7. CUP - TCF Sign-Time & Temp
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CHANHASSEN
PC DATE:
5/7/97
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CC DATE:
5/27/97
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CASE #:
CUP 97-3 &
Sign 95-6
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PROPOSALS:
1) A request for an 8 inch variance from the 8 toot height requirement for
ground low profi.le signs.
2) A request for a conditional use permIt for time and temperature display
in a monument sign.
LOCATION:
900 West 78lh Street
APPLICANT:
Mr. Dave Shannon
Color Sign Service, Inc.
P. O. Box 124, 110966151 Street NE
AlbertvIlle, MN 55301
497-1374
TCF NatIOnal Bank
801 Marquel.1e Avenue
Minneapolis, MN 55402
I)RESEl'i'T ZONING:
BG, General Busmess District
ACREAGE-
1.68 Acres
DENSITY:
N/A
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE:
N - PUDR, Oak Ponds
S - PUD, Planned Unit Development
E - BG, West Village Center
W -BG, Vacant
WATER AND SEWER:
Available to the Site
PHYSICAL CHARACTER.:
The site contains an existing 5,000 sq. ft structure. Access is
provided from 78th Street.
2000 LAND USE PLAN:
Commercial
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TCF Sign CUP and Variance
May 20, 1997
Page 2
APPLICABLE REGULATIONS
Article XXVI, Section 20-1303 requires ground profile signs to be a maximum of eight (8) feet
in height when the principle structure is less than 50,000 sq. ft.
Article XXVI, Section 20-1259 requires a conditional use permit for time and temperature
(motion) signs.
BACKGROUND
Recently, TCF purchased the Century Bank building leading to expected changes in both the
wall-mounted and ground low profile signage. In order to accommodate the changes for the
ground profile sign, a height variance and conditional use permit have been requested. The
proposal for the wall-mounted signage does comply with the sign ordinance. Foremost, the
applicant is requesting an 8 inch variance from the height requirement for a ground low profile
sign. The second application is a request to construct a time and temperature display in the
monument sign.
According to the site plan review, Century Bank was designed and constructed to meet all the
requirements of the BG, General Business District and the HC-l, Highway Corridor District.
The signage approved in the site plan does meet ordinance requirements. The existing
monument sign is 8 feet (maximum permitted) in height and has a sign display area of 42 sq. ft
(64 sq. ft. permitted) (See Attachment 2).
HEIGHT VARIANCE
ANALYSIS
The applicant is requesting an 8 inch variance to construct an 8' 8" monument sign. The height
of a ground low profile sign cannot exceed 8 feet in height, if the principal structure is less than
50,000 sq. ft (Section 20-1303). The existing bank building is approximately 5,000 sq. ft. The
proposal would increase the height of the existing, conforming sign by 8 inches. The applicant
indicated that the gold and white trim cap is an integral part of the sign design. Staff suggests
that the applicant eliminate, reduce or redesign the l' 4" cap so a variance would not be needed.
Although the cap adds to the overall appearance of the sign, it also adds to the height.
The applicant indicated that the sign display area and the height cannot be reduced on
account of the following: (1) the time and temperature display letters must be a minimum
of 18 inches, (2) the Express Teller logo must be no smaller than the time and temperature
display and (3) the TCF National Bank Minnesota lettering must be visible from 78th
Street. Although the variance request is small in terms of measurement, staff believes the
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May 20, 1997
Page 3
applicant has a reasonable and equitable opportunity to utilize the existing brick base for a
monument sign.
FINDINGS
The Planning Commission shall not recommend and the City Council shall not grant a variance
unless they find the following facts:
a. That the literal enforcement of this chapter would cause undue hardship. Undue hardship
means that the property cannot be put to reasonable use because of its size, physical
surroundings, shape or topography. Reasonable use includes a use made by a majority of
comparable property within 500 feet of it. The intent of this provision is not to allow a
proliferation of variances, but to recognize that there are pre-existing standards in this
neighborhood. Variances that blend with these pre-existing standards without departing
downward from them meet this criteria.
Finding:.
The applicant believes that the existing bank monument sign is causing a hardship.
The proposal locates TCF's name, the Express Teller logo, and time and
temperature display on one monument sign. Staff acknowledges that reuse of a
monument sign may be difficult, however, this is a typical brick base monument
sige that supported a sign which met ordinance requirements. Reducing the size of
the sign display area or eliminating, reducing or redesigning the gold and white
trim cap will not prohibit TCF from having a reasonable and equitable
opportunity to advertise gf{nmd sigaage. The applicant stated that TCF has done a
substantial amount of marketing for this sign layout and believes that this will allow
for the greatest possible recognition for this site. The existing bank was able to
display their signage and still comply with the sign ordinance.
b. The conditions upon which a petition for a variance is based are not applicable, generally, to
other property within the same zoning classification.
