CC 2004 08 09CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 9, 2004
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Furlong, Councilman Ayotte, Councilman
Lundquist, Councilman Peterson and Councilman Labatt
STAFF PRESENT: Todd Gerhardt, Justin Miller, Roger Knutson, Paul Oehme and
Kate Aanenson.
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Debbie Lloyd
Marcia Crist
Mike Crist
Joshua Burrington
Eric Fitts
Mitchell Ford
Jacob Simmer
Steve Thorpe
7305 Laredo Drive
6501 Wesley Court
6501 Wesley Court
6869 Yuma Drive
375 College Avenue, Excelsior
1711 E. Koehnen Circle
5735 Echo Road, Excelsior
8896 Lake Place, Eden Prairie
Mayor Furlong: Thank you and good evening to everyone who is here this evening. We
have some Boy Scouts here from Troop 409 that will be observing us tonight. Welcome.
They are working on their citizenship and community badge and we hope you learn
something. I'd also like to welcome everybody watching at home as well. ! appreciate
you joining us in the comfort of your living room. At this time ! would ask if there are
any changes or modifications to the agenda. We may change the order of No. 2 and push
that back because some of the people participating in that have been delayed. If no
objection to that, the agenda will stand as published.
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mayor Furlong: I would like to extend an invitation to all residents and their families and
friends to join me and other members of the Council and commissions at Chanhassen
Day at the Minnesota Landscape Arboretum. That's on Thursday, August 26, and
admission to the Arboretum will be free throughout the day for all Chanhassen residents.
The first 500 visitors will receive a free watering wand and a copy of the Chanhassen
Centennial History book. At 10 a.m. there will be a short presentation and welcome
message. ! will be there as well as members of our Environmental Commission and Park
& Recreation Commission. It's a great opportunity to come out and see the Arboretum
and some of the events that are taking place. They have a treehouse exhibit this year,
which is really fun for the children. There are lots to see and do out there. ! would
encourage everyone to come out and use this as an opportunity to come out. It's close
and in our backyard and so often we don't get there when it is that close. Hopefully this
will encourage some of us to get there. ! look forward to that and would like to thank the
staff, Mr. Gerhardt and others for arranging that.
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CONSENT AGENDA: Councilman Labatt moved, Councilman Lundquist
seconded to approve the following consent agenda items pursuant to the City
Manager's recommendations:
Approval of Minutes:
-City Council Work Session Minutes dated July 26, 2004
-City Council Verbatim & Summary Minutes dated July 26, 2004
Receive Commission Minutes:
- Planning Commission Summary & Verbatim Minutes dated July 20, 2004
2004 Elections:
- Resolution 2004-50: Appointment of Election Judges for the Primary and
General Elections and Establishing their Rates of Pay.
- Approval of Joint Powe3rs Agreement with Carver County for Absentee Ballot
Services.
c. Approve Joint & Cooperative Agreement with Suburban Rate Authority, PW 416.
d. Approve Invoices Associated with 2003 Lake Vegetation Monitoring.
e. Resolution 2004-51: Approval of Change Order for Well No. 9, Project 03-02.
Resolution 2004-52: Approval of Change Order No. 1, MSA Street
Rehabilitation Project 04-02.
Resolution 2004-53: Resolution Approving Limited Use Permit, Highway 41
Trail Connection Project.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS: None
Mayor Furlong: As mentioned earlier, I would like to defer Item 2 to a later point in our
agenda this evening and move forward with Item 3.
PBULIC HEARING TO CONSIDER VACATION OF DRAINAGE & UTILITY
EASEMENT~ 501 BIG WOODS BOULEVARD~ FILE 04-05:
Matt Saam: Thank you Mr. Mayor and Council members. Staff has received an
easement vacation request from the property owner at 501 Big Woods Drive, Mr. David
Igel. The property owner has a creek which goes across the southeast corner of his
parcel. During the development of the parcel (see map), staff required a 50 ft. drainage
and utility easement to be granted to the city from over the centerline of the easement.
When the plat was filed, the developer had granted a 70 ft. easement. Now the property
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owner, who is also the developer, is looking to put a pool within the easement area and to
encroach into the city's easement. The property owner is asking us to vacate basically
the difference between the 70 ft. easement that he granted and the 50 ft. easement city
staff had required. Staff sees no objection to this since the 50 ft. is what was described in
the development contract to begin with. So we are recommending approval and I'd be
happy to take any questions.
Councilman Lundquist: Matt, why was it done 70 ft. to start with? Just an administrative
over sight?
Matt Saam: Yes, an applicant is here. He said his surveyor made a mistake. Since it
satisfied our requirements, we did not flag it.
Mayor Furlong: This is a public hearing and at this time I would like to open up the
public hearing. Individuals may come forward to the podium and comment on this issue.
If there is no one interested in commenting on this issue, I will go ahead and close the
public hearing and bring it back to Council for discussion. Is there any discussion on the
matter? It seems pretty straightforward. Is there a motion to approve the request?
Resolution 2004-54: Councilman Peterson moved, seconded by Councilman Labatt
to approve the Resolution vacating a portion of existing public drainage utility
easement for 501 Big Woods Drive, David Igel as described in the staff report. All
voted in favor and the motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING, CONSIDER VACATION OF DRAINAGE & UTILITY
EASEMENT, 1450/1460 KNOB HILL LANE, FILE 04-04:
Public Present
John Knoblauch
1450 Knob Hill Lane
Matt Saam: Thank you Mr. Mayor and Council members. Staff has again received a
request from the property owner at both 1450 and 1460 Knob Hill Lane. Mr. John
Knoblauch owns both properties. Mr. Knoblauch is asking us to vacate a typical side lot
line easement, which is the north property line of the smallest lot. Mr. Knoblauch
actually lives right now at 1450 Knob Hill Lane. Mr. Knoblauch is looking to put a
retaining wall in the area of the existing property line. He is currently working with city
staff to move that property line, something that can be administratively approved. But
once the property line is moved, we will still have the side lot line easements still in
place, so he is asking us to vacate those with the condition that he will grant additional
easements once the lot line is moved. Again, staff sees no problem with this. We just
have the one condition that we get the new easements when the old ones are vacated.
