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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Todd Gerhardt, City Manager
FROM:
Josh Metzer, Planner I
DATE:
of{Ý7 .
March 14,2005
SUBJ:
Consider Amendment to Conditional Use Permit 75-2 to
Eliminate Horsepower Restriction at Boat Access #1 in Lake
Minnewashta Regional Park - Planning Case No. 04-37
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Request for amendment to Conditional Use Permit 75-2 to eliminate
horsepower restriction at Boat Access #1 in Lake Minnewashta Regional
Park, located west of Highway 41, north of Ches-Mar Farm Road and east of
Lake Minnewashta. The site is zoned RR, Rural Residential District.
ACTION REQUIRED
City Council approval requires a simple majority of City Council present.
PLANNING COMMISSION SUMMARY
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on February 1, 2005 to review the
proposed conditional use permit amendment. The Planning Commission voted 4 to
2 to approve the proposed request. The two no votes were based on environmental
reasons. The summary and verbatim minutes are attached.
RECOMMENDA TION
Staff and the Planning Commission recommend adoption of the motion approving
the conditional use permit amendment as specified in the staff report dated
February 1, 2005.
ATTACHMENTS
1. Planning Commission Staff Report Dated February 1,2005.
2. Planning Commission Minutes dated February 1,2005.
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PROPOSAL: Amendment to Conditional Use Permit (CUP #75-2) to eliminate horsepower
restriction at Boat Access #1 in Lake Minnewashta Regional Park, located west of
Highway 41, north of Ches-Mar Farm Road and east of Lake Minnewashta.
LOCATION: 6731 Hazeltine Blvd.
Excelsior, MN 55311
APPLICANT: Carver County Parks
11360 Highway 212
P.O. Box 330
Cologne, MN 55322
PRESENT ZONING: RR, Rural Residential District
2020 LAND USE PLAN: Parks/Open Space
ACREAGE: 340 acres
DENSITY: N/ A
SUMMARY OF REQUEST: Carver County Parks is seeking an amendment to their conditional
use permit (CUP #75-2) to eliminate the horsepower restriction at Boat Access #1 in Lake
Minnewashta Regional Park.
Notice of this public hearing has been mailed to all property owners within 500 feet.
LEVEL OF CITY DISCRETION IN DECISION-MAKING: The City's discretion in approving
or denying a conditional use permit is limited to whether or not the proposed conditional use permit
meets the standards outlined in the Subdivision Regulations and Zoning Ordinance. If it meets these
standards, the City must approve the conditional use permit. This is a quasi-judicial decision.
Minnewashta Regional Park
Conditional Use Permit Amendment - Planning Case No. 04-37
February 1,2005
Page 2
PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
Carver County Parks is seeking an amendment to their conditional use permit (CUP #75-2) to
eliminate the horsepower restriction at Boat Access #1 located in Lake Minnewashta Regional
Park. The park is located west of Highway 41 on the eastern shore of Lake Minnewashta. The
CUP prohibits the launching of boats with motor sizes greater than 10 horsepower from Access
#1.
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BACKGROUND
On November 21, 1977, the City Council approved Conditional Use Permit #75-2 for Lake
Minnewashta Regional Park including the following conditions:
4.01. Review and Approval.
Detailed development plans within the proposed park shall be submitted to the City for
review and comment prior to approval by the County. It is not contemplated that the City
shall have approval authority over detailed development plans so long as they are
consistent in scope and capacities with the Master Plan, except for appropriate
development standards which may be applied to development generally within the City.
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Any development plans not consistent in scope and capacities with the Master Plan shall
require an amended conditional use permit.
6.04. Lake Access.
Access to Lake Minnewashta through the park shall be limited to non-motorized boats or
fishing boats of fifteen (15) horsepower or less.
Originally, the park had only one access located at Little Minne Bay (Boat Access #1). This
access consisted of 30 car/trailer spaces and restricted access allowing boat motors of 15
horsepower or less.
During review of the Minnewashta Regional Park Master Plan in 1982, the Metropolitan Council
noted that the 15 horsepower motor restriction placed by the City of Chanhassen on the public
access in the park was discriminatory in nature. Furthermore, it was inconsistent with the
"Cooperative Program in Providing Public Access Sites on Metropolitan Area Lakes" which was
prepared by the Metropolitan Council, the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR),
and the State Planning Agency. The Metropolitan Council stated they would withhold grants for
the City and park until the 15 horsepower restriction was removed.
As a result, staff worked out a compromise that would satisfy DNR & Metropolitan Council
standards while still protecting the environmentally sensitive Little Minne Bay. On September
12, 1983, the City Council approved the amendment to Conditional Use Permit #75-2 for Lake
Minnewashta Regional Park including the following change to 6.04:
6.04. Lake Access.
A watercraft access to Lake Minnewashta through the Park has been provided in the area
so designated as boat access on the Detailed Development Plan of the 1982 Park Master
Plan Update. Said access (Boat Access #1) is to be limited for launch of watercraft of ten
(10) horsepower or less and have a capacity of 10 carltrailer spaces. An additional access
(Boat Access #2) without horsepower restrictions having a capacity for 25 car/trailer
spaces shall be developed and located in accordance with the plan titled "Lake
Minnewashta Park 2nd Access" marked Official Copy.
In 1983 there was a public access on the western shore of Lake Minnewashta adjacent to Leach's
Resort (since replaced by residential development). The decision was made to close this public
access at the time the newly created Boat Access #2 in Lake Minnewashta Regional Park would
open.
ANALYSIS
In 1974-1975, when the plans for Lake Minnewashta Regional Park were first being considered,
the City was concerned about the possible effects a public access could have on Little Minne Bay
given the shallow and narrow nature of the channel connecting Little Minne Bay to Lake
Minnewashta. During dry, low water level conditions this channel becomes extremely shallow.
It was thought that boat motors with higher horsepower and larger hulls could negatively impact
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the channel floor. Attached is an aerial photograph created by Mark Hurd Mapping Co. in 1945
showing Lake Minnewashta and Little Minne Bay during extremely dry conditions. Notice the
channel is completely void of water. Also attached is an article developed by the Minnesota
Lakes Association that describes the possible impacts of motorized watercraft on the lake
en vironment.
The DNR approved the establishment of slow-no wake surface zoning within 100 feet of shore,
in designated areas, in Little Minne Bay and Lake Minnewashta. In a letter written to the City,
stamped "Received September 29,2004", Carver County Parks states:
. The "No Wake" restriction eliminates the need for a horsepower restriction in Little
Minne Bay.
. It is not reasonable to enforce a horsepower restriction and keep track of boaters coming
and going from two boat accesses and their motor sizes.
Carver County also stated that it is difficult for park users to launch their boats from Boat Access
#2. The difficulty with launching at access #2 is due to the shallowness of the area, especially
during dry conditions, and because it is unprotected from high winds coming off the lake. Staff
agrees that the slow-no wake surface zoning makes the need for a horsepower restriction
obsolete. However, staff is concerned that eventually there will be a need for drudging in order
to maintain access through the channel between Little Minne Bay and Lake Minnewashta due to
vegetative growth and shallow depth in that area. Therefore, Carver County Parks must contact
the DNR to obtain proper approvals and permits before drudging may occur. Staff also
contacted the following Minnesota DNR staff members requesting comment:
Kim Elverum
Julie Ekman
Wayne Barstad
Daryl Ellison
Boat & Water Safety Coordinator
Area Hydrologist-West Metro, Central Region 3
Regional Environmental Assessment Ecologist
Area Supervisor for Fisheries
None had any issues with the elimination of the horsepower restriction at Boat Access #1 in Lake
Minnewashta Regional Park; however, Mr. Ellison stated that there are lots of water lilies and
other quality emergent and submergent vegetation in this bay that should be protected with a
"no-wake" zone restriction.
Carver County Parks' "Lake Minnewashta Regional Park Master Plan", which was updated in
October 2002 and has not been approved by the City of Chanhassen, lays out plans to make Boat
Access #1 the sole boat launch in the park. It is Carver County's intention to eventually close
Boat Access #2 and expand Boat Access #1 infrastructure to accommodate 35 trailer parking
spaces and 20 regular vehicle parking spaces.
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On January 13,2005, Carver County held a public information meeting regarding the proposed
amendment. Notice of this meeting was mailed to all Lake Minnewashta property owners and
was also posted in the Chanhassen Villager. Five lake residents attended the meeting, none of
which opposed the lifting of the horsepower restriction.
Staff supports the amendment of Conditional Use Permit 75-2 to eliminate the horsepower
restriction at Boat Access #1 in Lake Minnewashta Regional Park. In regards to the proposed
future intensification of Boat Access #1, the City must critically analyze the impact of such
intensified use on Little Minne Bay before considering approval of such plans.
FINDINGS
The Planning Commission shall recommend a conditional use permit and the Council shall issue
such conditional use permits only if it finds that such use at the proposed location:
1. Will not be detrimental to or damage the public health, safety, comfort, convenience or general
welfare of the neighborhood of the city.
Finding: The amendment will not be detrimental to the general welfare of the city. The
existing restrictions should protect the character of the area.
2. Will be consistent with the objectives of the city's comprehensive plan and this chapter.
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Finding: The amendment will be consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and Chapter 20
of the City Code.
3. Will be designed, constructed, operated and maintained so as to be compatible in appearance
with the existing or intended character of the general vicinity and will not change the essential
character of that area.
Finding: The amendment will not change the character of the area while boats with
motors greater than 10 horsepower will be permitted launch access on Little Minne Bay,
they are still restricted to no wake.
4. Will not be hazardous or disturbing to existing or planned neighboring uses.
Finding: The amendment will not be hazardous or disturbing to existing or planned
neighboring uses.
5. Will be served adequately by essential public facilities and services, including streets, police and
fire protection, drainage structures, refuse disposal, water and sewer systems and schools; or
will be served adequately by such facilities and services provided by the persons or agencies
responsible for the establishment of the proposed use.
Finding: Adequate public facilities already exist.
6. Will not create excessive requirements for public facilities and servIces and will not be
detrimental to the economic welfare of the community.
Finding: Additional public facilities and services will not be required.
7. Will not involve uses, activities, processes, materials, equipment and condition of operation that
will be detrimental to any persons, property or the general welfare because of excessive
production of traffic, noise, smoke, fumes, glare, odors, rodents, or trash.
Finding: While the type of traffic will change with access granted to boat motors greater
than 10 horsepower, which may increase the level of noise created by boat traffic, Slow-No
Wake zoning should limit noise increases.
8. Will have vehicular approaches to the property that do not create traffic congestion or interfere
with traffic or surrounding public thoroughfares.
Finding: Adequate vehicular approaches already exist.
9. Will not result in the destruction, loss or damage of solar access, natural, scenic or historic
features of major significance.
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Findin2: The amendment will not result in significant damage of natural features of Little
Minne Bay.
10. Will be aesthetically compatible with the area.
Findinl!: The amendment will be aesthetically compatible with the area.
11. Will not depreciate surrounding property values.
Findinl!: The amendment will not depreciate surrounding property values.
12. Will meet standards prescribed for certain uses as provided in this article.
Findinl!: The amendment meets the standards of uses provided in this article.
The following changes will be made to Section 6.04 of Conditional Use Permit No. 75-2:
6.04. Lake Access.
A watercraft access to Lake Minnewashta through the Park has been provided in the area so
designated as boat access on the Detailed Development Plan of the 1982 Park Master Plan
Update. Said access is to be limited for launch of wat-ercraft of tea (10) horsepo'vTlef or less
surface zoned "Slow - No Wake" with signage at the launch site and in Little Minne Bay
and have a capacity of 10 car/trailer spaces. An additional access withoat horsepower
restrictions having a capacity for 25 car/trailer spaces shall be developed and located in
accordance with the plan titled "Lake Minnewashta Park 2nd Access" marked Official Copy."
RECOMMEND A TION
Staff recommends the Planning Commission adopt the following motion:
"The Planning Commission recommends approval of the amendment to Conditional Use Permit 75-
2, Section 6.04 Lake Access, based on the findings of fact with the following condition:
1. Carver County Parks shall contact the Department of Natural Resources before proceeding
with drudging of the Little Minne Bay channel.
Section 6.04 of Conditional Use Permit 75-2 shall be amended to read:
6.05. Lake Access.
A watercraft access to Lake Minnewashta through the Park has been provided in the area so
designated as boat access on the Detailed Development Plan of the 1982 Park Master Plan
Update. Said access is to be surface zoned "Slow - No Wake" with signage at the launch site
and in Little Minne Bay and have a capacity of 10 car/trailer spaces. An additional access having
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a capacity for 25 car/trailer spaces shall be developed and located in accordance with the plan
titled "Lake Minnewashta Park 2nd Access" marked Official Copy."
ATTACHMENTS
1. Findings of Fact.
2. Application.
3. Letter from Carver County to City of Chanhassen stamped "Received September 29,2004."
4. Conditional Use Permit 75-2.
5. Memo from City Manager Don Ashworth to Mayor and City Council dated September 12, 1983.
6. Report of the Lake Minnewashta Study Committee dated June 1983.
7. Planning Commission Minutes dated August 24, 1983.
8. Amended Conditional Use Permit 75-2.
9. Minnesota Lakes Association Reporter article, ''The Impacts of Motorized Watercraft on the
Lake Environment."
10. Carver County Lake Minnewashta Regional Park Master Plan excerpt (October 2002).
11. Public Hearing Notice and Affidavit of Mailing.
12. Aerial Photograph of Lake Minnewashta and Little Minne Bay, circa 1945.
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
FINDINGS OF FACT
AND ACTION
INRE:
Application of Carver County Parks for an amendment to Conditional Use Permit
(CUP #75-2) to eliminate horsepower restriction at Boat Access #1 in Lake
Minnewashta Regional Park, west of Highway 41, north of Ches-Mar Farm Road and
east of Lake Minnewashta .:.... Planning Case No. 04-37.
On February 1,2005, the Chanhassen Planning Commission met at its regularly
scheduled meeting to consider the application of Carver County Parks for an amendment to
Conditional Use Permit (CUP #75-2) to eliminate horsepower restriction at Boat Access #1
in Lake Minnewashta Regional Park, west of Highway 41, north of Ches-Mar Farm Road
and east of Lake Minnewashta. The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing on the
proposed variance that was preceded by published and mailed notice. The Planning
Commission heard testimony from all interested persons wishing to speak and now makes
the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The property is currently zoned Rural Residential (RR).
2. The property is guided by the Land Use Plan for Park/Open Space.
3. The legal description of the property is: S Y2 of NW 1.4 of Section 4; S Y2 of Section 4;
NE 1.4 of SE 1.4 of Section 5; N Y2 ofNW 1j,¡ of Section 9, Township 116, Range 023.
4. The Planning Commission shall recommend a conditional use permit and the council
shall issue such conditional use permits only if it finds that such use at the proposed
location:
a. Will not be detrimental to or damage the public health, safety, comfort, convenience
or general welfare of the neighborhood of the city.
b. Will be consistent with the objectives of the city's comprehensive plan and this
chapter.
c. Will be designed, constructed, operated and maintained so as to be compatible in
appearance with the existing or intended character of the general vicinity and will
not change the essential character of that area.
d. Will not be hazardous or disturbing to existing or planned neighboring uses.
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e. Will be served adequately by essential public facilities and services, including
streets, police and fire protection, drainage structures, refuse disposal, water and
sewer systems and schools; or will be served adequately by such facilities and
services provided by the persons or agencies responsible for the establishment of the
proposed use.
f. Will not create excessive requirements for public facilities and services and will not
be detrimental to the economic welfare of the community.
g. Will not involve uses, activities, processes, materials, equipment and condition of
operation that will be detrimental to any persons, property or the general welfare
because of excessive production of traffic, noise, smoke, fumes, glare, odors,
rodents, or trash.
h. Will have vehicular approaches to the property that do not create traffic congestion
or interfere with traffic or surrounding public thoroughfares.
1. Will not result in the destruction, loss or damage of solar access, natural, scenic or
historic features of major significance.
J. Will be aesthetically compatible with the area.
k. Will not depreciate surrounding property values.
1. Will meet standards prescribed for certain uses as provided in this article.
5. The planning report #04-37 conditional use permit amendment dated February 1,
2005, prepared by Josh Metzer, et ai, is incorporated herein.
ACTION
The Chanhassen Planning Commission approves the amendment to Conditional Use
Permit (CUP #75-2) to eliminate horsepower restriction at Boat Access #1 in Lake Minnewashta
Regional Park.
ADOPTED by the Chanhassen Planning Commission on this 1st day of February, 2005.
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
BY:
Planning Commission Chairperson
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CARVER COUNTY PARKS
11360 Highway 212 West, PO Box 330
Cologne,.MN 55322-0330
Phone (952) 466-5250 Fax (952) 466-5223
WVvw.co.carver.mn.us/parks
Division of Public Works
] 1360 Hwy. 212 West, PO Box 300
Cologne, MN 55322-0300
Phone (952) 466-5200
Fax (952) 466-5223
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COUNTY
Kate Aanenson
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Blvd
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
RECEIVED
SEP 2' 9 2004
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Dear Ms. Aanenson,
Earlier this summer we talked about the horsepower restriction listed in the Lake Minnewashta
Regional Park Conditional Use Permit issued by the City of Chanhassen. Since the inception of the
conditional use permit the DNR has added "No Wake" restrictions to the bay of Lake Minnewashta
where boat access #1 is located. The ''No Wake" restriction eliminates the need for a horsepower
restriction in the bay of Lake Minnewashta.
Additionally, the horsepower restriction is not manageable. Boaters come and go throughout the
day with varying motor sizes. A boater will choose one of two parking areas in the park based on
availability of a parking stall and not the size of motor. It is not reasonable to enforce a horsepower
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restriction and keep track of boaters coming and going from two boat accesses and their motor sizes.
For these reasons, Carver County Parks requests the conditional use permit be amended to
eliminate the horsepower restriction at boat access #1.
Enclosed is the proposed Amendment #l for the Conditional Use Permit for Lake Minnewashta
Regional Park
Please notify me with any questions or concerns by October 15th, 2004.
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
:j; CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
LAKE MINNEWASHTA REGIONAL PARK
THIS AGREEMENT, made and entered into by and between the City of
Chanhassen, hereinafter referred to as the City, and the Board of
Commissioners of Carver County, hereinafter referred to as th~
County;
WITNESSETH, That in the exercis~ of their powers pursuant to law,
and in consideration of the mutual covenants herein contained, the
City and County recite and agree as follows:
Section 1.
Recitals.