Finding:
The conditions upon which a petition for a variance is based are not applicable,
generally, to other property within the same zoning classification
c. The purpose of the variation is not based upon a desire to increase the value or income
potential of the parcel of land.
Finding:
The purpose of the variation is not based upon a desire to increase the value or
income potential of the parcel of land.
d. The alleged difficulty or hardship is not a self-created hardship.
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May 20, 1997
Page 4
Finding:
The alleged difficulty or hardship is self-created. The applicant was aware that
TCF's signage is required to comply with the sign ordinance and fit into the existing
brick base prior to developing the proposal. The applicant is creating a hardship
by designing a sign which does not meet the ordinance. Staff 1:lH:derstaftds the
need for eorper-ate iaentity for reeegnition pmposes; hOW0'/ef, the siga ordinanee
protects the safety ana '.velfare as ':Iell as the aestheties of the cOl1'lm\:lmty.
e. The granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to
other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which the parcel is located.
Finding:
The granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public welfare or
injurious to other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which the parcel is
located.
f. The proposed variation will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to adjacent
property or substantially increase the congestion of the public streets or increase the danger
of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially diminish or impair property values
within the neighborhood.
Finding:
The proposed variation will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to
adjacent property or substantially increase the congestion of the public streets or
increase the danger of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially diminish or
impair property values within the neighborhood.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
ANALYSIS
The applicant is requesting a conditional use permit for a time and temperature sign to be located on
the monument sign. The time and temperature sign is standard for TCF signage. This motion sign
will comprise 11 sq. ft. of the sign display area. The actual letters will be 18" in height.
FINDINGS
The Planning Commission shall recommend a conditional use permit and the council shall issue
such conditional use permits only if it finds that such use at the proposed location:
1. Will not be detrimental to or damage the public health, safety, comfort, convenience or general
welfare of the neighborhood ofthe city.
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May 20, 1997
Page 5
Finding:
The time and temperature display will not be detrimental to or damage the public
health, safety, comfort, convenience or general welfare of the neighborhood of the
city. On the contrary, it is a convenience for the residents of the City.
2. Will be consistent with the objectives of the city's comprehensive plan and this chapter.
Finding:
This use is consistent with the objectives of the city's comprehensive plan and this
chapter.
3. Will be designed, constructed, operated and maintained so to be compatible in appearance with
the existing or intended character of the general vicinity and will not change the essential
character of that area.
Finding:
Staff believes that the time and temperature display has been designed and will be
constructed, operated and maintained so to be compatible in appearance with the
existing character of the West Village Center. This display will not change the
essential character of the area.
4. Will not be hazardous or disturbing to existing or planned neighboring uses.
Finding:
The time and temperature display will not be hazardous to existing or planned
neighboring uses. It may be considered a benefit for those traveling on West 78th
Street.
5. Will be served adequately by essential public facilities and services, including streets, police
and fire protection, drainage structures, refuse disposal, water and sewer systems and schools;
or will be served adequately by such facilities and services provided by the persons or agencies
responsible for the establishment of the proposed use.
Finding:
Will be served adequately by essential public facilities and services, including
streets, police and fire protection, drainage structures, refuse disposal, water and
sewer systems and schools; or will be served adequately by such facilities and
services provided by the persons or agencies responsible for the establishment of the
proposed use.
6. Will not create excessive requirements for public facilities and services and will not be
detrimental to the economic welfare of the community.
Finding:
Will not create excessive requirements for public facilities and services and will not
be detrimental to the economic welfare of the community.
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May 20, 1997
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7. Will not involve uses, activities, processes, materials, equipment and condition of operation that
will be detrimental to any persons, property or the general welfare because of excessive
production of traffic, noise, smoke, fumes, glare, odors, rodents, or trash.
Finding:
Will not involve uses, activities, processes, materials, equipment and condition of
operation that will be detrimental to any persons, property or the general welfare
because of excessive production of traffic, noise, smoke, fumes, glare, odors,
rodents, or trash.
8. Will have vehicular approaches to the property which do not create traffic congestion or
interfere with traffic or surrounding public thoroughfares.
Finding:
Will have vehicular approaches to the property which do not create traffic
congestion or interfere with traffic or surrounding public thoroughfares.
9. Will not result in the destruction. loss or damage of solar access, natural, scenic or historic
features of major significance.
Finding:
Will not result in the destruction. loss or damage of solar access, natural, scenic or
historic features of major significance.
10. Will be aesthetically compatible with the area.
Finding:
Will be aesthetically compatible with the area.
