01-2-91 Agenda and PacketE ile
AGENDA
CHANHASSEN PIANNING COMI{ISSION
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 2, 1997, 7:30 P.U.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE
CALL TO ORDER
PUBLTC HEARTNGS
1. Jerry Perkin, Pope Associates - property zoned BH and locatednorth of Iake Drive East, east of Dakota Avenue and south of
Hwy.5:
a. Site PLan Review for a 4,O42 square foot vehicLe
inspectlon station.
b. Replat of chan Haven Plaza 2nd Addition into two lots.
c. Conditional Use Pernit for a vetricle J.nspection stationin the BH, Highrray Business District
OLD BUSINESS
NEW BUSINESS
2. Election of office of chair and vice-chair.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL UPDATE
ONGOING ITEI{S
ADMINI STRATIVE APPROVAI,S
OPEN DISCUSSTON
3. Discussion of 1991 coals.
ALTOURN!,TENT
CITY OF
CHANH[SSEN
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1) Site PIan Review for a 4,042 square Foot office TestinFacility
2) Prelininary Plat to Subdivide 5.59 Acres into 2 lots wit
an area of 1.9 and 3.0 acres.
3) Conditional Use PerBit to AIIow a Vehicle
Testing Facility in the BH District
4) ordinance Amendnent to Al1ow vehicle Testinq Stations i
the BH and IoP Districts (considered and acted upon by th
Planninq Comnission on october 3, 1990. No action is
currently required. )
South of Hrry. 5, north of Lake Drive East and Chanhasse
Estates and east of ucDonaldrs Restgurant
POSAIJ:
CATION:
PPLICANT !Jerry Perkins
Pope Associates, Inc.suite 300
1350 Energy Park DriveSt. Paul, MN 55108
XIaTING ZoNING: BH, Highway Business
CREAGE: 5.6 acres
ACENT ZONING
ITE CHARACTERISTICS:
system control/
Stanley J. Krzwicki
Suite 208
5275 Edina Industrial
Edina, MN 55342
Olrner:
AND I,AND USE:
EITER IND weEER: Services are available to the site.
N-Hwy.5I - RSF; Chan Estates and Lake Drive East
E - IOP, Dataserv
f - BH, lilcDonald I s
The site contains a' Class B wetland located at th
southwest corner of the site. The site i
undeveloped and vegetated prirnarily vith fiel
grasses. The easterly portion of the site contain
Bature trees.
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BACKGROUND
on Septenber 5, 1990, the Planning Commission reviewed anapplication for Site Plan Review #90-9 for a vehicfe inspectionstation to be located at the intersection of Park Road and park
Place. epplications for conditional use pernit and .ordinance
anendment allowing vehicle testing stations in the fOp Districtwere reviewed concurrently. At that meeting, the planning
Cornrnission tabled action on the proposal due to concerns raised byseveral adjoining property owners and by issues raised regardingthe applicant's operations in other states. Staff was asked tofurther research the proposal and to contact cities that had suchfacilities and to find out what their experience has been(Attachnent #1).
On october 3, L990, the planning Connission reviewed the proposaland approved the site plan with a vote of 4 to 1. Commissionerwildermuth hras opposed. The same evening, the planning Cornrnissionreviewed an amendnent to the Zoning Ordinance to anend Section 20-
71,4 and 2O-Al4 to allow vehicle testing stations as a conditionaluse permit in the fOP and BH Districts. The Zoning Ordinance
amendrnent was reconmended for approval with a vote of 3 to 2.Cornrnissioner wildemuth and Erhart $rere opposed. Several planning
comrnissioners indicated a belief that an ernission control stationis nore suitable in a BH District versus the IOp District(Attachnent #2). The applicants have located a new site in the BHDistrict and are seeking approval from the planning Comrnission.
PROPOSAL/SIN.,IMARY
on Jgly 1, 199L, the Minnesota pollution control Agency (L{pcA) isrequiring that all autornobiles and light trucks t-icen-sed in themetro area be tested annually to monitor the revels of hydrocarbonsand carbon rnonoxide that their vehicle produces. The goal of theprogran is to reduce or elininate air quality probleris stenrningfron automobile use. The applicantrs firm has contracted with thestate to provide testing servj.ces over a seven year period. Thechanhassen site is one of eleven sites rocated within .the z countymetro area that are designed and approved by the state to provideadequate coverage for the Twin cities resi-dents. The ernissionstesting will be conducted on an annual basis in conjunction withthe annual vehicle registration.
As noted in the background. section, the applicantrs originallyproposed to Locate this facility in the inauitriat park n5ar theintersection of park Road and park p1ace. This ;ite net withopposition from area businesses as welI as fron the planning
comrnission rel,ative to the siters lack of visibility fron Hwy. 5and concerns about potential impacts on adjoinin{ properties.
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Although the original site uas reconnended for approval-, after the
rneeting it did not appear as though the city council would acceptit and conseguently a search for an alternative lras undertaken. At
the sane tine, several roembers of the Planningr Corunission indicated
a preference for a site located in the BH District rather than an
IoP District. The current site is located between Lake Drive East
and Hwy. 5 adjacent to the UcDonald's Restaurant. It has excellentvisibility directly fron Hwy. 5 and will have access fron Hwy. 5via two signalized intersections as soon as the De1l. Road is
completed next year. fn addition, as a BH designated site, thissite is eligible for high intensity uses such as a fast food
restaurant. Data subnitted to the City indicates that the 1eve1 of
irnpact from the testing station will be considerably less traffic
(approximately t) than the potential fast restaurant on the same
site, therefore, represents a lower intensity of developnent that
then is allowed by city ordinances.
The site plan is well developed. There are a nunber of difficuLt
issues pertaining to buffering the site fron area residential
properties and drainage and access concerns that nade site planning
sornewhat difficult. The building is a high guatity brick structure
that will have a series of service bays. A11 testing will be done
inside the building and vehicle stacking for cars waiting to be
tested is located on the north side of the structure ar^/ay from Lake
Drive. This location is ideal since it places these areas further
away from residences south of Lake Drive and wil1 aIlow the
building itself to provide additional screening. staff is
recornmending that the addition of a nansard or sloped roof system
be reguired for this building to make lt architecturally consistent
with other buitdings located in and around the chanhassen central
Business District, but otherwise finds the building to be
acceptable. The site will be operated five days per week with the
latest hours of operation being 7:00 p.n. It would be closed on
Sundays and litondays. There uilf be no servicing of vehicles done
on site, only air guality testing. Vehicles that require repair
work will be serviced off-site at establishments chosen by the car
owner.
The site landscaping is generally of high cJuality due to the
attention that was paid to this issue by staff and the applicant.
Additional landscaping and berming is being requested south of Lake
Dri.ve across fron the entrance to the site so that homes located
further to the south will not be inpacted by vehicle headlights.
This concern was one that was voiced by area residents during a
neighborhood :neeting that sras held by the applicant. The wetland
located in the southwest corner of the property will separate the
vehicle testing station fron Lake Drive. It will be preserved
through the dedication of a conservation and drainage easement andwill serve to further buffer the site from the residentiaL
neighborhood.
Based upon the foregoing,. staff j.s reconmending that the planning
Cornrnission approve the site p1an, without variances, conditionaiuse permit and subdivision requests for this proposai. Since thePlanning Commission acted to recommend approval of the ordinanceamendment allowing testing stations in the BH District at an
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Site access has been a najor concern of staffts throughout the
design of this proposal. Our original thinking was that a public
cul-de-sac should be required running north fron Lake Drive sincethere nay ultinately be 3 sites accessing Lake Drive via this newconnection. The current site plan has been designed accordingly.
Horrever, even after continuaL refinenent, staff is concerned thatthe need to create a cul-de-sac at the end of the street rrouldresult in a hazardous traffic situation, rrhereby traffic entering
and leaving up to 3 sites would be cutting across the cu1-de-sac in
an uncontrolled nanner. Therefore, we are recornnending that theplans be revised to utilize a connonly owned and naintained private
driveway systen that will avoid the traffic confLicts outlinedabove. From a design standpoint, this is a relatively sirnple
change and rrre believe it does not undentrine the effectiveness ofthe current plan. The proposed private driveway would be built tocity standards which would require the fuI1 32r payement width anda 9 ton design and curb and gutter. Traffic conflicts can beavoided by careful design of internal curb cuts.
In an accompanying subdivision request, the site is being dividedinto two lots, one of lrhich will contain the testing station andthe second of which lrill be reserved for future developnent. It isIikely that the second site rnay be further subdivided into two lotsin the future depending upon the buyers preferences. The parcel is
zoned BH so that higher intensity conmercial uses are Likely to beproposed but staff is not aware of any pending developments. Thesubdivision request is a relatively straightforward action.Conditions proposed for review would result in dedication of aIIrequired rights-of-way and easements including right-of-way for theexpansion of Hwy. 5.
Air.guality, noise and traffic issues concerning this proposal arereviewed docunentation provided by the applicant and -at[ached tothis report. From the documentation that is provided, it is clearthat this proposal t iII have no adverse air quality or noiseeffects on any residences in tbe area. Trafflc increases willoccur, however, this is inevitable with the continuing developnentthat is expected to occur along Lake Drive. The dLsign oa thestreet systen lrill ensure that no traffic is directed onto anyresidential streets. Conditions of approval require postingsignage on Hrry. 5 to direct as uuch traffiC to the sife as p6ssibl6through the De11 Road rather than Dakota intersections to rninirnizeoff site inpacts.
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earlier meeting, no action fron
ordinance is required.
the Connission tonight on this
GENERAL SITE PI,AN /ARCHITECTTIRE
The building is situated parallel to Lake Drive East and Hwy. 5.
Access is gained off of a proposed cuf-de-sac which connects to
Lake Drive East. Staff will discuss in detail the access aspectlater in the report. staff is reconmending that plans be revisedto utilize a private driveway be used versus a public cul-de-sac.Parking is located to the northeast of the proposed building.vehicle stacking is also Located north of the building so thatdirect, distant views fron residences located south of Lake Drivewill be ninirnized. The nearest home is located 350 feet away fromthe south edge of the actively used portion of the site. Directviews of the testing bays will be screened by benning and
landscaping fron both Hr,Iy. 5 and Lake Drive.
Materials used on the building will be 4rr x 8rr face brick accented
by 4tr x 8rr accents. Prefinished netal overhead doors rriIl be used
on the lrest, north and south elevations. The building architecture
neets the standards of the site plan ordinance requirenents,
although staff is reguesting a mansard roof versus the proposed
flat roof. We believe that flat roofs on commercial buildings are
inconsistent with the Chanhassen CBD architectural style and are
generally unattractive. The roof system can also be used to screen
roof mounted eguipnent. The applicant has failed to show a roof
top eguiprnent screening p1an. Such shal1 be subrnitted prior to thecity Council meeting. The applicant is showing the trash
enclosures screened by a netal rrall panels painted to match thebuilding accent. The gates to the trash enclosure will be
constructed of chain link fencing. Landscaping is proposed on the
east and west sides of the trash enclosure. staff is reconnendingadditional landscaping be provided along the north side of the
trash enclosure.
PARKING,/ INTERTOR CIRCUI,ATION
The cityrs parking ordinance does not address parking standards forfacilities such as the proposed. The most sinilar operation isvehicle service stations which reguires 4 parking sta11s per
service sta11. This use wil"I have 4 bays. Staff and the applicant
have spent tine refining the internal ci.rculation p1an. Theapplicant has a large amount of experience operating sinilarfacilities and staff was inclined to accept the soundness of theirsite plan. This is a high traffic volune use that is total).y
devoted to the novement of vehicles, thus great care nust be
exercised with internal circulation. Modifications were nade at
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staff's request to clean up the traffic novement at the entrance to
the site. on site directional signage is reguired for the safe
novenent of traffic. At the entrance to the site, the entrance andexit drives should be clearly marked. A stop sign should be posted
at the site exit onto the access road. North of the site entrance
a sign should be posted to direct cars waiting to be tested to thenorth away fron the parkinq lot that is designated for use by
employees and persons needing additional infornation.
As noted above, the cityrs Zoning ordinance does not provide
effective guidance in establishing criteria for vehicle stacking
reguirenents or for parking standards for uses such as the onebeing proposed. Plans call for providing f2 regular and one
handicapped parking stal1 srhich we believe will be acceptable.waiting tine for vehicles entering the testing station was thesubject of much discussion at previous Planning Comrnission
rneetings. The applicants naintain that the testing procedure takes
no nore than 2 ninutes per car and that vehicle stacking should berniniruized. There is extensj.ve roon for stacking of cars on thissite, but the applicant feels this is due to their design standards
which require significant over design in site facilities. There issufficient roorn to stack up to 35 cars on this site waiting toenter the testing station. The applicantts traffic consul,tant hasprovided data showing that the naximum stack expected is 23 cars
and this would only occur 18 of the tine. One of the ways in whichthe stacking tine will be niniroized is that the monument sign atthe site entrance is to have a digitalized display of estirnatedwaiting tine so that drivers can nake a decision before enteringthe site as to whether or not they wish to wait or come back atanother tirne. The provision of such a sign is a condition of
approval .
Experiences at similar operations around the country by planning
Commissioners and sone of the people that spoke at previousPlanning Conrnission meetings raised questions regarding theoperations of these sites, the applicantrs estinates of waitingtirne, and potentiat impacts of waiting vehicles on adjoiningproperties. consequently, staff contacted several cities withoperations rnaintained by this applicant in other states. Staffcontacted Skokie, Cicero, Chicago Heights and wood River, IIIinois.A1l those that were contacted indicated that there were no longterm traffic problens in the area. ff there had been any problerns,it was when the site rras first opened but there had been n-one sincethat tine. staff also attenpted to contact neighboring businessesnext to emission control stations to ascertain if thLre r{as anyinpact. In our adnittedly smalI sample, none of the businesso$rners voiced any co:nplaints whatsoever. On the contrary, onebusiness owner indicated that he does not even know that they arethere. The businesses that were contacted hrere McDonalds inchicago Heights, IlIinois, ofretter in Bedford park, IIIinois, and
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Dorninicrs Finer Foods in Northridge, I1linois. The oe/ners
uaintained that the sites were nicely landscaped and maintained and
that there lrere no noticeable noise inpacts from the site.
ACCESS
The site plan calls for accessing the site via a short public cuI-
de-sac running north fron Lake Drlve East. Access to Lake Drive
East will be via tvo signalized intersections, the first is the
Dakota intersection located west of }IcDonaldts, the second is the
new Delt Road intersection that is currently being constructed on
the Eden Prairie/Chanhassen border. Staff is proposing that the
applicant be required to work rrith MnDoT to install a directional
sign located east of the DelI Road intersection on Hery. 5 so that
traffic coning fron Eden Prairie to the testing station enters Lake
Drive via DeII Road and not Dakota Avenue. In addition, the
applicant has indicated that they would be responsible for
enclosing naps of how to access the site with the annual
notification for the inspections. supplying properly identified
maps shouLd also be a condition of the conditional use permit
approval . Lake Drive has recently been improved by the City and is
fulty capable of handling the expected traffic. As noted above,
the DeI1 Road intersection is being constructed to current
standards and no problerns are envisioned in that area either. The
Dakota Avenue intersection is scheduled to be reconstructed next
year along rrith Hwy. 5 i.mprovenents and again, staff envisions no
problems accessing the site through this area.
As noted above, the plans caLl for accessing the site via a short
cul-de-sac running north fron Lake Drive. This cul-de-sac would
also serve to provide access to an adj acent vacant lot being
created with the current subdivision request. This Lot could
potentially be further subdivided in haLf and under the BH zoning
could contain high intensity uses. fn designing the street, staff
and the applicants considered nany alternatives. In reviewing the
f inal, design for the cul-de-sac, staff has becorne concerned that
the cul-dejsac bubble itself may present an insurmountable traffic
hazard given the high traffic volunes exPected on this street.
with up to three sites entering onto the cuI-de-sac, traffic
movements across the bubble will be unrestricted and hazardous.staff investigated the potential of requiring the construction of
an internal traffic island and a one t ay flow around the cu}-de-sac
to better direct traffic, however, it did not appear to be possible
to incorporate this feature in a manner that would still allow
trucks maneuvering. Consequently, staff is proposing that the
design be revised to incorporate a private drive in place of the
cuI-de-sac. As envisioned by staff, the private drive would be
constructed to normal city street standards with a 32 r pavement andto a 9 ton design. Hohrever, as a private drive there would be need
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for the cu1-de-sac and elirnination of right-of-way reguirementsactually inproves design flexibility on the current site and futureparcels that nay be developed to the east. Staff does not viewthis as a urajor design change for the plan and believes it can be
accommodated relatively sinply bethreen the Planning comnission
review and City Council review. The private driveway would need to
be covered by a pennanent and binding cross access easenent runningin favor of all Lots currently being created or which nay becreated on this p1at. A private maintenance agreenent acceptableto our City Attorney is also required to ensure that the street isproperly naintained and plowed. The agreeroent should provide thatln the event that naintenance is not conducted in an appropriate
manner that the city would have the right to undertake saidmaintenance, billing the cost back to individual property olJners.
I,ANDSCAPTNG
The landscaping plan is very well conceived. Staff worked closelywith the applicant to design the landscaping p1an. Aerming ilproposed along the north and south side of the site. The vehiclesthat will be stacked on site will be totaLLy screened by the berrnsand landscaping. The applicants conducted a neighborhood rneetingwith the residential area Located south of the site (ChanhassenEstates). The neeting was held on December 20th. After themeeting, staff was contacted by residents from the neighborhood.
One of their main concerns was that as vehicles exit the ernissioncontrol site heading totards Lake Drive East, their headlightswould be shining into their living roons. To soLve this dilernma,staff is recommending that a berm be constructed and coniferouslandscaping be planted along the south side of Lake Drive East toshield the residences from vehicle headlights and to ensure theirprivacy. We have also reviewed aerial, photos of the area andconcl.uded that the entrance drive is not directly oriented torrardshomes in Chan Estates but rather falls betrreen thro homes, thusmaking it easier to screen headlights. An appropriate conditionhas been added.
LIGHTING
lighting Locations are illustrated on the plans. OnIy shieldedfixtures are allowed and the applicant has dernonstrated ihat thereis no more than .5 foot candles of Light at the property line rrhichneets the ordinance reguirernents.
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S IGNAGE
The applicant has subnitted a signage plan. one monumentidentification sign is proposed at the entrance to the site. The
area of monument sign is 35 sguare feet and is 5 feet in height.
The ordinance allows an 8o square foot display area and a maxinum
height of I feet. The sign is lntended to provide a digitalized
disptay of waiting tine that will be useful to nininizingr the
nurnber of cars waiting to be tested. The applicant must obtain a
sign permit prior to erecting the sign on site. one stop sign rnust
be posted on the driveway at the exit point of the eroission controlsite. A sign plan acceptable to staff should be provided prior to
requesting a building pernit.
GRADING,/ D RATNAGE
The existing chan Haven Plaza parceJ. drains storm htater in a number
of different directions. The southwest corner of the parcel drains
into an existing wetland area located near Lake Drive. The
northeast quarter of the parcel drains northeast to the Hwy. 5
ditch, while the eastern half of the parcel drains prinarily to the
southeast .
The proposed drainage ptan will alLow the northern half of the
site, cornposed prinarily of inpervious surfaces to drain to a catch
basin and storm sewer pipe outlet along the Hwy. 5 ditch to the
north. The runoff rate for this portion of the site will be
controlled via a pipe restriction which during certain storm events
will require surface pondind in the paved lane area of the vehicle
inspection site. Staff does not nornally find this type of ponding
to be acceptable, ho$rever, it is not feasible to construct a
designated retention Pond for this portion of the site without
significantly revisinq the site plan. During heavy rainfalls water
will back up into the parking and queuing areas to a depth of
several inches for short periods of time. This storm se$/er segment
is proposed to be connected to a future stom se$/er systen to be
constructed in conjunction with the Trunk Highl^ray 5 inprovernentsproject. I{hile this plan is unusual it will only be used to handle
drainage fron a srna11 portion of the site.
A small portion of the vehicte inspection site is to drain to the
wetland area. Staff $ranted to naintain the wetland and thus
overland flow of water is required. However, the drainage area
into the wetland is sna11, roughly sinilar to itts current supply.
In spite of extensive design efforts it is not possible to use the
wetland for ponding for most of the site due to grades.
The renaining f/3 of the southern half of the vehicle inspectionsite is cornprised priurarily of impervious area. This area is
PUBLIC I LTTTES
City water is available along Lake Drive East. Sewer is availablealong the easterly side of the Chan Haven plaza site. Theapplicant is.proposing to construct a public sanitary ser^rer linefron the existing 21'r trunk sewer in Lake Drive. Staff haspreviously indicated to tle applicant that the proposed alignnentis unacceptable due to rnaintenance concerns and ex-cessive l6nqth.It is recomrnended that they be directed to work with staff todevelop a more acceptable alignnent. The rraternain will aLso bebrought up fron the south. These plans are acceptable with ninorrevisions- . Utitr ity easements in iavor of the City are requiredover aLl lines located outside public right-of-uay.-
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proposed to be served by catch basj.ns and a storm sewer systemdraining to a proposed tenporary ditch innediately south of the
proposed cul-de-sac. This proposed tenporary ditch will functionto discharge the runoff to the southeast corner of Lot 2, Chan
Haven Plaza Third Addition. The najority of the area to be
discharged to the ditch currently drains via overland flot to the
southeast corner of the parcel. When Lot 2 of Chan Haven PlazaThird Addition develops, it is anticipated that sone sort ofretention pond will need to be constructed to serve the area. Thenost appropriate location for this basin, based on grades, appearsto be in the southeast corner. It is reconnended that then Lot 2develops, the applicant will be required to connect to the storm
ser4rer at the discharge point, im'nediately south of the proposedcul-de-sac, extend the stono sewer do$/n to the future detentionpond, and elininate the tenporary ditch section.
A11 of the grading operations proposed at this tirne are inconjunction with the construction of the vehicle inspection stationsite. Thus, nearLy att of the grading operations $riII take placeon the westerly parcel of the replat. Proposed grades will varyfrorn 18 to 38 in paved areas rrith a naxinurl of 4:L slope inboulevard and side slope areas. Berning is proposed along thenorth side of the site and the southern portion of the site betweenthe drive area and the wetland area. Erosion control is proposedto encompass the grading area of the site, however, it is
recornmended that Type III erosion control be inplenented around theI^Ietland until turf is established.
It is speculated that an old farnstead may have been denolished andburied bn the vehicle inspection site. 6oi1 borings were taken atvarious locations on the site. The resulting report did notindicate that there would be any problens with or specialconstruction measures needed to be taken as a result of thissuspected burial of rnaterials.
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COUPLIANCE TABLE - IOP DISTRICf,
Ordinance Proposed
Building Height 2 stories 1 story
Builcling setback l{-2ot E-IOI N-170t8-98 1
s-25r w-lot s-24orvl-28t
Parking stalls 12 stalls 13 stalls
parkins setback I:#l *:'0, I-]il?'*l3glr,
Lot coverage 558 38t
Lot Area 20,000 s.f. 79,720 s.f .
Variances Required - none
PARK AND TRAIL DEDTCATION FEES
The City is reguiring that park and trails fees be subrnitted in
lieu of park land. Fees are paid at the time building perrnits are
requested.
SUBDIVI STON
The subdivision proposal is a relativeJ.y siurple request that wiII
serve to split the 5.6 acre parcel into two lots. Lot 1, Block 1,
will have an area of 1.9 acres and be occupied by the ernission
control testing station. The protected wetLand wiII be located on
this lot. Lot- 2, Block I is vacant and there is no developnent
proposed on this site at this tirne. This site is.large enough that
it ioufd be further subdivided in half at sone point in the future.
Both lots meet or exceed all ordinance requirements. The following
easements are either illustrated on the plat or should be acquired:
1. Standard drainage and utility easenents around the perirneters
of all lots.
2. Drainaqe and conservation easement located over the wetland on
Lot 1.
3. Thirty foot wide utility easenents centered on sanitary sewer
and vraternain located outside of public rights-of-way.
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1. I9ill Dot be aletriDeDtal to osafety, comfort, conveaieuce
neighborbood or city.
Drainage and utility easenent dedicated
accomplish the tenporary dralnage ditch andof storm selrer.
r eDdanger the publicor general relfare
over Lot 2 tofuture extension
beal th,of the
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Dedication of required right-of-way along the H!ry. 5 frontageto acconnodate the Hwy. 5 inprovenent project.
Cross access and utility easenents located over the proposedprivate driveway. These easenents sha1l run in favor of Lotsl and 2 and any future subdivisions thereof and shall bedrafted i.n a nanner acceptable to the City Attorney. This
easenent shall also be drafted and filed concurrently with aprivate maintenance agreement acceptable to the City.
There is currently a drainage easenent running in favor of theCity over the northern portion of the property. This easenentis no longer required and the applicants have requested thatit be vacated by the city. Staff is recommending that this beapproved, hosrever, this action is undertaken by the CityCouncil and does not reguire Planning Comnissionconsideration.
CONDTTTONAL USE PER},{TT
The review of this request is a little unusual in that it is beingreviewed aqainst conditional use permit standards for an ordinancethat. although has been reconmended for approval by the planning
Commission has not yet been adopted by the City Council . In thiiinstance, both the developnent proposal itseli and the ordinanceanendment which legitirnizes the proposal are being processedconcurrently. The following constitutes our review of thisproposal aqainst norrnal conditional use pernit standards and withconditional use permit standards provided in the draft ordinancerevision pertaining to emission control- testing stations.
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FINDING -The applicant has gone to great lengths to providedata concerning potential noise, air quality andtraffic inpacts of this use on the lurrou-ndingarea. The data is fairly conclusive that therewill be no significant or unexpected irapacts fromthis use and, in fact, in rnany respecis inpactsgenerated by this use are less by a significantfactor then would have occurred or could haveoccurred if nore intensive uses allowed by the
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Zoning ordinance lrere to be developed on the site.
fitl be coaEisteat vitb tbe objactives of the cJ.tyrs
coDpreheDsive plaD aad this chapter.
FINDfIG - The proposed use would be consistent lrith the city
Courprehensive Plan as currently drafted or as
proposed in the draft plan.
rill be desigraed, coDstructed, operat€d aad naiDtaiDed so tobe coEpatible lu appeararco ylth tbe eristiDg or iatendledl
cbaracte! of th6 getrelal viclalty aad vtll not cbargo the
essertial character of that rr€a.
iINDrNc - The site is located adjacent to a major highway anda collector road. ft is in the Chanhassen
cornrnercial district and as such a commercialbuilding is futly consistent with this site. Staffhas recommended that a mansard or pitched roof
systen be used to replace the flat roof system toprovide continuity with other cornmercial buildingsin our business district.
will Dot be hazardous or disturbiDg to existiDg
neighboring uses.
OE planneal
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FINDING - As noted above, extensive data has been provided toillustrate the fact that there will be no
neasurabLe iurpacts in the areas of noise or airquality on any adjacent or planned neighboring use.
will be served adequately by esseDtial public facil.ities andservices, iacludling streets, PoIice and fire protection,
tlrainage structures, refuse dispoEal, sater aDdl serrer systens
and schools, or rill be s€rvea adeguately by sucb facilities
and serviceE provided by tbe persoDs or agencies responsiblefor the establishr[aDt of the proposed use.
FINDING - Ful1 city services are avaiLabLe to this site.
Roads serving the site are currently in the process
of being upgraded or in the case of Lake Drive were
upgraded in the past year and are fu1ly capable of
handling the access needs of this proposal .
riII not create excessive requireneDts for public facllities
and senrices aaal yiII not b€ aletrinental to the econonic
welfare of the conmuaf.ty.
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FINDTNG -
will Dot result inaccess, Datural,
signi fi caace.
The site is visible fron a najor highway and isaccessible froro that highway by 2 signalizedintersections and a collector street designed tocommercial standards. There will be no directtraffic inpacts to any area residential-neighborhood. The site plan incorporates several
measures to direct traffic into this area in anacceptable nanner. One of the site planrequirernents includes the posting of a MnDoThighway sign in Eden Prairie directing carsapproaching the site fron the east to enter LakeDrive at De1] Road rather than Dakota Avenue. fnaddition, the applicant has indicated that noticesbeing sent out to vetricle orrners warning then thatan inspection is due, will incorporate a mapshowing appropriate directions to the site. Stafiis proposing as a condition attached to theconditional use pernit, that such a map approved bycity staff should be required. the nap willclearly ilLustrate that the rnost favored approachto the site is via DelI Road rather than bakota
Avenue.
FINDING - There are no proj ected needs for public facilitiesand services beyond those which are alreadyprovided in this area.
Ilill trot Lavolve uses, activities, process€s, naterials,
equipueat aad coDditioDs of operatloD that yiII be detrineDtalto a[y persoDs, property or th6 geDeral relfare because of
excessive productio! of traffic, Doise, aEoke, fules, glare,
odors, roal€nts, or tragh.
FINDING - As noted above , there is arnple evidence that thissite will not create adverse inpacts to personsproperty or the general telfare of the area.
ni1l have vehicular approaches to tbe property which docreate traffic congestJ.on or interfere sith traffic
surroundliug public tboroughfares.
not
or
sol ar
naj or
tbe destruction, Iose or darlage ofeceaic or hLatoric feltures of
PfNDIllc - Staff does not believe that there wi]I be anydanage or destruction to features outLined above.
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10. wllI be acsthetically conpatible rlth tbe area.
FINDING - The site plan is well designed to provide adequate
landscapingproperties.
and buffering from adj oining
The building is a high quality brick
structure and site operations are designed to
screening asprovide the naxinun of off
possible.
site
11. rill uot alepreciate aurrouDAing proErelty valu63.
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FINDING - The site is being used for a connercial type ofoperation which is consistent with it's
designation. out of concerns raised during earlier
Planning Cornnission review of an alternate site,
staff contacted adjoining property ohrners in
conmunities in other states where sirnil-ar
operations by this applicant are maintained. we
hrere unable to find any indication of adverse
. impacts. l{e have also spoken with the owner of
adjacent llcDonaldrs Restaurant. He appears to be
excited about the possibility of the site being
developed for this purpose due to the additional
traffic it will bring to his establishment.
will De€t standardls prescrl.bed for certaia uses as Proviateat in
this article.
FINDING As indicated above, this use is being reviewed
against new conditional use pennit standards that
are incorporated in the draft ordj.nance that lrouLd
alIow enission control testing stations in the BH
and foP Districts. The following is our review of
proposed conditions of approval and appropriate
findings:
Tbe operatioa ia uader coatract agreeEeDt witb tbe atate
of ltinresota to provide tbese serviceE.
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b. No repalrs ar€ perfomed oa site.
FINDING - There hti1l be no repairs perforned on site.
c. No gas or parts are aold oD sito.
systen control is under contract with the Minnesota
Pollution control Agency to provide ernission
testing station services for a 7 year period to the
Twin Cities metro area.
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ZONING ORDTN CE AMENDMENT
Based upon the foregoing findings, staff is recornmending that theconditionaL use pernit be approved with appropriate conditions.
The_Planning Courmission does not need to take action on the zoningordinance anendment request as they have voted on it at the Octobei3, 1990 ueeting.
FfNDING - There will be no gas or parts sold on site.
d. No outdoo! storage of vehicles or relat€d Datelia1s.
PINDING - There will be no outdoor storage of vehicles ornateriaLs. The only tine vehicles lril1 be at thesite is during hours of operation.
e. Tbele be no diesel testLng allou8dt at the 8ite.
FfNDfNc - Testing of diesels and of large trucks is not now
incorporated into the t{innesota Testing Progran anda specific prohibition is being written into theconditional use pernit approval .
f. State aad federal air and Doise staDdards shall beconpliedl witb. If problens are founA to exLEt, theproperty orr:rer sball be reguired to pay for any testing
doemedl to be required by tbe city to clarify thesituatioa. AD update oa compliance sha1l be proviatedt bythe applicaDt after 6 noDtbs of operation.
FINDfNG - Data has been supplied indicating that the siteshould be in cornpl iance. A condition is being
added requiring a 6 nonth update.
9t. All vehicle stacking sba1l be provided oD site indesigDated lanes. vehicle stacl(iag in fire lanes,parking areas aDd other drive areas shall be prohibiteal.
FTNDING - Sufficient stacking is being provided to exceed thehighest expectation of need and staff does notenvision any problens. A condition is beingprovided to prohibit parking or stacking in theseareas.
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STAFF RECOI-O,IENDATION
Staff reconnends that the Plannlng ConnissJ.on adopt the followingnotion:
I. SITE PLIN REVIEW
Type IIf erosion control shall be used along the edge of the
class B wetland.
Landscaping along the south side of L,ake Drive East shall beprovided to ensure screening and provide privacy to the
homeolrners located to the south of Lake Drive East. The
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trThe Planning Corunission reconmends approval of Site Plan Review
#90-11 as shown on the site plan dated Decenber 3, 1990, subject tothe fo11olring conditions:
1.' The applicant Eust provide a mansard roof on the proposedbuilding. P1ans nust be subnitted and nust be approved byCity staff. Plans should also illustrate screening for HVACeguipnent. Wood slat screens are unacceptable.
2. The applicant nust obtain a sign pernit prior to erecting any
signage on site. Provide a sign plan incorporating thefollowing elements:
a. llonument signage incorporating waiting time information.
b. on site directional signage as outlined in the report.
c. unDoT/Hwy. 5 signage to direct westbound traffic frorn
Eden Prairie to enter the site via the DeI1 Road/Lake
Drive intersection.
3. Revise plans to elirninate the public street and utilize aprivate driveway. The driveway shall be designed to
incorporate a 32 t width curb and gutter, stom selrer and a 9ton desigrn. Plans to be approved by the city. A pennanent
cross easement and maintenance agreement acceptable to thecity Attorney sha11 be drafted and filed against all current
and future lots in the chan llaven Plaza 3rd Addition plat.
4. The applicant shal1 obtain a permit fron the I{atershedDistrict and conply with all conditions of the perrnit.
Drainage plans sha1l be revised as outlined in the report.
When the easterly portion of chan Haven Plaza 3rd Addition
develops in the future, the storrn serrer outlet south of the
cul-de-sac shall be extended to the future detention pond and
the temporary ditch shall be elininated.
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II. EUBDIVISION
rrThe Planning Comnission reconmendsshown on plat dated December 3,
conditions :
applicant shalI provide additional landscaping along the northside of trash enclosure. The applicant sha1l also providestaff rrith a detailed cost estimate of landscaping to be usedin calculating the required financial guarantees. These
guarantees nust be posted prior to building pernit issuance.
The applicant sha]I construct the sanitary sewer and water
nain and street iurprovenents in accordance with city standardspecifications and shall prepare finaf plans andspecifications and subnit for city approval. The applicantshaIl acguire a utility construction pernit fron the MnDOT andacguire the proper perrnits fron the Poltution Control Agency
and the Departnent of Health.
The applicant shall enter into a development contract with thecity and provide the necessary financial . securities as
requ ired .
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approval of1990, with
Subdivision asthe following
1 Park and trail dedication fees to be assessed at the tirnebuilding pernits are requested.
2. Provide the following easements:
Standard drainage and utility easements around theperimeters of aII 1ots.
Drainage and conservation easement located over thewetland on Lot 1.
c.Thirty foot wide utility easenents centered on sanitarysewer and watermaLn located outside of public rights-of:
way.
Drainage and utility easenent dedicated over Lot 2 toacconplish the tenporary drainage ditch and futureextension of storn sewer.
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Dedication of reguired right-of-way along the H!ry. 5frontage to accommodate the IIwy. 5 inprovement projLct.
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f Cross access and utility easenents located over theproposed private driveway. These easenents shaI1 run infavor of Lots 1 and 2 and any future subdivisions thereof
and shal1 be drafted in a nanner acceptable to the CityAttorney. This easernent sha1l also be drafted and filedconcurrently with a private naintenance agreement
acceptable to the City.
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III. CONDITIONAI, USE PERUIT
rrThe Planning Comnission reconmends approval of Conditional UsePemit 90-5 subj ect to the following conditions:
Cornpliance lrith conditions of site plan and plat approval. -
Provide direction maps approved by staff with each notice thatvehicle testing is due. The naps shaLl clearly illustrate andpromote entering the site fron DelI Road rather than Dakota
Avenue.
Applicant is required to rnaintain contract to provide serviceswith the State of Uinnesota.
No repairs to be perforrned or gas or parts sold at the site.
There is currently a drainage easenent running in favorof the City over the northern portion of the property.This easement is no longer required and the applicants
have requested that it be vacated by the city. Staff is
recommending that this be approved, however, this actionis undertaken by the City Council and does not requj-rePlanning Connission consideration. tt
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No testing of diesels or heavy trqcks to be perforned at thesite.
Maintain site in conpliance rrith state and federal air and
noise standards. If the City believes problems are occurr j.ng,
the applicant sha1l be notified and sha1l be responsible forperforning tests to clarify the issue. After 5 nonths ofoperation, a compliance report sha]l be prepared by theapplicant and supptied to the city.
A11 vehicle stacking and parking to be in designated areas.
No parking or stacking is allowed in fire 1anes, drive aisles,
access drives or public rights-of-way. tr
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ATTACHMENTS
Planning Co:nmission ninutes dated septernber 5, 1990 and staff
report.
Planning conmission ninutes dated october 3, 1990 and staff
report.
Reconmended Zoning ordinance amendment.
systems Control operation overview.
ltemo from Asst. city Engineer dated Decenber 26, 7990.
llemo from Park and Recreation coordinator dated December 19,
1990.
llemo from Building official dated Decenher 17, 1990.
Letter fron MnDoT dated Decenber 27, 7990.Traffic Study/Air Quality Analysis.Letter fron applicant regarding vacation of easement.
Aerial photograph of property.site plan and prelirninary plat dated Decenber 3, 1990.
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COHHISSION
REGULAR }IEETING
SEPTEI{BER 5, 1990
Chairman Conrad caIIed the meeting to order at 7 237 P.n..
Stcve Emmings, Annette El.Ison,llEtlBERS PRESENT: Ladd Conrad, Tim Erhart,
Brian BatzIi and Joan Ahrens
|tEltBERS ABSENT: Jim l.lildermuth
STAFF PRESENT; Pau] Krauss, Planning Director; Jo Ann Olsen,Planner; Sharmin AI-Jaff, Planner 1; and Charles Folch, Asst.
PUBLIC HEARING:
'tF RR Y OFEK INS OF P ooF aq<nclaiFq oengFE)TY ,alrrFn 1.|0 rNDI'qTPTAI OFFTt.F
SeniorCity Engi neer
PARK AND LOCATED AT THE TNTERSE ION OF PARK ROAD AND PARK PLACE:
A. ZONING ORDINANCE AIIENDI.IENT TO ALLOT.I AND CREATE STAIIDARDS FOR A VEHICLE
INSPECTION STATION;
C. SITE PLAN REVIET.I FOR A 4.O42 SOUARE fOlT VEBLCLE INSPECTION STATION.
Public Present:
Name
Barb & Russ l'lurphy
Roman Roos
Ned V. Rukavina
Dennis Pa i mer
Jerry Per kins
StanIey. J. Krzyr^ricki
Devid BraslauAl I ver son
James F i scher
Richard Andr easen
6451-59 Par k Road
1O341 Heidi Lane
5275 Edina Industrial Blvd.
5275
1360
3275
1 313
1500
1 500
1500
Edina I nduststh st. s.E.
Par k Road
Edina I ndust
Energy Par k
Par k Road
Par k Road
r ial BIvd.
Oriverial Blvd.. Suite 322, llpls. . 55404
Sharmin Al-Jaff presentcd thc staff report on this itcm. Chairrnan Conradcallcd the public hearing to order.
Dennis Palmer: I have a brief slide prcsentrtion if I may. lly name is
Dennis Pa]mer. I'm the gcneral manager for Systcm Control and I'm hcretonight Hith Stan Krzywicki our manager for thc proJGct. Systams Controlis...clean air company. l.Jc're Proud of our rcputrtion. Our prgsentation
tonighL is to the community of Chanhassen and r.rc'rc esking tonight forpermission to .Iocatc onc of our vehiclc tcsting flciIitics in thec t6 give a little background if f can. The Strtefederal reqoircments for clrbon monoxide. Carbonollutant urith long tcrn .xposure that could be
been determined by the fedcra] government thet
improve local air quelity, the Statc of Minnesot! is adopting a vchicle
inspection program. The program is designed to idcntify vehicles thrt !rc
community. Firs! I'd likof Minnesota exceeds the
produccd from rutomobilcs. So in an effort to
harmful to people. It's
carbon monoxide is mainly
monoxide is a hazardous p
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B. PRELII.IINARY PLAT TO REPLAT LOT 3. BLOCK 1. CHANHASSEN LAKES BUSINESS
PARK sTH ADDITION INTO TI.IO LOTS;
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the gross polluters. As I said, it's goal is to improve the air quality.
Systems Control has designed a fast automated test. The test invol,ves jusrlight duty vehicles. Diese]s, trucks, heavy duty trucks, tractor trailers.heavy duty buses, motorc)ucles trill not be involved in this program. Justautomobiles and light duty vehicl,es. The stations are operated by SystemsControl . SysLems Control is a l,linnesota Corporation, private corporation.
l.le do pay taxes. l.Je're not tax exempt. It's administered by the flpcA, th-llinnesota Pollution Control Agency. They're the lgcncy that Systemscontrol has their contract ..rith. Uith over 20 years cxperience, systems
Control. has become the industry leadcr in this busincss. This is our only-business. t,e test cars. tJe don't repair cars. Ue don,t sell cars. tJetest cars. It's our only business. [.le operate similar programs inCalifornja, in Alaska, in the State of Uashington, in Illinois and inl,laryland. t,e're starting a program for the Strtc of Florida and of course-the program here in l.linnesota. tte're proud of thc contribution ue,ve madeto these communities. fn Haryland alone, their program which is similar tothis program in design is credited for cleaning up or reducing carbonmonoxide bv 2O9 tons a single day. This is a facility in Maryland. Thisstation is 7 years old. t,e started our program there in 1984. t,e take elot of pride i.n construction. In the maintenance rnd the landscaping ofour facilities. LJe have clean facilitics. I started in this program in1983. I started with SC in 1983 as a station manager for this program. A_sharmin said, a vehicle inspection station is not listed as a use becauseit's neu sc if I could take a minute and explain some of the comparisons t-
some common uses that ule're familiar with. rt's a service business. UejusL test vehicles. tJe're a service business. Nor., this facility locatedin Chanhassen xill, their traffic flow wilL be someurhere betueen \/j and *L/2 of the average sized Mcoonald's in a single day. It's similar .to anauto bank rahere you drive through. you stop for 2 minutes and you driveon. It's strictlv drive thru. Host facil.ities are built larger than theyneed to be to assure that therc's no back ups in traffic. t,e're no! like -gas stations because ule do no repairs. There,s no repairs at thisfacility. It's strictly testing. There's no underground tanks. Noproblems r.,Jith disposi.ng of oil from crank cases. rt's stricLry testing. -tt's a house of computers. This is the network dcsign for thc state ofMinnesota. one of the requirements or one of the criteria ue use uhen weIocate a faciljty is convenience. Most people will not have to drivegreater than 5 miles to a facility on an averlge. That,s our €oal uhcn uefocate a fac.ility. This is an aer.ial photoEraph of the Chanhassen site.North is to your left. The lower portion of thc photograph is Audubon Roadrnd the site is locatcd, I'm afraid the arrou is kind of dark but it'slocated in the lourer right hand quadrant of the photogreph. This is astreet map location. Thc location is o.n park Road. This is !n lrtistrcndering of our facility. This is I gencric drauing. The facility -l,ocatcd here is 3 ranes. Thc flcilities arc brick c;natruction and fullylandscaped. Here's a Iandscaping plsn Sharmin had choun qt the cntrrnceson Park Road. Again it's strictlv drive thru. Th.rG.a 3 iancs. Thc fron!part and half of the left hand sidc is bcrmed. Aeain, !n clcvation of thefacjlity. Three lancs. The scction uithout the garagc doors arc thcnanagerial section. There's a manlger on this sitc. This is a pictura ofour.operation again in l.iaryland. Onc of our rathcr largcr faciliticsAeain, it's strictly testine. Exclusively tcsting. Ltc do no rcpairs. Thmotorist simply pulls in erithout appolntmcnt. pulls into the bay. Isgreeted by an inspcctor. The inspector puts in thc drlvcr's Iiccnse plate-rnfornration is called up and in 2 minutcs, ]ess thln 2 minutcs actualry,
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the test on average is completed.. These facilities are basically houses ofcomputers. That's aII that exist in these facilities. Computers andpaper. Approximately 10? of the folks wiII have to use our informationoffice. tlost people though uill pull in, receive their inspecti.on resultsand pull out. A little bit about our operations. Again, it's drive thrutesting. The average test time is less than 2 minutes. Ue do recruitIocalIy. This facility will employ approximately 10 to 15 people. OuroPerating hours are Tuesday thru Saturday- tlr'r€ not open l.londay and He'renot oPen on Sunday. Tuesdays and Thursdays ue close by 7.OO p.m. and onl^,ednesdays and Fridays ue close at 5:3Oare from 8:OO .to 2:00, Also before ue son communities. tle've employed Dr. DaviDavid Brasl.au, a local environmental impcuality and traffic studies rnd eII thes
before ure select the site. In this case
And on Saturdays our hoursct a site we consider the impactraslau. Contracted with Dr .cngincer, to perform air.tudies have to be favorableain they're alI favorabl.e. Uith
P.meledB
actes
a9respect to noise, noise also is favorable. A little comment. One of ourfaciijtjes in Maryland, after the operation the stations in no way effectnegatively the local area development. Ue've got doctor,s offices, retailoutlets, even a nursing home had been built after the operation. The folksfrom the nursing home are al$ays over having coffee and complimenting our
manager on how clean and neat the facility is so ue are good neighbors.].le're confident that He can do eood here and help improve the air quality.
The federal EPA says lhat h,e can, they expect in the first year operationto reduce emissions by 36,000 tons and by 1995, 135,OOO tons in a year. Ueare good neighbors and we hope that you accept your staff's recommendation.
Thank you .
Conrad: Thanks for your report, Okay, r.re'lI open it up for other.publiccomments. AYe there any?
Richard Andreasen. I'm the frcilities manager at'd like to state in the past I've noticed the Citygreat concern r.lith neeJ projects and hor.r it affcctsnto the community. I belicve uith the increasedust fumes, noise, that the inspection station does
ssen Lake Industrial Park. I believe ue shouldke Industrial. Park an industrial park. Thank you.
Richard Andr easen: I'mthe Pl.lT Corporation. I
not fit into the Chanha
leave lhe chanhassen La
of Chanhassen has had a
others and how it fit i
lmount of traffic, exha
James Fischer: l,ly name is James Fischer end I'm rcprcsenting on behalf ofthe employees of PMT Corporetion. I have spoks lrith scveral P],tT smploy.es
and ue feel that the inspcction station uould bc a dcmoralization of someof the people aith, well the cmployees. tle go outside on break. It'squiet. There's no cars. The air smells nicc and nou there's not going tobe that if this goes through. Thcrc's going to bc noise. Thcrs's going tobc Lhe smell of car exhaust. I know thc smell. I livcd in California for4 years while serving in the military. I had to hevc my car inspectcd.very year. I know Hhet it's like to sit in line and sait and nait. 4 or5 cars deep. I don't b.Iicve that. I've cccn it lnd I've bccn in 20 plus
cars deep laiting for an inspection on my vchicle. lt's Eoing to smelI.
The employees aren't going to be going on thcir walks on lunch. Thcy just
uon't like it and they don't. Thank you very much.
B.tz]i: tlhen you Here Hliting 20 in line dcep, uas that just a safcty
check or just an emissions chcck?
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Conrad; Thank you. Other comments?
RusS t"lurphy: I 'm Russ l'lurPhy . I own lllurPhy l,lachine ComPany across thestreet from the proposed site and somebody had mentioned the noon wa]ks.
There's a lo! of people ualking on Park Avenue and it's becoming a racetrack. I bought the first lot out there and I've *atched each building 9oup and half the traffic aoing through l.lcDonald's is probably 10 times thetraffic ue have right now. I don't think it uould fit in very Hell. Than
you .
Conrad: Thanks for your comments, Other comments? Anything else?
AI Iverson: lly name is AI Iverson. I'm President of the PllT Corporation._I've ljstened to a pretty heart r^rarming presentation, tJe're all interestein the environment and aj.r pollution. I have a responsibility to my
employees as uell and r.re came out to Chanhassen Industrial Office Park backih 1986 and we were toLd it r.rould be an industrial ofiice park and we
manufacture medical surgical products. tle have clean rooms. tJe cater toour emp).oyees. l^le're putting up a new building. By the way I uas nevertold about this presenLation, I'm putting 1.4 million dollars inlo a turo. -story building. It wiII heve, it's built for the employees. There's anexerclse room. t"Je have an additional 1O,OOO square foot clean room. tJeare and we've been working with Paul and his staff and we feel that they,vereally been concerned about the industrial office park but lhis j.s notfitting. You have to rezone to put it in there. This is not goinb to beconducive to an jndustrial office park. This r.rilI not be conducive tofuture clevelopments. I'm anticipating as paul knows, tr.,o other buildings.-Our company is growing very rapidly. tle have over 1OO employees. t,,e allh,ant to take the pollutants out of the air but this isn't the location forit. Drive into there. See how diffjcult it is to, ue have people having arough i-ime findins it and they're going to be knocking on our door, banginto our areas. I have employees who r.lal k down the Street. They enjoy it.They take their breaks and so forth and ure like the Chanhassen LakesIndustrjal Park. f have 10 acres there. tle're putting in clean buildjngs-tJe're Iistening to the city. tle're r.rorking with the city. This isn,tconducive to t^lhat's goin9 on and I take grave exception to the fact that
number one ' ure r.reren't told about it. r have a project that's no!,, 2 monthF-old. f heve 2l/2 noye months into that project. I feel vcry offcndedthat I uasn't, ue Bere never notified about this, There are other sites.There's a lot of land around there. Right off TH S. This good gentleman _mentioned l.{cDonald's. Th6t's right off TH 5. put it uherc . McDonald,s is.-
somewhere close by. There's plenty of land, Not in the industrial officePark. Please. I have a lot of good employees. f r.rant to entice goodquality people to come into our company. This isn't going to do it. yconstruction consultant l,tr. Dick Hellstrom wrote a list of things tha!rvould happen. He's 23 years r 1,1r. Dick Hellstrom's been working 23 years inbuilding buildings for Control Data Corporation. I suspect he's gotprobably the best reputation in the Twin Cities. He indicated that heuould see that prope'rty values uould fa1l. Those beautiful pictures upthere djd not sho!.J anything about the surrounding area. I b,as a residentof Florida for 4 years. The inspection stations utere a mess. I think t.le -should really seriously go visit some of these areas number one. Numbertr.ro, the traffic. The traffic for my employees is just eoing to be
James Fischer: Just emissions. To get a certificate.
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ridiculous. Come on. Let's put it out on TH S someplace. There's a lotof lots out there. Plenty of land. This is ridiculous. It r.riIInegatively impact future development of your property to the north. Thetwo buildings ure're anticipating. The office buildings. Traffic throughthe area will be greatly increased. Air pollution in the area will begreatly impacted. Cars are the greatest contributors to air pollution inthis area. Hey we're trying to clean up these cars but does that mean thatour company and our employees and everybody else has to suffer? Let,s getit close to the highway. f mean gee whiz. tJhat are hre doing to all thesepeople in an industrial office park uherc ue came to have a manufacturing
f acili.tv and ule treat our people we]l. The area uill be much noisier thanit is at the present. There is no doubt. Hy office customer servicemanager, Sue Crankee has told me that shc's very concerned about the numberof people Presently r.rho confusingly lealk into our offices and ask Lrhere arethe>,, l can imagine a whole lot more people doing that. l.le are a good
neighbc.r here. tje're a good manufacturer. tle're a clean manufacturet-. ue
maruf ac*-ure cIean, quality products, I don,t think ure need this. property
vaLues will be negativelx impacted. Top quality firms and individuals thatmighL hai.,e been interested in locating or buying in this area will bedebLered uith the emissions facility in the area in this place. I! r.riLl be
mc,re Cifficult to sell properties lhat are directly adjacent or rentproperties that are directly adjacent to this special use fEcility.Special use facjljty. This is not part of the industrial office park
compiex. The proposed uses not compatible r.rith exisLing zoning and planned
development f or lhe area. Planned development. l.le caDe in here. -t,Le've
been working with Paul Krauss. I mean I don't care if it's a spaceslation. You can't rea]Iy plan ahead for things like this. I,m sure you
can say urell it didn't exist before this. Hey, this is an industrialoffjce park complex and I think we oble somelhing to our employees and thisis where ure have to stand pat. This is not conducive to our business. Foranybody. I mean manufacturjng is a carreer. l.,e go to great strives as alistines of the FDA and GlfP and ue're a good neighbor. you know in 11years !.Je've never been sued in the medical business. Think about it. In aIetituous society. tJe go to great strides to keep up and uith r.rhat isnecessary !o be a good manufacturer. This is, ule're ,nanufacturers andwe're office parks out there and this is not conducive for ulhat we'redoing. Possibility exists for ouners site to be used as unauthorizedparking or dumping. People will just come through. You haven't seen theseinspectjon sites. And the traffic alone is just not conducive to myemployees. I am really shocked that ue b,erc not notifi€d about this and Iuil] go to Ereat strides to just say hey, this isn't fair. I've really
stood behind PauI Krauss and the Planning Commission for a lonE time and
we've l^istened to them. 1.1e've bent over backwards. l.lc've made changes toplanning to make our facilities fit and I feel really someuhat personally
assaulted here because bre've listened. tle've bargained. trc'vc
communicated. l,le've, I shouldn't say bargain but complomised. f mean theworld's a compromise but this isn't conducivc to rhat us crme to the
Chanhassen Lakes fndustrial Park for and that's to have a clcan environmentfor our employees to work and this is not 9oin9 to fly. Period. I thankyou for your time. l.le have a grob,th company. tle have over 1O0 employees
nor.J. tle're doubling annually and I hope you understand r.rc hrant to be a
sood neighbot but this isn't rieht.
Conrad: Thanks for your comments.there a motion to close the public Other comments? AnythinE clse? Is
hcar i ng?
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Erhart moved, Enmings scconded to close the public hearing- All. voted in -
favor and the hotion carricd. The public hearing nas closcd.
Conrid: Just a quick comment before ta,e open it up for Planning Commissior-
comments. tlhat is the projected traffic count per day?
Dennis PaImer : l^le average approximately 4OO vehicles.
Conrad: And does that groH over a time period?
Dennis Palmer: That 4OO vehicles is our...and that 4OO vehicl.es is the
estimate for... Yes it does grow so the first couple years...
Conrad: So maximum capacity is 4OO?
Dennis Palmer: No, that's not the capacity. The capacity is approximatelr
25O per...
AI Iverson: Is that 1,OOO cars?
Dennis PaLnrer: That's Lhe capacity. yes sir.
Conred: Joan, r^re'll start at your end. Any comments?
Ahrens: Hor.r r^ras Chanhassen chosen for this? It seems to me that it r.rouldbe more LogicaL to locate a center like this in an area tha! uas moreeasily accessed by highways and maybe like closer to Eden prairie Center osomething like that. I know there aas an extensive study eJhere it u,asmentioned ir the staff report where it was determined that the 11 sitesuere go.ing to be located strategica]]y in places around the Tuin Cities bu-this doesn't seem like a real great site to me.
Dennis Palmer: tlell we typically locate in industriil parks and Irecognize the concern of the neighbors. I hear it all the timc. I don'tknow hor.r to prove to the commission that that's not the nay it is. Trafficand air pollution. It is a quiet facility. It is clcan. lte locateconvenient to large populati.on arcEs. Cars cxist in this arca. That's wha station is located in this area. ft's not intended to drau cars fromother areas into a community. tre are ncar TH 5 but l.le avoid najor highuraysto assure there are no traffic problems
t,le don't have a lot of peoplg out thcrc. I mean r.re uill bea lot of people inLo this area but locating. If this facility is -in Chanhassen, it will be drauing a lot of people to this area. l.t
have problems uith TH 5. Big problems and so that mry be contraryyour intent is. The result may be contrary to l.lhat your intent is.
AI fverson: So you've designed it for 1,OOO automobiles a day?
Dennis Palme:': That's to assure that there are no log jams. people will
come in every 2 minutes for their test.
Dennis Palmer I l.le use the Hetropolitan Council's TAZ counts uhich istraffjc zones to locate where pockets of population, people cxist. They're
Ahrens:
drar.ring
I ocated
a I ready
to uhat
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fed into a compuler and thefacilities where 90? of thegoal is 1OOz" and that is to
immediate east of the area.facility and also east that
State's requirement is that ue locate
Peop]e have to drive no more than 5 miles,service the folks to the !.iest as urel] as toThere are facilities located north of this
r.ri I I dra* about midpoi nt .
Our
the
Ahrens: t,here uill they be located?
Dennis Palmer: l.linnetonka, Savage and in the BI oomi nEton,/Richfield area.
Ahrens: l.lhere's the Minnetonka ]ocation?
Dennis Palmer: I don't know cxactly. Stan could help you.
Stan Krzywicki: It's right off of Hedberg park
of...Hopkins border. Off of 169. probably theExcelsior.
which is right offnearest crossroad would be
Ahrens: tJhat kind of area is that? I can,! picture r.lhere that is.
Stan Krzy!.Jicki : Cedar Lake Road.
Krause: It's a major intersection. There'sdensity residential development to the northindustrial park to the south. There's a niceacross Minnehaha Creek further to the south.grave) qu a:'r y .
residential development. High
and east. There's anresidential area in Hop ki ns
To the uest is an operating
Ahrens: Is that down by 169 and Excelsior Blvd.?
Krauss: No it's old, that's Hopkins Crossroads and Cedar Lake Road.
Ahrens: Okay. You knob, I've been through these before !oo. I .iivedin IIIino!s and my experience urith them r.ras terrible. I mean there t"rere]ong weits. There were alurays lots of cars and frustrated drivers becausethey did have to urait so long and that's from uhat I've heard from some ofthe other peopje tonjght, have experienced the same thing and f uasn't sureif that had jus! happened in IIIinois but it sounds like that happens allover the place uJith these sites. This looks very smal] to me. you hsve 14parking spots .here. You're going to have 7 gmployees and 1Ot of the people
who use this facility will be parkinE to use the information ccnter risht?
Ahrens: t^lhat happens when, I think thc parking, I mean I haven't seen anyof the studies of r.rhich this rcport rcfcrs so f don't havc any informationabout thet but it looks too small to me. Considering r.lhat my experiencehas been in the past, there's never been enough room. They'rc llt.lays over
crowded and there's aluays Iong lines of cars.
Dennis Palmer: f can't speak forhappened. These facilities, like
more times the number of vehicles
Codes L,ith respect to parking and
your experiences. I'm sure that thatI said, arc built to accommodate 2 or
anticipated on an average. tle mee! theto the State 's guidelines.
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Dennis Palmer: That's an estimate, yes oa'!m. They stop in. 5 minuevisits and they leave. I'tost people will drivc through.
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:cki: The 4OO cars is the absolute peak.
IIlinois, there were certain days that you
L'reeze through. There are 3 Heeks.
Stan Krzywicki: As far as the parking is concerned, typicall.y what r.re'dhave, the -: bay staff urilh 1 person being a manager so you really only hav-4 staff people at a time. The 10 people that we had talked about, becauseure're running 12 hour days,7 and 7 on 2 days, we actually have part timepeople working at the stations so our staffing level is 10. The people
that work in the lanes urill be part time people.
Ahrens: Are those projecls based on the number of cars you anticipategoing through if it sLarted up tomorror.J? Not on 4OO cars or more. Thenyou'd have !o have more employees right?
Stan Krzywicki: No. No. that's no! correct. tlhat r.re'd actually do is,r.rell you're right. There is a mode of testinE r.rhich makes the testingfaster which is a tube position test so that staff uould...6 people plus 1station ma nager .
Ahr€ng: Sc you could have 7 employees.
Stan Krzyricki: And that would be the maximum
Ahren:i: 'l'hen ycu'C have 400 perhaps, approximar-eIy 4OO cars going lhrough
Ste:r ri
recai.i
cou.i i
Y Z.yn
injust
Normally. as you
could Eo in and you
There are 3 weeks duiing the month that are ]ike that.
uhen we have, uhen we test most of our vehicles,
Stan Krzywi c ki ;
The last r,ree k is
Ahrens: I don't know about Lhat but if you
4OO cars, Iet's say 4OO cars going through
nurnber beceuse t.hat's what you anticipate i
you
on
have
thata
n
have 7 employees and
day and I'm focusinga few years. Right?
Dennis PaLmer : Yes f,la'am.
Denni syes uJe
Palmer: J don't see the needcan. Yes ma'am, ure can.
to expand either lanes or parking, but
Ahrens: I'm still thinking about this. Uhy don,t you move on.
Conrad r Br ian?
Ahrens: I don't know when that r^ras,
Ahrens: And if roZ of those people are parking their c!rs, 9o into the -information center, that's 40 vehiclGs over a 12 hour pcriod. Is that it?
Dennis Pa1mer: That's less than 4 an hour, yes ma'am.
