6 Subdivision/Am. Legion Post
P.C. DATE: 2-19-02
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEH
C.C. DATE: 3-11-02
REVIEW DEADLINE: 3-15-02
CASE: 02-3 Sub & 02-2 SPR
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STAFF REPORT
PROPOSAL:!)
Site Plan Approval for a 7,822 square foot Private Club (American Legion
Post 580)
Subdivision of 5.584 acres into two lots
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LOCATION:
South of Highway 5, East of Great Plains Boulevard, and north of the Citgo
Gas Station.
APPLICANT :
Chanhassen Post #580
American Legion Housing Corporation
P.O. Box 303
Chanhassen, MN 55317
(952)467-3455
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ACREAGE:
5.58 acres
SUMMARY OF REQUEST: Subdivision of 5.584 acres into 2 lots. Site Plan Review for a
7,822 square foot Private Club.
Notice of this public hearing has been mailed to all property owners within 500 feet.
LEVEL OF CITY DISCRETION IN DECISION-MAKING:
The City's discretion in approving or denying a preliminary plat is limited to whether or not the
proposed plat meets the standards outlined in the Subdivision Regulations and Zoning
Ordinance. If it meets these standards, the City must approve the preliminary plat. This is a
quasi-judicial decision
The City's discretion in approving or denying a site plan is limited to whether or not the
proposed project complies with Zoning Ordinance requirements. If it meets these standards, the
City must then approve the site plan. This is a quasi-judicial decision.
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PROPOSAL~UMMARY
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There are two actions being requested with this application - a subdivision and a site plan review
for a private club containing a restaurant with a liquor license. The site is zoned BN, Business
Neighborhood District, and Private Clubs are permitted in this district. The site is bordered by
Highway 5 to the north, Great Plains Boulevard to the west, Citgo Gas Station and strip mall to
the south and Northcott Headquarters to the east. The lot area is 5.58 acres. The Hwy. 5 Overlay
District applies to the site. The site is visible directly from Highway 5. It has full access from
Lake Drive East and a right in/out only from Great Plains Boulevard. (The access issue will be
discussed in detail in the street section of the staff report).
The site plan is for a private club (American Legion Post 580). The site plan is reasonably well
developed. The building is situated parallel to Highway 5 and is proposed to utilize rock face
block in a three-color blend, and fiber cement siding as the main materials. Accents are provided
through the use of EIFS columns, medallions, and a band that raps around the entire building
(samples will be provided at the meeting). The one issue dealing with the materials relate to
color. The accent medallion does not provide any contrast from the columns and the fiber
cement siding. Staff discussed changing the color of the medallion and the applicant agreed with
staff's suggestion and is willing to make the change. The second building on the site will appear
before the City for a site plan application at a later date and is intended to be a clinic (Park
Nicollet). It is shown on the plans as a concept only.
Parking for vehicles is located south and west between the two buildings. A main drive aisle,
running east/west, runs along the southern portion of the site, and parking lots are located mainly
along the north side of this drive aisle. One row of parking (on the future Park Nicollet site) is
located south ofthe dri ve isle.
Staff has been working with the applicant for several months. They have been very cooperative
and have implemented staff's recommendations into the plans. The buildings hide the majority
of the parking lot and the portion that abuts Highway 5 is screened by a combination of berms
and landscaping. The berm has an average height of 4 feet above the parking lot. Some
additional landscaping will be required to meet minimum ordinance requirements. A second
point that staff discussed with the applicant revolved around the number of parking spaces
required. The two users proposed shared parking. Staff had no objection to this alternative. In
fact we encourage shared parking. However, we asked the applicant to provide a parking study
supporting their request. The parking study, which was conducted by Benshoof and Associates,
Inc., concluded that the number of parking spaces provided on-site will be able to accommodate
the expected future parking demand for both land uses.
A pedestrian trail runs along Lake Drive East and connects with the pedestrian bridge, which
runs across Highway 5. Staff discussed a sidewalk that runs north/south, through the Legion
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parking lot and connect the building with the sidewalk on Lake Drive East. The applicant
introduced a sidewalk that runs between the Legion and future clinic site.
Staff regards the project as a reasonable use of the land. Based upon the foregoing, staff is
recommending approval of the site plan, and subdivision requests for this proposal.
SUBDIVISION
The applicant is requesting preliminary plat approval to replat 5.584 acres into two lots. The site
is zoned BN, Neighborhood Business District and is located south of Highway 5, east of Great
Plains Boulevard, and north of the Citgo Gas Station.
Lot 1 is proposed to be the future site of a clinic (Park Nicollet). Lot 2 will house the American
Legion.
The ordinance states that "All lots shall abut for their full required minimum frontage on a public
street as required by the zoning ordinance; or be accessed by a private street; or a flag lot which
shall have a minimum of thirty feet offrontage on a public street."
Lot 2, has frontage on Highway 5 and therefore meets the intent of the ordinance and is not a
landlocked parcel.
Access on the other hand is gained from Lake Drive East via a private street and a cross access
agreement between the two properties. Private streets are permitted in this district if the following
conditions exist:
· The prevailing development pattern makes it unfeasible or inappropriate to construct a public
street. In making this determination the city may consider the location of existing property
lines and homes, local or geographic conditions and the existence of wetlands.
· After reviewing the surrounding area, it is concluded that an extension of the public street
system is not required to serve other parcels in the area, improve access, or to provide a street
system consistent with the comprehensive plan.
· The use of a private street will permit enhanced protection of the city's natural resources
including wetlands and forested areas.
A public street is not required to serve these parcels. In fact, the majority of our commercial
establishments have cross access easements, share curb cuts and access (Market Square,
Chanhassen Retail, Frontier, Byerly's, etc.)
Access to the subdivision will be provided via a full access curb cut off of Lake Drive East and a
right in/out only off of Great Plains Boulevard. The subdivision request is a relatively
straightforward action and staff is recommending approval with conditions.
I. The proposed subdivision is consistent with the zoning ordinance;
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SUBDIVISION FINDINGS
Finding: The subdivision meets the intent of the city code subject to the conditions
of the staff report.
2. The proposed subdivision is consistent with all applicable city, county and regional plans
including but not limited to the city's comprehensive plan;
Finding: The proposed subdivision is consistent with applicable plans.
3. The physical characteristics of the site, including but not limited to topography, soils,
vegetation, susceptibility to erosion and siltation, susceptibility to flooding, and storm water
drainage are suitable for the proposed development;
Finding: The proposed site is suitable for development subject to the conditions
specified in this report.
4. The proposed subdivision makes adequate provision for water supply, storm drainage,
sewage disposal, streets, erosion control and all other improvements required by this
chapter;
Finding: The proposed subdivision will be served by adequate urban infrastructure.
5. The proposed subdivision will not cause environmental damage;
Finding: The proposed subdivision will not cause environmental damage subject to
conditions if approved.
6. The proposed subdivision will not conflict with easements of record.
Finding: The proposed subdivision will not conflict with existing easements, but
rather will expand and provide all necessary easements.
7. The proposed subdivision is not premature. A subdivision is premature if any ofthe
following exists:
a. Lack of adequate storm water drainage.
b. Lack of adequate roads.
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c. Lack of adequate sanitary sewer systems.
d. Lack of adequate off-site public improvements or support systems.
Finding:: The proposed subdivision is provided with adequate urban infrastructure.
GENERAL SITE PLAN/ARCHITECTURE
The proposed American Legion Building with an area of 7,822 square feet will be situated on the
northeast corner of the site and parallel to Highway 5. The site is bordered by Highway 5 to the
north, Great Plains Boulevard to the west, Citgo Gas Station, strip mall, New Horizon and Lake
Drive East to the south. Access to the buildings is proposed from Great Plains Boulevard (right
in/out only) and full access from Lake Drive East. Parking will be located along the southern
portion of the site. A meandering berm with landscaping, 3 to 4 feet in height, is proposed to be
installed along the north center portion of the site to provide screening of the parking lot.
The building is located 41 feet from the north, 15 feet from the east, 300 feet from the south, and
60 feet from the west property line.
The building contains a significant amount of detail. Materials used on the proposed building
consist of rock face block in a three-color blend, and fiber cement siding as the main materials.
Asphalt shingles for the roof. Accents are provided through the use of EIFS columns,
medallions, and a band that wraps around the entire building (samples will be provided at the
meeting). The one issue dealing with the materials relate to color. The accent medallion does
not provide any contrast from the columns and the fiber cement siding. Staff discussed changing
the color of the medallion and the applicant agreed with staff's suggestion and is willing to make
the change.
The building meets all the requirements of the design standards, which include:
· A defined entrance accentuated by a projecting dormer.
· The building provides articulation through the use of dormers on the roof, different materials,
landscaping, windows, and columns.
· All materials used on the building are durable and permitted.
· E.I.F.S is used as an accent and occupies a range of 11 % to 15% of each elevation as
permitted by ordinance.
· The colors on the building are harmonious. Staff is recommending the accent medallions be
changed to a color that provides more contrast.
· All elevations that can be viewed by the public have been designed to include windows
and/or doors to minimize expanses of blank walls.
· The site plan shows a patio located along the northeast corner of the site. Patio furniture will
be used in that area.
· Trash enclosure and service area are screened from views.
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. No more than 50% of the parking lot faces Highway 5. This parking area is screened by a
berm and landscaping.
The second building on the site will appear before the City for a site plan application at a later
date and is intended to be a clinic (park Nicollet). It is shown on the plans as a concept only.
SITE PLAN FINDINGS
In evaluating a site plan and building plan, the city shall consider the development's compliance
with the following:
(1) Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides, including
the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may be adopted;
(2) Consistency with this division;
(3) Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing tree and
soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the general appearance of
the neighboring developed or developing or developing areas;
(4) Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5) Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with special
attention to the following:
a. An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and provision of a
desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general community;
b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
c. Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of the
design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and neighboring
structures and uses; and
d. Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives and
parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public streets,
width of interior drives and access points, general interior circulation, separation
of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement and amount of parking.
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(6) Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision for
surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers, preservation of views, light and air and
those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations which may have
substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
Finding: The proposed development is consistent with the City's design requirements;
the comprehensive plan, the zoning ordinance, and the site plan review requirements.
The site design is compatible with the surrounding development. It is functional and
harmonious with the approved development for this area.
This development falls within the Highway 5 Corridor Overlay District and must comply
with the district's design standards in addition to the Neighborhood Business District Park
Standards. The purpose of the overlay district is to promote high-quality architectural and
site design through improved development standards within the corridor. The design
standards should create a unified, harmonious and high quality visual environment. The
plan and design of the proposed development meets the intent of the overlay district with
the following features:
· The building will be one story and the architectural style is unique but will fit in.
The building will provide a variation in style through the use of stepped back
walls and a variation of durable materials. The pitched roof utilizes a series of
dormers. The entrance into the building is pronounced and inviting.
· The trees ôn the site are a mixture of significant and insignificant trees in size and
quality. Developing the site will result in the loss of most of these trees. The
majority of the significant trees are located on the Park Nicollet site. There is an
attempt to save a few of them, specifically, along Great Plains Boulevard. Staff
will work with the applicant to save additional trees along Great Plains Boulevard.
The landscaping plan provides a variety of plant materials that are massed where
possible. However, additional plantings will be required.
· A parking lot light plan has been submitted. The plan should incorporate the light
style and height. Staff is also requiring a more detailed sign plan, which should
include lighting method.
· The layout of the site as proposed, has merit. The applicant paid equal attention
to all elevations of the building. The only elevation that has a larger span of wall
is the northeast elevation, however, it is surrounded by spruce trees and the
elevation along the east portion of the site, rises rapidly, screening the wall. To
protect the views of the neighboring property to the east (Northcott), staff is
recommending additional splUce trees be added along the east side of the trash
enclosure and delivery area.
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. The site plan shows the trash enclosure located at the southeast corner of the
Legion building and completely screened from views. The materials match those
used on the buildings. Current state statutes require that recycling space be
provided for all new buildings. The area of the recycling space must be dedicated
at the rate specified in Minnesota State Building Code (MSBC) 1300.4700 Subp.
5. The applicant should demonstrate the required area will be provided in
addition to the space required for other solid waste collection space. Recycling
space and other solid waste collection space should be contained within the same
enclosure.
WETLANDS
No wetlands exist on site.
Storm Water Management
The proposed development should be designed to meet the City's water quality and water
quantity requirements. The applicant proposes to increases an existing outlet pipe from a 12" to
a IS" pipe. Calculations should demonstrate that all downstream facilities are adequate to
accommodate storm water from the proposed development. The applicant should demonstrate
that the property owners to the east have granted permission for grading to occur on their
property and that they have agreed to combine the storm water ponds for both sites. One of the
conditions of approval for the site plan of the neighboring property (Northcott) stated, "A
drainage easement or other recordable document to secure the use of the pond for the parcel to
the west shall be drafted and recorded against the development. "
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The amount of riprap proposed may be excessive. The applicant may wish to reduce the amount
of riprap below the normal water level. Sheet Cl states that the "Normal High Water Level" for
the improved pond is 950.00. It is unclear whether this elevation is the normal water level or the
ordinary high water level. Drainage and utility easements should be provided over all storm
water ponding areas.
Erosion and Sediment Control
Silt fence should be provided in areas where sediment may otherwise be carried off-site. Erosion
control blanket should be installed on all slopes greater than or equal to 3: I. All upland areas
disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored with seed and disc-
mulched, covered with a wood-fiber blanket or sodded within two weeks of completion of each
activity in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
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Sutface Water Management Fees
Water Quality Fees
Because of the impervious surface associated with this development, the water quality fees for this
proposed development are based on commercial development rates of $5,909/acre. Based on the
proposed developed area of approximately 5.58 acres, the water quality fees associated with this
project are $32,972.
Water Quantity Fees
The SWMP has established a connection charge for the different land uses based on an average
citywide rate for the installation of water quantity systems. This cost includes land acquisition,
proposed SWMP culverts, open channels, and storm water ponding areas for runoff storage.
Commercial developments have a connection charge of $4,360 per developable acre. This results
in a water quantity fee of approximately $24,329 for the proposed development.
SWMP Credits
This project proposes the expansion of a NURP pond in the southeast corner of the site. The
applicant will be credited for water quality where NURP basins are provided to treat runoff from
the site. This will be determined upon review of the storm water calculations. The applicant
may also be credited for oversizing storm water infrastructure in accordance with the SWMP or
for the provision of outlet structures. The applicant will not be assessed for areas that are
dedicated outlots. No credit will be given for temporary pond areas.
At this time, the estimated total SWMP fee, due payable to the City at the time of final plat
recording, is $57,301.
Other Agencies
The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies (e.g.,
Riley-Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, Minnesota
Department of Natural Resources, Army Corps of Engineers) and comply with their conditions of
approval.
GRADINGIDRAINAGEIEROSION CONTROL
The current plans show a building with a proposed floor elevation of 960.75 on Lot I. The future
building on Lot 1 is shown with a proposed pad elevation of 957.00. At these elevations, storm
water from the buildings will drain toward each of the proposed catch basins. The parking lot
storm drainage will be conveyed via storm sewer to a proposed enlarged storm water pond at the
southeasterly corner of the site for treatment prior to discharging to the existing storm sewer
system. The applicant should be aware they will be responsible for cleaning the existing storm
water pond after enlargements have been completed. The pond is required to be designed to
National Urban Runoff Program (NURP) standards.
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The applicant has submitted drainage calculations for the site. Staff will work with the
applicant's engineer to revise the calculations. Prior to final platting, storm sewer design data
will need to be submitted for staff review. The storm sewer will have to be designed for a 10-
year, 24-hour storm event. Drainage and utility easements will need to be dedicated on the final
plat over the public storm drainage system including ponds, and drainage swales up to the 100-
year flood level. The minimum easement width shall be 20 feet wide. Emergency overflows
from all stormwater ponds will also be required on the construction plans.
Staff recommends that silt fence be added around the storm water pond grading limits of the site.
The silt fence must be Type II. All of the proposed rock construction entrances must be
lengthened to 75 feet as per City Detail Plate No. 5301.
UTILITIES
The plans propose extending the sanitary sewer from the existing sanitary manhole at Trunk
Highway 5 and water from an existing watermain along the east side of the parcel. The
watermain line will be considered a public utility line since it will serve more than one lot. As
such, minimum 20-foot wide easements will be required over the public portion of the utility
lines. Installation of the private utilities for the site will require permits and inspections through
the City's Building Department.
The site has been previously assessed for utilities in the amount of $36,866.03. Since the
developer will be installing the lateral utility lines, no additional lateral connection fees will be
applied. Each newly created lot will be subject to City sanitary sewer and water hook up charges
at the time of building permit issuance. The 2002 trunk utility hook up charges are $1,383 per
unit for sanitary sewer and $1,802 per unit for water.
Public utility improvements will be required to be constructed in accordance with the City's latest
edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates. Detailed construction plans and
specifications will be required at the time of final platting. The applicant will also be required to
enter into a development contract with the City and supply the necessary financial security in the
form of a letter of credit or cash escrow to guarantee installation of the improvements and the
conditions of final plat approval. Permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies must be
obtained, including but not limited to the MPCA, Department of Health, Watershed District,
Carver County, MnDOT, etc.
STREETS AND PARKING LOT
No public streets are proposed as part of this project. The applicant is proposing full access to
the site from Lake Drive East and will utilize another existing right-in/right-out access (south of
the parcel) that is shared with Hidden Valley 2nd Addition (Citgo gas station) onto Great Plains
Boulevard. The applicant should be aware that they will be responsible for closing off the
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existing American Legion (west) access, removing the existing bituminous and extending the
curb along Great Plains Boulevard (east side). Also, the two accesses (Lake Drive East and
Great Plains Boulevard, through the Citgo Gas Station) shall be connected. This will require the
construction of the drive isle located along the south portion of the site concurrently with the
construction of the Legion site. At the Planning Commission meeting, the applicant
requested that the paved isle from Lake Drive East to Great Plains Boulevard be delayed
until the clinic develops their building. The Planning Commission saw merit in the
applicant's request. The clinic's plans have not been finalized and may result in the
removal of trees that can potentially be saved.
