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Public Comment Recieved at 9.17 PC - Neighborhood Meeting TranscriptTRANSCRIPT from Westwood Community Meeting - September 10, 2024, 7:00 pm Rm. All Westwood Church Joel Johnson (BOD/Sr. Pastor): [00.00:00] ... into the classroom with these high level needs and it really captured the attention of everybody in the room. And a collaborative happened from people from all these different segments to say, let's work together. We're part of a community that really did seek to work together. It's a rare thing to see sometimes but it's a blessing to be part of a community that seeks to work together the way we do. We identified the boy, and he was, the biggest he was a surprise to us, at the time under the category of homelessness of kids, um, and suburban kids. And, we were shocked by that. It was anecdotal. We had the sheriff, uh, at one of our listening sessions, share the story, picking up a kid who was sleeping in the corner of the parking lot at the dinner theater. And he said, it was two in the morning, you can't be sleeping here. And, uh, he said, I can't go home. For various reasons, he was not allowed to go home. And the officer, he had one option, go into Hennepin County to bring the kid there for [00:01:00] shelter. Um, or put him in the back of the SWAT, go around with him until he got out of school the next morning. And we weren't sure, but we felt like there was an unmet need relating to kids in crisis. Could we meet that need? And so, an experiment. We had a home on our property. That is our, our home. We try to find a new community. Um, at the time we were using it for missionaries that were on furlough, and we said, well what would happen if we made that home available, let's give it a shot, and for a couple years, verify the need. Well, little did we know. Little did we know. I mean, last year we turned away how many kids? We could not accommodate a shelter with over 200 kids last year. So, it's, at the time that it was open, it was the only shelter in the southwest suburbs. Otherwise, you'd have to go in the hand of an accountant. So the need is greater than what anybody would say. And we have a perfect venue. Because you come into that room, and there's a fireplace. You come into a home, [00:02:00] and it really provides a safe haven for kids. And it's been beautiful to see how this has come together. And, uh, and so we've made an investment to say, let's be part of it. Not only has it brought a lot of encouragement to so many kids and help the kids, but reconciling them with their families, which this team does such an amazing work doing. We work together with a team that's extraordinary. We so appreciate 180, our partner, and we decided let's continue. We're tucked away in the beautiful green zone up there. It's safe, it's beautiful, and we welcome kids who are in a tough place, and every kid deserves shelter. dignity that you love, we're so grateful to be a part of it. And, um, we're invested in helping kids along that way. I've had a verse this summer that's been a theme verse for me. It's been heartbreaking. I've been sharing it in a couple of different places. But, I want to share it with you, and I'm going to pray. [00:03:00] Just to make voices a little weak, I've just come off of a flu. And so, I'm rebounding for you guys today. Seriously. My first public encounter since last Friday. Um, but in Zephaniah 3. 17, it's a very unique verse. It says, God is mighty to save. It says, um, Transcriptfrom meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion I of 28 He greatly delights in you. He quiets you with His love. He rejoices over you with sin. And I think all of us need that. But a kid who's in crisis, who comes to a home, and he can be quieted by the love of the people, the staff that are there, um, that I think represent God. It's a great God. It's a gift in front of people to say the least. So, we're privileged to have a home that found a new purpose. We didn't expect that would be the purpose. We have a phrase at Westwood that comes from the Abrahamic covenant where blessed will be a blessing. This one wouldn't seem to be a blessing to the community. At large, the kids are [00:04:00] coming to these homes and we're really delighted that you're here to hear about the expansion of what we think will bring more good to our community as well. So we'll pray and then we'll open up the rest of the evening. Father God, thank you for your goodness to us. And we receive it, we're glad for it, and we want to give it away because goodness is meant to be shared. Thank you for the community in which we live. The collaborative nature of leaders from every sector of our community makes this a wonderful place to choose to come into, to establish residency, to be together, um, for each other in a given place. And for kids, we're especially mindful. We're here tonight So just pray that you'd be honored in our conversation, that we would represent the submission well, and that questions would be answered and satisfied for those who are dealing with various views or understandings along the way. So we give this time to you for your honor and glory. Amen. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): Thank you so much, Pastor Joel. It's great to have you here. More importantly, it's great to have you here. This is a neighborhood meeting. You are the neighbors, so we're here to hear [00:05:00] from you. We thought we'd start with just a couple of slides I mean, you've heard the journey of Open Hands Foundation. I want to take just a few minutes, if you will, to tell you a little bit about the journey of Hope House. Um, and then we want to hear from you. So our mission, we offer love, dignity, and hope by meeting critical needs of people in our community. Our primary focus right now is Hope House. So if we just keep going, uh, the next slide, Diane. Here is Hope House. If you haven't actually driven up there, uh, if you haven't and you're interested, we'd love to offer a tour so that you can see what this facility_ is Pastor Joel h mentioned this., The doors of Hope House opened in 2015. When we opened our doors, we very quickly realized that, um, we weren't case managers. We, the church, Westwood Community Church and didn't have the breadth or the depth to offer teen shelter. So we, we learned [00:06:00] quickly we needed to partner with somebody. We're gonna talk a little bit more about that. Oh, sorry. Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hoye House Proposed Expansion 2 of28 Just real,)�c[wckl what wee have in there were six beds four um four bedrooms and we re � �, ,. r�&�i� � So if we go to the next slide, Diane, This is something that's really, really critical about Hope House. Um, it was inspired, uh, through Westwood Community Church, where they founded Open V Hands Foundation. The unmet needs, or under met needs in our community. And then we zJ� found, uh, an amazing, amazing partner, really, in 180 Degrees. Uh, we have been with them for about eight years, I think. Um, uh, and they They do all the heavy lifting, but it really does take all three organizations. sm"IMMMt `pp��4?4k!!#1gf'a�p$,,,--_[00:07 00] And ten, uh, �`��,i,�g1^�7p�'�Gyp�}pr�s;� some really quick stats, uh, kind of basic services. The primary reasons teams come to us and that evolves a little bit. there's a little bit of a season. but. . That's what brings them to us. And then at the bottom are just some stats that Pastor Joel talked about really quickly, high level. But we've served almost um _!}'�fCi c% Over 3, 000 through text or phone calls or, these aren't necessarily teens that come into the shelter, but they're seeking information or, or redirection. So CJ and his team offers that on the phone. And then you see this giant number, almost 1, 600 queries that have come to us that haven't been satisfied with an overnight stay. For a number of reasons The teen might not be the right [00:08:00] profile to come to Hope House. .g'��s1Si �;(�=�gt1. There are a number of reasons that Hope House is not the right fit. And other times, it's just, we didn't have capacity. They were the right profile, but our, we didn't have a bed available to them. But right now, because we have two beds, two bedrooms, we have two beds in them, the demographic didn't work. You know, the referral was a man, and the available bed was in a teen girl's room. Well, obviously, that's something that we would never do. So Diane, we'll, we'll just keep going here. So really, why are we considering expansion? You know, it wasn't designed intentionally to serve teens. And secondly, we just turned too many teens away. We believe we can, we can serve more teens. Uh, and Pastor Joel said this so well, you know, our number one priority, every [00:09:00] teen that comes to us, regardless of their journey, we meet them with love. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): We serve them with dignity. And we offer them hope, and I know Richard Coffey will tell a story, uh, I'm sure he'll tell us, offer us a story tonight. What we know is ho a saves lives and we are making9 lYit that kind of a difference in in the lives of the teens we serveesric%estati'fxxitt�et[btklfdteaiad:yfdixia Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 3 of 28 So Diane, we'll just keep going. Here's a quick snapshot of what were thinking If you stay over here on the upper side, our vision for Hope House 2 is g]df#tom=eftt6,�l�'iSY�, eight individual bedrooms on one floor. Something that we've never been able to offer is assistance for anybody with mobility issues. So we're going to have an ADA bedroom on the main level that can be used as flex space when we don't have a teen in there. [00:10:00] It's just . Over 5, 000 square feet, just under 5, 000 square feet of finished usable space, but you know, kind of a footprint if you will, over 5, 000 square feet. We'll have an appropriate office. Right now we're, we continue to o erate-on septic. So we'll convert to city sewer and water, um, which will also be' �f�€as well. 'Anv, anv future development for the campus. Um, what opportunities, what other needs can we meet in our community, uh, perhaps there. And several things are being discussed, but we haven't finalized that yet. So Diane will keep moving forward. High level, uh, We can have a closer look at this, but I just wanted you to see kind of this is the main entrance, and it offers opportunities that we just cannot provide today, where we [00:11:00) have a secure entrance and can go right into an intake and an intake consultation. U101MfloffiBoThen you can see, it's um, if you see in our space today, it's like this very, the common space is kind of wide open so the visuals are great. Kitchen on one end, dining, common area, ':��"'�StCszlhlics you know, this is just the common, and they'll go through whatever programming that 180 Degrees has. This is the ADA bedroom. There's an ADA bathroom in the bathroom. The, uh, any team that needs this will be able to have their own laundry facility in the bathroom. And then itit probably too small for you to see, but there are little things like, uh 4pf t j II 9[00:12:00] and, uh, distribution of whatever it is that a team might need, um, while the 're sta in at Ho_ a House. The next slide is our upper level. 