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REGULAR CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING DECEMBER 6, 1976
Mayor Klingelhutz called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m. with the
following members present: Councilmen Hobbs and Waritz. Councilman
Kurvers was absent. Councilman Neveaux came at 7:40 p.m. The meeting
was opened with the Pledge to the Flag.
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MINUTES: A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman
Waritz to approve the November 10, 1976, Council minutes. The following
voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, CounGilmen Hobbs and Waritz. No
negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Waritz and seconded by Councilman Hobbs
to approve the November 15, 1976, -Regular Council minutes. The following
voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs and Waritz. No
negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Cbuncilman Waritz
to approve the continuation of the November 15, 1976, council meeting
on November 22, 1976, minutes. The following voted in favor: Mayor
Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion
carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Waritz
to note the minutes of ~h~ JQint Planning Commission and Council meeting
of November 30, 1976. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz,
Councilmen Hobbs and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and secQnd.ed by Councilman Waritz
to note the November 29., 1976, Bicentennial Commission minutes. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs and Waritz.
No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Waritz and seconded by Councilman Hobbs
to note the November 10, 1976, Planning Commission minutes. The
following voted in favor:.' Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux,
and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by CouncilmanWaritz
to note the Olmsted Replatting and Zoning Ordinance Amendment Planning
commission, Public Bearings of November 10, 1976. The following voted in
favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. No
negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Waritz
to note the November 16, 1976, Park and Recreation Commiqsion minutes.
.The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobps,
Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Neveaux
to note the November 18, 1976, Ecological Committee minutes. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux,
and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA: A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded
by Councilman Hobbs to approve the agenda as presented with the addition
of Old Village Hall Electrical Bids and Discussion on the Police Contract.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs,
Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
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December 6, 1976
PUBLIC HEARING
FILL PERMIT REQUEST - JOHN FARRELL
DECEMBER 6, 1976, AT 7:45 P.M.
Mayor Klingelhutz called the public hearing to order. The following I
persons were present:
Merrill Steller, 1931 Crestview Drive
Henry Tuelson, Box 414, Mound
Edgar Luedtke,· 1800 West 67th Street
Richard Pearson, 7307 Frontier Trail
R. P. Brozovich, 6609 Horseshoe Curve
Harry Pauly, Chanhassen
Mr. and Mrs. WillJohn~on, 1660 West 63rd Street
Michael H. Olund, 1511 Lake Lucy Road
Warren E. Phillips, 1571 Lake Lucy Road
John C. Farrell, Excelsior
Craig Mertz
Bill Brezinsky
Bill Schoell
The City Manager gave a report. Staff recommended approval with the
following conditions:
1. All fill shall be placed in accordance with the profiles and
cross-sections submitted by the applicant.
2. Culverts as proposed by the applicant shall be installed in
accordance with the application and as specified by the City Engineer;
further, such culverts shall be maintaineð by the applicant.
3. Seed and mulch or sod shall be completed on the side slopes within
time limits as required by the Engineer. I
4. The City shall be notified within 48 hours prior tò commencement
of construction. Construction techniques shall be approved by the
City Engineer.
5. The Department of Natural Resources shall approve the proposed
pro] ec"t. . .
6. Escrow monies deposited by the applicant shall be kept by the
City to insure compliance with the conditions herein stated until
the project has been completed and approved by the City Engineer;
at which time remaining funds shall be returned to the applicant.
7. The owner and applicant agrees to the above conditions in writing.
The properti is located adjacent to Lake Lucy with a 33 foot strip
of land connecting the parcel to Lake Luch Road. Mr. Farrell wants
to build a home on the property.
A letter was received from Jim Mielke stating his concern about the
dralnage and possible flooding of his property. He suggested a culvert
be placed about 150 feet south of Lake Lucy Road. Mr. ~arrell does
show in his plans a culvert in that location. The Engineer feels
generally that the drainage, location of the culverts, capacity
of the culverts will be adequate and recommended the fill application
be subject to engineer approval of the installation, location
and size, and grade of all drainage structures on ~he proper~y.
