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CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 27, 2005
Mayor Furlong called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.. The meeting was opened with the
Pledge to the Flag.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT:
Mayor Furlong, Councilman Labatt, Councilman
Peterson, and Councilwoman Tjornhom. Councilman Lundquist arrived during discussion of
item 3.
STAFF PRESENT:
Todd Gerhardt, Elliott Knetsch, Justin Miller, Paul Oehme, Todd
Hoffman, and Kate Aanenson
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Debbie Lloyd 7302 Laredo Drive
Janet Paulsen 7305 Laredo Drive
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS:
Mayor Furlong: Thank you and good evening to everybody here this evening and those
watching at home as well. Appreciate you joining us. At this point I would ask if there are any
modifications, additions to the agenda that was distributed with the council packet. If not,
hearing none. Seeing none. Without objection we’ll proceed with the agenda as distributed.
First item this evening is a general invitation to residents and guests of the City of Chanhassen
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regarding the upcoming 4 of July Independence Day activities on July 3 and July 4.
Annually the city of Chanhassen in cooperation with our local businesses and other sponsors
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support a series of events. The summer’s event is our Independence Day celebration, 4 of July
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which actually begins on Sunday, July 3 and continues through Monday, July 4. I’d invite all
area residents and their guests to come and join the festivities with us. This evening I’ve asked a
couple people, our Park and Rec Director Todd Hoffman and a representative from the
Chanhassen Rotary, Greg Krauska to come and give a presentation to the council and for others
here on some of the events that are coming up this coming weekend, so Mr. Hoffman. Good
evening.
Todd Hoffman: Thank you Mayor, members of the council and staff and audience members.
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The 4 of July is our largest special event of the year. The City sponsors an annual special
events program that is funded in part by sponsors. I’ve handed out this year’s brochure for the
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4 of July and the sponsors are all listed on the back. The City solicits one time per year to fund
and finance these programs on a voluntary basis, and we appreciate those businesses who donate
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their money and their in kind contribution. This year’s celebration is starting on Sunday, July 3
with the Chamber of Commerce Business Fair. If you’ve noticed that’s backing up. It starts
earlier and earlier every year because that trade fair is attended by lots of people. It’s starting at
3:30. On Sunday, the festivities take place here at City Center Park followed up by the Kiddie
Parade. That’s always been a traditional start of the celebration. Kind of a note this year, I think
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we’re on our 23 year of the present day celebration, 4 of July celebration so we’re coming up
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on our 25 anniversary for this forum. There was a celebration previous to this, but not in the
same format. That evening as well, Sunday the street dance. Tai Kwon Do demonstration.
Water Wars. Food and beer vendors. The Rotary will be there providing the beer garden. Then
the street dance with music provided by Casablanca Orchestra who’s been a favorite throughout
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the years. On Monday, 4 of July itself we start off the morning bright and early with the adult
and children fishing contest. Those fill up early so please if you’re interested, get your
reservation form in. And the quilt show downstairs. The sand sculpture contest back out at Lake
Ann Park. Treasure Hunt at Lake Ann and then the parade is also that day at 2:30 and Greg will
talk about that. And then that evening and something new this year, we’ll have musically
choreographed fireworks display so if you’re at Lake Ann Park and you can hear the speakers, or
you’re within ear shot of Lake Ann Park, you’ll be able to hear the music as well so I encourage
folks to make their way down to Lake Ann, either by driving or talking a walk or a bicycle ride
and coming down there for 10:00 for the fireworks that evening. It will sure be something
different and something I think we’re all looking forward to.
Greg Krauska: Good evening Mayor, council members and guests. We’re really excited as
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Rotary and as the July 4 Parade Committee to present the 10 annual July 4 parade and as we
began last year we really wanted to make this a festival for the day and not just the parade itself,
so I’ll talk a little bit about not only the parade but the Taste of Chanhassen which begins at
11:00 and this year we’ve got a number of new vendors that have chose to participate.
Restaurants in the area. We also have a classic and antique auto show and I’ll get some more
details on those. Both of those will take place at City Center Park and in the Klein Bank parking
lot direct, just adjacent to this building. And then of course at 2:30 is the parade. So this year,
our 2005 theme is celebrating Carver County’s centennial, so we’re going to honor the history of
the region and those who served, specifically the county commissioners representing the history
and heritage of Carver County, and we want to recognize as well the 2005 Rotary Distinguished
Service Award winner, Al Klingelhutz. So Al and his wife Mary will be joining us in the parade
as well. A little bit more about the parade day festivities and Taste of Chanhassen, as I
mentioned, we’ve got an increase in vendors from our first year last year, and we will have, right
now it looks like 15 vendors and possibly a couple more who may join us. So a wide variety of
food. Each one serving typically 3 or 4 of the most popular menu items and of course beer and
refreshments. Wine will be served. At the same time is our classic and antique auto show. Last
year we had about 50 cars and tractors. This year already we have 75 cars and tractors
committed and among the highlights are a 1934 V-12 Packard which is a beautifully restored
automobile and a 1931 Model A Ford which has an interesting personal history behind it, and we
would encourage folks to come down and learn more about those vehicles and the unique history
that they bring. Finally live music. We’re going to have a mariachi band, which many people
know from their regular visits to a local restaurant here. We’re also going to have a guitarist and
a fiddler who can be roaming between those two areas, the City Center Park as well as the Klein
Bank parking lot. Our opening ceremony once again is going to feature some comments by
Mayor Tom Furlong and Mayor we’re going to try this time to time the planes a little bit better
so you’re able to complete your comments by the time they fly through, but the T-6’s are going
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to come back and they’re going to make several passes along 78 Street and we know from
feedback last year, that was an exciting thing so for folks that have not seen it, we really
encourage them to come down. This year we have about 81 parade entries and we’re just
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finalizing our line up tonight and tomorrow. In addition to the classic clowns, July 4’s
motorcycle, the classic and antique cars are going to be merging in from the show. We’re also
going to have a variety of marching bands and musical groups. We’ve hired 7 marching bands
and musical groups, and then there are other organizations in the community who will be
presenting as well, so we’ll have lots of choices for entertainment. This year, brand new addition
is the Chinese American Association of Minnesota’s Chinese Dance Theater. The Dragon
Dancers, if you’ve never seen them are spectacular. Spectacular show and this group has won a
number of awards, so we’re excited to bring them in. We also are bringing in a replica steam
train from the Gopher State Railway Museum and we talked about the T-6’s so with those and a
number of others, it should be a lot of fun entertainment that is paid for completely through
sponsorship of local businesses. We also get a lot of in kind support from the city, from the
county and especially from city and county staff. We really appreciate your support and help.
We couldn’t do it without you. And of course the many volunteers and the parade committee,
which is made up of Rotary members and some of the original parade committee members who
started the event 10 years ago. As I mentioned, we couldn’t do it without sponsors. Here’s a
partial list of our sponsors and again, without them we couldn’t do the printing, the
entertainment, and the many, many activities that are necessary to put on this kind of event. So
we really appreciate everybody’s support and hope to see the city, their guests, their families
with us on parade day and of course at the parade especially. Thanks very much.
Mayor Furlong: Very good, thank you. And we appreciate all the effort from the park and rec
department. Of course the Chanhassen Rotary and all of the sponsors and volunteers that help
make the event possible. It’s really a 2 day event that’s a lot of fun. It’s getting better each and
every year and it’s clear to me that this is going to be another good one this year so. And if
necessary Mr. Gerhardt I will sign a proclamation declaring good weather on those 2 days.
Todd Gerhardt: Guaranteed.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. I’d like to move now to our consent agenda.
CONSENT AGENDA: Councilman Peterson moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded
to approve the following consent agenda items pursuant to the City Manager’s
recommendations:
a. Approval of Minutes:
-City Council Work Session Minutes dated June 13, 2005
-City Council Verbatim & Summary Minutes dated June 13, 2005
Receive Commission Minutes:
-Planning Commission Verbatim & Summary Minutes dated June 7, 2005
b. Approval of Amendment to City Code Concerning Solicitor Licenses.
c. Approval of Southwest Metro Transit Joint Powers Agreement.
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Resolution#2005-60:
d. Approval of Renewal of Gambling Premises Permit, Chanhassen
American Legion Club Post 580, 290 Lake Drive East.
e. Approval of Settlement Agreement with Paws, Claws & Hooves Development.
f. Approval of Road Closures for the Fourth of July Parade.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 4 to 0.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS:
None.
LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIRE DEPARTMENT UPDATE.
Sgt. Jim Olson: Thank you and good evening. In the monthly packet this money I have included
the sheriff’s office area report for the month of May. The area citation list for the month of May.
Community Service Officer report and also a copy of the crime alert that was put out by Crime
Prevention Specialist Beth Hoiseth, and a couple other miscellaneous items that I’ll share with
the council. Monthly numbers for the month of May, total calls for service were up by 147 for
the month. Criminal calls were up by 37 compared to last year. For year to date the criminal
calls for service are down by 26. Total calls for year to date are down by 222. Thefts were up a
bit for the month. They were up by 14, and at the last council meeting I talked a little bit about
the gas drive off’s being a problem for the month of May, and we had 11 of those alone that
accounted for those thefts for the month of May and we had 5 calls that originated from one
residence that we had worked on for a bit. Theft related calls were up from 0 last year to 10 this
year, and those include check forgeries, identity theft, credit card theft and things like that, and
we have had an increase in that recently with check forgeries. Property damage was also up.