Ahrens: Less than 4 an hour. I don't knoH. I just don't, the parkins
seems, I have a real problem h,ith that. It doesn,t seem big cnough andHhat happens if you need to expand? Can you cxpand in this? I mcan canyou expand the par k i n9?
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BatzIi: tthile we
quest ions f irst .
have the
HouJ L o ng
applicant up here, I might as well ask thoseis your contract Hith the State?
Dennjs Palmer | 7 years, The program starts in
Batzli: Have you ever conducted a study on thelocetion of one of your test facilities?
Dennis Palrne:': Dr. Braslau is uith us this evening.
urha! i-ha! hcur concentration would be. If you'd likeguest.id:-r xith hj.m, I'm sure he'd be happy to.
1991 and expires in 1998.
environmental impact of the
He's done a study onto address tha+-
Dennis PaImer: yes. Actually we've done sLudies on uhat this facility,the impact thj.s facility uill have to the community in terms ofenvironment, tle've done studies on existing facilities in our otherstates. In Baltimore for example, OSHA is very concerned with thepollution levels of the actual inspectors in the faciliLy and they placemonitors on the inspectors to determine whether .or not there's a healthhazard. Their conclusion was that it's more dangerous to uralk down thestreets cf downlown Baltimore than it is to r.lork in the inspection
f acility. Nor^r this wasn't their of f icial conclusion but there uJas noharm'ul effect. I mean that hras a commbnt. r mean that r.rasn't uJritten butf mean I'rn trying to explain how little impact it really is and I don't
k now hor"r t o .
Batzli: I think any congregation of traffic is going to concentrate theai:' pcllution in that area so that although it may be urithin certainsuideljnes, 1t rill jncrease it 1n that gj.ven area and that's the concernof +-he people here.
Betz]i: Dc you guys uant it addressed?
Conrad: You're in charge, It's question.
i! addressed.Bat-zI i : Yeah. I urould Like to
Dr. David Brasl.au: l.1y name is Dr. David Braslau. I'm Prcsident of DavidBraslau Associates, l.'linneapolis. l.ly address is, company address is 1313Sth Street S.E. in the old Narshall U High School I prepared a report
which is entitled Carbon tlonoxide Analysis of 5 Vehicle Inspection Sites inthe Tu,ri n Cities l,letro Area f or System Control Inc, dated August, 1990 andin the report I looked at 5 of the sites which are being proposed includingthe Chanhassen site. tJhat xe look at is carbon nonoxide. The PollutionControl Agency since the testing site is intcnded to reduce carbon monoxidecmissions, they are very interested in knowing |rhcthcr or not the locationof lhe site itself r.riII cause problems uith carbon monoxide conccntrations.
Carbon monoxide is a gas which is prolematical only in high concentrations.It's very localized and it is easily dispersed so that the primary intentof the vehicle inspeclion is to reduce overall emissions of carbon monoxide
so that a hot spot such as 7th and Hennepin, Lake and Hennepin, Snelling
and University whjch are the spots u,here the standards have been exceededin the past, that if the inspection stations...overall cmissions by 2OZ,that will then bring the levels at these sites down below thc standard.
your
hear
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The standard is 9 parts per million over an 8 hour period. The standard isintended to insure that people, including infirm people are not adversely -jmpacted by carbon monoxide. [.Je assume that for the carbon monoxide
analysis at the site, t4e assume that there r.rould be a capacit)z of 8O cars
an hour going through the, this is the expected, actuallx the capacity of -is 1O5. That is absolule maximum capacity but the normal expected maximum
Jevel that would
urhen people have
3 r.ree ks and thenthat's r.rhe n there
looked at 81 cars
2 parts per millithe roadr,,ray and t
be
to
in
's
P
on
ha
,going through this site in the last 5 days of the montn
, in other xords people EilI procrastinate for the firstlhe last 5 days they feel they have to go in and soa push to have their vehicles inspected. And so u,eer hour. l.le projected the I hour levels to be less thanat receptive sites that r.,ere about 10 meters away fron-t Has about 30 feet. So anybody that's further auay is
9oin9 to have a louer concentration. l.Je're assuming a fairly stable
atmospheric condjtions. tJe're assuming 1 meter per second wind whichrealiy doesn'" disperse the pollutants very much. So that r.re realIy CiCnot, et thjs particular site, project any significant concenlrations of
carbon monoxide. I should point out that carbon monoxide is not a, it'sstrjctly a gas. The gas is pollutant. It's not a dirty pollutant likediesel exhaust are Iike particulates that come out so the projected levels
ulere actual. ly qujte low. The highest levels that eJe projected for any siteuas at a 4 oy 5 lane site where because of the background level that r^re harto assume, the PCA reduires that t.le assume a certain background level toadd ontr the roadway concentration and the roadr.lay concentration generallyie cn the order of I L/2 to 2 parts per million. The background level t hal_
r4e es'limatecj is about 1 part per million so ue're talking about at. the mos3 trarts per million jn the area r.lhjch is about 1,/3 of an 8 hour standard.
Now f don't know, I'd be happy to answer some specific questions on thisbut re oor','t , at any of the sites, project that the levels r.lill be abovethe stencarCs. Ir fact in Chanhassen we're looking at, because t,,e onlyhave 3 )anes, we're looking at about 3OZ of the I hour standard even withthe urorse cese traffic. Thank you.
Batzli: Paul , could you explain !o me why this type of a use should be aperr:itei use in an IOP area?
Krauss: !e Looked at this from several different vieupoints. First of aI_-ue note that this is a State program. They're under a State conCract.There's only one of these. It's almost a quasi-public utility for, if you-
Hant to view it that.b,ay. Riehtly or wrongly thcy've selected Chanhassenas a receptor site based on their anarysis and },e ]ooked at L,here else thiscould 9o in the community and decided that a TH 5 location urs not optimal_That LJe would rather keep that traffic on a roadpay that Has designed forit r.rhich Park Drive Has and hopefully in an arca uhere it could fit invisually and ue think that this was designed to do thet. t,e note thatthere are some fairly unusual uses that could 9o in thrt lrea. For exampl-truck transfer terminal is allouable by conditional use pcrmit and in factue did have a terminal developer uho uas looking to develop the site justnorth of there last falr. trre tried to discourage that and in fact did so -but that is allouable under conditional use and that is of course muchheavier traffic wjth djescl trucks. l.le're proposing that this thing belocated in an area that ure think is suitable for it. l.le think it ulasdesigned appropriately. As a State operated facility .and thc ordinencechange is r.rorded so that this onry applies to state contracted facilities.It's a one off type of project. It's basically a somewhat tough one to
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Iocate. tle felt that this proposal though Has reasoneble given thegujcellnes that have been established. One of the concerns we had was b,hat
happens tc thls site if 8 years hence this contractor loses the contract
and somebody else gets the bid. I believe there were tu,o people bidding onthe contract originally. The uay we've uorded the ordinance is if thathappens, it's their problem. That investment may well be lost because theonly thing that is allowable in that building is a Statc contracted vehicletesting facility, So r.,,e tricd to cover our bases in that regard too. Soagain I guess all things being considered, ure felt it uas a fairly
re8sonable site. It could be, r.reJ.1 r.,e had approved the Rome of f icebuilding which tras approved on the corner. Has not been built to date.This site was originally conceptually approved or revier.red at any rate fora 17,OCO square foot off ice building r.rhich this uould rcplace and r.le f eltthat the Rome site plan could be modified to accommodate it.
Batzli: HaE he agreed to withdraw the site plan?
KraLrss: He has i n conlrersations b,,ith us and I believe he's
and can ads{ress that specifically.here tonight
Conraii: Do you want to sPeak Roman?
Rom6n Roos: This site plan review process, staff did advise me of thatlast weel. eni !n vier.: of what r.re're trying to get accomplishcd, I have
Eccepted and tolC staff that r.re would 90 ahead and resubmit a smaller'builClrg cn tha+" trarticular site. There's about 2.25 acres left. I have auser in r'-::'rd and we are in the process of redrawing the site plan itself
and the pa:'kin9 fo:' same. I have heard a lot of conversation. this evening
and I guess I feel both sides of j.t beceuse I'm also in the park. I think,
and I har.,e .,o 9o back quite a ways. I started uorking with Systems Control
before chanhassen ulas even selected as a site lnd I had the opportunity tolook at quite a feu of the different projects that thcy have nour
accomplished throusrhout the United States and I guess if ure could have toldthe future as to r.,hat is 9oin9 to be required in the Strtc of f.linnesota, orin this case in Chanhassen, ue might have been able to address that issue.
But raherr I look at the facilities they've done to date, and I'm talking
about the architectural slyles, I have to sry that in the Chanhassen arearight now, knor.;ing hor^r staff and Council fccl about TH 5, thc corridor, snd
lookins at the transportation system. Looking et the traffic control ifyou will on CR 17. Stop light controllsd intersection thcre and I'm surcall of this is coming out in Dr. Braslau'a rGport, and it is my site. Thatis true. I'm vcry concern"d about rhat I put next door to that particular
facility. I think if it's done in the contcxt that I've bccn lcd to
believe over the last 5 months, that.you can make it a vGry dcsireable sitcfor another type of officc buildine. It has to be controllad. That is the
Pl,anning Commission's responsibility. Their chargc if you uill to CityHaII. to CounciI. end I think uith the propcr controls fron staff, I thinkthis can be done. It's not, !s far as Pl'tT and l{urphy l,lachine .cross thestreet and my building which is right behind it, yes f had concern. I'vc
thought a lot about that. There's just ngt thc economics on it. As Isaid, I have a 2.25 acre parcel lcft next to it. Believe me f'm vilely
concerned about that but I think it rill uork if it's held in the geise andthe different vieurs that I've sccn in the othcr states that Systcm Control
has accomplished in the past. I'm open for any questions you might have.
And ),/es I did ask for a resubmittal.
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Baizli: Do you want me to comment on the aniendment to the zoning
ordi na nce?
Conraci: Sure ,
Batzli: If we get that far I think ue should broaden the paragraph (c). Ngas or other fJ.ammable or parts are sold or stored on the site. I'd alsolike to take a look at making it potenLially d conditional use rather than_a permi'-ted use. If ure think that they should belong in the IOP, I guess
lookjng at bJhat IOP is supposed to be, I don't rea]ly view something thatgenerales a lot. of Lraffic as something that should belong in there.
l.lhe+-her jt's 4OO cars a day or 8OO cars a day. I t.ras actually surprised t-
see as a conditiona] use the truck transfer use as a conditional use.
Conrad: Annette,
El.Lscn: Let's see. I don't mind having Chanhassen be the site for atesting fecility ancj I real]y doub! r.lith so many drive up and thinds allarouni that jt's going to be reajly a pollutant to neighbors and thingslike the'-. I'm concerned about a couple things. One, this thing could betemporary. 7-e years you know. t,that do they do with them? I mean do you
have a history of ever closing one and r^rhat do they turn into?
Dennis PaImer : l,J e dcn'!. . .
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Eflson: And lihet sorts of things? Do they become drive-up banks oi r^rhatkind of things do they do?
Denriis Palmer: Generally, I think :hat this program and I'd ask Stan...Ithink the State does have the option to manage it themselves.
E]lson: So changes are it pretty much r.Jould stay?
Dennis Palme:: Like f say, the building is mostlt computers. Uithoutthose cornputers, the value of the building is minimal .
Ellson: But vou know it is a brick construction. Fairly substantiel andyet there js a potentjal of it beinE temporary as far as having thecontract renewed or u,hatever and r see the nice chanhassen saying ulellIet's work a way of making this building uork for something eise somedaylater down the road and I r.,as uondering if it'd never had been done before.uhat it could possiblv become and it really seems rike we should be lookins_at it short range as r.relr as lonE range. tJhen r look at it short range rthink it hight not even be this in 9 years. Then uhat could it poteniiallibe or have them ever become is one of my concerns.
Krauss: tiell t did discuss that lrith thc rpplicants on occasion because rhad the same concern uhen r found out the duration of the contract. Butyou know jt's clear to me as a staff person interprctting the ordinance, -the only thins it can become is uhat,s pcrmitted or conditional in theordinance. rt can't become a Hardee's or a gas station because we don'tallow those things in there. rf there is an economic loss to bc absorbedbecause the building is unbuyable as snything else, that.s the developer's -problem.
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E.llson: Okay, and then the J.ong range concern t uould have is the trafficand I'm not convinced as to r.lhy you chose this location out.of convenienceyet you don't r.,ant it in a location that we normally have convenj.ence typeof fa:ilities. Both Paul as r.rell as the applicant talked about that. you
didn't waht the same kind of place that h,e'd have u,ith convenience centeror a Hardee's or somethins like that uhich are built, as far as traffic forquick in end out yet this one is going to be a quick in and out just like aconvenience store or just like a drive up bank 60 Nhy aren't ue thinking ofputting it.where those other kinds of places would be? Can you shed some
I ight on thet?
Krauss: Yeah. You knobr I also uork uith the HRA and those other sites €retvpically in our central business district. Our c€ntral busincss dj.stricthas a precious ]ittle supply of land. Recently ue discussed thepossibility of a Hardee's behind the Amoco station and there uas a greatdeai of concern as to r.,,hether or not that was an appropriate site for ahigh vol.urne use. Arguably, squandering a few suitable high volume sitesyou have for a vehicle testing station uhich offerg services once a year topeople ir'.he communi.ty instead of once a week rs a fas! food restaurantmight dc, might be a r.raste of th6t site. I uould have concerns locatlng itnext to t'lc9onalcj 's for that reason or in the ltarket Square shopping centerfor thEt reason. Possibly those sites are suitable elser.rhere. I uouldthink Lhai the ci.-y would be best served though by protecting those sites.
EIlscn: Ye6h, I can understand the standpoint from our resources but ifresources asicje, I guess I'm thinking there are a lot more logical places
of quick in and out that people could potentially see from a major roadand...tee:irig ground or uhatever. I'm taking it from the fact that they'retesting year round right? You don't just have seasons of testing.
Dennls Palmel': There's a 10 monlh testing period. I understand thet mostvehicLes are not registered in January or February. If you buy a neu carit's reg j.stered in those months but then they'lI assign you. sticker for
another month. The...you need the inspection facility to run the test.
GiveF tha.-, there uould be very little traffic thru January and February.
The facility is based on operation of 10 months but it wiII be open 12.
Ellson: I don't think it's as convcnicnt in that IOP. I gucss I could seeit more in a business fringe or something like that or ]ike I said, more ofa convenience center typc location. And I guess f can't prcjudice it by
knowing that there's only like 7 sitcs left and f'm probably aure it's alot more expensive for an applicant to go into ! Plrcc there than it is
here but I don't think 95? of the proplc ate 9oin9 to be 9oin9 there are
Coing to knoul that it's casy to eet to. SO I guess I don't scc lt in the
IOP.
Conrad: Steve .
Emmings: I think r.re finally found somethine that belongs in businessfringe. No, I don't mean that. Let's see. As far as shere this might go
in our community, when you look !t !rh!t the IOP is. this doesn't quite secmto fit in a uray. And yet on the othcr hand, I crn't imagine uhcre else it
would 9o. I don't think it belongs in a commcrcirl rrca in thc central
business district or lnything like that but I guess t've come lround tothinking that maybe the loP is the right pllcc for it if it's going to 9o
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someuhe:'e. r've got a feuJ questions here. Tell me thaL this is a mistakeon Page 3 uhere it says that the rooftop equipment extends 33 feet abovethe r oof
Krauss: Inches.
Emmings: That makes me happy. Tetl me too, it says the planning
commission does not have to take action on the subdivision rrquest as it isa metes and bounds subdivision. It l.,i11 be acted on by the City Council.l,,laybe I uras just unaware of that. Is that the uay ure've alr.lays done those-
Kr6uss: Yes. I!'s a little bit unusual procedurc but that's the uay we'vedone it. -
ilT:'i:i. 3li';,ll*lt":".ff"ffilE,txl'ol'li.and brocks' ir thc subdivision-
Kreus:.: \'ci,'ll h6ve to do preliminrry plat.
Emrnings: Fine . on the eleva+,ions it shows .there are-'3 garage doors andone of ::er, h!ghe:. than the other tHo. Hhy is that?
Dennis Palner: That's to accommodate oversized vehicles.
Emr,inE;s: Then I'rn not clear on uihat, it bJas sort of my understanding thatue're l-,:v!ng mostiy cars in here and pick-up trucks
Denr'is falner: It's r,rehjcles under 8,500 gross vehicle weight. There wiI_be sor..:- vehicles uith refrigeration, air conditioners or something on topth6t c6n't f ir- in the lo foot door. G]ass trucks. l.Je always had one lanr
Betzli: So for instance there are step vans and construction boxeci +-ruckgthing: Like the! are going to be running through here as uell?
Denrris Pal.mer; rf thev're under B,Soc aross vehicle ueight and they're gaspouer ei
Emmings: tihen r read this r didn't have any strong fcelings .bout it but reuess the thing that's bothering me right nor is primarily thc commentsue've heard that people that have had expericnce lith th.3e stations inother places have said that traffic tcnds to back up and cari sii ior tongperiod of time and that bothcrs me a lot r gucss. rf r could bc satisfiei_that didn't happen, r think Id support thc plan end frankli t think it,simportant enough that it ought to be tabled and rc ought t;'find out whatthe experience has bcen in other praccs or ersc that ought to bo found outbetbreen us and the city council or Bomething bgcausc a Ioi oi crrG backed -up there are sitting for vcry. long. t nean lf cars are comlng Ln andgetting out in 2 minutes, I'm not too much bothcrcd by lt rcally. But ifthey're sitting therc backed up, thcn I think that,s iiffcrcnt so that 's a_piece of i.nformation thrt I'd Iike to have before I'd really fcclcomfortable voting on this.
Conrad: Tim.
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l.Jell, I uras kind of excited about this before I carne in he:e
How convenient this would be for me just to drive across theget- my vehicle tested every year. However', the more I listen to
there's no confljct with having a gas station in the :ndustrial.
ir your nind as a professional planner, if I can use thai- terin?
it, I was really surprised that anybody have negative commenls fron: theneighbors. I'rn glad you came in but I think it brings some issues to lightthat:guess I hadn't thought about. FundamenLally, I guess there's somequestions I had to kind of decide the issue. So I'11 start out urith whyisn't, can you shed some lisht on this other use that we do permit that's
most ljke a gas station. t,hen you're dealins uith retail people andpeople have a .requirement to do something r.rith their cars. They go in andlake the 2 minutes, about the same time it takcs to fill up. The frequencyof traffic on the average urould be about 1to 2 cars a minute and more carsat peak time. The question then is, why don't ue allow gas stations in the
I0P di str ict .
Krauss: Jf you had an industrial park lhat's ]arge enough uhere you're
selt gene:at,ing demanc, like an Opus II sort of situation, I thj.nk i!'s
very :easonab,ie to locate specific facilities.tailored for that Population.
oprrs II h.-:s 12 ,Oco people r,lor king there every day and there's people that
I!r,e tlrere. ue don't have anything ]ike that. l^le have 5,OOC employees in
the ci+-y es of the count that Sharmin completed last week, r^rhich is a
go<,dly rrumber but they can adequately be served by our central business
dis'-::c: ar:c I lhink our business community t,ould PrefeY that they be
servlceC'-:,ere.
Krauss: Yeah. tJhat it boils
appropr iate in our context.
dou,n to is f don't think it's really
Erhart: I didn't understand.
r.rhich is lhe f r inge commercial
Take a Look at the general busincss distrlct
development. tlhat's the othcr one?
Krauss: Highway business.
Erhart: t,lhat ulas the reason xhy this use couldn't be in thcre along with
gas slat ions?
Krauss: t,ell, there's not a specific use but if you look at phere those
districts lay in our community, they're in and argund the central business
district and the available sites are very limited. They oftentimes have
exposure to residential neighborhoods. As you recaII, t'lcDonaId's itself
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Kyauss: I don't know that I could anshrer that effectively. The IOPdistr-ici- predates me. I know there was some desire at points in the past
to offev services that L,ould be utilizable by residents of the industri6lpa:'k s,,.rch 6s res+.aurants, that sort of thing. Chanhassen has alr,rays beenrather restricti\,,e on where gas slations locate. In fact ordinance
amendr'en*-s urel-e approved last year that made it even more restrictive uith
an eye r-ouards limit.ing the number of intersections there found lhat, SoI'm afraid I oon't have any specific information for you.
Erhart: So you're saying you would cxpect a ges statiorl to serve the
peop.le in the industrial park as opposed to outsiders coming in?
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(lJas verv controversial r.rhen it first came in. That site next to l,lcDonald'sis presunably one of the possibilities here. It's available. It's on the-market I believe. It b,ould presumably generate lorrrer traffic leveL.s asure've hea:-.-4 tonight than t,lcDonald's uould. The other sites might be theones th6t we considered for Hardee's or the Burdick property on TgthStreet. All of Lhose are areas that the City has spent a great deal oftime, effort and money in getting it to coalescent to a real centralbusiness district offering services needed by the community on a daily ofr.leekly basis. I 'm not sure that this f its the bill
Erhart: It's required by the community isn't it?
Krauss: Once a year.
Erhart: Kind of like a dentist. you should 90 rnore often but it comes
do!.j:r to once a year . I don't know. I r.rould think that, I r.rould think ag:eat )ocation would be next to Garv Brown's station and then Gary could gove: and recru j.t business. Going righ! out the door. The businesshighway, Fast food restaurants. Automotive service stations. Do we have-a service station or an auto repair stalion in the business park now?
Kreuss: There's one in there by a conditional useautc repair use that ue have in the business park,
bac kgreund on that?
permit, Jo Ann, the
do you have the
Erhart I Auto unlinited?
Dennis Pal.mer: That's a different tasLing entircly. That's aParticulate matter. Diesel'S create dust particulatc. tte,icfor the testing resourc?s.
Erhart: Do thev test diesels nor.l someplace? rs the.re a...to test diesels-
Dennis Palmer: Yes. they do. Theyrre typically tcstcd at the factory.l,tost of the pollution from the diesel is inside the particulate or...andnitrous oxide is very difficult to do any repairs to.
test for
not equipped
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Olsen: It uras before me. The radiator store?
Olser: I don'L knoh.
Russ l'1urphy: That service center or whatever you Hant to caLl it js-..builcins. Thev have turo automotive places in there and the othertenants jn the building can't even park there,., you're going to mix 4OOcars ui:h serni trailers trying to manuever in here
Erhart: The other concern r heve with the lhing as ne go along here is acouple and I'm not sure, )zou know it's sort of described as a place urherecars come in and go through their 2 minutes and leave and at 10*, that,sonly 4 cars will be parked there so I,ve calculated that out lnd that's no-a problem but you knor.r, is somebody goinE to hrant to come al,ong and expandthe program to include diesels at some time? Hou do we knor.r: rsn't itn€tural? It's uell Eee, you've got your facility. The State's got a -contract u,ith ),'ou. rt trould be natural to include that tcstine ioo.
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Erhart: Do you have any facilities that test diesels anyplace that youorJn? AII sas? I guess if ue proceed with recommending approval on this,and I still haven't decided so I'm having a hard time but I think thereii
some other requirements we should add in here. Number one, I think ureshould strengthen both the conditions here and the ordinance to say thatthere is no outside storage of material or !,,aste materials or anything elseat any time. I think bre ought to specifically prohibit testing for dj.eselpowereC vehicles and I think h,e ought to drau, perhaps ue could draw on lheline how big of vehicles h,e hrant coming in here. It's one thing having
some cars parked next to us in a Iine but then sre have to have.trucks andjndustrial trucks lhat are allor.red, then I think there,s some very realIegitimate concerns on the behalf of the people from pl.lT so I guess Ipersonally think we ought to look at cutting the Iine someplace. Vans or
somethi ng where they're relatively quiet. Again, I think ule've already gotpermittec in there no retail sales. The other thing is t[at this is, as repoir:'-e: out before, this is under a 7 yeay or 10 year contract, I'm notsure i.:hjch, tlhat happens at the end of that perjod? I can see vjsjons ofthai gac s'-s+-ion doi.rn on TH 5 sitting there empty for many years after itxas :bancic,ned anC they real.Iy become unsightly then- I would lhi.rk thatsince this thing is under contract and there's not tha! nruch investnen! in
t!',e. f,uilding, that if this facility is not used for 1 ),ear, that perhaps
maybe we shcui,: require in the conditional use that it's dismantled and theLot b'e relurned to jt's natural state or sornelhing. I think this j.s e
whole ne.,L ar-ea and I think those Laws are Eoing to be changed ard updaledrapjcly and I think with the lack of investment in this facility, I_ think
we ought to be prolecting ourselves from a sudden change. And I agrie withBrian's or someone stated this should, if r.re're going to go ahead and make
an ordinance change, it ought to be a conditional use as opposed to aperrrilted use. So I have some concerns xith this. f maybe agree withSteve. llaybe we need to get a little bit more information. I guess my
f eelirrg is in general , aEain I Nasn't opposed to it but when you har,,e anarea and your neighbors come in and object to a change of use in it, Ithink there's a lot of meaning to that and so I'm real concerned about itso I guesa I'Il make my decision when someone makes a motion.
Conrad: So you're r.raivering? You could 9o either ray?
Er hart: Yes .
Conrad: I don't know that I'm goinE to be able to persuade anybody one lJayor another. Definitely I have no problem uith it being located in
Chanhassen. I think it's Ereat thst this site sould be here. I don't have
any problem uith pollution. It's improving pollution, I think it'sterrific again. The pollution lspect just docsn't ring Lrith me at all.It's improvins the problem. There's no diffcrence bct(een cars going
into l.lcDonald's and cars going into this site. I just have no problem b,iththat brhatsoever. The question in my Jtind is uhere it's located in
Chanhassen and which is uhat I think everybody has been sort of hammering
on here. Highway business ulithou! a doubt seems appropriaLe for me.
1oo,o0o cars a year seems like a hj.ghway business type of use and that'ssort of r,rhat it's designed to take. Industrial park, it gets marginal andI think we've gone through those exercises of is it the right use. I think
PauI's comments are trying to,.he's trying to find a site that'sappropriate for it. I think the bottom Iine for me right now is it's a neLJuse. It's a use surprising the neighbors and Tim, as you said, those neLr
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uses have to be reviewed carefully because neighbors kind of look at thezoning tc see what's permitted. I don't think it's a permitted use. I -thjrrk jt has to be a conditional use which means standards. So my basicfeeling right now is Lo table it and to have staff take a look at thestandards that would be applicable based on problems from othercommunities. I'd be very concerned if somebody said if the traffic isbacked up 3 and 4 deep, as a resident or as a neighbor business, I don'tthink that's appropriate. That's not what they're doing. And I also hearthat these are no! scheduled and that bothers me. f prefer to have
scheduled maintenance uhere ure have a day, an hour, uhatever and theyprobablx looked at that and found it's practically impossible but in mymind I think ue need the sLandards to drive this thing. I don't have a -problem being a permit.ted use in hiEhway business. I do have a problem
r.rith it being a pe:rnitted use in an industrial and therefore ulould
reco'Trir,end that lJe search it out. The governing or the methods of allowingit as a conditional end al.so having staff review any kind of controls thar,
Cl',e:rheese.! r.oulo' I j ke to place on it. I had one other question with thestaff report ancj it salc on page 5, under grading and drainage. Thearrljcant js F:opcsi;r9 to use Type 7 silt fence for erosion control to the-southeast. Is the'- during construction? Those are my comments. Ifsomebody wculd like to make a motion.
En:rr,ings: :'n gcing !o move that we table the appLication to allox siaff tdo twc, th!r9:,. cne is to acquire information from other communities thathave these fac!lities to find out r,rhat their experience has been. Andseconci)v, and it's related, to allow staff time once they've had e chance -to contac+- these communities, to deveLop some standards for this use as aconJi t !ona I use .
Conra.: fs ther-e a seco nd?
it.Erhart: I'lI second
Conrad: Discussion.
Erhart: Another thing that I r.ranted to
assume there's some o!her facilities in next time this comesCities area r ighL?
have thethe TNin
uP,
Dennis PaImer: tteI Ifacilities wiII open
not in operation.
January 1st.The program r,rill begin. all
Erhart: Oh, alright. So there isn't .any addresses that pe
EIlson: But Joan can Eive you an Illinois addrcss.
Erhart: There's no testing stations in the Th,in Citics that! nybody?
could go visitf
ls owned by
Ellson: ft.'s not reguired yet. I thinkbetureen now and going to City Council.tabled and come back.
we should be able to do thisI don't know that it needs to be
Emmings: Not if we,re going to establish standards.
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Conrac:
post u r e
Batzli:
hi ghway
IocaLed
If
busi ness
in?
we
nct
r,rant sLandards, ue should take a look at it. If yourto allow it, then you're right. Any other discussion?
of
or
your rnotion considering it to be a permitted
should it be conditional use in any district use in thethat it's
Emmings: I guess after lookinit does seem appropriate to th nith Ladd's comments t hat
Batzli: l.Jouldn't
u,ras I oca ted?
you ralher have these standards apply no matter r.rhere it
Conrad: Yeah, it should probably be conditional in both.
Batz.Li: I guess I'C like information on, I kepL on thinking that thisgoing to be Fretty much lircjted to common folks, car traffic but B,5OOgross vehicle weight, if that's the correct number, might be a lot ofdjf f ererrt construction type delivery vehicles and things like that asf guess I'd ]ike to know from staff, because I don't have a clear ideauhat kind of vehicles *e're talking about anymore I €,uess. l.lhat kindvehlclc-.s are going !o be going through this facility.
u,,a s
this I agree
and if .
at
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of
Enr,! -'rgs: Yeah . And that's particular ly important if it'sin the IOP.
gci n9 +-o be dcwn
Batzlj: tlell maybe, maybe not but the interesting thing is, there's goingto be 4OC r-r j.ps maximum someday and that,s true. If you do have a lot of)arger vehicles gojng through there it rnight but if thjs is going to be ape::nlt:e: use, f actually think it changes the reflection of r^rhat Ico::slcJer an IOP district because f guess I didn't consider a use like thatgenerat:r,3 t ha"- kj.nd of traffic to be appropriate before tonight and Jdon't know if I still do but.
Co-'rraci : That 's tough becauseat you' induslrial users, they
many !raffic counts.
of your industrial , if2-3 shifts and they're
a lot
have
you take agenerating look
that
Emmings: But you knoH they're a lot bigger Ladd. I Euess I uas thinkingabout that too. Like Rosemount, they've got, if they have 1,OOO employeesand they do don't they? So they're generating that kind of traffic but,it's also a hou many acre site
conrad: But what does that havc to do uith lt?
Emmings: t,lell I think it miEht have a lot to do r.rith it. I don,! know. Ilras first thinking gee, that's lcss than Rosemount and then I'm thinking
r,rod, that's a big site and this is just a little one. I think maybe theimpact is a ]ot more.
Conrad: If you put a
have some impacts.
lot of little uses like that together, then you may
Krauss: If I may,precedence sett i ng
that Eets
and as ure
into the question of
viewed it it 's not.
uhethcr or not this
You're talking about an
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one cff type of
new State Ia!4.
licensed used through the State of Minnesota to satisfy
Batzli: But you .know safety inspections might be next. A federalinspection might be next. You know it misht not be a one type deal .
Conr ad:but then
See that would uorrythe feds can dictate me. l.Jha! we're saying right
some other things and pretty nouJ
soo n
ieir 4OO carss there.
Emm i ngs :
foresee.
The proof is that we didn't foresee this one so I guess !,,e can't
Conrad: uell you know this type of'use has to be, it has to have a place.
l.le're trying to f ind a plece for it. That happens to be Roman's properLy,
tha+.'s f ire but you knoi^t, it's trying to sort.it in ]ogically where it,sbes'- se:- ve: in Chanhassen.
B.t"::: I do:r ''- know that anybody on the Commission, and I'm kind ofspeaking b:'oa.Jly here, is against having this type of-facility and evenpote-.tlall:" i:: Chanhassen someurhere. The question is r,thether jt belongs
r.rhe:'e t-h€)''re p:'opoeins I r-hink. I don't knou if you feel that. way. Thereis a co:;ce:-rr, : mean r.Je are drawing a lot of traffjc j.nto the area on roadethe'- ai-e alreacjy congested and we've gone over that time and time again.In the c orrpr er-,ensiv€ plan, that TH 5's a.Lready busy. r.re]I you've got 4OO
more cars a day. here. Small matter on a big ship maybe but hey, it,s 4OO
rnore tri.ps
Conr ac.:
Batzli:
Conrad:
Ahrens:
Batzli:
Ellson:
Conrad:
l{a}'be r.re should stop development.
This i.sn't development.
4tlaL ls .t Li
I:'s a semi-quasi public use.
Th6t 's developrnent.
But 4OO cars could come just casily r.,ith a new office building.
Absolutely.
Batzli: But f mean
tr ips .
i
are Lhey eoing in end out? Generaling a couple hundre,
Erhart: You know the fl.ip side of that uhole thing. l.le're rrorrying about
some 8,5OO pound trucks here and on the other hand we also .Ilow as a -conditional use concrete mixing.
8atz1i; Yeah, I saw that and the transfcr terminal
Erhart: So, the fact is it cxists next to this buildins is some kind of afirn that h6s trucks, I don,t know uhat they do in that buildins. Do you _know? They have trucks there !lI the time.
Audience: . . .It's construct,ion.{
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-t Audience: tiel I , they'regot a lot of. . .
out in the morning and back at night. But you've
Erhart: On one hand we'd all ]ike to have it to be some real pristine
industrial, office industrial park like Baker park you know but it's notthere. Pt4T's got a nice building. l.te have a nice building but then rightacross from us is a service station. T..ro service stations and acontractor's yard h,ith a potential concrete mixing plant so f don't know.This is a tough one. I don't see it as a big problem but.
Conrad: Again, I don't see it as aabout the f utJre . I 'm r.rorr ied aboutstuff goes in there,
big problem today . I 'm real ly r.ror r i edtraffic. I'm worricd about r{hat other
Erhait: The
wishy r.rashy.
one thing I said f'd never do as a Planning Commissioner is be
conrad: The motion has been made and seconded to table this and for staffrevies. Is there any more discussion?
Emmings moved' Erhart scconded to tablc action on thc vchiclc rnspcctionStation for Jerry Perkins of Popc Associations for further study of othcrexisting uses and directing staff to study this application as.conditional use permit. All voted in favor cxcept Annctte EIIson r.lho
opposed and the motion carricd xith e vote of 5 to 1.
Conrad: And your reasons Annette?
Ellson: I think that it shouldn't be in the industrial officc park and notthat they shouldn't be looking into that but I think they could have lookcdinto the typical neighbors and uhat people's reactions are by the timo itgot to City Council. And I think the other districLs are better for it.
Conrad: Paul , have r.re given you
Iike to see uhen this comes beck?
enough direction in tcrms of lrhat we'd
Krauss: I.JeII I think pe have enough direction to come back and get you thcinformation you're seeking. tlhat's not clear to me is if fundamentallythey come back in, let's say e,e come up brith revised ordinancc atandards.It's processed as a CUP, is it still going to bc objectionrblr from the
nature of the fact that it's on this 6ite in the IOP district? If it is,I think that the appliclnt should be ]rarc of that so thcy don't rdrstetheir time on it.
Conrad: I think therc's a lot of swing. l.lc're Salancing right nob, and
something that could bc a conditioh night satisfy me to r.y y.s. Andtherefore I don't think thcre's anyuay to rsad the Planning Commissionright nou to say if al.l the conditions .rc right, arc HB 9oin9 to vote forit? l.Je don't knoa but I think it's onc of thosc things whrrG wc have to
say it is r conditional use. tlhet arc those standards and if wc're stillnot comfortable that ue have control uith those standards in thrt district,then it l{on't be turncd doun. It's not. uastc of somcbody's time. [.lc'rcnot toying with pcople. [.,1e're taking r good look !t ]rhat bre think should
be done.
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Xrauss: And Paul, if I could interject. If you couJ.d get some idea onuhat the truck traffic uould be, it r.lould helP me. A car a minute isn't sobad but if you're talking about a lot of trucks, what kind of traffic are-
we talking about here?
Conrad: Okay. Mieht this come b.ck then Paul?
Krauss3 tlell it accms to be your intcnt to nherevcr it goes to process asa conditional use permit uhich requires publication so it could not bc at -the next mceting. f sould anticipate 4 lreeks from today.
Emmings: That's true if ue just lcave the public hearing open. Justcontinuc it?
Krauss: l.le have a publication requircmcnt for the CUP's and I'm not surethat we've satisfied that by posting it as a rezoning
Conrad: Everybody comfortable u,ith that?
Emmings: I'm comfortable letting him h,orry about it.
Conrad: Sorry for the delay but I think that's what r.le have to do. l.Je'lldefinitely make it on the agenda as aoon as ue can. Thank you all forcoming in. You had a comment?
Al fverson: I r.ras curious. There's no date given for the next place for -this to shor,r up or the next mceting.
Conrad: t,e haven't right no!.J. t,e're guessing not ncxt mccting. tre meetevery 2 weeks. Not next mceting. The meeting after. It sill bcpubl ished .
Krruss: l.re 'I I renotify.
Conrad: Neighbors r.liII be communiclted to.
AI Iverson: tJe did not receive the prcvious. f didn't htvc vcry muchsarning about -this mccting.
Conrsd: Notic. 9c' out to cvcrybody?
Kreuss: Yes. And ttr. lvGrson telkcd to nc about it lest. rcck.
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Al Ivcrson: L.at uhen?
Krluss: Last Hcek.
Al lvcrson: For mc it u!s...7 days isn't nuch noticc and IPauL..tclI us car l icr .
Krruss: The fact of thc mattcr is, ue,rc not cllirvoylnt.uhcn these things arc golng to como up and xe notify pcopl.that rte've becn adhcrlng to for ycars rhich etivcs thcm rbouthalf tb 2 neeks notice.
don't knor.r uhy
Llc don 't know
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P.c. DATE: 9/5/90
c.c. DI'IE: 9/24/90
clSE: 90-9 Site Plan
BY! A1-Jaff/v
STAFF REPORT
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2l Uetes and Bounds Subdivision to Create a 1.7 Acrefron a 3.953 Acre Parcel
3) Zoning Ordinance .&0endnent to A11ou VehicleTesting Stations in the IoP District as a
Peraitted Use
Intersection of Park Road and Park Place
APPLICAIIT:
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Testing Facility
Or,rner :Jerry Perkins
Pope Associates, Inc,,suite 300
1360 Energy Park DriveSt. Pau1, l{N 55108
EXISTING ZONTNG:
ACREAGE:
IOP, Industrial office Park
1.7 acres
AA'ACENT ZONING
l}{D LIND UsE:
SEIiER IND TATER:
N-Wetl.and-vacant8 - IOP, EUPAK
E - IOP; vacant
r - IOP; PIfT
Services are avaLlable to the site.
AITE CEARICTERIaTICA: The Eite generally dral.ns to the east andnortheast into a uet]and located to the north of thesite. Natural vegetation exists to the north of thesite although the naj ority of the site is coveredvith field grasses.
2000 LAND U8E: Industrial
LOCATION:
systen control/
stanley J. IczwickiSuite 208
5275 Edina Industrial.Edina, UN 553 4 2-
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BACKGROUND
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On October 4, 1989, the Planning Conmission revj.eued an applicationfor Site Plan Revier, *89-8 for the RoEe Office Building. The Eaneapplication uas reviewed by the City. Council and vas approved onoctober 9, 1989. The Eite ptan that was approved for Rbne officebuilding shoved a future expansion to the site ln the folxo of afree-standing L7,000 square foot officelnarehouse building locatedto the uest. The application being reviewed calls for a newstructure on the site of the proposed additional building. Thepriuary structure approved by the City in October has n6t beenconstructed.
Ihe application in front of the Connission today will change theapproved proposal. for Rone Office Building draDatically. - Theproposed vehicle inspection statlon site wil1 Lnvalidate lhe RorneOffice Building site p_Ian by. creating Eetback varj.ances, parkingvariances, and also there night_ be inpervious surface ' c-overagevariances. Therefore, to consider aCtion of approval of thevehicle testing station . is .dependent upon cancellatlitn of approvalfor the Rorne office Building site plin approval. Staff iis netwith Rornan !oos, the owner of the siLe. Uf.- Roos is fully awire otthe situation. He anticipates requesting approvar. for i surallerbut sirnil.ar building on the original site.
PROPOSAL,/SU}.O4ARY
On JuIy 1, 1991, the Minnesota pollution Control. Agency (UpCA) willrequire a1t vehicle olrners to test the level. of fryar:odaiUori lUcyand carbon Donoxide .(CO) that their vehicle plroduces. Theappricant is worling to establish 11 sites uithin €he sevin countynetro area of which one is chanhassen. The applicantis firm iicontracted with the state to provide testing se!+ices for a 10 yearperiod. They wil1. be the. sole provldei of r.q,,rir-a tesiingeervices. The chanhassen site is -one of the r.q"ried "trrice=areas under the state contract to adequately senre ihe netro area.The.procedure starts by sending noticLs to a1r c.r o.rn.ri io testtheir vehicres uithin 90 .days bf recelving that n"ti"J. - e studywas. conducted .by the. appricant and it is pieilicteil that 95t of thevehicres rrithin 5 niles of the slte uill be uslng that location.The site will be buirt to acconmodate 15Bt of th6 cai p-luiatronrithin the area. A car popuratlon forecast for trre vlai-igga ,."used .for that Etudy and a network vas bulrt to sui€ trrat- I c."=rrirr be tested by being driven Lnto the building and hooked intotest. eguipnent. Cars that fall the test arj requiree- 1o be
'erviced and retested for conpllance. servicing niii- rrot u.provided on-site.
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On site air quality studies wil.1 be conductedpollution does not exceed Etandards. Theseaubnitted to the ttPCA on an annual basis.
to ensure thatstudies uiI1 be
The. proposed building wilt be equipped rlth uachines that vi11Donitor the Level of CO and a suppfy fence vhich functions as afilter to get rid of CO. rhe propoled bullding wlll be locatednorth of Park Road of which accegs wil1 be obtained. The area ofthe proposed building ta 4,042 sguare feet. The parking area isproposad to occupy a portlon north of the proposed buildlng. Thesite plan is well designed. Access, grading, draina-se andutilities do not pose any probleurs. Soure niior uodification to therralkr.ray that links the parking lot with the building has beenrequested by staff. Site landscaping is generally of high quality,although staff is reguesting 6one changes on the ptan wfrere itabuts Park Road to screen vehicles entering the inspectionfacilit)Z.
The.proposed zoning ordinance anendnent rlII allow vehlcle testingfacilities to exist in fndustrial Office park Districts as aperaitted use. At the present tine, the ordinance does notaccommodate this use since it did not exiBt at the tiDe it yasdrafted.
The subdivision request is a netes and bounds subdivision. ThePlanning Connission does not need to act on the subdivision requestas it is a netes and bounds reguest. staff did incLudt theinforuration so that the Planning coDmission would be aware of therequest. The 1ot split will result in creating a ?4,168 sqluarefoot lot. There are no variances attached to either the site planor subdivision requests. Staff is reconmending that the requLstsbe approved subject to appropriate conditions.
GENERAL SfTE PIAN,/ARCHTTECTURE
The site is located north of Park Road. The building ls situatedparalleI to Park Road rrhere access is gained. parking is locatedto the north of the proposed builiting. Materlals used on thebuilding will be 4t x 8x face brick accented by 4r x gr accents.Prefinished netal overhead doors ulIl be used on the west, east andnorth elevatlons. The Dajorlty of the slte w111 be screened frorooff-site vieus by landscaping and a proposed berD to the south ofthe slte. The building architecture roeets the Etandards of thesite plan ordinance requirerents. The applicant is shoning theroof top equipment extending 33 feet above the roof lLvel.Equipment will be screened with Detal panels painted to natch thecolor of the overhead doors. staff ls reCorn:nendlng that theequiprnent be painted.to Eatch the color of the buildirig. picket
fencing is not considered to be acceptable screening. It- should bedesigned to be cornpatible vith the bulldting 6xterior. The
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applicant is showing the trash enclosure screened by a chain linkfence. Staff is reguiring that 100t screening be provided for thetrash enclosure area. It should be constructed of Dasonryconpatible vith the bullding.
PARKING,/INTERIOR CTRq'I.ATTON
The Cityrs parking ordinance does not address facil.ities such asthe proposed. The Dost sinllar operatlon 1s vehicle servicestations which requires 4 parklng atalls per service stalIs. This
use wiLl have 3 bays. The appllcant has Danaged a large nunber oftestlng facillties around the country. Staff belleves that the
nunber of parking spaces provided J.s adequate. The applicant ispfanning to have 7 enployees on site. Fourteen parklng stal.ls areprovided and one handicap stal1. Staff does not anticipate seeinglarge nuurbers of cars parked Ln the area. Staff roet with theapplicant and lras inforned that the rnaxinum tirne for a car to spend
on site is two ninutes. The Engineering Departnent has requesteda rnj.nor change to the parking area layout. ft is recomnended thata sidewalk or other designated valkway Eystem be provided withhandicap ranps to establish a safe pedestrian travel uay betweenthe parking 1ot and the building as shown on the attached sketch.This ualklray pfan would eliroinate one parking stal1 , however, thesuburitted site plan proposes 3 Dore than the nininun requirenents.
ACCESS
The plans propose one 25r wide curb cut to enter the site fron park
Road. The driveways are proposed to be built to city standards.
The radius of curbing at the entrance should be a uininun of 2Or.The nunber of curb cuts on Park Road was an issue for Etaff duringthe approval of .the RoDe Office Bullding. Staff argued against theplacenent of 2 iurb cuts to naintain traffic safety. Ultinately,the applicant rras allowed the tr,ro cuts but the vesteln entrance wasintended to serve both buildings being proposed. The uesternentrance is generlly located.in the vicinity of the curb cut beingpresently proposed. Staff finds the current proposal acceptablionly if the parcel renaining in Hr. Roosr contrbl it the cor-ner isallowed to have only 1 curb cut on park Road. It uiII have aaecondary access on Park Drive. An appropriate restriction shouldbe placed ln the chain-of-title of that Lot.
LANDSCAPING
The. landscaplng plan ls erell concelved. Staff ls requestingadditional tandscaping on the Eouth and sest of the sitl. Taroberlrs are proposed to the south and the southlrest corner of thesite. Those berns are proposed to be at a height of 2 and 3 feet.Staff is requesting that those beras be extended and Dade 4 feethigh so that they can provide better screening of vehicles waiting
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PUBLIC UTILTTIES
thei-r turn -for lnspection as -they enter the Lnspection facility.The betxs should be'extendpd along the park Road Cxposure and alo-ngthe west_ property fine to help buffer the adjacent pMT Eite. Undeithe revised ordinance, financial gnrarantees for landscaping andother site inprovenents are requirCd.
LTGHTING
liShting locatlons are i.l.tustrated on the p]ans. onl.y shieldedfixtures are allowed and the appllcant has dEnonstrated ihat therels no nore than .5 foot candleibt ftgfrt at the property line whichneets the ordinance requirenents.
STGNAGE
?h. applicant has subnitted a signage pl.an. One DonuDentidentification sign is proposed at ihe- wejt of -dntrance to thesite. The area of monunent sign is 35 square feet and is 5 feet inheight. The ordinance alLows an 80 sguaie foot display area and auaxirnuro height of 8 feet. The applicant must obtaln a-sign pernitprior to erecting the sign on site. One stop sign nust 5e lostedon the driveway access to Park Road.
GRADING/DRATNAGE
The site generally drains to the northeast and north into a wetlandlocated to the north of the slte. A snalt area of the southeastcorner drains to Park Road. The proposed grading ptan uaintains aconsistent drai.nage pattern with the preient condltion. Slopesalong the north and northwest portlons of the Eite appear to-beslightly greater than 3:1. This will require spiilaf slopestabilization neasures such as wood fiber bGnkets lnd qpe ffferosion control. A storm serrer systera consisting of tw6- catchbasins is proposed to be constructed and connected-to an existingtrunk storrn serrer extending along the northern border of the site]The najority of the site il prop-osed to be graded. The applicantis proposing to use Tlpe I silt fence or erosion controi-to thesoutheast and north portions of the site to ninlnize erosion.Staff is reconmending that fype III erosion control be used.
City seuer and water are avallable on park Road. Flre hydrants areavailable on the southerly slde of park Road. The Fire tltarshalindicated that those fire hydrants vlrl be sufflcient to serrrl.cethe proposed building.
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Building Height
Building Setback
Parking stalls
Parking Setback
Lot Coverage
Lot Area
Variances Required - none
PARK AND TRAIL DEDTCATION FEES
COI4PLIAI{CE IABI.E - IOP DISTRICT
Ordinance Proposed
4 etorl,es 1 Btory
N-10r E-10r N_157rE-glr
s-30 r I{-10 | s-49 r If-114 r
12 atallE 15 Etalls
N-3Or E-10t N-61r E-a4r. s-N/A W-1Or S- t{-59r
70* 49t
1 acre 1. 7 -aicres
The City ls requiring that park and trails fees be subuitted i.nlieu of park 1and. Fees are paid at the tine building per:nits arerequested. It Ehould be noted that a future sidewal.li vill. n6stlikely be constructed rithln the north boulevard of park Drive.The applicant should be advj.sed that no signs or other Etructureswil,l be peraitted uithin the City right-of-way.
UETES AND BOUNDS SUBDIVISION
The applicant is reguesting approval to subdivide 3.953 acres Lntotr,ro 1ots. The subject site wilt have an area of 1.7 acres. Theapplicant nust provide the typical utility easenents of 10 feet infront, 5 on the sides and 10 feet to the rear of the site as thereis an existing storm sewer line. The planning conmission does nothave to take action on the subdivlsion request as lt is a uetes andbounds subdivLsion and nill be acted on by the City Counclt.
ZONING ORDINANCE A},TEND},[ENT
staff is proposing the forlowing ordinance anendnent that uouldallow vehicle testing stations in the fOp District:
Anendnent to Article xxrr, rop, rndustriar office park District.Section 20-812 peimitted uses.
13) Vehicle testing stations authoilzed to undertake enisslonsand/or safety uonltoring required by the State of ltinnesotaprovided that:
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a)the operation is under contracted agreenent rrith theState of Uinnesota to provide these serrrices;
no repairs are perfotaed on ttre sitei and
no gas or parts are EoId on thi: aite.
b)
c)
STAFr RECOI,IMENDATION
Staff reconrends that the Planning Connisslon adopt the following
Dotion:
I. SITE PI.IN REVIEN
rrThe Planning Cornnission leconnends approval. of Slte Ptan Reviert
il90-9 as shorn on the site plan dated August 10, 1990, subj ect tothe fol.lowing conditions:
1. The applicant Dust provide roof top equiproent screening forapproval by staff. Screening must be of naterials coppatibleuith the building.
2. The applicant Dust subnit revised screening for the Easonrytrash enclosure conpatible vith the buiLding exterior andadditional. landscaping around the proposed dumpsters.
3. The applicant Dust obtain a sign pernit prior to erecting any
signage on site.
The appLicant shall. obtain and conply uith all conditions ofthe Watershed District.
6 Type ffl erosion control shaIl be used along Park Road and
added to the north and east portion of the slte. Sl.opessteeper than 3:1wi1l require rrood fiber blankets and l:T)e IIIerosion control. The applicantrs engineer shall subnit 10year storn flou calculatlons for the slte. Thls Bay regrulatethe location of the connection to the existlng storm sewerfacility.
A concrete industrial driveway apron wlth a minirnuro radius cutof 20 feet shall be constructed at the entrance off of park
Road. r'
4.
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The applicant nust revise the landscaping plans as reconnendedin the report to provide inproved screening. Provide staffwith a detailed cost estinate of landscaping to be used incalculating the required financial guarantees. Theseguarantees Dust be posted prlor to building pemit issuance.
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IT. ZONTNG ORDTN}NCE II,IEND}TENT
xThe-Planning Connission recoDrlends approval of Zoning OrdinanceAnendDent allowing vehicle testing sti€ions in the fOp Dlstrict. rr
III. TTTEDR.ATAL OP ORIGTNILLY IPPROVED SITE DI.IN
iThe Planning Cornvnission reconnends the irithdrawal of approval ofSite Plan No. 89-8 for the RoDe Office building, concurrl-nt1y wlththe.approval of Site PLan No. 9O-9. The applicant should file thenotice of withdraeal agalnst the property-it Canrer County..r
ATTACHMENTS
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Roroe Office Building approval.
Merno fron Charles Folch dated Auqust 30, 1990.SysteDs control. operation overview.site pl.an for inspection facility.
'City or:rcil lteting - Gr :r 23r 1989
lnstanc€ tlEt itrs turing ort 811 for tjle apaEtsrEnt Fople but I think tlris is
the tool tlat t€ have rrsed for all of t}te lEple to date ard lt prorides acnE
fon'r of Enctnrart r €vgr if t]Ere lBy be sore holes ln lt.
l{a}ror Grdel3. Anlt discrrssion? Bill?
OrrEilman Bo:t: HaU. I can see 1ou point. tt lo|Jds to rE though llke rfiat
ttE Cit:' is =1,irg is E set ou fees basd st esre foutrula that reall:, h.s
rcthing to do dtjl !r.rlet. ItrE Just t}e forrula. lthls is lnterestlng. I€rve
got lFraisals tbat lEople get tbat lre urder tlE Crtyrr rt celt in tlmes ard
.lpraisals E get r*sr E're tr:dng to b+, t}|e p[olErt!, that .re alrap over t]eCity. I don't krpu tp* tte apraisal process mlks but t kror it t yas !nillion dlollars off Jd I Buspect any of t}e rest of us, that tprd he ln lrre
doirg ttr srre thlrg Eo 1tr6. leg itlrBte procdure. lt sourds llke 3taff ls
aaylng rr just alid it tte sae way e atralrs Oo lt. lf tle Coryrll is trying to'
be consistent, I guess I voE to stqport that.
Dn AshrDrth: f|a:, LlBke one gr:ick r&ition c(DrE rt lrd that is, rc requi,re tire
eFpraisal fror the 6unt:' Ilssessor lrd th.t clarles rbout !s a part of the HRA
activities and *rat E Ent to do there is assute that tlEre ls golng to be a
certain rrinjnrlr valrr for tr:( irrrposes tiat rlU be usd. So lf there lE an]'
fourr of arr lncentive pr€r& tlratta going to be considercd, rhat ls the absol. r:te
floor. If !,ou lmk at tbat, !11 hers sa:'irE there lr, here ls the lbsolute
ruinirrrrlr yal ue tlat e rcufd be assignirg to thi.s Fopert:r. Irn rDt a.yirg t}lat
tlat's irhat orlin is goirg to take ard lEve as a finaL vale. I'n just ia:rirBIly:n:tial revien of tltis is tij.s ls t}le absolute ldnlnrr'r that rcrrld go 'l t}lat
P!otrErt)r.
ttayor Glriel: okay. Can I get a tEtion? lf rDt, I wlll trEke a notlon that rE
den:, tlE leqrest as so irdiclt€d ln tlc cover letter thlt e have.
ourrilrFan Dir0er: I'11 tecod lrEt.
SXTE ETAN REINE{ FtN INEI,SInIAIT/OEFICEAANEOUSE EACILITY' tsiRNflEST @RIER CE
iARX RqD NO EARK CC['RT, RO.E CAPORATION.
Euf trrarrss: ltr tEpl icant is proFodtlg to bul Id . 32.ggg rquatc foot oftle/
yaiehorr- buildirg !t tlE interrectlor of Palk'Rod .rd Prrk Pl.e.. Iher*qitionat hrl ldirg rtrorn Gn tle Plans co/bePtu!I1!, thlt suld be bdl.t tn t.he
future. tE tlDqht lt Es ! faltly nIl desigrnd Plduet. Brsically thy
resporitd to nost of tJE iss.les that sc rahed Q' at!!f. O" mly corun
uftil the proposal nas ln regardls to tlE erstern lccess on Palk nolat. Statf
belleve tltat it represented .'r Enecessary trafflc bazardl in tlEt tlle altr could
be basically adegu.tel:, send [t tlE trD other curb erE that hd alrcd}r been
proposed. tt ent to ttE Pl.nnltE &rrtrlsslql r,ltn thtr *veral reekr ago ard
tlE PlarnirE Cqrnricsicn agreed that tla general corEeirt ms a god c,!. lfter
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tEyor Otriel nared, 6urci1vq'ran Dirrrler recordd to d€nlt ttE reqrEst for
reirqbrusF€nt of 54,527.99 to lErltrge [ark 4ErtsrEnts on tie basis tlrat it
Fuld violate tlE :ntent of tt€ Strte unifou'r Bulfdirg Code valulticn tlbles
r:sed by the c;t:' of ctanhassen 1n detenrdning bdlding luation. A1l voted in
favor ard tlE rtrotion carrid.
exa,rinj.ng tle issrrs uith regard to tie curb c-ut tlpugh, tie:, ultlnately decided
that, the:r recq'nerdd .Fprc^ra1 of tte slte plan uith thlt !&itional curb cut.
fhe-v bl ieve that the traf f ic hazard ms tDt !s great rs had been exp(essed ard
tlE:, noted that tJE secord buildirg beirp proposd uith ro a&itional eurb cuts.
At t}le sarle tirre t!=re sas a gradirg Frnrlt requested through tlE Citl' 6r:ncil
that rras actd an ti€ @nsent Agerda recent}y prepared b1' t!: erg lneer lrg
departsrEnt. ltE rypI lc.nt rFsnrt Fegent to rrglE lt but tltat grailing prrtrlt
Itad ln there a still:tltiCl th.t tlEy cDuld leave thrt access polnt tlE!, rere
concerned lbout. SirE€ t}le Plarning G'nlssion rr:etlng rErve reassesged it.
lhe Erg ineer irg depalE lerrt has sa'E litsi tionrl lnfoEutlo'r. tts rgtEin corEern€d
about that curb clrt. llhe rcw lnfonrratlon that rt have lc thrt rDt otly ts it a
hazard drp to itrs pruilrity to Park Plaoe but lt dso lnter feres rith a cotple
6.ub cllts leated across the rtreet. 8o e're contlnrdng to rec.at&e'd that lt
be approrrd brt rp lre novitg to rec*rrrerd th.t tlE...eu6 cut be delctd.
orrrllrrsn Boyt: ttight I ask. this lc rc rtraight fortEld. tf E could feus
evelyth:rg m the orrb cut, Ilrryb rp could get out of herc m this 13slE Prett:,grdckl:,.
l€rk Johnson: Irn l,brk Johnson fra'r Rq'p tlveloFE rt. lrll just brirq rp a
corple of poj.nts if I can. t€ were tryirp to be Eensitlvc to the .ccrss onto
Park Road rlth the site. lt is a a !crr, sIlghtl], under th.tr'IErcel of lard
rrd m that rr have just trD points of lcoess to tlE slte. lits nere tryirB to be
sensltive I say in that E had tiD brildlng pads propoeed for the parcel lrd b!,
do:ng the ore further to tlE Est, e lrcorporatd tle orr drive into tlE trD
si tes . Ihe pL-oper t:l I ine cn hr k Rold 1s 690 feet lcrg . IE I ve got 390 feet of
dlstarre betneen the thD itrives. I€ lre lEf,ro,( jrEtellr 130-1{S feet frqrr tlc
corne! cur-b of Park P]ace Jd Erk Road !o r€ rEre trylng to be :ensltive. f€
th:nk that drE to ttE size of tlE prolErt:r, tlrlt it ls rcasonable. lits
anticilEte seelng the traffic Fttern on the Eite belng ae'ris aid del lvc[lr vrns
ard thirEs will enter tle curb cut to tlE !est. Pr,rll in behlrd tte trp
buildings ard t}en leave the propert), mto the hrk Plree rold Eo tlrt.s rcall!,
the nsin reason r€ rranted to have the drlve entering Park Place was for tlrlorer a'rount of rranewer ing tlst ttese tgrris rorrld! have to mke. 8o due to the
dlstances tetrcen .nd tle sl ze of t}re gropertles , rE f.el t-hat lt le rcason&le.I did not krpu of anlt cfif lict thst was across tlE 3trcet th€re. ltrerc hamensto be another surb clrt right tlEre?
Eul l(rauss: Iherera rctrull!, a doubl.e crlrb crrt across tl|e atreet. ttia,lhEtrated an tle aerial photogrrFh...
t{ark Johnsm: D !,ou hrve an}, questlonE tJut t crn anrer?
t{a1or Grrriel: I $)ess basically tl- mJor corEem tlr.t rE have, BllI lEntlonedthis ls ver:, Btjaight for*ard Urt in tlte Bt ff recotlrl€ drtlons t_hey rrc askllrg
that tlEy eljnlnate that eastern clrrb qrt m Park Rod ard pllce lt ylth r
lranewer ing area for use 4' parkeil cars ard redeslgn the rqrralninE crub 6rts as
regr:ired to facllitate truck turnirE norslenta anil to rduce tle ira& ot tln
taraining tar-k rbad ctrrb crrt fror 10+l to lcss th.n 5t. t don.t t rpu lf thltrsa real problBr witlr 1ou ln regardls to tlBt. tf therc l3n.t, t thinh rc can,
besides t}e otlrer cpnd itlons contalned on there ard ttn D:re lrout ve had a chanceto review tlrse Rs'ran. D:rou lEve any obj ections to tlD- cltter?