With that, we are recommending approval and I would be happy to take any questions.
Councilman Lundquist: Matt, we're going to vacate the easement and then in
conjunction we're going to do the property line move as well?
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Matt Saam: Correct. We won't record this vacation until the new easements are granted
and the property line is moved.
Councilman Lundquist: So that way if the property line doesn't get moved, he still can't
put the retaining wall in and all that other...
Matt Saam: He can't put it right on the property line.
Councilman Lundquist: OK.
Mayor Furlong: One of the issues that was addressed in the report, but this property line
movement, and we've talked about this for other issues, it doesn't create any non-
conforming issues with either lot. Is that correct?
Matt Saam: That's a great point. No, we verified that the new lot will still meet the
minimum 15,000 sq. ft. requirement and the minimum depth and width requirements.
it will still conform.
So
Mayor Furlong: Ok. Thank you. Any other questions for staff?. If not, we'll open the
public hearing and invite individuals to come forward and address the council on this
matter. Seeing no one interested in speaking on the matter, we'll go ahead a close the
public hearing and bring it back to council for discussion. Any issues on this one?
Resolution 2004-55: Councilman Peterson moved, seconded by Councilman
Lundquist to approve the Resolution vacating the existing public drainage and
utility easement for 1450/1460 Knob Hill Lane as defined in the staff report subject
to the following condition:
Six-foot wide public drainage and utility easements must be granted along
each side of the revised property line between Lots 4 & 5, Block 1, Knob Hill.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF HOUSING
DEVELOPMENT REFUNDING BONDS~ SERIES 2004~ CITY OF CHANHASSEN
GENERAL OBLIGATION~ CENTENNIAL HILLS PROJECT:
Public Present:
Julie Frick
Kathy Aho
Carver County Housing & Redevelopment Authority
Springsted, Inc.
Mayor Furlong: This is item No. 2 in our packets. At this point, we have Julie Frick with
the Carver County Housing & Redevelopment Authority and Kathy Aho with Springsted
and ! would invite them to come forward.
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Todd Gerhardt: Mayor and Council members, Kathy Aho from Springsted has a
PowerPoint presentation that she would like to present on the refunding.
Kathy Aho: Thank you. I just wanted to go over a little background information
regarding the request from the Carver County HRA. In 1995, the City and County HRA
joined together to finance the Centennial Hills project and at this time we would request
that the City of Chanhassen provide credit enhancement by using its general obligation
pledge for up to $5 million in bonds. The bonds would be used to refund the bonds that
were previously issued to construct the 65 units of housing that comprises the Centennial
Hills project. The project is currently owned and managed by the Carver County HRA
and the financing would not change that arrangement. The original transactions included
two bond issues, one a general obligation bond of $4,130,000 and the other was a revenue
bond issue of $705,000. The County HRA at the time pledged to contribute $31,000
annually to support the project. They also built and continued to manage the project and
the financing that is outstanding. At the time that the project was constructed, the City
and the City HRA contributed $372,310 that was deposited into a debt service reserve
fund. They also pledged to contribute $32,000 annually in support of the project and
pledged to contribute its portion of the project payment in lieu of taxes; that in addition to
securing the $4,130,000 of general obligation bonds. What's being proposed with this
refinancing, because interest rates have dropped, is to refinance the debt to accomplish
debt service savings. The city has been looking for a way to reduce its involvement in
the project and interest at this time will enable us to do that. What the financing would
do would be release the city's $327,000 back to them, and also release the city from the
$32,000 pledge and the pledge of the pilot payment. There would be an increase in the
outstanding general obligation pledge because the bonds have been paid down to
$3,595,000. The refinancing would require about $4,625,000 and ! say "about" that
much. That number will not be known until competitive bids on the bonds are actually
taken. The financing itself would include a funded debt service reserve of approximately
$176,000 and it would also feature a continued pledge of the County HRA to make an
annual payment in the amount of approximately $31,000. This chart summarizes the
obligation. On the top it summarizes the overall obligation that the city had at the time of
the first financing, which is basically the general obligation bond plus the amount that is
posted for the debt service reserve fund for a total of just over $4.5 million. Down on the
bottom of this chart you can see the estimated amount of refunding bonds. A portion of
that bond issue would be used for debt service reserve funds to actually cushion the
obligation of this city should that ever come up, for a total net exposure of $4,449,000.
There are some statutory requirements for this type of financing. The revenues have to
provide debt service coverage of at least 110%. The proceeds have to be used for
qualified housing development projects, which means that it is either for seniors or for
tenants with incomes of 80% of median or less. No operating changes are anticipated, so
the project meets the qualifying housing development project definition and it will
continue to qualify after the refinancing. Both the City and County HRA are required to
have a hearing in order to use general obligation bonds in this fashion. The Carver
County HRA's hearing is set for a little later this week. The city must also be within an
overall debt limit for this type of housing bond that is equal to a half percent of its taxable
market value. The next chart gives you an idea of just where you are against that overall
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limit. The city's taxable market value at this time is just over $2.2 billion. The gross GO
housing limit, that is a half percent of that, or just over $11 million. If this issue is
$4,625,000, that leaves the city with just under $6.4 million that would be available for
other projects of this type if it would choose to go ahead with those. This type of debt
doesn't count against the city's general debt limit, so it shouldn't interfere with other city
projects that need to be undertaken and it is expected that it will continue to be self-
supporting from the project revenues themselves. The benefit that we are hoping to
achieve is to consolidate borrowing under one issue which will result in lower costs of
issuance and lower administrative costs. Also, the general obligation feature will result
in lower annual debt service because of the lower interest rates that can be achieved.