That was up by 21 over last year, and year to date that is up by 11. Last month we had traffic
stops were up by 58 for that month and for the year they’re down by 8 and citations were 230 for
the month and that was up by 59 over last year and they were up by 60 for the year. Any
questions at all referenced monthly numbers?
Mayor Furlong: Questions for the Sergeant? Just a quick one Sergeant Olson. Licensed day
care. Explain to me, and I think we’ve talked about this before but just so I’m clear. When we
have a, and this is non-criminal listing day care, is that investigation for licensing a day care or is
that problems at day care centers?
Sgt. Jim Olson: That is licensing for the day care. We do background checks and so on for all
perspective day care.
Mayor Furlong: So it has nothing to do with problems at the day cares themselves?
Sgt. Jim Olson: Not at all.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you.
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Sgt. Jim Olson: With 4 of July coming up, I wanted to talk briefly on fireworks and what the
laws are for fireworks in the city. Basically, the easiest way I can put it, any fireworks that go
boom or shoot up in the sky, those are illegal. These include Lady Fingers, Black Cat, bottle
rockets, roman candles, among numerous other things. Legal fireworks, those that are legal
include sparklers, ground spinners, snakes, slow worms, party poppers. Anything that’s kind of
comes out and just goes up just a little bit off the ground, those are legal. Fireworks that aren’t
legal however cannot be set off in any public property, such as parks, trails, or even in the street.
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That isn’t legal so technically the sparklers that come into Lake Ann Park for the 4 of July,
those are illegal. You’re not supposed to do that. And that’s important to remember. So any
questions at all in reference to fireworks for us at all?
Mayor Furlong: So if it’s fun, it’s illegal.
Sgt. Jim Olson: But they’re also a danger. So, we’ve also had a couple of good things that
happened in the past month or, more than a couple but I don’t remember if I shared about the, we
had a pretty large property damage that happened at one of the area churches back in the month
of March. About $17,000 worth of damage. We were finally able to identify and charge 5
juveniles for that crime so that has been taken care of. We also had an incident that I was
actually involved in last week with, a call came in about a vehicle that was following somebody
that was throwing water balloons at cars, and as I pulled up in the area, I was pretty close, they
were running out of an establishment with a woman chasing after them shaking her fist at them.
They had just run in and hit the woman, 72 year old woman with water balloons in this business
establishment. There were 5 people that were in the car and were involved. They were all
detained. As it turned out, we were able to get over a quarter pound of marijuana as well as a
little over $1,100 off that water balloon incident, so the moral of the story is, don’t be throwing
water balloons in Chanhassen. That’s a bad thing. I also wanted to talk briefly about personal
floatation devices. There have been a number of water related accidents around the state this
year. A number of those may have turned out differently if the victims would have been wearing
a personal floatation device or a life preserver. Don’t ruin a great day in the water with a
preventable tragedy. Personal floatation devices are important to wear. You never know what
might happen with a big wake coming through or you know making a turn and being thrown out
of the boat, so personal floatation devices are important. And also alcohol and boating do not
mix real well either. A few of the tragedies that we’ve had around the state have involved
alcohol. Anything else for me at all?
Mayor Furlong: Any questions?
Councilman Peterson: The only, maybe as an aside. There’s a new product out now called
sunscreen. It’s a novel new product. You may want to.
Sgt. Jim Olson: I’ll take a look at that. I’ve had a couple of days in the sun.
Mayor Furlong: Very good, thank you Sergeant.
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Sgt. Jim Olson: Thank you. Have a great 4 of July.
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Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Chief Geske.
Chief Gregg Geske: I’ve also go the same farmer tan going on myself so, and I’ll use sunscreen
but good evening. A couple things I wanted to report on. Our calls have been up recently here
with the weather. We had some weather spotting calls that we were called out on. Some down
trees and stuff and such that we were out for. Calls I think we’ve been up to about 65 for the
month here so this month is up a little bit, but we are still down for the year. We did respond to
the drowning we had on Lake Minnewashta and also had a fatal motorcycle accident here 3
weeks ago so we have not responded to any structure fires, so that’s a good thing. I guess most
of them have been weather related calls that we’ve had recently. We’ve got 8 new fire fighters
that we’ve offered positions to. Currently at, or 38 active fire fighters that we have now so
looking to get them involved here and starting them with training. We’ve got a lot of people
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signing up for the 4 of July for our functions. Running the kiddie parade and running a truck in
that…trucks and stuff so we’re looking forward to that. And again along with the water
incidents and stuff and what the Sergeant was stressing about personal watercrafts, also want to
stress we did some training recently here for heat related incidents and such. Want to stress
people to keep the non-strenuous activities down to a minimum during the heat. It takes a lot out
of it and heat stroke can set in quite rapidly before you notice it and you’re not sweating any
longer and we want to try to avoid that. That’s basically all I have. If you have any questions
for me tonight.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions for the chief. No?
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Chief Gregg Geske: Thanks, and have an enjoyable 4.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you.
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RENAMING THE CHANHASSEN COMMUNITY
GARDENS TO OLSON COMMUNITY GARDENS.
Public Present:
Name Address
Mel Kurvers 7240 Kurvers Point Road
Fred Prinz 408 Santa Fe Circle
Pat McGough 7230 Pontiac Circle
Marian Olson 545 Lake Drive, #218
Linnea Pratt 3639 Larchwood Drive
Kate Aanenson: Thank you. Al Olson contributed much to the development and
implementation of the Chanhassen Community Gardens. He was a constant presence at the site
and informally oversaw the daily operations and upkeep of the gardens. And so to honor him in
his death, we thought it would be appropriate to, in keeping with the city’s policy, consider
renaming it from the Chanhassen Community Gardens to the Olson Community Gardens, so
with that a public hearing is recommended by the city policy. After you open up the public
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hearing and then ultimately we would recommend that the City Council approve the renaming of
the Chanhassen Community Gardens to the Olson Community Gardens as stated in your staff
report.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any questions for staff at this time? If not then I will open up the
public hearing and ask interested parties to come forward to the podium. State your name and
address to comment on this matter. Anybody interested? No? Okay. Without objection then
we’ll close the public hearing and bring it to council for discussion. Any discussion on this
matter?
Councilman Peterson: Mr. Mayor, you know I’ve struggled with this for a few days. Actually
since the last meeting when we talked about it in general. I pulled it off. And taking Al out of it.
I mean Al was certainly critical factor to the success and the ongoing nature of this. So with Al
taken out of it, in general I guess I am concerned about where do we stop with these things? For
citizens that have provided public service, whether it be as a volunteer. Whether it’s an elected
official. Where do we start? Where do we stop? I don’t know whether I have that answer
tonight. We’ve got a lot of individuals in the city who have spent hundreds and hundreds and
hundreds of hours of doing, giving back to our community and what about them? So what do we
do? In this case, a person and a group of people had a good idea and we’re acknowledging what
one individual did, but there were others that certainly have equaled his contribution to the
community and my question is, what about them? And I don’t have the answer. I don’t really
want to say no to this, but I’m concerned about what we’re going to do for other people. And
what does it take to make this happen? Is it, do they have to volunteer more than X number of
hours or do they have to contribute something? What I certainly don’t want, in all due respect to
the Arboretum, if you go out there, you can’t turn around without seeing somebody’s name on a
wall that was donated for time or effort or money. I certainly don’t want to have that. So I’ve
got more questions actually than I do the answers but perhaps it needs more dialogue between us
as a group. I know in my 5 years, I don’t think I’ve, I don’t think we’ve named anything for
anybody.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, council members. The last item I think that we considered was Chan
Pond, and everybody’s wondering where Chan Pond is. It’s called Kerber Pond now and City
Council changed the name on that approximately 7 years ago. You have a policy in front of you.
It’s a policy statement when to consider these things, and in this case it came from a group of
Senior Commission I think started this to follow the policy in renaming the garden to the Olson
Gardens. And they followed the policy. We’re going through that public hearing. And if there’s
anybody else in the community that feels that they’ve put a lot of time or effort into things, you
know that’s what this policy is for. Is consideration for those types of things. In this case Al has
spent enormous amount of his time putting in the effort of weeding individuals gardens when
they’re not around to weed or weeding them. Watering them. Taking care of them you know
basically like his own entire garden. And you know pushed for the community gardens for many
years until they were built several years ago. So we have a policy statement here and it is up to
the City Council to consider these requests based on the policy statement and that’s what the
group of seniors is doing right now. Is asking you to consider that. I think we did that with our
memorial policy that we adopted here a couple weeks ago in handling things so you don’t see
you know name plaques where you turn around every place, but for the renaming of public
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facilities, we felt that this was an appropriate measure based on that individual’s efforts, and so
did a group of other Senior Commission members. So I just wanted to make that point that you
do have a practice in front of you to follow.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Other thoughts. Comments. Councilwoman Tjornhom.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: When I looked through this I guess I just saw it entirely different
than Councilman Peterson. I thought it was a lovely gesture that his name can live on through
these gardens. It’s kind of a symbolic thing I think. You know it shows us where we were and
where we are now and who helped us get here and I think that’s a good story for our children
even to go visit and see a plague and maybe a little history of why it is named this and that’s a
good lesson I think for them how to be good citizens and how to take care of things and that lives
on into another generation and so I think it’s a lovely sentiment.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Other thoughts.