1.01. State Law and City Zoning Ordinance. It is qcknowledged by
the parties hereto that under the provisions of M.S.§398.32~ no
county park lands or waters may be acquired within the limits of any
city without the approval by resolution of the govering body of any
such city; and it is further acknowledged that under the provisions
of the City zoning ordinance, parks and recreational areas owned and
operated by governmental units may be allowed within residential
zoning districts only upon the securing of a conditional use permit
from the City.
1.02. County Park Proposal. The County proposes the acquisition
of a r~gional county park to be located on the northeast shore of
Lake Minnewashta, designating said park as Lake Minnewashta Regional
Park (hereinafter referred to as .the "park"), and has made applica-
tion to the City for approval of said acquisition and the issuance
of a conditional use permit.
1. 03. Lake Minnewashta Regional Park Master Plan. Except as here-
inafter modified or otherwise provided, the Lake Minnewashta Regional
Park Master Plan as approved by the County Board of Cornmissionersby
resolution dated August i 1975, forms the conceptual basis of the
within conditional use permit for said County Regional Park. Said
Master Plan and approving County resolution are attached hereto as
Exhibits "A" and "B" respectivèly and incorporated herein by reference_
1.04. General Purpose. The purpose of this agreement is to set
forth the terms and conditions governing the approval by the City of
the parkland acquisition and the grant of the within conditional use
permit which are conditions precedent to land acquisition by the County
for the park.
Section 2.
Park Areas C and D
2.01. Master Plan. In reliance on action taken by the Metropolitan
Council of the Twin Cities and its Physical Development Committee,
whereby land area Parcels C and D were incorporated in and made a
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part of the Master Plan of the Lake Minnewashta Regional Park, here.-
inafter referred to as the nMaster Plan," the partiés hereto
acknowledge the necessity oftþe acquisition and development by the
County of land area Parcels C arid- D east of State Trunk Highway #41
for utilization as a natural demonstration and study area.
2.02. Acquisition Funding. The parties hereto acknowledge that
Parcels C _and D are integral compcnents of 'the MasterPlan and the
acquisition of said parcels is essential to the full development of
the regional park. In recognition thereof,' the parties mutually
agree to employ their best efforts, jointly or severally or in concert
with Independent School District No. 276, to seek funding as expedi-
tiously as poss'ible for the acquisition and development of said
Parcels C and D through grants from the state and federal governments
and the Metropolitan Council of the Twin Cities.
Section 3.
Schematic Plan.
3.01. Design Capacities. The design capacities as-set forth in
Section III, Schematic Plan, of the Master Plan, and the Lake Minne-
washta Park Use Calculations of the Subcommittee for MasterPlániling
of the Lake Minnewashta Park, dated May 28, 1975, and attachedheretó
as Exhibit "c" and incorporated herein by reference, shall constitute
the maximum development allowable in said proposed park.
Section 4.
Development Plans.
4.01. Review and Approval. Q~~ailed development plans within the
proposed park shall be submitted tò't:hè-Ci týfo:!:,'- revi¡;!w'jirid--eomnrent---
'__. prior to approva.l by the County. It is 'not contemplated that the
City shall have approval authority over the detailed development plans
so long as they are consistent in scope and capacities with the Master
Plan, except for appropriate development standards which may be
'- 'applied to development generally wi thin the City. Any development
plans not consistent in scope and capacities with the Master Pian
shall require an amended conditional use permit.
4.02. Trail Connection and Lake I.,ucy Road Extension.. Upon the
acquisition of land parcels C and D,appropriatè provisions will be
made to accommodate the connection of said parcels with the trail
system proposed by the City, and if necessary, to permit the extension,
of Lake Lucy Road westerly to State Trunk Highway #41 over the extreme
southern limits of Parcel C.
4.03. Development Schedule. The County does not propose any signi-'
ficant development of the park until funds are available through the
grant program of the Metropolitan Cöuncil. Between 1978 and 1982, the
development activities at the park are proposed to consist essentially
of establishing a land stewardship program, development of a primitive
lake public access facility, and use of the existing buildings as
either a nature center or museum and park employee residence.
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consist principally of gradually phasing from cultivated land to turf
establishment on Parcel E, ,establishing a tree nursery, beginning
prairie establishment on a portion of Parcel B, providing necessary ,\
access control in terms of gate and fencing, controlling noxious
weeds, and to the extent feasible, controlling Dutch elm and oak
wilt disease.
Section 5.
Advisory Committee.-
5.01. Advisory Committee. The park is intended to fill the" regional
recreation needs of the Chaska, Charthasseri, and Victoria areas in
Carver County, which is generally described as Service Area I in the
County's Park and Open Space System Plan. In order to provide a means
of continuing review during the development and operating phases,
Carver County shall establish an Advisory Committee for Service Area 1.
This Advisory Committee shall consist of two representatives from
Chanhassen, one ,from Chaska, one from Victoria, and one fröm the County
Park Commission. The City representatives will be appointed by the
respective City Councils on an annual basis. The Advisory Committee
shall review the County's development plan and make recommendations to
the Carver County Park Commission in regard to such plan. The Advisory
Committee shall also monitor park operations in a general way, and
shall make recommendations to the County Park Commission in'regard to
improvements in operating policies. The Advisory Committee members '
shall also keep the City Councils of their respective cities informed
of their general ætivities. They shall also 5.$rve as the conduit of
concerns from their respective City Councils to the County. The
Advisory Committee snaIl be established at such time as the County
begins preparation of detailed development plans or at the request of
the City prior to that time.
Section 6.
Governing Ordinance, Policing, Fire Protection and Access.
6.01. County Park Ordinance. The Park Ordinance of the County, a
copy of which is attached hereto as Exhibit liD", shall regulate the
use of the park. The City and the Advisory Committee shall recommend
any appropriate amendments to the County Park Ordinance or regulatory
County Board Resolutions as the samemaibe applicable to the park.
In addition, all County proposed park ordinance amendments or regulatory
resolutions shall be reviewed by the Advisory Committee for its
recommendations and comments prior to enactment.
6.02. Policing. Policing of the park shall be the'responsibility of
the County through its Sheriff's Department at no cost to the City.
Any supplementary police services furnished by any future City police
department shall be performed only under the terms and conditions of
a mutual aid agreement between the City and the County.
6.03. Fire Protection and Emergency Services. Fire protection and
emergency rescue services necessitated by land-oriented incidents shall
be provided by the Fire Department of the City. Emergency rescue ser-
vices necessitated by water-oriented incidents' shall be provided by
County lifeguards or the County Sheriff's Water PatroL
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6.04. Lake Access. Access to Lake Minnewashtëithrough the park
shall be limited to non-motorized boats or fishing boats of fifteen
(15) horsepower or less.
Roads, Water and Sanitary Sewer SerVices.
Section 7.
7.01. Roads. All roads and trails within the park shall be con-
structed and maintained, including snow plowing, byihe County.
7.02. Water and Sanitary Sewer Service.s. The County shall provide
water and sanitary sewer systems through òn-site facilities approved
by the Minnesota State Board of Health and such other state regulatory
agencies having regulatory power thereof. When available, said water
and sanitary sewer services shall be connected to the City facilities
at the expense of the County. ' All connection charges, Metropolitan
Waste Control Commission sewer availability charges (SAC charges), and
sewer and water usage charges shall be paid by the County to the City
at the reasonable and customary then prevailing City rates for.
comparable,' uses. Except for trunk water and sewer assessments payable
as provided in §8.01 hereof, sewer and water charges_will not be'
based on a price structure which assumes a 211 dwelling unit develop-
ment, but rather will be based on a comparison of volumes generated by
similar residential, commercial, or institutional uses.
7.03. Water and Sanitary Sewer Easements. The County shall provide,
consistent with applicable Metropolitan Council policies and the '
grant contract for acquisition of the Lake MinnewashtaRegional Park
between the County and Metropolitan Council, at no cost to the City,
such linear water and sewer easements as the City may deem necessary
to provide water and sanitary sewer services to the park and contiguous
areas. Said easement alignments shall riot be so located as to materially
affect the character of the Park.
Section 8.
Assessments, Taxes, and Costs.
8.01. Outstanding Assessments. By resolution adopted October 20,
1975, a copy of which is attached hereto as Exhibit liE", the City
levied a total of 211 trunk water and sewer unit assessments against
the propertiesto,be acquired for the park. It is a condition to the
grant of the within conditional use permit that all of said assessments
be paid in full by the County immediately upon its acquisition of said
properties. Included within said payment shall be accrued interest
computed pursuant to M.S. §429.061.
8.02. Tax Equivalents. In the event the Metropolitan Council of the
Twin Cities fails or declines to pay to the City tax equivalents
under M.S. §473.341, it is agreed that said tax equivalents shall be
paid by the County to the City upon demand.
8.03. City Costs. The County agrees to reimburse the City promptly
upon invoicing therefor, all reasonable and customary costs incurred
by the City since the inception of the park concept through the con-
ditional use permit. Eligible costs shall consist of publication and
notification expenses, attorney fees, engineering fees, costs in
connection with the November 2, 1977 public hearing, arid any other
reasonable outside direct costs to the City.
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General Prmrisions.
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9.01. Indemnification. The County shall indemnify and hold the Cit~
harmless from liability on account of injury or damages to person or
property arising out of the operation of the park facilities. In the
event legal action is brought against the City, either solely or
jointly with the County, on account of any such injury or damage, the
County, on notice to it by the City, shall defend'the City in any such,
action at the expense of the County. In the event of judgment against
the City in any such action, the County shall-pay such judgment and
all costs in connection therewith, and hold the City harmless therefrom
The County does nòtagree to indemnify,. hold harmless, or defend any'
action or pay any judgment arising from acts of officials, employees,
or agents of the City while in the park.
9.02. Non-Assignment. Neither-the within conditional use permit
nor the park contemplated hereunder shall be ässigned or conveyed by
the County without the prior written consent of the City.
9.03. Standards Applicable. The City Council and its Planning Com-
mission have determined that in the grant of the within conditional
use permit, the standards of the Chanhassen Zöning Ordinance have been
met.
9.04. Execution. Each party wàrrants and affirms that the within
agreement was duly authorized by its respective governing body and
executed by its duly authorized officers pursuant to resolution duly
adopted, and each party shall file withfue other party a certified
copy of the resolution approving the execution of the within agree-
ment.
Executed this ~day of
Chanhassen. '
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, 1977, by the City of
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
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Executed this 6th day of December
Commissioners of Carver County.
, 1977, by the Board of
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BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
CARVERCOUHTY, MINNESOTA
Date
December 6, ,1977
Resolution No
Seconded by Commissioner.
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Motion by Commissioner. .', Aretz
Commissioner Aretz moved, seconded by Trende, to
approve the Conditional Use Permit. for the Lake Minnel-lashta
Regional Park, and authorize the vic€-chairman to sign the
agreement with Chanhassen.
YES
NO
Aretz
Trende
Gnan
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Stote of Minnesota 1 ' . , " '
County of Co rver ~ ss., .
Riiihard t.. Wadman appointed
I, Wi IGJllci¡x&Mtliler, duly tII~,1f. qualified and acting COUhty Auditor for the County Of Carver,Stote
of MiMesota, do hereby certify that I have comporedthe foregoing copy of a resolution with the original
minutes, of the proceedings of the Board of' County Commissioners, Carver (ounty, Minnèsoto, at their session
held on the . lith day of December 19.1L, now on file in my office, and have found thiSame to
be o true andcorreot copy thereof.'
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Witness my hand and official seal ot Choska, Minnesota, this
3~V of January, 1978
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(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO: Mayor and City Council
FROM: City Manager, Don Ashworth
DATE: September 12, 1983
SUBJ: Conditional Use Permit, Lake Minnewashta Regional Park
(Formalize Previous Council Action)
On July 21, 1983, th
its recommendations
extensive and co
attended by r
thrust of tha
requirement
power and to
the Regional
ed that their conditional use
onal Park be amended. The
held by the Planning
submitted'to the City
ested. Four were mihor.
politan Council to elimi-
ion for launching boats at
d considerable discussion
citizens committee to
, and to make recommen-
In August of 1982, Carver County
permit for the Lake Minnewashta
request was processed, public h
Commission, and their recommend
Council. Five changes werè be'
The fifth, was a request from
nate the existing 15 horsepow
the Regional Park. That req
and the City Council acted
review the request, consid
dation.
'~ish an unrestricted access
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The City Council action was "si
ditional use permit by incorpor
Lake Minnewashta Boat Access st
the Council. II
udy Committee presented
e committee had been
Meetings were well
a area. The major
the horsepower
horse-
point in
at
rected to amend the con-
the recommendations of the
Committee and resubmit it to
Given the time that it expired from, Roger Knutson recommended
holding a new hearing. On August 17, the Planning Commission
held the second public hearing on this item. No public comments
were received. The Planning Commission acted to endorse the
recommendation of the Lake Minnewashta study Committee_
Mayor and Council
September 12, 1983
P ag e 2
The recommendations of the Lake Minnewashta Study Committee have
been incorporated in the attached amended conditional use permit.
The permit also encompasses the four minor changes considered one
year ago. Recommendations of the Planning Commission, which do-
not relate to the conditional use permit itself, are recommended
to be approved - but not as a part of the conditional use permit.
Specifically, city staff should be instructed to physically close
the access adjacent to Leach's when the new access is completed and
to insure that the "no wake zone" is designated in accordance
with the new Water Surface Usage Ordinance. Regarding the boat
access policy, such should be considered by the Planning
Commission as a part of their current ordinance revisions.
Approval of the amended conditional use permit, as herein
attached, is recommended.
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Report Of The
Lake Hinncwashta Study Committee
June 1983
Members: Arnie Bed - Chair
Clark Horn
John Neveaux
rrom l1erz
Pat Hurphy
Established: by City Council -, August 1982
Charge: To study public access alternatives for Lake Ivlinnewashta
Background:
1. City/County Conditional Use Permit, for Lake Hinne">/ai;ht,a
Regional Park has 15 horsepower limit.
2. C~ty's informal access adjacent to Leach's Resort is
unrestricted.
3~ Private access (Leach's) is unrestricted.
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DNR does not recognize any of these 3 accesses as meeting
their definition. Therefore, no fish management programs.
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Metro Council would not approve development master planar
future developmeht funding for Lake Ivlinnewashta Regional Park
with the 15 horsepower restriction. Also, affected City's park'
grant consideration.
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County applied for C.U.P. amendment deleting the 15 horsepower
restriction.
7.
Park & Recreation Commission recommended approval.
8.
Planning Commission recommended denial.
9.
City Council established this con~ittee to study alternatives.
Commi ttee t--Jork:
1. Met 0ith DNR & Metro Council representatives:
a. Neither DNR nor Met,ro Council Hi,ll use their funds for
more shoreline when Regional Park has 2 miles.
b. DNR would be amenable to location other than the park,if
they did not have to fund land acquisition~
Attachment #2
be; perm,jnentr- 01: aaequate aes19Il, afolu 'Lr' pdL~LW;j d.J_CcI. '
cannot be r -ated from the la.unchln7'" ~a by roadvwy.
à. Total of 32 to 37 parking spaces must be provided torneet
DNR· and Metro Councilrequirements. Srune of thése spaces
could be assigned to the restiicted, access on Little
Minne.
2. Reviewed pot~ntial access areas around lake:
a. Existing city acce,ss adjacent to Leach's Resort:
* Developed plan for moving Minnewashta Parkway.
* Not economically viable.
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Residents object to current use and long term use as
access.
* Apparently unwilling sellers.
b. Leach's Resort:
* Development potential of land too valuable fo~long
term use as access.
* Extremely expensive to acqulre.
c. Island at south end of lake north of Hwy. 5:
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Safety problems with car/trailer access off and onto
Hwy. 5.
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Marginal in size and maý require fill on island.
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Environmentally sensitive around island as spawnin<;[.
area.
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Fill required would make turn lanes expensive and
environmentally harmful. Permits for filling would be
difficult to obtain.
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Potentially expensive and difficult to acquire.
d. Existing neighborhood accesses (street extensions) located
in several subdivisions:
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Extremely disruptive to established neighborhoods.
* ,Expensive and difficult to pro,!ide parking.,
e. Lake Minnewashta Regional Park (3 potential areas) :
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Little Minne is environmentally sensitive and should
not be the principal ,public boat entrance to the lake~
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acccss\Vy~out serloU::;ly dlSruptì119(,.· ,'e p-Lanneu U::>t::b ,
of pier, ;) and sVlimming. Also h· at, the II 0nd" of,
the entran~e road, it hinders the<v~~~ational <
flexibility of the park plan.
* The one othél' remaining area, located in the southern
third of t:he, park, TaclY detract from one picnic area,
but would not x:equire any extra road \vork and a
launching ànd parking area còuld be reasonably
designed and permits should be easily obtainable.
Conclusions:
1. An access meeting DNR requirements is ih thé long term best
interest of the City.
2. Resolving the issue at this time maximizes the Cityfs control
of the solution.
3. The 'total amount<of access spaces currently available to the
lake exceeds the minimum numbers required by DNR and Metrû
Councilj but is uncoordinated, creates conflict~ on the west
side of t.he lake, and does not meet the definition of public
access used by those agencies.
4. Access meeting DNR and Metro Council standards can 1;>e obtained
wi thin the boundaries of Lake Minnewashta Regional Park ,.,i th
less impact on the cornmunity than any other location around
the lake.
Recommendations:
He hereby recoIT~end that the City Council endorse the concept of dual
public accesses located within Lake Minnewashta Regione.l Park. W'e ,
believe this concept provides the best long term solution to providing
reasonable public access to Lake Minnewashtawith the least impact to
the communii.-:.y and to the environment ¡and \vith minimal impact on the
Countyts plan for the regional park.
~\'e recommend that the following specific proposals be adopted as the
means of implementing this solution:
1. An additional boat access with no horsepmvcr xestriction ,will
be established in Lake Minnewashta RegionalPark,as shown in
AttachmentA. 'fhis access ,.rill be limited to a maximum of 20
parking spaces. This access should be developed in the spring
of 1985 at which time a permanen-t County. park employee will be
resident at the park.
2. At such time as the new public access is open, the City should
physically close its access adjacent to Leach's Resort. The
City should'make a policy statement that the closing of a
quasi-public ac~ess or private access will not constitute ~
reason or justificatioh to increase public access parking or
cé1pacity. This statement could be included within the City's
Comprehensive Plan as is proposed for No.6.
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a maxir¡mml0 ho~(" 'ower motor size and a ffiÇl{
spaceD Hill be ¡ _ _ ided to serve that acc( "
should bepermitt.ed to rent a limii:ed number
on Little Minnie.
mrn of 15 parking
The County
of canoes for use
4. The County's master plan be tevised to reflect these changes
and the City's conditional use permit be amended to reflect
these changes.