That will reduce any need for capitalized interest and we don't expect any in this
particular project. It also reduces the debt service reserve requirement. There will be a
release of the cash deposit back to the city and again a release of the ongoing pledges that
the city has made. The last slide is an estimate of the financing component. As you can
see, we expect the bond issue to be roughly $4,625,000. There is the debt service reserve
fund that is currently held by the trustee of $372,000. The trustee is also holding certain
cash that has been put on deposit for debt service payments; roughly $144,000, and then
the underwriter, who eventually purchases the bonds, will need to post accrued interest
from the date of the bonds to the date of closing, which is estimated at about $11,750.
On the uses side, most of the money will go into an escrow account. The income off of
that escrow account will be used to pay the old bond issues--both the general obligation
bond and the revenue bond issues and we will be able to set the issue up to be called on
its first call date, which is February 1, 2006. At that time both of the old issues will be
paid off in full. There will be a return of cash to the city, the establishment of a debt
service reserve fund, and the costs of the transaction will be paid and the accrued interest
plus any miscellaneous amounts remaining would be deposited into your debt service
fund for the new transaction. That's a brief overview of what is proposed at this time.
Julie Frick, the Executive Director of the County HRA is here also and we'd be happy to
answer any questions that you might have.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions? I guess for a point of clarification, as part of the
city being asked to provide its general obligation for $5 million; when this was originally
done, did the city originally when this was done have general obligation of $4.8 million,
so approximately the same amount? Am ! looking at those numbers correctly? We
provided bonding authority when this was first done. We're just re-providing that at
almost the same level--is that correct?
Kathy Aho: Mr. Mayor and members of the City Council. From a technical perspective,
the general obligation bonds issued initially were $4,130,000. That same half percent
limit that is generating the $11 million of capacity for the city at this time was your
taxable market value at that time and was not large enough to cover the entire project. So
the city provided the general obligation pledge and they also provided the cash to fund
the debt service reserve fund to limit the amount of borrowing.
Mayor Furlong: Ok, thank you. Other questions? Discussion on this? Ok, thank you.
This is a public hearing, so at this time ! will open up the public hearing and invite
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individuals to come forward and address the council on this matter. No wishes to address
the council and ! will close the public hearing and bring it back to council for discussion.
Councilman Peterson: Mr. Mayor, ! think that opportunity doesn't knock this loudly all
that often and ! think we should seize the opportunity and move ahead.
Mayor Furlong: Very well stated.
Resolution 2004-56: Councilman Peterson moved, seconded by Councilman
Lundquist to approve a Resolution Approving the Issuance by the Carver County
Housing and Redevelopment Authority of its Housing Development Refunding
Bonds (City of Chanhassen, Minnesota unlimited Tax General Obligation-
Chanhassen Apartments Project), Series 2004 in an Aggregate Principal amount not
to exceed $5 million and the Pledge of the Full Faith and Credit of the City of
Chanhassen thereto, and Authorizing the Execution and Delivery of Related
Documents. All voted in favor and the motion carried.
LIFE TIME FITNESS, REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE
ARBORETUM BUSINESS PARK PUD TO PERMIT A HEALTH CLUB; SITE
PLAN APPROVAL FOR SAID HEALTH CLUB AND CORPORATE OFFICES
WITH A VARIANCE FOR PARKING; FINAL PLAT APPROVAL; AND
APPROVAL OF DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS
AND SPECIFICATIONS; ARBORETUM BUSINESS PARK 4TM ADDITION;
ALLIANT ENGINEERING & GATEWAY PARTNERS LIMITED,
Public Present:
JeffMelby
Jeff Sandberg
Mark Zaebst
Parham Jabaheri,
Dave DeCon
Tracey Rust
Ben Wikstrom
Life Time Fitness, 6442 City West Parkway, Eden Prairie
Life Time Fitness, 6442 City West Parkway, Eden Prairie
Life Time Fitness, 2325 Hunter Drive, Chanhassen
Alliant Engineering, 233 Park Ave. South #200, Minneapolis
2540 Christian Drive, Chaska, MN 55318
Life Time Fitness, 6442 City West Parkway, Eden Prairie
Life Time Fitness, 6442 City West Parkway, Eden Prairie
Kate Aanenson: Thank you, Mayor and members of the Council. This is a request for
Life Time Fitness and there are several actions involved. First and foremost is a request
to amend the PUD for the Arboretum Business Park. The site is located on Highways 5
& 41. This is the last remaining large piece of approximately 22 acres. When this
project came in as a PUD, staff worked carefully with the underlying developers and
looked at some support commercial and saw this as an opportunity to provide a premier
office or corporate user site. When Life Time approached, it wasn't identified in the
PUD that a health club could be located in a traditional industrial park. At first we said
that we wouldn't support just Life Time Fitness itself and working with the applicants,
they advanced the idea of moving their corporate headquarters, which is what our goal
was. With that, it seemed to make sense to support the PUD concept. So with that, the
first issue under the PUD is to amend that to allow health clubs as a permitted use. Now,
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with that PUD it led to some concern about what if Life Time never builds the corporate
offices. Right now under the PUD there are three separate uses. Our feeling is that based
on the fact that it conforms with that level of parking, if Life Time was to build that and
put some other use in there, that's fine, our goals was to get some office there. But it is
our belief that this is their intention and they will speak to that too. We aren't concerned
if they sublease in the future as our goal is to get the offices built. If they were to do any
changes to that and were to sell off a piece, that would require them to come back before
the Planning Commission and request a subdivision and then you would also have to
approve any subdivision of land to create separate lots they could sell. Otherwise, this is
all under one parcel, which gives them the control over that. So that's the first issue
before you.
The second one would be the site plan itself. There are three things happening on this
lot--Life Time Fitness itself which is a two-story building with a pool which is
approximately 109,000 sq. ft.; and then the two office buildings on Highway 5 which are
both three-stories and 100,000 sq. ft. of office. Parking is shown and meets the needs of
all the users and there is underground parking with both offices, approximately 50 spaces
with each use. With the site plan itself, there were some requests for variances. Most
specifically for parking out front and staff, working hard with the Highway 5 standards,
did not want parking out there and recommended that that be eliminated. They do meet
the parking standards with that. They wanted it as an option. Our position is that if they
need that in the future that they could come back and request that if merit warrants. The
goal is not to hide a building, but to put berming and landscaping in that would screen the
parking lot lights and cars, but not screen the building. They are both three-story
buildings so we believe there is adequate visibility on both those buildings. The other
variance that they were looking at was for some up-lighting and the Planning
Commission felt, as does staff, that you're on a corner with the Arboretum with two
intersections. We don't have much lighting on the other corner with the church and with
the residential across the street. It seemed excessive at 40 ft. high to light up the
buildings. There can be backlit signs at that height that should adequately address that.