Staff has no objections to the location of these accesses. Concrete driveway aprons will be
required for the access. As the two accesses will service more than one lot, cross-access
easements will need to be obtained and recorded against the lots.
At the Planning Commission meeting, the applicant explained that all three parties
(Legion, Citgo, and clinic) wish to have the access point at the most southwesterly corner of
future Lot 1, Block 1. Staff has no objection to this change.
A traffic study was conducted by BRW, Inc. for the Villages on the Pond development which
is just west of this site. The study recommended that the Legion site access onto Great Plains
Boulevard be limited to a right-in/right-out due to its close proximity to State Trunk Highway 5
and the additional traffic volumes generated by development in this area. Currently, a raised
concrete median exists along Great Plains Boulevard down to the current driveway access for the
Legion site. A painted median extends from the concrete median down for approximately 85
feet. The raised concrete median starts again, to the intersection of Lake Drive and Great Plains
Boulevard. The purpose ofthe median (concrete and painted) is to delineate northbound and
southbound traffic and restrict turning movements along Great Plains Boulevard. Under the site
plan for Hidden Valley 2nd Addition (site plan for Citgo Station) the right-in/right-out access
onto Great Plains Boulevard (old Trunk Highway 101) was approved as an interim exit/entrance
with closure required upon the construction of an access along the north property line (the line
separating the subject site from the Citgo site) at a future date (see Attachment #2). The intent
was to share the access with the Legion site when it developed and minimize the number of curb
cuts on Great Plains Boulevard. The location of the existing curb cut at the Citgo Site is
acceptable and does not need to be moved. The current location maximizes the distance from
Highway 5 which allows for additional stacking distance. The plans have been drawn to
facilitate the access from Citgo Station to the new development. The connecting access drive
between the two developments as shown on the plans will be constructed to provide continuity
for vehicular traffic and pedestrians wishing to utilize services provided by both sites.
The main east/west drive aisle is shown at 26 feet wide. The drive aisle shall maintain a
minimum turning radius of 30° at the intersection to provide access for emergency vehicles. The
driveway access off of Lake Drive is proposed to be shared by the two users. Cross-access and
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maintenance agreements will need to be developed and recorded against the parcels to guarantee
future ingress and egress to the properties. To minimize traffic congestion on Great Plains
Boulevard during development, construction traffic should be limited to Lake Drive East drive
aisle.
The appropriate traffic control signage will need to be implemented throughout the site in
accordance with the Minnesota MUTCD.
PARKING
The City's parking ordinance for this development requires a design capacity of one stall for each
50 square feet of gross floor area. The total number required is 156 spaces. The applicant used a
different method to calculate the parking. They excluded the areas designated for circulation,
restrooms, mechanical rooms, etc. from the gross floor area. They also used a separate
calculation for the kitchen area (one occupant per 200 square feet of gross floor area which
translates to 9 stalls). Following the applicant's calculation, the site requires 120 spaces and the
applicant is providing 120.
Regardless of which method is used to arrive at an appropriate number, the traffic study
conducted by Benshoof & Associates, Inc. concludes that there will be adequate parking. The
study collected parking usage information at two comparable sites. Data was collected at the
existing American Legion building in Chanhassen and at a Park Nicollet clinic in Maple Grove
on Friday, November 30, 2001, from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. and again from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. A Friday
was chosen because it represents a busier than usual day for the American Legion and a typical
day for the clinic. The combined peak demand at I :30 p.m. was 95 spaces. During the evening
survey period, the combined peak demand at 6 p.m. was 123 (Park Nicollet will provide 153
parking spaces).
Based upon these comparisons, these two uses compliment each other with respect to parking
demand because they tend to peak at different times during the day. More parking demand for
the clinic during the day, while the American Legion will be busiest in the evenings and on
weekends.
LANDSCAPING
Minimum requirements for landscaping include 3,706 sq. ft. of landscaped area around the
parking lot, 15 trees for the parking lot, and buffer yard plantings along Highway 5 and the east
property line. The applicant's proposed as compared to the requirements for landscape area and
parking lot trees is shown in the following table.
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Vehicular use landsca
Treesllandsca
Hwy.5
Buffer yard B - 230'
R uired
3,706 s . ft.
15 cano trees
2 canopy trees
5 understory trees
5 shrubs
5 canopy trees
10 understory trees
15 shrubs
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4 5 understory
>5 shrubs
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G 15 shrubs
East property line.
Buffer yard A SOT
The applicant does not meet minimum requirements for the east buffer yard plantings. Staff
recommends that plantings be increased in order to meet minimum requirements as shown in the
table. Additionally, according to ordinance, parking lots shall be fully screened from Highway 5.
The applicant is proposing to do this through the use of berming and landscaping.
The applicant does not meet minimum requirements for landscape area in the parking lot.
This can be easily corrected by converting two parking spaces into a landscape island. The
plan falls 355 square feet short of the total area required.
Currently existing at the southwest corner of the site are a number of significant oak trees. They
range in size from 22 to 40 inches in diameter. Staff recommends that the applicant explore all
options in an attempt to preserve any of the existing oaks by shifting roadways and/parking areas.
The oaks are in good condition and extremely valuable. Preserving them would enhance the
development by providing an attractive and interesting focal point at the entrance.
LIGHTING
Lighting locations have been illustrated on the plans. Only shielded fixtures are allowed and the
applicant shall demonstrate that there is no more than \12 foot candles of light at the property line
as required by ordinance. A detailed lighting plan should be submitted when building permits
are requested. Staff recommends decorative lights not exceed 15 feet in height be used.
SIGNAGE
In the BN - Neighborhood Business District the following signs are permitted:
· Ground low profile business sign defined as "A business sign affixed directly to the ground,
with the sign display area standing not greater than two (2) feet above the ground. "
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The area of the sign may not exceed 24 square feet and 5 feet in height. The sign must maintain
a 10 foot setback from property lines.
. Wall mounted sign defined as: "A sign attached to or erected against the wall of a building
or structure with the exposed face of the sign in a plane approximately parallel to the face of the
wall, and which does not project more than twelve (12) inches from such building or structure.
Wall signs shall not include product advertising. Wall signs shall include tenant identification,
tenant logo, center name, or any combination of the three."
Only 1 wall-mounted sign is permitted on the street frontage for each building occupant.
The applicant is proposing two wall-mounted signs. One facing Highway 5 and the other at the
entrance of the building along the southwest elevation. The sign facing Highway 5 must be
removed. The applicant is proposing a monument sign along the north property line, facing
Highway 5. This sign will be adequate in advertising the location of the building.
8. Directional sign is defined as: "A sign erected on private property for the purpose of
directing pedestrian or vehicular traffic onto or about the property upon which such sign is
located, including signs marking entrances and exits. circulation direction, parking areas, and
pickup and delivery areas."
Staff discussed access to the site and directional signs with the applicant. Staff questions the
need for the requested signs. There are two off premise signs. These signs are permitted when
access is confusing and in this case, can be justified. They will require City Council approval
and we believe they are warranted. There are 7 on premise directional signs. These signs are
allowed without a permit with a maximum of 4 per lot. Two of these signs are located on the
Legion site, while the other 5 are shown on the future Park Nicollet lot. Staff will examine these
signs at the time of site plan application for the clinic.
The wall-mounted sign has no dimensions. Staff is recommending the following criteria be
adopted:
I. Monument signage shall be subject to the monument standards in the sign
ordinance.
2. Wall signs are permitted on the southwest elevation only. The sign area shall
meet standards set in the sign ordinance.
3. All signs require a separate permit.
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March 11 Pebmary 19, 2002
Page 15
4. The signage will have consistency throughout the development and add an
architectural accent to the building.
5. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size, materials, and heights.
6. Back-lit individual letter signs are permitted.
7. Individual letters may not exceed 2 feet in height.
8. Only the name and logo of the business occupying the building will be permitted
on the sign.
The applicant must obtain a sign permit prior to erecting the signs on site. A detailed sign plan
incorporating the method of lighting, acceptable to staff should be provided prior to requesting a
building permit. .
EXISTING BillLDING
The applicant wishes to continue using their existing building until the proposed building is
completed. They discussed this issue with staff and proposed a 60-day deadline to demolish the
building after the Certificate of Occupancy has been issued for the new building. Staff believes
. this request is reasonable. The existing building will occupy a separate lot than the future
building. Therefore, it will not create a nonconforming situation.
PARK AND TRAIL
Park and Trail fees shall be paid at the rate in force upon application. The current fees are as
follows:
Legion Site (Lot 2): At the time of plat: Park Fee: $3,180
Trail Fee: $1,060
At the time of building permit: Park Fee: $6,360
Trail Fee: $2,120
Park Nicollet Site (Lot 1): At the time of plat: Park Fee: $5,310
Trail Fee: $1,770
At the time of building permit: Park Fee: $10,620
Trail Fee: $3,540
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COMPLIANCE TABLE - BN DISTRICT
Total Parking
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PLANING COMMISSION UPDATE
On February 19,2002, the Planning Commission reviewed and approved this application
unanimously. They commended the applicant on their design of the building.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motion:
A. SUBDIVISION
"The Planning Commission recommends approval of Subdivision 2002-3 for the replat of 5.58
acres into 2 lots, Park Nicollet Addition, as shown on plans dated received January 15,2002,
subject to the following conditions:
1. Calculations shall demonstrate that all downstream facilities are adequate to
accommodate storm water from the proposed development.
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March 11 Fe!!mary 19,2002
Page 17
2. The applicant shall demonstrate that the property owners to the east have granted
permission for grading to occur on their property and that they have agreed to combine
the storm water ponds for both sites.
3. Drainage and utility easements shall be provided over all storm water ponding areas.
4. Silt fence shall be provided in areas where sediment may otherwise be carried off-site.
5. Erosion control blanket shall be installed on all slopes greater than or equal to 3: 1.
6. All upland areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored
with seed and disc-mulched, covered with a wood-fiber blanket or sodded within two weeks
of completion of each activity in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice
Handbook.
7. Based on the proposed developed area of approximately 5.58 acres, the water quality fees
associated with this project are $32,972; the water quantity fees are approximately
$24,329. The applicant will be credited for water quality where NURP basins are
provided to treat runoff from the site. This will be determined upon review of the storm
water calculations. At this time, the estimated total SWMP fee, due payable to the City at
the time of final plat recording, is $57,301.
8. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies
(e.g. Riley-Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency,
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, Army Corps of Engineers) and comply with
their conditions of approval.
9. Prior to final plat approval, a professional civil engineer registered in the state of
Minnesota must sign all plans.
10. The pond is required to be designed to National Urban Runoff Program (NURP)
standards.
11. Cross-access easements for the shared driveway accesses must be obtained and recorded
against the lots.
12. Staff will work with the applicant's engineer to revise storm water calculations. Prior to
final platting, storm sewer design data will need to be submitted for staff review. The
storm sewer will have to be designed for a 10-year, 24-hour storm event. Drainage and
utility easements will need to be dedicated on the final plat over the public storm drainage
system including ponds, and drainage swales, up to the 100-year flood level. The
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March 11 Fe!!ruary 19, 2002
Page 18
minimum easement width shall be 20 feet wide. Emergency overflows from all
stormwater ponds will also be required on the construction plans.
13. Minimum 20-foot wide easements will be required over the public portion of the utility
lines.
14. Each newly created lot will be subject to City sanitary sewer and water hook up charges at
the time of building permit issuance. The 2002 trunk utility hook up charges are $1,383
per unit for sanitary sewer and $1,802 per unit for water.
15. Public utility improvements will be required to be constructed in accordance with the
City's latest edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates. Detailed construction
plans and specifications will be required at the time of final platting. The applicant will
also be required to enter into a development contract with the City and supply the
necessary financial security in the form of a letter of credit or cash escrow to guarantee
installation of the improvements and the conditions of final plat approval. Permits from
the appropriate regulatory agencies must be obtained, including but not limited to the
MPCA, Department of Health, Watershed District, Carver County, MnDOT, etc.
16. Park and Trail fees shall be paid at the rate in force upon application. The current fees are
as follows:
Legion Site (Lot 2): At the time of plat: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
At the time of building permit: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
Park Nicollet Site (Lot 1): At the time of plat: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
At the time of building permit: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
$3,180
$1,060
$6,360
$2,120
$5,310
$1,770
$10,620
$3,540
17. The applicant shall enter into a development contract with the city and provide the necessary
financial securities as required.
18. Any retaining wall that exceeds 3 feet in height shall be designed by a Registered Engineer.
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March 11 Fe!!RIary 19, 2002
Page 19
B. SITE PLAN REVIEW
"The Planning Commission recommends approval of Site Plan Review 2002-2, for the
American Legion Club Post 580 as shown on the site plan received January 15,2002, subject to
the following conditions:
I. The applicant must obtain a sign permit prior to erecting any signage on site. Provide a
detailed sign plan for review and approval. The signage shall meet the following criteria:
a. Monument signage shall be subject to the monument standards in the sign
ordinance.
b. Wall signs are permitted on the southwest elevation only. The sign area shall
meet standards set in the sign ordinance.
c. All signs require a separate permit.
d. The signage will have consistency throughout the development and add an
architectural accent to the building.
e. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size, materials, and heights.
f. Back-lit individual letter signs are permitted.
g. Individual letters may not exceed 2 feet in height.
h. Only the name and logo of the business occupying the building will be permitted
on the sign.
2. All roof top equipment shall be screened from views. Any kitchen vents shall be
concealed or painted the same color as the roof.
3. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the city and provide the
necessary financial securities.
4. Fire Marshal conditions:
a. Two additional fire hydrants will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal
for exact location of hydrants.
b. A 10-foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e, street lamps,
trees, bushes, shrubs, Qwest, Xcel Energy, cable TV and transformer boxes. This
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March 11 FeàmllfY 19, 2002
Page 20
is to ensure that the hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by
firefighters. Pursuant to Chanhassen City Ordinance #9-1.
c. When fire protection including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for
fire protection is required to be installed, such protection shall be installed and
made serviceable prior to and during the time of construction. Pursuant to 1997
Uniform Fire code Section 901.3.
d. Comply with the Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division regarding
premise identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention
Division Policy #29-1992.
e. Comply with water service installation policy for commercial and industrial
buildings. Pursuant to Inspection Division Water Service Installation Policy #34-
1993. Copy enclosed.
f. Comply with the Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division Policy
regarding maximum allowed size of domestic water on a combination
domestic/fire sprinkler supply line. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire
Prevention Division Policy #36-1994. Copy enclosed.
g. Comply with the Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division policy
regarding notes being included on all site plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
DepartmentlFire Prevention Division Policy #4-1991.
h. "No parking fire lane" signs and yellow curbing will be required. Contact
Chanhassen fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing to be painted
yellow. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division Policy
#6-1991 and Section 904-1997 Uniform Fire Code.
5. The applicant shall change the color of the accent medallions to a more contrasting color.
6. Concurrent with the building permit, a detailed lighting plan including fixture styles,
meeting city standards shall be submitted.
7. Building Official's conditions:
a. The building is required to have an automatic fire extinguishing system.
b. The plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the
State of Minnesota.
c. Demolition permits must be obtained form the Inspections Division before
demolishing any structures.
d. Detailed occupancy related code requirements will be reviewed when complete
plans are submitted. It is evident however that the assembly space in the
basement must be of one-hour fire-resistive construction and the exits as designed
do not comply with the code.
e. The proposed building on Lot 1 was not reviewed for building code compliance.
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March 11 Fe¡rullfj' 19, 2002
Page 21
f. The owner and or their representative shall meet with the Inspections Division as
soon as possible to discuss plan review and permit procedures.
8. The applicant shall increase the easterly buffer yard plantings to meet minimum
requirements. Spruce trees shall be added to the east of the trash enclosure and the
loading area. A revised landscape plan shall be submitted to the City prior to city council
approval. All Colorado Blue Spruce trees shall be replaced by Black Hills Spruce or
other species as approved by the city.
9. All parking lot landscape islands must have a minimum width of 10 feet.
10. The applicant and/or contractor shall notify the City upon encountering any existing drain
tile on the site. The City will determine whether or not the drain tile can be abandoned or
relocated.
11. All construction vehicles shall access the site from Lake Drive North and not Great Plains
Boulevard. Rock construction entrances shall be installed and maintained until the site is
paved with a bituminous surface. Haul routes, if necessary, shall be pre-approved by the
City. The applicant will be required to maintain haul routes and clean the streets of any
dirt and mud accumulated from vehicles tracking. . Any damage to City streets, curbs or
other public facilities will be the responsibility of the applicant.
12. Private utility easements will be required for the storm sewer line that runs from Lot 2 to
Lot I.
13. Add the following City of Chanhassen Detail Plate Nos. 1002, 1004, 1006,2101,2109,
2201-2205,3101,3106-3108,5204,5207,5214,5234 and 5300.
14. Prior to final plat approval, a professional civil engineer registered in the state of
Minnesota must sign all plans.
15. The pond is required to be designed to National Urban Runoff Program (NURP)
standards.
16. Cross-access easements for the shared driveway accesses must be obtained and recorded
against the lots.
17. The minimum rock construction entrance must be 75 feet.
18. The applicant must obtain a permit from MnDOT for grading in the right-of-way.
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March 11 PeBmary 19, 2002
Page 22
19. Staff will work with the applicant's engineer to revise storm water calculations. Prior to
final platting, storm sewer design data will need to be submitted for staff review. The
storm sewer will have to be designed for a lO-year, 24-hour storm event. Drainage and
utility easements will need to be dedicated on the final plat over the public storm drainage
system including ponds, and drainage swales, up to the 100-year flood level. The
minimum easement width shall be 20 feet wide. Emergency overflows from all
stormwater ponds will also be required on the construction plans.