Councilman Labatt: I’ll just agree with Councilwoman Tjornhom. I think Al was worth it.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Councilman Lundquist: Nope.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, alright. You know I agree in this particular case. I think the, there’s
merit and warrant here for, to recognize Al and the contributions that he made. I do understand
Councilman Peterson’s thoughts in terms of policy. I think it’s the, and is there precedent.
We’ve had a few and I think the best way to deal with it is on a case by case basis and try to
evaluate them that way at the council level. It’s always going to be difficult to say no to these
types of requests because usually there are merits behind them and as Councilman Peterson said,
there are far more people that are worthy than perhaps will ever be mentioned so from that
standpoint you are concerned when you omit other people but I think on this particular case, I
think from my understanding of Al’s contribution in this particular case, I think it is fitting so,
but I think to Councilman Peterson’s point, I think we have to keep in mind, and one of the
advantages that Mr. Gerhardt said of the recent memorial policy that was put in place was to try
to standardized this so it would take some of the discretion out of the policy and I think that that
is something that, from a staff standpoint we should try to emphasize and reinforce as people
come and request, now can we recognize and memorialize people and work more with that
policy. As opposed to the naming option so.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, if I could add one more thing that was brought up I think at our Senior
Commission, you know they try to document a little bit more of our history in the downtown and
one of the things that I think was brought up or discussed was a placard maybe and using the
original plat of downtown. Some of the first settlers of downtown and putting that over by the
old Village Hall so as people walk over to the Heritage Park, the park in that area, you know they
can see some of that history and I think we’ll work with the senior group in developing that
placard and getting that back to the council for your consideration so we recognize some of our
history and first settlers in the community and using that plat seemed, seeing where those
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buildings were. They may not be there today but at least that placard will show that maybe they
were next to Axel’s or the Dinner Theater or whatever, so we can keep that history and, for our
kids and family members to see.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any thoughts or discussion on this matter? If not, is there a
motion?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: I make a motion that the Chanhassen City Council approves
renaming of the Chanhassen Community Gardens to the Olson Community Gardens.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman Labatt: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Made and seconded. Any discussion on that motion?
Councilman Peterson: Just for the only comment that I’ll make, because I’m going to vote nay
on this. Not as any relationship to a negative towards Al Olson. I’m going to vote nay because I
think, I think we should review the policy and really determine how we’re going to move ahead
long term before we vote on this, so I’m going to vote nay because of that.
Mayor Furlong: Any other discussion? Hearing none we’ll proceed with the vote.
Councilwoman Tjornhom moved, Councilman Labatt seconded that the City Council
approves renaming of the Chanhassen Community Gardens to the Olson Community
Gardens. All voted in favor, except Councilman Peterson who opposed, and the motion
carried with a vote of 4 to 1.
Todd Gerhardt: To follow up on that Mayor, City Council members, we’ll take a look at that
policy and put it on a future work session.
Mayor Furlong: Absolutely, thank you.
PUBLIC HEARING ON VACATION OF EASEMENTS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY IN
CRESTVIEW, PROJECT 05-11.
Paul Oehme: Thank you Mayor, City Council members. Staff has received a request from Lecy
Brothers, the property owner of Crestview Addition to vacate the existing public drainage and
utility easement within the lot area of the previous plat and a portion of the existing right-of-way
on Crestview Lane that lies within the approved plat of Crestview Addition. The drawing here is
kind of showing the area in question. Crestview Lane is just north of Lake Lucy Road and just
west of Galpin Boulevard and the area here is highlighted easement and proposed to be vacated
and the area hatched is the area of right-of-way proposed to be vacated as well. The existing
public drainage and utility easements were dedicated to the city as part of the Shivley Addition in
1990. On May 9, 2005 the City Council approved the final plat for Crestview Addition creating
5 lots and associated right-of-way for public streets. A condition of approval was to vacate the
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existing right-of-way and drainage and utility easements. Staff has no issues with the proposed
vacations and I stand for questions and I would request that the public hearing be open at this
time.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any questions for staff? This deals just with the schedule you put
up there. Nothing additional along existing Crestview?
Paul Oehme: Correct. It just entails the plat that was approved and again it’s just the area that’s
highlighted here for vacation of easements within the development area plus the right-of-way as
attached, as shown in this drawing.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any other questions for staff?
Councilman Lundquist: We have the new easements dedicated as part of that final plat on that
one already, correct?
Paul Oehme: That’s correct.
Mayor Furlong: The replacement easements? Yeah, okay. Thank you. Additional questions?
No? Okay. If not then I would open up the public hearing and invite all interested parties to
come forward and speak on this matter. If there is no one, then we’ll close the public hearing
without objection and bring it back to council for discussion. Is there any discussion on this?
Seeing none, is there a motion to approve?
Councilman Lundquist: Motion to approve.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion? Hearing none we’ll
proceed with the vote.
Resolution#2005-61: Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded
that the City Council approves the attached resolution vacating a portion of the existing
public right-of-way and drainage and utility easement as defined on the attached vacation
description. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
PUBLIC HEARING ON VACATION OF UTILITY AND DRAINGE EASEMENTS,
BOYER ON LAKE MINNEWASHTA.
Paul Oehme: Thank you Mayor. Staff has also received a request for vacation of easements
through the Boyer Building Corporation for the development of the Boyer Lake Minnewashta
Addition to vacate again the drainage and utility easements on Lots 5, 6, 7, 8 of Block 1 of the
Boyer Lake Minnewashta Addition. The Boyer Lake Minnewashta Addition is shown on this
plat here and in general it’s just located south of 5, or south of Trunk Highway 7 on Dartmouth
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Drive. The existing drainage and utility easements were granted to the city as part of the Boyer
Lake Minnewashta Addition. It was platted in 2005. With the lots consolidation, from 4 lots to
3 lots a new drainage and utility easement had been dedicated to the city for new drainage and
utility and relocation and storm sewer lines. In order to remove the old easements, encumbrance
with the new Boyer Minnewashta Lake lots, the developer has requested that the city vacate the
old easement. Staff has no objection with the easements to be dedicated and the easements to be
vacated, and again this drawing, or I’m showing the, in blue here the easements to be vacated
and the new drainage and utility easements that are dedicated. And again it’s to consolidate from
3 lots, or from 4 lots down to 3 lots as the developer has requested so. With that I stand for
questions and again I request a public hearing be opened.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any questions for staff? No? Okay. At this time I will open the
public hearing as well and invite all interested parties to come forward and speak on this matter.
Seeing nobody, without objection we’ll close the public hearing and bring it back to council for
discussion. Any discussion on this matter? If not is there a motion to approve?
Councilman Peterson: So moved.
Mayor Furlong: Is there a second?
Councilman Lundquist: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none, we’ll
proceed with the vote.
Resolution#2005-62: Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Lundquist seconded that
the City Council approves a resolution vacating drainage and utility easements (light
shaded) and dedicating the new public drainage and utility easements (dark shaded) as
defined on the attached vacation and parcels A, B and C legal descriptions, with the
following conditions:
1. Due to the relocation of property lines, existing easements need to be vacated and new
easements dedicated. The request before the City Council is to vacate some of the
existing easements.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
REQUEST FOR A 5 FOOT VARIANCE FROM THE MINIMUM 10 FOOT SIDE YARD
SETBACK TO BUILD A STORAGE SHED, 7450 CHANHASSEN ROAD, TIMOTHY
AND DIANE MCHUGH, PLANNING CASE 05-17.
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Kate Aanenson: Thank you. This item appeared before the Planning Commission on May 17.
It was recommended for denial by a 3-2 vote. Therefore, because it did not receive the 75% as
required by the city code, this item is here before the City Council for final action. The subject
site is located on Chanhassen Road or 101. Has access onto Lotus Lake. The subdivision was
created in 1954, although the house wasn’t built until the mid 80’s. Again with the same
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direction of the lot, this would be 101. It does have lake access. It’s a very deep lot. It’s non-
conforming as far as the narrowness of the lot and the square footage because it’s a riparian lot.
