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REGULAR CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING JULY 11, 1977
Mayor Hobbs called the meeting to order at 8:00 p.m. with the following
members present: Councilmen Pearson, Neveaux, Geving, and Waritz.
Craig Mertz, Russ Larson, Bruce Pankonin, and Don Ashworth were present.
The meeting was opened with the Pledge to the Flag.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Councilman Pearson moved to approve the agenda
with the addition of discussion on application for LAWCON funding for a
park. Motion seconded by Councilman Neveaux. The following voted in
favor: Mayor Hobbs, Councilmen Pearson, Neveaux, Geving, and Waritz.
No negative votes. Motion carried.
MINUTES: Amend page 2, line 3 of Resolution #77-34 in the June 21, 1977,
City Council minutes to read: ..for sanitary sewer only with sealcoat
restoration, sewer lateral,...
Amend Resolution #77-37 on page 4 of the June 21, 1977, City Council
minutes to read: At the request of Lake Susan Hills Partnership,
Councilman Pearson moved the adoption of a resolution authorizing a
feasibility study to be guaranteed by Lake Susan Hills Partnership
not to exceed $7,500.00 and pay any costs which are not a part of an
ordered improvement project. This resolution does not carry any
inference that the proposed development plan received approval or
concept approval by any board of the City. Resolution seconded by
Councilman Geving. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hobbs,
Councilmen Pearson, Geving, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion
carried.
Councilman Waritz moved to approve the June 21, 1977, Council minutes
as amended. Motion seconded by Councilman Pearson. The following
voted in favor: Mayor Hobbs, Councilmen Pearson, Waritz, and Geving.
Councilman Neveaux abstained. Motion carried.
Councilman Geving moved to note the June 22, 1977, Planning Commission
minutes. Motion seconded by Councilman Pearson. The following voted
in favor: Mayor Hobbs, Councilmen Pearson, Neveaux, Waritz, and Geving.
No negative votes. Motion carried.
Councilman Pearson expressed concern about the boats on Lotus Lake and
if the City enters into some sort of a boat access on Lotus Lake the
City will have to consider restricting the horsepower of boats on the
lake.
Councilman Geving moved to note the June 28, 1977, HRA minutes. Motion
seconded by Councilman Pearson. The following voted in favor: Mayor
Hobbs, Councilmen Pearson, Neveaux, Geving, and Waritz. No negative
votes. Motion carried.
Councilman Pearson moved to note the June 16, 1977, Community Facilities
Study Committee minutes. Motion seconded by Councilman Neveaux. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Hobbs, Councilmen Pearson, Neveaux,
Waritz, and Geving. No negative votes. Motion carried.
City Council Minutes July 11, 1977
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PUBLIC HEARING
STREET VACATION - SARATOGA LANE
Mayor Hobbs called the public hearing to order at 8:25 p.m. The I
following people were present:
Tom Hannon, 5209 James Ave. So., Mpls.
Pat Kerber, Chanhassen
James Hawks
Thomas Klingelhutz, Chanhassen
Douglas M. Hansen, Minnetonka
Craig Mertz recommended that the hearing be continued to August 1,
1977, due to an error in publishing the legal description. This
would allow for time to republish.
Tom Hannon - My first concern is that the new publication, if the
Council so decides, a legal description will be six feet more to
the west from where the initial cutoff was. Our problem is that
with the garbage trucks and snow plows are going to have to have
some means of turning around. It is also much more convenient for
Mr. Kerber to get out of his driveway if he is given a little more
room to back up on. Cutting the road off at his driveway, he could
swing in but to go back out he needs some room to go back out.
A possible concern of ours is that when the road is vacated from
the public road to the western most part of his lot, it is our
understanding that when a road is vacated that it is divided down
the middle and half goes to the abutting property owners and we
believe that Mr. Kerber would be entitled to half that road.
Russell Larson - The survey does not show that he abuts anyplace
along the vacated portion of the road.
Tom Hannon - In other words Hansen and Klingelhutz owns the property
between. .
Russell Larson - The vacation would all go to Hansen and Klingelhutz.
The question that you will be asked to determine at the continued
public hearing whether to vacate from "D" to "B" or vacate from·
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Mayor Hobbs - The other property owners are here perhaps they wish
to comment.
Jim Hawks - This is the first time this six feet idea has come up.
Six feet is not a problem. One provision, you know there is an
exception to the plat that hopefully will become a buildable lot
some day and we will have a public right-of-way on the western
end of the lot. We wouldn't want six feet more to interfere with
the back yard requirements because that's a pretty minimum area now
between the frontage on the cul-de-sac and where the vacation is
going to take place. I would kind of like to have it indicated
at least an understanding with the Planning Commission and Council
when we try to locate a house on that lot. It's possible that it
might be impossible to maintain a 35 foot setback by the fact of
that 20 foot easement. I guess it doesn't matter really, except
for that kind of a condition.
