08-08-2022 City Council Work Session MinutesCHANHASSEN CITY COUNCIL
WORK SESSION
MINUTES
AUGUST 8, 2022
COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Mayor Ryan, Councilman Campion, Councilwoman
Rehm, and Councilwoman Schubert.
COUNCIL MEMBERS ABSENT: Councilman McDonald.
STAFF PRESENT: Laurie Hokkanen, City Manager; Charlie Howley, City Engineer/Public
Works Director; Erik Henricksen, Project Engineer; George Bender, Assistant City Engineer;
Charlie Burke, Operations Manager; Kate Aanenson, Community Development Director; Bob
Generous, Senior Planner; Stacy Osen, Engineering Support Specialist; Ari Lyksett,
Communications Manager; MacKenzie Young-Walters, Associate Planner; and Kim Meuwissen,
City Clerk.
PUBLIC PRESENT: None.
Mayor Ryan called the Work Session to order at 5:30 p.m.
TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE (TSC) PRESENTATION
Project Engineer Erik Henricksen provided an overview of the Traffic Safety Committee (TSC)
presentation, including introducing committee members, providing a recap of the past year’s
cases, reviewing the crosswalk policy, and answering questions. Meetings are held monthly from
1:30-3:00 pm.
Mr. Henricksen provided an annual review of the cases received from August 2021 through July
2022. There were a total of 65 cases, 50 of which were closed after TSC evaluation. The
remaining 15 cases are still open because they are either linked to a capital improvement project
or pending a policy, i.e. the Crosswalk Policy. The most frequent cases were crosswalks and
pedestrians (30%), signage (29%), speeding (26%), and other concerns (15%). Case impacts
prompted the development of the City’s first crosswalk policy, promoting the SeeClickFix
request function on the City’s website, “Slow Down, Please” educational campaign regarding
speeding, signage assessments, and speed trailer deployment.
Mr. Henricksen provided a status update of the Crosswalk Policy currently being developed by
the TSC. The Crosswalk Policy must provide enhancement to overall safety, establish a
consistent and effective methodology for evaluating if improvements are warranted (Local
guidelines-MN MUTCD, Federal guidelines-FHWA, sound engineering practice and judgement-
studies and industry best practices, and meet the needs and mission of Chanhassen), and establish
the appropriate counter measures to install when improvements are warranted (markings and
signage, geometric improvements, RRFB, HAWK beacons, grade-separated crossing). The
Crosswalk Policy is nearly complete and will be presented for City Council evaluation and
approval on an upcoming agenda.
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Mayor Ryan thanked the TSC members for being a part of the committee and providing a great
presentation, tying it to the City’s strategic priorities. Councilman Campion asked if there was a
case where a stop sign was requested and then installed. Mr. Henricksen responded that there
have been stop signs requested in order to reduce speed; however, stop signs are not warranted
for speed control. The TSC reviews this type of case from all angles and performs an evaluation;
however, education is promoted and other options are explored, such as the educational
campaign. In summary, the TSC has not installed any stop signs for speed control. Councilman
Campion asked about neighborhood requests to install permanent speed limit display signs and
who pays for it. Assistant City Engineer George Bender noted that Minnetonka Middle School
West installed a speed sign at their entrance on Highway 41. Operations Manager Charlie Burke
confirmed that a sign was installed within the road right-of-way in the Longacres neighborhood
and was paid for and is maintained by the Homeowners Association. Public Works Director/City
Engineer Charlie Howley added that an encroachment agreement is required when any private
improvement is installed in public right-of-way. Mr. Burke also referenced the crosswalk at
IWCO and Powers Boulevard and that it was privately installed. Mr. Henricksen added that the
TSC has not received any requests for these types of private improvements.
Councilwoman Rehm asked about educational campaigns in response to requests to lower speed
(20 mph) in neighborhoods. Mr. Henricksen responded that neighborhood educational postcard
campaigns are recommended for these types of requests. Mr. Howley added that we cannot just
lower a speed limit if someone asks as that type of request needs evaluation and formal council
approval. Staff needs council direction on any request for speed limit reduction; however,
consistency must be maintained. Councilwoman Rehm asked if the postcard campaign helped
reduce neighborhood speeds. Mr. Henricksen responded that there was no neighborhood
feedback. Mr. Bender added that committee members were not receiving any feedback. There
are also residents who do not want speeds reduced but we typically don’t hear from them. When
speed studies have been conducted the data returned resoundingly indicates that the speed limit is
within the 85th percentile, where typical drivers are driving within the 25-30 mph range.
Councilwoman Schubert asked if speed reduction requests were higher from neighborhoods
without sidewalks. Mr. Bender mentioned the only neighborhood without sidewalks that he has
heard from is Timberwood Estates. Councilwoman Rehm added that 20 mph is pretty slow and is
curious if there are any studies on this topic. Mr. Howley responded that there currently are not
enough metrics to show any data but should become available within the next five years. Mr.
Burke added that Pleasant View Road is the only street in Chanhassen signed at 25 mph but there
are still a lot of challenges related to speeding. Mr. Bender added that all states adjoining
Minnesota all have 25 mph speed limits. Councilwoman Rehm asked about installing a
crosswalk on Kerber Boulevard at the Byerly’s entrance across from the Library. Mr. Henricksen
responded that there is an improved intersection within 500 feet from the crossing that meets the
warrants with a traffic signal and a push button for walkers. Mr. Howley mentioned it could be
updated with the possible addition of a new Civic Campus. Councilwoman Schubert asked how
we handle requests on County and State roads. Mr. Henricksen replied that the City can’t make
any improvements on these roadways but can advocate the County and State for an improvement
if it is warranted. Councilwoman Schubert asked about the Lyman Boulevard and Audubon
Boulevard north intersection being upgraded with signals or a roundabout instead of a stop sign.
Mr. Henricksen responded that this is an intersection of two County roads. Mr. Bender added
that the Avienda development has not been flagged by the County for further impacts; however,
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we will notify the County of these concerns. Mayor Ryan asked what happens when residents are
not satisfied with the results/response to their request. Mr. Henricksen stated that the TSC
continually evaluates reoccurring requests. The best option is to provide education on how a
decision/solution was made. Mayor Ryan asked how many cases received by the TSC have
constituted a change or fulfilled their request. Mr. Henricksen responded that is something that
could be provided. Mr. Howley added that we currently don’t garner or receive feedback on
requests. Mayor Ryan would like to know if any solutions created a change or impact. Mr.
Henricksen stated they adhere to best practices and promoting safety when it comes to specialty
sign requests. The TSC is not the end all and requests can be appealed to the City Council. Mr.
Howley added that we haven’t had a case that has escalated to the that level. Councilman
Campion asked about the Great Plains Boulevard intersection at West 79th Street. Mr. Howley
responded that a meeting was held two weeks ago to review this intersection to create a quick
and inexpensive interim solution and that Mr. Henricksen is working on drawing something up.
Mayor Ryan thanked the TSC on their progress and communication.
DISCUSS REGULATION AND LICENSING SHORT-TERM RENTALS
Associate Planner MacKenzie Young-Walters presented this item. A meeting was held with a
vendor who offers software to assist with the regulation of short-term rentals and they provided
data on current short-term rentals in the City. As of July 29, the data showed there were 37 active
short-term rental units in the City. Staff suspects some of these properties may have been listed
once just for the Ryder Cup and that the owner never removed the listing. The average rental
price was $468 per night, 85% were entire single-family homes and 15% were multi-family
properties (condos/townhomes). Of the single-family homes, 95% are entire-home rentals. If
there are actually 37 rental units in the City, the cost would be revenue neutral. The benefit of
using the vendor is they have a program that identifies these units which would allow the City to
proactively reach out before any problems arise. They also provide a 24-hour hotline where
complaints can be logged and responded to. The other option would be in-house licensing and
enforcement which would put us in a more reactive posture. We would receive complaints,
contact the owner to follow up, and work through the citation and court process for compliance.
After-hours noise complaints would be handled by the Sheriff’s Deputies. Mr. Walters provided
pros and cons for processing internally, which is the lowest cost option. Community
Development Director Kate Aanenson added that the City receives very few complaints. The
biggest con for internal processing would be difficulties with after-hours enforcement. Also, the
City cannot proactively identify rental properties, whereas, an outside vendor would provide a
contact list for every rental property in the City. Mr. Young-Walters also surveyed peer cities as
shown in the staff report for this item.
Councilwoman Schubert asked if there were less than 37 properties, what would the annual cost
be to go through the third party. Mr. Young-Walters responded that it would depend on what
modules we choose. If we went with address identification and the hotline, $3,100 was the
lowest fee. Ms. Aanenson restated that it is highly probable that the number of rental properties
may be less than 37. Mayor Ryan’s concern is that doing nothing is not a responsible solution.
Ms. Hokkanen added we could adopt an ordinance to require the licensing internally and add the
software at a later date. The ordinance would require short-term rental licensing and implement
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performance standards and a three-strikes policy. Mayor Ryan asked about the licensing fees in
comparison with other communities. Mr. Young-Walters responded that fees were all over the
place. The vendor’s standard is one night’s rental fee. Councilman Campion thinks we should do
something, and that the vendor cost seems reasonable as opposed to internal review, processing
and enforcement. Councilwoman Rehm agreed and would like something that is sustainable and
not add additional future work for Staff. Councilwoman Schubert also agreed that we should
move forward with using a vendor. Ms. Hokkanen suggested the license fee be set at the higher
end. Following Council discussion, Mayor Ryan asked staff to go ahead and move forward with
an ordinance. Ms. Aanenson responded that they would put the ordinance on an upcoming
Planning Commission agenda.
Mayor Ryan recessed the Work Session at 6:52 p.m.
Mayor Ryan resumed the Work Session at 7:10 p.m
TETRHYDROCANNABINOL (THC) LAW DISCUSSION
Ms. Hokkanen introduced this item for discussion but said the City Council may direct staff to
take future action. At this time, there are no answers to most questions. There are three options
the Council could consider:
• Institute up to a 12-month moratorium to stop sales at new outlets until the City takes a
zoning-related action. This will only stop sales at new outlets but not apply to the three
tobacco shops in Chanhassen that already carry the product. The moratorium would apply
only to any other retailers who wish to sell the product.
• Create a licensing program. Currently the City does not license tobacco; Carver County
Public Health is the licensing agent in Carver County. Many cities are viewing tobacco
licensing as a parallel and trying to use a similar process and inspection methods. Ms.
Hokkanen spoke with the Carver County Sheriff’s Office (CCSO) and the County
Administrator and they are in a wait-and-see mode and currently not planning to do
anything.
• The third option is to wait and see. The Legislature may provide additional clarification,
however, the timing is unknown.
Mayor Ryan mentioned that there is controversy among municipalities in deciding their
approach. She spoke with the Sheriff and Carver County is choosing to wait and see. The CCSO
would be willing to provide enforcement if we decided to create a licensing program.
Councilwoman Rehm asked for clarification as to why there is controversy among municipalities
to institute a moratorium. Ms. Hokkanen responded that there is a lack of clarity on if this meets
the intended purpose and authority of what a moratorium is for. Also, what is the point of a
moratorium if there are outlets already selling product. Ms. Hokkanen referenced the publication
provided by the League of Minnesota Cities (LMC) attached to the staff report for this item and
that the City Attorney’s office does not agree with every interpretation made by the LMC. The
genesis of this bill was that the Delta 8 gummies (a different strain of THC) was completely
unregulated through the 2018/2019 farm bill. As a result, they were trying to reduce the dosages
of these gummies. Councilman Campion suggested that the Council do nothing and wait for
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some clarity. Councilwoman Schubert would also prefer to wait and see. Councilwoman Rehm is
okay with waiting as there is too much unknown at this time. Councilman Campion said if our
neighboring cities haven’t instituted a moratorium, there is no reason why Chanhassen should.
Ms. Hokkanen responded that the City of Prior Lake has. Councilwoman Schubert asked if law
enforcement would be conducting compliance checks. Ms. Hokkanen responded that the CCSO
does not routinely conduct THC compliance checks but will perform compliance checks if we
request it.
DISCUSS ELIMINATING SOLICITOR LICENSING
Ms. Aanenson reviewed the abandonment trial process conducted by City Staff for determining
the need to continue licensing solicitors. The current licensing process was reviewed to
determine if it was still relevant. Currently, the City performs background checks and processing
these can be timely. Out-of-state background checks are very limited. Additionally, staff needs to
photograph each solicitor and create individual badges. There are also enforcement limitations.
The outcome of the abandonment trial was to remove licensing requirements as they are no
longer valid and are labor intensive for staff. The alternative would be to provide a public
education campaign and provide residents with No Solicitor window clings. Ms. Aanenson
completed her presentation and asked for Council direction.
Councilwoman Schubert observes solicitor complaints on NextDoor and has concerns how
residents would react if solicitor licensing were eliminated since residents seem to be aware that
solicitors are required to wear a city-issued identification badge. Ms. Hokkanen responded that
this is one of the reasons we want to eliminate solicitor licensing because not every solicitor is
required to be licensed by the City i.e., charitable, religious, and non-profit or political
organizations. Ms. Aanenson reiterated that we want to provide a resident education campaign
regarding solicitors. Councilwoman Rehm thinks people will not like it if they take away
solicitor licensing and asked if an education campaign or maybe a FlashVote be done first.
People like the perception that the City is taking care of solicitors. Ms. Hokkanen’s concern is
that this provides a false sense of protection for residents. Councilman Campion stated that he
was indifferent and that there were valid points on both sides. Councilwoman Schubert liked the
idea of communicating to and re-educating the residents on the process before abandonment.
Mayor Ryan was not in favor of eliminating solicitor licensing and believes that it provides
residents some sense of security. Councilwoman Rehm is comforted if a solicitor comes to her
door wearing a city badge and knows the City is aware that they are out in the community.
Licensing aside, Ms. Aanenson asked if Council would still like staff to consider an education
campaign. Council concurred. Mayor Ryan said we could provide education and reconsider
abandoning solicitor licensing at a later date.
CITY COUNCIL ROUNDTABLE
Councilwoman Schubert asked about panhandlers. Ms. Hokkanen responded that panhandlers
are protected by the constitution and the City is extremely limited in its ability to address
panhandling complaints. If panhandlers are not blocking the roadway or causing some other
hazard there is nothing that can legally be done to prevent panhandling activity. The US Supreme
Court has ruled that panhandling is protected under the first amendment’s protection of speech.
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The City could provide this information on the website and social media outlets to educate the
public. Mayor Ryan suggested that communication and education be provided to public.
Councilman Campion suggested that maybe law enforcement could hand out pamphlets to
panhandlers with alternative resources and available services.
Mayor Ryan asked Council about pursuing lowering of the speed limit from 30 mph to 25 mph?
Councilman Campion thought it would be good FlashVote option. Councilwoman Rehm wanted
to know if Victoria’s speed limit changes have made any impact. All agreed lowering the speed
limit should be addressed at a future work session.
Ms. Hokkanen reviewed upcoming dates:
• Civic Campus Design Workshop is scheduled for Tuesday, September 13. All City
Council and Commission members will be invited.
• Lake Ann Park Preserve Master Plan Open House: Tuesday, September 27 hosted by the
Park & Recreation Commission.
• Avienda Neighborhood Meeting with Developer: Thursday, August 11.
Mayor Ryan asked if there was about the attendance at the Galpin Boulevard open house. Mr.
Howley reported that there were 46 attendees at the two-hour open house. Everybody got to
speak and engaged staff the entire time. Ms. Hokkanen showed Council the Galpin Boulevard
web page feedback feature provided by WSB. Mr. Howley said construction will start this year
and the project will most likely take two years to complete as the timeline is driven by private
utility locations.
FUTURE WORK SESSION SCHEDULE
August 22: 2023 Budget Overview and Initial CIP Discussion
September 12: Preliminary Levy Discussion
October 24: General Fund & Property Supported Funds Discussion
November 14: CIP, Debt & Utility Rate Study Discussion
The work session adjourned at 8:01 p.m.
Submitted by Laurie Hokkanen
City Manager
Prepared by Kim Meuwissen
City Clerk