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1982 02 01 I I I CITY COUNCIL MJNUl'ES - February I, 1982 -1- A regular meeting of the Chanhassen City Council was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Mayor Hamilton. The following members were present: Mayor Hamilton, CounciJmen Neveaux, SWenson, Geving and Horn. The meeting was opened with the Pledge to the Flag. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Councilman Geving moved to approve t..he agenda as presented. Motion seconded by Councilman Horn. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilman Neveaux, SWenson, Geving and Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. APPROVAL OF MINUI'ES: Councilman Horn indicated that the DecEmber 21, 1981 minutes, 2nd page, under "1981 Audit Contract" should state "Mayor Hamilton" instead of "Mayor Neveaux II . A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by CounciJman Geving to approve the DecEmber 21, 1981 City Council minutes as amended. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilmen Neveaux, SWenson, Geving and Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. A motion was made by Councilman SWenson and seconded by Councilman Horn to approve the January 4, 1982 City Council minutes. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilmen Neveaux, SWenson and Horn. Councilman Geving abstained. Motion carried. Councilman Horn expressed concern that some of the decisions of the HRA were not presented to the Planning Canmission. He also stated with the HRA meeting on either the 3rd or 4th Thursday of the month that it might create some problems with the Planning Canmission changing their meeting night to Thursday. Councilman SWenson indicated that she wondered by the Planning Ca:nmission appointed a new mEmber on the Board of Adjusbnents and Appeals. She stated she feels that it is important to be well versed in the ordinances before serving on the Board of Adjusbnents. Mike Thompson from the Planning Ca:nmission stated that William SWearengin volunteered for the position and will do well. He also indicated that last year Carol Watson was appointed for the same position and did very well. A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman SWenson to note the minutes of the Planning Canmission meetings of January 6 and 13, 1982. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilmen Neveaux, Swenson, Geving and Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. DOWN'IOWN REDEVEIDP.MENT PROJECT, UPDATE REPORT KRAUS ANDERSON /BLCX:M.BERG COMPANIES: Dennis Spalla of Kraus Anderson Develop:nent Corporation and Bill McRüstie of Bloc:mberg Companies were present. They explained to the Council that there has not been a lot of growth in this type of market. There is no IIDney available for new retailers or for those who want to move from one area· to another. Super Valu indicated that they are not interested in building in Chanhassen at this time. Other stores have indicated the same. It was stated that with CPT building and possibly Minnetonka, Inc. building in this area, that that may bring IIDre people out to live in Chanhassen. McRostie suggested that this project be put on hold for one year. Councilman Geving asked Scott Martin what is going to happen with the options that we already have with John Havlik and John Huber. Martin answered that the City has until SeptEmber, 1983 before the options expire. IDI'US LAKE ESTATES, PLAT TViO AND THREE, GENERAL CCNCEPT PRESENTATION, B. T. LAND CO: Rick Murray from B.T. Land Company was present. He gave a brief history of the plat. Mr. Murray explained that B. T. Land Company is proposing to build 4-plex and 8-plex CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - February 1, 1982 -2- lDI'US LAKE ESTATES, PIAT TWO AND THREE, GENERAL CONCEPT' PRESENTATION, B. T. LAND CO. (CONTINUED) : units in this area. These units would be anywhere from 1100 square feet to 1450 squal feet. They start with 2 bedrooms and go to 3 bedrooms. Even with as low as the economy has been, another company sold 80 units last year. Mr. Murray presented a sketch plan to the City Council. The homeowners from Lotus Lake are circulating a petition to support this concept. The sketch has 140 units versus 98 units that were in the single family plat sketch. Councilman Neveaux stated that he feels B. T. Land Company has researched every area and have come up with good concepts. Councilman Horn expressed concern regarding the fact that 8-plex and 4-plex units are good with the current economy, but what about in a few years when things pick up again? Will someone want to buy 2 units and change it into one larger home? Councilman Horn stated he feels it is an attractive style. Councilman Geving stated he has concerns over the environment. The style of home is quite different from other homes in the area. He stated he wanted to hold his judgement as it was a very distinct style that is being proposed. Mayor Hamilton stated that he feels this is a very nice area for this type of developTIent. He also stated he would like to reserve the opportunity to review the density as 140 units are more than previously discussed. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, LAND USE CHANGE, AMERICAN LEGION PROPERTY (CHANGE FROM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC TO COMMERCIAL): Bob Waibel, City Planner stated that the first procedure for the city council would be to amend the Canprehensive Plan Land Use Map and designate that area for corrmercial use. Rezoning would occur at a later date. Various questions were raised concerning actual use of the property. Councilman I Neveaux stated that the council is only changing the color on the map and they will not be allowing any specific uses by this action. Any specific requests have to go through an additional rezoning process. This has nothing to do with the roads or uses. Waibel stated that if the American Legion wants to sell their property to a family restaurant, they might ask for a C-2 zoning. That would restrict gas stations with the exception that they could get a conditional use pennit rather than be an outright permitted use. Neveaux asked if the Canprehensive Plan map could be changed to a C-2 ccrnmercial color. Waibel stated that there is only one color for ccrnmercial. A representative of the American Legion stated that they have a very limited usage of the property with extremely high taxes and a very high sewer and water assessment. The Legion could be located elsewhere and cut their operating expenses considerably. A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by CounciJman Horn to approve the request from the Chanhassen American Legion Post 580 to change the Comprehensive Plan Land Use Map to reflect a ccrnmercial classification for their property at Hig):.¡y,¡ays 5 and 101. This does not grant any specific zoning to the property other than to amend the Canprehensive Plan from a public/semi-public to a comnercial classification. The following voted in favor thereof: Mayor Hamilton, Councilmen Neveaux, Geving, Horn and Swenson. No negative votes. Motion carried. 1982/83 LIQUOR LICENSE FEE SCHEDULES: The city council discussed increasing the liquor license fees for 1982. Two figures were considered - the 10% increase paralleling the 1982 general fund increases, or the approximate 15% increase applied I on the police contract fran Carver County. Harry Pauly spoke noting that the 15% increase was too high. RESOLUI'ION: 82-04: A motion was made by Councilman Geving and seconded by Councilman Horn increasing liquor license fees by 10%, except those regulated under State law and as noted in the attorneyls report of February 1, 1982. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilmen Neveaux, Geving, Horn and SWenson. No negative votes. Motion carried. I I I CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - February 1, 1982 -3- .~ RURAL SERVICE AREA, GENERAL REVIEW: LOn Ashwort..h presented a map to the council showing the rural service areas. Ther~ is no action needed at this time unless the council has significéU1.t concerns about! either the ordinance or í...¡hat we are proposing to do. Ashworth sts.ted that when this is returned, platted or develofillent approvals given will be de:Se'ted frc:m the rural service area, Le. Near Mountain is outside of the rural E:¡érvice area whereas Brose and Kerber properties remain inside the rural service area. Craig Zinter, Carver County Assessor and Lana Larson fran the Assessor I s office were present. Mr. zinter stated that it is important that we all have a general idea of what the outlook-is, especially under the well known fact that the State is not in 'good shape and that alot of our local aids are being cut back and there is going to be a heavy burden placed on property tax which would no doubt mean a larger turn out at boards of review. We would like to develop sane sort of a schedule whereby we could answer your questions, give preliminary ideas of what kind of things we are expecting to accc:mplish wi thin the 1982 assessment areas. We find that we will have to work harder and more thoroughly. We would like to discuss the types of generalized changes that maybe you have expected, Le. lake shore versus platted areas, etc. so that you can have a feel for wb.at the market is doing in those areas and what kind of things may be generated at the Board of Review. It can be implemented by Green Acres. They have implications on such things as special assessments as well as taxes on or collected in a given year. Also ,explaining the Agricultural Preserves Act and what its implications on t.he City of Chanhassen may be, should the council designate any land into the preserve area. Zinter also stated he would try to answer any particular questions concerning the process' of property assessment. I would also like to arrive at a date for the Board of Review for the Hennepin County portion of Chanhassen. Mayor