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CHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
OCTOBER 14, 2019
Mayor Ryan called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. The meeting was opened with the Pledge to
the Flag.
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Ryan, Councilwoman Tjornhom, and Councilman
Campion
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: Councilman McDonald and Councilwoman Coleman
STAFF PRESENT: Todd Gerhardt, Jake Foster, Kate Aanenson, George Bender, Bruce Loney,
and Roger Knutson
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Annette & Charles Buenger 520 Bighorn Drive
Mack Titus 2747 Century Trail
Mary & Gary Halama 670 Creekwood Drive
Nicole Nejezchleba 4150 Red Oak Lane
Mayor Ryan: Again good evening everybody and welcome to our council meeting. To those of
you that are watching at home or livestreaming from the Chanhassen website, thank you for
joining us. My apologies for the tardiness of starting this meeting. We, a lot of people say tis
the season for other reasons. Tis the season for budget season for us so we have a, we had a
lengthy conversation in the work session so I apologize for our tardiness for everybody here in
chambers as well as those of you that are at home. For the record we have two council members
absent tonight. Councilman McDonald and Councilwoman Coleman. Both on excused
absences. Congratulations to Councilwoman Coleman for, and her husband Jake for the addition
of their new baby boy. Mom and baby are both doing well and are healthy so congratulations to
them. Our first action is our agenda approval. Council members are there any modifications to
the agenda as printed.
Councilman Campion: I have a modification correction.
Mayor Ryan: Councilman Campion.
Councilman Campion: I would like to move under public hearings item G-2 to New Business as
H-1 as that’s a call for a public hearing and not a public hearing.
Mayor Ryan: Okay so G-2 becomes New Business number 1.
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Todd Gerhardt: Correct. Under H.
Mayor Ryan: Do we need to approve that? Take a motion to approve the new agenda then?
Roger Knutson: Sure.
Mayor Ryan: Okay. Could I get a motion to approve the new agenda by moving public hearing
or G-2 to New Business H-1?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: So moved.
Mayor Ryan: Is there a second?
Councilman Campion: Second.
Councilwoman Tjornhom moved, Councilman Campion seconded to move item G-2 under
Public Hearings to H-1 under New Business. All voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously with a vote of 3 to 0.
PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS:
INVITATION TO HALLOWEEN PARTY, OCTOBER 26, 2019.
Mayor Ryan: The City of Chanhassen with the support of our local community event sponsors is
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proud to announce the fourth and final community event of 2019 and it’s our 35 Annual
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Halloween Party. So please join us on Saturday, October 26 for an evening of fun. Children 13
and under are invited to participate in a wide variety of activities including Trick or Treating, a
live performance from Brian Richards. This is a tongue twister too. Brian Richards Spooky Not
Scary Magic Show. Games, hayrides and much, much more. I invite all of the area residents,
their families and friends to join me at the Chanhassen Recreation Center from 5:30 to 7:30. Pre-
registration deadline is Friday, October 25th either at City Hall or the Chanhassen Rec Center.
The fee is $5 per child. Adults are free and covers all activities. And we encourage the kids to
wear their costumes and the adults will be in their costumes and it will be a great event. Another
great event.
INVITATION TO COMMUNITY CLEAN UP FOR WATER QUALITY EVENT,
SATURDAY, OCTTOBER 26.
Mayor Ryan: The next one is an invitation to the Community Clean Up for Water Quality event.
The Chanhassen City Council invites all residents and service groups to volunteer on Saturday,
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October 26 to help clean up for water quality. Volunteers will work with master water stewards
from the Riley-Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District to rake, sweep or shovel leaves, dirt
and debris from curbs and streets as designated, in designated locations throughout the city. This
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organic material is a major source of water pollution that causes excessive algae growth and
depletes oxygen needed for our fish and native plants. Impervious surface such as city streets
provide a pathway for phosphorous to get to local lakes. Volunteers are asked to register on the
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City’s website. The clean up will take place from 9:30 a.m. until noon on Saturday, October 26
so please visit Chanhassen website for more information and to register. It’s time to clean up for
water quality. We hope we get a lot of volunteers at that event.
CONSENT AGENDA: Councilman Campion moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded
to approve the following consent agenda items pursuant to the City Manager’s
recommendations:
1. Approve City Council Minutes dated September 23, 2019
2. Receive Planning Commission Minutes dated September 17, 2019
3. Receive Senior Commission Minutes dated August 16, 2019
4. Resolution #2019-46: Approval of Apply For and Execute Grant Agreement with the
Metropolitan Council Environmental Services (MCES)
5. Resolution #2019-47: Designate No Parking for CSAH 101 from Pioneer Trail to
Flying Cloud Drive
6. Resolution #2019-48: Approve Contract for Building Demolition and Site Restoration
Associated with CSAH 101 Project
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 3 to 0.
VISITOR PRESENTATIONS. ANNETTE BUENGER CITIZEN ACTION REQUEST.
Mayor Ryan: I know we have one scheduled visitor presentation so I welcome you to begin and
please come to the podium and state your name and address.
Annette Buenger: Thank you. I’ve got handouts that I can give you outlining some things that
have already been done and I’ve got a jump drive with photographs on it.
Mayor Ryan: Perfect. Could you state your name and address for the record too please.
Annette Buenger: My name is Annette Buenger at 520 Bighorn Drive, Chanhassen.
Mayor Ryan: Great thank you. Welcome go ahead. Do you want?
Annette Buenger: Jump drive.
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Mayor Ryan: Sure.
Annette Buenger: And the handouts.
Mayor Ryan: You can pass the handouts to Ms. Aanenson. I don’t know Jake can you put the
jump drive in?
Annette Buenger: I’m here to talk about my neighbor’s property at 510 Bighorn Drive that’s
been in a clear dilapidated state for all the years that they’ve lived there. They moved in July of
2011 and it’s pretty much gone downhill ever since and they, he starts projects. Gets them
partially done. Never completes them. At this time he’s got a lot of weeds and brush and
volunteer trees growing along the entire perimeter of the property so what’s been done so far is
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that CSO Office Joe LeFevere sent a letter to the property owner on the 18 of September citing
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that he had until October 1 to clean up the property which he did not do. Also at the same time
Eric Tessman sent a letter citing a number of building code violations that have gotten out of
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hand and he had October 4 to complete those. That was not done either. Mayor Ryan and
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Todd Gerhardt did come out and meet me on the 2 of October and I showed them around the
properties. What I was referring to because it seemed like the photographs that I had sent to
Jake, I think I sent them to Jake. No I sent them to Eric Tessman and to Joe LeFevere and they
weren’t quite getting it so thank you Mayor for coming out and letting me show you what was
going on. Another letter was sent by Eric Tessman giving the property owner 2 more weeks to
comply with the building code violations that were undone around with a few more that Todd
Gerhardt had found when he was out visiting with Mayor Ryan. So with that I want to go ahead
with the photographs and I’ll just run through them. What they all are. I did list them on the
sheet of paper.
Mayor Ryan: Oh it’s back. It’s on our screens.
Annette Buenger: You’ve got it but I can’t see it? Okay.
Kate Aanenson: You can use this.
