03-16-88 Agenda and PacketAGENDA
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
WEDNESDAY, I4ARCH 16, 1988, 7:30 P.M.
CHANHASSEN CITY HALL, 690 COULTER DRIVE
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b. Replat property described as parts of Lots E, I and F ofBardwell Acres into three lots (.92 acres, 1.18 acres,
and 5.53 acres).
c. Site Plan Review for a 25,920 square foot, retail center.
George Nelson Associates, Lake Riley Woods South, property zonedA-2, Agricultural Estates and located south or and adjacent to Co.Rd. 14 (Pioneer Trail), I mile east of TH 101:
a. Subdivision of 77.44 acres into sixteen single familylots (minimum lot size 2.5 acres)
b. Wetland Alteration Pernit for deveJ.opment irithin 200 feetofaClassBwetland.
Gary Carlson, It{innewashta Meadows, property zoned RSF, SingleFamily Residential and locat,ed in the northwest corner of
Church Road and TE 7:
a. Rezoning of four lots to R-4, Mixed Lord Density Residentialto permit the construction of four twin homes (8 units).
b. Subdivision of 8.5 acres (legally described as Lots 3 and4, Schmid's Acre Tracts) into 12 single family lots and 4.'
two family lots (8 units).
c. Wetland Alteration Permit to develop a subdivision within
200 feet of a Class B wetland.
Conditlonal Use Permit for food processing facilities (127,000
sq. ft.) for McGlynn Bakeries, on property zoned IOP, IndustrialOffice Park, and locaE.ed in the southwest corner of TH 5 and
Audubon Road.
BUS I NESS
Site Plan Review for Food Processing Facilities for ttlcGlynn
Bakeries, on property zoned IOP, Industrial Office Park, andlocated in the southwest corner of TH 5 and Audubon Road.
APPROVAL OE MINUTES - None
OPEN DISCUSSION
Rezoning of 7.63 acres of property from OI,Institutional to BN, Neighborhood Business.
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ADJOURNMENT * VISIT S ITES
CALL TO ORDER
PUBLIC HEARINGS
*I. HSZ Devel-opment, property located in the southwest corner of TH7 and TH 41 intersection (Part of Lots H, I, & F, Bardwell Acres):
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P.C. DATE: March 16, l98g
CASE NO: 85-7 SUB,
85-2 REZONE, 86-2 SrTE PtAN
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Site Plan Review to Approval a 25,920 s.f . Shopp
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APPLICANT:
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Don Shafer
Barrientos Engineeri
123 North 3ril St., *
HSZ Development
123 North 3rd Street, #808Minneapolis, MN 5540I
Office Institutional tDistrict
Subdivide 7.63 Acres
Rezoning Request from OI ,BN, Business Neighborhood
Preliminary Plat Request toInto Three Commercial Lots
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PRESENT ZONING:
ACREAGE:
DENSITY:
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE:
WATER AND SEIiIER:
PEYSICAL CEARAC. :
2OOO LAND USE PLAN:
OI, Office Institutional Di str i ct
7 .6 acres
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RSF;
RSF;
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general commercial shopping center
( Shorewood )single family residential
single family residential
single family residential
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Municipal services are ava ilable
Northern part of the site used to be agravel pit. Low area on the SE corner and
site contains mature vegetation.
Commercial
S'TAFF REPORT
C.C. DATE: April IJ., 1988
PROPOSAI,:
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REFERRAL AGENCIES
City Engi.neer
Minnehaha Creek watershed District
M i nnegas co
Fire Department
Building DeparEment
MnDOT
Attachment #2
Attachment #3
DNR Judy Boudreau contactedstaff and stated that she
had no comments on the
proposal .
BACKGROUND
The most recent application in 1985 was to rezone the easternhalf of the subject parcel to the then retail district which wasknown as the C-2 District. The planning Commission reconunendedapproval of the rezoning for only the southeast portion of the
Attachment #1
Attachment #4
Attachment #5
In 1968, the ceneralized Guide Plan for Chanhassen designated thesouthwest corner of the intersection of Highways 7 and 41 asService Commercial . In 1972, t'he new Zoning Ordinance designatedthis area as R-I, Single Family Residence.
Il 1982, hrhen the Comprehensive plan was adopted, the area wasdesignated as residential low density. In 1983, Mr. Reutiman
made application for a land use plan amendment from residentiallow density to commercial. This request was denied.
Attachment #7 represents a synopsis of meetings conducted by thePlanning Commission and City Council from 1983 to 19g5. Therehas been a separate packet attached to the report that containsthe City Council and Planning Commission minules for the proposalin 1985 and 1986, as well as copies of a1I petitions and 1ettersreceived to date on this proposal .
Staff was cont.acted by
Evan Green from MnlOT. Hestated that the points
expressed in their letterof May 5, 1985, remainvalid and a written follow
up will be sent shortly(Attachment #5 for 198 6letter ) . Staff met rrith
MnDOT and the developer todiscuss the access issues.
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site containing the proposed shopping center (at that time knownas LoL 5). The Commission also recorunended approval of thesubdivision request with the additional condition of adequatescreening and landscaping be provided along the edge of the com-mercial area. The City Council at the June 2, 1986, meetingdenied the rezoning request. No action was laken on the sub-division application and the item was tabled.
ANALYS I S
The proposed rezoning request and preliminary plat request isdifferent from previous plans consiilered by the City in I986.
The differences are as follows:
I. Three commercial lots are proposed instead of five.
2. As well as a right-in only from Hwy. 7, a full intersection
on lliry. 41 is proposed pending a vacation request of 64t.hStreet from the southwest corner of the subject property to
TH 41.
3. The rezoning request is for the entire parcel and not a por-tion of the property as was requested in 1986.
4. The City has changed its Zoning Ordinance to create a neigh-
borhood business district. The uses in the BN District areilifferent than the uses contained in the C-2 District pro-
posed at that t.ime.
REZONING REOUEST
In evaluating a rezoning request, the city needs to look at the
intent of the proposed district and its uses to determine r,rhether
the proposed district are compatible with the adjacent zoning and
existing land uses.
I nten t
The intent of the Business Neighborhood District is stated in the
ordinance as: "limited low intensity neighborhood retail and
service establishments to meet daily needs of residents". During
the zoning Ordinance review process, both the Planning Commission
and the city council identified a need to create this type of a
district to serve surrounding single family or surrounding
multiple family areas. The city consequently zoned another site
in the city as Business Neighborhood where the American Legion
site is located, the Q-Superette and a vacant commercial parcel
located on the north side of Lake Drive East. The city zoned
this area as Neighborhood Business given its location immediately
adjacent Eo the Hidden va1Iey subdivision (now signed as
Brookhill Development). A similar Land use pattern exists in the
dor,vntown area although not zoned BN but is zoned CBD.
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The intent statement of the district was to recognize that theneighborhood business districts would provide those commercialuses.which would provide convenience uses ( grocery, beauty shops,reEail, etc.) to service neighborhood residents in tne aria. Thesubject parcel is located in the southirest corner of an inter-mediate arterial (TH 7) and a minor arterial (TH 4I). The"neighborhood" area that this parcel would. serve would be thearea in northern chanhassen extending from powers Bourevard westalong the north side of Lake Minnewaihta. It is understood,however, that. because of the location aLong TE 7 and TH 41, it,does provide an opportunity for passing moLorists to take ia.r"n-tage of the retail services- that it provides. The subject par_ce1 rs location is essentially in the corner of a neigh6orhood.
currentry, the site is zoned or, office rnstitutional District.The intent of the or District is to provide for areas for ;publicor quasi-public non-profit uses and professional, business, andadministrative of f ices,,. The differlnce between OI and the BNDistrict is that the BN District a11ows more retail uses and isbroader in scope in conditional uses.
Use s
The BN District permits by right uses .rrhich are neighborhoodoriented: dry cleaning, self:service Laundries, dai ."r. ".n_ters, small appliance and shoe repair shops, and relail shops.By conditional use permit, the BN District arlows convenien""stores with gas pumps, automotive service stations, drive_inbanks, standard restaurants (sit down restaurants), and temporaryoutdoor display of merchand.ise for sale. One of ttre permitteauses is_a-shopping cent.er. The applicant is requestiig ipprovaffor a 25,000 square foot shopping'ienter which ;irr. be-disLussea
1"t9I: The permitted uses hive io external impacts ottrei ttrantraffic aeneration. The conditional use portion of the districtrequires additional review by the conditi6nal use standards foruses such as automotive service stations or convenience storeswith gas pumps which have more safety issues involved. Standardrest.aurants as a conditionaL use poses another impact of odorsinto the neighborhood.
The 1ot requirements and setbacks are also established to provideadequate separation between proposed uses and adjacentproperties. For example, a E0 ioot setback for both building andparking areas are required if abutt,ing a residentiar district.The maximum height of the structures ire limited to one story.The landscaping ordinance also requires additional "".".nirlbetween commercial and non-comnaaiiul ar"a..
The Business Neighborhood District differs in intensity to t.heprevious C-2 DisCrict which was requested in 19gG. Th; C_2District aE that time aIlo$red hoteis and motels as conditional
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uses and provided for installation of fast food restaurants. The
BN District is less intense in that it does not provide for fast
food restaurants nor does it provide for hotels and motels.
Again, the uses permitted by right in the district are intended
to be lo$, intensity in nature.
The proposed siEe can funcEion as a neighborhood business site.
The scale and intensity of the proposed uses are limited so that
commercial uses co-exist with adjacent properties. Staff finds
that the intent of tshe BN District and the uses permitted are
appropriate for the site. The parcel is located at a major
intersection where adequate traffic service can be provicied.
During the 19E6 consideration, the Planning Commission was con-
cerned about the ability of the City to rezone the property con-
tingent upon site plan or plat approval . In speaking with the
city Attorney, this concern can be addressed by the fact that the
city procedurally will not enact their final reading of the ordi-
nance to rezone the property until the development contract for
installation of drainage, utility, or road improvements has been
executed and the letter of credit has been submitted to the city
assuring that the proposed improvements will be constructed. An
ordinance rezoning property in the city requires two readings by
the Council according to state law. This has been Chanhassen's
standard procedure with past rezoning requests. So, for example,
if the developer was unable to consummate the development
contract or provide financial securiEy, the city would not acE on
the final reading of the ordinance lo rezone the property to the
BN Di slrict.
RECOI4ME NDAT ION
Planning staff recommends the Planning Commission adopt the
following motion:
"The Planning Commission recommends approval of the Rezoning
Request *85-2 to rezone ?.63 acres from OI, Office Institutional
to BN, Business Neighborhood District as 1ega11y ilescribed in the
proposed plat application. "
NOTE: If the Planning Commission should recom.mended denial
the rezoning request, the applications for preliminary plat
site plan do not need to be acted upon.
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PRELIMINARY PLAT
The applicant is
commercial lots
The lots exceedthe BN District.
proposing atotaling .92the minimum
preliminary plat to create threeacres, 1.8 acres, and 5.53 acres.Iot area and frontage requirements in
Traffic AnaI ysas
The access to the subject parcel differs from the 19g6 applica-tion. Although the right-in only from TH 7 is the sam" a! thatwhich was proposed in the 1986 application, the access from TH 4Iis proposed as a fuII movement inlersection. In meetings withthe developer and MnDOT, it was llnDOT, s position that srlch anaccess wourd have to be located at least 600 feet south of the TH7 and TH 4l intersection. Further, they stated that the 60 footstreet entrance had to be vacated if such a full access was pro-posed. MnDOT would accept two ,,T inLersections", Chaska Road andthe entrance to the commercial center, recognizing the low traf-fic vorumes on chaska Road and the staggerei inteisections wouldprohibit crossing traffic across TH 41: City staff advised theapplicant Ehat if 64th Street is closed, it ahould be realignedfurther to the south so that tsraffic in the area would not 6ver-burden Oriole Avenue intersection on TH 7. Further, reaiignmentof 54th Street further to Ehe south would permit traffic t5 9osouthbound on TH 41.
In pursuing options for realignment, the applicant looked at anumber of alternatives. The attached plan!- depict two alter_natives. One alternative follows the ixisting Oriole ev"nueright-of-way and then proceeds east along the lot line of GaryReedrs and Ben Gowanrs property. The otier ar.ternative proposes64th Street to meander.through the Gary Reed property. i,..iiningto be resolved with this option is the interslct-ion iocation ofrealigned 64th Street. Given the existing driveway location ofthe school and the location of Chaska Road, the reiligned 64thstreet must enter TH 41 in conformance with MnDofls r6gulations.The applicants have submitted a vacation petition to vicaie G4thstreet. rt is city staffrs recommendation that before the vaca-tron is permitted and before building can occur on the site, aplat must. be approved.and a developm6nt contract signed whichensures the construction of a realigned 64th Streetl
State 1aw requires that the City Council conduct a public hearingfor street vacation reguests. ine planning commission ."y'.o,o-ment on the appropriateness of this requesi given that thi vaca_tion request is crucial to the implemeritatioi of the proposedproject.
The proposed traffic pattern attempts t.o address the traffic con-cerns Ehat rdere expressed by the neighborhood in the previousproposal. The 1986 application proposed an intersection onto
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64th Street. Concern was raised that traffic from the develop-
ment woul-d double back through the neighborhood to go vrest on TH7. The current application removes that possibility by creatinga fu1l entrance onlo TH 41 and realigning 64th Street to anotherlocalion. No access could be gained from the realigned 64thStreet. This also addresses a concern from the neighborhood
about "creeping commercialism" occurring westi.rard alonq TH 7.
The proposed traffic pattern would confine and isolate the com-mercial area to the immediate vicinity of the intersection.
The applicant has also indicated that while the right-in only
from TH 7 would be constructed, work could be done to create a
Ieft turn lane on TH 7 into Oriole Avenue.
TH 7 Corrdior Study
The City of Chanhassen, along wiEh Minnetonka, Shorewood,
Excelsior, Deephaven, Greenwood, the Metropolitan Council and
MnDOT, participated in the TE 7 Corridor Study which was prepared
by BRw, Inc. TH 7 was evaluated in Chanhassen from the intersec-
tion with TH 41 west to tshe city's limits. The TH 41 intersec-
tion was one study area antl the remaining TH 7 corridor was
another study area. As to the intersection, the recommended
alternative by the consultant h,as to provide for a right-in only
from TH 7 and a right-in only from TH 4L with an access to 64th
Street. This alternative reflects the 1986 development applica-
tion. The TH 7 study also recommended that the Oriole Avenue
intersection remain open. Therefore, the proposed application is
taking a sgep beyond what had been evaluated by the corridor
study and looks at a broader area for neighborhood traffic. The
remaining study area along TH 7 recommended that access points
along the south side in Chanhassen should be evaluated for clo-
sure and consolidation. Neighborhood residents were invited to
the public hearings conducted through this process and the ciLy
conducted a neighborhood meeting regaraling the plan in August of
1986. Attachment #8 represents the text from the report
regarding the recommendation for implementation in Ehis area.
neiraining to be resolved for TH 7 is whether or not it should be
upgraded to a five lane section with a center left turn lane or
ii-access points should be upgraded and consolidated.
There is no conflict between the TH 7 Corridor Study and the
proposed traffic pattern contained in this application.. In fact,
Lhe-propos"d traffic pattern attempis to aaldress the neighborhood
concerni and also address free flow traffic issues into and out
of the subject neighborhood.
Gradinq,Utilities and Drainaqe
The Assistant city Engineer addresses these issues in his
memorandum (Attachment #1) .
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Park and Recreation Commission
The Park and Recreation Commission recommended reservation of atrail easement along tH 41. Adequate right-of-way exists in TH4I to acconmodate a trai1. The Commission was also interested inpursuing an access to the Herman Field Park if an alternatestreet pattern is proposed for the area.
RECOMII{ENDATION
Planning staff recommends the Planning Commission adopt lhefollowing motion:
nThe Planning Commission recomnends approval Subdivision Request*85-7 subject to the plat stamped "neceived March 7, 19g8", thegrading and drainage plan stampeal ,,Received March 7, 1988", andthe utility plan stamped nReceived llarch 7, 1988" and subject tothe foLlowing conditions:
1. Approval of the preJ.iminary plat and site plan shall be con-tingent upon vacation of west G4th Street iight-of-way,including execution of a development contraci and filinq of alette! of credit to insure conslruction of a realigned 64thStreet.
2. The applicant shall enter into a development contract withthe City and provide the necessary financial suret.ies toguarantee the proper installation of the public improvements.
3. The developer shall obtain and comply with all conditions ofthe Watershed District permi t.
4. Hay bales sha1I be placed and staked around all storm sewerinlets.
5. Wood fiber bl,anket or eguivalent sha1l be used to stabilizea1l disturbed slopes greater than 3:I.
5. The applicant sha11 obtain and compty with a1I conditions ofthe permits from the !{innesota Department of Transportationand office of the Carver County Engineer.
7. Calculations verifying adequate pressure conditions for thesprinkler system of the proposed retail building should besubmitted for approval by the City Engineer pri5r to theissuance of a building permit.
8. The proposed sanitary sewer and watermain systems internal tothe site will be constructed and maintained as private utili_ties. The City of Chanhassen will not be respoi.rsible for anymaintenance of the utilities (with the exception of pubiicstorm sewer drainage facilities) int.ernal to tne sitL.
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9. An acceptable sign and pavement marking
mitted to the City Engineer prior to the
building permit.
I0. The applicant shall agree to enter into
project with the City which wiIl involve
catch basin on the proposeil storm sewer
previously in this report.
plan shall
issuance
be sub-ofa
a joint storm serder
lhe addition of aplan as mentioned
I1. Specific plans and specifications which address the
alignment, installation, and erosion control for the
storm sewer system must be subnitted and approved by
Engineer prior to lhe issuance of a building permit-
specif ic
-oroposedthe City
basins.
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County
any
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Catch basins shall be constructed as sump type catch
The applicant shal1 submit a revised erosion control
subject to the approval of the City Engineer.
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I5. Access permi ts
Engineer will
grading. "
Plans which address the demolition of the roadway of west
64th Street and restoration of the right-of-way be submitted
for approval by the City Engineer prior to the final plat
review process.
from the MnDOT and Office of the Carver
be required prior to the commencement of
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SITE PLAN REVIEW
The applicant is proposing construction of a 25,920 square footretail center. If the rezoning request is approved as well asthe preliminary plat, tshe Planning Commission and City Council
can consider site plan approval for the proposed shopping center.
The shopping center is a listed permitted use in the BN District.Also indicated on the plan is a second building labeled as
accessory retail. The Zoning Ordinance requires that. if twoprincipal buildings are contained in one lot a conditional usepermit must be processed.. Because the future use of the .;econdbuilding is not known, the additional building was placed on tshesite plan as a future possibility. It should be noled that the
Commission and Council's action would be solely to approve the
shopping center. Another conditional use permit applicationshould be processed for the construction of the second building.
It should be noted that typically, a buildinq is located on its
own individualJ.y described parcel. If the second building wereto be under separate ownership, a separate lot lrould have to becreated for it.. As proposed, the plats is only creating threelots and not a Iot for Ehis second building. If the applicantwishes to convey ownership of the second building, another Lot
would have to be created. However, a 1ot around the secondbuilding wouJ.d require a lot frontage variance because it doesnot abut a public street. As proposed, the plat would have to berevised to expand Outlot A to contain this building. Given thatthe applicant has not indicated the future intention of thisbuilding, approval again is only limited to the construction of aretail center.
The applicant has also indicated a restaurant in the tabular dataon the siEe glan. Although no specific tenant has been signedfor a restaurant use, the applicant has indicated this as apotential use. Standard restaurants in the BN District are aconditional use. If a standard. restaurant would occupy theretail center a conditional use permit would have t.o be filed.
Traffic Circulation
The progosed parking area provides adequate circulation in andaround the proposed retail center providing for good fire accessand on site circulation. The parking spaces provided meet theordinance requirement.s. The City Engineer notes that because ofthe right.-in only from flwy. 7 and the full intersection from TH4I, a detailed signage and striping plan should be submitted tostaff prior to building permit approval to properly guide trafficin and out of the site.
Landscaping
The appl i cantrevised their
has responded to
landscaping plan
city staff corunents and have
which is included in this packet.
The plan addresses the required 6 foot screen needed along thewestern and southern boundary of the property. The applicantshave also indicatetl the correct amount of hedge and tiee plantingsalong TtI 4I. The proposed plan meets the interior landscipingrequirements as adequate area is being provided with the creationof medians anil parking lot islands. The parking lot islands alsohelp to better define the parking areas and provide guidance forsnow plowing.
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The applicant is proposing creation of berms along the western,southern and eastern portion of the property. The intent of theberm in the southeast corner of the property is to begin asubstantial screen for northbound traffic on TH 4I. Also pro-posed are the installation of 12 foot Scotch pines. Given theheight and the ultimate width that these pines will provide, thiswill adequately screen the truck and loading area in the rear ofthe shopping center. The 6 foot screen along the western andsouthern edges of the parking areas are required by ordinance.The applicant is also proposing a series of littte leaf lindensalong the right-in only entrance from TH 7. This will provide acanopy effect as one enters the site.
A11 existing vegetation on the site will be removeC. Theexisting stand does contain dead elms and box elder species,which are not. contributing Co the vitality of the stand. Giventhe complete reconfiguration of the site, the proposed
landscaping will provide adeguale screening and create an asethe-tic appearance.
S iqqage
The BN District permits the installation of ground low profile
signs only. Signage is proposed at the main entrance at TH 41.
Maximum area of the sign cannot exceed 24 square feet. A signpermit must be processed before installation of the sign (py1on
signs are not permitted in the BN District).
Lightinq
The applicant has submitted a lighting plan which details thelocation of the light standards, their appearance and the amountof area coverage proposed. Given the location of the site near aresidential neighborhood, proper lighting is essential . However,
adequate security must be provided for patrons in t.he shopping
area. Proposed on tshe light standards are "cut-offs" whichdirect the light strictly on the parking lot area and to preventglare from shining directly onto adjacent properties. Althoughproperty owners to the west and. the south of the site will pro-
bably be able to see light on the site, there will be no directglare from the proposed lighting standards. The proposedlighting will be of a different style and lower intensily thanthat which currently exists on the shopping center on the northside of TH 7.
The proposed building i.s to be constructed of rock face concreteblock with modular brick facing. The roofing detail will ade-quately screen rooftop electrical equipment. The applicant wiIlprovide a colored rendering at the meeting.
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Utilities
The applicants have responded to city staffts initial commentsregarding placement of fire hydrants and looping of the vrater-mains. The plan stamped "Received Uarch 7, I988" accomrnodatesthe Fire Inspectorrs concerns. As a commercial building, thebuilding will be required by ordinance to be sprinklered.
Buildinq Elevations
RECOM}.TENDAT I ON
Planning staff recommends thefollowing motion:
Planning Commission adopt the
A11 bituminous areas sha11 be lined with concrete curb.
The building permit for the retail center will not be issueduntil the city has approved the vacation of G4th Street,including submission of financial sureties, and execution ofthe development contract to insure tshat 64th Street will berealigned to intersect TH 41 in another location.
Compliance with atI conditions of the Subdivision
* 85-7.Reques t
ATTACHMENTS
nThe-Planning Commission recommends approval of Site plan Review*85fl- for construction of a 25 1920 square foot retail center asdepicted on the site plan stamped ',Received March 7, 1988,,, thelandscaping plan stamped "Received Ftarch 11, 1988", the lightingplan stamped "Received l,larch 11, 1988", the exterior elevationplan stamped "Received February 22, L988", and the grading,drainage and utility plans st.amped ,,Received March 7, 199g" andsubject to the following conditions:
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Memo from Asst. City Engineer dat.ed March lI, I9gg.Letter from Kevin Larson dated February 29, 19g9.Letter from Minnegasco dated !,tarch 3, 1999.
Memo from Steve Madden dated March l, 19g9.
Memo from Inspections Department dated March 3, 19gg.Letter from MnDOT dated May, 1986.Synopsis of meetings.
TH 7 Corridor Study excerpt.
1972 Zoning Ordinance.
Memo from Lori Sietsema dated March 10, t9gg.
Shorewood City Map.Citizen comments.
City Council and planning Commission minutes l9g5_I9g7.Plat and site p1ans.
CITY OF
EHANHISSEN
690 COULTER ORIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
ME}lORANDUM
TO:
FROM:
DATE :
SUBJ:
Planning Commiss ion
Larry Brown, Staff Engineer
March 9, 1988
Prell,minary PIat and Site Plan Review for HSz Development
Planning FiIe No. 85-7 Subd. , 86-2 site Plan
Sanitary Sewer
water service for the site will be adequately
proposed 6-inch diameter loop system as shown
plans.
supplied by the
on the utilitY
The applicantrs engineer has been advised that a pressure reducer
exists on 54th Street east of the proposecl watermain connection
on the southeast corner of the site. The existing pressure at
the site is approximately 50 psi. Calculations verifying ade-
quate pressurL- conditions for the sprinkler system shoul'l-be sub-
,iitt.a'for approval by the City Engineer prior to the builtling
permit process.
The proposed sanitary sewer ancl water sysEems provide service
only to the subject site and therefore will be constructed and
mai-ntained as a private service. The city of Chanhassen should
not be responsible for any maintenance of the utilities (with
exception of public storm sewer drainage facilities) internal to
the site.
flnrrfuerr* /
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This 7.5 acre site is lccated at tshe southwest corner of Trunk
Highway 7 and Trunk Highway 41. This site is composed of both
low-lying areas located along the east Property boundary and the
southeast corner and steep berms with mature vegetation along the
south and west property boundaries.
Municipal sanitary sewer is available to the site by an existing
8-inch diameter sanitary sewer which runs along 64th Street. The
utitity plans propose that two 8-inch diameter sewer mains be
constructed to service the proposed retail center and future
expansions of outlots A and B, should the need occur.
Wate rma i n
Planning Commiss ion
March 9, 1988
Page 2
Roadway and Traffic
The site plan access is based on a main access onEo Trunk Highway41 as weII as consE.ruction and right in exit,/entrance ramp for
ieesEbound traffic on Trunk Highway 7 and a decelera Lion,/turn lanefor a right in movement from southbound Trunk Highway 41 traffic.
An acceptable sign and pavement marking plan should be submitteilto Che City Engineer prior to the building permit process.
Current traffic voLumes during peak p.m. volumes near the pro-posed intersection (as suppJ.ied by the Minnesota Department ofTransportation) do not warrant. the installation of a stop lightat the proposed interseclion given Ehe anticipated commeicialuses.
The Minnesota Department of Transportation gave their verbalapproval of t.he proposed site plan layout. They also indicatedthat neither the current nor projected traffic volumes for thesite would warrant the installation of a st.op light given theanticipated comrnercj.aL uses. WriE.ten final ipproval was pendingconclusions from the hydraulics department.
PLans and specifications regarding the construction of the road-way.and parking lot should be submitted for approval by the CityEngineer prior to a final plat review.
G radi ng
The grading plan proposes that the 1ow-Iying area at thesoutheast corner be filled in. The p]an alio cal1s for gradingof the berm located along the south iide of the site to i 2:i.slope. Wood fiber blankets or eguivalent shall be reguired onall disturbed slopes greater t.ha; 3:I to be in accordince withthe WatersheC District's guidelines.
The applicant has also provided forsite on the northeast corner of theloped runoff raEe as well as provide100-year frequency storm evenl.
tshe construction of a pondingsite to maintain the predeve-
adequate storage for a
The proposed grading for the site exLends into 64th street right-of-way and is contingent upon the vacation process of west 64thStreet. Restoration of Ehe right-of-way should include theconstruction of a drainage sware along west G4th street to helpchannelize the storm water runoff whi;h exit the proposed parking1ot at t.he southeast corner of the site. this ctrann;l sno-ulaextend from the proposed outlet to catch basin E as shown on thegrading p1an. Plans !{hich address the demolition of West 54thstreet roadway and restoration of the right-of-way should be sub-nitted for approval by the City Engineer prior to the final platreview.
Planning
March 9,
Page 3
Commiss ion
1988
Drainaqe and Erosion Control
Presently runoff from all properties in this area drainto Ehe west end of 54th Streets and ultimately to Lake
Minnewashta. A long history of drainage problems exists
area due to the lack of a storm sevrer system to colLecttransport the runoff.
ove r land
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The proposed storm sewer system add.resses these problems by pro-
viding Ewo catch basins along 64th Street. It is recommendedthat the City participate in a joint storm serder effort by adding
another catch basin as per Attachment *3. The additional catch
basin will relieve the surrounding 1ow-lying areas of a long t.erm
drainage and ponding problem. The proposed alignment of the por-
tion of storm selrer south of the intersection of 64th Street andOriole Avenue follows the existing <irainage way vrhich was accom-
modated in the feasibility study for Herman Park.
The proposed ponding and storm sewer system maintained the prede-
velopeal runoff rate as well as provide adequate storage for a
100-year frequency storm event. Such a plan meets standard City
and Watershed District policy and addresses the legal requirements
of an upstream land ohrner.
Since the proposed ponding site is upstream of parking lot and
64th Street catch basins, it is recommended Lhat the catch basins
be constructed as sump catch basins to aid in the sedimentation
process. A do$rnstream ponding site at Herman Field was con-
sidered, however, was rejected due to the proximity of available
ponding locations versus the locations of the suggested play
areas for small children. Plans and specifications which address
the specific alignment, instal-lation and erosion control for the
proposed storm sewer system, should be submitted for approval by
the City Engineer prior to t.he final plat review.
Recommended Conditions
1 Approval of the preliminary plat and site plan shall be con-
tingent upon vacation of West 64th Street rights-of-way,
including execution of a development contract and filing of a
Ietter oi credit to insure construction of a realigned 64th
S treet .
2. The applicant sha1I enter into a development contract with
the City and provide the necessary financial sureties to
guarantee the proper installation of Ehe public improvements.
3. The developer sha1l obtain and comply with aII conditions of
the watershed District permit.
4 Hay bales shaIl be placed and staked around aLl storm sewer
inlets.
Wood fiber blanket or equivalents sha1l be usecl to stabilize
all disturbeil slopes greater than 3:1.
Planning
March 9,
Page 4
Commi s s ion
1988
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10. The applicant shall agree to enter into
project with the City which will involve
catch basin on the proposed storm sewer
previously in this report.
11.
The applicant shal1 obtain and comply with
the permits from the Minnesota Department
and office of the carver county Engineer.
Calculations verifying adeguate pressure conilitions for
sprinkler system of the proposed retail building should
sibmitted for approval by the city Engineer prior to Ehe
issuance of a building Permit.
The proposed sanitary sewer and watermain systems. internal- to
tne iitl hri11 be conitructed and maintained as private utili-
ties. The City of Chanhassen will not be responsible for any
maintenance of the utilities (wilh the exception of public
storm sewer drainage facilities) internal to the site'
An acceptable sign and pavement marking plan shall be sub-
mitted Lo the Ciiy Engineer prior to Ehe issuance of a
building permic.
all conditions of
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plan as mentionetl
Specific plans and specifications which address the
alignment, installation, and erosion control for the
stoim sewer system must be submitteal and approved by
Engineer prior to the issuance of a building permit.
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Catch basins shall be construcEed as sump type catch basins.
The applicant sha11 submit a revised erosion control plan
subject to the approval of the City Engineer.
Plans which address the demolition of the roadway of west
64th Street and restoration of the right-of-way be submitted
for approvat by the City Engineer prior to the final plat
review process.
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l-5. Access permits from the MnDoT and Office of the Carver
Engineer will be required prior to the commencement of
grading.
Planning
March 9,
Page 5
Commission
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AttachmenEs:I. Location Map2. Additional Storm
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3. Pressure Reducer
Sewer and Storm Sewer Layout/
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P.O. Box 387, Wayzata, Minnesota 55391
804n0 0F I{lmGEnS Camille D. Andre. ftes. . Albert L. Lehman . John E. l}omas
James R. Spensley . Rjchard f,- Miller . Rob€n D. Erickson . C. U/oodrow Love
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February 29, 19BB
Ms. Barbara Dacy, Pl anner
Ci ty of Chan has sen
P0 Box 147
Chanhassen, Mi nnesota 55317
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.feel free to contact ne at 473-4224.
Si ncerel y ,
EUGENE A. HICKOK AND ASSOCIATES
If you have any quest'ions, please
Englneers fo
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Kevi n C. Larson, Engineer
Board
L. Smith
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MAR 1 19BB
.CITY OF CHANhASSEI--trrfr'tflruH
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Re: Minnewashta Meadows, HSZ Development
Dear Ms. Dacy:
!{e have received the informatjon you forwarded concerning the above-referencedprojects in Chanhassen.
The developments appear feasible and will require a permit review and approvalby the Board of Managers of the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District.
Some of the District's concerns in deve'lopment of this type include that:
1. The rate of stormwater runoff from the site shall not increase as a resultof the proposed development. This cri teria shall be analyzed and met forrunoff producing events with return frequencies from one to 100 years.
2. The quality of stormwater runoff 'leaving the s.ite after development shallbe equivalent to runoff quality for the-existing condition. fhiscrjteria shall be analyzed and met for runoff pioducing events with areturn frequency of one year.
3. Appropriate erosion control methods are in p1 ace to prevent the transportof sediments off sjte during and after consiruction.'
4. Prompt restoration of the di sturbed area be completed rvith seed and mulchor sod.
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A Company of Diversified Energies, Inc
March 3, 1988
Ms. Barbara Dacy
Clty Planner
590 Coulter Drive
P.0. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 5 5317
Dear Ms- Dacv:
Attached are the plans for HSZ Developnent showlng the location of our exlstlng
gas maln ln that portion of 64th Street I'lest proposed to be vacated.
Since thls gas maln ls an lmportant part of our dlstrlbutlon systen, we must
object to this proposed vacatlon unless suitable easeDent rights are reserved
Minnegasco, Inc. over the South Il2 of 64th Street West proposed to be vacated,
Pursuant to MSA 160.29.
If the petltloner wlshes to have the llne relocated, Uinnegasco rdl1 requlre
reimburseEent to cover the costs. Please contact Rick Pilon, Supervising Engl-
neer, at 342-5426 1f relocation is requlred.
I appreclate your advance notlce, and please keep oe informed otr thls matter.
Slncerely,
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Steven Von Bargen
Real Estate Speclallst
Mlnnegasco, Inc,
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Dave Henningsgaard
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CIIY OF Crrnrr rrASserrr
?00 West Linden Avenue
Minneapolis, MN 55403
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March 4, 1988
Ms. Barbara Dacy
Clty Planner
590 Coulter Drive
P.0. Box I47
Chanhassen, l..IN 55317
Re: HSZ Development - Located in the Southwest Corner of T.H. 7 and T.H, 41
Dear Ms. Dacv:
Enclosed are the prints for the above-referenced project, f,rlth our facllities
shown in red (see sheer Ul). These locatlons are approxirnate and Eust not be
used for construction purposes. To have our facilities field-1ocated, pleasecaLl 342-5200 twenty-four hours in advance of desired date for narklng. Alsoenclosed ls a letter froo Steven Von Bargen, Real Estate Specialist, regardingthe 64th Street right-of-way vacation and how it will affect Minnegasco.
Also shown on sheet ul is a 12" steer main running parallel with rrunk Eighway41. Ihls main operates at an extremely high pressure; please advlse your con-tractor to proceed with extreEe caution hrhen excavating or rorking around thlsgas Eain.
Please send ne a set of your flnal plans so that rre may deter,ine our involve-
ment .
Sincerely,
Dave Henningsgaard
Design Engineer
Engineering Services
P. O. Box 1165
Minneapolis, MN 55440- 1165
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700 West Linden Avenue
Minneapolis, MN 55403
A Company of Diversified Energies, Inc.
CITY OF
EHINHISSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE . P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
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TO: Badcara Dacy, City pIaff)er
IRCM: Steve l\4adden, Fire fnspector
DNIE: March 1,1988
Subject: 85-7 S'UB, 86-2 SIIE PLAN
TII 41 and II{7
(HSZ De\reloFnent)
tfuor revierv of the site plan for tJlis prcpere', I r:eccnnendtte fo11or:ing:
l) rvo hydrants stall be placed as marked on plan.
Ilnifo::n Eitle Code,Sec. 10. r0I (c)
If you ha\,e any questions, ask.
c.c. Scott Harr
Jim Chaffee
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TO: Barbara Dacy, City Planner
FROM: Inspections Department
DATE: March 3, 1988
690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
CITY OF
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SUBJ: Planning Case: 85-7 SUB, 86-2 Site Plan
HSZ Development
The Site Plan you submittetl for HSZ Development has beenreviewed. Please give the architect a Code Review Outline. Thisshould be filled out and submitted at E.he time of rhe preliminaryplan review. We will require a complete set of plans to conducta preliminary plan reviewi two weeks should be allovred for this.A Cornmercral Building Permit Requirement Sheet should also begiven to the architect and contractor.
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Barbara Dacy, City planner
City of Chanhassen
CorEnunity Development Department
690 Coulter Drive
P. O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Re:
Dear Barb:
We have reviewed the
lorring conments:
s. P. 1oO4 T.H.7
1008 T.H.41
Proposed Minner.rashca Gate Iocated in theSouthwest Quadrant of T.H.7 and T.H.41 inCicy of Chanhassen
above referenced preliminary plat and have Ehe fol_
- We are in general agreement with the proposed preliminary plandated ApriI, 1986. This plan proposes that one_way enErancesfrorn Ehe highways be allowed at two locations. One from high_way 7 located approximately 43O' + lrest of the northea"t .oi.r",of proposed Loc 4. The other one-wouId be from T.H.41 approxi_mately 210r+ south of the northeast corner of proposed Lot 4.
We are in agreement Lrith this if all other direcE access poinEsto T.H.7 and T.H.41 are closed. The procedure for changing theaccess points would take about four months from the time ii lsrequested.
- EnErance permits for the access points must be applied for andapproved before any work may begin on rhe highway right_of_way.The specific design of the entrance can be finalized at rhattime.
- Special design considerat.ions and good signing will have ro beincluded for Che righc turn off entrances where they join withthe 2-way sireeE so as to discourage r.rrong r,ray moves. The I anefor che right turn off of the highway should be aligned so rha!it is completely to che left side of the 2-way street centerl.ine.See attached drawings.
CITY OT CHANHASSEN
RECEIVED
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CHAI{HNSEIt PrAnr{tf{e 9EPT,
May 5, 1986
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May 5,1986
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- Additional time is needed for review of the proposed drainagesysten. Any significant comnents in regard to this will betransmitted at a larer date. If you have any specifi.c ques_Eions about our review of the proposed drainage syscern, pleasecontact our District Hydraulics Engineer, Ms. Ellen Gavlinskiat 593-8504.
If you have any questions in regard Eo this review, please feel free toconeact ne.
S incere ly ,
Zi**Z /"--Evan R. Green
Proj ecc Manager
cc: Todd H. Thompson - Tomac Development, Inc.
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SYNOPSIS OF MEETINGS
On June 8, 1983, the Planning Commission considered an application to
amend the Comprehensive PIan from Low Density Residential to
Commerical for a 4.5 acre nT-shaped" parcel. Uany residents in theneighborhood opposed the application stating they would not agree toall conrmercial , but rpould consider a commercial use buffered by Mediumto High Density Residential Development. The Planning Commission rasconcerned about the application because the Commission did not feel itwas improving the neighborhood and it did not provide for appropriatetransition in land use for the adjoining property oleners. ThePlanning Commission recommended to table the item until staff providedadditional information on uses in the surrounding area.
The natter was again considered on June 22t L983. Planning staff pro-vided the Commission with information on zoning and land use plansfrom Shorerrood and Excelsior. The subject site was one of three areasdiscussed for possible changes in land use. The Commission recom-
mended denial to categorize the parcel as commercial.
On JuIy 11 , 1983, the City Council considered the application. TheCouncil denied the request stating that the commercial use was too
extreme of a change and the Comprehensive Plan should be fol1owed.
On tr{arch 13, 1985, the Planning Connission considered the Sketih plan
application. The Commission recommended that the area north and eastof the proposed roadway be rezoned to C-2 and the area to the southand west of the proposed roadway be rezoned to C-l . The Commission
a.Lso instructed the applicant to meet with the surrounding property
owners before reappearing in front of the Commission for a public
hearing.
The City Counci.l considered the Sketch PIan request on April 1, 1985.
The Council reiterated the necessity to meet with the public beforeapplication and was concerned with the traffic and land use impacts.
Some Council members felt that medium to high density residential
development was more appropriate at that location.
On April 17, 1985, the applicants conducted a meeting at the City Hallfrom 7:00 to 10:00 p.m. regarding the proposal. Of primary concern tothe 20-25 people that were present, were the land use impacts and thetraffic concerns. As a result of the meeting, the applicantsredrafted the proposed traffic alignment in the northwest portion ofthe site.
On April 24. L985 the Planning Comnission tabled the I^and Use plan
Amendment, Rezoning, and Preliminary Plat requests until written com-ments from MnDOT could be obtained and the applicant would be able tosubmit a buffering plan. Staff was also directed to prepare a landuse analysis of adjacent properties.
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eastbound TH 7 difficult to make. Again the closure ofdirect property access to TH 7 would hive negative impactson several cormercial properties. A second a'lignment for CR
19 was considered to improve the skewed jnterseition with TH7, but this al ignment involved considerable additional cost,impacted a wetland and resulted in only a minor improvemenl'in the geometrics of the intersection with TH 7. Th.isalternative would also reduce access to the resident.ial areaalong Academy Avenue north of TH 7.
Recormendation for Excelsior Area l/est
Alternatives 2 and 3 cane out very close in the evaluat,ion.Alternative 2 is recommended because Alternative 3 wouldcreate an unsafe intersection ',r i th TH 7 and provide lessaccessibjlity for the residentjal area along Academy Avenuenorth of TH 7. This alternative wouid el iminate one full
movement intersection on TH 7 and improve the geometrics ofthe remaining intersectjon. It is anticipated that oniy the'intersection of CR 19 would need to be signalized. However,future development in Chanhassen may eventually warrant itraffjc signal at the Ga)pin Lake Road intersection with TH7. If the location of the two closely spaced signalizedintersections does become a problem in the future it would
be possible to realign CR 19 over to llater Street north of
TH 7 and elminate the signal at the CR 19 intersection with
TH 7.
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The alternatives for the TH 41 area and the Lake Minnewashta
area focused on two issues. First, how access to TH 7 could
be consoljdated jn thjs area and secondly how to upgradethe remaining access points. The alternatjves are shown on
Fi gures 30 through 34. Most of the access consol idatjon
occurs on the south sjde of TH 7 in the City of Chanhassen.In meetings ririth homeowners and resjdents a general concen-
sus was reached on a plan which would consolidate access jn
the TH 41 and Lake l4innewashta areas. A frontage road bet-
ween Elm Tree and Oogwood Avenue is shown; constructjon ofthis road would be a local decision.
The major issue yet to be resolved is whether the remaining
access points should be upgraded at isolated locations or
whether a five lane section with center Ieft-turn lane would
be better. Both a'lternatives could be implemented withinthe ex'i sting right-of-way and wou'ld have similar impacts
relative to access and effects on existing commercial and
residential areas. The major difference between the alter-
natives is the cost (a five lane section would be almost
twice as costly) and the capacjty, and safety on TH 7.
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lane sectjon would provide adequate capacity and improve thesafety on TH 7. Therefore, the five lane section is the
recommended alternative for this area of TH 7.
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The Cities of Chanhassen and Shorewood and Mn/D0T should
coordinate access based on the access consolidation shown inAlternative 2 in the TH 41 area and Alternative 2 in the
Lake l4innewashta area. Access on the north and south of
TH 7 shouid be lined-up as much as possible and public
street access should be spaced 500 to 750 feet apart. The
improvement of TH 7 to the five lane section could be stagedby widening at selected locations and restriping foi a
center left-turn lane at these locations.
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clal dlstncts. The olfice uses permltted tn
thls drstrtct are those tn whtch th€re ls
llmrted contact wtth the general pubhc
ard in which no manulacturlnE..€tiertor
displa!, or the di.ect selling oI merchan-
dise frcn the permtttd use shall b€ a!
lowed.
9.U P.rDinGd UrC3, Within a C-l Of-
fice Buildin8 Disurct. no burlding or land
shall be used ercept for th€ lbllowrng
uses:l. Administrative ard erec!tive officts.
2. }ledical, dental. legal and similar pro-
Iessional oflices.
3. Financial institutrons.
t.lB Acirsso.y Us.s. Within a C-l Of-fice &rilding Dlsanct. the follorrtnp usesshall b€ allo*ed as access{rry to tli per-
mttted use:
.. l. Within office buildinSs having €i-uEr a gross fl@r area ot ao.m or more
square feet or at least 2fl) full-time officeemployees, a limited amount of th.grqrnd floo. area may b€ used lor tacilr-ties provlding convclrtence goods and
servrces tor the offic-e area occuFants and
Du$n€ss tnqtees proytded tllat th€ total
nct fl@r-atea d.votcd to $ch acc"lsor-y
usc3 sh.ll not
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8ro!s fl@. arc. oa tll. buildint. S.id .c.oes!(ry uscs !h.ll includ. tiola listcdbelos and slch otJpr accBsorv ulcs lhcprimary luncbon o{ which shelfb. to $pply convcnicncc goods ard scrnc.es f;r
thc oati(r butldrU ocotpants:
a. Restaurants. cafes and corlcG
shops.
b. Oflice $pply €quipment. s.lcs and
servroe.
c. Pharmacres aDd related Dro{es-
sional shoils.
d- Nrysstands.
-e. Barber shops.
2. Subordinatc us€s whlch are clearlv
and crrstdnarrly accessory to the rrermti-
ted use.
t.aa Utca by Codition l Ur. P"r6il.
Within a C-l Olficc &lildinfl Drstrict. Ute
follosirB us€s may b€ allo*ed bot only
upon tlE securin8 ol a Conditional Us€
P€rmlt:l. Any use p€rmitted rn Section 7-fi of the
Sin8le Family Residene District. as
re8!lated ttErein-
2. Multlple dwellih8s cooteining not l€ss
th.n three r3 r dwelltnS untts.
3. Hospitals.
4. Mortuarles.
5. Rescarch facilities and laboratortes.
6. Passenger lactllttes lor mass transtt
t.ai H.itl( Y..d. Arc..!d lrr width
and D"pth Rclutarioni.l. Hci3bl Rctulaions:
a. No structu.e shall exceed 15leet in
helShl. as measur€d lrom the average
Srade oa the surrqrrding lot area.
2. Fro.i Yard RaarLtioG!:
a. There shall be a lront yard havrng
a depth of not less thrn 6 teet.
b. A lot located at the tntersecuon of
two or more sfeeG shall have e laont
yard depth on each street std€ of not
less than 25 fe€t.
3. Sid. Y.rd RrlrLtioor:
a. Each burldrnS not rn exc..$ o[ 30
fe€t in h€ight shall have a side yard
having a depth o, not less than 25 fit.
b. Each buildlng rn excess o[ m feel
in h€lgh_t shall have a srde yard havtng a
depth of not less than 25 feet Dlus one
loot ol stde !,ard for each foot tn hetght
in excess of 30 feet.
{. Brar Yard RGtuLliotls:
a. Each butldlnt not tn ercrss of 30
feet rn helght shall have a rear vard
havrng a depth ol not less than 25 f&t.
b. Each building rn excess o,30 feet
in herSht shall have a rear yard having
a depth oI not less than 25 feet plus onefoot o{ rear yard for every foot ln
herght in ercess o[ 30 leet.
5- Lol lrc. RctrLtioos:
a. l{ot more than 30'; of the lot area
shall be occupred by burldrngs.
b. An allowance o, 5m square fe€t
shall be permrued for each parking
stall in or under tlE prlncipal structure
or otlErrvise cuDletel:,/ underground.
6. Dirarict fu'ca R.{ulaaioDs:
a. Each C-l Olftce hrilding District
shall have an ar@ of not less than 3
acres uniess such district adjoins an-
other C-l Distnct or a C-2 Disrrrct.
9.05 Buildirt D.si8! end Corstrnc-
3ion.
l. D.sitD Rcvi.r:
a. No bullding permrt for a princtpal
buildlnS or bulldrngs accessory thereb,
in a C-l Distrlct shall be issued wlthout
having first been revtewed bv the Plan-
nrng Commlssron and approved b!,the
Councrl followrng the procedures setforth in Sectlon 23, Condttlonal Use
Permit Procedure, except that no puE
lic hearin8 need be held on any applica-
tion for a permtt. The Counctl ma!, at-
tach gtch condtttons and guarantees to
any such permit as it deems necessarv
to insure cornpltance $lth the provi-
sions d this ordrnance
2. D.sitn EespoDsibiliry:
a. A burldlng permlt for a pnnctpal
buildinS. or butldtngs accessory there-
to. rn a C-l Distnct shall not be iliiued
unless the applicant s buildinS ptans.
including th€ site plao. are certified by
an architect registered in the Slate of
Minnesota, stating that the desi8n oI
the building and site has been prepared
under his direct sulErvrsion. Aoy burld-
ing of Type I or Type lI constructron. as
provided in the Ulilorm &rildinS Code
incorporated by reference by Ordi-
nance No- 23. shall have its electrical.
mechanical and structural systems
desiSrEd by enSineers reSrstered in th€
State of Minnesota. Provrsrons o, this
paragraph shall not prohrbrt the Prepa-
ratron of the srte plan bv a pro,essronal
site planner.
3. Typ. of Consr.uclion:
a. All buildinSs rn a C-l District shall
be o{ Type I or Type ll constructton as
set fo.th in sard Unrform BurldrnE
Code.{. loci[cr.to.s. Trash.nd Ga.b.8c:
a. !:rterlor storaie o( trash and Ear-
bage shall b€ completelv enclos(d bv
walls ad rool. and all SirbaBe shJll ba
stored in complerelv encloscd vrll.Sc
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6. hcinerators" Taash aDd Carbacc:
- a. Extenor storage of trash"and gar-
bage shall be complerelv enclosed bv*alls and roof. and all gaibage shall bi:
stored rn completelv enclosed Vlllage
approv€c contatners.
b. Onll' Village approved incinerators
-and trash and garbage compactors
shall be used
7. Elev.3o.s:
a. All multiple residence buildings of
more than three r3r stories shall b€
equipped with not less than one rl l put>.
Iic elevator.
8. .{cccssorv &rildings:
a. S€tbacl requtrements established
for multiple restdence burldings shall
apply to accessorv buildings except
that accessory buildinEs located within
the rear vard of the multiple residence
burlding mav be located to within 5 feetor the rear of intenor side property
llne
b. Exteriors of accessow butldings
shall have the same exreriir finish is
the principal structure.
t.07 Parti4. There shall be provided
on the stte occupredtv th€ multiDle resF
dence buildrng a mtntmum of two pa*rng
spaces per dwelling unrt. one of which
shall be enclosed: except that !n the R-2Distnct there shall be provtded two en-
closed parklng spaces per dwelltn( unlt.
Each parkrng space shall have imrnr-
mum '. idth o{ 9 feet and a minimum
depth of 20 feet exclusive of aisles and
maneuverrng space. Exposed parking
areas shall be surlaced wtth a hard. al!weather, durable. dust-free surlactng
matenaland, shall be properly drained.
and shall be marntatne{ ln a sishtlv and
well.kept condltton. l,lo parking;rea shall
be located closer than 25 feet ao the frontproperty ltne. nor closer than l0 feet to
anv burldinq. All parklng areas conlalntng
more than slx spaces whlch face either a
publlc street or resrdentrallv zoned prol>
ertv shall have a soltd wa ll or fence o[ not
less than four feet rn herght almg such
adjornln* groertv line. whtch shall be
maintained in good condition. and which
shall be so designed to be architecturally
llarmonrous wlth the prrnclpal structure.
A screen plantrng approved by the Councrl
ma_v be substttuted for the requtred wall
or lence.
8-0t GeneralRegulations.l. Addrtlonal reSulJtrons rn the R-2, R-3
and R-4 llesidence Districts are set
lorth rn Sectron 19.
t.09 Boundaries oa th€ R-2, R-3 at|d R-.1
R€sidanca Districts.
The bounda es oI the R-2, R-3 and R'I Resrdence Dastrlcts shall include the
followrn8 descrrbed tracts and parcels
of land:
SECTIO\ 9. C.I OFFICE BUILDI1]G
DISTRICT.
9.01 Pu.posr. The C-l Office &rildin8
Dtstrrct ts tntended to provtde a dtstrtct
whrch rs related to and mav reasonablv
adrorn hrgh densttv restdential. commer-cial and rndustrrai dtstrtcts for the l(xa-tioo and development o[ ad.rnints]ratlve
olfrce butldrngs and related office uses
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and trash and Sarbage comPactors
shaU be used.
5. Elcv.tors:
a. All burldinSs in a C-l District of
more than 2 storles shall be equipped
wrth no less than one publlc elevator.
5. Acccssorv &rildirs:
a. Set b;ck requirements established
for prrncrpal buridings ln a C'l District
shall appl!- to accessorv buildrnSs. ex'
cept that accessory bulldtngs located
wrthln tlle r€3r yard of a slte adiolnlng
anv C-1, C-2. C-3 or I-l Distnct may b€
loiated wrthrn l0 feet of the reat or ln-
terror srde propert!" Iine.
b. Exterrors of accessory buildtngs
shall have the same exteridr finish ,s
the principal structure.
t.07 Parlir{.
L Spacrs R.quir.d:i. A minrmum c{ one olf'street park'
ing space shall be provlded on the bulld'
ing slte for each 300 squale feet ol Sross
floor area eithin the principal struc-
ture: provrded that on butldlng sltes uti-
lized pnmanlv tor medical and dental
offi.es a mlnrmum of srx olf-street
parklrE spaces shall be requtred lor
each doctor or dentist malntatnlng prG
fessronal offices tn the principal struc-
ture.
b. when the principal structure is of
such size or capacrty as to allow for
accessorv uses $ithin said struclure.
additional of f -street parking spaces
shall be provrded at the rate of eiSht
spaces for each ltm sqlare feet ol
Sross floor area devoted to such acces_
SOrt_ USeS.
2. Dcsigl aod Cons]ructron.
a- Oflstreet parking areas shall be so
desigrEd that vehicles mav be parked
in a convenrent and orderly fashion.
Parking areas shall be surfaced and
maintrned wrth a hard. all'weather.
durable. dust-free su.lacrng material.
shall be p.@erlr drarned. and shall be
malntarned rn a li8htlv and well-kept
condition. Erh parklng space shall be
clearly outllned or otherrrse marked
and shall have a minimum width of 9
feet and a length o{ z} feei exclusive of
aisles and maneuverlng space. Clear
aisle *rdths shall b€ at least 12 feet lor
{5 degree parkrng. 18 feet for 60 degree
parkrng and 2a feet for g) deSree park-
ing. Open off-street parking which
faces erther a public street or residen-
tiallv zond property shall have a solld
wall or lence of not less than four feet
in herght whrch shall be maintained rn
good condrtton, ard whrch shall be de.
srgned to be archrlecturally harmonr
ous wrth the prrncrprl structure. A
screen plantrn* approved blr the Coun-
cll mav be srbstrlutei for the required
wall or lence The wall or fence shall
not be used foa advertrslnS puaposes
Anv llShtrng used to rllumrnate off-
street parkrng areas shall be so ar-
ranga{ as to deflect the liSht awar
from idracent pr(pertles3 Locairon:a \o parklng area shJll be located
closer than i5 feet to the front propert(
kne noa closer than l0 feet to ant bulld-
tn8.
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a. All suppltes, equlpmenl and motor
vehrcles rn excess o[ 2 o[ larger than
7.0m pounds hcensed Sross welSht shall
be stored wrthtn a completelv enclosed
buildinS.
5. Lo.dirS:
a. There shall b€ provtded a minr
mum of one otf-street loadinS facilit:r
for a buildiry having a gross Iloor area
of m.m to lo.m square fe€t and one
additional tacilitv for each 100.000
square leet or ma,ior fractlon thereol
ov€r 100.000 square feet. The location.
design and screenrng of loadin8 areas
shall be sublect to the same restric-
tions applcable to off-stre€t parking
areas.
9.oT lrndscapirg.l. All exposed groond areas of a permit-
led use trhlch are not devoted to drtves.
side$ralks. palios or simrlar uses shall
be landscaped wlth grass. shrubs.
trees. or other ornamental landscaPe
materials. which shall be kept neat.
clean and unclutterd. No landscaped
area shall be used for the parhing of
vehicles. o. the storaSe or displav ol
materials. crpplies, or merchandlse.
9.00 G.ncralBcgulatioDs.t. Additional regulairons in the C-l Office
Burlding District are set forth in Sec-
tion 19./ 9-lo Bouid.rics ol rhc C-l OtlicethriEior Di3lricl. The boundarles of the
C-l Offic? B..rilding District shall include
th€ followrng describ€d tracts and parcels
of land:
SECTION IO. C.2 COiTMERCIAL DIS
TRICT.
10.01 Purposc, The C-2 Commercial
District is intended to provide compact
centers lor retail sales and services offer-
lng a wrde ranSe of Boods and servlces.
i0.02 P.rmrlrad Uses. withtn a C.2
Commercial DisFict. no building or land
shall be used except lor the followlnt
uses:[. General retail sales ard seavlces. but
not rncludinS automobile. truck, trac-
tor. traller. bGat. or other mobile pow-
er{riven equrpment sales or s€rvrces.
buildinS matenal yards. or aulqnobile
car wash eslabhslunents
2. Financral instrtutrons.
3. &rslrEss ard pro(essronal o{liccs.
a. Restaurants. the2ters and taverns. but
not rncludirl8 'drive.ln typc service.5 Drv cleanrng and laundrv collectlon
statlons and sell-s€rvlce laundrrca.
6. Mortuarres? Covernment oerEd and operated crvlc
and cultuaal rnstrirtrons rncludtnS. but
not hmlted to, admrnrstrattv€ oflices.
libraries. publrc saletv bulldtnfls, and
place:i oa ass€mblvla.fl Acc6rdy L13c3. Wrthrn a C-2
Commercral Drstrrct. lhe loltowlng uses
shall be allo*ed as accessory to th€ pcr-
mrtted us€ .
L Sutordrnate uses *hrch are clearl:/ and
(\rst(rnarllv accessorv to the permrtled
use2 Reparr lacrlrtres when operated as
accessorv to a retarl sales permrttd
use. provrded that sard acccssory us€
,,f -, o"*0, mor€ than 3o', ot the
grms floor area d the prtnclpal struc-
ture.
1a.0a Co!dilio!.| Uics. within a C-2
Commercial District. the tollovinS uscs
mav b€ allwed. but only upon thc scc1lr-
InI ol a Condltpnal Use Permlt:
L-Auto servtce stattons for Basolinc. oil.
tire. battery and accessory sal?s. er-
cludrrf My and major Power train
reparr. and provtded that. ln additlon to
such other condltlons as may be ple-
scriH by any conditional use permit.
tha follorirt minrmum stardards shall
apply:';. 'No service station su'ucture' parl-
in{ area or drlveway excePl access
driveavs shall b€ lcated wlthln lU)
feet of any portton ol an R-lA. R-l or R-
2 Resrdenual District.
b. A S€rvicr station site shall have a
frontaS! ol not less th.ir !50 leet on a
Dubhc street. and shar: hav€ nol lcss
ilun two olaces o{ access to a publlc
sr.eet- Th; btal'srte ares shall b€ no:
less than m,o(x) squere fe€t.
c. Fucl pump rshods shall bc set
bad not less thao 25lcet lrotn aoy
prop€rty hrE.- d. Hoisls. Dtts, lubrication. washinS'
and repalr qulpment shall b€ encloscd
withrn the prtncrpal structure.
e. All drlveway and Parltng area
surfaces shall b€ coflstructed and maln.
tained in the same manner as Pr€-
scrib€d for FaritnS areas in this dis-
trict.
t. The storage oI wreded or junked
vehicles shall not be permttted on an
aulo service station site.
2. Establishments of the drive'ir" type.
ercept dnve-tn theaters. offerlng Soods
or sdrvices directlv to cultome-tsTEr-
fig-r n iiarkef motdrvahiclea a prb-vifed
'that. an addition tdauch oth€r ?ondi-
tions as may be prescribed b!' any con-
ditlonal use p€rmlt. the followlng mlnl'
mum standards shall aPPIY:
a. No structure. Parking area. or
driveway excepa access driv€rf,ays
shall b€ located wathin lm feet of an!'
portron of an R-lA. R-l or R-2 Resid€n-
tirl District.
b. Each sit€ shall have a frontaSe of
not less than lio leet on a public street'
ard shall have not less than lwo places
of access to a public street- The toral
site area shall be not less than m.ofl)
souare fe€t.'c. Partinc areas shall have a front
yard havrng a depth ot nol less than 25
ieet and a srde vard havinS a depth ot
not less than l0 [eet.
