b e h e l p f u l I m ea n i f y ou gu y s w a n t e d t o a d j u s t t h i n g s , pu t t h a t l a n gu a g e i n t h e r e a n d i t , y o u k n o w i t e li m i n a t e s a l o t o f a m b i g u i t y . T h e r e i s a r e f e r e n ce I ’d li k e t o m a k e , i f y o u l oo k t o p a g e 1 0 . T h e r e a r e n u m b e r s a t t h e b o tt o m . S e c t i o n 20 -58 i n t h e c i t y c o d e , t h e h i g h l i g h t e d p o r t i o n . F o r pu r p o s e s o f d e f i n i t i o n o f u n du e h a r d s h i p , r ea s o n a b l e u s e i n c l ud e s t h e u s e m a d e b y t h e m a j o r i t y o f c o m p a r a b l e p r o p e r t y w i t h i n 500 f ee t . T h e c o m p a r a b l e p r o p e r t y w i t h i n 500 f e e t o f t h i s p r o p e r t y e x cee d s , a m a j o r i t y e x cee d h a r d c o v e r . I m e a n i f y o u l oo k a t ae r i a l p h o t o s i t ’s o bv i o u s . Y o u k n o w i t s ee m s t h a t r ea s o n a b l e u s e i s s upp o s e d t o i n c l u d e u s e s m a d e b y t h e m a j o r i t y o f p e op l e w i t h i n 500 f e e t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C a n I c l a r i f y t h a t ? T h a t w a s , m o s t o f t h e s e p o i n t s w e r e b r o ug h t up a t t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n I b e l i e v e w e r e a dd r e ss e d b u t t h e r e i s a h o u s e t h a t t h e y p o i n t e d o u t t h a t ’s o v e r t h e im p e r v i o u s a n d w e ’r e f o l l o w i ng up o n t h a t o n e . W e h a v e s o m e o t h e r o n e s , i f w e ’r e m a d e a w a r e o f t h e m a n d t h e y ’v e d o n e w o r k w i t h o u t a p e r m i t , w e ’r e f o l l o w i ng up o n t h o s e . I d o n ’t b e li e v e a m a j o r i t y o f t h e m a r e o v e r t h e 30 %. A g a i n , 25 %. Y ea h , a g a i n m o s t o f t h o s e l o t s o n t h e e n d o f t h a t c u l -d e -s ac a r e l a r g e r t oo , s o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t f o r c l a r i f i ca t i o n , t h e 25 % r e q u i r e m e n t , o b v i o u s l y t h e a l l o w a b l e i m p e r v i ou s c o v e r a g e v a r i e s b y t h e l o t s i ze b e ca u s e t h e 25 % i s o f t h e l o t s i ze . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t , s o y o u r ea l l y h a v e t o d o a s u r v e y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A l a r g e r l o t w o u l d h a v e l a r g e r i m p e r v i o u s s u r f ace c o v e r a g e a l l o w e d . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . A n d t h i s l o t i s 28 ,000 s o i t ’s a l r ea d y g i v e n q u i t e a b i t m o r e h a r d c o v e r . F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h , I m e a n p a r t o f o u r i s s u e a t t h e C i t y C o u n c i l m ee t i n g w a s , w e w e r e a s k e d t o d o c u m e n t t h a t . I m e a n I d o n ’t h a v e a n y r i g h t t o g e t a s u r v e y o f s o m e o n e e l s e ’s p r o p e r t y . A n d i f I w e r e t o s u r v e y 32 p r o p e r t i e s , I m e a n $32 ,000 . S o i t ’s h a r d . Y o u ca n go o n t h e C a r v e r C o u n t y w e b s i t e y o u c a n l oo k a t i t a n d w e d i d m a t h . A t w o r k w e t r i e d t o b e v e r y f a i r b u t w e c a m e up w i t h 20 o u t o f t h e 32 . 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F r e d B r un i ng : R e q u i r i ng a s -b u i l t s u r v e y , t h e d e t e r m i n a t i o n t o r e qu i r e t h a t w a s ac t u a l l y m a d e , R i c k M y l a r o u r s t a f f a r c h i t ec t i s n ’t h e r e b u t w e m e t w i t h t h e c i t y a h ea d o f t im e t o g o t h r o ug h t h e w h o l e p r o ce ss t o m a k e s u r e t h a t t h e r e w e r e n ’t a n y b u m p s i n t h e r o a d . W e a s a c o m p a n y t r y t o d o t h a t s o e v e r y t h i n g ’s s m oo t h s a i l i ng f o r o u r c li e n t s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : A g a i n l e t m e c l a r i f y f o r t h e c o u n c i l . T h e s t a f f ac t e d i n go o d f a i t h t o a l l o w t h e a p p li c a n t t o p r o cee d k n o w i n g f a i r w e ll t h e y w e r e e x c e e d i n g t h e h a r d c o v e r . W e r a r e l y d o t h a t b u t w e a c t e d i n go o d f a i t h t o l e t t h e m p r o cee d b a s e d o n t h e s u r v e y t h e y s u b m i tt e d t o u s s h o w i n g a h a r d c o v e r . S o w e w o u l d n ’t h a v e i ss u e d y o u t h e b u i l d i ng p e r m i t h a d y o u n o t s ub m i tt e d t h a t . I t w a s n ’t a n a f t e r t h o ug h t . I t w a s p e r mi ss i o n f o r y o u t o p r o cee d . F r e d B r un i ng : T h a t w a s p a r t o f t h e b u i l d i ng p e r m it t o r e qu i r e t h e s u r v e y . T h e c a l c u l a t i o n f o r h a r d c o v e r ac t u a l l y w e r e n ’t i n i t i a ll y a s k e d f o r . W e d o n ’t mi nd p r o v i d i ng t h a t . I m ea n d o n ’t g e t m e w r o n g . W e d o n ’t mi n d p r o v i d i ng t h e m . T h e c l i e n t s a g r ee d t o t h e t e r m s a n d e v e r y t h i n g t o g r a n t t h e p e r m i t . I m e a n w e ’r e ac t i n g i n g oo d f a i t h t o o . I ’m j u s t t r y i ng t o u n d e r s t a n d y o u k n o w t h e p r o ce ss a n d h o w t h i n g s w o r k h e r e . I m e a n , s o t h a t ’s m y o n l y q u e s t i o n o n t h i s i t e m . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C a n I j u s t c l a r i f y a g a i n ? T h e r e ’s a d i s c o n n ec t h e r e b e c a u s e h o w w o u l d w e k n o w t h e y w e r e o v e r a n d a l l o w t h e m t o p r o cee d w i t h s ec u r i t y i n p l a ce un l e ss t h e r e w a s a n a s- b u i l t s u r v e y ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : I gu e ss t h e qu e s t i o n , y o u r qu e s t i o n s i r i s a b o u t n o r m a l p r o ce ss s o l e t m e a s k s o m e qu e s t i o n s f o r c l a r i f i ca t i o n . K a t e A a n e n s o n : S u r e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h e n o r m a l p r o ce ss , a ss u m i ng w e a t h e r ’s n o t a f ac t o r . A p r o p e r t y o w n e r w ill c o m e i n s ee k i ng a b u i l d i ng p e r m i t . P e r h a p s w i t h a r e p r e s e n t a t i v e a n d w i l l , o n e o f t h e s t e p s p r i o r t o i ss u i ng t h a t p e r m i t i s h a r d s u r f ace c o v e r a g e c o n s i d e r e d i n a n y o f t h o s e? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s . E v e r y t im e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : H o w m a n y ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : E v e r y o n e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : E v e r y t im e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : E v e r y t im e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . A n d t o t h e e x t e n t t h a t t h e a d d i t i o n s o r t h e e x i s t i n g p r o p e r t y , t h e p r o p e r t i e s e x i s t i n g b u i l t o u t o r t h e a d d i t i o n s w o u l d e x cee d t h e im p e r v i o u s s u r f ace l im i t f o r t h a t p r o p e r t y , w h a t ’s d o n e? 55 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 36 K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l n o r m a ll y w e w o u l d n ’t l e t s o m e t h i ng p r o cee d . W e w o u l d s a y y o u n ee d a v a r i a n ce a n d s t o p r i g h t t h e r e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : P r i o r t o p r o cee d i n g w i t h a n y . K a t e A a n e n s o n : W i t h a n y b u i l d i n g p e r m i t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B e f o r e i ss u i ng a p e r m i t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : R i g h t . N o w l e t m e j u s t c l a r i f y . I f y o u h a v e a p e r m i t t h a t w a s i s s u e d 6 m o n t h s a g o w i t h a n a s -b u i l t s u r v e y t h a t s o m e o n e w a n t e d t o p u t a d ec k o n w i t h i n 6 m o n t h s o r a y e a r , w o u l d w e a s k t h e m f o r a n e w o n e ? T h i s w a s b u i l t a n u m b e r o f y ea r s a g o s o s p ec i f i c a ll y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t t h a t w o u l d j u s t b e w h a t i n f o r m a t i o n w o u l d b e r e qu e s t e d t o i s s u e t h e p e r m i t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : C o r r ec t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t t h e , i f I’m u n d e r s t a n d i ng t h e qu e s t i o n c o rr ec t l y , a n d m a y b e I’m n o t s o c o r r ec t m e i f I’m w r o n g s i r b u t I’m g e t t i n g t h e s e n s e t h a t t h e qu e s t i o n h e r e i s , w e j u s t c a m e i n f o r a p e r m i t a n d t h i s h a r d s u r f a ce i ss u e c a m e up l a t e r . K a t e A a n e n s o n : R i g h t . I gu e ss w h e r e I’m c o n f u s e d i s , w e t r i e d t o b e , i n g oo d f a i t h , w e t r i e d t o do t h e m a f a v o r a n d n o w w e ’r e b e i ng li k e w e ’r e t h e b a d p e r s o n y o u k n o w . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I gu e ss I’m n o t h ea r i n g t h a t b u t . F r e d B r un i ng : N o , n o t a t a l l . M a y o r F u r l o n g : M a y b e y o u c o u l d k ee p m o v i ng a l o n g h e r e s o t h a t . F r e d B r un i ng : S u r e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I m e a n m a k e s u r e w e u n d e r s t a n d w h a t y o u r c o n ce r n s a r e . F r e d B r un i ng : S u r e . M y c l i e n t s c o m e i n , w e l l t h e r e ’s m a n y o f t h e m a n d m a y b e I g e t o n t o t h e r e s t o f t h e p o i n t s b u t t h e w h o l e p r o ce ss . I m ea n w e ’r e r e p l y i ng w e a g r ee d t o t h e s e t h i n g s a l o n g t h e w a y . I , t h i s f i r s t t e r m h e r e . I’m j u s t , w h a t ’s r ea s o n a b l e u s e o f a p r o p e r t y ? I n t h e c i t y c o d e i t s a y s a r ea s o n a b l e u s e i s a l s o a u s e t h a t ’s e n j o y e d b y t h e m a j o r i t y o f p e o p l e w i t h i n 500 f e e t o f t h i s , w e ll c o m p a r a b l e p r o p e r t i e s w i t h i n 500 f e e t o f t h i s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d w h a t I u n d e r s t a n d y o u ’r e s a y i ng i s t h a t i n y o u r o p i n i o n 20 o f t h e 30 o r 30 p l u s p r o p e r t i e s n e a r b y a l s o e x c e e d t h e im p e r v i ou s s u r f ace c o v e r a g e . F r e d B r un i ng : R i g h t , b u t I ca n ’t y o u d o c u m e n t a t i o n b eca u s e I d o n ’t h a v e a l e g a l r i g h t t o d o t h a t . O n t h e w e b s i t e y o u c a n ac t u a ll y l oo k a n d s ee t h a t . I m e a n I r e a li ze t h a t t h e c i t y h a s a n i s s u e 56 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 37 w i t h h a r d c o v e r a n d i t h a s b e c o m e a pp a r e n t f u r t h e r , w e ’r e t r y i ng t o a d d r e ss t h a t a n d m a y b e i t w i l l b e c o m e m o r e a pp a r e n t l a t e r o n b u t I t h i n k I h a v e a n u n d e r s t a n d i ng o f m y qu e s t i o n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . F r e d B r un i ng : S ec o n d p o i n t h e r e . T h e p r o ce ss o f o b t a i n i ng t h e b u i l d i ng p e r m i t a n d t h e r e du c t i o n o f 1 ,039 s qu a r e f ee t . S t a f f i n d i c a t e s t h a t d e m o n s t r a t e s t h e i r g o a l o f a d d i n g a h o m e , a d d i n g t o t h e i r h o m e a n d b r i n g i ng t h e s i t e i n t o c o m p l i a n ce w i t h t h e 25 % mi n i m u m h a r d c o v e r ca n b e a c h i e v e d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I’m s o rr y s i r , w h e r e a r e y o u i n y o u r d o c u m e n t ? F r e d B r un i ng : O h , t h e f i r s t p a g e , t h e s ec o n d h i g h l i g h t e d i t e m . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . F r e d B r un i ng : P a g e 3 , a n d i f y o u l oo k o v e r a t t h e r i g h t h a n d s i d e . T h e t w o w i t h t h e c i r c l e o n i t . I n o n e o f t h e n a rr a t i v e s I b r o ug h t t h e p o i n t o f j u s t b e c a u s e m y h o m e , m y c li e n t s a r e w i ll i ng t o acce p t a h a r d s h i p , i t d o e s n ’t m e a n t h a t t h e h a r d s h i p d o e s n ’t e x i s t . P a r t o f t h e p r o ce ss g o i n g t h r o ug h h e r e i s w e h a d w i n t e r q u i c k l y a pp r o ac h i n g . W e t a l k e d t o t h e s t a f f w a y a h e a d o f t im e , e n d o f S e p t e m b e r a n d j u s t w e n t t h r o ug h t h e s t e p s o f w h a t w e w e r e p r o p o s i n g t o d o . W e w a n t t o m a k e s u r e t h e r e ’s n o h i cc up s i n t h e r o a d . W a n t t o m a k e s u r e i t ’s s m oo t h s a i l i ng . I n i t i a ll y i t w e n t p r e t t y s m o o t h b u t t h e n y o u k n o w a l l t h e s e t h i n g s s t a r t e d c o mi n g up , w h i c h w e h a n d l e d , a n d w e a g r ee d t o e v e r y t h i ng t h a t w e ’r e i n t o n o w . W e w e r e g o i n g t o g o t h r o ug h t h e v a r i a n ce p r o ce ss a t t h e s a m e t im e w e ’r e g o i n g t h r o ug h t h e p e r m i t p r o c e ss . W h a t w e p r o p o s e d t o d o h e r e w e ’r e s ugg e s t i n g i s a h a r d s h i p . W h a t w e ’r e b e i ng a s k e d t o d o . R e m o v e t h e d r i v e w a y . F o r c i n g o u r c li e n t s t o b ac k d o w n 140 f ee t o f d r i v e w a y . N a rr o w d r i v e w a y . E a r li e r w h e n I s a i d , a n d I h a d n o w a y t o c o mm e n t a t t h e t im e , t h e p r o p o s e d d r i v e w a y , I d e s i g n a l o t o f d r i v e w a y s . I d e s i g n a l o t o f p r o j ec t s . Y o u ca n ’t t u r n a r o u n d o u t o f 2 o f t h o s e 3 g a r a g e s t a ll s . T h e o n l y o n e i s t h e o n e n ea r e s t t h e h o u s e t h a t y o u h a v e a c h a n ce o f b ac k i ng up a nd g o i n g d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y . T h e o t h e r t w o , n o . I m e a n t h e t u r n i n g r a d i u s o f a ca r t o c l ea r t h e g a r a g e doo r s , y o u ca n ’t . T h a t ’s p a r t o f t h e i s s u e i s t h e y w ou l d b e r e q u i r e d t o b ac k d o w n a d r i v e w a y . M a r k A m b r o s e n : E x c u s e m e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : G o o d e v e n i ng . M a r k A m b r o s e n : M a r k A m b r o s e n , 3830 M a p l e S h o r e s D r i v e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . M a r k A m b r o s e n : I j u s t w a n t e d t o , t h e p o i n t o f b a c k i n g o u t o f t h e g a r a g e i s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W h i c h p i c t u r e d o y o u w a n t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I’m t r y i ng t o f i n d a p i c t u r e w i t h t h e d r i v e w a y . 57 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 38 M a r k A m b r o s e n : O k a y . T h e p r o b l e m w i t h b ac k i n g o u t o f t h e g a r a g e , t o t u r n a r o u n d a n d g o d o w n , y o u ’r e , t h e r e d d e p i c t i o n d o e s n ’t s h o w t h e 2 t r ee s . T h e r e ’s ac t u a l l y 3 t r ee s i n t h e mi d d l e o f t h e t u r n a r o u n d . W e h a v e a n i s l a n d b u i l t up a r ou n d t h o s e t r ee s . I f y o u w a n t u s t o c u t d o w n t h o s e t r ee s, t h e n w e c ou l d b a c k up b u t I d o n ’t t h i nk a n yb od y w a n t s t o d o t h a t . B u t t h a t ’s w h a t ’s p r e v e n t i n g u s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l I gu e s s m y q u e s t i o n t h e n i s w h y d i d y o u s h o w u s t h e po t e n t i a l t o b e r e m o v e d t o m ee t t h e c o d e , b eca u s e t h a t ’s w h a t w e a g r ee d t o w h e n w e a d v a n ce d t h a t , t h a t c o u l d b e r e m o v e d . F r e d B r un i ng : L i k e I s t a t e d , w e ’r e d e m o n s t r a t i n g s o m e t h i n g c ou l d b e r e m o v e d b eca u s e w e n ee d e d a p e r m i t . W e a n t i c i p a t e d g e t t i n g a v a r i a n c e b eca u s e w h a t w e ’v e d e m o n s t r a t e d i s a h a r d s h i p a n d t h a t ’s w h y w e ’r e a s k i ng t h e C i t y C o u n c i l a n d P l a nn i ng C o mmi ss i o n t o d ec i d e . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : B u t o u t o f ea c h o f t h o s e g a r a g e s y o u c o u l d b a c k o u t d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y . E ac h o f t h o s e s t a ll s . F r e d B r un i ng : T h e o n l y c h a n ce y o u ’d h a v e i s t h e o n e c l o s e s t t o t h e h o u s e . I t w o u l d g i v e y o u e n o ug h t u r n i n g r a d i u s t o b ac k up i n t h e r e m a i nd e r t h e r e a n d h ea d d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : N o I ’m s a y i ng b ac k d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y . Y o u c o u l d b a c k d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y f r o m a n y o f t h o s e s t a ll s . F r e d B r un i ng : O h s u r e . S u r e . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : O k a y , a n d t h a t ’s t h e n o r m a l w a y m o s t p e o p l e e x i t t h e i r g a r a g e s i s t o b ac k d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y . N o w y o u ’r e s a y i ng p e r h a p s b eca u s e i t ’s a l o n g e r d r i v e w a y t h a t ’s c r ea t i n g s o m e k i n d o f a d d i t i o n a l u n du e h a r d s h i p . I s t h a t w h a t y o u ’r e s a y i n g ? F r e d B r un i ng : C o rr e c t . Y ea h , b ac k i ng d o w n a 30 f oo t s t r a i g h t d r i v e w a y , s u r e . I t ’s n o t a n i ss u e . S o m e o f t h e n e i g h b o r s o n t h a t s t r e e t ac t u a l l y d o t h a t . T h i s i s t h e c l o s e s t s t a ll i s 140 f ee t . A n d i t ’s a n 10 , w e ll a v e r a g e w i d t h a b o u t 10 f o o t 9 i n t h e d r i v e w a y . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : W e l l I gu e s s w h e r e i t g e t s c o n f u s i ng i s y o u m a k e i t s o u n d li k e t h e r e ’s n o w a y o u t o f t h o s e o t h e r s t a ll s . T h e r e i s . I t ’s b ac k i n g d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y a n d t h e n i t ’s a m a t t e r o f w h e t h e r t h a t c r e a t e s a n u n du e h a r d s h i p o r n o t . F r e d B r un i ng : S u r e . I w o u l d j u s t c o mm e n t , t h e r e w a s a qu e s t i o n f o r s t a f f b e f o r e I c a m e up a n d i t w a s s a i d t h a t y o u c o u l d b ac k o u t o f t h o s e g a r a g e s t a ll s a n d t u r n a r o u n d a n d h ea d s t r a i g h t d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y . T h e r e ’s o n l y o n e c h a n ce o n o n e o f t h e s t a ll s y o u c ou l d do t h a t . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : Y ea h . T o d d G e r h a r d t : M a y o r , c o u n c i l m e m b e r s , i f I c o u l d a dd a p o i n t h e r e . Y o u k n o w y o u c o u l d l oo k a t p u t t i n g a h a mm e r h ea d i n , b u t y o u w o u l d h a v e t o f i nd a n o t h e r s p o t t o pu l l o u t m o r e 58 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 39 i m p e r v i o u s . F i r e p i t a s a n e x a m p l e c o u l d c o m e o u t o f t h e r e . A l l o w y o u t h e p r i o r i t i z i n g o f w h i c h o f t h e t w o y o u ’d p r e f e r v e r s u s b ac k i ng a ll t h e w a y d o w n o r h a v i ng t h e f i r e p i t t a k e n o u t a n d pu t t i n g t h a t i m p e r v i ou s a s a h a m m e r h e a d . I f t h a t m a k e s s e n s e . M a r k A m b r o s e n : A s f a r a s I’m c o n ce r n e d , a n d m y w i f e , w e w o u l d t a k e o u t t h e f i r e p i t a n d p a t i o d o w n b y t h e l a k e , w e ’d t a k e o u t e v e r y t h i ng e l s e . W e r e a ll y d o t h i n k t h a t h a v i n g t h e t u r n a r o u n d i s a s a f e t y i ss u e . M y w i f e w a n t e d m e t o t e l l y o u t h a t s h e ca n ’t b ac k d o w n . T o d d G e r h a r d t : N o , i t ’s . M a r k A m b r o s e n : T h e o t h e r t h i n g i n , i t ’s p r o b a b l y n o t a p r o b l e m l e g a ll y b u t w e d o h a v e a p r o b l e m a t t h e e n d o f t h e c u l -d e -s ac . I f y o u l oo k s t r a i g h t d o w n t h a t d r i v e w a y o n t h e b o tt o m p i c t u r e , 3 d r i v e w a y s b a c k i n t o , i f w e ’r e o n e o f t h e m , b ac k i n t o t h a t s po t . T o t h e r i g h t i s n o f ac t o r . T h e h o u s e i s c o mi ng d o w n a d r i v e w a y r i g h t ac r o ss , y e a h . R i g h t ac r o ss a b r o a d e x p a n s e o f o n e s o t h e r e ’s go o d v i s i b il i t y . T o t h e l e f t t h e r e w a s a l a r g e b l u e s p r u ce t r ee . A b o u t 2 5 f ee t t a l l . T h e y c o m e , t h e y b ac k up a h i l l b li n d l y . F r e d B r un i ng : Y o u ca n ac t u a l l y s ee i t o n p a g e 6 . M a r k A m b r o s e n : O k a y , o n p a g e 6 . Y ea h , t h a t ’s a go o d e x a m p l e . T h a t gu y h a s a l r ea d y b ac k e d i n a n d h i t m y w i f e a s s h e w a s p a r k e d i n f r o n t o f t h e m a i l b o x b e c a u s e h e c a n ’t s ee h e r . S o t h a t ’s k i n d o f a b l i nd i ss u e . W h e n y o u h a v e 3 d r i v e w a y s b ac k i ng i n t o t h e s a m e a r ea . C o m p o u n d i ng t h a t , i n t h e s a m e p i c t u r e y o u ’l l s ee w h a t i s t h e n e i g h b o r h oo d b a s k e t b a l l h oo p . T h a t i s o w n e d b y t h e e n t i r e n e i g h b o r h oo d . W e h a v e 15 c h i l d r e n i n t h a t c u l -d e -s ac u n d e r t h e a g e s o f , t h e o l d e s t i s 15 . A s y o u ca n i m a g i n e t h a t g e t s a l o t o f ac t i v i t y . T h e y o u n g e s t a r e , I t h i n k w e h a v e a 5 y ea r o l d a n d a 7 y ea r o l d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d w h a t , I’m s o rr y , w h e r e ’s t h e b a s k e t b a l l h oo p ? M a r k A m b r o s e n : Y ea h , o n p a g e 6 . T o d d G e r h a r d t : H e r e ’s a p i c t u r e o f i t . M a r k A m b r o s e n : J u s t t o t h e l e f t o f t h e d r i v e w a y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , s o t h e y . O k a y s o t h e h oo p , a n d w e s ee t h a t i n c u l -d e -s a c s w h e r e t h e h oo p f ac e s o u t t o w a r d s t h e s t r e e t a n d c h il d r e n p l a y i n t h e c u l -d e -s ac . M a r k A m b r o s e n : C o rr e c t . T h a t ’s t h e o n l y f l a t p l a ce i n o u r c u l -d e -s ac b e ca u s e i n t h e ac t u a l c i r c l e a t t h e t o p , t h a t ’s f a i r l y f l a t . O t h e r w i s e y o u h a v e a h i l l a l l t h e w a y d o w n t o t h e p a r k w a y . T o d d G e r h a r d t : T h e c i t y m a n a g e r l o v e s b a s k e t b a ll . M a r k A m b r o s e n : T h a t b a s k e t b a l l h oo p i s , I d o n ’t k n o w h o w l o n g i t ’s b e e n g r a n d f a t h e r e d b u t t h a t s i t e h a s b e e n t h e r e s i n c e b e f o r e w e w e r e t h e r e i n 1999 . 59 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 40 T o d d G e r h a r d t : M a y o r a n d c o u n c il m e m b e r s , f r o m s t a ff’s p e r s p ec t i v e , T e rr y i f I c a n s p ea k f o r y o u , w e d o n ’t ca r e w h e r e t h e i m p e r v i ou s c o m e s o u t a s l o n g a s y o u h i t t h e 25 %, a n d i f y o u ’r e w i ll i ng t o t a k e t h e f i r e p i t o u t , s t a f f c ou l d l i v e w i t h a h a mm e r h ea d o r t h e U s h a p e d a s l o n g a s t h e s qu a r e f o o t a g e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : A n d t h e s qu a r e f o o t a g e , t h a n k y o u . T o d d G e r h a r d t : Y ea h , i s t h e s a m e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W h a t I’m h ea r i n g i s t h e o v e r a ll s qu a r e f o o t a g e f o r t h e p r o p e r t y . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e p . W e w e n t b y w h a t t h e i r r ec o m m e n d a t i o n s w e r e . T h a t ’s w h y I w a s t o t a ll y l o s t w h e r e t h e y w e r e g o i n g w i t h t h e d i s c u s s i o n . T h a t w a s t h e i r r ec o mm e n d a t i o n t h e y m a d e s o I w o u l d a g r ee . I f t h e y c a n f i nd w h a t e v e r t h e y w a n t t o t a k e o u t t o m ee t i t . T o d d G e r h a r d t : Y e p . Y o u d o n ’t h a v e t o f o l l o w t h e r e d a s l o n g a s y o u h i t t h e 25 %. F r e d B r un i ng : O n e o f m y c o n ce r n s t h o ug h i s p a r t o f t h e p r o ce ss . W e w e r e r e qu i r e d t o d o c a l c u l a t i o n s , w h i c h w e d i d . O n ce t h i s w h o l e p r o ce ss e n d s w e ’r e r e q u i r e d t o g e t a n a s -b u i l t s u r v e y o f t h e p r o p e r t y b y r e g i s t e r e d s u r v e y o r . I f t h e i r d o c u m e n t a t i o n i s d i f f e r e n t f r o m o u r ’s ? I m e a n I’m n o t a s u r v e y o r . I m e a n …t h a t ’s w h a t I w a s r e q u i r e d t o d o . A l l s a i d a n d d o n e w h e n i t c o m e s t o t h e e n d , m a y b e t h e f i r e p i t i s n ’t b i g e n o ug h . P l u s w e ’r e b e i n g a s k e d , I t h i n k w e w e r e 200 s qu a r e f ee t o v e r b e f o r e w e e v e n s t a r t e d t h i s o n t h e h a r d c o v e r f o r t h e l o t . W e ’r e b e i ng a s k e d t o m i t i g a t e w h a t w e ’r e a d d i n g p l u s t h a t o r i g i n a l 2 0 0 s qu a r e f ee t . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : I s t h a t t h e .7 ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h . I t s o u n d s li k e w e k i n d o f n ee d t o m e e t o n k i n d o f w h e r e t h e h a r d c o v e r a g e m a y b e a n d w e c a n w o r k t h a t o u t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : P e r h a p s . I d o n ’t k n o w i f t h e r e ’s a n u n d e r s t a n d i ng h e r e t h a t , a n d M r . B r un i n g I’ll l e t y o u c o n t i n u e b u t a s I u n d e r s t a n d i t , t h e s c h e m a t i c t h a t s h o w e d t h e r e d a r ea w a s s ub m i tt e d b y y o u , t h r o ug h s t a f f , s a y i ng h e r e ’s h o w , b a s e d o n o u r b e s t i n f o r m a t i o n , h e r e ’s h o w t h e 25 % c o u l d b e m e t . A n d t h a t w a s s ub m i tt e d i n o r d e r t o o b t a i n t h e p e r m i t a n d i n a n t i c i p a t i o n o n y o u r s i d e o f a c h i e v i n g a v a r i a n ce . F r e d B r un i ng : C o rr e c t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t n o n e t h e l e ss i t s h o w e d t h a t t h e p r o p e r t y , w i t h t h e a d d i t i o n s , c o u l d m ee t t h e 25 %. F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h , a n d t h a t w a s a r e qu i r e m e n t f o r t h e p e r m i t , e x ac t l y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : U n d e r s t a n d . O k a y . A l r i g h t . A nd s o w h a t I ’m h ea r i ng h e r e t o n i g h t i s , i f w e g o f o r w a r d t o n i g h t a n d a d h e r e t o t h e 25 %, t h e r e d i s no t r e qu i r e d . I t i s t h e o v e r a l l p r o p e r t y , 25 % o n t h e p r o p e r t y . S o w h e t h e r t h a t i s a p a t i o , p a v e r s s o m e w h e r e e l s e , w h a t e v e r t h a t i s n ece s s a r y t o g e t 60 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 41 d o w n t o t h a t 25 %, i t d o e s n ’t , w h a t I ’m h ea r i ng s t a f f , M r . G e r h a r d t a n d Ms . A a n e n s o n s a y i s , i t d o e s n ’t h a v e t o b e t h e r e d i f i t ’s , i f y o u b e l i e v e i n t e r m s o f s a f e l y d r i v i ng i n a n d o u t o f y o u r d r i v e w a y y o u w a n t t o k ee p s o m e o f t h e r e d u p b y t h e d r i v e w a y b u t r e m o v e s o m e t h i ng e l s e s o m e w h e r e e l s e o n t h e p r o p e r t y , t h a t t h a t w o u l d m ee t t h e r e qu i r e m e n t s . I s t h a t , a m I s t a t i n g t h a t c o r r ec t l y ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s c o r r ec t . I f y o u l oo k o n t h e s li d e , o u r g o a l i s t o g e t t o t h e 1 ,03 9 s qu a r e f ee t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : Y ea h , s o . D o e s t h a t ? T o d d G e r h a r d t : Y ea h , a n d t o a n s w e r y o u r qu e s t i o n , I’m f o l l o w i ng y o u . O n ce y o u g e t t h e ac t u a l s u r v e y c o m p l e t e d y o u m a y w a n t t o h a v e a f a l l b ac k p l a n o n t h e d r i v e w a y b eca u s e w h e n y o u l oo k a t t h e r e d o n t h e d r i v e w a y , a n d y o u l oo k a t t h e s i z e o f t h e f i r e p i t a n d t h e l i t t l e p a t i o n e x t t o i t , h a v i ng t h o s e t w o t a k e n o u t p r o b a b l y i s n ’t g o i n g t o m a t c h e x ac t l y t o t h e r e d a r e a i n t h e d r i v e w a y . S o y o u m a y w a n t t o l oo k a t r e c o n f i gu r i n g t h a t d r i v e w a y a l i t t l e b i t a l s o . B u t y o u k n o w i t ’s t h e 25 % i s k i nd o f t h e r u l e t h a t w e ’r e f o l l o w i n g s o I w o u l d s t a r t l oo k i n g a t p o t e n t i a ll y a n o t h e r a l t e r n a t i v e a r ea a n d d o t h e b e s t m a t h y o u ca n . F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h , I m e a n w e ’d p r o b a b l y d o t h a t a f t e r t h e a s -b u i l t s u r v e y . K a t e A a n e n s o n : W e l l l e t m e j u s t b r i n g s o m e t h i n g b ac k . W e l e t a p e r m i t i s s u e t h a t ’s n o t m e e t i n g i t s o I j u s t k i n d o f w a n t t o u n d e r s t a n d . W e h a d n ’t d o n e t h a t b e f o r e . W h e r e v e r t h e c o u n c il ’s f e e l i ng a b o u t t h a t a n d y o u k n o w a g a i n w e i ss u e d i t i n g oo d f a i t h t h a t t h e y ’r e g o i n g t o t r y t o m ee t i t a n d I’m h op i n g t h a t t h e y ’r e s t i l l t r y i n g t o m e e t i t . F r e d B r un i ng : N o , n o w e ’r e . T o d d G e r h a r d t : I h ea r t h e y a r e K a t e . F r e d B r un i ng : T h i s i s n ’t a d v e r s a r i a l . I’m s o rr y i f y ou ’r e t a k i n g i t t h a t w a y . K a t e A a n e n s o n : O k a y , y e a h . F r e d B r un i ng : L i k e I s a i d , v e r y ea r l y o n i n t h e p r o ce ss y o u k n o w p a r t o f m y j o b i s t o b e c r ea t i v e . I m e t w i t h t h e c i t y w a y b e f o r e w e w e r e g o i n g t o e v e n a p p l y f o r a p e r m i t y o u k n o w i n S e p t e m b e r a n d l a i d o u t s o m e d i f f e r e n t s t e p s . W h a t w e w e r e p r o p o s i n g t o d o . T h r o ug h a c o ll a b o r a t i o n o f g o i n g b ac k a n d f o r t h , t h i s i s w h a t w e ca m e up w i t h . E v e r y t h i ng w a s f i n e . O k a y , t h i s i s w h a t w e ’r e g o i n g t o d o . W e ’r e g o i n g t o a pp l y f o r a v a r i a n c e y o u k n o w a n d s o y e a h , I m ea n w e w e r e g o i n g t o r e qu e s t t h i s b e i n g a h a r d s h i p . Y o u k n o w i t w a s u n d e r s t o o d a n d i f t h e p r e -e x i s t i n g c o n d i t i o n s a r e d e e m e d a h a r d s h i p a n d i s r u l e d i n o u r f a v o r , g r ea t . I f i t ’s n o t , h e r e ’s t h e f a l l b ac k p o s i t i o n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . H e l p u s u n d e r s t a n d t h e n , t o c l a r i f y I t h i n k i t w o u l d h e l p , w h a t t h e h a r d s h i p o r h a r d s h i p f ac t o r s a r e . W h a t a r e t h e s p e c i a l h a r d s h i p f ac t o r s ? 61 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 42 F r e d B r un i ng : O k a y , I’ll , t o a n s w e r y o u r . I w a s g o i n g t o g e t t o t h a t b u t I’l l g e t o u t o f s e qu e n ce h e r e a n d c o v e r t h a t . I n m y n a rr a t i v e , a n d I’ll h a v e t o f i nd i t h e r e . T h i s o n e h e r e . T h e r e a r e v a r i a t i o n s o n t h e t h e m e . I f y o u l o ok o n p a g e 3 , t h e s ec o n d p a r a g r a p h . T h a t e x p l a i n s t h e h a r d s h i p a n d I ca n r ea d i t i n t o t h e r ec o r d i f y ou ’d l i k e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W h y d o n ’t y o u g o a h ea d f o r t h o s e w a t c h i n g a t h o m e . F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h . F o r t h e l i t t l e k i d s a t h o m e . B eca u s e o f t h e s h a p e a n d t o p o g r a ph y o f t h e i r l o t m y c l i e n t s n ee d t o u s e p r ec i o u s h a r d c o v e r f o r a n a t y p i c a ll y l o n g d r i v e w a y t o acce ss t h e i r h o m e a n d r e t a i n i ng w a ll p a t i o s y s t e m , d r a i n s y s t e m t o p r o t ec t i t . T h r ee p r o p e r t i e s t o t h e s o u t h h a v e d r i v e w a y s l o n g e r t h a n m y c l i e n t s . E ac h h a s a t u r n a b o u t . H o w e v e r t h e y a r e n ea r l e v e l l o t s . T w o h a v e f l a g l o t e x e m p t i o n s t o t h e h a r d c o v e r r e q u i r e m e n t . T h e r e m a i n i ng i s a m u c h l a r g e r p r o p e r t y . T o t h e ea s t a r e t h e o n l y t w o l o t s w i t h i n 500 f e e t t h a t h a v e a n e l e v a t i o n c h a n g e g r ea t e r t h a n t h i s p r o p e r t y . H o w e v e r i t i s o n l y s l i g h t l y g r e a t e r a n d o v e r a l o n g e r d i s t a n ce . T h i s p r o p e r t y i s u n i qu e t h a t i t h a s b o t h o f t h e s e e l e m e n t s c o m b i n e d o n a s i n g l e p a r c e l . C o m b i n e d o n a p a r ce l t h a t i s s u b s t a n t i a ll y s m a l l e r t h a n a n y o f t h e m . T h e l o t s i ze c o m b i n e d w i t h t h e s h a p e a n d t o p o g r a ph y i s t h e h a r d s h i p . I t ’s n o t s e l f c r ea t e d a n d t h e w i ll i n g n e s s t o acce p t a h a r d s h i p d o e s n ’t n e g a t e o r c r e a t e i t . A s p a r t o f t h a t d i s c u s s i o n , o n p a g e 11 . S e c t i o n 18 -21 . B u il d i ng p e r m i t s . I t t a l k s a b o u t v a r i a n ce s a n d i n h a r d s h i p i s t h a t h a r d s h i p s a r e n o t m e r e i n c o n v e n i e n ce s . T h e t u r n a b o u t o n , t o h a v e a t u r n a b o u t i s n ’t j u s t a c o nv e n i e n t t h i n g w h e n y o u h a v e a 140 f o o t d r i v e w a y . I t ’s a c t u a l l y p r e t t y i n c o n v e n i e n t t o b ac k d o w n a 1 4 0 d r i v e w a y . T h e p a t i o p a v e r s y s t e m i n t h e b ac k o f t h e h o u s e i s p r o t e c t i o n f o r t h e h o u s e . I m e a n t h e y ’r e n o t d o i n g i t o u t o f c o n v e n i e n ce . T h e y ’r e d o i n g i t o u t o f p r o p e r t y p r e s e r v a t i o n . W e ’r e s ub m i tt i n g t h a t t h e s e , b eca u s e o f t h e s h a p e o f t h e l o t , y o u k n o w h o w f a r t h e h o m e h a s t o b e s e t o f f t h e s t r ee t , t h a t t h a t 4 6 f ee t o f g r a d e c h a n g e i n t h e b ac k o f t h e h o m e m a k e t h i s l o t un i q u e t o a n y t h i ng w i t h i n 500 f ee t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . I t h i n k w h a t I’m h ea r i n g i s, i s a s t h e s h a p e a n d t h e t o p o g r a ph y o f t h e l o t t h a t y o u ’r e s a y i ng i s t h e h a r d s h i p i n t h i s ca s e . F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h , a n d i n S ec t i o n 18 -22 I t h i n k y o u k n o w i t s a y s t h a t t h e h a r d s h i p i s ca u s e d b y p a r t i c u l a r ph y s i ca l s u rr o u n d i n g s , s h a p e o r t o p o g r a ph y , c o n d i t i o n s o f t h e l a n d . A n d t h a t ’s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . O k a y . A n y t h i n g e l s e y o u w a n t e d t o s h a r e w i t h u s a t t h i s p o i n t ? T h e n w e m a y h a v e s o m e qu e s t i o n s . F r e d B r un i ng : A n d ac t u a l l y , I m e a n t h i s i s w o r k i ng f i n e i f y o u w a n t t o a s k qu e s t i o n s a l o n g t h e w a y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a t ’s f i n e . I j u s t w a n t t o m a k e s u r e w e k ee p m o v i ng a n d y o u g e t a n o p p o r t u n i t y t o p r e s e n t e v e r y t h i ng y o u w a n t t o s o I d o n ’t w a n t t o c u t y o u s h o r t . F r e d B r un i ng : I f y o u c o n t i n u e o n t o p a g e 2 . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : C a n I a s k j u s t a qu e s t i o n ? B ac k up f o r j u s t a s ec o n d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : S u r e . 62 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 43 C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : O n e o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t y o u m e n t i o n e d i s t h a t t h e p a v e r s a r e p r o t e c t i n g t h e p r o p e r t y a n d p r e s e r v i ng t h e p r o p e r t y . I n w h a t w a y a r e t h e y p r e s e r v i ng t h e p r o p e r t y ? F r e d B r un i ng : W h e n M a r k a n d A n n b o ug h t t h e i r h o m e t h e r e w a s n o t h i n g b ac k t h e r e . I t w a s j u s t y o u k n o w t h e g r a d e . I n t h e f i r s t f e w y ea r s t h e y w e r e t h e r e , t h e h i ll , I m e a n j u s t r a i n w a t e r w o u l d e r o d e t h e h i l l a n d w a s h i t o u t . I m e a n l o t s o f s o i l I a ss u m e e n d e d up i n L a k e M i nn e w a s h t a . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : S o f r o m e r o s i o n m o r e o r l e ss ? F r e d B r un i ng : E r o s i o n . T o d d G e r h a r d t : I t w a s a g r a v e l d r i v e w a y i s w h a t y o u ’r e s a y i n g ? F r e d B r un i ng : O h n o . T h i s i s t h e , s h e w a s a s k i ng a b o u t t h e p a v e r s i n t h e b ac k o f t h e h o m e . T o d d G e r h a r d t : O h , b ac k y a r d . M a r k A m b r o s e n : T h e p r e v i o u s o w n e r w a s a V i k i n g s f o o t b a l l p l a y e r a n d h e h a d c u t d o w n a l l t h e t r ee s e x i s t i n g o n t h e h i ll a t a b o u t a 6 f o o t l e v e l s o h e h a d a g r ea t v i e w . S u b s e qu e n t l y w e h a d s o m e s e r i o u s e r o s i o n s o w e s t a r t e d a t t ac k i n g , a n d t h i s i s w h a t I t h i n k t h e y o u n g l a d y w a s r e f e r r i n g t o w h e n w e s t a r t e d g e t t i n g o f f o n t h e s i d e c o nv e r s a t i o n s i n t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n . B u t i t a l s o a dd r e ss e s s o m e o f t h e h a r d c o v e r t h a t w e pu t b ac k t h e r e . W e b u i l t o u t t h e p a t i o . A s y o u s ee t h e p r e t t y t a ll r e t a i n i ng w a ll s b ac k t h e r e . W e b u i l t t h o s e a n d s o m e o f t h e s m a l l e r w i n g w a ll s a s y o u go d o w n t h a t h i l l . W e l e t a l l t h e t r ee s g r o w , e s p e c i a ll y t h e f a s t g r o w i n g m a p l e s a n d s o m e o f t h e o t h e r s . W e p l a n t e d a l o t o f v e g e t a t i o n t r y i n g t o g e t t h a t t o g o . W e ll K e n n e t h w e n t b ac k a n d f o r t h . T h e v e g e t a t i o n t o o k h o l d . T r ee s g r e w up r ea l t a ll . T h e n w e h a d a r e a l t h i c k ca n op y . V e g e t a t i o n ce a s e t o g r o w . W e pu t i n a c o u p l e m o r e h o l d i ng w a ll s o n t h e h il l a n d w e d i d t h i n o u t s o m e o f t h e t r ee s o n e i t h e r s i d e w i t h t h e i n t e n t o f l e t t i n g t h e s u n g o b ac k i n . G e t t i n g w a t e r i n . P u t t i n g m o r e v e g e t a t i o n b ac k t h e r e . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : S o w h a t ’s t h e s qu a r e f o o t a g e o f t h e h a r d s u r f ace t h a t y o u p u t i n t o p r e v e n t e r o s i o n ? M a r k A m b r o s e n : I t h i n k t h a t w a s 7 .8 . F r e d B r un i ng : I t h i n k 7 -23 . T h a t y o u k n o w t o a ll o w t h a t , t o a l l o w a n e x e m p t i o n f o r t h a t p o r t i o n o f i t ac t u a l l y r e s o l v e s t h e w h o l e i s s u e . E v e r y t h i n g e l s e c a n g o b ac k i n a n d w e c a n m i t i g a t e t h e h a r d c o v e r i f t h a t ’s c o n s i d e r e d a n e x e m p t i o n . I m e a n t h a t e l im i n a t e s o u r i ss u e . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : O k a y , t h a n k y o u . M a r k A m b r o s e n : O n e o f t h e o p t i o n s g i v e n t o u s w a s r e p l ace t h a t p a v e r s t o n e i n t h e b ac k w i t h d ec k i n g b eca u s e t h e n t h a t w o u l d n o t , t h a t c o n s t i t u t e a n o n -h a r d c o v e r s u r f ace I b e l i e v e . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : W o u l d t h a t s e r v e t h e s a m e pu r p o s e f o r e r o s i o n ? 63 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 44 M a r k A m b r o s e n : N o . N o , i t w o u l d n ’t . B eca u s e t h e n t h e w a t e r w o u l d j u s t g o r i g h t t h r o ug h . F r e d B r un i ng : I f y o u h a d l i k e a 4 f o o t r e t a i n i ng w a l l o r s o m e t h i ng , y e a h i t w o u l d m a k e a d i ff e r e n c e . I m e a n i f t h a t ’s o p e n s o i l a n d i t c o u l d d r a i n e v e r y t h i ng , b u t t h i s i s o v e r 30 f ee t t a ll . I m e a n a s s oo n a s t h e s o i l g e t s s a t u r a t e d , I m e a n j u s t t h e p r e ss u r e o n t h a t w a ll w i t h t h a t c o l u m n o f w a t e r . I t w a s e n g i n ee r e d t o a c t u a l l y t a k e t h e w a t e r p a s t t h e s l o p e o f t h e h il l a n d d i s c h a r g e i t o n t o , i n t o a l o w e r e l e v a t i o n . S i n ce i t w a s d o n e t h e y h a v e n ’t h a d a n y e r o s i o n p r o b l e m s . I m e a n i t s o l v e d t h e p r o b l e m . S o I m e a n t h e y ’r e k i nd o f r e l u c t a n t t o r e m o v e t h a t . I t ’s w o r k e d f o r 10 y ea r s . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : O k a y . T h a n k y o u . S o rr y , I d i d n ’t m ea n t o i n t e rr up t . F r e d B r un i ng : N o . N o , t h a t ’s f i n e . O n p a g e 2 t o w a r d s t h e b o tt o m . L i n e n u m b e r 5 . M a r k a dd r e ss e d a l i t t l e b i t o f t h a t t h e r e . Y o u k n o w t h e , a n d I’m s u r e t h e y ’r e w i ll i ng t o p r o v i d e m o r e g r o u n d c o v e r . A t y p e o f g r o u n d c o v e r t h a t y o u f i n d s u i t a b l e . H o w e v e r I m ea n y o u c o u l d t a l k t o M r . J e ff e r y . T h a t m a k e s n o im p ac t . I m e a n t h a t ’s n o t a c o n s i d e r a t i o n f o r h a r d c o v e r . I m e a n h a r d c o v e r i s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I s h a r d c o v e r . F r e d B r un i ng : I t d o e s n ’t m a k e a n y d i ff e r e n c e i f t h a t ’s a b a rr e n s a n d l o t o r i f i t ’s go t a f o r e s t o f t r ee s. Y o u k n o w t h e y ac t d i f f e r e n t a s f a r a s r u n o f f b u t t h e c i t y c o d e d o e s n ’t r e c o gn i ze a d i ff e r e n c e . I t h i n k M r . J e ff e r y i s ac t u a l l y w o r k i n g o n s o m e t h i n g s i n t h a t b u t i t d o e s n ’t h e l p u s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . F r e d B r un i ng : I gu e ss i t ’s i n t h e p a g e 3 t o w a r d s t h e b o tt o m . O p t i o n s . I m e a n y o u k n o w I s p e ll e d o u t 4 t h i n g s I ’d li k e y o u g u y s t o c o n s i d e r . I m e a n o bv i o u s l y t h e f i r s t o n e i s i f y o u r ec o gn i ze a h a r d s h i p . Y o u k n o w t o g r a n t t h e v a r i a n ce . T h e s ec o n d o n p a g e 4 , t h e s ec o n d i t e m i s w h a t V i c k i w a s I t h i n k k i nd o f a ll u d i ng t o . T o g r a n t a n e x e m p t i o n f o r , t o t h e h a r d c o v e r c a l c u l a t i o n s f o r li k e t h e n e c e s s a r y f ea t u r e s o f t h e p r o p e r t y . T h a t r e t a i n i ng w a ll , p a t i o s y s t e m t h a t p r o t e c t s t h e i r h il l . Y o u k n o w t h e c i t y a l r ea d y r ec o gn i z e s s i mi l a r e x e m p t i o n s f o r t h i n g s li k e s w i mm i ng p oo l s . D r i v e w a y s o n f l a g l o t s. W h e n y o u g e t i n t o c o m m e r c i a l p r o p e r t i e s y o u a l l o w m u c h m o r e h a r d c o v e r f o r a c o mm e r c i a l p r o p e r t y t h a n y o u d o a r e s i d e n t i a l p r o p e r t y . S o t h a t ’s a s ec o n d i t e m I ’d li k e y o u t o c o n s i d e r . N u m b e r 3 i s , a n d li k e I s a y M r . J e ff e r y i s w o r k i n g o n s o m e o f t h e s e t h i n g s b u t r e qu e s t t h a t y o u l oo k a t o t h e r m ea n s o f m i t i g a t i n g h a r d c o v e r . I f t h e s p i r i t o f t h e c o d e i s t o p r o t e c t o u r w a t e r r e s o u r ce s. T o k ee p t h e s o il s f r o m w a s h i ng i n , p r e v e n t e r o s i o n , t h e r e ’s a l o t o f w a y s t o d o t h a t t h a t a r e n ’t r ec o gn i z e d b y t h e c u rr e n t c i t y c o d e . I f y o u l oo k a t p a g e 9 , i n m y o r i g i n a l n a rr a t i v e , i t e m 3 (a ) t o 3 (g ). I m e a n t a l k a b o u t s o m e o f t h e m . T h e r e ’s m o r e p e r m e a b l e d r i v e w a y , p a t i o s u r f a c e s a v a i l a b l e a n d t h e U o f M A r b o r e t u m h a s b e e n t e s t i n g t h e s e , b u t y o u g u y s d o n ’t h a v e a n y d a t a o n i t . A n d s o li k e p e r m e a b l e p a v e r s , a ll t h o s e t h i n g s a r e , d o n ’t qu a l i f y , e v e n t h o ug h t h e y w o u l d i m p r o v e t h e s i t u a t i o n . T h e r e ’s a p o r t i o n o f t h e i r p r o p e r t y t h a t t h e s h e d a t t h e l a k e i s c o n s i d e r e d h a r d c o v e r e v e n t h o ug h i t ’s e l e v a t e d o f f t h e g r o u n d b e c a u s e w a t e r ca n ’t g e t u n d e r n ea t h t h e s h e d . T o p u t d o w n s p o u t s o n t h e s h e d a n d pu s h t h e w a t e r u n d e r n ea t h i t w o u l d a l s o m a k e t h a t a p e r m e a b l e s u r f a ce . Y o u k n o w t h a t ’s n o t r ec o g n i ze d . I 64 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 45 m e a n M a r k a n d A n n a r e t r y i ng t o c o m e up w i t h s o l u t i o n s t o g e t a t w h a t t h e w h o l e p o i n t o f t h e h a r d c o v e r c o d e i s a n d t h e y ’r e w i ll i ng t o p u t e f f o r t , p u t m o n e y f o r w a r d t o d o t h a t . W e ’r e j u s t a s k i ng y o u t o c o n s i d e r t h o s e o p t i o n s . H o l d i n g p o nd s . Y o u r e qu i r e t h o s e o n c o mm e r c i a l p r o p e r t i e s . T h e y ’d b e w ill i ng t o d o o n e h e r e . D r a i n f i e l d s . T a k i n g d o w n s p o u t s . D i s p e r s i ng t h a t w a t e r o v e r l a r g e r a r ea . D i s p e r s i ng i t t o a r ea s t h a t a r e a c t u a l l y c o v e r e d b y h a r d s u r f a c e s . A l l o w i ng w a t e r t o b e u n d e r a h a r d s u r f a c e . P u t t i ng a d r a i n f i e l d u n d e r n ea t h a d r i v e w a y . P u t t i n g a d r a i n f i e l d u n d e r n ea t h a p a t i o . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : I s t h a t t h e s a m e a s d r a i n t il e ? F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h , s i m i l a r . Y ea h , v e r y s imi l a r . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : O k a y . F r e d B r un i ng : W e p r o p o s e d g r a n t i n g ea s e m e n t s . T h e n e i g h b o r t o t h e n o r t h a n d ea s t o f t h e m , h ug e l o t . I m e a n y o u k n o w h a r d c o v e r i s p r o b a b l y 7 %. B u t t o a l l o w t h e m t o d o a n ea s e m e n t t o t h e i r p r o p e r t y t o s p r ea d o u t t h e i r h a r d c o v e r o n t o t h a t a d j o i n i n g p r o p e r t y . T h a t i s n ’t a l l o w e d . O n e I ac t u a l l y k i nd o f li k e b eca u s e i t s o l v e s a l o t o f p r o b l e m s i s ac t u a l l y d o i n g a c i s t e r n . Y o u ’r e t r y i n g t o m i t i g a t e y o u k n o w s t o r m w a t e r . W a t e r t h a t i n a s h o r t p e r i o d o f t im e y o u h a v e a l a r g e w a t e r v o l u m e t o h a n d l e . T o b u r y a c i s t e r n . A b u r i e d t a n k i n t h e g r o u n d t h a t ca n d i s p e r s e t h e w a t e r o v e r a l o n g p e r i o d o f t im e . R u n d o w n s p o u t s t o t h e h o u s e i n t o i t . P u t t h e ca t c h b a s i n , a d r a i n i n f o r . T h e t h i n g t h a t ’s n i c e a b o u t t h a t i s y o u ca n a l s o u s e i t f o r i r r i g a t i o n . Y o u ca n w a t e r y o u r l a w n a n d u s e l e s s c i t y w a t e r . T h e r e ’s o t h e r t h i ng s . I m e a n s o i l t y p e s . Y o u k n o w g r o u n d c o v e r . D i ff e r e n t t h i n g s y o u c a n d o w i t h p i t c h a n d g r a d e a n d b e r m s . T h e un f o r t u n a t e t h i n g i s n o n e o f t h o s e t h i n g s a r e r ec o gn i ze d . M a r k a n d A n n a r e w i ll i ng t o , i f y o u c h oo s e , b e a t e s t ca s e . I m e a n i t ’s b ee n s ugg e s t e d n o n e o f t h e s e t h i ng s c a n b e m o n i t o r e d . T h e t ec h n o l og y i s t o m o n i t o r a l l o f t h e s e . M y f a v o r i t e , t h e c i s t e r n i d ea i s v e r y s i m p l e . R e m o v e t h e c o v e r . T a k e a w a t e r d e p t h r ea d i n g y o u k n o w a f t e r r a i n . F i n d o u t h o w qu i c k l y i t ’s d i ss i p a t i n g . P u n c h m o r e h o l e s i n t h e b o tt o m i f y o u w a n t i t t o d i ss i p a t e f u r t h e r . Y o u k n o w f a s t e r . S o t h e y ’r e w i ll i ng t o c o n s i d e r t h a t a s a w a y t o m i t i g a t e . A n o t h e r t h i n g i s p ea g r a v e l h a s b ee n s ugg e s t e d . W e ’v e ac t u a l l y d o n e t h a t a s a m i t i g a t i n g f ac t o r f o r t h e i r d o g k e n n e l . T o u s e p ea g r a v e l i n s t ea d o f a h a r d p a v e r s y s t e m . T h a t ’s a l s o s o m e t h i ng t h a t p o s s i b l y c ou l d b e u s e d a s a t u r n a b o u t f o r a d r i v e w a y . D o w n s i d e t o t h a t i s , i t ’s n o t a h a r d s u r f ace . I t ’s h a r d t o s n o w p l o w t h a t . Y o u k n o w t h e s t o n e s . T h e s m a l l s t o n e s a r e b a d y o u k n o w b eca u s e t h e y g e t w a s h e d d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y . E n d up i n t h e s t o r m s e w e r . T h e o n l y t h i n g w o r s t f o r a s t o r m s e w e r t h a n s a n d i s p ea g r a v e l . I t j u s t ca t c h e s i n a ll t h e l o w s p o t s. I gu e ss t h e o n e l a s t p o i n t I ’d li k e t o m a k e i s , a n d I t h i n k B l oo mi ng t o n ’s g o i n g t o a d o p t a 25 % h a r d c o v e r r u l e a l s o b u t f r o m m y k n o w l e dg e I t h i n k C h a n h a s s e n ’s t h e o n l y o n e w h o r e q u i r e s 25 %. S h o r e w o o d , M o u n d . I m e a n M o und e v e n h a s a 40 % f o r s o m e l o t s. H a r d c o v e r . 25 p e r ce n t ’s p r e t t y t o ug h . I gu e ss t h a t ’s m y p o i n t s. D o y o u h a v e a n y qu e s t i o n s ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . A n y q u e s t i o n s o f M r . B r un i n g ? I gu e ss t h e , y o u k n o w t h e qu e s t i o n b e f o r e u s h e r e i s t h e h a r d s h i p . Y o u b r o ug h t up r ea s o n a b l e u s e a n d I t h i n k t h a t ’s r e a l l y w h e r e i t c o m e s d o w n t o . W h a t i s t h e r ea s o n a b l e u s e c r ea t i ng t h i s s i t u a t i o n t h a t w e ’r e h e r e t h i s e v e n i ng s o . 65 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 46 C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : I t h i n k o n e o f m y c o mm e n t s w o u l d b e , ea r li e r w e d i s c u s s e d t h a t t h e i t e m s p r o p o s e d b y s t a f f i n r e d . K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t w a s t h e a p p li c a n t . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : W a s t h a t t h e a pp li c a n t ? T h a t m a y b e t h o s e n ee d t o b e w o r k e d o n a l i tt l e b i t m o r e . I s t h a t c o r r e c t ? T h e a p p li c a n t s e e m e d w il l i ng t o r e c o n s i d e r s o m e o r t o m o v e t o g i v e a n d t a k e s o m e o r I ’m t r y i ng t o f i gu r e o u t w h a t I h ea r d a b o u t 2 0 mi nu t e s a g o r e g a r d i n g t h a t i s s u e . F r e d B r un i ng : S u r e . W e p r o p o s e d w h a t ’s i n r e d i n c o n s u l t a t i o n w i t h t h e c li e n t . H o w e v e r t h e y ’v e h a d a d u m p s t e r i n t h e d r i v e w a y a t t h e t u r n a b o u t . T h e y ’v e h a d t o b ac k d o w n t h i s d r i v e w a y a n d t h e y r e a l i ze d y o u k n o w h o w d i f f i c u l t t h a t i s . I n w e i g h i ng t h a t a l l o u t t h e f i r e p i t n ea r t h e l a k e i s l e s s im p o r t a n t y o u k n o w t h a n h a v i n g t h e t u r n a b o u t a n d s o t h e y ’r e w i ll i ng t o p u t t h a t h a r d c o v e r b ac k i n t o t h e t u r n a b o u t . I f ea r w h e n i t ’s a ll s a i d a n d d o n e , a s y o u ca n s ee f r o m t h e d r a w i n g , i t ’s n o t e n o ug h s p ace . I t ’s n o t e n o u gh m i t i g a t i o n . W e ’r e n o t g o i n g t o h a v e e n o ug h g r o u n d , e n o ug h h a r d s u r f ace f r o m t h e f i r e p i t t o c r ea t e t h a t t u r n a b o u t . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : O k a y . J u s t s o I’m c l a r i f i e d t h e n . T h i s i s t h e p r o p o s a l a n d t h e r e ’s n o t h i n g e l s e o n t h e t a b l e f o r u s t o c o n s i d e r , o r f o r y o u t o c o n s i d e r t o n i g h t ? W h e n i t c o m e s t o t h i s v a r i a n ce . F r e d B r un i ng : I t h i n k , w e l l I t h i n k I’v e g i v e n y o u a l o t o f t h i n g s t o c o n s i d e r . F o r u s w e t r i e d t o w o r k up t h e b e s t t h i n g a n d I t h i n k M a r k a n d A n n a r e g o i n g t o s ac r i f i ce t h e i r f i r e p i t t o a d d a s m u c h t u r n a b o u t a s t h e y c a n b u t li k e I s a y , m y f ea r i s t h a t i t w o n ’t b e e n o ug h . T h a t t h e r e ’s n o t m a n y o t h e r , w e ’v e t a k e n o u t a b o u t a n y t h i ng w e c o u l d t h i n k o f t o t a k e o u t . R o g e r K n u t s o n : M a y o r , m e m b e r s o f t h e c o u n c i l . T h i s p l a n i s n o t a r e qu i r e m e n t . T h e r e q u i r e m e n t i s t o , a t l e a s t t h e r ec o mm e n d a t i o n o f s t a f f a n d t h e P l a nn i ng C o mmi ss i o n i s t o g e t d o w n t o t h e r e qu i r e d 24 o r 25 % h a r d c o v e r a g e . H o w y o u g e t t h e r e i s up t o y o u . D o i t . W h e t h e r i t ’s t h i s o r s o m e t h i ng e l s e . T h a t ’s t h e r ec o mm e n d a t i o n . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : A n d s o j u s t t o t h e p o i n t o f c l a r i f i ca t i o n f o r m e t h e n , w h a t a m I v o t i n g o n t o n i g h t ? W h e t h e r t h e y s h ou l d d o t h a t ? O r w h e t h e r t h i s i s w h a t t h e y s h ou l d d o o r ? I ’m c o n f u s e d a b o u t . R o g e r K n u t s o n : N o . T h e qu e s t i o n i s d o y o u g r a n t t h e m a v a r i a n ce o r d o n ’t y o u . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : O k a y . R o g e r K n u t s o n : I f t h e a n s w e r i s n o . N o v a r i a n c e i s g r a n t e d . T h e n t h e y h a v e t o g e t t o 25 %. I f y o u g r a n t a v a r i a n c e , t h e n i t d e p e n d s o n h o w m u c h y o u g r a n t . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : O k a y . 66 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 47 M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n y o t h e r qu e s t i o n s ? F o r M r . B r un i ng a t t h i s p o i n t . I f n o t , t h a n k y o u . I t h i n k w e ’l l b r i ng i t b ac k t o , un l e ss t h e r e ’s a n yb od y e l s e t h a t w a n t s t o c o mm e n t o n t h i s . I d o n ’t s ee a n yb od y e l s e . M r . A m b r o s e , d o y o u w a n t t o s a y a n y t h i ng e l s e ? M a r k A m b r o s e : N o , I t h i n k i t ’s p r e t t y c l ea r t h a t w e ’r e r e qu e s t i n g a v a r i a n ce t o e x cee d t h e 25 % b u t a s l i t t l e a s p o s s i b l e . We w o u l d g e t r i d o f e v e r y t h i n g a n d i f w e c ou l d k ee p t h e t u r n a r o u n d i n t h e d r i v e w a y . S o w h a t t h a t w o u l d w i n d up b e i ng I’m n o t s u r e . F r e d B r un i ng : Y ea h , a n d li k e I s a y , I m e a n t h e y ’v e t a k e n o u t e v e r y t h i ng t h e y p o s s i b l y c ou l d t a k e o u t . T h i n g s w e ’v e d o n e i n t h e a d d i t i o n t o mi n im i ze t h a t . I m e a n t a k i n g o u t t h e i r d o g k e n n e l . I m e a n t h e y ’v e s t r i pp e d o u t a s m u c h a s t h e y c a n a n d y o u k n o w t h i s i s w h e r e t h e y ’r e a t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : B u t f o r c l a r i f i ca t i o n t h o ug h , t h e y ’r e b u il d i ng a n a d d i t i o n o n t o t h e i r h o u s e . T h e y ’r e a d d i ng 800 s qu a r e f ee t . F r e d B r un i ng : C o rr e c t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : S o i t s a y t h e y ’r e t a k i n g i t o u t , I t h i nk w h a t ’s c r ea t i n g t h i s i ss u e i s t h e d e s i r e t o e x p a n d . M a r k A m b r o s e n : O h a b s o l u t e l y . A b s o l u t e l y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . M a r k A m b r o s e n : A b s o l u t e l y . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . F r e d B r un i ng : W e ’r e j u s t s ugg e s t i n g t h a t i t ’s a h a r d s h i p t h a t t h e y h a v e t o h a v e t h e s e h a r d c o v e r s u r f ac e s o n t h e i r p r o p e r t y t h a t o t h e r p r o p e r t i e s d o n ’t h a v e t o h a v e b e ca u s e t h e i r t o p o g r a ph y i s d i ff e r e n t . B eca u s e t h e i r s h a p e i s d i f f e r e n t . T h e p r o p e r t i e s t h a t d o h a v e t o h a v e a l o n g e r d r i v e w a y , y o u k n o w w i t h i n 500 f ee t , h a v e t u r n a b o u t ’s . T h i s i s t h e o n l y o n e o f t h i s l e n g t h t h a t w o u l d n o t h a v e o n e i n t h i s 500 f ee t . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : A r e y o u a l r ea d y c o m m i tt e d t o t h e d e s i g n . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t ’s u n d e r c o n s t r u c t i o n . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : I t ’s u n d e r c o n s t r u c t i o n . O k a y . F r e d B r un i ng : W e ’v e a l r ea d y p u s h e d , t h a t ’s p a r t o f i t t o o . I m e a n f o r h a r d c o v e r , a l o t o f o t h e r r ea s o n s , w e ’v e ac t u a l l y r o t a t e d a n d pu s h e d t h e a dd i t i o n i n t o t h e h o u s e . T a k e n s qu a r e f o o t a g e f r o m t h e h o u s e a w a y t o g e t t h e a d d i t i o n , s o w e ’v e , w e ’v e b e e n p r e t t y c r ea t i v e t r y i ng t o r e du ce a s m u c h a s w e c ou l d . 67 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 48 K a t e A a n e n s o n : J u s t t o c l a r i f y a g a i n . I j u s t w a n t t o m a k e s u r e e v e r yb od y , t h e r e w a s a 3 ca r g a r a g e . T h e y h a d a 3 ca r g a r a g e . F r e d B r un i ng : T h e r e s t i l l i s a 3 ca r g a r a g e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : R i g h t . Y o u c o nv e r t e d o n e o f t h e m t o a l a u n d r y r o o m a n d a dd e d o n s o t h a t w a s p a r t o f t h e a d d i t i o n , s o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d t h e n t h e r e w a s a n o t h e r g a r a g e s t a l l pu t i n t o r e p l ace t h e o n e … K a t e A a n e n s o n : R i g h t , s o t h a t w a s t h e a d d i t i o n p a r t . T h e 800 s qu a r e f ee t . S o I gu e ss t h a t ’s w h e r e w e w e r e t r y i n g t o f i nd t h a t b a l a n ce a n d w h e r e v e r t h e y s h a k e o u t o n t h a t y e a h . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : A n d o n e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : T h i s i s a l l k i nd o f c l ea r a s m ud f o r m e . I j u s t w a n t t o m a k e s u r e I d o t h i n k s r i g h t t o n i g h t . S o i f , s a y t h e c o u n c il d o e s n o t a pp r o v e t h e v a r i a n ce a n d t h e y h a v e t o m ee t t h e i r 25 % a n d t h e y c a n ’t , w h a t h a pp e n s t o t h e i r c o n s t r u c t i o n ? O r w h a t w i l l h a pp e n . R o g e r K n u t s o n : W h a t w i l l h a pp e n i t t h e y w i ll b e r e q u i r e d t o m ee t i t s o m e w a y . I t w ill b e t h e i r d e c i s i o n o n h o w t o m ee t i t . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : A n d t h e y ’r e a t 2 5 .7 % t o d a y , r i g h t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : R i g h t . R i g h t , s o i t ’s t h e a d d i t i o n t h a t ca u s e d t h e . T h e y w e r e a t 2 5 .7 . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : B u t t h e y h a v e n ’t s t a r t e d a n y o f t h e a d d i t i o n . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y e s t h e y h a v e . I t ’s u n d e r c o n s t r u c t i o n . T h a t ’s w h a t I’m s a y i ng , w e i n g oo d f a i t h l e t t h e m p r o cee d . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : S o r r y . O k a y . F r e d B r un i ng : O n e t h i n g I a l s o h a v e y o u c o n s i d e r . W o r s t ca s e s ce n a r i o , i f y o u w a n t t o d e n y e v e r y t h i ng e l s e , h a v e u s m i t i g a t e t h e h a r d c o v e r t h a t w e ’v e a dd e d t o t h e p r o p e r t y . I m e a n d o n ’t h a v e u s y o u k n o w t a k e i t d o w n t o 25 % b e l o w w h e r e w e e v e n s t a r t e d . H a v e u s m i t i g a t e t h e h a r d c o v e r t h a t w e ’v e ac t u a l l y a dd e d t o t h e p r o p e r t y b u t t h e , w h a t w e ’v e a dd e d t o w h a t w e s t a r t e d w i t h . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d t h a t w a s , I’m s o rr y . G o a h e a d . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : W e l l I m e a n t h e b o tt o m li n e i s y o u h a v e , i f w e d e n y , y o u h a v e t o m ee t t h e 25 %. H o w y o u d o t h a t i s up t o y o u . I d o n ’t t h i n k t h a t ’s up t o u s t o t e l l y o u h o w t o d o t h a t . O r w h a t y o u ca n a n d c a n ’t d o . 68 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 49 F r e d B r un i ng : B u t w e s t a r t e d w i t h 25 .7 . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : O h I s ee . F r e d B r un i ng : B e f o r e w e e v e n b u i l t a n a d d i t i o n . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : Y o u w a n t t h e b a s e l i n e t o b e 25 .7 . F r e d B r un i ng : I f e v e r y t h i n g e l s e f a i l s , y e s . I m e a n t h a t ’s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d I gu e ss t h a t w a s t h e qu e s t i o n I h a d a s k e d ea r li e r Ms . A a n e n s o n o f , b e f o r e t h e a d d i t i o n i t w a s 25 .7 . T h e y w e r e a l r ea d y i n v i o l a t i o n o f o u r o r d i n a n ce a n d t h e qu e s t i o n w a s h o w d i d t h e y g e t t h e r e ? Wa s i t t h e o r i g i n a l p e r m i t o r w a s i t ? F r e d B r un i ng : H o w d i d t h e o t h e r 2 0 o u t o f 32 p r op e r t i e s g e t t h e r e? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I’m s o rr y , w e d i s a g r ee o n t h a t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W e ’r e t a l k i ng a b o u t t h i s p r o p e r t y r i g h t n o w a n d . K a t e A a n e n s o n : R i g h t , a n d w e d o n ’t k n o w . I t c o u l d h a v e b ee n a f i r e p i t . I t c o u l d h a v e b e e n s o m e o f t h e r e t a i n i n g w a l l s . I t c o u l d h a v e b e e n t h e d o g p i t y o u k n o w . M a y o r F u r l o n g : P a t i o s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : A l o t o f t h e s e go , c o r r ec t . M a r k A m b r o s e n : E x c u s e m e . H o w l o n g h a s t h i s o r d i n a n ce b e e n o n t h e b oo k s ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I m p e r v i o u s s u r f ac e ? S i n ce I’v e b ee n h e r e i n 1991 . P r i o r t o t h a t . M a r k A m b r o s e n : H o w l o n g h a s i t b e e n e n f o r ce d ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t ’s a l w a y s e n f o r ce d . S o m e t im e s w e d o n ’t k n o w i f p e op l e c u t d o w n t r ee s . M a r k A m b r o s e n : W e h a d a , w e h a d a n a d d i t i o n pu t o n a b o u t 10 y ea r s a g o . 1 1 y ea r s a g o t h a t a dd e d o n t o t h e o t h e r s i d e o f t h e h o u s e , a n d t h e r e w a s n o i n q u i r y t h e n a b o u t t h e h a r d c o v e r . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I ca n ’t s p ea k t o w h a t t h e a pp li c a t i o n w a s , o r w h a t r e v i e w a n d I’m n o t s u r e , i f s o m e b od y c h e c k e d i t o r n o t s o . I ’m p r e t t y c o n f i d e n t s o m e b od y p r o b a b l y d i d . M a r k A m b r o s e n : I w a s t o l d b y a y ou n g l a d y t h a t w a s t a k i n g a l o t o f t h i s i n f o r m a t i o n t h a t t h e c i t y d i d n ’t s t a r t e n f o r c i n g t h i s u n t i l 2 y ea r s a g o . 69 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 50 K a t e A a n e n s o n : N o , w e a s k e d f o r t h e a s -b u i l t s u r v e y s 2 y ea r s a g o . W e ’v e a l w a y s e n f o r ce d t h e 25 %. M a r k A m b r o s e n : W e l l t h a t w a s t h e v e r b o l og y t h a t w a s u s e d t o m e . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : I w a s a c t u a l l y o n t h e p l a nn i ng c o u n c i l m o r e t h a n 3 y e a r s a g o a n d I e n f o r ce d i t v e r y s t r o n g l y s o i t ’s b e e n e n f o r ce d e v e r s i n ce I’v e b e e n h e r e f o r 3 y ea r s a n d b e f o r e t h a t . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : W e l l I t h i n k h e ’s j u s t s a y i ng w h a t w a s t o l d t o h i m . M a r k A m b r o s e n : T h a t w a s t o l d t o m e . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : W e l l I j u s t w a n t t o c l e a r t h e a i r t h a t t h e c i t y w a s . K a t e A a n e n s o n : M a y o r , ca n I g e t b ac k t o t h e qu e s t i o n t h a t w a s a s k e d ? A n d t h a t w a s t h e a d d i t i o n w a s t h e 800 a n d , 848 s qu a r e f ee t . T h a t w a s t h e a d d i t i o n t h a t w e s h o w e d o v e r h e r e . F r e d B r un i ng : I t ’s o n y o u r p r e v i o u s d r a w i n g s . Y ou h a v e i t I t h i n k i n b l u e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : Y ea h . S o t h e r e ’s t h e p r o p o s e d a d d i t i o n s . S o t o g e t , y e a h . A c t u a l l y d r i v e w a y s p ace t o g e t o u t o f t h a t o n e g a r a g e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : W h a t ’s t h e t o t a l s qu a r e f o o t a g e o f t h e h o u s e , e i t h e r b e f o r e o r a f t e r ? B e f o r e t h e a d d i t i o n s ? F r e d B r un i ng : I t ’s o n , I d o n ’t h a v e t h a t p a p e r w o r k . I t ’s i n t h e d o c u m e n t a t i o n t h a t w e s e n t t o t h e c i t y a s f a r a s t h o s e c a l c u l a t i o n s f o r h a r d c o v e r . I t h a s t h e o r i g i n a l h o u s e . K a t e A a n e n s o n : 2779 . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I s t h e f o o t p r i n t ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : T o t a l s qu a r e f o o t a g e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : F i n i s h e d s qu a r e f o o t a g e? K a t e A a n e n s o n : T h a t ’s t h e l o t s i ze . F r e d B r un i ng : M y r ec o ll ec t i o n i s li k e 2 ,500 s qu a r e f ee t i s . I d o n ’t k n o w t h e e x ac t n u m b e r b u t t h a t w o u l d b e a pp r o x im a t e l y w h a t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : F o r a f oo t p r i n t ? F r e d B r un i ng : F o o t p r i n t , c o r r ec t . F oo t p r i n t o f t h e h o u s e . G a r a g e s , y o u k n o w e t c . 70 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 51 T e rr y J e ff e r y : M r . M a y o r i f I m a y . W i t h i n t h e p a c k e t , w h e r e v e r w e ’r e a t . K a t e A a n e n s o n : I t ’s o n p a g e 4 . T e rr y J e ff e r y : Y e a h , i t s a y s m o r e t h a n 27 , 2779 s q u a r e f o o t f oo t p r i n t o f t h e h o m e i t s e l f . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , t h a n k y o u . A n y o t h e r qu e s t i o n s ? I f n o t , t h a n k y o u v e r y m u c h . A pp r e c i a t e i t . L e t ’s b r i n g i t t o c o u n c il f o r d i s c u ss i o n . T r y t o w o r k t h r o ug h t h e i ss u e s b e f o r e u s . W e ’v e g o t c l e a r l y t h e i s s u e b e f o r e u s i s w h e t h e r o r n o t t h e r e ’s a h a r d s h i p . A p p l i c a n t s p r o p o s e t h e s h a p e a n d t o p o g r a ph y i s t h e h a r d s h i p a s w e l l a s s o m e a l t e r n a t i v e s . T h a n k y o u . I ’ll s t a r t j u s t t o m a k e s o m e c o mm e n t s . I b e li e v e i t w a s a t l e a s t 2 y ea r s a g o w e t a l k e d a t l e n g t h a b o u t i m p e r v i o u s s u r f a ce c o v e r a g e a n d w a y s t h a t t h a t c o u l d b e m i t i g a t e d a n d w e s p e n t a n u m b e r o f t im e s a s a c o u n c i l , a l o t o f t h e a l t e r n a t i v e s t h a t w e r e m e n t i o n e d , w e d i s c u s s e d a t t h a t t im e a s w e ll . W e d i d n ’t t a k e a n y ac t i o n o n i t b u t t h o s e w e r e d i s c u s s e d . B u t i n a n y e v e n t w e h a d s o m e a l t e r n a t i v e s pu t f o r t h , a n d I gu e ss I ’d b e i n t e r e s t e d i n w h e r e m e m b e r s o f t h e c o u n c i l a r e i n t e r m s o f t h e , C o u n c ilm a n L i t s e y ? T h o ug h t s . C o mm e n t s. C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : W e l l I t h i n k i t ’s im p o r t a n t t o l o o k a t i t . I t h i n k i t ’s a n e v o l v i ng y o u k n o w w a y t o l oo k a t t h i n g s b u t w e ’r e n o t t h e r e y e t . W e h a v e n ’t r ea l l y l oo k e d a t i t w i t h e n o ug h d a t a a n d i n f o r m a t i o n a n d r ec o mm e n d a t i o n f r o m s t a f f I t h i nk s o , I s t i l l t h i nk w e ’v e go t t o k i n d o f l oo k a t i t f r o m w h e r e w e ’r e a t w i t h t h e o r d i n a n ce c u rr e n t l y s t a n d s . I m e a n t h a t t ec hn o l og y ’s e v o l v i ng a n d I t h i n k w e n ee d t o m o v e i n t h a t d i r ec t i o n b u t w e ’r e n o t t h e r e y e t s o I d o n ’t k n o w t h a t I ca n r e a l l y c o n s i d e r t h a t a t t h i s p o i n t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y . A n y t h i ng e l s e o n t h e r e q u e s t ? C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : W e l l I t h i n k p a r t l y t h e h a r d s h i p w a s c r ea t e d o b v i ou s l y , a s t h e y pu t i t , f r o m t h e a d d i t i o n . I t w a s f i n e b e f o r e . T h e y c h o s e t o m o v e f o r w a r d w i t h i t k n o w i n g t h a t t h i s w a s i n p l ace . P e r s o n a l l y I d o n ’t s ee a n y r ea s o n t o d e v i a t e f r o m s t a ff r ec o mm e n d a t i o n s . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , t h a n k y o u . O t h e r t h o ug h t s ? C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : W e l l I ’d l i k e t o t a l k a b o u t 7 23 s qu a r e f ee t o f h a r d s u r f a c e t h a t w a s i n s t a ll e d t o p r e v e n t e r o s i o n . T h a t t o m e s o u n d s l i k e a h a r d s h i p . 723 s qu a r e f o o t o f h a r d s u r f ace , b u t i t w a s pu t t h e r e f o r a r ea s o n , a n d s o t o m e t h a t s h ou l d , w e s h o u l d l oo k a t t h a t i n t e r m s o f w h a t do w e a l l o w f o r c r e d i t f o r t h a t . S o t h a t ’s o n e o f , t h a t ’s o n e p o i n t . T h e o t h e r o n e i s , I m e a n t h e w h o l e b i g i s s u e i s r u n o f f . T h a t ’s w h a t w e ’r e t a l k i n g a b o u t a n d w e ’v e h a d , t h i s i s n o t t h e f i r s t t im e t h i s i s s u e h a s c o m e b ac k t o c o u n c i l t o l oo k a t . I m e a n w e h a v e a 25 % l im i t o f im p e r v i o u s s u r f ace a n d w e h a v e , w e h a v e a r e s i d e n t w h o h a s c o m e i n a n d t h e y ’r e s a y i ng o k a y , i n o r d e r t o c o m p e n s a t e t h a t w e a r e w i ll i ng t o d o t h e s e t h i n g s a n d I , w h a t i s i t ? 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 o p t i o n s h e r e . A n d i n a d d i t i o n t o t h a t , w h i c h t h e y s o u n d li k e r ea s o n a b l e o p t i o n s t o m e . I n a d d i t i o n t o t h a t t h e y ’r e w i ll i ng t o b e a t e s t f o r a n y o f t h e s e o p t i o n s . A n d I k n o w t h a t w e h a v e t a l k e d a b o u t p e r m e a b l e p a v e r s b e f o r e . Y o u k n o w ca n w e do a p r o j ec t o n t h a t ? W e h a v e n ’t d o n e , I d o n ’t t h i n k w e ’v e d o n e a n y t h i ng w i t h t h a t y e t , b u t t h e y ’r e w il l i ng t o b e a t e s t f o r t h a t . M a y b e t h i s i s a n o p p o r t u n i t y . I d o n ’t k n o w . B u t I m ea n t h e y ’v e , I t h i nk t h a t t h e y ’v e g i v e n u s a l o t o f i n f o r m a t i o n 71 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 52 w h e r e w e h a v e s o m e v a r i o u s o p t i o n s a n d i f w e w o u l d b e w i ll i ng t o g i v e t h e m t h e o p p o r t un i t y t o do t h a t , w h i c h I t h i n k w e s h ou l d , I w o u l d b e i n f a v o r o f g r a n t i n g a v a r i a n ce . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , t h a n k y o u . O t h e r t h o ug h t s ? C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r nh o m . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : W h e r e d o I s t a r t ? 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B u t t h i s i s p ec u l i a r t o m e b e c a u s e t h e a p p li c a n t k n e w t h a t t h e r e w a s a p r o b l e m a n d s o n o w t h e y ’r e c o mi ng b e f o r e u s a s k i n g u s t o m a k e a n e x ce p t i o n t o t h e r u l e e v e n t h o ug h c o n s t r u c t i o n h a s a l r ea d y s t a r t e d . I a l w a y s l oo k a t t h e s e ca s e s f o r h a r d s h i p a n d I l oo k a t t h a t qu i t e ea r n e s t l y a n d I d o n ’t s ee t h e h a r d s h i p . I t h i n k t h e y h a v e r ea s o n a b l e u s e o f t h e i r p r o p e r t y a n d t h e h a r d s h i p I t h i n k , o r t h e p r o b l e m w a s c r ea t e d w i t h t h e a d d i t i o n a n d t h e b e g i nn i ng o f c o n s t r u c t i o n o n t h e i r p r o p e r t y . A n d s o b eca u s e o f t h a t I a m g o i n g t o r e c o mm e n d d e n i a l o f t h i s v a r i a n c e r e qu e s t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d . C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : W e l l I t o o h a v e a l o t o f e x p e r i e n ce , e s p e c i a ll y i n t h i s a r ea o f L a k e M i nn e w a s h t a b eca u s e a l o t o f t h e h o m e s y o u ’r e t a l k i n g a b o u t w e ’v e h a d q u i t e a f e w p e op l e c o m e b e f o r e u s . O n e g u y I k n o w w a n t e d t o b u il d a 3 ca r g a r a g e . W e w o u l d n o t a l l o w i t b eca u s e a g a i n h e t o o k o v e r t h e im p e r v i o u s s u r f a ce . C o m p r o mi s e c a m e b ac k . H e g o t a 2 ca r g a r a g e a n d I t h i n k t h a t w a s f a i r u s e o f t h e p r o p e r t y . T h e i ss u e a b o u t t h e p a v e r s a n d u s i ng t h i s a s a t e s t ca s e , I d o n ’t t h i n k y o u w a n t t h e c i t y o u t t h e r e o n a c o n s t a n t b a s i s m o n i t o r i n g t h i n g s . T h e A r b o r e t u m a b o u t 3 y ea r s a g o c a m e b e f o r e t h e P l a nn i ng C o m m i ss i o n a n d t a l k e d t o u s a b o u t a ll t h i s . I t w a s a l l i n a s t ud y p h a s e a n d t h e y h a d a l o t o f p r o mi s i ng i d ea s b u t t h e y h a d n o t b r o ug h t a n y t h i ng t o t h e c i t y y e t t o s a y w h a t w a s g o i n g t o w o r k s o I t h i n k w e l e a v e t h a t t o t h e m . Y ea h , h a r d s h i p un f o r t u n a t e l y i s a l e g a l t e r m t h a t i s a m b i gu o u s . I w o u l d a g r ee w i t h y o u , b u t i t ’s t h a t w a y f o r a r ea s o n b eca u s e i t a p p li e s o n a ca s e b y ca s e b a s i s a n d i n t h i s p a r t i c u l a r ca s e , w h e r ea s y o u b r i ng up a l o t o f e x c e p t i o n s t o o t h e r p r o p e r t i e s b u t t h a t ’s t h o s e p r o p e r t i e s a n d I t h i n k w e w ou l d h a v e t o l oo k a t t h e m o n a ca s e b y ca s e b a s i s a n d d e t e r mi n e i t . H e r e , I d o n ’t s ee t h e h a r d s h i p . I m e a n b a s e d up o n e v e r y t h i ng t h a t w e ’v e d o n e i n t h e p a s t . W e ’v e b e e n v e r y c o n s i s t e n t a s f a r a s g r a n t i n g v a r i a n ce s . T h e y ’r e n o t g r a n t e d un l e ss ce r t a i n c o n d i t i o n s a r e s h o w n a n d t h o s e c o n d i t i o n s h a v e n o t b e e n s h o w n h e r e . S o a t t h a t p o i n t I w o u l d n o t b e i n f a v o r o f g r a n t i n g t h e v a r i a n ce e i t h e r . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , t h a n k y o u . I t h i n k s o m e o f m y t h o ug h t s a r e c o n s i s t e n t i n t h a t t h e i s s u e b e f o r e u s h e r e t o n i g h t o n t h i s r e qu e s t i s w h e t h e r o r n o t t h e r e ’s a h a r d s h i p . D o e s t h e s h a p e a n d t o p o g r a ph y o f t h e l o t , w h i c h h a s b e e n pu t f o r t h , c r ea t e a h a r d s h i p . B e i n g a b l e t o b ac k d o w n , b ac k o u t , b ac k d o w n t h e d r i v e w a y . I s t h a t a h a r d s h i p b eca u s e o f t h e l e n g t h o f , a n d t h a t g e t s b ac k t o t h e s h a p e o f t h e l o t . S o m e o f t h e o t h e r i t e m s p r o p o s e d I d o n ’t t h i n k a r e n e c e s s a r i l y h a r d s h i p s . I t h i n k t h e y a r e p r e f e r e n c e s i n t e r m s o f p r o p e r t y u s e . T h e i s s u e a s f a r a s , a n d C o u n c i l w o m a n E r n s t y o u b r o ug h t u p t h e 723 s qu a r e f ee t t h a t w a s p r e s e n t e d . O n e o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t w e h a v e d o n e o v e r t h e l a s t y ea r o r s o , w h e n w e l oo k a t a n d y o u c a n s ee i t . I d o n ’t k n o w i f t h i s i s s t ill s h o w i n g o n t h e s c r e e n o r n o t b u t t h i s l a k e v i e w p i c t u r e , j u s t l e a v e i t r i g h t t h e r e . Y o u ca n s ee t h a t 72 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 53 t h e r e a r e r e t a i n i ng w a ll s t h e r e t h a t h a v e b e e n pu t u p , a n d I’m s u r e t h a t ’s p a r t o f t h e e r o s i o n c o n t r o l b e c a u s e i t c h a n g e s t h e s l o p e o f t h e l o t b y l e v e l i ng o u t a ce r t a i n p o r t i o n . T h e r e t a i n i ng w a ll s w e ’v e b e e n p r e t t y c l ea r a r e n o t c o n s i d e r e d p a r t o f t h e im p e r v i o u s s u r f a ce c o v e r a g e , e v e n t h o ug h v e r t i c a ll y t h e y m i g h t b e b e c a u s e w h a t t h e y e ff ec t i v e l y d o i s t h e y d o c h a n g e t h e s l o p e a n d s o t h e y mi n im i ze r u n o f f . W h a t t h e i ss u e h e r e i s , t h a t o n t o p o f t h e r e t a i n i ng w a ll i s a p a v e r p a t i o a n d t h a t ’s t h e im p e r v i ou s s u r f a c e c o v e r a g e . I a b s o l u t e l y t h i nk p a v e r p a t i o s a r e n i ce a n d t h a t p o pu l a r i n u s e b u t t h a t ’s w h e r e t h e im p e r v i ou s s u r f ace i s c o mi ng f r o m i s h o w i s t h e g r o u n d c o v e r e d a b o v e t h e r e t a i n i ng w a ll f o r t h a t . Y o u k n o w w h a t i t g e t s b ac k t o a n d M r . B r u n i n g s t a r t e d h i s c o mm e n t s a b o u t r ea s o n a b l e u s e o f t h e p r o p e r t y a n d w e c a n t a l k a b o u t w h a t t h e d e f i n i t i o n s a r e , b u t m y s e n s e i s , a n d I t h i n k i t w a s m e n t i o n e d t h a t t h e r e w a s r ea s o n a b l e u s e o f t h i s p r o p e r t y p r i o r t o t h e a d d i t i o n b e i ng s t a r t e d . T h e a d d i t i o n mi g h t b e p r e f e rr e d b u t t h e r ea s o n a b l e u s e w a s a l r ea d y t h e r e a n d w h i l e t h e y w e r e s l i g h t l y o v e r t h e 25 %, m y s e n s e i s i t c a m e f r o m s o m e o f t h e s e mi n o r a d d i t i o n s t h a t o cc u r r e d o v e r t h e y e a r s . W h e t h e r i t ’s t h e d o g k e nn e l . T h e p a d f o r t h e g a s g r i l l . T h e s h e d . T h e p a t i o s . 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I d o n ’t k n o w h o w m a n y o f t h e s e o cc u rr e d b e f o r e o r a f t e r t h e l a s t a dd i t i o n b u t w h e n I s t e p b ac k a n d f r o m a b i g g e r p i c t u r e i s , I t h i n k f r o m w h a t I ’v e h ea r d m y f e l l o w m e m b e r s o f c o u n c i l s a y i s , i s t h e r e w a s r ea s o n a b l e u s e b e f o r e t h e a d d i t i o n s . T h e a d d i t i o n s g o f o r w a r d k n o w i n g f u l l w e l l t h a t t h a t w o u l d pu t t h e m i n a n o v e r a g e . I t w o u l d m a k e t h e m m o r e o u t o f c o m p l i a n ce t h a n w h a t t h e y a l r ea d y w e r e , a n d s o I d o n ’t s ee w h e r e t h e h a r d s h i p i s . I f t h e r e w a s r ea s o n a b l e u s e b e f o r e w i t h t h e s h a p e a n d t o p o g r a ph y , h o w ca n t h e r e , h o w ca n t h e r e b e r ea s o n a b l e u s e a f t e r w h e n t h e r e ’s b e e n a n a d d i t i o n ? I t h i n k i t i s s e l f c r ea t e d f r o m t h a t s e n s e a n d s o w h y I ’d l i k e t o a l l o w p e o p l e t o e x p a n d a n d im p r o v e t h e i r p r o p e r t i e s a s t h e y w a n t , y o u k n o w w e h a v e t o d o i t w i t h i n t h e c o n f i n e s o f t h e o r d i n a n ce a n d t r e a t p e o p l e f a i r l y . I f w e h a v e o t h e r p r o p e r t y o w n e r s t h a t h a v e e x cee d e d t h a t , y o u k n o w t h e r e h a v e b e e n a n u m b e r o f t im e s w h e n w e h a v e a f t e r t h e f a c t v a r i a n ce r e qu e s t s . O r s o m e t h i n g ’s b e e n pu t i n w i t h o u t t h e k n o w l e dg e . T h e y f i nd o u t t h e y ’v e go t t o g o t h r o ug h t h e p r o ce ss . H e r e s t a f f w a s w o r k i n g t o t r y t o ac c o m m o d a t e t h e r e qu e s t o f t h e p r o p e r t y o w n e r a n d t o m o v e f o r w a r d qu i c k l y , k n o w i n g t h a t t h e y h a d t h i s i n p l a ce . S o t h i s w a s , a n d I t h i n k C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m m e n t i o n e d i t . T h i s w a s n ’t a n a f t e r t h e f ac t . T h i s w a s k n o w n g o i n g i n a n d I j u s t , I ca n ’t s ee t h e h a r d s h i p h e r e g i v e n t h e f a c t t h a t I t h i n k t h e y h a d r ea s o n a b l e u s e b e f o r e a n d w h a t ’s c r ea t i n g t h i s h a r d s h i p n o w i s t h e d e s i r e t o e x p a n d . S o u n f o r t u n a t e l y i n t h i s ca s e I ca n ’t s ee m o v i n g f o r w a r d . T h e r e a r e a l o t o f a d d i t i o n a l f a c t o r s t h a t w o u l d s ugg e s t t h a t w e s h o u l d m o v e f o r w a r d . I t ’s a l a k e s h o r e p r o p e r t y . O n e o f t h e b i gg e s t r ea s o n s w e h a v e t h e s e s t o r m w a t e r o r d i n a n c e s i n p l a ce i s t o p r o t e c t r u n o f f i n t o o u r l a k e s . 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S o t h a t ’s w h y I w a n t e d t o t a l k a l i t t l e b i t m o r e b u t f r o m e v a l u a t i n g t h e f ac t s t h a t h a v e b e e n p r e s e n t e d , a n d e v e n w i t h t h e a l t e r n a t i v e s t h i s e v e n i ng , I ca n ’t 73 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 54 s ee s upp o r t i n g t h e v a r i a n c e r e qu e s t . A n y o t h e r t h oug h t s o r c o mm e n t s ? I f n o t i s , w o u l d s o m e b od y li k e t o m a k e a m o t i o n ? C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : I’l l m a k e t h e m o t i o n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : I m a k e a m o t i o n t h e C h a n h a ss e n C i t y C o u n c i l d e n i e s P l a nn i ng C a s e #08 -24 f o r a 3 .7 % h a r d s u r f a ce c o v e r a g e v a r i a n c e t o e x cee d t h e 25 % im p e r v i o u s c o v e r a g e lim i t a t i o n b y 1 ,038 s qu a r e f ee t o n L o t 7 , B l o c k 1 , M a p l e R i dg e A d d i t i o n , w i t h c o n d i t i o n s 1 t h r o ug h 4 o n p a g e s 8 a n d 9 o n t h e s t a f f r e p o r t a n d t h e a d o p t i o n o f t h e a t t ac h e d F i n d i n g s o f F ac t s a n d A c t i o n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . A n y m od i f i ca t i o n t o t h e m o t i o n ? K a t e A a n e n s o n : C a n I j u s t f o r c l a r i f i ca t i o n ? W h a t I h ea r d f r o m t h e c o u n c i l i s t h a t t h e y h a d d i s c r e t i o n o f w h a t t h e y w a n t e d r e m o v e d t o g e t t o t h a t p e r ce n t a g e s o w e ca n s t i l l w o r k w i t h t h e a p p li c a n t o n t h a t ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : I t h i n k t h a t w o u l d f i t w i t h i n t h i s m o t i o n a s i t ’s b e e n p r o p o s e d . O k a y , t h a n k y o u . I s t h e r e a s ec o n d ? C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : S ec o n d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : M a d e a n d s ec o n d e d . A n y d i s c u ss i o n o n t h e m o t i o n ? 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A n a s -b u i l t s u r v e y , s i g n e d b y a r e g i s t e r e d l a n d s u r v e y o r , i s r e q u i r e d a n d m u s t b e s ub m i tt e d n o l a t e r t h a n J un e 15 , 2009 t o e n s u r e c o m p l i a n ce . 4 . F i n a l b u i l d i ng i n s p ec t i o n w i l l n o t b e a pp r o v e d u n t i l v e r i f i ca t i o n o f c o m p li a n ce . A l l vo t e d i n f avo r , e x ce p t C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t w h o o pp o s e d , a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d w i t h a vo t e o f 4 t o 1 . 74 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 55 C O UNC I L P R E S E N T A T I O N S: M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h o ug h t s o r c o mm e n t s ? H a p p y N e w Y ea r t o e v e r yb od y . J u s t a qu i c k c o mm e n t s r e g a r d i n g S o u t h w e s t T r a n s i t . I s e r v e d o n t h e c o m m i ss i o n t h i s l a s t y ea r a n d i t w a s t h e b e s t o f t im e s a n d t h e w o r s t o f t im e s t h i s l a s t y ea r . R i d e r s h i p c o n t i n u e d t o im p r o v e i n l a r g e p a r t b e c a u s e o f t h e f u e l c o s t s I t h i n k du r i n g t h e mi d p a r t o f 2008 . R e a l l y pu s h e d up r i d e r s h i p . 2008 S o u t h w e s t T r a n s i t , w h i c h i s t h e pub l i c t r a n s i t a u t h o r i t y f o r C h a n h a s s e n , E d e n P r a i r i e a n d C h a s k a s a w i t ’s f i r s t y ea r w h e r e i t h a d o v e r a mi ll i o n r i d e r s . R i d e r s h i p g r e w t h i s y ea r a n d a g a i n I d o n ’t h a v e a f i n a l n u m b e r s b u t w e ’ll b e w e l l o v e r t h a t a s w e ll . T h e r e h a v e b e e n s o m e b ud g e t i n g c h a l l e n g e s l a s t y ea r a n d g o i n g f o r w a r d t h i s y ea r . T h a t s h o u l d n ’t b e a s u r p r i s e I d o n ’t t h i n k t o a n yb od y . T h e s o u r ce o f f u n d i ng f o r t r a n s i t … I t h i n k t h e r e w a s a n a r t i c l e a g a i n i n t o d a y ’s p a p e r a b o u t t h a t , h a s f a l l e n . T h a t ’s t h e s a l e s t a x g e n e r a t e d w h e n p e o p l e b u y ca r s . P e o p l e h a v e n ’t b e e n b u y i ng ca r s a n d s o t h e r e ’s b e e n l e ss r e v e n u e c o m i n g i n f o r a l l o f t h e t r a n s i t a g e n c i e s . S o u t h w e s t h a s , i n mi d -y ea r w e t h o ug h t w e ’d b e l oo k i n g a t a b udg e t s h o r t f a ll . T h e c o m m i ss i o n m a d e s o m e c h a n g e s t o t h e o p e r a t i o n s t o r e du ce e x p e n s e s a n d n o w i t l oo k s l i k e w e ’l l b e f i n i s h i ng 2008 i n a r e v e n u e /e x p e n s e n e u t r a l a r ea . P e r h a p s a s m a ll s u r p l u s . P e r h a p s a s m a l l d e f i c i t b u t m u c h b e tt e r t h a n w h e r e w e t h o ug h t w e w e r e . S o b o tt o m li n e , I j u s t w a n t e d t o s h a r e t h a t w i t h t h e c o u n c i l o n s o m e o f t h e t h i n g s g o i n g o n w i t h S o u t h w e s t . I c o n t i n u e t o s ee g o o d c o mm e n t s f r o m p e o p l e w h o r i d e t h e b u s e s w h i c h i s a l w a y s g oo d t o h ea r . I k n o w C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t y o u u s e o u r s e r v i ce q u i t e r e gu l a r l y a n d I ’v e h ea r d g oo d t h i n g s f r o m y o u t o o . C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : Y ea h , t h e y go t m e b ac k h e r e f o r t h e c o u n c il m ee t i n g t o n i g h t i n o n e h o u r s o t h a t w a s go o d . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A l o t b e t t e r t h a n I t h i n k s o m e p e o p l e i n t h e i r ca r s w e r e d o i n g s o , i t ’s g r ea t s e r v i c e . I t ’s a w o n d e r f u l o r g a n i za t i o n . W e s h ou l d a l l b e p r o u d o f h a v i n g , o f b e i ng a p a r t o f S o u t h w e s t T r a n s i t . T h e y d o a g r e a t j o b a n d t h e y c o n t i n u e t o g r o w a n d c o n t i n u e t o i n n o v a t e a n d b e c r ea t i v e i n h o w t h e y p r o v i d e s e r v i c e s f o r o u r r e s i d e n t s s o I w a n t e d t o s h a r e t h a t a n d o b v i o u s l y i f a n yb od y h a s a n y qu e s t i o n s , l e t m e k n o w . B e s u r e t o b r i n g t h a t u p a s w e ll . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : T h a n k s f o r y o u r r e p r e s e n t a t i o n . W e a pp r e c i a t e t h a t . M a y o r F u r l o n g : A b s o l u t e l y . I t ’s m y p l e a s u r e . H a p p y t o s e r v e . A n y o t h e r c o u n c i l p r e s e n t a t i o n s t h i s e v e n i n g ? C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : J u s t qu i c k l y . C o n g r a t u l a t i o n s o n C o u n c i l m e m b e r T j o r n h o m a n d M c D o n a l d f o r c o n t i n u i ng i n t h e i r r e s p ec t i v e r o l e s o n t h e c o u n c i l . I l oo k f o r w a r d t o w o r k i n g w i t h t h e m i n t h e c o mi ng s e v e r a l y ea r s . I t h i n k w e ’v e d o n e s o m e go o d s t u f f . I l oo k f o r w a r d t o d o i n g t h a t s o m e m o r e a n d I a l s o a p o l og i ze f o r t h e c e l l p h o n e i n t e rr up t i o n . I o b v i o u s l y , I go t a n e w c e ll p h o n e a n d I o b v i ou s l y h a v e s o m e l ea r n i ng t o d o . M a y o r F u r l o n g : I a ss u m e t h e y w e r e f o r e m e r g e n c i e s a n d n o t b r i n g h o m e a c o u p l e g a l l o n s . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : A h , n o c o mm e n t . 75 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 56 M a y o r F u r l o n g : W e w il l a ss u m e t h e f o r m e r . O k a y , a n y t h i ng e l s e f o r c o u n c i l t h i s e v e n i n g ? I f n o t M r . G e r h a r d t . AD M I N I S T RA T I V E P R E S E N T A T I O N S: T o d d G e r h a r d t : W e l l a c o u p l e o f t h i ng s g o i n g o n i n t h e c o mm u n i t y . T o d a y t h e U n i v e r s i t y o f M i nn e s o t a c o n t i n u e d t h e i r ca r p s t ud y . Y o u ’ll p r o b a b l y s ee a s t o r y t h i s w ee k i n t h e V i ll a g e r . T h e y w e r e w o r k i n g o n L a k e S u s a n s e i n i ng t h e l a k e o u t w i t h t h e ca r p , a n d go t ca ug h t a h a u l . V e r y f e w g a m e f i s h f ou n d i n t h e l a k e s o , n o b o d y n ee d s t o h a n g a r o u n d o u t t h e r e s o . C o u n c i l m a n L i t s e y : N o t r o ph y f i s h o u t t h e r e? T o d d G e r h a r d t : N o t r o ph y f i s h . 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T o dd a n d h i s g r o up d o a g r ea t j o b a n d a pp r e c i a t e t h e C h a m b e r’s i n v o l v e m e n t t h i s y ea r a l s o s o . W i t h t h a t , t h a t ’s a l l I h a v e f o r upd a t e s . O h , w e d i d h a v e t h e 112 L ea d e r s m ee t i n g . W e h o s t e d t h a t l a s t F r i d a y . T h a t ’s w h e r e a ll t h e c i t y m a n a g e r s , s up e r i n t e n d e n t o f S c h oo l D i s t r i c t 112 a n d m a y o r s g e t t o g e t h e r t o t a l k a b o u t i s s u e s i n t h e c o mm u n i t y . T h e r e ’s s o m e i n f o r m a t i o n o n t h e B eac o n . I d o n ’t h a v e t h a t i n f r o n t o f m e h e r e . 76 C i t y C o u n c i l M ee t i n g - J a n u a r y 12 , 2009 57 M a y o r F u r l o n g : Y e s , I w a s g o i n g t o s a y t h a t I t h i nk a l l t h e m e m b e r s o f t h e c o u n c il g o t t h i s . 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T h a t ’s a ll I h a v e . M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . A n y qu e s t i o n s f o r M r . G e r h a r d t ? O r h i s s t a f f . N o ? O k a y . V e r y go o d . C O RR E S P O ND E N C E D I S CU SS I O N. M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n y c o mm e n t s o r i t e m s o n t h e c o rr e s p o n d e n ce p ac k e t ? C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : I j u s t w a n t t o k n o w , d i d C h a n h a ss e n w i n t h a t s t o r y o r l o s e ? W i t h t h e C h a s k a H e r a l d ’s s t o r y . W h a t ’s b e tt e r , C h a s k a o r C h a n ? M a y o r F u r l o n g : I t h i n k t h e y h a d t o f i l l s o m e t h i ng i n a t t h e e n d j u s t t o m a k e i t s o u n d . C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : T h a t ’s w h a t I t h o ug h t t oo . T o d d G e r h a r d t : I’m n o t b i a s e d b u t I ’m p r e tt y s u r e C h a n h a s s e n w o n . M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , t h a n k y o u . A n y t h i ng e l s e? I s t h e r e a n y t h i ng e l s e t o c o m e b e f o r e t h e c o u n c il t h i s e v e n i n g ? I f n o t , i s t h e r e a m o t i o n t o a d j o u r n ? C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d s ec o nd e d t o a d j o u r n t h e m ee t i n g . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a vo t e o f 5 t o 0 . T h e C i t y C o u n c i l m ee t i n g w a s a d j o u r n e d a t 9 :25 p .m . S ub m i tt e d b y T o dd G e r h a r d t C i t y M a n a g e r P r e p a r e d b y N a n n O p h e i m 77 CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING SUMMARY MINUTES JANUARY 6 2009 Chairman Papke called the meeting to order at 7 00 p m MEMBERS PRESENT Kurt Papke Debbie Larson Mark Undestad and Denny Laufenburger MEMBERS ABSENT Kevin Dillon Dan Keefe and Kathleen Thomas STAFF PRESENT Kate Aanenson Community Development Director Bob Generous Senior Planner Paul Oehme City Engineer Public Works Director Alyson Fauske Assistant City Engineer and Terry Jeffery Water Resources Coordinator PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY REQUEST FOR A SITE PLAN REVIEW WITH VARIANCES AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN 82 500 SQUARE FOOT PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL OFFICE PARK IOP LOCATED ON LOTS 5 6 BLOCK 1 CHANHASSEN LAKES BUSINESS TH PARK 5 ADDITION 7901 PARK PLACE APPLICANT OWNER CITY OF CHANHASSEN PLANNING CASE 08 25 Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item Commissioner Larson asked for clarification on the number of trees being required in the landscaping plan Commissioner Laufenburger asked if the city was consolidating all public works facilities into this one facility and erosion issues with the creek Commissioner Undestad asked for clarification of the driveway location in relation to the wetland setbacks Chair Papke asked about the chances of saving oak trees during construction and what is being proposed to mitigate runoff from the salt storage facility into the watershed The architect Jeff Oertel reviewed the site plan elevations as well as outlining the systems that are being proposed within the building to help keep energy costs down Chairman Papke opened the public hearing No one spoke and the public hearing was closed After comments from the commission the following motions were made Laufenburger moved Larson seconded that the Planning Commission recommends the City Council approve the Site Plan for Planning Case 08 25 for an 82 500 square foot one story office warehouse building with a mezzanine storage area with a Conditional Use Permit for outdoor storage and setback variances from the creek and wetland for the parking lot area plans prepared by Oertel Architects and the City of Chanhassen dated December 5 2008 subject to the following conditions 1 The developer shall provide exterior benches and or tables 2 Signage shall require a separate sign permit review to determine compliance with City ordinance 78 Planning Commission Summary January 6 2009 3 The applicant shall mitigate for the lost functions and values of any buffer variance by replacing an equivalent area of buffer in a location which will provide the maximum water quality benefit Preliminary review indicates that area to be northeast of the wetland 4 The applicant shall restore the stream channel as well as the top of bank and flood plain for Riley Creek including the removal of any construction and other debris in the area 5 The applicant shall prepare a vegetation management plan for Riley Creek This management plan shall be created in conjunction with the landscaping plan and the Environmental Resources Specialist and Water Resources Coordinator should be consulted in the creation of this plan 6 The applicant will modify the existing NPDES permit to identify the construction manager for the project 7 The applicant will provide adequate treatment for drainage directed to the wetland 8 The applicant should look for ways to promote infiltration and incorporate alternative stormwater management best management practices into the site design and build One such measure is the construction of a bio infiltration feature at the outlet from the drive aisle northeast of the wetland Other features to investigate include pervious pavement systems cisterns biofiltration trenches preservation or re establishment of vegetation etc 9 The final 200 feet of the swale located west of the proposed facility needs to be protected with Category 2 Wood Fiber 1S Erosion Control Blanket 10 Those areas to be planted in BWSR seed mix U7 should be seeded at a rate of 15LBS PLS acre where PLS means Pure Live Seed 11 The buildings are required to have automatic fire extinguishing systems 12 Building plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the State of Minnesota 13 Retaining walls over four feet high must be designed by a professional engineer and a permit must be obtained prior to construction 14 The 51 inch and 45 inch oaks located near the northwest and southeast corners of the building shall be protected by fencing throughout construction 15 The site plan must show the dimensions of the lots 16 The northern access must be revised so that the maximum width does not exceed 36 feet 2 79 Planning Commission Summary January 6 2009 17 An encroachment agreement is required for the portion of the parking area that lies within the public right of way 18 If feasible the runoff from the cold storage area access should be conveyed to the existing storm sewer 19 Revised drainage calculations and storm sewer sizing must be submitted to ensure that the existing downstream infrastructure can accommodate the proposed runoff 20 An encroachment agreement is required to construct the northern retaining wall within the drainage and utility easement 21 The proposed top and bottom of wall elevations must be shown 22 The drainage and utility easement over the abandoned portion of the sanitary sewer must be vacated 23 The existing drainage and utility easements and abandoned utilities must be labeled on the plan sheet 24 The utility plan must include a note regarding the connection to the existing storm sewer All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0 Laufenburger moved Larson seconded that the Planning Commission recommends that the City Council approves a conditional use permit for outdoor storage subject to the following condition 1 The proposed development must comply with the approved site plan plans prepared by Oertel Architects and the City of Chanhassen dated 12 05 08 All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0 PUBLIC HEARING BECK VARIANCE REQUEST FOR VARIANCES FROM THE BLUFF SETBACK SIZE LIMITATION OF A WATER ORIENTED STRUCTURE AND SIZE LIMITATION FOR DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE S FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SHED AND DECK ON PROPERTY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RSF LOCATED AT 6250 RIDGE