5. Little Minna should be surface zoned as a "Slow - No Wake"
zone.
6. 'l'he City should :establish a firm policy posi tiQn regarding all
public accesses" 'such' as '"the city hereby establishes a. boat
access policy and standard 9f one (I) parking sp(ice for, every ,
20 acres of water' surface ~ such being both a mirilÌnum and '
maximum standard on all City lakes. 11 Fürther, this policy and
standard should be included within the City IS Comprehensive
Plan. as well as '.vithin a land, use ordinance (water surface or
zoning), such requiringa4/5ths vote to-be modified thus
providing reasonable assurancecif continuity.
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August 24, 1983
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Conditional Use Permit Arnendmentfor a Second Boat,Access,
Minnewashta Reqional Park, Public H~aririg,
Public Present
Pat Murphy
Mike Liddicoat
Arnie Red
Carver Còunty
Carver County
Lake Minnewashta Study Committee
Waibel presented the staff report indicating that approximately
one year ago, the ì>1etropolitanCouncil ahd D .N.R. notedopposi-:-
tion to the horsepower restriction on the Minnewashta Regional
Park access fer reasons that it is discriminatory. The City
Council, in recognition that resolution of this matter was
heeded, created the Lake Minne<Ñashta Boat Access Stu'd.y Committee
to research and recommend on how publie,access to Lake
Minnewashta can be best accommodated. He stated that, as far as
Minnewashta Regional P"-rk is concerned, the recommendations of
thecornmittee are found in the following amendment to the con-
ditional use permit.
6.04. Lake Access. A watercraft access to Lake
Minnewashta through the Park has been provided in the area so
designated as boat access on the Detailed Development Plan of the
1982 Park Master Plan Update. Said access is to be limited for
launch of watercraft of ten (lO) horsepower or less and have a
capacity for 10 car/trailer spaces. An additional access without
horsepower restrictions having a capacity for 25 car/trailer
spaces shall be developed and located 'in accordance with the plan
titled "Lake Minnewashta Park 2nd Access" marked Official Copy.
Arnie Hed: I worked with this committee during the past few
months as Chairman. We worked with the D.N.R. and the Metro
Council and they came out and looked at the various options and
facilities. I think we examined every possible alternative on
Minnewashta. It was our objective from the very beginning to
control the density on the lake and also to provide public access
use of the lake but not abUse. In the past, the access bas been
next to Leach's Resort, which is actually a vacated street and
was not authorized by the D.N.R_ so the D.N.R.did not take care
of the lake in the past 12-15 years. The use, as you are probably
aware of, on 15 and Minnewashta Parkway, there are sometimes 40
or more cars and trailers. So this poses a high safety problèm
in Minnewashta Parkway. We looked at some creative ways of
solving the problem, by moving Minnewashta Parkway further west.
We got the cooperation from the city and the County and they
examined that. We had a meeting and perhaps 40 or 50 residents
from around the lake attended. We found that it was initally not
feasible. The most attractive tOJ we felt, the city, the resi-
dents of the lake, the,Cöunty, D.N.R., Metro Council, was to
utilize some of the existing facilities in the regional park.
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Our ~ope there was to keep non-motorized craft in Little Minnie
aay :1nd the motorized craft dovm the shoreline. The location for
the <lccess' is nearly a mile from any residential area.' At the
time the access ·....ould go in, the public access that exists next
to Leach' s 'Ñill be automatically closed and that would eliminate
aoy safety probl'2ms on Minnewashta Parkway. We anticipate that
Leachis Resort, because of economic conditions, will probably not
run more thao 1~3 years at the most. currently, Lea-ch's is
putting in about 30 boats a' day. So if we are lowering the den-
sity on that l.:licè for an excess of the D.N.R. safety standards,
30 boats coming from Leach's and 25 over at the new park. But
'..;hen Leach' s close, there will be no, increase in spaces at the
regional park. ;'¡e feel that in the long run we will be' reducing
the traffic on the lake than what currently e-xists.Minnewàshta
Pa.rk. will· be controlled with an attendant, so there will be much
more policing then what we have had on 15.
:\lbee moved, seconded ~y Noziska to close the public hearing, all
voted in favor and thermotion carried.
~er z ¡noved, seconded
~dopt amendment 6.04
~0110wing addition:
access on the lake."
adopted as the means
by Albee, to recommend that city Council
to the Conditional USe Permit with the
"The Lake Minnewashta Park be the only
and the following specific proposals be
of implementing this solution:
1. An additional boat access with no horsepower restriction will
be established in Lake i>1innewashta Regional Park as shown in
Attachment A. This access should be developed in the spring
of 1985 at ',.¡hich time a permanent County park employee will
be resident,at the park~
2. At such time as the new public access is open, the City
9-hould will physically close its access adjacent to Leach's
Resort. The City should will make a policy statement that
the closing of a quasi-public access or private access will
not constitute a reason or justification to increasae public
access parking or capacity. This gtatement could shall be
included ',.¡ithin theCity's Comprehensive Plan as is proposed
ror :-Jo. 6.
3. The existing public access on Little Minnie will be limited
to a maximum 10 horsepower motor size and a maximum of
parking spaces will be provided to serve that access.
County should be permitted to rent a limited number of
for use on Little Minnie.
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4. The County's master plan be revised to reflect these changes
.:lnd the City's conditional use permit be amended tó reflect
these changes.
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5. Little :>-1inne should be surface zoned as a "Blow ... No Wake"
zon e.
6. The City should establish a firm policy pòsition regarding
all public accesse's, such as, tithe city hereby establishes a
boat access policy and standard of one (1) parking space for
every 20 acres of water surface - such being both a minimum
and maximum standard on'all City lakes.1I Further, this
policyaod standard should be included within the City's
Ccrnprehensi VB Plan as well as \"ithin a land \ise ordinance
(·....ater S\lr face or zoning), such requiring a4/Sths vote to be
modi f led thus providing reasonable assurance of continuity.
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
Com:Jrehensive Land Use Plan l\I1lendmentRequest, Sunnybrook
Develoo~ent Group.
Public Present
B.L. Schlender
~"¡andâ Squi re
Paul Schoenecker
6400 Einerson, Minneapolis
6400 Emerson, Minneapolis
9450 Lakeland Terrace
~"¡aibel summari zed that the request was to change the land use
designation for the southerly most 23.92 acres of TractS, RLS 88
from 'campus business to commercial.
Waibel stated that staff finds approval of the request may be
granted at this time with the anticipation that further land use
plan amendments will be forth coming shortly for the lands
adjoining the subject property as a result of the Zoning and
Subdivision Ordinance revisions. He also stated that the
existence of large undeveloped areas between this property-and
areas of planned or existing development presents a situat'ion
where a wide variety of well planned land uses can be compatably
accommodated.
Albee moved, seconded by Noziska to close the public hearing,. all
voted in favor and the motion carried.
Albee moved, seconded by M. Thompson that the Planning Commission
recommends amending the Comprehensive Land Use Plan from ,campus
business to commercial for the southwesterly 24+ acres of Tract
a, R.L.S. No. 88 as presented in Planning Case 83-2 Land Use Plan
Amdndment. All voted in favor and the motion carried. '
Also the Planning Commission directed staff to make arrangements
for amending the Comprehensive Land Use Plan designation trom
campus business to commercial for the area east of the property
to County Road 17.
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
1(AMENDED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
LAKE MINNEWASHTA REGIONAL PARK
THIS A~REEMENT, made and entered into by and between the City
of Chanhassen, hereinafter referred to as the city, and the Board
of Commissioners of Carver County, hereinafter referred to as the
County;
WITNESSETH, that in the exercise of their powers pursuant to
law, and ,in consideration of the mutual convenants herein con-
tained, the city and County recite and agree as follows:
Section 1.
Recitals.
1.01~ State Law and City Zon..ing Ordinance. It is
acknowledged by the partieS hereto that Under the provisions of
M.S. §398.32, no county parklands or waters may be acquired
within the limits of any city without the approval by resolution
of the governing body of any such city; and it is further
acknowledged that under the provisions of the City zoning ordi-
nance, parks and recreational areas owned and operated by govern-
mental units may be allowed within residential zoning districts
only upon the securing of a conditional use permit from the city.
1.02. County Park proposal. The County proposes the
acquisition and development of a regional park to be located on
the northeast shore of Lake Minnewashta, designating said park as
Lake Minnewashta Regional Park (hereinafter referred to as the
"park"), and has made application to the city for approval of
said acquisition and development and the issuance of a con-
ditional use permit.
1.03. Lake Minnewashta Regional Park Master Plan. Except
as hereinafter modified or otherwise provided, the Lake
Minnewashta Regional Park Master Plan - 1982 Updated - as
approved by the County Board of commissioners on April 13, 1982
forms the basis of this conditional use permit for said County
Regional Park. Said Master Plan and approving County motion are
attached hereto as Exhibits "A" and "B" respectively and incor-
porated herein by reference.
1.04.
to setforth
the City of
conditional
acquisition
General Purpose. The purpose of this agreement is
the terms and conditions governing the approval by
the parkland acquisition and the grant of the within
use permit which are conditions precedent to land
by the County for the park.
Section 2.
Park Areas C and D.
2.01. Master Plan. Whereas the city, the County, and the
Metropolitan Council of the Twin cities have determined that
removal of areas C and D from the Master Plan of the Lake
Minnewashta Regiona_ park, hereinafter referre~20 as the "Master
plan", will not adversely affect the purpose or function of the
park, and whereas the City and the Metropolitan Council of the
Twin cities have approved a change to the adopted Land Use plan
from "Parks/Open Space" to "Residential-Low Density", the parties
hereto acknowledge that land area Parcels C and D are removed
from the boundaries of the park as defined in Exhibit "A".
Section 3.
Schematic Plan.
3.01. Design Capacities. The design capacities as set-
förth on page 26, table 6 of the Master Plan, and the Lake
Minnewashta Park Use Calculations of the Subcommittee for Master
Planning of the Lake Minnewashta Regional Park, dated May 28,
1975, shall constitute the maximum development allowable in said
proposed park.
Section 4.
Development Plans.
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4.01. Review and Approval. Detailed development plans
within the proposed park shall be submitted to the City for review
and comment prior to approval by the County. It is not con-
templated that the City shall have approval authority over the
detailed development plans so long as they are consistent in
scope and capacities with the Master plan, except for appropriate
development standards which may be applied to development
generally within the City. Any development plans not consistent
in scope and capacities with the Master Plan shall require an
amended conditional use permit.
4.02. Development Schedule. The County does not propose
any significant development of the park until funds are available
through the grant program, of the Metropolitan council. Between
1978 and 1982, the development activities at the park are pro-
posed to consist essentially of establishing a land stewardship
program, development of a primitive lake public access facility,
and use of the existing buildings as either a nature center or
museum and park employee residence.
4.03. Land Stewardship Program. The land stewardship
program will consist principally of gradually phasing from culti-
vated land to turf establishment on Parcel E, establishing a tree
nursery, beginning prairie establishment on a portion of Parcel
B, providing necessary access control in terms of gate and
fencing, controlling noxious weeds, and to the extent feasible,
controlling Dutch elm and oak wilt disesase.
Section 5.
Advisory Committee.
5.01. Advisory Committee. The park is intended to fill
the regional recreation needs of the Chaska, Chanhassen, and
victoria area in Carver County (as described in Section 4, Local
and Regional Recreation Needs Analyses of the Master Plan). In
order to provide a means of continuing review during the develop-
ment and operating phases, Carver County shall establish an
Advisory Committee consisting of two representatives from
Chanhassen, one from Chaska, one from Victoria, and one from the
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County Park Commission. The city representation will be
appointed by the respective City Councils on an annual basis.
The Advisory Committee shall review the county's development plan
and make recommendations to the Carver County Park Commission in
regard to such plan. The Advisory Committee shall also monitor
park operations in a general way, and shall make recommendations
to the County Park Commission in regard to improvements in
operating policies. The Advisory Committee members shall also
keep the City Councils of their respective cities informed of
their general activities. They shall also serve as the conduit
of concerns from their respective City Councils to the County.
Section 6.
Governing Ordinance, Policing, Fire Protection and
Access.
6.01. County Park Ordinance. The Park Ordinance of the
County shall regulate the use of the park. The City and the
Advisory Committee shall recommend any appropriate amendments to
the County Park Ordinance or regulatory County Board Resolutions
as the same may be applicable to the park. In addition, all
County proposed park ordinance amendments or regulatory resolu-
tions shall be reviewed by the Advisory Committee for its recom-
mendations and comments prior to enactment.
6.02. Policing. Policing of the park shall be the ,
responsibility of the County through its Sheriff's Department at
no cost to the City. Any supplementary police services furnished
by any future City police department shall be performed only
under the terms and conditions of a mutual aid agreement the City
and the County.
6.03. Fire Protection and Emergency Services. Fire pro-
tection and emergency rescue services necessitated by land-
oriented incidents shall be provided by the Fire Department of
the City. Emergency rescue services necessitated by water-
oriented incidents shall be provided by County lifeguards or the
County Sheriff's Water Patrol.
6.04. Lake Access. A watercraft access to Lake
Minnewashta through the Park has been provided in the area so
designated as boat access on the Detailed Development Plan of the
1982 Park Master Plan Update. Said access is to be limited for
launch of watercraft of ten (10) horsepower or less and have a
capacity of 10 car/trailer spaces. An additional access without
horsepower restrictions having a capacity for 25.car/trailer
spaces shall be developed and located in accordance with the plan
titled "Lake Minnewashta Park 2nd Access" marked Official Copy.
Section 7.
Roads, Water and Sanitary Sewer Services.
7.01. Roads. All roads and trails within the park shall
be constructed and maintained, including snow plowing, by the
County.
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7.02. Water and Sanitary Sewer Services. The County
shall provide water and sanitary sewer systems through on-site
facilities approved by the Minnesota state Board of Health and
such other state regulatory agencies having regulatory power
thereof. When available, said water and sanitary sewer services
shall be connected to the City facilities at the expense of the
County. All connection charges, Metropolitan Waste Control
Comission sewer availability charges (SAC charges), and sewer and
water usage charges shall be paid by the County to the city at
the reasonable and customary then prevailing City rates for com-
parable uses. Except for trunk water and sewer assessments
payable as provided in §8.01 hereof, sewer and water charges will
not be based on a price structure which assumes a 211 dwelling
unit development, but rather will be based on a comparison of
volumes generated by similar residential, commercial or institu-
tional uses. '
7.03. Water and Sanitary Sewer Easements. The County
shall provide, consistent with applicable Metropolitan Council
policies and the grant contract for acquisition of the Lake
Minnewashta Regional Park between the County and Metropolitan
County, at no cost to the city, such linear water and sewer ease-
ments as the City may deem necessary to provide water and sani-
tary sewer services to the park and contiguous areas. Said
easement alignments shall not be so located as to materially
affect the character of the park.
Section 8.
Assessments, Taxes and Costs.
8.01. Outstanding Assessments. By resolution adopted
October 20, 1975, the City levied a total of 211 trunk water and
sewer unit assessments against the properties to be acquired for
the park. It is a condition to the grant of the within con-
ditional use permit that all of said assessments to be paid in
full by the County immediately upon its acquisition of said prop-
erties. Included within said payment shall be accrued interest
computed pursuant to M.S. §429.061.
8.02. Tax Equivalents. In the event the Metropolitan
Council of the Twin Cities fails or declines to pay to the City
tax equivalents under M.S. §473.341, it is agreed that said tax
equivalents shall be paid by the County to the City upon demand.
8.03. City Costs. The County agrees to reimburse the
City promptly upon invoicing therefor, all resonable and custo-
mary costs incurred by the City since the enception of the park
concept through the conditional use permit. Eligible costs shall
consist of publication and notification expenses, attorney fees,
engineering fees, costs in connection with the November 2, 1977
public hearing, and any other reasonable outside direct costs to
the City.
Section 9.
General Provisions.
9.01. Indemnification. The County shall indemnify and
hold the City harmless from liability on account of injury or
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damages to person or property arising out of the operation of the
park facilities. In the event legal action is brought against
the City, either solely or jointly with the County, on account of
any such injury or damage, the County, on notice to it by the
City, shall defend the city in any such action at the expense of
the County. In the event of judgement against the City in any
such action, the County shall pay such judgement and all costs in
connection therewith, and hold the City harmlesS therefrom. The
County does not agree to indemnify, hold harmless, or defend any
action or pay any judgement arising from acts of officials,
employees or agents of the city while in the park.
9.02. Non-Assignment. Neither the within conditional use
permit nor the park contemplated hereunder shall be assigned or
conveyed by the County without the prior written consent of the
City.
9.03. Standards Applicable. The City Council and its
Planning Commission have determined that in the grant of the
within conditional use permit, the standards of the Chanhassen
Zoning Ordinance have been met.
9.04. Execution. Each party warrants and affirms that
the within agreement was duly authorized by its respective
governing body and executed by its duly authorized officers pur-
suant to resolution duly adopted, and each party shall file with
the other party a certified copy of the resolution approving the
execution of the within agreement.
Executed this ~ day of ~~
of Chanhassen.
, 1984, by the City
ATTEST: CITY OF
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Executed th~s day of /.eceJl(fÇI-<;.J
Board of Commissioners of Carver County.
, 1984, by the
ATTEST:
BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS OF
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CERTIFICATION
DOCUMENT NO.
OFFICE OF COUNTY RECORDER
STATE OF MINNESOTA
COUNTY'OF CARVER
This i~ to certifythatthis documentwas
filed in this office on the A).. "!- day of'
I;) 0('. .lq~t{A.D. at~o'clocLfhM.
and was duly recorded in Book ~I
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COUNTY OF CARVER )
I, Karen J. Engelhardt, duly appointed, qualified and acting
Deputy Clerk for the City of Chanhassen, Minnesota, do hereby
certifythåt I have compared the foregoing copy of the amended
Conditional Use Permit for Lake Minnewashta Regional Park
with the original copy, now on file in my office, and have found
the same to be a true and correct copy thereof and as approved by the
City Council.
Witness my hand and official seal at Chanhassen, Minnesota,
this 19th
day of December
, 1584
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YOUR VOICE TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE MtNNESOTÂS lAKES AND RiVERS
MARCHI APRIL, 2001
VOLUME 5, No.2
THE IMPACTS OF MOTORIZED WATERCRAFT ON THE LAKE ENVIRONMENT
Leisurely boating around the lake on a
warm summer afternoon, cruising after
supper to watch the sunset over the lake,
fishing in the qutet of the early morning, or
watchtng the grandchildren's delight in
being pulled around the lake on a water
tube or skits are just a few of the pleasures
that motorboating brings to hundreds of
thousands of people in Minnesota each year.