It would require 20,000 square feet. It has the appropriate depth but not enough width. The staff
in the background reviewed their existing non-conforming and variances given in the immediate
area which were attached in your staff report. The topography on the lot is sloped in various
locations, thus limiting options for the placement of the shed. So the city did receive notice of
the addition to the house. Somebody thought it was an addition and actually it was a shed. So
this is a view looking again towards the lake. On there you can see that the lot is pretty steep, so
the applicant in front of their letter, you may have noticed, to take you back. First part is
visibility. To put the shed somewhere on the site would also impede somebody else’s visibility
of the lake, so ultimately they had decided to attach to the house. In order to maintain the 10 foot
setback they encroach 5 foot so that’s what the request is, for a 5 foot variance. Again you know
the staff in reviewing this, if you were to put it towards the lake, it probably would increase
somebody else’s obstruction of the lake, so if you were to grant a variance and does it seem
reasonable to attach it, the staff struggled with this and actually recommended either way for the
Planning Commission. They felt that the literal interpretation and was somewhat split with the
3-2 vote. So in the recommendation of the staff report, one of the concerns that we had is if the
City Council were, to be consistent with the house and as they kind of laid it out, it is, it’s got the
shed roof and architecturally compatible with the siding so it looks like, again in the regular city
ordinance we do allow some bay windows and those sort of architectural features to encroach.
So with that if you turn to page 8 on the recommendation, the Planning Commission stated that
denial, because they have reasonable use of the property, or the request if you do choose to grant
the variance, the construction of the shed be, match the principal structure using the vertical
siding on the shed and painting the same color as the principal structure. With that I’d be happy
to answer any questions that you may have.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions for staff. There may be some in a minute but are the
McHugh’s here this evening? Any comments you’d like to make this evening?
Tim McHugh: Yes. Tim and Diane McHugh. We’re the property owners at 7450 Chanhassen
Road and as I stated we’re here basically, 3-4 weeks ago we were at the Planning Commission
and a lot of the members felt they didn’t have a good feel for the area. How it really looked in
there so we did supply more pictures and you know just to take about 10 seconds here to give
you a review how we really ended up here is when we originally designed the shed, it was under
120 square feet so I really didn’t believe I needed a permit. It turns out you don’t. What you
need the permit for is the setback which I’ll be honest I didn’t realize that, and that’s how we got
there. They originally thought it was an addition to the house because we kind of designed it that
way so it would blend in and the siding and everything, we designed and purchased was
basically we took that into account and the whole purpose was so it wasn’t intrusive to any of the
neighbors. And also I believe in the documentation you have, after the Planning Commission
they went in and searched the records and there’s a list of all the ones in the neighborhood that
do not comply for the variances. This is, this one here is the house. The little, the property to the
south of us has two rental properties. The main house, which they rent out 5 bedrooms I believe
and then the little house, 2 bedrooms. As you can see, that one is on the property line on their
south side. This is looking at their property. But the main one I wanted you to see is, yeah on
this one. This is looking again down at the lake and the, this black line is actually the property
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line and you can see part of the shed down there. It’s basically 6 feet from the property line but
then there’s 10 inches for the, what’s that called up there? Yeah, the overhang so you have to
get, yeah.
Kate Aanenson: It’s part of the…
Tim McHugh: And because of the slope of the land, there’s really no place else we could really
figure out what, to look at this one quick. This is towards 101. It’s a 4 foot berm and to get there
you really have to go out onto the path, into the neighbors driveway to get up into the berm. This
retaining wall, when you stand down here, it’s probably over 8 feet up to the top. The retaining
wall actually is 1 foot closer to the property line, and that’s totally legal I’m told. The retaining
wall can be within an inch like a fence so. If I can answer any questions, I’d be more than happy
to. From the lake, on this one here, one can really barely see it in there.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Any questions for the McHugh’s? Comments? Okay, no?
Okay, thank you.
Tim McHugh: Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Any additional questions or follow-up questions? I guess, Kate as I thought
that I have one. Ms. Aanenson, excuse me. In the staff report it speaks of non-conforming lot
and the non-conformity here is on the width of the lot, is that correct? And the size of the lot.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. And the width is 55 feet, if I’m remembering the report correctly, versus
what’s the current standard, 90?
Kate Aanenson: 90.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. So this was, this lot was platted prior to those standards coming into
place.
Kate Aanenson: Different standards, correct.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. And the location of the shed is on the side so it’s coming, it’s widening
the structure a little bit over the existing structure.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct.
Mayor Furlong: Current structure’s outside the setbacks?
Kate Aanenson: No, the current structure does meet the 10 foot side yard, yeah.
Mayor Furlong: Right. And when were the, those standards, the 10 foot side put in place, do
you recall?
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Kate Aanenson: It would have probably had to been in the late 70’s, mid 70’s. Before this lot
was, this lot again was created, well the house wasn’t built. The lot was created much narrower
than we would allow today.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Alright. Thank you. Any other questions? Follow-up questions? Is
there discussion on the matter?
Councilman Peterson: Mr. Mayor, just in general I think it’s a reasonable request. I guess I
would rather have, I would rather have the structure where it is versus in the middle of the lot
towards the lake. Stand alone, which was the other option that would be conforming. They’re
going to make it look like part of the house and to that end I think it’s a reasonable variance to
grant.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: I agree with Councilman Peterson.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: I would…and it does blend in and you know what are the options?
We discussed structures…and so I also agree that it’s reasonable.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Councilman Lundquist.
Councilman Lundquist: I echo those sentiments.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you.
Councilman Labatt: I don’t disagree with it at all. The one neighbor at 7440 I believe…he’s to
the south, right? He’s be the one that’s directly impacted.
Mayor Furlong: And to your point, he didn’t have any problem with it.
Councilman Labatt: No.
Mayor Furlong: Didn’t have any problem with it, and the other thing I looked at is, where else
could you see it from and the answer is no.
Kate Aanenson: And just to be clear too. In the shoreland district you can put a storage unit in
your front yard for those purposes. Because of the lot configuration, that’s not an option either.
So it was limited.
Mayor Furlong: Well I agree with the council on the reasonableness and I also, when you have a
non-conforming lot, I think we look for options and look for reasonable solutions rather than the
strict adherence to the code so. Sounds like we’re in agreement. Is there any further discussion?
Then if not, is there a motion?
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Councilman Lundquist: I would move that the City Council approve Variance 05-17 for a 5 foot
variance for a minimum 10 foot side yard setback to build a storage shed on a riparian lot zoned
Single Family RSF with conditions 1 as published in the staff report.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Made and seconded. Any discussion on that motion? If there is none, I will
proceed with the vote.
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded that the City Council
approves Variance #05-17 for a 5 foot variance from the minimum 10 foot side yard
setback to build a storage shed on a riparian lot zoned Single Family Residential (RSF),
with the following condition:
1. Construction of the shed shall match the principal structure by using vertical siding on the
exterior of the shed and painting the shed the same color as the principal structure.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
SAND COMPANIES, INC.; LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LYMAN
BOULEVARD AND REALIGNED 101; PLANNING CASE 05-10:
A. REQUEST FOR REZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, MIXED USE.
B. CONSIDER LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR TAX CREDIT APPLICATION.
Kate Aanenson: Thank you. Sorry, I’ve got a big board here. This item appeared before the
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Planning Commission on June 7. Part of that, you had reviewed this under a conceptual PUD,
as did the Planning Commission. Again they wanted to get a read from the Planning
Commission and the City Council regarding acquisition of the property. The Sand Companies
now has acquired the property. Again the location of the property is, this is the widened,
proposed widened Lyman Boulevard and then the new 101. Current location right here and the
new 101 moving to the west. So obviously development of these two parcels is predicated on the
relocation of the infrastructure and improvements to the property. Again 212 divides this
property. The northern piece which would have access via Lake Susan Drive, and the south
portion access via 101 and tied through to Lyman Boulevard. The purpose of the meeting
tonight is just to review the PUD development standards. They will have to come back for
specific site plan review on each project, so again that’s kind of tied into a little bit more of the
212. So with that, I’m going to really kind of focus on the PUD design standards themselves.
The PUD that we put in place is pretty similar to the one that we actually put over on the Park
and Ride facility. Just kind of want to go through that. In the comprehensive plan this is guided
for mixed use development so it does allow for neighborhood commercial as stated in the
comprehensive plan, and for residential up to 16 units an acre. The plan contemplates, if you go
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to page 8 of the staff report, the design standards, the intent is that this be a mixed use PUD.
Neighborhood commercial and office residential. Again the purpose of the mixed neighborhood
as we build, this is an appropriate scale based on existing residential in the area. Making sure
we’ve got good transition. Again we’re calling out specific uses. For example office in this
location provided a good buffer for noise attenuation from the neighbors. Because we have a
600 deck, or 600 parking deck. 600 cars in this parking deck, there’s an opportunity for some of
the commercial support here as well as the residential that combines with that, so again we
wanted the commercial to be such a scale that it provides for those immediate neighbors. So if
you look at the permitted uses that we put in here, small to medium restaurant or no single use to
exceed 8,000 square feet. A drive thru bank would be the only one that we’d want to see a drive
thru window, and that’s not necessarily bad because sometimes those speakers are loud.
Daycare. Again the goal there was to be a commercial that would be support a neighborhood
use. Not one large user from a regional draw but more again to support what’s going on in the
neighborhood. And again the maximum number of units, we capped at 150. Again that would
go to the site plan and I think they’re pretty close on what they’re looking at for specifically C,
which would be the northern half looking at that, if our townhouses and then the apartment
building there, and then the other apartment building would be at this location but then the rest of
this would be either strip retail or office in that area. We did in the PUD provide setbacks.