11. Will not depreciate surrounding property values.
Finding:
Will not depreciate surrounding property values.
12. Will meet standards prescribed for certain uses as provided in this article.
Finding:
Not applicable.
PLANNING COMMISSION UPDATE
On May 7, 1997, the Planning Commission reviewed and denied the variance and approved the
conditional use permit. The Planning Commission indicated that the time and temperature was a
pleasant addition to the site. However, they stated that the sign can be redesigned to eliminate
the variance. They expressed that ordinances exist to maintain certain standards within the
community. In order to override these standards, a serious situation or a compelling reason must
be presented. In this case, it is ornamentation, which does not constitute a compelling reason.
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May 20, 1997
Page 7
The applicant should reduce the height of the sign by 8 inches and keep the ornamental trim cap
on the monument sign.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends the City Council adopt the following motions:
"The City Council denies the request for an 8 inch variance for the construction of an 8' e 8"
monument sign based upon the findings presented in the staff report and the following:
1. The applicant has not demonstrated a hardship that would warrant the granting of a variance.
2. The applicant has a reasonable and equitable opportunity to utilize the existing brick base
for a ground low profile sign."
"The City Council approves the request for a conditional use permit for the time and temperature
display within a existing monument ground low profile sign."
ATTACHMENTS
1. Planning Commission minutes dated May 7, 1997
2. Application
3. Existing Century Bank Sign
4. Section 20-1303, General Business District Signage
5. Section 20-1259, Prohibited Signs
6. Property Owners and Public Hearing Notice
7. Sign Elevation
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MAY', 1997
Chairman Peterson called the meeting to order at 7 :00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Allyson Brooks, Alison Blackowiak, LuAnn Sidney, Craig Peterson,
Kevin Joyce, Bob Skubic and Ladd Conrad
STAFF PRESENT: Bob Generous, Senior Planner; Cynthia Kirchoff, Planner I; and Dave
Hempel, Asst. City Engineer
PUBLIC HEARING:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SIGN WITH A TIME AND TEMPERATURE
DISPLAY AND A HEIGHT VARIANCE ON PROPERTY ZONED BG. GENERAL
BUSINESS DISTRICT AND LOCATED AT 900 WEST 7STH STREET. TCF NATIONAL
BANK.
Public Present:
Name Address
Judy McDonald
Dave Shannon, Color Sign Service
51 McAndrews Road, # 119
2230 So. Plymouth Road, Minnetonka
Cynthia Kirchoff presented the staff report on this item.
Peterson: Thank you. Any questions of staff from fellow commissioners? The applicant is here,
would they like to address the Planning Commission? If so, come forward and state your name
and address please.
Dave Shannon: Hi. Dave Shannon from Color Sign Service, 2230 South Plymouth Road,
Minnetonka, Minnesota. Really we're trying to accommodate the City, and I know this is a small
request. The problem is that we're trying to use the existing brick foundation that the sign for
Century Bank is in. So we're trying to compress everything we have to say and still keep the
general tone and feel for all of the TCF signs throughout the metropolitan area so that this is sign
is similar to all the others because TCF has spent a lot of money developing an on-site ID
program that will work and has proven to work fairly well. The problem is that I just don't have
enough height to work with here and get a trim cap in that is like all the other signs. So I had to,
I even squished what I, if you can see from that design, the trim cap up on top is about 1 foot 4
inches high. Normally it's about 2 foot 4 inches high but I condensed it down even a little bit
more so that we'd be closer to the maximum 8 feet height. And the pro~lem is that we're just
trying to design around somebody else's foundation and get everything we want to say inside.
And I know it might not be a big point but to TCF, the trim cap and the time and temp are an
integral part of the design and we tried to come as close as we could to make it happen. Does
anybody have any questions regarding the design at all, I'd be happy to answer them.
Planning Commission Meeting - May 7, 1997
Peterson: Any questions for the applicant?
Skubic: I have one. Should this be rejected, what would your alternative plan be?
Dave Shannon: Well we could take the, extend the planter, or that brick base. See we're asking
for 42 square feet and we're allowed I think it's 64, isn't it Cindy? 64 square feet. So we could
take the brick planter down, or the base I should say and redesign it and then put in 64 square feet
of sign age. But we're, you know it's not just a financial matter. It's the base is here. How close
can we get to what the City wants and what my customer needs so chances are we would, we
migbtdo that. I can't say for sure that TCF would because it's an additional expense and there's
a time frame involved because the bank has to be open under the new name by a certain date and
we have a lot of other factors too.
Joyce: You're saying that you'd leave the 42 square feet right now and if the alternative would
make, be a larger sign obviously.