Warren Phillips - I have the property just to the east of the road
right-of-way. Mr. Farrell and I have discussed
this a number of times. I really have no objection
to a road going in and fill going in. I should
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Mr. Farrell stated he could live with all the conditions setforth.
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attention that my prop~rty just south of Lake Lucy.
Road is low as is Mr. Mielke's. That property is
drained. There is a drainage tile there. I am sorry
I don't know where it's located. We know where it
comes out at the lake. It goes under the right-óf-
way to the west and then south to the lake. I would
also be concerned that that drainage tile be
maintained and not damaged because in years when we
have heavy rains in the spring that tile döes flow
a good volume of water draining that area. That is
a concern we have. It would seem desirable if the
road could be straightened and run along the section
line it would be an improvement of a permanent nature.
Merrill Steller - I am personal representative for my father, Roy
Steller, who passed away and we own the property west
of the right-of":'way. Is this going to be about level
with Lake Lucy Road all the way in?
John Farrell - It's going to varying levels of fill anywhere from seven
feet to as low as three feet. I want to make it more
accessible to vehicles.
Merrill Steller - You are not going to be excavating. If that isn't
interrupted at all I don't have any objection to the
fill.
Bill Brezinsky - I suggest that we try to locate the drain tile.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Neveaux
to close the public hearing. The following voted in favor: Mayor
Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative votes.
Hearing closed at 7:55 p.m.
Don Ashworth
City Manager
REGULAR CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING DECEMBER 6, 1976
FILL PERMIT REQUEST - JOHN FARRELL: The Council felt the following
condition should be added to the fill permit: An effort be made to
locate the drain tile so that it would not be damaged in any way.
A motion was made by Counéilmah" Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Waritz
to approve the Fill Permit request for John Farrell according to the
reêömme:ndations··ag~·.setfOrth by the City Manager in' his letter of December
6, 1976, as amended this evening. The following voted in favor: Mayor
Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative votes.
Motion carried.
PAULY/KOLTYK PARKING LOT: Harry Pauly and Ann Koltyk were present.
Staff feels that public control of the project is required and recommended
a public hearing be set on January 10, 1977, to consider the parking lot
development plan as prepared by the city and presented on November 1, 1976.
Harry Pauly stated he had to problems with the.lavout of the plan. He
does not agree with the cost figures for leasing' the parking lot from the
city. He would rather purchase the property.
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Amotion was made by Councilman Waritz and seconded by Councilman
Neveaux to direct staff to meet with Harry Pauly and Ann Koltyk to
negotiate the terms of the lease as setforth in items 3a and 3b of
the staff report of November 1, 1976, and report back to the Council I
by December 20, 1976. The following voted in favor: Mayor
Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative votes.
Motion carried~
DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT REQUEST - OLSON: Mr. and Mrs. Al Olson were
present. The Engineer recommended a swale be constructed between
Lots 14 and 15, Block 1, Greenwood Shores to handle the drainage
problem. The estimated cost would be $1,200. This could be a public
improvement project or be done by agreement with the neighbors.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Hobbs to table action on this until staff meets with the parties
involved and reports back to the Council. The following voted in
favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz.
No negative votes. Motion carried.
EAST LOTUS LAKE - EASEMENT ACQUISITION: The Danielsons and
were present. Due to the cost of the easements the Council
an alternate sewer route and the use of three house pumps.
recommended the alternate route using house pumps.
Brozovichs
is considering
Staff
Mr. Brozovich stated he would be willing to drop his easement
acquisition cost by $1,000.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman I
Neveaux that the Council will not,as a part of the Lotus Lake Sewer
project,consider the vacation of any part of Baldur Avenue or
Horseshoe Curve as setforth in the initial Danielson easement demand.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs,
Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Hobbs to authorize Russell Larson to negotiate further on these
easements and bring back a final proposal by December 20, 1976.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs,
Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
ECKLUND AND SWEDLUND PRD: Len Swedlund and Ric Sathre were present.