ROAD APPLICANT OWNER CHRISTOPHE AND NADINE BECK PLANNING CASE 08 23 Public Present Name Address Nadine Beck 6250 Ridge Road 3 80 Planning Commission Summary January 6 2009 Jens Midthun 6225 Ridge Road Tara and Dena Wetzel 6260 Ridge Road Angie Auseth presented the staff report on this item Commissioner Undestad asked about the status of construction for the shed and deck Commissioner Laufenburger asked for clarification of the 30 removal of ground cover Commissioner Larson asked for clarification regarding the encroachment into the neighboring yard Chairman Papke asked staff to refresh the commission s memory as to the importance of enforcement of the bluff ordinance The applicant Nadine Beck explained the placement and size of the shed and deck Chairman Papke opened the public hearing Jens Midthun 6225 Ridge Road speaking on behalf of his family stated their strong support of all variances as long as the 10 foot side yard setback is followed Tara and Dena Wetzel speaking on behalf of their parents who live at 6260 Ridge Road explained they were happy that the 10 foot side yard setback was going to be honored and would support the Beck s being able to use their property by the lake The Wetzel s main concern was with the prior owners clear cutting the property Before closing the public hearing Chairman Papke noted that the city had received correspondence from several neighbors in the area that were not as supportive as the neighbors who spoke during the public hearing After discussion regarding the variance regulations and comments from the commission the following motion was made Laufenburger moved Larson seconded that the Planning Commission approves Planning Case 08 23 for a 56 square foot detached accessory structure variance for the construction of a 250 square foot water oriented structure and denies the bluff setback and water oriented accessory structure size limitation variance requests on property 6250 Ridge Road and adoption of the Findings of Fact with the following conditions 1 The combined square footage of the water oriented accessory structure shed deck may not exceed 250 square feet 2 A building or zoning permit must be applied for and approved prior to completion of the water oriented structure to ensure compliance with City Code 3 The applicant and staff will work out a re vegetation plan for the clear cut area to meet the approval of staff All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0 APPROVE OF MINUTES Commissioner Larson noted the verbatim and summary minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated December 2 2008 as presented Chairman Papke adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 8 20 p m Submitted by Kate Aanenson Community Development Director Prepared by Nann Opheim 4 81 CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 6 2009 Chairman Papke called the meeting to order at 7 00 p m MEMBERS PRESENT Kurt Papke Debbie Larson Mark Undestad and Denny Laufenburger MEMBERS ABSENT Kevin Dillon Dan Keefe and Kathleen Thomas STAFF PRESENT Kate Aanenson Community Development Director Bob Generous Senior Planner Paul Oehme City Engineer Public Works Director Alyson Fauske Assistant City Engineer and Terry Jeffery Water Resources Coordinator PUBLIC HEARING PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY REQUEST FOR A SITE PLAN REVIEW WITH VARIANCES AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN 82 500 SQUARE FOOT PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING ON PROPERTY ZONED INDUSTRIAL OFFICE PARK IOP LOCATED ON LOTS 5 6 BLOCK 1 CHANHASSEN LAKES BUSINESS TH PARK 5 ADDITION 7901 PARK PLACE APPLICANT OWNER CITY OF CHANHASSEN PLANNING CASE 08 25 Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item Papke Alright Debbie Larson The only question I have and I think it s probably self explanatory based on what you ve told me but on the landscaping on page 7 we re showing that there s a required 70 trees We re proposing to put up 22 Is that because there s a lot of natural stuff already up there A lot of trees that we re just not touching Generous Correct Larson So we don t need to do that Aanenson Yeah I think it was hard to tell from the picture The original one that we showed maybe you can go to that one first The first picture shows the entire site The two parcels that were included in the site The project itself is sitting to the interior so those are all the trees that we re preserving and that kind of goes into that first why we looked at the variances Trying to preserve those trees and create that buffer on Audubon itself so that s part of that tree preservation there and those trees are counted towards that so not all of that s being disturbed Larson Okay That s all I have Generous Or very little 82 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Aanenson Very little of it correct Yeah provides that so when you re driving down Audubon you don t see that Whereas now when you go by the public works building some of that is very visible That was one of the goals that we tried to accomplish too And then when we get a chance the architect there s a lot of interesting energy applications that are being used in this building and site design that the architect s here to talk a little bit about too and I think that plays into some of the features that we were looking at too The lighting The roof tops Some of those things so when we get to that portion I ll let him speak a little bit more about the uniqueness of the building Laufenburger Good job Bob and staff Just a couple questions This is a new facility Is this providing the consolidation of public works facilities in various stages around the city or can somebody speak to that Aanenson Yeah maybe let the City Engineer address that question Oehme Thank you Chair commission members Yeah that does the new facility does consolidate a lot of equipment into this one facility That s one of our problems we have right now is we have material and equipment spread all throughout the city and parks We have a bunch of materials our equipment stored in water towers and other areas around town It s just hard to properly maintain and keep track of a lot of that A lot of those equipment so that s what a lot of cities have been going to is trying to consolidate Try to keep a lot of this equipment under one roof so it s really more accessible and usable Laufenburger And will this facility be the only public works facility for the city of Chanhassen Oehme Yes It will be the only facility So our existing facility that we re currently using Laufenburger Right Oehme Actually we re working that facility right now Laufenburger Okay so that will be vacated and this will occupy Oehme Yep We re definitely going to try to sell that Laufenburger And I don t recall seeing this What are your plans for when assuming all the approvals are received when do you anticipate occupancy of this Oehme Well we re anticipating the first half of 2010 January February timeframe Laufenburger So about a year Oehme Year plus 2 83 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Laufenburger Thank you And then one other question I think you asked it regarding the meandering creek Is that Riley Creek that is to the east Generous Yes Laufenburger Is that correct Do you have any evidence that that meandering will change in high water times or anything Jeffery If I may Chair Papke Commissioner Laufenburger The creek itself I mean you ve got to remember this area where the public works facility is being proposed has been used as what s called the bone yard for city staff and it was used prior to any of our shoreland rules going into effect so so the long way getting to answer your question there has been considerable degradation along the top bank area within the channel itself Laufenburger That would be just to the west of the channel of Riley Creek right Jeffery Correct Resulting in conditions that are prone to erosion throughout there so I think as part of the restoration within that area part of the mitigation the stabilization outlet channel will be a priority concern within there Any natural channel will change it s course over time and there s nothing we can do to stop that entirely but areas where you know the actions that we ve got or water that s being discharged where it s creating what I ll say hazardous conditions for lack of a better word we can act to mitigate those to minimize the chances of that channel changing course Laufenburger Okay Jeffery And I also think it s important to note a lot of the storm water features that are being put on the site will actually improve the hydraulics of that area and lessen the opportunity for erosion within that channel Everything from the establishment of the vegetation along that shoreline where now in many cases vegetation is absent to the treatment and detention of storm water behind the building taking the roof runoff behind the building Bringing it to the wetland and then taking everything from the drive on the south side of the building and bringing it to what will amount to an engineered wetland You re actually putting it into the wetland and then the parking area will actually be diverted to a pond that was constructed when this entire development went in in 85 86 to the east So that should actually help mitigate any problems within that channel Laufenburger That s the pond that you re referring to right there Jeffery Yes thank you Laufenburger Thank you That answered my question Undestad Just one quick one too On can you bring that slide up that had the shaded areas of where the impacts are Yeah The question on there was just going around that tree with the driveway we re not the shaded areas is inside of the setback buffer area is that right It s not 3 84 Planning Commission January 6 2009 that So the shaded area s actually within the setback buffer area not the actual wetland in there Aanenson That s correct Undestad Okay Papke Okay just a couple here The oak tree that we re going to great lengths to save Quite often in the construction set like this despite our best efforts sometimes these things don t work The City Forester what s the assessment of the probability of that oak tree actually surviving Generous She was very positive They re doing everything that we require for people to mitigate and protect it Before they go forward they re putting up the tree protection fencing They re using a retaining wall so they don t change the elevation at the drip line so her prognosis is good as long as it s followed through Papke I d hate to go through all that effort and then end up with a big pile of firewood Will there be salt storage facility One of the things that kind of strikes me is if we re storing salt here with the possibility of runoff from a pile of salt and then we re also you know encroaching into the Riley Creek watershed I m having kind of difficulty coming to grips with those two They seem to be kind of fighting each other Can you speak to that at all You mentioned we re going to extra efforts to mitigate any storm water runoff Have we taken the salt I assume we ve taken the salt storage into account but I d just like to make sure we vocalize that Jeffery Yeah Chairman Papke yes we have In fact it was a large discussion that we had at that point to make sure that wasn t going to produce runoff into the creek itself First of all the salt container and Mr Oehme correct me if I m wrong but the salt containment area itself will be of solid construction which in itself will reduce the leeching out of that area And then drainage within the parking area will actually be connected to the storm sewer system which divert the water to the pond and away from the creek so it should not pose a hazard to the to Riley Creek itself Or the wetland to the south Aanenson Just to be clear there is a current structure on the existing public works building enclosure that you can see and that same structure will be moved but again measures will be taken Actually we did have a discussion about where the best location was It has been moved to accommodate that concern so it was moved a couple places to find the best spot to mitigate that The staff had the same concern internally Papke Okay Applicant presentation Hear from the architect or Jeff Oertel Good evening Mr Chair commission members For the record my name is Jeff Oertel and I reside and work out of St Paul It s a pleasure to be here tonight A few comments first of all to add onto the salt storage The orientation of that storage building is pretty much ideal in relative terms with these buildings you basically have an open end almost all the time and then you have three enclosed sides and the structure is oriented if I recall south southeast and it avoids a lot of the winter you know those strong winter winds and that sort of thing And 4 85 Planning Commission January 6 2009 we will do what we can to I think even out level or even dip the inside of this structure so that any watery salt whatever is contained in that and not run off I don t know if we have or if we can throw a few pictures up on the wall Just to orient you a little bit more within the building Alright I ll start on the outside of the building This I apologize This shot s pretty hard to see There s a lot of detail One thing that wasn t mentioned is that even though this facility s for all of public works operations there is a community component to this that the entry that you see in the illustration there is also the public entry The main public entry and it s anticipated that this building will be used for voting purposes and internally the facility was designed for the stacking of people to come in Move through what is the multi purpose lunch room training room and that s the room with the little set of it looks like about 16 tables and chairs So even though that will be where the public works staff get training Have their meals and breaks that area will be used for the public perhaps for more than just voting purposes but certainly for that in particular and we do have a waiting area A fairly large waiting area just off the main entry for that purpose as well Otherwise within the building I know your main focus is on the exterior but within the building we have offices which would be at the bottom of the sheet that we re looking at which looked to the west And then internally within that office sector of the building we have the typical restrooms and locker rooms and support areas of the building Now that whole corner which will be the most visible part of the building has the more expensive material It has the brick and it has quite a lot of glass for viewing But within the rest of the building what we re doing with day lighting is trying to get day lighting from up above and you can see off to the right in this shot where the vehicle maintenance area is there s a clear story unit and we ve actually in our facilities designed quite a few buildings like this where there s a clear story right at the roof edge and daylight just seems to love to follow that ceiling pattern and it works very well for bringing in daylight And we re also adding quite a bit of clear story glass at the office area to bring in daylight within that area And partly because we re trying to walk a fine line between the budget that the city has and not exceeding that budget we ve come up with an idea to bring in daylight within that big vehicle area That big bay that you saw on the plans And since it s counter productive to put in a lot of glass at the knee level or at the viewing level because that s where all the vehicles are stored and equipment put up against the wall We re adding the glass units up high to bring in the daylight up high at a more modest cost Otherwise as mentioned earlier we have quite a few devices within the building and systems to try to conserve energy These buildings do use a lot of energy because the exhaust gases have to be removed from the building both for health reasons for code reasons and so we re adding quite a bit of mechanical special mechanical systems to try to lower energy We re looking into geothermal heat which I believe will be considered as an alternate for the council to consider depending on how the price comes in And we re looking at quite a few lighting devices and sensors to avoid lights being turned on and staying on all day and so there are quite a few systems within the building to help keep the energy costs down Just a few last notes On the exterior we re going with a fairly what would be an inexpensive pre cast wall panel I m sure the commissioners are familiar with that but rather than going with the typical no brainer panel we are trying to break up the skin of it with some horizontal pieces randomly placed to try to break up the wall because it is a sizable wall Fortunate in our favor as a part of the planning the big long what did we say it was 300 some foot wall long wall will be facing the woods and almost not visible to the public whatsoever That was a brief visit through it and if you have any questions I d be happy to answer 5 86 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Larson I was just wondering can you show us where it s hard to see within these pictures where this building is going to be for the salt Jeff Oertel Sure It s on the Larson It looks like it s removed or over somewhere else Generous On the north side Jeff Oertel It s dashed in There s the salt Oehme By the northeast corner Jeff Oertel And it s not the prettiest of structures of course It s got a kind of a hoop top to it and a concrete base and the open end is facing oh it s facing southeast but there you go Thank you And so one of the dilemmas that we have my firm has designed I don t know 20 or 25 of these buildings but the dilemma is that we as the community need salt on the roads and the municipalities need to buy it in bulk And even right now I don t know if Paul s had this experience but some operations are being cut off and if they haven t pre ordered a fairly large quantity over that tough period at the end of the year some communities are running out of salt and had to just pick up small batches so the salt buildings tend to want to be big because of the need to buy in bulk and it s just that unfortunate tough component It s never the prettiest of structures Larson I don t care if it s pretty or not Jeff Oertel I do Laufenburger If there s anybody concerned about pretty Larson TouchØ That s all Papke Thank you very much Any other presentation from the City Any other issues Okay With that I ll open the public hearing If anybody from the public would like to get up and make any comments on this matter before us please step up to the podium and let us know what you think No movement With that I close the public hearing and bring it back to the commissioners for discussion and debate and Mark we ll start with you then Undestad I didn t really have any issues no I mean the size of the site and the coverage they re on there we know we don t have a hard surface coverage problem there And the way things lay out here you re going around all the saving all the trees and things I think it was well thought out It looks nice Laufenburger I concur I just visually I like the building It s kind of hidden People who want to see what good architecture is in place in Chanhassen We might have to put up green signs that says you know public works facility here No I think it s I like it 6 87 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Larson Yeah I like it too No issues Papke Okay I had some issues coming into the meeting You know I m always nervous when the city asks for variances and then doesn t necessarily grant them to the public but I think we ve shown good justification for this one and I think all the concerns I had have been So with that I ll entertain a motion Laufenburger Mr Chair The Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends that City Council approve the Site Plan for Planning Case 08 25 for an 82 500 square foot one story office warehouse building with a mezzanine storage area with a Conditional Use Permit for outdoor storage and setback variances from the creek and wetland for the parking lot area plans prepared by Oertel Architects and the City of Chanhassen dated December 5 2008 subject to the conditions of the staff report and findings Papke Is there a second Larson I ll second that Laufenburger moved Larson seconded that the Planning Commission recommends the City Council approve the Site Plan for Planning Case 08 25 for an 82 500 square foot one story office warehouse building with a mezzanine storage area with a Conditional Use Permit for outdoor storage and setback variances from the creek and wetland for the parking lot area plans prepared by Oertel Architects and the City of Chanhassen dated December 5 2008 subject to the following conditions 1 The developer shall provide exterior benches and or tables 2 Signage shall require a separate sign permit review to determine compliance with City ordinance 3 The applicant shall mitigate for the lost functions and values of any buffer variance by replacing an equivalent area of buffer in a location which will provide the maximum water quality benefit Preliminary review indicates that area to be northeast of the wetland 4 The applicant shall restore the stream channel as well as the top of bank and flood plain for Riley Creek including the removal of any construction and other debris in the area 5 The applicant shall prepare a vegetation management plan for Riley Creek This management plan shall be created in conjunction with the landscaping plan and the Environmental Resources Specialist and Water Resources Coordinator should be consulted in the creation of this plan 6 The applicant will modify the existing NPDES permit to identify the construction manager for the project 7 88 Planning Commission January 6 2009 7 The applicant will provide adequate treatment for drainage directed to the wetland 8 The applicant should look for ways to promote infiltration and incorporate alternative stormwater management best management practices into the site design and build One such measure is the construction of a bio infiltration feature at the outlet from the drive aisle northeast of the wetland Other features to investigate include pervious pavement systems cisterns biofiltration trenches preservation or re establishment of vegetation etc 9 The final 200 feet of the swale located west of the proposed facility needs to be protected with Category 2 Wood Fiber 1S Erosion Control Blanket 10 Those areas to be planted in BWSR seed mix U7 should be seeded at a rate of 15LBS PLS acre where PLS means Pure Live Seed 11 The buildings are required to have automatic fire extinguishing systems 12 Building plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the State of Minnesota 13 Retaining walls over four feet high must be designed by a professional engineer and a permit must be obtained prior to construction 14 The 51 inch and 45 inch oaks located near the northwest and southeast corners of the building shall be protected by fencing throughout construction 15 The site plan must show the dimensions of the lots 16 The northern access must be revised so that the maximum width does not exceed 36 feet 17 An encroachment agreement is required for the portion of the parking area that lies within the public right of way 18 If feasible the runoff from the cold storage area access should be conveyed to the existing storm sewer 19 Revised drainage calculations and storm sewer sizing must be submitted to ensure that the existing downstream infrastructure can accommodate the proposed runoff 20 An encroachment agreement is required to construct the northern retaining wall within the drainage and utility easement 21 The proposed top and bottom of wall elevations must be shown 22 The drainage and utility easement over the abandoned portion of the sanitary sewer must be vacated 8 89 Planning Commission January 6 2009 23 The existing drainage and utility easements and abandoned utilities must be labeled on the plan sheet 24 The utility plan must include a note regarding the connection to the existing storm sewer All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0 Laufenburger moved Larson seconded that the Planning Commission recommends that the City Council approves a conditional use permit for outdoor storage subject to the following condition 1 The proposed development must comply with the approved site plan plans prepared by Oertel Architects and the City of Chanhassen dated 12 05 08 All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0 PUBLIC HEARING BECK VARIANCE REQUEST FOR VARIANCES FROM THE BLUFF SETBACK SIZE LIMITATION OF A WATER ORIENTED STRUCTURE AND SIZE LIMITATION FOR DETACHED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE S FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SHED AND DECK ON PROPERTY ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RSF LOCATED AT 6250 RIDGE ROAD APPLICANT OWNER CHRISTOPHE AND NADINE BECK PLANNING CASE 08 23 Public Present Name Address Nadine Beck 6250 Ridge Road Jens Midthun 6225 Ridge Road Tara and Deana Wetzel 6260 Ridge Road Angie Auseth presented the staff report on this item Papke Mark we ll start with you Undestad I just have one You say when somebody went out there in October and issued the stop work and they elected to finish the deck and things that were out there now and apply for the variance Auseth The deck and the shed are as is when we went out there Laufenburger Thank you staff Could you just go into a little further explanation about the 30 coverage removal and why if they chose to remove a tree that would be in violation Can you just explain that a little bit more for me please 9 90 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Auseth I ll defer that over to Terry Jeffery Laufenburger Okay You understand my question Jeffery Yeah As Ms Auseth pointed out earlier yeah actually that slide that you have is probably more At some point and in all likelihood prior to the Beck s assuming ownership of this property this area that you see on the slide was cleared Which is already over the 30 allowed by code Laufenburger So more is cleared than is allowed by code Jeffery Correct Laufenburger Okay Jeffery So really what you d be doing is extending you d be further increasing that which is already in violation Laufenburger Which is already over 30 which is allowed Okay So the presence of the tree actually is a good thing Jeffery Yes Laufenburger It provides vegetation and cover Jeffery Very much so and as Ms Auseth pointed out and Ms Beck had mentioned to me in the past it was her desire to save that tree Laufenburger Okay As far as you know is that still her desire Jeffery To the best of my knowledge yes That was the conversation that she had today Laufenburger That was my only question Thanks Larson I ve got a question in regard to if you could go back a couple slides This one okay Where this encroachment is on the neighbor s yard Is this an existing building already Or is this Auseth A different neighbor had called about this structure being built outlined in red Larson Right Auseth So when they called it was over the property line Larson But it s not currently there now It is there 10 91 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Auseth It is until after this meeting and then Larson Okay So what you guys are proposing or they are proposing is to move that structure over to where it s you know Okay so where the slash marks are is where it is now and the proposed is to move it Auseth Correct Larson Okay That was really my only question Papke Thank you I just have one question and it s probably for Mr Jeffery Could you just refresh all of our memories why it s so important to stay away from the toe of the bluff What is the justification for that The lake frontage is there Everybody knows you ve got to stay away from the lake but why is it so important to stay away from the bottom of the bluff Jeffery Chairman Papke we actually a discussion of this in house and choose my words carefully Under the if you want to call it the sonar rules Department of Natural Resources Shoreland Rules They are the ones that set the bluff setbacks from the side top and toe of slope And it is just set to be 30 feet either way The justification with the toe of slope as best I can figure is to prevent that person who is doing activities at the toe of slope from undermining that slope thereby creating an unstable toe of that slope Papke So would that be exacerbated by the loss of vegetation at the bottom of the slope there as well or is that compounding the situation Jeffery That would be a fair assumption yes That would compound the situation because you lose that which is creating the stability of that slope area You know in fairness it 30 feet could be seen as being a little more than is necessary but at the same time that is what the state rules are That s what the state guidelines are and our shoreland ordinances are approved by the state Papke Very good Thank you Okay We have no more questions from staff Do we have an applicant Step up to the podium and state your name and address for the record Nadine Beck Good evening My name is Nadine Beck I m coming from Switzerland Raised and born in Switzerland We bought the house at Ridge Road 6250 in April 2007 When we came for a visit for one week from Switzerland to find our new home our new life here in Chanhassen By the time then we didn t know what a wonderful property we were about to acquire We are all very sports orientated We love water skiing We love swimming and we love the life on the lake When we bought the house it was in a very good shape Only the lake area was in kind of a desperate situation exactly there where we now build that shed and deck There were lots of waste like an old deck An old door Glass bottles Just lots of waste Piles of waste Nobody seemed to mind Nobody complained that As I wanted to have the property in a nice as I wanted the property to be nice and tidy as the properties left and right and all around Christmas Lake I started to clear the area and what was left was kind of a waste area There were no plants There were no trees Well no there were big trees but no vegetation 11 92 Planning Commission January 6 2009 whatsoever so I waited and just wanted to see what would happen to the open space and all that grew were like weeds and blackberries and just we couldn t use the area anymore So I started to pull and I started to take away these plants Trying to sow grass Unfortunately I was very unlucky with the project So we looked around the lake and we saw a lot of different possibilities What other owners did to their lakeshore property and we did talk to a landscaper what he would suggest to do Unfortunately he didn t come up with a like reasonable solution and so we thought best idea would be a deck and a shed so we could at least walk on the property or on a part of the property and make use of it Well it is a funny situation to be here to saying not knowing is an excuse It is not We assumed that a removable and removable shed and deck would be allowed to build without allowance of the city We did talk to several people around the lake and that was the information we got and it does correspond with the law in Switzerland so it did make sense to me and when I talked to the builder we decided to make a floating removable deck and shed so the vegetation would not be how I say well it could still grow and you would not harm the land Saying to that the deck and shed are too close to the neighbor Of course when we found out that we did not respect the 10 feet we agreed to move There is a fence between two properties It is a green plastic fence and talking to the neighbors I ve asked who s fence it was and kind they said it was the pre owners fence because he wanted the dogs to walk between the two properties and we assumed it was the property line because I could not see why the pre owners would set up a fence in the neighbor s property And this was the mistake that was done by not respecting the distance to the neighbor s property We did try to respect the 10 feet to the water but we measured to the water and not to the high water level line and we did not know about the bluff That you had to respect the bluff Well that s about all I have to say And so when a project goes amiss I think everything goes amiss I think Mr Jeffery and I had quite a couple of good talks together Papke Okay Questions Larson So you re okay with moving this over Nadine Beck Of course I would not build on the neighbor s property I mean Larson Right Now that you know I would be mortified myself So have you taken into consideration the smaller deck that the city has proposed Is that something that I understand you want to be able to use as much of the area as possible Nadine Beck Of course you want to use as much of the area as possible Talking to Mr Jeffery and Ms Aanenson we wanted to go for the bigger deck if it would be possible because it just gives you the possibility to like have a chair and sit down with friends and have a nice evening and maybe have grill whereas the smaller deck there s nothing you can do with it I mean you can have it but it doesn t add anything to your outdoor life Larson Right Does the property or the house up above does it have some sort of a deck or area where you can Nadine Beck We have a porch 12 93 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Larson A porch Nadine Beck A porch That is like narrow and it s too small to put out a table on Larson Okay And then this building does it