Yet, as the number of motorized boats
on Minnesota's lakes continues to increase,
questions arise about the potential impacts
these boats have on the lake environment.
These impacts can be on water clarity,
shoreline erosion, plant communities, fish,
wildlife, water quality deterioration, and
human enjoyment (air quality, peace and
quiet. safety and crowding). And, the
Increasing development of lakes and rivers
leads to Increased boat activity, especially in
areas that have not been traditionally used
for recreation.
How might more and more motorized
boats affect our lakes? The rest of this arti-
cle attempts to answer the question through
a summary of findings from the recently
completed study, "The Effects of Motorized
Watercraft on Aquatic Ecosystems" by
Timothy Asplund, Wisconsin Department of
Natural Resources and the University of
Wisconsin Water Chemistry Program. From
this point forward. "boats" will be used to
mean motorized boats including powerboats.
fishing boats, pontoon boats and personal
watercraft.
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Increased numbers of motorized boatsiniMinnesota
According to boat statistics provided by Kim Eiverum. boatingcöordlnator, Minnesota DepartmentofNatural Resources. in the last 20
èJ'~.m!!. ,.'" 28 perr..ent Increase in regJi¡tereò moto¡'boål~,andb()ats are larger In slze.ThEire Is illso aSlgnlfje.ant 1116fêãSèin the
iiiWim&!¡;:ô {i;'atL!rcraFt (PWC).
,BetWeí!ri 1980 and 2000:
· the number of lIIotorboats h!ss than 16 feet decreased by almost 20 pcl'œnl, rrolll 296,969 to 241,986 boats;
thentÙnl>er of 1110Iurho¡¡\s 16 fl~N. to l~ss Ulan 26 n!(!1. im:reas\!<I tJy almosL 125 pl!rCCrU, rrom 145,000 to 323,000 regl~l.l'I'L'{1 hoats;
th(!nullloor ()fmotorboal~ 26 feet and ov\!r Inere.1soo by 63 pm'ccnt, 1'1'0111 4,367 to 7,138;
'. "P\^,TGlncl'èasedby Ilve fold (537%) from 6,298 regi\tered in 1990 tn 33,883 registered UI 2000;
ti . Tt}e total ntunberof ß.!gL~tered rnotorÙ\)¡lls In<:rea~d 28 per-cent, while boats of ¡llIlypl!:; Int1t!ast'¡ 40 wrœnl. In a I.utal ur 812,247 rcgls-
terèdboåtsofall1ypesInMIl1rI~~tn200º./) ,,'..,...",..,)« '.',.,...'. .', ,,'.'
, , " . , " , ,,' SháringSôt'ne of his expêl'lences from 27years wlththeúNR, E1wrum
'-'..,."........,o~.',.~'~.J.;¡~~Æ~:~~~~C'i"i?:~~1fIi... said the Increase In motorboats frolll16 ft~t lo k'$than 26 r(~et comes
'{i mo~tly in thl! ] 6-10-19 rOOI range. The largest gmwlh in Ihls category
Is prohably aluminum outbwlIlIlhhing hoats. as more .mglers trailer
t hell' own crail from lake 10 lake. The numher of 17 -1.0 -l9 foot fibl)r"
gla~ runabouls has IJlso Incmasr.d--both oul.hmlJd ¡mil Inboard-
olll.!>oald drives. nlc rah! of InCII!aSl~ In pl!rsonal Wah!rcrÜIl,n·gislrdt.lons
droppt!ci olf afler Il peakl!d In 1995, while thcæ has ht'lm anlncreasr. In
kayak æglstratlon, both rivel" and M~ IYIJ!!~, OWl' the last. 10 ymn'S.
"MimwS()la's Incf('¡l:ies éI"! nol unltk(! thl\ nal.lollal t"!IId: ~Itd E!verurll.
"Although. surprisingly, f!'Om 1 H80 10 19B9, Mimu!SOIJI'S 31ì pen:ent
overalllTlcJ1!ase In Ixmt n·glst.mt.lOlls was 13 pcrŒnt. b(~low f ht! oVl'rall
national ir K;n!JI~~ in boal n!gistlal.lor IS of 49 pmœnl."
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How can motorized boats affect lakes? (continued from page 1)
Boats Interact with the aquatic
ecosystem-defined as the lake
community of plants and animals and
the physical and chemical environment
In which they extst -by a variety of
mechanisms. These can Include enús-
slons and exhaust, propeller contact,
turbulence from the propulsion system,
waves produced by movement, notse,
and movement Itself. In turn, these
impacting mechanisms may have
multiple effects on the aquatic ecosys-
tem. Sedtment resuspenslon, water
pollution, disturbance of fish and
wlldHfe, destruction of aquattc plants,
and shoreline erosion are the m1\Jor
areas of Impact.
Water clarity
Propellers may disturb the lake
bottom directly, or Indirectly through
the wash or turbulence they produce,
especially tn shallow water. This can
decrease water clarity by increasing the
amount of sediment particles In the
water or may cause nutrients that are
stored in the sedtments, such as phos-
phorus, to become available for algal
growth. Waves created by watercraft
may contribute to shoreline erosion,
which can cloud the water and decrease
water clarity.
Water clarity is important because it
affects the ability of the fish to find
food, the depth at which aquatic plants
can grow, dtssolved oxygen content,
and water temperature. It is also impor-
tant aesthetically to the recreational
enjoyment of the lake and can even
affect property values.
Water qualities
Boat motors can add metals (lead,
cadmium, mercury), nutrients (Phos-
phorus, nitrates) and hydrocarbons
(methane, gasoline, oil-based products)
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to the water colunm. These added
chemicals can affect the pH and
dissolved oxygen of the lake, which In
turn can Influence the type and abun-
dance of fish.
A certain amount of the fuel that
enters Into a motor Is discharged
unburned and ends up In the water.
Two stroke engines, which make up
the vast majority of boat motors, are
particularly Inefficient. On average, 25
to 30 percent of the boat's fuel may
pass Into the water column. Other
concerns Include lowered oxygen levels
due to carbon monoxide Inputs, and
spills or leaks associated with the
transfer of gasoline near the lake.
Plant Communities
Boats Impact plant communities
(macrophytes) either directly, through
contact with the propeller and boat
hull, or Indirectly through turbidity
and wave damage. Propellers chop off
plant shoots and uproot whole plants
In shallow water, and Increased turbid-
Ity from boat activity may Ilmtt the
light available for plants and limit
where plants can grow. Increased waves
may llnût the growth of emergent
spectes, such as cattail, bulrushes and
sedges. Finally, boats may transport
exotic species, such as Eurasian water-
mIIfoll from one lake to another.
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Aquatic plants perform many
important ecosystem functions, includ-
ing habitat for fish, wildlife, and
mtnute Invertebrate animals that are
important to the food chain. Plants
also stabilize the lake-bottom sedi-
ments, protect shorelines by providing
a buffer between the shoreline and
open water, cycle nutrients In the water
to maintain water clarity, and are food
for many organisms.
Shoreline erosion
Boat wakes create waves that can lead
to shoreline erosion, especially In areas
where shoreline vegetation has been
removed or the bank is compacted.
Wave height and other wave charac-
teristics vary with speed, type of water-
craft, engine size, and distance from
shore. Propeller turbulence from boats
operating in near-shore areas may erode
shorelines by destabilizing the bottom.
Shoreline erosion may affect water
clarity In near-shore areas, shading
submerged aquatic plants as well as
providing nutrients for algal growth. It
can Interfere with fish use of shallow
water habitat, as well as wildlife use of
the land-water edge. Excessive shoreline
erosion can negatively affect property
values and can be expensive to prevent.
Fish
Direct contact of
boats or propellers
may be a source of
mortality for certain
fish spectes, such as
carp, and pollution
from exhaust or
spills may be toxic t
some fish. Boàtlng
can also disturb fish
nesting, spawning,
or feeding areas.
Increased water turbidity caused by
boats may interfere with sight-based
feeding, and waves or propeller damage
can affect population levels through
habitat alternation.
Fish are an Important part of the
food web. The presence or absence of
individual species, as well as overall fish
numbers, can be an indicator of ecosys-
tem health. Plus, fisheries are an impor-
tant resource for food and recreation.
Any human activity that affects water
quality and habitat has the potential to
affect fish populations.
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Wildlife
Boats may have direct Impacts on
wildlife through contact with propellers
or the disturbance of nests along the
shoreline by excessive wave action.
Disturbance by the fast movement of
boats, or even the presence of humans
near feeding grounds or breeding areas,
may prevent certain spectes from repro-
ductive success.
Noise or
harassment
may cause
loons and
other wildlife
to vacate nests, leaylng the eggs or
young vulnerable to predators. indirect
effects may Include the destruction of
habitat or food sources In the shallow
areas, or Impatred water quality.
Summary
While the effects of boats on aquatic
systems are complex and depend on a
number of factors, a few general obser-
vations can be made.
First, the physical effects of
propeller, waves, and turbulence appear
to be more of an Issue than engine fuel
discharge. Water clarity, aquatic plant
disturbance, and shoreline eroston are
all serious Issues that can be accelerated
by boat traffic,
Second, most of the Impacts of
boats are felt directly In shallow waters
(less than 10 feet deep) and along the
shoreline of lakes and rivers not
exposed to high winds (less than 1000
feet of open water}.
Third, these effects can have reper-
cussions for other features of the
aquatic ecosystem, Including the fish
and wildlife community and nutrient
~tus. These observations all indicate
that the most Important area of a lake
to protect Is the shallow water, near-
shore habitat known as the littoral
zone. Boats that operate In deep waters
with large surface areas are not likely to
be Impacting the aquatic ecosystem.
There are still a number of
unknowns regarding motorboat
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Impacts on aquatic systems. Most of
the studies m the Wisconsin report
focus on the short-term or acute
impacts of boat activity. It Is still not
clear what role boats can play in the
long-term changes of a water body, I.e.
changes In the plant community, over-
all water quality, or fish and wildlife
use. Many other factors Influence these
same features and may have changed
along with the Increased boat activity.
What can we do?
1. Establish No-Wake Zones.
Given that most Impacts of boats are
exhibited In shallow-water, near-shore
areas, protecting these areas with no-
wake zonès would be the most effective
way of reducing Impacts. No-wake
zones have a dual benefit of both slow-
Ing boats down and directing traffic
elsewhere. Extending a no-wake zone
to 200 or even 300 feet has the most
potential to protect the littoral zone
and help reduce shoreline erosion.
2. Establish Restricted Areas. In
some cases, protection of aquatic
resources may require restricting all
boat activity, not just speed. Boats can
stili disturb plants, sediments, and
wildlife at no-wake speeds. To
adequately protect waterbird feeding
and nesting areas, a "buffer zone" of at
least 300 feet has been suggested, In
which all human activity is restricted.
3. Enforcement and Education.
Many of the environmental problems
associated with boat activity could be
resolved with better enforcement of
extstlng ordinances or regulations and
by promoting awareness among
boaters. Slow-no-wake zones are often
Ignored, or the Impacts of boats are
misunderstood. It Is also Important to
Inform boaters about the Importance of
plants, littoral zones, and natural shore-
lines and how their activities may affect
the aquatic ecosystem.
4. New BQat Technology. An two-
stroke engine manufacturers, Including
traditional outboard motors and PWCs,
must reduce air emissions by 75 percent
by the year 2025. Most manufacturers
have already Introduced cleaner-burning
two-stroke motors for both motorboats
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
AFFIDAVIT OF MAILING NOTICE
STATE OF MINNESOTA)
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COUNTY OF CARVER )
I, Karen J. Engelhardt, being first duly sworn, on oath deposes that she is and was on
January 20, 2005, the duly qualified and acting Deputy Clerk of the City of Chanhassen,
Minnesota; that on said date she caused to be mailed a copy of the attached Notice of Public
Hearing on Proposed CUP Amendment to Boat Access #1 at Lake Minnewashta Regional
Park - Planning Case No. 04-37 to the persons named on attached Exhibit "A", by enclosing a
copy of said notice in an envelope addressed to such owner, and depositing the envelopes
addressed to all such owners in the United States mail with postage fully prepaid thereon; that the
names and addresses of such owners were those appearing as such by the records of the County
Treasurer, Carver County, Minnesota, and by other appropriate records.
Subscribed and sworn to before me
thi~1-\ daYOf~, 2005.
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Notary
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KIM 1. MEUWJSSEN I
Notary Public-Minnesota
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3750 ARBORETUM BLVD C/O JERRY TESCHENDORF
PO BOX 26 14010 CENTER DR W 6621 MINNEWASHTA PKY
CHANHASSEN MN 55317 LAKEWOOD CO 80228 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MARK E AMBROSEN & DOUGLAS B & JAMIE ANDERSON HAZEL P ANDERSON &
ANN C SENN 3607 RED CEDAR POINT RD DARYL D ANDERSON
3830 MAPLE SHORES DR EXCELSIOR MN 55331 2851 WASHTA BAY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
LEE ANDERSON LEE R ANDERSON MICHAEL DEAN ANDERSON
PLEASANT ACRES HOME OWNERS TRUSTEE OF TRUST
6651 MINNEWASHTA PKY 6651 MINNEWASHTA PKY 7140 HAZELTINE BLVD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
CHARLES F & VICKI LANDING MARIANNE I & RICHARD BANDING RICHARD B & MARIANNE F ANDING
TRUSTEES OF TRUST
6601 MINNEWASHTA PKY 3715 SOUTH CEDAR 3715 SOUTH CEDAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
HENRY & DOLORES A ARNESON MARY JO ANDING BANGASSER DOUGLAS J & CAROLYN A
TRUSTEES OF TRUST 8321 VIEW LN BARINSKY
13791 TONBRIDGE CT EDEN PRAIRIE MN 55347 3719 SOUTH CEDAR
BON IT A SPRINGS FL 34135 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DEAN J & JILL R BARTA JOHN P BAUMTROG & EVEL YN Y BEGLEY
3837 RED CEDAR POINT RD ILENE M LEISTER 3701 SOUTH CEDAR
3738 HICKORYHD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331 EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DOUGLAS M & JODI B BERG
3471 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RICHARD A & JUDITH F BERLAND
6900 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MARTIN & JANET L BEUKHOF
3451 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JAMES R & SHERYL A BJORK
3900 LONE CEDAR CIR
CHASKA MN 55318
GREGORY BOHRER
3706 HICKORY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
FRANCES T BORCHART
7331 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
BOYER BUILDING CORP
3435 CO RD 101
MINNETONKA MN 55345
BOYER LK MINNEWASHTA
HOMEOWNER
C/O BOYER BUILDING CORP
3435 CO RD 101
MINNETONKA MN 55345
JAMES & RUTH A BOYLAN
6760 MINNEW ASHT A PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PETER T & DEANNA 0 BRANDT
7570 DOGWOOD RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILLIAM C & JUDITH L BRITT
6460 TANAGERS PT
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
SCOTT A BROIN &
SHARON L PAULSON
3840 LONE CEDAR CIR
CHASKA MN 55318
ROBERT E BRUERS
7054 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RONALD G & LYNN B CONROY
3411 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
GREGORY & JOAN DATTILO
7201 JUNIPER AVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KENNETH C DURR
4830 WESTGATE RD
HOPKINS MN 55345
SUSAN I FIEDLER
3121 DARTMOUTH DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RICHARD E & NANCY J FRIEDMAN
3601 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DIANA GEER
7085 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
GETSCH CORP
C/O JOHN GETSCH
5404 GLENGARRY PKY
EDINA MN 55436
STEPHEN M GUNTHER &
HELEN KATZ-GUNTHER
3628 HICKORY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MICHAEL A SR & TONI L HALLEEN
MICHAEL JR & STEPHANIE HALLEEN
3351 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RODNEY & GINGER B CLARKSON
3894 LONE CEDAR CIR
CHASKA MN 55318
WILLIAM P & MARGARET COLDWELL
3501 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
GETSCH CORP
C/O DANIEL GETSCH
1069 DORLAND RD S
MAPLEWOOD MN 55119
JEROME E COVENY
2921 WASHTA BAY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ALAN H & KAREN L DIRKS
7431 DOGWOOD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
BIRUTA M DUNDURS
3627 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
STEVEN D & JUDY LEMMINGS
6350 GREENBRIAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KEVIN T & MAUREEN S FARRELL
6541 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOHN & JOYCE FOLEY
C/O RICHARD J FOLEY
·4804 DUNBERRY LN
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55435
KENT J& JULIE A FORSS
3850 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ALYCE FULLER
7075 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
SCOTT P & LAURIE A GAUER
3820 LONE CEDAR LN
CHASKA MN 55318
JEAN G GEISLER
3680 LANDINGS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
GETSCH CORP
C/O MARJORIE GETSCH
7530 DOGWOOD RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
C JOANNE GINTHER
3131 DARTMOUTH DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JAMES 0 JR & CHRIST AN GINTHER
3611 IRONWOOD RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT W & MARY M HAGEMAN &
MICHAEL E & JENNIFER GRAVES
7660 CRIMSON BAY RD
CHASKA MN 55318
WAYNE S HAGEN
3421 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ANNALEE MARIE HANSON
TRUSTEE OF TRUST
6400 GREENBRIAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RICHARD A & DARLENE J HANSON
7750 CRIMSON BAY RD
CHASKA MN 55318
STEVEN P & LAURIE A HANSON
225 CAMPBELL DR
HOPKINS MN 55343
KATHRYN B HAWORTH
TRUSTEE OF TRUST
7044 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PATRICIA J HEGMAN
3311 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DANIEL J & KAREN A HERBST
7640 CRIMSON BAY RD
CHASKA MN 55318
ALLEN R & CARRIE A HOFFMAN
3732 HICKORY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT & CAROL HOLZINGER
TRUSTEES OF TRUST
7038 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PER & E LAURIE JACOBSON
2840 TANAGERS LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DANA L JOHNSON
6671 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
TERRANCE M & PAMELA JOHNSON
3898 LONE CEDAR LN
CHASKA MN 55318
L MARTIN & DONNA R JONES
TRUSTEES OF TRUSTS
7321 DOGWOOD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JONATHAN D & KRISTI K HARRIS
3241 DARTMOUTH DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DAVID R BARBARA M HEADLA
6870 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RICKY A & TOMASA HELLING
11983 NORTH 135TH WAY
SCOTTSDALE AZ 85259
CAROL HERGOTT
7098 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KEVIN R & MARY E HOFFMAN
6631 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
BRUCE J & JEANNINE T HUBBARD
2841 WASHTA BAY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
GREGG R & GAY MARIE JANDRO
3896 LONE CEDAR LN
CHASKA MN 55318
JEFFREY L & MICHELLE A JOHNSON
3705 SOUTH CEDAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
THOMAS C & JACQUELINE
JOHNSON
3637 SOUTH CEDAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT M & PATRICIA A JOSEPH
6701 MINNEWASHTAPKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILLIAM R HAUGH
3727 SOUTH CEDAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ARNOLD & CAROL M HED
3860 LONE CEDAR CIR
CHASKA MN 55318
JILL D HEMPEL
3707 SOUTH CEDAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DAVID C & DONNA B HOELKE
3621 IRONWOOD RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
HOLZER TRUST 2003
C/O WAYNE A HOLZER
2911 WASHTA BAY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILLIAM D & DEBRA J HUMPHRIES
3890 LONE CEDAR CIR
CHASKA MN 55318
WAYNE A JESKE
7096 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
LINDA L JOHNSON
3629 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PAUL R & MARY K JOHNSTON