Staff recommended approval of Plan G conditioned upon the developer
securing necessary permits to cross Purgatory Creek from the Watershed
District and approval from the DNR to dredge out the lagoon. In
addition, staff feels the lots on the hill should be closed and only
sufficient room for a pedestrian trail be in there. The trail should
be defined. The bridge and trail cross-section be coupled with the
dredging of the lagoon if approved by DNR.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Hobbs that the Council accept Sketch Plan G as modified this evening
by the City Planner to coincide with his report of December 3, 1976,
and that the approval of the plat not be necessarily subject to lagoon
dredging approval by the DNR. The following voted in favor: Mayor
Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative
votes. Motion carried.
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City Council Meeting December 6, 1976
DEMOLITION PERMIT -SCHROEDER HOUSE: A motion was made by Councilman
Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Neveaux that this item be indefinitely
tabled. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen
Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT - JOHN ENOCHSON:
RESOLUTION #76-94: Councilman Neveaux moved the adoption of a resolution
entitled Vacation of the Enochson Easement Number 18, Project 9058-C.
Councilman Hobbs seconded the resolution. The following voted in favor:
Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative
votes. Motion carried.
LOT SUBDIVISION - WARD OLMSTED: Mr. and Mrs. Tom Wright, Mr. and Mrs.
Charles Erickson, and Mr. and Mrs. Ward Olmsted were present. The Olmsteds
are requesting permission to subdivide approximately 92,225 square feet
into two residential lots. The property is lœated on the north shore
of Lake Minnewashta just west of Minnewashta Heights and is zoned R-l.
The two proposed lots meet or exceed the minimum standards of the ordinance
plus the Shoreland Management Act. The property is land locked and
the re-subdivision will create two lots without frontage on a public
street. The Subdivision Ordinance requires all new lots must front on
a public street. The Council maý grant a variance if they find that
by:
a. Reason of topography or other physical conditions strict
compliance with the requirements of the Subdivision Ordinance
could cause an exceptional and undue hardship to the enjoyment
of a substantial property right;
b. Provided, however, the variance does not adversely affect the
comprehensive plan; and
c. Provided the variance does not adversely affect the spirit
and intent of the Subdivision Ordinance.
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on November 10, 1976, and
recommended approval of a variance. Staff supported the Planning Commission
recommendation.
Mr. Wright and Mr. Erickson voiced their objections to the proposed
subdivision.
A motion was made by Councilman Waritz and seconded by Councilman Hobbs
to table action on this until the second meeting in January. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux,
and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
EAST LOTUS LAKE - SANITARY SEWER ALTERNATE CONNECTIONS: A motion was
made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Waritz to table action
until next Monday evening December 13, 1976. The following voted in favor:
Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative
votes. Motion carried.
PLANNING COMMISSION REPRESENTATIVES: A motion was made by Councilman
Neveaux and seconded QV Councilman Hobbs to accept the recommendations
of the PlanningC¢~ission to appoint Dick Dutcher to the Ecological
Committee and Roman RODS to the Board of Adjustments and Appeals. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux,
and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion carried.
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OLD VILLAGE HALL ELECTRICAL BIDS: The Bicentennial Commission has
taken bids on the electrical. The following bids were received:
Rome Electric - $1,180.00
Robb Electric - $1,382.00
Frontier Electric - $1,300.00
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Waritz to accept the low bid of Rome Electric in the amount of
$1,180.00. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz,
Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz. No negative votes. Motion
carried.
COMMUNITY FACILITIES INTERIM COMMITTEE: A motion was made by
Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Hobbs to direct the City
Manager to seek nominations of members to the Community Facilities
study Group from the appropriate commissions. The following voted
in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz.
No negative votes. Motion carried.
1977 POLICE CONTRACT: Councilman Hobbs at the request of Commissioner
Holtmeier discussed the county policing and budget. Action will be
taken next Monday evening December 13, 1976.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded
Neveaux to adjourn. The following voted in favor:
Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, and Waritz.
votes. Meeting adjourned at 12:30 a.m.
by Councilman
Mayor
No negative
Don Ashworth
City Manager
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