Because it is a PUD there is transitional and buffering requirements. Again we did cap the
commercial so it’s all residential, if they decided to go all commercial in the PUD, again this
PUD spells out what that balance should be so we have some residential and some commercial
again to protect ourselves if something, one big box user wanted to proceed. And that again was
the intent with not any single user greater than 8,000 square feet, and that’s pretty typical of what
we’ve done in neighborhood commercial, and that would be similar to what we have on
Highway 5 or the two intersections.
Mayor Furlong: If I can interrupt. Is it 8,000 or 5,000?
Kate Aanenson: 8,000.
Mayor Furlong: In the neighborhood commercial?
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: This says 8,000.
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: I guess I had 5,000 in my mind but you’re saying 8 is what we’ve done?
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, for any single use. Yeah. I typically, when we have uses that are a lot
smaller than that. Even restaurants. You can get some, a drive, not a drive thru but a walk in
restaurant that could be 1,500. Again that’s to stay… a less desirable use. That doesn’t meet the
daily needs. Again we put standards in place for residential and materials and for the
commercial too. What our expectations are for design and the developer has agreed with those.
Again we try to call all the things that we believe and would meet to make the project… Again
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as specific projects come in, not to say just as we have done with other PUD’s, that we may have
to do some adjusting but again this is for them to help market because the Sand Companies who
is the developer will own their residential component, but the commercial it’s the intent to spin
off so we want to make sure we have clear direction and what our expectations are. So with that
the Planning Commission on a 7-0 vote recommended approval and staff is also recommending
approval of the PUD. So I’d be happy to answer any questions that you have.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions for staff.
Councilman Peterson: Kate under your PUD design standards, you’re basically pulling those
from previous developments that are similar in nature?
Kate Aanenson: Correct. And we also have added the multi-family design standards that we just
proposed to you last fall, that the Planning Commission did and then so those are also included
as far as inclusion of a little more brick in some of the residential.
Councilman Peterson: And that’s really my question I think I’ve been kind of like a broken
record. The bigger the buildings we get, the more concerned I am about, about just the look and
feel, the appropriateness to the neighborhood. So that it’s not a big box and I know that with the
PUD we have the ability to hold quite a bit of leverage on that. And I think, as one council
person, I’d be more aggressive in saying I really want something different. I don’t know what
that is until, I know what I don’t like.
Kate Aanenson: Well, I think we did give them some folders to look at, at what our expectation
is to make sure that we’re speaking the same way, and obviously one of the easiest ways is
through the articulation so it’s not flat walls. Similar to what we did at Presbyterian Homes
where you’ve got the balconies. Some of the movement of the buildings and I believe that we’re
in concurrence on that and these design standards reflect that.
Councilman Peterson: Okay.
Mayor Furlong: Other questions. A couple questions that came up in the Planning Commission
meeting, both from the commissioners as well as from residents. One was the issue of the
location of the pedestrian trail and I don’t know if that’s something maybe we want to address. I
know that we were focusing on a trail for one side but that doesn’t necessarily mean that there
has to be crossing of 101 for people for north or south access.
Kate Aanenson: This is a tough struggle and the cost issue too, and I’ll let Todd talk about some
of it but when we put together the 101 with MnDot, we actually put the sidewalk on this side of
the street. A lot of the commercial is over here. So for this portion of the Sand Companies,
which is on the other side of 212, it does mean if you want to go to the commercial immediately
south, so they don’t run across 212. There’s not an opportunity to do another underpass for cross
purposes. So you would have to cross, come down and then cross again. It’s not the best.
Todd Hoffman: It’s one way or the other. The Mission Hills people, they’re going to be happy.
So one side or the other.
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Mayor Furlong: If this development was on the east side, it probably wouldn’t come up.
Todd Hoffman: And as we moved through the process of developing the pedestrian routes
through the Highway 212 corridor, it was our position we would put those trails on one side of
each bridge and so you have to pick one side or the other. One thing to note is that this is shown
in the wrong location on Lyman. This trail is on the north side, so you will have an opportunity
to leave this neighborhood, through a trail and then access this property without crossing a major
intersection or major road, so for this route we took the neighborhood route and something to
keep in mind when you plan these trail connections, you always want to put the trail on the side
of the street where the homes are at. But in this case you have residents in homes along the
entire corridor. Mission Hills, large neighborhood. Chanhassen Hills, large neighborhood. We
also want to make the most defined connection between our downtown and the southern corridor
of our park system at Bandimere Community Park so those are some of the reasons we stayed on
the east side at this location.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. The other, one of the other issues that came up at Planning
Commission was the height of the apartment building. Limitation of the apartment building. I
think the applicant actually brought that up. Right now it’s at 35 and they were saying
something higher is typical.
Kate Aanenson: It’s 35.
Mayor Furlong: That’s what we have in here?
Kate Aanenson: Yeah.
Mayor Furlong: And that’s throughout.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, I’m not sure whether the interpretation of the height…
Mayor Furlong: Why don’t you come up to the microphone sir. You or someone from your
group is going to be here in a second anyways so.
Richard Hennings: I’m Richard Hennings, the architect for Sand Companies, and I’m the person
that brought that up just because I’m concerned that if, at least in my mind it runs a little counter
productive, or counter intuitive to your design standards in that, in that it allows 3 stories but our
3 story buildings, just by the nature of how they’re built nowadays are 28 feet to the top floor
ceiling. 29 feet to the spring line of the truss, and if you maintain the 35 foot average, it really
limits you to maybe a 4:12 pitch, and that’s probably the last thing you want to do is have real
flat roofs on these buildings, and so I know the Planning Commission said we should just talk
about that during the individual, each individual building and that’s okay, but it does seem that
those two things may be butting heads with each other a little bit in my mind.
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Kate Aanenson: I believe that the only rub would be on the two apartment buildings. Right so,
and it may be in how we interpret. Typically we take from the middle part of the pitch, so I’m
not sure if Sharmeen looked at that.
Richard Hennings: Well it does, yes you do take from the mid-point of the roof. But like I say,
in the buildings because they’re fairly wide and you want them wide rather than long and
narrow, and therefore the roof gets high is the only reason I brought it up.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. And maybe that is an issue that we look at with each individual design.
Kate Aanenson: With the site plan.
Mayor Furlong: Which might help Councilman Peterson’s issue as well. Okay. Thank you.
Any other questions? On the PUD at this point. If not, the applicant is here this evening. If
there’s anything that you’d like to say at this point on this matter. No? Okay. Thank you. This
was a public hearing at the Planning Commission but if anybody else would like to provide
comment to the council, I would certainly invite them up at this time as well. Seeing nobody.
Bring it back to the council then for discussion or additional thoughts. Councilman Peterson,
you were raising some questions earlier. Some thoughts on this or?
Councilman Peterson: Yeah, I think it’s a reasonable request and again speaking on behalf of
myself, it’s simply, I’m going to push hard to make it really architecturally interesting so the
architectural design, I’m looking for something that’s very distinctive and creative.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Other thoughts. On the PUD.
Councilman Lundquist: I think it’s reasonable. I like the, for this application using the PUD tool
rather than other options available, so it allows us some more flexibility to do the things that
Councilman Peterson was referring to. So it seems like the right thing to do. It’s good access.
On the highway and some of the other things that Kate talked about as well with the parking
deck and some of those other things as well so I think it fits in, I feel like it fits in well, as well
and I guess we’ll just look for the, curious to see what the specifics will be when we get into the
final design and those things.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Thank you. Your thoughts Councilman Labatt.
Councilman Labatt: No. I mean the issue with the sidewalks is a concern and that will be
something I would wish the developer would look at is, the city would put one on the west side
also. That behooves me why we wouldn’t want one on each side for.
Kate Aanenson: The problem is the decking of the bridge over the overpass of 212. The cost of
that.
Todd Gerhardt: To accommodate a trail along, over the top of 212, the bridge needs to be
expanded by 10 to 12 feet. And that cost, MnDot will pick up the first trail widening on the
bridge. The second one falls back as a responsibility onto the city and we opted out of that when
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we looked at the 101, Powers and we’re still working on the Bluff Creek one right now. But it’s
roughly about $250,000 for each pedestrian overpass, or widening of the sidewalk for each of the
roads. Just for the bridge section.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. I think you know the comments were made this evening with regard to
the design standards that Councilman Peterson brought up. If I’m correct I think the standards
that are quote in place, in addition to the new ones for medium density that we put in just this last
year…Highway 5 corridor standards that we’ve spread out across the city now and if memory
serves that was back in the late 90’s that that standard was put in place. ’98-’99. Somewhere
like that. And maybe as we sit here in 2005, it’s time to look at those and maybe step them up a
notch. I wouldn’t be at all opposed to looking at that, as a kind of a review. As a way to look at
that. Not just for this particular PUD but throughout. 212 is going to be a major corridor and it
will be a view that many people that aren’t residents of Chanhassen will see of our city as they
drive through, and both from a commercial standpoint as well as landscaping requirements and
such like that. At least maybe it’s something that we should start talking about and say what do
we want to do here. To the extent that we, at least under this PUD I guess it’d be something that
I’d like to consider somehow to, since we’re a couple years away from the development here,
since it likely will tie with the completion of 212, I’d like to make sure that we have a way to
incorporate, if we do decide as a council to modify, step up those, that those would be included
as well in this and the other developments that we’re talking about. So I don’t know from a
process standpoint how we do that. From a condition on this PUD, if we have to put something
in there or, I mean it refers to ordinance I believe. It does as a condition, if I read it correctly in
terms of materials and designs and such.