have any is it just an empty building Does it have Nadine Beck The small building Larson Yes Nadine Beck The shed Larson The shed Nadine Beck The shed is just empty for toys and water Larson So it s just a storage shed Nadine Beck It s just storage and we actually wanted to like rebuild the main house just in the same style It s not finished now so you can t see Larson Oh okay Alright very good That s all I have Thank you Laufenburger I have no questions Undestad Just on what the city proposed there for the smaller deck Can you I mean is there room to expand that a little bit in a couple directions and still get the clearances on there Nadine Beck Well what we also could do what I heard today first time is the thing about the 30 That there are not enough trees and we could around we can plant trees so there are more trees Again to I don t mind I don t mind trees I mean I just wanted to be able to use the area so if it helps we can also plant a couple trees around the deck or going to block whatever Undestad What is can you tell Terry what is the brown circle up on the bluff line there just north of the deck or just above the deck Is that a tree on there Jeffery That s a great question for Angie This thing Auseth It s another tree Undestad That is another tree Okay Nadine Beck Well there are many other trees there They re not the two only trees Papke Anything else Mark 13 94 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Undestad No Papke Okay thank you Denny Laufenburger Ms Beck welcome to the United States Nadine Beck Oh thank you Laufenburger We re happy to have you here Nadine Beck Well yeah you can say what I just wanted to say I can see you re all European some time ago Laufenburger Yeah Black Forest area for me Ms Beck did you build the home and the Nadine Beck No We bought the home as it was Laufenburger Okay Nadine Beck And really the only thing that was not like beautiful and perfect was that lake area and so we just tried to adapt the lake area to the rest of the property Laufenburger The other question I had you said that you consulted with some landscape people had made some recommendations Did they at any time suggest that you talk with the city of Chanhassen to see if there was any code Nadine Beck No No And we had some Mr Jeffery s already explained we had plans from the pre owners and there were like major constructions on there so I didn t know whether they run out of money and didn t do it or it was just a plan or whether they had the allowance to it I had no idea I didn t ask Laufenburger Okay Papke Okay I just have one question for you So the city has proposed the plan we see on the right up here which moves the shed and the deck into the very small area you have between the OHW setback and the bluff setback Is your main objection to what the city is proposing is it simply the size of the deck because your proposal also shows the shed back in the bluff setback here Do you have any issues with moving the shed out to where the city is proposing Nadine Beck No No not at all Papke Okay So the major issue for you is the size of the deck and that s it Nadine Beck Yeah It would just be a nice size deck where you can have that you can use 14 95 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Papke Okay I just wanted to make sure I understand what your major issue is Nadine Beck We said I could become like engineer or something after drawing all these things I m getting there Papke Any other questions for the applicant Okay thank you very much Nadine Beck Thank you Papke Okay at this time we ll open up the hearing to the public so if anybody sitting in the audience today would like to comment on this case if you d step up to the podium and give us your name and address and tell us what you think We d like to hear from you Jens Midthun Hello everyone and thank you very much for having me My name is Jens Midthun I live at 6225 Ridge Road which is the property on the shoreline directly to the north of the Beck property As well as kind of encompasses the Beck property to the east property as well and I ve been a long time resident of Chanhassen along with my family and I m speaking on behalf of my family when we say that the only issue we ever had was with the 10 foot setback and as long as that rule is followed we re strongly in support of the granting of all variances requested by the Beck s Just knowing how this property is It s very similar to our s except our s is thinner and the bluff comes right down and then you ve got the lakeshore and it s a long walk up and down Some of our neighbors have put in trams to bring them up and down and you know if you want to play in the water you know the Beck s have two small children They ve a very active water sports family You know I m 1 of 4 We re a very active family You want to hang out by the lake You want to be by the lake You want to have friends over and have some chairs Now I know we can sit in this room and say hey look all we have to do is make the deck smaller and then we ve easily followed all the rules but you know we re talking about a deck that to the Beck family is a very big deal You know that extra space is going to be space they use for a long time and really to anybody else and I m speaking as the person or group that would be most affected by this we will be affected nothing And the neighbors to the south now that it s 10 feet back will be affected none and none of the other neighbors will be affected at all so you know I just wanted to come and say I myself and my family are strongly in support of the granting of these variances Papke Okay Thank you very much Just to comment on some of the things you said there Just so you re aware that these the setbacks for the bluff and the lake are not to protect the neighbors It s to protect the lake Jens Midthun Right and Papke So I understand your concern Jens Midthun I m just speaking on behalf of the neighbors Papke Sure 15 96 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Jens Midthun And you know I can t say for certain but I can speculate that the reason this was filed in the first place was a sort of neighbor thing by a neighbor who would not be affected at all so on the neighborhood side of it Papke Thank you for speaking up I appreciate it Anybody else like to come up to the podium I see a couple more people in the audience here Anybody else There we go Tara Wetzel Hi My name is Tara Wetzel Dena Wetzel And I m Dena Wetzel and we re the neighbors on the south Our parents actually are the neighbors on the south and they re very old and my dad s recovering from treatment for prostate cancer and they just couldn t really make it here tonight so they asked us to come in And we weren t even really going to say anything because we re just you know happy that the setback on the side is going to be honored and that definitely was very important to us Tara Wetzel But we also wanted to say that we are neighbors in that area as well and we know that Jens spoke for his family and we also wanted to get up and just mention that you know we obviously feel that for them we would never want to you know have them not ever have that space down there I mean we have one My father s lived at Christmas Lake now for Dena Wetzel Over 55 years he s been on that property And my sister s going to live there after that Tara Wetzel Hopefully Dena Wetzel We re hoping to span a whole hundred years Tara Wetzel We don t quite make the whatever but Dena Wetzel So we d like to work out the property tax part Tara Wetzel So we d like to stay there and keep that and you know and I think that looking back on it you know the Beck s really came into a situation where the prior owners clear cut the whole hill They clear cut the whole lakeshore and that was a huge issue for my parents because it wasn t being addressed by the City Council and it got to the point where it really became an issue for our family because my mother stressed a lot about it And so I think their biggest thing is they really want to feel that they re being justified in the sense that it s following the code and that people are being respectful of that and we do appreciate that you know it is moved back I mean they didn t know The green fence was our s It was a dog It s just a green little thing that I bought at Home Depot to keep our dogs off of their property and going into their they have a lawn and sand and the dogs like to go over there so we kept that up because the Brabeck s were not interested in having dogs over there And so Laufenburger That was the previous owners is that correct 16 97 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Tara Wetzel Correct And so we kept that up and that was our s and I even said that I would take it down because it is ugly but it was serving it s purpose you know Dena Wetzel The other neighbor hated dogs Tara Wetzel So Dena Wetzel And they like dogs and they re great neighbors because they don t you know they re we re all very tolerate More tolerate Tara Wetzel And my children and their children play all the time They have a great sandy beach and I mean we are welcome over there and their children are welcome over to our dock as well and so but just we wanted to get up and just let you know that we are involved in this and we do feel that it s important and you know that they need to have a space down there too It is beautiful space I can understand why they want somewhere to put their things because we fill our s up with a lot of plastic things that our kids now tend to use but we just wanted to let you know that it s you know our parents wanted us to come and just be a present and let you know that they are there They may not be here but they are concerned about it and they really feel that you know my dad spent years watering all the trees on Ridge Road during the droughts and he s been invested in that area for a long time and he really feels that we do need to make sure that we are holding to so that the area and as I said before that the area I guess is kept in a natural state but you know the Beck s did come into a situation that had been clear cutted and I don t know the erosion part coming down the hill I m sure is also an issue for them but you know it s just where s the fine line You know we don t want any ill feelings because we do enjoy spending time with them and so we just wanted to Dena Wetzel We trust you guys to make the right decision You know we Tara Wetzel And I think obviously you re talking and I think that s what my parents would like to know that there is a discussion between them and you and something will be resolved Dena Wetzel Thanks Tara Wetzel Thank you Papke Thank you very much Appreciate you coming tonight Anybody else Going once Going twice Before I close the public hearing I d just like to make note that the city did receive several items of correspondence from some of the other neighbors in the area and they were not as supportive as the folks who came to the meeting tonight But just so for the record here we do take into account not only what s said during the public hearing but also the correspondence that we receive before the meeting so we take that all into consideration With that if there s no one else who d like to step up I will close the public hearing and bring it back to the commission for discussion We ll start with you Aanenson Mr Chairman if I could just make one point Just something for you to think about through this process which I think caused some consternation up there and that was the clear 17 98 Planning Commission January 6 2009 cutting of that lot Obviously I think that created some feelings out there for some of the neighbors on the lake and so whatever you re thinking about tonight for mitigation I think that should be something that you may want to take into consideration The re vegetation It sounds like Mrs Beck is willing to do that That might be something to take into consideration Larson Well gosh I tell you after reading all this and then having it all in person I m getting a whole different perspective of what I got before I walked in here The fact of the matter is it was an accidental and they re trying to make it right and I think one of the questions I think Mark was trying to get through is there any possibility that they could go any larger on the deck around this thing or if this is the actual maximum that we could do Aanenson Yeah you d have to grant a variance if you want to go bigger than that and that s what I m saying If you re going that way then I would certainly recommend mitigation for that would be some revegetation Larson Say that again Aanenson They re at the maximum for the deck that we re showing on here I think it was 4 3 feet 4 additional feet Larson So mitigation Aanenson Compensation would be to allow the deck to go bigger you would recommend that they plant additional trees Or whatever vegetation is recommended to help stabilize the slope for one and I think that was some of the issues that some of the neighbors on the lake had concern with when that got clear cut Larson Well I would propose a friendly amendment then to see if the city would consider that or you guys If they were to plant you know maybe you guys could set a certain amount of trees or a type of trees or whatever I mean if honestly I ve got a deck that s the size that they re proposing and it s where we spend all of our summer I love it It s my favorite place Every morning I go out and have my coffee It s great To knock that down to one half just really you know certainly would cut down on the enjoyment of it I think and if the city would be willing to even consider that I wish that had been written in here because Aanenson We can t consider that That s you have the ability to grant the variance and that would be your decision if you chose to recommend a variance To go larger than Angie had shown on staff s recommendation And if you wanted to grant a variance so the only variance you d be granting one to go into the bluff setback and increasing the hard coverage Just in the bluff Just the accessory structure You remember that was already a two story I mean excuse me A separate garage Laufenburger The attached 18 99 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Aanenson That was attached so that s what was putting them towards the top so they ve maximized the lot so there s an issue that they only have so much square footage available I ll let Angie speak to that Auseth According to code they can go up to 250 square feet for a water oriented accessory structure Due to the detached garage they re limited to 190 square feet because they would go over that 1 000 square feet so that would be the variance that you would be recommending Aanenson So looking at that language just to be clear again the language would be for the variance for an accessory structure you re allowing great than that and would it impact the bluff setback also Undestad Can I clarify My comment on there was can they expand it and stay within the boundaries without going into the bluff Aanenson If they went longer If they went longer instead of deeper Undestad Right Aanenson Correct Laufenburger But in order to do that the combined square footage of I ll use the term detached and it s the combined the detached garage that s already in place and like I said they re not going to cut off any of that Aanenson No Laufenburger So that s going to remain in place So the only amount that they can add is essentially about 190 square feet Auseth Right Laufenburger And whether it s a shed which goes vertical or a deck it s what you re looking at is how many square feet if you were looking down Auseth Correct Aanenson That s correct Laufenburger Okay So I think if I don t want to interpret this but I think what you were looking at is could that orange area get bigger It could It would remain within the ordinary high water and the bluffs those two setbacks So that could get bigger and perhaps in exchange we could say okay we would allow you to increase that by maybe another 100 square feet or 150 square feet in exchange for doing something to replace or revegetate that which was clear cutted which was done by apparently the previous owners 19 100 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Jeffery Mr Chairman if I may I think it s also important to note though that if we go over the 250 square foot allowed for an accessory water structure now we re just entered into another variance so I think I would caution you to go beyond the 250 square feet that would be allowed for a water accessory structure Laufenburger So are you saying the shed and the deck is defined as the accessory water structure Jeffery Correct And right now what is shown is 190 square feet So they could go an additional 60 square feet Just looking at that one portion of it To answer yeah They could build it entirely within that allowed zoning It would not encroach into the shoreland setback nor would it encroach in the bluff setback It would become a much more linear feature than it is But then we get back to the other variance which is total detached structures allowed on a property and they only have 4 square feet So you could depending on how you want to go you could say alright we can give them a water accessory structure within the 250 square feet No variance needed We can get it outside the bluff setback No variance needed Outside shoreline no variance needed But no matter what you will need a variance for the total allowed or not attached accessory structures Auseth 56 square feet Undestad And how big of an area do we say we had clear cut on there Jeffery Oh yeah It s substantial I mean that would be to work with the Beck s to come up with a mitigation plan that would not be an undue hardship to them for reforestation plan but would still offer a definite benefit I think that could easily be worked out Yeah it s a substantial area Undestad So if I the understanding is the deck you could only add 60 square feet onto that existing orange area right now Jeffery Correct Undestad And what that does is put them 56 square feet over the total package of detached structures Auseth Correct Jeffery Well said Undestad So is that 56 Larson Is that a different meeting to get that variance Aanenson No No we can There s a lot of rules in play here But you have all the variances requested so whatever you know we re trying to steer you in the direction to 20 101 Planning Commission January 6 2009 minimize I think what Mr Jeffery is saying is that we don t want to increase the accessory structure of the lake It appears if you want to go that way you re going to increase the square footage for accessory structures but we don t want to increase it just for the water oriented The 250 We want to keep that capped Does that make sense Undestad So if we let them add the 60 feet on there then we re talking about do we allow them 56 square foot overage on the detached and is that worth the trade off on some trees and Aanenson Correct Exactly That s kind of where we re at yeah Laufenburger Then in that case the only variance would be the variance on the detached Square footage Aanenson That s correct Papke Mr Jeffery what is the best thing for Christmas Lake Assuming these people are you know they re going to have barbeques down there Okay Are we better off with them barbequing on a deck or barbequing on the ground What s the best thing for the lake Jeffery Chairman Papke that s a loaded question Papke I thought it was a pretty simple one actually Jeffery It is It s a good question It s one I ve struggled with because a deck by definition is not hard cover It s not impervious surface but clearly it changes the drainage pattern in an area It changes the way the rainfall falls It changes the way it runs off It changes the time it takes to get to the lake So whenever you can minimize that hard surface it s always got to be the preferred thing to do Having said that by definition a deck is not hard cover We don t by our code call it a hard surface And I think decks can be designed such that they will not you know design it so it doesn t drain directly towards the lake Put screening around it If to go back though then there s another thing So if we had an open pit fire along the lake and we throw rock around it and we ve now denuded all the vegetation in the area because we re walking around on that area we re packing it down as we walk We ve burnt off all the vegetation Is that a good desirable thing No Absolutely not So in the sense that having a deck actually steers people to an area where they re no longer walking around the bluff area They re no longer trampling vegetation Yeah I think it actually is in this case an environmentally sound thing to do You know within limitations Papke Thank you That s what I was looking for From my perspective my big concern here is when we break when we start precedent Laufenburger Are we in closed Papke No we re still just chatting here amongst friends Laufenburger Alright 21 102 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Papke My concern with this one is the triple jeopardy that we re kind of stepping into with breaking three different precedents here And as we all know lakeshore property in Chanhassen is notorious for people asking for such things and this is one of the few variances for a lake front I ve seen in a while where the applicant didn t say well there s 5 other houses right up the lake that all had it Why can t I have it Nadine Beck I could Papke So from that perspective I am it makes me nervous to think that we re going to create more precedent for future such events so I d like the commissioners to take that into account when we deliberate on that With that said I want to do what s right for Christmas Lake This is one of the jewels of Chanhassen and we should do what s right for the lake as well and for the homeowners I certainly think the homeowner in play here you know I had some concerns coming into the meeting that things were done in somewhat of a cavalier fashion and from what I ve heard tonight I think it s simply a case of someone who s coming into a new culture and simply didn t understand the myriad of rules and regulations that unfortunately living on the lake entails in the United States So what do we want to do here I will entertain a motion Whatever that motion might be Laufenburger So are we closed now Is this Papke Sure Unless you want to say something else Laufenburger Well I d like to express my views I think that like you water property in Chanhassen like Christmas Lake that is we have to protect that And the big picture is protected by making lots of small picture decisions so I consider this a this is a big decision for the backs of those neighbors Even though it s a small one it still is a you know we can start this protection with this one good step I m inclined to allow the variance on the detached by giving the property owner an opportunity to increase by 60 square feet on the deck Remain within the area between the ordinary high water and the bluff setback in exchange for what the city would consider acceptable revegetation Whether that s grass Shrubbery And I don t know where that should go If you should go at the toe of the slope or if it should go closer to the water line but I would be inclined to do something like that That s my inclination Papke If you re so inclined then I suggest you make a motion to that effect Laufenburger So moved Papke Would you like to state formally for the record what you re proposing Laufenburger Mr Chairman Papke Could you state which of the variances you d like to allow and which ones you d like to deny Maybe if we start with them 22 103 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Laufenburger Let me just do a little bit of checking before I do that Perhaps you want to get comments from others first Undestad I guess I d just like to throw a comment in there Papke Sure go ahead Undestad What we re looking at is 60 square feet We re going to give up you get another 1 1 2 2 lawn chairs or something on there You know I don t think that s going to get the Beck s what they re looking for on there What that does though by us doing that then also opens up the variance and starts that you know what about the next one and the next one I think if it was more you know and add 60 square feet onto the end of that deck out there you know how much landscaping how much revegetation can we say alright You need to put in you know it doesn t make sense to make them spend 5 000 in trees for a 60 square foot deck Aanenson Well it s actually 250 total of surface coverage Undestad Of surface But we re only giving them another 60 feet onto that deck Down by the lake and that s what I understand what they re trying to accomplish there so So I m not sure we re really doing any good with that all Papke So are you saying you re in a mood to deny all of the variances that would be your preference Undestad Yes Papke Debbie you had some thoughts Larson Well you know you guys are talking about setting precedence This is kind of a unique place in my opinion We re talking a property that was clear cut before they moved in And the fact that they want to you know revegetate or she s tried She s put in an effort to do things and it just hasn t worked And then the fact that if they want to do any kind of barbequing or having entertainment of people down there basically saying that it would be better to have a deck there rather than having open space and people you know lighting fires on the grass and whatever I am more inclined to allow a larger deck area even you know so then we would go into the what are we calling it The accessory structure Laufenburger That would be the water Aanenson Water oriented Let me just talk about that for a minute because Shorewood doesn t allow water oriented structures so those are some of the things that causes the consternation The clear cutting aside really isn t affecting this This side of the lake is very steep As the neighbors have indicated there are people that have lifts You know it is steep We recognize that That s the choice on some of those lots to get that view up on top So if we go above the 250 that becomes an issue for some of the people on the other side of the lake too because Shorewood doesn t allow the accessory structures That s a DNR requirement which we ve adopted We do 23 104 Planning Commission January 6 2009 allow that but that was some of the angst that you saw in some of the other letters too So that was our concern in going above that for the 250 That could cause some issues so I m just throwing that out to you so you understand the background of that however you feel on that Larson Well you know when you say that will cause issues with another city Aanenson No with other people on the lake That s at 250 We don t have people that are above that 250 you know so you re giving somebody down there because they re all in that situation with lifts going down there to go above that So I m saying the clear cutting wasn t the issue with it It s the square footage Larson Right No I understand that but you were talking about the mitigation with the adding of the trees and Aanenson Yeah I don t know That s if you choose to do that or not choose to do that that s fine Laufenburger Are you saying that the city of Chanhassen has no regulations regarding clear cutting of land Aanenson No That s not what I m saying Laufenburger Do we have regulations regarding clear cutting of the land Aanenson Yes Laufenburger Okay Papke But we re not we re not granting a variance for performing that action tonight Larson Right Laufenburger And clearly had the previous owners come to us and say we want to clear cut this Aanenson Or if somebody would have called us we would have stopped it Clear cutting happens and we re not always informed and aware of it until somebody calls Laufenburger To the comment earlier about the City Council not doing anything about it we can only act on that which we know about Aanenson That s correct Laufenburger Yeah okay 24 105 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Papke So for the purposes of our discussion tonight the vegetation is a non issue other than the fact that this area is more sensitive as a result of that clear cutting because of the increased propensity for erosion Aanenson That s correct Papke Okay Larson Do we know what this path is made of Or is it just a dirt path Auseth The steps Aanenson We can go back to this Larson Is it steps Laufenburger It s rock steps Larson Does that count towards the hard surface coverage Auseth It counts towards the hard surface coverage but it s not counted towards the detached accessory structure Larson Which is our issue Alright Okay Undestad So one more question for staff If we deny this the way it sits can they come back and talk to Terry and you and Aanenson Yes Undestad Possibly talk about doing some trading for some landscaping and revegetation Aanenson Sure Sure and the first approach would be they have the right to appeal Anybody aggrieved of this decision has a right to appeal it so it would go to City Council if that s the case And so between then and now whatever you recommend if they still want to offer up some other solutions between when it goes to City Council between your recommendation when it goes to City Council that something else can be offered up which has happened before Or the council could table it and ask them to work on it or you could table it and ask them to work on some things You have several choices Papke I would prefer not to table this one tonight I think we have plenty of information right here I think to make a decision Are you ready to make a motion Denny or would anyone else like to jump the gun and go ahead and make one Ready to roll Laufenburger I think I can in just a moment 25 106 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Larson Okay we ll chit chat some more Laufenburger Go ahead Debbie Larson I really don t have anything else to say Jeffery I would like to emphasize I think that many of the neighbors had pointed out tonight I think it is really key when they said what we do on this micro scale affects the macro scale of this lake Christmas Lake is unique in a number of ways but more than anything else in that it is considered within the seven county metro area to be one of if not the nicest lakes in terms of water quality Water clarity Vegetative diversity Plants species diversity so any small impact made on one lot that down the road affects down the lakeshore then we end up with no longer having that phenomenal water body that we have Papke Which is why I asked you what was the right thing to do for the lake That did not lead to a clear choice Larson Well if they hadn t had the accessory garage on the top of the hill they could have done the whole thing how they would like to do it correct Papke 250 accessory structure Water accessory structure Larson Oh Oh oh Papke That s why we have the triple jeopardy problem We have three variances that all have to be broken Larson So why isn t that part of an accessory structure I m just killing time here while he s writing Auseth It s defined in the code as part of the water oriented accessory structure Larson Okay Jeffery A structure that we ve got a lake down there and we want to be by it and use it Papke This is going to be a heck of a motion I can see it coming Aanenson Just to be clear Commissioner Laufenburger you don t have to recommend denial If you re just going to recommend approval on one issue you only have to recommend that You don t have to and just say denial of the other requests You don t have to be that specific on those if you don t Laufenburger Yeah okay Aanenson If you re trying to do the math that s all I was trying to say Okay 26 107 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Laufenburger Yeah okay Mr Chairman I recommend the Chanhassen Planning Commission approve Planning Case 08 23 with variance for detached accessory structure variance for the construction of a 250 square foot water oriented structure located at 6250 Ridge Road with conditions 1 and 2 on page 9 of the staff report Condition number 1 modified to read 250 square feet And adoption of the attached Findings of Fact and action plus Or conditioned upon applicant providing revegetation of the clear cut area to meet approval of city planning department Papke So just to be clear what your motion contains here We are denying the bluff variance Laufenburger Correct Papke We are denying the water oriented accessory structure variance but we are allowing a variance on the detached accessory structure in amount of 60 feet Laufenburger 56 feet We re exceeding the detached structure variance by 56 feet Papke Okay I got it Okay is that clear to everyone What we re proposing Aanenson Clarification on the motion if does go forward that we would reflect those changes also in the Findings of Fact Papke Yes Is there a second for this motion Larson I ll second it Papke Does anybody have any amendments they d like to propose If not I will hear a vote Laufenburger moved Larson seconded that the Planning Commission approves Planning Case 08 23 for a 56 square foot detached accessory structure variance for the construction of a 250 square foot water oriented structure and denies the bluff setback and water oriented accessory structure size limitation variance requests on property 6250 Ridge Road and adoption of the Findings of Fact with the following conditions 1 The combined square footage of the water oriented accessory structure shed deck may not exceed 250 square feet 2 A building or