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REGULAR CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING SEPTEMBER 20, 1976
Mayor Klingelhutz called the meeting to order at 8:00 p.m. with the
following members present: Councilmen Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz.
Councilman Hobbs was absent. The meeting was opened with the Pledge to
the Flag.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: A motion was made by Councilman Kurvers and
seconded by Councilman Neveauxto approve the agenda as presented with
the addition of Minn-Kota Arbitration. The following voted in favor:
Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative
votes. Motion carried. ~
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MINUTES: A motion was made by Councilman Kurvers and seconded by
Councilman Waritz to note the September 8, 1976, Planning Commission
minutes. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen
Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Waritz to note the August 19, 1976, Bicentennial Commission minutes.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux,
Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Kurvers and 'seconded by Councilman
Neveaux to note the September 9, 1976, Bicentennial Commission minutes.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux,
Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Kurvers
to note the notes of the Park and Recreation Commission of September 7,
1976. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen
Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
STREET IMPROVEMENTS ~ MINNEWASHTA WOODS: Staff recommended that further
action on a decision to call- the bond be tabled until October 15 to see
of the work is completed as required.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Waritz to extend the deadline until October 15, 1976. If the work is
not completed by that date the Council will take action to call the
bond at the October 18, 1976, Council meeting. The following voted in
favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No
negative votes. Motion carried.
LIQUOR LICENSE ORDINANCE - POSSESSION AND CONSUMPTION IN THE OPEN: The
Council felt that in Ordinance 57A the definition of "public property"
in Section 5.02 should mean any public street, highway, school ground,
playground, stream or other publicly owned property within the City
except parks, lakes and golf courses. Signs will be posted in all liquor
establishments stating that it is a misdemeanor to have in possession
open bottles or glasses of intoxicating beverages on public or semi-
public property.
A motion
to adopt
amended.
Neveaux,
was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Kurvers
Ordinances 2D, 34C, and 57A as presented this evening and as
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, C6uncilmen
Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
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RESOLUTION #76-70: Councilman Neveaux moved the adoption of a resolution
on Review of Intoxicating Liquor Licenses and Non-Intoxicating Malt
Liquor Licenses. Resolution seconded by Councilman Kurvers. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux,
Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
BILLS: A motion was made by Councilman Kurvers and seconded by
Councilman Waritz to approve the August bills as presented with the
change under Street Maintenance, Mobile Radio for radio in truck #109
from $98.17 to $51.12. The following voted in favor: Mayor.!Klingelhutz,
Councilmen Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. ,MQ±ion
carried.
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Councilman Neveaux asked that the Council perhaps consider a full
time city attorney.
LAKE RILEY BOULEVARD - PETITION FOR SANITARY SEWER AND WATER: The
city has received a petition signed by residents along Lake Riley Blvd.
for sanitary sewer and water improvements. Several residents were
present.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Waritz to accept the petition as presented and forward it to the
Planning Commission for review and recommendations. The following
voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux, Kurvers, and
Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
CBD PARKING LOT: Harry Pauly, John Havlik, Bernard Schneider, I
and Dick Dutcher were present. The Bicentennial Commission recommended
that a green area of 130 feet by 70 feet be maintained around the
old village hall. This proposal will land lock the remainder of
the city owned land. Harry Pauly and Ann Koltyk feel this proposal
is unacceptable to them. They are proposing that the city use a
70 foot by 70 foot parcel around the old village hall for the mini
park.
A motion was made by Councilman Kurvers and seconded by Coun,cilman
Neveaux to accept the recommendation of the Bicentennial Commi-s'S:40n
of their dimensions excluding whatever is needed for road entrance
which would be equally split between the two property owners. The
following voted in favor: Councilmen Kurvers and Waritz. Mayor
Klingelhutz and Councilman Neveaux voted no. Motion failed.
Mayor Klingelhutz suggested the proposal be presented to the CBD
Committee and brought back to the Council at the next meeting.
A motion was made by Councilman Kurvers and seconded by Councilman
Waritz that if any type of transaction takes place pertaining to
that property (city property) it shall be a lease agreement. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux,
Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
EAST LOTUS LAKE PRD: Len Swedlund, Rick Sathre, A. H. Michaels, I
Joe Betz, Dick Dutcher, and Chuck Hirt were present. This property
is located on the east side of State Highway 101 and north of
Colonial Grove and is presently zoned R-lA. The Planning Commission
held a public hearing on the proposal and remmmended approval
subject to conditions as outlined in their minutes of August 4,
1976.
