03.21.2023 Planning CommissionCHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
MARCH 21, 2023
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Noyes called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. He noted he will adjust the agenda and
begin with the Administrative Presentation.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Eric Noyes, Erik Johnson, Perry Schwartz, Edward Goff, Kelsey
Alto, Ryan Soller.
MEMBERS ABSENT: None.
STAFF PRESENT: Bob Generous, Senior Planner; Olivia Adomabea, Community
Development Intern, Mackenzie Young-Walters, Associate Planner; Sharmeen Al-Jaff, Senior
Planner; Eric Maass, Planning Director, Water Resources Engineer Joe Seidl.
PUBLIC PRESENT:
Tim and Nancy Crain 1956 Andrew Court
Michael Huber 8976 Southwest Village Loop
Len Simich Southwest Transit
Matt Fyten Southwest Transit
Leigh Stoakes Xcel Energy
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATION
Planning Director Eric Maass invited Sharmeen Al-Jaff forward noting she has served the
community for 32 years, spanning 5 decades, and he commends her for her work and for all she
has done for the City of Chanhassen and its residents. He thanked her and shared this will be Ms.
Al-Jaff’s last Planning Commission meeting as a staff member.
Chair Noyes congratulated Ms. Al-Jaff on her retirement.
Ms. Al-Jaff stated it has been an honor and a pleasure serving the residents of the community.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. 746 CARVER BEACH ROAD - CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE TO
BUILD A POOL, FENCE, AND RETAINING WALLS
Community Development Intern Adomabea gave a summary of the staff report noting the
applicant is requesting to build a pool, fence, and retaining walls within the require bluff setback
and impact zone. The plat was recorded in 1927, zoned single-family residential, with a lot cover
of 18.8% which is lower than the required 25%. The home was constructed prior to the city’s
bluff ordinance and has numerous non-conforming features. The applicant is asking to rebuild
existing retaining walls in poor condition, construct a swimming pool at the current location of a
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concrete patio, and reinstall fencing that is in poor condition. Staff recommends the retaining
wall request is approved. Regarding the pool, it would be an expansion from 240 square feet of
the concrete patio with a 275 square-foot pool apron, which would add to the lot cover
calculation. Although the project will create an expansion, it is already within the disturbed area
within the bluff and will not exceed the 25% lot cover, hence staff recommends approval of the
pool request. Regarding fencing, the existing fence on the southern property extends beyond the
property line and the applicant wants to resolve that and pool fencing is required by code. Staff
recommends approval of the fencing request. Given that the majority of the applicant’s rear-yard
is encumbered by the bluff and that the portion in question has already been disturbed, Staff
believes the applicant’s request is reasonable. The applicant has revised the original proposal to
add 10 square feet and 35 square feet of new impervious surfaces within the bluff setback, and it
has its genesis in the circumstances associated with the home's age and the property's
topography.
Commissioner Schwartz asked if the existing disturbance has modified the integrity of the bluff.
Ms. Adomabea stated that the applicant indicated that the retaining wall is failing due to erosion.
If the bluff had not been disturbed, erosion would not have been a problem on the property.
Commissioner Schwartz asked if the construction of the apron will further disturb the integrity of
the bluff.
Ms. Adomabea replied in the negative noting the boundary of the proposed pool is not within the
bluff area.
Mr. Young-Walters noted in talking about disturbance of the bluff, it is very clear that during
development they leveled-off a bit of the northwest portion of the bluff to create the building pad
and used a series of retaining walls. Some of those walls are not in great condition so part of the
application is to repair and re-stabilize those walls. Regarding the pool, they will be replacing a
deteriorating boulder wall with a new concrete wall that would shore up that portion of the slope
and improve the property from a stability standpoint.
Chairman Noyes opened the public hearing. There were no public comments.
Chairman Noyes closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Alto moved, Commissioner Goff seconded that the Chanhassen Board of
Appeals and Adjustments approves the variance request to construct a swimming pool,
retaining walls, and a fence within the required bluff setback and impact zone, subject to
the conditions of approval and adopts the attached Findings of Facts and Decision. All
voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0.
