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WS 1999 05 10aCONTINUATION OF BOARD OF EQUALIZATION AND REVIEW. Public Present: Name Address Keith & Pat Gunderson Paul Haik Don Sennes Jahn Dyvik Eldon Degler 6661 Mohawk Drive 261 Hidden Lane 6680 Mohawk Drive 610 Pleasant View Road 6611 Mohawk Drive Mayor Mancino: Is there anyone here tonight wishing to address the Council. Sorry, I thought that the County was going to speak. Is there anyone wishing to address the Council tonight on their market value for the year 2000? Board of Review 1999. Anyone here tonight? Please come forward. State your name and address and if you have your PID number. We have a list so we will look through it and try and find your data. Don Sennes: My name is Don Sennes. My wife and I live at 6680 Mohawk Drive since 1981. That's ID number 25.1600500. Mayor Mancino: Are you on the list? Have you applied? Where are we? Oh, thank you. 37-38. Councilman Engel: Which appeal number is that? Mayor Mancino: 37-38. Appeal number 37 and 38. Just excuse me, we've got a lot of paperwork so let us just get to your appeal. Okay. Is everybody there so we can follow Mr. Sennes? Don Sennes: I've got some sheets here with some tables of three nearby, can I just give you those rather than? I've got six copies... Mayor Mancino: Okay, do you want to review it with us for one minute? And you have a copy of it? Okay. If you can hold on, we'll all get it in front of us so we can follow along with you. Don Sennes: You want me to keep standing here? Mayor Mancino: Hate to make you do it but that way we can. If you want to kind of just go over it generally. Don Sennes: Well yeah. The Assessor's proposal to raise the home value 6.25% which is $9,300.00. Ann from the Assessor's office told me the homes in our price range are really selling good. Like hot cakes. So the values are going up a lot more than the 1%, the 3% that Mr. Shafer mentioned at the April 5th meeting. But then there are three homes within 200 feet of our home that are in a similar price bracket. One home at a 10.2% decrease in value. But that did follow a large increase the year before so I don't know what happened there. And that one also has an addition that was started last year. Our home is not, had any changes or improvements since 1985. One of the other homes had a .5% decrease in value and the other a .5% increase in value so I just don't know why mine is going up 6.25% after 3.25% increase last year. Mayor Mancino: Okay, thank you. Ann, would you like to respond at all? Ann Wise: I reappraised the Carver Beach, you know came through in '97 for the '98 assessments and most properties went up in value. You know a lot of them quite a bit but it varied depending on the property. But this year they weren't changed from what we had recommended in '98. But yours had been lowered down below what we felt is fair market value so this year it was you know raised again. But I did come out and I recommended lowering it, what was it. Don Sennes: I think you said 155. Ann Wise: Lowering yeah, down $3,100.00 to $155,000.00. Don Sennes: But I mean one of these houses, the house across the street went down 5/10 of a percent. The other one went up just 5/10 of a percent and the other one went down 10.2%. I realize it had a huge increase the year before but the other thing, my last line on this, it appears that if you're successful in appealing a value increase one year, attempt will be made to get it back the next year. My didn't go down last year. It did go up 3.25% and now with what you were asking for this year, it would be within $200.00 of what you tried to get it up to last year. Ann Wise: Because the market value that I proposed last year is what, is similar to what I feel the house would sell for this year. So I didn't change my. Don Sennes: You're saying you didn't get mine up high enough last year. And the year before so. Ann Wise: No, that isn't what. Don Sennes: The one across the street went down and mine goes up...that's what I don't understand. See when I talked to you on the phone, I didn't know what had happened to the three houses closest to me. Mayor Mancino: Mr. Sennes, we'll review that as a council, so thank you. We understand your concern and we will review that. Thank you. Don Sennes: Thank you very much. Mayor Mancino: Anyone else wishing to address the Council? Please come forward. State your name and you can, it will take us a minute to get the paperwork in front of us again. Jahn Dyvik: My name is Jahn Dyvik and my PID is 25.7300080. Mayor Mancino: Number 12. And your market value is the same as last year's. Jahn Dyvik: Right. But in the year prior to that it jumped about $95,000.00 in that one year. Largely due to what was determined to be new construction. Which was really mis, was determined incorrectly. Because there wasn't that much