Annette Buenger: Okay. The first photograph will show where the owner built this portico and
you can see some wires hanging out. That’s where some lighting is supposed to go. That’s a
violation. The next photograph that is an 18 foot tall tree that’s growing within inches of the
foundation of their garage between his property and mine. There’s probably about 15 feet
between our two homes. Very close to us. Okay third item. This is a photograph of their deck
that has no railing or stairs. He removed this about this time last fall. That’s a building
violation. Let’s see the next photograph is the overgrown brush and 3 foot tall weeds that are in
the back yard. That’s another photograph of the deck and you know more weeds in the
foreground. This is a photograph of the broken gutters and weeds growing in their, on the house
in the back yard. This is another photograph of more weeds in our backyard and those things
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that he’s got under the tarps have been there 8 years. This is a photograph of again the deck, no
railing and you can see the gutter is hanging with weeds growing out of it. This is in the back
yard right between our two properties. A lot of brush and weeds and volunteer trees growing
between the properties. This is a tree growing within inches of the foundation of their garage.
This is right behind their garage where the retaining wall is rotting and because there’s no gutter
it just runs down from the roof. It’s washed out this area that he filled in. This again is on the
west side of the house up to their garage. This is all the weeds and excess growth that’s growing.
This is a photograph of the east side of their house. He stucco over his lap siding. Never did put
the second color coat on. Up there near the peak there’s a, where you see the orange there’s
supposed to be a vent cover there. That’s missing and the chimney that’s in the lower right hand
corner, that’s an improper vent. This is volunteer tree growth inbetween their pine trees on the
front of their property. This one is a photograph of their unfinished valley and missing shingles
on the front side of their house to the left of their portico. I think the right side of the portico is
similar and then if you look up above he’s got no finishing on the trim. And the last photograph
is a picture of his broken up driveway. So that’s what I’ve got for photographs. I do thank
Mayor Ryan for coming out and moving this forward. At first I was getting a little push back. I
guess they didn’t believe me or didn’t see what I was seeing so Mayor Ryan was able to get this
moving forward. What I would ask the City Council to do is please get behind the Mayor and
support getting this property cleaned up once and for all because it is devaluating about 9
properties in the large cul-de-sac. The other thing that I would like is to be kept in the loop of
the letters that go out to Masood Sajady, the property owner. I did not get a letter about moving
forward to clean up the brush and the volunteer trees so I don’t know what his deadline is. So
that’s about it.
Mayor Ryan: Perfect, thank you. A couple questions. And one is for Mr. Knutson. What in
terms of privacy is there when we mail letters to residents? Is there any confidentiality? Are we
allowed to then share that with other neighbors what we’ve asked a resident to do?
Roger Knutson: Mayor, members of the council. Any person complaining about the condition
of real property, the name of that person is confidential and cannot be released by the City.
Mayor Ryan: And so the letters that we sent to this resident who has to fix these violations can
we disclose the communication between the City and that person?
Roger Knutson: Yes as long as you don’t disclose who is complaining.
Mayor Ryan: As long as we don’t disclose who, okay perfect. Thank you for that clarification.
Roger Knutson: Under this circumstance it probably is no secret. Under the Government Data
Practices Act the name of the complainant.
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Mayor Ryan: Okay that’s good information to know. Thank you. And Mr. Gerhardt is there
any update that you can provide today that we haven’t shared already or do you know any
deadlines off the top of your head?
Todd Gerhardt: Not off the top of my head. The complainant has submitted a letter to the City
stating that he’s out of the country and is asking for an extension and some personal things that
he’s going through but we still stand by our letters.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
Todd Gerhardt: And so.
Annette Buenger: And has there been a decision made about whether he will be responsible for
cutting down the dead maple tree in the back yard?
Mayor Ryan: The one that overhangs by your garage?
Annette Buenger: No that’s an ash tree and we understand that. It’s still alive. It’s not
something the City can handle.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
Annette Buenger: It’s the dead tree, the maple tree in the back yard.
Todd Gerhardt: I’m not sure if that was on our list but we talked about a variety of volunteer
trees on the property.
Annette Buenger: Right. Right.
Todd Gerhardt: But if we missed the dead maple tree we’ll send another letter with that.
Annette Buenger: Okay, good enough.
Mayor Ryan: Ms. Aanenson.
Kate Aanenson: We just received a letter at the end of the day from the property owner so we
haven’t had a chance to address that because he’s out of the country.
Todd Gerhardt: I said that.
Kate Aanenson: Okay I know but timelines aren’t going to match up so you know.
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Mayor Ryan: So we just, to clarify apparently we just got a letter from this resident at the end of
the day. Staff has to review in what context that’s been received and what he’s asking.
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Ryan: As soon as they get an opportunity I guess it came right before we met as council
and staff we meet at 5:30 so I don’t think they’ve had a chance to review it. This is the first time
hearing of it so as well. It was right before coming in here so as soon as they get a chance to
review it and discuss it and come up with a plan going forward we’ll be in touch with you to let
you know. To keep you involved.
Annette Buenger: Alright thank you very much.
Mayor Ryan: Okay thank you. Thanks for coming. Appreciate it. Are there any other visitor
presentations this evening? Okay.
APPROVE CONTRACT AMENDMENT WITH KIMLEY-HORN FOR ENGINEERING
SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CSAH 101 PROJECT FROM PIONEER TRAIL
TO FLYING CLOUD DRIVE.
Mayor Ryan: Who’s going to take the lead on this?
Jon Horn: Good evening Mayor, members of the City Council. My name is Jon Horn with
Kimley-Horn and Associates. I’m handling the next two items tonight on our agenda. The first
item being the approval of a contract amendment for our work associated with the Highway 101
improvement project. So the Highway 101 improvement project is a project we’ve been working
on for about the last 12 months with city staff alongside Carver County and MnDOT. As the
project has evolved over time there’s been a number of items that have come up and the City and
County had requested some additional design work so I’ll just quickly run through those items.
And a number of these items we’ll touch on a little bit more as a part of the next item on the
agenda as well. So the first one is an automatic anti-icing system on 101 down the bluff. That is
something because of safety issues and concerns that got incorporated into the project. Second
item was an additional pedestrian bridge along Flying Cloud Drive to try to clean up some trail
alignments and make for safer trail design along Flying Cloud Drive. A lot of tree removals
were required as a part of the project and discussions how best to mitigate that. We did come up
with a reforestation plan so that was an added design item. And then the incorporation of city
trunk water and sanitary sewer improvements as a part of the project. There was some additional
design analysis that city staff requested for that. There is an existing or there’s a proposed
pedestrian crossing at Creekwood Drive at 101 and in conversations with county staff the desire
has been to put a pedestrian actuated traffic signal at that location to make that crossing safer so
that was added into the project. A lot of discussions with property owners and some additional
engineering work that happened as a part of that. And then some additional traffic analysis to
look at the roundabout at Flying Cloud Drive and how best to accommodate the fourth leg on
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that roundabout design. So all those items in total are about $118,000 of additional services of
which Carver County would pay a majority. $110,500 which are all eligible as a part of the
turnback project. The $7,500 being the City of the City of Chanhassen’s component for the
sanitary sewer and watermain design. I guess with that I’ll stand for questions.
Mayor Ryan: Perfect thank you. Council any questions? Mr. Campion. No? I have one
question. It’s not challenging or anything. I was surprised, what is the bridge? The added
bridge. Was that the original bridge that we’re talking about further down the.
Jon Horn: So today there’s a pedestrian trail that runs along Flying Cloud Drive, right along the
north side of the roadway and that is going to get tied into the new trail system that’s being built
as a part of Highway 101. The challenge was the trail that’s out there today is right up adjacent
to Flying Cloud Drive so there’s some concerns about the safety of that and then trying to get the
grades of the trail on Flying Cloud Drive to tie into the underpass under 101 the design became
very difficult to make that work so what was proposed instead is the trail along Flying Cloud
Drive is actually going to get separated. Pushed further to the north away from Flying Cloud
Drive to provide better separation between cars and bikes and pedestrians and then as a result of
that there’ll be an additional pedestrian bridge that will go over Bluff Creek just north of Flying
Cloud Drive.
