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REGUL~R CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL MEETING JULY 7, 1975
Mayor Klingelhutz called the regular Council meeting to order at 8:00
p.m. with the following members present: Councilmen Neveaux, Shulstad,
and Kurvers. Councilman Hobbs came late. The meeting was opened with
the Pledge to the Flag.
MINUTES: A motion was made by Councilman Shulstad and seconded by
Councilman Neveaux to approve the public hearing minutes on Carver
Beach Sanitary Sewer and Water of June 12, 1975. The following voted
in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux, and Shulstad.
Councilman Kurvers abstained. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Kurvers to approve the special Council minutes of June 23, 1975. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux,
Shulstad, and Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Shulstad and seconded by Councilman
Kurvers to note the June 11, 1975, Planning Commission minutes. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaix, Shulstad,
and Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion
Shulstad
minutes.
Neveaux,
was made by Councilman Kurvers and seconæd by Councilman
to note the June II, 1975, Planning Commission Public Hearing
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen
Shulstad, and Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion carried.
The Planning Commission is advised to correct their minutes of June II,
1975, to reflect what is required by Ordinance 28.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Shulstad to note the June 25, 1975, Planning Commission minutes. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux, Shulstad,
and Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion
Shulstad
minutes.
Neveaux,
was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
to note the June 17, 1975, Park and Recreation Commission
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen
Shulstad, and Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Kurvers and seronded by Councilman
Neveaux to note the June 19, 1975, Lake Study Committee minutes. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Neveaux,
Shulstad, and Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion carried.
It is the feeling of the Council that the Lake Study Committee should
make recommendations to the Park and Recreation Commission and the
Park and Recreation Commission report to the Council. Their minutes
should be forwarded through the Park and Recreation Commission. The
Lake Study Committee has requested. the City Attorney find out who owns
the access next to Leach's Resort on Lake Minnewashta.
A motion was made by Councilman Shulstad and seconded by Councilman
Neveaux that the City Attorney be authorized to investigate the ownership
of the land in question on Lake Minnewashta as identified by the Lake
Study Committee. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz,
Councilmen Neveaux, Shulstad, and Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion
carried.
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Councilman Neveaux stated that perhaps the Council should go back to
the minutes last summer or fall where the Council authorized the
formation of this committee and to review with the Committee people
the charge they were given when they were organized as to what their I
duties should be and what kinds of information and reports that they
were looking for. It was more of a long term projected approach to tRe
lake problems of the City; overall lake use, water surface use, what
lakes we should look at as being accessible lakes and if we determined
that they are accessible lakes where these accesses should be and to
what extent they should be developed and how we are going to fit that
kind of improvement into the overall City Budget. This is what I would
like to talk to the Lake Study Committee about.
PROPOSED 75-2 PROJECT: The Administrator has looked into the Farmers
Home Administration to find out if funds are available and found they
have not done this type of thing in a suburban area recently but would
review an application. The HUD Office in Minœapolis is rejecting all
applications for mortgages where neither sewer or water are available.
If one utility is available they will review an application.
Mayor Klingelhutz asked how much of a problem would it be to include
Greenwood Shores in a project like this?
Bill Schoell stated that because we had to provide trunk capacity for
Greenwood Shores in this project we did make some study of the area.
It would be no problem to include the area in this project.
RESOLUTION # 7 5-12: Councilman Hobbs. ; moved the adoption of a resolution
authorizing Carver Beach Sanitary Sewer and Water Imp~ovementProject
75-2. Resolution seconded by Councilman Kurvers. The following
voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux,
Shulstad, and Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion carried.
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RESOLUTION #75-13: Councilman Shulstad moved the adoption of a resolution
authorizing a public hearing August 20, 1975, at 7:30 p.m. in the ,;
Chanhassen Elementary School to consider the outfall for the Carver
Beach Sanitary Sewer from Sunrise Hills Lift Station along the shoreline
of Lotus Lake or alternatives #1 and #2 along Frontier Trail as proposed
by the City Engineer dated June 20, 1975. Resolution seconded by
Councilman Hobbs. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz,
Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Shulstad, and Kurvers. No negative votes.
Motion carried.
CARVER BEACH ACCESS TO LOTUS LAKE: Mr. Duane Shodeen, DNR Regional
Fisheries Manager and Ron Harnak, Division of Waters were present.
About three weeks ago the posts were pulled out and the chain taken down
on the Carver Beach access.
Mr. Shodeen stated that by law they cannot stock or restock fish in a
lake that does not have free access and use. The access on Lotus Lake
being restricted during the summer months in one form still constitutes
a public access but in terms of my priority on fish management its I
going to receive such a low priority that for all practical purposes
it will receive no fish management. The lake is somewhat unique it
is a headwater lake and that does lend itself to some potential fish
management practices that don't apply to obher bodies of water.
The lake is a public body of water every citizen of this community
and the state has equal rights to use the surfaces of Lotus Lake. We
have plans to install a fish barrier on the downstream outlet which will
not be done.
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Ron Harnak stated the problems of public accesses is the availability
öf land upon which to purchase and construct an access. The money is
there to bÜild it and buy it but first you have tö find somebody willing
to sell the land. He recommended water surface zoning. TheDNR will
construct the access· and try to workout some type of garbage pickup
or maintenance arrangement with the local unit of government.
The City Planner asked if the DNR was to go in on a joint project with
the City to construct a new access to Lotus Lake would the DNR help
the City to size the access so that it would properly serve the surface
uses of the lake and what are the locational criteria for a boat access
and what is the appropriate size?
Ron Harnak - When sites are purchased we generally look for a five acre
site not that the entire five acres is developed into a parking area.
Less areas can be considered. We tend to think it would be better to
come off a major arterial street.