Hamilton suggested that this be set for another meeting. zinter suggested that as a preliminary he could go over the sales analysis for things that indicate where there is a need for éLl1 adjusbnent and show the council where we stand right now. ,When you talk about a specific plat b'1.at has been in existence for many years, some of the appraisals may be outdated and you will find that some properties change IIDre dramatically than others. Ashworth suggested that a special meeting date of March 8, 1982 be set to consider questions posed this evening, as well as any other information Mr Zinter would like to present. Council mEmbers should suhni t any questions they would like answered by February 15th. The council agreed with the Manager I s proposed schedule. No action was taken. CONSENT AGENDA: Mayor Hamilton asked if cotmcil members wished. to discuss any item on the Consent Agenda. Ashworth stated that the problem with senior citizens fares has been resolved. The senior citizens can take the early bus and will be charged the 10¢ fare. Geving ,suggested that this be published in Karen I sCorner. There being no further ccrnments, a motion was made by Councilman Horn and seconded by Councilman Geving to approve the consent agenda pursuant to the Ma.Ylager IS recommendations. a. Feasibility Update for Dunn, Burdick and Brose Properties. b. Resolution to MI'C, Senior Citizen Fares. c. Set Public Hearing Date forLOwntown Redevelor:rnent Public Improvement Project - RESOLUTION 82-05. The following voted in favor: and Horn. No negative votes. rvT..ayor Hamilton, Councilmen Neveaux, C'€ving, SWenson Mot.ion carried. CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - February 1, 1982 -4- POSITlœ CLASSIFICATION AND PAY COMPENSATION PLAN, FINAL ADOPTION: Mayor Hamilton distributed a copy of information he had prepared regarding 10 cities shown in the Stanton Survey and the mid-point for ranges for that group of cities. The Mayor additionally noted his concern with the previous mid-points for three positions, I Manager's Secretary, Housing Assistance and Senior Account Clerk. Additionally, the work completed by the Mayor reflected that the Laborer's position in other cities was not comparable with work needed to be completed in Chanhassen and should be lowered. General discussion occurred as to the responsibility points associated with each of these positions. Recognizing that the overall increase applied against any position was dependent upon both the mid-point for the position as well the interpretation of the cube, the council delayed further action on determining responsibility levels and proceeded to insure that all members (council and staff) had a common understanding as to how the cube should and will be applied, L e. Bill Monk: You Ive got me confused with some of the nunbers here. Mayor Hamilton: OK, you have the public works director. At the present time, your mid-point range has just gone up to $31,400. The minimum of your range is $25,100. Your current salary being at $27,000 is 86% of that mid-point. All you do is look at the cube, at 86% and rated a C puts you in the tax which says that you can receive a 7% to 8% increase right now and you are also able to receive your next review at 6 months. Bill Monk: As shown in the sheets in front of you, I have extended overall salaries and I came up with that 9.3%. That cernes out to $37,600. It is up to the budget amount, but I used a stricter interpretation of the cube instead of a more liberal one. Don Ashworth: What you are saying Bill is that when you shewed the €st. the 9.3 percent, you took the more conservative position after 9 months. increases, I Bill Monk: I did take the conservative appl'vach on this one. You should be aware that the "estimated cube increase 11 is a percent on the mid-point; whereas, the next colunn shows the increase as a percent of the persons 1981 salary, because that is normally how people work, Le. how much more will I make? And it was easier for me to work that way. Those two colunns are equal, it's just they are percents of different numbers, one a percent of the mid-point and the other a percent of the persons 1981 salary. Councilman Geving: What would you calculate the dollar _cQst_onJ:.:oth of the last two colunns to be the way you calculated? Bill Monk: 9.3% represents $37,600 in salary increases for 1981-82 and the original staff position at 9.7% represents $39,300. The budget allotment presently is $39,700 so either one is within the budget. Councilman Geving: When the Mayor made his calculations, he came up with $41,400. Bill Monk: With a more liberal approa:::h, I wouldn't doubt that it would increase that much. Councilman Geving: This is the point I wanted to make last time, whatever we do I tonight must be wi thin the budget. Don Ashworth: Lcoking at the Street Superintendent, we have a percentile of 97%. Bill and I had lnterpreted that the maximum is 104% @ a "c" leveL So the actual increase on that