3. Hotels and motels.
{. P:rrkrng ramps.
5. Private clubs and lodges organizd as
non'prof it corporalrons.
6. Pessenger lacllrtres for mass transil
servtces.
10.0i llcight, Ya.d, Arc.. ..d Loa
Widrh.rd Dcpih RcluLtionsl. llri8hlR.grL.rions:
a. :to structure shall exceed {5 leet
in herght as measured Irom the average
Srade of the surr(rlndrnS lol area.
2. l'rolrr Yard Rrtltliatioos:
a. There shall be a [ront yard havrnS
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a depth ol -not less than-25 leet. excepr zoned c.2 or C-3. parkrng areas adiorn- located ln saparate arcas adracrnt to o t-
that a srte factnE on an R'l A. R'l or R-2 rns all other dlstncts shall nor be locat. er relatl lrusiness dlstrrcts jr|d thus h.lo
Resrdentlal Drstnct shall have a lro ed ctoser ttran ZS fit to lhe slde or rear to teep th€ bastc rctatl ".e"r c-np"ft
yard havtng a depth ot not less than lm propertv lirE. Truck traflic shall be aod convenr€nt, ard rn other s.pa;aEfeet. iouied irornd and nor throuEh automc ar€as to provrde e drstnct whrch mav ba
b. A lot located at the rntersectlon of bili oarkrnc areas. - lo(at€d rn close p.orrmtty to a ma;oriho
two or more streets shall have a front 4. Lonillnr, ' ror8hrare or hrgh*ay in order that htgtr
tard depth on each street slde of not a. Ariotf-street loadlE facilttv shall wav servlce types ot lard uses can -be
less than the depth requrred under be provtded wrth an ar& o[ not less provrded _subsectton2(a I above. than 12. feet in width and 65 feet in 11..2 Pcr'il.{ Ur.s, Withih a C-3
3. Sidc Yard Rctulations: length. exclusive ol aisles and maneu- CommercEl Service Dtstrict. no hrildint
a. A site adroining an R-lA. R-l or vering space. Such facilrty shall be at or land shall be used €xc€pt fo. the tollow-
R-2 Residenual Drstrict shall have a the r;r;t Drincroal struciure and shall ll18 uses:
side vard havrng a depth of not less than be used exilusrvilv for the loadrnr and I Sales. servlccs and maror reparr o[
75 teet unloadng of merchandrse. All sua Ia- Itrotor vehlcles. boats. and moblle poc,-
{. Rcar Yard RaEuLlions: crhttes. Irsles and maneuverlng sDace er drlvcn recreahonal equtFnent
a. Aslteadiornrn8anR'lA,R-lorR- shall be surfaced rn the same iunner 2. Auto s€rvlc! statrons. provrded that
2 Resrdential Drstrlct shall havea rear as that orescrlbed for Darklncareas. the mrnlmum standards of Sectron
yard havrng a depth of not less than ?5 5. Storage: 10.0{ r I , o, thts ordtnance slEll applv.
ieet. a. Aill supplies, equipment. and mo. 3. Establishments d the 'drteein -t!?e5. Loa Arca Rctultioos: tor vehiclei in excesi o? 2 of larger than ollerrng Soods or servl(?s direcll:r lo
a. Notmorethan2S'; of the lotarea 7.000 pounds licensed gross werlht shall customers waltlnS.ln parled moto.
shatl beocc{pied by buildings. be st;ed withit a coipletely Enclosed vchrcles. provrded that th€ mlnrmum
6, District Area Regubaions: bulldms. standards o{ S€ctio. l0.(xr2' of thls
a. Each C-2 Commercial Dlstrict 10.0t iandsraoine. ordlnance shall apply.
shall tlave an area of not less than 5 l. All exposed gtirrn? "."r. of a permit- {. Greenhqtses lor retallsales onlv.
acres. unless such dlslrtct adiotns an' ted use whrcliare not devoted todrrves. 5. Flnanctal lnstllutlons.
other C-2 District or a C-3 District. sidewa.lks. Aa uos or srmllar uses shall 5. Hotels and motels.
10.06 &rildrng DesiSn and CoDslruc' be landsciped wrth grass, shrubs. 7. Restaurants. theaters and taverns.
liotr. BuildlnB destgn and constructlon trees. or otirr ornam;nul landscape 8. Dry cleanlnS aId lauld.v collectlon
wlthln a C-2 Distnct shall b€ Sovern€d b! matenals. whlch shall be keDt neat. stations. and s€lf-s€rvrce hundrles
the provisrons o[ Segtton 9.06 of thts ordi. clean. and unclunered. No lan'dscaped 9. Retail plumblns. heatlnS. tel€vlsron.
nance. exceptas herelnafter set lorth area shall be used for the parking of radroand apphance sales and reperr.
l- Acccssorv Euildinfs: vehrcles or the storape or drsolai o[ l0 Morbarles
". set ucr requirements esublished miiiiiir.. sroorii.. oi'1n".cr*,i,s6. ll.o3 Acctsso.y Uscs. wrthrn a C-3
for buildings in i C-2 District shall ap i0.m CeaerifRcgut.rton.. Commercial Service Distrrct. the follow'
olv to accelsorv butldtngs. t. Uses D€rmrtted rn the C-2 Commerc,al tIU uses shall be allowed as accessorv to' 'b. Extertors- of acceisorv butldings Drstnits shall be subiect to the follow- the permr]ted use.
shall have the same e:(terior finish as |niiona,tion., ' L Subordinate uses which are clearlv and
thepnncipal structure. ; All business establishments shall custanarily accessory to the pcrmttted
10.0? Parhing. be retail or service establlshments - us€'
l. spaces Req;ired: shrch deal directlv with customers. All l'^llY C,9fi1t-9T,
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".Trr".ini:i"r- number of off-street goods produced on the premrs€s shall 4 commerclal servrc,e ' Distrlct the follo.l-
parking spaces requlred on thebuildrng 6e solil on the premrses wh€re pro rng uses ryl,k^11]11"d but onlv upon
!,r;l;;ffi; ii;%ri"*i"J p"i.lu"i duced. the securrnS ol a Cordrrronal use Permrr:
usesshallbe: b' All business servicing or process' l ],)ses allowcd rn the R{ C'l and c-2
General Retail Salcs and services, in8. except for off-street parking and ^ Lllslrlcts ,
Financial lnsrilulrons: onespaceper ofi-street'loadrng, shall bi cond-ucted 2 991T:l!i1!81:enhouses and land'
tg) square (eet ol pflncrpal struclure wrthrn completelv enclosed buildings " T:t5-"-'-T:=*
Sross'floor area.. c. All activities involving the produc- j X:l!ll8 1?Tgt . ,.- Business and profcssiolal Otfic€s, tion. processing, cleaninf. seivicrng. l. Private, clubs and lodSes organrzed as
exceot medlcal and dental: one testlng or repalr o{ materlals. goods or - non'protl[ co-rporallons
;;;"J;; il'i;";; r""i "ip""",p^l' pioauits strait contorm wrth thiperfor- 5. Passen8er facrlrties for mess transrl
iliriiri." gro.siloo. ".ea. inance standards estab[shed tor the I-l s€rvr€es
Mcdicaf and D.rral Otliccs: Six ' Indusbial District in Section 12 of th's
sDaces lor each doctor or dentrst ordrnance. provrded that th€ pertor' --.ll.O5 fl-.itb-l' Yard. Arca and Lol
matntatnrng professlonal offtces ln mance standards shall in every case be widlh ati_DaPtt Ra8ul,rrioos.
the princrpil structure- applied at the bo.ndaries of the lot on l. H.i'ir RcfuLlions:
R.slauranls, . Theat.rs and whrch such activities take place. a. No sructure shall exceed {5 feel
T"r;;;.i O"; ipace per 100 ,qu"." Z. Addruonal reSulatrons in th€ C-2 Com- in hei8ht as measured lrom the averaSe
Ieet o[ o ncroal structur" s.or. ;. mercral Drstrict are set forth rn Sectron Srade of th€ surrqrndrnS lo] area.
;;;;;;;;;;;;;;i'iiea'ts rn ptace . ts 2 Front Y'rd R'*ur2uons:
o[ assemblv. whlcheu". ," g."rr"i. ,r.10.10 Boonda.i.s ol tlrc C_? commcr' a There shall be a front !'ard havlng-- C-"i,'.iii"ii' Ariiaines-,'i6 ;pa ces f,cla I Districl. a depth oI not less than {} feet. excepl
"r,* ".. -rr"" ocr 5oo iuare flet ofJj The borndanes o{ the C-2 Commer' that a slte factn8 on an H'lA. R-l or R-2
iiii.i,iif itii"r'rii "io..-ttoo. a.e" 5cral Drstrict shall rnclude the follonrng Resrdentral Drstrrct shall have a front
'' Ji;;i;;;;;i O*" space ioi eictr 'descn bed tracts and parcels of land: yard havr n8 a depth of nor less than lm
"-ri""". "na on".or"e lor each 3 sEcTros ll. c'i C0oi-UERCIAL feet'
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"r "!i".uiv sERvrcE DtsrRtcT. b. A lot located at the rnt€rsectron of
2. Ileraln ard Consirucrion: ll.ot Purposc. The C-3 Commercial two or mo.e streets shell hav€ a front- , inia.i,onand constructron ot off- Servrce Dist;rct is desr8ned to furnrsh :/ard depth on each streel side o[ not
.;"J ';-:,;k;? ';;;"i ," i C-i-bi.ti'"t areas served bv other rea;rl busrness drs- less than the depth requrred under
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Sectron gliT of ttus uidrnante. Soods shich mlght otherwlse be lncom- 3. SidG Yard R.tuhrions:
3. Loc.lrcn: ;atrble wrth the uses permrttd in retall - a. A srte ad.l_ornrnE an R-lA. R-l ot R-" -i.- i'p"rfrng area mav abut the busr*ss dist.cts. Thls distrlct ls rntetrd- 2 Restdentlal Dlstrrcl shall have a sld€
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MEMORANDUM
TO: JoAnn Olsen, Assistant.City Planner
Recreation CoordinatLori Sietserna, Park and
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March 10, 1988
RE: Park and Recreation Commission Action on HSZ Development
The Park and Recreation Commission reviewed this site plan at,Eheir last meeting. The Comprehensive Plan does not call forpark land in this area as it is within the service of area of
Herman Field. A lrail easement may be needed along TH 4I.
However, the road right-of-way is 150 feet wide and the state hasindicated that they would give approval on trail constructionwithin that right-of-way. If such is not the case, additional
easement should be obtained.
The Commission also discussed the alternatives involved to pro-vitle a second access the neighborhood if 54th Street is vacated.
The Commission is interested in either of these proposals as itwill provide access to Herman Field.
It is the recommendation of the park and Recreation Commission toaccept park and trail dedication fees and to require a 20 foott.rail easement along Ttl 4I if trails cannot be constructed withinthe right-of-way. They have also recommended lhat a secood
access be pursued, connecting the existing neighborhood to TH 41.
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Tot Citi' cf Ch; rJr; rsenrll.S.3. Development.
Rei Reloc{ tion ,f 64th ::.t. {s Der dri. lrin,I (e+) (Af ) of eubxd.ted lezcninr pla.n.
To l./hon it n:y concern.
This is to infoin you ue hr ve no objection tc thc develorloent prsns rs outlined
by lhe rbcve nr ned develcper, provided the forrin;; terns ind co[ditions listed
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1. tny 15nd used or isolsted Dust be purched 6t the v6lue qgtee iI epon.
2. lny of our structures be i.ng cffected by the nev loc:tion cf 6{ct.,
vill be relocated, fo! our use, 3t the expenge of the developer.
J. Our present drivev.y nill not be sffected in rny vry by thisreloceticn of t4at.
{. A).1 cost incured in t}re relocction of 54st. yilL be entirly bornby the develooers, st no co3t to us.
5. AII fees, for seuer, wl ter, trunk cherges or assenents, which
ney be incured by the constnrcticn of this ror iI will be p:idfor by the develcpe!, slso uy rnd. rll tcx increases due tiirectlyto thj.s development both nov i nd i s long i s ue ovn thls property
wil.lbe pri.C for by the develorer.
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Dear Council Members,
August 28, 7987
, council meeting, the agendacated in the southwest cornerd been originally zoned resid
hange the zoning to commerciaresidents and many of us notht, traffic and of the greate
re and stil1 are major concerthe convenience of a qui-ck a
At the Augusr 3, 1987
involving property 1o
41 . This property haoriginal request to c
opposed by the 1ocaLgeographically. Blignyself, aesthetics we
am willing to give uprelated retail busine
area and to the west.residents of Chanha s s
zone an area ttrnake a
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reserve the green wayI stated then, to the Cityen, that they did not have abucktt in order to please some
included discussion
of highway 7, and
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l use r.ras seriously
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st importance tons. I was amd stil1ccess gas staEion or
appearance of Lhat
Council and to theresponsibi.lity torrbottom line minded
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This corner is clearly not best served by being zoned residential. Ialso believe that to beI was very pleased that
zoned retail commercial is also inappropriate.
ompromise and rezoned
ncil minutes atd. I did not likeors were ref erredd enough to attend
my opinion to the
convenience
ish to see Lhe'-these days ofgreenway
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this corner limited use conmercial , which allowed the developer aprotected the area and thearger choice in his development plans yetvishes of the area residents. Twice, 1ocal ciEizens and myselfattended council neetings to, in my opini.on, defend ourselves f romthis developer and hi-s retail plans for thls corner. I felt after thesecond meeting, this issue had been laid Eo resf, and developmenE wouldproceed as allowed by the zoning change.
I was angered and dlsmayed to read the August 3, couwhich time the use of this property was again debatebeing considered, Itloud and outspokenrt as the neighbto. I felt that I was, nore approprlately, concerne
Lhe required meetings, and fook the time to express
City Council. I do not feel the need for fast food,retail, etc. , in this area and I personally do not r{land used in such a manner. 0f higher importance inrapid growth and expansion, i.s the desire to see the
appearance of this corner maintained to some degree.
addiLion of convenience/fast food retail d evelopment in this cornernothing short of blight and as such oppose any consideration by LheCity Council to change Lhe existion zoni.ng from its present status. Iwould like to remind the council that the developer bought this parcelof land zoned residential. I feel the council vas very generous inchanging to the present comrnercial rating. Why must we as residents,
who live in this area, once again come forward to argue the sameissues and concerns?
I consider the
I am oppossed to this developer, his plans and his tactics f orrezoning. They spe1l blight, additional traffic and a degradationny conmuniEy. He shovs lack of respect both to the communlty andresidents.
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minutes, the developer used the word "extortj-on'r. Het the 1oca1 residents could be ttbought ou!tt (or he
sane). If this is the case, I would recommend an
this allegation by the city's Public Safety Di.rector.
I would like the developer to come forward with the names of the
people who have suggested that money mj-ght quiet their opposition. I
would suggest thaE the above connents as noted in the council minutes,
are j ust short of being slanderous.
I would urge the City Council to resist any attempt by any developer
to change the present zoning of the property located in the southwest
corner of highway 7, and 41 . I am opposed to the zonlng of thisproperty rrnake a buckf to the benefit of any developer and Ehepossible harn Eo the 1oca1 residents, be that noise, visual
congestion or simply the aesthetics of the area.
Sincerely
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Mayor Tom Hami lton
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we homeov,ners on oriole .qvenue, whose homes are directly aifected by
the proposed Tomac development, are very desperate at ttlis point-
we heLpcd elect you to office believing thai you were the best candidates
for Ehis most difficult job-
Last June when you tcld us that c-i loifice) was the best possible
,"ni"S for all concerned, we accepte6 y.ur deciston- Now, Tonac is back
igain-with the new Froposal of C-2, tryli'rg to force Fasi Fcods, Gas
s[ation. Hardees, and a Retall Complex housing such t-hings as a Iiquor
store, anC etc.
lJe are especiallv worried about the HEAVY TITAFFIC !
our feelings are very NECATIVE about this proposal- l{obody- is showlng
,i ho, thii developnrenr: is goinq to Look! Quote, "the Develcper comes,
itre Oevelop"r g"es, he rjevel-opes his property and Roves on' But the
Homeowners- have .been here for irears because this rs -iheie chey iive' this
ir tt,"la "homestead". s
THIS ISli,TrAIRl We think that anyone that is sold on Tcrrac's c-2
-proposal sll-crul <i BUY or.rr houses and LI\/E here I
'An assessor has stated that our property.valles "wi111'Sq-ao'*tr because-of - -this ccn11erciai.ism. IF this zoni;g change is allowed, then tshe deveioper
shoulc pay us Hor':leoiri'iers the 'difference' betileen our ii.rne values iio!,,
and o'.rr ht;ne 'ralues AI'TIR !
!{e war.t a iGUARA|ITEE" of rJhat establisirments are goinq in' and a
"GUARadTEE" that other {hings cannots be dur:ped here'
Thereforc, we hope that you will decitie for the horieccl/nei's and keep Ehe
Dresent zo:litrg, or else retur:n it to R-!' (Pesidential) '
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[Je the indivi<iual homeowners and others directry affected by the proposedre-zonirrq request by Ehe Tomac DeveloDmenE Co. to re-zone the ?.9 acieparcel (located at the southr.iests corner of Highways Z & 4I) from thepresent C-I (office buildins district) to C-2 (ccmmercial district)petition Ehe members of the chanhassen city councir !o vote to maintainthe present zoning C-1, or else return the zoning back to the originalR-I (Residential ) .
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re-zoning request by the Tomac Development Co. to re-zone the 7.9 acre
parcel (Iocated at the southwest corner of Highways 7 & 4I) from the
present C-I (office building distri.ct) to C-2 (cornmercial district)
hereby petition .the men:bers of the Chanhassen City council to vote to
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PETITION
We, the individual homeowners and others directly affected by the proposed
re-zoning request by the Tomac Development Co- to re-zone the 7.9 acreparcel (Iocatd at the southvrest corner of Highways 7 & 41) from thepresent C-l (office buildinq distri.cts) Eo C-2 (commercial district)
hereby petition the members of the Chanhassen City Council to vote to
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present C-I (office O"liai"s districts) to C-2 (commerciaL district)
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Chanhassen C ity Counci 1
14r. and llrs. Richard IJino
3481 Shore Drive
Zoninn chanqe proposal, Hionway 7 and 41
l'la.y 2q, 1986
Council llembers:
Some months aqo, my wife and mysetf attended several neetinos
reoard i nq the re-zoni nq of the Southwest corner of thi s i ntersecti on.
Many citizens of our cit-v voiced their concerns and object.ions tothis parcel beinq re-zoned C3. The result of these man.v meetinqsresulted in a fair compromise, that of a C1. !,le believed the re-zoninofrom residential to restricted commerc i al qave the devel oDer soneadditional leeway he did not nreviously have. The C1 did however,restr i c t his pl ans to "bl iqht" this corner (m.y opinion).
Traffi c was not our on 1y concern. The qreenwa ect, traffic,fast food and c onven i ence food bl ioh t all entered i nto the discussions.
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l.li th the Councils actions, tha t of C1, I al ong wi th the iocalresidents felt this matter was resolved. Now Tonac is back, trvinoto push, once aqain, undesirable and unwanted commercial develoDmentin this l ocati on. The ink on the l ast heari nqs and suhseouent
re -zon i nq is still wet.
l, e are opposed to commerc ial reta'i I , fast food, conventence store
shoppinq center use of this parcel. trle consider the C1 zonino final
and complete. Any developer as such can comol.y with that zoninrl andit's restrictions and I eave us, the C i ti zens of Chanhassen al one.
We would urqe the Council to denv anyparcel from it's present C1 status.
We as citizensmanner. Let's
spoke, the Cit-v Council acted in an informed and fairIive wi th and enforce those acti ons.
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ExceLylott, MN 55331
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Cha.nhaa,ten, MN.
Deatt W. Hanilton:
Thz ptLopoazd zone change on the coanet o( tlighnvg 7 atd 4l diccu,s.sed
bq the planing eonan.Lt sion lecenLt4 ,stittted up menottiea o$ to,,st qeat
covetting the ,sane zub ject.
It.szzna tt ne tho-t the le,sult o{ the nmettoua meet ing e t ht i,sh-
ed the {act tho,t a C-2 de,signaLton would be out o{ the queal,Lon
due to the ttaddic hazattd that wuld be ctea.ted.
Highua4 7 and 41 have not changed and. fJte pttoblem tuwitt s.
A lelt hond tu,,r-n on 7 onto )ttiote when going u)e,st i2s a. hazatd atpLztent. I( C-2 i,5 allowed the paoblzn toould be compounded bq
people deehing accea,S to whafu.vett cornneteiaL opeiation i,s buil,t.
The,a $,itt.tt opLion wouLd be a le(t on 1ttiole the ,szcond would be
Sandpipen. Tlte rane p:toblen wouU exi,st on that tuln and in add-ition cnza.te ttaidic in thaf. te.t.Ldenlial attea.
Naathbound tra.idic on 41 Lw1 ing to ga,in entnq woud conLirute to
7 and nalze a le{t go.Lng wat and usould be {aced with thz aone
dzc,Ltion aA o.bove and add tc thz pnobten.
Until t-lte ttad[ic ptoblen i,s cotttected the ptteaent zon.ing ahoull
be netained.
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To:Mayor Tom Hami I ton
Chanhassen Ci ty Counci 1
From:
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Richard Wing
Prooosed Commercial
Highway 7 and 41
Devel opment
Date: May 30, 1985
I am opposed to commercial develonment in theof this intersection. Reality would however,of commercial use is reasonable.
Southwes t quadrant
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I would l ike to express my opinion that1' CZ zoni nq would be
unacceptabl e and detrimental to our communi ty. I don 't needwant the bliqht, traffic, signs, etc., that miqht accomDany
useaqe such as conveni ence stores , oas stations, etc.
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I believe the attached letter and myself soeak for the vast majorityof Chanhassen residents in the Northwest service area when the subjectof commercial use for this corner is at issue.
A Cl/'RZ zoning as suoqested by the Planninq Commission, wouldappear unreasonable. A C1 zoninq would rnost likel-v not bl iqhtcorner nor increase traffic nor threaten the nearby residents.
However, a C2 zoninq would affect all of the above and I wouldyou to consider zoninq of this proDert.y carefull.y.
Thank you
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CITY OF CHANIIASSEN
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MAY 3 1 885
COMMU N ITY DEVELOPfYIENT DEPT
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Re: Proposed Commercial DevelopmentTrunk Highway 7 and County Road 41
Dear Siri
Very truly yours,
other concerns include the actuar need for more commerciar sit.esin this area and the vagueness of Lhe proposal itself. Withvacant retaiL space directly accross the highway in Shorewoodshopping center, and vacant orrice space in ihe newest commercialdevelopment. closest to the subject property, I cannot perceivethe projected success of this propoiea' devE ropment. ihese vacancies:"S9!:! an adequate zoning for comrnercial devllopment in the area.In addition, the proposal is very vague concernii-rg rvtrai tyfes ofbusiness would actualty be built on ihe site. coibined ,iin tn.foregoing issues, a moie detaired plan concerning specific use wourdseem reasonable.
CITY OF CHANHASSEI'J
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commission meeti,ng where the above referenced commerciar developrnentwas discussed. As a property owner in the vicinity, I have severalconcerns with this proposal.
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I"ly primary concern is the proposed access to the subject propertydirectLy off Trunk Highway 7. The intersection curr6ntry'rris aheavy traffic f1ow. r experience problems at this inteisectionon a daily basis when commuting to lnd from r,rork. The left turniane on the wesrbouncl side of Highway 7 frequently backs uf intothe ongoing traffic l-ane caus i ng - con-ges tion -and p6tenti.al hangerto_those continuing r^restward on Highway 7. approving anotherleft turn off of the highway would-ceriainly tompounl an already
s ituation.
r strong.I-y urge you and the rest of the city councir to evaluate thepotential _advantages in light of the apparent disadvantages of thisproposod development. At the very 1eali, resid.ents in tie area shouldbe provided with a more d.etaired |rospectus of the proposed deveropment.
Thank you for your tj-me and consideration-
Trudi Fischer Me Ioche
May 23, 1985
Trudi Fischer Meloche
632I Fir Tree Avenue
Chanhassen, l,linnesota
The Honorable Thomas Hamilton, Mayor of Chanhassen
Mayorrs Office
P.O. Box 147
Chanhassen, Minnesota
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' 'The other item is a waterlake to keep the grass gregoing in soon (Real grass
Char I i e") we need tl-s pum
man or an MHCC officer oveplease check especially ca
unitl next time
Louise Lehner
IqHCC President
pump used to obtain water from theen down at the beach. /rith the sod- not just weeds and ,,creeping
p. I-f you have been a beach itrair-r the past six to seven years,refully in your storage areas.
rf you find either of these items, prease contact Lrud (474-5797)or me ( 47 4-0723) r j.ghr alray.
Again thanks to aI1 those who have uorked so tirelessly onthe dock and beach, to those who have brought refreshm6ntsdown to the people working and to those wh6 have volunteeiedequipnent. It has been wonderful to see how so many p"opf-have responded to this community effort. Thanks tol io Lfrenly's who have mowed the east side of the main Heightsentryway. It looks much improved.
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City Manager
Clty of Chanhassen
7610 Laredo Drive
P. 0. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Reference:Southwest corner of ltwys. 41 and 7
ald the proposed Tomac DevelopmenE.
Dear Mr . Ashr,rorth:
As the "oLd tLmers" on the Councll are probably aware' the wagner
famlly has been active 1n corununlty affalrs 1n pasts yeals - and has lrorked
closely with the Councll in events lnvolvlng the Mlnnewashta residentLal comnunlty.
Due to my current employment and our own clan of future torch-bearers, ny wife
and I have been unable to attend recent Plannlng Commission and Council meetlngs
addressing thls years repeat of the saga of our corner of the world - Lhe
southwest corner of Hwys. 41 and 7 and the surroundi-ng Property. Nonethelesst
we are as concerned as those around us, and ask that you consider and enler
this and the attached correspondence into the "record" on our behal-f.
The attached correspondence offers our thoughts, and those of our
nelghbors, up here at the Northernmost limlts of your reign as council and I
see no need to repeat these concerns again in thls accompanying letter of
introductton. Because several of us will not be able to attend the upcoming
Juue 3, 1985 meeting we earnestly ask that you read the artached correspondence
prior to the meetlng. While we may not be bodily present, please recognize
we are as concerned as those around us.
I am somewhat 1n awe that thls subject ls even on y.our agenda, Accordlng to
your own staff report "on July 11, 1983, .the City Councll consldered" an
appllcatlon to amend the CoEprehenslve Plan from Low DensiEy Residentlal to
CommercLal and "denied the request statlng that the coomerclal use lras too
extreme of a change and the Cornprehenslve Plan should be fo11oweil." The 1983
appllcation for commercial deveLopment totaled 4.5 aeres. The 1985 aPPlicatlon
now tota16 8.5 aeres, again all conmercial?
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CITY OF CHANHASSEII
2511 Orchard Lane
Excelsior, MN 55 331
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The Planning ComrlssLon is now forwarding this matter back to you
(passing the buck?) with a split vote on thelr Part. Is not a sPlit vote
a position of neutrallty, and is not a posltlon of neutrallty a vote to leave
thlngs as they currently are - more speclflcally R-1.
Please excuse my abaence the evening of Jlme 3. I truly wlsh I could
attend your meetlng to personally visit with eaih of you. Unfortunately
currert employment in Bloomlngton, Illlnols makes that unfeaslble. But'
the fact that even though I conmute to l1llnois to work, Ire Prefer to
reslde in our Minnesota home should speak for ltself. We love it herel
we ask that you support our decision Monday nlght and vote to keep our
comunlty lntact.
Vote R-1:
Slncerely,
Robert I-. Wagner
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Miss Barbara Dacy
Clty Planoer
City of Chanhassen
P. O- Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
Dear Mi-ss Dacy:
Thank you for the ti.ne and interest displayed last Friday, the 17th of May.
As ve reviewed, I have been unable Eo attend Ehis years discussions regarding
rezoning requests for the Southrrest corner of Highvays 7 and 41 due Eo my
employEent, but have none the less followed developments cIose1y. Becauseof my ilrability to attend the PlanniDg Comnlssion Meeting on May 22nd, I ask
that you enEer this correspotrdence lDto lhe "record" on ny behalf.
First, I want Eo enter an appeal in response to the Planning Staffs
recorDendation that the Planni-ug Corumission adopt a moEion approving rezoning
the Southwest corner of Elghlrays 7 and 41 to commercial. When the Planning
Slaff revlewed the background of this corner, it should have been obvious
that duly appointed comj-sslon uembers have in the past reacted posi.tively to
the wishes of the people whom lt represented, the homeolroers of Chanhassen,
when they "recomnend denial to catagorize the parcel as cormercial." I
challenge the plannilg staff to thoroughly research the consequences, short
and long tern, to rezonjng this 1and.
1. The envlronmental integrity of the Minnewashta lakeside
residentlal coflmunj.ty,
Z. The fuEure value of property to the hoDeowners in the
vicinity of oriole aad 64th SEreet,
3. Ihe precedent established as a resulE, lrhether intenEional
or noE lowards future rezoning requesEs etroding more R-l
access Eo Ehe East, South and l{est of the property in quesEion,
4. The effect to the proposed Minnewashta Park directly Sourh and
West of Ehe property and the conflict of traffic and Ehe re-
sulting danger to children in the area.
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development plans, and that areas exist where good business partners can
co-exist \rith Ehe cormnunity. I also suggesE, as a businessman myself chat
a reputable grorrth oriented developer would prefer such an area in which it
could suppor! and promot.e itself and Ehe comnuniEy.
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Let's keep the currenE integrity we have in the Minnewashta area. The Cityfathers have a fantastic lakeside conrnunity developing to Ehe North of
chanhassen, residential in nature and supported by a beautiful park develop-mect. Don't lose this long t.erm poteEEial now.
second, r want to point out Ehat since a rezoning request was last denied onJuly 11, 1983 residential development has in fact blossomed on surroundingproperty. Three homes have been built and occupi.ed increasing the homes
along 0riole and 54th Stleet by 432, from 7 to 10. These are all ,'young,,
couples with young children now or with families Eo be expected in fuEureyears. These homes are Ehe most important investment in Eheir lives, purchased
\^,ith thoughls of quiet residential sEreeEs,and semi-privat.e residential parks
increasing property values over the years. Keep this integrity. LeE this
conmunity continue to grow and prosper as a residential area. you mighE also
note that these homes are closer Eo Eighway 7 than the property in questionin general. The area in question can develop as R-1 if the orner and the
developer, or another developer, will seriously comit Eo such a developuent.
Third, I wanE ro dwel1 on your corunents as City ?lanner, when you Friday,
May 17th staEed that you didn'E feel Ehe property on Ehe Southeast cornerof 7 aud 41 was suitable for cornmercial development. If so, it seems Eo methat this seriously undermines the value of rezoning the Southwest corner Eo
corunercial?
Fourth, is che discussion of "ingress and egress" to the subject property.
Minnewashta residents are adameot in cheir position that Ehe current home on
0riole and subject to rezoning remain R-1 and that to do otherwise sets Ehe
precedent for strip zoning wesEward along Highway 7. They do noE \.rant Oriole
to be reposiEioned Eo connecE Eo Ehe Tomac Developoent. This shether intentional
or not allor.rs corunercial traffic (should the property be rezoned) to enter a
developing residencial conununity and semi-private residential park area--an
area which will draw many young conununiEy children. MnDOT has stated that if
64Eh Street is closed they would approve another entrance Eo Ehe Tomac
DevelopmenE off of Highway 41 as long as it is "at least 600r South of Highway
I feel this is appropriate. You have stated thaE you do not feel one
enErance is adequate, and Lhat ingress and egress is necessary. If this is so
how can the City develop a mulEi-acre conmunity park further South on Highway 41
\rith only one enErance? If this is good enough for a mulEi-acre park with
substantial traffic flow it should be good enough for an 8-acre deveLopment
area, lrheEher iE be R-I or oEherwise? I feel ORIOLE should be left as is, a
new entrance be planned on 41 for the Tomac Development and Ehe 64th Street
enrrance onto l{ighway 41 closed. The 64Eh street t.raffic way would then
become a eul-de-sac allowing for residential development to Ehe South with
traffic flow back onto l{ighway 7.
Fifth, regards lhe Tomac proposal directly. There are several rezoning
possibilities other Ehan Ehat requested by i(r. Todd Thompson and subsequently
recorurnended by the Planning Staff. In order of priority co Ehe corcuruniEy,
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Keep al,l of ORIOLE and all property East of the property
owners on Oriole and to ths North of 64th SEreet R-l and
rezone Ehe reuainder of the property along liighway 7 and
41 to C-1 only,
Rezone Ehe properEy all C-l , except the properEy at 64ZL
Oriole which should rerrain R-l,
itrs workable and by far \rhat Ehe courounity
alternatives are even \rorthy of consideration, and that
both workable solutions. While number 3 may be an
an optium solution to surrounding property owners.
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the conmuniEy, if they must compromise, would approve alternative 2 above.
Alternative 2 preserves the R-l zoning on 41 South of the property in question
on EhaE property South of 64Eh Street and olt thaE property to the West on
Highway 7. IE keeps Eraffic flow to a uinimum and puts Ehe property to ao
equitable use alloving Mr, Reutiman a return on his investment. Mr. Reutinan
can take advantage of Ehe 17,000 cars per day which pass Ehrough the Highway 7
and 41 interchange and Ehe coumunity can buffer themselves from fuEure rezoning
request.s because of Ehe Tomac DevelopEent.
In summary,in Ehe besE inEerests of the comunity and as a concerned and
responsible MinnewashEa resident, I ask that the Planning staff and Planaing
Comission consider strongly maintaining R-l zoning, but if Ehis is not
acceptable, then a compromise posirion, rezoning the property R-l and C-1
as outlined in this letter. THIS IS AN EQUITABLE SOLUTIoN T0 A CoMMIJNITY
PROBLEM.
Again, thank you for your Eiure and thoughEs May l7th.
Sincerely,
Robert L. l,Iagner
2511 Orchard Lane
Excelsior, MN
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consequences. June 25, 1980 (Exhibi
lntentions to meet Ehe plan submitte
paragraph 2 of that letter, On 5/30I call your attention Eo iten l and
1/L8/80 (Exhibit 8), Bob Waibel noti
the Council for revies.
) Baltic notifled Bob l,Iaibel of rheir
or landscaping. I call your aEtention to(Exhibit 7), Bob Waibel answerad Balric.
item 5 was never coEpleted either) , On
d us that this iren would again coue before
Dear Miss Dacy:
Durlng.ray vlslt to your office, Friday, laay 17th we briefly discussed EheCernak/Baltic property and the neighborhoods dlsappoiatment ln the finallandscaping vs, t.he orlglnal city intentions.
You pointed out Ehat we needn't worry, that 1f rezoning were approved and the
Tomac development rrere to proceed monies rnould be held in escror^r to insuresite development would meet conditi.ons as set forth by the city. please notethaE monies were also set asj.de for t.he Baltic properEy, but the City plan wasnever followed aor completed.
Please note Exhi.bit 1 dated 6/27/79. It rras with this letter that we, theimnediate neighbors, sided with the co'nci1 in suppolt of Ehe Non-coniormlnguse Pe',.it for Ehe Balric corporatio.. soon thereafter July 16, 1979 pernltwas issued. Sectlon 3, Subparagraph 1-a) stated thaE ',in addition Eo ihelnstallation of the landscaping set forth itr Exhibit A herein, Kreslins andBaltic sha11 install and properly Eaintain, replaciag as necessary, plantingsalong the south ProPerty lines of Ehe prenises Eo screen the preuisei as efiectivelyas possible frols the view of residenEial si-tes and streeE traffic lying Southerlyof the preni.ses. A11 sueh plantings sha1l be as recomended by t.he ciiy Foresterand approved by the Counci,1. Said plantings may be placed within ghe srreerright-of-way with Ehe approval of the city street MaineEnance Department.,' Ratherthan lnclude a copy of Ehjs permit, I leave it to your opti.on to pul1 it fronthe City files.
One year later the landscaping had stil1 noE been completed. please noceExhibir 2 dated L/5/80, on 5/L6lgo (Exhibit 3) Bob waibel - your predecessor?notlfied Don Ashworth of a screening plan narrative reconunended by the city TreeInspector. You will nole ir was never compleEed. On S/ZL/8O (Exhibit 4) Bobwaibel notified the clty Attorney, Russ Larson, of the nany items not conforming
Eo the 1979 perEit. I call your attention to items two and eight. Ol 5/ZB/8O(Exhlblt 5) Russ Larson notified Baltic of their failure to eomply and ther5
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City of Chanhassen
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Followi.ng that Council neetiag, we oa 8/8/80 forwarded to Mr. Jobn Neveaux
(Cor:nci1 meuber) an acceptable screening plaD Eo Ery and get the whole messoff dead center. Thi.s is Exhibit t herein. On Septeober f4, 1980, Bill Monk
forwarded to the City Attorney cosE estfuates Eo complete the landscaping(Exhibit l0). Attached to this cost esti.Eate was a copy of the plao for laadscaping.
Oa 9/29/80 (Exhibit 11), Don Ashworth advised us thar our plan had been forward.ed,to the City attorneyrs offlce and that "lt Ls the responsibility of the attorneyto take whalever 1ega1 steps necessary to cause compli.ance by BalEic Corporation."
I{e went on to note that 'tit is my understanding Ehat the Cityts plaati-ng re-
quirenents are specific, i.e., the City Council did approve an overall landscapeplan..." Now, I ask you, Barb, where is the landscaping? Where was the
eoforcement of the perni.t ? So much for 1980.
Ol 5122/8L (Exhlb it 12) we wrote the Clty Artoroey asking Ehe srarus of rhe perEj.E,
polnting out that the pemit had been lssued almosr TWo YEARS EARTIER and rhat
Balt1c had yet to conform to the perEit. On 5/27/8L the Tree Inspector, Doug
Mitche11, again noted several of the discrepencies (Exhlbit 13). 0n 6/7/8L(Exhibit 14) Baltlc was again notified Ehat "the bulk of the r.ro rk required under
the peroit had not been done."
I could go on and on. When Baltic applied for a non-conforning use permiE, the
resideats santed to force the area to residential as zoned. The Planning Stafffelt it should be rezoned cormercial. The Conmission felt Baltic would coueln as a successful commercial enterprj-se and j,ts apparent what happened.
TOMAC is ITNPR0OVEN wit.h N0 experience. Why shouldo't we be apprehensive? Why
should we tnrst that landscapiog wiLl, be as proposed in aa applicaE ion.
why dldn't Ehe Clty fo11ow through oE its own to develop the screeoi[g b ehi.nd EheBaltic property? After all we supported the City. Has the City truly supportedits resj-dential community?
You made menti.on Frlday, the lTth that maybe you should revier., the Baltic property
and perniE. Irve tried to give you the facEs. I hope this letter provides you
Lrith a belte! inslght into the hours and hours this neighborhood has had to
spend to preserve its integrlty, and of the failures when it compromised with the
Planning Comlssion.
Sincerely,
Robert L. Wagner
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Chanhassen City Council
Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317
Reference:
GentLemen:
As the most immediate neighbors to thehave been vitally concerned with bothproposed. future use of the property.
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Proposed Non-Conformi.ng Use permit, City of
Chanhassen with Baltic Corporation et a1 , con-cerning development and use of lots 1 and 2,
Minnewashta Park addition (Cermak Nursery property)
Cermak property, wethe past abuses and
We remain apprehensive about any commercialprecedent setting standpoint and the impactspread of cornmercial activities in the area.
usage from a
on possible future
(From a practical standpoint, however, we have looked at allthe alternatives to the proposed use permit, includingexpensive and probably painful litigation, and hEve come tothe conclusion that a sensible agreement of lhe kind proposedis probably the most intelligent compromise available, withone very emphatic objection concerning worCing of the proposed.
a9reement.
Under Section 3, "Permit and Cond.itions, " paragraph 14 conclui.eswj.th the clause "which consent shal1 not be unieaionablywithhelC". We believe that this implies unnecessary restrainton the actions of the City Council j.n considering leasingactions proposed by Baltic Corporation, and that further inany event Baltic Corporation would always have recourse tothe courts for any City Council action that miqht be deemedunreasonable by Baltic. We then would like to request thatthis concluding clause of paragraph 14, be struck from theagreement.
Also, before finalization we would like to have inclucied in theproposed landscape plan plantings, preferably evergreen, alongthe south side of the property to the western boundary withsufficient height and density to provide an effective andattractive visual screen with the prime consideration beingesthetics.
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In addition, and this has been previousJ-y discussed, the
driveway in the proposed site plan should be moved back to
the location of the existing drive into the Cermak property.
The location as proposed in the site plan we feel is completely
unacceptable both from a traff,ic flow standpoint, and most
funportantly from a safety standpoint, because of the rathersharply crowned hi1l.
We appreciate very much the time and effort that the Council
and others have put into this sometimes sticky situation and
would like to particularly express our appreciation for theCouncil's action in very wisely rejecting the proposed
rezoning from the present R-1.
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Barbara A. wagner
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ROBERT L. WAGNER
2511 Orchard Lane
Excelsior, MN. 55331
January 5, 1980
Chanhassen Clty Councll
Chanhassen, llinnesota 55317
REIERENCE :Non-Conforoing Use Permit, City of Chanhassen$ith Baltic Corporation
Dear Couocil Menbers:
;,/e are the nost imediate neighbors to the South of Ehe Baltic property.
We wanE to congratulate Mr. Earry Kreslins and the Baltic Corporati.on ontheir eff,orts to daEe, and point ouE to Ehe Council that BalEic, has infact, beeo a good nej.ghbor.
The Couneil will recall lre were of the minority of concerned, MlnnewashEa
area residenEs who supported t.he Council and Baltic prior to the July 2,
1979 Cotmcil neeting when Baltic received Ehe final go-ahead to convercthe Cermak nursery slte to a professlonal building. Our June 27, 1979Ietter is attached for further reference.
I{e, Ehe most i.mediate neighbors gave our support provided certain conditionswere me! by Baltic and tbat these conditions were wrilten into the Non-
Conforming Use PerEit. The agreement (pJdL 7 /L6179) was written incorporating
our recommendations, one of which concerned landscaping and specifically
screening along the southern property line.
ionight, as stated in your agenda, your di,scussion is linited to reviewing Ehelandscaping pJ-an. Therefore, we will liait our corments to this area. secEi.on3, sub paragraph La states that in additioo to randscaping setforth in ExhibitA, planEings will be required along the souEh property line to screen EhepreEises froE Ehe residentlal sites. "PJ-antlngs shalI be as recotrmended by
Ehe Clty Forester and approved by the Comcil." We ask that the Council does
approve Ehe Clty Forester reco@endaElons this date. t{e antici.paEe Councildiscussion reference possible drifEing of snow and feel this Eo be a nininalprobleu, if a problen at all. We recognize that there will always be a tradeoff of naintenarlce vs. scenic restoration and feel the trade off here to be agreat plus Eowards year round screenj-ng of the Baltic premises. l.le also
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We note the January 7, 1980 Chanhassen City Cormcil agenda lncludes a reviewof the Baltlc Corporatioo Landscaping Plan. Unfortunately, lre are unable Eoattend thi.s meeting and ask Ehat this correspondence be entered inEo Ehe
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recognj,ze that this screeDing ls an additional cost to Baltlc. It should
be noted, however, that Ehis rras a condition of the Srantlng of the PerIdt
and it should be enforced, along rri. Eh those stipulations lncluded ln
Exhibit A prior to grating of the Non-Conformlng Use Perait.
we thank the Council Eenbers for thelr attentlveness to the resideoEs of
their connunlty and lre conrmend Baltlc Corporation for their genuj.tre efforts
to become a good neighbor, and a respecEed commrnity rnerober.
S j.rcerely yours,
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7610 LABEDO DBIVE.P.O. BOX 147.CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 553.17
(612) 474-8885
MEI4ORANDU}I
DATE: May 15, 1980
tO: City Manager, Don Ashworth
FROM: Land Use Coordinator, Bob Waibel
SUBJ: Ba1tic Landscape Plan
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by the City free Inspector- The applicant has indicated to me
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fO: Land Use Coordi.nator, Bob waibel
fRoM: City Tree Inspector, Doug Mitchell
DATE: April 10, 1980
SUBJ: Baltic Screening Plan
GENERAL DESCRIPT rON OF PLANTING PLAN
PLANT LIST
QUANTITY SPECIES )
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Screen planting to occur for approximately 208' beginning 14'
east. of properiy corner stakes ind-progressing eastward from that
point. itr'e- western one-half generalJ-y consi-sts of two rows of
ii.ni ."t"tia1s; the back (noith) row- consisting of Black llills-sp.r"., the front row (south) being Zebel's Iloneysuckle ' - The
"ist"rn one-half generally consj-sti of a double row of Zabel's
Honeysuckle
rhe planting wiJ.J. reguire the complete removal (crown and root
ivst-em) of ihe """o.,d apple tree east of the corner marker' rn
;aeiai;";-" roam riii *iy u" required in some of the areas adjacenr
to the retaining vrall to allow planting to occur'
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1. A11 plant materiaLs shal.J. be guaranteed true to species and
be free from any disease or bli-ght-
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after planting.
4. A11 plant materials shal1 be watered thoroughly at regular
interval! (7-10 ciays) during the growing season for one year from
date of planting (evergreens shalJ- be watered until the ground'
freezes ilr the faIl).
5. Planting sha1I be done according to d,rawings provided by the City
(only trees shall be stakecl) .
6. Exact locations of plant materials shaIl be stakeil in-the-field
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TO: City AttorneY, Russell Larson
FROM: Cj.ty Land, Use Coordinator, Bob rlailel
DATE: MaY 21, 1980
SUBJ: Baltic CorPoration Punch List
PLAIiINING CASE: P-619
In response to our phone conversaiion of the other day' I have made
i" i"=ie"tion of tha Baltic of f j-ce'building site and report the
fol1owing items_as needing to be.tompleted and/or adminj-strated. in
oia"t io"""tisfy the non-ionforming use permit between Bal-.-ic and
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1) . Final grooming of the proper--y, I
debris PresentlY on the site'
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removal- of incidenta].
Comptetion of the landscape plan-with. the proposed
,i*".ra*".,t= by the city roiesier for the southerly screening'
Final approval of lighting ptan by the City Engineer and
;i;;-";;;;.r"i uy the-sien-commltfEe- (rt is mv feelins that
t[3 ""i'=i1"9 si-gn that ias used by cermak should be
i".oV"a.:'itt: iieu: of the' sign that was shown on the plans
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Completio;. of the driveway and. parking area':' an
accordance with secii"" e'"r thl non-corid6i*ittg lr="
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Screening of roof top niechanical eguipment'
Removal of the dur-npster fresently on the property (The
norr-"o.rf orrning use- permit maintains that all storage
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conforming use permit t"qoitlt that Baltic shaJ.l furnish
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to the City a surety bond that will provide for the
completi,on of the landscaping plan. I bel-ieve that in
addition to the installation of the landscape materials,
sufficient monies should be set aside for the..payment of
labor to assure that the landscape materials will survive
the needed arnount of time to be self sufficient-
if you need any further clarification on the items on thisContact melist.
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Gentlemen:
Pai.lure topreviously
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ATTORNEYS AT LAW
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MINNEAPOLtS, MTNNESOTA 554Oa
MaY 28, 1980
Reference is made to our letter of May 28, 1980. a copy of *hichis attached, relative to requirements of the Non-Confoining Use
!"Iri! of_August !0, L979, which must be complied lrith by lou byiluly 1, 1980.
In addition to the six iterns of work set forth in said letteryou-wil1 be reguired. to connect the premises to the muni.cipalsanJ-tary sewer system by JuIy 1, 1980.
{comply with this requirement and thelisted r.ri1I result in the action set
May 28, 1980.
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Chanhassen City Attorney
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Don Ashworth' Bob Waibel
Transamerican Insurance Company
Claims Service Office
5100 Edina lndustrial BlvdEdina MN 55435
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The Baltic CorPoration
2540 Orchard, Lane
Excelsior MN 55 331
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May 28, 1980
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Completion of the J.andscaping accorAing to the
plan as approved by the City Council on January 7.
i980, "= iupplemenled by the City Foresterrs
Screening Piin Report of april 10, 1980;
Submission of signage and exterior lighting plans
for City Council aPProval ;
coinpletion of drivevay ancl parking area in accor-
danie with Section 3(8) of the Permit,
Screening of rooftop mechanical equiPment in
iccordan6e with Seclion 3(9) of the permit;
Removal of the dumPster presently on the proPerty'
The pernit requires that all storage shall- be
confined erithin the existing structure.
The chanhassen city cor:ncj.I has directed me to inform you that
itre ioffowing listld reguirements of the Non-Conforming Use Permit
of August LO; Lg'19 must be complied with by you not late! than
July )., 1980:
Final grooming of the ProPertY,al.l debris presentlY on the sit
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Dear Bob:
Ihis is to sumnarize our progress on
May 28th letter from Russell Larson.
the ord.er listed ia his letter:
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the grooning process ls ln progress at this point and
will-be accomplished pri.or to the July 1st deadline.
lfe have located the honeysuckle bushes and wj-lL1 p1a$
thero accord5.ng to the p1a:r subroitted by Doqg-Mitchell.
We are havi-ng-sone protlen locati.ng Black lli11 spnrce
ia suJfici.ent quantities, hoveverr we have located
Colorado spnrce which ar6 slightly nore expeas-ive but
should be Lt least as effective as the Black Hil1s
spruce. We would 1.ike to have sone rrrlltg on that- -pioposat-. fn the i:aterim, the non-conformiag qlecla-l .
use pernit l::dj-cates that'the City is to.stake the 1o-
cation of the spt:uce trees which has to be done by.
someone fron the City j:e the very near futtre
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As to the geaeral. landscaping of the grass areasr we
antiiipate:some'difficulties with the land in front of
the bull-ding fac;ng highway / as George Ceruak steri-
.-1ized the soi1, unl<nown to us, which means we are going'
to.have to do ioroe fair).y extensive excavating of the
..topsoi1 which is now basically cl.ay and rock and re- l
blace with black dirt. It a1so means re:doing the
i'-L[ghti.g si.ri n€ underground in front of the building asi'lt;is t5o near-the suiface. Because of this we wi].]-
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deadline on tha-!ra1re no poss ibiJ-ity of conpl eting' the plan in ti-ne fort portion of the ProPertY.
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"n'd "a. advised' tGi ni-woul-d' let back to me once he
. had ti-oe to review it.
4j fne drlveray is cou;lleted' but tbere ls some conf^u-sion:: a-j-to tU" pirfrf"s-"iJa as there were t,do sets of, plaas
1: G exrstente wrr# ,-.-*"tE ;;l'kitg on this and apparently
, .i ti"-i-iri#;-h";-;";-s.ior p}?qs-a!d the contracto.r has
-::ij,ij'a differeat set.--Th.-U"siid.ifference appears to be tha
,,.: iratu oi. trre parfiry area which, -because of nuoerous
; ;;;;""r- cutbicksle do not ne6d as many parkj-ng spaces
r,"-'I!'iIE"E i.a-G'tne past, and- would ask that we can
;.ll iI""i fi;-p;niG i.i -.i-:.i vith the possibil-itv of ex-
1..: iliii"i i#;;ki"c 1ot if th9 sPace ls needed'
St;l 'n " sqr;g',i',g of 'tire roof-top-nechanlcal gquiPEeII! is
,i,,,; coorEocfurg J;ne'Zgtil,-igAO aid should be done well in
-,rt-' -----rEn" ]orv-i=1 a6iafi".. This barrier will be
::' " 5 reet off the ;'".f-;A-;,-urery anchored to the air-,-'l.loiiiii.;;d-;y;i;o ana wi.11 be- stained wlttr colors
r,,: ;;;hing-tirE eil'istine building'
6. In the ori.ginal contact, p^?raqraP}.r. 11 indicates that-.,Gri-"t.r"EE =rr"ii o;-ti"rtned vitnirrthe existing
,,,i, "ii].Lli;;:- it-G tot o'" interpretation that this
i:-i ;;u1d-in.r,rau " i,-i=i." tt i ao not interpret a dump-
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i:ll i.d-;[;-;h";;i;;, reer this request would be unreason-
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::. uP who has indicated he will be vorking with
'.engiDeers to comp1.ete this P rocess. !1r. Su]1
: cated he c ou].d start work tbe week of . .Tr.rne JO
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Mr. Lon Holte
Ba1tic Corporation
2540 orchard LaneExcelsior, MN 55331
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.In response to your letter of .f1ft9 25 t i.980, I have the fol1.owing
conEnents: ,it A;fl li1). with regard to your que'5tic;n- on the substitution of
Colorado spruce for tha B1ackhill SP):uce, the Ciiy
Forester, Doug rrlitchel.L has indicated that based upon
recent purqhases, the tBlackhills variety is ger:eralIy
available. Additionally, he has statecl the reason for
his recommendation .9f the Blacthill Spruce as follorvs;
a) the species doeJ well near Eighwa)' or street conditions.
b) it is more totdiant of dif f ei.ent soil types (to our
knowledge there.iis no detailed dbils informati-on available
for thi! area).,!'c) it is more conipact in size thall other
evergreen sp-edies and due to thelbompact area in rvh ich the
screening::d'i reconmended, the Blackhills Spruce u'ould
be morei.:dls irable,.-..d I . it- is^more'.idrouqh t res isten t,
e) thij'srabuiilr --siieaies aqEs'66tt-eji and rema ins f u}ler,
fi t}6eEior+th'.i3r.'irnalfbr-.and-"fi6ri=',de-iise;:+E:.tiiE-tBtackhills
fras m6i{--longevity, h) it is less susceptib]e}-;tb rvirtter
browninsenanr{1.,.9;1i:i="",,:"yil?=?n*p,F*"
2) - As to the question abouE Ur..e'-aif ticulty of completing
. landscaping work in the area where the soil r''a s steriJ.ized,
I can oirly-state that I 'l'mr-rst take this under ttre advisement
with the eity Attorney 'iiince it does involwe the ext'ens5.on
of a set deadline-
Mark Koegler has jldicated that he has scheduled a review
of your iign perrnit application on July 10, I98O' A copy
of -the sign Conrnittee igenda for that rewiew rvi1l be
forwarded to you prior to tl.e meeting- '1-
4).In reviewing your site plans with reference to your' question
on the parXing area, I find that the plans approved by the
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City CounciL were of a design to meet the parkilrg formula
for office buildings. rn line with this, the pa::king J.ot
should be developed as per those approved pl.rns.
As per our telephone conversation of Lhis day, .t rvoul<1
expect that the use of a.dumpster at the subjc:ct- Prope!:t-y'would include a screening proposal- Such screenirtg is' commonly provided for: rvit}
either redwood type fence enclosures , artd/or br: j.<:k
enclosures. As Ilke item 2, of the above, this will, harre
to be takerr under advisemeil-Eith U1e City Attorneyrs officein t].at it does apparently exceed the deadlines-
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If you have any questions or comments on the above, pl.ease (io Dothesitate to contact me-
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2521 orchard LaneExcelsior, MN 55331
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Enclosure
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Councilman John Neveaux has requested that I send you copies of
the attached recent correspondence regarding the completion of
the requirements of the Baltic Non-Conforniing Use Permit for
your records .
AIso, this letter is to inform you that the City Council will be
discussing this matter, including the completion of the requirements,
progress 5n the lega1 action against the Baltic surety and the surviv-
ability of the landscape materials if planted at this time of year
at 7:30 p.m- at the City Council meeting of July 21, 1980. Your
attendance and colEnents are invited.
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lle appreciate your concern and attention tothat have arisen.the groblern ( s )
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In the apparent absence of any concrete agreed upon planfor the portion of the Baltic property inunediately infront of ours, tsob i{agr:ler and f have undertaken a mini-surveyand dra',m up a 'p1an tilat reflects our thought,s as to i,rhatwe would like to see accomplisired.
The existing fence on Bob l.Iagrerr s property has beensketched in for reference purposes, but it should beenphasized that this fence uas intenCed to be only tenporaryand will be rernoved when adequate landscaping is accomplishEdon the facing property.
rle wo'l1d be very interested in any cc:i'rents you ni3irt irave.
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Ba]tlc Cost Estimates
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councilman John Neveaux forwarded to me your letter regardi-ng screeningrequirements along the Baltic property. I am forwarding thii tothe City Attorney's off j-ce. It is the responsibility oi theAttorney to take vrhatever 1ega1 steps are necessary to causecomplianee by Baltj-c Corporation. It. is my understanding that the
91!y'" planting requirements are specj.f j-c, i.e. the City Councildid approve an overall landscape p1an. Based on conceris of adjacentproperty owners, the City Forester,s office was requested to prepareoptions providing additional screening adjacent to the street. Theseoptions were presented to the ci.ty counci.l with the council specificallychoosing one of those alternates and Balti.c being advised of iuch.There appeared to be a question as to whether saltic was then requiredto resubmit the orlgi_nal plan, plus amending such for the option,or not. However, in either case, it would appear as though theCity has approved the landscaping plan for tirl Baltic Corioration.
Assuming the above comments are correct, the City Attorney's office
lay !e unwilling to jeopardize his position j-n a potentiai courthearing by now interjecti-ng an addilional landscaping plan. I leavethis question to the City Attorney's of f i.ce ana wi1:.-aisume thathe will respond to you in regards- to such.
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Noo-Coaforming Use PerEl t
Cl.ty of Chauhas s en
Please advise o[ Ehe status on the enclosed. documents,
aad actloo la t.he Carver CouDty DlsEllct Court by the
Clty of Chaahassen agaiD.st Baltlc Corporatiotr.
You w111 reca11 that the perDlt iD. questlon was lssued Lu
July of 1979, revlewed ln Jaauary of 1980, and thar
Baltlc st1l1 does aot coaform to the perDit gratrted.
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Excelsior, }{o.55331
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ETATS ATTIDTTG C!DE, FDIRL AEPIrON:
oeJ.eced rron @
ltr-is itgri r,as p:b).i shed ard suhsequently
srte Ld-r--r- be ciirectJy south of the city rau lroperty. Ttris area vas ern,isio:red{F=::::ffi :Hts4:l&ir"H+:i,*x,r=l*n#'*,*: ;ffi :,proposed ci.tv harl,zr.ibrarv. rtre si.te ,a.u-alroti6"';;;;;'rffi'.i._*u.oqKerber Blvd' to clan vie"r' t* .o"a ,oi.u--JE-tionarry provide <lcress to the nei",ring road as a part of ttte d*mtoqn pr"". fi* plan considerations of the counci-Iincl,uded steet Lighttg, coiErete curb ard Cutigf, paved parki-rg areas, theapprod:iate 11,000 sotrare f=:.Ia:i+t, -ura'pu.Uti. irnprovanerrts _ a.ll of r,hichmeeErg uhe recd..sn&ts. ectablished bi'G-civ for other developnerrts r.,ittrinF" c,-g. specific actions *rd #.rrj-d;;ii-:r.iJ"ai"vsrv!4rs,,courEiLFan l,Ieveaux rpved to -a!prov" ii. p,:rJi.e agresnent for 1,roposcd sjEr=eetrisht of .*ay wirr-:_in oroposd si,r.,""ia.r pi.r.;;dr.#;-i;;;"-;rffi;:i
Sbc, o.i .5oard as refer=.a to G t citv o"r-s* I "-.L;?t of May_19, 1980, ar.,c as per tr*ptrchase agre€nerrt dated .,'ay ig, tg,o. .uo6o"-
""_rra-._: fry co._liilIr,. c*rirr,. lt*folioi,-,-r.9 i,-oted in favor: i,:,ayor Hobbs, Ci.r"ai:",* pearson, Neveaux, Gevirr,, arxiSwerson. No negative rrctes. tlction ;;iJ.-
BAtlfC CIRPORATT ON, IAMSCFPE PIAN RET.[EW:Terlns of tie cordi tj.ona.l. use. fcrtnit forth]s I,roperq,rqurres Jards c:FUtg to be crrnpleted by tlre oh/n(n-. As no represqltatit'c:.:of the corpora tion were pres ent tD discuss the statrrs of tfie l.arrisca-L,irg p1an,Corncilnan lJevear!< rEvef b irstruc t tfie City Attorney's office to I r-lrc the CiLy ]etal]. necFssa4/ clnE-acts to coqplete any raIEini-rg rork or ttre site arri to pay f(,rsuch via the firarci-.a I gnEran tees 5nsted Ly the developer.tbt 10n sc col(ied byCa:ncrLran Sv,erson.tre fo ilcrirtg voted ir favor:I{ayor Hobt,s, Coutrci ltren Peat's:trrt,Nevear.D<, GgrjJlg, ar):t Swenson. Ib negative votes.l4:tion carried.