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Y"n Y":r- Ye-s tt. t€1or. ts lerk elrd€d to, the propert:r r 6 about 600 feetrror€ Pa.rk Road. ln that. park, tE ctrecked ever'phirg aiter-rqade the riport trefirst tjrrre u:ti! the Planni.ng 6'nrission. fn tfEt paik there,s foqr rrraior
99Panies. tnited, victor:r, e ard D:& ard all of tmee peopfe Uve'curb cutsidentical to rrine but e\ren- Eborter dlisiance to t}le cor,\er oi tie anrve.Park Place is a crlld+sac. A ded cul-&-sac. Itre lntent li so;rhaauueasonable *ren lou have a piece of property tlatrs 690 foot long tirt orEslngle curb cut carirg h .to *rylg" tb |:tentl* buildi,B e;d-["El*turueasonable. ls far rs the traffic pattern, t can ddresi itre-r',our,t oitraffic lou have on park
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Rod goirg through ife p".-t e.st /Est rDuld be ,Dgreater than t},at *r.ich is cg,ing i" tle naln drig co'.lng off o! hrk placlerhidr is the raln Etreet.csiirg in off tlr 5. tf i ttDqft tt ; hEa a-Liiti"Irttern, r rpurd salt definltely rE,d c:hange thlt bat as lar as a hazard r do ,Dt8ee that. I€ ewisior tle nain traffic t[at farX eludd to p,rld be cc,rirg off -.
of Erk Place ard off of t}e cq'nrsr drive betrren the tr.o building;: -t= a.tr"clos€st to the east rorrld b strictly- ! TB}l car eitlenie for tf,E-personnel
?f.king in tlre offlce departsrEnt in trrat b,ruding. r have i-very aiiircurtyuj th staff ,s oplnlon that there,s a traffic probie,r ot that :ite'.
l!a!k Johnson: trtieularl:r rfien I drove doln Erk bad thiB errcnlrg beforecorirB here just to l@k at tlc other drlves ard r t-uld tay tlut tf;e najorltyof tle on centered distanc.es of the drives dorn tlai. road, itr:cr, tr,eie ai. qrrit"!_feu, *ere 190 fe€r, l50.feet apart ard 1ou're lookirg ai lgS feet-iot-ircsizeabte.bu:1dJ.ngs ard being a frrlr us riet oft or oE rntiisecai;r-; ir= a"roads which are, the park prac€ rod is 'rot ! very ruj or rod at ttris-rci.nt.tlill rEt be adC ing a lot of traffic coErts to pari n;d.
cary lfauen: Park place frqrr t}te eng ineerirg FrsFEstive, rre l@k also uiti ane:re to the future !Ere. rhe closeness of trut- ouL c.lt is Frt of orr corrernhere. rn fact as recent T thi" nrornlrg mire tal.kirg wi tlr'a grckal" aJi"e.yservice res interested in Iot 6 at t}e errd of park plice for .i-,piE. E,
-trlXlrE lbout esrabllshirg a tarderr trliler route in tln ctty tfrat;i goirg tobe, i.f a;proved, rculd ca'e lnto this area here. Gn trEks ! day an6 I thinkth. activitv in t},at ars. has. got . lot of potenti.ar for trlffic iro -sp".tr:.y
si th the ctoseness of t}lat c{t to t}F cornei ard the fact tirai tt;io#Jit" t lccuts uas our c!rcern. you could rlo\re thrt thirE to tlE r€st ln oru o-d,niar ardlive ri th it or irdeed planning co'mission said to furt}er i.=t.ict "ii i.t" i"t},e expansion. r* courd tolerate ! cut r think ln the expansim n,o." 'tt; *corSd tolerate . cut .t thiB leation. t.ll read il.y rd'ril tht there ari otnergd'plgs of euts thrt are close to corners but t don.t thtnk ti.t rmuro-c tteJrstification r.tqr re sbould contlnrc to tolerate a uaa dtr[tton -1"-
rrE, ogiria,.Ihat ta otu rationale.
Rrun Roos: t$€n ]rou aruLlze lt frq'r a trlfflc pint of vler, lhat crlterla.aldEh.l t:pe of lccidert lre lDu tdkirg lbout?
Orli l$rlen 3 IeEt tlpe of *Et?
Rorrn Roas: Acciderrt.
Gry ltrren: lS r€rr lookirg at confl lctr. Iurning rD\rsrE lt confl lcts fr*r t]retrc driveuays rrd itrs best shorn r-$ress Ln tle graphtc. the aerlal graptric,frcnr tie crrts lcross the roail ard also frqr turnlng Fors'€rlts. trre tirrdg.r routethat is proposed for trlffic ls cctrirg off park placE to tlE rEBt &ifi park Ro.d
. City Srrrcil l+etirE - ":tober 23, 1989
arrl then rp lDdubon Eo rp e a lot of lto\rsrEnts going ott tornrils the tudubon
Road area.
l,tark Johnson: I gnEss I think in rrry rulnd lbout tlE dlstrnce r&rether the drlveis enter irg Park Rod directl:t across orE rnotlEr or tlEltr le 50 feet one *t:, or
lnother but tlE clo-ness in prox5nlty to all the &lvea dow'r Park Foad, tiey
cannot b that far off th.t therer s going to b that rn:ch of a rductim of
danger of cle car FUI ing m, turn:.ng or€ Ey rrd sre fro'r the oEposlte sides of
the rod ard just cqtinuirE to l@k rt ttE dlistlrEe bet$e€n tle drlves here.
nfiran RDos: O!:r. r,itrat ts th ridtlr o! Ulose rolds on hrk bad?
Gar:, tlalr€n: lt ElDuld be 35 I bel.ieve.
RdlEn noos: lhatis !t least a crr Jd a hllf pr rlde. Fr a passing lane lf
sorebody's tryirq tD trrm into It. I don't crre...
er:, t€rren: l& t lked earlier this cvenlng about hav!.ng to divert arornt' brses.rd thirgs of this natule. I guess iure. ltrs Banageable. Ihe questlar here I
thJ.nk is, ls tJE Eite ldegrately cerved ulth the trc crrtE lnd I grrss ln orr
opln,on F felt there r,as.deqr:ate aenrice sitttout havlrg to tolerlt€ further
clngestion at that lntersection and could indeed aryport a further eut to theEst in tlE exlEnsirr lf that suldl b a tr'.dHff .
RrnBn Roos: Wl t}l the lot like it is, 1ou have to, because of tlle odd rhape of
hr:k Placre rrd Palk bad, lt's very difflcult to t ke tle bui ldlng ard Eet itinto this area and nake it useable. d<ay? ltEtra one of tjle leasons r€ backedit off so tc have a lot of visibility effect fi the front of that buildlrg co're
dol,n hrk bad. r*'ve tried that Uul taing at several different locatlons. Ihesite res conflgured to ixt trD buildirg g$s m lt...tlE dr:, I bought lt butaftet.. . lte orE tiFre te had lt orer here *ricb Es r rtraight line lnto this
blpass area .rd rE shi ftsi lt aU t.tE ra:, orrer to this point. fhrtrs 1gg lrd
scFle {g foot over to that corner. llrrerD rD drive in that patk tbt ls t}atfar f ro'r tlte corner to tle butldirg. 29 foot ls c*rrron. tbrd I .n rDt r.:'trE
thatrs plecedent. lrtlr just salting I Just donrt s€e tlE Justlfiable reason ey,ng
you can't have a orrb cut gff of Par-k Ro!d. . ttrs at l'dustthl p!rk.
Courc: lnEn Bolt.: Itrs also a collcctor.
RErilan Roos: Bill , tlere ls 'D ordinrnc.s contolling thlt rt !11. tf there ras
an ordinance. sayirg t}lat !,ou orn have 35 foot or aS toot frqrr tl: conE, ErdgcFpl:, ui ti tiat ordi.narr.e but tlere'r rp ordlnance.
Col'EI lnEn Bolt: t thought t ttard Ory raylng r'pve lt frrrther to thc est anitl= could Live wl ti lt.
nrlsn Eoss t€ll I dial. I rhiftd lt 13 ft! rB I could BIU crr t.h.t rtt .
Cor:rrl lnun Boyt: If lDu thlft lt tD tlE e.st lrgur rc tb€n t@ cloE tD tbcorrEr I gather frq'r $hat staff is saldrg ani as far !3 your attlftlng tt to therest, I can tee $here lt laF rII, by:,our bulldtrg. tt aiDeare to do- ti.t prett:,nicely. thforturutel:, ltrr right acrogs frorr ! coq)Ie otlnr cxisting &lves. tthink st ff is Prett:r eonsi stent Ro\dl rfien tlryr re ar:rlr€ to us, Ie donrt llheto h.ve tjlat ttEn:r acc€sses in arh a tight area.
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@urcilrrEn Bo:'t:
live wiur it frcnr
So lf_RorEn posted that ,D lruck sitr.rE! or exit, coutd lroua staff EtardPoint?
- 6r], I€rren: Eran, have you l@ked !t t}lrt cut belrE on the east m park place
lnsted of m park Road?
no,"n Ros: Again, the site, r*Et I trted to do is have tlre access into tie
pro. pert-v fra! tlE prinarlt rod sr ttE site lrd thlt ls park Rod. tib rere notgoing to have a trrrk entrarce at aII becarrse t tnr gOing tO have r Cqrnlon.as€nEnt for this buildirg to acaess ttrls eite but-lt iegrd to b uE bestrrEthod tD g€t trrEk traffic in tj:re...ln this front rectlon so tirt LEs a rfiolesit€ to have tr uck traffic corirg ln m park place ard back out. itris tratlichere is e.'- traffic. It iE mt trrck traffic. you're talkirg aUout terunts,tlE ten&Ls ln that erd of
.
the_ bul rd irg , 1ou r re prcbabl:, tokirg !t t rd !a:,bd'lpark rrra}be 29-25 individ,ars havir{-drs FEiir,g i"'tt.-Jirice-a"p".L-,t ortlrat buildirg. tt is not trucx traffi;. ftpi ts co,,irg out-oi-tl--;-th;rEstern &ivaa1,.
6wri lnan &:t: VtEt are !,our lpurs of otEration?
Rdilan Roos: Tlpical office tours. A..gA to S.gg.
cou,ri han Bo:t: so itrs going to be dr.rtptng tie cars rbout the :a,p the tjreothers i.n that, iE tlEt ,hat :rou sere Eaylrg- Gary? Does lt rr,at e a aiffercrretlrat itrs c.' traffrc? rrn srre it rnrst-rrrale a Eifference. res-ri-dnge pruopi.nicn krprsire thrt it.s cer traffic?
Gry.i€rle,': r guess -ytL^? rDuril herp brrt -car traffic i: rrore casily nranagedI think at .n actess like that tlran truck traffic.
Or:' l$rren: It Lrc'[d irnprove tJE ritultlon.
6urcl lrran Boltt: tfiat a diplo'ratlc lnsr|er.
t{ark Jo}lIrscn: r likerr ttre dlstrncrs doln to EErk Drlve rftich goes lp to rH slnil Ardubon Trail ard tlE traffic aoing llke thie ard splittlr{ at tirat polnt toget onto rH 5. t{e r re rbout dead center there rc the trifflc rpuld be abirut50-5o eadr ey for tlp buslnesses dorn to uE rpstem prtr ttrey rcuro go oo*rIrd'rbfi to IH S ard the otlErs to the ast of us rcrrld- 9o io aif Drive-and takethat E:' rruld be lcaicd..
nErian Roos: ...tt r.s mvcr lnterded for tj.Eks ln ure flrtt plaoe becarrretraffic t]lat rDurd t rn arord vlt}l e trrrk lr very dlfflout. veqlaiiirarrt.
t6:ror Ctrrrj.el: t thlnk rFtv? F6abl!, di3eEsed lt crorgtr back ald forttr lrre.
burcilnran lbrh'ran: r don't see e problarr rrd t Fuld thir* to n: ue lqlc lato have it ecross fror another trrtrance brt t donrt E lt ,.! as a lrobigrr brt tdto ree lt beirg klrd of e void for this butrdtlrg if lt h.r.t tr,e.. -tii-il r,r, .ferce sitter.
oorncilrr,ran Di'rrer: t guess t appreelate rtlff rr conslderatlon t>re erd rthlnk tlE:, have rrrore of rn exiErt oplnlo than r a!o. t€ did rpgrori-ti s, tre
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nqrEn noos: ...tlE teason for ttp grading prrqlg -= inltiru:r e rrre trldng
to get this thirg grourd breakirg... t{tE l lt becae obvlous th.t dE tenrnt
clul.dnr t get ln the grouni that quick 60 Erre going to stlll lt l'ltll tprlng sotlr grdirg process...Eo tjrrtrs ttE prinrary reasm there Bsn.t.nlrbod:r presentrt that tine...
City 6uril ltetirE - ttober 23, 1989
cDns€nt agerda uith the eurrdnation of tJre eastern o:rb crrt so r ElEss rrd stickYi$ that.
llayor Gnrlel: With?
Courrilrs'ran Dirriler:
consent agerda.
kp the clrrt cut el lmiruted like re agproved in our
tElDr Clniel : okay.
lialor GIriel: lbw about lf * ere to just post that for cars only anit rr
ta rrcks?
Gr!, Iihrren: I rras going to arBgest, lt dhF ds on tlle tirdng of Rqll.nrs
situation but if he's talklrg about spr irEtirrE constructlon, he FEntion€d 8qlE
otlEr altelnatives for the building 6ite tlEt he hld gone through .rd I dtonr t
krow if Plannlrg iEs lookd !t tlDse 1n tlts IEst but trd be lnterestd to l@kat those al.so to better Eterstard the restreints th.t lEis t lkltrg lbout for
other al. ternate cl:rb olts here. lt deperds cn the tlqirg here but I rpuld
sJrggest that Flalbe it,s appropriate to table the lten or rlprove it Eith the
urder stard l rg that rErLl resolve this curb cut lssue.
ttayor Grriel: I tlink I'd like'to Jnst !s aoon rpprove lt vtth resolvgrrent
betr€en tlE trc of you. Beti.een rtaff ard lourselves.
6urci lss'ran DirtOer : Alright . Itlat i I fine witlr rre.
&uncilrqan Bo:tt nc,ird, &urcilur'ran Djrriler t€|eotdd tbt SlBe Plm Evter{ 189-8for the ncFle Offic€ E:l).ding be agproved sithout variarces a:bject to tJlefollouirg corditiorrs :
l. Eovide trash itorage elosrlcs hrift stttr nrterlalr co[ratlble uith thebuildirg oL atore all trash lnternally.
Boof npt:nteil Iwrc cgrlFrat dtoulal be gwltld rlth I rcreen constnrtcd oftrEter:als cc'rpatlble uit]r tne-butldlry
- cttcrlor. ft.ils rtpuld be t,tepardfor st ff .Iproval pL-ior tD City 6rrEt1 revlo.
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3. ItE develop€a ylll uork ytth UE Clty EE tmcr to rcso\re tlE crrtb elrt
lssrres.
Evise the landscaping pl!,| to lllustrrte EedirE c roddlrg of th tbse IIbuildi.rg area. fhls are 13 to b kept ln a mlnttlnd corditlar untll
constrlEtl o,l oocura.
Project llProv.l by t}e Rlley Eurgltor:r Blrrff Geek tibtcrstred Di3trlct.5
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8 l& a fire hllrant cn the Frking lot lr1.rd leatcdt off ttE rDltlreEt
corner of tle brildlrg.
IrtiliE corErete er:rb ard g|l,tterutl dtesign tt to colrEt to lrr{rrova.tEnts in
Park Place tjrat ril1 be lnsttlld by tlc Cit3r. fiE rr| .clti tional eatch
basln at ttrc Park Plagl ctrrb ert. AIl rtorFr reuer leatcd in grbl tc
caEE'Ent or Ro.{ sball b rclnforcd corEret€ plEE.
Eosion controt s are to be ln place grlor to rtlrt of Frk o'r the titc rrdtlajnt lrEd until lite restorrticn ls edrplGtd. fddi ttonal .rosion control
Tsy be reqrited almg tb sorth ltroFrty lfnc !y staff to IrG^rGnt Gro3lonlnto Erk Rod.
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9. Proviab lightlrg anil rigrnage lhtailr for .t ff rqrlcu.
lll votd ln favor rrd tJD rroti.or carrld.
olrilmrn Bolt: 6u1d I !sk, could E go rlght to 12(b)?
Eurrlls'ran Diriler: tiII sec-ord that.
U(B) ONRY EAR|IS WENAID ALIERATION, SENIOR PIA}IIER.
Jo l,Tr OlEen: lrtl there puld b rD dleclslonr rqldc tsrtgtrt. llro, thcrc rrc
rcsidents UtD dso alo rDt Uke ltlrt lt trppcntrE out therc.rd ytrb to ae th
vegetatiol rgrlain t6.
Jo lrm Olsen: llhis yas brought ln tront of the 6urc11 tonlght bcelu.E thcrc, s
Deen scne activity ort in Orlrlt hrttrs rfii.ch tgdcally suld requlrc the
resldents to go thror)gb a LEtllrd dteratim pnrlt to rq'ror: ttr vcgetltio1
arourd tln pord ing areas. ltE *rolc IxrFoEe for tlrit Es Jult to, I krDr Uut
tJ=y wre goirg to be contlct ytth tlE 6urc111 Bs Just to brirg tlar rp to
date rlth l*Et Es bappenlng lrtt to rllos t]! rcrld€rits r c{rar.rcc to qr.k. tttff lt't reall!, Ilte a'ril tlrls could b a rea113r lorg ttlr D ttll klrd o! op.nIt g to for thsr b:t cs-ntillly rfien Orrry ter:r'rs Ert through the mHlvtrion
prooess, tlE:' dso vent through a Etllnat rltcrrtlcn pelrrrlt rrd tbere ulrc rq|e
lotd Olss B retlard atcai thlt Erc &dged ard d.lo.Bd to be &cdgd !n! u*d
as podirg .reas. ls l)rrt of th.t, tlDse lrers hlvc trken .,t guat ltlo of eEtl.rd. they rcr havc cattall,r ani! otJrer Etlard vcgetatlon. ttrprc har bcn
rqre rg,roval of tiat vcartltion. stlff h.s cont etd the rcrldentr atltirE tilt
t:hey rculd hrve to Eo Uuorryh ! Etl.rd alter.tlon penrdt procc$ tor that to be
IE fittt€d. tiE urderstlnal thelr rcarcnl'E for rantlrE to r.ro\ra lt lti to rllow
vlens into the pcnding lreas or to rllou t.hal 1p be us€d rtlrcly lfka h t t
vlntertlrre ard e aclopnldgc t1h.t therc nlght b r co'{lrqrd = that E clr oqrato rcrking dl brt tIEy do havc to go throqh tlE tEGss b.cruE $!t tr
DaSpenlrg rDu ls rDt tlp corrcct Ey.rd ltla taqovlB . lot of tll eegetatldrrd taklng !H!y tIE Elefitj of tJE .rcr. 8o vlth that I grltt trll Lt tJltl,btErrrr yur rarlt to (b thh. It!b: hrvc o- EpkctrE.or.
Itlor Ctrdcl: tEtrr r&!t ltd rctll!, ltkt to &. On E h.va a alDbstataolrts thir?
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NEGI'TAR }{ECTII{G
GtoBm 9, 1989
9. Desolution 189-109:
Bongatd ItoFrEr.
6et Brdget tbrtsession, G&er 15, 1999, Z!3g p.$. rt Ctty ttll.
lll voted ln favor ard t]re rnotlot carrld.
Hayor chdel ca1led tJre -rreetlrE to order at ?:35 p.n.. itre rreetrrg hs olEn€dYith the pledge to tne FIag.
&Jl,tIL IOAERS pRESEII: _ tE:rot Clrrdel, Or.rrilrrran golt, G,,EiIJian lbrts,En,6urEilur'En Dhiler ard OrrEilnan ,fohnson
SBFF PRESEIIT: tbrl tslrrcrth, _hru Rr.uss, Jo tnr Ollen, (trry trbrren, IDrlsletsg'rar sdd erhardt, Jirrr ch.ff€e ara avi ir"-.qprr'crtv rtiorrci -
IPPRGnL a looa: ourrlrun Jorrruon rod, ourrrna.an Dirrrrcr ".csded to
:?ll?= glt:g:d:. ,itt. p: forlortrs dittons: 6urcitnan-Boyt-_ita- t,ois".rss ltcntiet lErps, [ake.I,q, lccess, ,..d pleasrnt view 4eid control; l{a}orct,riel ented to di.scuss Evrd Hladla's iesignaiisr-r;--tL;i;-G'**
co'nriss i or; and corrcibran Johnson snted to-ttiscuss tr,e ,racar,cy m irresouth*st rGtro rtansit carrission. bn rshrrth trg an aar,insLaiion-Presentation, -an rpdate on t}le pru.l.s r acBrj.rj.tlon. AU voted in lavor lrd tllelption carrled
REC':ICLING PRIZE DmWIIE: t{.},or Ctrdel drery 5 nrgrEs for the reclcl lrE Frizeclrauirg to sput tlle S5SS.OS pot lnto S:,0g.gS G o"h of tl> nares.
co,sE$T AGEIOA: Ori*i hman Dinler no';ed, orvrilnan trbrhrun aecsdeit to
lpPlote tlE.fo]lodrE consent 4errla ltats pursu.nt to tl,e City ,{r;;;r;tecfiFErdati,ons:
c' nesorution 189-108: tpproval 0f Fesolrrtl0n for Jolnt @IErltrve proJectrlth Riley-B1uff- h:rglrory cek tibtrrlhed Oietriet, ta*-Riicl, ,6iit"*ro"Prograq.
al. 4?rove Gadirg peutdt, Ere Brildirg Site, tasg hrk Elat.
c. Approyal of Bills.
f. City OrrEll ttinutes dated S€pteder 25, l9g9
PT":nq GrmiEsiol t{inutes_d.td Septanter 29, l9g9Erk and Recreation &rmiesion ttinutia aaiea-septo'ter r2r 1999
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VISIIIR PRESEMATIoN: cc}sfl.I}IlI[ CEIIIER IAsx PoRcE.
lori Sietss'ra: ls Etltd ln thc nrterhl th.tri in lDtrr lrctet, the Grnr:nlW9.::,3"I_F?T f;.r:anniry to.tlke trre:.iiirairqs ard the res€arch to thecq,'orun1t!' ln ccrmunit!' ry!1r8. rn th.rcxt coq e-of roontr,r.--zt rigir r. toget lesiderit:rl ingrt cn lssues rcaarding tlre &rnyrltv oer,to. - rt l.'iL r"
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C.C. DATE: Oct. 23, 1989
CASE NO: .99-8 Site plan
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Site PIan Review for the Rone Office BuililingPROPOSA!:
LOCATION:Intersection of park Road
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Northwest Corner of theand Park place
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Rome Office Building
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PROPOSAL,/SUI{I"IARY
The applicant is requesting Bite plan approval to construct a32r400 square foot off ice,/warehouse building on a 3.9 acres sitelocated at the intersection of park Roail anil park place. Asecond 17,500 square foot building is conceptua[y illustratedfor ilevelopment on the 6ane Eite ilthough approvals for it arenot being requesteil at this time.
The site appears to have been graded previously andt contains nonatural amenities worthy of preservation. the single storybuilding is attractively designed. Office areas aie orien-tedltowards the streets irith truck loading docks concealed in an areaalong the less visible north elevation. Exterior naterialsinclude brick antl rock-faced block rith a staniling seam netalroofing used to hi9h1i9ht the rounded buildting coiners andentlances. Parking provisions exceed orclinance requirements.Staff is concerned with the proposal to have two curb cuts onPark Road due to the traffic volumes that the roail carries andthe proximity of the eastern curb cut to palk pLace. fie alerecommending that the eastern entrance be deleted and believethat the building is adequately served by the remaining twoentrances.
An extremely well developeclpublic utilities are availab
reasonably simple. There arproposal .
landiscaping plan has been provided,Ie and drainage provisions aree no variances associated eith the
The Planning CoNnission reviewed the proposal on October {, 1989.Staff had recomrnendeil approval subject to appropriate conditionsincluding one in that the eastern curb cut on park Drive bedel.eted. The Commission generally concurred with the staffreporti however, they ultimately concluded that the curb cutshould be allowed. They dlid not believe that it constituted asignificant hazard and believed that the Bite plan was consistentwith staff's intent to limit the total number of curb cuts ainceit i11ustlates serving the second buildting with no new entrances.The Cornmission recornmeniled approval of the proJeet rhile deletingthe condition relating to the curb cut. tileeting ninutes areattached.
On llonday, October 9, 1989, tbe City Council authorizedl apermit for the project on the consent agenda. Ehe reportthe Engineering Department (attachedl) stipulatedl deletioncurb cut for safety reasons. Since it was on the consentthe issue was not pursuedl by staff or the applicant.
Staff is continuing to reconmendl approval of the proJect butreservations regarding the curb cut remain. An update Demorandumfrom the Engineeri.ng Department (attached) lndicates their con-tinued opposition to the entrance and provides further docunen-
gratting
fromof the
agenda ,
Rome Office Building
October {, 1989
Page 3
tation for the position based upon the location of existing curbcuts located across the street.
Based upon the foregoing, staff ls continuing to recomnend thatthe eastern curb cut be deleted. If the City Council ultiEately
determines that the curb cut is acceptabler condition 13 neeils tobe nodifiett.
SITE CHARACTERISTICS
acres site is locateil at the northrest corner of thetion of Park Road and Park Place. It appears to haveensively graded in the past and contains no tlees or. Natural drainage is into a low,/wet area located off-the north. The site sl.opes down from west to east withpoint of 945' found near the northirest corDer of thethe low of 923 | founil along park place.
GENERAL SITE PLAN,/ARCHITECTURE
Ihe 3inter
been
eetlasitethe hsite
The single story off icelwarehodesigned. Exterior materialsfaced block above. The roofliprovided by a variety of stepsvations and standing Eeam netaentrances. Extensive glazingpronote an office ratber thenhas conf irrned that the exteriobuilding elevations except ins
use building i6 attractively
includle brick skirting with rock-ne is flat, however, interest isincorported into the building e1e-1 roofing over building corneis andon aI] visible elevations tends toindustrial lnage. fhe alchitect! treatment will be utilizedl on aI1ide the loading dock areaa.
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The site is retangular with the longe! face orienteilalong Park Drive. park place is the more ninor streedesigned as a cu1-de-sac to serve several industrialtbe 32,400 square foot building currently being propI7,500 sguare foot building that is conceptuaffi iffuoriented south a1on9 park Drive. Truck loading areasalong the north elevations Lrhere they will be concealbui.lding with further screening provided by the factare recessed.
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and isot6. Bottr-
sed and atrated are
are placedil by thehat the docks
et
No detai,ls are provided on trash atorage facilities. Exteriortrash. storage areas shoulil be providted rith encrosures built ofmaterial cornpatible witb the building. Alternatlvefy, trisfratorage could be re8tricted to lnternal locations.
No details are provided on EVAC_eguipment screening. The eguip_ment lri.rr be roof mounted. staff wourd prefer to f,ave the icreenconstructed fron naterials compatible with the building exterior,by utilizing-tbe standing seam-neta1 fo! exarnple, rattrir-ttrenenploy a wood screen fence. Details acceptab-Ie io the Cityshould be worked out prlor to City Councll review.
Rome Office Buililing
October 4, 1989
Page 4
PARKING/INTERIOR CIRCULATION
Parking provisions for this type of buildling are often difficultfor staff to determine accurately. The reason is that the inter-nal division of space is flexible since it is based upon the
tennants needs. Office and manufacturing generate large parking
demands while warehousing does not. Therefore, it 1s our pre-
ference to provide a 'cushion" of adilitional staIls if possible.
The plans illustrate the following:
A !ea Parking
USe
Off ice
liarehouse
10 ,500
39 ,400
s.f.s.f.taIls,/per 1000
tal1,/per 1000
Regui re
P rovide
Phase I
otal 72 6ta11s
5tl stalLs
6.f.
6.f.
iiTdI
9
23
,000 s
,400 s
f
f
the site can be ailequately served by the sestern curb c
Roail and by the Park Place entrance and are recommendin
eastern curb cut be eliminated. In its place a paved afacilitate backing movements of parkedl cars thould be p
Reguireil Total 51 sta1ls
Provided 72 stall6
Based upon the analysis, we have concluileal that parking provi-
sions are acceptable since ordinance requirenents are exceeded by
a large margin.
Internal circulation rorks well and no noilifiiationE are propoBeil .
ACCESS
Three access points have been proposeil , two on Palk Drive and one
on Plark PLace. Park Drive is a through Etreet that functions as
an industrial collector. Park Place is a ahort cul-de-sac
eerving the area that is scheduleil for upgradling.next epring.
Staff is concerned that the eastern curb cut on Park Roail eouldl
cause traffic conflicts with Park Pl.ace and normally attempts to
reduce the nultber of curb cuts on buBy streets. tle believe thatut on Park
9 that the
rea to
rovideal .
Pha6e I & II
Use
Off i ce
Warehouse
A rea
3s1s
Total
32
{0
Total
27
24
Park i nq
3 sta]ls,/per 1000 s.f .1 s'tall/per 1000 s.f .
&ighting and signage details should be proviried for staff review.
GRAD ING,/DRA IN AGE
The site naturally drains towards the north and this flow will beperpetuated by the current proposal . Ihe off-site ponding areathat will be utilized was sized to handle the uater- that ;i11 begenerated.
Prelininary plans are gener
along Park PLace should bethat will be insralled by t
To acconplish this an.dditcurb cut is required. Thefor temporary use only sincnated rrhen the street iB.up
y acceptable. Storm sener locateiligned to connect with improvementsCity *hen that Etleet is upgradieit.al catch basin at the park ilacevert under the driveway is to behe roadside ditch will be elini-
iledl .
all
des
he
ion
cu1et
9ra
All storm eewer located in public easeeent o! Rovr should be burttpith reinforced concrete pipe. All parking rot curuinj-should beconcrete and designedl to nerge rith the cuib line in tfre ROw.l{atershed District approval is required.
Grading.plans are generally acceptable. A large aEouDt of rorkls requileil to Loner and flatten the site. Er5sion contiol iaproposed.al0ng the north construction .line. Adilitional Deasuresare required along the 6outh uhere eaLer nay flow into-ttre--Street.
PUBLIC UTILITIES
citfir yw
eh ater and 6ewer ale available in park Road. An ldditionalydrant is needed to adequately serve the eite. It Ehould
Rome Office Building
October 4, 1.989
Page 5
In additi.on, we ale recommending that the remaining tiro curb cutsbe rtidened to facilitate truck turning novements. we are aLsoconcerned that the grade on the sestern curb cut exceeds 10t.$Ihile no official orilinance standlaril exi6ts, we believe that thisis excessive andl could pose a traffic hazard. The grading planshould be revisetl to reduce the grade to less then 51.
LANDSCAPING
A very high guality Landscaping plan has been developed. Theplan provides generous anounts of landscaping in setLack aleas,around the buililj.ng foundation and on parking lot islands.
The area that is to contain the second phase adilition will begraded during the initial construction. ?his area should beseedeil or sodded and kept in a naintained condition untilconstruction is proposeil.
LIGHT]NG,/SIGNAGE
Rone Office Building
October 4, 1989
Page 5
PHASE I
COI{PLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE - IOP DISTRICT
Ord i nance Proposed
Buildiing Eeight
Building Setback
tl EtorieE I story
Parking Stalls
Parking Setback
N-10 | E-25 i
s-30 , tf-I0,
72
N-90 r E-150 |
s-30 i $t-250 r
I03
N-f0 r
s.30 I
E-25'
w-2201
I
Lot Coverage 708 ?5t
variances Requireil:None
r First phase haril surface exceeils the permitted Etanilard,
however, no va!iance is needed 6ince Phase II currently lemains
undeveloped. As currently proposeil both phases will result in71.5t 1ot coverage which also exceeils the ordinance standards.
Vlhen the Phase II 6ite plan is reviewed, it is expected that thisvariance can be eliminated by simply renoving several parkingstaI1s. Since the number of stalls far exceeds the ordinance
standards this Lri1l not cause any problems.
STAFF R ECOI.ITI ENDAT ION
Staff reconmenils that the Site Plan Reviet 189-8 for the RomeOffice Building be approvedl uithout variances subject to thefollowing c6nditions:
t. Provide trash Etorage enclo8ures built with naterillE com-patible with the buildling or Etore all trash internally.
2. Roof mounted H\IAC equipment should be providedl with a acreenconstructeil of materials compatible with the buildingexterior. DetaiLs 8hou1d be preapred for staff approvalprior to City 'Council revier.
Eliminate the eastern curb cut on Park Roadl anil replace ltwith a maneuvering area for use by parkedl cars. Redesign the
remaining curb cuts as reguired to facilitate truck turning
movements. Redluce the glade on the remaining Park Road curbcut from 10+t to less then 5t.
3
be located on the parking lot island foundl off the northwest
corner of ttre buildting.
N-10' E-25 r
s-30 r I,t-10 r
Rome Office Building
October {, 1989
Page 7
4.
Project approvalDistrict.
Revise the landscaping plan to illustrate seeding or soildingof the Phase II building area. This alea is to be kept in imaintained condition until construction occuls.
5 by the Riley Pulgatory Bluff Creek Watershed
5.Utilize concrete curb and gutter and design lt to connect toimprovements in Park place that will be installedl by thecity. Add an additional catch basin at the park plice curbcut. All storm sewer located in public easement or Rotll shallbe reinforced concrete pipe.
?. Erosion controls are to be in place prior to Etart of sork onthe site anil maintained until site restoration is completed.Additional erosion control may be requiredl along tbe ;outhploperty line by staff to prevent erosion into iark Road.
8. Aild a fire hydrant on the parking 1ot island located off thenolthwest corner of the building.
9. Provide lighting and signage details for slaff review.
ATTAC H}IEN TS
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2
3
4
5
6
7
8
Irlemo from Dave Hempel dateil September 27, I9g9.Ilemo from I'tark Littfin dated September 22, ]-ggg.llemo from Ron Julkowski dated Septenrber 27 , lgg9.Site plan details dared Septembei ?, 1989 isheets A1 ,October 4, 1989 planning Connission minute6.Dave Hempelrs lette! to Roman Roos ilated October lg,Update memo from Dave ltempel daled October Ig, 1999:Site plan dated September 8, 1989.
Ll andl Cl ) .
1989
CITY OF
EHINH[SSEN
UEMORANDUM
TO: Paul Xraussr Planning Director
FROM: Dave Eempel, Sr. Engineering Technician M
DA!E: September 27. L989
SUBJ: Site Plan Review, Rone Office Buildling
Upon review of the
August 31, 1989, I
recommendation:
for Rome Office Building datettfollowing cornments and
site planoffer the
Streets
1. Delete the most easterly ilriveway access onto Park Drive.
Since Park Road acts as a collector through the industrialpark, it is desirable to retluce the nunber of curb cutshaving direct access.
The applicant shoulil be maile aware that Park Place is pro-
posed to be upgraded this spring. lhe plans should bemodified accordingly to reflect the proposed road inprove-ments scheduleal . The proposeil road will consist of 3l' bitu-
minous over]ay 38 ft. wide face-to-face with B-618 concreteculb and gutter anil 3$ slopes on the boulevards.
2
4
The applicant sha1l verify that thefor truck traffic.radiuses are sufficient
The applicant should end the concrete curbs fo! the drivenay
access onto Park Pl.ace at the property line. Ihis would
enable the Cityrs contlactor to match the existing curbs when
Park Place is upgraileil.
Sanitary sewer anal Water
City wate! anil sanitary aewer is available from Park Roail.
Graili nq antl Drainage
The
the
plans indicate storm sewer being extendeCity's storm sewer system along the nort ilthp o the site fromroperty line. The
690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
Mr. Paul Krauss
september 27, L989
Page 2
overall system was ilesigneil to hanille storm runoff generated fron
such ilevelopments. All storm sewer within the Cityrs right-of-
way or utility easements sha11 be reinforceil concrete pipe (RCP).
The plans propose a 15" storm seyrer underneath the
access at Park Place. This culvert shporary purposes only. As Park Place iditch will be filleil in antl the culver
t{hen the future parking lot to the westional catch basin shoul.d be adldled inparking lot.
Ehe applicant sha11 conply with any andl all l{atershed require-
ments.
Erosion Control
d r ivewayil for tem-ould be place
s upgraded tht siII no lont is constructhe northeast
e existingger be neeiled .ted, an addi-
corner of the
The appli.cant p!oposes Type I erosion control along the perimeterof the east and north lot lines. It nay also be necessary toextend the erosion control oD the south boundary for palt of thesite. Type I erosion control , i.e. silt fence, will be accep-table at this time, however, if the City feels that this is notsufficient in holding back the erosion, the City will monitor thesite for erosion problems anil if deemedl necessary, additional.erosion control may be required in the future. All catch basinsshall be ringed with bales or silt fence until paving operationsare completed.
CITY OF
EHINHISSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
XEI.IORANDUU
fO: Jo lnn Olscn, Srnlo! Phnnrr
FRoH: xa!k LtttIln, Flrc Inspcctor
DATE: Septenber 22, 1989
SUBJ: 89-8 slte Plan Rcvtey (Rone Otftce Bulldlng)
Comme nt s
1) Add
anil /or recoouendat l ons :
an additlonal Ftre Hydlant rs Bhoun on Utlllty Plrn.
CITY OF
EHINHISSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
UET{ORANDUM
IO: Planning Commission
FROM: Ron Julkowski, Builtting Official
DATE: September 27, L989
SUBJ: Rome Office Buildling
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CHANHASSEN PTANNING COMHTSSION
REGULAR }IEETING
ocToBER 4, 1989
XE}TBERS ABSENT:Jinr t{l lderrnrrth
Paul Xrauss, Dlrector of
Chairnan Conrad called the neeting to order at 7:35 p.n..
IIEMBERS PRESENT: Tirn Erhart, steve Erurrings, Annette Ellaon, Ladd conradp-Brian Batzli andl David Heaatla
STAFF PRES ENT:
Planner Plannlng and Jo Ann Olsen, Senic._
conrad: I'n going to start orrt si.th just.n iten of interest. Dideverybody receive . cop!' of Dave Headlara note of resigning. He has sent-that to the cit:, corrncir and rryself . He sa:d it nas eifeclive october..l5th. I alwa:rs feel there's a loss when eonrebody resigns Dave because rl,-nYou've been around and lrou have some experlencer- I thi;k it js a IoBs tothe-comnrtrnity but you've talked to ne aLout leasons and r aure tnow wny- -:tourre doing it. I thlnk you.for the tinre. t donrt knoD uhat.E the righdate for your. resignation. As you sald, there is eorne tleiiuirity.- i;iitalk to :rou about that. Thanks for your tirne. you alrra:rs 3een t; bring rpdifferent perspectives and r don.t k-now shat Jo enn's goiig-io oo withoutyou around here.
SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR AN INDUSTRIAL/OFFICE/WAREHOUSE FACILITYOF PROPERTY ZONED IOP AND LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OFPARK COURT, RO}IE CORPORAT I ON.
Parrl Krauss presented the Btaff report.
Conrad: Roftan, do you sant to ptesent your ptoposalrePort? It uas prett:' clean. t{e havenit belrd-onetirrre.
or react to thethls clean for a
oN 3.95 ACRE-
PARK ROAD AND
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RoDan Roos: llell a little hlstor:, baslcally. ?he slte, !E paul el.uded t ,ls a { acre site. originally uaa tro lots but uhen the!, put tn part iiaie,shlch is a cul-de-sac to the nor!!...the!, rcconfi gur ea'-thl i -g.n"r aI area _and nade that lnto one... whlt trttr prop-oalng to 5o-rr iii"f ilr" r did onthe last building in chanhaasen that t eid r; rgei. -ih;-Iot-r" t".g.enough to sustaln two buildingg. rhe recond! bu1ldt1n9-iuoui-rzrsog ind thareason I'n- leading lrou into thle is havlng to do ultfr ttrai-curi cut. tt:, -option uould be downstream to bulrdl a aec6nd bulrdlng oi:inil rit.. Atthat point in tlne r could- have put a curb cni in-jolt-ioi"ii.t buildring soinstead I 8hifteit lt .to nrke lt i corurron casement ior Uoitr iotg at auchtlne as-I-nlg!! 3p1i.t. that propgrty into tuo. the burtdins 1g a nurti-tenanted buildlng. Therefore ihe lnount of parklng-Jn-[t.'.i"tarn slde as!'ou see-.. The distance fron the corner to -here ii apprJilmit"ry ss foot_I did want to sa:, in terms of the lndustrial p"iLr-ttli"-iie-quite a fcrrcurb crrts . . .
(Ronan Roos
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Etepped awdy fro'r the aricrophone and eas not plcked up on the -
Planning Connrission tleet ing
October {, 1989 - page 2
Rotqan Roos: ... t rm notthat t:rpe of situatlon tconsideration norrld be aabout 4g new errrployees ipicture that I have, the
landscapi.ng witb l ntent
I'ou people rnight haye re
Headla: The rerson tapple trees wlII keep
on theh.
Errnri ng s : These do.
Olsen: ies.
HeadIa: How do
bul lding?
e of any situation in the park now that hashas created a hazard. The other thinq in-ile-sac...The building uilt- bting prof,ablyChanhassen. ...As far-as the atifi report,dscaping. I{e uent a ljttle heav1, on t'he
..nd f guess I.m pretty open for questlonsing the overall site plan.
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Batzli3 Do ue have to cloae the public hearlng?
Conradt: Itis not r publlc hearing. Werll rtart Drve dorrn !t lrour
Ileadla: An:, partlcular reason lrou choae those kind of rpple trees?rPPle trees.
Ronan Roosr anshrer uas not picked up on tape.
end.
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their
Headla: And r shourd have been able to terl yorr the nane of tho6e treesbut I canrt but I'dl like to see if you can do that. r think that eouldhelp... Then the other one, lrou have junipers and redt cedtar. When onergnext to the other, I uas hoplng to get sone lnfolnltlon on this toda:' bua Irasnrt able to but whenever lrou 6ee apple treesr lor hev€r ree red cidar b1,the.nr becarrsg yourve got...fron the tree lnd that Lecorrres quiteobjectionable. rf you go to the crab app).e tree, t think-you neeit soneexpert advice on it. rf you c.n 100k rt lt to aee lf the -Junlpers couldaffect those apple trees. The other corinent iB, Jo Ann did :rou tllk to thefire departnent again?
olsen: ,he!, haal no objectlon to thrt. ?hey had revicred it rnct the:, rcrcconfortable sltb lt. Theli felt thrt the!, had the .cceaa polnts on bothstreeta anal thltra uhat the:, needed and the clrculatlon. -
Ileadlla: Ok.:r. That'3 all t hait.
conrld s l.lhlt'a lrour connent on the accegs? ghltrs the bone of contentionth.t staff has. The 3 curb cuts versus 2. Any corranent!?
lleadla: I thlnk live got a 51t preference to see the acceBa there. tcould be swayed awful eaay. r thlnk the Etaff has got e orrre good! argumenta
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but the other
c1ose.
pErt:, has sorne. good argrurents too anil I think it,s real,
Batzli: Crrrb cuts first. I act[all], thlnk I like2 curb crrts. t,rlr not a trafflc englneer tbough buthave thenr there.
the plan better wlth tt€lt makes genae to rtre .c
Conrads Io hlve tuo?
Batzli: To hlve the teo. nelt the teo on the south. llho8e tuo.
Ellson: Lelve lt !B lt?
Batzli: rt nakes sense nith the futrrr.e expanslon and everything else to_have that access i.n there so you don,t neeE another one foi the frrtureexpansion. otheruise ue're going to get into. situation shere we just 1..rtit in on west Tgth where the1, haie to-redo it so ttei-cii s;t tL" internalflol. Or else :rourre- leaving yourself open because 'you;re-!olng-to ;;e -;i
Eith another one in the futuie-expanded lot. r uoulE rathei h.ve ltplanned at th:s.poJ.nt than down t6e strearq having to roice-one in there. Icor:ple of questions of paul l tbink. t think Suit tor claritg, aake, donfue norrrally incl.ude in the notion the plans dal.ed stanped rcceivedt hatever? so rrhoever ftakes tbe notion na!, rant to inciude ifr"t .i part orthe nrotion. sonrething that rrd like to sie in t guesi t brJuEnt up before.t{henever we see e future expansion on a aite plan] potentl;i i;i";; -----rr
cxpansion, I norrld actuall:' tlke to see lt beiorne'"';;;dltl;n thlt ueirenot approvlng the futrrre expansion and r donrt kno$ hos the otherconurrissioners feel about thit brrt rrd llke to ".e-ltl-'r-Iiint tt. city -fron time to tine has naybe regretteit thrt the:, ,e.e so."tJw tacltedlvapprovJ.ns fut,rre expansion when in facr nobodyis iiirii'iiioiini-ii-ii,tr,"thard but r think the appricant 9et6 a false ein". oi-i3"oii[y [,hat the _futtrre expansion ls,.aince nobodl' said anything Uaa-aUooi-ii, fi;" i !o r-! lrter date. t'd rike to hear I or.re corwaents on that. rhe inly othcithing r had was the dra:n.ge to the north r tbink. rs thla currentr:, into! uetland or wbere ls that golng to?
Borran Roos: lhererr a atorn eerer along the property llne.
Batzli! But ,h!t sas the holding ;rond or sorethlnE?
f,rluss s rt sas !n ere! thlt vas cre.ted or utlllzed rlth our lndustrtrl _pill, "ld was deslgned to receive rrl tbe u.tcE. tlow lt doel have roneuetland characteristlcs. rhlch nay have occurred over the-ieccnt yeara. rt rlocatedt enti!cI!, off Blte.
Bltzli: so they.re not ulthln 75 feet or utlltever the heck? tbev.re not-going to need thlt typc of .pproval? rberere not goi"g--ii-'L .ny kind ofrequirenrent for a skiirnrer or inyttring iise arainlng ofi of thc brlcktop or-anythlng llke thrt?
xrauss: we dldnit lncl.udte that. tt certainJ.y could be lnd the other point18 the:, have .to get watershedt Distrlct approvil as rell.
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Batzli: yorr knorr r donrt know. There rras no discussion of that in herebut it appeared that the:' weren.t going to initiall.:r drain lnto the storrrraeeret s:rstem. It looked.Like it was go5.ng to be dfaini.ng into a holdingretention pond or sonrething.
Xrauss ! No, it does go into the s:7sten. Whatts teEporar:r though is theimprovement on Park P1ace rlght now are only there tenporarily. Tbere,a nostorn serrer in Park Place. When you rebuild the street next spring, itrilr have curb and gutter and storm gener and Herre asking tbal th6-syste:nbe-designeil so when re plt in the final llne, that the:, all hook togelherand run into that retention area.
Batzli: I guess I,d like engineering or shoever to look at just to rrakeaure that the]/rre engineering it properly. Ihatts the onl:, questlonsI have.
RoEan Roost connrents were not pickeil up on tape .
Batz1i: So itis really not even being subdlvidledt as an outlot?
Ror4an Roos: No. Absolutely not...
Conrad: I kind of like seeing the thought of the direction and to Fre it,s
rtlore persuasive in terrrls of allowing the 2 curb cuts on Park Road. Now Ithink if Rohan cones back in anil rrhen he subdivides andt Dants an additionalcurb cut, I think lt depends what we do here ton:ght, hoi, nan:' rre €llow butI think. on n:, part, if ve allow 3 now, thererd be a terrific amount ofresistance to add an additional one when he subdivides later on 60 I reall:,like seei.ng an overall. plan like this.
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Batzli: I agree. tt:, onL!, point was that wetre not approving this buildingor that particular locatlon or configurttion. I nean the setbacks.
lJhatever hasnrt reaLly been studied b:r staff or us.
Ellson: Right. Tberers .n assumption thrt ruight go along slth it that lroujust Hant to protect yourse).f against. I like tbe plan. I like the rear
Ioadlng and I Like the J.anilscaping. It saF so refreshing to aee a lot of
landscaping for a cbange verEus llrays rsking to ldd r little more anil
things like that. I think lt's a good use of that area and llke LaildEaid, : like the idea of seelng tbe ldea of the expansion. One of n!, pet
peeves is just seeing the eoril outlot lnd :tou have no ldea wbat the uhole,
:rou know here se are planners. tle like to Eee the uhole plan even thoughltrs not an approval llke that. I donrt reall!' have a probletn uith the
extra curb cuta nos that Irve heard the expl.anatlon and lgaln the plan of
uhat hers seeing ln the future. I thlnk then ltrr natural that people fronth.t buildlng Houlat go ln that ray antl the people ln thls one uould 9o ln
that nay. In that contert lt nakee EenBe 8o I donrt thlnk I rouldl have !
problerrr with allowing that there. lt Eounded like there uould be about l0
additional people that rould be ln thle case noi, spllttlng up these tuo
shich would pretty nuch Btagger hou busy lt uould be. I canrt irrragine ltrd
be too bus:/. But I like lt. Do :iou have tenlntB? You sald this oners
golng to be a nultlPle tenant.
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Ronan Roos: l{e have one tenant lnd rerre norking
Ellson: What kind of corqpany? I.m Just kind of
Ronan Roosr ansrrer coul.d not be heardt on tape.
Et*rings' rrd llke to. lsk.on page 5. rn that llttle tabre youive got uncrerlot coverage. Just the line itrit -ays-rot coverage ordinanle zot, proposei75t. r know thereia that note under-thtre. r easn,t .rear iuoii'd;;1;=;1l ne uas telling rrre.
xrauss: what that was tellrng you ls se took r rook or t lsr(eit thedeveloper's atchitect to take a look at rbat the total site coverage woul rbe uith both brrirdi.ngs that. the:7,re arrowin!-on tt"-.on"eii-a"a it exceededthe reqrrirenent. Then we discuised hohr you- courd bring that into ------:
conrpliance and .itts a telatively sirtrple iask since ttre-siie-is so overparked. There is no varrance n6w slirce that entire ."""ipi future phase -sgoing to be a vacant lot.
Errrings: But the actual lot coverage rlth what is being proposett.
Krauss: Is considerably less.
Etorings: Do $re know what that number is?
Krauss: No, I have not worked that out.
Etrrarings 3 But it's certainl!, eell sithin?
Frluss: It,s probabl:' {St
E,rnrings: Arrlght. As far .s the curb cuts are concerned. this rooks ritea real reasonable and natural uay to have the coru euia-ind t guess r li}it there. you're not.gettin! i;e ;;"i;-;;pport fron us tonlEbt on thisbut. r terr-!'ou one thiis rn,-conceined ;#i,i-i"-;;^-;.';"illa auout rastreek, the rast tinre ne met, lbout that infarrrous Lot A lnd the puD for th€-aupernarket. r think. r or aonebodty askedt ,tii-ti.-r"giiltr'oir" are rn ter Iof bow.cr'ose you can.have a driviriy-tJ-i corner .nd the number 300 teetituck in my rnind. Didnit I heat ttriti-
olsen: That els on west Tgth street thlt re used wrth charlre Jatnes tpr oper ty .
Ermings:So tbat doesn r t
That $as a busle!
Now is there afrontage?
No.
appl1' to thiE 6ltustlon?
lnterscctlon.
atandard in this arca for
on the other.
interested.
Ol sen :
Eurings -
betoa
f,rauss :
bor cloee a driveuay can
Conrad: t{hy don't :'ou just talk to
salre grlestions so I'11 j urtrp in here.receptive to the 3 curb crrts so paul
Give us sonre negatives.
Xrauss: The negatlves fall into
ever:ttihe You intloduce a net cur
because obviously people are goin
nore trrrni.ng rnovenents you have,
oncoming cars as :rourre driving dpotential interaction betneen carno firn rr:le about how rrlan)r therefrom one another typicall.y excepteant to nrinirrize then and I canrtcuts on that road right now. Theopinlon, nore than are r'rarranted
enrployees or how ever nan:, enrploy
have to realize itrs an industria
leave at the same time. I rrn nota traffic accident in the ,nakingright now. Itis reall:/ a Eatterof thtrnrb.
us about this. Irn going to ask tbeIt Eounds like so far werre Drettvtell us the other side of the'coin'.
a couple c.tegories. BasicalI:i you have,b cut, you lntroduce turning novenentsg to stop their cars lnd trlrn out. Thethe nore places you have to look for
onn the atreet. l{ori places ttrere are foxs 9oin9 in different directions. Therersshould be or hou far thelr sboul.d be apartthat the general rule of thurttb is lrorrargue that there arenrt a Lot of curbre are rnd tberers probabllr, is tnltglven the levels of traffic. Having 40ees Eounals Lnnocuous enough, except youI park and the:r lII tenat to arrive ani!going to tel1 !,ou that there.5 deflnitel!,here ulth the propoBal the ray it sitsof nornally accepted practlces and rules
Ermings: And I like it. I agree uith Brian.s notion andt I agree itrs gooitto see rrhat people are planning to do ln the future on tbe bllance of thelot but I think it is ihportant that rre have aone klnil of ! BtateEent lnthere that uerre not givlng lny considerltion to that even though 1t
appears bere and that therers to be no approval, implied or otherwise for
approvlng a plan that's in front of. I tbink itrs nlce to make that realclear. Those are all the coFlnentE I have. Otherwise I thlnk itrs a realnice plan. I keep thinking thls Lot 2, 1f lt diatnrt have Park Place overhere, lrourd certainl:' have an acces6 on eaeh Eide of your buil.ding andl Irouldnrt see anlr rea6on to treat lt dlfferentll, JuEt because he has thatother rccess opportunlty $ay up Park Street. I think ltrs an .dtvantage tohaving the corner and trd leave the lccesaee the ray they rre.
Erhart: I think lt'6 a teal nice plan. I thlnk the additional lanilscaping
overcomes my concern for the reputltion of the developer.
Eonan Roos3 I love lrou too !in.
Erbart: ttis r good pl.n. Regarding the curb cuts. I understand the
lssue of the curb cuts close to the lntereectlon. lferre obvlously, our
business is right acroEs the street andt dorn a blt. Yeah, you do get sone
people running into each other. tle h!d! one the othcr day. Sotqe guy
scraped a car.little blt. rlerre right ln the nlddle of the gtreet .o Idonit knohr hor these things happen. Essentlally ltta r four lane roadl. I
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Erlmings: The Red Splendor Crab is the one that holds itrs apples. The RedSplender Crab is the one tbat holdls ltrs apples !11 rinter. That happenEto be the one that hol.ds it longer I think than any other one.
Ellson: Did you just look that up or you kneo tbat? tfelt Eooil for :rou.
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Erhart: Recelved 9-B-89 uith al.r the staff recoruendatlonr ercept fornunber 3. lie delete the flrst aentence and changc the secondt ae-ntence tEtart, redesign curb cuts as required as lt rcnains. eoa-itirl rg. siteplan approval does not.inclrrde ipproval of tbe bulrdinf -ecilnateo on thplans as future expansion.
Ellson: I ! Il aecond th.t.
Conrad: Di scuss i on.
Batzli: Do :,ou uant to talk about the rust on the trees?
COnrad: l,l:, concern haBnrt been lnCOrpOrated.
Emrings: Oh, the future expanrlon.
Erhart: you slnteat. ..
g:nlldj The onry re!30n trd vote tor the 3 rlght nos rr lf trn convrnced-thlt that,s all. reire golng to have on tht, a ;;;.-;;"ilr11,.'
iiii!i:^:iii !*lil+":':";:";f,::";:t".;l: ;:.;"::::iflto Bt it jt.,,.ssess those sortE of tnprers. At ruch tlqc, ti i";;a-;;; p;;";i iignt no,and through the eubdivlalon procer!, lt lt'a'er..-.oUifiiic["ott ln thefuture, ue can aluaw5 utrlp tirlr con.cpi out end ."y ifrii-lI rhat relntended to do.
nean 1t's-wide enough so if sonreone nakes a l,eft turn, you can pass on therlght. If soneone,s slowing dorrn to nake a right turn, the:, can pass on _the left.. -r guess rny feerlng is the nuisance iactor oi not- hav ini -i-"oiu
cut outueighs- the potentiar danger of it eo r guess t eould tend [,o ].ean roallow the curb crrts. r llso agiee uith Brianri idea of adding a lgthteconorendation ao thatra lt.
conrad: rrti persu.dedt to all0w that curb cut only because r see the futrrreexpansion. _Propert!, only havlng one rnat I rould 6e real ctitlc;I-li't;;:-nert arrbdivision canre ln ancl had z ao t eould onl.:r grant the 3 this time1f r felt rear confortabre th.t the futurc expan-ioi ""J oniy-goiil;;";".the one curb cut. other than that lt tooks like. good one.' 6ood-projec!.I like it. Anlrthing clre? ts there ! rlotlon?
Erhart: rrll rnove that the plrnning corrurlssion reconurend approval to theCitY Corrncil of Site plan Revie{ lg9-g dateit 9-5-g9.
El.I son : 9-8.
Erltrlngs: Received 9-8.
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ElIson: Would that be typlclllutorrratic to do that?to renenber to do tblt or i3 thlt Just
xr.uss: rtts autonatic to look at background anil to .ctions associateduith the propert:r and that would be one of thenr.
Conrad: See werre kinil of over-riding your ataff report shich I don,tdoing t:'pically on technlcal lssues but I feel re.re gettlng sorrrethingthink in the future.
f,rauss: No, Irn saf ing it.s fine. Itltl not disputlng that point br:tconcern I think eas to enBure that there lsnrt another accesE ln theand I think He can do tblt adequately through the subdtivision process
by baving this concept .nil your hearlng on thi8 I tern tonlght.
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Xrauss: He could subdivide it off. At that tine re wouldcross access easenent to serve both properties be recordett
l ikeor I
ltourfrrtur€
and!
Conrad: So Ronan can cotie back anit aa:, I ran! to subdivide this I.5 acresoff without a site plan. He could do that couldn.t he?
recoruIend that aagainst it.
Conrad: But wouldn't he have
access to tha t?
the right to cone back ln and hlve a eeconit
Krauss: Theoreticall:r.
Ronan Roos: Ladd, can I address that a little bit?
Conrail: Go ahead.
Roman Roos: From the day I conceiveil the proJect, the intent ras I ranteatthe truck traffic behind both buildings. ThatrB the reason for this curbcut here jn order to eervice this building anil this building. Now thepurpose of the second curb cut is exactly whato not have a lot of curb cuts in the front o
so with this servicing the trrrck traffic, hop
back out that wa:r...this should be car traffi
alread:, told :,ou, to eventuall!, probabl!, EpIi
ourre eluCllng to. I ranted
he ProPert!, on tbe bulldlingthe truck traffic can go
ndt lt was ny lntent, !s th.t ProPert:t llne. I have
t!,fr
lngcttt
no problenr with the green apace. I have no problen uith...
Conrail: I hear uhat !'ourre ealrlng.
Ronan Roos: So I did have lntent fron day one. I donrt have a crlrstaLball and I canrt telI you ehat'a going to happen 5 lzears dornatrem or 2years downstrean but rny lntent at thi8 polnt ln tirne ls to do that 3uchthat this rould be a cross ovar easement. thltrs all.I can s!!, about lt.
Conrad: But lrourre rlso telling me, you uould havc ! touglr tlne getting r
aeconil rccess ln on the rubdllvlded...
Rornrn Roos: I guess lf rt that point I needtedt a second acceEs, lt rould
hurt ne on this bulldlng, the rldth of the bulldtlng. Okay, thltrs numbcrone. Number two, lf I needted . aecond lcce36, I rould probabty have tosell my Eoul to get both Councll lnil Plannlng Conrrrlssion to agree to thatbut t think if that did, tbere would be sonrc loglcal reasons behlnd it andprobabl:' uould not, ihould not be denled baEea! on every other tlrpe of...
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October l, L989 - Page 9
and office in theto do that.industrial park. :r intent at this point in tinre is not
conrad: r think r'm persuadedt he can.t do it ao r donrt neeil the languag=.
Erhart noved, Elrson seconded tbat the plannlng connrission tecon&endapproval of Site Plan Reviei, 189-8 dated rRecelved 9-g-g9r for the Romeoffice Building sithout variances Eubject to the forlowing stlpurit:.onJ: -
1. Provide trash 6torage encloaure built rith materials compatibre r{iththe buiIdj.ng or store all trash lnternally.
2.
2
Roof nounted HVAC equipnrent Ehorrld be providtedt ritconstrrrcted of rrater ials cottrpatible yith tbe bul ldDetails should be prepareil for staff approval priorev i,ew.
Redlesign the remaining curb cuts.s requiredturning Flovernents. Reduce the grade on theculb cut fronr 10+t to less than 5t.
Revlse_the Landscaping plan to illustrate eeedingPhase II buj.lding area. Th j.s area is to be kept-condition until construction occurs.
Project approval by ttre Ri).ey purgator!, Bluff Creek t{atershed Distlic .
Utilize concrete curb and gutter and design lt to connect tolnprovements ln park place that will be installeit b:, the Cit:r. Add a-additionar catch basin at tbe park prace curb cut. -A11 etor; serrerlocated in public easenent or Row sirarl be relnfoiced -.onci"l" pipe.
Erosion controls lre to be 1n place prior to start of uoEand rrrainta j.ned until site restoratioir is conpleted. Addicontrol na:, be required along -the south propirtl, fine b1,-prevent erosion into park Roadt.
