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1975 06 12 I I I , PUBLIC HEARING CARVER BEACH SEWER, WAT-ER, AND STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT 75-2 JUNE 12, 1975, AT 7:30 P.M. Mayor Klingelhutz called the public hearing to order with the following members present: Councilmen Hobbs and Shulstad. Councilman Neveaux came late. Councilman Kurvers was absent. Approximately 100 interested people were present. The City Administrator read the official notice as published in the Carver County Herald. Bill Schoell gave the presentation. Maps were presented showing the location of the sewer and wateLmain, number of units to be assessed, division of lots as to ownership. This project will serve all of Carver Beach east and west, also provides trunk sewer capacity to serve future Greenwood Shores area. In this project also because part of the sewer line has to flow north to the north service area is property along Powers Blvd. The southern part of east Carver Beach will flow southward and terminate at Highway 101 near The Meadows Apartments. A part of this project is connecting up to the Sunrise Hills and Frontier Trail Lift Stations to a new force main. The purpose of that is to remove some overloading that occurs now during peak times. The primary sources of water will be Wells #1 and #2. The secondary source will be Well #3. All roads will be restored to a condition superior to what they are now. The improvement will be to a 7 ton basis. The width desirably will be a minimum of 22 feet and a maximum of 26 feet but iIlsome cases there isn't room for even 22 feet so that might be reduced tQ l8·~eet. The areas not in roadways where construction occurs will be rèplaced either with sod in improved areas or with seed in unimprov~d areas. The total cost of the project is appro~imately $1,715,000. The City Engineer illustrated the unit methodóf assessing this project. Each presently developable property or any existing home no matter what size lot it is on would be assessed one unit. As for the undeveloped property the size of the units will be the same as the Carver Beach Study that iSi a minimum of 15,000 square feet and 90 feet of frontage in West Carver Beach and 10,500 square feet minimum with 63 feet of frontage in East Carver Beach. The total number ofèútlÍ ts is 310. This total is not including lots that are under the minimum size. The cost per unit is $5,370. If the minimum lot size in West Carver Beach was reduced to 11,700 square feet and East Carver Beach reduced to 8,190 square feet this would result in 17 additional units. If there were small parcels side by side in different ownerships these might be combined at a future time in one ownership to make one potential building site. Each small parcel could be assessed 1/2 unit. This would add 28 units. Phil Chenoweths, City Fiscal Consultant, explained that the actual assessment costs will be based on the final bids are taken and final costs are in. Another assessment hearing will be held at that time before levies are made against the different properties. Under the present Public Hearing Minutes June 12, 1975 City policy you would have 15 years to pay this back,with interest on the unpaid balance. This is a project that can be flnan~ed and,could be sold. There is the possibility of some federal agencles ~U¥l~g the bonds at a much lower rate than the market ra~e and the l?ossl~lllty of grant applications. These will be looked lnto upon dlrectlon from the Council. -2- I Russell Larson, City Attorney, stated ~he peol?le in ?reenwo~d ~hores and Christmas Lake were notified of thls publlc hearlng as It lS necessary by State Law because they are all within a.poten~ial ~runk sewer system and if as a part of this project, if thls proJect lS, approved, or as a part of some future project a trunk,assess~ent lS levied against them they have to receive notice of thls hearlng. The methods of assessing as outlined by Bill Schoell, ~amely unit assessing, meets legal criteria. The matter of deferrlng assessments on unplatted or land which is not now developed als~ ~as been al?proved in Chanhassen. We are not now at a point of determlnlng how,thls , project might be assessed if in fact the Council authorizes It and dlrects it to go ahead. Mayor Klingelhutz informed everyone that the City has received complete copies of the petitions for or against with copies of the letters that were sent. These will be taken into consideration when the Council makes a decision. A petition was received this evening from persons who will not be assessed in this project but the proposed force main will go along their property. The hearing was opened for public comment. I Robert M. Bowen, Christmas Lake - I own Lots 2, 3, and 4, Crane's Vineyard Park, proposed to be assessed in the Carver Beach Improvement Project. This same land was all assessed in 1973 payable commencing in 1974 on the north area water improvement. I am already connected to the sewer. There is no need for more sewer along County Road 17 between my property and that of Mr. Loris. Mr. Bowen left his statement with Mayor Klingelhutz. Robert Petersen, 6650 Powers - He presented a map showing the location of persons who signed the petition against the project. Sixty-six percent of the people living in the area signed the petition. He read excerpts from the Reader's Digest June issue entitled "How Safe is Your Drinking Water. II You obviously know I am against the installation of sewer and water. Gene Coulter, " 7550 Great Plains Blvd. - We are interested in Auditor's Subdivision #2 which would be the force main. We would hope the Council and Engineers would consult us as to where it will go and would be best suited for us. We realize that we would not be assessed for it. What happens to the Lift Station on Frontier Trail? I - At the present time we are studying two or three alternat ~s The exact location of the force main is not tied down. That lift station will stay