Mayor Ryan: And is that in addition to, am I thinking?
Jon Horn: Yeah it’s another bridge.
Mayor Ryan: It is another bridge? Okay.
Jon Horn: So.
Mayor Ryan: Okay wow. That’s why I was surprised that there was actually another bridge.
And then I know that there was a lot of talk and concern, I remember when you came to many
work sessions to talk about this project was the concern of the pedestrian movement at
Creekwood so it’s been proposed and accepted to do a signal. Is there going to be like a safety
zone in the middle or what is going to look like?
Jon Horn: So it will be basically identified as a pedestrian crossing. It will have an overhead
mast arm so a pedestrian or bicyclist will be able to push the button. Traffic signal will come on
to tell people to stop and then they can more safely cross. Carver County’s got some procedures
in place where they evaluate crossings and decide what the appropriate type of control is and this
is what came out of the process. So it would actually be a push button actuated traffic signal that
would stop vehicles for pedestrians to be able to cross.
Mayor Ryan: Oh okay. And will there be a landing zone in the middle or?
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Jon Horn: There will be. As a part of the design there’s a center median in that area so as a part
of the design that center median was actually built wider to be able to accommodate a refuge
area in the middle so there will basically be pedestrians on each side of the roadway as well as a
refuge area in the center median.
Mayor Ryan: That’s great. That’s a great addition. I’m excited about that because I know that
there was concern about some of the visibility coming up and down and at that point for crossing
so I’m, glad that they did that. Council if no further questions I could stand for a motion.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: I’ll make a motion.
Mayor Ryan: Councilwoman Tjornhom.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: I’d like to make a motion that the City Council approves the
amendment to the consulting engineering contract for design and construction of services with
Kimley-Horn and Associates in the amount of $118,000.
Mayor Ryan: With a valid motion is there a second?
Councilman Campion: Second.
Councilwoman Tjornhom moved, Councilman Campion seconded that the City Council
approves an amendment to the consulting engineering contract for design and construction
services with Kimley-Horn and Associates in the amount of $118,000. All voted in favor
and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 3 to 0.
Mayor Ryan: That motion carries 3-0. Go ahead number two, the next one.
APPROVE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS AND AUTHORIZE ADVERTISEMENT
FOR BIDS FOR CSAH 101 FROM PIONEER TRAIL TO FLYING CLOUD DRIVE.
Jon Horn: Next item is to approve the plans and specifications for the Highway 101 project from
Pioneer Trail to Flying Cloud Drive. It requires a simple majority of the members present. I do
have a brief power point presentation which I understand it won’t show up on the TV but you
guys will all see it. So I’ll just quickly walk through that.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
Jon Horn: Just some project background. I know you’ve seen this project before but I just
thought it’d be good to summarize prior to making the motion to approve the plans and specs so
it’s a little over a mile long corridor. Existing two lane rural section of no sidewalks or trail
facilities. It was originally a MnDOT roadway. Since has been turned back to Carver County.
Certainly a number of improvements are needed to address safety and operation concerns along
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the corridor. There’s steep grades. Tough topography. Erosion concerns. Poor sight distances.
Limited right-of-way. Need to plan for future city utilities and then just to plan for future traffic
growth along the corridor. So there’s a 2007 corridor study that was done. We almost have it.
There’s a corridor study that was done in 2007 to really plan for the entire 101 corridor and a
number of things have since been implemented so the section of 101 between Lyman and
Pioneer Trail, there it is. Was reconstructed in 2013 and 2014. The segment south of Flying
Cloud Drive, new Minnesota River bridge was built in 2015. The preliminary design for this
segment was done in 2015 so really this is the last element of this corridor study to complete a
four lane roadway connection between the Minnesota River bridge crossing and Highway 212. I
did want to mention the partnership that was required for all this to happen. It’s been really fun
to work alongside the City, County and MnDOT. Without the participation of all three agencies
this project certainly wouldn’t have been successful and I think it’s a great example of the power
of partnerships when 3 agencies work together to be able to deliver a project. So roadway and
drainage improvements, this graph shows the proposed design so Pioneer Trail on the right side
of the graphic and Flying Cloud Drive on the left. Four lane divided roadway design from end to
end. The big blue area shows the stormwater treatment facilities that are proposed to be built as
a part of the project. Going from a rural section design to an urban design of storm sewer
necessitated storm sewer facilities, stormwater facilities so those have been incorporated into the
project. An important element of this project just because of the erosion concerns and the bluffs
that the storm sewer and the ponding will be an important element to being able to address some
of those concerns. I mentioned the pedestrian and bicycle facilities an important element of this
project. So over 2 miles of new trails will be built as a part of the project. There is the area in
the middle at Creekwood, because of the challenges going down the bluff the trail is not
extended down the west side of 101 but there will be a pedestrian crossing signal at this location
to help facilitate this maneuver. And we are going to have a new pedestrian bridge crossing, the
regional trail bridge crossing at this location over 101 and the other new trail bridge that we just
got done talking about is right down here off of Flying Cloud Drive. Allowed this trail along
Flying Cloud Drive to be pulled away from the roadway. Otherwise today it runs right along
side the edge of the roadway. And then there’s also an underpass included as a part of the
project so over 2 miles of new trails. Two pedestrian bridges and an underpass which really go a
long ways towards making for safer pedestrian and bicycle traffic in the area. Public utilities
have been an important part of the conversation for this project. A lot of desire from people in
the area to have public utility services so this project will extend watermain all the way down the
west side of the road. It will be a live watermain. Water will be available to the residents of the
corridor once the project is completed so there’s existing watermain today that stops at Pioneer
Trail. This project will take it all the way down to Flying Cloud Drive. For sanitary sewer it
includes a number of elements to basically plan for future sanitary sewer service. Ultimately a
lift station will be required to provide for service down at this location and then that investment
would also require some additional sanitary sewer that would need to run through the golf course
or along Pioneer Trail ultimately to be serviceable so it’s providing the guts of some of the
important elements that are necessary just because it will be very difficult to build those facilities
later once the roadway is done but it will not allow for a functional sanitary sewer system when
this project is done. There’s going to be future investments that will be necessary to allow that to
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happen. A special design considerations so some of the important things that were added based
upon some of the feedback we received during the design process. I mentioned the pedestrian
crossing signal at Creekwood Drive. Reforestation. A lot of tree removals will happen as a part
of the project but just to give you some sense of the investment back in. Over 1,300 new trees
will be installed as a part of the project as well as over 500 shrubs so obviously this project will
have some big impacts just due to the nature of the project area but a significant investment on
behalf of the City and the County to try to address that and to put a bunch of new trees and
shrubs into the project corridor. And then going down the bluff a lot of discussions about how
best to improve safety going down the bluff. There will actually be a raised median down the
center of Highway 101 from Creekwood to the south to be able to prevent head on crashes and
things like that. And the other thing that has been designed and we hope to be able to do as a
part of the project will be included as a part of a bid alternate if we have money is there’s
actually an automated deicing system that would happen that would keep the County from
having to have trucks go out and use the deicing chemicals manually. There’s actually an
automated system. Almost like a sprinkler system where it would actually spray the roadway
down when necessary. There will be sensors in the pavement to detect when that’s necessary so
it will be a really cool element to the project for both environmental impact issues as well as
safety. Cross our fingers and hope we have enough money to be able to do as a part of the
project so we hope for good bids.
Councilman Campion: And that’s the same or similar to what’s on the 35W bridge?