Also, the parking lot lighting can only be 20 ft. high. So felt that there was adequate
lighting. There is a large parking lot already giving quite a glow to that area and so we
felt that was a little excessive. The site plan has been modified since it went to the
Planning Commission. This plan doesn't reflect it too much, but the plans that you have
in black and white is easier to see on TV, but ! quickly go through some of those changes.
! think we were up to 51 conditions and now we're down to 15. One of the issues was
circulation of this round-about, which was a traffic point to control access, which we
think worked good. This access going into the building was moved. A sidewalk was
added to give better access which was a concern. Again, a lot of minor stuff. One of the
other issues was on the building itself. Adding more architectural detail on the building
and ! have the material samples here. Again, those were all modified for the backs of the
buildings, additional columns were added especially on those longer span that were
facing Highway 41 that they would have a better presence, specifically the fitness
building itself. So the conditions have been modified since it went to Planning
Commission and again we're working with them in good faith that that's all taking place.
Some of the issues that did come up with the Planning Commission--there was a traffic
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study done by a consultant to review their data independently, coming off there is a light
at Century. There is a light a Century with turn movements and the biggest concern was
peak hours--how is that going to work for circulation. I know the Planning Commission
struggled with if we need something in the future. In talking with the City Engineer, if
there needed to be something done that it could be determined that if it was at a service
level failing that an assessable project could be accomplished to get traffic signals. It
appears based on the study that that shouldn't be the case based on trip generation.
Again, the offices that they are proposing will be used for training for themselves and
their employees and a lot of their employees will be using two-shared parking. We don't
believe that will be a problem. There is a mechanism to solve something down the road
at the developers or benefiting property's expense. I think that addresses most of the
bigger issues that the Planning Commission.
The third component with this would also be that the applicants want a temporary sales
trailer. The Planning Commission didn't spend too much time on this, but we have done
this in the past so they can get out there and get their presence known. Again, that is a
conditional use, which we did support, and there are conditions of approval for that. So
there are three separate motions. With that, we are recommending approval with the
conditions of recommended in the staff report and I'd be happy to take any questions.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions?
Councilman Peterson: As I look at the parking lot, it seems like a lot more islands than
are typical. Am I seeing more islands than normal? Did we do it intentionally or are they
requesting it?
Kate Aanenson: If you look at the landscaping standards, because there is so much
impervious surface, that meets the minimum to encompass that. It is a large parking lot.
Councilman Peterson: That's my point.
Kate Aanenson: I think the other issue when you've got that large of a parking lot on that
corner, you're going to have a lot of wind and that also provides a break for people
walking across. There is a sidewalk which does provide a good visual and protective
barrier for that. We're putting in some nice trails in that area and there is an opportunity
to come out of Life Time and get onto our trails in the nice preserve that we have there. !
think it makes a lot of sense the way it's laid out.
Councilman Peterson: The parking ratio itself from a square footage standpoint to usage.
Are we over-parked or under-parking?
Kate Aanenson: With taking out the front, they are slightly above. Again, some of that
has to do with the fact that Life Time is probably going to take up more of the office
space at night when the peak is, so it works just how we've looked at those other ratios.
In the morning, the office people aren't there yet so you've got that overflow.
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Councilman Peterson: So you really see parking as a non-issue because of that off usage.
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: With one entrance to the site as opposed to two or multiple, is there any
concern about traffic or congestion on in and out.
Kate Aanenson: The consultant is here and he may want to give a brief response to the
overall traffic. The Planning Commission did spend a lot of time reviewing that.
Ed Terhaar: Good evening. We performed the traffic study that you have a copy of and
looked at the proposal or the development as it was proposed with just one access point--
both the weekday morning and afternoon. Assuming full development of the area, the
intersection worked adequately at both the morning and afternoon. We are confident that
it will work in an acceptable manner.
Kate Aanenson: ! would like to point out one thing on the traffic, too. We already know
that taking a left at TH 5 & 41 is already below function level due to the fact that
Highway 41 has not been upgraded. Ultimately with this project we see another
connection onto Highway 41, so that is not working right now. This isn't making it better
or worse, but that system is already inadequate.
Ed Terhaar: There are long-term plans to expand Highway 41. In the short-term there
are issues, but the development does not really make it a whole lot worse.
Mayor Furlong: It's bad, but the development doesn't make it worse.
Ed Terhaar: Right.
Mayor Furlong: When Highway 41 is upgraded, ! don't think there is any schedule for
that at this point. But to your point then, there could be an additional entrance.
Kate Aanenson: Yes, to avoid coming up to Highway 41, you can come up on West 82nd
Street, which is another way to get in. Or ultimately, Watertower Place will have an
access onto Highway 41 when it gets widened and actually that street will drop and there
will be better access there.
Mayor Furlong: Ok. So there might not be a direct access into this site from Highway
41, but there will be better access to the entire development. Very good. Thank you.
! know there is a representative from Life Time Fitness here, would you like to address
the Council on any issues?