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BrrLS: CourciJrraD ce\r'j.rg rry"d _to al{rrove uie bin< as presented: .recks f116g0tiroLsh *11.750 jn trre arpunt or Sf,bjz,Sa5.fi,'"f,""t" *.Aj3-U.,;;6l.i:g: l' tt.arount of S1I0,G43.17 y,g=F #1175i Urrou;h-#r.1792 i.n tr.il]nt,ur 369,5A3.64.trbtion secorded tv cour:cilnran pearson. rhe f6uoi.rfury ""t"a- in-i.ior,' *yo, Hoth",courrilmen Pearson, NevearD(, Geuirrg|, arg svre.nson. 1,b negative \Dtes. llction carried.
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Courcil::an NeveaE( ** p.:pl*re. t}le purchase agresflent for Iot 2, BIcEk I,of .he proposed scirneider aaai'ci"" -:." '*'rI?ii-t
-oe $45, S37.50 a'd as refcrred to1j1 the Ciry tranaqer.rs rffort of lra-V -fS, iS86l 3d u: per the purchase .rgresnenrcar-r ".6u, fS, fg8o. l,Io ion seconaed ry c"*li:""" pearson. ihe follo*,ing votedi.,., favor: I\,ayor
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councir'men p*i*", ilar"".r-x, Gevirg, ard swensoa. N.Jnegative votes. l4otion carrid.
L,:ncilan NevELl< nDved_ to approve the purchase :?:.91*1, for Lt I, Block l, ofprogosed Sclneider edditron in t,.,e arrr,rnt oi TA:,SO-2. SO ard as refe:ie.l to in tlreciq,.- yarager's report of taay L9 , I9g0; -and;=';
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by a,_"i,ili.n5.=".1: H:T:ir3:'&"ff i"s.r.rfavor: f4ayor riobbs, courciLnen i;;.;;l;*L,
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the above notion r.as nrade in recogriLion of the ,Letter of Ackrovrledqernart,,beh^rcen the srat€ ear* gr chrrr-"il;'iL;;ty;i-CI,,;;iru'ff',*" Le, 1e80.
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City Attorney, Russell H. LarsonTree Inspector, Doug Mitchellllay 27 , 19 81Baltic Corp.Screening Project
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An inspect j.on ofhas revealed thedescri-bed in the
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the south side of the Baltic property onfollowing differences from thl piantingApril 10, 1980 memorandum to eot waibei:
May
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Only 7 of the I0 Black Hil1s Spruce have been planted.Trro more were planned for the west end and, one more wasplanned for east of the spruce that have been planted.In addj.tion, one spruce has faj.led to survive.
The Black Hilts Spruce that have been planted are generallvslightly smaller than \rhat was suggestid.
An apple tree was not removed as suggested to allow forplanting of two spruce and thro- three -honeysuckLes near thesouthwest property corner.
At least 19 of the honeysuckles that were plantedZabel Honeysuckles as !{ere suggested on the plantThe 19 appear to be Tatarian Honeysuckle and haveidentified with orange ribbon.
are notIi.st.-
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A number of honeysuck-Les were not(See planting plan) .
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ATTORNEYS A7 LAW
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MtNNEAPOLtS, MTNNESOTA 55402
June 1, J.981
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RETURi'| RECEIPT REQUESTT
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The lialtic Corporation
2540 Orchard LaneExcelsior MN 5533f
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Re: City of Chanhassen v.Eary T. Kreslins, The Baltic Corporation andTransameri_ca fnsurance Company
Gentlemen:
on september 15, 1990, each of you were served, with the Summons and.( compraint in the above rawsuit ;hich invotves -yo,ri'-nJrr-.ornplianceL with t?re terms of the Non-conroi*i"9 use permit entered. into onAugust 10, 1929 for your use of the former a;;"i-;;;perty as yourbusiness office.. yoll bonding company, Transamerii. irr"rri.rr.., 6iip.rry , -was also served in this case.
Because of the r-ateness. gf tlg.planting season ind at your request "andthat of Transamerica, this offiie granf,ed to you in extension of timewi. t.in wh'ch to file your written answer to tire -.complai_n., relying onyour assurances that the work calred for under tt,. !.*ii'r;;ia-;: Io".._
Recent inspection of the premises discloses that there are seriousshorrcomings in your comg,iiance vrieh the ;;;;t. -ii-p.rti"o1ar,
werefer you to the forrowing specific plans ""a "i""iiilations: -
a) Roberts Architects Sit.e planr/Landscape planas revised May 25, L9]9 (Exhi.bit e oi the permit);
b) plant screenings as requi_red under Section 3,subsectj.on 1 of said permj.t (Baltic Screening plan,dated April Io, I9BO by city Tree Inspector) .
In addition; we refer you to the attached report, dated May 27, LggL,flom the City Tree Inspector to this office. l
As you wi]-l note from the above, the bulk of the work reguiredunder the permit has not been done- we rerer in particurar to theprantings, seeding and sodding, and aiiveway improvements requ5.red by
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site p.an,/landscape plan and the permit and the deficiencies inscreen planting as noted in Ehe City iree Inspectorrs report, of27, L98r. Additionalry, the au*p"ilr-rocated at the north sidethe parking area is to Le screen.i iio-'v'ew from orchard Lane.
Under these circumstances, demand.upon this office written lega1 answi.thin 10 days from the dat6 of ththis matter to your attorney immednecessary answer. If you fail tojudgment will be er:terid against y
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sunmons and complaintYou are urged to refer
Preparation of theh this demand, a defaulter County District Court.
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An inspect ionhas revealeddescribed in
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City Attorney, Russell H. LarsonTree_Inspector, Doug Mj.tchel llaay 27, 1981Baltic Corp. Screening project
of the south side of che Baltic property onche following differences from the plantingthe April I0, IggO memorandum to Bob Waibel:
Only 7 of the I0 Black_Hi1ls Spruce have been planted.T\,ro more were Dlannea for ine-i;;;-";;' and one more \"ra splanned fof east of the spruce afr.t-i'."" been planted.In addition. one spruce has failed to survive.
The BLack HiIIs Soruce that have been.planted are generallyslishrly smalLer in"n "i,ut-rl'='..il"Iiio.An apple tree was not removed as suggested t6 altow for..plantins of rwo sDruce i.a i""]Ir,,"-E riJn.y" r.k re s near rhesouthwest property corner.
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AC least 19 of the honeysuckles that were planted are notzabel Honeysuckles a: werg =uggu.ted. o^_anu plant listl_rhe te appear .o o"-I?.":i";-i;;;;;;.iiu .,,a have beenidentifiecl with orange rrbbon.
A number of honevsuckles were not planted as staked.(See planring plin)
The honeysuckLes are generally smaller ti-lan what was r:suggested in the plant lj,st.
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Miss Barbara Dacy
Clty Planner
City of Chanhassen
P. O. Box 147
Chanhassen, lrN 55 317
Dear Miss Dacy:
During.ny vlslt to your office, Friday, lfay 17th we briefly discussed theCermak/Baltic property and the neighborhoods disappolatEent in the finallandscaping vs. the origirral city intentions.
You pointed out that we needntt worry, that if rezonfug were approved and the
Tomac development were to proceed monles would be held in escrow to insuresite development would meet conditions as set forth by Ehe City. please notethat monies were also set aside for the Baltic property, but the City plan wasnever followed nor completed.
Please note Exhibit 1 dated 6/27/79. It rras roith this letter that rre, rhe
iumediate neighbors, sided with the Council in support of the Non-Conformilg
Use Permit for the Baltic Corporation. Soon thereafter July 16, 1979 permit
was issued. Section 3, Subparagraph 1-a) stated that I'in addition to theinstallat ion of the laodscaping set forth in Exhibit A herein, Kreslins andBaltic sha11 instaLl and properly Daintain, replacing as necessary, plantings
along the south property lines of the preuises to screen the premises as effectively
as possible from the view of residential sites and street traffic lying Southerlyof the premises. A11 such plantings sha11 be as recommended by the City Forester
and approved by the Council. Said plantings may be placed withln the streetright-of{ray uifh the approval of the City Street l"iainetnance Department.r' Rather
than include a copy of this permit, I leave it to your option to pull it froruthe City ftles.
May 20, 1985
One year later the landscaping had sti11 not been completed. Please noEe
Exhib ir 2 dared l/5180. on 5/16/80 (Exhibit 3) Bob WaibeL - your predecessor?
notified Don Ashworth of a screening plan narrative recormended by the City TreeInspector. You will note it lras never eompleted. On 5/2L/8O (Exhibit 4) Bob
llaibel notified the City Attorney, Russ Larson, of the many items not conformj.ugto the 1979 permit. I call your attenEion to items two and eight. On 5128/80(Exhibit 5) Russ l-arson notified Baltic of their failure to comply and the
consequences. June 25, 1980 (Exhibit 6) Baltic notified Bob Waibel of their
intentions to meet the plan submitted for landscaping. I call your attenti-on to
paragraph 2 of thax letter. On 6/30/80 (Exhibit 7), Bob Waibel answered Baltic.
I call your attention to iten 1 and 5 (item 5 was never conpleted either). On7ll8l8o (Exhibit 8), Bob waibel- notified us thaE this item would again come before
the Council for review.
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Following that Council meeting, we on 8/8/80 forwarded to Mr. JohD Neveaux(Cormcil member) an acceptable screenlng plan to try and get the whole messoff dead center. This is Exhibir t herein. On September 14, 1980, Bill Monkforwarded to the City Attorney cost estimates to cooplete the landscaping(Exhibit 10). Attached to this cost estimate was a copy of the plan ior landscaplng.h' 9l29l8o (Exhibit 11), Don Ashworrh advised us rhar oor pLan haa been forwardedto the city attorneyrs offi-ce and that "it ls the responsibility of the attorneyto take whatever lega1 steps necessary to cause compliance by Baltic corporation.,'
Ile went on to note that rrit ls my understanding that the Clty,s plantiag re-
quirements are speeiflc, i.e., the City Cormcil did approve an overall landscapeplaa..." Now, I ask you, Barb, rrhere is the landscaping? Where was the
enforcement of the pernit? So much for 1980.
Al 5/22187 (Exhibi.t 12) we wrote rhe City Artorney asking the starus of the permir,pointlng out that the pernit had been issued almost TI"IO YEARS EARLIER and thatBaltlc had yet to conform to the pernit. At 5/27/81 the Tree Inspector, Doug
Mitche11, again noted several of the discrepencies (Exhibit 13). on 6/1/91(Exhibit 14) Baltic was again notified that 'tthe bulk of Ehe work required. underthe permlt had not been done."
I could go on and on. I*teD Baltic applied for a non-conforning use permit, theresidents rranted to force the area to residential as zoned. The planning stafffelt it shourd be rezoned comercial. The comission felt Baltic would comeirr as a successful comercial enterprise and its apparent what happened.
TOMAC is ITNPR0OVEN with N0 experi.ence. why shouldnr t we be apprehensive? whyshould we trust that Ian-ttscaping will be as proposed in an appiicat ion.
I{hy ditlnrt the city forlow through on its o'rn to devel-op the screenlng behlnd theBaltic property? After all we supported the City. IIas the City truly supportedlts residential coDmunity?
You made aention rriday, the 17th that maybe you should review the Baltic propertyand permit. Irve tried to give you the facts, I hope this letter provides yourrith a better insight into the hours and hours this neighborhood hai hail tospend to preserve its integrity, and of the failures when lt cornpromlsed rgith thePlanntng Comisslon.
Sincerely,
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Minnesota Department of Transportalion
Transportation Building, St. Paul, MN 55155
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March 13, 19 85
Todd Thompson
Tomac Development
5000 ChasLea Road
Excelsior, Minnesota 5533r-
Dear Mr. Thompson:
response to your March 5, 1985 telephone request for 1984
.D.T. (Average Annual Daily Traffic) at the junction of
.7 and T.H.41 within the city of Minnetonka, we submit
following:
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41 south of T. ri . 7
7 west of T.H. 41
7 east of T.H. 41
84 A.A.D.T.
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15,200
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CIIY OT CHANHASSEN
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N()MMUNITY DEYELOPMENT
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l{1ss Barbsra Dacy
Clty Pl.anner
Clty of Chanhasgen
P. O. Box 147
ChanhasEen, l'tN 55317
Dear l'llss Dacy:
Thls is r.rlth regard to the proposed rezonlng of the
southtrest corner of H$rys 7 and 4L fron R-1 to C-1 and C-2 asproposed by Todd Thonpson of Tonac Developnent.
The prlne Justtflcatlon for the rezonlng requeat has beenthat the trafflc flou past the intersectlon ia too hlgh forsucces,sful, developnent as elther slngle fanily or nedl.unden.slty residentlal.
In fact the actual figures for A.A.DDalIy Traffic) for 1984, ag supplLed
f oI Iotrs:
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l'lnDOT are asBy
These are also the exact flguresby I'lnDOT 1n a letter dated l,larchG. Gerber, l{anager, Traffic Data
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By sinultaneous equatlons it is slnple to extrapolate thisdata to derive that approximately a total of 11,OOO cars perday ln 1984 noved gtralght through on Ht.,y 7 eaet and rrest,ehile approxlnately IrOOO turned to or fron Hey 7 rreet at41, and approxlnately 5,OOO turned to or fron Hwy 7 eaet at41.
In aupport of that ergunent l'lr. Thonpson haa clted trafflcflou flgures, purported to be fron llnDOT, of 38,OOO vehiclesper day. Thls flgure has been used ln newspaper intervierrsby Mr. Thornpson, as t,ell as ln presentatlons before thePlanning Connlsslon.
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The total traffic at the intersectlon raa then slightly over
17,OOO vehicles p6r day, wj.th by far the greatest traffic
flol, on Hwy 7 east of the intersection.
This is a far
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cry fron the erroneous fLgures of 3A,OOO
We don't knou if thfs will have any bearlng on the $ray you
vlee thls property fron a zonlng standpolnt, but rre dtdthlnk that you r.rould be lntereeted ln lrhat we aa$ as at theleast a dletortlon of the facts.
You have e very dlfflcult J6b, end no natter ehat you
ultlnately reconnend soneone r.r1lI be unhappy t,lth your
posltlon (that doe6n't necesaarlly nean unhappy rrlth you
however). Obvlously. the realdentg In thls area are
overr.,helnlngly against the proposal as nade, ehtch r.re hope
t,ll.L have sone conslderatlon 1n your ultlnate
reconnendat ion .
Slncerely yoursr,
Gene A. Conner
P.S. I recently sent a copy of ny presentation before the
Planning Connission to nenbers of the Clty Council. I
thought you night be interested ln ny letter of transnittal,
a copy of which Ls encloEed.
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P1 aaning Com.nission l,lembers
0h:nhass an City !:3r1
Dear lienbers of the Plannir:g ?onnission.
According to the Cha:rh rss en Chdnber of Ccnmerce rs report the City or ViIJ-€e
of Chanhrssen is unique irr Lh at it is a very carefuilrr planned community.
Home owners and fp-nilies :ice encouraged to locate here, trusting ln the city
planners orerall consideration for them and the gcod of tha comntuni ty they
represent.
fn view of that, we as home oroers expect to be protected fron zcie chaaging
in ou? area frcm resid.enti'i1 to connerci al-. ire need your cooperation to (eep
our neighbo:'hood a resj-Cential zoned area.
f,b unCerst,lnd thet : req:est for a zone change and a proposed developnental
plan h:.ve been subnitted to the 3ity of Chenhassen by Tomac Development owned
by Todd nronpson and D:dd ihcienzle. l'Ie, further. understand that they heve
a purchese agreement with lloberl" ieutinan ten'" rtil'e 3n a cha.rte in zoning f:'on
resiCential to comrnei'cial usg. nre prop-.rty in question is a a./ acre parcel
p!'esentlJ,' o.rn:d by :.ir. fautirnan. located rt the southwest corner of intersec-
tion 7 end 1i.1.
1t3 strongly object io the pt'cpossd ch:ng: in ?oniLg. 1s it n'ill ;r.1vl i very
negati;e zfj::+- or our n'-ighboraood. llolr::.ci:l- zcnlr,g is far tcc -.-1st 3:'id
encompassing fcr r::siierti:ii :rea. '.ie cou1i, hcrrev:r, accept ?n '1.-? zcn:
Change !,,h!ch a1lo',rs loubl: Cri,:l1ing l-1r)'rs 3s .
Tnsnk you in :d:rance foc your cooperat,icn.
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CITY OF CI.IANHASSEIi
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COMMUNIIY DEVELOPMENT DEP
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We, the andersigned honeorners dlrectly affected by the.proposed appllcation of
Tomac Developaent to rezone 7.9 acres of property, zbned 1-1 sirgle fenily resi-
dence, petltion the mcnbers of the Chanhassen Plennlng Cor.uaj.ssi on to maintain
the R-t status of this parcel.
Our homes rere purchased, after considerable search, for a quiet, nell-kept,
peaceful neLghborhood. Elot pIans, at tlme of purch6e, were duely searched and
revealed zoning to be 8-1 low density housi.ng and parkland. I recent decislon
of the Comnission reduced the p.trkland availability to the homeouners in the
area. Rezoning the above parcel rould destroy the neighborhood.
}Ie, unconditionally, oppose any further change end will take any action available
to us to retain the R-1 designation.
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dence, petition the m&rbers of the Chanhassen El"nring Conraission to nalnts.in
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peaceful neighborhood. Elot plp,ns, at tfune of purchre, were duely searched and
revealed zoning to be R-L 1on density housing and parkland. A recent decision
of the Commission reduced the parkland availabillty to the homeosners in the
area. Rezoning the above parcel would destroy the neighborhood.
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dence, petition the nonbers of the Chanhassen Elrnrring Cocrnissi on to naintain
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peaceful neighborhood. PLot p1a,ns, a.t tine of purch-rse, were du.Jly searched and
revealed zoning to be i-I los density housi.ng and p3.rkland. d recent decision
of the Comnisslon reduced the parkland availabillty to the honeoqners in tfie
area. Rezoning the above parcel would destroy the neighborhood.
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revealed zoning to be R-l 1os density housi-ng and parkland. A recent decision
of the Connission reduced the parkland availabillty to the honeonners in the
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of the Comrnission reduced the parkland avaiLabi.lity to the homeor:ners in the
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@uncilman Geving: I,b had a different set of rules too.
I'layor Hamilton: Eve Luse is,. in my opinion a hell of a nice guy and he
iT._Ii! gI ?* arong.. rre's_kird of like rlllanus onry not ".6"t"p"i*.rrE rures alpry to everltbody erse exc€pt him ard he was a councir peison invictoria for a number of years. }E sGrted his operaticr trere aru'te-iustkind _of kept growing wittr it ard we would te1t uim-re-can'ft; il".fr tyould say oh, okay. .ItE ne,<t time you $rent out there he g..,, "or* ;o.;- "oit just kird of drifted on ard it git cut of harri .na w"-er,iJ up t ri"g i,i^to court a few times. fE reatly is a heck of a nice guyr he i rlt couian,tstop growing y9! lris prople-T.. re Bg u good business ini'it ri. going1*ecrazy. It still is. I donrt_know if thjt hel ped you a lot .fay. -r tria-
!op"d ,g would get more q:ecific yes or no. Wiren Soes the elaining '--
Conmission meet again Barbara?
Balbara Dacy: lE hasntt nrade application.
l,layor Hanilton: I just asked you when the planning Cormission met.
Barbara Dacy: the secorrl ard fourth l€dnesdalE of every month.
l,tayor Hanilton: I was worrlering what date that was.
@unci Iman Johnson: Can they consider the same way we considered it?InfonnaJ-ly discuss it wi ttput an application to give Jay a feel?
Barbara Dacy: Yes.
Mayor }bmilton: Jay is going to be here for a couple of weeks so ].ou mayhave t}e otporu:nity to get on the agerda arrt just discuss it eri th- them ardget their feel ings a1so.
DISCUSSION OF PROPERTY ON IIIE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF TH 7 AND TH 4I, MAYOR
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Mayor fhmilton: this is a piece of proprty that werve looked at a fewtimes previousty at the Courcil. Tlre appl icant would like to develop theprolErty and the homeowners in the area continue to fight the retail
develognent of the property, in fact, almost any develo[ment of theprolErty. So I had told Tom Wartman arri Tbdd Thom[Eon that we would behapgf to have the @urrcil give their views on that intersection ore moretime to see if ttrere is any sentiment for retail which they are proposing,
$rhat seems to me to be the reasonable way to develop that corner. itreprolErty is currently zoned primarily for commercial use which is officebuildirgs ard other such structures. At the present time tlre market is notin very good shape for office buildings arri i think the applicants may havea good case in sayirg that itrs a takirg since they can,t use tte property,Irt the protErty to use so they can use-it. llhey can build apartmentbuildirgs there ard leave thern sit empty ard lose all their money whichdoesnrt seem to me to be a very good thing to do and r'm sure i[ doesn't fortfEm either. So I had just told ttErn that vre $rould discuss it again ard IT_
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rrould rike to get the courciLrs feerings on this lErcel to just give them abetter flavor for where the courcil may be at todiy ard wtrai ty$s of thingsthe @uncir wourd be amenabre to listening to and not ristenirif to. r fertit. woqld. be an e.asier quor.nn for us to di*uss it just amongst -ourserves
rather tlEn having- the neighborhood in bere beatirfi the druis. r ao noticethat orp of the, neighbors rr) there, ard r don't reriember tle gulB *.", r,."some prolErty for sale now just to the south of your prop".ty-. whatls ttratgulxs rEme? cary Reed. -tb fought their develoSrnent prlviously but now hashis own property for sare sutposedry for commelciat -aeveropn&rt
"o trring=are charryirg. rtrs a nice corner ard of ceurse traffic coitinues toincrease on that corner anl it segmg to be a good solid retair Jeveiognentcorner. Jay, wlry donrt I start with you.
Counci lman Geving: llave they got a proposal? A specific proposal?
Mayor tlamilton: No. I didnrt ask tlrern to coIne in wittr a specificproposal- You saw the last prgEosal t},ey had included retaii. Like a stripshopping center ard there would be retair- ard there wourd be some officespace. r think there was one building tt't was some office on the wests1de.
@uncilman Johnson: r sar, _a rnt of this rast rrear as r sat through many ofttnse meetirgs. r was invorved in. a neighbortrdca trrat ,." in irjitinq '.rso
at the same time so r can s)mlEthi ze a iittle with the n"ighLi"'.---i'3ee tlebiggest problan as transporlaiion As ttE transportation "!t"ty p.oUi".", ralmost got rear errred out on TH 7 a whire back. As usual, somel&y behindme was talking to his wife instead of looking in front of him anr i r-r.ain my rearview wirrlow as r rras taking a reff urn and sure enough he wasstill doing 60 behird me. - Those are -going Lo L some tough issues there. rrealry see that as some of tl:e toughelt. r thought that fou raa wor-t<J outa lot. of tle problems as far as r was concerned. t perso-nauy bel ieve thatit's inevitable that werre going to rnrre so.e ae.rerognent other than singlefamily housirg on that corner.
Mayor tlamilton: Let me ask you a question. If the ingress and egress onthat- prolErty off of T' 7 ard onto tti Z ,.O on to ..O off of IH 41 could beresolved to your satisfaction, would you be in favor of a retail ;;i;;- ""llpt proryr-ly? A
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srrip cenrer with s&ne commerciura r aon;ir."i-i"-g"trnto specifics, I'm just saying generally reEail.
Counci Iman Johnson: rn general yes. It,s really a tough situation there
?.d tl-.y are. really going
-to _fave some heavy tra-ffic ".ir"t"- rfr". V""i'!ltowards anv kird of fasr.food twe of appliiations ard thirgs rik;-Edt-r4rhich was mentioned previously.-- rtrat Gomes very tough. r think the mainissue with me is the traffic safety. I,Il leave 11 ut if,ut, i;il il ^
prevote anything here.
Mayor Hamilton: r don'it expec' you to. r'!m iust saying if arr those thingsccuLd be resolved, tl* rrafiic ard rhere,s ,.-qr;"4i6;"fu; J* .-iiEuil=*,you feel that that crourd be retair and commerc'iat combined or retail like astrip shoppirg center rike we were rooking aE for Retail west or on theJames ttoEErty.
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counci lman Johnson: r actuarry liked their last proposar. rt is touqh forpeople to- say that they're going to build a shopprng center behird ."'il"aprogress has got to be made. That is a .re.y ,oiif"[able corner. I ;;Jiknow if it wourd be good_ f^or. single fami ry -housing i.n that ial. ;;;';"=yintersection. r'm not l6az in favor of si-ngre ta;iry housinq-. -
i-ti.ri.nr.- tr,"vhave legi timate gripes.
counci rman Geving: welr, r think there are four or five things that we haveto consider in this deverognenL yourve got a rot of very coicernJ peopt ein that area who are vocal, as you well lirow. It is prim;ilf " ;i.gi;-fam i1y neighborhood ard those people wilr fight to k&p ttrt 'separil'ion. rthink that's the next point th5t i'rr make is trrat rt trre projeci-;;;;;n"properly with a show ing to the neighborhood that there is u g-.roa ""p..uiionbetween the proposed business and t].e existing homeowners and the impact oft!9 very close neighbors, r'!m tarking about uie neighbors ttrut wouiJ'u" -
affected most, which is directly to the erest. Ihat-rs the key to thisdevelopnent- r don't ber ieve that the Re€ds pray as big a pirr in tr,i" -some of the other homeownerrs but if tlre devertlxnent wal niclry done, quaritytyIE olEration ard maybe.not something that you wourd rehash i.n u.inj u"crto rrs with something that's not new, 1 don't tlink it would have a chince otpassirg but if it were sonething that you dish up as something new.something a little bit better quality or could sell the qualiiy angJ,ekeepirg it setErate from the homeowners. tpw density. cooa .i* oE ,r,ut=rr".yourre proposing ard not just a gas station. r don't know. r looked atthat area several times since we voted on ttre issue ard ob,viousry nothingh^s happened there in severar. years now. rrm afraid it wirl "onti.,rr" io ri"idle so there has to be a better use for that protrErty ard r think we haveto be rearistic that there is a better use somewhere.- what Im saying toyou people i.s, brirg us back a new proposal. Don't rehash the oId pr6posal,it wil'r die. rt will never get pasi first base but bring us nacr s6mettringthatrs good quality, low density, good separation from HL existing homesand r think it has a chance of being talied about and discussed fu-'rther.Thatrs all.
courci lman Bolt: r think the critical issue here is the neighbors. rt hasbeeo a-i r along. The property is certainry commerciarly viabie. r b.i i"u.that there are some issues that need to be $rorked out -and r don't know thatthe neighbors urxlerstanl them. r donrt know that r understard ttlem but r doknow that to vote on it we've got to be able to show that there is asignificant portion of the neighborhood that sulports it. It doesn,t havetg b .t],. IEopIe right next door to it. I think you,ve talked a good dealabout berm irg. you've talked about sight line. you've talked ab5ut routingthe traffic to rovrer tie traffic by the residential neighborhood. youive
dorE a lot to try ard meet the neighborhood ard to me the key issue is let'sfind some neighbors who are going io come in and support ttri-s ttring. you
represent a substantiar econom ic resource to chanhassen to get som6thirgdone on that corner ard t think the @uncir and the neighboihood neeai iocqne to grips wi$r vrhatever we're going to do there ard- get it done.whatever that is so as rrve said all arong you deserve a decision. you
deserve it from this courrcir ard r wourd be arl for getting on with ii so wecan work the problems out.E.
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@uncilman Gevirg: I th]$ ore of the things that Irve seen over a longperiod of time is where the developer in.
"6me i" x"oring liui r:rJy'"I goa urorg. history of opposition, where *e deveropers rrave $rorked with tlreneighbors. r mean rearry gone armost aoo. to aoo. and herd *.. *i'Ii,g"with the peopre anr tark to the peopre. reti tlrem ilt y"rG-;."*!iirn "*ask them for their advice. you travi to asi them. Be pleasant about it ardr. think -if you can get tt.m to support yo, "t' ,"rt wittr you, r-ti.r'iir anut,"what we'Il hear arri Irve seen proposals ione through like t}at r.rhere on thenight we vote on it nobody sto-wq',-+- ttay ... cqnpr.etely satisfied so it'sa. selring jo! tl,.t you have to do Lfore it L".. gets to our situation here.That's all I'm goirg to tell you because tlrai worfs.
Mayor tiamilton: I have a couple comments. I think everybody who has triedto develop this properry bas worked with tne *ig*i"lt;fo';;fi;.;"have not been satisfied with- any proposal ana r furinf lf "uofJv,.ri. totlern on berded knee they stiu ioorar,'t G "uti"tia with it no matter ifyou took them all .ut to rurch and dinner roi monttrs on ena ard tir.v "ti[wourdnrt sulx)ort your darn proj ect ..o * *ilt r how nice it was or not niceit was- Ersonarrv t'm 16:gz uur,ina ti,.-pi.iJi. r think it,s a greai pracefor retair ard r rh-ink we need to rememu&- irraf-.."iai"i".pe"Iiii3i=iJ "proposed pran does not in itserf mean that it snoura * t .irJ-J.r.. Thatis not a means of turning down a proj eci i.g.UV. It,s a taking ofProperty. rhe residents can voice ttrtir opi-nions but you stirr have to baseyour.vote.on the project_on what your ord i-nance salE you can do ard not onpublic opinion. I .iusr feel ttrat -no ,"ti.. -rno l.ingl tfr" p..:*I-f.?this parcer, * ,n.iro what it. r.ooks rikll "ii.ir,.. ir,s rr. rast one utreybrought in and brought it in again, *n.tt.. "iii.y
redo the whole plat andPtip i" a compretely .qw on",. tlre neighbois aie 9oin9 to oppose ir. we,vetold the neighbors previous]y if Ehey d;,a rik. ,,ir,ut -tt
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".q'ha t"buy tle property themselves. . flrey're .o! "iiil.g to buy the property.so rfeel it's time that the council s[ooa ul-.na^i]s .ountea and we moved ahead
:^i_T_ _Si._plojecE ard. gave Ehese feltow! some- supporE in developing Ehatcorner. Itrs about time. we goE. going a*l I t-hin[- they have f.,_a. to,p"I-upwith errcush srief from trre n6ish5ors-uJ-tr," --ln"rr -il-;;";;j; IIl.._they need some s_rpport ard rrm wiLli"s L ;i""-ia to thsn.
courci lman -Geving: But rom you have to be a litu.e bit realistic. werqrrelent,tie people and the peopre are the ones who "ot" ioi-*-u"a"iarr ustp ard tell us r.ehat theif wisies-are ard wtrat ifiey would like to see doneard we listen to that. ry: i,rj}t afways fi"Ln lo U,.t. r don,E even know ifthese genrlemen Iive in Chanhassen r;l;I;id people who live herc- ntaxes here and vote for rhe people who ...;ili'ifi-","r^Li'J.'Jl=.."=fi;"=L*-?:- who are soins ro ca, you ard r think ; i;* ;;"-;;;"=:',iErrno""peopre ' we have to hear fron uiem. r,r,ut ri- proposing is t,at Ehese felrowscontinue to go back arrl try t9 self their program to them one more time. Ithink tininq is reallv important. r don,t- kn6w when the best time to selL aproj ecE is. Look bacli to when *u tiiJ it'u"io." u.o anallze if you can
YF_a ,1-"! llg"s. Maybe rle ti*ing -*a, p*i--oilr* r.rhar you don,r realizers a rot.of. those people go souti in tt='ri"i".8.". Maybe the time to ser.la project is in December. I don't krow. i ;;; no idea but whaE. I,mtellirg you is timing is very important.
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-T Counci lman Boyt: I think that or* of the confusirry factors here is theneighJcorhood has to come to grips with the develognent of the corner. q.ethat is hardred then how the corner is develoS:ed becsmes a ress volatileissue then if. itrs going to be developi at aII. Ihe City @uncil ""id, fgather some time in the last year or so, that the corner could be deveiopedard if it's going to be deverolEd with a different kird of commercialdeveloFnent than the developers wourd Like to have. Irow r think itrs r4) tottre city courrcil, if we're realry going to bite the burlet on this, to carrythe burden of sayirg we're goirq to zone that so that the kird ofdeveropment that needs to go in there, that is economically justified to goin there can go in there. Then how itis deveJ-oped becomes -aiother issue arduntil we clme to grips with_how ererre going to zone t}lat piece of protErtyar4 iort of take our rwnps if we decide to zor= it differently trran wiat tleneighborhood would like to have it zoned, then I don,t think ihese guys aregoirg to, based on rrhat you've said, I donrt think theyr re going to-mlke it.
Mayor Hamilton: A coupre more cmments. rtere are three things tl.at needsto be accompr i shed r guess. rrve been up there no$/ on severar times driven
down Orio1e [ane or whatever the street is that goes down there and gosh,IrlI tell you, the hill goes up behird their hcrnes right now. you cin't see
TH 4I and you can't see TH 7 until you get right over to TH Z. They
proposed even more berm ing ard the c.,ommercial buildirg would be on thatside. I can't for the life of me figure out how they can complain aboutnoise or whatever it was they were complaining about, that far away from theroad. they can't see a darn thing rrcw and tlley,re not going to cut the hitl
down. it's going to stay there so I had a real problem with that. I thinkthey're complaining about something that isn't a problem and I think Irmbeing realistic ard they're not.
City Council l4eeting - August 3, LggT
C.ourri lman Johnson : l4y baclqaard syrdrone.
Tom Wart an: Mr. Mayor ard @uncilmen, we certainly appreciate your
comments.. the major interest that has been expressed in the property has
been retail t)l[E uses, especially with the school corun itment now ard thereopening, werve got basically a projection of 9Og to l.006 fifth and sixthgraders comirg to that area. We feel there is a real need for convenierce
neigbborhood t),[E uses. We fulJ"y interd Eo work closely with the staff as
Mayor Hamilton: Thatrs ttue ard I guess Irve Iistened to the neighbors upthere on the last couple times this has been proposed and I tried to Iistento all their comments ard weigh thirgs out arrl I probably didn't weigh themout right. I think Bill hit on it when he says it's jusa time for u! toIisten to the experts. Our planning Staff has told us that that,s a retailand commercial corner. Ihe people who are in the business of doing thesetypes of things say it's a retail ard commercial, corner. Itrs ideal. Itrsprime. fobably one of the best sites in the Twin Cities area that,s left
o.n Ttl 7 ard theyrre in tlre business of doing this. I guess Irm moreirrcIined to listen to them than I am to the neiqhbors who aren,t number onegoirry to buy the property ard haven't been willing, to this point, to listento any developnent proposed for that corner so I agree, I think we shouldget on with it ard I trotrE these colunents have helped you ard maybe you have
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$rell as the neighbors to show them, as the plan develops, in a very qualityform ard deal with a rot of the concerns ttrat have b".ni .*p."r"J-i.iight
?F t9 9.oTg back thror:gh ttre planning @mmission ana counci I witn a piinthat r.think the city wirl be proud of, we can be pror:d of.s aeveiofiis..nthe neighborhood $riU be proud of as well arxl addrLss as many ;;;;; ; ,"possibly can in the plannirg process so we appreciate tle tirie -iro -tiie -'
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lbdd thompson: I j'lst $rantd to address Dale for a minute. I spent the
l::.j_rf--y:::s trr/irS to.work with these people. r have been i..i ,rp-tosre pornt where you can n9t imagine. I have gone into every one of tnlirhomes. rrve shared everything t-hat r possiblf ever dreamt Lf aoirrg th.i".Irve.tri$ -everyEhing f cn to work with thesl peopt e. Itrey have
P1::T:-r1{. ry. rhey,ve -rhrearened me. rt,s sorten to ttE point where $rerEve aDsorutery no way of talking ard this is really why t hive goEteni.nvoLved with Tom. Hers dorE a number of quaL iiy develognents. I haveexhausted my time.
City Courci I t€eting - August 3, I9B7
lbdd thompson: Irve tnd meeting after meeting.the neighborhood. I,ve had me"tirgs on tte siL.of listening to reason.
Mayor fhmilton: rbdd has told me ard I hoIE this is true, that he was inthe grocery store shoppirry ard orE of the n;ighbors came up to him ard toldhim if you paid me tti6 rignt u^ornt oi *onJy'i" wouro back you on this. Isthat correct?
Todd Ihompson: Itrs not just one. Itrs to the point $rhere it,s out ard outextortion ard you've given. them the authority 1o ao trri" in . certain wuy.Itrs gotten to the point rrrbere sqnething tEs'to-change. -- .--- -'
Councilman Gevinq: I think ttE lhing that has to change here is the
ll,s_to:ical bringing up, we,ve fna wirit ls -it
two years since this r.ras turneddohn or rezoned.
Tqn IErEnan 3 A littel over a year.
Courcilman e€ving: Okay, whatever the time but in that time rothing bashappened realIy because of the econom ics of the .zonirg.- N;thiil';; ffip*ard I think thatrs the strongest point that you *u. to present to thePlanning commission ard the @urcir that it'i just not sii.s-l; J.""G ti*way it's been zoned.
Mayor rhmilton: Ard I think )pu can show office is not going Eo a[plyF:.9: It jusr won,E go therei There is ;-il;" empEy office slEce, it,snot the r{ay Eo 9o.
Tom Wartnan: lib plan to_ take a f.resh approach and werre going to bring thisto see what we can cone forward wit} so ie,re gorng to take a positive
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Mayor Hamilton: I think you'11 find a good reception from the city. Nextitem, BiIl wanted to talk about items 3 ard 4 on the agerda. These- wereitems that were on the Board of Review this evening. {h"y ,"r. passed butBiIl wanted to nake sqne coments about thql or maybe alout tte lrrcess.
@uncilman Bol.t: I.IeIl both. Ihings about the process and about theseIErticulars. r would Like to get clarification ard r understard there aresome disagreement about intrepretation of this. r think you can read ourordinance ard interpret what we are askirg the Board of eij ustment andAtpeals to do, that we're asking them to review it. ff they unanimouslyapprove it then we are sayirg we can put that on a consent igema, trre citycourrci 1 agrees and trEsses. there is some question as to whether the citycouncil ne€ds to vote on it to approve it or whether ttle city council canretrieve them and vote on them if a member wants to. r would rike to seethat issue clarified ard r appreciate the opgrortunity that rom has given meto tark about two items that were passed by the Board of Mjustmeirf andApIEals. The first one is item 3 ard staff, ttle way I inteipret this, youmissed a key point and ttrat is the drawing that r s-ee in item number i,'thisperson is within 26 V2 f@t roughly of a pord. I don't see anything in thevar iance about the rrEtland.
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been some reed grasses. I don't recall seeirg any though. If you wa;t usto verify lre can.
Councilman Boyt: I think the difference in the issue is are we giving a 3.4foot variance to a rearyard setback or are we giving a 30 foot oi almo'st a50 foot variance to our l\btlands ordinance? to me -that makes a difference.I
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Councilnan Bo).t.: A pord is not a wetland?
Jo Ann Olseo: Itrs not' a designatd protected wetlard.
Councilman Bolrt: It's not a designated pond?
Jo Ann Olsen: Itrs not protected. It was a mannade pord.
Councilman BoyE.: Itrs a drainge pond? Ii we took Dr. Rockwell out there,are you telling me that she would say that that is not a $retlard? Sheevaluates ard bases on what she sees right now. you said that earlier thisevneing. You said if she walks out there ard sees that there is no wetlardvegetation as on tiat Iake Iot that we looked at, it is not a wetlard. Doesthat mean that if she walks out arrl sees wetLard vegetation, that it is thena $retlard?
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Counci I vroman Swenson moved, Courcilvroman Watson seconded to approve theMinutes of tte t'y 5, 1986
'neguf.r CIr";h.";; Aty council Meetirq with tlrenotd correction on page I:, -thira p";#6;';;ch should read:
In other words, I would like to see a maximrnn of, Ietrs say, 2gE urriertJIe l-',qgg square feet.
All voted in favor except councirman @ving v*ro abstained. rbtion carried.
councilwoman moved, councitman Gevirg seconded to approve the Minutes ofP:-9:*"""1 ptanning.Commission ui"tr."-.Fu"V 14, 198G. Alt vored intavor anl motion carried
Councihroman Watson moved, Mayor Hamilton seconded to alTrrove the Minutesof the Chanhassen planning Commission l,ri";Es;; uarch 19, 1986. Allvoted in favor ard motion carried
Councilman Geving pointed out to the other council mernbers the stronol,rspgg from the public on IEse s on tr,e era.,nirf diri'i1-si#=rji.iiH..Uarch 19, I98G.
I TO},IAC DEVELOPMENT, SOUTHI^IEST CORNER OF HI GHTAYS 7 AND 4I.
F:u=!. *_+-gne 5.4 Acres of land zoned c-t, office Buirdins ro--- r eliil:rErciar.
b.keJ.iminary PIat Reguest to Subdivide 7.9 Acres into six tots.
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Dacy: 0n June 3, I9g5 the Council approved the Lard Use plan Amendlentrequest to redesignate this area u= .ir*."i.iui on the tand Use plan and torezone the the souti site fro.m n_l to C_f- -iiould Iike to go throuqh thedifferences beEween the application of -:."-=t
V.lr- _A this apllicatioi rightl3I: what is beirg proposed. is 5 IoEs .= -.-ni-J.a ro 4 Iots rhat wereproposed last year. Access into tfre site #:-L" changed by one way introm rH 7 ard one way in _from. Tl 41 ",ri-; pii"L. access drive through tlresrEe to 64th Street and on out to TH 4I. io" ..y recaLl tiat J.ast yeardiscussion reqardinq rhe-, rraffrc oi-il"i'"irlij arounl five opEions. Thiswas the one that th6 aoolicant profosea at-th;t time which was Eo close offOriole arrl construct a'connectirL jc.".u i"Jol fuII intersection ,d makethe requ i red median rioht tu.n i-.p.or.#.Jit rH z. As of now, _ - Imentioned, that is not the "u"",-b.l;f"'#r= ;" to remain open ard thesite is to be accessed by privare ilIi! ti;"=" from Trr 4t, m 7 and 64thstreet. The zoninq oartern i. d;;i#.i".i.=' wt.t is being requesred isfor the northeasteili three lots t. U"".." C_i and retain the wesEernboundary as C_I as if is nos zoned. Th" piu;nin; Commission recomnendedrezoning of only tot 6 to C_2. -----'-":
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r r.rould like to run through the differences in uses between the c_r and c_2district. you wiII probaSty recatt from-ii"t-y..." di;;;.r, ;J -.,
primarily ^Ilows only offices, financiaL ins[iiutioni *;;il.i;,rdprofessional offices as permitted use. as a cornitio;i-";;-d:i ;ijlallow. hospitals, mortuarl.s, research facilities arrl residential uses. IheC-2 districE is more intense. It vrill al1os, general retail. b"niJ;'off ices,
. restaurants, dry_cleaning estaUf i-sfrm&rt, moEtuarl.s ani civicinstitution as a permi ttEd use. p"r*iiiJ-r."'at this tiri. ,"q,ri.o-ti*Planning commission and ciry council review. - * is ;a;-;eq,riiJirl*ri"hearing. corriitionar use pr6vision or a c-i-aistrlct r{ r a[ow autoservice station, dry cleanlng _establ i shments,- rnotel ""a t.t.l",-'p.JXi"gramps, private ch:bs ard laundramats.
r r"ould like to 90 .ver the erements of the preliminaly plat at this time.Because of the concern ,I?:f ir,g tnis rezonl!- u"tion-1.uJi yL*, ?"-i.i.uvin regards to the traffic patteins, staff raliested that they also submit atraffic anataysis essentially included in yorii- rq>ort. Itra trafficanarlrsis referenced four corditions. cre 6t them ueing the imfr-o-vement ot64th street as it intersects $r 4r. rt also iecomments sigrnge to preventright turns traffic going back in tfrro,rgh -th" -nerghborhood.
MnDot hasreviewed the proposed tr;ffic pattern .fo *,"ii retter is arso attached inyour packet ard tiey have recommerxred tfEt certain thiG b" ;;;;"t"connection to Tlr 4 arrl T*I 41- Just a brief conment on the $r 7 corridorstudy that is stirr progressing. the corridoi study is stilr in thepreliminary stages. They.had J E:bI ic hearing rn air to
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meE ,lti,= m" consultants, BRw on thematter. what they are proposing is not contrary to the intent of the ftI 7@rridor srudy and in eisence, is minimi-ing-ttrl i*p""t t.o* mr-i .iJ *i[be shifting rhar impacr to. a_ different poriion or tire siG.'''a! tnl"-poi.tr would like to shift to_Bi,r. lronk to.g6 ovei grading and traffic concerns.Before Bill starts, the e,anning conrniision ltJo recommended approvar ofthe prat subj ect to the cond iti-on= "ontainJln tn" sturr ..poii. -'
so L"vapproved the rezonirq for this one lot ard ard approved tir. pi"rir"inl.iplat subdivision -
Bill Monk: lhe overall .pr,oposal is proposed to run sanitary sewer frome-xistins taterals on 64rh Sireel ,q.!"t,i tr,. pr.t una this;iI1;;"lit-provide sanitary sewer service uo this entire' area. Whether it isdeveroped as commerciar or higher aensi ty-
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The $rater main isalso proposed to be extended irom OaUr iir;t -;"d the erater main isproposed to be looped aro_urd back over to Oiiof" a,re.ru" anl the Orchardfane area to arrow good flow through trr" "nlii" "."u. r wonrt mak-. furthercomments on those unless there are guestions at ttris poinE in tii- -il;
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four corditions that Berbara read, of the traffic study r.rhich staff dialrequest be so requir€d lip ti. s"nnitGi, ,iu.d in essense be c_onstructionof three ranes down in this area to ;ir;;';t"" right turn into t'e siteard also three lanes t1l ?t TH 4L acress poini to again allow a free rightnovement anc some widening on Tt 41 in 'trris area. that is a corrrition ofany approval that would be given. trattic is proposed to increasesubstantiauy on TH 41. As I noted in my-report, however, the numbers thathave been proiecred ao:-I= "rii;d";"fid!il, *r,*, it is fitted out,stirl do not proiect into r.rarranting " t'uiii" slgnar on TTt 4r at G4thstreet ard are within acceltable rimlts ii-ttre f'11 irnprovements are madeto 64th Street as outlined-.
Gr drainage issues, what is. f1n9 proposed it merely to combine a series ofo<istir,n row areas arr:l created row -areas aronc the road so that runoff frqnthis site can be cauoht rrp in ttl "ura*;.#" ard the rate of outlet asir is released onto 6ith &;;;;fr'J-tLr'* at irs presenr rare ardnot irEreased' tris does meer watershed ;i;ti", .rrd-r#r'iidp.iii"=for hardling rurpff. Howe. yer, tr. ci&-t"i-ii,= orrn set of problens inttris area arxr it affects.tne wort- we L";L;; doing recently on ttermanField park. rhis shows-_rhe 1i Jir,g "llIaT*o. ard tle arrows showexisting drainage FEtterns, j,st rough drainagl trEtterns as they qrrrentryexisr' we've sor a road arei .. e+ui it -iilL. .o the east of orioleAvenue' Drainaqe comes .from "* aii""-tioil a'oL to thar rov, point beforeit frows overra6d through * oi"ti.g lr-;'iJ u-rro"" . residentiar. rot ardEhrough the corner of wira u- "iri o"
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Er.oers across the proposedaccess to Herman Eierd,
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that $rourd arlow thisdeveropmenr, * *luitu. h.; ii d;*r.;; iffi;#: the drainase sysrem in heref.:l:-:l]I rhroush a cooperative arc. p-i"fli,"r wourd not necessiraternvorvrng assessments anl I am .*;,;**iing tt"t tt" c.*"if -.ppi"r.-ii"
preliminary plat wir, that direcriol;;;;,* ;;.sbff so rhar r.re can rryard improve rhe drainaoe probrem. . rt-p-tr"*'tt.t p.eslnilf a.l.-l-iJa .pin this area. There arl -j lot .of i t"r"" -ir".-ir"o in this. I guess withthat, a brief overview of rhe irp.;;-;;".t';;ion, as Ehe council gers tovarious areas r will be ""airaurJ to -i"-=w!.--{r'""aro*.
Dacy: Just one final comment. I should note that the planning Commissionadded a cordirion on U5 nlai tt ut-"..""riig-ui tu.rl."uping be i_.:alledalong tpts 2 and 5 to adequately
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Doug Arrd t Jr.: l{r. Mayor,,Counci.l merbers, thank you for your timeEonight' we are back before you rhis year L "*.":" n".t iri-lu-iiop"rayon Ehe corner of T,H 7 ard TH 4I to C_2 use. --fuiafy
because Tomac Ls.spentthe lasr vear rrying to finl .n u".uptubi. c--iu"-r"i-ll- *""J,r'I!,i"
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know from readinq the newspapers and other pr:blications, office space inthe westem ard southem suburbs is overbuiii at this point. office usefor this site, at this point o. tir io.-"-"i.-Uie future, is not a realaLternative as ampry demonstrated ry trre suriivan center which is intoreclosure. wtnt we propose on thE site on tne largei I;;-th"i A"planning commission recommended to go to c_i,- is . zl,igg il"t-,* "rri..jiEnlity retail service center tlrat iould co#ain some higher quality shops.Not just a regurar service center that ,;rrd-; a benefit to tlE in'nediatearea and for Chanhassen. Ihe need tor srcf, a center, we feel has beendemonstrated, althouqh. we have not si;ned ;; ie.ses' uec.use -*" ..Jioingthroush the various 6iry p.o"esse", ,6 uu"i";;ai;."";;;;*i".il.rlp ."508 of the spac€. In terms of the financing -irrang.d,
we have tonq termfinancins arransed for trris *"G;.--,ril;;'Li.r.p**i ;i;'i"^;; ;:,clErate tbe center for the foreseeable future- wi int*j 6 ; ;;*^neighbors ard long term neighbors. a. i*-."-rt.t we propose LiJ[ vo,this year as compared to whal .irappelJ i."a;*, r.re real]y sat down withthe architects that we are using','rto ui. u...V professional ard very good ati{hat ttley .do, ftV h""-.:::ked 5n s,q6 a;.j;L as Galteria ard BorEventureand a -similar project right now urrler c'onstruction in Skokie, Illinois. wer.ranted to address the traffic prob).ems that we krew were ; ;a6ill;;;year ard we feer !.re have done ttrar erith the right in "ff oi TH t;;-th"right in off of IH 4L -Ie ul. ngi i.rt*t"irlrg with any of the existingtraffic lEtterns. we are not asking for ;i;;;" of existing streers. wefeel that is the besr oossible
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we are notasking, in fact we are aski.rg for less C_r'a;; than r.ras asked for lastye?r-,. vre are keeping a strip of C_I office betrreen the C_2 and theneighborhood-
. *'ghr nov, it is vacanr r.J *ni.i, pro"ia."-" giJ'-uutrer.AIso, as Barb indicatedr..",pu..t oe .oua a.uai"p"rs agreement, are willingIo laldsg?pe with adequare. larrJscaping, ou ii.a".uS "."t it!J- i="i.,iiitonighr if vou $ranr to go into aetiit - into i[l--to "".."n rh" ;;. j""I-f;.the nei.ghborhocd ard make it acceptable in that way. t{e have alsoirxlicated our wirrinoness to entei into a developer,s agreement whichincrudes tlre rartscajing, approval ot trre detaits of the bui rding when wereach that process, we also will incrude the improvements on 64th streetard obvior:sry meet alr the city starrlards ard MnDot stardards for theaccess off of TH 7 and TH 4L and we rrill also meet the drainagerequirements. _ I guess I vrould like to sununarize just by "ayi,iq th.t wtutr.re are proposing, we feel is a very good, rrigh quirity 4."J"6";;;h;;'wourd realry add something to thaE aiea of ctianhassen. we arL not askingfor any City money or fRV _money nr_.anything. It is a1I going-to -S"--'..'
private.Ly financed. we wirr be adding to t[r" t , base ard we really $rantto be good neighbors. rf r may, t wouLd like to have our ui.i,ir.ll'.J,i" upfor a few mi.nutes and run through some of the details ;-t[;;: ,;";:are proposing if that is aLright?
Reed Becker: I am lrith the architectural firm of Heise, Vanney andAssociates- we have taken- a very crose look at this site .J -,irr"t
"" i.""done-is has already been descriGd, ,. rra;;-.tsr,t in;}i";}i';"""ito?.in off of-T,- 41 ard ingress ard egiess off of 6ath street.- we'tn;"-"i;every c.arefulJ.y our center. l,lost 6ften whaE happens is the center f;.-;"dwiti its parkirg out to the road so yo, i* iE parXing f rom tfre ";;1;;
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the parking in this arearrom the road so the surrourding .."i"-*-6i runa"".ping, which is thegreen s[Ece wit]r trees_ard_ $ eurt lp i;-d'i= interior of the sie. Asmentioned earlier, there is an area tr6re wrrictr is separated by armost 200feet between the residenti.f ".*
-..n1;. ";#... In order to be a betterneighbor, we have Drovi-ded_; b"; ;.:; ;:;: .* a larrtscatE buffer so wehave bot} berm inq ard lardscaping. ;. ilff;=.* a stualy that shows thehouses that are ii this ..=ia.i"tii-r ;;";;.;; sisht rine, due ro ourbuffer anl ou! rrees, ttrey.woura-f, il;id;:, the top of our shoppingcenrer ard $'ould not see. .ttre udraing-i;s;i r]"rn v are rower so thei arerooking t4r, their siqht riF diJ; ;tili;* the roof. rrrey wouid notsee the cenrer. rhe fact that we dr. -i;d;;;rng
on all four sides of ourproject' the parkinr *-l_l_"*i:;:r,'ilEi'i internarized, bur requiredparking calls for 167 spaces. We have 163 iicluding harriicapped
"o ,rd h.rr"more than adesuare oarring. Birr r'ror; ;; ;ir;y addressed rhe utirities.rtEt we are in compli"*:,yitr 6: aiii'&.'i'.'"l"enrs ard rhe wastershedDisrrict ard would vrork with the citv in-anltIt"it" ttut would be requiredto make this projecr "o:[.-- r,"-,*i"'r*i"]'i 'r=."ru jusr show you " .o,.iohprcture perspective for what ere propose tf. toiio irg will took like. w"have used a very resideii3r ;i.. ilirli#"i; this buirdinq. lihar wenave r.s a corr)re of anchors at each .rr:, -.ti.-to.ta1
!.lC!! or tre uuitaingrs 19 feer and we have 3 uar*l Gl'ri['"ii.i"ar," buirding at 8 feer thatr''ourd have Ehe siqnaoe fo.r the aiE.*ra -"t"i;s
on it arrl below that is tl.walkway. auove tiraf ,"-11f 9.*.t.:''"hJ";::, which is a rypicarresidential style roof trying to gl,re. ;o; rEiaentiat low scateiffi?lif";r..il#::"f;' met ari or tn" Lii,"i"-rtv ordinances in terms or
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Doug Arndt Jr.: If I nay, we have a representative from the CivilErgineer, our t€nlscalE kchitect, .h;-i;#i;;questions you may t"r'a. '--"---LL' LrrE rrcrLrrc Erg rneer to ans$rer any
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Kay ftsgman: I have a ouestion first of all. f $ronder if tie offic-.buirdings aren,t used, ity ,*rJ ,"'uJ il; rir a uurfera secon , ., rwould tike Eo know wtrar-c_2. "il] f i";ily ;;ini"rl_ao our neighborhc .:. whatis going to happen Eo rhose big rots ..-iH-; "i*: mr +r: wirr there be fasrfood resrauranE or a 24 hour 9;= ;;#"";itn,[,ur
Jr9is9 ancl Iighrs goingall night rorg wirh kids arri 6"".vooov. " ;;i- ; a rirtle riny neighborhoodand rhis is a rirtre tiny.pror g,;y ";; s;i;; ;; pur arr this sruff on.rt'!s onry what, 7 acres. uy t *uu.n did '"-.-# i'n a retter Eo puE in yourpacker because he wasn,r 3ri. t. .u" rrJi; ;;;;di abour r,,e rraffic. ive rivethere ard we know how much t.a.rric ir-iie;';#: There is jusr no r.ray erithtrro rE$, roads coming in rhar lil".:t ;l'., 'i".L herendous. we,ve Gen
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here last year, the vear_ before when Mr. Reutiman..hranted to put in a motel,ard $,e fought this niw ro. tt re" y""r;-;J;;' rsn'r fair. ldo one isconsiderinq the reiohborhooa. w.-irJ ;; ;", r."p .o*ing t"[.ii-"o.irgback ard we have no choice-- wn.l"i'".- iJitii.a, ," just have to take it.I think this is uay too much. ltl..if,i L-n';i rigtt.
BilI Sweringer: I live on U3 adjoining corner. I don,t have any problemswith the commerciar crrner. rtat-certainlv i" tir. traffic counc i= nignard certainly anyore urxierst"d" thJ;.;;"'" ^ire street shorewood has amajor shopping center. r have tr.ro sG;l;;". - cre is what wi,J. happen withthe two front lots tu! ::." not didussJ O, a* architects ard two, erhois going to [Ey for t]te street improvernents on 64th Street?
Bob wagner: 2511 .rchard rane- this is tl* fire ttrat acEumurated in aresidentiar mode for this deveropm*1 .r".*ti,. rast three years. r sort offeel like one of the dogs in eadiigJ= "_p.i.-"rt ard everytime he rings aberr anvmore r salivate. r.think rt r" -g-"tli;g
to be sort of old hat. rtwas less than one vear ago that tiris *.i-ieroned to C_i-ana ""^i .L.ffthe residenrs "t ti,"t ti;e p;;i"r;J*-il 'I'tinx the road access asproposed by the deveropers wourd certainr.y be adequate ror" c_r-- --
deveropment' r think -ttut ,ouia *l---qrit'" ir."rv. . r have a probJ.em in mymird wirh the c-2 zonirg ard parktard a;;il;;t righr dovrn the road. rthink t,.at should be addressed. f ti,i"f "i"Iq
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"or. Chinese $ratertorture here, rhis arso raises rle issue oi-iirip =.;iil ;-";! .iiEi. i.my mird still, that has
-been 3,_r,"_*", SoG G"f. tfri* ,y"*" .i".-^i :r"aforesee thaE there is a nice parking Lol here arE a ntce empty lot behirrlit.and as they say, they- wilf **. -L.i."..V ].u. .nO propose a moreintense use to be able to get a return on ti,6ii investment. r see that wehave lard behind this that-can be rezoned o.-uJa.""="a a year from noe, r,riththe parking rot in plaoe rrith a potenti"i io. i-2. r think thar if thiswere to even be considered as.being lEssed, thut no, is the time to lock ina lorq term commitment from these !"opi" ti,uJ ti," .".i oitirir-i.;;f,iremain c-1- they mentioned the ciaire;ia ."a -ti,"
Bonaventure as exampres oftheir work ard that is :eltainll Ueautitui property. I also stop arrl thinkof t,'e high traffic that goes aiong with itl--i question the traffic flow,not out of this back rp on 64th to ItI 4I, but out of this western on Oriolearourd to TH 7 and I,m not going to be convinced .that traffic isn,t going toflo$, botfr ways out of this devet-opment. i-dl; that one other issue thatr would rike to see addressed, is the one of the Lightilg an.i-r" gJi.J'inEo this comprex. r think that any parking 10i d.=.*." riohrirn -Fr.,.i ghgstardpoinE of prorecrion to- the shoppe.= un6 r cni"r-irr"r.-"i;if ul':h"concern given to that same lighting ard the effect on trre resiJenj-,r-*"neighborhood.
Robert Sommer: I live on Chaska Road probably a Iittle less than a halfmile from Ehis proposed development. I don't Lrtrave a quostionl i eu"". it relates .., ."-r'nJin:.T#?il:""rTi Lipril/y t9 what is going on very much in.*re frairl-Uririo. il;il'LF,,gathered, tiey wanted to put in an office uuirarng and this i" no rong".feasibre because tre office buirding situation is overbuirt. obviouslythey didnrt do any rnarket research before. I'm curious ii tf.,"y-;;";."any markeE research on this. !'rhether a shopping center is needed in the
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Sardy Hltnam: f live on Chaska Road which is across TH 4I from this. IHT"?r[*.ti"?t ::':"'*' o.E is r '- ]o.-"-=. that traffic wirl, insteadontocri="r.affi:;.i+_T:iifl {'A#*Jii,#..i5;,1'nff .:::#;
devised, is stricrlv a resl-aentiaf ;;,; i". " *r.o,, road, it is not awerl maintained roi most of trre ume.-'rt i'th* .o.r".* r have is that ithas only teen a vear since tnG-ul"J*d5. " r ."*..b". well at theplannins r,reetino-one of th";;;f;ii'tff oouncir sayirq onoe it,sH#":ii},:-.'"iil#;i":",.#{*,.d-*:*c:;'i"+,;;i;"..*nsider rhat those or * *i'o-ii*,E*r.'ol'.1!r'nftli;"J HT"il: fr"i:primarily financiat investnent._ f ...ilr"- aiua ti= cormercial use has afinanciar investmenr p":_p:!:_n:i -rl *i"nIJ* our homes rhis area wasR-L olr homes are our prinary financiai i.rlr."t "nt. It affects ourfinancial status, t. ":::^;lE.;H;:";htU of life that we exrEcred whenr.ir lurchased. l,lo$, tuE gave once arrl f tirinf< lt 1s enough.
John Schumacher: I live on North Manor about two blocks !.rest of theproposed change here. r g-uess .v G.ll"iir."I9 b", it seems r.re were herea year aso and rhe -*+ *t*i ri,ilc_i'ri""i.g-;d-"rl?vi;;il=;.neighborhood $ras pretty t.p.ey."ittr-Lru--t-;; # are wondering why thepeople, how they "., *1. 1i.i"1 ".a p.titlJ. l=o "*n fox a c_2. wtry can,twe jusr reave ir witn 1,c;t,rt l" t.p# *"i'ariLua. rE seems ro be rlrcgenelar consensus of opinion i" .nr;:;;h;.n-ooo to. rrftat its r^rorth.
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As to how the applicant can request a rezoning action. Our ordinance doesnor sriputare a rime lim_ir__.. !t5. "yt.i-;;.;?.:= a lErson or prorErryowner can apply for rezoning of their p.op".iy.... That is an irdividuai:::i:"y. any protrErEy own6r has ."-.&"[i.l; rhe ciry for rezonins
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Mayor Hamilton: rerhaps Doyg, on9 of your Seople should respond to thelighring question anl you! three Iots 6" tt-nir-rtt, ,t"t rco.uil ni"JJ"r"nfor orere ard lour m.r-ret reseii"t, erJi; "u,nress t;; d;;,;-;#i"il,respord.
Doug Arndt Jr.: t{c, ere are.T9.. I},"n happy to respond. We want to qivearr the answers we can possibry give. tt-i't". roG
--to- *.-r"irir", L'i." i,I:_ry.:€:" of signing an agreement with trardees Ehmily &staurants on thecorner LoL Gr the secord we haven,t aetermi-nea ? ,*t;;-G;.-*-idio*ry$re qEnt some time on the pro[Erty $rith the pranning c"*rl"'"i." on?io.a.ymorning ard listening to ti.,..iru.io g. th;",rgh tte lears..r: i" J. i.iigout of the intersection,- it-is rathei .rcisy-inA .h.A-;"*;";"J ili'ru *suited to that corner. As far as ti= ,*fltllsearctr obviorlsly, theagreement with Hardees f-or _their re=t"urint, Gey don't go into anythingblirdfotded. Ttrev know. tur-r r"^* _ylJ-tE;'TE gLttins into ..r: -tL- *.ythe nurnbers worlc As far our- 2g,060 sqaanie ioot retaif c€nter. Like Iirdicated, we have close to -sgt oi it;;;-G="d without anything in writingy.et, obviously, so we have done reseaich "" tir.t basis and these aren,tjust short term mom ard. pop tre" oG-J"*, ii"a of the leases we aresoins. to be. enterins tntg a5e.ii."-"'il-a;i".i reases uacrJ-iy Liiitenants. They aren't iust irdividuar stoieJ -tir"y are good quar ity tenantsthat will benefi t the -area.
Counci lman Geving: E(cuse me. I think the question vras addressed to whatmarket research have vou done to show it isnit suitabre to ort'ce utiiaing.I Silf everldrody accepts. that y9u tave peolre who are inter".r"O in ;i"for this other use, but what *"iket res"lr"i., L,r. you conlucted that sa)6it isn,t sui.tabl-e for office use? .
Doug Arndt Jr-: the market research that we have done is talked to alr ofthe.major deveJ-opers in the T'rein cities area that are doing office a;office warehouse- !'rone of them- indicated. any in_terest in buiding anythingon that corner at very reasonabre rand pricei. you have arr see,i .# -ii...o
the nuir cers they are paying for land in pllmouth, Eden prairie andBloomington arrf we are way below that ard i}-y u.. just ffat noiinterested. the other thing r said, the suiiiuun center across the streetwith a major national tenant as the lead tenanr, tfe uuirJi"g-i.l; "--'
foreclosure- rhat speaks for the office markel in that "aa..
- r'.".rotsayirg ten years from now-it might not be there. we wourd rike to fut anoffice buirding as the buffer b6tween or. ..till store and residentiar.area -
Sam Stern (Attorney for Tomac): I wanted to clarify something. . n Tomacwas in last year they did not ask for c-1. rn facc-ttreiJ;;;';o* ,ron.I.n
a year ago as to whether or not tle office deveropmenE on that cor:rer wourdbe appropriate. They felt at ttrat time C_Z ,o"ia'U" .";; ;pp;";;;; ";it was the councirrs decision to go with c- t- ut-tnut ti*". so iE is not aguestion of coming in trying_ to get c-t ard coming back. rn fact wtrat tteydid, given the interesE of i}re n6ighboinooa in"p.."erving as close Eo aresidentiaL basis as
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r feyelonmen! which responds to ttre other issue. there is absolutely rroil:":l_l 9o Tyqilg other than rhe c-r. r think it wouia be i."ir,"raytor Tonac to think tllat the Council rdould approve anything. Staff hastal,ked about the transition that they woutd l-ike to see bdtween R-l ardc-2- there is another point arxi ttren r witl sit dor.rn, but we are h"." toanswer questions. In 1968 the generalized guideplan for Chanhassendesignated the southwest, ttre- pioperty that we aie talking about, asservice commercial. rt wasn't uni rszz that a rew zonirfo ordinancedesigrrated it as R-1. so initiarly there was some thought that it wis aservioe comrnerciar oriented area ani given the traffic rio" iJ ji"*, ?.o.cbanlEssenrs point of view, itrs presen"" as ttre introdrction tJ trre city,it seems_ more alpropriate, we believe fox C-2 in that corner thanresidential with ttre transition to C-I which we hope..r, U"-a.-.r"fop.a ,ittth.. C-? deveLognent that we propose now. then leavirg th" R_1;-;t5;";*,as it is.
Beed Etecker: I would like to address the lighting situation. Itrere is anordinane in Granhassen for shierded rightinj ard iightirq i. t"a"r. --
market, the lighting that. is. avairahre is as
-good as-ttre iigrrting trr.t yo,see on the board r-p here in that there is a d6finite ri,E ;;aii;i"q tL
i!Tl!l-_ej;1 yltl ,s..ry.Iins-tot rishrins we can shierd trr" iighii"s-"orE. rr.ghts the parking lot but- does not go, we wouldnrt even lighf the C_Iarea let a10ne the residential area, beJause we can contror it that finelyby toda!6 modern lighting starr:lards.
Mayor rramilton: rccording to my notes there is one issue that has not beendisc.ssed by staff or Tomac ard -that is tle relationship of ti. c-z
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district in proximity to the proposed lterman iierd parkland. r beiievethat vras a questions that hras brought l4).
Dacy: Maybe I could ask for clarification on the questi.on. Are t}leyregardirg to the drainage issue?
Mayor Hamilton: Ilc, I believe the question was about the park being soclose.to .the proposed deveropment ard what the impact wourd be on tfo park
.*l*.n it i! op"r, and Snople using_ rhar park in suc]n close p;";i.ily;; ;-high traffic area as I understo& the luestions. who ask'J 'ii= -qir";;;,
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Bob Wagner: yes, I am concerned with, as you expressed, the intensity of aC-2 develognent in relation to the parklarxJ...
Monk: that is the approx imate location. I'm not even sure of th. :xactsize. The lard that the ci..ty presentry owns is designated, we ar ,."ili.i.,gto as tbrman Eield, there is proposed a roadway access, gravel roa(r,.rayaccess from the corner interesection of orioli and oatir.'- rr=-cilv 'n]l
rooked at running into tiis rocarion with crea.ion of a very "..ii ti"rr"rparkirg lot in this area.for Iimited uses in this corner. Those beingplaygrourd ard other active areas, but this has always G""-;;;; u"-li" ,uyto drive into the site- We_ are.also working on presently having oner accessthat comes into the backside, tle piper niaie sui:aivision which is not sho$rnon here, ard we are lookirq at tlying to a6qui re an easement along the lot
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line in this area so Eople could wark arong the end of Forest circle tomaximize the amount .f p.d;";;i; ;;;;fi;H.i cDurd set inro rhe north ardwesr sides of the pa.rk. -, the- souEh sid" Lir;L=i"ariy wtilni--i'r.aryIErt of the reqional rErk. As far as =ap"auiion of uses, we are notanticirEtins. a- rars" Liiiic;";;""E ;ffi ill. this rErk. we doanticipare limired u"" y]t},. *ty b""l;;ii; "uir in child,s batl field inthis tocation, not a futt size u.fi-f-i"r.E 'ain o*;h.i"-Uil; ;;*accomprish most of this through pea".lrian -use. tt v "..l.iitiiery croseand r guess alr r can ao. is st-ate w...--trr" fr.* .*r."a.. some Gcnfrict inthis area as vehicres attempt to "om" aorn- rli u* the 6urk, but r baven,t&[L:." pa.rticurar thoughi t"v*a tr,"i u"i[,"t i" ti,J =ii*ti." .i it
Mayor l,amilton: r r',ourd rike to ask nr. sereringer if you courd iust qive," y?y ideas on the park, if you think th";hrr.l; t;;;; ildffiril"*
X""ir.urfrEl"=sins on nr 41 to set to that p.ir. on.. it i-, i.""r"iJ]-^ iu tr,.
Mr. Sweringer: I did make_ r.eference to the park but I am thinkinq that theintersecrion of G4rh ard rrr 4r ana right *-,-ritr, ,-*v-iiali"'i.'lti#'."it,. it is very difficult to cross f..,i* eiti, ,.ioss TH 4I. I don,t know ifit is too close to tH 7 or not but f ti,i"f tir"t is going to one of thetoughest issues there especiarly a"pena i"q *-ort"t t"pp..i t" w."t Jil rngnSchool ard the potential sare oi thit. t;;;p. another 7g to LAg catsmoving in and out of there dair-y- r "tiri aoi.,lt feer the question of tfrosefront lots was addressed to my iatisfa"tion.-- r'* stilr concerned abou.that. - As far as the park goe!, I don,t tf,i"X tf,.t l. going -to
be .ii*t.Agreatly. the north lots, Lots 2, 3 arrl 4. ft" oo with Hardees. Itc onehas ever discussed whether there vrould bq-a sJona fast food restaurant orwhether it would be a servicre station. nitr,.i-tt those tr,ro rots wourdcertainly impa.ct on traffic flow and I tafkJ to several of the majorservice stations, Food-n-Fuel t14:e companies. They have to have a-vistamounL of traffic. Ihey. have to pump several mill-ions q.il;;iq;-i"order to break even on lhat arrl tirat'requi..= . fot of dars. tra,, "t-'course, has concerned me because everl.thing is going to exit on eCtir-.naIH 4I.
councilman ceving: r berieve Birr, r did have a question that I didn'tsee an answer to, or r didn't hear it and that was the cost of maintainingand r4,grading G4th street. r don't believe that was addressed errr. uuyu"you can ans,wer that. IE asked who was going to pay for the upgradinq.
Dacy: It is a condition-of approval that the applicant be respon. , ie forupgrading 54ti Street 100?.
Councilwoman Swenson: May I point out though, that is onlv uDoradin., it_only to the IoE line of rhe developer so from thar poin! # #i;i;';"'.."stiLl dealing with a very small rold.
Councilman ceving: I just wantd to make sure BiII's question gotanswered .
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I Mr' sweringer: r am probab)-y the most immediate neighbor outside of Janard Harry Reed, anl the peopLe who live o.r'-tr," uu.r."ide who wirl be bermedby the development. r ah the one tnaf i" golng t9 look directly from myback porch right into tne .ie..- - I "r**i'r=ii i.t"h gt 7 ant rH 4L There isno question in mv mind _ttrat this is u com*lrciar corner. rrm lit dav arralnight by the shor-ewood shopplng c*r-G;;;" more r.ighring isn;t!6i'g toaffect me, and as a mattef of i."t, -tt
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oounci rman Horn: r would like some clarification just to make sure $re areall urder the same understarriing. Ii;-"-;;tood erhat the planningCcrnaission, s recomendation *., it-l,." a;;;*" onJ.y [ot 6.
Daqr: yes, that is correqt.
Councilman Horn: tot 6 then would be what we have planned for thisdevelotrment, r.vould not allow a tr"t t.J u"iaL* on Lot 4.
Hil a:tJ?"amaintain tot 4 as c-l' and onlv rezone ror 6, it would only
councirman Horn: Mv major concern is that if we create major traffic aronghere, arri that same -conc_e_rn I had last time i Iooked at this, people aregoing to make a riqht orf of oriole r.n"'i.,a'uu"* onto 1,7. you don,t everconsider intensifvil rrris areas G o.t;rb;; crosed off to Trr 7. r thinkthe senerarion ot-trirtic.a;; r"-r';ii= ;i;s the esress ro rhisdeveropment is the onrv ttring th.t -m"14'"#":
but r don,t think it wirlhappen with oriole opei.
f:::iti;ffi.rjEt?:h, !,row r think, why don,t we consider Hardees. rs thar
Dacy: yes.
Counci lworoan swenson: So that roould not be allovred in a C_1 district?
Dacy: ThaE is correct.
Counci I woman S$renson: I,ly main.concern with this is Ehat we are talkingabout a lot that is proper Uf.ocf, tiral is^.'p'Ioir..a",y G, we are ::Ikingabout Lot 5.
Dacy: Maybe I misurxlerstood your previous clarification. they arerequesrins rhe Lors 3, 4 ?{ o r" iu^n.a--rJ d_'z oua rhe planninq
ffH".";rg. only recommend"a r.!1,--uu-iT"'".il1"* srilr hords for arl
Counci I woman Swenson: My.1]oI concern is when $re $/ent through thisbefore, arri seems ro me wl al-t lrad 1-E .t l.Iiu"n.. on ir, is that we aregoing to have a lot of interior traffic
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back on sandpiper to eliminate this corner of T-41- arri TH 7. r am very muchconcerned with tlle iunction of G4th ;;-'ffi ;i. whi Ie tle developer isplanning to utr)qrade G4s B:t ,"a r^LJi"t..*trs rot line, we arJ stillwirding r:p wittr a verv small, ,r"ry nu**-"t.."t fao^ E4th to Orio1e ardH: "iT;l s=""f; "o"t'*rv;'.=;;;-th;"j' intenred for residenriar
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and..setrins ou.i-r,"i.l glu luy or another *. frffUTi:fl H:t#,ESat Hardees. r just don't i*6 it" -i; ir'I sr..i.,g..,s viewpoint. rot 6ts a conceivable sitr.,:tion witi, .
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Counci Iman Ceving: A yea-r igo I think Council- looked at this request very,very hard. Afrer a roi of aiscui"i;;;'";;;i revreh,, ant r asree rhat BobWagner,s file is as biq as ours, we probably have twice as many papers onthis whore subiect *[_.:_" h;;'Gi'ifr;iil Im worrirs with for r]re rasrthree years. I think co-uncil .*.*_, .;'j;;-;;;"."ion in convertinq this.residentially zoned property to C_1. fi ,.J-u- a."ignation that r ieltuncomfortable with but.I did feel tf,"Jit-finlUy solve the probLem that weworked on for the lasr .three y."5".- i;-il; surprised thar it iscoming back to us again-for another foof.- ifil= takes a lot of our time, ittakes a lot of our Staff.s time aJ qr-i* f._IfV I think if th_. devei,operhad made his marker ".T_y:! rt" tiri"- rrJ .ffii.* rhis back in 1983 and1984 ard 1985 aqain, then I think ," ,orfa.,,i-L here tonight, ard maybe ifhe has problems with his abifity t-S;t;#i"Jspace in this area, ,nuib" ,"oushr ro converr ir back to .esiae.,tiJ #;;; u;; i; .rc-.[-iii"i'In".:.s really sellinq todav. Secondly, i-ti,i"i.-tnlt the action of the Councilhas been very coisisteia. ,nq a.niir "i'tn iig'nar application from c_2to c-l meant thar the councir Lrad ;"ii ;;.&i".tr,. _inrensity and densityof this planned area ro make iE i ,".i"-"i-uiliesidentiar disrricr. orrsecond acEion in the same respect was to approve the Randy Herman,s piperRidse developmenr. rt *as oniy 1w"i; ;-.i#l"i tr H;;id;';"..;["nice, high quality residential .r";. '-fti;;;y?
approvea rhe evenrualdeveropment of Herman Eierd, arxr r tninl-.ii'tili." or those actions kird ofgave an indi.cation to the lEople who lived in-tlr" ur". that we areattemptirg to make a very nice residential .-i* fo, yoo.. W" ,.ni-to f.""gr'rhat is there at least. _ t{y concerns ur. tirut--r have no idea whaE ,1rhappen to Lots 3 arrl 4 if we-go .f"nq ,ith-lh. itunning Comrnissic; ,recommendarion to rezone_ _and w91f wlgtr just Lor 6. r i; ;;-il. j.rree, orthis Council has no guarantee, thaE if "-" u;e t; approve thaE, tfnt nextyear we would be looking at t Es 3 and 4 and subsequenu.y r,re would belT\iy ar eventually.r,ot Z "na S. ttre wnoie itring is really goinq ro bea mess. I think r.re will co_ntinue to f ight ,iln- mr. developer in terms ofwantins somethins *ot" T-:iI: 1, *ia Jltr i"i I thoughr we gave rhem amajor concession in designating this to C_1. lfcw, if in fact the developerdoes have 502 of 29,g66 square feet of rent]l 0i a reta, center already
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r committed, werve got Lots of ptaces in downtoern chanhassen for thosepeople. I r,vould like to see you bring them downtown. Finatly, i aon,tthink. anything has realry changed for -me in tt" y.u. sinoe we last lookedat this and as far as .m concErned the whore area should remain c-r. rhatis the errl of my coments.
Courci lr+oman Watson: Ele said a lot of what Irve been feel ing sincer^'e meE rast June which r hras otposed to at the time. r uJ-.-uip*iJ ,ittsomeorE in this area and r had-a chance to drive oriote arral 64th street,attempt to cross IH 4l at 6-4th to go onto O:isfa noaa ard it is iust aboutimpossibre as werl as the fact ur"-t ur;;; "i. .ili",r!rii."t i.iJ' "'streets. The homes are- relatively close to these street-s. you are rEvergoing to nake them any bigger- tha-n th"t ";; ;;r. rt can't be done withoutputting- those people practitalty i" ti6 .iaai" of the road, so I feel ardrnve fert even more strongly si-nce r ala tirii-trran r did when r voted no onthe-C-l in. the first place. - I understard *rul tf=y $rant to ;*.-i;-;;!lf:T . high. gual-ity develognent. r,ve never teira anyone-;; Ur";;r"gorrq to come in ard orodue a poor quarity deverotrment iru r iluiii ti.rintit shourd go downtowri. rtrey have dpr. ,"'t.--r"t to deverop in chanhassen,r,rerve got places for them. t guess w6 made tfris decision;1i';;;;:nard r didn't want it then ard r aon't wani it -now
ana since they donrt havea use for the C-l zoning, as they inlicated ti,ut tt*y "_,i ,rr"-itl-^'tt,en ragree. r think it should.go uack to residential. rf there isn,t room foroffice space. Ttey are buif-aing t "r"*- "iii.""tovrn ani Highr"ray lg, tleyare buirding houses alr aLong 7g4, ". n""" u a."el0lxnent, and the qentremenvho is ptanning rhis is sittins i" tr. ara1..*;-;#-tJ;.ffi ;;=nYr;'."housing atong the 212 Corr.idor] +"pi.-.." ,iifing to buiLd houses inbuffered areas ever in high -traffib ;;;";-;i-; bet ieve if this wereplanned clrrectry, this w-ourd serr. e"-Lr" pointJ-."t,- u,.'ii,iin"*a ,"selrirg in chanhassen right r,ow i" r"=iaentii houses. we are buirdinq itard r+e are selling it ana tfrat i. *t"I bitng. th"...
l,tayor Hamilton: I quess I_ !,avg many of the same concerns. I felt thatwhen they rasr requ6stea- c_1 tig!-ti,. ;.;;#;.velosnent was good one,with the exception of a few traffic plJuil'r* Ii,.t existed on that plan, rthought rie c-r was a qood zoni"g t&- ti,1-."iiJ" or pro.Erty. r think thedeveloFnent they have lroposed iJ ""it.i"r,7-nJt .u.uua ard the shoppingcenter looks nice and would probablv l" u'"i..-.menrty to the communitv.yor3 havg a shoppins center rishr u"io"" ti.--nisn*.v-ri"i-r-Ii"i,i"tiji'f i"extremely successful and are are proposing prtting some of the same thingsin this gr-rceninv center that "..-.ontuin&'in
-iirt o.*. r,m not sure tiratthey wourd be any more successfur t... tr,in iir.y are across the street.LoEs 3 ard 4, I guess Irm not convinced if a snohere, pern ps ;i":-*.4 $,ould u" . Ltt"i ;i:::'H ;:?tft:SrS ffJ'Tt 6.. _ swirg it arourrr the corner. r'm noi !*" ,.u. have seen the bestplan.if rhar is goins ro be rhar *uy. i "tirr-ininr c_r, i-iiLJtr,!-"previons plan, I quess r was one of- the proponerrta foa it last time. Ithought it was a -qood olan and I felt ti,ii 'c_i-roou fit nicely in theneighborhood arr: ii woira minimize G;i*. iou wour.dn,t tnve weekerdnoise and weekend traffic and that *." ...t.iniy one of our majorconsiderations when we approved c_f, "o i.-fr*'with tle other councilmembers that at this point C_f. a. . .."ial"tlal corner, I don,t
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think it is a residential corner but there would probably be some murtipretrcusing put in rhere rhar coutd work our nicety. 't;-6'Jfi-;;.d;
cdments that you would like to tlEke, Doug?
Doug Arrdt Jr.: yes, a coq)re. First of arr, as far as rocatino rtp erwe have interest in 'on tt{ 7 ard ttt 4r into a.*"[t*iofr"i,'r?"tr'.'" rff.=""tffi*are interested in that corner not downtoim ctrantrassen "#o-.-tol,,ut.rv"iI.'various reasons.
sam stern: tocation and the traffic frow there that ere don't berieve iscorducive to residential sr that corner ard ". ""*, rru" ."pi.G"ilii"o "rthe neighborhood acknowledging that is a cpmmerciar rocation. as "r.rrlrrr"t,H 7 ard Ttr 4r makes selse lor these peopre ard for "o*. ..u"*,-tti'are notinterested in dorfiltowt Chanhassen.
Doug Alndt Jr.: As far as. tlre traffic ard ),our clncerns about the traffic.we paid a professionar, erg ineer t ho makes hi-s rivirg at tiguil.g-out*;-*,people drive, hrt*re tEople drive _anJ why they &iv5. ro",ir" loi 6! G.f"tin front of you and Irm sure you have ait r"ia it and seen itisconcrusions- tE doesnrt feer that there is a probrem going back to the$rest on 64th ard going back rp 64th to TH 4r, uott tte-st"[e .rrr iiuiii.engineer have said that intersection wirr handre it "" ii i". .;;ii;--designed as rorg as we qryrade G4th which witr take care sorne or trp-'existing problems. tnt is. money out of pocket that we ur. ,iiiing-tosp.rd ard further, to keep the questions ilout keeping G4th w;t -;;
Ureintersection into our .1"" t.h. way it stands, I, as I cone out of Ridgedaleor any number of other shoppirg centers, hav irtg my druthers, wiff aiwiystake tlp easiest way out and going down a narrlw, Ur.py road is noi tf.r6-easiest way- out. If you can get back on 11l 4I if you Tant to go
"asJ-on TrI Zand just take ttre right hand turn onto TH 7, that -is a pretty 6..v *"v .rt.
sam stern: we tarked about alternatives at the planning commission meetinginvorving signage, r don't know if we discussed speed b',r*p. o. wrretner -or
not that would be acceptable, but there are hra)rs -of, ard it i" ."uffy-""enforc€ment problem more than anyEhing else, of conirolling tir. t.i}'fi..If in fact it is going to be, ard it i! acknowledged that this corner iimore appropriately corunerciar, than the issue is, and Tomac is more thanhapIla to work wittr the City and State, how to best assure thatenforcability so tiat we are not running the traffic ttrrough theneighborhood- we have a representative irom the traffic "iray p"opr. h.r"ard ma1fue he can address some of the concerns. r would rike a iur.i airingof the issue so that we are not at least making decisions on fal seimpress i ons .
steve Grow: rrm with parks and Ashmen Associates and r'm a professionartraffic eng ineer. Traffic is a-pretty subjective issue espeiiarry if youIive on a street next to a development such as this, and "L h..re t"u;d,;lot of concerns by ttp neighbors.
. However, we t,ve rooked at tlre trafficrwerve looked at the way in which the trips are going to go in .nd &i;the site ard I think you should keep in m irrl thal in many ways, this isvery excellent access to- the site :rx3 the city Elgineer has agreed. you
have got two right in only's off of major streets -ard it is a-big
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r improvement ,over the previous ore. As far as the egress, going out, wehave proposed that 64th street wirl be qlgEaded betw6en tr,"-"or[r, iiL exituq T.4]. ltre question remains as to wir6ther the traffic alonq 64*r Streetard oriore AvenrE h,irl borher the residents surticien[iy-t;;i; ,p;i,apSrroval. Irm not going .to stanal here and say that tlre-re "orr.i-U-*Vtraffic on that section, but ere, through our 3Urai.s, bef ieve th.a a#.lorrrt be sigrnificanr amounts of traffic. rhe easiesi ;;y-;;a r" "r.ii'tt.64th street to l'H 4r. Ttrere is rrc questior about that ror peopre qoi.qsouth or going back east. I{e have anti.cipatea auut agi-of-;ir:"-L;#i;will go rrest so you havg.4,t of tl= exitiig traffic C; ,.; ;;;;;_y*"I. !,tow $re propose that ye pr:t a sign -there that
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,,fo"if- tifii"onlf'ard r assune that people wtff obi that sign. otfr* i;a;.;-th;ienter into tl,"t bave ro do erith trow mucir time ifGrcs-tog;;;h-;;;o, "p"Iion, how much congestion there is at rH 41 arxr 64ttr str6t which -rie-
believe can be hardled ad€quately. u:ring oif peur. nours,- tire.'."ng.;iionis not going to be significant anl there is not gor.g to be any incentive fortrEople to go through 64th street, oriole Avenue arri make a difticurt left!u* 9t a unsignalized intersection baving to cross four ranes ot rt i. rtis onry in the peak hours where t].,is 408 -or trre tratric ttrat does notchoose to.obey traffic sigrs ard I -can ccne r4r here .ra quot y; nuil"r"but it boits dordn to whether you think that is going to i. irr'ri"i".ii" u"unacceptable. In my professional opinion, it,s not. Thank you.
Doug Alndt Jr.: lro clarify tero things. rhe center across the street thatyou all express interest in is owned by Ryan Construction. ooy p.;i;.;lbdd rhompson is the reasing agent for- thi center. rt n", #n'ioriv-'Ieased for some time wit}l t}e exception of org 2,Ogg "qru." i*t-piJ= tirutis now going to be filled next weei as a g\AgS square foot center. Ryanconstruction, rrm sure any of you that are invorv-ed i" u"yr.y in-it*-'''construction industry, does no! do anythi.ng that is not prtiiiuti..*-rt nu"been.a very profitable center for tleir. if=y i.. "ur.enily consiaeringeither t4rgrading it or selling it ."A tir" -*ri Jwrers will in alleventual i t1r r4rgrade it. tU put our center in perspective, we ire at 2g,A0Osquare feet, they are at 8l.,aa0 so we .ue r".s'tt"il-rr"riid-"i; -'o*i'a ,"are proposing is a smarr, quarity center that is not going to necessarilycomlEte dlrectry across the strit. what we are tryi-ng ti, a. i"-ini.i..ptsome of the people that -Tay- be going to aonaventure or over It Rtd;;;;.lt*y don't have to run all -ti,. ni' io W"y="t -; get a pair of boat shoesor erhat bave you.
counci .*anan s$'enson: tolEfurry they will 0n1y have to run to chanhassen.
l'layor Hamilton: we have a request before us to rezorE 5.4 acres of lardzoned C-I, Office Buidliog to C_2, Conmercial.
@uncilman Horn: As I understard, we couldn,t make a motion to accepE thePranning commission's recorunendation because that is not the."tion-iltor"us. Is that correct? olr action is either to accept or rej ect theproposal as it brought before us tonight.
P?r- I.:, the ptanning Commissionrs action was a rec.(unerdation to rezoneIust ht 5. lbwever, the request still is to rezone l.ots 3, 4 and G to
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Eii".""o can approve it, deny it, approve one lot, trdo lots, three lots or
counci r woman watson moved, ooungi $an Geving seconded for deniat for TomacDevelognent, southwest "oI*1 1f nighyys i LJir ror ttre requesr torezone 5'4 acres of land zo-ned c-r, -orrite a"iiahg to c-2, conrnercial forLots 3, 4 and 6 ard to table tlre iGm onliiit* attorrEy can prepareFindings of Ebcts for denial. All ;;t*i-i; iio. una motion carried.
Daqr: r would recommerd that the council consider the AttorrEy preparingFirdings of Ebcts for denial.
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Mayor Hamirton: r e/ourd entertain a motion to table this item until theEirdings of Facts can be fourd rv tt.' cilv 'ali"i.v.
@uncirwoman watsonmoved and courcitman seconled to taute trii, ill* futil the Fi;di;;"';i-Facts can be fourrl by the city Attorney. ari,-.i.o in favor anl motioncarried.
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Dacy: - r- would like to, if possible, discuss alr three items becauseeverything is interconnected and staff has arso prepared some video tapesto aid in your review of this ?9 r feg Vou. ina,ifgl',r..u"d;";;;;;:;the TV for a little bit here. Wfrlt ye "'." going fo do start by.;;.;;;;';,snapshots.and strategic astrEcts of the four- aI i-qnments for the DroDcrso.ltransmission properrv- The four alrernarives "on.i"i1i-*',.J 5piilir.rongHighway 5 and the fourth option is along ilz iirriaor. ---ve vre'vrD q'
^ . Oelion I_ is exterd ing the transmission Iines from Llre Westgatesubstation along the north side of Highway 5, reaching,18ati, iiiJt goingnorth to the railroad tracks ard then south ard west ir."q th" -i"ii.;;i"t
tracks to the business trErk to the existing 69rv rine t" tt" =.rt-},.-*-
option 2 is just follow the Highvray 5 atignment into chanhassen toapproximately where the -taco shop and cement -plant is, "g;il;T;;;'th;railroad tracks through downtov^ anl do!,n to tfre exisiin{ 6S, k,,-li;.-
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Resolution 8G-34:Mayor Hami Iton moved, Councilman Horn seconded to acceptthe at bility Stud y for Water ard Trunk Line ard Stora 9eFacility hprovements and schedule publ ic improvement heari ng for July 7,1986. A1l voted in fa vor ard motion carried.
P"yt Mr. Mayor, before you move on, I checked with the applicants for theTomac apprication. Thev wanted the 6unci1 to act to table the preliminaryplat. item also to nexr -meeting.. yilJ;;;;"i;" on tie rezoning item andi.*! fg. clarity of the record- to tablt ";ai*; the ptat as rrell untilthat time. r think the. rnotion "+ t;t;;"flr.r.. to the rezoning andjust for tlre clarity of the record. -
Mayor 'amilton: Tomac was preriminary plat request to subdivide 7.g acresinto six rots- rhar is whar vre did ;;i ili ;tih so that is rhe onry thingwe have to deal with that it9m. s9 th.t.;;;"ii;g thar we table thar unrilJune l6th. Iihy r.rould $le want it back tn lr* 1ltnz
Dacy: Because that is when ttre Findings of Facts from the Atlor. r:y,s
office-wirt be brousht back as welr on 6"-;";;ft.-'? i" ilr'='J'.r,-1l* .omake clear that the plat is noE hang ing ""t-*".. rrith no action.
Mayor fhmilton: I guess I really don,t see why that has Eo come back atthe same time we have the Eindings.
Mayor ,amilton moved, Councilman ceving.seconded to table the EEeliminaryplat RequesE ro subdivide z.e Acres tnt6 sii iots r;. r",";;;.iiiirlLl'i..
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Courci lman Ceving: Do these people. tha! you have inch:ded in yourpropos€d assessment arear.hav-
-any inkrini that they "." goirrg, to--tassessed considerable no_nies, fof example- tfre t<erUers S+{,SSd.Sg, ttgKerber Estate gl.].g,ag6.ag. oo you thini if.y-t rr" any inkling that this iscoming at thern?
l,lonk: No, that would be the p:rpose fo1 the gxrbl ic hearing would be toalert aII these prooerry owneis ttrat tfris is bming. Ag;i;, -i-;;?ii y""that the MeIIa i<erLr property has been sold. It is in ttre process ofbeing resord- rhe John'Ic;ber-Estate.- - ia-;; ard the Bernie KerberprolErty is very well ardare of what is goinj on at tlat site. - rte aroseyprolErty has been sold.
Hayor ilamilton: When it sold, did they c€me in here before they pr:rchasedit ard ask if there is goirg to le any'as-s-essnentse
I'tonk: Basically two have ard I told them that Oouncil is reviewing forthis potential but it is nothing- .o." thun I p1.p"""a project at this pointin time but that is the.re.ason f9r the p:bf iJ Lring to senal them out therePort ard let tlem read iL this is "
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5. Tomac Development:
a Request to rezone 5.4 acres ofCommercial on property locatedHwy. 7 and 4I.
C-1, Office Building to C-2.at the southwest corner of
tlilk V9".!ave some.valid concerns and if you lrant action quickly, orat- least if you want staff to consider it quickly, yo" "toifasubmit a petition by the neighborhood. ttrant yoi. --
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b. Preriminary plat request to subdivide 7.9 acres into six rotson property zoned R-I, Single FamiIy Residence and C_1,Offj.ce Building and located at the iortheast corner oflAI and Lake Drive East.Hwy.
Steve Ruegg
Sam Stern
Todd Thompson
Doug Arndt, Jr.
Doug Arndt, Sr.Robert Vanhey
J. D. MacRae
Reed Becker
Stephen Sul l i van
Dennis W. Saar i
Robert Reut imanMrs. David HughesDolores Ziegler
Fay Dudycha
Don Dudycha
Kenneth w, ziegler
sandy Lehmer
Gene Conner
Dacy: I r^rould like to coverpreliminary plat request at
have smaII presentations.
The parcel is locatedknows, there i.s a lot
Packets we did attachreceived and records tprior to that. As you
1610 So 5th St., MpIs
5401 camble Drive, *29U, t'tpLs.
19705 crandview, Excelsior
4225 Northern Road, Excelsior
17L90 3rd Avenue No, plymouth
Heise, Vanhey & Assoc-Arch i tects119 No- 4th Street, Mpls.Heise, Vanhey & Assoc.
2204 Gixard Avenue So., MpIs.Land Design & planning
Wm. R. Engelhardt Assoc.
5 915 Galpin Lake Road
1780 Lake Lucy Road
6441 OrioIe Avenue
64 51 Oriole Avenue
5451 OrioIe Avenue
64 4I Oriole Avenue
6451 OrioIe Avenue
2521 Qrchar d Lane
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petitioned for a rand use amendment for the area from ror., densityresidential to commercial. That request eras denied in 1gg3. Thenrast year.at approximatery the s.me -time, tne pia-nning- clln-^-issio., anathe council considered the present appricant's rand uJe pran amenamentzoning reqlest and plat request. the--pranning commtssioln-i" to tr,.land use plan amendment request from residentiar to -com."..iur
came toa split vote at that. meeting -on page 5 of that meeting ;nd-it i"attac-hed to your packet. *o decisitn courd be reached- on 1t" prunamendment request and the minutes reflected each of the membersparticular findings regarding- the proposed request. The city councilon June 3, 1985 did approve the rand use reque-st to "o..ui.iar and didmove_ to rezone the property, except for the Reutirnan trouse -rrri"t i"lesally part of rhe property, to -c-1, office Boiiel;g-;;"i.i"t. rhepreliminary plat apprication howev.., ,"" tabred "t it.-i.g.est of theapplicant. so nor^r, the. request,- and just for the sake oi Jiarity, ttreIast.page- of your packet should be th6 same transparency. Nov, theapplicant's reguest is to rezone the northeast coinei oi'tn. propertyfrom C-I to C-2 Ieaving the western part of tle prolerly u"-C_f unathe Reutiman Iot as R-I.
r v'ourd like to briefry review the differences as far as the usesconcerned between the c-r and the c-2 district. roi p...iiled uses,the c-t district is strictly administrative, medicai,-proiu="ionar andexecutive offices and arso the c-I districE permits ii".".i"r institu_tions. As a conditional use, C_I district wltt altow hoslilats,mortuaries, research. faciIities and singre r.*iry-"nJ *,ir-ii r.miryuses. The c-2 districr is more intense]-. rt r.riIi pa;*ir-;lneral -retail uses, financial institutions, of t:.ces, restaurants, theaters,taverns, and r qualify tavern use because that is arso goJerneo uyliquor ordinance bv the. ".t3!"." regulations as far on_saie,zoit_safeliey::l dry cleani-ng establish*"nt", ina civic institutions. As aconditional use, it r"/i1I alto$, auto servic" al"ri;;;;- a'ri,i"_irr esrab_lishnents, moters, ho.ters, parking ramls and private'"ruu"'una rodges.The proposed transition is trom ti:e moie inteirse c-2 r"" t-"'the resi_dential area. Now that t-he existing .*u is zoned c-r as Lots 2 and 5deveJ.op-during the site plan review -procedure,
"".."ninj- ilrf U"required between the reiirrentiar are-a and the .o*..i.lu'r ui"u. As youknow, rH 4t and rH 7 are designated us irteriat;.--;;;;i,Jlositionremains the same from I9g5- wh-erein the proposal is providin-g a transi_tion of uses from the.single family to tie c-r office district intothe c-2 district- rhis part of th6 parcel is tocatld .l- i-maiorintersection- we feel that the prop'osed c-2 zoniog i"-ipprop.iate atthe proposed 10cation.. r r^rould rire to move into the plat descriptionin a Ii.ttLe more detail now.
The preliminary plat as you see before you proposes a set ofprivate streets as was-the- plan last yeir, but a right in only off ofIl 7, iiglt in onry off of TH 41 and in intersectio"n o" -ialt street.Arso, different from rast yearis application *"" tt.i o. ior-" Avenue is
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to remain open' To-'ref resh your memory a rittle bit r wir.r put up theprat from rast vear's apprica'Jion.' - y;; can see this was labered asOption No. 2. Tlh.re ,"." 5 options being considered at the time ofthe plat review. However, because the piat *.s tauiel-tieie ,e.ffy ..rr'as no consensus or direction about the' traffic pattern. This was the iproposed request lasr year which did ciose oriot; A;;;;; ani proriae .connection from oriore Avenue to a new-int..;;;;io;'in-is'i'rni.nwourd have required median i,np.o""*".rls and a rigi,i i,rrn"rane improvementonto rH 7' so rhere is a swiich i"-ii,"t tt. pi".JlorrJ-ii.i-ir,... *u=a 1ot of emphasis on the impact orriolri Z but in the proposed planthat is lessened to-a certa-in degree. As you know, the citv isparticipatins in a corridor.stuaf-oi-rH'.2 l"i.iJ.i,"iriv-,iiin adjacentcommunities and MnDot and- the n"lropoiitan council. The corridorstudy is stilr in its preriminu.y "i.q"".. rn fact. tri"v iii hord thepublic hearing in aprii ,na *oie'puuiil'n".rings are schedured for thesummer' possibre comptetion at tie end of the -summer unJ *.you ttrr"fa.1' But the intent-of ttris stuay Is-to roor at the function anddes ign of TH 7 as its functi on i" ti. =."thwest area in a regionalcontext' staff did meet with ttre consutting firm and forerarded theinformation to BRw. the propose; ;i;;-i=_not contrary to anythingthat is now beinq consideied lV-ii,-"-""""ultant. As I said, they arenow in the prelimin".,ly ."t1s":.- In. fiopo"ua plan has been consideredby MnDot. A letter is included in your'packet in which they are ingeneral asreemenr wi rh. rhe proposed' pr;r- ;;;j;";"r;";;;.;ilra""ignrequiremenrs for the right Lani l;;.-;;; of rH 7 and 41. rhis is atransparency of thei.r attachment to their letter. As you can see,they are recommending that ""rliin-a".ifn .uquir.ments for both of theright turn movements]. rney nJ a c Jn-J.-.'n about site signage onsite and wanted to make.ur" tf,ut;;.;;. way traffic in would not bedirected back out in the -same direJfioi"tr,ut-ttrey came.'- io 1n"y "r.ohad noted some sign requiremeni"-.=-r.if. Because of the concernsraised ar rhe Iast appficant durinj the -rast y"r., =iuii-uilorecommended rhar thJ ipp.l icate g"i "-'ii"tri.'u"iry" r "-r! l-iratricengineering firm. Thus incrud"a in youi packet is the report fromBarton-Aschman Associates, rnc. au=i."rry they have iooi^-iinai.,gsregarding proposed traffic planning.
I The intersection can handle the proposed trafficthe proposed zoning plan. Howevlr,- they do haverecommendations as far as traffic improiements.
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Monk: I wanted to start by saying that I think everybody is prettyfamilar with the setting so I wiII forego portions. -To inswer yourquestions, I r.ri11 attempt to ans$rer them as they come out. As far asaccess goes, this plan does rely upon two right ins. One from TH 7and one from ?H 4I. Major reliance, not so much for an entrance butfor an exit, lies entirely upon 64th street. Based on the findings ofthe traffic study that was submitted which r agreed to in almost arrportions, did show that traffic levels at peak hours can betorerated as for residential streets and wirr not reduce or show awarrant at this point based on the urtimate deveropment numbers useddon't shor., a warrant for a traffic signal being nelded on TH 4r whichis of interest to the city also. But there is no question that avariance to a portion of west 54th street would be required with theexception of west 64th street that $routd have to be im-proved far fromTH 4r down to the curb in the road which basicalry is where the entrancegoes into the commercial site. This is just for -location purposesjust to give an overarr view of existing streets in the arla. r did afree hand blow-up of that por ti on of the street to give you a r oughidea of $rhat improvements wourd be needed. This is the iame rine! asyou sa$, on a grevious mag. TH 4I and 64th Street from point I intothe commercial entrance. The improvements to 64th Street wouldinclude widening for two through ranes and then additionar ranes for ar ight into the commerc ial site and for a r ight turn onto TH 4t sothat traffic could be moved in conjunction wlth the recommendations
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that exists now. Ffom the city's perspective I am not real excitedabout the drainage pran becaus6 it'ao"'" calr for "rii"tli.s water thatwill run over the streets. There has been a drainage defitiency inthis area f or some time.- Again.r" to u""t to "n orE rJi .L."a *.pof this area. Drainage froir this "it.." weIl as some airir,.ge fromthe schoor and drainage- from property to tr," "out;-;f ;f.';;ad, al1drain onto the street-, drain iesterrv aow" the street to a low pointjust before y9u get to water, at thG- point lt .o;"" ;ii it-. .o.a,across. basicalry tr^,o properties. This -one here and the one over here.There is no easement. or Jnything, it is iust a r";g -;l-r;&=rg' arai.,ag"way' The water carries across ihat area] rf any atr.i.p."rit were tooccur here, whether it was commerciar or resideritiur,-li- ro"ld be anincrease in runoff and v-hat f ". proloilng if this goes to Citycouncir, that the council give considerati5n to. m i'r,-o.
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neighborhoo!, and r guess th;t is the concept that r wilr be taking tocity. council, but agai, the proposar as it has been made does adhereto city requi rements f or contror of the rate of runof f and the intentfor recommending that r./e get dorrn to this low point, make some stornsewer improvements where pipe could be run down to itris developmentwould again allow u: !o_ or the developer to delete several of theponds in this area which r think wouti be to everyone's benefit and touse some of the ponds to contror the rate. but the-n to pije 1ne waterdown to a better discharge point.
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Doug Arndt Jr.: I am one of the partners in Tomac Development.Thank you for your time tonight. The reason that we are h6rerequesting the c-2 zoning is that there is a need found through carlsand interest in the site. what lre are proposing to deverop on thesite, the southeast c,orner is a 28,e6U ioot f,19[ quality ,!tuitservice type center that wourd be of beneflt t5 trr. neiitruoitrooo anaimmediate area. Not just a plain old strip service "an-tua, but a verynice upscare type project. The reason that h,e discovered the intereii-in it is because cLose to 50% is verbarry prereased. r wouldn,t siythat we haven,t entered into any leases unfif we get through thevarious processes that we have to go through. we have pr"ii.in..yfinancing committed to. the. project, we are wirling to e-nter into thedeveropers agreement the ci.ty engineers has recommended. we came back
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as opposed to what you recal l vre went through Iast year, with aspecific proposar and we t.ried to address some of tie problems thatcame up last year and sorve them as best we can. we would rike to askfor your approval tonight. If I may, I would Iike to introduce ourarchitect, Bob Vanney and with your- indulgence, to give him a coupleof minutes to quickly run through erhat ersare propoling for the site.
Bob vanney, of Heise, vanney and Associates: r am vice president ofthe company and I brought with me our design team, the -pioiect
manager and J.D. t'lacRae fron our office ana if you will,-give us a fewminutes r^, e r,rould Iike to explain to you and sho-w yoo wf,.t'[yp" otdevelopment we are proposing. (They then set up irawings of theproposed development.) As Doug Arndt Jr. said ie are pioposing a21 ,5gg square foot deveropment and before we do get rnio inat r r.rouldl-ike to take a ninute to inforn the commission aid ttre otrrer people.,le have also brought along some ot.her members of our de;i;; team toanswer some questions if you have them, we have Steve Suliivan,Landscape Architect, we hive brought aiong steve Ruegg from Barton-Aschman, traffic consurtant, we aiso have two represeitatives from wm.R. Engelhardt Associates, civil engineer, that b6in9 wiiii.^Engelhardt and Dennis s-aari. rf you have questio".-..g.iding tnosematters $re are prepared to answei them as well.
one of the things that the deveropers came to us with was a coupre ofcharges. First of arl they carne with to us with tire cnaiges that thecity council and planning commission had given them rusi ii*" and thatwas to address traffic issues and to addrLss appropriate de;er.opmentof this site. second of all they came to us w-iih ti," "t"i!" of theowners on this site. . Th-ey. are going to be. here for a fon!-iime. Theyare going to own the buifaing, .unag. the building ana thJy-want theneighbors in the area to sup[ort th; buirding and ietaii J6veropment
llitltil the. building. as p,ail of being a gooi neighbor rhey alsowanted.us to develop a qual i ty IeveI ,ritf,in the c6ntei ii.r-"i tnucommunity would supporC and the commission and tt. .ity-.o,in.if . soas you can see on these drawings, we tried to create, ind we feel wehave done that, created a specilrty retail centei ;;;;.i; provideupscale retail for the area, you can see in ou, piunnino-ii,'ua *"provided an interesring pran with landscaping, tn!-.prji.i.iut. "^o,rntof parking, in fact we provided more park-i ng-'th"n i"'i"q-"lr"a by thecitv rimits, and vou can see in our rlnaeriris th;i-;r-;;;fi'iectu.rexpression of an appropriate scar.e to the adjacent ..ighb;i-and alsowe have used residentiar type of erements to again, ua6iu", tn"appropriate scare and residential feeting. ar"o tir"-'r,"ight or tn"building, and this is plus or minus, about 16 feet. eu"i"urry , on.st.ory buildins. The other rhing we included in rhis ;i;;-;= again, achange from the standard strip center and conveni.n..'giooi-of stores,and that is we have incruded an encrosed walkway. itui-"niro".awalkvray upgrades Ehe center from an occasional ;;.r;;;;.;;l stop in,jump out of the car, back our and off rhe site ro;;;;;;; shoppers
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type of center to come to. Enclosed to be free from the elements andencouraging flow through types of crientelre. As Doug had mentionedea r r i er, rhe reason ws.wefe go i ng ro ." tuli. i-lr,il3 ii""",r.! ar,.a,.donrt feer that the zoning foi an-office buirding -i"-.np."iiiate forthis site' The lever of -traf f ic that is on the site, or around thesite would support the retair- the area needs a i.t.ii-"!ni... wejust have gotten an -enormous response for prospective tenants. wealso feel that an of f ice use on t-his site would-gener.t. o fi.,L. spinoffdevelopments and this type of. thing, in fact other type of things,more conveoience related retail, wilr start to generiie because theoffice workers and tenants there wourd demand t"hat to tr.,"-ii.u. Asyou can see on the p1an, we have the retair center facing internartyin the site. we did rhar for a coupre .i aiii"il"t-i".=1"". one ofthe things that we were very concerned about is the ;;a;; -;xpression
in the center. We did not iant to impose o"to1n. ua-iu"'""I^properties. we felt thar by,rurnins inside ,";;;i;';" iIie to spurdeveropment on the other outr-ots foi the inside ";"t i;g-;-ieveropedarea that becomes an entity io itself. we are arso addiessing a gradechange along TH 4I as you go to the south. The grade i"-uUort fe to15 feet above the floor level of the center, so iather than facinginto the side of the hirl you face inio--our deveropment. r guess thatwithin the c-r zoning, .we ire not asking r". -uny-"5i'iun.." ^within thaLzoni.ng, we will notask for any rezonin-g. we will not need any, $rewould be able to conform very comfortably to all the compliances ofthat zoning. .I guess with that r would iit " to stop oui'poiiion ofthe presentation and entertain any questions the corimissi6n may haveof us or our consultants.
Conrad: Does anyone have any questions of the developers or if youhave any specific things that you r"rould like to clea'r up, i think *.can talk to them or erse r wirr open it up for public hJaring and wecan go i.n and fo11ow up with more detaite.r questi ons tatei on. okaywe wirl open the pubLic hearing now that we have hac the developerspresentation. Are there other comments that people *ouia ii.x" tomake,-that is if you hav-e -some comments, we would sure like you toprecede your comments with your name so that we have that for ourrecords.
Gene Conner: I have a couple of questions. They talk about thintersection of 64th street and the comment was made that theirtraf f ic study at the present time did show that a signal wouldnecessary at 54th Street. Assuming that this deveJ.olment did pbe successful and generated quite a bit of traffic a-na in aaailwhich, the C-I portion-o-f the property was developed and it geneven more traffic, would the state even allow a signal at G4thWhen I talked to the State on the last go around, t-hey indicatethat they would not consider a traffic signal ttrat cl--ose to theintersection of TH 7 and TH 41. Has the State been approached
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Gene Conner: The other concern I have from a traffic standpoint, andI say rtlrr as opposed to saying ,,we,', is you talked about a -sign ;,localTraffic Only',. WeII as sometimes not too perhaps responsible of acitizen, I have been known to ignore ',Local fralfic O-n1y" signsthoroughly when it is more conveni ent for me to go that way th enanother way. Do you rear-ly think a Locar Traffi6 onry sigi does anygood for peopre that use the area frequently and reariy kriow their iayaround?
I don't know whether another possibility would be a One Wayonry east on 54th street but that might pose other problem's as far asaccidents are concerned for the neighboirrooa. : reairy dontt know whatthe solution to that probrem is. r foresee a rot of fraffic comingout of .that job once you go west on TH 7 coming down and going Oown,not exiting on oriore but going do$rn orchard Line to the -next exit sorather than going east on G4th Street, trying to make a lef! turnagainst traffic and then going west on TH 7. I see that as apotential real problem.
Monk: Again r wilr go back to my free hand sketch. what Mr. connersis talking about is basicarry p"op1e coming out of the comnerciar siteand turning right, going througtr ltre devel-opment, using OrioLe androcal streets basically to exil onto TH 7 is a .on...ni one of thethings r am rooking at right now is that the proposar does incr.ude inthe second plan that just was submitted for a- fuiur" *.Lting,construction of this private road with a right hand turn raie toalmost make it easier for peopr.e to make u iigtt hand turn and one ofthe thing-s I would probably rJcommend if that go through, that therebe no right hand turn rane but instead just onJrane colming down sopeopre be required to-wai.t that rong so at that point they-might justmake a reft instead of going to the -.ignt. enot'her possi6rity that $redid rook at eras to curb thiJaround and-basically make the throughmovement into the commercial site and bring this. into a ',T" whichtrould maybe make it a Iittle bit easier f o-r peopJ-e to go out. The
possibirity of a sigpal there in the case of a necessity there in thefuture?
Monk: I have talked to MnDot and I guess I am surprised byyour comment because I talked personally to a couple of Mnpotrepresentatives and was told by two that basicaliy a signal courdbe put there- They hope that the warrants never ihow if. The trafficstudy does take into account estimates for furr development. Not onlythe c-2 but basicarly of the whole site. That doesn,t mean that otherdevelopment from, I don't kno\,, if the owners would seII, but if theywere to develop their property too, and the whole place was developld,the-traffic study didn't warrant a signar. two pe6pr-e from MnDot hadsaid that. I will check it again for lhose counts, but that is whatwas sa id.
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probrem r have with that is that r have never been invorved with aproject where you rrln municipal street directly into a private streetand stop traffic on pubric street, but instead make the pubric streeta through street, so at this point I am not recommending th.t.The thing you mentioned about the one way onry basicarr! does not let j
people coming into.the neighborhood use G4th Street, so -we kind of iruled that out. No Right Turn, basically $rhat you get into rs youhave a sign that says No Right Turn unlels you -live-here. There isthe_s_ame _possibility using.another sign for the same purpose but wewould definitely have to take a look at that. tt woutd Lave to bemonitored. There is no questions that any proposal we are makinghere that we probably would do traffic counts here and take a Look at$/hat could be done. If it did get real bad rre might get into No RightTurn -
Gene Conner: What would be enforceable and probably would beacceptable to the neighborhood is a very low speed limit of 15-29 MpH.
Monk: You coul,d do that, but keep in mind, I am not tryingto find fault with this, but these things have been tried Lefore. Ifyou get a ticket for less than 30 MpH you have to have that speedIimit approved by the State. I can try to get it approved Uy ttreState but they send their experts out, Iook for vertical curves,horizontal curves and if it doesn't !.rarrant a reduced speed, theywouldnrt approve it, because everybody wants their streets to have 15
MPH and they could get thousand requests a year. We could do that. Alot of cities sign their street down but it does become an enforcement.problem because somebody fights the ticket. you canrt uphold inCourt. There are a lot of possibilities I guess that go through mymind on erhat we might do and I haven't made a decison at this poinland I am not making a recommendation on how that would be signLd oreven how it vrould be constructed. We get more i nto that as anyspecific site plan rrould come in and as I said one is in right no!., forthis porti on of the property and then we will have to make somedecisions about traffic islands, and turn lanes and alot of thoseother things. But this is the basic alignment and we wiIl have totake a look at this because the big faiLing is in that right turn.This is not an answer so much as it is an acknowledgment of tneproblem.
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Gene Conner: The first gentlemen said there was a need for C-2 zoning. I hope nobody will object too greatly if I retranslated
tha t as I heard it to if we are going to be able to do anything withthe property we canrt do it as C-1. I see that as their need, notnecessarily as our need, the City of Chanhassen,s need. The archi.tectsaid that the CityCouncil gave them a format, a charter theycould have an appropriate plan. As I recall the City Council's action
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concept, and r view this, and prease donrt misunderstand this becauseJ rhlnk the plan they have toda-y is i"iinit.iy u";a;;-il-";";;.;=;;;;=had before, but my intitial reattion was weli here we 9o igain.Even though I see this as a lot better, I don't think- i "p.l"f just formysel f , i.n the prev ious go around I have to admit that I iad g reatconcern with the con-cept of creeping toward commerciarism.- rne restof the property wilt remain ,on.a i_t for the a;;;;;a;;;;. rf itdoesn't develop as c-1, then they wilr come back and ask for c_z torthe rest of the property. I think that bothers us.
Conrad: I understand your concern.
Dolores Ziegler: I live right next to the property. I think itshouLd be go back to residential again.
Conrad: Where do you live?
.Dolores Ziegler: I live next door, on Ehe vrest side.
conner: Bob wagner and r discussed to make a specific proposar that itbe rezoned residential.
Mrs' ziegler! That was discussed rast time.. why shourd we keep goinghigher and higher because you have to live there.' on" .o.u-tt,ing, fastfood and Hardees wasnrr evEn brought ul tn tri"-.L.lirg:--" '
Dacy: r think the map you are referring to is encrosed in the trafficanarysis reporr. yes, exactly rishr. 6h.t the ;p;ii;;.;; neeo to dofirst is apply for a rezoning-and get the plat "pi;;r;;--;; fore usescan-be built and proposed on the site, and- that is tn.-u""i" for thewhore rezoning request. what the commission and ""un.ir-i"" t"decide, is thi c-z' district for those it... 10ts appropriate with theunderstanding rhat the c-2 district wilr arrow r.ii'i.5J, -Jianoara
restaurants, and the conmercial center that the ;ppfi"i"l iu" no,shown you tonisht. so the_acrion ronisht is for i;;-;;;;"i;s requesr.rf the.councir denies the c-2 rezoning -request, then obviouity thoseuses can not be rocated on the site so they are starting-ail o,r".again I guess.
Jay Johnson: 9496 saratoga Drive- what kind of shops or whateverare going in generality_are vre taLking here. Are we iarking a HardeeswiIl be inside here or Brauns Eashion-s or $rhat type. Wtrii,..u ,"looking at for this type of building?
Doug Arndt Jr-:L The types of tenants that would fit withinthis specialty retair, ll _we ca'I-li;-";a I wiii-give vor"s;n..urcatagories because it. r.rou,Idn't be appropriate at 6fri" [ir",to mentionany specific stores, but I think rrim tiris rist and ttei.-alscriprionr think you can ger the seneral iaea. -tne spe"iiiiy-g;;;";; srore,
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Thompson: The layout we areIots above that e/ould be C-2
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specialty hardware, 6oat accessories, wome,-l's sportswear, menssportswear, men and womens shoes, hobby sccre, a medium range Eohigh range liquor store, not a discount liquor sEore. ThosE arethe types of tenanEs that_we are looking for and that the developmentis pursuing and have had interest in a [reat deal .
Jay_ Johnson: What is the back of the properEy supposed to belooking at? You have drawings of the iront oE thi-property, the
!".-f gI the_properry would be toward rhe highway. is ihat-concealedby hills and shrubbery or are the res ident s -looicing at backdoors andgarbage cans ?
Doug Arndt_ Jr.: Two things. There will be no garbage cans onthe site obviously. We iril l meet all city ordinancea forconcealed trash containers which is built into our site p1an. Ifehave got an expensive and extensive landscaping plan proposed.
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Conrad: For some of us this has been imporEant, for some ofyou I don't know if you have been around to hear some of the past,hopefully you have read some of the history, there has been a- littlebit of history Eo this and I hope thaE you have toured the siEe. Thathelps a lictle bit. Mike you have been here before, I am going rostart with you as far as cotrtrlenEs or questions to the developei and
comlenE s on Ehe rezoning .
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Dacy: This IS correct.
Thonpson: Then it came back and then this r^ras zoned a year ago?
Dacy: Yes.