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Adil a fire h:rdlrant on the parklng lot l8lrnd located off the northrrestcorner of the buil.dlng.
Providing lighting and eignage detalls for Etaff revier.
site- 91an approval doeB not incrude approval 0f the burldtlng deslgnrt :on the plans as future expanrlon.
voted ln favor and the notlon carrledt.
h a ecreenlng exterior.r to Ci t!, Corrnc i I
to facilitate truckrenalnlng Plrk Roadt anil
or sodding of theln a nainta ined
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CITY OF
EH[I{H[SSEI{
Oclober 18, 1989
!1!. Ronan Roos
I0341 itei d i lane
Chaska, llN 55318
Re: Grading Pertni t foFile No. 89-8 Gra
Dear !1r . Roos :
ome Building Site, 1450 Park Roatlg Perei trR
dlin
I All erosion control measures shal1oPerations begin.
be in place before glailing
2. The applicant shall pay the CityrE permit fees as requireciand sha1l provide the City with a cash escrow or irrevocableletter of credit from a bank in the amount of 57,700 beforegrading conmences. The letter of cretlit sha1l be for a termending October 1, 1990 or until auch tine as a buildtingpermit is issued.
3. The appl.icant sha11 receive WaterEhedl District approval priorto cotrmencenent of any Erading.
This letter is to confirE that on October 9, 1989 the CityCouncil approved your grailing pernit for 1{50 park Road subjectto the following conditions:
{. Elininate the eastern curb cut on Eark Road andl replace itwith a maneuvering erea for use by parkedt cars.
5. Reduce the grade on the renainiag Park Road accesa frotr 10tto around 51.
revieetl gradling plan reflectlng tbepproval , together uith a lctter of creAit ore amount speclfledl andl pernlt fee of $238.50,horize execution of the Erading pernit.
Upon receipt ofBtipulations of
cash escrou inthe City will a
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690 COULTER DFIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN. MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
!1r. Roman Roos
October 18, 1989
Page 2
If you shoulil have any questions, pl.ease do Dot hesitrte tocontact ne.
Sincerely,
CIIY OF CEANtsASSEN
David C. SempelSr. Engineering Technician
DCH : ktm
ca Gary l{arren, City Engineer
Ron Julkowski , Building OfficialPaul Krauss, Pfanning Director
I
Paul Krauss, Planning Director
CITY OF
EHINHISSEN
@
IIEIIORANDUI'1
TO:
FRO}I:
DATE:
SUBJ:
Dave Bempel , Sr. EngiDeering Technician
Octobe! 18, 1989
Upilate on Site PIan Review for Rome Office Building Site
14 50 Park RoadFile No. 89-8 Grailing Perrdt
As you are aware, at the October tl , 1989 Planning Conmissionmeeting, the Codrmission agreed Eith staff rs recommendlation forsite plan approval with the exception of the proposal to dleletethe easterly curb cut on Park Road. Ihey dtid recornmend that theproject be approved with the proposeil curb cuts as long as it wasclear that no additional curb cuts would be pennitted when the -
second phase building is proposed.
On october 9, 1989, the City Council consiiler approval of agrading permit for this site to help expedite construction beforeninter set in. Tbe Council agreed with 6taff's recomnendationfor the approval of the permit. One of the conditiona of appro-val was to delete the easterly curb cut on Park Road. This
created a controversy between what the Planning Commission hatlpreviously approveil.
The basis of Engineeling's recorunendation to elininate this curbcut is from a traffic safety stanilpoint. tgith the anticipated
high commercial/indlustrial traffic vol une along Palk Roail con-
binetl with the geometric layout of the adlJacent streets and dri-
veways (see attacheil map), it appears that this curb cut yill
aggravate the traffic flow situation in the area. Staff felt ifthe easterly curb cut along Park Roadl was deleted that the slte
could still be adequately aervedl by the remaining two acceaaes.
Baseal on these considerations, it is therefore reconmendledl thatthat easterly curb cut be elininated andl replaced with a
maneuvering aree for use by parked cara.
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Memo to Gary Walren dated Oetober 2,
Driveway Layout Uap.
c: Gary !lar!en, City Engineer
1989.Attachments:
690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
CITY OF
EH,lNH,lSSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE. P.O. BO: r47 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317(612) 937-1900
I.TEI{ORAI{DUIII
TO:
FRO}I:
DATE:
SUBJ:
Attached is a
1989 prepared!tr. Roos isfor site plannit be i ssuedthe site grad
Gary Warren r City Engineer
Dave gerupel , Sr. EngiDeering recUai"ian@
October 2, 1989
Approve Gradino Pernit for Rone Building site,1450 Park Road-PiLe No. 89-8 Grailing pelDit
gradling and erosion contloI plan dated August 3l ,by.Rehder-wenzet, rnc. on Uiiif oiiorin noo".on--the_ -Octofer { r - }9 I 9. pfanning-Corriiiloo AEeDdarevrew. The applicalt .h?e re{uestedt a grading-ler_in .dvance of the site.plan $;;;;;i t-o'conpteteing before searhe! conai-tions--6;;';;r;he uorse.
Ihe 3.9 acre site is J.ocated at the nolthwest corDer of theintersecrion of park-noaa ina-paii-piIi". rhe sire conBisrs ofgrassy meadowlands Bloping tron resi-Il east. fire aiea-niturallydrains towards the norib ira-riri-i" i!,pran. a, "ii:"ii" pondins area that ;iii"i:"i:iril.!ni.B'li::8.to handle the runofi s"n.i"M-riii'ti!'gite.
Ihree_access points are ploposed, tno on park Drive and one onpark place. park Drive_is i-tti6rif,-sir.et th!t functiona as rnindustrial colLector. park place-i" i-"tort cu1-de-aac uhich is-scheduled for upgradiog n.*t-Ifiinil -sio.. park Drive rs athrough street that functions ie-ii-rnrustrral corlcctor, 1t lsreconmended that the easterly iceJis-;hio'd be ;;i;;Ii]-,ri,::H:ili';t:;"tl:"::::"can ctirr ue-iaeeuateri-""iili-ii tiJ
The plans propose Ilpe I.erosion control rlong the perieeter ofthe east and north lot lines. ft nrai-ifthe erosion control-on the aouth uoGaiiiorS: ;:ff"#1n:""i*:.uType r erosion control , i.e. giit-i;cll rirl be acceptablc atthis time; however, tf'the CftV-feeis-ii"t tnf" la not sufficientin holdine back the erosion, t'r,e-ciEi iirr ilieiii! Iiiiiiiiirerosion control in the futuie.
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690 COULTER DBTVE . pO. BOX 147 0 9111111115SEN, MTNNESOTA 55317
(612) 937_1900. FAX (512) 937-5739
ITTEIIORANDUI{
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Sharmin AI-Jaff, planner I 1"jlt'
Charles Fo1ch, Assistant City Engine"tCt\Y
August 28, 1990
Review of Lot Split of Lot 3, Block 1, Chanhassen LakesBusiness Park into 2 Lots and Site plan Review forI'linnesota Vehicle Inspection Station (Systeos Control.,
I ncorpo ra tedFile !io. 90-2il fand Use Review
L in Chanhassen lakes Business park is currently
.p?rcel vegetateil nith fieltl glasses. The proposedield 2 Lots with the westerly Iot (approximitely
ignated for a vehicle inspection stalion. StncLot is the subject area for review, it will bethis report as the "site,
Upon completion of development, the 6ite will ehange from atotally pervious site to one with a nearly equal mix of 5ltpervious and 49t imperivous.
Lot 3 of Block
an undevelopedreplat would y1.7 acres ) desthe westerly 1referred to in
GRAD ING DRAINAGE
The site primarily drains to the. east anil noltheast. A sma1larea of the southeast corner drains to park Road. The proposedgrading plan naintains a consi6tent drainage pattern wiLtr Ltrepresent conilition. Houever, slopes along the north and northwestportions of the site appear to be slightly greater than 3:1 anilthus rdil1 require special slope stabilization measures 6uch aswood-fiber blankets anil fype III erosion control. Being that thesite is larger than one acre, a Watersheil pernit wilf be requireil.
A storm sewer system compri setl of two catch baslns is proposed tobe constructed and connected to an existing trunk StorB aenerextending along the northern border of the Blte. The proposedlconnection point is located at a nanhole ailjacent to the north-east corner of the site. Eorrever, design capaeity limitationsfo! the existing storm sewe! nay dlictate the actual location forthe connection. The applicant sha1l submit 10-year storur flowcalculations for the site prior to final site plan approval .
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August 28, 1990
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UTILIT IES
Sanitary sewer and water service 6tubs are availble at thesouthe!ly porperty line. Fire hydrant requirernents shatl beverified with the City Fire Harshal1.
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An existing 45-foot wide drainage anil utilitthe northern property line of the site. No
easements are anticipated. Eoseve!, the proside 1ot line easements for both of the newlbe deilicated on the plat.
CITY RIGHT-OF-hIAY
1 Slopes steeper than 3:1 will
Type II erosion control .
A future sidewalk will like1y be constructed within the northboulevard of Park Drive. Thus, the applicant shall be advisedthat no signs or other structures will be pernitted to beinstalled within the City right-of-way.
PARKING LOT,/DRIVEWAY ACCESS
The proposed parking lot anil driveway access have been designedto aIlow for the reguired turning movements of the variousvehicles and trucks ( including emergency vehicles) that will beusing the facility. A concrete industrial driveway apron with aninimun radius cut of 20 feet sha1l be constructed at theentrance to the facility from park Road. ft is also recommendedthat a sidewalk or other designated walkway system be providedwith handicap ramps !o establish a safe pedestrian traielwaybetween the parking fot and the building (see attached sketah).This vralkway plan would eliminate one pirking sta1l. Horrever,the submitted site plan proposes five stalls nore than theminimum requirements. Thus, sone flexibility nay be possible.
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The applicantrs engineer sha1l euburit l0-year storn flowcalculations for the site. This nay regutate the 1ocation ofthe connection to the existing stoln aewer facility.
The required 1ot line easements for both of the nerrly createdlots shall be provideil on the ptat.
A concrete industrial driveway apron eith a mininura radiuscut of 20 feet sha11 be constructed at the entrance off ofPark Road.
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October 3, 1990 - Page 49
PUBLIC HEARING:
ZONING ORDINANCE AI{ENDiIENT TO ATEND SECTTONS 20-714 AND 20-814. CONDITIONALusEs rN THE BH AND IgP DISTRICTS TO ALLOr.r ANO CREATE STANpAROS FOR VEHTCLE
TNSPECTION STATIONS IN THESE DISTRICTS.
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PARK AND L CATED AT THE INYER ION OF PARK ROAD AND PLACE :
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERHIT TO ALLOI.' FOR A T/EHICLE TNSPECTION STATION;
PubIic Prcscnt:
Na rn Addr ess
Jerry Perkins
Dennis Pa I mer
John Uban
l.Jal ter Roc kenstei n
Alan Klugman
Dave Braslau
Stanley J. Krzyr.r ic k iAl Iverson
Sue Kr ienke
Hugh Yeager
Dick Hei. Istrom
Dave Kelso
Barb Jac kson
Tim Raschl ager
Gary tleIch
PauI Krauss presented thc staff report. Vice Chairman Erhart called thepublic hearing to order.
Emmings: If you're still gathcrinC information. .rG you asking us to acton this lonight or to tablc lt aeain until that informatlon comcs in?
Krauss: The only information uhich rc arc in thc proccss of lttcmpting togather is ue spoke, thc llayor 6pokc to us this mornlnE and suggcsted that
bre contact adjoining propcrty oEnora. Lrhat x€ proposc to do is bring thatinformation to the Clty Council meetlng if you act on thls proposal
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Erhart: okay, what I'd likc to do is open this up to the public input anditcm whlch ls the zoning ordinancc rmendment at
amcndmcnt that h,ould allow a vehicle
and IOP district. t,lhat I'm trylng to do isthis Dite plan initially until rlc have anive lt a shot. I think Ec can 9€t more sense
omeone have some comnents about the ordinance
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1350 Encrgy Park Dr ivc
5275 Edina Industrial Blvd.Dahlgren, Shardlon and UbanAttorncy for Systcms ControlTraffic Engi neer
1313 sth St. S.E., Suite 322, ilp16, S54O4
5275 Edina Industrial BIvd.
Pl,lT , 1500 Par k Road
15OO Park Road
32O tl . 76th Strcct, f2O1 , Edina, ttN 55435
15OO Park RoadPollutlon Control AgcncyPoIlution Control AgoncyIndustrial Information ControlsIndustrial Information Controls
PIanning Commission lleet i ng
October 3, 1990 - Page 5O
Dennis Pa]mer: Good evening Hr. Chairman, members of the Commission. l,1y
name is Dennis Palmer. I'm general manager ulith Systems Control. Thankyou for the opportunity to come here and speak before )rou.
Erhart: Excuse me. You'rc Aencral manag€r of uhich company?
ere to support the sLaff'sstations, vehicle inspectlononal use. I have with me thisst about all your concerns
[.le have uith us John Uban from
nnesota to conduct the cmission testing
hc location here in Chanhassen is one of 11
contracted by lhe Stat€ of 1.1program here in Hi nnesota.
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Erhart: Okay, than ks.
John Uban: I'm John Uban. I'm a consulting J.and planner and they'veasked' r.re've looked !t the particular ordinance, the condition of the ar6aand we have looked at the industrial park and we have found that uhenIookins at an ordinanc6 that r think you should r€ally decide where is the-best place and not have it 9o into tco. And as le look at both businessuses and industrial uses, u,e sse that lhis testinE facility in our opinionreallv falls better into an industrial type use. For instance, in plymoutl
the State has similar facilities that they use to tsst drivers to gbtdriver'F licenses and it's off Fcrnbrook. rt's in an industriar arca andnormal industrial growth has happcncd around that facility. It teststreop]e. It tests cars. It tests people for driver'e liccnses, Thisfacility as proposed also tests and that is basicall)r an industrial typeuse. lndustrial type activity. They don't come and pay mone),,. It is afee that's covered in their normar liccnsing apprications and so there is -no commerce in the sense of people buying things. BuyinE serviccs.Transactions with money. That kind of activity normalllr would happen in acommercial zone where you do have pcople buying things and it,s that kind -of activitv, that kind of commerce that this particular use usualry doisnot fit in with and it's commonality is best with industrial type uses.And so to try and encourage it into an lrea that ls bcttcr suited forbusinesses or is more rttractivc for busincsses r don't think is wise. An,-the other thing that the arcas lrong TH 5 have ln thc buslness zoncs isvisibility and that is a very important attribute thlt property has thatmakes it valuable and very attractivc for businesscs, especialiy thoseareas close to the downtou,n arca of chanhasscn and r think you uant tostrengthen dountown, 6trengthen your buslness zoncs by havlng uses thathave common intercsts and business uscs that have commcrce ai that basewould be better suited along TH 5 uith visibillty. And so r think thistvpe of use of testing automobilcs is better suited ln an industrial arca.rndustrial areas can handle the minimum amount of cxtrl traffic this m.ycreate. It is built that Ha),. Thc facility is vcry lttractive 60 it me6t!-aII the aesthetic concerns and it's peak traffic for lnstance, the pcakingof traffic in industrial areas in thc norning and cvcninE where you havetraffic problems that may occur, this facility does not peak at thoseparticular times. And 60 I think it uorks very xcII and ls complimrntlryin that fashion. The other thlng that lrc looked .t and uc had an appraiser
Dennis Palmer 3 Systems Control . S)zstcms Control is the private contracto
Pla nn i ng Commission l.teeting
October 3, 1990 - Pege 51
look at the impact on property values if such a facility L,ere to go into anindustrial area. Their review found that there ..las no adverse impact tosurroundi.ng properties when this is located in an tndustrial park and so uefeel that allowing this use, cither permitted or conditional use. in anindustrial park is the appropricte approach. Thank you-
Emmings: tlay I ask a quostion? Did you provide a cop), of your appraiser,sreport to the city?
John Uban: That, lre have a summary whlch pill bc provlded tomorrow. uejust did not have ! copy that had been flnally prepared for tonight butthat will be for them tomorrow.
Erhaii: Thanks John. Anybody else? Is thcrc anybody opposing theordinance changes?
Sue Krienke: Hy nlme is Sue Kricnkc rnd I'm thc Office l,lenager for pHT
Corporation and I have some, uhat I feel arc very legitimate concerns aboutthe location of the station. At the currcnt time ue -ire havins 6 to 10people per week coming in and askinE dirocllons. Now not dircctlons to thestation. Directions to other businesses in the Chanhassen LakePark. In the Jonathan Park. Chanhassen. AII over the surrounOkay? So even with the signs that will be provided, I still sepeople stopping in and asking directions will at least doublc i
I would think that a much bettcr location for thcmajor highway where people can find it right a!.ay.is being penalized, we'II be penalized for bcing n
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dinetfntriple, I mean you're even talking thcre's the McDonald's. you knor.J b,a'regoins to get that tvpe of question. ue'lI also be gctting pcople stoppinEin asking to use the phone and the restroom facilitlcs and again, I don'tfeel like PMT or the.people uho work uith mc should have to d.al L,ich that,
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extet the present time, the Chanhassen Lakes Business Park is a cleanindustrial park. If you drivc up and down Park Road on an lverage dayyou'Il see numbers of employces from PHT, Empak and other places dourn theroad where the employees are 6itting outside having breaks, ualking up rnd
down the road enjoying the nico xeathcr rnd gettlng some exercise. Uiththese c6rs traveling up and dor.rn the roed. HilI thc walking bc possible?
You know it's a nic€ quiet pleasant atmosphere now to get auay from your
Hork station. t,hat uill it bc like with thc cars and thc traffic outthere? Thank you.
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very difficult not torict so anybody uho opp
ust xant to cmphasize thathat lf thls ls p.sses,
w thls use in an industrialit, please spcak.
consultant forof my cI lcnts is Pl,lTbuild 50,OOO squarccility. Thc concer nnothcr industrial officcrk or enothGr IOP, they've
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n their land alrcady. Their specials arrdthe propcrty. Usc of, ln my oplnion, non-
ng to ceuse his property valuc to go down.
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Planning Commission I'leeting
October 3, 1990 - Page 52
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Erhart: Thanks Dave. The survey hrc did lras on talkine to other cities
about problems?
Krauss: It &,as other units of government, yGah.
EI lson: Before the CounciI.
Erhart: You u,ere going to do that for the Council?
Krauss: Yeah. The Mayor spoke to us about that this morning.good suggestion and ue'lI folloh, up on that.
Erhart: Tim, this is, we'rc struggllng uith this onc. You guys own abuildins in this park. Do you have any feellngs?
Tim Rashchlager: tle're nelghbors ulth Roman and hc has of course afacility also there. I think probably the implct... I rcally think twopoints thaL are well takcn that need to be Btrongl.y considercd. tlc alread
have a real problem uith the road...and the numbcr of pGople coming in ourfront door and asking dircctions. It's a rcal disruption to normalbusiness every day there. The sccond impact...ue've had tuo employees hav-serious accidents in the lest 6 months. BoLh cars totalcd. Thc problcm
uas traffic on those corncrs there. And Nithout doingr thc propcrdirectional signals at the corner wherc you entor th6 plrk therc and down -by...and even potcntially down as far as the miniaturc Aolf coursc on TH 5
Those three corners already can't toleraC€ thc current traffic !nd any
amount on...uould be suicidal . In fact I ulll strongly guess thrt you're
9oin9 to have a fatality on onc of thoso thrcc corners in thc n.xt 12
months.
I uould think there would be good potential for it. I don't think I couldguarantee it's going to go down. I don't think opposing people that hrantto put that non-compatible use in there can guarantee that it's not going -to go down. HE also, or PllT in this crse has very expensive property. Noonly are they impinged on the west by the inspection station, they'll be
impacted on the norLh because he's got even a larger lot and the tr.lofacilities, the 25.OOO and the 50,OO0. The potential to develop officeindustrial oporatlon on that lot is going to bc lmpactad negativcly in myopinion. Not only if he ouns to use or to staff it uith his own operation_or builds to lease. It r.rould seem to me thrt there's a big potential for
negative use of that propcrty thlt he rnight not Gven be able to build phat
he Hants to build becausa he won't bc able to flnd a clientele or be ableto lease the property to, xhether it's manufrcturing, uhcther it's off ice,-
whether it's warehouse type operations. I don't think staff has adequatel
explored the negatives of uhat one of these atations has done to anexisting industrial office park. They said they hav6 plans of contacting -some of the people but they brought uF nobody yet. Nobody else that h,e cacontact and say is it really true. Is it really have a very minimal
i.mpact? They've only talkcd to city people and aII the city people areprobably concerned uith is maybo an additional tax b.se or something ofthis nature. Not the negative impact on thc cxistinE businesses. Jhat'sall I really Hanted to bring up. Thank you.
Erhart: Do ue have plans to contact surroundlng businesses or did ue lalkto any?
Erhart: Thanks. That was Tim Raschlager from rrc. okay. Anybody clse onthe issue of the ordinance change? AI?
AI Iverson: tlr. Chairman and mcmbcrs of the Planning Commission, my nameis AI Iverson and I'm the President of the pHT Corporltlon. I appreciatcyou put into this. I'm a manufacturcr and I'm not totallyall of the thines that take place and I guess that each manht in their own cycs. !J€ carne to the top looking for ano grow. our company has been growinE very, very rapidly. Ueedical surgical products. Lle have 1OO cmployees, I expect to1 ninimum. You've listencd to a number of people and ure
OP should not be rczoned to allow thic. t've xitncssed uhatoes through. I.lr. Hcllstrom uho is assisting us in thef what we'd like is four total buildings which actually r.rouldsurround, almos! surround the inspection siLe, and do anticipate to buildfor, I knou right now
xpect that to lasthcre might be anut to profcssional
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DNR wants us to leave it. tle wantcd to leavbehind there. A pond uhere some of the emplnice site, It's a nice amenity. It'B a natbuild around it and edd to the IOP the way ihere with the philosophy of it being truly aI think the uord park is really something ththat employees deserve. tlethat Ne pay for. They haveget out . [,Je 've added a ncw
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Hamburg. It'6 a littlc b!.t hardcr gctting paoplc out herc
n9 better and wc havc a lot of opcnlngs ln cverything fromginecring but this ls not going to bc conduciva to our growthassembly to cn
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Iunch tlmcs. They like to ualk. They like toIunch apace brith morc wi ndow. l,lore plaza .air conditioned facilitics. t,€ try to do theo mcdium company. Thcy do like to get out andiva to that at aII and I r.rould be goinE againstny part in not opposing this strongly.ted this ltcm. This tralnlng center inshort distance off of a tcll driven road. Thisn Plymouth is not a good cxample. l.le see andis not. I think thet unit i
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bout the disruptions. I'vc rcthought lbout tho corner lreashink lt urould become morc of a dangcrous, serious situation
and our future expansion plans for additlonal offlcc buildinss and I thinkthese are more in tine with the office park. Thank you.
Erhart: Thanks Al .
Hugh Jaeger: l1r. Chairman and the Planning Commission, f'm Hugh Jaegcr,rttorney from Edina. I represcnt Pl.lT Corporatlon. I also reporesent EmpakCorporation. Al asked me to coms out tonight and chat and therc are a
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conditional use or another type of use. tlhat tlll it IcEd to next?
open the door to this type of use, you can bc essured that other peopwiII be knocking on the door. I was asking AI somc of the other exceI thought people could comc alone with and I'Il just cut it short thelook at' the IOP which the Chanhassen area has as a clean technologyindustrial park. Everyone uho is there is guite clcan. There is lis
speaks about. Ipart of this wee kthere uere a lot oft to. l.ly f irst
ought that would be -
of people lead to our quality of life as our eovernorcalled the city employees this past r.reek, or the first
and chatted r.,ith them and suggestcd to them I thoughtother areas this type of a strtion could be placed nex
thought I had was next door to cit), hall itself. I than ideal place since people could take care of thcir c
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number of areas I can dwell on but it's getting ]ate and I'm sure allyou r^rould like to get home as I wiII so I'lI make it short and sHeet.is concerned about the IOP designation itself if the area is rezoned
manufacturing going on. High tcchnology. A number of sophisticaled group
ity businass here as
r,rel I as anything else they have to do. Possibly along TH 5. l,laybe
somewhere inbettreen Chanhassen and Eden Prairie ltself along TH S. I waspolitely told that they realIy felt that the lots aloilE TH 5 h,ere more for-
commercial business use. I look at the problems of coming in, not only t.hzoning problems itself but that the property valucs Hill be going down. Iasked lhe city employee if they had ever becn to a vehicle testing station-themselves. I guess they had not they really said. lly parents reside in
have a number of vehicle inspeetion stations there. I
dad and I take our car down, we llke to be first onesthey uiII have anyuhere from 20 to 1OO cars lined up. Ie summary here, but I'm talking messive llnes of bars. Iis really r.lhat the IOP xas planncd for. The clean
nd they
when my
gatth
k this
t 8:oo
Delaware a
know that
down and a
was lookindon't thin
technology look of ]ooking at people comlng and coing out. I checked with-some of the other residents on Audubon Road. They wcrc talking about thetraffic congestion and some of the other problcms and the Lack of stoplishls on TH 5. I personally know one pcrson, mysclf on TH S r.rho uas in a-serious accident there a couplc of ycars ago and I xould hate to see alarge pile of bodies form, fhe highwsy itself I think is congested at thispoint and it just can't handle this type of traffic going through anindustrial park. I think bctwecn 8:OO in thc mornlng and S:OO at night, -
betuJeen the trucks that do cAress and ingress in and out of the park, theris enough traffic aoing ln and out rlght now t.hat you don.! need tosignificantly add to it. Something I'vc found l,,as intercsting myself isthat the people said thcy're going to bc submittine a summary tomorroel . fthought it uould have bcen morc timely to have submittcd a summary inadvance so everyone could lnspcct the documents along the uay. I'II 9oahead and not dwell on the lcaal lssues tonicht but r fcII it,s a pandora'-Box. You rezone one parcel in the IOp, erhat,s it goln9 to do to the otherparcels al.ong the uay and you rcally havc, uhat they,ri asking for ispotential change of the uholc character i zltlon of thc rop and what wiIIth.t do to the property values along the r,!y lnd whcn the fop h,asestablished was that rcally thE true intcnt of the zonins of the IOp. Idon't really think it uas if you look at the cxisting buildings going up, _It's devoted to clean tcchnology. noL vehiclc repair stations. Even thougithis is not going to be a vehicle repair Etation, it's going to be vehicletesting but vehicle testlng mcans vehlcles comlng and parking, Lines.People and all of t h.e other aundry things thlt go on. ttith aII duerespect to our city cmployecs urho have checked urith othcr vehiclc testingstations in other surrounding communities, I think lf you go off to the
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east coast and look at vehicle inspection stations trun by the State, even though they.re not run by pri
a very much more differcnt story than I've seen prot
see that that Hould do nothing but devalue the propethink the intent is thcre. I'll akip a lot of my ot
almost uniformily those tcsting stations arc safetare State run, They are not cmissions testing stavery differont process. A much Iongcr proc€ss totest than it is here. The time to do one here isto handle one of these. In terms of uhether itrsbuilding basically has tuo types of Gquipment. Cexhaust and dynanometers for making surG that tho
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here , especially thosevate contractors, it'srayed mysclf and I justrty here and I don,ther arguments for alater time or reserv€ those for submisslon at a latcr time. I,m sure ueall want to get home. Thank you.
Erhart: Thanks Hugh. Anybody clsc?
tralter Rockenstein: l,lr. Chairman my name is traltor Rockenstcin.attorney representing Systcms Control and I'd likc to respond tothe points that have been made and try to confine mysclf to thcthe zoning ordinance and the chang€ that,s belng proposcd. I guuork backwards. First of all a few of l,lr. Jaegcr rs comments asI can. His reference to the long Iines and problems wilh testinin the east where f r.lent to law school and lived for a number oy testing st.tions only.go through th2 minutcs on! cloan tochn
I'm ana few ofissue of
css I'llrapidly as
9 stat ions
year s ,ions and
hat 's a
safety
he average
logy , theread the
ft
T
et
o
homPutcrs. ehic
se crrs that fail the testthe first time are warmed up properly to take thG tcst the second time andif they fail it the second time, thcy havc to 9o g€t the car fixed
someplace else. Not on the aite. Therc's no vchicle rcpair done on thesiie. As to the issue of clcanliness and noise, r.lc have provided you r.tithstudies by Dr. Braslau uho does this rcaularly. Hc has providcd you l,ith,specifically Hith noise contours bascd on the stato Noise codcs which showthat the noise contours permittcd in this type of zone do not reach outsidethe property Iines of this property. He's also provided you specificallywith information on the i,npact on air guallty. Not on the sitc butactua]Iy on the Pt,lT site which shows that those lcvels are far belou theState standards. Thethe impact on people uare talking about a fa
andard based onpollution so ue
advanced andtraffic engineerthc streets in
qui Le clean , l.Jhen we
wi l.L be happy to discu
o have theof pcople
t, I've neverdid not have my
nd I hiL theparticular ly
looking for it by sign
been in that i ndustri!
the area and I think h
capacity to take the t
map in front of me. Itesting station on the
r thcort.
standards arc a health based ste susceptibl€ to carbon monoxidey uhich is tcchnologicelly qultc
o thc spcclftc slte lssucs, oure trafflc flows, the capaeity ofI demonstratc that lhe str.ats dc and uc r.rill avoid thc problem
Frankly I drove out hcrr tonighk. I drovc out in thc dark. fonly th. namcs of th. streets at try in thc dark. It iB not aou como down TH 5 from thc .!st,ourre thcrG at tha tcsting stati
9e on thc State Routc and on th6Placc to rcach coming from eithelch we will provide thc full rep
te te
sthHil
aff i
96.
Par
k ncwfirs
ndv
icna
asyIuhedf
rro9Jlc u
you go don. lf t
County R
eas
t,e
helytatioot be
noc t
or tonig. Our a
ses that vehlcle testing s
difficult place to f in
CR 17 and across park
supplemented by clearit should be a fairlythe west. Our appraiscouldn't get it assembreport to the City tom
terms of other comparatestine stations and h
imPact on ProPerty val
S
h
c
g
s
6
r
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d
a
s
C
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o
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o
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ht's meetlng, tle'lI providc tppralser revicwcd thls carcfulns, I icensrn advers
o the zoni
determlned that lh€re lould ncs for making this kind of cha
ounhat is
oute ,!or
simplyfullin
eng. In
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short L,e disagree with the points raised by Mr. Jaeger and Hr. Iverson. pe-
believe this can be a good neighbor and we have provided for you
lnformation which is in your packet I believe from othcr, both fromIIIinois and Haryland uhich indicates that around those testing stationsthere has been a continued gror.,th of industrial districts h,here they'reIocated in industrial districts. In office dlstrlct districts r.rherethey're Iocaled in office districts and indeed Ehcrc they're locatedadjacent to residences, there's cvcn been lncrcase in the amount ofresidential development around thcse testing statlons. l''lr. Krzyuicki justtold me that in fact one of their ones in Illlnois ls Iocated on a smalllake immediately across from a professional buildinc and thcre's not been
an adverse impact on the profcssional building so we do not agree urith the-characterization of this as somcthing that'6 going to have an adverse
impact on the ability to develop the surrounding land and ue think l,tr. Uban
made that clear in his presentation. tle xill be more specific about thesite plan when that comes up. Thank you.
Stan Krzywicki: MayKrzywicki. I'm th6State run operationgoing to be getti ng
tle 're going to have
coming off t.he stree
I
im
fu
rh
a
L
comment to that? Since lre are, my name is Stanplementation mlnager. Since uc'rc going to be ally signed uith an information office, you're not
ill be more likely to come to our facility than,
se calls. wc ulll . l.le're going to have a phone.ublic rcstroom there so the p6ople that have been
o
P
Sue Krienke: One phone and one rcstroom can handle how many people?
Emmings: I have a feeling lro can do lt cithcr bray rnd it docsn't matterbut I Lhink we'd probably save somc tim6 lf ue erot commGnts on avcrythingbecause I think re've probably hcard Just about cvcrything.
Erhart: Alright. Is there any othcr comment thcn on thc conditional useand the specific sitc plan thlt rr.'rc looking at?
Erhart: Okay, thanks 1.1r. Rockanstsin. Anybody alse?-
Sue Krienke: I'd like to comment...regarding thc signs. ue,re not so muc..
concerned thAt people are Eoing to have troublc finding the station. Theroads are goinE to be well markcd likc you said but r{hst about what other -things are they going to be looking for uhile they're in there? How manytimes are they going to knock on our door looking for McDonald,s or
dountouln chanhassen or use the tclcphon€ or usc the rcstroom facilities?
Erhart: Thank you. Anybody elsc?
Erhart: Okay that's, f think Ne'll dlscuss that hcrc lf ue,ve got any morequestions on it but f guess a proccdural discussion hcrc. t guess my poin-
here uas to esscntially leave opcn tho public hcarlng for the ordlnancechanse and I guess uhat I uas thinking of doing ls closing that anddiscussing that and f guess passing on that beforc uc proceed to the site -plan or to the conditionrl usc pcrmit. Is that thc lay you see it paul orthe other commissioncrs? Is thcrc ! r€ason to go ahcad rnd treat them allin lump?
Gary tlelch: I 'm Gary l,lelch. I 'm Tlm's partncr . I run IIC. In one of thugentleman's comments he uas Eaylng that it would takc 2 ninutcs to check
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our car. Is the traffic then 1 car cvery 2 minuteIs that a correct assumption? At lcast? I mean y
back-up r i sht?
dourn the road?that urou I d be no
Erhart: If I remember the report rieht it was 8OO cars a day.
El Ison: 4OO .
Krauss 3 They have theirto that.
Dennis Palmer: Can I address that?
Erhart: sure .
s going
ou know
traffic consultent hcre urho I think uould rcspond
Dennis PaImer: Ethst's the capaci
less lhan that.particular stat io
there won't be th
h lane is capablc of testing ah averege of 1car...soof the station... Number of vchicles uill be someuhaebuild our stations to exceed thc capacity. Thisis over 25Ot caplclly of th6 avcrige daily volume so
much so He can ccrvice cars as thcy come in.
. Then I would expoct an lnundation of maybe a couplea day. l.Jhat kind of assurance th.t this is not going tot kind of affect it's going to have on acccss to TH 5 from
ac
LY
l.le
n
at
Gary Welch: f guess my comment r.rould be that I kind of agree r.rith thepeople f rom Pt'lT that the industria] park is a nice. rclativel)z quiet par k.I was just in here on zoning on our buildine and I havc to say thatChanhassen as a whole has done a real good job on making the industrialpark look good and if you go around to the oLher surrounding communities,and compare them, you'Il see that Chanhassen Lakes is probably one of thebest looking and urell planned industrial psrks in thc area. To pqt r carevery 2 minutes on all the roads I think would grcatly diminish theindustrial Park. t^ihy everyone is out thcre. It is klnd of a nice locationto go to r^ror k to. There's ponds. Thcre's trces and I don't think that
amount of traffic, I mean uhy uould you build a st.tion that can tes! 3cars every 2 minutes if you're not planning in thc futurc of hsvinE 3 carseveyr/ 2 minutes 90 throuEh thc thing? That to me is an ar.lful lot oftraffic to be diverting off of and doun those roads. That's all I had.
Erhart: Thanks. Anybody else?
Dick Hellstrom: Maybe just a littlc follow-up hcrc. On thc say it r.ras eOOcars a
i mpact
out ove
doun thgoing tthe 8OO
month r.lhen everybody now knous that lt's Novembcr 3Oth and before I cen get
my nelr tabs I've got to €,et in therc !nd. I forgot to do lt. I,vc been
day and lf it was spread ovGr...it uroul.dn't bc such a significantbut what kind of guarantce or assurancc do le hrve that it is spreadr a r.rhole day? ...they all comc in at 8345 .nd 8:SO all tha Hayrough the day? It doesn't uork that way. I would think people areo go r.rhen they're good and rerdy to 90 and thcrc,s no gurrantee when's going to impact. ft r.lould aecm to me also that !t the cnd of the
putting it
thousand c
happen andt7.
off
ars
r^r ha
Erhart: And your name is?
Dick Hellstrom: Otck Hellstrom.
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Erhart: So we're going to get the traffic report.
AJ.an Klugman: Thank you. tly nam6 is Alan Klugman. I'm a trrffic engineer_with the firm of t,eslwood Professional Scrviccs ln Eden prairic. Ue haveprepared a traffic study for this proJcct xhich tc're submlttlng tonight. -have a numbcr of graphics r.rhlch I,vc summarlzed on overheads. Is itpossible to use those? Haybe I'11 do thcse out of order bcceuse they'Il
someu,hat respond to thc comments that wc,ve alrcady heard tonight. BeforeI begin my more formal remarks I guess I'd like to talk to four specificissues that were brought up tonight. Th6 chart that I'm starting utithwhich uould have appeared Iater ln our presentation r6presents theprojected service volumcs for this sitc durlng thc lifetime of thc program.
As presently contracted, it is a 7 yaar program runnin€l from 1991 thru 1998
Dennis Palmer: Yeah, I'm Dennis Palmer. The rssurance you have sir is thereferences that PauI Krauss and Sharmin rec6ived from the other locations.t,e do, and f am hcre to address the traffic, sincc we are on th6 usequestion. I do want to say for thc rccord that Systems ConLroI accepts thconditions that the staff has racommcnded. l.le also agree to the 5 footsetback. [.le've extended our berm and Ec've provlded more than adequatescreening on the uest side of the property. and lct me addr.ss trafficif I may. Before I introduce Al Klugman from trestxood ProfcssionalServices, he's here. He's a traffic angineer lnd herll addreEs lt further_but I do want to say that our studics are based on peak demands. tle dorealize that people do not come in in cven intervals. These rre peak
demands based on experiences. 1998 lcvels. Howcvcr peak demands don't
occur very often but all the studiss are noise studies, our air qualitystudies, our traffic studies, everything is based on the Horss casesituation. ].re spoke a bit to air quality last time. I think ue've
addressed that adequately. I won't get lnto that. l.lith respect totraffic, we do concede that there xere problems in the Illinois program.
Let me say that as the report indicates, that therc ucre problcms ulith themailings. It's a fundamentally diffcrent program here in l,linnesoLa than it
r.ras in Illinois. In I'tinnesota the appointments or the times that people
r.rere supposed to come in for their tests tere not tied to registrationrener.:aL They r.rere tied to the Stste's distributlon of notlccs. Uhat had
happened is the notices ureren't distributed evenly. That can't happen. -This program is better. It's morc balanced herc nith reglstration renewal6nd they're evenly divided over th6 10 month pcriod. Thcre was also aproblem with openings. Not aII stations opened immcdiately the first date_of the program had begun. That's the reason why some stations lrere overburdened. It's the HPCA's position and they're herc toniEht to say thatfirst hand that no station will open until all stltions arc rcady to open.tlith respect to Lhe Florida program. The Florida program !,as a State run -prog:'arr. It was safety inspection and it l.as grossly undcrsizGd. Thestations uere small and there Heren't cnouEh of them. It was a State runprogram. tJhat Florida did was canccl the program for that rcrson and they-put out a request for proposal and auardcd Systems Control a contracL to d,the emission testing and do it richt. l^,ith respcct to Californir, that'san entirely different proeram. I think Someone menlioned last time thatthere h,as a problem in California. California,s a deccntralizad program. -There's not a conlractor that tests vchicles. They,re done in garages andgas stations so it's just a different program. tJith that, I know it'sgetting latc. I apologlze. llr. Klugman from tlsslwood c.n taka a minuteand tal k about traffic.
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and as you look at the numbers you'll aee grob,th in the program throughoutthat period. Our analysis r.rill focus on the final year rhich uiII be thehighest traffic year. both for the subJcct site and the surrounding area.And to run
ment ioned
1998 He se
typical av
uhere Lhevehicles i
engi neer i n
To step ba
As part ofthis proje
out throug
hor,r far vehicles need to drive t
analyzed and uorked throuEh, thethe requirements of the State gu
system of 11 testinE sltes spreaprojected service volume in cach
peak hour of the area roaduays and
roaduays is typically about 40* of
r.re 'r e tal. ki ng i n the neierhborhoodtraditional roadway peak hour whlc
complimentary use in that respcct.
hls tablc, uhat re see, re'v. hcard the number Booxe look at the top figure thcrc, the average day inof 405. That rcpr€senLs 4OS vchlcles served on athroughout the course of thc ycar and I belicve that'sis coming froir in that ycs, it does reprcsent 4ootc and 4OO vehiclcs out of thc site. Trafficthat 8OO trips. It's 4OS trlps that are being served.nd see e,,here that 8OO or that 4OO numbcr comes from.tract Hith the Stlta of l,linncsota and the proposal foreloped a program which involvcs 11 testing sites spreadetropolitan ar€a. It's a vcry sophislicEted program
through ttoday. If
e a number
eraere day
8OO number
g, ue call
ck a bit a
ct. SC dev
hout the m
nto the si
their con
lhat they go through. It's obviously computer based. It,s based onpopulation statistics and grotrth. Vehiclc rcgistrations and locations ofthose vehicle registrations and so fort
ch
VC
in
oa
Yd
idedt
of
in
thcofahlsst
!
e
I I
e
h and thc rcquired service times,of the sitcs , l.lhen aI I that is
oped a aystom that in order to meets, the Statc request for proposal . aghout the Tb,in Cities uith the
sG aitcs, So the 4O5 vehicles that
hrou
tho
Lre see represents the cxpected amount. maximum amount using the Chanhassensite in the final year of the program. I think it's inport.nt to say thatif a question comes up, uill that numbcr grow? Can it be under proj-ected?
Because of the flexibility of the distrlbution of thc sites throughout themetropolitan area, for example thcre's a site in l.linnetonka. ue're notgoing to have people driving from l,linnctonka, from St. Paul, fromBloomington, etc. to come into this sitG. Therc.s not unlimited potentialfor growth but moving down through thosc numbcrs and carrying them out tothe end of the table, the 4O5 vchiclcs rcpresents a typical average day.
Based on the other sites that SC op€raLca throughout the country andtypical driver behavior, I think many of us have done it ourselves, norepeople tend to renee, towards the cnd of a licensinE pcrlod. Touards theend of the month so thc lrst 5 days of the month l.thcn they knot theregistration is due. Therefore, if r.re look at lhc pcak period day ure seean increase that reprcscnts the last 5 days of thc month. Thcy,re designsfor internal operations rre based off of thosc numbers. AII our analysisfor traffic operations on the surroundlng arca lrc based on that as well.If we then carry that down to the 10 hour sorking day ue aee that- the 199Afinal year, 632 trips in a day reprcs.nta 63 in e typical hour. If ue lookat the peak hour ue would havc 88. That rcproscnts e pcakingcharacteristic rrithin this site. I knox you'vc all rcvicwed many trafficstudies for various typcs of dcvelopmcnts and lt's ver)r important to keepdaily traffic away from or separatc the lssue of dally traffic from peak
hour traffic. In any traffic study r{c try to accuratcly definc uhat is thepeak hour and urhat componcnt of daily traffic docs lt reprcsrnt? In thecase of lhe testing sltes and S),stcms Corporation has a r.rcalth ofexperience and background dlta on that, they found that the peak hoursverases betlreen 1O:OO !.m. and 11:OO !.m,. It do.s not colnclde uith thefact the p.ak hour of the areapcak hour thet H€ urould see there so
bout 40 vchlclcs servcd durlng the
4:3O to 5:3O p.m. so it's definitely
cpping back to some of the other
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issues that Nere raised. One more i
vehicles served per minute. In no er
day every 2 minutes a vehiclc shows
rcgarding rates. The rate of 2
oes that imply that throughout thes served and then lcaves. Thatstates that that is how long lt takes to perform a test. I believe the
ssueavduPi
is rhat makcs thiFortion of thatvehicle in 2 min
number approximate 250*-258t over capacity is uhat this slte is because ita case where cvery 2 ninutGs a vohiclc arrivcs and is serveois not in factbut in the busi
adways .onto the adjoini ust like to very qI r.,o
gh some additionavery quicklY Eo
e
approximately an even distrof course and repr esenti ng
ur i.n the busicst timc othe busicst 15 mi nutcs
f the day ln the busiestthat ability to serve afunction xithout backing up
rcsponds to some of the
st ho
hour,
utes
n9 rould j
throu
I be I iev
site
that
s
e
quest i ons .
surrounding area roaduay sitcs aoriginallv had so certainly I'd
have slides for some of this sotime. Presently I think as b,e afashion by Th 5 uith correspondiRoad. tte've all talked about thefficient access to the sitc. T
dangerous conditions on Park Drithat is a way that vehicles cancalcul6tions have we assumed tha
approximately 72.6
4 ,600 and nudubonprevious graphic wIf we spl it thosesite is centered i
am 9oin9 to edit down uhat Ipen to gucstions on the mlterial . Ill not shou them now for the sake of
nou this site is servcd in a major
ccess from County Road 17 and Audubongnin9 program and'how that trill insure-'s bsen reference made to possible
here it lntersects fH 5. Yes in factss to thc site. In none of ourhicles had to access .that u,ay. [.1e've
ars on a daily basis. County Road 17 ls at aboutis !t about 2,OOO. If you rccall back to the
owed 568 vehicles using the sitc on a daily basis.
he tr.ro main approach roadways and glven that thisgeographic ar
butlon
het !s
uickly, I understand it's late but -I matcrial tre havc rcaarding the
hat it's due to scrve, hre expectuay. l.re've roundcd our 568 to 57os ln, xc aee approxlmltely 57O
ndIbeo
Iwill k
n9a
Gsi
here
vo t{
accatve
assigned vehicles out to CR 17 and Audubon Road uhere they'd be signed
knowing that possibl), some local people Hould use Park Orivc but thosewould be the people familiar r.lith the roadr.,ay. Using thase assumptlons infulure traffic arowth uhich could appcar ln lhe area,.in fact f uould liketo show graphics for that. This graphic rcprGsenls existlng trafficvolumes in the area. Sources are the l.linnesota HiEhnay Oepartment, citydata and additional studies that u,e've done in other traffic counts instudies done in this area, tl€ can se6 lhat prcsently TH 5 carries
OOc
Roa desh
totna itt
o
It
Y
s
n
eat
eachtripvehicles addedof north and so
regaids to theit's important
Prsses any one
both Coun
so half
k Road, s
r emembercel or an
roadway widths, Park Road tof traffic in each directio
shows the addition ofprojected traffic baseTransportation and Lanthe iray out to the yea
y Road 17 and to Audubon Road. That's a total -f that. about 28O in cach dircctlon. Innc. thc sitc ls located on Park Road I thinkhat the traffic is split. only half of it
one location on Park Road. fn tcrms ofa 44 foot road prcsently stripcd for one lane. l.hyb. if uc ao to the nsxt sI lde . Tha!traffic from the tcsting site on top of 199ad on thc aastern Carvcr County Comprchcnsived Use Study uhich prcparcd trafflc proJections allr 2O1O. In sunmary, at th6 end of thc testinc periodriod for this sitc rc fcel that thare's adequatey systams to serve thcse volumes both nlth the groultl,
other parcels in thc area and this specific parccl ,a Sysg.ms Control testing sltc or any oLher use ln -
commont that TH 5 a6 you recall has bcen expandedrairlc Road. That Has complctad this ycer and byout to.nd through thc intcrsectlon of CR 17
to
uth
Par
to
Par
that hiill occur due to
Lhe 7 year contract pe
capacity on thE roadua
uhether i! develops asthis area. 1.,e Hrnt tofrom 494 out to Eden P
1992 will be completed
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providing additional capacat Audubon Road and at Parin this areat h,e've anticithe very near future, cert
some of those concerns. Again ln 6ummary ue feel the surrounding roadwaysystem can carry the traffic. I nould llke to talk to one last item and ifyou could, it's the very last graphic !e have thers and that rcprcsents thecirculation on the site and abillty for the sit€ to handle it,s projected
demand. As part of their submittal to the State of Hinnesota. SC did every deatiled compuLer model of uhat xc call cueing or stacking, servicerates, times in cue, etc. to prove that their site had adequate capacity
and as they stated, has abou! 2 L/2 LLn.s the capacity. The model they useis a proprietary model that they've dsvclopcd. Since lre h,er. not able touse that we went to our standard traffic cngineerlng source books which
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here. There's been comments on operationsv6. In other studies that ure've conductedtraffic signalization on Audubon Road inby probably 1992 and that nill alleviate
elso have cueing models applicable to any typc of sitc, drivcfood restaurant, etc.. tle took tha proJccted 1998 data for thtook the busiest t hour on the busincst month. The busiest dabusiest month. Busiest t hour so this is uhen everyone,s doinreg!strations on the last day and lrc aald brith this Eivcn capat-his site handle the expected dcmand? I aet my peramet€rs versaid in that busiest t hour hou many cars uould ue need to bcon the site so that b,e had only a 1t chance that at one timc dhour, not for the errtire hour but at onc timc the back-up toul
Al fverson: Real quick, Hc's showlng 1Ot gror.lth ir'crning r.e werc talking about a lot morc growth thayears, I don'! belleve it. Their pcak pcriods araperiods. I mean this is rcllly golng to b. rough.
bank, fastsite. t,ef theheiry. couldough. Ie to cue
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abluridoall the lanes to the back cueing arca of thc site. If you run thosecalculations, I did this independently. I came out r.lith the nced to store23 cars on site. That's a maxlmum that you r.,ould have to for the given
demand at the very peak time. tl.asur€ment of the sitc indicatcs that u,ecould store 54 cars at a rather. gencrous 25 foot storlge per car uhich iswhat we typically assume at signalized intersections. I think on a sitelike this where Lraffic is not movlng t'ast and so forth, we could stacktl-em even close but the point is, xith my ealculations on cueing theory.standard cueing lheory acccptcd ln thc traffic cngineering profcssion, ne
shoE that the site itself could handlc, could 6tore tbrice the maximumsnticipated demand at the €nd of the contract period. So again, to
sumr.arize the site itself l.,e feal thcrc's adequate stacking distance andoperational disLance on that sit€, As I said when I began my ramarks, tdid have more material. I did want to kccp it bricf. I hopcfully haven'tIeft out any questions lnybody has but I can address thosG as ucll.
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Erhart: tlhat, the 1O!OO to 11:OO? Is thlt uhat you'rc sa)zing?
Al fverson: tle break 1O:OO to 11!OO. |1y brcak's right thcrc rnd I thinkjt's quite explanatory. Dlck Hcllstrom's been norklng on buildings for 23years. In my opinion is, my pcrsonal oplnion is that that's rcally goingto affect property values in our buslncss.
Erhart: Tim, have you got somcthlng?
Erhart: okay, thanks very much. AI . you had something quick?
Tim Raschlager i I Euess I have a couple concerns.to worry about a little border around a dumpster.
uncomprehenable. To not know about it I'm also, Iof that actually.
One is L,e came tonight_
The scope of this isdon't know uhat to make
Erhart: Excuse me Tim, that's a good point. tJho did r.re notify? Did wenotify everybody ln the Industrial park?
Erhar!: To me that's not appropriate.
Tim Raschlager: To m6, our investment in that park, for someone like us iour life. l.,e personally for example aren't unusual to Iike the radiatorcorrpany on the corner there or the two little shops next to him or thepeople across the streeL and on r biggcr scope these people but ue'veinvested a million dollars into that piece of property, Our whoLe ]ife.And I love the people that oun it. I love Roman and it,s a nicc aree butI'm shocked as I sit here tonight. I'm shockcd. I,m- devastaied. The-figures on the highway, r don't naed to put a picce of rubber ecross theroad to do a highr.ray count on park Drive. 3,ooo cers is, it's off a digit.It's off a O. Park Drive is a very guiet road that runs thcrc. There'inot ' he had 3'oco cars thera and he had some other ratlo on TH 5 that lhenumbers make no sense at all. The peoplc do aII ualk out on brcak. Infact I envision the day on that park when we take that littl€ pond which is,a beautiful site and maybe put a littlo r.lalking path around it. There,s avery high density of people there durins the dty that aren't moving' "r""pifor to mavbe take a lunch break. Take a wark doun the road. several ofour people take a walk every day. His very flgures potnted out l car a -minute on the peak days. He's arguing 2 but his very figures on lhe board€re 1a minute. I think thc park |ras never intended for that. l.te'redevastated to have ended up in a mcetinE that }16 uercn't cxpcctcd to beinvolved in and r think there's lack of preparation herc on the part of alof us and I think the seriousness of this malter, the scope of the mattersnd the investments of the people in that neighborhood need to be strongly-considereC.
Erhart: Thenks Dave. Apprcciatc your coming out tonight.
tJiIdermuth: Are these numbers thatconsistent h,ith ..Jhat you knot to beIow. 5 parts per million. 7 parts
offcred for carbon monox idecese? They seem awfully, awfullvmillion.
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Al-Jaff: l.,lithin 5OO feet of that site.
Erhart: Thanks Tim. Anything elsc? Anybody else?
Dave Kelso: Thank you Mr. chairman, mcmbcrs of the comnlsslon. t{y name iDave Kelso. I'm with thc pollution Control Agency. Also is Barb jackson
from the Pollution control Agcncy and ue are here tonleht primarily to makeourselves avallable to the commlssion to answer any questions you iar.about the program. r nould rike to reslate uhrt |.tr. 'palmir said earlierthat it is the Pollution control Agency's posltion that the ihanhassenfacilitv uould not open untll th. r.st of thc facirities in oui nctwork ar-operational. t,hcn the formal presentations are done rd be glad to ansh,erany queslions.
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Cavid Braslau: Hy name is David Brrslau. I'm the one xho did the airquality studies. Typically at th6 carbon monoxide monilor in downtownMinneapolis, back in the 70's hre were getting readings about just over 9ppm. Nor,l te're doHn to about 3 ppm ln downtown l{inneapolis and tha!'s onHennepin Avenue. Generally in suburban areas uhen lre look atconcentrations next Lo h€avy interscctions, re gct aomcwhere in the orderof 4 end 5 ppm. So it's really for a suburban arca, it's quite a highconcenlration but yet it's well bclou the 9 ppm standard. And again, Ishould point out that the 9 ppm standard is an I hour standard. Is aconcentration that you can be exposcd to, that, an infcrim parson can beexposed to for I hours a day on a rcgular basls uithout any harm and the 1hour concentration is 3O ppm and !r.,ra far, far bclow tha!.
l^,,ildermuth: Do you look at carbon dioxide and nitrous oxide as well?
Oavid Braslau: No we don't. Yhat's carbon dioxide is not consideredgenerally a micro pollutant. That might be a macro pollutant in terms ofgl obal r.larmi ng .
t,ildermuth: It's just that you can't 3urvive in it right?
oavid Braslau: But carbon monoxids is actually, in hish concentrations canbe lethal and therefore it is considcred a pollutant.
Erharti Thanks. Anybody clse? If not, I'd cntcrtain a motion to closethe publ.ic hearing for the ordinance amcndment.
Emnings: okay. Thrt Hasn't the public hearing for rho I c?
again but I ncver didopen that and close it quick
E I lson: And I 'l I second it .
Emmings moved, EIIson seconded to close thc public hcaring for thc Zonin!,Ordinance Amendment to lmend Scctlon 20-?71 and Scctton 2O-a14. nll votidin favor and the motion c.rricd un.nlnoualy- Thc public hcaring rasclosed.
Erhart: Okay, lct'6 just talk about the ordinancc chsnge first and make arecommendation on that and then ue can quickly, lf lt's allorged, lhen wecan move quicklv onto the conditional usc pcrmit ltsclf. So h,ith that,Iet's see, Joan do you r.llnt to stert?
Ahrens: I just had one quG6tion on that. And this ls rddressed to thegentleman...how oftcn arc the thlngs that,..chccked for compliance? Areyou the ones that test for complirncc?
Oeve Kelso: Our agency does a lot of work contlnuousl)r throughout thel,tetroplitan area of carbon monoxidc, aulphur dioxidc. particulates !nd !few other minor pol lutants,
Er hart : I 'I I have to
open it for thaL.
Emmings: I'Il move that it's close.
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Ahrens: But this is a neu deal'we're dealing Nith nour. fgoing out on a regular basis? Once every 6 monlhs or once
Dave Kelso: ]^lell we have a permanent ln place monitoring that continuousl.,monitors. tle don't go out to speclfic locatiqne unlGss thcre's an actualreason to. Unless I'm misundcrstandi n9 your question.
mean are you
a year?
Ahrens: Yes.
Dave Kelso:
will mon i tor There is athe i ndoor
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levels
monoxide monitor at the facility itself thas-of carbon monoxide.
Ahr e ns I But
do we know?
that's like the fox...chickcn coop a llttle bit. f mean how
Dave Kelso: It's a requirement of OSHA.
tlildermuth: But who monitors that?
Dave KeIso: ttoni tors that?
'r ii ldermuth: Yes.
Ahrens: f mean it's not automatleally transmltted to somc office at
Dave Kelso; Oh I see. No, the data is collcctod and Hill be storedcornputer system at the Pollution Control Agency. Through our normalauditing procedures we'Il be chccking that data lnd that informationrout ine basi s .
Ahrens: t"lhat is your routine basts for a ncw typc of opcration?
Dave Kelso: Thst hasn't becn fully cstebllshcd but .t this point ueenvision visiting cach facility oncc a pcck.
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Ahr€ns: tlell, maybc PauI can ansucr this. Part of the conditional usepermit standards ue havc to 96t a State and Federel air and noise standardashall be complied with. Hour do Hc know thaL?
Dave Kelso: f'm sorry, do you naen !t the propoacd tcst facility itself?
Deve Kelso: No, uJe uil,I not be checking to ace lf thc outdoor cir quality_
siandards or the outdoor noise standards are belng complied ulith. t.le,lI br-checking L,hether or not the facillty ls running ln conJunction and incompliance with the contract and that lhe carbon monoxide levels in theEujlding are meeting OSHA standards. I think you,rG asking xhether He'rc -soing to be monitoring the affect of th6 program and wc'Il be looking atthe affect of the program but th6 cpccific carbon monoxide levels at cv.rytest facility thet point up or down dgpcnding on thc arca.
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Ahrens: PauI, maybe you can cxplain this. It's 11:3O. Am I missingsoniething or am I hearing...
Krauss: I think I know xhat you'rc drlving at. As a condition of theconditional use permit they're rcqulrcd to malntain a certain quality ofeir and noise emissions and not Gxco.d that. tlho's going to monitorthat? The proposal as it now stands ls tha! ue could r€quir€ them to domonitoring if we believe a problcm cxists.
Ahrens: How do you know a problcm axists though?
Krauss: Typically it's becausc rlc'rc either made aware of it through
complainL or it's something that x6 axperience ourselvcs.
Ahrens: So it hron't be a monitoring proccss?
Krauss: No. It nill be a rcsponse to rn lssuc. I suppose one could be
more proactive at least at the outset rnd raquire a 6 month update orsomething like that.
Alrens: I urould think that that uould be ncccssary . . . bccause that seems tobe the big concern of everyone. I don't havc anything else.
t,ildermuth: First of all I'd like to sso oomc calculations as to how manytons of carbon monoxide uill be produced. I'd like to see some isopl.otsfor carbon monoxide concentration around this immediate arca. I guess I'dlike to hear from a State ...ologist rcgardlnE the affccts that differentlevels of carbon monoxide concentratlon. I'd like to know uhat thedirection of the prevailing nind is end uhat the velocity ls in thatlccatior, as to how the pollutants nill be carried away. I don't know uhatthe investment is in the S),stems Control t.sting station but I suspect that!t is nor^rhere near PHT's investment or Paisley Park'a invcstmcnt and Ithink our first concern uilh tho lndustrlal park has to be Hith thosepeople who are already there and uho arc already paying taxes. on theother hand I do think that H€ nced to flnd a location for a vehicle teststetion in Chanhassen. This just ls not the location. I don't knor.r ifyou've looked at a number of oth€r locatlons or rhat klnd of cffort you putinto finding a location but I don't thlnk this is one. l.le'vc Aot anexcellent industrial park. tl6've attractcd som. first class occupants inthat park and I uould not rant to do somcthing that eppoars to bc socontrary to their wishcs. In t.rms of ordinance changing, in terms of
zoning changing and I don't know how to do that without letting Eom€thingllke this into our existlng industrial park. Business Highway rnd IOP seemto be logieal places for a faclllty Ilkc thls to be locatcd. The problcmis hour do ue pass an ordinance to allor that but kecp thcm out of aparticular location they're looklng at and keep them out of this particularindustrial park. That's thc qucstlon. I thlnk a facility lika this should
be immediately edjacent no moro than probably 2oo yards from e majorart.erial . I think it oughL to be vcry rcadily accessible. It ought to be
r,ear E signaled intersection. I rgrcr uith, I don't recall your name but I
agree urith you. If there hasn't becn a fatality up ther. on Audubon, thereprobably will be soon or around that mlni golf couree. Those aredefiniLely problem areas. If tho tcst fectllty has to 90 lnto the locrtionthat ue're looking at, I think onc of the conditions absolutcly has to bethst there's a signal on TH 5. ...I thlnk that our homeHork has really
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been done here in locating thislike this doesn't present a healstrategic issues that you look a
exanple pollutant isoplots and pthat. You look at the aame kindthis that you do uhen you site a
and that hasn't been done.
thins. I'm not convinced that a facilityth hazard and I think that there are some -t in siting something like this. Like forrevailing r.rind velocities and thines likes of things }Jhen you sitc Eomethine like
Power Plant or a 6awa9e tr€atment plant
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Erhert: Okay, thanks Jim. Annctte?