9- M of um, of the floor. You see right in the middle here are the steps to access the main level. Launder is right acro: from that Uh ou know gam to s het 0,1073u l y t`, 3 y € espb st j 1 ���� ��>'MP�'. But they get to have their own bedroom, and I know we'll talk a little bit more about this, but super intentionally designed. So each individual bedroom, approximately the same size, off of a hallway, access to a bathroom. Right now, believe it or not, if the, if the Hope House is full, we have six teens and two staff and one full bathroom. Six teens, two staff, one bathroom, getting ready for high school. So a lot of activity in the morning. Transcriptfrom meeting wNeighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 4 of 28 This will really help us in that arena. The next slide is our basement. This is our vision for 000 13:001 what we'd like to have, but it really depends on Um you know, kind of h0wy>t bi5 and really what's appropriate. j, ht,Atli;{i)(3#�65Std#tiy. It may not look like this, but the community has been extraordinarily generous to us, both financially and with, um, kind of goods of donation. 1pAd3 "54tf Gyj(pt#(tpyleef Ultimately we see, obviously there are mechanical rooms and things like that, but we'd like to have a small kitchenette. We were actually talking recently, a nice place for staff just to come and have a break, that's away from the teens when they get a break to have a place ust to have their own res ite while the re, while the re out So that's the basement yW yin_ ��11Rp f i (00:14:00] 114 13TJ4?,; '4?t t 'i k b �ji 1`�jifr City sewer and water, we're scheduled to begin this weekend. 'st 1 r• 4 c 16,16911 6,1 dnr, 'ka i.... • 'f P, Actually_, if ou drive by, you've seen a'�'j�'��d,t�,tit;���m��� There is, um, a city Planning Commission meeting on Tuesday the 17th, that's next Tuesday. The City Council is the following Monday. If all of those elements go well, we are available to apply for a building permit on the 24th. And, um, again, every, we have to tick all the right boxes. ;pg3 ff 1� ,' t ;°;[00:15:00] iko3 Once we again, you have to take all the right questions. So then the next slide, Diane is once again, thank you so much for being here. That's a really quick snapshot in us. And now we'd love to, um, hear from you. And so I think I will, if people will allow, uh, we'll be the moderator. Is there another mic if anybody wants a mic? Um, and then we'll allow the panel to answer questions. Um, so thank you for being here. We'd love to Thank you so much. John Roers (Neighborhood Resident): So, I understand this has robably been a few years in the works Um, I think the reason a lot of people are, tit thfst� f (( that this is been planned.... ah 2,q Roers (Neighborhood Resident): Yeah, like three vears ago would have been Transeriptfrom meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OAF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 5 of 28 Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): And not everybody got a letter, by the way. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): Nobody. Nobody I talked to got a letter, even about tonight's meeting. Unknown Neighborhood Resident: And we're not members of the church. Yeah, I Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): am sorry, we sent a Yeah, I'm sorry. You didn't get a letter we sent Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): three years ago. A liaison with the neighborhood might have been a really good idea. Three years ago, not two weeks ago. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Prior to seeing the cops continuously in our neighborhood. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): Sorry, do you mind repeating that prior to Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): seeing cops um with drawn weapons in June when I tried to pull into the neighborhood? Uh, very alarming. Um ti P 9 rY 9 �'' how they perceived the neighborhood. [00:17:001 They were with me. Police officers withdrawing AR 15s approached my car with my kids in the car. That's where they now sleep every night. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): I, I, I'm so sorry to ask you [unknown speaker: I think you have to use the mic'cuz of the HVAC system] but I thought what I heard you say is somebody, I just want to, I guess I don't want to say it because I'm not sure I heard you clearly. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: So C. J., I'll, I'll just kick off. C. J., respond. So a little bit about 180 degrees. We have shelters. ` n ,Ei , o#TIr]itlCi And, um, having, uh, you know, an incident, um, or incidences like that, uh, can be very disturbing I 1 get that for every neighborhood. I, 1 live in a neighborhood as well. Um andli#h ddY i ?[00:19:001 WN Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OAF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope Howe Proposed Expansion 6 of 28 And so it's important, I think, to understand, uh, what the, what, what an incident looks like and the, and the danger that it poses, right, to either a neighborhood. or the community. And often times, I mean all of our shelters are in neighborhoods. Um, various degrees of, of, of, you know, Saint Cloud, we're more rural setting in Rochester but we have housing developments in neighborhoods around us. }J fkj apO� i5 ! Q And when you think about the word homeless youth, you might be thinking about, [00:20:00] well, what's happening in the streets of LA or San Francisco. Um, that's not what happens here. Lisa Roars (Neighborhood Resident): We know what's happening in Minneapolis. It's not that far away. I'm just saying it's not that far away. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: And I live in Minneapolis, so I can tell you a different reality to how I live, which You know, I don't want to at into what that experience is for each of us What I am saying, a in , though v '%4" Y 9 9 � ` �'o'-,r� � 4�.