would not be 9.5% and 10.5%. The maximum used is 7%, otherwise it would have exceeded the 104%. I I I CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - February 1, 1982 -5- POSITION CLASSIFICATION AND PAY COMPENSATION PLAN, FINAL AOOPTION (CONTINUED): Bill Monk:_ The cube says that we cannot allow anyone to exceed the 104% with a Crating. That was one of the things I would like to get changed. It should be an increase of 108%. .. Just enlarge that rox to allow for a an increase· for an experienced worker. Councilman Neveaux: At the C level? Bill Monk: Yes. The other levels should be 112% of the maximum for a B and 120% of the maximum for an A. I did think that if we went to 108% of the maximum that that would be more equitable because sane of the people are kind of locked in unless they always perform at a liB" level which does not seem possible year after year. Councilman Horn: I think we should cane up with structure that doesn't take specifics into account. We have set up a guideline here that, if that's a problem, there is something wrong with the job description. If the job description is accUrate and you have set it up based on this, then either the job doesn It warrant more or the job description is inaccurate. It has to be only one of those problems; you shouldn I t change this just based on specific individuals. The City Council gf'.l1erally discussed the Manager's secretarial position. No specific action was taken with Councilman Horn summarizing the discussion. Councilman Horn: It seems to me that the whole purpose of getting this consultant was to read the job descriptions and rank the jobs accordingly. The Manager I s Secretary is 148 and it falls between 145 and 150. It looks to me like the proposals here are adequate. I think we should set general guidelines. Here are our job descriptions, we have håd a consultant to give us proportionate ranking on that. I think we should set sane budgetary guidelines and give Don and his staff authority to set salaries within a certairi percent increase this year. I think it. is taking Don, Bill and Scott's· jobs away fran 'tlieffitp challenge all of the job descriptions and i..l1dividual people here. As long as they fall into the rottom line dollars, we should not be concerned. We have a good concept going here. Frankly, I didn I t like what was going on in the past. I think. what we have is a good basis f but we should leave some of the nitty gritty detail up to the Manager. We have given some basic guidelines. We have a manual that we did not have before. We have sanething that I feel is. more realistic, which would be things that are done in business. The one person that it is not fair to is saneone who has been in a job for a long time and is over qualified for the position. That is a problem with upper mobility. That is the challenge for the administration to show these people where they can grow in their careers. I think that we have what we need. The city Council then proceeded to discuss whether positions should bè grouped and how that grouping should occur, l.e: Councilman Neveaux: Your February 1st stat.ement says that the Camlunity Develop:nent Director's posi tionshould not exceed $31,000 and.be grouped with the Engineer IS position. Councilman Geving: I was rrore than happy with the Iflayor's canrr.ents at the. bottan of this page showing that mid-point at $29,172. Bill Monk: That was a 1981 survey. Councilman Geving: I understand that and also. where you are coming from. I also think that it is a fair analysis of that position. We are already increasing that mid-point considerably from. where he already is. CITY COUNCIL MINUI'ES - February 1, 1982 -6- FOSITION CLASSIFICATION AND PAY CCMPENSATION PLAN,. FINAL ACOPTION (CONTINUED): Councilman Horn: We have the same nunher on the job evaluation ranking and it would seem to me "Ù1ey should have the same mid-point. I Councilman Geving: I disagree. Those 2 positions were hired practically on the same day and they were several thousand dollars apart at that time and they should continue to be. Councilman Horn: That has nothing· to do with where the mid-'point is. Councilman Geving: I would like to see that mid-point remain just as suggested in November, 1981. Councilman Horn: But you don I t seta mid-'point based on starting salaries of people who come in with different experience levels and you can I t go by starting salaries. Councilman Swenson: I realize you were busy Scott, but when you were hired there was a directive in regards to gettin:g your masters degree. Are you going to pursue that? Scott Martin: I have completed 12 credits out of a48 credit master degree program. Councilman Geving: I didn't quite understand what we got in Don' s February 1st method of establishing mid-point s. Mayor Hamilton: Looking at the 1982 mid-points, there are some levels that fit together nicely. We talked about bunching some of them together. We should decide to do that or do you want each individual