zoning permit must be applied for and approved prior to completion of the water oriented structure to ensure compliance with City Code 3 The applicant and staff will work out a re vegetation plan for the clear cut area to meet the approval of staff All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0 27 108 Planning Commission January 6 2009 Papke Thank you very much That was a difficult deliberation and a difficult motion and I think we carried it out with great dispatch Thank you Denny for a difficult assignment With that that s the end of our public hearing items APPROVE OF MINUTES Commissioner Larson noted the verbatim and summary minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated December 2 2008 as presented Chairman Papke adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 8 20 p m Submitted by Kate Aanenson Community Development Director Prepared by Nann Opheim 28 109 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 Fax 952 227 1404 Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Web Site www ci chanhassen mn us lb 1l Ill 1l M MEMORANDUM TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager FROM Planning Department a 1 DATE January 26 2009 SUBJ City Code Amendments Chapter 20 Zoning PROPOSED MOTION The Chanhassen City Council adopts the attached ordinance amending Chapter 20 of the Chanhassen City Code dealing with Conditional Use Permits and Interim Use Permits Approval of this item requires a simple majority vote BACKGROUND The Planning Commission held a public hearing on the attached ordinance amendment on June 17 2008 at which time they voted unanimously to recommend approval to the City Council The amendment went before the City Council at a work session on July 28 2008 but was not reviewed at that time The amendment went before the City Council at a work session on August 11 2008 but was not reviewed at that time The amendment then went before the City Council at a work session on August 25 2008 It should be noted that this change has already been made to the variance section of the City Code This amendment was submitted to the City Council as part of the September 8 2008 agenda for approval However this amendment was pulled to allow staff to address an issue with the Autobahn Motorplex conditional use permit which was ultimately amended by City Council on December 8 2008 to permit the phased expansion and potential lot line changes approved for the project CONDITONAL USE AND INTERIM USE PERMITS ISSUE There are some properties within the City that have obtained a Conditional Use Permit or an Interim Use Permit which has been recorded against the property In some cases the property lines are altered or subdivided years later This poses a few problems there may be multiple owners for the subdivided properties governed by the CUP IUP or with the addition of new lot lines the site plan has changed and the site may be in violation of the conditions of approval It is difficult to maintain the conditions of approval on a property that has been sold to new owners who mayor may not be aware of the permits governing these sites Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 110 Todd Gerhardt January 26 2009 Page 2 of 2 Staff is proposing to add language to the Conditional Use and Interim Use sections of the city code that subdivision of the property shall deem the CUP or IUP null and void PROPOSED CHANGES Amend Section 20 233 by adding subparagraph c to read as follows c It is a condition of every conditional use permit that the property for which the permit is issued not be subdivided or the lot lines of the property altered Amend Section 20 323 by adding subparagraph 4 to read as follows 4 Upon the subdivision of the property or the alteration of the lot lines of the property RECOMMENDATION Staff and the Planning Commission recommend that the City Council adopt the following motion The Chanhassen City Council adopts the attached ordinance amending Chapter 20 of the Chanhassen City Code dealing with Conditional Use Permits and Interim Use Permits A 1 1 ACHMEN1 1 Ordinance Amending Chapter 20 of the Chanhassen City Code g plan city codc 2009 code amcndments cc memo cllp illp void doc 111 CITY OF CHANHASSEN CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA ORDINANCE NO AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 20 ZONING CHANHASSEN CITY CODE THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CHANHASSEN MINNESOTA ORDAINS Section 1 The City Code City of Chanhassen Minnesota is hereby amended by adding a section to be numbered 20 233 c which shall read as follows It is a condition of every conditional use permit that the property for which the permit is issued not be subdivided or the lot lines of the property altered Section 2 The City Code City of Chanhassen Minnesota is hereby amended by adding a section to be numbered 20 323 4 which shall read as follows Upon the subdivision of the property or the alteration of the lot lines of the property Section 3 This ordinance shall be effective immediately upon its passage and publication PASSED AND ADOPTED this 26th day of January 2009 by the City Council of the City of Chanhassen Minnesota Todd Gerhardt City Manager Thomas A Furlong Mayor Published in the Chanhassen Villager on 112 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 Fax 952 227 1404 Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Web Site www ci chanhassen mn us Gordy Stauff Engineering Technician IV Construction Manager j t t1 MEMORANDUM O TO Paul Oelune Director ofPubli Works City Engineer 7 FROM DATE January 26 2009 SUBJ Fox Hill Project No 07 08 Accept Streets and Utility Improvements PROPOSED MOTION The City Council accept the street and utility improvements in Fox Hill Project No 07 08 for perpetual maintenance and ownership City Council approval requires a simple majority vote of the City Council present Staff has received a letter from Cara Otto Project Engineer with Otto Associates requesting the City consider acceptance of the street and utility improvements in the above referenced project According to Ms Otto the public streets and utility improvements have been completed in conformance with the approved plans and specifications City has staffpen ormed a walk through inspection of the project and found the improvements to b in satisfactory condition Jms Attachments 1 2 Letter from Cara Otto Location Map c Alyson Fauske Assistant City Engineer Cara Otto Otto AssociatJs Scott Rosenlund I Dave Parrott Parrott Excavating g eng projects f j fox hil1 accept streets utilities doc Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow ic w 1 113 TTO SSOCIATES ENGINEERS LAND SURVEYORS INC November 13 2008 Gordy Stauff City ofChanhassen 7700 Market Boulevard Chanhassen MN 55317 0147 RE FOX HILL Otto Project No 2 07 0421 Dear Mr Stauff The street and utilities for the FOX HILL project is complete and has been constructed in accordance with the approved plans and specifications On behalf ofthe Developer I am requesting that the Chanhassen City Council accept the improvements Sincerely Otto Associates Engineers and Land Surveyors Inc h Cara Schwahn Otto P E Cc Scott Rosenlund 10Spring Homes Pat H Source Construction Capital Dave Parrott Parrott Excavating CITY OF CHAi lHASSE l 1Rl w rQ NOV 1 9 2008 ENGINEERING DEPT 9 WEST DIVISION STREET BUFFALO MINN 55313 763 682 4727 FAX 763 682 3522 114 FOX HILL LOCATION MAP 0 N A 115 cflf L PATROL DIVISION CHANHASSEN STATION Memo To Mayor City Council tW From Lieutenant Jim Olson Date 01 15 09 Re Items for January Council Meeting 1 Sheriff s Office Area Report December Attached 2 Sheriffs Office Area Citation List December Attached 3 Crime Alerts issued by Crime Prevention Specialist 4 Community Service Officer Report for December 5 Community Service Officer s Year End Report 6 Miscellaneous Items I will have brief information for Council on recent activities or items of interest 116 City of Chanhassen 2008 Month of December 117 Listed below is a description of each of the different classifications of calls for service which the Carver County Sheriffs Office received and processed for your area ICRIMINAL Part I Crimes Arson Assault Aggravated Burglary Homicide Robbery Sex Crime felony Theft Theft Vehicle Intentionally destroy property by fire Assault where substantial injury is caused or deadly weapon used Breaking into a residence or business Intentional taking of a persons life Taking of property in the presence of another with use of force Forcible sexual assault All felony sex crimes Taking of property stealing Theft of a motorized vehicle Part II Crimes Abuse Neglect Chargeable abuse or neglect of children or adults Assault Altercation between parties where actual physical harm occurred Court Order Violations Violation of court orders Disturb Peace Chargeable disturbance of peace Harassment disorderly conduct Drug Violation All drug violations possession of sale of manufacture of Gambling Unlawful operate promote or assist in the operation of gaming Liquor Laws Illegal Consumption sale or possession of liquor Misc Criminal Minor offenses that do not fall under any other classification Property Damage All damage to property including vandalism littering and trespassing on property Runaway Juvenile runaway Sex Crimes Misc sex crimes criminal sexual conduct sexual abuse pornography indecent exposure non felony sex crimes Suspicious Activity Suspicious activity where charges result Theft Related Fraud credit card theft 10 theft issuance on bad check counterfeiting swindle Traffic Alcohol Traffic stop or accident involving a driver under the influence of alcohol or drugs Traffic Other Traffic stop that results in a traffic criminal charge DAC IPS Hit and Run Weapons Violation of ll lanufacture sale purchase transport use of firearm 118 NON CRIMINAL Abuse Neglect NC Investigation of abuse or neglect of a child or adult where no charges are filed Alarm Checking on an alarm at a private residence or business Animal Animal bites stray animals All calls involving animals Assist other Agency Assist other law enforcement office state patrol or government departments Auto Accd Fatality Auto accident in which a fatality occurred Auto Accd Injury Auto accident in which injury and property damage occurred Auto Accd Prop Damage Auto accident in which property damage occurred AutoAccd MV vs Deer Auto accident involving a motor vehicle and deer Background Record Checks Records check for persons adopting a child military govt employment individual Boat Water All incidents involving boats watercraft and or lakes Child Care Assistance All background checks for Social Service unlicensed child care assistance Child Custody Dispute Incidents involving dispute over child custody Civil Process Service of civil papers court orders Assist with civil stand by situations Disturb Peace NC Noise harassments disturbance of peace where charges are not filed Domestic Verbal argument between parties with relationship where no charges are filed Driving Complaint Complaints of bad driving behavior Drug Information Information regard drug activity No charges filed Fire Call Fires and assist to fire departments Gun Permit Acquire Application for a permit to purchase a handgun Gun Permit Carry Application for a permit to carry a handgun Gun Permit Transfer Applicaton for the transfer of one registered gun to another Explosive Firearms Dfr Application for a permit for explosives or firearms dealer license House Business Check Check on residences or business when owners are away from property License Day Care Background check for licensing day care License Foster Care Background check for licensing foster care License Liquor Background check for liquor licensing License Peddler Background check for peddler licensing Medical Assist persons with medical issues natural cause deaths Mental Health Suicides 72 hr holds for mental health issues Misc Non Criminal General law enforcement questions citizen assists name changes lost and found prop civil matters council packets and meetings juv disciplinary issues etc Missing Person Missing Lost person Open Door Located an open door to a business or residence Prowler NC Person on property who does not belong window peeper No charges filed Sex Offender Tracking Request from State to check location of registered sex offender Snowmobile All incidents involving snowmobiles Suspicious Act NC Suspicious persons acts or vehicles no charges Traffic Misc Misc traffic issues stalled vehicle debris on roadway traffic control parking violations vehicle in the ditch and motorist assists iTraffic Radar Display Traffic Speed Radar wagon ITraffic Stops All traffic stops initiated by officers Transport Transport persons for various reasons Unlock Veh Bldg Unlock doors of automobile residence or business for owners Warrant Issued Warrant issued by Carver County Court Administration Warrant Service Service of warrant for Carver County and other counties 119 CARVER COUNTY SHERIFF S OFFICE City of Chanhassen Month of December 2008 2008 2007 2007 I i I M rl I I M TH I I rimes 0 0 0 5 0 3 0 4 2 34 1 58 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0 5 21 323 20 339 1 22 4 16 4 7 2 427 0 0 1 1 6 59 6 53 3 24 5 15 5 78 7 104 3 41 7 46 0 0 0 0 1 27 2 45 3 29 4 32 8 200 14 279 0 17 0 26 0 4 1 11 0 0 1 1 13 123 17 125 6 81 6 79 1 9 2 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00 00 co co 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 co 0 0 CO co co co 0 0 n 0 1 f l C I f 1 C I r 1 f l 01 01 1 I I C l f Cl 0 23 Q l N r i N oj 01 N r r r 5 cO I 2 0 SO 2 0 2 0 01 en N N 1 r1 0l 1 en 01 01 N i 01 0i 01 r 1 I W J Vl J Vl Z n I C In t oo Q 0 00 t 01 01 00 r 1 00 Z t 00 f r r q C In C 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 s S S S s 3 ES s s 0 J 0 1 I T 0 0 0 0 0 co co 0 0 0 0 e e 0 I 0 V V f n n n n f In In n n n l r 01 01 8 I 01 01 01 r j J I r I I I I 1 0 cae co 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 e e 134 @ lu@0i lu@ @0i @ut ili @ f@W@Oi O@Oi @@ fW@ f @@lliIOi @ lu@u1M @ @@ CITY OF CJJANHASSEN Public Safety Reminder Chanhassen Burglaries 12 09 08 Overall the news is good year to date the number of burglaries reported in Chanhassen during 2008 is down from 2007 and 2006 However two 2 recent residential burglaries reported in Chanhassen serve as a reminder that citizens should remain diligent with daily prevention measures to keep their homes safe On 11 24 08 a daytime burglary occurred in an unoccupied home On 12 08 08 a burglary occurred overnight while the family was at home and asleep It appears that both homes were entered through unlocked doors The incidents are not believed to be connected as the Carver County Sheriff s Office has arrested a suspect responsible for the 11 24 08 burglary Burglary locations Flintlock Trail Suspect Arrested Horseshoe Curve Reduce the Risk of Home Burglary A simple and effective first step to preventing home burglaries is locking doors and windows In 2007 and 2008 71 of the home burglaries reported in Chanhassenwere non forced entries After dark or when leaving the house make sure that exterior doors including the garage and ground floor windows are closed and locked Deck and patio doors are a common point of entry in a burglary Make sure all exterior doors are equipped with good quality locks When gone even just for the evening create the illusion that there is activity in your home by using timers on interior lights Use motion detectors on exteriors lights especially near entrances in isolated areas Record serial numbers and take pictures of other valuables such as jewelry A serial number from a lap top computer that was recently stolen in Chanhassen led to the identification of a suspect Before leaving on a trip o Ask neighbors to keep an eye on your home and encourage them to immediately call 911 if they observe suspicious activity o Have mail and newspaper delivery stopped o Arrange to have your driveway and sidewalk promptly cleared of snow Remain watchful of activity in your neighborhood Don t worry about bothering the police The City of Chanhassen and Carver County Sheriff s Office would like to encourage citizens to immediately call 911 when they hear or observe activity that appears suspicious For more information on how to secure your home call Chanhassen Crime Prevention at 952 227 1610 135 December CSO Highlights 65 Total Calls CITY OF CHANHASSEN Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Animal Wild animal calls 0 December Comparison 6 Barking Dog 3 2007 2008 Animal at large 3 Impounds Lock Outs 13 Lock Outs 3 Animal 14 Animal 6 Miscellaneous 0 Traffic 45 Traffic 34 Code 11 Code 5 Traffic Personal injury crash 2 Other 15 Other 11 Parks 05 Parks 6 34 Property Damage crash 6 Total 90 Total 65 Stall Motorist assist 12 Other Traffic 5 Vehicle Lock Out 3 Parks Park Ordinance Enforcement 6 Code Enforcement 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 Fax 952 227 1404 5 Junked Vehicle 1 Parking 4 Year To Date Comparison Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Outdoor Storage 0 2007 20 8 Misc 0 Lock Outs 83 Lock Outs Animal 319 Animals Traffic 427 Traffic Code 234 Code Other 244 Other Parks 179 Parks 80 313 386 229 233 173 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Other Medicals 6 11 Fire Calls 5 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Other Total 1479 Total 1414 Found Property 0 Web Site www ci chanhassen mn us Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 136 lb J n tX CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT P O Box 97 7610 Laredo Drive Chanhassen MN 55317 Bus Phone 952 227 1200 Minnewashta Station NO 2 Phone 952 474 7094 MEMORANDUM TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager FROM Gregg Geske Fire Chief Roger Smallbeck 1st Assistant Chief Randy Wahl 2nd Assistant Chief Mark Littfin Fire Marshal O s I Cori Wallis Training Officer DATE January 13 2009 SUBJ Monthly City Council Update Fire Department Overview Staffing is at 41 active firefighters and 2 probationary firefighters as of January 3 2009 allocation is 45 PTE s We finished 2008 with a total of 539 calls down 32 from 2007 Of the 539 calls 24 were structure fires and we responded to 214 medical calls As of January 12 2009 we have responded to 12 calls down four from the same time period last year We did have a storage building fire and responded to mutual aid from Eden Prairie on a house fire since our last council update Training This month s training consisted of EMT and First Responder medical refresher classes Fire Marshal Fire Prevention Nothing new to report on at this time Fire Investigations The only fire to report on was on January 5 2009 at 1505 Bluff Creek Drive at 5 40 p m The call came in as a shed fire Upon arrival a fire was discovered in a pole barn The fire was extinguished within 10 minutes and damage was limited to contents and a 137 small part of the building structure The fire was caused by combustible chairs placed too close to a wood burning stove Fire Inspections New and existing building projects at various stages of construction Carver County License Center Chanhassen High School IDI Building on Audubon Road Autobahn Motorplex Snap BIG Building Super Dog kennels Walgreens Grizzly s Pizza and K Hovnanian Town Homes tr 138 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 Fax 952 227 1404 Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Web Site www ci chanhassen mn us 3 41 MEMORANDUM Paul Oehme Director of Public Works City Engineer 1 TO FROM Alyson Fauske Assistant City Engineer DATE January 26 2009 D SUBJECT 2009 Street Improvement Project Project No 09 01 Hold Public Hearing Authorize Preparation of Plans and Specifications PROPOSED MOTION The City Council is recommended to authorize the preparation of plans and specifications for the 2009 Street Improvement Project City Project 09 01 City Council approval requires a simple majority vote ofthe City Council present BACKGROUND Staff and City Council reviewed the proposed 2009 Street Improvement Project areas at the October 13 2008 work session City Council authorized the preparation of the 2009 Street Improvement Project Feasibility Study at the October 27 2008 City Council meeting The first neighborhood open house was held on November 12 2008 Over 27 property owners attended At the January 12 2009 meeting City Council accepted the Feasibility Study and called the public hearing A neighborhood open house was held January 21 2009 DISCUSSION For the 2009 Street Improvement Project staff is proposing to rehabilitate approximately 3 1 miles of streets including Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 139 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Page 2 of9 Proiect Area 1 Urban Residential Chaparral Court Chaparral Lane Redwing Court Redwing Lane S of Kerber Blvd Pima Lane Pontiac Lane Pontiac Court Buckingwood Court Proiect Area 2 Rural Residential Lakota Lane Mandan Circle V ogelsburg Trail Proiect Area 3 Commercial Industrial West 78th Street Hwy 101 to City Limits 77th Street West 18ih Avenue Quattro Drive 1 Jr l rA 7 I i L t I L L t I t I I I O Project Area 2 r The project also includes miscellaneous sidewalk and concrete curb and gutter replacement at various locations throughout the City and the replacement of the TH 5 pedestrian trail from Dell Road to TH 101 140 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Page 3 of9 For the public hearing staff is requesting the Council authorize staff to proceed with the project and complete plans and specifications The purpose of the public hearing is to determine if the project should advance to construction The public hearing is not for finalizing the assessment methodology or the amounts The street segments within the proposed project were identified by the City s Pavement Management software in conjunction with site investigations Proiect Area 1 Urban Residential The proposed improvements generally consist of milling and overlaying the pavement surface removal and replacement of severe pavement distresses and minor drainage improvements Draintile is included in various areas along the street to pick up residential sump pump water discharge and reduce the amount of groundwater in the street subgrade Reducing the amount of groundwater in subsoils increases the pavement strength and reduces the likelihood of pavements heaving because of frost CARVER BEACH RD z eT l 6771 1 I aSl l 9 X lll r X 51 i I j at I l 6 1 I KERBER BLVD I v v r S i1J m C C I 0 1 m O H 0 t l ll I i G R E O C l J U C O oJ C i PO iJ J l I C L I y l S Project Area 1 a Urban Residential Low Density t M c c 1 f5f v 1 f ti tIC A IC H J 1 C J l 0 3 r I 1 t C1I r 1Lr T c e J R o tl t t 1 j c C L p H L Ol J of T T T ll I I w I t l et 0 1171 l 11 I tiC n 11 mU ln F j I t 1 l 4C LN I C i t I toe 1 J llllil itt x 1 V l r i j Project Area 1 b Urban Residential Medium Density The original project proposal included the installation of sidewalks connecting the east west segment of Kerber Boulevard to the north south segment of Kerber Boulevard The entire cost of the sidewalk installation was proposed to be assessed to the medium density properties within the project There was opposition to this proposal at the November lih open house therefore staff sent out a ballot to the residents within the medium density area of the project Over half of the 141 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Page 4 of9 ballots were returned and 89 of those who responded did not support the installation of sidewalks therefore the installation of sidewalks is no longer proposed with this project The estimated cost for improvements within the urban residential project area is 625 190 Consistent with past practice it is proposed that 40 of these costs be assessed to the adjacent benefitting properties Staff proposes to split the project area in two for assessment purposes since the twinhomes and quadhomes are higher density Based on this assessment methodology the estimated assessments are Proiect Area la Low Density Estimated project cost 211 314 23 40 assessed 84 525 69 Number of assessable units 59 Estimated unit assessment 1 432 64 Proiect Area 1 b Medium Density Estimated project cost 413 875 77 40 assessed 165 550 31 Number of assessable units 261 includes 7 units for Meadow Green Park Estimated unit assessment 634 30 Proiect Area 2 Rural Residential L The proposed improvements in this project area include full depth milling and paving of the streets Removal and replacement of the poor street sub grade areas is also proposed Residents at the end of Lakota Lane requested that the area of the cul de sac be increased Currently the pavement area of the cul de sac is only approximately 40 feet in diameter which requires a passenger vehicle to make a three point turn to turn around Staff proposes that the project incorporate the construction of a standard 90 foot diameter cul de sac at this location including the necessary right of way acquisition The estimated cost of these improvements is 145 845 Consistent with past projects staff proposes to assess 40 of the improvements to the 24 benefitting property owners Based on this assessment methodology the estimated assessment in this project area is 2 430 75 per unit 142 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Page 5 of9 Proiect Area 3 Commercial Industrial The proposed improvements generally consist of milling and overlaying the pavement surface removal and replacement of severe pavement distresses and minor drainage improvements I 1jtJ L j 1 ko 0 j 7 600 t j A J oQ I 6 0 1 I 10 co f c oct r l rf 184 00 I I i L t j i J I n7700 1 r 1 L J i 1 q L i i II C WEST 77THSTREEl 1 9 IIJ C J 1il Jo II ij j r rr D r J I I Il J I f I r V r J z II 18930 I r J L I l 18780 J J I f I I Y 1 x f l I I I Ii J I t j 7770 I f J L r I m m Jlt I l HIGHWAY 5 Oraintile is included in various areas along the street to pick up residential sump pump water discharge and reduce the amount of groundwater in the street subgrade Reducing the amount of groundwater in subsoils increases the pavement strength and reduces the likelihood of pavements heaving because of frost Staff is working with the Twin Cities and Western Railroad to replace the railroad crossing on West 78th Street east of Highway 101 The City s estimated share of the crossing replacement is 30 000 and is included in the construction cost estimate for the commercial industrial street project The original proposal presented to City Council in October 2008 included directionally boring a replacement sewer force main within 77th Street Subsequently in November 2008 there was a break in the watermain within 77th Street Given the condition of the exposed watermain staff requested funding to replace the watermain within 77th Street using the directional bore process Once funding was granted staff felt that the utility improvements within 77th Street should be bid separately from the 2009 Street Improvement Project therefore the replacement of the sanitary sewer forcemain within 77th Street is not proposed under this project The estimated cost for the street improvements within this project area is 315 525 Consistent with past projects 40 of the street costs are proposed to be assessed to the 16 benefitting properties The estimated ass essments for this project area were based on the area of the benefitting parcel and are summarized as follows 143 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Page 6 of9 Property Address Assessable Property Area Percentage of Total Assessable Property Area Estimated Assessment 7580 Quattro Drive 3 281 46 7600 Quattro Drive 7640 Quattro Drive 7700 Quattro Drive 18400 77th Street 18780 78th Street 7770 Dell Road 18800 West 78th Street 18930 West 78th Street PID053 0711622330005 No Address PID 053 0711522330026 18930 West 78th Street PID 019 256860031 78 West 78th Street PID 053 0711622330027 78 West 78th Street PID 019 256860030 1 71 acres 2 37 acres 3 91 acres 2 18 acres 6 59 acres 13 32 acres 0 875 acres 18 34 acres 7 45 acres 0 82 acres 0 77 acres 0 96 acres 1 36 acres 80 West 78th Street 2 23 acres 2 6 3 6 5 9 3 3 9 9 20 1 1 3 27 7 11 2 1 2 1 2 1 4 2 1 3 4 1 00 West 78th Street City Property PID 019 250122300 2 01 acres No address City Property PID 019 1 39 acres 251970010 Total 66 285 acres 3 0 2 1 100 4 543 56 7 446 39 4 164 93 12 494 79 25 368 21 1 640 73 34 960 17 14 135 52 1 514 52 1 514 52 1 766 94 2 650 41 4 291 14 3 786 30 2 650 41 126 210 00 144 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Page 7 of9 Miscellaneous improvements The City of Eden Prairie is planning to overlay Dell Road north of Highway 5 A portion of this road lies within the City of Chanhassen specifically the western lane between the northern Chanhassen City Limits to Highway 5 The City of Eden Prairie estimates that Chanhassen s share of the overlay cost is 75 000 The only property with access to this segment of Dell Road is 7770 Dell Road This property is included in the assessment roll for the commercial industrial project and is therefore not proposed to be assessed for the Dell Road improvements The Dell Road mill and overlay is proposed to be paid entirely through City funds and is therefore not included in the proposed assessment roll The project also includes the rehabilitation ofthe trail on the north side of Highway 5 between Highway 101 and Dell Road and miscellaneous sidewalk and curb repairs throughout the City The cost of these improvements is estimated to be 100 000 and will be paid with City funds FUNDING The Engineering staff prepared the feasibility report Staff proposes to prepare the construction plans and documents and perform the construction observation for the project The benefit of completing this work in house represents 85 000 to 100 000 in savings for the project Forty percent 40 of the street rehabilitation cost will be assessed to the benefiting property owners The remainder of the project cost will be paid from the storm sewer enterprise fund and revolving street assessment account Estimated Cost Amount Assessed Amount Budgeted Project Area la Low Density Urban Residential 211 314 23 84 525 69 1 432 64 unit 59 units Project Area la Medium Density Urban Residential 413 875 77 165 550 31 634 30 unit 261 units Project Area 2 Rural Residential 145 845 00 58 338 00 2 430 75 unit 24 units Project Area 3 Commercial Industrial P e l Ro L l d Qve L Trail Improvements and Sidewalk Repair 315 525 00 126 210 00 see table on page 6 75 9 20 OQ L 100 000 00 n a Total 1 261 560 00 434 624 00 1 300 000 00 145 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Page 8 of9 Meadow Green Park a City owned property lies within the medium density residential project area There is a 30 stall parking lot in Meadow Green Park with two accesses to Pontiac Lane Based on the park s frontage to Pontiac Lane and the average frontage of the twinhome lots to the north and east it is proposed that the park be assessed for seven 7 medium density units There are two City owned properties within the Commercial Industrial assessment area The northeast portion of 100 West 78th Street contains a stormwater pond the remainder of the lot is vacant The other property PID 019 251970010 is vacant West 78th Street between Highway 101 and Dell Road has only one sided benefit meaning that there is only benefitting properties on one side of the street To off set the cost of the single sided benefit it is recommended that these two City parcels be included in the commercial industrial assessment roll 146 Paul Oehme January 26 2009 Page 9 of9 A summary of the estimated assessments on City owned properties is as follows Property Description Meadow Green Park 100 West 78th Street PID 019 251970010 Estimated Assessment 7 units x 634 30 unit 4 440 10 3 786 30 2 650 41 Total Estimated Assessments City owned Property 10 876 81 The proposed storm sewer improvements within the project areas are proposed to be paid from the City s Storm Sewer Fund therefore benefitting properties will not be assessed for the storm sewer improvements The estimated storm sewer cost and funding is summarized as follows Storm Sewer Improvements Estimated Cost Amount Budgeted Storm Sewer Fund Project Area 1 Urban Residential Project Area 2 Rural Residential Project Area 3 Commercial Industrial Total 15 422 25 727 8 027 49 176 50 000 SCHEDULE The anticipated project schedule is as follows Approve Plans Specifications Order Ad for Bid Assessment Hearing Project Begins Substantial Completion February 9 2009 April 27 2009 May 2009 August 2009 G ENG PUBLIC 2009 Projects 09 O 1 2009 Street improvements O 1 26 09 public hearing auth plans specs docx 147 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 Fax 952 227 1404 Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Web Site www ci chanhassen mn us Lfa MEMORANDUM TO Paul Oehme Director Public Works City Engineer tJ FROM Joseph Shamla Project Engineer o f DATE January 26 2009 SUBJECT Lots 5 and 6 Block 1 Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition Public Works Park Place Site Planning Case File No 08 25 Approve Vacation of Drainage and Utility Easements PROPOSED MOTION The City Council approves a resolution vacating the drainage and utility easement located on Lots 5 and 6 ofChanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition City Council approval requires a simple majority vote of the City Council present BACKGROUND The City of Chanhassen is requesting the vacation of drainage and utility easements across Lots 5 and 6 of Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition This easement was dedicated on the plat ofChanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition back in 1985 While reviewing the files from 1985 a document was discovered in the file dated 1986 which shows the sanitary sewer in this easement being abandoned in the future See attachment The sanitary sewer which was located in this easement was removed last fall with the construction of the building pad Gopher State One Locates show no evidence of any public or private utilities within this portion of the proposed vacation area therefore the drainage and utility easement is not needed G ENGWacations Public Works PC 08 25 01 26 09 cc memo doc Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 148 tf 4 I li 4 S f v LDT B Easement to be vacated A l i U SOl 1lrt lM11J LOT POlrttOl ot ill lJttNG I j H6 t 42 OS W 1 32 39 I j fMTGlLV UNtO ilr on oroli f 1 Q11 T0f AY 1 rCQMMSOCeflfl l Attachments 1 Application 2 Drawing and legal description of easement vacation 3 Notice of Public Hearing Affidavit of Mailing Location Map 4 Figure 4 Sanitary Sewer Improvements G ENGWacations Public Works PC 08 25 Ol 26 09cc memo doc 149 Planning Case No CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard P O Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 952 227 1100 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION p 0 f5 1 1 7 Owner ame and AdfSS C7 o C trt r I 0 Q v i c J Contact Phone Email Fax NOTE Consultation with City staff is reauired prior to submittal including review of development plans Comprehensive Plan Amendment Temporary Sales Permit 1 Vacation of Right of Way Easements VAG Conditional Use Permit CUP Interim Use Permit UP Variance VAR Non conforming Use Permit Wetland Alteration Permit WAP Planned Unit Development Zoning Appeal Rezoning Zoning Ordinance Amendment Sign Permits Sign Plan Review Notification Sign 200 City to install and remove Site Plan Review SPR X Escrow for Filing Fees Attorney Cost 50 CUP SPRNACNARlWAP Metes Bounds 450 Minor SUB TOTAL FEE O Subdivision An additional fee of 3 00 per address within the public hearing notification area will be invoiced to the applicant prior to the public hearing Sixteen 16 full size folded copies of the plans must be submitted including an 8 X 11 reduced copy for each plan sheet along with a diaital COpy in TIFF Group 4 tif format Escrow will be required for other applications through the development contract Building material samples must be submitted with site plan reviews NOTE When multiple applications are processed the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application 150 WETLANDS PRESENT C hiM hQ5 f elJ L LJu s hot Pqf P otr 1 0 s alld h C4ttl1hQ 5h 1 rct tc JJ 9g fJ4rt C ftt s Dt ool J d q 50 0 1f 66 ItcNS L YES PROJECT NAME LOCATION LEGAL DESCRIPTION AND PID ff Jd 1 if 1 TOTAL ACREAGE NO PRESENT ZONING REQUESTED ZONING PRESENT LAND USE DESIGNATION REQUESTED LAND USE DESIGNATION REASON FOR REQUEST Saf If J C r It l l r A 9 Il1QiI i c1 lQ2f 1e l w l e COf 9fr cf b J f ad fq9fP1I 1 110 l n lJr l1eert J I I FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW Include number of existing employees and new employees This application must be completed in full and be typewritten or clearly printed and must be accompanied by all information and plans required by applicable City Ordinance provisions Before filing this application you should confer with thel Planning Department to determine the specific ordinance and procedural requirements applicable to your application A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within 15 business days of application submittal A written notice of application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within 15 business days of application This is to certify that I am making application for the described action by the City and that I am responsible for complying with all City requirements with regard to this request This application should be processed in my name and I am the party whom the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application I have attached a copy of proof of ownership either copy of Owner s Duplicate Certificate of Title Abstract of Title or purchase agreement or I am the authorized person to make this application and the fee owner has also signed this application I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application I further understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees feasibility studies etc with an estimate prior to any authorization to proceed with the study The documents and information I have submitted are true and correct to the best of my knowledge L Signature of Applicant I t i Date Date Signature of Fee Owner G plan forms Development Review Application DOC Rev 1 08 151 EASEMENT VACATIO N EXHIBIT CITY OF CHANHASSEN PARCEL 10 251930040 AND PARCELID 251930050 f C L C T l1 i J iJ r t T POINT OF BEGINNING A r A i l l 5 00 SOl052 07ftE 10 00 EASEMENT DESCRWTION TO BE VACATED That part of Lot 5 and Lot 6 Block 1 CHANHASSEN LAKES BUSINESS PARK 5TH ADDITION according to the plat thereof on file and of record in the Office of the Recorder Carver County Minnesota being 7 00 feet perpendicular to parallel with and on each side of the following described line Commencing at the intersection of the easterly line of said Lot 6 and the right of way of Park Place thence North 01 degree 52 minutes 07 seconds West along the easterly line of said Lot 6 a distance of 80 34 feet thence North 69 degrees 42 seconds 08 seconds west a distance of 32 39 feet to the point of beginning thence South 88 degrees 07 minutes 53 seconds West a distance of 172 50 feet thence South 35 degrees 40 minutes 54 seconds West a distance of 394 28 feet and there terminating TOGETHER WITH That part of Lot 5 Block 1 CHANHASSEN LAKES BUSINESS PARK 5TH ADDITION according to the plat thereof on file and of record in the Office of the Recorder Carver County Minnesota being 5 00 feet perpendicular to parallel with and on each side of the following described line Commencing at the intersection of the easterly line of said Lot 6 and the right of way of Park Place thence North 01 degree 52 minutes 07 seconds West along the easterly line of said Lot 6 a distance of 80 34 feet thence North 69 degrees 42 seconds 08 seconds west a distance of 32 39 feet thence South 88 degrees 07 minutes 53 seconds West a distance of 172 50 feet thence South 35 degrees 40 minutes 54 seconds West a distance of 394 28 feet to the point of beginning Thence South 01 degree 52 minutes 07 seconds East a distance of 10 00 feet and there terminating POINT OF BEGINNING 7 tN69 42 08 W 32 39 I r ci EASTERLY UNE IX OF LOT 6 w o z POINT OF COMMENCEMEN I I N Scole in feet I I 0 60 120 180 LEGEND EASEMENT AREA TO BE VACATED 111 Engineering Surveying t Landscape Archilecture HANSEN THORP PEWNEN OLSON Inc 7 1O DrM EdIll WoI5fiM4 lI5N 07OO lll5U28078OClfllt 152 CITY OF CHANHASSEN AFFIDAVIT OF MAILING NOTICE STATE OF MINNESOTA ss COUNTY OF CARVER T Karen J Engelhardt being first dilly sworn on oath deposes that she is and was on January 14 2009 the duly qualified and acting Deputy Clerk of the City ofChanhassen Minnesota that on said date she caused to be mailed a copy of the attached notice of Public Hearing for the Vacation ofD U Easement on Lots 5 6 Block 1 Chanhassen Lake Business Park 5th Addition New Public Works Facility 7901 Park Place to the persons named on attached Exhibit A by enclosing a copy of said notice in an envelope addressed to such owner and depositing the envelopes addressed to all such owners in the United States mail with postage fully prepaid thereon that the names and addresses of such owners were those appearing as sucl 1 by the records ofthe County Treasurer Carver County Minnesota and by other appropriate records Subscribed and s Vorn to before lI e this IL rt ay ofZ 2009 C Notary Public r J I JEAN M STECKUNG Notary Publlc Mlnnesota My Commission Explres Jan 31 2009 g eng forms affidavit doc SCANNED 153 0 c CD C CD C C CO t CD c I J t 0 cO J a 0 o c CD CD CJ en o CO Z c c CO c o C C CD C CD c CO t CD c I J t 0 cO J a 0 o c CD CD t en en o CO Z E CO o 0 co oJ D E rn o 00 o oJ rn j 0 o D 0 Q NE rn CD c NO rn U l C C l rn 0 0 rn rn 0 I c O t O D c oJ j c u S D c Qrn l D o c 0 CO oJ D E rn o 00 o r r oJ rn j 0 0 D 0 Q NE rn CD c NO rn U l C C l rn 0 0 rn rn 0 I c O t O D c oJ 0 c U c D C c Qrn l D o c I C 4 0 D j cD D 0 0 S E j c c D g j f m j l s 0 0 c W l t 0 0 U CO i a3 ro t j c 0 oJ j l D o oJeo 000 Q j 0 oJ Q 0 D C1 C D 1 en c 0 c V J LI c LI to oJ D ij3 a5 f D Q 0 0 0 1 0 en 0 tJ l C D rn rnN en O D D Df C Q c ro u p 0 c en o 2 x rn enO s ar o rn Q Drn D oJ oJ o c c0 D oen 4 0 Z 0 c C LI r 0 E 0 C Dc l Oo LIto c o en D C 0 D oJ 0 D c E S LL en tJ D c o c 0 D e rn D rn U C U 0 tOrn U c U en c Q 8 Co e c D c D 0 0 rn rn S CO O l I 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D g C DO o E en 0 e c 0 en Q J 0 rn 5 0 D U D 0 Q f U J 0 0 N C3 rnu 0 19 en 0 S C rn en rn D 0 c D rn E en 8 0 1 l E E O D D uEO 5rn g E c rn S J E D I D en Ei lrnen Orn en DC I n en U ro rn rn rn 0 C D v 0 0 0 D D 0 0 0 D c LI en 0 w c 0 E U en 0 I rn C 3l rn E l 0 00 CD J D D Cl 4 Q U C E D U U rn LI 0 en l en l E c CIl c l Q rn I J CJ f 0 0 0 g D l g r g E D i5 I g N c0 t E Li 8 f 0 Q J n 15 U S b Q 0 z CJ c c C D D rn o c Q c 0 D S coE 06 en2 c c o D E E l 0 at 154 CoW I o2007 c r fl Discla er This map is neither a legally recorded map nor a survey and is not intended to be used as one This map is a compilation of records information and data located in various city county state and federal offices and other sources regarding the area shown and is to be used for reference purposes only The City does not warrant that the Geographic Information System GIS Data used to prepare this map are error free and the City does not represent that the GIS Data can be used for navigational tracking or any other purpose requiring exacting measurement of distance or direction or precision in the depiction of geographic features If errors or discrepancies are found please contact 952 227 1165 The preceding disclaimer is provided pursuant to Minnesota Statutes S466 03 Subd 21 2000 and the user of this map acknowledges that the City shall not be liable for any damages and expressly waives all claims and agrees to defend indemnify and hold harmless the City from any and all claims brought by User its employees or agents or third parties which arise out of the user s access or use of data provided 155 f P 1 l r C f I I I LOT II BLOCK I l I I I CHANHASSEN LAKES l I BUSINESS PARK I I I i I I 1 11 RW I I I I I I I I I lz I I I I I I JANHASSEN LAKES BUSINESS PARK 5TH ADDITION r r I ARBORETUM BOULEVARD T H NO 5 LOT 6 BLOCK 1 C q v OQ 1 LOT 5 t Q q Q BLOC I q y LOT 4 BLOCK 1 r J t S Jlo J f l S t fl J fl fl O Oc r p p C f C c r rs t S e 0 1 i p I p I J t t GO C r C P CHANHASSEN MN SCALE 1 300 ReM NO 851035 CITY PROJ NO JANUARY 1986 LEGEND EXISTING 7 SANlTARY SEWER PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER FIGURE 4 SANITARY SEWER IMPROVEMENTS 156 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 I Fax 952 227 1404 Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Web Site WNW ci chanhassen mn us 4b I z MEMORANDUM TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager FROM Bob Generous Senior Planner o DATE January 26 2009 SUBJ CHANHASSEN PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY Planning Case 08 25 PROPOSED MOTION A The Chanhassen City Council approves a Site Plan for an 82 500 square foot one story office warehouse building with a mezzanine storage area and setback Variances from the creek and wetland for the parking lot area plans prepared by Oertel Architects and the City of Chanhassen dated 12 05 08 subject to conditions 1 24 of the staff report B The Chanhassen City Council approves a Conditional Use Permit for outdoor storage subject to condition 1 of the staff report And Adoption of the attached Planning Commission Findings of Fact City Council approval requires a majority vote of City Council present EXECUTIVE SUMMARY The City s Public Works Department is requesting site plan approval for an 82 500 square foot public works building with a conditional use permit for outdoor storage areas The variance requests are to permit the parking lot to be closer to the wetland and the creek than is permitted by ordinance In developing the plan for the site the City did investigate several site plan configurations for the project The site plan configuration being reviewed includes the minimum variance request while providing for the needs of the public works operation While the ordinance specified 70 trees for the parking lot the City is preserving the large wooded area to the west of the building In the past staff has allowed the clustering of required plantings on site to meet ordinance requirements Therefore staff has determined that the approximately 5 acres of preserved woodlands west of the building satisfies the City requirements for landscaping Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 157 Todd Gerhardt January 26 2009 Page 2 of 2 PLANNING COMMISSION SUMMARY The Planning Commission held a public hearing on January 6 2009 to review the proposed project The Planning Commission voted 4 for and 0 against a motion recommending approval of the public works facility site plan with variances and the conditional use permit to allow the outdoor storage After hearing the justification for the variance request the Planning Commission did not have any issues or concerns regarding approval of the project RECOMMENDA TION Staff recommends adoption of the motion as specified on pages 13 14 in the staff report dated January 6 2009 approving the Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 ATTACHMENT 1 Planning Commission Staff Report Dated January 6 2009 g plan 2008 planning cases 08 25 public works facility site plan executive summary doc 158 PC DATE January 6 2009 OJ CITY OF CHANHASSEN CC DATE January 26 2009 REVIEW DEADLINE February 3 2009 CASE 08 25 BY AF RG TJ ML JM JS PROPOSED MOTION The Chanhassen Plafl Hng Commissiofl reeoffimoo ds that City Council approves the Site Plan for Planning Case 08 25 for an 82 500 square foot one story office warehouse building with a mezzanine storage area with a Conditional Use Permit for outdoor storage and setback Variances from the creek and wetland for the parking lot area plans prepared by Oertel Architects and the City ofChanhassen dated 12 05 08 subject to the conditions of the staff report And adopts the attached Planning Commission fmdings SUMMARY OF REQUEST The City ofChanhassen Public Works Department is requesting a Site Plan Review with Variances for an 82 500 square foot public works building with a Conditional Use Permit for the outdoor storage areas CHANHASSEN PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY LOCATION Lots 5 6 Block 1 Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition 7901 Park Place APPLICANT City of Chanhassen 7700 Market Boulevard P O Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 952 227 1100 PRESENT ZONING Industrial Office Park lOP 2020 LAND USE PLAN Office Industrial ACREAGE 11 95 acres DENSITY 0 16 F A R LEVEL OF CITY DISCRETION IN DECISION MAKING The City s discretion in approving or denying a site plan is limited to whether or not the proposed project complies with Zoning Ordinance requirements If it meets these standards the City must then approve the site plan This is a quasi judicial decision The City s discretion in approving or denying a variance is limited to whether or not the proposed project meets the standards in the Zoning Ordinance for a variance The City has a relatively high level of discretion with a variance because the applicant is seeking a deviation from established standards This is a quasi judicial decision The City has limited discretion in approving or denying conditional use permits based on whether or not the proposal meets the conditional use permit standards outlined in the Zoning Ordinance If the City finds that all the applicable conditional use permit standards are met the permit must be approved This is a quasi judicial decision 159 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 2 of 15 The public hearing notice has been mailed to property owners within 500 feet of the proposed development PROPOSAL SUMMARY The City s Public Works Department is requesting site plan approval for an 82 500 square foot public works building with a conditional use permit for outdoor storage areas The variance requests are to permit the parking lot to be closer to the wetland and the creek than is permitted by ordinance The proposed development will occur on two lots of record Lots 5 and 6 Block 1 Chanhassen Lake Business Park 5th Addition All this area is zoned lOP The property to the north of the site contains Paisley Park The property immediately to the east is a City owned outlot containing woodlands and Riley Creek The property to the south is vacant and contains portions of a large wetland complex which crosses over onto this site The property to the west across Audubon Road contains Pillsbury a vacant industrial property and a day care facility Water and sewer service is available to the site in Park Place Access to the site will be provided via Park Place The high point of the property is on the west side with an elevation of974 The low point is in the south central portion of the property in the wetland with an elevation of approximately 920 While there is over a 50 foot elevation change on the property there are no bluffs on the property since the slope does not exceed 25 percent a bluff must have both an elevation change of25 feet or more and a slope of30 percent or greater The western half of the property is heavily wooded A wetland exists in the south central portion of the property and extends onto the property to the south A wooded corridor along Riley Creek is located to the east of the properties Staff is recommending approval of the Site Plan Review to permit an 82 500 square foot public works building with variances from the wetland setback and creek setback and a conditional use permit for the outdoor storage As part of the process the City will create a zoning lot of the two lots creating in effect one building site Additionally the City must vacate some drainage and utility easements and a portion of the right of way 160 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 3 of 15 APPLICABLE REGUATIONS Chapter 20 Article II Division 3 Variances Chapter 20 Article II Division 6 Site Plan Review Chapter 20 Article IV Conditional Uses Chapter 20 Article VI Wetland Protection Chapter 20 Article VII Shoreland Management District Chapter 20 Article XXII lOP Industrial Office Park District Chapter 20 Article XXIII Division 7 Standards for Commercial Industrial and Office Institutional Developments BACKGROUND On September 8 2008 the City Council approved an Interim Use Permit to permit up to 15 000 cubic yards of fill on the site On March 17 1986 the Chanhassen City Council approved the plans and specifications for Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition which constructed Park Place On August 19 1985 the Chanhassen City Council approved the Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition Subdivision 85 9 creating seven lots in two blocks one outlot and right of way for Park Place Such subdivision re platted Lots 2 through 10 Block 1 Chanhassen Lakes Business Park f On July 2 1979 the Chanhassen City Council approved the development contract for Chanhassen Lakes Business Park On June 4 1979 the Chanhassen City Council approved the final plat for Chanhassen Lakes Business Park On April 17 1978 the Chanhassen City Council approved the rezoning of the property from R 1 A Agricultural Residence District to P 4 Planned Industrial District and preliminary plat approval of the proposed plat PUD 75 1 Additionally the City approved Resolution 78 18 authorizing the proposed North Lake Susan Sanitary Sewer Water Street and Storm Sewer Improvement Project 78 3 and Resolution 78 19 establishing the centerline for the right of way for the extension of Powers Boulevard from Highway 5 to Lyman Boulevard In 1976 the City approved a Comprehensive Plan Amendment changing 150 acres in this area from Low Density Residential to Industrial 161 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 4 of 15 GENERAL SITE PLAN ARCHITECTURE The applicant is requesting site plan approval for an 82 500 square foot one story office warehouse building with a mezzanine storage area with outdoor storage areas to the rear of the building and setback variances for the parking lot area from Riley Creek to the east and the wetland to the south I 0 C I II I I 1 ai I I I ARCHITECTURAL COMPLIANCE Size Portion Placement The main entrance to the building is located in the southeast comer of the building The building entrance consists of full story store front glass windows and doors A metal canopy is proposed over the entrance Material Color and Detail Materials consist of ribbed insulated precast tip up concrete panels with exposed aggregate incorporating random smooth banding and brick The office area and all portions of the building that project from the plane ofthe building are completely in brick The concrete would be light gray with a buff colored stone exposed aggregate The brick we are proposing is a modular sized brick in a dark brown earth tone with a color matched mortar The majority of the pre finished metal overhead doors coping fascia etc will be a charcoal gray color with dark bronze accents at elements such as signage and window trims Clerestory windows are provided around the building with the use of large window areas over the office area and the vehicle maintenance bays These upper level windows will permit natural lighting Full length store front type windows are included in the office area of the building in addition to the more traditional aluminum framed windows in the offices and multi purpose room The proposed glass is a low e I inch insulated glass with a medium bronze tint The 162 Height and Roof Design Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 5 of 15 window frames will be anodized aluminum Soldier courses of brick are proposed above the windows and at the top of the brick walls The building height varies depending on the area of the building Building roofs are proposed to be flat Parapet heights go to 26 feet in the vehicle maintenance and welding bays 24 feet in the vehicle storage and shop areas 20 feet in the wash bays and 14 and 19 8 in the office areas The varying roof heights provide architectural interest to the building Mechanical equipment if visible to the public will be screened with prefinished metal screening Facade Transparency Over 50 percent of the first floor elevation in the office area that is viewed by the public includes transparent windows and or doors All other areas shall include landscaping material and architectural detailing and articulation For buildings with a use or function that does not readily allow windows e g cooler or freezer areas mechanical rooms security areas storage areas or warehouse or manufacturing space in commercial or industrial buildings the fenestration standards may be reduced However the architecture detailing must be provided by the use of upper level windows the use of spandrel glass or architectural detailing which provides arches patterning recesses and shadowing that provide aesthetic interest Site Furnishing Community features may include landscaping lighting benches tables etc The development has a proposed patio area on the east side of the building Additionally a significant landscape area is being preserved at the southeast comer of the building 163 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 6 of 15 Loading Areas Refuse Area etc Screening of service yards refuse and waste removal other unsightly areas and truck parking loading areas is provided by locating such areas on the north side of the building Since this site is at the end of a cul de sac the public will not generally be able to view these areas without entering the site Lot Frontage and Parking Location Parking areas are located to the east and south side of the building Due to the site s location at the end of a cul de sac only a few parking stalls are provided between the right of way and the building LIGHTING SIGNAGE Area lighting is provided in the parking lot islands east of the building as well as at the refueling station Lighting height is 30 feet with shoebox type fixtures and high pressure sodium light bulbs Additionally wall mounted light fixtures are proposed on the building with architectural sconce lighting and arm mounted box lighting The plans show a wall sign on the east side of the building just north of the entrance with a maple leaf and 12 inch high aluminum letters Signage shall require a separate sign permit review to determine compliance with City ordinance COMPLIANCE TABLE lOP Public Works Building Height 4 stories 50 feet 1 story 26 feet Building Setback N 10 E 50 W 25 S 40 N 70 E 145 W 370 S 140 Parking Stalls 59 stalls 60 stalls Municipal building 1 500 with 8 475 sq ft of office equals 17 stalls Warehouse 1 1 000 for first 10 000 then 1 2 000 thereafter with 74 025 sq ft of warehouse equals 42 stalls 164 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 7 of 15 Parking Setback lOP N 10 E 50 W 25 S 40 Public Works N 5 E 25 W 370 S 0 Hard Surface Coverage 70 57 Variances from the setbacks to Riley Creek and the wetland for the parking lot area are included as part of the development review application ACCESS Access to the site is provided via Park Place LANDSCAPING Minimum requirements for landscaping include 17 696 square feet oflandscaped area around the parking lot two landscape islands or peninsulas 70 trees for the parking lot and bufferyard plantings along the property lines The applicant s proposed as compared to the requirements for landscape area and parking lot trees is shown in the following table Required Proposed Vehicular use landscape area 17 696 sq ft 17 696 sq ft Trees parking lot 70 trees 22 trees Islands or peninsulas parking lot 2 islands peninsulas 2 islands The minimum requirements for the parking lot trees have not been met The applicant is proposing to preserve a large wooded area to the west of the building and will be installing bufferyard plantings where necessary The proposed islands do not meet ordinance requirements for minimum interior width Staff recommends that the southern island meet the 10 foot minimum and the north island with the proposed trees have a 15 foot interior width Bufferyard requirements Bufferyard B north prop Line 400 Bufferyard B south prop Line 200 Bufferyard B east prop Line 400 165 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 8 of 15 Bufferyard B west prop Line 400 STREETS SITE ACCESS AND SITE CIRCULATION There are no public streets proposed or required for development of this site Park Place provides access to the site No right of way acquisition is required for the public street The existing terminus of Park Place is a 100 foot diameter cul de sac within a l20 foot diameter right of way The entire paved cul de sac will be removed and some paving will be necessary in the right of way The southern access is 36 feet wide and will provide access to the cold storage area of the building The northern access is shown as approximately 47 feet wide The northern access must be revised so that the maximum width does not exceed 36 feet A portion ofthe parking area lies within the existing l20 foot diameter cul de sac right of way The proposed public use ofthe property does not necessarily warrant vacating the cul de sac right of way however should the property be sold in the future the parking lot improvements may need to be removed and a standard public cul de sac installed An encroachment agreement is required for the portion of the parking area that lies within the public right of way GRADINGIDRAINAGE The site was mass graded under an Interim Use Permit approved by City Council on September 2 2008 Final grading will occur with the construction of the building and parking lot Runoff from the majority of the site will be conveyed to the off site stormwater treatment pond southeast of the site via storm sewer Roof drains along the west side of the building will outlet to a drainage swale on the west side of the building which discharges to the wetland south of the building Runoff from the access to the cold storage area is proposed to outlet to the wetland If feasible this runoff should be conveyed to the existing storm sewer so that it can be treated by the existing stormwater basin Revised drainage calculations and storm sewer sizing must be submitted to ensure that the existing downstream infrastructure can accommodate the proposed runoff Three retaining walls are proposed on the site A 280 foot long wall is proposed along the north side of the paved area with a maximum height of 14 feet This wall will be constructed within the existing drainage and utility easement and will therefore require an encroachment agreement 166 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 9 of 15 The second wall is a 100 foot long wall around a 45 inch oak tree on the south side of the building with a maximum height of four feet A lIS foot long wall is proposed on the south side of the access to the cold storage area the maximum height of this wall is four feet The proposed top and bottom of wall elevations must be shown Walls taller than four feet must be designed by an engineer registered in the State of Minnesota and require a building permit According to the recorded plat there were no drainage and utility easements platted along the common lot line The site plan must show the dimensions of the lots UTILITIES Metropolitan Council Environmental Services has a 30 inch diameter sanitary sewer interceptor that runs along the east side of the site The City of Chanhassen has a 21 inch diameter trunk sanitary sewer along the east side of the site as well A 10 inch sanitary sewer extends west from the City s trunk line then to the southwest within a 20 foot wide drainage and utility easement A portion ofthis pipe has been abandoned therefore a portion ofthe drainage and utility easement must be vacated A lO inch watermain was installed on the east and north side ofthe site with the Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition improvements A portion of this watermain has been abandoned The existing drainage and utility easements and abandoned utilities must be labeled on the plan sheet Storm sewer will be installed to serve the proposed development This storm sewer will connect to the existing public utility The utility plan must include a note regarding the connection to the existing storm sewer EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL A NPDES Phase II Construction Site Storm Water Permit has been obtained from the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency MPCA for this site The Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan SWPPP has been prepared and supplied to the Carver Soil and Water Conservation District for their review and comment The SWPPP needs to include the total area disturbed the total change in impervious surface as well as all pertinent contact information The SWPPP should be amended to include sequencing of events during the construction of the site All wetlands need to be clearly labeled in the erosion control plan As indicated on the plan erosion control blanket shall be installed on all slopes greater than or equal to 3 1 At a minimum this includes those slopes immediately east of the existing wetland basins This appears to have been addressed in the erosion control plan All exposed soil areas shall have temporary erosion protection or permanent cover year round The NPDES permit has 167 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 10 of 15 been revised such that all slopes must be protected within 14 days regardless of the grade unless special provisions are applied These areas include but are not limited to constructed storm water management features side slopes and any exposed soil areas with a positive slope to a storm water conveyance system such as a curb and gutter system storm sewer inlet temporary or permanent drainage ditch or other natural or manmade systems that discharge to a surface water Inlet protection may be needed prior to installation of the castings for the curbside catch basins In that case all storm sewer inlets should be protected by at least fabric draped over the manhole with a steel plate holding the fabric in place WETLANDS One jurisdictional wetland exists on site The wetland was delineated by Terry Jeffery in August of 2008 At this time an historic review of aerial photography USGS topographic maps and civil engineering plans was performed It was determined based upon this review that the wetland increased in size as a result of grading changes to the topography of the area and new directed inputs from land development The wetland is classified as Manage 2 in the Chanhassen Surface Water Management Plan This management classification requires a 20 foot wetland buffer and a 30 foot setback from this buffer It appears that in part due to the desire to preserve a significant oak tree on the site the buffer will be as narrow as 16 5 feet for a length of95 feet Additional buffer should be set aside so that the buffer is the same by unit area A 20 foot buffer on the property would amount to 9 777 square feet The proposed buffer encroachment amounts to 321 square feet The buffer should be expanded to mitigate for at least this 321 square feet of area Further