Kate Aanenson: Correct. And as those are modified then they would follow that, and we can put
that in there. The PUD would follow any modifications to the design standards.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Not necessarily assume that they’d be there, but let’s look at it and if
there are, let’s make sure that this gets included, anything like that. Any other thoughts or
comments on the PUD? If not, there’s another item associated with this. We could either take
them separately, which is consideration of a letter of support regarding a tax credit application or
we could bring, we could vote on the PUD. Bring that up second. Is there a preference one way
or the other?
Councilman Lundquist: Do this one first.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, that’s fine. Why don’t we go ahead and consider a motion then on item
7(a).
Councilman Lundquist: Is that the one on page 8? I would move that the City Council approve
Rezoning of property located in the northwest quadrant at the intersection of realigned Highway
101 and Lyman with the, from residential single family to planned unit development mixed use.
With the design standards as printed in the staff report and modifications of the design standards.
That the PUD follow any modifications of design standards between now and.
Mayor Furlong: Say final approval.
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Councilman Lundquist: Final approval.
Mayor Furlong: Good, thank you. Any, is there a second to that motion?
Councilman Labatt: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Second Councilman Labatt. Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none we’ll
proceed with the vote.
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Labatt seconded that the City Council
approves rezoning the property located at the northwest quadrant of the intersection of
realigned Highway 101 and Lyman Boulevard with an approximate area of 24 acres from
Residential Single Family to Planned Unit Development-Mixed Use incorporating the
following design standards:
CHANHASSEN GATEWAY
PUD DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS
a. Intent
The purpose of this zone is to create a MIXED USE PUD including a
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL. The use of the
PUD zone is to allow for more flexible design standards while creating a higher quality
and more sensitive development. Each structure proposed for development shall proceed
through site plan review based on the development standards outlined below.
b. Permitted Uses
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The permitted uses in this zone should be limited to appropriate commercial and
service uses consistent with meeting the daily needs of the neighborhood. The uses
shall be limited to those as defined herein. If there is a question as to whether or not a
use meets the definition, the Community Development Director shall make that
interpretation. The type of uses to be provided on these lots shall be low intensity
neighborhood oriented retail and service establishments to meet daily needs of
residents. Commercial and office uses shall be limited to the area located south of
Highway 212. Residential uses shall be located north of Highway 212 and along the
western portion of the southern half.
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Small to medium-sized restaurant-not to exceed 8,000 square feet per building (no
drive-thru windows)
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Banks with a drive-in service window
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Office
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Day care
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Neighborhood scale commercial up to 8,000 square feet per tenant
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Convenience store with or without gas pumps
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Specialty retail (Book Store, Jewelry, Sporting Goods Sale/Rental, Retail Sales,
Retail Shops, Apparel Sales, etc.)
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Personal Services(an establishment or place of business primarily engaged in
providing individual services generally related to personal needs, such as a Tailor
Shop, Shoe Repair, Self-Service Laundry, Laundry Pick-up Station, Dry Cleaning,
Dance Studios, etc).
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Residential High Density (8-16 units per net acre). The total number of units for the
entire site may not exceed 150 units.
c. Building Area
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Commercial/Office – Not to exceed 75,000 square feet for the entire development
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Maximum Commercial/Office lot usage is a Floor Area Ratio of 0.3
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Maximum office/commercial building area per tenant may not exceed 8,000 square
feet
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Maximum residential units may not exceed 150 units.
d. Prohibited Ancillary Uses
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Drive-thru Windows except banks or pharmacies.
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Outdoor storage and display of merchandise
e. Setbacks
The PUD ordinance requires setbacks from roadways and exterior property lines. The
following table displays those setbacks.
Boundary Building/ Parking
Setbacks (feet)
Lyman Boulevard 50/50
Highway 101 50/50
Highway 212 50/50
Northerly Project Property Line 50/20
Westerly Project Property Line 50/20
Internal Project property lines 0 /0
Hard Surface Coverage-Residential 50 %
Commercial and Office Hard Surface Coverage 70 %
Maximum Commercial (Retail) Building/Structure Height 1 story
Maximum Office Building/Structure Height 2 stories
Maximum Residential Building/Structure Height 35 or 3 stories,
whichever is less
f. Non Residential Building Materials and Design
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There shall not be underdeveloped backsides of buildings. All elevations shall receive
nearly equal treatment and visual qualities. Buildings and site design shall comply with
design standards outlined in Article XXIII. General Supplemental Regulations, Division
7 of the Zoning Ordinance.
g. Residential Standards
Buildings and site design shall comply with design standards outlined in Article XXIII.
General Supplemental Regulations, Division 9 of the Zoning Ordinance.
1.All units shall have access onto an interior private street.
2.A design palette shall be approved for the entire project. The palette shall include
colors for siding, shakes, shutters, shingles, brick, stone, etc.
3.All foundation walls shall be screened by landscaping or retaining walls.
h. Site Landscaping and Screening
The intent of this section is to improve the appearance of vehicular use areas and property
abutting public rights-of-way; to require buffering between different land uses; and to
protect, preserve and promote the aesthetic appeal, character and value of the surrounding
neighborhoods; to promote public health and safety through the reduction of noise
pollution, air pollution, visual pollution and glare.
1.The landscaping standards shall provide for screening for visual impacts associated
with a given use, including but not limited to, truck loading areas, trash storage,
parking lots, Large unadorned building massing, etc.
2.Each lot for development shall submit a separate landscaping plan as a part of the site
plan review process.
3.All open spaces and non-parking lot surfaces, except for plaza areas, shall be
landscaped, rockscaped, or covered with plantings and/or lawn material. Tree wells
shall be included in pedestrian areas and plazas.
4.Undulating berms, north of Lyman Boulevard, north and south of Highway 212 and
west of Highway 101 shall be sodded or seeded at the conclusion of grading and utility
construction. The required buffer landscaping may be installed where it is deemed
necessary to screen any proposed development. All required boulevard landscaping
shall be sodded.
5.Loading areas shall be screened from public right-of-ways. Wing walls may be required
where deemed appropriate.
6.Native species shall be incorporated into site landscaping, whenever possible.
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i. Street Furnishings
Benches, kiosks, trash receptacles, planters and other street furnishings should be of
design and materials consistent with the character of the area. Wherever possible, street
furnishings should be consolidated to avoid visual clutter and facilitate pedestrian
movement.
j. Signage
The intent of this section is to establish an effective means of communication in the
development, maintain and enhance the aesthetic environment and the business’s ability
to attract sources of economic development and growth, to improve pedestrian and traffic
safety, to minimize the possible adverse effect of signs on nearby public and private
property, and to enable the fair and consistent enforcement of these sign regulations. It is
the intent of this section, to promote the health, safety, general welfare, aesthetics, and
image of the community by regulating signs that are intended to communicate to the
public, and to use signs which meet the city's goals:
a.Establish standards which permit businesses a reasonable and equitable opportunity to
advertise their name and service;
b.Preserve and promote civic beauty, and prohibit signs which detract from this
objective because of size, shape, height, location, condition, cluttering or
illumination;
c.Ensure that signs do not create safety hazards;
d.Ensure that signs are designed, constructed, installed and maintained in a manner that
does not adversely impact public safety or unduly distract motorists;
e.Preserve and protect property values;
f.Ensure signs that are in proportion to the scale of, and are architecturally compatible
with, the principal structures;
g.Limit temporary commercial signs and advertising displays which provide an
opportunity for grand opening and occasional sales events while restricting signs
which create continuous visual clutter and hazards at public right-of-way
intersections.
j.1. Project Identification Sign:
One project identification sign for the commercial portion of the development located at
the entrance off of Highway 101. Project identification signs shall not exceed 80square
feet in sign display area nor be greater than eight feet in height. The sign shall be setback
a minimum of 10 feet from the property line.
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j.2. Monument Sign:
One monument sign shall be permitted at the entrance to the development off of Lake
Susan Drive. One monument sign per lot shall be permitted for the commercial portion
of the site. These signs shall not exceed 24 square feet in sign display area nor be greater
than five feet in height. These signs shall be setback a minimum of 10 feet from the
property line.
j.3. Wall Signs:
a.The location of letters and logos shall be restricted to the approved building sign
bands, the tops of which shall not extend greater than 20 feet above the ground. The
letters and logos shall be restricted to a maximum of 30 inches in height. All individual
letters and logos comprising each sign shall be constructed of wood, metal, or
translucent facing.
b.Illuminated signs that can be viewed from neighborhoods outside the PUD site, are
prohibited.
c.Tenant signage shall consist of store identification only. Copy is restricted to the
tenant’s proper name and major product or service offered. Corporate logos,
emblems and similar identifying devices are permitted provided they are confined
within the signage band and do not occupy more than 15% of the sign area unless the
logo is the sign.
j.4. Festive Flags/Banners
a.Flags and banners shall be permitted on approved standards attached to the building
facade and on standards attached to pedestrian area lighting.
b.Flags and banners shall be constructed of fabric or vinyl.
c.Banners shall not contain advertising for individual users, businesses, services, or
products.
d.Flags and banners shall project from buildings a maximum of two feet.
e.Flags and banners shall have a maximum area of 10 square feet.
f.Flags and banners which are torn or excessively worn shall be removed at the request
of the city.
j.5. Building Directory
a.In multi-tenant buildings, one building directory sign may be permitted. The
directory sign shall not exceed eight square feet.