new construction that was done in the year prior. There was $80,000.00 of improvements that were listed in the 1999 tax year. I just bought this house in July of '98. So I had my taxes go from $3,300.00 to $5,800.00 in one year and I know that the comparable houses, my neighbors are much lower taxes and valued higher based on, well I've got home sales from two years ago that sold for more than my house and yet their taxes are still lower than mine. They sold two years ago for more than what I paid just this last year and their taxes are lower than mine. Mayor Mancino: Well, we'll have to check those other homes... Jahn Dyvik: You know I spoke with Ann about it and I just felt like there was this inequity in my neighborhood and then seeing that nothing changed this past year as well didn't seem to say to me that they're trying to bring these values closer together. Mayor Mancino: But Jahn when your property sold, I just want to make sure we have this information right, on 7/10/98 for $261,000.00. Jahn Dyvik: 51. Mayor Mancino: We have 261, and the market. Jahn Dyvik: Well the original offer was 261 but we changed that to 251 because of, they were going to have a heated driveway put in but that didn't happen so we wrote a separate contract for that so the actual purchase price was. Mayor Mancino: Was 251. And the estimated market value that was in '98 for 1999 is $248. So your market value is lower than what you actually paid for it which is market value. Jahn Dyvik: But that limited market value I believe should have kicked in on that so that I don't get hit with an 80% or 90% increase in taxes in one year. Mayor Mancino: Okay. Councilman Senn: What was it the year before? Jahn Dyvik: $155 the year before. And what had happened was, the owner had been working on his house over a number of years but for some reason this new construction got lumped into that last year, which is inaccurate. Councilman Senn: And there was how much of new improvements under your. Jahn Dyvik: It was listed as $80,000.00 but it was closer to $30,000.00. I went over it with the builder and talked to him. I said what, we went through exactly what he did. Actually that would have been in 1997. In the year 1997. And there was about $30,000.00 of improvements made. Councilman Senn: And do you have receipts or anything to show that? Jahn Dyvik: Ah no. I just went over it with him. What he did. Mayor Mancino: There must have been permits too. Jahn Dyvik: Yeah he had some long, some permits that were outstanding for a long time. In fact I heard he had the longest running permits in Chanhassen for a while because he started this in late 80's or early 90's. Mayor Mancino: Any other questions? Jahn Dyvik: And also there's currently a couple of houses for sale, my neighbors in fact, their house is for sale for $330,000.00 and they have a contingent offer on that right now so I mean, and their taxes are lower than mine. Quite a bit lower than mine so it just seems like there's this huge inequity. Mayor Mancino: Well the tax rate would still be the same. Jahn Dyvik: Their market value is lower than mine. It's like $220 or something like that. I have the numbers here somewhere. Mayor Mancino: And they're asking $300? 330. Okay. Jahn Dyvik: And there's another house across the way that actually is lakeshore that's listed for $340 so I mean, I'm just saying that.., there would be this effort to bring these values closer together and I saw that as either reducing mine or bringing, I mean not that I want to see my neighbors taxes increase but I just feel like I'm paying too much. Mayor Mancino: Thank you. Appreciate it. We will look at that. Review that. Anyone else wishing to address the council? Keith Gunderson: Good evening Mayor, Council. Good evening. My name's Keith Gunderson, 6661 Mohawk Drive. Mayor Mancino: Number 17. Okay, Keith. Keith Gunderson: Okay I was here the last meeting I dropped off a pamphlet. I don't think I should have to read it again. Do you want me to read it again at all or? Okay. I guess we're just looking for the results of the Council's decision on what we're going to do here. Mayor Mancino: Did you also get a copy of the assessor's hand written on it? Making some notes on it. And a comparable grid for 6661 Mohawk Drive. Keith Gunderson: I never got anything. Mayor Mancino: Mr. Gerhardt, is it possible to make a copy of this so that Keith has a copy? Okay. We'll just give you a copy so that you can see it. Keith, if you want to take a few minutes to review it and see if someone else would like to come up and give you a few seconds to do that. Anyone else wishing to address the council on this? Paul Haik: I'm Paul Haik. I'm on Hidden Lane. I was here at the last one. I was told to come back to this meeting. Mayor Mancino: And we have you as appeal number 18. Paul Haik: Okay. Councilman Senn: And yours was reduced from what the assessor originally. Paul Haik: I haven't seen anything. Councilman Senn: Okay your current market value is $158,200. No let's see, sorry...value was $161,400 and the assessor's recommending to reduce it to $158,900. You didn't know that? Paul Haik: I knew that. That the $2,500.00 but that's what I still believe is inadequate. Councilman Senn: Okay. Mayor Mancino: Okay, thank you. Unless you'd like to state any reasons for that before we review it. Paul Haik: I've gone through it. I submitted it to the auditor's...about $25,000.00 repair and my home, when you have a water problem and a $25,000.00 repair, if that's not affecting my market value more than $2,500.00, is just not a valid assessment of the actual circumstances. Councilman Senn: What kind of a water problem do you have? Paul Haik: We're part of the Marvin Windows, the PPG litigation and so I'm looking at replacing all my windows because we're having leakage into the basement, master bedroom, kitchen, living room, and if I tell some buyer geez, I had a little water problem. Well what's that? Well a little water. Where? What room? This room. This room. This room. This room. It's going to be an issue. And it's going to be a lot more than $2,500.00 because the cost is, we've already gotten the bid from Justus Lumber and it's about $25,000.00. So that's just not a fair reflection to say I'm going to give you 10% of the actual cost for repair. Mayor Mancino: Okay, thank you. Councilman Labatt: How long have you lived in the house? Paul Haik: I moved in in November of '96. And I was unaware of this problem at the time where we first began experiencing the water issue saying well geez, what's the issue here and it took us a while to find out that it was Marvin and then when I finally identified the window to Marvin, I submitted the claim in '98 and then it took them about 4 to 6 months to first agree that yes, they were Marvin windows. Once I got them to agree they were Marvin Windows, their inspection team didn't come until in April, this last month and the inspection team has agreed. Yeah. Part of the PPG problem and what the issue is is the windows are all rotting out. The wood's all rotting out on it so there's no seals any longer. The water can come directly through like in today's rain, come right through the window. Mayor Mancino: Paul, do you have documentation from Marvin? Paul Haik: What I have received originally is just the materials that we submitted to them. The window stamps are and the information, I can provide that additionally to the auditor but I have submitted. Mayor Mancino: But you do have documentation from Marvin that the windows are leaking and that they will be replacing them? You do have a written? Paul Haik: They won't replace them now because Judge Montgomery has said that Marvin waited too long to sue PPG so they said on a Statute of Limitations they will not allow Marvin to proceed with the lawsuit. So Marvin has to eat all these costs and up until they got that ruling, they were dealing with it. Now it's my cost. Marvin is not going to pay for it. Mayor Mancino: Marvin will not do that, okay. Councilman Senn: Paul, what did you pay for the house in '96? Paul Haik: I paid $169. Mayor Mancino: Anyone else wishing to address the Council? Eldon Degler: I'm Eldon Degler from 6611 Mohawk Drive. And as a senior citizen I would like to... in regard to that. Thank you. Mayor Mancino: Okay, thank you Eldon. And Ann I see here that on that, on Eldon's piece you had a value of $90,300.00 and went down to $88,400 after meeting with Mr. Degler. Sorry, Bruce. Bruce Mulby: Sorry, I'm Bruce Mulby. Yeah, I had a reduction. What I did is I looked at inside the house and felt there was more physical depreciation on the home than what we had in the system and that's the reason for the reduction on that. Mayor Mancino: Okay, thank you. Anyone else? Keith, have you had a minute? Do you want to say anything to Council? Keith Gunderson: Well you guys got the same thing. What do you think here? You know I went over this last year when I was at the Council. These comparisons, like in Lake Susan Hills Drive, you know this is a brand new neighborhood. They're only a couple years old. They're 3 years, 4 years old. They've got brand new roads. Concrete sidewalks. They've got street lights. You know I don't know how you could even compare these. Mayor Mancino: You have location, location, location. Keith Gunderson: Well that's good in business, absolutely. And two out of the three comparisons 200 and 400 more square feet of finished living area. Two of them have four car garages. You know I didn't walk around and I didn't pick and choose my, this stuff last year. You know I went directly to a neighborhood that was directly related to mine as far as location, location, location. Lake