range to be handled by itself. For "instance, the mid-point for the Planning Coordinator would be $21,600, the Park and Recreation I Coordinator would be $21,100, the Mechanic would be $21,100, the Park Foreman would be $21,400 and the Heavy EquipTIent Operator would be $21,300. They all fit within a category to make them all $21,600. You can make the Utility Superintendent and Street Superintendent one classification. Then just below the Heavy Equip-nent Operator you have the Engineering Tech at 192 and 193 and the Utility Maintenance Operator at 191. We could round them all to $19,300 - I took the higher just to be fair to everybody. Councilman Neveaux: Will someone explain the evaluation on Ashworth's secretary at 148 and suggested salary of $17 ,319 and the two Light Equipnent Operators are only 146 and they are $2,000 more. Mayor Hamilton: I can't explain the formula because I didn't go along with it. If you looked at the salary, and again I am not looking at personalities, it would be much better if you took the 10 position mid-points currently for this position salary. Councilman Neveaux: I am uncomfortable with that. When someone whose evaluation is higher and gets $3,000 less than someone with a similar classification. Bill Monk: Certain positions will get a rank above others. Responsibility, like the Manager's Secretary, would be as great or greater than that of a Light EquipTIent. Operator. Valuation ranking systems are not perfect,.but I guess that in some positions you do have to go back to the averages you get from the cities ¿md tl;rey clearly point, in this case, that light equipnent operators are given a certain wage~ and all I can say is that sometimes points given out in a ranking system don I t match the pay, but later on this will all come out. I Don Ashworth: The reason for the confidential memo was in hopes to come down to a point where all councilmen were in agreement that the overall plan concepts are sound. That the only question is one of refinEment. If this is not the case, another approach should be considered. I hear support for the plan. I think it is down to that point. I I I CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - February 1, 1982 -7- POSITION CLASSIFICATION AND PÞ::l COMPENSATION PLAN, FINAL ADOPTION (CONTINUED): Don As):.¡y,¡orth (Continued): The council had originally stated that the mid-points as proposed by staff were too high. The 10 city average does reduce those. I do not have a problEm with that. In other words, the adoption of the 10 city survey and the grouping as you put them in will work. I have attempted to relate the justification for the Manager's Secretary position. If you approve the recorrmended salary mid-point, the actual salary increase will not exceed 7.2%. This will probably be the lowest percent increase that will be given. Councilman Horn: The Equipnent Operator and the other person in the Laborer category, it is my feeling that we give Don scme guidelines and b~en he set those as he sees fit because there may be special circumstances that he is aware of that we are not. I think that we have it down to those two analogies and it appears to me that keeping it within the overall guidelines we give him, and it is his responsibility to work it out with Bill and Scott. I don't think b'1.at we're that far off. Coun.c'iJman NeVeal1X: I agree. This is why we hired a professional. Counc.iJ.man Geving: J thirÜç that this was a Vel.'Y wortl1\vlÜle effOl.""t. I thought we did more analysis on city staff salaries this year than has ever been. done before. Some good is going to ccme out of this. Mayor Hé1J(lilton: This is go.i.'lg to be very beneficial to the Œtployees and to t."I1e staff as far ¿:J.S administ.ering. It will be a much better system for all Employees. If we adopt this tonight, we can -¡ Ylcloo.e those tbi.ngs that are agreeable to all of us and throw out those things that aren I t needed. Every employee of the city should receive a copy of this book¡ then they will be able to see the cube and S(;Ë( how the percentage of increase will effect them later. CouncLl1nan Horn: It would be my reco[w.endation to review the 10 d.-ties mid-points average all the way down the line. CounciJman Neveaux: The only change would be the addition of 291 for Comnunity DevelopTIent/HRA Director and the IIDvement of the LaJ:x:>rer to $16,000. Bin Monk~ I would like to check ·that one out. $16,000 seerns low to rae, but $17 ,900 also seEmS very high. I would like sane fle.."'S:ibi1ity to take a closer look at this one. Scott Martin: I guess I would like to clarify what your mid~point is for my p::>si·tion since you are using 1981 datél using $29,100 whereas everyone else is using 1982 data. Mayor Hamilton: In my opinion, $29,100 is where your mid-point oug..'1t -to be. Scott £-.