6485 TANAGERS PT
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOSEPH H & GEORGIA G KANDIKO
3870 MAPLE SHORES DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JEFFREY W & TERESA P KERTSON
6810 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MARIA P KNIGHT
LAAG NIEUWKOOP 28
3628 GC KOCKENGEN
JEAN D LARSON
3609 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JAMES F & DOLORES LlPE
3880 LONE CEDAR LN
CHASKA MN 55318
THOMAS R & KAREN C LONDO
3764 LANDINGS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JESSICA BELLE LYMAN
3603 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
STEPHEN C & KAREN A MARTIN
3211 DARTMOUTH DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
THOMAS JOSEPH MERZ
3201 DARTMOUTH DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MINNEWASHTA SHORES INC
C/O PATRICIA CRANE
6341 CYPRESS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
BENNETT J & SHARON M MORGAN
3920 WHITE OAK LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
STEVEN E & MARSHA E KEUSEMAN
3622 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT F & SANDRA K LAPRADE
6470 TANAGERS PT
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILMER & MARILYN LARSON
7380 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DOUGLAS D LIVINGSTON
3331 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
CHRISTINE J LUDTKE
6480 TANAGERS PT
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
THOMAS E LYONS
2931 WASHTA BAY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILLIAM & JEAN M MCDANIEL
3341 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MINNEWASHTA CREEK
HOMEOWNERS
C/O NANCY NARR
3950 LINDEN CIR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PAUL M & MARJORIE A MODELL
3441 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MICHAEL & SUSAN L MORGAN
3734 HICKORY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOANNE T KIMBLE &
MELVIN A KIMBLE
7058 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
FRITZ WILMER LARSON &
MARILYN E LARSON
7380 MINNEWASHTAPKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DONALD D & COLLEEN KLINKE
7301 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DEBORAH S LOCKHART &
DIANE LEESON ANDING
3618 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RICHARD C LUNDELL
7341 DOGWOOD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOHN D & SARAH H MANEY
7078 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOHN B MCKELLlP
21020 RADISSON RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MINNEWASHTAHEIGHTS ASSN
C/O JOHN WARREN, TREAS
6340 ELM TREE AVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JAMES & PATRICIA A MOORE
3630 HICKORY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILLARD E MORTON
7024 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MPLS COUNCIL OF CAMPFIRE
GIRLS
640 GRANT ST E
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55404
TIMOTHY J NELSON &
DANA E COOKE
3724 HICKORY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
CHARLES & JENNIFER NEWELL
7550 DOGWOOD RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
CRAIG D & JANIE S NORBY
7351 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
OLlVEWOOD HOMEOWNERS ASSN
C/O BRIAN FALK
6475 TANAGERS PT
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KRISTEN L ORTLlP
2831 WASHTA BAY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PEMTOM COMPANY
7597 ANAGRAM DR
EDEN PRAIRIE MN 55344
VERNA ARLENE PETERJOHN
3892 LONE CEDAR LN
CHASKA MN 55318
PETER J & KARRI J PLUCINAK
3631 SOUTH CEDAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
QUAI D'ANJOU LLC
4510 WEST LAKERIDGE
DENVER CO 80219
GARY A & KATHLEEN A MUSGJERD
6420 TANAGERS PT
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PAUL V & ALYSSA S NESS
3732 LANDINGS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DONALD M NICHOLSON
2901 WASHTA BAY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
TIMOTHY M & MARY K O'CONNOR
3748 LANDINGS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MARK A & YOMARIE OLSEN
2961 W ASHT A BAY CT
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT C & ANN OSBORNE
3815 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DAVID & SALLY PETERJOHN
3921 HAWTHORNE CIR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
GARY PETERSON
1769 20TH AVE NW
NEW BRIGHTON MN 55112
DAVID & ADELAIDE PRILLAMAN
7064 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JANET M QUIST ETAL
7331 DOGWOOD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILLIAM 0 & STEPHANIE NAEGELE
3301 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
CHARLES & JENNIFER NEWELL
7550 DOGWOOD RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
GREGORY A & ROBIN M NIEMANN
3231 DARTMOUTH DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROGER W OAS
7301 DOGWOOD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROB M & CALI L OLSON
7700 CRIMSON BAY RD
CHASKA MN 55318
JEFFREY J & DEBRA J PAPKE
6180 CARDINAL DR S
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DAVID JOHN PETERJOHN
3921 HAWTHORN CIR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
HERBERT J & PATRICIA L PFEFFER
19225 N CAVE CREEK RD
LOT 103
PHOEN IX AZ 85024
LUMIR CPROSHEK
3613 RED CEDAR POINT RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOAN E RASK
C/O JANET CARLSON
1884 PHALEN PL
MAPLEWOOD MN 55109
RED CEDAR COVE TOWNHOUSE
PO BOX 181
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JAMES P & SUSAN S ROSS
3725 SOUTH CEDAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
EDWIN L & LIVIA SEIM
TRUSTEES OF SEIM FAMILY TRUST
292 CHARLES DR
SAN LUIS OBISPO CA 93401
ALFRED & CARLOTTA F SMITH
3714 HICKORY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
STATE OF MINNESOTA IN TRUST
C/O AUDITOR - DNR WITHHELD
600 4TH ST E
CHASKA MN 55318
PETER B & PAMELA J STROMMEN
3221 DARTMOUTH DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
AARON J & ADRIENNE F THOMPSON
3711 SOUTH CEDAR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
GARY A & JANET K VIERLING
7099 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
CHARL Y A WEBBER
3850 LONE CEDAR CIR
CHASKA MN 55318
ANTHONY C & JODI L WEINZETL
3688 LANDINGS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PATRICIA L RICHARDSON
7095 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT E & JUDY D ROYER
7074 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
COY 0 & SANDRA S SHELBY
7068 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KENNETH R & MARTHA L
SORENSEN
3800 LONE CEDAR CIR
CHASKA MN 55318
WILLIAM J & EILEEN S STERNARD
3664 LANDINGS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DONALD K & CHERL YN SUEKER
3111 DARTMOUTH DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
TROLLS-GLEN HOMEOWNERS ASSN
C/O B F SCHNEIDER, TREASURER
PO BOX 103
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
JAMES L & CONNIE A VOLLlNG
3700 LANDINGS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOHN L & LORI A WEBER
3220 DARTMOUTH DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
BRUCE D & KARLA J WICKSTROM
3716 LANDINGS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
STACEY R & MICHELLE R RICKERT
6440 TANAGERS PT
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JOHN F & MARY C SCHUMACHER
2941 WASHTA BAY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DEAN A & JACQUELINE P SIMPSON
7185 HAZELTINE BLVD
'EXCELSIOR MN 55331
EMIL & PATRICIA SOUBA
14025 VALE CT
EDEN PRAIRIE MN 55344
STRATFORD RIDGE HOMEOWNERS
ASN
C/O KEITH F BEDFORD
3961 STRATFORD RDG
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PAUL GREGORY & MARY S
SUMNERS
7620 CRIMSON BAY RD
CHASKA MN 55318
SCOTT A VERGIN
7311 DOGWOOD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JAMES A & JEAN WAY
6641 MINNEWASHTA PKY
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
CHRIS & KRISTINE WEDES
3716 HICKORY RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT D & JOY D WILSON
TRUSTEES OF WILSON FAM TRUST
7048 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ICHARD & STEPHANIE F WING
Œ1 SHORE DR
XCELSIOR MN 55331
~DAM E & DARCY R WORLEY
;920 HAWTHORNE CIR
:XCELSIOR MN 55331
BARBARA DIANE WINTHEISER
3321 SHORE DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
LANE L & RENEA M WOODLAND
7034 RED CEDAR CV
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
THOMAS E & LORI K WRIGHT
3607 IRONWOOD RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RICHARD L & ANN M ZWEIG
3601 IRONWOOD RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
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ROBERT L ALFORD
6355 M/NNEWASHTA WOODS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RICHARD E & SUSAN K ATWOOD
2701 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RICHARD D BLISS &
GAIL ANN PRATT
6400 MELODY LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
THOMAS F & NANCY ry1 BRUCH
6347 MINNEWASHTA WOODS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PING CHUNG &
ANH TRAN
7000 H/GHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
MICHELLE M CURTIS
2446 64TH ST W
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
LAWRENCE M & ABIGAIL DUMOULIN
6966 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
BRIAN D & TRICIA J FALK
6475 TANAGERS PT
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ANTHONY LEE FREEMAN
6786 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
MICHAEL W & SUSAN L GILBERT
7100 CHES MAR DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
JEFFREY MARK ANDERSON
6840 HAZELTINE BLVD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MARY A BENTLEY
6810 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
DAVID C & STACY L BRAY
2751 SANDPIPER TRL
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
E JEROME CARLSON &
JULIANA MARY CARLSON
6950 GALPIN BLVD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DENNIS M & JOAN E CLARK
6651 HAZELTINE BLVD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DAVID H DAMMAN &
LAUREN LIPPMAN-DAMMAN
6934 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
GERALDINE EIKAAS
2763 CHES MAR FARM RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MICHAEL L & SUSAN FAULK
2791 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
BARRY G & JENNIFER J FRIENDS
2735 CHES MAR FARM RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
BENJAMIN & H GOWEN
6440 HAZELTINE BLVD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MICHAEL DEAN ANDERSON
7140 HAZELTINE BLVD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
PAUL S & SUSAN M BLASKE
6856 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
LEE S & RHONDA L BROADSTON
6918 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
JOHN T & ANNE C CARTER
6390 MELODY LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
ROBERT E & JUDITH B CLARKE
6821 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
JOHN & RENA DRAG SETH
2600 FOREST AVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DANIEL P ENBLOM &
PAMELA M GRIFFITH-ENBLOM
7010 CHES MAR DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
THOMAS E FISHER
6349 MINNEWASHTA WOODS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DAVID E & KATHLEEN K
FULKERSON
6900 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
GERMAINE E GRANT
TRUSTEE OF TRUST
2782 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILLIAM J JR & TERESA A GREER
2771 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DARRELL W & JUDY E HINKLlN
6345 MINNEWASHTA WOODS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DARRELL & LAURICE JOHNSON
2731 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
LEONARD V & MARY ELLEN KUHI
2703 CHES MAR FARM RD
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MICHAEL P & TERRI A MASON
2711 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
THOMAS M & KIMBERLY A
MCREAVY
2751 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
HOWARD G & MICHELLE N NELSON
2445 64TH STW
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MARKJ OLSON
7011 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
RUSSELL J & LYNN F PAULY
2447 64TH ST W
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KEVIN & IVY PETTIS
2742 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILLIAM D & MARY D HAWORTH
6818 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
DAVID G & STACEY R HURRELL
7460 BENT BOW TRL
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
JAMES H & ALICIA M JOHNSON
2762 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KENNETH J & BETTY L LANG
2631 FOREST AVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
MICHAEL J & CANDICE K MCGRAW
2446 HIGHOVER TRL
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
MATTHEW & KRISTINE MEDICK
6800 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
JOHN T & BARBARA N NEVIN
6361 MINNEWASHTA WOODS DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
DAVID C & LISA K OWEN
2444 LAKE LUCY RD
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
KENNETH R & LISA MARIE PEITZ
6811 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
PAUL R & CAROLlNDA PRENEVOST
6351 MINNEWASHTA WOODS
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
RANDOLPH H & KELLY A HERMAN
2792 PIPER RIDGE LN
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
IND SCHOOL DIST 276
261 SCHOOL AVE
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
WILLIAM D & BARBARA L JOHNSON
7060 CH ES MAR DR
EXCELSIOR MN 55331
KATHLEEN E MACK
6984 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
PATRICK J & LISA M MCNULTY
6842 HIGHOVER DR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
February 1, 2005
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Uli Sacchet, Rich Slagle, Kurt Papke, Steve Lillehaug, Dan Keefe, Debra
Larson and Jerry McDonald
STAFF PRESENT: Sharmeen AI-Jaff, Senior Planner; Josh Metzer, Planner I; Lori Haak, Water
Resource Coordinator; and Don Asleson, Natural Resources Technician
OA TH OF OFFICE. Chairman Sacchet administered the Oath of Office to Debra Larson.
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 75-2 TO ELIMINATE
THE HORSEPOWER RESTRICTION AT BOAT ACCESS #1 LOCATED IN LAKE
MINNEW ASHT A REGIONAL PARK. APPLICANT CARVER COUNTY PARKS. PLANNING
CASE #04-37.
Public Present:
Name
Address
James Johnson
Scott A. Smith
Martin Walsh
Kurt Papke
Hud Hollenback
Arnold W. Hed
Karen & Gary Peterson
Judy Berland
B.J. Greer
Dean Barta
2762 Piper Ridge Lane, Excelsior
Carver County PW Engineer
Carver County Park
1131 Homestead Lane
6330 Elm Tree, Excelsior
3860 Lone Cedar Lane, Chaska
3632 Hickory Lane
6900 Minnewashta Parkway
2771 Piper Ridge Lane, Excelsior
3637 Red Cedar Point Road
Commissioner Papke excused himself from the commission due to a personal conflict of interest. Josh
Metzer presented the staff report on this item. Chairman Sacchet asked for clarification to the findings in
the staff report. Marty Walsh with Carver County Parks, speaking on behalf of the applicant stated the
rationale for raising the amount of horsepower allowed for boats being launched at Minnewashta
Regional Park. Commissioner McDonald asked the applicant to elaborate on why the 10 horsepower
limit was established originally and clarification on possible dredging. Commissioner Slagle asked about
signage for the no wake zone. Commissioner Larson questioned closing down Access #2 and the number
of boats using Little Minne boat access. Marty Walsh reviewed the master plan update that was done in
2000 for Lake Minnewashta Regional Park. Chairman Sacchet asked the applicant to elaborate on
enforcement of the current and proposed regulations. The public hearing was opened.
Arne Hed, 3860 Lone Cedar Lane who was the Chairman of the lake study commission at the time this
double access was developed, provided some historical information on the decisions that were made.
Chairman Sacchet clarified Mr. Hed's position that he was not in favor of raising the horsepower limit.
Hud Hollenback, 6330 Elm Tree, who has lived in Minnewashta Heights since 1971 provided additional
Planning COml1Ùssion Summary - February 1, 2005
historical information on Lake Minnewashta Regional Park. His opinion is that bigger motors should not
be allowed in Little Minne. All boats should be launched at the other boat launch on the main lake. Gary
Peterson lives on Hickory Lane on top of the hill on Red Cedar Point. The property he lives on has been
in his family since 1922. He stated this is the only public access onto Lake Minnewashta, and access #1
is too shallow to launch some types of boats. He is in favor of increasing the horsepower and keeping
Little Minne as a no wake zone. James Johnson who lives on Minnewashta Bay stated he would strongly
oppose lifting the boat motor restriction to over 10 horsepower. Dean Barta, 3637 Red Cedar Point Road
stated his fundamental question is, how much more traffic can you allow on a lake that is pretty over
crowded already on any given summer day and concern over the environmental impact to Little Minne.
Kurt Papke, 1131 Homestead Lane in Chanhassen spoke as the current Chair of the Carver County Park
Coml1Ùssion. He elaborated on the issues of enforcement and that there's a set of cascading dependencies
that come out of this decision. He reviewed the master plan that was established for this park. Marty
Walsh reiterated that the Carver County Park COml1Ùssion did study this issue extensively in making their
recommendation. Dean Barta spoke again representing a newly formed Minnewashta Homeowners Lake
Association which consists of a new generation of lake owners and the movement towards making sure
Lake Minnewashta is as clean and as good 20 years from now as it is today. He asked if the launch area
on the big lake could be dredged to make it deeper and used as the primary launch site. Hud Hollenback
spoke again that he did not feel people would obey the no wake zone. B.J. Greer, 2771 Piper Ridge Lane
having spent a lot of time on Little Minne kayaking and canoeing says that the no wake rules have been
breached quite often. He expressed concern with closing that second boat launch and funneling
everything back through that pristine area. He suggested finding a third launch or fixing the first boat
launch. Chairman Sacchet closed the public hearing. After cOml1Ùssion comments, the following motion
was made.
Lillehaug moved, McDonald seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of the
amendment to Conditional Use Permit #75-2, Section 6.04, Lake Access based on the Findings of
Fact with the following condition:
1. Carver County Parks shall contact the Department of Natural Resources before proceeding with
drudging of Little Minne Bay channel.
All voted in favor, except Sacchet and Slagle who opposed, and the motion carried with a vote of 5
to 2. (Kurt Papke did not vote due to a conflict of interest.)
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR WETLAND AL TERA TION PERMIT TO FILL .11 ACRES OF TYPE 3 AND .01
ACRES OF TYPE 2 WETLAND FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENT OF TURN LANES AND
SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION LOCATED AT THE TH 101 AND CSAH 14 (PIONEER TRAIL)
INTERSECTION. APPLICANT CARVER COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS. PLANNING CASE NO.
05-07.
Lori Haak presented the staff report on this item. COml1Ùssioner Slagle asked staff to explain why the
mitigation will not be happening in the city and to clarify banking of wetland credits. COml1Ùssioner
Papke asked for clarification on the grade change to the side slopes or shoulder on the north side of
Pioneer Trail. COml1Ùssioner McDonald asked staff to clarify the statement that this is being done for
safety reasons because of the traffic and volume at that intersection, clarification with the location of this
intersection in relation to the new Highway 212 and future zoning. Scott Smith, Highway Design
Engineer with Carver County stated he was more involved with the application for BWSR and with the
City itself than the actual design which is being done by MnDot and their transportation department.