there but it will pump into . the force main to eliminate the over loading south of the lift station. Bill Schoell I I I Public Hearing Minutes June 12, 1975 -3- Stan Tarnowski, 7405 ~rontier Trail - I am under the understanding that the force main will go along the lakeshore and I would have the Council reconsider that portion because there would be a lot of trees destroyed and the terrain of the land I would think would wash down into the lake. Bill Schoell - Anytime construction takes place the ground is replaced preferably better than it was. The exact route of the force main is not that critical. The line can be moved around to eliminate the necessity to take trees. The exact route is still under study. George Priede tis, 7401 Frontier Trail - How can you replace 60 - 70 year old trees? Bill Schoell - If there is no relatively economical alternate line it is sometimes necessary to take trees. The property owners are compensated for the value of them. Bill Brezinsky - The force main would be seven feet deep. The width of the trench would be about 15 feet. A force main can be angled around the trees it doesn't have to go in a straight line. Harold Hegberg, 7415 Frontier Trail - About eight years ago I gave an easement for water and sewer to the City. The City couldn't find the records so they crossed my property 100 feet down six feet off the easement and took out 5 inch maple trees and lilac bushes. This was a year ago and nothing has been replaced. I would like to know what is going to be done about this. Let's take care of first things first and then talk about another easement. Gene Coulter - What will be the size of the permanent easement for the force main? Bill Brezinsky - It will be 15 feet. The working easement would probably be 30 feet. Bill Janich, 6777 Carver Beach Road - How were these units acquired? Bill Brezinsky - We tried to delineate the portions of Carver Beach that were unbuildable. First we located these from an aerial photo and then we went out in the field. Dean Nelson, 6721 Kiowa - area who are ADC is 23.7. will have to The percentage of people living in the proposed unemployed or on social security or receiving The people who are working and paying taxes pay for those people who cannot pay. Mike Niemeyer, 6798 Huron - I am not convinced yet that sewer and water are necessary to the area. Taking the number of dwelling units versus acres we have an average in the Carver Beach area of 1.5 dwelling units per acre which does not seem to necessarily indicate that sewer is necessary at this time. It is obvious that a good portion of the 88 acres is not developed at this time. In the area that is developed there is 3.8 dwelling units per acre. There are several exotic and several more practical means of handling the sewage other than a public sewer system. At this time they are not legal in this part of Minnesota and there would have to be special ordinances to allow Public Hearing Minutes June 12, 1975 -4- them. If you are going to handle the question of pollution it may be better to try and handle it at a central point rather than trying to handle it .at each individual house I throughout the entire county. The question of fire protection is very important. We have an area that is accessible only by two roads which was shut down for a time this last winter. It seems to me that if we are going to bring in a fire rig it might be better to have a hydrant in the area. There are 196 landowners in the area. Karen Mareno, 6795 Carver Beach Road - I am in favor of bringing in sewer water and roads into the area. I think the roads are needed. Development was started in 1927 and wells were put in with two inch pipe. People who have those type of wells now find themselves unable to repair them and a new well has to be put in. Some people have had to make major expenses to repair their cesspools. You have to look at that in terms of how many people that might be affecting in the future. How many people might be finding themselves having to put major expenses into those items which could be paid towards an assessment. Not all people who are unemployed are against the project, my husband has been laid off since February. I am employed. Ken Erickson, 7203 Frontier Trail - I am not for or against the sewer and water in Carver Beach. I am greatly disappointed in the fact that the whole system has to be torn up in front I of our place. I am still not satisfied with the way my property was restored. John Johnson, 6690 Laredo Drive - What kind of recourse do we have if things are not restored? Bill Schoell - You can contact the Engineer's Office or one of the field offices. Inspectors are always on the job. Fact sheets are supplied on each job telling approximately when the work will take place in your area, giving you two stages to indicate where your sewer service will go or water service will go. The inspector will then ask you if you need any help in determining where these should be. You should define what restoration you want when you sign the easement. ~ Bob Amick, 605 West 70th'Street - I wrote a letter mentioning three possible aids that I found that could possibly help the residents. 1. Green Acres Law - It allows senior citizens meeting certain standards to defer payments on hardship assessments. 2. Grant and Loan Program available through U. S. Department of Agriculture Farmers Home Administration. 3. U. S. Department of Housing and Urban Development's community Development Block Grant. I Gene Coulter - We would like some imput on the force main. I I I Public Hearing Minutes June 12, 1975 -5- Mayor Klingelhutz thanked everyone for coming. The Council will consider all the statements made this evening. A motion was made by Councilman Shulstad and seconded by Councilman Hobbs to adjourn the public hearing. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Shulstad, and Neveaux. No negative votes. Hearing adjourned at 9: 30 p.m. ~~~ Barry Books Clerk-A inistrator