Dave Shannon: Larger, yeah. Longer but not over the 8 foot height. So we feel it's kind of a,
it's a nice compromise.
Skubic: Thank you.
Peterson: Other questions?
Blackowiak: Some quick questions. Can .we look back at the sign? Would that be possible?
Does Express have to be over Teller or can it be to the left of Teller and I mean kind of squish
everything down?
Dave Shannon: Well the, yeah. That's the problem. It's a logo and it's advertised. Every
Express Teller sign has to be the same and so Express Teller, Express does have to be over Teller
and with those color combinations, yeah.
Blackowiak: It does, okay.
Dave Shannon: I'm afraid so. It's sort oflike the, we do signs with, I think it's the Fast Bank for
First Bank is always the same and Instant Cash for Norwest Bank.
Blackowiak: Yeah, Ijust didn't know ifit was required to be on top.
Dave Shannon: I'm afraid so.
Blackowiak: Okay, that's it.
Peterson: Any other questions?
Conrad: Yeah, sorry. I was a few seconds late. The brick base, or the sign facia is that over the
brick base? Or is it cut into the brick base?
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Dave Shannon: It's really, if you take the sign there and take it out, you'd just have the brick
base left.
Conrad: So where I see the bricks on the end, there's solid brick behind that?
Dave Shannon: Right.
Conrad: So this is an overlay. This is on the front side of the.
Dave Shannon: Yeah. What we're doing is we're placing the sign inside the, we're going to take
the existing Century Bank sign out. Build a new sign and put it in it's place.
Conrad: And why can't it drop down 8 inches?
Dave Shannon: Well, I think you could. You could rebuild that. I think you get to a point where
the snow builds up. I don't know.
Conrad: How high off the ground is the?
Dave Shannon: 2 foot 4 and that's really kind of stretching it for snow.
Conrad: Is that up on a hill?
Dave Shannon: Yeah, it's on a hill but it builds up on the west side I think a little bit. At least I
noticed it this winter as snow build up. I think on the east side you wouldn't have a problem but
we kind of actually, 2 foot 4's kind of stretching it. We like to keep at least 3 Y2-4 feet above
grade on any sign we do but there are occasions where we change it.
Conrad: And it's really not a visibility issue is it? It is up. It is, but it's really a matter of being
above maybe snowfall, right?
Dave Shannon: Yeah.
Conrad: Not a visibility.
Dave Shannon: No, it's not a visibility issue because the sign itself is up on a hill. It has good
height.
Peterson: Okay, thank you. This item is open for a public hearing. If! could get a motion and a
second to open it for a public hearing.
Joyce moved, Brooks seconded to open the public hearing. The public hearing was opened.
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Peterson: This is a public hearing so if you have anything to add to the comments made earlier,
please come forward and state your name and address. Seeing none, may I have a motion to
close the public hearing and a second?
Conrad moved, Joyce seconded to close the public hearing. The public hearing was closed.
Peterson: Commissioners. Bob.
Skubic: I don't have any problem with the conditional use permit for the time and temperature.
That's fme, and that's what staff has recommended that that be approved. Regarding the sign, I
really would like to, you know we have ordinances here to level the playing field and keep
everything on the level. I would like to see the applicant try to condense it a little bit more. It's 8
inches over about a 5 foot area elevation there. Or make it wider or lower it or do something to
fit it within that constraint. I like the topping on there. I think that adds a nice touch to it so I
hope that can remain. I would like to see, I'll agree with staffs recommendation.
Peterson: Thanks. Kevin.
Joyce: I usually take variances kind of seriously. To override the standards we have in place,
they have to be a serious situation.. .compelling reason here and I see that what we're talking
about really is ornamentation. I don't think that that's compelling a reason. The only question I
have though is if they're forced to push it down, would it become a larger sign, in which case I
don't want that to happen either. I think I'mjust going to agree with Bob though that I'd like to
see them try to squeeze it down. Keep within the framework of our standards here. As far as the
other proposal, I'm fine with it. The motion. I'd echo what Bob said and keep the variance the
way it is, or keep the standards the way it is. No variance.
Peterson: Thank you. LuAnn.
Sidney: I believe, no I have no problem with time and temperature display as discussed by the
applicant. I do have a problem with granting a variance. We have ordinances in place for the
purpose of not, for maintaining certain standards within the community and at this point I don't
believe that I would recommend a variance in this case. I would like to see a redesign to bring
the sign into the 8 foot height requirement.
Peterson: Okay, thank you. Ladd.
Conrad: Question for staff. The applicant could build up the ground, couldn't they?
Generous: Sure.