Mark Zaebst: ! am the Senior Vice-President of Real Estate for Life Time Fitness. ! live
at 2325 Hunter Drive here in Chanhassen. Thank you for having us this evening. It's
nice to be here. I've heard that you folks did get a chance to watch the tape from the
Planning Commission, so I'll give the CNN version and won't go on for 5 hours about
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the company and the project. I would like to say a few words about the company and the
project and then I'll answer any questions that you might have. Life Time Fitness
headquarters are presently located in Eden Prairie and we've been in business for 12
years. We have over 40 locations, either open or under construction, in eight different
states and over a quarter of a million members and over 7,000 employees. We're
growing quickly, we were listed on the New York Stock Exchange last month and we're
proud about that and proud about the growth that's going on in the company around the
company. We've been very blessed in the 12 years that we've been doing this in that we
have worked very diligently on creating a concept that we found through research was
really somewhat lacking within our industry around the country. And that is that we
really didn't see large-scale high-quality facilities that were available that really met an
entire community's fitness and recreation needs--everyone from young children up to
senior citizens, families, and everyone in between. There are great operators throughout
the country with great fitness facilities or medical rehabilitation facilities or just
recreation facilities, and our goal was to design an extremely high quality experience
where anyone within a community would be able to feel welcome and again have all their
physical fitness and recreation needs met. We started with that concept that we were
going to make our first impression when someone drives on the lot. We put a lot of time
and effort into our site planning, our landscape architecture, our building architecture, as
I'm sure you've seen through the building elevations, all of our buildings are brick and
stone on all four sides. We want to make sure when people drive onto the property and
look at the buildings, the first thing they notice is high quality, even before they walk in
the front door. Once you come in the front door, people are amazed at the size and scope
and quality of the facilities. It is granite countertops, cherry wood lockers, slate-lined
hallways, the absolute best of the best. In order to keep these things affordable, we've
designed our company where we've brought all of our disciplines in-house. So we have
an in-house real estate development team, in-house engineering, in-house architecture,
we own our own construction company, we have our own marketing, and our own
operating company. By doing that, we are able to build these large magnificent buildings
and save a considerable amount of money over having to go out to third parties in order
to accomplish all that. We're then able to pass that savings on to the consumer and we're
known in the industry as the group that really builds the highest quality facilities and
brings them in at kind of a mid-level, extremely value-oriented pricing. That's really
been the key to our success. They are absolutely spectacular and magnificent, but also
extremely affordable for the community. We have also through our research looked at
what people didn't like about health club experiences. Obviously we put a lot of time
and effort into the physical plant, but people don't like contracts, they don't like being
tied down to commitments with health clubs, so we have a 30-day money back guarantee.
You can come in and try it out and if you don't like it after 30 days, just let us know and
all your money comes back to you. Beyond that, there is no long term contract, it's just a
month to month. So the onus is on me and my company to make sure that this facility
stays impeccably clean. We have a very large intensive capital improvement budget, so a
lot of money is put back into these facilities every year because we have to keep our
customer service at the highest level, our physical plant at the highest level, keep our
prices competitive because if we don't, our members can vote with their feet. We've
looked at it like a restaurant--if we don't do a good job, people should be able to leave.
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Not bragging, but we have the lowest attrition rate, the drop-out rate, of any commercial
health club organization in the country. So we really try to do an extremely good job of
making sure that our members are well taken care of. We also want to make it extremely
convenient so the facility has incredible components in it, but it's also open 7 days a
week, 24 hours a day. We've found throughout the country that members absolutely love
that. We get hospital workers, folks that work on fire crews, police officers, folks over at
Byerly's that get off at 2 a.m. and it's nice to have that facility available for people any
time that they want. We're very excited to come to the community. ! failed to mention
that we also have an extremely large in-house research team that does all of our
demographics and GIS research around the country in identifying geographical trait areas
where we feel that the right types of families are located there and the right quantities and
research has definitely shown us that there is a need. ! know that well. I've lived here
for 7 years and we know that there is a need for this type of facility and we're very
excited to bring it to the City of Chanhassen. I'd be glad to answer any questions now.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions?
Councilman Lundquist: The two issues other than the traffic thing that went through the
Planning Commission, the up-lighting and the second row of parking. Kate talked about
the second row of parking could always come back since your plans are a couple of years
down the road. You guys are ok with that?
Mark Zaebst: Yes.
Councilman Lundquist: Then the up-lighting thing. What's Life Time's stance on the
staff report that recommends denial of that up-lighting.
Mark Zaebst: ! have a plan, would you like me to put it on the overhead? We took some
photographs of the outside of one of our buildings. The reason ! wanted to show you the
picture was so that everyone didn't think we had these gigantic spotlight shining up into
the air. It's more landscape lighting as you can see on the picture. It's extremely low
level, pointed low at the buildings. It just gives the building a nice glow. So it's not
really there to gather a great deal of attention from the street or anything like that. It's
just to beautify the building. ! somewhat equate it to when you see a nice home with
some landscape lighting shining up through the bushes. It's just a landscaping type of
lighting and feature. That's why we feel it's important. Again, only because we've built
so many of these it's just absolutely beautiful at night. It's extremely low level and just
washes the under part of the building.
Councilman Labatt: Without getting overly technical, do you have any idea what the
wattage is? Is it low voltage lighting.
Mark Zaebst: I don't, but I brought the gentleman who does. This is our in-house
architect Bill Doer and he can answer that question for you.
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Bill Doer: Hi, ! live at 2355 East Medicine Lake Boulevard in Plymouth. ! am the
Director of Architecture at Life Time Fitness. This is a wall section, it may be a little
hard to read. The lights are aimed at the building. There is a very tight cone of light sent,
it is a 50 watt low voltage fixture, so there isn't a lot of light level. As you see in the
photos, most of the heavier light, the higher foot candles, in this case 30 ft. candles, is
right at the center and occurs about 10 ft. up on the building. This diagram shows that by
the top of the building at 42 ft., there is a .07 foot candle level, which is under 1 ft. candle
acceptable level at property lines for down-lighting, so the cone of light is aimed at the
building and isn't aimed straight up at the sky. We feel it enhances the building, it occurs
in the rhythm of the architecture in the front of the building, and it doesn't emit light off
of the building, it just accents it, so we've had it with and without and since we've added
it we like what we've found. We think it's an architectural feature and we understand
that it doesn't meet ordinance per se, if it were shining in the sky but we feel it doesn't
and that it's low level light. We'd like an opportunity to have it as a part of this project.
Councilman Peterson: So you said that it's 50 watt spot.