2. SOUTHWEST VILLAGE - PUD AMENDMENT AND SITE PLAN AMENDMENT
TO ALLOW A MULTITENANT USER AND A DRIVE THROUGH FOR A COFFEE
SHOP, 680 SOUTHWEST VILLAGE DRIVE
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Senior Planner Generous gave a summary of his written report noting the applicant is requesting
an amendment of an existing PUD to permit a coffee shop with a drive-through, an amendment
to sign requirements, and site plan approval for a 12,600 square foot multi-tenant commercial
building. The plan is very consistent with commercial development seen in the community, is
guided for mixed-use, and Mr. Generous gave history of the property and existing buildings upon
it. Regarding signage, the applicant proposes a sign at the location of the drive-through, which
would need to be non-illuminated and a monument sign one foot taller than permitted. Staff does
not support this amendment. The applicant held a neighborhood meeting and Mr. Generous
heard that it went well and that neighbors were in favor of the project. He shared about site-plan
review of the building, coffee shop, and drive-through area noting access is from Great Plains
Boulevard and Lyman Boulevard. As part of the development, the applicant would provide storm
water improvements and an emergency fire access. The city has worked extensively with the
architect on an interesting, architecturally pleasing design.
Water Resources Engineer Seidl shared about stormwater and water routing on the existing
property noting that minimal grading is needed to facilitate construction of the site. The design
utilizes three separate storm water BMPs (Best Management Practices) to treat and detain
stormwater before discharge. He noted some concerns from staff regarding the proposed
irrigation and reuse system in that it does not seem the system is large enough to store the water
needed to properly irrigate the area. Staff is asking the applicant for additional information and
potentially adjusting the design.
Mr. Generous stated staff recommends approval of the amendment to the PUD for mixed-use
development and approval of the site-plan for a 12,600 square foot commercial building with
drive-through coffee shop.
Commissioner Schwartz encourages the use of clean energy or alternative energy sources within
the building.
Commissioner Alto noted the parking lot would have street lighting and she does not think a lit
sign would be any brighter than what the lot currently is.
Mr. Generous noted the PUD currently prohibits illuminated signs to the south and that would
need to be changed. It also only permits signs on walls that are entrances or street frontage.
Commissioner Soller clarified the motion as written would not allow for the illuminated light
facing south or the monument sign expansion.
Mr. Generous replied in the affirmative.
Commissioner Goff asked if they have looked at traffic impacts in the area, and with the
Southwest Transit buses.
Mr. Generous replied in the affirmative noting a traffic study was done on the project and there
are fewer trip generations than originally proposed as part of the estimate. There were no
conflicts and level of service will not be degraded.
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Commissioner Soller asked to look at the overhead of the drive-through noted he has been
impacted by poorly designed drive-throughs and wants to be sure this is situated properly. He
thinks it looks quite sensible.
Len Simich, representing the owner, was a former CEO of Southwest Transit. He introduced
Matt Fyten, the interim CEO at Southwest.
Matt Fyten noted this transit-oriented development is a great project and they are excited about
it.
Mr. Simich noted regarding environmental sustainability, the plans already have a lot including
geothermal wells, landscaping, pavers, and there are some federal grants that will help, also.
Mr. Fyten shared they have been active in sustainability space and have received over $11
million in federal funds over the last year for various sustainability activities. On this site they
will install five EV charging stations within the parking ramp and are looking at a raised solar
roof on the top-level deck of the parking ramp.
Commissioner Alto asked whether the lawn could be a pollinator habitat rather than just sod.
Mr. Simich replied they can look at that noting the goal is to be as efficient as possible without
damaging the aesthetics and they are open to anything. He asked the Commission to get specific
requests to them and they will try to work those in. He shared about other sustainability pieces
they will incorporate including LED lights on the site, the irrigation system, rainwater
harvesting, and occupancy sensors to cut back on electricity use. Mr. Simich stated Southwest is
here to work with the city and comply with them. He shared about a multi-use patio on the site
and access for emergency services.
Chairman Noyes opened the public hearing.
Michael Huber is in favor of solar panels on the roof and the EV charging stations. He has
previously mentioned putting solar panels on the roof would hide the HVAC units. He is in favor
of not having illuminated lighting on the site and he was concerned about the traffic and the
homeowners association being responsible for part of the shared roadways. He does not know if
the association can renegotiate due to the increased traffic going into the coffee shop.
Chairman Noyes closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Schwartz is encouraged to hear about the alternative energy items the applicant is
proposing and wishes something was embedded in City Code that made it a requirement.
Commissioner Noyes asked to discuss signage on the site.
Commissioner Alto spoke about the monument noting it is only one foot to be in compliance.
Regarding the coffee shop sign, most traffic is in the morning or during the day and people will
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know it is there whether there is a lighted sign or not. She is okay with the sign as long as it is
not lit and meets the city brand standards for signage.
Commissioner Johnson agrees that a lighted sign is not necessary. Regarding adding height to
the monument, is it really necessary as the buildings will also have signs on them and will be
seen from the road.
Commissioner Schwartz noted an illuminated sign indicates that a business is open. In the winter
when it gets darker at 4:00 p.m. it could suggest to customers that the businesses are not open.
Commissioner Goff stated the way it reads now the two sign variances are not included. If
approved, it will get the Applicant off and running and the Commission may see them again for a
sign variance. It was mentioned that the applicant has worked closely with the city. He would be
in favor of moving forward with the motion as-is.
Mr. Generous noted the applicant is allowed to have a lighted sign on the east and west
elevation. It is the south elevation that is directly facing residential that is prohibited because
there is no entrance and it is not street frontage.
Commissioner Schwartz moved, Commissioner Soller seconded the Chanhassen Planning
Commission recommends approval of Southwest Village Planned Unit Development (PUD)
Mixed-Use, Transit-Oriented Development PUD, Amendment Ordinance, and site plan
approval for a 12,600 square foot one-story commercial building with a drive-through
coffee shop as shown in plans dated February 17, 2023, subject to the conditions of
approval, and adopts the Findings of Fact and Recommendation. All voted in favor and
the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0.
3. XCEL SERVICE CENTER- REZONING FROM A-2 TO PUD, SITE PLAN REVIEW
AND WETLAND ALTERATION PERMIT, 1891 ARBORETUM BOULEVARD
Senior Planner Generous gave a summary of the Staff report noting the Applicant is requesting a
rezoning from Agricultural Estate District to Planned Unit Development Office Industrial PUD,
as well as site plan approval and wetland alteration permit for development on the site. The land
use plan has guided it for office industrial use on the north side, and Mr. Generous shared about
topography and wetlands on the site. This PUD is specifically for the Xcel Service Center which
defines five buildings, parking lot, storage buildings, and a communications tower. Mr. Generous
noted a maintenance building for the servicing of boom trucks that will be extended 55 feet in
the air. He shared about sewer, water, storm water treatment, an outdoor storage area on the site,
and walked the Commissioners through the proposed design. The top of the vehicle storage
building will be constructed and designed to install solar panels at a later time. Mr. Generous
shared about architectural design, sidewalks, an employee patio area, lighting, and landscaping.
Water Resources Engineer Seidl stated this is a very challenging and complex site regarding
stormwater design and water resources. There are two wetlands on site, as well two waters of the
U.S. under Army Corps of Engineers jurisdiction, which are a tributary to Bluff Creek, and a
tributary to the tributary of Bluff Creek. He also noted a 42-inch culvert that conveys water to
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wetland 2, and very steep grades. He spoke about documented erosion problems on the site, as
well as grading and erosion control plans with installation of retaining walls, erosion and
sediment control plans, and stormwater design including BMPs to maintain existing drainage
patterns on the site. Mr. Seidl gave detail on the wetland alteration permit, noting it is a vigorous
process and the applicant worked with the city on revised designs, the City of Chanhassen and
the Army Corps of Engineers also need to approve the permit, and explained the process of
wetland mitigation banks and credits.
Mr. Generous noted staff recommends approval of the rezoning and site plan approval for the
five buildings, communication tower and screen, outdoor storage, and wetland alteration permit
subject to the conditions of approval and adoption of the Findings of Fact and Recommendation.
Commissioner Schwartz asked why it is not possible to mitigate the wetland on the property or
within the City of Chanhassen.
Mr. Seidl noted that is a great question that he also asked. He noted it has been proven that
smaller wetland mitigation projects are not very successful, and the Army Corps of Engineers
would not approve an application showing wetland mitigation on site. This is what was approved
by the Technical Evaluation Panel and it is common. He clarified the process of purchasing
wetland credits in the State.
Commissioner Goff asked if the entire site will be fenced.
Mr. Generous replied the yard area will have security fencing with gates.
Commissioner Schwartz asked if any yard lighting will adversely affect the townhomes to the
south.
Mr. Generous replied they should not as they will all be directed on site with a 90-degree cutoff.
Leigh Stoakes, Project Engineer with Xcel Energy, explained the goal of the project is to
combine the Waconia and Shorewood Service Centers into a single site. This site in Chanhassen
met their criteria, and although it is a very challenging site, he thinks it will be an asset to the city
and will provide a critical service.
Chairman Noyes opened the public hearing.
Nancy Crain lives just west of the development and shared concerns regarding the lighting. She
noted the Coulter Boulevard is at a high point in Chanhassen and everything goes down to the
south. If they go up 60 feet it will probably clear the tree line and have visibility for quite a
distance. The idea of having a lighted sign on the building runs counter to the way the residential
neighborhood feels with marshland, the creek, woods, and wildlife. She uses her deck in the
evening and enjoys a dark night sky. She thinks the impact on residents is worth considering and
she hopes they will not have a lighted sign on the building.
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Tim Crain noted they live in the townhouse units and spoke about a berm with some trees but
noted the high point is where this facility will be and there will be some light pollution from the
sidewalk and parking lot lights which will filter down into the backyards of some residents. He
shared Ms. Crain’s concern about the light from the sign on the 60-foot building noting the light
will project and residents will see that from their properties. He noted he went to the open house
and said the building looks nice, the land looks nice, they are keeping much of the area natural,
but his main concern is lighting and light pollution.
Mr. Stoakes commented on the lighting noting they are proposing two signs, one on the north
facing Highway 5 and they would like to have that lit. The sign on the south side, which would
be on the fleet garage, is a secondary sign and because it is facing a residential area, the
advantage to have it lit is not there. He noted in this case the secondary sign does not have to be
lit and he stated they want to be a good neighbor and not a nuisance.
Commissioner Schwartz asked Ms. Crain if that sign was not illuminated would it satisfy their
concern?
Ms. Crain replied in the affirmative, noting it would.
Chairman Noyes closed the public hearing.
Mr. Generous suggested the Commissioners memorialize the condition regarding the secondary
sign, noting that will also help city staff with direction in the future.
Commissioner Alto moved, Commissioner Goff seconded the Chanhassen Planning
Commission recommends approval of Planning Case #2023-01 Xcel Service Center,
including rezoning the Planned Unit Development Office Industrial Park PUD, site plan
approval for five buildings, a communication tower, and screened outdoor storage, with the
agreement that any south-facing signage will not be lit, and a wetland alteration permit
subject to the conditions of approval, and adopts the Findings of Fact and
Recommendation. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6
to 0.
GENERAL BUSINESS: None.
APPROVAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES DATED MARCH 7, 2023:
Commissioner Goff noted the summary Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting
dated March 7, 2023 as presented.
ADJOURNMENT:
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Commissioner Johnson moved to adjourn the meeting, Commissioner Soller seconded. All
voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 6 to 0. The Planning
Commission meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
OPEN DISCUSSION
Submitted by Eric Maass
Planning Director