Conrad: Absolutely. Just put 8 inches offill and the sign meets our specs. I think this is small
potatoes. 8 inches is not a big deal. I'd really like to ask the applicant to try to make this work. I
don't even want to talk about an 8 inch deal here. This is you know, I'd really like the applicant
to make it work, and maybe ifit's got down to a couple inches it might go away and the grass
will grow bigger and we won't notice, you know. I want the cap on the sign.- I want the cap
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there. I'd be real disappointed if the sign grows. I'd be real disappointed if it didn't have a cap.
r d really like the applicant to try to get it down a little bit but there are ways he can put
something in here that's legal, that's a lot worse than what he's asking for so again, I'm going to
go with denying the variance but not because it doesn't make some sense. I just wish, you know
the applicant could try to make it a little bit closer to be real honest because the design is fine. I
don't want a bigger sign. It's not, the cap is what makes it look somewhat decent so I don't want
to lose that, very honestly. And 8 inches, on this sign is nothing so the precedence setting and the
standards is absolutely right. There's not a good reason from a code standpoint to grant a
variance but again I think there's so many ways we can get a worse product here and keep our
standards intact that you know, I just hope staff can figure something out here and I don't want to
see this again. Get it out of here.
Peterson: Thank you, Allyson.
Brooks: Well I see no compelling reason for permitting the variance. I think you can work with
the sign to get it. To get it to meet requirements. And I think that we should go ahead and
approve the conditional use permit for the time and temperature display. I don't think that's a
problem.
Peterson: Alison.
Blackowiak: I agree with what's been said and I certainly agree with what Ladd said and
couldn't say it any better so.
Peterson: Well my thoughts are the same. I have no further comments to add so with that I
would enjoy hearing a motion and a second please.
Skubic: rn make a motion that the Planning Commission deny the request for an 8 inch variance
and the construction of an 8 foot 6 inch monument sign based upon the findings presented in the
staff report, items 1 and 2. And that the Planning Commission approve a request for a
conditional use permit for a time and temperature display within the existing monument ground
low profile sign.
Peterson: Is there a second?
Brooks: Second.
Peterson: Any discussion?
Skubic moved, Brooks seconded that the Planning Commission recommends to deny the
request for an 8 inch variance for the construction of an 8'6" monument sign based upon
the findings presented in the staff report and the following:
L The applicant has not demonstrated a hardship that would warrant the granting of a
vanance.
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2. The applicant has a reasonable opportunity to reuse the existing ground low profile sign.
And also the Planning Commission recommends to approve the request for a conditional
use permit for the time and temperature display within the existing monument ground low
profile sign. All voted in favor and the motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR A LAND USE PLAN AMENDMENT FROM RESIDENTIAL-LOW
DENSITY TO RESIDENTIAL-MEDIUM DENSITY FOR THE NORTHERN 30+ ACRES
OF THE PARCEL: PUD REZONING FOR APPROXIMATELY 50 ACRES OF
PROPERTY FROM A-2. AGRICULTURAL ESTATE TO PUD-4. PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL MIXED DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT:
SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR 44 BUNGALOW HOMES AND 168 VILLA TOWNHOMES:
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION REOUEST OF 249 LOTS. 2 OUTLOTS AND
ASSOCIATED RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF
GALPIN BLVD. AND HWY 5. WALNUT GROVE. RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
INC.
Public Present:
Name Address
David Jensen
Rick Manning
John Hennessy
Joan Joyce
Mark S. Peyereisen
Rick Sathre
Todd Stutz
Rick Murray
Julie Wojtanowski
Carol Oberaigner
2173 Brinker Street
7460 Windmill Drive
7305 Galpin
2043 Brinker Street
7501 Windmill Drive
150 So. Broadway, Wayzata
2601 Long Lake Road, Roseville
15 Choctaw Circle
2145 Brinker Street
2075 Brinker Street
Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item.
Peterson: Thank you Bob. Any questions of staff?
Joyce: Bob, I have a question. Actually two details. Number one, on this density on the front
page. Is that supposed to be net density of5.74?
Generous: Yes.
Joyce: Okay.
Generous: That was a carry over from the original report and I never.
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(either copy of Owner's Duplicate Certificate of Title, Abstract of Title or purchase agreement), or I am the authorized person
to make this application and the fee owner has also signed this application.
1 Will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I further
unde1Stand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any
authorization to proceed with the study. The documents and information I have submitted are true and correct to the best of
my knowledge.
The city hereby notifies the applicant that development review cannot be completed within 60 days due to public hearing
requirements and agency review. Therefore, the city is notifying the applicant that the city requires an automatic 60 day
extension for development review. Development review shall be completed within 120 days unless additional review
extensions are approved by the applicant
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Signature of Applicant
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Signature of Fee OWner
Application Received on ~ Fee Paid ~ +-75 .00
Date
Receipt No. 2id)
The applicant should contact staff for a copy of the staff report which will be available on Friday prior to the meeting.