Kate Aanenson: Can ! just address another concern. When this went before the Planning
Commission, it was noticed in the paper with one variance for the parking. It was never
noticed for light. There were two lighting issues--one the original project had 40 ft. tall
parking lot posts which are in violation of the ordinance which is 20 ft. So we just said
fix that. When they appeared before the Planning Commission, they requested that, we
were looking if there was a way through photo-metrics or through cut-offs if we could
still meet the intent of the ordinance, but technically and legally it was never noticed for a
lighting variance. ! just wanted to clarify that point and ! believe that if we're not going
to meet the intent of it, we'd have to go back and notice that as an issue.
Councilman Peterson: What's the ordinance Kate? ! can't remember the specifics.
Kate Aanenson: What is says is no up-lighting. There are exemptions for that like a flag
and we have given a variance for the cinema, but that was noticed. So what we were
thinking was if there are other ways to get the intent of the ordinance through cut-off,
which would be a lower height. Because even at the half-foot candle, there is still a
pretty big glow when you're looking at three buildings of that size with all that parking
lot lighting. It's hard for us to measure that just looking at this type of picture. What
you're not seeing is all the additional parking lot lighting with it. It's going to be well-lit.
There's nothing else at that corner.
Councilman Peterson: How far spaced are the lights going to be?
Bill Doer: They are approximately 20 feet and they are more frequent on each end. They
are occurring between each window along this portion of the building and then this
portion.
Mark Zaebst: Mr. Mayor, may I also submit another picture? This is from a distance and
you can see the facility from the street and the parking lot lighting.
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Mayor Furlong: As he's doing that, from an architectural standpoint, our ordinance does
provide down-lighting within certain requirements. Can you achieve the same effect with
down-lighting
Bill Doer: Yes and, not in this photo, but we actually have a series of down-lights and
they light more the upper half of the building and we have some accent medallions that
you'll see on the elevation and we accent them with those as well. There is some light
that comes off the parking lot and it does light the building, but its very monotone and not
a lot of accept to it, so these just provide a little texture and follow the rhythm of the
building. It's a real subtle detail. We feel that it isn't going to light the sky or go against
what the ordinance was intended for, but we still think it's an asset. We have a ledge-
stone base on this with some varying elevations of materials as they project and it creates
a nice shadow line. It has a really nice effect and we're trying to keep our current proto-
type.
Councilman Lundquist: Kate, help me understand this. If we decide to allow the up-
lighting, while in fact we can't allow the up-lighting tonight, we'd have to go back
through.
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Councilman Lundquist: What does that make our... ! guess we can talk about it when it
comes back.
Todd Gerhardt: You could approve the site plan this evening and direct staff to take the
applicant through the variance process for the up-lighting. Just separate the issue.
Councilman Lundquist: Ok, so we could approve all three motions as is and they can
come back and file for a variance on the lighting piece later?
Kate Aanenson: That's correct.
Councilman Lundquist: Ok, because even if we decided tonight, we can't approve it.
Kate Aanenson: You have another option to give them some direction as to whether or
not you're leaning toward granting that. The Planning Commission was .... technically it
wasn't noticed in the public hearing. There might have been other comments from other
people on that.
Mayor Furlong: Since we're on this issue, I'll ask the question. We allowed up-lighting
at the Cinema, but have there been other requests for up-lighting along Highway 5?
Councilman Lundquist: How about Prince's building? How does he do that purple stuff
on his building?
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Kate Aanenson: I'm not aware of any purple stuff on his building. We do get requests
and staff points out what the ordinance says. We've had very few attempts for variances
on that. Again, we did support the Cinema one because we decided that it was an
exciting place and we wanted that. Looking at this one we felt like that there is lighting
in between all those windows, there's a lot of window breaks, and parking lot lighting. It
just seems like a lot of extra.
Mayor Furlong: Any other questions? If not, gentlemen, thank you.
Todd Gerhardt: Mr. Mayor ! do have one question. Mark, can you talk about a
construction schedule on this?
Mark Zaebst: Not putting the cart before the horse, but if we are approved this evening,
our intent would be to start on the first phase of construction earliest by the end of this
month or early September. We'd like to get things moving quickly here.
Mayor Furlong: Is the first phase the health club?
Mark Zaebst: Yes.
Mayor Furlong: When would you anticipate opening if you followed that schedule?
Mark Zaebst: It will take us approximately 12 months to complete from the time we
break ground. Hopefully 11, we'd like to hit half the pool season. We never seem to get
that extra month break in Minnesota.
Mayor Furlong: Especially with the weather we've had this August.
Mark Zaebst: Yes, it might snow tonight.
Mayor Furlong: What about the second and third phase from a construction schedule
standpoint?
Mark Zaebst: Right now our intent is that we are already bursting at the seams at our
corporate headquarters. Our intent would be to open the first office building towards the
end of 2007.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. I'll bring it back to Council for discussion.
Councilman Lundquist: I'll use a line from Mr. Peterson before and say that an
opportunity doesn't knock too often. Here's something that we've been after for a long
time and explored many different ways and we have a company before us that is willing
to fund it with their money and isn't asking us to chip in, so ! think it' s a well thought out
plan and it looks like there's been a lot of work put into it.
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Councilman Peterson: I agree. I think it's an opportunity that we've for a long time and
! did watch the Planning Commission go through it in detail and ! think it was really a
favorable conversation with the Planning Commission. I'd like to complement the staff
and the applicant for a good product. ! think the parking issue is kind of resolved tonight
and I'd be interested in driving by one of the properties to view the lighting at night. I've
got 75 watt low voltage at my house every 20 feet. ! know it doesn't light the
neighborhood, but ! don't have parking lot lights or lights from the inside of the building
coming out either. I'm not adverse to it, but it's a little bit of a dichotomy in that we
approved it for the cinema primarily because it was kind of a boring building. So now
we're not approving it because we have an exciting building that this will kind of accent.