Jon Horn: Yeah so there’s like a dozen places around the metro area where this is in place. One
of them is in the 35W bridge over the Mississippi River. Another close by location is the City of
Bloomington. They’ve got an entrance ramp on an interchange they just built that’s got a similar
technology. Public engagement has been an important part of this project. So we’ve had two
open house meetings. One back in December of 2018 and one in August of 2019. We intend to
have another one in February prior to construction start just to continue to keep people engaged.
I’ve gotten pretty good turnout. 30 to 40 people at most of our open house meetings so, and
we’ve had good engagement throughout the process. In addition a number of one on one
property owner meetings to both work through design issues as well as right-of-way acquisition
and I’ll touch on right-of-way acquisition here in a minute but property owner meetings and
coordination of right-of-way will be an important part of the project moving forward. Generally
people support the project. Understand the need to address the safety issues along the corridor
but then you know they do have some questions and concerns that we’ve worked through.
Timing for city utilities. A lot of desire to have city utility service in the area which watermain
will be available. Sanitary sewer will not. Discussions on how best to phase the project to limit
their impacts. It’s going to be a challenging project to build just due to the nature of the
earthwork and the size of the project. And I’ve got a graphic here in a minute I’ll talk a little bit
more about the constructing phasing staging. And then some concerns about berming, screening.
What can you do to lessen the impact to my property so some conversations about that as well.
Right-of-way easement acquisition. So this graph and color shows all the various right-of-way
and easement acquisition that’s necessary. Six total property acquisitions have been completed
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to date. Another 16 property owners are currently in some process of appraisals have been done.
A majority of the offers have been extended and really over the next 4 to 5 months it’s going to
be very, very important to work through the acquisition process so we’ve made a lot of progress
but we have a lot more progress that needs to be done.
Mayor Ryan: Did you say 16?
Jon Horn: 16 more yep.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
Jon Horn: And because of this process and the investment in it the intention is to come back to
council at a later date and give you an update on all things right-of-way but it is really the next
important part of this process. A lot of property owners to work through and to get the
acquisition completed. Constructing phasing staging. Big project. It’s intended to be a two year
project. So the first phase which would happen in 2020 would be the southerly portion from
Creekwood down to Flying Cloud Drive so everything in purple or blue on this graphic. So
basically tree removal would happen starting in March of 2020. The first thing would happen
and then after that a number of improvements would happen prior to the roadway being closed
down. We can’t close the roadway down until the Flying Cloud Drive work is completed which
is intended to happen in the June timeframe of next year. Once Flying Cloud Drive is done the
southerly leg of 101 between Creekwood and Flying Cloud will be closed to through traffic and
all the access for the people on Creekwood and to the north will come from the north off of
Pioneer Trail. No access will be provided from the south so that’s basically year number one.
Everything in blue or purple would get completed. During the winter months no construction
would happen. First phase would tie in the existing roadway to the north and then once we get
through the winter season of 2021 access for the Creekwood folks would go to the south to
Flying Cloud Drive and the piece to the north would get constructed. It would need to get
constructed in two halves just because we have a number of residents living in the Bramble
Drive area we need to provide access for as well so really two full years of construction with the
first year focused on the southern part of the corridor. Second year focused on the northern part
of the corridor. Project costs and financing. This has been tracking pretty consistent since we
started the process a little under $32 million for the total project cost. A majority being funded
by the State of Minnesota. A little over $28 million dollars. City funds are related to the utility
construction. Sanitary sewer and water of about $2 million and then County funds for some of
their investments of about $1.3 and as I said these numbers are pretty consistent throughout the
process. We hope to get good bids in and as I said be able to do that automated deicing system
as a part of the project. Schedule. So tonight we’re asking council to approve plans and specs
which would allow us to go to bidding in November and December. Size of the project we’re
trying to maximize the bidding environment and do it at a time when we’re early enough in the
season that we’re trying to encourage the best bids we can get so we’re hoping to do that in the
month of December. We would be back to the council in January asking you to award a
contract. I mentioned the right-of-way and easement acquisition that is ongoing. We hope to
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have that process completed in February. Mentioned the open house meeting and that would
happen in February as well. Allow us to proceed to construction starting in March of 2020.
Construction basically then occurring until November-December timeframe. No construction
over the winter months and then starting up again in the spring with the goal of having
everything wrapped up by October of 2021. Another item that the council acted on tonight as a
part of the consent agenda was some initial building demolition so there are 6 existing homes in
the project area but the desire was to try to get some of that building demolition taken care of this
winter so that will be ongoing starting here in the next probably month with the goal of having
that done in January of 2020. And we did put together a project visualization video. I thought
this might be helpful just to kind of run through this just to show you what the project will look
like when we’re done and I’ll maybe point out some of the key things as we go through the
video. So this is basically starting, driving south starting at Pioneer Trail. You can see it’s a four
lane divided roadway. Trails on either side with a divided median down the middle. And then
this we’re starting to approach the Bramble Drive area with the Mustard Seed there to the right.
Full access intersection at that location. That’s the stormwater facility as we mentioned. They’ll
be dry basins infiltration but they’ll be landscaped. And then continuing the trails on both sides
through this area. We do have some reforestation that’s going to occur in that area. In that
ravine area that we’re going to address some ravine issues and erosion issues in that area. This is
Creekwood Drive so at this location the trails will go away on two sides and be on one side.
Shows the pedestrian crossing that will have the signal lights at that location. And then at
Creekwood is where we really start going down the bluff. You can see that kind of dark box in
the center median is where that center median barrier would start to happen to be able to prevent
the head on accidents going down the bluff. The lighter trees on either side show the
reforestation that would occur so a lot of tree plantings in these areas as we go down the bluff.
More reforestation. More areas that would be impacted by grading. And then this is the bridge
that would occur for the regional trail crossing. And then as we approach the roundabout at
Flying Cloud Drive the stormwater areas again. The building there that shows up would be the
building that would be installed as a part of the deicing system. The pedestrian bridge just
missed it. The additional pedestrian bridge along Flying Cloud Drive shows up and then that
would be the underpass that would happen under Highway 101. Hopefully gives you some
better sense of what things would look like.
Mayor Ryan: Have you been able to show this at any of the open houses or is it too new?
Jon Horn: We did. Actually at the last open house we had a big TV monitor set up in the library
and had it on a continuous loop so people could view it and understand the project a little bit
better. It’s a little bit better than viewing things on a flat surface and drawings. Hopefully it was
helpful a little bit to allow people to visualize the project.
Mayor Ryan: Absolutely.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, council it’s also available on our website. If you go under projects and
go under the 101 project, the video is on there.
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Mayor Ryan: Great. Council any questions or comments at this time?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: No.
Mayor Ryan: No? I have a couple. In terms of the, now if I can read my notes. You talked
about that you might start some of the building demolition. Does that, of the houses along there.
Does that impact traffic or how, how does that work since it’s so close to the road?
Jon Horn: Yeah so there’s 6 dwellings that we will be addressing as a part of the building
demolition package. Four of them are on Vogelsberg Trail and they’re basically the only four
buildings on Vogelsberg Trail so the intention is Vogelsberg Trail could be closed. One of the
interesting wrinkles in that is two of the property owners had asked for permission to be able to
move their buildings. So actually two of those dwellings are intended to be picked up and
moved which certainly from an issue of you know how does that happen? There will have to be
a traffic control plan for when those buildings are moved.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
Jon Horn: So two of them are going to be removed. The other two will be demolished. Should
have much of an impact on 101 during the demolition work because it will be off the roadway.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
Jon Horn: The other two are the Milikowski property and the Carty property so again they’re off
101. So other than some truck traffic hauling away demolition debris there really won’t be any
impact on 101 so it’s primarily truck traffic will be the issue.