Chairman Sacchet opened the public hearing. No one spoke and the public hearing was closed. After
cOml1Ùssion discussion, the following motion was made.
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
February 1,2005
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Uli Sacchet, Rich Slagle, Kurt Papke, Steve Lillehaug, Dan Keefe, Debra
Larson and Jerry McDonald
STAFF PRESENT: Sharmeen AI-Jaff, Senior Planner; Josh Metzer, Planner I; Lori Haak, Water
Resource Coordinator; and Don Asleson, Natural Resources Technician
OA TH OF OFFICE. Chairman Sacchet administered the Oath of Office to Debra Larson.
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 75-2 TO ELIMINATE
THE HORSEPOWER RESTRICTION AT BOAT ACCESS #1 LOCATED IN LAKE
MINNEW ASHTA REGIONAL PARK. APPLICANT CARVER COUNTY PARKS. PLANNING
CASE #04-37.
Public Present:
Name
Address
James Johnson
Scott A. Smith
Martin Walsh
Kurt Papke
Hud Hollenback
Arnold W. Hed
Karen & Gary Peterson
Judy Berland
B.J. Greer
Dean Barta
2762 Piper Ridge Lane, Excelsior
Carver County PW Engineer
Carver County Park
1131 Homestead Lane
6330 Elm Tree, Excelsior
3860 Lone Cedar Lane, Chaska
3632 Hickory Lane
6900 Minnewashta Parkway
2771 Piper Ridge Lane, Excelsior
3637 Red Cedar Point Road
Commissioner Papke excused himself from the commission due to a personal conflict of interest.
Josh Metzer presented the staff report on this item.
Sacchet: Why don't we start on this side. Do you have any questions? Jerry.
McDonald: At this time I have no questions.
Sacchet: Dan?
Keefe: No.
Sacchet: No questions?
Larson: No.
Planning Commission Meeting - February 1, 2005
Sacchet: I do have a few questions. Real quick. Now staff report on page 4 states that staff agrees with
slow wake zone surface wake surface zoning since it's considered, no that's not the one. Hang On. It
says that Minne Bay is considered environmentally sensitive. Right? So it's your opinion that by having
the no wake zone that's sufficiently accommodated?
Metzer: Well basically we're basing our opinion off of what the DNR has told us. Speaking with 4
different members, none have any issues. The only one really making any statements other than no
comment, or no issues with it was Daryl Ellison, Fisheries Supervisor. Just stated that there's some
vegetation in little Minne and he also noted that it's good bass habitat but he stated that the no wake
restrictions are sufficient for that.
Sacchet: Are sufficient. Because I looked at the findings and it says while it will not be detrimental or
damaged to safety comfort, general welfare, it will not be hazardous or disturbing to the environment. It
will not result in any destruction or damage of natural, scenic or historic features. It will be aesthetically
compatible, and I was just wondering, I mean if we have this really sensitive environmental piece there,
why would we want to have bigger motors on it?
AI-Jaff: If you have the no wake, that basically will mitigate any or at least lessen environmental impacts.
Sacchet: Lessen, okay. Alright. Any word from our environmental people over there?
Haak: I can certainly speak to that. I guess my comment would be limited to the facts that the planners
have already stated which is really the slow no wake ordinance is going to be quite effective and possibly
even more enforceable in Little Minne Bay. If that's something that let's say, I've seen other lake
associations maybe pay a little bit to Carver County for additional patrols or things like that. If the
County is aware that that is in existence and potentially you know that's just really a communication
bridge that has to be gapped, or to span in order to make sure that the enforcement on that is adequate.
Sacchet: Now help me out. It's already no wake.
Haak: Correct.
Sacchet: Right, so that is not, would not be a new thing.
Haak: Right. The argument presently.
Sacchet: We're trusting that the people with the big motors will respect it too at this point, is what it boils
down to.
Haak: From what I understand, which is really what we're trusting them to do right now is police
themselves with the 10 horsepower limit.
Sacchet: Because we're not really policing the size of the motor in the first place.
Haak: And Carver County can speak a little bit more eloquently to that I believe because they actually
manage that park entrance but it's my understanding that yes, it's difficult if not impossible to police that
10 horsepower limit already.
Sacchet: Okay, thanks Lori.
Haak: Yep.
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Sacchet: Well unless there are any other more questions, which it seems there aren't, I would like to
invite the applicant. Do we have an applicant here? To come forward. If you want to add to what staff
presented.
Marty Walsh: Sure, Mr. Chair. Thank you for the opportunity.
Sacchet: Do you want to state your name.
Marty Walsh: Yes, Marty Walsh with Carver County Parks and again, thank you for the opportunity to
be before you here tonight. The issue with regards to horsepower restrictions at Lake Minnewashta Park
is one of kind of convenience. I shouldn't say convenience but more of a customer service orientation if
you will for the park. Folks when they come to the park area and they have a boat, they are looking for a
place to park. Whether it's a 10 horsepower or more, they just want to park their boat. And they'll park
and that's what they do at anyone of our park accesses until such point as we're full, and then we have
them wait outside the park until we have an available spot for them. But with regards to the horsepower
restriction, one of the flaws of the overall thought about restricting the horsepower limit just to the 10
boat stalls. It says nothing about the other boats that may come through the other access or property
owners that are actually coming into Little Minne from another direction, so while it addresses what
might be going out through the 10 horsepower, which if you take a look at the number of boats on the
lake, that particular access makes probably about 5% or fewer of the boats that might be on the lake at
anyone given time. To concentrate that sort of emphasis on just that access there is probably not the best
way to do it and a no wake zone is much more again enforceable and that applies to everyone that's in
that area, whether they come from inside the park or outside the park boundaries. So from our
perspective it just gets, it's a bit redundant in terms of the enforcement that's needed for there, and frankly
we can't enforce it. It's very difficult for us to do that. Again while we can count the numbers of boats
that go into the site, we have a very difficult time in ascertaining what horsepower somebody has at any
one given moment and once you get past the gatehouse, we don't know which boat access they went to.
So trying to come up with a system to police that is tough, and it's probably very poor in terms of cost
effectiveness and time would be better spent regulating water surface rules rather than trying to enforce a
rule that applies essentially 10 boats that park at anyone time and not looking at the bigger picture if you
will. The other 200 or 300 watercraft that might be in the area. So I guess I'd leave it at that and if
there's more questions.. .
Sacchet: Let's see if we have some questions for you. Any questions for the applicant? Jerry, go ahead.
McDonald: I have a question. W ell let me ask you, what was the original intent of the 10 horsepower?
Was that to keep the wakes down and it was felt that the 10 horsepower would do that? Was that the
purpose of it?
Marty Walsh: Well I think there's some other folks here in the audience here that can probably address
that because I know that they are part of that original committee. What I have on record is what the city
has provided and my understanding of it was to provide what they felt was I think kind of more
environmental sensitive approach to boats going out on the lake there but again, you're looking at the 10,
small as it might be there, and anybody from anywhere else again whether it's the other public boat
access or private property can access Little Minne with a large boat. There's nothing that prevents a
larger boat from accessing Little Minne from another direction.
McDonald: Well I guess the thing I'm trying to get at is, that with the no wake rule, does that in effect
nullify a horsepower as long as you stay with no wake then what difference does it make?
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Marty Walsh: That's essentially what our belief is, is that that is a much more restrictive control because
you could have somebody that has a 10 horsepower motor and be you know a little bit ruthless in how
they're operating their watercraft, so the restriction of the no wake zone I think takes care of that issue.
You could have a very small boat, essentially buzzing the shoreline within whatever, a few feet of the
shore and causing much more environmental damage as to somebody that's essentially putt putting out
until they get to the main body of water.
McDonald: And then kind of a follow-up on that. One of the things that I read in here is that, it may
require dredging of the, what the inlet. What's the purpose of that? Is that to accommodate the higher
horsepower boats or is that just, it will have to be done anyway because of cycles? As I read in here that
there are times when that channel kind of dries up anyway.
Marty Walsh: Yeah, dredging is an issue. I don't know that we would plan for 50 or 100 year lack of
water events, or drought events. That's something that I don't know that we would plan for that. The last
time it was this low I think was around 35 and you may not want watercraft on that body of water when
conditions are like that so I don't know that we'd want to plan for the 50 or 100 year event. Certainly it'd
be a lot of infrastructure for something that would only get used you know periodically or sporadically at
best.
McDonald: Okay. And if it did come down to dredging, is that something that at that point is part of a
license? You'll have to go back to the DNR?
Marty Walsh: That would have your permit activity and my understanding of that is, it begins with at
least a conversation with the DNR but ultimately ends up over the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District.
If it is an operation that's going to go forward, then I think the City of Chanhassen is ultimately needs to
be a part of that particular operation.
McDonald: Okay. That's all the questions I have.
Sacchet: Okay. Any other questions? Go ahead.
Slagle: I was going to wait but I will ask it now. If! can ask, on the boat launches, the two I believe that
are public, is there signage that states the no wake zone?
Marty Walsh: Within the Little Minne area, yes there is signage there but it's avoid area that says no
wake zone. That carries it all the way out to the main body of water.
Slagle: Okay. Okay. That's it.
Larson: I have one.
Sacchet: Debra, go ahead.
Larson: Brief question. Currently there's two launches, and I was reading that eventually the other one
they would like to close that and so then the Little Minne Bay would be the only one. Is that going to
cause more boats, obviously it will cause more boats to use the other one. Would they typically use the
Little Minne Bay one anyhow because of wind and other things that can adversely affect?
Marty Walsh: You bring up a very good point, and the master plan is really kind of a different topic but
we can go down this road here. Here back in 2000 it started with a master plan update for Lake
Minnewashta Regional Park, an~just a little bit how that works is Carver County is an implementing
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agency of the regional park system. Minnewashta if you will is like a state park within the metropolitan
area. We receive funding from the Metropolitan Council for ongoing operations and maintenance and
acquisition and development funds, and the County's role in that is to plan the park area. Here in 2000
we went through that plan and updated the master plan. There was a number of changes that were
brought about for a public process. A number of public meetings. A number of either letters or agency
meetings with the DNR, City of Chanhassen, Metropolitan Council and so forth. Ultimately that plan to
the Metropolitan Council was approved. As part of that plan there is a boat access that would combine
the two facilities maintaining the existing 35 stalls that have been approved as a part of the original CUP.
And a reason why that was looked at is because it is kind of a duplication of facilities and in our master
plan, one of the ways in which we can control or have better monitoring of that new boat launch facility is
to provide a visitor center. Visitor contact station which would overlook that particular facility and
provides us with greater control, whereas right now the problem is once you get past the gate house, we
can't, we don't have that control. There were a number of factors and a great deal of debate about the
merits of combining the boat accesses if you will. One was a duplication of facilities. Why do we have
two? One was why are we bringing all this traffic further into the park? If you don't need to bring all
that traffic into the park, why do that? Another aspect was with regards to the depth of water and the
access at #1. The one that's currently 10 horsepower is deeper. Boats will more frequently use that,
particularly during times of low water conditions. The other access, and I have an aerial photo here if
you'd like. You can pull that up and you'll see the very nature of that and how shallow that is. The other
problem with access #2 is that although we'd like to have a different design there, the access actually
angles out almost parallel to the shoreline, so any sort of expansion or dredging in that kind of way is a
more extensive project. It doesn't really go out at an 90° angle to the shoreline if you will. There is cat
tails and so forth on the one side and then again it's very shallow on that edge of the shoreline. So in
terms of where do we provide boat access into the future, those were a number of things that were
discussed. How do we again minimize some of our infrastructure if you will in terms of boat accesses,
and then ultimately that site is converted to a different use which we have a demand for which is new
campmg.
Larson: Okay, thank you.
Sacchet: Any questions? A few questions. Right now is this actually posted to 10 horsepower?
Marty Walsh: Yes it is. There's a sign at the entrance to the boating facility.
Sacchet: That goes to show how close I look at it. Now you say it can't really be enforced. You haven't
really done anything to enforce it much. I mean it's not draining your resources is it.
Marty Walsh: With regards to enforcement, the sheriffs department comes to the park on a periodic
basis to go through there and that's our enforcement control. We don't have park rangers. And when a
boat is off the trailer it's pretty difficult for the enforcement officer to determine what the horsepower is,
so you literally have to catch them either going in, or coming out to see what the horsepower is for the
boat. Now you can make some assumptions on a trailer that has 2 wheels or tandem wheels, that it's
bigger than 10 horse. But in terms of all practicality, in terms of what we get for law enforcement, their
time is better spent, and this is from a, what I think is public perspective, looking at what's going on in
terms of surface water use where you have folks that are not obeying what they should be in terms of
surface water. Speed. Recklessness. Those sorts of things and other activities that are within the park
rather than monitoring essentially the 10 horsepower limit while there's a no wake zone in place.
Sacchet: So what do you envision can be done to monitor and enforce the no wake? I mean that's out on
the water. If the sheriff drives in the parking lot, he never even sees it.
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Marty Walsh: Right. What continues to be, and we do have is lake patrol. And I would encourage, and
we still work very closely with the sheriffs department to continue to monitor the lake use. We've had I
would say reasonable service from them regarding lake activity so if there's been infringements, I know
that they've been called and dispatched to the park in a hurry and they come flying through our gate and
they're out in the water in a matter of minutes.
Sacchet: Because you see what I'm struggling with is on one hand, I understand it's not really
enforceable. It's more environmental than substantial, but on the other hand it is a gesture that helps
protect that sensitive place. So, and obviously if I'm understanding correctly the rights of a boater, he can
go anywhere on the surface so if they go in on the other side with the biggest boat, they can still go
through Minne Bay. But to force them, that they have to go through there eventually, but that's not the
topic tonight with the boat launch, but the restriction is like a discouraging element, which seems to be in
line with the sensitivity of the Minne Bay. So I'm putting it in that context more than what's not
enforceable. Why we've never really enforced it much but it still, it's a deterrent that is in line with the
sensitivity of the natural environment there. Can you respond to that that type of view a little bit?
Marty Walsh: You know again I would say that what the DNR has commented in terms ofthe no wake
zone provides that protection.
Sacchet: Okay. Yeah, okay. That's a good enough answer. Anything else you want to add?
Marty Walsh: Again ifthere's a need for more comments or questions.
Sacchet: We'll be certainly, welcome you up if you have more questions. Thank you. Now this is a
public hearing. I'd like to invite anybody who would like to address this item to come forward. If you
state your name and address for the record and let us know what you have to say to this item in front of
us.
Arne Hed: Hi Rich. My name is Arne Hed. I live at 3860 Lone Cedar Lane on Lake Minnewashta. And
I've been a resident there 45 years and I was one ofthe, I was the Chairman of the lake study commission
at the time that this double access was developed. Access was developed and it was one of the high
points of my service to the community . We were able to be a win/win/win with, I talked to Mike Markel.
I said you won't believe where I'm going tonight. Mike Markel was the DNR man and we were able to
satisfy the residents of the lake that we didn't have to have, take the money to buy a new access. If you
recall Leach's Resort was closed. It was a vacated alley. We found out that Hennepin County gave the
money to Carver County to establish a park, a regional park. So we were using Hennepin County funds
to build the roads and the lake access. And there's two accesses. One was for the people that are more,
do I dare say sensitive. Idealistic. Have a love for the nature and environment. We were going to protect
the spawning grounds for the bass and pan fish in Little Minnewashta. That was a goal and objective.
We would have canoes, sailboats, kayaks and so forth that could be unloaded there. The speed boats
would go to another place apart from Little Minnewashta, which has worked beautifully and at the time I
was commissioner, head of the commission I got calls from Lotus, Lake Ann, Lake Susan, Lake Riley.
People take their lakes seriously around here. In fact you take a look at Lake Minnewashta and if-you're
familiar with Dakota Indian language, that means clean water and we damn better believe that we're
going to keep that lake clean. I mean that is important to us. We paid a big price to live there. People
are paying a bigger price today, but my wife says it's time we get out. The red squirrels are taking over.
And they have 200 horsepower motors. We had our grandchildren over and my wife immediately called
the Carver County shore patrol to get out and they did ticket our neighbors going 60, 70, 80 miles an hour
around Red Cedar Point. They were ticketed and they will be ticketed again but we should consider
having 10 miles per hour in 100 feet from the shoreline. At least 100 feet. The lake is very, the
topography is so up and down. It's 130 feet deep just north of Red Cedar Point. 65 feet deep in
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Minnewashta Bay. Now as a matter of history, Lake Minnewashta was 3 lakes in the 1930's and for
some of the produce farmers around Chanhassen, it was a life saver because Red Cedar Point went all the
way across to Camp Tanadoona. There was the big lake, little Minnewashta and Washta Bay. Those
were 3 different lakes and you could launch in anyone of those 3 lakes. Later on there were 3 resorts on
the lake, as you probably would know from your history. And again I repeat that it's clean water in
Dakota language. It's clean water is what Minnewashta means. Minnetonka means big water. And of
course you know what Chanhassen means. Sugar maple. And so we're an environmental city and I'm
not, I didn't major in environmental science but my daughter Sonja did and got the largest scholarship
ever given out of the Chaska High School for Environmental Science. Went to Lawrence University. In
fact I would have liked to have her here tonight. She would fight for this community, as most people do.
I was doing a project for Excelsior Chamber of Commerce. I said, where the regional park is now. I said
that belongs to Excelsior as a trading area. I said ifthat's built correctly with a good developer, you'd
probably have 2,000 to 3,000 people living in that area. To a person they all said, with every generation
they said this is Excelsior. You're not going to force all these people into our community. They said we
can live without that extra business. This was their Chamber of Commerce. And we've got to have the
same loyalty to our community in Chanhassen as they have to the Excelsior and Lake Minnetonka area.
And if you want to rattle some questions at me, I'll shoot back at you. And I also spent 30 years as a
consultant. . .
Sacchet: What, let's try to focus exactly in terms of the issue in front of us. Is this horsepower restriction
with the access to Minne Bay. That's really the issue right now.
Arne Hed: My position on that is that, like they've got snowmobiles and for some people they're a real
headache. You've got these Skidoo's. Seadoo's. If you control the horsepower, you control the size of
the motor. I mean the, I'm sorry. Control the speed if you take the major part ofWashta Bay and the big
lake and you say the speed limit is 45 miles per hour, then who needs a 200 horsepower motor? Merz
over at Minnewashta Heights came to me when I was Chairman. He said that he was a lake property
owner. He paid bigger taxes than anybody else. He should be allowed to have any motor of any size as
he wants. He says you can control the size of the motors for the people coming in to the park, but not me.