Thompson: Eor some. reason.this,was just a guide plan but I guessmaybe it wasn't. you seem to refer t-o ttre fact that when it vras herebefore we didnrt have a consensus, and I guess Iooking at the minutesr $rould have to agree with you, but .y .""trr""tion oi tLi-meetingwas that we did have some consensus is trris -iss;;-;;;;;d" iro,o tr,uPlanning commission. r sort of felt that at that time the probrem wasthat what s/e rr,ere dealins with w;; rr,.Ji,Liii';"'";;i.n,,J" ro"
residentiar or commerciai and r tt in[- t-r.," t we arr agreed that maybe itwasn't a single family l0cation rut ti,ei" was some other residentiar.uses or if it were commerciar ,. *..u iooking fo;-"-i;;; iii"n""commercial use and at that time the c-i-was d"=".rLJto o"1..=o" c_rwe chose C-l because rrre thought tnat mayUe C_I was more compatiblebecause we were introducins into a i..l1i.rtl.i i""iririiir,".,l'Jt"commercial use. r thought 1tr" ,n^ioiiiy or o= felt that C_l wouldwork, now maybe I am yronq.^ Obvi-ousLf it went to council and that iswhat happened, am I correct?
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the -proper ty tha t tf,.y f,ua "[".i] i. ,"""proposing for that rezoning?
Dacy: Do you mean the applicant,s specific use?
Thompson: yes.
Dacy: Not that I recall.
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point the developer dropped his request for final
acted on land use olan amendment first then the rezoningthen at.the requesr of the "p;ii"";;, ;e preliminary platwas tabled. So there was no action on thL p1at.
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Dacy: I think in your evaluation of the zoning case, you have tolook at r^rhat a C_2 dis-trict is going lo affow. you have to feelcomfortable with the_ uses propolea in itrat they can Iocate themr.rithout any adverse impact-be6a"". ".t"'lu i; ;o,.,;, -JJ-iJr'*""ar
know,then uses that are permitted Uf ilS;;"d" have the tegat righr roIocate on this parcel.
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Dacy: That is correct.
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Thompson: Eor instance, lets say that we Iooked atfavorable basis, and right befor6 us we have nothingwe have sho$rn. you haven't presented us with " pi;;
Dacy: No.
Thompson: Unless I an overlooking something, I have no p]-an in mypacket for that property. AlI r hjve is a pi-ece of p.op"ity that theywant to go c-2 and in that par t icular plan we donrt even show what theother tero rots wourd be, so they courd be any use that c-2 wour.d alrowat this point.
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is.a double edged sword. If they did comesite plan for a commercial building and t!.roout sites, everything is approved at once,proposaLs are dropped by the three proposalproperty zoned C-2 and then anything can go
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Thompson: you couLd make it a condition of that zoning, couldn,tyou? r know that some communities for instance, they inipose a puDordinance based on a specific plan, saying thaE this-pariicurar pieceof property can have this type of use 6ased on a puD r.rhich has to beapproved specifically and that specific pran has to be approved and ifit isn't there, then that use isn't allowed.
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Thompson: You. would agree that this particular piece of propertythough is a fairry sensitive area basLd on the residential oppositionthat bre have had in the past on this?
Dacl.: That is why staff felt that it was imperative to keep thec-l buffer betr.reen the residentiar areas. Er6m the previous plan thec-2 area wourd touch the corner of the Reutiman prop;rty and Ziegrerproperty, however, under this proposed traffic pian, wtrit is beiigproposed is a reservation of at least another sirip of buffer there.
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Dacy: Yes, I have an Affidavit of Mailing.
Thompson: To make some additionar comments in reration to this,r wourd rike to point out that some peopre dontt consider the shoppingcenter across the street as a successful shopping center, if you woufdat lea.st this point of the stage. I have treaia inem "uy'tt"t. Idon't knoe, if that has changed in the past couple of years. I guess Iwould like to hear some other comments before i decid6.
Siegel: The only thing I have to say, that it seems to me that thisrs-a-very nlce pran for the center l0cation. r am concerned that thec-I designation here would be eventuarly changed to c-2 iiso woura uefor the citizens benef it have to come be-fore tie. pran"ing -c;mission
again or if approved, that wourd be a serious concern. other than theexpress comments from the pubric and engineer about the trafficproblems, I think it is appropriate usel
Emmings: I tend toward, yes, I think the C_l is very appropriate andtlle
-c-- ? is- very questionable on this site and r think that r read thestuff in the packet and yes, r am firmry convinced that tiairic is aterribre probrem and r know, that ther-e is no doubt-in my mina trrattraffic is goi.ng to go.down. Oriote to get up to TH 7, thire is just nodoubt in my mind at ar-r. That is the iay r think r ,oriJ-g1 no matterwhat sign was up there. I guess I am troubled by the ordei ofdeveropment too- They wanted commerciar use and they got that lastyear and now they $rant to go C_2 because they don,t tr-a v-e ttre demandfor c-r. c-I is supposed to be the transition bet$reen the c-2 andneighborhood and there doesn't seem to be enough demand for them to bebuilding it. rt makes me wonder if thai transition is anyihing thatis.ever going to be real. . Maybe the presence of the shopping center,which r think is a very nice pran, r iearry rike it, r r"irry have notrouble with it at arr, but what if the c-1 is never buiit.- wn.t itthere is never a demand for c-1, then we have rost the transitional
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Thompson: I take it that since there is not a Iarge group of peoplelike.there.usuarly is, that the deveroper has rraa iei{rrroitrooa-meetings with arr the neighborhoods over there and reiroved alr of theopposition to the proj ect.
Dacy: There was a meet-i,ng on saturday out at the site for planningcommission members as well as the homeowners.
Thompson: Does it show on the pubric hearing notice as to who wasnotified based on this?
Dacy: Yes. Approximatel-y 4A-50 people were notified.
Thompson: Did all of those peopre received those notices about 10days before the meeting?
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::: _b_..l".".r the properties and I think that is very important, thatcransrtron- r wourd be. a _lot happier if the order -of divelopment weredifferent and c-r were being u"iit no, and the c-2 later. That is a ,huge- parking rot out there in front of this prace ina it -rr." qot to be .jv'e11 rit and ar-r of rra.r.righr i.s going to b"- washing intoih;;;igh;;."i
1.f9t gf, people are shaking their nead-s, I guess I am- wrong abouttha.t, if you vrant to addrels that, but i *oufa certainly U6 in furro.of -hearing about that, and yet the C-1 would be awkard ioi ttut tigntand r donrt see the c-r being buirt. r guess r i{onder do they thinkthe presence of the shopping center wouli bring in .oi.-interest inthe office type development?
Doug Arndt Sr.: I trould like to speak for the whole group. I havebeen a developer for my whore rife, and am currentry riitr,'tte Krause-Anderson company and I am responsible for the shopping ""ri.,developments for Krause-Ander ion. we are not peri6ct by a rong shotbut we work very hard at it and I think rre do, on the arieiage, a goodjgl. To.ansvrer your question, and I guess I can speak to tiis notabout.this property, but just in geneial because wi do hau" over 46shopping centers, that office use is usuarry a result of a commerciardevelopment first. I cantt tell you that tiere arenrt afwaysexceptions to this, but r can show you quite a few of them w'here wehave put a center in to an area "p"-"if i-cally, pioneer village up inBlaine, and until $re put the shopping cent.i in there, theiJ was noactivity and no$, $re are getting ttre orrice, now they are getting somenice residentiar that goes arong with it. rt just i"pp"ni io be theexample, I not saying that is good or bad, but seems io foltow thatkind of a pattern. The office business, and r guess we buird thosetoo, seems to me that sometimes offices are built to be built withouthaving good justification. To answer the question also that youraised relative to the buffer, you have an idear buffer just -having
raw rand without a buiLding. so your transition retains itself so theonly thing that can be built there eventually would be an officer,rithout coming back and reguesting a change -of zoning for that area.I hope that answers that for you.
Emmings: You $rere one of the peopLe who shook their heads when r wastalking about the lights in the parking lot.
Doug Arndt Sr.: The lighting that is used today in shoppinocenter lots does not spray itserf out. rt is containea iigrriing, anaas a matter of fact, there is usuall-y a complaint that if doesn,tli9ht. up the neighbors back yard qui te as r.re1r as Ehey wourd rike tohave it righted' and that happens occasionarly. the ihopping centerlighting today is realIy contained Iighting and it doesn-,i spreaditself too far- you can set it and siop iL and start it jr.[-uu.rt
wherever you like- That $ras the onry reason r shook my hlad. rE canbe controlled.
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transition, open space is aproblem wi th that.good
Doug Arndt Sr.: In this particular case, I comment to thatbecause- the only alternative r.rourd be the c-2 office buitding and sovrhat if from a transition standpoint, it is awfully ni.a to-t,ur" unice big field between you and anything, regardless of what it is.
Conrad: What $re are looking at are residential neighbors thatback-up and have empty space.until ere get to the snop!ing center, andbased on elevation and what have you oi th" propertf,' iii nor "u..that open space would apply to thls transiti;;.'
Doug Arndt Sr.: I really canrt speak for them, but I rrould assumethat their landscaping prograrn would deal with that.
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Doug Arndt Jr.: Hor., it is going to work is that most of theuses that we are talking about going in are generally front endloading. type businesses that doi't h-ave a neLd tor trigtr volumedeliveries of a semi pulling up or a large truck pullinq up. Thedoors.wilr be adequate for them, and witri cne ampie puiiinf'*. t,ur.got, it wiIl be enough to accorunodate.
Emmings: My comment would be Ehat if, at the most I think,changing this one Lot, Lot 6, to C_2 for rhis particulai fro;ectdoesntt bother me mu.ch. I donit see any reason at all to rezone Lot 3and 4 at this time for a rot of reasons- that might u" "*p.-"-.""a. rthink one of the big probr.ems is !raffic and eve-n rh;u;i;-;;-says hedoesn'|t think it is, r think even to bring 64th street -into the projectmore so that 54th wir--l ng longer be going west wilr "or" o,rt raEer afterthey-have_a_lready made rhat c-orner u-na tfi.y ur.;i;";;y'i,Iiiin9 ouE onTH 4r wourd be better. That corner needs J roE of *oi[ unJ-unotn".thing, if that whore thi.ng were developed purting uii- ln.I-t.uffic outonto TH 4I, I donrt see how it works.
The other thing that boEhers me is rezoning Loton Lot 5 and seeing this project turn into a gasKing or whatever. I donrt $rant to see that. Iappropriate in that area.
6, giving them thc C-2station and Burgerdon't th i nk t.ha t i s
Erhart stated tha tthe real concern is
TH 7 try to take a
re.garding the problem with traffic, it appears that
_that pegple will go west on 54rh dtr;4, 90 rowardIeft. tihy can,t you turn tefr "" ii-ri-'
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Monk: I'mget, tha t
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Monk: that could be done but that also prohibits people who livein the area from doing the same thing.
Erhart: couldnrt you go through a service road?
not suggesting that might be something you couldn,tseems to be the real i ssue, that peopte wanting to go wes t l
Erhart: Regarding the plan, regarding how we got to thisplan, I donrt think any of us wiII say that the city has infinitewisdom in planning or that the developers do, so I -don't have aproblem if we take the time to say that here is a proposal that I ooksgreat and we ought to make some changes to respond to that. Theconcern I $rou1d have to that is, if we change this to C-2 at thispoint, $rhat guarantee is there that this building is going to bebuilt. what if tbe developer changes his mind and de;ide; to pur aBurger King in?
Dacy: Yes, thaplan application
any use in that
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applicant has filed a sitebuilding but once it is zoned thenon that lot. Ownership can change,
Erhart: I tihnk it was a great proposal. I tend to believe in themarket, and if you guys think you want to spend the money to put avery nice building that fits into the neighborhood and landscape itvery nice, then that te1ls me that probably somebody wants it there.But my concern r.rould be, and this probably is not related to just totraffic so much, if we rezone things to more aggressivecommercialization, are we losing the ability to allow these people toknow wha t they are realLy go ing to get. Is there any way to get
assurances to that ?
Conrad: Once you put the C-2 stamp on thatput in anything but we would have the rightother principals. StiJ"I they sure have theBurger Ki ng.
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Erhart: There is nothing wrong with Burger King,think i.f you are going to change it to C-2 you need
attraction bhat is nice and well landscaped.
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Other than thathere that these
I agree that, or emphasize in ourLots 2 and 5 should be C-I.
Conrad: Overall, except for the rezoning and the plan request, itsure is better than what we sav, before and r agree .,"itn t-tl-n"ighbors,it is a whore lot better. r had some coDcerns. r think the trafficconcerns can be resolved. I am real uncomfortable wiEh neiqnUortrooatransition. we tarked neighborhood transitior-;-;";; *.-.,ia that wasour c-r but that is h-r611E right now and that is *! t.aniition area tothe- ba-ck yards. we donrr kn6w when that is g"i;; *ll-i"".roped anddonrt know if it ever will and therefore, f ieel-t am loosing atransitionar area and in pranning that is rather important. rn thiscase r don't see that spaae as u6ing the right truniitio".-'tt utbothers rne and the reason it botheis me is that r donrt know if thereis enough space there. when something goes in to l.-"ia" 'irrl"rigt ttransitional area to back yards or ir,it trarre you-. r Jo.rii'1no* \^rhat ri'rant there but r don't.know what is goi.ng i.n,'rherefoil--i iln't r.ro,if that configuration is appropriate.- -if tn" road is-at trrJ rightlocation because r don'!t xnow wirat the iransitio.rar ,se-is--!oingthere- rf it is office-buirding, we just assume the office-buildingis a transition in itself and n6eds n6tni.,9 t. ."jui.i" -Jiii." r.o*neighbors- That worries me, that bothers me and that terls me that ram concerned about the C-2 use because Irm not s.rr" wnai frupp".r. i.,the C-l area. The other thing that bothers me is the drain'age, anO fvrould never, and Irm not sure what our city standa;;; ;;;;";.basically be able to contain the same runoff, but r vrould never alro$,the project to go forward unress we felt real good with the stormwater management that you are proposing, BiI1. pon,t-r"-lutlopportunities rike rhis to impiove situ-ations ratirer-trran Il maintain,maybe a poor one?
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Monk: Yes. It becomes extremely difficult when you are talking aboutoff-site and ground stream improv-ement" ttut bog four ui"". - vo,really canrt put a condition on this plan that go-in a iuiiy i*prorreadrainage svstem arr the way do$rn to tir. rat"-wtln l't"- ";; "'r.n a goodone. So what I am tooking _at proposing to. the council i. J';ointventure where we would do the down st.J.. imp.ou"*"nl= ,na-tnudeveloper wourd do th-e- up stream im-orovements and tie into tne system,and. through a joint ef fort you wout6 be abre to ao aiea wl-aJ
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to..work improvements that wouid benefit a lot of peopre ;iil-ii requiringassessments, and r guess r see this as a combi-n"a'erroiil-i,ia tt"."are real regal limits.to what we can requrre as far as off siteimprovements go. If. they are.nor fu11y ieneratingt the fiJUi"^ .r,athey are not. Right n-o w you have got-drarnage that comes down orioredown to rhis rocation from the properties ini;i;;;;;;"ni"voo r,ur"got basicalry this entire area thai drains out here and outlets atthis point. r berieve that some of the s.chooi ;;;;;i; J.')"'n''.o.""this way and the other_ goes to the pond in this direction. There is atremendous amount of flow across the site ana comei-..f""trra road att
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Gene Conner: For those of you vrho dontt drive it aI1 thevery dry weather, I donrt mean desert type, but even inweather, Lhere is usually water running do$rn G4th Streettime, not just after a rain. Its almost a creek.
this l0cation. That. is arr in addition to $rhat is being generated onthis site and generated by the State Highway. Now, f rori i-iegur
?!::lt:rl.l impossibre ro- require thar a deieroper mix."oir'"it.rmprovements when there is so much other benefiIing piop.i;y";; rguess I have come to grips with if we can't cooperrt! tii"-'poini,'tt.n ir think we can come up with. betrer d.;l;;s;-"-;;;;;.;;';.^. rid of::i:.f the ponds and so on, but if the couicil Uaufts al,itrermprovement project, we wourd have a very difficurt time-zJning thisPortion saying that this plan didnrt .."t or. standards beciuse tneyare patrolling the rate. Therefore, it is a ""rV "o*prillila i"=o"and r am hoping that the councir wiir consia", ,fi";;--;;i."J.i"-..r,t"because this area has been a problem for a tong time.
Erhart asked Monk what he had against ponds.
Monk: r don't have anything against ponds, the problem is based on ouryay oI thinking, closing four ponds, one i", f
-o, ui"u i. tt,i=location, one is a low irea in this location, ah;y-;;; ;;i;; what isalready low water terra.in and basically sinking. ' i;;.;"";;en you dothat next _to parking Lots and next to r-oaas, yju are-basi.aiLy forcingthe ground in this area to retain mo i s ture and water that it wourdnrtnormally retain and I guess creating these multipte ponds here ttratt{irl need to periodically be dredge-d and cleaned out before sediment wilrgo.in them, r am just not convinc6a tr,at this is ttr" t.=t-=vstem and rthink a combined system with several ponds and then a more containedpipe system is the way to go.
Erhart: what is the problem with having the ground retain the moisture?
Monk: Again, you keep moisture under the ground and then as thefreeze/thaw happens every year, eventuarly wirr take its torr.Creating ponds next to roadways where they wouLd not naturally be, Idon't see as terribly beneficlal to everybody involved
Erhart: I don't want to turn Ehis into a pond issue, but if you tryto reduce the rate of runnoff, if you were to put a pipe i.r, you ur"going to get arr the runoff at once, where theJe po.,a'"'riir'aeray trrerunoff until such time as that over f lor^rs and ruis off.
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Erhart: Anyway, I.think the issue here is the rezoning and1t someooe could give me a comment again on what commi-tmentsmade to actual-ly going through with if it is rezoned.
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Doug Arndt Jr.: What_ we are doing is, Iike I said, we have roughly50t of it prereased for potentiar tenants like Bob outrined to go intothe project. obviously r am go.ing to have a har,l time coming back inhere terling we are going to build- something aif rereni. - -w"'-.r" .,otgoing to do that. we ar! going ro rhe site -ptan ,.;i;; ,iti, tr,i"project because this is what we want to uuiia, this is what will workon the site for us. .We are fulJ.y intending to enter into developmentof this agreement which wilr- conlractuarry uina us to itris-.ity toperform exactly as we said we are going to perform.
Erhart: When would you start construction?
Doug Arndt Jr-: we r^rourd like to start construction in July and havethe center open in November, possibly earl,ier.
Conrad: Any other comments that lre didn.t make. I guess as thebottom rine, I stirr am nervous about it and I find t-hat distressingbecause I do like what I see there on the plan, I think thaE isappropriate. r arn nervous about the surroinding ..".=. -i-tuu"
utough time not knowing about that transition ur6", .r"t rezoning to c-! gives more deveropment potential which r don't itinr i" ilpropriatefor that parcel.
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Erhart: I think my reaction tothe recommendation to l andscapethe viewing problems particularbuilding is buiIt.
with the Landscaping, we alsothe C-1 border transition area
Iandscape archi t.ect eng i neer
Conrad: Sure, if you can talk about C_I area.
Doug Arndt Jr.: We are certainly wiLling to address that.
steve sullivan: r am the J-andscape architect that has been invorvedrdith the project that ere've aone iith the design here. wtat ".n u"done to replicate this section across the side lines are, what peopleare going to be viewing from the back of their homes, uasea--on ttroseside lines, we could determine where strategicaLIy ti pfu.. pluntmaterials, within the. c-r parcel and try to -mitigit" aiy-sight rinesthat wourd be in the best interest of ihose residents. Thrt is what$re are planning to build and that will become part of .the site planapproval.
that is tha t ought to be included inthe west side of that in response tobecause it lrilt be years before any
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The Planning Commission recommends that the City Councilapprove Subdivision Request #85-7 as depicted on theplan stamped "Received ApriI 23, 1986,, with thefollowing conditions:
a. Developer execute a development contract for ownerinstallation of utility lines with City approval offinal des ign.
Street improvements to West 64th Street between TH41 and the site entrance be required as a part ofthe development contract with City approva] of thefinal design.
Approval by and compliance with MnDot conditionsfor the highway access and drainage system permits.
Approval of the final drainage plan
Watershed District.by the city andd
e That landscaping include provisi.ons toarea between the residents to the west
meet staffrs approval.
mask off thethat would
Dacy: Just a note, as site plans would be processed for thoseindividual lots that screening Iandscaping, etc. would be required atthat t ime as wel I. So your intent is to make it part of the plat
approval so that future site plan reviews shall contain adequate
screening betr,reen the residential area and lots 2 and 5.
Emm ing: I $/ant to know vrhy vre vrant to rezone Lots 3 and 4 at thi s
t ime? I am not going to be able to vote for your Motion if itincludes Lots 3 and 4, I donrt see any reason to do that at this time.Othervrise I am basically in agreement. Would you be willing to amendyour Mot ion to exclude the rezon i ng of Lots 3 aod 4? I would j ust to
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Erhart made the following Motion and Sei9e1 seconded:
1. That the Planning Commissionion recommend that the CityCouncil approve rezoning request f85-2 for the rezoningof Lots 3, 4 and 6, Block 1 proposed on the preliminaryplat stamped rrReceived April 23, l9g5', to C-2 CommercialDistrict.
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Dacy: Eor the rezoning of those tero lots? yes.
if we rezone those and they want to put in anyth i ngy donrt come back here.
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see that taken one step at a time. r donrt have any probrem buildingc-1here' r have problems buitding c-2 and maybe if fe can hord on toc-I as rong as we can, r feer that can give ui an erement of contror.
If thgy. are C-2 they can be as fast food or whatever they vrant to putin, without going through us?
Emmings: No,
under C- 2, the
Dacy: If they are a conditional use,conditional, use and that does requireyou wiIl see them again.
and an auto servlcea publ ic hearing so
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But any pe!m i tted use under C-2 they don't have to c ome
Dacy: For a site plan review but the use is not the issue.
Emming: Because this is a sensitive area and because of theneighborhood concern, I think we ought to keep a greater efement ofcontror on the lots. r would like to see Lots 3 and 4 be withdrawnfrom the Motion to rezone. ..
to me that Lots 3 and 4 are more conducive to C_2 tha n
.I h_avg less of a problem there possibly than with thebordering R-I than with Lot 6 bordering- the highway4.
Seigel: Seemspossible Lot 6.lot designationthan Lots 3 and
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Conrad: Do you $rant to make a Motion Steve?
Emmings: yes, r vrould move that the planning commission recommend tothe city councir- to approve fo-r rezoning fox Lot G, sro"k i-proposed onthe prel.iminary plat stamped ',Received april 23, f'ge6;-to C_Zcommerciar and that we recommend the subdivision request *ith th"
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conditions as stated. by Staff plus the (e) that was previously addedto get the screening onto the C-t area so that we have the C_2 weIIscreened from the neighbors on the west:
(e) That screening and landscaping be installed along Lots 2and 5 to adequately screen the C-2 area.
Erhart seconded the Mot ion.
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Thompson
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Motion Passes.
Conrad: Michael, your reasons for opposing the Motion.
Thompson: I feel that a year ago when we looked at this andrezoned it, and at that time we rezoned it to a proper use which wasC-1. f donrt feel it should be changed or intensified at this point.
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Preliminary Plat request to subdivide 1.93 acres into twocommercial lots of 1.35 and.58 acres on property zoned C_2,Commercial and located at the northeast cornLr o1 Hwy l0I andLake Drive East.
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p€rt of the ner zoninq ordinan". "t ir,"t-itll, an. property ,""-.r."."o to R_l 3inglcf8,rily. tn 198r, an.":-::" a lend use plan aoendment !equrst by Hr. Reotioon. Thisa!quest ras denied in lggl'- rhc subjec[ ".0""., hss b!en u"ro". ,i. etannirrg cOo-!ission and the citv councir for a sietch oi"n ..rr", and txicr ueiore tne plsnningCoorission for these iteos on Or"r, ZO,-irii-"rrO- ff"y 22, 1955. The proposat ras ofconceln to the pLanning CoorigEion anO'to tfre rpercel. rh. co',!ission rrlt thqt il,e tr"riic l:::::":::": ::;:l:1.;::,.:; ;l:r".4design of the subdivi.si.on. t rould like to r""ie, ttr" trsffi,c options that hav" berndi,ecusscd in !!qa!ds to this paoposal . ,i..-ir"", presented during sketch plsnrrvic'' the applicants proposed a "rn intersection fron Highray 7 closing 0riolcLsne' nTn-ing into a ne,. frontsge "".0 ii"r-rr"rd connect the ncr street through the:e:i::"i;:..1;:":n;":"",.""ecrioo of oriore rane- rt rss b!ousht out durine rhis
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from t{nDot, they are suggesting "na ,. ".. "".o',oade on Hish',ay 7 as sell as rierrt,"""-,","...11:".;lr,::.:"1;.i;l,tll::,:;:l:; r"
Echieved t',o objectives: l) to scparate ii" -rorr."r""l
and aesidenti"t t""rri",i::::1";:;:,;';;:;::;i:":;"::."";;::",::.;:;l:" direc,ion "^,ini,",', or 4, shoq,d4r. 2) To rnaintain, aJ muctr as possibre, rn" ",rliiii",:::;r:r;:::1"1."";"";:1"":,"ptoposed connection froo the existing O"iofu_f-]ru out onto ff igh,{av i_"no ","o keeping:::.::'i,':;:':.;:;:;;":i.l;",^liilij,i:li;;,Il: has been ,""0"."0',r to conrin. t,ethat a 6oo root oi"ilr". to snother na.lor i, ., t e r s I
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ta.i,ned and also that ritr, st""rt rould have,o Jtttton on 4l rould have to be Dai,o-rould be open and ttere roula be oo access onto i.c-losed- In thrs option 0ri,ole Lenerhe d.ar bact< to tii"-o"",i'"rrar option is that
High'.av 7, eccess contained FroE 41.ro.", "notr,." """".r-ri,.a into and out of the ni: -o:o" closc 64th Street ana therc-
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Highr€y ) and create a iul-ae-sac f!oD 64th st""^lnu .1-to1t"nt roaa ano access ontotains sorae .o.""".ir1 trarric, there is still th::--!hrlc thisr to sone degree, con-cial trafFtc leaving the proposed oaea Eod r""r.l 'o""tole traffic aattprn of comner-to oriote L.n"-to ,i".."0 .rest bound on Hiehvay ;:
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1^tnl"", 41, but ctosing off the froitage """;-;;;
rrrc Eccess onto 64th strect ontoit has to;";;.-;;-;;; o,nu", r" can,t have,ro"n" 0tiole L€ne ecccss. HnDor s.ysisolate tt. n.iqtrio"iooa ana-,still provide .or" ":::"":ts
onto High'Ev 7. Thi3 iouldtort of trsffic froo 64th Strcet into
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llayor Haoilton: l{hat rould the differenceHighray 41, 60O feet faoo the intersection?have to be closed? Ie thet really close?
Earb Dacv:
ao cloge to
MnDot' s rcconEendation
another one.
put i,n a cul-de-sac off of
is 64th Street? t{hy rould that
is that you can't have another full interseetlon
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thts neighborhoodr but it rrll not provide direct access froo Highray T rest boundbecause the frontaqe road xould be eliminated. Ihe 3taff i" a""or""nding that if th!land use and the rezonins .equest are app.oved ano lre co,,ii, i';;.;';;;;l"e! the prc_lil!inary pl,at, that option nuDber tro be selected a9 it creates a safer access point -onto Highray 7, but still s.parates lhe conmericel traffic by providing easy accesgfroo Highray 7 and onto ilighray 41.
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l{ayor Haoilton: Ho, clqse is it?
closc 64th Street
Earb Dacy ! Yes -
Counci Ii6ns6 5'1.6
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together?
son t lihat is the
of that?
up 64th Street there
neighboshood.
Earb Dacv: I
Counci lroDan
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Counci I n|an
roul d say
Swenson:is open, rhat iould th! pl.n be? Hould it bc to
probleo iith co,!ing in on 64th Street and going up
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and closing it off rest
Earb Dacy: Coming
travel through the
vould sti I I be comnercial traffic that could
tDaffic coning fEoln the regt and usi,ng 0riole Lane and comlngthe shopping center and that, to oe, rould intensi fy it.
Councili oman Slrenson: I think that ras the problen becasse I
Counci lman Cevi.no: Ho'| about
diflerence or imp!ovinq a nelr
than mEking tha t bend there to
open , but still ha ve an access
an option like a coDbioation of ) and 4 excluding theroad snd tlaking it cooe out directly onto 4I ratherthe south. That rould Eccomplish keeping 64th Stseetto it.
in the re .
Hayo. Hamilton: So it iould
Couocila an Gevinq: You r,ould
Counci I nonr an SYenson:
64th Street.
the re so you r,ould ha v.
to go xcst on
strsighten thot
could see, on 4,
around and corning into
to stop.
64th Strert?
line out right
Are you
Gevinq:
saying keep 64th Street open o! elininate d4th?
Eli0inate 64th Street, but create a n!i sccess ii th this ner, ooe
run right into
put I "In in
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Gevinq: Yes. I r,outd
you could continue on
Coun ci I lnan Horn:Are you
l{ouId you be able to cont inue
Propose you |iould
ioto 64th S tree t .
keeping 0rio I e L ane
I haven't di scues.d
open ?
that yct, I .r juet looking et 41.
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Earb Dacv You are
Gevinql
Are you
Counctlman
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can
can
have
have
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Couneilnan Horn. t f you do thisall that traffic cooing in.
Councilnan Gevinq: fhat istraffic? 0bviousl.y, lf youthat ,e rould have--to close
Seven to the ea9t.
still co,ring io on 64th and moving up?
Yes.
going to do t,i th theit iou ld dictat. to us
access off of Highray
keepinq 0riole Lane open ?
haven.t discussed that yet, thatei the t ha ve a ne|| accegs onto 4lonto 4l and close 64th Street.
is tHo separate issues.
and close 0rioIe Lane or
You
you
and don't alose 0riol.e Lane you are going to have ,.L
rrhat the nert i 99ue is, tiha t are iedo ihat I have just proposed here,0riole Lane and crea te an approved
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Iending approval of th! land use plan aoendDcnt because co,!Dercial uses ahould belocated at llajot intetsections and thc opportuni,ty should be there that the cooorr-ciel traffic can be separated. The propos!d rr.oning pattern is C-l snd C-2, thc C-lto b! rocEted in the aouthf,estern portion of the site adjacent to the single fa.ily.PerDi,tted in-the G-l -district are admj.nistsative and etecutive officeg: professionaloffices, nedi.cal End dental ' regal -professioner offices and financial institutions.Thege are peroitted useg by right. Condi,tional uses are .esidential uses, hospitals,no!tuaries,. research labs. The C_2 district is a little llore inteose and rill, bclocated in the noatheesteEn portion of the site. permitted u!re9 a!e: offices,generel reteil sale9, financia.l institutions, restaurants, dry cleaning, Eortuaricsand qoveannent buildings. As conditional uses: auto servi,ce stations, hotels,ttotels, parking ramps, private clubs and passenger facilitieg for ,nass transit. Thezoning plan that rras developed ras based on that the c-l district is the reast inten_sive of the comnercial districts. Any use, pe.mitted or condi,tionel use, does haveto go throuqh an indi,vidual site plan process before the planning Connr,ssion and thecity couneir. The city vourd have cont!or a3 to rhere these buildings are praced inrelation to the lot rines' set backs, sdditional landscaping, additional recon,oen_dati,ons ag far ag liqhti.ng, screening, architectuaal features, ingress and egr.ess orJtof the site. The concern lras raised by the planni,ng ComDission regarding the buf_fcring of these uses aqainst the existiog nei.ghborhood. Thig ras one of the i,teosthst xas tabred froo the Apsil 24th oeeting. The ap^pricants caoe back ,,rth a buf_fesing plen l.hich proposed 60 six foot Colorado Spruce planted along the lrestern lotline and additional randscaping treat,!ent at the- entrance rroo ttigtJay i. certsinry,a3 a paEt of your !evie'' if you deeD th6t additionar berEing o" .aaiii.on", ecreeningIs nec4s.6iy-you con certainry make ttrosc .ecorr.ndations as psrt of the prat appro-val. Another concesn reised at the planning ConDrssion ias the concept of orcteaLioq coonetcialisa. It is a concept trrJt ut"ff is conce.oed l.ith aIso. To theiest oF the site is a non_conforninq use, knor., "" ur. g"rii"'i.r;;;;n-;n.a has norchsnged hands to a trevel agency. ifr"t i" "-non-.onfo.ring us. and thst site i9linited to office uses only. It is stift zonei g_I and vre iould not aecooDcnd th6tthis be desi,qnated os coooercial noi or in tne future. Sil!ilasIy, rr nould Dotrecooaend that any of the area on the gouth side of Highray 7 be designsted a9 cga-Dcrciar' *ost of the eristing pattesns have been developei ". "inqt"-i".rl, dcvelop-Ernts. Anothea conc.rn ras the propesty to thc south, r.hich i! the property acso!stn"
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should be oarntarned because Lhe land use plan a,oeodrrent process affords the ci.ty anextra revieH process, not only by the City, but by the Hetropolitan Councll as rell.Ihe site across the street, staff believes it does not have the sane traffic or totalgraphical opportunitieg as the subject propeEty does, so the.efore, th.t is oua basisof our recommendati.o.l to leave it as lo,. density. At the planning co,nraissi,onneeti,nq, there iere t,io notions. The first motion xas to deny the Iand use plananendenent; that ras tj.ed, - f. A llotion r,as Dade to approve the Iand use plana'!endmentr thEt failed 4-2- g.sically the planning co,nmission said that they courdnot deny i't as proposed nor could they approve it as proposed. you nere given theminutes in veEbatun of the neeting. Again, the forma! of this proposal is stauc.turedin the three iteos. The land usc plan a.oend,Deot is first. you *irr be deciding.,if--collEercial uses are aPprop!iate at th€t corner. If you deny the aEendtlent to corioer-cj,al all together, the other tro requests are nute. HoxeveE, if do decide that con_lercial i9 apP!oprister then you can proceed onto the rezoning and then to the platif you so desire.
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Todd Thonpson: r rould rike to 9o over sore of the different ideas that rc ectuallyhad aod ihere re ste!ted. Iihen I fi.rst decided to take the options on this property _to try and develop it, I had ori,ginelly been looking just at the corner on ,tighray 7and Highnay 4l and I rent and talked r,ith 8ob Reutioan and he didn't have any probleo
'rith that because h. has been sitting on this and he iould like to sell it. I cameinto the City and toLd then r.het I '.as planoing to do and it nas a diflerent persooinvolved at thst tiEe on the ptsnning staff, end he said that he thought that ras aqood coaner for },hat I y.a9 proposing. I had proposed to build a Diary gueen Braiserhere. As I got involved in the actual planning stages, it becane obvious to oe that _this rras spot zoninq and I ras goi.ng to have a lot of problems rith that. Not onlyna9 I going to have to run the roods and the utilities from one of these corners acIossproperties, but there t,es a big question in my Dind as to rhat aoother individuallIiqht do 'rith the surrounding pEoperty. So r entered into an sgaeenent ,itt ii" tro -property orners to actually work trith the enti.re parcel. The tast issue before youin I98l |ras 4 acres in a itT'rshape, there was a ootel proposed, whi.ch I also thoughtlras spot zoninq. After I really qot to that point in time, I started Looki.ng at the_-different accesses and started Irorking with the City and highvray departrDent, and ouainitial thrust ras to coDe in off 0riole, because it is an eristi.ng access point. liethouqht re could route the traffic in here, bring it through this Iot i.n sone sort of-frontaqe systen and actuall.y se.vice the property that ay. After really taking alook at that, it became obvious that 0rioIe Lane, not only },as not safe, but it raggoing to be extreoely disrupti.ng to the entire neiqhborhood to funnel all oF the carsin here. At that point in tifie, I ras actually circulating around i,n the oeighborhoodtalking to some of the people and decrded to iove the access farther east. Iihat thatDeant, as Sarb Dacy pointed out, i9 that re rere going to bring a nI,, in, renove thehouse, and tsy to funnel the residential into the residential 6nd the coDEercial into -the connercial. Again, re '.orked '.ith the hi.gh,,sy a"p""tr"ni ;;-,;;; iio,r,n ,n.planninq staff aod lri,th our orn engineers. That lras bette! than Oriole Lane. Itfunneled the cars over here so thot the people didnrt have aIl the people drivinothrough the neighborhood. The probleo became then, that the honeoynerg ;"-;;.'.:""felt that the i.nteqrtty of thei. neiqhborhood rrould be threatened by moving thishouse. I think they are. right. I think leaving this house trere, al th.i,s pornt, inthe oeighborhood keeps the inteqrity of tfre n.i.egtrborhood intoct and does separatethis f so,r the residential. lle got pernission froo the State Hj.qhrsy Department sndthey r.ent alonq I ith it and it caeated sn entrance over here. In ordet to gervicethe neighborhood xi,th the access this far east, lre had to go oround the house sooe_hoi, if ,e iere to leeve the house there, and re did get highray pe.oirsion to runthe fsontaqe road thie cloee to the highxsy. I still don,t think that this frontsg.road is the best 6lternative. tn taking into congideEation one of the other conccrns
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of the neighbo"tooa, strip zoninq, I think havrng this f.ontage road d:::;':;'i::::,::i i:;'to strip'"""; ;;'"oi.,."n,on,.n," 0,."i"";;";^:';::;:":|:
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land use of the property, I had a
and set a reel ror !earrv rher *,i" "o"n"" iJ ;ii :;:.::"'?i"::"r:"::r:i":";::.:;1,land to the north' ec!oss the h'i9rrrEy, you'ver90t a conditionaL use pealtlt.t at Barticto the rest' the old r{est. Junior riqn'i.i".r,
"" r"" as r knor, is 90 - 100 percentfull of busi.oesses et this point ii ,rr".--i ion,t tave Eny.doubt- in ny rind thatthis is a -o.ajor intersection ' -,"I .aLso.oo" ], -nu; aDy doubt -that rre can. provide access --to this intersection to Lhe propert, na"" ""0-".parate it fson the residential neigh_borhood' r think if you rearry rook at the areal photo, you .."'inu-!i"ru, pit. here,you see an aHful Lot of open land h91s,trhich the ouoers ,,ould like to have rezonedat sooe poj.nt in tine fo tultiple, I see land over here ihere the oirners rould liketo have rezoned for coonercial ana muftipfe, I see a.tl cooDercial up here and I also9ee the neiqhborhood here, and I realize tfr"t tt."" is a lot of big concerns j,nvolvingpeople,s ho,nes. lle do plan to buffer the p"op""ty, I think that is a given. t{ecan.t develop rithout buffe!s. How iruch Urri."i"9 and design Hrll it really take?l{e have some plans that shon it. There has been talk that people Hould like a higherberD dorn in the southern part. I donrt have a p.obleo Hith putting a higher berm inthere, that is not a difficutt thing. ,n.-i""ir", that I have right now, ue havebeen before the Planning^conmission-rn"".-,ir"", re 're.e delayed once, thi.s is oursecond ti'!e back to the councir and xe haven', "r.n been abre to get ofr go. recanrt plan unless soEeone is rilling to liork rith us. It gets a Iittleto alraye have people say, nthis is sinqre faoily residential .n ,,," ""llniiJ"ir",think once ne get beyond that point, re have to nake a decision 1r-rst exactly trhere weare qoin9. That is rhat. I am askio! ror toniqit. Let,s make- a decision as to "herexe ate 9oin9. Ne are asking for a land use ariendr"nt change and:, o."li think that .i)-is unaeasonable. Lould like.to get from you, "or" sort of ditectioo. I rould alsolike JiD christians0n to tElk a li.ttle uit "uout the difection ,.r,"."-ru rourd rike to90 and hor rre rould Like t.o proceed.Hith-our zoning aoend!lents sod gtherLe have. grner j.SSueS that
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in the deverop,n.nt oract of it. fhe conprehensrvc plao,t
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as Earb Dacy rnentioned, in Chanhassen theae rere a number of areas that deren,tdesignated, you cou.[dn't decide at the tine the cooprehensive plan vrent into placeand exactly ho', they should be used. They ."ere designated R-I,,'ol because they res_prinaril.y residential areas best for single fanily, but because R_l gave the City thltost contaol over holr that area t,,ould be developed when j.t caoe tifie to develop it.Thisr r think, is one of those areas. To not have done i,t that {6y v.ourd have leftopen too many options and it iould have been a hard area to control and it night hav_9one on being a qravel pit, rhich is certainly not sonethinq anybody raoted in thatquaater or r,ould rant nor. Taking the comprehensi.ve plan, you go througtr and yo{gpend a number of years and as the area grois and a9 other things develop around;finally s developer cooes i,n and says.,l think econonically, th8t I can ligure ou.t af,ay to do this' This is '.,hat I xant to do, but the fi,8st step is that r have to havethe conprehensive plan aEended to alloti a coDme.cial use, not a specifi.c conrnercialuse, but qott|mercial uses in general.( 0nce again, that doesn,t Eean any connercial .-That neans it can be conmercial snd then it is decided hot{ it is zoned and rhat 9pe_cific uses can be used on the site. 5o the second step in the process j.s you go tothe zooinq. you look at your zoning code, and these is a n!mbea of coEnercial zoninr_categories. The tro that re are looking at ere C_l and C_2. I think ;;.-;;;;r';;;;'needs to be corrected, which you sre probably already alrare of, is t think that theC-2 j,s not qeneral conltlercial, I think there is a C_] that is the oore generaL coo_ _Eercial, C-2 is one tha! talks sbout a compact commercial area t{he!e the primEayobjective ia probebry to serve the a.ea right around it. t thiok that probabry oughtto be Iooked at sooerhat as an amenity, noi "" sonething that is going to tear thearea dorn. Sone people probably say that this guy doesnrt live out trere, so xhy is _he talkinq about it. I live on Como Avenue up fro.,t the fair qrounds. Ihe fairgrounds are not he best thing to have in your oeighborhood, but the loca.L servicestation, the local hardtiare sto!e and those things that are nearby are good neigh_bors, I think that is some!hing that shoutdn,t be overlooked, in that colI|nerciolneighbors can be qood neighbo.s. Residentj.al neiqhbors can be 5ust as bad a neigh_bo!, iF you don't take care of yoirr yard, if you don,t take care of you" tor.., iouare a bad neiqhbor. The same ray lrith a busi,ness, if yoU don,t take care of yourbusiness you are a bad nei.ghbor, but there ean be good commercial neiqhbors, and weshouldn't forget that. llhen you go to that, you should remeobeE aft ite l.ay aloog i9that there are protections. The zoning coae hos sevcEal steps that you have to qothrough, eveo after it is zoned, that doesn,t mean you can go in there and build rha_tever you xant. In the zoning code you require a site plan reviex, you have cLearlandscapj.ng requirements, you have the berming protecti.ons, there are setbackrequirenents, and you have parking requirerenis. There are a nunber of til.gs t|r.tgive protection to make sure that connercial use th6t does go in the!e is a good con_ne!cial. use. I jugt iant to nake sure that rrherdonir say there is no,,Ey to do it because ".r:";::":i:r':::'l: ltrjirl;.lt"i ::1,. _believe you rill do that. I think the basic itritrre healtr, the welrare, and rhe senerar n".o tj"lnl"l:;:,:li;.t"r:n;j I:,'uj:"1,.j,.,the general good to the prope.ty owner, ru vould say that he "n"ria i. "Ut" Ao rl"_teyes he raots unless it is a dunb thing. If ne looked "t jr.t-a;; no.i or rn"su8rounding neiqhbors and say that they should do rrhoteve! in", ,"",."1i be able tocontrol theif neiqhbor, that is fine lrhen they 3re controlling their neighbor, butthey probably don.t xant the sane thing goioq to the other ray, so there i,s a balance _there. A part of that balance is ho', does if affect trre rrroie'";;.;;;;;, Here thereis ioproved saftey alonq the highr€y, 6ccording to MNDot, on ttre ""a.""1" io €nd oqt,the plan allovs for even nore inprove,nents "" ,ol. qo along snd looking at the inpr6_ _venents to the traffic, the other thing is that it provides services ioi " f""9."atea thsn just these iD,rediate n.ighbors. I think thet it is one that can bebelanced as betneen the ttro kinds of uses.
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t"'ott"^t intersectioo' ,.e:ee that there are reny oany ugesr*n and ror [t"..;;;:;":;;.:::: ::""::';l:1"''... eooa t."rii" "i-.cur"tron p"t-sppropriste. There ras " """ui",
'.-:r:::,.:"t: a coo.oercial use of this property iasc,ose and ,, n.,.-io.ii"l.l"lij"l; illiiil,l;,1!:;l;; ::;"*::l1i:.:i"l;ii;iiiI:l;"
l;i::":::,:.']| il:,'::::l:.- r" r'"," "n""".'il-r""lo:e 8 c-2 service type usc on tha,nro th! "it" .ni "*li lij"'iil"ii;"lll'li"ll.,il":,:.::,;;,::::;:j;:jij=.li,,,i.dji:proposing sone sort of s.,ourti-fernrry iesiueoiiar usc and 3 q6ntug16ial u3e. I thinkthere is every opportunity t1. u"," 0.,i""-"";;;;"" iith. a high guality cortrrrcisloffice area rather then a oulti-fso.ily a!rs. --Bottr coulo be done good or bad. r likcthe fact that a C_l office in ttris ercs ioocdiately sbutting these people, ,ouIdrescrble r quieter neiqhbor for thc ,".f"nJr-"iO thc .veDings. I thtnk that thelandscapinq of either the !esidential qee of thi.s property o! co'rercial ,.ould brosdc p!ctt!. I think oo the y.ekena"
"na in ii"c-r usc 'dira u. ri" oJi,"" arrernative. ," n",.']"lili].tllt;jti"o;:::':;: ;rrll:l "
a le93er cororercial usa rould be a better n"iliuo". t. have oeny options For strectsand ye-r!ave -only been rooking- for-thc u."t oni'." th! stEff and HnDot.hss. r thinki?. cao lrork to that i,f you think rhet l.c are doi,ng is sppropriete. tae can flnd thebest access .Ite!native if the use of tl. prof..ty that le proposed is dc.o.dappropriste.
Hayor HaDi t ton:
le ha ve !eceived
that rould rant
al. ready told us
I
a
to
in
knor there sre a lot of the Eesidents here fron the.r.a andgreat deal of input from all of you, so if there ls a spokesDelson Ispeak on behalf of the group to tell us sonethinq ,^;,-;;;-;;;";;; Iall of the letters and petitions, feel free ro "ru"U.- |
Pete rh'odahr : I live at 6r45 Minnerashta *oods D.ive. I don,t kno., if I am thespokesoan for the entire neighboEhood, but a couple people have asked ne Lo speak. Irould like to start off by saying thst r 8n rearly sorry that Mr. rhornpson is gettiogaggravated ',ith this p!ocess, That aggrevates ,ne ihen you say that. you are dealinglrith naighborhoods that have been hese fo! years, people that ere here, this is thereho,!e3tesd, thj,9 ie rrhere they live, the dcvelopeE cooes, the developer goes, he deve_l'ops hi3 property and moveg on. If ,,e cao.t take e little tine to do this right andif yo! are aggraveted by that process, I think ic have e probleE gtarting off. Ithink.everybody ,ould agree, if !r.9re going to do 6nything r.ith this co!ncr, i! rEntit to fit and be right for everybody. I ttrinf the traffic i3 the oajor issue. fknor in the pranoinq coeoission the thought rss hoi to sor.ve trre traific probren asport of thc plan rsther than having that coo? on after- lhe fact that if i" ...on.dand il you do rhatever end theo sll of s auddeo i! 9et i,nto the traffi.c problrD. Thefeeling thet I have, is there s rav to,9et the tsafftc as a part oi'ii] o"oro"cd planso re knoi '.het re ere dealing rith? I just feel thst r,c n"r. i.-n.i"ihe trafficqucation sesolved. rfl terms of the traffic question, and ttris t, ir'r"."o.", ori_nion, is thot option thfee p!ovides the ost opportunity for lsoretin! ,n., "o"n""ftoo the residential aaee. Opti,on three is thepsoblen fro rhe nriehbo.hood stsndpoint ," ,r" :;:;:;;":; il:r"lr:i3l"ll..l;",riinot particularly palpeble for the prople in therost losicar ,", io,.p"""te these tro thinss ".:"it:l:;l':l;, I::;;r,l;:;:r;l:borhood is ceally tsyinq to do. tle arc all sGconciled to the fsct ii",-"or.anrnq ,"goiog to happ.o in there. I donrt think soybody is arqqing tf,.t it_"iouro b! slngl!f a,!ily detached unit9. That is the oai,n "on".an. t think the other conc!!n, aad onc t
Counc r I Hee t iog,r..t \ ,, 1rs5 {6 -?-
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expressed, agarn by the plannrng Commission, is the fact the area be a C_L desrgna_ _tion for the entise area, Hhich I thi.nk is really rhat they xere after. I ron,tspeak for theo, but I think that cones out in the oinutes. I f the nergnborhood iouldhave to conprooise, t lhi.nk the C_l vrould provrde the contiol "nd pror.a" the typr otuses that re feel that rre could liverlith, rrith the proper be.nlog" "nO ""."onr.ng"and everythinq else. fhe iInmedrate neighbors do have a probleo looking rnto thatsite. I think that has been addressed in serer.l different eays, but it ha9 to beaddressed oore in terms of the final plEn spproval. In te.ms of the overall develop_|!.nt 6nd the co|r|nercial uses for that corner, I thi,nk that it is great thst the developer ie trying to provide comoeccial serrices, but I have never i"".J tn. n.iqt -borhood going out snd saying, nLetrg find a developer so tre can get cor"ercial .:_.setvices i.nto this neighbo.hood. I think the developer is doing ,rhat the developcr'rants to do, r,hich is to develop property snd ,!eke his money, ".0 i-i""" no problecrith that ',hatsoever, but I think that has to be co,opatible rith that neighborhood.There are enough questions on the east side of Highray 4l as to ,n"i-ri", propertyghould be used for. I reaIIy donrt see the north corne! as conDercial. The residential. cot es right in snd there is no other "rp"rr.,on that you are going !o have. A9for the Juni.or High, foE exaople, the school district rourd h"r" ""io-ai.a building _lqng titre ago if thev rete really going to get out of it and I think there is a lotof question as to trhat the eyentual use rrri ue. 50 froo the neighborhood atand-point, '.hat ie are asking.fll is lf it is 9oin9 to go co,,nerci,al, that it be no oorathao I c-1 desiqnation and that a tractive fatiern i,s established before you get to -far into this thing so that you knor rhat you are Oealing rith.
Hud Hollenback: I have been trying to stay fsirly active as far as Highray 7 is con_-c.rned because ,e have had probtens there betreen ,rnn"., ;i ";; ;;.;;;"shte paEkrreyfoE a nuober of vears' r. xas fortunat" ".;;;; to be i.nvited to a puotic sefetyCon,Dission neeting to talk about Highray 7.;; " highray patrolosn sttended uhopatrolr'ed that section FoE a ,o0nth o" "i "no I o.rr"r" he said that section betreenHighray 4l and the fire station }ias ro!se tnan figlray 5. He.s not sayrng Highray 7,!ii,ii;::.:::;'r:t;:"lt'ot.Hiehnav 5' Hish,,av 5 is verv,.rv b.a, iu. rnr" 0.,-
Hi.sh,,ay 7, past .,""i"ili :::":.';:;;,j;-;r,:i :; i;;'";;":ii,:; :"*:.:;;;":."".
"
signal li9ht, a Left hand.-_turo "i9n"f,-" "inii ar", into Shorerood, iocidently, ire;:::.:"::":.i;:::":ii;,Hishr,ay or. 'rr"n;;;
"". abour to enr". the "nu.",n""" ro,-s;;;;;";;-;.;"";;;;;;';.:';,ii^:":"1,::.:";:";'nn: vou rilr ".. ,uo,i"-"o'ins in rsoo
;::"::",t::,:;"^lj::;:"ji:ji ;.i":ii:i::::::,;it':t,"i;t:'.r:i:':.::":::":.:i:n,n.iJ_
teft hand turn even "rii._ii"ni ;;;,,:;":;:::.:ze.,orkine orlrhatever, rat takins a _
ji:;;iili ::i;:,i:""1i:, "'i!l; i::"":;:i::"":";li": i::;';l;i"ili;.;;:';::';;i'-
at 55 rnph and arl o, ",""u
else in the country h:ve.you n"".',i"""gn-ai rntcrsection -rhat this i"",i n,.i.i.;::";;,1"1"::: i;":;;: .,i;i,;" :.jtj;;,;;,t;i":;.*:i*:;,"hot1 re are goinq to qet people trret bound oai oa. rrnn"", , ,",",ri"i]r"" ,a ,r. gne _;"'i';.":l:"::; lj ;:":;";"i;i: Il,..iJi"jj:;ll:,:'r,, p".or"-o""o,i"n',"'",, the hieh-gssoline, etc. People like that iho ore unfamit::: "::. fami lisr xith the area fo.create all kinds of problems, traffic-rise. ,a
t"" t'ith the haztards ere going tobe faniliar rith ;he';;;zards. 0ne other qui"t 1t is c-I, those peoplc """ going-to'-
:::::;i'j;.:.:,:::J:.:::;;"lljlil,i]li:;;ji":, :i"3i;"tijji"ljr:,:: ";: ;:;: ^.ousht ro be discussed openlv iith shore,oodr ""-iili",lirr;.;: ::"":;lr:i.";:::il: , -doD,t think too aany of us reslly Erc in r.roa of s strip of coDlllcrcial bctre"nHighrray 4l and Hinneveshta parkrey. Ihat i"-,"r"oan." coocern.
rould yoq
You didn't
Couneilo 6n
e ooaDal uo
ha corneg ho
dj.rectly in
Counci I n an Gevino:
to xo ck
understsnd the
stound r: f0 p.0.
as dsngasoUs to
Highray 7.
((
right inE and theor 4100 p.l!. and
Dake a left tuan
right outs. I ras overon Highvay 4l the traf-off of Highway 4l as it
Cc,uncr I treetiog, f .."(f ,S:-t2-Councilo Geving: Councr[tDan Hord;l;;th;';;i;:;;; I:'ll-'ou. nentioned crosins orr o1io1" 1-",,o.
oentlon anything ,oou, n"t into that area aod to get out of that64th Street. llould you address that.
Wha t
area.
;:;;::;';o"H=#.,j0'llt1 leave 64rh street open- peopre ,ho sre headins r,est ondorn Hishr6y 7. ,n. oo,ll.l-tlto-that residentrol."".",orlJ-ui;;.;';;";", rartherttrere ii " "o.i".ii]o"gtroqs
prefe.abte soure rould be to rnake " i"ri.ir"n "n.""0riole Lene. Ihat is ,n,r..""",to, on Highray 4l and cone in oorn_iait
_it"e.t
ontot ray pcople should be doing it nolr. --- -l
f#H## #*, ;i;;,:;.,:,:;;""::.:;;"1;"iil.;.-r_don,t rhink rhere shou,d br €ny,ou havc all rhose .ir."1""" ;;1".;';;::"::::;_" :n". droserous arca it is, is becauseHish',ey z-".a 0.",r"";::";:u"r:;.,::.ril:;::"';;.:::.::1.:.1-",i'ii"". ii"""" on,oalong turns at cont!olled i.t"i.."ii-^]'::; 'I-v:-" Houldort allor 8ny left turns.nd t-h:t isjle.ray_yo, :"i,'::;:"::l::;.::ll.::.',n", '"lin" 1"r"r"i"1"1,"", traffic
Counci loan Gevino: And upgrade 64th Street.
9ouncilror"n S""nson,rn that s rea thrs a fte
I can
lnoonfic nas unsea.l . It is alnostis to nake a left turn onto
when you go
Hiqhray 4l?
Hoinr My feeling is, and Ilkinq person going to lrorkme at night he oakes o leFtto that residential area.
.ras thinkirlg of it in terns ofin the Dorning and cooing holllet urn onto Hi.ghr€y 4I 6nd then
Hhat I consides
at night, |rhen
has a right turn
,rorning
left on
right
closj.ng
as
That tro rks fine then,
and you are coDing out
but
of
rhat are you going to do in the0riole L ane and you are turnlng t
Couneiln an
notnLng.
Counci I nen
dsngerous.
Councilnan Horn.
tu !n onto Highray
0riole Lane off .
Councilpan Gevino:Are
Counciloen Horn: ye9,
Counei I man Gevino: Then
right out.there is a
You still have the optioo of goinq7r going up through the coE,Dercial
i,s going to bethete.
up th rough and nakingEre6. I ao proposing
the
to
I don.t knot{ Hhat th! traffic pattern is at that ti,re in the
Ggvino: I donrt knol{ either, but II think it is going to be just as
cao
bad
telt you itturning leFt
to have a right out?
a right out.
only reason rhy I pick optiongteater sepasation bettreen the
you still
right in
I aar nith
90rng
and a
,ou... t don,t have any ptob I ea there as long
Council|nan
that optron
tial area.
Ho.n: The
, gives a 5 over option 2 is that Icoo,nercisl areo 8nd the
thiDk
residen-
Counc I nonan Swenson: Ihat,9 I suggest tha tthere.rc oP.n this bccause it do.3 9iv.tthen the option of nsk ing 6n
true.
egae9s
Horn:
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Coulcilnan Horn: Ihat Lo rie, is a !esl.dentral question. If the regrdentg ,ouldpceier 2 over 5, I rouldn,t have aoy probleo ,,iLh that. Io oe, it aakes ,,ore sens!froo the ttaffic control. I ras responding to the questron in trying to isolate th!conoercial frolll the resrdential because to close that off it certainly is isolated.There is not goinq to be any coirEercial traf f i,c gorng through the residentisr a!ea.
I
I
Councilman ''lIf they rsnt the'
If they think they
I an open either lrsy
41, but as Ithe r.gidents
going have
the o the r
about sny
SepaEatron
xant that
on that.
Horn: l{y psoposal rould be the resident. s option.froo the comnercial 9rea, ,e {iIl close that off.for the access to Hj,ghray 7, re rill leave it open.To |ne, it is their preference.
tlayor Hami. lton: Being a gsterey to the City, uhich that piece of property really i,s,I rould like to see it nicely developed over there l,hether it is sesident!al oE co|!__oerci,sl . I understand the neighborg conce!ns that you don,t have collcercial ti,ghtoett to your property and I aD not surel.hy, becsuse if it is nicely donef I donrtthink it is rearly goinq to bother you at all. It probably ron.t bother you as ouchas multi.ple family hones. Horever, I ao not so suae that I sgree ,i,th the C-2zoninq. I can see C-1, on oost of it and possibly C_2 on glock l, Lots 2 and r, butleaving Block 2' Lot r and Block r,, Lot I as c-1, and lsqys Block r as it i,e. Irould have !o agree rith Hr. fhoopson that there has to be a better proposal con-cernirlg the tEaf f i,c ftor. Haybe there is another alternative soneplace. I ao not9ure that anybody is going to come up t.ith it. It seerns to ne to separate the tssf_fic fron the resi.dential area, xh.i,ch is a concern al9o, rould be to have the entsanceoff of Highray 41. Then you end up closing off 54th Street, rhich is. r;;;r;;';;;;.-So I really havenrt seen a plan I lj.ke as far as the traff.i,c is concerned. Ne havexotked rith the netqhbors up thece in trying to figure out hor re can handle theacci.dents that are happenrng on Highway 7. There have been a number of deaths that _have ocurred orl Hiqhvray 7 through accidents, and xe don,t need any Dore of th6!, isdonrt need to jeopardi2e nei people cofting into the area. It is a bad sltuati.on, andI ao just not sure hor lie can make i.t any better, oE if ,e eveo can. The traFfic and-being the gateway to the City from the north are tr,o very inpor!ant concerns of nine.I think it can easily be developed as C_1.
Counci llllan Gevino: Oo you have a preference Foc an option for the traffic?
I'layor Hanilton: I Iike option f the best ihe!e yoq cone oFF of |lighneysaid' you then end up closr.ng off 64th staeet and that ray not te Jrrot|iant either. But it does sepa.ate the conmercial traffic ttrat you arefro|! the residential traffic. That nay be ,rlore acceptable to theo thana I t e r n a t i v e s tl h e r e they are totally separated. you donrt ha ve t.,;;;;cor0ercial traffic going through any part of the residenti€l ares.