Mayor Ryan: Okay perfect. And then at, you said that there’s 16 more acquisitions that need to
take place. Is that included as part of the bid? The estimation or how?
Jon Horn: As a part of the overall project costs that includes both construction costs, engineering
admin costs as well as right-of-way acquisition.
Mayor Ryan: Okay so that’s already included with that.
Jon Horn: Correct.
Mayor Ryan: And then my last question I know you said that you’re looking to do another open
house. Maybe February you said. At that point so you’re, you know let’s say you’ve received
the bids and this is you know the council approves the plans and you go out for bid. What
opportunity then at those meetings do residents have to make any changes or is it pretty much set
in stone and you’re just providing an update just for clarification?
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Jon Horn: Yeah probably the biggest thing that we want to try to accomplish as a part of that
February open house is just to give people more detailed information on construction phasing,
staging and how the construction’s going to happen.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
Jon Horn: You know because we can lay out the general intent of how we want the construction
to occur but then once we get a contractor on board and understand their approach a little bit
better it would be to be able to share that information in detail because when you start thinking
about it once we start impacting traffic. So it’s buses and garbage trucks and emergency vehicle
access. How people get in and out of their property. Is there special events along the corridor
that we, I mean is somebody having a wedding. Is there something happening that we need to be
aware of. That’s really when we want to get into the details of how the project is going to
happen and if there’s any special circumstances to be able to get input on that.
Mayor Ryan: Perfect.
Jon Horn: Just feel like it’s really important to give the residents a chance to know more about
the details about the project before trucks start running up and down the corridor.
Mayor Ryan: Okay great, thank you. And then last and then I’ll open, or ask for a motion. I
just, I want to thank you and all your hard work as well as our city staff. You’re still here.
We’ve already gone through two but city engineers but you know really appreciate all the work
and you know time and effort on behalf of city staff and your’s and like you had mentioned at
the very beginning of your presentation how, what a great opportunity for the State and the
County and City to work together but appreciate your leadership. I know you’ve been you know
very diligent in bringing this information back to council and we’ve seen it over the course of the
last many years as it’s progressed and you’ve always asked for input from all of us as you’ve
moved through the process so I just want to acknowledge that and let you know how much you
know we appreciate it. I think it’s going to be a great, you know a great project assuming things
move forward for the region as a whole. Just from a commuter standpoint. Not only traffic but
by what you’re doing with the bridges and the trails. I know that there’s a lot of bike commuter
traffic as well that goes north to south and so to be able to take advantage of that I think the
project overall is very well constructed and done and planned out so just want to acknowledge
that and let you know how much we appreciate it.
Jon Horn: Thank you.
Mayor Ryan: With that council any motion?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Yeah go ahead.
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Councilman Campion: I’ll make a motion.
Mayor Ryan: Councilman Campion.
Councilman Campion: I make a motion that the City Council approves plans and specifications
and authorizes advertisement of bids for the CSAH 101 project from Pioneer Trail to Flying
Cloud Drive.
Mayor Ryan: We have a valid motion. Is there a second?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Second.
Resolution #2019-49: Councilman Campion moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded
that the City Council approves plans and specifications and authorizes advertisement of
bids for the CSAH 101 project from Pioneer Trail to Flying Cloud Drive. All voted in
favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 3 to 0.
Mayor Ryan: That motion carries 3-0. Great, thank you.
Jon Horn: Thank you.
PUBLIC HEARING: APPROVAL OF ON-SALE BEER AND WINE LICENSE FOR
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JIMMIE’S OLD SOUTHERN BBBQ SMOKEHOUSE, 530 WEST 79 STREET, SUITE
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Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, City Council exactly. This is an on-sale beer and wine license for
Jimmy’s Old Southern BBQ Smokehouse. This is Famous Dave’s new venture into the
barbeque world and they’ve selected Chanhassen as one of I think 4 locations in Minnesota and
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they’re going to be in the old Cheer’s off-sale liquor location off of West 79 Street. Staff has
done a background check on all the managers and that background check has come through with
a clear bill of health and staff is recommending approval of the liquor license.
Mayor Ryan: Perfect. Thank you Mr. Gerhardt. Is the applicant here?
Todd Gerhardt: I do not see the applicant.
Mayor Ryan: Okay. Any questions of the council before I open the public hearing? Okay I
hereby open the public hearing. Please step forward and state your name and address for the
record. With nobody here I will close the public hearing and bring it back to council for
questions, comments or action.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor and council I have been at Jimmie’s barbeque in Hudson and I think it’s
another great addition to our retail development here in Chanhassen. It’s another kind of fast
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casual type. You go to the counter. You order what menu items you want. I think they over 60
selections you can choose from and so I know the group I was with enjoyed their meal and I
think it’s going to be a great addition.
Mayor Ryan: Great, well we look forward to another new restaurant in Chanhassen so that will
be great. Council any motion?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: I’ll make a motion.
Mayor Ryan: Councilwoman Tjornhom.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Is it my turn?
Mayor Ryan: I think it’s your turn.
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Alright I’d like to make a motion that the City Council approves a
request for an on-sale beer and wine license from Jimmie’s Old Southern BBQ Smokehouse
LLC, dba Jimmie’s Old Southern BBQ Smokehouse contingent upon receipt of liquor liability
insurance and all of the necessary paperwork associated with the application.
Mayor Ryan: There’s a valid motion. Do we have a second?
Councilman Campion: Second.
Councilwoman Tjornhom moved, Councilman Campion seconded that the City Council
approves a request for an on-sale beer and wine license from Jimmie’s Old Southern BBQ
Smokehouse LLC, dba Jimmie’s Old Southern BBQ Smokehouse contingent upon receipt
of liquor liability insurance and all of the necessary paperwork associated with the
application. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 3 to 0.
PUBLIC HEARING: MINNEWASHTA PARKWAY REHABILITATION PROJECT
NO. 20-02: ACCEPT FEASIBILITY STUDY; CALL PUBLIC HEARING.