It's not the only reason we up-lit the cinema, but it was part of it. It was a big wall with
nothing there. So I'm not adverse to having the lighting, but I'd like to drive by a
property to get a better sense. Hopefully there is one in town and not out-state so ! can do
that. Let's get her done.
Councilman Ayotte: I don't want the light issue to slow down getting a fitness facility in
this city. Let's go.
Councilman Labatt: I would agree. Getting hung up on the lights is not where we should
be going. ! think we all believe this will be a wonderful addition to this corner and to our
city and we talked that the lights accent the building and we have a lit building that the
owner puts purple lens over clear lights and makes his building purple and some other
colors at times. We can't do anything about it, and he could add down-lighting without a
problem, but he wants up-lighting and we can't because of our ordinance. ! think our
ordinance stinks to tell you the truth. If they can put it down, why can't they put it up? !
think what we need to do is send a message to the applicant and staff and say that if we
could we'd give you the variance for lighting tonight. Obviously we can't because our
hands are tied, but come back at your earliest convenience so you can get your variance
and since maybe it was a technicality on the city's part, let's waive the variance fee and
make this as quick as possible for the applicant. This is going to be a great addition to
our city like everyone said.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. It's interesting when we start talking about up-lighting or
down-lighting when we're talking about the magnitude of this project and how long
we've been looking for this asset. In addition, not only the health club which schedule is
coming sooner, but also corporate headquarters at this site. A little patience has seemed
to paid off. On the issue of the lighting, I'm not going to take any more time. I know
with the cinema there was concern about shielding and making sure there wasn't
spillover. You know, that's a valid issue, but let's not worry any more about that tonight.
Let's take a look at some other examples they have and make sure we are being
consistent. If we need to review our ordinance, let's review our ordinance not for a
particular applicant, but for the city in its entirety. We've done that before to make sure
we're looking at the whole city and not just a particular site or application. All the
residents I've spoken to on this issue have the greeted the prospects of Life Time coming
here with nothing but excitement. I think that will bode well for your membership drive
and I think it will clearly be one of the assets of our city in the long-term We do have a
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number of motions we need to pass. The first one is one page 10. Not that I'm
anticipating any issues, but since it does require more than a simple majority vote I'd like
to deal with that one separately.
Councilman Lundquist moved and Councilman Labatt seconded to approve the
amendment to the Arboretum Business Park Development Design Standards, PUD
#92-6, Permitted Uses to permit health clubs on Lot 5, Block 4, Arboretum Business
Park PUD Plan (Outlot A, Arboretum Business Park 4th Addition to be platted as
Lot 1, Block 1, Life Time Fitness). All voted in favor and the motion carried.
Councilman Lundquist moved and Councilman Peterson seconded that the City
Council approve Site Plan Planning Case #04-22 for a two-story, 109,000 square-
foot health club with a pool and two three-story, 100,000 square-feet office
buildings, and the temporary use of a sales/membership trailer, plans prepared by
Alliant Engineering, Inc., dated 6/18/04, revised 7/28/04, based on the findings of
fact attached to the staff report and subject to the following conditions:
1. The developer shall enter into a site plan agreement with the City and provide
the security required by it.
2. The developer shall final plat Outlot A, Arboretum Business Park 4th Addition,
prior to issuance of any building permits.
The temporary sales trailer may be located in the southeast corner of the site.
The temporary sales trailer shall comply with the standards used for sales
trailers for residential developments. The temporary sales trailer shall be
removed within 10 business days of the issuance of a certificate of occupancy for
the fitness center.
4. Wall-mounted light fixtures shall be shielded with a total cutoff angle equal to or
less than 90 degrees. Lighting shall not be directed skyward.
5. All signs shall require a separate sign permit.
6. Applicant shall install undulating berms along northwest property line.
7. The parking directly adjacent to Highway 5 must be deleted and additional
berming provided in the location where the parking was deleted.
8. The buildings must be protected with automatic fire sprinkler systems.
9. The building plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed
in the State of Minnesota.
10. If the property will be re-platted into separate lots, consideration must be given
to the location of the property lines in relation to the proposed buildings.
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11. Complete utility plans need to be submitted for review and approval by the
engineering and building inspection staff prior to issuance of the building
permit.
12. The plans were reviewed for general building code compliance. Detailed
building plans need to be submitted for review and approval by city staff.
13. The applicant is responsible to obtain and comply with all regularity agency
permits including but not limited to MnDOT, Watershed District, MPCA, etc.
14. A professional civil engineer registered in the state of Minnesota must sign all
plans.
15. Installation of the private utilities for the site will require permits and
inspections through the City's Building Department
16. If importing or exporting material for development of the site is necessary, the
applicant will be required to supply the City with a detailed haul route and
traffic control plan.
17. All disturbed areas must be sodded and/or seeded and mulched within two
weeks of grading completion. At the completion of Phase i, seeding or sod shall
be placed on the sites of Phase ii and iii.
18. Sanitary sewer and water hookup charges will be applicable for the new lot. The
2004 trunk hookup charge is $1,458.00 per unit for sanitary sewer, $2,814.00 per
unit for watermain and the SAC fee is $1,425 per unit. All of these charges are
based on the number of SAC units assigned by the Metropolitan Council.
Sanitary sewer and watermain hookup fees may be specially assessed against the
parcel at the time of building permit issuance.
And that the Chanhassen City Council denies the parking variance to permit two
rows of parking between Office Building 1 and Highway 5 based on the findings of
fact attached to the staff report. All voted in favor and the motion carried.
Mayor Furlong: At this point then, that completes item 5a on our agenda and we'll move
to item 5b. Is there a staff report or are there questions? Staff is available for questions.
Are there any thoughts or comments on 5b or 5c, these are simply the final plat approval
consistent with the site plan that we just approved.
Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to approve the final plat
for Life Time Fitness creating one lot and associated right-of-way for Corporate Place
(plans prepared by Schoell & Madsen, Inc.) subject to the following conditions:
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1. The total SWMP fees are $223,841.00 and are due payable to the City at the time of
final plat recording.