20. A silt fence shall be added around the east side of storm water pond grading limits of the
site. The silt fence must be Type n. All of the proposed rock construction entrances
must be lengthened to 75 feet as per City Detail Plate No. 5301. The silt fence shall be
removed upon completion of the project.
21. Any off-site grading will require easements from the appropriate property owner.
22. Minimum 20-foot wide easements will be required over the public portion of the utility
lines.
23. Installation of the private utilities for the site will require permits and inspections through
the City's Building Department.
24. Each newly created lot will be subject to City sanitary sewer and water hook up charges
at the time of building permit issuance. The 2002 trunk utility hook up charges are
$1,383 per unit for sanitary sewer and $1,802 per unit for water.
25. Public utility improvements will be required to be constructed in accordance with the
City's latest edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates. Detailed construction
plans and specifications will be required at the time of final platting. The applicant will
also be required to enter into a development contract with the City and supply the
necessary financial security in the form of a letter of credit or cash escrow to guarantee
installation of the improvements and the conditions of final plat approval. Permits from
the appropriate regulatory agencies must be obtained, including but not limited to the
MPCA, Department of Health, Watershed District, Carver County, MnDOT, etc.
26. On the utility plan:
_ Revise catch basin nos. 2, 3, 4, and 7 to catch basin manhole nos. 2, 3,4, and 7.
- Revise sheet title to "Preliminary Utility Plan".
_ Shift the watermain toward the southeast corner adjacent to the curb and call the
fittings.
- Show the utilities easement.
- Add a storm sewer schedule.
- Change the type of public watermain from DIP to PVC C-900.
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March 11 Fe!!ruary 19, 2002
Page 23
- Show the proposed pipe slope, class and length of the storm sewer.
- Under the Sewer and Water Notes, add, "All sanitary services shall be 6" PVC SDR26.
27. On the grading plan:
- Show all existing and proposed easements.
- Show the benchmark used for the site survey.
- Add a note "clean existing pond after pond enlargement grading is finished".
- Revise sheet title to "Preliminary Grading, Drainage & Erosion Control Plan".
- Add a note for removing existing bituminous and close off the existing (west) American
Legion access.
28. Access onto Great Plains Boulevard from Lot 1, Block 1 shall be restricted to a right-
in/right-out only. The connecting access drive between the two developments as shown
on the plans should be constructed along te the south property line of the site
concurrently with the construction of tile LegieH site phase II.
29. Obtain a liquor license from the City.
30. The existing Legion building shall be removed no later than 60 days after receipt of the
Certificate of Occupancy for the new building.
31. ..^& sic:te'.valk BRall be iRHaåHceå tkreüge tHe LegiaR's parlcJag lot. Tke sidewalk shall rNfl
floFta/s81:lt};¡ aRå eSSReet tfle l3ailåiag ·;:itli the side~.·:a]]( SA Lah.e Dri\'e Bast. The
applicant will work with staff to explore the possibility of having a tree island on the
property line as well as placement options for a sidewalk.
32. The applicant shall work with staff to minimize impact and save the significant stand
same of the trees located aJeng Great PlaiHs Beuleyllfè in the southwest corner of the
site until future plans are developed.
33. Park and Trail fees shall be paid at the rate in force upon application. The current fees are
as follows:
Legion Site (Lot 2): At the time of plat: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
At the time of building permit: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
$3,180
$1,060
$6,360
$2,120
Park Nicollet Site (Lot 1): At the time of plat: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
At the time of building permit: Park Fee:
$5,310
$1,770
$10,620
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Page 24
34. The applicant shall be responsible for closing off the existing Citgo Gas Station
(west) access, removing the existing bituminous, extending the curb along Great
Plains Boulevard (east side) and extending the median located across from the
existing Legion curb cut to eliminate left turns.
35. Recycling space shall be provided for all new buildings. The area of the recycling
space must be dedicated at the rate specified in Minnesota State Building Code
(MSBC) 1300.4700 Subp. 5. The applicant should demonstrate the required area
will be provided in addition to the space required for other solid waste collection
space. Recycling space and other solid waste collection space should be contained
within the same enclosure. "
ATTACHMENTS
I. Copy of condition "U" of the Northcott site plan agreement pertaining to shared use and
expansion of the pond.
2. Letter dated September 19, 1994, and City Council minutes discussing Citgo Gas Station
with conditions of approval dated June 2, 1986.
3. Memo from Todd Hoffman, dated January 30, 2002.
4. Memo from Mark Littfin dated February 6, 2002.
5. Memo from Steve Torell, Building Official, dated February 1, 2002.
6. Memo from Mahmoud Sweidan, dated February 5, 2002.
7. Traffic Study prepared by Benshoof and Associates.
8. Notice of Public Hearing.
9. Application.
10. Planning Commission minutes dated February 19, 2002.
11. Plans dated received JBRliar/ 15 March 4, 2002.
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CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
WORK SESSION
FEBRUARY 11, 2002
Mayor Jansen caUed the meeting to order at 5:45 p.m.
COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Jansen, Councilman Boyle, Councilman Labatt and
Councilman Peterson
COUNCILMEMBERS ABSENT: Councilman Ayotte
STAFF PRESENT: Todd Gerhardt and Kate Aanenson
A. STRATEGIC PLAN - ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
Todd Gerhardt discussed what staff has been doing related to economic development in the city.
Meeting with the Chamber of Commerce, there were discussions of starting a farmers market and where
would be the best location. Creating a coupon book for the PGA tournament with ads and coupons from
local businesses. And last, the Chamber discussed creating a map showing how to get to Chanhassen
from the airport with ads from local businesses. Todd Gerhardt stated that the Chamber of Commerce is
starting to take a more active role in marketing Chanhassen. The council discussed various locations for
the fanners market. Staff showed a map of downtown Chanhassen and what sites were owned by the city
and what the vision was for those sites. There was discussion about the need for a "sit down" restaurant
in town. Mayor Jansen asked if the city was positioned to meet the demand when the time comes. Kate
Aanenson showed different sites where restaurants could be accommodated. There was discussion over
the old Pauly-Pony-Pryzmus site and the consensus of the council was to keep that site commercial with
the possibility of putting a restaurant there. Mayor Jansen stated that Todd Gerhardt should continue to
be the liaison between the Chamber to Commerce and the City Council. Councilman Boyle volunteered
to be the back-up if Todd Gerhardt couldn't make a meeting.
The second strategy was discussion of the vacant industrial land in town. Todd Gerhardt went over a
map showing where all the vacant parcels were. Mayor Jansen asked how the city could help stimulate
growth of those parcels. Councilman Peterson said he believed the landowners were marketing most of
the sites pretty aggressively themselves.
Mayor Jansen summed up what had been discussed. The City Council supports the Chamber of
Commerce and the direction they're going. Keeping track of the progress on the bowling alley site. To
keep the Pauly-Pony-Pryzmus site commercial and try to market the site for a sit down restaurant. Mayor
Jansen then asked staff to prepare a rendering of what the city envisions development could look like on
that corner.
Councilman Peterson asked if the Vision 2002 discussion could be continued at a later work session.
Mayor Jansen adjourned the work session meeting at 6:55 p.m.
Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
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behind the existing sidewalk along Lake Drive East.
o. The storm pond shall be revised to take into account future expansion to the west. The pond
slopes shall be 3 to I with a 10 to 1 slope for the first one foot depth of water or 4 to 1 side
slopes overall.
p. The applicant and/or contractor shall notify the city upon encountering any existing drain tile
on the site. The city will determine whether or not the drain tile can be abandoned or
relocated.
q. All construction vehicles shall access the site from the westerly entrance off Lake Drive East.
Rock construction entrances shall be installed and maintained until the site is paved with a
bituminous surface. Parking along Lake Drive East shall be prohibited. Haul routes, if
necessary, shall be pre-approved by the city. The applicant will be required to maintain haul
routes and clean the streets of any dirt and mud accumulated from vehicles tracking. Any
r. damage to city streets, curbs or other public facilities will be the responsibility of the
applicant.
s. The applicant's civil engineer shall provide detailed storm sewer and ponding calculations for
10-year and 100-year storm events for the City Engineer to review and approve prior to issuance
of a building permit. The applicant shall provide detailed pre-developed and post-developed
storm water calculations for 100-year storm events and normal water level and high water level
calculations for the proposed pond. Individual storm sewer calculations between each catch
basin segment will also be required to determine if sufficient catch basins are being utilized.
t. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies, i.e.
Watershed District, Metropolitan Waste Control Commission, Health Department, Minnesota
Pollution Control Agency and Minnesota Department of Transportation and comply with their
conditions of approval.
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A drainage easement or other recordable document to secure the use of the pond for the
parcel to the west shall be drafted and recorded against the development.
v. A future internal driveway access from this site to the parcel to the west may be required with
the next phase or expansion of the parking lot depending on compatible land uses of the
parcels. Such access may be subject to reasonable restrictions so that the joint access does
not materially interfere with the use and enjoyment on either parcel. This access will not be
required if the adjoining land use is a car wash or facility with gas pumps or other use which
may cause vehicular congestion. The access is specifically not provided to facilitate cross
parking. Both properties must meet all zoning and use parking requirements on their
respective parcels without benefit of such cross access. Cross-access and maintenance
agreements will need to be developed and recorded against the parcels to guarantee ingress
and egress to the properties.
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September 19, 1994
Tom Lander
Mortenson Corporation
P.O. Box 710
Minneapolis, MN 55440
Dear Mr. Lander:
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One of the conditions of approval of this deyelopmeút was that the access to the commercial
center from Highway 101 be eliminated when the Ari1erican Legion site develops (see
attached minutes dated June 2, 1986). TI!i access to ð1e existing commercial center will then
be from Highway 101 just to the nortb~.¥f the access~, the Legion property.
The possibility of the Mortenson pr~ gainingacces{lrom the Legion property, via this
access from Highway 101, is deperident upon the type ofÖevelopment that occurs on the
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property if both parcels were 'developed with similar or compatible type uses.
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retained by whomever's property they happen to be on, but we don't see how
the City can place that into a condition form. I am recommending that 5 be
made concerning the requirement for an easement for driveway purposes
across Lot 4 be executed ard granted to Hr. Hughes.
Councilwoman Watson: When there are only six lots. I don't see any
reason why we have to see just the average lot size lUX! mecUan lot size. I
think we could have gotten the six lot sizes.
Dacy: The lot sizes are the plat too.
Mayor Hamilton: Have any trouble with that condition 5 TcIm?
Tom Klingelhutz: No, no problem at all. I think it would be foolish to
make him move his driveway Wen the lot is so large anyhow.
Dave Hughes: I live on the east side of the property line lUX! I
acknowledge the Council is not setting legal property lines. I am
appreciative Hr. Honk's willingness to enter that -oement and Hr.
Klingelhutz's willingness to go along with it for my driveway and I ~id
special note to his comment that he wouldn't bulldozed those trees subject
to finding just whose trees they are.
Councilwoman Swenson moved, Councilwoman Watson seconded to approve the l
Final Plan Amendment Request '83-1 for platting six single family lots in
OUtlot D as presented on the plans stamped "Received April 24, 1986" ard
subject to the following conditions:
1. Creation of a 1Ø foot landscaped. strip along the two lots abutting
Lake Lucy Road.
2. Shorten the cul-de-sac ten feet.
3. All construction meet urban design standams for utilities.
4. Site grading be required to route runoff away from the already
developed property to the east.
5. An easement be granted across Lot 4 for driveway purposes for the
adjoining property.
All voted in favor and motion carried.
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Dacy: I will quickly run through this request. The plat request is to
divide the parcel into two lots so the free stancUng build on'the eastern
portion of the lot can be conveyed to separate ownership. O:mdition of
plat approval that the two lots file a=oss --«It .cc-e agreement
between the two lots so that those lots can only be used as proposed from
Lake Drive East:. As you recall, the lot was platted in conjunct:1cn with
the HidCIen valley Estates plan arII5 you will recall that Lake EAJcy is going
to connect eventually down to Dakota. It was a cordition of approval along
the south side of Lake Drive East that there be a 6-B foot berm along this
area. 'l'his outlot am the outlot to the east of the American rsgion
Property was zoned to 0-2 at the time of the HidCIen Valley Plat approval.
So the applicant's site plan requires two approvals by City Q)unci1. One
is a Conditional USe Permit for the sale of gasoline. Two is the site plan
review for the commercial use itself. Retail uses are permitted uses in
the 0-2 Clistric:t so the conditional use only pertains to ~ sale of
gasoline. The site plan for detetmining the location of the pumps does
meet the setback requirements for the 0-2 Clistric:t. Of concern may be the
gas pump sigMge that is proposed. I think most of you will recall that
earlier request of the Holiday station and at the Lincoln Properties bas
prohibited any type of gas pump can't be sigMged. However, if it is
considered by COuncil as recommended that the signage only be located on
the north and west side and not the south and east to only promote the
ability to see the signs from that direction and not from the neighborhood.
As far as the pumps are concerned, the Fire Marshall was consulted and he
is recommending conditions of approval. As far as the site plan is
concerned, we have noted 12 conditions that woulc1 be made a part of
approval. What I would like to do is briefly go through those so we know
wœtStaff is r~mDi~.
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1. As far as signage is concerned, there will be one pylon sign on the
west side of the site. It is also bei~ recommended that along the south
side, along with a basis of signage in and around the profile sign rather
than a pylon sign to give it a Clifferent character.
2. Mditional landscaping in the northwest corner of the site. fbwever,at
this time Staff wants to withdraw that condition because of the issue that
is raise(! with the access from '1'H lØ1. . What is being proposed .is a one-way
in or one-way out from '1'H lØl into the site. HnDot bas come back and said
that in the future when the American Legion property develops to t.'1e north,
that this access will be closed arII5 a new access be built along t::-. north
lot line and that the traffic design of this site be reoriented tc :he
north to access into the Clriveway. 'D1us is condition 12 that the City·
Ð1gineer added at the time of Planning Catmission approval. .
3. Is to Clirec:t on-site catch basins and not to L'lke Drive East.
4. 'Ibat the access island on Lake Drive East be lengthened lØ feet to the
north to assist with traffic channelization. 'l'his will alter the turning
movements of cars entering the site and also coming out of the site. We
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propose two lanes as you exit the site for a right hancJ turn ancS left hand
turn.
s. R:!quires that lanes in here be clearly stripec!.
6. That the developer acquire the HnDot permit ancS comply with aU of its
conditions.
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7. '!he standard condition requiring all bituminous areas shall be lined
with concrete ancS curbs.
S. '!bat the root-top equipment be screened as shown on the plan dated
April 24, 1986.
9. Installation of landscaping.
Ie. aafers to an installation of a fire hydrant along Lake Dri ve Fast.
This is to insure PJ:Oper water supply for fire protection services.
11. Ole of the parking spaces along the front of the shopping center be at
least locatEd to provide for fire lane. Fire lane access and the
elimination of one parking space will not affect parking requirements.
The Planning Commission recommendEd approval on the plat, conditional [
use permit and the site plan approval with the 12 conditions as presented.
Pat Hallasee: I guess I have nothing to add other than the fact that we
have workEd very closely with the Staff in deVeloping our plan and feel the
recommendations they have added are very wise and are consistent with gocXl
planning and we intend to follow those rec:anuendations.
Mayor Hamil ton: I think I saw that you are planning on putting in a
Q-Superette in there.
Pat Hallasee: That is correct.
Mayor Hamilton: Don't they generally sell 3.2 beer.
Pat Hallasee: 3.2 beer, yes.
Mayor Hamilton: Personally I have a problem with that. I would r::1!(e that
a condition that a 3.2 beer license not be allowed at the o-Super. .'':e.
Pat Hallasee: I think that would be a substantial problem.
Councilwoman Watson: Why.
Mayor Hamil ton: We would just have so many problems,. we've had problems I
with other facilities in the City and I work continually with the Carver ~
County POlice department and that seems to be a major Source of minors ~
purchasing alcoholic beverages is buying through a Q-Superette or that type
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of establishment, whether it is a Tom '1bumb or whatever types sell it:.
'!'hat is a major problem. We've hIIc1 those problems in this colllllunity
before and it is an important problem that we have a hard time clealing
with because 1'Qu can't have someone sitting down there all the time. You
often times have 16 year Qlds working in those type of facility and they
are selling to other 16 yèar olds. Police departments tend not to patrol
those type of fac:ili ties simply because it is a 3.2 and 1'011 can't get drunk
on 3.2.
Dacy: '!he only comment I was asking for clarification was, is that the
liquor license is not a zoning issue pertaining to this application.
Mayor Hamilton: I brought it up because I want the applicant to know that
is an issue.
A discussion followed on what other facilities such as Holiday, SUper
American and Kenny's sold 3.2 beer. It was established that Super America
and Kenny's did. fbliday does not, trying to decide if a precedent has
been established with respect to issuing of liquor licenses to these type
of facilities, a gas station facility with a store attacbœnt.
Don Ashworth: Council has great discretion in terms of liquor licenses.
You have issued a license to SA and have not issued one, nor have they
applied for one, to Holiday.
Pat Hallasee: I think it is an issue that's of some fairly major
importance though. I'm not going to say it is a real major factor in Q's
business, I know it is an important part of their business and I've never
really specifically questiOned the gentlemen about whether he would go
forward on this site or not without it, but I do know they are in
competition not only with Holiday but with Kenny's market also and they
would certainly be at a competitive disadvantage if they were not allowed
to canpete on the same basis as Kenny's.
Councilman Geving moved, Councilwoman Watson seconded approval of
Subdivision Request 86-12 as depicted on the plat stamped "Received April
24, 1986" and subject to an easement across Lot 1 being recorded in
conjunction with filing the plat to insure permanent access for Lot 2. All
voted in favor and motion carried.