He says I've got a cigar boat and I want to go. I said, 200 horsepower you've got on that speed boat, I
said you can go from Highway 7 to Highway 5 in less than 2 minutes. I mean it's insane. I should add
this. Merz's brother, they're the Merz Construction Company. They're in our neighborhood and he took
it upon himself to go out and put in a waterski course, right out in front of our picture windows and I said
what is that? What are all those buoys doing out there? He said that's a waterski course. So I was right
down here and I said, waterskiing is fine. Our whole family waterskis and I'd encourage anyone that
wants to waterski, go ahead and waterski. It's not that popular a sport anymore, but at that time it was
and I said, if we have a 4th of July celebration in Chanhassen, you get a 72 hour permit. I'm not against
that. You get a 72 hour permit and put in your course and take it out again. That's the last we saw of the
course.
Sacchet: So do I take it that you are in favor of restricting speed limits?
Arne Hed: Oh yes. And that is within the law. I talked to Mike Markel who is the DNR man and we had
a long conversation this afternoon.
Sacchet: And in terms of Minne Bay and that particular issue in front of us, does that translate that you
would see a purpose in restriction of the motor size or not?
Arne Hed: Well if you restrict the motor size, then if you're going to reduce the speed essentially.
Sacchet: So you see it hand in hand.
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Arne Red: Yeah, they go hand in hand.
Sacchet: Excellent. Well appreciate all your feedback and context. It's wonderful to get the insight into
the history and I want to thank you for that.
McDonald: Mr. Chairman?
Sacchet: Do you have a question for him? Yes, go ahead Jerry.
McDonald: Can I ask you a question? Okay, I understand a correlation between horsepower and speed,
but what's the correlation between horsepower and no wake zone? Doesn't the same effect happen?
Arne Red: No, you've got a speed limit in the no wake zone. Currently it's for snowmobiles as I
understand is 10 miles per hour. In lakes in the Carver County it's 45 miles per hour on the big part of
the lake. If there is no wake zone, but if you're within a certain distance to the property owner's
shoreline, you cannot go more than 10 miles an hour. And I'll say that our neighbors, and their kids,
they're teenagers. And I might say that you can relay it to the Carver County Police that they can raid
that house any time they want to and they'll probably find drugs. They've egged our house. I mean
they're in detention half the time and they're in alternative schools and when they came in and our grand
children were diving off our raft, they came in at 60 miles an hour into their dock. I mean they, reckless.
They did get tickets because we can get very irate as a family if we see the abuse. Rich will go along with
that.
McDonald: It sounds as though the current systems that are in place work.
Arne Red: Yes, if you compare it to snowmobiling. The high power boats in the summer, beautiful day
and a few drinks or drugs and you've got people that are out of control. And if the water patrol, and Rich
Slagle's buddy from college ran the resort on Lake Minnewashta for several years. Our son Allen and in
fact they're going to have a bass contest out on Rice's Resort on Lake Minnewashta because it's known
as a good bass lake, as is Waconia. And if they're interested in having a bass fishing contest and you lose
that...I guess you can't do it at this particular time but at that time they could. There's some giant bass in
that lake.
McDonald: Okay, well where I'm still confused is, are you in favor of if we go with the no wake zone.
Allow larger horsepower motors to go on Little Minne Bay, does that accomplish what is in place or are
you not in favor of increasing the horsepower?
Arne Red: Personally I'm not in favor of increasing the horsepower. I can get along nicely with 65-85
horsepower. There's no big problem there. But the 200 horsepower, 300 horsepower, cigar boats. And if
you take a look, and I was talking to Mike Markel with the DNR this afternoon. Re said that the DNR's
got reconstruction jobs on Minnetonka boat launches because they're coming in with their semi's and
they're backing in with their yachfs on top ofthese semi's. And the tonnage, it just breaks down the
access. And we don't want that. There's a certain element that loves the lifestyle of Lake Minnetonka.
There's another lifestyle that's Minnewashta and it's a rather placid, peaceful.
McDonald: Okay, well then what your concern is, is someone bringing in these larger boats which is a
weight problem coming in and tearing up the.
Arne Red: Oh no, it's the environment. Again Minnewashta means clean water. If you break up the
bottom of the lake with the big motors and you're racing and they're doing all of the tricks that they're
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doing on the lake with big motors, you're going to lose that water. In fact the Minneapolis paper had the
Minnewashta as one ofthe most fishable lakes in the Twin Cities area, and it's the cleanest lake,
according to the DNR between the Iowa border and Grand Rapids. I always thought it was Christmas
Lake, but this particular article in the Sports section said Minnewashta was the cleanest lake, and if we
don't keep it clean, if we don't, if we let go of the barriers that we put in place, it's going to get worst.
You find when the ice goes out in the spring there will be the beer bottles and whiskey bottles and broken
glass and so forth coming in. We've done it for 44 years, cleaning the beach and so forth and picking this
stuff up. People that have abused, not only fish houses and snowmobiles. They're as guilty too. There's
bad people in all these areas.
Sacchet: Well appreciate all your input. Thank you very much for speaking up. Yes, next. Want to give
us your name and address for the record please.
Yeah.
Sacchet: And you can move the microphone in front of you. There you go.
Hud Hollenback: I live in Minnewashta Heights. I'm going to ramble for just a couple minutes and then
if you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer them. Our family moved up here in 1971 from Texas
and we were fortunate enough to land, end up in Minnewashta Heights. And of course we all fell in love
with the lake. It was a little different in those days but I bought an 8 foot boat with a 6 horsepower motor,
and I lived on the lake. I think I probably know the lake better than anybody here. For years I lived on
the lake. Days. Nights. Whenever. I knew most bass by name. I knew where they lived. Caught the
same ones over and over and over again. One day I think, I forget just when it was. Like '74-75.
Clifford French came over and spoke to the Chan council I guess, and anyway I was there. And he had
heard that the Ches Mar Farm was going to go up for sale. And he was making a pitch to Chan that this
has to be a park. He said, Hennepin County would like to make a park. We are ready to buy the land and
make a park. Well that scared the daylights out of me. I went back and we talked in the neighborhood.
Nobody wanted a park. Nobody. In fact I applied, and ended up sitting on the commission in order to
fight the park. The more I studied and the more meetings we had, which were twmendous number. All
the time. We were meeting in meetings, when I wasn't fishing I was meeting. I began to feel heck,
maybe this would be a park. It'd be a lot better than looking across the lake and seeing townhouses and
the shoreline completely changed. So it wasn't too long before I was promoting a park. But we, when we
started talking as a commission, we got to negotiate with these folks. We didn't want this. This would be
okay. We didn't want that. This would be alright. Little Minne was abig part ofthe discussion because
it is pristine. It is unique. Not another body of water, anything like it around here. So we were very hard
on what we were going to allow in Little Minne. My mouth is drying up. That's why there were no
motors, nothing but canoes, kayaks, whatever allowed. And everybody was happy. Then in, I think it
was what, , 84. Whenever. It was decided to put motors in there and to put the boats at the other dock.
Landing. So it's evolving. All I want to say is there's no way that we should allow bigger motors in
Little Minne. What we should do is eliminate all boats landing in Little Minne. Move them over to
where the rest of them are. Then there won't be any problem in policing. There won't be any problem in
tearing up the water. It would solve all the problems of you know having two places. It would just solve
the problems. It'd probably return to the same state it used to be. So that's where I'm coming from. Any
questions?
Sacchet: Thank you very much? Do we have questions? I think you expressed yourself very clearly.
Larson: Actually I do. When I was reading the report, towards the end of the report they mentioned that
boats are designed quite differently now than they were when the original plan allowed to have motor
boats put in there and that they're made much more environmentally sensitive or, they don't seem to tear
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up the lakes as badly as maybe some of the older style boats, based on how the bottoms are made. How
the engines are designed. And so would you still have an issue with this if in fact, you know even though
the boat motor sizes are going to be bigger, or allowed larger, the impact of these newer boats isn't going
to be like it was with some of the older style boats.
Hud Hollenback: Well that's quite possible. I just see if we close number 2 and move everything
eventually, I know it's a.. .discussion now but move everything over to Little Minne, to land in, to launch
and land 35 boats at a time, and that given space. It doesn't matter how the boats are made or the motor's
made. It's, there's not going to be a place to even stack them. I mean it's, I can imagine at the end of the
day 10 or 15 boats waiting to be pulled out in Little Minne. We're going to be side by side. It's just, it's
not practical. And it would just destroy the nicest part of the lake.
Sacchet: Thank you for making such a clear statement.
Hud Hollenback: Alright.
Sacchet: Yes, anybody else want to come forward? This is your turn. State your name and address for
the record and let us know what you have to say.
Gary Petersbn: Gary Peterson up on Hickory Road on 36, on top of the hill on Red Cedar Point. And I
guess our place has been in the family since 1922 so I guess 1.. .but basically this is really the only place
left on the lake where people can put in things like pontoon boats, things like that because it's the only
access to the lake that has reasonable backing capacity. You mentioned the thing that the other landing is
totally not perpendicular to the shoreline. I attempted to put in a couple boats there. Last year could not
even get them in there, and I'm not talking huge boats like discussed. Actually the boats today by the
way that you're talking about that these people are putting in today are in the ballpark of 345 to 455
horsepower. They're not 200 horsepower motors anymore. That does not affect the fact that this is really
the only place that exists on the lake where people that live on the lake can put in their boats. We're not
talking about putting in 35 boats at a time. We don't show up there on a Sunday afternoon to put this boat
in or a Sunday morning. We sneak in there on a Tuesday afternoon when nobody else is there, just
because we don't like to stand in line or sit in line with all those types of things that go along, but the
horsepower does not really any affect to what we've got there. It's just really the only place we can go to
drop a boat down, back it in. My pontoon boat, I'm not trying to put a wake out behind my pontoon boat
but it still has enough power to push that thing through that operations out there. Now the environmental
portion of this thing, this is basically a mud hole back there. Rest of the lake is pretty much sand bottom,
and this is very soft shore. We're talking about just basically, you know when I was a kid, we didn't, we
did not fish crappies back there because you couldn't eat them. They were too muddy. They tasted too
bad. So that's the kind of environment we're dealing with. When boats do come through there, they
move the.. . around but at the time when the boat, park was actually open, it was all full of seaweed and
things like that and a lot of lily pads. They're no longer there today just because of any boat that's going
through there has wiped those out. I think that taking a no wake zone is really the way to operate that
thing so people can use the thing for the lake and you know, we're talking, we're not talking even 10
miles an hour. I'd guess probably with the no wake zone, coming out of there well below 5 miles an
hour. Something like that. If you're going to go 10 miles an hour, you're going to get at wake. 10
horsepower motor can put a wake up depending on the boat that you're talking about. The fact that
people get out, away from the shore. Go down the middle of the operation. It's a very calm area. And
there's still lots of lily pads when you go out and head out into the back end of the thing but you know, I
really don't say that I think that horsepower's really the issue. I think the horsepower thing's got to go I
mean. Most the people on the lake have no way to get their boats out if they you know follow by that law
that sat there. It was the only place you could even get in there with a pontoon boat trailer at the end of
the year.
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Keefe: Is it your opinion that people follow the no wake zone when they're back in there? Yeah. And
you as a resident.
Gary Peterson: I've been going in there since 1965. Probably something like that.
Keefe: As a resident of the lake, do you ever go back into Minne Bay when you're just out boating? And
let me follow-up with that saying, do you have a larger motor than 10 horsepower and do you drive back
in it, to Minne Bay? Occasionally.
Gary Peterson: Yeah, I don't think, I don't have a motor less, that's that small.
Keefe: Yeah, so I mean if somebody answers yeah. You've driven back in there and so you're one of the
people who drive back in there as well and.
Gary Peterson: And I mean even ajet ski today is in the ballpark of 130-40 horsepower. You know, our
pontoon boat is 35 horsepower. And we go back there and fish for sunfish typically. I don't think there's
a lot of bass fishing back there today. I mean you can catch 10 bass off our dock. I don't know why
you'd go out across the lake to go look for 10 bass over there.
Sacchet: Alright. Thank you very much. Anybody else wants to address this item? Please come
forward. State your name and address and let us know where you stand with this.
James Johnson: My name is James Johnson. I live on Minnewashta Bay actually. I can see the dock
from my deck when I'm outside. I would strongly oppose lifting the boat motor restriction to over 10
horsepower because I do see people not abide by the wake zone. No wake zone. And I do see people
launch boats from there that are much larger than 10 horsepower. So my fear of restricting or lifting the
ban would mean that there are more people coming into that area with larger motors and not abiding by
the 10 miles per hour, or the no wake zone. So I would certainly oppose lifting the ban.
Sacchet: Okay. Thank you for expressing yourself. Anybody else wants to address this item. This is
your turn. Please state your name and address.
Dean Barta: My name is Dean Barta. I live at 3837 Red Cedar Point Road. I also live on Lake
Minnewashta and I don't know, I've got a couple questions and then a comment. I know 2-3, maybe it
was 3-4 years ago there was some discussion about dropping that restriction, and I'm sorry I'm late so
maybe I missed that discussion but at that time the discussion was to get rid of the 10 horsepower
restriction but in kind of a trade for that they were going to put a 10 horsepower restriction or close the
other ramp that's on the big lake. That was part ofthe discussion. And when I saw this come up, that
they were looking at or there was discussion again of the 10 horsepower restriction, there was no
discussion of the other ramp. Having a power boat or a speed boat, a ski boat on Lake Minnewashta, I
understand there's a lot of people that don't like to use the ramp that's on the main part of the lake
because it's very shallow and I've talked to a lot of people that live there, I know a lot of guys that live
there and stuff and people that bring their boats in for the day who have ruined props and, it's a very
shallow landing. Right, and I understand that. I think my concern is when I, or the question I have is, has
anybody looked at the impact if we take, if we get rid of the restriction of the back landing, the one that's
in question. How many more larger boats is that going to bring into a lake that's pretty crowded already
on a given summer day? Because now you'd be opening up how many more parking spaces to larger
boats. And what I've noticed on the lake, it's not you know the fishing boats nowadays aren't the 10
horsepower. You know it's the 150 horse, 21 foot Lund's and it's the big wake boats and things like that
and so, you know fundamentally, how much more traffic can you allow on a lake that is pretty over
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crowded already on any given summer day. The other thing is, is that I go back there a lot and I do take
my son back there. We catch a lot of sunfish and bass back in there. It's a beautiful area back in there
and full of lily pads in the spring and in the summer, and I question also the environmental impact or
what's going to happen to, you know there's a lot of nesting birds back there. There's a lot ofthings that
you start putting big boats up and down that channel and I know most people would abide by the wakes
but just the fact of having a bigger boat throws of a lot bigger wake. Right? That's just a fundamental
something, that happens. So I would just ask that we suggest that we take a look at what's another
alternative. If that other ramp isn't, a lot of people with bigger boats don't like to use that, why don't we
make that a horsepower restricted ramp then. At least start to limit the number of potential parking spots
for larger boats on the lake. So comments, suggestions. That's my opinion.
Sacchet: Thank you very much sir. Who else would like to address this item?
Kurt Papke: Good evening. A little odd to be on this side of the microphone. My name is Kurt Papke
and I live at 1131 Homestead Lane in Chanhassen. And 1'm the sitting Chair of the Carver County Park
Commission, as well as being a Planning Commission member, but you have to ignore that for the
moment. I just wanted to comment on a couple things that were touched on tonight but I don't think were
fully explored. One of them's the enforcement of which boats get to go in and use the two different boat
launches. Imagine yourself, you're a 16 year old Chaska High School student who's working for
minimum wage in the gate house and you're counting boats coming in and boats going out, and you're
not too sure how many of which are in which landing and now somebody comes in with a car full of kids
and they want to take their kids skiing and now they have to drive down this long gravel road to get to the
boat launch, and you let them in. Okay. So you can see the dilemma. It's not easy for a 16 year old high
school student to do that control situation. They have no visibility at all of the boat launch. They're
dealing with people with a car full of kids who want to go skiing and they're going to go where they will.
Another aspect of that in terms of the enforcement possibilities, you mayor may not be aware that a little
over a month ago the Carver County Board voted as a part of their latest budget to cut funding for
lifeguards at Lake Minnewashta Beach. Okay. So we don't even have the funds right now to put
lifeguards on the beach, so to provide additional services for enforcement here would be a bit of a stretch.
Okay. The last point, and this one you have to be careful how you cope with it because you can't always,
you can't make decisions on the basis of consequences. But one of the issues we have here, there's a set
of cascading dependencies that come out of this decision. Okay. If you deny this request we now, we
cannot consolidate the two boat ramps and if we cannot consolidate the two boat ramps, we can now
cannot re-use the space that's currently allocated to boat launch #2 for the, how many Girl Scouts do we
have come and camp every summer? Over 500 kids that we would like to provide as part of the master
plan more space for those 500 kids. So just be aware that you know there's a set of consequences of your
decisions tonight. Now you can't, you're making an environmental decision. You can't make your
decision on the basis solely of well, you know those are the consequences and too bad. But you just
should be aware and conscience of that when you make that decision that there's things, other things will
not happen as a result and I just wanted to make sure you were aware of that. And that's all I had. Any
questions for me?
Keefe: Can you clarify a little bit on the dependency again, or just re-state that. If we are, if we remove
the restriction, then that would allow consolidation. If we leave the restriction in place.
Kurt Papke: You cannot consolidate. You must leave boat launch #2 open then to accommodate the
existing large horsepower boats that are being launched there.
Keefe: Okay.
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Kurt Papke: Okay. And so then you don't have the plan for re-use. Now this was all, there was an entire
master plan that was worked out with public hearings, just like this 2 years ago to approve that master
plan. And we have an interesting dilemma here where the City of Chanhassen and the Planning
Commission is kind of holding that whole master plan hostage as a result of this one decision which, you
know that has to happen. You have to do the right thing for the environment and for the City of
Chanhassen but you just...
Keefe: Let me ask you this. If the restriction is removed, does the County need to come back to the City
to consolidate the ramps?
Marty Walsh: Mr. Chair, members. As a matter of fact they would in tenns of a building permit or
construction permit for the park area, we would have to come back for approval on that.
Keefe: But that's just to construct the expansion of the ramp.