The developer shall be required to enter into a PUD Agreement/Development
Contract with the City and provide a financial security in the form of a letter of
credit or cash escrow to guarantee site improvements.
Type HI erosion control fencing will be required adjacent to wetland areas.
Additional erosion control fence may be necessary at the toe of steep slope areas
and adjacent to storm water ponds after the grading has been completed.
All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately
restored with seed and disc-mulched or wood fiber blanket or sod after
completion of each activity in accordance with the City's Best Management
Practice Handbook.
Wetland buffer areas shall be surveyed and staked in accordance with the City's
wetland ordinance. The City will install wetland buffer edge signs before
construction begins and will charge the applicant $20 per sign.
The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate
regulatory agencies, i.e. Carver County, Watershed District, Metropolitan Waste
Control Commission, Health Department, Minnesota Pollution control Agency,
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, Army Corps of Engineers and
Minnesota Department of Transportation and comply with their conditions of
approval.
7. The lowest floor or opening elevation of all buildings shall be a minimum of 2
feet above the 100-year high water level.
The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles
found during construction and shall relocate or abandon the drain tile as
directed by the City Engineer.
9. The development shall comply with the development design standards for
Arboretum Business Park.
10. Full trail fees shall be collected per city ordinance for Life Time Fitness.
11. A professional civil engineer registered in the state of Minnesota must sign all plans.
12. Sanitary sewer and water hookup charges will be applicable for the new lot. The 2004
trunk hookup charge is $1,458.00 per unit for sanitary sewer, $2,814.00 per unit for
watermain and the SAC fee is $1,425 per unit. All of these charges are based on the
number of SAC units assigned by the Metropolitan Council. Sanitary sewer and
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watermain hookup fees may be specially assessed against the parcel at the time of building
permit issuance.
13. The underlying property has been previously assessed for sewer, water and street
improvements. The remaining assessment due payable to the City is $308,807.60. This
assessment is due at the time of final plat recording.
14. The applicant is required to upgrade the cul-de-sac to current City standards with a 60-
foot right-of-way radius, a 48-foot pavement radius, and B-618 concrete curb and gutter.
Because of the substandard street section, the existing cul-de-sac pavement will have to be
removed and the street will need to be repaved per City Detail Plate No. 5201.
15. The cul-de-sac center island in Corporate Place will be allowed but an encroachment
agreement will be required for the placement of the island within the right-of-way and for
maintenance of the island.
And further, that the construction plans and specifications dated July 28, 2004, prepared
by Alliant Engineering, Inc. and the development contract dated August 9, 2004 be
approved conditioned upon the following:
The applicant shall enter into the development contract and supply the city with a
cash escrow or letter of credit in the amount of $127,312 and pay an administration fee
of $279,878.
2. The applicant's engineer shall work with city staff in revising the construction plans to
meet city standards.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS
Mayor Furlong: That completes the items on our agenda this evening. Are there any
council presentations?
Councilman Ayotte: I just want to comment on our work session tonight for those people
at home. A couple of milestones tonight. Regarding public safety, some analyses will be
going on to identify our needs and to see if we're going down the right path. ! can't say
much more than that because the council has to act as a whole, but I'd like to make the
comments since I'm coming to the arise of my term here, ! have a few more months, that
public safety is finally getting more focus and attention and ! think it's coming full circle
and I'm very excited about the potential outcome. Thanks.
Mayor Furlong: Other Council presentations? I guess just a couple of comments
following up on the safety theme. Over the last week to ten days there were two events
regarding safety. Last Tuesday was National Night Out. ! know ! was able to ride along
with the Sheriff' s Department and attended some neighborhood meetings. ! believe some
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of my fellow council members did as well and it was nice to see residents come out and,
if nothing else, get to know one another and talk about safety issues or other issues. It
was very positive. ! also had a chance to stop by the Safety Camp put on a week ago
Thursday. Beth Hoiseth our Crime Prevention Specialist, this was her 8th or 9th year of
this event. ! think she said 9th. There were 120 third graders there. If you have a third
grader next year, or a fourth grader that has never attended, make a note and try and get
them out there next year. Space fills up quickly, but it's a great program and very well
done and good participation by our city staff. Beth also coordinates the National Night
Out. ! think there were 29 parties this year. It was interesting; ! saw in our paper that
Chanhassen is the only city in Carver County that participates in National Night Out. !
think that is a credit to us and that we have 29 neighborhoods that gather to do this. Good
program. Any other council presentations?
Councilman Labatt: As we look at our budgeting process, ! think we should order a heart
defibrillator for our CSO vehicle. Presently there is none in there and he does respond to
medical emergencies and ! was informed about one that occurred a few weeks ago that he
showed on his good grace to assist and didn't have one. As an initial first responder, !
think we need to have one in that vehicle. So as we look at our 2005 budget, or maybe
there's some yearend money, we should purchase one.
Councilman Peterson: Those are only $500 bucks or something, aren't they?
Councilman Labatt: Yes.
Todd Gerhardt: We'll look into that.
Mayor Furlong: With training?
Todd Gerhardt: Oh yes.
Councilman Labatt: ! just wanted to bring that up the Council. Maybe we can purchase
that in the next month or so if there's money left over.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS:
Todd Gerhardt: ! don't know if you noticed the activity occurring at the Bowling Alley
right now? The building is about half demolished and they have started the party wall
between the cinema and the existing bowling alley. Once that's completed, the rest of the
building will come down. We also are working with the Chamber on a joint effort to
remodel the Old Village Hall. If you drive over there you'll see a couple of windows that
are ready to fall out and the front door is in disrepair also. We're working together and
they are sharing their resources along with ours to fix the building up. That's a great
project and you may hear more about that in the future. Other than that, that's all ! have.
Any questions for me?
Mayor Furlong: No. Thank you.
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CORRESPONDENCE PACKET. None.
We will be continuing our work session items. We recessed on Item B. We'll pick up
both Items B & C and we'll stay right here in the Council Chambers following this
meeting.
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to adjourn the
meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried. The City Council meeting was
adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
Prepared by Karen Engelhardt
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