Councilman Pearson moved to continue the public hearing to August
1, 1977. Motion seconded by Councilman Neveaux. The following
voted in favor: Mayor Hobbs, Councilmen Pearson, Neveaux, Geving,
and Waritz. Hearing continued at 8:35 p.m.
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City Council Minutes July 11, 1977
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TEMPORARY NON- INTOXICATING LIQUOR LICENSE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - ST. HUBERT'S CHURCH:
Fr. Armand Lubansky of St. Hubert's Church is requesting that the church's temporary
non-intoxicating liquor license be increased to ten functions a year. This would
require an ordinance amendment.
Councilman Neveaux moved to place the proposed amendment on first reading. This
amendment would require temporary license holders to state the number of times per
year the license would be used, subject to Council approval. Motion seconded by
Councilman Waritz. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hobbs, Councilmen Pearson,
Neveaux, Waritz, and Geving. No negative votes. Motion carried.
SARATOGA LANE FI RST AND SECOND ADDITIONS - UTILITI ES AND STREET IMPROVEMENTS: .. The
Council ques ti oned the cityengirieert s invol vement in public improvements·~.:trrs-ta~lled
in private developments. Hansen and Klingelhutz originally petitioned for the city to
install the improvements which could require the city engineer to prepare plans and
specifications. At this time Hansen and Klingelhutz have decided to install the
improvements privately and the city engineer has already completed the plans and
specifications and received bids. The Council will discuss at another meeting the
role of the city engineer in public and private improvement projects.
Councilman Pearson moved to approve the private installation of utilities and street
improvements for Saratoga Lane First and Second Additions as prepared by Schoell and
Madson dated June 24, 1977, upon del i very to the City of a bond in at 1 east the amount
of the contract price. The Council requests a letter from Schoell and Madson
certifying the plans and specifications. Motion seconded by Councilman Neveaux. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Hobbs, Councilmen Pearson, Neveaux, Waritz, and Geving.
No negative votes. Motion carried. .
Councilman Waritz - In this instance the City Council is authorizing the city engineer
to act both as the engineer for the developer and the engineer for the City. This
in no way is meant to set a precedent for this type of thing in the future.
Mayor Hobbs - I feel that the city engineer and Hansen and Klingelhutz did in this
case act prematurely in working together on finalizing plans and specifications for
this project and I hope it won't happen again.
BLUFF CREEK DRIVE - TRAFFIC REGULATIONS: Several res idents were present objecting to
the speed of vehicles and the amount of truck traffic on the street. The Council
decided to leave the 30 MPH speed limit signs as is and requested residents to furnish
City Staff with names of offenders so that the City Manager can write letters to the
vehicle owners. The Maintenance Superintendent will survey the street to see if
there is enough deterioration to warrant posted load limits. The city engineer will
prepare a report on speed bumps and dips for the next Council meeting.
AMBULANCE SERVICE - METHODIST HOSPITAL AND SMITH AMBULANCE: Earl Dre"sser, President
of Methodist Hospital, was present to discuss the budgeted deficit incurred by
Methodist Hospital in providing paramedic ambulance service (a joint effort with
Smith Ambulance) to area communities. This year the program was cut back to 3~
ambulances but even so the expected 1977 deficit will be $144,000. It is anticipated
that a general levy of 58¢ per resident levied by each of the municipalities
benefitting from the paramedic service would provide sufficient monies to off set
deficits arising from costs in excess of reimbursements and allowances for non-
collections. The Council reviewed the program and were favorably impressed with
the service. This request will be considered during the 1978 budgetary process.
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ASSESSMENT APPEAL - PROJECT 75-2, ARTHUR O\-JHNS: Mr. Owens was present reques ti ng
his sewer and water assessments be deferred dur to hardship. Mr. Owens owns
15 acres at 6535 Redman Lane. The City Attorney advised that under State Law, I
the Council cannot change the current year's assessment but that Mr. Owens
could make formal application to the City, under the hardship provision of
the statute, for a deferrment of future year's assessments. The applicant will
have to make a full disclosure of his financial capabilities and a determination
will be made by the Council as to the true necessity of a deferrment on the
basis of hardship. No action was taken.
VARIANCE REQUEST - ELIZABETH NOVAK: Ms. Novak is requesting a frontage variance
in order to build a home on Lots 8, 9, 18 & 19, Block 2, Red Cedar Point.
Currently the property is being assessed two sewer and water units as two
"seasona;" homes exist. It was decided to have the city engineer investigate to
see if Lots 18 and 19 could gain access off Kirkham and if utilities would be
available to these two lots.
Councilman Geving moved to table action until the next meeting. Motion seconded
by Councilman Pearson. The following voted in favor: Mayor Hobbs, Councilmen
Pearson, Neveaux, Waritz, and Geving. No negative votes. Motion carried.
Councilman Pearson moved to adjourn. Motion seconded by Councilman Neveaux. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Hobbs, Councilmen Pearson, Neveaux, Waritz, and
Geving. No negative votes. Meeting adjourned at 11 :45 p.m.
Don Ashworth
City Manager
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