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REGULAR CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER 15, 1976
Mayor Klingelhutz called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. with the
following members present: Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz.
The meeting was opened with the Pledge to the Flag.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded
by Councilman Neveaux to approve the agenda as presented. The following
voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers,
and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
MINUTES: A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by
Councilman Waritz to approve the November 1, 1976, Council minutes. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux,
Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
Amend the special Council meeting minutes of November 4, 1976, by
changing the word "Bicentennial" to "Biennial".
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Hobbs
to approve the November 4, 1976,· Council minutes as amended. The
following voted ih favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux,
Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Kurvers and seconded by Councilman Neveaux
to note the October 27, 1976, Planning Commission minutes. The following
voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers,
and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
AWARD OF BIDS - SNOW PLOW: Four bidS were received for a snow plow.
The Administrator recommended the Council accept the low bid of Hayden-
Murphy in the amount of $2,645.00 less the mounting charge of $250.00
for a total net bid of $2,395.00.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Kurvers
to accept the City Administrator's recommendation of November 15, 1976,
in regards to awarding the bid to'Hayden-Murphy in the amount of $2,395.00.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs,
Neveaux, Kurvers, andWaritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
CHAN VIEW - NO PARKING: Councilman Waritz moved the adoption of Ordinance
3-G prohibiting parking on part of Chan View. Motion seconded by
Councilman Neveaux. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz,
Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes.
Motion carried.
BILLS: A motion was made by Councilman Kurversand seconded by Councilman
Waritz to approve the October bills as presented. The following voted
in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers, and
Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, CHURCHES IN R-IA DISTRICT: The Administrator
recommended approval of the ordinance amendment. The City Attorney
recommended the Council delay action until the Council has a definition
of churches.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Kurvers
to table action on the final reading on the Zoning Ordinance amendment
in regard to the allowance of churches in an R-lA District until December
6, 1976. The following-voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen
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Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion
carried.
VARIANCE REQUEST - JOHN SNYDER: Mr. Snyder is requesting a four foot I
front yard variance on his property at 221 Chan View. The Board of
Adjustments and Appeals recommended approval.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Hobbs to approve a four foot front yard variance for John Snyder on
Lot 6, Block 1, st. Hubertus. The following voted in favor: Mayor
Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No
negative votes. Motion carried.
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING
PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS
PAULY/KOLTYK PROPERTY
NOVEMBER 15, 1976, AT 8:15 P.M.
Mayor Klingelhutz called the continuation of public hearing to order
with the following members present: Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers,
and Waritz. Charles Kallestad and Herb Bloomberg were present.
The Administrator reported that staff had met with Harry Pauly and Ann
Koltyk to review the staff recommendation. He came away from that
meeting with the feeling that both felt the staff recommendation
was acceptable although they did have minor questions.
Charles Kallestad - I am not quite clear on how the Koltyk property I
fits in with Pauly's property because it is
my understanding that the Koltyk property has
sufficient parking in itself to qualify under
the existing ordinances. I don't understand
how she got into having to share the whole
thing with Pauly who evidently has a little
tiny piece abutting his property and the
village has the property immediately behind
that. I was told by my manager that they were
proposing to close off the front entrance.
I can't see any valid reason for that.
Mayor Klingelhutz - I guess the thinking on that was the way the
cars were placed in there, there would only
be about 16 feet of space between the last
parking space and that exit onto main street
and that wouldn't be sufficient room for
people to exit out of there.
Don Ashworth - Mr. Kallestad should be aware of one item and that is
that in the approval of the liquor license when the
transfer occurred, that the Council did state at that
time that we wanted to see improvements made in the I
parking area and that if the Pauly/Koltyk proposal
went through that that would totally meet the needs
that there wouldn't be a problem. If that did not
to through then that parking issue would be brought
back up again and it would fall back on yoursèlf.
You may have a contract arrangement where you can go
back on Ann. We recognize that you had the parking
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but we were worried, ât that time, of a long strip of
parking rather than putting the thing in an overall plan.
Charles Kallestad - I don't understand why the exit would be closed off.
Don Ashworth - The staff position was one of the conflict between
pedestrian traffic and vehicular traffic. That is an
area where you do have a number of people walking. In
addition there was a problem of maneuvering ability
with the last row of vehicles. We have attempted to keep
the parking in the rear of the building and discourage
traffic from coming next to the side of the building.
Charles Kallestad - Personally I would be against leaving that thing out
just because of the future right-of-way to. get in
there. I will talk to Ann about that and give her
my view on that and I guess maybe talk to Mr. Pauly.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Neveaux
to close the public hearing. The following voted in favor: Mayor
Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative
votes. Hearing closed at 8:35 p.m.
Don Ashworth
Clerk-Administrator
REGULAR CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER 15, 1976
PAULY/KOLTYK PARKING LOT: Mr. Kallestad will meet with Harry Pauly
to try to resolve the parking lot issue. Council members feel the city
property should be leased for parking purposes.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Neveaux
to table action on this until the first meeting in December but at such
time if there is not representation from all parties concerned or the
problem is not solved the Ci~y will proceed to make this a public parking
lot and assess it against the benefitting properties. The following
voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers,
and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
ECKLUND AND SWEDLUNDPRD: Dick Knutson and Len Swedlund were present.
Council members discussed the joint meeting held with the Planning
Commission and also discussed Revised Sketch Plan F.