Actually I'm concerncd about the air cuality. f piclure this. you
b,ere telking last tim6 about the drive lhru at l,lcDonald,s ore like that and I xas the one before that thought thc Business
was probably the most approprlate just because of the conveniencee trying to get and the in and out lcccss and things like that butinformation that's coming forward, the more I'm Icss opposed to i-re. I guess I don't sce a lot of homer.lor k on the other side.fore it gets to City Council therc would be but th.re,s a lot of.at haven't been vcrified and maybe I r.rould suggest that thosetry to get more facts before it goes to City Council. l'iaybe thaLeleware was just an cmission only and ue could find some concreteof emission only type testing that has you know failcd and hasn'the community well. I need more of a 6hado!., of a doubt than I had -
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Hant people wal ki n.,re cen do.
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ome of the ones thadon't quiteunderstand the idea of people asking questions and r don,t knoH that chis -would necessarilv incrclse that. r think if a person is coing herc andthey're uraiting anyway, that probably nould be there they,rc geLting theirinformetion as uell as their bathroom stop 60 I guess I don't scc that as gbig negative but m leaning tob,ards allouing it more because noH all thedata's coming in and thc propcrty valucs haven't been proven to go down an_unless r start sceing more things thet Bay th8t thcy havc, and acain rnaybewe'll find that out bv citv council but r don't sce lt in.front of me ti-rat-the fears are conflrmed but r nould suggest that th.t kind of homework bedone before it gets th€rG. r think it r.rould bc morc rGadlly elloured. soat lhis point I'm lcaning toward approving it although t think theBusiness Highw.v is pcrfcct but rm lass opposed to the rop but r would beif r could see more cvidence. r m6an r just need nore shadow of a doubtthat it hurt 2 or 3 people's propcrty's then I'd be all for probablyallowing it only ln the busincss hlehway but I'm not secing anything that -says that except for people that think lt,s going to happ.n and then notvery much proof. So thlt's r.lhcre I,m at. Kind of on thc fcncc.
Erhart: Thanks Annettc. Stcvc.
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Emr'ings: tJell this isn't easy. l.le've heard a lot of stuff here tonightand some of it was kind of silly I think but to me ther€,s only, and there
rrr referring to people worricd about people coming to use their bathroom.I don't regard that as being a very subslantive comment but you knotr italmost fits in the BH but that's highly oriented commercial development.That's what the intent statement says and this really lsn't lhat. And theoffice industrial intent section, uhere's the IOp?
El Ison: Here .
Ernmi ngs; The IOP is ]arge scale light industrial r.rhich just doesn't quite
seem to fit and commercial planned development and I don.t even knotr whatth6t is. I've never really looked at that one before but as Annette said,
when you read down through the uses ere p€rmitted and the conditional useswe've designated, it does kind of 6eem to fit in both those areas so Ithink ure've targeted the right ones and I thlnk it can go in either. And
rrherr you collect all the data by the uay that Jim wants, make sure you give
riry copy to Jim because I have interest in reading it. I wouldn'turclerstand it anyua),. I assume that our cily engineer can evaluate thatsiuff. He's going to have to for me because I can't. tlhat f hear in this
room tonight is the same thing we hear over and over again and that's ILhink just a standard problem in a developing community. Here rre've got
neighbors who are c'ortent to have the property next door be empty or just
Iike theirs but r€ally don't Hant it to bE different rnd ue hear that when
we do rural subdivisions. The farmers don't Hant the houses in there andthen the big lot developments come,in and then they Hant a smaller Iot
development next door and the folks with the bie lots don,t h,ant the smallIots and it's just endless and nobody seems to r€alize that if the zoninghadn't been changed in the first place, they r.rouldn't have been able tobuild lhere eiLher. It's also kind of amusing that everybody that's
aga j.nst everything here tonight so far has piled up dead bodies on the
hi ghi,.ray . This is the third one ulhere we 've had dead bodics on the highwayand n:aybe they're right. I don't know but it seems to be one of the mostpopular tools for trying to argue against something. f b,as impressed byt,he things that the staff found out from other communities that have thesefacilities. Tha!'s real meaningful and Hhat' they found ouL there uas theyhad problems with these places for the flrst year and then .things h,eren'tso bad. The other thing that th€y found out from thcsc other governmental
units is that this particular outfit, Systcms Control has bcen very easy to
uor-k with. I'm quotinE from the staff report, 'they move fast to resolveand elininate problems and are r€adily avallablc to rork xith State andCity staff to meet demands' so that's lmPressiv€ to me. They 6ound likethey'11 be good neighbors even though you don't $ent them and in fact havethreatened eo sue the clty over...uhich I thlnk ls a littlc stron€' . But inany case, to me there's one issue and that's traffic. That,s the onlythi.ng tha! seems to me Lo be a substantive issue and so far ue've onlyheard their side of that and uhat t hear there sounds reasonable to me. Itdo.,sn't seem like it uiII over burden the loads or anythinE else in thaLar€a so I have no problem either with the, I know I'm supposed to bet"Iking about the condition use permit but these things seen to get wovenLogether and you can't really take them apart so I would support theconCitional use permlt. The one thlng I don't like about them, I franklyCcn", ljke (f). First of all lt says thc State and Federal air and noisestandards will be complied with. ttell they don't have any choice anyway.
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Krauss: n'c.i. that's noL true. I mean you shouldn't exceed those standardsbut things occasionally do.
En,;nings: But they have to uhether He say they do or not. Our saying tha!they have to doesn't add anything to the fact that they have to.
Krauss: tJhat hre're saying is that we uant to
have an additional uray of monitoring,
be in the loop so that ue ca,,
Emmings: So you uant to be able to enforce lt from here?
Krauss: Yeah. I mean che PCA's a very cooperatlve agency with these type-of issues but they deal uith a v€ry large area and at times a community ca'act nrore, be more responsive.
Erlrrrings: The one thing is if problems are found to exist. the property
or,rner is required to pay for testing deemed to be required by the City toclarify the situation. I don't know how Bomebody else said, how are you
9oin9 to know you have a problem until you test and fthd out? It seemskind of arourrci in a circle. I don't understand it real uel.l. That's theonly one that seemed kind of odd. Otherwise I support i!.
Erhart: Okay. In dealing with the ordinance, I guess f don't like tabl.inthings but I think Ehis is one that it does everybody justice by tablingit. I started out pretty neutral on this and I guess f shouldn't have beenrunnins a business in the industrial park. Since that time I've become
ve"-y strong]y opposed to having these types of uses in the industrial park
And I say park, I see this as an issue of the Chanhassen Lakes Industrial
F'ar k as opposed to perhaps h,hat you view it as just another use and where -you best fit it. I think the City, t.le put together the Chanhassen Lakes
Ir,Custr jal Park and u;e defined it as an entity uith certain uses andrestricti.ons and we sold it to businesses coming into Chanhassen that this-
was going to be I park with certain expectations. I think going back andthen changing that, in the first place I don't think that we should make
.i n.v o]'dinarrce change that deals uith that park without notifying everybodyin that park. 'I mean that Eould be the most unfair thing I could imagine -to sit here and not have a complete public hearing uithout inviting all thpeople that are in the industrlal park. Everybody got the same sales pjtch
about r^,hy they ought to go in the industrial park and h,hat they couldexpect in there. Second thine is, if they do come ln and ue've heard teloand now I guess I'll throw m),, ring in therc too, I,Il take it back.- I'mnot a building ouner so I uon't aay lt from that standpoint bue when you
hear from the existing tenants and the existing ol,ners in that park thatthey object to e new use, I don't thlnk, I disagree uith Annette. I don'tthink it's up to thc building owners and the people ln that park to proveto us that it's a non-compatible use. It,s up to them, it's up to this ner-irse to prove that they're a member of thie park. A member of thisasso;iation and I think by the fact that we've got some poople and I would
verrleure to say that ther6's not many people in the park aye very aware of _i,ih.t He're talking about doing, is that it,s not ecceptablb and I thinkwe're going against the commitments thet ue've made to the users andexistina people in the park by making a change that they,re agalnst. I.t,hink thjs is not, He've had eomeone come up here and tcll us thst this is-not a coinmercial use. It doesn't make any difference wheLher the State'sr.aying for the service or the pcrson's priting a check. Somebody's paying
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for some individual to drive in and get a service. rs it any differentthan a gas station? Is it any different than a post office? tJould you puta lice;,se center in the middle and right smack in the middle of anindustrial park? I think it,s clearly a commarcial use. It,s people comeiri, get a service and leave and it's not like eome industrial parks whereyou have a gas station that the intent of th6 gas slation is to servegerrerally the people in that park. This use is intended to serve peoplefrom a broad area. And so it ls clearly in my mind a commercial use andlends itself specificallv for the BH district. Dealing with the traffic inmy mind, that's not Lhe biggest issue. It's the park lssue but a biggerissue is the people walking around in there- Nou I think ue made somemistakes in this park and one is not puttlng sider.ralks in but our employees
arrcl mv uindow faces out there and cssentially during the middle of the daypeople are ualking up and down that street. That ls their, you know thepark has no restaurant in it. Okay so people like, I essume these
empJ.oyers they have lunchrooms and then people go in and bring their baglu:rches or machines and then they 9o out r.ralking for their half hour or a5minutes. People are r.ralking on the streets, There,s.no sideualks thereand I would recommend that in the future for industrial parks re do put
sicieualks in. So adding a whole bunch more traffic at this point I thinkcr,e= irrterfere r^rith that and will significantly change the t.lay this park lsused ar,d so I oppose it for that reason. On th6 other hand the BH districtby lt's rrature is designed to use r€tail traffic. It'6 got the 6topshts. It's designed to deal urith the kind of traffic that comes r.rith the,!r(,elcial use and this is clearly a commercial use and the traffic use Iink proves that out. I think the point is, you know this is a pollutionation but once you allou,, that in the park, as soon as the State regulates've got to have a safely inspection and they come ln here, you're notgoing to say no to the safety inspection. I mean they're all someuhEt the
s.arrie use and so I think th€t, someone mentioned that uell pollutiotr
s':.at-icns dorr 't require because they only reguire 2 minutes and the safetyst-atiorrs is longer, that argumen! actually supported my opposition to thisihirrg. Irr gerreral I've been in this park for 5 years. Going on 5 years
and initially the first buildings that cante in the park h,ere not theg].eatest. over the years as the park has, I don't know if the City's donea g,:,od job selling Lhe park to people or whatever, the quality has improveddrarrratically ih the newer buildings that have gone in. The pHT buildins isreai].y beauti.ful. Som€ of the things are lmproving. tle do have some old
b:ri lo'ings across from me Iike the Auto Unlimited building and so forth,
tt',ey don't f it anywhere and I think this is a step backr.rards in ourincjustrial park to put in essentially a specialized gas station. LastlyI also look at this as a temporary use and I thlnk there,s a r6al dangerthat you could put this temporary, this speciflc gas station in. It'scalled e service station and it t.ton't quite offend as many people but wher.ethis use all of a sudden they lose thelr contract or somehog all of as.,oden you have a building standlng with a bunch of overhead doors in our
i -.6u5+,7 j6l park. t,here you can lease other offlce buildings like ours and:Ic's to other people quickly, this is a very speclfic use building and Idon't think if it's use discontinues, you're not golng to l6ase it toar:yboCv. It's going to sit there until someone devclops that, really tears
i+- doi.,n and does something elee with it. So I think it's an issue. Itt-,ink we have a commitment to th€ pcoplc in the induslrial park. Certainly
have a commitment to notify them at least because you,re dealing with
sorr:eihing that re sold these people and right nou Ee're lalklng aboutc\ansing the product and the people say thcy don't tant it. The current
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par', j ciparrts in this agreernent don't pant it changed. And so I'm opposedt-o it'-. t^lith that I guess f uould invite a motion on the issue dealing trit-the, oh there's one last item. The staff had an argument that we don.t
have any room in the BH district, therefore !16 ought to put it in the IOp.tJell, you knour ue don't have any room in the industrial parks either.
Krauss: No, u,e'r'e running short.
Elhart: Okay, so to me that, uhen rle look at our Comp Plan uhich r.le'redoing righ! now, if ure don't have room for this kind of lhing, are we goi n--to have this and ue're going to have a quick oil change thinS, f mean we
have just, the community and I agrae r.rith the Pollution Control people. t-
have -needs for these things. lle have to find provisions for them in theright place and this is not the riEht place. Anyway, I'll entertain e
;irot jon for that from anybody uho'd like to strike out.
Ahr€ns: I'lI move that the Planning Commission recommend approval of
Zoning Ordinance Amendment allowlng vehicle testing stations as conditionaluses in che IOP and BH districts as statcd 6xc6pt for (g)...to readvehicles. second line, vehicles stackinE in fire lanes, parking areas and
ot her dr ives .
E;,:r, i nls: Second.
E)'he:-t: Okay. the motion's been
chang;e in the ordinance for both
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made and seconded that ue
IOP and BH districts. Is approve the
there any
Ahrens moved, Emmings secondsd that the Planning Conmission recommendapproval of Zoning Ordinance Amendment allowing vehicle tosting stations 6concitional uses in the IOP lnd BH districtr amended to rcad !s follohrs:
Section 20-293, Conditional Uso Permlt Standards, ts addcd (amended) toreac,i as f oI lor.rs:
no repairs are performed on the site;
no gas or parts are sold on the site;
no outdoor storage of vehicles or related materials;
no diesel testing to be allowed at the site;
state and federal air and nolse standards shall be cornplied with. Ifproblems are found to exist, the property oeJner shall be required topay for any testing deemed to be required by the City to clarify thesi Cuation;
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E.r,:ssions Control Testing Stations - Authorized to undertake emissionsand/ot' safetv monitoring reguired by the state of I.linnesoea provided that:
a. the operation is under contract egreement uith the State of Minnesota -to provide these services;
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all vehicle stecking shaLl be provided on-site in designated lanes.Vehicles stacking in fire lanes, parking areas and other drives shallbe prohibited.
section 2o-a[4 - conditional uses in the rndustrial office park District
a nre nded to read:
( 15 ) Emissjon control testing atations.
uses in th6 BH, Highuay Business Di.strict is
IS
Section 20-714. Conditional
anended to read:
(i) Emission control testinE 6tations.
Ahrens, Emmings, and Ellson votcd in favor. tfildermuth .nd Erhert voted insppLrsition and the motion carried rlth a votc of 3 to 2.
erhart: Jim, do you feel you need to add any ftorG commenls on yout-:,eg6t.i.ve vote? I don't either. So hrith that thcn I think we']l have tomov; ahead to Lhe conditional use permit and preliminary plat. I'll openthe public hearing, If te don't have, lf there'e nothing neu I'd like toniove on wiLh iL. No new commcnts th€n I'lI ask for a motion to close that:ubl ic hear i n9 .
Ellson moved, Hildermuth seconded to cloge the public haaring for th-eConditional use Permit and Preliminary PJ,at for thc propcrty zonodICF. Industrial Office Park and located at tho intGr3cction of park Roadand Park PIac€- AII voted in favor and the nrotion carried. The public
l-,ear j. ng was closed .
Erhar-t: Steve, do you want !o start Hith that one.
Ernrr, j rrss: I don't have anything additional .
=l'hart: Annet[e?
Eilson: No.
Ei'hart: Jim? Joan?
Ah:'€ns: 1.,,e I I I only spoke to the conditional usc permlt bef ore and I just
r.ranted to say that, or the zoning ordinance amendmcn!. That we asked thesepeople to come in with this information and thcy did it and from what theypresenled to us, I can't se6 how r.16 can d6ny thcm. lle dldn't g6L any
evidence at aII, concretc evidence from the people who uere opposed to j.t
and I asree with Steve therc uer€ a loL of silly statements made that Idon't think r.re should even consider. A lot of stetchents thEt I think are,I mean I understend the conc€rns, Thcy don't uant th6 park changed but Ithink that, I don't thlnk this is a brand neb, usc that is so offensive thatue should deny it. I think lt's a new type of a use and ue've never hadthis in tlinnesota before but I think that it can fit h,ithin the ordinance.I think i,;e should recommend approval. That'6 lt.
El'hart3 Okay. I gucss given that ue're going to permit this use in thelndustr jal Park, I gruess I have no, I mean I think the plan is fine. It's
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a qc,od p1an, I just think it should be somewhere else but if it's aperi'litted use, then f guess I support it as well. Is there a motion?
Ernmings: I'11 move the Planning Commission recommend approval of Site pla,,
*9O-9 as shown on the site plan dated August 10, 1990 subject to theconditions contained in the staff report.
Ahrens: Second.
El-hart: Any discussion?
Emn:ings moved, Ahrens 8econded to epprove Site Plan *9O-9 as ahordn on the _plan dated August 10, 1990 eubJcct to thc follorrlnc conditions:
7. The applicant must provide roof top equipment ecreening for approval bysLaff. Screening must be of materials compalible HiEh the buildins.
2. tl,e applicant must submit revised screening for the masonry trashenclosures compatible with the buildine exterior and additional
landscaping around the proposed dumpsters.
fhe applicant must obtain a sign permit prior to erecting any signageon site.
The applicant must revise the Iandscaping plans as recommended in thereport to provide improved scrcening. Providc staff wlth a detailedcost estimate of landscaping to be used in calculating the requiredfinancial guaraneees. These guarantees must be posted prior to
bui lCi ng permit issuance.
The applicanL shall obtain and comply xith all conditions of the
!.iater- shed Distr ict.
Type III erosion control shall be used along Park Road and added to thnorth and east portion of the site. Slopes steeper than 3:1 r.lillrequjrd wood fiber blankets and Type III erosion control . Theapplicantts engineer shall submlt 10 year storm f lor.l calculations forihe site..This may regulate the location of the cbnnection to theexisting storm sewer facility.
A concrete industrial driveway apron tith ! minimum radius cut of 20feet shalI be construclcd at the cntrance off of park Road.
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provide an additional 5 foot cctbrck on the hrestcxtcnding the bern and !^andscaping to the norlh.
e]'hart: The reason opposed?
E)'hart: Okey. Do we have one motion on the preliminary plat as h,ell?
All voted in favor except ttildernuth xho opposed and thc Dotion carried!!ith a vote of 4 to 1
tlildermuth: The reasons previously sLat.d.
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E,rr,ings: tte've got to withdraw the original .
that takes care of that issuc and I gucss thie uill go toEIhart: Okay, BoCity Council.
E:,rmi ngs :
IV.
No, we've got 2 mor€ to eo. On prge 7. l.Je've got to do III and
EIhait: ttithdraw original site plan.
Enmings: I'lI move the Planning Commission rccommend wlthdrawal ofapp;'oval of Site Plan 89-8 for the Rome office building concurrently withthe approval of Site Plan *9O-9. Thc rpplicant should filc a notice ofuithdrawal agsinst the property rt Carver County.
Ahrens: Second.
E.ilson: tlhat is this one doing?I'm confusad.
sitc plen that was approved for thatErnm i n5;s : t,le're Hithdrawing
pr oPc'r ty Previously.
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El Isorr: O kay .
Emmings moved, Ahrens secondcd that thc Plenning commlssron rccommends the;,;ithdraual of approval of sitc plen No. B9-g for thc Ronc officc Building,concurrentlv r.rith the approvar of sltc plan No. 9o-9. Thc appricant ahouldfiLe the notice of uithdraral against thc property at Carv€r County. Allvoted in favor and the motion cerrl€d unanimously.
Erhart: tlould someone like to make a molion on the Condilional Use permit?
Errr'rri ngs: r 'l I move the Planni n9 commission rccommend approval of theConditional Use Permit for th€ vehlcle testing statlon subject toconditions contained in the staff rrport altcring (c) to conform to thechanges made by Joan. Just ln thrt sccond sentcnce.
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Ahr ens:
The wordi ng?
Yeah .
fs there a second?
Second ,
Emraings moved, Ahrens eeconded that tho plannlng commisslon recommendapproval. of the conditlonal use pcrmlt for thc vehlcl€ tc3tinc atltionsubject to thc folloring condltlona:
1. compliance urith conditions of Sit. plln t9O-9 -
KraijSS: tlo .
Krauss: Yeah,
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Ernission control testint 6tations - Authorized to undertake emissions -end/oy safety monitoring requlred by the State of i.tinnesota provided
that:
the operation is under contract agreement xith the State of
l.linnesota to provide thcse services;
no rcpairs arc performed on thc site;
no ges or parts arc sold on the sit€;
no outdoor storago of vchicl.cs or rclated materials;
no diesel testing to be allowed !t th6 site;
stete and fcderal air and noise standards shall be complied with.If problems are found to cxist, the property or,{ner shall berequired to pay for any testlne deemed to bc required by the City -to clar-ify the situation;
all vehicle stacking shall be provided on-sltc in designated lanes.Vchiclcs stacking in fire lanes, parking areas and other drives -
shal I be pr6hibited.
AII voted in favor €xcept l.li ldermuth r.ho'8 vote rae silant lnd the motion -carr ied
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Erhart: Okay. that's the end of that and now can ICitr Council on Sharmin, whE! data? October 22nd.in.
say that xill so to
Okay, thanks for comi n
PUts: iC H EARING:
P r.(EL I I\,I I NARY ATTPL O REPLA T A PORYT ON OF AN OUTLOT TN CHANHASSEN i{ALL
ADD]TION AND PLACEMENT OF I1ARKET EVARD. lf,E PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST
UTH AND I"IEST OF CHANHASS EN BOI{L AND NORTH OF THE
TRACKS. EASY RIDER ADDITION,
vice chairman Erhart callcd thc pubtic hcarlng to ordsr.
Erhart: Does any commission mcmbcr necd a staff rcport on thls?Apparently not. Ia th€ra any public input? Is thcre eny lssuc.
Krauss: It's a eood plat. Please approve lt.
Emmings: Oh, the City's thc lppliclnt?
Er-hart: That ought to makc you suspicious. okay, any public lnput?
Jey .'lohnson3 Souther.st ilotro'6 all for it.
Emminss moved. Ellron eccondcd to closc the publlc hcaring. All votcd infavor and the motion carrl.d. Thc publlc hcaring Hes cloacd.
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first year did create sone congestion on the streets but bugs uererrironed outrr. The second city that had problens during the firstyear was the village of Skokie. The Traffic Engineer for tbevillage of Skokie stated that there uas sone traffic congestion thefirst year. He stated that the main problen wittr that was that theState had nailed out notices to residences in the village to gettheir vehicles tested. A large nunber of notices were mailed out
which was nuch more than what the station could handle. The Statedid officially apologize for that and adnitted that it vas theirfault. The State created a breakdown of the nurober of vehicleswithin the city and notices are being Eailed out accordingly. Thetesting station in skokie has been there for 3 years and has apopulation of 60,000. When the station first opened, there was a45 ninute wait in Line and today it takes an average of 5 to Gninutes to get ttle vehicles tested. The other problen that Skokievas facing rras that their station opened prior to the other 15stations within the State of Il1inois. This forced the naj ority ofthe vehicles to be tested in Skokie and the denand was nuch higherthan what the facility could offer and as time passed, otherstations opened which reduced the nunber vehicl.es being tested atSkokie. Irlinnesota does not anticipate such a problen as it is oneof the staters recoonendations that all stations Dust open on the
same day or else no station will be pernitted to operate. Staffalso contacted state officials from washington, IlIinois andMaryland. Al,L state officials fron Departnents of Ecology,Pollution Control and Environmental Services adnitted that they hadproblens vith traffic the first year but all of their problens havebeen j.roned out and all the stations are operating efficientlytoday. All states and cities agreed that SysteD Controls has beenvery easy to sork with, they Dove fast to resolve and eliEinateprobleros and are readily available to sork with state and citystaff to neet demands, The najority of the officials also agreedthat it takes approxihately one year to get used to the facitities,that there were problens during the first year and that there areno problens at the present tine. All cities that were contactedwere asked as to there the facilities were Located. The najorityof the stations were located in light industrial areas. Attachnent#1 shows the location of the stations in Marytand and Illinois.Staff also contacted cities in l.Iinnesota nhere other facilities arebeing proposed to be located. The foll.owing is a List of citiesand status of actions taken by each cityrs respective planning
Commission and City Council.
Citv Action
White Bear City Council - Approved thesite plan as a conditional useperroit.
City council - Approved ttreoakdale
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Savage'
Uinneapol is
site plan as a pernitted use.
Planning Conmission - Approvedthe site plan as a pemitted
use.
Have not held public hearings
as of this date. They aregoing to them in October.
onetheli:ss, these cities were
contacted and all cities were
certaLn that they viII be
approved with no foreseenproblems. The only city that
has denied the application has
been the City of Richfield dueto the close location of thestation to a residential areaand also because the roadcapacity cannot handLe the
aroount of traffic that would be
generated.
SIGNAGE/FINDTNG THE SITE
Another issue that was brought up at the Planning Conmission wasthe possibility of people entering buildings within the vicinity
asking for directions to the eroission control testing site. Toavoid this problem, the state wiII nail out directional naps withthe notices. !!nDOT will also provide off prenise directional signs
on their public right-of-uay.
MAXIMI]],I VEHI CLE SIZE
The Planning Connission asked staff to flnd out uhat BizeltlTre ofvehicles are required to be tested. Attachnent {2 conpares thesize of vehicles that need to be tested. ff the total gross ueightof the vehicle is 81500 pounds or under, it rnust be tested. Thepictures iLlustrate that only the snallest trucks wlll requiretesting.
Uinnetonka
BJ.oonington
coon Rapids
Brooklyn Park
Rosevil le
Eagan
city council - Approved thesite plan as a pernitted use.
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REVISED ORDINANCE
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Staff rras also asked to develop an ordinance to allow enissioncontrol testing stations in the IOP, Industrial Office parkDistricts and BH, Highrray Busi.ness Districts as a conditional use.Conditional use perDit standards have been expanded based upon thePlanning conmissionis direction.
section 20-293, Conditional Use perrit Standards, is added(anended) to read as follows:
Enission controL testing Stations - Authorlzed to undertakeemissions and/ or safety nonitoring required by the State ofllinnesota provided that:
the operation is under contract agreement, uith the Stateof Minnesota to provide these servicesi
no repairs are perfoltued on the site;
no gas or parts are sold on the site,.
no outdoor storage of vehicles or related naterialsi
no dieseL testing to be a]lored at the rite,
state and federaL air and noise standards sha11 becornplied with. If probleDs are found to exist, theproperty orrner shalL be reguired to pay for any testingdeerned. to be required by the city to clality th;situation;
alf vehicle stacking shall be provided on-site indesignated lanes. Fire lane's, parking areas and otherdrives shal1 be prohibited.
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in the Industrial Office
(15) Enission controL testing Etations.
section 20-7]-4 Conditional Uses in the BHDistrict i.s amended to read:
(9) Euission controL testing stations.
Highway Business
staff continues to have reservations with the potential of locatingenissi.ons- testing facilities in the BH ilistri;t. FundaDentally w6believe that the rop district is the appropriate one to acconDodatethese uses and this belief has generilly been backed up by
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infornation obtained frou other conmunities. Our findings arefurther supported by our contention that there are relatively fewavailable sites in the BH district in Chanhassen. these teid tohave high visibility and are located at najor entrances j.nto thecentral business district. They represent high value conmercialsites and we believe lt vould be inappropriate to in essence loseone of these sites to acconmodate the testing station.
Air oualitv and Noise Analvsis
Based upon discussions with staff, the applicants had theirconsultant undertake noise and air quality studies of the
Chanhassen site to ascertain specj.fic inpacts on the adjacent pMTproperty. The studies are provided in an appendix to this report.The analysis concLuded that Uinnesota PCA Noise Standards for
commercial uses would not be exceeded. Noise analysis relies on afairly conplex set of scientific forrnulas that need not beexplained in detail at this tine. However, the state noisestandard of 70 dBA will not be exceeded with an expectation thatthe predicted noise level is 60 dBA. The conroission should notethat noise is neasured on a log rhythnic scale, thus a 10 dBAdifference is iignificantly large. Likewise, an air qualityanalysis rras done for carbon monoxide. The analysis attempts toascertain a worst case scenario of air quality inpacts fron thesite by projecting long ques of cars waiting to get into thefacility. The overall CO concentration at the closest portion ofthe PUT building is 5.2 pp:o uhich coBpares with a one hour standardof 30 ppn and the I hour standard of 9 ppn. Thus projected leve1s
are lrell below allonab1e standards.
Traffic Analvsis
An additional traffic study has been done to ascertain the inpactof this site on area roads. The applicant will have theirtransportation consultant at the neeting to respond to questionsfron the Plannlng Cornission. However, data being subnitted
indicates that traffic levels on area roaduays and contributions toturning movenents are quite low given the fact that there are three
neans of accessing the site. The site can be approached fron thewest via Audubon Road, the east via County Road 17 and the northvia Park Drive from Eighray 5.
Site Plan Anendments
The applicants are preparing a revl.sed sl.te plan that is designedto afford slight nodifications in the Lnterest of inproving sitescreening and buffering for the PUT property to the west. PlanscaII for shlfting the stacking lanes some 5 ft. further to the eastto provide additional setback area. This setback area vill be usedto a11ow for an expanded bern which along rrith a dense hedge
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planting will provide a 5-7 ft. high screen for the PlfT property.
Sumnarv
Staff continues to support the approval of the vehicle i.nspectionstation in the chanhassen Business Park as requested by theapplicant. The additional data we have gathered confLrms ourbelief that the IoP district is the appropriate one for this typeof use, that it can be accoDmodated with little or no off-site
inpact and that concerns raised regarding thie use have proven tobe largely unfounded based upon the exPerierices of otherconnunities. tle wish to note that the applicants have beenextrenely cooperative in working rrith staff to provide additional
infornation to resolve the issues that sere raised. Eased upon theforegoing, staff is again recoumending approval of requestsassociated with this application. Fortunately vhen thisapplication was initially reviewed, staff anticipated that it nightbe required to come in as a conditional use pernit and was
accordingly published as such in the official newspaper. Thus thecity is in a position to act on the CUP, the site p1an, and ttre
ordinance amendment. At this tine, staff has not yet receLved anapplication for 'subdividing the parcel. There j.s no requirernentthat the property be subdivided since at this tiue the site is onelarge lot. However, we do believe it is the current ounerrs desireto split the property in two so that an office buitding can bebuilt on the future Iot created to the east. Staff e:<pecfs to seea subdivision request processed as a follow up to this action inthe near future.
STAFF RECOIiIMENDATION
Staff reconmends that the Planning Connission adopt the follouingmoti.on:
I. 8rltE PLIT REgIET
rrThe Planning Connission reconmends approval of
#90-9 as shoun on the site pLan dated Au$.rst 10,the following conditions:
The applicant nust provide roof top equlpnent screening for
ap. proval by.staff . Screening must be of materials conpatiblenith the building.
The applicant nust subnit revised screening for the masonrytragh enclosure coropatible with the building exterior andadditional landscaping around the proposed dunpsters.
The applicant nust obtain a sigm perrit prior to erecting anysignage on site.
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The applicant nust revise the landscaping plans as reconnendedin the report to provide improved screening. Provide staffyith a detailed cost estl.nate of landscaping to be used incalculating the required financial gfuarantees. Theseguarantees nust be posted prior to building pernit issuance.
The appLicant shall obtain and conply wlth all conditions ofthe Watershed District.
I\pe III erosion control sha11 be used along Park Road and
added to the north and east podion of the site. Slopes
steeper than 3:1 will reguire uood fiber blankets and l:rl)e IIIerosion control. The applicantrs engineer shall subnit 10year storn flou calcul.ations for the site. This uay regiulatethe location of the connection to the existing storm sewerfacility.
A concrete industrial driveway apron with a ninLnun radius cutof 20 feet shalL be constructed at the entrance off of Park
Road.
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Amendnent allowing vehicle testing stations as conditional uses in
the IoP and BH Districts. rr
III. IVITADRIRAL OP ORIGIXALLY IPPROVED SITE PI,III
rrThe Planning Conmission recoEnends the withdrawal of apProval of
Site PIan No. 89-8 for the Rorne office building, concurrently with
the approval of site Plan No. 90-9. The applicant should file the
notice of uithdrarral against the property at Carver County. i
IY. COIIDITIONAIJ T'8E PERUIIT
rrThe Planning Cour:lission reconDends approvaL of the conditional usepernlt for the vehicLe testing station subj ect to the following
conditions:
conpliance vith conditions of site Plan t90-9.
Emission control testing stations - Authorized to undertake
enissions and/or safety Donitorlng required by the State of
Minnesota provided that:
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Revise the plans to provide an additional 5 foot setback onteh west property line while extending the berm and
landscaping to the north.
Planning Conrrnissionvehicle Inspection station
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a. the operation is under contract agreenent with the Stateof l,linnesota to provide these serrrices i
b. no repairs are perforoed on the site;
c. no gas or parts are sold on the site;
d. no outdoor storage of vehicles or related naterials i
e. no diesel testing to be alloued at the site,
f. state and federaL air and noise standards ahal1 beconplied with. If problens are found to exist, theproperty onner shall be required to pay for any testing
deerned to be required by the city to clarify the' situation;
S. all vehicLe stacking shall be provided on-site indesignated lanes. Fire Ianes, parking areas and otherdrives shall be prohibited. rr
ATTACH}{ENTS
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Locations of stations in Maryland and fllinois.Illustration of vehicles needing testing.staff report dated SepteEber 5, 1990.I-€tter frorn applicant dated SepteDber 26, tgg}.Carbon lr{onoxide Analysis and Traffic fropact Study.Noise and carbon non-oxide evaluation stiray.Planning Comrnission ninutes dated Septenbar 5, 1990.
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Wauk.ganr Locttadlcatlon co. & B..r.c.nt1y ulll hourrtron our taelllty
8ta.12 l,l,noolnrhlr. t t6cat.d ln Rrrldrntlal ar.r rlth th.Hall bord.rlng on th. t.tt .1d.. Aree 1r rt oaDaolty, no
Erowth ln lunrdlatr r!r!r
8ta.t3 Schaunburgt Locat.al ln Induttrlal Park. Ar.a bu!lnolr u.r.present et tlD. o! lacllltler conrgnrctton. No rooE tor txpanllon.
str.la gr(okl.r 1.. 13
eta.l5 tddiront Locatad ln lndurtrlal Park. Arca around tacl-Ilty
hae experlcncrd rapl<l growth, ualnly ofllccc t rtoall prtvet.
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8ta.16 Elk Crov.r Ar.arnal1 olflcc conplax wetactIlty. A aot.l ta.rDrlng. Curr.ntly e rht
prop.rty to th. u.rt 3thlr y.rr.
Etr.17 r,l.t.rr Eutinc.!,/Rcltdrnttel. Coll.. Dhtrlbutor locat.d
acrolr thc .trcct wlth tocal autonotlvo rlpatr t.ctllty & lart tood
rasteurant! ln luocdlrto !E!lr
sta.ft lor.rt Drar.n.t locatod ln a bullncu,/rclldcnthl arca.
Faclllty lr bor6.r.dl by D.pt. ol llrantPortatlon Oarag. & g!at.
uental Erntor. ltaJor rhopplng crntrr lr dlrrctly rororr th. .tr..t
ar ircll a! aPartDrnt ooaPlcxca.
8tr.19 Clo.rot Indu.trhl Ar.r. Eullnor-r.. D!...nt .t tlD. ollaclllt1.. oon.tfuotlon. Curr.ntly truot(1n9,/acr!P D.trI llrE
acro.. th. .tr.at fu dolng naJor r-novatlonr.
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Eoarird by raatdcntlrl hotr.. and a autouotlvr body rhop er scll er
in an Indurtrlal Perk. ll.lghbor. lncludoDhtrlbutor. N.u conrtruotlon conpl.tede loall llehulactur.r. Prop.rty rororr th.ha3 reoently brrn purehrrod.
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whan cornplcted y111 hour. an anlnal hoapltel,
8te.l14 Markhurt Burlnar.r/CorM.rlaal Araat 8a. 13
Eta.llt Chlcrgo Hoighter Zon.d Burlnee:/Rcrldontlal. ?art loodR.staurantr locatad st cnd.ot queuc ulth rpartaent colrpt.x andrrsldrntlal honrr ln luncdlatt arra.
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ihq og- leolllty. .rhcc. burlnur lnoludr, a rportlng ioodlttly lub. & dootorrr o!!1oI. In tha part yrai a bank-hae1lt.
sta.ll7,_8. gt, Loulr:.t€crtad ln a R.sldGntlal Ar.a ntth no Eror{thtaktng Dlac. rt thlr tlnr.
6ta.l18 ltttchellt located Rural Ar.a clo..whlch har rcrtaurantr and a conrtruotlon bu1r urrd to Eaou oorn.
gta.tll Erdlord Parkr l,ooatod ln anelnly ol varrhouraa. l{ar, ta!.houalaclllty to thr .a.t t 111 optn thl
n :ndu.trlal Par)r uhlch oonrl.tr. oon.truotlon rdJacont to our. lell.
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FROM:
SUBJECT:
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DATE: Jub lO, tr90
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Itarford county, For.3t HllI, rural rr... In 198a th.rcvar a tood !tor6, doatorra olflco and a sataloE atore.llh.r. ar. nfi Dor. olflce bulldlnEa vlthln thc block,
and rcc.ntly aorot. tho rtrmt trou our enlt, e l.rE.
ona-ator7 llurclnE lIoD. ha. beon bullt. rtrlrr rlderlypeopk takc salks and hav. oftcn .toppcd to trll our
Dan.g.r hor vcII the plaoe loolr (Eratr, trolr andrhrubr!.
Beltl,Dorc clty. Eh.r. rar a raachougc,/ehlpplnE coriprny
and a trirck/cranc burln..a on thr rlde,/baok of ourrtatlon. 8lno. 198a, thc tnrcvcranr burlncaa has been
roplacrd vlth a rholelale oll burlnera - n.at andolcan. ApartD.ntr acro$ thc road havc b..n rrnodelrd.tflurln thr block arca thrrr lr a ner ltcDoneld.,
Kentucky Frled chlckcn, and Convrnlcncc 8tore.
ceEoll countlr, Flnkrtnrrrg, rural arca, no cbangc tro6oprnlng day ln tgga.
Baltlnorr county, Balvo nord, r derd .nd road at thrtlle ol our oponlnE ln 198{, ulth ctoraE. bulldlnE
next to our .tatlon. Ihlr road lr nor a l-len. road to
a rhopplng aent€r. s.v.ral burlnoeru hrv. openedrincr l9gir a rcafood rotall carry-out, lhrchant I rflre anat Srnrlor c.nt.r and Lvltt t\rnltut..
Elllcott Clty. ltrere uar a Pontlac D.al.r acro3. th.atra.t and nirt door uaa a l{anufacturlng buelnes. uh.n
ne openod ln 198a. A larg. colplor lor doctoro,lanyirr and burLnorr ofllcea ha6 bc.n bul.lt bcrldr ourproparty, and teo largr olflcc bulldlngr aro a block
lway. A ug Po.t offlc. h!. b..n crcctsd on thc
opporlte corn.r fro6 our rtatlon.
Statlon 2
Station 6
Statlon 7
Station t
Station 9
Annapollr.- ffrgrg- raa, and rtll.l la, an tndu.trlal park!n thc t ecx ol th. rtatLon area rhcn rc opened in1984-. Elncc.!h.n, ! ttrqe olflcc buffClng-ilitr I-UanXha. bo€n bullt on onr coher. [trr rhopplnE c6nt.racroEE thc road hr. purcha.ad land to infirir th-centar out to BG.tgrts Rord.
9lll!:n:_E!! u! olcl.d r.n 1e8., thrro yar only rn 04rJulDer cgtrplny nar(t door, and a rchoot eorotc f,hrctrcet. Elncc th.n, theri havr been i rctitr-a----coody.ar ?1r. and Eenrlco c.nt.r, a conveniin€ stor..and an Auto Inaur.nc. elah crntir uufit-fn-a-b1;;i-'rr.a. ln the nent block thoro la non a shJppfn!-ienterwlth a lttcDonalda, conv.nL.nt stori,'-prf ;trii-sioe, " ---
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Crpltol Hclghtr.. tthl! .trtlon har had a gr.rt Erorth.our corner lot had oth.r_buslnccror llko-cooa 6oii,-usPo6ta-I- sor:rrLcc, -xarke (Dlecount prtco alubi, -a"a-iit[i
Ly. lfor, n.xt door t9 thr rlEht, u. have i'fiigr-----offlce furnlture,/Bupply coapaf,y ina aaiorr thr itrcctlr-:-p:!.1 coupany, a .tor?g! cotpany, a bikr rhop enda D.aury ruppty rtor.. Bchlnd the etitlon lr a toircllYPPly conpany and a palnt rtore. ZVo aotrlr. .clreutt clty. electronlcr and ..vcrel fart fo6d outl.d,shavr b..n bullt one block notth ot Ch;-;taai;.-------
l,lontgoDerf, Counly! Oalghersburg. Ihl. ttatlon uasDullt l.n op.n. fteld n.rr Rout. 12a. gC bullt tho roattln t,o our teot .It. _and lrter turned thlr road over toIpltg?l?ry-county-aft.r th.tr ecccptanc. approvrr. AtED. tlle ot our tg3a op.nlnE, no btalnetr iir ln thetvo block arra ol our itatl5i. ioi [uirir.r.. on thGtlsht are four dtff.rcnt autonotin.-;6li;-in"el, -6i.
!a19r truck rcprlr rhop, tro tlrr rhofi, an euioiotlvopar.ne rhop, a trangulealon- ropalr rhop, e prlntlng and
9p?I .!ol?r en Rv- rcpatr.rhop, a notoiiyola ;aDaf; - -
!l?p:-l ElaBa.rorFrl- a ?{9n coDl,any anda dry -
cr.eeners. on th. l.ft .ld. o! our itatlon ani paraedthc_Rydrr truck rrntal lr.e rhopplng cinttr yflfr in-rtallan carr?-out chop, rllk cfi,iii-c[oie, ctrfn]ro--Reataurant, b..r and. -tnc atore, utxtat-iirb-lidpl-ecarpot rtoro-, a prlntlng coupanjr, HaraTland retliiraiBank and a photograph rtiop. tfioii are-sevGral oth.rDuslnesae. ln thr noxt blockr froD our ttatlon.
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Hontgo!.ry County, Brlggr.Cban.y. 1!hle Btatlon 1r in acirclr Auto PUI(. rhen ie opened Ln t9B{, thr clrclrraa tuo thlrdr eonpltted. Ait.r r. oprnci, tour Dorodcalcrrhlpt op.n.at rlth Bm{ beetdo our ttitlon on thrl.ft and e cer uaEh on thr rlght. At thr r.ar riEht lBUlalas Xutfler, illfly l br, ani ll.rchant r. Tlrescnrl,co. Acror. tho- road it our cxLt acvereltownhousar hava baen bul.lt. Ihere t8o glanr for achlld daycarc ccnter on th6 next oornol. On tha corn.ropporLtr llarchent r a Tl.re Storc lo a nrr Exxon rtatlonuhlch Lr the corrrer of a largc thopplng c.nt.r, rLthHlrdees, reDdyr., tlontgoD.ry Donut , binIs, I petltortl rcttaurantr, atc.
Rlch, r hope thh ulll trclp. other thrn our Carroll countytest slte, lost ltatlonc hlvr had rvrral burlnol$ bulldaround thc o;rcn arra. l{any ol thero atoralr/lhot s reeu tohavr an lncroam ln thclr butlnccs.
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EHANHISSEN
P.C DATE: 9/s/9o
c.c. DAIE: 9/24/90
cAsE: 90-9 site Plan
BYs A1-Jaff/v
STAFF REPORT
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Testing Facility
2) lletes and Bounds Subdivision to create a 1.7 Acre
from a 3.953 Acre Parcel
3) Zoning ordinance .ADendment to A1low vehicle' Testing Stations in the IoP District as a
PeEoitted Use
Intersection of Park Road and Park Place
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Ordner:
IOCATION:
IPPLICAIIT!Jerry Perkins
Pope Associates, Inc.
Suite 300
1360 Energy Park DriveSt. Pau1, lIN 55108
EXI8TINC ZONING:
ACREAGE !
AA'ACENT ZONING
}l{D LAND UsE:
IoP, Industrial. office Park
1.7 acres
SEWER AND TATER!
SITE cEARlCfERIaUca: The site generally drains to the east and
northeast into a wetland located to the north of the.
site. Natural vegetation exists to the north of the
site although the roajority of the site is covered
with field grasses.
20oo LIND gaE:Industriaf
N\\ac\^'w\el -ti- <
systen control/
stantey J. Krzywicki
Suite 208
5275 Edina Industrial
Edina, lIN 55342
It-wetland-vacant
B - IoP, EIIPAK
B - IOP' vacant
r - IOP, PMT
Servl.ces are available to the site.
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Septenber 5, 1990
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BACI(GROUND
on October 4, 7989, the Planning Connission revj.ewed an applicationfor Site Plan Revier{, #89-8 for the Rone Office Buitding.-- The saneapplication vas revieved by the City Council and was -approved onOctober 9, 1989. The site plan that iras approvea for norne officebuilding ahoyed a future expansion to the- site ln the forrn of afree-standing 17,000 square foot office/rarehouse building locatedto the uest. The application being reviewed calls for a newstructure on the site of the proposed additional building. Theprinary structure approved by the City in October has n6t beenconstructed.
The application in front of the Conmission today wil1 change theapproved proposal for Rone Office Building drln'aticaI1y. - Theproposed vehicle inspection station site rri]I invalidate the RoneOffice Building site p-1an by. creating_ setback varj.ances, parkingvariances, and also there right_ be inpervious surfac" ' c-ov"ragevariances. Therefore, to consider aCtion of approval of thevehicle testing station. is .dependent upon cancellatlitn of approvaJfor the Rone Office Building site plin approval. Staff iis netuith Ronan Xoos, the owner of the site. Ui.- noos is fu1ly alrare ofthe situation. He anticipates requesting approval for a srnalr'erbut sinilar building on the originil site.
PRoPoSAL./SUI'{MARY
On Jqly 1, 1991, the Minnesota pollution Control Agency (MPCA) rilIreguire at 1 vehicle ouners to test the level ot -tryarLciiuori
1ttc1and carbon nonoxide (CO) that their vehicle pioduces. Theapplicant is worting to establish 11 sites within €ne sevtn countynetro area of rrhich one is chanhassen. The applicantrs firn iscontracted vith the state to provide testing se*ices for a 10 yearperiod. They wi11. be the..sole proviclei of reguired testingservi-ces. The chanhassen site is -one of the regiirea servicesareas under the state contract to adequately serve Lhe metro area.The procedure starts by sending notices to all car orrners to testtheir vehicles within 90 _days of receiving that notice. a stuayrtas. conducted .by the applicant and it is piedicted that 95t of thavehicles within 5 nires of the site wili be uslng ttrat-ii"itior,.The site will be buirt to acconmodate 158t of trrE cir -popuiation
vithin the area. A car population forecast for trre veai-iigb t ".used .for that study and a netuork nas buir.t to sui€ ttrai. carsuilr be tested by being driven into the building i"a tooi"a r"t"test. eqtiprnent. cars that fail the test arj requiiee-1o leserviced and retested for compliance. servicing ;iii- rrot u.provided on-site.
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The proposed building rdill be equipped uith Dachines that wiltnonitor the level of CO and a supply fence shich functions as afilter to get rid of CO. The proposed building will be locatednorth of Park Road of which access wi1l. be obtained. The area ofthe proposed building is 4,042 square feet. The parking area is
proposed to occupy a portion north of the proposed building. Thesite pl-an is well designed. Access, grading, drainage andutilities do not pose any probleDs. Sone ninor rnodification to the
walkway that links the parking lot rith the building has been
requested by staff. Site landscaping is generally of high quality,
although staff is requesting sone changes on the plan where itabuts Park Road to screen vehicl.es entering the inspectionfacility.
The proposed zoning ordinance amendment will allou vehicle testingfacilities to exist in IndustriaL Office Park Districts as aperuitted use. At the present time, the ordinance does not
acconmodate this use since it did not exist at the tine it vas
drafted.
The subdivision reguest is a metes and bounds subdivision. The
Planning Com:nission does not need to act on the subdivision reguestas it is a netes and bounds request. staff did include the
infornation so that the Planning Connission would be aware of therequest. The lot split vi1I resul.t in creating a 74,155 squarefoot Iot. There are no variances attached to either the site planor subdivision requests. staff is recommending that the requests
be approved subj ect to appropriate conditions.
GENERAL SITE PI,AN/ARCHITECTURE
The site is located north of Park Road. The building is situated
para11e1 to Park Road rrhere access is gained. Parking is locatedto the north of the proposecl building. llaterials used on the
building will be 4n x 8tr face brick accented by 4tr x 8tr accents.
Prefinished DetaL overhead doors will be used on the west, east andnorth elevations. The roaj ority of the site will be screened froEoff-site vierrs by landscaping and a proposed berro to the Eouth ofthe site. The building architecture meets the standards of thesite plan ordinance requirements. fhe applicant is showing theroof top eguipnent extending 33 feet above the roof level.
Eguipnent will be screened ulth netal panels painted to match thecolor of the overhead doorE. staff is recomnendlng that the
equipnent be painted to natch the color of the buildting. Picket
fencing is not considered to be acceptable screening. It should be
designed to be conpatible with ttre bullding exterior. The
On site air quality studies yi1l be conducted to ensure thatpollution does not exceed standards. These studies wilI besubnitted to the I,IPCA on an annual basis.
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applicant is showing the trash enclosure screened by a chain linkfence. Staff is requiring that lOOt screening be provided for thetrash enclosure area. It should be constructed of Dasonryconpatible irith the building.
PARXTNG./INTERTOR CTRCI'I,ATION
The Cityrs parking ordinance does not address facilities such asthe proposed. The Eost siroilar . operation is vehicle servicestations which requires 4 parking sta11s per service stal1s. Thisuse will have .3 bays. The applicant has Eanaged a large nunber oftesting facilities around the country. staif believLs that thenumber of parking spaces provided is adeguate. The applicant isplanning to have 7 enployees on site. Foulteen parXing ltalIs areprovided and one handicap sta1L. Staff does not- anticipate seeinglarge nunbers of cars parked in the area. Staff roet with theapplicant and lras infonaed that the naxinuE tiue for a car to spendon site is two ninutes. The Engineering Departnent has reguelteda rninor change to the parking area layout. ]t is recornnend6d thata sidewalk or other designated walkway systeE be provided withhandicap. ramps to establish a_ safe pedLstiian travei way betweenthe parking Lot and the building as lhor.rn on the attache-d sketch.This.walkway plan would elininate one parking sta11, hor{ever, thesubnitted site plan proposes 3 nore tha; the nininuro' reguirenents.
ACCESS
The plans propose one 25r wide curb cut to enter the site fron parkRoad. -The driveways are proposed to be built to city standards.The radius of curbing at the entrance should be a nininurn of 20r.The nunber of curb cuts on park Road uas an issue for staff duiingthe approvaL of the Rone office
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Building. staff argued against theplacenent of 2 curb cuts to naintain traffic safeiy. uitirnitery,the appricant uas alloued the trro cuts but the westdrn entrance rrasintended to serve both buildings being proposed. The rresternentrance ls generar.ly rocated in the vicinily it tte crrb ",ri-b.ingpresently proposed. staff finds the current proposal acceptabi6only if the parcel renaining ln Mr. Roosr contiol -.t ttre cor'ner isarloued to have on1y 1 curb cut on park Road. rt will ha.." "secondary access on park Drive. An appropriate restriction ihouldbe placed in the chain-of-title of tfrit fot.
IJANDSCAPING
The. .1ands_ca-ping plan is wel.1 conceived. Staff is requestingadditional landscaping on the south and rrest of the siti. trroberns are proposed to the south and the southrrest corner of thesite. Those berms are proposed to be at a height of ,;;e 3 feet.staff is reguesting that those benns be exten-tted and nade 4 feetrri.gh so that they can provide better screenlng of vehicles vaiting
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their turn for inspecti.on as they enter the inspection facility.
The berns should be extended along the Park Road exposure and along
the west property line to help buffer the adjacent Pl,[T site. Underthe revised ordinance, financial guarantees for landscaping andother site inprovenents are reguired.
LIGHTING
Lighting Locations are illustrated on the plans. OnIy shieldedfixtures are aLlowed and the applicant has denonstrated that thereis no rnore than .5 foot candles of light at the property line which
Deets the ordinance requirenents.
STGNAGE
The applicant has subroitted a signage plan. - - one rnonumentidentification sign is proposed at the west of entrance to thesite. The area of monulrent sign is 35 square feet and is 5 feet inheight. The ordinance allows an 80 sguare foot display area and a
naximum height of 8 feet. The applicant nust obtain a sign pernitprior to erecting the sign on site. one stop sign uust be posted
on the driveway access to Park Road.
GRADING/DRAINAGE
The site generally drains to the northeast and north into a wetland
located to the north of the site. A snall area of the southeast
corner drains to Park Road. The proposeil graiting pLan maintains a
consistent drainage pattern uith the present condition. Slopes
along the north and northrrrest portions of the site appear to beslightly greater than 3:1. This will require special slopestabilization Deasures such as wood fiber blankets and Type IIIerosion control . A storn sewer systen consisting of two catchbasins is proposed to be constructed and connected to an existingtrunk storn selrer extending along the northern border of the site.
The najority of the site is proposed to be graded. The applicantls proposinq to use Type I silt fence or erosion control to the
southeast and north portions of the sLte to ninirnize erosion.Staff is recomrnending that Tlr;le IfI erosion control be used.
PUBLIC UTILTTTES
City sewer and water are available on Park Road. Fire hydrants areavailable on the southerly side of Park Road. The Fire Uarshalindicated that those fj.re hydrants will be sufficient to servicethe proposed building.
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COMPLIANCE TABLE - IOP DISTRICT
Ordinance Proposed
Building Height 4 Etories 1 story
Building Setback N-lOr E-1Or N-15ZrE-91r
S-30 | IiI-10 I S-49 r W-114 i
Parking stal1s 12 stalls 15 6ta11s
Parklng Setback N-3Ot E-lOt N-51r E-44 r
s-N/A W-10r s- w-59r
Lot Coverage 70t 49*
I6t Area 1 acre 1.2 acres
Variances Required - none
PARI( AND TRAIL DEDTCATION FEES
The City is requiring that park and trails fees be subnitted inlieu of park 1and. Fees are paid at the tine building perrnits arerequested. rt should be noted that a future sidevalf wilr nostlike)'y be constructed vithin the north boulevard of pari orive.The appricant shourd be advised that no signs or other structureswill be pernitted vithin the City right-ofiway.
!,IETES AND BOUNDS SUBDIVISION
The applicant is requesting approval to subdivide 3.953 acres intotno_'lots. Ihe subj ect, site viI1 have an area of 1.7 acres. Thelppricant rnust provide ttre typical utility easenents of 10 feet infront, 5 on the sides and 10 ieet to the iear of the site as thereis an. exi.sting stora sewer 1ine. The pranning co,Dis-ion ao". nothave to take action on the subdivision requesf as it is a rnlies anabounds subdivision and wi1l be acted on 5y the City Coun-ii.-
ZONTNG ORDTNANCE AIIIENDMENT
staff is pr-oposing- the following ordinance amendment that wouldallov vehicle testing stations in the IOp District:
Amendrnent to Article xxrr, rop, rndustrial office park District.Section 20-at2 pernitted uses.
13) vehicre testing stations authorized to undertake enissionsand/gf lafety rnonitoring required by the State of lrtinnesotaprovided that:
Pope Associates, Inc.
Septenber 5, 1990
Page 7
a)the operation is under contracted agreenent with the
State of llinnesota to provide these servicesi
no repairs are perforned on the site, and
no gas or parts are sold on the site.
b)
c)
STAFF RECOM},IENDATION
Staff reconmends that the Planning Connission adopt the following
![otion:
I . BITE PI..}N REVIEW
IThe Planning Conmission reconnends approval of Site
#90-9 as shown on the site plan dated August 10, 1990,
the following conditions:
Plan Review
subj ect to
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1. The applicant must provide roof top equipnent screening for
approval by staff. Screening nust be of materials conpatiblewith the building.
The applicant nust subrnit revised screening for the nasonrytrash enclosure conpatible uith the building exterior and
additional landscaping around the proposed dutrpsters.
The applicant nust obtain a sign pernit prior to erecting any
signage on site.
The applicant uust revise the landscaptng plans as reconmendedin the report to provide inproved screeningr. Provide staffwith a detaifed cost estinate of landscaping to be used incalculating the required financial guarantees. These
guarantees rnust be posted prior to building pernit issuance.
The applicant shall obtain and conply vith aU conditions of
the watershed District.
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Type III erosion control shall be used along Park Road and
added to the north and east portion of the site. Slopes
steeper than 3:1 witl reguire rrood f iber bLankets and I)rpe III
erosion control. The applicantrs engineer shall subnit 10
year storn fLow calculations for the slte. This rnay regTulatethe location of the connection to the existing storn serrerfacility.
A concrete industrial driveway apron with a minimum radius cutof 20 feet sha11 be constructed at the entrance off of Park
Road. rl
Pope Associates,
Septenber 5, 1990
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IT. ZONING ORDIN}IICE II,IENDI,IE}II
trThe Planning Connission recomnends approval of Zoning Ordinance
Amendment allouing vehicle testing stations in the IOp District.n
III. TIITEDRIIIAIJ OF ONTGINALLY I,PPROVED STTE PI.A$
iThe Planning Cornnrission recoruoends the withdrawal of approval ofSite PLan No. 89-8 for the Rone Office building, concurrLi.rtly withthe.approvaL of Site Plan No. 9O-9. The appli-ant should file thenotice of withdrawal against the property-it Carver County. r.
ATTACHIT{ENTS
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. RoDe office Building approval .. lleDo fron Charles Fo1ch dated August 30, 1990.. Systens control operation ovenrier.. Site plan for inspection facility.
Sygl!ms Conlrol
755 N. Mary Av€nue. Sunnyvale, Crlif. . 94086
Tel (a08) 738-7a00 Telecopior (,108) 733-9255
5275 Edina lndusLial goolevard, Suite 20E, Edin., Minn€sota 55439
Tel (612) 897-1232 F6r (612) 8:)l 0652
Septembcr 26, l99O
Mr. Paul Krauss & Ms. Sharmin Al-Jaff
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Systems Control's Inspection Facility
Case #90-9
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Dear Paul:
This letter is in response to the seven staff recommendations for changes to the site plan
for the Systcms Controls tnspection Facility contained in your rePort lo the Planning
C.ommission dated September 5, 1990. I will also address other changes we will
incorporatc to providc additional buffering between us and the PMT Property.
Thc first ilem conccms screening of roof-top equipment. Systems Control will either
paint the roof top units to match thc buildings or provide a material screening whichever
the staff recommends.
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The second staff recommendation was to provide a masonry trash cncloSure with
landscaping. This also will bc done. The masonry will cover the three side and a chain
link gate will be providcd for thc access.
The third itcm conccrns the signage on the site. We will obtain the permits required and
providc thc appropriate signage.
The fourrh itcm rcfcrs to thc tandscaping. I am providing a draft copy of the landscaping
plan. It will bc incorporatcd into thc landscapc rlrawings from thc architccl. Thc addition
bf " long.r and larger bcrm will shield thc street and the sdjacent property to the
southwest. Additional screcning to thc southwest will come from the hedge row planted
on thc bcrm. Systems C,ontrol will provide thc rcquired financial guarantee for this
landscaping. The initial estimatc of this cost if $15,000.
As to items Iive anct six concerning the compliance with any conditions imposed by the
watcrshed district, Type III Erosion controt, and tcn year storm flow calculations, these
will be pcrformed.
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The last item, number seven, concerning the 20 foot radius cut industrial driveway apron,
we shall also comply with.
I am enclosing: 1) The draft revised site plan with landscaping. r)Air quality study
pcrformcd hy Dr. David Braslau showing compliance with Statc and Fedcral ambicnt air
quality standards which also shows some traffic impact. 2) Noise study performed by Dr.
David Braslau showing compliance with state noise standards. 3) The Resolution #6363
for the White Bear [:ke site. 4) A status matrix for the 11 stations nehf,ork.
If you have any questions or comments, please call, so that we may resolve any issues.
Sincerely,
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Stan Krzywicki
lmplcmcntation Managcr
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RE: Alr Quallty Report for Flve Eplcentere ln Trln Clties l{€tro Area
Deer S ten:
Slncerely,
Davld Breslau
President
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10 Autus E 1990
Please flnd enclosed our report Gveluatlng trafflc and carbon oonorldc lEPacts
.ssoclsted xith the followtng flve vehlclc lnspcctlon .tatlon! ln the Tuln
Cltles .MeEropolltan Arer :
Eplc€nter 03 - IHITE BEAR IAKE '
Eplcenter 05 - OAXDALE
Eplcenter 08 - GHANHASSEN
Epr.center 09 - RICHFIELD
Eplccnter 11 - SAVAGE
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The Btudy ls based upon the ebsolute rorst casc proJcetlon of trefflc volunes
assoclated wlth the lnspectlon stetlons. The levcl of actlvity assuraed ln
the enclosed study ls expected to occur uhen the end of the oonth falla on a
Tuesday. Slnce the statlon ls cloeed on the neekend and l{onday, thls day caP-
tures nornal end-of-nonth vlsltors as nell !e those nho have not had an opPor-
tunlEy for three days to cone Eo the statlon, Durlng the rest of the DonEh,
statlon-generaLed trafflc volunes ulll be I,ell belor those asaurned ln the
study. Therefore, the protecced trefflc end carbon monoxlde lmpacts contalned
ln the enclosed studv represent rrorst case levels exp€cEed only once or trlce
Der vear -
Please let ne knon lf you have lny questlone conccrnlng the rGport or the
flndlngs concelned ln the report.