George Bender: Good evening Mayor and council members. I’m here to present the accepting
of the feasibility study and ordering plans and specifications and calling of a public hearing for
the Minnewashta Parkway rehabilitation project. One thing that I wanted to review to start is
that this project has evolved significantly since you know it was ordered to hire a consultant and
to begin preliminary design in order to prepare the feasibility study. One of the first things
through some detailed research that we uncovered was that the City of Chanhassen actually owns
right-of-way over Minnewashta Parkway through the city of Victoria. So this right-of-way
acquisition occurred in 1992 through a decision by the Municipal Board where Victoria ceded
the right-of-way to Chanhassen. The reason for it was it facilitated the allowing the use of State
Aid funding to fund the improvement projects for the section of roadway between Trunk
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Highway 5 and Trunk Highway 7. The original intent was to work with Victoria to create a
consistent pavement surface from Trunk Highway 7 to Trunk Highway 5 but now you know
upon finding that we own this section that kind of became part of our project and that added
approximately 850 feet of scope to the original project limits. So this is an exhibit that shows a
consistent section. From the south off of Trunk Highway 5 there’s a concrete surface that is part
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of a MnDOT project that goes to 77 Street so that’s where the project would pick up for the
southern terminus and it would go to the south side of Trunk Highway 7. The project includes a
full depth pavement reclamation is what’s being proposed, including trail rehabilitation, addition
of ADA pedestrian ramps along the trail and at intersections watermain replacement. Sanitary
sewer rehabilitation. Sanitary forcemain replacement. Storm sewer rehabilitation. Storm pond
improvements and retaining wall improvements. Another item that has evolved from the initial
project conception is the watermain rehabilitation. As an explanation the watermain on the south
side of the project, and here’s an exhibit. It goes from the south terminus all the way to Glendale
Drive where the dash is here. That’s constructed in a ductile iron pipe. It was mainly installed
in, around 1975 and the watermain north of there is cast iron pipe and that was constructed
around 1971. Around 1973 the industry manufacturing switched from cast iron pipe to ductile
iron pipe and that’s why you’re seeing the change in the pipe types for the watermain. The City
has a policy to replace cast iron pipe whenever there’s an opportunity due to a street project or
another improvement. The cast iron watermain tends to be more brittle. Be more susceptible to
the soil types and the aggressiveness of the soil that’s predominant in Chanhassen. The
interesting part that in analyzing and researching the break history associated with this section,
which is significant is that the ductile iron pipe has had the majority of the documented breaks in
it, not the cast iron pipe so in speaking with a utility superintendent of the previous city
engineer’s and they came to the conclusion that the entire length of the watermain should be
replaced underneath Minnewashta Parkway. That’s a significant additional cost of course but the
thought being that it’s going to be hopefully be another 30 to 50 years before we’re addressing
this section of roadway again and this would be the opportunity to get after it and not deal with
consistent additional breaks in the future. As part of replacing it and not, this project was never
intended to be a full reconstruction project. It was originally intended as a mill and overlay. We
adjusted the, that to a full depth reclamation where they’ll grind up the pavement surface. Leave
it as Class V for future use but not, we won’t have to remove all of the curb and gutter and do an
open cut construction for replacement of the watermain and if we did open cut that would lead to
being a full reconstruct. So we analyzed different trench list technologies to facilitate that
including pipe bursting, directional drilling, a new main in place and lining of the interior of the
pipe. Pipe bursting was determined to be the most effective technology to replace the watermain
so what that means is a, basically a cone or a peg would be inserted into the pipe that’s a little
larger than the type and it would be winched or pulled through the pipe in 300 to 400 foot
sections and it would burst the pipe, the existing pipe into pieces and a new HDB pipe would be
pulled behind it at the same time in order to construct the new watermain. So there would have
to be a boring hole to allow this to happen every 300 to 400 feet depending on the curvature of
the roadway where junctions are for services and for valves and bends and hydrants. All of
which would have to be excavated but the idea and concept is to do as little excavating as
possible. The sanitary sewer is also rehabilitated or analyzed for rehabilitation. There are 6
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segments from manhole to manhole that were determined to need to be lined. You know that’s
kind of a small percentage of the overall length. There are two lift stations for conveying
sanitary sewage by pumping along this corridor. Both of those forcemains are cast iron and both
of them have a break history associated with them and were determined it needed to be replaced.
There would also be some miscellaneous sanitary manhole rehabilitation as far as trying to avoid
infiltration and inflow in bringing them back up to a more reasonable standard. The storm sewer
system along the corridor was also analyzed. The good thing that we determined was the
capacity of the existing system is not only adequate for now but also adequate for future infill
and development as available along the corridor. There will be, need to be significant
rehabilitation to the structures. In total 69 structures will have work done on them to be broken
out as 35 for just on the chimney section for casting and adjusting ring replacements. 14 will
need some sort of other additional reconstruction such as patching. Going after the pipe
connections. Plugging holes. Taking care of so that we don’t have any sink holes and 20
structures require complete replacement. There are in total 7 ponds along the corridor. Three
ponds along Lake St. Joe were determined to need additional work. There’s one small pond
along Lake St. Joe that has completely failed. It was a pond. It no longer is. It just flows
through the vegetation straight to the lake. It’s completely, it’s hard to even find. The
forestation and volunteer growth is there and it was such a small pond. The pipes have become
separated and you know it’s in need of, dire need of maintenance. So this area and the slopes
along the side of the roadway don’t even facilitate reconstructing of the pond. Engineering
doesn’t feel that it’s, was a great design to begin with so what we’d like to do is, we’re proposing
to replace it with a sump structure and new piping to outlet to the lake. That will have to be you
know approved by the watershed district through final design but that’s what we’re currently, the
thought process is. Two other ponds along Lake St. Joe have significant sediment accumulation
and volunteer overgrowth along it and it’s proposed to clean out these ponds by dredging them
and taking care of the volunteer tree growth. Similar to the 101 project this is a project, another
of the project evolutions is there’s a significant amount of work at this point to warrant allowing
two construction seasons to ensure that the work can occur and get completed. We also feel that
this would lessen the impact on the residents. It would give them half of the project to go one
way or the other throughout the project and a contractor wouldn’t be taking up more of the
roadway than we absolutely need to. It will, it’s proposed to construct the southern half of the
project first. Currently final design will confirm that this is the best approach but to, one of the
most important comments that we’ve received back from residents through meeting with them in
a neighborhood meeting format and through issuing of a survey to the residents along the
corridor and getting feedback is the left turn at Trunk Highway 5 and getting there so what we
included in the feasibility study was a temporary signal at this location and this will allow us
more time to coordinate with MnDOT to facilitate getting that approved and installed by doing
the southern half first before we direct traffic to the south so. Estimated cost summary. Using
State Aid funds primarily for the street improvements. Using utility funds for the watermain and
sanitary sewer and stormwater improvements. And a total of the watermain is up to $2.3 million
for the work. Street improvement’s up to about $2.2 million and sanitary sewer and storm sewer
improvements come in at just under $400,000 for a total of $5.25 million dollars. Funding for
the project is as shown. Very similar to the costs that I presented before. The main difference is
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the addition of some special assessments to the benefiting properties along the corridor. This is a
collector roadway. There are not a lot of driveways along the corridor. I think there’s 37 in total
of which 35 are in Chanhassen and 2 are in Victoria. So we would need to work with Victoria to
be allowed to assess the 2 properties that are actually in Victoria but the right-of-way is in
Chanhassen so that’s a bit of an item to work through with the City Attorney. Proposed project
schedule is to basically approve, accept the feasibility study. Approve plans and specifications.
I see that I got a typo here but, and then tonight then have the, have the public hearing at the next
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council meeting on October 28. Approve the design on December 9. The last City Council
meeting of the 2019 calendar year. And then have a bid opening or approve bidding on
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December 9 and then have a bid opening in January of 2020. Have an additional neighborhood
meeting to show the project to the residents on February, 2020. Have an assessment hearing and
award of the construction contract in March, 2020. Start construction in the spring of 2020 you
know with, we don’t feel that each construction season is going to take the, you know all the way
up to November to finish up. It’s more probably about a 4 month period but you know to be
determined by, as part of the final design and working with the contractor once we have one but
hopefully finish up construction of Phase 1 in October of 2020. Starting back up in the spring of
2021 and completing Phase 2 in October of 2021. So at this point I’ll stand for questions.
Mayor Ryan: Great, thank you for the report. Council any questions? There was a lot of
information there.
Councilman Campion: I have one question about the cast iron, the CIP versus the DIP sections.
You said that the, was it 10 breaks had occurred on the.
George Bender: In the ductile iron sections.
Councilman Campion: In DIP section yeah.
George Bender: Yep.
Councilman Campion: The cause of that is what tree roots or?
George Bender: It’s more so the hot soils and corrosion of the metallic pipe so it, we found holes
in the pipe. We found where the bolts have pretty much rotted to the point of once we remove
the soil around them it comes apart.