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j.6 Directional Signs
a.On-premises signs shall not be larger than four (4) square feet. The maximum height
of the sign shall not exceed five (5) feet from the ground. The placement of
directional signs on the property shall be so located such that the sign does not
adversely affect adjacent properties (including site lines or confusion of adjoining
ingress or egress) or the general appearance of the site from public rights-of-way. No
more than four (4) signs shall be allowed per lot. The city council may allow
additional signs in situations where access is confusing or traffic safety could be
jeopardized.
b.Off-premises signs shall be allowed only in situations where access is confusing and
traffic safety could be jeopardized or traffic could be inappropriately routed through
residential streets. The size of the sign shall be no larger than what is needed to
effectively view the sign from the roadway and shall be approved by the city council.
c.Bench signs are prohibited except at transit stops as authorized by the local transit
authority.
d.Signs and Graphics. Wherever possible, traffic control, directional and other public
signs should be consolidated and grouped with other street fixtures and furnishings to
reduce visual clutter and to facilitate vehicular and pedestrian movement. A system of
directional signs should also be established to direct traffic within the commercial
area and away from residential areas.
j.7.Prohibited Signs:
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Pylon signs are prohibited.
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Back lit awnings are prohibited.
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Window Signs are prohibited except for company logo/symbol and not the name.
Such logo shall not exceed 10% of a window area
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Menu Signs are prohibited.
j.8. Sign Design and Permit Requirements:
a.The sign treatment is an element of the architecture and thus should reflect the quality
of the development. The signs should be consistent in color, size, and material and
height throughout the development. A common theme will be introduced at the
development's entrance monument and will be used throughout.
b.All signs require a separate sign permit.
c.Wall business signs shall comply with the city’s sign ordinance for the Neighborhood
business district for determination of maximum sign area. Wall signs may be
permitted on the “street” front and primary parking lot front of each building.
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k. Lighting
1. Lighting for the interior of the development shall be consistent throughout the
development. High pressure sodium vapor lamps with decorative natural colored pole shall
be used throughout the development parking lot area for lighting. Decorative, pedestrian
scale lighting shall be used in plaza and sidewalk areas and may be used in parking lot
areas.
2. Light fixtures should be kept to a pedestrian scale (12 to 18 feet). Street light fixtures
should accommodate vertical banners for use in identifying the commercial area.
3. All light fixtures shall be shielded. Light level for site lighting shall be no more than
½ candle at the project perimeter property line. This does not apply to street lighting.
4. Lighting for parking areas shall minimize the use of lights on pole standards in the
parking area. Rather, emphasis should be placed on building lights and poles located in
close proximity to buildings.
l. Non Residential Parking
1.Parking shall be provided based on the shared use of parking areas whenever
possible. Cross access easements and the joint use of parking facilities shall be
protected by a recorded instrument acceptable to the city.
2.The development shall be treated as an integrated shopping center and provide a
minimum of one space per 200 square feet of commercial/retail area. The
office/personal service component shall be treated as an integrated office building and
provide 4.5 space per 1,000 square feet for the first 49,999 square feet, four per
thousand square feet for the second 50,000 square feet, and 3.5 per thousand square
feet thereafter.
m. Residential Parking shall comply with city code requirements.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Mayor Furlong: Next item on the agenda is related to the PUD that we just passed, is a request
by the developer to consider a letter of support in their application for tax credit financing. Why
don’t we move to a staff report please Mr. Miller.
Justin Miller: Sure. Mayor, council. The last work session we had the applicant approach you
about providing a letter of support indicating what kinds of financial support the city is willing to
provide. They are applying for tax credits and a level of assistance from the city would give
them some additional points in that process. It’s a highly competitive process that I think they
told you about last week. We left that meeting and staff, or council gave staff some direction to
check up on a few things. One of those being references. We did call representatives from other
cities that the applicant has done projects in and they all came back very good. They spoke very
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highly of the applicants. Said they worked well with staff. It was a high quality project and they
were very flexible and met the requests of the councils and staff so we feel comfortable with
those references. The applicant also provided a preliminary tax credit application scoring sheet
on the points that they feel they would earn if there’s city assistance and if there’s not and I
believe that that scoring tabulation is attached to the report. Then staff and the applicant went
through several revisions on a letter that we feel like meets their needs in terms of securing
points for their application, as well as giving the city some flexibility and not locking us into
anything definite and so that letter’s attached as well, and staff would recommend that you
approve the letter as attached. Be glad to answer any questions.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Questions for staff.
Councilman Peterson: One of the questions I had was in the second to the last paragraph where
we talk about flexibility and the zoning and development standards. I’m a little concerned with
flexibility in the development standards, even though we discussed it’s a PUD. But you know it
seems to allude that we were going to lessen our standards to make this thing move ahead faster.
That is a worrisome statement from my perspective.
Todd Gerhardt: Kate, did you want to probably elaborate on what you meant by that statement.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, and actually what the PUD is, we transferred the density from the north
to the south and that’s the part of the flexibility. Just in the fact that we’re creating a PUD as a
zoning technique that gives them points. Creation of a PUD.
Councilman Peterson: I understand that. I just didn’t, I read it and then it just didn’t, it sounded
like we were willing to give up on our standards and that was just a concern. Again it’s a minor
point.
Kate Aanenson: We didn’t. I mean we even told them now that we want to see the project
before we look at the roof lines so we haven’t.
Todd Gerhardt: Yeah, I think their original letter had setbacks, parking and we eliminated those
items from the letter. I think this one just dealt with the transfer of units. I wonder if we can just
write that language in there.
Councilman Peterson: Yeah, I don’t want to word smith. I was just giving a reflection more
than anything else.
Kate Aanenson: I think we changed that.
Mayor Furlong: That we did change it?
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, I think the way it’s written now it reflects.
Mayor Furlong: What we did.
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Kate Aanenson: Yep.
Mayor Furlong: Consistent with what we’ve done. What we just passed.
Kate Aanenson: Correct, what you just passed.
Mayor Furlong: A few minutes ago.
Kate Aanenson: …and that was the goal. Right as we understood.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Good. Any other questions? Of staff. If not, is there any discussion by
the council? Or is there anyone else that would like to provide input to the council before we
discuss too. I’d certainly invite public comment. If anybody would like to come forward. If not,
that’s fine. Okay. Discussion by the council.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, City Council members. I just want to make one point that the assistance
that we’re looking at here is very similar to, or exactly like the assistance that we provided to
Presbyterian Homes. I just want to make that clear. We’re following the same standards and
guidelines that we used on that project.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Thoughts, discussion on this?
Councilman Lundquist: Mr. Mayor, it’s been one, I think we talked a little bit at our work
session, one of the troubling points of it was kind of the speed at which it came along. I’m glad
to see some of the things around the scoring and I probably still don’t understand that process
enough to understand it. 12 points is the make or break line, but I think regardless some of the
concerns on this one, it’s a, it provides a lot of opportunities. The location I feel like is a pretty
good spot for this. Certainly this type of housing is not something that we have a lot of in the
city. Sometimes that’s good. Sometimes that bad. It tends to be a thing that I notice comes up a
lot in some of our scores or some of the things that we’re, the city is looked upon so certainly
something that has kind of been on my radar to look at and explore options. We talked about a
little bit of affordable housing. Potential when we did the bowling alley project a couple years
ago. This one, the financial commitment for the city is fairly minimal as well, so I think that
provides some benefits. The references, things are good and some of the things that I’ve heard
about the developer and the owner/operator thing I think lend positive on this. I will still state
for the record though that I’m not in favor of the financial assistance or some of those other
things unless these tax credit issues come through. Without the tax credit thing I think as we
spoke to the developers, the market’s not going to be there for them to provide that service there
anyway so certainly not open to giving assistance or other things like that to a market rate
townhouse or apartment. That’s just not something that I can support so I feel like that I’m still
being rushed along a little bit. I understand the deadlines here. The wording in the letter seems
pretty, pretty loose and seems like there’s a lot of out’s there so to speak so, but hopefully I guess
I’m assuming that staff’s gone over this with the developer and they feel like that serves their
purpose. So I guess I’m still a little bit hesitant but comfortable with where we’re at. It seems
like there’s enough space in this letter, if this thing doesn’t happen, and certainly as we spoke on
item 7(a), we’re going to be, pay a lot of attention to this development as a whole. It will be a
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highly visible thing so we need to make sure that it just doesn’t you know, become something
that we regret how it happened. So that’s my comments.
Mayor Furlong: Good, thank you. Other comments.
Councilman Peterson: Keying on what Councilman Lundquist just said, we don’t want to regret.
We certainly don’t want to regret any of our decisions but we’re talking about large building
structures and developments. It’s even more but I agree with the majority of what Councilman
Lundquist statements were. However a couple of things that I differ on. We’ve compared
Presbyterian Homes often tonight and in the last meeting and they are similar. But what
happened in exclusive, not exclusively but essentially in the Presbyterian Homes development,
or before we gave the tax support, we had seen that building design through it’s infancy to it’s
ultimately was the final design, and we could see exactly what we were going to be giving tax
credit for. In this situation we don’t. So we could be signing up for something that we
ultimately don’t like, even though we’ve got a PUD. You just don’t know what you’re signing
up for until you get it done, and that concerns me. That I really want to be able to see what the
plan is before I say I’m going to support it with tax increment financing or any derivation of the
same. So that’s not happening in this situation so that’s a big difference from what we saw in
Presbyterian Homes. I can’t see this. I can’t feel it. And we don’t often use this increment to
make this thing happen and now I’ve got a situation where I don’t really know what’s going to
go in there, and what kind of standards ultimately will be there. Because even within the PUD
we’ve got flexibility. I don’t want that to totally hang our hat on that. So I am concerned that I
really don’t know what it’s going to look like. And ultimately I might say yes. This is a great
idea. I want to support it. But that’s, I would normally think that would come after the building
plans are in front of us for approval.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Other comments?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Mr. Mayor, can I ask…?
Mayor Furlong: Certainly. Absolutely.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Why don’t we have anything in front of us to see what potentially
could be there?
Kate Aanenson: Well 101 has to be relocated. Again they’re trying to tighten down the market.
I think we’re pretty close as far as what we know it’s going to look like. Three stories. 47 units.
48 units. We’ve given them design and they’ve given us other prototypes of their building. It
does have to go through a site plan review so no matter what, even if you chose to give it funding
and you didn’t want to approve the project, that’s your stop gap. You say we’re not going to
approve the site plan, so ultimately you have the control. If it doesn’t meet your PUD standards,
or the modifications thereto, then you wouldn’t approve it. Whether you’ve given them the
affordable or not, but because they have to lock up those dollars at a future date, they have to go
for those today to tie them up. That’s kind of the sequence of timing of when the road will be
relocated and I think that’s what Brian was kind of…
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Councilwoman Tjornhom: So then if I would vote for this and it does not fairly meet Mr.
Peterson’s ideas of what we should be developing, or what my idea should be developing, we do
have an out?
Kate Aanenson: Well I think our idea is to follow the PUD that we just put in place. Now, as
you know there’s different iterations within that PUD but if it meets that in whole, that’s our
guide plan or any modifications thereto. But clearly the goal was to give them some direction on
what our expectations are. As far as design. And again those are the new standards with the
brick. Some percentage of brick and those sort of things. So I think we’re on the, or the staff
believes anyway that we’re on the same page as far as design issues. And again you have to
approve the site plan. Based on the PUD.
Councilman Peterson: But you can’t not approve a site plan based upon the PUD if you follow
the PUD standards, right?
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct.
Mayor Furlong: But I think we have some control or effect on those standards given the
conditions in the PUD.
Kate Aanenson: That’s correct. That’s what you just told me that you want me to look at those
and make sure they’re where they want them to be.
Mayor Furlong: I mean we haven’t seen it, I concur with that. I view this letter as much as a
concept plan or similar to a concept plan that might come forward in a development phase. We
did have some elevations and again concept in nature in the information that was provided by the
developer at our work session at the last meeting so we did have some of that, and I included
their concept in terms of 100% of these 48 units being affordable or lower cost cost kind of, and
the types of units and such like that. So we haven’t seen it from a site plan standpoint but I don’t
view this, I view this letter as support conditioned upon what we’ve seen so far. And if it comes
back different, then our support may be different too. To that point, so other comments.
Councilman Labatt: I don’t disagree with anything. I think the last meeting we beat this around
in the work session and I don’t, I guess I agree with your comments Mayor about, if what comes
to us in the fall, or whenever we may see it, is not what we expect, we still have options present
at that time.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Any other comments? I guess to close up, from what I’ve seen
economically on this and I think Councilman Lundquist alluded to it, is it’s, there’s a lot of
things that have to fall into place for this to move forward and I think the, what the city can do
here is be the catalyst. We did get a short timeframe. I don’t think any of us appreciated that,
but sometimes we try to react as quickly as we have to. And I commend staff for trying to work
with the developer to put something together and I agree with Councilman Lundquist. This letter
is a letter of support but there are conditions on it, and the conditions are that we give back what
we’re, from a concept standpoint, agreeing to. If that changes, if they don’t get their tax credit
financing, and they want to come back for a market rent unit, I don’t think, there’s not going to
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be support there. I wouldn’t support that, but if we can be a catalyst to try to, as a city to help
them attain something else, I think financially the city’s commitment here is probably not going
to make or break the project financially. We do have that condition in there as well. The but for
condition that’s obviously required. But I, in looking at the potential financial components, so
say with the property tax, or the increment relative to the whole size of the project, it’s probably
not going to hinge just on that so I support it. I think these are opportunities and as part of our
strategic initiatives that we as a council talked about earlier this year, we talked about housing
and trying to bring that in and making sure we look for opportunities to do things. I agree with
Councilman Lundquist that it is an opportunity here for us to do some things. It may not be
perfect. There’s work to do but that’s what we always do when we start with concepts and go to
the final and I think that we can support this and write this letter of support with the
understanding that we’re supporting what we’ve seen so far and that’s what we’re trying to do at
this point. And hopefully again be the catalyst to see if we can’t get some additional of these life
cycle housing units in our city.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, City Council members, I’d just like to add a point to this is that you
know history is a factor in this and the Sand Companies history has played out in other
communities and they’ve been flexible in working with those communities and their reputation
and the property that they’ve managed over the years and some of their techniques that they use
is pretty creative. But I think the City of Chanhassen has also been working with the Sand
Companies. I think they understand that. We’ve allowed the zoning for this and worked with
them in the concept stage and looking at providing financial assistance so I think they understand
that this is a partnership and for a successful partnership there’s got to be give and take and I
think we’ve given. It’s now for them to come to the table and show us a product that we would
be proud of on that corner. It’s a gateway. That’s the name of the development and that’s what
we would expect from them.
Councilman Lundquist: Clarification. They have the developer’s received letters of support
already from the county and school district, is that right?
Todd Gerhardt: I’d have them respond. I believe it was from a couple of religious organizations
and a couple of businesses.
Developer: And the County.
Councilman Lundquist: And the County, okay.
Todd Gerhardt: And the County.
Mayor Furlong: Any other discussion? If not, is there a motion?
Councilman Lundquist: Move approval.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Second.
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Mayor Furlong: Made and seconded. Any discussion on the motion?
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded that the City Council
approve the attached letter of support for the Sand Companies tax credit application with
the Minnesota Housing Finance Agency. All voted in favor, except Councilman Peterson
who opposed and the motion carried with a vote of 4 to 1.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS:
Mayor Furlong: Are there any presentations from council members this evening? One item I’d
like to mention, and probably stealing Mr. Gerhardt’s thunder or Mr. Hoffman, and that is the
Music in the Park, the first event was a week ago last Thursday I believe, and was a really good
start to what’s going to be a great program. I can see us and viewing that as an opportunity to
expand the number of events and I’m sure that’s something we can fund through some
sponsorships as well. Making use of that. Of that park as a gathering place and really as a place
for people to come together and that’s what it was. I had the chance to stop by and it’s just
walking up there and with music and walking around and saying hi to people that you haven’t
seen for maybe a week or two, or maybe over the winter time so it was a great event and
commend the park and rec department for following through on that idea and something that we
can build upon.
Todd Gerhardt: Just add to that. We probably had approximately 100 people attend the event
and the Mayor’s proclamation on a sunny, beautiful day was right on the numbers right there too,
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so if you can duplicate that for the 3 and 4, that’d be great.
Mayor Furlong: Tell me where to sign.
Todd Gerhardt: I don’t have anything else to add tonight but like to continue our work session.
Still had a couple items left on that to finish up.
Mayor Furlong: And we will do that following adjournment of this meeting. Thank you.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS:
None.
CORRESPONDENCE DISCUSSION.
Councilman Lundquist: A question for staff. Maybe for Todd. Farmers market. How are we
looking now that we’re more into the summer and some of those things? How’s the farmers
market looking?
Todd Hoffman: Can’t tell. To be quite honest I’ve not been present so has anybody been down
to the farmers market?
Todd Gerhardt: I know they’ve only been open for about 2 weeks. They had a late start with the
wet spring. So I believe it’s been 2-3 weeks that they’ve been operational. I’ve seen the signs
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up but haven’t gotten any numbers. What we can do is provide you a written update in the next
correspondence packet.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any other questions for staff? No? Okay. If not, if there’s
nothing else to come before the council this evening, is there a motion to adjourn.
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to adjourn the meeting. All
voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. The City Council meeting was
adjourned at 8:35 p.m..
Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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