-1arU.n: It really OOthers me t."I1êtt my position is being singled out, whereas the others are being based on sane survey. Mayor Hamilton: Will someone maJ.ce a motion to accept the 10 cities mid-point averages, with the exception of the LaJ:x:>rer, to give Bill Monk the ability to adjust tha·t mid-:point as he sees fit. Martin Walsh: Mr. Mayor, it seems to me that by setting the wage at $15,000 you have created a lower than average mid-point. This will create a high turn over rate for someone :bl that: job. In the long ru..'l, that position is going -to cost you alot more money than setting tl1e price higher tœ..::.rl $15 f 000. Mayor Hamilton: That's not a deadend job. CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - February 1, 1982 -8- POSITION CLASSIFICATION AND PAY CCMPENSATION PLAN, FINAL AIX)PTION (CONTINUED): Martin Walsh: It is not a deadend job, but a person only making $15,000... Councilman Neveaux: That will only be the mid-point. Martin Walsh: How long will it take to get to the mid-point? Mayor Hamilton: It shouldn't take too long. Martin Walsh: What is the maximum? Councilman Neveaux: About $18,000. Martin Walsh: If it takes you three or four years to reach that mid-point, the person in that job is going to quit before he reaches the mid-point. Mayor Hamilton: Hopefully that person will be doing well enough in that job so that he will be going into something else. We haven't had a Laborer in the past, and I doubt if we will have one in the future. Whoever is in that position will go on to sanething else. If your performance in that position is good enough, then I am sure that that is what is going to happen. Councilman Neveaux: $18,000 is the top and $15,000 is the mid-point. That is at 100%. The cube is set up to bring someone fran 20% below that up through the mid-point to 20% above the mid-point, so the mid-point is $15,000 and the maximum would be $18}000. Martin Walsh: On what criteria did you base the $15,000? Mayor Hamilton: I just had that feeling. In talking with other people who have reviewed these kinds of positions, they felt that that was a fair evaluation of the job. Martin Walsh: Do you know what my job entails? Mayor Hamilton: Let IS not get into that. Is the council satisfied with the 10 cities sUDleyed? What you are seeing is $29,100 for the Community DevelopTIent Director and Bill Monk will set the Laborer with a reasonable rate. Councilman Neveaux: If you look at Scott Martin I s mid-point, we are looking at 1982 salaries with an inflationary factor built into it in the 10 city sUDley for everyJ:ody else except that one position. We established his mid-point from 1981 salaries. This is a discrepancy. Councilman Horn: I look at it fran a different angle John. You come up with the same conclusion and that is that if you look at it from the job rankings, they are equivalent. If the rest of the criteria do not apply to the job, I would take it to the job evaluation ranking and they are ranked the same. Councilman Neveaux: In our organizational structure, the Public Works Director and Community DevelopTIent Director are lateral positions and in fact, their evaluation ranking came out the same also. Councilman SWenson: Actually, you are winding up with an actual annual difference of $500 without considering the sUDley. Aren I t we making an awful lot of noise over nothing? I I I CITY CO'lJI:\CIL MTI.\!UI'ES - February 1, 1982 "'9-- POSITION CLASSIFICATION .Þbu PAY ca'¡;-°jTNSATION PT.ìXl\T j' FINllli ADOPTION (CON'rINTJ"ED): I A motion was made by Cotmcil..T[};"ill Ho:cn a11:1 seconded by Cou.J:lciJrnan Neveaux to accept the guidelines of the 10 cities survey for mid-points a..Yld where abnor.mal-ties exist, such as the Conmunity Develor:ment Director for example, that the job ranking criteria would be appUec:. -Also¡ that we categorize certaLî areas and leave some of the finalizing up t.o the juð.g8!ìent of the City 1'1anager, Scot-t r-t=rrtin and Bill t"lOnk, an d we accept t.his as êi. gBneral guideline ;l'1.à overall goal nut to exceed the percentage figure that was established last week. The follaving voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilmen Neveaux, SWenson, Geving and Horn. No negative votes. Motion cæ:-ried. A motion was rnade by CouncilTLlarl NeveallX and seconded by Councìl..'nan Swenson -cr..at we use the cube as indicated on page 11 with the addition of 108% box on level C. The follcvling voted in favor: Councilmen NeVea1...1X ar~d S-'tlenson. !l1ayor Ha..'l1ilton, Councilme..î Horn illld Geving voted no. Motion failed. Art Kerber: How long does it take to get to the mid-point? Mayor Hamilton: It. is hard to 52.y. Let's assume b'1at you are at 85% of yom:- mid~point. You could receive as much as a 16% increase this year and next year your mid-point is going t.o J.TlOve up agaiIl. CounciJrnan Geving: It's based on your performance. I Art Kerber: I 'm not worried about my performance. As far as I know, all indications point that I am doing the things in this book. In this same book, where all this information c~ame (f0:t of f it takes b"lO years to get from the mÌJ.ïil11üffi to the maxiruUíu. I have my ·two years 5n this week and 11m not evE:.YJ. close tCJ the mid..".poinJc ye-t. If we are going to go by what other cities are doL'1g, arld by averages, let I s get to where you are sup~,sed to be in two years instead of 86%. It is going t:o take me &'1.other two years to get to the mid-point and the;.'1 I ïtlill :ï:e two years behinà. Mayor Hamlton: You are misundexst-é'l1ding t:.~e whole tP..ing. Your sala....--y has been based on union scales. Your mid-point now is higher than what it was previously. Bill Monk: There are positions within the city that will not make it to their mid-point for sane time. The cube has done alot. This is not going to automatically catch people up with tbeir mid-po:LYlto It is a fact of ·t.~e cube. I don 't know r..'Jw to explain how to set it_ up otb.envise ¡ but there is no questioIl "b.'l.at in Art's case it will take a wl~_le. Councilman SWenson: Þ..rt r you are talking about getti:flg -to the Inid~point in two years. What was the mid-[..oint \-,71"1(:ffi you starte:l worki11!-J? Have you reachc-xl the mid-fOint fran that time? Bill Monk; The cube is set: up to g-ive è. p:2rcent increase to the mid-point. W.hen I talk to an employee, I always think of how much money that means in ~·ela.tion 'co 1981 salary. I çouncilma:n Geving;. The way d.lat the cube is set: up you can one year. 'That is h.A" you )llO\/e up. yj!1enever you are belav'l six month raises at 8% so you have an annual raise of 16%. only goes 10%, you are gaining 6% a year on the mid-point. have two increases in the 88% group, you can get Assuming that your mid-p:Jint Bill funk: I believe that is a very lit>eral interpretation of the cube. I don It know if we can afford that type of interpretation. .M.ditionally, the first increase puts you into a new bracket and then that tells you when your increase is, which in IIDst cases would not allow two six IIDnth increases. Again, unless a IIDre liberal interpretation is taken. CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - February 1, 1982 -10- POSITION CIASSIFlCATION/PAY COMPENSATION PLAN 1 FINAL AOOPTION (CONTINUED): Councilman Geving: Let IS give it a shot. After '\ve've had 6 months of experience with it, let's see row the money table is working out, row the employees are liking it. Can we set a target date like that? I Mayor Hamilton: I really and honestly believe that this is an improvement for all of the employees. The employees are going to get rrore increases out of this system than out of the old system. If they want to go back to the old system and lose money, that is their decision. Art Kerber: Two years ago I could have gone to Edina, but I thought I would rather work in my home town and be around for fire calls. I would be making $2.00 more an hour if I would have gone to Edina. All the other towns that you compare us to have 3 or 4 steps in getting from the low end to the high end. They have fran 1 to 3 years to get to the maximum. Averaging that out canes to 1. 9 years to get to the maximun. If I was at the maximun now, I would be getting $9.31 an hour. As it is, I am getting $7.67 an hour. I don't want to wait two IIDre yèars to get to the mean of where I should be. Mayor Hamilton: I think your increase should be a good one this year. Art Kerber: I think there is something wrong with the system when it takes 4 years to get to the mid-point. Mayor Hamilton: This gives you an opportunity to have that much greater an increase each year. Art Kerber: When I started here, one of the questions that I was asked was "You are used to making more money than this. How long are you going to stay working for I the City at these wages?" I said I' 11 keep working for the City as long as the good wages come when they are supposed to, and they are not. I don 't think it is right that we have to wait so long to get to the mid-point. Scott Martin: We have to use this for a year before we really know how it is working. WEST 79TH STREET NO PARKING SIGNS: Mayor Hamilton coITmented that the signs were not up along West 79th Street. LAKE ANN PARK: Mayor Hamilton asked why Lake Ann Park is locked when the cross country ski trails go right through the park area. Dale Gregory was present and responded that the gates are locked due to vadalism. He noted that 4 wheel drive vehicles don't stay on the roads and drive over the ballfields. Bill Monk stated that we could try leaving the gate unlocked and if problems arise we could resume locking it. Don Ashworth stated that the Park and Recreation Commission had previous 1 y taken the position that they would like to see it open. MERLE VOLK' S AREA ON GALPIN BLVD: Mayor Hamilton stated that most of Mr. Volk r s shed had collasped. A motion was made by Councilman SWenson and seconded by Councilman Neveaux to adjourn the meeting. The follcwing voted in favor: Mayor Hamilton, Councilmen Neveaux, Swenson, Geving and Horn. No negative votes. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 11: 30 p.m. Don As):.¡y,¡orth City Manager I