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The City Planner gave his report of September 17, 1976, and feels that
the natural qualities of the site, the physical constraints of the site
should dictate the future disposition of the property to the greatest
extent possible. From an idealistic point of view it should be absorbed
as a single family attached, area, single family detached, zero lot
line cluster type of thing. Ecklund and Swedlund do not build this way
and they have made a concerted effort to design in the majority of the
concerns of the MEQC, DNR, Purgatory Creek Watershed District and
city commissions, and he recommended approval of this plan provided the
following points are incorporated into the final development plan.
a. All the concerns of the Soil Conservation Service.
b. All comments of the MEQC except for the 27 foot roadway dedication.
c. All the comments regarding the dedication of shoreland as outlined
in the Ecological Committee's report.
d. All the comments made by the Planning Commission except for the park
area south of Purgatory Creek. The Planner feels the park area should
only include the flood plain of Purgatory Creek and the remainder of the
land be combined with lands in Colonial Grove and developed as a single
family plat. He finds the proposal of a conservation easement as
suggested by the Planning Commission unenforceable. The land should
be dedicated along with 50 or so feet to the city for passive and
active recreation and future construction of a city trail connecting
Purgatory Creek with a park on the north side of Lotus Lake. He feels
this dedication will not only guarantee the integrity of the low land
area but will also add economic value and increase the quality of life
of the people on the interior parcels.
e. All the comments of the city engineer.
f. The Council at this time could waive the provisions of structure
types.
g. The cul-de-sac serving Lots 14, 15, 16, 17, and 18, Block 3, should
be moved eastward to make the lots buildable.
h. The proposed walkway on the northeast side of the hill should be
paved with eight feet of asphalt.
Mr.. Michaels stated they have complied with every request from the
commissions of the city. They can generally go along with all the
Planning Commission recommendations except the question of the setback
on the lake. They can go along with the idea that there be no building
but feel it should be part of the lot of the particular owner and comply
with all the requirements on no building in that 50 foot setback.
Ecklund and Swedlund have been a single family home developer and have
been successful in this field and they feel in analyzing the market
place that this property would develop as a single family area and they
would like to, develop it in accordance with the city ordinance and in
accordance with the Planning Commission recofumèndations.
Rick Sathre, McCombs-Knutson - The conservation easement is a problem for
us in that we too don't like to see the environment harmed
but the thought 6f whether or not a conservation easement
is put across that property when it is not put across other
lake front property maybe unfair but we can live with it.
We can't live with public ownership of that area. The
lakeshore is the only really economically valuable piece of
land there. The public access to that lake we have tried
to grant in the south area. We think that public ownership
of that lake frontage area would not necessarily be more
advantageous to the city if you are considering ecological
problems. The watershed district, the Department of Natural
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resources as well as your own powers, if that conservation
easement were in place, would allow your police actions
to prevent destruction of that area. If that's public, I
however, you will never know who it is that's in-there
littering, destroying, trampling down. It's just a
question in my mind whether or not public ownership
of that area is in the best interest of the city. It
takes away a great deal of property value and puts ~t
under public ownership, therefore the taxes are"decreased
from that piece of land. We would ask that the
Planning commission's recommendations be heeded.
Mr. Michaels - I just reviewed this matter on the trails with Mr.
Swedlund. We can't live or develop this property in
the concept of a trail in the area recommended by the
Planner. We can't develop this property in that
configuration. It is not economically feasible to do so.
We have spent two years on this with various plans.
We are most appreciative of the problems the community
has. I think the developers desires should also be
respected. As we have indicated we will make
available the property for the open space in conjunction
with the homeowners in that area that it won't be
developed except through the various agencies
approval which is required anyway. We urge this
Council to review the Planning Commission's
recommendations and to respect the desires of the
developer. If it is felt that the whole Council is I
needed or further public hearing is desired we have
no objection to following the suggestion of Mr.
Kurvers where preliminary approval is obtained and
public hearing or at least notice to the community
is given with the concept of the developer's
requesting and if there is the kind of opposition
that I don't think will exist, but if there is then
the Council can make the appropriate decisiorrto"
conform with the desires of the citizens of the
community. We are willing to make available a trail
system through the area but we can't do it in that
locale.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Kurvers to table action on this proposal until the October 18 Council
meeting. The following voted in favor~ Mayor Klin0elhutz,
Councilmen Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion
carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Waritz to continue this meeting until September 21, 1976, at 8:00 p.m.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux,
Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Meeting continued at
12:30 a.m.
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Don Ashworth
Clerk-Administrator