Councilman Campion: Okay. Okay.
George Bender: And some of our leaks have been bigger than others but you know to wait we’ll
continue to have breaks and once we have a new pavement surface over the top that means that
we’ll be cutting into it to fix breaks.
Councilman Campion: Understood, thank you.
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George Bender: Yep.
Mayor Ryan: No questions? I have a couple and I’m going to break them in to two parts. One
kind of the specifics of the projects and then just generally speaking and you might be able to
answer some of them as well Mr. Gerhardt, but you did a great job and you checked, answered a
lot of the ones that I had. I was all excited to ask you about pipe bursting and you did such a nice
job explaining that. But it seems to me that some of the drainage and correction with the ponds,
I know you have to still get water, the watershed approval. My one concern had to do with the
sump structure that you talked about. You know we hear it from a lot of residents with ponds
being there and then ponds going away and then dredging and what, you know what they think is
going to be the new pond versus what isn’t so can you provide some clarification around how
you’re going to manage the ponds? And maybe this is too early in the process to even ask that
question.
George Bender: Specific to the pond that we’re proposing to eliminate, I don’t know if pond us
actually for what it was, was the right terminology. It was so small.
Mayor Ryan: Right.
George Bender: It was basically bermed up on the side of a hill it had a pipe coming into it that,
and there was, the water just, that would come off the roadway just blew it completely out and.
Mayor Ryan: So does that cause flooding because I don’t know where it is. I know that there
are homes surrounding Lake St. Joe. Where in relation, I guess my concern is all of a sudden
you’re, you know you’re working on this project. You’re putting in pipes. Redirecting water
somewhere else. Where is this water going to go and is it going to affect any resident’s ponds in
their back yards?
George Bender: This, it’s on the east side of Lake St. Joe.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
George Bender: There’s one main property along that’s a pretty big property. I don’t remember
the acreage from, off the top of my head but there’s one owner. It’s to the south of his property..
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
George Bender: And the lake is actually very close to the roadway at this location. There’s not
much room. There’s probably no more than 50 feet and so this was the design originally. I can’t
really comment on how it, how they came to building this pond but the velocity never came out
of the water flow into it and it kind of, you know it never stood a chance.
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Mayor Ryan: So there’s no water in it is what you’re saying?
George Bender: Right now it just goes from the inlet pipe straight through where the pond was
into an outlet pipe and it’s all eroded around this area and the water doesn’t even get into the
outlet pipe that was originally constructed.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
George Bender: And it just makes it’s way to the lake. There’s kind of a little bit of a settling
area that it formed naturally.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
George Bender: But it’s no the greatest situation and so the thought is to collect sand
particulates and bigger floating solids, leaves and everything in, by creating a new structure
that’s in the curb line with sump in the bottom of it that we can more proactively clean and get
to from a maintenance perspective rather than the location of this pond was, I mean to get a piece
of equipment in there to clean it was going to be very challenging in and of itself if that is ever
recreated.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor, council, just to add. If we were to go in and build a new pond we would
probably have more of an impact on the environment surrounding that new pond being so close
to Lake St. Joe so the benefit of putting a sump manhole in and not getting in and digging up so
close to the lake and the wetlands that exist in that area, a sump manhole is preferred and I would
think the watershed district would agree with that.
Mayor Ryan: Okay so it’s not adding any more water going directing water to Lake St. Joe that
all of a sudden they’re going to, because of this road project they’re going to see a significant
increase in the water levels in the lake.
Todd Gerhardt: No we’re hoping it’s going to improve the water quality going into Lake St. Joe.
Mayor Ryan: Quality, okay.
Todd Gerhardt: Because it’s going to let the particulates settle out in that sump manhole versus
just directly being discharged into the lake.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
George Bender: We’ve actually not proposing to add any significant amounts of storm sewer or
try to redirect the water to a pond further to the south end of the lake.
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Mayor Ryan: Right.
George Bender: That would require significant more improvements. I mean it will be something
if the watershed district doesn’t approve the sump manhole concept then you know we may have
to look at alternative solutions.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
George Bender: But in hopes to maintain the storm system as it is because it does have capacity
and functions as needed right now. We wouldn’t really be changing where the water is being
routed currently.
Mayor Ryan: Okay I appreciate that. It just, I mean we hear all the time about you know ponds
in people’s back yards and I know you do as well and it’s just a concern so I wanted to make
sure that we weren’t changing anything as it relates to this. There was something in there that
stood out in terms of soil correction. It was on page 6 of the feasibility report and it talked about
that the soils weren’t great. It says due to the large impacts of the complete soil replacement, da,
da, da, I guess I was looking for clarification on when they were talking about soil replacement
or the undocumented fill.
George Bender: The geotechnical study basically and the borings that facilitated it basically
identified an area that has significant underlying soils that are under performing. It’s causing
current problems along the roadway.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
George Bender: Certain settlements and more frost heave areas for, and a sub-base that isn’t
well supporting the existing roadway. So as part of that we worked with the geotechnical
engineer that prepared the report because some of this is fill. A lot of it is more of a peaty type
soil that doesn’t have the bearing strength that the majority of the roadway has so we looked at
either removing this and it’s I believe it was up to about 9 feet deep and the cost of that or trying
to create more of a bridging effect by using probably like a larger crushed rock like a 3 inch
minus geotechnical fabric for separation and then our standard road section over the top of it.
Mayor Ryan: So the result would be the same and the only reason why I ask is it said you know
we didn’t want to make the project any longer or make you know, to do something like you just
suggested but are we still by offering up this solution are we going to end up with a buckling
road after making such a significant investment in this road if we’re not addressing the
underlying issue with the bad soils?
George Bender: The geotechnical engineer did that analysis.
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Mayor Ryan: Okay so it’s.
George Bender: And felt that we really could bridge over the top of the road. This is not an
uncommon technique that we use to stabilize over areas just due to the expense of you know
there could be very deep areas that you know we run across consistently like this where we have
inferior soils supporting a roadway.
Mayor Ryan: Okay thank you. And sorry I have so many.
Todd Gerhardt: The Petromat is going to keep the separation of the water. There’s probably a
spring or something below the surface that is saturating the sub-base of the road.
Mayor Ryan: Right.
Todd Gerhardt: Which is making it soft and instead of going down and excavating out 9 feet of
soil we can go down and put down what is a Petromat and Class V and make a solid road base.
A bridge as he calls it and not have to spend the money to go down 9 feet to correct the soil.
Mayor Ryan: Okay. I just again with an investment of $5 million I just wanted to make sure
that we were correcting all the issues going forward so that was just a concern.
Todd Gerhardt: And that’s why we have a structural engineer, a geotechnical engineer that made
this recommendation so if we keep getting potholes or soft spots in this spot you know we can go
back to them and say you know we followed your directions. Why are we having soft spots
here?
Mayor Ryan: Okay, perfect. Perfect. And then my last couple questions, I know council
received a number of emails as it relates to the impact to some of the neighbors. Residents along
that way. What that roadway, the parkway is supposed to be for. My first question can you just
explain, and I know Mr. Gerhardt you could as well but explain what that, you know how the
weight limit. Weight restrictions for Minnewashta Parkway. What the road standard was built
for.
George Bender: Yep. The roadway is designated as a collector roadway which means that it is a
roadway that carries a significant amount of traffic out of neighborhoods and has a higher
average daily traffic associated with it. As part of being a collector roadway it is designed to a
10 ton design rather than the standard residential 7 ton design so it’s significantly stronger
roadway.
Mayor Ryan: Because this is 10 ton?
George Bender: Yes.
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Mayor Ryan: Right, okay.
George Bender: And as such you know it is designated, it’s allowed to be designated as a
municipal state aid route and by doing that it’s required to be constructed to those design
standards such as a 10 ton roadway.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
George Bender: It is meant to carry the heavier trucks and the greater traffic volume that it sees
on a daily basis.
Mayor Ryan: Okay perfect, thank you. And then my last question, and maybe Todd you can
just answer this and if you could go back to the slide where you talk about assessments. How
you come up, I know there’s 37 properties but when you’re using the MSA funds and some
others how did you arrive with the special assessments at this? With this number.
Todd Gerhardt: Well 35 of which are in Chanhassen and then we have a joint powers agreement
with Victoria which allows us to assess the other two properties in Victoria. What is a residential
equivalent so like Lake Lucy Road there’s probably 2 dozen homeowners that use Lake Lucy as
their local street. As I live on Stratton that’s my local street. Lake Lucy is their local street so
they should pay an equivalent of the same as I do on Stratton to be fair across the board for all
residents so there is a local street equivalent, assessment that will go against 37 property owners
and that estimate right now is.
George Bender: A little over $4,400 which falls in line with what our average amounts are for a
comparison to a full depth reclamation type of project.
Mayor Ryan: Right and I think that’s kind of what I was looking for like what is, how did you
arrive, is there a formula for that average or is it truly the average? I know we have some that
are $7,000. There are some that are less. Is it truly the average?
George Bender: It’s the bid items when they break the project down that go to just the street
portion of the project.
Mayor Ryan: Okay. Okay.
Todd Gerhardt: And it’s not the 10 ton street project. You subtract what would be a 6 ton local
street project.
George Bender: Yeah, 7.
Mayor Ryan: Okay 7 ton and that’s how you base it?
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Todd Gerhardt: Or 7.
George Bender: Yep.
Mayor Ryan: And that’s how you base the assessments on that. Okay I just, I know that’s a
concern. I’ve heard about it from people on Lake Lucy with the anticipation of Lake Lucy so I
want to make sure that we’re clear on how we assess folks that have driveways right along
Minnewashta. That’s it for my questions. Thank you.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor I’ve got a couple.
Mayor Ryan: Sure.
Todd Gerhardt: George you talked about dredging. Is it a backhoe cleaning out of the ponds?
George Bender: Yes.
Todd Gerhardt: It’s not like what I consider a dredging of a lake.
George Bender: It’s not like a dredging of a channel, literally no.
Todd Gerhardt: Okay. So it is a backhoe type construction where we pull out the materials with
a piece of equipment. We’re not pumping sediment out of the ponds so it’s directly will be
backhoed out. Put into a dump truck to the elevation that was established when the ponds were
originally built.
Mayor Ryan: Perfect. Oh and I forgot one. The crosswalk at Kings Road. Was anything
determined on that?
George Bender: We did get some comments from, through the survey and also through the
public engagement. It is not determined, or it has not been determined that the crosswalk
improvements that some people asked for are warranted. There’s not enough people crossing at
that crosswalk in particular to do anything more than zebra stripe across it and designate it as a
crosswalk. Anything.
Mayor Ryan: They were looking for more than just the designation of a crosswalk?
George Bender: Yes. We had people you know going as far as asking for that RRFB for, so that
flashing type system that’s up by Minnetonka Middle School West or is going in along Powers
Avenue at Lake Lucy Road eventually here so there, people felt that with having the beach on
the east side of the roadway, the parking lot on the west side of the roadway that there’s, you
know it warrants such a thing. There is not enough pedestrian traffic to actually justify that.
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Mayor Ryan: Okay. Okay. Council any, thank you. Appreciate all your answers tonight.
Council any motion? I don’t know who’s turn it is.
Todd Gerhardt: Dan’s.
Councilman Campion: I’ll go.
Mayor Ryan: Councilman Campion.
Todd Gerhardt: I’m keeping track.
George Bender: There was a slight re-wording that was done for the resolution that’s in the city
staff report versus what’s on the screen.
Councilman Campion: Okay.
George Bender: So that what’s on the screen is correct.
Todd Gerhardt: This one is correct.
Councilman Campion: Okay. Alright I propose a motion that the City Council accepts the
feasibility report for Minnewashta Parkway Rehabilitation Project Number 20-02, authorizes
preparation of plans and specifications and calls for a public hearing.
Mayor Ryan: We have a valid motion. Is there a second?
Councilwoman Tjornhom: Second..
Resolution #2019-50: Councilman Campion moved, Councilwoman Tjornhom seconded
that the City Council accepts the feasibility report for Minnewashta Parkway
Rehabilitation Project Number 20-02, authorizes preparation of plans and specifications
and calls for a public hearing. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with
a vote of 3 to 0.
Mayor Ryan: That motion carries 3-0. And just so for a point of clarification because we’ve
talked about a number of different dates for the public hearing. I think in the report it said
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November 12. In the motion it’s, can we just clarify for people. Do we have a set date for the
public hearing?
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George Bender: Yes. It’s going to be October 28.
Mayor Ryan: Oh it is.
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George Bender: We moved it up that one council meeting to help facilitate the schedule. We
have notified the newspaper.
Todd Gerhardt: So 2 weeks from today.
George Bender: Yep.
Mayor Ryan: Okay.
George Bender: So that is already in to put that in motion.
Mayor Ryan: Okay perfect, thank you.
George Bender: Yep.
Todd Gerhardt: Mayor I want to thank George for taking this project on in absence of our Public
Works Director and did a great job and thank you to Jon and so good job.
Mayor Ryan: Well done. Good job in the hot seat.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS. None.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS.
Todd Gerhardt: I just wanted to clarify, there were a lot of notes going out about Minnewashta
Parkway and the amount of truck traffic that’s going on there. The truck traffic, if you noticed
it’s trucks going to the north on Minnewashta Parkway and it’s associated with the City’s project
on the reconstruction of Forest Circle and Forest Lane?
George Bender: Yeah Orchard Lane and Oriole Avenue.
Todd Gerhardt: Oriole, okay. And unfortunately we could not use State Highway 41 to make a
left hand turn into those streets. The State as part of their safety improvements on Highway 7
eliminated all left hand turns into that area so they had to come down 41. Take Highway 5 and
then go up on Minnewashta Parkway and then take a right onto Highway 7 to get to those streets
and the road can handle that truck traffic. We apologize for the inconvenience of those, the
amount of trucks but it made our project costs less by taking that route and it should be done
within a week or so right now. Trying to beat the weather.
Mayor Ryan: Perfect.
Todd Gerhardt: So I just wanted the public to know why the truck traffic is going on.
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George Bender: I can add a little bit to that.
Todd Gerhardt: Okay.
George Bender: I did check with the inspector today that’s managing that project. The
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excavation for the Phase 2 roadway, which is primarily 64 and Oriole Avenue and a small
portion of Orchard Lane was completed today. So that also included the placement of the sand
and gravel sub-bases so the majority of the trucking should be completed. There still was
obviously paving to go which comes from the south from what’s called the Jackson Plant so
there still will be asphalt when they get to that point but I believe the concrete comes in from a
Cemstone Plant from a different direction so from a curb and gutter perspective it won’t be as
many trucks.
Todd Gerhardt: So we just have pavement trucks coming in the future?
George Bender: Yep.
Mayor Ryan: Okay thank you for the clarification.
CORRESPONDENCE DISCUSSION. None.
Councilwoman Tjornhom moved, Councilman Campion seconded to adjourn the meeting.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 3 to 0. The City
Council meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Submitted by Todd Gerhardt
City Manager
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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