Mayor Hamilton moved, Councilwoman Watson seconded approval of Conditional
Use ~it Request '86-2 for installation of gasoline pumps as dep~::ted on
the Slte Plan stamped "Received April 24, 1986" subject to the fo: ~Jwing
conditions:
1. Gasoline tank storage shall be in compliance with the uniform Fire
Code and a petmit must be obtained fran the State Fire Marshal.
2. Gas pump canopy signage shall only be located along the north and
west facia of the canopy. .
3. Approval of site Plan Request '86-1.
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Councilwoman Swenson: Is it anticipated that there will be any automobile
repair or maintenance on this site?
Pat Hallasee: ti), it is strictly gas sales, self service gaSoline and
convenience fOO3.
Dacy: ~ canopy signage would be part of this request.
Councilwoman Swenson: I looked diligently through here I thought and I
could find no copy of what they wanted to put on this sign. Is there a copy
of what the signage on the canopy was going to look like. I know we were
very specific with Holiday that they couldn't put anything on this sigr1-
7be signage would have to be restricœa to the name of the station.
Dacy: '!he nine foot square sign, that is the 0 sign, the other one lists
prices.
Councilwoman Swenson: Ch no. You can't have it up there because if you
have it up there. You can put the MIlle of the establishment but: no the gas
prices. We went through this with Holiday. '!bat is a main comer there.
7bey want rotating pylons.
Dacy: N:J, they UD:'Jerstand that it is not to be rotating. '!bat is
prohibited by otdinance.
Councilman Hom: What is the difference if the prices is on the canopy or
on another sign.
Councilwoman Swenson: I think it can be pretty "icky" looking especially
as you are entering the City. If our whole policy is going to change than
I think we should establish it before everyone else is going to be wanting
signs all over the marquees. Do I understand that the area that is going
to be facing '1'H 5, the north lot line is the rear of the shopping center or
are we talking about sanething else.
Dacy: Yes, the north side is the rear.
Councilwanan SWenso';1: 7be P\IIIPS are going to be facing take Drive East?
Dacy: Yes, at the corner of take Drive East and '1H 1Ø1.
Councilwoman Swenson: What provisions are being made for the arch'';ec:tural
appearance on the north side of the building. I,
Pat Hallasee: It is all brick. The building will be brick all four
sides.
Councilwoman SWenson: M1ere do you intend to have trash containers?
Pat Hallasee: We have indicated two positions on the 'Site Plan. We
understand the trash containers will be screened. We. would want to do that
an}'Way.
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Councilwoman SWEl1SOn: lbw we are baving two signs. We're baving a pylon
on the northeast side am another one on take Drive East. Yes, the sign
ordinance provides that you can bave one sign for every street frontage so
as a comer lot they are allowed two signs.
Councilwoman Watson: What does the pylon say as opposeð to what the canopy
says?
Dacy: '1he detail on what the sign say was not suhuittea. '!bey will apply
for a sign permit am they bave to meet the location and the size
requirements as stipulatea by the sign ordinance. We require them to show
the location on the site plan so the Council is aware that there is going
to be a sign on the partic:ular site. .
Councilwoman Swenson: We approve the signs then. Council approves the
signs?
Dacy: . H), it is processed administratively. '!be gas pump canopy signage
is included in the conditional usage permit approval however, the free
standing pylon signs are administratively approvecfbec:ause that is what the
sign ordinance provides. If they meet the standatds of the sign ordinance
on the free standing signs, they file an application and Staff processes
the penuit.
Councilwoman Swenson: I noticed in the Planning Commission Minutes,
according to you, one of the conditions for approval was that there was to
be no gas canopy signage. Q' page '1birty <he of May 14, 1986 Minutes. Okay
the one on Lake Drive East is going to be the neighborhood type, the groum
profile and the one on '1'H 5 is eight feet tall. I believe that Is wbat I
read.
Dacy: Q' '1'H s. H).
Councilman Geving: You are down to nœnber 9.
Councilwoman Swenson: On the back here it says rotating it says it Is
going to 6 feet side and 8 feet high on a 12 foot POSt. Which Is the same
size as McDonalds.
Dacy: 2Ø feet is the maximum. .'!be Planning Commission did approve the
Conditional Use Permit as presentEd in the Staff Report. 48 square feet.
'!be maximum for a commercial sign is 8Ø &quare feet so they are umerneath
that requirement.
All voted in favor except Councilwoman Swenson who opposed. Motion
carried.
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Councilman Horn moved, Councilman Geving seconded approval of Site PIaIf'
Review Request '86-1: as depicted on the site plan stamped "Received April
24, 1986" and subject to the fOllowing COnditions:
1. The free-standing sign along Lake Drive East shall be a ground
profile sign.
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2. All site drainage be directed to on-site catch basins and not to
Lake Drive East.
3. '!be access islane! on Lake Drive East be lengthened 19 feet to the
north to assist with traffic channelization.
4. '!be exit lines to take Drive East be clearly signed and striped to
designate proper turning and directional movements. A detailed
plan be su!xnitted with the building permit denoting signage and
strip:tge of the access areas.
S. '!be developer acquire a permit from HnDot for the 'Df 191 ac:Å“ss
and adhere to all conditions of said permit including maintaining
ditch drainage.
6. All bituminous areas shall be lined with concrete curb, including
the islands at both access points.
7. Roof-top equipment and trash enclosures shall be screened as
depicted on tell plan s~ "Received April 24, 1986".
8. Installation of landscaping as depicted on the plan stamped
"Received April 24, 1986".
9. An additional fire hydrant will be located on Lake Drive East.
this will insure proper water supply and availability for fire
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Fire lane access will be provided in the front of the bUilding.
The specific location to be determined after final building plans
are subnitted.
'lbe 'Df 191 access is approved as an interim entrance/exit with
closures require upon the construction of an access along the
north property line at a future date. SUch closure shall be
required only upon the legal right of Lot 1, Hidden Valley 2m
Addition to use said access. Also, site plan revisions to allow
for this access shift shall be approved by the City to insure '
property vehicular DIOVBDents; "
All voted in favor and motion carried.
Dacy: Mr. Mayor I just noticed that on the plat request, the ager.:'.! should
have read preliminary and final plat. They have submitted both. As a matter
of fact, the plat in your p:tcket is a final plat. For the record could
you entertain a motion.
Mayor Hamilton amended his motion and Councilman Geving-seconded to amend
the Preliminary Plat Request to subdivide 1.93 Acres into Two Commercial
Lots of 1.35 Acres and .58 Acres to include Preliminary and Final Plat
approval.
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Sharmeen Al-Jaff
Todd Hoffman, Park & Recreation Director -tJ.i
January 30, 2002
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJ:
Park Nicollet 1st Addition, American Legion Post #580
I have reviewed Planning Case 2002-3 Subdivision and 2002-2 Site Plan for the
American Legion Post #580 project. The only applicable Park and Recreation
Department condition of approval is the payment of park and trail dedication
fees. The 1st Addition of 92,246 sq. feet will be required to pay the following
park and trail fees:
At the time of plat:
Park Fee: $3,180
Trail Fee: $1,060
At the time of building permit:
Park Fee: $6,360
Trail Fee: $2120
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690 City Gmter Drive
PO Box 147
Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317
Phone
952,9311900
General Fax
952,937.5739
Eng¡'"ering Departnzent Fax
952.937.9152
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Shannin AI-Jaff, Senior Planner
FROM:
Mark Littfin, Fire Marshal
DATE:
February 6, 2002
SUBJECT:
Request for a subdivision of 5.584 acres into two lots and a site plan
review with variances for the construction of an 8,617 square foot
building located at the southeast comer of the intersection of Hwy 5
and Great Plains Blvd, Park Nicollet I ~ Addition, American Legion
Post 580.
Planning Case: 2002-3 Subdivision and 2002-2 Site Plan,
I have reviewed the site plan for the above project. In order to comply with the Chanhassen
Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division, I have the following fire code or city
ordinance/policy requirements. The site plan is based on the available infonnation submitted at
this time. If additional plans or changes are submitted the appropriate code or policy items will
be addressed.
I. Two additional fire hydrants will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location of hydrants.
2. A 1 O-foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e, street lamps, trees,
bushes, shrubs, Qwest, Xcel Energy, cable TV and transfonner boxes. This is to
ensure that the hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters.
Pursuant to Chanhassen City Ordinance #9-1.
3, When fire protection including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire
protection is required to be installed, such protection shall be installed and made
serviceable prior to and during the time of construction. Pursuant to ] 997 Unifonn
Fire code Section 901.3.
4. Comply with the Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division regarding
premise identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Division Policy #29-1992.
5, Comply with water service installation policy for commercial and industrial buildings,
Pursuant to Inspection Division Water Service Installation Policy #34-1993. Copy
enclosed.
The City of Chanhas"n, A li'owin~ community with cltan lakes, quality schooh. a charmin¡ downwwn, thrivint businesses, and beautifù! parks, A fTCat place to live, work, and Pit.
Shannin Al-Jaff
February 6, 2002
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6. Comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy
regarding maximum allowed size of domestic water on a combination domestic/fire
sprinkler supply line. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Division Policy #36-1994. Copy enclosed.
7. Comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division policy
regarding notes being included on all site plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy #4-1991.
8. "No parking fire lane" signs and yellow curbing will be required. Contact Chanhassen
fire Marshal for exact locatión of signs and curbing to be painted yellow. Pursuant to
Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division Policy #6-1991 and Section
904-1997 Unifonn Fire Code.
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690 City Cmttr Drillt, PO Box 147
CiJJJnhassm. MinntSOt4 55317
PhoI1l612.937.1900
Gmtrtd Fax 612.937.5739
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CHANHASSEN FJRF. nEPARTMRNT POJ.JCV
PREMISES mENTJFJCA TJON
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Numbers or addresses shall be placed on all new and existing buildings in such a position
as to be plainly visible and legible from the street or road fronting the property. Said
numbers shall contrast with their background. Size and location of numbers shall be
approved by one of the following - Fire Marshal, Fire Inspector, Building Official,
Building Inspector.
Requirements are for new construction and existing buildings where no address numbers
are posted.
Othpr Rpqllirpmpntc _ r...nprsIIl
1. Numbers shall be a contrasting color from the background.
2. Numbers shall not be in script.
3. If a structure is not visible from the street. additional numbers are required at the driveway entrance.
Size and location must be approved.
4. Numbers on mail box at driveway entrance roB)' be 8 minimum of 4". However, requirement #3 must still
bernd.
5. Administrative authority may require additional numbers if deemed necessary.
RPli:irlrnfi!11 Rpqllirpmpnfc p nr I..u d",plllng unit'
J. Minimum height shall be 5 inches.
2. Building permits will not be finaled unless numbers are posted and approved by the Building Department.
C'nmmprrilll R"qllirrml'ntc
1. Minimum height shall be 12".
2. Multi·Tenant Buildings
a. Building address range, minimum height of 12 inches.
b. Address numbers required on all tenant doors. Minimum height of 6 inches.
3. If address numbers are located on a directory entry sign, additional numbers will be required on the
buildings main entrance.
4. Signage on overhead! delivery doors will also be required.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #29-1992
Date: 06/15/92
Revised: 4/12/00
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Chanh4ssm, MjnntSotll55317
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WATER SERVICE INSTALLATION POLICY
FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS
I) The Inspections Division shall be responsible for issuance of permits
No permit shall be issued until approval of plans have been obtained
from the following:
a) Engineering Department
b) Fire Marshal
c) Minnesota Department of Health
d) Plumbing Inspector
2) Mechanical inspectors will do all installation inspections and witness the
hydrostatic and conductivity tests. Call 937-1900 ext. 31 to schedule an
inspection.
Inspection and TestRequirements
a) All pipes shall be inspected before being covered. Phone 937-1900,
ext. 31, to schedule inspections. A 24 hour notice is required.
b) Conductivity test is required. The pipe shall be subjected to
minimum 350 amp test for a period of not less than 5 minutes.
c) Hydrostatic test required. All pipe shall be subjected to a
hydrostatic pressure of 150 PSI for 2 hours. Allowable pressure
drop shall not exceed 1 PSI.
d) Pipe shall not be run under buildings - NFP A 24, 8-3.1.
Inspections Division
Water Service Installation
Policy #34-1993
Date: 04/15/93
Revised: 4117/96
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3) Upon approval of the hydro test, the plumbing inspector shall submit a
copy of the inspection report to the utility superintendent The
inspection report shall note whether the system is ready for main flush
and drawing of water sample for the bug test.
4 ) Water main flushing shall be witnessed by the utility superintendent.
a) Watermain flushing may be scheduled by contacting the utility
superintendent at 474-2086. A 24 hour notice is required.
b) The utility superintendent shaI1 obtain a water sample for a
bacteria test after the main flush and deliver to a testing
company. The contractor shall be responsible for testing costs.
Allow two weeks for testing results to be returned to the City.
c) Upon receiving approval of the water sample test, the utility
superintendent shall submit a copy to each plumbing inspector
and turn water on to the tested and approved sections of the piping.
5) An additional supervised flush and flow test will be required and
witnessed by the Fire Marshal for services supplying fire suppression
systems. The flush and flow test shall be performed in accordance
with 1991 edition ofNFP A 13, Sec. 8-2.1. Contact the Chanhassen
Fire Marshal at 937-1900 ext. 132.
6) Watermain installations shall comply with:
a) Minnesota Plumbing Code, Chapter 4715
b) Chanhassen Engineering Department, Watermain Specifications
c) National Fire Protection Association, Chapter 24
7) Only authorized city employees are permitted to operate city water
control valves. For water turn on or off contact the utility
superintendent by phone 474-2086. A 24 hour notice is required.
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Water Service Installation
Policy #34-1993
Date: 04/15/93
Revised: 04/17/96
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CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIZE OF DOMESTIC WATER SERVICE ON A
COMBINATION DOMESTICIFIRE SPRINKLER SUPPLY LINE
1. Domestic water line shall not be greater than Y. pipe size of the
combination service water supply line.
2. 1 \1.," domestic off 6" line.
3. 2" domestic off 8" line.
4. 2 Y:z domestic off 10" line.
Option I:
Domestic sizes may be increased if it can be calculated hydraulically that
the demand by all domestic fixtures will not drop the fire sprinkler water
below its minimum gallonage required.
Option 2:
Combination domestic and fire line service shall have an electric
solenoid valve installed on the domestic side of the service. This
valve shall be normally powered open and close on loss of electric
power or signatftom the system wat~r flow indicator.
Must be approved by the Chanhassen Fire Marshal and Chanhassen
Mechanical Inspector.
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Chanhassen Fire Department
Water Line Sizing
Policy #36-1994
Date: 06/10/94
Revised: 11/24/99
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CHANHASSENFIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
CHANHASSENFIRE DEPARTMENT NOTES TO BE
INCLUDED ON ALL SITE PLANS
I.
Fire Marshal must witness the flushing of underground sprinkler
service line, per NFP A 13-8-2.1.
2. A fmal inspection by the Fire Marshal before a Certificate of
Occupancy is issued.
3. Fire DeDartment access roads shaH be provided on site during all
phases of construction. The construction of these temporary roads
will conform with the Chanhassen Fire Department requirements for
temporary access roads at construction sites. Details are available.
4. Oi1site fire hvdrants shall be provided and In operating condition
during all phases of c()ñstruction.
5. The ~ of liauefied Detroleum I!:as shall be in conformance with
NFP A Standard 58 and the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code. A list of
these requirements is available. (Seè policy #33-1993)
6. Allfire detectionÌmd firè sUDDression svstems shall be monitored by
an· approved UL central station with a UL 72 Certificate issued on
thesè systems before final occupancy is issued.
7. An 11" x 14" As Built shall be provided to the Fire Department. The
As Built shall be reproducible and acceptable to the Fire Marshal. .
(See policy #07-1991)ó ...
ChanhassenFire Departmènt
fire Prevention
Policy #94~199í
Date: 11/22/91
Revised: 06/05/98
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8. An aonroved lock box shall be provided on the building for fire
department use. The lock box should be located by the Fire
Department connection or as located by the Fire Marshal.
9. Hil!h-oiled combustible storage shall comolv with the requirements .
of Article #81 of the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code. High-piled
combustible storage is combustible materials on closely packed piles
more than 15' in height or combustible materials on pallets or in
racks more than 12' in height. For certain special-hazard
commodities such as rubber tires, plastics, some flammable liquids, .
idle pallets, etc. the critical pile height may be as low as 6 feet.
10. Fire lane signage shall be provided as required by the Fire Marshal.
(See policy #06-1991).
II. Maximum allowed size of domestic water service on a combination
domestic/fire sprinkler supply line policy must be followed. (See
policy #36-1994).
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Fire Prevention
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Sharmin AI-Jaff, Senior Planner
Steven Torell, Building Official ~
February 1,2002
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJ:
Site Plan review for American Legion Post #580
Planning Case: 2002-3 Subdivision and 2002-2 Site Plan
I have reviewed the plans for the above building received by the Planning
Department on January 15,2002. Following are my comments, which should be
included as conditions of approval.
1. The building is required to have an automatic fire extinguishing system.
2. The plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in
the St¡lte of Minnesota.
3. Demolition permits must be obtained form the Inspections Division before
demolishing any structures.
4. Detailed occupancy related code requirements will be reviewed when
complete plans are submitted. It is evident however that the assembly space
in the basement must be of one-hour fire-resistive construction and the exits
as designed do not comply with the code.
5. The proposed building on Lot 1 was not reviewed for building code
compliance.
6. The owner and or their representative shall meet with the Inspections
Division as soon as possible to discuss plan review and permit procedures.
