6. Request to use Teton Lane for School Bus I
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I (612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
MEMORANDUM
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TO: Mayor and City Council
IFROM: Don Ashworth, City Manager
DATE: November 6 , 1989
ISUBJ: Request to Use Teton Lane for School Bus Access, Minnetonka
School District
1 Attached please find a request from the Minnetonka School
District asking advice from the City as to whether Teton Lane
will be closed. Closure will force the school district into
1 changing it' s current routing and may force children from the
neighborhood to walk distances longer than established under
school district policy. I have notified Mr. Schmidt that I would
Iprocess his request as quickly as possible.
Also attached please find a copy of a petition from the Curry
Farms neighborhood asking that Teton Lane remain open. Their
I primary objective appears to be the potential hazard created for
children if changes in bus routing is required.
I Ironically, the petition presented is reminiscent of the road
problems in the Near Mountain neighborhood. During platting
stages , the developer and property owners on Pleasant View
reached agreement as to how to design the goofy roadway currently
I leading into that development. Staff did not recommend that
design. However, the Council was in a difficult position in that
all parties appeared to favor the developer' s proposal. After
I the development occurred, the developer disavowed any involvement
and the City is left holding the bag in terms of how to correct
design errors. The neighborhood itself is now the vocal party.
1 The closure of Teton Lane has many similarities to the Near
Mountain area, i .e. a relatively minor number of homes affected
by the subdivision did not want to see Teton Lane used as a
I potential access. The developer was in agreement with this and,
accordingly, the City Council approved it' s closure. The ability
of the developer to obtain releases of the underlying easements
I from this same group of owners has thwarted efforts to cause the
closure.
I I do not know when Teton Lane will be open to thru traffic; but
based on similar experiences in other cities, opening of the
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November 6 , 1989
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' roadway will almost assuredly occur. I do not know if the
opening will be a result of maintenance problems by Public Works,
safety concerns from Public Safety, new petitions from the Curry
' Farm area or the neighbors to the north - but something will
trigger the necessity for the opening. If it turns out to be the
latter factor which causes the opening (petition from the neigh-
bors to the north, such would assuredly be ironic. In that
' instance, we would be paying those owners for giving up their
easement rights and then turn around and give those same rights
back through such opening. The last factor that I would have
guessed to potentially stimulate an opening would have been
school bussing.
One of the factors which will continue to be used by the neighbors,
to the north is the traffic which will be generated in front
of their homes if opening is allowed. That argument is correct,
but the owners in Curry Farms also have a correct argument in
that dispersing traffic generally reduces safety concerns for all
parties - not one or the other. Additionally, the argument does
not consider the fact that Teton Lane was used for a number of
' years as the only access for Pat Jensen' s riding stable. The
dust, trailer traffic, noise associated with the continuous rodeo
activities was a continuous source of problems for that neigh-
borhood and the City. The only difference appears to be that the
' developer has now paved the roadway albeit not to full City stan-
dards. The roadway could operate to serve both neighborhoods
(north and south) until such time as subdivision was requested
' and therefore necessitate the need for utility extensions by
neighbors to the north and road upgrade. If Teton is opened
prior to upgrading, a problem will exist on Lilac as no improve-
, ment to that roadway was made. This also begs the question as
to which City Lilac is in.
If the Council believes that conditions may have changed
' warranting reconsideration, the Council may wish to table action
and resubmit such to the Planning Commission and Public Safety
Commission for their input.
' Easement Acquisition Update: Tom Boyce of Centex has met with me
on two occasions following the last Council meeting at which this
was considered. As the Council will remember, Mr. Boyce was
given until December 1st to acquire the underlying easements from
the neighbors to the north. It currently appears as though one
easement has been obtained and an offer accepted on another
( signature was not received at time of our last meeting, but was
expected that afternoon) . Mr. Boyce is hopeful that he will be
able to achieve acquisition of all easements with the exception
of Mr. Franco Loris. Mr. Loris appears to be looking for payment
in excess of $10, 000. I would anticipate having this item back
on the agenda for November 20th.
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We're working hard, working well.
October 2, 1989 , 91-k
Mr. Don Chmiel , Mayor
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhassen, Mn. 55317 i
Dear Sir:
This is to advise the City Council of one difficulty that has developed in I
the area of Teton Avenue and Ashton/Teton Lane.
Since the 1989-90 school year began I 've been contacted by both residents
who are in favor of keeping vehicle access between Lilac Lane and Teton
Avenue open and residents who are opposed to the same.
If throughway access to this neighborhood is denied by the erection of a
barricade, the only alternative that school buses will have is to drive in
through Bretton Way and turn around by backing up at the corner of Bretton
Way and Teton Avenue. The backing up of school buses is an undesirable
practice and is only sanctioned where absolutely necessary. When backing
time is necessary along bus routes, more buses are need to do the job at a
nominal cost to the taxpayers. '
Please understand that the school district strives to offer the best
school bus service possible to residents, but that the extent of this
service is limited by accessibility in areas such as Teton Avenue and
Ashton Court/Teton Lane.
Thank you for your consideration. '
Best Regards ,
m Schmidt
Transportation Supervisor
c Randy Karl ,
Business Office 261 School Avenue Excel,ii.r, Minnesota 55331 (612)470-3400
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October 9, 1989 •
' Mayor Don Chmiel
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhassen, MN. 55317
Dear Mayor:
I would like to ask you and the city council to again review the
closure of Teton Lane to through traffic. I understand that this
' closure was part of the development contract with the Centex
Corporation in granting the development project. I have also been
advised by Gary Warren that it was at the request residence who
' then bordered Lilac and Teton. From their perspective I can
understand the reasoning that went into the decision, however, as
I stated at the September 25th council meeting, I don't feel the
interests of the people living in the Curry Farms development were
well represented. Attached you will find a petition that was
circulated to the residents of the south side of Teton and Ashton
Court indicating their interest in keeping it the road open.
As a tax payer who will continue to provide funds for the
maintenance and snow removal of both ends of Teton Lane and one who
contributed to the current improvements to the north end of Teton
Lane through my building costs, I feel that new review of the issue
would be in the best interest all parties affected.
' The barricading of Teton Lane has many positive and negative .
attributes. There are -probably many things that are not know to
the residents in the area about this closure. That's why I feel
' it is important to bring the issue to the table again and would
appreciate your considering the attached petition.
I have visited the city council meetings and know how concerned the
' council is in continuing to make Chanhassen a thriving and safe
community for all of us to live in. All I ask is that we give all
of the residents a clear and fair hearing about the issue.
' Thank you for your consideration.
Regards,
' Randy L. Karl
6391 Teton Lane
Chanhassen, MN. 55317
' Attachments
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PETITION FOR KEEPING TETON LANE OPEN
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October 2, 1989 1
OVERVIEW:
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Currently Teton Lane is schedule to be barricaded to traffic by the
end of November 1989. The Chanhassen City Council approved the
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closer as part of the Curry Farms Development Project. The closure
was determined to be necessary due to the condition of the road and
to keep traffic flow low for existing residence.
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SCOPE:
This petition is an opportunity for the affected residence in the II
area to voice their current opinion the closer of the road.
KEY ISSUES: I
1. The closure of Teton Lane will have an negative affect on the
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bussing oft children to and from schools in the area. The closure
will require the busses to be backed up which is safety concern.
It will require a longer period of time for the bussing process
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thus increasing the cost in taxes. In the event that the safety
is determined to be to great the bus stop at the corner of Teton
Lane and Bretton Way will be deleted and the children in the area
Iwill be required to walk down dark streets an additional two to
three city blocks to meet the bus. The alternate bus stops are
Lilac and Powers Blvd. or Bretton Way and Devenshire Drive. These
streets do not have sidewalks and portions of them have a
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significant grade. The potential hazard to the children in
inclement weather could be increased. See attached map.
2. The closure will also force all traffic for people in the second I
phase of Curry Farms to use the Bretton Way and Devenshire Drive
as their access streets. This will increase the amount of traffic
flow on Devenshire Drive and Bretton Way. The use of Teton Lane
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and Lilac would provide a balance of traffic with two accesses.
Additionally the speed and visibility of traffic on to Powers Blvd.
is some what better from Lilac than Devenshire Drive. There is a
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down hill grade for north bound traffic coming up to Devenshire and
a curve for south bound traffic. South bound traffic coming up to
Lilac is coming out of a 35 mph speed zone and the north bound
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traffic has longer visibility than to Devenshire Drive.
3 . The road surface on the south part of Teton Lane and on Lilac
are not rated as well as the new part in the Curry Farms
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development.
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IIPETITION FOR KEEPING TETON LANE OPEN
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I4 . The lighting on the south part of Teton Lane is currently
limited.
IThese are a few of the issues related to the road closure. If you
would like additional information about the details of the road
closure please contact Gary Warren the Chanhassen City Engineer.
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PETITION FOR KEEPING TETON LANE OPEN I
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Please indicated your preference to the future status of Teton
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