Co u ncilran Hoan
closer re can get
9ee the traffic.
tends to slor do*n
because I thi.nk a
flors. I think lre
dan qe ro us left tur
thc rorst thinq yo
0pti,on I, as I gee it, keeps Oriole LEne open. Hy coocero is thethis right-i,n , riqht-out to the I iqht, the slorer ,. are going to . _If re keep it back the!e a ray9, the traf f i.c tends to be fester andas you come up to the traffic light. Ihat i.s rrhy I favor optioo 5right-in, riqht-out rhen you Ere at a slolrer portion of th. traflic_are ioprovinq the situati.on becauge ,a ""o alirrnotiog thign into 0rio.re Lene by going iith opti.on ,. ro De, rcft turne siqu ""n_-:o in the safety of o highrey.
Councrl r.teeting, {f ,, ,r,,,
.CouncilIl|an c_evina: I9 i.t your proposal that if t,e closed Oriole Lane that you rouldIeave that frontaqe road open? So to get to Highlray 7, you r,ould have to cone allthe ray dorn to 54th Streel, then go north and tit tf,. nei slip lane, turn right sndthen you are on High|iay 7.
CouncLl Meetrngr June (a,,(6
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:8"'-qj!!['n Gevino: t think the devetoper hae a proposal here that the InDot p"oplehave said they have no plane to upgEade High,,ay 7 st 8ll. tf_ this dev.lop,,rent goesthrough' end if re build an accees onto Highrsy 7 becauee of this deveropnent, tt isgoiog to be done tight and it is going to be paid by the devrloper fully. IF r.e gorith this option ,, thst still krsps Oriol! L"n" op.n and.any iopEoveo!nts thet h6vebeen nade to 0ri.ole Lene, they rontt be raede by thr developer. lle xill pay for thosecoets' r don't think that thc taxpsyers xould: go for that because thLs is forced onu!r' rithout this developnent' re rouldn't-be ttrinring about doing thi3. r think ifthis project goes throuqh and it is. causad because the develop"" .oru" in xr.th plansto chsngr- so.Qthinq-'. then le ought..to. do it right and ,.e ought to rnak! the developerpa, Eny aDount of ioprovenents that are oade to this aree. Thst is rhy I rant toetick to one of the plans that shors that as part of this proposal.
llavor Haoi I ton r
separating the
so you are not cooce!ned xith the resi.dentratraffic, coEne!cial and residenti,al.conce rn about
to Eake sure that the resi.dents don,t
ha ve done otherrise.
Counci lrnan Gevrno: I an concerned,
get stuck paying for sooething that
Mavor Hafii lton r
8ut I rant
re wouldnrt
But they .nay pEefe. to pray fot it if they get rhat they would Iiketo have.
Counci I |!an Gevioo: It never really rorks out that ray.
Councilro,n l{atson: 0n option lhave 64th Street cone off ol thetnould still co,re onto that, bl,tt ian ea sy option, they could stillstill psobably rould end up beingbe the quickest ray out of there.
' if you brought that cul-de-sac in, you could stillor sone p!oposal of that so!t yrhere 64th Streetf it came out at an angle or sorlething that it re9n,toaybe use that option foE the oeighborhood. But itthe choice of the people because i,t isn,t 9oin9 to
9glarcilrooan sxeoson: rhe onry proble,o I rould have rith that is if they leavc anykind of a left-in Eotion off of xighray 7 that people coning frotr the i.3t in orderto avoid the light are going to cot. in through 0tioIe Lane. Fron a safety stand_point, I rou.ld like to close 0riole Lane, since they csn,t 9o r.est or rtorn to 64thStreet. -I realize that i9 not popular. As far as the Frontage road, the neighborsdo not have to use it if they don.t rant to. fhere iill be no "o""on fo. anybodycoiring into the coonercial €re8 to co'le a!ound there into ttre rcsidential. I don,t
!lln* rou are going to get env rcaidential trEffic Froft thst. If *; Jclrgr,"t. it,like councilnan Ho!n e6id, as 6 right-in and a right-out, *e clirt.",.-in. danges ofleft hand tuans co,ning off of Highrey 7. Ie give people the optioo of qotng inaround on Highisy 7 0r 64th Stseet or farthar rest off of that 808d. ce'n re ask thcresidents rhat thcy think sbout this?t
Havot Haoilton: Ihe only thinq there r.s, rf you close off 0rrole Lane and you donrtput lhe frontage coad in, then the !esrdents the.e have a ftuch fa.ther di.stance todrive to get to Highr,sy 7 thenselves. It riiay be a tot safer, but it is gorng to befarther for then to drive. That may not be rhat they rant to do. tf you leave0riole Lane as it is noi, perhapg improve tha! intersecti,on so there is a right-inand a riqht-out and then crose off 64th Street and have the co'nerical traffic comingin off of Hj,gh_rey 41. : Frot! all coonents fsoo the people, it seems as though that r,asooe on th.ir oajor conceang ia9 to separate the coomercial t!affic fron the residen_tial traffic. If you qo iith option 5, you still hEve the possibility of oixing thetro. They.rr still sepaaated sone, but not as much as if you rould go iith option-_thre.. -------,..
CouncrL""rrnn,.t[,{6
Counc i 1ro". n *atson: Is
Councilfian Horn: It is
Counci I roman
2, the fronta
and a right-o
make a left t
trB5
tha t basrcally
a cho i ce betr.een option 2 and opt ron 5
opt ion 2?
Sxenson: The oo.ly difference betreen option 2ge coad i3 open and I have nade the exit ontout. At the point Hhere the oedian di,vides theurn cooing froo the east.
and 5 i,s
Hrghlray 7
high!ray,
on opti.on
right-in
can't
that
as a
they
Pete Ihrodahl ! Hy only probler
if soneone rrants to cone out andtrhat you are t8l kinq about.
right-io and the right_out
on Highra y 7, tha t ri I I be
is the fact:that
protribi ted in
r. i th the
go iest
the neighborhood
Counci I nan Gevinor Thcy are probably doj,ng that ri,ght non.
Counciliq1115n
Highway 7, ih
dange rous as
dan gerous. T
hand turn, lro
go iegt rould
th an going ou
St{enson: They could go dorn to 64th Street and onto Highrey 41,i,ch nould certainly be a lot smarter because if thj.9 road is a9ev!rybody 9€ys' everybody o'ust recognize that a reft hand turn iherefore, going up Sandpiper Irail is still gorng to give then 6uIdn.t it be smsrter, it seeits to ne For prudent people, if theybe to go dorn to 64th Street end take the Ii9ht, rhtch is a lott on Sandprper Trail.
Counci lvonan Srensonl At this pasticulas spot, yes.
Pete Throdaht r You
and
to cone
out onto
are gorng
r,ind up
Pete Throdahl: That is ny only point i,sout thal they can short cut the tight inby going back up through the oeighborhood
Throdahl:
Bill Monk
in the loog
ti on at gone
64th Street and go back up througback dorn to
Sandpiper.
Just a coEoent. If the City proceeds ',i.thrun, lre rill be cootDi,tting to signalizationpoint in the future. I am concer.ned thst
full access only on T.H. Ol,of the 64th Street intersec_ -the I.H.4l access iill not
even though it does col!pl e _
to
I
left
ren t t
sa fer
full access on HighHay 7 iB
L
disputi,ng rha t you are saying. I think that
as long as people don't start figuEingco.net and getting out onto Highray 4Lthat type of a p!oposal. I ar noti.s the right way.
rould you rather have this
that
the
on
qouncilnan Horn: If you had your choice of option Z ot S,in or out ?
provide the safe access point evetyone is searching fortely scp€rate the coonercial and regidential traffic.
Cor.rnci lronan Sirengon I In your opinion, do you believe theless dangeaous than forcing it dorn onto Highlray 41..
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Fill Monk: I felt that option 2 iss the best rhethe. or not the frontage rosd iathere. I lrould have to egree rith Councilnan Ho.n thst this rss,o"" of a r!srdentioloption as to ,,hether or not thev rented to keep that "".u.. ti"i .ioi.l'ora "ra""neeting rith Hnoot, finding out thst, phystcslly, a left hand turn lenc could be putio on Highray 7 and rith s good site distence thoption 2 xould iork ae d.eisned. r betieve ,." :ir;:_:::':r;;:_::,":;rlrt:i::,:":x:.-8ut you rould havr to lEok at Hi,gh,.sy 41. rhat is 90in9 to increEs! io trEffics i qn i f i can t I y .
Pete
an entrance for
that fact, that
I aln only gpeaking for nyself, I think trhat you are doing is creatingthe developoent and robbing us rhatrle have iad all tfre tinre. Cir.;-iould give us a ray to get out that ray.
'Councrl lteetinq, :r." (( sl (6
the greatest amounC of
Councilro,n ao Snenson:trhich type of desrgnated comnerclaltraffic, C-l or C_ 2?
-i6_
do you feeI lrill geoerate
Counci Inran Horn
ttaffic go ing down
Hayor Halnilton!
Pl an a11gn6araa a
You ate
zoni.ng
intersections youpossible, to get
onto each street.
there is not full
the land use
to corn,netcial.
lox
Hoving thj,s intergection up to here rould certainly nitigate anyto Chaska Road, if re did that.
9_i.!f lo"nl- I rould srque iith that. If you are going to offset,ant to offset them at least nore than t0;-;";;: Trro huodred, ifsnay frol! conflictinq turn Eoveoentg, peop.te trying to turn leftYou a.c. cc.at ins- a- !eal uao turninl-Jr;;;;i;, ;':"recial ly becaqseoro".:_ l:n.:, _.,". t riould stronqiy """orrunJ igarost tt.
There i9 a notion in orde r torequested to change lor density
ei ther deny o! approvereeidential I and use
Couoeilxoman liatson: Could,re reviei
Satb Dacv:
be doing the
to Como
A. Land usp
"li#,@
Request to chanoe Lo,{
a Dotion for the
next motion.
for the
Acres for
Subdivision
Conoerci al Deve I o
one ,[ote ti,n. rhat C-l is?
land use just for conmercial and youl,ill
Denistv Resrdentia I Land Usee
making
in the
xould I ike to
tvo reeks.
reque s t to chahge thelras seconded by Hayo rCouncilroman Snenson,
l,lotion car.ied.
Counciloan Gevrng movad to approve the land use aoend,llentdensity residentj,al Iend use to comnercial _ C_1. HotionHsmilton. The folloni.noco,n.,i,"n ;;;"';;;";:;i.;:,.:,il"ii;:;;" I:l::.r:lijlSl:t
8. Rezonino Reouest
^
Resloence to C-1.
Louncl lnan Horn noveLots 2 and I as C-2.
ik- ,,"-'llotion died for iack of a second.
CouncilDan Gevinq noved to reu one glock I and Block 2,r,i th Elock J renaj.oino at R_1. llotion ,ras sc"Jno.O O,folloHing voted in faJor: Hayor Haoilton, CouncilrotnanGeving. CouncilroI,lan llatson qppqss6. llotion ca!ried.
:ll lo s, to C_l designation,
Louncl I Holltan Srenson. f heSrenson, Counci loen Horo and
c Pte I in inary P tat Aooroval
end 2.0ofl.l. 1.9-4
Todd fhoraoson:
I
I
af a 7.9 Acte Parcel into 4 Lotspnent:
pornt in ti,me for tEble the pcoposai on t.he preli,Dinary plat at this
Councillttrn Geving rt|oved to tableras seconded by Councr. lman Horn.Counci I rooen llatson and Svensg6,llot ion carried.
plat
voted
and
app.oval for tio reeks. t{otion
_ln. tavor: lrayor Hsnrlton,Geving. No negative votes.
the prel i,,rinary
The following
Counci I lnen Horn
ffiff**.ffiffi-n+r-'* FAMJLY DETa.HED L,Ts' EAsr 0F AND A,TA.ENT ro TERBER., uacv: Ihrg request is a sLetch plsn, so th:;xm: :r :ru;*ij::.:i"iii:i*, ;ilj ::"i:::,';":,:::: ::':;:':;::'"rnI.,.!n the eagt sitc oF Kcrbrr Boulcvard.
Eill Honk: r-,
Couneil,"o',en Sweoson: .Since we are conceaned about the traffic generated, canlre alleviate that probleo by going rlan
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISS ION
MAY 22, 1985
Chairman nyan ca11ed the meeting to order at 7:38 p.m
Members Present
Barbara Dacy, City
Sietsema, Park and
secretary.
Planner, BiIl Monk, City Engineer, IoriRecreation Coordinator and Vicki Churchill ,
OI,D BUSINESS
Minnewashta Gate Southwest Corner of 41 and 7, Tomac
Development , Todd Thompson , appl l Can t
a. Land Use Plan Amendment R uest #85-2 to chan e Low Densit
Res ident IA I Iand use to commercial.
PubIic Present
Peter Thompson
Bob Reutiman
Todd B. ThompsonRick Sathreilim Christenson
?on Kely
Bob Scholer
Pete & Kathy ThrodahlBalb WegnerLinda ConnerLouise Lehner
Hud Hollenbach
Richard tling
Kenneth W. Ziegler
Roger & KelIy El-lsworthSandra LehnerBruce T. Mackedan z
Agnes Anderson
Don & Fayadel DudychaBiII e Delores ZieglerRalph & Kay Hegman
ATrhoHlu aJreE-
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Jim Thompson, Tom Merz, Susan Albee, BiIl Ryan, Ladd Conrad, andMike Thompson.
llembers Absent
Howard Noz i ska
Staff Present
215 Barry Ave. , Wayzata
5915 Galpin Lake RoadI9050 Stratford Road
15311 Knob HilI Curve, Minnetonka
4444 IDS
74 9l Saratoga Drive
7212 Frontier Trail
6345 Minnewashta Woods Drive
2511 Orchard Lane
2521 Orchard Iane
6331 Fir Tree, Excelsior
6330 E1m Tlee Ave.
3481 Shore Drive
5441 Oriole Ave.
6480 Oriole Ave.
6451- Oriole Ave.
2840 Washta Bay Road6470 Oriole Ave.
6451 Oriole Ave-
6441 Oriole Ave.
63 61 Minnewashta woods Drive
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George R. ThomasAllen Putnam
Pat & Ginny Hanily
James C. Maj eres
Rick BatesonBetty Iang
Pat Huttner
Dick & Yvonne Braun
Cheyenne Ave.
Chaska Road
Orchard IaneOriole Ave.Oliole Ave.Forest Ave.Forest Circle
Orchard Iane
8029
6285
2660
6450
6440
263L
53 40
2630
Bafbara_ Dacy: This item sras tabled from the last meeting forprimarily three issues. The first was the traffic issue wantingwritten information from MnDOT. Secondly, was some type of buglfering plan and thirdly was some type of land use anaiysis forthe adjacent properties. Filst, I lrou1d like to addre-ss the'traffic issue. you have your packet a letter from Evan Green,the District Engineer from ltnDOT, who has basically stated thatthe proposed plan has been considered and represenled on thistransparency meets the requirements of l,lnDOT, however, this planthat vra s reviewed by MnDOT is based on tero very important con-ditions. One, that the developer made median impr6vements hereand right turn improvements here. MnDOT will noi bear theexpense of these improvements. I want to back up a little bitand review some of the thought processes that went into the traf-fic design of this proposed plat. The City Engineer identifiedtwo important parameters that has been used to develop this p1at.One is the separation of the new commercial area from theevisting residential sector while nraintaining all existing traf-fic patterns. Secondly, upgrading the T.H. 7 access situition toan acceptable safety leve1 while not significantly inpactinqthrough traffic. I think it is general knowledge thai the 6rio1eaccess for a left turning movement is not particularly safe. Intrying to maintain access to 7 and 41 , it was started out as a"T" shape intersection where Oriole would be closeil, the accessonto 7 and connecting into the proposed subdivision. Hordever,this caused a concern because it would require the removal ofthis house and this woul.d be located guite close to the Zieqlerhorne. Other options have been suggested by surrounding prof,.rtyowners. One is to completely separate the pr.oposed commercial -
area from the residential area by keeping Oriole and, as onealternative, creating a cu1-de-sac into the property. Staff hassevere reservations about this proposed plan because there willbe a certain amount of traffic leaving the commercial area thatwiII want to go west on 7 and there vrill be comrnercial trifficgoing through the neighborhood, out onto Oriole and out onto 7.rt has also been suggested that access be compretery rocated fromHwy. 4l . MnDOT, in your letter, has stated that first of all itwould have to be located at reast 600 feet from the intersectionand secondly, 64th Street would have to be closed from the west.
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This option would also entail keeping Oriole Lane open. Thereservation of the negative aspect of this option is that it doesclose off a secondary access into and out of the neighborhood andprevents access to 41 from the residentiaL area over in here.Another option would be to eliminate the frontage road betereenOriole and the proposed access, keep it on 7 as proposed by theapplicants. Eowever, for the neighborhood, they would have touse this route to get to 4l . It has to be remembered, as pointedout by the City Engineer, that by closing Oriole and moving theintersection toward the east and by the requirement that thedeveloper has to improve and make a right turn movement and makemedian improvements here, it would a11ow for a safer access from7 into the area. There would be more area for a by pass lane.The next issue that I wanted to discuss was the bu?firing plan.
The applicant is proposing that planting 60 six foot spruce alongthe 1ot line as well as accent plantings along the entrance tothe proposed commercial area. As everyone will note there is agrade here, a hill at the rear of ziegler's property, that hillwill be maintained and retaining wa1l constructed to maintainthis slope. The elevation of the property gradually drops as youproceed south. what is shown on this graphic is a conceptualsight line as seen from this house and this house do$rn at theintersection of Oriole and 64th. If you $rere to stand at therear of this house and look in this direction, the sight linewould reveal that you would be able to see a roof of a one storybuilding; however, down at the corner because the elevation dropsthe house down at the corner would be able to see a two story orone story building. It should be remembered that through theindividual site plan process for these lots, that the city wouldhave control as to place the location of the parking area and thebuilding areas on site as well as additional screening andlandscaping. The th j.rd issue that I wanted to address lras theadjacent uses and land uses. This is the subject parcel righthere. all of the area west of the intersection to the Chanhassenborder is designated as Low Density. The l"tinnewashta park isover here, the school site is over here. We have one non-conforming use, an office use, at the intersection of OrchardLane and Hwy. ?. One of the former planning Commission membersbrought to my attention that in 1974 the planning Commission atthat time did a land use study of this area. It r.ras their recom-mendation at that time that this area be maintained as LowDensity. This particular intersection was looked at previouslybefore the 1974 study it was designated as service coimercial.-That particular study recommended that because of unknown impro-vements or when they would take place on Highway 7 and 4I , thatthat area be medium density. Another important recommendation ofthat study done in 1974 was that Iov, density designation shouldbe maintained so that the city would have the aaditionaL control ,so that there would be an additional step in the process, a guideplan amendment which r^re are considering tonight, Lhat would
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require additional review and that a nev, proposal wouLd have tojustify by its submission, applications and io on why that nerr,use would be compatible with the adjacent properties. Of par_ticular concern and for some folks that have Lalleal me, is thenotion or idea of creeping commerciarism and r have distributedtonight a letter from Mr. wagner rdho has reviewed the history ofthe o1d Baltic building that is now occupied by a travel agency.That is a non-conforming use, it zoned R-1 and-staff is no[.recommending that be commercial nor are we recommending that ithave a cornmercial rand use designation. r,rr. wagner do6s bring upthat the, landscaping that supposedly should hav6 been installed -
last faLl has not and r will be conlacting the property owner anaseeing to it that sonething is done as to hrhat ir""'"rpi"""a' to U"done and not completed. rt is a non-conforming use "i'"n-otti..yse. The city d.oes have the right, if it is hiving an adverseimpact on the adjacent property owners, i,re have a iifiit -[" - i.ror.'the permit. Also looked at in. the analysis was the ;roperty tothe south of 64th street. It has been irentioned as i-.i-.i'these meetings that the site be used potentially tor'iornno*"" o.some type of attached housing. again, this may or nuy not becompatible; however, we are not recommending a change'in thisdesignation to afford the city additional c6ntrol tnrorjf, -tf,"
land use plan amendment. Finully, this piece across tfr6 =iieetwhich is formed by awy. 7 to the north, dhaska Road and HrV. Af.There is two or three property ohrners and part of it is in'theCity of Shorewood and part of it is zoned -n-3 which will il-iowtwo family homes. It has been suggested that if this p"r."i g"commercial then this parcel should go to. However, stiff isfeeling-that the parcel under question now offers i,".. "ppoi_tunity for separation of conmefciar traffic than this ao'e-s-on :.tsspace. Traffic going east would undoubtedly have to use ChaskaRoad and that wourd be directing commercial traffic ttrroujrr- ttreneighborhood, where as in this proposal you have "" ';S;-iip"design connecting 7 to 41 . theie are also some topographiialconcerns that staff has. There are undulating row- rind- areas inand around the intersection. The right turn lane for awy. afalso borders the western rot line an6 r can'!t speak t"i il"oot urtI cannot imagine they would aIlow access onto a right turn iane.To summarize, we have three requests here tonightr-a land useplan amendment request, a rezoning request, arra "'preliminaiyplat request. I just $rant to nake clear that we "i" ,"-o^rliaingdesignation of this site to commercial; however, *" ur" noirecommending the site here as commercial. We are recommending itremain as R-1 .
Eill Rvan: The issue has been before us before, it was tabledtor three specific reasons, primarily we were waiting for areport from t4nDOT. I will ask the applicant if he wints to addanything else. When we get to the public discussion, I rdould askthat if you have something that you lrish to comnent on that per_tains to the new information thai has been derivered tonight, we
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Todd ?hompson:
t ould Like to thtonight. We hav
everybody is infactually done hebest usage of th
does not agree wfamily residenti
have to look at
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will certainly allow that presentation. Again, we havethrough this a number of times, the issue was tabled andthree reasons have just been discussed again and I wouldlimit it to those if possible unless you have somethingca11y viewed to be important and critical to this issue.
been
thoselike tospecifi-
f am the President of Tomac Development and Iank you for the opportunity to be here againe been over this rnany different times and I hope
ormed as to irha t rre Erre doing. What we havere again is come up with what we think is theis particular land at this time. I know everyoneith that. I donrt think its best use is singleal . f think once we get beyond that point, wethe real best use for the property is.
Bill Ryan:Have you reviewed the letter from MnDOt?
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Rick Sathre: I an the engineer for this project and we have;&IEwed it- and I don I t tfiink the people iave and maybe I cansunmarize it a 1ittle nore. They are saying either or as far asthe access on Oriole or the new access, but not both. So inregards to whatever is developed on this site, if it is truelygoing to be a different land use than single family Iow densilyresidential , it's probably better to mcve the access to the eastso the uses can be separated because they won,t a1low two accesspoints. They did say that if an access to the site was going tobe created farther north than 64th, they wanted 64th to beclosed. I think that the circulation that woul-d be afforded tothis site as well as to the neighborhood itself woutd be bettersuited by the through street pattern than having a cul-de-sacserve just this area. The sections that we iliil , ere are trying torepresent what would truely be the condition upon developmEnt ofthe property. What we found is that in this c;itical arEa in thecorner of the frontage road and the access road that the existingtopography plus the berming and landscaping that could be done inthis corner would sufficiently screen the Ziegler house. As youmove south along the property line from them, then the land massis so much similar in elevation in the homes to this land, thereis no natural barrier anymore, it has to be artificially created.What Tomac is willing to do, upon zoning of the propert|, butI^Ie11 before, perhaps years before the office Uuitdings iie buiIt,they will provide the buffer pJ.anting that we sugges[.ed "o ihutthose trees could start to rnature. Because if you are reallygoing to try to plant something that going to d6 a good l"U inyears to come, you have got to give it a litt1e time to grow. Asto the character of the buildings, when we designed rdhat weplaced on the board, yes it is a suggestion at [.his point, we €ir enot asking for a building permit now and we can,t sa| absolutelythat somebody else someday might not propose somethiig different,.
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Pat Huttner:
developer , s asresponsibilit i
Barbara Dac
" Deve lopmen tdit which isthe amount ofoff site imprcity is alway
J.mprovemen ts
vatel y instal
improvements
money is comisecurity. Wethe improveme
Bill Ryan :cific that
What has been the cityis experiencesuming highway or street cost and ores. I am not familiar with that.
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but the concept, what we are asking for there, or what wethink is appropriate in the neighborhood is not a three or fourstory brick and mortar office building. What I think isappropriate, what we have discussed and what we have piesented toyog i: a lower slung rore residential in character ofiicebuilding. I am suggesting wood frame construction with-a pitchedroof so it doesn't look out of character with the ""itr,u".[""a.There are. many exampres in the the Trin city area "r-6"iiai.g=that are buiLt on a smalrer scale, probabry for one oa iro-,r""r"per building. The thought is that Lrre ruiidings would o"-a""nsized and more residential in character, it ni;ht ";ii ;; ;;._dominiumi zed,
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to professional offices or something of that type.But we are talking a smaller scale building and "-r"=ia."ii"fcharacter for construction.
with private
deve Iopmen t
Pat Huttner:
highway gr ound
So the city makes the improvements on the state
Bar bar a Dacy :
The developer will enter into erhat is known as aContract'r where they have to submit a letter of cre_an anount of noney or financial security equal toimprovements on site and if there are '.ny n.c.=".ryovements like intersection improvements so that the-s assured that r.re have the money to conplete theand that the improvements are never IefL incomplete.
No there are two options. The developer can pri_1 the street improvements and make the irainage' -
or they can petition the city to do that but iheng from the developer to submit the financial
have_ a development contract that wilt insure thatnts will be put in p1ace.
On the state highway, the letter from MnDOT was spe_the developer would bear the cosLs.
Barbara ptcy: I.wiI1 read directly from the letter. ,,MnDOT willnot provide any improvements for a revised access. The "o"i orany changes rould. have to be born by others. n we have .i i-"on_dition.of approval of the plat, if lhat is to be apJrou.i, -.."orn_
mendation #6- The new access onto Trunk Highway z irirr u"'rurrydeveloped to a1low for alI turning movemen[.s iicfuainq "-.iintturn lane for eastbound highway traffic and a separ.t6 ,."1'to.nlane for hrestbound highway traific. These requiiements ,iif u"in addition. to any r"lnDor Lonairions requi."d ;-"-;;ri-"i-it,"i.acc::s . permit procedure. So r,,re are recommending tiat it be acondition of pl.at approval.
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leaving thaC
Allen Putnam:
came out
Barbara
Road.
Allen Putnam:cross 41
Barba rathat IErt icular
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Rick Bateson: Has there been any traffic counts done on the 54thor Oriole?
Barbara Dacy:No, not to my knowledge.
I would like to request one. One particularreason, ].s
add i t ional
be picking
Bill Ryan:
that is a very narrow street and if lde start gettingtraffic through there, I want to know who is going ioup the special assessments to improve the road.
One of the proposals that you had shown, Barbara, wasaccess onto 7 and I would assume you would want to clarify that.Point out that it is not up to through street slandards and youwould not route commercial traffic around on that street.
That is the intent of the proposed design.Ther eenois d rect access to 7 and 41 and therefore there should breason why the comrnercial traffic wouLd go onto 64th and toOriole unless it is a member of the neighborhood.
Al1en Putnam:If you come out 64th and cross 41 you run up to
Chaska Road. what could be done or planned leaving 64th the wayit is to prevent people from crossing 41 and entering Chaska Roadto go down there. I think that it would be something that manypeople would use that.
Barbara Dacy: There would besite and crossing
Could you make take a right or left as theywithout crossing 41?
Dacy: You r.rould have to block the entrance to Chaska
no th ing
41 and
peopl e
to plevent
going onto
anyone from
chaska.
Could you make
by making a left and
Dacy:I donrt think
locat ion .
it so that no one could
Ian e?
or enforceright turn
that would be a sound practice at
I donrt think Chaska Road could handle the traf-f ic.
Barbara Dacy:I agree the road is in bad condition.
Bill Ryan :I hrould hesitate in saying that traffic
and go dorrn Chaska Roadcome out of that developmenta major highway.
is going
rather
to
than
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Barbara Dacv:
Pgter Throdahr: r have been here before. we seem to beat thisEnrng to death. f do hor.rever represent some neighborhood trEople
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tonight and I am speaking for then,and some of lhe people along OrioleBarb that you got a letter from Bobthat included in everyone's [Ecket?
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specifically the Ziegler'sand the Wegner's. I believe
Wegner dated May 20. Was
Barbara Dacy:Yes they received it.
Barbara Da
Peter-Throdail: -Are there any questions I might answer inregards to that letter? I think the fourth point ttrat Bob wasmaking is pertinent .to i{hat is going on here tonight which dealswith the ingress and egress on that-property. To summarize that,it says basically that the neighborh6od- does not want to hiveOriole repositioned to connection with Tomac Development. Hissununarization is that r feer oriole shouLd be left is is -and
ane$, entrance be planned on 4r for ttre Tomac Development and 64thstreet entrance onto Highway 41 closed, 64th streei traffic waywould then become a cul-de-sac along the residential deveiopmentto the south and traffic.would go back then to Highway 7. itutis being suggesred here is an aicess off of 41 th;t wiufa pioviaea single access- r think that is a reasonable alternativel r amnot sure the developer would agree $rith that, but I think we areall looking for some compromises on this whoi-e project. r ifrinfthe traffic flow is a very important cons iderati on - part icurir 1yconcerning a new city park that is down there prus a residentilldevelopment that is going on in that neighborh6od. If we don'thandle that we are going to have some reil problems and I don'twant to come back in 6 months or a year and start hashing overthe traffic that is going through the neighborhood. I tfrink Barbarticulated three or four of those alternitives and I don't knowif those get addressed tonight in terms of what gets approved.Do you have the one I am talking about?
of4 and
Jim Ma eres:
bus ness the rcurious abouthigher than thlittle view an
Richard Wing:
met with thediscuss theirparcel would
In relation to this chart about how much of actualesidences backing to the lot would see, I am rrnrethe people across Oriole. We are a 1ittle bitese residences here and there is actually veryd what the ratio and height it would be-
I am right behind that property. (Could not hear) AIso I would prefer to have a left turn lane.chances on keeping Oriole open and getting rear
I am just curious if the Commission has at anytimeCity of Shorewood or the Shorewood planners tocomprehensive plan and how the rezoning of thisaffect the City of Shoreerood and future development.
This one I tried to shorr, some type of entrance off
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r have a letter that was part of study done for the public safetyCornmission and I am seeing here, that the public Safetycommission has met with their city planner. The concein r haveis -the access gn Hwy. 7 and the curient traffic problem on U*y. Zand 41. The City of Shorewood is obviously commircial to thenorth of this parcel and is going to be developed commerci.al;however, they arentt going to allow any access onto IIwy. 7 whichis a primary concern. As I look at thL various plans i:ere, Iguess we have a knordn problem on Hwy. 7. Serioui accident rate,numerous deaths and to complicate it further with additionalaccesses at this time is perhaps inappropriate. I wouLd opposethe access o! Hwy. 7 at this time. Left-turns obviously ail tfr.biggest problem, the major cause of accidents within thisstretch of highway. I guess again my question is have you con-tacted or discussed this with the City of Shore$rood and is thereany parallel operations going on and how is this effecting theircomprehensive plan.
Earbara Dacv: I have spoken twice with Brad Nielsen, the plannerfrom Shore$rood. We looked over the plat and they were notifiedas part of our notification process. He represented to me thatthe City of Shorewood, as far as this parti-ular location isconcerned in the southwest corner of the intersection, what hestated to me rra s whatever Chanhassen wants to do with that parcelthat is their business. They are particularly concerned abiutthe parcel across the street where I eluded to earlier that theboundary line splits an oerner's property so they are looking atwith more interest in the area acrois the street. As far atHighway 7 j.s concerned, there is no question that from l0I westthat it is becoming a problem and thus the detailed review thatwe have gone. through lrith !,tnDOT on this particular p1an. Thequestion again has been the left turning movement iito OrioLeLane and according to MnDOT's letter, the proposed plan by movingthat intersection east and. with median improvements- can iirprovethat turning movement. They have reviewea the proposed faioutand they feel that what is being proposed is accepiaUfe.Shorewood, M'DOT and the City oi Ctranhassen were workinq with theMetropolitan Council, we may begin to look at Hwy. 7 U.iu""" itis becoming a- regional issuE now, crossing many -municipalities.
However, at this particular location, staif fe-ets ttrat'w;-h;r"done our homework as to this proposed street layout.
John Warrgn:. I \as not at your last hearing on this. Although Iunderstand- that many comments were made are certainfy co.mentsthat I would want to make from the standpoint fro. "6.u"nu-"nodoes live about a mile and a quarter away from ttu "ii.-It="rf.My concern is with trro areas, that is the spot develop..n i -.o"_
cept which disturbs me terribly. I am very concerned about that.We have a neat area there between 4l , Minnewasnta Sfva, Z-ina S.We are on the highway that is rea11y bad and f am very concernea
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May 22, 1985
Page 10
Mike Thom pson:Did they say it would be 3,000
Barba ra Dac NO,
about what this commercial development might do to increase traf_fic in a very congested area. f ippi..i"te the concern of thedevelopers in trying to_make_ a sarli ifproactr for that left rurn1ane, but r think that -r wourd susp-.f in.t the increase in traf-fic due to commercial development iifi compound the danqer9.:pi!: the minor improvemenl. r wourd iii;-; ;; il;;;'you hadmade the cofunent earlier during your presentation that if therewould be considerabre cornmerciil - trafiic , you just said a minuteago, that the traffic would be pretty werl- ca16u1"t.J. - la""-^question is do vou has there ueen an!, "rii"i;i-;;Iiili.""'or.-sented to the commission resardins ,i.r"t "iii-[.-H;-;;;i"iplr.atraffic egress and ingress.
Earbara pacy3 In conjunction with our review with trfnDOT we didsome_ preliminary figures based on a proposed 4 acre office-complex. These are just suggestions foi uses, office complex, aquality restauranr, a conveilence store "iah-p;;;-."a"i.Iil "drive-in restaurant. we can estimate anywher! ti"* jloiio,t"5,000 average daily traffic trips. I know that sounds-"""iy Urtr. think what the major. assumpti-on has to be in this ir.iv=il i"that arot of the existing tr"ffic goinj through that ini6i"".tionwill be using the servicEs at the i"* lo^..r.ial area. rt ishard to sav exactlv what percentage ot-ito"" u".rug"-auiii irip"wirl be fr6m the .ii"ting'trarric, -p."pi. gorng west and pickingup bread and milk and filling the'gis lanr; rroirever, ia; iocat;.onat a major intersectiol yith the pioposed traffic i*prorre*"ntsthat intersection has fu1l traffiS iirprovements as fir as stop1ights, right turn lanes, etc. except for the subject "iu.-in"tamount of traffic can be accommodat6d and the traitic j.n..uti""was taken into account as part of MnDOT's review. I h;;;-;;"_firmed that with them by p[rone.
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this is based on the figuresInstitute of Transportation,
to 5,000 trips?
that I haveEngineering, Trip
+fb=_Paql: They had a trip generation figure per acre. on
:1t:, soullr$rest part the street was a 4 acre site and the i.nfo._mation. that I got from that book was 240 average daily trips peracre which equals 960. A quality restaurant ai 5,400'squiie fe"tis 405, a drive-in restaurint is 1,6s9, " nigfi-quiiii"-iJ-'sio unaa convenience store is 2,250. -Depending on irtra f ii a6"ufoi"a
"nthere it could be as low as 3,000 and ai rrEny as 5,000 and itcould go higher. It just depends on the uses.
Generation Guide from Metropolitan Counci 1.
Mike Thom pson:So what you did is superimposed those.
Mike Th ompson:So 3,000 to 5,000?
Barbar Dacy:Yes, f think that is a good average.
proposed accessto what we aremajor problem.
you I re talking
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my home in that area and checked the zoning with the city. Iam very concerned that we keep changing the zoning after some ofus purchased our homes thinking that we were buying in a resi-dential area that would not be developed conrneriial .
Hud Hollenbach: I think we should als o remember that theregional. park is going to attract something like 7,500 people aday. The problem with that is these are people from oulsi&e theneighborhood who are not familiar with the road systems. Theseare the people that are strange in the area and don.t know wherethe residential section is, that plus convenience store typebusinesses which also attract people, to me poses a dangei- fargreater than neighborhood type traffic. So in addition to justthe traffic count. r think we should consider the type of tiafficwe are talking about.
Albee moved, seconded by J
A11 voted in favor and the
Mike Thomoson:This area
Ba rba ra Dacy: Residential
Mike Thompson:Whatrs thethat is
Barbara
Mike Thom son:
. Thompson to closemotion carried.
is now guide planned
the public hearing.
r,trhat ?
f,ow Densi ty.
zoning? Is there anything in there
commer ci a1?
Dacy :R-1. No just in the City of Shorewood side.
The plans that
and the present
asked to approve
When we take a
3,000 to 5,000
lre are looking at as far as theaccess, I am a little confused asand look because the traffi,c is alook at the traffic counts and iftrips a day so you are talking3,000 in and 3,000 out which is 6,000.
Barbara Dacy:The 31000 to 5,000 is trips in and out.
L,like tho[plon: O.K. so we are taking an area that is now suidepranned R-I and we are introducing into it, where we have inestabrished residentia] neighborhood, a commercial use and if wegone with it, then we take. on the obligation ot sofving-"if-"tthe. traffic problems and the co.,""qr"n6"s of that n.igtU"ih""a.I. think at that point the neighborhood has a right to';pp""" ttri"thing based on traffic. r do;,t think the 1ett6r f;;*-ffi;;tmeans anything because r think maybe this is not a uij iss"e torthem and I think that they will just assume that the I"i""-ri.ffgo away and I canrt see that they necessarily have any answer tothis, it doesn't resolve anything. I think 'tt,.i if-*l "ii;iresolve the traffic and that we have opposition rrom ttre-neign-borhood, there is no reason we should -cinsiaer i.li"a""ir"-l "o.-mercial area inro an established residential develo;;;;a:' i" ...
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May 22, 1985
Page 13
Ladal Conrad:One thing that lirn DOT di
not obligated to change the land use, $re are not obligated torezone it- rf rde consider a commerciar, then we shouid .oo"ia",a very 10w, 10w use such as a c-l use. we shoulal not consider ac-2 which introduces the commerciar retail, which r r.roura-"ot uefor. I know that turn off. Another issue that was Urougirl-up j.sthat is a good one is.the regional park. The IErk at this pointnot reached its capacity as far as usage. Thai area if it itartsgenerating the traffic that you are talking about, ffry. ai isgoing to have problems too.
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noticed is traffic backing up fromhigh speed lane. A question; thatbodyrs got to pick up the expense1ane.
7if
of
d not do in their study, Ito 41 , backing up into thewe increase, I think some-exLending that particular
pIat. We are recommending that the citythat all necessary traffic improvements
Barbara Dacy ; But that this a condition
Ladd Conra d: Who is responsibJ-e for irnproving that?
Barbara Da cy: That
of approval
impose thebe made.
for thecondition
Jim Thompson:He is talking about the left turn lane east of theintersection.
Ladd Con rad:golng west.
It backs up into the high speed lane of H\^ry. 7
concern. MnDOT hasintersection onto 7
Ladd Conrad:As a condition of anything we dohave somebody look at that right?
area has notjust nade thebe improved.
been ident ifi ed
recommendat ion
point ofasa
that
there, we couldpotentla11v
Barbara Dacy :We could look at that yes.
Ladd Conrad:I think th epr
seems large, Ito nry knowledgthere. As I 1a problem rri tharea regardlesthink I would
At the last meeting I was concerned with traffic.oposal that I see, even though the traffic countthink the extra turn lane improves the situatione. I have a problem with the new road that goes inooked at it and driven through the area. I do havethe commercial area backing up to the commercials of the trees that are put in there. I don'twant to live there, those people have lived there
Parbari Dacy: That is on the Shorewood side, I don't know whenrnat shopplng center went in, what type of recommendations weremade, if MnDoT did those improvementi- or the aeveropei-i"i [rr"shopping center. f canrt aiswer that question.
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l4ay 22,
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1985
and I don't know that it is a good buffer and it concerns me agreat dea1. I don't have a problem with the commercial use tothe eastside of the new road.. I think to the east of the roadcommercial is an appropriate use of the property; however, Ithink C-1 should be in that area. I do have some reaL concernswith commercial office buildings, even though they are reallygood neighbors. They might be better neighbors than residenlialmultiple family dwellings that rrould probably go in there.
Jim Thompson: My major concern is the creeping commercialismalong that section of the highway. I would not like to see anarea spot ileveloped there and the next thing it spot developed at15 and 7. Pretty soon you have the fi11in9 in. I think theimprovement with the left turn lane into a residential develop-ment as proposed would be better than the existing Orioleturnoff. I think it would improve the safety in that area. Ir"/ould rather have this entire portion remain as residential witha turnoff on 64th serving that area and a cul-de-sac type of anarrangement so that the number of trips per day would be modest.I think the entire safety question of increased traffic into thepark area over the next couple of years as it increases, it goingto be a problem and something has to be done in that respect.Overall I think it should remain residential and if anything theturnoff should be moved. to the east to improve the safety for theresidents of Oriole and that area.
Iom Merz: Someday this property will be deveJ_oped. It will pro-bably high density residential or a low density commercial.
Someday it is going to be deveLoped. If I were a neighbor, as IIook at these people, and would have to look across the road andlook into a convenience store and its 24 hours of light and theamount of traffic that is generated into this property, to methat would be very objectionaL. For these people thal live thereand have another 3,000 to 4,000 cars a day from 7 and 4l withoutproper semiphores. A 600 foot lane or even a stacking lane from7 it just doesn,t seem adequate. For the developer t6 come inwith the plan for its o^rn cul-de-sac would make iense. If youtalk about coming along the back of those pieces of property andtalk about earth berms and trees on top of that so that- you-completely cut it off visually, it might make sense. Uy positionis that I am against.
Susan Albee: My feelings have not changed since the last revieh,.I still feel that the most appropriate use of the land is C-Iand C-2, Commercial and I think that there are a few minoralterations to get past the preliminary that could be very easilyworked. I see it as a very appropriate use of the properly.
BilI Ryan: The land will at some point be developed. There isgorng to be traffic. It is just a question that if we look at
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Page 15
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don ,t want cLo\. Density
Ladd Conrad:
Ladd Con rad :What if we donrt want it all commercial?
Bar ba ra Dacy : The rption that was justommercial. So what you areResidential to maintain.
passed states thatsaying is that you
you
want
What if
dens i ty
we don I t favor allresidential?favor the low commercial and we don. t
the adaptabilty of the land to fit a commercial location, ourquestion to ask ourselves is what potential is ttr"i. - i". ' tr.n-sition from. a heavy commercial to i right ""*"i.iii tJ-a-ieaiumdensity residential-to a Iight density resiaentiai,-tt " t.."_sition has to be nade. _ Good planning'says that there has to be areasonable transition from some density of con*"..iii to-ttr"residentiar that exists. rf we can't 'see the poteniiai-tJ- nnxe agood clean transition, then you start it tt. Iow density and movethe orher hray. rf yorl canrr get as rrijrr;;;"it; Ii,"i.ir.iii v""stop at light commercial . - My position on this i" ttii-i"tl *.8.9 acre will be developed "i io." point. I feel that it couldwerl suir a com.mercial lpplicarion ir in" totai-ippiii"iioi ""."light commercial- r can irot go "i""g *itt ttr"-c:il--i-l""iaaccept C-I . Just a commg{rt- that if loo ,r"r" to have high densityresidential in that partiiutar arei ii-riii-s;;";;;; IiEi Irtraffic. Thar traffic in rurn will spiIl, d"i"-is-:""-I-"J .o"npotentiar for rhose people to come ualt into y;;r-;"ifi;"iiooa .". there is with commercial .
J. Thompson moved, seconded by M. Thompson to deny the Iand UsePlan Request *e5-2 to change i,o, o"r"i[v Residential rand use toCommercial . iI. Thompson, rrl. thornlso., iid u"r, ""i.a i""i.io.,A1bee, Ryan and conrid ,".. opposEa. -
Albee moved, second.ed. by Ryan to recommend the City Council theLand Use plan Anendment Re(uest #85_2 to .t""g"-i"i il;i;;Residential to commercial use.
Y_ike Thomeso]n: If you change the land use plan to corunercial-,that means that any commercial use cou,. coire in, -i"-itr"i--'
corr ect ?
Barbara Dacy: yes.
Albee and Ryan voted-in favor. J. Thompson, Merz, Conrad and M.Thompson were opposed. Motion carried.
Bgrbara Dacy: you denied the approval for the land use planamendment, so you are denying thi apptication. -rii. iJar5i'i"""made to approve the requelt inii it iis 4 to 2 against the n.tion.In order to address the zoning, if you want a C_I or C_2 on thatparcel, the land use plan amendmenr-wou1d have-tJ i. IpirI""a tocornmercial.
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May 22, 1985
Page 16
Barbara Dacy: Then we would have to advertise for
Barbara Da
If you are saying that it should be medium or highcombination thereof, then we should start the process over
because the request all along has been from Low Density to
Commercial and if you are saying you want to consider somethingelse, we should conduct a new hearing.
BiIl Ryan:Is that necessarily t!ue, we as planners have beenlast year and a half redefining a lot of property.
: I anticipated this question and I consulted with
spending the
rh ecI
a new hearing.
density or a
if you
not been advertised for, then it would be best to go back throughthe hearing process.this piece instead.
If you are lecomnending medium density on
Bill Ryan: Here $re are with low density on this because
somebody in 1974 in a study said because we can,t make a gooddecision, Iets put it at the lightest possible utilization ofland use plan and insist that if anyone wants to use it foranything they come in and request the change. That is how it
wound up with the classification it has now.
Barbara Dacy: I am not disputing that, aII I am saying is thatif you are going to consider some other type of land use at thatsite that we start a new process.
Bill Ryan: We are in a position where we have denied thefor land use modification, so that cancelsunderlying applicationparts b. and c.
Susan Albee: It would be
ty attorney and he advised me that it is always best thatare going to recommend a change to something else that has
as a split vote. I don'twe could agree upon.
my recommendation tothink another mot i on
Tom Merz: I think we are real1y talking about
Ladd Conrad:
send it to Counci Icould be made that
NOI
how
donrt
hish,
think so, the issue isjust commercial.
that C-2.
commercial .It
d oesn ' t matler
Susan Albee:Council with a
Mike Thom
Barbara Daca part of the
comrnercial?
son: Whether we do or not it is sti11 in the minutes.
Does anyone have an objection ofsplit vote?
sending this to
Is it the Commission,s feeling that they onl8 acre parcel or is it they donrt $rant any of
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Page 17
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1985
Ladd Conrad: One Commissioner's opinion is that it has got to besplit.
Bill Ryan:I think you would get a split vote on that.
Tom Merz: What about voting on the C-2 only?
and I don't know if there is any lyay to put in a good trafficflow. I think you would have alot of people coming from the westand using the new street as a thoroughfare to get from 7 to 41even though it is not the best way. I think you would have fasttraffic going through an area that is not reasonable to use it.
Jim Thompson:I guess my feeling is that the traffic problem ispinpoint of the r,rhole thing. It is not resolvedstill much the
Ladd Conrad:Lets go back to my concerns. I am not comfortableyet with the buffering of the lower houses. That is my biggestconcern. I am comfortable that traffic can be resolved in a C-Iand I am not comfortable that !,re buffered to the southwest,therefore, that is why I didntt vote for nraking the whole area ascommercial. I feef part of it is appropriate for commercial , notall of it.
Barbar a Dacy:Are you that you would like to makeas corunercial and see howa motion tothat f1i es?
trying to saya part of itredes ignate
Ladd Conrad: Potentially that would be a motion. I don,thow I could do that and make it definite because there are
boundar i es .
Barbara Dac If you are going to be considering part of it ascommercial , then that would say you would then go on to the nextrequesL and. rezone it to something. You would act on some typeof zoning on that recommended comrnercial piece. Theo you wouldgo on the preliminary p1at, I would think that the traffic designr.rould then be considered on the plat discussion and your re com-fortable $rith the traffic situation as proposed. Some other com-missioners may not, but if you are going to act on a portion ofthe propertyr you are going to go through the other tr.ro requests.You could refer to the plat.
I,add Conrad: I think it is wise that
know
no
reasons.we send it on and state our
Mike Thompson: I would consider talking about that. Then wecould talk about how we feel about it, like is .rnyone opposed tothe C-2 zoning, it is for me. I think just talking about buf-fering this thing other than with conmercial makes sense too andI don't think they resolved the traffic problems.
Planning Commission Minutes
May 22, 1985
Page I8
Susan Albee: If I might askwould you both be comfortable
and taking it to Council fromfigure out some other type of
Rick Sathre:I think you havethere is no clear decision invery Iogical .
Todd Thom son:
Lne.I would b
the l4r. Thompson and Mr. Sathre,sending it as a split vote decisionthis point, as opposed to trying toa different classification.
given it alot of discussion and ifyour minds, I think it is probably
a tie vote, that ispublic hearing tonightor a combination of C-I
republ i sh .
land use
the original motion, I
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If you want to send it ase willing to open anotherto talk about zoning the whole thing C-land high dens ity.
Mike Thompson:We canrt open it tonight we have to
Barbar a Dacv :The original motion was to deny thelow density residential to commeicial.request from
BilI Ryan:
Barbar a Dacv :
We reconmend that we coul_d not recommend changing it.
There were two motions made and acted on that thethose two motions and if you want to add anythingyour concerns we will make that part of the
minuteGelse as
record.
ref lectfar as
Ladd Conrad:would like to
Susan Albee:
For those who voted againsthave the reasons stated.
Against the denial? I feel the mostof the property is as it is being presented as
Conrad:
on partpart.
Bill R an:
some commercsighL protec
On the seconshould be cointersection
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
use
Laddcial
ot her
Conrad moved, secondedminutes- A1l voted in
appropr iate
C-l- and C-2.
My comments are that the appropriate use isof the parcel and higher density residential commer -on the
1985
My conunents echo the other two. The property hasial application rdith proper buffering, bermiig andtions it could be used as C-1 commer6ial but iot C_2.d motion the reasons erere that they did not feel itmmercial and because of the traffii control in the. Our decision I guess was a tie vote.
ZON I NG ORD INAN CE
Ihe Corunissioners decided to meet on Junemeeting on the proposed Zoning Ordinance.
Meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
by Albee to approve the April 24,favor and the motion carried.
5, 1985 for a special
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D(CITY OF P.C. DATE: March 16, 1988
C.C. DATE: ApriI 11, 1988
CASE NO: 87-2 SUB
88-4 wAP
Prepared by: Olsen/v
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South of County Road 14, approximately i mile eastof Hr,vy. 101, directly south of Lake Riley Woods Nor
PROPOSAL:
Development Within
LOCATION:
APPLICANT:
for 16 Family Single Lots on ?7Prelininary Plat
Acres
Wetland Alteration Permit for
200 Feet of a Class B Wetland
PRESENT ZONING:
ACREAGE:
DENS ITY :
ADJACENT ZONING
AND LAND USE:
WATER AND SEhIER:
PEYSICAI, CEARAC.:
2OOO LAND USE PLAN:
A-2 , Agricultural Estates
77 acres (gross) and 73 acres (net)
4.6 acres per unit
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A-2;
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A-2i
Lake Riley Woods Estates
Railroad track and vacant
Great Plains Golf Estates sub.
single family residence
Not available to the site.
The northerly portion of thecultivated and the southerlythe site is a steep ravine.
Agr iculture
siEe isportion of
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The application will be reviewed under the old ordinance regula-tions since it the application was mad.e by the January lS, igg7,deadline. The applicant has received two extensions irom theCity Council to the Ju1y, 1987, cleadline for preliminary platapproval . The most recent deadline for the applicant i- ,ruly,1988. Therefore, the requirements for this sirLdivision is 2iacres per 1ot hrith 180 feet of street frontage.
Each lot must provide two approved septic system sites and haveat least one acre of buildable area, meaning 25t of less s1ope.
Section 5.05 (5)(a) of the previous Zoning Ordinanceminimum lot area of 2.5 acres in the R-la District.
Lake Riley Woods South
March 16, 1988
Page 2
APPLICABLE REGUTATIONS
Carver County
Building Department
Fire Inspector
Engineering
The Shoreland Ordinance requires unsewered lotsof 40,000 square feet, a 1ot width of I50 feet,back of 100 feet and a sanitary seerer setback of
Attachment *
Attachment I
Attachment *
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requires a
to have a minimuma building set-
75 feet.
acres ofis
of the
contains a
B r.reEland
The wetland Ordinance requires a 75 foot setback from the ordi-nary high water mark for a structure and a I50 foot setback forset age treatment systems .
REFERRAL AGENCIES
B ACKGROUND
ANALYS I S
The applicant is proposing 16 single family lots on 77property zoned A-2, Agricultural Estates. The propertylocated south of county Road 14. The northerfy poitionsite is currently cultivated and the southerly portionsteep heavily vegetated ravine. There is a small Classlocated in the westerly portion of Lot 2, Block 1.
The application for the Lake Riley Woods South subdivision wassubmitted by the required deadline of January 15, 1997, so thatit would be regulated under the old rural reguirements. The CityCouncil extended the deadline of JuIy, 1987, for preliminary plaiapproval until July, 1988 (Attachment #6)
Lake RiJ.ey woods south
March 16, 1988
Page 3
Lot Layout
The 16 lots are located along an internal cul-de-sac from CounLy
Road 14. Two of the lots are double frontage lots between County
Road 14 and the internal street (Lots l and 2). The majority of
the lots are located adjacent to the steep ravine to the south'
The applicant has provided on the preliminary plat the total
acreage for each lot ( the acreage of Ehe 1ot removing the
unbuildable acreage [258 slope or lessl). AII the lots contain
at least one acre of buildable area for the house, septic
systems and r{ell.
The tree line of the site is sho!,rn on the preliminary plat and
the lots are situated so that none of the vegetation will have
be removed as a result of Ehe construction of the street.
Certain house pads may remove a smal1 amount of the existing
vegetation. Since a large amount of Erees will not be removed
pait of the improvements to the site, staff is not recommending
tree removal plan be provided.
to
as
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Se tic S s tems
Typically, staff iloes not permit review of the preliminary plat
until the city soil consultants have reviewed the soil borings
and have approved all of the lots as having tswo septic sites.
The appticant wished to pursue the application at this time
rathei than having to wait until the sprinq tha', for the soil
borings to be taken. Once the soil borings htere approved in the
spring, they could move ahead aith the project-
The applicant contacted Jim Anderson, city soil consultants, to
determine whether or not preriminary prat revier^/ be initiated
with approval conditioned upon final approval of the soil borings
and two septic sites per 1ot. Drs. Machmeier and Anderson have
visitetl Ehe site wit,h the applicant during the last year and
deterrnineal that there was adeguatse area for the two septic sites.
Dr. Anderson rrras confident that from their experience with the
soils in that area, site visits and with the large amount of
buildabte acreage on each Lot, thaE it would not be difficult to
locate two septic sites per lot. with Ehis lluarantee, staff has
agreed to initiate the preliminary plat approval .
The applicant has shown the approximate location of tt'ro septic
sites ior each Iot. The applicant has located the sites such
that there is adequate area for construction traffic to pass by
the septic sites Eo the proposed house pad. Staff will be con-
ditioning the approval of the preliminary plat upon submittal of
the soil borings and acceptance of two septic sites per lot by
the city's soil consuLtants.
Lake Riley
March I6,
Page 4
Woods South
1988
The proposed preliminary plat meets the requirements ovious Zoning Ordinance with each lot have it least 2lI80 feet of street frontage, contingent upon each siteacceptable septic sites.
Streets and Gradinq and Drainaqe
In the attached memo, theconstruction, grading andfuture street connections
RECOMMENDAT I ON
Planning staff recommends thefollowing motion:
1. Soil borings are submittedthe consultants approve twofinal plat approval .
City Engineer addresses streetdrainage in detail and also addressesfrom the subject site.
f the pre-
acres and
::aving two
Planning Commission adoDt the
nThe. Planning Commission recommends approval. ofas shown 9l t!. plat stamped "Receivei Januaryto the following conditions:
Subdivision *87-225, 1988', subject
soil consultants andsites per Iot prior to
wi th
to
to the city
a ccep t.ab 1e
2 The developer sha1l enter into a development contractthe City and provide the necessary finaircial suretiesguarantee the proper inst.allation of these publictmprovements.
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The developer shall obtain andthe Watershed District permit.comply with af1 conditions of
A- revised plan showing the changesalignment, as discussed previouilysubmitted for approval by the Citlrfinal planning review process.
in the horizontal roadway '
in this report, shal1 beEngineer as part of the
5 An L8-inch minimum diameter curvert sha11 be installed under-neath the proposed access onto pioneer Trail, CSAH ia. -'---
The proposed road file shall include a 0.5tmum distance of 50 feet prior to the access
Wood fiber blanket or equivalent shalI oedisturbed slopes greater than 3:1.
The typical ruraL roadway section3-inch bituminous wear course asrural construction . "
utilized on all
shal1 be revised to aper the City standards for
grade for a mini-onto Pioneer TraiI.
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Lake Riley Woods South
March 15, 1988
Page 5
WETLAND ALTERATION PERMIT
The Class B wetland is located in the western half of LoE 2,
Block 1. It is not designated as a Class B wetland on the City's
Wetland Map but upon site visitation it was discovered that it
was a l-ow area of the sj.te with predominately canary grass
vegetation. The wetland will not be negatively impacted by
development wi,thin 200 feet. The area of Lot 2 provides enough
area for the house and septic systems to meet the 150 and 75 foot
setbacks from the wetland and the applicant is providing erosion
control to Ehe south of the i.retland to protect iE during
construction of the street.
R ECOMMENDAT I ON
Planning staff recommends the Planning Commission adopt
following motion:
"The Planning Commission reconmends approval of wetland
Alteration Permit #88-4 for development within 200 feet
Class B wetland subject to the folJ-owing conditions:
The struclure on Lot 2, Block l, must maintain a
back from the edge of the wetland and the septic
maintain a I50 foot setback from the edge of the
I. No construction traffic hriIl be permitced beyond the erosion
control fence to the south of the wetland.
the
of a
75 foot set-
system must
wetland. "
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ATTACHME NTS
Letter from Carver County dated March l, 1988.
Memo from Building Departnent dated March 2, I988.
Memo from Fire Inspector dated March 1, 1988.
llerno from Park and Recreation Coordinator dated March 10, 1988-
llemo from City Engineer dated March I0, 1988.
City Council minutes dated January I1, I988.
Appl ication.
Preliminary plat dated January 25, 1988.
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PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT
( 612) 448- 3435
CARVER COUNTY COUBTHOUSE
600 EAST 4TH STREET
CHASKA, MINN€SOTA 55318
COUNTY OT CABVTP
March 1 1988
Ms. JoAnn OlsenCity of Chanhassen
690 Cou'l ter Drr veP. O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 5531 7
Dear Ms. Oi sen:
We have reviewed rhe.lnforma!ionsubmit the fol iowrng comments:
regardi ng thts subdlvision and
Carver county has had prevtous
concern'i n-q thr s orooosal . Wewhich is acceptab le.
dr scussi ons wi th Mr. Geor_qe Nel sonhave cliscusseci ihe access location
We would request the opportunity toplans before approval .
rev r ew the final construction
Thank-you for the opportuni ty to submit our commenrs.
Si ncerel y,
6rZ t /+ /t c/ t-..>t <z -.,2-'
WiIlram J
Ass i stant
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Weckman P. E.
County Engtneer
t1 l'lAR J 1988
UIIY UF CHAN}rA5SLN
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RE: Plannlng Case 87-2 Subdivision
Lake Riley woods South
CITY OF
EHINHISSEN
690 COULTER ORIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
14EMORANDUM
TO:
FROM:
Jo Ann Olsen, Asst. City Planner
Building Department
DATE: March 2, 1988
SUBJ: Lake Riley Woods South, #87-2 Subdivision
The proposal for this subdivision was reviewed as reguested. It
should be noLed that Lots 6 and 14 are at or near the maximumslope allowed fcr sewage treatment mounds. If mounds are
necessary in this subdivision, these lots should be closely scru-tinized to determine if they are buildable.
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CITY OF
EHINH[SSEI[
690 COULTEB DRIVE . P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
ME14O
T0: JoAnn 0lsen, Csst. City Planner
FR0M: Steve Madden, Fire Inspector
DATE: March 1, 1988Subject: Lake Riley l.Ioods (87-2 Sub-division)
Upon rev i ewI have them
code.
of
to
the si te pl an for Lake Ri 1ey,
be i n compl a i nce wi th the fi re
c.c Scott Harr
Jim Chaf f ee
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MEMORANDUM
TO:
FROM:
DATE :
RE!:
J oAnn
Lori
March
Park
S outh
Olsen, Assistant City Planner
Sietsema, Park and Recreation Cooralinato
r0, 1988
and Recreation Commission Action on Lake
690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(512) 9s7-1900
CITY OF
EHINHISSEN
b.^
Riley Woods
The Park and Recreation Commission reviewed the site plan for
Lake Riley Woods South at their last meeting. This area was also
reviewed -last year by the Commission for potential parkland and
it vras cietermined that it was not centrally located enough to
serve as a communitY park.