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
690 City Center Drive
PO Box 147
ChanhilSsen. Minnesota 55317
Phone
952.937.1900
Ges/eral Fax
952.937.5739
Engineering Department Fax
952.937.9152
Building Department Fax
952.934.2524
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
Sharmin Al-Jaff, Senior Planner
Mahmoud Sweidan, Engineeréf
February 5, 2002
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJ:
Preliminary Plat Review of Park Nicollet 1st Addition (American
Legion) - Land Use Review File No. 01-20
Upon review of the plans dated January 15, 2002, prepared by Sunde Engineering,
Inc., I offer the following recommendations:
GRADlNGIDRAINAGE/EROSION CONTROL
The current plans show a building with a proposed floor elevation of960.75 on Lot I.
The future building on Lot 1 is shown with a proposed pad elevation of957.00. At
these elevations, storm water from the buildings will drain toward each of the
proposed catch basins. The parking lot storm drainage will be conveyed via storm
sewer to a proposed enlarged storm water pond at the southeasterly corner ofthe site
for treatment prior to discharging to the existing storm. sewer system. The applicant
should be aware they will be responsible for cleaning the existing storm water pond
after enlargements have been completed. The pond is required to be designed to
National Urban Runoff Program (NURP) standards.
The applicant has submitted drainage calculations for the site. Staff will work with
the applicant's engineer to revise the calculations. Prior to fmal platting, storm sewer
design data will need to be submitted for staff review. The storm sewer will have to
be designed for a 10-year, 24-hour storm event. Drainage and utility easements will
need to be dedicated on the final plat over the public storm drainage system including
ponds, drainage swales, and wetlands up to the 100-year flood level. The minimum
easement width shall be 20 feet wide. Emergency overflows from all stormwater
ponds will also be required on the construction plans.
Staff recommends that silt fence be added around the storm water pond grading limits
of the site. The silt fence must be Type II. All of the proposed rock construction
entrances must be lengthened to 75 feet as per City Detail Plate No. 5301.
UTILITIES
The plans propose on extending the sanitary sewer from the existing sanitary manhole
at Trunk Highway 5 and water from an existing watermain along the east side of the
The City of Chal/hassen. A i!!owin~ community with clean lakes. quality schooh. a charmin~ downtown. thrivin~ businesses. and beautilùl parks. A fT'eat place to live, work, and pla~
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February 5, 2002
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parcel. The watermain line will be considered a public utility line since it will serve
more than one lot. As such, minimum 20-foot wide easements will be required over
the public portion of the utility lines. Installation of the private utilities for the site
will require permits and inspections through the City's Building Department.
The site has been previously assessed for utilities in the amount of $36,866.03. Since
the developer will be installing the lateral utility lines, no additional lateral
connection fees will be applied. Each newly created lot will be subject to City
sanitary sewer and water hook up charges at the time of building permit issuance.
The 2002 trunk utility hook up charges are $1,383 per unit for sanitary sewer and
$1,802 per unit for water.
Public utility improvements will be required to be constructed in accordance with the
City's latest edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates. Detailed
construction plans and specifications will be required at the time of final platting.
The applicant will also be required to enter into a development contract with the City
and supply the necessary financial security in the form of a letter of credit or cash
escrow to guarantee installation of the improvements and the conditions of final plat
approval. Permits ftom the appropriate regulatory agencies must be obtained,
including but not limited to the MPCA, Department of Health, Watershed District,
Carver County, MnDOT, etc.
STREETS AND PARKING LOT
No public streets are proposed as part of this project. The applicant is proposing full
access to the site ftom Lake Drive East and will utilize another existing right-in/right-
out access (south ofthe parcel) that is shared with the Hidden Valley 2nd Addition
(gas station) onto Great Plains Boulevard. The applicant should be aware that they
will be responsible for closing off the existing American Legion (west) access,
removing the existing bituminous and tying in between the curb along Great Plains
Boulevard ( east side). Also, the two accesses shall be connected to serve the
proposed American Legion building. Staffhas no objections to the location of these
accesses. Concrete driveway aprons will be required for the access. As the two
accesses will service more than one lot, cross-access easements will need to be
obtained and recorded against the lots.
RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. Private utility easements will be required for the storm sewer line that runs
ftom Lot 2 to Lot I.
2. Add the following City ofChanhassen Detail Plate Nos. 1002, 1004, 1006,
2101,2109,2201-2205,3101,3106-3108,5204,5207,5214, 5234 and 5300.
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February 5, 2002
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3. Prior to final plat approval, a professional civil engineer registered in the state
of Minnesota must sign all plans.
4. The pond is required to be designed to National Urban Runoff Program
(NURP) standards.
5. Cross-access easements for the shared driveway accesses must be obtained
and recorded against the lots.
6. The minimum rock construction entrance must be 75 feet.
7. The applicant must obtain a permit from MnDOT for grading in the right-of-
way.
8. Staff will work with the applicant's engineer to revise the calculations. Prior
to final platting, storm sewer design data will need to be submitted for staff
review. The storm sewer will have to be designed for a 10-year, 24-hour
storm event. Drainage and utility easements will need to be dedicated on the
final plat over the public storm drainage system including ponds, drainage
swales, and wetlands up to the 100-year flood level. The minimum easement
width shall be 20 feet wide. Emergency overflows from all stormwater ponds
will also be required on the construction plans.
9. Staff recommends that silt fence be added around the east side of storm water
pond grading limits ofthe site. The silt fence must be Type II. All of the
proposed rock construction entrances must be lengthened to 75 feet as per
City Detail Plate No. 5301.
10. Any off-site grading will require easements from the appropriate property
owner.
11. Minimum 20-foot wide easements will be required over the public portion of
the utility lines.
12. Installation of the private utilities for the site will require permits and
inspections through the City's Building Department.
13. Each newly created lot will be subject to City sanitary sewer and water hook
up charges at the time of building permit issuance. The 2002 trunk utility
hook up charges are $1,383 per unit for sanitary sewer and $1,802 per unit for
water.
14. Public utility improvements will be required to be constructed in accordance
with the City's latest edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates.
Sharmin Al-Jaff
February 5, 2002
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Detailed construction plans and specifications will be required at the time of
final platting. The applicant will also be required to enter into a development
contract with the City and supply the necessary financial security in the form
of a letter of credit or cash escrow to guarantee installation of the
improvements and the conditions of final plat approval. Permits from the
appropriate regulatory agencies must be obtained, including but not limited to
the MPCA, Department of Health, Watershed District, Carver County,
MnDOT, etc.
15. Cross-access easements will need to be obtained and recorded against the lots
for each of the entrance drives.
16. On the utility plan:
- Revise catch basin nos. 2, 3, 4, and 7 to catch basin manhole nos. 2, 3, 4,
and 7.
- Revise sheet title to "Preliminary Utility Plan".
- Shift the watermain toward the southeast corner adjacent to the curb and call
the fittings.
- Show the utilities easement.
- Add a storm sewer schedule.
- Change the type of public watermain from DIP to PVC C-900.
- Show the proposed pipe slope, class and length of the storm sewer.
- Under the Sewer and Water Notes, add, "All sanitary services shall be 6"
PVC SDR26.
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17. On the grading plan:
- Show all existing and proposed easements.
- Show the benchmark used for the site survey.
- Add a note "clean existing pond after pond enlargement grading is finished".
- Revise sheet title to "Preliminary Grading, Drainage & Erosion Control
Plan".
- Add a note for removing existing bituminous and close off the existing
(west) American Legion access.
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Matt Saam, Assistant City Engineer
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 2002 AT 7:00 P.M.
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7700 MARKET BLVD.
PROPOSAL: Subdivision and Site Plan Review
APPLICANT: American Legion Post #580
LOCATION: Hwy. 5 and Great Plains Blvd.
NOTICE: You are invited to attend a public hearing about a proposal in your area. The applicant, American
Legion Post #580, is requesting subdivision of 5.584 acres into two lots and Site Plan Review with variances
for the construction of an 8,617 square foot building located on the southeast comer of the intersection of
Highway 5 and Great Plains Boulevard. Park Nicollet 1st Addition.
What Happens at the Meeting: The purpose of this public hearing is to inform you about the applicant's
request and to obtain input from the neighborhood about this project. During the meeting, the Chair will lead
the public hearing through the following steps:
1. Staff will give an overview of the proposed project.
2. The applicant will present plans on the project.
3. Comments are received from the public.
4. Public hearing is closed and the Commission discusses the project.
Questions and Comments: If you want to see the plans before the meeting, please stop by City Hall during
office hours, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. If you wish to talk to someone about this project,
please contact Sharmeen 227-1134. If you choose to submit written comments, it is helpful to have one
copy to the department in advance of the meeting. Staff will provide copies to the Commission.
Notice of this public hearing has been published in the Chanhassen Villager on February 7,2002.
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City Review Procedure
Subdivisions, Planned Unit Developments, Site Plan Reviews, Conditional and Interim
Uses, Wetland Alterations, Rezonings, Comprehensive Plan Amendments, Code
Amendments require a public hearing before the Planning Commission. City
ordinances require all property within 500 feet of the subject site to be notified of the
application in writing. Any interested party is invited to attend the meeting.
The staff prepares a report on the subject application. This report includes all pertinent
information and a recommendation. These reports are available by request. At the
Planning Commission meeting, staff will give a verbal overview of the report and a
recommendation. The item will be opened for the public to speak about the proposal
as a part of the hearing process. The Commission will close the public hearing and
discuss the item and make a recommendation to the City Council. The City Council .
may reverse, affirm or modify wholly or partly the Planning Commission's
recommendation. Rezonings, land use and code amendments take a simple majority
vote of the City Council except rezonings and land use amendments from residential to
commerciaVindustrial.
Minnesota State Statute 519.99 requires all applications to be processed within 60 days
unless the applicant waives this standard. Some applications due to their complexity
may take several months to complete. Any person wishing to follow an item through
the process should check with the Planning Department regarding its status and
scheduling for the City Council meeting.
A neighborhood spokesperson/representative is encouraged to provide a contact for
the city. Often developers are encouraged to meet with the neighborhood regarding
their proposal. Staff is also .available to review the project with any interested
person(s).
Because the Planning Commission holds the public hearing, the City Council does not.
Minutes are taken and any correspondence regarding the application will be included in
the report to the City Council. If you wish to have something to be included in the
report, please contact the Planning Staff person named on the notification.
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CHANHASSEN MN 55317
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440 79TH ST W
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
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250 HIDDEN LN
CHANHASSEN
MN 55317
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260 HIDDEN LN
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
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280 HIDDEN LN
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LEE & MARY KAUFMAN
300 HIDDEN LN
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310 HIDDEN LN
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
MARK A METZ
320 HIDDEN LN
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330 HIDDEN LN
CHANHASSEN MN 55317
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION
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A list of a" property 0WI1e1$ Within 500 feet 01 the boundaries 01 1M property must be Included wnh tne
appllcallon. - REQUEST G-f7Y OF c.IIWJ/~ú.J íb ?1l.£!4R.E
BuIldIng materlalnmp/e8 mullt be submitted with cite Plan revlllW&
"TwerIty"8lx full.lzø 1A1åII copies 01 the Plans muilt b. aubmltted, Inok/cIIng an 8%:" X 11" reduc:ed copy 01
transparency for each plan sheet.
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NOTE· When multiple applications are prooesl>ed. the appropriate fee shall be charged lor each BppflCstion.
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This app\ìçatiOII must be complel9d in full and be typewritten or clearly printed and must be accompanied by aft information
and plans mqujred by applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before tiling this application, you should confer with the Planning
Depar1ment to determine the specific ordinance and procedural requirementS applicable to your application.
A t!etermlnatJon of completeness of lhe application shall be made within ten business days of application submIttal. A written
notice Dr application dellcll!flcies shB,\1 be mailed to !I1tIeppllcan! within IIIn business days of appllcallon.
ThiÎI is to cø11lly that I 8/TI making application for the described action by !he City and that I am reaponsible for complying with
aD City reQUirements with regard to this request. ThIs application should be processed in my name and I 8/TI the party whom
the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application. I have attached a copy of proof of ownÐl$hlp (either
copy of Owne(s Duplicate Certificate of· TItle. Ab$qct of TItle or purchase agreement), or I am the autha~d person to make
this apþJicalløn and the fee owner has also signed this appRcatlan.
1 Wi11 klHl¡> myself Informed of the deadlines for submIssion 01 material atld tile progress of this appHcatlon. further
understand thaI additiOnal fees may be charged for consulting fees. feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any
authoriZatJon to proceed WIth the study. The documents and Information I haw submItted are true and COmtct to the be.t of
my knowledge.
The city hentby notifies the appllc.ant that development review cannot be completed wfthi1 60 days due to pubØc hearing
Tequlrements and agençy review. Therefore. the oity Is notifying the applioant th<lt the oily raqulre8 an automatic eo day
ÐXlensiOn for development review. Development review shall be complBled within 120 daya unless addllfonal review
extensions are approved by ths applicant.
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Planning Commission Meeting - February 19,2002
Kind: Yeah.
Sacchet: Okay. Alright. Thank you.
BIackowiak: We'll go ahead. There's been a motion and a second.
Sidney moved, Claybaugh seconded that the Planning Commission recommends denial of the
variance for the use of a private street based on the findings in the staff report, and denial of the
variance for the 60 by 60 foot building pad requirement. All voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously 5 to O.
BIackowiak: Okay. Next.
Sacchet: Madam Chair. I'd like to make a motion that the Planning Commission tables approval of the
preliminary plat for Knob Hill 2"" Addition as submitted.
BIackowiak: Okay. Been a motion. Is there a second?
Sidney: Second.
Sacchet moved, Sidney seconded that the Planning Commission tables approval of the preliminary
plat for Knob Hill 2"" Addition as submitted. AIl voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously 5 to O.
Sidney: Madam Chair, direction for staff?
BIackowiak: Yes. So I was going to say, we need some direction here. So I think we all made some
comments concerning I think in general the wish for a public street rather than a private street. We
would like staff to work with the applicant to look at reducing the right-of-way from 60 to 50 feet.
Possibility of shifting that public street to the west a little bit. and in that same vein realignment of Lots
1,2, and 3, Block 2. Pulling them a little bit closer, a little bit further to the southeast or southwest
actually that would be. And same thing with Lot 1. Or Block 1, Lots 4, 5 and 6. Potentially just shifting
as available to pull them a little bit away from the slope and the trees back there. And then also Vii had
talked about a 60 foot preservation easement, tree preservation easement around the entire thing. Look
into that. Commissioners, anything to add that I'm missing here.
Sidney: I guess encourage the applicant to bring this before the neighbors again for discussion.
BIackowiak: And I know we have kind of a short time line but we want to try to keep this moving
through and just keep the lines of communication open. Any other comments? Alright, and I'd like to
thank all the neighbors tonight who got up and took their time to speak before us this evening. We really
appreciate that. And right I'm going to take a 5 minute recess before item number 4 which is the project
for the Legion site. So 5 minutes, we'll be right back.
PUBLIC HEARING:
CONSIDER THE REOUEST FOR SUBDIVISION OF 5.584 ACRES INTO TWO LOTS AND
SITE PLAN REVIEW WITH VARIANCES FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN 8.617 SOUARE
34
Planning Commission Meeting - February 19,2002
FOOT BUILDING LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF
HIGHWAY 5 AND GREAT PLAINS BOULEVARD. PARK NICOLLET 1ST ADDITION.
AMERICAN LEGION POST #580.
Public Present:
Name
Address
John Keeler
Don Magee
Kenneth M. Wicklund
Bemie Hamilton
Joey Townsend
Paul Differding
Eric H. Weidner
Bob Meuwissen
Steven Lillehaug
Pat Hallisey
Dean Williamson
75 Thomas Lane
7995 Great Plains Boulevard
3970 Linden Circle
7995 Great Plains Boulevard
8043 Erie Avenue
7228 Frontier Trail
7031 Redwing Lane
201 West 77th Street
1441 Heron Drive
1304 West Medicine Lake Drive, Plymouth
6029 Killamey Lane, Edina
Sharmiu AI-Jaff presented the staff report on this item.
Blackowiak:: Alright commissioners, questions for staff? Any questions Deb?
Kind: Yes I do Madam Chair. Sharmin, you did a great job of hitting most of my questions. The one,
couple of questions. On the recommended conditions. I'm on page 19. Number 6 talks about a detailed
lighting plan and it appears that there is a lighting plan in our packet. I'm assuming that you mean, you
want more specifics about fixtures and that sort of stuff.
Al-Jaff: Yes.
Kind: Maybe put a little added language in there for clarity. And then condition number 20 that you're
recommending on page 21 is not really worded as a condition. I assume you're open to re-wording that
to get more of a condition.
Al-Jaff: Yes.
Kind: And then number 28. Is that one affected, this is on page 22. Is that condition affected by this
new change of where that right-inlright-out is going to be located?
Al-Jaff: No. It still remains the same.
Kind: For clarity would it make sense to include in there where it's to be located?
Al-Jaff: Sure. Access onto Great Plains Boulevard from future Lot I, Block 1.
Kind: Shall be restricted.
AI-Jaff: Shall be restricted to.
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Kind: That helps me for clarity. And then I noticed you got the recycling condition that's new. That
looks good.
AI-Jaff: If I may add one condition. Commissioner Kind asked me to add, she called it Uli's condition.
Kind: Oh yes.
Sacchet: Thank you.
Sidney: What is it Uli?
Kind: On number 20.
Sacchet: I was very happy to see it in there.
AI-Jaff: It should, we need to add silt, to condition number 20. We need to add silt fence shall be
removed upon completion of the project.
Kind: Which is known as the Vii condition.
AI-Jaff: Yes.
Kind: That's it for me for staff.
Blackowiak: Okay. Other questions? Do you have questions?
Sacchet: Yes. I have some questions. First of all, I'm still a little unclear where those not contrasting
medallions are. If you could just help me out of that.
Al-Jaff: Sure.
Sacchet: It's those squares on top of what is like columns between the windows?
AI·Jaff: Correct.
Sacchet: Alright. I was just wanted to confirm.
AI-Jaff: And if you look at your material.
Sacchet: Yeah, they're not contrasting. It's very definite.
AI-Jaff: This is what you will be looking at.
Sacchet: Yeah, okay.
AI-Jaff: We suggested something more in the.
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Sacchet: That would be a contrast. Then I just want to clarify, the way this plan is in front of us, pretty
much all the trees are gone. Is that an accurate observation? Except just those couple scraggly ones that
happen to be on the corner there. Southwest corner that is.
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AI-Jaff: That is an accurate statement. There are quite a, some of those trees are dead.
Sacchet: Some of them aren't in good shape. Some of them are. Actually some of them in the comer
that don't get affected are dead. That's one of the problems I have. The ones that are not in the way are
actually not in so good shape and the ones in good shape are seem to be pretty much all of them in the
parking lot.
AI-Jaff: That's true.
Sacchet: Okay. Just want to make sure that I read this correctly. I don't want to read too much into it.
Now in the past we used to say no to Colorado Spruce and have them do Black Hills Spruce. I don't
know, that's kind of a Jill question but there's definitely Colorado Spruce specified in this, and I don't
know. do we have a change in the.
AI-J aff: I can check with Jill on that.
Sacchet: Yeah.
AI-Jaff: I'm not a tree expert but if there is...
Sacchet: Yeah, in the past you used to have conditions that you would say they should do Black Hills
Spruce or different than Colorado Spruce because our climate is I believe too humid or something that
they don't do so well here. I'm not the expert but, so I want to make sure we're consistent. Now, one
thing that kind of startled me on page 9, when it talks about the grading it says that the applicant will
extend the NURP pond and then will be responsible for maintaining it because if they change it, they're
going to have to maintain the whole thing. Is that what you're saying or?
Al-Jaff: No. It's a shared maintenance.
Sacchet: It will be still shared?
AI-J aff: Agreement, correct.
Sacchet: From the staff report I didn't come away with that understanding. Then with the parking
requirements, we say well we calculated according to ordinance 156, but then they went out and made a
study and the study said 120 and now 120 is fine. Please help me out. Is the ordinance, is something
missing in the ordinance or does the ordinance state if somebody goes out and has a different study, then
that supercedes the ordinance or how exactly does that work?
AI-Jaff: Well, in the past whenever we've had compatible uses, we've always suggested, let's go with
something that makes sense. And this is a perfect example of when a situation does make sense.
Sacchet: Because it's the shared and it's different use. I mean I don't have a problem with that
conclusion is right.
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AI-Jaff: The timing on both of them is very compatible.
Sacchet: So it's really on that basis that it's.
AI-Jaff: Correct.
Sacchet: Okay. Because I was wondering whether we need to do something about this ordinance
because it seemed to be brushed aside more easily here.
AI-Jaff: No. The ordinance works. The only other time we've used this is with churches versus office.
Sacchet: Okay. Now since we are talking shared parking, what do, do you know what the timeframe is?
Maybe we should ask the applicant that the clinic will actually be developed, because as of right now it
would not be developed.
AI-Jaff: 18 months from now.
Sacchet: 18 months. About 2 years, okay.
AI-Jaff: At least that's their estimate.
Sacchet: Okay. Has there been any consideration coming back to the trees, has there been any
consideration given to try to save some of these incredible trees that are in good shape?
AI-Jaff: We have suggested retaining walls. The trees that are within the main drive aisles, they've
suggested that they have to take them out. In the past what we've done, when you have trees in the
middle of a parking lot. Not a drive aisle, but where yòu actually park the car, we've turned those into
islands.
Sacchet: So there has been some consideration to make an island or 2 or 3.
Al-Jaff: We've talked about it. Now there will be grading on that site. In some areas there will be.
cutting or filling, approximately 3 feet so we need to really look at.
Sacchet: Well there are 4 real significant trees, and only one seems to have a chance to survive. One is
kind of by the corner of where the building pad is for the clinic so that's a goner. That's actually the best
one of all. That's, what a 26 inch oak there? And then west of that is a 30 inch oak together with those
evergreens. That one seems to have a chance to be maintained, correct?
Al-Jaff: Correct.
Sacchet: That one is, yeah. However, the best, the biggest ones are the 48 incher and the 36 inch oak,
kind towards the eastern side of that grove there. Like just north of the Citgo building. You with me?
The 48 and 36. There's only one 48 and one 36.
AI-Jaff: Here's the 36 and here's the.
Sacchet: The 48 is just south of it.
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AI-Jaff: Okay.
Sacchet: And it could be a case made that both of those are in the drive aisle?
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AI-Jaff: Yes they are.
Sacchet: Okay. So there is no consideration trying to save those? Because they're in good shape and
they're huge. They're hundreds of years old. They would survive us all if you take care ofthem.
AI-Jaff: We can work with the applicant.
Blackowiak: I think that's a Jill question.
Sacchet: Ijust want a concern. We'll get back to that. We don't have to belabor it right now. I'll
belabor it a little more.
Blackowiak: I'm not worried.
Sacchet: Moving on. The signs. The signs. You're saying that only 4 signs without pennit per lot, so
and they're already using 2 so there are only 2 left for the clinic then?
Al-Jaff: No. It's 4 directional signs per.
Sacchet: Right, the directional ones is what I'm talking about.
Al-Jaff: Correct. There are 2 separate lots.
Sacchet: So they each can have 4.
Al-Jaff: Correct.
Sacchet: So it's not like they're using up 2 and then the other one is only stuck with 2. The other one is
going to have 4. It's going to be treated like that, okay.
AI-Jaff: So the entire site would enable 8.
Sacchet: That clarifies that very nicely. And we're clear that we're not approving any signs with this
one. When we say. in the building.. . saying that the exits as designed do not comply with code. I kind of
wonder well what's missing? Is that maybe an engineering question?
Sidney: Fire code.
AI-Jaff: What we ran into something similar when we were constructing the senior center. Certain
distance and number of doors out of a building, but these issues will be resolved as soon as the architect
and the applicant meet with the building official.
Sacchet: That's all my questions, thank you.
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Blackowiak: Okay. Questions LuAnn?
Sidney: Everybody's covered my questions.
Blackowiak: Okay.
Claybaugh: I've got nothing to add.
Blackowiak: Okay. And 1 don't think I have any questions right now. Oh wait, I lied. Under the change
that you gave us, page 12, talk to me about why the east property line, buffer yard was changed.
AI-Jaff: Staff miscalculated.
Blackowiak: Okay, no problem. That answers my question. That was an easy one. At this point would
the applicant or their designee like to make a presentation? Please step forward to the podium and state
your name and address for the record.
Dan Doege: Madam Chair and contDÙssion members. My name is Dan Doege. I'm with Ben Daniels
Architects. We're the architects for the American Legion. .. .and before we get started and forget, I want
to thank Sharmin and the staff who have been very gracious in helping us through this process. We are
here before you to ask for your approval on this and send this forward to City Council. I think that the
Legion has been in your neighborhood since the 50's and we're looking at a very significant upgrade in
it's existing structures on site. And we're looking at a very nice development for the comer of one of
your major intersections in the city. We believe have produced a very nice looking building that fits into
the topography of the particular site very nicely. Where it snuggles up against the eastern side toward the
hill, and basically shields a lot of the parking from the Highway number 5. And between either the
berming that we're going to do or the structure. And so the, with me tonight, in case I'm not able to
answer your questions. I have a couple of the board members from the Legion, Tom.. .and Gene Borg and
so between us hopefully we can answer all your questions. Instead of going through this entire
development before you, I guess I would rather answer questions and because when we looked at your
staff report and looking at their comments starting on page 16 under recommendations starting on page
16, we are in concurrence with all of them, with a few exceptions that I will state. But basically the, it's
obvious that there will have to gain building permit approval through the building inspector and we'll
have to be in compliance...It's a very minor issue that we're talking about. I believe it's a wall and a
door that we're talking about to meet the city code... And we'll obviously have to take these and get
permits and do the things that are listed as being required so those are all non-points. The issue that
Sharmin brought up, was one of these access drive into the site off of Lake Drive East. And the question
as to when it gets developed, basically how it gets developed. Right now it's key to kind ofthink about
how this particular project is going to move forward. We plan on keeping the Legion open while we
build the new building so the access off of Great Plains Boulevard is important to us while we keep the
building open and we would use the Lake Drive East for the construction traffic. And when that is
done...what we would like to do is when we build that access drive to the south part of the property, we
would like to build that only up to the property line. And because this Phase IT development that you see
of the proposed clinic is not designed yet. This is conceptual in it's form. The parking lot isn't nailed
down 100 percent. And what, and also the grading plan is not 100 percent done. If we were to develop
that road all the way through. that would limit the development that was going to be, and 18 months from
now if we get your approval and can move forward.. .to the City Council, we hope to have a facility open
by September of this year. October. So we're talking about a year's delay in time basically between one
project and another. And so what we would like to do is one of two things. Either allow us to just have
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the one entrance, which I understand is an issue in some cases, but the one entrance off of Lake Drive
East. Or allow us to temporarily use the bituminous and the bit of Class V that is there between the Great
Plains Boulevard and Lake Drive East that's basically part of the Legion parking lot now as a temporary
access then until the clinic is fully designed and constructed. I know that there can be concems that
maybe if something doesn't happen and that lot sits forever and ever, well I don't see that lot sitting
forever and ever right on the comer like that. It's too valuable. And what the shame of it is, if we go
ahead and put that drive in right now, we are going to be tearing it up in another year and what good is
that? If we put that drive in now, maybe we're recovering more existing landscaping than what the
ultimate design would be so we would choose not to want to continue that drive towards the east. And
so either use what's there so we don't prematurely take down a tree that may be able to survive the
ultimate design, or allow us to just do the access drive as far as the edge of our property to the west. That
is the major, for us the major issue basically. Like I said, our greatest goal here is to gain your approval
and to move forward to City Council. We have a time line that is very time sensitive, as you have never
heard I'm sure in your entire life... The other thing I'm just going to throw up, and it's in regards to the
sidewalk that, or the trail easement access north and south that is being proposed. And while we're not
opposed to that, I would just bring it up as a point of question as to whether that is of high value for this
particular facility. There is the walking path along Lake Drive East, but pedestrian traffic to the Legion
is minimal at best and instead of taking 5 more feet and making a concrete, we could leave 5 more feet
into landscaped area. And so while it's not a huge issue as far as we're concerned, we're willing to go
either way with this. We'd just like to throw it up for your discussion, So with that I will ask you if you
have any questions. Like I say here myself or the Legion is here to answer any questions.
Blackowiak: Okay. commissioners any questions of this applicant? Craig.
Claybaugh: I guess I first directed with respect to the easement to Bob and help clarify it. Does that
easement, is that intended to tie in with that pedestrian bridge that comes over 5 at this point?
Generous: For this...
Claybaugh: Yes.
Generous: Yes.
Claybaugh: Okay.
Blackowiak: No. No. No, not directly.
Generous: Lake Drive East ties into it.
Al·Jaff: You're referring to the sidewalk in the middle of the parking lot. The sidewalk is along Lake
Drive, and the pedestrian bridge is further to the east of that across Highway 5. This is basically to carry
individuals through the parking lot to the Legion building and then we would extend this out to Lake
Drive. So it's a combination. It would serve two purposes. The first one is people that are parked out
here would be able to use the sidewalk if you will to get to the Legion. At the same time. it's another
connection that would extend out to Lake Drive.
Blackowiak: Questions Deb.
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Blackowiak: No? Any questions for the applicant?
Sacchet: Of course. Well I guess what I want to ask you about, those trees.
Dan Doege: Are we talking about these trees right here?
Sacchet: Yes. If you, as noted on the plan there you see which ones are 48 inch and close to it is a 36
inch. Those are the two that I'm really concerned about because they're in good health, as far as I can
tell, and they're huge. They're old. They're beautiful. They're really a landmark and I think they're
invaluable for the city. And so looking at where they are, they're sort of in a drive aisle.
Dan Doege: I understand what you're saying and I'll answer it in two parts. First of all I will reiterate
that we would like not to have to put in that access drive now, pre-empting any development plans for the
clinic...So that's point number one. Point numbertwo is, this clinic site is not designed yet. It's not
nailed down and I work for the Legion in developing their eastern parcel here so what's drawn on the
west is not 100 percent.
Sacchet: That's just a concept.
Dan Doege: That's just a concept and I don't have the, nor does the Legion have control over those trees
in this design. And so what I would say is, that would be something that would move forward when that
particular piece was developed and comes before you.
Sacchet: If I may just clarify with staff. When the clinic comes in, is that something does not come in
front of us?
Al-Jaff: Yes.
Sacchet: It will be? Okay.~Because that's one thing I want to be real clear. I mean we have this concept
plan and we're asked to recommend approval of the concept between the two, even though only the
Legion is the piece that you're focused on and have the details worked out. Ijust want to be real clear
that when the clinic happens, we're going to go through the review cycle.
Al-Jaff: Absolutely.
Sacchet: And we can address that tree aspect at that point. Okay. Now, there is a tree aspect that
touches even what you're doing now. There is, like it's drawn on your views as, like that long stretch of
trees that at this point it goes along the soccer field. And they're not as spectacular as those oaks, that's a
given. And certainly most of those will have to be cut. That's a given. But at the same time I'd like to
ask you whether it would be possible, and here we could do it outside the drive aisle. I mean there could
possibly be one or two islands where you could preserve a small grouping of those trees that I know it's a
long stretch and I don't know whether it would work out, but if there would be one like somewhere on
the property line. That could be an area where you could possibly make a small island with saving some
of those trees. I think that would be a real nice touch. Possibly...
Dan Doege: .. . north ofthe...
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Sacchet: Yes, south of the cut and basically about halfway between where you have that cut going across
the two properties.
Dan Doege: Between the access drive and the parking lot?
Sacchet: Yes. Let's see. Yeah. Right, if you move your finger up about, little more. Little more. Little
more. Little more. Yeah, that's where they are.
Dan Doege: This island right here?
Sacchet: No. They're on the property line. I don't think over by the island you're going to have much
trees, but on the property line.
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Dan Doege: That's something that I guess when we get to the construction we can certainly look at
seeing what is savable. . .and such.
Sacchet: Yeah, and if the trees are good and healthy there too. I mean that's.. .
Dan Doege: ...they're not going to be damaged and such. That is certainly something we can look at
and work with staff to see what can be saved.
Blackowiak: Again, that's a Jill question.
Sacchet: Okay. Alright, that was my question for you. Thanks for addressing that.
Blackowiak: And I guess I don't have any. Oh, I do have one question I guess of the applicant.
Dan Doege: Well they're talking about further between the two parking 10ts...I should clarify on your
last point. If the sidewalk goes in, the north/south sidewalk, that reduces the landscape area that might
allow that.
Sacchet: I'm aware of that.
Dan Doege: Okay. And so anyways...
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you. And I just had one question. You went through some conditions. Are
there any others that you have issue with or are you comfortable with the conditions as stated? With the
exception that you already.
Dan Doege: Right. As stated, I believe the conditions start on page 16.
Blackowiak: Correct, for the subdivision we have 1 through 18.
Dan Doege: Those are.. .I brought up everything that we have.
Blackowiak: Okay, and then the site plan we have I through 35 now. We added a couple.
Dan Doege: Right. And we're also in agreement that we do need to get together with the property owner
to the south and also the clinic and come up with written agreements that we...
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Blackowiak: Cross access, right. Okay, great. Good for you Shannin. Anyone else from the Legion like
to get up and say anything at this point? No? Oh come on up. We're a friendly bunch.
Tom Bazinsky: My name's Tom Bazinsky. I'm...
Blackowiak: Okay, could you just grab the mic and, there you go.
Tom Bazinsky: I hate these things.
Blackowiak: Oh I know.
Tom Bazinsky: My name is Tom Bazinsky. I'm President of the Housing Corporation and if the Board
has any questions as far as the operation of the Legion Club, what we intend to do, I'd be glad to answer
those questions. I think Dan Doege did a good job relaying our objections and our accent to all of the
issues that the staff came up with so we don't have anything. Basically the only issue we had was with
the access from Great Plains Boulevard over to the Legion property and I think we've pretty much agreed
on what we can do there.
Blackowiak: And the location.
Tom Bazinsky: If you have any questions as far as the operation, what we're going to do, what we have
planned.
Blackowiak: I would assume, and I guess I'm assuming, similar operation to what you have right now
but larger obviously.
Tom Bazinsky: Yeah, the Legion club itself.
Blackowiak: Is still serving food.
Tom Bazinsky: The bar and stuff will stay the same.
Blackowiak: Meetings.
Tom Bazinsky: We're still going to be serving breakfast. It's the best breakfast in town. One thing that
the club is going to bring to the city itself is the banquet facility. You know the city has a real need for
that and that's part of what we're proposing to do. So we think it's going to really enhance what goes on
around town. We're going to be able to draw more people in to different functions that we have and also
to the different businesses around the neighborhood. The plan that we've got, it's taken a lot of work.
We've been working on this thing for 6 years, okay.
Blackowiak: We keep hearing about it. We just, nice to finally see something.
Tom Bazinsky: And everybody thought it was a rumor but no, we've been working on it for 6 years.
This is the evolution that it's come to now. Park Nicollet is a very compatible business with us. Their
business hours, peak business hours are totally different from our's. The one thing, one of the reasons
why it took so long was the access off of Great Plains Boulevard. Closing that down totally eliminated
any retail that you could look at. And Park Nicollet's been very, they've been just wonderful people to
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work with. You know they've given us just about everything we've asked of them so I think it's, once
it's aid and done it's going to be a great project.
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you.
Sacchet: Can I ask you a question?
Blackowiak: Oh sure.
Sacchet: Well I figure the horse shoe won't be there anymore but that's not my question. The question
is, and it's kind of a detail. In the condition it says you're going to have to apply for a liquor license.
You already have one.
Tom Bazinsky: We already have one, yes.
Sacchet: But they can't be transferred to a new building, is that why there's a condition?
Tom Bazinsky: I think because the address may change, you have to re-apply. I'm not quite sure but I
think that's probably has something to do with it.