Dick Knutson - We got the as built on the sewer information from Schoell
and Madson and the sanitary sewer as it affects the lots
we would request that we would be allowed to fill a small
portion of the marsh so it would be buildable so that we
would have from the st.reet right-of-way back to where the
sewer would be approximately 90 feet. We would have to
do SOme re-arranging of the lots because of where the
sanitary sewer is. We don't see that as a problem as long
as we are able to fill a small amount. This plan is
one that we worked out, it's a small revision to one that
we worked out with the ,staff, with the city attorney about
two months ago, and in it. we could live with this type
of dedication but we would request, if possible, that we
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could build a lagoon that would be hidden from the
shore. That there would be 60 feet of rushes that
would be along the shore as an alternate plan.
This one we'would build tomorrow if it was approved.
The alternate plan presente~ (SketchPlanG revised November 15, 1976)
has six less lots than Sketch Plan F. It has eight lots on the south
side of purgatory Creek and park land on the top of the hill. Council
members generally liked Sketch Plan G and encouraged the developer
to include more lots on the hill instead of the park land.
The Council took no action awaiting staff comments at the first
meeting in December.
1976 ASSESSMENT PROJECTS - SENIOR CITIZEN AND HARDSHIP DEFERRMENT
REQUEST:
JEUNER F. ERNST: Councilman Kurvers moved the adoption of Resolution
#76-85 deferring 50 per cent of the assessment and that the interest
rate on the assessment be the same as that levied on other assessments,
that being 7~ per cent. Resolution seconded by Councilman Neveaux.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs,
Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
EAST LOTUS LAKE - SANITARY SEWER ALTERNATE CONNECTIONS: The City
Attorney reported on his negotiations with the City of Eden prairie
for connection to their sewer line. The Council suggested he
negotiate between $60,000 to $65,000 for ten or 15 years at no
interest so that the present value is $45,000 or less.
EASEMENTS - EAST LOTUS LAKE: The city has received donations of
36 easements and have paid out on 16 easements $5,934.25.
Mr. Danielson submitted a proposal whereby the City would vacate
Baldor Street and a 50 x 150 foot portion of Horseshoe Curve ,in
exchange for his easement. The City Engineer has prepared an~lternate
route for this sewer line which would include house pumps to three
homes instead of a gravity line. Council members feel the street
vacation should not be a consideration in the easement acquisition.
The Council felt that Messrs. Danielson, Ofstie,and Brozovich should
meet and submit proposals to the Council.
A motion was made by Councilman Waritz and seconded by Councilman
Neveaux to table action until further information is forthcoming.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs,
Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
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PUBLIC FACILITIES STUDY COMMITTEE: The City has'received'a request
from st. Hubert's asking for the city's needs or recommendations
relative to usage of the old st. Hubert's Church building. Staff
recommended a study committee be established ,to review potential
usage of this building in addition to potential other uses in the
community. Mary Klingelhutz and Paul O'Dell, committee members I
from St. Hubert's, were present. Councilman Waritz volunteered to
be on this interim committee.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman
Neveaux to direct the City Administrator to prepare a resolution
establishing an interim public facilities study committee and
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advertise for members. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz,
Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes.
Motion carried.
FILL PERMIT - HERBERT BLOOMBERG: During the construction of the East
Lotus Lake Project dirt was placed on a portion of the Bloomberg property.
Staff feels the fill will have to be removed unless the Council acts to
approve a fill permit. Mr. Bloomberg was present requesting approval
of a fill permit.
If the Council determined to allow the fill staff recommended it should
be conditioned upon the following:
1. The applicant pay the fill permit for fill placed to date.
2. No further fill shall occur on the site prior to subdivision of
the property and the conditions established for such.
3. In the event that the fill placed to date is determined to be
incompatible to the city in the eventual subdividing of the area, the
applicant agrees to accept the responsibility of having the material
removed at his own expense.
4. Additional drainage from the fill that has been placed will be
diverted to the north.
5. The applicant agrees to the above conditions in writing.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Hobbs
to grant a fill, permit to Herbert Bloomberg as outlined in the
Administrator's letter of November 15, 1976, with the stipulation that
additional drainage from the fill that has been placed will be diverted
to the north. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz,
Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. Councilman Kurvers abstained.
Motion carried.
TROLLS-GLEN - DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT AMENDMENT: Mrs. Peterjohn was
present requesting a delay in paving the street in Trolls-Glen until
the spring of 1977. Staff recommended denial of the request.
The City Engineer stated this is really a maintenance problem as the
concrete curbs stick up and may be damaged by a snow plow this winter.
The Peterjohns will be responsible for any damage that may occur.
Mrs. Peterjohn stated she recognized this.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Waritz
to approve an amendment to the Development Contract for Trolls~Glen
First Addition delaying the paving until the spring of 1977 with the
condition that the Peterjohns realize the potential problems the city
will have in maintaining those roads over the winter and the fact that
they will be responsible for any damage therefore incurred. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Kurvers,
and Waritz. Councilman Neveaux voted no. Motion carried.
Mayor Klingelhutz called a special meeting for Monday November 22, 1976,
to discuss the 1977 Police Contract.
A motion was made by Councilman Waritz and seconded by Councilman Hobbs
to adjourn. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen
Hobbs, Neveaux, Kurvers, and Waritz. No negative votes. Meeting
adjourned at 12:30 a.m.
Don Ashworth
Clerk-Administrator
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