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b e c o n s i d e r e d a s o n e m o t i o n . T h e r e w ill b e n o s e p a r a t e d i s c u ss i o n o f t h e s e i t e m s . I f d i s c u ss i o n i s
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- C i t y C o u n c il W o r k S e ss i o n M i n u t e s d a t e d J u l y 28 , 2008
- C i t y C o u n c il S u mm a r y M i n u t e s d a t e d J u l y 28 , 2008
- C i t y C o u n c il V e r b a t im M i n u t e s d a t e d J u l y 28 , 2008
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- P l a nn i n g C o mmi ss i o n S u mm a r y M i n u t e s d a t e d J u l y 15 , 2008
- P l a nn i n g C o mmi ss i o n V e r b a t im M i n u t e s d a t e d J u l y 15 , 2008
- P a r k & R ec r ea t i o n C o mmi ss i o n S u mm a r y M i n u t e s d a t e d M a y 28 , 2008
b . A pp r o v e E n g i n ee r i n g C o n s u l t a n t C o n t r ac t f o r D o w n t o w n T r a n s i t S t a t i o n S i t e
I m p r o v e m e n t s .
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C o n s t r u c t i o n .
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a v a il a b l e a f t e r 2 :00 p .m . o n T h u r s d a y . P l ea s e c o n t ac t c i t y h a ll a t 952 -227 -1100 t o v e r i f y t h a t
y o u r i t e m h a s n o t b ee n d e l e t e d f r o m t h e a g e n d a a n y t im e a f t e r 2 :00 p .m . o n T h u r s d a y .
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We l c o m e t o t h e C h a nh a ss e n C it y C o u n c il M ee ti n g . I n t h e i n t e r e s t of o p e n c o mm u n i c ati o n s , t h e C h a nh a ss e n C it y
C o u n c il w i s h e s t o p r ov i d e a n o pp o r t u n it y fo r t h e pu b li c t o a dd r e ss t h e C it y C o u n c il . T h at o pp o r t u n it y i s p r ov i d e d
at e v e r y r e gu la r C it y C o u n c il m ee ti n g du r i n g V i s it o r P r e s e n t a ti o ns .
1. A n y o n e i n d i c ati n g a d e s i r e t o s p e a k du r i n g V i s it o r P r e s e n tati o n s w ill b e a c k n o w l e dg e d b y t h e M a y o r .
W h e n c all e d up o n t o s p e a k , s tat e y o u r n am e , a dd r e ss , a n d t o p i c . A ll r e ma r k s s h all b e a dd r e ss e d t o t h e
C it y C o u n c il a s a w h o l e , n o t t o a n y s p ec i f i c m e m b e r (s ) o r t o a n y p e r s o n w h o i s n o t a m e m b e r of t h e C it y
C o u n c il .
2. I f t h e r e a r e a n u m b e r of i n d i v i du al s p r e s e n t t o s p e a k o n t h e s am e t o p i c , p l e a s e d e s i g n at e a s p o k e s p e r s o n
t h at c a n s u mma r iz e t h e i ss u e .
3. L imit y o u r c o mm e n t s t o f i v e mi n u t e s . A dd iti o n al tim e ma y b e g r a n t e d at t h e d i s c r e ti o n of t h e M a y o r . I f
y o u h a v e w r itt e n c o mm e n t s , p r ov i d e a c o p y t o t h e C o u n c il .
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4. D u r i n g V i s it o r P r e s e n tati o n s , t h e C o u n c il a n d s ta ff li s t e n t o c o mm e n t s a n d w ill n o t e n g a g e i n d i s c u ss i o n .
C o u n c il m e m b e r s o r t h e C it y M a n a g e r ma y a s k qu e s ti o n s of y o u i n o r d e r t o g ai n a t h o r o ug h
u n d e r s ta n d i n g of y o u r c o n ce rn , s ugg e s ti o n o r r e qu e s t .
5. P l e a s e b e a w a r e t h at d i s r e s p ec t f u l c o mm e n t s o r c o mm e n t s of a p e r s o n al n at u r e , d i r ec t e d at a n i n d i v i du al
e it h e r b y n am e o r i n f e r e n ce , w ill n o t b e all o w e d . P e r s o nn e l c o n ce rn s s h o u l d b e d i r ec t e d t o t h e C it y
M a n a g e r .
M em b e r s o f t h e C it y C o u n c il a nd s o me s t a ff mem b e r s m a y g a t h e r a t H o u li h a n ’s R e s t a u r a n t & B a r , 530 P ond P r o me n a d e i n C h a nh a ss e n i mme d i a t e l y
a f t e r t h e mee ti ng f o r a p u r e l y s o c i a l e v e n t. A ll mem b e r s o f t h e p u b li c a r e w e l c o me .
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
A
MEMORANDUM
TO Mayor City Council Members
t t Greg Sticha Finance Director
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August 11 2008
FROM
DA TE
SUBJ Financing Resident s Share of Street Reconstruction Costs
Funding Public Works Facility
BACKGROUND
The City has a policy of using the Revolving Assessment Construction Fund
RACF to finance residents portions of assessed street reconstruction costs In
2007 the City Council requested that this policy be re evaluated and staff
included it as a KFS goal for 2008 Staff review and discussion of the RACF
with our financial advisors Ehlers Associates has yielded the following
information
Current market conditions indicate that the city could issue debt for between
4 5 depending on the exact timing and amount of the issuance Typically
these residential share issuances are smaller in size around 1 million per
year or 2 million on an every other year basis and the rate we would receive
would be slightly higher than if we were to issue larger amounts of debt
Currently the city is investing its reserves at a rate of return near 3 Should
bond interest rates continue to be higher than available investment rates the City
would face some negative arbitrage earnings cost in both the construction
and debt service funds of these related projects
In addition the current assessment rate is 6 and assuming bond rates of 4 5
and investment rates of 3 it makes more sense to use the RACF to earn that
additional rate of return rather than using borrowed funds Also there are
additional costs associated with bond financing such as issuance costs fees and
underwriting costs staff time in arranging the issuance making debt service
payments and arbitrage rebate reporting Current projections indicate a positive
cash flow position for the RACF for all future years This projection includes
bonding for a public works facility and improvements to Audubon Road
Therefore based on the information listed above it is staff s recommendation to
continue financing the residential share of assessments with the RACF and
bonding for state aid routes like Audubon Road This position should be
Chanhassen is a Community for life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 4
Mayor City Council
August 11 2008
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reconsidered if market conditions change or if the RACF were to run into a
negative cash flow position
In addition Ehlers Associates has helped us put together a cost benefit
analysis that compares financing the residential share of these costs with the
RACF versus bond financing under the current market conditions see
Attachment 3
We will also be discussing the financing options available for the Public Works
Facility Staff s recommendation to finance the Public Works facility would be
to issue General Obligation CIP Bonds At the work session on Monday night
staff will discuss the requirements involved in issuing this type of debt and other
options available to finance the Public Works Facility The anticipated bond
sale date for financing the facility will be the middle of October 2008
ATTACHMENT
1 RACF projection worksheet
2 2008 2025 Debt Levies
3 Example Financing Bonding Scenario
4 Estimated Public Works Bonding Schedule
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Preliminary For Discussion Purposes Only
City of Chanhassen MN
Proposed G O Bonds Public Works Building
Bond Information
Dated Date
1 st Interest Pymt
1 st Principal Pymt
4 1 2009
2 1 2010
2 1 2011
7 420 000
7 420 000
Total Underwriter s Discount 1 200
Costs of Issuance
Deposit to Capitalized Interest CIF Fund
Deposit to Project Construction Fund
Rounding Amount
Total Uses
89 040
45 000
282 754
7 000 000
3 206
7 420 000
Average Coupon
TIC
4 7958
4 9014
Levy Collect Payment
Year Year Date
Cap
Interest
Net
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P I
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City
Levy
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2 1 2010
2 1 2011
2 1 2012
2 1 2013
2 1 2014
2 1 2015
2 1 2016
2 1 2017
2 1 2018
2 1 2019
2 1 2020
2 1 2021
2 1 2022
2 1 2023
2008 2009
2009 2010
2010 2011
2011 2012
2012 2013
2013 2014
2014 2015
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2015 2016
2016 2017
2017 2018
2018 2019
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2019 2020
2020 2021
2021 2022
2022 2023
2023 2024
2024 2025
2025 2026
2026 2027
m nu
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2028 2029
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584 185
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582 633
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613 575
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4 90 126 898
4 95 104 358
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2 1 2028
2 1 2029
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City of Chanhassen Minnesota
Cost Benefit Estimate for RACF versus Bond Financing
August 4 2008
Scenario 1 Current Market Conditions
Scenario Assumptions
Total Street Project Costs 2 Years
Residential Assessment
Residential Assessments
Bond Project Fund
Bond Costs of Issuance
Total Bond Par Amount
Upfront Ongoing City Staff Costs pv
Ongoing Bond Paying Agent pv
Ongoing Arbitrage Rebate Reports pv
Total Non COI Bond Costs
Average Bond Interest Rate
Average Assessment Rate
Average City Invest Rate
Assessment Bond Terms
Assess Bond Average Life
Project Fund Average Life
Cost Benefit with RACF
Assessment Interest Earnings
less Foregone RACF Invest Earnings
Net Benefit Cost
Cost Benefit with Bonds
Assessment Interest Earnings
plus RACF Investment Earnings
less Bond Interest Expense
less Bond Costs of Issuance
less Non COI Bond Costs
less Project Fund Neg Arbitrage
less Assessment Fund Neg Arbitrage
Net Benefit Cost
2 500 000
40
1 000 000
1 000 000
26 000
1 026 000
15 000
3 450
5 750
24 200
4 25
6 00
2 75
8 00
4 50
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270 000
123 750
146 250
270 000
123 750
196 223
26 000
24 200
7 500
3 750
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years
years
months
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1 M 2 75 4 5 years
1 M 6 4 5 years
see Note 1 below
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see above
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see Note 2 below
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If City spends these funds the Net Benefit of the Bond scenario drops by as much as 123 750
The amount depends on how much the City benefits from being able to use 1 M now versus at a future date
Note 2 Assumes 10 of 1 M assessment is repaid to the City after bonds are sold but before the bond call date
and that the City must invest these revenues at a rate lower than the bond rate
Prepared by Ehlers and Associates 8 4 2008
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
B
MEMORANDUM
TO Mayor City Council Members
Greg Sticha Finance Director Gt
Ol
FROM
DATE August 11 2008
SUBJ 2009 Budget Tax Levy Discussion
BACKGROUND
Tonight we will be discussing the preliminary requests for the 2009 budget At
this time staff included the following estimates in preparing the 2009 budget
based on information and experience from prior years This information is
intended to help guide us in the budget process
New Construction for 2009 is estimated by Carver County to be 2 45
The CPI cost of living for 2008 compared to last year is 4 0
We have included maximum wage adjustments in the budget of 4 0
We estimated healthcare costs to increase 25
These are some of the general estimates we used in the budget process We can
discuss each of those estimates in more detail at the work session meeting
Listed below is a summary of the significant changes from the prior year in
expenditures and revenues Individual department budget discussions will occur
in October and November where we will discuss each department s budget in
detail
Expenditures
The preliminary 2009 budgeted expenditures include an increase of 640 800
which is 6 88 higher than the previous year Of that increase 306 700 is for
increased wages and benefits to general fund employees 119 400 is for an
increase in the police services contract 170 000 is for increased utility and fuel
costs That totals 596 100 of the 640 800 increase
Revenues
For 2009 we are anticipating total general fund revenues to be 542 200 or
5 8 higher than 2008 budgeted revenues The majority of revenues are
projected to remain relatively flat from the prior year As council is well aware
permit revenue projections are totally dependent on development With the
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 10
Mayor City Council
August 11 2008
Page 2
downturn in the market for residential development staff is projecting permit
revenue to be the same as the previous year even with a 3 increase in the fees
for permits We have not increased our permit charges since 1997 and with this
increase we are still either competitive or lower than the communities in our
area
For the first time in a number of years we are budgeting to receive the Market
Value Homestead Credit from the state It is in place under current statutes and
we are anticipating receiving about 120 000 in 2008 and around 100 000 in
2009 Keep in mind this line item is dependent on the legislature and it is
possible that they could eliminate this credit if thete is a state deficit next spring
We are also adjusting our budgeted allowance for the delinquent property tax
line item to be more in line with actual delinquency collections This resulted in
about another 100 000 in available budgeted tax revenues
The majority of the remaining increased revenues are generated from property
taxes In 2009 the county is projecting new construction of 2 45 which
results in 241 000 of additional revenues In order to present a balanced budget
in the general fund we would need 98 600 more than the 241 000 in property
tax revenues generated from new growth
Tax Levy
The requested general fund budget and all other levies result in an increase in
total tax levy dollars of 339 600 or 3 45 The effect of this levy on the
average homeowner would be an increase of approximately 5 to 1 or
between 4 and 7 on a home valued at 330 600
It is also important to note that this budget and levy keeps all current services in
place and allows for the addition of 1 75 FTE police officers and funds all
anticipated increases in utility and fuel costs we are projecting for 2009
ATTACHMENTS
1 General Fund Revenues
2 General Fund Expenditures
3 Tax Levy Impact
4 2008 2025 Debt Levies
5 Key Financial Strategies General Fund Projections
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
2009 BUDGET
REVENUE
101 General Fund
2007 2008 2008 2009 Inc Over
ACCOUNT DESCRIPTION ACTUAL BUDGET PROJECTED BUDGET PY Budget
GENERAL PROPERTY TAX
3010 Current Property Tax 6 284 318 6 833 900 6 833 900 7 173 500 5 0
3002 Allowance for Delinquent Taxes 320 000 270 000 270 000
3011 Delinquent Property Tax 101 113 50 000 100 000 100 000
3041 MVHC 162 052 120 000 100 000
3090 Other Property Taxes
3500 Local Government Aid
TOTAL GENERAL PROPERTY TAX 6 547 483 6 563 900 6 783 900 7 103 500 8 2
LICENSES
3203 Dog Kennel 897 500 500 800
3205 Dog or Cat 6 598 5 000 5 000 6 000
3213 Solicitor 375 500 500 500
3226 Liquor On and Off Sale 84 930 84 000 84 000 84 000
3230 Rental Housing Licenses 34 100 15 000 15 000 30 000
3284 Rubbish 5 100 3 000 3 000 5 000
TOTAL LICENSES 132 000 108 000 108 000 126 300 16 9
PERMITS
3301 Building 734 822 725 000 725 000 725 000
3302 Plan Check 408 063 330 000 330 000 330 000
3305 Heating NC 202 748 120 000 120 000 120 000
3306 Plumbing 139 729 95 000 95 000 95 000
3307 Trenching 26 126 35 000 35 000 30 000
3308 Gun 660 1 000 1 000 1 000
3309 Sprinkler 19 718 14 000 14 000 14 000
3311 Sign 8 850 7 500 7 500 7 500
3320 Stable 190 300 300 300
3330 Elec Permit App Forms 36
3331 Firework s Application Fee 400
3390 Misc Permits 1 865 2 000 2 000 2 000
TOTAL PERMITS 1 543 207 1 329 800 1 329 800 1 324 800 0 4
FINES PENALTIES
3401 Traffic Ordinance Violation 133 391 150 000 150 000 150 000
3402 Vehicle Lockouts 2 100 2 500 2 500 2 500
3404 Dog Cat Impound 6 080 5 000 5 000 6 000
3405 Other Fines and Penalties 4 111
TOTAL FINES PENALTIES 145 682 157 500 157 500 158 500 0 6
INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE
3503 Reimbursement from School District 25 000
3509 Other Shared Taxes 155 661 175 000 175 000 160 000
3510 Grants State 85 970 50 000 50 000 80 000
TOTAL INTERGOVERNMENTAL REV 241 630 225 000 225 000 265 000 17 8
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
2009 BUDGET
REVENUE
101 General Fund
2007 2008 2008 2009 Inc Over
ACCOUNT DESCRIPTION ACTUAL BUDGET PROJECTED BUDGET PY Budget
CHARGES FOR CURRENT SERVICES
3601 Sale of Documents 744 1 000 1 000 1 000
3602 Use Variance Permits 22 715 40 000 40 000 22 000
3603 Rezoning Fees 2 000 2 000 2 000
3604 Assessment Searches 855 500 500 500
3605 Plat Recording Fees 5 225 7 000 7 000 7 000
3607 Election Filing Fees
3613 Misc General Government 4 909 10 000 10 000 5 000
3614 Admin Charge 2 Constr 21 110 50 000 50 000 25 000
3615 Admin Charge 5 Street Re Constr 32 000 32 000 24 000
3617 Engineering General 15 1 000 1 000
3619 Investment Management Fee 75 000 75 000 75 000 75 000
3629 Misc Public Safety 6 129 5 000 5 000 6 000
3630 Recreation Program Fees 30 807 38 100 38 1 00 40 000
3631 Recreation Center 129 830 180 000 180 000 196 000
3633 Park Equipment Rental 97 200 200 200
3634 Park Facility Usage Fee 9 578 12 000 12 000 14 000
3635 Watercraft Rental 3 446 4 000 4 000 4 000
3636 Self Supporting Programs 153 615 114 000 114 000 105 000
3637 Senior Programs 28 862 30 000 30 000 28 000
3638 Food Concessions 13 715 12 000 12 000 12 000
3639 Misc Park Rec 900 800 800 800
3641 Youth Sport Donation
3649 Misc Public Works 2 700 5 000 5 000 5 000
3651 Merchandise Sales 953 1 500 1 500 1 500
3670 Internment Fee 150
TOTAL CURRENT SERVICES 511 355 621 100 621 100 574 000 7 6
OTHER REVENUE
3801 Interest Earnings 250 462 125 000 125 000 200 000
3802 Equipment Rental Sale 134 152 125 000 125 000 135 000
3803 Building Rental 4 643 4 000
3804 Land Sale 4 600
3807 Donations 22 761 20 000 20 000 20 000
3808 Ins Recoveries Reimburse 5 000 5 000 5 000
3812 Contractor Verification 5
3816 SAC Retainer 160 546 5 000 5 000 5 000
3818 Sur Tax Retainer 1 137 1 500 1 500 1 500
3820 Misc Other Revenue 180 1 000 1 000 1 000
3829 I nterestlPenalties Other 500 500 500
3903 Refunds Reimbursements 39 248 30 000 30 000 35 000
3910 Misc Revenue 583
3980 Cash Short Over 3
TOTAL OTHER REVENUE 618 320 313 000 313 000 407 000 30 0
TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUE 9 739 678 9 318 300 9 538 300 9 959 100 6 9
TOTAL GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES 9 959 100
NET LEVY REMAINING Use of Gen Fund Reserves
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GENERAL GOVERNMENT
1110 Legislative
1120 Administration
1130 Finance
1140 Legal
1150 Assessing
1160 MIS
1170 City Hall
1180 Elections
1190 Library Building
TOTAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT
1210 Law Enforcement
1220 Fire
1250 Building Inspection
1260 CSO
TOTAL
PUBLIC WORKS
1310 Engineering
1320 Street Maintenance
1350 Street Lighting
1370 Vehicle Maintenance
TOTAL
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
1410 Planning Commission
1420 Planning Administration
1430 Senior Commission
TOTAL
PARKS RECREATION
1510 Park Rec Commission
1520 Park Administration
1530 Recreation Center
1540 Lake Ann
1550 Park Maintenance
1560 Senior Center
1600 Recreation Programs
1700 Self Supporting Programs
TOTAL
Total Operational Expenditures
Transfer for Roads
TOTAL GENERAL FUND
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
2009 BUDGET
Expenditures
Personal Materials Contractual Capital 2009 2008
Services Supplies Services Outlay Total Total Change
34 200 200 114 500 148 900 134 900 10 38
401 000 500 65 000 466 500 434 900 7 27
228 300 200 59 600 200 288 300 302 600 4 73
168 000 168 000 168 000 0 00
110 000 110 000 101 600 8 27
173 700 2 400 125 100 301 200 285 300 5 57
71 300 48 300 309 600 429 200 392 800 9 27
21 500 6 400 27 900 27 900 0 00
3 000 144 200 147 200 110 200 33 58
930 000 54 600 1 102 400 200 2 087 200 1 958 200 6 59
78 900 1 546 900 1 625 800 1 502 100 8 24
514 600 47 100 116 000 677 700 673 600 0 61
689 800 6 100 33 900 729 800 690 900 5 63
56 000 5 000 13 700 74 700 73 000 2 33
1 339 300 58 200 1 710 500 3 108 000 2 939 600 5 73
535 300 1 300 31 800 300 568 700 537 600 5 78
641 700 131 600 34 400 1 300 809 000 767 500 5 41
5 000 323 400 328 400 319 900 2 66
258 800 265 400 53 000 6 000 583 200 444 600 31 17
1 435 800 403 300 442 600 7 600 2 289 300 2 069 600 10 62
200 4 000 4 200 4 200 0 00
393 700 700 14 100 408 500 382 600 6 77
22 200 15 700 37 900 35 300 7 37
415 900 900 33 800 450 600 422 100 6 75
200 2 000 2 200 2 200 0 00
125 500 1 000 10 600 137 100 129 100 6 20
227 800 11 500 77 000 316 300 301 200 5 01
13 400 9 500 57 400 80 300 74 300 8 08
709 800 81 300 94 500 4 000 889 600 834 800 6 56
44 300 4 500 20 600 69 400 60 700 14 33
180 000 19 100 i 93 800 292 900 276 400 5 97
29 200 7 700 49 300 86 200 100 100 13 89
1 330 000 134 800 405 200 4 000 1 874 000 1 778 800 5 35
5 451 000 651 800 3 694 500 11 800 9 809 100 9 168 300 6 99
150 000 150 000
9 959 100 9 318 300 6 88
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN DECEMBER
TAX LEVY
2009 Budget
General Fund
Capital Replacement Fund for equipment
Pavement Mgmt Fund Sealcoating
General Obligation Debt
General Obligation Debt 212 Bonds
Local Street Improvements
Debt of Other Agencies EDA
TOTAL TAX CAPACITY BASED TAX LEVIES
2008 2009 Percent
Levy Levy Increase
6 833 900 7 173 500 4 97 339 600
824 000 824 000 0 00
267 875 267 875 0 00
484 873 297 900 38 56
285 000 285 000 0 00
100 000 100 000 0 00
122 703 122 603 0 08
8 918 351 9 070 878 1 71
TAX CAPACITY BASED TAX LEVY
MARKET VALUE TAX LEVY
Park Referendum
Library Referendum
TOTAL MARKET VALUE TAX LEVY
695 900
490 700
1 186 600
972 700
491 300
1 464 000
39 78
0 12
23 38
Use of cash reserves to buy down debt street levy 269 986 360 313
TOTAL TAX LEVY 9 834 965 10 174 565 3 45
Dollar Increase 339 600
Scenario 1
Taxes applied to General Fund
Capital Replacement
Pavement Mgmt
Total Levy subject to levy limits
Bond Funds
Local Street Improvements
Reduction in OS Levy
Total
7 173 500
824 000
267 875
8 265 375
2 169 503
100 000
360 313
10 174 565
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New Construction
Exsiting MV Inc
TIF Oist 1
Eden Trace TIF
Gateway TIF
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
KEY FINANCIAL STRATEGIES
Inflation Assumptions for General Fund Revenue 3 00
Expenses 3 00
2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
GENERAL FUND ACTUAL ACTUAL ACTUAL ACTUAL ACTUAL BUDGET BUDGET PROJECTED PROJECTED PROJECTED
REVENUE
GENERAL PROPERTY TAX 6 118 451 6 461 356 6 229 593 6 185 311 6 385 431 6 563 900 7 103 500 7 316 605 7 536 103 7 762 186
LICENSES 119 905 102 636 132 932 99 809 131 999 108 000 126 300 130 089 133 992 138 011
PERMITS 1 265 597 1 191 420 1 027 205 1 346 154 1 543 207 1 329 800 1 324 800 1 364 544 1 405 480 1 447 645
FINES PENALTIES 43 732 61 801 104 962 162 946 145 682 157 500 158 500 163 255 168 153 173 197
INTERGOVERNMENTAL REVENUE 223 618 360 226 219 511 237 109 403 683 225 000 265 000 272 950 281 139 289 573
CHARGES FOR CURRENT SERVICES 609 512 721 470 697 532 699 228 511 357 621 100 574 000 591 220 608 957 627 225
OTHER REVENUE 334 072 168 644 390 112 386 321 618 319 313 000 407 000 419 210 431 786 444 740
TOTAL REVENUE 8 714 887 9 067 553 8 801 847 9 116 878 9 739 678 9 318 300 9 959 100 10 257 873 10 565 609 10 882 577
EXPENSES EXCL CAPITAL COSTS
GENERAL GOVERNMENT 1 548 062 1 751 744 1 822 354 1 859 326 1 910 079 1 958 200 2 087 200 2 149 816 2 214 310 2 280 740
LAW ENFORCEMENT 2 424 125 2 429 464 2 525 399 2 614 437 2 710 853 2 939 600 3 108 000 3 276 240 3 374 527 3 475 763
PUBLIC WORKS 1 678 314 1 773 655 1 823 564 1 967 815 1 998 169 2 069 600 2 289 300 2 357 979 2 453 718 2 552 330
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT 312 446 325 917 362 100 383 979 433 750 422 100 450 600 464 118 478 042 492 383
PARKS AND RECREATION 1 632 218 1 620 979 1 592 911 1 670 616 1 742 091 1 778 800 1 874 000 1 930 220 1 988 127 2 112 770
OTHER USES 815 000 807 786 2 751 497 273 720 150 000 150 000 150 000 150 000 150 000
TOTAL EXPENSES 8 410 165 8 709 545 8 126 328 11 247 670 9 068 662 9 318 300 9 959 100 10 328 373 10 658 724 11 063 986
Excess Fund Balance
5 917 535 6 275 643 6 951 062 4 820 270 5 491 286 5 491 286 5 491 286 5 420 786 5 327 671 5 146 263
3 328 530 3 224 552 3 211 210 3 394 557 3 394 450 3 684 250 3 794 778 3 908 621 4 025 879
1 218 949 1 687 151 1 300 000 1 300 000 1 300 000 1 300 000 1 300 000 1 300 000
4 443 501 4 898 361 4 694 557 4 694 450 4 984 250 5 094 778 5 208 621 5 325 879
50 0 50 0 50 0 50 0 50 0 50 0 50 0 50 0
1 832 042 2 052 701 125 713 796 836 507 036 396 509 212 165 1 792 5 146 263
2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
Fund Balance
Policy for Cash Flow
Catastrophic Reserve
Percentage of Fund Balance Per Polley
Assumptions Added On
Permit Revenue
Expenses
General Government
Law Enforcement
Public Works
Parks and Recreation
75 000
25 000 25 000
65 000
75 000 25 000 90 000
Policy for cash flow is 1 2 of next years property tax and intergovernmental revenue
Catastrophic reserve informal policy is cash flow policy listed above plus 15 of next years expenditures
New Law enforcement employees include
3 4 Patrol Officer in 2010
Public Works includes a PT Streets employee in 2011 and a PT Fleet dept employee in 2012
Park rec includes a FT park Maint employee in 2012
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
c
MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
FROM Bob Generous Senior Planner jl
Sharmeen AI Jaff Senior Planner s
DATE August 11 2008
SUBJ City Code Amendments
Chapter 5 Animals and Fowl
Chapter 7 Landscape Security
Chapter18 Subdivision
Chapter 19 Water Sewers and Sewage Disposal
Chapter 20 Zoning
BACKGROUND
In anticipation of the adoption of the 2030 Comprehensive Plan staff is preparing
an update of the City Code to coincide with its adoption Staff has reviewed the
City Code and discovered issues shortfalls and general updates and prepared
amendments to the Code The amendments to Chapters 18 and 20 were discussed
at the June 3 June 17 and August 5 2008 Planning Commission Meetings The
Planning Commission voted to recommend approval of the ordinances amending
Chapters 18 Subdivision and 20 Zoning
The intent of the work session is to review the proposed changes with the City
Council Any modifications directed by City Council will be made and the
amendments will be placed on the August 25 2008 agenda
At this time staff will be focusing on issues related to the following
Chapter 5 Animals and Fowl Costs incurred due to animal impoundment
Chapter 7 Landscape Security The use of escrow funds to bring the
landscaping into compliance
Chapter18 Subdivisions Emergency Over Flow EOF custom grading
ensure that the submittal requirements set forth in the City Code reflect what is
required from other agencies and Park dedication calculations shall be based on
buildable land
Chapter 19 Water Sewers and Sewage Disposal Safety measure from 100
year flood event and lowest floor opening of a structure
Chapter 20 Zoning Pre application meeting CUP IUP violations Required
setbacks for Planned Unit Developments PUD Height limitation in the
Neighborhood Business BN District Buffer yard requirements Freedom to
Breathe Provision and Drive Thru standards
The texts of all final ordinance amendments are shown in strike through and bold
format
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 18
Todd Gerhardt
August 11 2008
Page 2
DISCUSSION
CHAPTER 5 Animals and Fowl City Council review only
Issue When an animal is picked up by the City and the owner cannot be located the animal is
taken to Chanhassen Veterinary Clinic and impounded The veterinary clinic invoices the City
for the various related charges including needed shots and boarding fees When the animal s
owner is located these fees are assessed back to the owner
Occasionally an animal owner refuses to pay the fees The result is that the animal remains in
impound and continues to accrue fees The City is obligated by state law to hold the animal for
10 days and pay all related fees after which time it is typically put up for adoption By
changing this ordinance the animal s owner is made explicitly responsible for all charges and
fees associated with the impoundment and is encouraged to pick up the animal as soon as
possible This change may also reduce the potential financial liability to the City
Proposed Change Amend Sections 5 19 and 5 20 as shown below
Sec 5 19 Running at large
No dog or cat shall be allowed by its owner to run at large The police or animal control officers
of the City shall take up and impound any dog or cat found at large in violation of this section
The owner retains liability for all fees and charges related to the animal and it s impound
Sec 5 20 Abandonment
No person shall abandon any dog or cat within the City A person who chooses to abandon or
surrender their animal after impoundment retains liability for all fees and charges related
to the animal and it s impound
CHAPTER 7 Buildings and Building Regulations City Council review only
Landscape security
Issue While City ordinance provides the landscape security requirement it does not specify the
City s ability to use the escrow to complete the landscaping requirements on a lot The language
is similar to what is specified in the erosion and sediment control section of the ordinance 7 22
Proposed Change Amend Section 7 24 as shown below
Sec 7 24 Landscaping security
a If the lot on which a certificate of occupancy for a single family dwelling is requested it is
subject to landscaping requirements set forth in the development contract with the City A
certificate of occupancy shall not be issued unless the landscaping has been completed or
unless a 750 00 fee or such other amount as determined by the City s Community
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Development Director cash escrow or letter of credit is furnished to the City guaranteeing
completion within 60 days weatht r permitting If the landscaping requirements are not met
within one year of the completion deadline the money shall be forfeited and deposited into
the City s tree planting fund
b The City may use the escrow to reimburse the City for any labor or material costs it
incurs in securing compliance with the landscaping requirements If the City draws on
the escrowed funds no additional permits shall be issued for the lot until the pre draw
escrow balance has been restored The City shall endeavor to give notice to the owner
or developer before proceeding but such notice shall not be required in an emergency
as determined by the City
CHAPTER 18 Subdivisions Planning Commission held a public hearing on August 5 2008
Data Required
Issue In Section 18 40 4 there are three main issues
a Staff recommends adding an additional safety measure to provide separation between a 100
year overflow route and the lowest opening of an adjacent structure
b Currently the City Code only references custom graded lots under the as built requirements
Staff recommends providing clarification in the City Code regarding the acceptability of
custom graded lots at the time of the grading plan submittal for a new development
c A Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan SWPPP is a requirement of the Minnesota
Pollution Control Agency MPCA Staff is proposing the addition as a general update to
ensure that the submittal requirements set forth in the City Code reflect what is required from
other agencies
Proposed Change Amend Sec 18 40 4 d 2 b 18 40 4 e and 18 40 4 g as shown below
Section 18 40 4 Data Required Supplementary information
2 The preliminary and final grading plans must be 50 scale or larger The grading plan must
comply with the following design standards as well as the requirement of Chapter 7 of the
Chanhassen City Code
a The lowest floor elevation must be minimum three feet above the highest known
groundwater elevation and must meet the minimum requirements set forth in subsection
20 481 e 1
b If an emergency overflow route is adjacent to the property the lowest building
opening must be minimum one foot above the emergency overflow
c The style of home e g slab on grade split entry lookout walkout full basement
must be noted on the plan
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ej d The standard lot benching detail for each proposed style of home must be shown
6j e Drain tile service must be provided to all properties where runoff will flow from the
back to the front of the lot
ej f Identify proposed soil stockpile areas and note stabilization measures that will be taken
f Maint mance and repair of retaining walls lIhich cross lot lines built in conjunction
with the subdivision shall be the responsibility of the de leloper and upon completion
of the project tho homeowners association Note this section is included in section
18 40 4 d 1 and is redundant
g Custom graded lots may be allowed subject to the City Engineer s approval
e If any zoning changes are contemplated the proposed zoning shall be specified plan for the
areas
f Where the subdivider owns property adjacent to that proposed for the subdivision a general
development plan of the remaining property depicting the possible relationships between the
proposed subdivision and the future subdivision The plan shall address the overall land use
traffic circulation utility easement configurations and general lot layouts
g A soil erosion and sediment control plan as well as a copy of the Storm Water Pollution
Prevention Plan SWPPP as required by the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
MPCA as part of the National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System NPDES
permitting process The plan shall include a timing schedule and sequence of operation
indicating the anticipated starting and completion dates of the particular development
segment and the estimated time of exposure of each area prior to completion of effective
erosion and sediment control measures Gradients of waterways design of velocity and
erosion control measures and landscaping of the erosion and sediment control system shall
also be shown
h A vegetation preservation and protection plan to provide stabilization of erosion or sediment
producing areas
1 Required variances
J Water distribution system
k Proposals for street lighting curb and gutters sidewalks and boulevard improvements
1 Such other information as may be requested by the city
m Photocomposite images artistic renderings or site elevations which depict the visual impact
of the proposed development s design landscaping street layout signage pedestrian ways
lighting buildings or other details that affect land use within the city shall be submitted
Such images and renderings shall be from key vantage points and provide an undistorted
perspective of the proposed development from abutting properties less intensive land uses
and or from entryway locations Appropriate levels of resolution for the visualization shall be
used from flat shading for massing studies and preliminary design to photorealistic imaging
for final design
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Park Land Dedication
Issue The proposed change to the subdivision ordinance is required by 2006 legislation The
new legislation requires park dedication requirements be calculated based on buildable land in
a subdivision The law goes on to provide that the City must define the term buildable land in
its ordinance The law further provides that the value of land for determining dedication
requirement must be determined no later than at the time of final approval This will bring this
section of the City Code into conformance with these requirements and also make some
miscellaneous wording corrections
Staff is proposing a definition of Buildable Land in Chapter 1 concurrently with the City Code
updates
Buildable Land means all land except wetlands and public waters and land dedicated for Local
County and State roads
Proposed Change Amend Sec 18 79 as shown below
Sec 18 79 Park land dedication requirements
a As a prerequisite to subdivision approval subdividers shall dedicate land for parks
playgrounds public open spaces and trails and or shall make a cash contribution to the City s
park fund and trail fund as provided by this section
b Land to be dedicated shall be reasonably suitable for its intended use and shall be at a
location convenient to the people to be served Factors used in evaluating the adequacy of
proposed park and recreation areas shall include size shape topography geology hydrology
tree cover access and location
c The park and recreation committee shall recommend to the City Council the laftd buildable
land dedication and cash contribution requirements for proposed subdivisions
d If the property being subdivided was previously subdivided a credit will be given for similar
requirements satisfied in conjunction with the previous subdivision Requirements will be
calculated based upon the increase in the population calculation and any change from
residential to nonresidential or nonresidential to residential
e When a proposed park playground recreational area school site or other public ground has
been indicated in the City s official map or comprehensive plan and is located in whole or in
part within a proposed f at subdivision it shall be designated as such on the plat and shall be
dedicated to the appropriate governmental unit If the subdivider elects not to dedicate an
area in excess of the laRd buildable land required hereunder for such proposed public site
the City may consider acquiring the site through purchase or condemnation
f Land area conveyed or dedicated to the City shall not be used in calculating density
requirements of chapter 20 and shall be in addition to and not in lieu of open space
requirements for planned unit developments
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g Where private open space for park and recreation purposes is provided in a proposed
subdivision such areas may be used for credit at the discretion of the City Council against
the requirement of dedication for park and recreation purposes provided the City Council
finds it is in the public interest to do so
h The City upon consideration of the particular type of development may require larger or
lesser parcels of buildable land to be dedicated if the City determines that present or
future residents would require greater or lesser land for park and playground purposes
i In residential plats subdivisions one acre of taftEl buildable land shall be conveyed to the
City as an outlot by warranty deed for every 75 people the platted subdivided land could
house based upon the following population calculations
Single family detached dwelling per lot 3 5 persons
Two family dwelling per dwelling unit 3 0 persons
Apartment townhouses condominiums and other dwelling units per bedroom 1 0 persons
G In plaffi subdivisions other than residential plats subdivisions either a cash donation equal to
ten percent of the fair market value of the undeveloped property or ten percent of the gross
area of land buildable land being platted subdivided or a combination thereof shall be
conveyed to the City
k In lieu of a park land donation the City may require an equivalent cash donation based upon
average undeveloped buildable land value in the City The cash dedication requirement
shall be established annually by the City Council
1 In lieu of a trail donation trail construction or trail easement dedication the City may
require a cash donation for the trail system The cash dedication requirement shall be
established annually by the City Council
m The City may elect to receive a combination of cash land and development of the land for
park use The fair market value of the buildable land at the time of final subdivision
approval the City wants and the value of the development of the land shall be calculated
That amount shall be subtracted from the cash contribution required by subsection k above
The remainder shall be the cash contribution requirement
n Pair market value shall be determined as of the time of filing the final tHat subdivision
approval in accordance with the following
1 The City and the developer may agree as to the fair market value or
2 The fair market value may be based upon a current appraisal submitted to the City by the
subdivider at the subdivider s expense
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3 If the City disputes such appraisal the City may at the subdivider s expense obtain an
appraisal of the property by a qualified real estate appraiser which appraisal shall be
conclusive evidence of tpe fair market value of the land
0 Planned developments with mixed land uses shall make cash and or land contributions in
accordance with this section based upon the percentage of land devoted to the various uses
p Park dedication fees shall be paid at the time of final f at subdivision recording
q The cash contributions for parks and trails shall be deposited in either the City s park and
recreation development fund or multipurpose pedestrian trail fund and shall be used only for
park acquisition or development and trail acquisition or development
r If a subdivider is unwilling or unable to make a commitment to the City as to the type of
building that will be constructed on lots in the proposed f at subdivision then the land and
cash contribution requirement will be a reasonable amount as determined by the City
Council
s Wetlands ponding areas and drainage ways accepted by the City shall not be considered in
the park land and or cash contribution to the City
t Subdividers of land abutting streets that have been designated in the City s comprehensive
trail plan for the installation of a trail shall be required to dedicate the land for the trail to the
City and construct the trail An appropriate trail fee credit shall be granted
CHAPTER 19 Water Sewers and Sewage Disposal City Council review only
Major facility design elements
Issue Staff recommends adding an additional safety measure to provide separation between a
100 year overflow route and the lowest opening of an adjacent structure This language was also
added in Sec 18 40 of the City Code
Proposed Change Amend Sec 19 144 a 1 e as shown below
Sec 19 144 a 1 e Major facility design elements
e An emergency overflow spillway shall be identified and designed to convey storm flows
from events greater than the 100 year event Extreme events on the order of a 1O 0 inch
event shall be analyzed to ensure the emergency overflow spillway will function as
designed If an emergency overflow route is adjacent to the property the lowest
building opening must be minimum one foot above the emergency overflow
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CHAPTER 20 Zoning Planning Commission held public hearings on June 17 2008 and July
15 2008
Administration and Enforcement
Pre application Submittal Meeting Site Plan Review Variance Conditional Use and Interim
Use
Issue Staff would like to emphasize the pre submittal meeting with developers homeowners
etc prior to their formal application submittal The intent is to identify discuss and resolve
many issues and or concerns before the application is submitted and brought before the Planning
Commission and City Council This would help alleviate development review applications that
are incomplete or that have unresolved issues that lead the Commission or Council to table
action for resolution at a staff level only to return at the next meeting
This is currently a requirement for Subdivisions and Planned Unit Developments This should
be common practice for all application submittals including Site Plan Review Variances
Conditional Use Permits and Interim Use Permit applications Staff is proposing using similar
language to the Planned Unit Development requirements to formally require these pre
application meetings
Prior to filing an application for a site plan review variance conditional use interim use
the applicant shall attend a conference with City staff The primary purpose of the
conference shall be to provide the applicant with an opportunity to gather information and
obtain guidance on the general merits of the proposal and its conformity to the provisions
of the Comprehensive Plan and the City Code before incurring substantial expense
Proposed Change Amend Sections 20 56 variances 20 109 site plans 20 231 conditional
use permits and 20 321 interim use permits to incorporate this language
Variance Conditional Use and Interim Use Permit
Issue There are some properties within the city that have obtained a Variance Conditional Use
Permit or an Interim Use Permit recorded against a property In some cases the property lines
are altered or subdivided years later This poses several problems there may be multiple
owners for the subdivided properties governed by the CUP IUP V AR with the addition of the
new lot lines thus the site plan has changes and the site may be in violation of the conditions of
approval It is difficult to maintain the conditions of approval on a property that has been sold to
new owners who mayor may not be aware of the permits governing these sites
Staff is proposing to add language to the Variance Conditional Use and Interim use sections of
the city code that subdivision of the property shall deem the CUP or IUP null and void
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Proposed Change
Amend Section 20 57 Variances to read
Sec 20 57 Violations of conditions imposed upon variance termination for nonuse
The violation of any written condition shall constitute a violation of this chapter It is a
condition of every variance that the property for which the permit is issued not be subdivided
or the lot lines of the property altered A variance except a variance approved in conjunction
with platting shall become void within one year following issuance unless substantial action has
been taken by the petitioner in reliance thereon
Amend Section 20 233 Conditional Uses by adding subparagraph c to read as follows
c It is a condition of every conditional use permit that the property for which the permit is
issued not be subdivided or the lot lines of the property altered
Amend Section 20 323 Interim Use Permits by adding subparagraph 4 to read as follows
4 Upon the subdivision of the property or the alteration of the lot lines of the property
District Regulations
Issue There are issues with the mandatory setback and buffer requirements in the Planned Unit
Development PUD section of the City Code The buffer requirements are overly restrictive and
prevent implementation of other planning goals e g street front retail Staff proposes that these
setback standards be developed in conjunction with the design and approval of each project
rather than a one size fits all standard The following is the intent for the application of the
PUD
Sec 20 501 Intent
Planned unit developments offer enhanced flexibility to develop a site through the relaxation of
most normal zoning district standards The use of the PUD zoning also allows for a greater
variety of uses internal transfers of density construction phasing and a potential for lower
development costs In exchange for this enhanced flexibility the City has the expectation that
the development plan will result in a significantly higher quality and more sensitive proposal
than would have been the case with the use of other more standard zoning districts Emphasis
added
The above paragraph discusses the enhanced flexibility however the imposition of the strict
standards is contradictory to the overall intent of the PUD
In order to maintain a basis for negotiation for setback requirements staff proposes reducing the
minimum setback standards to allow for more flexibility Staff will be referencing the buffer
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yard requirements to determine the minimum setback requirements within a PUD The
minimum setback requirement is dependent on the adjacent land use
Finally staff would provide a basis or criteria for the City to either increase the required setbacks
or reduce the setbacks in order to implement community goals e g affordable housing street
front retail enhanced public spaces etc
Proposed Change Amend Section 20 505 f and Section 20 505 m
Sec 20 505 Required General Standards
f The setback for an buildings within a PUD from any abutting street line shall be 30 feet for
local streets and 50 feet from railroad lines or collector or arterial streets as designated il l the
comprehensive plan except that in no case shall the setback be less than the height of the
building up to a maximum of 100 feet The setback for all buildings from exterior PUD lot
lines not abutting a public street shall be 30 feet except that in no case shall the setback be
less than the height of the building up to a maximum of 100 feet Building and parking
setbacks from internal public streets shall be determined by the City based on characteristics
of the specific PUD Parking lots and driving lanes shall be set back at least 20 feet from all
exterior lot lines of a PUD
The setback for parking structures including decks and ramps shall be 35 feet from local
streets and 50 feet from all other street classifications except that in no case shall the setback
be less than the height of the structure Parking structure setbacks from external lot lines
shall be 50 feet or the height of the structure whichever is greater whei e adjacel lt to
residential property 35 feet when adjacent to 1 10nresidential properties Parking structures
setbacks from internal public or private streets shall be determined by the City based 01 1
characteristics of the specific PUD
Where industrial uses abut developed ef platted or planned single family lots outside the
PUD greater exterior building and parking setbacks between 50 and 100 feet shall be
required in order to provide effective screening The City Council shall make a
determination regarding the adequacy of screening proposed by the applicant Screening
may include the use of natural topography or earth berming existing and proposed plantings
and other features such as roadways and wetlands which provide separation of uses PUD s
must be developed in compliance with buffer yard requirements established by the
comprehensive plan and article XXV of the Chanhassen City Code
m Buffer yards T he City Comprehensive Plan establishes a requirement for buffer yards
Buffer yards are to be established in areas indicated on the plan where higher intensity uses
interface with low density uses and shall comply with article XXV of the Chanhassen
City Code In these areas a 50 foot buffer yard is to be provided where the interface occurs
along a public street a 100 foot buffer yard is required Nhere the int erface occurs on internal
lot lines
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The buffer yard is not an additional setback requirement It is to be cumulatively calculated
with the required setbacks outlined above The full obligation to provide the buffer yard
shall be placed on the parcel containing the higher intensity use
The buffer yard is intended to provide additional physical separation and screening for the
higher intensity use As such they will be required to be provided with a combination of
berming landscaping and or tree preservation to maximize the buffering potential To the
extent deemed feasible by the City new plantings shall be designed to require the minimum
of maintenance however such maintenance as may be required to maintain consistency with
the approved plan shall be the obligation of the property owner
Buffer yards shall be covered by a permanently recorded conservation easement running in
favor of the City
In instances where existing topography and or vegetation provide buffering satisfactory to
tho City or here quality site planning is achio ed the City may reduce buffer yard
requirements by up to 50 percent The applicant shall have the full burden of demonstrating
compliance with the standards herein
Issue BN District Height Limitation
There are two Neighborhood Business Districts in the City The first one is located at the
southwest intersection of Highway 7 and 41 The second district is located at the southeast
intersection of Highway 5 and Great Plains Boulevard The current ordinance limits building
height in the BN district to one story Staff is recommending that if a site abuts a residential
district without being separated by a street then the height of the building be limited to two
stories If the site is separated from the residential district by a street then a three story building
and a maximum
height of35 feet may
be permitted
Residential Single
Family Districts allow
three story buildings
with a maximum
height of 35 feet The
buffer yard
requirements in
Article XXV of the
Chanhassen City Code
will apply within the
required setbacks
The City has issued a
variance to permit the
development of three
story buildings in the
BN district to permit I
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the Park Nicollet Clinic Multi story buildings are generally reserved for office and service type
buildings Retail operations tend to be one story
Proposed Change Amend section 20 695 7 as follows
7 The maximum height is as follows
a For the principal structure one story two stories when it abuts a residential district
without being separated by a street and three stories with a maximum height of 35
feet when separated by a street
b For accessory structures one story
Issue Buffer yards in commercial or industrial districts
The current ordinance requires an excessive buffer yard in addition to a setback in all
commercial districts The original criterion was created to buffer residential districts from
industrial sites In 1993 the Planning Commission recommended the amendment of the
ordinance in all commercial districts as well as the industrial districts to increase the buffer A
buffer is intended to provide a separation as well as visual protection from a higher use
Staff has been encountering situations where this added buffer serves no practical purpose nor
does it serve its intent This requirement leads to a variance request in which a hardship must
exist There are other means in providing adequate buffering that can be much more efficient
and effective than a mandatory buffer area For example the City has a landscaping buffer yard
requirement under the landscaping section of the City Code which can be part of the required
setback area
Staff is also proposing to increase the required setback for industrial uses abutting residential
from 50 feet to 100 feet
Proposed Change Amend Sections 20 695 8 e Lot requirements and setbacks in the BN
District 20 715 8 e Lot requirements and setbacks in the BH District 20 755 7 e Lot
requirements and setbacks in the BG District 20 774 7 e Lot requirements and setbacks in the
BF District and 20 815 7 e Lot requirements and setbacks in the lOP District
Neighborhood Business District BN Highway and Business Services District BH and
General Business District BG
e Buffer yards The city comprehensive plan establishes a requirement for buffer yards Buffer
yards are to be established in areas indicated on the plan where higher intensity uses interface
with low density uses and shall comply with article XXV of the Chanhassen City Code
In these ai eas a 50 foot buffer yard is to be provided v here the interface occurs along a
public street a 100 foot buffer yard is required where the interface occurs on intemallot
li fle
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The buffer yard is not an additional setback requirement It is to be cumulatively calculated
with the required setbacks outlined above The full obligation to provide the buffer yard shall
be placed on the parcel containing the higher intensity use
The buffer yard is intended to provide additional physical separation and screening for the
higher intensity use As such they will be required to be provided with a combination of
berming landscaping and or tree preservation to maximize the buffering potential To the
extent deemed feasible by the city new plantings shall be designed to require the minimum
of maintenance however such maintenance as may be required to maintain consistency with
the approved plan shall be the obligation of the property owner
Buffer yards shall be co ered by a permanently recorded conservation easement running in
favor of the city
In iflstances where existing topography afldlor vegetation provide buffering satisfactory to
the city or vhere quality site planning is achieved the city may reduce buffer yard
requirements by up to 50 percent The applicant shall haye the full burden of demonstrating
compliance with the standards herein
Industrial Office Park District lOP
Amend Section 20 815 7 d
d The minimum setback is 100 feet when it abuts a residential district without being
separated from the residential district by a street or railroad right of way
In instances where existing topography and or vegetation provide buffering satisfactory
to the city or where quality site planning is achieved the city may reduce setback
requirements by up to 50 percent The applicant shall have the full burden of
demonstrating that there is sufficient separation and screening for the higher intensity
use
General Supplementals
Issue The Freedom to Breathe Provision was passed by Legislature on May 12 2007 signed
into law on May 16 2007 and became effective state wide on October 1 2007 The purpose of
the Freedom to Breathe Provision is to protect employees and the general public from the
hazards of secondhand smoke by prohibiting smoking in public places places of employment
public transportation and at public meetings
As a result of the Freedom to Breathe Provision local establishments that want to create outdoor
smoking shelters to accommodate their patrons have contacted the City regarding our standards
Rather than create ordinance standards for smoking shelters City Council directed staff to
reference the Freedom to Breathe Provision in the Accessory Structures section of City Code In
addition the City will provide a handout regarding the Freedom to Breathe Provision which will
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be will be available at City Hall All accessory structures must receive a building or zoning
permit prior to construction
Staff proposes reference to the Freedom to Breathe Provision under the Accessory Structure
section of the City Code as it relates to smoking structures
Staff is proposing definitions in Chapter 1 relating to the Freedom to Breathe Provision in
conjunction with the proposed changes to the Accessory Structures
Indoor Area means all space between a floor and a ceiling that is bound by walls doorways or
windows whether open or closed A wall for the purpose of smoking shelters includes any
retractable divider garage door or other physical barrier whether temporary or permanent
Public Transportation means public means of transportation including light and commuter rail
transit buses enclosed bus and transit stops taxis vans limousines and other for hire vehicles
other than those being operated by the lessee and ticketing boarding and waiting areas in public
transportation terminals
Smoking means inhaling or exhaling smoke from any lighted cigar cigarette pipe or any other
lighted tobacco or plant product Smoking also includes carrying a lighted cigar cigarette pipe
or any other lighted smoking tobacco or plant product equipment intended for inhalation
Proposed Change Amend section 20 904 to add d as shown below
Sec 20 904 Accessory structures
d Shall comply with the Freedom to Breathe Provision of the Minnesota Clean Indoor
Air Act contained in M S ch 1144 411 to 144 417
Drive Thru Standards
Issue The use of drive thru facilities is extending beyond fast food restaurants and banks
Current standards only address bank drive thru windows
Discussion Staff is proposing creating standards that would regulate drive thru facilities These
standards would apply to all drive thru windows throughout the City The drive thru facility will
be evaluated through the Site Plan Permit process If an existing building is converted to a bank
or other use requiring a drive thru then the conversion will be processed administratively subject
to compliance with the standards The proposed changes establish the performance standards
Staff will be recommending some future zoning changes within commercial districts to allow
limited use of drive thru facilities
PROPOSED CHANGE Delete Section 20 292 Add Section 20 965 Performance Standards
Sec 20 292 Drive through baRk facilities
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Drive through bank facilities and stacking areas shall be subject to the follov ing requirements
1 They shall not be located adjacent to any residential lot lines
2 They shall be provided with a suitable yisual screen from adjacent properties
3 StacIrJng for six cars per aislo shall be provided within applicable parking lot setbacks
Section 20 965 Drive thru facilities
Drive thru facilities for any use shall comply with the following standards
a They shall not be located adjacent to any residential lot lines
b They shall be provided with a suitable visual screen from adjacent properties
c Stacking shall be provided within applicable parking lot setbacks
d Stacking shall meet the following standards
1 Fast Food Restaurant six cars per aisle
2 Banks three cars per aisle
3 Pharmacy two cars per aisle
4 All other uses two cars per aisle
e The City may require a vehicle stacking study to determine whether more or less stacking
shall be required for a particular use
f Stacking areas shall not interfere with vehicular circulation in the parking lot nor encroach
into any required drive aisles
g Speaker or intercom system shall not be audible at the property line
RECOMMENDA TION
Staff requests that the City council review the proposed City Code amendments and provide
comments or direction
g plan city code 2008 code update cc work session memo 8 11 08 doc
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h ea r i ng . N o o n e s p o k e a n d t h e pub l i c h ea r i n g w a s c l o s e d . T o d d G e r h a r d t a s k e d t h e a pp li ca n t t o
e x p l a i n h o w t h e n a m e , “S c h oo l o f t h e W i s e” w a s c h o s e n .
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a pp r ov e t h e r e qu e s t f r o m C M C h a n n , LL C f o r a n o n -s a l e i n t o x i c a t i n g l i qu o r l i ce n s e f o r
S c h oo l o f t h e W i s e C h a n a t 60 0 M a r k e t S t r ee t , Su i t e 17 0 . T h e l i ce n s e d p r e m i s e s s h a ll a l s o
i n c l ud e t h e o u t d oo r p a t i o a r e a . A pp r ova l o f t h e l i ce n s e s h a l l b e c o n t i n g e n t up o n r ece i p t o f
l i qu o r l i a b i l i t y i n s u r a n ce a nd t h e l i ce n s e f ee , w h i c h w i ll b e c a l c u l a t e d o n ce t h e s qu a r e
f oo t ag e o f t h e l o c a t i o n h a s b ee n d e t e r m i n e d .
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S e v e r P e t e r s o n 159900 F l y i ng C l o ud D r i v e
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M i c h a e l S . 823 E a s t B l u f f A v e n u e , S h a k o p ee
T o d d H o ff m a n p r e s e n t e d t h e s t a f f r e p o r t o n t h i s i t e m . M a y o r F u r l o n g i nv i t e d m e m b e r s o f t h e
pub l i c t o s p ea k . B e r t N o t e r m a n n w h o o w n s t h e f o r m e r T e d P a u l p r o p e r t y w i t h S e v e r P e t e r s o n ,
w o u l d li k e t o c o n t i n u e h u n t i n g d ee r w i t h s l u g s . H e e x p l a i n e d h o w b e i n g a gu n s a f e t y i n s t r u c t o r
w i t h t h e DN R f o r 2 5 y e a r s , t h e l e n g t h s h e a n d h i s f a m il y t a k e t o h u n t s a f e l y . S e v e r P e t e r s o n ,
n o t i n g h i s f a mil y h a s li v e d a n d f a r m e d i n t h i s a r ea f o r o v e r 100 y ea r s , e x p l a i n e d h o w h u n t i n g
a l l o w s t h e m t o c o n t r o l t h e d ee r p o pu l a t i o n w h e r e t h e y f a r m , a n d t h e p r o ce du r e s t h e y e m p l o y f o r
s a f e h u n t i n g . H e s ugg e s t e d f o r mi ng a h u n t i n g s a f e t y c o m m i tt ee w h i c h w ou l d i n c l ud e
l a n d o w n e r s . A f t e r e x t e n s i v e d i s c u ss i o n a m o n g s t c o u n c i l m e m b e r s r e g a r d i n g t h e d i ff e r e n t
p r o v i s i o n s t o t h e o r d i n a n ce , t h e f o l l o w i ng m o t i o n w a s m a d e .
C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d m ov e d , C o un c i l w o m a n T j o r nh o m s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C h a nh a ss e n
C i t y C o un c i l a m e nd s C h a p t e r 11 o f t h e C i t y C o d e c o n ce r n i n g f i r e a r m s , re s t r i c t i n g t h e u s e
o f a f i re a r m b y p er m i t t o b o w a nd a rr o w o n p r o p e r t i e s t e n a cre s a nd l a r g e r , a nd s h o t g un s
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o n p r o p e r t i e s d e s i g n a t e d b y a f i r e a r m s h oo t i n g a r e a m a p , a n d a m e nd s C h a p t e r 4 r e g a r d i n g
f ee s t o e s t a b l i s h t h e p er m i t f ee t o d i s c h a r g e a b o w a nd a rr o w o r t o d i s c h a r g e a f i r e a r m t o
$20 e a c h . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a rr i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a v o t e o f 4 t o 0 .
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O FF I C E /W AR E HO U S E B U I L D I N G ; AND P UD A M E ND M E N T T O I NCR E A S E T H E
O V E RA LL S Q UAR E F OO T A G E O F B U I L D I N G S W I T H I N C H AN H A SS E N W E S T
B U S I N E SS P AR K O N P R O P E R T Y L O CA T E D A T 2451 G A L P I N C O UR T (L O T 3 ,
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K a t e A a n e n s o n p r e s e n t e d t h e s t a f f r e p o r t a n d P l a nn i ng C o mmi ss i o n upd a t e o n t h i s i t e m . M a y o r
F u r l o n g i n v i t e d a n y o n e f r o m t h e pub l i c t o s p ea k . J o E ll e n R a d e r m ac h e r a s k e d t h a t t h e c o u n c il
c o n s i d e r p r e s e r v i ng t h e r o w o f o a k t r ee s du r i n g c o n s t r u c t i o n .
C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C h a nh a ss e n C i t y
C o un c i l a pp r ov e s t h e a m e nd m e n t t o t h e P l a nn e d U n i t D e v e l o p m e n t d e s i g n s t a nd a r d s f o r
C h a nh a ss e n W e s t B u s i n e ss P a r k t o p er m i t a t o t a l d e v e l o p m e n t bu i l d i n g s qu a r e f oo t ag e o f
365 ,000 . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a vo t e o f 4 t o 0 .
C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C h a nh a ss e n C i t y
C o un c i l a pp r ov e t h e S i t e P l a n f o r P l a nn i n g C a s e #08 -14 f o r a 30 ,500 s qu a r e f oo t , o n e -s t o r y
o ff i c e / w a r e h o u s e bu i l d i n g , p l a n s p r e p a r e d b y H o u w m a n A r c h i t ec t s a nd M c C o m b s F r a n k
R oo s A ss o c i a t e s , I n c o r p o r a t e d d a t e d 5 /23 /0 8 , a n d a d o p t t h e a t t a c h e d F i nd i n g s o f F a c t ,
s ub j ec t t o t h e f o ll o w i n g c o nd i t i o n s:
1. T h e a p p li ca n t s h a ll e n t e r i n t o a s i t e p l a n a g r e e m e n t w i t h t h e C i t y a n d p r o v i d e t h e n ec e ss a r y
s ec u r i t y t o gu a r a n t ee e r o s i o n c o n t r o l , s i t e r e s t o r a t i o n a n d l a n d s ca p i ng .
2. T h e d e v e l o p e r s h a l l p r o v i d e e x t e r i o r b e n c h e s a n d /o r t a b l e s .
3. O n e a d d i t i o n a l p a r k i ng s t a l l s h a l l b e p r o v i d e d .
4. A t l ea s t s i x o f t h e p a r k i n g s t a ll s l o ca t e d ea s t o f t h e b u i l d i ng s h a l l b e r e l o ca t e d t o t h e s i d e o f
t h e b u il d i ng .
5. T h e d e v e l o p e r s h a l l p r o v i d e a p e d e s t r i a n c o n n ec t i o n f r o m t h e s i t e t o t h e s i d e w a l k o n G a l p i n
C o u r t . P e d e s t r i a n r a m p s s h a l l b e i n s t a ll e d a t a l l c u r b s a l o n g t h i s p a t h w a y .
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6. T h e p l a n s p e c i f i c a t i o n s s h a l l b e r e v i s e d t o i n c o r p o r a t e h i g h p r e ss u r e s od i u m v a p o r l a m p s i n s t ea d
o f t h e m e t a l h a l i d e l a m p s
7. A t h r ee -f o o t c l e a r s p ace a r o u n d f i r e h y d r a n t s s h a l l b e p r o v i d e d . F i r e C o d e s ec . 508 .5
8. N o t h i n g s h a l l b e p l ace d n ea r f i r e h y d r a n t s o r f i r e d e p a r t m e n t i n l e t c o nn ec t i o n s t h a t w o u l d
d e t e r o r h i n d e r f r o m g a i n i ng im m e d i a t e acce ss . F i r e C o d e s ec . 508 .5 .4 .
9. N o P I V (p o s t i n d i ca t o r v a l v e ) w ill b e r e q u i r e d .
10. C o n t a c t F i r e M a r s h a l f o r l o ca t i o n o f “N o P a r k i n g F i r e L a ne ” s i g n s , a n d c u r b i ng t o b e p a i n t e d
y e l l o w .
11. P a r k f e e s i n t h e a m o u n t o f $31 ,387 .6 7 s h a l l b e p a i d a t t h e t i m e o f b u i l d i ng p e r m i t i ss u a n c e .
12. T h e b u i l d i ng s a r e r e q u i r e d t o h a v e a n a u t o m a t i c f i r e e x t i n g u i s h i ng s y s t e m .
13. T h e p l a n s m u s t b e p r e p a r e d a n d s i g n e d b y d e s i g n p r o f e s s i o n a l s l i c e n s e d i n t h e S t a t e o f
M i nn e s o t a .
14. R e t a i n i ng w a l l s f o u r f ee t h i g h o r h i gh e r r e q u i r e a b u il d i ng p e r m i t a n d m u s t b e d e s i g n e d b y a
s t r u c t u r a l e n g i n e e r r e g i s t e r e d i n t h e S t a t e o f M i nn e s o t a .
15. T h e a p p li ca n t s h a ll i n c r ea s e t h e i n s i d e w i d t h o f a ll i s l a n d s a n d /o r p e n i n s u l a s t o 1 0 f ee t o r
g r ea t e r .
16. T r ee p r e s e r v a t i o n f e n c i ng i s r e q u i r e d t o b e i n s t a ll e d p r i o r t o a n y c o n s t r u c t i o n a l o n g t h e n o r t h
a n d w e s t p r o p e r t y li n e s .
17. O n t h e G r a d i n g p l a n :
a. S h o w t h e e x i s t i n g c o n t o u r s o n t h e ea s t s i d e o f t h e s i t e . P r o v i d e s p o t e l e v a t i o n s o f t h e
d r i v e w a y c o n n ec t i o n s .
b. S h o w N W L a n d H W L o n t h e p o n d .
c. A dd b e n c h m a r k .
d. R e du ce s l o p e o n t h e s o u t h e r n d r i v e .
18. E n c r o ac h m e n t a g r ee m e n t s w i l l b e n e e d e d p r i o r t o b u i l d i ng p e r m i t i s s u a n c e f o r a n y d r i v e w a y
o r r e t a i n i ng w a ll i n t h e d r a i n a g e a n d u t i l i t y e a s e m e n t .
19. O n t h e U t i l i t y p l a n :
a. P r o v i d e d e t a il s o f ea c h u t i l i t y c r o s s i ng .
b. A dd c l e a n o u t t o t h e s a n i t a r y s e w e r s e r v i c e .
c. A dd n o t e t o n o t i f y C i t y o f C h a n h a s s e n U t i l i t y D e p a r t m e n t 48 h o u r s p r i o r t o c o nn ec t i n g t o
t h e w a t e r m a i n (952 -227 -1300 ).
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d. W a t e r m a i n m u s t b e l oo p e d a r o u n d t h e b u il d i ng . T h i s w a t e r m a i n s h a l l b e p r i v a t e l y o w n e d
a n d m a i n t a i n e d .
20. S h o w l o ca t i o n o f h e a v y du t y v e r s u s li g h t du t y p a v e m e n t s ec t i o n s .
21. A dd D e t a i l P l a t e s 3107 a n d 5215 .
22. T h e n o r t h e r n d r i v e w a y m u s t b e e i t h e r s h i f t e d t o t h e s o u t h t o r e m a i n o n t h e s i t e b e i ng
d e v e l o p e d o r s ec u r e a p r i v a t e d r i v e ea s e m e n t f r o m t h e p r o p e r t y t o t h e n o r t h .”
A l l vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a rr i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a v o t e o f 4 t o 0 .
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f a r m e r s m a r k e t du r i n g t h e s u mm e r , a s s h e d i d t h e p r e v i o u s w ee k e n d . M a y o r F u r l o n g e n c o u r a g e d
p e o p l e t o a t t e n d t h e L u n c h t im e L y r i c s /T w i l i g h t T un e s s e r i e s , li k e h e a n d h i s f a mil y d i d t h e
p r e v i o u s w ee k .
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D r i v e s t r ee t p r o j ec t a n d t h a n k e d t h e M a y o r a n d c i t y s t a f f f o r h e l p i ng w i t h t h e C h a m b e r p i c n i c .
C O RR E S P O ND E N C E D I S CU SS I O N: N o n e .
C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d s ec o nd e d t o a d j o u r n t h e m ee t i n g . A ll
vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d w i t h a v o t e o f 4 t o 0 . T h e C i t y C o un c i l m ee t i ng w a s
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E r n s t , C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m , a n d C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d .
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a s w e ll a s t h o s e w a t c h i n g a t h o m e . W e ’r e g l a d t h a t y o u j o i n e d u s t h i s e v e n i ng . A t t h i s t im e I
w o u l d a s k m e m b e r s o f t h e c o u n c il i f t h e r e a r e a n y m od i f i c a t i o n s t o o u r a g e n d a . W i t h o u t
o b j ec t i o n , w e ’l l p r o cee d w i t h t h e a g e n d a a s pub l i s h e d . S o o r d e r e d . W e ’l l m o v e n o w . W e h a v e
t w o pub li c a n n o u n c e m e n t s . T h e f i r s t i s a n i t e m c o m i ng up t h i s F r i d a y , A ug u s t 1 st a t t h e
M i nn e s o t a L a n d s ca p e A r b o r e t u m . I n p a r t n e r s h i p w i t h t h e C i t y o f C h a n h a s s e n I ’d li k e t o i nv i t e
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f o r u s . T h e A r b o r e t u m a d m i ss i o n w i l l b e w a i v e d t h r o ug h o u t t h e d a y f r o m 8 :00 a .m . t o 8 :00 p .m .
f o r a l l r e s i d e n t s w i t h v a l i d i d e n t i f i ca t i o n . T h i s i s a f u n e v e n t . T h e r e ’s a l o t g o i n g o n a n d I w o u l d
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c o m p li m e n t a r y b a g e l s a n d c o ff ee . M e m b e r s o f o u r E n v i r o n m e n t a l C o m m i ss i o n a n d P a r k a n d
R ec C o m m i ss i o n a r e o f t e n i n a tt e n d a n ce a s w e l l . T h i s y ea r t h e T r e e o l og y i s a s u mm e r e xh i b i t
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w a y t o e n j o y n a t u r e . T h e r e ’s a g u i d e d w a l k i ng t o u r , a s I m e n t i o n e d , o f t h e A r b o r e t u m ’s m o s t
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m e m b e r s o f t h e c o u n c i l t h a t h a v e qu e s t i o n s o n t h i s r i g h t n o w . W e do h a v e M r . F r a n k s i s h e r e o n
t h e s c h oo l b o a r d . I d o n ’t k n o w i f t h e r e ’s a n y t h i ng y ou ’d li k e t o a dd a t t h i s t im e o r c o mm e n t o n .
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y o u a b o u t o u r b a l l f i e l d u s a g e a n d o u r p o t e n t i a l f o r a d d i n g m o r e b a l l f i e l d s a n d t h e c o s t o f w h a t
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a d d i t i o n a l a t h l e t i c f a c il i t i e s , i t ’s e i t h e r , li k e w e ’v e t a l k e d a b o u t t o n i g h t , im p r o v e o r e n h a n ce o u r
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a pp r o ac h t o m ee t i n g s o m e o f o u r d e m a n d s f o r a t h l e t i c a n d b a l l f i e l d s p ace .
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t h e f i e l d s a n d i t h e l p s o n t h e f i e l d s b y m a k i ng t h i s c o n t r i b u t i o n a t t h e h i g h s c h oo l .
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m o n e y . W h e r e i t c o m e s f r o m a n d s o f o r t h s o I a p p r e c i a t e t h o s e r e s p o n s e s .
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r e g a r d s t o y o u r V i c t o r i a b u s i n e s s , y o u ’v e s a i d i t ’s b e e n s u cce ss f u l . H a v e y o u h a d a n y c h a l l e n g e s
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r e s t a u r a n t i n S h a k o p ee . W e h a d t h e A r i z o n a ’s a n d t h a t w a s h a r d c o r e a n d I’m j u s t t o o o l d f o r a
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a n d c l o s e t h e pub l i c h ea r i ng . B r i n g i t b ac k t o c o u n c i l f o r d i s c u ss i o n a n d c o mm e n t s . T h o ug h t s .
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t h o ug h t a n d e n e r g y b e h i nd i t . M a yb e y o u .
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i n t h e v a l l e y i s d ec r ea s i ng . I m e a n t h e r e i s n o g r o w t h i n t h e v a ll e y a n d n o w i t ’s p r o t ec t e d a s a
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l e ss t h a n 40 y a r d s . T h a t d o e s n ’t m e a n t h e r e ’s n o t a 70 y a r d s h o t , b u t w e d o n ’t h a v e c o rr i d o r s
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n o b od y li v e s d o w n i n t h e v a l l e y . N o b o d y li v e s i n t h e f l oo d p l a i n .
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c o r r i d o r s . C a n y o u e x p l a i n o u t w h a t y o u ’r e d o i n g t h e r e?
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c o u l d s a f e l y h u n t a n d i f w e d o h a v e p e op l e o n t h e g r o u n d , w i t h o u t w ea p o n s . N o t f i r i ng w ea p o n s ,
t h a t a r e l e t ’s s a y d r i v i ng t h e d ee r o r m o v i ng t h e d ee r , w h a t e v e r , h o w e v e r y o u ’d li k e t o d e s c r i b e
i t , t h a t t h o s e p e o p l e a r e s a f e a n d t h a t t h e y k n o w w h e r e t h e s h o o t e r s a n d t h e s h o o t e r s k n o w w h e r e
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i n t o S h a k o p ee , i s t h e r e a n y t h i ng o n t h e o t h e r s i d e t o t h e s o u t h o f y o u t h a t ?
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l a n d a t t h e b e n d o f t h i s r i v e r o n t h i s p a r t i c u l a r p r o p e r t y i t ’s o p e n l a n d d o w n h e r e g o i n g up i n t o
S h a k o p ee . N o t i n t o t h e c i t y o f S h a k o p ee b u t t h e S h a k o p ee p r o p e r t y t h e r e . B u t w e d o n ’t s h oo t
ac r o ss t h e r i v e r . W e d o n ’t e v e r s h o o t ac r o ss t h e r i v e r .
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t h a t s o m e b od y d o e s n ’t t h i n k t h e r e ’s n o t h i n g d o w n t h e r e . Y e s . S o y e a h , a n d t h e y ’r e l a r g e r
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p r o p e r t y o w n e r s n o r t h o f F l y i ng C l o ud D r i v e ?
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d e c i d e w h e t h e r o r n o t y o u w a n t t o e x p a n d b o w h u n t i n g .
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T o d d H o ff m a n : 40 ac r e s s o E d e n P r a i r i e a n d t h e v a ll e y , o r I gu e ss o n t h e o t h e r s i d e , i f y o u h a v e
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v a l l e y . E x ce p t i n t h e r i v e r v a l l e y i s t h e o n l y e x ce p t i o n f o r s l u g s I b e li e v e .
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c o mm u n i t y .
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k n o w t h e y a l l o w u s i n E d e n P r a i r i e t o h u n t . I o w n s o m e p r o p e r t y d o w n t h e r e a n d I h u n t w i t h
S e v e r d o w n t h e r e a n d t h e y a l l o w u s t o h u n t b eca u s e t h e y k n o w t h e r e i s a p r o b l e m w i t h d ee r
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w o u l d b e y o u k n o w s o m e ac c i d e n t s a n d m a y b e s e r i o u s i n j u r i e s o r d ea t h s i f w e w e r e n o t h u n t i n g
t h e r e s o I t h i n k i t ’s im p o r t a n t t h a t w e c o n t i n u e t o d o t h i s a n d f r o m a s h a r p s h o o t i n g p e r s p ec t i v e
y o u mi g h t w a n t t o a s k E d e n P r a i r i e w h a t k i n d o f m o n e y t h e y s p e n d a y ea r o n k i ll i ng t h e d ee r .
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u s c o n t i n u e t o t r y t o k ee p t h e p o pu l a t i o n d o w n . I t h i nk i t ’s a g r ea t i d ea y o u r 10 ac r e b o w a n d
a r r o w . T h a n k y o u .
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t h o ug h t s a n d c o mm e n t s f r o m m e m b e r s o f t h e c o un c i l .
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y o u r o p i n i o n a n d g e t t i n g i n v o l v e d . B u t I’m w o n d e r i n g i f w h a t w e c o u l d d o i s a s k T o dd a t t h i s
p o i n t t o w o r k w i t h t h o s e i n t h a t a r ea , a n d s ee i f t h e r e ’s s o m e t h i ng t h a t ca n b e w o r k e d o u t .
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t h a n d e f e r r i n g . I gu e ss I’m . W e l l , l e t m e a s k y o u t h i s C o u n c i l w o m a n E r n s t , b eca u s e w e r e a l l y
d i d n ’t a c h a n ce t o t a l k s i g n i f i ca n t l y a b o u t t h e p r o p o s a l a t o u r l a s t m ee t i n g b e ca u s e w e t a b l e d i t . I
t h i n k i n t e r m s o f t h e b o w h u n t i n g , I t h i n k y o u h a d s a i d y o u w e r e i n f a v o r o f .
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M a y o r F u r l o n g : O f e x p a n d i n g t h a t i s b e i ng p r o p o s e d .
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M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d s o t h e n t h e qu e s t i o n i s o n t h e a d d i n g r e s t r i c t i o n s t o t h e f i r ea r m , y o u ’r e
s a y i ng a t t h i s p o i n t m a y b e t h e r e ’s , w o r k i t o u t w i t h t h e p r o p e r t y o w n e r s s o u t h o f t h e .
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C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : R i g h t .
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e v e n s u r e I li k e d t h e t im e li n e o f j u s t s t o pp i n g s o m e t h i n g a t a ce r t a i n p o i n t . I t h i n k d e v e l op m e n t
w i l l k i nd o f t a k e ca r e o f a l o t o f t h e p r o b l e m s w e ’r e t a l k i ng a b o u t t o n i g h t a n d s o I h a t e t o r e s t r i c t
s o m e o n e ’s u s e o f t h e i r p r o p e r t y u n t il t h a t t im e , i f i t ’s a r ea s o n a b l e r e qu e s t , a n d i t s e e m s t o m e
t h a t i t i s . H u n t i n g i n t h e r i v e r v a l l e y s e e m s t o b e a s po t t h a t i s n ’t p o pu l a t e d w i t h a l o t o f p e o p l e
o b v i o u s l y a s t h e o w n e r s w e r e s a y i ng . A n d a l s o I t h i nk i t i s a m a tt e r o f p u b li c s a f e t y . Y o u ’v e go t
t h e h i g h w a y s r i g h t t h e r e a n d s o i f y o u c a n e l im i n a t e s o m e o f t h o s e d ee r t h a t a r e j u m p i ng o v e r
f e n c e s a n d o n t o h i g h w a y s , I t h i n k t h a t ’s a n a s s e t a n d a v a l u e t o o u r c o m m u n i t y a l s o . S o I w o u l d
b e i n f a v o r o f e i t h e r r e v i e w i ng i t y e a r l y t o s ee w h e r e w e a r e , o r l ea v i n g i t t h e w a y i t i s . W e h a v e
m a n y o p t i o n s b e ca u s e o bv i o u s l y M r . E r h a r t s a i d h e d i d n ’t h u n t w i t h s l ug s a n d s o h e w a s n o t
o p p o s e d t o e li m i n a t i n g t h a t s o . I t h i n k t h a t w e ca n a l l c o m e t o s o m e s o r t o f r ea s o n a b l e i d ea o f
h o w t o h a n d l e t h i s s o e v e r y o n e ’s h a p p y .
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r ec o gn i ze d t h e pub l i c s a f e t y a s p e c t o f i t , a n d y o u kn o w I k i n d o f a g r ee d . I d i d n ’t w a n t t o g o j u s t
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s l ug h u n t i n g a n d I t h i n k t h a t w a s b eca u s e I w a s un a w a r e o f t h i s l a n d d o w n a t t h e r i v e r b o tt o m . I
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n o t o u r p r o b l e m b u t I t h i n k t h a t f r o m w h a t I ’v e s i n ce l ea r n e d a b o u t a ll o f t h i s , t h a t y o u k n o w t h a t
p r o b a b l y i s t h e o n l y a r ea w i t h i n t h e c i t y t h a t y o u c o u l d s a f e l y h u n t . S o w h a t I w o u l d r a t h e r s ee
i s , I m e a n I w a s p r e p a r e d t o s a y o k a y , y o u ca n k ee p s h o t gu n s i n t h e a r ea s t h a t w e t a l k e d a b o u t
a n d w e w e r e l oo k i n g a t p h a s i n g t h o s e o u t . A g a i n i t ’s b a s e d up o n d e v e l op m e n t a n d p r e t t y s oo n
y ou ’r e n o t g o i n g t o b e a b l e t o h u n t up t h e r e b eca u s e t h e r e ’s g o i n g t o b e p e o p l e li v i ng a l l a r o u n d
i t . B u t d o w n i n t h e r i v e r b o tt o m a r ea , i f E d e n P r a i r i e ’s a l r ea d y s a i d t h a t t h a t a r ea t h e y w i l l a l l o w
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a r ea s , y o u k n o w j u s t d o t h e s h o t gu n s a n d f i n e s h o t . I ’m s t i l l g oo d w i t h t h a t . E v e r y t h i ng n o r t h o f
b a s i c a ll y F l y i ng C l o ud D r i v e , y o u k n o w t o s a y t h a t b u t t o a l l o w t h e r i v e r b o tt o m a r ea t o
c o n t i n u e h u n t i n g t h e w a y t h e y h a v e . A n d a g a i n i f I c o u l d j u s t a dd o n e t h i n g . T h e o t h e r t h i n g
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w a l k i n t h e r e . Y o u h a v e t o m e e t ce r t a i n c r i t e r i a .
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d o w n t h e r e .
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c u rr e n t o r d i n a n c e s t o e x i s t i n p l ace s o u t h o f F l y i n g C l o ud D r i v e . I s t h a t a r ea m a t e r i a ll y
s i g n i f i c a n t l y d i f f e r e n t i n y o u r o p i n i o n t h a n t h e a r ea n o r t h o f t h e b l u f f ? S t i l l i n s o u t h e r n
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a pub li c c o n ce r n s , pub l i c n u i s a n c e s a n d o t h e r f ac t o r s ?
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o f t h e b l u f f w h e r e y o u h a v e t h e r e s i d e n t i a l . Y o u kn o w m y o n l y c o n ce r n r e a l l y i n t h a t a r ea i s t h e
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b u i l d i ng . Y o u ’v e go t o n e o f t h e p r o p e r t y o w n e r s i n t h e r e s i d e n t i a l h o m e s o n t h e w e s t e r l y s i d e
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g o i n g o n . R e s i d e n t s a r e g o i n g t o h ea r t h e f i n e s h o t s h o t gu n s v e r s u s t h e s l ug . I d e f i n i t e l y w ou l d
s a y t h a t y o u , a n yb od y h u n t i n g i n t h i s a r ea n ee d s t o b e i n a t r ee , w o u l d b e o n e o f t h e r e qu i r e m e n t s
I w o u l d a s k t h a t s o m e b od y p l a c e o n t h e m . A n d t h a t t h a t w o u l d o n l y a l l o w t h e r i c o c h e t t o o cc u r
f r o m t h e s h o t . S o h ea r i n g t h e c o u n c il a n d t h e d i r e c t i o n y o u w a n t t o g o , t h o s e a r e m y c o n ce r n s .
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t h e y ’r e c l o s e r t o t o w n s o .
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a b u c k j u m p s up i n f r o n t o f t h o s e d r i v e r s , t h e y ’r e go i n g t o s h oo t i t s o , y o u k n o w y o u pu t u n du e
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n o l o n g e r do t h a t b eca u s e i t c o u l d b e t e m p t i n g f o r t h e b u c k , a n d i n t h e s pu r o f t h e m o m e n t ,
w h e r e t h a t c o rr i d o r g o e s s o w e d o n ’t . W e h u n t o n l y f r o m t r ee s t a n d s i n c o rr i d o r s .
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m a y b e g e tt i n g d o w n a n d t a l k i ng a b o u t s o m e s a f e t y gu i d e li n e s t h a t w e c o u l d pu t i n t h i s a r ea .
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f o r e v e r yb od y .
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e v e r y o n e ’s p a r t o f w h a t ’s h a pp e n i ng . D o e s t h a t m a k e s e n s e f o r e v e r yb od y ? C o u n c i l w o m a n
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t h a t p r a c t i c e o n h i s p r o p e r t y . T h a t ’s a l s o a n o p t i o n i s j u s t t o t a k e n o a c t i o n o n o u r c u r r e n t
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M a y o r F u r l o n g : A n d y o u r a i s e a g oo d p o i n t . T h e e n t i r e a r ea , O u t l o t C u p t h e r e o b v i o u s l y o n t h e
n o r t h p a r t o f t h i s p a r c e l i s o n e o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t h a s a t r e m e n d o u s o a k t r e e s t a n d a n d o t h e r t r ee s
a n d t h a t w a s a ll p r e s e r v e d a s p a r t o f t h e s i t e . O r i g i n a l P UD s o i t ’s n i c e t o s ee t h a t w e ’r e
p r e s e r v i ng o t h e r t r ee s a s w e l l i n t h e r e , s o t h a n k y o u .
J o E ll e n R a d e r m a c h e r : O k a y , t h a n k y o u .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : A pp r e c i a t e y o u r a i s i ng t h e c o m m e n t s a n d s t a f f w il l b e s u r e t o t a k e n o t e o f t h a t
du r i n g t h e p r o ce ss . T h a n k y o u . A n y o t h e r qu e s t i o n s o r c o mm e n t s ? T h a n k y o u . B r i n g i t b ac k t o
c o u n c il . A n y t h o ug h t s o r c o mm e n t s ? O n e i t h e r t h e r e qu e s t e d P U D a m e n d m e n t o r t h e s i t e p l a n .
C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : S e e m s p r e t t y c u t a n d d r y . I t h i n k i t ’s b e e n a go o d d e v e l op m e n t s o f a r
a n d i t l oo k s li k e i t ’s s t a y i ng o n t r ac k w i t h qu a l i t y a r c h i t ec t u r e a n d j u s t o v e r a l l h o p e f u ll y b e i ng
n e i g h b o r h oo d f r i e n d l y f o r a l l t h o s e n e i g h b o r s t h a t a r e li v i ng a r o u n d t h e c o n s t r u c t i o n a n d
e v e r y t h i ng e l s e .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : O k a y , t h a n k y o u . A n y o t h e r c o mm e n t s ? I f n o t , i s t h e r e a m o t i o n t o a d o p t t h e
t w o p r o p o s e d r e qu e s t s ?
C o u n c il w o m a n E r n s t : I’l l d o i t . I m a k e a m o t i o n t h a t C i t y C o u n c il a pp r o v e s t h e a m e n d m e n t t o
t h e P l a nn e d U n i t D e v e l op m e n t d e s i g n s t a n d a r d s f o r C h a n h a s s e n W e s t B u s i n e ss P a r k t o p e r m i t a
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t o t a l d e v e l op m e n t b u il d i ng s qu a r e f o o t a g e o f 365 ,0 00 . A n d t h e C h a n h a ss e n , t h a t C i t y C o u n c i l
a pp r o v e t h e S i t e P l a n f o r P l a nn i ng C a s e #08 -14 f o r a 30 ,50 0 s qu a r e f o o t , o n e -s t o r y o ff i c e /
w a r e h o u s e b u i l d i ng , p l a n s p r e p a r e d b y H o u w m a n A r c h i t ec t s a n d M c C o m b s F r a n k R oo s
A ss o c i a t e s , I n c o r p o r a t e d d a t e d 5 /23 /08 , s ub j ec t t o c o n d i t i o n s 1 t h r o ug h 22 o n p a g e 11 t h r o ug h 13
o f t h e s t a f f r e p o r t d a t e d J u l y 1 , 2008 . A n d t h a t C i t y C o u n c i l a l s o a d o p t t h e a t t ac h e d F i n d i n g s o f
F ac t .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . I s t h e r e a s ec o n d ?
C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : I’l l s ec o n d .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . A n y f u r t h e r d i s c u s s i o n o n t h e m o t i o n ? W e ’v e j u s t t a k e n a w a y o n e
o f R o g e r ’s j o b s . T o dd h a s a n e w o n e a n d R o g e r n ee d s o n e . A l r i g h t , w e ’ll f i nd s o m e t h i ng e l s e
f o r y o u t o k ee p y o u b u s y . V e r y go o d . I s t h e r e , a m o t i o n ’s b ee n m a d e a n d s ec o n d e d . I s t h e r e
a n y f u r t h e r d i s c u ss i o n o n t h e m o t i o n ?
C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C h a nh a ss e n C i t y
C o un c i l a pp r ov e s t h e a m e nd m e n t t o t h e P l a nn e d U n i t D e v e l o p m e n t d e s i g n s t a nd a r d s f o r
C h a nh a ss e n W e s t B u s i n e ss P a r k t o p er m i t a t o t a l d e v e l o p m e n t bu i l d i n g s qu a r e f oo t ag e o f
365 ,000 . A ll vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a vo t e o f 4 t o 0 .
C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d s ec o nd e d t h a t t h e C h a nh a ss e n C i t y
C o un c i l a pp r ov e t h e S i t e P l a n f o r P l a nn i n g C a s e #08 -14 f o r a 30 ,500 s qu a r e f oo t , o n e -s t o r y
o ff i c e / w a r e h o u s e bu i l d i n g , p l a n s p r e p a r e d b y H o u w m a n A r c h i t ec t s a nd M c C o m b s F r a n k
R oo s A ss o c i a t e s , I n c o r p o r a t e d d a t e d 5 /23 /0 8 , a n d a d o p t t h e a t t a c h e d F i nd i n g s o f F a c t ,
s ub j ec t t o t h e f o ll o w i n g c o nd i t i o n s :
1. T h e a p p li ca n t s h a ll e n t e r i n t o a s i t e p l a n a g r e e m e n t w i t h t h e C i t y a n d p r o v i d e t h e n ec e ss a r y
s ec u r i t y t o gu a r a n t ee e r o s i o n c o n t r o l , s i t e r e s t o r a t i o n a n d l a n d s ca p i ng .
2. T h e d e v e l o p e r s h a l l p r o v i d e e x t e r i o r b e n c h e s a n d /o r t a b l e s .
3. O n e a d d i t i o n a l p a r k i ng s t a l l s h a l l b e p r o v i d e d .
4. A t l ea s t s i x o f t h e p a r k i n g s t a ll s l o ca t e d ea s t o f t h e b u i l d i ng s h a l l b e r e l o ca t e d t o t h e s i d e o f
t h e b u il d i ng .
5. T h e d e v e l o p e r s h a l l p r o v i d e a p e d e s t r i a n c o n n ec t i o n f r o m t h e s i t e t o t h e s i d e w a l k o n G a l p i n
C o u r t . P e d e s t r i a n r a m p s s h a l l b e i n s t a ll e d a t a l l c u r b s a l o n g t h i s p a t h w a y .
6. T h e p l a n s p e c i f i c a t i o n s s h a l l b e r e v i s e d t o i n c o r p o r a t e h i g h p r e ss u r e s od i u m v a p o r l a m p s i n s t ea d
o f t h e m e t a l h a l i d e l a m p s
7. A t h r ee -f o o t c l e a r s p ace a r o u n d f i r e h y d r a n t s s h a l l b e p r o v i d e d . F i r e C o d e s ec . 508 .5
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8. N o t h i n g s h a l l b e p l ace d n ea r f i r e h y d r a n t s o r f i r e d e p a r t m e n t i n l e t c o nn ec t i o n s t h a t w o u l d
d e t e r o r h i n d e r f r o m g a i n i ng im m e d i a t e acce ss . F i r e C o d e s ec . 508 .5 .4 .
9. N o P I V (p o s t i n d i ca t o r v a l v e ) w ill b e r e q u i r e d .
10. C o n t a c t F i r e M a r s h a l f o r l o ca t i o n o f “N o P a r k i n g F i r e L a ne ” s i g n s , a n d c u r b i ng t o b e p a i n t e d
y e l l o w .
11. P a r k f e e s i n t h e a m o u n t o f $31 ,387 .6 7 s h a l l b e p a i d a t t h e t i m e o f b u i l d i ng p e r m i t i ss u a n c e .
12. T h e b u i l d i ng s a r e r e q u i r e d t o h a v e a n a u t o m a t i c f i r e e x t i n g u i s h i ng s y s t e m .
13. T h e p l a n s m u s t b e p r e p a r e d a n d s i g n e d b y d e s i g n p r o f e s s i o n a l s l i c e n s e d i n t h e S t a t e o f
M i nn e s o t a .
14. R e t a i n i ng w a l l s f o u r f ee t h i g h o r h i gh e r r e q u i r e a b u il d i ng p e r m i t a n d m u s t b e d e s i g n e d b y a
s t r u c t u r a l e n g i n e e r r e g i s t e r e d i n t h e S t a t e o f M i nn e s o t a .
15. T h e a p p li ca n t s h a ll i n c r ea s e t h e i n s i d e w i d t h o f a ll i s l a n d s a n d /o r p e n i n s u l a s t o 1 0 f ee t o r
g r ea t e r .
16. T r ee p r e s e r v a t i o n f e n c i ng i s r e q u i r e d t o b e i n s t a ll e d p r i o r t o a n y c o n s t r u c t i o n a l o n g t h e n o r t h
a n d w e s t p r o p e r t y li n e s .
17. O n t h e G r a d i n g p l a n :
a. S h o w t h e e x i s t i n g c o n t o u r s o n t h e ea s t s i d e o f t h e s i t e . P r o v i d e s p o t e l e v a t i o n s o f t h e
d r i v e w a y c o n n ec t i o n s .
b. S h o w N W L a n d H W L o n t h e p o n d .
c. A dd b e n c h m a r k .
d. R e du ce s l o p e o n t h e s o u t h e r n d r i v e .
18. E n c r o ac h m e n t a g r ee m e n t s w i l l b e n e e d e d p r i o r t o b u i l d i ng p e r m i t i s s u a n c e f o r a n y d r i v e w a y
o r r e t a i n i ng w a ll i n t h e d r a i n a g e a n d u t i l i t y e a s e m e n t .
19. O n t h e U t i l i t y p l a n :
a. P r o v i d e d e t a il s o f ea c h u t i l i t y c r o s s i ng .
b. A dd c l e a n o u t t o t h e s a n i t a r y s e w e r s e r v i c e .
c. A dd n o t e t o n o t i f y C i t y o f C h a n h a s s e n U t i l i t y D e p a r t m e n t 48 h o u r s p r i o r t o c o nn ec t i n g t o
t h e w a t e r m a i n (952 -227 -1300 ).
d. W a t e r m a i n m u s t b e l oo p e d a r o u n d t h e b u il d i ng . T h i s w a t e r m a i n s h a l l b e p r i v a t e l y o w n e d
a n d m a i n t a i n e d .
20. S h o w l o ca t i o n o f h e a v y du t y v e r s u s li g h t du t y p a v e m e n t s ec t i o n s .
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21. A dd D e t a i l P l a t e s 3107 a n d 5215 .
22. T h e n o r t h e r n d r i v e w a y m u s t b e e i t h e r s h i f t e d t o t h e s o u t h t o r e m a i n o n t h e s i t e b e i ng
d e v e l o p e d o r s ec u r e a p r i v a t e d r i v e ea s e m e n t f r o m t h e p r o p e r t y t o t h e n o r t h .”
A l l vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a rr i e d un a n i m o u s l y w i t h a v o t e o f 4 t o 0 .
C O UNC I L P R E S E N T A T I O N S:
C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : M r . M a y o r I a c t u a l l y d i d s o m e t h i ng f o r t h e f i r s t t im e t h i s s u m m e r
t h a t I ’v e b e e n w a n t i n g t o d o f o r a l o n g t im e a n d S oph i e a n d I b i k e d f r o m o u r h o m e o n S a t u r d a y
m o r n i n g t o t h e f a r m e r s m a r k e t . I ’v e b ee n m e a n i n g t o c h ec k i t o u t a n d w h a t a f u n t h i ng i t w a s s o
f o r t h o s e p e o p l e w h o h a v e n ’t b e e n t h e r e y e t , t a k e a d v a n t a g e o f i t a s t h e s u mm e r g o e s o n . I ’m
s u r e m o r e a n d m o r e p r o du c e i s g o i n g t o b e a v a i l a b l e a n d i t ’s a n o t h e r o n e o f t h o s e c o mm u n i t y
e v e n t s t h a t s h o u l d b e h a p p e n i n g e v e r y S a t u r d a y , s o a n o t h e r g o o d t h i n g t o d o i n C h a nh a s s e n o n a
S a t u r d a y m o r n i ng .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : V e r y go o d .
T o d d G e r h a r d t : W h a t k i n d o f b r ea d s a m p l e d i d y o u h a v e ?
C o u n c il w o m a n T j o r n h o m : T h e y j u s t , w h a t d i d t h e y h a v e ? C i n n a m o n c h i p s .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : V e r y go o d . T h a n k y o u . A n y o t h e r c o m m e n t s ? T h o ug h t s ? I w i l l j u s t s h a r e t h a t
I h a d a n o p p o r t un i t y w i t h o u r b u s y s c h e d u l e , o u r f i r s t o p p o r t un i t y t o a t t e n d t h e e v e n i ng c o n ce r t
i n t h e p a r k . P a r t o f t h e L u n c h t im e L y r i c s /T w i l i g h t T u n e s a c o up l e w ee k s a g o . A b o u t a w ee k o r
s o a g o , a n d v e r y e n j o y a b l e . G r ea t t u r n o u t . T h e c i t y s t a f f w a s t h e r e . D i d a g oo d j o b a s w e l l a s
t h e K l e i n B a n k w h o ’s s p o n s o r i n g i t t h i s y ea r , w a s v e r y ac t i v e a n d i f a g a i n , i f p e op l e h a v e n ’t h a d
a n o ppo r t un i t y t o t a k e i n t h o s e c o n ce r t s , I t h i n k t h e r e ’s o n e t h i s w ee k a n d p e r h a p s n e x t w ee k a r e
t h e f i n a l t w o . S o t r y t o m a k e o n e a n d n e x t y ea r w h e n t h e o p p o r t un i t y c o m e s up , t r y t o m a k e
t h o s e . I t ’s a g r ea t w a y t o s p e n d t h e e v e n i ng w i t h f a m il y a n d f r i e n d s s o . T h a n k y o u M r . H o ff m a n
a n d p l ea s e e x t e n d o u r t h a n k s t o y o u r s t a f f f o r a l l t h e w o r k t h e y d o i n o r g a n i z i ng t h o s e . I h ea r d a
l o t o f go o d c o mm e n t s w h i l e I w a s t h e r e f r o m j u s t p e o p l e s t o pp i n g m e a n d s a y i ng h o w m u c h t h e y
e n j o y i t a n d s o , p l e a s e e x t e n d t h a t g r a t i t ud e b ac k t o y o u r s t a f f a s w e ll .
T o d d H o ff m a n : I w ill .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . A n y t h i ng e l s e .
AD M I N I S T RA T I V E P R E S E N T A T I O N S:
T o d d G e r h a r d t : J u s t a c o up l e o f t h i n g s . L a r e do p r o j ec t i s m o v i ng a l o n g n i ce l y . W e d i d a l l o w
t h e m t o e x t e n d a f e w e x t r a h o u r s eac h d a y t o g e t t h e s c h oo l a r ea up a n d r unn i ng . W e ’r e d o w n t o
b a s i c a ll y 4 t o 5 w ee k s b e f o r e s c h oo l s t a r t s h e r e s o w e w a n t t o m a k e s u r e w e g e t t h a t a r ea
w r a pp e d up . A n d s e c o n d t h i n g , I w a n t t o t h a n k t h e M a y o r a n d c i t y s t a f f f o r h e l p i ng w i t h t h e
C h a m b e r p i c n i c . T h e C h a m b e r e v e n t l a s t T u e s d a y . T h e C i t y g r i l l e d h a m b u r g e r s a n d w e h a d
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po t a t o s a l a d f o r a l l t h e C h a m b e r m e m b e r s t h a t a t t e n d e d t h e m o n t h l y m e e t i n g a n d J e r r y w a s t h e r e
a l s o , s o i t w a s a go o d e v e n t . I g o t a l i t t l e n e r v o u s t h e r e i n g e tt i n g o u r c o a l s h o t e n o ug h b u t w e
go t t h e m g o i n g .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : N o b o d y n o t i ce d .
C o u n c i l m a n M c D o n a l d : W e l l a t l e a s t u n t i l h e b r oug h t i t up a g a i n .
T o d d G e r h a r d t : Y ea h . B u t y o u k n o w e v e r y t h i ng t u r n e d o u t w e l l . E v e r yb od y g o t a h a m b u r g e r
i n a t im e l y m a nn e r s o w e w e r e , L a u r i e k ee p s r e m i n d i ng m e , w e w e r e a h ea d o f t h e g a m e o f w h e n
w e w e r e s upp o s e d t o s e r v e s o . S o m a y b e I s h ou l d n ’t e v e n h a v e b r o ug h t i t up r i g h t ? B u t t h a n k
y o u f o r e v e r yb od y t h a t h e l p e d i n t h a t . T h a t w a s a f u n e v e n t a n d I t h i n k t h e C h a m b e r m e m b e r s
a pp r e c i a t e d i t a n d w e k i n d o f b r o k e i n t h e n e w p a r k s h e l t e r . I t w a s a t t h e n e w p a r k s h e l t e r a t
L a k e A n n s o i t w a s a n i ce v e n u e . N i ce , i t w a s a n i ce d a y . T h a t ’s a l l I h a v e .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : T h a n k y o u . A n y qu e s t i o n s f o r M r . G e r h a r d t o r s t a ff ? N o ?
C O RR E S P O ND E N C E D I S CU SS I O N. N o n e .
M a y o r F u r l o n g : W e w il l c o n t i n u e o u r i t e m s o f u n f i n i s h e d b u s i n e ss i n t h e w o r k s e s s i o n
im m e d i a t e l y f o l l o w i ng . I f t h e r e i s n o t h i n g e l s e t o c o m e b e f o r e t h e c o u n c i l t h i s e v e n i ng , i s t h e r e a
m o t i o n t o a d j o u r n ?
C o un c i l w o m a n E r n s t m ov e d , C o un c i l m a n M c D o n a l d s ec o nd e d t o a d j o u r n t h e m ee t i n g . A ll
vo t e d i n f avo r a nd t h e m o t i o n c a r r i e d w i t h a v o t e o f 4 t o 0 . T h e C i t y C o un c i l m ee t i ng w a s
a d j o u r n e d a t 9 :3 0 p .m .
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
JULY 15 2008
Acting Chair Larson called the meeting to order at 7 00 p m
MEMBERS PRESENT Kevin Dillon Kathleen Thomas Debbie Larson Mark Undestad
Denny Laufenburger and Dan Keefe
MEMBERS ABSENT Kurt Papke
STAFF PRESENT Kate Aanenson Community Development Director and Bob Generous
Senior Planner
PUBLIC HEARING
ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 20 ZONING
Bob Generous presented the staff report regarding temporary signage community signage and
drive thru facilities Commissioner Laufenburger asked how the drive thru amendment would affect the conditions of approval for the County Service Center Commissioner Keefe asked if
staff had any feedback on the permanent reader signs being a distraction to traffic and
clarification on permitted materials Commissioner Dillon asked how the size of the electronic
community signs compared to the size of signs permitted in other zoning districts Chair Larson
opened the public hearing No one spoke and the public hearing was closed
Dillon moved Thomas seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends
the City Council adopt the attached ordinance amending Chapter 20 of the Chanhassen
City Code All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Laufenburger noted the verbatim and
summary minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated July 1 2008 as presented
Chair Larson adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 7 15 p m
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JULY 15 2008
Acting Chair Larson called the meeting to order at 7 00 p m
MEMBERS PRESENT Kevin Dillon Kathleen Thomas Debbie Larson Mark Undestad
Denny Laufenburger and Dan Keefe
MEMBERS ABSENT Kurt Papke
STAFF PRESENT Kate Aanenson Community Development Director and Bob Generous
Senior Planner
PUBLIC HEARING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 20 ZONING
Generous Thank you Chair Larson and commissioners We had previously reviewed some of rd this stuff on our June 3 Planning Commission at a work session However when we brought
the rest of them forward these were left off and so it s a little bit of clean up The first one deals with the temporary signs that the city permits Right now our ordinance would permit this type
of signage on the property and so we want to we re trying to develop ordinance language to
provide an opportunity for people to put up these temporary signs However to limit it s visual
impacts on people driving by on the street So the first changes proposed for Section 20 1256
shows up on page 2 of the staff report and we talk about banners attached to the principal building and then detached banners which these are having a limitation of height of 5 feet Or 6
feet I m sorry which is similar to what our portable signs are permitted as well as having a sign
area limitation of 32 square feet That language would specifically exclude the use of some
signage like this Also we would limit the signage location to at the entrance driveway into the
site So on this specific property since there are two driveways they would be able to put up two separate temporary signs So that s what this is And also we wanted to clarify that when a
business opens up they can have a 30 day display period but the language says that you either
have that or you can do it 3 times a year for 10 days so we want to give a new business an
opportunity to let people know that they re there and give them their 30 days And then also if a
business in the later on in the year wants to have a special event or a sale or something like that that they can get additional signage for that specific purpose So we clarified that under Section
20 1256 So those are the proposed changes to the temporary signs Next changes we talked
about was a community sign at a government institution like a high school Chaska has their
signage and they have the motion sign Minnetonka High School has a sign and motion sign
Riley Purgatory the recreation area in Eden Prairie has their signage and a motion sign However our ordinance didn t provide for that It required a separate conditional use permit so
we re developing standards within the OI district that would permit governmental agencies to
have these signage and we have all the regulations We ve adopted we ve brought forward the
standards from the typical motion sign except for we ve expanded the potential sign display area
for the motion sign to 40 square feet in case we want to get more community information or education listings on a specific sign We ve looked at the ones that were out there and none of
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the sign areas exceeded what we re proposing in our ordinance Some of the height is different
We re limiting them to 8 feet which is the largest sign that we permit in our industrial district so there is some parity involved with what the city would get and what other businesses would
have
Aanenson I just want to clarify too Bob used the term OI I just want to clarify that s our
Office Institutional so really that would be any of the school sites City Hall is located on OI The library s on an OI zoning district Kind of institutional so we do anticipate that the new
high school will want one of these type of signs and the city is also looking at providing
something like this too so it d really be for those districts that would be more of the community
in nature where you re talking about upcoming activities Whether it s a book sale at the library
or activity at the high school provide that opportunity so that s the OI district that we re looking at
Keefe So it s not industrial It s office
Aanenson It s institutional That s what I wanted to clarify that it s institutional Yeah
Generous It s very limited One of the other places our Rec Center at Bluff Creek elementary
Aanenson Yeah The place we did give one to is Chapel Hill has a little reader sign at their
school so it seems appropriate at a school and there s activities as would be for city hall or a library something like that so And it may be some time in the future if the license center
wanted a small one to say hours of operation Those sort of things They might want to put a
smaller that type of sign out there
Generous So we developed these standards and they would be they d be permissible rather than coming through a conditional use permit so as long as they complied with these standards
we d issue the permit So and then finally we were talking before about drive thru facilities I
mean currently the only time we address it is in the drive thru bank facilities which is a
conditional standards under conditional use permit We did survey other communities and see
what their standards were We also looked at our the city s experience with drive thru s to see The big thing we wanted to do is try to address the differentiate stacking requirements We
know that fast food restaurants have a larger stacking requirement than say a pharmacy and so
we put these in there The standards also look at locational issues and setbacks from property
lines especially from residential areas And so we re looking at adopting these specific
standards as criteria for reviewing it and then any drive thru that comes in as long as it complied with that we would be able to permit it Either as through a site plan or as part of a remodel of a
building with their building permit
Aanenson Then I just want to clarify on that too The intent of these standards would be the
criteria for the drive thru We re not at this point with this ordinance amendment telling you what zoning districts We re going to have that discussion later in our work session but this
would be the standards And then we ve talked about modifying some of our districts to allow
different types of drive thru s and we ve talked about whether a dry cleaner has the same impact
as a pharmacy as a bank so those are different but this is the criteria portion of it right now
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which we discussed in another work session so we ll come back with a separate ordinance on
which district they ll go on based on your work session later tonight
Generous So and then with that we would be deleting one section of the code which has the
standards just for banks and incorporate it into new standards so with that staff is recommending
approval of recommendation to approve the ordinance amendments to Chapter 20 With that I d
be happy to answer any questions
Larson Questions Kevin you want to start
Dillon I don t have any questions right now
Larson Denny
Laufenburger I do have one So when we talked about the service center we gave approval to
their drive up window Was that a conditional use or was that a what was the what was the
characteristic of that approval
Generous It was approved in conjunction with their site plan There was no conditional use
standard for that specifically
Laufenburger So it does let s assume that we approve this and it s approved by City Council etc Then do we have to go back and report to the service center people that now you re drive up
window is fully acceptable and no longer any restrictions that may have been on it before
Generous Well their approval for the drive thru window was specified as part of a site plan so
they were to extend the taper if you remember on the drive thru side
Laufenburger I do yep
Generous Just to give a little more separation in the drive aisle
Laufenburger Okay so there s no more privilege that they would gain from this than they
already have as a service center
Generous Correct
Aanenson That s a good question
Laufenburger That s what I needed to know Thank you That was my only question Thank
you
Aanenson And again we tried to develop a criteria because I think there s some things that are
more audible and take longer for example fast food tends to be a little bit more noise and
direction with pushing as opposed to maybe just dry cleaner you pull up and there s not as much
you know you pull up to the window There s not talking through a speaker box and stacking
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and noise So those are some of the criteria we tried to look at where you know how that works
and stacking and then that s going to come into play when we talk about later What zoning districts seem to make some sense and what s the neighboring land use
Larson Dan you have any questions
Keefe Just one follow up question on the permanent signs You know when they first came out it s sort of like wow they re really distracting You know do they cause traffic issues I mean
has there been any sort of follow up on that or would we put any limitations around you know
what they might be in terms of safety
Aanenson I think some of the discussion we had before in the work session was that because the writing was vertical and you had to read it kind of side Are you talking about this sign
Keefe Yeah
Aanenson Oh I m sorry I thought you were talking about the temporary signs
Keefe No permanent ones
Generous Our concern has always been with the motion and flashing elements
Keefe Right And I m just I m talking about just the permanent sign and what goes on it I
mean my eyes you always go like that when I m driving down and you know kind of eye
catching
Aanenson We did make some we did make some changes with that I don t know when we looked at the Chapel Hill and also when we had a business over on the Byerly s shopping center
that was very intense so we changed it The technical term is Nits and the intensity level and so
there are standards for that that they have to when they submit their permit talk about intensity
of light Their Nits and then frequency of change So that s built into the ordinance too on this
sign
Keefe Okay Good
Undestad No nothing here
Larson I haven t got anything either
Dillon So I just have one thing So like the signs the community signs as it relates to kind of
like a commercial sign You know we have the development that was they had the Kwik Trip
that they wanted a bigger sign than was normally allowed So what is the are the dimensions of these and that are they similar or is one bigger than the other and
Generous These would be bigger than what would be permitted at a commercial site
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Dillon Okay
Generous Especially the sign display area is a little bit bigger The other standards are all the
same
Aanenson Again looking at this kind of looking at the rationale basis for that is the community
draw on that and then if you re looking at like the high school site being closer to 90 acres In looking at kind of this square area and that draw I think that s some of the things we looked at
to make it sufficient Certainly I mean I don t anticipate a sign on if there was to be a sign on
this site to be as big as maybe a high school site sign
Generous Right and in the staff report we do we did show an example of what they re currently looking at for the downtown area on page 5 of the report
Aanenson So it s pretty small
Generous It would be minimal yeah 7 8 inches tall
Aanenson Yeah
Dillon So then if we adopt this motion and it goes to the City Council and it s all part of the
plan then So if someone wants to have a sign that s bigger or you know out of spec here what is the process that they would then follow
Generous That would be a variance process
Dillon And what would our or the staff s attitude towards those you know as a generalization be towards a variance in a sign request
Generous They would be have the burden to show that our ordinance does not provide them
with sufficient opportunity there to advertise
Aanenson And typically we look at maybe there s some topographic reasons Maybe their site
is very large Yeah the site s very large and they need something that matches the scale just
like we were talking about before so those are kind of that we would look at those sort of things
Maybe there s just some other reasons that would make some sense that they would have a
bigger sign
Dillon So is it in your the staff s opinion that these all the details in the motion here I mean
would kind of minimize the number of variance requests that you have
Aanenson Trying to
Generous Yeah for the OI definitely We haven t found one that would exceed it The school
was looking at a 8 foot sign and we said that we were looking at 8 foot so they were willing to
drop the 6 inches
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Dillon Alright
Keefe I have one other just additional question on the sign Just are we specifying materials in
terms of our because we re specifying size right But in terms of what they look like I mean
they vary a little bit in terms of what you provided in the staff report but I mean is that
something that we have thought about or
Generous No That s covered separately under our standards It has to be blend in with
whatever development is part of And so the monumentation would have block for instance if
that s what the building was They have the faux stone finish on the bottom Could be brick you th know like the West 78 Street
Dillon In this example here is the brick tower thing you know considered part of the sign
Generous Only it s considered part of the height The sign would be the rectangular on the
right side Down to the ledge area That s how we would calculate it We d make our rectangle around that
Dillon And so it s just an ornament or
Generous Basically
Larson There s no restrictions on having any ornamentation on the signs
Generous Only as far as height
Larson Okay
Generous So it d have to be it couldn t be higher than 8 feet
Larson Okay
Generous 5 feet in some other districts Depends on the district
Larson Okay Anyone else No Okay well I ll open the hearing up to the public Seeing not
too many people standing up the podium I will close the hearing And discuss Anybody want to Kevin
Dillon No I think the it looks pretty thorough and you know it looks like it s going to
accommodate most every situation that we encounter out there I think it s good to try to
minimize the number of variances so just make you know lessen the debate and everyone has expectations properly set coming into these things so I would be
Larson Kathleen
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Thomas Same thing
Laufenburger I want to commend the staff For 30 years I ve been looking for a better
definition of the term nit and now I have one No other questions
Larson Okay Dan
Keefe I m fine with it
Larson Mark
Undestad Yep
Larson Alright I guess we are looking for a motion Kevin go ahead
Dillon I make a motion that the Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends the City
Council adopt the attached ordinance amending Chapter 20 of the Chanhassen City Code
Larson Do you have a second anyone
Thomas Second
Dillon moved Thomas seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends
the City Council adopt the attached ordinance amending Chapter 20 of the Chanhassen
City Code All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Laufenburger noted the verbatim and summary minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated July 1 2008 as presented
Chair Larson adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 7 15 p m
Submitted by Kate Aanenson Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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C H AN H A SS E N P AR K AND
R E CR E A T I O N C O MM I SS I O N
R E G U L AR M EET I N G
S U M M ARY M I NU TE S
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n u m b e r o f a t h l e t i c f i e l d s w i t h i n t h e c o mm u n i t y . C o m m i ss i o n e r S m i t h a s k e d i f t h e r e w e r e a n y
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u s i n g b o n d i ng a u t h o r i t y t o p u r c h a s e a d d i t i o n a l p a r k l a n d . C o m m i ss i o n e r S c h a r f e n b e r g a s k e d f o r
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n ee d e d f o r y o u t h b a ll , c i t i n g e x a m p l e s f r o m S o u t h T o n k a . T o d d H o f f m a n s ugg e s t e d t h e
c o m m i ss i o n t o u r p o s s i b l e s i t e s i n J u n e .
R E CR E A T I O N P R OG RA M S R E P O R T S:
L A K E ANN P AR K S U M M E R S C H E DU LE. J e rr y R u e g e m e r upd a t e d t h e c o m m i ss i o n o n t h e
p r o g r a m m i ng s c h e d u l e d t h i s s u m m e r a t L a k e A n n P a r k . C o m m i ss i o n e r S t o l a r a s k e d f o r a n
upd a t e o n t h e p r o g r e ss o f t h e P a r kv i e w p i c n i c s h e l t e r .
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s u mm e r a s a n i n f o r m a t i o n a l i t e m .
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AD M I N I S T RA T I V E P R E S E N T A T I O N S:
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c i t y s t a f f a n d C o mmi ss i o n e r S c h a r f e n b e r g f o r t h e i r p a r t i c i p a t i o n i n o r g a n i z i ng t h e e v e n t . T o dd
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p r o j ec t t o u r s. I t w a s d ec i d e d t h a t c o mmi ss i o n m e m b e r s w ou l d s e n d a v a il a b l e d a t e s t o T o dd
H o ff m a n f o r t h e w ee k f o l l o w i ng t h e 4 th o f J u l y ce l e b r a t i o n (J u l y 6 th t h r o ug h t h e 10 th ).
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t h e C i t y o f C h a n h a s s e n p a r t i c i p a t e i n ca p i t a l i m p r o v e m e n t s i n C a t h ca r t P a r k .
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h i s e m a i l s u m m a r i z i n g t h e s y m p o s i u m h e a t t e n d e d l a s t m o n t h , n o t i n g t h e b e s t i d ea h e h ea r d w a s
t h e s ugg e s t i o n o f a n a n n u a l m ee t i n g w i t h n e i g h b o r i ng p a r k a n d r ec r ea t i o n a s s o c i a t i o n s t o s h a r e
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
O
Paul Oehme Dir of Public Works City Engineer
O
FROM
DATE August 11 2008
SUBJ Proposed Downtown SouthWest Transit Park Ride Facility Project
08 11 Approve Consultant Contract for Site Improvements
PROPOSED MOTION
The City Council approves Move to approve a consultant contract with Kimley
Horn and Associates me for the Downtown SouthWest Transit Park Ride Facility
Site Improvements
City Council approval requires a simple majority vote of the City Council
present
In 2006 SouthWest Transit secured 7 million in federal funds to be used for the
construction of a new Park Ride facility in downtown Chanhassen The new multi
level ramp could accommodate up to 450 vehicles Currently SouthWest Transit
operates a one acre Park Ride facility up to 120 vehicles behind the Chanhassen
Dinner Theatres
For this project to move ahead the City needs to take the lead in providing access to
the new facility For the past six months representatives from SouthWest Transit
Bloomberg Companies and City staff have been discussing alternative locations for
the new Park Ride facility The criteria used in determining the final location was
as follows
Provide for bus and rider access from both the east and west of the proposed
ramp
Maximize future development opportunities surrounding the Dinner Theatres
Maximize the number of parking stalls on a minimal amount of land
Preserve the current location of the Chanhassen Depot
Overview of the Proiect
For this project to occur the City needs to build a new road to access the facility The
following steps need to be completed for the road to be built
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Acquire 22 000 sq ft of land for the road right of way
Acquire the Dinner Theatres scene shop building
Relocate the scene shop to a new location
Acquire the Chanhassen Depot land
Upgrade and relocate utilities including sewer water gas and electricity
How Would We Pay for These Improvements
Both SouthWest Transit and Bloomberg Companies have agreed to be assessed for all
of the roadway costs including all of the land acquisitions with the exception of the
Chanhassen Depot parcel which would be the responsibility of the City of
Chanhassen The only exception is that the City would pick up the outstanding
assessments for Bloomberg if they bring in new developments that enhance the
current tax base for parcels owned by Bloomberg Companies The remaining
property around the Park Ride facility could potentially accommodate an
apartment retail offices and or a hotel For this to occur the City and Bloomberg
Companies would have to enter into a Master Redevelopment Agreement ensuring
Bloomberg Companies that the City would create a tax increment financing district
To the degree that new taxes are generated from the TIP district they would be used
to write down the special assessments for the new roadway If Bloomberg
Companies do not enhance the tax base with new developments they will be
responsible for 100 of the assessments
Preliminary Proiect Costs
Preliminary Summary Allocation of Costs
Bloomberg Companies 70 of land and road reconstruction 788 200
costs and 100 of Scene Shop Relocation
SouthWest Transit 30 of land and road construction costs 337 800
Total Assessments 1 126 000
City of Chanhassen utilities and depot land acquisition costs 214 000
Note These numbers are subject to change once the feasibility study is completed
Consultant Contract
Kimley Horn will provide feasibility study final design and construction phase
services for the Downtown Transit Station Site Improvements The project includes
the construction of approximately 1 000 feet of public street and associated storm
sewer and watermain improvements and the demolition of the existing scene shop for
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the Chanhassen Dinner Theater This project is relatively small however has many
phase and construction items that need to be coordinated and designed
The following is a summary of the consultant scope of services for these
improvements
1 Feasibility Study Phase
The feasibility study phase services will include the following
Gather existing as built information for the project area A field review will
be conducted of the project area to confirm the information in the as builts
and to identify any special project issues concerns
Organize and conduct a kick off meeting with City staff to discuss the scope
of work budget and schedule for the project
After gathering the existing conditions information and conducting the kick
off meeting Kimley Horn will investigate the proposed improvements and
prepare a draft feasibility report The feasibility report will be prepared based
upon the following outline
o Proposed Improvements
o Right of Way Easement Requirements
o Estimated Costs
o Proposed Financing Plan
o Proposed Assessments with Preliminary Assessment Roll
o Proposed Schedule
o Summary and Recommendations
The feasibility report will include exhibits illustrating the proposed improvements
The feasibility study phase will include the preparation of a traffic impact analysis for
the construction of the parking ramp and the associated site development The traffic
impact analysis will investigate impacts at the two ramp access roadway intersections
at Great Plains Boulevard and Market Boulevard City staff will complete all traffic
counts required for the traffic impact analysis
2 Final Design Phase
Upon City Council approval of the feasibility report and the authorization of the final
plans and specifications Kimley Horn will complete the following services as a part
of the Final Design phase of the project
Final plans will be prepared detailing the street storm drainage and water
main improvements included in the feasibility report
o Construction Details Notes
o Existing Conditions Erosion Control and Removal Building
Demolition Plans
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o Street and Storm Sewer PlanIProfile Drawings
o Water Main and Sanitary Sewer PlanlProfile Drawings
o Roadway Cross Sections and Earthwork Tabulation
o Street light Plans and Details
Two separate bid packages will be prepared for the improvements Bid Package 1
will include building demolition and utility relocation work Bid Package 2 will
include street and storm sewer improvements
A Project Manual will be prepared to include bidding documents general
contract conditions and technical specifications required for the bidding of
the work A separate Project Manual will be prepared for Bid Package 1 and
Bid Package 2
Upon the completion of the final plans and Project Manual Kimley Hom will
prepare an engineer s estimate of probable construction cost for the proposed
improvements Separate cost estimates will be prepared for Bid Package 1
and Bid Package 2
Permits
A MPCA NPDES permit application form for the project will be completed
A separate Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan SWPPP and MPCA
permit for the public improvements will be completed
A Minnesota Department of Health permit application will be submitted for
approval
Biddin2 Services
Kimley Horn will assist in the bidding process for the project including the following
Reproduction and distribution of the plans and Project Manual
Respond to contractor questions during the bidding process and prepare
addenda
Attend the bid opening
Prepare a bid tabulation and provide a bid summary letter for the project
Preparation of Final Assessment Roll
Kimley Hom will work with City staff to prepare a final assessment roll for the
project based upon the actual bid prices and final project costs
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Meetine s
The following meetings are included as a part of the Scope of Services for the Final
Design phase
City Council Meetings
o Kimley Horn will attend up to two 2 City Council meetings
City Staff Meetings
o Kimley Horn will attend up to three 3 meetings with City staff
and or SouthWest Transit
Survevin2 for Final Desi2n Services
Kimley Hom will utilize information provided in the ALTA ACSM Land Title
Survey completed for Bloomberg Companies by Egan Field Nowak Inc
Additional topographic survey work will be completed to expand upon this available
information
Geotechnical Exploration
Kimley Horn will coordinate the borings and geotechnical exploration information
for the project site and obtain a soils report
Rie ht of Wav Easements
Kimley Hom will help identify the right of way and or easements that will be
required for the public infrastructure SouthWest Transit will be responsible for the
identification of property and or easements for the ramp construction The scope of
services includes the preparation of a plat to identify the various parcels required for
the ramp and site improvements The services also include the preparation of legal
descriptions and exhibits for temporary construction easements that are not included
on the plat
Environmental Reviews
The Scope of Services includes a Hazardous Building Material Survey for the
demolition of the scene shop
Phase I Environmental Site Assessment ESA for the project area will be obtained by
SouthWest Transit for both the parking ramp and the associated site improvements
and that this information will be provided for use in the preparation of the final plans
and specifications
3 Construction Phase
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Construction Observation
Construction observation will be provided part time 30 hours week for the duration
of the estimated 20 week construction schedule both bid packages Any additional
observation time would be additional services The services include construction
meetings with contractors utility companies and SouthWest Transit
Material Testin2
Kimley Horn will coordinate construction material testing for the project Kimley
Horn Scope of Services also includes material testing during construction
Construction material testing will be performed by a Kimley Horn subconsultant
Construction Stakin2
Kimley Horn will provide construction staking for the improvements These services
will be performed Egan Field Nowak as a Kimley Horn subconsultant
As built Drawin2s
Upon completion of the improvements preparation of as built drawings for the
project will be drafted and provided to the City
Abatement Consultation and Observation
Kimley Horn will provide consultation and periodic observation of abatement that
may be required for the demolition of the scene shop building These services will be
provided by Braun Intertec as a Kimley Horn subconsultant
SCHEDULE
The following is a possible schedule for the project
City Council Approve Consultant Contract
City Council Receive Feasibility Report
City Council Considers Site PlanIPlat Approval
August 11 2008
September 22 2008
November 10 2008
Building Demolition and Utility Relocations
City Council Approves Plans Authorizes Ad for Bids
City Council A ward Contract
Start Construction
Construction Complete
January 26 2009
March 9 2009
March 30 2009
May 22 2009
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Street and Storm Sewer Improvements
City Council Approve Plans Authorize Ad for Bids
Bid Opening
City Council Award Contract
Start Construction
Construction Complete
January 2010
February 2010
March 2010
April 2010
August 2010
Notes
1 Schedule assumes that special assessment agreements will be executed with
both SouthWest Transit and Bloomberg Companies and that a public hearing
will not be required
2 Schedule for street and storm sewer improvements must be coordinated with
the schedule for the ramp construction It is assumed that this work will be
completed in late 2009 to allow for an opening of the Downtown Transit
Station in the spring of 2010
The consultant fees for the above scope of work are estimated at 179 500 Staff has
reviewed the estimated costs for each of these items and finds them reasonable for the
scope of services These fees will be assessed back to the benefiting property owners
The contract will be a time and materials based work not to exceed amount As with
all engineering contracts the consultant must submit periodic invoices that staff will
review before processing The consultant will be required to submit timesheets
verifying the hours worked on the project and expense sheets Staff will review the
invoices and expense sheets for accuracy and conformance to the contract
Attachments 1 Site Plan for the new Ramp and Roadway
2 Map indicating SouthWest Transit s existing Park Ride
Easement Area Property Owned by Bloomberg Companies and
Potential TIP District
c Jon Horn Kimley Horn Associates Inc
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
FROM Bob Generous Senior Planner
Sharmeen Al Jaff Senior Planner
DATE August 11 2008
City Code Amendment
Chapter 20 Zoning Signage
SUBJ
PROPOSED MOTIONS
The Chanhassen City Council adopts the attached ordinance amending Chapter
20 of the Chanhassen City Code Approval of this item requires a simple
majority vote
And
The Chanhassen City Council approves the Summary Ordinance for Publication
Purposes Approval of this item requires a 4 5 vote
BACKGROUND
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on the attached ordinance
amendments on June 17 and July 15 2008 at which time they voted unanimously to
recommend approval to the City Council The amendments went before the City
Council at a work session on July 28 2008 The City Council made one change to
increase the sign display area for Public Community Signs from 64 square feet to 120
square feet
RECOMMENDA TION
Staff and the Planning Commission recommend that the City Council adopt the
following motions
The Chanhassen City Council adopts the attached ordinance amending Chapter 20 of
the Chanhassen City Code
And
The City Council approves the attached summary ordinance for publication
ATTACHMENTS
1
2
3
Ordinance Amending Chapter 20 Zoning
Summary Ordinance for Publication Purposes
Staff report dated July 28 2008
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA
ORDINANCE NO
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 20
ZONING
CHANHASSEN CITY CODE
THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF CHANHASSEN MINNESOTA ORDAINS
Section 1 Section 20 1255 1 of the City Code City of Chanhassen Minnesota is hereby
amended to read as follows
1 Political campaign signs Temporary political campaign signs are permitted according to the
following
a The sign must contain the name of the person responsible for such sign and that person
shall be responsible for its removal
b Signs are not permitted in the public right of way or within the sight triangle
c Shall comply with the fair campaign practices act contained the M S ch 211B 045
d The city shall have the right to remove and destroy signs not conforming to this
subsection
e Permitted from August 1 in a state general election year until 10 days following the
state general election and thirteen 13 weeks prior to any special election until ten
10 days following the speci l election
f No such sign shall be located within one hundred 100 feet of any polling site
g Sign shall be located on private property with permission of the property owner
Section 2 Section 20 1256 of the City Code City of Chanhassen Minnesota is hereby amended
to read as follows
Temporary signs are permitted as follows
1 Banners attached to the principal structure shall not exceed 140 square feet
2 Detached banners shall not exceed 32 square feet and 6 feet in height
3 fll l Portable signs shall not exceed 32 square feet and 6 feet in height
4 fll l All temporary signage shall meet the following standards
a A 30 day display period to coincide with the grand opening of a business or a new
development business park or shopping center or a business may display a banner or
portable sign on three occasions per calendar year lith a maxim1 lm ten day display
period for each occasion which shall be in addition to Sec 20 1256 4 b
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b A business may display an attached or detached banner or portable sign on three
occasions per calendar year with a maximum ten day display period for each
occasion
cJr Messages must relate to on premises products or services or any noncommercial
message and
d Banners must be located on the property affixed to a principal structure which is owned
or leased by the business which the sign is advertising Nonprofit and governmental
event banners are excluded from this provision
e 4Portable signs and detached banners shall not be located in the public right of way
f Portable signs and detached banners are limited to the driveway entrance area and
g No more than one portable sign or detached banner shall be permitted per entrance
at any given time
Section 3 Section 20 1267 of the City Code City of Chanhassen Minnesota is hereby
amended to read as follows
1 All permanent signs shall be designed and constructed in a uniform manner and to the extent
possible as an integral part of the building s architecture Multi tenant commercial and
industrial buildings shall have uniform signage When buildings or developments are
presented for site plan review proposed signs for the development should shall be presented
concurrently for staff review All planned centers and multi tenant buildings shall submit a
comprehensive sign plan for approval by the Planning Commission and City Council
a All wall signage shall use individual dimensional letters at least one half inch in depth
deep and logos Registered trademarks company symbols display messages less
than 6 inches tall pictorial presentations illustrations or decorations anything
other than wording and less than 20 percent of the total sign display area are
exempt from the individual dimension letter requirement
b Wall signs shall be backlit if a wall sign is illuminated and be architecturally compatible
with the building and other signage if in a multi tenant building Company symbols
display messages pictorial presentations illustrations or decorations anything other
than wording
c Company logos shall not occupy more than 30 percent of the sign display area
2 All permanent monument or pylon signs shall be designed and constructed in a uniform
manner and to the extent possible as an integral part of the building s architecture
Multi tenant commercial and industrial buildings shall have uniform signage When
buildings or developments are presented for site plan review proposed signs for the
development shall be presented concurrently for staff review All planned centers and
multi tenant buildings shall submit a comprehensive sign plan for approval by the
Planning Commission and City Council
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a All center development name or an individual tenant building signage on a
monument or pylon sign shall use individual dimension letters at least one half inch
deep
b Registered trademarks company symbols display messages less than 6 inches tall
pictorial presentations illustrations or decorations anything other than wording
and less than 20 percent of the total sign display area are exempt from the
individual dimension letter requirement
c In multi tenant buildings tenant panels may be used and shall be exempt from the
individual dimension letter requirement
d Company logos shall not occupy more than 30 percent of the sign display area and
are exempt from the individual dimension letter requirement
Section 4 Sections 20 1302 2 20 1303 3 and 20 1304 3 of the City Code City of
Chanhassen Minnesota is hereby amended to read as follows
Wall business signs
a One wall business sign shall be permitted on the street frontage for each business
occupant within a building In multi tenant buildings where individual entrances do not
front on a public street a wall sign may be permitted on the entrance facade consistent
with the approved comprehensive sign plan
b The sign may contain the name aflEllogo company symbols display messages
pictorial presentations illustrations or decorations of the business only and shall
have a sign display area that is in compliance with the district standards Wall business
signs shall not be mounted upon the wall of any building which faces any adjoining
residential district without an intervening building or street The total of an wall
mounted sign display areas for eaoh business shall not exceed the square footage
established in the following table
c The total of all wall mounted sign display areas for each business shall not exceed the
square footage established in the following table
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Maximum Percentage Wall Area in Square Feet Total Square Fottage
of Wall Area Of Signs
15 0 600 99
13 601 1 200 Be
11 1 201 1 800 l 9
9 1 801 2 400
7 2 401 3 200
5 3 201 4 500 2W
3 not to exceed 275 Square Feet 4 500
Section 5 Section 20 1302 ofthe City Code City ofChanhassen Minnesota is hereby
amended by adding subsection 4 which shall read as follows
Public Community Signs on property owned or leased by a governmental unit and
operated by a governmental unit
a One monument sign shall be permitted per site for each street frontage Such sign
shall not exceed 120 square feet in display area nor be greater than eight feet in height
b Electronic message center signs may be permitted as part of the sign display area Such
sign does not require a conditional use permit
c Electronic message center signs shall comply with the following standards
1 Electronic message center space used on a sign shall not exceed a total of 40 square
feet
2 No electronic message center sign may be erected that by reason of position shape
movement or color interferes with the proper functioning of a traffic sign signal or
which otherwise constitutes a traffic hazard
3 Electronic message center displays shall not exceed 5 000 Nits between the hours of
civil sunrise and civil sunset and shall not exceed 500 Nits between the hours of civil
sunset and civil sunrise
4 Electronic message center signs shall not cause direct glare nor become a distraction
due to excessive brightness
5 The lamp wattage and luminance level in candles per square meter Nits shall be
provided at the time of permit application
6 There shall be no electronic message center signs within 50 feet of a street
intersection as measured from intersecting right of way lines or within 125 feet of
a residential district except where lighting for such sign is indirect or diffused and
in no way constitutes a traffic hazard
7 The message displayed on electronic message center signs shall be depicted in one
statement and not a continuing sentence or flow of information Flashing scrolling
special effects or animated scenes on electronic reader boards shall be prohibited A
change in the message shall not occur less than every four seconds
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8 Electronic message center sign LED display use for signs within 500 feet of single
family residential homes shall be limited to the hours between 6 00 a m and 10 00
p m
Section 6 This ordinance shall be effective immediately upon its passage and publication
PASSED AND ADOPTED this day of 2008 by the City Council of the City
of Chanhassen Minnesota
Todd Gerhardt City Manager Thomas A Furlong Mayor
Published in the Chanhassen Villager on
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CITY OF CHANHA88EN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA
SUMMARY OF ORDINANCE NO
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 20
ZONING
CHANHASSEN CITY CODE
The purpose of this code amendment to Chapter 20 Zoning of the Chanhassen City Code
is to amend the sign ordinance providing standards for campaign signs providing standards for
temporary signs providing standards for uniformity of construction and design of permanent signs
allowing wall signs on non frontage entrances of a building allowing wall signage on buildings
abutting residential with an intervening street or building calculate wall sign area as a percentage of
total wall area and the addition of criteria for Public Community Signs including provisions for
motion signs
A printed copy of Ordinance No is available for inspection by any person during
regular office hours at the office of the City Manager Clerk
PASSED ADOPTED AND APPROVED FOR PUBLICATION this 11th day of August
2008 by the City Council of the City of Chanhassen
ATTEST
Todd Gerhardt ClerklManager Thomas A Furlong Mayor
Published in the Chanhassen Villager on
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
FROM Bob Generous Senior Planner
Sharmeen AI Jaff Senior Planner
DA TE July 28 2008
SUBJ City Code Amendment
Chapter 20 Zoning Signage
BACKGROUND
In anticipation of the adoption of the 2030 Comprehensive Plan staff is preparing
an update of the City Code to coincide with its adoption Staff has reviewed the
City Code and discovered issues shortfalls and general updates and prepared
amendments to the Code addressing these These amendments were discussed at
the June 3 2008 Planning Commission meeting The Planning Commission
unanimously recommended approval of the proposed code amendments at their
June 17 and July 15 2008 public hearings
The Planning Commission contemplated pylon signs in areas other than Highway
5 and recommended not to amend the ordinances at this time
The intent of the work session is to review the proposed changes with the City
Council Any modifications to these ordinance amendments directed by the City
Council will be made and the amendments will be placed on the August 11 2008
agenda for adoption
At this time staff will be focusing on issues related to Signage
The text of all final ordinance amendments is shown in strike through and bold
format
DISCUSSION
TEMPORARY SIGNS
Issue Due to the upcoming November Election campaign signs will soon be
erected around the city According to State Statute campaign signs are of
noncommercial nature therefore they may not be regulated and are allowed
without a permit However often campaign signs are put up too early placed in
the right of way or sight triangle do not meet the required setback from a polling
place or are placed on private property without permission Staff has reviewed
the City s current campaign sign ordinance Minnesota State Statutes 212B 045
and 212B 11 and queried other cities Based on that research staff is proposing
changes to the Campaign Sign ordinance that reflect Minnesota State Statutes and
the integrity of the community
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Todd Gerhardt City Manager
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State Statute
211B 045 Noncommercial Signs Exemption
In any municipality whether or not the municipality has an ordinance that regulates the size or
number of noncommercial signs all noncommercial signs of any size may be posted in any
number from August 1 in a state general election year until ten days following the state general
election
211B ll
This section forbids erection of campaign signs before Election Day for display on Election Day
within 100 feet of polling place
Proposed Change Amend Section 20 1255 as shown below
1 Political campaign signs Temporary political campaign signs are permitted according to the
following
a The sign must contain the name of the person responsible for such sign and that person
shall be responsible for its removal
b Signs are not permitted in the public right of way or within the sight triangle
c Shall comply with the fair campaign practices act contained the M S ch 2118 045
d The city shall have the right to remove and destroy signs not conforming to this
subsection
e Permitted from August 1 in a state general election year until 1 0 days following the
state general election and thirteen 13 weeks prior to any special election until ten
10 days following the special election
f No such sign shall be located within one hundred 100 feet of any polling site
g Sign shall be located on private property with permission of the property owner
Issue It is staffs intent to allow a 30 day banner or portable sign display period to coincide
with a grand opening in addition to the three 10 day display periods per calendar year The
current ordinance states that a business may have a banner or portable sign for 30 days to
coincide with a grand opening or three occasions per year with a maximum 1 O day display
period This does not benefit a new
business opening in the community as
they must choose to have either a grand
opening sign or to advertise their
business sale on three separate
occasions throughout the year Staff
proposes clarification of the regulations
to provide these opportunities for
businesses to both advertise their
openings and promote sales or events
throughout the year
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Issue The intent of the temporary sign ordinance is to allow tenants equal opportunity to
advertise their name and service However in a multi tenant building when all of the tenants
apply for temporary signs at the same time it can cause visual clutter on the site and be a
distraction to motorists Staff is proposing to limit the number of portable and detached banner
signs for a multi tenant building to one per entrance into the site
Issue The height of detached banners must also be addressed as some detached banners exceed
the height of the building Staff is proposing to limit the display area and height of detached
banners similar to the requirements for portable signs
The intent of the sign ordinance is to allow businesses an equal opportunity to advertise without
creating a Cluttered environment Based on the discussion at the Planning Commission work
session on June 3 2008 it was concluded that feather signs as shown in the above photo would
not be permitted
Proposed Change Amend Section 20 1256 as shown below
Sec 20 1256 Permit for temporary signs searchlights banners etc
Temporary signs are permitted as follows
1 Banners attached to the principal structure shall not exceed 140 square feet
2 Detached banners shall not exceed 32 square feet and 6 feet in height
3 ami Portable signs shall not exceed 32 square feet and 6 feet in height
4 ami All temporary signage shall meet the following standards
a A 30 day display period to coincide with the grand opening of a business or a new
development business park or shopping center or a business may display a banner or
portable sign on three occasions per calendar ar with a maximum too day display
period for eaeh occasion which shall be in addition to Sec 20 1256 4 b
b A business may display an attached or detached banner or portable sign on three
occasions per calendar year with a maximum ten day display period for each
occasion
dr Messages must relate to on premises products or services or any noncommercial
message and
d Banners must be located on the property affixed to a principal stmetl tre which is owned
or le sed by the business which the sign is advertising Nonprofit and governmental
event banners are excluded from this provision
e thPortable signs and detached banners shall not be located in the public right of way
f Portable signs and detached banners are limited to the driveway entrance area and
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g No more than one portable sign or detached banner shall be permitted per entrance
at any given time
PERMANENT SIGNS
Issue The current ordinance states that signage shall use individual dimension letters at least
one half inch in depth Staffs intent was to require all wall signage to maintain these standards
However the literal translation of the current design standards for signage requires all lettering
to be individual dimension a minimum Y2 inch deep This includes monument signs and multi
tenant panel signs Typically the panel on a multi tenant sign is inch thick To comply with
the Y2 inch depth this requires push through letters
Such lettering is much more costly to the applicant than
routing out the letters in the panel The dimension
lettering is less visible at a distance on a monument sign
than it is on a wall sign due to the scale of the sign Staff
proposes requiring dimension letters on a monument
sign for the name of the center or development only and
to permit the use of replaceable panels for tenant names
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Additionally staff is has been working on providing
opportunities for businesses to display their logos
company symbols and display messages in a reasonable
manner Staff had initially used a 30 percent sign area standard as part of the discussion for the
area to be permitted as logos or registered trademarks Upon further review staff recommended
a 20 percent standard would create a more proportionate sign and continue to make the
individual dimensioned lettering the dominate sign feature However the Planning Commission
reverted back to the original discussed size limitation and recommended that the logo may not
occupy more than 30 percent of the total sign area Staff and the Planning Commission are
further recommending that the display area advertising services not occupy more than 20 percent
of the total sign area
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Proposed Change Amend Section Sec 20 1267 Uniformity of construction design etc as
shown below
1 All permanent signs shall be designed and constructed in a uniform manner and to the extent
possible as an integral part of the building s architecture Multi tenant commercial and
industrial buildings shall have uniform signage When buildings or developments are
presented for site plan review proposed signs for the development should shall be presented
concurrently for staff review All planned centers and multi tenant buildings shall submit a
comprehensive sign plan for approval by the Planning Commission and City Council
a All wall signage shall use individual dimensional letters at least one half inch in depth
deep and logos Registered trademarks company symbols display messages less
than 6 inches tall pictorial presentations illustrations or decorations anything
other than wording and less than 20 percent of the total sign display area are
exempt from the individual dimension letter requirement
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b Wall signs shall be backlit if a wall sign is illuminated and be architecturally compatible
with the building and other signage if in a multi tenant building Company symbols
display messages pictorial presentations illustrations or decorations anything other
than vording
c Company logos shall not occupy more than 30 percent of the sign display area
2 All permanent monument or pylon signs shall be designed and constructed in a uniform
manner and to the extent possible as an integral part of the building s architecture
Multi tenant commercial and industrial buildings shall have uniform signage When
buildings or developments are presented for site plan review proposed signs for the
development shall be presented concurrently for staff review All planned centers and
multi tenant buildings shall submit a comprehensive sign plan for approval by the
Planning Commission and City Council
a All center development name or an individual tenant building signage on a
monument or pylon sign shall use individual dimension letters at least one half inch
deep
b Registered trademarks company symbols display messages less than 6 inches tall
pictorial presentations illustrations or decorations anything other than wording
and less than 20 percent of the total sign display area are exempt from the
individual dimension letter requirement
c In multi tenant buildings tenant panels may be used and shall be exempt from the
individual dimension letter requirement
d Company logos shall not occupy more than 30 percent of the sign display area and
are exempt from the individual dimension letter requirement
Issue Staffs intent is to allow for signage on buildings where individual entrances do not
front on a public street for single or multi tenant buildings see Figure 1
The current ordinance prohibits wall signs adjoining a residential district unless there is an
intervening public street Staff proposes that in circumstances where an intervening building
would serve as a screen for the signage to the residential properties wall signage would be
permitted This is true for all commercial and industrial zoning districts see figure 2
Figure 1 Figure 2
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Issue In calculating the total permitted square footage of a sign area the total sign area figure
becomes redundant or misleading Staff recommends deletion of the total permitted sign area
The percentage section allows the sign to be proportionate to the wall The one exception is the
size of signs on walls that exceed 4 500 square feet Staff is recommending the maximum size of
the sign not exceed 275 square feet
Proposed Change Amend Sections 20 1302 2 20 1303 3 and 20 1304 3 as shown below
Wall business signs
a One wall business sign shall be permitted on the street frontage for each business
occupant within a building In multi tooant buildings where individual entrances do not
front on a public street a wall sign may be permitted on the entrance facade consistent
with the approved comprehensive sign plan
b The sign may contain the name aftEllogo company symbols display messages
pictorial presentations illustrations or decorations of the business only and shall
have a sign display area that is in compliance with the district standards Wall business
signs shall not be mounted upon the wall of any building which faces any adjoining
residential district without an intervening building or pOOlie street The total of aU wall
mounted sign display areas for each business shall Hot exceed the square footage
established in the f llowing table
c The total of all wall mounted sign display areas for each business shall not exceed the
square footage established in the following table
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Maximum Percentage Wall Area in Square Feet Total Square Pottage
of Wall Area Of Signs
15 0 600 00
13 601 1 200 He
11 1 201 1 800 l 9
9 1 801 2 400 2 M
7 2 401 3 200
5 3 201 4 500
3 not to exceed 275 Square Feet 4 500
Community Signs
Issue The City desires to permit public entities the ability to provide public signs with motion
centers in order to promote community events and messages The current regulations restrict the
ability to provide signage that would accomplish this
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Minnetonka Total sign area 7 x 10 6 73 5 sq ft LED area 3 x 7 6 22 5 sq ft or 30 5
Chaska Total sign area 7 x 16 112 sq ft LED area 1 6 x 10 15 sq ft or 13
Purgatory Creek Total sign area 8 6 x 13 110 5 sq ft LED area 2 6 x 10 25 sq ft or
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The intent of the proposed sign ordinance amendment is to permit local governmental units the
ability to provide messages regarding public events notices or services Staff looked at the
various district regulations to verify that except for the size of the electronic message area the
sign would not be disproportionate to what is permitted for other property owners The use of
message centers is becoming more common as technology improves In order to encourage
communication between governmental agencies residents and businesses it benefits the City to
permit governmental units to install such signage Staff has visited existing public signage to
determine appropriate standards for such signage
Proposed Change Add Section 20 1302 4
Public Community Signs on property owned or leased by a governmental unit and
operated by a governmental unit
a One monument sign shall be permitted per site for each street frontage Such sign
shall not exceed 120 square feet in display area nor be greater than eight feet in height
b Electronic message center signs may be permitted as part of the sign display area Such
sign does not require a conditional use permit
c Electronic message center signs shall comply with the following standards
1 Electronic message center space used on a sign shall not exceed a total of 40 square
feet
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2 No electronic message center sign may be erected that by reason of position shape
movement or color interferes with the proper functioning of a traffic sign signal or
which otherwise constitutes a traffic hazard
3 Electronic message center displays shall not exceed 5 000 Nits between the hours of
civil sunrise and civil sunset and shall not exceed 500 Nits between the hours of civil
sunset and civil sunrise
4 Electronic message center signs shall not cause direct glare nor become a distraction
due to excessive brightness
5 The lamp wattage and luminance level in candles per square meter Nits shall be
provided at the time of permit application
6 There shall be no electronic message center signs within 50 feet of a street
intersection as measured from intersecting right of way lines or within 125 feet of
a residential district except where lighting for such sign is indirect or diffused and
in no way constitutes a traffic hazard
7 The message displayed on electronic message center signs shall be depicted in one
statement and not a continuing sentence or flow of information Flashing scrolling
special effects or animated scenes on electronic reader boards shall be prohibited A
change in the message shall not occur less than every four seconds
8 Electronic message center sign LED display use for signs within 500 feet of single
family residential homes shall be limited to the hours between 6 00 a m and 10 00
p m
RECOMMENDATION
Staff request that the City council review the proposed City Code amendments and provide
comments or direction
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
FROM Kate Aanenson AICP Community Development Director
DATE August 11 2008
SUBJ
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Resolution Ordering Abatement of Hazardous Building
6724 Lotus Trail
PROPOSED MOTION
The Chanhassen City Council adopts the attached resolution ordering abatement of
hazardous building located at 6724 Lotus Trail
Approval of this item requires a simple majority vote
BACKGROUND
The history of this site is outlined as follows
A fire occurred to the home on the subject site on February 23 2006 with
extensive damage to the second and third floors
The home was determined uninhabitable and considered dangerous and was
posted as such on February 27 2006
March 7 2006 A letter was sent to the property owner outlining the process
the owner needs to follow to demolish and reconstruct the house
June 5 2006 A letter was sent to the property owner to further clarify the
approval process for reconstruction of the home
June 6 2006 A building permit was issued for the subject property
June 8 2007 A letter was sent to the property owner seeking proof of progress
on work issued under the permit The City performed an inspection and it
appeared some progress had been made
April 22 2008 An inspection was performed as to the status on the
reconstruction and numerous deficiencies were noted
Due to the occupancy by the homeowner and others and the dangerous
condition of the building an administrative search warrant was obtained and
executed on May 21 2008 Numerous building plumbing electric and HV AC
code violations were noted as well as evidence of occupancy even though the
home was posted No Occupancy
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Todd Gerhardt
August 11 2008
Page 2
ANALYSIS
To date the home has been under construction for over two years Neighbors have complained
continuously during this time period regarding the lack of progress on the home the condition of
the exterior of the home and apparent occupancy by the owner and others
Over the last two years City inspectors have worked with the owner to try to gain compliance
with the codes The file on this site contains letters and inspection notes between the owner and
the City which are too numerous to attach to this staff report
After consulting with the City Attorney it was determined that due to the ongoing dangerous
condition of the home and the willingness of the owner to live there along with others in an
unsafe and dangerous environment the best course of action was to obtain an abatement order
If the City Council approves the abatement order the owner has 20 days to correct the building
code issues or remove all personal property from the premises until said corrections are made If
there is no corrective action in 20 days the City Attorney s office will present the matter to the
District Court to have the abatement order enforced
ATTACHMENT
1 Resolution Ordering Abatement of Hazardous Building
2 Order for Abatement of Hazardous Building
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTY MINNESOTA
RESOLUTION
Date Resolution No
Motion By Seconded By
RESOLUTION ORDERING ABATEMENT
OF HAZARDOUS BUILDING
WHEREAS the Building Inspector for the City of Chanhassen has attempted without
success to have the owner of certain property remedy the hazardous condition on property at 6724
Lotus Trail Chanhassen Minnesota and
WHEREAS the City Council has determined that the building on the property constitutes a
hazardous building within the meaning of Minn Stat S 463 15 subd 3
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of
Chanhassen Minnesota
1 Pursuant to Minn Stat S 463 16 et seq the City hereby adopts and approves the Order for
Abatement of Hazardous Building attached hereto as Exhibit A
2 The City of Chanhassen finds that the condition of the property located at 6724 Lotus Trail
Chanhassen Minnesota is a health and safety hazard and contains a hazardous building
within the meaning of Minn Stat S 463 15 subd 3
3 The City s legal counsel Campbell Knutson P A 317 Eagandale Office Center 1380
Corporate Center Curve Eagan Minnesota 55121 is directed to serve the Order for
Abatement of Hazardous Building and to proceed with enforcement in accordance with
Minn Stat S 463 15 et seq
ADOPTED this
Chanhassen Minnesota
day of 2008 by the City Council of the City of
Thomas A Furlong Mayor
ATTEST
Todd Gerhardt City Manager
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STATE OF MINNESOTA DISTRICT COURT
COUNTY OF CARVER FIRST JUDICIAL DISTRICT
CASE TYPE Other Ci viI
Court File No
In re the Matter of Hazardous Building
at 6724 Lotus Trail City of Chanhassen
County of Carver State of Minnesota
ORDER FOR ABATEMENT
OF HAZARDOUS BUILDING
TO LAWRENCE DEAN VEL TKAMP 6724 Lotus Trail Chanhassen MN 55317
PLEASE BE ADVISED that pursuant to order of the Chanhassen City Council
and by authority of Minn Stat 463 15 et seq you have twenty 20 days from the date
of service of this Order upon you to correct the hazardous building at 6724 Lotus Trail
City of Chanhassen County of Carver State of Minnesota and legally described as
follows
LOTS 1170 THRU 1178 ALSO INCL P O LOT 1179
LYING NL Y OF A LINE RUNNING FROM NW
Section 01 Township 116 Range 023 Plat 25160
CARVER BEACH
The subject property contains conditions which constitute health safety and fire
hazards to the residents of the City of Chanhassen
Attached as Exhibit A is an Inspector s Report dated May 27 2008 prepared by
lemtt Mohn Building Official for the City of Chanhassen detailing the basis for this
Order The City Council ordered the hazardous building on the property to be abated on
140027 1
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ORDER
The existing building is in a hazardous condition due to inadequate maintenance
dilapidation physical damage and disrepair The condition of the existing building must
be corrected so that it meets applicable building codes and City ordinances If the
condition of the building is not corrected it must be removed from the subject property
and all personal property junk and debris and fixtures must also be removed
Unless corrective action is taken within twenty 20 days the City will move the
District Court for summary enforcement of this Order pursuant to Minn Stat S 463 19
unless an answer is filed within twenty 20 days of service of this Order upon you Upon
enforcement of the Order by the City the cost of enforcement will be charged against the
property pursuant to Minn Stat S 463 21
2008
CAMPBELL KNUTSON
Professional Association Dated
By
Soren M Mattick 27785X
Chanhassen City Attorneys
317 Eagandale Office Center
1380 Corporate Center Curve
Eagan MN 55121
Telephone 651 452 5000
ACKNOWLEDGMENT
The City of Chanhassen by and through its undersigned attorney acknowledges
that costs disbursements and reasonable attorney and witness fees may be awarded to the
opposing party or parties pursuant to Minn Stat S 549 211
Dated 2008
Soren M Mattick 27785X
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May 27 2008
TO Samuel Edmunds
Campbell Knutson Professional Association
From Jerritt Mohn Building Official City of Chanhassen
Findings of administrative search warrant
On May 21 2008 at approximately 9 50 A M an administrative search warrant was executed at 6724 Lotus Trail
Chanhassen Minnesota The persons executing the warrant were Chanhassen Building Official Jerritt Mohn Chanhassen
Building Inspector Doug Hoese Chanhassen Plumbing HV AC Inspector Jeff Keogh accompanying the above persons
were Carver County Deputies Peter Anderly and James Gamlin
The property 6724 LotUs tra l is l1dergoing re construction due to severe fire damage the building permit to re
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construct was issued June 6 2006 The building has been posted as Do Not Occupy and the owner has been repeatedly
advised the building could not be occupied until re construction had been completed all systems electrical plumbing
HV AC granted final approval the building given fmal approval and a certificate of occupancy issued as required by
state building code and city ordinance
The purpose of the search was to determine possible violations of Chanhassen City Code and safety hazards
All members of the group found numerous indications the building is being used for habitation
Three apparent sleeping areas containing beds or sofa and bedding
Personal clothing found in closets on racks and strewn on the floors of sleeping areas
Food storage
Indications offood preparation dirty pots pans and utensils
Dirty dishes in kitchen sink and on counters
Laundry in clothes washing machine
Persorial electronics radios audio gear televisions computers set up and functioning in three areas of the
building With accompanying sofa chairs etc
A functioning hot tub
Deputies found one person sleeping in his underwear in a bed when the warrant was initially executed
It would appear there are three people occupying the building
The building has no approved electrical plumbing or heating system There were a multitude of electrical wires
protruding out of wall boxes and ceilings at least some were electrically connected as many of them were being used for
light electronics appliances etc In one instance there was bare electrical Wiring connected to a functioning light bulb
in the ceiling of a shower There were several incorrect plumbing waste and vent connections
As a building under construction there are numerous hazards not allowed in a habitable building improper
stairways guardrails incorrect damaged or non existant handrails incorrect non complying random openings no interior
o finish at ceilings walls and floors no functioning smoke or carbon monoxide detectors The exterior ofthe building is
incomplete i e not fully weather resistant the property is strewn With old used construction material random small
retaining walls fire pits platforms and other miscellaneous items of unknown use or function
This building does not meet the minimum habitation requirements does not have a certificate of occupancy and should
not be occupied due to the numerous health and safety issues found as well as being incomplete and not in compliance
wi Jh state and city building codes
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
ie
MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
Karen Engelhardt Office Manager FROM
DATE August 11 2008
SUBJ Approval of Resolution Appointing Election Judges for the
Primary General Election and Setting Rates of Pay
PROPOSED MOTION
The City Council approves the list of election judges for the
Primary and General Elections and sets their rates of pay as follows
Judges 8 per hour Assistant Head Judges 9 per hour Head
Judges 10 per hour and Joanne Meuwissen at 12 per hour
Approval of this item requires a simple majority vote of those City
Council members present
State law requires that the City Council adopt a resolution appointing judges for
the upcoming elections and establishing their rates of pay Attached please find
a list of people who have agreed to serve The list was compiled using names
submitted by the political parties those who have served in the past and those
who have expressed interest
The Council must also establish the rates of pay for the judges The rates
recommended below reflect a pay increase that was approved as a part of the
2008 budget This is the first time the city has increased salaries since 1996
Staff recommends that the following hourly rates be established Judges 8 per
hour Assistant Head Judges 9 per hour and Head Judges 10 per hour
Additionally Joanne Meuwissen is assisting me with some of the organizational
responsibilities for the election and it is recommended that her rate of pay be
12 hour
RECOMMENDA TION
Staff recommends that the City Council approve the list of election judges for
the Primary and General Elections as attached and set the rates of pay as noted
above
ATTACHMENTS
1 Resolution and Exhibit A
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES MINNESOTA
DATE August 11 2008 RESOLUTION NO 2008
MOTION BY SECONDED BY
A RESOLUTION APPROVING ELECTION JUDGES AND ESTABLISHING THE RATE
OF PAY FOR ELECTION JUDGES FOR THE PRIMARY ELECTION ON
SEPTEMBER 9 2008 THE GENERAL ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 4 2008
WHEREAS the City of Chanhassen is required by law to adopt a resolution appointing the
election judges for the Primary General Elections and establishing the rates of pay for such
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED by the City Council of the City of
Chanhassen that the election judges for said Elections are as established on the attached
Exhibit A with the rate of pay established at 10 00 per hour for the head judges 9 00 per hour
for assistant head judges and 8 00 per hour for the other judges
Passed and adopted by the Chanhassen City Council this 11 th day of August 2008
ATTEST
Todd Gerhardt City Manager Thomas A Furlong Mayor
YES NO ABSENT
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ELECTION JUDGES
PRIMARY ELECTION ON SEPTEMBER 9 2008
GENERAL ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 4 2008
Precinct 1 Main Fire Station
Elections Hours
Name Onlv Noted if Not Workin2 the Whole Day
Reuben Kelzenberg Head Judge Both
Orville Lantto Assistant Head Judge Both
Barbara Martini Both
Jill Ahrens Both
Andrew Aller Both
Ken Wend Both
Linda Ginsbach Both
Sue Kelly Both
Judy Newhouse Both
Bill Brechtel Both
Lois Anderson Both Yz day only
Fred Prinz Primary 1 2 day AM
General 1 2 day PM
Cathy Guthrie General Only
Precinct 2 City Hall Lower Level
Elections Hours
Name Onlv Noted if Not Working the Whole Day
Joanne Meuwissen Head Judge Both
Shirley pzvnski Asst Head Judge Both
Pat Donnay Both
Grace Tripp Both
Patricia Flakne Both
Dick Berg Both
Joyce Heuer Both
Greg Odash Both
Fred Berg Both
Betty Jorgenson Primary After 5 pm General all day
Marion Anderson Both 1 2 day only PM
Ann Fox Both 1 2 day only AM
Nancy Manarin General Only
Kathy Schroeder General Only
Precinct 3 St Hubert Church
Elections Hours
Name Only Noted if Not Workinl the Whole Day
Paula Rice Head Judge Both
Jean Steckling Asst Head Judge Both
Diane DePoe Both
Adell Glaser Both
Mary Jo Kamerud Both
Odie Winkel Both
Frederick Potthoff Sf Both
Mary Bracho Both
Marcia Eland Both
Alan Fox Both
Evelyn Kettler Both
Teresa Thomas Both
Earla Patterson Kraus Both
Jim Schindler Both
Steph Unze Both
Ellis Thomas Both 1 2 day only AM
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Precinct 4 Livin Christ Lutheran Church
ElectionslHours
Name Only Noted if Not Workin the Whole Day
Carol Hersman Head Judge Both
Jan Lundquist Asst Head Judge Both
Carlye Peterson Bristor Both
L ynell Ahlstrom Both
James Waletski Both
Darlene Kerber Both
Carol Berg Both
Sally Johnson Both
Kathleen Wendland Both
Ana Moritz Both
Linda Roehl Both
Nancy Benecke Both
Anne Crystal Both
J an Thomas Both 1 2 day only AM
Lloyd Anderson General Only
Michael Sluis General Only
Precinct 5 Familv of Christ Lutheran Church
ElectionslHours
Name Onlv Noted if Not Workinl the Whole Day
Richard Rice Head Judge Both
Sharon Koenen Asst Head Judge Both
Lola Kagol Both
John Price Both
Barbara Solum Both
Conrad Winkel Both
Anne Cecko Both
Jack Kreger Both
Gloria Cox Both
Catherine Lam Both
Cheryl Brandt Both
Vera Brady Both 1 2 day AM
Judy Prinz General Only
Precinct 6 Chanhassen Recreation Center
ElectionslHours
Name Only Noted if Not Workinl the Whole Day
Sheila McSherry Head Judge Both
Ann Kleve Assistant Head Judge Both
Julie Terpstra Both
Marcia Ortner Both
Ben Gowen Both
Kathleen Huntington Both
Dorothy Comer Both
Nancy Nelson Both
Bobbie Headla Both
Eileen Simonette Both
Randi Diedrich Both
Nann Opheim Both
Dorothy Downing Both
Margo Jesby General Only
Florence Raser General Onlv
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Precinct 7 Chanhassen Recreation Center
ElectionslHours
Name Onlv Noted if Not Working the Whole Day
Kim Meuwissen Head Judge Both
Debbie Michels General Only
Merlyn Kinkel Both
Mary Kraft Both
Linda Mady Both
Carol Dunsmore Both
Fran Scheffel Both
Paul Brady Both
Holly Rakocy Both
Val MacLeod Both
Carol Smith Both
Becky Rong Both
Audrey Kramer Both
Pat McGough Both 1 2 day AM
Carol Buesgens Both 1 2 day PM
Rick Engelhardt GeneralOnlv
Substitutes
J an Schindler
Pat Berg
Terre Kemble
Joanne Tyler
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
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MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
FROM Todd Hoffman Park Recreation Director 1
e M r DATE August 11 2008 r
SUBJECT Approve Contract for Arboretum Business Park ih Addition Trail
Construction 2nd Phase
PROPOSED MOTION
Staff recommends the City Council adopt the following motion
The City Council approves the trail construction contract with Steiner
Construction Services LLC in the amount of 181 046 51 subject to
adjustments for allowance items and unforeseen conditions
Approval of this item requires a simple majority vote
The City holds a development contract with Chaska Gateway Partners Limited
Partnership dated August 25 1997 Paragraph T of the Special Provisions portion
of the contract calls for the construction of the wetland trail to be completed in
two phases The first phase was completed in 2005 near the Holiday Inn Express
through an investment of 256 000 in park and trail dedication fees The second
phase of the trail will connect Century Boulevard to Trotters Ridge Plans and
specifications for the project have been reviewed and approved by staff Steiner
Construction Services has solicited competitive bids and is prepared to initiate
work upon approval of the City Council
The estimated project total for the base work is 181 046 51 Additional dollars
will be invested in retaining walls and safety railing fence as field located during
progression of the project Some additional rock and geofabric may also be
required based upon soil conditions Soil tests have been completed giving us
reasonable assurances that soil correction areas will be limited in scope Unit
prices for work items above the base work are included in the approved
alternates schedule This project is included in the 2008 Capital Improvements
Program
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 136
Todd Gerhardt
August 11 2008
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Staff is excited to bring this project before the Council for approval It was 1995 when the initial
section of this trail loop was constructed concurrent with the Trotters Ridge neighborhood For
18 years the community has waited patiently for development in this area to be complete
bringing with it the completion of the trail master plan
ATTACHMENTS
1 Site map
2 Plans Specifications
3 Exhibit A City costs per development contract
4 Exhibit B Bid specifications
5 Project Contract drafted by City Attorney
6 CIP Project Sheet
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Trailhead West Interpretive lode typ
Natural Sitting Area
Interpretive I Education Infonnation
Kiosk
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In Street Boulevard Areas
Proposed 8 Biruminous Trail
Alternate Trail Location
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Steiner
Construction Services LLC
EXHIBIT A
ASP 7th Addition
2 PHASE TRAIL CONSTRUCTION
Chanhassen MN
JULY 29 2008
Description Units I Unit Cost City Cost Description
1 000 GENERAL REQUIREMENTS
1 304 General Liability Insurance 175 2 887 505 23
1 310 Printinq Costs 1 125 00 125 00
1 311 Supervision 70 70 00 4 900 00 6wks x 2hrs day set up punch
1 331 Civil Enqineerinq 0 By Developer
1 336 Buildinq Permit 0 Not Included
1 451 Soil Testina Inspections 1 8 000 00 8 000 00 Allowance 22 site visits
1 521 First Aid I Safety 1 150 00 150 00 GT pluqqed
1 523 Portable Toilet 1 450 00 450 00 GT pluqqed
1 722 Stakina 1 4 500 00 4 500 00 Allowance
1 810 Common Labor 24 55 00 1 320 00 GT pluqqed
2 000 SITE WORK
2 201 Earthwork 0 Included in Asphalt Pavinq Includes 3 380LF of silt fence
2 270 Erosion Control Seedina I sa yd 0 3 200 sq yds of seed mulch included
I Seed Blanket 1 000 1 15 1 150 00 Allowance
2 830 Retainina Walls 0 700sf included in Asohalt Pavina specified keystone
2 701 Asphalt Pavinq 1 135 650 00 135 650 00
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5 520 I Handrails and Railinas llin ft I 01 I INot Included see AIt 1
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22 001 Continaency 5 0 7 837 51
22 010 Contractors Fee Cost Plus 10 16 458 77
ESTIMATED TOTALS 181 046 51
SCHEDULE
This scope of work shall begin on or about August 6 2008 and without weather delays will be substantially complete by August 29 2008
ALTERNATES
AIt 1 MN Dot Railing 8401
AIt 2 Per yard to remove unsuitable material
AIt 3 Per yard to replace with Cls 5
AIt 4 Per yard to replace with 2 clear rock
AIt 5 Per sq yd of geofabric installed
AIt 6 Per sq yd of seed blanket installed
AIt 7 Per sq ft of additional retaining wall
44 00 ILF
18 70 Icu yard
33 00 Icu yard
49 50 Icu yard
1 10 Isq yd
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Approved and Accepted by
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Steiner Development Inc
3610 County Road 101
Wayzata MN 55391
952 473 5650 Fax 952 473 7058
EXHIBIT B
Arboretum Business Park 7th Additition
2 Phases of City Trail I Bid Specifications
Chanhassen MN
July 29 2008
CONTRACT DOCUMENTS
Schoell Madson
West Trail
MFRA sheet C4 2
East Trail
Grading Erosion Control Plan sheet C 1 dated 10 8 07
Trail Grading Plan East sheet C4 2 dated 2 4 08
Braun Intertec Shallow Boring results recommendations dated 6 11 08
SECTION 1000 GENERAL REQUIREMENTS
All site general requirements needed to complete this scope of work are included
including but not limited to the following
Office Administration Project Management
Printing costs for construction site plans
Site Supervision
Soil and Materials Testing and Inspection Services Allowance of 8 000
Portable Toilet Facilities
Traffic control as needed
Storm Water Management
SECTION 2000 SITE CONSTRUCTION
2200 Earthwork
Silt Fence installation
Clear grub site Remove all brush and trees from the trail area approved for
removal by the City of Chanhassen including brush cuttings generated by the soil
boring operation
Strip and stockpile re use or export topsoil from the trail area
Sub cut the west trail 12 and the east trail 9 in preparation for placement of class 5
Any additional sub cut or import materials required shall be charged in a change
order with unit costs
All sub grade preparation shall be in accordance with the soils engineer of record
Finish grade both sides of the trail as needed
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2501 Site Utilities
Supply and install the storm water piping as specified in the contract documents
2701 Asphalt Paving
A six inch section of limestone class 5 is included for the east trail to accommodate
the 9 overall blacktop section specified in this scope of work
A nine inch section of limestone class 5 is included for the west trail to accommodate
the 12 overall blacktop section specified in this scope of work
Install a 3 bituminous section over the east and west trails per plans and
specifications
2830 Retaining Walls
An allowance of 700 sf of keystone retaining wall has been included in this scope of
work
2951 Site Restoration
Supply and install seed and mulch to all soils disturbed and exposed as a result of
this scope of work
Restore all areas damaged or altered as a result of permission access granted from
adjacent properties
SECTION 5000 METALS
5520 Handrails and Railings
Handrails not included in this scope of work See Alt 1
CLARIFICATIONS EXCLUSIONS
City permit or inspection fees of any sort are not included
Class 5 or bituminous beyond the sections specified in this scope of work
Additional Class 5 or any other materials required by or lost to weather conditions
unknown soil conditions or as a result of repeated construction traffic are not
included
Any work not specifically included in this specification is not included
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FORM OF AGREEMENT
BETWEEN CITY OF CHANHASSEN AND CONTRACTOR
FOR NON BID CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT
THIS AGREEMENT made this day of 2008 by and between
the CITY OF CHANHASSEN a Minnesota municipal corporation Owner and STEINER
CONST UCTION SERVICES LLC a Minnesota limited liability company Contractor
Owner and Contractor in consideration of the mutual covenants set forth herein agree as
follows
1 CONTRACT DOCUMENTS The following documents shall be referred to as
the Contract Documents all of which shall be taken together as a whole as the contract
between the parties as if they were set verbatim and in full herein
A This Agreement
B Standard General Conditions of the Construction Contract EJCDC C 700
2002 as amended by City of Chanhassen Supplementary Conditions to the
General Conditions
C Exhibit A Job Cost Estimate and Schedule of Unit Prices dated July
29 2008 including alternates 1 through 7 inclusive
D Specifications Exhibit B dated July 29 2008
E Drawings and reports
Schoell Madson West Trail Grading Erosion Control Plan Sheet Cl
dated 10 8 07
MFRA Sheet C4 2 East Trail Trail Grading Plan East Sheet C4 2 dated
2 4 08 and Revision A dated July 3 2008
Braun Intertec Shallow Boring Results Recommendations dated 6 11 08
In the event of a conflict among the provisions of the Contract Documents the order in which
they are listed above shall control in resolving any such conflicts with Contract Document A
having the first priority and Contract Document E having the last priority
2 OBLIGA TIONS OF THE CONTRACTOR The contractor shall provide the
goods services and perform the work in accordance with the Contract Documents
3 CONTRACT PRICE Owner shall pay Contractor for completion of the Work
in accordance with the Contract Documents an amount in current funds equal to the sum of the
amounts determined in accordance with Exhibit A
4 PAYMENT PROCEDURES
A Contractor shall submit Applications for Payment Applications for
Payment will be processed by Engineer as provided in the General
Conditions
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B Progress Payments Retainage Owner shall make 95 progress payments
on account of the Contract Price on the basis of Contractor s Applications
for Payment during performance of the Work
C Payments to Subcontractor
1 Prompt Payment to Subcontractors Pursuant to Minn Stat
471 25 Subd 4a the Contractor must pay any subcontractor
within ten 10 days of the Contractor s receipt of payment from
the City for undisputed services provided by the subcontractor
The Contractor must pay interest of 1 12 percent per month or any
part of a month to the Subcontractor on any undisputed amount not
paid on time to the subcontractor The minimum monthly interest
penalty payment for an unpaid balance of 100 00 or more is
10 00 For an unpaid balance of less than 100 00 the Contractor
shall pay the actual penalty due to the subcontractor
2 Form IC 134 attached required from general contractor Minn
Stat 290 92 requires that the City of Chanhassen obtain a
Withholding Affidavit for Contractors Form IC 134 before
making final payments to Contractors This form needs to be
submitted by the Contractor to the Minnesota Department of
Revenue for approval
The form is used to receive certification from the state that the
vendor has complied with the requirement to withhold and remit
state withholding taxes for employee salaries paid
D Final Payment Upon final completion of the Work Owner shall pay the
remainder of the Contract Price as recommended by Engineer
5 COMPLETION DATE The Work must be completed within sixty 60 days
after the date the Contract Times commence to run and completed and ready for
final payment in accordance with the General Conditions within sixty 60 days
after the date when the Contract Times commence to run
6 CONTRACTOR S REPRESENTATIONS
A Contractor has examined and carefully studied the Contract Documents
and other related data identified in the Contract Documents
B Contractor has visited the Site and become familiar with and is satisfied as
to the general local and Site conditions that may affect cost progress and
performance of the Work
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c Contractor is familiar with and is satisfied as to all federal state and local
Laws and Regulations that may affect cost progress and performance of
the Work
D Contractor has carefully studied all 1 reports of explorations and tests
of subsurface conditions at or contiguous to the Site and all drawings of
physical conditions in or relating to existing surface or subsurface
structures at or contiguous to the Site except Underground Facilities
which have been identified in the General Conditions and 2 reports and
drawings of a Hazardous Environmental Condition if any at the site
E Contractor has obtained and carefully studied or assumes responsibility
for doing so all additional or supplementary examinations investigations
explorations tests studies and data concerning conditions surface
subsurface and Underground Facilities at or contiguous to the Site which
may affect cost progress or performance of the Work or which relate to
any aspect of the means methods techniques sequences and procedures
of construction to be employed by Contractor including any specific
means methods techniques sequences and procedures of construction
expressly required by the Bidding Documents and safety precautions and
programs incident thereto
F Contractor does not consider that any further examinations investigations
explorations tests studies or data are necessary for the performance of
the Work at the Contract Price within the Contract Times and in
accordance with the other terms and conditions of the Contract
Documents
G Contractor is aware of the general nature of work to be performed by
Owner and others at the Site that relates to the Work as indicated in the
Contract Documents
H Contractor has correlated the information known to Contractor
information and observations obtained from visits to the Site reports and
drawings identified in the Contract Documents and all additional
examinations investigations explorations tests studies and data with the
Contract Documents
I The Contract Documents are generally sufficient to indicate and convey
understanding of all terms and conditions for performance and furnishing
of the Work
J Subcontracts
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1 Unless otherwise specified in the Contract Documents the
Contractor shall upon receipt of the executed Contract Documents
submit in writing to the Owner the names of the Subcontractors
proposed for the work Subcontractors may not be changed except
at the request or with the consent of the Owner
2 The Contractor is responsible to the Owner for the acts and
omissions of the Contractor s subcontractors and of their direct
and indirect employees to the same extent as the Contractor is
responsible for the acts and omissions of the Contractor s
employees
3 The Contract Documents shall not be construed as creating any
contractual relation between the Owner the Engineer and any
Subcontractor
4 The Contractor shall bind every Subcontractor by the terms of the
Contract Documents
7 WORKER S COMPENSATION The Contractor shall obtain and maintain for
the duration of this Contract statutory Worker s Compensation Insurance and Employer s
Liability Insurance as required under the laws of the State of Minnesota
8 COMPREHENSIVE GENERAL LIABILITY Contractor shall obtain the
following minimum insurance coverage and maintain it at all times throughout the life of the
Contract with the City included as an additional name insured The Contractor shall furnish the
City a certificate of insurance satisfactory to the City evidencing the required coverage
Bodily Injury 2 000 000 each occurrence
2 000 000 aggregate products and
completed operations
Property Damage 2 000 000 each occurrence
2 000 000 aggregate
Contractual Liability identifying the contract
Bodily Injury 2 000 000 each occurrence
Property Damage 2 000 000 each occurrence
2 000 000 aggregate
Comprehensive Automobile Liability owned non owned hired
Bodily Injury 2 000 000 each occurrence
2 000 000 each accident
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Property Damage 2 000 000 each occurrence
9 WARRANTY The Contractor guarantees that all new equipment warranties as
specified within the quote shall be in full force and transferred to the City upon payment by the
City The Contractor shall be held responsible for any and all defects in workmanship materials
and equipment which may develop in any part of the contracted service and upon proper
notification by the City shall immediately replace without cost to the City any such faulty part
or parts and damage done by reason of the same in accordance with the bid specifications
10 INDEMNITY The Contractor agrees to indemnify and hold the City harmless
from any claim made by third parties as a result of the services performed by it In addition the
Contractor shall reimburse the City for any cost of reasonable attorney s fees it may incur as a
result of any such claims
11 MISCELLANEOUS
A Terms used in this Agreement have the meanings stated in the General
Conditions
B Owner and Contractor each binds itself its partners successors assigns
and legal representatives to the other party hereto its partners successors
assigns and legal representatives in respect to all covenants agreements
and obligations contained in the Contract Documents
C Any provision or part of the Contract Documents held to be void or
unenforceable under any Law or Regulation shall be deemed stricken and
all remaining provisions shall continue to be valid and binding upon
Owner and Contractor who agree that the Contract Documents shall be
reformed to replace such stricken provision or part thereof with a valid and
enforceable provision that comes as close as possible to expressing the
intention of the stricken provisions
D Data PracticesIRecords
1 All data created collected received maintained or disseminated
for any purpose in the course of this Contract is governed by the
Minnesota Government Data Practices Act Minn Stat Ch 13 any
other applicable state statute or any state rules adopted to
implement the act as well as federal regulations on data privacy
2 All books records documents and accounting procedures and
practices to the Contractor and its subcontractors if any relative to
this Contract are subject to examination by the City
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E Software License If the equipment provided by the Contractor pursuant
to this Contract contains software including that which the manufacturer
may have embedded into the hardware as an integral part of the
equipment the Contractor shall pay all software licensing fees The
Contractor shall also pay for all software updating fees for a period of one
year following cutover The Contractor shall have no obligation to pay for
such fees thereafter Nothing in the software license or licensing
agreement shall obligate the City to pay any additional fees as a condition
for continuing to use the software
F Assignment Neither party may assign sublet or transfer any interest or
obligation in this Contract without the prior written consent of the other
party and then only upon such terms and conditions as both parties may
agree to and set forth in writing
G Waiver In the particular event that either party shall at any time or times
waive any breach of this Contract by the other such waiver shall not
constitute a waiver of any other or any succeeding breach of this Contract
by either party whether of the same or any other covenant condition or
obligation
H Governing Law Venue The laws of the State of Minnesota govern the
interpretation of this Contract In the event of litigation the exclusive
venue shall be in the District Court of the State of Minnesota for Hennepin
County
I Severability If any provision term or condition of this Contract is found
to be or become unenforceable or invalid it shall not effect the remaining
provisions terms and conditions of this Contract unless such invalid or
unenforceable provision term or condition renders this Contract
impossible to perform Such remaining terms and conditions of the
Contract shall continue in full force and effect and shall continue to
operate as the parties entire contract
J Entire Agreement This Contract represents the entire agreement of the
parties and is a final complete and all inclusive statement of the terms
thereof and supersedes and terminates any prior agreement s
understandings or written or verbal representations made between the
parties with respect thereto
K Permits and Licenses Rights of Way and Easements The Contractor
shall give all notices necessary and incidental to the construction and
completion of the Project The City will obtain all necessary rights of
way and easements The Contractor shall not be entitled to any additional
compensation for any construction delay resulting from the City s not
timely obtaining rights of way or easements
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L If the work is delayed or the sequencing of work is altered because of the
action or inaction of the Owner the Contractor shall be allowed a time
extension to complete the work but shall not be entitled to any other
compensation
OWNER
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CONTRACTOR
STEINER CONSTRUCTION
SERVICES LLC
BY BY
Todd Gerhardt City Manager Its
Address for giving notices
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard
P O Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Address for giving notices
License No
where applicable
Agent for service or process
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
SUPPLEMENTARY CONDITIONS TO THE GENERAL CONDITIONS
The following supplements shall modify change delete from and or add to the Standard
General Conditions of the Construction Contract No C 700 2002 Edition as prepared by the
Engineers Joint Contract Documents Committee
1 00 SECTION 2 7 Delete paragraph 2 01B and insert the following
Before any work at the site is started Contractor shall deliver to Owner certificates and
other evidence of insurance requested by Owner which Contractor is required to
purchase and maintain in accordance with paragraph 5 03B
2 00 SECTION 5 01B Delete
3 00 SECTION 5 04 Delete
6 00 SECTIONS 4 06G 5 05 5 07 11 01A5F 11 03D 12 03B 15 03 A3 15 03A4
Delete these eight 8 sections
7 00 SECTION 5 09
Delete Section 5 09 and insert the following
If Owner has any objection to the coverage afforded by or other provisions of the
insurance required to be purchased and maintained by Contractor on the basis of its not
complying with the Contract Documents Owner shall notify Contractor in writing
thereof within ten days of the date of delivery of such certificates to Owner in accordance
with paragraph 2 01 Contractor shall provide such additional information in respect of
insurance provided as may reasonably be requested
8 00 SECTION 13 07 One Year Correction Period
Change first sentence of Section 13 07 A to read as follows
If within one year after the date of final payment and acceptance by the City of
Chanhassen any work is found to be defective the Contractor should promptly without
cost to the Owner and in accordance with the City Engineer s written instructions either
correct such defective work or if it has been rejected by the Engineer remove it from the
site and replace it with non defective work
9 00 PROMPT PAYMENT TO SUBCONTRACTORS Pursuant to Minnesota Statute
471 25 Subdivision 4a the Contractor must pay any subcontractor within ten 10 days
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of the Contractor s receipt of payment from the City for undisputed services provided by
the subcontractor The Contractor must pay interest of one and one half percent 1 Yz
per month or any part of a month to the subcontractor on any undisputed amount not paid
on time to the subcontractor The minimum monthly interest penalty payment for an
unpaid balance of 100 00 or more is 10 00 For an unpaid balance of less than
100 00 the Contractor shall pay the actual penalty due to the subcontractor A
subcontractor who prevails in a civil action to collect interest penalties from the
Contractor shall be awarded its costs and disbursements including attorney s fees
incurred in bringing the action
10 00 REQUIREMENTS FOR FINAL PAYMENT Final payment will not be made until the
Contractor and all subcontractors furnish a certificate showing that they have complied
with the provisions of M S A 290 92 and 290 97 concerning the withholding of
Minnesota income tax on wages at the source Said certificates shall be obtained by the
Commissioner of Taxation IC 134 forms for certifications may be obtained from the
Department of Revenue Centennial Building 658 Cedar Street St Paul MN 55155
11 00 DATA PRACTICES ACT The Contractor must comply with the Minnesota
Government Data Practices Act Minnesota Statutes Chapter 13 as it applies to 1 all
data provided by the Owner pursuant to this Agreement and 2 all data created
collected received stored used maintained or disseminated by the Contractor pursuant
to this Agreement The Contractor is subject to all the provisions of the Minnesota
Government Data Practices Act including but not limited to the civil remedies of
Minnesota Statutes Section 13 08 as if it were a government entity In the event the
Contractor receives a request to release data the Contractor must immediately notify the
Owner The Owner will give the Contractor instructions concerning the release of the
data to the requesting party before the data is released Contractor agrees to defend
indemnify and hold the Owner its officials officers agents employees and volunteers
harmless from any claims resulting from Contractor s officers agents owners
partners employees volunteers assignees or subcontractors unlawful disclosure
and or use of protected data The terms of this paragraph shall survive the cancellation or
termination of this Agreement
12 00 SECTION 14 02A3 Delete Section 14 02A3 and insert the following
The amount of retainage with respect to all progress payments will be as follows
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Minnesota Contractor s
Exempt Non Minnesota Contractors
Non Except Non Minnesota Contractors
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State Surety Deposit
Non Minnesota Contractors are advised to file Form SD 3 with the Minnesota
Department of Revenue to determine their exemption status
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Capital Improvement Program
City of Chanhassen MN
2008 thru 2012
Contact Unassigned
Department Park Trail Improvements
Account 1 410 0000 4710 Account 3
Type Improvement
Useful Life 30 Years
Category Park
Priority n a
Project PK T 047
Project Name Arboretum Business Park Lot 12 Trail
Account 2
Total Project Cost 317 000
Description I
Construction of an 8 foot wide asphalt trail in the Chanhassen nature preserve
Justification I
Represents the final phase in a four part trail construction initiative
Expenditures
Land Improvement
2008
317 000
317 000
2009 2010 2011 2012 Total
317 000
317 000 Total
Funding Sources
Park Dedication Fund
2008
317 000
317 000
2009 2010 2011 2012 Total
317 000
317 000 Total
Operational Impact Other I
Maintenance and operations costs
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Correspondence Packet
Letter of thanks from Scott Neal City Manager of the City of Eden Prairie dated July 31 2008
Letter from Dan Weber dated June 28 2008
Letter from Mediacom dated August 4 2008
Letter from Mediacom dated July 23 2008
Letter from Mark Ruff Ehlers Associates dated July 22 2008
Memo from Greg Sticha re Review of Claims Paid dated August 1 2008
Memo from Paul Oehme re Request for Proposals for Architectural and Engineering Services
for a Public Works Building dated August 11 2008
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OFFICE OF THE CITY MANAGER I July 31 2098
I
Todd Gerhardt City Manager
City of Chanhassen
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Dear Todd
Ale 5 1t PJ O
On July 17 a construction worker became trapped ip a utility trench cave in at home
construction site here in Eden Prairie Public safetY personnel from your city reported to
the scene as part of a mutual aid rescue response I lam pleased to tell you that the rescue
operation was a success The worker is expected to make a full recovery
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You should know that a man s life w as saved becau e the public safety personnel from our
respective cities have developed enduring positive I orking relationships that are so vitally
important when executing a successful multi agenl rescue operation On behalf of the
City of Eden Prairie I want you to know that I am jery appreciative of the not only the
help that we received from your staff on July 17 bu also for the good will and
professional support that make successful outcome like this one possible
Thank you
Sincerely
Scott H Neal
City Manager
OFC 952 949 8300
FAX 9529498390
TOO 9529498399
8080 Mitchell Rd
Eden Prairie MN
55344 4485
edenprairie org
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June 28 2008
Mr Todd Gerhardt
Chanhassen City Manager
P O Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Dear Mr Gerhardt
I would like to thank the traffic department for changing the left turn stoplight on Power s
Boulevard at the ramp to 312 West When 312 was opened the left turn arrow onto the westwa rd
ramp was on a sensor and was very timely in letting pe ople onto 312 West Then around two months
ago the traffic light was changed so that the left turn onto 312 could not be tripped without the light
going through the whole sequence This was a real letdown as it added 2 3 minutes onto a trip to
Chaska What had originally taken 7 minutes on 312 now took 9 10 minutes and was no quicker than
taking Audubon to Engler It was especially disappointing because the two minutes were often spent
sitting at the light with absolutely no traffic passing by This was the case for many of my neighbors as
well and I was in the process of writing to complain when the problem was apparently solved Now the
light trips very quickly and the trip time has really been cut down
I m sure you get many complaint letters about little things around Chanhassen but you and
your staff do a very good job of keeping everything running smoothly This is the first time since I have
lived here that I have had an issue with the lights and it was resolved quickly I would like to commend
whoever made the decision to change the light back It is much more convenient and although it is just
a small change it really makes the commute a lot smodther
Sincerely yours
Dan Weber
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Mediacom1 RECEIVED
AUG 0 6 2008
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Theresa Sunde
Community Relations Coordinator
PLEASE POST OR DISTRIBUTE
August 4 2008
Dear Community Officials
Mediacom Communications is continuing to improve our programming choices
for our digital customers
Effective the week of August 4th Mediacom will be expanding the service in
your community by providing additional programming on our High Definition
Tier USA HD will be available to our high definition customers free of charge
on channel 838
Mediacom is notifying our customers of the new channel lineup by both bill and
digital message
Mediacom is pleased to be your cable television provider If you have any
questions please feel free to contact me at 507 835 2356 ext 260 or email at
tsunde@mediacomcc com
Sincerely
Theresa Sunde
Mediacom Communications Corporation
1504 2nd Street SE Waseca MN 56093 507 835 2356 Fax 507 835 4567
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JUL 23 2008 WED 11 20 AM MEDIACOM WASECA FAX No 507 835 4567
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Mediaconv
Theresa SW1de
Community Relations Coordinator
Via Mail USPS
F acsimile
July 23 2008
City of Chanhassen
Todd Gerhardt City Manager
7700 Market Blvd
Chanhassen MN 55317 0147
Dear Mr ierhardt
I m writing to inform you effective Monday August 4th Mediacom s office will have been
relocated from it s CWTent location at 1450 Park Court Suite 4 to a new office located at 1670
Lake Drive West in Chanhassen
The current office will be closed on Wednesday July 30th through Friday August 1 st to
acconunodate the move
Our customers will still have the convenience of calling our Customer Service Department at
1 800 332 0245 24 hours a day 7 days a week
Questions re arding this letter can be directed to my email at tsunde@mediacomcc com or by
calling 507 835 2356 ext 260
Cordially
Medbco m Communications Corporation
1504 2nd Street SE Waseca MN 56093 507 835 1 356 Fax 507 835 4567
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EHLERS
LEADERS IN PUBLIC FINANCE
July 22 2008
Todd Gerhardt City Manager
City of Chanhassen Chanhassen EDA
7700 Market Blvd PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317 0147
RE Potential Refunding of Existing Bonds
One of our services as your financial advisor is to monitor your existing bond issues and alert
you if we believe it may be beneficial to refund any of those issues An updated status report for
your community is attached It includes general information about your existing issues and a
brief comment regarding the potential for refunding each of them based on current market
conditions Please verify all outstanding debt listed If there are any discrepancies from your
records please call at your earliest convenience
You will receive periodic updates during the year In the meantime we will continue to monitor
your issues and alert you to any potential refundings
In the past we have included a two page document titled Refundings Questions of Dollars and
Cents If you would like additional copies of the document or if you have any questions about
this information please contact us at any time
Sincerely
E SSOCIATES INC
Mark Ruff
Senior Financial Advisor
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LEADERS iN PUBLiC fiNANCE
C3 arh r Member d the NaUcnGll AssOC atlGii
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
MEMORANDUM
TO Mayor
City Council
FROM Greg Sticha Finance Director
DATE August 1 2008 o
SUBJECT Review of Claims Paid
v4
The following claims are submitted for review on August 11 2008
Check Numbers Amounts
137292 137430 774 520 31
July Visa charges 15 542 50
Total All Claims 790 062 81
Attachments Check Summary
Check Detail Report
Visa Listing
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 163
CITY OF CHANHASSEN Accounts Payable Printed 08 01 2008 09 29
User danielle Checks by Date Summary by Check Number Summary
Check Number Vendor No Vendor Name Check Date Void Amount Check Amount
137292 GFOA GFOA 07 22 2008 0 00 616 50
137293 ACSFir ACS Government Solutions 07 24 2008 0 00 1 018 07
137294 AMESOL AMERICAN SOLUTIONS 07 24 2008 0 00 2 135 40
137295 ANDEDAIS DAISY ANDERSON 07 24 2008 0 00 54 50
137296 ATTAZ AT T CONSUMER LEASE SERVICES 07 24 2008 0 00 14 62
137297 barbbrow Barbara Brown 07 24 2008 0 00 125 00
137298 biolaw bioLawn 07 24 2008 0 00 101 16
137299 boydlee Boyd F Lee 07 24 2008 0 00 650 00
137300 BOYTRU Boyer Truck Parts 07 24 2008 0 00 19 82
137301 brapum BRAUN PUMP CONTROLS 07 24 2008 0 00 213 00
137302 BRAUER BRAUER ASSOCIATES LID 07 24 2008 0 00 1 980 37
137303 carcou Carver County 07 24 2008 0 00 948 00
137304 car lcorr CORRINE CARLSON 07 24 2008 0 00 5 00
137305 carmjim Jim Carmichiel 07 24 2008 0 00 12 00
137306 CARSWC CARVER SWCD 07 24 2008 0 00 935 00
137307 cerpow CERTIFIED POWER INC 07 24 2008 0 00 110 15
137308 CHAPR CHASKA PARK RECREATION 07 24 2008 0 00 2 168 98
137309 corexp CORPORATE EXPRESS 07 24 2008 0 00 88 95
137310 dissal DISPLAY SALES COMPANY 07 24 2008 0 00 794 50
137311 DYNAME DYNAMEX DELIVERS NOW 07 24 2008 0 00 38 93
137312 eleins ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC 07 24 2008 0 00 2 060 00
137313 emeapp EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC 07 24 2008 0 00 494 84
137314 giffjudi Judith Gifford 07 24 2008 0 00 5 00
137315 hach Hach Company 07 24 2008 0 00 139 88
137316 HamiMich MICHAEL HAMILTON 07 24 2008 0 00 270 00
137317 hantho HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON 07 24 2008 0 00 6 061 50
137318 hegmkath Kathryn Hegman VOID 07 24 2008 5 00 0 00
137319 HITECH HIGHWAY TECHNOLOGIES 07 24 2008 0 00 638 67
137320 jonrohs Jon Rohs Homes Inc 07 24 2008 0 00 1 250 00
137321 kapapat Pat Kapaun VOID 07 24 2008 5 00 0 00
137322 KEOGJEFF JEFF KEOGH 07 24 2008 0 00 82 60
137323 LUNBRO LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION 07 24 2008 0 00 1 750 00
137324 MatCon Mattson Contracting 07 24 2008 0 00 500 00
137325 MATRUA MARK J TRAUT WELLS INC 07 24 2008 0 00 208 872 70
137326 mattjim Jim Mattson 07 24 2008 0 00 100 00
13 7327 mauent MAUND ENTERTAINMENT INC 07 24 2008 0 00 300 00
137328 mcmamary Maryann McMahon 07 24 2008 0 00 125 00
137329 MNLlFE MINNESOTA LIFE 07 24 2008 0 00 1 576 03
137330 MNV AL MN V ALLEY COMMUNITY BAND 07 24 2008 0 00 350 00
137331 moomed MOORE MEDICAL 07 24 2008 0 00 110 95
137332 MRPA MN RECREATION PARK ASSOC 07 24 2008 0 00 1 200 00
137333 MXLog MX Logic 07 24 2008 0 00 97 00
137334 NYSPUB NYSTROM PUBLISHING COMPANY INC 07 24 2008 0 00 775 43
137335 parkrnarc Dr Marcie Parker 07 24 2008 0 00 5 00
137336 parplu Parts Plus 07 24 2008 0 00 97 36
137337 pierrond Ronda Pierre 07 24 2008 0 00 75 00
137338 qualcon Quality Control Integration 07 24 2008 0 00 13 700 00
137339 SASCON SASSCONSTRUCTIONINC 07 24 2008 0 00 961 25
137340 schaviol Viola Scharrer 07 24 2008 0 00 6 00
137341 SeaDiv Seaya Diving Inc 07 24 2008 0 00 46 63
137342 sensys SENTRY SYSTEMS INC 07 24 2008 0 00 273 03
137343 SKYSPR SKYHAWKS SPORTS ACADEMY 07 24 2008 0 00 6 837 00
137344 SLSER SL SERCO 07 24 2008 0 00 1 000 00
137345 SMHEN SM HENTGES SONS 07 24 2008 0 00 155 097 92
137346 souloc SOUTHWEST LOCK KEY 07 24 2008 0 00 311 39
137347 Spensfra Francie Spenser 07 24 2008 0 00 5 00
137348 SPRPCS SPRINT PCS 07 24 2008 0 00 217 51
137349 SPRPCS SPRINT PCS 07 24 2008 0 00 88 60
137350 STHUB ST HUBERT S 07 24 2008 0 00 20 00
137351 stowvirg Virginia Stowe 07 24 2008 0 00 6 00
137352 TOLGAS TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY 07 24 2008 0 00 27 63
137353 UL TMAR ULTIMATE MARTIAL ARTS INC 07 24 2008 0 00 73 60
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164
CITY OF CHANHASSEN Accounts Payable Printed 08 01 2008 09 29
User danielle Checks by Date Summary by Check Number Summary
Check Number Vendor No Vendor Name Check Date Void Amount Check Amount
137354 W ACDOD W ACONIA DODGE 07 24 2008 0 00 733 79
137355 WACFAR W ACONIA FARM SUPPLY 07 24 2008 0 00 157 83
137356 WATSON WATSON COMPANY 07 24 2008 0 00 247 25
137357 weirdan Daniel Weir 07 24 2008 0 00 84 75
137358 woodonna Donna Jean Woods 07 24 2008 0 00 5 00
137359 wsb WSB ASSOCIATES INC 07 24 2008 0 00 1 057 50
137360 WSDAR WS DARLEY CO 07 24 2008 0 00 231 86
137361 XCEL XCEL ENERGY INC 07 24 2008 0 00 38 382 99
137362 bcatra BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT 07 29 2008 0 00 15 00
137363 AFLAC American Family Life Assurance 07 31 2008 0 00 187 90
137364 AIRMAS AIR MASTERS INC 07 31 2008 0 00 7 50
137365 ALLBLA ALLIED BLACKTOP 07 31 2008 0 00 197 322 05
137366 apmp Assoc of Public Manager Prof 07 31 2008 0 00 15 00
137367 ASBENE ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS 07 31 2008 0 00 1 402 73
137368 AZREN A TO Z RENTAL CENTER 07 31 2008 0 00 675 41
137369 BRAINT BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION 07 31 2008 0 00 5 300 00
137370 BriWhi Bright White Paper Co 07 31 2008 0 00 230 07
137371 CARSWC CARVER SWCD 07 31 2008 0 00 880 00
137372 CENTEL CENTURY TEL 07 31 2008 0 00 793 67
137373 chaboliv Olivier Chabin 07 31 2008 0 00 102 00
137374 ChaCud Charles Cudd Company 07 31 2008 0 00 1 500 00
137375 CHAPET CITY OF CHANHASSEN PETTY CASH 07 31 2008 0 00 256 99
137376 diedjose Joseph Gail Diedrick 07 31 2008 0 00 5 00
137377 DISSAL DISPLAY SALES COMPANY 07 31 2008 0 00 40 47
137378 DONSAL DONALD SALVERDA ASSOCIATES 07 31 2008 0 00 200 00
137379 DYNAME DYNAMEX DELIVERS NOW 07 31 2008 0 00 38 93
137380 ECOLAB ECOLAB 07 31 2008 0 00 75 83
137381 Ernst Ernst Associates 07 31 2008 0 00 3 031 43
137382 geskgreg GREGG GESKE 07 31 2008 0 00 88 52
137383 GloHea Glowing Hearth Home 07 31 2008 0 00 42 00
137384 GOOTEC GOODPOINTE TECHNOLOGY INC 07 31 2008 0 00 1 260 00
137385 HA WCHE HAWKINS CHEMICAL 07 31 2008 0 00 1 704 59
137386 HDsup HD Supply Waterworks L TD 07 31 2008 0 00 4 515 55
137387 HegrnKath Kathryn Hegman 07 31 2008 0 00 36 00
137388 hoesdoug DOUG HOESE 07 31 2008 0 00 273 75
137389 hokklaur Laurie A Hokkanen 07 31 2008 0 00 321 68
137390 ICMART ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457 07 31 2008 0 00 845 00
137391 JohApp John s Appliance Service 07 31 2008 0 00 275 71
137392 JOHSUP JOHNSTONE SUPPLY 07 31 2008 0 00 308 01
137393 KapaPat Pat Kapaun 07 31 2008 0 00 5 00
137394 kiddstev Steve Summer Kidder 07 31 2008 0 00 500 00
137395 KIMHOR KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES INC 07 31 2008 0 00 35 972 24
137396 laksus Lake Susan Apartments 07 31 2008 0 00 3 433 80
137397 lanzbob BOB LANZI 07 31 2008 0 00 382 50
137398 LEERUB LEE S RUBBER STAMPS 07 31 2008 0 00 35 20
137399 Iynnlisa Lisa Lynn Consulting Inc 07 31 2008 0 00 1 000 00
137400 MNCHIL MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR 07 31 2008 0 00 392 70
137401 MSRS MSRS 07 3112008 0 00 2 731 26
137402 MVEC MN V ALLEY ELECTRIC COOP 07 31 2008 0 00 646 19
137403 NATRET NATIONWIDE RETIREMENT SOLUTION 07 31 2008 0 00 5 286 26
137404 NCPERS MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE 07 31 2008 0 00 16 00
137405 nesbpaul PAUL NESBURG 07 31 2008 0 00 100 00
137406 NEXTEL NEXTEL 07 31 2008 0 00 2 359 34
137407 NFSA NATIONAL FIRE SPRINKLER ASSN 07 31 2008 0 00 85 00
137408 parplu Parts Plus 07 31 2008 0 00 263 78
137409 PieBui Pietsch Builders Inc 07 31 2008 0 00 1 500 00
137410 POST POSTMASTER 07 31 2008 0 00 717 08
137411 PROSTA PRO STAFF 07 31 2008 0 00 119 94
137412 QUILL QUILL CORPORATION 07 31 2008 0 00 237 38
137413 SIGNSO SIGNSOURCE 07 31 2008 0 00 1 965 46
137414 SIMOLEON LEONE SIMONDS 07 31 2008 0 00 36 00
137415 smitjoy Joy Smith 07 31 2008 0 00 100 00
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
User danielle
Accounts Payable
Checks by Date Summary by Check Number
Check Number
137416
137417
137418
137419
137420
137421
137422
137423
137424
137425
137426
137427
137428
137429
137430
Vendor No Vendor Name
SOULOC SOUTHWEST LOCK KEY
Spoun1 Sports Unlimited
STEDEV STEINER DEVELOPMENT
sullmack Mackenzie Sullivan
SwenKris Kris Swensson
TARGET TARGET
TOPNOT TOP NOTCH TREECARE
UNIW A Y UNITED WAY
usainf USA Inflatable
W A TCOM W A TEROUS COMPANY
WILNUR WILSON S NURSERY INC
WSDAR WS DARLEY CO
WWGRA WW GRAINGER INC
XCEL XCEL ENERGY INC
ZOERPEGG PEGGIE ZOERHOF
Check Date
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
07 31 2008
Report Total
Printed 08 01 2008 09 29
Summary
Void Amount
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
0 00
10 00
Check Amount
311 80
980 00
5 965 00
92 00
88 96
4 78
990 45
33 40
179 34
169 50
308 32
111 47
57 11
26 709 82
343 00
774 520 31
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CITY OF CHANHAS
User danieIle
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
A TO Z RENTAL CENTER
AZREN A TO Z RENTAL CENTER
Ck 137368 07 31 08
InY 3516
Line Item Date Line Item Description
OS 27 08 Chair table rental
Iny 3516 Total
Line Item Account
410 0000 4300 489 26
489 26
Iny 5068
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 25 08 Chairs for Summer Concert
Iny 5068 Total
Line Item Account
101 1620 4300 186 15
186 15
Ck 137368 Total 675 41
AZREN A TO Z RENTAL CENTER 675 41
A TO Z RENTAL CENTER 675 41
ACS Goyernment Solutions
ACSFir ACS Government Solutions
Ck 137293 07 24 08
Iny 72956
Line Item Date
07 10 08
Iny 72956 Total
Line Item Description
Annual software support
Line Item Account
101 1160 4300 1 018 07
1 018 07
Ck 137293 Total 1 018 07
ACSFir ACS Government Solutions 1 018 07
ACS Government Solutions 1 018 07
AIR MASTERS INC
AIRMAS AIR MASTERS INC
Ck 137364 07 31 08
Inv 072408
Line Item Date
07 24 08
Iny 072408 Total
Line Item Description
Overpaid on permit 2008 01630
Line Item Account
101 1250 4901 7 50
7 50
Ck 137364 Total 7 50
AIRMAS AIR MASTERS INC 7 50
AIR MASTERS INC 7 50
ALLIED BLACKTOP
ALLBLA ALLIED BLACKTOP
Ck 137365 07 31 08
InY 041608
Line Item Date
04 16 08
Iny 041608 Total
Line Item Description
2008 Sealcoat Project
Line Item Account
420 4204 4751 197 322 05
197 322 05
Ck 137365 Total 197 322 05
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CITY OF CHANHAS
User danielIe
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
ALLBLA ALLIED BLACKTOP
Amount
197 322 05
ALLIED BLACKTOP 197 322 05
American Family Life Assurance
AFLAC American Family Life Assurance
Ck 137363 07 31 08
Inv 168662
Line Item Date
07 26 08
07 26 08
07 26 08
07 26 08
Inv 168662 Total
Line Item Description
July 2008 AFLAC
July 2008 AFLAC
July 2008 AFLAC
July 2008 AFLAC
Line Item Account
700 0000 2008
701 0000 2008
210 0000 2008
101 0000 2008
6 71
6 71
15 75
158 73
187 90
Ck 137363 Total 187 90
AFLAC American Family Life Assurance 187 90
American Family Life Assurance 187 90
AMERICAN SOLUTIONS
AMESOL AMERICAN SOLUTIONS
Ck 137294 07 24 08
Inv 071508
Line Item Date
07 15 08
07 15 08
07 15 08
Inv 071508 Total
Line Item Description
Window envelopes AP checks
Window envelopes AP checks
Window envelopes AP checks
Line Item Account
700 0000 4340
701 0000 4340
101 1130 4340
571 67
571 67
992 06
2 135 40
Ck 137294 Total 2 135 40
AMESOL AMERICAN SOLUTIONS 2 135 40
AMERICAN SOLUTIONS 2 135 40
ANDERSON DAISY
ANDEDAIS ANDERSON DAISY
Ck 137295 07 24 08
Inv 072208
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 22 08 Books for HTC class
Inv 072208 Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4370 54 50
54 50
Ck 137295 Total 54 50
ANDEDAIS ANDERSON DAISY 54 50
ANDERSON DAISY 54 50
Assoc of Public Manager Prof
apmp Assoc of Public Manager Prof
Ck 137366 07 31 08
Inv 072408
Line Item Date
07 24 08
Inv 072408 Total
Line Item Description
APMP Annual Mtg 08 14 08
Line Item Account
101 1120 4370 15 00
15 00
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apmp
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
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Amount
15 00
Assoc of Public Manager Prof 15 00
Assoc of Public Manager Prof 15 00
ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
ASBENE ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS
Ck 137367 07 31 08
Iny 072408
Line Item Date
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
07 24 08
Iny 072408 Total
Ck 137367 Total
ASBENE
Line Item Description
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Strnnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Group Insurance Premium Stmnt Aug
Line Item Account
101 1430 4040
720 7201 4040
720 7202 4040
101 1700 4040
101 1170 4040
101 1530 4040
101 1210 4040
210 0000 4040
101 1600 4040
101 1520 4040
720 0000 4040
10 1 13 70 4040
101 1160 4040
101 1220 4040
101 1130 4040
701 0000 4040
101 1120 4040
101 1420 4040
101 1310 4040
700 0000 4040
101 1550 4040
101 1250 4040
10 1 1320 4040
5 50
7 18
7 18
7 23
16 99
17 77
20 59
22 45
28 92
30 75
39 61
44 31
44 38
46 95
64 41
82 77
90 90
96 45
120 39
127 16
148 04
164 58
168 22
1 402 73
1 402 73
ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS 1 402 73
ASSURANT EMPLOYEE BENEFITS 1 402 73
AT T CONSUMER LEASE SERVICES
A TT AZ AT T CONSUMER LEASE SERVICES
Ck 137296 07 24 08
InY 071408
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 14 08 July bill
07 14 08 July bill
Iny 071408 Total
Ck 137296 Total
ATTAZ
Line Item Account
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
7 31
7 31
14 62
14 62
AT T CONSUMER LEASE SERVICES 14 62
AT T CONSUMER LEASE SERVICES 14 62
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BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT
bcatra BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT
Ck 137362 07 29 08
Inv 072808
Line Item Date
07 28 08
Inv 072808 Total
Ck 137362 Total
bcatra
Line Item Description
Background Checks
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
Line Item Account
101 1120 4300 15 00
15 00
15 00
BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT
BCA TRAINING DEVELOPMENT
15 00
bioLawn
biolaw bioLawn
Ck 137298 07 24 08
Inv 3619
Line Item Date
06 30 08
Inv 3619 Total
Ck 137298 Total
biolaw
bioLawn
Line Item Description
early summer fertilizer application
bioLawn
Boyer Truck Parts
BOYTRU Boyer Truck Parts
Ck 137300 07 24 08
Inv 180966
Line Item Date
OS 29 08
Inv 180966 Total
Inv 183359
Line Item Date
04 21 08
Inv 183359 Total
Inv 186074
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Inv 186074 Total
Inv 186770Xl
Line Item Date
04 16 08
Inv 186770XI
Inv 198163Xl
Line Item Date
OS 22 08
Inv 198163XI
Inv 198563
Line Item Date
OS 28 08
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Total
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Total
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
15 00
Line Item Account
101 1550 4300 101 16
101 16
101 16
101 16
101 16
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 36 61
36 61
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 354 28
354 28
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 81 42
81 42
Line Item Account
101 1550 4140 15 39
15 39
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 224 48
224 48
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 47 64
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Iny 198563 Total
Amount
47 64
InY 204790Xl
Line Item Date
06 16 08
Iny 204790Xl
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4120 48 78
48 78
InY 212888
Line Item Date
07 14 08
InY 212888 Total
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 71 54
71 54
InY 40219SAV
Line Item Date Line Item Description
03 06 08 Misc parts supplies
InY 40219SAV Total
Line Item Account
101 1320 4140 78 54
78 54
Ck 137300 Total 19 82
BOYTRU Boyer Truck Parts 19 82
Boyer Truck Parts 19 82
BRAUER ASSOCIATES LTD
BRAUER BRAUER ASSOCIATES LTD
Ck 137302 07 24 08
InY 1202531
Line Item Date Line Item Description
06 30 08 Preliminary planning for Bandimere Park
Iny 1202531 Total
Line Item Account
410 0000 4300 1 980 37
1 980 37
Ck 137302 Total 1 980 37
BRAUER BRAUER ASSOCIATES LTD 1 980 37
BRAUER ASSOCIATES LTD 1 980 37
BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION
BRAINT BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION
Ck 137369 07 31 08
Iny 296430
Line Item Date
07 22 08
Iny 296430 Total
Line Item Description
Public Works Bldg Geotechnical Eyal
Line Item Account
700 7020 4300 5 300 00
5 300 00
Ck 137369 Total 5 300 00
BRAINT BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION 5 300 00
BRAUN INTERTEC CORPORATION 5 300 00
BRAUN PUMP CONTROLS
brapum BRAUN PUMP CONTROLS
Ck 137301 07 24 08
Iny 11456
Line Item Date
07 08 08
Line Item Description
Vent tube 4
Line Item Account
701 0000 4551 213 00
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Iny 11456 Total
Ck 137301 Total
brapum
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
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Amount
213 00
213 00
BRAUN PUMP CONTROLS 213 00
BRAUN PUMP CONTROLS 213 00
Bright White Paper Co
BriWhi Bright White Paper Co
Ck 137370 07 31 08
Iny 16995
Line Item Date
07 02 08
Iny 16995 Total
Brown Barbara
barbbrow Brown Barbara
Ck 137297 07 24 08
InY 071808
Line Item Date
07118 08
07 18 08
Iny 071808 Total
CARLSON CORRINE
carlcorr CARLSON CORRINE
Ck 137304 07 24 08
Iny 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 072308 Total
Ck 137370 Total
BriWhi
Bright White Paper Co
Ck 137297 Total
barbbrow
Brown Barbara
Ck 137304 Total
carlcorr
CARLSON CORRINE
Carmichiel Jim
carmjim Carmichiel Jim
Ck 137305 07 24 08
Iny 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Line Item Description
Double sided laminate
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 230 Q7
230 Q7
230 07
Bright White Paper Co 230 07
230 07
Line Item Description
Picnic Refund
Picnic Refund
Line Item Account
10 1 0000 2021
101 1541 3634
7 51
117 49
125 00
125 00
Brown Barbara 125 00
125 00
Line Item Description
Refund Pearson Animal Show Breakfast
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 5 00
5 00
5 00
CARLSON CORRINE 5 00
5 00
Line Item Description
Refund Pearson Animal Show Breakfast
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 12 00
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Iny 072308 Total
Amount
12 00
Ck 137305 Total 12 00
carmjim Carmichiel Jim 12 00
Carmichiel Jim 12 00
Carver County
carcou Carver County
Ck 137303 07 24 08
Iny 00575
Line Item Date
07 09 08
Iny 00575 Total
Line Item Description
Tire car Tire truck
Line Item Account
101 1320 4350 46 75
46 75
Iny SHERIOOI 109
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07116 08 Carver County Sheriff Services 07 03 04
Iny SHERIOOI 109 Total
Line Item Account
101 1210 4300 901 25
901 25
Ck 137303 Total 948 00
carcou Carver County 948 00
Carver County 948 00
CARVER SWCD
CARSWC CARVER SWCD
Ck 137306 07 24 08
Iny 1344
Line Item Date
06 30 08
06 30 08
Iny 1344 Total
Line Item Description
The Arbors
The Arbors
Line Item Account
720 0000 4300
400 0000 1155
275 00
660 00
935 00
Ck 137306 Total 935 00
Ck 137371 07 3l108
Iny 1350 1360
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 29 08 CSEC Monitoring
07 29 08 CSEC Monitoring
Iny 1350 1360 Total
Line Item Account
720 0000 4300
720 0000 1155
165 00
715 00
880 00
Ck 137371 Total 880 00
CARSWC CARVER SWCD 1 815 00
CARVER SWCD 1 815 00
CENTURY TEL
CENTEL CENTURY TEL
Ck 137372 07 3l108
InY 072108
Line Item Date
07 2 lI08
07 2l108
07 2 lI08
Line Item Description
July phone services bill
July phone services bill
July phone services bill
Line Item Account
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
700 7019 4310
145 40
145 40
152 87
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07 21 08 July phone services bill
Inv 072108 Total
101 1160 4320
Amount
350 00
793 67
Ck 137372 Total 793 67
CENTEL CENTURY TEL 793 67
CENTURY TEL 793 67
CERTIFIED POWER INC
cerpow CERTIFIED POWER INC
Ck 137307 07 24 08
Inv 50158589
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 09 08 Element Filter
Inv 50158589 Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4120 110 15
11 0 15
Ck 137307 Total 110 15
cerpow CERTIFIED POWER INC 110 15
CERTIFIED POWER INC 110 15
Chabin Olivier
chaboliv Chabin Olivier
Ck 137373 07 31 08
Inv 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Inv 072308 Total
Line Item Description
Refund Skyhawks Mini Hawk Multi Sport
Line Item Account
101 1710 3636 102 00
102 00
Ck 137373 Total 102 00
chaboliv Chabin Olivier 102 00
Chabin Olivier 102 00
Charles Cudd Company
ChaCud Charles Cudd Company
Ck 137374 07 31 08
Inv 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Inv 072308 Total
Line Item Description
Refund Asbuilt Escrow 8840 Lake Riley Dr
Line Item Account
815 8226 2024 1 500 00
1 500 00
Ck 137374 Total 1 500 00
ChaCud Charles Cudd Company 1 500 00
Charles Cudd Company 1 500 00
CHASKA PARK RECREATION
CHAPR CHASKA PARK RECREATION
Ck 137308 07 24 08
Inv 11852
Line Item Date
07 21 08
Line Item Description
Segway Tour 22 @ 98 59
Line Item Account
101 1560 4300 2 168 98
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Iny 11852 Total
Amount
2 168 98
Ck 137308 Total 2 168 98
CHAPR CHASKA PARK RECREATION 2 168 98
CHASKA PARK RECREATION 2 168 98
CITY OF CHANHASSEN PETTY CASH
CHAPET CITY OF CHANHASSEN PETTY CASH
Ck 137375 07 31 08
Iny 073008
Line Item Date
07 30 08
07 30 08
07 30 08
07 30 08
07 30 08
Iny 073008 Total
Line Item Description
July Petty Cash
July Petty Cash
July Petty Cash
July Petty Cash
July Petty Cash
Line Item Account
101 1618 4130
101 1618 4130
101 1616 4130
101 1615 4130
101 1616 4130
9 62
14 42
15 30
49 08
168 57
256 99
Ck 137375 Total 256 99
CHAPET CITY OF CHANHASSEN PETTY CASH 256 99
CITY OF CHANHASSEN PETTY CASH 256 99
CORPORATE EXPRESS
corexp CORPORATE EXPRESS Account 101 1170 4110
Ck 137309 07 24 08
Iny 88606343
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 14 08 White labels Uniball pens
Iny 88606343 Tot
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 88 95
88 95
Ck 137309 Total 88 95
corexp CORPORATE EXPRESS 88 95
CORPORATE EXPRESS 88 95
Diedrick Joseph Gail
diedjose Diedrick Joseph Gail
Ck 137376 07 31 08
Iny 073008
Line Item Date
07 30 08
Iny 073008 Total
Line Item Description
Driyeway permit oyerpymnt 370 Hidden Ln
Line Item Account
101 1310 4901 5 00
5 00
Ck 137376 Total 5 00
diedjose Diedrick Joseph Gail 5 00
Diedrick Joseph Gail 5 00
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Amount
DISPLAY SALES COMPANY
dissal DISPLAY SALES COMPANY
Ck 137310 07 24 08
InY INV0061500
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 16 08 Flag
Iny INV0061500 Total
Line Item Account
101 1550 4120 794 50
794 50
Ck 137310 Total 794 50
Ck 137377 07 31 08
Iny INV0061587
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07118 08 Retainer Ring 5
Iny INV0061587 Total
Line Item Account
101 1550 4120 40 47
40 47
Ck 137377 Total 40 47
DISSAL DISPLAY SALES COMPANY 834 97
DISPLAY SALES COMPANY 834 97
DONALD SALVERDA ASSOCIATES
DONSAL DONALD SALVERDA ASSOCIATES
Ck 137378 07 31 08
Iny 073008
Line Item Date
07 30 08
Iny 073008 Total
Line Item Description
Adyanced Effectiye Mgmnt Program 2008
Line Item Account
101 1420 4370 200 00
200 00
Ck 137378 Total 200 00
DONSAL DONALD SALVERDA ASSOCIATES 200 00
DONALD SALVERDA ASSOCIATES 200 00
DYNAMEX DELIVERS NOW
DYNAME DYNAMEX DELIVERS NOW
Ck 1373 11 07 24 08
Iny 1362829
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 10 08 postage
Iny 1362829 Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4330 38 93
38 93
Ck 137311 Total 38 93
Ck 137379 07 31 08
Iny 1363945
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 17 08 Deliyery from Public Wrk to MN DOH
Inv 1363945 Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4330 38 93
38 93
Ck 137379 Total 38 93
DYNAME DYNAMEX DELIVERS NOW 77 86
DYNAMEX DELIVERS NOW 77 86
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Amount
ECOLAB
ECOLAB ECOLAB
Ck 137380 07 31 08
InY 6374011
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 15 08 Rinse Dry
Iny 6374011 Total
Line Item Account
101 1430 4300 75 83
75 83
Ck 137380 Total 75 83
ECOLAB ECOLAB 75 83
ECOLAB 75 83
ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC
eleins ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC
Ck 137312 07 24 08
Iny 0009886 IN
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 16 08 Replace batteries at 3 siren sites
Iny 0009886 IN Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4530 1 500 00
1 500 00
Iny 0009887 IN
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 16 08 Replace antenna on siren ck siren
Iny 0009887 IN Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4530 560 00
560 00
Ck 137312 Total 2 060 00
eleins ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC 2 060 00
ELECTRICAL INSTALL MAINT INC 2 060 00
EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC
emeapp EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC
Ck 137313 07 24 08
InY 061808
Line Item Date
07 03 08
Iny 061808 Total
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Line Item Account
101 1220 4140 494 84
494 84
Ck 137313 Total 494 84
emeapp EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC 494 84
EMERGENCY APPARATUS MAINT INC 494 84
Ernst Associates
Ernst Ernst Associates
Ck 13 73 81 07 31 08
Iny 8272
Line Item Date
07 18 08
Iny 8272 Total
Line Item Description
Landscape Irrigation
Line Item Account
400 4142 4300 3 031 43
3 031 43
Ck 137381 Total 3 031 43
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Ernst
Ernst Associates
Ernst Associates
GESKE GREGG
geskgreg GESKE GREGG
Ck 13 73 82 07 3 1 08
Iny 071508
Line Item Date
07 15 08
InY 071508 Total
Ck 137382 Total
geskgreg
GESKE GREGG
GFOA
GFOA GFOA
Ck 137292
Iny 072208
Line Item Date
07 22 08
Iny 072208 Total
Ck 137292 Total
GFOA
GFOA
Gifford Judith
giffjudi Gifford Judith
Ck 1373 14 07 24 08
Iny 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 072308 Total
Ck 137314 Total
giffjudi
Gifford Judith
Line Item Description
Water Gatorade
GESKE GREGG
07 22 08
Line Item Description
seminar registration Reed
GFOA
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 3 I
Amount
3 031 43
3 031 43
Line Item Account
101 1220 4290 88 52
88 52
88 52
88 52
88 52
Line Item Account
101 1130 4370 616 50
616 50
616 50
616 50
616 50
Line Item Description
Refund Pearson Animal Show Breakfast
Gifford Judith
Glowing Hearth Home
GloHea Glowing Hearth Home
Ck 137383 07 31 08
Iny 073008
Line Item Date
07 30 08
07 30 08
Iny 073008 Total
Ck 137383 Total
Line Item Description
Job not done refund
Job not done refund
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 5 00
5 00
5 00
5 00
5 00
Line Item Account
101 0000 2022
101 1250 3305
0 75
41 25
42 00
42 00
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GloHea Glowing Hearth Home
Amount
42 00
Glowing Hearth Home 42 00
GOODPOINTE TECHNOLOGY INC
GOOTEC GOODPOINTE TECHNOLOGY INC
Ck 137384 07 31 08
Iny 1066
Line Item Date
07 29 08
Iny 1066 Total
Line Item Description
Task 2 trail eyallcondition survey
Line Item Account
101 1550 4300 1 260 00
1 260 00
Ck 137384 Total 1 260 00
GOOTEC GOODPOINTE TECHNOLOGY INC 1 260 00
GOODPOINTE TECHNOLOGY INC 1 260 00
Hach Company
hach Hach Company
Ck 137315 07 24 08
InY 5804581
Line Item Date
07 1 0 08
InY 5804581
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Total
Line Item Account
700 7019 4150 104 52
104 52
Iny 5806581
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 11 08 Plant supplies
Iny 5806581 Total
Line Item Account
700 7019 4120 35 36
35 36
Ck 137315 Total 139 88
hach Hach Company 139 88
Hach Company 139 88
HAMILTON MICHAEL
HamiMich HAMIL TON MICHAEL
Ck 137316 07 24 08
InY 072108
Line Item Date
07 21 08
Iny 072108 Total
Line Item Description
Adult softball umpire 12 games @ 22 50
Line Item Account
101 1766 4300 270 00
270 00
Ck 137316 Total 270 00
HamiMich HAMILTON MICHAEL 270 00
HAMILTON MICHAEL 270 00
HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON
hantho HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON
Ck 1373 17 07 24 08
Iny 17228
Line Item Date
07 07 08
Line Item Description
Lake Riley Woods Channel stabilization
Line Item Account
720 0000 4300 76 00
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Iny 17228 Total
Amount
76 00
Iny 17243
Line Item Date
07 07 08
Iny 17243 Total
Line Item Description
Moccasin Longacres Pond Pond cleanout
Line Item Account
720 0000 4150 1 800 00
1 800 00
Iny 17244
Line Item Date
07 07 08
Iny 17244 Total
Line Item Description
Fox Hill City Proj 07 08
Line Item Account
400 0000 1155 884 50
884 50
Iny 17245
Line Item Date
07 07 08
Iny 17245 Total
Line Item Description
Crossroads of Chanhassen City Proj 08 10
Line Item Account
400 0000 1155 3 301 00
3 301 00
Ck 137317 Total 6 061 50
HANTHO HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON 6 061 50
HANSEN THORP PELLINEN OLSON 6 061 50
HAWKINS CHEMICAL
HA WCHE HAWKINS CHEMICAL
Ck 137385 07 31 08
Iny 1210133RI
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 16 08 Chlorine Chlorine Cylinder
Iny 1210133RI Total
Line Item Account
700 7019 4160 1 704 59
1 704 59
Ck 137385 Total 1 704 59
HA WCHE HAWKINS CHEMICAL 1 704 59
HAWKINS CHEMICAL 1 704 59
HD Supply Waterworks L TD
HDsup HD Supply Waterworks L TD
Ck 137386 07 31 08
Iny 7393874C
Line Item Date Line Item Description
06 13 08 Misc parts supplies
Iny 7393874C Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4550 467 59
467 59
Iny 7595739
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 21 08 Misc parts supplies
Iny 7595739 Totm
Line Item Account
700 0000 4250 4 883 03
4 883 03
Iny 7595765
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 21 08 Twist Tite Wire Seal
Iny 7595765 Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4250 100 11
100 11
Ck 137386 Total 4 515 55
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HDsup HD Supply Waterworks LTD
Amount
4 515 55
HD Supply Waterworks LTD 4 515 55
Hegman Kathryn
HegmKath Hegman Kathryn
Ck 137387 07 31 08
Iny 073008
Line Item Date
07 30 08
Iny 073008 Total
Line Item Description
Refund Gibbs Museum Pioneer Farmstead
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 3 6 00
36 00
Ck 137387 Total 36 00
HegmKath Hegman Kathryn 36 00
Hegman Kathryn 36 00
HIGHWAY TECHNOLOGIES
HITECH HIGHWAY TECHNOLOGIES
Ck 137319 07 24 08
Iny 304274 001
Line Item Date
07 12 08
Iny 304274 001
Line Item Description
Cones barricades for July 4 parade
Total
Line Item Account
101 1613 4300 638 67
638 67
Ck 13 7319 Total 638 67
HITECH HIGHWAY TECHNOLOGIES 638 67
HIGHWAY TECHNOLOGIES 638 67
HOESE DOUG
hoesdoug HOESE DOUG
Ck 137388 07 31 08
Iny 072808
Line Item Date
07 28 08
Iny 072808 Total
Line Item Description
Training 07 16 08 07 18 08
Line Item Account
101 1250 4370 273 75
273 75
Ck 137388 Total 273 75
hoesdoug HOESE DOUG 273 75
HOESE DOUG 273 75
Hokkanen Laurie A
hokklaur Hokkanen Laurie A
Ck 137389 07 31 08
Iny 073008
Line Item Date
07 30108
07 30 08
07 30 08
Iny 073008 Total
Line Item Description
Mileage to MCMA Conference Nisswa MN
Mileage from MCMA Conference Nisswa MN
Chamber Picnic from Costco
Line Item Account
101 1120 4370
101 1120 4370
101 1110 4375
75 75
75 75
170 18
321 68
Ck 137389 Total 321 68
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hokkIaur Hokkanen Laurie A
Amount
321 68
Hokkanen Laurie A 321 68
ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457
ICMART ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457
Ck 137390 07 31 08
Iny
Line Item Date
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
Iny Total
Line Item Description
PR Batch 401 82008 ICMA
PR Batch 401 82008 ICMA
PR Batch 401 82008 ICMA
Line Item Account
210 0000 2009
720 0000 2009
10 1 0000 2009
40 00
100 00
705 00
845 00
Ck 137390 Total 845 00
ICMART ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457 845 00
ICMA RETIREMENT AND TRUST 457 845 00
John s Appliance Service
JohApp John s Appliance Service
Ck 137391 07 31 08
Iny 11793
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 15 08 Ice Maker
Iny 11793 Total
Line Item Account
10 1 1170 4530 275 71
275 71
Ck 137391 Total 275 71
JohApp John s Appliance Service 275 71
John s Appliance Service 275 71
JOHNSTONE SUPPLY
JOHSUP JOHNSTONE SUPPLY
Ck 137392 07 31 08
Iny 188100
Line Item Date
07 15 08
Iny 188100 Total
Line Item Description
Bearing Assembly
Line Item Account
101 1190 4530 308 01
308 01
Ck 137392 Total 308 01
JOHSUP JOHNSTONE SUPPLY 308 01
JOHNSTONE SUPPLY 308 01
Jon Rohs Homes Inc
jonrohs Jon Rohs Homes Inc
Ck 137320 07 24 08
InY 072108
Line Item Date
07 21 08
07 21 08
InY 072108 Total
Line Item Description
2175 Lake Harrison Rd Erosion Escrow
2175 Lake Harrison Rd Landscape Escrow
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024
815 8201 2024
500 00
750 00
1 250 00
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Ck 137320 Total
Amount
1 250 00
jonrohs Jon Rohs Homes Inc 1 250 00
Jon Rohs Homes Inc 1 250 00
Kapaun Pat
KapaPat Kapaun Pat
Ck 137393 07 31 08
Iny 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 072308 Total
Line Item Description
Refund Pearson Animal Show Breakfast
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 5 00
5 00
Ck 137393 Total 5 00
KapaPat Kapaun Pat 5 00
Kapaun Pat 5 00
KEOGH JEFF
KEOGJEFF KEOGH JEFF
Ck 137322 07 24 08
InY 071708
Line Item Date
07 17 08
Iny 071708 Total
Line Item Description
Employee Expense Report J Keogh
Line Item Account
101 1250 4370 82 60
82 60
Ck 137322 Total 82 60
KEOGJEFF KEOGH JEFF 82 60
KEOGH JEFF 82 60
Kidder Steye Summer
kiddstey Kidder Steye Summer
Ck 137394 07 31 08
Iny 073008
Lirie Item Date
07 30 08
Iny 073008 Total
Line Item Description
Erosion Escrow released 641 0 Rojina Ln
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
Ck 137394 Total 500 00
kiddstey Kidder Steve Summer 500 00
Kidder Steve Summer 500 00
KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES INC
KIMHOR KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES INC
Ck 137395 07 31 08
Iny 3548535
Line Item Date Line Item Description
06 30 08 2005 Musa Area Expansion
Iny 3548535 Total
Line Item Account
602 6014 4300 939 44
939 44
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Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
Inv 3548539
Line Item Date Line Item Description
06 30 08 2008 Street Improvement
Inv 3548539 Total
Line Item Account
601 6018 4752 35 032 80
35 032 80
Ck 137395 Total 35 972 24
KIMHOR KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES INC 35 972 24
KIMLEY HORN AND ASSOCIATES INC 35 972 24
Lake Susan Apartments
laksus Lake Susan Apartments
Ck 137396 07 31 08
Inv 073008
Line Item Date
07 30 08
Inv 073008 Total
Line Item Description
Refund of billed tax on utility bills
Line Item Account
700 0000 3903 3 433 80
3 433 80
Ck 137396 Total 3 433 80
1aksus Lake Susan Apartments 3 433 80
Lake Susan Apartments 3 433 80
LANZI BOB
lanzbob LANZI BOB
Ck 137397 07 31 08
Inv 072908
Line Item Date
07 29 08
Inv 072908 Total
Line Item Description
Adult softball umpire 17 games @ 22 50
Line Item Account
101 1766 4300 382 50
382 50
Ck 137397 Total 382 50
lanzbob LANZI BOB 382 50
LANZI BOB 382 50
LEE S RUBBER STAMPS
LEERUB LEE S RUBBER STAMPS
Ck 137398 07 31 08
Inv 34232
Line Item Date
07 28 08
Inv 34232 Total
Line Item Description
Rubber stamp
Line Item Account
101 1250 4120 35 20
35 20
Ck 137398 Total 35 20
LEERUB LEE S RUBBER STAMPS 35 20
LEE S RUBBER STAMPS 35 20
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Amount
Lee Boyd F
boydIee Lee Boyd F
Ck 13 7299 07 24 08
Iny 071808
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 18 08 Performance Fee 07 17 08
Iny 071808 Total
Line Item Account
101 1620 4300 650 00
650 00
Ck 137299 Total 650 00
boydlee Lee Boyd F 650 00
Lee Boyd F 650 00
Lisa Lynn Consulting Ine
Iynnlisa Lisa Lynn Consulting Ine
Ck 137399 07 31 08
Iny 070808
Line Item Date
07 08 08
Iny 070808 Total
Line Item Description
Assessment process for Public Works Dept
Line Item Account
101 1310 4300 1 000 00
1 000 00
Ck 137399 Total 1 000 00
Iynnlisa Lisa Lynn Consulting Ine 1 000 00
Lisa Lynn Consulting Ine 1 000 00
LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION
LUNBRO LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION
Ck 137323 07 24 08
Iny 072108
Line Item Date
07 21 08
07 21 08
Iny 072108 Total
Line Item Description
6925 Lk Harrison Cir Landscape escrow
6925 Lk Harrison Cir Erosion escrow
Line Item Account
815 8201 2024
815 8202 2024
750 00
1 000 00
1 750 00
Ck 137323 Total 1 750 00
LUNBRO LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION 1 750 00
LUNDGREN BROS CONSTRUCTION 1 750 00
MARK J TRAUT WELLS INC
MATRUA MARKJ TRAUTWELLSINC
Ck 137325 07 24 08
Iny 070108
Line Item Date
07 01 08
07 01 08
Iny 070108 Total
Line Item Description
Wells 12 13
Wells 12 13
Line Item Account
700 7023 4751
700 7022 4751
104 436 35
104 436 35
208 872 70
Ck 137325 Total 208 872 70
MA TRUA MARK J TRAUT WELLS INC 208 872 70
MARK J TRAUT WELLS INC 208 872 70
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Mattson Contracting
MatCon Mattson Contracting
Ck 137324 07 24 08
Iny 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 072308 Total
Ck 137324 Total
MatCon
Mattson Contracting
Mattson Jim
mattjim Mattson Jim
Ck 137326 07 24 08
Iny 071508
Line Item Date
07 15 08
InY 071508 Total
Ck 137326 Total
mattjim
Mattson Jim
Line Item Description
2543 Bridle Creek Trl Erosion Escrow
Mattson Contracting
Line Item Description
Rebate for LG WM 0042
Mattson Jim
MAUND ENTERTAINMENT INC
mauent MAUND ENTERTAINMENT INC
Ck 137327 07 24 08
Iny 2952
Line Item Date
07 21 08
Iny 2952 Total
Ck 137327 Total
mauent
Line Item Description
2 face painters for 07 23 08
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
Line Item Account
815 8202 2024 500 00
500 00
500 00
500 00
500 00
Line Item Account
720 7204 490 I 100 00
100 00
100 00
100 00
100 00
Line Item Account
101 1618 4300 300 00
300 00
300 00
MAUND ENTERTAINMENT INC
MAUND ENTERTAINMENT INC
300 00
McMahon Maryann
mcmamary McMahon Maryann
Ck 137328 07 24 08
Iny 072208
Line Item Date
07 22 08
07 22 08
Iny 072208 Total
Ck 137328 Total
mcmamary
McMahon Maryann
Line Item Description
Cr for Apex Int l Picnic 3488
Cr for Apex Int l Picnic 3488
McMahon Maryann
300 00
Line Item Account
101 0000 2021
101 1541 3634
7 51
1l7 49
125 00
125 00
125 00
125 00
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MINNESOTA LIFE
MNLIFE MINNESOTA LIFE
Ck 137329 07 24 08
Inv 071508
Line Item Date
07 15 08
07115 08
07115 08
07 15 08
07 15 08
07115 08
07115 08
07 15 08
07 15 08
07115 08
07115 08
07 15 08
07 15 08
07 15 08
07 15 08
07 15 08
07 15 08
07115 08
07 15 08
07115 08
07115 08
07 15 08
07 15 08
07115 08
07115 08
07115 08
07 15 08
Inv 071508 Total
Ck 137329 Total
MNLIFE
MINNESOTA LIFE
Line Item Description
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
August life insurance
MINNESOTA LIFE
MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR
MNCHIL MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR
Ck 137400 07 31 08
Inv
Line Item Date
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
Inv Total
Ck 137400 Total
MNCHIL
Line Item Description
PR Batch 401 82008 Garnishment
PR Batch 401 8 2008 Garnishment
PR Batch 40 I 8 2008 Garnishment
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
Line Item Account
210 0000 2011
101 1430 4040
720 7201 4040
720 7202 4040
101 1700 4040
101 1170 4040
101 1530 4040
101 1210 4040
210 0000 4040
101 1600 4040
101 1520 4040
720 0000 4040
10 1 1160 4040
101 1220 4040
700 0000 2011
700 0000 2011
101 1130 4040
101 1370 4040
701 0000 4040
101 1420 4040
101 1120 4040
700 0000 4040
101 1310 4040
101 1550 4040
101 1320 4040
101 1250 4040
10 1 0000 20 11
0 17
3 90
5 04
5 04
5 09
12 00
12 48
14 64
15 84
20 35
23 04
28 56
31 44
31 50
33 14
33 14
40 69
42 89
59 43
70 02
84 00
84 39
86 70
104 76
107 88
116 40
503 50
1 576 03
1 576 03
1 576 03
1 576 03
Line Item Account
10 1 0000 2006
700 0000 2006
701 0000 2006
34 61
179 04
179 05
392 70
392 70
MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR
MN CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT CTR 392 70
392 70
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MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE
NCPERS MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE
Ck 137404 07 31 08
Inv
Line Item Date
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
Inv Total
CITY OF CHANHAS
User danielle
Ck 137404 Total
NCPERS
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
Line Item Description
PR Batch 401 82008 NCPERS life insurance
PR Batch 401 82008 NCPERS life insurance
PR Batch 401 82008 NCPERS life insurance
Line Item Account
701 0000 2011
700 0000 2011
101 0000 2011
1 59
1 61
12 80
16 00
16 00
MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE 16 00
MN NCPERS LIFE INSURANCE 16 00
MN RECREATION PARK ASSOC
MRP A MN RECREATION PARK ASSOC
Ck 137332 07 24 08
Inv 072208
Line Item Date
07 22 08
Inv 072208 Total
Ck 137332 Total
MRPA
Line Item Description
Region state tournament Berths
Line Item Account
101 1766 4300 1 200 00
1 200 00
1 200 00
MN RECREATION PARK ASSOC 1 200 00
MN RECREATION PARK ASSOC 1 200 00
MN VALLEY COMMUNITY BAND
MNV AL MN VALLEY COMMUNITY BAND
Ck 137330 07 24 08
Inv 071808
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 18 08 Performance fee 07 24 08
Inv 071808 Total
Ck 137330 Total
MNV AL
Line Item Account
101 1620 4300 350 00
350 00
350 00
MN VALLEY COMMUNITY BAND 350 00
MN VALLEY COMMUNITY BAND 350 00
MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP
MVEC MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP
Ck 137402 07 31 08
Inv 072108
Line Item Date
07 21 08
07 21 08
07 21 08
07 21 08
07 21 08
07 21 08
07 21 08
07 21 08
07 21 08
07 21 08
Line Item Description
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
Line Item Account
701 0000 4320
101 1350 4320
701 0000 4320
101 1350 4320
101 1350 4320
701 0000 4320
101 1350 4320
101 1350 4320
101 1350 4320
101 1600 4320
15 74
21 04
32 71
40 13
43 31
57 11
63 47
80 44
82 56
84 69
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Printed 08 01 08 09 3 I
07 21 08 July bill
InY 072I08 Total
101 1350 4320
Amount
124 99
646 19
Ck 137402 Total
MVEC
646 19
MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP 646 19
MN VALLEY ELECTRIC COOP 646 19
MOORE MEDICAL
moomed MOORE MEDICAL
Ck 137331 07 24 08
Iny 80856363EI
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 11 08 Misc supplies
Iny 80856363EI Total
Ck 137331 Total
moomed
MOORE MEDICAL
MSRS
MSRS MSRS
Ck 137401
Iny
Line Item Date
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
Line Item Account
101 1220 4130 110 95
110 95
110 95
MOORE MEDICAL 11 0 95
110 95
07 31 08
Line Item Description
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 05 Emplr NO FICA
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 3 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 3 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 1 Emplr NO FICA
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 1 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 1 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 3
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 3
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 1 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 1 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 2 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 2 Emplr
PR Batch 401 8 2008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 401 8 2008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 5 NO FICA
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 05 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 5 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 3 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 401 8 2008 Ret Health 1
PR Batch 401 8 2008 Ret Health 1
PR Batch 40182008 Ret Health l NO FICA
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 1 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 7 Emplr
PR Batch 401 82008 Post Health 2 Emplr
PR Batch 401 8 2008 Ret Health 1
PR Batch 401 8 2008 Ret Health l
Line Item Account
101 0000 2016
210 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
720 0000 2016
210 0000 2016
720 0000 2016
210 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
IOI 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
720 0000 2016
210 0000 2016
720 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
IOI 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
700 0000 2016
0 14
0 23
0 27
0 29
0 40
0 53
0 54
1 41
1 50
1 97
2 91
3 72
3 73
3 86
5 40
5 88
7 05
7 06
7 08
9 99
11 45
11 53
11 81
18 45
19 63
25 87
27 51
36 42
41 82
49 39
50 39
70 47
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07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
Iny Total
Ck 137401 Total
MSRS
MSRS
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 2
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 2
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 5
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 3
PR Batch 401 8 2008 Ret Health 1
PR Batch 401 82008 Ret Health 7
PR Batch 401 8 2008 Ret Health 2
Amount
76 91
92 23
149 44
150 78
154 34
476 67
546 68
645 51
2 731 26
700 0000 2016
701 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
10 1 0000 20 16
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
101 0000 2016
2 731 26
MSRS 2 731 26
2 731 26
MX Logic
MXLog MX Logic
Ck 137333 07 24 08
Iny INV190099
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 01 08 SP AM A V Filter Service July
Iny INV190099 Total
NATIONAL FIRE SPRINKLER ASSN
NFSA NATIONAL FIRE SPRINKLER ASSN
Ck 137407 07 31 08
Iny 9272
Line Item Date
07 28 08
Iny 9272 Total
Ck 137333 Total
MXLog
MX Logic
Ck 137407 Total
NFSA
Line Item Account
101 1160 4300 97 00
97 00
97 00
MX Logic 97 00
97 00
Line Item Description
Subscriber Membership Dues
Line Item Account
101 1220 4360 85 00
85 00
85 00
NATIONAL FIRE SPRINKLER ASSN 85 00
NATIONAL FIRE SPRINKLER ASSN 85 00
NATIONWIDE RETIREMENT SOLUTION
NA TRET NATIONWIDE RETIREMENT SOLUTION
Ck 137403 07 31 08
Iny
Line Item Date
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
07 29 08
Iny Total
Ck 137403 Total
NATRET
Line Item Description
PR Batch 401 82008 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 401 82008 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 401 82008 Nationwide Retirement
PR Batch 401 82008 Nationwide Retirement
Line Item Account
720 0000 2009
700 0000 2009
701 0000 2009
101 0000 2009
50 00
297 51
459 91
4 478 84
5 286 26
5 286 26
NATIONWIDE RETIREMENT SOLUTION 5 286 26
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NATIONWIDE RETIREMENT SOLUTION
Amount
5 286 26
NESBURG PAUL
nesbpaul NESBURG PAUL
Ck 137405 07 31 08
Inv 073008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 30 08 Rebate for GE Dishwasher
Inv 073008 Total
Line Item Account
720 7204 4901 100 00
100 00
Ck 137405 Total 100 00
nesbpaul NESBURG PAUL 100 00
NESBURG PAUL 100 00
NEXTEL
NEXTEL NEXTEL
Ck 137406 07 31 08
Inv 603663316080
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
07 22 08 Cellular services July
Inv 603663316080 Total
Line Item Account
101 1170 4310
101 1530 4310
101 1130 4310
720 0000 4310
10 1 1260 4310
101 1160 4310
101 1600 4310
701 0000 4310
101 1520 4310
101 1310 4310
101 1550 4310
101 1370 4310
101 1220 4310
700 0000 4310
101 1320 4310
101 1120 4310
101 1250 4310
20 05
20 05
29 58
48 93
52 09
78 00
79 04
100 06
127 71
143 98
155 31
176 60
219 78
226 90
240 56
317 45
323 25
2 359 34
Ck 137406 Total 2 359 34
NEXTEL NEXTEL 2 359 34
NEXTEL 2 359 34
NYSTROM PUBLISHING COMPANY INC
NYSPUB NYSTROM PUBLISHING COMPANY INC
Ck 137334 07 24 08
Inv 22449
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 11 08 Down the Drain cards
Inv 22449 Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4300 775 43
775 43
Ck 137334 Total 775 43
NYSPUB NYSTROM PUBLISHING COMPANY INC 775 43
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NYSTROM PUBLISHING COMPANY INC
Amount
775 43
Parker Dr Marcie
parkmarc Parker Dr Marcie
Ck 137335 07 24 08
Inv 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Inv 072308 Total
Line Item Description
Refund Pearon Animal Show Breakfast
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 5 00
5 00
Ck 137335 Total 5 00
parkmarc Parker Dr Marcie 5 00
Parker Dr Marcie 5 00
Parts Plus
parpIu Parts Plus
Ck 137336 07 24 08
Inv 038329395
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 15 08 Rotor Seal
Inv 038329395 Total
Line Item Account
101 1260 4140 97 36
97 36
Ck 137336 Total 97 36
Ck 137408 07 31 08
Inv 038075070
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 24 08 Reissuing ck original ck 136563
Inv 038075070 Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4140 263 78
263 78
Ck 137408 Total 263 78
parplu Parts Plus 361 14
Parts Plus 361 14
Pierre Ronda
pierrond Pierre Ronda
Ck 137337 07 24 08
Inv 072208
Line Item Date
07 22 08
Inv 072208 Total
Line Item Description
Girls advanced skills lacrosse refund
Line Item Account
101 1730 3636 75 00
75 00
Ck 137337 Total 75 00
pierrond Pierre Ronda 75 00
Pierre Ronda 75 00
Pietsch Builders Inc
PieBui Pietsch Builders Inc
Ck 137409 07 31 08
Inv 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Line Item Description
Released Asbuilt Escrow 7125 Gunflint Tr
Line Item Account
815 8226 2024 1 500 00
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Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Iny 072308 Total
Amount
1 500 00
Ck 137409 Total 1 500 00
PieBui Pietsch Builders Inc 1 500 00
Pietsch Builders Inc 1 500 00
POSTMASTER
POST POSTMASTER
Ck 137410 07 31 08
Iny 072508
Line Item Date
07 25 08
07 25 08
Iny 072508 Total
Line Item Description
Nonautomation letters cards or flats
Nonautomation letters cards or flats
Line Item Account
700 0000 4330
701 0000 4330
358 54
358 54
717 08
Ck 137410 Total 717 08
POST POSTMASTER 717 08
POSTMASTER 717 08
PRO STAFF
PROST A PRO STAFF
Ck 137411 07 31 08
Iny 102713068
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 24 08 Receptionist Renee Strasburg 07 20 08
Iny 102713068 Total
Line Item Account
10 1 1120 4020 119 94
119 94
Ck 137411 Total 119 94
PROST A PRO STAFF 119 94
PRO STAFF 119 94
Quality Control Integration
qualcon Quality Control Integration
Ck 137338 07 24 08
Iny 301
Line Item Date
07 14 08
07 14 08
InY 301 Total
Line Item Description
Wells 12 13 Master SCADA Upgrades
Wells 12 13 Master SCADA Upgrades
Line Item Account
700 7022 4300
700 7023 4300
2 460 00
2 460 00
4 920 00
Iny 302
Line Item Date
07 14 08
Iny 302 Total
Line Item Description
SCADA Supply Installation Well 12
Line Item Account
700 7022 4300 4 390 00
4 390 00
Iny 303
Line Item Date
07 14 08
Iny 303 Total
Line Item Description
SCADA Supply Installation Well 13
Line Item Account
700 7023 4300 4 390 00
4 390 00
Ck 137338 Total 13 700 00
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Printed 08 01 08 09 31
qualcon Quality Control Integration
Amount
13 700 00
Quality Control Integration 13 700 00
QUILL CORPORATION
QUILL QUILL CORPORATION
Ck 137412 07 31 08
Iny 8849244
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 22 08 Misc office supplies
Iny 8849244 Totw
Line Item Account
101 1170 4110 237 38
237 38
Ck 137412 Total 237 38
QUILL QUILL CORPORATION 237 38
QUILL CORPORATION 237 38
SASS CONSTRUCTION INC
SASCON SASS CONSTRUCTION INC
Ck 137339 07 24 08
Iny 071508
Line Item Date
07 15 08
Iny 071508 Total
Line Item Description
Re 8687 Stonefield Ln Chanhassen
Line Item Account
101 1260 4300 961 25
961 25
Ck 137339 Total 961 25
SASCON SASS CONSTRUCTION INC 961 25
SASS CONSTRUCTION INC 961 25
Scharrer Viola
schayiol Scharrer Viola
Ck 137340 07 24 08
Iny 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 072308 Total
Line Item Description
Refund Pearson Animal Show Breakfast
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 6 00
6 00
Ck 137340 Total 6 00
schayiol Scharrer Viola 6 00
Scharrer Viola 6 00
Seaya Diying Inc
SeaDiv Seaya Diving Inc
Ck 137341 07 24 08
InY 307167
Line Item Date
07 17 08
InY 307167 Total
Line Item Description
BCD service and part
Line Item Account
101 1220 4530 46 63
46 63
Ck 137341 Total 46 63
SeaDiv Seaya Diving Inc 46 63
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SENTRY SYSTEMS INC
sensys SENTRY SYSTEMS INC
Ck 137342 07 24 08
Iny 581376
Line Item Date
07 21 08
Iny 581376 Total
SIMONDS LEONE
SIMOLEON SIMONDS LEONE
Ck 137414 07 31 08
IllY 073008
Line Item Date
07 30 08
Iny 073008 Total
CITY OF CHANHAS
User danielle
Seaya DiYing Inc
InY 581414
Line Item Date
07 21 08
Iny 581414 Total
Iny 582221
Line Item Date
07 21 08
Iny 582221 Total
Ck 137342 Total
sensys
SENTRY SYSTEMS INC
SIGNSOURCE
SIGNSO SIGNSOURCE
Ck 137413 07 31 08
Iny 18098
Line Item Date
07 29 08
Iny 18098 Total
Ck 137413 Total
SIGNSO
SIGNSOURCE
Ck 137414 Total
SIMOLEON
SIMONDS LEONE
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
46 63
Line Item Description
Commercial Monitoring Services
Line Item Account
101 1190 4300 52 16
52 16
Line Item Description
Commercial monitoring services
Line Item Account
10 1 1170 4300 78 98
78 98
Line Item Description
Annual fire alarm test inspection
Line Item Account
101 1170 4300 141 89
141 89
273 03
SENTRY SYSTEMS INC 273 03
273 03
Line Item Description
Picnic Menu Panel Cabinet for Parkyiew
Line Item Account
101 1540 4120 1 965 46
1 965 46
1 965 46
SIGNSOURCE 1 965 46
1 965 46
Line Item Description
Refund Gibbs Museum Pioneer Farmstead
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 36 00
36 00
36 00
SIMONDS LEONE 36 00
36 00
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CITY OF CHANHAS
User danieIle
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
SKYHA WKS SPORTS ACADEMY
SKYSPR SKYHA WKS SPORTS ACADEMY
Ck 137343 07 24 08
Iny 171819326
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 11 08 Payment for Summer Programming
Iny 171819326 Total
Line Item Account
101 1730 4300 6 837 00
6 837 00
Ck 137343 Total 6 837 00
SKYSPR SKYHA WKS SPORTS ACADEMY 6 837 00
SKYHA WKS SPORTS ACADEMY 6 837 00
SL SERCO
SLSER SL SERCO
Ck 137344 07 24 08
Iny 11072696C
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 17 08 2007 2008 water quality reports
Iny 11072696C Total
Line Item Account
700 0000 4300 1 000 00
1 000 00
Ck 137344 Total 1 000 00
SLSER SL SERCO 1 000 00
SL SERCO 1 000 00
SM HENTGES SONS
SMHEN SM HENTGES SONS
Ck 137345 07 24 08
InY 1
Line Item Date
06 30 08
Iny 1 Total
Line Item Description
CP 08 01 2008 Street Improyements
Line Item Account
601 6018 4751 155 097 92
155 097 92
Ck 137345 Total 155 097 92
SMHEN SM HENTGES SONS 155 097 92
SM HENTGES SONS 155 097 92
Smith Joy
smitjoy Smith Joy
Ck 137415 07 31 08
Iny 073008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 30 08 Rebate for Kenmore Ultra Wash dishwasher
Iny 073008 Total
Line Item Account
720 7204 4901 100 00
100 00
Ck 137415 Total 100 00
smitjoy Smith Joy 100 00
Smith Joy 100 00
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User danielle
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
SOUTHWEST LOCK KEY
souloc SOUTHWEST LOCK KEY
Ck 137346 07 24 08
Iny 10873
Line Item Date
07 1 0 08
Iny 10873 Total
Line Item Description
Maint Bldg lock services
Line Item Account
700 0000 4510 311 39
311 39
Ck 137346 Total 311 39
Ck 137416
Iny 10902
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 10902 Total
07 31 08
Line Item Descriotion
Rekeyable Pad Lock
Line Item Account
700 0000 4530 311 80
311 80
Ck 137416 Total 311 80
SOULOC SOUTHWEST LOCK KEY 623 19
SOUTHWEST LOCK KEY 623 19
Spenser Francie
Spensfra Spenser Francie
Ck 137347 07 24 08
Iny 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 072308 Total
Line Item Description
Refund for Pearson Animal Show Breakfast
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 5 00
5 00
Ck 137347 Total 5 00
Spensfra Spenser Francie 5 00
Spenser Francie 5 00
Sports Unlimited
Spounl Sports Unlimited
Ck 137417 07 31 08
Iny 072408
Line Item Date
07 24 08
Iny 072408 Total
Line Item Description
Payment for Summer Basketball Camp
Line Item Account
101 1731 4300 980 00
980 00
Ck 137417 Total 980 00
Spounl Sports Unlimited 980 00
Sports Unlimited 980 00
SPRINT PCS
SPRPCS SPRINT PCS
Ck 13 7348 07 24 08
InY 240298813 008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 18 08 Sprint wireless Internet
07 18 08 Sprint wireless Internet
07 18 08 Sprint wireless Internet
Line Item Account
101 1220 4310
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
41 70
83 40
92 41
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User danielle
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
InY 240298813 008 Total
Amount
217 51
Ck 137348 Total 217 51
Ck 137349
Iny 070708
Line Item Date
07 07 08
07 07 08
Iny 070708 Total
07 24 08
Line Item Description
July biII
July biII
Line Item Account
700 0000 4310
701 0000 4310
44 30
44 30
88 60
Ck 137349 Total 88 60
SPRPCS SPRINT PCS 306 11
SPRINT PCS 306 11
ST HUBERT S
STHUB ST HUBERT S
Ck 137350 07 24 08
InY 071808
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 18 08 Picnic reservation refund S1 Huberts
Iny 071808 Total
Line Item Account
101 1541 3634 20 00
20 00
Ck 137350 Total 20 00
STHUB ST HUBERT S 20 00
ST HUBERT S 20 00
STEINER DEVELOPMENT
STEDEV STEINER DEVELOPMENT
Ck 137418 07 31 08
InY 99201316061308
Line Item Date Line Item Description
06 1 3 08 Soil boring @ Arboretum Business Park 7
InY 99201316061308 Total
Line Item Account
410 0000 4300 5 965 00
5 965 00
Ck 137418 Total 5 965 00
STEDEV STEINER DEVELOPMENT 5 965 00
STEINER DEVELOPMENT 5 965 00
Stowe Virginia
stowvirg Stowe Virginia
Ck 137351 07 24 08
Iny 072308
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 23 08 Refund Pearson Animal Show Breakfast
Iny 072308 Total
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 6 00
6 00
Ck 137351 Total 6 00
stowvirg Stowe Virginia 6 00
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User danielle
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Stowe Virginia
Amount
6 00
Sullivan Mackenzie
sullmack Sullivan Mackenzie
Ck 137419 07 31 08
Iny 073008
Line Item Date
07 30 08
Iny 073008 Total
Line Item Description
Refund Lake Ann Adyenture Camp Session 1
Line Item Account
101 1731 3636 92 00
92 00
Ck 137419 Total 92 00
sullmack Sullivan Mackenzie 92 00
Sullivan Mackenzie 92 00
Swensson Kris
SwenKris Swensson Kris
Ck 137420 07 31 08
Iny 12040349RI
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 17 08 Saber Syn Multi Purp Grease
Iny 12040349RI Total
Line Item Account
101 1370 4170 88 96
88 96
Ck 137420 Total 88 96
SwenKris Swensson Kris 88 96
Swensson Kris 88 96
TARGET
T ARGET TARGET
Ck 137421 07 31 08
InY 071808
Line Item Date
07 18 08
Iny 071808 Total
Line Item Description
Softsoap
Line Item Account
101 1250 4120 4 78
4 78
Ck 137421 Total 4 78
TARGET TARGET 4 78
TARGET 4 78
TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY
TOLGAS TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY
Ck 137352 07 24 08
InY 225301
Line Item Date
06 27 08
Iny 225301 Total
Line Item Description
Safety glasses
Line Item Account
101 1550 4120 27 63
27 63
Ck 137352 Total 27 63
TOLGAS TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY 27 63
TOLL GAS WELDING SUPPLY 27 63
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User danielle
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
TOP NOTCH TREE CARE
TOPNOT TOPNOTCHTREECARE
Ck 137422 07 31 08
Iny X04330801
Line Item Date
07 09 08
Iny X04330801
Line Item Description
Spray spruce trees
Total
Line Item Account
101 1550 4300 990 45
990 45
Ck 137422 Total 990 45
TOPNOT TOP NOTCH TREE CARE 990 45
TOP NOTCH TREECARE 990 45
ULTIMATE MARTIAL ARTS INC
UL TMAR ULTIMATE MARTIAL ARTS INC
Ck 137353 07 24 08
Iny 07
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 07 Total
Line Item Description
Little Tigers in Prior Lake June 2007
Line Item Account
101 1538 4300 73 60
73 60
Ck 137353 Total 73 60
UL TMAR ULTIMATE MARTIAL ARTS INC 73 60
ULTIMATE MARTIAL ARTS INC 73 60
UNITED WAY
UNIW A Y UNITED WAY
Ck 137423 07 31 08
Iny
Line Item Date
07 29 08
07 29 08
Iny Total
Line Item Description
PR Batch 401 82008 United Way
PR Batch 401 82008 United Way
Line Item Account
720 0000 2006
101 0000 2006
5 00
28 40
33 40
Ck 137423 Total 33 40
UNIW A Y UNITED WAY 33 40
UNITED WAY 33 40
USA Inflatable
usainf USA Inflatable
Ck 137424 07 31 08
Iny 681
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 681 Total
Line Item Description
Moon Bounce for Penny Carniyal
Line Item Account
101 1618 4300 179 34
179 34
Ck 137424 Total 179 34
usainf USA Inflatable 179 34
USA Inflatable 179 34
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W ACONIA DODGE
W ACDOD W ACONIA DODGE
Ck 137354 07 24 08
Inv 9381
Line Item Date
07 16 08
Inv 9381 Total
WACONIA FARM SUPPLY
WACFAR WACONIA FARM SUPPLY
Ck 137355 07 24 08
Inv 62655
Line Item Date
07 16 08
Inv 62655 Total
CITY OF CHANHAS
User danielle
Ck 137354 Total
WACDOD
W ACONIA DODGE
Ck 137355 Total
WACFAR
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Line Item Account
101 1260 4140 733 79
733 79
733 79
W ACONIA DODGE 733 79
733 79
Line Item Description
Misc parts supplies
Line Item Account
101 1550 4120 157 83
157 83
157 83
WACONIA FARM SUPPLY 157 83
WACONIA FARM SUPPLY 157 83
W A TEROUS COMPANY
W A TCOM WATEROUS COMPANY
Ck 137425 07 31 08
Inv P2B2149001
Line Item Date
07 22 08
Inv P2B2I4900I
WATSON COMPANY
WATSON WATSON COMPANY
Ck 137356 07 24 08
Inv 758118
Line Item Date
07 17 08
Inv 758118 Total
Ck 137425 Total
W A TCOM
W A TEROUS COMPANY
Ck 137356 Total
WATSON
WATSON COMPANY
Line Item Description
Rack Edival Dischg valve repair kit
Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4520 169 50
169 50
169 50
WATEROUS COMPANY 169 50
169 50
Line Item Description
Lake Ann concession supplies
Line Item Account
101 1540 4130 247 25
247 25
247 25
WATSON COMPANY 247 25
247 25
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User danielle
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
Weir Daniel
weirdan Weir Daniel
Ck 137357 07 24 08
Iny 071608
Line Item Date
07 16 08
07 16 08
InY 071608 Total
Line Item Description
Refund not doing job
Refund not doing job
Line Item Account
101 0000 2022
101 1250 3301
1 50
83 25
84 75
Ck 137357 Total 84 75
weirdan Weir Daniel 84 75
Weir Daniel 84 75
WILSON S NURSERY INC
WILNUR WILSON S NURSERY INC
Ck 137426 07 31 08
InY 037242
Line Item Date
07 24 08
Iny 037242 Total
Line Item Description
Shrubs Perennials Eyergreens spread
Line Item Account
101 1550 4120 308 32
308 32
Ck 137426 Total 308 32
WILNUR WILSON S NURSERY INC 308 32
WILSON S NURSERY INC 308 32
Woods Donna Jean
woodonna Woods Donna Jean
Ck 137358 07 24 08
Iny 072308
Line Item Date
07 23 08
Iny 072308 Total
Line Item Description
Refund Pearson Animal Show Breakfast
Line Item Account
101 1560 3637 5 00
5 00
Ck 137358 Total 5 00
woodonna Woods Donna Jean 5 00
Woods Donna Jean 5 00
WS DARLEY CO
WSDAR WS DARLEY CO
Ck 137360 07 24 08
Iny 0000795889
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 14 08 Misc parts supplies
Iny 0000795889 Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4260 231 86
231 86
Ck 137360 Total 231 86
Ck 137427 07 31 08
Iny 0000796451
Line Item Date
07 16 08
InY 0000796451
Line Item Description
Hook 32 closet
Total
Line Item Account
101 1220 4260 111 47
111 47
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CITY OF CHANHAS
User danielle
Ck 137427 Total
WSDAR WS DARLEY CO
WS DARLEY CO
WSB ASSOCIATES INC
wsb WSB ASSOCIATES INC
Ck 137359 07 24 08
Iny 1
Line Item Date Line Item Description
06 30 08 Professional Services Lotus Lake
Iny I Total
Ck 137359 Total
wsb WSB ASSOCIATES INC
WSB ASSOCIATES INC
WW GRAINGER INC
WWGRA WW GRAINGER INC
Ck 137428 07 31 08
Iny 3005014238
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 23 08 Supplies for wood carving class
InY 3005014238 Total
Ck 137428 Total
WWGRA WW GRAINGER INC
WW GRAINGER INC
XCEL ENERGY INC
XCEL XCEL ENERGY INC
Ck 137361 07 24 08
Iny 063008
Line Item Date Line Item Description
06 30 08 June bill
Iny 063008 Total
InY 071608
Line Item Date
07 16 08
07 16 08
07 16 08
07 16 08
07116 08
07116 08
07 16 08
InY 071608 Total
Line Item Description
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
July bill
InY 231999548
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 21 08 July bill
InY 231999548 Totm
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
111 47
343 33
343 33
Line Item Account
720 7211 4300 1 057 50
1 057 50
1 057 50
1 057 50
1 057 50
Line Item Account
101 1731 4130 57 11
57 11
57 11
57 11
57 11
Line Item Account
700 0000 4320 14 821 93
14 821 93
Line Item Account
700 0000 4320
701 0000 4320
101 1551 4320
101 1370 4320
101 1220 4320
101 1170 4320
101 1190 4320
74 00
74 00
130 04
592 03
1 015 45
3 251 21
5 610 68
10 747 41
Line Item Account
700 7019 4320 12 813 65
12 813 65
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User danieIle
Ck 137361 Total
Ck 137429
InY 072108
Line Item Date
07 21 08
07 21 08
InY 072108 Total
Iny 072208
Line Item Date
07 22 08
07 22 08
07 22 08
07 22 08
07 22 08
Iny 072208 Total
Ck 137429 Total
xcel
XCEL ENERGY INC
07 31 08
Line Item Description
July bill Lift Stations
July bill Lift Stations
Line Item Description
July Parks Dept bill
July Park Shelters bill
July Parks Dept bill
July Parks Dept bill
July Signals Lights bill
XCEL ENERGY INC
ZOERHOF PEGGIE
ZOERPEGG ZOERHOF PEGGIE
Ck 137430 07 31 08
InY OI06crc
Line Item Date Line Item Description
07 25 08 Stott Pilates Essential Mat PLUS
InY OI06crc Total
Ck 137430 Total
ZOERPEGG
ZOERHOF PEGGIE
Total
ZOERHOF PEGGIE
Accounts Payable
Check Detail Report Detail
Printed 08 01 08 09 31
Amount
38 382 99
Line Item Account
700 0000 4320
701 0000 4320
946 95
3 147 09
4 094 04
Line Item Account
101 1600 4320
101 1600 4320
101 1550 4320
101 1540 4320
101 1350 4320
67 21
199 99
231 00
2 288 14
19 829 44
22 615 78
26 709 82
65 092 81
65 092 81
Line Item Account
101 1539 4300 343 00
343 00
343 00
343 00
343 00
774 520 31
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N
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Description
07 08 07 08 74798268190000000000186 PAYMENT THANK YOU 00000 W
TOTAL CORPORATE ACTIVITY
11 544 48 CR
Amount
11 544 48 PY
IKA AANENSON CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
478 55
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTiVITY
478 55
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri lion Amount
06 19 06 19
07 02 07 02
07 02 07 02
24692168171000138702049
24138298184207334245390
24138298184207731240788
AMAZON COM AMZN COM BILLWA IOI I 2 i 70 13 55
APA ON LINE MEMBERSHIPS 312 431 9100 IL f D f i 2 c f 1 200 00
APA ON LINE MEMBERSHIPS 312 431 9100 IL Jell 1 1 4 30 10265 00
CUSTOMER SERVICE CALL ACCOUNT NUMBER ACCOUNT SUMMARY
II PREVIOUS BALANCE 11 544 48
1 800 344 5696 OTHER CHARGES 16938 05
STATEMENT DATE DISPUTED AMOUNT CASH ADVANCES 00
07 15 08 00 CASH ADVANCE FEES 00
t
RGES 00
SEND BILLING INQUIRIES TO AMOUNT DUE CREDITS 1 395 55
PAYMENTS 11 544 48
U S BANK 15 542 50 P O Box 6344
Fargo ND 58125 6344 ACCOUNT BALANCE 15 542 50
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SUSAN BILL
Post Tran
Date Date
06 25 06 23
06 26 06 25
06 27 06 26
06 27 06 26
06 27 06 26
06 30 06 26
06 30 06 29
07 02 06 30
07 04 07 02
07 15 07 14
6RAIG W CARLSON
Comoanv Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Comorate Account Number
Statement Date 07 15 2008
Reference Number
24164078176845450902030
74164078177941073404498
74493988179200099400612
24427338178720013309248
24493988179200099400021
74164078179845460946821
24224438182010006276506
24164078183691003300434
24164078185845441060020
24427338196720004869786
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
07 07 07 05 24445008188368615988236
07 10 07 09 24427338191720005170411
07 15 07 14 24427338196720004869562
CHARLES CHIHOS
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
CREDITS
50 77
PURCHASES
1 378 16
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
1 327 39
Transaction Descri tion Amount
RAINBOW FOODS 00088708 CHASKA MN ID 115100 30 82 69
RADIOSHACK COR00161315 CHANHASSEN MN IDI 15 i 1 7 0 38 65CR PARTY AMERICA 1017 CHANHASSEN MN IOl IL Iot 11D 2 12CR
CULVERS OF CHANHASSEN CHANHASSEN MN Ibl I iI O 1 0 99 09
PARTY AMERICA 1017 CHANHASSEN MN I 1 5 6tl l 10 18 01
RAINBOW FOODS 00088708 CHASKA MNlcl I 1 10 00CR
PRACNAON MAIN MINNEAPOLIS MN IOI I Io
O
o 1 114 29
KWIK TRIP 40200004028 CHANHASSEN MN IDi bll 4 D 371 7750 RAINBOW FOODS 00088708 CHASKA MN I Q 1 100 1 24 63 CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN I bl 711 0 4 O
O
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
44 69
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
44 69
Transaction Descri tion
WALGREENS 9728 CHANHASSEN MN l D i 1 5 CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN I tCH 11 CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN
1
0
01 9 llt
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
74 09
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
74 09
06 17 06 16 24224438169010023672270 LOTUS LAKE GARDEN CHANHASSEN MN
06 19 06 18 24246518171286199801500 SHOREWOOD TRUE VALUE EXCELSIOR MN
Transaction Descri tion
KEVIN CROOKS
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
06 18 06 16 24445008169344113862861
06 23 06 20 24610438173010180140505
07 11 07 09 24164078192091007813939
t HARLES A EILER
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
196 55
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
196 55
Amount
21 29
13 33
10 07
Amount
47 93
26 16
Amount
69 19
103 17
24 19
06 26 06 24 24610438177010181023672 THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN I l 1 560 Lf 2 loo 46 51
Amount
Transaction Descri tion
OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN D I 9 II 2 0
THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN ICl COC Lfc 0 TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN ClD O JO l
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
46 51
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
46 51
Transaction Descri tion
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ComDanv Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Comorate Account Number
Statement Date 07 15 2008
H
ITODD GERHARDT
I J JJ
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
29 00
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
29 00
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
07 09 07 07 24445008190370955726750 TGI FRIOAYS 0249 ROSEVILLE MN I D I 2 D 1 0
IGREGG GESKE
I
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
109 50
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
109 50
Amount
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion Amount
07 02 06 30 24164078183255007796441 SUBWAY 00111690 CHANHASSEN MNICll 1 2 2 0 L1 48 37 07 0707 04 24427338186720005084130 CUBFOOOSCHANHASSENMN 10 1 2 1 0 f 1D 61 13
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
687 12
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
687 12
Post Tran
Date Date
06 19 06 17
07 03 07 01
07 08 07 07
Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
WACONIA FARM HOME WACONIA MN I Ol I o L t60 TARGET 00008623CHANHASSEN MN O It O I O PARTY AMERICA 1017 CHANHASSEN MN 1 1 II O Lj 12 0
24910168170002735819868
24164078184091011245359
24493988190200099400059
I COREY GRUENHAGEN
I L CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
1 790 71
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
1 790 71
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
06 19 06 18 24445008170345386793730
06 19 06 18 24445008170345386793813 07 03 07 02 24445008184363360647735 07 11 07 09 24445008192373506837793
Transaction Descri tion
COW GOVERNMENT 800 800 4239 IL 10 f 11o Lj 3 COW GOVERNMENT 800 800 4239 IL Y Dc 0 tlO Y I I COW GOVERNMENT 800 800 4239 IL ID oa Y cQ OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN D 1 I ol 1 I 0
TODD HOFFMAN CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
288 56
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
288 56
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
06 17 06 16 24427338168720007409048
06 20 06 18 24164078171755242871176
07 10 07 08 24013398191002502652926 07 14 07 10 24610438193010177538006
BYERLY S CHANHASSEN CHANHASSEN MN l 1 l jt IO
HOULlHANS 00111021 CHANHASSEN MNYIO f i j j J Y DQ JIMMY JOHNS CHANHASSEN MN 10 THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN hiD 4 1o 110 O
I CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
35 00
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
35 00
Amount
637 11
37 26
12 75
Amount
75 47
1 320 93
234 58
159 73
Amount
16 20
30 79
63 37
178 20
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29 00
207
ComDanv Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CorDorate Account Number
Statement Date 07 15 2008
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
06 30 06 26 240133981 79002108830740 JIMMY JOHNS CHANHASSEN MN r 01 1 7 II D
Amount
35 00
LAURIE A HOKKAHlN CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
345 32
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
345 32
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion Amount
06 25 06 23
06 26 06 24
07 10 07 08
07 15 07 14
24427338176710028999481 EINSTEIN BROS 1842 CHANHASSEN MN I D I II 0 1 l 0 116 03 2422390817705oo03675 05 HANHASSEN CHAMBER 0952 9343903 MN bw 140 00 2416407819109101084153 TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN 6 29 242244381970300252392 MILlOS SANDWICHES EDEN PRAIRIE MN I I I IClI 2 3
IO 83 00
IrERRANCE JEFFERY
101 llZ tf l l I O D
CREDITS PURCHASES
0 00 472 79
leI 1t 2 0 l 1 1GbtLO 01 10 o Y1 lQ
CASH ADV TOTAL ACTIVITY 2 0 0 00 472 79
IU 11 0
4 11 2 0
Amount
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
U OF M CCE 612 625 4259 MN 7 2 0 0 0 l 0 JIMMY JOHNS CHANHASS EN MN 1 l C 00J0 4 10
325 00
147 79
06 18 06 18 24266578170286358100017
06 30 06 26 24013398179002093173676
ERRY JOHNSON CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
99 42
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
99 42
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
06 19 06 18 24717058171131712818648
06 25 06 23 24610438176010180172588
07 09 07 08 24266578191729127325758 07 11 07 10 24427338192720018453308
Transaction Descri tion Amount
HD SUPPLY WATERWORKS 230952 9379666 MOlOI Of J I THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN rOI l fc t FASTENAL CO MOITO 507 453 8920 MN t I Cf j Ll 2 MCDONALD S F6591 CHANHASSEN MN Ol
vu
I C OO Y 3
13 87
54 76
9 12
21 67
MARK L1TTFIN CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
13 82
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
13 82
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri lion
07 04 07 02 24445008185364798785005 OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN 10 1110 1 II
Amount
13 82
PATRICK MACZKO CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
59 98
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
59 98
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion Amount
06 30 06 28 24717058181691817598468 MILLS FLEET FARM 25 LAKEVILLE MN b 132 o Ll 2l o 59 98
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tii Comoany Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Coroorate Account Number
Statement Date 07 15 2008
IfsRETT MARTINSON
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
06 19 06 17 24610438170010182058807
06 23 06 20 24427338172720005903897
06 25 06 24 24717058176151769530040
07 04 07 02 24445008185364798784925
AAUL OEHME
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
224 57
CASH ADV
0 00
Transaction Descri tion Amount
THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MNloo Y 5 o 99 79 CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN 1 1Q t Lj I 15 08 PRAIRIE LAWN AND GARDEN EDEN PRAIRIE MNIO HI n 83 09 OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN 1 X L 11 o 26 61
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
181 04
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
181 04
06 25 06 23 24445008176353026892171 OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN I I t 4 30
Transaction Descri tion
IRICHARD D RICE
A
Post Tran
Date Date
06 20 06 19
06 23 06 20
06 24 06 23
06 25 06 24
06 30 06 26
07 02 06 30
07 02 07 01
07 09 07 08
07 10 07 09
07 11 07 10
JODI L SARLES
Post Tran
Date Date
06 17 06 16
06 18 06 16
06 18 06 17
06 19 06 17
06 19 06 17
06 23 06 20
07 01 06 30
07 07 07 06
I6EAN SCHMIEG
Reference Number
24445008171346676216837
24445008172347905413780
24445008175351828069981
24445008176353026892254
24445008179356979418271
24071058183987196618317
24445008183362149487828
74445008190370955726672
24445008191372149720383 24761978192286348400010
Reference Number
24455018168141005646593
24387758169004017518833
24427338169720004927058
24164078170091007616429
24445008170345386848294
24164078173091007631144
74455018182141005944615
24445008189369295558801
CREDITS
1 223 69
PURCHASES
4 476 82
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
3 253 13
Transaction Oescri tion
CDW GOVERNMENT 8oo 800 4239IL YD l1 2 t YiO
CDW GOVERNMENT 800 800 4239 IL I I I C Y t c CDW GOVERNMENT 8oo 8oo 4239IL le l llloc o CDW GOVERNMENT 800 800 4239 IL 101 II o II 0 OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN QI I 1100 fin PRO PACK SHIP CHANHASSEN MN ID 1 00 4 1100 CDW GOVERNMENT 800 800 4239 IL Oo i1 2 1o Lf 01 CDW GOVERNMENT VERNON HILLS IL 1 L I 2 10 1 Cl
CDW GOVERNMENT 800 800 42391L 01 111 0 l O ALTIMA TECHNOLOGIES E 630 281 6464 IL I I o f oc
CREDITS
29 13
PURCHASES
137 14
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
108 01
Transaction Descri tion
WAL MART 1855 EDEN PRAIRIE MN Dl f O Y 170 MICHAELS 6733 EDEN PRAIRIE MN 161 I t 3 I1 c
CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN I 0 1 3 l 1 TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN tol It I lI o CVS PHARMACY 1747 Q03 CHANHASSEN MN Illl lt o II I IRT 1
2 NcrRAA I
S N ll tS I 11 3
WALGREENS 4119 MINNEAPOLIS MN lot 113D
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
245 58
CASH AOV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
245 58
Amount
181 04
Amount
2 501 50
101 37
51 51
51 51
108 00
20 98
1 117 19
1 223 69 CR
124 76
400 00
Amount
60 54
15 99
26 99
11 13
5 65
8 33
29 13CR
8 51
Page 5 of 8 209
I
Comoanv Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Coroorate Account Number
Statement Date 07 15 2008
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion Amount
06 18 06 17 24610438169004004188259 SHERWIN WILLIAMS 3211 CHANHASSEN MN ID 1 4 o 106 63 06 30 06 26 24418008179179016002301 ORIENTAL TRADING CO 800 2280475 NE t l 1 0 4 Z o 138 95
CHARLES SIEGLE CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
50 71
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
50 71
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion
07 04 07 03 24717058186121863570760 JOHNSON T W HARDWARE BLOOMINGTON MN
07 08 07 07 24427338189720004903121 CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN
41LL SINCLAIR CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
661 57
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
661 57
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri lion
CANDYFAVORITES COM 412 678 8851 PA i1J 7 21 1 L11 3D
NOR LAB INC 440 2825265 OH rZ o 72 OLt Y 1 0 PARTY AMERICA 1017 CHANHASSEN MN 1 2 C1 i Z Ol 11 MACKENTHUN S COUNTY WACONIA MN r Z t 2 0 41 CI
06 18 06 18 24435658170286487700535
06 19 06 18 24446028170980001000884
26 06 25 24493988178200099400584
06 27 06 26 24427338178720008669556
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
436 93
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
436 93
Post Tran
Date Date
06 23 06 20
06 23 06 21
06 24 06 23
06 30 06 28
06 30 06 28
07 07 07 03
07 07 07 03
07 14 07 11
Reference Number
24164078173091008090605
24427338173720005725356
24717058175731757436176
24164078181091007530577
24493988180200099401125
24164078186091007197976
24427338185720006681323
24224438194020005248220
Transaction Descri tion
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MNIO 12 U 1 2 4D
CUB FOODS CHANHASSEN MN lcd 1 2 2 0 1 2 fD NATIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR 1866 2990411 NJ
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN 0 I 22o I f l 4o PARTY AMERICA 1017 CHANHASSEN MN I l 12 Z o Y2 1o TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN 01 1 7 ic o lffi t sg A Ak kN l N 0 42 90
Dl 1 2 2 0 2 1 0
JEAN STECKLlNG CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
344 50
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
344 50
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
06 25 06 24 24401408176001352467167
07 10 07 09 24412958191014000012246
Transaction Descri tion
Amount
18 74
31 97
Amount
448 73
184 00
18 07
10 7 7
Amount
57 55
54 00
59 30
59 82
80 83
44 01
45 32
36 10
Amount
USPS 2663650317 CHANHASSEN MN 16 1 lo l 3 o 94 50 AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS DAN PAVLlCH@C MO DI 1310 Lf 1J50 00
6REG STICHA CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
1 279 91
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
1 279 91
Page 6 of 8 210
Camoanv Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Camarate Accaunt Number
Statement Date 07 15 2008
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
06 19 18 24210738170207528602770
06 19 06 17 24323008170542103010136
06 20 06 18 24423638171346676216753
06 20 06 19 24610438171004074206953
06 20 06 18 24610438171004074210724
06 20 06 19 24610438171072002031801
07 09 07 07 24164078190490000011883
07 15 07 15 24492158197207733603240
AOHN W STUTZMAN
Post Tran
Date Date
06 26 06 24
07 02 06 30
07 02 06 30
07 07 07 02
07 07 07 04
07 15 07 14
Reference Number
24418008177177015223607
24164078183091007715077
24445008183362149501842
24323018186117308010016
24427338186720005092059
24474748197284650281300
MARJORIE A THJi
Post Tran
Date Date
06 20 06 18
06 20 06 18
06 26 06 24
06 26 06 24
06 26 06 24
ICORI WALLIS
Reference Number
24164078171091007620776
24164078171091011328051
74164078177091012239165
24164078177091007785227
24387758177004013682757
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number
Transaction Descri tion Amount
YELLOW CAB FORT LAUDERDA FL 101 II L1 no 22 50
15TH STREET FISHERIES FORT LAUDERDA FL 45 33
MSP AIRPORT PARKING SAINT PAUL MN 96 00
MARRIOTT 337C6 HARBOR BCH FT LAUDERDALE FL 982 95
9100047060005 ARRIVAL 06 13 08
MARRIOTT 337C6 HAR BC F B FT LAUDERDALE FL
2120000400005 ARRIVAL 06 18 08
FT LAUD HOLLYWD INTL AIRP FT LAUDERDALE FL
APPLEBEES 612500161257 CHANHASSEN MN
PAYPAL INC 888 883 9770 NE
11 41
13 77
48 00
59 95
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
1 069 73
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
1 069 73
Transaction Descri tion
ORIENTAL TRADING CO 800 2280475 NE IDt ol 41
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN 1 7 SI 41 0 OFFICE MAX CHANHASSEN MN bl I 1 So DOMINO S PIZZA 01976 CHANHASSEN 0 lIo 4 I g s
V E L iE iM 1N 4130
I I 0 11 3 1JUO
Amount
678 65
4 24
29 01
155 00
3 89
198 94
CREDITS
80 03
PURCHASES
1 054 37
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
974 34
Transaction Descri tion
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN IOI I P1 3 41 0
TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN IOI l f YI o TARGET 00008623 CHANHASSEN MN 101 1 1 3 I H
LS 6 1 N MN 101 1101 3 l1 O
10 1 0 110
Amount
750 32
191 68
80 03 CR
61 22
51 15
CREDITS
0 00
PURCHASES
613 48
CASH ADV
0 00
TOTAL ACTIVITY
613 48
Transaction Descri lion Amount
06 23 06 20 24610438173010180092219 THE HOME DEPOT 2812 EDEN PRAIRIE MN 1000 l 1 c I o 488 84 06 23 06 20 24610438173010180132171 THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN 1t t DCc Y o 124 64
IKE WEGLER CREDITS
11 93
PURCHASES
11 93
TOTAL ACTIVITY
0 00
CASH ADV
0 00
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion Amount
06 23 06 20 74610438173010180134289 THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN I Q I U 20 11 93CR
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Comnanv Name CITY OF CHANHASSEN
Comorate Account Number
Statement Date 07 15 2008
Post Tran
Date Date Reference Number Transaction Descri tion Amount
06 23 06 20 24610438173010180134268 THE HOME DEPOT 2825 CHESKA MN III 1 I 2 c 120 11 93
Department 00000 Total
Division 00000 Total
15 542 50
15 542 50
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
Administration
Phone 952 227 1100
Fax 952 227 1110
Building Inspections
Phone 952 227 1180
Fax 952 227 1190
Engineering
Phone 952 227 1160
Fax 952 227 1170
Finance
Phone 952 227 1140
Fax 952 227 1110
Park Recreation
Phone 952 227 1120
Fax 952 227 1110
Recreation Center
2310 Coulter Boulevard
Phone 952 227 1400
Fax 952 227 1404
Planning
Natural Resources
Phone 952 227 1130
Fax 952 227 1110
Public Works
1591 Park Road
Phone 952 227 1300
Fax 952 227 1310
Senior Center
Phone 952 227 1125
Fax 952 227 1110
Web Site
www ci chanhassen mn us
MEMORANDUM
TO Todd Gerhardt City Manager
Paul Oehme P E Dir Of Public Works City Engineering y IJ
FROM
DATE August 11 2008 O
SUBJ Request for Proposals for Architectural and Engineering Services
for Public Works Facility Project No 08 03
Staff has sent out proposal requests for Architectural and Engineering Services for
the Public Works Facility Proposals are due back on August 22 2008 Staff is
anticipating receiving four proposals A staff recommendation for these services
is scheduled for the September 22 2008 City Council meeting
Attachment Request for Proposal
Chanhassen is a Community for Life Providing for Today and Planning for Tomorrow 213
REQUEST
FOR PROPOSALS
FOR ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING SERVICES
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY
City Project 08 03
Submission Date August 22 2008 4 00 p m
Submit to Paul Oehme P E
Public Works Director City Engineer
7700 Market Boulevard
P O Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
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REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS
City of Chanhassen Operations and Maintenance Facility
1 BACKGROUND AND PROJECT DESCRIPTION
This request for proposal RFP outlines the nature and scope of professional services for
a design concept development plans and specifications preparation bidding services and
construction inspection administration services A project assessment review will be
necessary to determine the fleet storage fleet maintenance storage administration
support and employee facility needs
2 HISTORY OF PROJECT
The City of Chanhassen staff had drafted a facility needs study that identified operational
and maintenance space needs for public works It has been determined the existing
public works site is too small a parcel for expansion of the public works building The
City has also looked at purchasing property or purchasing a warehouse type facility and
remodeling it to accommodate public works The City has decided to build a new facility
on land currently owned by the City This property is large enough to accommodate the
ultimate facility needs of public works The new facility is anticipated to be
approximately an 83 000 square feet as identified in the Public Works Facility Program
Study Park Place Option
3 FACILITY NEEDS
A general overview of the new facility needs are as follows
A Administration
Public access and adequate reception and waiting area
Meeting conference space
Filing and record storage
Supervisory office space
Plan storage and layout area
Building security and site access control
Energy efficient heating ventilation and lighting system
Use of as much natural lighting as possible
Fiber Optic communication system connection
B Fleet Maintenance
Efficient cost effective layout
Adequate overhead lift height
Drive thru service bays
Centralized parts and equipment area
Proper ventilation and heating
Vehic1e exhaust system
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Workbench space
Vehicle truck hoist
Vehicle wash facility
Fuel island facility
Vehicle welding facility
Parts reception area
Adequate work repair space
Use of as much natural lighting as possible
C Employee Support Area
Adequate lunchlkitchen facilities and eating space This area will also
be used as a polling location for elections
Men s and Ladies locker room facilities with adequate locker space
Adequate Training Meeting room
Use of as much natural lighting as possible
D Vehicle Storage Building
Adequate Storage Space
Energy efficient heating ventilation and lighting system
Wash down capacity at parking stalls
Use of as much natural lighting as possible
Cold Storage salt sand building will be moved to the new site by City
forces
4 SCOPE OF CONSULTANT SERVICES
The general scope of the consultant services will be to verify the assumptions the City
has made for current and future needs as identified in the Public Works Program Study
The consultant will also complete the preliminary and final design of the proposed
facility including building security ergonomics lighting requirements HV AC
requirements pollution control vehicle repair facility and computer connection to City
network The Consultant will also be responsible for construction observation activities
and administration
A Project Evaluation and Concept Development
Verify departments needs with regard to administration fleet
servicing and repairs streets parks and utilities
Organize and lead four 4 engineering planning meetings
Conduct necessary divisional meetings to determine employee needs
Assume two 2 meetings will be need
Develop up to three design concepts of building layouts
Develop a preferred recommended layout for submission to City
Council and Planning Commission and other agencies as needed
Lead and provide necessary layouts and schematics for three 3
presentations to the City Council
Lead and provide the necessary layouts and schematics for one 1
Planning Commission meeting
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Identify equipment needed for the new facility
Develop cost estimates for equipment and preferred facility concept
B Plans and Specifications
Preparation of the construction plans and specifications for the
selected layout This will include all the necessary improvements for
completed construction and operation of the facility which generally
include structural mechanical electrical architectural interior
design landscaping and site plans
The City may elect to complete the site civil work including wetland
mitigation and storm sewer work in house This work shall be
clearly separated out in the fee proposal section
Acquire all necessary administrative approvals and permits for all
required regulating agencies
Coordinate all necessary soils testing reports
Preparation of bid documents for the proposed construction project
Administer the bid process and field all questions by perspective
contractors
Design and add an alternate bid item for ground source heat pump
geothermal heating and cooling for the general office building area
C Construction Services
Perform pre construction layout
Provide construction observation and communication including testing
scheduling
Review and comment on shop drawing
Administer change orders
Coordinate all inspections necessary for the project
Coordinate regular construction meetings assume meetings will be
weekly for the duration of the project
Advise City on construction progress
Process pay requests
Prepare project close out punch list items
Final out project
Obtain all necessary as built drawings as determined by the City
5 SELECTION SCHEDULE
The City is anticipating an accelerated consultant selection process The anticipated
schedule is as follows
RFP to Consultants
RFP back to City
Proposal Review Complete
Consultant Interviews if needed
Consultant Selection
Council Approval
August 6 2008
August 22 2008
August 29 2008
Week of Sept 1 2008
September 8 2008
September 22 2008
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6 RFP CONTENT ORGANIZATION AND SUBMISSION
A General Information
1 Identification of the offering firm s including name address and
telephone number of each firm
2 Acknowledgement of receipt of RFP addenda if any
3 Name title address email address and telephone and fax numbers of
contact person during period of proposal evaluation
4 Identify the firm s legal status i e corporation partnership etc
B Firm Qualifications
1 History and background of the firm
2 Years in business
3 Number of professionals in the firm by work description and available
support staff
4 Statement of the firm s focus values and strategic goals
5 Client reference list with contacts and telephone numbers
6 List any subcontracted professionals that will be used on this project
C Statement of Project Understanding
1 Describe the understanding of the project and the methodology for
satisfying the project requirements
2 Outline the approach that will be used to identify project needs and
Issues
D Proposed Time Line
Provide a proposed timeline with projected completion dates The City s
expectation is to having the facility occupied by the first quarter of 2010
E Comparable Projects
List all similar projects that have been completed or undertaken by name
location project scope construction cost compliance with budget and
client names and telephone numbers
F Resume of Key Staff
1 List anticipated project staff by title and discipline
2 Provide Individual resumes
G Financials
1 Provide billing rates for all project personnel and anticipated billable
hours that are estimated for this project
2 The Consultant shall provide a detailed cost breakdown in spreadsheet
format for performing the work including time hourly rates for each
personnel materials equipment and subcontractors required Costs
shall be broken out into project scope areas as indicated in Section 4
The estimate shall clearly identify any additions overhead
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reimbursable expenses and profit A total cost not to be exceeded for
all work shall be included
3 Specialty testing shall be contracted separately however the consulting
firm shall acquire at least two 2 quotes for City review and approval
for each testing contract required An estimate for specialty testing
services shall be included in the proposal
4 The consultant contract shall be at an hourly rate with a maximum not
to exceed amount
H Additional Information
Provide any other additional information to the City to help them make the
selection of a consultant in regard to any special considerations or reasons
why your firm should be selected for the project At the end of the
proposal your firm may include any other related project information that
is relevant to this proposed project This information shall be condensed
to only a few pages
I Addenda Clarifications
Any changes to this RFP will be made by written addendum Verbal
modification will not be binding
J Submission
The Consultant shall submit five 5 copies of the RFP proposal by 4 00
p m on August 22 2008
Please direct them to
Paul Oehme P E
Public Works Director City Engineer
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard P O Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
K Pre Contractual Expenses
Proposal should be prepared simply and economically providing a clear
concise description of services offered that meet the requirement of this
request for proposal The City will not be responsible for any pre
contractual expenses Pre contractual expenses are defined as expenses
incurred by the Consultant in
1 Preparing its proposal in response to this RFP
2 Submitting that proposal to the City of Chanhassen
3 Negotiating with the City of Chanhassen any matter related to this
proposal or
4 Any other expenses incurred by the Consultant prior to the date of
execution of the Proposed Agreement
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7 CITY CONTACT
Firms are requested to direct all questions and inquiries about this RFP to
Paul Oehme P E
Public Works Director City Engineer
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard P O Box 147
Chanhassen MN 55317
952 227 1169
poehme@ci chanhassen mn us
8 PROPOSAL EV ALVA TION AND SELECTION
A Evaluation
Proposals will be reviewed by an evaluation panel The panel will use the
following criteria to rank the proposals
Item
Staffing
Project understanding and approach
Relevant experience and design innovations
Ability to provide AlE services
Client References
AlE Consultant fees
Points
10
10
25
10
15
30
100 Points
B Interview
The City may decide to interview a select group of firms to make an oral
presentation to demonstrate the consultant firm s capacity understanding
and approach to completing this project Proposals with the greatest point
total will be the firms invited to give an oral presentation to the evaluation
panel The panel will then rank the firms in the order of preference
9 EXCEPTIONS AND DEVIATIONS
The consultant may include other services outside the scope of this proposal that the firm
feels maybe needed The consultant also may propose cost saving items Any exceptions
to the requirements in this RFP including the language in the contractual terms must be
included in the proposal If the Consultant proposes changes to the scope of work
include a description reason for the change and added deducted engineering costs
Segregate all exceptions as a separate element of the proposal under the heading
Exceptions and Deviations
10 CITY RIGHTS
Issuance of this RFP and receipt of proposals does not commit the City of Chanhassen to
award a contract The City of Chanhassen reserves the right to postpone opening for its
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own convenience to accept or reject any or all proposals received in response to this
RFP to negotiate with other than the selected Consultant should negotiations with the
selected be terminated to negotiate with more than one Consultant simultaneously or to
cancel all or part of this RFP Final authorization to execute an agreement can only be
made by the City Council and until that occurs there are no commitments by the City
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