�?e'�� .: ��i� Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): none of them, none of them and not prone to committing violence, [00:21:00] you're being very general and I don't think there's, you're not addressing specifics and that's fine. 1 understand what you're trying to do here, so we can move along. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: Okay. And I mean, would you, do you want to speak to that? No, that's your fear. What is your fear and then how is that fear related to the reality of the work that we do? And that's a very personal questionkcp$pi'gpgy. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): The fear is that there's four beds there now, six beds there now that are not controlled very well. And you want to multiply that times four? Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: So why don't you think they're controlled very well? Transcriptfrom meeting wNeighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 7 of 28 Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter. There was an incident in June. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): Yeah, and there's been others. There's been others. You can't just say there hasn't been. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: Let me finish my statement. There was an incident in June. A lot of times. what we have tried to do with the police is to to build relationshins. � 'do-- n.,,. Because we want our youth to also experience it. Is relationships with the police when it's not an emergency situation. So we try to invite them to the house as much as possible so they can get to know the youth in the, in the, so sometime you see a police car at Hope House, it's not there for an incident. It's there from a relationship building perspective. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): Well, I assume that they don't have their [00:23:00] lights on when they're building relationships. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: Most definitely. Sure. Whenever they like that helps. Thanks. Yeah. There's an incident and I, Unknown Panel Presenter 2: 1 just want to, I, 1 appreciate the. Perspective. I understand specifically talking about the incident in June. would like to give the context of the level of the response. We part we partnered with the sheriff and the sheriffs I have had conversations to make sure that this relationship is an active working relationship. Part of what what Richard is talking about is that the the the Active part of making sure that we have a positive outcome to any response for safety measures �:�. t ` ���y{'���(��'((�`y{�}s{.�.p�]��L"y`t4�' � �i}�yEyO0�24 O{�OiJy f����`$?L�♦"y[�p;���Y�Ji. q�y�p��,r2 fyC� � _i H�Itr �a�f'ifYdf �.M4�.J' yUCIL�WYSISG.�iS�fPur���it�. Yae�W���'itL1L�Ai���3 i titillU , Tfti ] But I was alarmed when I, how they responded. I asked questions after when I had to meet with the ollow up a ou a response. They gave several different reasons for why everyone showed up. And I think that that would be great. You know, conversations that have as even people in the community of when something's happening, like, why would, you know, what, what is, you know, what's the reason for said said [00:25:00] Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OAF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 8 of 28 that was their resoonse to make sure that everyone was safe. Lisa Roars (Neighborhood Resident): So mathematically, multiply that times four. That's what you're talking about in the next eight years. Unknown Panel Presenter 2 To make i00 26 00] sure that everyone was safe. Thank ya know. Thank God that that's that's what happened Everyone at the end of it was safe rt kkt))&'titicitisu779°aT)iFl"dHi3##iThS'S I. um. I always like I think about that. I will say that V)11'i:trappafted aact v y :pi ly had fou orlf[cal tncideRt&-ori]y Yeah. I, 1, 1, 1 understand. No, only I want, I want you, I want you to understand that I'm speaking in terms of like, we've operated for over eight years So I'm talking about like when you mean, wt—pn;hsay.crt ice ' .. r de ks, w)1af,, ghat we,experienc d' iIn June wefiar! four: You know, like Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): so mathematically Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): it only takes, one/multiply Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): that times four. That's what you're talking about in the next eight years. John Roers (Neighborhood Resident): So what we would expect is every six to eight months there would be an incident like that, based on [00:27:001 just the numbers growing and the history. Like that's, that's the problem. Unknown Panel Presenter 3: 1 think there's only two more beds being added now. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): No, they're building a new house. John Roers (Neighborhood Resident): There's probably going to be about 20 people if you wanted to actually do it. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): It was on the slides that they showed us. Transcriptfrom meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood OHF. & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 9 of 28 Unknown Panel Presenter 2: Yeah, I want to, yeah I want to also yeah like what what we're,�d with the, with the, with the bill, I want to also add to j5` Ka(t �Ii�'a1, It)5t t cs` or( NO. It is a response of individual beds, not, not shared rooms. Unknown Neighborhood Resident: So it's the current house won't have beds in it, just a new house. Unknown Panel Presenter 2: When we're talking about shelter in place, we're talking eight beds for a maximized use of eight teams at a time. Yes. