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P.O. Box 147 JUN 0 6 2005
Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317
CHANryASSEN PLANNING DEPT
RE: Miscellaneous Recorded Variances
Dear Kim:
Enclosed for your files please find the following recorded variances:
• Sign Variance 2002-5 for the REMAX ACTION WEST building which was
recorded on 09/11/03 as Document No. A365865.
• Variance 2003-15 for Lot 5, Block 1, Chanhassen Lakes Business Park 7d,
Addition (8170 Upland Circle) which was recorded on 07/23/04 as Document
No. T147602.
• Variance 2003-16 and CUP 2003-8 for Lot 20, Block 2, The Meadows at
Longacres Second Addition (7474 Moccasin Trail) which was recorded on
03/24/04 as Document No. A382455.
• Variance 2003-17 for Lot 2, Block 1, Colonial Grove at Lotus Lake (114 Sandy
Hook Rd) which was recorded on 04/07/04 as Document No. T145315.
• Variance 2003-18 for Lot 16, Block 1, Greenwood Shores (6900 Utica Lane)
which was recorded on 06/18/04 as Document No. T146888.
• Variance 04-07 for Lots 17 and 18, Block 4, Red Cedar Point Lake Minnewashta
(3637 South Cedar Drive) which was recorded on 07/26/04 as Document No.
A392683.
• Variance 04-11 for Carver Beach Lots 2322-2326 (795 Ponderosa Drive) which
was recorded on 07/15/04 as Document No. T147407.
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• Variance 04-16 for Lot 4, Block 1, Bluff Creek Estates 5'" Addition (8634 Valley
View Court) which was recorded on 06/18/04 as Document No. A389723.
Variance 04-19 for Lots 24 & 25, Shore Acres (9217 Lake Riley Boulevard)
which was recorded on 08/06/04 as Document No. T147845.
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
VARIANCE 04-11
1. Permit. Subject to the terms and conditions set forth herein, the City of Chanhassen
hereby grants the following variances:
Lot area variance from the required 15,000 square feet for the construction of a
single-family residence on a 7,932 square -foot lot zoned RSF as shown on plans
dated 2/12/04.
2. Property. The variance is for property situated in the City of Chanhassen, Carver
County, Minnesota, and legally described as follows:
795 Ponderosa Drive, Carver Beach Lots 2322-2326
3. Conditions. The variance approval is subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant must submit a building permit before construction.
2. The single-family residence must meet required setbacks.
3. Applicant meets the conditions of Ordinance No. 317 (Building Regulations).
4. A tree removal plan that clearly shows all trees, 6" and larger, and their designation as
removed or saved. The lot may not be clear-cut.
5. Tree protection fencing must be installed prior to any work commencing around all
saved trees. Fencing shall remain in place until construction is completed.
6. The applicant shall plant two overstory, deciduous, 2-1/2" diameter trees.
4. Lapse. If within one (1) year of the issuance of this variance the allowed
construction has not been substantially completed, this variance shall lapse.
Dated: April 12, 2004
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a Minnesota municipal corporation, on behalf of the corporation and pursuant to authority granted
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CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
FINDINGS OF FACT
AND RECOMMENDATION
IN RE: The application of Thomas and Erica Koehnen, 795 Ponderosa Drive
(Lots 2322-2326, Carver Beach) Variance No. 04-11
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On March 16, 2004, the Chanhassen Planning Commission met at its regularly scheduled
meeting to consider the application of Thomas and Erica Koehnen for a 7,068 square foot
variance to Section 20-615(1) and a 3.6 percent maximum lot coverage variance to Section 20-
615(4) of the Chanhassen City Code for the purpose of constructing a home at 795 Ponderosa
Drive.
The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing on the proposed development which was
preceded by published and mailed notice. The Planning Commission heard testimony from all
interested persons wishing to speak and now makes the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The property is currently zoned RSF, Residential Single -Family.
2. The property is guided by the Land Use Plan for Residential, Low Density.
3. The legal description of the property is: Part of Carver Beach Section 1, Township
116, Range 23, Lots 2322-2326.
4. The Planning Commission shall not grant a variance unless they find the following
facts:
• Staff conducted a survey within 500 feet of the surrounding area and discovered
that the average lot size is 13,586 square feet. There are a number of lots within
500 feet that have a smaller area than the subject lot. The proposed home meets
the required setbacks and would be similar in size to existing residences.
Without a variance, the applicant would be denied reasonable use of his
property.
• The condition upon which this petition for a variance is based is applicable to
other properties within the same zoning classification outside of the immediate
area. Staff conducted a survey within 500 feet of the surrounding area and of the
54 parcels within 500 feet of said property the average lot size as a whole is
13,586 square feet. Whereas the smallest lot was 3,049 square feet and the
largest was 38,768 square feet.
• This does not appear to be the case. The applicant is simply attempting to utilize
the parcel for single-family residential uses it was created for.
• The hardship is not self-created. The parcel is an existing lot of record.
• The granting of the variance will not be detrimental or injurious to other land or
improvements in the neighborhood, meets all RSF District standards except for
impervious surface.
• The granting of the variance will allow a reasonable distance from adjacent
properties. The applicant has demonstrated that all setbacks required by the City
Code can be met. It will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to those
properties, nor will it increase the congestion of the public streets or increase the
danger of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially diminish or impair
property values within the neighborhood.
RECOMMENDATION
""The Planning Commission approve Variance #04-11 for a lot area variance from the required
15,000 square feet, for the construction of a single-family residence on a 7,932 square -foot lot,
zoned RSF as shown on plans dated 2/12/04, with the following conditions:
1. The applicant must submit a building permit before construction.
2. The single-family residence must meet required setbacks.
3. Applicant meets the conditions of Ordinance No. 317.
4. A tree removal plan that clearly shows all trees, 6" and larger, and their designation as
removed or saved. The lot may not be clear-cut.
5. Tree protection fencing must be installed prior to any work commencing around all saved
trees. Fencing shall remain in place until all construction is completed.
6. The applicant shall plant two overstory, deciduous, 2-1/2" diameter trees.
ADOPTED by the Planning Commission this 100 day of March, 2004.
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
BY:
Uli Sacchet, Chairman
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Planning Case #: 04-11
Description: Variance to minimum lot size and hard surface requirement
Location: Lots 2322-2326, Carver Beach
Applicant: Thomas Koehnen
Description
Date
Date of Pre -Application Meeting (if necessary)
Date Application Submitted
2/12/04
Date of Staff Meeting Review
2/17/04
Date Referral Notices Sent/Distributed
1,10,o
Date Referral Agency Comments to be Received BIoLj
Date PH Notice to be emailed to Villager
2f26104
Date PH Notice to be published in Villager
3/4/04
Date PH Notice to be mailed to Property Owners
3/4/04
Date PC Reports due
3/8/04
Date PC Packet goes out
3/10/04
Date of Planning Commission Review (PH date)
3/16
Date of City Council Review
N/A
Date of 60 -Day Deadline
4/12/04
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
PLANNING DEPARTMENT
7700 Market Boulevard
P.O. Box 147
CHANHASSEN, MN 55317
(952) 227-1100 FAX (952) 227-1110
TO: Campbell Knutson, PA
317 Eagandale Office Center
1380 Corporate Center Curve
Eagan, MN 55121
WE ARE SENDING YOU
❑ Shop drawings
❑ Copy of letter
LETTER OPRANSMITTAL
DATE JOB NO.
5/5/04 04-11 Variance
ATTENTION
Sue Nelson
RE:
Document Recording
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❑ Prints ❑ Plans ❑ Samples ❑ Specifications
❑ Change Order ❑ Pay Request ❑
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2326
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❑ Resubmit copies for approval
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Kim Meuwissen, (952) 227-1107
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
VARIANCE 04-11
1. Permit. Subject to the terms and conditions set forth herein, the City of Chanhassen
hereby grants the following variances:
Lot area variance from the required 15,000 square feet for the construction of a
single-family residence on a 7,932 square -foot lot zoned RSF as shown on plans
dated 2/12/04.
2. Property. The variance is for property situated in the City of Chanhassen, Carver
County, Minnesota, and legally described as follows:
795 Ponderosa Drive, Carver Beach Lots 2322-2326
3. Conditions. The variance approval is subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant must submit a building permit before construction.
2. The single-family residence must meet required setbacks.
3. Applicant meets the conditions of Ordinance No. 317 (Building Regulations).
4. A tree removal plan that clearly shows all trees, 6" and larger, and their designation as
removed or saved. The lot may not be clear-cut.
5. Tree protection fencing must be installed prior to any work commencing around all
saved trees. Fencing shall remain in place until construction is completed.
6. The applicant shall plant two overstory, deciduous, 2-1/2" diameter trees.
4. Lapse. If within one (1) year of the issuance of this variance the allowed
construction has not been substantially completed, this variance shall lapse.
Dated: April 12, 2004
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2004 by Thomas A. Furlong, Mayor and Todd Gerhardt, City Manager, of the City of hanhassen,
a Minnesota municipal corporation, on behalf of the corporation and pursuant to authority granted
by its City Council.
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CITY OF
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Regards,
7700 Market Boulevard
PO Bax 147
Tom Koehnen
Chanhassen, MN 55317
6280 Audubon Circle #6
Administration
Excelsior, MN 55331
Phone: 952.227.1100
Planning Intem
Fax: 952.227.1110
Re: Variance Request #04-11 (795 Ponderosa Drive)
Building hapectlous
Phone: 952.227.1180
Dear Mr. Koehnen:
Fax: 952.227.1190
This letter is to notify you that on April 12, 2004, the Chanhassen City Council
Engineering
Phone: 952.227.1160
approved your request for lot area variance from the 15,000 square foot
Fax: 952.227.1170
requirement for the construction of a single-family residence at 795 Ponderosa
Drive, with the following conditions:
Finance
Phone: 952.227.1140
Fax: 952.227.1110
1. The applicant must submit a building permit before construction.
2. The single-family residence must meet required setbacks.
Park & Recreation
Phone: 9522271120
3. Applicant meets the conditions of Ordinance No. 317 (Building
Fax: 952.2271110
Regulations).
Recreation Center
4. A tree removal plan that clearly shows all trees, 6" and larger, and
2310 Coulter Boulevard
their designation as removed or saved. The lot may not be clear-cut.
Phone: .227.14400
Fax: 952.227.1404
5. Tree protection fencing must be installed prior to any work
commencing around all saved trees. Fencing shall remain in place until
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construction is completed.
Natural Resources
6. The applicant shall plant two overstory, deciduous, 2-1/2" diameter
Phone: 952.227.1130
Fax: 952.227.1110
trees.
Public Wells
If you have any questions, please contact me at 952-227-1132.
1591 Park Road
Phone. 952 227,1300
Fax: 952.227.1310
Regards,
Senior Center
Phone. 952.227.1125
Fax: 952.227.1110
Nathan Bouvet
Web She
Planning Intem
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The City of Chanhass�-
This is a letter to inform the City that I disagree with the City's interpretation,
analysis, and decisions in regards to what the City has termed "The fence
situation at 795 Ponderosa".
However, at the City's request I have removed the fence and the post. I have
also made good faith efforts to fulfill to the best of my understanding and ability
the other requests the City has made in regards to 795 Ponderosa.
I do reserve all my rights with this property. In particular I reserve my right to
place fences on this property, especially fences to protect trees or other parts of
the property.
- Thomas Koehnen
RECEIVED
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
City Council SummaryOkpril 12, 2004
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2004, prepared by Schoell & Madson, Inc., and the development contract dated
April 12, 2004, subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall enter into the development contract and supply the City with a
cash escrow or letter of credit in the amount of $305,197 and pay an
administration fee of $20,527.
2. The applicant's engineer shall work with city staff in revising the construction
plans to meet city standards.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
PONDEROSA, THOMAS KOEHNEN.
Public Present:
Name Address
Vicky Hevey
Nancy Mason
Michael Kohane
Felix & Brian Thompson
Mark & Julie Quiner
Shelly MacGillivray
Mark VanGuilder
Ally & Randy Vogel
Chuck Worsfold
Nancy Kennedy
Curt Bjorlin
Bruce Burrington
Lee Pillatzki
Sue & Bruce Koehnen
Tom & Erica Koehnen
780 Woodhill Drive
829 Woodhill Drive
6870 Yuma Drive
6899 Yuma Drive
6889 Yuma Drive
805 Ponderosa Drive
805 Ponderosa Drive
6890 Yuma Drive
6900 Yuma Drive
761 Ponderosa Drive
824 Lone Eagle Drive
6869 Yuma Drive
830 Ponderosa Drive
1830 Koehnen Circle
6280 Audubon Circle
Kate Aanenson provided an update on Planning Commission action on this item.
Councilman Ayotte asked staff to explain how conditions of the variance will be
enforced. Mayor Furlong asked for clarification on the drainage, access into the site, and
the lot being a lot of record. Stating this was not a public hearing, he invited
representatives of the neighbors appealing the decision to speak. Michael Kohane, 6870
Yuma Drive stated the neighbors don't think this is a buildable lot because of the size,
location and shape of the lot. Where it sits there's significant impacts on safety, the
drainage and the environment in that area. He also expressed concern with the
performance of the Planning Commission, indicating they seemed confused on how to
make a decision, questioned the Findings of Fact, and stated the packet he was sent by the
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city was incomplete. Shelly MacGillivray, 805 Ponderosa Drive asked that the driveway
be put on Yuma as the access onto Ponderosa is very dangerous. Ally Vogel, 6890 Yuma
Drive expressed concern with the survey that was done by the applicant which showed
the lot line in the middle of their driveway. Tom Koehnen, 6280 Audubon Circle, the
applicant addressed the issues raised in the appeal documents. Mayor Furlong asked the
city attorney to clarify the legalities of this appeal.
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Ayotte seconded that the City Council
approve the Findings of Fact in the staff report and approve Variance #04-11 for lot
area variance from the 15,000 square feet for the construction of a single family
residence on a 7,932 square foot lot, zoned RSF as shown on plans dated 2/12/04.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
APPROVAL OF AMENDMENTS TO CITY CODE; INCLUDING SUMMARY
ORDINANCE FOR PUBLICATION PURPOSES:
A. CHAPTER 10, LICENSING.
B. CHAPTER 11, MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS AND OFFENSES
C. CHAPTER 13, NUISANCES.
Kate Aanenson presented the staff update on this item. Council members asked for
clarification regarding wine in city parks, the hunting map and hunting regulations.
Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Ayotte seconded to approve the
amendments to Chapter 10 of the City Code, Licensing, including summary
ordinance for publication purposes. All voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Councilman Ayotte moved, Councilman Lundquist seconded to approve
amendments to Chapter 11 of the City Code, Miscellaneous Provisions and
Offenses. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to
0.
Councilman Labatt moved, Councilman Lundquist seconded to approve the
amendments to Chapter 13 of the City Code, Nuisances. All voted in favor and the
motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
COUNCIL PRESENTATIONS: None.
ADMINISTRATIVE PRESENTATIONS:
Todd Gerhardt provided an update on the closing for the bowling alley property and
thanked Justin Miller and John Kelly for representing the city and pushing this item
forward to a close.
CORRESPONDENCE DISCUSSION. None.
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All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Mayor Furlong: Is that the end of the motions? Is there any additional? I think that's it.
Roger Knutson: Did you?
Mayor Furlong: Oh, we have a contract and construction plans.
Roger Knutson: Yes.
Councilman Peterson: I'd move that we approve construction plans and specs and
development contract as submitted by staff this evening.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman Labatt: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Any discussion?
Councilman Peterson moved, Councilman Labatt seconded that the City Council
approve the construction plans and specifications for Kenyon Bluff dated March 24,
2004, prepared by Schoell & Madson, Inc., and the development contract dated
April 12, 2004, subject to the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall enter into the development contract and supply the City with a
cash escrow or letter of credit in the amount of $305,197 and pay an
administration fee of $20,527.
2. The applicant's engineer shall work with city staff in revising the construction
plans to meet city standards.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
APPEAL VARIANCE FOR A 7,068 SO. FT. LOT AREA VARIANCE TO
SECTION 20-615(1) FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSTRUCTING A HOME, 795
PONDEROSA, THOMAS KOEHNEN.
Public Present:
Name Address
Vicky Hevey 780 Woodhill Drive
Nancy Mason 829 Woodhill Drive
Michael Kohane 6870 Yuma Drive
Felix & Brian Thompson 6899 Yuma Drive
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Mark & Julie Quiner
6889 Yuma Drive
Shelly MacGillivray
805 Ponderosa Drive
Mark VanGuilder
805 Ponderosa Drive
Ally & Randy Vogel
6890 Yuma Drive
Chuck Worsfold
6900 Yuma Drive
Nancy Kennedy
761 Ponderosa Drive
Curt Bjorlin
824 Lone Eagle Drive
Bruce Burrington
6869 Yuma Drive
Lee Pillatzki
830 Ponderosa Drive
Sue & Bruce Koehnen
1830 Koehnen Circle
Tom & Erica Koehnen
6280 Audubon Circle
Kate Aanenson: Thank you Mayor, members of City Council. This is the subject site.
It's located on Ponderosa near Yuma. It is a vacant lot of record, as opposed to the
application you just saw before us, a subdivision. This is not a subdivision. It's a
variance request. The applicant appeared before the Planning Commission on March le
to request a variance from our ordinance which has a minimum lot square footage. It also
allows you go within the 75 percent rule, the minimum lot of 15,000. This is a lot of
record. The applicant did also apply for a variance of approximately 4 percent. The
Planning Commission did deny the variance. The applicant has met all the setback
requirements. It was over on the impervious and the Planning Commission felt that the
applicant could make some changes to the plan and meet those requests, so the applicant
did not appeal. I passed out a letter to you that he wanted that back on. He did not
appeal that request within the required number of days so that request is not before you
tonight.
Mayor Furlong: And just for clarification, that's the request for the.
Kate Aanenson: Impervious.
Mayor Furlong: Impervious coverage.
Kate Aanenson: That's correct. Yep, and states some reasons in there.
Mayor Furlong: So the only issue before us is.
Kate Aanenson: Correct, because what was appealed by the neighbors. Again, anybody
aggrieved of the decision made by the Board of Adjustments has a right to appeal that so
there were 3 letters written from the neighbors appealing the request of the variance.
Again, there were some issues that were raised at the Planning Commission and staff,
Nate our planner and Matt Saam did work on looking at some of those issues.
Specifically was the driveway location. With the proposed driveway comes out onto
Ponderosa and looking at that, the neighboring driveway also comes out onto Ponderosa.
It was felt at that time based on some elevations that appeared to be the best location of
the driveway. Again there's some significant trees that were requested to be staked in
that area. Another issue was drainage. Looking again, without the specific plan in front
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in place, it appears that some of the drainage, approximately halfway through the lot
would go out onto Ponderosa via swale. The rest of it would be swaled around. Again
there is an ordinance requirement for, this is part of your most recent updated code
requirements that they need to submit, the applicant would need to submit to get a
building permit, which requires that they demonstrate all this on the building survey.
And again, that's done at the time of building permit. Lots of times on existing lots of
record on an older subdivision, sometimes those get kicked around between planning and
engineering for a number of reasons, whether it's tree conservation as opposed to a newer
subdivision where you've got one builder that's kind of notched those out. Sometimes
we have those, on this previous lot where they will be custom graded. There's a little bit
more give and take trying to figure out exactly where the best way, so they may come in
with one. We may tweak it, send it back. Try to work those issues out. So again on this
one we've made some preliminary recommendations to the Koehnen's and again we may
go back out after they submit and verify that. But it appears based on the issues that
came up at the Planning Commission that we think those issues can be resolved. Again
they'll have to show us on the building permit the elevations and there will have to be a
survey and all that will be shown on there. Again that's spelled out in city code. The
other thing that happens after it's built, they'll have to do an as -built survey to show that
they built it as according to what they submitted as far as the survey. So again it is a lot
of record. The staff's position was that we recommend approval because unless someone
was to acquire the property, they have reasonable use to use it which we think a home is a
reasonable use. Again it does meet all the setback requirements and it will need to be
tweaked a little bit for the impervious surface and we expect to see that with the
revised... survey. With that I'd be happy to answer any questions that you may have.
Mayor Furlong: Great, questions for staff.
Councilman Ayotte: What is the, let's say the as -built comes back and the swale is
missing?
Kate Aanenson: That's what I was saying, that's typically what we would check and they
may go back. We'd hold it up and not approve it. Just call up the applicant and say
there's some things missing. Or we think the swale's not going to function properly.
Some of those sort of issues. We are going to require gutters and some of that too.
Councilman Ayotte: Are there time lines associated? Where are we at risk if we wait too
long to do the comparison, the as -built to what's built. Are there any parameters that we
have to hold to that would put us at risk?
Kate Aanenson: Certificate of Occupancy. Again they'll have to provide erosion control
during construction and that's inspected regularly, so once they want to get Certificate of
Occupancy, that's a requirement. If they don't have that, then they have to put security in
place. Sometimes we do have closings in the winter, which is difficult to do, then they
have to put security in place until we're able to verify that. That's pretty much a common
practice over the last few years.
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Councilman Ayotte: So what you're saying to me is that there's no risk, and once we
have the as -built, and we have the ability to inspect the as -built, we don't have...
Kate Aanenson: Low risk, correct.
Mayor Furlong: Are there other questions for staff? A sense on the drainage again. Just
as an issue there. You mentioned that it's subject to that. Is this, with the slopes of this
property and the swales that you described, is it going to be possible to control the
drainage so that it doesn't, as this property is built upon, if that's the route that we go,
that it's not sending additional water to the neighboring properties.
Kate Aanenson: That's our opinion looking with engineering.
Mayor Furlong: There's quite a bit of slope on this property.
Kate Aanenson: And with gutters too.
Matt Saam: Yes, we thought through a system, guttering the house. Routing the roof
drainage toward each of the streets, along with swales. Keep in mind we haven't seen an
actual survey with a proposed house plan. When we get that, then we'll know for sure,
do they need a retaining wall to get the Swale or can they just grade it in? So those are
issues, as Kate said, we'll look at when the building permit comes in but we've instructed
the applicant they, he will have to put in a system of swales along with some gutters on
the house.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, with the purpose of directing the runoff, the drainage from the
property.
Matt Saam: Correct. Around his house and then so it's not going toward adjacent
houses. We want it going toward the street line everybody else.
Mayor Furlong: Given that there's no drainage control on this lot right now, is there any
expectation that with the swales we would improve the drainage relative to neighboring
properties?
Matt Saam: Relative to the two adjacent to them, yes. Downstream, that's a tougher one
because we are adding impervious so you could argue that the water's getting off the site
faster in the proposed or developed state then it is now so, but in regards to the
neighboring properties.
Mayor Furlong: I'm sorry, with regard to the two neighboring properties?
Matt Saam: To the two adjacent neighboring properties we will be decreasing the runoff
toward them.
Mayor Furlong: Okay.
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Kate Aanenson: I would say yeah, in that neighborhood itself, I'm not sure, most of it's
sheet flowing. There's not a lot of controlled runoff in that whole neighborhood so I'm
not sure that this person has to carry the burden for the whole neighbor, but we don't
want to increase this property onto somebody else's, and that was the goal in meeting out
there with the swales, right.
Mayor Furlong: And with the drainage plan that you're anticipating, you'll certainly not
add any drainage to the neighbor.
Kate Aanenson: That's correct.
Mayor Furlong: And would likely improve it.
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: Or decrease the drainage. Thank you. With regard to the access point, I
know that was an issue, whether it came off Ponderosa or Yuma, basically from a safety
standpoint, and again we're dealing with there's an intersection right there.
Matt Saam: Yeah, Mr. Mayor we did go out and look at the site. Met with the neighbors.
If you've been out there, this property's kind of at the low point, or sag of a curve. So,
and the curve is on Ponderosa, so with this driveway coming out onto Ponderosa we feel
there will be good sight lines both to the east and west. You'll be able to see basically to
the top of the two hills, to both the east and the west. The other point that we looked at
was the driveway, if it would come out onto Yuma would add, it's a bit longer so it
would add a little bit more impervious and I know with him being right on the border of
the impervious, he went for a variance before. We didn't feel it was necessary to make
him come that way.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. And then with regard to, you mentioned a lot of record. This is a
relatively small lot. Relative to our current standards.
Kate Aanenson: Correct
Mayor Furlong: But this was a lot of record when those standards went into place, is that
my understanding?
Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: So it's a.
Kate Aanenson: We have some other up in Carver Beach area.
Mayor Furlong: And I guess, explain to me, there are some that are much smaller that
have no homes on them.
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Kate Aanenson: Correct.
Mayor Furlong: Reading the Planning Commission it looks like 8,000. This one is a few
feet below that.
Kate Aanenson: Just 7,000, yes. Correct. And we've had some other ones that have
come in for variance. Similar situation. Under sized lot. Under the 75 percent rule.
That have pursued the variance request.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Alright, thank you. Any other questions for staff? I guess at this
time we did receive, in terms of some letters from some residents appealing the decision.
Typically we will allow people to come forward if there's, I guess my preference would
be a representative from those appealing the decision, if they'd like to come forward and
speak at this time.
Michael Kohane: Sorry, I can go first -but we'd all like to say something... we can keep
it very brief if that's okay.
Mayor Furlong: Well I guess it's not a public hearing but if there's, you know we did
receive the letter and we read the letters, but if there's something additional that people
would like to add to the record. Certainly, why don't you state your name and address.
Michael Kohane: Michael Kohane, 6870 Yuma Drive, Chanhassen. We're appealing the
lot variance because we really don't think it's a buildable lot because of the size and it's
location and the shape of the lot. Where it sits and there's significant impacts on safety
and the drainage and the environment in that area. Again like others, it's difficult to,
we've mentioned most of the issues in our letters. We won't reiterate. Ponderosa Drive
is a major thoroughfare through there now. Adding another home there will create
significant safety issues with vehicles, children, all sorts of other things as well. So the
second point I want to make, particularly was that I was very concerned with the
performance at the Planning Commission. They seemed to me to be quite confused about
how they were to make a decision, and certainly as I gather here, you don't have to have
any hard data to make a decision but the drawings were hand drawn by the applicant and
it wasn't particularly clear and there was a great deal of confusion and I would like to
question the Findings of Fact based on the Planning Commission. I'm not a lawyer but I
would like to question that. And I don't think they should be generally accepted. On a
couple of technical issues, I received a package from the city last Friday, which dealt
with all the appeal issues. That's incomplete. My initial letter wasn't in there, and also
it's not in chronological order, and there's a list of names in there with no explanation
and I would like that to be corrected before we went any further with this project. I have
some direct questions to the owner of the property, whether that be the applicant or not,
I'm not sure. We're all very unclear about this down there. Is this lot big enough for a
family home? Is it safe to build on the comer? Is it good enough to cut down the trees to
build? And is it good to disrupt the drainage there whereas we understand it drains 38
acres down into a silt filtration pond which then drains into Lotus Lake. And then just a
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general issue on, I know that your hands are tied with building, but seems to me, and our
community feels this too down in this area of Carver Beach that the City of Chanhassen
emphasizes home construction. You've got Highway 5, Big Woods development in our
area, luxury homes on this side of the lake, new ones on the other side of the lake, and for
the local community they see this as just replacement of the natural environment with
hard cover. With unknown consequences for the future. And the local Lotus Lake
community, when you go around and talk to people they're overwhelming against this
now and very, very concerned. They don't know what to do, and I gather your hands are
tied too. But in this case I've asked the city, because it's an exceptional case, to commit
to the natural environment in some way. Make some sort of policy change or shift, and
maybe stop home construction on this small lot to send an indication to other people that
it might be possible to preserve trees and habitat locally, and in this way, as someone else
suggested to me, the city could become a genuine leader in trying to get around these
issues of conservation, preservation and development. So in short we appeal the first
variance. We don't think it's a buildable lot because of the site, location and shape and
size and the impact on the drainage and the environment and the safety issues there on
Ponderosa Drive. All of that's detailed in our letters, and I myself personally question
the findings of fact to the Planning Commission and the packets that I received was,
needs to be corrected. It was incomplete and not in chronological order to be interpreted
correctly. Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Alright, thank you. Is there any comments from staff?
Kate Aanenson: I'm assuming the names are the names that went out to everyone within
300 feet. Are they in chronological order? Maybe not. But all the letters are shown as
attachments. I think Nate and I discussed the first letter did go to the Planning
Commission. You receive the Planning Commission packet so we assumed you had read
the first packet so we just included the updated ones because the council does get all of
the Planning Commission packets, so you had received it, so we just didn't put it in the
most recent. That was appropriate to the appeal.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Alright, and again, if there's representatives that would like to
speak on this, if you're comfortable with the presentation just made, I think that's fine. I
don't want to have a full public hearing but I do want to make sure that if there are
additional points besides those raised in the letters that were provided, we'd be happy to
listen to them at this time.
Shelly MacGillivray: My name's Shelly MacGillivray. I live at 805 Ponderosa Drive.
Our driveway is on Ponderosa Drive at that location and it's very dangerous. I am
concerned for the safety for everyone. I just would highly recommend, if there's any way
possible to put it on Yuma.
Ally Vogel: Hello gentlemen, my name is Ally Vogel and I live at 6890 Yuma, directly
to the south of this lot and one thing that I want to bring up, I did send an e-mail out to all
of you addressing some of the drainage issues but one thing that may be a situation that
reflects on our property specifically was that a survey was done by the applicant probably
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a couple weeks ago and we discovered that the lot line is in the middle of our driveway.
This driveway has been there for over 20 years and obviously when my husband and I
purchased the home we were not aware of any encroachment issues, etc, and now
obviously this is going to be a pretty good hardship on us or concern to figure out
whether or not we can seek an easement or have an adjustment made to that property line,
but it's, you know some of the neighbors have tried to purchase this lot from the
applicant in the past. Obviously now with this issue we'd be very interested in
purchasing a portion of that but that's something I just want to make you aware of in
addition to everything else.
Mayor Furlong: Okay, thank you. Is the original applicant here this evening, if they'd
like to say anything to the council.
Tom Koehnen: Good evening everybody. My name is Tom Koehnen and I live at 6280
Audubon Circle in Chanhassen and I am the applicant in this matter, and I'd like to
address the issues that have been raised by those who have made this appeal. And in the
interest of time I'm going to keep my remarks short. I'm going to only address issues
that have been specifically raised in the appeal documents. On or about the 12m of
March I submitted by variance request to the City of Chanhassen Planning Commission.
The request included two variances. One for a variance to the minimum buildable lot
size, and one for a variance to the 25 percent maximum hard cover requirement. I
developed this proposal as a feasible and reasonable use for this property. Before I
submitted this proposal I met with the city planning department to get their input on how
to design this project with a minimum variances needed from the city. To put this legally
non -conforming lot to a reasonable use. After careful review the city and planning staff
agreed that my proposal, including the variance to the 25 percent maximum hard cover
was a feasible proposal for a reasonable use of this property. My proposal conformed
with the existing standards to which comparable properties in the area have been put.
The planning staff in it's report found that this proposal in it's entirety did not
downwardly depart from the existing neighborhood standards, and met all other
conditions for the city to properly grant these variances. On the 100 of March the city
Planning Commission voted 5 to 0 to grant the variance to the minimum buildable lot
size as we heard, but voted to deny my variance to the maximum of 25 percent maximum
hard cover requirement. I was glad the commission granted me my lot variance. My lot
size variance, but I felt the Planning Commission's denial of the variance to the 25
percent maximum hard cover requirement was unjustified. That's how it stood until a
group of my future neighbors decided to appeal the entire decision in general, and both
the minimum lot size variance and the denial of the maximum hard cover variance
specifically and that is point 3 of the appeals documents. That's why I'm going to
address it right now. Now that both these issues have been re -opened I'd like to take this
opportunity to address both of them. First I'd like to address the minimum lot size
variance. The record clearly shows that this request meets the 3 tests for granting of a
variance. The request is reasonable by the opinion of the city staff has been consistent.
Placement of a single family house on this site meets the same use of the property that the
neighboring properties meet. Secondly the proposed foot print meets the unique issues
inherent in this property. Care was taken by both myself and on the part of the city staff
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to treat this project as a unique situation and deal with all aspects individually. Finally
this project conforms to the existing standards in the immediate area. The record is clear
from the city staff report. The footage of the proposed houses within the range of house
sizes in the area. This lot is also within the range of lot sizes that have houses on them in
this area. Therefore I believe the decision to grant the variance to the minimum buildable
lot size should be withheld. Secondly, now that my future neighbors have specifically re-
opened the denial of the hard cover variance, I would like to address the issue. I feel that
this request is also reasonable and meets those three tests. Therefore I feel the City
Council should over turn the decision of the Planning Commission and grant me the
variance to the maximum hard cover ordinance of 25 percent. I ask that the City Council
grant the variance of 3.6 percent for a total of 28.6 percent. This would be in addition of
some 258 square feet. First way to grant this variance a question of reasonableness must
be asked. It's my opinion and the opinion of the city staff as stated in their
recommendations dated March the 16'h, an addition of 258 feet of hard cover to design a
safe driveway and adequate sidewalk is a reasonable request. Second question is one of
uniqueness. It is my understanding that the maximum hard cover requirement ordinance
was enacted as a blanket guide line to deal with drainage and runoff issues that arise from
placing a structure on a previously undeveloped lot. In this situation I have had meetings
with the planning department and the engineering department of the city to discuss
methods and plans to mitigate the issue of drainage and runoff on this lot. All of my
proposed to the engineering department deal with drainage on this unique site were
deemed acceptable, feasible and reasonable as stated in the record in the staff report.
Thus in this situation it has been shown that I can meet the intent of this part of the
ordinance with more than the 25 percent hard cover and granting of the ordinance was
wholly, this variance is wholly acceptable. Finally does the proposal meet the existing
standards in the immediate area? The answer to that question is also yes. As the record
shows, this area is filled with non -conforming lots. On average the lots do not meet the
minimum lot size. And further, many of the properties have non -conforming gravel
driveways that negatively impact drainage and runoff. That's my proposal, this proposal,
my original proposal meets and exceeds the drainage and runoff standards in place in the
neighborhood and do not depart downwardly from them. Because of these reasons I
believe, and I think that the record shows that this variance is reasonable and should be
granted. I'd like to thank everybody involved for their time and consideration in this
matter and I look forward to a speedy conclusion to this business, and further wonderful
cooperation on the part of the city as this project continues. I've brought copies of my
remarks for members of the council if they'd like to review them and I'd be happy to
answer any questions.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Any questions for the applicant?
Councilman Ayotte: I don't know whether the question goes but I'm back to the lady
said that she had a survey done and it ended up in the middle of her driveway.
Kate Aanenson: Correct. Let me just clarify that. There was a survey done. It appears
that their driveway, it's a civil matter at this point. Their driveway goes across what Mr.
Koehnen believes is his property so they'll have to reconcile that between the two of
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them. And just to be clear, the applicant did not appeal the impervious within the
required days. I understand his frustration with the neighbors appealing, that he wanted
to throw that back into the mix. That is not before you tonight, just to be clear. That
deadline passed for appealing.
Mayor Furlong: It was his position to appeal?
Kate Aanenson: The neighbors appealed. Because the Planning Commission denied the
impervious, the neighbors were happy with that but they still wanted the house being
denied, so they appealed that portion which the Planning Commission approved. We did
not.
Tom Koehnen: If you look at Section 3 of the appeal document that my future neighbors
signed to you along with about 20 signatures.
Kate Aanenson: The Planning Commission denied it though so they couldn't appeal
something that was recommended for denial.
Tom Koehnen: All I know is that they specifically appealed that part.
Mayor Furlong: Mr. Knutson.
Roger Knutson: I'm looking at the petition. First the cover letter says, we wish to appeal
the decision and request the City Council deny the lot area variance. Then when you
look on the petition pages itself, it says approve the lot size. They're appealing the
decision to approve the lot size variance.
Tom Koehnen: Last page of the comments in the letter. It's point 3, denial of lot
coverage variance.
Roger Knutson: It doesn't say they appeal it though.
Kate Aanenson: That was how we understood it. They referenced it but I don't think it
was appealed.
Mayor Furlong: I mean I'm reading this, I don't want to be the interpreter, that's what he
gets paid the big bucks but is the point of that, that they don't believe that without the lot
size variance it's not, or without the impervious coverage variance it's not a buildable lot.
Is that how I'm reading that? It was more to their point about why it was not a buildable
lot. I don't want to interpret what they said.
Roger Knutson: With the lot size variance they could build a house that meets all of the
requirements on.
Kate Aanenson: Correct... changes to modifications of the driveway width and some of
that, correct. And that was the Planning Commission's interpretation.
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Mayor Furlong: My sense is that's what the Planning Commission determined. Okay,
any other questions for Mr. Koehnen? If not, thank you very much. Appreciate your
comments.
Tom Koehnen: Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: With that is there any follow up questions for staff or additional
questions or we'll bring it back to council.
Councilman Ayotte: In respect for the as-built's, there was a voiced concern that the
original was a sketch, so on and so forth. But the deliverable that you accept, the as -built
that you inspect to and conduct acceptance of the project is to what standard?
Kate Aanenson: The registered survey. That's what I've handed out to you is the
registered survey. And just to be fair, kind of going back to the neighborhood standard,
again what the burden is, I'm not sure all the neighbors have a hard surface driveway or
gutters, and again so we are raising the standard on this house for him to accommodate
some of those existing.
Councilman Ayotte: So any inspection to the as -built would be to a much higher
standard. I guess I'm trying to articulate that so everybody understands.
Kate Aanenson: Yes, yes.
Councilman Ayotte: Thank you.
Mayor Furlong: Okay. Other discussion? Any other points? Councilman Labatt or
Peterson?
Councilman Peterson: Roger, if we don't grant the variance we're essentially saying it's
a non -buildable lot then, is that?
Roger Knutson: That's correct.
Councilman Peterson: And there are obvious ramifications for doing that.
Roger Knutson: That's also correct.
Councilman Peterson: So once again our hands are somewhat tied.
Councilman Ayotte: However the point, I'd like to make a comment. I think that thing
that's pivotal in this particular project, especially the issue of drainage and other things,
that when you submit an as -built and when you inspect on that as -built, versus how it has
been in the past, especially if that neighborhood has history, we haven't always done that.
So this is a new thing. And if I could put some minds at ease, when you have the as -built
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and you inspect the as -built and if the individual doesn't adhere to the constraints of that
as -built, it gets redone. And I think that's a much better mode of operation than we've
seen in the past, especially 7 years ago for 6213 Cascade Pass where there was the same
issue. So I speak from experience here. So they have come a long way and staff has
done an exceptional job of changing the ordinances and the procedures to ensure that we
do not have those sorts of issues, so if that puts your mind at ease a bit, I hope it does.
Thank you Mayor.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Other comments or discussion? Councilman Labatt? I
guess this is another difficult one, and to the extent that we're dealing with a property
owner that chooses to improve their property, you know there are certain property rights
that I look at that allows people to do that. If we didn't have that right, none of us would
have our homes here. And I think that's always the challenge with development that it
brings change. I think the key here or some of the keys that I look to are again, same
issues that we dealt with on a previous item. Safety from a traffic standpoint. Yuma is a
one way going north, south of Ponderosa and relatively narrow road as well as Ponderosa
itself. All the roads in that area are, and so there's one could argue that there's safety
throughout that neighborhood, especially when you get further north and try to go down
the bluff. It can be difficult. I think bringing it out onto Ponderosa, which is actually a
two way street provides, you know and with the grading, I'm going to defer to staff there
and I think with regard to that, that's helpful. The other advantage I see is that the
drainage issue, and that's clearly a concern. If somebody's going to improve their
property, they cause additional drainage or water going onto a neighbor's property and I
don't think so. And I think by working with the as-builts and with the drainage design, as
the staff has worked with them to come up with and will adhere to and make sure that
that's there, we can not only prevent additional flow but as I heard tonight, perhaps even
improve it or reduce the flow. I'll leave it to the engineers to get that done. But
ultimately you know I think, in addition to the items Councilman Peterson mentioned,
you know this is, it's a lot. There are a lot of small lots in that neighborhood and while
this one has not been built on before, it's always hard to see a stand of trees go. I know
that is a fairly heavily wooded area too, further down Yuma and others so from that
standpoint I think it's one of those things that we're stuck here between the existing
neighborhoods and the property... without adding burden from a drainage and other
physical burden to those property owners so, from that standpoint I guess if there are
other comments or discussion. If not, is there a motion. And I don't think there is a
motion. The fact that the Planning Commission approved the lot area variance, which is
the issue before us tonight, as I understand it. The only issue before us tonight so a
motion would be to affirm the Planning Commission's recommendation, or to deny and
reverse.
Roger Knutson: I think they're one in the same so.
Mayor Furlong: Alright.
Roger Knutson: And that motion would also include adopting the Findings of Fact of the
Planning Commission as your findings.
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Mayor Furlong: Good. Alright. Would someone like to make a motion?
Councilman Lundquist: Mr. Mayor I would move that the City Council approve the
Findings of Fact in the staff report and approve the variance #04-11 for lot area from the
required 15,000 square feet for the construction of a single family residence on a 7,932
square foot lot. As shown on plans dated 2112104.
Mayor Furlong: Thank you. Is there a second?
Councilman Ayotte: Second.
Mayor Furlong: Is there any further discussion?
Councilman Lundquist moved, Councilman Ayotte seconded that the City Council
approve the Findings of Fact in the staff report and approve Variance #04-11 for lot
area variance from the 15,000 square feet for the construction of a single family
residence on a 7,932 square foot lot, zoned RSF as shown on plans dated 2112104.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
APPROVAL OF AMENDMENTS TO CITY CODE: INCLUDING SUMMARY
ORDINANCE FOR PUBLICATION PURPOSES:
A. CHAPTER 10, LICENSING.
B. CHAPTER 11, MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS AND OFFENSES.
C. CHAPTER 13. NUISANCES.
Kate Aanenson: We'll take these a, b, c as written. Chapter 10, Chapter 11 and Chapter
13, and what I'd like to do, I'll stop at each one if you're ready to make the motion but
just kind of go through the salient points. You have reviewed these before. We followed
through with a comment so Chapter 10 with regard to license permits and miscellaneous
business regulations. Again this has to do with the liquor license. Again we exempted
3.2 malt liquor from the public hearing requirement. Adjusted the pull tab establishments
that have a liquor license. Eliminate the requirement that non -profits have to be located
in Chanhassen. They just be chartered so they're allowed here. And also eliminate the
organizations to direct where their gambling proceeds go. The city can pick where they
want them to go. They can't assign them to certain things. That's a council discretion,
and again we added ... that were deemed just normally in the rental license. As we know
we have the three strike rule. We found an offense, you can see the ones that we added.
Murder. That wasn't one, manslaughter, assault, criminal sexual assault, and theft, arson,
burglary. Those are added to the strike rule because somewhere in that list they had an
issue on the strike rule so those will be added to the rental licensing requirement. So with
that, that's kind of a summary of the changes made to Chapter 10, so we are
recommending approval of that and the motion to that is in kind of the cover memo under
the recommendations approving Chapter 10 with clarifications.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Todd Gerhardt, City Manager
FROM: Nathan Bouvet, Planning Intern S
DATE: April 12, 2004
SUBJ: KoehnenVariance 04-11
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
The Planning Commission recommended approval of the lot area variance and
consequently denial of the impervious coverage variance due to the applicant being
able to meet the hard surface requirements of the City Code. The primary issues the
Planning Commission had were the materials to be used under the proposed deck,
tree removal, access, and drainage.
With respect to the coverage under the deck, if the applicant chooses to utilize
materials under the deck it was recommend that type R or equal fabric barrier be
used in lieu of any poly to allow additional drainage. Staff has contacted the
applicant questioning the materials to be used underneath the deck and staff has
determined that there will be no special materials used under the proposed deck.
If poly and rock material is used underneath it becomes hard cover and creates
more impervious coverage.
The applicant is having a survey done on the property, including a tree removal
plan that clearly shows all trees, 6" and larger, and their designation as removed
or saved. The lot cannot be clear-cut. A majority of the trees located on the
property are less than six (6) inches in width and will not be included in the tree
removal plan. Tree protection fencing will be installed during construction prior
to any work commencing around all saved trees. Fencing shall remain in place
until all construction is completed. Staff also required the applicant to plant two
overstory, deciduous, 2-1/2" diameter trees as stated in the staff report dated
March 16, 2004.
At the March 16, 2004, Planning Commission meeting, concerns were raised
regarding the location of the proposed access to the site from Ponderosa Drive.
The Commission asked staff to look at the possibility of moving the driveway so
that the home would have access from Yuma Drive versus Ponderosa Drive.
Staff has since met with the applicant and reviewed the location of the proposed
driveway. Staff concluded that the high point of the property west of the garage
would require a tuckunder style garage and that the increased length of the
driveway would increase the impervious coverage and would make it harder for
the applicant to meet the maximum 25 percent hard surface requirement. City
engineers concluded that there was not an added benefit to relocate the driveway
to access Yuma Drive.
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Staff also discussed drainage concerns with the applicant. The applicant proposed
several different drainage possibilities. First, the applicant proposed the use of
gutters to drain runoff water towards the driveway, which would then slope
towards Yuma Drive east of the home. Second, swales both south and southwest
of the home would move runoff water from the west portion of the lot south of the
proposed home sloping onto Yuma Drive. Both methods were determined
feasible by city engineers as long as they followed the guidelines of Ordinance
317 (Building Regulations).
Staff believes the proposed home construction is complimentary and compatible
with the surrounding neighborhood (lot of record) and is recommending approval
of the lot area variance.
ACTION REQUIRED
Approval of this item requires a simple majority vote by those City Council
members present.
PLANNING COMMISSION SUMMARY
The Planning Commission held a public hearing on March 16, 2004. The
Planning Commission approved Variance #04-11 for a lot area variance from the
required 15,000 square feet and denied the 3.6 percent impervious coverage
variance for the construction of a single-family residence on a 7,932 square foot
lot, zoned RSF as shown on plans dated 2112/04. The summary and verbatim
minutes are item la of the City Council packet for April 12, 2004.
RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends the City Council approve the findings of fact found in the staff
report and the following motion:
"The City Council approve Variance #04-11 for a lot area variance from the
required 15,000 square feet for the construction of a single-family residence on a
7,932 square foot lot, zoned RSF as shown on plans dated 2/12/04"
ATTACHMENTS
1. Letters from residents to Honorable Mayor, City Council and Planning
Commission Members.
2. Planning Commission Staff Report Dated March 16, 2004.
3. Findings of Fact.
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planning department to get their input about how to design this project with the
minimum variances needed from the City, to put this legally non -conforming lot to a
reasonable use.
After careful review the City Planning Staff agreed that my proposal including the
vanes lce to the 4rn0 I..aximum hard cover was a feasible proposal for a reasonable
use of this property. This proposal conformed with the existing standards to which
comparable properties in the area have been put. The Planning Staff in Its report
found that this proposal in its entirety did not downwardly depart from the existing
neighborhood stanudalds and met all other conditions for the City to properly grant
these variances.
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April 8, 2004
On the 16th of March the Planning Commission voted 5-0 to grant the variance to the
minimum buildable lot size but voted to deny the variance to the 25% maximum
hardcover requirement. I was glad that the Commission grated the lot area variance,
but, I felt that the Planning Commission's denial of a variance to the 25% maximum
hardcover requirement was unjustified. I was disappointed the Commission denied
the coverage variance, and that is how it stood until a group of my future neighbors
decided to appeal the entire decision in general and both the minimum lot area
variance and the denial of the maximum hard cover variance specifically. Now that
both of these issues have been reopened, I would like to take this opportunity to
address both of these issues.
First I would like to address the minimum lot size variance. The record clearly shows
that this request meets the three tests for the granting of a variance. First, it is
reasonable. The opinion of the City Staff has been consistent. The placement of a
single family house on this site makes the same use of this property that the
neighboring properties make. Secondly, this proposed footprint meets the unique
issues inherent in this property. Care was taken both on my part and the part of the
City Staff to treat this project as a unique situation and deal with all of its aspects
individually. Finally, this project conforms to the existing standards in the immediate
area. The record is clear from the City Staff report. The footage of the proposed
house is within the range of house sizes in the area. This lot area is within the range
of lot sizes with houses on them in this area. Therefore I believe this decision to
grant the variance to the minimum buildable lot size should be upheld.
Secondly, now that my future neighbors have specifically reopened the denial of the
hardcover variance, I would like to now address the issue. I feel that this request is
also reasonable and meets the three tests. Therefore I feel that the City Council
should overturn this decision of the Planning Commission and grant me the variance
to the maximum hardcover ordinance of 25%. 1 ask that the Council grant a variance
of 3.6% for a total of 28.6%. This would be an addition of some 258 square feet.
Firstly, to grant this variance a question of reasonableness must be asked. It is my
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opinion and the opinion of the City Staff as stated in their recommendations dated
March 16h that the addition of 258 feet of hardcover to design a safe driveway and
adequate sidewalk is reasonable. The second question is one of uniqueness. It is
my understanding the maximum coverage requirement was enacted as a blanket
guideline to deal with the drainage and runoff issues that arise from placing a
structure on a previously undeveloped lot. In this situation I have had meetings with
the Planning Department and the Engineering Department of the City to discuss
methods and plans to mitigate the issue of drainage on this lot. All of my proposals
to the Engineering Department to deal with drainage on this unique site were
deemed acceptable, feasible, and reasonable as stated in the record in the Staff
Report. Finally, does the proposal meet the existing standards in the immediate
area? The answer to this question is also yes. As the record shows, the area is filled
with non -conforming lots. On average the lots do not meet the minimum lot size.
Further many of the properties have nonconforming gravel driveways that negatively
impact drainage and runoff. Thus this proposal meets the drainage and runoff
standards in place in the neighborhood, and do not depart downward from them.
Because of these reasons I believe and I think the record shows that this variance is
reasonable and should be granted.
The last issue I would like to raise is that of motive of those who have made this
appeal. On March 31" 1 had a survey performed on this property. In the course of
surveying the property the surveyor staked the comers of the lot. After the comers
were staked it became clear that the adjoining properties at 805 Ponderosa and 6890
Yuma have both been using large parts of this lot without permission. In fact the
south east corner of this lot is in the middle of the driveway serving 6890 Yuma. This
means that over ten feet of this driveway frontage to Yuma is on this lot in question.
Further, a fence on 805 Ponderosa has been extended over six feet onto this
property to increase the apparent size of the front yard of 805 Ponderosa. All of this
encroachment was done without permission. I believe that this appeal was made in
part with the idea of continuing wrongful use and enjoyment of this lot by the
neighborhood.
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I would like to thank everyone involved for their time and consideration in this matter.
I look forward to a speedy conclusion to this business and to further wonderful
cooperation on the part of the City as this project continues.
Sincerely,
Thomas D.Koehnen
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Michael Kohane
6870 Yuma Dr.
Chanhassen, MN 55317.
home — 952401-0520
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4/5/04
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Appeal: Planning Case #04-11, 795 Ponderosa Dr.
Comments and Questions for the City Engineer and the City Council:
1. The applicant has not given the local residents any information. We have not
been able to discuss his intentions and plans with him He has made no
attempt to reach out to the local residents and incorporate them in his
decision making process. We know nothing about him, his plans nor his
ultimate goals.
2. The time available for local residents to respond to the applicant's plans has
clearly been intentionally curtailed by the applicant.
3. 1 ask the City Engineer to consider the destruction of the trees on the lot, the
location of the driveway, the safety issue of speed along Ponderosa Dr.,
adherence to the hardcover limits and the fact that the house will dominate
the small lot.
4. 1 note that the applicant recently had the lot surveyed. Local residents were
concerned that the individuals who did the work did not appear to be
professionals. I informed Nathan Bouvet of our concern.
5. At the time of the survey, the applicant informed one of the residents that he
intended to build the house with his buddies, in the evenings and on
weekends. "Thus, I conclude that a professional building firm will not be
involved. I am very worried that this approach will lead to many infractions
of building codes and limitations set by the City. Hence, I informed Nathan
Bouvet of my concerns.
6. Local residents were also worried that this project could end up taking an
extensive amount of time, with much local disruption as a consequence of
the applicant building whenever he wanted to. I again informed Nathan
Bouvet of our concerns.
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7. I am concerned that the applicant is using this case as a "test case" in order to
set up both a precedent and process to build on other small lots m the area.
We see the clear consequences of this as including: tree and habitat
destruction, run-off increase, deterioration m local safety and lowered
quality of life and property values.
M. Ukr..
Michael Kohane.
Affidavit of Publication
Southwest Suburban Publishing
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Laurie A. Hartmann, being duly sworn, on oath says that she is the publisher or the authorized
NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
agent of the publisher of the newspapers known as the Chaska Herald and the Chanhassen Vil-
PLANNING CASE NO. 04-11
lager and has full knowledge of the facts herein stated as follows:
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that
the Chanhassen
(A) These newspapers have complied with the requirements constituting qualification as a legal
Planning
Commission will hold a public
newspaper, as provided vided b Minnesota Statute 33IA.02, 331A.07, and other applicable laws, as
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hearing on Tuesday, March 16, 2004,
amended.
at 7:00 P.M. in the Council Chambers
in Chanhassen City Hall,
The that is to this Affidavit and identified as No.
7700 Market
Boulevard. The purpose of this
(B) printed public notice attached
was published on the date or dazes and in the newspaper stated in the attached Notice and said
hearing is to consider the request for
Notice is hereby incorporated as part of this Affidavit. Said notice was cut from the columns of
a 7,066 square foot lot area variance to
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the newspaper specified. Printed below is a copy of the lower case alphabet from A to Z, both
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inclusive, and is hereby acknowledged as being the kind and size of type used in the composition
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and publication of the Notice:
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review at City Hall during regular
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business hours.
All interested persons are invited
to attend this public hearing and
express their opinions with respect
Subscribed and sworn before me on
to this proposal.
Nathan Bouvet,
Planning Intern
Phone: 952-227-1132
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CHANHASSEN PLANNING
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
MARCH 16, 2004
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: IJIi Sacchet, Rich Slagle, Craig Claybaugh, Bruce Feik, and
Steve Lillehaug
MEMBERS ABSENT: Bethany Tjomhom and Kurt Papke
STAFF PRESENT: Bob Generous, Senior Planner; Sharmeen Al-Jaff, Senior Planner;
Nate Bouvet, Planning Intem; and Matt Saam, Assistant City Engineer
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Debbie Lloyd
Janet & Jerry Paulsen
7302 Laredo Drive
7305 Laredo Drive
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR A 7,068 SQUARE FOOT VARIANCE TO SECTION 20-615(1)
AND A 3.6 PERCENT MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE VARIANCE TO SECTION
20-615(4) OF THE CHANHASSEN CITY CODE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
CONSTRUCTING A HOME AT 795 PONDEROSA DRIVE, ZONED RSF,
PLANNING CASE #04-11.
Public Present:
Name Address
Tom Koehnen
Bruce & Sue Koehnen
Mark Van Guilder
Shelly T. MacGillivray
Ginny Koehnen
Brenda Bjorlin
Randy & Ally Vogel
Michael Kohane
Chuck Worsfold
Bruce Burrington
Julie & Mark Quiner
6280 Audubon Circle
1830 Koehnen Circle West
805 Ponderosa Drive
805 Ponderosa Drive
7263 Pontiac Circle
824 Lone Eagle Drive
6890 Yuma Drive
6870 Yuma Drive
6900 Yuma Drive
6869 Yuma Drive
6889 Yuma Drive
Nate Bouvet presented the staff report on this item. Commissioner Claybaugh had
questions relating to impervious surface coverage, drainage, and driveway location.
Commissioner Feik asked staff to explain the design of the lot which includes 5 narcels_
Planning Commission Summary — March 16, 2004
the discrepancy regarding placement of the deck, and impervious surface coverage.
Commissioner Lillehaug asked about similar sized lots within 500 feet. Commissioner
Slagle had questions regarding the number of lot area variances granted in the Carver
Beach area and the location of Cree Drive in relation to this site. Chairman Sacchet stated
he wanted to discuss further the issues of impervious surface coverage and the size of
home allowed to meet that requirement, and the location of the driveway as it relates to
tree loss. He also wanted to get a better understanding of how the lots are made up of
smaller parcels. The applicant, Tom Koehnen, 6280 Audubon Circle explained his
project and why he wanted to build on this site. He addressed the issues of tree loss,
driveway placement, size of building and size of lot. Commissioner Feik asked the
applicant to address the concerns from neighbors regarding drainage and if he could
shave off 268 square feet to meet the impervious surface requirement. Commissioner
Slagle asked the applicant if the drawings he submitted were looked at by a professional
engineer or architect. The applicant stated they were taken from the 1927 plat. Chairman
Sacchet opened the public hearing.
Michael Kohane, 6870 Yuma Drive stated he had written a letter addressing four issues,
safety of the road with increased traffic, the 10 foot side yard setbacks being small,
environmental issues with runoff into Lotus Lake, and the variance for the hard surface
coverage. Ally Vogel, 6890 Yuma Drive, which is the lot directly south of this proposal,
stated she also submitted a letter addressing her concerns. A couple items she wanted to
highlight was drainage and their mailbox and fire hydrant being located on this lot. Staff
confirmed that the mailboxes and fire hydrant would stay where they are. Chairman
Sacchet closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Lillehaug asked staff to explain the legal non -conforming lot status. After
comments the following motion was made.
Slagle moved, Lillehaug seconded that the Planning Commission approve Variance
#04-11 for a lot area variance from the required 15,000 square feet for the
construction of a single family residence on a 7,932 square foot lot zoned RSF as
shown on plans dated 2/12/04, with the following conditions:
1. The applicant must submit a building permit before construction.
2. The single family residence must meet required setbacks.
3. Applicant meets the conditions of Ordinance No. 317 (Building Regulations)
4. A tree removal plan that clearly shows all trees 6 inches and larger, and their
designation as removed or saved. The lot may not be clear cut.
5. Tree protection fencing must be installed prior to any work commencing around
all saved trees. Fencing shall remain in place until all construction is completed.
6. The applicant shall plant two overstory, deciduous 2 1/2 inch diameter trees.
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Planning Commission Summary — March 16, 2004
7. The material placed underneath the deck shall allow drainage to occur.
8. The applicant will work with the city to inventory the trees and consider the
best location for the driveway in terms of trees and safety.
9. The applicant will work with the engineering staff to address drainage
concerns on the site.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
RECONSIDERATION OF SUBDIVISION OF WALNUT GROVE 2'
ADDITION, JOHN KLINGELHUTZ, PLANNING CASE #04-10.
Public Present:
Name Address
Susan Remaley
2198 Baneberry Way West
John Klingelhutz
1560 Bluff Creek
Erik Johnson
350 E. Hwy 212, Chaska
Elissa Ellefson
2194 Baneberry Way West.
Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item. Commissioner Claybaugh asked
staff to explain why a PUD and density transfer can't be used in this case. Commissioner
Slagle asked for a quick overview of what had improved since the last time the Planning
Commission saw this application. Commissioner Feik asked staff if they had discussed
the conditions with the applicant. Bob Generous stated he had not personally talked with
the applicant but they had the staff report and hadn't called staff. Commissioner
Lillehaug asked for clarification regarding sewer and water service and abandonment of
the existing septic sewer system, and the width of the storm sewer easement running
between Lots 2 and 3. Chairman Sacchet asked for clarification on the ownership of the
outlot, the style of houses proposed for the lots, the proposed grading and slopes, and the
width of the private drive. Commissioner Claybaugh asked about the condition requiring
inspection of the private driveway, and clarification that in the future an adjacent property
owner couldn't acquire the outlot and ask for a variance for density transfer.
The applicant, John Klingelhutz, 1560 Bluff Creek addressed issues brought up by the
commission regarding ownership of the outlot, stating he will give the outlot to the city.
Chairman Sacchet opened the public hearing. Susan Remaley, 2198 Baneberry Way
West thanked the commission, staff and the developer for the new plan. She asked staff
to clarify where the tum around is located and grading in regards to runoff and drainage.
Elissa Ellefson, 2194 Baneberry Way West expressed concern with the construction
traffic. The applicant stated if it is possible to have construction access off of Galpin,
they will do that. Chairman Sacchet closed the public hearing. After discussion the
following motions were made.
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MARCH 16, 2004
Chairman Sacchet called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Uli Sacchet, Rich Slagle, Craig Claybaugh, Bruce Feik, and
Steve Lillehaug
MEMBERS ABSENT: Bethany Tjornhom and Kurt Papke
STAFF PRESENT: Bob Generous, Senior Planner; Sharmeen Al-Jaff, Senior Planner;
Nate Bouvet, Planning Intern; and Matt Saam, Assistant City Engineer
PUBLIC PRESENT FOR ALL ITEMS:
Debbie Lloyd
Janet & Jerry Paulsen
7302 Laredo Drive
7305 Laredo Drive
PUBLIC HEARING:
REQUEST FOR A 7,068 SQUARE FOOT VARIANCE TO SECTION 20-615(1)
AND A 3.6 PERCENT MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE VARIANCE TO SECTION
20-615(4) OF THE CHANHASSEN CITY CODE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
CONSTRUCTING A HOME AT 795 PONDEROSA DRIVE, ZONED RSF,
PLANNING CASE #04-11.
Public Present:
Name Address
Tom Koehnen
Bruce & Sue Koehnen
Mark Van Guilder
Shelly T. MacGillivray
Ginny Koehnen
Brenda Bjorlin
Randy & Ally Vogel
Michael L.
Chuck Worsfold
Bruce Burrington
Julie & Mark Quiner
6280 Audubon Circle
1830 Koehnen Circle West
805 Ponderosa Drive
805 Ponderosa Drive
7263 Pontiac Circle
824 Lone Eagle Drive
6890 Yuma Drive
6870 Yuma Drive
6900 Yuma Drive
6869 Yuma Drive
6889 Yuma Drive
Nate Bouvet presented the staff report on this item.
Sacchet: Thank you. Questions from staff.
Planning Commissionteeting —March 16, 2004 •
Claybaugh: I have a few questions.
Sacchet: You want to start Craig?
Claybaugh: Let's see here. I just wanted to verify that the overhangs were included in
the square footage calculations for the hard surface.
Bouvet: No they weren't.
Claybaugh: They were not?
Bouvet: No.
Claybaugh: Okay. Isn't if per our city statute or ordinance that they are included? Can
you clarify that for me.
Generous: Not by ordinance. Usually we just count the building or surface area.
Pavement. Patios. Accessory structures.
Claybaugh: So we just use the overhangs with respect to setbacks.
Generous: To setbacks.
Claybaugh: Okay. Let's see here. With respect to the drainage, there was some
neighbors that had forwarded some e-mails, letters to the city and highlighted one of the
major issues in their opinion was the drainage. At which point is that through the
building process, that this applicant would be addressing those drainage issues and
specify how those drainage lines are going to be cut so on and so forth.
Bouvet: It was passed onto the City Engineer and from my records and what he told me,
that there wasn't any.
Claybaugh: City Engineer didn't feel there was any drainage issues to be addressed?
Generous: As part of the building permit process we would review the grading, drainage
and erosion control plan.
Claybaugh: Okay, but at this point the City Engineer has looked at it?
Bouvet: That's correct.
Claybaugh: And with respect to the driveway location, some discussion as well in
regards to that. Could you comment on that?
Bouvet: City staff including the City Engineer talked about that earlier this evening and
relocating it to meet the Yuma Street would actually impede onto the trees that are more
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abundant east and north of the property. So having it where it's at right now was staff's
recommendation would be the best possibility.
Claybaugh: So the end result is, is that the city's position is that it should remain where
shown?
Bouvet: Because it'd be relocating or taking trees down.
Claybaugh: Okay. With respect to the hard surface coverage, was there any discussion?
I understand that 18 foot driveway width isn't necessarily wide but was it discussed that
that was also possibility another opportunity to cut down on that hard surface coverage?
Bouvet: Staff also talked about that and to meet the 25 percent impervious coverage or
lessen the impervious coverage, we'd have to cut back by about 258 square feet so
whether it be the driveway, the garage or the home, roughly about 260 square feet.
Claybaugh: In any event they're going to require a variance.
Bouvet: Right.
Claybaugh: Okay. That's all the questions I have.
Sacchet: Thanks Craig. Any other questions?
Feik: I've got a series. Nathan, we spoke today earlier. Would you please reiterate for
my benefit particularly, on page 1 we talked about the 5 parcels. You had said that that
really isn't 5 separate, it's not 5 lots.
Bouvet: Correct.
Feik: It is this parcel, is that correct?
Bouvet: A lot of the lots in the area are designed similar to this. Essentially the 5 lots
that I was speaking of are within this lot that we're seeking a variance for. So in short the
5 lots are this lot but that's how it was addressed is Lots 2230, or sorry. Lots 2322
through 2326 and we changed the physical address to 795 Ponderosa. So that's how it
was addressed before.
Feik: Secondly, there's a discrepancy on your staff report regarding the deck. The
graphical representation on page 5 and the graphical representation is called the plot plan
in the back. On page 5 the deck appears to project into the setback on the west side and it
does not on the plot plan.
Bouvet: The plot plan that I have here on the table would be the accurate one. It would
meet the 10 foot setback. The discrepancy you're speaking of which on page 5 does
Planning Commission • eting — March 16, 2004 •
appear to be going over the 10 foot setback but it does, it is being proposed to meet the 10
foot setback.
Feik: Continuing on that deck issue, the deck is or is not included in the hard cover?
Bouvet: It is not because it's raised.
Feik: And the height of that deck is approximately?
Bouvet: At the base of the house is going to be 30 inches and a maximum of 4 feet going
along with the property slope.
Feik: Typically, if I understand if a deck is built like that and they put poly and rock
underneath now it becomes hard cover. Is that not correct when we see?
Generous: If they create an impervious surface below that, yes.
Bouvet: And from my understanding, speaking with the applicants, that wasn't the case.
Feik: Okay. Thirdly, you made a statement regarding a lot which is non -conforming
itself that is technically buildable should proceed without, if I understood, I'm
paraphrasing here. If this came in at a 25 percent hard coverage, surface hard coverage, it
would not be here tonight? Is that my understanding?
Bouvet: If it met the 25 percent impervious coverage?
Feik: Yes.
Bouvet: I'll refer that to Bob but.
Generous: If the lot itself met the 75 percent of the ordinance requires or 11,000 square
feet, and they met all the other setbacks, no it wouldn't have to come in for a variance.
Feik: You had to meet the 15,000 square feet as well?
Generous: No, you have to meet 75 percent of that, which is approximately 11,000
square feet.
Feik: And the lot is?
Generous: 7 '/2.
Feik: 7 ''/i, alright. And then I guess the last question is, at this point is, we talk about
reasonable use with the foot print being 1,000 and change square feet. Do you
reasonably believe that the applicant would have reasonable use of this site if he/she
constructed a dwelling that met the hard coverage requirement of 25 percent?
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Bouvet: If it did meet the hard coverage of 25 percent, I believe so. On average. The
smallest footprint that I found for a two story home was about 4'h. 450 square feet. So
it could be given reasonable use. The size of the lot come back into question but it has
been done before.
Feik: Okay, thank you.
Sacchet: Steve, any questions?
Lillehaug: Can you continue on that same lines of areas. What are the similar areas of
the smallest lots within 500 feet?
Bouvet: Going back to it, do you want me to just refer to the smallest to largest?
Lillehaug: Anything underneath the 7900 feet. I think you previously said it but I wasn't
keeping up with you there.
Bouvet: What we have on record, without a home, the smallest lot we found was 3,049
square feet. Without a home.
Lillehaug: How about anything just with a home.
Bouvet: The smallest that I found that's not on city records is 6,098 square feet. I
couldn't find any variances approved or denied for this. The smallest one on record that
was approved with the variances is 8,000 square feet. With a home on the lot.
Lillehaug: Is that within 500 feet?
Bouvet: That's correct.
Lillehaug: That's all I have, thanks. One other quick one.
Sacchet: Yeah, go ahead.
Lillehaug: Who provided the drawing you have there? Typically we would, I would
think we would see a survey. That just looks like a stick figure drawn by possibly staff
here.
Bouvet: That was from the applicant.
Lillehaug: It was from the applicant, okay. Thanks.
Sacchet: Rich.
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Slagle: Just a couple questions. Nathan, I don't know if you can address this or maybe
Bob or Sharmeen but dove tailing with Steve's comments, the Carver Beach subdivision
obviously is a little bit larger than 500 feet from this property and I guess I'm wondering
if you can recall from history, I mean have we had a fair amount of these within Carver
Beach, and would you venture to offer an opinion as to whether most of them have been
approved with variance requests?
Al -Jaffa Lot area variances have all been approved, yes.
Slagle: Okay. Okay. The other question I had is, within 500 feet there was a reference
to Cree Drive, and I apologize for not having got out to the site. Where is Cree Drive
from the subject property?
Bouvet: It's directly northeast.
Slagle: Directly northeast. Okay, so sort of what, to the northeast of Ringo Drive?
Would that be correct?
Bouvet: That's correct. Directly north of Ringo Drive.
Slagle: Okay. Okay, that's it.
Sacchet: I want to dig a little further into a couple of these aspects already questioned.
First of all, the aspect of this being a legally non -conforming lot. That gives the owner
some rights which includes reasonable use.
Bouvet: Correct.
Sacchet: And it's staffs determination that reasonable use is the type of house they're
planning to put there.
Bouvet: That's correct.
Sacchet: Now, one thing that I'm trying to understand is with, in relation to the
impervious surface element. If they would actually meet the impervious surface
requirement. Would they still need the minimum size of house and garage and all those
requirements or would those get impacted?
Bouvet: That's correct. It would meet all the requirements, setbacks, buildable size for
two story home in this district. The code only requires a footprint of 600 square feet.
Sacchet: So they would meet all the requirements. It's not like the city requirements are
actually contributing to them to go over in the impervious.
Bouvet: That's correct.
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Sacchet: Okay. And you mentioned in terms of the trees on the lot that it would have
less impact the driveway going out to Ponderosa. I don't know whether I remember
correctly but I was just out there before the meeting and it seemed to me that there were
actually more trees along Ponderosa, and especially more healthy trees than towards
Yuma. It seemed like the part, the way I read the drawing where the driveway will come
out, if it would come out to Yuma with more or less the configuration of the house and
garage the way it is, actually the main tree we'll cut down is already dead if it would go
to Yuma. And we didn't get a tree survey or a tree inventory for the lot?
Bouvet: No we did not.
Sacchet: We did not at this point. Okay. In terms of the size of the lot, so you're finding
is that we do have lots like in the 8,000 square foot size that we approved building upon.
But not smaller than that so we basically would be setting a new precedent with the
7,500.
Bouvet: From what we have on record, that would be correct. We'd be setting a new
precedent.
Sacchet: Now in terms of those lots being in that area being composed of a collection of
smaller parcels, I want to be clear. I'd like to understand what the status is of these
parcels versus the lots. Let's say somebody has 10 or 20 of these parcels and that's
where they have their house and how subdividable would that be to come in and say well
I only need 10 of my parcels. I want to sell 10 of the other ones that I also own and have
somebody else live there. What governs the rules on that? Can you help me out? I don't
know whether that's you or Bob want to address that.
Generous: Yes, that's the conglomerate of all those lots currently meet the ordinance,
and then they sell some off. Well they can sell it off, they're creating a self created
hardship and so if they come in to request a variance for that, you would be able to deny
the variance on that they created the hardship by reducing the lot size.
Sacchet: So basically it would have to be subdividable into conforming lots in order to
work. If it would be subdivided into non -conforming lots, they would not be buildable.
Generous: Right, because they would be creating the non -conformity.
Sacchet: Okay. Okay, yeah I think that's important to understand too. That's all my
questions for right now. Thank you very much. With that I'd like to ask the applicant to
come forward and if you want to add any additional points in terms of what you're
planning to do. And state your name and address for the record please. Good evening.
Tom Koehnen: Hi commission. My name is Tom Koehnen. I live at 6280 Audubon
Circle in Chanhassen. I've lived in Chanhassen my whole life and what I'd like to do is
put a house on this property obviously for myself and my family so we can raise our
children there, because Chanhassen's a great place to raise kids and we'd like to stay in
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the area. And Carver Beach is one area where a young couple can afford to get started.
We want to put a house on there, and we want to put a decent house that's going to add to
the neighborhood and add to the city of Chanhassen. That's why I have it as big as I can
and close to the maximum hard cover requirement. Basically it's a lot with difficulties
and that's why we're here because it's not your flat, 15,000 square foot lot and I put a lot
of time into trying to situate the house on there so that it works with the existing grade
without having to build retaining walls or take out trees to meet grade, or to take out trees
period because trees are a big part of the area of Carver Beach. I know that the issue of
the trees is very important and if you, you know we don't want to clear cut it at all, and
that's not what we're about to do, or try to do. We just want to get the house on there so
that it fits, so that it works well on the existing lot of record and so that we can make the
driveway that isn't steep and everything, and that is also part of the reason I chose to have
the driveway come out onto Ponderosa. After looking at it all and trying a bunch of
different drawings, designs for houses, this is how I felt it would work best to keep the
natural flow of the land and to keep as many trees as possible. And I guess the last thing
I would like to point out is it is a precedent because this non -conforming lot is smaller
than 8,000 square feet and previously the city was only approved 8,000 square feet but
this lot is 7,932 square feet so we're talking.
Sacchet: Pretty close.
Tom Koehnen: Really dang close. Again I'd like to thank the commission and the staff
for their time in considering this and.
Sacchet: You're very welcome. Let's see, we may have some questions for you. Any
questions from the applicant?
Feik: I have two. We received a couple letters from some neighbors and also in the staff
report some concerns regarding potential nmoff. Are you proposing anything specific to
address runoff from the lot?
Tom Koehnen: Well I haven't heard any specific problems that people have so I don't
know that I can address them.
Feik: They're general concerns.
Tom Koehnen: However during the building process obviously there are.
Feik: I'll paraphrase the concerns so you can address it maybe more better. You're
asking for 28 percent, roughly hard cover versus 25. And the question stem around the
additional hard cover is going to increase the amount of runoff and concern that this
runoff does not impact neighboring properties.
Tom Koehnen: Right. Well I guess, I believe myself, if you look at the lay of the land, it
slopes down towards Yuma and so I believe that any additional runoff is going to run
towards Yuma, or out the driveway onto Ponderosa. I believe that if it does create any
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additional runoff it will go to the street and into the storm sewer management. I don't
believe it will adversely add to any runoff onto any neighboring properties at all by
placing a structure on this property.
Feik: And then lastly, if you had to shave off 268 feet, could you do it?
Tom Koehnen: Well obviously I could do it.
Feik: Okay, thank you.
Sacchet: Any other questions? I have a quick question. Just to be clear, I think you
actually already answered it but you're planning to live there yourself, correct?
Tom Koehnen: Absolutely.
Sacchet: Okay. Okay, just want to be real clear about that. Thank you.
Slagle: I have one.
Sacchet: Go ahead Rich.
Slagle: Have you, there was a mention earlier of who did the renditions of the drawings.
I think it was yourself.
Tom Koehnen: It was.
Slagle: Have you had a professional engineer or architect or anybody look at the site
with you?
Tom Koehnen: No, my drawings that you have in front of you came from the original
1927 plat.
Slagle: Okay. Okay, thank you.
Sacchet: Thank you very much. Now this is a public hearing so anybody who'd like to
address this particular item is welcome to come forward and if you have anything to add.
As was mentioned we have received a couple of letters and comments already of
concerns of neighbors. This is your chance to voice any concerns or issues that you think
we should consider that may not have been mentioned yet so far, or should that be looked
at from a different angle so is there anybody who wants to come, please come forward.
State your name and address for the record.
Michael Kohane: Michael Kohane, 6870 Yuma Drive, Chanhassen. I'm originally from
Australia. I haven't lived in Chanhassen all my life. We've been here about 6 years now,
and I agree with the gentleman that Carver Beach is a very good place. I did send one
letter in and addressed four issues. Safety has not been mentioned here. That road is
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quite a dip. I don't know if any of you have looked at it, and individuals drive there quite
quickly up to get up the hill to exit the area from the lower Carver Beach area. There's a
school bus stop on the actual comer, diagonally opposite from the house. Speeds that we
imagine, we estimate 0 to 15 to 50 mile an hour there. I think the legal limit is around,
should be 30. It is a thoroughfare for a lot of individuals from lower Carver Beach so we
address the safety issues from families already there and also families that may move in,
that it is an issue of increased traffic. I need to just table one thing here, if I can just show
the committee, the big woods rule about Chanhassen development is in the lower Carver
Beach area. There's a number of very large houses there, and as I understand it there's 3
or 4 new ones being built presently, and probably many, many more so we can anticipate
I think probably a 50 percent increase in traffic from that lower Carver Beach area up
through Ponderosa to get out into Kerber Boulevard. Putting a house on that comer that's
not a right angle or a site line issues. There's one stop sign coming from Yuma down to
cross over, but there's no four way stop sign. We've discussed those issues with the city
before and they argue that people need to get some speed up to get up the hill in the
snow, and we accept that at this point in time. But with a driveway coming out of the
house onto Ponderosa, we have great concern about the safety issues. We mentioned
about the setback of 10 feet was quite small. We thought short and difficult to adhere to
when you're building a home like that. And the environmental issues, it's more general
that the legislature, if you read antidotal evidence, they're now measuring the various
pollutants in the water but there is a concern with Lotus Lake. One letter to the
Chanhassen Villager recently, about 6 months ago stated that the man who used to look
out at his dock could see the bottom, now can see half an inch or 2 inches into the water.
Any new property, any new development's going to contribute to the runoff and drainage
issues in this entire area and that's why we thought that if you were considering the first
variance, that the second variance should be of prime concern to you. And then
regarding the land owner denied reasonable use of the property, we understand that that's
fair, but we thought that if you're going to give a 50 percent reduction in terms of the
actual code, which is 15,000 square feet down to 7,900 square feet, that the second
variance again with the hard cover issue relating to the environmental issue of drainage
and Lotus Lake and also the Yuma Drive drainage area which runs off eventually into
Lotus Lake, we'd like to raise those. And then I just had a couple of points from the
initial Nathan's comments. He spoke about the smallest lot size but he didn't mention the
smallest house size on those lots and that's something that I would like to know. I mean
you can have 6 square feet and build something like a sky scraper, so that to me was
confusing. The engineer's drainage report was mentioned antidotally and the local
business would like some more information because there's significant development
happening in that whole area. And as an Australian, this is a big stupid but under a deck
in Australia you don't have to worry about anything except for spiders and snakes, but
here with the runoff issues and things like that, you have to consider pavers or other
issues because if you're just going to have mud dripping through onto the ground and
then running down the street, that's an issue that I would think would be important. And
I think that's about it. So we're just concerned mainly with safety. ...lot busier. Putting
another driveway out onto it and a house on a comer where there's a school bus stop,
drainage issues. Lotus Lake is I think close to being an endangered species. And the
issues of variances maybe considering the hard cover issues. Thank you.
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Sacchet: Thank you very much. Anybody else want to speak up? This is your chance.
Seeing nobody, yes. Please come forward.
Ally Vogel: Hello. My name's Ally Vogel and I live in the lot directly to the south of
the proposed site. 6890 Yuma. I did submit some written comments for you all to look
at, so I won't go through all that again but a couple of the points to highlight again being
the drainage issue. My husband and I currently do have some washout simply from the
lay of the land at Yuma. Our driveway is currently gravel and there is towards the end of
the driveway a lot of washout into our yard space already, and then also around our
garage area there is already some erosion to the ground in the land there. The other thing
that hasn't been brought up is that lot does have our mailboxes and a fire hydrant on it so
I didn't know if there was a proposal to move those. Where those would be located or
how those would be affected. Thanks.
Sacchet: Thank you. Do we know what would happen with the hydrant and mailboxes?
Any wisdom on that from staff?
Bouvet: From the photographs and from other sources, I don't see how that would be an
issue. Blocking access to the property or construction of the property because it is
literally the mailboxes and the hydrants are on the comer of Yuma and Ponderosa.
Sacchet: So what you're saying is they could stay there or?
Bouvet: Correct.
Sacchet: Okay. Alright, then that answers that one. Is there anybody else before we get
into more discussion? Anybody else who wants to address this item? Otherwise I'll
close the public hearing. Nobody else want to speak up? Okay. I'll close the public
hearing. Bring it back to the commission. In terms of the comments that were brought
up, if staff could address the safety issue a little bit that came up in both the comments of
the neighbors. If there are, where are we at with safety in this place? I noticed Yuma is
actually a one way street. The house is kind of elevated so does it really impact sight?
Generous: Not sight and it's back far enough I would think. As a single family home, on
average they general 10 trips a day. I don't know if that's significant on a local street.
Sacchet: In terms of the one comment was the setback and the standard in the city. I
mean it's 30 feet from the road since it's a comer lot it has to have 30 feet from both
Yuma and Ponderosa and then the 10 feet is the side yard setback towards the other two
sides right? Okay. And those are given, everybody gets the same with that. Alright,
bring it back to commission. Discussion. Comments. Who wants to start? Want to start
Steve?
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Lillehaug: Sure. I have a few questions here to clarify a few things. hi your report on
page 4 you say that it's a legal non -conforming lot because it was recorded back in 1972.
But it was recorded as 5 parcels back in 1972, correct?
Generous: Yes, as 5 lots.
Lillehaug: So 5 lots, so each of them 5 lots, they weren't legal non -conforming lots.
Generous: No, each lot was but through assembly he created, they created that 5 lot
parcel.
Lillehaug: So when were they assembled into one lot? Because I'm having problems
with this. This is very, very, very small and the only reason that I would approve it is
because staff is saying it's a legal non -conforming lot and we have to provide the
applicant reasonable use and that's the only reason I would support this. So I want to be
clear why this is a legal non -conforming lot. Is it currently are those 5 parcels recorded?
Do they have one property identification number with the county?
Generous: That's correct.
Lillehaug: And then when would that have been recorded under a single PIN number?
Generous: I assume in '67 when the parcel was purchased.
Lillehaug: Back in '67. Okay so.
Generous: Maybe before then but they didn't search any sooner than that.
Bouvet: We don't have anything on record before 1967 pertaining to who bought it, who
had it.
Lillehaug: So basically it really that's what staffs position is, if it's recorded like that,
that's what makes it a legal non -conforming lot. Well, going the other direction, what
other tools could the city use to prevent the house from being put on there or to allow the
applicant a reasonable use other than putting a single family house there, because it's just
too small for a house.
Generous: You could purchase the property.
Lillehaug: The City would purchase it? I'm not going to.
Generous: The City would, yes. Or if you could show that there's a public health, safety
or welfare issue resulting from the development of the lot, then you could stop
development on it. But it doesn't, just because it's smaller than the rest of the lots
doesn't mean that you create that situation.
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Lillehaug: Because right now the city draws a line at 11,000 square feet. Well that's
what the ordinance says. 75 percent of 15,000. Specifically really for this purpose to
limit the minimum size of a legal lot. Right? Or not.
Generous: Well that's part of our discussion later. ...the city attorney's office advised us
on that, that that really is, it's not a magical number. If you look at just meeting the
minimum ordinance requirements for lot size and 2 car garage and a driveway that
corresponds with that, you're about 60 percent of the 15,000 and you can do it and meet
setbacks. Could you do under, at 50 percent? Sure. This one could if he knocks off 260
square feet he can meet the lot coverage, so. And still comply with our minimum house
sizes that our ordinance specifies later.
Lillehaug: So if this went down to 6,500 feet, which it's not. Just as an example. You
know we're getting down into that area right where it's at right now it's just right on the
bubble. It's almost just too small for a house. If it was 5,000 feet, what would the city
do? I'm just trying to figure out what else we can do here?
Generous: Well it depends what that 5,000 feet, do you have a 10 foot by 10 foot house?
Well then it doesn't meet our minimum house size and then a reasonable use of it may
not be for a single family home. So if we change, it depends on how big or small you
specify your minimum house sizes and what pertinences you need. Do we need a 2 car
garage for every home? If you don't, then you can reduce lot sizes further.
Lillehaug: Okay I'll try to, I'm almost done here. By the applicant recording that at the
county with one property identification number, does that mean, does that guarantee him
that he can have a house there though?
Generous: No, only the city can guarantee that he has a house.
Lillehaug: So if it was a 300 square foot lot you could still get a PIN number for that lot?
Generous: Yes. But you can get that for a wetland and you can't develop a wetland. In
that instance you'd say you bought a wetland. That's then what you want it for.
Lillehaug: So that's why I'm trying to get to a point is, just because, what makes it a
legal non -conforming lot? What exactly makes that a legal non -conforming lot, and it's
not clear in my mind.
Al-Jaff: It was created prior to adoption of the subdivision ordinance and the ordinance
that regulates the size of the lot. Those parcels, those five 20 by 100, typically Carver
Beach, 20 by 100 parcels were in single ownership. None of these parcels have been, it
wasn't 7 parcels once upon a time where he sold off 2. It's always been 5...
Lillehaug: It's always been 5.
AI-Jaff: The same ownership.
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Lillehaug: Okay. Well everything is pointing me not to support this. You know ranging
from lot size to traffic. I guess that's all I have for comments, thanks.
Sacchet: Okay.
Feik: Yes. I've got some comments here as well. As far as I'm concerned, we cannot
deny reasonable use to a landowner in this case. The question then becomes what is
reasonable use in my mind. Clearly some other neighbors in the proximity of this house
have said that a smaller home is reasonable. They're currently living in them. The
applicant himself acknowledges that he could meet the 25 percent hard coverage if
required to. He'd prefer not to. I understand that but it could be, he could do it, so
therefore you know I'm looking at okay how do we mitigate this and move forward.
Some day someone's going to build something there, in my mind. Whether it's this
applicant or someone else. I guess I'd rather deal with it now. My concerns would be, I
could support it under some conditions that one, it does meet the 25 percent coverage.
That there would be acknowledgement in here that there would be no further
intensification of the lot going forward, including patio, sheds, out buildings, any other
structures. That no impervious materials would be used below the deck area. You know
some things like that so that we have some reasonable understandings that indeed the
hard coverage would be no greater than 25 percent. It's a small lot. It's a small house. I
could certainly see the applicant putting in a single car parking space, you know or
something like that. I mean I lived in a 600 square foot house when I first got married.
That was the whole thing. So you know what, it's definition of reasonable use. I think
with a 25 percent hard coverage, if we can get there, I don't necessarily like it totally but
I don't see a reason to deny it at that point.
Sacchet: Thanks Bruce. Craig.
Claybaugh: Yes. As Commissioner Lillehaug stated, it's a lot that is on the bubble. You
start to get down to the square footage requirements where it doesn't seem possible to
quite meet what we consider the typical 2 car garage, single family dwelling, sidewalks,
so on and so forth. Another 1,000 square feet added to the lot and it becomes
dramatically more achievable. That being said, I guess my position or my feelings about
this particular application is that the house that's going to be put on this lot, and I do
believe that there will be, if not now, in the future a single family dwelling placed on this
lot, is dictated by the lot size. Not by the size of the family considering building on a
particular lot. And as such I would look to hold the applicant to meet that 25 percent
coverage requirement and I would leave it at their disposal whether that was a
compromise on the garage, square footage of the home, width of the driveway or a
combination of all the above. And if that isn't the case, this may not be the lot for you. I
believe that again, that it's very important to focus that it is a developable lot. That is
reasonable use but that being said, it isn't an automatic that you build a house to the
square footage that you need. This just may not be the lot for you is all. That's the end
of my comments.
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Sacchet: Thanks Craig. Rich, no comment? Question from staff. One car garage would
not meet city requirement?
Generous: That's correct.
Sacchet: So they would need a variance if they would want to make a one car garage?
How's that work?
Generous: I don't even know if you can get a variance. Our variances are setback.
Sacchet: So what would we do if they say well we really only need one car and that
solves the issue with the hard cover and probably more than solves it considering the
driveway's going to be more narrow. What would they do?
Generous: I think there's other ways for them to meet the 25 percent. They can go with
a smaller garage.
Sacchet: They can just make it smaller.
Generous: Less driveway width.
Claybaugh: Right, the statute 20-905 states a two story building must have an area of
600 square feet to meet their requirement. This is 1,008 square feet. If they shrink the
size of the garage, shrink the size of the house, compromise on the driveway, there's a
way to achieve it. Meet the city ordinances with respect to the house, the garage, and the
other ancillary needs and still get their, like I said. My point is that it just may not be
enough to meet this particular applicant's needs.
Generous: Right.
Sacchet: Okay. I think that's all. Oh, I have one more comment about aspect of, in the
findings. Finding with letter C. It's about, it states that it doesn't appear the case that the
applicant is trying to increase the value or income potential and I think the applicant
addressed that by stating that they really want to live there themselves but for staff I
would like you to note that if in the documentation, the findings of fact, if it should say
this does not appear. You have to spell out what this means, otherwise it doesn't mean
anything. Especially on what is that called, the next page after that. The thing that's
supposed to be signed as a legal document. That will need to be fixed. But I don't have
any further comments so.
Feik: I have one more question though.
Sacchet: Go ahead Bruce.
Feik: My question is, as a body here, if this does move forward and I'm assuming for
just a moment that it would move forward at 25 percent. How do we ensure, not for this
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applicant necessarily, because I will give the benefit of the doubt that this applicant is
ethical on everything. How do we ensure that the second or third owner of this parcel
understands at purchase that they can't do anything with this thing? Can we put
something on the title? Is there any way that you can do something that a further owner
might be notified that if they're considering purchasing this house in 5 years, that you
know, they're precluded from adding additional hard cover. Is there anything we can do
or is it just on faith?
Generous: The variances themselves are recorded at the Carver County against the
property, so whatever you approve with the conditions are recorded against the property
in the records.
Slagle: But point of clarification though, that would allow, just like any other property, a
future homeowner to apply for a variance?
Generous: Yes, you can't limit someone's ability in the future.
Feik: But our comments or the requirements, the conditions I should say of that variance
would be listed on that variance statement so that theoretically if they hired a qualified
attorney when they purchased the lot or something, they would be notified.
Generous: That there are encumbrances.
Feik: So it's a little buyer beware there.
Generous: Yes.
Feik: Alright, I'm fine with that then.
Generous: And also, depending on how you structure the variance, the next person may
be, if he goes to a 600 square foot house and he's at 22 percent, the next person might be
able to do a small addition, as long as he's under the 25 percent.
Feik: I understand that.
Sacchet: I have a few more things too actually. If this does get forward, well it's going
to get forwarded from here to City Council one way or another, but assuming that we find
some agreement that building a small house is reasonable use, which it seems like we're
sort of leaning that direction. Would it be possible to request that a little more detail gets
added about the trees? And access possibly from Yuma Drive, and also how that relates
to safety. That's some aspect that would be good to look at it further as it goes to
council. As well as drainage. Drainage aspects that get further looked at by our
engineering. That I think would be reasonable.
Claybaugh: Could that be communicated to the affected neighbors? I know that some of
the people that are up and spoke said that in general terms that the city engineer had
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looked at it and the rest of it but there wasn't any feedback or any relative information
available to them to address their specific concerns.
Sacchet: Yeah, that could be shared with the neighbors since there is obviously concern
at least amongst some of the neighbors about that. Yeah, okay. Let's move on.
Anything else?
Claybaugh: I have nothing to add.
Lillehaug: One other thing?
Slagle: I was going to say I'll make a motion.
Lillehaug: Can I ask one more thing?
Sacchet: Yes, you can ask one more.
Lillehaug: As far as a survey for the property goes, will there be a survey that would be
recorded with the building permit?
Generous: With the building permit.
Lillehaug: Okay, that's it. Thanks.
Slagle: I can make a motion. I recommend that the Planning Commission approve
Variance #04-11, and that's assuming that it did not include maximum lot coverage
variance, but for lot area variance from the required 15,000 square feet for the
construction of a single family residence on 7,932 square foot lot zoned RSF period, with
the following conditions, and I would just add if staff thinks it's appropriate, that the
applicant will not exceed the 25 percent lot coverage variance.
Sacchet: We've got a motion. Is there a second?
Lillehaug: Second.
Feik: Friendly amendments maybe? Your, point of clarification. Whether your last
point, that is a condition or it is a something for staff to consider, the 25 percent hard
cover?
Slagle: Well since my motion doesn't include a variance for the 25 percent, I sort of
think we don't even need to include it.
Generous: Right.
Sacchet: Right, it does not include the variance for the exceeding the 25 percent so they
would be held to that.
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Feik: Alright. Then I guess my comments become moot.
Sacchet: Any further discussion?
Claybaugh: Friendly amendment? With respect to the coverage under the deck, if the
city could specify a type R or equal fabric barrier in lieu of any poly to allow additional
drainage.
Slagle: I'll accept that.
Sacchet: I have a question still for staff, if you allow me. If we approve this, it doesn't
go to City Council, correct?
Generous: If you approve it by 75 percent or more, that's a final decision. It is appeal
able within 4 business days. If not, then it goes.
Sacchet: It's appeal able by anybody?
Generous: Anybody.
Sacchet: Okay. So we need at least 4 of us voting for this. Then it would not go to City
Council. Because if that's the case, how would we further look into that tree inventory
and the location of the driveway and this safety aspect and drainage.
Feik: Make a condition.
Sacchet: Okay, so okay. That helps. So I'd like to make a friendly amendment. Thanks
for clarifying. I'd like to add a few more additional conditions. I'd like to add the
condition that the applicant will provide, work with the city to inventory the trees and
consider what the best location is of the driveway in terms of trees and in terms of safety.
And what the, how the safety impact can be minimized. And then another friendly, is
that acceptable?
Slagle: (Yes).
Sacchet: Another friendly amendment that the applicant work with, I guess that would be
engineering of the city to look into any possible drainage issues and how they could be
mitigated, if that would be deemed appropriate. Does that make sense to our engineer
there? Yeah, okay. Is that acceptable?
Slagle: (Yes).
Sacchet: And I think that's it. Yep. We have a motion. We have some friendly
amendments.
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Planning Commission Meeting — March 16, 2004 •
Slagle moved, Lillehaug seconded that the Planning Commission approve Variance
#04-11 for a lot area variance from the required 15,000 square feet for the
construction of a single family residence on a 7,932 square foot lot zoned RSF as
shown on plans dated 2/12/04, with the following conditions:
1. The applicant must submit a building permit before construction.
2. The single family residence must meet required setbacks.
3. Applicant meets the conditions of Ordinance No. 317 (Building Regulations).
4. A tree removal plan that clearly shows all trees 6 inches and larger, and their
designation as removed or saved. The lot may not be clear cut.
5. Tree protection fencing must be installed prior to any work commencing around
all saved trees. Fencing shall remain in place until all construction is completed.
6. The applicant shall plant two overstory, deciduous 2 1/2 inch diameter trees.
7. The material placed underneath the deck shall allow drainage to occur.
8. The applicant will work with the city to inventory the trees and consider the
best location for the driveway in terms of trees and safety.
9. The applicant will work with the engineering staff to address drainage
concerns on the site.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
Feik: Excuse me, if you might, staff if you could make a note going forward into your
files that in the future if an owner of this parcel comes in for a shed, you know permits
for sheds or other things that might not meet the hurdle of variance, normal variance
considerations and other stuff, that this be reviewed. Thank you.
Generous: We can also put the variance in the parcel, in the building permit file for this.
Feik: That would be good too. Thank you.
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PROPOSAL: Request for a lot area variance from the required 15,000 square feet and a maximum
lot coverage variance from the required 25 percent maximum for the construction of
a single-family residence on a 7,932 square foot lot, zoned RSF.
LOCATION: 795 Ponderosa Drive; Part of Carver Beach Section 1, Township 116, Range 23.
APPLICANT: Thomas Koehnen
6280 Audubon Circle #6
Excelsior, MN 55331
PRESENT ZONING: Residential Single -Family (RSF)
2020 LAND USE PLAN: Residential — Low Density
ACREAGE: .1821 DENSITY: NA
SUMMARY OF REQUEST:
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The applicant is requesting a lot area variance from the required 15,000 square feet and a maximum
lot coverage variance from the required 25 percent maximum for the construction of a single-family
residence. Staff is recommending approval of the request.
LEVEL OF CITY DISCRETION IN DECISION-MAKING:
The City's discretion in approving or denying a variance is limited to whether or not the proposed
Project meets the standards in the Zoning Ordinance for a variance. The City has a relatively high
level of discretion with a variance because the applicant is seeking a deviation from established
standards. This is a quasi-judicial decision.
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PROPOSAL SUMMARY
The subject lot is located in the Carver Beach Subdivision. This subdivision was created in 1927, which
predates the zoning ordinance. The applicant is the son of the owner who has been in ownership of the 5
parcels (795 Ponderosa Drive) since 1967. These lots were never part of a larger parcel. The applicant is
requesting a lot area variance to Section 20-615(1) and a maximum lot coverage variance to Section
20-615(4) of the Chanhassen City Code for the construction of a single-family residence. The site is
currently vacant and the applicant proposes to construct a 28' x 36' 1,728 square foot (1,008 sq. ft.
footprint) single-family home and a 24'x 26'(624 sq. ft.) garage. The lot is a legal nonconforming lot
predating the zoning ordinance. The zoning ordinance requires a 15,000 square foot lot and 25 percent
maximum lot coverage.
Section 20-905(2) states all single-family detached homes shall:
(b) If a split-level design, have an area of one thousand fifty (1,050) square feet.
(c) If a split foyer or two-story design, have an area of six hundred (600) square feet on the fust floor.
The property is located at 795 Ponderosa Drive; part of Section 1, Township 116, Range 23. The lot is
zoned Residential Single -Family, RSF, which intends to provide for single-family residential
subdivisions. Access to the site is gained via Ponderosa Drive (a local street).
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APPLICABLE REGULATIONS
DIVISION 4. NONCONFORMING USES'
Sec. 20-71. Purpose
The purpose of this division is:
(1) To recognize the existence of uses, lots, and structures which were lawful when established,
but which no longer meet all ordinance requirements;
(2) To prevent the enlargement, expansion, intensification, or extension of any nonconforming
use, building, or structure;
(3) To encourage the elimination of nonconforming uses, lots, and structures or reduce their
impact on adjacent properties.
Sec. 20-73. Nonconforming Lots of Record
(b) No variance shall be required to construct a detached single-family dwelling on a
nonconforming lot provided that it fronts on a public street or approved private street and
provided that the depth and area measurements are at least seventy-five (75) percent of the
minimum requirements of this chapter.
(c) Except as otherwise specifically provided for detached single-family dwellings, there shall be
no expansion, intensification, replacement, or structural changes of a structure on a
nonconforming lot.
(d) If two or more contiguous lots are in single ownership and if all or part of the lots does not
meet the width and area requirements of this chapter for lots in the district, the contiguous lots
shall be considered to be an undivided parcel for the purpose of this chapter. If part of a
parcel is sold, the sale shall constitute a self-created hardship under the variance provisions of
this chapter.
Section 20-615. Lot Requirements and Setbacks
(1) The minimum lot area is fifteen thousand (15,000) square feet. For neck and flag lots, the lot
area requirements shall be met after the area contained within the "neck" has been excluded
from consideration.
(4) The maximum lot coverage for all structures and paved surfaces is twenty-five (25) percent.
The lot, located in the Carver Beach Subdivision, was created in July of 1927, prior to the adoption of the
1972 zoning ordinance. Due to the date of the subdivision and the unique shape of the lot, the existing
7,932 square foot lot does not conform to the required 15,000 square foot lot size requirement as stated in
Section 20-615(1) of the Chanhassen City Code and will require a lot area variance of 7,068 sq. ft.
Additionally, this parcel can only accommodate a maximum hard surface coverage of 1,983 square feet
(25%) as specified in Section 20-615(4). This area includes all non -permeable surfaces (house, garage,
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sidewalk and driveway). The applicant is requesting a total hard surface coverage of 2,267 square feet
(28.6%) which would require a 3.6 percent variance to Section 20-615(4).
The applicant is proposing to construct a single-family residence on an existing nonconforming 7,932
square foot lot with a hard surface coverage of 2,267 square foot or 28.6 percent of the lot. The use of this
nonconforming lot requires a variance of 7,068 sq. ft. feet and a 3.6 percent variance to be approved
before construction will be allowed
The parcel is a comer lot with two front and two side yards. The proposed single-family residence would
meet all required setbacks for RSF districts (front yards, thirty (30) feet, and side yards, ten (10) feet).
ANALYSIS
The applicant has a 7,932 square foot lot and is requesting a 3.6 percent hard surface coverage variance to
the 25% permitted by ordinance. The purpose of this request is to allow the construction of a single-
family residence. While the city code states in Sec. 20-73(b), "no variance shall be required to construct
a detached single-family dwelling on a nonconforming lot provided that it fronts on a public street or
approved private street and provided that the width and area measurements are at least seventy-five (75)
percent of the minimum requirements of this chapter" a variance for lot area is required for a lot that does
not meet the 75 percent requirement. This language is unique to the City Code. The fact is that the subject
site is a lot of record therefore must be given a reasonable use. The proposed home meets all district
standards (2 car garage, square footage, setbacks) except for impervious surface. Therefore, staff believes
a reasonable use of the property can be made.
Since the earliest record we located, it appears that the existing lot is a legal nonconforming lot because it
was subdivided before the adoption of the 1972 zoning ordinance. Since the lot does not meet the lot area
specified in Sec. 20-615(1) requiring 15,000 square feet and Sec. 20-615(4) requiring a 25% maximum
hard surface coverage, the City must grant a variance before any construction can take place.
The parcel is an existing lot of record containing five Carver Beach lots (2322-2326). The subject site has
109.1 feet of street frontage on Yuma Drive and 57.52 feet of frontage on Ponderosa Drive. From the plot
plan, it appears that a single-family residence could be located within the required setbacks of the RSF
District.
The property, if the single-family residence is approved, will have an impervious coverage of 28.6%
(including the proposed garage, driveway, and walkway); 3.6% over the required 25% maximum.
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The applicant is proposing to maintain the existing nonconforming lot to construct a single-family
residence. This will not change the current 7,932 sq. ft. lot size; however, it will have an impervious
coverage of 28.6%. As stated above, from Section 20.615(1), the minimum lot area is fifteen thousand
(15,000) square feet. Thus, the applicant is requesting a 7,068 sq. ft. lot size variance to construct the
single-family home on the existing nonconforming lot.
Many of the neighboring properties have nonconforming lot sizes not meeting the 15,000 square foot
minimum. Several neighbors near or adjacent to the nonconforming lot have had variances approved to
construct a new home on a nonconforming lot on file in the city's planning department.
Staff has reviewed properties within 500 feet and compiled the following list of variances:
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750 Cree Drive
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Staff is recommending approval of this request based upon the following:
The Planning Commission shall not grant a variance unless they find the following facts:
a. That the literal enforcement of this chapter would cause an undue hardship. Undue hardship
means that the property cannot be put to reasonable use because of its size, physical surroundings,
shape or topography. Reasonable use includes a use made by a majority of comparable property
within 500 feet of it. The intent of this provision is not to allow a proliferation of variances, but to
recognize that there are pre-existing standards in this neighborhood. Variances that blend with
these pre-existing standards without departing downward from them meet this criterion.
Finding: Staff conducted a survey within 500 feet of the surrounding area and discovered that the
average lot size is 13,586 square feet (54 total parcels). There are a number of lots within 500 feet
that have a smaller area than the subject lot. The proposed home meets the required setbacks and
would be similar in size to existing residences (1,728 sq. ft.). Homes adjacent or near the
nonconforming lot vary from single and two-story homes ranging from 912 square feet to greater
than 2,000 square feet. Without a variance, the applicant would be denied reasonable use of his
property.
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b. The conditions upon which a petition for a variance is based are not applicable, generally, to other
properties within the same zoning classification.
Finding. The condition upon which this petition for a variance is based is applicable to other
properties within the same zoning classification outside of the immediate area. Staff conducted a
survey within 500 feet of the surrounding area and of the 54 parcels within 500 feet of said
property the average lot size as a whole is 13,586 square feet. Whereas the smallest lot was 3,049
square feet and the largest was 38,768 square feet.
C. The purpose of the variation is not based upon a desire to increase the value or income potential of
the parcel of land.
Finding: This does not appear to be the case. The applicant is simply attempting to utilize the
parcel for single-family residential uses it was created for.
d. The alleged difficulty or hardship is not a self-created hardship.
Finding: The hardship is not self-created. The parcel is an existing lot of record.
e. The granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to other land
or improvements in the neighborhood in which the parcel is located.
Finding. The granting of the variance will not be detrimental or injurious to other land or
improvements in the neighborhood, meets all RSF District standards except for impervious
surface.
f. The proposed variation will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to adjacent property or
substantially increase the congestion of the public streets or increase the danger of fine or endanger
the public safety or substantially diminish or impair property values within the neighborhood.
Finding: The granting of the variance will allow a reasonable distance from adjacent properties.
The applicant has demonstrated that all setbacks required by the City Code can be met. It will not
impair an adequate supply of light and air to those properties, nor will it increase the congestion of
the public streets or increase the danger of fire or endanger the public safety or substantially
diminish or impair property values within the neighborhood.
The hardship was not self-created and staff is recommending approval of this application. The applicant
worked to minimize any variance requests.
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RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission adopt the following motion:
"The Planning Commission approve Variance #04-11 for a lot area variance from the required 15,000
square feet and a maximum lot coverage variance from the required 25 percent maximum for the
construction of a single-family residence on a 7,932 square foot lot, zoned RSF as shown on plans
dated 2/12/04, with the following conditions:
1. The applicant must submit a building permit before construction.
2. The single-family residence must meet required setbacks.
3. Applicant meets the conditions of Ordinance No. 317 (Building Regulations).
4. A tree removal plan that clearly shows all trees, 6" and larger, and their designation as removed
or saved. The lot may not be clear-cut.
5. Tree protection fencing must be installed prior to any work commencing around all saved trees.
Fencing shall remain in place until all construction is completed.
6. The applicant shall plant two overstory, deciduous, 2-1/2" diameter trees.
ATTACHMENTS
1. Findings of Fact and Recommendation.
2. Application.
3. Plot Plan showing location of home.
4. Letter from Thomas and Erica Koehnen dated February 2004.
5. Tentative -Proposed Elevations & Floor Plans .
6. Statement of Sale- Lease of Forfeited Lands.
7. Carver Beach subdivision.
8. Ordinance No. 317 (Building Regulations).
9. Letter from Ally Vogel dated March 8, 2004.
10. Notice of Public Hearing and Notified Property Owners List.
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
FINDINGS OF FACT
AND RECOMMENDATION
IN RE: The application of Thomas and Erica Koehnen, 795 Ponderosa Drive
(Lots 2322-2326) - Variance No. 04-11
On March 16, 2004, the Chanhassen Planning Commission met at its regularly scheduled
meeting to consider the application of Thomas and Erica Koehnen for a 7,068 square foot
variance to Section 20-615(1) and a 3.6 percent maximum lot coverage variance to Section 20-
615(4) of the Chanhassen City Code for the purpose of constructing a home at 795 Ponderosa
Drive.
The Planning Commission conducted a public hearing on the proposed development which was
preceded by published and mailed notice. The Planning Commission heard testimony from all
interested persons wishing to speak and now makes the following:
FINDINGS OF FACT
1. The property is currently zoned RSF, Residential Single -Family.
2. The property is guided by the Land Use Plan for Residential, Low Density.
3. The legal description of the property is: Part of Carver Beach Section 1, Township 116,
Range 23, Lots 2322-2326.
4. The Planning Commission shall not grant a variance unless they find the following facts:
• Staff conducted a survey within 500 feet of the surrounding area and discovered that the
average lot size is 13,586 square feet. There are a number of lots within 500 feet that
have a smaller area than the subject lot. The proposed home meets the required setbacks
and would be similar in size to existing residences. Without a variance, the applicant
would be denied reasonable use of his property.
• The condition upon which this petition for a variance is based is applicable to other
properties within the same zoning classification outside of the immediate area. Staff
conducted a survey within 500 feet of the surrounding area and of the 54 parcels within
500 feet of said property the average lot size as a whole is 13,586 square feet. Whereas
the smallest lot was 3,049 square feet and the largest was 38,768 square feet.
• This does not appear to be the case. The applicant is simply attempting to utilize the
parcel for single-family residential uses it was created for.
• The hardship is not self-created. The parcel is an existing lot of record.
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The granting of the variance will not be detrimental or injurious to other land or
improvements in the neighborhood, meets all RSF District standards except for
impervious surface.
The granting of the variance will allow a reasonable distance from adjacent properties.
The applicant has demonstrated that all setbacks required by the City Code can be met.
It will not impair an adequate supply of light and air to those properties, nor will it
increase the congestion of the public streets or increase the danger of fire or endanger
the public safety or substantially diminish or impair property values within the
neighborhood.
RECONEWENDATION
"The Planning Commission approve Variance 1104-11 for a lot area variance from the required
15,000 square feet and a maximum lot coverage variance from the required 25 percent maximum
for the construction of a single-family residence on a 7,932 square foot lot, zoned RSF as shown
on plans dated 2/12/04, with the following conditions:
1. The applicant must submit a building permit before construction.
2. The single family residence must meet required setbacks.
3. Applicant meets the conditions of Ordinance No. 317.
4. A tree removal plan that clearly shows all trees, 6" and larger, and their designation as
removed or saved. The lot may not be clear-cut.
5. Tree protection fencing must be installed prior to any work commencing around all saved
trees. Fencing shall remain in place until all construction is completed.
6. The applicant shall plant two overstory, deciduous, 2-1/2" diameter trees.
ADOPTED by the Chanhassen Planning Commission this 16`s day of March, 2004.
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMAUSSION
BY:
Uli Sacchet, Chairman
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DEVELOPMENT REVIEW APPLICATION CHANHASSEN PLANNING DEPT
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Planned Unit Development'
Zoning Appeal
Rezoning
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Sign Permits
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A list of all property owners within 500 feet of the boundaries of the property must be included with the
application.
Building material samples must be submitted with site plan reviews.
'Twenty-six full size folded copies of the plans must be submitted, including an 81/2" X 11" reduced copy
for each plan sheet.
" Escrow will be required for other applications through the development contract
NOTE - When multiple applications are processed, the appropriate fee shall be charged for each application.
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This application must be completed in full and be typewritten or clearly printed and must be accompanied by all information
and plans required by applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before filing this application, you should confer with the Planning
Department to determine the specific ordinance and procedural requirements applicable to your application.
A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within ten business days of application submittal. A written
notice of application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within ten business days of application.
This is to certify that I am making application for the described action by the City and that I am responsible for complying with
all City requirements with regard to this request. This application should be processed in my name and I am the party whom
the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application. I have attached a copy of proof of ownership (either
copy of Owner's Duplicate Certificate of Title, Abstract of Title or purchase agreement), or I am the authorized person to make
this application and the fee owner has also signed this application.
I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I further
understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any
authorization to proceed with the study. The documents and information I have submitted are true and correct to the best of
my knowledge.
The city hereby notifies the applicant that development review cannot be completed within 60 days due to public hearing
requirements and agency review. Therefore, the city is notifying the applicant that the city requires an automatic 60 day
extension for development review. Development review shall be completed within 120 days unless additional review
extensions are approved by the applicant.
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The applicant should contact staff for a copy of the staff report which will be available on Friday prior to the meeting.
If not contacted, a copy of the report will be mailed to the applicant's address.
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This application must be completed in full and be typewritten or clearly printed and must be accompanied by all information
and plans required by applicable City Ordinance provisions. Before filing this application, you should confer with the Planning
Department to determine the specific ordinance and procedural requirements applicable to your application.
A determination of completeness of the application shall be made within ten business days of application submittal. A written
notice of application deficiencies shall be mailed to the applicant within ten business days of application.
This is to certify that I am making application for the described action by the City and that I am responsible for complying with
all City requirements with regard to this request. This application should be processed in my name and I am the party whom
the City should contact regarding any matter pertaining to this application. I have attached a copy of proof of ownership (either
copy of Owner's Duplicate Certificate of Title, Abstract of Title or purchase agreement), or I am the authorized person to make
this application and the fee owner has also signed this application.
I will keep myself informed of the deadlines for submission of material and the progress of this application. I further
understand that additional fees may be charged for consulting fees, feasibility studies, etc. with an estimate prior to any
authorization to proceed with the study. The documents and information I have submitted are true and correct to the best of
my knowledge.
The city hereby notifies the applicant that development review cannot be completed within 60 days due to public hearing
requirements and agency review. Therefore, the city is notifying the applicant that the city requires an automatic 60 day
extension for development review. Development review shall be completed within 120 days unless additional review
extensions are appro�by the applicant.
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The applicant should contact staff for a copy of the staff report which will be available on Friday prior to the meeting.
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Variance Request Justification
For Thomas & Erica Koehnen
We are asking for a variance to the minimum buildable lot size and
the twenty-five percent hard cover requirement. We are asking for
this variance because we would like to build a house on lots 2322-
2326 in Carver Beach - the southwest corner of Ponderosa drive and
Yuma drive. These lots do not meet the minimum buildable lots size.
The lot size is 7,932 square feet. The house we would like to build on
these lots including the driveway and sidewalks is 2,267 square feet.
This would be 28.6 percent. This is greater than the maximum
twenty-five percent hard cover requirement. We need to exceed the
maximum hard cover requirement in this case to meet the various
minimum requirements that are mandated by the building code in the
city. Some of theses requirements are that we need to include a two -
car garage and meet a requirement of a minimum house size for a
given layout. The property is located in the Carver Beach
neighborhood, which as a whole is composed of non -conforming lots
with houses built on them. Building a house here is a reasonable use
of this property. A smaller modest house on this property is wholly in
keeping with the existing standards of the neighborhood.
My grandfather Harlan Koehnen bought this property in 1967 as one
parcel and it has sat in the same state ever since. The purpose of
this variance is for us to build our first house for our new son and us
to live in.
The granting of this variance will not cause harm to any land or
homes in the neighborhood. The house we would build if this
variance were granted would not impair the adequate light or air
supply to the adjacent dwellings since the two adjacent dwellings are
oriented such that their garages and not the homes face the property.
Adding one family to the neighborhood will not substantially add traffic
and developing this vacant lot will not significantly lower any property
values or detract from the public welfare.
The Koehnen family has deep roots in the City of Chanhassen.
Thomas' great grandparents settled in the southern part of
Chanhassen near the turn of the last century. Since then his
grandparents, parents; and he have all lived in the city their entire
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lives. We would very much like to continue to live and raise a family
in this community. The granting of this variance will allow us to put
this vacant lot to a reasonable use that is consistent with the majority
of other nearby properties.
Thank your for your time and consideration of our request.
Sincerely,
Thomas, Erica and Joshua Koehnen
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
CARVER AND HENNEPIN COUNTIES, MINNESOTA
ORDINANCE NO. 317
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 7 OF THE
CHANHASSEN CITY CODE, THE BUILDINGS AND BUILDING REGULATIONS
The City Council of the City of Chanhassen ordains:
Section 1. Article II. Building Code. Section 7-16, Standards adopted by reference,
(c) (1), is hereby amended by deleting it in its entirety as follows:
Section 2. Article II. Building Code. Sec. 7-17. Organization and enforcement is
hereby amended by deleting (a) and (b) in their entirety and replacing as follows:
(a) The organization of the building department and enforcement of this article shall be
conducted within the guidelines established by the 11innesota State Building Code and the
administrative sections of the model building code adopted.
(b) The building inspections division shall be the building code department The
administrative authority shall be a Minnesota certified Building Official.
Section 3. Article II. Building Code, Sec. 7-19 Plans and specifications is hereby amended in
its entirety and replacing as follows:
The building official may require that plans and specifications, required by the Minnesota
State Building Code, include a survey of the lot upon which the proposed building or
construction is to be done, prepared and attested by a registered surveyor. An original signature
is required on the certificate of survey. The survey shall provide the following information
unless otherwise approved by the administrative authority:
(1) Scale of drawing and north arrow;
(2) Legal description of property;
(3) Dimensions and bearing of front, rear, and side property lines;
(4) Front, rear, and side yard setback dimensions of all proposed structures;
(5) Location of all existing structures on the property, boulevards, streets and right-of-
way, including but not limited to sanitary and storm manholes, hydrants, catch
basins, power poles, phone boxes, fences, and any encroachments;
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(6) Outside dimensions of proposed structure(s) including decks, porches, retaining
walls (include elevations at bottom of footing and top of wall), stoops, stairs,
cantilevers, fireplaces, bay and bow windows, egress window wells;
(7) Location of a benchmark stake established by the surveyor at the front setback line
within twenty (20) feet of the proposed structure. Maintenance of the benchmark
stake once established by the surveyor shall be the responsibility of the permit
applicant;
(8) Location of stakes established by the surveyor on side property lines at:
a. Front setback line.
b. Front building line.
C. Rear building line.
The maintenance of these stakes once established by the surveyor shall be the
responsibility of the permit applicant;
(9) Location of first floor elevation of buildings on adjacent lots. Vacant adjacent lots
shall be labeled as such;
(10) Location of all easements of record including but not limited to tree preservation,
wetland conservation, cross -access, etc.:
(11) Existing and proposed elevations at the following locations:
a. Each lot comer.
b. Top of curb or centerline of street at each lot line extension.
C. Center of proposed driveway at curb.
d. Grade at comers of proposed structure.
e. Lowest floor level, top of foundation, garage slab.
f All elevations shall correspond to sea level datum of 1929.
(12) Indication of direction of surface water drainage by arrows;
(13) Tree removal, tree preservation and grading plan if required by the development
contract;
(14) Wetland boundaries with ordinary high water level and 100 -year flood elevation if
applicable;
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(15) Driveway grade (minimum -0.50%, maximum -10%);
(16) All trees in excess of six (6) inches in diameter (diameter measured at four (4) feet
above grade);
(17) All custom -graded lots and lots deviating from the approved grading plan shall
require an as -built survey submitted to the City prior to issuing a certificate of
occupancy;
(18) Wetland buffer areas and wetland or lake setback dimensions;
(19) Other information as required by the City.
Section 4. Article II. Building Code, Sec. 7-21. Certificate of Occupancy, is hereby
amended by deleting it in its entirety as follows:
Section 5. This ordinance shall be effective immediately upon its passage and publication.
PASSED AND ADOPTED by the Chanhassen City Council this 23rd day of April, 2001.
ATTEST:
Scott A. Botcher, City Manager
Linda C. Jansen, Mayor
(Published in the Chanhassen Villager on May 3, 2001 )
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CHMASSEN MEMORANDUM
690Ci1YGnrerDriwe•P0Bor147 TO:
Inspections, Planning &Engineering staff
Cbanhaarn, Minnaora 55317`
Phone 611.937. 1900 FROM:
Steve A. Kirchman, BuildingI<
Official
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Below are explanations and diagrams of standard dwelling types. Development plans
submitted to the city for review should use these
standard designations.
SLO, FLO,
RLO
Designates Side Look Out. Front Look Out or Rear Look Out. This includes dwellings
with the basement floor level approximately 8'
v e at its deepest with the
surroundine grade sloping down to approximately l4'above the basement floor level.
R
Designates Rambler. This includes dwellings with the basement floor level approximatelv
8' below grade with
the surrounding grade approximately level. This would include two
story's and many 4 level dwellings.
SE
Designates Split Entrv. This includes dwellings with the basement floor level
appro4imately 4' below grade wit the surrounding grade approximately
level.
SEWO
Designates Split Entry Walk Out. This includes dwellings with
the basement floor level
approximately 4' below grade at its deepest with the surrounding grade sloping down to
the lowest floor level.
TU
Designates Tuck Under. This includes dwellings with the basement floor level
approximately 8' below
grade at its deepest with the surrounding grade sloping down to
the lowest floor level in the front of the dwelling.
SWO, RWO
Designates Side Walk Out or Rear Walk Out. This includes dwellings with the
basement floor level approximateiv
8' below grade at its deepest with the surrounding
grade sloping down to the lowest floor level in the rear of the dwelling.
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Inspections Division staff reviews these designations when reviewing building permit application
submittals, which are then passed to the engineering department staff for further review. Approved
grading plans are compared to proposed building plans and surveys to insure compliance to
approved conditions. The same designation must be used on all documents in order to avoid
confusion and incorrect plan reviews.
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KOEHNEN PROJECT
Case #04-11
Location: 770 Ponderosa Drive
March 8, 2004
Commission members:
The reason for my correspondence today is to voice my concerns in regard to a proposal to build a
RSF dwelling on the corner of Yuma and Ponderosa Drive in Chanhassen, Carver County. The proposed
building lot is small and currently is heavily wooded. (please note all photos)
My husband and I own the .75 acres lot directly to the south of the site, and with the lay of the land as
it is, we do have several concerns to bring to your attention.
Point I- Destruction of Natural Habitat
Our neighborhood is known for its many trees and cabin -like feel. The natural habit is what drew us to
this area, and the destruction of so many trees would truly alter the feel of our neighborhood.
Point 2 - Drainage Issues
The lay of the land is such that there are already concerns with drainage and erosion. To add another
dwelling so close, and uphill from our property line, may cause water issues and problems that we do
not currently have. (please note photo 3) The lower portion of our driveway (close to the street)
already gets washed out in the spring time with all of the melting snow that drains down the street.
The city does not currently have a sewer or drainage system in place to handle all the moisture, and
adding another dwelling, and removing some of the natural drainage filters in this area will impact our
lot and create additional erosion.
Point 3 - Congestion
Ponderosa is a busy street, and that corner is already somewhat of a problem area with vehicles that
speed down that hill. To add another dwelling to the space, and extra vehicles will add to the conges-
tion of the corner. Currently the lot houses a fire hydrant and our mailboxes. (see photo 2) 1 am con-
cerned as to whether or not these items will remain in their current location.
Point 4 - Resale
The thought of new construction in the area is great, however, with it being such a small dwelling (only
around 1000 sq. ft) I feel that this will hurt our resale value, not help it. What now is a spacious, heavily
wooded area, would become a congested, overcrowded, and non -private space.
Point 5 - Date of Construction - Noise issues
I have a 3 month old child and we are looking forward to the summer months to be outside. Inevitably
construction will take place during those months, and construction noise will detract from our ability to
be outside and enjoy the natural elements.
I truly appreciate your time and attention to this matter, and look forward to your review of the plan.
If you have additional questions, please let me know. Thanks.
Ally Vogel, 6890 Yuma Drive, Chanhassen
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING
PLANNING CASE NO. 04-11
CITY OF CHANHASSEN
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NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the Chanhassen Planning Commission will hold a
public hearing on Tuesday, March 16, 2004, at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers in Chanhassen
City Hall, 7700 Market Boulevard. The purpose of this hearing is to consider the request for a
7,068 square foot lot area variance to Section 20-615(1) and a 3.6 percent maximum lot coverage
variance to Section 20-615(4) of the Chanhassen City Code for the purpose of constructing a home
at 770 Ponderosa Drive, zoned RSF, Thomas Koehnen — Planning Case No. 04-11.
A plan showing the location of the proposal is available for public review at City Hall
during regular business hours.
All interested persons are invited to attend this public hearing and express their opinions
with respect to this proposal.
Nathan Bouvet, Planning Intern
Phone: 952-227-1132
Email: nbouvet@ci.chanhassen.mn.us
(Publish in the Chanhassen Villager on March 4, 2004)
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
AFFIDAVIT OF MAILING NOTICE
STATE OF MINNESOTA)
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COUNTY OF CARVER )
I, Karen J. Engelhardt, being first duly sworn, on oath deposes that she is and was on
March 4, 2004, the duly qualified and acting Deputy Clerk of the City of Chanhassen,
Minnesota; that on said date she caused to be mailed a copy of the attached notice of Public
Hearing for Variance to Lot Size & Coverage, 795 Ponderosa Drive, Thomas Koehnen -
Planning Case No. 04-11 to the persons named on attached Exhibit "A", by enclosing a copy of
said notice in an envelope addressed to such owner, and depositing the envelopes addressed to all
such owners in the United States mail with postage fully prepaid thereon; that the names and
addresses of such owners were those appearing as such by the records of the County Treasurer,
Carver County, Minnesota, and by other appropriate records.
Subscribed and sworn to before me
this -q-41\ day of "rch 2004.
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Karen J. ItSeAardt, D4uty Clerk
KIM T. MEUWISSEN
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*NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING •
CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, MARCH 16, 2004 AT 7:00 P.M.
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7700 MARKET BLVD.
PROPOSAL: Variance to Lot Size & Coverage APPLICANT: Thomas Koehnen
PLANNING CASE #04-11
LOCATION: 770 Ponderosa Drive
Lots 2322-2326, Carver Beach
NOTICE: You are invited to attend a public hearing about a proposal in your area. The applicant, Thomas
Koehnen, is requesting a 7,068 square foot lot area variance to Section 20-615(1) and a 3.6 percent maximum lot
coverage variance to Section 20-615(4) of the Chanhassen City Code for the purpose of constructing a home at
770 Ponderosa Drive, zoned RSF.
What Happens at the Meeting: The purpose of this public hearing is to inform you about the applicant's
request and to obtain input from the neighborhood about this project. During the meeting, the Chair will lead
the public hearing through the following steps:
1. Staff will give an overview of the proposed project.
2. The applicant will present plans on the project.
3. Comments are received from the public.
4. Public hearing is closed and the Commission discusses the project.
Questions and Comments: If you want to see the plans before the meeting, please stop by City Hall during
office hours, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., Monday through Friday. If you wish to talk to someone about this project,
please contact Nathan Bouvet at 952-227-1132 or e-mail nbouvet@ci.chanhassen.mn.us. If you choose to
submit written comments, it is helpful to have one copy to the department in advance of the meeting. Staff will
provide copies to the Commission.
Notice of this public hearing has been published in the Chanhassen Villager on March 4, 2004.
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City Review Procedure
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Subdivisions, Planned Unit Developments, Site Plan Reviews, Conditional and Interim Uses, Wetland
Alterations, Rezonings, Comprehensive Plan Amendments, Code Amendments require a public
hearing before the Planning Commission. City ordinances require all property within 500 feet of the
subject site to be notified of the application in writing. Any interested party is invited to attend the
meeting.
Staff prepares a report on the subject application. This report includes all pertinent information and a
recommendation. These reports are available by request. At the Planning Commission meeting,
staff will give a verbal overview of the report and a recommendation. The item will be opened for the
public to speak about the proposal as a part of the hearing process. The Commission will close the
public hearing and discuss the item and make a recommendation to the City Council. The City
Council may reverse, affirm or modify wholly or partly the Planning Commission's recommendation.
Rezonings, land use and code amendments take a simple majority vote of the City Council except
rezonings and land use amendments from residential to commercial/industrial.
Minnesota State Statute 519.99 requires all applications to be processed within 60 days unless the
applicant waives this standard. Some applications due to their complexity may take several months
to complete. Any person wishing to follow an item through the process should check with the
Planning Department regarding its status and scheduling for the City Council meeting.
A neighborhood spokesperson/representative is encouraged to provide a contact for the city. Often
developers are encouraged to meet with the neighborhood regarding their proposal. Staff is also
available to review the project with any interested person(s).
Because the Planning Commission holds the public hearing, the City Council does not. Minutes are
taken and any correspondence regarding the application will be included in the report to the City
Council. If you wish to have something to be included in the report, please contact the Planning Staff
person named on the notification.
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749 Carver Beach Road
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9599
STEVEN J & JOAN M CRONSON
801 CREE DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
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9599
HARLAN KOEHNEN
7263 PONTIAC CIR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9454
TROY D STOTTLER &
JESSICA R TSCHIDA
6800 RINGO DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
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751 CARVER BEACH RD
CHANHASSEN
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55317
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GERALYN J HAYDEN
749 CARVER BEACH RD
CHANHASSEN
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55317
9422
HAZEL P ANDERSON
2851 WASHTA BAY RD
EXCELSIOR
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JONATHON P RADEMACHER
820 IMPERIAL DR
CHANHASSEN
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55317
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6830 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
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ROBERT JOHN MOORE
6839 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
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745 CARVER BEACH RD
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9422
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6859 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
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55317
9554
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6865 NEZ PIERCE DR
CHANHASSEN
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55317
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830 PONDEROSA DR
CHANHASSEN
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55317
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810 PONDEROSA DR
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55317
9562
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6869 YUMA OR
CHANHASSEN
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55317
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760 PONDEROSA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9419
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CHANHASSEN
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55317
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6871 NEZ PIERCE DR
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55317
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6870 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
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130 CYGNET PL
LONG LAKE
MN
55356
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710 PONDEROSA DR
CHANHASSEN
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55317
9419
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6880 NEZ PIERCE DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
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845 PONDEROSA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9562
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KERRY A ABBOTT-GOEMER
625 PONDEROSA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
65317
9562
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SHELLY T MACGILLIVRAY
805 PONDEROSA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
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6889 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
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761 PONDEROSA DR
CHANHASSEN
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55317
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725 PONDEROSA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9419
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705 CARVER BEACH RD
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9422
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834 LONE EAGLE RD
CHANHASSEN
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834 LONE EAGLE OR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9417
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824 LONE EAGLE DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9417
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6890 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9205
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6899 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
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699 CARVER BEACH RD
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780 WOODHILL DR
CHANHASSEN
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55317
9561
CHARLES R L WORSFOLD
6900 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
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JAMES R JR & ELLEN J CRANSTON
695 CARVER BEACH RD
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
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JEFFREY T STERN
6901 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
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6911 YUMA DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
9560
MICHAEL L HOFT &
NOREEN C RACHOR
832 WOODHILL DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
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CITY OF CHANHASSEN
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825 WOODHILL DR
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MN
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767 WOODHILL DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
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753 WOODHILL DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
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739 WOODHILL DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
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751 CENTURY AVE S
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MN
55119
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800 WOODHILL DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
55317
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833 WOODHILL DR
CHANHASSEN
MN
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TO: Nathan Bouvet, Planning Intern
FROM: Jill Sinclair, Environmental Resources Specialist
DATE: March 9, 2004
SUBJ: Variance request for 7700 Ponderosa Drive
Since this property is a lot of record, tree preservation requirements as specified in
the subdivision ordinance do not apply to the lot. The property is heavily wooded
with a variety of sizes and species of trees. Due to the size of the lot, tree removal
for the construction of a home will be significant. The applicant has not included
information pertaining to the removal or preservation of trees. If the variance is
approved, a tree removal plan must be submitted with the building permit survey.
The applicant will not be allowed to clearcut the property. The applicant will
also be required to plant two overstory, deciduous, 21/z" diameter trees as part of
the landscaping requirements for the lot.
Staff recommendations for the variance requests at 7700 Ponderosa Drive:
1. A tree removal plan that clearly shows all trees, 6" and larger, and their
designation as removed or saved. The lot may not be clearcut.
2. Tree protection fencing must be installing prior to any work commencing
around all saved trees. Fencing shall remain in place until all construction
is completed.
3. The applicant shall plant two overstory, deciduous, 2'h" diameter trees.
The City of Chanhassen • A growing community with clean lakes, quality schools, a chanting downtown, thriving businesses, winding trails, and beautiful parks. A gnat place to live, work, and play.
Date: February 20, 2004
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard
Chanhassen, MN 55317
(952)227-1100
To: Development Plan Referral Agencies
From: Planning Department By: Nathan Bouvet
ORO' "'� s
Subject: Request for a 7,068 square foot lot area variance to Section 20-615(1) and a 3.6 percent maximum lot
coverage variance to Section 20-615(4) of the Chanhassen City Code for the purpose of constructing a
home at 7700 Ponderosa Drive, zoned RSF, Thomas Koehnen.
Planning Case: 04-11
The above-described application for approval of a land development proposal was filed with the Chanhassen Planning
Department on February 12, 2004. The 60 -day review period ends April 12, 2004.
In order for us to provide a complete analysis of issues for Planning Commission and City Council review, we would
appreciate your comments and recommendations conceming the impact of this proposal on traffic circulation, existing and
proposed future utility services, storm water drainage, and the need for acquiring public lands or easements for park sites,
street extensions or improvements, and utilities. Where specific needs or problems exist, we would like to have a written
report to this effect from the agency concerned so that we can make a recommendation to the Planning Commission and City
Council.
This application is scheduled for consideration by the Chanhassen Planning Commission on March 16, 2004 at 7:00 p.m. in
the Council Chambers at Chanhassen City Hall. We would appreciate receiving your comments by no later than
March 5. 2004. You may also appear at the Planning Commission meeting if you so desire. Your cooperation and
assistance is greatly appreciated.
City Departments
a. City Engineer
b. City Attomey
c. City Park Director
d. Fire Marshal
e. Building Official
f. Water Resources Coordinator
g. Forester
2. Watershed District Engineer
3. Soil Conservation Service
4. MN Dept of Transportation
5. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
6. CenterPoint Energy Minnegasco
7. MN Dept. of Natural Resources
8. Telephone Company
(Qwest or United)
9. Electric Company
(Xcel Energy or MN Valley)
10. Medicom
11. U. S. Fish and Wildlife
12. Carver County
a. Engineer
b. Environmental Services
13. Other -
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City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard
Chanhassen, MN 55317
OF (952)227-1100
Date: February 20, 2004
To: Development Plan Referral Agencies
From: Planning Department
By: Nathan Bouvet
CeMnrrw�
Subject: Request for a 7,068 square foot lot area variance to Section 20-615(1) and a 3.6 percent maximum lot
coverage variance to Section 20-615(4) of the Chanhassen City Code for the purpose of constructing a
home at 7700 Ponderosa Drive, zoned RSF, Thomas Koehnen.
Planning Case: 04-11
The above-described application for approval of a land development proposal was filed with the Chanhassen Planning
Department on February 12, 2004. The 60day review period ends April 12, 2004.
In order for us to provide a complete analysis of issues for Planning Commission and City Council review, we would
appreciate your comments and recommendations concerning the impact of this proposal on traffic circulation, existing and
proposed future utility services, storm water drainage, and the need for acquiring public lands or easements for park sites,
street extensions or improvements, and utilities. Where specific needs or problems exist, we would like to have a written
report to this effect from the agency concerned so that we can make a recommendation to the Planning Commission and City
Council.
This application is scheduled for consideration by the Chanhassen Planning Commission on March 16, 2004 at 7:00 p.m. in
the Council Chambers at Chanhassen City Hall. We would appreciate receiving your comments by no later than
March 5, 2004. You may also appear at the Planning Commission meeting if you so desire. Your cooperation and
assistance is greatly appreciated.
1. City Departments
a. City Engineer
b. City Attorney
c. City Park Director
d. Fire Marshal
e. Building Official
f. Water Resources Coordinator
g. Forester
2. Watershed District Engineer
3. Soil Conservation Service
4. MN Dept. of Transportation
5. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
6. CenterPoint Energy Minnegasco
7. MN Dept. of Natural Resources
8. Telephone Company
(Qwest or United)
9. Electric Company
(Xcel Energy or MN Valley)
10. Medicom
11. U. S. Fish and Wildlife
12. Carver County
a. Engineer
b. Environmental Services
13. Other -
14.
City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard
Chanhassen, MN 55317
�F (952)227-1100
Date: February 20, 2004
To: Development Plan Referral Agencies C
From: Planning Department By: Nathan Bouvet
Subject: Request for a 7,068 square foot lot area variance to Section 20-615(1) and a 3.6 percent maximum lot
coverage variance to Section 20-615(4) of the Chanhassen City Code for the purpose of constructing a
home at;-?@TPonderosa Drive, zoned RSF, Thomas Koehnen.
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Planning Case: 04-11
The above-described application for approval of a land development proposal was filed with the Chanhassen Planning
Department on February 12, 2004. The 60 -day review period ends April 12, 2004.
In order for us to provide a complete analysis of issues for Planning Commission and City Council review, we would
appreciate your comments and recommendations concerning the impact of this proposal on traffic circulation, existing and
proposed future utility services, storm water drainage, and the need for acquiring public lands or easements for park sites,
street extensions or improvements, and utilities. Where specific needs or problems exist, we would like to have a written
report to this effect from the agency concerned so that we can make a recommendation to the Planning Commission and City
Council.
This application is scheduled for consideration by
the Council Chambers at Chanhassen City Hall. N
on may also appear at the Plam
assts ce is grea y appreciated.
City Departments
a. City Engineer
b. City Attorney
c. City Park Director
d. Fire Marshal
e. Building Official
f. Water Resources Coordinator
g. Forester
2. Watershed District Engineer
3. Soil Conservation Service
4. MN Dept. of Transportation
5. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
6. CenterPoint Energy Minnegasco
7. MN Dept. of Natural Resources
meeting if you so desire. Your cooperation and
8. Telephone Company
(Qwest or United)
9. Electric Company
(Xcel Energy or MN Valley)
10. Medicom
11. U. S. Fish and Wildlife
12. Carver County
a. Engineer
b. Environmental Services
13. Other -
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City of Chanhassen
7700 Market Boulevard
Chanhassen, MN 55317
CITY OF (952)227-1100
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Date: February 20, 2004
To: Development Plan Referral Agencies
From: Planning Department By: Nathan Bouvet
Subject: Request for a 7,068 square foot lot area variance to Section 20-615(1) and a 3.6 percent maximum lot
coverage variance to Section 20-615(4) of the Chanhassen City Code for the purpose of constructing a
home at 7700 Ponderosa Drive, zoned RSF, Thomas Koehnen.
Planning Case: 04-11
The above-described application for approval of a land development proposal was fled with the Chanhassen Planning
Department on February 12, 2004. The 60 -day review period ends April 12, 2004.
In order for us to provide a complete analysis of issues for Planning Commission and City Council review, we would
appreciate your comments and recommendations concerning the impact of this proposal on traffic circulation, existing and
proposed future utility services, storm water drainage, and the need for acquiring public lands or easements for park sites,
street extensions or improvements, and utilities. Where specific needs or problems exist, we would like to have a written
report to this effect from the agency concerned so that we can make a recommendation to the Planning Commission and City
Council.
This application is scheduled for consideration by the Chanhassen Planning Commission on March 16, 2004 at 7:00 p.m in
the Council Chambers at Chanhassen City Hall. We would appreciate receiving your comments by no later than
March 5. 2004. You may also appear at the Planning Commission meeting if you so desire. Your cooperation and
assistance is greatly appreciated.
City Departments
a. City Engineer
b. City Attorney
c. City Park Director
d. Fire Marshal
e. Building Official
f. Water Resources Coordinator
g. Forester
2. Watershed District Engineer
3. Soil Conservation Service
4. MN Dept. of Transportation
5. U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
6. CenterPoint Energy Minnegasco
7. MN Dept. of Natural Resources
8. Telephone Company
(Qwest or United)
9. Electric Company
(Xcel Energy or MN Valley)
10. Medicom
11. U. S. Fish and Wildlife
12. Carver County
a. Engineer
b. Environmental Services
13. Other -
14.
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To The Planning Committee
Variance Request Justification
For Thomas & Erica Koehnen
We are asking for a variance to the minimum buildable lot size and
the twenty-five percent hard cover requirement. We are asking for
this variance because we would like to build a house on lots 2322-
2326 in Carver Beach - the southwest corner of Ponderosa drive and
Yuma drive. These lots do not meet the minimum buildable lots size.
The lot size is 7,932 square feet. The house we would like to build on
these lots including the driveway and sidewalks is 2,267 square feet.
This would be 28.6 percent. This is greater than the maximum
twenty-five percent hard cover requirement. We need to exceed the
maximum hard cover requirement in this case to meet the various
minimum requirements that are mandated by the building code in the
city. Some of theses requirements are that we need to include a two -
car garage and meet a requirement of a minimum house size for a
given layout. The property is located in the Carver Beach
neighborhood, which as a whole is composed of non -conforming lots
with houses built on them. Building a house here is a reasonable use
of this property. A smaller modest house on this property is wholly in
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keeping with the existing standards of the neighborhood.
My grandfather Harlan Koehnen bought this property in 1967 as one
parcel and it has sat in the same state ever since. The purpose of
this variance is for us to build our first house for our new son and us
to live in.
The granting of this variance will not cause harm to any land or
homes in the neighborhood. The house we would build if this
variance were granted would not impair the adequate light or air
supply to the adjacent dwellings since the two adjacent dwellings are
oriented such that their garages and not the homes face the property.
Adding one family to the neighborhood will not substantially add traffic
and developing this vacant lot will not significantly lower any property
values or detract from the public welfare.
The Koehnen family has deep roots in the City of Chanhassen.
Thomas' great grandparents settled in the southern part of
Chanhassen near the turn of the last century. Since then his
grandparents, parents, and he have all lived in the city their entire
lives. We would very much like to continue to live and raise a family
in this community. The granting of this variance will allow us to put
this vacant lot to a reasonable use that is consistent with the majority
of other nearby properties.
Thank your for your time and consideration of our request.
Sincerely,
Thomas, Erica and Joshua Koehnen
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March 22, 2004
Maurice and Vicki Hevey
780 Wood Hill Dr.
Chanhassen, MN 55317
952-474-2317
Dear Chanhassen City Council,
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We are writing in regard to the approval by the Planning Commission of the
application for a lot variance at 795 Ponderosa Drive, Case #: Variance 04-11.
We wish to appeal this decision and request that the City Council deny the Lot
Area Variance.
After carefully reading the Staff Report from the Planning Commission, we
disagree with these 3 sections in their "Findings."
a) Undue hardship: "The intent of this provision is not to allow a proliferation
of variances, but to recognize that there are pre-existing standards in this
neighborhood. Variances that blend with these pre-existing standards without
departing downward from them meet this criterion.
We argue that this variance does "depart downward." While the finding
compares lot sizes, it does not state or compare the sizes of the houses placed
on these lots. The fact remains that this lot is at least 10% smaller than the
average of other lots that have been granted variances, thus departing downward
from the pre-existing standards.
c) "The purpose of the variation is not based upon a desire to increase the
value or income potential of the parcel of land."
At present, without this variance, this lot is not buildable and has limited value to
its owner. With most new single-family residences being built in Chanhassen in
the $300,000+ range, a home priced below this market will sell quickly. Two
homes within 500' of this lot were sold in 2001 less than 1 week after they were
listed. This lot is worth at least 40 times its current value with a home on it.
e) "The granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public welfare
or injurious to other land or improvements in the neighborhood in which
the parcel is located."
Currently, during heavy rains, storm waters run down Ponderosa Drive in both
directions from Yuma Drive. These waters converge with water running down
from Yuma in the direction of our home. The water jumps the curb at Lone Eagle
Dr. and exits in a stream on the east side of our house as it runs into the wetland
in front of our property.
We fear this run-off situation will worsen with the additional lot coverage and the
necessary removal of many trees on the property, possibly flooding our
basement window wells located on the east side of our home. If this happens, it
will seriously decrease the value of our property.
In addition, since Wood Hill Dr. is a one-way street, as is the section Yuma Dr.
that connects to Wood Hill Dr., the only way we can exit is through the inter-
section of Yuma Dr. and Ponderosa Dr. Currently, visibility at this corner is
extremely poor. Many times I have started to enter the intersection when a car
has suddenly become visible after cresting the hill to begin its descent to this
intersection. We are concerned that a home placed on this lot will further impair
the visibility of traffic coming down from Nez Perce Dr. Many drivers using
Ponderosa do not live in the area and are not concerned with their speed. The
impaired visibility combined with the excessive speeds driven on Ponderosa Dr.
make this corner a potentially hazardous section of this neighborhood.
We hope you will consider these points when making your decision on this
variance request.
Sincerely,
Maurice O. Hevey
Vicki L. Hevey
3/21/04
Dear Chanhassen City Council,
We are writing regarding the approval of the proposal to build a home at 795
Ponderosa Drive, Case # Variance 04-11. We provide our names, addresses and
signatures on accompanying pages.
We wish to appeal this decision and request that the City Council deny the Lot Area
Variance.
We offer the following in support of our position.
We refer to the City of Chanhassen Staff Report.
1. Page 6. Findings (a) and (b):
City staff provided a table of the neighboring properties with nonconforming lot
sizes. We note that of the 5 file numbers presented, one was denied, one was
withdrawn and 3 were approved giving a 60% approval rating. We examined file
number 89-8, 825 Ponderosa Dr. which was withdrawn. We note that no square
footage was given for this case. We also attempted to examine file number 91-20,
750 Cree Dr. However, we could not find this address. We note that the average
square footage of these lots was 8,848 square feet. The applicant has asked for 7,932
square feet. This represents a reduction of 916 square feet from the properties given
in the table and is about 10%. Finally, we would be grateful if the City staff could
indicate how many cases were researched
We note that both one Planning Commission (PC) member and the public were
very confused about the building ordinances in this area of the City of Chanhassen.
We consider that the City staff did not clearly explain this to the PC member and
that he and the PC made their decision based on this confusion. We request that this
issue is clearly explained and the information made available to the City Council
and public. Furthermore, as a consequence of the above, the applicant's title may be
confused because of the parcels of land put together. Hence we would like the city
to verify their title and include this information in its deliberations.
We have interpreted the situation as follows: Reasonable use includes a use
made by a majority of comparable property within 500 feet of the lot. Within the
500 feet circle, the average sized lot is 13,586 square feet. The applicants property
is 7,932 square feet. This is approximately half of the size of the average lot within
the required 500 feet. Thus, this lot is clearly not comparable to the majority. Since
the hard cover variance was denied and the applicant has to remain within the 25%,
the house size would not be similar to existing residences. Thus, the lot size (and
hence, house size) does not blend with and is inconsistent with pre-existing
standards. This is because it departs downwards from these standards. Thus, we
conclude that the applicant should be denied the reasonable use of the property.
Furthermore, just because an applicant can meet the required setbacks does not
mean that the lot size and house size are comparable to pre-existing standards in the
neighborhood Importantly, we note that the City staff listed variance requests that
may have been comparable to the majority of pre-existing standards of the
neighborhood in the mid and late 1980's, but are clearly not comparable in 2004.
Finally, we note that the lot size variance was argued by the applicant to be
"pretty close" to the minimum lot size previously approved. As noted above, the lot
size was not similar to the majority of properties previously approved. Whilst noting
that both one member of the PC and the public were confused as to the
determination of lot size in the area, we raise the idea of "pretty close" as an
important issue. Where does one draw the line? We argue that small differences are
important and that a precedent should not be set by allowing deviations.
2. Page 6 Findings (c):
We note that until now, the applicant has paid taxes for 795 Ponderosa Dr. based
on the fact that the site is a non -homestead lot. We estimate this amount to be about
$100 per year. Now the lot becomes buildable. Hence, we are concerned that the
building of the house on the lot is in fact an attempt to derive profit from the site.
We note that the site is not worth very much money without a house. With a house
on the lot, we estimate that if sold in a year or two, the applicant will profit by about
$100,000. We determined the market value of the lot to be about $5,500. We also
note that if the applicant requires a larger yard, he may decide to leave in a year or
two and place the home on the rental -market. We wish to make the City Council
aware of these possibilities.
3. Page 6 Findings (e) and (f):
(i) We were concerned that the applicant did not provide the PC and the public with
professional engineering and architectural plans. We also note that a Survey of the
site was not presented. The PC and public were given no specific information
regarding the following: tree layout, tree removal, fire hydrant and mail box status
and location, construction of retaining walls because of steep grade; construction for
drainage and the physical alteration of the site occurring as a consequence of home
construction. We note that a fire hydrant and mailboxes are located at the
intersection of Ponderosa Dr. and Yuma Dr. We would be grateful if all of this
information be made available to the City Council and the public.
(ii) At the PC meeting, we were upset at the lack of discussion about the potential
environmental hazards, dramage/runoff and safety hazards (see accompanying
letters that were sent to the PC). For example, the residents of 805 Ponderosa Dr.
have great difficulty in safely backing out of their driveway and onto Ponderosa Dr.
The residents have described many "close calls". Further, the home will occupy
most of the site, with little or no yard for children's play. As noted in the letter,
Ponderosa Dr. is a major thoroughfare for residents of lower Carver Beach, traffic
speeds in the area vary from 15-50 mph. and the Yuma Dr./Ponderosa Dr.
intersection is not at right angles. The Yuma Dr./Ponderosa Dr. intersection is in a
dip, at the bottom of two hills. Our experience indicates that, for both directions,
cars accelerate down one hill to the intersection and then further speed up the next
hill. We also note that there is no stop sign on Ponderosa Dr. at the intersection.
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Considering adjacent streets, we note that lower Yuma Dr., Wood Hill Dr. and Cree
Dr. are all one-way streets and that Lone Eagle Dr. and Imperial Dr. are dead end
streets. This arrangement means that all local traffic also ends up on Ponderosa Dr.
This fact coupled with the fact that Ponderosa Dr. is the thoroughfare for lower
Carver Beach and that increased traffic will arise as a consequence of the new
homes along Big Woods Blvd. and the lower Carver Beach area indicates that
Ponderosa Dr. is already too busy. We therefore question the City staffs statement
that an additional 10 more car trips per day, (as usually generated by a single family
home) will not add to the significant traffic problem.
We ask the City staff if they could do a traffic count at the intersection in order
to professionally evaluate the situation. In conclusion, we urge the City Council and
the applicant to consider the above carefully as local residents do not wish to see
any children endangered as a consequence of wandering onto or playing on
Ponderosa Dr. Thus, we would be grateful if the City could evaluate these issues in
a thorough and professional way and provide the information to the City Council
and us. Finally, we urge members of the City Council to come and look at the site
during the day and at night, without snow cover, in order to get a good and clear
idea of these issues. We would like to meet with City Council members at the
location to both discuss and show members the issues and our concerns. We note
that only one of the PC members viewed the site and this visit occurred at night, just
before the PC meeting.
(iii) One of our local residents has discussed the importance to the City of the 2020
Land Use Plan. In this context, we ask the City Council to address the meaning of
low and high density. We ask, how many houses in an area can be squeezed in? We
note the major development occurring in the lower Carver Beach area, including
Lotus Trail and Big Woods Boulevard. These developments will directly impact the
Yuma Dr./ Ponderosa Dr. intersection. Hence, we urge the City Council to address
our appeal in the context of this development, new small homes on small lots, as in
the case of the applicant and the 2020 Land Use Plan as low density.
(iv) We are also very concerned at the likelihood of significant tree removal from
the site if building goes ahead. We note that the Yuma DO Ponderosa Dr.
intersection drains 38 acres into a filtration pond at the bottom of Yuma Dr. This
water then flows into Lotus Lake We also note that the City provides for tree
removal fines for damaged trees in construction. As an example of significant tree
removal, we draw your attention to recent home development along Galpin Blvd.
and Lake Lucy Rd. where significant numbers of trees were removed. In our
opinion, this action creates significant problems — increased drainage and run-off,
decreased shelter from significant winter wind-chill effects and hence, increased
heating/energy demand; decimation of wild -life habitat and aesthetic issues in that
the houses stand starkly on bare hillsides. We note that the Carver Beach area
presently has a large population of a variety of tree types and has a significant
canopy, providing good shelter and habitat. We do not wish to see this desirable
natural asset destroyed. In this regard, we also note an older home development in
the Kerber Blvd. area where trees were removed. According to one of our group,
this action resulted in a large migration of many surviving animals to the Carver
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Beach area.
(v) We note that the home at 780 Wood Hill Dr. was built on a wetlands site. This
site is adjacent to and below the proposed house at 795 Ponderosa Dr. We would
like the City to evaluate the specific impact of the new house on this area and
provide this information to the City Council and the public.
3. Denial of the lot coverage variance:
As far as we understand, the PC set the following conditions for this variance
denial: The applicant is to work with the City in regard to the trees, driveway and
safety. Additionally, the PC set an amendment regarding the engineering and
drainage issues. We argue that these requirements are too vague. Hence, we would
be grateful if the City staff and PC could provide the City Council and public with
specific statements and requirements. We note that the requirements should include
the use of pavers and not concrete or asphalt for hard -cover, no out -buildings or
sheds, possible drive -way relocation to Yuma Dr. and most importantly, reduction
of hard cover by 258 square feet.
Finally, if the home is to be built, we are concerned that the City will not be able
to effectively police these requirements. We would like the City Council to provide
evidence that these requirements will be (i) met by the applicant and (ii) rigorously
monitored. We would like to participate in this process.
4. General Issues:
(i) We note that one of the adjoining properties would like to purchase the lot.
(ii) According to the notice received in the mail, we were informed
that the case would go to the City Council. At the end of the meeting, the PC
Chairman informed us that approval of the project was possible with a 5-0 vote, but
that we could appeal to the City Council within 4 business days. The PC then voted
5-0, even though there was clearly confusion as to specific details which apply to
this area of Chanhassen. The notice that we received in the mail did not accurately
explain this. We were very confused at to this sequence of events and draw your
attention to this.
(iii) We also note that one week's notice for the Planning Commission meeting was
too little time to prepare for the hearing. We urge the City Council to lengthen this
time period
We, the undersigned, hereby appeal Chanhassen Planning
Commission's decision to approve the lot size variance to
Case Variance No. 04-11 at its 3/16/04 meeting.
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Michael Kohane
6870 Yuma Dr.
Chanhassen, MN 55317
phone: 952401-0520.
3/15/04
Dear Members of the Planning Committee,
I am writing on behalf of concerned residents regarding the proposal to build a home
at 795 Ponderosa Drive, Case # Variance 04-11.
We object to this proposal and would like you to disallow the project.
We offer the following in support of our position.
I . Safety: We have examined the drawings and conclude that the distance from the
driveway of the new house to the Yuma/Ponderosa intersection is about 20 feet.
We ask if this is acceptable with the city code and if it is safe and reasonable given
the nature of traffic flow through this intersection. We note that Ponderosa Dr. is
currently a busy thoroughfare for people living in the Carver Beach area. Further,
the intersection is at the bottom of two hills and Ponderosa and Yuma do not meet
at Ab degrees, yielding speed and sight line issues. Further, there is considerabir.
new development in the Carver Beach area and we anticipate significantly
increased traffic from the current levels when these new homes are finished. We
also note that the speed of cars traveling through the Yuma/Ponderosa intersection
can be from 15-50 mph., well above the speed limit, which we note is not directly
posted near the intersection. The families that live near the intersection have had
no success in limiting the speed of many of the regular cars. We also note that the
intersection is currently a school bus stop. If the city considers approval, we
suggest that the driveway be moved to Yuma Dr. In conclusion, we argue that the
building of the house at this location would significantly increase the risk to the
local families.
2. We ask whether the city should allow the home to extend all the way up to the
setback of 10 feet for this extremely small lot.
3. Environmental issues: Our neighborhood is concerned with the runoff and
drainage that will occur if the (rouse is built. We are very worried about
consequences for the drainage area of Yuma Drive and ultimately, Lotus lake. In
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order to control excess run off etc. we note that the code allows 25% hardcover
and that the variance asked for is 28.6%. In order to minimize the local negative
effects of run-off and drainage, we argue that 25% hardcover should be the
maximum adhered to, especially for new houses close to water bodies. We
suggest that if approval is considered, that the city reduce the footprint of the
house and note that the city does not have to grant this size footprint just because
it is what the applicants request to build. Further, we suggest that the city may
tequirc the use of pavers and not concrete in the construction of the hardcover.
4. We note that State law indicates that the land owner should not be denied
reasonable use of his/her property. If the city is considering approval of the
project, we point out that the city is giving a good, first variance to Mable the
house to be built (7,932 square feet rather than the 15,000 square feet required by
code). This is around 50% reduction in required lot size. Thus we focus on the
second variance, the hardcover issue. With the setback that the city allows, there
is a buildable envelope and therefore, disallowing the second variance would not
impact the owner's reasonable use of his property.
In summary, the local residents are significantly concerned that the construction of the
new house will exacerbate the currant traffic problems and put family members, in
particular, children at much greater risk. Additionally, it will negatively impact an
already fragile local environment, which has yet to deal with both the recent and future
home development in the lower Carver Beach area. This includes the new homes already
built along Big Woods Boulevard and presently being built opposite Carver Beach on
Lotus Trail. We also anticipate the attempt to build more homes in both these areas.
Hence, we urge that the city does not allow the construction of the house.
Yours sincerely,
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Michael Kohane.
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Mark A. VanGuilder
Shelly T. MacGillivray
805 Ponderosa Drive
Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317
Phone: 952-470-4953
March 15, 2004
Chanhassen Planning Commission
7700 Market Boulevard
Chanhassen, Minnesota 55317
RE: Planning Case No. 04-11
Dear Chanhassen Planning Commission Members,
We are writing to inform you that we are opposed to the
approval of the application for the variances of Planning
Case No. 04-11, which is an adjoining property to ours. The
following items are some of our thoughts and concerns:
We believe if a home is built on the subject property, it
will substantially diminish and impair our property value and
the Carver Beach subdivision's property value as a whole by
having houses so close together and by reducing the wooded
areas. The subject property was not buildable when we
purchased our home and property. If the variances are
approved and a home is built, it will greatly affect the
quiet and enjoyment of our property. We have attempted to
purchase the subject property.
There's a steep grade where the proposed house would be built
that could be injurious and detrimental to our property.
We're very concerned about runoff and drainage issues. We
question whether the home should be allowed to extend all the
way up to the setback of 10 feet.
The 2020 Land Use Plan describes the area as low density.
This would not be the case if variances continue to be
approved.
Smaller lots within 500 feet of the subject property are
undeveloped. We believe that the 25 percent maximum
hardcover requirement should be adhered to due to our concern
for future development of these undeveloped lots. The
subject property is approximately half the size of the
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required 15,000 square feet and approximately half the size
of the average -sized lots in the area and we feel a home
should not be built on it.
It will increase the congestion of the public streets and
increase the danger of fire. There is a fire hydrant on the
property at the corner of Yuma Drive and Ponderosa Drive.
There are many mature trees on the property and we have seen
a lot of wildlife on the property such as owls, hawks, deer
and wild turkey, to name a few. Building a home on the
property would have a negative impact on the habitat.
It is a self-created hardship because the property owner
chose not to take the opportunity to build on it when it was
within the requirements of the City Code. The applicant is
not the property owner. We're concerned that the Koehnens
are developers because there's a Koehnen Circle East and a
Koehnen Circle West in Chanhassen and a Koehnen Drive and a
Koehnen Circle in Chaska. obviously, the purpose of the
application for variations is based upon a desire to increase
the value or income potential of the parcel of land.
Therefore, we recommend that you deny the application for
Planning Case No. 04-11.
Thank you very much for taking our concerns into
consideration.
Sincerely,
Mark A. VanGuilder
Shelly T. MacGillivray
CC: Chanhassen City Council
Michael Kohane
6870 Yuma Dr.
Chanhassen, MN 55317
phone: 952-401-0520.
3/16/04
Dear Members of the City Council,
I am writing regarding the approval of the proposal to build a home at
795 Ponderosa Drive, Case # Variance 04-11.
I wish to appeal this approval.
My appeal would like to address the following:
1. One Planning Commission (PC) member was confused as to the
meaning of the parcels of land that are required to be combined to
make a buildable lot in Chanhassen. I was also confused. I consider
that the City did not clearly explain this to the particular PC member
and request that more detailed information be given to the City
Council and the PC.
2. 1 am concerned that the City and the owner did not show the PC
professional engineering and architectural drawings and a survey. In
particular, there was nothing specific on tree removal, drainage, fire
hydrant and mail -box location and the physical alteration of the site
by the home. The owner, in his comments, did imply that the
residents had nothing to worry about. However, I would be grateful
that specific details be given to the City Council and PC.
3. 1 was very upset at the cursory treatment of the drainage,
environmental and safety issues by the City and PC at the meeting. I
would be grateful if the City could evaluate these issues in a more
professional way and send the report to the City Council and myself. I
intend to independently discuss these with issues with the City of
Chanhassen (police and parks department); Carver County (police,
planning and parks) and the governing watershed district.
4. If the home is to be built, I am concerned that the City will not
ensure that the vague requirements laid down by the PC in regard to
the rejection of the hardcover variance are met. I would like the City
to clarify these requirements and to effectively enforce them.
In conclusion I consider that there was insufficient hard data upon
which to base a decision. I would not like to see the City Council provide
a seal of approval in this situation.
Yours sincerely,
fJlw� LoLO-�
Michael Kohane.
Invoice Invo*No GISO339
DATE 01726704
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Parcel Number 25.1601840
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Primary Taxpayer/Owner
HARLAN KOEHNEN
7263 PONTIAC CIR
CHANHASSEN MN 55317-9454
Legal Description
LOTS 2322 - 2326
Payable Year: 2004
Section: 01 Township: 116 Range: 023
Plat Name: 25160 CARVER BEACH
Tax Roll Type: REAL ESTATE
Jurisdiction: CHANHASSEN CITN
School District: SCHOOL DISTRICT
Real Estate and Personal Property Taxes are determined using the previous year ass(
Mobile Home Taxes are determined using the current year assessment value.
Property Classification: NON -HOMESTEAD RES 1-3 UNITS
Assessment Year 2003 Payable Year 2004
Est. Market Value - Land $6,100.00 Total Tax
Est. Market Value - Total $6,100.00 Special Assessments:
Taxable Market Total $5,000.00 Total Tax/Asmts.
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Installments Due Date
Taxes/Assessments 1st Half 5/15/2004
Taxes/Assessments 2nd Half 10/15/2004
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