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CARBON HONOXIDE AIIALYSIS
OF TIVE VEHICLE INSPECTION SITES
IN THE T1JIN CITIES T{ETR.OPOLITAII AREA
Eplccnter 03 - ttHITE EEAR IAKE
Eplcenter 05 - OAIOALE
Eplcanter 08 - CIIANHASSEN
Eplcenter 09 - RICHFIELD
Eplcenter 11 - SAVAGE
Prepared for
SystcEs Conurol, Inc.
by
Davld Braslau Assoclates. Inc.
Augus t 1990
TASLE OF CONTENTS
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INTRODUGTION
BASELINE TRAFFIC (1992)
STATION.REIATED TRIPS
rnAFFrC TUPACTS (1992)
IASELINE CARBON I{ONOXIDE IJVEI.S
CARBON }IONOXIDE II{PACTS
CONCLUSIONS
- I{HITE BEAR fAKE (Reglonal lrcarlon)
- OAXDALE (Reglonal Locatlon)
- CHANHASSEN (Reglonal Locatlon)
- RICHFIELD (Reglonal lacatlon)
- SAVAGE (Reglonal LocatLon)
- 9HITE BEAR IAKE (Gcnerallzed Netrork/Dally Trafflc)
- OAXDALE (Generallzcd Nctrork/Datly Trafflc)
- CHANHASSEN (Generallzed Natwork/Dally Traffle)
- RICHFIELD (Generellzed Netrork/Dally Trafflc)
- SAVAGE (Generallzed Netvorkr/DaLly Trafflc)
Trafflc rt TH 95/CentervlllG Road (Tte Headorlands)
Traffic at TH 96/Centenr111. Road (Basellne 1992)
- ITHITE BEAR IARE (Basellne Dal1y Trafflc 1992)
Traffic aE TH l20/{lnnehaha Avenue (Basellne 1992)
- OAXDALE (Basellne Dally Traffic 1992)
Trafflc at fH S,/Audubon Road (Basellne 1992)
- CHANHASSEN (Baseline Datly Trafftc 1992)
- RICHFIELD (Basellne Dally Trefflc 1992)
- SAvAcE (Basellna Dlfly Tnffic i992)
IIHITE BEAR IAKE (Proposed stetlon layout)
OAKDALE (Propoeed rtatlon layout)
CHANHASSEII (Proposed rtatlon leyout)
n ICHFIELD (Proposed statlon layout)
SAVAGE (Propoaed st.tlon layout)
WHITE BEAR IAKE (S tetlon- Beneret.d Trefftc)
OAKDALE (Statlon-generlted Trafflc)
CHANHASSEN (Statlon-gcnerated frafflc)
RICHFIELD ( Statlon- gen.rated TraffLc)
SAVAGE (Statlon-genereted Trafflc)
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1.0 INTRODUCTION
Ihe SEate of HLnnesota 1111 be requlrlng vehlcle lnspectlon for cxhausteolsslons beglnnlng ln 1991. Eleven (11) sltcs or cplcentcrs wlll be locetedln the Tuln Cltles Hetropolltan Aree.
The Hlnnesota Pollutlon Control Agency ls rcquirlng thet !n cvaluatlonof potentlal Carbon Honoxl.de (CO) lEpecEs assoclated rrlth .ech of the sitea be
perforDed to ensure thaE no adverse lEpacts on r1r quellty ara crcated by thelnspectlon sEatlons thenselves, fhe obJectlve of thls report ls to eveluate
CO lnpacEs assoclated nlEh the folloning five eplcenters:
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I{hlle trafflc data and proJectlons DusE be developed to perult theevaluatlon of co l,pacca, these havc been developed for cach of the lttc rtudyareas' Houever, Elnce Ehe prlEary purpose of Ehe report is rn avalueclon ofpotentlel co lnpacts, trafflc analyses have been perforued only as needed tocerry out the obJectlves of thlg report.
The locatlon of cach of the above flve cltec rre rhown ln ExhlbltsthrouEh 1.5. These background raps are taken froE nudson's SEreet Atlagthe THln cltles l{erropolltan Area (1990). A brlef descrlptlon of eachlltepresented be1or.
Eplcenter 03 - WHITE BEAR ISXE
The lJashlngton county slre (Eplcenter 05) ',irr be ln oakdale at the loca-tlon shown ln Exhiblt 1.2. The slte ls located tn a cornnercl.al area ln thenortheast quadrant of the lnEersectlon of TH 120 rith l{lnnehaha Avenuc (or10th St. N, easr of TH 120). fhe tLtc t,i1l ecccgg cenrry Avenuc and bc lo-cated betrreen connerclal developDents on the uest end e Tico John faclllty onthe southeast.
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A_partrEent bulldings arc locaced uest of centervllle Road Ln the vlclnlty ofthe access road to the slte.
The carvcr counry rltG (EpicenE.r 08) will bc ln Ghantrasrcn .t th. loca-tlon Bhonn ln Exhlblt 1.3, Ttrc slte ls Locatcd tn an Lndustrral rrce elongPark Road uhlch runs betveen Audubon Road and counEy Road 17. To the sest ofthe slte ls the Progress Hanklnd rechnology corporirlon. To the Eouth of theslte across Park Road ere Fluoruarc, Inc., Hurphy t{achlnes, Energy ConErols,Inc. and the Chenhassen Lskes Buglnea3 CrnEer.
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one of the four Hennepln county 8rtes (Eprcenter 09) rtl1 be ln Rtch-fleld ac the locatlon ahown ln Exhibtt 1.4. rhi sltc wllr be locateJbetreen77th and 78th (r-494 Frontag. Road) strcets Just cast of r2th Avenue south.rngress to the slte wlll be fron 12Eh Avenue SouEh, whlle cgress fro, Ehe slteulll be to 77th street. Apartoent bulldlngs are rocated bofh east and resE ofthe slte lrlth slngre faolIy rasldentlsl norEh of the .lte. r-h94 Ls locatedsouch of che slte.
Eplcenter 11 - SAVAGE
. The Scott CounEy slte (Eplccnter 11) vtll ba ln Savage .t the locatlonshovn ln Exhlblr. 1.5. rt 1111 bc roceted on thc TH 13 eJuth EronEaBe Road
JusE east of Lynn Avcnue (or Counry Road 31). Acccs! to thG rlt. ylll bc fron
Ehe fronEage Road. A aoall retall ccntcr la locrtcd Just yert of thc alEG.ApartEents and alngle fanlly rcsldcntLel lre locrted .ouEh of the rlte.
. Sectlon 2.0 of thls Henoranduu presenE! thc basellnc trafftc condltl.ons
cxpected ln 1992 (one year aftcr the staclone bccouc opcrattonal).
SecElon 3.0 descrlbeg the trlps lssocllted vlth cach ltatlon.
Sectlon 4.0 addreaees trefflc lEpact3 of cach st5tlon rt the Dost crltl.cal nearby lntersectlon (rhere turnlng loveEent3 arc avellablc) and dlscussea
lDpacts on nearby roadrays.
SeeBlon 5.0 establlshes basellne CO levels .rpected 1n 1992 rltbout theBtatlon. As parE of thls cffort, background CO conccntrltlon for .!ch atatlon-
study area, whlch wtll be 6dded to roadrray- related conccntrltl.ons to ylGld theovcrall expected CO concencratlon, arc derlved.
Sectlon 5.0 presencs expected CO levelg at EclccEed receptor sites near
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Sectlon 7.0 eu;Earlzes the flndlngs of thls atudy rnd lddresses coD-pllance ulth the IIPCA Anblenc Alr Quallty Standards for Garbon llonoxlde.
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2.0 BASELINE TRAFIIC (1992)
The generallzed traffic necrorks 6e'vrng each statr.on are ahown rn Ex-hlblts 2.1 through 2.5. Availablc dalry trafilc counts and interaectlons forvhlch turnlng Eovenents are avallable are shorn in each of these flgures.Turnlng Dove,enE counts for the TH 96/centervillr Road and rll L2o/ HlnnehahaAvenue ,.ntersectlons vere obtained frou the East l{etro Dlstrlct of the l{ln-nesote Depertnent of TransporEatlon (t{nDor). Turnlng loveEent counts for theTH 5/Audobon Road lntersectlon t,ere obtelned froD the lfest t{etro Dlstrlct oft'lnDor. current r-494 raup data near 12th Avenue ln Rlchfleld and rH 13 traf-flc data r.rere also obtalned froD the t est xetro DlstrLct of t{nDor. otherdally trafflc counts were obtalned floE the countle! or crttcs Ln uhlch thaeplcenter ls to be loceEed.
Er,I.pntcr. O1 . IJ'HITE BEAR
' The Basell.ne trafflc for 1992 rasuDeE coEpletlon of The t{aadorlands ofEhlte Bear, a uultluae rc s ldent lal/connerc la1 projGct to be loceted in the
northrresE quadrant of the lntersectlon of TH 95 wlCh Gentervllle Road, Based
upon the EAl.l for thet proJect, the dally trafflc vol.umer shonn ln Table 2.1are expected.
rAtlt 2.1
DAILY (TI'O.I{AY) DAILY I?IPS
TIIE I{EADOITIANDS OT !fiITE BEAR
To TH 96 Eestbound 2,790
Testbound 1,740
To Centenrllle Road Northbound 870
Southbound 3,480
It ls assumed here thet 701 of the trlp3 lre dlrected Cot,lrd3 th. caaC
along TH 95 and that 10t of the dally trtps occur durlng thc Plt PGek hour.lflth these assuDptlons, the PM p.!k hour trlps tenorsted by thc l{eedonlandc
ara shown ln ExhtblE 2.6a.
Applying a grorrth factor of 2t pcr ycar to th€ l{nDOT 1987 trafflc counts
aE Ehls lntersectton and adding the trlps fron ftrc Headowlands of ghltc Bearylelds the 1992 basellnc turnlng EoveEents shorn ln Exhlblt 2.6b. Baacllnc
dally trafflc tn 1992 on other roadraya lr ahonn ln Exhtblt 2.5c.
Eplcenter 05 - OAKDALE
Applytng e grouth factor of 2t per yeer to the l{rDOT 1988 trafflc countsat the lntersecElon of TH 120 rtch Hlnnehaha Avenuc ylclds the 1992 basellnc
turnlng moverDents shorrn ln Exhlbit 2.7a. Basellne dally trafflc ln 1992 on
oEher roadways ls shown ln ExhiblE 2.7b.
I
Eolcen er 08 c SEN
_ Applylng a grovth facror of 2l per year to thc HnDor 19g5 trafftc counccar rhe lnrersectlon of rH-s-nrrh Audubon ioad_ylelds the 1992 t""" iii"-t,r.r,rrrgDove,ents shown r.n Exhtbrt,2.8a. Besertne darly traffrc ln 1992 o., ott", ,o"a-rays ls shown ln Exhtblt 2.9b.
Eplcenter 09 - RIcHFIELD
- As noted ln Figure 2.b, ao turnlng DoveEents erc avallable for the lnter-sectlons f1 the_ vlclnlty of thls steti;n. Ttrus, only baserrne cetliatee ofdally trafflc elong srudy arca roadeays are included hjre tn Exhtbtt 2.9.
Eo 1c ter 11 s E
- As noEed ln Figure 2.5, no turnlng DoveoenEs ara evailable for the lnter-sectlons !1 che_ vlclnlty of thls statlon. Ttrus, only basellne cstltlaEos ofd8l1y trafftc along study area roadnaya are includcd here ln Exhiblt 2.10.
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chicago
EXfiIBIT 2.3
Eplcenrer 08 - Ct{ANllAS S EN(Generallzed Nccuork /Daily Trafflc)
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a
to
B
vl'
ISB TOTAL
)
N-S STREET
BON ROADAU
qso
WB ]DTAL
L
(
flL
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qq3
EB TOTAL
188
6
+-__
--
zu
E-WSIREI
NB IOTAL
EB UT
WBTH -
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NBIH -
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OR
NB LT
SB TH
MAXIMT,M
SUMOFCRMCAL
vol-trMES
0 ro t,200
1.201 ro l,{00
> 1,{00
UNDER
NEAR
OVER
EKHIBIT 2.8a
PH Peak Hour frafflcat TH 5rlAudubon Road
(Basellne 1992 )
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f
THF
ro alrtt
EB TH
OR
CAPACITY
LEVEL
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TH5
$iluaukee
RR
Chicago
EXHIBIT 2.8b
Eplcenter 08 - CHANHASSEII
(Bascllne Dally Trafftc 1992)
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=
3.0 STATION.RETATED TRIPS
Table 3.1 shots the flvc cplcentera lnalyzed herc rtth the nuuber oflanes per ltatlon and caprclty of the ,tl.lon in vehtcLcs p., to"r. '--
TABLE 3.1
STATION IANES AND HOURTY CAPACIT':I
EPICENTER I'CAIION NI'UBER IANES HOI'RLY C,APACITY
03
05
08
09
1l
l{hlte Eear hke
Oakdale
Chanhassen
Rlchfteld
Savage
3
4
3
4
3
103 rph
129
E1
139
7L
Layouts of each of th! statlons bclng analyzed hera are prcscnccd ln Ex-htbits 3.1 through 3.5.
. . The naxinurn expected trafflc vol.rnes on adJacent roaduays durtng thspeak hour of operatron (rhich ls assuned herc to occur durlng the pr{ peak hourfor naxlmu.n lnpacr) are shorn for eech oi itre-grtes tn nxhibrts 3.c through3.10. Also shown are estlnates of daily tifp"-o" these roedrays.
24
o'I
PARK ROAD
EXIIIBIT 3.3
Eplcenler 08 - CHANIIASSEN
(Proposed 3tatlon leyout)
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RR
Chicago
EXITIBIT 3.8
Eplcentrr 08 - CHANIIAS SEll
( S catlon- tenerercd Treffic)
78th st. 1,.
g
o(,(o ( zr'" )
/z ut(ao71
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Eolcenter 05 - OAKDALE
TH 120 and Hlnnehaha Avenue (PX Pcak Hour)
Table 4.2 sholrs that Lncreases ln turnlnB DovcEents it the TH 120 and
fllnnehaha lntsersectlon because of the atatlon arc projected to be goall. Thlsls partly due to the assuEptlon that treffLc can acccss the sltG fron the
nortsh and east.
oEher area roadrays (Dally trtp lDpeccs)
Area roadway dally trlp lDpacca are estlEated to be sEs1l cxcepE fotl
centry Avenue on whlch the atatlon ls localed. Thls roadray already carrles a
sroall voluue of trafflc and the aual1 lncreas€ due to the aEaElon shous uP es
a relatlvely large percenEage lEpact. Horever. no ProbleEs are antlclpated.
EDlcenter 08 - CHANIIASSEN
TH 5 and Audubon Road (Pl{ Peak Hour)
Table 4.2 suggest aoDe rather slgnlfleant lncreascg ln turnlng Dov.oents
at thls lntseraecclon because of Ehe atatslon. However, incrcases ln turnig
EoveEents are small coEPared rlth thru EovcEents rt thc lntrrsectlon. It l'3
llkely theE northbound Erafftc on Audubon Road ls hlgher ttran shorm ln Table
4.2 (whlch ls based on 1986 counta), and that the LoPacts of thc statfon arc
llkely to be less PercenEa8erriae and not Sreat enough to creete any probleos
along this roadway.
oEher ares roaduaye (Dally trlP lDPscts)
The sarne type of lnpact shows uP ln the dally trlP lnPact cwelultton'
slnce the dally ir!.ps rerc based uPon thr UnDOT turnlng Eoveuents. Park Road
dally trafflc has been estlDeted to be 3,300 ln 1992. lJlth thls relaclvely
snall volume, the addltlon of 800 triPs by the Etetlon has a relatlvcly large
(19.5$) lEpact. However,.the absolute volttlle ls soall and no problens ere an'
tlclPated.
No PU Peak Hour lopects could be uade ncar the Rlchflcld cttc. Horever.
the evaluaElon of dally trlP LDPact3 shous that therc ls a Eoderetc lDPact on
12Eh Avenue S. ToEaI dally trlPs reEaln rell belor the caPecltl.s of these
roadways .
Eolcenter 11 - SAVAGE
Lynn Avenue and fH 13 (Pl{ Pcak Hour)
Trafflc volunes et thls ,.ntersectton are asstrned, frou avallabl! dete,
for che purpose of lopact enslysls only. They havc been derived fton dally
trip lnforEaElon for TH 13 and assumed dally triP velues for oEher roadrays.
The estlBated 21$ lncrease for thr northbound lcft and rlght turn EoveEenEs
(representlng 35 vehlcle EoveEents for each) does no! relse the3e to e Ievel
chat should create probleEs at thls lntersectlon.
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Eplcenter 09 - RICHFIELD
Area roadrrays (DaUy trlP luPects)
i,rll.E 4.2
trrEnsEctror tuxxrxc tfirlrErcrrs t ItS
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9t6 tlrlla --t!r ttrttt. .. t .t tc!.I --
lttlrtrDnttrtrt
lrlBsEcltollr C.!r.r?r,!l. ta t t! t6
TTIERSECIIOIII
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TABI.E 4.3
IHPACTS OF STATIONS ON AREA ROADSAYS (DAILY TXATFIC)
ROADWAY
STATION
IRATFIC
BASELINE
ADT
TOTAL
ADT
STATION
PERCENT
EpLcenter 03 tJhlte Beer
TH 95 1,, of Centervlllc
TH 95 E of centervllle
- centervllle Road
Eplcencer 05 Oakdale
Mlnnehaha Il of TH 120
10th St. N. E of TH 120
GenEry Avenue
EplcenEer 08 Chanhassen
Audubon Road
TH 5 E of Audubon Road
Park Road
Eplcenter 09 Rtchfleld
12th Ave. froo 78th to 77Eh
12th Ave. frou 77th to 75th
220
80
1, 100
330
495
495
800
400
800
840
560
15 ,700
21,100
7 ,2OO
15.920
21,180
8,300
38
38
23
1
0
13
18 ,900
25,200
2,200
19 ,230
25,695
2,695
L.72
1. 93
18.37
2,
13,
3,
5
5
300 3,100500 14,000300 4,100
25. 81
2.86
19 .51
13.68
9. 56
300
300
6
5
140
860
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5.0 BASELINE GARAON flONOXIDE LEVEIS
Basellne carbon Donoxlde
-
I-ev-ele- are the projecEed levelg ln 1992. includ-lng background, wtrhour the vehrcle lnspecctoi siatlon. co backgiouii revelshave been devel0ped ln cooperatron ulth [lnnesote po11ut10n cJntrol tgencystaff. The source and dare_of Co-background lcvels for "".i "i;;:;icenEerstudy areas are identlfled ln Table 5.1.
t^ru t.t
30rrxc86 0t co llclcrqrrrD DAIA
lrc.rtlollttEr 80mcE
x.ll ct ra.!tc. EtE
t-!su Studr (ttrmt)
fhe tine adj us tedpresented ln Table 5.2.
DAtt DtS rca
t9lt a .1t..
trt6 t
lt!! 2
l9ro I
l9t9 2
l-a t-E'
1.0 DF 5.0 tF
1.5 a.0
l. t !,2
a.t a.a
,.t t.t
are
o,
o5
ot
0t
!t
I-atl rl,.rlrSroo Av.lit
!-9arL.ll. Dstr.
CL.rL lrtL &toot
Xrl!, of lrstcr .tr.
,rl.tt Cor.!&r Chul.h
background leve1s used ln thc 1992 enalyals
TABIT 5.2
ASSWED CO EACKCROI'IID I^EVEIS
EPICENTER 1- HouR
03 Uhlt. Bear 6.0 ppu
O5 Oakdale 1.6
O8 Charihasrcn 1.0
O9 Rlchflcld 5.6
11 Savagc L.7
The basellne CO concrncErtlons (1.a.,lEhout th. s).tlon) for crltlcal rGc;ptorpr.sented ln rablc 5.3 and dlscussed bclor.
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predLcted 1992 conccntretlonsaltes nerr each cplcenEer lre
8 - HOI,R
4.0 ppu
1.3
0.9
3.6
1.0
D.lur. Ch.ct tE? (d.t.ulr)
O.ld.l. Shopprna Ctr tS?
ta 2r.2 trs
tltlE 5,!
PllDtctED cralox rorox:Dl coNrcErrt^tloxa
hr.lr,i. - 1t92
1...D!or Stt.
lr.lttc CO (pF,lrctalolld (pF)
! lout I lorrr t lo{rr
:ct.Ir (pF)
I lout I !os!I lour I 16or.r
E lc.nt.r OS C.at.Fllt. td r tE t5
lutu!. R.trll (Xrr Corn.r,4.9 l. !t.0
lsllon OtI (iE Corncr,a.o 2.4 !.4
toco (sr corn.r)!. 9 2.5 t,l
l.rrl1 (Sl| Corn.!)t.2 2.t 2.O
lp l..nt.! 05 Htnn.h.b. t tE 120
Unlon ?6 (Xs Corn.!,t.t 5.!3.t
rrr.do6 OLl (XE Corn.!)a.6 6,1 l.l
laoco (sl c.rn.r)t.l a. t !,0
HcDo..!d'r (Ss Corn. ! ),.0 5.0 1,5
tplc.nt.r 08 ,l 5 t Audlrbon
16. (I9 Corn.r)0,t 0.5 0.4
Ccdt.rcrrL (sE corn.!)2.O t.l 0.1
E lc.at.! 1l ta tl I Lrr! A?.
rDGo (sE cornc!)t2,t ,.4 t.,
!2.0 4.5 4,5
a.l 4,0
a.a l.o
a.a a.o
a.a a.o
1.5 t.l
t.a l.t
l.a l.!
t.a t.!
t.0 0. t
1.0 0. t
t., t.0
1., 1.0
tt,! ,,0
lo.a 5.4
!o.t 3.1
to.a 4.0
4.3 5. O
lo.2 4.1
,.1 a. t
l.a a.t
t.t l.!
1.0 t.,
lr. a 4.2
It., s.a
lo.0 t.0
Drn P.tch (3e Corn.r)
lec atrndrrd
. !-hou! b.r.rt on .od.lt..l a_hou! tlrr . 0., ?.ttlrt.nc. frctor
.. !-hour lotrl hi.d on !_hou! .drrrtt.d + l_bou! brctarould
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Basellne concentraELons are predlcted for both l-hour and g_hour tlEeperlods for which HpcA-a'brent s-i-r querrty standards have been est;irtshed.lJhere Pr{ peak hour trafflc ls availabre, thtg has been used. lltrerc onry aa*ytrafflc ls avarlabre, ir rg assumed rher 1ot of thls traffrc o..rri" i,rirrrg tt.PH peak hour. To estr.Date 8-hour concentretlons, lt has been assuned lh.a th"averaSe 8-hour traffrc on th-e typa of roadrays evaluated rs 57t of the pr{ peakhour trafflc. Thrs rs based upon a nuober if etudles of al.erlel roadnays inthe Twln Cltles l{etropolltan Area.
Roadway concentratl-ons have been cornputrd uslng thc r{oBrLE 4 corssl0nsuodel froto the us EpA and the CALTNE 3 drsieraron uodel froo carrfornla yhrchls. approved by the us EpA and thc [pcA. rt ls r'au,ed th.r 20t of thevehlcles are ln the cold 3tarc lode and thet averege speeds on roadnays vary
i:tt eel 25 and 40 nph. A ylnd spced of 1 uecer per second blorlng frou adlrectlon Eo yteld the hrghest concenE*Eron at recri receptor rr.tc rr -aasu.ed.
Eolcenter 03 - WHITE BEAR IAKE
The receptor sltes evaluated at thls tntersectlon are:
Furlong Oil (NE quadrant)
AflOCO SEarlon (SE quadranr)Rerall (StJ quadrant)
FuEure Reta11 (NW euadrant)
-Fron-Table 5.3, tt can be seen that the rorst g-hour baseline concenEre-tlon ls 7.0 ppm, whtch ls re-lattvety hlgh jrtoirUy because of-tt_ iigt ,r"f,r"assumed for background. H-orrevc r,- this receptor and the other thrac ar€proJected to have concentratlons beior tt. i ppi g-hour gtandard.
Eplcenter 05 - OAKDALE
The receptor 6itcs lvalueted et thls intersrctlon rrc:
Freedon O11 (NE quedranr)
AHOCO Statlon (SE quadrant)
HcDonald'e (SIJ quadrant)
Union 76 (NtJ quadrant)
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Fron Table 5.3, it crn be gecn that the hrghe:c g.hour baselrn€ con_centratl'n 1g 6.1 and thac r11 reccptor rltcr rr. v:11 bc10r the g-hour ecan-&rd.
Eolcenter 08 - CI|ANI|ASSEN
The receptor sltes cveluatcd at thls lnters€ctlon rra:
Slngle faully rcsldencc (t{IJ of lntcrc.ctlon)Industllel faciltty (SIf of lnterccctlon)
Fron Table 5.3, rt can bc geen that the highest g.hour basclrnG Gon-centretlon ta 1.7 ppn, rell belos thc g.hour 3tend.rd.
6.0 CARBON I{ONOXIDE II{PACTS
EDIc€nTer 03 . WTITE BEAR I.AKE
EplcenEer 05 - OAI(DALE
The hlghest 8-hour concentratlon ls 6.2 ppu, rhlch rcflects an lncrcase
of 0.1 ppu. Increases et other rcceptor altcr ere also astr-EetGd to bc 0.1
PPE.
Eplcenter 08 - GHANITASSEN
The hlghest 8-hour concentration lg gtll1 1.7 ppu, !lnc. the Predlctrd
increese ln concentratlon ls lcss than 0.1 ppu.
Eplcenter 09 - RICHFIELD
It has been assuDed that four ross of 35 vehlcleg arc queulng conscently
durlng the peak hour of th. statlon, lnd thet thc ldle eolsslons fron these
vehlcles are carrled CoEerds the apartoenE bulldlng Just east of the statlon.
Some beneflt fron che apartDent garage atructurc lmedlately east of EhG sta-
tlon ls assumed. Thls analysls ylelds a l'hour concrntratlon of 8.6 ppu,-
rrhich rhen added to the assumed l-hour background (5.4 ppn), ylelds an overall
concentratlon of 14.0 ppn. tlhen conpared ur-th the 1-hour standard of 30 ppo,
lt can be seen thac the leve1 ls well below the stendard for thls tlne perlod.
If lt ls assuned, under the rorst condltlon' thet 2O vehlcles queue ln 4 lanes
for an 8-hour period, an 8-hour concentretr.on of 3.4 ppu (whlch assunes that
the vlnd n111 noc blow steadlly frou the saue dlrectlon for clght hours) ls
predlcted fron the vehlele queue. Added to the background of 3.6 PPE, the
overall projecEed concenEraElon ls 7.0 ppn rhlch ls belorr the 8'hour scandard
of 9 pprn. Thus, even under uorst case condltlons, the adjacent eParEoent ls
sufflclently far belon the standard thst no algnlflcant lnPacts ere an'
clclpaced.
Eplcenter 11 - SAVAGE
The hlghest 8-hour concentratlon .t the Anoco slte 13
reflecEs an increase of 0.5 ppr due to tha oxlct:nce of tha
creases aE Ehe other recepEor alte It only 0.1 PPo.
6.7 ppu, rhlchrtatlon. In-
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The overall CO concenEretlons vhlch lnclude th6 iDpact of jteElon-
releted trafflc are presented 1n Tablc 5.1.
The hlghest 8-hour concentraclon ls 7.4 ppu, rrhlch rcflecte an lncreascof 0.4 ppn due to the cxlstence of the staClon. Increaseg aE other recepEor
sltes range fron 0.0 to 0.2 ppn.
t^lll a, t
?iED!C!LC CIIIOI r!|lotlDt oqcElrt^rtof3
l.r.ll!. r/ lt*tori ts.tttc - ltr2
trrltrc Oo (pF, r.cbsoEtd (DF)lotrl. (DF,
I lour a !.ur I lout a lorrr..Lc.pro! Stt.
lltc.!!.r 0!
tlrtut. l.lrtl (n, Cos..r)
losldr3 Ot!, (tr! C.rn 8,
bco (El Corrrr,
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C6.rcl.I (5E Coh.t)
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C.6t.rrtll. Id 3 t8 95
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l.a l.!
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7.0 CONCIIJSIoNS
Based upon the abowc analysls. of trafflc and CO concentratLons in thcvlclnlty of the proposed vehlcl. lnapectlon statlons. the follovtng conclu-
sLons can be drar*n.
Eplcenter 03 - WHITE BEAR IAKE
Whlle the Lncrease in Etetlon-releted turnlng loveEentr uay, rlong rlth
other developnent trafflc, requlre soEe Dltlgatlvc Eeasures et the lnEer6ec-
tlon of TH 96 utth Centcrvllle Road, th. highest Predicted 8-hour Co concentra-
tlon ls 7.4 ppa, rrhich ls belou the 9 ppo etandard. Ihc uaxiuuo l-hour con-
centratlon ls only 10.9 ppn, rell belon the 30 ppn l-hour standatd. Thus ' no
slgnlflcant alr quallty lDpects ere predlcted for thls slte.
Eolcenter 05 - OAKDALE
An adventage of thl3 tlte l! thet rbout 501 of thc vehlclcl Dey accGlt
the slte fron tht north and south, hence avoldlng the crltlcal lntersectlon of
TH 120 and Hlnnehahe Awenue. The uaxluuo 8-hour CO concGntratlon 13 PredlctGd
Eo be 6.2 ppn, uhlch ls belon the 9 PPE stenderd. The l'hour naxlnun (10.2
ppo) ls well below the l-hour standard. Ttrus, no slgnlflcent rlr quellty ,'E'
pects are predlcced for th13 31te.
Eplcencer 08 - CHANHASSEN
IE ls assuned that the sltc w111 be accessed PtlEarily frou TH 5 at
Audubon Road. Trafflc on Audubon Road ls sufftclcntly lot to lccoDEodate the
increased trafflc destlned to the 31t. rlthout probleos. The oaxlnr.rn 8-hour
co concenrrarlon ls predlcted ro be only 1.7 ppo, rhlch fs rell belor the 9
ppn sEandard. The l-hour naxloun (3.0 ppn) ls also rell belou the l-hour etsn-
iara. Thus, no slgnlftcant alr quallty lopacts are prcdlcted for thls Blte.
EplcenEer 09 - RICHFIELD
The naxluuo 8-hour CO concantretion la predt'cted to be 7.0 PPE et the
adjacent apartnent butldlng. rhe predlcted l-hour concentratlon la 14.0 ppo.
soih of these ere belou the HpcA e'blent atr quallty standard3 for CO and no
slgnlflcanc alr quallty lupacts are predlcted for thls 31te.
Eplcenter 11 - SAVAGE
The naxfuntrn 8-hour Co concentratlon ls pr:dlcted to be 6.7 PPo, rhlch ls
belou the 9 ppn 3tandard. lte l'hour oaxlnrln (16.1 ppn) 1e bclou thc l-hour
srendard. Ttrus, no slgnlflcanc alr qualtty inP.cts arc predlcted for thls
slte.
Based upon the analysts of thts rlPort' none of th: flvc proposed
vehlcle lnspectlon slte3 ereElned !r3 PredlctGd to haws rlgnlflcent rdv.rsc
lnpacts on alr quallty t-n the vlclnlty of the ststlons or at crltlcll rGcePtor
sites located neer lntersectlons rhlch serve these rtetlons.
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1985 HCH: SIGNALIZED INTERSESTIONS
. SI,},I}IARY REPORT' ***************************************!t*************t**lk*****1t*ffi**
- INTERS ECTION, . TH g6lcenren,llle d
AREA TYPE.....OTHER
AI{ALIST...,...dhh
- DATE
TIHE
08/06/90
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o.236
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DATE
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Attrchod er6 lh6 follorlng:
(1) l{cao .veluetlng nolro orllralonr froo the rlte
<2, t{ero cveluetlag CO levrlr rt th. Pltf buffafng
Ilelter Rockcnrtctn har rcvl,rwrd both ol thcs. and:r.dr r fcr
3uttestLotrr rhleh hawr elrcady been lncolporrt.d. Plcare
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RE Chanherrcn Vchlclo lncp.ctlon StatloD - Folar Irpeot Errelllatlon
Thk ueuorandun dcecrrbe; end quantr.frer thr norrc 1cvc1r and norse rnrgcron,.xpect.d froo thr proporld ychrclc rnrp.cElon glr. ln ct ent.i".r,, -nr,il'" o"".
fhe follorlng toutqat of noirc caa ba expectcd: :
(1) Vchlclec .nt.rtng rrrd l.wing ttrc fecllter
<2) Vehlchg reltLng ln quaur .t the f.ctltr,
(3) VehlcLes on thc ynenoneCei ulthin thr feclltty
Each of therc rrc addrclrcd la thla lcDot.irduE.
I^and Usc Classtflcatlon of RecervfnE proocrtlce
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The l{lnnesota Polrutron control Agency (EcA) hac rstsblrshed nolcc lrlndrrdsfot -recelv-lng land ure:. Thc npcd lfoise- standerdr (Npc-2) .!a includld ln Ap-pendl)i A for - co'opl.EGness. rndlvtd.trl cltcgorlca of irnd uacr aro rr.t.drtthln each of the rend urr claerrfrcecrons -for rhlch norrc stenderdr havcbeen estabrrshcd. TtG clolesr edjacent lrnd usc (nrr corpiretr""l -i"ir"
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For thlr lend uro cletrlflortlon, both d.yct-Er rnd nlghtrlucLdcntlcel. rlthough ths rtrtlon ylII not Lr operettng durLng
hours ,
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UEIRIC PPJDYgfED I FVEL 8TANDA8,D
Ll0 60 dBA
L50 55 d8A 55 d8A
It can bc seen thet, rv:n durlng thr prrk hour of thr fecttlty, nokc lroo
vehlclea travelllng to and f,roa th. .1E. vlll be l0 dBA bol,or th. 3trnderd3.
Nornally, lc vlll bc vcll bclon thls lcvcl. .Thc lcvcl of noh. froo other
trafflc on the roadreyr vhtch lnoludrr roE. tnrckr r 1111 bo hlgher thrn that
essocLatsd rlth thg rtrtlon, end hrnoo no nolt. lrprcta frou thcrc vchlcles
ere anEtclPaEed. I
<2) Vehlcles raltlng: ln queuc at the feetltqw
Yehleles raltlng ln thc queue ritt bc ldllng. It k unllkcly thet a vehlehvlth r bad rnufflct rrould conc for. lnepeetlon tino. thr ?rhlclc rould be
rljscted. Thercforc, srolrG froE ldllng vchlclcc vlll be at or bclor thc al-
ready exlselng a.Ilblent leve1 Ln tha araa. ftre eobl:nt nof:c 1cvcl ln thc aree
ls cauaed by a nuuber of ioulcel tncluding IIVAC cqulpocn! end rosdrays traf-
flc.
(3) Vehi.clcs on th. dynrEotleter lrtthln Ehc facllltsy
(1) Vehlcles cnccrlm and lcevlng lhc fectltty
Dynanoneters er. uird to lt-Duletc roadvay condlttont durLnS, Eastlng. Thr
dynaEoncters arr loctt.d rpproxluatcly 15 feat lnsldr thc Gntrancc (aee Ex'
hfblt 1 rhlch rhovr e four bay ltatlon - only thro. baye erc planncd for thc
chrnhas3ca 3lEa.
Sound 1evc1 rrrdtngr havc bccn Eeken bJr SJratrtlr control foE s
rll-realher tlrcr on a dJmeoou.tcr, Ifhllc thcrr arc hlth.r than
pected for norE.l tl!.r' GhGla 1.v!1! havc brln ulcd !o dctenlm
in the vtclnlty of the chaDhagsen rl'tr' fha rcadingr hava becn
th! trs! llEG aE r,htch ttrc)r rGr! tsktn tc th. ghanhrrr.n rlt..
fro condltions ara ghovn tu Exhtblt 2. thc flrrt k rlth onty onc dynerouctcr
runnlng for et lcact 30 tllnutli of en hour. fhc grcond l! rlth tro
dynanon'eters running 3hulcsneously fot thc !4Et 30 !(nut.t of any hour' Tttls
li thc r.orst ttol"" co.tarcGn "*pe;.d et thG fecluEr. Nok: coat-ours fot thc
slnglr dynaDooeg3r art .hotm- rt soltd tlntrr rhll'. thote for thB tvo
dlnrinoueterr runntng rlnult&n.ouily e,ra thosn at d8sheil llnet'
70 dBA
Vehlcleg w111 bc rntrrlng th. frclllty frora PttL Eoail. Thr proJ:ct:d paak
hour voluoe ls 8t vph. If 611 of thcce vchlote. .nt.r frou thr rrlt rnd
depart to thr r!!E, thr proJrctrd round lcvek at thc cntrence to the PXf Cor.por.tton bulldlng rrl rhorn ,.n T.bIG 1. AIeo thorn ara thc t{PcA.nolr6 rtan-
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for 6t 1.ast 30 tnlnucc3 of any bour and noLcl.cr than lrornal tlra!. thG I{PCA
standard 1r not exccld.d rt th! clorrct adJ ecent prop.tt)r llncfrctllty ls rr(pcctcd to cooply vlth rtatc Dol.. !t.ndrEd3.
fhus, thr
Concr uB lorls
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COI'NTIES, !,IINNESOTA
ORDINANCE NO.
DIVISTON 4. STANDARDS FOR BUSINESS, OFFICE, INSTITUTIONALAND
INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
no outdoor
materials,
Section 20-293, Conditlonal Use Permit standards, is anended
by adding the following:
Eroission Control Testing Stations - Authorized to undertake
ernissions and/or safety rnonitorinq reguired by the State of
ltinnesota Provided that:
a. the operation I's under contract agreenent with the
State of t'linnesota to provide these servicesi
b. no repairs are perforned on the site,
c. no gas or parts are sold on the site;
storage of vehicles or related
secti6n 20-814. conditional Uses in the IoP District is
amended by adding:
(15) Enission control' testing stations.
section 20-7,4, conditional uses in the BH District Ls amended
by adding:
(9) Emission control testing stations.
no diesel testing to be allowed at the site,
state and federal air and noise standards shalI be
conrplied with. If problens are found to exist, the
property owner shall be required- to .pay for any
tesiins- deened to be reguired by the city to
clarifi the situation. An upilate on compliance
shall Le provided by the applicant after 6 months
of operation.
a1I vehicle stacking shall be provided on-site in
designated lanes. vehicle. stacking !n fire 1anes,
parking areas and other drives shalf be prohibited.
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SYSTEMS CONTROL
OPERATIONS OVERVIEW
Under. the prograrn, each vehiclc will bc required lo takc rhe tcsr nrior,.r '.-r.ei.r.;.dr#*tfutH"**;il,*,tffi .ffii$fi.ir*trI:";r.#yffii
results will automatically pririt out"
The -cntirc -test w l takc on an avcragc under two minutcs. An inforrration offrcc withffithiffi f ,ii r'"l,XT$fri.cacfr
' raartv ro i ;a p"'sonati'ca issiiiil; "ni':
we have over twcnty ycar's cxpcriencc in thc automotivc tcsting fierd as a leader in thedevclopmcnt,. cenifiia'tion, ancf apptication ;ifi";I ;d ;&:cycfi&;, *ildidle and loaded-rrodc vchicrc eriission t"rs. -
aa- h;; provcn track rccord as rhesuccessful operator of the large _Inspecdon programs in ntinois, tiarv6;-;;Washingron srare and has succes-sfully ir*"*,"a "&irv zrhfi;i;$;ffi;,rff;the 1980's. .As pan of sD-scicon, orie'of rhe iop iin'co.puter sysrems and scrvicescompanies in rhe world, SC has successruUy inaniea aa'v-..a .6.iurc; ;:iiil;
ffi!it:':ri'L;::l#i*:x,if :#,ffi s;,lrufii,.*i#,piug#:
available roday.
4ii}lff ;;.{,"#.T#"ffi#t,3it#,d}i,iffil[uh;iof...the constant consideruiin lor seniTc i tii- iiiiii'o""et .- our cxperience hos$3y rlat wu go thc extra ni!;:,. frari St J*,a" oi iiinoi, f,"a *,is roi.av a-Uiui 3E"lle.haye been ver,_pleaseit at lhc cr"aiirs o"ii-ro]rrriora;;;";;;i iiiiiirllreceive trom your (SC) employees.,,
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lY-tl:ry e,nggt tSC_l is a privatc cqmpany conracted by rhe State of Minncsota tomeasuE vehrclc crussions from cxisring vehiclcs rcgiitered in the statc. These
IP::igTt g!:,19 Fg,n July t, 1991, arci.auirea uy i-rcccnrty p*r.a r"ri*"ror"'r.*manoatrng a vehtcle inspcation program
Lcss rhan l0% of the vchicrc- owncn w l nccd to park to usc the infonnation of6cc.Mosr vehicre owners win simpty leavc the-aiiliry ihJr-#i"i"l rn-i ""-ili;ffi;;ffi*
SC's Inspcction Facilities design and opcration approach has bccn dcveloped utilizing
this cxperience and cxpcnisc. SCs inspcction facilitics and cquipmcnt provide
Minnesota with the following bcncfis:
A clcan conputcr cquippcd faciliry &sigred to measur arca residcnt's
vchicle cmissions using statc of thc art tcchnology cmission inspcction
systcm with elccronic passlfail dccision making.
OPERATIONS OVERVIEW Page Two
Averagc tcst taking lcss than two (2) minutcs pcr vchiclc.
Conveniencc of facilities arc located to scrvice ovcr 907o of thc vchiclc
owncrs rcsiding within a fivc (5) milc radius.
Minimal or no waiting (test facility network is dcsigned to provide a pcak
pcriod average daily working time of 3.2 minutes or lcss o all inspcction
facilities).
ADDITIONAL FACTS ON THE STATION MAKEUP AND OPERATION:
Hows of Operation:
Sunday and Monday:
Tuesday and Thursday:
Weinesday andFri&y:
Saturday:
Staf:
Closed
7:(X)a-m. - 7:00p.m"
7:30a-rn - 5:30p.m.
8:00a.rm" - 200p.m.
Each facility will employ r staff of tcn to Bftccn, with hdf tlrat
numbcr onduty at any onc timc. Thc brcakdown of thc cmployccs
consists of; two inspcctos pct lanc, onc station Eanagcr, urd one
MPCA waivcr inspccto.
OPERATIOn'S OVERVIEW
Parking:
Ample parking supplying morc than thc following; onc parking
spacc- tor each employec on dury, onc addirional parking space per
ffiiLlikrSlt?ltns spacc 16r handicapped' aia a sp'-aci roritre
Vehicle Size:
Only gasolinc vehicles wirh a gross vehicte wcight less than g500
pou.n+ .ale reqr:ircd to bc testcd. All hcavy iuty vehicles arc. cxcluded from this program, and will not comj to th6sc facilities.
Y-: tr.I flyrtto working in crosc coopcration and panncrship with communirics andr",:"^-o]r,.l111 r-o oc.v:lop. ald otsIare. a norc.wonhy. Inspcction prbgrarn Wc believc that
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Vehicle Through Pw:
Each station is -equipped urlth thc numbcr of inspection lanesrcquI* ro ffiorm inspcctions bascd on thc locil population
scrvcd by thc station.
The vehicle. inspection business is SC's only business. wc arc dcdicated to orovidinE rhe
l]g!::l trq,ly hspecuon prggnm ro the citizcns of Minnesota Ir wiU * conrcn'icnt,rcrrabre ard cosr cffcctivc. It will bc staffed with councous and wcn rainea scrvicJoricnted penonnel.
CITY OF
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690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
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Slnrnin A1{aff , Planner I
ctErles Folch, Assistant city Bngineer iF +t'I
Decsnber 26, 1990
Revievr of a Replat of Chan Ba\ren Plaza 2nd lddition into trrc lots and
Site Plan Revieh, for a 41042 Square F@t Vetricle Inspection Station.
Ianil Use Revies File 90-24
This 5.5 acre parcel is located ilmediately easL of the tibDonalil I s restaurant
property and ii bouded bY rnnk Highv',ay 5 to the north anil Iake Drive r''st to'ttr.'"o,itn. T69 parcel is currently urtevefqea anil is \Egetat€d prirErily with
field gnasses. tte replat propGes to subdivide tlre ocisting Parc€1 along a
nortv;uth line, yielEing treo parcels 1a'pqual in size. lte ne*r itesterly IErcel
i; pr-"p".J to be itle loddon ot tte tuture vetricle lnslEction ib!19": rlris -
re$rt will eyafuate the replat prcposal fon Gnn lia\ren Plaza 2rd trddition antl
thi site plan prcposal for ttre vetricle inspection 6tation.
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AII of the grading cperations prcposed at this tfuIE are in c-orjurction with the
constructioi of the vehicle inspection station site. Ihrrs, nearly atl of the
grading o[Erations will take plice on the r€sterly parcel, of -the replat.
foisting Lcpographic arades for this area range fron 61,p-half of a tErcent to
fourteei peicent-. prcposed grades will \rary frdn q)g to tlllee_ IErcent in paved
areas wit-h a na:<imun fottr to one slcpe in boulerrartl and side slcpe areas.
Berming is prcposed along the north sitb of tte site ard the sdrtlErn portion of
tte site beteEen ttre tlrive area ard the rptland area.
Erosion c.ntjol silt fence is prqced to encdrpass the grrattirg area of the
site, hcrE\rer, it is recurnended that !!pe III ercion contlo1 be fupleaented
anil maintained aror:nd the retlantl until t}e turf is established.
It is sPeculated tiat an olit farmsteaal may ba\re been iknolished anil buried cl't
the vehicle inspection site. Soil brings sEre taken at vziliousi leations on
the site. Tte iesulting report dlitl not indicate that there l,oulil be any
problens hrith or special clnstjucEion naasures needeit to be taken as a result of
the suspected h:rial matsial.
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Decgnber 26, 1990
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DRAINAGE
Ihe oristing Chan Haven Plaza 2rd 1nrceI drains storm rater a nunbr ofdifferent directions. The southriEst quartej of the parc.el &ains to thesouthwest into an o<isting r€t1and area. Tte norttnest quarter of the parceldrains to the nortlEast into the hiqhe,ay aiEh, $hi1e t-te- e.stern harf of thegxrcel drains primarily to the southeast.
rt r"as -inititally prcposed to drain the rptricle inspection site to the ocistingwetland area. EcrElver, city ordinanc€ does not aIlov a deveroping parcer ofIand. to directly dischafge into an pnisLing. r,ctland area wittroirt iii-t-prwiaingpretleaurEnt to reduce the increase in nutrient road. pretreatrEnt is lypicalLiacccrplished by fiplarenting a sedfurentation pord. nle b the o<istinqqn-Iities of this r,retland area and the charac-teristics of th. ";;""d'develcgrent plan, enforcranrent of this ordinance is necessary-aiia-ipicpriate.
At staffsr req'|Ect the applicants r engineer has inrrestigared the possibirty ofconstructing. a sediren ation /detention pord adlrcent to-the e.xisting r"ettanaarea to provide pretreatJEnt of incraased nutrlent load and naintaii ttepredevelcped r-r"rcff rat€ for the entire vehicre inspection siG ]-Gr,"r, arcto elerration limitations, it was forrrd that it nas n6t feasible to arain trresite to a prqosed sedirEntation/detention pcrd adlrcent to ttre.+etfana area.
A revised _drainage pran has been develaed wtrich is generarly simirar to thes(isting drainage scherE. rtE northern half of ttp iite, ccriposea pruariry otuggrvigus surface, r$ouLd be drained to a catah basin andl stcff, ;;;;;ipeoutretting. +ong the srate rtur* Highriay No. 5 ditch t" tte ,ortt l"H' nrn-oatr3!e for this porrion of rhe sire wiII ue contorredr ui" ;-pG-;;dl]ion,wtrich during -certain stom events, wi[ require surface pond.inq in the oarredrane areas of rhe vehicre inspection sire. sinc€ it-i" ili r&iiir.'#construct a. designated tts"t+"n pond for this portion oe tne site, -ii-apears
that potential storm ponding in the privatery onea area of ttre siie-is- anacceptable solution to rnget.rr:n-off ieguiranents. rn the future, -tt i=-sto"msel€r seg[rEnt is prcposed to be cqrnected to a future storm serrei
"y"t€tr, to uaconstructed in conj,nction with the kunk Eighr.y S inprovenrnt pr;'j*t
TtE r.stern two-thirds of the southern half of the rphicle inspection site isprqeed to drain to the r€t1and a!ea. rhis area is corprised^ prlnariiv ot
legetated pervious area. 11.ri:..pprg.* r*as.ap).ied ror i*o p.fitl;.=,first of all this portion of ttg Existing siG'cr:rrentry drains t"'ttis,etranaa!ea. and is corposett largely
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of trrrvior:s -area. tterefoie. ttere is ro-ctnnge rnlhe typ" of surface area draining and mininar ctnnge in ile e*ntitr;f-.r".draining thus no adverse fueacts -d, ttris ,"rgtfand a;"" "r" ;€i"iEGd:secudry, it was fert that sctrE arrbunt of pervio:s alea shourd be dlrainect clernto the rEtland area to rechalge and naintain tt," a<isitn! qualtti;;icharacteristics .
The renaining one-third of the southern half of the vehicle inspection site iscoprised. prinurily of irpervious surface. This area rs prqos&-io-L-"o.r,=a
bry catch basins and a storm ses=r systsn &ainirE to a prcpoGed cenporary ditchirnmediately south of the proposed culde-sac. trr,i" ptoiosia t"re.r=.w ait t,
SharnLin At{af f
Decsnber 26, 1990
Page 3
STREHIS
niLl function to discharge the run-off via overland flold to the southeast corner
of ll,l 2 Chan Ha\ren Plaza 3rd Addition. Ite najority of ttte area to be
ilischaigeil to the ditch currently &ains via ovej-1and flcn to this sortheast
corner of the parcel.
Yihen Iot 2 of rhe cban Haven Plaza 3rd Adition develcps it is anticipatecl that
sdrE sort of det€ntion patl will rEecl to be curstrrrted to clntrol the rate of
r*-otf and maintain ddmstream $ater quality. ItE rlcst aFPrq)riate location
ior itis pona based on grades appears to Ue in the sortlpast corner of I.6 2.
It is recorrEnded that gtre-n f-oC 2 develcps the applicant be reguireit to c",,,ect
io ttte storm selrer at the aischarge poinl, inrecliltely sortn of g1E Prcpos€d
.rfE-="", o<terd the storm sefr dcr^'n to the future ibtcntion pctl, antl
eliminate the tsporary ditch section. lte capacity of the future detention
p".a-=[Jr incorp,o,raa the flc*, g\rantity fron the prqosed stonn sewer and the
iouthern portion of ttre vehicle inspection site.
orE alternati\re that uas peed by the amlican! ras to connect this storm seiser
=V"t* air."tly into ttre itorm si rer a1-oirg tlq northern bouLernrd area of Iake
Oiir,,e nast. aft r "or. research it was for:nil that the erdsting. seg[rEn! of storm
s",r"i "f"tg Iake Drive dial not harrr= additional' capacity fq-t. $t9tt-:!9r* s*"t
connection: Hotever there is sqre additional capaciq'i availabre in this storm
line tlo,m stream in the vicinity of the southeast corner of Lot 2 CtEn lia\ren
ilaza 3rd Addition. Therefore, it may be possible for a future detention pord
overflcrv strlrcture to clrulect into the storm Ssrer near the so$lleast corner of
I,oE 2.
It should be noged that any portions of the stoEr selder that are Prcposeil Yrithin
public rightrcf<^ray or easeflEnt shalt be designed anil ctortstrlEted in ac'cordance
with city stanalards.
The siEe plan suhnitted proposes to construct. a $al,L segnent of cqrnercial
street s6tion and a cuf'{elsac in a public right-of*y to ser\E the vetricle
i""p."ti"" site and future &\relcgnent of ry ? of tbe Chan Haven Plaza 3rd
A&ition. when the cannercial stjeet anal cul,de-sac idea uas first \Erbalized
there h,ere sdrE reservations b1'staff troever, it uas believed to be at least a
pii*iUi" etion to invesEigate girrcn the_site l,fudtations asseiated with the
pi.p*.t. it deci"ion based on lElits corld not be maab until tle actual Plans
were subtLitted.
The current site plan prcposal displays one initial aclcess to be c'onstrEted off
of the cul{e-sal to "erte tte rrc}ricle inspection site vrith the potential for
[,r r-..i".os points to be consts:ctea oEf of the cul{e-sac to sene Iot 2 in
in frtor.. At ihis tirrE it is not knonn vrhat tlpe 9f lsingss or businesses
wiif aerrefqe on the \,,acant Iot 2 parc€l. Itofe\rer, it is safe to assu(€ that
.tiaif:.c volinrss could potentially -be high enough to create traffic trr3\raEnt
ft"Ufat" in the cul{e-sac as \rehicles enter and exit ilrivumy accesses. ci\ren
[r,is inf"r*ution, antl an erralr:ation of this design, there are
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sdne conc'erns for
traffic safety due to conflicting and unrestricted mcvglEnts in the cul{e-sac
area.
Shamin AlrJaff
Decsnber 25, 1990
Page 4
In an effort to try and organize the traffic flov and curtail potencial traffic
trE\rsrent conflicts, .a cul{e-sac island ccrcrept ras investigated. Itris option
woul.d hare allcrred for ttno lanes of unidirectioral traffic flov aroud the
cuL-de-sac. This cption appeared to irprove the previor:s conclerns ho,ve'er,
after careful scrutiny it Has fa:rd that this qtion would create additional
problerns in relation to access for largerehicles srrch as buses and
sem.i-trailers
Therefore, it is staffs I reccrmedation that the applicant redesigrn .ln access toIots I and 2 of Chan Harren 3rd Addition in the form of a priyale corurgrcialstreet, intersecLing perpendicularly to Iake Drire East, iror r*rictr the vehicle
inspection site would take acress and Iot 2 would take one access. This slreet
would be pri\rately orrned antl naintained and a cross ac.cess eassrEnt in favor ofall the Cban Ha\ren 3rd A&ition tElcels rould be required. It is reccnnreniedthat the applicant work with staff to determine a suitable pri\rate cqmercialstreet access.
The parking 1ot area and &ive aisle sctrsre for the vetricle inspection stationis a fairly wiII contrived design givea the site area lirnitation. Tte design
has incorporated adegr:ate acress by City Fire protection vehicles. additional
signage recsrrendations harre been made on the revierl plan set. It is
anticipa.ted that the applicant will roork with staff ana incorporate these rdnor
changes on the signage p1an.
TIE. plan subnitted propGes to construct a sanitary ssrer line frcm the erdsting
21 inch trunk ser€r line arong the easterry prcperty line of chan Haven plaza
3rd and e:<tend southhEst toard the rake prive nasC borrerrard area, then eJ<tendwest !o/.ard that street access and finalry er<telrd north into the cuL{e-sacalea. Drring a previous plan revision step, the applicant ras notified by staffthat this arigrgEnt of the sanitary se*€r iras not desireable if it uas priposeato becoe City o^ned and tnaintained in the future.
The. najority of the prqosed sanitarlz serer will be canstructedl outside of Cityrightrf-.my. Ihus, a u-tility easerent will rced to be dedicated. Eorever, thegreater clncertrs for this aligrnent relate to city nainteEnoe of the sanitirysewer in the future. In additio to having a surplus alount of pipe fotage,
and an extra manhole structure, ttE aligrfiEnt is leated in an aiei r*preboulerrard trees and future tandscaping are anticipateil which nay potentiatefuture access. problerns. Ectra pipe fotage equates inlo er.tra joints wtrictr inturn provide increased leations for joini infirtration and naiitenanceresponsibilities. rt is believed that a nore direct aligrrnent courd decrea"ethe pipe fotages bD, Ible than 200 1inea1 feet and eliminate one manholestructure. rt is recdrnerded llrat the appricant nork with staff to develop anore suitable sanitary s€r,,er aligilEnt.
TNILITIES
waEer service for the site is prcpceit to be prorrided be ranoving a hydrant form
the north boulevard of Iake Drive East, connecting into the existlng six inctr
leatl and o<cending the six inch ratermain to the north. lte aliglltrent of this
riaternain octends along the t€sterly portion of the prcposeril drirp area. At
this tire, it is reconrended that the applicant also et tend a six inch lead to
the west prcperty line of Iot 2 and nhich rpon tbvelcptent of Lo,E 2, will be
required to I@p into the o(isting 10" ratermain in the vicinity of the ersterly
property tine. Ttris $atennain is also prcposed to becrcne crned and maintained
fu Ltre City follcr,ring its construction. Tterefore the sanitarl' ssrer and
Gcerrnain shall be designed and construcled according to City stanihrds, final
plans anil specifications for construction shall be sulmitted for city Corncil
approrral and utility easslEnts for the sanitary sgler and natermain will be
required.
Sbarndn A1{aff
Decdnber 26, 1990
Page 5
EASE{BIIS
PMI'IITS
3Ot wide utility easglEjrts c€ntered on the sanitary sener and rttemain shaU be
dedicated on the plat. In aildition, a drainage andl utility eassent will need
to be dedicated through Iot 2 of the Chan Ea\ren Plaza 3rd Addition to encdpass
the terporary &ainage ditch and future o(tensior of the stonn set er. ItE plat
shall also ded.icate ttre prcper rightof<ay needed along tbe northern botuldary
of the site in ac.cordance with the Mn-DOf Trunk HighEy 5 inprovurent project.
There is an existing surface drainage eas€fiErlt shc]nr on the chan Haven 2rd plat
(ref. Carler Ccrlnty B@k 170 page 436) leated in the northrEst guarter of the
IrtL 2. This t€$porary, non-e<clusive appurterant easenEnt for surfac-e &ainage
purposes was acquired for the benefit of the ltbDorral& prcpe-rty. .D.E to the
iec-e5t ilprovarents to the Mcbnalds Prqerty, it alpears that this easslEnt is
no longer needed antl may thelefore be released bY tte City.
Tte applicant shall acquire a ltn-Dof utility construction pendt fc the
installation of the storn sslpr ilischarging into tle Trunk Eigh*ay 5 tlitctt. In
aildition the aplicant shall acguire petmits frcm the Riley-Rrgatclt-Eluff
creek watershed District, the lrtinnesota PoIIuEion Cdltrol rgencT uttl the
Depart[Ent of ltealth.
Reconnelded corditions for replat approval:
1. lte aplicant shall c@rdinate with and dedicate the PrQer
rightd<ray in aceorilance with t'tsr-ryt antt the Tn:nk Eighray 5
inproverent project.
2. ltre applicant shaIl dedicate 30r wiile utility easelEnts cent€red on the
aligtEEnt of the sanitary ss',er anil rEtefiBin.
3. lte applicant shall dedicate a drainage and utility easslEnt acrGs the
easterly parc€l of the plat to proviale for the tsnPorary drainage dirch
and future er<tension of the storm s€nEr-
Sharmin N-Jaff
December 25, 1990
Page 6
4. Ttte street aligrrent and &sign shal1 be revised to eliminate thecul{e-sac. the aFplicant shaIl trcrk hrith staff in redesigning the
ccnnercial &irre which is to be primtely cli,neit antl naintained and allcnfor an access to the vehicle inspection site and one acEess for :.ot 2.
5. A cross aclcess easenEnt along the private drive shall be granted infavor of all parcels in the Chan Haven 3rd A&ition.
6. Tte applicant shall enter into a de\relcgnent c$tract with the City andprovide the necessary financial. seclrity requireat.
Reco rEnd€d conditions for site plan aproval:
1. Tte applicant shall uork with staff to determine a suitable sanitary
seurer aligrrent and shalr o<terd a 6 inch natcrnain to the $est txcpertyline of I.ot 2. Which,.r.pon tlevelcgnent of LoL 2, witl be requirett Lo -
connect into the existing 10" rratermain in the vicinity of tE east-erlyprcperty line.
2. The applicant sha1l acquire a utility cststruction perrnit fron tte
Minnesota D@artiEnt of Eansportation and acquire the prcper Demitsfrcm the Riley-purgatory-Bluff creek-{atershed Districtl tire uinnesotaPollut ion Cqrtrol egency and the @arUrent o€ Hc.t Ut.
3. l{hen the easterry porti*r of the chan Ha\ren plaza 3rd A&ition develcpesin the future, the proposed storm ser€r ortret shalr be extenited to tbefuture detention pond and the tsnporary ditch shall be eliminated.Capacity of the future detention pord sha11 incorporate the fla,quant.ity frdn the prcposed stoEn serrcr andl santteh portion of ttEvehicle inspection site.
4- The appricant shatl pregnre plans and specifications for the aesign andconstrustion of the sanita4r sa,rer, and $atermain and sutmit tor 6ityco:ncil approyar. rf any st rm ssiErs are constructed within a publicright-d<ay or easerEnt it shaU be designed and cqrstrrcted in'accordance with City standards.
5. Applicant sharl instarr ard maintain I}Be rrr ereion clontrol arornd therietland area until tLrrf is established.
1ap
c: Da\re HgIpel, Sr. Engineering ltechnician
CITY OF
EH,[NH[ESEN
690 COULTER DRIVE . P.O, BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
UEMORANDUI.{
TO: Sharmin Al-Jaffr P1
FROM: Todd Eoffman, Park
DATE: December 19, 1990
SUBJ: Planning Case 9 0-11
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anil Recreation Coortlinator
Site Plan
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In revie\.r,ing the site plan for the replat of Chan Eaven Plaza 2nd
Addition, it is my recommenCation to accePt Park and trail fees
in lieu of tand dealication, trail construction or the acquisi-
tion of trail easenents. At Present, the sidewalk along the
north side of Lake Drive East paratlels the entire southerly
border of the subject property. In the area. of park land acquisi-
tion, this site ii not designated as park deficient nor woulil the
development of a park on site be desirable.
As there is no scheiluled Park and Recreation Cornnission meeting
prior to the review of this site Plan on January 2, 199I, these-recommendat ions are being made consistent with prior action taken
by the commission. Should you have any adlditional questions,
please contact me.
cc: Don Ashworth, CiEY !{anager
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CITY OF
EH[NH[ESEN
690 COULTER DRIVE . P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937-5739
MEMORAN DUM
Sharni n
Steve A.
December
Planning
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Al -Jaff, Planner I
Kirchnan, Bui lding Of f icia
17, 1990
Case 90-11 Site Plan (vehicle inspection station)
I The handicap sign shown on theapproved by the Building Codesnot acceptable. The approved
handout.
plans, #R?-8A, is not the signand Standards Division and issign is shown on the acconpanying
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FROM:
DATE !
SUBJ:
2. Building must be a sprinklered.
EII[NH[E$EN
2 was amended to require
future signs identifYing
Effective date of this
Noverober 7, L990
I'linnesota Statute 169.396 subd.
new information on existing and
parking stalls for the disabled.
new law is llovember 15, 1990.
Sisns rust be worded as shoh,n below with white charactors
anX a blue fieId.
Steve A. Kirchran
Building Official
CITY OF
690 COULTEB DHIVE . P,O, BOX 147 O.CHANHASSEN. MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900. FAX (612) 937.5739
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DISABLED
PARKING
STATE PERMIT
REOUIRED
VIOLATEBS FINED
uP TO s200.oo
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tlnnuola Depailment ol Tnnrpoilaton
lletropolllan Olstrlct ti)Transportatlon Bulldlng
St. Paul, lllnnesota 55155 j igg|
Oakdale Office, 3485 Hadley Avenue North, Oakdale, Minnesota 55128 ,
Golden Valley Office, 2055 North Lilac Drive, Golden VJ[ey, Minnesota SS42iry4SSEV
December 27, L990
Reply to
Telephone No.
IvIs. Sharmin AI-Jaff, Plenner I
City of Chenhssssa
690 Coulter Drive
P.O. Box 147
Chanh6s611, I\{innesota 55317
c.s. 1002 Tlt 5
SW Quadrant TH 5 & Dakota Ave.
Chanhassen
Replat of Chan Haven Plaza2nd Addition
MINNTSOrA
xr90
593 -8523
- No direct access to TH 5 win be permitted.- Maintain current drainage patterns and rate of runoff.- No permis have been issued or applied for.
- [n your December 14, 1990 letter you asked us to clariS condition #l of our November
28, lgg0letter. We offer the following in order to clari& this condition:
- The right of way shown on the plans appears to match the needs of the TH 5
project.
- Access control was originally acquired from this parcel (tbe eutire parcel) to TH
5. The state will be acquiring access control to correspond to the new right of way
line.
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Dear Ms. Al-Jaff:
We are in receipt of the above referenced plat for our review in accordance with Minnesota
Statutes 505.02 and 505.03 Plats and Suneys. we find the plat acceptable for further
development with consideration of tbe following comments:
An Equal Opportunity Employet
Ms. Sharmin Al-Jaff
December 27,1990
Page Two
If you have any questions in regard to our review of the plat please call me.
Sincerely,
0rir'l.A
Rick Daltoq P.E.
Project Manager
cc:Steve Keefe, Metropolitan Council
Roger Gustafson, Caner County
Ted Kemn4 Carver County Surveyor
TRAFFIC STUDY
and
AIR QUALITY AIiIALYSIS
VEHICLE INSPECTION STATION
Lake Drlve at Dakot! Avenue
Chanhassen. lllruesotr
Prepared for
SysteBa Control Inc.
Davld Braslau Assoclatas, Inc.
19 Deceuber 1990
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CON?ENTS
Introduction and Sumary
Vehlcle Inspectlon Statlon and Study Area
Basellne Traffic Condttlons ( 1992 )
ProJected Sltc Trafflc
Traffic Impects
Air Quellty Inpacts
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Layout of the propoied Sire
Hourly Traffic on Lakc Drlve
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New TH 5rzDe11 Avlnuc Intcr3ectlon Ijyout
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1. Introductlon snd SuEnary
This trafflc lnpact and air quallcy report has been prepared for the
proposed Vehiele Inspectlon SEatlon to be loceEed on Lake Drlve Just east of
Dakota Avenue ln Chanhassen, Ml.nnesota. Thle report has been prepared ln
response to requlreEents by the Hinnesota PollutLon Control Agency to ensure
that alr quall.ty problens ar€ not encountered et or near the slte. Thlc ls
the second sltr to be cvaluated ln the Clty of Chanhassen. The prevlous slte,
located on Park Road betneen County Road 17 and Audubon Roed, ras dropped frou
conslderatl.on.
Trafflc data fron 1986 and 1989 havc been adJusted to L992 ustng an an-
nual grovth rate of 3l per year to rccount for potentlal grolrth ln thc study
aree. For the year 1992 (one year after operatlon of the ststlon) an analysls
has been prepared for both the basellnc scenarlo (vlthout the statlon) and for
the basellne + statlon scenarlo.
Trafflc has been analyzed et the followlng t$o lntersectlons through
uhtch the Dajorlty of trafflc rri.ll pass travclllng to and frora the slte:
Trunk Hlghway s/Dakota Avenue
It ls assumed that at leest 20t of thc trafflc
pass through che TH 5rlDe11 Avenue lnterccctlon rhlch
half nlle east of the s1Ee.
ecccsslng the sltc slll
Ilea approxlnately one-
There are four alr quallty reccptorr rrlthln several hundred feet of
these tuo intersectlons. Thls report ldentlfles these tecepEors and dlscuises
potentlal alr quallty LEpaccs at these locatlons. fhe potentlal for nolse 1o-
pacts on edjacenE land uses ls also addregeed.
The rcsulte of the trafflc and llE quallty analyaia Ehow thet:
Trafflc generated by the lnspectlon flclllty hea niniual iEpact on the
TH srlDakota Avenue lntersectlon durlng th. Pl{ Peak Hour.
Trafflc generated by the lnspectlon faclllty has a larger lBplct on th6
Dakota Avenue/Lake Drive lnlersectlon durlng thc Noon Hour, but no uaJor
problens are anttclpated.
Of the four alr quallty receptor 61te3 located near the two crltlcal ln-
tersections, the Slnclalr Servlce Statlon l.s projected to have thc hlghest
l-hour and 8-hour C0 levels, al,though thcaG 116 rrel1 belor the correrponding
standards.
Noia. crlaEed by trafflc trewclllng to rnd froD th. 31t. f3 .xp.ctcd to
be less chan Ealnllnc noke fron TH 5. The nolsc contours assoclated rlEh
d)ma.DoEeter operaElon arG expected to 1lc vlthln the property or th. edJlcent
rretland.
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2. Vehlcle Inspection Scatlon and Sludy Area
The proposed development is one of eleven vehicle inspection statrons lnthe T',ln clties Hetropolltan Area rhlch are requlred under l{innesote lau andthe u.s. Envlronnental ProtecElon Agency to Eeet emblent alr quality standardsfor carbon Honoxlde (c0). The chanhassen site wtrl be the ihe wJslern uostsite of the eleven. A slte ln Minnetonka vill be to the northeast and a artein savage to the southeast. _Each gasoline powered euto.obrlc and lrght truckricensed ln Minnesora uill be requrred to pass an exhaus! enissioni tesE atone of these stations before the rrcense can bc renewed. The test norualryrequlres ap-pr-oxinately trio nlnutes. rhe general location of the sltc is shornnln Flgure 2.1. A detarred layouc of the -proposed lnspectron statron ia shornln Flgure 2,2.
Planned eccess to the srte rrlrr be frou a cur-de-eac off of Lrkc DrrveJusE easr of Dakola Avenue. Trlp dlstrlbutlon to and fron the 8lt. is ars_cussed ln Sectlon 4.0.
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Hourly variations ln traffic on Leke Drlve ln 1989 are shorn ln Flgure
3.1. Also shown ln the fiture ls the expected trefflc generated by the lnspec-
tion station (ulEloete 1998 levels are ahorrn ln th. flgure). Thc aharp peak
durlng the noon hour lndlcates the luportancc of trafflc assocleted rlEh the
l{cDonald's restaurant at thls locatlon. It can be aeen that the lnspecElon
Etatlon trafftc ls snall telative to the culrenc trafflc !t thls locatlon.
Assurned 1992 baseline PH Peak Hour trafflc at TH 5 and Dakota Avenue and
Dakota Avenue and Lske Drlve are shosn in Tabla 3.1. Also shorn ln Tablc 3.1
are the assumed 1992 basellne voluues durlng the noon hour at the DakoEa
Avenue/Lake Drlve lntersectLon. The Pl{ Peak Hour Ls Eost crltlcal at the TH
s/Dakota Avenue lncersectlon, uhlle the Noon Hour Ls nos! crltlcel aE the
Dakota Avenue/I-ake Drive lntersectlon.
.The TH S/Dakota Avenue lntersection has been analyzed using the HCS ln-
tersectlon capacity prograr for signaLized lntersectlons. Ttte results of the
run are contained Ln Appendix A, The reeults of thls analysls for the
basellne period lndlcaEes a LOS C for the lntersectlon and an overall lntersec-
tion delay of L7.7 seconds.
The DakoEa Avenue/Leke Drive lntersecclon has been enalyzed uslng the
HCS lncersecEion capaclty prograo for unslgnallzed lnlersectlons. The results
of this run for the PU Peek Hour are also concelned ln ApPendlx A. The lnter-
Eectlon is esttEated to be at LOS A for ell oovenents under basellne eondl-
tions ln 1992.
Hour1y traffic counts on Lake Drlve betneen Dakota Avenue and the
HcDonald's access have been obtained for 1989. Hourly turning EoveEents e!the TH S/DakoEa Avenue lnEersectlon have been obtalned froo the Hlnnesota
Departmenc of Transportatlon for Al.1 and PH peak perlods 1n 1985. These have
been Lncreased at 3l per year to 1992 to yleld basellne trafflc for the
analys ls ,
The assuned approach lane eonfiguratlon used ln the traffic analysls for
the TH S/Dakota Avenue intersectlon ls shorn ln Flgure 3.2. At the Dakota
Avenue/Lake Drlve lnlersectlon, there ls only one approach lane ln cgch dlrec-
tion. Flgure 3.3, shoring the new intersectlon at TH 5/De11 Road, ls lncluded
here to show that the lnEersectlon should encounter no capaclty problens ln
handllng the 20t of trefflc assumed to access the faclllty through this inte!-
sectlon.
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4. Projecred Slte Trafflc
A. Sire generated traffic
The slte trafflc assuEed here ls 156f of the average delly trlpgeneretlon tn 1998. rt r.5 expecEed to occur during the last flve- rorkrng daysof the oonths between Harch and Deceober due to a curge in rnspectlons s.s the
-end,of the nonth ls rpproached. Thts lnforEatlon islerlved iro, .xp.rt"n..by Systeros Gontrol Inc. at alEes ln other states.
Peak day tuo-ray trefflc- fo_r thc proJect has been estlDeted byllestnood Professronar servlces to be 1,260 ADT in i99g. ttrts coupare: ,tah ".,cstlEated 2,260 ADT for th. adJ acent t{cDonald, r reataurant.
For purposes of the lupact- -enalysla ln thls repor!, thc follonlngnumber of lnspecclone arc assuled ior 1992: -
P}{ peak Hour: 60 Lnspectlonr per hour
Noon Hour: 90 inspectlona per hour
B. DlsErlbutlon by approach and roadnay
The statlon has been located !t tha current ar.Ee to sarvGvehlcle popularton in thls porrlon of the l{etrololiran Area.
The fol.rournt trrp drstriburlon for the sire has been assu,ed:
Turnlng DoveDencsare shorn ln fabls 3.1.
the
20r
10r
25r
5r
40r
assoclated rlth the assuned lnspectlon trafflc
101 North
101 South
1H5 West
78rh St.West
TH5 East
Of- the 40t arrlvlng fro. thc cast,. lt ls assuoed thEt 2Ot (or half) of rhese1111 access the Blte via DelI a".n,re ltAaJilvenre west).
IJtth the reconstruction of TH5, the Dakota Avenue and the Dell Avenue lnter.:.::tio5 w111 be loproved. rslands vllr be "ld"d on Dakora Avenuc south ofTH5, rhtch-wlll provtde for- iuproved a.ifif"-ifo". A lefc turn lanc Le an-ticlpated for wesEbound traffrc on rH5 ai o"ir -a".r,,r"
uhrch wtl1 enhance thlsDoveEen!.
C. ,pass-byr tlip assuDptlons
It ls assuned- thet-all trlps to the rtaElon rrc nel, trlpa. cven;:;:E:;j"tll nunber (5r or resil ;;t;;;y bc travelrlng o,,-ii-s p""t
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A. Traffic volruec alth thG propos.d projcct
PM Peak Hour trafflc volruet slth thc projcct lrc tlso pre.ent€dln Table 3.1
The HCS signallzed lnteraectlon progrlD l,aa epplled to the TH 5/
DakoEa Avenue lntersectlon ulth basellnc + lnspectlon atatlon trafflc. Theresults of thls run are contalned ln Appendlx A. No change ln LOS and overalllntersectlon delay tlne ls lndlcated. The only notlceable change occure lnthe V/C ratio, whlch Lncreases fron 0.458 to 0.483 (a 3t tncreasc).
Therefore, no slgnlflcant lEpects on the TH s/Dakote Avenue lnter-
sectlon are expected because of the vehlcle lnspectlon 3tatlon.
The Dakota Avenue/.ake Drlva lntersectlon lE treeted as an unslg-
nallzed lntersectlon controlled by a stop slgn for caat end uest bound traf-fic. It !s assumed thet only one approach lane ln cach directlon vlII beprovlded. The analysla ls perforued for both the PH Peak Hour and thc NoonHour, which representa the rorat caae for thls lntcrsectlon clth both
HcDonalds and lnspectlon Btatlon trafflc peaklng durlng thls perlod.
An analysls of tho Dakota Avenue/Lakc Drlve lnEersectlon durlng
the Pl{ Peak Hour lndicaEes a Lcvel. of Service A for basellne traffic in 1992.IJlth the lnspectlon sEation, the Eastbound left turn EoveEent ts LDS 8, which
is a uininal lupact.
During the noon hour, uhen the l{cDonald's trafflc and the lnspec-
tlon station trafflc 1s Breetest, the Eastbound left oovenent (estlEated to be
only 70 vph) ts an LOS E and the liestbound left oovenent (only 30 vph) le an
LOS.C. OtherrrlEe all uoveroenls are LOS A. Thcrcforc, cven during the peak
period of Ehe statlon and HcDonalds, the lntersectlon 1111 functlon ulthout
any ProbleEs.
No problens are antlclpaEed at the lccesa to HcDonaLds bccause ofstation traffic, since totel trafflc flon on l,ake Drlve 1g 1or,
B. Ingress/egreeg lssues
Ingress to and egress fron thc sltc 1111 be fron the eul-de-sacoff of Lake Drive. The eervlce roaduay v111 bring vehlclea to the north 6ideof the slte (Jusc south of TH 5) wherc they rlll rntcr th. lnspecElon scatlon.
c.On-site elrculatlon
The statlon le located on thc northerly portlon of th. proplrcy
end the servl.cc road nllI brlng vehlclca to and froE thc lnspectlon area,
There ls adequace queulng for vehlclcr ln the vlclnlty of the 3tBtlon and noproblens rrlth queulnB elong lhe accesa road lre antlclprted.
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6. Alr Quallty Inpacts
6.1 Baseline Carbon Honoxide l,evels
TAILE 6.1
SOURCE OF CO BACKGROIJND DATA
souRcE I,OCATION DATE DISTA}ICE 1.HR 8. HR
TH 212 EIS Chaska Htgh School 1988 2 ullea I.3 ppn 1.2 ppn
Basellne carbon oonoxide levels are the projected levels in 1992,lncluding background, rrlthout the vehlcle inspection s;tion. CO backgroundlevels have been developed rn cooperatlon rith liinnesota porlutlon controrAgency staff. The sourc_e and date of co background levels for the chanhaesenslte 16 ldentlfled in Teblr 9.1.
The tine adj ustedpresented in Table 5.2.
background levels used in the 1992 analysle are
The receptor sltes loceted near the trro crltlcal lnEersections are ahown
'n Elgure 6'1' Four receptor s1!e3 lre ro".i"a sdjacenE to chese lnEersec-tions:
TASLE 6.2
ASSWED CO BACKGROIJND LEVEIS
1. HOUR 8 - HOI'R
1.0 ppu 0.9 ppn
(1)
(2)
(3)
(4)
Hone NE of the TH5lDakor! intersectlon (north of Tgth St. es well)Horre sourhyesr of the Dakota/hke orf". 'iiaJr"I"tro"
HcDonelds (east of Dakota beiwee" rHi ""i r.tl-orrr.)Slnclalr Servtee sretlon (m of oakolaTf.t. Jrl"" lntcrscctlon)
Basellne concentratlons have been prsdicted for both 1_hour end8'hour tlne perlods for shlch upce intreit -a-r-i quality atandards have becn es-tabllshed' To estrDsre g-:!o"r- .""i""ai.arl"r, lverage g-hour volune, on r, 5have been assumed to be 67t of ru pesk-i-""i ior.rr"". on Dakota Avenuc endLake Drlve, average g'hour traffic is ass,-ed to be the sane as pl{ peak Hourtraffic because of the rarge ,roo' p""k .-"-"I.1-.a.a uith HcDonards and the noonuaxlnum associared wtrh ttrJ l""p""dro"- "t"1ioi-.'
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Roadway concenEraElons have been coEputed uslng the HOBILE 4 enls-slons nodel fron the us EpA and the CALTNE 3 disperslon nodel fron carlfornlauhLch- 1s approved by the us EpA and the MpcA. rt is ass,med that 2ot of thevehlcles are ln the cold start Dode. An average speed of 45 urph is assu.ned onTH 5 irlrh 25 nph on all other roadways. a rrnd ipeed of l ueter per secondblowing froE a directton_ co- yrerd th; hlghest concencration at eaci recepEorsite ls assuned. The exlstrnp roadrrev s;onetry has been assured in the arrquallty analysis and no rrnor-ovenents aie assr:rred. The ner rntersection rayoutv111 provlde cwo lef! tuln ranes fror EB to NB rchrch does not drreccly servelnspection station trafflc.
The basellne l-hour and g-hour CO concentrations (i.c. predlcted1992 coneentratrons trlthout the scetlon) for the receptor sltes rinaer thebasellne scenario are presented in Tablc 6.3.
The naxlutrn l-hour baselinr concentrlt1on of 5,1 ppn ls proJcctedat the Slnclalr Servlce Statr.on. The DaxlDuD g-ho,r,
"orr."rrt..tfo. oi-2.7 pp,is proJected for the sauc tecepEor si!e.
6,2 Carbon llonoxtde Inpacts
C0 concentratlons nhlch include thB iEpect of station-related traf-flc are presented ln ?ab1e G.i.
The naxlnura l-hour Carbon llonoxide concentration proJected for thePr Peak Hour ln 1gg2 vtth the rnspecEl." "*aioo 's 5.2 ppn ar rhe slnclarrs.atlon.rrhich is -a 0.1 ppn increasi over the S.i pp, basellne level. Thls con-pares ulth the l-hour atandard of 30 ppn, The iaxfunuo g-hour co concentrall.nls projecced ar rhe same receptor ."d -r" z.z ppn rrlth ana rrtthoui - ti;-i;;il'jtion staElon, Thls conpares rlth the g-hour st'anaard of 9 ppu.
The highest 1-hour CO concentratlon at the hoEeDakota/kke Drlve tnrersecrlon ls projecieJ Jic I.B ppn utrh thesraEion, conpared rrlth 1.7 ppn wtrhoui lt.
6.3 Concluslons
SIJ of the
lnspecElon
While the Droject will cause a srnall lncrease ln traffie !t thd THS/Dakota Avenue intersection and at rhe D;k;;;-ivenue/Lake Drlve lntersectlon,alr qualiry rnpecrs are esriEaced to ue siiiil ihc htghest predrcred g-hour coconcentration is onlv 2-7 ppo , rhich ls bel0n the g ppn standard. Thc naxluua1-hour concenrrarion- is s.2-pin, ,"iri"io"-it J' ro pp, 1-hour standard. Thus,no signiflcanE adverse atr qualtty iDpscts aie prcAfctca for this cltc.
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TABLE 5.3
Predicted Basellne CO ConcentratlonE
Chantrassen Slte - 1992
Trafflc CO (ppn) Background (pprn)
Recepto! Slte
IJind
Dlr 1 Hour 8 Hour 8 Hour* 1 Hour 8 Hour
Totals (ppn)
1 Hour I Hour**
Tll 5/Dakota Avenue
Hooc N. of TH 5
l{acDonalds
Slnclalr Stetlon
Dakota Awe/Leke Drive
HacDonalds
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Slnclalr Stetion
250
330
40
210
50
130
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0.7
0.8
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0.7
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1.0
1.0
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0.9
0.9
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0.90.5 1.0
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1.2 1.9
2.8 1.7
5.1 2.7
1.8
1.7
1.8
1.5
1.4
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hour adJusted uslng a 0.70 oeteorological perslstence factor
hour total is adjusted 8-hour level plus background
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Predlcted Baseline + Statlon CO Concentratlons
Chanhassen Slte - 1992
Trafflc CO (ppn) Background (ppu)Totals (ppm)
Receptor S lte
TH s/Dakote Avenue
Hone N. of TH 5
llacDonalds
Slnclalr Sterion
Dakota Ave/Lake Drtve
tlacDonalds
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Slnclair Station
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50
130
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3.2
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40
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1.0
1.0
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0.9
1.0
1.0
1.0
1.1
0.8
0.9
0.8
0.6
0.6 0.9
0.9
0.9
0.9
0.9
0.9
1.9
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2.7
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1.8 1.5
1.9 1.5
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7. Nolse lDpacts
7.L Vehicles entering and leavlng the fsclllty
Traffic novlng through the Dakota/Leke Drlve lntersectl.on vlIl betravelllng at relatlvely lon speeds. Llttle heawy conmerclal traffic cur-rently uses the lntersectlon and no heawy coDDerclal vehlcles rll)- be using
the vehlcle lnspecllon steElon. Therefore, traffic nolse levels are expected
to be donLnated by traffic along TH5 rhlch ll.ee only 300 feet north of thls
intersection.
Nolsc contrlbuted by trefflc on Lakc Drlvc lc Gstlnsted to lncrcase less
than 1 dBA because of the eddltlonal trafflc to and fron the lnsPectlon ata-
tlon.
7.2 Vehtcles uattlng ln queue at the faclllty
vehicles walting tn the queue rr111 be ldltng. It ls unlikely thet
a vehlcle vith an obvlously bad nuffler $ould cone for lnspecclon slnce the
vehicle would be eutouatlcally teJectrd. Therefore, nolsc frou ldling
vehicles w111 be at or belov the already exlstlng amblent' level ln the aree
caused prirnary by traffic flou on TH 5.
7.3 Operationel Nolse Levela
D)manoneters are used to brlng vehlclcg thst fall the lnltlal test
up to norrDel operatlng condltlons. Itre d]maEoEeter ls operaEed 30 seconds for
each of Ehe 20t of vehlcles that fall the inltlal te8t. Thus, uhen e lane ls
opeleEing er capaclEy (35 vehicles per hour) an average of 7 vehicles per liour
vould requlre use of the dynamoneter. At 30 seconds per vehlcle, thls ylelds
3.5 ninutes per hour during uhich the d)maooEeter rr111 be operating.
In order to estinale the total operatlng, tlEe of the d)maDoDeter
durlng cepeciEy operatlon of the statlon, a randoo tine ues asslgned to Gach
of seven vehlcles in each of the three test lenes. The folloring resultg rere
obtalned:
l{lnuEes Durlng the Cepaclty Hour
tJhen at least one d)manoneter ls rurmlng: 6. 8
llhen t$o d)maEoDeters are runnlng sluultaneously: 2.9
lJtren three d)manonetcrs arc rurmlng eluultaneously: 0.7
The dynanometera ar3 located lpprorlDetely 15 feet Lnglde tha
entrence. Sound level readlngs havc bcen taken by SysteEs Control for e
vehlcle trlth all-rreather tlrcs on ! d)ma[oEeter. llhllc thesc are hlgher than
rould be expected for normal tlres, these levelr havc boen used to provide cs-
tlmates of worst case levelg. These readlnge have been used to generate aound
contours at the Chadhessen slte.
Tlro contoura are shonn ln Exhlblt 7.1. The closcst contour ls 55
dBA (corresponding to the L10 standatd). The second contour ls 60 dBA(corresponding to thc L50 standard). Because of the northr/south orlentatlon
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EheEselves will be contalned entlrely r,lthln the Eite or the yetlands eouth ofthe slte.
7.4 SuEEary of Nolse Iupacts
chi itlq.r.p 90017-06
Besed upon thls cvaluatlon of nolsa eulsslons froD thc proposedvehlcle lnspectlon station, no slgniflcant noise LEpacts on surrounding- landuses can be expected frou elther trafflc acceaslng the Elte or faciltty opera-tlon. whlle sooe gounds frou the facirlty uay be heard periodlcall! durtngthe day, the sverage energr level of these-nolic eulsslons ulrl bc reil beloistate,standards for adJ acent land uses. These levels ritr generalry be bcloralready exlstlng levels caused by trafflc on TH 5.
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lrY ttt€Ftxat trnE
f:fl roru,r' @'"tt'ra'
- .- a tllla trr
--- 'lrcrosao
trt
- --- tt5tca.ar tat'r"xr!IJ
I
FIGT'RE 7.1
D)maooDeter Nolse Contourg
(1)
(2)
(3)
(4)
(s)
TH 5 8t Dakota Avenue
TH 5 at Dakola Avenue
Dakota Avenue at l.ake
Dakota Avenue et Lake
Dakota Avenue at lake
APPENDIX A
HCS COMPUTER PRINTOUTS
- PM Peak Hour (Baseltne)
- Pl,t Peak Hour (Basellne+stalion)
Drive - PM Peak Hour (Basellne)
Drive - Pl{ Peak Hour (Baseline + starion)
Drive - Noon Hour (Baseline + station)
I
1985 HCH: SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS
SUUIARY REPORT
***********************************ffi ***#******!:*****#****fr ******
INTERSECTION. . TH 5/DAXOTA
AREA TYPE.....OTHER
ANALYST.......DB
DATE
TIME
CoMMENT.......
12-12-1990
PU PEAX HOUR 19 92
BASELINE ONLY
EB
12 .0
12 .0
12.0
12 .0
t2.o
12.0
SB
12.0
12 .0
12.0
12 .0
12 .0
12.0
voLrruEsI.'B NB53 27747 44
350 55299 24
GEO}IETRYIJB NB
12 .0 LT 12.012.0 T 12.0
12 .0 rR 12.0
Lz.O 12.0
12.0 12.012.0 12.0
L
T
T
R
LT
T
TR
L
T
T
R
EB
WB
NB
SB
GRADE
(r)
0.00
0.00
0 .00
0.00
HV
(s)
2 .00
2 .00
2.00
2.OO
ADJUSIUEM FACTORS
ADJ PKG BUSES PHT PEDS
Y/N Nn llb
N O 0 0.90 0N 0 0 0.90 0
N 0 0 0.90 0
N 0 0 0.90 0
PED.
Y/N
N
N
N
N
BUT.
nin T
25.8
25.8
31.8
31.8
ARR. TYPE
3
3
3
3
SICNAL SETTINGS
PH.3 PH.4
NB
GYCLE LENGTH -PH-2 PH.3PH
99 .0
PH.4
EB LT
TH
RT
PD
IIB LT
TH
RT
PD
GREEN
YELLOW
LT
TH
RT
PD
SB LT
TH
RT
PD
GREEN
YELI Ol{
30.0
3.0
PH.1
40.0
3.0
PH.2
x
20.0
3.0
x
x
x
-1
x
x
x
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.0 0.0 0.00.0 0.0 0 .0
I.AN GRP v/c
LEVEL OF SERVICE
G/C DEIAY LOS
EB
I'B
NB
SB
2t
t9
13
05
05
53
55
85
51
52
.202
.404
.707
.202
.404
.707
24.L
15. 5
3.3
?5.O
18.2
3.4
18.6
18.8
21.8
18.6
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
F
L
T
R
L
T
R
L
0.0
0.3
0.0
o.2
0,5
0.0
0.0
0.0
0.4
0.0
TR
L
c
c
A
D
c
A
c
c
c
c
APP. DE1AY
15 .4
t7.9
18.7
21.1
A?P. I.oS
c
.303
.303
.303
.303
c
c
c
TR
INTERSECTION:Delay - 17.7 (seclveh) \/C - 0.458 LOS c
EB
LT7TH 431RT 19
RR6
SB
185
42
11
5
x
x
x
1985 HC}!: SICNALIZED INTERSECTIONS
SUMMARY REPORT
*********************************:.*ffi *ffi ******ffi*****:**:**{-*******
INTERS ECTION. . TH 5/DAXOTA
AREA TYPE.....OTHER
ANALYST.......DB
DATE
TIME
coMuENT.......
t2-12-L990
PI.t PEAK HOI'R 19 92
BASELINE + STATION
VOLWES
WB NB75 48
747 59350 67299 24
GEOMETRY
LT
TH
RT
RR
EB
7
431
40
6
SB
185
57
EB
12 .0
12.0
L2.O
12 .0
12 .0
L2.O
IJB
12.0
12.0
12.0
t2.o
12 .0
12 .0
LT
T
NB
12 .0
L2 .O
12 .0
12.0
12 .0
12 .0
LT
T
TR
SB
12 .0
L2.O
12 .0
L2.O
12.o
12 .0
11
5
L
Tr
R
L
T
T
R
TR
GRADE(r)
EB 0. 00tJB 0.00NB 0.00sB 0.00
EB LT
TH
RT
PDIIB LT
TH
RT
PD
GREEN
YELI.OW
HV(r)
2 .00
2.00
2 .00
2.OO
ADJUSTI,IENT FACTORS
ADJ PKG BUSES PHF PEDS
YrzN Nm Nb
SIGNAL SETTINGS
0. 90
0. 90
0. 90
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
o
N
N
N
N
0. 90 3
3
3
3
0
0
0
0
x
x
x
x
x
x
PED.
Y/N
N
N
N
N
BL':t.
uln T
23.8
25 .8
31. 8
31. 8
0.0 00.0 0
ARR. TYPE
99 .0
PH -4PH-l PH.2 PH-3 PH.4
x
x
x
GYCLE LENGTH .PH.l PH-2 PH.3
40.0
3.0
20.0
3.0
NB LT
TH
R?
PD
SB LT
T}I
RT
PD
GREEN
YELI,oW
x
I
x
0.0 0
0.0
30.0
3.0
0
0
0
0 0
0
0
0
0
EB
WB
NB
SB
v/c
0. 023
0. 349
0. 035
o .244
0. 605
0.053
0.118
0. 117
0.479
0.059
LEVEL OF SERVICE
C /c DEIAY IJOS.202 24.! c.404 15.6 c.707 3.3 A.202 25.3 D.4O4 L8.2 c.707 3.4 A.303 19.0 c.303 19. O c.303 22.0 c.303 18.7 c
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
18 .0
19.0
2t.2
APP. Los
It
c
c
c
IANE GRP.
L
T
R
L
T
R
L
TR
L
TR
APP. DEIAY
14. 9
INTERSECTION: Delay - 17.7 (sec/veh ) V/C - 0.483 IOS _ C
1985 HCM: UNSICNALIZED INTERSECTIoNS Page-).*********************************************************************
IDENTIFYING INFORHATION
AVERAGE RUNNING SPEED, HAJOR STREET,. 30
PEAK HOI'R TACTOR.
AREA POPUIATION.....
NAfiE OF THE EASTNEST STREET,
NAUE OF THE NORTH/SOUTH STREET.......
NAME OF THE ANALYST
DATE 0F THE ANALYSIS (m/dd/yy)......
TIME PERIOD ANALYZED.
OTHER INFORUATION. . . . BASELINE ONLY
INTERSECTION TYPE AND CONTROL
.9
50000
IAKE DRIVE
DAXOTA AVENUE
DB
12 - 13-1990
PI{ PEAK HOUR 1992
INTERSECTION TYPE: 4.LEG
MAJoR STREET DIRECTIoN: NoRTH/SOUTH
coNTRoL rYPE EASTBoITND: SToP SIGN
CoNTRoL TYPE wEsTBolrND: SToP SIGN
TRAFFIC VOLUMES
LEFT
THRU
RIGHT
13
40
115
30
L7
8
5
33
17
78
45
10
NU}IBER OF IAIES AND 1ANE USAGE
EB I.IB NB SB
II,.ANES 1 I
EB WB NB SB
1
PERCENT
GRADE
RIGHT TI'RN
ANGLE
CURB RADIUS ( fc)
FOR RIGIIT TI'RNS
ACCELESATION IANE
FOR RIGHT TI'RNS
EASTBOT'ND O. OO
I'ESTBOUND O. OO
NORTHBOI'ND O. OO
SOUTHBOUND O. OO
VEHICLE COI.TPOSITION
90
90
90
90
20
20
20
20
N
N
N
N
I SU TRUCKS
AND RV'S
t COMBINATION
VEHICLES t UOTORCYCLES
EASTBOUND
IJESTEOUND
NORTHEOUND
SOUTHBOUND
CRITICAL GAPS
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
TASUIAR VALUES
(Table 10-2)
ADJUSTED
VALUE
SIGHT DIST.
ADJUSTI.{ENT
FINAL
CRITICAL GAP
HINOR RIGHTS
I{INOR THROUGHS
EB
I{B
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION
EB 5.50
5. 50
5.50
5. 50
0. 00
0. 00
SB
NB
WB
5.50
5.50
5.00
5 .00
00
00
5
5
5.00
5 .00
5.00
6 .00
6.50
6.50
5.50
5.50
0. 00
0.00
5.00
5.00
6.00
5 .00
6.50
5.50
0.00
0. 00
0
0
00
00
EB
WB
NA}IE OF THE EAST/TJEST STREET...... IAKE DRIVE
NAI{E OF THE NORTH/SOUTH STREET.... DAXOTA AVENUE
DATE AND TIHE oF IHE AtrALySIS..... t2-13-I990 ; pu pEAX HOUR 1992
OTHER INFORHATION.... BASELINE ONLY
ADJUSTI{ENT FACTORS ., page - 2
},IAJOR LETTS
0
0
0
0
HINOR LEFIS
CAPACITY AND LEVEL.OF- SERVICE Page - 3
MOVEMENT
HINOR STREET
EB LEFT
THROUGH
RICHT
HINOR STREET
I{B LEFT
THROUGH
RIGHT
},AJ OR STREET
SB LEFT
NB LETT
POTEN.
ELOW. TIAL
RATE CAPACITY
v(pcph) c (pcph)
P
SHARED
CAPACIlT
c (pcph)
SH
RESERVE
GAPACITY
-c -v Los
RSH
c
37
2L
10
578
792
997
475
744
997
> 473 >
> 585 744 >
>997>
>640>> 888 74? > 683>998>
438 > A
517 723 >A A
987 > A
625 > A
598 >A A
857 > A
15
49
141
697
796
998
640
747
998
95 1000
1000
1000
1000
905
9946
1000
1000
A
A
IDENTIFIING INFORMATION
NA!,IE OF THE EASTAEST STREET. . . . . . I,AKE DRIVE
NAUE OF THE NORIH/SOUTH STREET.... DAROTA AVENUE
DATE AND TIHE oF THE ANALYSIS..... 12-13-1990 ; PH PEA( HoUR 1992
OTHER INFOR}IATION. . . . BASELINE ONLY
ACTUAL
UOVEI{ENT
CA?ACITY
c (pcph)
!{
1985 HCU: lrNS IGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS***************************************************************liiiil
IDENTITYING INFORMATION
AVERAGE RI'NNING SPEED, }IA'OR STREET.. 30
PEAK HOI'R FACTOR. .g
AREA POPUIATION..... 5OOOO
NN{E OF THE EASTAEST STREET. IAKE DRIVE
NAI,TE OF THE NORTH/SOUTH SIREET....... DN(OTA AVENUE
NAI{E OF THE ANALYST. .......... DB
DATE OF THE ANALYSIS (w/dd/yy). ..... 12-13-1990
TIUE PERIOD ANALYZED. .. PU PEAX HOI'R 1992
OTHER INFOR}.{ATION. . . . BASELINE + STAUON
INTERSECTION TYPE AI\ID CONIROL
INTERSECTION TYPE: 4.LEG
I.IAJOR STREET DIREGTIoN : NoRIH/SoUTH
CoNTRoL TYPE EASTBoITND: SrOp SIGN
CoNIRoL IYPE WESTBoITND: STOp SIGN
TRAFFIC VOLUMES
EB IIB
13
40
163
NB SB
LEFI
THRU
RIGHT
30
L7
8
5
33
17
L26
45
10
NUHBER OF I.ANES AND IANE USAGE
EB IJB NB SB
IANES 1 1 1 1
ADJUSTMENT FACTORS Page-2
RIGHT TT'RN
ANGLE
ACCELERATION IANE
FOR RIGHT TURNS
EASTBOUND O. OO
IJESTBOI'ND O. OO
NORTHBOUND O. OO
SOUTHBOI'ND O. OO
VEHICLE CO!{POSITION
90
90
90
90
N
N
N
N
t COHBINATION
VEHICLES t UOTORCYCLES
EASTBOUND
[,ESTBOI'ND
NORTHBOUND
SOUTHBOI'ND
CRITICAL GAPS
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
TABUIAR VALUES
(Table 10-2)
ADJUSTED
VALUE
FINAL
CRITICAL GAP
H]NOR RIGHTS
MAJOR LEFTS
HINOR THROUGHS
EB
IJB
!{]NOR LEMS
EB
I.IB
5.50
5.50
SB
NB
5.00
5.00
EB
I.IB
6.00
5 .00
5.50
5.50
6.50
6.50
0 .00
0.00
5.50
5.50
6 .00
5 .00
5.50
5.50
5.00
5.00
0.00
0.00
5 .00
5.00
0 .00
0.00
5.00
5.00
6.50
6.50
00
00
0
0
IDENTI FYING INFOR},IATION
NAIIE 0E THE EAST^IEST STREET...... I-AKE DRM
NAME OF THE NORTH/SOUTH STREET.. .. DAKOTA AVENUE
DATE AND TIHE OF THE AIIALYSIS..... 12-13'1990 ; PH PEAK HolrR 1992
OTHER INFOR},IATION. . . . BASELINE + STATION
PERCENT
GRADE
cuRB RADIUS ( ft)
::i.i::::.1T.
20
20
20
20
I SU TRUCKS
AND RV'S
SIGHT DIST.
:::::::i:.
CAPACITY AND LEVEL.OF. SERVICE Page - 3
I
HOVEMENT
I{INOR STREET
EB LEFT
THROUGH
RIGHT
I.IINOR STREET
WB LEFI
THROUGH
RIGHT
}IAJOR STREET
SB LEF-T
NB LEFT
POTEN.
FI'I{. TIALRATE CAPACIT':T
v(pcph) c (pcph)
P
ACTUAL
MOVEUENT
CAPACITY
e (pcph)
l{
SHARED
CAPACIT'Y
(pcph)
SH
RESERVE
CA?ACITY
c-c -v LOSRSH
c
37
2L
10
15
49
199
154
6
505
747
997
652
750
998
1000
1000
373
657
997
>373>> 482 657 > 4L5>997>
335
647
987
B
A
A
>A
569
670
998
1000
1000
1000
1000
> 878 670 >
A
A
A
A
A
553 >614 6Zt >a
798 >
845
994
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION
NAuE oF rHE EAsr^Esr d;;;::::::'il;'il;;---
NAI.IE OF THE.NORTH/SOUTH STREET.... DAI(OTA AVENUE
DATE AND TIUE OF THE ANALYSIS..... 12-13-1990 ; p}{ PEAK HOIrR 1992OTHER INFORHATION.... BASELINE + STATION
1985 HCH: I'NSIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS*************************
IDENTIFYING INFORMATION
Page - I
AVERAGE RI'NNINC SPEED, }IA"'OR STREET.. 30
PEAI( HOI'R TACTOR. .9
AREA POPI'IATION. . . . . 5OOOO
NA}iE OF THE EASTSEST STREET, IAKE DRM
NAI(E OF THE NORTIi,/SOIMI STREET.. . .... DN@TA AVE}ruE
NAHE OF THE ANALYST. .......... DB
DATE oF IHE AI{ALYSIS (w/dd/yy)...... 12-13-1990
TIUE PERIOD ANALYZED. .. NOON HOUR
OTHER INFORI{AIION.... BASELINE + STATION
INTERSECTION TYPE AI{D CONIROL
INTERSECTION TYPE: 4.LEG
l{l,JoR STREET DIRTCrION: NoRTH/SoUIH
CoNTRoL rYPE EASTBoITND: STOP SIGN
CONTROL TYPE I{ESTBOI,ND: STOP SIGN
27
84
314
235
95
2t
EB IIB NB SB
63 11
69
35
36
L7
1IANES11
TRATFIC VOLWES.
LETT
THRU
RIGHT
NI'}IBER OF IANES AND IA}IE USAGE
EB IJB NB SB
1
ADJUSTMENT FACTORS Page-2
PERCENT
GBADE
RIGHT TI'RN
AI.IGI.E
ct RB RADIUS ( fE)
FOR RIGHI I'T'RNS
EASTBoIJND 0.00 90 20 N
WESTBOITND 0.00 90 20 N
NORInBOITND O.OO 90 20 N
sourHSolrND 0.00 90 20 N
VEHICLE COUPOSITION
t SU TRUCKS I COIEINATION
AND RV'S VEHICLES r UOTORCYCLES
EASTBOI'ND
IJESTEOT'ND
NORTHBOIJND
SOUTHBOI'ND
CRITICAL GAPS
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
TASUIAR VALUES
(Table 10-2)
A.DJUSTED
VATUE
SIGHT DIS?.
A['USTITENT
FINAL
CRITICAL GAP
HINOR RICHTS
UE JOR LEFTS
SB
NB
}IINOR THROUGHS
EB
IJ8
T{INOR LEFTS
EB 5.50
6.50
5.50
5. 50
00
00
00
00
5.50
5. 50
0.00
0.00
5.50
5.50
0
0
0
0
0
0
5 .00
5 .00
IJB
5
5
6
5
5
5
5
6
6
6
00
00
6
6
00
00
00
00
00
00
00
00
00
00
50
50WB
6. 50
6.50
ACCELERATION IANE
FOR RIGHT TURNS
0
0
0
0
EB
IDENTIFAING INTOR}IATION
NAUE OP THE EASTAEST STREET...... IAKE DRIVE
NAHE OP THE NORTH,/SOUIH STREET.... DAKOTA AVENUE
DATE AND TIr.tE OF THE ANALYSIS..... 12-13-1990 ; NOON HOIrR
OTHER INFORHATION.... BASELINE + STATION
CAPACITY AND LEVEL.OF. SERVICE Page - 3
OVE}{ENT
POTEN.Flrolr- TIALRATE CAPACIIY
v(pcph) c (pcph)
P
ACTIJAL
t{ovE}{ENT
CAPACITY
c (pcph)
u
SHARED
CAPACIlA
c (pcph)
SH
RESERVE
CA?ACITY
c-c . v l,OS
RSH
UINOR STREET
EB LETT
TIIROUGH
RIGHT
I{INOR STREET
},IAJOR STREET
IDENTI FYING INFORMATION
77
44
2L
11s
42L
977
>115>> L79 42L >>977>
38> Et7 377 >E B
955 > A
296 > c
195 323 >D B
611 > A
709
982
!,8 LEFT
THROUGH
RIGHT
33
103
384
453
550
995
329
426
995
>329>> 7L3 425 >>995>
SB LEFT
NB LEFT
288
13
998
996
998
995
998
996
A
A
NA}{E OF THE EASTNEST STREET...... IAKE DRIVE
NA},IE OF THE NORTH/SOUTH STREET.... DAI(OTA AVENUE
DATE AND TII{E OF THE ANALYSIS..... 12-13-1990 ; NOoN HolrR
OTHER INFORMATION.... BASELINE + STATION
250
544
977
SUPPLEIIENIAI. TRIP GENERAIION
atrd
IRAFFIC TI{ALYSIS
I'EHICLE INSPEEIION STAIION
Lake Drive at Dakota Avenue
Chanhassen, Minnesota
Prepared for
Systees Control, Inc.
llestrrood Professional Services, Inc.
Dece8ber 27, 1990
by
SUMHTRY
Thj.s nenorandut0 serves as a suppleaent to the Decenbe! 19, 1990, report
prepared by David Braslau Associates, Inc., on the traffic, air guatity and
noj.se quality inpacts of the vehicle enission testing 6tatj,on proposed to be
]ocated on take Drive j,n Chanhassen, Uinnesota. .This &enoranduo sunnarizes
the trip generation characteristics of the site and co8pares those to thecharacteristics of othe! auto-oriented uses. Thls leEoranduo also reports the
resuLts of an on-site traffj.c courrt conducted at the existj.ng McDonald'a
restaurant at Lake Drive and Dakota Avenue. (At the Deceober 13, 1990, pubLic
neeting on the testing station, a guestion rras raised regardlng the tsipgeneration characteristics of this sp€cific restaurant. In response, a count
was conducted at the !,cDonald's froo ll:30 a.E. to 1:00 p.D. and froo rl:30
p.r0. to 5:00 p.D. on wednesday, Dece&be! 19, 1990.) fhis Denorarldun concludeswith an analysis of the on-sj.te operations and gueueing accoonodations.
All data and graphics contaj.ned in this nenorandut, with the excepti.on of the
McDonald's count data, are the sane as presented at the DeceEber 13, 1990,
neighborhood publ.ic neeting held at Chanhassen City Halt. Apploxinately 12
resj.dents attended that neeting.
TRIP GENERATION ANALYSIS/COMPARISON
Three charts (Figules 3, 4 and 5) are presented to sunaarize the trip
generation characterj.st ics of the ploposed vehiele emission testlng station
and olher auto-oriented laad uses. ?he terEs used on the charts are listed on
Figrure 2. All of the nunbers shown on the charts represent vehicl.e trips.
For exanple, if ten vehicles arrive at the testinE station for lnspections and
then leave the station afterwards, this represents 20 vehicle trips. The
average day is the typical day of the nonth at the station, t heleas the peak
day represents the last five uorking days of the Donth when there is a sulgein the volune of inspections prio! to end-of -the-Donth expirations. The final
terrns on FigNle 2 lelate to trro different peak hours. lhe peak hour of the
testing station site occurs in the late norning, whereas the peak hour of the
surrounding najor roadway system, including TH 5, occuls at apploxinately il:30
P.n. to 5:30 p,n.
Figure 3 sumrnarizes daily trip generation volunes for a nunber of uses, As
noted at the Decenber 13, 1990, public Deeting, the voluraes shown for the gas
stalion/minl -rnarket, fast food restaurant and drive-in bank represent typical
average rates and counts observed thloughout the United States. Ihe soulcefor these data is the Dost recent edition of the Trip Genelation Report,
published by the Institute of Transportation Engineers.
The Blaslau Associates traffic analyses found that the traffic generated bylhe vehicle testing site would cause no adverse iDpacts to the sulrounding
roadway systen. FurtherEore, there wil,l be no perceptable change in the
roadway levels of service in the surrounding area due to this site
developnent. The traffic analyses conducted by Sraslau Associates, as well asthe air and noise guality analyses, used the traffic data presented in this
nenorandu.o as inpu! eleoents. The detailed Braslau traffic analyses are not
lepeated in this nenorandua; the reader is referred instead to the original
Braslau report.
Two traffic volunes are shown for the testing station on Figule 3, the typj.ca]
average day of the nonth and the end of the lionth peak volu.ne. systens
Control's records fron thei.r facilities in other stales show that these lastfive days tend to be about 150t to 160t of the typical day with an actual
average peak of 155t. The ,56t factor is reflected in this analysis. The
volurnes showa are for 1998, the linal year of the seven-year testing contractthat Systems Control has rrith the State of innesota. That year repesents thehighest expected vehicle registratj.ons, and therefore inspections, dusing thecontract period. The overall voluoe level at the Charhassen site nas
deternined fron the Metropolitan-wide systen uodeling of denand. This
nodeling resulted j.n a systen of 11 testing stations. (The aodeling ras based
on projected 1998 population and vehicle registration patterns and doesj.nclude the growth occuling in the western subulban area.)
Figrures { and 5 both depict hourly voluoe levels. Fj.gure 4 sunnarizes trro
time periods for the testing station Eite. One ls the roadway systeE p.n.
peak hour (4:30 to 5:30), the other is the station site peak hour
(approxi,nately 11:00 a.n. to 12:00 noon). For both periods, data are shownfor the average day of the Donth and the end of the Eonth peak days. The
results of the count conducted at the existing McDonaldrE lestaurant at Lake
Drive and Dakota Avenue is also shown on Pigrure 4. In sunnary, the tlcDonald's
reslaurant presenlly generales 300 vehicle trips during a one-hour period at
lunchtine on a typical rreekday. The proposed testing station is expected to
generate 176 trips in a one-hour period during the five busiest days of the
nonth i.n 1998. Furtherroore, Figure { shorrs that when the overall, !oad},ay
systen is at its peak volune levels ({:30 p.n. to 5:30 p.u.), the testing siteis not at its peak level.
Figure 5 is another conparison of hourly volunes, this one for the p.n. peak
hour, {:30 p.n. to 5:30 p.n. The p.ro. peak hou! projections for the gas
station/nini -nalket, restaurant and drive-in bank (left-nost three colrrnns )represent typical national averages. The count conducted at the existing
McDonald's shows that in the p.n. peak hour this site presently generates
about one-half the average nati.onal traffic voh.ne for a fast food restaulant
(184 expected trips versus 97 counted). Comparison to Fi,grure { shor{s that 'both the existing ucDonald's restaurant and the testing station have their
peak traffic vo}unes in the Did-day tine period, not during the p.E. peak hourof the alea roadway systen.
ROADWAY SYSTEM/TRAFFIC ASSIGNMEM
I{estwood Professional Services, Inc., received roadway design plans froD the
Minnesota Departnent of Tlansportation for the segnent of TH 5 in the vlcinj.tyof the testing station. The curlent tinetable calls for TH 5 in this area to
be fu11y upgraded to a four-lane divided facility in the next year. The sitewill be principally served by two sigoalized, najor intersections on TB 5.
one of these intersections is the rebuilt Dahota Avenue intersection shohrn on
Figure 5. The second aajor access point for the site is vj.a the new DeIl
Road/l84th Avenue intersection on tH 5, shonn on Figure ?. These roadrray
sketches were shown at the Decenber 13, 1990, publlc tseetl.ng and rere lade
available to Davj.d Braslau Associates, Inc., for their roadway assigrneent and
analyses calculatj.ons. lor the detailed calculations, the reader is referred
to the Braslau report. In sunnary, that report found that the vehicle testing
ON.SITE OPERATTONS
The najor eleaent in the analysj.s of on-site operatlons is the provision forvehicles to properly queue on the property duling tiDes of heaviest usage atthe end of the Donth. Ehe proposed site layout has over 875 lane-feet ofstorage. At a conservatlve value of 25 fee! per atored vehicle, 875 feet uil,l
accomraodate 35 vehicles on the slte itself. The results of a queueing
analysis indicate that during the busiest days at the end of ttre aonlh, thereis a 1t chance that 23 or uore vehicles rrould queue up dusing the peak instan!within the peak hour. I{ith 35 vehicle spaces of storage avai,lable it is velyunlikely that a gueue woufd ever extend of! the site. (The gueueing
conputations ale susnarized on a calculation Eheet which follows the figruresat the back of t'his oenorandum. )
station would cause no noticeable irlpact to the traffic levels of service on
the public roadway systen surrounding the site.
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November 5, 1990
Mr. Paul KraussCity PlannerCity of Chanhassen
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 5 5317
RE: Systems Control's clean Air Facility
And Drainage Easement
Dear Paul:
walter H. Rockenstein II
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Enclosurescc: Dennis Pa Imer
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Enclosed please f intl a copy of the Declaration Of
surface Drainage Easement which affects the property being
purchased by Systems Control, Inc. You will note in Paragraph
2 that this easement is to continue until the City of
chanhassen aletermines that the surface water drainage easementis no longer neetleil. Since litcDonalds has reconfigured its
parking Iot subsequent to the granting of this easement, could
you have the City Engineer determine whether this easement isstill requireil? If it is not, Systems Control will request acity Ceterrni.nation of "no neeC' as part of the approval process
for its clean air facility on this property.
Sincerely yours ,
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COHI.IISSION
REGULAR ].1EETING
DECEMBER 12, I99O
The PIanning Commission held intervieu,s for Planning Commission candidaLesprior to the regular Planning Commission meeting.
Chairman Conrad calIed the meeting to order at 8:45 p-m..
COHHISSION HEHBERS PRESENT :
Annette EIIson, Brian 8atzli
EOHMISSION }IEHBERS ABSENT:
STAFF PRESENT: PauI Krauss,
Planner
Ladd Conrad, Tim Erhart, Steve Emmings,
and Joan Ahrens
Jim Wi ldermuth
Planning Director and Jo Ann Olsen, Senior
PUBLIC HEARING:
ZONI NG ORD INANCE NDI.IENT TO AI.iEND SECTION 20-29( d).CONCERNING APPEALS
FROH DECISIONS OF THE BOARD OF ADJUSTHENTS ON VARIANCES .
PauL Krauss presented the staff r epor t
dourn side of
would want to
probably?
item.
down to 4? tlhat's the
on this
the 1O
ma ke?
Conrad:
negative
Conrad:can't do
E!.Ison: For the appl icant
TeII us about thefor somebody r.rho
Yeah, for the
in 4 days?
applicant. In 10 days what could they do that they
Krauss: There is no down side for the applicant. It's an upside for theapplicant. The applicant does not, currently when ue have a variance, it's
approved by the Board'of Adjustment. l.,e u,rite them a Ietter saying thatyour variance was approved on Monday nisht, it's not good until 2 weeks
have passed and if anybody at any time gives us a letter of concernrequesting that it be heard, then we have Lo schedule it for the nexL
Council meeti ng ,
Conrad: That anybody would be, people that disagreed so bre're going togive them 4 days to make an appeal?
Krauss: Right. And most of
they were there Lhe evening
the time you get it the next morning becausethe variance uras approved.
something within the 10 day period?Batz]i: Is it published or
Krauss: No. No, no. But variances are published beforethe Board and we do send out mail notice.
they're heard by
Batzli: Okay, but after Lhe Board of Adjustments and Appeals makes theirdecision, nothing happens Iike publ.ication or something to give people anadditional time period to see that and come in and be able.
El Ison: l,Jhat percent do get appealed?
PIanning
December
Commission72, 1990 -
HeeLi ng
Page 2
Ellson: Doesn't that have to be done by the appl icant?
by the decision.No.
tJhy
He
He
t^lhe n
Conrad:
dohrn to 4
Krauss:
Ahrens:
EI Ison:
Kr auss :
OIsen:
Kr auss :
Conrad:
It's anybody aggr ieved
did he do that?
didn't agree urith it.
often disagreed.
they approved he would disagree.
Krauss: Now keep in mind that the Board of Adjustments can only approvethings unanimously so it made it tough. tJe had people who had to sit inthe audience from 6:00 p.m. to 11:3O just to hear BilI's issue and usuallythere uras nobody aggrieved by the decision. Now if Lhere are people LhaLare legitimately concerned and sure, BiIl was legitimately concerned-itjusL circumvented the procedure.
Conrad: l.,,hat does it take to register an appeal?
Krauss: AII you have to do is tell us. tle prefer to get a note in writingsaying I wish to appeal. a decision.
So the process is relatively simple? So. The person still has a simple process
Yes .
Okay.
we 'reto 90
going from 10 days
by?
Krauss: Risht.
decision .
In that case the applicanL states I wish to appeal the
Emmings: Alright, Now if I don't appeal . If I'm turned down and I don'Lappeal, I could always come back and ask for it again. Alrisht, whaLeverbut I get another shot. Now if I'm a neighbor and I don't like thegranting of a variance and I uant to appeal that to the City Council andI blow the 4 day time limit, that's it forever. I can never come back
r ight?
Emmings: 4
r ights are ,
days isI might
real
wa nt
fast.to go
If I'm a neighbor and I wonder u,hat mytalk to my attorney. Haybe I'm not around.
Krauss: Not very many actually. There hras a problem where Councilman Boyt_appealed virtually every one of them to the City Council so it got veryclunky. I mean it sort of circumvented frankly the Board of Adjustment.
The Board of Adjustments is the final court if you will on these things. Ifthey approve it or deny it and the only way it goes to the City Council is -if there's an appeal .
Emmings: Can I ask, number one. If I'm the applicant and I'm turned downby the Board of Adjustments and I blant to appeal Lo the City Council.
Krauss: That's true.
Planning
December
CommissionL2, 7990 -
Meeti ng
Page 3
in the new one is
I reading the old
Four days is real fast to lose what could be a very, something, a very
valuable right. I guess my thought when I read this, and mavbe this isjust too cumbersome, would be to have, well it probablv tlouldn't work
because you've got 2 classes of PeoPle. I was wondering if there could be
an expedited procedure where if you get your aPpeal in within 4 days, you
get rewarded by setting heard early by the city Council and if you don't,
then it just takes longer because 4 days scared me. It sounds real fast.
Maybe that's, I don'! know. The other thing f wanted to ask about the
ordinance as I read it is, it says appeals to the board and I didn't
understand what gets appealed !o the board.
Krauss: It aII gets appealed to the City Council.
Emmings: Yeah. So if you look at (d), the last sentence in (d). It says
the procedure governing appeals to the board shall also govern apPeals to
the City Council. tlhat the hell does that mean?
BalzIi:
Emm i ngs :
BatzLi:
Emm i ngs :
It's not
Oh, am
Yeah.
oh, r 'm
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one?
sorry, !.lhere is the new one? I missed it then.
BatzI i : Last Page .
okay.Emmings: Oh,
problem.
tlell that takes care of that concern but the same
Emmings: I don't have any Problem with the 4 days for the aPPlicant, or
even for the City Council member. I guess I tlorry a IiLtIe about Lhe 4
days for the people who are neighbors and I guess I'd also, there's more
language in here talking about aPPeals to Lhe Board. Let's see. It says
upon the filing of an appeal or an application for the variance. This is
in (b). The zoning administrator sets a time and Place for a hearing
before the Board of Adjustments on the appeal . It iust should be on the
application. That idea kind of runs through here. I saw it a few Places
and that probably ought to be cleaned uP.
Olsen: ...I think u,hat was done with that
for a variance to the zoning ordinance and
of the ordi nance.
Emmings: To the
that there's an appl ication
appea] to the i nterpretationis
an
Olsen: No . An
City Counci I?
appeal to the interpretation of the ordinance.
Board of . . .Batz]i: To the
Batzli: They have changed it to go from any Person who is aggrieved by the
decision of the Board and they eliminated that. They've limited il now to
you have to be a City council member, the applicant, or own ProPerty ulithin
5oo feet. So Lhey've limited who can aPPeal.
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Planning
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Olsen: Yeah, they're appea).in9 staff's interpretation of the ordinance.
Emm i ngs :
Alright,
Oh, so there
that 's r.,hat I
are
uJas
things then that are appealed to the Board?asking. I didn't know what it would be.
sentence PauI?govern appeals
Batzli: Are we Iosing anyLhing by eliminating thatprocedure governing appeals to the Board shall alsoCity Counc i l?
Theto the
Krauss: I honestly don't know.
Batzli: And why did we change itof the Board to limit it Lo only
feeL?
any person aggrieved by the decision-people owning property within 5OO
fr om
t hose
olsen:
Krauss:
Erhart:
Conrad:
Erhart:
believe
BatzIi: HeII I think you
do it. I don't mind that
then I liked the new.
danted to clarify that a City Council member canpart in there. I liked the old language better
tJas that changed? It still says any person aggrieved including.
No, the new one doesn't.
That changes it substantial ly.
Yeah, substantially. Unless there's a reason to do that.
The original urriting was very confusing because it made you
that the...as you have it now certainly would not be...
Krauss: Yeah, I guess you know frankly I don't know why Roger deleted theperson aggrieved by the decision. I don't see any reason why we shouldpreclude anybody r.,ho's got an interest in an action from mentioning that
and appealing it regardless of whether they're Iiving within 5OO feet ornot. You might Nan! to consider putting back in that aggrieved language.
Erhart: If you're going to do that, then you might as weII eliminate theCity Council or anybody within 5OO feet to say any aggrieved person period.
Krauss: You knoh, I think too you need something to clarify. I mean Idon't know hou this would happen but it's not inconceiveable that if uejust say anybody could do it at any time, then u,e'll just have somebodyuho's trying to be disruptive or delay a decision. There should be somekind of a standard. I mean I Like the aggrieved language because it saysthat you have to have some credibility. You have to have an issue.
Emmings: Some kind of interest that's being stepped on.
Erhart: Yeah , but don't hor., 5OO f eet has to do with anythi n9 .
Emmi ngs: Is that
Krauss: That's
Emmings: So it
I
who you
Hho gets the
kind of ma kes
notice to on a variance?
notices,yes .
that regard I guess.
see
give
sense rn
Batzl i: So somebody within
Conrad: f 'm not comfortable
5o2 feet can'
uith the 5OO
It could be someone
this exact same thi ng
then .
a simi lar situation who
this person so they wan! to
EIIson: Yeah, but maybe if you guys denied and now you're seeing someone
with a simi Iar situation...
E.L Ison: Me
wants to go
make sure.
either.
through
tdoit
feet .
who hasafter
Erhart: A typical case would be we give a variance to something downtown
on a sign or somelhing like that...as a Planning commission member ule
developed the sign ordinance and I'd be rea] uPset about it and I Iive 5
miles away .
Emmings: We talked about posting property. Do we post Property? [.le
talked about doing iL and I can't remember.
Krauss: tle approved it and I'm just on the verge of ordering the signs.
I 've got an order . . . nor^, .
conrad: Makes sense to me.
table.move ure
second .
Erhart: I'Il
Ellson: I'II
Erhart moved, Ellson seconded to table on the Zoning ordinance Amendment to
amend Section 20-29(d) for further staff clarification. AII voted in favor
and the motion carried unanimously-
Emmings: I thinkit.
4 days is too fast. I'm probably going to vote against
Ahrens: I would think that if somebody bJas that concerned about aparticular issue, since the result of the decision isn't going to be
published anyway, that they would be right on toP of it and ready to aPPeal
if the decision didn't go their uray.
Emmings: Unless they Nent skiing. That's real fast.
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Conrad: Okay, what are we going to do? Do we know the words we want or do
Ne want to send it back to Roger for betLer wording?
Batzli: I'd like to table it so that staff can look at t^thy the Language
uras changed and to come back with a recommendation. I think so far the
consensus has been that Ne need broader Ianguage in there on the aggrieved
pe'rsons and I guess we don't know ulhy the last sentence Has or wasn't taken
out -
Ahrens: Yeah, but they'd realize that if that issue was of such a concern
to them they wou.Ld find out what the decision was.
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Krauss: People have about a week and a half 's notice before it's ever
heard by the board.
Batz]i: That assumes they
after the fact. If you're
in advance.
Krauss: But a lot of timessaid I live 3/4 a mile awaycan't act?
noLice. Sometimes you hear aboutwithin 5OO feet, you may not knout
9et
not
thi ngs
about it
Ahrens: There wouldn't be a natural inquiry anyway.
you're asked to
and nobody ever
act on things where somebodytold me and does that say you
Emmi ngis: No .
O]sen: It's never happened.
It's never happened. I mean
at the meeti ng.
I guess that's why we went wi.th the
anyone uho is aggrieved or whaLever,
4is days .
always
Emmi ngs: I think posting
happen. I think that's a
else -
the property wi).I help assure that that doesn'tbetter way of getting the people then anything
Krauss:
post i ng
cUP 's .
t^JeII I Lhink the ordinance that was approved thoughfor variances. It was for site plans, subdivisions,
didn't require
r ezo ni ngs ,
Olsen: He could, . .
Krauss:
Emm i ngs ;
Kr auss :
BatzI i :
changes.
Conrad:
Do we have to do this anymore?
No.
Should I deLete this from the
I think it should be raised in
t^,e just don 't have to vote on
Any changes? I forgot to see
agenda?
case somebody wants to makeir.
Krauss: l^le could but it adds to the, you know variances are kind of a
and pop thing. I mean we're talking about residents that ask for thesethings that go before Lhe Board. You deal r^rith much more invo.Lvedvariances than the Board of Adjustments. There's going to be a fee forof our signs and a damage deposit and they're going to have to installthemselves. Developers are quick to do that. I'm not so certain Lhat
i ndividual homeowner necessarily is.
mom
use
t hem
an
Emmings: I had to do lhat on my lot when I Iived in Minneapolis. I had toapply for a variance and had to post my lot and they had all kinds of fussy-requirements and stuff and the signs blew down on a couple of days, and Idon't knor.r. It doesn't always work real weII I don't think.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
when the meeting closed. 8:55?
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Batzli: tlell, we interviewed PeoPle after.
Conrad: 0h, okay.
Emmings: TaIk about feeling threatened.
conrad: Protective? Anything? okay, Minutes (November 28,
of the Planning Commission) stand as accePted.
CTTY COI'NCIL UPDATE:
199O Mi nutes
Really we
In
Kr auss : l.redid not have
fact, did we
OLsen: tle l l
Krauss: The
have a budget for next year. You'II have a tax cut.
a Iot on that last agenda and it was Monday night.
have any planni ng?
HcGIynn got expansion.
extension for their grading permit,
Emmings: t^le'lI have a tax cut?
Krauss: tle1Iyour taxes go
LT hAT L: I NIS
no.
up is
The
a
City is cutting taxes for the City. tlhether or not
completely other matter.
Kr auss :inflation tleIIin
is spending per individuals. . .
t^rhat happened is the rate of grorath exceeded the rate ofthe City budget but a significant margin.
Erhart: t^lhat things...
Krauss: t^lel1, I had put together a budget memo. Originally aII the
departments heads did and asked for some kind of projects that had been
brewing in Lhe background, one was to retain some expertise to work with
us on a sign ordinance. AnoLher was forestry intern tso finish up.
Emmi ngs: Happi ng?
Krauss: Yeah. I forget what the other one was but the budget was a very
Iean budget and Iike a lot of optional things, those feII by the board.
Nor., one of the things that's not strictly speaking a budget item but is
really going to be kicking inLo high gear this coming year is the surface
water uLility. The uater bi}l.s going out in January hopefully should have
that fee on there, I think that amounts to !E3.OO and 20 some odd cents per
house for 3 months, And with the revenues that's generating, I'm in theprocess of putting together a request for proposals for consultants to uork
with us on a combined proposal probabLy but a wetlands ordinance and
mapping update program. [4aEer qualiLx plan and a surface storm u,ater
management p).an. I thi.nk certainly there's going to be a very high level
of interest and we're going to set up a process uhere you'lI be involved in
that in the wetland aspects. The rest of it relates to it so you'I1 be
filled in on aII that.
conrad: That triggers a thought that we should be doing in January Paul isjust sort of, one of our meetings early in the year.
Krauss: Goal set i ng?
Conrad: Yeah, And the process should be, I guess I'd ]ike to set them,submit them to CiLy Council. Get their feedback on what gets added to ordeleted from and Lheir priorities so we give them something to react !o.Last year, weII I'm not sure how we did it last year.
Krauss: I guess fortunately we have the Iist of ongoing priorities here
and that gives me some guidance because I have to do my goals to the
Council now, before I get a raise f think.
Emmings: Like a lot of optional things.
Conrad: Okay. Ongoing items. l.lhat does that mean? fs that our status
rePort?
Krauss: Oh yeah there was something I wanted to mention on there. I meanyou asked us to geL working on some of those items and I Lhink clearly
we've given a shot at it, You know we didn't have too much time since the
Comp PIan to really get into it. Do you have it in your packet?
Emminss: Yeah, it's Lhe last item.
Krauss: The Iast one? There was an item and I don't know if you b,altt to
add it to your Iist or noL, I rea]Iy don't. I got a caII from Dave
PeLerson over in the newspaper and he uas reading about in Ramsey and a
couple of the cities up to the north where there was an adult material shopthat opened up next to a daycare center and everybody was picketing andthere's attempts !o model ordinances that wiII regulate that and Dave'squestion to me was does Chanhassen regulaLe this sort of thing? And my
answer was, no we don't and I called Roger to find out if you know, thisaII goes back to the First Amendment issues. Has there been any change or -substantial change in Supreme Court rulings that basically say this is
somelhing thaL you might not like but you can't do very much about. He
told me that there really isn't. However, a lot of communities are passing-
ordinances that you can't ban these things. Hhat you can do is focus them
and you can prohibit them from locating within 5OO feet of a school or froma daycare center or urhatever else but there has to be a place Lhat they are-
allowed in the city. So it raises the question, do you want to get
involved with this at aII or do you want, if ule're going to deal trith it,you're going to have to basically say it is allowed somepJ.ace else and notjust it's not allowed here.
Emmi ngs: l.Jhere would it be a] Iowed nor^r?
Krauss: In any commercial district.
Conrad: Do we want to be involved?
Emmings: My opinion is no.
Ellson: I don't think it's worth it either.
Emm i ngs :
going to
I'm
shop
fundamentally opposed to thatthere or those shops wouldn't
regulation. Peop I e
and you know , that'skind of
be open
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the way you exercise your vote on this kind of a thing, as far as I'm
concer ned .
Conradr I don't think we're a prime community for that so I'm not too
nervous.
Ellson: tJe've got a lot bigger issues lhat we should be working on.
Krauss; I just thought
of
I'd brins it
s valid.
uP.
Conr ad :
say hey,
Er hart:
time to
Krauss: t^lelI you
can't be here, i!place eIse,
You should - That'
if somebody comes IN and we
Obviously somebody could critique and
haven't reviewed it.
If somebody does come
react at that time?
in with an application would ure stilI have
Krauss: NelI no you don'L and that's tahat they're doing up there or trying
to do. They're tryi.ng to do an after the fact ordinance that prohibits
them in that specific spol . These things are difficult. I mean if you
develop an ordinance I can guarantee you, you can't close aII the
Ioopholes. You're going to have to have a place where these things aregoing to Iocate, Then if you develop an ordinance and this thing locatesin a permitted spoL,'then you have egg on your face for having looked at iLor you weren't able to prevent it. I think it's kind of a no win situationbut unless there are some fundamental changes in law where you have anability to define Lhese lhings and define the situaLions they can locaLe ina little better, it doesn't appear and Roger confirmed that there's a wholeIot that you can do.
conrad: I can't imagine us coming up r.lith a location for.
sorL of come up with a Location the
can't be there and it can't be here
bac k r.ray .
so it can
You say it
be every
Krauss: UeIl you can, you know Minneapolis has a 5Oo foot I think iL isrestriction from residential. You can prohibit, you know set a distance
from a church. You do that on your liquor licenses. You can do that with
this. But what happens if you do that and say somebody locates an adultmaterial shop in the Frontier Center. You've got a church upstairs there.I don't know. It's not something thaL I relish having to work with.
Krauss: There was also a question, when the video shop moved in down thestreet here. They cont.acted me and I believe Jim Chaffee at the time to
ask what the City, does the City regulate adult vi.deos and what is theregulations for that?
Emmings: They've got it out on TH 7 and TH 41 at Video Update,
Batz]i: So basically you could limit it to your central business district
or somethi ng?
Emmings: They should be allowed anywhere underground and not be given asign. Then I'm comfortable,
Krauss: Oo they?
Emmings: Now, how
what r^re had
k nour that?
tleIl,
doI
told this
I heard a
felIow.
r umor -
Krauss: tlell lhis guy called. Ihis guy contacted us and what I told himand r^rhat Jim told him is no we don't have regulations to do it but I wouldcounsel strongly against you doing it. That this is not the kind of
community that takes kindly to it and r^riIl probably have repercussions and -I think he took it to heart. I don't know if that persuaded him but Idon't believe this one has adulL video.
BatzIi: This ts the one by MGH?
righL overKrauss: No, this one here by. . .
Conrad: Any interest in persuing this? Is there anyNe're not going to persue it. Anything else you want
ongoing issue?
interest? Okay,to talk about in the
Krauss: You can pul this in ongoing possibly. I handed ou! tonighL a
calendar for next year. There was a couple of issues that you needed todecide. I think Vicky trrote notes on here. There's only one meeling
scheduled in July and one in November because of hou Lhe holidays faII ouL,
Now last year we skipped a JuIy meeting. Of course we had a number of
oLher special meetings for the Comp PIan that kind of bracketed that but w*
skipped the JuIy 4th meeting. t^Je also skipped the Thanksgiving meeting but
Vicky points out that Lhe Council only meets once in December on the 9th
and if you have your regu).ar meeting on December 4th, whatever's heard then
doesn't get heard until the following year. Is that a big deal? If it is,-
what you can do is you can move up your meeting time to November 27th.
Emmings: ThaL gives us 3 meetings in November?
I u:as lookingthis year.
Conrad: That's also not necessarily fair to staff either in putting 3
meetings in November. I guess f'm not too concerned about the out of sync -
To te]l you the truth I'd prefer, if we have issues, I'd prefer Lo havestaff have enough time to deal uith them versus our ability to process them
Lo City Counci I .
Ahrensr There'd be 2 November meetings wouldn't there?
tle skipped the first.Krauss:
Ahrens:
Emm i ngs :
Kr auss :
Emm i ngs :
mista ke
tlel I that's the Lhing.
November 5th.
Oh no, you 're
We skipped the
r i sht .
Thanksgiving meeti n9.
at City Council. You're right. That's my first
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Krauss: Yeah. It's very hard to knou what kind of a work load we're going
to face this coming year. Maybe you want to play it by ear
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Batzli: tle haven't started 1991 yet.
Emmi ngs: How'd you know?
Conrad: I'm still not too concerned.
Krauss: ff we leave it with December 4th, if we've really got a slug of
work to do, we can move it.
El]son: Right. [.Je can discuss it in october .
Batzli: I don't think ue're going to have a slug of work next year, at
Ieast-as far as applications. Ue'Il get a ]ot of stuff done though. I say
we royally kind of. Assuming I'm here.
conrad: rt's a real humbling experience.
UPDATE ON FLOOD PLAIN ORDTNANCE.
Jo Ann Olsen gave the staff Presentation on this item.
Krauss: It's one of those curious anomalies where we need to adoPt the
Federal regs for those people who need it so they can geL flood insurance.
tle have very little in the way of a flood Problem in Chanhassen and we
don'! allour people to build in flood Plains anyway so a lot of these regs
are kind of moot really. [.,e've never used them but we're still obligated
to do it nonetheless.
Emmings: Have bre mapped our flood plain?
Krauss: The Feds have. In fact we'd like to see if there's a way we canget them to update it but Jo Ann's Iooked into iL.
Olsen: tje have to do the work. tJe're given a list, a long ]ist of the
people . , .
Emmings: Nhere is it other than the river va.lley?
olsen: IL's around Lhe lakes.
Krauss: AII the creeks. Bluff Creek has a flood plain. It goes through
the industrial par k.
Emmings: And how, I didn't read this. There was too much detail for
I got to this part of the packet. t^lhen you're talking about a Iake or
creek, how do you define the flood Plain then?
Olsen: There's a map and I should have brought one down but there's a
al I the r.lay around it .
r 1ng
uhe n
a
Emmings: And does it go to a
Krauss: Yeah- In a 1OO year
uhere does it so?
certain elevation?
event how hish is it going to bounce off and
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Olsen; So like your shoreline wouLd be...and if you werebuilding a house...you'd probably caII City Hall and sayflood plain? And we would have said well a porLion of it75 foot setback,..That's as much as we enforce it.
going
is thisis but
be
the
have a
to
in
we
O]sen: The whole ordinance, we regulate a Lot more than is here- Uhatdid was I went through what our ordinance sa),/s nour and tried to add whatdidn't have that they now require you to have. AIso the DNR has one oftheir 'staff persons to go through our ordinance and list what is neededus to add to our ordinance so that's a combination of those two is where
came up with what we have.
I
we
for
bre
BaLzIi:
c ha nges?
But
Is
the federal people won't review it until after you've made thethis something that Roger should look at?
Krauss: It might not hurt before we bring itthe ordinance. t^le can certainly do that.back to you and we publish
Batzli: I mean I don't know ifIike you've looked at it preLty
Olsenr Yeah, I've discussed it
bones as r^,e can . I don 't thi nkthat Ne uJant to add anything.
that would add anything or not. ft sounds
Lhoroughly but.
with him before. Again we've
we can cut anything else out.
gone as bareI don't know
conrad: So you're just bringing this to us fora public hear i ng.
Olsen: Just to let you know. It looked kind of
Conrad: It gets real tough to read. Any other
ElIson: I thought it was interesting.
Krauss: t^le'Il Lry to have somebody from the ONRtoo so they can answer specific guestions.
Conrad: Okay.
EDEN PRAIRIE PLAN A}IENDHENT.
our i nput
big but
comme nLs
and there will be
really.,.
on that?
here when this comes up
conrad: PauI , if you could hishlight your key concerns. Again I thinkyou're just bringing it to us for information.
Krauss: tlel] if you have anything specifically that you'd Iike to raise or-if you have a quest ion with the tenor or the content of what's in there. Idid send it but I told them thaL I was acLing kind of unilaterally in this
and I was going to bring it before you and the City Council if there werefurther comments or changes, I would tell them about it. This is the third
Comp PIan or guide plan amendment that Eden Prairie has gone throughsince I've been with the city in the IasL year and a ha]f. There's a
Batz1i: Jo Ann, are alI these changes then required? These are requiredunder the Fedearl regulations or r.lhat have you? Did you just 9o throughand do it then?
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number of concerns r have and r'I1 be honest with you and say that this
is the third drafL of this Ietter and was the one that went out. There was
a lot that I had to cut because I was really somewhat upset uith the way in
which Lhat request came across my desk. Eden Prairie, I'Il be diplomatic
abouL this buL has a somewhat Pre-emP!ive maternalistic attitude toHards
Chanhassen and Chaska and I think it's reflected in their comP PIan. Thev
basically, and lhis has been related to me by their Planning Director,
believe that we uould never. have occurred but by the grace of God and Eden
Prairie. That if Eden Prairie had constrained themselves with the MUSA
Iine, that tre would not have sufficient development that wanted to be out
this far. I've always disputed that Point of view and tle've tried to deal
r^iith Eden Prairie in a fair manner. tle've aluays said we don't oPPose your
HUSA line amendment but we want a level playing field and we L,ant you to
knour that we have some concerns. In this case our concerns focus on some
of the rationale lhat Eden Prairie's using to justify this Comp Plan
amendment, Eden Prairie's basically saying that the Metro Council regional
model has allocated them a number of units and jobs that they're
comfortable with, unlike us and to accommodate that they need 37o acres.
[e].1, lhis letter is in part addressed to the Metro Council which now says
urait a second. Ihis regional model is so far off that you're telling us
'and we're across the stree! from Eden Prairie that we're suPPosed !o
decrease in size over the next 10 years. Some of the rationale. The
amoun! of work lhat we've done to jusLify the Comprehensive Pl.an amendments
r^re're proposing and Lhe amount of uork that Eden Prairie's doing, it's just
noL a fair comparison, Also, Eden Prairie apPears to have gone through a
comprehensive planning process urithouL publicizing it. Eden Prairie has
one comprehensive plan that the Metro Council uses and then they have
another one Lhat Lhey apparently use and we've never been given an
opportunity to rev.iew it, That was what I was raising some issues with.
There were some very Iarge storm drainage outf lot^ls going directly inLo Lake
Riley. tlell we're coming up with a multi-million do]Iar plan to clean upour water. tle don't need Eden Prairie's water sloshing down in there
unLess it's of the same quality. I think those are things that can be
worked out you know if it's done in an above board manner and I'm asking
the l{etro Council and Eden Prairie to do that, t,e have tlhat ue believe to
be better traffic information than Eden Prairie has and we're asking that
that be considered. As in the past f continue to make sure that the Metro
Council knows that we are coming in with a guide plan amendment. ThaL
Chanhassen is noL more... That we are growing and Lhat we have grown and
that we need access to the sanitary sewer, That Eden Prairie should not be
allowed to pre-empt us. They should be allowed to have their fair share
but they should not be allowed to take ours. So basically there's an
amalgam of issues that I wanted to articulate. Give to Eden Prairie. Give
to the l,letro Council and say Iet's talk about it.
conrad: In the memo, I think it makes some points. tJeII you're obviously
trying to contrast Chanhassen's degree of involvement in planning with
lheirs and lhat fact clear. In terms of your first point. Southwestern
Eden Prairie development phasing study. tlhat is your, oLher than them notgoing lhrough the righ! process, do you have a Problem? tJhat is the
problem you're expressing other Lhan the process? Is that it?
Conrad: Yeah.
Krauss: l^Jith the study?
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Krauss: There are elements of the study that I don't think gave.
EIlson: Like the traffic part.
Krauss: Like the Lraffic. Like the stormthat give Chanhassen possibly short shrift
consideration we deserve.
sewer. Like
and possibly sanitary sewer
the
the
not
conrad: But
LhaL study?
you don't have a, okay so r.rhat's your bottom line concern on
tlhat is it lettins them do?
Krauss: tle operate under the Metropolitan Land Planning Act. AIl of us
do. Everyone in the 7 county area. The 7 county area requires that you
have a comprehensive plan. It requires that you keeP it uP to date. It
requires that you give neighboring communities and other agencies an
opportunity to review and comment. Eden Prairie did that in 1980 as did we
urhen we exchanged plans. In 1988 Eden Prairie aPParently went through a
process that they believed they needed to go throush which is fine but they-
kept it close to Lhe vest and then the), sLarted regulating the citv based
on this document. I'm noL necessarily oPPosed to this document. I'm a
little uncomfortable with the way in r,rhich it Has handled and there are
issued that it raises that had we been given a chance to comment in 1988, -
we would have raised then but we're raising nou, because this is the first
shot we've had.
Conrad: And those issues deal with sewer, water and traffic?
Krauss: Yes .
Conrad: So it's a process? There's nothing belor^r the surface? You knor^, I
kept trying to figure out what you were getting at and in this addition to
this MUSA li.ne, if they can resolve some seurer issues, some drainage issues-
and traffic, you don't have a problem with what they're ProPosing?
Krauss: No. And part of this goes to the Metro Council.
level playing field, if the same consideration Lhe Hetro
Prairie is given us, I'm comfortable.
If there is
Counci I gives
a-
Ede n
conrad: okay , then I understand t^,hat
Batz]i: But part of your letter talks
Ionger being a possibility.
Krauss: Bluff Creek, yes.
you're
about
yeah. Now if that's no longer a
that they're proposing here just
trying to do.
the Red Rock Interceptor no
Batzli: oh, Bluff
the saniLary seurer
Chanhassen?
Creek,
sysLem
possibi I ity ,
end at south
has
of
Krauss: That's correct. As does the Chaska
has been my concern all along through this is
of their own and Lhey're doing a good iob of
Ieft with no ansr^,er and any answer that does
extraordinarily expensive. Because basically
wherever it starLs to here,
system on the other side which
that everybody's taking care
it and southern Chanhassen is -come at thaL time would be
the Iine is the deadhead from
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Batz I i :
review
Kr auss :
BatzIi:
If they had had to go through the Process, you know the formal
process, would we have had an oPPortunity to comment on Lhat?
Yes.
Is it clear that that intercePtor is not going to occur?
conrad: I agree hrith what
Krauss: IL's still I think on the Hetro t^laste books but everybody tells
you that it's dead. Hetro t,laste is going through a study or wants to
initiate a study as to t^,hat to do uith the Chaska sewage treatment PIanL'
The alternalives include enlarging it, which is a Problem since it's in lhe
flood plain. It gets innundated. Or eliminate iL and if thev eliminate it
they need to have a Hetro IntercePtor taking this stuff, the sewage to BIue
Lake. tle've been telling that if you do, whichever alternative you choose,
we need to be considered. Our future needs to be taken into account. The
Chaska plant is kind of unique. The Chaska plant is an old municipal plant
and it was designed to serve Chaska and Metro t^laste bought it with regional
dolIars, our dolIars. They've imProved it with our dollars. The regional
dollars and we have no access to it because aII the lines leading to the
Chaska plant are municipal Chaska lines. Now on Lhe other side of Lown,
Eden Prairie's proposing to do the same situaLion. To do the same thing.
conrad: Anything elae on that?
RURAL AREA DE VELOPMENT. 2
you're sayi ng.
1/2 ACRE I,IINIHUM LOT SI zE_
Krauss: In some of the meetings I've been a! in the ]ast few months, in
talking to l.letro Council staff, it became clear that Lhe 2 L/2 acre rural
Iot size that we adhere to is no longer required by lhe Melro Council.
They do require that ure maintain Lhe 1 per 10 acre densiLy zoning that
we've been enforcing since 1986 and I don't have a Problem ulilh that
frankly. I mean we discussed rural area development Iong enough that that
1 per 10 zoning seems to make sense for fuLure develoPment for ]ess imPact
on agricultural areas and evevything else. I was a little bit Laken back
to find out that the Metro Council^ apparently changed their policy on this
2 L/2 acye zoning at the same time they were requiring us Lo adhere to it
in the Lake Ann agreement. Be that as it may, it's kind of water over the
dam and if in fact their policv is different todav, r believe that tre have
the option of going with l acre ]ots in the rural area. I asked our city
attorney about that. It's a little bit unusual because not only do you
have to consider an amendment to zoning ordinance but we actually have to
have a contract amended between the City and the Metro Council, tlhich is
lhe Lake Ann agreemenL, I asked Roger to prepare a conlract amendment tha!
would take care of that and he's done that. I think this is kind of a trao
step process. I lhink we have to first know that we have lhe abiliLy or
the flexibility to change the contract and either concurrently or after
that you have lo consider whether or not you want to and what kind of
standards you might apply. I've discussed this tlith commissioner Erhart
and he rightfully points out that when you consider 1 acre -Iots relaLive.Ly
Lo 2 !/2 acre lots, that other standards may be different as well. You may
Krauss: No. I'I1 keep you posted, I exPect that this is not the end of
it.
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hJan! to look at different front yard selbacks, different sideyard, you know-those sorLs of standards should be Iooked at comprehensively. If you'dIike us to fo]Iow up on this, I think the way in which to do it is todirect us to ask the City Council to direct me to submit this contracL
amendment to the Metro council and first see if we can get the flexibility -to take action. If you feel strongly enough about it. I guess we Lalkedabout Lhe l acre ]ots for a moment. I think you know, we've all beenthrough the process urhere we've seen first hand the difficulties we haverlith situations such as Timberu,ood and Sunridge Court and Lake LucyHighlands. That's not necessarily Lo mean that these are bad places to1ive. I mean anything but. They're highly attractive environments but
u,hat happens when you mandate a 2 !/2 acre standard, you cheu, up inordinate
amounts of ground for very smaLl gain. I mean t household on 2l/2 acres.
Not, if somebody truLy wanLs a 2 L/2 acre lot, that.'s their right but we,re
mandating that thaL's the minimum lot size right now and once weinstitutionalize that, you 've seen the problems that we have when we needto bring services around and through these areas because these peopLe havetheir own roads, Lheir own on-site seh,er and water and basically you 'refaced wiLh dead heading everything past them or assessing them for futurebenefit. It makes it difficult to develop comprehensive road systems. Oneof the things that we'd like to look into, and I know Commissioner Erhartraised this at a meeting, regional meeting with the Metro Council, is Lhat -
when you come down to smal.ler lot sizes, the l acre lot sizes, you have lhepotenLial to develop a community based on site sewage sysLem. t^le have oneof those right now over by Minnewashta. Now I'm not aware if that one tras -built correctly or not or functions properly or not but if we designed this
Lo a high standard, what you basically have is you have the systemterminating in a drainfield and if one day we need to provide services, you-just cuL out the drainfield and tap it into lhe sewer main that's theCity's so I think it gives you a lot of flexibility to brins utilities inin the future that ure don'L have in developmenls such as Timberwood. So Iguess from my point of view I would advocate that He do follow up and Iook -further at these one acre lots and if you wish, t,e'II submit that contract
amendment to the Metro Council and see what they say. I have no idea howthey're going to receive Lhis. I'm not even sure of the adminislrativeprocedure to go throush at this point because Chanhassen was singled outfor some very unusual treatment with that agreement. But it's a contract
and Iike any other contract it can be changed.
conradr Tim is the official rural expert. Do you feel comfortable lookingat the l acre lots?
Erhar!: Oh yeah. I think thi.s is a real important thing given the
experience hre've had here in the last year uith Lhe Comp PIan... I didbring a copy of Lhe...l,let Council. I've been following this a little bit
and attended one of their meetings. The turn about is unbelieveable
compared to r,,hat h,e Here faced urith back in 1985 or 1986 r.,hen b,e got firstinvolved wiLh that. You know statements Iike. . .asriculture preservation. . .I think Paul's correct. The first step is to.,.Iong term goal , first stepis Lo see if we can get the contract changed and then proceed Lo get as
much flexibility as we can and then go back and taiLor this thing to whatour needs and desires are here.
conrad: Anybody with a different opinion?
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Emmi nss: I agree completely.
Ellson: I do too and I like the idea of the communitv seder thing too.
Emmings: This could be one of the most significanL things we do for how
the southern part of the city develops and give us an oPPortunity to look
at whether or not ue're inLerested in agricultural Preservation, . .and also
the idea of clustering in this. I don't know to what exlent we can use any
kind of cluster development. Haybe you can't.
Erhart: I think it's important to understand that their policy on that is
a zoning policy. Other than that one contract, it doesn't really state hor,r
we have to execuLe that policy. tJe really aren't required to fo]low their
approach and the fact that our approach is more tailored to our situation
with smaller parcels, I don't think anybody at Met Council objected to
that. Io our approach.
Krauss:
Erhart:
In terms of clustering? The 1 per 10? No, they don't.
Their approach is more tailored to out in !,,estern Carver County...
Kraussr tlell one of the most significant things in that policy statement
though is they finalIy, for the first time, recognized situations that b,e
have realLy typlified in Chanhassen in that for the first time they came upwith this transition area designaLion which ue clearly are. I mean He're
surrounded on 4 sides by urban deve).opment, They recognize now that
there's some difference in Lhe way you manage land that you expect at somepoint to either go urban or be pressured to go urban than you do with prime
farmland if your primary moLivation is long term preservation. You may
want to allow some residential development but that's the accessory use,
and it's a real major change for Lhem. It's a very major departure.
Unfortunately they don't tell you very much about the transition area.
tlhat the standards are going to be or anything else but at least they came
up hJith the idea. I did prepare Hritten comments to the Melr-o Council on
that and basically gave them a pat on Lhe back for doing that and I asked
them to try to develop some more definition for that area because we've hadproblems with Metro Council on construction of TH ?L2 and TH 5 simply
because they went outside the MUSA Iine. They didn't recognize the fact
that there was traffic on the roads anyway or the fact that Chanhassen was
Iike]y to bring these areas into the HUSA ]ine- That's the reason why TH 5
is ending at CR 17 in the improvemenLs. That's the reason why Hetro
Council staff was opposing the construction of 4lane,212 through
Chanhassen. They actually aL one point advocated that it go from 4 lanes i
Eden Prairie Lo 2 lanes in Chanhassen at TH 1O1 and go back to 4 lanesagain in Chaska. Nour presumably wiLh the transition area recognition ure'lI
have a lot better time of it.
Krauss: They do encourage cluster development but the context that's
referred to in Lhat report that Tim's got, if you're out by a cornfield
in Young America someplace and they talk abouL clustering' if you've got
360 acres or old secEion or whatever it is. tle can exPlore that further. I
can ask them. I think, you know 1 acre relative Lo 2/7 2 acres, I mean
that's clustering in iLself in that context. It may be preferable to do
them even tighter than that but you can't do them tighter than that 9 times
out of 10 if you go r,rith individual ...
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Batzli: t^]hy does the proposed amendment that Roger's drafted not include a-1 acre minimum? It just includes the 1 per 10 density.
Krauss: tle]I r Lhink maybe we can define that further. Maybe we should.You point out a good poinL. I Lhink Roger just rewrote that paragraphdeleting the offending sentence.
BaLzIi: t^lould they accepL it without any minimum lot size in there?
Krauss: Probably not .
Erhart: If you read this, they're advocating no restrictions on minimumIot si'ze whatsoever and suggesting performance standard. If they do, itiis referenced however that in good soiIs, and independent septic systems,that 1 acre is probably the sensitive minimum siLe.
Emmings: To get two septic sites.
Batzli: So really on one acre they say you can get 2 sites.
Krauss: HeLl it depends on the soi1. It really depends on the individualsituations. They've also asked communities to develop and adopt high
standards of design and inspection for on site sewers. Fortunatety we didthat several years ago so bJe can go Lo them and say look, we've performed
and He'd like you to recognize that.
Erhart: They say in this...minimum Iotperformance standards. Current Council
determined by the standard . . .
size should be determined
i ndicate that the minimum
by
should be-
Conrad:
need to
Okay. How much time do youput into something like this
Beats me. I 'vedeal with it.
have to put, how much energy do you
Paul?
Krauss:
going to
never done it before. I don't know how they're
Conrad: tJe teII you Lo do stuff and then yet b,e never knou hour i.t affectsother Lhings you do. I think it's, I heard Steve say it u,as important to
him and Tj.m says it's important but I never know. Are h,e saying spend a
month of your Iife.
Krauss: l^le]I clearly if it became a major problem. I'm going to work with-you on this anyway. t^lhat f need to do is.get this on the City Council
agenda because they're the ones Lhat entered into the contract and get
their authorization to proceed. I'II shift it over to CarI Loren f believe-at the Metro Council and he and I can meet and discuss how we need toproceed on this. If it's simply a matter of their attorney changing thecontract for lhem and changing it for the Council, that's great but I've
found thaE noLhing's ever that simple at the Metro CounciI.
Emmings: A question. Let's say Timberwood, I'II use Timberwood as an
example where you've got a rural subdivision r^rith 2 L/2 acres. If we
change the ordinance can those people come back in and subdivide?
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Krauss: They probably could. As a matter
Klinselhutz has toLd me several times that
that.
Emmings: Yeah, and there's a Iot
very easy !o do because nothing's
!o take into consideration.
of fact Timberwood, AI
Timberwood was designed to do
of empty lots over there
buiIt. That's someth i ng
slill so it'd beelse ure'Il have
Emmings: So Lhere are covenants forprevent further subdivision?
Krauss: I doubt it.
Emmingsr Is there anything Iike thaL?
the preservalion as a whole that will
Erhart: Timberwood has. . .
EIIson: I think if we had known this in the beginning. I think we
arbitrarily have a line there and if we had known this in the beginning,
that could have just as easily have been the line as this one and I thinkit sort of makes sense because I don't think people want to build right on
top of a pipeline. It just seems funny that ue're goi.ng to take, well thisarbitrary one holds more weight than this one. I don't have a problem
necessarily moving it. I can understand the facL that we've alreadypresented it and that may be Steve's idea that if the proper thing comes inor whaLever but I have a hard time saying absolutely no because we didn't
have a real good reason for where it is.
Emmings: t^lell there wasarbitrary.a little bit of a reason. It b,asn'L completely
Batzli: I guess I would feel more comfortable recommending that it be
moved south if our city people spoke wiLh the l,Jilliam's Pipeline people
directly and knew that they would allow berming and plantings and thingslike that. Because if in fact they don't and this is just going to be an
Krauss: But that is an implication. If you moved into a 2 !/2 acre ]ot
neighborhood, would you be upset to find l acre lots next door?
Olsen: I know uhen we were working wiLh a couple of people who
specifically Iocated their homes so it could be subdivided.
Batzl i ; l^le probably need a blending ordinance
conrad: Let's go, if we're all done on that issue, Iet's 9o back to the
one h,e started with earlier tonight. Tim, before you came in ue had a land
owner present a map to shift our MUSA ]ine. No, not necessarily our
HUSA line but a boundary for a potential one of our zones a little bitsouth. I guess we should send some kind of signal . PauI , .you weren't
comfortable aith moving it? I guess I, well I'II open iL up. tlhat's the
commission's pleasure on this one?
E]lson: No, but I'm saying if we knew this plus the fact lhat we thoughtthere uras a couple Iittle elms there uould we have made the decisiondifferent probabLy? That's my opinion.
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open space, then it doesn't serve the purpose of our buffer bJhich weoriginally intended. So I guess f would .Iike to recommend it in aqualified way if I had my druthers after staff has had a chance Lo talk to
them to see what would be allowed.
Emmings: Do you think it ought to be presented? I mean the people LhatIive there in the blue were very invo).ved in the comprehensive plan. Uetook their concerns into consideration when ure moved it to Lhe north in the-first place. Doing this nithout telling them, they would be outraged I'msure and rightfully so so I think that's the other. I agree with r,rhat you
said and I thi.nk the other thing is it has to be presented to those folks
and get their i nput
Conrad: Before we moved the line to the north, where was it?
Krauss: It was on the property line.
conrad: Okay. So we had commercial abutting them? So moving it !o thetree Iine.
EI Ison: [.Jas arbi!rary .
Conrad: Was arbitrary but it was a distance away -
Krauss: It r.ras arbitrary buL it also wasn't. Yes, Ne did not know that
the Pipeline was there. tie did know that it was a property Iine. t^le did
know that it had some vegetative cover on it that in the summertime anyway
Iooks better than having nothing there. tle also knew that the land mass
was such that the top of the hilt is fairly close to Sunridge but iL
doesn't faII of a whole heck of a lot until you're past Rod's property line
and then it dips down substantiaLly. tlhen you're talking about 20 to 45
high Lip up panel buildings, they're going to be pretty visible across the -top of that plaLeau no matter where it is. Just below the hillcrest or
wherever. There was also a concern as I recall thaL was voiced by Hrs.
Barinsky I believe r^rho lives in a Chaska brick home and wanted to preserve -Chaska brick homes and Rod house is a Chaska brick house. And there was a
desire to maintain a residential feel for at least a significant amountportion of Audubon Road Lhat we're not just creating an island. Inprevious meetings with Rod Grams I've told him that I'd be pretty
relunctant to change this at this point but that if he came into me at somepoint in the fulure and had, was ab).e to present a done deal you know.
Here's our development package. tle're going to develop 30 homes on thisproperty here. Here's the buffer we're going to build and then we've go!
these indusLrial sites dourn there and packaged it up so basically it uras
served on a platLer and meet with the neighborhood and give them firm facts-
because we could do this as a PUO and it will be a firm commital . I can't -
go before a neighborhood, if we put that line on the pipeline nou,, I can't
guaranLee them that they're going to have the level of separation or
buffering that they would if everything were pushed beyond the hiII because-
then I know it's going to work. Even if tlilliam's Pipeline is cooperative,
r.lhich in our experience they're not, you just can't guarantee them.
conrad: You know sometimes you Iook aL the Chaska brick house= .nd ="y, -
there's nol much value left in them. You can ]ook at it two ways. I don't
know if they're historic or not. I know the one across the sLreet from
this property is quite nice and I feel that there's a reason to, I think
your comment Paul was that if you zone it commercial, the house's going to
be torn down. Got to be. So I guess I have a ProbLem with forcing it or
encouraging it to be torn down at this point in Lime. I also have a
problem with going back to the neighbors right now and telling them we've
got a different line and I haven't been Persuaded on this point and Rod
hasn't realLy, you know he's come in at the tail end. I90 back to the
buffer. I'm noL sure the buffer is there urhere the pipeline i.s uhere we'vegot i! so I would have a hard time revisiting the issue right nour. After
Iooking at aII those things and after working wiLh the neighborhood, I
guess I don't feel that there's any value to resurfacing it righL now.
Ahrens: t^lell I thought the comprehensive plan was kind of a done deal for
us at our level and I think that for us to entertain new proposals from
people in the community is a little unfair to everybody else in the
community who rlould think that maybe they have a chance to come in with a
neur great proposal that they've jusL come uP with in lhe last week and
since it hasn'L been approved yet by the City Council, they still have a
chance. I mean this process makes me real uncomfortable.
conrad: tJel] r talked to, Rod called me and I said weII bring it in. If
it makes sense we can do it before the process. If I thought it was an
easy deal and i! just made aII the sense in the world and the neighbors
were going to agree, hey I think r^re'd make that recommendation so the City
Council could see what it was. If we had that feelins but I don'! have
that feeling. Now that I see b,hat he's talking about and where he's moving
it, I don'L have a feeling at a]l that this is the righ! move and I
wouldn't entertain it. tlell that's my perspective but I asked, he was
trying to figure out how !o ]ook, get this in and we said we'II take a look
at it so I brought them back or I brought Lhem in. But I have no sense
that this is a belter move for anybody at this time.
Krauss: Commissioner Ahrens, I think your point's welI taken. You have
acted to send Lhem the plan Lo the City Council. This does not seem to be
a change. t^JeII it's unlike Ehe Lundgren proposal uhich when thaL one was
presenLed from an environmental slandpoint and from the standpoint that it
was high qualitv residenLial, kind of Iisht went on and ute utere able to do
that prior !o the public hearing or during the public hearing and it made
some sense. on the other hand, I think that there are going to be a number
of people probably at that January 7th meeting where you're going to bepresenting the plan to City Council and I like to think that uJe spend a lot
of time in analyzing these issues and they're put to bed but you know, you
will have people who, and I haven't really heard from anybody for a Iongtime honestly but I expect there to be people who basically say to
themselves I took my shot with the Planning Commission. I've still got one
more shot with the City Counci.L and try to have issues re-opened or
re-visited. t^lhether or not the Council does that is going to be up to them
but you're going to be at that meeLing hopefully on the 7th and if somebody
does come up wiLh an issue, I can see aII the heads on Lhe City Council
turning over to you and saying well what do you guys think abou! that. So
to Lhe extent that you've been able to think it through a IitEIe bit, I
don't think it would hurt.
conrad: Okay, should we close !t?
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Erhart: I think it's theI would prefer to have it
wrong time to...it'sbut I think it's the
actualLy more in line urhere
wrong time. . .
speech to
how some ofsafar
and hear
Conrad: Okay, Iast item. I asked Hike here to give a S minuteclose out. No, we're happy you're here Mike just Lo listen tothe process works or doesn't work. l.le real]y do enjoy it. It,better form of communication when City Council members are herewhat He're talking abouL. It loses a h,hole lot in Mj.nutes.
l'Iike Mason: It's good to have
Conrad: Anything else?
but Lhis is a far better Lhing.
Olsen: The next meeting we're going to be bringing a public hearing forthe, we talked about. rezoning A-2, the Timberwood...
Krauss: Hell you may want Lo hold off on that in ]ightfew minuLes ago now that I think about it. I mean thatprotec! Timberr.rood is to Ieave it agricultural .
of our
may be
discussion a
the way Lo
Erhart: You still have the requirement of the 1in 10 density and that
would preclude Timberwood from doing any subdividing-..
Krauss: That's right. Should we bring it together with this l acre stuff?
Erhart: Yeah. I think it is...
Erhart: Has anybody concluded what it means...Planning Commission?they positive or negative?
Conrad: I think that's positive.
Emm i ngs : [^le 've had none and we 've had almost 20.
reason I people
One time we
l.Jer e
had none.
counci I - AMi ke Mason: Tha!
Iot of people. . .
isn't the same
Emmi ngs: Out of jobs.
Ahrens: Ilore people out here.
ran for City
El lson: Yeah.
conrad: tJelI this is our last meeting this year. Seriously though, as theIast meeting, I think it's fun to sort of look back and we'II do thatin January and look back and see what we got done and what we didn't and
where we Hant to go but I'm really rather impressed with what we got donethis year. The reaction of the community to the comprehensive plan. Ithink that Has really quite nice. I'm impressed wiLh what everybody has
done and added and the energy that you've put in this year so I Lhank you
and I Lhink it's really fun to be on the Commission with aII you folks. Ilhink tha! gets reflecLed. I talk to Don occasionaLly too to find out ruhathe's thinking about whaL ure're doing and obviously he's gotten some verynice feedback on hot^r u,e've operated so again, l think it was a nice year
and we did some good things and I want to compliment you aII on t.hat.
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Conrad: They got bored with us
Krauss: They're at every council meeting but I thought they were here. I
mean they were at every comprehensive plan meeting, By the way, I had
heard at the Council meeting that He're losing Ann Hanson uho was ourrelatively new reporter for the Sailor. I heard she uras laid off. l^Je'renot suye if we're going to get coverage frankly so I've got to find out.I mean we always have Dave and Dave's been excellent.
Conrad: t^Jhen I was handing out Lhe job urell done, I Lhink again to the
Planning sLaff. I think your hel.p this year has been, you've really
improved a lot of things. I could go down the list of some of the staffreports and the updates and I think in general ue've made great strides soI thank the planning department for your help too. Is there a motion to
adjour n?
Batz1i: t^Jell we have to give credence to our grand poobah as weII.
Batzli moved, Ahrens seconded to adjourn the meeting.
and the motion carried. The meeting uas adjourned at
Submitted by Paul Krauss
P.Ianning Di r ector
A11 voted i.n favor
10:OO p-m..
Ellson: I think it's good planning for the community. People are getting
involved more and I like that. Llhatever happened when ue used to have the
newspaper here? I remember when I started they were going to be here with
us every ueek.
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TO: Don Ashworth, City Uanager
FROM: Paul Krauss, Planning Otrector 0L
DATE: Decenber 17, 1990
SU&r: 1991 coals for the Planning Department
fn formulating the Planning Departnent I s goals for 1991, I firstconducted a review of goal,s that we had established in 1990. Thefollowing constitutes a review of these goals.
1. Conplete the Comprehensj.ve P1an, hearing process and subnittalto the Metropolitan Council for review.
work on the Conprehensive PIan involved an extraordinaryanount of tine on the part of staff and the planning
Cornrnission. The tirne was spent not only ln drafting of theplan, but in an extensive round of neetings with individuals,developers and neighborhood groups that culninated in thefinal public hearing that rras held in earl.y Novenber, 1990.As you are avrare, the pl.an is going to be presented to theCity Council on January 7, l99l and it is our expectation thatit would be forwarded to the Metropolitan Council shortlythereafter. Work on the plan took sornewhat longer than hre hadanticipated, largely due to the tiDe required to obtaln publicinput. Horrever, I believe that the document is a good oneand, perhaps nore iurportantly, it appears to have been
accepted by the nany individuals who have been lnvol,ved in theplanning process.
2. Embark on a coordinated wetlands protection program.
Staff set this goal in 1990 recognizing the need to inproveour wetl.ands protection efforts. During the course of theyear, trro significant factors occurred. The first lras that itbecane clear that water quality is a growing issue for ourconrnunity. Not only do ve want to maintain water guality forour residents, but lt has becone a prirnary issue foi thelletropolitan council and other state agencies. The second was
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that there wouLd be benefits accruing if the storm lrater
managenent elenents being considered by the Engineering
Departnent could be coordinated with the uetLands and rraterquality programs that were being discussed by the PlanningDepartnent. Throughout the course of 1990, Planning and
Engineering DepartDent Etaff worked together to fonnulate an
approach to these issues. This approach cul,ninated in theproposal and adoption of the surface water utility district.
I,Ie believe that this district represents a high1y innovative
and cost effective neans of approaching this issue that willput chanhassen in the forefront of environmental and rraterguality protection. I have also interacted extensively withthe }letropolitan Council, the DNR, PCA and other agenciesrelative to uater guality issues stenning from problems withthe Minnesota River. This has culninated in my beingappointed to a Metropolitan Council Task Force designed toinvestigate vater quality issues in the llinnesota River
watershed and develop a comprehensive plan for irnproving theaquatic environrnent. I believe that this work has set thestage for sone conplex, but nevertheless exciting and
warranted work in 1991 and 1992.
complete the changeover
recycl ing .
to hauler sponsored curbs j.de
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4
The changeover was conpleted in April of 1990 and has provento be highly successful. Most of the credit for the strong
Continue to respond to needs to upgrade, revise and inprovethe zoning ordinance.
During 1990, staff developed a nunber of new ordinances that
have been reviewed by the Planning Cornraission, Board of
Adjustments and Appeals and city Council , most of which have
been refined and adopted and are currently in effect. Anongthe nore significant ordinance amendments include: a
cornprehensive redraft of the city's parking requirements, a
cornprehensive redraft of the cityrs site plan review with an
emphasis on irnproved guality of developnent, a new grading andmining ordinance drafted in conjunction rrith tbe cityAttorney, the interin use permit ordinqnce designed to dealwith uses of a tenporary nature, an ord.inance amendnentdealing with provision of access to lots by private driveways,
and a new approach to reviewing variances that is based upon
neighborhood standards. In fact, over the course of 1990,
much of the cityrs approach torrards varlance procedures has
been revised with the result that the Planning Cornmission andCity Council now review and approve variances connected to
development proposal-s and the Board of Adjustnents and Appealsconsiders variances dealing prirnarily vith single farnilyhones. We have also lmproved internal procedures for the
rev.iew and tracking of developroent proposals.
ur. Don Ashrrorth
Decenber 17, 1990
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staff support the Recycllng Conmission has given Ehould go to
Jo Ann O1sen and Shamin AI-Jaff. Participation in recycling
continues to iuprove whlle dlrect city costs for sponsoringrecycling have significantly decreased as a result of the useof hauler based recycling collection.
Cont.tnue to reorganize prograns and procedures to inprovecoordination with Pub1lc Safety, Engineering and Park and
Recreatlon.
Staff has spent considerable tlne undertaking tasks relatingto this goal. I believe we have established an excellent
working relationship with Etaff of both departments. One areathis is made evident is the strong coordination between the
Engineering and Planning Departnents ln enforcing the newgrading and nining ordinance.
continue to be responsive to the needs of the City Council,Planning commission, Housing and Redevelopnent Authority and
Board of AdjustBents and Appeals.
f believe that this goal has been reached and wil.l. continue tostrive to do so. A nurnber of new initiatives have beenoriginated by these bodies and have been foll,orred up by ourstaff and I hope that there is a high level of satisfactionthat staff has been responsive to these concerns.
Initiate cornputerization of departnental functions on an
increnrental basis.
Although ue have received hardlrare in 1990, the need tocoordinate acguisition of software and networking capabilitiesreguired to inplenent thls goal have laggeil. lye are lookingforward to working with the Data Processing Coordinator during
1991 to undertake this lnportant uork and irnprove utilizationof staff and equipDent.
Adopt anendnents to shoreland and floodplain ordinances in
response to new DNR regulations.
staff has prepared a revlEed floodplain ordinance and hasrecently discussed lt wlth the Planning corunission. we expectto bring it to the Pl.anning Connisslon and City Council forformal adoption in January, 1991. The DNR ahorelandregulations have proven sonewhat nore invol.ved than originallyanticipated. The Dl[R has not yet Eet a date for Chanhassen to
compLete their updates, although we believe this procedure isimminent. The shoreland ordlnance is sornewhat nore involvedand affects a nunber of propertles in our connunity. We vouldlike to work rrj.th DNR to obtain Eubstantial changes in the
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existing ordinance that reflect Chanhassenrs developrnentpattern.
The folLol'ing are the 1991 goals for the planning Departnent.
1. Co:nplete the CoDprehensl.ve PIan approval process by gainingitrs adoption by the Chanhassen clty Council and by theuetropolitan Councll. Begin plan luplenentatlon.
I{ork on the plan Ls now drauing to a close and lt J,s expectedthat the City Council w111 authorize aending it to theliletropol.itan Council in January. We have aluays ualntafnedthat the Metropolltan Council approval process coul.dconceivably be as difficult as the plan developnent uasinternally since there are a number of technical and politicalvariables that Day crop up. I have spent an vast amount oftine over the last 1l years rrorking extensively withMetropolitan CounciL Etaff to uncover any problens beforehand
and hopeful.ly uork then out, but it is difficult to Eay withany certainty that this is in fact the case.
fol1ow-up work effort, the Planning Cornrnission hastted to undertaking an analysis of the two rrstudy areasrlnated by the plan. These studies will essentially be
comprehensive planning efforts. We are not certain ifwill allorrr starting this progran in 1991, but the work
need to be initiated ln 1992 at the latest.
Initiate work rel,ated to the Surface Water Managenent progran.
Staff has been very active ln developlng the cityts surfacewater utiLity ordinance and progran. Nor{ that we have gottenover that hurdle, RFPS need to be devel.oped and consultantsretained so that rre nay undertake the planning portion of thiswork. It is envisioned that an RFp will be developed and aconsultant selected during the first quarter of 1991.Althouglr further discussion is required, it is likely thatsubconmittees or task forces Day need to be asslmbledconprised of Clty Council, planning Conmission and lesidentrepresentatives to undertake and conplete these studies. Thisis viewed as an extensive uork effoit that will enconpass atleast the next tlro years, ulth lnplenentation beglnning in thesecond year and folloving years. Staff has cornrniited togivlng !tq Clty Council. annual reports on progress andopportunities to review annual uork prograrns to iolicit theirinput.
Establish the Chanhassen Senior Conmisslon and begin work onsenior issues.
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December 17, 1990
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In 1990, staff contracted and conpleted work on the CDBG
funded senior needs study. As a resuLt of this study, theCity Council created the Chanhassen Senior Conmission in
Novenber, 1990. During 1991, it is Etaffrs goal to establishthis con'nission as a functioning entity, develop an agenda andundertake work rel.ated to senior needs in our connunity.Exactly what focus this wiII take is uncertaj.n at this pointin tiroe.
Improve code enforceDent on zoning related lssues.
In the past, code enforceDent relative to zoning code relatedissues has been difficult to undertake due to excessive workloads, prior staff connitnents and the fact that there weresinply too Eany other brush fires to put out. Public Safetystaff has atteDpted to fill this void in part with nixedresults. The process shereby Planning staff often workingwith Engineering staff spends nonths working on an issue onlyto then transfer it to another departnent for enforcement hasproven to be unwieldy and difficult to undertake. We findthat the process and Dot the individuals involved hasoccasionally resulted in nthe ball being droppedrr or erratlc
enforcenent plocedures. Therefore, f have discussed thisnatter with the Public Safety Dlrector and the Clty ltanager
and would anticipate setting up a procedure whereby tbe publicsafety systeD of nonitoring conplaints is adhered to foradninistrative purposes, but that Planning staff beconesdirectl.y responsible ln all stages of code enforcementrelative to issues pertaining to our department.
5. Conputerize Planning Departnent functions.
Staff continues to have a goal of cornputerizing staff
departnent functions to pronote efficiency and better use ofresources. Our ability to do this is sonewhat hampered by theneed to coordinate these prograns effectively with other
departnents and rtith the cityts Data Processing Coordi.nator.There is also a cost involved that Day be aignificant,holrever, this ls not clear at this point since much of the
hardware already exists. Staff will continue to push for
cornputerization of property records and other elements of useto departnental functions.
Continue to respond to needs to upgrade, revise and lnprovethe Zoning Ordl.nance.
This ls an on-going goal that I an sure uiII not be elininatedin the near future. The Plannlng Cornml.ssion has estabLishedan on-going issues llst that I have attached as back up tothis lneDo. Itens that they have asked us to undertake in 1990
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incLude: 1) researching rural area zoning standards includingpossibly lowering lot 6izes to one acrei 2) rretlands ordinanceredrafting in conjunctlon sith the surface water utilityt 3)shoreland ordinance i {) revLew legislation and possible
ordinance aDendnents pertaining to group hoDesi 5) review
ordinances pertaining to the BF district which occurs on
Ilighway 169 near the Minnesota Rlver. Ttre Planning Conmissionis considering revising or elininating this district toprotect the sensitive environnental features of this area.work on this progran was initiated under the conprehenslveplan review program.
staff rroul.d fike to initiate a cornprehensive redraft of thecityrs PUD ordinance. We believe that the current PUDordinance provides frankly too nuch latitude for developers
and not enough standards or guarantees for the connunity.
Continue the city's active involvernent in transportation
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The Planning Departnent provides staff support for Southwest
Metro Transit. we expect to continue to do this in 1991, butdo not envision any significant additional workLoads ln thisarea. We would like to sork with Southfest t{etro to iuprovepark and ride facilities in our conmunity.
Planning and Engineering staff have been working with aconsultant to undertake a review of downtown transportationissues. we expect to complete this report in 1991 andundertake an irnplenentation progran that is phased in
accordance with lts reconnendations.
Staff rrorked with Carver County and other cornnunities on theEastern Carver County Transportation Study. Ttris work has
been bonpleted ln 1990i however, there iE a need to continuethe transportation focus and respond to issues that became
knolrn and understood during the study. Staff will be workingwith the County Engineer and other neighboring connunities onthese natters 1n 1991.
continue to refine and iuprove our city recycling progran.
The Recycling Comrnission has reached a point where they are inneed of renewal and focus. During 1990, the coMitteeundertook substantial rrork and acconplished a lot uith theslritch over to hauler based recycling. In 1991, there is aneed to focus on the recycling of additional materiaLsincluding plastics and spreading the benefits of recycling toroulti-fanily housing and connercial properties.
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9 continue to refine and lnprove city procedures relative todevelopnent. Strive to uaintain and iuprove Chanhassen's
image as a progressive couounity that sets hlgh standards fordevelopDent. Haintaln good uorklng relationships uith
developers and brokers and ensure that residentrs concerns are
heard in the revlew process.
In 1990, staff proposed and had approved an ordinancerequirlng the posting of notification Eigns on sites
undergoing review for developnent. ThiE uas done to inprove
cornmunication uith area resj.dents a's to uhat the city wasreviewing. Staff is on the verge of acquiring these signs anduiII undertake the establishroent of a progran for their use by
developers in 1991.
The city Council has asked staff to undertake. an analysis of
the potential of charging developers for staff tirne undertakenin review of their developnent appllcation. I have developeda guestionnaire which has been nailed to a nunber of area
conununlties to find out their policies in this area. I expectto be able to cone before the city Council with a
recommendation to investigate the adoption of these fees in1991. In a reLated Datter, lt is also Decessary that the city
review and update the fee structure for all planning relatedactivities.
I have noted a probLeE In the filing of plats, conditions of
approval., variances, uetland alteration permits and relatedrnatters at Car:irer County. Our procedures to this point
generally place ful] rgliance on filing of the appropriate
docunentation by the appllcant. This has resul.ted j.n lack ofcity control of nany of these aspects and a lack of
coordination where easenents and other require:nents that rrere
intended to be filed against the property ultirrately were not.l{ost coruaunities assune responsibilities for filing of these
docunents to ensure conplete control over thl.s aspect of thereview procedure. Staff has spoken to the City Council
regarding thls lssue 1n the past and ln 1991 expects toestablish a procedure rrhereby the Clty Attorneyrs office wiLl
be held responsible for these activities. The City AttorneyrEtime to undertake these procedures wilL be billeil back to theapplicants in the forn of a revised fee structure.
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Conprehensive PIan fssues
1. Conprehensive Plan Update
Zonincr Code Amendments
1. Blending Ordinance
Sign ordinance
(1ow priority)
Tree ordinance - l.tapping ofsignif icant vegetative
areas
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l-Conputerize land use fi1es,pernits, conditions andexpiration dates on aparcel by parcel basis
Reappraisal on wetLandissues, ordinance and
rnapping in conjunctionwith storn water management
and water quality plan
Definition of structures
Shoreland Ordinance
Amendments to UUSA Boundary Adoption 12190
Future Use for Areasoutside the UUSA Boundary
REVTSED
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DECEIIIBER 5, 1990
STATUS
Reconmended for approval by Pco\ L0/24/90 - Adoption by CC12/90 - FuIl iupleuentationspring, 1991
1995 Study Areas - Work effortto begin after adoption of new
Conp PIan
Staff directed to devel-opscenarios - low priority
Scheduled Di scuss i onlS ta f fdirected to draft a potential
new zoning district ordinance -hrinter, 1991
Inactive
Inactive
agenda
Ongoing - CUPrs conpleted
Staff processing a positionpaper to revj.ew wetlandordinance and enforcement
Budgeted noney for update 2year tinef rame or stono r^raterutility fund
Winter,
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ONGOING ISSUES
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2. Rezoning BF Dist. to A2
Schedule futureWinter, l-99 1
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Flood zone ordinance
Grading/Mineral Extraction
Review legislation and
ordinance pertaining to
group homes
8.Variance ordinance and
procedures
9. ordinance revision dealingwith lots accessed byprivate driveways
10. ordinance revision dealingwith requirenent to post
signs of notice for
developnent
11. Zoning Ordinance Amendmentfor satellites on
Recreational Beachlots
12. Structures beIor., OHWM must
have a permit.
13. Revision of ordinancespertaining to antenna tolrers.
14. Zoning Ordinance Amendment
reguired by city council regarding
perfornance standards for parking
Iot setbacks and reguirenent for
buffer yards in IoP District.
15. Rural Area Policies - ordinance
changes sternrning fron revised
Metro council Policies
16. ordinance anendnent dealing with
shops selling adult rnaterials.
winter, 1991
Ordinance adopted
winter, 1991
Adopted by city CounciL
Approved by CC on 3/26/90
Adopted - signs to be
acquired
Pc Review oi'r Nov. 7 , L99O
PC Review on Nov. 7, l99O
winter, 1991