If not contacted, a copy of the report will be mailed to the applicant's address.
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CHANHASSEN CITY CODE
of any public or institutional property giving the name of the facility and nature of the
use and occupancy. Such sign shall be located at least ten (10) feet from any property
line, and shall not exceed five (5) feet in height.
(2) Area identification/entrance signs. Only one (1) monument sign may be erected on a
lot, which shall not exceed twenty. four (24) square feet of sign display area, nor be
more than five (5) feet high. Any such sign or monument shall be designed so that it
is maintenance free. The adjacent property owner or a homeowners association shall
be responsible for maintenance of the identification/entrance sign. Such sign shall be
located so as not to conflict with traffic visibility or street maintenance operations,
and shall be securely anchored to .the ground.
lOrd. No. 231, ~ I, 1.9.95)
Sec. 20.1302. Neighborhood business, fringe business, and office and institutional
districts.
The following signs shall be allowed by permit in any 01, BF, or BN districts:
(1) Ground low profile business signs. One (1) ground low profile business or institutional
sign not exceeding twenty.four (24) square feet of sign display area shall be permitted.
Such sign shall be located at least ten (10) feet from any property line and shall not
exceed five (5) feet in height.
(2) Wall business signs. One (1) wall business sign shall be permitted on the street
frontage for each business occupant within a building. Wall business signs shall not
be mounted upon the wall of any building which faces any adjoining residential
district without an intervening public street. The total of all wall mounted sign
display areas for each business shall not exceed the square footage established in the
following table:
Maximum Percentage
of Wall
15%
13%
11%
9%
7%
5%
3%
Wall Area in Square Feet
Total Square
Footage of Signs
0-600
601-1,200
1,201-1,800
1,801-2,400
2,401-3,200
3,201-4,500
4,500+
90
156
198
216
224
230
240
(3) Wall signs shall not include product advertising. Wall signs shall only include tenant
identification, tenant logo or registered trademark, center name, or any combination
of the three.
COrd. No. 231, ~ I, 1.9.95)
Sec. 20.1303. Highway, general business districts and central business districts.
The following signs shall be allowed by permit" in any "BH", "BG", or '''CBri''1)istrict:
Supp. No.7
1270
ZONING
~ 20.1304
The following table lists the standards for freestanding and ground low profile signs in the
BH, BG, or CBn zone.
50,000 sq. ft. or greater
Less than 50,000 sq. ft.
Height
(feet)
20
16
Pylon
Sign Size
(square feet)
Ground Low Profile
Height Sign Size
(feet) (square feet)
Principal
Structure
80
64
10
8
80
64
(1) Pylon business sign. Pylon signs are permitted on parcels that abut State Highway
corridors only. One (1) pylon identification sign shall be permitted. This sign may
identify the name of the center o(the major tenants. The height and square footage
of the sign shall be based on the square footage ofthe principal structure as shown in
the table. Such signs shall be located at least ten (10) feet from any property line.
(2) Ground low profile business signs. One (1) ground low profile business sign shall be
permitted per each outlot or separate building pad that has street frontage. The
height and square footage of the sign shall be based on the table above. Such signs
shall be located at least three hundred (300) feet from any other pylon or ground sign
and at least ten (10) feet from any property line.
(3) Wall business signs. Wall business signs shall be permitted on street frontage for each
business occupant within a building only. The total of all wall mounted sign display
areas for each business shall not exceed the square footage established in the fol-
lowing table:
Maximum Percentage
of Wall
Wall Area in Square Feet
Maximum Square
Footage of Sign
15%
13%
11%
9%
7%
5%
3%
0-600
601-1,200
1,201-1,800
1,801-2,400
2,401-3,200
3,201-4,500
4,500 +
90
156
198
216
224
230
240
(4) Menu board. One (1) menu board sign per restaurant use is permitted with a drive.
through facility. Such sign shall not exceed forty-five (45) square feet in size nor
greater than eight (8) feet in height. Such sign is permitted in addition to any other
sign permitted in the zoning district.
See. 20-1304. Industrial office park signs.
The following signs shall be allowed by permit in any lOP district:
(1) Pylon or ground low profile business signs. Pylon signs are permitted on parcels that
abut the Highway 5 corridor only. One (1) pylon or one (l) ground low profile Indus-
Supp. No.7
1271
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CHANHASSEN CITY CODE
construction; or erected without a pennit fll"st being granted to the installer of the sign to the
owner of the property upon which the sign has been erected or is improperly maintained, or is
in violation of any other provision of this chapter, he shall give written notice of such violation
to the owner or permittee thereof. If the permittee or owner fails to remove or alter the sign
so as to comply with the provisions set forth in this chapter within (10) calendar days following
receipt of said notice:
(1) Such permittee or owner may be prosecuted for violating this chapter and if convicted
shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. Each day a violation exists shall constitute a
separate offense.
