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1 MEMORANDUM "
TO: Park and Recreation Commission
IFROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinator ------- __.-
DATE: May 5 , 1988 27 57a3-UU __
SUBJ: Request to Realign Trail Easement, Hidden Valley
IRecently the City was contacted by United Mortgage Corporation
requesting that the City consider realigning the trail easement
I through the Hidden Valley development, located just west of
Chanhassen Estates along the south side of Lake Drive East and
the east side of TH 101. Staff' s response was that any realign-
' ment would have to be equally developable, i .e. above the ordi-
nary high watermark, acceptable topography, etc. They were also
told that a legal description of the new alignment would be need
to be surveyed.
I had an opportunity to walk the site of the proposed alignment
and found it to be acceptable. The new trail easment would be
I somewhat more meandering, making a more interesting trail, and
would not cut across the mid-section of back yards (see attached) .
I As the proposed trail easement will maintain the intent of the
original alignment, is equally developable for trail purposes, and
remains 20 feet in width, it is the recommendation of this office
Ito approve this request. It should be noted that any costs
incurred in the recording of the new easement or vacating the
original easement, should be the responsibility of United
Mortgage Corporation.
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I The Park and Recreation Commission acted to recommend approval of
the realignment of the Hidden Valley Trail Easement. They recom-
mended that United Mortgage Company be directed to inform all of
the existing homeowners of the new alignment.
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May 10, 1988 - Page 4
possibility of a trail easement along one side or the other of the
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north/south road into this project. All voted in favor and motion
carried .
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REVIEW SITE PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT SITES LIMITED.
Hoffman: Item 4, a subdivision of 11 acres into 5 industrial lots. The II
location of this one is west of and adjacent to Audubon Road and north of
the railroad tracks. Present zoning is A-2, Agricultural Estate and
Industrial Office Park acreage is 11. 09 acres . Adjacent zoning and land II
use is stated there. Existing parks , there are no parks in the immediate
area however , this area is served by Lake Ann and Lake Susan parks. Lake
Ann is real close and used quite extensively by the industrial park
already. Comprehensive Plan , the Comp Plan does not call for parks in
this area. The Comp Trail plan calls for an off-street trail along
Audubon Road . Background of this proposal , this proposed development lies II
at the west end of the industrial park and is part of Zone 4 on the
recreation section in the Comprehensive Plan. Zone 4 calls for parkland
to serve the development needs of development taking place along TH 101
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and around Lake Susan. As the needs of this area are being met with the
parkland dedication of Lake Susan Hills West and Chanhassen Hills ,
parkland is not needed from the proposed Audubon West development. The
trail plan identifies a need for a trail along Audubon Road which we have II
requested a trail easement along the west side from developments both
north and south of this proposal being the McGlynn development and then
the Graham property to the south. This alignment should be continued . -'
It' s the recommendation of this office to accept park and trail dedication
fees in lieu of parkland and trail construction and to request a 20 foot
trail easement along the west side of Audubon Road.
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Hasek moved , Schroers seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommend to accept park and trail dedication fees in lieu of parkland and II
trail construction and to request a 20 foot trail easement along the west
side of Audubon Road. All voted in favor and motion carried.
REVIEW REQUEST TO RELOCATE TRAIL EASEMENT, HIDDEN VALLE II
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Hoffman: Recently the City was contacted by United Mortgage Corporation 1
requesting that the City consider realigning the trail easement through
the Hidden Valley development located just west of Chanhassen Estates
along the south side of Lake Drive East and the east side of TH 101. You II
all know where this area is. The area down behind McDonalds . Over here
is Chanhassen Estates . The easement that is in question, originally the
trail was located along the utility easement. This would be Rice Marsh
Lake with all the wetland in this area . Those people came in requesting II
that that trail easement be moved farther south to get it out of those
people' s backyards as far as possible without trying to get into the wet
area. What Lori sent back to them was as long as we took that easement to
put the trail on there because it' s already all platted, if you go ahead
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' and do the work in getting that surveyed again, we' ll take a look at it
and see if we' ll accept it. As stated there, we had an opportunity to
walk the site. Found it acceptable where they made the realignment in
there. The new trail easement would be somewhat more meandering. Make a
more interesting trail and would not cut across the midsection of
backyards. As the proposed trail easement will maintain the intent of the
original alignment, it is equally developable for trail purposes and
' remains 20 feet in width. It is the recommendation of this office to
approve this request. It should be noted, any costs incurred in the
recording of the new easement or vacating the original easement should be
' the responsibility of United Mortgage Corporation, the company that is
requesting this change.
Mady: Are there any property owners currently? Has any development taken
' place down there?
Hoffman: There ' s quite a few houses . Probably 5 or 6 of them that are in
' the process of being built and a majority of them finished.
Mady: My only concern is that those people are fully instructed as to
' what is taking place. Exactly where the easement is.
Robinson: Did you walk that Todd?
' Hoffman: Yes. It' s staked out there.
Robinson: Is there a possibility in later years that that would be under
' water?
Hoffman: The trail where it is proposed to be moved?
' Robinson: Yes .
Hoffman: It ' s not a great deal lower than where the easement is at this
time. The ground feels real solid. In a few areas where it is a little
softer , where the easement presently is located is not any higher . They
went ahead and dug the ponds back there when they put that development in
which the trail would be located along side if we move it down a little
farther to the south.
Schroers : Is there any nice natural areas there that is going to be
' affected by the new realignment?
Hoffman: By moving it? No . Basically that ' s just a graded dirt area
' that if you went out there you couldn ' t tell the difference between the
new and the old . It ' s just a graded backyard which is under erosion right
now so there ' s no natural area that ' s going to be affected there .
' Mady: Right now there ' s nobody living in those houses?
Hoffman: Yes, a few of those houses are occupied .
' Hasek: Have the abutting homeowners been notified.
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Mady: I can' t see any reason why they'd be against it but. . .
Hoffman: No, I believe it' s basically being represented by the people in
the Mortgage Company.
Mady: I would like to see United Mortgage contact those people making
sure they fully understand where it is and where it 's being moved to.
Even though it' s probably making it better for them, they still should be
made aware of it before it goes to Council .
Schroers moved, Robinson seconded that the Park and Recreation Commission
recommend to accept the realignment of the trail easement as proposed by
United Mortgage Corporation and agreed to by City Staff. '
REQUEST TO ENDORSE TEEN DANCE AT FILLY' S NIGHT CLUB.
Hoffman: Lori received a letter from Jeffery Richards , Manager of II Chanhassen Bowl/Filly' s Night Club which you can review on the back there.
What background we know on it, approximately a year ago John Door, the
owner , came to this City to the Public Safety Department. Said that he
had some problems there with things being going on that he did not want to I
see go on so there' s a cooperative effort going on between his
establishment and this City' s Public Safety Department. That is still on
going. They believe they have a very good handle on some of the problems II
that were going on over there but as it is , some delicate issues, Lori
feels uncomfortable endorsing this type of activity as a city commission.
As the City Park and Recreation department.
Mady: I commend John for attempting to do something in the City and I
think a teen dance on Sunday nights would probably really be, I know it ' s
been successful in other areas . Not just in the Minneapolis area but in a
lot of outlying areas. Various ballrooms have Sunday night teen dances .
There' s no alcohol available. It' s just basically for kids and it' s a
nice opportunity. '
Watson: What are the hours?
Hoffman: It ' s not stated in here. '
Mady: The only concern I 'd have is that maybe staff should contact the
other bars, the other night clubs listed and find out what problems they
have had. I agree with staff . I don ' t see any reason for us to endorse
it or to lend our name to it. I think it ' s still a profit making venture
for them and I don' t have any problems with it . I think it ' s a well run
establishment and they do a very good job. I don ' t know if it' s proper
for us as a city to endorse it .
Watson: If we endorse it, would we be accepting any responsibility or
liability?
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I +b, McCombs Frank Roos Associates, Inc.
PIF Twin Cities St.Cloud 15050 23rd Ave.N. Telephone Engineers
Plymouth,MN 612/476-6010 Planners
55447 Surveyors
May 4, 1988
Ms. Lori Sietsema
Park and Recreation Coordinator
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter. Drive
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
SUBJECT: United Mortgage Corporation
' Hidden Valley
MFRA #7663
' Dear Ms. Sietsema:
Enclosed please find a legal description and graphic for a proposed trail
114: along the south side of the subject project. The easement is 20 feet in width
and was field located at the direction of your office.
As you will recall, the original trail was to be within the interceptor
' sewer easement. However, due to site grading and the desires of the adjacent
property owners, it has been proposed to move the trail further south.
On behalf of United Mortgage Corporation, we are requesting that the City
approve this revised alignment.
If additional documentation is required, or questions arise, please contact
' our office.
Very truly yours,
McCOMBS FRANK ROOS ASSOCIATES, INC.
Daniel M. Parks, P.E.
' DMP:jmj
Enclosures
cc: Ronald Helmer, United Mortgage Corporation
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' Formerly McCombs-Knutson Associates,Inc.
y; McCombs Frank Roos Associates, Inc. '
Twin Cities St.Cloud 15050 23rd Ave.N. Telephone Engineers
Plymouth,MN 612/476-6010 Planners
55447 Surveyors
PROPOSED TRAIL EASEMENT
HIDDEN VALLEY
A permanent easement for trail purposes over, under and across that part of
Outlot A and Lots 28 thru 35, inclusive, Block 4, HIDDEN VALLEY, according to
the recorded plat thereof, Carver County, Minnesota, lying 20.00 feet
northerly, northwesterly and northerly of and parallel with the following
described line:
Commencing at the southwest corner of said Lot 28; thence on an assumed
bearing of No degrees, 27 minutes, 53 seconds East, along the West line of
said Lot 28, a distance of 61.42 feet to the point of beginning; thence
North 79 degrees 29 minutes 09 seconds East 315.73 feet; thence South 73
degrees 49 minutes 34 seconds East 74.78 feet; thence North 79 degrees 45
minutes 32 seconds East 155.26 feet; thence North 85 degrees 25 minutes 17
(■ seconds East 274.07 feet; thence South 82 degrees 25 minutes 26 seconds
East 296.60 feet; thence South 88 degrees 10 minutes 40 seconds East 80.09
feet to the intersection with the southeasterly line of said Lot 35; thence
northeasterly along said southeasterly line and its northeasterly extension
90.35 feet; thence North 84 degrees 34 minutes 13 seconds East 89.37 feet _'
to the intersection with the east line of said Outlot A and said line there
terminating.
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