Blackowiak: Just a formality.
Tom Bazinsky: Don? Don's here. If our Club Manager was here, he could answer that. He went back
to doing his job. We already have a liquor license, it's just going to have to be moved to a different
address.
Dave Wagner: Good evening. My name's Dave Wagner. I'm a resident of Chanhassen for 11 years and
Ijust want to say that these gentlemen here tonight that represent the Legion, and the Legion's been in
this town for a long time and I don't know another organization in this community that has done such a
wonderful job of donating money and doing such a great contribution to society than the American
Legion. And I would love to ask you folks to take that in a great consideration into anything that these
gentlemen and the club was asking for. Thank you.
Sacchet: Okay. That answers it, thank you.
Blackowiak: Okay.
Blackowiak: Okay, thanks. Alright with that I will open the public hearings so if anyone else would like
to step up to the microphone and make a comment, please feel free to do so.
Pat Hallisey: I'm Pat Hallisey. I'm the managing partner of the partnership that owns the strip center
just next door to the existing Legion Club. And I guess the first thing I'd like to say is we are really
looking forward to this development. We've enjoyed being neighbors with the Legion for these last 15
years and we look forward to the addition of Park Nicollet so we strongly support the development. We
also are in favor of the agreement that the 3 property owners have worked out regarding the location of
the new access and the condition number 34 attached to the recommendations. Regarding the timing, it's
not my business but I'm going to comment on it. It really makes no difference to us when that access is
moved. We know it's going to be moved for 15 years. We've known that some day it was going to be
moved. but it just makes sense to me in my judgment that these people are in there. They're operating.
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They're using that access now. They've been using it for a long, long time. 1 don't see why they can't
continue to use that access and the property that they have to drive on until the new building is built and
the old one comes down. Just makes common sense to me. And they're using it now. Why not just let
them use it as is until such time as they need to build a new building there. I guess those are my
comments.
Blackowiak: Alright, thank you.
Dan Doege: Usually at this point it's better for me not to say anything because everything seems to be
going very well but I would be really remiss if I did not put this on the table because Sharmin worked so
hard on this model of our building and we've never, ever had a planner do a model for an architect
before.
Blackowiak: She must really like you guys.
Dan Doege: She did such a nice job, I want to thank her.
Blackowiak: I said Sharmin must really like you guys I guess.
Dan Doege: I think she's tired of seeing us.
Bob Savard: Good evening. My name is Bob Savard. I live at 880 Marsh Drive. I guess I'm the closest
residential neighborhood to this development too. And as always, in the past, my concern has been the
traffic on Lake Drive. What's going to happen with the, this is a new concern. What's happening with.
the storm water runoff? Because as it is now I believe the storm water runoff from the parking lot for the
Citgo gas station and that development goes right through my back yard. And thirdly, traffic. What will
happen if there is no access from this development to Great Plains Boulevard? I don't see that traffic
now as a neighbor, but I will certainly see it as, especially since there will be no left hand. Help me. I
don't understand this very well, but the only left hand entrance would be from Lake Drive East.
Blackowiak: Correct.
Bob Savard: And I'm very concerned about that so. And the trees.
Sacchet: Thank you.
Bob Savard: I love the trees. I look at the trees and I look at the development across the street from my
house, and the backdrop is trees. And I'm absolutely positive that those trees are a sound buffer between
my home and my neighbors homes and Highway 5. Over the last 8 years I've seen 50 acres worth of
trees disappear in the development of Villages on the Ponds. I was very concerned about that but you
know be that as it may, they cut them all down. And now I understand that some of the trees behind the
Citgo station are not well. One has disappeared over the last few years and perhaps there is another that
needs to be removed. But the remaining trees, I'd hate to see them go. Thank you.
Blackowiak: Okay, thank you. Staff, could Ijust get any comments about runoff. Where does that water
go from Citgo right now? I don't know who wants to, Matt is that you?
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Sweidan: The drainage from Citgo so far it's not been added in the plans. I mean we...see it from the
plans right now but overall the. . .development it's going to be conveyed by a stonn sewer system. All of
it conveyed to our proposed environmental stonn pond.
Blackowiak: Right, so the pond's already there but it will just get bigger to accommodate that.
Sweidan: Exactly. And there's an outlet from this existing pond towards a stonn sewer system. Existing
stonn sewer system.
Blackowiak: And that goes where?
Sweidan: To the south.
Blackowiak: Okay. Down Marsh or?
Sweidan: South of Lake Drive East.
Blackowiak: Oh, is it the one that goes down the ravine?
Sacchet: So that is his back yard?
Blackowiak: No. It goes down the ravine and goes down to.
Bob Savard: That is my back yard.
Generous: That's from Villages.
Blackowiak: That's from Villages. The east of that, if you go down Marsh a little bit. You know how, I
live in the neighborhood. You know the poplar trees?
Bob Savard: Yeah.
Blackowiak: It goes down that ravine.
Bob Savard: The access to that ravine runs right through my back yard. It crosses from mine and my
neighbor's back yard underneath Marsh Drive.
Blackowiak: So it starts there? It doesn't start farther to the east?
Sweidan: It's under the street.
Blackowiak: Yeah, there's an underground one too.
Bob Savard: It crosses underneath the street. The outlet from the pond behind my house crosses
between the two lots there and that's underneath Marsh Drive and then continues through the ravine.
Blackowiak: The eastern ravine which is the one I'm referring to that's the poplars, yeah. Where they
cut those down. Oh yeah, the ones they cut down.
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Sweidan: The existing one...
Blackowiak: Right. So where does that go? Help me with that.
Sweidan: Here there's an outlet that goes to a storm sewer system and it's going underneath it. And
there's a 21 inches going through some.
Blackowiak: Okay, so maybe it hooks up then to the one that starts in his back yard? Do you know
where he's.
Saam: At different points.
Blackowiak: At different points.
Saam: This stuff isn't going. . .
Blackowiak: So that's not going to start by him? It will start further down, okay. Okay, good. Thank
you. I just want to get that all clarified.
Harold Lund: Hi. My name's Harold Lund. I'm also on the Housing Committee and I'm also the
Chaplin of Post 580 and as Tom said, there's been a lot of prayers said for our club. I'm a Korean War
Veteran and we've done a tremendous amount of stuff forth is community. I was in Chan til '93. I'm a
painting contractor. I do a lot of work for the city, but Ijust want to take this time to thank you all for
being so patient with us and hopefully my prayers as a Chaplin will be reinforced for our Post 580 in the
future of Chanhassen. Thank you.
Blackowiak: Thank you. Okay, would anybody else like to make any comments? I don't see anyone
else. I will close the public hearing. And it's time for commissioners comments. Before we comment I
do want to clarify something with staff please. What is your position on current access to the current
Legion property? How long can that stay open?
Al-Jaff: Well they will need to use it for as long as the Legion, the existing Legion remains open and we
said, one of our recommendations was that that operation continues for as long as the building is under
construction.
Blackowiak: Right, so. Let's say the new one is opened up. Now what's your feeling? I mean given
that they are saying that they would like to have that access.
Al-Jaff: We want to see the situation corrected as soon as possible. I mean that access point has always
been an issue, and it depends on how fast Villages continues to grow. That's when you're really going to
see problems. Traffic generated by Villages on the Pond has not reached it's peak, yes. And once that
happens we're going to see problems there. We have no guarantees that the clinic will be there in 18
months. We would like to see them come in as soon as possible, but again there are no guarantees. So
we want to see this situation fixed as soon as possible.
Sweidan: I had something. MnDot also recommended that to DÚniDÚze as much as we could from the
Great Plains Boulevard access. And so we have so far existing two, and we plan to have one so the short
we can make it in time, which would be also like a MnDot to decide too. So that's why we are looking
just you know for one access.
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Blackowiak: Right, I understand that. I'mjust curious as to what your feelings are on the time line. You
know how long can they have that second Great Plains access after they move into their second building,
and I guess that's kind of.
AI-Jaff: And we understand that they have to have it for, during the construction.
Blackowiak: During construction obviously.
AI-J aff: And we definitely want to separate construction traffic from business traffic.
Blackowiak: Business traffic, sure. Okay. Alright, thanks. Well we'll have our comments now.
Anybody?
Dan Doege: Can I add one thing?
Blackowiak: Well.
Sacchet: Things are going well.
Blackowiak: If you really think it's going to help your case.
Dan Doege: Well I was just going to clear up something you just asked.
Blackowiak: Okay. Come up quickly.
Dan Doege: Okay. real quickly our point is we, our issue is not one that we care when that driveway gets
developed. We would develop that driveway whenever the city wants us to develop that driveway. My
only point of contention is the roadway connecting the driveway and us, okay.
Blackowiak: Right. Okay. Alright, commissioners. Comments. Craig, anything to say?
Claybaugh: If I'm understanding correctly, once the construction is done with the new Legion location,
their primary access is going to be off Lake Drive, is that correct?
AI-J aff: Correct. That's a full access.
Claybaugh: At that point they no longer, they're going to tear down the existing Legion that's in place
now and no longer need that patron, separate patron access off of Great Plains and you'd like that
situation rectified at that time. Is that correct?
AI-Jaff: Correct.
Claybaugh: Okay. That would be my only comment that I guess I share staffs recommendation. I don't
see any reason that that couldn't take place at that time table.
Blackowiak: Okay, thanks. Deb, any comments?
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Kind: I'm okay with doing the southem drive aisle with Phase II. I don't see any need that it needs to be
done right now. Overall I think it's really an attractive building and I'm very excited to see the
improvement on that comer. And the idea of partnering with Park Nicollet just seems perfect. Just
perfect for a joint use of the parking and is neat and I would like to see more of that done in our
community. I think it's a great project.
Blackowiak: Okay, thanks. Any comments down here? LuAnn?
Sidney: No. I like the project. The building is really a refreshing change from a lot of the architecture
we've seen recently and I think it will be a really good addition to that site. And I agree with Deb's
comments about what she said.
Kind: About the drive aisle thing?
Sidney: Yep. Drive aisle, thank you.
Blackowiak: Alright.
Sacchet: Well first of all I want to thank you. I mean you thanked us. You thanked staff but I think it's
also appropriate to thank you because it's refreshing to hear from staff that you worked well together. I
wish we would hear that from every applicant. And I think it's a great project. I think it's beautiful. It's
a great thing. It's really wonderful, and I want to compliment you on that too. Now as you've already
gathered from my previous concerns, I'm concerned about those trees. I think they're very important. I
think they're much more important than the drive aisle and they're more important than that sidewalk
thing. I also would like staff to verify the thing about the Colorado Spruce. At this point I'm in total
favor of this whole project. I think it's a great project as I said. However, I would like to clarify a couple
ofthings. For one thing there's some redundancy in the conditions, like 14, IS, 16 of subdivision are
identical to 14, 15 and 33 of site plan, so I don't know whether they need to be both places. .. .no signs
are being approved with this, are we doing here?
AI-Jaff: Two directional signs are being approved.
Sacchet: Well we say applicant must obtain a sign pennit prior to erecting any signage on site.
AI-Jaff: Correct. And these are handled administratively.
Sacchet: Okay. The reason why I want to be real clear about that is because in the blueprints there are,
signs are actually drawn. The free standing ones so I want to be clear. Are we doing anything at this
point about signs or not?
AI-Jaff: You're only looking at the Legion site. You are approving the signs that are on the Legion site.
Sacchet: Weare approving those.
AI-Jaff: But only on the Legion site which is Lot 2, Block 1.
Sacchet: Okay, I think that needs to be clarified. Then there's a little bit of redundancy like from the,
what's the second piece? The site plan review, condition number 17 is repeated in condition number 20.
Then here comes the juicy part, 28, 9 and 32. 28, the closing the access. I do believe that if.
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Kind: ...doesn't close the access.
Sacchet: Yes, the connecting access drive between the two developments as shown on the plans should
be constructed to the south property line of the site concurrently with the construction of the Legion site.
Isn't that a condition that says they have to pull it over to.
AI-Jaff: That condition.
Sacchet: Which one is the condition that says they need to pull it over to Great Plains?
Kind: She handed it out tonight.
Sacchet: That's the extra one?
AI-J aff: The condition you just read connects those two sites. The Citgo site.
Sacchet: That connection, okay. Okay. So that one, okay. So we're talking about 34. I personally feel
very strongly. even though I'm not supposed to feel up here, excuse me. I'm very clear, let me rephrase
this. It's an internal joke, bear with me. I personally am very clear that the benefit of not doing that
connection to Great Plains far outweighs putting it in. Because if we don't put it in now, we can ask for
those significant trees to remain there. Even the ones that most likely will not be there, like that one that
is pretty much on the comer of the building. Of the clinic. So I would actually like to specifically put a
condition on it at this point that these significant trees are not cut.. .as part of this initial step. That we
address that in it's entirety when the clinic comes in. Now I understand the tree is already cut that is in
the driveway going to the connection to the Citgo station. That's a no brainer. I mean that tree has to
make room, and it's reasonable. I also believe that I would not insist on the sidewalk piece going up
there. I mean if people want to go on foot, they can walk through the parking lot. That's not a big deal.
A sidewalk would be nice but it's not necessary. I think it's much more important to build in an island, if
at all it works out. If the trees there happen to be worth it and all. I mean work with staff on that, but
that we are very specific in terms of requesting this gets considered. And if at all possible put in that
there's an island off that strip of trees, about on the property line between the two sites. Let's see, what
else? That's it. That's my comments.
Blackowiak: Alright, thank you. Yeah, I'll be very brief. I think it's a nice plan. I think that the access
agreement can be worked out. I'm not so worried about when that driveway gets closed. I agree that we
should probably not pave any more than we have to, especially over that Lot 1, Block \. Let's just wait
to see what develops. The sidewalk, I don't know if I necessarily think it should be right in the middle of
Phase 1. but I do think it's important. Especially if we're talking a clinic. There might be times when
people might be there for several hours and it would be nice to have the opportunity to get them from the
parking lot out to Lake Drive, so I think we should really consider a trail or a path at some point. or a
sidewalk I guess we can call it. Ijust don't know if it's right in the center of Phase 1 so I'm not sure
about that. Otherwise 1 like the proposal. The building looks nice with a few little color changes on the
accent pieces 1 think we're going to have a great property, so thanks.
Sacchet: One more detail.
Blackowiak: Okay. one more.
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Sacchet: Just one more. The access from Great Plains with the old Legion building. Could there be a
compromise that when the old Legion's not being used that it's closed off kind of like to prevent people
from making left turns going in there? Not necessarily do the whole construction with making curb and
but like put a barricade type of thing on that exit at that point. I mean I think that would solve the
concern for the safety.
BIackowiak: Well I think we just need to direct staff to work that out. I mean to work with the Legion.
To work with Citgo. To make the best and safe as possible access choices when the construction is
completed so I don't think we need to get any more detail than that. So with that I will ask for a motion.
Sacchet: Well Madam Chair. I make the motion that the Planning Commission recommends approval of
Subdivision #2002-3 for the replat of 5.58 acres into 2 lots as shown on the plans dated received January
15, 2002, subject to the following conditions 1 through 18.
BIackowiak: Okay, there's been a motion. Is there a second?
Sidney: Second.
BIackowiak: It's been moved and seconded.
Kind: Uli,18?
BIackowiak: Yes, it's really 18, Start on page 16. Go through page 18.
Kind: Thank you.
Sacchet moved, Sidney seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of
Subdivision #2002-3 for the replat of 5.58 acres into 2 lots as shown on the plans dated received
January 15, 2002, subject to the following conditions:
8. Calculations shall demonstrate that all downstream facilities are adequate to
accommodate storm water from the proposed development.
9.
10. The applicant shall demonstrate that the property owners to the east have granted
permission for grading to occur on their property and that they have agreed to
combine the storm water ponds for both sites.
11.
12. Drainage and utility easements shall be provided over all storm water ponding
areas.
13. Silt fence shall be provided in areas where sediment may otherwise be carried off.
site.
14. Erosion control blanket shall be installed on all slopes greater than or equal to 3:1.
15. All upland areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately
restored with seed and disc-mulched, covered with a wood-fiber blanket or sodded
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within two weeks of completion of each activity in accordance with the City's Best
Management Practice Handbook.
1. Based on the proposed developed area of approximately 5.58 acres, the water quality fees
associated with this project are $32,972; the water quantity fees are approximately $24,329. The
applicant will be credited for water quality where NURP basins are provided to treat runoff from
the site. This will be determined upon review of the stonn water calculations. At this time, the
estimated total SWMP fee, due payable to the City at the time of final plat recording, is $57,301.
8. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies (e.g.
Riley-Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, Minnesota
Department of Natural Resources, Army Corps of Engineers) and comply with their conditions of
approval.
16. Prior to final plat approval. a professional civil engineer registered in the state of Minnesota must
sign all plans.
17. The pond is required to be designed to National Urban Runoff Program (NURP) standards.
18. Cross-access easements for the shared driveway accesses must be obtained and
recorded against the lots.
19. Staff will work with the applicant's engineer to revise stonn water calculations. Prior to final
platting, stonn sewer design data will need to be submitted for staff review. The stonn sewer
will have to be designed for a lO-year. 24-hour stonn event. Drainage and utility easements will
need to be dedicated on the final plat over the public stonn drainage system including ponds, and
drainage swales, up to the 100-year flood level. The minimum easement width shall be 20 feet
wide. Emergency overflows from all stonnwater ponds will also be required on the construction
plans.
20. Minimum 20-foot wide easements will be required over the public portion of the utility lines.
21. Each newly created lot will be subject to City sanitary sewer and water hook up charges at the
time of building permit issuance. The 2002 trunk utility hook up charges are $1,383 per unit for
sanitary sewer and $1,802 per unit for water.
22. Public utility improvements will be required to be constructed in accordance with the City's latest
edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates. Detailed construction plans and
specifications will be required at the time of final platting. The applicant will also be required to
enter into a development contract with the City and supply the necessary financial security in the
fonn of a letter of credit or cash escrow to guarantee installation of the improvements and the
conditions of final plat approval. Permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies must be
obtained, including but not limited to the MPCA, Department of Health, Watershed District,
Carver County, MnDOT, etc.
23. Park and Trail fees shall be paid at the rate in force upon application. The current fees are as
follows;
Legion Site (Lot 2): At the time of plat:
Park Fee:
$3,180
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Trail Fee:
At the time of building permit: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
$1,060
$6,360
$2,120
Park Nicollet Site (Lot 1): At the time of plat: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
At the time of building permit: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
$5,310
$1,770
$10,620
$3,540
24. The applicant shall enter into a development contract with the city and provide the necessary
financial securities as required.
25. Any retaining wall that exceeds 3 feet in height shall be designed by a Registered Engineer.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously 5 to O.
Blackowiak: I need another motion please.
Sacchet: Madam Chair. I make the motion that the Planning Commission recommends approval of the
site plan review #2002-2 for the American Legion Club Post 580 as shown on the site plan received
January 15, 2002, subject to the following conditions 1 through 35 with fixings. Condition number 1.
Applicant must obtain sign permits. Now, staff help me out. You said that we're actually approving the
Legion specific signs here?
AI-Jaff: Correct.
Sacchet: So should we say that?
Al-Jaff: Well you're approving the site plan for the Legion. You're not reviewing anything that has to
do with the clinic.
Sacchet: No, I'm talking about the Legion site.
Al-Jaff: Correct.
Kind: They're on the plans.
AI-Jaff: And these are the plans.
Sacchet: So if we say as the plans, that means we're approving them.
AI-Jaff: If you feel more comfortable saying the Legion signs. The American Legion signs.
Sacchet: I believe that should be clarified.
Sidney: We're just on the American Legion though.
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Sacchet: Yeah. But it still seems to contradict that then we say they must obtain sign permits when.
AI-Jaff: Oh, everybody has to obtain sign permits before they put up.
Sacchet: They still have to do that?
Generous: They provide the detailed information.
Sacchet: They still have to do it, alright.
Al-Jaff: Yes.
Sacchet: That's what I wanted to hear. So the condition stands as is. I'd like to strike out condition 17,
because I believe it's stated in condition 20. 17 says the minimum rock construction entrance must be 75
feet and in 20 we say again, all of the proposed rock construction entrances must be 75 feet. Is that okay
with engineering?
Sweidan: Yes.
Sacchet: Okay. So that one goes. And then the silt fence shall be removed when construction is
completed. We can't go without that one. That's in condition number 20 also after we talk about silt
fence. Now, number 31. The sidewalk. I'd like to take that off, but I'd like to say that the applicant
shall work with staff to place a tree island on the property line between the southern drive and the
connection between the two parking lots.
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Blackowiak: Uli, can I make a suggestion? Not applicant will work but how about explore with staff.
Sacchet: Will explore with staff. I'd like it a little bit stronger than exploring here. I mean if it totally
doesn't make sense, it doesn't make sense;
Blackowiak: Right so, but if you're putting a condition that they put one in and if it doesn't make sense.
Sacchet: Alright, explore. That'd be good. I trust them.
Al-Jaff: I need clarification. So let's assume that they couldn't save the trees. do you want the sidewalk
or do you want things to remain as is? Is it an either or?
Sacchet: Yeah. That gives them an incentive.
Blackowiak: No. I want a sidewalk somewhere though.
Claybaugh: Yeah, I agree.
Blackowiak: You said either or.
Sacchet: I mean if they can't do the trees, then they have to do the sidewalk.
Blackowiak: No.
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Claybaugh: No, we want a sidewalk regardless.
Blackowiak: Somewhere. Whether it's on this lot or the other lot, I want it over inbetween maybe.
Sacchet: But we're not talking about the other one.
Blackowiak: Maybe inbetween the two lots. I don't know. Let's not get too muddled down.
Sacchet: But the way I would put it is, either or. Either a sidewalk or the tree island should take place.
That not going to fly?
Claybaugh: No.
Sacchet: Alright.
Blackowiak: I would just say, you know let's explore that, yeah.
Sacchet: Let's explore. Okay. Applicant shall explore with staff the possibilities of having a tree island
on the property line, as well as putting a sidewalk.
Blackowiak: As well as placement options for the sidewalk.
Sacchet: Placement options for sidewalk, which means we could be on the clinic side.
Claybaugh: Possibly realign.
Blackowiak: Sure.
Sacchet: Right. Condition 32. Applicant shall work with staff to minimize impact and save as many
trees as possible. Well, I would like to go one step further and say that that grove of significant trees to
the southwest should remain. Should remain as much, well there's really no reason why they couldn't
remain at this point tiI the clinic comes in. Okay. I think that should be clear condition.
Claybaugh: Until future plans develop.
Sacchet: Yeah, til future plans develop for the site and it will be reviewed at that time. At this point that
should be preserved. And then condition 34. Applicant shall be responsible for closing off the existing
Legion west access, and I would say with a, or work with staff how to temporary close it off. I mean the
idea is that you put on one of these street ends here have a barricade at that point. Oh, you don't like that
huh?
Kind: Madam Chair, point of clarification. The closing off of the existing Citgo gas station.
Sacchet: It should be the Legion.
Kind: No. No, the Citgo one. ..
Blackowiak: When they combine.
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Kind: The right-inlright-out at Citgo will be going away and this applicant will be responsible for
closing that off.
Sacchet: The Citgo is going away, not the Legion one.
Blackowiak: Well the Legion's eventually going to go away too.
Kind: We're going to leave that open while the Legion's there.
Sacchet: Alright.
Claybaugh: But when they complete the new construction but when they develop the Phase II over there.
would the city be looking at allowing them to use that for a construction entrance? Otherwise all the
construction activity is going to come through the new entrance on Phase I.
Al-Jaff: Well, construction traffic will come through Lake Drive.
Claybaugh: Once for Phase II. The future Phase II.
Al-Jaff: Because this one is right-inlright-out only.
Sacchet: Yeah, and my concern is that it's the left turn. So it's increasing traffic. 1 think we have a
safety concern here then.
Claybaugh: .. .trying to address...
Blackowiak: That is extending the curb. That's what's going to happen. It's addressed in the condition.
Extend it from along Great Plains Boulevard. And extending the median.
Claybaugh: Sharmin, I was thinking in terms of Phase II in the future and I wanted to see the Legion
entrance once the existing Legion is taken down, have it barricaded. Just because it's not used in the
interim until it's developed as Phase II, then I think that needs to be set up for right-inlright-out for
construction equipment. Otherwise they're going to tear up Phase I. But I do think in the interim, to
discourage that use, that that should be barricaded temporarily until Phase II is ripe for development for
construction equipment.
Kind: Okay. how's this motion going?
Sacchet: Yeah, !think...
Blackowiak: Yeah, we're getting too much discussion here.
Sacchet: Alright, I think I came clear. I think I don't want this to be closed off at this point because it
means going to monkey around with that area and we don't know what's going to happen on the clinic.
Blackowiak: But they will, on number 34 they are ultimately responsible for closing that.
Sacchet: They are responsible?
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Blackowiak: Yes. That is part ofthe agreement.
Sacchet: So we, basically we're saying they're responsible. We don't say when they do it.
Blackowiak: Right, exactly.
Sacchet: Oh, then we leave it in. Should we specify that this shall be done later?
Blackowiak: No. No.
Sacchet: No?
Blackowiak: They're responsible. Staff can take care of it. You've got to trust them.
Sacchet: Okay. It's in your hands guys. Alright, that's my motion.
Kind: I'll second that but 1 have a few friendly amendments.
Sacchet: Please.
Kind: Let's flip back here to page 19. Condition number 61 would like to change the wording.
Concurrent with the building permit, a detailed lighting plan, including fixture styles. meeting city
standards shall be submitted. Just for clarification.
Sacchet: Accepted.
Blackowiak: Okay.
Kind: Number 20, I would like to reword the beginning of that, just to clean it up and make it a condition
to, the sentence should start off, a silt fence shall be added.
Sacchet: Accepted.
Kind: Number 28. 1 don't know how you left this.
Sacchet: I actually left that one alone.
Kind: Here's my idea for rewording that one. Access onto Great Plains Boulevard from future Lot I,
Block I shall be restricted to a right-inlright-out only. The connecting access drive between the two
developments as shown on the plan should be constructed along the south property line of the site with
the construction of Phase II.
Sacchet: Fine.
Blackowiak: Okay, so that's accepted.
Kind: 1 think we addressed the sidewalk stuff already. That's it.
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Claybaugh: Actually if I understood how it was submitted, it addressed my concern. That access is
going to remain open correct?
Blackowiak: Yep.
Claybaugh: I do, I don't know if it's appropriate to ask staff a point then at this point or not.
Blackowiak: You know what, we're kind of done here. Okay. It's been moved and seconded.
Sacchet moved, Kind seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of Site Plan
Review #2002-2 for the American Legion Club Post 580 as shown on the site plan received January
15, 2002, subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant must obtain a sign permit prior to erecting any signage on site. Provide a detailed
sign plan for review and approval. The signage shall meet the following criteria:
a. Monument signage shall be subject to the monument standards in the sign ordinance.
b. Wall signs are permitted on the southwest elevation only. The sign area shall meet
standards set in the sign ordinance.
c. All signs require a separate permit.
d. The signage will have consistency throughout the development and add an architectural
accent to the building.
e. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size, materials, and heights.
f. Back-lit individual letter signs are permitted.
g. Individual letters may not exceed 2 feet in height.
h. Only the name and logo of the business occupying the building will be permitted on the
sign.
2. All roof top equipment shall be screened from views. Any kitchen vents shall be concealed or
painted the same color as the roof.
26. 3. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the city and provide
the necessary financial securities.
4. Fire Marshal conditions:
a. Two additional fire hydrants will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location of hydrants.
b. A IO-foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e, street lamps, trees.
bushes, shrubs, Qwest, Xcel Energy, cable TV and transfonner boxes. This is to ensure
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that the hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to
Chanhassen City Ordinance #9-1.
c. When fire protection including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire
protection is required to be installed, such protection shall be installed and made
serviceable prior to and during the time of construction. Pursuant to 1997 Uniform Fire
code Section 901.3.
d. Comply with the Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division regarding
premise identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention
Division Policy #29-1992.
e. Comply with water service installation policy for commercial and industrial buildings.
Pursuant to Inspection Division Water Service Installation Policy #34-1993. Copy
enclosed.
f. Comply with the Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division Policy regarding
maximum allowed size of domestic water on a combination domesticlfire sprinkler
supply line. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division Policy
#36-1994. Copy enclosed.
g. Comply with the Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division policy regarding
notes being included on all site plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire
Prevention Division Policy #4-1991.
h. "No parking fire lane" signs and yellow curbing will be required. Contact Chanhassen
fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing to be painted yellow. Pursuant to
Chanhassen Fire DepartmentlFire Prevention Division Policy #6-1991 and Section 904-
1997 Uniform Fire Code.
5. The applicant shall change the color of the accent medallions to a more contrasting color.
6. Concurrent with the building pennit. a detailed lighting plan including fixture styles, meeting
city standards shall be submitted.
7. Building Official's conditions:
i. The building is required to have an automatic fire extinguishing system.
j. The plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the
State of Minnesota.
k. Demolition pennits must be obtained form the Inspections Division before demolishing
any structures.
I. Detailed occupancy related code requirements will be reviewed when complete plans are
submitted. It is evident however that the assembly space in the basement must be of one-
hour fire-resistive construction and the exits as designed do not comply with the code.
m. The proposed building on Lot 1 was not reviewed for building code compliance.
n. The owner and or their representative shall meet with the Inspections Division as soon as
possible to discuss plan review and pennit procedures.
8. Applicant shall increase buffer yard plantings to meet minimum requirements. Spruce trees shall
be added to the east of the trash enclosure and the loading area. A revised landscape plan shall
be submitted to the City prior to city council approval.
9. All parking lot landscape islands must have a minimum width of 10 feet.
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The applicant and/or contractor shall notify the City upon encountering any existing drain
tile on the site. The City will determine whether or not the drain tile can be abandoned or
relocated.
All construction vehicles shall access the site from Lake Drive North and not Great Plains
Boulevard. Rock construction entrances shall be installed and maintained until the site is
paved with a bituminous surface. Haul routes, if necessary, shall be pre-approved by the
City. The applicant will be required to maintain haul routes and clean the streets of any
dirt and mud accumulated from vehicles tracking. Any damage to City streets, curbs or
other public facilities will be the responsibility of the applicant.
Private utility easements will be required for the storm sewer line that runs from Lot 2 to
Lot I.
Add the following City of Chanhassen Detail Plate Nos. 1002, 1004, 1006,2101,2109,
2201-2205,3101,3106-3108,5204,5207,5214,5234 and 5300.
Prior to final plat approval, a professional civil engineer registered in the state of
Minnesota must sign all plans.
The pond is required to be designed to National Urban Runoff Program (NURP)
standards.
Cross-access easements for the shared driveway accesses must be obtained and recorded
against the lots.
The applicant must obtain a permit from MnDOT for grading in the right-of-way.
Staff will work with the applicant's engineer to revise storm water calculations. Prior to
final platting, storm sewer design data will need to be submitted for staff review. The
storm sewer will have to be designed for a IO-year, 24-hour storm event. Drainage and
utility easements will need to be dedicated on the final plat over the public storm drainage
system including ponds, and drainage swales, up to the 100-year flood level. The
minimum easement width shall be 20 feet wide. Emergency overflows from all
stormwater ponds will also be required on the construction plans.
28. A silt fence shall be added around the east side of storm water pond grading limits of the site.
The silt fence must be Type II. All of the proposed rock construction entrances must be
lengthened to 75 feet as per City Detail Plate No. 5301. The silt fence shall be removed upon
completion of the project.
29. Any off-site grading will require easements from the appropriate property owner.
30. Minimum 20-foot wide easements will be required over the public portion of the utility lines.
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31. Installation of the private utilities for the site will require pennits and inspections through the
City's Building Department.
32. Each newly created lot will be subject to City sanitary sewer and water hook up charges at the
time of building pennit issuance. The 2002 trunk utility hook up charges are $1,383 per unit for
sanitary sewer and $1,802 per unit for water.
33. Public utility improvements will be required to be constructed in accordance with the City's
latest edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates. Detailed construction plans and
specifications will be required at the time of final platting. The applicant will also be required to
enter into a development contract with the City and supply the necessary financial security in the
form of a letter of credit or cash escrow to guarantee installation of the improvements and the
conditions of final plat approval. Pennits from the appropriate regulatory agencies must be
obtained, including but not limited to the MPCA, Department of Health, Watershed District,
Carver County, MnDOT, etc.
34. On the utility plan:
- Revise catch basin nos. 2, 3, 4, and 7 to catch basin manhole nos. 2, 3, 4, and 7.
- Revise sheet title to "Preliminary Utility Plan".
- Shift the watennain toward the southeast corner adjacent to the curb and call the fittings.
- Show the utilities easement.
- Add a storm sewer schedule.
- Change the type of public watermain from DIP to PVC C-900.
- Show the proposed pipe slope, class and length of the storm sewer.
- Under the Sewer and Water Notes, add, "All sanitary services shall be 6" PVC SDR26.
35. On the grading plan:
- Show all existing and proposed easements.
- Show the benchmark used for the site survey.
- Add a note "clean existing pond after pond enlargement grading is finished".
- Revise sheet title to "Preliminary Grading, Drainage & Erosion Control Plan".
- Add a note for removing existing bituminous and close off the existing (west) American
Legion access.
36. Access onto Great Plains Boulevard from Lot 1, Block 1 shall be restricted to a right-in/right-out
only. The connecting access drive between the two developments as shown on the plans should
be constructed along the south property line of the site concurrently with the construction of
Phase II.
37. Obtain a liquor license from the City.
38. The existing Legion building shall be removed no later than 60 days after receipt of the
Certificate of Occupancy for the new building.
39. The applicant will work with staff to explore the possibility of having a tree island
on the property line as well as placement options for a sidewalk.
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The applicant shall work with staff to minimize impact and save the significant stand of
trees located in the southwest corner of the site until future plans are developed.
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41. Park and Trail fees shall be paid at the rate in force upon application. The current fees are
as follows:
Legion Site (Lot 2): At the time of plat: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
At the time of building permit: Park Fee:
Trail Fee:
$3,180
$1,060
$6,360
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Trail Fee:
At the time of building permit: Park Fee:
$5,310
$1,770
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The applicant shall be responsible for closing off the existing Citgo Gas Station
(west) access, removing the existing bituminous, extending the curb along Great
Plains Boulevard (east side) and extending the median located across from the
existing Legion curb cut to eliminate left turns.
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Recycling space shall be provided for all new buildings. The area of the recycling
space must be dedicated at the rate specified in Minnesota State Building Code
(MSBC) 1300.4700 Subp. 5. The applicant should demonstrate the required area
will be provided in addition to the space required for other solid waste collection
space. Recycling space and other solid waste collection space should be contained
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All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously 5 to O.
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Blackowiak: We muddled through it. Thank you very much for coming and staying. Okay, and this
does go to City Council on March 11th. Thank you.
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Blackowiak: Before I go on, would somebody like to note the minutes.
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Sacchet: Oh yes, my weasel hunt. Just to put it on the record, on page, bear with me. It's not going to
take long. In my customary hunt for weasels I did find, there's a lot of feeling in there. Not too many
weasels. There's one sort of weasel. On page 73, on the bottom. I'm talking about the bridge across
Highway 5. It's not the jumping heart bridge. It's the shopping cart bridge. It looks like a shopping cart.
I couldn't quite figure out why it would be a jumping heart. This was a funny one.
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Blackowiak: Okay. Minutes are noted.
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