Susan Hills Drive, what this gentleman here that spoke earlier, you were surprised with the Lake Susan Hills or the houses that were selling for over $300,000.00. You know these houses are appraised at $222,000.00 and they could sell for an easy 3 ½. I mean and that's what they're selling for. Mayor Mancino: Okay, any questions for Keith from Council. We'll review yours. Keith Gunderson: When are we going to get back together again? Mayor Mancino: We're going to do it tonight. We'll be right here. We're going to go through our list and make a decision and pass that onto the County Board. Because the County Board has to take all these from what we do. Keith Gunderson: Okay last year Mr. Senn you made this decision at that time. Are you going to be doing the same thing again here tonight? Mayor Mancino: Yeah, we'll be passing it Keith tonight. Yeah, we'll be going through all these and passing them and making changes as we see fit. Tonight. We wanted to wait until we had a big audience. Okay, thank you. Well let's talk about these. Can I have some discussion and a motion on those that councilmembers feel we feel comfortable going ahead and passing and those that we want to pull aside and have some discussion about. Councilman Senn: Let me, since I'm usually the one with the most, why don't I go ahead and try a list of ones to approve. If anybody has one of those that they would like to pull, let me know as I go, okay? Mayor Mancino: Okay. Councilman Senn: That we approve, I'm going to go by appeal number. Is that okay? Councilman Engel: Yes, we have the list. Councilman Senn: Would move that we approve appeal number 2. Now this is as per current recommendation because some of these recommendations were changed from the original. Mayor Mancino: Most of them were, yeah. Councilman Senn: Appeal number 2, appeal number 3, appeal number 4, appeal number 5, appeal number 6, appeal number 9, appeal number 13, appeal number 14, appeal number 19, appeal number 20, appeal number 21, appeal number 22, appeal number 24, appeal number 25, appeal number 26, appeal number 28, appeal number 29, appeal number 30, appeal number 31, appeal number 32, appeal number 35, appeal number 36, and appeal number 42. Mayor Mancino: And did you also include appeal number 33? Councilman Senn: Appeal number 33 should have been included if I didn't say that. Mayor Mancino: Okay. I would include that in the list. We're just all checking our lists. Just one second please. Okay, may I have a second to the motion? Councilwoman Jansen: Second. Mayor Mancino moved, Councilwoman Jansen seconded to approve the following market valuations as per the County Assessor's recommendations: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 9, 13, 14, 19, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 35, 36, and 42. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Mayor Mancino: Now we will go through those that were not in that group and look at each one individually and vote on them individually. Okay, number 1. Councilman Senn: I would move.., new valuation of $128,650.00 on appeal number 1. The previous year was $124,900.00. Mayor Mancino: Even though it sold on 10/30/98 for $1417 Councilman Senn: Yep. Mayor Mancino: Okay, any rationale you want to give on that one for me? Yeah. Councilman Senn: Well it's physical condition, that sort of thing. Mayor Mancino: Okay, that's your motion. Okay, is there a second to the motion? Councilwoman Jansen: I'll second. Councilman Senn moved, Councilwoman Jansen seconded to approve on appeal number 1 the market value of $128,650.00. All voted in favor except Mayor Mancino and Councilman Labatt voted in opposition and the motion carried with a vote of 3 to 2. Councilman Senn: On number 7...to $182,400.00. Mayor Mancino: What percentage increase? Councilman Senn: Percentages on all these. Councilwoman Jansen: It's again about 3. I did the same. Councilman Senn: Some are plus or minus. Mayor Mancino: Okay, is there a second? Councilman Engel: Second. Councilman Senn moved, Councilman Engel seconded to approve on appeal number 7 the market value of $182,400.00. All voted in favor and the motion carried. Councilman Senn: On number 8 I had a question because I can't get the numbers to jibe. Ann, I think this was one of yours. You had a, let's see here previous year's value was $141 then you guys came back at 141. Now this is according to your data sheet. And then reduced it to $138,600. But on the homeowner sheet it's showing different numbers. Ann Wise: Well he's looking at payable. He's looking at his tax statement. Councilman Senn: But he's looking at taxable market value which he's shown as $128 and stuff and $140 so I mean I couldn't get the numbers to come out unless his are somehow wrong but I didn't have a statement to look at. Ann Wise: Probably limited market value. You know the taxable and the limited are the same. But we still have our market value. That's what we go by but the taxable could have been less because it was a limited value. I checked. Councilman Senn: Well I would move this one as per assessor's recommendation because it was reduced anyway but I couldn't get the numbers to tie in. Mayor Mancino: I'll second that. Councilman Senn moved, Mayor Mancino seconded to approve on appeal number 8 per the Assessor's market value recommendation. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: On appeal number 10, which is... value on, I think this gentleman was here. Eldon Degler. Was at $85,200. I would move an increase to $87,500. Mayor Mancino: Okay, is there a second? I will second that. Councilman Senn moved, Mayor Mancino seconded to approve appeal number 10 at a market value of $87,500.00. All voted in favor and the motion carried. Councilman Senn: On number 11. I would move an increase from $286,900.00 to $295,500. Mayor Mancino: Is there a second? Orlin Shafer: Orlin Shafer, I'm the County Assessor. This was a commercial property. Involved in remeasuring the building itself. So part of the value change. Councilman Senn: Square footage? Orlin Shafer: Yes. Mayor Mancino: So that's why the 16% increase. Because of the square footage. Councilman Senn: Then I would move approval as per staff's recommendation then. Mayor Mancino: I'll second that. Councilman Senn moved, Mayor Mancino seconded to approve appeal number 11 at a market value per the Assessor's recommendation. All voted in favor and the motion carried. Mayor Mancino: Thank you Odin. Councilman Senn: Jahn Dyvik I believe it is. I pulled this mainly because he was here. I didn't have any definite thoughts on it one way or the other. It seems like that $248 to $248 is basically a constant but there seems to be some confusion over the improvements and the improvement value. I wish we had better information on that because I mean it's not that old a sale at $155 and then you know the years on top of that as far as a percentage in improvements. I mean I would come up more with a number around 225 just on a quick calculation that way but again not having data makes that a little difficult because there's a large span between $30,000.00 and $80,000.00 for the same improvements. I don't know, is this one we could set aside and get more information on or do we have to act tonight? Could we table this one Orlin? Orlin Shafer: You'll have to do this. Councilman Senn: We do, okay. Mayor Mancino: We have to make it tonight. Councilman Labatt: He paid $251 in July '98 for it if my number's right. Plus another $10,000.00 set aside for a driveway so. Councilwoman Jansen: I think more the question is that the neighbors are valued lower and it's going to catch up with them eventually. Mayor Mancino: I think it will. Councilman Senn: But this is the one that kind of went to the previous year that we didn't have the data in front of us and it was $155,000.00 value and my point was if you had the start of $155,000 value and $30,000 to $80,000 of new improvements, which again is a wide disparity with the number on improvements plus you add in some percentage for basically kind of like a cost of living or something like that for those years, you still don't come up near to this but I mean it's difficult to get at that without having a handle on those improvements. That's kind of where I was moving from. Mayor Mancino: No, I understand that. Councilwoman Jansen: The sale price in '98 of $251. Mayor Mancino: Yeah, I mean that's what I would go with and that's a real market value. Orlin? Orlin Shafer: I'd like to caution Councilman Senn that you cannot disregard the purchase price. $261 was the number that was paid for that property. We're at $248. The real issue here was the amount of new construction value found in the latest assessment which amounted to $80,000.00. That was the amount added that we determined the new construction added to the value. We didn't argue the purchase price. Councilman Senn: $251 not 61. Orlin Shafer: I don't care where he starts from. He paid $261. We're at $248. Mayor Mancino: Okay. Well we usually use as our guideline what the house actually sold for if it sold in the last year or two. It's a good constant and we've used it both ways. So may I have a motion? Councilwoman Jansen: I'd move we approve staff recommendation. Councilman Labatt: I'll second it. Councilwoman Jansen moved, Councilman Labatt seconded to approve appeal number 12 at the market value per the Assessor's recommendation. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: That's the 248, right? Mayor Mancino: Yep. And did you vote? Okay. You're fine with that. Unanimous. Next one. Councilman Senn: Number 15. Mark, you had a question on number 15. Councilman Engel: I was concerned, the numbers seem to disagree. There's a note from Mike that says... on April 21 of '98. When I was looking at the documentation it looked like it sold for $55,000.00 as a purchase price so I'm just confused by the documentation. Mayor Mancino: Ann, I think this was yours. Do you know, I mean in Mike's handwriting he's got that he paid $23,000. And then you've got it down as paying $55,000. Ann Wise: Well this is the Certificate of Real Estate Value that he filled out and he did pay $55,000. It included I believe special assessments. I think Orlin talked to him. I talked to him also. Mayor Mancino: Oh I see that right here. Certificate of Real Estate Value $55,000. Full purchase price, yeah. Councilman Senn: So he's taking the assessments off basically in determination. Ann Wise: Assessments were included, which is part of the market value. And he was okay with our recommendation. The 54 after Orlin talked to him. Councilman Senn: Okay. I'll go with staffs recommendation. Mayor Mancino: I'll second that. Councilman Senn moved, Mayor Mancino seconded to approve appeal number 15 at the market value per the Assessor's recommendation. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: On appeal number 16 1 would a value increase of $101,400 to $104,400. Councilwoman Jansen: That's a 3% increase. That's the same number I had noted so I'd second. Councilman Senn moved, Councilwoman Jansen seconded to approve appeal number 16 at a market value of $104,400.00. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: Number 17, I'd move a value from $186,600 to $192,200. And that's on Keith Gunderson. Councilman Labatt: Increase it how much? Councilwoman Jansen: 3%. Mayor Mancino: 3% increase. Is there a second to the motion? Councilwoman Jansen: Second. Councilman Senn moved, Councilwoman Jansen seconded to approve appeal number 17 at a market value of $192,200.00. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: On number 18 I'd move a value of $154,000.00. Since Mr. Haik is here I'll run through it real quick. That was assuming a purchase price of $169,000 plus $10,000 basically for what we would have increased normally for two years, '97 and '98. Bringing it up to $179 and then decreasing the $25,000.00 for the windows. It would bring it to $154. Councilman Engel: I'll second that. Councilman Senn moved, Councilman Engel seconded to approve appeal number 18 at a market value of $154,000. Councilman Senn and Councilman Engel voted in favor, Mayor Mancino, Councilman Labatt and Councilwoman Jansen voted in opposition. The motion failed with a vote of 2to3. Mayor Mancino: The motion doesn't carry and it stays with the value of $158,900. Councilman Senn: You have to pass a motion on that to move. Mayor Mancino: Oh, thank you. Excuse me. Then may I have a motion? That one didn't carry. This is going to be a long night tonight. I hate to tell you folks. Excuse me, may I have a new motion. Councilman Labatt: I motion staffs recommendation. Mayor Mancino: I'll second that. Councilman Labatt moved, Mayor Mancino seconded to approve appeal number 18 at a market value per the Assessor's recommendation. All voted in favor, except Councilman Senn and Councilman Engel and the motion carried with a vote of 3 to 2. Councilman Senn: Let's see here, on number 23 I'd move the value to $109,450. Councilman Labatt: What number Mark, 20? Councilman Senn: 23. $109,450. Councilwoman Jansen: That's again about 3%. Mayor Mancino: Second to the motion please. Councilwoman Jansen: Second. Councilman Senn moved, Councilwoman Jansen seconded to approve appeal number 23 at a market value of $109,450. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn moved, Councilman Engel seconded to approve appeal number 27 at a market value of $191,000. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: On appeal number 30... to $174,050. Mayor Mancino: Is there a second? Roger Knutson: Mayor? Mayor Mancino: Yes. Roger Knutson: Two out of the three of us voted that you already approved number 30. Todd Gerhardt: It was on your list. Mayor Mancino: Oh, it was on our list. It was on our list. Thank you. Councilman Senn: Let's see here. 34. From $143,300 to $147,600. Councilwoman Jansen: Second. Councilman Senn moved, Councilwoman Jansen seconded to approve appeal number 34 at a market value of $147,600. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: On appeal number 37. I'd move approval of the...to $152,850.00 on Donald Sennes first parcel. Mayor Mancino: I'm sorry from, it was previous year was $148,400 to what? Councilman Senn: $148,400 to $152,850. Mayor Mancino: May I have a second please? Councilwoman Jansen: I'll second. Councilman Senn moved, Councilwoman Jansen seconded to approve appeal number 37 at a market value of $152,850 on the first parcel. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: On Mr. Sennes second parcel I'd move approval from $54,200 to $55,800. Mayor Mancino: Is there a second? Councilman Engel: Second. Councilman Senn moved, Councilman Engel seconded to approve appeal number 37 at a market value of $55,800 for the second parcel. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: On appeal number 39. Move approval from $149,100 to $156,550. Mayor Mancino: Is there a second? Councilman Engel: Second. Councilman Senn moved, Councilman Engel seconded to approve appeal number 39 at a market value of $156,550. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: Move increase from $336,700 to $346,800. Mayor Mancino: Is there a second? Councilwoman Jansen: Can I ask a question? Mayor Mancino: Sure. Councilwoman Jansen: This one is showing purchased in '97 for $350,000. Can we go to $346? ... down to the 350. Ann Wise: Could I say something? Mayor Mancino: Yes, Ann. Ann Wise: Since he purchased the property he finished the basement. So you have to add that value on top of and that is the $16,500. So if you add that on top of what they paid for it, $353,200 seems like a very reasonable value. Councilman Senn: This was last year's appeal too wasn't it? This was appealed last year too wasn't it? Ann Wise: No. I don't think so. Mayor Mancino: I don't know. Ann Wise: I can't remember frankly. Mayor Mancino: But it was purchased for $350 and then they adjusted and finished the basement and. Councilman Senn: ... note here but I went through my last year appeals and took some information off of that so it could be. I just, I didn't write it down, sorry. Mayor Mancino: And you've made a motion. Is there any second? Okay, may I have a new motion please. Councilman Labatt: Motion to approve staffs recommendation. Mayor Mancino: Is there a second? Councilwoman Jansen: Second. Councilman Labatt moved, Councilwoman Jansen seconded to approve appeal number 40 at a market value per staff's recommendation. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Councilman Senn: On 43 I would move $145,850. Councilman Labatt: What was that again Mark? Numbers again. Councilman Senn: Make sure I'm on the right one. Councilman Engel: $145,850. Councilwoman Jansen: I'm showing in their memorandum of February 4th '98 that's attached, paid for our home was $210. Mayor Mancino: Yep, I've got that highlighted too. So the estimated market value of $208,500 is pretty good. Did you make a motion Mark? Is there a second to the motion? May I have a new motion? Councilman Labatt: Motion to approve staff's recommendation. Mayor Mancino: Second please. Councilwoman Jansen: Second. Councilman Labatt moved, Councilwoman Jansen seconded to approve appeal number 43 at a market value per the Assessor's recommendation. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Bruce Mulby: Number 41 has not been approved yet. It's not on your original list Mark and you guys need to deal with it one way or the other. Councilman Senn: Move approval of staff's recommendation. Mayor Mancino: I'll second that. Councilman Senn moved, Mayor Mancino seconded to approve appeal number 41 at a market value per the Assessor's recommendation. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously. Mayor Mancino: Thank you very much. And now we're going to close the meeting. No. Quite seriously, the next item on the agenda under unfinished business is, oh sorry. Paul. Paul Haik: Paul Haik. Brief question. How, if I'm dissatisfied with the vote taken today can I effect an appeal? Mayor Mancino: Orlin will tell you right now. Orlin Shafer: We will be sending a letter out to everyone that appealed telling them the Council's action and explaining the next level of the County Board of Equalization. Paul Haik: Okay, when is that? Orlin Shafer: June 17th. Paul Haik: And that letter comes out? Orlin Shafer: It will be out within two weeks. Mayor Mancino: It's June 17th and it's at the Carver County Courthouse in Chaska. Todd Gerhardt: Orlin, doesn't that start in the middle of the afternoon? Orlin Shafer: It starts at 9:00 in the morning. There's instructions in the letter but please call into the Auditor's office prior to the Thursday before that. Or Tuesday before that to get on their agenda. They operate with a rigid agenda. And you can only go there if you've appealed here. Paul Haik: I have. Orlin Shafer: Yes. Mayor Mancino: Now when you say you do a rigid agenda, does that mean you have everybody on a time slot? Orlin Shafer: Yes. And they will not move that time unless somebody is here on the tail end that can move up and adequately supply. I think we need a motion to adjourn the Board of Review. Mayor Mancino: Okay, may I have that motion please and a second? Councilman Senn moved, Councilman Engel seconded to adjourn the Board of Equalization and Review. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously.