04-1-98 Agenda and Packet FILE
AGENDA
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 1, 1998 at 7:00 P.M.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 CITY CENTER DRIVE
CALL TO ORDER
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. CSM Corporation request for Preliminary plat of Lot 2,Block 1,Chanhassen East Business Center
Second Addition (3.46 acres) into 2 lots; site plan review of two buildings (15,005 sq. ft. and
12,727 sq. ft.) and vacation of an existing drainage and utility easement on property zoned IOP and
located in the southwest corner of Dell Road and Hwy. 5, Chanhassen East Business Center Phase
III.
2. Land Group, Inc. and Bluff Creek Partners request for rezoning from A2, Agricultural
Estate to PUD; Preliminary PUD and plat approval for 3 lots and one outlot and for an
office-industrial project which would permit a church/institutional use on property located
south of Hwy. 5 and north of Coulter Boulevard at Stone Creek Drive on 27.3 acres, Bluff
Creek Corporate Center.
NEW BUSINESS
3. Review Park Plans for Bandimere Community Park and City Center Park.
OLD BUSINESS
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
ONGOING ITEMS
OPEN DISCUSSION
4. "Old Town"Neighborhood Plan.
ADJOURNMENT
NOTE: Planning Commission meetings are scheduled to end by 10:30 p.m.as outlined in official by-laws. We will make
every attempt to complete the hearing for each item on the agenda. lf,however,this does not appear to be possible,the Chair
person will notify those present and offer rescheduling options. Items thus pulled from consideration will be listed first on the
agenda at the next Commission meeting.
P.C. DATE: 4-1-98
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I CASE: 95-18 Site Plan
95-18 SUB.95-4 VAC
BY: Al-Jaff:v
STAFF REPORT
PROPOSAL: 1) Site Plan Review for the construction of two office buildings with an area of
12,727 square feet and 15,005 square feet
2) Preliminary Plat to Subdivide 3.46 acres into 2 Lots, Chanhassen East
Z Business Center Third Addition
0 LOCATION: South of Highway 5, West of Dell Road, and North of Lake Drive East.
0 APPLICANT : CSM Investors, Inc.
CL 2575 University Ave. W. Suite 150
a St. Paul, MN 55114-1024
646-1717
PRESENT ZONING: IOP, Industrial Office Park
ACREAGE: 3.46 acres
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AND LAND USE: N-Highway 5
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E -CSM Phase 11
W-Abra/Highway Business
QSEWER AND WATER: Services are available to the site.
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PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
There are two actions being requested with this application,a subdivision and a site plan review
for two office buildings. The site is zoned IOP, Industrial Office Park and bordered by Highway
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5 to the north, CSM Phase II office warehouse buildings, and Lake Drive East to the south. The lot
area of the office/warehouse sites are 1.82 acres for the easterly lot (Lot 1) and 1.64 acres for the
westerly lot(Lot 2). The site is visible directly from Highway 5 and has full access from Lake
Drive East.
The subdivision request consists of subdividing 3.46 acres into two lots. Lots 1 and 2 will
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contain the proposed office buildings. The subdivision request is a relatively straightforward
action.
The site plan is for the two office warehouse buildings. The buildings (referred to as Buildings A
and B) are well designed. Though similar in design and materials, they vary in color and overall
facade design. Both buildings are proposed to utilize shades of face brick on all four sides.
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Decorative pre-colored rockface block will be integrated into the walls, accented by pre-colored
masonry bands. A pitched roof element is proposed above each building. This is the identical
— element found on buildings Phase I, II, and III. Staff addressed this issue with the applicant and
was informed that other alternatives will be investigated such as creating a more pronounced
entrance with a pitched element. This could result in a better design alternative. At the time of
writing this report, we had not seen final design drawings on the canopy, however, the applicant
will be presenting revised plans at the meeting.
— The buildings are office buildings with no proposed loading dock. Parking is proposed along the
east west and south of the proposed buildings. These spaces are screened by a 3 to 4 foot height
berm. Highway 5 has an elevation of 936 along the west end of the site and slopes down as it
— continues east bound. The westerly portion of the berm will not provide adequate screening of
the parking lot along Highway 5. Staff recommends the berm be increased a minimum of 2 feet
in height along the northwest corner of the site. Plantings are being used in strategic locations
— along the berm and highway to maximize screening of the parking lot, however, until these trees
mature, the parking lot will be visible.
This area is in the highway corridor which uses the underlying district for setbacks. The parking
as proposed including the screening meets the Highway 5 zoning district requirements once the
height of the berm is increased. These buildings will require 125 parking spaces. The spaces
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were designed surrounding the buildings. They are broken by landscape islands and screened
from views from Highway 5 and Lake Drive East by berms and vegetation. There is a maximum
of two rows of parking at any given location.
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The site landscaping is generally of high quality,however, species selection differs from the
original planting schedule used for the first three CSM buildings in that the variety has been
reduced. To have continuity between the phases,repetition of some of the boulevard plantings
along Lake Drive could be done. Staff recommends the applicant use the planting schedule from
the approved landscape of previous phases to select some species to repeat in current plan.
Staff regards the project as a reasonable use of the land. The overall design is sensitive to the
Highway 5 corridor's image. Based upon the foregoing, staff is recommending approval of the
site plan, without variances, and the subdivision request,with conditions outlined in the staff
report.
BACKGROUND
On September 9, 1996,the City Council approved Site Plan Review#95-18 for CSM Phase II to
construct 2 office warehouse buildings. The proposal also included approval of Subdivision #95-
18 which divided 7.65 acres into 2 lots. Lot 1 contains a building while Lot 2 is vacant. The _
applicant wishes to divide Lot 2 into two lots and build two smaller office buildings rather than
one large office warehouse building, which is the proposal before you. As a condition of site
plan approval,the applicant will be required to officially withdraw his site plan approval for
Building 2 of Phase II for Chanhassen East Business Center 2nd Addition.
GENERAL SITE PLAN/ARCHITECTURE
The proposed office buildings, with an area of 12,727 square feet and 15,005 square feet, will be
situated parallel to and south of Highway 5. The site is bordered by Highway 5 to the north, and
Lake Drive East to the south. Access to the buildings is proposed from Lake Drive East. Parking
will be located along the east, west and south sides of the buildings. A meandering berm with
landscaping, 2 to 4 feet in height, is proposed to be installed along the perimeter of the site to
provide screening. This berm must be increased in height to a minimum of 4 feet to maximize
screening of the parking lot from Highway 5.
The buildings are located 30 feet from the north, 110 feet from the east, 68 feet from the south,
and 115 feet from the west property line.
Materials used on the both buildings are face brick on all four sides of both buildings.
Decorative pre-colored rockface block will be integrated into the walls,accented by pre-colored
masonry bands. A pre-colored pitched roof element is proposed on each building, which is
identical to that found on the CSM buildings Phase I and II. The applicant is proposing to
change the color of face brick of the two new buildings by using two new colors. The design
should be taken a step farther with a different pitched element that is compatible with the first
two phases, yet have its own character. The applicant suggested a pitched element over the
entrances into the buildings. This could be a reasonable solution,however, at the time of writing _
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this report, revised plans were not available. Revised architectural elevations will be presented at
the Planning Commission meeting. The building's architecture is tastefully designed and meets
the standards of the site plan ordinance requirements. The different colors and materials give the
building the desired visual appeal. As mentioned earlier, two new colors are being introduced to
break up the continues wall created by the first two phases.
This development falls within the Highway Corridor Overlay and must comply with the district's
design standards in addition to the Industrial Office Park Standards. The purpose of the overlay
district is to promote high-quality architectural and site design through improved development
standards within the corridor. The design standards should create a unified, harmonious and high
quality visual environment. The plan and design of the proposed development meets the intent
of the overlay district with the following features:
• The buildings will be one story and the architectural style is unique to the building but
will fit in. The buildings will provide a variation in style through the use of brick, block,
glass, and pitched roof elements. The buildings are utilizing exterior materials that are
durable and of high quality. Samples of the materials will be available at the meeting.
• The site slopes easterly and grading of the site is required. The landscaping plan provides
_ a variety of plant materials that are massed where possible,particularly along Highway 5.
The berms and landscaping materials will be continuous along the perimeter of the site.
The plant materials are repetitious in some locations and variable in others. Proposed
plant materials are indigenous to Minnesota. A curb is required along the perimeter of
the green space area. All planting areas are adequate in size to allow trees to grow. The
berm along Highway 5 will need to be increased in height.
• A parking lot light plan is required. The plan should incorporate the light style and
height. A detailed sign plan which include the lighting method has not been submitted.
However, the same sign criteria that governs CSM Phases I and II will be applied to
Phase III. Facade signage will be raised backlit letters, within a consistent band above the
face brick entries. All signage will be uniform color with letters at maximum of 2 feet
and logos at a maximum of 30 inches.
• The site plan shows a trash enclosure located between the two sites. The materials are
similar to those used on the exterior of the building. Shrubs are proposed along the south
side of the trash enclosure. This treatment must be repeated along the north portion of the
trash enclosure. Current state statutes require that recycling space be provided for all new
buildings. The area of the recycling space must be dedicated at the rate specified in
Minnesota State Building Code (MSBC) 1300.4700 Subp. 5. The applicant should
demonstrate the required area will be provided in addition to the space required for other
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solid waste collection space. Recycling space and other solid waste collection space
should be contained within the same enclosure.
SITE PLAN FINDINGS _
In evaluating a site plan and building plan, the city shall consider the development's compliance
with the following: _
(1) Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides,
including the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may
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be adopted;
(2) Consistency with this division; _.
(3) Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing
tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the —
general appearance of the neighboring developed or developing areas;
(4) Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5) Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with
special attention to the following:
a. An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and
provision of a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general
community; —
b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
c. Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of
the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and
neighboring structures and uses; and
d. Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives
and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public
streets, width of interior drives and access points, general interior
circulation, separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement _
and amount of parking.
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(6) Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision
for surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers,preservation of views, light
— and air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations
which may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
— Finding: The proposed development is consistent with the City's Highway 5 corridor
design requirements, the comprehensive plan, the zoning ordinance, and the site plan
review requirements. The site design is compatible with the surrounding development. It
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is functional and harmonious with the approved development for this area.
WETLANDS
A wetland delineation report was prepared by John Anderson with wetlands data as part of the
first phase of this project. The applicant has indicated on the plan sheet that no wetlands exist on
this site. These findings have been reviewed and confirmed by both city staff and a Technical
Evaluation Panel.
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GRADING AND DRAINAGE
Overall,the site has been rough graded. The City approved a grading permit last year. The
grading plan proposes minimal grading in order to prepare the site for the building and parking
lot facilities. Landscaped berms are proposed along Trunk Highway 5 and Lake Drive East.
The site is designed to drain via storm sewer to the southeast where the storm water will
discharge into the existing storm drainage system in Lake Drive East. As a part of Phase I, the
applicant constructed a regional storm water pond on the southwest corner of Lake Drive East
and Dell Road. The storm water from this development will be conveyed via storm water pipes
in Lake Drive East to the regional pond for pretreatment prior to discharging into Eden Prairie.
Storm drainage calculations for the storm sewer have already been submitted to the City with the
previous plat.
EROSION CONTROL
Erosion control measures and site restoration are proposed in accordance with the City's Best
Management Practice Handbook(BMPH). The grading plan incorporates erosion control fence
(Type I)around the perimeter of the grading limits. Most of the erosion control fence has already
been installed. Rock construction entrances are proposed at the access points. Erosion control
measures shall be maintained until the parking lot areas have been paved with a bituminous
surface and the site restored with sod, seed and landscaping. Hay bales and/or rock dikes are
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proposed to be installed around all catch basins and shall be maintained until the parking lots
have been paved.
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UTILITIES
Individual sewer and water services will be extended through the lots from Lake Drive East. A
cross access agreement will need to be prepared to extend utility service to the west lot from the
east lot. All utilities installed outside the City's drainage and utility easements or right-of-way
shall be considered private and not maintained by the City. These utilities will be inspected by
the City's Building Department. The applicant and/or contractor shall be responsible for
obtaining the appropriate permits from the City's Building Department. The final construction
plans shall be prepared in accordance with the City of Chanhassen's latest edition of Standard
Specifications and Detail Plates and/or state plumbing codes. Since this development is not
installing any public improvements it is not necessary for the applicant to enter into a
development contract with the City; however, staff does recommend that a site plan agreement be
prepared. —
STREETS/PARKING/INTERIOR CIRCULATION
The site is proposed to be accessed from two driveway access points off Lake Drive East. The
easterly access drive is proposed to be shared with the site to the east(Phase I). A cross-access
and maintenance agreement will need to be recorded against the parcel. —
In conjunction with Phase I of this development, a traffic study was prepared for the intersection
of Lake Drive East and Dell Road. The traffic study revealed acceptable levels of service
through Phase I of the development and eventually a level of service"B" for the forecast year
2005, assuming a signalized intersection. Based on the traffic study, it appears a traffic signal
may be required in the future at Lake Drive East and Dell Road. The developer shall be
responsible for a share of the local cost participation of this traffic signal on a percentage basis
based upon traffic generation from full development of this site in relation to the total traffic
volume of Dell Road. A condition will be placed in the site plan permit accordingly.
A 6-foot wide concrete sidewalk exists along the north side of Lake Drive East. In conjunction
with the proposed driveway curb cuts,pedestrian ramps will need to be constructed at all access
points. The driveway access points along Lake Drive East shall be constructed in accordance
with the City's Industrial Driveway Detail Plate No. 5207. _
The City's parking ordinance for office warehouse buildings requires a total of 125 spaces for
both buildings combined. The applicant is providing 129 spaces.
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The Minnesota State Building Code(MSBC)requires that accessible parking spaces be provided
at the rate of one accessible space per every 25 spaces in the lot(s). This calculates out to 5
spaces. The submitted site plan includes eight accessible parking spaces.
MISCELLANEOUS
The preliminary plat proposes replatting a portion of Phase II. The final plat name shall be
changed to Chanhassen East Business Center 3rd Addition(Lots 1 and 2, Block 1). There is an
existing site plan agreement that needs to be amended to relate to this proposal.
LANDSCAPING
The landscaping plan submitted by the applicant is providing a total of 104 trees; 29 overstory,
46 ornamental, and 29 evergreen trees. Species selection differs from the original planting
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schedule used for the first three CSM buildings in that the variety has been reduced. To have
continuity between the phases,repetition of some of the boulevard plantings along Lake Drive
could be done. Staff recommends the applicant use the planting schedule from the approved
landscape plan from previous phases to select some species to repeat in current plan.
Ism The applicant meets the minimum requirements for parking and buffer yard landscaping.
However,buffer yard landscaping along Hwy. 5 requires the use of shrubs and the applicant has
not proposed any in that area. In reviewing the landscape plan for CSM 1-3, staff noted that
shrubs were not used there either. Berms were installed as a means of screening the parking and
are also being used in this development as well. Visibility from Highway 5 into the parking lots
of the first phases is still an issue, and therefore staff recommends shrubs be added to the
landscaping along the highway. To their credit, applicant has used evergreens in strategic
locations to avoid direct views of any parking areas.
Parking lot island widths appear to be less than the minimum 10' required by ordinance. Staff
recommends all islands be revised to measure a minimum of 10' in width or aeration tubes must
be installed.
REFUSE COLLECTION
The site plan shows a trash enclosure located between the two sites. The materials are similar to
those used on the exterior of the building. Shrubs are proposed along the south side of the trash
enclosure. This treatment must be repeated along the north portion of the trash enclosure.
Current state statutes require that recycling space be provided for all new buildings. The area of
the recycling space must be dedicated at the rate specified in Minnesota State Building Code
(MSBC) 1300.4700 Subp. 5. The applicant should demonstrate the required area will be
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provided in addition to the space required for other solid waste collection space. Recycling space
and other solid waste collection space should be contained within the same enclosure.
LIGHTING
Lighting locations for the parking lot are illustrated on the plans. Only shielded fixtures are
allowed and the applicant shall demonstrate that there is no more than 1/2 foot candles of light at
the property line as required by ordinance. A detailed lighting plan should be submitted when
building permits are requested. Accent lights are located above entry ways into the buildings.
Street lights consistent with Lake Drive East will be at 200 feet intervals, staggered from one side
to the other.
SIGNAGE
The applicant has not submitted a signage plan. One ground low profile business sign is
permitted per lot. The area of the sign may not exceed 80 square feet and a height of 8 feet. —
Also, one wall mounted sign per business shall be permitted per street frontage. The total display
area shall not exceed 15%of the total area of the building wall upon which the signs are —
mounted. No sign may exceed 90 square feet. Staff is recommending the same criteria be
followed as Phases I and II.
Sign Criteria:
1. All businesses within a single building shall share one monument sign. One
monument sign per lot. Monument signage shall be subject to the monument
standards in the sign ordinance.
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2. Wall signs are permitted on no more that 2 street frontages. The letters shall be
located within a designated sign band.
3. All signs require a separate permit.
4. The signage will have consistency throughout the development and add an
architectural accent to the building.
5. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size, materials, and heights.
6. No illuminated signs within the development may be viewed from the residential
section south and west of the site.
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7. Back-lit individual letter signs are permitted.
8. Individual letters may not exceed 2 feet and logos may not exceed 30 inches in
height.
9. Only the name and logo of the business occupying the unit will be permitted on
the sign.
The applicant must obtain a sign permit prior to erecting the signs on site. One stop sign must be
posted on the driveway at the exit point of both sites. A detailed sign plan incorporating the
method of lighting, acceptable to staff should be provided prior to requesting a building permit.
COMPLIANCE TABLE - IOP DISTRICT
Ordinance Building A Building B
Building Height 2 stories 1 story 1 story
Building Setback N-30' E-10' N-30' E-110' N-30' E-75'
S-30' W-10' S-68' W-75' S-68' W-115'
Parking stalls 81 & 57 stalls 75 stalls 54 stalls*
Parking Setback N-25' E-25' N-45' E-NA' N-45' E-NA
S-25' W-10' S-40 W-NA S-40' W-10'
Hard surface 70% 63.2% 53%
Coverage
Lot Area 1 acre 1.82 acres 1.64 acres
* The parking ordinance requires 4.5 parking spaces per 1000 square feet of office area.
Building B is deficient 3 spaces while Building A has 6 additional spaces. These parcels
will be under single ownership and parking will be shared. To ensure compliance with
the ordinance, a cross parking agreement will be required and recorded against the
property.
PARK AND TRAIL DEDICATION FEES
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The City is requiring that park and trails fees be submitted in lieu of park land. Fees are to be
paid in accordance to city ordinance. One third of the fees will be required at the time of final —
plat recording.
SUBDIVISION
The preliminary plat proposes replatting 3.46 acres (Lot 2, Block 1, Chanhassen East Business —
Center Second Addition) into two lots referred to as the east and west lots. The legal description
shall be Lots 1 and 2, Block 1, Chanhassen East Business Center 3rd Addition. The ordinance
requires a minimum area of 1 acre for industrial lots. These lots will have areas of 1.82 acres and
1.64 acres, which exceeds ordinance requirements. The subdivision request is a relatively
straightforward action. Standard drainage and utility easements around the perimeter of all lots
are illustrated on the plat. —
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
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Staff recommends that Planning Commission adopt the following motion:
I. SITE PLAN REVIEW —
"The Planning Commission recommends approval of Site Plan Review #95-18 for CSM Phase
III, as shown on the site plan received March 2, 1998, subject to the following conditions: —
1. Planting schedule shall be revised to reflect use of some of the Lake Drive boulevard tree
species used in the landscape plan for previous CSM phases. —
2. The applicant shall revise the landscape plan to include shrubs in buffer yard plantings
along Highway 5. —
3. Parking lot islands shall be a minimum of 10' in width. If the applicant does not increase
the width, aeration tubes shall be installed.
4. Landscape materials used along the south of the trash enclosure shall be repeated along
the north portion of the structure.
5. Signage criteria: _
a. Each building shall share one monument sign. One monument sign per lot.
Monument signage shall be subject to the monument standards in the sign —
ordinance.
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b. Wall signs are permitted on no more that 2 street frontages. The letters shall be
located within a designated sign band.
c. All signs require a separate permit.
— d. The signage will have consistency throughout the development and add an
architectural accent to the building.
— e. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size, materials, and heights.
f. No illuminated signs within the development may be viewed from the residential
— section south and west of the site.
g. Back-lit individual letter signs are permitted.
h. Individual letters may not exceed 2 feet and logos may not exceed 30 inches in
height.
i. Only the name and logo of the business occupying the unit will be permitted on
the sign.
j. The applicant must obtain a sign permit prior to erecting the signs on site. A
detailed sign plan incorporating the method of lighting, acceptable to staff should
be provided prior to requesting a sign permit.
— k. One stop sign must be posted on the driveway at the exit point of both sites.
6. The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the city and provide the
— necessary financial securities as required for landscaping.
7. Fire Marshal conditions:
a. "No parking fire lane" signs and yellow curbing shall be provided. Contact
Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing to be painted.
b. The proposed fire hydrant between Building A and Building B must be relocated
to the south. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location.
c. Post Indicator Valves will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for
exact location.
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d. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention policy regarding
premise identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention —
Policy#29-1992. (Copy Enclosed.)
e. Submit radius turn dimensions to City Engineer and Chanhassen Fire Marshal for —
review and approval.
f. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention policy regarding fire
department notes to be included on all site plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Policy#04-1991. (Copy Enclosed.)
g. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention policy regarding pre-
fire plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#07- —
1991.
h. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/City of Chanhassen Policy regarding —
water service installation for commercial and industrial buildings. Pursuant to
Inspection Division Water Service Installation Policy #34-1993. (Copy
Enclosed.) —
i. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy regarding
maximum allowed size of domestic water service on a combination domestic fire —
supply line. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#36-
1994.
j. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy regarding fire
hydrant installation. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Policy#47-1998. (Copy Enclosed.) —
k. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy regarding fire
department witnessing flushing of underground mains which come in to the
building for fire suppression systems. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Policy#40-1995.
8. Concurrent with the building permit, a detailed lighting plan meeting city standards shall
be submitted. —
9. Revise plans to introduce a different pitched element on the buildings.
10. All roof top equipment must be screened in accordance with city ordinances.
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11. Enter into a cross parking/access agreements.
— 12. The applicant shall officially withdraw the site plan for CSM Phase II Building 2.
13. Meet with the Building Official to discuss building plans."
II. SUBDIVISION
— "The Planning Commission recommends the City Council approve the preliminary plat for
Subdivision #95-18 for Chanhassen East Business Center Third Addition as shown on the plat
received March 2, 1998, with the following conditions:
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1. Park and trail dedication fees to be collected per city ordinance.
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2. The name of the subdivision shall be changed to Chanhassen East Business Center Third
Addition, and the lots shall be described as Lots 1 and 2, Block 1.
3. The appropriate drainage and utility easements should be dedicated on the final plat for all
utilities.
4. The applicant shall dedicate a cross-access/parking easements over the two lots. The
applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the City and provide the necessary
— financial security to guarantee compliance with the permit.
5. The installation of traffic signals at the intersection of Lake Drive East and Dell Road is
— expected in the future. The developer shall be responsible for a share of the local cost
participation of this signal on a percentage basis based upon traffic generation from full
development of this site in relation to the total traffic volume on Dell Road. The
— developer and/or property owner shall waive any and all procedural and substantive
objections to the special assessment, including,but not limited to, hearing requirements
or any claim that the assessment exceeds the benefit to the property.
6. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored with
seed and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of completion of
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each activity in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook. All
catch basins shall be protected with silt fence or hay bales until the parking lot is paved.
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7. The appropriate front,rear and sideyard drainage and utility easements shall be dedicated on
the final plat.
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8. The applicant will be responsible for all boulevard restoration or damage to existing City
utilities or street improvements as a result of construction.
9. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies,
i.e. Watershed District, Metropolitan Council Waste Water Services,Minnesota Health
Department, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency and Minnesota Department of
Transportation and comply with their conditions of approval.
10. No berming or landscaping will be allowed within street right-of-way.
11. The installation of traffic signals at the intersection of Lake Drive East and Dell Road is
expected in the future. The developer shall be responsible for a share of the local cost
participation of this signal on a percentage basis based upon traffic generation from full r.
development of this site in relation to the total traffic volume on Dell Road. The
developer and/or property owner shall waive any and all procedural and substantive
objections to the special assessment, including,but not limited to, hearing requirements
or any claim that the assessment exceeds the benefit to the property.
8. The final construction plans and specifications for the site utility improvements shall be
designed and constructed in accordance with the City's latest edition of Standard
Specifications and Detail Plates and/or state plumbing codes.
9. A cross access and maintenance agreement shall be executed over the easterly lot to
permit utility extension and street access to the westerly lot.
10. All driveway access points along Lake Drive East shall be constructed in accordance with
the City's Industrial Driveway Detail Plate No. 5207.
ATTACHMENTS
1. Memo from Dave Hempel, Assistant City Engineer,dated March 25, 1998.
2. Memo from Mark Littfin,Fire Marshal dated August 14, 1996.
3. Application.
4. Public hearing notice and property owners.
5. Reductions.
6 . Plans received March 25, 1998. _
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CITY OF MEMORANDUM
CHANHASSEN TO: Sharmin Al-Jaff,Planner II
190 City Center Drive,PO Box 147 FROM: David Hempel,Assistant City Engineer
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317 DATE: March 25, 1998
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Phone 612.937.1900
General Far 612.937.5739 SUBJ: Preliminary Plat Review of Chanhassen East Business Center 3rd Addition
Engineering Fax 6129379152 Land Use Review File No.98-7
`public Safety Fax 612.934.2524
VCb wuwci.chanhassen.nnl.us
Upon review of the plans prepared by Westwood Engineering dated February 2, 1998, I offer
the following comments and recommendations:
GRADING AND DRAINAGE
Overall,the site has been rough graded. The City approved a grading permit last year. The
grading plan proposes minimal grading in order to prepare the site for the building and parking
lot facilities. Landscaped berms are proposed along Trunk Highway 5 and Lake Drive East.
The site is designed to drain via storm sewer to the southeast where the stone water will
discharge into the existing storm drainage system in Lake Drive East. As a part of Phase I,the
applicant constructed a regional storm water pond on the southwest corner of Lake Drive East
and Dell Road. The storm water from this development will be conveyed via storm water
pipes in Lake Drive East to the regional pond for pretreatment prior to discharging into Eden
Prairie.
_ Storm drainage calculations for the storm sewer have already been submitted to the City with
the previous plat.
EROSION CONTROL
Erosion control measures and site restoration are proposed in accordance with the City's Best
Management Practice Handbook(BMPH). The grading plan incorporates erosion control
fence(Type I)around the perimeter of the grading limits. Most of the erosion control fence
has already been installed. Rock construction entrances are proposed at the access points.
Erosion control measures shall be maintained until the parking lot areas have been paved with
a bituminous surface and the site restored with sod,seed and landscaping. Hay bales and/or
rock dikes are proposed to be installed around all catch basins and shall be maintained until the
parking lots have been paved.
UTILITIES
Individual sewer and water services will be extended through the lots from Lake Drive East. A
cross access agreement will need to be prepared to extend utility service to the west lot from
the east lot. All utilities installed outside the City's drainage and utility easements or right-of-
way shall be considered private and not maintained by the City. These utilities will be
inspected by the City's Building Department. The applicant and/or contractor shall be
_he City of Chanhassen.A growing community with clean lakes,polio,schools,a rimming downtown,thriving businesses,and beautiful parks.A great place to lire,work,and play.
Sharmin Al-Jaff
March 25, 1998
Page 2 —
responsible for obtaining the appropriate permits from the City's Building Department. The
final construction plans shall be prepared in accordance with the City of Chanhassen's latest —
edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates and/or state plumbing codes. Since this
development is not installing any public improvements it is not necessary for the applicant to
enter into a development contract with the City;however,staff does recommend that a site plan —
agreement be prepared.
STREETS/PARKING/INTERIOR CIRCULATION —
The site is proposed to be accessed from two driveway access points off Lake Drive East. The
easterly access drive is proposed to be shared with the site to the east (Phase I). A cross- _
access and maintenance agreement will need to be recorded against the parcel.
In conjunction with Phase I of this development,a traffic study was prepared for the
intersection of Lake Drive East and Dell Road. The traffic study revealed acceptable levels of
service through Phase I of the development and eventually a level of service"B"for the
forecast year 2(X)5,assuming a signalized intersection. Based on the traffic study, it appears a —
traffic signal may be required in the future at Lake Drive East and Dell Road. The developer
shall be responsible for a share of the local cost participation of this traffic signal on a
percentage basis based upon traffic generation from full development of this site in relation to
the total traffic volume of Dell Road. A condition will be placed in the site plan permit
accordingly.
A 6-foot wide concrete sidewalk exists along the north side of Lake Drive East. In conjunction
with the proposed driveway curb cuts,pedestrian ramps will need to be constructed at all
access points. The driveway access points along Lake Drive East shall be constructed in
accordance with the City's Industrial Driveway Detail Plate No. 5207.
MISCELLANEOUS
The preliminary plat proposes replatting a portion of Phase II. The final plat name shall be
changed to Chanhassen East Business Center 3rd Addition(Lots 1 and 2,Block 1). There is
an existing site plan agreement that needs to be amended to relate to this proposal.
RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. The name of the subdivision shall be changed to Chanhassen East Business Center
Third Addition(Lots 1 and 2,Block 1).
2. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored
with seed and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of
completion of each activity in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice
Handbook. All catch basins shall be protected with silt fence or hay bales until the
parking lot is paved.
Sharmin Al-Jaff
March 25, 1998
Page 3
3. The appropriate front, rear and sidcyard drainage and utility casements shall be dedicated
on the final plat.
4. The applicant will be responsible for all boulevard restoration or damage to existing
City utilities or street improvements as a result of construction.
5. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory
agencies,i.e. Watershed District, Metropolitan Council Waste Water Services,
_ Minnesota Health Department, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency and Minnesota
Department of Transportation and comply with their conditions of approval.
6. No bcrming or landscaping will be allowed within street right-of-way.
7. The installation of traffic signals at the intersection of Lake Drive East and Dell Road
is expected in the future. The developer shall be responsible for a share of the local
cost participation of this signal on a percentage basis based upon traffic generation
from full development of this site in relation to the total traffic volume on Dell Road.
The developer and/or property owner shall waive any and all procedural and
substantive objections to the special assessment, including,but not limited to,hearing
requirements or any claim that the assessment exceeds the benefit to the property.
8. The final construction plans and specifications for the site utility improvements shall
be designed and constructed in accordance with the City's latest edition of Standard
Specifications and Detail Plates and/or state plumbing codes.
9. A cross access and maintenance agreement shall be executed over the easterly lot to
permit utility extension and street access to the westerly lot.
10. All driveway access points along Lake Drive East shall be constructed in accordance
with the City's Industrial Driveway Detail Plate No. 5207.
jms
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN -
690 City Center Drive,PO Box 147
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317 MEMORANDUM
Phone 612.937.1900
General Fax 612.937.5739 TO: Sharmin Al-Jaff, Planner II
Engineering Fax 612.937.9152 FROM: Mark Littfin,Fire Marshal
Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524
11eb www.ci.chanhassen.mn.us DATE: March 17, 1998
SUBJ: Preliminary Plat of Lot 2, block 1, Chanhassen East Business
Center 2"a Addition(3.46 acres) into two lots; site plan review —
of two buildings, 15005 and 12,727 square feet and vacation of
an existing drainage and utility easement on property zoned IOP
and located in the southwest corner of Dell Road and Highway
5, CSM Corporation, Chanhassen East Business Center Phase
III.
Planning Case 95-18 SUB,95-18 SPR, 95-4 VAC.
I have reviewed the site plan for the above project. In order to comply with the
Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division,I have the following fire
code or city ordinance/policy requirements. The site plan is based on the
available information submitted at this time. If additional plans or changes are
submitted, the appropriate code or policy items will be addressed.
1. "No parking fire lane"signs and yellow curbing shall be provided. Contact
Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of signs and curbing to be
painted. —
2. The proposed fire hydrant between Building A and Building B must be
relocated to the south. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location. —
3. Post Indicator Valves will be required. Contact Chanhassen Fire Marshal
for exact location. —
4. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention policy regarding
premise identification. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire —
Prevention Policy#29-1992. (Copy Enclosed.)
5. Submit radius turn dimensions to City Engineer and Chanhassen Fire —
Marshal for review and approval.
The City of Chanhassen.A growing community with clean lakes,quality schools,a charming downtown,thriving businesses,and beautiful parks.A great place to live, work,and pt
Sharmin Al-Jaff
March 17, 1998
Page 2
6. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention policy regarding
fire department notes to be included on all site plans. Pursuant to
Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#04-1991. (Copy
Enclosed.)
7. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention policy regarding
pre-fire plans. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Policy#07-1991.
8. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/City of Chanhassen Policy
regarding water service installation for commercial and industrial buildings.
Pursuant to Inspection Division Water Service Installation Policy#34-1993.
(Copy Enclosed.)
9. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy regarding
maximum allowed size of domestic water service on a combination domestic
fire supply line. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Policy#36-1994.
10. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy regarding
fire hydrant installation. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire
Prevention Policy#47-1998. (Copy Enclosed.)
11. Comply with Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy regarding
fire department witnessing flushing of underground mains which come in to
the building for fire suppression systems. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Policy#40-1995.
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WATER SERVICE INSTALLATION POLICY
FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS —
1) The Inspections Division shall be responsible for issuance of permits. No permit —
shall be issued until approval of plans have been obtained from the following:
a) Engineering Department —
b) Fire Marshal
c) Minnesota Department of Health —
d) Plumbing Inspector
2) Plumbing inspectors will do all installation inspections and witness the hydrostatic —
and conductivity tests.
Inspection and Test Requirements —
a) All pipe shall be inspected before being covered. Phone 937-1900.
ext. 31, to schedule inspections. A 24 hour notice is required. —
b) Conductivity test is required. The pipe shall be subjected to a minimum
350 amp test for a period of not less than 5 minutes.
c) Hydrostatic test required. All pipe shall be subjected to a hydrostatic —
pressure of 150 psi for 2 hours. Allowable pressure drop shall not exceed
1 PSI.
d) Pipe shall not be run under buildings - NFPA 24$-3.1. —
3) Upon approval of the hydro test, the plumbing inspector shall submit a copy of —
the inspection report to the utility superintendent. The inspection report shall note
whether the system is ready for main flush and drawing of water sample for the
bug test. —
Inspections Division
Water Service Installation
Policy #34-1993 —
Date: 04/15/93
Revised: 4/17/96
Page 1 of 2 —
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CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
- PREMISES IDENTIFICATION
General
Numbers or addresses shall be placed on all new and existing
buildings in such a position as to be plainly visible and legible
from the street or road fronting the property. Said numbers shall
contrast with their background. Size and location of numbers shall
— be approved by one of the following - Public Safety Director,
Building Official , Building inspector, Fire Marshal.
Requirements are for new construction and existing buildings where
no address numbers are posted.
Other Requirements-General
1. Numbers shall be a contrasting color from-the background.
2. Numbers shall not be In script
3. If a structure Is not visible from the street,additional numbers are required at the driveway entrance. Size
and location must be approved.
— 4. Numbers on mall box at driveway entrance may be a minimum of 4". However, requirement #3 must still
be met.
5. Administrative authority may require additional numbers if deemed necessary.
Residential Requirements(2 or less dwelling unit)
1. Minimum height shall be 5 114".
2. Building permits will not be flnaled unless numbers are posted and approved by the Building Department
Commercial Requirements .
1. Minimum height shall be 12".
2. Strip Malls
— a. Multi tenant building will have minimum height requirements of 6".
b. Address numbers shall be on the main entrance and on all back doors.
3. If address numbers are located on a dIrectory entry sign, additional numbers will be required on the
— buildings main entrance.
Chanhassen Fire Department
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Fire Prevention
Policy #29-1992
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Revised:
— Approved - Public Safty Director Page 1 of 1
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CITY OF _
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J 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT NOTES TO BE INCLUDED ON ALL SITE PLANS
1. Fire Marshal must witness the flushing of underground sprinkler service line, per
NFPA 13-8-2.1.
2. A final inspection by the Fire Marshal before a Certificate of Occupancy is issued.
3. Fire Department access roads shall be provided on site during all phases of
construction. The construction of these temporary roads will conform with the _
Chanhassen Fire Department requirements for temporary access roads at
construction sites. Details are available.
4. Onsite fire hydrants shall be provided and in operating condition during all phases
of construction.
5. The use of liquefied petroleum as shall be in conformance with NFPA Standard
58 and the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code. A list of these requirements is
available. (See policy #33-1993) —
6. All fire detection and fire suppression systems shall be monitored by an approved
UL central station with a UL 71 Certificate issued on these systems before final
occupancy is issued.
7. An 11" x 14" As Built shall be provided to the Fire Department. The As Built —
shall be reproducible and acceptable to the Fire Marshal. (See policy #07-1991).
8. An approved lock box shall be provided on the building for fire department use.
The lock box should be located by the Fire Department connection or as located
by the Fire Marshal.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #04-1991 _
Date: 11/22/91
Revised: 12/23/94
Page 1 of 2 _
9. High-piled combustible storage shall comply with the requirements of Article#81
of the Minnesota Uniform Fire Code. High-piled combustible storage is
combustible materials on closely packed piles more than 15' in height or
combustible materials on pallets or in racks more than 12' in height. For certain
special-hazard commodities such as rubber tires, plastics, some flammable liquids,
idle pallets, etc. the critical pile height may be as low as 6 feet.
10. Fire lane signage shall be provided as required by the Fire Marshal. (See policy
#06-1991).
11. Smoke detectors installed in lieu of 1 hour rated corridors under UBC section
3305G, Exception#5 shall comply with Chanhassen Fire Department requirements
for installation and system type. (See policy #05-1991).
12. Maximum allowed size of domestic water service on a combination domestic/fire
sprinkler supply line policy must be followed. (See policy #36-1994).
Chanhassen Fire Department
— Fire Prevention
Policy #04-1991
Date: 11/22/91
Revised: 12/23/94
Approved - Public Safety Director Page 2 of 2
CITY OF
\ CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT
POLICY REGARDING PRE-PLAN
Prior to issuing the C .O. , a pre-plan, site plan shall be submitted
to the Fire Department for approval . The following items shall be
shown on the plan.
2) Building footprint and building dimensions _
3) Fire lanes and width of fire lanes
4) Water mains and their sizes, indicate looped or dead end
5) Fire hydrant locations
6) P. I .V. - Fire Department connection
7 ) Gas meter (shut-off) , NSP (shut off)
8) Lock box location
9) Fire walls, if applicable
10) Roof vents, if applicable
11) Interior walls
12) Exterior doors -
13) Location of fire alarm panel
14) Sprinkler riser location
15) Exterior L. P. storage, if applicable
16) Haz . Mat . storage, if applicable
17) Underground storage tanks locations, if applicable
18) Type of construction walls/roof
19) Standpipes -
PLEASE NOTE: Plans with topographical information, contour lines,
easement lines, property lines, setbacks, right-of-way lines,
headings, and other related lines or markings, are not acceptable,
and will be rejected.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention
Policy #07-1991
Date: 01/16/91
'L. ,, , / Revised: 02/18/94
Approved - Pu.lic Safety Director Page 1 of 1
CITY OF
CHANHASSENt' 690 COULTER DRIVE • P.O. BOX 147 • CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY
FIRE HYDRANT INSTALLATION
The following items are procedures for installation, testing, and putting into service new or
relocated fire hydrants:
1. Immediately after installing or relocating a fire hydrant, it must be securely covered by the
contractor with a plastic bag to indicate it is "out of service". The plastic bag may only be
removed for testing of the fire hydrant by city employees.
2. Upon approval of all testing (hydro, bacteria, flush and conductivity) and city acceptance, the
Chanhassen Utility Department will open the gate valve, remove the plastic bag and flush the
hydrant.
**PLEASE NOTE: The Utility Department requires a 48 hour advance notice to schedule
turning on or off water lines and performing tests.
3. Only at this point will the hydrant be considered ready for Fire Department operation.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Hydrant Installation
Policy 447-1998
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Revised:
Approved - Public afety Director Page 1 of 1
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(612) 937-1900 • FAX (612) 937-5739 —
CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY —
FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS
1. Permits are required for all sprinkler work.
2. A minimum of four sets of plans are required. Send, or drop off plans and specifications and —
calculations to:
Mark Littfin,Fire Marshal —
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
Chanhassen,MN 55317 —
3. Yard post indicators are required and must have tamper protection.
4. All control values must be provided with tamper protection.
5. All systems tests must be witnessed by the Chanhassen Fire Marshal. Appointments can be —
made by calling the Fire Marshal at 937-1900, ext. 132, between 8:00 AM and 4:00 PM,
Monday through Friday. Please try to arrange tests at least 24 hours in advance. All revisions
of 25 heads or more will require a test.
6. Main drains& inspector test connections must be piped to the outside atmosphere. —
7. Water may not be introduced into sprinkler piping from the City main until the Fire Marshal
witnesses a flush test per NFPA 13-8-2.1. —
8. The City of Chanhassen has adopted Appendix E (see 1305.6905 appendix chapter 38 of the
MBC). —
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention Division _
Policy#40-1995
Date: 01/12/95
Revised: 03/12/97
Page 1 of 2
9. All systems must be designed to NFPA-13, 1991 edition and Chapter 6 Standards. All attic
systems are to be spaced at a maximum 130 square foot coverage. 3/4" plastic piping will not
be allowed at any time in attic space.
10. All equipment installed in a fire protection system shall be UL listed or factory mutual
approved for fire protection service.
11. Fire protection systems that are hydraulically calculated shall have a 5 psi safety factor at
maximum system flow.
12. Acceptable water supplies for fire sprinkler systems are listed in NFPA-13. 1991 ed., Chapter
7. Swimming pools and ponds are not acceptable primary water supplies.
13. Pressure and gravity tanks shall be sized per the requirements contained in NFPA-13 and 22.
Duration of the water supply shall match the hazard classification of the occupancy.
14. Include spec sheets for fire sprinkler heads-dry pipe/pre-action valving.
15. The definition of inspection is contained in MN Rule 7512.0100 Subpart 10, and states that
inspection means:
1. Conducting a final acceptance test.
2. Trip test of dry pipe,deluge or preaction valves.
3. A test that an authority having jurisdiction requires to be conducted under the
supervision of a contractor. Only licensed fire protection contractors are
permitted to conduct these tests.
•- 4. All other inspections including the inspectors test, main drain and other valves
are permitted under MN Rule 7512.0400 Subpart-2G,as maintenance activities
and do not require a license as a fire protection contractor.
16. Per Section 904.3.2.and the 1994 Uniform Building Code,an approved audible sprinkler flow
alarm to alert the occupants shall be provided in the interior of the building in a normally
occupied location. (Location must be approved by the Chanhassen Fire Marshal).
17. In existing systems,the following shall apply:
1. If any changes in the hydraulically most demanding area,or an addition of 25 or more
heads, hydraulic calculations will need to be provided.
2. If an addition or change of 25 or more heads to a system,a test will need to be
completed.
18. Fire Department connections(FDC)must be provided with brass screw on caps.
Chanhassen Fire Department
Fire Prevention Division
Policy#40-1995
Date: 01/12/95
Revised: 03/25/97
Approved-Public Safety Director Page: 2 of 2
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CHANHASSEN FIRE DEPARTMENT POLICY —
MAXIMUM ALLOWED SIZE OF DOMESTIC WATER SERVICE ON A
COMBINATION DOMESTIC/FIRE SPRINKLER SUPPLY LINE —
—
1. Domestic water line shall not be greater than 1/4 pipe size of the
combination service water supply line.
2. 1 1/2"domestic off 6"line.
3. 2"domestic off 8"line. —
4. 2 1/2 domestic off 10" line.
Option 1: Domestic sizes may be increased if it can be calculated hydraulically that the
demand by all domestic fixtures will not drop the fire sprinkler water below its
minimum gallonage required. —
Option 2: Combination domestic and five line service shall have an electric solenoid valve
installed on the domestic side of the service. This valve shall be normally
powered open and close on loss of electric power or signal from the system
water flow indicator. _
Must be approved by the Chanhassen Fire Marshal and Chanhassen
Mechanical Inspector. —
Chanhassen Fire Department
Water Line Sizing
Policy#36-1994 —
"] Date: 06/10/94
CL / Revised:
Approved - Public Safety Director Page 1 of 1 —
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
(612) 937-1900
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION
— APPLICANT: CSrr1 Cn�f'c AT;o. OWNER:
ADDRESS: 2_4)J7 VIPVti7-61T'r A\'(c Lj 41Co ADDRESS:
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Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Temporary Sales Permit
Conditional Use Permit Vacation of ROW/Easements
Interim Use Permit Variance
Non-conforming Use Permit Wetland Alteration Permit
— Planned Unit Development* Zoning Appeal
Rezoning Zoning Ordinance Amendment
Sign Permits
Sign Plan Review 2 Notification Sign
Site Plan Review' X Escrow for Filing Fees/Attorney Cost**
($50 CUP/SPRNACNAR/WAP/Metes
and Bounds, $400 Minor SUB)
— Subdivision' TOTAL FEE$ c9L,
A list of all property owners within 500 feet of the boundaries of the property must be included with the
application.
Building material samples must be submitted with site plan reviews.
`Twenty-six full size folded copies of the plans must be submitted, including an 81/2" X 11" reduced copy of
transparency for each plan sheet.
** Escrow will be required for other applications through the development contract
NOTE-When multiple applications are processed, the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application.
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NOTICE: You are invited to attend a public hearing about a proposal in your area. The
applicant, CSM Corporation, is requesting preliminary plat of Lot 2, Block 1, Chanhassen East
Business Center Second Addition (3.46 acres) into 2 lots; site plan review of two buildings
(15,005 sq. ft. and 12,727 sq. ft.) and vacation of existing drainage and utility easements on
property zoned IOP and located in the southwest corner of Dell Road and Hwy. 5, CSM
Corporation, Chanhassen East Business Center Phase III.
What Happens at the Meeting: The purpose of this public hearing is to inform you about the
developer's request and to obtain input from the neighborhood about this project. During the
meeting, the Commission Chair will lead the public hearing through the following steps:
1 . Staff will give an overview of the proposed project.
2. The Developer will present plans on the project.
3. Comments are received from the public.
4. Public hearing is closed and the Commission discusses project. The commission will then
make a recommendation to the City Council.
Questions and Comments: If you want to see the plans before the meeting, please stop by City
Hall during office hours, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. If you wish to talk to
someone about this project, please contact Sharmin at 937-1900 ext. 120. If you choose to
submit written comments, it is helpful to have one copy to the department in advance of the meeting.
Staff will provide copies to the Commission.
Notice of this public hearing has been published in the Chanhassen Villager on March 19, 1998.
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Monday, March 16, 1998
To City of Chanhassen Attention: Sharmin Al-Jaff
690 Coultier Drive Re:Chanhassen East Business Center III
Chanhassen, MN 55317 Chanhassen, MN
We are sending you X Attached Under separate cover the following items: MAR 1 7 1998
Shop drawings Prints Plans Samples Specifications
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PROPOSAL: Request for Preliminary PUD approval for an office-industrial project including a
church/institutional use,request for preliminary plat approval to create five lots, two
L outlots, and associated right-of-way, request for a wetland alteration pennit to fill a
z small wetland on site, and a conditional use permit to excavate, fill, and grade
within a flood plain, Bluff Creek Corporate Center
0 LOCATION: South of Hwy. 5 and north of Coulter Boulevard at Stone Creek Drive
ahAPPLICANT: Land Group,
Inc. and Bluff Creek Partners
123 North Third Street
Minneapolis, MN 55401
333-2244
PRESENT ZONING: A2, Agricultural Estate District
ACREAGE: 27.3 acres
ADJACENT ZONING
_ AND LAND USE: N- PUD-R, Walnut Grove and Highway 5
S-PUD-R, Townhomes at Creekside and Coulter Blvd.
E - A2,vacant
W-OI, Bluff Creek Elementary and Chanhassen Recreation Center
QWATER AND SEWER: Available to the site
PHYSICAL CHARACTER: The site contains rolling topography with a high point in the east-central
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Coulter Boulevard. An electric transmission corridor bisects the site running from the north to the south.
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April 1, 1998
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PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
The applicant is proposing a PUD for Bluff Creek Corporate Center,an office-industrial project
which would permit a church/institutional use. The issues that need to be addressed as part of the
review include the institutional use for the site,the benefits to the community of permitting a PUD,
and the implementation of the Bluff Creek Corridor preservation and restoration. As part of the
applicant's submittal,they are also requesting that the city permit banks and restaurants within the
project. Staff believes that the restaurant use if incorporated only as part of a hotel facility.
Individual users could provide cafeterias for their employees. Bank facilities appear to be totally
out of the character for this area as an industrial park,and are therefore not recommended.
The applicant has revised the plat plan to shift Stone Creek Drive to the west to accommodate
additional parking adjacent to the office/industrial buildings.
Staff advised the applicant early in the process that we could support the inclusion of a church
facility in the project if there was some benefits to the development and the community at large.
Specifically, staff envisioned that the church would provide shared parking that would permit the
development of the office and industrial use with greater building square footages than would be
possible based on their individual sites. Staff estimates that the church use displaces approximately
�. 60,000 square feet of office industrial uses. Based on the use ratio proposed by the developer,this
corresponds to approximately 160 parking stalls. Staff recommends that the church commit to
provide this amount of parking for the industrial office users of the property. In addition, shared
�•. parking also should be required for the church on the office/industrial parcels.
The church facility within the project provides the potential to transition land uses from less
intensive residential to the south and southwest and institutional to the west to more intensive
office/industrial to the north and east. Churches also provide community services that otherwise
may need to be provided by governmental units,e.g.,social services,counseling, senior care,day
care, etc. Churches provide a sense of community and permit residents to gather and share with one
another.
The applicant's concept site plan proposes two large buildings,two office buildings,and a church
facility. Staff is concerned about the building and parking lot configurations. Staff recommends
that the building orientation be primarily toward Highway 5 and Coulter Boulevard.
The proposed project is between the east and west(main)branches of the Bluff Creek. Both the
east branch and the main channel of Bluff Creek are DNR protected. The City of Chanhassen
protects Bluff Creek as a natural resource corridor from the headwaters to its discharge point at the
Minnesota River. Staff recommendations for this project will be maintaining the natural vegetation
and landscape where it still exists, intensify the proposed landscape plan along the creek to improve
the buffer and to keep setbacks from the creek at a minimum of 100 feet with an 50 foot buffer
area. This area has been identified by the Bluff Creek Management Plan, as a candidate for
Bluff Creek Corporate Center PUD
April 1, 1998
Page 3
floodplain forest restoration. The applicant shall incorporate Lowland Hardwood Forest
restoration in the landscape plan. Plantings along Bluff Creek and the proposed storm water
pond should be chosen based on wildlife food and/or cover value. Since an important facet of
the management plan is to provide a wildlife corridor along Bluff Creek, it is essential to
landscape appropriately. Proposed overstory and ornamental trees could be a choice of quaking
aspen, amur maple, willows, black cherry, serviceberry, swamp white oak, or aborvitae while
proposed shrubs could include highbush cranberry, winterberry, and red-osier dogwood. The
proposed prairie and wetland seeding mixes are nice amenities in the landscape plan and will
benefit the site greatly.
As part of the City's discussion regarding the concept plan for the development, City Council -
requested that a tax analysis be prepared to show the implications of permitting a church facility
on office/industrial land. Below is a summary of that review. _
Office Warehouse Mix
Lot Area Bldg Sq. Ft. % Office FAR Taxes _
Lot ,Block 1 251,469 60,000 50% 0.24 $120,000
Lot 2, Block 1 110,521 22,000 50% 0.20 $ 44,000
Lot 1, Block 2 218,443 62,000 50% 0.28 $124,000 _
Lot 2, Block 2 144,046 30,000 50% 0.21 $ 60,000
Lot 3, Block 2 117,394 23,500 50% 0.20 $ 47,000
Total 841,873 197,500 0.23 $395,000 -
Primarily Office
Lot 1 ,Block 1 251 ,469 60,000 50% 0.24 $120,000
Lot 2, Block 1 110,521 44,000 100% 0.40 $110,000 -
Lot 1, Block 2 218,443 62,000 50% 0.28 $124,000
Lot 2, Block 2 144,046 38,000 50% 0.26 $ 76,000
Lot 3, Block 2 117,394 39,000 100% 0.33 $ 97,500 -
Total 841,873 243,000 0.30 $527,500
Bluff Creek Corporate Center PUD
April 1, 1998
Page 4
Difference between office warehouse and primarily office $ 132,500
Potential Revenue from Lot 1, Block 1 $ 120,000
Net Revenue due to development primarily office, allowing church
Assume Office/Warehouse Tax at $2.00 per square foot.
Assume Office/Warehouse Tax at $2.50 per square foot.
Due to the applicant's decision to increase the office component of the development, the
potential tax consequences are minimized. Net revenues are slightly positive based on the above
analysis.
Staff has prepared a draft design standard for the development. While modeled after other
developments, these standards attempt to address the specific concerns for this site.
Staff is recommending that the preliminary PUD be approved subject to the proposed conditions.
BACKGROUND
On January 12, 1998, the City Council granted Concept approval for PUD#97-2 subject to City
Council's discussion and the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall submit site coverage and impervious surface calculations for each lot and
the overall site.
2. Staff recommends that the church commit to provide approximately 147 parking stalls for the
industrial office users of the property.
3. Staff recommends that the amount of parking and impervious surface on Lots 2 and 3 be
reduced.
4. Staff believes that a U-shaped building on the northerly portion of the property would be
more appropriate to address pedestrian circulation to the proposed warehouse as well as
address the sight lines for the truck loading facility. Staff would recommend that the building
orientation be primarily toward Highway 5 and Coulter Boulevard, especially for Lots 1 and 2,
rather than the orientation shown on the concept plan. This would require the building on Lot
1 to be reoriented 90 to 180 degrees and the building on Lot 2 to be reoriented 90 degrees. Staff
would also suggest that the church investigate a walkout type facility, similar to that used for
the St. Hubert Catholic Community in Villages on the Ponds, to help reduce site grading. To
improve the layout, staff suggests to design a parking lot on both sides of the building and
add sidewalks.
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5. Staff strongly recommends all 34 boulevard trees be preserved and guaranteed by the
applicant. Where trees need to be removed for entrances,they must be replaced elsewhere
along Coulter Boulevard. Protective tree fencing shall be installed around all boulevard trees
prior to any grading activity.
6. Additional landscape islands are required in the parking lots; a minimum of one island for
each 6,000 square feet of vehicular use area.
7. The loading docks of the southern warehouse building are visible from Coulter Boulevard
and require evergreen plantings to screen the area.
8. Visibility of the expansive parking lots from Highway 5 should be limited as much as
possible.
9. The applicant shall incorporate increased evergreen plantings and berms to obstruct sight _
lines into the parking areas.
10. Plantings along Bluff Creek and the proposed storm water pond should be chosen based on
wildlife food and/or cover value. Proposed overstory and ornamental trees could be a choice
of quaking aspen, amur maple,willows,black cherry, serviceberry, swamp white oak, or
aborvitae while proposed shrubs could include highbush cranberry, winterberry, elders,
sumac, and red-osier dogwood. City staff shall approve final landscape schedule.
11. In lieu of parkland dedication and public trail development,the city shall collect full park and
trail dedication fees for this development. In the event that the applicant deems the
dedication of the"creek"outlots into public domain desirable,the Park& Recreation
Commission would review this offer. But, again, no park fee credits would be granted.
12. The applicant is required to plan private internal trail connectors from their site to the
surrounding public trail system,thus maximizing their benefit of the recreation system
already in place.
13. The applicant shall dedicate a 20 ft. trail easement over the trail segment located in the
southeast corner of the site that lays outside the Coulter Boulevard right-of-way.
14. The development shall maintain the natural vegetation and landscape where it still exists, —
intensify the proposed landscape plan along the creek to improve the buffer and to keep
setbacks from the creek at a minimum of 100 feet with a 50 foot buffer area.
15. This area has been identified by the Bluff Creek Management Plan as a candidate for
floodplain forest restoration. The applicant shall incorporate some element of forest
restoration in the landscape plan along both branches of Bluff Creek. —
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16. The developer shall supply the City with a detailed haul route for review and approval by
staff for materials imported to or exported from the site. If the material is proposed to be
hauled off-site to another location in Chanhassen, that property owner will be required to
obtain an earthwork permit from the City.
17. The applicant's engineer should review the possibility of connecting into the City's existing
storm sewer in Coulter Boulevard from the southerly drainage pond or combining the pond
with the proposed storm water basin north of the church. If the developer desires to construct
the southerly pond, the City shall not be responsible for maintenance and the developer shall
not receive credit against their SWMP fees.
18. All ponding basin side slopes shall be 4:1 overall or 3:1 with a 10:1 bench at the normal
water elevation.
19. The grading, drainage and erosion control plan shall incorporate temporary sediment basins
to address site runoff during the grading operations.
20. The storm sewer system shall be designed for a 10-year, 24-hour storm event. Ponding
calculations and drainage maps including pre- and post-development conditions for a 10-year
and 100-year storm event will also be required by City staff for review and approval prior to
final plat consideration.
21. The applicant shall work with MnDOT in coordinating the storm drainage system from Trunk
Highway 5 into the proposed stormwater basin north of the church site. The applicant may
be entitled to credits against their SWMP fees as a result of pond oversizing and pipe
extension.
22. The public street and utility improvements throughout the development will require detailed
construction plans and specifications in accordance with the City's latest edition of standard
specifications and detail plates. Final construction plans and specifications shall be
submitted for City Council approval. The private utilities shall also be constructed in
accordance with City's Standard Specifications and Detail Plates.
23. The developer will be required to enter into a PUD Agreement/Development Contract with
the City and provide the necessary financial security to guarantee utility and street
construction as well as the final plat conditions of approval.
24. The proposed wet tap on the watermain near the trail in the southeasterly corner of the site
shall be relocated to avoid interference with the existing trail.
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25. Public streets shall be incorporated to provide access to all three lots. A 60-foot wide right-
of-way with a 60-foot radius cul-de-sac shall be incorporated into the site plan. The private
street shall be constructed to a 9-ton design.
26. All parking lot drive aisles adjacent to 90 degree parking shall be a minimum of 26-feet wide
pursuant to City Code. Drive aisle configurations near the intersection of Lots 1, 2 and 3 lot
line shall be reconfigured to minimize drive aisle points onto main street.
27. The developer's right for a future right-in/right-out access to Trunk Highway 5 shall be
extinguished upon final platting unless the developer negotiates with MnDOT to transfer the •
right-in/right-out access to the adjacent property to the east.
28. The City's standards for boulevard street lighting shall be incorporated in the public portion
of the streets.
29. A 10 foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e., street lamps, trees, ...
shrubs, bushes,NSP,US West, Cable TV and transformer boxes. This is to ensure that fire
hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to Chanhassen
City Ordinance 9-1.
30. Install post indicator valve on fire water service coming into the building. Contact
Chanhassen Fire Marshal or Fire Inspector for exact location.
31. An additional fire hydrant will be required near the church main entrance. Contact
Chanhassen Fire Marshal for exact location of hydrant.
32. When fire protection including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire
protection is required. Such protection shall be installed and made serviceable prior to and —
during time of construction. Pursuant to Minnesota Uniform Fire Code 1991 Sect. 10-502.
33. "No parking" fire lane signs and yellow curbing shall be provided. Contact the Chanhassen
Fire Marshal for exact locations of signage and painted curbing. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Policy#06-1991. Copy enclosed.
34. Fire apparatus access roads shall be provided for every facility,building or portion of a
building hereafter constructed or moved into or within jurisdiction when any portion of the
facility, or any portion of an exterior wall of the first story of the building, is located more
than 150 feet from apparatus access as measured by an approved route around the exterior of
the building or facility. Exception:
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When buildings are completely protected with an approved automatic sprinkler system
the provisions of this section may be modified by the Chief.
When access roads cannot be installed due to topography,waterways,non negotiable
grades or other similar conditions, the Chief is authorized to require additional fire
protection as specified in Section 10.501 (b). Note: As building plans become available
we will review the plan to determine if standpipes are required in any portion of the
building due to the fact that we cannot achieve 150 foot access of all portions of the
building."
Staff believes that many of these issues have been resolved between the preliminary and concept
stages of the PUD.
Site Characteristics
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The site contains rolling topography with a high point in the east-central portion of the site of
962. The property is bounded on the east by a tributary to Bluff Creek and on the west by the
main branch of bluff creek. The site is bounded on the north by Highway 5 and on the south by
Coulter Boulevard. An electric transmission corridor bisects the site running from the north to
the south.
The site is highly visible from Highway 5. In addition, it serves as a transition area to less
intensive development to the south and west from the potential more intensive industrial uses to
the east. The proposed project is between east and west(main)branches of the Bluff Creek. The
City has planned to have the Bluff Creek as a natural resource corridor from the headwaters to its
discharge point at the Minnesota River. This site can showcase the city's attempt to preserve,
protect,and enhance the bluff creek corridor.
REZONING
Justification for Rezoning to PUD
The applicant is requesting to rezone approximately 27.3 acres from A2, Agricultural Estate, to
PUD, Planned Unit Development. There are two(2) components to the PUD: industrial/office
and institutional. The following review constitutes our evaluation of the PUD request. The
review criteria is taken from the intent section of the PUD Ordinance.
Section 20-501. Intent
Planned unit developments offer enhanced flexibility to develop a site through the relaxation of
most normal zoning district standards. The use of the PUD zoning also allows for a greater
variety of uses, internal transfer of density, construction phasing, and a potential for lower
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development costs. In exchange for this enhanced flexibility,the City has the expectation that
the development plan will result in a significantly higher quality and more sensitive proposal than
would have been the case with the other more standard zoning districts.
FINDINGS
It will be the applicant's responsibility to demonstrate that the City's expectations are to be
realized as evaluated against the following criteria:
1. Preservation of desirable site characteristics and open space and protection of sensitive
environmental features, including steep slopes, mature trees, creeks, wetlands, lakes and
scenic views.
Finding. The applicant has shown some interest in protecting natural features on site. If
the developer incorporates staff recommendations for setbacks,reforestation/revegetation,
additional protection will be achieved.
2. More efficient and effective use of land, open space and public facilities through mixing
of land uses and assembly and development of land in larger parcels. —
Finding. The mixing of land uses can be more efficient provided sufficient shared
parking opportunities are provided to reduce the total amount of impervious surface.
3. High quality of design and design compatible with surrounding land uses, including both
existing and planned. Site planning, landscaping and building architecture should reflect
higher quality design than is found elsewhere in the community.
Finding. The proposed design standards will assure a high quality design. Each site
would be reviewed through the site plan review process.
4. Sensitive development in transitional areas located between different land uses and along —
significant corridors within the city will be encouraged.
Finding. The inclusion of the institutional facility assists in providing a transition from —
the less intensive uses to the south and west to the more intensive uses. In addition,the
preservation of the Bluff Creek corridor would be assured.
5. Development which is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
Finding. The proposed development is consistent with the comprehensive plan.
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6. Parks and open space. The creation of public open space may be required by the city.
Such park and open space shall be consistent with the Comprehensive Park Plan and
overall trail plan.
Finding. The comprehensive park plan does not propose public lands in this area. The
Bluff Creek corridor would be preserved as part of the development.
7. Provision of housing affordable to all income groups if appropriate with the PUD.
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Finding. Not applicable as part of this development.
8. Energy conservation through the use of more efficient building designs and sitings and
the clustering of buildings and land uses.
Finding. Additional conservation could be achieved if the design standards are followed.
9. Use of traffic management and design techniques to reduce the potential for traffic
conflicts. Improvements to area roads and intersections may be required as appropriate.
Finding. Appropriate traffic management techniques will be used. The developer and
site users will be required to use traffic demand management strategies.
Summary of Rezoning to PUD
Rezoning the property to PUD provides the applicant with flexibility, but allows the city to
request additional improvements and the site's unique features can be better protected. The
flexibility in standards allows the disturbed areas to be further removed from the unique features
of the site. In return for the flexibility,the city is receiving:
• Development that is consistent with Comprehensive Plan
• Preservation of desirable site characteristics (wetlands, trees, topographical features)
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• Sensitive development in transitional areas
• More efficient use of land
_ • Reduced impervious surface
• Higher quality site design and building architecture
— GENERAL SITE PLAN/ARCHITECTURE
The development would need, at a minimum, to comply with the Highway 5 Design Standards.
In addition, staff would recommend that the development comply with the following:
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DEVELOPMENT DESIGN STANDARDS
Development Standards
a. Intent
The purpose of this zone is to create a PUD light industrial/office park. The use of the PUD zone is
to allow for more flexible design standards while creating a higher quality and more sensitive
proposal. All utilities are required to be placed underground. Each lot proposed for development
shall proceed through site plan review based on the development standards outlined below.
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Photo-composite images of proposed development adjacent to Highways 5 shall be submitted as
part of the review process. The PUD requires that the development demonstrate a higher quality
of architectural standards and site design. Ancillary uses may be permitted as listed below once a
primary use has occupied the site. Shared parking shall be required of the development.
b. Permitted Uses —
The permitted uses in this zone shall be limited to institutional use on one lot only or light
industrial, warehousing,and office as defined below. The uses shall be limited to those as defined _
herein. If there is a question as to whether or not a use meets the definition, the City Council shall
make that interpretation.
Light Industrial- The manufacturing,compounding,processing,assembling,packaging, or testing
of goods or equipment or research activities entirely within an enclosed structure, with no outside
storage. There shall be negligible impact upon the surrounding environment by noise, vibration, —
smoke, dust or pollutants.
Warehousing- Means the commercial storage of merchandise and personal property. —
Office- Professional and business office.
Health Services- establishments primarily engaged in furnishing medical, surgical and other
health services to persons. _
Conferences/Convention Center - establishments designed to accommodate people in assembly,
providing conference and meeting services to individuals, groups, and organizations. _
Indoor Recreation/Health Club - establishments engaged in operating reducing and other health
clubs, spas, and similar facilities featuring exercise and other physical fitness conditioning. —
Hotel/Motel- establishments engaged in furnishing lodging, or lodging and meals, to the general
public. —
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Research Laboratory - establishments engaged in scientific research or study.
Ancillary Uses (in conjunction with and integral to a primary use)
Showroom - showroom type display area for products stored or manufactured on-site provided that
no more than 20 percent of the floor space is used for such display and sales.
Telecommunication Towers and Antennas by conditional use permit only.
Day Care- establishments providing for the care and supervision of infants and children on a
daily basis.
Prohibited uses
• Contractors Yard
• Lumber Yard
• Home Improvement/Building Supply
• Garden Center
• Auto related including sales and repair
• Home furnishings and equipment stores
• General Merchandise Store
c. Setbacks
The development is regulated by the Highway 5 and the PUD Standards. There are no minimum
requirements for setbacks on interior lot lines in the PUD zone, except as specified below. The
following setbacks shall apply:
Frontage Minimum Setback Building/Parking Maximum Setback Building/Parking
Hwy. 5 (Outlot A) 70/50 150
Coulter Boulevard 50/30 100 *
Interior Street 30/20 NA
Bluff Creek:
West Lot line Lot 1,Block 1 80/80 NA
West Lot Line Lot 2,Block 1 15/15 NA
East Lot Line Lot 1,Block 2 110/110 NA
East Lot Line Lot 2,Block 2 110/110 NA
North Lot Line Lot 2,Block 2 80/80 NA
East Lot Line Lot 3,Block 2 60/60 NA
• Church facility is excluded from this maximum building setback.
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(Lot and Block Designations are based on proposed preliminary plat numbering.)
The average hard surface coverage does not include Outlot A. The PUD standard for hard
surface coverage is 70% for office and industrial uses. Any one site/lot can exceed the 70
percent requirement,but in no case can the entire finished development exceed 70 percent.
d. Development Standards Tabulation Box
1. Building Area
Building Square Footage Breakdown
Use Maximum Percent Total Square Feet —
Office 62% 160,000
Light Industrial /Warehouse 400/0 100,000
Ancillary/other 15% 40,000
Institutional 23% 60,000
Total (Maximum) 260,000
2. More than one (1)principal structure may be placed on one (1) platted lot.
3. Building height shall be limited to 3 stories or 40 feet.
e. Building Materials and Design —
1. The PUD requires that the development demonstrate a higher quality of architectural
standards and site design. Primary building orientation shall be to Highway 5 and Coulter —
Boulevard.
2. All materials shall be of high quality and durable. Masonry material shall be used. Color —
shall be introduced through colored block or panels and not painted cinder block.
3. Brick may be used and must be approved to assure uniformity.
4. Block shall have a weathered face or be polished, fluted, or broken face.
5. Concrete may be poured in place,tilt-up or pre-cast,and shall be finished in stone, textured,
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6. Metal siding will not be approved except as support material to one of the above materials
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or curtain wall on office components or,as trim or as HVAC screen.
7. All accessory structures shall be designed to be compatible with the primary structure.
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8. All roof mounted equipment shall be screened from adjacent public right-of-ways by walls
of compatible appearing material or camouflaged to blend into the building or background.
Wood screen fences are prohibited. All exterior process machinery, tanks, etc., are to be
fully screened by compatible materials.
9. The use of large unadorned, concrete panels and concrete block, or a solid wall unrelieved
by architectural detailing, such as change in materials, change in color, fenestrations, or
other significant visual relief provided in a manner or at intervals in keeping with the size,
mass, and scale of the wall and its views from public ways shall be prohibited.
Acceptable materials will incorporate textured surfaces, exposed aggregate and/or other
patterning. All walls shall be given added architectural interest through building design or
appropriate landscaping. The buildings shall have varied and interesting detailing.
.- 10. Space for recycling shall be provided in the interior of all principal structures or within an
enclosure for each lot developed in the Business Center.
11 Each buildings shall contain one or more pitched roof elements depending on scale and
type of building, or other architectural treatments such as towers,arches,vaults, entryway
projections, canopies and detailing to add additional interest and articulation to structures.
12. There shall be no underdeveloped sides of buildings visible from public right-of-ways.
All elevations visible from the street shall receive nearly equal treatment and visual
qualities.
f. Site Landscaping and Screening
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1. Landscaping along Highway 5 shall comply with Buffer yard standard C. Coulter
Boulevard shall comply with Buffer yard standard B. The master landscape plan for the
Bluff Creek Corporate Center PUD shall be the design guide for all of the specific site
landscape developments. Each lot must present a landscape plan for approval with the site
plan review process.
2. Storage of material outdoors is prohibited unless it has been approved under site plan
— review. All approved outdoor storage must be screened with masonry fences and/or
landscaping.
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3. Undulating or angular berms or elevation changes of 3'in height shall be placed along
Coulter Boulevard. The berms shall be sodded or seeded at the conclusion of each project —
Phase grading and utility construction. The required buffer landscaping may be installed
incrementally, but it shall be required where it is deemed necessary to screen any proposed
development. All required boulevard landscaping shall be sodded. —
4. Loading areas shall be screened 100 percent year round from public right-of-ways. Wing
walls may be required where deemed appropriate.
g. Signage
1. The Bluff Creek Corporate Center PUD shall be permitted two identification signs: one sign on
Coulter Boulevard and one sign on Highway 5. The sign on Coulter Boulevard shall not
exceed eight feet in height. The sign on Highway 5 shall not exceed 20 feet in height. A
maximum of 80 square feet of sign area shall be permitted per sign.
2. All freestanding parcel signs shall be limited to monument signs. The sign shall not exceed
eighty(80) square feet in sign display area nor be greater than eight(8) feet in height. The sign
treatment is an element of the architecture and thus should reflect the quality of the
development. The signs should be consistent in color, size, and material throughout the
development. The applicant should submit a sign package for staff review.
3. Each property shall be allowed one monument sign per street frontage.
4. The signage will have consistency throughout the development. A common theme will be
introduced at the development's entrance monument and will be used throughout.
5. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size, materials, and heights. —
6. Wall sign shall be permitted per city ordinance for industrial office park site.
7. All signs shall require a separate sign permit.
h. Lighting
1. Lighting for the interior of the business center should be consistent throughout the
development. The street lights should be designed consistent with the existing lighting
along Coulter Boulevard.
2. A decorative, shoe box fixture(high pressure sodium vapor lamps)with a square
ornamental pole shall be used throughout the development area for area lighting.
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3 Lighting equipment similar to what is mounted in the public street right-of-ways shall be
used in the private areas.
4. All light fixtures shall be shielded. Light level for site lighting shall be no more than 1/2
candle at the property line. This does not apply to street lighting.
i. Alternative Access
1. Each site shall accommodate transit service within the individual development, whenever
possible.
2. Pedestrian access shall be provided from each site to the public sidewalk and trail system.
3. The developer and site users shall promote and encourage Traffic Demand Management
Strategies.
4. Each site shall provide areas for bicycle parking and storage.
SUBDIVISION REVIEW
WETLANDS
There are two wetlands identified on this site. One is a small ag/urban depression located in the
north edge of the project, which the applicant is proposing to fill. The second wetland is part of
the west branch of the Bluff Creek and was created as part of a wetland mitigation and
enhancement project. This wetland is identified as a pond on the south part of Outlot B on the
applicants plans.
When the City extended Coulter Boulevard, connecting Galpin Boulevard to Audubon Road, we
were required to mitigate for wetland impacts and impacts caused by utilities crossing Bluff
Creek. As a result of these wetland impacts, the City constructed a wetland mitigation plan that
created 0.70 acres of new wetlands by raising the outlet control and increasing the width of the
creek in this area. Initially the plan would have created 1.4 acres of new wetland in this area, but
was rejected because of impacts to future development's storm water basin.
To fulfill the remaining mitigation requirements, the project provided 0.90 acres of upland
vegetation to improve the creek's buffer on both sides. The plan also removed the existing reed
canary grass and reestablished emergent vegetation. At the request of the Minnesota Department
of Natural Resources, a rock weir structure was constructed to promote fish travel and spawning
in the creek
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While the applicant has expressed disappointment with the impact this project has had on their —
site, it is important to remember that the applicant petitioned for the capital improvements which
made the wetland project necessary.
In developing this mitigation project, the City followed the recommendations of the Bluff Creek
Watershed Management Plan. The plan targeted this area for improvements with forested areas
as well as vegetation restoration.
WETLAND IMPACTS
The proposed impacts of this project will affect a Type 2, Ag/urban wetland basin which is part
of the Bluff Creek Watershed. This wetland is area that has previously been altered due to
agricultural practices. It is now a partial drained wet meadow wetlands dominated by reed canary
grass. This wetland is approximately 845 sq. ft. in size. The impact of this proposed project
would eliminate this wetland entirely.
The rules of the City's wetland ordinances and the State of Minnesota's Wetland Conservation
Act, allow for wetland impacts up to 2,000 square feet with no mitigation.
SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN(SWMP)
Storm Water Quality Fees
The SWMP has established a water quality connection charge for each new subdivision based on —
land use. Dedication shall be equal to the cost of land and pond volume needed for treatment of the
phosphorus load leaving the site. The requirement for cash in lieu of land and pond construction
shall be based upon a schedule in accordance with the prescribed land use zoning. Values are —
calculated using market values of land in the City of Chanhassen plus a value of$2.50 per cubic
yard for excavation of the pond. SWMP water quality charge is$4,633/acre for industrial
developments. The proposed development would be responsible for a net area of 19.33 acres which
results in a water quality connection fee of$89,556.
This fee is waived if the applicant provides adequate stormwater treatment,as outlined by the City's
Surface Water Management Plan.
Storm Water Quantity Fees
The SWMP has established a connection charge for the different land uses based on an average
city-wide rate for the installation of water quantity systems. This cost includes land acquisition,
proposed SWMP culverts,open channels and storm water ponding areas for runoff storage.
Industrial developments have a connection charge of$4,360 per developable acre. The proposed _
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development would then be responsible for a net area of 19.33 acres which results in a water
quantity connection charge of$84,279.
Both water quality and water quantity fees are due at the time of the final plat.
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BLUFF CREEK
The proposed project is between east and west(main) branches of the Bluff Creek. Both the east
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branch and the main channel of Bluff Creek are DNR protected waters, which require a minimum
building setback of 50 feet. The City has planned Bluff Creek as a natural resource corridor from
the headwaters to its discharge point at the Minnesota River. The City recently completed the
Bluff Creek Watershed Management Plan, a study of the creek's watershed which proposed
increased setbacks, to preserve the creek and its natural qualities. This development lies within
an area identified as the meadow lands in the study. This study recommended 300 foot setbacks
along both sides of the creek. The report committee felt that distance was necessary to maintain the
integrity of the creek's natural features and to buffer it from the intense development of streets and
homes.
Staff recognizes that due to intense land use(farming), this portion of the creek corridor no
longer contains the significant or native vegetation along the west branch, and very little along
the east branch. As part of the design standards for the development, staff has proposed setbacks
that, we believe, implement the intent of the Bluff Creek study. The proposed setbacks, while
— reducing the developable area of this site, do not overly burden the development.
Staff recommendations for this project will be maintaining the natural vegetation and landscape
where it still exists, intensifying the proposed landscape plan along the creek to improve the buffer
and to keep setbacks from the creek at a minimum of 100 feet with an 50 foot buffer area. Staff
is proposing that the edge of the pond and along the existing wetland be considered where
measurements for any corridor be established.
This area has been identified by the Bluff Creek Management Plan, as a candidate for floodplain
forest restoration (project 2b of the Bluff Creek Study) to recreate a lowland hardwood forest.
The applicant shall include a flood plain forest restoration in the landscape plan.
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This wetland starts just south of Highway 5 and extends south adjacent to the creek. The
vegetative community directly adjacent to Highway 5 is still moderate quality flood plain forest
which contains willow and box elder. We recommend that this area be preserved. The rest of
the wetland is dominated by a narrow band of reed canary grass along the creek. The west side
of the wetland, which is adjacent to school ball fields, has had much of the vegetation replaced
_ with turf grass. Turf grass has a very shallow root system that inhibits soil binding. Small
gullies are forming on the side of the wetland which is planted with turf grass. The east side of
the wetland has a narrow band of reed canary grass before the adjacent agricultural field.
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Wetland restoration of this basin will involve the establishment of a flood plain forest. The goal —
could be to widen the flood plain forest community on the east side of the creek through
excavation. Increasing the flood plain forest will provide additional storage during storm events —
and help shelter the creek and school from future development. Reestablishment of the shrub
and native herbaceous layer in the saturated turf grass area adjacent to the stream will help reduce
erosion to the creek and provide cover for animal passage. Additional benefits include providing -
a nature interpretive area for the nearby school.
A mixture of lowland hardwood tree and shrub species characteristic of the big woods region —
should be planted on this site (see plant list appendix C). Measures will need to be taken to
reduce competition between new tree and shrub seedlings and reed canary grass. The site should
be mowed or sprayed before planting seedlings. From 500 to 800 trees per acre should be —
planted depending on caliper size of seedlings. Spot spraying or mowing around seedlings
should be done until seedlings are above the height of the reed canary grass. Once tree seedlings
are established, the same procedure should be repeated to establish shrubs. Eventually, trees and _
shrubs should attain a size large enough to shade out most of the reed canary grass.
LANDSCAPING AND TREE PRESERVATION —
Landscaping needs and requirements for the site are influenced by three important factors:
visibility into the site from Hwy. 5 and Coulter Blvd., recommendations from the Bluff Creek —
Management Plan, and the large expanses of parking lots.
Because the site slopes down from Highway 5, much of the proposed development could be seen —
by east and west bound traffic. While it is important for drivers to be able to see who the
businesses in the site are, visibility of the parking lots is an issue. Reduction of parking lot
visibility will be helped by the two-story buildings closest to the highway and landscaping. As —
proposed, evergreens and shrubs will act as screening for the front parking lots. Staff
recommends understory trees be added to further enhance the landscaping and screening without
requiring a solid front of evergreens. Visibility of parking lots from Coulter Blvd. is greatly
reduced by the fact that the road is nearly 10' below the proposed development and drivers would
be looking up to look into the development. Proposed landscaping between the road and parking —
lots includes evergreens and shrubs with some ornamental trees. Existing boulevard trees
planted by the City will remain. Staff recommends these trees be protected by tree fencing
during construction. —
The Bluff Creek Management Plan recommends native vegetation for planting within the Bluff
Creek corridor. The applicant is proposing native grasses and forbs be seeded within the 100' _
corridor along with groupings of tree and shrubs scattered throughout. The majority of groupings
include mainly understory trees and shrubs. Additional native overstory trees need to be added to
these plantings. Natural wooded habitat along the Creek always includes overstory trees and the —
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sections along Bluff Creek Partnership development should be no exception. Selections of plant
materials for the creek corridor are consistent, if somewhat limited, with recommendations made
by the management plan with one exception. Amur maple has been proposed as an understory
tree to be planted within the corridor. While this tree has many positive landscape qualities and
has high value for wildlife, it is a non-native, invasive species and should not be included in the
— corridor plantings. Staff recommends applicant consult the Bluff Creek Management Plan and
select a recommended understory species to replace all Amur maples scheduled to be planted
within the corridor.
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Parking lots in the development cover a significant amount of the site. The applicant has done a
good job in meeting parking lot landscaping ordinance requirements. Preliminary measurements
of landscape islands showed some islands measuring less than 10' in width, the minimum
required by ordinance. Staff recommends all landscape islands be at least 10' in width and that
additional trees be planted in the western central area of the development along the proposed
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pond between the church and the building fronting Highway 5. Native overstory trees and shrubs
should be incorporated in this area.
By ordinance, developments that front on public streets are required to provide overstory trees
every 30 feet. The applicant has not met this requirement along the proposed extension of Stone
Creek Drive.
PARK AND RECREATION
The Park & Recreation Commission met on November 25, 1997 to review the proposed concept
plan.
The City's Comprehensive Park Plan identifies this site as a portion of the service area for the
Chanhassen Recreation Center/Bluff Creek Elementary School. No additional public park areas
are required in this service area.
Comprehensive Trail Plan
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The City's Comprehensive Trail Plan identifies Coulter Boulevard and the Bluff Creek Corridor
as "planned" trail routes. Coulter Boulevard borders this site on the south and the main branch of
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Bluff Creek borders the site on the west. Both the Coulter Boulevard trail "main branch" and
Bluff Creek Trail are already in existence. Trail connections from this development site to the
existing trails is desirable.
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GRADING
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The majority(90%±)of the site is proposed to be graded to develop the streets, parking lots,
storm drainage ponds and building sites. The site ranges in elevation from 927 at the Bluff Creek
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west branch to 962 in the center of the parcel. The five proposed building sites range from 935
to 963. It appears based on the building elevations that some of the topographic characteristics of —
the site will be retained. Site grading will require extensive earthwork to prepare the site for
development. Should earthwork quantities not balance on the site and material needs to be
imported or exported from the site, the developer will need to supply the City with a detailed
haul route for review and approval by staff. In addition, if the material is proposed to be hauled
off site to another location in Chanhassen, it should be noted the properties will be required to
obtain an earthwork permit from the City.
The plans propose a regional storm water drainage pond north of the church site on Outlot B to
pretreat runoff prior to entering the wetland. The pond shall be constructed with 4:1 slopes
overall or 3:1 with a 10:1 bench at the normal water elevation. Consideration for access to
perform maintenance functions shall be included in the final pond design. Given the size of this
development, temporary sediment basins should be designed with the final grading plans to
address site runoff during the grading operations.
The pond is proposed to be constructed within the 100-year flood plain boundary. The plans
propose to alter the flood plain level as a result of the development. Any changes in the flood
plain will also require the developer to notify the Federal Emergency Management Agency
(FEMA). The developer will be responsible for providing FEMA the necessary documentation
to have federal flood plain maps changed to reflect developed conditions.
The Minnesota Department of Transportation (MnDOT) has programmed the upgrade of Trunk
Highway 5 in the years 2000-2002. Currently, construction plans are being prepared
(approximately 60% completed) to widen Trunk Highway 5 to a four-lane facility from Powers
Boulevard to Trunk Highway 41. The developer shall work with MnDOT in coordinating site
grades and access (right in/right out) to be compatible with MnDOT's Trunk Highway 5 plans.
The existing power line will be effected by site grading. The power poles/lines will need to be
relocated or adjusted to blend with proposed site grades. The developer has suggested that
MnDOT be responsible for the relocation of power lines, however, given the timing of Trunk
Highway 5 upgrade, the developer will most likely be constructing on the site prior to upgrading
of Trunk Highway 5. The developer needs to coordinate the adjustment/relocation of the power
lines with MnDOT.
DRAINAGE
A comprehensive drainage plan has been developed to address storm water runoff from the site.
The plans propose a series of storm sewers to convey surface water runoff from the individual
lots and buildings to a proposed regional storm water pond for pretreatment prior to discharging
into the wetlands. The development's storm sewer system shall be designed for a 10-year, 24-
hour storm event. Ponding calculations and drainage maps including pre- and post-development
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conditions for a 10-year and 100-year storm event will also be required for City staff review and
approval prior to final plat consideration.
UTILITIES
Municipal sewer and water is available to the site indirectly. Subdivision of this parcel will
require the extension of sanitary and water service into the development to serve all five lots.
Currently, watermain service has been extended to the property line at the intersection of Stone
Creek Drive and Coulter Boulevard. The City's sanitary sewer trunk line runs parallel to Bluff
Creek's west branch. The sanitary sewer is proposed to be extended into the development just
north of the church. The developer has requested the City install the public street and utility
improvements through a 429 public improvement project. Currently, the City has reached its
bonding limits for 1998. In addition, given the time of year, the project would not commence
* , until October, 1998 due to the public hearing process,preparation of a feasibility study,plans and
specifications, and award of bid. If the developer still desires to have the City construct the
public improvements in 1999, a petition needs to be submitted to the City.
The developer shall dedicate on the final plat drainage and utility easements over the existing
utilities and drainageways (creeks). The City did not obtain easements for this work since the
applicant was one of the petitioning property owners for Coulter Boulevard and it was presumed
that the easements would be dedicated with the final plat of the development. The applicant did
sign a right-of-entry form for the City to perform the work.
The extension of utilities throughout this development will require submittal of detailed
construction plans and specifications in accordance with the City's latest edition of Standard
Specifications and Detail Plates for City review and City Council approval. Construction plans
and specifications will need to be submitted three weeks prior to final plat consideration. The
mainline utility improvements to serve all five lots will, upon completion,become City
maintained and owned. The individual sewer and water services to each lot will be privately
owned and maintained. Building permits from the City's Public Safety Department will be
required for the private utility portion of the project. Drainage and utility easements will be
required over the public utility lines outside of public right-of-way on the final plat. Depending
on the depth of the utilities, the minimum drainage and utility easement shall be 20 feet wide. It
appears that the proposed church may be encroaching within the proposed utility easement for
the sanitary sewer through Lot 1. The building shall not encroach upon the utility easement or
impede access to perform maintenance functions. The developer will also be required to enter
into a PUD Agreement/Development Contract with the City and provide the necessary financial
security to guarantee utility and street construction as well as the final plat conditions of
approval.
Upon review of the preliminary watermain layout, a looped watermain system is proposed. It is
prudent from a fire flow and dependability standpoint to extend a watermain lead to the east
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underneath Bluff Creek east branch for future looping and connection to the next phase east of
this development.
The proposed wet-tap watermain near the trail in the southeasterly corner of the site should be
relocated. The current proposal would interfere with existing trail and steps that were recently
constructed with the pedestrian bridge. This can be further analyzed when an individual site plan
from the parcel is submitted to the City for consideration.
STREETS
The plans propose servicing the site with the extension of Stone Creek Drive north of Coulter
Boulevard. In addition,a private access from Coulter Boulevard west of Stone Creek Boulevard
is proposed for the church. The plans proposed to construct a 36-foot face-to-face commercial
type street section within a 60-foot wide dedicated right-of-way as required by city codes. A 5-
foot wide concrete sidewalk is proposed along the east side of Stone Creek Drive. The plans
propose numerous crosswalks along Stone Creek Drive. Staff believes the number of crossings
can and should be reduced from a pedestrian safety standpoint. Sidewalks along both sides of
Stone Creek Drive may be appropriate to direct pedestrian traffic to a safe crossing point along
Stone Creek Drive.
The public streets shall be designed and constructed in accordance with the City's latest edition
of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates. Construction plans and specifications shall be
submitted for staff review and City Council approval at least three weeks prior to final plat
consideration.
Staff is concerned about some of the drive aisle alignments and parking lot configurations from a
traffic safety standpoint. There are numerous access points onto Stone Creek Drive which staff
believes could be reduced and spaced further apart to improve and minimize turning movements
into the site. Reconfiguration of the drive aisles and parking lot areas would also permit
additional green space be incorporated between parking lots and the main street. The sidewalk
and driveway access points will be further reviewed as the individual site plans are submitted.
The right-in/right-out access onto Trunk Highway 5 has been moved westerly approximately 100
feet to avoid the powers lines. Staff has not received comments back from MnDOT regarding
the access or site grading,however,we believe that the relocation should not pose a problem
with MnDOT. Currently, staff assumes MnDOT will be constructing the right-in/right-out to the
development as a part of the Trunk Highway 5 upgrade. Depending on this project's phasing, the
right-in/right-out onto Trunk Highway 5 may not be constructed in time to facilitate the needs of
this project. During the interim, staff does not believe traffic generated from this project will
adversely effect traffic along Coulter Boulevard or surrounding streets. However, should Trunk
Highway 5 not be upgraded as currently scheduled,the developer should be aware that the right-
in/right-out onto Trunk Highway 5 will be required to be constructed at the developer's cost.
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Security or language in the development contract will be required to guarantee completion of the
right-in/right-out and deceleration/acceleration lane.
The proposed development sign at the northwest corner of the Stone Creek Drive and Coulter
— Boulevard intersection falls within the sight triangle. City code prohibits structures in excess of
30" in height in order to maintain sight lines at the intersection. The sign should be relocated
outside the sight triangle or it will be limited to a height of 30" above the centerline elevation of
the street (Stone Creek Drive).
The westerly drive aisle to the church from Coulter Boulevard could be realigned easterly to
preserve more of the Bluff Creek corridor.
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EROSION CONTROL
Erosion control fence needs to be added to the grading plan. Type III erosion control fence shall
be installed adjacent to the wetlands, creeks, and at the base of slope in areas exceeding 3:1
slope. Type I erosion control fence may be used in other areas. The plans shall also include
temporary sediment basins to accommodate site runoff during the grading operation. Additional
erosion control fence will be required adjacent the pond after the pond has been constructed.
MISCELLANEOUS
When fire protection including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire protection
is required, such protection shall be installed and made serviceable prior to and during time of
construction. Pursuant to Minnesota Uniform Fire Code 1991 Sect. 10-502.
"No parking" fire lane signs and yellow curbing shall be provided. Contact the Chanhassen Fire
Marshal for exact locations of signage and painted curbing. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Policy#06-1991. Copy enclosed.
Fire apparatus access roads shall be provided for every facility,building or portion of a building
_
hereafter constructed or moved into or within jurisdiction when any portion of the facility, or any
portion of an exterior wall of the first story of the building, is located more than 150 feet from
apparatus access as measured by an approved route around the exterior of the building or facility.
—
Exception:
When buildings are completely protected with an approved automatic sprinkler system the
—
provisions of this section may be modified by the Chief.
When access roads cannot be installed due to topography,waterways, non negotiable
grades or other similar conditions, the Chief is authorized to require additional fire
protection as specified in Section 10.501 (b). Note: As building plans become available
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we will review the plan to determine if standpipes are required in any portion of the
building due to the fact that we cannot achieve 150 foot access of all portions of the —
building."
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motion:
"The Planning Commission recommends preliminary approval of PUD #97-2, including the
—
Wetland Alteration Permit to fill the small wetland located in the northern portion of the site and
Conditional Use Permit for grading and filling in the flood plain, subject to the following
conditions: —
1. The church facility shall commit to provide approximately 160 parking stalls for the industrial
office users of the property. In addition,the office and industrial site shall provide parking
—
facilities for the church. A document acceptable to the city,protecting the joint use of the
parking facilities, shall be recorded.
2. The landscape plan shall be revised as follows:
• The developer shall add understory trees to the landscaping along Highway 5. —
• The developer shall add native overstory trees to the proposed plantings with the
Bluff Creek corridor. Recommended species can be found in the Bluff Creek
Management Plan.
—
• All Amur maples shall be removed from the Bluff Creek planting plan and replaced
with an understory species recommended by the Bluff Creek Management Plan.
• All landscape islands shall be a minimum of 10 feet wide. If islands do not meet
minimum width, aeration tubes will be required.
• The developer shall revise the landscape plan to include overstory boulevard trees
every 30' along Stone Creek Drive. If 30' is not possible because of lighting or
access points, the closest spacing will be accepted(i.e. 40 feet, etc.). —
• Additional native overstory trees and shrubs selected from the Bluff Creek
Management Plan shall incorporated into the landscaping around the proposed pond —
and western parking lots between the church and the building fronting Highway 5.
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3. The development shall pay full park and trail fees pursuant to city ordinance. The developer
shall dedicate to the City an easement for trail purposes, 20-foot wide over all existing and
—
proposed trail segments.
4. The proposed industrial development of 19.33 net developable acres is responsible for a water
— quality connection charge of$89,556 and a water quantity fee of$84,279. The developer will
be eligible for credit to the water quality fee based on stormwater treatment designs. These
fees are payable to the City prior to the City filing the final plat.
—
5. Fire hydrants shall be incorporated per the Fire Marshal's recommendations. Fire hydrants shall
placed a maximum of 300 feet apart. A 10 foot clear space must be maintained around fire
hydrants, i.e., street lamps, trees, shrubs, bushes,NSP, US West, Cable TV and transformer
boxes. This is to ensure that fire hydrants can be quickly located and safely operated by
firefighters. Pursuant to Chanhassen City Ordinance 9-1.
6. All 34 boulevard trees along Coulter Boulevard shall be preserved and guaranteed by the
... applicant. Where trees need to be removed for entrances, they must be replaced elsewhere
along Coulter Boulevard. Protective tree fencing shall be installed around all boulevard trees
prior to any grading activity. No landscaping or berming shall be placed within Stone Creek
.- Drive right-of-way.
7. The developer shall supply the City with a detailed haul route for review and approval by
— staff for materials imported to or exported from the site. If the material is proposed to be
hauled off-site to another location in Chanhassen, that property owner will be required to
obtain an earthwork permit from the City
8. All ponding basin side slopes shall be 4:1 overall or 3:1 with a 10:1 bench at the normal
water elevation. Consideration for maintenance access shall also be incorporated into the
~- design.
9. The public street and utility improvements throughout the development will require detailed
—
construction plans and specifications in accordance with the City's latest edition of standard
specifications and detail plates. Final construction plans and specifications shall be
submitted to staff for review and City Council approval a minimum of three weeks prior to
final plat consideration. The private utilities shall also be constructed in accordance with
City's Standard Specifications and Detail Plates and/or state plumbing codes.
10. The developer will be required to enter into a PUD Agreement/Development Contract with
the City and provide the necessary financial security to guarantee utility and street
— construction as well as the final plat conditions of approval.
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11. The proposed wet tap on the watermain near the trail in the southeasterly corner of the site
shall be relocated to avoid interference with the existing trail. —
12. The City's standards for boulevard street lighting shall be incorporated in the public portion
of the street improvements.
13. The developer shall notify the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) regarding
—
amendment to the existing floor plain boundary. The developer will be responsible for
providing FEMA the necessary documentation to have the Federal Flood Plain maps changed
to reflect developed conditions. _
14. The developer shall work with MnDOT in coordinating site grading and access to the site to
be compatible with MnDOT's upgrading of Trunk Highway 5 construction plans. In _
addition, the developer shall coordinate the adjustment, relocation, and cost of the power
lines with MnDOT.
15. The developer shall dedicate on the final plat public drainage and utility easements over the
existing and proposed utilities and drainageways (creeks).
16. No building shall be permitted to encroach upon drainage or utility easements or impede
access to perform maintenance functions to the utility system.
17. Individual driveway access points as well as sidewalks/crosswalks along Stone Creek Drive
shall be re-evaluated with the individual site plans. There are numerous access points onto
Stone Creek Drive which staff believes can be reduced and spaced further apart to improve —
and minimize turning movements into the site. It may also be appropriate to construct
sidewalks on both sides of Stone Creek Drive to direct pedestrian traffic to a safe crossing
point along Stone Creek Drive. —
18. Depending on MnDOT's construction schedule and phasing of this project, the right-in/right-
out access onto Trunk Highway 5 may have to be constructed by the developer. Security
and/or language in the development contract will be required to guarantee construction of the
right-in/right-out access and right turn lanes on Trunk Highway 5.
19. Grading, drainage, and erosion control plan needs to be revised in accordance with the City's
Best Management Practice Handbook. Erosion control fence needs to be added throughout
—
the site. Type III erosion control fence shall be installed adjacent to the wetlands, creeks at
the base of slopes in areas exceeding 3:1 slopes. The plans should also include temporary
sediment basins to accommodate site runoff during the grading operation. Additional erosion —
control fence will be required adjacent to the pond once the pond has been constructed.
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April 1, 1998
Page 28
20. Upon completion, the developer shall dedicate to the City the utility and street improvements
within the public right-of-way and drainage and utility easements for permanent ownership.
21. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored with seed
and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of completion of each activity
"" in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
22. Wetland buffer areas shall be surveyed and staked in accordance with the City's wetland
ordinance. The City will install wetland buffer edge signs before accepting the utilities and will
charge the developer$20 per sign. Wetland buffer areas shall be surveyed and staked in
accordance with the City's wetland ordinance. The City will provide wetland buffer edge signs
and charge the developer$20 per sign. The developer shall verify the location of these signs
with the City's Water Resources Coordinator and shall install these signs before the utilities are
bow accepted.
23. The developer shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations for 10-year and 100-year storm
events and provide ponding calculations for stormwater quality/quantity ponds in accordance
with the City's Surface Water Management Plan for the City Engineer to review and approve.
The developer shall provide detailed pre-developed and post developed stormwater calculations
•— for 100-year storm events and normal water level and high water level calculations in existing
basins,created basins,and or creeks. Individual storm sewer calculations between each catch
basin segment will also be required to determine if sufficient catch basins are being utilized. In
addition, water quality ponding design calculations shall be based on Walker's Pondnet model.
24. The developer will meet wetland rules and regulations as stated in Corps of Engineers section
404 permit,the State Wetland Conservation Act,and the City's Wetland Ordinance. Mitigation
work shall be implemented prior to or concurrent with wetland fill activity in all phases of the
project.
25. The developer shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies, i.e.
Carver County,Watershed District,Metropolitan Waste Control Commission, Health
Department,Minnesota Pollution Control Agency,Minnesota Department of Natural
Resources,Army Corps of Engineers and Minnesota Department of Transportation and comply
with their conditions of approval.
26. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles found during
Iron
construction and shall relocate or abandon the drain tile as directed by the City Engineer."
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ATTACHMENTS
1. Development Review Application
2. Reduced Copy of Preliminary Plat
3. Reduced Copy of Preliminary Site Plan
4. P.U.D. Narrative Bluff Creek Corporate Center 2/27/98
5. Memo for Steve Edwards to Liv Homeland dated 2/27/98
6. Church Size and Parking Changes from Previous Submittal
7. Comparison of Estimated Taxes Generated with Changes in Use
8. Memo from James Benshoof& Michael Chen to Liv Homeland dated 3/25/98
9. Memo from Steve Kirchman to Bob Generous dated 3/20/98
10. Memo from Mark Littfin to Robert Generous dated 3/17/98
11. Appendix C - Bluff Creek Environmental Corridor Common Plant Species and Natural
Communities
12. Notice of Public Hearing and Mailing List
13. Letter from Robert Huffman to Robert Generous dated 3/11/98
14. City Council Minutes of 1/12/98
15. Letter from Lisa Christianson to Robert Generous dated 12/1/97 (from Conceptual Review)
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
_ 690 COULTER DRIVE
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
(612) 937-1900
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION
hrPL1CANT: Land Group , Inc . OWNER: Bluff Creek Partners
I CRESS: 123 North Third Street ADDRESS: 123 North Third Street
Minneapolis , MN 55401 Minneapolis , MN 55401
LEPHONE(Day time) 3 3 3-2 2 4 4 TELEPHONE:
Comprehensive Plan Amendment
Temporary Sales Permit
X X Conditional Use Permit $4 0 0 _ Vacation of ROW/Easements
Interim Use Permit _ Variance
Non-conforming Use Permit X Wetland Alteration Permit $275
X Planned Unit Development' $750 _ Zoning Appeal
X Rezoning _ Zoning Ordinance Amendment
Sign Permits
Sign Plan Review X Notification Sign $150
Site Plan Review* X Escrow for Filing Fees/Attorney Cost"
($50 CUP/SPRNACNAR/WAP/Metes
and Bounds, $400 Minor SUB)
X X Subdivision' five lots $47 5 TOTAL FEE$ 1,175
ADD ' L FEES 875 (XX 2/27 /98 )
A list of all property owners within 500 feet of the boundaries of the property must be included with the
application.
Building material samples must be submitted with site plan reviews.
'Twenty-six full size folded copies of the plans must be submitted, including an 81/2' X 11" reduced copy of
transparency for each plan sheet.
-*Escrow will be required for other applications through the development contract
r1b7E-When multiple applications are processed,the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application.
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P.U.D NARRATIVE
BLUFF CREEK CORPORATE CENTER
February 27, 1998
INTRODUCTION: —
This narrative and the following guidelines are developed to provide a standard of quality and
appearance to this project. The goal is to enhance this property with a cohesive development
which is perceived as a single neighborhood, yet is flexible enough to provide visual interest
between types of uses and between buildings.
The Bluff Creek Corporate Center development is a mixed-use project consisting of a campus of
office, office/warehouse buildings and a church. The site planning takes advantage of Highway _
5 visibility as well as the creeks on each side of the site. . The office buildings and
office/warehouse buildings are situated close to Highway 5 and to Coulter Boulevard to form a
strong edge consistent with the corridor study guidelines. The church setting sits dramatically on
the hill overlooking a pond with excellent exposure to Highway 5
In keeping with the Highway 5 corridor study, the landscaping and architecture will reflect the —
quality and intention of the guidelines. Rich masonry materials and architectural detailing will
reflect in the facades that form a strong edge along Highway 5 and Coulter. Extensive
landscaping and continuous trail systems will provide a pedestrian friendly environment within
the site. The north and southwest elevations offer window and architectural opportunity for a
front door image at all exposures. Service areas have been minimized and are screened on the _
creek side with an existing tree buffer. Parking areas are broken into small groupings separated
by large landscaped islands and terraced to handle grade changes.
The parking counts indicated on the plans reflect cross-over parking to minimize large expanses
of parking. The compatibility of off-peak usage between the church hours and those of the office
and office/warehouse building operation allows for this design. The church has 208 stalls to
handle the congregation during the week. On weekends and evenings the church will have the
use of shared parking with the office and warehouse buildings. 153 of the church's parking stalls
are within a 400 foot radius of the office and office/warehouse buildings and are available for
their use. The office/warehouse parking reflects 50% office and 50% warehouse based on
market predictions. —
Primary access to the site is from Coulter Boulevard with secondary access from the west from
Highway 5. The main entry from Coulter Boulevard aligns with Stone Creek Drive and features
special landscaping. Another access is provide for the convenience of the church to the west
P.U.D. NARRATIVE
Bluff Creed Corporate Center
Page 2
along Coulter. Circulation through the site is provided by public street, Stone Creek Drive,
which serves all buildings. Access from Highway 5 will be from the previously MNDOT
approved right-in and right-out on Highway 5, which was already in place when the land was
purchased by the developers. Stone Creek Drive running through the site is a continuation of
existing Stone Creek Drive extending from the south of Coulter Boulevard. Its extension
through this site was previously approved by Council in 1996 as a public roadway, along with
the right-in, right-out access on Highway 5. MNDOT is currently designing Highway 5 and a
70' wide green area would be provided between future shoulder of eastbound T.H.5 and the
proposed parking lot. Along Coulter Boulevard, land is to be dedicated for roadway on the south
border of site
The setbacks along Bluff Creek are proposed at 100' versus the width shown in the Management
Plan. The 100' setback matches that provided for the Townhouses at the Creekside project on the
south side of Coulter Boulevard. A reduction in the creek setback to 80' is proposed at one
location in the northeast corner of the site. Landscaping and plantings to enhance the creek
corridor are proposed.
There is an existing powerline that runs through the center of the site. When MNDOT expands
Highway 5, two poles in the north center and northwest corner of the site will be taken down and
relocated. We are asking the City to specify that single metal poles be used as replacement rather
than existing old wooden poles to ensure a quality image for the development. We believe
MNDOT should bear the entire cost of the poles and rerouting fees. It is possible, in order to
maximize the development potential of the site, that the powerline should be rerouted beginning
with the center of the site and angling over to the northwest corner. In such event, only one new
pole would be needed along Highway 5. In such case, the pole in the center of the site will also
be affected and we believe MNDOT should thus bear the cost of both poles. It is uncertain how
this pole replacement necessitated by MNDOT's expansion of Highway 5 will affect the lines to
the south of Coulter Boulevard.
Ponding has been accomplished on site entirely within the flood plain as requested. The existing
wetland, 845 sq. ft. in average, in the northern part of our site will be filled for a proposed
parking lot as the wetland alteration area is less than the deminimis area of 2,000 sq. ft. The
proposed storm water pond would also provide wetland mitigation credits. As an off-set to
development costs, including infra-structure, moving of powerline, soil correction and land costs,
we are requesting a tax increment district be established for such funding.
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MEMORANDUM
to Liv Hornland
Land Group,Inc.
re Addendum to the Previously Submitted Family of Christ Lutheran Church Site
Narrative
project Family of Christ Lutheran Church '
Chanhassen, MN
file 1915
from Steve Edwins,AIA
date 27 February 1998
The Site Plan for the Family of Christ Lutheran Church is a response to the City's
guidelines for this area,namely:
A. Bluff Creek Watershed Natural Resources Management Plan
(Chanhassen,MN: July 1996)
B. Ordinance No. 212,establishing Highway Corridor Districts,
namely the HC-2 District
C. Ordinance No. 231,for Article XXVI Signs
D. Ordinance No. (draft#4), establishing the Bluff Creek Overlay Corridor —
The Site Plan is the result of concept review by Planning Commission and City Council
and concurrent and subsequent discussions with Chanhassen planning staff. —
It is necessary to emphasis that this is not a flat site,and is quite complex. The elevation
of Highway 5 is higher than portions of the site,particularly north of the Church site. —
Coulter Boulevard dips to a low point at the west fork of Bluff Creek. The development
area slopes downward to the west,to the south and to the east •
The Church location is shown at the north side of Block 1, Lot 1,rather.than proximate
to Coulter Boulevard(as the PUD rules ordain) for reasons that are important for the
success of the church in terms of view, access and growth,and for the best preservation —
of the Bluff Creek Corridor. This is accomplished without sacrificing the requirement to
butler the parking area from Coulter,due to the particular topology of the site.
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Travelers on Coulter cannot easily see the whole parking area above, given its height and
the landscaped slopes.
The proposed north location for the church building allows its classroom and meeting
spaces to partake in the scenic creek and pond view at both floor levels, while the
building hides the main church parking area from view to the Highway 5 travelers, who
will be looking down toward this site. Thus, with travelers seeing the creek, pond, prairie
plantings, new creek embankment landscaping, trail way, church yard, and the masonry
building form behind, both the appropriate visibility of the church is created, and the
natural amenities of Bluff Creek are maintained and enhanced.
For the success of the church over the years, this plan allows for good access, parking
and space to grow. With the main entrance on its sunny south face, the walking paths
from parking to the entry are somewhat protected from wintertime winds by the building
itself. Churches today also need outside "social" space near the entrances, which on the
south can be used for a much of the year. In our climate it would be a great mistake to
place the entry facing north with unfriendly shaded entry walks a constant ice problem.
The church needs a long drop-off area to facilitate users during the week and for the
great flow of people each Sunday. This area needs to be almost level, and run the length
of the building, as is possible with the slope down to the west. This also provides fire
equipment access. The parking slopes to drain away from the entrance and building.
Space for growth is shown in two directions. To the west of the cenral core, the church
expects to expand its two level educational and child-care facilities toward Bluff Creek.
The building turns and has a smaller scale massing here. These are rooms with windows
benefitting from the natural vista to the west and the new plantings re-establishing a
"natural" setting. Lower level parking is shown for easy access by parents to a child-care
andlor nursery school program of the church.
On the east side of the central core, space is "land-banked" for a future worship assembly
space and its support facilities. This location places it near a large number of church and
shared parking spaces on three sides.
I low does this design for church and parking respond to,the guidelines, better than other
previous or other plans would? We propose that the "rules" for the site are being
followed as far as intent, yet with competing forces kept in balance In Summary then:
1. Travelers along Coulter see the landscape open laterally at Bluff Creek, without
imposition of structures near the Creek. Not only is building structure and parking
kept more than 100 feet from the creek centerline as required, the basic land form
of the hillside is respected, so the newly planted landscaping can have its intended
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effect. A small parking area at the west follows the contours, and is a shared benefit
to the church and those visiting the Creek area.
2. A southwest driveway curves upward to the Church, with parking masked, for the
most part, by landscaped slopes. The resulting landform will have a more natural _
character than if made efficiently rectilinear. Parking is purposely, and necessarily,
held back from Coulter near the southwest driveway to maintain natural looking
slopes and a view of the Bluff Creek area for west bound travelers. _.
3. The landscape plan accomplishes both required screening and the re-establishment
of native vegetation along the Bluff Creek Corridor. Trees are situated for a _
continuity of"woods" along the Creek, set up framed views, yet allow necessary
visibility of the church and for safe driveway use at Coulter. The climax tree species
of the Big Woods are utilized along the creek. A number of pine species are used as _
required for screening along Coulter. Prairie grasses follow the slopes in the Creek
Corridor, with marsh/wetland varieties surrounding the new retention pond north of
the Church. Within the site, landscaped islands with trees break up the parking and _
provide shading of the pavements and parked cars..
4 Pedestrian and bicycle access is encouraged with continuity among sidewalks and
the creek side trail and access trails. Similarly sidewalks lead through shared
parking to both Church and the other facilities to the east.
5 Parking is designed for shared use. The eastern-most upper parking benefits the
weekday office activities east of the new north-south road and to the north. With the
re-alignment of the new drive further west than in the approved concept plan, more
of the parking is now directly accessible to these offices and oftice/warehouse
developments. The church parking has a short-cut to the north and at the southeast
for easier access between parking areas for vehicles and walking.
In conclusion, by locating the church on the north section of the Church's "pennisula",
the church's needs are better served, while the community is also served by avoiding a
building which might loom over Coulter and possibly detract from the landscape
intentions of the Bluff Creek Corridor. The plan achieves an appropriate balance between
the objectives of shared use of the site as a PUD development with its semi-urban,
pedestrian friendly design objectives, and the needs to re-establish a natural waterway
and trail corridor.
end of Addendum
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CHURCH LAND SIZE AND PARKING
CHANGES FROM PREVIOUS SUBMITTAL
Bluff Creek Corporate Center
February 27, 1998
Previous Current Net
Submittal Submittal Change
Size of Church Land Parcel Reduced: 6.9 Acres 5.77 Acres - 1.13 Acres
Increased Office & Warehouse Parking: 439Spaces 528 Spaces +89 Spaces
Reduced Church Parking : 214 Spaces 208 Spaces -6 Spaces
(Parking reduced along east side
by Stone Creek Drive and
added in southeast corner)
CHURCH PARKING ALLOCATED FOR USE BY OTHER BUILDINGS OUT OF A
TOTAL OF 208 SPACES: 153 Spaces
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COMPARISON OF ESTIMATED TAXES
GENERATED WITH CHANGES IN USE
Bluff Creek Corporate Center
February 27, 1998
Taxes Per Year
ESTIMATED TAXES GENERATED BY CURRENT PLAN: S 290,960
83,000 square feet of Office
100,000 square feet of Office/Warehouse
IF ALL OFFICE(excluding church site): S 419,300
183,000 sf Office
IF ALL OFFICE/WAREHOUSE (excluding church site): S 153,236
153,000 sf* Office/Warehouse
IF OFFICE/WAREHOUSE ON CHURCH SITE: $ 36,856
38,000 sf Office/Warehouse Building
(based on 120 available parking stalls).
Assumptions: Office/Warehouse Buildings assumed to be 50%office and 50% warehouse. Value of
OfclWhse Buildings assumed to he S22/sf. Value of Office Buildings assumed to be $50/sf.
First S100,000 of value assessed at 3%, balance at 4.6%.
*Note: Less square footage can he developed on the site since office warehouse is all single story.
Also, the topography of the site does not lend itself well to large single level building footprints.
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- BENSHOOF & ASSOCIATES, INC.
TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS AND PLANNERS
7301 OHMS LANE, SUITE 500/EDINA, MN 55439/(612) 832-9858/FAX (612) 832-9564
March 25, 1998 Refer to File: 96-60
MEMORANDUM
TO: Liv Homeland, Land Group, Inc.
FROM: James A. Benshodf&Michael H. Chen'
RE: Traffic Impact Analysis Results for Bluff Creek Corporate Center Right Turn
Access on T.H. 5 in the City of Chanhassen
PURPOSE
As requested by the Land Group Company, this memorandum presents the results of our
detailed traffic review for the T.H. 5 right turn access planned in conjunction with the Bluff
Creek Corporate Center located in the City of Chanhassen, Minnesota.
The analysis year for this development traffic study has been set at 2001. The Bluff Creek
— development is expected to be completed in the year 2000 and the analysis examines the
impacts one year after completion, which is consistent with State environmental regulations.
The analysis addresses traffic implications of the Bluff Creek development's right turn access
onto T.H. 5 during the a.m. and p.m. peak hours, the time when volumes generated by both the
development and T.H. 5 are at their highest.
In order to accomplish this year 2001 traffic analysis, we have accomplished the following
work tasks:
1. Collection of background data. Information was collected from Mn/DOT, City of
Chanhassen, Land Group Development Company, and actual field observations.
2. Development of Traffic Forecasts. Traffic forecasts were developed to account for
the new Bluff Creek Corporate Center and other trips that would use the proposed
right turn access. Turn movement projections were developed for the proposed T.H. 5
right turn in/out access for the a.m. and the p.m. peak hours.
3 Traffic Analysis. An analysis of the T.H. 5 right turn access onto the Bluff Creek
Corporate Center site was performed to determine both the operational characteristics
of the access and the traffic impacts during the a.m. and p.m. peak hours on both T.H.
5 and the extension of Stone Creek Drive.
4. Conclusions. Based on this analysis, a series of conclusions and recommendations
have been developed.
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Ms. Liv Homeland -2- March 25, 1998 —
BACKGROUND INFORMATION
This section examines the proposed development's location and its principal characteristics. It
is followed by an examination of existing road conditions along T.H. 5 to the north of the
development site and a description of the expected improvements to T.H. 5.
Development Location and DgscrintiQn
The proposed Bluff Creek Corporate Center is located immediately south of T.H. 5 and north
of Coulter Boulevard in the City of Chanhassen. The site is approximately 1,500 feet east of
Gilpin Blvd. and 2,400 feet west of Audubon Road as shown in Figure 1. Figure 1 also shows
the location of some adjacent developments that are expected to generate some trips using the
subject right turn access on T.H. 5.
The Bluff Creek Corporate Center is comprised of two office buildings (39,000 and 44,000 sq,
ft.), two mixed use office/warehouse developments (38,000 and 62,000 sq. ft.) and a church
(20,000 sq. ft. expanding to 60,000 sq. ft. sometime between the years 2001 and 2010). The
development is proposed to have its main access on the north side of the Stone Creek Drive
and Coulter Boulevard intersection. The development has proposed that the existing Stone
Creek Drive be extended from Coulter Blvd. north to T.H. 5 through the Bluff Creek
development site. All the development access points on Coulter Blvd and the proposed Stone
Creek Drive extension are expected to be full access driveways. The Stone Creek Drive
intersection with T.H. 5 will be restricted to right in/right out movements.
Existing_Charmcteria k
The primary roadway examined in this analysis is T.H. 5 between Galpin Blvd. and Audubon —
Road. This road is presently a two lane undivided A Minor Arterial facility with a daily traffic
volume of about 30,500 vehicles. As built drawings for T.H. 5 show two 12 feet wide travel
lanes and a paved 10 feet wide shoulder on each side.
Immediately to the west of the development site is the Bluff Creek Elementary School and a
Recreation Center. To the south of the development on Stone Creek Drive, there are multi-
family and single family residential homes. These developments are all expected to contribute
a certain portion of traffic onto the proposed Stone Creek Drive extension to T.H. 5.
Future Roadway Improvement$
Mn/DOT will be improving the segment of T,H. 5 between Galpin Blvd. and Audubon Road
from the existing two lane facility to a four lane divided facility. This improvement is expected
to be completed in the year 2001.
As mentioned previously, Stone Creek Drive south of Coulter Blvd. is expected to be extended
north to T.H. 5 through the Bluff Creek development site by the year 2000, The actual Stone
Creek Drive access to T.H. 5 is expected to be open commensurate with the initial phase of the
Bluff Creek development.
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Ms. Liv Homeland -4- March 25, 1998 —
TRAFFIC FORECASTS -
There are two distinct components in the development of traffic forecasts for this project. The
first component examines the vehicle volumes to be generated by uses in the Bluff Creek
Corporate Center. The second component examines the trips that are generated by the
adjacent Iand uses and how they would impact the proposed T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive right
turn access.
Traffic Counts _
Daily traffic count information was obtained from the Mn/DOT which showed a 1997 average
daily traffic volume of approximately 30,500 vehicles on T.H. 5. Peak hour vehicle counts in _
both the a.m. and p.m. peak hours show approximately 1,337 and 1,355 eastbound vehicles,
respectively.
Trip Generation
The trip generation rates used for the Bluff Creek Corporate Center development are based on
established data published by the Institute of Transportation Engineers (ITE) and other local
sources. The resultant trip generation rates for the new development and for the adjacent land
uses are shown in Table 1. —
Table 1
Trip Generation Rates for Different Development Components and Adjacent Land Uses
Development Land Uses Trip Rate Unit Trip Generation Rate
A.M. Peak Hour P.M. Peak Hour
Church Per 1,000 sq. ft. 0.72 0.66
Office Per 1,000 sq ft. 1.56 1.49 _
Warehouse Per 1,000 sq. ft. _ 0.51 0.59
Adjacent Land Uses
School ! Per student 0.28 0.24
Recreation Center Per 1,000 sq. ft. 1.32 1.75 _
Single Family Residential Per Dwelling Unit 0.75 1.01
Multi-Family Residential Per Dwellin&Unit 0.44 0.54
1 _
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Ms. Liv Homeland -5- March 25, 1998
For the mixed use office/warehouse developments, 50% of the floor area is assigned to each
land use. Table 2 shows the resultant a.m. and p.m. peak hour trip generation projections.
Table 2
Trips Generated By Bluff Creek Corporate Center Development in
A.M. & P.M. Peak Hours
Development Size Trips Generated in A.M. Trips Generated in P.M.
Component Peak Hour Peak Hour
Inbound Outbound Inbound Outbound
_ Church ' 20,000 s.f._ 8 6 I 7 6
Office #144,000 s.f. 60 8 12 54
Office #2 39,000 s.f. 54 6 10 48
_ Mixed use#1
Office 19,000 s.f. i 26 4 5 23
Warehouse 19,000 s.f. 7 3 4 _ 7
- Mixed use #2
Office 31,000 s.f. 43 . 1 5 8 38
Warehouse 31,000 s.f. I 11 5 6 12
Total 209 37 52 188
Trip Distribution and AssiQnm pj
The vehicle trips generated by the proposed Bluff Creek Corporate Center development were
assigned to the nearby roadways based on a distribution pattern of 10% north, 25% south,
50% east, and 15% west. These figures were determined by examining the population density
in the Chanhassen area and through discussions with Land Group to determine the area
serviced by the development.
Post-Development Trip Forecasts
- A key component in determining the post-development volumes that would use the T.H. 5 /
Stone Creek Drive access is the effect of the developments that are adjacent to the Bluff Creek
Corporate Center site, as shown in Figure 1 For each of these other developments, its effects
- in terms of contributing traffic at the T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive intersection were determined
through the following steps: 1) quantifying the size of the development, 2) projecting its total
trip generation, and 3) determining the portion of trips that would use the subject right turn
access. The results are described next for each particular use.
• Bluff Creek Elementary School - The school is directly adjacent to Galpin BIvd. It will
add eight northbound right turns in the morning peak hour to the Stone Creek Drive access
onto T.H. 5 and 12 northbound right turns in the afternoon peak hour.
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• Recreation Center- Given the proximity of the recreation center to Galpin Blvd. and Stone
Creek Drive access, this facility will add one northbound right turn in the morning peak
hour at the T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive access and four northbound right turns in the -
afternoon peak hour.
• Multi-Family Residential - The 25 multi-family residential units to the south of the
development on Stone Creek Drive will add six northbound right turns in the morning peak
hour to the T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive access, with two eastbound and three northbound _
right turns in the afternoon peak hour.
• Single Family Residential #1 - This area comprises 45 dwelling units to the south of the -
Bluff Creek Corporate Center development on Stone Creek Drive. These dwelling units
will add two eastbound and nine northbound right turns in the morning peak hour to the
T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive access, with five eastbound and five northbound right turns in _
the afternoon peak hour.
• Single Family Residential #2 - This area comprises 23 dwelling units in the southwest
portion of Stone Creek Drive. These homes will add three northbound right turns in the
morning peak hour to the T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive access and three northbound right
turns in the afternoon peak hour.
The resulting year 2001 post-development a.m. and p m. peak hour turning movement volumes
are shown in Figure 2 for the T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive right turn in/out access. The
background growth rate for the volume on T.H. 5 used for these year 2001 forecasts was
assumed to be 3% per year.
TRAFFIC ANALYSIS -
The analysis results and design considerations are presented next for the critical issues
addressed in this study. The issues examined are listed as follows:
• Levels of Service at Stone Creek Drive Right Turn Access on T.H. 5
• T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive Right Turn Access Design Considerations
Levels of Service Stone Creek Drive Right Turn Access on T.H. 5
The Highway Capacity Software program was used to analyze some capacity aspects of the
T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive access. Level of service A refers to an operational condition with
little delay where as level of service F refers to a condition where long delays can be expected.
Intersections and roadways are designed to provide a level of service D or better.
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Analyses were completed for two scenarios; the existing two lane operation on T.H. 5 and the
four lane operation on T.H. 5 expected by the year 2001. The level of service results for these
two scenarios are presented next:
• Two Lane T.H. 5 Operation - The traffic signal at the Galpin Blvd. / T.H. 5 intersection
will create gaps in the T.H. 5 eastbound traffic that will improve the operation of the Stone
Creek Drive access. During both the a.m. and p.m. peak hours, the eastbound right turn is
expected to operate at LOS B. The northbound right turn is expected to operate at LOS D
during these two peak hour periods.
It is important to note that these results are based on the year 2001 traffic projections. The
stated LOS D operation for the northbound right turn movement would only be valid for
the years 2000 to 2001 when the development is fully completed and prior to the
completion of improvements on T.H. 5. Since the development is expected to be
constructed in several phases, the northbound right turn volume will actually be lower
during this interim period and operate at LOS C or better at all times.
• Four Lane T.H. 5 Operation - During both a.m. and p.m. peak hours, the eastbound right
turn operates at LOS A and northbound right turn operates at LOS B. There is an
improvement in the level of service especially for the northbound right turn movement
because T.H. 5 would be improved to a four lane facility. The two eastbound lanes create
more opportunities for northbound right turns to access T.H. 5 from Stone Creek Drive
because the vehicle volume along T.H. 5 would be spread to two Ianes.
LE, 5 / Stone Creek Drive Rizht Turn Accels Desien Consideration"
Discussions were conducted with several Mn/DOT staff regarding the operation of other
existing right turn access locations that are similar to the proposed Stone Creek Drive access
onto T.H. 5. Two similar right turn accesses are located on T.H. 41 south of T.H. 5 in
Chaska. Trunk Highway 41 is a two lane facility at these locations and the speed limit is 55
mph. The first location accesses the Chaska Commons development on the east side of the
highway, and the second location accesses the Jonathan Square development on the west side. -
Both locations use a raised asphalt center island design on the approach to T.H. 41 to properly
channelize the right turn movements in and out of the development site. The raised islands are
marked with small white plastic bollards running along the edge of the island. There are signs
on both T.H. 41 and the development sites that prohibit left turns.
Stop signs control vehicles accessing T.H. 41 from these developments. Vehicles entering
T.H 41 are positioned at an angle that make potential illegal left turn onto T.H 41 awkward.
Similarly, vehicles attempting to turn Ieft from T.H. 41 into these developments are faced with
an equally awkward movement.
Mn/DOT staff has noted that these two right turn only locations function well. These access
locations have not been identified as safety problem locations.
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Ms. Liv Homeland -9- March 25, 1998
CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS
From the information presented in this report, we have developed the following conclusions
and recommendations:
• The proposed T.H. 5 / Stone Creek Drive right turn access would be the only access
point on the south side of T.H. 5 between Audubon Road and Galpin Blvd., a total
distance of 3,900 feet. Stone Creek Drive would be located about 1,500 feet from
Galpin Blvd. and 2,400 feet from Audubon Road. These access spacing dimensions
conform with Mn/DOT's access management practices.
• Prior to the completion of the T.H. 5 widening to a four lane divided facility in the year
_ 2001, the northbound right turn movements at the Stone Creek Drive right turn access
onto T.H. 5 will operate at a level of service D during both the a.m. and p.m. peak
hours. This LOS D operation will occur at the completion of the Bluff Creek
_ Corporate Center development in the year 2000. Since the Bluff Creek Corporate
Center is developed in several phases, the critical northbound right turn movement
from Stone Creek Drive onto T.H. 5 will operate at LOS C or better in both the a.m.
and p.m. peak hours until the development is completed in the year 2000.
• With the completion of the T.H. 5 widening to a four lane divided facility in the year
2001, the critical northbound right turn movements at the Stone Creek Drive access
onto T.H. 5 will operate at a LOS B or better at all times.
• The right turn access designs used along T.H. 41 in Chaska at the Chaska Commons
development and the Jonathan Square development are similar to the proposed Stone
Creek Drive access on T.H. 5. Both T.H. 5 and T.H. 41 presently are two lane
highways with 55 mph speed limits. Mn/DOT staff will be required to decide on the
exact design specifications for the construction of the Stone Creek Drive right turn
access onto T.H. 5. Mn/DOT's design specifications for this type of access may
include the construction of a deceleration lane along T.H. 5.
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CITY OF
CHANHASSEN MEMORANDUM
690 City Center Drive,PO Box 147 TO: Bob Generous,Senior Planner
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317 A. q.1(
Phone 612.937.1900
FROM: Steve A.Kirchman,Building Official
General Fax 612.937.5739 DATE: March 20, 1998
Engineering Fax 612.937.9152
Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524 SUBJECT: 97-2 PUD (Bluff Creek Corporate Center, Land Group, Inc. and Bluff Creek
tt'eb www.ci.chanhassen.inn.us Partners)
I was asked to review the variance proposal stamped "CITY OF CHANHASSEN, RECEIVED, MAR
0 2 19 9 8, CHANHASSEN PLANNING DEPT." for the above referenced project.
I have no comments or recommendations concerning this application at this time.
I would like to request that you relay to the developers and designers my desire to meet with them
as early as possible to discuss commercial building permit requirements.
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The City of Chanhassen.A rowing community with clean lakes,quality schools,a charming downtown,thriving businesses,and beautiful parks.A great place to live,work,and ay.
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CITY OF
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CHANHASSFN
690 City Center Drive,PO Box 147
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317 MEMORANDUM
Phone 612937.1900
TO: Robert Generous, Senior Planner
General Fax 612937.5739
LEh16I2.93z9lS2 FROM: Mark Littfin, Fire Marshal
Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524
Web wwucci.chanhassen.mn.us DATE: March 17, 1998
SUBJ: Request for rezoning from A2, Agricultural Estate PUD;
Preliminary PUD and plat approval for three lots and one
outlot and for an office industrial project which would permit
a church/institutional use on property located south of Highway
5 and north of Coulter Boulevard at Stone Creek Drive on 27.3
acres, Land Group, Inc. and Bluff Creek Partners, Bluff Creek
Corporate Center.
Planning Case 97-2 PUD.
I have reviewed the request for rezoning for the above project. In order to
comply with the Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention Division,I have
the following fire code or city ordinance/policy requirements. The site plan is
based on the available information submitted at this time. If additional plans or
changes are submitted,the appropriate code or policy items will be addressed.
1. No comments at this time.
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PLANNING COMMISSION ,•miumito
Wednesday April 1, 1998 � ''•. ••"'''�•rsan
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SUBJECT: Rezoning and Preliminary PUD nu,,,
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- NOTICE: You are invited to attend a public hearing about a proposal in your area. The applicant,
Bluff Creek Partners, is requesting rezoning from A-2, Agricultural Estate to PUD; Preliminary PUD
and plat approval for 3 lots and one outlot and for an office industrial project which would permit
a church/institutional use on property located south of Hwy. 5 and north of Coulter Bouelvard at
Stone Creek Drive on 27.3 acres, Land Group Inc. and Bluff Creek Partners, Bluff Creek Corporate
Center.
What Happens at the Meeting: The purpose of this public hearing is to inform you about the
developer's request and to obtain input from the neighborhood about this project. During the
— meeting, the Commission Chair will lead the public hearing through the following steps:
1 . Staff will give an overview of the proposed project.
— 2. The Developer will present plans on the project.
3. Comments are received from the public.
4. Public hearing is closed and the Commission discusses project. The commission will then
make a recommendation to the City Council.
— Questions and Comments: If you want to see the plans before the meeting, please stop by City
Hall during office hours, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. If you wish to talk to
someone about this project, please contact Bob at 937-1900 ext. 141. If you choose to
— submit written comments, it is helpful to have one copy to the department in advance of the meeting.
Staff will provide copies to the Commission.
— Notice of this public hearing has been published in the Chanhassen Villager on March 19. 1998.
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HERITAGE DEVELOPMENT OF MN INC
450 CO RD D EAST
LITTLE CANADA, MN 55117
RICHARD D FRASCH -
8000 ACORN LANE
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
MARK FOSTER
8020 ACORN LANE
CHANHASSEN,MN 55317
MGN; CONSTRUCTION INC.
450 EAST 00 RD
LITTLE CANADA, MN 55117
PILLSBURY BAKERIES/FOOD SERVICE
8000 AUDUBON
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INC -
15 CHOCTAW CIRCLE
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317-9505
SHAMROCK PROP PARTNERS
7350 COMMERCE LANE -
MINNEAPOLIS, MN 55432
MICHAEL J GORRA
1680 ARBORETUM BLVD
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317 -
LARRY& BETTY VANDEVEIRE
4980 CTY RD 10 EAST
CHASKA, MN 55318
PAISLEY PARK ENTERPRISES
ACCOUNTANTS 7801 AUDUBON ROAD
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
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RECEIVED
MAR 11 1998 -
minnegascoe CITY OF CHANHASSEN
•
worfit ENERGY COMPANY -
Robert Generous
Chanhassen City of —
690 Coulter Drive,
P.O.Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317 —
Dear Robert:
This letter affirms the ability of Minnegasco to provide natural gas service in Chanhassen, MN to
the proposed project 97-2 PUD. Please note that the developer must contact our office to _
arrange for commercial service and main line extensions.
Service will be provided under the rules, regulations and tariffs on file at the time of the —
application. If you have any questions or need additional information, please call me at
612-321-5527.
Since , —
Robert Huffman
Sales Associate
City Council Meeting- January 12, 1998
Kate Aanenson: I'll let you know.
Gayle Degler: Okay,and the third question is,this part of Audubon Road is now a city street,right?
Okay. There's only one sign as you're heading north for a speed limit. That says 45 and then there's
another one up further. Coming south,the only speed limit sign is right across from Park Road. Right
south of McGlynn's,so anybody heading south I'm sure has no idea what the speed limit is and with
another access for a resident, I mean I use that access now to get to the field and it's perfectly,well it's
usable. But on the county level,the county has certain distances that you can get access to properties and
I don't know what the city ordinance is,and especially with this speed limit, is a safety concern there.
I'm sure you've looked into it but.
Kate Aanenson: That was one of the concerns we have with the driveway.
OMR
Mayor Mancino: That it has to be so many feet next,or away from another access. And it meets the
requirement?
MEW
Kate Aanenson: Yes.
Gayle Degler: So they can be fairly close because obviously the ones to the south is real close.
Kate Aanenson: The one to the south is already...
Gayle Degler: Yeah,but it does meet... Right,I agree with Mr. Monson that if the trail takes the
existing driveway,there's going to be quite an expense to make another driveway because the incline
gets to be a problem. SO yeah. So those were my major concerns.
Mayor Mancino: Okay,thank you for your comments. Next item on the agenda is number 7 was deleted.
8 was deleted. Number 9.
Kate Aanenson: Can we get a motion to table?
Mayor Mancino: Oh! Do we need to motion to table?
Roger Knutson: So the record is clear what happened tonight. Technically you don't have to but it might
be a good idea just so looking back in years you can say what happened...
Mayor Mancino: Well,I motion that we table request for metes and bounds subdivision of Lot 2, Block
1, Sun Ridge into two lots on property zoned RR,rural residential located at 8850 Audubon Road. Is
there a second?
Councilman Senn: Second.
Mayor Mancino moved,Councilman Senn seconded to table the request for a metes and bounds
subdivision on Lot 2, Block I,Sun Ridge into two lots on property zoned RR,Rural Residential
and located at 8850 Audubon Road. All voted in favor,except Councilman Berquist and
Councilman Mason who opposed,and the motion carried with a vote of 3 to 2.
CONCEPTUAL PUD REQUEST FOR AN OFFICE-INDUSTRIAL PROJECT WHICH WOULD
PERMIT A CHURCH/INSTITUTIONAL USE ON PROPERTY ZONED A2,AGRICULTURAL
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ESTATE AND LOCATED SOUTH OF HWY 5 AND NORTH OF COULTER BOULEVARD AT
STONE CREEK DRIVE ON 27.3 ACRES,LAND GROUP INC.AND BLUFF CREEK
PARTNERS,BLUFF CREEK CORPORATE CENTER.
Bob Generous: The application before you is a conceptual planned unit development. Conceptual
planned unit development allows the developer to flush out the issues regarding the proposed
development to find out what concerns the city has. It also permits the city the opportunity to provide the
developer with direction on how to proceed with their project. Before us is a mixed office industrial park
planned unit development. The number one issue that they want to flush out and provide direction is
whether or not a church facility is appropriate use as part of the planned unit development. Staff believes
that due to the design of the project,the use of shared parking opportunities,that a church facility within
an office industrial park could make,enhance the development. Primarily we evaluated what the
potential use of the site was. We, quick rule of thumb of 30% of the lot be...that could be developed. If
that was the case we would have 190,000 square foot building and use the ratios of office and warehouse
and they would provide 147 parking stalls. We believe that the church facility,because of it's different
hours of businesses and manufacturing can provide those 147 spaces during the week to office and
warehouse and industrial development around them. Our primary concern with designing the project is
that we make the parking,the shared parking areas,more accessible and convenient for the office and
industrial as opposed to just for the church use. This project went before the Planning Commission in
December and they were okay with the use of the church use as part of the facility. Their primary
concern was that this project be designed to preserve the primary corridor within the Bluff Creek
corridor. As part of the discussion about that,the city had been using 100 foot rule of thumb for
determining setbacks. Within the Bluff Creek study we delineated a primary and secondary zone.
However,the city is in the process of developing a Bluff Creek overlay district that provides developers
and property owners an opportunity to more accurately define what this line should be and that can be
done through the study of soil,hydrology,vegetation,topography on the site and so the applicant has
initiated that process and we're...looking at discussing what exactly that line is. The site characteristic, _
the site primarily,rolling topography has been used for agricultural purposes. This development would
preserve the Bluff Creek corridor,both the east and the main branch of the development. We believe that
it can,through proper landscaping,enhance those corridors and create a Bluff Creek corridor that is
consistent with the...of the Bluff Creek study that would provide both the natural area for,and a habitat
area for the creatures in the community. Generally in a concept plan we don't get as far as developing
development standards. However in this one, since I had a proforma available,I provided a draft copy so _
both the developer and the city could provide some comment. This development standards looked
at...the permitted and ancillary use of the property. Various setbacks in the site coverage,building
square footages,building materials, landscaping and screening. We believe that these standards provide
a starting point for this development and would request that the Council look at that and provide us
direction on whether or not the uses should be included or eliminated. As well as... design standards.
...provide a pedestrian walkway or condition... staff is recommending approval of the concept plan and
we have some 30 conditions that we'd like them to address... With that I'd be happy to answer any
questions.
Mayor Mancino: Any questions before the applicant presents from Council?
Councilman Berquist: The plan that you've got on that table, is that the same that's dated...
Kate Aanenson: January 7th.
There was discussion regarding the date on the plans which was not picked up on the tape.
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Bob Generous: Correct. What they is they responded to the Planning Commission and staff comments
and they came and showed how they're addressing them.
Councilman Berquist: What date was it at Planning?
Bob Generous: December 3`d
Councilman Berquist: I'm sorry, say that one more time.
Kate Aanenson: Just to be clear we still have the site plan...
Councilman Berquist: Right.
Mayor Mancino: And our land use plan guides the entire space office industrial, correct?
Bob Generous: Correct.
Mayor Mancino: Is the applicant here and would you like to present? Come up to the podium and state
your name.
Imo Liv Homeland: I'm Liv Homeland from Land Group Inc. We've been working on this project for
approximately two years and did go to Planning Commission with a plan that we felt you know had
merit. And we have been working with Family of Christ Church pretty much through that period of time.
They are here also with some of their members as well to discuss further their site specifically. Okay,
the top then is north along the highway so that helps I think there. We're very pleased to be able to be
before you today. We did meet with the Planning Commission in December and we have changed our
plan substantially in response to staff comments and recommendations which are the 34 points that they
mentioned. Of those 34 points we really are at only two that we have some questions about, but other
than that I think we've either revised all the points that they've discussed or we've agreed to them so I
think that there's only two in that portion that we have,though there may be new considerations because
we have changed the plan. The plan that we had previously worked on was showed more office along the
highway and it was,at that point there was difficulties with the screening. The large buildings were
difficult also,even though that was the market that we were after was more the office warehouse
amm buildings. Warehouse had loading docks,and no matter which way we turned them they were screening
from the wrong directions so we have gone with office. As it turns out, in that period of time we also
have been working with two users now which make office more viable. We're working with a clinic in
Immo the northwest corner that would like to be on that site and that makes, you know very good use for that
property. And we're working with an office,a tenant that is a financial institution that would like to be
part of the office building in the northeast corner. So we have changed our plan accordingly. As part of
that,also the church has been working with us for approximately two years and they've been very
actively involved in the process as developing this for,what they would like to be their new home in
Chanhassen. And we have also,we have spent a great deal of time,we are working actively to provide
the crossover shared parking. I think that's an issue and that's a concern and I think with the heavier
office use, I think that does addresses that better as well. So we have a number of changes that we feel
have been effective. The site itself has a great deal of, is a difficult site. Has a lot of constraints to it.
From the north along Highway 5 we are dealing with the taking,you know there will be some additional
improvements there for Highway 5 as it expands. From Highway 5 to Coulter Boulevard there's a
significant drop. The topography is very difficult on this site. This is another reason why the office
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buildings in the north end work better than the office warehouse because there's a rolling topography and
it actually drops about 40 feet from Highway 5 down to Coulter Boulevard. And this plan will require a —
lot less grading and a lot less massing of parking which was of concern previously as well. In this part.
We're bringing in office users into the site. The north/south road that is shown on the site was
previously approved by Council and was requested by staff and there is a MnDot approved right-in and —
right-out on the highway. In our previous plan that we came to Planning Commission,because we were
trying to do office warehouse,the large buildings,we couldn't fit the north/south road on the site so our
previous plan did away with that but we're trying to retain that MnDot approved access in case that we
should go with office, and we've elected to, we very much want to keep the MnDot approved access
point and the north/south road and therefore office makes more sense for us. There is on this site also is
other constraints. There is a power line running right through the middle and we've pretty much kept the —
road where the power line is. The other constraints are, there's flood plain on the side and then we have
primary creek corridor on the west side towards the school and a secondary corridor on the east side. So
they're two corridors that we're working with as well. I'm going to introduce to you our architect Ron
Krank of KKE Architects and he will go into more detail on the project and overall appearance and what
we are trying to do here and then our engineer as well and the Family of Christ Church thereafter. Thank
you.
Ron Krank: Thank you Liv. Good evening. As Liv has told you, my name is Ron Krank. I'm with KKE
Architects. Our role has not been as much as architect as assisting in the planning of the project and I
thought what I'd like to do is explain a little bit of more background and tell you how we arrived at what
we have. As Liv said, two years ago she came to us and she indicated that Family of Christ Church was
interested in the property and she wanted to accommodate that opportunity and we talked about how that
could happen. At that time the thought was that this would be,the remainder of the site would be office —
warehouse and she was thinking she could continue on with the opportunity and look for users. One
thing that remained constant all the time,the church was very interested and is very interested in that
property and a good team player in helping us get through all the issues of the ponding and the wetlands. —
the creeks n both sides. The access to Highway 5. All of the difficulties on this property and as you can
tell from the staff report, it is a very complex site. There are a lot of engineering issues that dictate many
of the design elements and Ken Adolf of Schoell and Madson will go over that with you. But we feel a —
real commitment to the church. They've been with us this entire two years in working with us and trying
to get the project done. They've been very good in terms of redesigning their building and relaying it out
on this site to accommodate the very topography and where the road was in or out. But we feel, and we —
felt from day one that they were an ideal beginning user on the property. They're a good compatible use
for the school to the west. For the residential to the south. Very quiet, soft use. They don't create noise.
They're off peak use. The traffic is off peak,and of course the opportunity to utilize their parking for the
office building, office warehouse and vice versa made a lot of sense to us. As you may know,we did
many iterations of plans that took all those items into consideration. The reason you see a second plan
today is coincidental with the fact that staff prepared a very thorough report and listed all the elements of
concern. Coincidental with the fact that two users came to the table very,very recently and that being,as
Liv indicated, an office user,medical clinic user actually and a financial institution. So with those two
users we know much more about the site now and can be much clearer to you in the direction the project
is taking. Frankly when we began the project,we put this first set of drawings together, it was a —
guesstimate on our part. We admitted to staff it was conceptual, but we are committed to maintaining the
quality that the Highway 5 corridor study expresses concern about. We know about the need to create
outdoor living room spaces so to speak. Outdoor living areas. We know the need to shield the parking
from the roadways and create as much berming as we can. We're aware of the need to do our best to
create the urban edge. We are aware of the quality that you're looking for with materials and design.
The minimizing of large expanses of walls uninterrupted by texture and windows and detailing. We, I
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know we can do a good job in doing that. We're pleased in that the church is most likely, if you accept
the plan,going to be the first building on this site or at least the first design through to you and they
certainly have indicated a desire to have a very quality building and I'm reluctant to use the word
signature because that sometimes means a very strong design but something well done. That will be the
beginning for what we intend to do with the rest of the property in tying it together with design standards
that would relate to the landscaping. The trails. The lighting standards and so forth. So we're here to
tell you, one we're pleased that staff has given a positive recommendation. Planning Commission has
done so. We're pleased we're able to get to you a revised plan,even though unfortunately it wasn't to
you a long time ago but it takes us time to work through all the issues. So at this point I'd like to turn the
presentation over to Ken Adolf of Schoell and Madson to go through the engineering aspects. Thank
you.
Ken Adolf: Good evening. Again I'm Ken Adolf with Schoell and Madson. I'll quickly review the new
site plan. As was stated, the significant modifications to the site plan was made in response to the
recommendations in the staff report and also with better information being available as far as users. The
significant addition is more south, the public street that passes through this site. This lines up with Stone
Creek Drive on the south end. For orientation, this is Coulter Boulevard. The bridge is right here.
Existing Highway 5. This is Bluff Creek. This is the pond that was created. Then on the east side of the
project is... This area indicates the future eastbound lane of Highway 5. The existing lanes are going to
become westbound lanes. We have stated adjacent to Highway 5...buildings. These are two story office
buildings with the...which provides at grade access to... It also allows making the grade transition with
some grading...west and southwestern site. These are two smaller office warehouse buildings. L shaped
buildings with a shared truck dock area. This allows screening of the truck dock area with the buildings
themselves. It's one of the items that staff...truck dock area and... This is a proposed storm water pond
that would collect the majority of the runoff from the site. Provide some...and rate control... This is a
consolidation of two ponds. The initial plan had a smaller pond in this location and that's been... The
church, the center portion is what... also a two level building with... some future phases proposed. The
shared parking that has been discussed is in the...portion of the church lot. There's 170 parking stalls
that are within 400 feet of these three buildings. That is the parking that is,that shared parking...
Setback issues on the creek first of all on the northeast branch, if I understand the requirement to be is a
100 foot setback from the center line of the creek for structures. We are proposing,this area that...80
feet and additional width be picked up on the east side of the creek. The applicant does control the
property on each side of the creek...square off the creek setback... On Bluff Creek,the initial plan that
was submitted had used that same 100 foot setback criteria. One of the concerns of the Planning
Commission was that the recommendations of the Bluff Creek management study should be utilized.
Since the Planning Commission meeting, the church has been relocated on the site. The previous
building was an L shaped building. ...building in this area. That has all been moved farther to
the...somewhat farther from the creek. We have reviewed the management study and believe that there
are some reasons that there should be flexibility in the width of the creek corridor rather than just
realizing what we're shown in the study. ...have shown here, in the blue line,the...wetland boundary.
Some of that has been changed by the...of this pond. ...original flood plain boundary,and again that was
changed from the earlier pond. What is shown in red here is the approximate primary creek corridor that
was shown in the management study. But in this particular area the elevation of the corridor or into the
corridor... Then in this area,the creek corridor is actually designed where the flood plain is actually...
We feel that there's some questions about where the edge of the corridor should be in this area primarily
because of topography. However the new plan did try to provide some additional separation from.
Regarding the, some additional information on the impact and benefit of the shared parking. This plan is
the same for the entire site with the exception of the church lot. What we have shown here is another
office warehouse building on the church site. 170 stalls of shared parking that are required...parking
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needs of Lots 2,4 and 5 are in this area so the parking needs for this office warehouse building have to be
met in this area. This again is an L shaped office warehouse. We offer some screening of the truck dock —
area which is back in this area. This plan shows a building area of 42,000 square feet which is
significantly smaller than the 108,000 that was included in the staff report. I think one of the reasons . .
why the general rules of thumb as far as building ratios and so forth don't work is because of the —
significant setback requirements from the creek and some other issues. But again if you probably lay this
out somewhat more efficiently and squeeze in more square footage but you get from the 42,000 to the
108 that we'll have to... I should say that these office warehouse buildings are based on 60% office,40% .-
warehouse. Parking needs are calculated on that basis.
Councilman Berquist: May I ask a question? This 49,000...indicating,are you saying that that parking —
adjacent to it would be used for that building as well as the rest of the building? That parking would be
roughly 75%of what you've got...church there. That area there. Is that correct?
Ken Adolf: Right. This parking would be assigned to this... This is really parking then that's necessary
to satisfy the parking requirements of... We tried to utilize the previous plan and then just see what
could be done with the church site. So this.
Mayor Mancino: So you can still get shared parking on it?
Ken Adolf: Well no, there's no shared parking proposed here because you'd have all of the uses would
be using the stalls at the same time.
Councilman Berquist: Well what you're saying is,staff...is 108,000 feet here would really, I mean —
you're questioning 58,000 square feet of it...more feet of parking. Or some ratio that's smaller than that.
Go ahead.
Ken Adolf: Well I was just going to say. I think some of that area's taken up with creek setbacks and so
forth... It's not that you have 58,000 square feet more of parking. You've got some more parking but
you probably... —
Councilman Berquist: All right, sorry. Go ahead. --
Ken Adolf: The point being that as far as the tax impact,basing it on 108,000 we feel is...not
appropriate because...
Mayor Mancino: But that's using the primary zone.
Bob Generous: Yeah, that would...assuming a...with a perfect world that...
Mayor Mancino: Okay.
Ken Adolf: And of any site,this is...probably this site because of the restrictions on the site. Next I'd —
like to address the siting of the church. The church on the previous plan was an L shaped structure,
single level. Staff,one of the items in the staff report recommended looking at a two level church
structure and that's what this is. As I said it walks out to...walks out to the north. The layout works very —
nice. The parking is...with at grade access for the upper level. I'm not sure how it would work to shift
the church to the south. The structure to the south. It, in my mind, would eliminate the ability to do a
walkout on the lower level. As Liv indicated,the design plan...items in the staff recommendations,the
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first few items... some of the items were just standard items. The applicant is agreeing to essentially all
of those items. One of the exceptions is a requirement that the applicant coordinate the storm sewer...
As I said before,we previously had another storm water pond in this area and it was recommended that
we consolidate that,which we have done. By doing that we now need to utilize all of the storage volume
that's available in this pond just for the on site needs so there really isn't any storage volume available...
Further we believe that it's really MnDOT's responsibility to do the coordination and contact the
property owners if they need to acquire some property for their own ponding needs. With that I'll pass
this onto the Family of Christ Lutheran Church representatives. I'm not sure if Jim Sulerud is going to
start.
Jim Sulerud: Hi. I'm Jim Sulerud and we're pleased finally to be before you. I'm on the Building
Committee of Family of Christ Lutheran Church and we want to be respectful of both your time but also
your interest to know what we're about. In that regard, first of all you'll hear from Pastor Nate Castens
about who are church is and some of our history. Following that you'll hear from SMSQ, Steve Edwins,
our architect and he can get into some more detail. It sounds like there's some staff concern about where
the church is on the site. And then following that we can, I'll be glad to have with you a discussion about
some of our siting issues. Where we looked. Other places. Concerns about how does a church fit here.
What our past couple of years of history on that issue has been. Nate.
Nate Castens: Good evening. I'm Nate Castens. I'm a resident of this community on North Erie Avenue
and one of the Pastors of Family of Christ Lutheran Church. I'm pleased to be here, not to introduce our
church to you but to really bring you up to date on where we are, and think that it could be helpful in our
conversation to do some talking with you specifically about our relationship in the community. In
reference to our being corporate citizens in the city of Chanhassen and I'll really begin by doing some
conversation about our background and our history. We started in 1980 on Easter Sunday. Our first
worship service being in historic Old St. Hubert's church. 9 years after that and 9 years ago, we moved
into our current building on Lake Drive East on Christmas Eve. In the last 5 years, really in the last 7 or
8 years we have been growing considerably as a congregation but in the last 5 years in particular our
membership has grown by 46%. Our average weekend worship attendance is around 500. Every year for
the past 3 or 4 years we've seen an increase of children's enrollment in programs of 25 to 30% which has
pushed us on Wednesday night programs to using some of the facilities of the recently vacated old St.
Hubert's gymnasium and school. So we're trying to do two sites at the present time. When we project
ourselves into the future,there are a couple of different ways to talk about projections and the one that
you see is the one that I feel best about using which is briefly stated, if we're doing our job as a good
congregation, if we're meeting the needs of our community and the needs of the people of our church, we
will continue to grow as a congregation. And any good church in Chanhassen will continue to grow is if
we have the facilities,the parking,the elbow room that we feel is necessary to allow our church as a
corporate citizen of this community the options for us to be able to respond in ways that meet needs of
the community and our religious community. Not knowing what's ahead, we would like to be able to
have options. The space,the parking,the elbow room necessary to provide us with a variety of options.
Another way of looking at projections is to talk about numbers. Two years ago when we were deeply
into the study of whether to relocate or not,this is 1996 figures. Five years from then would be 2001,
isn't it? We were thinking, 3 years from now at any rate. Our attendance would be somewhere between
1,000 or 1,500 people on a weekend conceivably given facilities,and our children's enrollment
somewhere around 500 to 750 children in our programs. Family of Christ's mission is first and foremost
certainly to be a Christian church. To be a church of,a place of worship, education and programming. A
place for the families of our religious community to be together in Christian worship and service. And
not incidentally for a place for residents,new residents and others to put down roots of faith and
friendship. We see this all the time,as other churches do in our community. As new residents arrive,
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one of the places that many new residents look for relationships and for roots of stability is a Christian
congregation. We think that benefits a community considerably. There are several key words or phrases
that we use in our congregation, our church life. Children and families certainly a part of that. We're not
overlooking our ministry and mission to people my age. Almost empty nesters,but if you look at our
community, our school district and our church,clearly children and families are part of the primary —
mission that we have. Music is another key word for us at Family of Christ. Little known fact. A too
closely guarded secret is the fact that in Chanhassen, Family of Christ Lutheran Church has the largest,
regularly scheduled contemporary worship music program of any Lutheran church within a 10 mile _
radius. That includes St. Andrews in Eden Prairie. Mt. Calvary in Excelsior and a whole variety of
others. Our regular Sunday morning, 11:00 worship music program for contemporary music is bigger
than any others around. We don't really say that a whole lot and maybe we should. Service to others is
also something that we have historically used as a key phrase in our church life. I'll say some more about
that in a few minutes. But we also,historically have budgeted 3%of our weekend worship offerings to
designate to local social service and church run social service agencies. Non church agencies that we've
contributed to in the past,and always entertained contributing presently, would include Southern Valley
Alliance for Battered Women. Carver County Big Brothers and Big Sisters. There's an Edendale Camp
for Disabled Children. My indication is that we do not simply focus on church activities or church run
facilities but others as well. We think that churches are more than simply religious institutions in a
community that have a discreet impact only on it's own membership. Churches also are community
citizens and along with specific agencies consciously partner in promoting and supporting the well being
of the neighborhoods and the communities that we serve. As such I believe that churches and the well —
being of churches has a direct impact on the well being and on public,the well being of public life and
even on issues of public money and taxation. Family of Christ Lutheran does not believe that we need to
duplicate the good quality programs that school districts and other social or community agencies do,but
as a community citizens with that relationship written right into our church mission statement,we think
it's real important for us to support these community agencies and school. For 18 years Family of Christ
has been a quiet and substantial citizen in our community,beginning from day one when we began at a —
crucial time in it's preservation. We began a daily use and maintenance of old, historic Old St. Hubert's
church in Chanhassen. They're renting that facility and on a daily and a weekly and a monthly and a
yearly basis were maintaining it. Were providing the utilities for it. Were paying rental payments. At a _
time in the community's life and in that building's life when there was some fair uncertainty about it's
viability as a historic structure. Pastor and leaders from Family of Christ were instrumental,along with
some people at St. Hubert's, in beginning and also making certain of it's continuing the now 19 year
tradition of the community ecumenical Thanksgiving service that we have. Family of Christ sponsors
and we hold in our building,we have video tape for, or have rebroadcast a couple of times the, on the
cable access channel,the City Council candidates election forum. We like providing this for the
community at an evening time when people who are working may be able to attend or be able to see this —
on their televisions. We are a polling place. We have 18 year history of, if not weekly, certainly monthly
food donations to PROP as well as some considerable cash contributions and volunteer participation.
Family of Christ presently is host to at least one of one site in Chanhassen of District 112's ECFE. Early —
Childhood Family Education program. Right now it's a 3 full day program. For a couple of years it was
a couple of days and two evenings until we had to tell ECFE we need the evening space. And during
these years we did not charge the taxpayers of District 112 any cost at all for any occupancy. Rental, —
snow removal,garbage removal,utilities, insurance, upkeep,any of that. I certainly acknowledge there's
benefit to Family of Christ for having ECFE in our building. There's clearly a benefit to District 112
taxpayers to have ECFE in our building. I've been a resource occasionally to Scott Harr and Chanhassen
Public Safety. Particularly in talking about disaster preparedness in our community and coordinating that
with professional clergy and other non-public services. And with the fire department as well a couple of
times in talking with them about stress related and work related issues for fire fighters. Family of Christ —
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hosts multiple groups. You see the list there. Sometimes it's on Tuesday evenings I believe we have
three Brownie groups meeting. Not always on the same evening but multiple groups,none of which we
boo charge for use of our building in any way. AA makes a token contribution of$10.00 a month and that's I
believe the only income that we receive from any of these community groups. In closing I just would,I
would say that churches are not the only source for volunteers and for the care and feeding of volunteers
in a community. But for people of faith,and in Minnesota that's a considerable portion of the
population. For people of faith,churches are one of the important sources for volunteers, coaches,civic
volunteers of a variety of sorts. Not only a source but the encouragement of and the care,the feeding,the
nourishment and the renewal,which is critically necessary. Thanks. I'll turn this over to Steve Edwins,
Imo
our architect.
Mayor Mancino: How long have you been pastor there?
Nate Castens: I've been pastor since day one. I've been a member of this community for 22 or 23 years.
tom Steve Edwins: It's a pleasure to be here on behalf of the church. My name is Steve Edwins from SMSQ
Architects in Northfield. I'm going to align this drawing a little bit. And we've been doing the master
planning work and the building design work for Family of Christ over the last year or more and I'd like to
just talk briefly about the way the building,as it's been planned and designed, responds to the forces on
the site. This has been dealt with in the larger scale of the whole site,up till this time by Ken Adolf.
Very ably. We have had a struggle with this little hill,shoulder of the site simply because of all the
.w forces that kind of collide in this one spot. We have, first of all topology that is, if you can see here. The
topology of this shoulder kind of coming down to a narrow point by Bluff Creek. High at this side. Low
at this side. Where a building is located,compared to a driveway at Coulter Boulevard is about a 16 foot
climb up to the building. The road that will be the extension of Stone Creek will go from about 35 feet
up to a total of 50 feet. From 930 to 950 at that side. So it's a hilly area and we want to take advantage
as best we can of the topology and the views that the church will have and the views that people will
have of the church. Along the guidelines that the city has set out. So we've placed the building high on
~ the site,up here with a loop road that connects from the new Stone Creek extension,which allows people
to find the church easily when they come off of Highway 5 or from driving west on Coulter. They'll find
this location handy. We need to have a long,kind of drop off zone. There's not enough room on the site
for really a turn around so we're proposing kind of a long drop off area because it's very important for
parents to drop off kids and people to pick up people who are leaving a service and starting at the next
service. In fact we don't quite have enough room for that on the site as it stands right now but this will
work. And the parking is on the south side in our view because we really want the entrance to the church
to be on the sunny side,the south side and use the building kind of like an agricultural shelter belt that
protects the farmhouse from the north winds and from the cold. It really works best in our climate to
have entrances to churches facing towards the south,as well as for other buildings. We've been in
church business for about 49 years. I've been designing churches for 20 years and the difficulties we
find of having north facing entrances are huge in our kind of climate. As far as being hospitable and
Nor gracious and friendly to people who are coming to church. In this case,with the parking sloping down
towards Coulter,there's a natural way in which because of the topology the parking is going to be
somewhat hidden from Coulter, and certainly hidden from Highway 5. Yet it presents kind of where the
front door is quite easily and visibly to people either driving on Coulter or who might turn up Stone
Creek Drive towards the main part of the development. Now the building is also designed so that it can
grow. The core will contain the first worship area which will become the future fellowship hall,offices,
restrooms and education. With the entry here,the concept will be to allow the building to grow this
direction,toward the east for it's assembly spaces. We're not sure how big the final assembly space
might be but that makes sense to have that on the high part of the land. It will be the tallest part of the
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building and it will be centered then in a way that access from parking on all sides makes a lot of sense in
the long run. Running this way from the gathering space that's right in the middle of the building will be
offices. Offices facing south where people can see where to go for help and where the staff can kind of
monitor the building and people who are coming and going. And behind on this side and to the west
would be really education. And the church is going to start off by having a place for small kids. A child
care effort that actually will benefit the whole site because where the preschool and daycare possibilities
on site, it really is an advantage to everyone in the development. This part of the building grows this
direction as education grows. And it could easily be a two story extension where the topology goes _
downhill. On the east side we don't necessarily need to have something underneath the assembly space
in a basement level. So it takes advantage of the site in that respect. We've kept everything under
possible construction behind the 100 foot setback discussed for the Bluff Creek corridor. That line is
approximately here on this drawing so that even parking,a small amount of parking that we envision and
the future phase of the church would not encroach into that line at all. The smaller, shorter parts of the
building would be towards this end again and the taller parts climbing the hill up this way. For people
viewing the site from the walkway,the trail that's going to be basically on the west side of Bluff Creek,
looking across the pond and looking across towards the east,they'll be able to see kind of through the
building to the site and it will not have a big impact in that respect. The concept is true with what is
turning out to be the concept for the whole site of having kind of a village of buildings rather than having
lots of large buildings on the site. That you can kind of see through and in-between to take advantage of
the topology. This drawing also illustrates some of our responses to the needs for good landscaping,
especially on the Bluff Creek side of the building. The rest of it doesn't show up in this drawing yet,
with a concept of using wetlands,plantings around where the retention pond would be. Using kind of
approved plant materials of native grasses and things along the whole Bluff Creek area and the trees,both
canopy trees of the old growth forest type,because there's a real reforestation project going on along
Bluff Creek,as well as ornamental trees for screening and shrubbery for screening of parking. The main
parking here is very close to the front door and as shown in the more up to date drawing that Ken
presented,parking on the east side is available to the other parts of the site. We do want to have a small
amount of parking low on the site that is connected to the other parking which will be, facilitate the
children and families using the building in the long run and this is also a place where people from the
public generally can come to the Bluff Creek area and enjoy the setting without it being a very large _
parking lot. This parking lot would follow the contours and the creek bed as much as possible. So that in
a nutshell is kind of the reasoning for the building being placed as it has been on the site and if there are
questions that come up,I'm sure I can fill in some more details as those do. We're very concerned about
following the guidelines for the kind of tree planting in the islands and the whole parking area so that we
have a well landscaped,well lighted,well defined parking area and we've made a shot at doing that in,
on a really very tight conditions of slope in this part of the site.
Mayor Mancino: Steve,you said you've been designing churches for 20 years. What other churches
have you designed? In the area.
Steve Edwins: Well let's see. We're working right now in the northern suburbs, in Brooklyn Park with
St. Gerards Catholic Church. We're working with Emanuel east of here in Eden Prairie. Normandale
Lutheran on Highway 100 is one of our projects. We've worked on St.John's Lutheran downtown. Or
south Nicollet. We're working with Mary Mother of the Church in Burnsville. We have about 15 church
projects in different stages of development right now.
Mayor Mancino: Thank you.
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Jim Sulerud: Back to me. I'm Jim Sulerud again. What I'd like to do is just step through rather quickly
some of the concerns that have come to us, some directly and some indirectly,with regard to how is the
choice made. How might a choice be made by the city or city staff to locate a church where there might
otherwise have been some other revenue producing development. Obviously we as the church look at it
180 degrees different and I'll kind of step that, step through some of that for you. I think it comes to
answer the same questions and maybe the same outcome. Let's see where we are here. Here we're
identifying what our considerations have been. These are the headings for our,for the next pieces that
I'll talk about but first of all it's how much growing room will we need as a congregation. That was our
first,our first question that we came up with. You're maybe familiar with our present site. We're
located just to the east here behind the Legion fields. A little obscure right now. Maybe for people
driving by on Highway 5. We were on what was originally going to be Highway 101 when we bought
our property. Highway 101 was going to travel right by and it was,we were going to be at a major
intersection of Highway 5 and 101. Well that didn't happen. We also,a siting decision at that time had
to do with available sewer and water. First of all,getting back to where we are today. Our site right now
is 7,300 square feet on about 3 %z acres of land. If you drive by the site you'll see that it's not fully
developed. Our present site could accommodate up to maybe 19,000 square feet,so we could be a little
bit more than double the size. Our current programming,our current programming, looking at what the
present members of our congregation have stated for needs,would develop a site plan for about 20 to
25,000 square feet of construction. So that would outstrip the needs on the site. That would be for our
present need,what our congregation right now would like to see built. What we're going to actually
afford to build will not be,we don't expect to be at that,but the current expectations for current
programming,based on what the congregation would like to see,would call for more than what our site
would offer. On our site plans, looking ahead at those nebulous numbers in the future,we're looking
ahead at trying to accommodate 60,000 square feet so well beyond what the present site would provide.
Next we looked at,the question was can we stay where we are. Obviously it might be most prudent to
add on and so we even went beyond the consideration of our current land. We looked across the street at
buying property in the retail area across the street. Area that's recently been considered for the auto
dealerships. That of course would be taking more dollars off the tax rolls but we looked at that as being
maybe shared parking as well, so that could let us grow a little bit more on our site. We also looked at
purchasing of adjacent residential property,and I think we included in your material just a sketch of what
properties those might be. We identified between 14 and 26 homes that would have to be acquired to
meet an acreage that would be similar to what we might be looking for with shared parking. The current
market cost on that would be about 2 % to 4 million dollars and current taxes to the city of those,of the
larger number of residents,the 26 residences would be$15,000.00 annually. As you can imagine,
acquisition by a congregation moving into a neighborhood to the east,and expecting to acquire 14 to 26
homes would be kind of a major undertaking with a lot of disruption,both to that neighborhood and
probably not even feasible. But that's just to give a flavor to the size of the acquisition that we'd be
talking about. Even if we were to consider shared parking across the street in the commercial area. So
we left that as a consideration and we identified some goals that we had as we looked at other sites. This
dating back 2 and 3 years ago. We were looking for a site that had visibility to Highway 5. We consider
ourselves to be a congregation that serves Chanhassen. Also serves some Eden Prairie residents and
some Chaska. We looked to the west,probably not locating beyond Galpin. Looked to,but certainly to
the east of TH 101. I'm sorry,to the west of TH 101,but not to the west of Galpin. Churches, similar
churches shouldn't locate on top of each other,and certainly we wanted to be in, stay in our Chanhassen
market area. Again we wanted room for 60,000 square feet of building,which we interpreted variously
over this time as being 8 to 15 plus acres. Maybe up to as many 20 if we didn't have the shared parking
possibilities. Another thing that was critical to us two years ago,and certainly is critical today is that we
had to look at properties that had infrastructure development that matched up with our time table. We
couldn't be buying property,expecting to construct and build well before the public improvements were
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coming through. Some members of our congregation have raised that question about why do we buy
what we've got? Shouldn't we have thought further in the future? Well,that's as far as sewer and water
went those days. In fact we waited a little while for that. Not everywhere in the community but I mean
we couldn't have considered where we are now certainly. And we looked to areas that would have a
residential character,or an institutional neighbors. That would be our preferences. We didn't set out to
look in industrial and commercial areas for locating our church. Our siting experiences. City staff early
was helpful to us in identifying property owners as well as potential sites that they felt might be suitable,
residential and otherwise. Both Kate and Bob have been with us through this whole process and have
been very helpful. Back in '95,middle of'95 Bob had a list that was made available to us and to others
where some of these sites,because I think he was getting many questions,daily from churches,where do
we go? Identifying 8 to 10 parcels back then and we pursued not only those but the count came up to be
27 parcels that we looked at. Some of them very marginally suitable. I think south, looking at the
intersection of what would be TH 101 and 212,when that might happen. Going to the west,to the
southwest, at the south end of Audubon. Where that adjoins Lyman. Looking at it even farther west
there, is an industrial piece that backs up against the wetland. It's farther west on Lyman. Heading
north, looking even in the, at TH 41. Corners of TH 41 and Highway 5. Even though that was beyond
where we wanted to be. And then all the way back east on the Highway 5 corridor to our present site.
Looking at,talking to the residential developers, the commercial developers,all property owners and
back then two years ago we got a lot of no,we're not interested. Or no,we're not interested in a church.
Or we're already far along,too far along. We've got a townhouse development planned. But what we
did find was that the Land Group site matched up with our timing. They weren't too far along and yet
they were making plans for the inclusion of,expected to support the Coulter Boulevard petitioning and
north/south road and so forth. So that became a first choice for us back then and it has remained that,
even though since because of our time delays and some difficulties,we have gone back into the
marketplace and made inquiries. But we have focused in on that site. Looking at some tax implications
here and these are obviously there are going to be some stretches here but also some real type of
numbers. You can see my first one here, I've quickly done some scratching out and inserting some other
numbers but because things keep changing. I'm suggesting here that if we follow on Ken Adolf s
suggestion that we put a 42,000 square foot facility on that site, it might be,if it's a basic office
warehouse, it might be a million and a half structure. The City,or the County indicates that on a
comparable building currently constructed in the city,they have these ratios worked out so that that
would generate about$15,000.00 of city taxes on the property. So those are city dollars I'm using here. _
My earlier number there was for a smaller size square foot building because as you saw the placement
that Ken Adolf suggested,it intruded further to the west on the site and I expect that that wouldn't even -.
be a feasible one in our proposal but as I previously suggested, if we acquired all of those other
properties to the east of where we were,that would remove about$15,000.00 of city taxes again for those
26 parcels. And then here's a conjecture. My third point there is to say that if we were to acquire a free
standing 15 to 20 acre site,in a new residential setting that might otherwise be occupied by 52
S 160,000.00 homes,that would generate an estimated$39,000.00 in city taxes again. Taxes to the city.
So that puts that,puts some dollar figures. I know that we can bat those around considerably but it isn't
hundreds of thousands and it isn't a million per year. It's,but it still offsets some. My sort of a last
point is kind of a restatement of some of the things that Nate was talking about. Is that it may be a little
bit different but unlike city,county properties and so forth,churches pay for their land and pay for the
development of their sites without taxpayer dollars. So we're not, it's not a parallel to a public use
coming in and looking back to the taxpayer to fund the development and the construction. And yet for
the most part it's a very public benefit. And then piggy backing on Nate's comments. Churches not —
only, in this community provide millions of dollars annually that primarily fund the facilities and salaries.
There's a large revenue stream that flows through these congregations and they're primarily for two
things. For the buildings,as Nate's talked about. They're very public buildings and they're for salaries
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for staff people who are in the business of providing a very public benefit. Beyond that you can
extrapolate thousands and thousands of volunteer hours that are fostered by these facilities. So all of this
in contrast to the lost revenue, it's maybe a bargain purchase. Reminds me that I missed one other point
in this presentation was that in initially going to the city staff,we asked the question about are there
locations that have been identified for congregations? Church sitings and that hasn't been a practice of
ism the city. There's been a more broad siting issues that have been use types that have been identified but
there hasn't been an identification that well here's where we'd like to see a church or here's where we'd
like to see a church. And so we didn't have that as a benefit to go from. So anyway that's kind of a
potpourri of who the church is and what we've been about for 2 years or more and,or 18 years. And
we've been pleased to work with Land Group. They've been patient with us. We've been patient with
them but I think just as equally the staff has been patient with us as well so I guess we're all ready to
respond to questions.
Mayor Mancino: Thank you very much.
Liv Homeland: I'm going to make this brief. I think everybody's losing it at this point. We really
appreciate all your attention and concern. I just wanted to make a little recap on a couple of items that
are very important to us. In going through, you know talking about the site concerns. One consideration
is that first and foremost this is concept approval and we do have,there are 34 items that have been
recommended to go with that, which is unusual at this stage of the development, but we are in agreement
with 32 of those 32 and I just want to be very specific,since we revised our plan and did that,just want
to be very specific about the two that we are not in agreement with. And the one of those is,we
definitely want to retain the right-in,right-out access and the road going through the site, which was
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previously approved but when we went through the Planning Commission we had put that on hold and
said we wanted to retain the right. We weren't sure we going to use it or not. We are now using it and I
want that very clear that we do want to use and stay with that right-in and right-out and with the road that
we had previously been approved. So I want that very clear. That is item number 27 in your staff report.
And the second item that is very important to us. It's,the way it is worded in there, I think it makes
some sense but that's item number 21 and this is in regard to our working with MnDot and that was
addressed at some extent by Ken Adolf. I just wanted you to note which item that was. And we're
perfectly willing to work with MnDot but we don't want to be the ones that have to approach them. They
should approach us. We don't want to be responsible for doing something. You know if they have any
issues, let them come to us and let the city staff deal with us on those issues. Or the city deal with us.
We don't want to have to be the ones to do their work for them in any way,shape or form. So we have a
concern there. The other item that we wanted,when we're talking about uses, the third. We had talked
about,we are now working with the clinic. There's a whole list of uses that the staff has put together and
a clinic is one of those included uses and allowed uses for the site. One that is not on there is a financial
institution such as a bank and we do have a user we're working with that would like to be an anchor
tenant. Be a tenant in the office building in the northeast corner so bank is one that we want to add.
• That's a very specific add if you will. Because we are going so much office and you know increasing the
density of the site,the other item that we,other use that we would request would be the use of a
restaurant within the site,and that is another one that we'd like to have you look at and consider. Beyond
that I think the other items are ones that we would certainly deal with and you've heard from the church
,.. and all the people involved so if you have any questions,I think we'd like,we're all available at this
point for questions on your part. If there are any issues that you would have for questions.
Mayor Mancino: Any questions?
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Councilman Berquist: I just wanted to clarify the approval that you,took place at some point in time,
the right-in/right-out. When was that?
Liv Homeland: That was last year for the, it was to extend Stone Creek Boulevard all the way from
Coulter. It goes up to Coulter now. Coming from the south to Coulter and extended from there to the
Highway 5. The MnDot approved right-in/right-out has been there as long as we've had the property.
That was there prior to our acquiring the property.
Mayor Mancino: But it's not approved...
Kate Aanenson: We looked at,and Charles can add. Stone Creek was always intended to
go...north/south to go onto Highway 5. When Coulter was being designed,Charles...and they decided at
that point,we said you have to decide now. Once Highway 5 gets built...our recommendation was to
have that right-in/right-out to take a lot of traffic off of Audubon. Going past the...straight out and get
onto TH 5 at a future date.
Liv Homeland: The only reason there's some confusion on it was because a plan for the Planning
Commission,we were trying to show office warehouse and so we at that point requested,we want to
reserve the right to come back to that right-in/right-out and Kate and staff said,well either take it now or
don't,or forget it you know kind of thing and we said well we can't afford to forget it and we, if we're
not going to do the office warehouse,which was right in the middle of where the road would be. We
couldn't fit it onto the site otherwise,and there were topography concerns. We couldn't use the roadway
through. Therefore we went back to there and said okay, fine. We'll just stay with it the way it is and
that's what we're asking for is to stay with it the way it is. But item number 27 in there doesn't,you
know says that differently and that's why I noted that. We want to stay with the roadway running
through the site north and south.
Councilman Berquist: Is the others...27 you talk about...
Liv Homeland: Yeah,right. •.
Kate Aanenson: It refers to the other set of plans. —
Councilman Berquist: Say that again?
Kate Aanenson: It refers to the other set of plans.
Liv Homeland: The office warehouse plan with one big building in the front, which is not the one that
we're asking for approval on tonight.
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Kate Aanenson: Maybe you can let Charles comment on where...design plans for Highway 5...
Charles Folch: That's correct. The opportune time is now. The property has had a field access for a
period of time. MnDot,as a part of their improvements to Trunk Highway 5 to a four lane facility is
willing to allow a right-in/right-out condition to stay. Initially stay at that particular access. In order to
close it they would have to purchase that right from the property owner but they have said for a couple of _
years now that they would be willing to allow a right-in/right-out controlled access. At this time MnDot
has their design plans at about 30%. Anita and I have met with them back in late November,early
December and the issue of this access point did come up again. From MnDOT's standpoint it is,they'd
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like to know where officially you know draw the line. Where does the access point be? There is a range,
if you will,of distance where this access point could be adjusted based on highway design standards and
at this point, I think they have the most possibly of just leaving it off their plans until they know exactly
where the property owner would like to have the access point. If it fits within that criteria of allowable
sight distances and things like that. I don't think MnDot has a problem with keeping a right-in/right-out
access or adjusting it slightly if necessary.
Mayor Mancino: Has there been a traffic study for the right-in/right-out?
Charles Folch: There's not been a specific traffic study,no. But MnDot is comfortable to allow that
condition to occur with.
Mayor Mancino: Without doing a traffic study on a road that is at service level F at this point?
Charles Folch: That's correct, with a right-in/right-out condition.
Mayor Mancino: Okay. Any other questions? Comments from commissioners. This is a conceptual
approval and what that means is obviously we're conceptually approving if we choose to do so. It
doesn't hold us to, when we come back and see a sight plan, we can certainly change...at that point. But
I think we want to give good direction to the applicant. I think obviously one of the major questions, and
we have dealt with this before. Can you hear me? Excuse me. And we have dealt with this before is
when we've had commercial industrial zoning planned and we are very concerned about our tax base as a
community,as you know. Will we rezone it for something else? We have, I'm not sure we have done
that in the past, have we Kate? Have we looked at commercial industrial? When we've had a request for
rezoning. Taking it off the commercial industrial zoning.
Kate Aanenson: The commercial...
Mayor Mancino: It was on residential so it has less of a fiscal impact on the tax base being from
residential. And Jehovah Witness. What percentage of that commercial industrial area was rezoned for,
is that rezoned institutional? Or was it rezoned?
Kate Aanenson: No. It was intended to allow a church on..Jot.
Mayor Mancino: Okay. Which was approximately how much?
Kate Aanenson: ...60.
Mayor Mancino: Okay.
Kate Aanenson: Yeah, it was like a 2 %2 acre.
Mayor Mancino: And as we look at this,has staff looked at this to flip flop. If we're losing some CI tax
base here, can we gain it somewhere else?
Kate Aanenson: A good point was brought up and that was that...look at providing...update of the
comprehensive plan we have done,have looked at other uses. As was in...putting studies together quite
a while ago, properties that were available. Fortunately...assembled and held for development... The
comprehensive plan in 1991 didn't...specifically.
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Mayor Mancino: Specifically for institutional.
Kate Aanenson: Well,which we...update the comprehensive plan. We have an opportunity where we
think makes sense based on a collector. There's certain criteria...uses or criteria... That's what we
looked at...but there wasn't a lot of...
Mayor Mancino: There weren't a lot? I know that the Highway 5 corridor stipulated some as
institutional. TH 5 and 41 etc.
Kate Aanenson: ...although it's a lot smaller size. I think when we looked at institutional I think maybe
we have smaller scale type lots...starting to look at 90 and 100 acres. Churches now are looking at
lots... Those institutional that we gave were all under...
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Mayor Mancino: Okay. But this is,of the approximately 27 acres,this is on,this will take up 8 acres.
Correct, which means about what,30%of the entire CI. Now and that includes the shared parking.
Kate Aanenson: Right,well and that's some of the concern we still have. We understand the design
concept of south facing and taking consideration of the views but we still have concerns how that works
with circulation of the shared parking.
Mayor Mancino: That's my concern too.
Kate Aanenson: ...church,typically it's the highway concentration, Sunday across the road is a less
concern than the office people crossing that road. There's some issues there,we want to see how that...
cross access. See if there's some...
Mayor Mancino: Okay. Councilman Senn.
Councilman Senn: Have we performed tax... .�
Kate Aanenson: We have...it's such a nebulous...! think you have to look at the...It can be very...
Councilman Senn: Well let me term it another way then. How many square feet,I've heard several
numbers and several... In terms of the church parcel,square feet do you have?
Bob Generous: Well the 42 would be a legitimate number. The 108,assuming the entire site...
Councilman Senn: So we have a big difference between 42 and 108. Give me what's real and...
Bob Generous: What's real. Probably about...
Mayor Mancino: Probably a what?
Kate Aanenson: Whole area of.2.
Bob Generous: .2 which is...
Mayor Mancino: And you would still be able to get parking that's required?
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Bob Generous: Yes.
Mayor Mancino: Okay.
Councilman Senn: Okay,and if you use,if you do use the same ratio basically that is talking about a
60/40, then you're looking roughly around 3.2... You're looking at roughly$192,000.00 in taxes.
Mayor Mancino: Is that city taxes or is that overall,total taxes? I mean out of that 192, 17%is city taxes
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so what is that? 19 plus 30.
Councilman Senn: I'm sorry,well I don't want to delve into that because I think that's a separate issue. I
want to analyze it purely on the basis of city taxes. I think we have...that's okay. I mean the effects are
much bigger...large portion but that doesn't lessen the tax impact.
Kate Aanenson: But see then you get into a whole other gray area Mark which we could have gone
through that whole...it gets very complex and we're...and Bob and I started going down that path.
We've done that before. All we do is get more confused. I think you have to go back to the argument...
Mayor Mancino: Well that's the good part about protecting the CI because not only do you get the taxes
but you don't have the other impacts on school and other services that you use,and I'm just trying to
think, is there. I mean you have a double whammy. So I'm just wondering, if there is, I have two big
questions. Number one, is there another area in the city where we can pick up more CI if we lose it?
Secondly,as we have other churches that may want to be expanded in our city,you know,we have to
4.. decide right now because obviously churches would like Highway 5 exposure. It is where we have our
commercial industrial...tax base so saying yes to one,what does that mean if other churches want to
expand or come into other CI areas in our city? And we know that there may be a few other so that is my
concern also. Because we only have so much land.
Kate Aanenson: Right. And we...
Mayor Mancino: CI and much is,and please don't anybody get me wrong. I mean there is a tremendous
value that you give to the community. There is,every one of us feels that. We also have to be very
practical about the financial impact.
Jim Sulerud: Maybe two things that would particularly relate here because we're an existing user. We
will be leaving a facility which means that if another church user comes in, they will not be looking for
an alternate site to place a church. So I mean the net of our making a move has less of an impact.
Secondly,you would have the opportunity,probably,to have a conceptual plan for the neighborhood that
we're leaving to say we have retail,commercial to the north. Let's have retail commercial where the
church is leaving. Or some other intermediate higher use that would be a public private and generate
some taxes.
•- Mayor Mancino: I would like to think so but in reality,as you know, it's very,very hard to. Yeah you
would have World War III in that neighborhood.
Jim Sulerud: But there is that trade off. We're not a net,causing a net loss in the same way.
Mayor Mancino: Thank you. Councilman Senn,you were saying.
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Councilman Senn: To me the overall and very difficult issue is precisely what you were talking about.
Essentially land use designations...or at least to an extent it does. I thought a lot about this one before
coming in tonight and didn't come in with it resolved,okay but I'm still unresolved basically. To me
that's going to be key to deciding whether this thing makes sense or not. It seems to me like the
plan...coming together. I think it's got a ways to go. I share the concern, whoever it was that raised it
over the orientation of the shared parking. Of the shared parking. And the orientation which is now laid
out... counter productive to that but again I mean this is so...concept,right? So I'm assuming they'll
work. So I guess,I don't know. I still think deal with the other issues. You know I'd really like to give
you and answer on it tonight. But I'd be fibbing I guess because I'm not sure how...
Mayor Mancino: So what would you need,or do you even know,what would you need to resolve that?
Councilman Senn: Well,coming into tonight I tried to look at all the...of the residential parcels
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available. Tried to look at effectively what we had in relationship to CI and the overall tax base,both
now and well into the future. I guess I can't really think,at least from my perspective,over the last 4 or 5
years...an issue that remains...not be quite as important as this one as it relates to the...where we're
going and sort of how we're going to get there. Again,I don't want to downplay anything at all about the
group because the...in relation to the church couldn't be a better group of people and a more involved
group in the city and everything else. It definitely makes it harder to come to that conclusion. Because
my first tendency when this all started out was just simply to say I can't see it. I'm not going to say it's
that strong anymore. At the same time I certainly haven't come to the point where I'm...saying I think
it's something we should even look at at this point.
Mayor Mancino: I'll come back to you on that. ...that Liv wanted us to respond to. The whole issue of
the CI and the tax base. It's a hard one.
Councilman Mason: Well I personally agree with Kate on that one. I think that one's a real slippery
slope. I don't,I'm going to back track. I've been sitting here for over 7 years and this presentation was
the most thorough,thoughtful and intelligent presentation I've come across here and I do want to thank
you all for that. You made me think of some things I would not have thought of. It's clear in my mind
that we're dealing with a,a very special issue here and we're also dealing with a group of people that I
think are very aware of those issues and are doing everything they can to...and mitigate those issues.
And thank you for coming with all of this in mind. I want to talk briefly Mayor about what you said
about a precedence we're setting here. You know if this happens,then that will have to happen. I'll tell
you what my problem is with that. Every time I,as everyone knows here, I basically don't believe in
voting for variances because I maintain it sets precedence. Now every time I say that,at least two people
on this Council say,we look at each one of these on an individual basis. Now with that said about
variances, for heavens sake I would certainly hope, and I know it is, looked at the same way when a
situation like this comes down the pike. So I personally, I don't agree with that argument.
Mayor Mancino: ...if another church came and wanted to go...
Councilman Senn: If I, in my mind, if I thought it didn't help the City and it didn't fit with what we have
going on,absolutely. That's what I'm here for and I hope that's what we're all here for. I wrestled with
tax implications. All of that. I say here are the gains. Here are the losses... I think in my personal
feeling is, in the long run, for the city,as far as yes we might marginally,city and school district, might
lose some revenues. As I look at this proposal. As I look at the recommendations that staff said,you
know we need this,this,this and this for it to work and even for conceptual approval,the group came .�
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back and said, okay. This is how we'll handle this. This is how we'll handle that. In terms of
conceptual,and I hope everyone understands that this is conceptual. Not preliminary. It's not final. The
whole thing could blow up if this gets approved and go down the tubes. Having said all of that, the
concept of this to me I think would look very good on Highway 5. I think it would overall benefit the
city of Chanhassen. I understand some of the concerns staff still has. I also understand, I'm hearing
everyone saying, I think we can work this out. Now I also understand we're going to lose some CI
property on this. I'm also understanding, it sounds like we can gain some back in some other areas as we
redo the comp plan. ...I mean am I?
Mayor Mancino: Can you respond to that? If we do lose some here,can,are there other areas where we
can pick it up?
Kate Aanenson: Well we've provided other places where we see industrial zones in place. I'm not
sure... but we've also provided opportunities for institutional...
Mayor Mancino: So are you saying as we go..., are you saying that as we go to look at the
comprehensive plan that we're working'on, and I'd like to hear other Council members respond to that.
This. That where we have designated institutional is only where institutional can go? That again we
would not, this would not come up again?
Kate Aanenson: This same issue came up with Eckankar...my understanding. ...is that correct Roger?
Roger Knutson: I believe that's how...
Mayor Mancino: Well then let me say it this way. So that as we look at.
Kate Aanenson: ...industrial zone. You have to right to exclude it in the industrial or commercial. Not
a residential.
Mayor Mancino: But not a residential. So as we're looking at the revised comprehensive plan, we will
be very proactive and say that churches that are locating are in institutional or residential.
Kate Aanenson: Residential. Which is where we try to stir people...and that's what I'm saying. They
_ went through that exercise and were unable. The properties that we have that are available in
residential...
Mayor Mancino: Well Sojourn's piece on TH 5. They've got a big sign up.
Kate Aanenson: It doesn't work. I could go through all the...
'— Mayor Mancino: Okay. So you're saying we still may end up here again?
Kate Aanenson: Absolutely. I mean it's going to happen. Someone's going to always come back and
request it, but you have to remember...when we did the Bluff Creek, we went through that. We revisit
them.
Councilman Mason: So having said all of that, I like the concept. I think it's a good concept. Again, I
think it was very well thought out. I think both,on all sides of the table have worked long and hard at
this. My only,my concern when I heard bank and restaurant. Those are definitely some issues that, I'm
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only speaking for myself on this one but those,I would see those are possible,potential sticking points.
Which we could certainly go into now or at a later point but conceptually I.
Mayor Mancino: No, I think those are...
Councilman Mason: Well sure. I mean for me,one of the issues that we continue to have the concern
that we want downtown remain downtown of Chanhassen. And then certainly in the seven years that I've
been here,and I think since everyone's been here,we tried really hard to maintain some limits as to what
downtown is and I would think we'd need quite a discussion as to whether we feel that expanding the
size of downtown. Whether we want people to think that downtown goes that far. Again,I'm not saying
I'm opposed to that at this point,but they're definitely,quite honestly I see bank and restaurant as
perhaps bigger impact to the city than whether a church goes there.
Mayor Mancino: Councilman Berquist. .111
Councilman Berquist: I look at this project as one in which we need to minimize affects of a non-profit
going on CI land...whether or not. Given what I know about the Family of Christ looking for land and
approaching landowners...and various people about the...locating on their space and given criteria that
they wanted to achieve or remain within in terms of land price. For land, for locations. This is one of the
very few sites that made any sense. This project,the way I look at it anyway,tends to drive the rest of
the first phase. So for that reason alone,I mean that's one reason to take a serious look at a lot. I do mmq
have concerns,assuming that...said what I said and I'm in favor of the project conceptually. I'm going
to try and cut to the quick. I've got lots of notes. I could talk about a lot of stuff but everybody's getting
pooped, including me. The parking as it currently lays out,would seem to benefit the church. I don't see
necessarily that it benefits the office warehouse as much as I would like it to. And maybe I'm wrong
because I'm just looking at the numbers and parking spaces that we have... They seem to be well in
keeping with the normal structures of that size so there's really not any benefit to the church, but there's
not any benefit to the office warehouse. I'd like to see more of a benefit there. When I first saw the
north south road, after looking at the other ones that was dated back in October, I was aghast to see the
north south road. I thought the last thing we need is another access into and off of TH 5. I have a right-
in,what amounts to a right-in,right out off of TH 5,although it's supposed to be both ways. And right-in
and right-out is dangerous as the dickens and it's not going to get any better. ...get widen, I don't see it
improving. On the other hand, I certainly see the discussion points regarding accessibility to the area. I
certainly see the discussion points regarding the office warehouse to access TH 5 and not...Coulter and
go by the school. As to whether or not I'm in favor of that north/south road, I don't know. I've got to be
convinced one way or another a little bit more on that. The north/south road obviously makes the two _
uses that you've got on the northwest and northeast quadrants at the intersection. Without the
north/south road,those uses disappear. I,like Mike though,I concur with Mike that,and yet I'm
reluctant to add any sort of commercial along that area. That far west on TH 5. So it'd be, if I was to
pick a building like over in Eden Prairie,the...bank building by Eden Prairie Center. 30,000 square foot. '~
They take up about 10.
Liv Homeland made a comment from the audience that was not picked up on the tape.
Councilman Berquist: Not a bank first and ancillary tenant second. Okay. Well that would be more.
Councilman Senn: With drive thru I assume?
Liv Homeland: I would say... _.
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Councilman Berquist: Anyway. The overall theme is that I'm not of a mind to allow a commercial retail
sort of flavoring along this area of Highway 5. What is some of the other. Well I also want to
compliment the presenters. It was wonderfully presented...Nate, you did a great job. Development did a
great job. Particularly impressed with the way...discussion that occurred. Let's see,what else did I want
to talk about? I've already said the important things. Oh, I know what I wanted to ask. This is an EDA,
right? Within an Economic Development Area? So for how many years every dollar they pay in taxes
does the district...?
Don Ashworth: This is a 9 and 11 year district. The district exists for 9 years. It will exist for 11 years
and pay...
Councilman Berquist: So if I use the average numbers that we were, somebody said $180,000.00.
Somebody else said $49,000.00. That's going to be anywhere from $125 to S270,000.00 using... Let's
say$180,000.00...that within that district. The other question I had, the north/south road. Who's ticket
is this?
Liv Homeland...
Councilman Berquist: Is that a negotiable point of discussion? ...approval.
Liv Homeland...
Councilman Berquist: That value that I believe this discussion has from our perspective, ...would this be
the last thing that's coming up as well all know, right? I think it's making us look at what we want and
given the use, given the acreage, and all the other stuff, I don't know what would make more sense but I
can tell. we've got an 80 acre...non-profit for land use.
Kate Aanenson: 40.
Councilman Berquist: I heard 80... Maybe 100. And churches,religious organizations, congregations.
I'm all for them. Let me take that back. What a silly thing to say. But it's just... It gets us looking at
something that we've got to look at. One of my ideas all along has impact to the school system. Well do
we partner with the county and with the school district. Perhaps write down residential land and...put
these things,put the non-profits on residential. That's kinds of questions. Yes, it is all nebulous. There
must be. I mean we cannot be the first community to be thinking this. There's got to be other
communities in the United States that have gone through exactly the same exercises.
Mayor Mancino: Well there's no question that we know that the impact on residential is much easier for
the community. There's no question if a non-profit were to locate on residential. Residential hardly pays
for itself in a tax structure,and that when it is on CI where the class rates are much higher and there isn't
the use of school, etc. and Nate and everyone here knows what District 112,how our schools are growing
and needing every tax dollar they can get. And hopefully in places where they also don't have more kids.
._ They get the fiscal part of it and yet not to,don't have the kids. It's obviously beneficial to them. We all
know that so that goes actually without saying. Councilman Senn,you didn't make any remarks on the
request for bank, restaurant, PUD nor did you make any remarks on the shared parking or the north/south
road. Would you like to make those at this time?
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Councilman Senn: Well I did make a comment on the shared parking. Saying that I thought the
orientation of the parking.
Mayor Mancino: That's true,thank you.
Councilman Senn: ...As far as the other two issues go,I don't know. As far as the restaurant and bank
goes,I guess you're asking the person that asked both of those be deleted from the Gateway project as far
as potential users...it was allowed there. I guess that puts me back up in the air... As far as the north/
south road goes,the new one... I don't know what...are in relationship...access. If you basically go back
to our plan,give consideration as to what's going on Coulter and what's going down by the school and
stuff,that is our plan...that's basically a major frontage road servicing all the... And it becomes also4111.
the... to accomplish that plan and install the road so if we're going to do with that,stick with it,I first
off...
Mayor Mancino: Well I'll make a few comments and hopefully I'm not too redundant. Let me bring up
the first one being uses,as far as...permitted uses and Liv,recommendation that we add restaurant and
banking. I would like to make sure that we don't get retail in this area. I don't want to take away from
our downtown. I think the banking is real,what it is a financial, is retail banking. So I conceptually
would not be in favor of adding a restaurant. And again,the retail...in this area. Number two. The
shared parking, I agree with staff and with other council's suggestion. If the shared parking concept is to
work,that it certainly doesn't look like it benefits the entire PUD and the other office buildings on the
east side. That the shared parking would need to be moved and that would be so that it is in closer
proximity to the office buildings. And I would also like to see conceptually within that shared parking,
making sure that it is pedestrian friendly in it and out of it. To the office building. To the employees.
To the people that are going to be working or visiting those office buildings so that they can get from
this,which will be a fairly big shared parking area,to the places that they need to do in a certain fashion.
Third, on the north/south access to Highway 5. I do also share the concerns of the councilmembers about
Highway 5 and access onto TH 5. I know a right-out only. I'm very concerned. I would like to see a
traffic study on that. Differences and have... You have a highway this is already at service level F and
putting in more accesses seems contradictory to helping the congestion on TH 5. Four,the whole basis ,n.
or one of the ideas,one of the foundations for me to approve a church in an industrial complex would be
that it is very clear,and is very stated up front...about the shared parking. That there is,and I don't know
if it's a legal contract but I want it to be very,very clear what this shared parking lot is. How it's to be
IMO
used,etc.
Roger Knutson: That'd be part of the PUD agreement, if it reaches that point.
Mai
Mayor Mancino: Okay. So I would want to have very clear language on it. And I would be concerned,
and I just have a concern for Nate about,as the congregation grows,etc.,will it in fact be able to stay
shared parking? I mean will you have users there that will want to be there during the day when the
offices are supposed to be using that parking. Does that make sense? I mean I don't want to have this
great plan and it doesn't work for you and it doesn't work for the other users in the PUD. And you're
coming to us and saying you know we need more parking now.
Nate Castens: How much parking would we have immediately adjacent to the church? Couple hundred.
I can't imagine a use,through the week on a regular basis would require more than 200 cars. We're
talking about a preschool. It's been never suggested to have an elementary school or a high school.
That'd be an entirely different ballgame. I can't imagine,although I talked about options, I can't
conceive of an option that would require more parking than 200 immediately adjacent to our church.
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We're very interested in the shared parking too because we definitely want shared parking on weekends
and on Wednesday nights as close and accessible to the church as possible. So we fully endorse making
it pedestrian friendly as shared and we fully would expect that this would be a legal easement on both
users' parts.
Kate Aanenson: Nancy,maybe we could cover that too as part of the PUD agreement. Certainly any
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change in use would require approved parking...
Mayor Mancino: Okay. I just want that real detailed,drilled down so everybody is very clear what that
amp
means. The other part is,I also want to make sure that the rest of the PUD has a certain square footage of
commercial industrial. If we are,we will in fact,the tax base will be there to make up for the non-profit
site. And it won't completely,I understand that but what I'm looking on this conceptual plan of 200,000
square feet CI. And so what I want to make sure if we get different site plans that come in. They do add
up to a certain square footage so that we keep that constant. And that would be a condition of approval
for it. Liv.
Liv Homeland: Just kind of a brief comment. We have increased the square footage a lot and one of
the ways we've done that, frankly is by putting that road through there because it makes it work for us for
low office. And those two go together. When we were looking at office warehouse, it was a lot less critical
because they could come in from Coulter. It was a little bit different of the visibility but if we're going to
do the heavy duty office along the front,and there is certainly the possible. Right now they're showing
for topography purposes,as two story buildings. There's certainly the possibility of making a three story
building,you know that kind of thing. Right now they're shown on two levels,parking on both sides.
You know to use that topography that drops off so significantly. There is also the potential,this is why
` it's so critical for us to have these users because if we have the clinic going in there,you know the clinic
to some degree will drive it's size and we're going to be to some degree dependent on that. It's our
intention to do a larger building than what they need so we can put other multi tenants in there as well.
This also is the reason we wanted to do the small financial user in this other building because it puts an
anchor tenant in there and gives us the ability to you know start developing that. If we can do office on
these two,we would very,very much look at taking these office warehouse buildings and doing office
there as well. And doing you know office down through this whole site. We are working with another
user,builder that would consider doing small buildings,you know office buildings of 30,000, 20,000,
that kind of thing,through this whole site and increase the density even higher. And to give us that. As
far as the right-in/right-out goes too on the access point. First of all,the right-in right now, the way it
would be now versus when the highway's redesigned are two different issues. That's,you know you're
going to have a different traffic flow when you've got your widened highway. All this traffic goes on
Galpin or it goes on Audubon that would otherwise can hear. It's all still going to go onto the highway
so it's just a question of does it flow more easily you know onto the highway when these people are
sitting at the light and flows onto it in that point. So I think we can certainly do a traffic study to address
your concern and I think that we have talked with traffic people,you know previously when we were
looking at this before so we have had done that. So we are very open. It is our desire to get as much
density as we can on here. I guess that's the point. We would also put in place,we've already been
talking with the church extensively about putting in place a parking contract in essence,or with the,
running with the parcels,where everyone would have to abide by those rules. That there may,each user
may have some small portion of private parking right next to it's door. I mean the pastor may need a spot
and a few people may have almost invariably they want something right in front of their door that's a few
minor spots that are always there. Even if they come in on a Sunday morning and the church is in
session,that they have a place you know,a couple people have a place to go. But other than that,there
will be cross over parking throughout and we are showing,we can also work with moving the road one
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way or the other. We've been trying to put it where it is because of the power line. We're losing space
because of the power line no matter what we do. So we have to work around that but we can swing the
road a little bit one way or the other to make some of that parking fall on the other side of the road
instead of on the church's side. The church has moved it's orientation you know quite a few times
already and they have some ability to put some extra parking spaces along the side of their building that
could be used for that northern side of the site as well. So we certainly are willing to address those
issues.
Mayor Mancino: Okay. ...density and keep tax base of CI on there to shared parking. Let it work with
the PUD. Also keep the church here. See if we can make it all work and be a benefit to the community.
But there are definite things that I think still need to be worked on. 1 don't want to see it come back
before I would approve a PUD. Was that clear enough?
Councilman Berquist: I understand you.
Mayor Mancino: Other councilmembers?
Councilman Mason: This is conceptual.
Mayor Mancino: Well I just want to make sure I am for staff and I am for the applicant. Are there any
questions...from staff for us?
Kate Aanenson: No,I think we've got pretty good direction.
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Councilman Berquist: Question for...given our concern about...is it within our right to be able to restrict
a use within a building? For instance,I don't know if you're looking at a copy of what... Let's say we
have a 50,000 square foot building. We wanted to,we didn't want to,well there's a clinic that wants to
go in here. We have clinics downtown. There's an interest by perspective,protecting those clinics...is it
possible for a body like us to put limitations on...limitations on specific properties?
Roger Knutson: The short answer is yes...short answer. There might be some enforcement issues.
Kate Aanenson: Well they're requesting a PUD so...that's how the staff approaches it. We didn't
recommend...
Roger Knutson: And the concept that you're really talking about, identified in certain land uses you
wanted to be in the downtown area. You want a viable downtown area. You don't want them to
start...your downtown...that kind of goes to the heart of planning. if you've got...basic planning...
Mayor Mancino: And every time you want...I just have a couple other things that I just wrote down to
make it real clear,or I had staff help me write down and that is. Just under parking I said comprehensive
pedestrian walkways shall be provided between them and within all parking lots. The buildings and the
public sidewalk and trail system. Parking shall be provided based on the shared use of surface parking
areas. Permanent cross access easements and a joint parking facility shall be protected by the record
instrument acceptable to the city. Under landscaping and landscaping islands,peninsulas and boulevards
shall be incorporated as part of the pedestrian walkway system within the parking lot areas. This may
require larger landscaped islands,peninsulas and boulevards. And I just put under miscellaneous to
make sure the CI base there is,the developer leaves and commits to provide the minimum of 200,000
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square feet of commercial industrial office warehouse uses within the Bluff Creek Corporate Center. So
with that do we need,for conceptual agreement.
Don Ashworth: Roger and I were talking...require four fifths. Discussing the potential for a motion...
approving subject to the applicant meeting the...
Kate Aanenson: Yeah,we were just talking. I know concept requires a public hearing and concept does
require a majority...
Roger Knutson: Four fifths. I looked.
Kate Aanenson: We've written it all down. I think we're pretty comfortable...
Don Ashworth: ...applicant approving it subject to the applicant...
Mayor Mancino: Gosh,I've got a list here I think of all my concerns and... May I have a motion please.
Councilman Berquist: Move concept approval with the Minutes of this meeting being used as the
criteria to go back to the applicant and staff...
Councilman Mason: Second.
Mayor Mancino: I love that. Yes.
Roger Knutson: I don't know if I should interject too much. Just to point out procedurally where you're
at. Four of you...the motion was made and seconded. If that fails,to reconsider, someone who voted on
the prevailing side much move to hear it at the following meeting.
Councilman Mason: That voted on the prevailing side?
Roger Knutson: Right.
Don Ashworth: ...again,he can go...
Roger Knutson: Effectively,yes. There are court decisions.
Councilman Berquist: Well you know what my motion is, it's predicated,we all made comments.
Whether I vote no or Mark votes no or Mike or Nancy, it makes no difference. But my motion is to take
the comments that were made and put something together that is amenable for all of us. Hopefully.
Councilman Senn: Well it sounds like we can do that without a motion. I mean if that's.
Councilman Berquist: That's what Kate's saying.
Kate Aanenson: I didn't go with...
Mayor Mancino: Legally Roger.
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Roger Knutson: To advance to the next step,which is preliminary approval,you have to officially get by
this step. So they can't.
Mayor Mancino: So we have to vote on the motion?
Roger Knutson: At some point. I mean you could give staff direction to work on it and bring it back but
at some point you're going to have to vote up or down concept approval. It wouldn't necessarily have to
be tonight but at some point.
Mayor Mancino: Well even if it's voted down,they'd come back with another concept anyway.
Roger Knutson: Well if it's voted down and there's no motion to reconsider,that's the way it was,you'd
have to start back from ground one. Back to the Planning Commission.
Mayor Mancino: I'll be gone the next meeting...
Councilman Berquist: ...motion to table it and.
Mayor Mancino: And come back with a new concept plan.
Kate Aanenson: No.
Roger Knutson: You're looking at as part of the PUD right now.
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Councilman Berquist: I don't think it will hold you up from a timing point. It's only going to hold you
really up with is formal approval process...
Kate Aanenson: I don't think the Planning Commission would approve the preliminary PUD without
Council approving the concept. We'll figure that out.
Mayor Mancino: We'll figure that out. That's fine.
Councilman Mason: We should withdraw the second then? _
Roger Knutson: Or vote.
Councilman Berquist: Motion stands.
Councilman Mason: So does the second.
Councilman Berquist moved,Councilman Mason seconded to approve Concept PUD #97-2,noting
the discussion outlined in the Minutes and subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall submit site coverage and impervious surface calculations for each lot and the
overall site.
2. Staff recommends that the church commit to provide approximately 160 parking stalls for the industrial
office users of the property.
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3. Staff recommends that the amount of parking and impervious surface on Lots 2 and 3 be reduced.
4. Staff believes that a U-shaped building on the northerly portion of the property would be more
appropriate to address pedestrian circulation to the proposed warehouse as well as address the sight
lines for the truck loading facility. Staff would recommend that the building orientation be primarily
toward Highway 5 and Coulter Boulevard,especially for Lots 1 and 2,rather than the orientation shown
on the concept plan. This would require the building on Lot 1 to be reoriented 90 to 180 degrees and
the building on Lot 2 to be reoriented 90 degrees. Staff would also suggest that the church investigate a
walkout type facility,similar to that used for the St. Hubert Catholic Community in Villages on the
Ponds,to help reduce site grading.To improve the layout, staff suggests to design a parking lot on
both sides of the building and add sidewalks.
5. Staff strongly recommends all 34 boulevard trees be preserved and guaranteed by the applicant.
Where trees need to be removed for entrances,they must be replaced elsewhere along Coulter
Boulevard. Protective tree fencing shall be installed around all boulevard trees prior to any grading
activity.
6. Additional landscape islands are required in the parking lots; a minimum of one island for each 6,000
square feet of vehicular use area.
7. The loading docks of the southern warehouse building are visible from Coulter Boulevard and
require evergreen plantings to screen the area.
8. Visibility of the expansive parking lots from Highway 5 should be limited as much as possible.
9. The applicant shall incorporate increased evergreen plantings and berms to obstruct sight lines into
the parking areas.
10. Plantings along Bluff Creek and the proposed storm water pond should be chosen based on wildlife
food and/or cover value. Proposed overstory and ornamental trees could be a choice of quaking
aspen, amur maple,willows,black cherry, serviceberry, swamp white oak,or aborvitae while
proposed shrubs could include highbush cranberry, winterberry, elders, sumac,and red-osier
dogwood. City staff shall approve final landscape schedule.
1 1. In lieu of parkland dedication and public trail development,the city shall collect full park and trail
dedication fees for this development. In the event that the applicant deems the dedication of the
"creek" outlots into public domain desirable, the Park& Recreation Commission would review this
offer. But, again,no park fee credits would be granted.
12. The applicant is required to plan private internal trail connectors from their site to the surrounding
public trail system,thus maximizing their benefit of the recreation system already in place.
13. The applicant shall dedicate a 20 ft. trail easement over the trail segment located in the southeast
corner of the site that lays outside the Coulter Boulevard right-of-way.
14. The development shall maintain the natural vegetation and landscape where it still exists, intensify the
proposed landscape plan along the creek to improve the buffer and to keep setbacks from the creek at
a minimum of 100 feet with a 50 foot buffer area.
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15. This area has been identified by the Bluff Creek Management Plan,as a candidate for floodplain
forest restoration. The applicant shall incorporate some element of forest restoration in the
landscape plan along both branches of bluff creek.
16. The developer shall supply the City with a detailed haul route for review and approval by staff for
materials imported to or exported from the site. If the material is proposed to be hauled off-site to
another location in Chanhassen,that property owner will be required to obtain an earthwork permit
from the City.
17. The applicant's engineer should review the possibility of connecting into the City's existing storm
sewer in Coulter Boulevard from the southerly drainage pond or combining the pond with the
proposed storm water basin north of the church. If the developer desires to construct the southerly
pond,the City shall not be responsible for maintenance and the developer shall not receive credit
against their SWMP fees.
18. All ponding basin side slopes shall be 4:1 overall or 3:1 with a 10:1 bench at the normal water
elevation.
19. The grading,drainage and erosion control plan shall incorporate temporary sediment basins to
address site runoff during the grading operations.
20. The storm sewer system shall be designed for a 10-year, 24-hour storm event. Ponding calculations
and drainage maps including pre-and post-development conditions for a 10-year and 100-year storm
event will also be required by City staff for review and approval prior to final plat consideration.
21. The applicant shall work with MnDOT in coordinating the storm drainage system from Trunk
Highway 5 into the proposed stormwater basin north of the church site. The applicant may be
entitled to credits against their SWMP fees as a result of pond oversizing and pipe extension.
22. The public street and utility improvements throughout the development will require detailed
construction plans and specifications in accordance with the City's latest edition of standard
specifications and detail plates. Final construction plans and specifications shall be submitted for
City Council approval. The private utilities shall also be constructed in accordance with City's
Standard Specifications and Detail Plates.
23. The developer will be required to enter into a PUD Agreement/Development Contract with the City
and provide the necessary financial security to guarantee utility and street construction as well as the
final plat conditions of approval.
24. The proposed wet tap on the watermain near the trail in the southeasterly corner of the site shall be
relocated to avoid interference with the existing trail.
25. Public streets shall be incorporated to provide access to all three lots. A 60-foot wide right-of-way
with a 60-foot radius cul-de-sac shall be incorporated into the site plan. The private street shall be
constructed to a 9-ton design.
26. All parking lot drive aisles adjacent to 90 degree parking shall be a minimum of 26-feet wide
pursuant to City Code. Drive aisle configurations near the intersection of Lots 1,2 and 3 lot line
shall be reconfigured to minimize drive aisle points onto main street.
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27. The developer's right for a future right-in/right-out access to Trunk Highway 5 shall be extinguished
upon final platting unless the developer negotiates with MnDOT to transfer the right-in/right-out
access to the adjacent property to the east.
28. The City's standards for boulevard street lighting shall be incorporated in the public portion of the
streets.
_ 29. A 10 foot clear space must be maintained around fire hydrants, i.e., street lamps,trees, shrubs,
bushes,NSP,US West,Cable TV and transformer boxes. This is to ensure that fire hydrants can be
quickly located and safely operated by firefighters. Pursuant to Chanhassen City Ordinance 9-1.
30. Install post indicator valve on fire water service coming into the building. Contact Chanhassen Fire
Marshal or Fire Inspector for exact location.
31. An additional fire hydrant will be required near the church main entrance. Contact Chanhassen Fire
Marshal for exact location of hydrant.
32. When fire protection including fire apparatus access roads and water supplies for fire protection is
required. Such protection shall be installed and made serviceable prior to and during time of
construction. Pursuant to Minnesota Uniform Fire Code 1991 Sect. 10-502.
33. "No parking" fire lane signs and yellow curbing shall be provided. Contact the Chanhassen Fire
Marshal for exact locations of signage and painted curbing. Pursuant to Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Policy#06-1991. Copy enclosed.
34. Fire apparatus access roads shall be provided for every facility, building or portion of a building,
hereafter constructed or moved into or within jurisdiction when any portion of the facility, or any
portion of an exterior wall of the first story of the building, is located more than 150 feet from
apparatus access as measured by an approved route around the exterior of the building or facility.
Exception:
When buildings are completely protected with an approved automatic sprinkler system the
provisions of this section may be modified by the Chief.
When access roads cannot be installed due to topography,waterways,non negotiable grades or
other similar conditions, the Chief is authorized to require additional fire protection as specified
in Section 10.501 (b). Note: As building plans become available we will review the plan to
determine if standpipes are required in any portion of the building due to the fact that we cannot
achieve 150 foot access of all portions of the building."
All voted in favor and the motion carried. (After discussion regarding Councilman Senn's first
vote to abstain.)
Councilman Senn: I'm abstaining.
Roger Knutson: The motion fails. If you abstain the motion fails unless you abstain because of a
conflict of interest. You need four votes.
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Councilman Senn: Why is that?
Mayor Mancino: I thought a vote of silence is a yes.
Roger Knutson: That's not an abstention. That's not the same thing. Saying silence,your vote is
recorded as approval. If you formally abstain without a conflict of interest,you don't get the required
four fifths vote. What the Supreme Court.
Councilman Senn: Roger,you have to explain these things before hand.
Roger Knutson: What the Supreme Court has said.
Mayor Mancino: Why don't you ask to retake the vote.
Roger Knutson: When someone abstains because of a conflict of interest,the size of the Council is seen
to be reduced by that vote or that person so we no longer have a five person Council. We have a four
person Council.
Councilman Senn: Okay.
Kate Aanenson: Can I have a clarification of your motion? Your motion was just to outline the Minutes mop
criteria and come back? It wasn't for concept? The motion was not for concept approval.
Roger Knutson: I thought it was.
Councilman Senn: Yes it was.
Kate Aanenson: We needed that clarification.
Mayor Mancino: Yes it«as. It was. —
Councilman Senn: Either that or I misheard it. I took it to be Council.
Kate Aanenson: I thought he restated it.
Mayor Mancino: Councilman Senn?
Councilman Senn: Yeah,I say let's go for another vote but I'm going to make a statement when the
vote's done.
Mayor Mancino: Okay,that's fine. Can you do that? Why don't you make the statement and then we'll
go for another vote.
Councilman Senn: Okay I will but...
Roger Knutson: That's fine.
Councilman Senn: You know again,conceptually as I stated,I have no problems with what the church
group's presenting. In my mind I have a very difficult time with a decision to simply take a piece of CI
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property, which could normally produce somewhere in the neighborhood of S200,000.00 of property
taxes,and turn it into zero. And with the realization that the existing site will remain as zero. Okay.
And with the realization that,we've been through this before. We keep talking about it but there's still
no understanding as to overall net effect and where this all comes out in the end. Okay. I do not take
that decision lightly. I am not prepared to make that decision tonight,okay. But I will vote yes on this
because I'm not going to let,what I consider sometimes to be an idiotic procedural rule to govern over
how many people need to be here and vote on this or that or whatever,okay. You three are obviously
very comfortable with that decision and are prepared to charge ahead but I am not. Okay. But I will
_ accept that the three of you are and I will change my vote to yes to allow this to go forward on that basis,
but I'm not,you know again, I'm not comfortable with it. I'm prepared to say yes...decision at this time.
Councilman Berquist: I just want to say that I understand, I think I truly understand where you're coming
from and after...the conversation that we had a few times in the past,every time we get a little closer to
getting some things worked out. I look at this as an issue of stewardship. There are many different forms
of stewardship. Not only financial. Am I completely comfortable with this? No. But there's a lot of
things in life that I end up doing and going ahead with that I'm not really comfortable with. Am I
comfortable enough to grant it tacit approval? Yes. Therein lies the reason for my motion.
Councilman Senn: Well, I understand that Steve but I also am not convinced there isn't a residential
property where this could sit on. Maybe it's not right on Highway 5, but I look at what staff has given us
...I don't know. Again,I don't think we have enough information at this point to make that. ...if we do
or we don't. All we've done is evaluated a site that somebody has made an application on. Limit your
discussion and you limit your purview of...and kind of lose track of the rest of it. So I will, I don't know
if you have to revote but I'll change my vote.
Roger Knutson: Mayor,that would be sufficient. Councilman Senn has changed his vote to a yes,
therefore the motion passes.
Mayor Mancino: Okay,thank you Roger. Everybody understand that? Good. Good. I want to take one
more second in this discussion to say,what I would like to do is to have a discussion as a Council, and all
of us. If this does come up again,as far as could...the way Mark has quantified and there's no question,
to quantify numbers and tax base. It's much easier to do that than some of the social and...from non
profit but what I'd like to do is to talk about in CI property, is there a percentage,and over percentage
that cannot be non-profit? I mean this may happen again. At a certain point do we say, and I don't know
how hard and fast...that over 10% in any CI zoned property,that we will absolutely not allow over 15%
to ever go non taxes. You know into a non-tax producing. Can we do that Roger?
Roger Knutson: We had this discussion a while back. The short answer is no.
Mayor Mancino: Oh. Well forget everything...
Roger Knutson: You can kind of get there. You can restrict uses but, like churches you can keep
churches out of certain districts and you can keep this kind of use out of the district and that kind of use
out of a certain district but when you talk about non-profit.
Kate Aanenson: That includes group homes.
Roger Knutson: That's not a use. That's a tax status. I think my last example was, I may be a, the only
one that comes to mind. I may be a publishing house. I manufacture books. Whether it's on the payroll
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or, whether it's on the tax rolls or not, it may just happen to be based upon who owns the darn thing. If
the church owns it, it may not be on the tax roll. And if it's privately owned, and a profit corporation, it
would. The use is the same inside except for, who happens to own it. That's not a use issue. You can
control the use issue so you can look at the non-traditional non-profit type uses and put it that way. This
couldn't have an ordinance that says not more than 15% non-profit because that's not a...
Mayor Mancino: Okay. So if we knew we were going to have the balance of financial strength...and
spiritual strength in our community. So we get to balance those two all the time and they're not mutually
exclusive.
Councilman Berquist: Do you remember the wordage we used in...Gateway? Mark...words in a
development contract,as I recall, that was...gave Council the ability to look at any non taxing...
Councilman Senn: No,we weren't able to do that. We talked about it. _
Mayor Mancino: Because of what Roger just said,yeah.
Kate Aanenson: No. We restricted the percentage of commercial. What could be in there.
Councilman Senn: Another one of those back door...
Mayor Mancino: Well, I think we're ready for, is everybody ready to go ahead?
CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE 1998 POSITION CLASSIFICATION AND PAY —
COMPENSATION PLAN AND 1998 GOALS.
Mayor Mancino: Somebody's going to have to explain to me what all this means.
Councilman Senn: Could I,given the hour, etc. A lot of the issues, you know a number of issues have
been addressed that were raised with last year's classification plan but I would really rather see this put _
on a work session and go through it in detail and talk about some of the issues in it versus doing that
tonight. I don't know how the rest of the Council feels about that. We did provide a fair amount of
correction last year to what we'd like to see and the issues we would like to have addressed and like I
say, a good attempt's been made to do some of that and I would really like to challenge and talk about it
in depth and detail and I think if we start doing that tonight...
Don Ashworth: Well what would Council think...
Mayor Mancino: I had just written the next work session, which is a holiday. I will be back for the.
Councilman Mason: There will be a work session that day anyway.
Mayor Mancino: Yeah, so I will be back for the first work session in February,which is what? February —
l51 or 2"d? Yeah. ...and I would do this and I'll be here. If we...to February 2nd. We have nothing on
our work session for that anyway. But if we do put it on the February 2"d work session, I want to make
sure that the questions that Councilmen have and Councilmember Senn said he had some and I have a
few,that we give them to you prior to the work session so you can be prepared at the work session to
answer those specific questions and we just don't keep coming up with new ones. That we frame some
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Minnesota Department of Transportation
$4. 46 Metropolitan Division
Waters Edge
1500 West County Road B2
Roseville,MN 55113
December 1, 1997
Robert Generous
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive,P.O.Box 147
Chanhassen,MN 55317 ^,.-r.
Dear Robert Generous: -
SUBJECT: Bluff Creek Corporate Center
Preliminary Plat Review P97-125
South of Trunk Highway(TH)5 at Coulter Boulevard/Stone Creek Drive
Chanhassen,Carver County
C.S. 1002
The Minnesota Department of Transportation(Mn/DOT)has reviewed the Bluff Creek Corporate
Center preliminary plat in compliance with Minnesota Statute 505.03,subd.2,Plats. We do not
find the plat acceptable for further development until the following issues are resolved:
• It appears that the proposed office/warehouse building in the northeast corner of the site
may be within Mn/DOT construction limits for the TH 5 expansion project and may also
interfere with a proposed city street. See enclosed Preliminary Plan for location of
Mn/DOT construction limits.
• It is in the city's best interest to work with Mn/DOT to ensure that adequate right of way
is reserved to accommodate the TH 5 project. Drainage provisions must also be
coordinated with this project.
The above issues must be resolved through coordination with our Transportation Planning
and Consultant Design Sections. Evan Green,of our Transportation Planning Section,
may be contacted at 582-1303 and Cheri Olson,of our Consultant Design Section,may be
contacted at 582-1285.
Once the above issues have been resolved,we find the plat acceptable for further development
with consideration of the following comments:
• Any costs associated with moving of existing power poles and rerouting of power lines
will be the responsibility of the project proposer,the city or both.
• Mn/DOT right of way appears to be adequately identified by the plat. Our Surveys
Section has not verified the accuracy of the property boundaries in the field.
An equal opportunity employer
Robert Generous
December 1, 1997
page two
• Stormwater drainage from the proposed site does not appear to flow to TH 5 right of
way. A Mn/DOT drainage permit may be required if this condition changes or the
development otherwise alters patterns or runoff affecting TH 5. The Riley Purgatory —
Bluff Creek Watershed District,the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources,and the
Army Corps of Engineers may also need to review this plan.
• To preserve highway safety and capacity,we request that the plat dedicate control over
access to the highway to the public. Questions regarding right of way documentation may
be directed to Mary Martin of our Right of Way Section at 582-1635.Please forward a
copy of the final plat to Mary Martin at the above address. —
• Any use of or work within Mn/DOT right of way will require an approved Mn/DOT
permit. The permit required depends upon the nature of the proposed work.Bill Warden
of our Permits Section may be contacted 582-1443 for further information regarding the —
permit process.
Please contact me at 582-1383 with any questions regarding this review.
Sincerely,
Lisa Christianson
Transportation Planner/Local Government Liaison
c_ John Freemyer,Carver County Surveyor —
Roger Gustafson,Carver County Engineer
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STAFF REPORT
PROPOSAL: Request for Site Plan Review for Bandimere Community Park and City
Center Park
LOCATION: Bandimere Community Park, Hwy 101 and Kiowa Trail
City Center Park, Kerber Blvd. and City Center Drive (North of City Hall)
—< APPLICANT: City of Chanhassen
V 690 City Center Drive
Chanhassen, MN 55317
a+ PRESENT ZONING: Bandimere Park: A-2, Agricultural Estate District
U- City Center Park: OI, Office Institutional District
-< ACREAGE: Bandimere Community Park, 37 acres
City Center Park, 10 acres
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE:
Bandimere Park
N - PUD-R, Planned Unit Development, Residential
S- A-2, Agricultural Estate District
E - RSF, Single Family Residential District
W- A-2, Agricultural Estate District
City Center Park
N - PUD-R, Planned Unit Development, Residential
R-12, High Density Residential District
Q S- OI, Office Institutional District
1___ E - RSF, Single Family Residential District
1.71.
. W-PUD-R, Planned Unit Development, Residential
LLI WATER AND SEWER: Bandimere Community Park: •
City Center Park: Water is available to the site.
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Planning Commission
April 1, 1998 —
Page 2
PHYSICAL CHARACTER: Currently, the site for Bandimere Park is unimproved. It
has pockets of large trees with some small hilly areas. The
site slopes toward the existing Bandimere Neighborhood
Park. —
The site for City Center Park is utilized as a park with
tennis courts,ball fields, ice rinks and a playground. —
2000 LAND USE PLAN: Bandimere Community Park: Parks/Open Space
City Center Park: Public and Public/Semi-Public
APPLICABLE REGULATIONS —
Section 20-107 states that site plan approval must be granted when the expansion or change of
the use of land or modify a site or land feature in any manner which results in a different intensity —
of use, including the requirement for additional parking.
Section 20-1176 requires that a landscape buffer yard be created between incompatible uses. —
Section 20-1181 requires vehicular uses areas to be landscaped with perimeter and interior
plantings.
PROPOSAL/SUMMARY
The Park and Recreation Department has preliminary master plans for the development of
Bandimere Community Park and the redevelopment of City Center Park. The Bandimere
Community Park master plan states that it is a community park for residents south of Hwy. 212
and a youth athletic complex for community-wide use. The City Center Park plan indicates that
is aimed to tie to City Hall, the Fire Station, Chanhassen Elementary School and surrounding —
neighborhoods through landscaping and trails.
BACKGROUND —
The $4.9 million park bond referendum, approved in June 1997, has allocated funding for the
improvement of both Bandimere Community and City Center Parks. This funding will enable —
the southern portion of the City to be served by a community recreational facility and the
redevelopment of a central recreational facility.
The plans for Bandimere Community Park have taking form since 1989 when the land was
acquired. The site has been utilized as agricultural land and the City compost site. Recreational
facilities do not currently exist on the site. City Center Park has been in existence since the late —
1960s when Chanhassen Elementary School was constructed. The park has limited recreational
facilities such as ball fields, ice rinks and trails.
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998
Page 3
The plans for the parks have been discussed at two meetings. The first park development
meeting was held on November 18, 1997. The Park and Recreation Commission held a public
hearing on January 13, 1998.
GENERAL SITE PLAN/ARCHITECTURE
Bandimere Community Park
The master plan calls for the construction of three soccer fields, three ball fields,two parking and
trials. A shelter containing rest rooms will be constructed just south of the northern parking lot in
a future phase. Buffering is proposed between the park and an adjacent residential neighborhood.
The overall plan indicates that the perimeter of the park will be outlined with native prairies and
wildflowers.
City Center Park
The preliminary master park plan for City Center park indicates six youth soccer fields, three
youth ball fields, a play area and hard court in addition to the existing tennis courts and two ice
rinks. A warming house and picnic shelter is proposed to be constructed in a future phase.
ACCESS
Traffic Circulation
Bandimere Community Park
The main access to the park is proposed from Trunk Highway 101. Additional trail connections
to Kiowa Trail and Springfield subdivision are proposed from a pedestrian access standpoint.
The access point at Trunk Highway 101, given the site constraints, is the best possible location
with regards to sight lines along Trunk Highway 101. A bypass lane will be incorporated along
southbound Trunk Highway 101 to provide a protected left turn into the park. A right turn lane is
proposed on northbound Trunk Highway 101. Staff has worked with the consultant engineer to
redesign the entrance to the park from Trunk Highway 101. The current configuration is
proposed to be revised to a tee type intersection which would permit free turning movement for
vehicles entering the park to go north or south(see Attachment No. 1). The north and south legs
of the intersection would be stopped to permit inbound traffic to flow smoothly and not cause a
backup onto Trunk Highway 101.
Another area staff believes should be revisited is the northerly parking lot. Its circular design
creates a"Y"type intersection which impairs visibility for vehicles leaving the parking lot at the
"Y." Staff believes this intersection should be perpendicular which would improve sight lines
(see Attachment No. 2). The reconfiguration of the parking lot will not affect the number of
parking stalls proposed.
The parking lot drive aisles need to be revised in accordance with City Code. Drive aisles
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998 —
Page 2
without parking are proposed at 25 feet wide face to face which meets City Code; however, the
drive aisle through the parking areas are required to be 26 feet wide. It appears,based on the
dimensions, that there is sufficient room to increase the drive aisle width to 26 feet and maintain
a 19-1/2 foot parking stall which also meets City Code. All drive aisles and parking areas are
proposed to have B612 concrete curb and gutter. Additional traffic islands may be appropriate in
the southerly parking lot to break up the large pavement area. Upon review of the proposed
pavement section/design, staff is concerned that the pavement section may be too light to support
activities given the soil characteristics in the area. The pavement section will be re-evaluated
after consulting a soils engineer and increased accordingly.
The park plans propose numerous meandering trails throughout the park. The trails are proposed
at 10 feet wide which is slightly larger than the City's standard trail section of 8 feet. In an effort
to reduce costs, the trails could be reduced to 8 feet in width.
City Center Park
Vehicular access to the park is proposed from Kerber Boulevard through the existing City Hall
parking lot or the school's parking lots off Laredo Drive. The plans do not propose any
significant parking lot improvements. Engineering staff questions if the existing parking —
facilities will be sufficient to support the activities. During peak use,park visitors utilize on-
street parking along the east side of Kerber Boulevard and City Hall and school parking lots.
Bituminous trails are proposed throughout the park with connections to Kerber Boulevard, —
Laredo Drive and Santa Vera Drive.
UTILITIES
Bandimere Community Park
Upon review of the plans there are no proposals for extension of sewer or water service into the
park at this time. The plans do propose irrigation systems for the ball fields and a future park
shelter. Depending on the bidding climate, an alternative to extend sewer and water may be —
included in the bidding package. Sanitary sewer is currently available from Kiowa Trail near the
existing playground. Water service will be available as a result of the Springfield Addition at the
end of Kiowa Trail and West 921Id Street in the summer of 1998. Staff is recommending that
sanitary sewer be extended to the future park shelter in an effort to minimize disruption and
additional costs for trail replacement in the future. An existing sewer service stub is available
from Kiowa Trail. Water service can easily be extended in the future from West 92nd Street with
limited disruption to park improvements. All sewer and water improvements shall be installed in
accordance with the City's Standards and Specifications or State plumbing codes.
City Center Park
Water service is available from City Hall's north parking lot. Sanitary sewer service is not
directly available to the site without open cutting Kerber Boulevard or Laredo Drive,although
the school has a sanitary sewer in the south parking lot that may be extended should sanitary
sewer service be desired.
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998
Page 3
The existing fire hydrant located west of the ice rinks and north of City Hall service drive may
need to be adjusted as a result of gracing and trail construction.
LANDSCAPING
The City requires landscaping to enhance or maintain the natural environment. This landscaping
�.. aims to protect surrounding property values as well as reduce noise pollution, air pollution, visual
pollution and glare. Landscaping will be required around the perimeter of both of the parks
because of all the activity that is proposed to take place.
Bandimere Community Park
An overall planting plan is proposed. The plan indicates that this park is insufficiently
landscaped. According to the ordinance, one tree shall be planted for each two hundred fifty
(250) square feet of required landscape area. There are two proposed parking areas in this park.
The plan indicates that there are nine(9)trees to be planted in the northern lot. The ordinance
requires eighteen(18)trees to be planted. Therefore,the plan is deficient nine (9) trees. Staff
believes that these trees should be planted in central parking island and in the southern boundary
of the parking lot.
The southern parking area is proposed to have nineteen(19) trees when the ordinance requires
twenty-six (26). It is deficient seven(7)trees. Staff believes that each row of parking shall have
an additional landscape island to serve the required trees. This will also break up the expansive
parking area. Overall the vehicular areas are lacking sixteen(16)trees.
The ordinance also requires landscape buffering between noncompatible land uses to protect the
surrounding neighborhoods. The planting plan indicates that native prairies will be located
around the perimeter of the park. However, additional plantings are still required.
The requirements indicate that"Buffer Yard B"should be utilized between Bandimere Park and
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surrounding residential uses. The ordinance requires that if a property abuts a road it must meet
100 percent of the landscape required for a buffer yard. However, if a property abuts another use,
if must meet 75 percent of the required buffer yard. The adjacent property is essentially
responsible for the remaining 25 percent. The following tables indicate the number of canopy,
understory and shrubs required for each area of the park:
bye
Hwy. 101 (park entrance south to Kiowa Trail)
�,. Existing/Proposed Type Buffer Required Overall Required
by Ordinance
None Canopy 15 15
Understory 30 30
Shrubs 46 46
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998 —
Page 4
East Park/Kiowa Trail
Existing/Proposed Type Buffer Required Overall Required
by Ordinance —
25 Canopy 8 0
6 Understory 15 0
Shrubs 23 17
North Parking Lot
Existing/Proposed Type Buffer Required Overall Required
by Ordinance
Canopy 5 4
9 Understory 10 0
Shrubs 15 11 —
West of Open Soccer Field —
Existing/Proposed Type Buffer Required Overall Required
by Ordinance
Canopy 3 2
8 Understory 5 0
Shrubs 8 5
North of Open Soccer Field
Existing/Proposed Type Buffer Required Overall Required —
by Ordinance
None Canopy 6 5
Understory 11 8 —
Shrubs 17 13
East of Open Soccer Field
Existing/Proposed Type Buffer Required Overall Required
by Ordinance
None Canopy 5 4
Understory 10 8 —
Shrubs 14 11
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998
Page 5
City Center Park
This park plan does not call for additional parking so supplementary landscaping will not be
required for the vehicular areas. However, buffering the park from adjacent land uses will be
required. A landscape buffer does exist on the western portion of the park along Kerber
Boulevard so additional landscaping will not be required. Also, additional landscaping will not
be required on the west portion of the northern most fields. The proposed and existing plantings
will satisfy the requirements. However, a landscape buffer will be required on the extreme
northern boundary of the park. The requirements of"Buffer Yard B" are used. The following
specifically states where and what type of landscaping should be placed on the site:
West/North Property Line
Existing/Proposed Type Buffer Required Overall Required
by Ordinance
2 Canopy 1 0
13 Understory 2 0
Shrub 3 2
North/Saratoga Circle
Existing/Proposed Type Buffer Required Overall Required
by Ordinance
Canopy 1 1
2 Understory 1 0
Shrub 2 1
North of Elementary School Parking Lot
Existing/Proposed Type Buffer Required Overall Required
by Ordinance
8 Canopy 2 0
4 Understory 4 0
Shrubs 6 5
This landscape plan does indicate a substantial number of plantings on the northern portion of the
park, however, the portion abutting Saratoga Circle is insufficiently landscaped.
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998 —
Page 6
TREE PRESERVATION/.EROSION CONTROL
Bandimere Community Park
The existing conditions indicate that there are several stands of trees of the perimeter of the park.
Some of these areas will be cleared for the proposed ball and soccer fields. There are very few
trees in the interior of park because it was utilized as farmland until recently. The plan shows
that erosion control fencing will be placed around the perimeter of the park. Fencing should be
placed around existing trees during construction —
Staff will be meeting with the consulting engineer to address erosion control measures on the
Bandimere Park plan. Given the size of this development,temporary sediment basins should be
incorporated to control runoff during the site grading operations. The plans will be revised in
accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
City Center Park
The tree removal plan indicates that a large area of trees in the northern portion of the park will
be removed for a ball/soccer field. Also,most of the trees in the interior of the park will be
removed. Again, the removal will allow the construction of ball/soccer fields and a hard court.
A buffer was planted along Kerber Boulevard and the park. The majority of these trees will
remain. Tree protection fencing should be placed around the existing trees during construction.
GRADING/DRAINAGE
Bandimere Community Park
Grading
The majority of the site has been used for agricultural practice in the past. The southerly part of
the site was used as the City's compost site. The east side adjacent to Kiowa Trail contains an
existing park. The southerly portion of the property contains wooded areas on very steep slopes.
The majority of this area will be retained as natural park amenities. Some of the trees are —
proposed to be removed along the southerly slope for construction of a storm water pond. The
nursery trees along the northeasterly portion of the park will be removed as a result of site
grading. Approximately 80%of the property is proposed to be graded to prepare the site for ball
fields and/or parking facilities. Importing or exporting of fill material is not anticipated.
The site is bisected by an existing high-pressure gas line(Williams Brothers Pipeline) which
adds a constraint to the overall site planning. Basically, the gas company will not permit
structures or removal or placement of excess fill material within the pipeline easement area.
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998
Page 7
Drainage
The current plans do meet the City's overall surface water management plan (SWMP) standards
or long term plans. However,we have met with the consulting engineers and have directed them
toward changes that will meet the requirements of SWMP. The required changes include:
• Relocate the storm pond shown south of the park entrance along Hwy. 101.
• Use control structures and pipes instead of rock spillways.
• Eliminate pond east of the northern parking lot and pipe runoff to an expanded existing utility
pond in the existing park.
Ulm • Build sediment traps according to the SWMP, or present acceptable alternatives.
The park needs to provide storm water runoff calculations for both 10 year and 100 year events and
Imo meet City ordinances.
City Center Park
Grading and Drainage
The plans propose on minor reshaping of the existing ball fields north of City Hall. More
significant grading is proposed north of the school in areas of the park which have not been
previously developed. This will result in removal of existing trees. Since storm sewer for the
most part is non-existent in the area, it is necessary to re-grade most of the park area to allow
drainage to be picked up by a proposed storm sewers in the southerly and westerly portions of the
site. Staff has also pointed out an existing drainage concern over the past years from the existing
neighborhood to the north. Currently a drainage swale runs through the properties that conveys
runoff from the future park area adjacent to Santa Vera Drive. The plans are proposed to be
revised to re-grade the park area to improve drainage through the residential properties. The
result of this will require tree removal along Kerber Boulevard in the northwest corner of the site.
A storm sewer will be extended up in this area to convey surface water runoff to the existing
storm sewer in Kerber Boulevard. The Kerber Boulevard storm sewer discharges into a regional
storm water treatment pond south of Market Square. Therefore, no on-site ponding is required.
Drain tile is also proposed to be installed for draining the ice rinks and part of the ball fields to
improve subsurface drainage. The grading plan needs to be revised to incorporate erosion
control measures. Silt fence shall be placed on the downstream side of all grading areas and rock
construction entrances need to be employed at all access points. Catch basins and storm sewer
inlets shall be protected with silt fence until all disturbed areas have been revegetated. Detailed
storm sewer calculations and pre-and post-drainage maps for a 10-year and 100-year storm, 24-
hour event need to be submitted for review and approval.
SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN(SWMP)
Storm Water Quality Fees
The SWMP has established a water quality connection charge for each new development based on
5.
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998
Page 8
land use. Dedication shall be equal to the cost of land and pond volume needed for treatment of the
phosphorus load leaving the site. The requirement for cash in lieu of land and pond construction
shall be based upon a schedule in accordance with the prescribed land use zoning. Values are
calculated using market values of land in the City of Chanhassen plus a value of$2.50 per cubic
yard for excavation of the pond.
Storm Water Quantity Fees
The SWMP has established a connection charge for the different land uses based on an average
city-wide rate for the installation of water quantity systems. This cost includes land acquisition,
proposed SWMP culverts, open channels and storm water ponding areas for runoff storage.
Areas that are platted or have existing development before 1994 are exempt from SWMP fees.
Therefore,no SWMP fees will be assessed for either of these projects.
WETLANDS
There is one wetland on the Bandimere site. This wetland is in an area that has previously been
altered due to agricultural practices. It acts as a storm water runoff pond from the existing fields,
located at the west edge of the existing neighborhood park. It was identified originally as an
Ag/Urban wetland,but recent uses have changed the classification to a Utility wetland. It drains
east to Lake Riley through a 15 driantile pipes under Kiowa trail. Staff recommends that the
wetland be expanded, and additional runoff be piped to this site. Expansion of a Utility wetland
will require a permit but no mitigation.
TRAILS
Bandimere Community Park
The preliminary plan shows trails being construction around the perimeter of the park. The intra-
park trail system will connect with the regional trail, Bandimere Neighborhood Park and adjacent
residential neighborhoods.
City Center Park
Currently, a trail does slice through the center of this park. It connects the Chanhassen
Elementary School with the trail on Kerber Boulevard. The preliminary plan indicates that this
trail will be straightened and an additional trail will connect the park to Saratoga Circle to the
north and Laredo to the east. Also, a trail will intersect the southern portion of the park to
connect Kerber Boulevard to the ice rinks and the Fire Station.
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998
Page 9
LIGHTING/SIGNAGE
Bandimere Community Park
A lighting plan is absent from this preliminary plan. However, parking lot lighting is intended
and the athletic fields will be illuminated in a future phase. The ordinance requires that parking
lot lighting shall be shielded and directed away from the public right-of-way and adjacent
residential uses. Also, to minimize off-site impact, light levels as measured at the property line
shall not exceed one-half footcandle as measured at the property line.
A sign plan has not been submitted with this preliminary plan. However, signage will probably
be located on Hwy. 101. The sign ordinance states that public and institutional signs shall be a
maximum of 24 square feet in area and 5 feet in height. This sign should be placed 10 feet from
the property line. A sign permit shall be required.
City Center Park
A lighting plans is also absent from this plan. No new lighting is proposed for this phase.
Currently, lights are positioned in the tennis courts and ice rinks.
A sign plan was not submitted for City Center Park. However, signage is proposed along Kerber
Boulevard. The sign ordinance states that a monument sign not exceeding 24 square feet in area
and 5 feet in height shall be permitted. Again, this sign should be 10 feet from the property line.
A sign permit shall be required.
IRRIGATION
The preliminary park plans indicate that the parks will be irrigated.
REFUSE COLLECTION
The plans do not address refuse collection. However, staff would like to see that refuse
receptacles be scattered throughout the sites.
SITE PLAN FINDINGS
Bandimere Community Park
In evaluating a site plan and building plan, the city shall consider the development's compliance
with the following:
(1) Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides,
including the comprehensive plan, official road mapping, and other plans that may
be adopted;
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April 1, 1998 —
Page 10
(2) Consistency with this division; —
(3) Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing
tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the
general appearance of the neighboring developed or developing or developing
areas;
(4) Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5) Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with
special attention to the following: —
a. An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and
provision of a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general —
community;
b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping; —
c. Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of
the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and —
neighboring structures and uses; and
d. Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives
and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public
streets, width of interior drives and access points, general interior
circulation, separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement
and amount of parking.
(6) Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision
for surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers, preservation of views, light
and air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations
which may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses. '—
Finding: The proposed park plan does comply with all the requirements of the City Code
with the exception of the vehicular area landscaping and buffer yard requirements. —
Overall, the park is very well designed and does take into account the existing topography
and other neighboring uses.
City Center Park
In evaluating a site plan and building plan, the city shall consider the development's compliance
with the following:
—
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998
Page 11
—
(I) Consistency with the elements and objectives of the city's development guides,
including the comprehensive plan,official road mapping, and other plans that may
be adopted;
— (2) Consistency with this division;
(3) Preservation of the site in its natural state to the extent practicable by minimizing
tree and soil removal and designing grade changes to be in keeping with the
—
general appearance of the neighboring developed or developing or developing
areas;
(4) Creation of a harmonious relationship of building and open space with natural site
features and with existing and future buildings having a visual relationship to the
development;
(5) Creation of functional and harmonious design for structures and site features, with
— special attention to the following:
a. An internal sense of order for the buildings and use on the site and
provision of a desirable environment for occupants, visitors and general
community;
-- b. The amount and location of open space and landscaping;
c. Materials, textures, colors and details of construction as an expression of
the design concept and the compatibility of the same with adjacent and
neighboring structures and uses; and
— d. Vehicular and pedestrian circulation, including walkways, interior drives
and parking in terms of location and number of access points to the public
streets, width of interior drives and access points, general interior
— circulation, separation of pedestrian and vehicular traffic and arrangement
and amount of parking.
(6) Protection of adjacent and neighboring properties through reasonable provision
for surface water drainage, sound and sight buffers,preservation of views, light
and air and those aspects of design not adequately covered by other regulations
— which may have substantial effects on neighboring land uses.
Finding: The proposed park does comply with all the requirements of the City Code
with the exception of the buffer yard requirements. The park is very well designed and
does incorporate existing elements into an overall harmonious facility.
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998 —
Page 12
RECOMMENDATION - Bandimere Community Park
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motion: _
"The Planning Commission approves site plan #98-6 for a Bandimere Community Park, site plan
prepared by Brauer& Associates, dated March 18,. 1998, subject to the following conditions:
1. The planting plan be revised as follows:
• Plant an additional 9 canopy trees in the north parking area
• Construct an additional landscape island for each row of parking and plant 7 canopy trees.
• Plant an additional 15 canopy trees, 30 understory trees and 46 shrubs along Hwy. 101. —
• Plant an additional 17 shrubs on the eastern park near Kiowa Trail.
• Plant an additional 4 canopy trees and 11 shrubs in the north parking area.
• Plant an additional 2 canopy trees and 5 shrubs west of the open soccer field area. —
• Plant an additional 5 canopy trees, 8 understory trees and 13 shrubs north the open soccer
field area.
• Plant an additional 4 canopy trees, 8 understory trees and 11 shrubs along the eastern —
portion of the open soccer field area.
2. A separate sign permit must be submitted and approved. —
3. Existing trees shall be protected by tree fencing during construction.
4. The applicant will need to develop a sediment and erosion control plan in accordance with the
City's Best Management Practice Handbook and the Surface Water Management Plan
requirements for new developments. The plan shall be submitted to the City for review and
formal approval.
5. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored with seed
and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of completion of each activity
in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
6. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations for 10-year and 100-year storm
events and provide ponding calculations for stormwater quality/quantity ponds in accordance
with the City's Surface Water Management Plan for the City Engineer to review and approve.
The applicant shall provide detailed pre-developed and post developed stormwater calculations
for 100-year storm events and normal water level and high water level calculations in existing _
basins, created basins, and or creeks. Individual storm sewer calculations between each catch
basin segment will also be required to determine if sufficient catch basins are being utilized. In
addition, water quality ponding design calculations shall be based on Walker's Pondnet model.
7. The appropriate drainage and utility easements should be dedicated on the final plat for all
utilities and ponding areas lying outside the right-of-way. The easement width shall be a —
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998
Page 13
minimum of 20 feet wide. Consideration should also be given for access for maintenance of the
ponding areas.
8. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles found during
construction and shall re-locate or abandon the drain tile as directed by the City Engineer.
9. Sanitary sewer service should be extended from Kiowa Trail to the proposed building site.
10. The grading plan should be revised to incorporate temporary sediment basins to control
runoff during the site grading phase. Rock construction entrances shall be installed and
maintained at all construction entrances until the streets are paved.
11. The northerly parking lot shall be reconfigured per Attachment No. 2.
12. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be restored with seed and disc-
mulched or sod within two weeks of completion of each activity in accordance with the City's
— Best Management Practice Handbook.
13. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations for 10-year and 100-year storm
— events and provide ponding calculations for stormwater quality/quantity ponds in accordance
with the City's Surface Water Management Plan for the City Engineer to review and approve.
The applicant shall provide detailed pre-developed and post-developed stormwater
— calculations for 100-year storm events and normal water level and high water level
calculations in existing basins, created basins, and/or creeks. Individual storm sewer
calculations between each catch basin segment will also be required to determine if sufficient
catch basins are being utilized. In addition, water quality ponding design calculations shall
be based on Walker's Pondnet model.
14. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies, i.e.
Carver County, Watershed District, Metropolitan Council Environmental Services, Health
Department, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, Minnesota Department of Natural
Resources, Army Corps of Engineers and Minnesota Department of Transportation and
comply with their conditions of approval.
15. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles found during
construction and shall re-locate or abandon the drain tile as directed by the City Engineer.
"- 16. The parking lot drive aisle shall be revised to meet City Code 20-1118
RECOMMENDATION-City Center Park
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motion:
—
"The Planning Commission approves site plan#98-6 for a City Center Park, site plan prepared by
Brauer& Associates, dated March 18,. 1998, subject to the following conditions:
Planning Commission
April 1, 1998 —
Page 14
I. The planting plan be revised as follows:
• Plant an additional 2 shrubs on the west/north property line _
• Plant an additional 1 canopy tree and 1 shrub along Saratoga Circle.
• Plant an additional 5 shrubs in the area north of the Chanhassen Elementary School
parking lot.
2. A separate sign permit must be submitted and approved.
3. Existing trees shall be protected by tree fencing during construction.
4. The applicant will need to develop a sediment and erosion control plan in accordance with the —
City's Best Management Practice Handbook and the Surface Water Management Plan
requirements for new developments. The plan shall be submitted to the City for review and
formal approval. —
5. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored with seed
and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of completion of each activity —
in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
6. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations for 10-year and 100-year storm —
events and provide ponding calculations for stormwater quality/quantity ponds in accordance
with the City's Surface Water Management Plan for the City Engineer to review and approve.
The applicant shall provide detailed pre-developed and post developed stormwater calculations —
for 100-year storm events and normal water level and high water level calculations in existing
basins, created basins, and or creeks. Individual storm sewer calculations between each catch
basin segment will also be required to determine if sufficient catch basins are being utilized. In —
addition, water quality ponding design calculations shall be based on Walker's Pondnet model.
7. The appropriate drainage and utility easements should be dedicated on the final plat for all —
utilities and ponding areas lying outside the right-of-way. The easement width shall be a
minimum of 20 feet wide. Consideration should also be given for access for maintenance of the
ponding areas.
8. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles found during
construction and shall re-locate or abandon the drain tile as directed by the City Engineer. —
9. The grading plan shall be revised to show erosion control measures in accordance with the _
City's Best Management Practice Handbook, i.e. rock construction entrance and silt fence.
10. The contractor shall be limited to one access point along Kerber Boulevard for ingress and —
egress to the site.
11. The fire hydrant located west of the ice rinks, north of City Hall service drive may need to be —
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April 1, 1998
Page 15
adjusted.
12. A sidewalk or trail should be extended to the existing sidewalk in City Hall's north parking
lot on the west side of the building.
13. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be restored with seed and disc-
mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of completion of each activity in
accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
14. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations for 10-year and 100-year storm
events and provide ponding calculations for stormwater quality/quantity ponds in accordance
with the City's Surface Water Management Plan for the City Engineer to review and approve.
The applicant shall provide detailed pre-developed and post-developed stormwater
calculations for 100-year storm events and normal water level and high water level
calculations in existing basins, created basins, and/or creeks. Individual storm sewer
calculations between each catch basin segment will also be required to determine if sufficient
catch basins are being utilized. In addition, water quality ponding design calculations shall
be based on Walker's Pondnet model.
15. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies, i.e.
Carver County, Watershed District, Metropolitan Council Environmental Services, Health
Department, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, Minnesota Department of Natural
Resources, Army Corps of Engineers and Minnesota Department of Transportation and
comply with their conditions of approval."
ATTACHMENTS
1. Bandimere Community Park, Revised North Parking Lot
2. Bandimere Community Park, Revised Park Entrance
3. Memorandum from Phillip Elkin to Cynthia Kirchoff, dated March 24, 1998
4. Memorandum from David Hempel to Cynthia Kirchoff, dated March 26, 1998
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CIIANHASSEN TO: Cynthia Kirchoff, Planner I —
690City Center Drive,PO Box 147 FROM: Philip Elkin, Water Resources Coordinator
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317 —
Phone 612.937.1900 DATE: March 24, 1998
General Fax 612.937.5739
Engineering Fax 612.937.9152 SUBJ: Review of Preliminary Plans for Bandimere and City Center Parks —
Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524
ll"eb Ivu'w.a.chanhassen.mli.us DRAINAGE
The current plans meet the City's overall surface water management plan
(SWMP) standards or long term plans. However, we have met with the
consulting engineers and have directed them toward changes that will meet the
requirements of SWMP. The required changes include:
Bandimere Park
• Relocate the storm pond shown south of the park entrance along Hwy. 101 —
• Use control strt.ctures and pipes instead of rock spillways
• Eliminate pond east of the northern parking lot and pipe runoff to an expanded
existing utility pond in the existing park —
• Build sediment traps according to the SWMP, or present acceptable
alternatives
City Center Park
• Provide runoff calculations to verify proposed volume will work with existing _
system.
Both projects need to provide storm water runoff calculations for both 10 yr. and
100 yr. events and meet City ordinances.
SURFACE WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN (SWMP) —
Storm Water Quality Fees
The SWMP has established a water quality connection charge for each new
subdivision based on land use. Dedication shall be equal to the cost of land and
—
The City of Chanhassen.A growing community with clean lakes,gaality schools,a charming downtown,thriving businesses,and beauttfill parks.A great place to live,work,and ph.,.
Cynthia Kirchman
March 24, 1998
Page 2
_ pond volume needed for treatment of the phosphorus load leaving the site. The requirement for
cash in lieu of land and pond construction shall be based upon a schedule in accordance with the
prescribed land use zoning. Values are calculated using market values of land in the City of
Chanhassen plus a value of$2.50 per cubic yard for excavation of the pond.
Storm Water Quantity Fees
The SWMP has established a connection charge for the different land uses based on an average
city-wide rate for the installation of water quantity systems. This cost includes land acquisition,
proposed SWMP culverts, open channels and storm water ponding areas for runoff storage.
Areas that are platted or have existing development before 1994 are exempt from SWMP fees.
Therefore, no SWMP fees will be assessed for either of these projects.
WETLANDS
There is one wetland on the Bandimere site. This wetland is area that has previously been altered
due to agricultural practices. It acts as a storm water runoff pond from the existing fields, located
at the west edge of the existing neighborhood park. It was identified originally as an Ag/Urban
wetland, but recent uses have changed the classification to Utility wetland. It drains east to Lake
Riley through a 15" drain tile pipe under Kiowa Trail. Staff recommends that the wetland be
expanded and additional runoff be piped to this site. Expansion of a Utility wetland will require
a permit but no mitigation.
Conditions of Approval for Bandimere and City Center Parks
1. The applicant will need to develop a sediment and erosion control plan in accordance with the
City's Best Management Practice Handbook and the Surface Water Management Plan
requirements for new developments. The plan shall be submitted to the City for review and
formal approval
2. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored with seed
and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of completion of each activity
in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
3. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations for 10-year and 100-year storm
events and provide ponding calculations for stormwater quality/quantity ponds in accordance
with the City's Surface Water Management Plan for the City Engineer to review and approve.
The applicant shall provide detailed pre-developed and post developed stormwater calculations
for 100-year storm events and normal water level and high water level calculations in existing
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basins,created basins, and or creeks. Individual storm sewer calculations between each catch
basin segment will also be required to determine if sufficient catch basins are being utilized. In
addition, water quality ponding design calculations shall be based on Walker's Pondnet model.
4. The appropriate drainage and utility easements should be dedicated on the final plat for all
utilities and ponding areas lying outside the right-of-way. The easement width shall be a
minimum of 20 feet wide. Consideration should also be given for access for maintenance of the —
ponding areas.
5. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles found during —
construction and shall re-locate or abandon the drain tile as directed by the City Engineer.
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- CITY OF
CHANHASSEN MEMORANDUM
690 CityCenter Drive,POBox l47 TO: Cynthia Kirchoff, Planner I
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317
Phone 612.9371900
FROM: Dave Hempel, Assistant City Engineer
General Fax 612.937.5739
Engineering Fax 612.937 9152 DATE: March 26, 1998
`Public Safety Fax 612.934.2524
lt"eb wwu:ci.chanhassen•mn.us SUBJ: Review of Bandimere and City Center Parks Site Plans
File No. 98-8 LUR
L Upon review of the plans prepared by Brauer& Associates dated March 18, 1998,
I offer the following comments and recommendations:
BANDIMERE PARK
GRADING
The majority of the site has been used for agricultural practice in the past. The
southerly part of the site was used as the City's compost site. The east side
adjacent to Kiowa Trail contains an existing park. The southerly portion of the
property contains wooded areas on very steep slopes. The majority of this area
will be retained as natural park amenities. Some of the trees are proposed to be
removed along the southerly slope for construction of a storm water pond. The
nursery trees along the northeasterly portion of the park will be removed as a
result of site grading. Approximately 80% of the property is proposed to be
graded to prepare the site for ball fields and/or parking facilities: Importing or
exporting of fill material is not anticipated.
The site is bisected by an existing high-pressure gas line (Williams Brothers
Pipeline) which adds a constraint to the overall site planning. Basically, the gas
company will not permit structures or removal or placement of excess fill material
within the pipeline easement area.
UTILITIES
Upon review of the plans there are no proposals for extension of sewer or water
service into the park at this time. The plans do propose irrigation systems for the
ball fields and a future park shelter. Depending on the bidding climate, an
alternative to extend sewer and water may be included in the bidding package.
Sanitary sewer is currently available from Kiowa Trail near the existing
playground. Water service will be available as a result of the Springfield Addition
rhe City of Chanhassen.A growing community with clean lakes,quality schools,a charming downtown,thriving businesses,and beautiful parks.A great place to live, work,and play
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at the end of Kiowa Trail and West 92" Street in the summer of 1998. Staff is
recommending that sanitary sewer be extended to the future park shelter in an
effort to minimize disruption and additional costs for trail replacement in the —
future. An existing sewer service stub is available from Kiowa Trail. Water
service can easily be extended in the future from West 92" Street with limited
disruption to park improvements. All sewer and water improvements shall be —
installed in accordance with the City's Standards and Specifications or State
plumbing codes.
TRAFFIC CIRCULATION
The main access to the park is proposed from Trunk Highway 101. Additional --
trail connections to Kiowa Trail and Springfield subdivision are proposed from a
pedestrian access standpoint. The access point at Trunk Highway 101, given the
site constraints, is the best possible location with regards to sight lines along Trunk —
Highway 101. A bypass lane will be incorporated along southbound Trunk
Highway 101 to provide a protected left turn into the park. A right turn lane is _
proposed on northbound Trunk Highway 101. Staff has worked with the
consultant engineer to redesign the entrance to the park from Trunk Highway 101.
The current configuration is proposed to be revised to a tee type intersection _
which would permit free turning movement for vehicles entering the park to go
north or south (see Attachment No. 1). The north and south legs of the
intersection would be stopped to permit inbound traffic to flow smoothly and not
cause a backup onto Trunk Highway 101.
Another area staff believes should be revisited is the northerly parking lot. It's —
circular design creates a wye type intersection which impairs visibility for vehicles
leaving the parking lot at the wye. Staff believes this intersection should be
perpendicular which would improve sight lines (see Attachment No. 2). The —
reconfiguration of the parking lot will not affect the number of parking stalls
proposed.
The parking lot drive aisles need to be revised in accordance with City Code.
Drive aisles without parking are proposed at 25 feet wide face to face which meets
City Code; however, the drive aisle through the parking areas are required to be 26 —
feet wide. It appears, based on the dimensions, that there is sufficient room to
increase the drive aisle width to 26 feet and maintain a 19-1/2 foot parking stall
r
which also meets City Code. All drive aisles and parking areas are proposed to
have B612 concrete curb and gutter. Additional traffic islands may be appropriate
in the southerly parking lot to break up the large pavement area. Upon review of —
the proposed pavement section/design, staff is concerned that the pavement section
may be too light to support activities given the soil characteristics in the area. The
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pavement section will be re-evaluated after consulting a soils engineer and
increased accordingly.
_ The park plans propose numerous meandering trails throughout the park. The
trails are proposed at 10 feet wide which is slightly larger than the City's standard
trail section of 8 feet. In an effort to reduce costs, the trails could be reduced to 8
feet in width.
EROSION CONTROL
Staff will be meeting with the consulting engineer to address erosion control
measures on this plan. Given the size of this development, temporary sediment
basins should be incorporated to control runoff during the site grading operations.
The plans will be revised in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice
Handbook.
RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR BANDIMERE PARK
1. Sanitary sewer service should be extended from Kiowa Trail to the proposed
building site.
2. The grading plan should be revised to incorporate temporary sediment basins
to control runoff during the site grading phase. Rock construction entrances
shall be installed and maintained at all construction entrances until the streets
are paved.
3. The northerly parking lot shall be reconfigured per Attachment No. 2.
4. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be restored with
seed and disc-mulched or sod within two weeks of completion of each activity
in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook.
5. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations for 10-year and
100-year storm events and provide ponding calculations for stormwater
quality/quantity ponds in accordance with the City's Surface Water
Management Plan for the City Engineer to review and approve. The applicant
shall provide detailed pre-developed and post-developed stormwater
calculations for 100-year storm events and normal water level and high water
level calculations in existing basins,created basins, and/or creeks. Individual
storm sewer calculations between each catch basin segment will also be
required to determine if sufficient catch basins are being utilized. In addition,
water quality ponding design calculations shall be based on Walker's Pondnet
model.
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March 26, 1998
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6. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate
regulatory agencies, i.e. Carver County, Watershed District, Metropolitan _
Council Environmental Services, Health Department, Minnesota Pollution
Control Agency, Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, Army Corps of
Engineers and Minnesota Department of Transportation and comply with their —
conditions of approval.
7. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles —
found during construction and shall re-locate or abandon the drain tile as
directed by the City Engineer.
8. The parking lot drive aisle shall be revised to meet City Code 20-1118.
Attachments: 1. Park entrance revision.
2. North parking lot revision.
CITY CENTER PARK
GRADING AND DRAINAGE
The plans propose on minor reshaping of the existing ball fields north of City Hall.
More significant grading is proposed north of the school in areas of the park which
have not been previously developed. This will result in removal of existing trees. —
Since storm sewer for the most part is non-existent in the area, it is necessary to
re-grade most of the park area to allow drainage to be picked up by a proposed
storm sewers in the southerly and westerly portions of the site. Staff has also —
pointed out an existing drainage concern over the past years from the existing
neighborhood to the north. Currently a drainage swale runs through the properties
that conveys runoff from the future park area adjacent to Santa Vera Drive. The —
plans are proposed to be revised to re-grade the park area to improve drainage
through the residential properties. The result of this will require tree removal
along Kerber Boulevard in the northwest corner of the site. A storm sewer will be —'
extended up in this area to convey surface water runoff to the existing storm sewer
in Kerber Boulevard. The Kerber Boulevard storm sewer discharges into a _
regional storm water treatment pond south of Market Square. Therefore, no on-
site ponding is required. Drain tile is also proposed to be installed for draining the
ice rinks and part of the ball fields to improve subsurface drainage. The grading —
plan needs to be revised to incorporate erosion control measures. Silt fence shall
be placed on the downstream side of all grading areas and rock construction
entrances need to be employed at all access points. Catch basins and storm sewer
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inlets shall be protected with silt fence until all disturbed areas have been
_ revegetated. Detailed storm sewer calculations and pre- and post-drainage maps
for a 10-year and 100-year storm, 24-hour event need to be submitted for review
and approval.
UTILITIES
— Water service is available from City Hall's north parking lot. Sanitary sewer
service is not directly available to the site without open cutting Kerber Boulevard
or Laredo Drive, although the school has a sanitary sewer in the south parking lot
— that may be extended should sanitary sewer service be desired.
The existing fire hydrant located west of the ice rinks and north of City Hall
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service drive may need to be adjusted as a result of grading and trail construction.
TRAFFIC CIRCULATION
Vehicular access to the park is proposed from Kerber Boulevard through the
existing City Hall parking lot or the school's parking lots off Laredo Drive. The
plans do not propose any significant parking lot improvements. Engineering staff
questions if the existing parking facilities will be sufficient to support the activities.
During peak use,park visitors utilize on-street parking along the east side of
Kerber Boulevard and City Hall and school parking lots. Bituminous trails are
proposed throughout the park with connections to Kerber Boulevard, Laredo
_ Drive and Santa Vera Drive.
RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR CITY CENTER
— PARK
1. The grading plan shall be revised to show erosion control measures in
— accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook, i.e. rock
construction entrance and silt fence.
2. The contractor shall be limited to one access point along Kerber Boulevard for
ingress and egress to the site.
3. The fire hydrant located west of the ice rinks, north of City Hall service drive
may need to be adjusted.
4. A sidewalk or trail should be extended to the existing sidewalk in City Hall's
north parking lot on the west side of the building.
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March 26, 1998
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5. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be restored with
seed and disc-mulched or wood-fiber blanket or sod within two weeks of
completion of each activity in accordance with the City's Best Management
Practice Handbook.
6. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations for 10-year and
100-year storm events and provide ponding calculations for stormwater
quality/quantity ponds in accordance with the City's Surface Water
Management Plan for the City Engineer to review and approve. The applicant
shall provide detailed pre-developed and post-developed stormwater
calculations for 100-year storm events and normal water level and high water
level calculations in existing basins,created basins, and/or creeks. Individual _
storm sewer calculations between each catch basin segment will also be
required to determine if sufficient catch basins are being utilized. In addition,
water quality ponding design calculations shall be based on Walker's Pondnet —
model.
7. The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate —
regulatory agencies, i.e. Carver County,Watershed District, Metropolitan
Council Environmental Services, Health Department, Minnesota Pollution
Control Agency, Minnesota Department of Natural Resources, Army Corps of —
Engineers and Minnesota Department of Transportation and comply with their
conditions of approval.
8. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles
found during construction and shall re-locate or abandon the drain tile as _
directed by the City Engineer.
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 18, 1998
Vice Chairman Joyce called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Allyson Brooks,Alison Blackowiak, LuAnn Sidney, Matt Burton, and
Kevin Joyce. Ladd Conrad arrived after item 1.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Craig Peterson
STAFF PRESENT: Kate Aanenson, Planning Director; Bob Generous, Senior Planner;
Sharmin Al-Jaff, Planner II; and Anita Benson, City Engineer
PUBLIC HEARING:
EDEN TRACE CORP. REQUEST TO REPLAT A 4.84 ACRE PARCEL, OUTLOT D,
CHANHASSEN BUSINESS CENTER INTO TWO LOTS AND A SITE PLAN REVIEW
FOR A 16,174 SQ. FT. AND A 23,070 SQ. FT. OFFICE/WAREHOUSE BUILDING WITH
OUTDOOR STORAGE.
Sharmin Al-Jaff presented the staff report on this item.
Joyce: Any questions for staff at this time?
Sidney: Sharmin, I was wondering if you received any lighting or signage information since you
prepared the report?
Al-Jaff: We did define the criteria and the ordinance truly regulates what the signage should
look like. There is enough control over that.
Joyce: All right, with that said, is the applicant here and like to address the Planning
Commission at this time?
Mark Undestad: My name is Mark Undestad with Eden Trace. I really don't have much more to
add to this.
Joyce: What you see is what you get.
Mark Undestad: We spent a lot of time on it and trying to get the design and things to work out
and I think we've done that so.
Joyce: Are there any questions for the applicant?
Sidney: I guess just one general one. I was kind of curious why you chose to build two buildings
rather than extend the larger ones?
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Mark Undestad: A couple of different reasons. One, it's kind of an odd shaped lot and to really
have visibility from Audubon, from Lake Drive West and then to the east too so in order to try to
get the screening out in there,we thought eventually we're going to again hopefully expand into
that outdoor storage area so for now to build the two buildings, get all the loading docks and —
everything screened in between the two buildings so you really don't have any loading front...
Joyce: What are you storing outside? —
Mark Undestad: We're working with two different clients right now. One would be a...
Joyce: You don't feel that they're going to go, it's a 13 foot high fence.
Mark Undestad: Yeah, yeah. And no, the cabling, they can't stack them and they're only about 4
to 5 foot tall reels and they can't stack those. The slabs of granite are 6 to 8 feet and that's as tall
as they would get so. We brought the screen walls up to about 13 feet to provide... —
Joyce: Why aren't you enclosing it now while you're constructing out there?
Mark Understand: The cost.
Joyce: Just the financial consideration? And you think there's a possibility you will enclose it at
some time?
Mark Undestad: Yeah, we hope to expand that, the front building in order to protect the rest of —
the space on there.
Joyce: Oh, then that outdoor storage will turn into another portion of the building then? Okay.
The only other question I had was on the landscaping plan. It was put together by this nature
group and looking at the plant key, you might not even know. ...and then nothing on the
quantity section you have. —
Mark Undestad: Well actually they're redrawing a new plan based on the information in the staff
report they received now so they're going to add some trees off on the west side over there. —
They're in the process of redrawing a plan right now that we'll get to staff probably some time
next week.
Joyce: Okay. But do you think that this plan is the one that they're going to be using here?
Mark Undestad: We'll be adding to that plan.
Joyce: Adding to that plan. Okay, great. That's all the questions I had. —
Mark Undestad: Thank you.
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Joyce: This is a public hearing so can I get a motion to open it?
Blackowiak moved, Sidney seconded to open the public hearing. The public hearing was
opened.
Joyce: Would anyone like to address the Planning Commission with this topic? Seeing none, I'd
like to close the public hearing.
Blackowiak moved, Sidney seconded to close the public hearing. The public hearing was
closed.
Joyce: Comments. Matt.
Burton: It seems like a well conceived development and I really don't have any problems.
Sidney: Looks really good to me. I'd like to compliment you on the plan. The applicant has
done a wonderful job. So has staff on the plan.
Blackowiak: I think it's a good plan and I don't have any problem with it.
Brooks: I have no comment.
_ Joyce: I think it's a well laid out plan. Congratulations. Good luck to you. With that said, I
need a couple of motions here.
_ Blackowiak: Okay, I'll move that the Planning Commission recommends approval of Site Plan
98-3 for Eden Trace Corporation as shown on the plans dated received February 13, 1998 and
subject to the following conditions, 1 through 17.
Burton: Second.
Blackowiak moved, Burton seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval
of Site Plan #98-3 for Eden Trace Corp. as shown on the plans dated received February 13,
1998, and subject to the following conditions:
1. All driveway access points onto Lake Drive West shall incorporate the City's industrial
driveway apron (Detail Plate No. 5207). The developer shall be responsible for relocating
any conflicting street lights along Lake Drive West.
2. Rock construction entrances shall be maintained by the applicant until all parking lots are
paved with a bituminous surface. In addition, all catch basin inlets shall be protected with
silt fence, rock filter dikes, or hay bales as well.
3. The bituminous trail along Audubon Road shall be restored in kind within seven days after
utility extension commences.
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4. All drive aisles shall be revised to meet the City Code requirements (21-1101 and 20-1118).
Driveway radiuses onto Lake Drive West shall be increased to 20 foot radii.
5. The storm sewer system proposed for the easterly driveway shall be extended to the lot line
for future extension and use by Lot 1.
6. Sanitary sewer and water hookup charges shall be applied to the building permit. Charges
shall be based upon the number of SAC units determined by the Metropolitan Council
Environmental Services. The applicant shall provide the City with a financial guarantee in
the amount of$2,500 to guarantee boulevard restoration as a result of the two driveway
access points. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location or any drain tiles
found during construction and shall relocate or abandon the drain tiles as directed by the
City Engineer.
7. The contractor and/or developer shall contact the City's Engineering Department for
inspection of the driveway apron and curb/street restoration prior to pouring the concrete.
A 24 hour notice is required to schedule an inspection.
8. All utility improvements shall be constructed in accordance with the latest editions of the
City's Standard Specifications and Detail Plates and/or State Plumbing Codes. Detailed
utility plans and specifications shall be submitted in conjunction with the final plat _
approval for staff review and approval. The private utilities will be inspected by the City's
Building Department. The developer and/or builder shall be responsible for obtaining the
necessary permits from the City.
9. Applicant shall revise landscaping plan to include 24 understory trees and 24 shrubs, as
required by buffer yard ordinance, near the western edge of the parking lot along Audubon —
Road.
10. Site plan review approval of this application is contingent upon final plat approval and
recording of Chanhassen Business Center 4th Addition by the City.
11. Fire Marshal conditions:
a. Please relocate the fire hydrant which sits in front of the parking stall just outside of the
fenced in area on the northwest side of the property. Please relocate fire hydrant to the
curb off the northwest corner of the fenced in area. MN Uniform Fire Code 1991
Section 10.403.
b. Please relocate the fire hydrant which sits in front of parking staff on the southeast
corner of Building B. Please relocate hydrant over to the northeast in order to provide
access for the fire department. MN Uniform Code 1991 Section 10.403.
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c. Please provide a fire lane. Call fire marshal for exact location. Chanhassen Fire
Department/Fire Prevention Policy#6-1991.
d. The post indicator valves will need to be provided with tamper protection. Chanhassen
Fire Department/Fire Prevention Policy#40-1995.
e. Fire department must witness flushing of underground mains which come in the
building for fire suppression systems. Chanhassen Fire Department/Fire Prevention
Policy#40-1995.
f. Please refer to the enclosed fire prevention policies for all requirements from the city of
Chanhassen in regards to this project.
g. Chanhassen Fire Department policy on fire alarm systems; Policy#1-1990.
h. Chanhassen Fire Department Policy on exterior light and horn over Fire Department
Sprinkler Connection; Policy#2-1990.
i. Chanhassen Fire Department Policy regarding site plans; Policy#4-1991.
j. Chanhassen Fire Department Policy requirements for fire lane signage; Policy#6-1991.
k. Chanhassen Fire Department Policy regarding pre-plans; Policy#7-1991.
1. Chanhassen Fire Department Policy regarding premise identification; Policy#29-1992.
m. Water Service Installation Policy for Commercial and Industrial Buildings; Policy#34-
1993 Chanhassen Fire Department Policy Maximum Allowed Size of Domestic Water
Service on a Combination Domestic Fire Sprinkler Supply Line; Policy#36-1994.
n. Chanhassen Fire Department of Fire Sprinkler Systems; Policy#40-1995.
o. Chanhassen Fire Department Policy on Labeling of Fire Rated Walls; Policy #44-1997.
12. Please contact Fire Marshal for exact size and location for installation of a lock box on the
side of the building for fire department access. MN Uniform Fire Code 1991 Section
10.302.
13. The applicant shall enter into a site development contract with the city and provide the
necessary financial security to guarantee compliance with the terms of approval.
14. All roof mounted equipment shall be screened by walls of compatible appearing material.
Wood screen fences are prohibited. All exterior process machinery, tanks etc. are to be
fully screened by compatible materials. As an alternative, the applicant can use factory
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applied panels on the exterior to the equipment that would blend in with the building
materials. -.
15. All freestanding signs shall be limited to monument signs. The sign shall not exceed eighty
(80) square feet in sign display area nor be greater than eight (8) feet in height. The sign
treatment is an element of the architecture and thus should reflect with the quality of the
development. A common theme will be introduced at the development's entrance
monument and will be used throughout. Each property shall be allowed one monument —
sign located near the driveway into the private site. The monument sign must maintain a
ten foot setback from the property line. The signs should be consistent in color, size, and
material throughout the development. The applicant should submit a sign package for staff —
review. A separate permit is required for all signage on site.
16. Lighting for the interior of the business center should be consistent throughout the —
development. A decorative, show box fixture (high pressure sodium vapor lamps) with a
square ornamental pole shall be used throughout the development area for area lighting.
All light fixtures shall be shielded. Light level for site lighting shall be no more than 1/2
foot candle at the property line. This does not apply to street lighting. Lighting equipment
similar to what is mounted in the public street right-of-ways shall be used in the private _
areas. Wall pack units may be used provided no direct glare is directed off-site and no
more than 1/2 foot candle of light is at the property line.
17. Park fees shall be paid in accordance with city ordinance requirements.
All voted in favor and the motion carried. _
Blackowiak: Okay, I'll recommend the Planning Commission recommend approval of the
preliminary plat for Subdivision 98-3 to replat Outlot D into two lots, Chanhassen Business
Center 4th Addition as shown on the plans dated received February 13, 1998, subject to
conditions 1 through 13 I believe. _
Joyce: 13 conditions on this subdivision?
Al-Jaff: Correct.
Joyce: Second? —
Brooks: Second.
Blackowiak moved, Brooks seconded that the Planning Commission recommend approval
of the preliminary plat for Subdivision 98-3 to replat Outlot D into 2 lots, Chanhassen
Business Center Fourth Addition, as shown on the plans dated received February 13, 1998,
subject to the following conditions:
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1. Final plat shall be named Chanhassen Business Center 4th Addition.
2. The developer shall dedicate to the City a 20-foot wide trail easement over the existing
trail adjacent to the Audubon Road and a 20-foot drainage and utility easement over the
— proposed storm sewer extension to Lot 1.
3. The developer shall enter into an amendment to the development contract for Chanhassen
— Business Center and provide the City with the necessary security and pay the associated
final plat fees.
— 4. The developer shall be responsible for extending sewer and water service to the
development. Sanitary sewer service shall be extended from Audubon Road for Lot 2
and Lake Drive West for Lot 1. Open cutting of Lake Drive West shall be prohibited.
— The developer will also be responsible for extending storm sewer service to Lot 1 from
Lake Drive West. All utility improvements shall be in accordance with the City's latest
edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates and/or State Plumbing Codes.
5. The developer shall prepare a grading, drainage, and erosion control plan for both lots for
review and approval by the City.
—
6. The applicant shall provide detailed storm sewer calculations and drainage maps for a 10-
and 100-year storm event, 24-hour duration for the City Engineer to review and approve
_
prior to final plat approval.
7. The developer shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory
—
agencies, i.e. Watershed District, and comply with their conditions of approval.
— 8. No berming or landscaping will be allowed within the right-of-way.
9. The applicant shall report to the City Engineer the location of any drain tiles found during
— construction and relocate or abandoned the drain tiles as directed by the City Engineer.
10. If importing or exporting of earthwork material is necessary, a haul route and traffic
— control plan shall be submitted to the City Engineer for review and approval prior to
construction commencing.
— 11. All areas disturbed as a result of construction activities shall be immediately restored with
seed and disc-mulched or wood fiber blanket and sod within two weeks of completion of
each activity in accordance with the City's Best Management Practice Handbook. All
— city boulevards disturbed as a result of construction shall be re-sodded.
12. The proposed Industrial development of 1.8 net developable acres is responsible for a water
quantity fee of$7,848. This fee is due payable to the City prior to the City filing the final
plat.
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13. DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS _
The development standards will remain the same as previously approved with the PUD.
a. Intent
The purpose of this zone is to create a PUD light industrial/office park. The use of the PUD zone
is to allow for more flexible design standards while creating a higher quality and more sensitive
proposal. All utilities are required to be placed underground. Each lot proposed for development
shall proceed through site plan review based on the development standards outlined below. —
b. Permitted Uses
The permitted uses in this zone should be limited to light industrial, warehousing, and office as
defined below. The uses shall be limited to those as defined herein. If there is a question as to the
whether or not a use meets the definition, the City Council shall make that interpretation. —
1. Light Industrial. The manufacturing, compounding, processing, assembling, packaging, or
testing of goods or equipment or research activities entirely within an enclosed structure,
with no outside storage. There shall be negligible impact upon the surrounding
environment by noise, vibration, smoke,dust or pollutants. —
2. Warehousing. Means the commercial storage of merchandise and personal property.
3. Office. Professional and business office,non-retail activity.
c. Setbacks —
In the PUD standards, there is the requirement for landscape buffering in addition to building and
parking setbacks. The landscape buffer on Audubon Road is 50 feet, south of Lake Drive and —
100 feet along the southern property line. The PUD zone requires a building to be setback 50
feet from the required landscape buffer and public right-of-ways. There is no minimum
requirement for setbacks on interior lot lines. —
The following setbacks shall apply:
Building Parking —
Audubon Road Buffer& Setback 50'plus 50' 50'plus 10'
South Property Line & Setback 100" plus 50' 100'plus 10' —
Front& Rear ROW on Lake Drive 25' 15'
Interior Side Lot Line 10' 10'
Railroad Right of Way 30' 30'
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Audubon Road south of Lake Drive 100' 100'
d. Development Standards Tabulation Box
Chanhassen Business Center Fourth Addition (Outlot D)
Chanhassen Business Center Fourth Addition (Outlot D)
Lot# Lot Size- Acres Building Sq. Ft. Building Impervious
Coverage
1 4.5 57,000 29% 60%
2 4.0 44,000 25% 60%
Subtotal 8.5 101,000 avg. 27% avg. 60%
_ The PUD standard for hard surface coverage is 70% for office and industrial uses. The proposed
development meets this standard with an average of 56% hard surface coverage.
Building Square Footage Breakdown
Office 20% 120,700 sq. ft.
Manufacturing 25% 150,875 sq. ft.
Warehouse 54.09% 326,425 sq. ft.
Church 0.91% 5,500 sq. ft.
Total 100% 603,500 sq. ft.
e. Building Materials and Design
1. The PUD requires that the development demonstrate a higher quality of architectural
standards and site design. All mechanical equipment shall be screened with material
compatible to the building.
2. All materials shall be of high quality and durable. Masonry material shall be used. Color
shall be introduced through colored block or panels and not painted block.
3. Brick may be used and must be approved to assure uniformity.
4. Block shall have a weathered face or be polished, fluted,or broken face.
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5. Concrete may be poured in place, tilt-up or pre-cast, and shall be finished in stone, textured
or coated. —
6. Metal siding will not be approved except as support material to one of the above materials
or curtain wall on office components or,as trim or as HVAC screen. —
7. All accessory structures shall be designed to be compatible with the primary structure.
8. All roof mounted equipment shall be screened by walls of compatible appearing material.
Wood screen fences are prohibited. All exterior process machinery, tanks, etc., are to be
fully screened by compatible materials. —
9. The use of large unadorned,prestressed concrete panels and concrete block shall be
prohibited. Acceptable materials will incorporate textured surfaces, exposed aggregate —
and/or other patterning. All walls shall be given added architectural interest through
building design or appropriate landscaping. —
10. Space for recycling shall be provided in the interior of all principal structures for all
developments in the Business Center. —
f. Site Landscaping and Screening
1. All buffer landscaping, including boulevard landscaping, included in Phase I area to be
installed when the grading of the phase is completed. This may well result in landscaping
being required ahead of individual site plan approvals but we believe the buffer yard and —
plantings, in particular, need to be established immediately. In addition, to adhere to the
higher quality of development as spelled out in the PUD zone, all loading areas shall be
screened. Each lot for development shall submit a separate landscaping plan as a part of —
the site plan review process.
2. All open spaces and non-parking lot surfaces shall be landscaped, rockscaped, or covered —
with plantings and/or lawn material.
3. Storage of material outdoors is prohibited unless it has been approved under site plan —
review. All approved outdoor storage must be screened with masonry fences and/or
landscaping.
3. The master landscape plan for the CBC PUD shall be the design guide for all of the
specific site landscape developments. Each lot must present a landscape plan for
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approval with the site plan review process.
4. Undulating or angular berms 3' to 4' in height, south of Lake Drive along Audubon Road —
shall be sodded or seeded at the conclusion of Phase I grading and utility construction. The
required buffer landscaping may be installed incrementally, but it shall be required where it
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is deemed necessary to screen any proposed development. All required boulevard
landscaping shall be sodded.
5. Loading areas shall be screened from public right-of-ways. Wing wall may be required
where deemed appropriate.
g. Signage
1. All freestanding signs be limited to monument signs. The sign shall not exceed eighty
(80) square feet in sign display area nor be greater than eight (8) feet in height. The sign
treatment is an element of the architecture and thus should reflect with the quality of the
development. The signs should be consistent in color, size, and material throughout the
development. The applicant should submit a sign package for staff review.
2. Each property shall be allowed one monument sign located near the driveway into the
private site. All signs require a separate permit.
3. The signage will have consistency throughout the development. A common theme will be
introduced at the development's entrance monument and will be used throughout.
4. Consistency in signage shall relate to color, size,materials, and heights.
h. Lighting
1. Lighting for the interior of the business center should be consistent throughout the
_ development. The applicant's proposal is consistent with the lighting standards for the PUD
ordinance. The plans do not provide for street lighting. As with previous industrial
parks/roadways, the City has required the developer to install street lights throughout the
street system. The street lights should be designed consistent with the existing lighting
along Audubon Road.
2. A decorative, shoe box fixture (high pressure sodium vapor lamps) with a square
ornamental pole shall be used throughout the development area for area lighting.
3 Lighting equipment similar to what is mounted in the public street right-of-ways shall be
used in the private areas.
4. All light fixtures shall be shielded. Light level for site lighting shall be no more than 1/2
candle at the property line. This does not apply to street lighting."
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING:
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CENTEX HOMES REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT TO REPLATE 4 LOTS
INTO 5 LOTS AND VACATION OF EXISTING DRAINAGE AND UTILITY —
EASEMENTS ON PROPERTY ZONED RSF AND LOCATED SOUTH OF LAKE LUCY
ROAD BETWEEN GALPIN BLVD. AND BRIARWOOD COURT,WOODRIDGE
HEIGHTS 3RD ADDITION. —
Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item.
Joyce: Are there any questions for the staff at this time?
Sidney: I guess Bob I was wondering if you could explain, I didn't quite understand when you -"
talked about a reduction of 10 feet in width to the landscape area. What that concern was.
—
Generous: A reduction of 10 feet what?
Joyce: On Lake Lucy Road. —
Sidney: Yeah in the width of the landscape area. That's on page 3 at the bottom.
Generous: Oh they were, our city forester was concerned that they be able to provide all the
landscaping that they showed within the original subdivision within that area.
Aanenson: Streetscape.
Generous: Yes, we believe that that can go in there. They made the first lot a little bit wider. —
Joyce: At this time would the applicant like to address the Planning Commission, please step
forward and give us your name and address please. —
Ryan Gideon: Ryan Gideon with Centex Homes, 12400 Whitewater Drive, Suite 120,
Minnetonka, Minnesota. I'm available for any questions you might have. I would address your —
concern or the issue of the lot against Lake Lucy Road. We would be likely restricting to one of
our narrower houses. The landscaping falls well within the 30 foot setback for a corner lot so
there shouldn't be any issues there. —
Joyce: Any questions for the applicant at this time? Okay, I'd like to open this up for a public
hearing please. May I have a motion?
Blackowiak moved, Sidney seconded to open the public hearing. The public hearing was
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opened.
Joyce: Thank you. Would anybody like to address the Planning Commission on this topic? —
Please step forward. Seeing none, I'd like to close the public hearing.
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Blackowiak moved, Sidney seconded to close the public hearing. The public hearing was
closed.
Joyce: Thank you. Comments. LuArm?
— Sidney: Seems fine to me. No problem.
Blackowiak: No problems. Relatively straight forward.
Brooks: I just have one quick question. The wetland is going to be protected somehow?
— Generous: Yeah, it's on the southern end of this property. One that shows up on the plat where
Lake Lucy...the mitigation is taking place in the large wetland complex in the western part.
— Brooks: So there is wetland mitigation?
Generous: Yes. It was done as part of the original plat.
Brooks: Well with that I, it looks fine. I have no comments.
—
Joyce: Great. Can I get a motion please?
Brooks: I move the Planning Commission recommends approval of preliminary plat for
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Woodridge Heights 3rd Addition and the vacation of the existing drainage and utility easements
encompassing Lots 13-16, Block 3, Woodridge Heights Addition, subject to the following
conditions 1 through 10.
Joyce: Okay. Can I have a second on that please?
Sidney: Second.
_ Joyce: Any discussion?
Brooks moved, Sidney seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of
— preliminary plat for Woodridge Heights 3rd Addition and the vacation of the existing
drainage and utility easements encompassing Lots 13-16, Block 3,Woodridge Heights
Addition, subject to the following conditions:
1. The well and septic system abandonment for Lots 3 and 4 shall be coordinated with the
City's Building Inspection Division.
2. Typical water and sewer hook-up fees will be applicable and collected at time of building
permit issuance.
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3. A revised as-built grading and utility plan and tie cards that reflect correct lot numbers and
plat name shall be supplied to the City upon completion of the utility extension to Lot 3. —
4. The applicant shall be required to enter into an addendum to the development contract with
the City for Woodridge Heights 3`d Addition. The applicant shall also be responsible for —
standard plat recording fees in accordance with City ordinance.
5. All disturbed areas as a result of grading shall be topsoiled, seeded and mulched within two —
weeks after grading is completed.
6. The developer will be responsible for the extension of a one-inch water service and six-inch —
sanitary sewer service from Briarwood Court to the lot. Utility installation shall be in
accordance with the City of Chanhassen 1998 Standard Specifications and Detail Plates.
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This work is to be inspected by the City's Engineering Department. Utility extension to Lot
3 shall occur prior to the final lift of asphalt pavement being installed in Briarwood Court.
All street restoration shall be completed with 7 days after construction commences on the
utility service. One lane of traffic shall be maintained at all times. The contractor shall be
responsible for providing traffic control.
—
7. No direct lot access shall be permitted on to Galpin Boulevard or Lake Lucy Road.
8. The drain tile located at the rear of existing Lot 16 shall be relocated to accommodate the _
new lots.
9. The addition lot will be required to have one deciduous tree planted in the front yard _
setback area corresponding with the landscape plan for the other homes on Briarwood
Court.
10. The proposed plat shall pay an additional park and trail fee for the additional one lot. Parks
and trail fees for the 3rd Addition shall be paid at the rate in effect at the time of building
permit application. —
All voted in favor and the motion carried.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN- INFRASTRUCTURE.
Joyce: What we're going to do is have staff give us their presentation on the comprehensive plan
and this is not a public hearing. However, if people in the audience would like to step up and
make any kind of comment after their presentation, and after our discussion, I'll open it up for
that. Okay?
—
Aanenson: Thank you. Let me just follow through with your thoughts Kevin and explain where
we've been and where we're going with this process. Again this is a continuation of the
comprehensive plan update. The first time you saw this, it was more in an issue paper format. —
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We showed you the existing comp plan and some of the strengths and weaknesses and where we
were going with it. You have reviewed the land use and the housing elements so tonight you're
looking at the natural resource,parks and open space, transportation, sewer and water and the
capital improvements plan. As a part of that you're still missing two portions of the
transportation and the sewer and water. Under the transportation we're having a consultant
working with Carver County, SRF and Associates is doing the county wide study which we are
participating in. So the numbers we have on the streets, traffic volumes and some of the
modeling is not completed, and it is...component so what we're giving you is a large portion of it
but some of the data that they'll be giving certainly will make some changes. So we have to keep
that in mind. The other is in the sewer and water. Bonestroo gave the city an updated 1993-94 of
the sewer and water plan. In that there was some oversizing done based on some population
estimates that were given at the time and we've downsized it since then. So they're redoing the
modeling. There's going to be some minor changes but we just wanted to keep that in mind.
Again this is still in draft form and we'll be bringing those updates back to you obviously as a
part of the process. Also,just to keep everybody informed of where we're going with this. On
April 22nd we do have a town meeting scheduled and what we're planning on that is having an
open house. Most of the department heads will be there and a lot of staff and we'll have different
areas set up where people if they're interested in parks and rec or whether it be housing, natural
resources. What we're doing with wetland protection. Parks. There will be different areas and
we want to get comments on that. We think that sometimes that's an easier way for people to get
their information. Write down comments. Speak to somebody and get their questions answered
so that's our town meeting that we scheduled for April 22"d. And then in May, depending on
_ how much questions. How many questions. How much information, we'll be holding our public
hearings in May. It will probably be towards the end of May, unless the meeting on April 22"d,
we've got everything back from SRF and everything seems to be in place and the Bonestroo
— study and the questions or the concerns aren't so significant and we have to go back and re-
examine some issues. So May is when we're planning the public hearing. So that's again an
opportunity for the public to come in and comment before this board. Then assuming that things
stay on schedule, we're planning on June City Council review and then hopefully by July and
August we'll have this into the Met Council who ultimately has to approve the adoption of the
plan. So tonight's goal is to educate you on the four elements I mentioned, the natural resources,
parks and open space, transportation, sewer and water and capital improvements. Again to
explain to you information that we've gathered and the changes that we've made to make sure
that you're comfortable with the information, or if you want to direct staff to get you additional
information before we present this at the Council or the town meeting in April. So I'd like to
begin with the natural resources if you want to turn to that section. We'll start with that one
first. The City has got a lot of unique natural resources which I think attracts a lot of people to
this area. The lakes, the creeks, the river corridors and the tree cover. The City has nine major
lakes which makes very nice natural resources. And in 1994 the City adopted a Surface Water
Management Plan in order to be concerned about the quality of those lakes and the asset that they
provide. That storm water management plan not only included water for the lakes but also the
wetlands which helps protect the lakes. So with that storm water management plan evolved a
way to handle storm water protection. It's serving all the existing wetlands that we have in the
community. Which ones we allowed to be, they ranked them. Which ones we allowed to be
impacted and which ones we wouldn't, and also established a way for collecting fees for quantity
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and quality so we could provide a management system for handling storm water. We've also
developed lake management plans for all the major lakes within the city and those are the ways —
that we can help ensure the quality of lakes by working with the Lake Associations and updating
that information annually. One of the problems that we see emerging with the lakes is water
quality and things like Eurasian Milfoil and possibly the infiltration of other invaders so this is an —
ongoing issue and Phil's done a really good job, Phil Elkin our Water Resource Coordinator,
working with the lake associations. Doing education. The other concern we see as the
population increases is increased use by the public of the lakes and again increasing their
education and knowledge of ways that we can handle impacting the lakes. An issue that's come
up recently is jet skis. Legislature is discussing that too. We've had some problems with that.
—
Last year when we had high water on some of the lakes, the jet skis and erosion of the shoreland.
That's an ongoing issue that again is handled under lake management so these are all the things
as the population increases and we get more activity on the lakes, that we need to be managing.
—
And again I think we're moving in that direction. Wetlands. In 1992 the State passed the
Wetland Conservation Act but the City of Chanhassen's been regulating wetlands since 1980 and
again we think we continue to lead the wetland section. As I said earlier, the storm water
management plan has inventoried all the wetlands in the City and we've been following with that
program to ensure their quality. The seminary fen which is located north of 212 has been
classified as a pristine wetland and in 1995 it was identified by the Minnesota Biological Surveys _
as one of the most important sites in Hennepin, Carver and Scott Counties so certainly that's an
area, the 90 acres there that we need to preserve and we think that's a very unique area. So
we've got goals for protecting flood protection, water quality, wetland protection and we recently _
embarked on a creek and river corridor protection. We're again in a unique situation to have a
creek running the entire length of this city. Actually we have Bluff Creek and Riley which runs
through a significant portion of the city. So the part of, another evolution of the Storm Water _
Management Plan was the completion of this Bluff Creek Corridor, Natural Resources Plan. The
City Council has given approval of the first reading. They're exploring some opportunities.
Different ways to acquire some of the land besides just the overlay district that we're proposing. —
We hope that soon they will be adopting the second reading of that and we'll have that ordinance
in place. Again we think that's very unique to what a lot of other communities are doing as far as
protecting and natural resource corridor. One of the issues that we need to be looking at in the —
future is ground water protection because Chanhassen's entire water supply is generated from
deep wells, we need to make sure that we take measures to protect this resource so we are setting
up a system of making sure that we're testing wells regularly and setting a system in place to —
making sure that on site septic systems, which we do have a significant number of because of our
large lot subdivisions, ensuring those are being monitored and Bob will talk about that a little bit
in the sewer section... monitoring those so we ensure the ground water protection. And another —
element of natural resources not related to water is tree cover and again tree cover is an important
element and I think one of the things we've done by hiring a forester and the work that Jill's done
—
is taking in a number of steps in preservation and restoration. Whether it's streepscape or helping
educate people to plant in the right way to ensure that trees do succeed in surviving and then just
working with developers. Try to get again, move away from the format to other developments to
try to save significant trees. So we want to again try to work to make sure that we've got a
diversity of trees in the city and we're ultimately working towards a forestry management plan to
make sure that we have continued maintenance and management ongoing so that we do have a
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healthy tree cover. And the last issue is the wildlife. Again, with the Bluff Creek Management
Plan. The movement of the diversity, especially on the other end of the city, the diversity of the
wildlife species is important. Then just a little blurb on the agricultural preservation. Again, we
just put that in there. It relates back to the land use too. Although agricultural preservation has
not been adopted, the City certainly attempts to maintain and preserve the character of the natural
environment. So we did put some goals in there. I'm not going to go through those specifically.
All of the goals. If you had questions on that, I'd be happy to answer any of those but that's, it's
written a lot different than what we had in our previous plan and we think this is an area that the
city has been a leader in and continues to do.
Joyce: Any questions...
Brooks: I just want to say that I'm glad that the issue of agricultural character preservation was
addressed. I'm happy to see that in there. I think it's very important to address it. To the vision
we want for Chanhassen and how we want Chanhassen to look in the future.
Conrad: ...absolutely excellent.
Aanenson: Exciting because you can see it. What we've done over the years. It dates going.
back to 1980. The other people that have had the vision.
Joyce: Are we going to have a program for planting trees and...
Aanenson: Right. Every year we do that and it's tied in with Arbor Day and some of the funds
that we get through DNR, matching funds. And then ultimately what we're recommending...
_ back with a long term forestry plan with the percentage of cover. A percent coverage for the city
and working in those areas to put streetscape on the street. In the past sometimes we've put it
further back. Well a lot of that's education too. Educating people and then we put trees in and
sometimes you need to take,people need to take ownership of that tree and water it and care for
it. Make sure it's not abused. Those sort of things so we're working on that and that's a program
where we picked out a couple streets.
Joyce:...
Aanenson: Yeah,well the other thing that Jill tried last year is we did the tree coupons and...
picking out a couple of streets and working that way and that worked good to get people to go in
as a neighborhood and she's been meeting with a couple that have the trails going through.
Trying to come back with some plans. One of the things that came up with the Council is where
we have easements for ponds because that's one of the issues that we need to be addressing too is
we put these storm water management,these storm ponds in to manage the water before they go
into the wetland. Over time we need to come up with a plan, how we're going to clean up the
ponds. We do have easements to those because we have anticipated that. While the
development's under construction,the developer is obligated to keep it clean until they're out.
And then it becomes the City's responsibility but over time we need to develop a plan of how
we're going to go in and...but the problem we have is in some circumstances...planted trees on
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our easements to get in. So again it's an education thing. We certainly want to encourage people
to plant but we need to make sure they're in the right spots. Those are some of the things that
we'll be working on. Educating.
Joyce: Where's the farmers market going?
Aanenson: ...trying to work with the Chamber on that, yeah.
Blackowiak: ...that's all right, I'll jump right in here. I'm not.shy. Seminary fen. A couple
questions I guess. First, you mentioned the DNR. At one point in time I had heard that the DNR
was looking to potentially do an office site or something at the old seminary, which is no longer.
Have they expressed any interest or stated anything about trying to locate some type of field
office at that spot?
Aanenson: They had, and it was predicated on getting funding from the legislature, which they
weren't. It is privately held. The property owner has requested numerous times to be serviced by
Chaska. The City has a plan, the comprehensive plan for sewer and water and that has been
approved that shows how we can get down there and service it. We're saying that we would not
let Chaska service it as long as we can and just because we won't be down there today doesn't _
mean that we have to give up our rights to service the property. We think it's a very unique, it's
the most unique, as we indicated, in the three county area. It doesn't make sense to try to do
something with it right away. Number one,preservation.
Blackowiak: I agree totally. I mean you're saying that there are, there should be protection and
preservation policies to take care of this resource. What policies? _
Aanenson: It's handled in the wetland.
Blackowiak: Yeah, and that would be in the wetland because it's defined as a pristine wetland
which allows significant more setbacks and land use around it. What we've given it, the land use
there is a corporate office. We see someone that would be a corporate steward. There is some
upland area. The property owner that... it might be interesting to just put a sentence or two in
here stating that it would fall under the jurisdiction of wetland management or something to that
effect because it says you know we should preserve it but it doesn't say by what means we plan
to do that. That might be a little bit, might clarify that a little bit more. Thank you.
Aanenson: ...move to open space. Okay. Map up that shows, this was done during the
referendum of parks and trails. It's somewhat dated. We've acquired some other pieces since
then but certainly parks and open space planning is a significant portion of the City's land use
and recreation's as important to the residents that live in the community. There's a couple ways
that we can get property through acquisition and regulating acquisition be it land easements,
condemnation or donation or purchase. Like for example trails that we get easements for it to put
trails on. The second way is getting it through zoning regulations and subdivision. When a
developer comes in for a subdivision, there's an opportunity for an extraction based on either a
cash donation or land and the park commission...that exercise to decide whether or not they
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wanted land or if they wanted to take a cash donation to put improvements in that park... In this
document we have to also comply with regulations that are laid out by the Met Council but they
give some criteria of how much acreage you should have based on your population and service
area which is on page 2. Which we certainly meet or exceed. We have the opportunity to have
the Minnesota Landscape Arboretum in our city, which is 935 acres. We also have a regional
park which is over the Lake Minnewashta Regional with 350 acres. We also have the National
Wildlife Refuge which comprises 14,000 acres on the southern end of the city so we really do
have a significant open space. While they have different, a little bit different missions or
purposes, their open space is that... Then we break it down more into the private facilities which
we have Camp Tanadoona, which is a beautiful facility on 63 acres and then Bluff Creek golf
course which is 228 acres. The City has numerous community and neighborhood parks and those
are pointed out in the table that we put in place in the facilities that go with it. Most of the
development and future for parks will probably be neighborhood parks. If you look what we've
guided... development will be occurring south of Lyman where we've got that residential. There
may be opportunities based on the 212 separation of neighborhoods you've got there, which will
be on the east side but on the west side south of Lyman, that area's a little bit
topographically...may be an area there for a neighborhood park that the Park Commission would
be examining. But with the Bluff Creek corridor and the opportunity for acquisition along there,
there certainly will be more passive opportunities. Back to the park and trail map that was put
_ together for the referendum. You can see a series of trail connections and the location of the
existing parks. What's again not shown on there is the linear acquisition that we'll be acquiring
along Bluff Creek which you're aware of and certainly adds significant acreage. The park
_ commission has been moving away from always acquiring active areas and seeing the importance
of preserving natural space. Open space. So some of the parks that we have or some of the
dedication that we've done in the past, sometimes includes just trees. Conservation areas which
we've even done conservation easements on the plats which provides an opportunity to preserve
significant natural features. Or just even open space with park dedication so in the past I think
there's been a big demand for ballfields, scheduling opportunities. I think the Park and
Recreation Commission certainly has seen the wisdom in just trying to provide...and what that
does and that's certainly a lot of the reason behind the Bluff Creek ordinance. The overlay
provides the clustering of preserving that. So with the park referendum there was an opportunity,
acquisition and the trails. They're going forward with the trails, Council has I believe awarded
the bid for that. Or putting the bid together. Plans and specs. The bids haven't been awarded yet
so they'll be putting those together. They've kind of met with all the neighbors and pretty
finalized as far as where it's going to go. They're just waiting for the bids, the plans and specs to
be put together to go out to bid so then the second component of that would be acquisition of
some open space. So the Park and Rec Director has been working at several areas, working with
the task force and they've gotten ideas and so that still hasn't come and that's part of what wove
into the Bluff Creek that the Council's looking into. Is there an opportunity maybe even in that
area for some acquisition and how does that relate to the Bluff Creek ordinance. So we've kind
of moved a lot from the active, some of the other needs that we have. So I don't think
we're...additional,besides Bandimere, another large community park where we're scheduling
_ softball but we will see a couple other neighbor active parks and then acquisition of open space.
This section will be going to the Park Commission at their next meeting just for their review and
then they'll spend more time documenting...so by the April meeting they'll have made changes
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that they want to it back to you. But the Park and Rec Director has looked at it. So again we've
got the goals and policies in place if you have any questions on that we'd be happy to answer —
those.
Blackowiak: I just have one question and I think I may have to call Todd for the answer on this
but on page 8, where it talks about existing acreage in the park system. Does the formulas for
computing the existing acreage include wetlands? Because it seems to me that it's somewhat
over stated on this existing acreage. And I know that this was a question before that we had had —
maybe a year or so ago on the park task force and I'm not sure if it did.
Aanenson: It doesn't on neighborhood. The only one I can think that it may on the wildlife —
refuge.
Blackowiak: Well I mean I laughed because Rice Marsh Lake Park, which I live by, is located —
right in my neighborhood and is shown as being you know 100 acres or something and that's like
1 dry acre and 99 wet so. —
Aanenson: ...right, it's an open space protected but you're right. How much upland is it that's
useable.
Blackowiak: Yeah I would just be curious as to how those numbers were derived.
Aanenson: Whether they're like gross or net.
Blackowiak: Exactly. So I don't know if I should call Todd or... —
Aanenson: Yes, that's a good point.
Conrad: Is that the page that's supposed to be there?
Aanenson: Yes. It's actually, it was in the previous one too. It's just over a typical trail —
construction... That's fine you know.
Conrad: It's way out of context you know so. —
Generous: It's part of the checklist that the Met Council has.
Aanenson: They wanted it in there, you know. There's certain criteria that they want. The
matrix of the different parks. What a typical trail would look like.
Conrad: The standards that are set, 13 acres per 1,000 people. 5 acres per 1,000... Where did
those come from?
Aanenson: Those are the Met Council numbers. On page 2.
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Conrad: Page 8.
Aanenson: Those came from the previous comprehensive plan that was developed by the Park
and Rec Commission, and that's actually what Todd uses for his ratio in the ordinance. Park and
Rec uses .75 acres per household and he comes up with rationale and that equates to...or an
acreage fee.
Conrad: You say those are good numbers and we basically, the rest of the grid's down there said
that we have enough park system right now. That's what it says. You don't need to really
expand. Maybe a few tweaks but for the next 20 some years we don't really need much, is the
way I read it.
Aanenson: Right. If we go back to what we said,what we have in land use and it's kind of
deceiving. We have parks and open space and then we have public open space so if you go back
to what we have in the land use, it's actually...the parks and open space.
Generous: There's one other thing. In neighborhood parks you have service areas and so that's
why we think that's where our concentration will be in the future.
Blackowiak: Is that a half mile?
Generous: Quarter.
Blackowiak: Quarter mile, okay.
Aanenson: So if you look at parks and open space, in the year 2020, it will be 12 %. Right now
we're at, in 1991 we were at 17% so it will be 12%but if you add public and semi-public, that
would be the Arboretum, Camp Tanadoona, those it actually comes up to 20%of the city would
be protected in open space. And that's based on this land use. Putting it on the computer
generated, what does the land use equate to. It's 20% of the city is in open space of some type
and some of it, like the golf course is public and the Arboretum is public, semi-public but that's a
pretty good number.
Conrad: Compared to other cities it's probably pretty high.
Aanenson: Right. And the anomalies we've got the wildlife refuge. We've got the Arboretum.
Conrad: So we're counting up that wildlife refuge?
Aanenson: Right. Right.
Conrad: The impact of higher density that we're trying to get, is that incorporated in these
numbers? In other words, have we looked at the housing chapter?
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Aanenson: It will be higher. That's what I'm saying. This would probably be in the bottom end
because if we do the cluster zoning along the creek, you're actually going to have more because —
what was taken as totally green, if you followed Bluff Creek, the green, that was a minimum. It
doesn't follow the primary zone so it may go up.
Conrad: Is it planned to have absence charts in here that would, I'm not looking at, some of the
details on individual parks just are meaningless to me very seriously. They're just definitely,but
a system is important.
Aanenson: This map will be part of the document and we'll have a park and trail map with... All
the parks on the maps and the linkages. That will be part of the comprehensive plan. —
Conrad: And what are we doing with the open space plan? —
Aanenson: Well this shows on here they're identified on here too like the Arboretum is
identified. The regional park is identified. All that will be on one. —
Conrad: So basically it says what we have is, our open space plan is what we have.
Aanenson: No. Our open space plan is also the comprehensive plan where we've guided parks
and open space is also on the comprehensive plan.
Conrad: What is our open space plan? I don't see it in here. I think it's merged with park and
rec. I don't know what our open space plan is.
Aanenson: Well I think it follows too through with the goals.
Conrad: There's only one goal and it doesn't, there are 23 goals in the natural resources. There's —
one goal here that doesn't say anything.
Aanenson: Well yeah. I think those are probably written in a goal form, we would put them —
more in goal policy. As development comes in we go through the exercise as we indicated
before to either take land or fee extraction. One or the other. Again based on the ratio...but the
comprehensive plan shows in the future where we're going to put the significant portions of open —
space. We've got the Degler farm on there. That was one area that was identified for possible
acquisition. South of Lyman.
Conrad: But that's not in what I'm reading here so how do I know that? I think things were
identified real clearly in natural resources. They're even, they're clear in transportation. I don't
have a clue in this section. I really don't. There are a lot of nice words but they don't, I really —
don't know what we stand for here and I'll just challenge Park and Rec. This is real soft. We
are, we do have a lot of parks. I'm real comfortable with where we are by the way, but in terms —
of a chapter in our book, this doesn't say. This doesn't commit us to anything. It just says we
really do have what we need basically. This is my bottom line and it's just you know 30 words
or less. —
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We've over parked and so we're just going to, as we grow, we've got enough and we'll infill
here. We'll put neighborhood parks in. We really don't have any other major needs. Okay,
that's my summary and you two know more than I do but I have, after I read that, I don't see
things that I'd like to see put in. A terrific job on Bluff Creek trail but there's nothing here.
We're doing a terrific job I think in the trail system but there's nothing here. We talk open space
but I don't have a, you know how are we doing that? Well we're doing it by the natural, we're
doing it by three pieces that we already have so it's done. So we're not doing anything you
know. So I don't, it's not a forecast to me. It's not a 20 years out. It's not here's where we
could, take a look back at natural resources. That tells me what we want to do. What we want to
accomplish. Where we're going. Transportation to a degree does the same thing. This says
we're okay.
Blackowiak: Well I'd like to add one thing. When you say we're banking of the large pieces.
For example Tanadoona could very easily be sold. So either the city comes up with the money to
buy it, or something else is going to happen. And I mean maybe we need to address that as well.
Aanenson: The Council's addressed that same issue.
Blackowiak: In the comp plan. I mean do we need to mention that?
Aanenson: Right, that was one of their comments. Yes. That's a good point.
Conrad: It sort of says we will do what we can afford to do here. We kind of have what we
need. But we're not really flaunting the stuff that we've really done very well here and it's not
talking out to me. It's just not jumping and that's, again we're doing this a little bit for the Met
Council but it doesn't set a vision for me and therefore it won't set a vision for other people that
are maybe trying to direct where we're going in the park and rec area so again, if we have an
open space policy, I'd like to. It says Chanhassen will try to protect open spaces when they
become available and we will pursue buying them. Something like that. I don't know. I don't
have a commitment to that.
Aanenson: We do in the capital improvements plan and we'll go through that but you're right.
We need to weave that a little bit.
Joyce: Kate, I assume that when the parks come in front of us, it goes through the same process?
I've been here a couple years and never had a park come in front of me so I...
Aanenson: What we'll do is we'll show you the changes that they wanted. Some of the changes
that...
Joyce: But they have like a site plan review and all that kind of thing?
Aanenson: Oh!
Joyce: How does the park work?
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Aanenson: Yes, they're supposed to. They're supposed to come in front of you. I think we did _
Roundhouse Park. I think you saw that. I don't know if you were. That's the one at
Minnewashta Parkway. That came before you.
Joyce: Oh yeah, I remember that. I'm sorry...
Aanenson: Yeah, right. And then you know Bandimere and did we, City Center Park. But you
did see the one on Minnewashta, I know that.
Joyce: I know the one on Minnewashta. I wasn't here but I remember. The only other thing I
wanted to say, and I'll...torch from Ladd but in looking at these parks, there sure are a lot of
ballfields and soccer fields and hockey rinks and stuff but it'd be nice to have, I remember Ladd
saying once about an amphitheater and it struck me...all these playing field parks. It'd be nice to
have one of them...
Conrad: Maybe that's where this needs to be. I haven't figured out where that amphitheater
should be in terms of a section but yeah.
Joyce: The only other thing I can say is that they mentioned it in the Lake Minnewashta
Regional Park. Future plans...
Aanenson: That'd be long term because the next think they'd probably do in 5 to 10 years would
be a picnic shelter and that's really in their 5 to 10 year plan.
Joyce: I just think that one of the, in the introduction maybe it should mention this, provide
facilities for a growing and diverse population. ...diversity of the population will be all of us are
going to age here, and I'm not going to be able to use a ballfield or a hockey rink or anything _
else. Sure would like to be in Chanhassen 20 years from now and I think I'd like to...some sort
of gathering spot where you'd have...
Conrad: That's a little bit of my concern with the whole chapter. There's just not a lot... which
we have been but there's not specifics in there and I'd sure like to challenge the Park and Rec to
really think of specifics.
Joyce: I think there's a definition of parks...I like to be innovative with parks too like everything
else you put here. Like Ladd said, natural resources.
Conrad: Now he's getting me going again. Those are the things we should be committed to,
whether there's budget there or not. And the connectivity in terms of trails is really important.
And there may not be budget to do it but there should be a policy, or a goal that says we will
connect all of Chanhassen so that they can get downtown without using a car. Now maybe we
can't do that money wise but I tell you, I think you look at some of the things that the study said
that lead right into some very definite things that we should be shooting for. If we don't say that
we're going to shoot for them, we're not going to get there. _
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Brooks: Well to back you up, I think if you wait for the budget, it stops you from looking at
_ innovative funding sources. That's what I mean so that's why I agree with you. I think we
should go ahead and try to commit to it and that will force us to look for money from other
places. I mean it could be a private donation. It could, it doesn't have to come from regular tax
— sources. I want to third that amphitheater idea. I think it's a really great idea and I think it has
nothing to do with aging because I think...
— Joyce: Well no...but it just seemed like there was an over preponderance of.
Brooks: There is and it makes a nice gathering spot I think. A different type of gathering spot
— for parents with kids as well as empty nesters and it's a gathering spot that brings everybody in
the city. Like you're saying, not just when you go to a ballfield you're just going for a specific
reason and not everybody goes.
Joyce: You exclude a portion of the population...
— Brooks: Right, exactly. And the amphitheater really brings everybody together.
Joyce: The farmers market, great idea. I think it will be very successful.
—
Brooks: ...Minneapolis with their open band shells and I know...
—
Joyce: That's our comments I guess.
Generous: Transportation then, which was a perfect lead in with the trail. That's one of the
things we were trying to...emphasis to provide the linkages throughout the community and
outside the community. ...connect the whole community for, and I think our trail plan does that.
_ At least it shows... The transportation element, at first we wanted to try to point out some of our
accomplishments. The City has been very proactive on working on transportation issues and so
we go through a list of things that we have done. We've taken the lead in trying to upgrade our
road system. As the discussion before, we're an opt out community. We have, we're working to
provide better transit opportunities and we're working on the trail system. Multi mode of
transportation... Chanhassen, there's a street system shows us growing very fast. Since 1990
— we've doubled the amount of roadway that we have in the community. About 140 miles of
roadway. Just 8 years ago we were at...so a phenomenal rate of growth for our road system. I
hadn't thought about it. I'd like to compare what our trail system was 8 years ago and show that.
— We are improving on that. With the referendum we know that we're adding some significant
segments into the trail system and... In developing a transportation plan at least then the road
system you have to classify different roadways and their functions and so we've put that
— information in there up front with the previous plan was twice as long as this one and everything
was pushed all over and we tried to consolidate them out of the information in one area so we
talk about the function of a lot of our roadways based on the different classification. I should
—
point out that we had discussion with Council at a work session and they have problems with the
classification that we'll be looking at. Making revisions to. Part of the problem with the
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classification system is we need the Eastern Carver County study to be complete...
recommendations in the future. The big issue that comes out of here is we can find out what our _
transportation deficiencies are, insufficiencies are so we don't have the map. Now again, that
will come out of the study...problem areas. Areas currently and long term and most of us are
familiar with them but we'll have the hard data to show us exactly where they are and maybe —
some phasing information to help us address those.
Aanenson: I just want to add there...take away from what Bob was saying is,we have to look at —
a 212 and a no 212 build out. That's one of the scenarios because our concern is that we may be
built out before 212 does and that is a significant impact for those people on Pioneer and Lyman
because the road classification would change and it's going to be a lot, the only way to stop that —
is to say we're not going to grow and I'm not sure that would solve the problem because a lot of
our impact is being done by what's happening to the west of us. So that's a significant issue and
we need to make sure we're addressing that. East west transit is a problem and Chaska's also —
growing very fast and a lot of that traffic is coming, in the mornings if you're going down
Pioneer or Lyman, it's heavy and it's only going to continue to grow. We're not going to be
—
down there for a number of years yet either but it's other people's, so we're waiting to see what
those numbers means and again, if we don't build 212, what are the implications and that may
change the classifications of some of our streets and they may be able to handle more traffic.
Generous: I'd go beyond that and I'd say they will...to carry more traffic. What we're trying to
do is provide assistance so our citizens can get around town without having to hop on their —
arterial roadways. That's access boulevards on Highway 5. On both sides of Highway 5 and
that's what some of the connectors are north of TH 5. So we need to look at that. Capacity is the
general problem that we run into...Trunk Highway 101, both north and south of Highway 5. The —
litany of the deficiencies go on and on and so we tried to address that as best we can and saying
that these are the things that we need to improve. One of the things that we'll have to look at in
the future is trying to prioritize those improvements...ultimate funding sources. We've provided, —
there are some local connections that we specifically addressed on page 13 of this. Roadways
that come together or almost come together and aren't connected and so we wanted to
specifically point out that in time these areas will be connected. They'll provide for the local _
means for people to get from one side of the community to another. Another issue is maybe
sometimes where we have cul-de-sacs that are abutting each other and maybe instead of putting
the roadway through...at least at a minimum the pedestrian connections...and to our major —
collector roadway system and where we're putting out sidewalk and trail systems. A lot of
technical data in this. The traffic analysis. We looked at population, households and
employment from 1990 to 2020. This is the data that was provided to SRF to do their —
transportation study. One of the interesting elements that we found in doing this is the City of
Chanhassen has a significant number of home businesses. We believe this trend will continue
and this data will incorporate that. Then the final thing is as you looked at the plan and —
recommended improvements. Again we go back to the list of deficiencies and what we want to
do. Unfortunately we still have to wait on the study to find out if this is all...if we need more
improvements or and how to prioritize those. We did expand on the transit element. The system
that was in place in 1990 has grown with Southwest Metro. They have reverse commute, express
services, circulator services through the different communities... transportation and management
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strategies are something that we have pushed more as developments come in, Arboretum
Business Park for instance is one of their...that investigate and use those opportunities where it's
— possible. We have the light rail transit is one of the elements...programs that we can look at.
We've added commuter rail to this as an opportunity. Back to trails and sidewalks. We want to
get that intricate...and finally the need to implement that...city alone. We have to work with
— other agencies. The goal is to create a multi mode of transportation system which permits the
safe, efficient and effective movement of people and goods. That remains the same. As part of
this, we mentioned what we have incorporated more pedestrian and bicycle policies as part of the
— policies and so that basically is the whole presentation.
Burton: On page 8 at the top it refers to Trunk Highway 101 and Great Plains Boulevard. Is that
— TH 101 and Great Plains don't match up anymore do they?
Aanenson: It's the south.
Burton: I don't know if it's referring to the one road or.
Generous: It used to come down 78th and then around and over but I believe now we look at TH
101 coming to TH 5 and then over to Market.
—
Burton: I just think it's kind of outdated perhaps. And then the graph that you talk about the
traffic analysis zone and just looking at it when we were reading this didn't make much sense
without a key. I think you have to have some type of key on there so.
Generous: ...we'll provide that map.
Burton: Okay, and then the only other thing I had was, I like the goals but I like things to perhaps
incorporate the policies and the next page being compatible with the surrounding environment
— and perhaps even preserving the aesthetics or the agricultural characteristics. Perhaps
incorporating that into the goal. I don't know if that's appropriate or not but it would be nice.
That does seem more of a goal than a policy too.
Generous: It's the one on the top of page 24.
— Burton: Yeah I added the agricultural part. That's all I have.
Brooks: I'm not the expert on this. I'm just a big whiner. I think what you've done is really
— good. The information is there. My only criticism is I would like to see implementation of the
recommended system expanded dramatically. When I read this I see inter agency cooperation but
you don't talk about what type and how and I think that really should be expanded. I think they
—
should be all broken out and it should be discussed. What kind of cooperation you're looking
for. I think particularly with Hennepin County there's two areas we need to discuss. One
obviously is situations like Trunk Highway 101. The other one is, I think we should really
—
discuss they're doing a commuter rail study. There's one on light rail and there should be
something in here on how we're going to piggy back so they're not running on their own and
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how we plan to cooperate with them. Who is the contact person for that. I think that should be in
the plan. Not the name like John Smith but it should be the Chanhassen Planner or the Carver —
Regional Rail person or whoever will be coordinating with the Hennepin County regional rail
person to ensure that Carver is part of any light rail study because otherwise what will happen to
us is light rail will end at the Hennepin County border and we don't want that but I really feel —
strongly that this section really needs to be flushed out in detail because part of a plan is the
implementation. That's the most important part. Funding sources. This is where I felt that the
consultant was sort of falling down on the job for us. I was really hoping and looking for the —
consultant to look for specific funding sources. List them as to what they are and start matching
them up with projects as to what is our best means of finding funding? Is it ISTEA for Project
A? Is it county money for Project B? Is it city money? Really list the projects, list the funding —
sources. And especially talk about ISTEA and I think one of the things we need to look at too
and whether this is part of the plan or not, is sort of being a watchdog on the planning
commission I noticed that one of the things that's happening over at the Met Council on ISTEA —
that I've been vocal about and not happy about is that they have a lot of committee members
from Dakota County and Hennepin County and I talked to Nancy Mancino about this. Who —
magically write their own plans, submit them to the committee that they happen to be sitting on
and amazingly things get funded. How do you imagine that happens? But I mean that's
seriously happening over there and we do not have good representation for Carver County on it's, —
we have representation on the TAV but we do not have representation on the committees and it's
the committees level where the funding is coming in and we are really, really losing out on that.
Dakota County and Hennepin County have been really very good about stacking those —
committees. I have a list of everybody on the committee. If you'd like to see that, I'd be happy
to show you but we're falling behind and we're going to keep falling behind and now that
Congress is looking at giving us more ISTEA money, I think our area really needs to make a big —
push and I think more of us could volunteer to sit on these transportation committees and be a
part of it and, if Hennepin and Dakota Counties can write their own grants and review their own
grants, well I think we could be writing our own grants and reviewing our own grants too. But -.
that's why to me implementation should be really, really, really flushed out. That's where the
plan is. That's the vision part. That's my lecture.
Conrad: I feel more comfortable with this section. I think the background's good. We're doing
the study so I know we know what we're doing. We reference 212...and it's like we think it's
the solution and it's probably not. I don't know. That's the only uncomfortable part here. It's —
stated over and over again, 212 will be...and it may not happen... It's like we're being naive to
put it in there because potentially, well I don't know.
Brooks: ...before, we put it in there but we push for how we're going to get it funded.
Something else I noticed that's happening that we're missing out on is that some of these
counties have consultants going to Washington D.C. to get money for the project. It's become —
sort of the new thing. The consultant gets the funding for the project and then of course
magically gets to work on a project. But that's, I've watched Anoka County doing that quite a bit —
and you know if maybe we decide that we want 212 and we're going to, if it's political we're
going to go out and we're going to get the funding if it means a lot of money.
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Aanenson: The Council's moving in that direction. Starting to have those discussions. How are
we going to accomplish this? Because I think as Bob indicated, as maybe you...it's going to take
a lot of... If you read in the paper today how much Carver County is growing. Whether we chose
to grow or not, as I said before, we're impacted by it.
Conrad: So Kate, you know what's the purpose of this section?
Aanenson: To outline the deficiencies and it ties back into this capital improvements plan and
Allyson's point is right and the same thing came up in the park and rec. What we need to do is
show you better how we've identified those funding sources because there's state aid money.
There's federal money. There's Met Council money and we did put that in the capital
improvement plan and maybe we need to do it better. It's to show deficiencies. How we're
going to connect those, and again it give prioritization out there for people to understand where
our connection's need to be. Where our deficiencies are and how the Council... Now we've got
a 20 year capital improvement program that we reviewed annually but they have to decide which
is the greater priority and that's the tough part of the Council. But that's really what this is for.
To show where our roads are going to be in the future and that's when those ultimately those
numbers come back and say, we're going to...even longer list of deficiencies and then how do
we plan for those. Where do we bring our MUSA in based on that? Where do we put our
resources?
Conrad: But if 212 is not funded, and there's no funding in the next 20 years right? So what are
_ the, help me. It's there. It's in our plan and it's going to off load some traffic but it's not funded
so how do you plan with an unfunded road that would off load traffic off of TH 5 a little bit?
Aanenson: Other roads have to carry more volume.
Brooks: I think also what we're saying that we need to get away from is MnDOT doesn't have
212 in their plan to build it so if we want it, we can...other ways to get funding. There are plenty
of counties out there that are just going to their congressional delegation and saying...
Aanenson: And that was the intent with the toll road. That was a creative way that somebody
came up with to try to find a way. This is a demonstration.
Brooks: There's other ways but I think we need to get away from saying well if MnDOT says
no, then we drop the whole thing.
Aanenson: I think Allyson's right. We need to maybe be a little bit more creative...capital
improvements because we have identified resources in there but to say who's going to take
ownership and that's what I hear you saying. Who's going to do this? Who's going to be
responsible for following through on these issues? That's an important part of it.
Conrad: Would you do anything different in this plan if you knew 212 wouldn't ever happen?
Generous: Yeah, to expand the mass transit portion.
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Conrad: But what would you do to Highway 5? Anything? Anything can be done to TH 5? —
Generous: The traffic study that said if you six lane it, it works.
Aanenson: Yeah, they still can't do it. That's what we're saying.
Generous: We'd have to encourage more people to live and work here. —
Aanenson: Not to drive.
Generous: So they don't have to get out.
Conrad: Okay.
Generous: Sewer policy plan. Again the consultant is working on updating this. We had a
comprehensive sewer policy plan and a comprehensive water...required to explain the system...
We have significant investment in our water and sewer infrastructure. The first part of it is...
sewer. One of the big problems with the sewer system is inflow and infiltration which is causing —
us to clean clear water. The City is proactive in trying to resolve those issues. We had an
inspection program that started last year and should be completed this year so we've been...
some of the inflow through sump pumps. We had improvements to our systems specifically in _
the downtown area. Again we tried to go and say what we've done to help improve this. It's all
in a system. We have lift stations and pipes that need to be done. The plan basically shows
where it's going to go. This is really tied in with the MUSA expansion plan and that's just how —
we anticipate the community developing and then this is the actual technical... We tried to
project what sewer usage was for... It's interesting that the commercial and industrial usage per
gallon per acre is done... This allows for more diverse development. Greater water users...city —
being fully developed around 2020 and so this is what the plan is based on and how do we get to
there. What our flow rates would be. Based on that, we've done this in-house so we'll have to
wait for the consultant but it looks like we will be under our allocation... We had to address on
site treatment systems. We anticipate that we probably will have about...using our large lot
subdivisions...large portion of the community. Since 1987 we've required two drainfields for
septic systems so if one fails they have the... The City is looking at, has done and will continue
to do a...septic owners to show them how to, make sure that they're systems work adequately.
The public safety department is trying to institute an inspection program to go out and check
all... required so they're moving forward on that. I keep reminding them every time I go in and —
ask them to update our comprehensive plan on our IST...and yes, that was supposed to be done
last year and we'll do it. It's in the process right now so...updating this. Under future
subdivisions on page 12 we did add a policy. The last paragraph under, in future subdivisions. It
says with the exception of existing large lot subdivisions,parcels of land currently in existence or
developed land outside the MUSA that maintains a 1 unit per 10 acre density, the city will no
longer permit residents to... That is a change in the policy and... Next is the water system.
Again we had to explain the existing system. Our trunk distribution map is in the process of
being revised. We know that from the 1993 plan, the number of houses being reduced from what —
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we ultimately predicted because...reduced the number of ultimate build out population. And we
go and explain the existing systems. There is a new schematic in here that takes into account the
_ entire community, not just everything north of Highway 5... funding systems. We've expanded
429 projects have become a significant way to expanding our trunk utility system. So we
discussed additional projects that were done through that process.
Aanenson: ...429 would be an assessment project. The City carries the debt and then we assess
it back...so that's how we've done a lot of our improvements. We've even gone back and done
— records on that using that assessment process such as...
Generous: ...policy just for an efficient system of utilities and then this will lead into our capital
— improvement element which talks about a sequencing or a guide plan for how we...based on the
land use plan, phasing plan that's in the land use element.
— Aanenson: Just to go back and remind you how we came up with the phasing of the MUSA
which was this small map, which we talked about when we... What we did is we took the
comprehensive sewer map...those subdistricts we calculated households. Type of business
—
acreages and tried to figure out how that equates to what threshold we can handle. That's what
helped us establish the ultimate...calculated population and that's back in the land use section
where we showed you those charts based on specific subdivisions so we believe our data is pretty
—
accurate. Taking that back out. We carried that out into population projections. As Bob
indicated, traffic zones and again carrying it through. What we need for ultimate build up for
sewer. Can we meet capacity for water design so it's been very beneficial to have the...system
—
where we can have all this modeling on. Our data is so much better than what we had in 1990.
Joyce: Is that it? Any discussion on the final segment?
—
Conrad: I was just trying to assess the one impact that Bob brought up. Not permitting
residential development not serviced by sewer.
Generous: 1 per 10.
Aanenson: It's the 1 per 10 which the ordinance allows right now.
— Generous: Or if there's an existing RR district that has 5 acre lots subdivided that could have
been to...
— Aanenson: ...until sewer and water's available and that's really...made in 1987 when we had the
Lake Ann Interceptor Agreement moved to the 1 per 10 and we're putting that in this statement.
If you choose to develop at a 1 unit per 10 and sit on the large lot,but I think most of the majority
— of people that are not without subdivision that could be subdivided are anticipating urban service.
That's what we've heard from them. They'd like it brought in soon.
—
Generous: They wanted to come first,yes.
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Conrad: So what are the benefits by allowing the septic systems? We basically got persuaded
septic systems do work very well. So by not really following that in future subdivisions that have
sewer, what are we missing? Are we missing anything?
Aanenson: One is, as we pointed out in the natural resources, we are concerned because we've —
got, we're served by ground water. Aqua firs. The quality. Maintain the quality of ground
water. That's an ongoing issue in this state so that's one. We want to make sure our wetlands
and our lakes, we're not doing anything... The second is, we've got larger parcels that need to —
be having municipal services...and to make a project accessible by letting other properties
develop that way, inefficiently, it makes...sometimes bring an area in to urban services because
you...land that's now been subdivided that they don't want to be, have urban services. We've —
got that one segment that runs through the community south of Lake Riley. Down to Hesse Farm
and it's not going to come in for a long time. There's no reason to. They've got existing
systems. But it makes it difficult for the people to the south where we do want to provide urban —
services such as the seminary fen site where we want to preserve. Changing the ground water in
that area would have a significant impact on the water quality there. We certainly want to bring
in urban services there but it's going to be more difficult...and we're not going to force them to —
do it. We certainly want to be able to have enough assessment to make it cost efficient for them
to hook up. _
Conrad: So you see no drawbacks to that?
Aanenson: There might be a couple individual cases and I certainly think that the Council, and
you may have to evaluate that to say, looking at this. I know the situation came up, you know we
tried to protect these large lots and have had 1 or 2 homeowners that have had systems fail that —
would want to have municipal services brought in. I mean the Council does have to look at that
on an individual basis and say does it make sense...penalize the rest of the subdivision and assess
them all for one person's have a failing system. Or one person wants to go forward and not wait. —
What does that do? What we know based on know we've got these land uses laid out, that it
seems to be efficient to provide sewer to the rest of the city in a timely manner as we laid it out.
That it works. But the more property that falls off and divides what we would call inefficiently —
in large lots here and there, it makes it less cost effective for the person who does want to
develop. It becomes increasingly more expensive and we want to make sure that it does make
sense to have urban services again relating to the water quality issue. So I think Bob's going to —
take a few minutes, if you have questions on the capital improvements...
Generous: Yeah, we did try to revise it based on changes to our staging plan and how one option —
originally and then after evaluating it we change it to try to bring in the 212/169 corridor earlier
and also to preserve those large lot subdivisions that meet some of our...housing diversity. That's
one of the diversity things we have are large lots and so we would like to preserve that. The only —
real year in here is 1998. The rest of it serves as a guide. We have all these projects that need to
be done and we can evaluate future capital programs based on this but the staging isn't exactly
set in stone. We can look at it every 5 years we're mandated to...our budget and our capital —
program to see that we are...so this is just, it's a good planning document. It makes people
aware of...capital investment we'll need in the community. —
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Aanenson: It also identifies funding sources too and again as Bob said, those are going to be
changing. We're going to have high priority on something we hadn't anticipated that may
change a priority but what we've tried to do is be...in the year 2020, this seems to reflect all the
deficiencies in our system that we've tried to identify in those...some things we hadn't
anticipated are going to come up and you re-evaluate that. What we've tried to do is put a budget
out there that you would...
Brooks:...
Aanenson: That's still an issue. She still is concerned that it's not a higher priority and since
she's not here...opportunity to speak for her. They're still concerned that where it's placed on
there. The Council, I'm not sure is going to make a decision to move it up sooner. Within the
framework that we're working on the comprehensive plan, they realize it's an issue. They were
also committed to go through a strategic planning process to look at some of their long term,
short term goals. There's a lot of issues that when you look at this one here...additional hockey
rinks. Whether it's the library. Public works. Road expansions. How that all shakes out into
that priority but they're concerned that it's still not a higher priority. And they're looking for the
Planning Commission to give them support too. Give them a higher priority. Again from this
meeting it's not going to, comments from this meeting are not going forward to the Council yet.
This is still for us to make some changes but I'm confident and I've encouraged them to have a
lot of people at the town meeting on April 22°d
Brooks: I think it is important.
Aanenson: It is. It's very important. Just to piggy back on that too. There was District 112
had...that they wanted to do kind of the library, the school and so I think part of the study issue
that the Council's looking at too is what should that library look like? Is it a regional library?
Does it still belong to Chanhassen? Something that maybe the three communities of Victoria,
Chaska and Chanhassen all want to work together on? And what should it look like so that's part
of the equation too and I think it sounds like, kind of like the park referendum. You need side
task force to kind of study what it should be and where it should be. And there's certainly people
that are committed to keeping it in Chanhassen. Kind of a bigger issue than just funding. It's
what it should look like and where it belongs. Someone needs to process that too so it's...
Joyce: Would anyone from the audience like to add to this discussion? It's not really a public
hearing but if you'd like to step up and...at this time. This is the open discussion right now.
Mike Mullens: ...I'm Mike Mullens at 2547 Bridal Creek Trail. I'd like to start out by wishing
you all a Happy St. Patty's Day. I see a few Irish names and some of you that maybe wish you
were Irish. I served as the Chair of parks, open space and trail citizens committee last spring
with Alison and on the referendum. I'm very happy to see the work that's gone forward with it.
It looks great. There was a lot to be done. My comments tonight,just very briefly. It's
informational only. I'm working with several citizens in the city to raise signatures on a petition
to ask the Council to rescind the authorization for the, I'll check the wording here. The plans and
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specifications for the Coulter Boulevard extension west of TH 5. Or west of Galpin. And we are
circulating some petitions to gather some signatures. We had some conversations with some —
Council people and I, speaking for myself, would like to see the Council re-open this
conversation having to do with what's best for the community at that end. I know there's been a
lot of work that's already been done on that and I don't mean to denigrate that at all. I would just —
like to be part of the conversation and several other people that I've spoken with, kind of a
growing number of people I've spoken with would like to have, probably have participated
earlier and it's our fault if we don't keep up with the Minutes and all. I support Mr. Conrad's
line of thought about taking a position and making it a point of principle for the City. In
particular, in this case, that might commit Chanhassen to expend all efforts to preserve the open
—
space and the wetlands we have, and I don't know that that's not already a principle that's in
action and probably would be well to state that. There's several of us will be continuing to make
conversation with officials of the city as well as you and the City Council to also speak to trying
to retain the integrity of the O'Shaughnessy gift land as well. And those are my comments. I just
wanted to have a chance to make that comment before you. Thank you.
Joyce: Thank you for coming up.
Aanenson: Can I just comment on that? ...Monday night at the City Council meeting. Back on _
the agenda.
Joyce: So it will be on the agenda Monday night. —
Linda Janson: Hi. I'm Linda Janson, 240 Eastwood Court and I guess the part of the
presentation that I'm specifically wanting to speak to is the whole natural resources. We are so —
fortunate, as you point out within the comprehensive plan, to be living near so many protected
open spaces. Be it the National Wildlife Refuge, the Minnesota Landscape Arboretum is a
different entity altogether, though I do acknowledge that it is open space. But I think the focus —
that we really need to give it is that though we have these big pieces of open space, the emphasis
that's made for the wildlife, for the habitat, and most recently for the"pollinators". I mean as
simple as our trees and our fruits being pollinated. If we eliminate corridors within the city for —
those things to move, we're hobbling ourselves. You know be it our fruits because of the
pollinators. Be it the habitat because now we no longer have the animals living with us. And of
course speaking to the Coulter Boulevard issue, we keep coming back to that because yes. It's —
just this little portion of property, but it's a wetland and it is so rich in habitat and to have taken a
piece of property like that sitting next to one of our schools and not have looked at it as an
—
opportunity, and an opportunity for the children and to teach them about the richness that they
have here in the community. They don't have to get on a bus. They don't have to go with their
parents to the Arboretum or the Wildlife Refuge. They can actually walk out their back doors or
walk to their schools and all around them in that wetland they have, there's wildlife that's
happening that so many of the city kids don't get to experience. And I do spend time doing some
volunteer work out at Lowly Nature Center so I do get the pleasure of sitting out there when
you've got 100 kindergartners coming from Minneapolis and they're seeing the open spaces for
the first time. And the impact that it makes on you as an adult I can't tell you. I had never seen
anything like it. You know I grew up with being out of doors but to see these kids never having
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seen a chickadee. Coming through the Nature Center then doing the chickadee-dee-dee,
chickadee-dee-dee for the first time they've heard it. And to know that we're sitting in
Chanhassen and we have these little pockets and corridors that we can protect when you're doing
a comprehensive plan like this. Look at the little pieces too and I guess that's again where I'm
coming back to that whole Coulter Boulevard. You've just got that neat little pocket that if you
— protect it,you're providing such a resource to the kids and if you were to make it a teaching
center. If you have the ability to be able to bring those kids over from the school and have them
be hands on. You know continue the path through or continue the bike trails through. That's
— what we're having the conversation with the Council on, on hopefully Monday night as far as
cutting it back. Not putting the 9 ton truck through that type of property. But one of the things I
wanted to share, and I shared these in the Council meeting. I think sometimes we don't, we're
— just not aware of what we actually have around us... But without having to introduce anything,
and these are right in Chanhassen. This is looking out my back window. A pair of young barn
owls. I had never seen anything like it before and I can... The wood duck. Just out in the trees
— because the trees...heron. This is almost an everyday occurrence. The palliated woodpecker.
And...wetlands for a red headed woodpecker. I mean forget it. You just don't see them but here
in Chanhassen because we have... They're not even supposed to occur...so I guess what I'm
saying is, I get so excited when I see these wonderful resources and what we can do with them
and again to emphasize as you're doing your comprehensive plan, look at the little pieces and if
we can maintain those little pieces, we've protected a great deal.
—
Joyce: Thank you very much. Kate, now what are they dedicating as far as that portion of where
Coulter Boulevard? Is that like 40 acres?
—
Aanenson: Right. There's 50 acres on O'Shaughnessy and approximately 50 acres that was
acquired. That was through negotiation. There's some upland there that they could have built on
but we negotiated to do that as part of the open space. And it's the intent to leave it. Sewer has
already gone through and that's where the swath is right now.
Joyce: So besides that development that's right there on the corner...the only thing we're talking
about...is the road going through.
Aanenson: Right. And that goes back to the issue that we had, as Bob said. Even at six lanes of
traffic on TH 5 is, you know we're also looking at,what does that do...so there's some
— significant... And this is something the Council's going to be discussing Monday night so.
Joyce: So I guess one of the thoughts is how much, what kind of restrictions you put on that
— road?
Aanenson: Well there's design standards and Anita can talk to that. It's, I mean it'd be similar
— to the design that's on the other side of Galpin.
Benson: It's a Minnesota State Aid funding route. It would have to be built to a 9 ton standard
—
to apply State Aid street funds to it. If the City wanted to construct a lesser roadway through
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there, that would have to come out the city general fund or other sources. It could not be funded
from State Aid. —
Blackowiak: Also one of the questions that these people are trying to bring up is that do we
need the road through? And that's, I mean there are two definite schools of thought here and
again, Monday night's going to be yeah, that will be at City Council.
Joyce: Okay. Does that about cover?
Aanenson: Yeah, that's capital improvement of the comp plan.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Blackowiak noted the Minutes of the Planning Commission
dated March 4, 1998 as presented. _
ONGOING ITEMS:
Aanenson: I just wanted to let you know what we're looking at for the April 1s` meeting. Bluff
Creek Corporate Center is in for a preliminary PUD approval. And also CSM will bring in the
front two lots remaining adjacent to Highway 5 which would be just east of, excuse me,just west _
of where they are. There's two other lots. You saw the pieces that were filling out Dell Road
adjacent to...so this will pretty much accomplish the completion of that in the industrial park.
And then depending on how the meeting goes next old town, we would like to get a draft in to _
you with design standards...get in on that property. They're waiting for the completion of those.
Take a look at those, if you need another meeting to review that. Council is looking at that.
We've already got applications in for the 15th, second use at the Arboretum Business Park. A _
golf course application on one piece that's not part of the wildlife refuge. At the corner of TH
101 and 212...
Conrad: A golf course where?
Aanenson: It's really a...we have some concerns because it's a natural wetland. They're into it
and they haven't delineated that. Nets that are very tall. Maybe 150 feet... so it may not be on
the agenda. They did delineate the wetland but it was done in the winter and we're not sure that
that's...qualified delineator with the data there so it's not a completed application.
OPEN DISCUSSION:
Brooks: I'm going to start working with the Carver County planners on the County Historic
Preservation portion of the comp plan. I have a meeting next Monday. MnDOT...farmstead
study going on that will take place in Carver County, and as well as there's an LCMR landscape
study that's going to take place in Carver County. And so I just thought I'd ask you if any of you
have any ideas on how, on historic preservation planning in the County, I'd love to hear from _
you... probably not in the foremost thoughts of your mind but if it pops in your head...One thing
that the landscape study's doing is actually looking at agricultural landscapes and talking about
preserving one on the National Register of Historic Places in Carver County. Just so it says this
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is what our heritage looks like. This is...and then we're going to incorporate building studies
with that. Eventually we're going to have to move to thinking, if we want a county ordinance on
preservation...it's going to take a year or so.
Conrad moved, Blackowiak seconded to adjourn the meeting. All voted in favor and the
motion carried. The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
— Planning Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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CITY OF MEMORANDUM
CHANHASSEN TO: Planning Commission
Ti90CityCenter Drive,POBox 147 FROM: Kate Aanenson AICP, Planning Director Or
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317
Phone 612.9371900 DATE: March 25, 1998
General Fax 612.937.5739
Engineering Fax 612.937.9152 SUBJ: Parks and Open Space Element of the Comprehensive Plan
�3rblic Safety Fax 612.934.2524
Web www.ci.chanhassen.ma.us
At your last meeting, you had requested a visionary element of the Park and Open
Space element of the Comprehensive Plan. On Tuesday, March 24, 1998, the
Park and Recreation Commission reviewed and discussed the Park and Open
Space Element and made additional recommendations. Following is a list of
issues they felt needed to be a part of the comp plan:
• Pursuit of arts and theater programming - Create an Arts Council
• Installation of historical street markers - Establish a history center
• Development and focus on high school programs
• Construction of a BMX rail - work on programming for youth development
• Continue commitment of resources to Bluff Creek Greenway (Corridor)
• Identify and explore community partnerships, e.g. Lifetime Fitness, Minnesota
Orchestra, Golf Course
• Acquire open space to preserve the historical landscape, including Chaska
brick homes
• Consider another park referendum in five years
• Complete trail loop around Lake Ann
• Development of facilities that create a revenue system to provide alternative
-- funding for park programs such as a community center or golf course
These goals will be placed in the Park and Open Space element of the
comprehensive plan.
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CITY OF MEMORANDUM
CIIANHASSEN TO: Planning Commission
690 City Center Drive,PO Box 14- FROM: Sharmin Al-Jaff, Planner II
Chanhassen,Minnesota 55317
Phone 612.937.1900 DATE: March 28, 1998
General Fax 612.937.5739
Engineering Fax 612.937.9152 SUBJ: Update on"Old Town"Chanhassen
Public Safety Fax 612934.2524
Web wwu:ci.chanhassen.mn.us
In 1997, work began on preparing a study of the "Old Town" Chanhassen. The
City Council directed staff to conduct the study due to changes that were taking
place in the area that could potentially affect the appearance and character of the
area. The most significant change was the relocation of St. Hubert's School and
Church. This site now has the potential for redevelopment and is being looked at
closely by Chapel Hill Academy as a school and church with plans for an
expansion. The city also owns the Pauly/Pony/Przymus site. The old building
was removed and now has the potential for redevelopment. This has been a
sentimental issue for many residents in the area. The site is zoned Central
_ Business District and was proposed for development as an office building. The
message that came from the residents was to leave the site as an open space. This
was another triggering point for the study. The Schlenk property which has
approximately 4 acres in area, the Colonial Square site, and the Klingelhutz
property, all have the potential for development.
The process began with an issue paper that appeared before the Planning
Commission for discussion. At that meeting, they directed staff to meet with the
neighborhood and property owners in the area to gather their input.
The first neighborhood meeting for"Old Town" Chanhassen took place on
January 13, 1998. Residents,property owners, City Council and Planning
Commission members were invited to the meetings.
Through field surveys and existing data, we identified all the existing uses and
structures in the area. Boundaries of the commercial area were based upon their
potential for redevelopment. The residential boundaries followed the plat of St.
Hubertus, which was created in 1887, and formed the majority of the Village of
Chanhassen. This information was presented to the attendees and it was
explained that their input will help staff develop criteria and guidelines to
maintain the character of the area and establish guidelines for new development.
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The"Old Town"neighborhood boundaries extend from West 77th Street on the
_ north,the railroad tracks to the south,the Chanhassen Dinner Theater to the west
and the St. Hubertus subdivision on the east.
To simplify and make the study area more manageable, we divided the area into
nine districts. These districts are: Residential, St. Hubert's School and Church,
Schlenk property,Old St. Hubert's Church and Cemetery, Klingelhutz Building,
Village Hall, Colonial Square and Country Clean, Railroad Depot and the Dinner
Theater. The attendees split into two groups and were asked to list the strengths,
weaknesses, best and worst outcome of each site over the next 10 years facing
each district(see attachment for detailed responses). This procedure enabled us
to identify the components that need to be preserved or encouraged in future
development, problems/weaknesses that need to be targeted and improved, and
potential land uses in the area. We also needed to develop a mission statement
that recognizes the values of the neighborhood. Participants were informed that
there was no wrong answer. Open space was desirable among land uses.
The second meeting took place on February 24, 1998. The meeting began with
staff briefly touching on the issue of open spaces on developable land. It was
explained that property owners have to have a reasonable use of a property. We
also explained that if these properties were developed, standards needed to be
established to guide these developments. A slide show was presented and each
attendee was asked to rate these slides with a scale of-5 meaning most
unfavorable to a range of+5 meaning most desirable. The slides contained
different types of residential units(both single and multifamily structures)with
` specific design elements such as porches, pitched and flat roofs, brick and wood
exteriors,porches, landscaping, etc. The second segment was a series of
commercial buildings containing(metal and fabric awnings, flat brick walls,
painted brick, stucco, cornices, windows,pitched and flat roofs, one, two and
three story buildings,parking lots, buildings abutting the sidewalks versus a
_ landscape buffer between the buildings and the sidewalk, etc.) The third segment
dealt with open spaces, sidewalks, fences, light fixtures,pedestrian bridges and
street furniture. The results were very consistent in some areas and varied in
others.
Residential: The surveys indicate that flat facades and flat roofs were not
desirable. Residential units (both single and multifamily) scored high when the
facade contained a defined entrance/porch, dormers,recessed second story,brick,
narrow wood siding, fabric awnings,recessed garages, and a design that reflects a
certain time period.
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Commercial: The results indicate that defined cornices on buildings, brick or
narrow wood siding, recessed entrances, street, narrow front yard strip or behind
the building parking, windows with a repeated rhythm, low profile (not to exceed
two story), a balance of fabric awnings (not overly cluttered), a landscape buffer
between the building and the sidewalk.
Open space sidewalks, fences, light fixtures, pedestrian bridges and street
furniture: The results indicate that a flat open space with no defined landscape
was highly rejected. The majority gave higher ratings to settings with a focal
point (gazebo or fountain) surrounded by benches, sidewalks that incorporate a
decorative element(such as a row of brick or cobble stone with the concrete),
mature trees, shielded ornamental light fixtures, and a separation from the street
by an ornamental, open slots metal fences). Light fixtures were an issue for some
residents who value the night sky. Some felt that the City is using the wrong type
of lights, lights that are not recessed and shielded. Staff directed the attendees to
judge the design of the fixture only. The decorative light which received the
lowest rating between eight fixtures was the type used in downtown Chanhassen
along the West 78th median. Pedestrian bridges were included in the presentation
because some of the attendees felt strongly about providing an access point to the
existing pedestrian bridge over Highway 5 and the area north of the railroad
tracks. There is a potential spot for such a bridge and staff is working with the
Railroad Authority on a proposal. Simple design bridges with no concrete rated
the highest.
At that same meeting, staff invited Chapel Hill Academy to the Old Town
meeting. The wish to purchase the existing St. Hubert's School and church with
the intention of expanding it over the next 5-8 years. We explained the
process/study we were conducting and advised Chapel Hill to wait until the study
was completed. We encouraged them to share any information pertinent to this
study and that could impact the area. The area residents welcomed Chapel Hill
_ Academy to the area and felt that this use is consistent with the previous one and
would fit in. The issue of expansion was of concern. Chapel Hill intends to add
a gymnasium along Frontier Trail. These structures are typically two stories
high, constructed of a long flat wall. The residents in the area (specifically those
across the street or next to the church) were concerned with such a building.
They were also concerned with the potential loss of the existing homes and
mature trees along the east portion of the church site.
The third and last neighborhood meeting took place on March 24, 1998. Staff
prepared a mission statement and design guidelines for the development of the
area to ensure that new structures fit in with the existing buildings. Numerous
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issues were raised, mainly dealing with the impact of these guidelines (specifically
if they were adopted as ordinances) on the existing homes. The developers and
owners or potential owners of nonresidential property discouraged the neighbors
from adopting ordinances since they could potentially make their property harder
_ to sell. They also felt that the language in the study makes it difficult to develop
the nonresidential property. Instead, they suggested that each site have a specific
guideline that applies to the specific nonresidential parcel.
The following pages are the "Old Town Chanhassen Plan." It is a plan that had a
team approach consisting of neighbors, property owners, developers, City Council
members, Planning Commissioners, and staff. One of staff's objectives is to
formulate responsive, citizen based action strategies, goals for comprehensive
maintenance and/or improvements, and ordinances to guide redevelopment. We
realize that some of the recommendations or findings will not please everyone,
however, the results were based upon the majority of the survey results.
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The study area is the foundation of the City's origin, so the existing uses and potential uses
should reflect this sense of history and place. This report will address the development
opportunities that exist in this area of the City. Ultimately, the purpose of this report is to
develop and implement design standards for Chanhassen's "Old Town,"both residential,
institutional, and commercial. The standards will assist property owners/developers in selecting
appropriate and historically sensitive designs for their property sites, exterior alterations and
new building construction. These standards will enhance the "sense of place and time" that is
evident in the district. Changes to buildings are often inevitable, and these standards will
provide assurance that review will be based on clear standards.
Mission Statement
The history of the City of Chanhassen is represented by the original St. Hubert's Church and
Village Hall. Further development in "Old Town"shall reflect this history,particularly in
architecture. The design of the residential and commercial uses will maintain the high quality
and integrity as the existing historic structures.
The"Old Town"nonresidential portion of the study area should be an extension of downtown.
It should embody design concepts that reflect the integrity of the area.
The "Old Town"overlay district shall contain the following elements:
• a balance between the pedestrian and the
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• the recognition that "Old Town"contains historic
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• complete pedestrian connections that lead from the
nonresidential "Old Town"to and through the Bpi
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• create continuity along the street by reflecting the
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• locate buildings close to the street, with parking `1dfit
behind or beside the buildings;
• create a strong relationship between buildings,
pedestrian spaces and the street;
• offer pedestrians safety and convenience by Entry from Street
providing entries from both streets and parking Building
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• select building practices and architectural elements to reinforce the historic character of West
78`h Street;
• encourage the preservation and adaptive reuse of structures of historic and architectural
significance;
• provide park and open space facilities that emphasize accessibility and use by Chanhassen
residents; and
• light fixtures that are shielded/recessed and sensitive to the environment
PART 4.
Districts
There are nine districts in the"Old Town"neighborhood: Residential, St. Hubert's School and
Church, Schlenk property, Old St. Hubert's Church and Cemetery, Klingelhutz Building,
Village Hall, Colonial Square and Country Clean, Railroad Depot and the Dinner Theater. Each
district is analyzed by addressing the strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and challenges,
formulating responsive,citizen based action strategies, goals for comprehensive maintenance
and/or improvements, and ordinances to guide redevelopment.
Design Guidelines for Rehabilitation, Additions, and New Construction
1. A property shall be used for its historic/intended purpose or be placed in a new use that requires
L minimal change to the defining characteristics of the building and its site and environment.
2. The historic character of a property shall be retained and preserved. The removal of historic
materials or alteration of features and spaces that characterize a property shall be avoided. If a
property has changed over time in a fashion that sets it out as non-characteristic of the
surrounding area and there are plans to demolish and rebuild the structure, (i.e. Colonial Square
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Building design and location), an effort shall be made to create a new design that reflects similar
setbacks,height, design, and materials to the surrounding area. This shall not mean identical
colors and"cookie cutter"designs as neighboring structures.
3. Most properties change over time. Those changes that have acquired historic significance in
their own right shall be retained and preserved.
4. Deteriorated features shall be repaired. The replacement or addition of a feature shall match the
old in design, color, texture, and other visual qualities and,where possible,materials.
5. New additions, exterior alterations, or related new construction shall not destroy characteristics
of the old and shall be compatible with the massing, size, scale and architectural features to
protect the integrity of the property and its environment.
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RESIDENTIAL
Specific Guidelines For New Construction and Front Yard Additions
The basic principle for new construction or additions is to harmonize with the predominant
characteristics of the surrounding neighborhood. The "Old Town"residential portion of the area
is architecturally diverse with an overall pattern of compatibility and continuity. These
guidelines focus on general rather than specific design elements to encourage architectural
originality, innovation and quality design within the context of the surrounding community.
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Quality Design
Guidelines for new construction or additions encourage utilization of design elements that are
common in the area's architectural styles, especially those predominant in the area surrounding
the new construction. New structures' primary design elements should fit in with the character
of the nearby area and should be compatible in size, scale, elements and site design.
Contemporary design that fits into the overall pattern and character of a neighborhood and yet
retains its own individuality as a new structure is highly encouraged. It is this delicate balance
that makes for living and livable old neighborhoods.
Physical Placement On The Site
New construction must conform to the normal front, side and rear yard setbacks. In older
neighborhoods, where the front yard setback requirements is deeper than existing setbacks, the
average of the setbacks along the block is used instead. Side yard requirements pertain to
building height; the higher the building, the greater the side yard requirements. Current zoning
requirements make some smaller, existing lots in older neighborhoods unbuildable without
variances.
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Older neighborhoods, which often had uniform narrow lots, have a strong sense of directional
expression of the front facades. The front facades of the houses squarely face the street. New
construction will be expected to follow this facade expression. For instance, a house set back on
an angle from the street would not be permitted in a neighborhood with parallel facings.
Locating a long, narrow building on a lot and placing the main entry door on the side of the
building is also not recommended.
The uniform narrow lots also emphasize"walls of continuity" in older neighborhoods. This is
also sometimes known as the street's rhythm. There will be a horizontal or vertical building
emphasis along the street. This emphasis is usually dictated by architectural style. Placing a
low, horizontal building along a line of tall, narrow buildings breaks the continuity of the
facades. New construction should conform with these"walls of continuity"to avoid distraction
—' in the old neighborhood.
"Walls of continuity"also relate to recurrent building masses and spaces. There will be a feel of
equal spaces between buildings of similar size. New construction should not be placed in a way
that disrupts this mass to space feel.
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Relationship Of New Construction To Surrounding Structures
Features of new construction or additions should conform to the various design aspects of
existing adjacent structures. These conformances should relate to massing, height, primary roof
pitch, front porch projections, relationship of architectural details and relationship of materials.
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Massing And Height
New construction and additions should conform to the massing, volume, and height of existing
_ adjacent structures. Massing and volume is often dictated by roof shape. New construction of
two stories has different massing if the roof pitch is flat as opposed to steep. Massing will have
a direct connection to average house length, width, and roof shape.
The height of new construction should be no lower or higher than the average height of all
permitted residential buildings on both block faces. Floor to floor heights should match the
floor to floor heights of the adjacent older buildings.
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Roof Pitch
Roof pitch and roof shape should repeat other roof forms found in the neighborhood. Roof pitch
means that the new constructions should have the same general raise to run rations as others in
the neighborhood. Since some blocks have roof pitches that vary greatly due to construction
time period, roof forms should relate mostly to houses within the same block or on the facing
block. Dominant roof features, such as dormers and chimneys should approximate adjacent
buildings in form and shape also.
New additions and accessory structures should, in most cases, have a similar roof pitch to the
existing main building. Steep gabled main structures typically had gabled accessory structures
and low-pitched roof houses had compatible accessory structures.
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Porch Projections
Porches are an important visual element in nearly all historic and"old"architecture styles. Most
porches are one story high, but vary in width from full facade to simple canopies above steps.
Porches on new structures or new porches should have proportions and materials similar to
original porches in the neighborhood. Density and general shape of porch posts should also be
considered. Most newly constructed porches should not be enclosed and should have
connections to the interiors through windows and doors. Entry height levels should also be
similar to those on adjacent structures. Contemporary design can be most creative with porches
-- in terms of individuality and detailing while still retaining continuity with neighboring, existing
houses. Porches shall meet existing porch ordinance requirement which allows them to
encroach 5 feet into the required front yard setback.
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Note how the house without the porch interrupts rhythm.
Architectural Materials
Architectural materials for new construction and additions should either be the same as existing
structures or have an appearance very similar to the older houses. For instance, narrow wooden
clapboard siding laid in horizontal pattern is very typical on older buildings. New construction
that uses stone finishes is not recommended. However, using narrow, vinyl siding laid in a
horizontal pattern is acceptable because it has the appearance of traditional siding.
Siding materials on newly constructed accessory structures should match the main structure.
New accessory structures are encouraged to be simple in style and materials.
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incompatible with existing houses in old neighborhoods.
Moved Structures
Proposals to move structures into an "Old Town District"will be viewed by the same guidelines
that apply to new construction. Moved buildings should be of compatible architectural style and
sited on the property appropriately. Moving buildings is often a way to save historic buildings
while contributing to better continuity in neighborhoods with vacant lots.
Accessory Buildings
The accessory buildings found most often in the old town neighborhood is the garage. Siding
on garages should match the cover material on houses. The roof pitch of the garage should also
match the pitch of the roof of the house. Newly constructed garages should be located in the
rear of the lot,partially behind the main structure and screened in some way from street view by
landscaping if the size and shape of lot permits. Garage doors shall be made of compatible
wood materials.
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Accessory buildings should mimic
Front Yard Fences
roof pitch of main buildings.
Fences shall be constructed in accordance with the fence ordinance. However, fences in the
overlay district shall exhibit greater architectural significance. Fences appropriate for this
district are low, no taller than 42 inches, and visually open. Close, flat boards are not
recommended. The following fences are not permitted: chain link, cyclone, wood lattice or
other solid fences.
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Outdoor Mechanicals
Outdoor mechanicals such as air conditioners should be located as inconspicuously as possible.
These mechanicals should be located to the rear of the buildings, invisible from the street and
should be landscapes. Every attempt shall be made to screen mechanical equipment.
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COMMERCIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL
Specific Guidelines for New Construction and Additions
The basic principle for new construction or additions is to harmonize with the predominant
characteristics of the surrounding neighborhood. The"Old Town"nonresidential portion of the
area is architecturally diverse with some historical buildings. Some of the structures are
proposed to be demolished, rehabilitated, and enlarged. These guidelines focus on general
rather than specific design elements to encourage architectural originality, innovation and
quality design within the context of the surrounding community. It promotes design standards
that build on existing structures considered to be a strength.
Quality Design
Guidelines for new construction or additions encourage utilization of design elements that are
common in the area's architectural styles, especially those predominant in the area surrounding
the new construction. The guidelines do not wish for recreations of architectural styles. New
structures' primary design elements should fit in with the character of the nearby area and
- should be compatible in size, scale, elements and site design. Contemporary design that fits into
the overall pattern and character of an area and yet retains its own individuality as a new
structure is highly encouraged.
Physical placement on the Site
New construction must conform to the normal front, side and rear yard setbacks. In the CBD
district, structure shall conform to the setback of existing neighboring buildings. Where the
front yard setback requirements is deeper or less than existing setbacks, the average of the
setbacks along the block is used instead. Side yard requirements pertain to building height; the
higher the building, the greater the side yard requirements.
Older commercial and institutional areas, which often had uniform narrow lots, have a strong
sense of directional expression of the front facades. The front facades of the buildings squarely
_ face the street. New construction will be expected to follow this facade expression. For
instance, a building set back on an angle from the street would not be permitted in a
neighborhood with parallel facings. Locating a long, narrow building on a lot and placing the
main entry door on the side of the building is also not recommended.
The uniform narrow lots also emphasize"walls of continuity" in older commercial areas. This
is also sometimes known as the street's rhythm. There will be a horizontal or vertical building
emphasis along the street. This emphasis is usually dictated by architectural style. Placing a
low, horizontal building along a line of tall, narrow buildings breaks the continuity of the
facades. New construction should conform with these"walls of continuity"to avoid distraction
in the old neighborhood. The only exceptions to this rule are the Klingelhutz property and the
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"Pauly/Pony/Przymis" site. Any structure located on this site shall maintain a height not to
exceed the base of the roof line of"Old St. Huberts".
"Walls of continuity"also relate to recurrent building masses and spaces. There will be a feel of
equal spaces between building of similar size. Placing new construction in such a way as to
disrupt this mass to space feel is also distracting.
Relationship of New Construction to Surrounding Structures
Features of new construction or additions should conform to the various design aspects of
existing adjacent structures. These conformances should relate to massing, height, roof pitch,
— proportion of facade openings, rhythm of solids to voids, relationship of architectural details and
relationship of materials.
Massing and height
New construction and additions should conform to the massing, volume and height of existing
— adjacent structures. Massing and volume is often dictated by roof shape. New construction of
two stories has different massing if the roof pitch is flat as opposed to steep. Massing will have
a direct connection to average building length, width and roof shape. Floor to floor heights
— should match the floor to floor heights of the adjacent older buildings.
Proportion of Facade Openings
The proportion of window and door openings in the new construction and additions should be
similar to that of the existing surrounding architecture. Proportion means the relationship of the
width to the height of the window or door opening. For instance, if a window is two times taller
than it is wide (2:1), then a window with a 1:1 ratio would not convey the same visual
perspective. Window proportions on new construction should be gauged from the windows on
existing structures on the same block or from the opposite block face. This shall apply to the
Pauly/Pony/Pryzmus site only.
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Rhythm of Solid to Voids
Rhythm of solids to voids are easiest to determine in symmetrical buildings. In areas where
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symmetrical architecture is common, and where the new construction is intended to harmonize
with the surrounding buildings, the ratio of solids to voids is important. The rhythm of solids to
voids is the recurrent alternation of wall space to window space. The width of the window
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relative to the width of the wall space is important. This shall apply to the Pauly/Pony/Pryzmus
site only.
Architectural Materials
— Architectural materials for new construction and additions should either be the same as existing
structures or have an appearance very similar to the older buildings. For instance, narrow
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wooden clapboard siding laid in horizontal pattern and brick is very typical on older buildings.
New construction that uses stone finishes is not recommended.
Moved Structures
Proposals to move structures into an "Old Town District"will be viewed by the same guidelines
that apply to new construction. Moved buildings should be of compatible architectural style and
sited on the property appropriately. Moving buildings is often a way to save historic buildings
while contributing to better continuity in areas with vacant lots.
Parking Areas
Parking areas in front yards will not be allowed. Instead, they shall be located in the rear yard of
a building. These areas shall be landscaped in accordance with the landscape ordinance.
Fences
Fences shall be constructed in accordance with the fence ordinance. However, fences in the
overlay district shall exhibit greater architectural significance. Fences appropriate for this
district are low, no taller than 42 inches, and visually open. Close, flat boards are not
recommended. In addition, elaborate buildings usually had brick or ornate iron fences. The
following fences are not permitted: chain link, cyclone, wood lattice, weathered wood
(unpainted) or other solid fences. The only exceptions are those yards in St. Hubert's school
and church that do not face West 78th Street.
Outdoor Mechanicals
This section shall comply with City Ordinance.
Outdoor Furniture and Recreation Items
Outdoor furniture is encouraged.
Trees, Bushes and Ground Cover
Landscaping should be in accordance with the landscape ordinance.
Outdoor Lighting
Outdoor lighting shall be encouraged. Only ornamental shielded fixtures are permitted.
Window Elements
Window elements such as awnings and shutters are permitted. Canvas awnings shall be used
when necessary to provide solar shading. Plastic or metal awnings should not be used. Shutters
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shall not be placed in •areas not designed for them. When utilized, shutters should be large
enough to cover the entire window area, look as if they function and operate and not appear flat
mounted on the wall.
OLD TOWN DISTRICTS
I. Residential
— St. Hubertus subdivision was platted in 1887. It was platted with 53 lots. Since that time the
lots have been replatted into 39 lots. A few of the original homes, like the former Pauly
residence located at the intersection of West 78th Street and Frontier Trail, still exists. This
home was built in the early 1900s.
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The"Old Town"residential neighborhood still retains the charm of small town living. It is
characterized by neighbors who know one another, diverse in age, race, ethnic background,
religion, economic and marital status. Some of the homes date back to the early 1900s, while
others were built in the late 1900s, hence the diversity in housing styles. The homes maintain a
similar setback, one or two stories high,with recessed or detached garages and front doors
situated parallel to the streets. The majority of the homes have large mature trees. The streets in
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this area are narrow, which gives a charm to the neighborhood.
Over the years, street light fixtures have been introduced to the area. Street lights should be
decorative in style, shielded, and illuminate the streets rather than spill into the night sky.
Traffic has also increased over the years specifically along West 78th Street and Frontier Trail.
The single family housing character with congruent and age appropriate architecture should be
retained. Some of the homes require maintenance and yards need to be cleaned up.
II. St. Hubert's School and Church
— St. Hubert's School and Church have relocated to Village on the Ponds, the development south
of Highway 5. The old church and school site is 4.58 acres and contains large mature trees. The
property is zoned OI (Office/Institutional). The 2000 land use plan for this site remains OI.
— This property includes two houses that were used by the church and school. Both of these
homes have access off of Frontier Trail. There is a home located on the northeast corner of the
site that is not owned by the church and that lot is approximately 10,000 square feet. The school
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was built in the 1950s and the church was built in 1976. There is a playground along the east
portion of the property. The land itself represents the Old Town and has historic significance.
Aesthetically, mature trees lend a beauty to this block. Old St. Hubert's school is a low
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building, not an overpowering two story or tower. Chapel Hill Academy is the current user of
the site. They wish to purchase the existing building with the intention of expanding it over the
_ next 5 — 8 years. Should the expansion result in removing the homes currently owned by St.
Hubert's, it is recommended that these homes be saved and relocated rather than demolished.
The use of the site as a church/school is compatible with the surrounding neighborhood and
should be retained.
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Should Chapel Hill Academy expand the building, improvements should include providing a
stronger presence along West 78th Street, expansion be sensitive to the neighboring properties
through height and scale of the addition, and a design that does not require the removal of the
mature trees. Access to the site should be maintained via Great Plains Boulevard.
III. Schlenk Property
This property is 1.75 acres in size. The old bed of the railroad tracks was vacated and sold back
to the Schlenks. There are approximately 4 acres total. The current zoning is RSF (Residential
— Single Family). The 2000 land use plan for this site is medium density residential. The home
on this property was probably built in the 1940s. It is surrounded by open space and mature
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trees with a charming flower garden that greets those who enter the heart of the city.
Residential development that occurs on this site should be residential two-story type structures
that have front porches and detached garages to the rear,complementing the neighborhood to
the north in design. Access to the site should be designed so that it does not add to the
congestion of West 78th Street. In addition,a pedestrian bridge should be constructed over the
existing railroad tracks to provide a connection to the pedestrian bridge over Highway 5.
IV. Old St. Hubert's
This district includes the original St. Hubert's Church and the accompanying cemetery. The Old
taw St. Hubert's District embodies the history and pride of the downtown and the City. It is a
landmark with a historical reference point for the city's origin and represents center of
community.
The potential for redevelopment does not exist on this site. This district sets the design
standards for the area south of West 78`h Street.
This site is 1.74 acres in size. The underlying property is owned by the Catholic Church. The
site includes the Old St. Hubert's Church and the Catholic Cemetery. Old St. Hubert's was built
in the 1880s. The steeple on the church has become a landmark in the area. The site lines to the
steeple should be maintained. The cemetery has additional burial plots and as a use it will
always remain as a cemetery.
V. Klingelhutz Building
The parking lot for this building is owned by the City of Chanhassen. The Klingelhutz/Wilbar
building on the site is being used as an office building. The property that the building sits on is
.5 acres in area with mature trees. This building was built in 1888 by the Geiser family for a
carpentry shop. The property is zoned OI, Office Institutional and the 2000 land use plan guides
this property as commercial. If the utility of this building diminishes and another use is
proposed for the site,the building should reflect a unique historic architectural design that
complements the surrounding area to the north. The landscape surrounding the building is what
many deem significant. The integrity of the existing landscape shall be preserved.
VI. Village Hall and Pauly/Pony/Przymus
Village Hall was constructed in 1898. This area is in the most historical portion of the City.
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The building, once parallel to Hwy. 101,has been shifted to be parallel to Great Plains
Boulevard. Historical accounts indicate that a band shell was located near old Village Hall.
This building is still in good physical condition.
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The Pauly/Pony/Przymus property is owned by the HRA. The parcel is 1.15 acres in size. The
buildings have been removed and the site is currently vacant. The current zoning on the site is
_ commercial. The 2000 land use guides the property commercial. Since this property is adjacent
to the city's most historical structures, consideration needs to be given not only to the design but
also height. In no case shall a new structure be higher than the bottom of the roof line of St.
_ Hubert's Church. There has been some discussion among members of the community about
leaving this property as open space and there has been strong opposition by the majority of the
neighbors to any building on this site. Staff expressed that this point will be expressed to the
Planning Commission and City Council. This may not be the best site for the preservation of
open space, because it is a small, corner parcel . If a building is located on the site it should be a
design that complements the area and is in close proximity to the street. Also, the existing plaza
located north of Village Hall must be preserved and utilized as a community gathering area.
Uses in the district could include a small scale coffee shop/bookstore and neighborhood café.
Any new buildings should conform to the common "old town"design standard with parking
located behind the building(south side of property).
VII. Colonial Square and Country Clean
The Colonial Square building was constructed in the 1960s and is a very "traditional" strip
center. Recently, School District 112 and St. Hubert's Catholic School used the old Mason
Building portion of the center for classrooms. Currently, a dry cleaner occupies the building.
The City of Chanhassen owns the parking lot serving this building. The Chanhassen Medical
Arts Building has been looking to expand an additional building on this site. Should this
proposal take place, the design of the building should be sensitive to the design standards of
"Old Town" and complement buildings that are located in the surrounding area and not the
existing Medical Arts Building only. Interest from residents in the area has been expressed to
see quaint main street shops.
The Country Clean site has an area of 13,640 square feet and zoned Office Institutional. A site
plan has been approved to remodel the 1,600 square foot building which includes a face lift,
adding a parking lot, adding green space, a sidewalk,and additional trees along the boulevard.
VIII. Railroad Depot
This district includes the old Milwaukee Railroad Depot. According to historical accounts, the
depot was relocated to the property along Hwy. 5 sometime after World War II. It was recently
moved back to its original location by the Carver County Historical Society and is being
restored. The Milwaukee Railroad Depot is a direct link to the past of the city. Currently, the
building could be used as a railroad museum; however, in the future it could potentially be
converted into a commuter railroad depot in the future.
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IX. Dinner Theater
_ The Chanhassen Dinner Theater is a landmark. When most people think of Chanhassen, they
think of the theater. It attracts visitors from the surrounding metropolitan region. The theater
also is a very important presence in the downtown's entertainment center.
The building fits in comfortably with downtown because it maintains a similar setback as the
other buildings on West 78th Street. It is in good condition, has eclectic charm, but is
architecturally-dated. The south portion of the building has a rundown appearance. Uses in this
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area should be entertainment related and community gathering places with a pedestrian friendly
connection.
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MINUTES FROM THE "OLD TOWN"NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING
March 24, 1998, 6:00 p.m.
Sharmin Al-Jaff reviewed the direction given by the City Council and activities of the past two
meetings. She explained that the Planning Commission and City Council will review the
document and that the City Attorney will draft an ordinance.
Some of the residents indicated that they misunderstood of the purpose of the"Old Town"
Neighborhood Plan. They believed that it to guide the open parcels of land. They stated that
they had many concerns about how the report was written. Many of the residents made
comments on the document. Perhaps the most notable was that they did not understand why staff
recommended a building on the former Pauly/Pony/Pryzmus site. They stated that they did not
want a building on the site but open, green space. They do not necessarily want a park but they
strongly recommend that the site remain as open space. Staff explained that the site is zoned
CBD, Central Business District so it is a possibility that a building will be constructed on the site.
Some of the residents also expressed frustration at the lack of expansion of the northern
boundary. A few residents indicated at the first meeting the they felt that the northern boundary
should be extended to include the lots north of West 77th Street. Staff explained that the only
residential parcels involved in this plan were the original lots from the St. Hubertus Subdivision.
Al Klingelhutz mentioned that the City should add the original street names to the street signs.
Many of the residents thought that this would serve as a symbol to the neighborhood's history.
It was mentioned by the residents that they did not understand why the study purpose was to
develop design standards. They mentioned that the initial letter indicated that this plan was to
develop guidelines for the maintenance, development and redevelopment of the"Old Town."
Staff explained that the zoning ordinance dictates what type of use can be located in a particular
district. In addition, the design standards that staff prepared as a result of the resident-completed
surveys will dictate the design of new or redeveloped structures. The whole document was
prepared from resident comments from the two previous meetings. Many of the residents were
unclear as to why staff prepared the ordinance. The non-residential land owners/developers felt
that these design guidelines were overall too stringent and that they do not want to limit what
others can do with their property.
A few of the residents had questions regarding the mission statement, mainly setback issues.
Staff explained that they language would ensure that a new construction would have a similar
setback as an existing structure to maintain the street's feel. Staff stated that the language would
be changed to make it more clear.
Old Town Meeting Minutes
March 24, 1998
Page 2
Vernelle Clayton indicated that the term"historic"is used inappropriately in the document. She
stated that the Villages on the Ponds is attempting to recreate a small village and is using a
historic theme. She stated that this area does not have that"historic"feel. Staff stated that they
would remove the term"historic" from the mission statement.
Another resident indicated that the issue of traffic was not addressed in the mission statement.
Staff stated that the residents' suggestions cannot be implemented because they were to dead-end
West 78th Street and construct no new traffic control devices. Staff commented that dead-ending
the street will not lessen the traffic on West 78th Street.
The majority of the residents misunderstood the purpose and content of the document overall.
They stated that they did not expect to have such things as fences and windows dictated. Staff
explained again that these design standards will maintain the integrity of the neighborhood. Staff
•.. presented examples of the types of new development that could occur in the coming years such
as "suburban"type homes in their neighborhood. Staff mentioned Carver Beach as an example.
Staff reviewed the elements of the residential portion of the design standards. Many of the
residents felt uncomfortable recommending approval of the standards. They did not want to
recommend approval of because they will be ordinances rather than guidelines. The majority of
the residents did not understand the definition of the planning and design terms utilized in the
report. Staff explained the terms. After some discussion, staff and the residents agreed that the
design standards would be limited to massing, height,primary(front)roof pitch and front porch
projection. It was also decided that garages or accessory structures be located behind the front of
the house when the width of the lot permits. In an effort to limit the number of variances needed,
it was decided that this would only be required on a new construction rather than an existing
garage or home. The residents approved the design standards for front yard fencing and satellite
dishes when every attempt is made to screen them.
Many of the residents felt that the commercial design standards were too similar to the residential
and that some of the standards do not apply. The non-residential developers and some residents
recommended that the sites have different design standards. Staff indicated that they will revise
the design standards to reflect their concerns.
Meeting closed at 11:20 p.m.
-- OLD TOWN DISTRICTS AND SURVEY RESULTS
PART 4.
Districts
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St. Hubertus subdivision was platted in 1887. It was platted with 53 lots. Since that time the lots
have been replatted into 39 lots. A few of the original homes, like the former Pauly residence
located at the intersection of West 78th Street and Frontier Trail, still exist. This home was built
in the early 1900s.
STRENGTHS:
Group I
• Know your neighbor, care for our neighbors
• Trees/Annie's Maple!!
• No Sidewalks
• Diversity, age, age of homes, some older homes, race, ethnic background, economic, marital
status
• Religious diversity
• Variety of housing style
• Nice size lawns
• Green space
• Semaphore lights
• Gathering area at backyard mentality
• Configuration of houses with garages (unattached) forces people to get out and see each other.
Group II
Old Town Chanhassen still retains the charm of small town living. It is removed from the busy
lighted commercial district at present. We would like to be removed from the traffic and
shopping of the downtown area. We do not want any more lighting in this area. The strength is
the dark night.
WEAKNESSES
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• Too much semiphore lighting
• Traffic, large amounts of traffic along Frontier and Main Street—speed of traffic is too high
• Highway 5 noise
Group II
• Rundown properties and littered yards
• Heavy traffic on W. 78`h St. and Frontier Trail.
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What do you see as the Best outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Reduced traffic on W. 78th Street.
• No traffic on W. 78th Street.
• No high density residential or business
• Congruent and age appropriate architecture
Group II
• Clean up and retain charm
• Single family zoning ordinance retained
• Dead-end W. 78th Street
What do you see as the Worst outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Multifamily housing
• Wider streets
• Commercial development of St. Hubert's/Pauly's property
• Increased lighting
• Non-congruent architecture as new property builds and redesign of old
Group II
• Commercial encroachment and streets widened
• New lights installed
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St. Hubert's School and Church have relocated to Village on the Ponds, the development south of
Highway 5. The old church and school site is 4.58 acres. The property is zoned OI
(Office/Institutional). The 2000 land use plan for this site remains OI. This property includes two
houses that were used by the church and school. Both of these homes have access off of Frontier
Trail. There is a home located on the northeast corner of the site that is not owned by the church
and that lot is approximately 10,000 square feet. The school was built in the 1950s and the church
was built in 1976. Since the last neighborhood meeting, staff met with the current users of the
building (Chapel Hill Academy). We were informed that they wish to purchase the existing
building with the intention of expanding it over the next 5 — 8 years. We explained the current
process we are going through and encouraged them to wait until the old town study was
complete before they submit any requests. However, we also encouraged them to send any
information they wish to share with the residents of the surrounding area to staffs attention
with the understanding that we would share it with the neighbors. You will find a letter and a
plan attached to the St. Hubert's School and Church section as an informational item. Any
— comments on these plans are welcomed. A representative from the Chapel Hill Academy will
be present at the meeting.
STRENGTHS:
Group I
• Now it's quiet
• Large trees
• Large piece of property
• One owner property
• Vacated Chan View
Group II
• The charm of the three older homes on Frontier Trail
• The land itself represents the Old Town. It has historic significance. Aesthetically, mature
trees lend a beauty to this block. Old St. Hubert's school is a low building, not an overpowering
two story or tower.
WEAKNESSES
Group I
• One-owner property
• Buildings need maintenance
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• The school is not architecturally pleasing and is vacant.
• Commercial/Institutional zoning.
What do you see as the Best outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Sale of the two residential houses as residential
• Playground next to Sister Gilbert's old house
• Park for"Grandkids" somewhere in the area
• Plant nursery
• No more access to Frontier Trail
Group II
• Community oriented use such as library or school, open space, or low density residential
What do you see as the Worst outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Light industrial
• Large offices
• Lighted playground
• Nursing home/assisted living
• More access to Frontier Trail
Group II
• Commercial Development
• Gas station
• Any building over one story
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Chapel Hill Academy
17850 Duck Lake Trail
Eden Prairie, MN 55346
612/949-9014
'— February 16, 1998
Ms. Sharmin Al-Jaff,
City of Chanhassen
690 Coulter Drive
-- Chanhassen Minnesota
Re: Chapel Hill Academy/old St. Hubert's site
Dear Sharmin:
As you requested, the following is a brief overview of Chapel Hill Academy,some details of our
current operation,and some of the issues related to our desire to purchase the old St. Hubert's
Church and School site.
Chapel Hill Academy was founded 27 years ago by a small group of parents that wanted to make
a difference in their children's lives. As it states in the preamble to the Chapel Hill Academy
constitution, the school was established"to help them carry out their child-training
responsibilities in a God-pleasing manner."That sentiment is evident today in the CHA Mission
Statement: "To glorify God and assist families by providing a Christ-centered education which
inspires and enables students to pursue academic excellence and spiritual maturity"
Chapel Hill Academy is a non-denominational, non-affiliated, private Christian school for
students in kindergarten through eighth grade. The 1997-98 enrollment is 246 students from 167
families. This represents significant growth over the past 4 years.The school is currently leasing
approximately 22,000 square feet of space in two locations. The school's main campus, and home
for most of its history, is at King of Glory Luthern Church on Duck Lake Trail in Eden Prairie. In
1997 CHA moved the junior high to the old St. Hubert's school in Chanhassen. Our families live
and work in the southwest metropolitan area; about 80%are residents of Chanhassen or an
adjacent City(Chaska, Eden Prairie...)
The operation at Chapel Hill is typical of most K-8 schools with school hours from 8:30 a.m. to
3:00 p.m. Monday through Friday. The school calendar generally follows the local public schools
for start date, end date and holidays. Miscellaneous activities(music, sports, etc...)occur in the
afternoon and evening hours and on some Saturdays. The K-8 nature of the school precludes any
activities later than approximately 9:00 p.m. Recess and Physical Education classes are held
outside when appropriate.There is currently not a bus program for students—most families car
pool for daily drop off and pick up. A bussing program will likely be considered at some time in
the future. In a typical year,there are three or four all-school events or programs.
As we grow,and anticipate further growth based on the rapid development of the
Chanhassen/Chaska area,we have identified the need for an expanded facility,one which will
allow all of our students to be in one location as well as providing for the addition of new
students. The school has established a targeted maximum of 450 students in a two-track(two
classes at each grade level) K-S program. Based on our current growth rate, we expect that this
could occur within the next 5-8 years by adding one class per year.
As you are aware, Chapel Hill Academy has been negotiating with St. Hubert's Catholic
Community to purchase their old school and church building on approximately 4 acres of
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property located in the northeast quadrant of the intersection of West 78th Street and Great Plains
Boulevard. We believe that this facility will meet our needs in the near future and can possibly be
expanded to accommodate our ultimate population. A condition to our closing on the property
would be obtainment of the necessary approvals from the City of Chanhassen for the future
expansion.
Many possible alternatives exist for this expansion. Attached is a concept for expansion that adds
30-40,000 square feet to the existing structure.This concept was prepared as an exercise to
determine if the site could support the anticipated 65-75,000 total square feet within the
parameters in the City's zoning ordinances. The concept shows the removal of the two older
homes on the east side of the property and new construction to the east, but options exist which
would allow for the expansion to be southerly toward 78th Street or westerly toward Great Plains
Boulevard. The existing parking is significantly more than what is needed for a school use alone.
Some of the parking could be replaced by building or green space. All of these issues would be
worked out in the detailed design and City review processes. A likely interim space solution
would be the relocation and use of the modular classroom building currently at our Eden Prairie
campus.
We at Chapel Hill Academy are excited about the possibility of moving to the downtown
Chanhassen area. We believe that the proposed use would be very similar to that which has been
on the site for the past many years. We believe that the addition of children and families to the
downtown area will add to the richness of this already vibrant community. We are open to input
from the City staff, Council and neighbors as we finalize our negotiations and further investigate
our options for the site.
If you have any questions regarding Chapel Hill Academy or our intentions for this property,
please feel free to contact me at 938-8202 or our Principal, Mr. Dick Case at 949-9014.
Sincerely,
Chapel Hill Academy
Daniel A. Blake
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This property is 1.75 acres in size. The old bed of the Railroad tracks was vacated and sold back
to the Schlenks. There are approximately 4 acres total. The current zoning is RSF (Residential
Single Family). The 2000 land use plan for this site is medium density residential. The home on
this property was probably built in the 1940s. Residential development that occurs on this site
should be a residential two-story type structures that have front porches and detached garages to
the rear.
STRENGTHS
Group I
• Open Space
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• Quiet neighborhood
• Green space when we enter town
• One owner of property
Group II
• Buffer from railroad
• Open space
• Natural landscape
• Zoned single family
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\WEAKNESSES
Group I
• Heavy traffic
• One owner of property
Group II
• Noise from railroad
• Poor access for development could complicate traffic
• Abuts the cemetery
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What do you see as the Best outcome in 10 years?
Group I •
• Single family
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• Access to walk to the bridge over Highway 5
• Chanhassen Vineyard/Brewery
Group II
• Open space or low-density residential
• Natural grasses and gardens
• Dead end West 78th Street
What do you see as the Worst outcome in 10 years?
Group I
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This district includes the original St. Hubert's Church and the accompanying cemetery. The Old
St. Hubert's District embodies the history and pride of the downtown and the City.
The potential for redevelopment does not exist on this site. This district sets the design standards
for the area south of West 78th Street.
This site is 1.74 acres in size. The underlying property is owned by the Catholic Church. The
site includes the Old St. Hubert's building and the Catholic Cemetery. Old St. Hubert's was built
in the 1880s. The steeple on the church has become a landmark in the area. The site lines to the
steeple should be maintained. The cemetery has additional burial plots and as a use it will always
remain as a cemetery.
STRENGTHS
Group I
• Beautiful, historical reference point for the city's origin
• Cemetery has historical value
• Represents center of community
• Landmark in the town
Group II
• The church and the cemetery
• The character of the town's heritage
WEAKNESSES
Group I
• Maintenance costs
• Getting to it is difficult
Group II
• No weaknesses
What do you see as the Best outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Maintained as it is
• Maintained as a church
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• Maintained as a town meeting hall (neighborhood meeting hall)
• Village green
• Band shell
• Arts Center/Community Center
Group II
• Remains the same, the church maintained
What do you see as the Worst outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Tear it down/not maintained
• Another stop sign on West 78th Street
• Uses of it cause more traffic
Group II
• Any change would be bad
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V. Klingelhutz Building
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EXISTING USES
The parking lot for this building is owned by the City of Chanhassen. The Klingelhutz/\Vilbar
building on the site is being used as an office building. The property that the building sits on is .5
acres in area. This building was built in 1888 by the Geiser family for a carpentry shop. The
property is zoned OI, Office Institutional and the 2000 land use plan guides this property as
commercial. If the utility of this building diminishes and another use is proposed for the site, the
building should reflect a unique historic architectural design.
STRENGTHS
Group I
• Trees—big boxelders
• Compliments the surrounding area
• Good soil
Group II
• No strengths
• We need the property
WEAKNESSES
Group I
• Ugly
• Needs a lot of work
Group II
• Ugly building
What do you see as the Best outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Fire department practice
• Someone redoes it
• Expansion for cemetery
• If development occurred, the integrity of the landscaping is preserved.
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• Tear down and plant trees
What do you see as the Worst outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• That it sets the design standards for old town
• If the property is redeveloped, trees are lost
Group II
• No change or new office building
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Village Hall was constructed in 1898. This area is in the most historical portion of the City. The
building, once parallel to Hwy. 101, has been shifted to be parallel to Great Plains Boulevard.
Historical accounts indicate that a band shell was located near old Village Hall. This building is
still in good physical condition.
The Pauly/Pony//Przymus property is owned by the HRA. The parcel is 1.15 acres in size.
The buildings have been removed and the site is currently vacant. The current zoning on
the site is commercial. The 2000 land use guides the property commercial. Being this
property is adjacent to the City's most historical structures, consideration needs to be
given not only to the design but also height. There has been some discussion among
members of the community about leaving this property as open space. This may not be the
best site for the preservation of open space, because it is a small, corner parcel . If a
building is located on the site it should be a design that compliments the area and is in
close proximity to the street.
STRENGTHS
Group I
• Central meeting area
• Green space
• Attractive
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• Community meeting room
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• Highly visible area
• Gathering place
WEAKNESSES
Group I
• Access, crossing street is difficult
• Not used as much as it could be
• Placed crookedly on property
Group II
• Village hall is not at an attractive angle
• Inaccessible for pedestrians
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Group I
• Band shell
• Better access
• The building gets used
• Old town district is involved in policies about use
• Small scale coffee shop/bookstore and neighborhood café
• New buildings conform to a common "old town"design standard
• Maintain green space
• Parking would be behind (north side of property).
Group II
• Low buildings
• Access to area
What do you see as the Worst outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Disrepair to Village Hall
• Park and Ride
• Parking ramp
• Retail
• Office building
• Designs that are not congruent with "old town" design
• Big "box"user, i.e. Target
• Another bar
• Restaurant
Group II
• Development with buildings
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EXISTING USES
The Colonial Square building was constructed in the 1960s and is a very"traditional"strip
center. Recently, School District 112 and St. Hubert's Catholic School used the old Mason
Building portion of the center for classrooms. Currently, a dry cleaner occupies the building. The
City of Chanhassen owns the parking lot serving this building. The Chanhassen Medical Arts
Building has been looking to expand an additional building on this site.
The Country Clean site has an area of 13,640 square feet and zoned Office Institutional. A
site plan has been approved to remodel the 1,600 square foot building which includes a face
_. lift, adding a parking lot, adding green space and a side walk and additional trees along the
boulevard.
STRENGTHS
Group I
• Lots of possibilities
• Laundromat being there
• Country Clean property is a single owner
• Space for parking
Group II
• Part of Old Town
WEAKNESSES
Group I
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• Doesn't serve community at this time
Group II
• No comment
What do you see as the Best outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Village Green—all open
• Leave space
• Trees planted
• Medical building no higher than 1-2 stories
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• Meets design standards of historic part of town
• Specialty shops
• Low traffic offices
Group II
• Quaint main street shops
• Walkways and green areas
What do you see as the Worst outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Buildings are too big
• Doesn't meet design standards
• Not used
• Parking lots
• Fast foods, drive through
• Bank
• Gas station
• Having more shops, etc. so that traffic is increased greatly
Group II
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This district includes the old Milwaukee Road Depot. According to historical accounts, the depot
was relocated to property along Hwy. 5 sometime after World War II. It was recently moved back
to its original location by the Carver Count;, Historical Society.
STRENGTHS
Group I
• Saved it
• Old
• Attractive
Group II
• No comment
WEAKNESSES
Group I
• Can't reach it easily
What do you see as the Best outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Railroad museum
• Move closer to Village Hall/Pauly property
• Commuter-rail depot
Group II
• No comment
What do you see as the Worst outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• No change - remain where it is
Group II
• No comment
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When most people think of Chanhassen, they think of the Chanhassen Dinner Theater. This is a
dominant use downtown. The building is in good condition, but is architecturally-dated.
STRENGTHS
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• Puts Chanhassen on the map
• Landmark
• Location, recessed from the road
• Parking
• Traffic seems to be better - leave via 101 South
• Gift shops
Group II
• Attractive building
• Eclectic charm
• • Draws people to our business district
• Puts us on the map
• Potential for other uses
WEAKNESSES
Group I
• Looks trashy - especially in the back
• Shops design appears dated
• No sign restrictions
Group II
• Old
What do you see as the Best outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Recreation - Community Center
• Lumber yard - Old Style
• Restaurant
• Performing Arts Center
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Group II
• Dinner Theater remain as is
• Establish old time village
• Pedestrian friendly
What do you see as the Worst outcome in 10 years?
Group I
• Menard's or other large mega-store
• Strip mall with no design factor
• Dinner Theater goes "bust"
Group II
• K-Mart
• Strip Mall, Burger King
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NEIGHBORHOOD PROPOSAL
FOR REALIGNMENT OF WEST 78TH STREET
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