The trail plan identifies trail alignment along Pioneer Trail,
which will be located on the north side of tshe road due to dif-
ficulties -dithin the Riley Lake Meadows development. Therefore,
it does not affect Lhis development.
The Commission ivas concerned with the length of the cul-de-sac
and discussed tshe possibility of it becoming a through street'
If such would happen, it would have an affect on their trail
recommendation, as they rvould noE recommend a trail along a cuI-
de-sac but would on a through street.
It is the recommendation of the Park and Recreation Commission to
accept park and trail dedication fees in lieu of parkland and
traii construction. They have requested to review this proposal
again if changes are made in the road design.
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CITY OF
EHINHISSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN. MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO: Planning Cornmi s s ion
FROM: Larry Brown, Asst. City Engineer
#.DATE: l,larch 9, 1988
SUBJ: Preliminary Plat Review for Lake Riley Woods SouthPlanning File No. 87-22 Sub.
George Nelson Associates, Inc.
Attached are the plans for Lake Riley Woods South dated ,'Received
January 25, 1988". This 15 lot subdivision is 1ocated on thesouth side of Pioneer Trail, County State Aid Highway 14,approximately one-hali of a rnile east of Trunk Highwiy 10I. Thesite is composed. of a rolling cultivated farm field with a ravinealong the southern and westerly property boundaries.
Sanitary Sewer
This l6 lot subdivision is outside of the Metropolitan UrbanService Area (MUSA). Therefore, on-site septic treatment systemswill be used. A11 proposed septic system sites should be slakedand roped off prior to the commencement of any construction.
Water Service
Municipalwill have
water service is not availableto develop on-site sources for to E.he site.
water.
Each lot
Roadway
The applicant has provided a 6o-foot right-of-way which is inaccordance to the City standards for rural construction. The
rnaximum proposed street grade is approximately 5.0t as comparedto the Cityrs recommended standard of 7.0t.
It is recommended that the proposed roadway alignment adjacent tolots 12, 13 and 14 be revised to show a straight, horizontalalignment and the not the reverse curve as shorrn. Reverse curvesdo not provide sufficient time between two curves for a driver toperceive and anticipate a reversal in horizontal alignment andtherefore should be avoided where practical. The applicant's *1,-_1D
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Planning
March 9,
Page 2
commi s s ion
r988
engineer has been advised of this recommendatsion and has agreed
to revise the roadway alignment prior to final platting review
processes.
The typical section for rural roadways as shown on the plans
shall be revised to a 3i-inch bituminous wear course and a
10-inch CIass v base in accordance $ritht the City standards for
rural roadways.
Additional access to the r./est was examined to try to eliminate the
proposed long cuJ.-de-sac. Due to the ravine along the hlest and
south sides of the site, only one alternative proposed right-of-
way was practical (refer to Attachment #2). The preliminary plat
to the west, Great Plains Golf Estates, was aPproved by the City
Council on July 6, L987. The extension of the proposed roadway
to the west would create a skewed intelsection with the current
cul-de-sac alignment. The alternative access through Great
Plains Golf Estates would eliminate one lot. Due to the density
and hazards of a skewed intersection, it is recomrnended that the
right-of-way remain as shown on tshe planset dated January 7,
1988.
If, however, the Planning Commission wishes to pursue this alter-
native access, the proposeal plat should be revised to form a "T"
intersection with the alternate access.
Grad!49
The majority of the proposed grading is limited
right-of-way with the roadway side slopes being
outs iile of the roadwaY.
to the proposed
constructed just
Drainage and Erosion Con trol
A culvert with a minimum diameter of 18 inches shall be installed
under the access onto CSAH 14. The erosion conErol along the
south side of Lot 2, Block 1, sha1l be Type II erosion control
(staked hay bales and snorrt fence). The plan shal1 be revised to
include the City's standard detail for Type II erosion control.
Recommended Conditions
t-The developer sha11 enter into a development contract r,vith
the City and provide the necessary financial sureties to
guarantee the proper installation of these public
improvements.
The developer shal1 obtain and comply with all conditions of
the watershed District Permit.
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Planning
March 9,
Page 3
Cornmi s s ion
1988
3 A revised plan showing the changes in the horizontal roadwayalignrnsng, as discussed previously in this report, shall besubmitted for approval by the City Engi.neer a! part of thefinal planning review process.
An 18-inch minimum diameter culvert shalI be installed under-neath the proposed access onto pioneer Trai1, CSAH 14.
The proposed road file shal1 include a 0.5$ grade for a mini-
mum distance of 50 feet prior to the access onto pioneer Trail.
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Wood fiber blanket or equivalent sha1l be utilized on alldisturbed slopes greater than 3:1.
The typical rural roadway section shall be revised to a3-inch bituminous wear course as per the City standards forrural construction.
Attachments:Location MapLetter from Carver County
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PUBLIC WORKS OEPARTM ENT
(612) 448-3435
CARVER COUNTY COURTHOUSE
600 EAST 4TH STN EET
CHASKA, MINNESOTA 55318
COUNTY OT CABVTP
March I 1988
Ms. JoAnn Ol senCity of Chanhassen
690 Coulter DriveP. O. Box 147
Chanhassen, MN 55317
RE: Planning Case 87-2 Subdivisron
Lake Ri Iey Woods South
Dear Ms. Ol sen:
l,'Je have reviewed the informat.lonsubmit the fol Iowrng commenr,s:
regardi ng this subdivision and
l,{e would request the opportunity to review the finai constructionplans before aporoval .
Thank-you for the opporlunity to submit our commenrs.
Sincerely,
dzt /rizc/.,-ro-,.-,
William J. Weckman p.E.
Assistant County Engi neer
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Carver County has had previous discussions with Mr. George Nelsonconcerning thrs prooosal. We have discusseo lhe access locationwhich is acceptab'l e.
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Alltmotioe Actbnt Equol Ofrortunity Emplopr
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courci lrnan ceving moved, counci r.man Horn seconded to deny the request for thestreet name change by BiIl Streep[, ard leave the street name as S-innen Circlewith the stipuration that ciry staff contact the Rotttund company, make sure
_T:I-:i!y *?f ".9 :h?.,99 accordingry ard thar pr:blic safety 6i,r"-.Lnotrtled. AII voted in favor and motion carried.
City Courci I t4eeting - January 11, I98g
CONSIDERATION OF PIAT A PPRC'\NL E(TENSION FOR RURAL ST,BDIVISION:
SEVER PETERSON AND GILBERT TAURENT
ROBERT BURESH
TAKE RILEY WOODS SOUTH
ACEEPT PI,ANNING COMMISSION RESIGNATIONS AND APPOINT NE1I MEI",BERS -
A.
B-'.
Courci lman Horn moved, l,fayor Hamilton secorrled to approve plat approvalextension for rurar subdivision for sever peterson in: cirLrt Go..nl, no*.tB:resh ard Lake Riley l^Icods south. All voted in favor and rotion ".rii"a.
ACCEPT STORMI,IATER i"AI\AGETENT ptAN
Courci lman Geving moved, Mayor Hamilton secorxled to accept the StormwaterMarEgement plan prelEred- by Barr ergineering Company dated Septembei, -iSeZ ..dq?! . ihi: pJ.an be adopted Js a guidle to deat-ing ,itfi "tor.riiE.
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r4rithin the study area. at1 voied in favor
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Councilman Geving moved, Councilman Johnson secorried to acrept theresignations of Robert siegel arx3 Hovrard ldoziska from the erinning commissionard to serd them a certificate of Appreciation. A1r voted in fav6r ard motioncarried.
Counci lman Boyt: I think it should be more than a Certificate ofAppreciation. r think it shourd be sqne sort of a praqr:e or sonething.
courci rrnan Geving: r don't laow about that Bill. Nct for ccnmission nErnbers.
CouncikEn Boyt: They donate a lot of time.
Mayor Hamilton: Itrs something t+t in the EEst we have arways given lettersof alprecj ation. It doesn't mean it has to itay that $,ay.
Counci lman Boyt: ft seems -to me that a ptaque is reasonabJ-y inexpensive.rtrs. sornething a [Erson might be more incrined to put on tneir wait. that,smy thought.
Mayor tlamilton: I think tlEt's something t]1at lre need to have Toddinvestigate possibry to loo.k into- somethirg rike that. a praqre-ird perhapscome back to us with some trGE of information wri tten on il ult ,".'ouia r*rat ard see if it rcurd be a starrlard thirg for arr of our conrnissions. --I-
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CITT OP CEANEASSEN
690 Coulter DriveChauhassen, MN 55312(612) 937-1900
APPLICANT: George Nelson Associates,Inomten: Verne Gagne
ADDRESS. 1660 So. Irwy 100 - Suite 428 ADDRESS 10001 Wayzata Blvd.
l.timeapolis, MN 55416 !.layzata, l,N 55343
zip codeTELEPHONE (Daytime) 542-8474'
REQIJEST:
Zoning District Change
Zoning Appeal
Zoning Variance
Zoning Text Anendnent
f,and Use plari Arnendraent
x Conditional Use permit
Site plan Review
Planned: UnLt Developmenr
PROJECT NAi4E Iake Riley t{oods 9r.rrr
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Subdi vi s ion
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Street,/Easement Vacation
wetlands permit
PRESENT r.AND USE PLAN DESTGNA?roN Agriclttr:ral
SAIIE
PRESENT ZONING RT A iclrltural
REQTJESTED ZONI}TG SAJTE
USES PROPOSED - _LrIq 'l e f:":'i-lv hr:'ES
SIZE OF PROPERTY s
LOCATION Hiqhway 101 and Pioneer ltail
LEGAL DESCRIPTION (Attach 1e9a1 if necessary)
1ELEpHONE 545-2822
REQT'ESTED LAND USE PLAN DESTGNATTON
REASONS EOR THIS I{EQT'EST
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ApriI II, 1988
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PROPOSAL: 1. Rezoning of 3 acres of RSF to R-4
Preliminary Plat to subdivide 4.7acres of RSF into 12 single family lots and3 acres of R-4 into 4 double lots.
Wetland Alteration Permit for development wit.hin200 feet of a Class B wetland.
Northwest corner of Church Roail and State Hwy 7
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LOCATION:
APPLICAN,I:Gary Carlson
3831 West 62nd St-
PRESENT ZONING:
ACREAGE:
DBNSITY:
RSF, Residential Single Family
8.6 acres
2.58 units per acre, (net for RSF Dist.)
& 2.69 units per acre (net for the R-4 Di
RSF; City of Shorewood Park
RSF; Chanhassen Fire Station
RSF; single f amil-y
RSF, Vacant Wetlands
Available to the property.
This site is fairly level with a wetlandlocated off site to the southwest.
Residential Low Dens i ty
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Section 5-5-5 of the Zoning Ordinance for the RSF Districtreguires a minimum lot area of 15,000 square feet, a ninimumfrontage of 90 feet and a lot ilepth of 125 feet. (Attachment
REFERRAL AGENCIES
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Section 5-6-5 of the Zoning Ordinance for the R-4 Districtrequires a lot area of 10,000 square feet per two familydwellings and a lot frontage of 50 feet per tr.ro family dwellingunits and a lot depth of l-25 feet.
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REZONING
The applicant. is proposing to rezone approximately three of nostsoutherly acres of the proposed site from RSF, Residenrial SingleFamily to R-4, Mixed Low Density Residentials (Attachment #5).The proposed rezoning includes Lots 9, 10, 11 and 16. Thesefour lots are located adjacent to Highway 7 where they areexposed to a higher amount of traffic and noise. The applicantis proposing to rezone this portion of the property to R-4 topermit twin homes to be located ad jacent tso Hlrry 7. The applicantfeels that the lots adjacant to Highway 7 are more compatibl-efor twin homes .
The Chanhassen Fire Station is located directty south of the pro-posed site and Minnewashta Creek Third Addition, which abuts
Highway 7 on the south side, is southwest of the proposed site.Minnewashta Creek Third Addition was approved as a PUD lvith tr^rin
home lots located along Itighway 7 (Attachment, S6). Therefore,the proposed rezoning to R-4 is in keeping with the surroundingproperty and r,ri11 not be a negative impact to surrounding singlefamily d.evelopments.
RECOMII,IENDAT ION
Staff feels that the lots located along Highr,vay 7 are suitablefor twin home development permitted with R-4 zoning. The propo-sal of locating tr^rin homes adjacent to Highhray 7 is similar towhat has been approved by the City in the past.
APPLICABLE REGULATIONS
PRELIMINARY PLAT
The applicant is proposing to subdivide 4.7 acres zoned RSF,
Residential Single Family, into 12 single family lots and to sub-
divide three acres of R-4, Mixed Low Density Residential into 4
twin home or two family loEs. The property is J-ocated at the
northrrrest corner of Church Road and Hlry.?, consists of Lots 3 and
4, Schmids Acres and contains three single family residences and
two sheds. The preliminary plat proposes access from Church Road
to service the lots with an internal street containing two cul-
de-sacs.
StreeE Ootions
The initial proposal , marked on the plat as Option A, provides an
internal street access from Church Road to service the lots with
t. r,ro cul-de-sacs and no future street connection to lhe property
to the west. Staff recommended that the applicant submit an
option providing future access to the property to the west.
Option B provides a temporary cul-de-sac at the $restern edge of
the propeity between Lots 5, Block l, and Lot 1, BlocP' 2, which
could be continued to the property to the west in the future if
necessary. Option B resulted in four of tshe lots (Lots 2 - 5,
Block I) having a lot area below the minimum requirement of
15,000 square feet and therefore requiring lot area variances.
In addition to tshe need for lot area variances, Option B creates
a straight street alignment, rvhich if extended west may promote
higher vehicle speeds. Staff suggested that a compromise between
opiion A and option B be submitted which would maintain the
street alignment of Meadow Lane as shown in Option A but also
provide future street connection. The applicant submitted Option'
c which provides a similar street configuration to Optj.on A and
also provides a 50 foot street easement from the end of Meadow
Court. This street pattern is more curvelinear and would be more
appropriate for residential traffic. Option C results in t.r{ro
1ots, Lots 4 and 5, Block 1, having less than the required 90
feet of 1ot width and would require lots width variances.
The following is a brief outline of the Ehree options:
Option A
The lots meet atl the Zoning ordinance requirements.
Meadow Lane alignment is curvelinear.
A future street connection is not provided.
Preferred by the applicant.
Minnewashta Meadows
March 16, 1988
Page 3
14innewashta Meadows
March 16, 1988
Page 4
Option B
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Eour lots require lot area variances ( 13,900, 14,100, 14,100,14,I00, vs. 15,000 sq. feet)
Meadow Lane is proposed in a straight alignment.
A future street connection is provided.
tion C
Two lots require lot width variances (88t, B0t wide vs 90,).
Meadow Lane is curvel inear .
A future street connection is provided,
Preferred by staff.
Attachment f7 shows the area around the subdivision. The cart-way services lots to tshe west, but is not a public street. Thereis an area directly to the rrest of the subject site that could bedeveloped. This area to the west will have to depend on accessfrom the cartr,ray or from the subject property. A wetland andcreek separates the property from Hwy. 7 and the property to thewest (Pipe\^rood Curve). Therefore, a future street connectionfrom the subject property should be proviiled to permit improve-ments to the cartway properties and the vacant land to the westof the subject site. If Option C is approved and the street con-nection is improved then Lots 4 and 5 could have the required 90feet of street frontage (Attachment *8). Until the street isimproved, Lots 4 and 5 wilL be under the 90 foot requiremen! by 2feet and I0 feet.
Staff believes that resubdivision of the property to the $rest canoccur in the near future. Option C provides for what staffbelieves will be the ultimate street pattern in this area.Achieving access to the property on the west via the existing
carthray from 62nd Street would requirement improvements to be
made for the already existing homeowners along the cartway(similar to Teton Lane issue). While it is agreed that the cart-
way should be improved in the future, Optsion C provides a solu-tion for the "other way out" and the ultimate street pattern inthis area. Given t.hese facts, granting Lhe trro lot width varian-ces is justified. If the street is extended, both lots
would have the required amount of lot frontage. In effect., thevariances could be vieweil as rrtemporary", but nonetheless varian-ces must be granted. AttachmenE #9 are the findings required forvariances in the Subdivision Ordinance. Staff feels that thehardship is not a "mere inconveniencen and unigue circumstancesexist to grant the variance.
Minnewashta Meadows
March 15, 1988
Page 5
Park and Recreati on Commiss ion
S treet ,Utilities, Gradin q and Drainaqe
The Park and Recreation Commission recomrnenaled that a 2O foottrair easement.be provided along the west side or cnurctr noaacontinue a trail easement from frinnewaihta earkway. parf anatrail dedication fees will also be required tattacnmeni *fii-
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Tlrg-91!V Engineerrs memorand.um, AttachnenE *2, addresses streets,utilities, grading and drainage.
RECOMMENDATION
Planning staff recommends the planning Commission adopt thefollowing motion:
"The^Planning Commission recommends approval of Subdivisiont.,.,-2, as shown on the preliminary plat stamped trReceived March3, 1988 (Option C)", and srreet aid-.rtitity i1""" i"-"nJi.,'-In tt.plans stamped "Received February 22, L9BB, ai,J ""Oj""t-'i""ti"following condi tions :
1. Lots 4 and 5, Brock r, sha11 receive a rot eridth variance.
2. The t hro sheds on Lot 14, Block l and the street right_of_wayand the smalI one story single family residence "n-iot-is,Block 1, shall be removed p;ior to conplet.ion ot siie- -
improvements (i.e., street construction and installation of
Should-the city feel the variances are not justified, then onelot will have to be removed. In either case, staff recommendsOption C.
Lot Layout
The proposed RSF lots. (except those impacted by street Options Band C), meet the requirement.s of the Zoning Or&inance. -it"'n_a
lots meet the requirements of the R-4 District. The plat pro-poses a berm and landscaping as a buffer bet.ween it," i.ii i".a"and Hwy. 7. The net denliEi for the RSF lots is 2.58 onitl-p",acre and the net density for the R-4 rots is z.og-unit"-'p"i ."...Both densities are within rhe residential Iow d;;"ii;-;.;ii."r"nt".
There are three single family residences on the site anC twosheds. Two homes are on Lot 4 of Schmidrs Acres ana one is-located on Lot 3, Schmid's Acres (Attachment *10). tfre-tromesexisted prior to Lhe adoption of the Zoning oiai"in""l- r["-appricant is proposing to preserve the larfe home on Lot ii anathe home on tot 13. - The.remaining home on Lot 15 and two shedswill be removed at the time of si€e imlrovements (street andutilities). AtI of rhe debris from thl demolition ;i-a;"-"-buildings must be removed from the site.
Minnewashta Meadovrs
March 16, 1988
Page 6
3 A 20 foot trail easement shall be provided along the westside of Church Road and park and trail dedication feesshall be required.
The applicant shaLl enter into a development contract withthe City and provide the necessary financial sureties as partof this agreement for completion of the improvements.
A11 utility improvements shall conform to the City standardsfor urban construction.
utilities ) . The
shall be removed
The applicant shal1 obtain andrequired by t.he DNR, Watershedtory agencies.
demolition debris from the home and shedfrom the site.
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comply with all conditionsDistrict and any other regula-
A gate valve shal1 beas in accordance wi thtion.
Iocated three feet behind each hydrantthe Cityrs detail for hydrant construc-
A11 demolition debris sha1l
disposed of properly.be removed, trucked off site and
A11 erosion control measures shafl be in place prior to theinitiation of any grading and once in place they shall remainin place throughout the duration of constrrrction. The deve-loper is required to review erosion control and make thenecessary repairs prompt.ly. A11 erosion control measures
sha11 remain intact unE.i1 an established vegetative cover hasbeen produced at which time removal should be the respon-sibility of the developer.
I0. Wood fiber blankets or equivalent shal1 be used on all slopesgreater than 3 to 1.
11. The proper utility and drainage easements shall be providedfor the proposed retention/sedimentation basin located at thesouth of Lots 9 and 10 of Block I prior to final plat appro-va1 review process.
12. The sanitary seerer along Church Road shall be insEalled at a
deep enough level to be able to provide gravity service tothe Frizzell and Kerber property.
13. Construction of sanitary sewer along Church Road shalI takeall necessary precautions to protect existing City utility
and roadway improvements.
Minne$rashta Meadows
March 16, 1988
Page 7
WETLAND ALTERATION PERMTT
The applicant is requesting a wetland alteration permit fordevelopment within 200 feet of a Class B wetland. There is aCIass B wetland located southwest of the subject property(Attachment #12). The Class B wetland consists primarily ofcanary grass and does not serve as an important habitat refuge(Attachment f 13 ) . The Class B r,retland has a smal.L creek thatruns through it. The proposal will not result in any directalteration to the CIass B wetland.
The applicant is providing a storage pond in the southr^rest cornerof Lot 10, Block 1, which will contain drainage from the site atthe predevelopment rate. Any drainage from the storage pond tothe C1ass B hretland will be contained in the storage pond whereit promotes settlement of suspended partictes. a bafiled outletstructure will control the discharge of oi1 and other floatingmaterial from entering the CIass B wetland.
By providing the storage pond, the applicant is preserving thewetland by not permitting any direct runoff from the site to thewetland. The applicant is also providing Type 2 erosion controlto further proEect the wet]-and during the development of the sit.ealong with the establishment of the berm and landscaping on Lots9 and 10. The approximate Iocation of the wetland as shown onpage 1of the preliminary plat shows that. any structures on LotsI and 9, Block 1, wiII be outside of the 75 foot setback.
RECOMMENDATI ON
Staff feels that the Class B wetland southwest of the subjectproperty wiIl not be negatively impacted by the development andwill not be physically altered.
Planning staff recommends the planning Commission adopt thefollowing motion:
"The Planning Commission recommend sAlteration Permit #88-3 as shown onplat stamped "Recei.ved February 22,following condition:
There shall be no construction activity beyond the erosioncontrol fence adjacent Eo the Class B wet.1and.',
A?TACHMENTS
Section 5-5-5 and 5-6-5 of the Zoning Ordinance.
Memo from City Engineer dat.ed March I0, I9BB.
Memo from Building Department dated Uarch 2, LgBa
Meno from Public Safety dated March L, I9gg.
approval of wetland
page I of the preliminary
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March 16, 1988
Page 8
Attachments ( continued )
Map showing areas of rezoning (3 acres).
Map of MinnelrrashEa Creek Third Addition twin homes.
Map showing area surrounding proposed subdivision.Lots 4 and 5 with Meadow Court extended.Excerpt from Subdivision Ordinance.Existing homes and l-ots.
llemo from Park and Recreation dated March 10, 1988.Aeria] with hretland.
Wetland description.
DNR response.
Appl icat ion .
Option A, preliminary
Option B, preliminary
Option C, preliminary
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2. Lot Frontage: 2Oo feet (except that lots fronting oncul-de-sac shall be 2OO feet in width at the buildin,setback I j-ne) .
3. Lot Depth: 2OO feet.
4. Maximum Lot Coverage: 2OZ.
5. Setbacks:
A. Front yard: 50 feet.
B. Rear yard: 50 feet.
C. Side yard: 10 feet.
6. Maximum Height:
A. Principal Structure: three stories/4o feet.
B. Accessory structure: three stories/40 feet.
7. Minimun Driveway Separation:
A. Collector: 400 feet
B. Arterial: 1,250 feet
5. "RSFZ SINGLE-FAMILY RESTDENTIAL DISTRICT
Intent. Single-farnily residential subdivisions.
The folLowing uses are perrnitted in an ,,RSF,, district:
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SECTION
5-5-1
5-5-2
5-5-3
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5.
6.
Sinqle-family dwellingsPublic and private open spaceState licensed day care center for twelve or ferverchildren
-S!1!? licensed group home serving six or fewer personsUtility services
Temporary real estate office and rnodel home
Ttle following are pernitted accessory uses in an ,,RSF,,district:
Garage
storage building
Swirnming pool
Tennis court
S igns
Hone occupations
One dockPrivate kennel
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ChurchesPrivate stables, subj ectord ]-nance
Recreational beach 1otscornmercial stable with aacres .
to provisions of the horse
rninimum lot size of five
5-5-5
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Lot Requirements and Setbacks. The following minimumrequirements shalt be observed, i"--in-iiir- District subiectto. additional requirements, exceftion.^'Ina modif icationiset forth in this Ordinance.
l-. Lot Area: 15, OOO
2. Lot Frontaqe: 90cul-de-sac sha1lsetback line).
square feet.
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f eet in r,ridth at fronting on athe building
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Lot Depth3 150 feet.
Maximurn 1ot coverage for a1lsurtaces:252.
Setbacks i
A. Front yard: 30 feet.
B. Rear yard: 30 feet.
C. Side yard: 10 feet.
Maximun Height:
structures and paved
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A. principal Structure: three stories/4o feet.
- 9: Accessory Structure: three stories/4o feet.6. ,R-4,, MrxED LoW DENSITY ni!-ionNtiii DISTRICT
fntent. Sing1e-family.and attached residential developnentat a naxinun net dens-ity or ioui";;"iii"g units per acre.
The following uses are permitted in an ,R_4,, district:
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. Single-family dwell ings
?. Two-family dwellings
?. public. and private parks and open space!. Group home serving six or r.r"l f"rlorr=5' state licensed day care center tlr iwetve or fewerch i ldren6. Utility services7. Tenporary real. estate office and. model- home
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Garage
Storage building
Swimming pool
Tennis court
S igns
Home occupations
One dock
5-6-4 The following are conditional uses in an ,R-4r, district:
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2. Lot Frontage:
Lot Requirements and Setbacks. The following minimumrequj-rements shatl be observed in .r1 "[_a" 6isa;i;a subjectto. additional requirernents, exceptj-ons and rnodificationsset forth in this Ordinance.
1. Lot Area: 15,OOO sq. ft. per detacheddwelling unit;
10,00o sq. ft. per dwellingfanily dwellings.
s ingle- family
unit for two-
80 feet for single-family dwelLing, 50
{""!-p.r dwelling unit f6r two-ramitydwellings (except that Iots fronting'ona cuL-de-sac shalL be 80 feet in widtnat the building setback lines forsrngle-family dwellings and 5O feet fortwo-family dwell ings.
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Lot Depth: 150 feet.
L1::::i_]"!^coverage for a1r structures and pavedsurraces:302.
Setbacks :
A. Front yard: 30 feet.
B. Rear yard: 30 feet.
C. Side yard: 10 feet.
Maxirnum Height:
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690 COULTEB DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN. MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
II{EI{ORANDUM
TO: Planning Commission
FROM: Larry Brown. Staff Engineer
DATE: March 10, 1988
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SUBJ: Preliminary PIat Review - Minnewashta Meadows
Planning File No. 88-2 Sub, Gary D. Carlson
This E.59 acre site is located on the northwest corner of the
intersection of State Trunk Highway 7 and Church Road. This site
is composed of an open field with three existing single family
homes and two accessory sheds. Municipal sanitary sewer is
available to the site by an existing eight inch PVC sanitary
sewer line which runs north and south along the $/est property
boundary. The plans propose that an eight inch PVC sanitary
sewer Iine be extended east to the proposed Meadow Lane and from
there to Church Road. At Church Road Lhe sewer is to be
installed along the roadway to service tots f4, 15 and 16.
The Metropolitan waste Control Commission (MWCC) is constructing
the Lake Virginia force main this year along the west side of
Church Road. As a result of negoliations wiEh the MWCC the
Commission will be restoring the existing road surface of Church
Road with a fult city standard urban section including concrete
curb and gutter.
Sanita r_y_qeere !
As you may be aware the Frizzel and Kerber properties on the
southeast side of Church Road were not in favor of sewer service
at the time the Council authorized the MWCC project. The Council
did authorize sanitary sewer service to be provided to the wanous
property and Campbell property to the north. The proposed sani-
tary sewer and water main along Church Road has been proposed
a19ng the west side of Church Road to a11ow jacking of utility
services underneath Church Road in the event that the FrizzeII
and Kerber properties require service in the future without
disturbing the new road surface.
There
which
existing 5-inch sanitary sewer and 2-inch watermain
be abandoned on this property.lsis an
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Planning Commission
March I0, 1988
Page 2
WATER MAIN
The plans propose that a six inch DIP water main be extendedthroughout the public right-of-way and be looped from Churchto the existing six inch water main which also extends alongwest property boundary.
The proposed fire hydrants should have a gate valve betweenproposed hydrant and supplying water main.
The proposed grading plan ca11s for the construction of
r etent ion/sedimentation pond on the southwest corner ofas well as construction of berms along the south side of
and minimal amounts of 1ot grading hrith construction of
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ROADWAY
The applicant has provided for a 50 foot right-of-way which is inaccordance to the City standards for urban construction. Anadditional 17 feet. of right-of-way is being provided along Church
Road to provide the City with a 50 foot right-of-way. The maxi-
mum proposed street grade is approximatei-y 2.0 percent as com-pared to the Cityrs recommended maximum grade of 7.0 percent.
The preferred plan cal1s for a 50 foot wide street easement to beprovided for future extension, if necessary, of Meadow Court tothe $res t .
GRADING
The plans adequately
control .
address both Type I and Type II of erosion
EAS EMENTS
Drainage and utility easements wiIl
sedimentat ion/retent ion base located
and 10 of Block 1.
RECOMI.,IENDED CONDITIONS
required for thettle south side of tots 9
be
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The applicant shalI enter int.o a development cont.ractthe City and provide the necessary financial suretiesof this agreement for completion of the improvements.
with
as part
The plans propose to remove both accessory shed structures along,with the single family home located at the rear of Lot 15, Bloc[1. A11 debris shall be renoved off site and disposed of pro-perly.
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AIl utility improvements shallfor urban construction.conform to Lhe City standards
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The applicant sha11 obtain andrequired by t.he DNR, Watershedtory agencies.
comply with all conditionsDistrict and any other regula-
A gate valve shall beas in accordance wi thtion.
located three feet behind each hydrantthe Cityrs detail for hydrant construc-
All demolition debris sha1l
disposed of properly.be removed, trucked off site and
Wood fiber blankets or equivalent shallgreater than 3 to 1.
be used on aII slopes
The proper utilit.y and drainage easements sha1l be providedfor the proposed retention/sedimenta t. ion basin located at. thesouth of Lots 9 and I0 of Block 1 prior to final plat appro-val reviehr process.
The sanitary sewer along Cburch Road sha1l be inst.alled at adeep enough 1evel to be able to provide gravity service Lo
Ehe Frizzell and Kerber property.
Construct.ion of sanitary sewer along Church Road sha1l takeaII necessary precautions to protect existing City utility
and roadway improvements.
Attachments: 1. Location Map
A1I erosion control measures shall be in place prior to theinitiation of any grading and once in place they shall remainin place throughout the duration of construction. The deve-loper is required to review erosion control and make thenecessary repairs prompt.ly. All erosion control measuressha11 remain intact until an established vegetative cover hasbeen produced at hrhich time removal should be the respon-sibility of the developer.
Planning Commission
March 10, 1988
Page 3
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690 COULTEH DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMORANDUM
TO:
FROM:
DATE :
SUBJ :
Barbara Dacy, City Planner
rnspections Department S Uf ,
March 2, 1988
Planning Case: 88-2 SUB, 88-1 RezoninE
8 8-3 WAP, Minnewashta Meado-vrs
It is the opinion of the Inspections Department that lots of thissize shoold show the location of the building pad on the plat.
The Lype of resiCence acceptable for each lot should be noted onthe pad and proper compacEion at each pad shoultl be verified.
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690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
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Public util j.ty Lines. AlI uti.LityelectricaL service, sha11 be placedis not feasible shall be placed incar: ied on overhead poles.
Financial Security. .prj.or to the City signj.ng the final platand Drior to the construction of any improvements, the <ievelopershal1 provide the city wj.th a letter of credit or cash escrowto insure that aLL improvements required by thj.s ordinancewill be installed anci pai.d for at no city expense.
1. For improvements to be installeC by the developer, thedeveloper is obligated to install and complete alI suchimprovements at his own expense and under the supervisionand inspection of the Ci.ty Engineer.
2. For improvements which the Citydeveloper shall pay the cost of suchpayment of special assessments.
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SECTION 1O. DEVELOPI1ENT CONTRACT
Before the City signs a final plat and before the develope. constructsany. of the required improvements set forth in section 9 of thisOrCinance, the developer shall enter into a development contract
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SECTION 11. VARIANCES
The City Council- may granr-in this Ordinance as parta findj.ng that all of the
a variance from theof the plat approvalfollowing condi tions
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sEcrroN 12. RESTRrcrroNS orr- FTLTNG AND REcoRDTNG coNVEyANcES
Except as provided in Section 1.2, no conveyances ofshall- be fiLed or recorded if the land is describedconveyance by metes and bounds or by reference to anRegistered Land Survey or to an unapproved plat. Theprovision does not apply to a conveyince if the land
1.. l^Jas a separate parcel of record on Februarythe date of adoption of subdivision regul.ations
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6: Is a single parcel of residential or agri.cultural ]andof not less than 20 acres having a wicith of not less than50O feet and its conveyance doei not result i.n the drvisionof the parcel into two o. iilore iots or parcels, arry one ofwhlch is less than 20 ac: es in a.ea o.5OO feet in r{idrh.
L2.2 Any owner or agent of the owner of land who conveys a lotor a parcel in violaEion of the provisi.ons of thj-s Section13-sharr pay the.city a penarty of not less than one HundrecDollars ($1OO.OO) for eath parcel so conveyed.. The City mayenjoi.n such conveyance or ,"y .e"or"r such penalty by civilaction.
SECTION 13. REGISTERED LAND SURVEYS
A11 reglstered lanci surveys shalI be presented tof-or1. of a prel j.minary plat in accordance with theI'n thrs Ordinance. Tracts to be used as easementsbe designated thereon.I
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690 COULTER DRIVE . P.O. BOX 147 . CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-r900
MEMORANDUM
TO.
FROM:
DATE:
RE: :
JoAnn Olsen, Assistant
Lori Sietsema, Park anil
City Planner
Recreation Coordinatorjd,March 10, 1988
Park and Recreation Commission Action on Minnewashta
!leador.rs
The Park and Recreation Commission reviewed lhe MinnewashtaMeadows site plan at t.heir last meeting. As this area is served.by Cathcart Park to the north, it was determined tha! adCitionalparkland was not needed.
alignment alongthis alignment
along Church Road,
The Comprehensive Trail plan identifies a trailMinnewashta Parkvray. The Commission felt thatshould be continued to the north of Highway 7,to provide safe access to Cathcarts park.
rt is the recommendation of the park and Recreation commission torequest a 20 foot trail easement along the west side of ChurchRoad, to accept park dedication fees in lieu of parklind, "na t"accept t.rai1 dedication fees in lieu of trail coirstruction.
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WETLAND ALTERATION PERMIT
EVALUATION WORKSHEET
size: Afilroyimat ely 2l acres, including drainage channel.
Class:
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fo Be Completeai By Applicant and Submitted with Application(Attach additional sheets if necessary)
WETLAND DESCRIPTTON:
Type :
Watershed District: Minnehaha War ershed DisErict
Area of Open Water:Non-observabl v
Drainage Flows To: Lake V 1rg inia to Lake Minne t onka
Vegetation Types: p ancl all canar rass
Prn (Peat and muck ) ,Ge ( Glencoe silty -ay loamSoil Types:aB2 n1 m 2--67. sLo es raded )
2 DESCRIP?ION OF PROPOSED ALTERATION:
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APPLTCABLE I{ETLAND ORDINANCE SECTION:4
5 DISCUSS THE IMPACTS ON THE PROPOSEDALTERATION IS MADE:
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690 Coulter Drive, p.O. Box I47
Chanhassen, IrrN 55317
( 512 ) 937_1900 IREGETvEm)U FED 291933Date:
To:
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This application is scheduled for cons
Ccrnnission on 3/16
a. City Engineerb. City Attorneyc. City Park Directord. Pu.blic Safety Directore. Building Inspector
2. Watershed District Engiaeer
3. Soil Conseryati on Service
4. UN Dept. of Transportation
5. U.S. Anry Corps of Engineers
6. Minnegasco
REGION VI
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proposal was
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Planning DepartrEnt
Subject: Prcposed Subdivision (Iake Riley Vbods) to cleat€ 16 - 2.5 acre lots and
a l,ietl-and A]te=t c[xren w1 auretland on
Co. Rd. 14 (Pioneer ?raj-l) |Irtil-e east of THPlanning Case:
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described application for approval of a land develocne_nt! lu.eo wlth the Chanhassen planning Department on 2/22
rn -older for us-to provide a corplete 61ar ysis of issues for pJ.annini, ccnrnissionand city council review,. we.would appreciaie your cccnents and reocmendationsconcerning the trpacr of this propoiar on tra?fic circuration, "ri"tiif u"a pro-po:g fgture utility services, storm $,ater drainage, and the need for icq'iringpublic lands or easerlents for park sites, street ;;;i;;-ftiI"#rr.=, arrautilities- where specific neeis or probiurs .*i"t, ,. would like to have awritten report to this effect fron tire .g*"y *"*ned so that we can s.ke areccrme-ndation to the plaIlning Comnissioi ana City Council.
Chanhassen Ci ty iia1]. h'e would appreciate receiving your comrents by no l-aterthan39You may also appear at the planning Cormnissionmeeting i you so oestre.
Your c€otrEration and assistalce is greatly appreciated.
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APPLICANT: Gary Carlson
ADDRESS 38 31 West 52 d Street
I,AND DEVEIOPIIEN T APPI,ICATION
CITY OF CEAIIEASSET|
690 coulter Drive
ChanhasseE, MN 55317(612) 937-1900
OWNER:
ADDRESS
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Zoning District Change
Zoning Appeal
Zoning Variance
Zoning Text Amendment
Land Use PIan Amendment
Conditional Use permit
Site Plan Review
Planned Unit Development
Sketch PlanPreliminary plan
Final Plan
Subdivision
Plat t i ng
Metes and
Stree t/ Easement
Wetlands Permi L
Bounds
Vacat ion
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PRESENT I,AND USE PLAN DESIGNATION RCS1dCNIiAI - LOW Density
REQUESTED tAND USE PLAN DESIGNATIoN ResidenEial - Low Density
PRESENT ZONING RSF Sin 1e Fami 1 Residential DistrictLot 1--1 ,B F rng e Famioc
REQUESTED ZONING Lot 9-11 & 16, Block 1 R-4 Two Family v
USES PROPOSED Residential
SIZE OF PROPERTY 8.6 acres
Northvest Quandrant of State Hi ghway 7 and Church RoadLOCATION
REASONS r.OR THIS REQUEST Subdivi s ion developmenE
Lot 3 and 4
Sch mid's Acre TractsN! Sec.5, T116, R.23Carver County
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PROJECT NAME
EHINH[EEEN
tP.C. DAIE: March 15, 1988
C.C. DATE: April I1, 1988
CASB NO: 88-2 CUP
88-3 Site plan
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Conditional Use Permit Request for Food Processing
Site Plan Review for Office and Warehouse Facilities
LOCATION: Southwest corner of Hwy 5 and Audubon Road
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APPLICANT: McGlynn Bakeries
7 752 Mitchell Road
Eden Prairie, MN 55344
PRESENT ZONING:
ACREAGE:
DENSITY:
WATER AND SEWER:
PHYSICAL CEARAC. :
2OOO LAND USE PLAN:Industrial
IOP, Industrial Office Park
69.7 Acres
RRi Natural Green
A-2i Vacant
IOP; Chanhassen Lake Bus i nes s
A-2; Vacant.
Available to the property
Park
Site is fairly leve1 with a slope to the
south towards the Chicago !,!ilwaukee RRtracks. The site is currently cultivat.ed
tvi th open grass areas.
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March 16, 19 88
Page 2
Section 5-16-2,
as a permitted
food process ing(Attachment #1)
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use
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the IOP District a1lows offices and warehousesin the IOP District. Section 5-16-4 permitsa conditional use in the IoP District
The setbacks for the IOP District are 30 feet front yartl setback,I0 foot rear and side yard setback. The IOP District requires a
minimum 1ot frontage of 150 feet, Iot depth of 200 feet, maximumIot coverage of 708, and front yard setback of 30 feet, a rear
and side yard setback of I0 feet and maximum height of 4 storiesor 50 feet for the principle structure (Attachment #1).
Article 8 of the Zoning Ordinance requires
and interior landscaping of vehicular areastrash enclosures (Attachment #2 ).
perimeter landscaping,
and landscaping for
The zoning ordinance requires 3 parking spaces for each I000square feet of floor area for office buildings and 1 space foreach 1000 square feet of gross floor area up to I0,000 squarefeet and 1 additional space for each additional 2000 sq. feetplus I space for each company vehicle operating from the premisesfor storage, wholesale and warehouse establishments (Attachnent
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Build j.ng Department
Fire Inspector
City Engineer
ANALYSIS
Attachment
Attachment
Attachmen t
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#5
#6
The applicant is requesting a conditional use permit for a foodprocessing plant and site plan approval for an office and ware-
house facility. The proposal consists of a 152,000 square footbuilding with a 2 level office area and a single story plant.
The facility is located at the south enal of the property with 2entrances off Audubon Road. The southern most entrance serves a
161 car employee parking 1ot. The northern entrance will be aprivate drive, constructed to fuII city street standards, with anentrance for trucks and an access to Ehe office employee andvisitor parking areas that are located at the southwest corner ofthe building. The northern and eastern sides of the proposedbuilding contain shipping and receiving areas. The dock area onthe east side of the building will be used exclusively by company
owned vehichles primarily between 2 a.m. and 12 p.m. At the pre-sent time Mcclynn Bakeries operates twelve company owned trucks.The Chanhassen facility hrill employ approximately 200 people witha maximum employee shift of 150.
APPLICABLE REGULATIONS
REFERRAL AGENCIES
llcclynn Baker ies
March 16, 1988
Page 3
CONDITIONAT USE PERMIT
The zoning ordinance requires a conditional use permit for food
processing plants in the IOP District. There are no specific
conditions for food processing listed in the ordinance. The
ordinance does provide eleven conditions that conditional uses
must conform to (Attachment #8).
The proposed food processing plant will not be detrimental to the
public welfare and is consistent lvith the objectives of the
comprehensive plan (designated Induserial). The proposed
building will be compatable with the surrounding and existing
buildings located in the IOP District. The buil-ding is situated
on the property and landscaped so that it will not be visually
detrimental to surrounding areas and future neighborhoods. There
is sewer and rrater available to Ehe property which will provide
an adequate supply of service and can be served adequately by
public facitities. The materials and activities proposed at this
aite will not be detrimental to any persons due to production of
t.raf f ic, noise, fumes, odors. There will be an odor as a result
of the production of Ehe food but the odor should not be detri-
mental as the site is located several hundred feet from future
urban neighborhoods. The site has adequate street frontage for
safe vehicular approaches and the location of the building is
such that it. will not result in the destruction of natural or
historic features of major significance.
RECOI4ME NDAT I ON
Planning staff recommends
following motion:
the Planning Commission adopt the
"The Planning Commission recornmends approval of Conditional Use
Permit *88-2 to allow a food processing plant in the IoP District
rrith the following conditions:
I. Any expansion of the food processing plant would require
another conditional use permit.
Three production shifts will operate 24 hours a day at the
Chanhassen p1ant. Hours of operation are staggered, eliminating
peaks of arrival and departure Eimes for production employees.
The building wiIl consist of precast panel construction, gray in
color r.rith green accents. The southern wall of the building
which houses the offices will contain extensive glass.
Attachment *7 is a letter from the applicant further detailing
the proposal.
The proposed food processing plant is located in a building that
is compatable to surrounding uses and the activity will not be
detrimental to the public safety, health and etelfare.
!4cclynn Bakeries
March 16, 1988
Page 4
SITE PLAN REVIET{
Site Requirement s
The total area of the McGlynn property is approximately 70 acres.The applicant is proposing to develop the southeast poition ofthe site at this time and may subdivide the property intoseparate industrial parcels in the future. ihe-applicant is pro_posing to develop 18.5 acres as part of the first ptrase. Tocalculate the percentage of impervious surface, 1g-.5 acres wiIlbe used as the 1ot area since it may become a separate 1ot in thefuture. The rop District permits a maximum impeivious surface of79t. The,proposed building and parking areas iesult in an imper-vious surface of 34.7t which is within-the requirements of theIOP District.
The Zoning ordinance requires three parking spaces for each 1000square feet of floor area for office space-"nd one per 1000square feet up to J-0,000 square feet and one additilnal space foreach additional 2,000 square feet for storage and warehou'seestablishments. The proposed site requires a total of I50parking spaces and the applicant is pioviding a rotal "i iLOparking spaces- The office and visilor parking Iot wilr have 49parking spaces and the large employee paiking witt frave teiparking spaces There will be a Lotil of tSO 6mployees "n on.major shift at one time. The state building "oa"i requ:.re iratio of I to 50 for handicapped parking spices. The applicantis providing 4 parking spaces. Since theri is more Eh;;-r00parking spaces being provided there should be one addiaio;;ihandicapped parking space provided for a total of 5 nanilicappedparl<lng spaces.
The_applicant. has provided an extensive landscaping plan. Thebuilding is situated such on the site that the a"c[i"g .."u" "."located on the north and east side of the building adjacent toAudubon Road. The actual front of the building c6ntaining theoffice space and main. entry way faces the south to Eake udrunt.g"of the view. since the trucking area and service portions ot tn"building are located where traffic is more visable to trafficalong Audubon Road and in the Chanhassen Lakes Business park, theapplicant has taken extra steps to screen the north and. eastsides of the building. eage 3 of the plans the proposed gradingplans which illustrates a berm that will be provided aloniAudubon Road to screen the building and its activities fr6mAudubon_load. The proposed berm along Audubon Road is approxi-mately 10 feet high and a 20 foot high berm is located aL- thenortheast corner of the site-
The applicant is also proposing extensive landscaping alongAudubon Road. Staff is recommending that the proposed Hac[berrysalong Audubon Road shourd be repraced with eveigreens to furt.herscreen the trucking activity on the east side of the building.
!{cGlynn Bakeries
ltarch 15, 1988
Page 5
Staff is also recommending additional evergreens along the
southeastern corner of the employee parking lot to further screen
it from surrounding properties.
The Zoning Ordinance requires internal landscaping for any
parking area with more than 6000 square feet. The large employee
parking lot is approximately 60,000 square feet and is providing
over 4000 sq. feet of interior landscaping. The smaller employee
and visitor parking 1ot is approximately 17,600 sguare feet and
is providing over 1,200 square feet of landscaping. The proPosed
interior landscaping is exceeding the requirements of the Zoning
Ordinance.
The ordinance also requires thats any exterior trash enclosures be
totally screened by a continuous hedge or wa1l. There is an
exterior trash enclosure proposed to be located in the trucking
area al-ong the eastern side of t.he building. The applicant is
not proposing to screen it at this time. The applicant stated
that the berm along Audubon Road and the proposed landscaping
should adequately screen the trash enclosure from surrounding
properties. Staff is recommending that an elevation plan be pre-
parea wnicn illustrates the berm and landscaping to determine
whether the trash area will be screened. This should be sub-
mitted for staff approval prior to receiving a building permit.
The applicant is providing lighting for the street, parking lots
and buildings. The lighting proposed meets the city standards.
The Public Safety Direct is recommending that roof mount lighting
be provided over each entrance/emergency exiEs located in the
building for security and safety purPoses. This is not required
by state code and is only a recomrnendat ion . In accordance with
the Uniform Fire Code, fire hydrants must be insEalled 300 feet .'
apart and completely surround the building. In addition, a fire
llne rnust be installed around the building. The fire lane shall
be at least 12 feet wide and constructed of all r./eather materials
(concrete and asPhalt).
Park and Recreation Commi s s ion
The trail plan for the city designates a t,rail alignment along
Audubon Road. Currently, there is a 66 foot right-of-$ray which
may not be sufficient to accommodate a trail. The Park and
Reireation Commission is recommending that the city accept park
dedication fees in lieu of parkland. The Park and Recreation
Commission also recommenils a 20 foot trail easement along the
west side of Audubon Road and trail dedicaEion fees (Attachment
#9).
Streets and Ut i li ties
The City
s tree Es ,
Engineer in his attached memo will review in detail the
utilities, gradingl and drainage issues for the site.
McG1ynn Bakeries
March 16, 1988
Page 6
RECOII'IMENDAT I ON
Planning staff recommends the Planning Commission adopt. thefollowing motion:
"The Planning Commission recommends approval ofas shown on the plan stamped "Received Februarythe following condi t.ions:
Site PIan #88-322, 1988", with
l-The three Hackberrys proposed along the r.rest
Road shall be replacedin height.
with three evergreens
side of Audubon
at least 5 feet
2 Additional evergreens, at least 6 feet in height, shall belocated al-ong the easterly boundary of the large employeesparking lot.
One additional handicapped parking space sha1l be provided.
An elevation of the easterly berm and landscaping used toscreen the easterly trucking area sha11 be submitted forstaff approval prior to issuance of a building permit.
Fire hydrants shal1 be installed completely around thebuilding and 300 feet apart. A 12 foot fire lane shall beinstalled around the building and construct.ed of aIl weathermaEerial (concrete and asphalt).
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6 The developer shall enter into a development contract withthe City and provide adequate financial sureties to guaranteeproper installation of these improvements.
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Wood fiber blankets or eguivalent shalllize all disturbed slopes greater than 3
be uti I i zed:I.to stabi=
Plans and specifications for the construction of t.hesewer, watermain, storm sewer and sanitary servicessubmitted for approval by the City Engineer prior tofinal site plan review.
A11 erosion control measures sha11 be in place prior to the
commencement of any grading and once in place sha11 remain inplace throughout the duration of construction. The devel_operis required to review erosion conLrol periodically and makethe necessary repairs promptly. A11 of the erosion controlmeasures shall remain intact until an established vegetativecover has been produced, at which time removal shall be theresponsibility of the developer.
10. The applicant sha11 obtain permits and complyditions from the DNR, Watershed District andappropriate regulatory agency.
sanitary
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with all con-
any other
Mcclynn Baker ies
March 16, 1988
Page 7
ATTAC HN,IENTS
I. Section 5-L6-2 of the Zoning Ordinance.2. Article 8 of Ehe Zoning Ordinance.3. Section ?-I-10 (14) of t.he Zoning Ordinance.4. ![emo from Building Department dated March 3, 1988.5. Memo from Fire Inspector dated March 1, 1988.6. Memo from City Engineer dated
7. Letter from McGlynn Bakeries.
8. Section 3-2-3 of the Zoning Ordinance.
9. Memo from Park and Recreation Coordinator alated March I0, 1988.10. Application.11. Site pJ-an dated February 22, 1988.
Page SIx Chanhasgen Zoriing Ordinance
m 3ilc yad sha[ bc r.quircd wh.o edioioin! co.trmcrcid u3.s
c.trblish joinr off-5E a F lb! flciliti6, .3 Fovktcd ia S.ction
7-l-7, .xccp. thr m pr*iE rt6 drrll L Frrilt d ir .ny r.quiEd
tilc .n ct iidc y.rd. MirimuE rct. fid rhal bc 50 fctt fot blt
dirccdy abuffng .ny Rcsid.ndal Dhtrid. sid. !tr!a sidc yads sh.ll
b. r mininum of 2J f..t.
- A. Front ya.d: !5 f..t.
B. Rc.r y.rd: 30 f..t.
C. Silc yrrdr lJ f..r.
6- M.rimum Hcitht:
A. Prircip.l Snudurr: two norica
E. Acc6sory SEudura: onc toay.
SECTION 16. "IOP" INDUSTR1AL OFFICE PARK DIIITRICT
5-16l INTET{T. Arca id.ntificd for hrSa rlL litbt indunri.l .nd comra6.
ci.l phnacd dcv.l,oFr.$r.
5.162 Thc folro*int us.3 .t! Frmittcd io .tl "lOP" dirarict:
l. Omct3-2. W.r.hous.s
3. Light m.nuf.du,io8
a. Trrdc shop6
,. Halt scrvic6
6. Prinr.rs
,. Indoor h.ahh &d r! r..tion duh6
l. Eody fiopi
9. Urility s.rvicrs
lO. Rcordinf nudio3
ll. Off Emir.s p.rtins brr
I2. Conf.rucc/Conv.rrior c.d..r
5-lG3 Thr folovin8 arc F.mhtcd acc..lory uscs in m "lOP" dist ici:
l. P.rkint lols 8rd
'rmp6Z Si8os
l. x.aail lalcs of produds rrottd or ltl.truf.ctulld on thc drc Fovil-
.d no mor! thin Zyh of thc floa sp... k u!.d for raail r.ks
t-16-a Th. folophS art coodirional u'.. in .n "lOP" dinrict:
l. Concrcte lnilint plarts
2. Communic.lion tr.r5mission lowds
3. Plblic buildiDst
a. Motor frcilhr t flnireb
J. Outdoor lEalth ad r.(r..tiot| dub6
5. S.rEflcd outdoor lror.gc
7. R.scarch hborrbri.s
8. Co 'rdiry y.dt
9. Lumb6 yards
10. Horn. imp(ovcm.nt tradcs
ll. Holcls and horcls
12. Food proclssin8
5-l6J Lol R.quircmmLr and Sctbackr. Ttl€ follo*hg minimum r.quir.mm6
CnI b. obscrv.d in . "lOP" Di!.rid subjcd ro .ddiiional r.quirarar!,
.rccptions aid modificarioN rd fonh in rhis Odin.ncc.l. Mirimum Lor Ar.a: oft aa6.2. Minimum Lot F.onlat.: 150 fca (crc.pt lols fronaint on.orlj.-
r.c shal harc . minimum 60 foor fron6t.).
3. Minimum Lo( D.p!h: z)O f..r.
a. Msrimum lot coecrag.: ,O7..
,. S.rbacts. Off{t..tl p.rtht et.a! shafl codply wkh a[ y.id E-
quirsncnB of thb S.clixr, .xcq. thd rc rc.. y.rd p.rbng sdbrct
ihr[ b. r.qun d for brs dircdly rbunitrt r.ilro.d !r.cla&i and.
ao sid. yad rha0 bc r.quircd ehcn ad.ioinint corflmcrcial us6
cstablish joinl off-srrcca parling flciliri6, ar provid.d in S.clion
7.1-7, clc.t U.r no partiry rrcrr ih.[ b. p(,rDin d b y rcquircd
sidc nrra sid. y..d. Minidum r..r Frd !h.ll bc y, fcct for loB
dir€caly aburiq .,ry R6lrcati.l Dilrict. Sid. rana iilc Frdr shitl
tc . minimum of 2J f..t h all dlrldcrs.A. F.oor yard: 30 fc.a.
B. R€ar yard: l0 f..i.C. Si.rc Frd: l0 f..t.
A. Sitc shlu b.locztcd only on.itc! h.vint drcci acc6s !o mhor
rtcrid rrrt!t3. collccrort ot i.rvic. mad$
B. Pubtc sddrlss synctrl shrl nor b..udibL ftorD ray ttdd!tr-
ti.l p.rcd;
C. St ckin8 .rt:. for drivc-lhrough ?hdo*t $rI confoir ro rF
propri.tc parliru s.lb.ckti and' D, Buildinf !hr[ b. s.t b8t .r b i lm lca .trd $r..n.d frod
.[y dir.c pmp.riy d6iSBrtd fo. rEidarirt u!. i! dE Cdr-
prchalsivc Plaa.
E. Rcslrurinl! - SLrd.d
A. shal nor b. F mincd withh lm fra of.ry llsiddrtid D.rrd.
9. T.tnporary Outdoor DitpLy of MdEh.ndis. for seL
6. Merimum Hcilhr:A. Princip.l SrrudurE: fouI lori6/50 f.dB. A€6sory Srrudura: onc ltory.
A. Largth of disphy will bc ddlrmircd by lic City CouEil;
B. Sq!.nin! iul bc lroviLd ftoE r! idaiid.rd officc hri6
proF ty;
C. . No Frblic .ddr6. ryrt o thrll b. &rdibL from .try tt idcotid
propcftyi
D. sirc shr[ bc k.pr in . 6t atrd 6daly f.lhiotr;
E. No u.c. sh.[ bc Fmilicd ir tEquncd p.rtirt or buildins tci-
bect aftar; rld
F. Dbghy Cu[ m. b. Foincd iibi. l(D f.d of rtry rt'kl..o-
tid ptcd.
lO. Tluc}, Auto o. Bo.r S.Lt
A. No rrhhks *hd .I! unli(a!.d ad iDopqxivc $dl b. tlorcd
or rh. prdh6:
B. AI Gprir. lrr.ot'ly, dL.sarbly 6 oriollo.E ol vctid..
$r[ occrn ?irhh r cloed buildirt.r..F Eim E iDt.n.Dc.,
i.dudin& but nd limh.d ro, rir! in lrtioo, rdditr! dl.Dd rip.r
rEplircamcnl:
C. No ouBidc $orag. o( di.phy ar.pt v.hi'|.! for s.L 6 rtrti
D. No poblic addEs. lyncD dull b..udibL frod.ry r!.iialtid
E. P.rkint t rbad $.[ b. rpplic.bL lor cll or nuct taontc n
waitint.rcas:
F. No t n driving of v.hicl6 or local r.ridcrti.l iarcd$
C. Shall maint in a laodsclp.d buficr lm f..t froB ary Esid.a.
tial roniog disrricli rod
H. AII vchiclc dcab6 3h.ll bc lic.[rcd by rh. tar..
SECTION 18. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT (PUD)
5-18-l INTENT. Planncd unit dcvclopmdrB.rc to provilc for and cncour.&
cr..tivc riG plmiAg ard subdivisioni of high qudity ihrouSh (hc urc of:l. Ydicty. Wirhin . comp!.h.n!iv. dt. d..Ln conccpt . mirturr of
land u!!r houeing rn6, .nd d.nsid.s.
2. S.nsiivity. Through lhc dcp.nul! troo rhc .lnct applic.tion of r!-
quirod s.tbacls, yard :raas, lot ria6. a6d o(hc miniarom rc-
qut m.,|B. and Fformrnc. iaodards .ssoci.tcd wnh hditional
roning, planocd unit d.vclopm.nts call ma mizc rhc d.lclopmmr
potcntial o I land whilc r.mainiry s.niiriv. to its uniquc ard valurblc
narur.l characr.risrics.
l. Emcicrcy. Th€ mom .ffici.nr us. of hrd .nd public !.ryic.s, con-
solid.rbn of arcas for rccrcation, rcductio63 h slr.a ldgahr .[d
orh6 utiliry ralaicd dpcn!6.a. Ddlsity. An incr.a!./trar5f.r for d.nsiry may tr alloi?.d .r thc solc
dis.rcrion of $. City urilizint th. folbwillg f.cro6:
A. Tbc .!.a eh.rc rh. drnsity b tarsf.rr.d mun bc eirhin thc
proj.d ar.a ard oyncd by dr proDona[
B. Dalsiry tranrfcr in dnSL f&ity &uchd aft. wil bc ca.luat.d
usins U€ irans lisr.d h S.Erioo l8-3 (A). Dalsiv Eansf.r cliSi-
bb for multiplc family ar!!s rI! ma Fmitt.d to b. appli.d
to sintL fsmily rrc.!-
C. D.isity lrrn3f6 for oih6 lioixlt oah.t lhrtr sintl femit
ddadd dlvclo![rd idl t .vrlu.ld bar.d qr $. n.rd.ds
h S.cfon lt-3 (B).
D. In no e!. 3hall thc ov6rll dcrity of lh. &vclopmc lic.rd
thc fror. d.nsity r.nf.t idctraifi.d i'l lh€ Comprdcnsivc Phn .
J. District tncsrrdon. Th. cotDtinllio. of uF lhich arc dlo*d i[
s.par.E zoninS dilriati tlld 8:
A. Mix.d mjid.ati:l rlowir[ boah d.!riti6 rrd unft tyrr.. ro bc
v..i.d ehhir tL P'oi.Cl.B. Mircd r.sidatid rih inct.!.d dcnlilv &knoeLditrs rt.
8rcrl.r 3cnsirivily of PUD proj.d!.
C. Mircd bnd u!6 enh lt. int tdoon of coog.tibl. Lod ul.
*ifi'n th. proj.d.
5. Parks and Opcrt Sp..!. Tft qado! of Fblic opcn spa.. mry b.
rcquir.d by thc Citr. Sudr ,.tt .td opcr .p.(! $dl bG con.irlcot
vih rhc Compcha5ivc Phr rlxl ov6rll (I.il pLn.
5 - l t'2 ALLOWED USES. A PU D m.y inc,ludc only tho6. us.. coNistlnt uirh
lh. gtncrd land uac cat.goay foa lhc sr.. ofl th. ofalcirl Comprcha-
siv. Plan. Sp.cilic us.3 end !aform.Il.! r.rdltd. fot c.dr PUD ih.U
tE dclin arcd h . d.r,cbptn.nr phn.
S-lE-! REQUIR ED STANDARD6. Ttr City.h.! @n da ln. FopG.d PUD
from (hc Doint of vic* of .I r.ad.d! .rd Frpo*r of at' Comptd@_
siv. hnd Us. Pbn to €oodinrl! t rvcn th. 9.oPot'd d'a'loplt6rl
.n.l thc aur.oundin! us6. Th. Citv sh.I coa'ida th' lo"tion of
buildin$, comFdbiliay, P.tlha..t t.nd di6 fc'llrtl tih rBp.cl
ro rt* opogrrdv of dE l'a td Grnfi{ o{ttj f''u't!i 'L
cff icrcr.
laurcr:na ..iav of oc Fotc.d t o.|l o' r'er,i thc td'quav .ad
taiin'or rrra rrts: on .dGquGr' lo..riE d Etai]lt ol tlBo-
colnFobL hrld ur. rld F.Iint rft.t.'-'i. r" &;;;; iu. i"l. t -ry aaand r,cer.rc Eo'
. ro..4 d.,ollorit a.rdrdt thf r0eiY:- l- Tt .rrra. b. dLE !u, L ltdrcd l&r lr,@ tqu.rt., &
-rr aGr. tn .it fr.-
J.l&4 co(
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SECTION I?. 5IANDARDS FOR CONDITIONAL USES TN THE
BUSINESS. OFFICE. INSTTTUTIONAL, AND
INDUSTRIAL DIiTRICTS,-l?'l ln addnion lo rhc i.ndards r.quir.d by 3-2-1, th. folloeing iandards
sfi.ll apply to rh. condiriooel u..s lijr.d bcbw:l. Aulomorivc S.wac SrarionsA. No unlictns.d a ioopaabb lrhict s sbdl b. roEd o.r pEmit i
exc.pt in aDDroD.iarcly dclignod and ..r.cn.d srorag. ar.ali
B. A[ rcpair. cl4bly, dir$s.tnbly ad m.int n.i.. of vchiclcs
rhru occur *rlhin cbr.d burldins €rep( minor mainl.nanc.
iocludin8. bur nor limir.d to lir. hnadon,.ddinS dl and eip.r
rcplacdr.ltr:
C. No public .ddr.:r systcm rhell bc audibL from any Esidodal
parccl:
D. Sr.ckins a!. dem.d ro b..pgropriar€ by rh.ciry shall m..r
parlinS sc(ba.t r.quirdncntsi and
E. No eLs, lrorrt. or dl.play of us.d ru6mobil6 or o(h6
v.hicLs 3uch e5 mobrcyclc.. srowmobil6. o. ell.t€rrain
vchicl6.
F. Dirpo..l of et3c oil .h.I compF enh rcA rcsuLtiont.
2. Ad.pdvc Eu!. of tu.plu. o( vronr Frblic o. prit.t. buildinrt ,o.
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D. mc.$r.d froo rfr b.r ot rh. .o.., rd lr. nitn.{ ,rornol..r.t.r$on of $. rotor.A, A rrdo o{ o. (t) l@a ro dr 0) ,6( trrtdn rh. drr.nc.of tL clo*r ltop.ny tiE to rn brr of Or r .ECS rc rh.hliahr of rh. irtrcm.B. A Ea.rimuE ry.GE ha8rrr of dG huldrld rary-fD. (t 7r,lccr.
fh.-ihond hcittrr of UG lwo.bovc o.adon d lr.rhodr rh.lt b.ulcd io !:l1inDs rlr mrinua rlbsrbtc h.isrrr of r WECS
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XP-.-oI. R.t 14,-MCAR l.3or5 -L"u.i. r.i o"*.i,,i,,iuD rudrqt ro At Nrvh{ioo."
S.tbrckr..No pan of . WECS (inctodiDs 8uy eir. atrchot!) .h.!Dc.rocard.n_rnir a rboE .ny r.quirld froaq si,. d lt , ,rrdcrbact. WECS row.r! 3h.ll tl. erbr.k f.om rh. do".s, p-p.r,yliB.orE {t) foq fa .vt'y oo. (t) foo. of,yn6r hcirnr: wics,tr ll noa b. bcar.d wirhin hiny OO) f.cr of.n 6ovc lround udtirylinc-
Rdor Siz.. A[ SIECS roto'! shall nor hevc rcro. djama.rs gsrtlrth.n twcnry-sir (2O fc.a.
:. \\ hcre tiacuonrl spa.ts rcsult. rh. parlrnt lpae! r.quucd sh:U
ba conrtru.d to b. thc ncrr lart c *holc numbcr.
J. Ofi.r Us.s. Othcr us.r oot spccificiuy mcition d hcrein sh.[ bc
d.rcrmin.d by dr Bo.d of Adjusolcaa !d Appcak. Thc f.doR
ro bc coniidcr.d in $dr dltcrniErion shall tl.lud. sir. of buihir&
ryF of us., numblr of anploycra. c4ractad volumc rnd Nmoy.t
of clriom.r raffic and qpact d fraqucncy and lErmbct ofddivdy
oa sarvic! v.hiclcr.
Y.rdr. On-rtc parlh!.nd lo:din8 facilitics sbal not bc pcfmittd io
th. r.quir.d fmn| y.rd, sid. ,ard or rcar y.rd, .xcc9. as pmyid.d in
Autf6 F.nc6 .nd Phntin8 S('t( r.. On{ilc parlhg .nd b.din8 ar!.!
n ., o. rbuttina rcsidqid.l diskicr3 shal bG scrc.n.d in conformsncc
rith th. provRtoff of Aniclc VllL
l. Prtins l'ld b.dir! r9e sh.ll hrw Fop6 a.c6! from I lublic
2. Th. rlunb.r o, *rti of ee.s! &ivc. 3h.I bG lo..tcd ro otinilDi:!
rrrffrc contBtbo rd abnormal kaffic haiard.
Lo.adon of Perlin! F..iti!ic. a[d Combir.d Faciliri6. R.Cuird on-_
tnc.parkina Tac. ,t.ll b. Dlovi{r.d or rh. 3.m. h rr UE principat
building o. us.. Giclpt ttrt coobirGd c joinr Frtr!8 facitirica mlyb. provilld fq oft (l ) or Eor! buikrhs' o. ur6 b Busioc.s Di{rid!.nd in lrdu$n l DirEkr.. EoviLd rtt.l 6c 6rrl luEb.r of F..ri$.I .qud dr au6 of UE ftquirdD.trB fo( ..d buildins or u!c.
Conlrudion end Mriocnrc..l. h Muhiplc-fa&ity, Buritrc.. Omc! rrd IndLsial Di.tricr, D6rt-it8 rrcar .trd.ccar drir6 shsll tE t.v.d with a dun-frc., rU-
iaathci $draa *ith FoF $rfrc! drain$, and conc'al. qrrb.
2. TIE opq-.ror of thc Fiacipd buildi!8 o( ul. shall aeinLir p{rt-
i"g rr ledi"s rEas, rarass drivaa ed yrd .rr.s h r n€.r ald.6vi.!.bL co.dirion.
Lthrio8. A[ coomcEid, irdunri.l lld muti-f.Eity Frtiat bri dr.[t li8hl.d. Lightiry $.! t dircc-t d .w.y fron rt public riShrnf-
w.y and adjrcc_nr R6id6rial o. A8riclrlNnl Disricr.R.qoi.d Numb.t of Onsir. Partiht S*c.s. Otr-.it! pertihr rrajofsufficia sia !o p.ovid. p.rtina for D.rDat, .rrsroc.E, .uppli.rs,viri.oR rnd dploy.!..h.[ b. Eovid.d oo th. p(!Eis.. of c.dr u&.Tlt mininum nunbG of ftquild oa-$l. pirtitra prccs fo. dE folo*-
inB ui.3 sh.ll b.:l. Als.mbly q ahibirjon h.ll, audirorium, rhcaEr or sons.r!n
- on. (l) parling spac. for G3dr fou, (4) s.a!r, bas.d upon dlsi8n
2. Auro rabs, trailai 3ats, Eqirc end boat r.Ica, iropl.mana sal.s.
8ard6 supply rrorc. buildin! mrr.ri.b s.t.., .uto r@rir - ooc(l) parlirt sp& for ..ch fiv. hudrld (rO) squar. tc.i of floor
AutomobiL scrvic. i.tion - foul (4) prrkint rp...., plur two (2)p.rliry sp.c.s for ..dr i.rvicc sr.jl: ,u.h partilt p.c.s shaU bc
in addrrion ro pa.kint rp.cc Equircd fo. ta! pump !r..t.
Bosudg dl€y - scvco O) partin8 sp.cci for ach bowtin8 L|l€.
Church.s - onc (l) parlinr spaa. for c.dr rhr!. Ol "..a, U.*a
on &c d6ign cap.ciry of rhc mall sc.dng rJc., plEr olE (l) rpac.
Ds.llirgiA. Shglc-family - awo (2) parkinS spac6. bolt of which mlrrt
bc complacly arclos.d. No $ra8. shall b. convcn d inlo liv_int !pa.. unkr ortcr Ilcplrbtc oo-sirc pertint sp..! bproeid.d.
8. Multi-family - onc (t ) pating p.c. F cfF*icoc, unit, t-j
S,.c6 p6 on bcdroom urit" reo (A p.j.Iitrt D.E r p.t. ryo
or morE bcdroom3. Saic citiza$ houdnS duu havc ,( lpc
pcr d*€lliry unit. Ar a minimum, onc (l) spa.. ps unir rhust
bc compldcly drclos.d.
F-inancial lnsrilution - onc (t) Se.. for Gach two hurdrld fifiy(2J0) squrE f.d of floa Dec..FumituE n appli cc aaor. - o* (l) t9E for crct foor hutr-dr.d (40O) f!< of non trc..
H6pitals ard nursht hom6 - onc rp&! for Calfy rwo (2) b.d!,
Pr'l: onc (l) spac. for clcfy two (2) cnpbylls on nrE tar!.sr 3iryt.
shifr-
10. Manufacurint a lroc6sin8 pL - ol|. (l) ofi_rtr.cr p.*in8
9ac. for cad anpbyc. o rlE mrj6 .hift .rd on (t) off-.E i
Frting {'.c! for !.dl comFny mo(6r rhiclc wh.n clrom.rity
krpa on thc pr.inir6.
I I.. X.dical aod dcrlel cliniB.nd rbitnrl hospirat -on (I)prrtiaS
spac. fo. !.dr oDc hmdftd tifty (tjo) squrE fca of noo( a..a.
. 12. Mo(tuadcs - oll. (t) !pec. for.v.ry rhr.. (3) s.3n.
13. Mo(cl or hotcl - onc (t) p!.tinf sp..! fo..acn rEnrrl .oom o.
a- sukc, plus olE (t) s,ta f6 cvcry wo O) anpby..!.
!(, / l{. Ofrr. buildhlr (rd!t'ni.&rtiv., hirtin s a p.ofcsionrl) _ thr!'\L- O) p.diot sp.cB for d c rhol. d(I.m)iquaEfcdof floc
15. Public lcrvicc building, indudin! ,runkip.t rdmidrt rior
buildin$, colnltlutliry c.n!6. pubtk librrry, mus.um, rn !dlcri6,.!d posro ffic. - onc (t ) p.rtirs $'..r fo. G..n fivc hldltd (j0)
.ql)lE fca of 0oa.!r. in rt prin ip.t irruquE, plur o{E (l) p..f-
io8 sp.c. for .rdl foul (a) rcrB riitin Frb[c &r.Ebty q I[ .tinl
rooaI3,
. 15. R....rdoul frciliri.., indu.rin! loll.ou6!, colldry ctub. rim-aiq chb. rr.qua dub. public rwimnins pool - r?.nry (r)
tp.c6, plu. olr (l) rp... fo?.r.h fiv. hundrd (Jm) t{u!r f.ri
o, flon rft. b dE grndpd .rrucaur! oa 2 3prc.r pc. coun.
) ovil.d it t no.!d
ttu (a, t.tl-
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y oa thc arar or sidctr nlint or.torag.
p.firincd bcrEir,
)ut rcgrrd !o thc loca-
o.dirA.d 6L'.,rin8
. I no hjsh.r fian
\_c!rcly lrpDortcd
bhct!. or suppon
t dl{.pL opqablc
. - r livint, slc.pinst cooi.Ertiw days.x_ conditions rrlEn
alional v€hiclc powcr
ial dirr.icls. Rourincn urcs p.i mon6.J RESIDENThL
fftria. r'ra soragc
h€ r..r yard, subj.cl
f-- :.d in aaordancc)t .d in cirth rolcc_rit bl. $rttoi'l8
IORS: STORACE
. N^ srr.rior srorigcb lin8 cndos.d byc d ar.a. Covcr.d
d(Atpiad from rh6.
n, froh ldrral it-f si! fmm which
. rll.ftbLs r Eaffic
ould cr".t a hazrd
:r I dirtrici qc.pl
u of rhc princip.,
a. Roror CLa'rE. ghdc .rca ar.&d by th. WECS sh.ll hevc r
rtlirimurn of tbirty €0) fc6 of ctc.rue ova .Dy slIu.tur. or u.!''-'- -wiuin. two hurdftit (rO, foo. tediu..5. Roror Saf.ry. Erh WECS ilEI b. lquipp.d llirh borh e manudlnd aurdnalic bntinS rcrvic. cap.bb of iroppinS rh. WECS
opcradon h hith wbdr ({O mph o. 8r.at.r).6. Lbhrrmg Pror6rioo. E&h tyECS rh.[ b. Sround.d ro ptot €t
tsinn o&urd liShEriry $ritca h coafofiD.ne tlith thc nslioa.l
ELcnic:l Codc.7. Tor.r Acclss- To Fcv€'lt utrsuthoriz.d diErbin& WECS !0?6rllol canpb l,ith ollc of lh. fotbe.ia8 provirion.:A. T016 dimbirg r9f'.r.aui lhall tror bc loc.Gd withi, twdvc
(12) f.a of ih. 8murd.B. A locl.d ediclirhb daicc stal bc ins.Icd on th. tow6.C. Toe.r c.pabt of b.int dimb.d .h.[ b. ados.d by . locl.!d, prorc4ivr f.r.! 6! k ! sir (O f€.r hish.E. SiSo!. WECS sbrl hrvc oo. (!) siao, not ro ac!.d rl,o (2) squ.r.
f€c posr.d .r rbc b.s. of rh. roec ard seil siaD lhajt corraitr rh.
folloeinS irforDstion.A. Wrrnint high vot[gc.B. M&tufacruEr! ,Emc.C. Eh.rScncy phooc lrumb.r.D. Em.ttcocy shuldolxn p.o..du6.9. Li8btinS. WECS !b.I lor h.v".fu.d or lr..ch.d atry lishr!,rEfl.rlorr flah€rs o( rn, orhGr illtlmh ioo, crccpr fc iluEhr-
tioo dlvic6 .quircd by fAA R.gutarior. psn 77 -Objc.r Af-
lccriry NaviFblc Air Sp.c." a.trd FAA Advisory Circul.r?0/7{6GIF, s.pt mbcf l9?g ..Ob6rrudior i,t rkirs l,d Ligbtio8,,.l0- El6rromlp.ric Inr.rf.r.nc.. WECS shal b. d-igo.a -a con-
nructcd so as ooa to c5u5. radio .!d r.lcvirioa itrtcrfar.nc..
I I . Noisc Embsions. Noi*s Grnioariry f.oo lh€ op.ratior of wECS
shall b. in cqnptiane wilh rnd r.gr arcd by dE $..r. of Minn6or.
Pollurioa Cortrot Slandardq Mim.sora R.tulado NpC I.nd
2, ar arn€ndcd.
12. Utility Company Intcrconnc.rion. No WECS !ha[ bc in!.rcon.
nccGd wiih s local ctcclrical urility company uniil thc urility com-
pery h.i rcvicw.d atrd conmlu.d upor it. Th. inr.rcoorl.cdor
of rh. WECS liilh Oc urility coopatry Cla t .dhat ro drc narionll
Elcct ical Codc ar adopr.d by thc Gty of Chroh.iEn.6208 OrDa&crr.l wid D6/ic.s. Omem. at eird &vicca lhar arc nor a
WECS lbdl b. cranpa from $! provisb of thL S.ction .rd sha
conform lo oth.r applicablc provisioai of rhi. Ordinancc.
G2C9 lospcctioo. Th. City of Ch h.$.n h.rcby rl .'vc! rhc rithr upon ir-
$in8 aoy WECS cotrdirioaC usc pcrmit io inrp.q dl. pr.rnis.! on
whicb thc WECS n bc.r.d. If . WECS ir mr m.hlain d in opa.-
tbo3l condtim .rd por6 a pota id safay h.r.rd, fi. opn.r rhrllr.t. ap.ditious action ro co.rrd rtc liauarion.
62G10 Abandonmcnl. Any WECS or roylr which is [ot us.d for sir (5) ruc-
c.siiv. mondE rhal b. d.an.d abardoncd arxl shall b. disnandcd rnd
r.movcd from rb. propclty .r thc spcrs. of th. prop.ny owrEr.
SECTION 2I. ANTENNAS AND SATELLTTE DISHES6.21-l S.rdlirc dLh.i. rcLvision arcnnas .nd r.dio aat nna. sh.I bc Fr-min.d ac.cs.ory ur6 yirhh .I zoritrg dilrri(r!. provd..t rhq m..tth. followurs condirio :l. A Sround mouar.d dirh sh.ll nor ac..d tift co (tJ) fea in tEishr
.bov. g.oud lcv.l. R.db rt|tcnnas shal rc6iv. r cooditioral u!.
p.rmia prior to insrallatio[ .nd th.ll troa .tc.Gd fony-fivc (45) ,.rtir hcith(.2. No r.llllitc drsh c or6n $r[ t bcLd rihia 6c Equir.d
f.onr y.d !ab..t 6 sit yrrd s.6..k.l. Croud rrcu cd dirh.r rtld r[l.ara! still bc ad bact ftom all.dFinut loB a di3..ne iquivelatr to dE hciShi of .h dist orrfl.nna. Cround mqrnt d dilh.s,nd anl.nlra! ,hrll b. toal.d r.n
(10) fcct or ntor! fmm.ny orh6 buMing 6 ,ruc1ur! dl !h. 3lm.
ht .rd rhrll nor b. lo.tr.d rithia r urility ..rln6r. La:dor ihrll
noa r.lvca3.ly ob.rrud vidt from di.c.|t Drorcny.4. A buJdin! pctmn sh:I b. Equircd fo, tnc in a.thdon of.!y dirh(r.rrmn!. Buiuins pcnni .pptEtbot rh.lt rcqui.r thc erblllrr-
$on ot . ira pt n ar$ irucrur.l cooDnaoE. Wh.n r dbh d encn-n ir loc|rd on rh. roofofr buitdin& rlE.pDtic.fl rhrll fum,3hrlc Cny Buildins offili.t rnh buildin! ptrnt .lld rrucrur.t com.FEIE di'phyin! rhc r&.nt of .drr|ra ir ro dr r@f of r buildiq.Th. Auddht Offrirl mus tltDroE th. buitdint ptrr!3 b.fo.cl,ltr.thlbtr.t- tahl!6t PrDt.Gri(n. Er|i di.t 6 rrr.rn ih.tr b.goold.d to
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CITY OF
EHINHISSEI[
690 COULTER DBIVE ' P.O. BOX I47 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
Barbara Dacy, City Planner
MEMORANDU M
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
SUBJ :
The site plans
reviewed. The
noted:
Inspections Department
March 3, 1988
k
Planning Case: 88-2 CUP and 88-3 Site PIan Review
(McGlynn Bakeries )
you submitted for Mcclynn
following corrections and
Bakeries have been
suggestions should be
1) Handicapped parking should be at a ratio of 50 to I or a
toLal of 5 spaces.
2) Please g j.ve the architect a
be subnitted at the time of
3 ) A Commercial
given to the
Bui J.di ng Permit Requirement sheet
architect and cofltractor.
Code Review Outline.
the preliminary plan
This shouLd
review.
should also be
4) We will require a complete set of plans
nary plan review. Two weeks should be
minary plan review.
to conduct
alloweil for a prelimi-
the prel i-
t/\
COMII,IERCIAL BUILDTNG PERMIT REQU I REMENTS
1.
2.
Planning Directors plan Approval
Stat.e Board of HeaLth Approval (if
a. Percolation tes tb. Private sewerage system designc. Pool and filteration plans andd. Kitchen and restroom plans and
3. uetro SAC lette!
Metropolitan Waste Control350 Metro Square Building7th and Robert StreetsSt. Paul, MN 5 5I0I
222-8423
required )
s pecs
specs
Commission
5
6
7
4. Fire .Marshal Approval
Landscaping plan (curb and gutter per
Bonil or Letter of Credit :(covering cost of landscaping, bituminous surfaeing,and curb and gutter )
8.
9.
10.
11:
12.
13.
14.
15 -
15.
t7.
En ergy
Water
S igned
S i gned
S i gned
Signed
S igned
Erosion
Soil Test
Signed Utility Plans approved by Engineering Dept.
Calculations
Connection Charges (per acres )
Archiiect plans
Plumbing plans
H. V.A. C.. plans
Sprinkler plans
Electrical pla ns
control and drai nage
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I
Don Bluhm
Survey
1 approval )
INCLUDE TWO (2) SETS OF PLANS
plans
OUTLINE CODE REVIEW
Pro ject Name and locatibn:
r
Pri.uary OccupaDcy Classification
Prima4z Occupalcy .erea . Act
Occupart Load ( Sp,/Occupa[t)
No. of Employees
Required Exit width
Required N 'r'ther of ,Exj.ts
Occupancy Separation Rating Required
Openings in Exterior Walls
Additional Occupancy classif ications
Additional occupancy Area Act.
Occupant Load ( SrlOccupant)
No. of Employees
Reguired .Exit l{ialth .
Required Nunber of Exi ts
Occupancy Separation Rating Reguired
Required N umber of T oilet Fixtu res:
Menrs
l{omen ' s
Yes NO
SF. Allow sF.
sF. Allord SF
Total
LF
!i.c.
If.c.
I,AV.
IAV.D.E
JAN.
SINK
.','i/:r ..
''Si'-'
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OCCUPN{CY REOUIREI,EI{Ti:
occupancy cf as siti..cition
cross Buil.ding jUe"
Autonatic Sprinkldrs
Area Separation Rating Requ ireme nts
....iit.:
a.II.CONSTRUCTION REOUI REMENT e.
Required Cons truction e
Sprinklered
Re ired Hour 1v Ratinrst Co . & N.
Structural CoIs.
Structural Beo,trs and Girders ....
Setback t pire Resistance of Ext.
Bearing Walls
. Non-Bearing WaUs
Alea Separation l{alls
Occupancy Separation Walls
(aad fl.oor-ceilings )
Exit Corridors
Exit Stair Enclosures
Exit Doors
tock Type Allowed
Panic Hardware Requirements
Elevator Shaft Enclosures
It{echanical Room Enclosures,
Partitions (fuII height)
P.artitions (partial) .
Plooring Ceiling Cons truction
Roof Ceiling constructlon.
Roof Class Rating . r, , ..
Walls
Adtlitiona].
Occupancies
Primary
Occupancv
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..1r..'.-'.,.:,:. lr
.lt.i1,/i;i
+!i-!'1'
,III. ADDITIONAI .EQUIPMENT REQUIREMENTS:(from code orF .J.re Chief or lpca.L Building)
Standpipes - Size,,No. and I,ocati.on.
Smoke Detect;rs, tTyie A required locations
Fire Extinguishers, Type & requiredlocations
panel
Sprinkler Aldrm System
Automatic Roof (sruoke)
Access to roof . (ladder
hatch
or stair)
A. Sooke and flame ratings
Plooring'.
WaI]. I'inishes
Ceiling and soffit materials
Draperies
Sign materj.als
C. Glazing Requirements(Wire glass, tempered glassplastic glazing and skylights ,size linits and material required)
Exterj.or canopies e applied facings
B. Foam Plastlc Insulation protection
reguired
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CITY OF
EHINHISSEN
690 COULTER DRIVE . P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
MEMO
T0: Barbara Dacy, City Planner
FROM: Steve ltladden,Fire InspectorDate: March 1, 19BB
Subject: McGlynn Bakeri es(88-2 cUP and 8B-3 Site Plan Review)
Upon review of the site plan for the new McGIynn
Bakeries facilties, I recommend the following:
l.) In accordance w
Sec.10.301(c),
300 feet apart,
the Un i form Fi re Code,
hydrants must be instal led
i nstal I ed around the bui 1ding.
ith
the
and
2) In accordance with the Uniform Fire Code,
Sec.10.207(a), a fire lane must be instal led
around the bui 1di ng.
If you have any questions, ask.
c.c Scott Harr
Jim Chaffee
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UNIFORM FIRE CODE
,ctlon Equlpmenl
ull placc or keep atty post, fence. vehicle, growth,
ial or fiing near arty firc hydrant. fire department
,n system control valve that would prevent such
:ing immediarely discemible orin any other malner
riumrcnt from gaining irnmediate access to said
imum 3-foot clear space shall b€ maintained around
rydranls except as otherwise required or approved by
? APparatus
ed ConslructioD. Ever.v building hereafter con-
o firc depanment apparatus by way of access road-
rg surface of not less tha[ 20 feet of unobstructed
y tuming radius capable of supporring the imposed
raving a minimum of 13 feet 6 inches of vertical
utment access rcads in excess of 150 feet long shall
rovisions for the turning arcund of fire depanment
r thcrc aIe nd mor€ rhan two Groop R, Division 3 or M
n lhc BuildingCode. thc requicmcnt of lhis seciton may be
'inion ofthe chief, fire-fighting or rescue operations would
cquircd width of access roadways shall not be
rluding pa*ing ofvehicles. NO PARKING signs or
both prchibiting obstructions may be rcquired and
radway shall be extended ro wirhin 150 feet of all
, ofthe first story of any building. Where the access
. approved fire proteclio[ system or systems shall be
.roved by the chief-
raa,!. Wherc fire-protection systems approved by the
: rcquired clearance may be modified.
shall have fte auhority to require an incrcase in the
rere such width is not adequate for fire or rescue
umbers or addresses shall be placcd on all ncw and
)osition lrs to be plainly visible and lcgible from rhe
property. Said numbers shall contrast wtlh th€ir
1982 EDtTION 10.209-10.301
l(ey Box
Sec. 10.209. When access to or withifl a sructurc or an area is uoduly difficult
because of securcd openings or where immediate acccss is necessary for life-
saving or fire-fighting purpos€s, the chief may require a ke-v box to be i$aalled in
ao accessible locadon- The key box shall be a type approved by the chief and shall
contain keys to gain necessary access as requircd by the chief.
Division ll!
INSTALLAT]ON ANO MAINTENANCE OF FIRE-
PROTECTION, LIFE.SAFETY SYSTEMS ANO
APPLIANCES
lnstallatlon
Scc l0.J0f. (a) Dpe Required. The chief shall design e the (ype and number
of fire appliances to be installed and maintained in and upon all buildings and
premises in the jurisdiction other than private d*ellings- This shall be done
irccording ro the rclative severity of probable firc. includirg the rapidity wiih
which ir may spread. Such appliaoces shall be ofa type suitable for thc probable
class of firc associated with such building or premises and shall have approval of
the chief.
Porrable fire extinguishcrs shall be in accordance with U-F.C. Standad No.
r0-l.
(b) Spccial Hazards. [n occupancies of an especially hazardous nature or
whcre spccial hazards exisl in addition to the normal hazard ofthe occupancy, or
where acccss for fire apparatus is unduly difficult. additioMl safeguards may b€
rcquired consisting of additional fire rppliance units. more than onc type of
appliance. or special systems suilable for the protcction of the hazard involved.
Such devices or appliances may consist ofautomatic fire rlarm systems, ilutoma!-
ac sprinklcr or water spray systcms, standpipe and hose. fixed or portable firc
cxtinsuishcrs. suitable asbestos blankets. breathing apparatus. manual or auto-
matic covers. crrbon dioxide, foam, halogenated and dry chemical or other
\pecial iirc-extinguishing systems. \&here such svstems ore installed, (hey shall
bc in accordance wilh theapplicable Uniform Firc Code S tandards or standards of
lhe Nalionul Fire Protectioo Associrtion wherl Uniform Fire Code Standards do
not apply.
(c) $bter Supply. An approvcd *ater supply capable of supplying required
firc flow lbrfirc prorecrio! shall b. provided to all premises upon which buildings
or portions of buildings arc heGaater constructed. When any portion of the
building protected is in excess of 150 fc€t from a waler supply on a public strEct,
there shall be provided. wheD rcquired by ahe chief, on-sile fire hydBms ard
mains caprble of supplying the rcquired nre flow.
warer supply may consist of rcservoirs, pressurc tanks, elevared tarks. watct
mainsor olhertired sysremcapablc ofsupplyint th€ rcquircdfirc flo*. In seltiog
the rcquircments lbr firc flow. thc chief may be Euid€d by the staadad published
at
re is required to be used as acccss undcr this section.
irinlained in accordance with rhe applicable sections
rg design livc loading suflic ient to carry the imposed
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Obslruction ol Fire Protectlon Equipmenl
Sec. 10.206. No person shall place or keeP any post. fence. vehiclc. Erowth.
tr-ash. storage or other material or thing near any fire hydrant. {ire dcpartmcnt
connection or ftrc protection systcm conrol valve that would prevent such
e4uipment or hydrant from being immediatcly discemible or in anyothcr manner
ditei or hinder the firc dePartment from gaining immediale access lo said
equipmentot hydrarlt. A minimum 3-fool clcarspace shall be maintaincd around
thecircumfercnce ofthe fire hydranls excePt as olherwise required or aPProved b!'
the chici
Access Roadways lor Fire Apparatus
Sec. 10.207. (a) Required Construction. Every building hereaftcr con-
sEucted shall be accessible to fire depanment apparatus by way of access road-
ways with all-weather driving surface of not less than 20 fect of unobstructcd
*idth, with adequate road\r:ay tuming radius caPable of suPPorting the imposed
loads of f|IE apparatus and having a minimum of 13 feet 6 inches of vertical
clearance. Dead-end fire depafiment access roads in excess of 150 feel long shall
be provided with approved provisions for the ruming around of fire dePartmen(
appanrtus.
EXCEPTION: 'tJvhen the't an nol more than tl.o CrouP R. Division 3 or M
Occupaicics as defincd in thc Building Cod.. lhc rEquitElEnl of this ssclion may be
nrodified uhen, in lheopinion of lhe chicf. fire_fi8hting or trscue operalionswould
not be impaired.
(b) Obstructing. The required width of access roadways shall not b€
obsructed in any manner. including parking of vehicles. NO PARKING silns ot
other appropriate notice,or both prohibiting obstructions may b€ required and
shall be maintained-
(c) Extent. The access roadway shall b€ exteDded to within 150 feet of all
portions of the exterior walls ofthe first story ofany building. Wherc the access
roadway cannot be provided. approved firc Protection system or systcms shall bc
provided as rrquircd and approved by the chiei
(d) Fir€-.p.olection Alternate. Where firc-protection systems approved by the
chief ale provided. th€ above requircd cleamnce may be modifled.
(e) Oversizing. The chief shall have the audority to require an increase in thc
minimum access widths where such width is not adequate for fire or rescue
operations.
(0 Bridges.'ffhere a bridge is requircd to be used as access underthis section'
it shall be constructed and maintained in accordance with the applicable sections
of the Buildin8 Code and using design live loading sufficient to carry the imposed
loads of the fire appararus.
Prorhlses ldenliticatlon
S€c. l0.2ltt. Approvcd numb€rs or addresses shall be placed on all nerv and
existing buildinSs i'l such a position as to be plainly visible and legible from the
stIret or road fronting the propeny. Said numbers shall contrast with their
backgrouod.
1982 EDlTloN
Key 8or
Scc. t0.209. When accels to or within a srucmre o:
because of secured openlngs or wherc immediale ac
saving or lire-fighting purposes. $e chief may require
rn accessible l(rallon The ke-v box shall be a type appt
contain keys to Sain necessary acccss as required by tf
Division lll
INSTALLATION AND MAINTENAI
PROTECTION, LIFE.SAFEW S}
APPLIANCES
tnsltllallon
Scc 10.301 . (a) IyF Requircd. The chief shall des
of fire appliances to be insralled and maintained in r
oremises in lhe jurisdlclion other thafl private dwE
rcording to the rclative s€verity of Probable firc. I
which it may spread. Such appliances shall be of a tyl
class of fire associated with such building or Premise!
&e chief.
Portable fire extinguishers shall be in accordance
IGI.
O) Special Hazards. In occupancies of an espe
where speciai hazards exist in addition to the normal I
where access for fire apparatus is unduly difficult, ad
required consisring of additional fire appliance uni
appliance. or special systems suitable for the protect
Such devices or appliances may consist of automatic f
ic sprinkler or water spnry systems. standpipe and t
cxtingluishers, suirable asbestos blankets, breathing .
matic covers. carbon dioxide, foam. halogenated r
special fire-extinguishing systems. Whcre such sys(e
be in accordance with the applicable Uniform Firc Co(
the National Fire hotection Association when Unifo
not applv.
(c) lvater Supply. AIl approved water supply caf
ire flow for fire protection shall be provided to all prc
or porliotrs of buildings are hercafter constructed.
building protected is in excess of 150 feet from a wat,
there shall be provided. when requLed by the chie
mains capable of supplying the required fire llow.
llater supply may consist of rcscrvoirs, prcssurc t
mains orotherfixed system capable ofsupplying the
$e.equircments ior fire flow' the chiefmay be guide
10.20&10.208
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CITY OF
EHINHISSEN
690 COULTEB DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937- 1900
}{EMORANDUM
TO: Planning Commiss ion
FROM: Larry Brown, Asst. City
DATE: March 9, 1988
Eng i neer
SUBJ: Preliminarlz Site PIan Revier'J of
Planning File No. 88-3 Site Plan
McGlynn Bakeries
BACKGROUND
On ltonday, February 22, 1988, the City Council gave their verbal
support (however, no action was taken) of the creatsion of a tax
increment district (TID) which would facilitate a public improve-
ment project to upgrade Audubon Road to an urban section from
StaEe Highway 5 to Ehe railroad overpass south of Park Road.
The developer has been advised that if the TID is established,
which would include the McGIynn site, the proposed entrance and
utsilities should be extended along the future proposed right-of-
ltray as shown on page 2 of the p1ans.
In the interest of time, the applicant's engineer has submitted a
site plan which is reasible without the TID having been
established. The applicant's engineer has staEed that they are
willing to work with the City in making the minor revisions to
the plans should the TrD be established.
The 18.5 acre site is located at Ehe southwest quandrant of the
intersection of State Highway 5 and Audubon Roail ( refer to
Attachrnent *l). Two-thirds of the site is composed of a culti-
vated field while the rernainder exists as a rolling open fie1d.
Sanitar Sewer
l,tunicipal sanitary sewer service is available to the site by an
existing I0-inch diameter sewer Iine located at the intersectionof Park Road and Audubon Road. The proposed portion of lo-inch
diameter sewer line which paralleIs Audubon Road will also faci-litate future sewer expansion for the properties located on the
northeast corner of Park Road anC Audubon Road.
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The proposed 8-inch diameter sanitary sewer line located south ofthe building will adequately provide service for proposecl andfuture additions. Plans which address the sanitary sewer serviceshould be submitted for approval by the City Engineer prior tofinal site plan review.
Planning Commi ss ion
March 9, 1988
Page 2
If the TID is established, the northerly accessextended west to t.he f ut.ure proposed access foras shown on Attachment *3.
Watermain
Municipal r/rater seh,er service is also available to the site by ane-isting 12-inch ciiameter watermain lvhich runs along the eastside of AuCubon Road. The proposed $ratermain has been loopedaround the site to address pressure,/flow conditions, fire protec-tion, and to facilitate future expansion if required. The appli-cantrs engineer has indicated that t.he watermain may be increasedto a 10-inch diameter pending calculations verifying adequatehrater demand and flow conditions for the building sprinklersystem. Calculations and final design should be submitted forapproval by the City Engineer prior to final site plan approval .
Roaderay/Access
The plans propose lhat two private driveway accesses beconstructed off of Audubon Road. Th,e 220 foot driveway on thenortheast corner of the site will be constructed in accordance tothe Cityrs standards for an urban roadway section. This willfacilitate the future proposed roadway, should the need occur.
road should bethe next addi tion
The existing drainage pattern can be characterized by overlandsheet flow radially outward from the center knol1. The prooosedplan ca11s for a detent ion,/sedimentat i on basin Iocated lres t ofthe site. The calculations provided by the applicantrs engineerverified that the pond maintains the predeveloped runoff riE.e aswell as provides adequaEe storage for a 100-year frequency stormevent.
Drainaqe
Gradinq and Erosion ConErol
The plans propose
fil1ed depths areIarge cut and f il1
on site.
massive grading of the entire site. Cut andin excess of 40 and 30 feet respectively. Thedepths are required to batance the earth$rork
The grading plan ca1ls for the removal of approximatelyThis is acceptable vrhen compared to the landscaping plancalls for 15 0+ trees-
20 trees.
which
Planning
March 9,
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Commi s s ion
1988
The plan adequately addresses the l-ocations of erosion control.
The City seandard details for the installation of Type I and TypeII erosion control should be shown on the grading plans.
Recommended Conditions
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Febr uary
Map
22, L988 City Council minutes
I. The developer shaI1 ent.er into a development contract withthe City and provitle adequate financial sureties t.o guaranteeproper instaLlation of these improvements.
2. t{ood fiber blankets or equivalent shalI be utilized to stabi-lize all disturbed slopes greater than 3:1.
3. Plans anC specifications for the construction of the sanitarysewer, watermain, storm sewer and sanitary services shall besubmitted for approval by the City Engineer prior to thefinal siEe plan review.
4. AII erosion control measures shall be in place prior to the
conmencement of any grading and once in place shall remain inplace throughout the duration of constsruction. The developeris required to review erosion control periodically and makethe necessary repairs prompts1y. All of the erosion control
measures sha1l remain intact until an established vegetative
cover has been produced, at which time removal shal1 be theresponsibility of the developer.
5. The applicant shal1 obtain permits and comply with all con-ditions from the DNR, Watershed District and any otherappropriate regulatory agency.
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City Courcil, !&eting - Fsruary 22, :rgga
9RTM QUALITY POLI T PLAN UPDATE, CITI PTANNER:
Barbara Dacy: rf you lrourd rike to nrake any cqments on the four major issuesor ad or subtract antrthing, please feel i.L-lo oo *.
E51m.Hit, rtm srrprised rhat Chaska is rpt a rnqnber of this grorp.
Barbara Dacy: that is correct.
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ltrey have been cuning to more neetings on thisissue, cr the sevrer Erot icry pran i. ; il-G;Lve not been contribulir,g toI.lr. Bolard 's exlEnses.
oourci lman Geving: the reason r ask t.at is r think rrve seen thqn there.
l'rayor Lamirton moved, councilman Horn secorrled to accept the four items of theIlbtropol itan courcil's water _Resourc." r,t";;;*1 chapter as outlined bv theCity planner. AIt voted in favor .J.oiioi "u..i.a-
AUDT'BSI ROAD REONSTRUSIION, CITY MrcINEER.
Don Ashworth: * *r:I ryrtion of the. report is wriEten by myself. I didhave Gary do a c.st e6tinate. rn fact it c,as
-running rate on Friday so myexample uses $7go,oag-60 as a total cost riqure ard again, the actual cost isestimated at $62s,sqq.g{ from t}e "di;;;:'-ile- question becornes one or, r.rilr\^re be looking to improving Audubon ao"O uoi a[-'wtrat ti",e f;;;--di;Industries is interested. in coning i"to errnirJ"""n. Ihey,re concerned hriththat exlErditure. They have seen
- trre uusinJ"!-p..X, in fact ttr. ttclynn wasout over the weekend, r just learned er,ur iJrv,-tuir;i ii.irl!" .?-jrrla(istirq business Dark- I tnink itis lai.;-Ly that ttEy are very impressedwith the existing iusiness parr ana. wouid-hope-tirat thgy,ll b" " 900a neighborto the cqrnuni ty ard again, Iocate in Cfraniiilsen. lsuld like to seedeveroSmenr srandards rt.Ior. rh"i. -;.;;r{-!i-ir.r
ro rhose rhar have beenset in the Business park itserf. ot^ con""ri isain to tt=n, is Audubon Roadwhich previously was old county noiJ it.-];,;';..oad$ray thar rhe county rurnedF"lt F !b gitv rearlv reavir! it in-it" .oJiti", rhar it was in advance ofthat turnback. Crearion or tai increment Ji.tii.t" ,r;-;;gri.;'.ail-oathirrys,.especiarJ.y in t"tvl: g.t il;;; iii:i rh;;..I-i-p..t$i=tl.would righrry and justly f;lr into u t i-in.i*"unE district, it is this one.t'tclynn's or other prorltl owners that *"ia grr"n.* p.op".ty oi #-p.op..tyon either side of Audubol, Road,-do noi ai.""[ri-u"nefit.frim tira;'r;;":r.I€gauy r're could assess thqn arrr sE c.urd i=."1" t,=" to .",r," "i.ui"loi *759. r think you e,,ourd find it ,.ry-airri.orf -io .rrtuin that assessrent.tlolitever, if you did rnake. that """""i*"nt, vo, r"ourd stirl t"u" il-Iiliinirrg253 or 5ot @, wtrich r.purd have t"-"r,=-Lli-rgiin"t the citizens as a khole.k!-,qr gnaiy:i? attempted to point ort ,r= t#i "= beirg a part of a taxlncrqnent district, if it can be reduced to " i-to 6 y€r IEriod of EinE, r.re infact will benefit arl of -our citizens-fi Joi.rg-it as a tax incrsnent district.l'lot' again, one of the urrierlying q,r""tiin" -;;om€s
one of the roadlray itserf?f .tu necessirv ro do rhar woix.' iLii-u"ii.r." tr,it-th"';..dH;l.ii.rr..rt is' that it cpuld be brought up to a g ton-riunau.d. but I ttr;.ni -r"e iie onrvroolirs ourserves if within ; s 6 il ;.;.;.;; "r iid; ,* "iiiiaE'Erinsins
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City Council I'Eeting - Eebruary 22, lggg
it rIg to urban stardards. Irm assunirg Gary is ready for any additional
ccrmlents regardirg the cpsts.
ttayor Hadlton: Urban stardards, you rEin by Ftting in curb artt gutter?
Don Astr$orth: Orrb ard gutter, stEeet tighting.
lbyor Hamilton: llcw much rrculd 1ou widen it?
carl, vlarlen: Yourd probably be looking at a 44 foot section.
I'layor tlailton: HcL, far south cEuld ere go? All tte rey down to CR 18?
Gary Warreo: Just to nerge wittr the approach to the railroad, wtrcre itrs just
south of the R:blic Works pro[Erty.
CourciLnan @ving: thatis an a<pensive piece for a short lrays. Is it only
about half a mile?
Gary librren: about 6,/10th's of a mile. $brre trying to be very generous rrith
our casts.
Courci lman Ceving: we couldnr t afford to do it any other r.{ay. the thing that
bothers rE is that, have you tal-ked to l,lccl)mn?
Don Ashvrorth: Yes.
Courci lnan Geving: Could this be a factor in uf,ether or not they actually
foLlow through ard cqre to Chanhassen or not?
Don AshhDrth: Ttrey have been very good to \^rork with. I thj.nk vrtren they saw
the total cost associated with bringing that road r{), theY were surprised
ttEmselves. Ttrey in rn uay said tlEt that eDuld rnake or break their alecision
but I think if r.re cane back ard said that we were going to assess that 75t or
LgqZ t I think they rpuld reassess their decision to ccme.
Courcitnan Geving: I€t me ask you about the timirg on there. Scinething I read
about April nas it? The TID, April 1?
Don Asherorti 3 There is a piece of legislation in front of the legislature
which would eliminate v*raE has been a clause tfiat allotrs construction within 3
monttrs of the creation of a tax incrsnent district. Rrght rrcw )rou can capture
that value. the State law change would say, they're eliminating that so if you
created a district, you t puld not capture any values for l8 months followirg
the date tlrat you adopted tie district.
@unci Iman ceving: Gr the other hand, if re created the district, letrs say in
tlardr, chances are it's goirg to take a good year before re rculd have lbclynnjn there or any other developer in there. You really r"auldn I t be talking about
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l,layor Hamilton: I know that Irm not too much irrcIined to $rant to create
another TID but I know the State is considering elirninatirq ttsn altogether
before long because they don't like thern at all but rre do need, that road is in
bad shape.
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I ffiJ:sr::**aed unril l99A r would suspecr. so the 18 monrhs really doesn, t
Ti}1h*:.q: E(c-epE iils frqn rhe date of the issuance of the buitdinqpemrt' rbclvnn does wanr ro move arong ro ti- p"int-"tr.;; il;;;i;"3""x "Hii3tl?_:"ilt;.:l i*.J:f to .roiy-ti*Zr,"J^J.* run" is prerer-airy-it-"-t,tr,"v
Courci lman Gevinq: , U"::1, Ehink ve,ve got any choice personally. I think $Iehave to establish a distrlct.
lra]ror Hamilton: I think foE a couple of reasons. I stop ard think of all theIlly" f did for Beddor ard their- whore a.""iog"..t ard that was a,. taxrrcrsnenr district arrr it's r"orked oui r.iiir-Grr. rccrv"n-i"-I.inlifr ou", upart of their operation... r think ir t*-,*a"'tt.t ioua-Jil= ".lrii^]il'lno**thqn we rirea to rcrk with. ti,*" ""J-r*;ir;.1i* to be here, il,s certainry agood olportunity to move_ the .".t or in ii^oLr*uaron over here at scme time. rc€rtainly rould Iike to accomplish that.
counci lman Horn: Are there any other areas that staff vrourd recomerrr to setup as a district o. .." j:::.-?ai.g i" pi;il;i'this thinsa rt seqns to rE r"eshould look at the whole rssue.
courci lman Geving: can ere bring it au the back to the new cR 17? create ane$' district there because we'r6 going t"'Llip"rging the irrlustrial park, rroould hope, frqn where s,e r re at .ii-H.-;;"[f ao ooauuon.
Don Asfterorth: you could exterd it aU the !,,ay doldt to L!,man Blvd. , yes.
courci,nan Geving: r'm not rhinking that far down. r was thinking just thatnarrow banl alonq ttE road. ercrn d rz-""i- d-euauuon. ehost w6eie vre !,ouldbuiId a new roadl rhe extension oi r.-t.'ili".L"a.
Don Ashworth: Actuauy, that is within tax incrsnent district #r.
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when lte discuss this issue.
nkj.ng more s.oecifically the area to include TH I0l.these potential distriits rn one group if we could
Don Ash$rorth: I don't know if you could establish a district.
'ave a IErceIl:t"- Pl*rrv the improvenents go alorg with ttle parcels. r don,t know ifyou courd have tlre parcel fron *,;lcn youire--*ri."ti"g;;iu.-.;",hJ"irou,."9o1rg to skip over a mile arrl make th6 ;*G;i;;r". I
@urci lman }torn: I rm not suggesting that . I ,m saying, if rre, re going toestablish one district tere,. rrourd [hre ue ottl. ur"u" lihere re reuld want toestablish districts. r,d lik" to "*--ir1r"iti" p.opo"als at onoe so ne get
;n5iltof:[r*ern rather than just ;[ rh;-;="fr., *. re*s rook at Ehe
Counci ljnan C€ving: Don, r^rould this be the district here?
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City oourcil tGeting - February 22, ]rggg
Mayor Hamilton: thatrs outside the MUSA.
Don Ashr.rorth: As far as tte road improvanent itself, it could be consideredaII the ray down though. you just qDuldn't have sanitary sewer.
l,layor tlanilton: But hrhy include it in the distlict then?
Don Ashkorth: qtly to the extent that the Council would feel that this sectionof Audubon is going to have to be utgraded at scme point in time...
Don Ashtrorth: !€ will try to take ard get it dor,,,n as quickly as $e can. The
legal rbtice section is v*rat Irm worried about.
l,rayor Hamilton: I think youtve got unanirnous agreqnent.
Don Ashworth: qpically the l,tayor has met wit}r myself at the erd where we have
co pleted the overall position classification process. I !,,ould anticipate tlrat
the @urcil wanEs to follow a similar procedure. If that's the case, he hrouldpresent this item then on our first meeting in lbrch.
@urcilman Horn: Are you the only one who takes a shot at it?
Mayor Harnilton: No, everlMy does. I write it up ard go through it with Don
ard then if sonebody lrants to add or delete they can do that.
Courci lman Geving: Is it your idea Torn that r.'e would fill out these anl give
ttlqn to !'ou?
Don Ashworth: I believe the parcel is this entire parcel, i,ras it not Barbara?
So yes, thatrs the only section tltat had that.
@unci lman @virlg: ft's too bad in a way because don't you actually have as
much adninstrative l*'3rk in creating that go acres as you would if y6u rcre toexpard for a much larger area? I donrt know where the MtrSA cqnes in there butit sesns to me t.e could cqne all tlre t*ly south even though there are hcrnes downthere next to G 18.
l,tayor fbmilton: I think r're've done that jn the past. UsualLy fill one out arrlI think everybody's gotten tlre one that I filled out ard seen my crorments on
ttEre.
@urci lman @ving: I€ could pick r.p the c!st.
Don Ast[dorth: ore thirg about a district ard bringing the thinq back, tbe City
Counci I can always cut it back. ltre only concern I l{Duld have is that theApril 1 date is j$portant. If the Attorney te1ls rtE I can't get everything
done, if you ask us to do all of this, then I wiu give hirn guidance to just
focus in on the one section he can get done.
Mayor fhmilton: Bring it back next meeting.
posrTroN crassrFrcATroN pr.AN, F ,,aLrzE 1988 REvrE'!'r pRocEss.
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The purpose of this supplementary narrative ls to provide additionalinforma tion on both the company and the proposed new tacility. McclynnBakeries ms foun&d in 1919 by James T. Mccl.ynn in ttinneapolis. Ihe cq@anyis presently headqtErtered in E&n prairle, hoh\ever, upon iompletion of thenew faciJ-ity, the headquarters operation rvill be relocated to Chanhassen.McGlynn Bakeries presently employs approximately 900 people with storesloca ted in five states. sares for fiscal 198? rerg s67 million and projectadsales for 1988 are $80 million.
Tte facility in chanhassen is being proposed to ac-c\crnfirda te clcrnpany grorrth andrpre efficient operations. rts primary purpose will be to hou; r6d uarinqoperat.ions and corporate offices. Ttre retail baking operation prepares a fuliline of traditional bakery products such as breadi, buns, -di-nner rolls,donuts, coffee cakes, cookies, pies anl cakes. koducts are sord in over 90stores including Daytons, Target., super valu, Rainbow Foods and locations inmajor retail stnpping c€nters.
I'lccrynn Bakeries presentry oms 70 acres in chanhassen. rt is likely that inthe future, the site will hcr:se tho J'lccl ynn plants, the first being the onethat is currentry being proposed and uhe second being a futuie-irozenproducts facility approximatery 150,000 sguare feet in size.- These facilitieswirl utilize approximatery one harf of the site and the rema inder will beeventually sold for other industriaL uses.
l,lcclynn Bakeries is seeking siEe plan and corditional use permit approval toestablish a new facility in the City of Chanhassen. The Mcclynn site islocated in t.he southirest corner of Ehe intersection of T.H. 5 and AudubonRoad. Ihe property totals 70 acres.
The ,proposed retail plant consists of a 152,000 sguare foot building with atrc level office area ard a single story planE witn high ceiling cle"arance.The facility is loca ted at the south end of the properEy with trc entrancesoff of Audubon Road. The southernmost entrance serves a 161 car parking 1oeutrich will acrcrn[Dda te product ion employees. The northern entran@ witt oe aprieate &ive (constructed to full city street standards ) with an entranc€ Eortrucks ani an access tc the office employee and visitor parking areas that areloca ted at. the southr€st coryler of Ehe building. At. tire preisent time, theproperty is not being platted, therefore, the entrance &ive is being built tocity street standards Eo accqnfl')date its eventual extension and plitting aspublic rightrcf-rey.
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General Ollices:
7752 Mitche Road
Eden Prairie, Minn. 55344 +1
Phone 612.937.9404
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The northern and easEern sides of the proposed building contain shipping and
receiving areas. The docks on Ehe north side hardle shipping ard receiving ofsupplies wtrich are transported primarily by over the road trucks.
Additionally, bulk flour ard sugEr tinks are loca ted in this area. The bulk
facilities are replenished on a daily basis. Ihe dock area oo the east siCeof the building will bre used exclusively by company owned vehicles. Trucks
using these docks are irwolved in the shiErent of products Eo retail outleEs
r*rictr occurs primarily betr€en 2:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m. AE Ehe presenE t.ime,
Mcclynn Bakeries opera tes 12 ccnpany ome.l trucks.
The Chanhassen facility will enploy a total of approximately 200 people with a
maximum employee count of 150 during any one shift. Three product ion shifEswill operate at. the Chanhassen plant. Hours oE operation are staggered
eliminating peaks in arival arri departure Eimes o[ production employees.
TtE ardritectural ard engineerirg dra wings portray the deta ils of the location
and appearance of the proposed plant. The buildinq will consist of precast
panel construct.ion, gray in color with gneen accent.s. The southern mll of
t,he building r*rich houses the offices hdll clnta in extensive glass affording
viers over the ponding area at the southern erd of the site. Ttre building and
parking perimeter areas rrill be extensively landscaped including undergro:nd
sprinkler systelns. The shipping dccks on the east side of the site will be
screened by both berm ing ard plant neterials.
The reEail plant facility has been designed Eo accommodate both phase tvo
Mc€lynn operations anC future develogrent, on the north end of the properEy.
Irlhen phase tro is built, the driveroy now serving the offic€ prking 1ot will
be reoriented Eo a new entrancra drive. This r*ill result in the termination of
its connection to Ehe porEion of the drive serving the t.I'D Eruck dock areas.
Eventually, it is envisicned that Ehe entrance drive off of Audubon Road will
be constructed as a loop street providing access Eo the northern portion of
Ehe property.
lfcclynn Bakeries is enEhusiasEic about uhe propose'J development, in Chanhassen.
It r{i1l be an attractive, sta te-of - t.he-a rE production plant serving both
corpora t,e needs and providing expanded Eax base and employrent opportunities
to Ehe City of chanhassen.
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SECTION 2. CONDMIONAL USE PE R]!{TTS3-2J Purpc.. Cooditionel us6 indudc lhos€ ut s which ar. nor.d yithin thc zonins dinn.i bur whid may uod6 s.m.bc suilablc. Th. applicanr shall hav. lhc burdcn of proof thar lhc ;i5 suirable e.d thal rhc sandar&sa fofih in rht S.critl haec b..n Da3-2-2 Application, public H.a ring, Noricc ad Proc.durc. Th.applicadon.$bli. h.arinr, p'rbtic notic! and pro.adur! r.qutdncnt for condi onatth. !am. ai rho.. foa amandmax!AnicL lU, Srdioo I src.F that lll pc.mn shal bc
majonly of rh. cnrjr. Coun it.Alhoush sp.rificuir.d to compleE ar applicatioo forry llirh rh. rpEific us. and rhc dilrrica in which ir irloc:tcd, all applicariotrr for sudr p.rmit! lnus inclu(h ar mioimum asitc pLn tha t cLarly illurra@s $. fouow in8: propG.drad tI! buitdirsmappiq,nd funclions, circt alioo aDd planriD8 ar€asaEd u.atmant siSn locarion. and ryp., batic lighring
aiotrlhip of rhc propos.d projcd to n.idboruS ui6, .nvrrorun.nrat im-pact! and (kmand for Municil-2-J Srrndards. Th. ptannins Commission sha0 r.comhard a onditio.atus. p.rm and lh courcii shall issuc sud condilional u!.!.rmiB onlvrh. propo6.d location:
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SECTION ., BUILDING PERMITS, CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY,FEES3+l BuitdinS p.'mil!.
l. No raa3oo 3hall _6cct, oatrrud, altaa, cnlarSc, Gpair, tDort cEeovc, any buirdiru a lruer- or p"rr rt .*i ,iiir,lrii"n-.-,rilinr r buildinS p.irir.
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Tlng guouro aod d.. buildin! ro bc .rcEt!d, off-."; p.rti";.Dd (ladhS f.cilitic. rd sudr o(hq iDform.rioI [lay b. d..B:Gd Errsary by 6. Ciry to da.rmi& coEptur.. win ,f,f. "ra-Ji,trtrd us ordinrnc.s, No buitding p.nni shall b. l'rla f_ ."*i"in.connid wirh $. Fovrsio. "r uir oa;"-.*.-iFii rlt iii""l..buildirg pcrmh ont alrq dcrmming uar ,r" +pii_r."i,i
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r. Apptrcauoo for. ccnifrcaa. of ccupanc] shall b€ madc ro rb. Cnvas pan ot u'. appucarion for r buitding pcrmu. A ccnificatc of oc,-.upancy shal b. tsucd by rhc Ciry f"u.*,"s ;r;d; ;.buitdins p€rnir acrivrry ald
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690 COULTER DRIVE ' P.O. BOX 147 ' CHANHASSEN, MINNESOTA 55317
(612) 937-1900
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CITY OF
MEMORANDUM
TO: JoAnn Olsen, Assistant City Planner
FROM: Lori Sietsema, Park and Recreation Coordinato"r.
hr,DATE: March 10, 1988
RE: Park and Recreation Commission Action on Mcclynn Bakeries
Site PIan
The Comprehensive PIan does not identi€y this area as being park
deficient as it is not a residential araa and is close to Lake
Ann Park. The trail plan calls for lrail alignments along
Audubon Road, which will be scheduled for upgrading as the area
develops. Gary warren, City Engineer, has indicated that the 66
foot rlght-of-way may noE be sufficient to accommodate a trail
and suggested obtaining an additional easement. The trail plan
also cills for a trail along Ehe north side of TE 5, i'rhich does
not affect this proposal .
It is che recommendaEion of Ehe Park anal Recreation Commission to
accept park dedication fees in lieu of parkland and to require a
20 foot trail- easement along the irest side of Audubon Road. As
trail construction rould not be reguired, it is recommenaled that
no trail dedication credit be given.
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I.AND DEVETOP!{ANT APPLIGATION
CITT OF CEANEASSETf
590 Coulter Drive- ; - ChanhasseD, MN 55317(612) 937-1900
CITINER :
ADDRESS
Same
TELEPHONE
APPLICANT :
ADDRES S
Mcclynn Bakeries, Inc.
7752 Mitchell Road
Eden Prairie, MN 55344
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TELEPHONE (Daytime) 937 -9404
rP code
REQI,'EST:
Zoning District Change
Zoning Appeal
Zoning Variance
Zoning Text Amendment
Iand Use PIan Amendment
Planned Unit Development
_ sketch Plan
_ Preliminary Plan
_ Final Plan
Subdivi s ion
_ Platting
_ Metes and Bounds
Street/Easement Vacat ion
Wetlands Permit
PROJECT NA.I,IE Mcc] w n Baker ies
PRESENT LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATION Industrial
REOUESTED LAND USE PLAN DESIGNATION No change
PRESENT ZONING Indu strial Office Park Distr icr (roP)
No chanseREQT'ESTED ZONING
USES PROPOSED Bakery PlanE.Offices and Warehou SE
PROPERTY 69.7 acresSIZE OF
I.,OCATION
REASONS
Sou thl'est ouadra udubon Road/ T.It. 5nt-A
FPR THIS REQUEST DCWE 1op New Fac i L itv
LEGAL DESCRfPTION (Attach legal if necessary)S ee a t tached
Zip Code
Conditional use permit(")/
^.?site Plan Review !i6' ?