the drive aisle is located entirely within the 30 foot setback from the buffer s edge A 30 foot variance will be needed for the construction ofthis drive aisle In the event that a variance is granted any design should seek to mitigate for the lost functions and values from the encroachment into the setback zone A portion ofthe stormwater is to be directed to the pond located east of Park Place This is identified as a Manage 2 wetland in the Surface Water Management Plan However the historic review clearly shows that this area was excavated for the express purpose of addressing stormwater management for the development of the business park and is not a jurisdictional wetland under the Wetland Conservation Act of Minnesota This pond is tributary to Riley Creek and Lake Susan Therefore all reasonable efforts should be taken to assure that the input of new stormwater does not result in downstream degradation of water quality 168 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 11 of 15 PUBLIC WATERS AND BLUFFS There are no bluff zones located on or immediately adjacent to the property There is one DNR stream that flows along the eastern property boundary This stream is Riley Creek This reach of Riley Creek is not listed as impaired Riley Creek from Lake Susan to the Minnesota River is impaired as is the Minnesota River No additional stormwater or surface drainage should be directed to the creek and the watershed should be modified as little as practicable to achieve the development goals The channel and the immediate top of bank have been degraded due to past land use in the area Much of the degradation can be seen in the form of debris within and adjacent to this channel This debris needs to be cleaned up as part of the site development Further several reaches of Riley Creek have been denuded of vegetation or is dominated by invasive species such as buckthorn and garlic mustard Vegetation management should occur adjacent to the channel to assure that an adequate and beneficial buffer is maintained along the channel Work with the Environmental Resources Specialist and the Water Resources Coordinator to design and manage this work SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN SWMP CONNECTION CHARGES No SWMP fees are required for this project OTHER AGENCIES The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies e g Minnesota Pollution Control Agency Minnesota Department of Natural Resources for dewatering and comply with their conditions of approval MISCELLANEOUS The buildings are required to have automatic fire extinguishing systems Building plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the State of Minnesota Retaining walls over four feet high must be designed by a professional engineer and a permit must be obtained prior to construction Detailed occupancy related requirements will be addressed when complete building plans are submitted The owner and or their representative shall meet with the Inspections Division as soon as possible to discuss plan review and permit procedures VARIANCE Chanhassen code requires that structures be set back from the top of bank of streams a minimum of fifty 50 feet Based upon the plans provided the back of curb for the parking area is less than 50 feet from the channel in at least two places The more northerly encroachment would require a 25 foot variance and the more southerly encroachment would require a IS foot variance The applicant is requesting a 3 5 foot encroachment into the minimum wetland buffer requirement The applicant is requesting a 30 foot variance for the wetland setback 169 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 12 of 15 The meandering nature of the creek to the east of the property does not permit a uniform parking lot drive aisle design The wetland on the south restricts the location of buildings and access drives on the site The tree covered slope on the west also constrains the development of the property In order to avoid setback variances the building would have to be shifted to the west requiring extensive grading in the tree covered slope The channel and the immediate top of bank have been degraded due to past land use in the area Much of the degradation can be seen in the form of debris within and adjacent to this channel This debris needs to be cleaned up as part of the site development Several reaches of Riley Creek have been denuded of vegetation or is dominated by invasive species such as buckthorn and garlic mustard Vegetation management should occur adjacent to the channel to assure that an adequate and beneficial buffer is maintained along the channel Work with the Environmental Resources Specialist and the Water Resources Coordinator to design and manage this work Staffhas reviewed the files to determine if there have been any other variances in the area Out of the 500 foot search area there was one setback variance 88 14 Case Address Request Action 10 foot side yard setback 88 14 1430 Park Court variance for the parking Approved lot 0 setback CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT Screened outdoor storage requires a conditional use permit Outdoor storage areas are an integral component of the public works operation The City must be able to store materials and supplies to fulfill its obligations to the public Sec 20 308 Screened outdoor storage The following applies to screened outdoor storage 1 All outdoor storage must be completely screened with one hundred percent opaque fence or landscaped screen The areas to the north west and east of the storage area are heavily wooded The building located to the south will screen the storage area from the public right of way The proposed development must comply with the approved site plan 170 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 13 of 15 RECOMMENDATION Staff and the Planning Commission recommends that the PlaBfling Commission City Council adopt the following motions and adoption of the attached findings of fact and recotnmefldation A The Chanhassen Plaaning Commission recomHl lnds that City Council approves a site plan for an 82 500 square foot one story office warehouse building with a mezzanine storage area and setback variances from the creek and wetland for the parking lot area plans prepared by Oertel Architects and the City of Chanhassen dated 12 05 08 subject to the following conditions 1 The developer shall provide exterior benches and or tables 2 Signage shall require a separate sign permit review to determine compliance with City ordinance 3 The applicant shall mitigate for the lost functions and values of any buffer variance by replacing an equivalent area of buffer in a location which will provide the maximum water quality benefit Preliminary review indicates that area to be northeast of the wetland 4 The applicant shall restore the stream channel as well as the top of bank and flood plain for Riley Creek including the removal of any construction and other debris in the area 5 The applicant shall prepare a vegetation management plan for Riley Creek This management plan shall be created in conjunction with the landscaping plan and the Environmental Resources Specialist and Water Resources Coordinator should be consulted in the creation of this plan 6 The applicant will modify the existing NPDES permit to identify the construction manager for the project 7 The applicant will provide adequate treatment for drainage directed to the wetland 8 The applicant should look for ways to promote infiltration and incorporate alternative stormwater management best management practices into the site design and build One such measure is the construction of a bio infiltration feature at the outlet from the drive aisle northeast of the wetland Other features to investigate include pervious pavement systems cisterns biofiltration trenches preservation or re establislnnent of vegetation etc 9 The final 200 feet of the swale located west of the proposed facility needs to be protected with Category 2 Wood Fiber 1 S Erosion Control Blanket 10 Those areas to be planted in BWSR seed mix U7 should be seeded at a rate of 15LBS PLS acre where PLS means Pure Live Seed 11 The buildings are required to have automatic fire extinguishing systems 171 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 14 of 15 12 Building plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the State of Minnesota 13 Retaining walls over four feet high must be designed by a professional engineer and a permit must be obtained prior to construction 14 The 51 inch and 45 inch oaks located near the northwest and southeast comers of the building shall be protected by fencing throughout construction 15 The site plan must show the dimensions of the lots 16 The northern access must be revised so that the maximum width does not exceed 36 feet 17 An encroachment agreement is required for the portion of the parking area that lies within the public right of way 18 If feasible the runoff from the cold storage area access should be conveyed to the existing storm sewer 19 Revised drainage calculations and storm sewer sizing must be submitted to ensure that the existing downstream infrastructure can accommodate the proposed runoff 20 An encroachment agreement is required to construct the northern retaining wall within the drainage and utility easement 21 The proposed top and bottom of wall elevations must be shown 22 The drainage and utility easement over the abandoned portion of the sanitary sewer must be vacated 23 The existing drainage and utility easements and abandoned utilities must be labeled on the plan sheet 24 The utility plan must include a note regarding the connection to the existing storm sewer B The Chanhassen Planning Commission reeommends that City Council approves a conditional use permit for outdoor storage subject to the following condition 1 The proposed development must comply with the approved site plan plans prepared by Oertel Architects and the CityofChanhassen dated 12 05 08 172 Chanhassen Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 January 6 2008 Page 15 of 15 ATTACHMENTS 1 Findings of Fact and Recommendation 2 Reduced Copy Site Plan 3 Reduced Copy Grading Plan 4 Reduced Copy Landscape Plan 5 Reduced Copy Floor Plans 6 Reduced Copy Building Elevations 7 Letter from Chip Hentges Carver Soil Water Conservation District to Robert Generous dated 12 23 08 8 Public Hearing Notice and Mailing List g plan 2008 planning cases 08 25 public works facility site plan staff report pw site plan doc 173 CITY OF CHANHASSEN CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA FINDINGS OF FACT AND RECOMMENDATION INRE Application of the City of Chanhassen for Site Plan Review for a Public Works Facility Planning Case 08 25 for an 82 500 square foot one story office warehouse building with a mezzanine storage area a conditional use permit for outdoor storage and setback variances from the creek and wetland for the parking lot area On January 6 2009 the Chanhassen Planning Commission met at its regularly scheduled meeting to consider the application of the City of Chanhassen for a site plan review for a public works facility for the property located at Lots 5 6 Block 1 Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition 7901 Park Place The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing on the proposed site plan which was preceded by published and mailed notice The Planning Commission heard testimony from all interested persons wishing to speak and now makes the following FINDINGS OF FACT 1 The property is currently zoned Industrial Office Park lOP District 2 The property is guided by the Land Use Plan for Office Industrial uses 3 The legal description of the property is Lots 5 6 Block 1 Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 5th Addition 4 Site Plan Review a The proposed project is consistent with the elements and objectives of the city s development guides including the comprehensive plan official road mapping and other plans that may be adopted b The proposed project is consistent with this division c The proposed project preserves the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the general appearance of the neighboring developed or developing or developing areas 1 174 d The proposed project creates a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the development e The proposed project creates a functional and harmonious design for structures and site features with special attention to the following 1 An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and provision of a desirable environment for occupants visitors and general community 2 The amount and location of open space and landscaping 3 Materials textures colors and details of construction as an expression of the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and neighboring structures and uses and 4 Vehicular and pedestrian circulation including walkways interior drives and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public streets width of interior drives and access points general interior circulation separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement and amount of parking f The proposed project protects adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision for surface water drainage sound and sight buffers preservation of views light and air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations which may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses 5 Variance The Board of Adjustments and Appeals shall not recommend and the City Council shall not grant a variance unless they find the following facts a That the literal enforcement of this chapter would cause an undue hardship Undue hardship means that the property cannot be put to reasonable use because of its size physical surroundings shape or topography Reasonable use includes a use made by a majority of comparable property within 500 feet of it The intent of this provision is not to allow a proliferation of variances but to recognize that there are pre existing standards in this neighborhood Variances that blend with these pre existing standards without departing downward from them meet this criterion The meandering nature of the creek to the east of the property does not permit a uniform parking lot drive aisle The wetland on the south restricts the location of buildings on the site The tree covered slope on the west also constrains the development of the property Based on the revisions to the plans the variance request has been reduced to a minimum b The conditions upon which a petition for a variance is based are not applicable generally to other property within the same zoning classification This condition is unique to this property which abuts Riley Creek In order to avoid setback variances the building 2 175 would have to be shifted to the west requiring extensive grading in the tree covered slope c The purpose of the variation is not based upon a desire to increase the value or income potential of the parcel of land but rather minimize the impacts to the water resources and to avoid additional impacts on the wooded slope Because of the nature of the facility vehicle size outdoor storage etc need large space turning radius of tandem axle vehicles storage of salt pea rock mulch and trailers d The alleged difficulty or hardship is not a self created hardship but is due to the unique site features which include a creek to the east just east of the public street a wetland on the south a tree covered slope to the west and converging side property lines Additionally the City has attempted to save a 45 inch oak tree southeast of the building e The granting of the variance for the construction of a public works building will not be detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which the parcel is located but will facilitate the provision of a required public service In addition the City will be implementing several mitigation measures which should improve the natural environment including Currently from the top of bank for Riley creek west is either denuded of vegetation or dominated by invasive plant species Currently the channel and the area immediately adjacent to the channel has a substantial amount of construction debris o The plan will involve cleaning all debris away from within the channel and between the proposed back of curb and top of bank o This area will be planted with native trees shrubs forbs and grasses a detailed vegetation management plan will be created o Areas of scour which have developed in the channel will be stabilized The buffer will be expanded both northeast and northwest of the wetland so that total buffer will be far greater than what is required under City code Much of the buffer is dominated by reed canary grass an invasive species This will be replaced by a special BWSR seed mix An engineered wetland will be created northeast of the wetland to treat runoff from the driveway prior to entering the wetland A bio filtration swale will be created west of the building to treat roof runoff prior to entering the wetland f The proposed variation will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to adjacent property or substantially increase the congestion of the public streets or increase the danger of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially diminish or impair property values within the neighborhood 3 176 6 Conditional Use Permit a The proposed outdoor storage will not be detrimental to the public health safety comfort convenience or general welfare of the neighborhood or the city b The proposed outdoor storage will be consistent with the objectives of the city s comprehensive plan and this chapter c The proposed outdoor storage will be designed constructed operated and maintained so to be compatible in appearance with the existing or intended character of the general vicinity and will not change the essential character of that area d The proposed outdoor storage will not be hazardous or disturbing to existing or planned neighboring uses e The proposed outdoor storage will be served adequately by essential public facilities and services including streets police and fire protection drainage structures refuse disposal water and sewer systems and schools or will be served adequately by such facilities and services provided by the persons or agencies responsible for the establishment of the proposed use f The proposed outdoor storage will not create excessive requirements for public facilities and services and will not be detrimental to the economic welfare of the community g The proposed outdoor storage will not involve uses activities processes materials equipment and conditions of operation that will be detrimental to any persons property or the general welfare because of excessive production of traffic noise smoke fumes glare odors rodents or trash h The proposed outdoor storage will have vehicular approaches to the property which do not create traffic congestion or interfere with traffic or surrounding public thoroughfares 1 The proposed outdoor storage will not result in the destruction loss or damage of solar access natural scenic or historic features of major significance J The proposed outdoor storage will be aesthetically compatible with the area k The proposed outdoor storage will not depreciate surrounding property values 1 The proposed outdoor storage will meet standards prescribed for certain uses as provided in the City Code 7 The planning report 08 25 dated January 6 2009 prepared by Robert Generous et aI is incorporated herein 4 177 RECOMMENDA TION The Planning Commission recommends that the City Council approve the site plan review for an 82 500 square foot one story office warehouse building with a mezzanine storage area a conditional use permit for outdoor storage and setback variances from the creek and wetland for the parking lot area ADOPTED by the Chanhassen Planning Commission this 6th day of January 2009 CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION BY Its Chairman 5 178 OI I If ill CD fl i 21 i I l s i l I q I q q I 1 0 88 q 8 I I 88q 1 8 i 1 D 1 VI 0 8 8 I 8 1 1 q 8 u 88 I 18 Ii 1 8 0 1 0 i i IIIIIIIIIIII I 1 I gl f i I I E 1 160 1011 I oI11111 i I I IIIII IIII I I 11 1 1 I o 1111 II I IIIII IIII I DATE RE JlSlONS 5IAKA BY CITY OF CHANHASSEN PUBUC WORKS FACIUTY 7901 PARK PLACE 1 oriIylMtWOplcn r IG or SITE PLAN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT 0A1E 12 4DAlL uc 1IO 179 I B S i I I i j I I I I li I 1 I m a a i t i e z a m i E ig 2 2 S i Z a Q 2S a 3 i I iii I i i j i i a i i Za o 8 m ffl J m i i aa i 2 i 2 g m 2 a 6 i J eo e o R l Z o P M 2 e B z i2 i a s2 a g g 2 iP B E z EI e a o m a m 6 i DAlE RE SlONS OY CITY OF CHANHASSEN li I PUBUC WORKS FACIUTY 7901 PARI PLACE I 0 I iiii i I GII 1 I glii illllii ii I IAo 1 i II I II I I II UI III ir h ii CD GRADING AND EROSION CONTROL PLAN a Ihftblorifyl hal lhIIplOII r r 1 thlI f e I oIll iU I1 5HAII A EMGIIERlNO DEPNmIEMT DATE J2 4llUM uc 1IO I2ill 180 i Q II a s i 51 r 1 q 8 it ir 1 ct of 0 co VI o Ii 1 G G h Jl i 1 t ftt li t r 1 1 of m m l l ill i o a rn iB l l i 2 i i i a 0 nnl p l p m 1 m u i iii IIIIIII III II 1 I giEE 1 I i i I mali I 11 160 lo 1 111 I i I I 1 IIII IIII I Ir 11 I II II I IIII IIII I DAlE REVISIONS BY CITY OF CHANHASSEN PUBUC WORKS FACIUTY 7901 PARK PLACE co iiI G l cgl LANDSCAPE PLAN a 181 n mr 8 u 0 r Z Y y i I I I II II II III f i I I I A I i n i c I I l l O 0 0 5 r Z E r tI1 0 I pi h e g VI 0 VI i i lit tr1m 0 VI I t z m Z en w 182 I u l JJ l m m m i i i 20 o z z z i 5 I I 0 P i c c l li 0 m 0 70 0 r 1 ltI1 2 z pI n ClG w 1 c 3 VI Iii 66 VI u tI1 tI1 z C ao VI I Q r CIl m Z u l 183 1 g c tIJ 1946 a IJ O ty S O 219 East Frontage Road Waconia MN 55387 Phone 952 442 5101 Fax 952 442 5497 CO SI VAf O JISf Cf htto Iwww co carver mn uslSWCD SWCD main html Mission Statement To provide leadership in conservation and teach stewardship of the soil water and related resources through a balanced cooperative program that protects restores and improves those resources December 23 2008 Robert Generous Senior Planner City of Chanhassen 7700 Market Boulevard Chanhassen MN 55317 Re Chanhassen Public Works Facility The SWCD has reviewed the above mentioned development plan for erosion and sediment controls Following you will find my comments A National Pollution Discharge Elimination System permit will be required for this development The General Contractor who has overall charge of day to day operations needs to be on the NPDES Permit as the contractor The Owner and or General Contractor have the responsibility for the NPDES permit An individual qualified to complete stormwater inspection must complete reports weekly and after each Yz inch rainfall event A box will need to be placed on site for these specific documents and or kept in the project office The Carver SWCD will be completing inspections of the rules ofthe NPDES permit and city ordnances to see if the owner and or contractor are in compliance with the permit This permit is a self maintained permit Guidelines of the permit can be found at the following web site htto www pca state mn us water stormwater stormwater c html Erosion Control 1 Unless I missed it the SWPPP only discusses stabilization of slopes does not indicate what types of stabilization is needed and timing of placement Sediment Control 1 Inlet protection is needed on all stormwater conveyance systems prior to casting The SWPPP discusses inlet protection but no mention of what detail is needed Inlet protections need to be installed within 24 hours of placement 2 After installation of curb and gutter all positive slopes to the street with exposed soils will need to be stabilized Curb and gutter inlets are surface waters which need protection from exposed soils with a positive slope within 200 linear feet 3 Concrete washout plans are included but needs to have the block layers with there Spec Mixes areas contained also 4 The General Contractor must discuss De watering plans with all Sub Contractors to make sure they are aware of the NPDES requirements 5 During construction the roof water draining area will need to have temporary sediment measures installed bio rolls are noted on page 4 of 9 but does not indicate when it should be applied 6 Flared end section outletting into swale that flows to the wetland needs to be stabilized immediately once pipe is connected AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER 184 Please include me with any correspondences of changes to this original concept plan and also of any pre construction meetings prior to start of construction Sincerely Chip Hentges CPESC Conservation Technician 185 CITY OF CHANHASSEN AFFIDA VIT OF MAILING NOTICE STATE OF MINNESOTA ss COUNTY OF CARVER I Karen J Engelhardt being first duly sworn on oath deposes that she is and was on December 24 2008 the duly qualified and acting Deputy Clerk of the City of Chanhassen Minnesota that on said date she caused to be mailed a copy of the attached notice of Public Hearing for the Public Works Facility Planning Case 2008 25 to the persons named on attached Exhibit A by enclosing a copy of said notice in an envelope addressed to such owner and depositing the envelopes addressed to all such owners in the United States mail with postage fully prepaid thereon that the names and addresses of such owners were those appearing as such l by the records of the County Treasurer Carver County Minnesota and by other appropriate records Karen J Engelhardt Deputy Clerk Subscribed and sworn to before me this day of 2008 Notary Public 186 0 c s CI 2 0 8 w CI E I E 2 0 CO JO o c c o c CI as 0 0 o c ZCI U U as c c as c o 0 c s CI E c 0 0 c U U as CI E I E 2 0 cO JO 0 c o c CI as 0 a o c zCI U U as c c as c o ID 00 0 c t ID 00 Q g 5 m Cti 0 Q c 5 C o a Q ctS 2 CD Q O Cii ro a Q 5 0 5 c c C SQ Q oo Q Q s Q 5 2 Co J 13 c Eg Ecti U 2 ctS cO Q O 2 e 8 t g ai Q E Q Co ern E o w c gs aE EwwuE 6 en 2 ro Q OJ g Q 5 B t g 5 m 5ro li 5 w G g ou m E E oo 5Q 0 0 E c 2Q 5 O 0 Q J g m ctS uE c E 5 j g 2 u 5 ESo 5 S 5g 5o B a gs B ca g 1ii c C 1D E CD 3 Q 0 en 5 g Ci c Q cQ Q u E u m 00 Qm E gc S 5 m o s g as 8 OJ ID C 5 ca Q Q 3 S 0 Q if cE Ea ol UE e G5g 8 g 5 Q K c Q C u j EQ ffi gouo g a 1 5 g gCl i TI II 0 g 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g c O i8 E Q Q mIDO Q g m u EuGw E2 E D m g tI OS m mID E t a 2 Joo c oc2 g D o 5 2 2 i t KEg OO Q rne8 mo Q tI Err g Q 5 o c 5Q ID DcB J cE c Do S E en g E 0 5 ro S f o oaoc oo Q Q g c E z c g E C E E 5 c ooG C DEQ Bcc o t orn c o c Q 2 OO3 Q J Q 5rQ ei E 2 g Q g c Q a tlo o SE E 2 i o E oioo gg J g ccE g EE m tl g 5 crnQ o 8Ec g go c 0 0 CIS 0 0 0 0 UJ c UJ E c s 0 2 5 o t 5 53 00 c s c g 0 J c c g 0 Ca E g tI 8 3 t 2 6 g c E E 0 5 2 ffi 8 g a Q 8 5 rn oc 55 OU w arn w G 187 CORE MPLS INDUST PORTF ETAL C O CORE REALTY HLDGS MGMT INC 1600 DAVE ST 450 NEWPORT BEACH CA 92660 2447 CAMPBELL PROPERTIES LP II C O KNOWLEDGE LEARNING CORP ATTN TAX DEPT PO BOX 6760 PORTLAND OR 97228 6760 ROBERT D CARMEN J CHRISTIANS 6851 CARDINAL COVE DR MOUND MN 55364 9535 LOVE 4 ONE ANOTHER CHARITIES 7801 AUDUBON RD CHANHASSEN MN 55317 8205 DAVID SWARTOUT 10028 INDIGO DR EDEN PRAIRIE MN 55347 1206 PRINCE R NELSON 7801 AUDUBON RD CHANHASSEN MN 55317 8201 K L PARTNERS 7870 PARK DR CHANHASSEN MN 55317 9500 ALFRED A IVERSEN PMT CORPORATION 1500 PARK RD CHANHASSEN MN 55317 8200 PRN MUSIC CORPORATION 7801 AUDUBON RD CHANHASSEN MN 55317 8201 PEERLESS INDUSTRIES INC 1969 WEST COUNTY ROAD C2 ROSEVILLE MN 55113 1246 TWO S PROPERTIES INC DEPT PT MN 08305 PO BOX 25025 GLENDALE CA 91201 5025 MUSTANG LLC 7860 PARK DR CHANHASSEN MN 55317 9294 MCGLYNN BAKERIES INC 366 C O GENERAL MILLS TAX DEPT PO BOX 1113 MINNEAPOLIS MN 55440 1113 188 Correspondence Section Memo from Greg Sticha re Review of Claims Paid dated January 16 2009 189 CITY OF CHANHASSEN 7700 Market Boulevard PO Box 147 Chanhassen MN 55317 Administration Phone 952 227 1100 Fax 952 227 1110 Building Inspections Phone 952 227 1180 Fax 952 227 1190 Engineering Phone 952 227 1160 Fax 952 227 1170 Finance Phone 952 227 1140 Fax 952 227 1110 Park Recreation Phone 952 227 1120 Fax 952 227 1110 Recreation Center 2310 Coulter Boulevard Phone 952 227 1400 Fax 952 227 1404 Planning Natural Resources Phone 952 227 1130 Fax 952 227 1110 Public Works 1591 Park Road Phone 952 227 1300 Fax 952 227 1310 Senior Center Phone 952 227 1125 Fax 952 227 1110 Web Site www ci chanhassen mn us MEMORANDUM TO Mayor City Council FROM Greg Sticha Finance Director b 7 f DATE January 16 2009 bYitfJ SUBJECT Review of Claims Paid The following claims are submitted for review on January 26 2009 Check Numbers Amounts 138987 139121 433 575 10 Total All Claims 433 575 10 Attachments Check Summary Check Detail Report Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 190 CITY OF CHANHASSEN User danielle Accounts Payable Checks by Date Summary by Check Number Printed 01 16 2009 10 17 Summary Check Number 138987 138988 138989 138990 138991 138992 138993 138994 138995 138996 138997 138998 138999 139000 139001 139002 139003 139004 139005 139006 139007 139008 139009 139010 139011 139012 139013 139014 139015 139016 139017 139018 139019 139020 139021 139022 139023 139024 139025 139026 139027 139028 139029 139030 139031 139032 139033 139034 139035 139036 139037 139038 139039 139040 139041 139042 139043 139044 139045 139046 139047 139048 Vendor No Vendor Name ABLHOS ABLE HOSE RUBBER INC AnyY og Anybody Yoga ARAMAR ARAMARK BRAINT BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION BROTIR BROWN S TIRE AUTO campdani Daniel Campion carcou Carver County CARGIL CARGILL INCORPORATED CENENE CENTERPOINT ENERGY MINNEGASCO COREXP CORPORATE EXPRESS CUBFOO CUB FOODS DirTur Dirt and Turf Outdoor Power FootDoug Doug Foote GOOTEC GOODPOINTE TECHNOLOGY INC GOPSTA GOPHER STATE ONE CALL INC HANTHO HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON HA WCHE HAWKINS CHEMICAL HDsup HD Supply Waterworks LID HooThr Hoops Threads IMPPOR IMPERIAL PORTA PALACE INDSCH INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DIST 112 integra Integra Telecom JohnOlen Olena Doug Johnson JOHSUP JOHNSTONE SUPPLY KIMHOR KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES INC LITF AL LITTLE FALLS MACHINE INC L YMLUM LYMAN LUMBER MERACE MERLINS ACE HARDWARE MobMin Mobile Mini Inc MVEC MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP NorPum North Star Pump Service OerArc Oertel Architects OREAUT O REILLY AUTOMOTIVE INC P JPro P J Promotions pubsur Public Surplus LLC RBMSER RBM SERVICES INC REEBUS REED CONSTRUCTION DATA RobBeaIn Robert Bealke Industries SASCON SASS CONSTRUCTION INC SCHMDEANDEAN SCHMIEG SHAGRA SHAKOPEE GRAVEL INC SHOTRU SHOREWOOD TRUE VALUE SULUTI SULLIVAN S UTILITY SERVo INC W A YTEK W A YTEK INC WENCK WENCK ASSOCIATES INC WERELE WERNER ELECTRIC SUPPLY WINGRICH RICHARD WING WSB WSB ASSOCIATES INC XCEL XCEL ENERGY INC AARP AARP AARP AARP AMEM AMEM ASBENE ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS DANKA DANKA OFFICE IMAGING COMPANY GERHTODDTODD GERHARDT GOVFIN GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFF ASSN METC02 METROPOLITAN COUNCIL rninsta Minnesota State University Man MNGFOA MN GFOA MOTORO MOTOROLA MSFDA MINNESOTA STATE FIRE DEPT ASSN NA TARB NATIONAL ARBOR DAY FOUNDATION Check Date 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 01 08 2009 Void Amount 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 0 00 Check Amount 225 72 693 00 245 79 1 990 25 8 00 100 00 228 71 8 995 46 8 607 40 282 43 76 03 14 64 63 34 1 750 00 127 75 1 325 80 20 047 98 8 181 82 225 1 0 448 37 6 702 13 63 75 187 50 48 72 720 00 129 35 34 08 836 79 1 353 81 4 468 18 4 111 68 17 014 00 458 89 31 50 100 08 4 747 37 519 48 175 00 632 23 592 20 1 858 98 279 98 573 75 41 26 6 266 92 178 50 220 00 8 968 50 26 845 00 240 00 240 00 100 00 1 499 00 879 13 425 00 220 00 108 880 32 27 00 240 00 1 475 50 360 00 15 00 Page 1 191 CITY OF CHANHASSEN Accounts Payable Printed 01 16 2009 10 17 User danielle Checks by Date Summary by Check Number Summary Check Number Vendor No Vendor Name Check Date Void Amount Check Amount 139049 preone PreferredOne Insurance Company 01 08 2009 0 00 33 855 57 139050 SENLAN SENSIBLE LAND USE COALITION 01 08 2009 0 00 200 00 139051 StutJohn John Stutzman 01 08 2009 0 00 600 00 139052 SUNSET SUNSET LANDSCAPING 01 08 2009 0 00 662 00 139053 SzalBlak Blake J Szalapski 01 08 2009 0 00 20 00 139054 UNIMIN UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA 01 08 2009 0 00 85 00 139055 WASMAN WASTE MANAGEMENT SA V AGE 01 08 2009 0 00 1 150 64 139056 YearRyan Ryan Yearous 01 08 2009 0 00 140 00 139057 adutra Adult Training and Habilitatio 01 15 2009 0 00 48 00 139058 Augcol Augsburg College 01 15 2009 0 00 125 00 139059 BarEng Barr Engineering Company 01 15 2009 0 00 9 315 00 139060 BENPRO BENIEK PROPERTY SERVICES INC 01 15 2009 0 00 2 422 00 139061 BRAINT BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION 01 15 2009 0 00 195 00 139062 BRAPUM BRAUN PUMP CONTROLS 01 15 2009 0 00 3 430 10 139063 CAMKNU CAMPBELL KNUTSON 01 15 2009 0 00 8 889 77 139064 CAP AGE CAP AGENCY 01 15 2009 0 00 2 100 00 139065 carcou Carver County 01 15 2009 0 00 10 387 30 139066 CENENE CENTERPOINT ENERGY MINNEGASCO 01 15 2009 0 00 8 719 72 139067 Choice Choice Inc 01 15 2009 0 00 158 17 139068 comint COMPUTER INTEGRATION TECHN 01 15 2009 0 00 1 037 50 139069 CRABTR CRABTREE COMPANIES INC 01 15 2009 0 00 10 476 44 139070 DeepRock Deep Rock Water Company 01 15 2009 0 00 6 71 139071 DELTOO DELEGARD TOOL COMPANY 01 15 2009 0 00 16 43 139072 EHLERS EHLERS ASSOCIATES INC 01 15 2009 0 00 832 50 139073 engwat Engel Water Testing Inc 01 15 2009 0 00 350 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