COrd. No. 231, ~ 1, 1.9.95)
Sec. 20-1259. Prohibited signs.
The following signs are prohibited:
(1) Advertising or business signs on or attached to equipment, such as semi.truck trailers,
where signing is a principal use of the equipment on either a temporary or permanent
basis.
(2) Motion signs and flashing signs, except time and temperature signs and barber poles
which may be permitted by conditional use permits (see sections 20.231 through
20.237).
(3) Projecting signs, not including awning or canopies as defined in this chapter.
(4) Roof signs, except that a business sign may be placed on the roof, facia or marquee of
a building provided it does not extend above the highest elevation of the building,
excluding chimneys, and provided:
a. Roof signs shall be thoroughly secured and anchored to the frames of the building
over which they are constructed and erected.
b. No portion of roof signs shall extend beyond the periphery of the roof.
(5) Wall graphics and design treatments depicting corporate logos and company symbols.
(6) Temporary signs or banners except as permitted in section 20-1256.
(7) Signs which are placed or tacked on trees, fences, utility poles or in the public right-
of-way.
(8) Bench signs are prohibited except at designated transit stops as authorized by the
local transit authority.
(9) Billboards.
(Ord. No. 231, ~ 1, 1-9.95)
Sec. 20-1260. Nonconforming signs.
When the principal use of land is legally nonconforming under this chapter, all existing
or proposed signs in conjunction with that land, shall be considered conforming if they are in
compliance with the sign provisions for the most restrictive zoning district in which the
principal use is allowed.
Supp. No.7
1266
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
PLANNING COMMISSION
Wednesday, May 7, 1997
at 7:00 p.m.
City Hall Council Chambers
690 Coulter Drive
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SUBJECT: Conditional Use Permit
and Height Variance for
TCF Sign
APPLICANT: TCF National Bank
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LOCATION: Lot 3, Block 1, West
Villages Heights 2nd Addition
NOTICE: You are invited to attend a public hearing about a proposal in your area. The
applicant, TCF National Bank, is requesting conditional use permit for a time and temperature
display and a height variance for a display sign to be located in a BG, General Business District,
and located at 900 West 78th Street.
What Happens at the Meeting: The purpose of this public hearing is to inform you about the
developer's request and to obtain input from the neighborhood about this project. During the
meeting, the Commission Chair will lead the public hearing through the following steps:
1. Staff will give an overview of the proposed project.
2. The Developer will present plans on the project.
3. Comments are received from the public.
4. Public hearing is closed and the Commission discusses project. The commission will then
make a recommendation to the City Council.
Questions and Comments: If you want to see the plans before the meeting, please stop by City
Hall during office hours, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. If you wish to talk to
someone about this project, please contact Cindy at 937-1900 ext. 117. If you choose to
submit written comments, it is helpful to have one copy to the department in advance of the meeting.
Staff will provide copies to the Commission.
Notice of this public hearing has been published in the Chanhassen Villager on April 24, 1 ~97.
Perkins Restaurants Operating
6075 Poplar Ave., Suite 800
Memphis, TN 38119
Dayton Hudson Corp. T -862
Property Tax Dept.
777 Nicollet Mall
Minneapolis, MN 55402
William Smith & Carolee Watkins
898 Kimberly Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Corey & Tamara Larsen
910 Kimberly Lane
Chanhassen,MN 55317
Wendy Evenson
885 Kimberly Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Mark Heyer & Brent Heyer
979 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Earl Ferguson
967 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Debbie Janzen
973 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen,MN 55317
Gerald Oberlander & Beth Hayes
959 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Susan Conzet
947 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
CNL American Properties Fund
400 East South Street, #500
Orlando, FL 32801
Joan Holasek
888 Kimberly Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Doris Mielke
902 Kimberly Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dean R. Johnson Construction
20170 75th Ave. N.
Corcoran, MN 55340
Cathleen Galland
881 Kimberly Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Cheryl Stock
981 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Cynthia Works
969 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Philip & Dawn Gleason
955 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen,MN 55317
Brenda Smieja
961 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
John & Michelle Linden
949 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Taco Bell Corp. c/o Pizza Hut
Tax Dept.