Marty Walsh: That's correct. During that process there'd be a number of reviews and contacts here with
the City of Chanhassen along with the DNR with regards to the suitability and so forth of that site for that,
but we've gone through that at least preliminarily at this point with the DNR and again staff people and
other agency folks and again at this point everybody feels with regards to agency staff and the Carver
County Park Commission that this is a workable plan. I would like to just make one comment, and I
know we have some members here that have been in the audience, or have been on the lake for a number
of years. In terms of kind of the greatest threat in terms of change to the lake, I don't believe that is the
park because we are limited to the 35 stalls that we have at this point with a conditional use permit. What
has changed over time is horsepower size, and that will continue to probably change on the lake with a
great deal of frequency with regards to new homeowners either moving in or people upgrading their
present boat for a larger boat. Also there will be still new lots that will be added to this lake. Since the
1974, I hesitate to guess but I know that it's probably closer to 100 or more homes that have been located
on the lake so the biggest change to the lake with regards to the horsepower, I will be just in the nature of
things. People upgrading. Replacing their boats, and a few new lots being constructed on the lake.
Keefe: So conditional use permit limits you to 35 parking stalls between the two, right? And if you were
to consolidate you would still be limited to 35 parking stalls at the single entrance?
Marty Walsh: That's correct.
Audience: And there is 20 acres.
Sacchet: Jerry.
McDonald: I've got a question. Are these the only, is this the only public access on this lake?
Marty W alsh: Yes, it is the only public access.
McDonald: Okay.
Slagle: Just so I'm clear, is there a speed limit on the lake?
Marty Walsh: I would defer that to the City of Chanhassen. To my knowledge, Carver County does not
regulate the surface use of water bodies but I'll defer that question.
Sacchet: Does staff know the answer?
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Lillehaug: It's 50 miles an hour.
Haak: Yes there is. It's actually I believe it's 40 sunrise to sunset. 40 or 45 and I think it's, and I'm
speculating but I know they exist on all city lakes. Probably 15 sunset to sunrise is my guess, and again I
may run over to the code and double check that but.
Sacchet: Go ahead Rich.
Slagle: Weight restrictions. We talked about that. The 100, is it 100 yards? 100 feet?
Marty Walsh: I'll have to look at the exact what it is but I want to say it's 100 to 200 feet and I think the
City of Chanhassen has that ordinance.
Haak: It'd be in the same ordinance.
Slagle: And Lori as you're looking my question is, does that apply around the entire lake?
Haak: Yes.
Slagle: Fairly, is there a sign on the outer entrance, if you were on the lake and wanted to go into Little
Minne, is there a sign that says no horsepower's above 10 allowed in this bay?
Marty Walsh: No, there is no signage of that nature.
Sacchet: That's not possible on the state statute. I think that the water is accessible anywhere by
anybody, isn't that the state?
Marty Walsh: It's public property underneath the water level itself. I don't know that I can address your
question directly but to the fact that it is public property underneath the surface water and it's managed by
the Department of Natural Resources.
Slagle: But let's keep in mind though that there are bodies of water in our city that we limit motors. I
know in our lake cabin up north there's an area of the lake that no go. It's trolling motors or canoes or
what not so what I'm saying is that I don't think that's 100% correct in the sense that you could I believe
make this bay a non-motorized or under 10 limit. I don't know that for sure but I think so. So with all
that said, here's my question to you. Is there another location other than 1 and 2 for the launch because
you're, we've heard that launch 2 is shallow. Gentleman mentioned it's hard to get pontoons but yet we
are picking what I estimate to be probably the most sensitive area of the lake to have the boat launch.
Would there be a third alternative when you go to consolidate that would make more sense than Little
Minne?
Marty Walsh: Again we did look at that sort of an option with regards to when we went through the
master plan. And with the idea that you can do anything. You can put the boat access someplace, but not
without causing more damage than what there is right now. In terms of environmental impacts.
Slagle: Damage on the water or on the land?
Marty Walsh: Both. Most of the area that is encompassed by the park is surrounded by cattail, wetland
type vegetation and for us to disturb another area, which was something that we looked at and the overall
master plan placed a great deal of emphasis, in fact the over riding principle on that was the environment.
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In fact to the extent that we could, we removed or will remove certain infrastructure pieces from that.
From the park as it continues to develop. So we don't see the park becoming I guess more heavily
developed than what it is.
Slagle: Okay, let me throw this out and I have to be honest with you, during the course of this I've just
been going back and forth but I've been there. I've been on the big lake and personal opinion but I want
you to respond to it is, I think that bay is probably as close to quote unquote, Northern Minnesota feel as
you get and when you go out into the big area where the #2 launch is, I mean that's sort of like big lake.
Lots of boats. And I guess I'mjust surprised in the entire peninsula that goes to the north, I mean even
going down towards the public beach where you've got roads, parking lots, buildings, that that would be
the best spot to consolidate two launches. That's all I guess I'm struggling with is I'm not sure of that
but, can you respond to that?
Marty Walsh: Again I would state that we did take a look very closely at the boat launch issue and there
are with anything that we were doing in the park, pros and cons to it but when we, at the end of the day
weighed a safe boat access out of the wind, a deeper water access, the ability for people to access the lake
and launch their watercraft, at the end of the day that balancing act said boat access #1 is where it should
go.
Sacchet: Dan, go ahead.
Keefe: I have one more question. Just in regards to, and this may be a DNR question. I don't know,
maybe...in regards to any spawning that goes on on that lake. Does that bay support spawning grounds
or do we know or?
Metzer: Daryl Ellison the Area Supervisor for Fisheries, he did also mention which it did not at the end
ofthe report though he said it's good as bass habitat. That's all he said. It's good bass habitat.
Keefe: He didn't say anything about particularly spawning,
Metzer: Those were his exact words.
Arne Hed: He said that, DNR told me the.. .he' s the head of Fisheries. We could invite him out to your
next meeting. Mike Markel, who was the DNR man at the time I worked with him, he said that it's really
up to the City and the County to establish the weight and the speed limits and things that would control
population of boat, people's behavior on the lake. That the DNR has dropped out of it. It's no longer
interested in surface waters of any lakes, except out state. Their position there changed.
Sacchet: Alright. The public hearing is still open. Did you want to add anything else at this point?
Marty Walsh: Again I guess again we at the park commission for Carver County has taken a look at this
quite extensively and really feel that this is a non-discriminating policy, the no wake zone does protect the
environment there. And in terms of long term operation for a park area and servicing the customer, we
believe this is. . .
Sacchet: Thank you. Anybody else want to address this issue before we close the public hearing? Yes, I
still see some hands there.
Dean Barta: Couple thoughts and comments again. First of all, I represent kind of a newly formed,
there's probably 20 or 30 of us now of a Minnewashta Homeowners Lake Association right. A lot of
people, we've gotten together every year and we worked with the DNR and tried to control some of the
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milfoi1 out on the lake and there's something happening on Lake Minnewashta where the lake is what I'll
call turning a little bit. Right. A lot of the first generation, second generation people that grew up on the
lake are retiring or selling. A lot of younger people coming on and re-doing homes. And there's a real
movement towards making sure that that lake is as clean and as good 20 years from now as it is today.
Right. And I would suggest that maybe there is some other alternatives here, right. I would agree with
you that the north side of the lake is pristine and that's just a beautiful park that you go through there and
if, one thing that I heard tonight, if there's only going to be 35 parking spots, or the most the boats
coming in is 35 either way, that's a great thing. But maybe we could tap into some of the resources from
the homeowners lake association right and is there a possibility on the, I think it's called lift 1 which is
the lift on the big lake, the shallow lift, right. Can that be dredged? Right. Can we make that just deeper
right in the lift area because it's just, it's just in that small area where people put the boats in and that just
needs to be made a little deeper, right. And then we could completely shut down the second one back in
the pristine area and make that a complete no wake zone or 10 horse, or something because it is a neat
area back in there, right. So I think there is some other opportunities maybe we could all discuss, look at
that could be a win/win here. To make the first boat lift, you know dredge it out, make it deeper.
Something like that. Okay.
Sacchet: Thank you. I saw another hand.
Hud Hollenback: One more thing, I apologize for my voice. I'm taking medication for my back and my
mouth goes dry. I second what he said. I have another problem and maybe I'm just getting to be a hard
head. I have a problem with the no wake solving the problem. I don't think it's going to. I'm sorry. I
travel Highway 7 all the time and I put it on cruise at 50 and there's not a car that doesn't pass me. I
mean they can't read 50. They're doing 55 and 60, and this, when I've been on the lakes, people's idea of
no wake varies, so it's not going to be boats slowly crawling through Little Minne. And it won't be
policed, so no wake is not the solution.
Keefe: I've got one question. You know in a previous hearing when we were talking about another issue,
somebody had talked about the history of Lake Minnewashta and that it was, it's actually a much cleaner
lake today than it was even 20 years ago, and I'd like to get your comment in regards to that because one
of the things that I think my understanding of it is, it's actually, it's been actually pretty well managed in
terms of it's clarity.
Hud Hollenback: They've done a heck of ajob. They have.
Keefe: Would you agree with that?
Hud Hollenback: I'm just trying to not to have it, what we're looking at though is a clip. I mean what
was over here. .. The park is going to be over here. It's completely different from what we negotiated.
But no, they deserve a lot of credit.
Sacchet: I saw a hand in the back, if you want to still speak up as well.
B.J. Greer: B.J. Greer. I live at 2771 Piper Ridge. I don't live directly on the lake. I live across the
street. I spend a lot of time on Little Minne, kayaking and canoeing and I for one can tell you that the no
wake rules have been breached quite often. One thing that concerns me is closing that second boat launch
and funneling everything back through that kind of pristine area. I agree with some points that were
brought up. Possibly finding a third or fixing that first boat launch. In the past I've also owned a boat
and I've been guilty of putting a over 10 horsepower boat in on that launch. One for being ignorant of the
sign which was pointed out to me by the Carver County Sheriff, but I also at that point would launch my
boat at the other landing and there were times that I had to actually park up by the picnic area up on top of
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the hill because there were so many boats down there so I understand the 16 year old and counting people
coming in and out. That would be pretty difficult and not all of them go to either landing. So I guess I
would just like to go on the record as being against raising that 10 horsepower limit because I'm a little
concerned with funneling more traffic through that area and like I said before, being a canoeist and
kayaker, you do tend to feel the waves coming through when someone is not following the rules and
that's all.
Sacchet: Thank you very much.
Lillehaug: I have a question for you.
Sacchet: Yeah, go ahead Steve.
Lillehaug: I got a ticket by parking out by that area that you said you parked. Did you get a ticket? I did.
B.J. Greer: I didn't get a ticket. I did get parking at the first landing. And I had the ticket sitting on my
car and believe me, you can tell if someone's boat trailer is over 10 horsepower just by looking at it. It's
pretty easy and there are quite a few big boats that do in that way, and I understand your point about
getting your pontoon boat in. I don't think it's the owners on the lake that are the ones that concern me as
much as just a lot of additional larger horsepower traffic coming in there and that lake does get fairly busy
sometimes. Nothing to the aspects of Lake Minnetonka, which I've boated on too but, so I don't know.
Any other questions or? Thank you.
Sacchet: Okay, thankyou very much. Alright, last chance. Anybody else wants to address this item.
Seeing nobody, I'm closing the public hearing. Bring it back to commissioner for discussion and
comments. Who wants to start? Rich?
Slagle: I can start. I am, as I mentioned, went back and forth but after some due diligence and thinking
of this I would have to say that I am against raising it. But I throw out the caveat that I don't think, and I
don't want to be critical ofthe process that went through, that you looked at your alternative sources for a
boat launch, but when I look at, I guess it would be, I don't know if we have a page number but the map
of the park. And if I look at that, I could make a common sense decision that would cut off that bay
because I've been there many times in that bay. It is very, very nice and to think that you would have
potentially 20 boats at 7:00 trying to come in. I have a boat. They'll be tuming around. They'll be
backing up. I mean that bay will not be the same bay as it is today. It seems to me that if there's issues
about wind, which I didn't ask you how important the wind was, but I'm going to take that it seems to be
somewhat important, again on a scale of 1 to 10, wind, I don't know if wind is over rules the
environmental impact of that bay. And I would go as far as asking the City to look into how we restrict in
that bay, not just outgoing but going in, because I certainly don't think it makes sense to restrict the boat
horsepower for someone launching but then someone on the lake can go in there with a 40 and claim they
didn't know anything about it. Or 100 or 200, so I'm against it and would just ask that they look for other
alternati ves.
Sacchet: Jerry, you want to make a comment? No?
McDonald: No comments.
Sacchet: Dan?
Keefe: Yeah, where I come down on this and I'm somewhat torn but I think I'm leaning towards
approval of this and really for the following reasons. You know if95% ofthe traffic, and I'm not sure if
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that's a right statement or not but a good chunk of the traffic, boat traffic in that bay comes from off the
lake, then the 10 horsepower isn't really going to regulate that piece of it. The no wake would regulate
that piece of it. And the quality of the lake, the Lake Minnewashta, at least with my understand is really
been maintained at a very high level. Actually an improving level over at least a certain period of time.
I'm not exactly sure what that period of time is, and I think that the people involved in managing that lake
have done a good job and I think the, a lot of the residents have spoken to that and I'm not sure that it is
their intention in terms of moving these to, consolidating these two boat ramps to actually deteriorate the
quality of the lake. I think they've taken that into consideration in regards to the recommendation.
Additionally we're talking about 35 spaces of which a portion right now are split to one ramp or the other.
You're going to consolidate those into one incrementally in terms of the number of additional boats going
through that. There's going to be an increase. I'm not convinced that a good portion of those won't pay
attention to the no wake. I think they probably will. I actually think the number of boats going through
there is going to be fairly minimal that are going to violate that. Violate that 10 horsepower given the fact
that there's only 35 spaces for 35 boats available in the park so I think I'm leaning for this one.
Larson: I don't think I have any comments.
Sacchet: No comments Debra. Steve.
LiIlehaug: Well, I think we need to keep two things separate here. Consolidating and re-arranging is not
the issue. I mean I know they're related but it's not the issue with this application. Speed limit on the
lake is not the issue with this application period. It's not. And a few points that I want to make, it doesn't
matter if you swap the restriction from access 1 to 2 because they're going to be consolidated so other
suggestions to swap it in my mind, that's not a solution because we're looking at consolidating. At this
point it's my opinion that lifting the ban won't increase and intensify the use of the bay. I use Lake
Minnewashta quite a bit and I didn't even realize, and I'm pretty cognizant of the rules of the lakes, and
for one I didn't know there was a speed limit that was something less than 50 miles an hour, so if it is, I
would really ask staff to work with the County and make that better known because I didn't know it and I
use that lake all the time. Number two, my boat doesn't do any more damage to that bay than a 10
horsepower boat does, and I have a 200 horsepower engine and I put a lot of merit that that new motor
doesn't do any more damage. Access 2, as has been indicated, is very non-functional. And then I would
also add that because of it's being non-functional, that the boats coming in and out of there actually create
quite a bit of damage in itself and it hurts the environment alone right there. Does it compare to the
damage or increase damage if we have 35 more boats or 25 more in Minne Bay? I don't have a good
judge of that but there is damage being done at access 2 because of it's non-functioning. Issues are in the
lake with speeds like you indicated, I don't think, there might be a disobedience of the no wake zone in
Minne Bay but again, I don't think the horsepower is the issue there. And the last thing is, my opinion is
the no wake zone is the answer and it's not the horsepower restriction so I do support this. Do I support
the modifications like have been suggested? I don't know. I haven't seen a plan. I've heard it proposed
but at this time considering lifting the 10 horsepower, I support that.
Sacchet: Well my comment I probably can summarize in two words. I'm a kayaker. Do I need to say
more?
Larson: So am I and I think it's fun on waves.
Sacchet: And it's my prime kayaking place. Minne Bay because I live very close to Mione Bay. I
absolutely love that place. It's a very pristine place. If it would be up to me I would push for no motors
in Minne Bay. So coming from that vantage point I have a very hard time lifting any restriction in this
area, whether it's connected to any other issues or not. I don't have a problem with the waves, as you say
it can be fun. But I do have an issue with the impact it has on the environment, even now with the 10
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parking spots for boats, there are times where there are 3, 4, 5 boats stacking up and to envision that that's
going to be multiplying, I mean as a kayaker I have an issue when there are 2, 3, 4 boats stacking up. So
without considering the potential where this is going to go with the comprehensive plan, and yes I did
attend your, some of your presentations. The one at Bluff Creek I think it was, and did express my views
as a kayaker there as well. I don't know whether you might remember. I certainly do, so being a kayaker
and an environmentalist I oppose really lifting any restriction that has a further impact on the
environment. And I do question these 4 findings in the staff report where it says it will not be detrimental
or damage the safety, comfortable, general welfare of the neighborhood which is 4(a) of the findings.
4(d) of the findings, will not be hazardous or disturbing to the existing of planned neighborhood uses. I
think it's very disturbing to a kayaker. Finding (i). Will not result in the destruction, loss or damage of
natural, scenic or historic features of any significance. I think it does impact it. I mean once you're going
to have multiple power boats stacking up, or in this case what's in front of us, boats with more motors, it
will be aesthetically compatible which is Finding (j). I don't think it's aesthetically compatible with the
pristine nature of that particular bay to have bigger motors. To have more motors. That's just my humble
opinion as a kayaker. And I'm actually surprised how much support I'm getting here tonight so I want to
thank you for that. That's my comment. It was longer than I expected. So with that I'm willing to take a
motion.
Lillehaug: I make a motion the Planning Commission recommends approval of the amendment to
Conditional Use Permit #75-2, Section 6.04, Lake Access based on the Findings of Fact with the
following condition, number 1.
Sacchet: We have that motion. Second?
McDonald: Second.
Sacchet: We have a motion. We have a second.
LiIlehaug moved, McDonald seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of the
amendment to Conditional Use Permit #75-2, Section 6.04, Lake Access based on the Findings of
Fact with the following condition:
1. Carver County Parks shall contact the Department of Natural Resources before proceeding with
drudging of Little Minne Bay channel.
All voted in favor, except Sacchet and Slagle who opposed, and the motion carried with a vote of 4
to 2. (Kurt Papke did not vote due to a conflict of interest.)
Sacchet: We have 2 nays and 4 yea's. Is that correct? Alright, motion carries. Goes to City Council on
February 28th I believe.
Metzer: It's the 28th.
Sacchet: The 28th. That's accurate, okay. Thank you very much.
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR WETLAND ALTERATION PERMIT TO FILL.11 ACRES OF TYPE 3 AND .01
ACRES OF TYPE 2 WETLAND FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENT OF TURN LANES AND
SIGNAL CONSTRUCTION LOCATED AT THE TH 101 AND CSAH 14 (PIONEER TRAIL)
INTERSECTION. APPLICANT CARVER COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS. PLANNING CASE NO.
05-07.
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