Duane Shodeen - The five acres does not all have to be developed as a
parking lot. It would be the best long term solution to zone the surface
use of lakes in the City.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Neveaux
to direct the Sheriff to patrol the Carver Beach access every two hours
and issue parking tickets when necessary an d also request as much
water patrol from the Carver County Sheriff as possible on Lotus Lake.
The Council requests a report from the Police Department on the
feasibility of "No Parking" signs on Iroquois and an opinion on "No
Parking Tow Away Zone" signs. The following voted in favor: Mayor
Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Shulstad, and Kurvers.No
negative votes. Motion carried.
PROJECT 74-lA: Mr. Charles Towle and Leslie Renner were present. Craig
Mertz, Assistant City Attorney, stated the City Attorney has written to
the Attorney General asking what kind of vote by the City Council was
necessary to authorize this project a 3/4 vote or 4%5 vote. Minnesota
Statutes provide that if the improvement is petitioned for by owners
of not less than 35% of the frontage abutting on streets named in the
petition a simple 3/5 vote is necessary. The Attorney General has
ruled that 35% of the owners abutting on the street have signed the
petition.
Leslie Renner - I am in favor of this additional taxation on it in order
to get this project off the ground.
Mr. Towle - I would like to ask that the Council approve the resolution
subject to· the lawsuit being dropped by Mr. Ward.
RESOLUTION #75-14: Councilman Neveaux moved the adoption of a
resolution authorizing Storm Sewer and Street Imp~ovement Project 74-lA.
Resolution seconded by Councilman Shulstad. The following voted in
favor: Mayor Klingelhutz ,Councilmen Neveaux, and Shulstad·. Councilman
Hobbs voted no. Councilman Kurvers abstained. Motion carried.
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HANSEN AND KLINGELHUTZ PRELIMINARY PRD: Doug Hansen, Tom Klingelhutz,
and Jim Hawks were present. This property on Laredo Drive was previously
approv·ed for 34townhbuses. They now propose 21 single fàmily homes on
the five acre piece. There are no driveways ontò Laredo Drive. There
are six double frontage lots which will be screened along Laredo Drive
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by using fencing, berms, and plantings. Drainage is from the southwest
to northeast. The net density is four units per acre. The lots range
in size from 6,600 square feet to 15,000 square feet. A particular hOUSI
design has been indicated for each lot with the understanding that
that particular house or one of the same dimensions will be on each
lot. The plans are structures so there are facilities for a double
attached garage for each home. The houses will range in price from
$35,000 to $55,000 totally built.
Bill Schoell - The drainage they have within the subdivision is entirely
adequate. The problem is in Lot 12 downstream from Frontier Trail.
I don't fully agree with the 45 foot radius in the cul-de-sac. It gives
you a five foot boulevard. I would rather have a 50 foot radius on the
cul-de-sac and the Council allow the developer to reduce the front yard
setback by five feet.
Bruce pankonin - The Planning Commission held a public hearing June 11
to consider this proposed PRD and recommended approval with condition~.
Russell Larson - I note that one of the techniques of development was
to provide for deferral of rear sodding. I question whether or not this
will land itself to an erosion or runoff possibility. An alternative
might be that black dirt be put back on those rear lots and that rye
grass be seeded to hold the soil until the landowner can finish it.
In the presentation they petitioned for public improvements by special
assessment. The Council should consider this. This would be part of
the development contract.
The park land has been dedicated. The deed will be sent to the City I
Attorney.
A motion was made by Councilman Shulstad and seconded by Councilman Kurvers
to approve the preliminary plat subject to preparation and approval of
a development contract and the financing for public improvements and
subject to the recommendations of the Planning Commission as set forth
in the City Planner's report of July 1, 1975. The following voted in
favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Shulstad, and
Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion carried.
PRELIMINARY PLAT TROLLS-GLEN: Mrs. Peterjohn and Dan Herbst were present.
Dan Herbst gave the presentation. They are asking preliminary approval
for eleven lots on 5~ acres and two outlots. The outlots will be
controlled by a homeowners association. Mrs. peterjohn will continue
to negotiate with Mr. penke for a road to Minnewashta Parkway.
The City Attorney has reviewed the covenants and restrictions and by-
laws and generally find them acceptable. The contract would have to
be entered into by Mr. and Mrs. Bunger because they are contract vendors
of the property.
The City Planner stated the Planning Commission held the public hearing
for rezoning and preliminary plat. The Council has acted on the I
rezoning. All requirements of the Planning Commission have been met.
A motion was made by Councilman Hobbs and seconded by Councilman Kurvers
to approve the preliminary plat subject to the preparation and
approval of a development contract for Trolls-Glen First Addition. The
following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux,
and Kurvers. Councilman Shulstad voted no. Motion carried.
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GARY CARLSON PETITION FOR CITY WATER: Mr. Carlson has petitioned the
City to extend water to his new home in Schmid's Acres. Mr. Carlson will
carry the whole burden of the assessment.
The City Engineer recommended that watermain be extended up to 50 feet
north of the southeast corner of his property and suggested that if
Mr. Carlson pay the whole cost that the excess be given him as a credit
on his sewer assessment on the property he owns on the east side of the
cartway.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman Hobbs
to approve Gary Carlson's petition to extend City Water to his
property as setforth in Schoell and Madson's letter of July 3, 1975.
The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz, Councilmen Hobbs,
Neveaux, Shulstad, and Kurvers. No negative votes. Motion carried.
A motion was made by Councilman Neveaux and seconded by Councilman
Hobbs to adjourn. The following voted in favor: Mayor Klingelhutz,
Councilmen Hobbs, Neveaux, Shulstad, and Kurvers. No negative votes.
Meeting adjourned at 1:10 a.m.
Barry B::i-?f~/j7.rYk,,4
Clerk-Administrator