P. O. Box 970
Wichita, KS 67201-0970
F. Patrick & Janice Ingle
892 Kimberly Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Wayne & Jean Binfet
906 Kimberly Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Bruce & Suzanne Beaty
889 Kimberly Lane
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Helen Quach
977 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Craig & Beth Hallett
983 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Luretta Larson
971 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Stephanie Pikarski
957 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Colleen Healy
945 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Larry Zamor
951 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Illdrew & Christian A1thauser
'33 Santa Vera Drive
~hanhassen, MN 55317
:. Cook & Walter & Mary Tellegen
)39 Santa Vera Drive
:hanhassen, MN 55317
3eth Traver
l27 Santa Vera Drive
':hanhassen, MN 55317
>aula Langer
} 13 Santa Vera Drive
:hanhassen, MN 55317
t.odney Brown & Michelle Drewelow
'717 Nicholas Way
~hanhassen, MN 55317
:harles & Martha Walker
'723 Nicholas Way
.~hanhassen, MN 55317
~ancy J. Metcalf
7713 Nicholas Way
':hanhassen, MN 55317
'\11ison Degraffenreid
1703 Nicholas Way
:hanhassen, MN 55317
:::had Lea & Lori Jensen-Lea
.'693 Nicholas Way
:l1anhassen, MN 55317
Wayne Salisbury & Tobey Salisbury
7699 Nicholas Way
:hanhassen, MN 55317
Jeanne Etem
935 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Mark & Sandra Berger
923 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Gary Johnson & Teresita Brigino
929 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Patricia Hauck
915 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Lori Carsik
7719 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Thomas & Sheryl Erickson
7709 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Earnest Stonebraker
7715 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Alan Lee
7705 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Lydia Kiebzak
7695 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dana Geisert
7685 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Traecy Waldschmidt
937 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Timothy & Jennifer Jones
925 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
John & Janice Moberg
911 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
David & Amy Mehl
917 Santa Vera Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
James & Barbara Lugowski
7721 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Jeffrey & Debra Miller
7711 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Gregory & Mary Peterson
7701 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Peter & Anne V oas
7707 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Scott Grebe & Kristin Fulkerson
7697 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Brent & Jacqueline Carlson
7687 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Matthew Mesenburg
7689 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 553 I 7
Daniel Flaherty
7677 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Casey Powell
7683 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Deborah Scott
7673 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Daniel & Darcy Buger
7661 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Todd Mahlen & Jean McCoy
7667 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Ereyna Szarke
7653 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Gregory Mours & Joanne Fligiel
7637 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Bruce Amundson
7643 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Charles Dancha
7625 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Monica Hanley
7691 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen,MN 55317
Steven & Teresa Laberge
7679 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Laura Lusson
7669 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Elton & Lois KIug
7675 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 553 I 7
Kathleen Skovran
7663 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Anh Tuyet Ly
7649 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Douglas & DarIa Holmgren
7655 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Ryan Meyer
7639 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Brian & Raelynn Toltzman
7645 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Michael Brandt & A.Battaglia Brandt
7627 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Oak HilI Homeowners Assn.
8984 Zachary Lane N., Suite B
Maple Grove, MN 55369
Patricia Peterson
7681 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Donna Pfaff
7671 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Julie A. Brown
7659 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Thomas & Tina Saue
7665 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
WiIliam Dale & Staci Vielbig
7651 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Kamal Hasan & Fatoom Naseibeh
7657 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Kevin Keil & Tara Thomas
7641 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Tracy Hanson
7647 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Lonnee VanDenHeuvel
7629 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
)aniel Nauratil
1631 Nicholas Way
:banhassen., MN 55317
Matthew Walsh
;]613 Nicholas Way
Cbanhassen., MN 55317
Sara Ralston
7619 Nicholas Way
:hanhassen, MN 55317
Karen Kiser
7601 Nicholas Way
:hanhassen, MN 55317
:atherine Ehlen & Cynthia Ehlen
7607 Nicholas Way
::::hanbassen, MN 55317
Jak Hills Homeowners Assoc.
~. O. Box 812
:hanhassen,MN 55317
r. F. James Company
Suite 500
5640 Shady Oak Rd.
Eden Prairie, MN 55344
Mark Falzone
7633 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Michael & Margaret Cuccia
7615 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dawn Glander
7621 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Lois Martens
7603 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Michael & Lisa Gearman
7609 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dean Johnson Construction
20170 75th Ave. N.
Corcoran, MN 55340
Forrest & Michelle Johnson
7635 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Christopher Jackson & Verne NetzoW
7617 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Lee Karels & Kimberly Stumm
7623 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Michael Pekarna & S. Kuethe-Pekarna
7605 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dale Boyer
7611 Nicholas Way
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Ted Bigos
Apt. 1400
6400 Barrie Rd.
Edina, MN 55435-2320
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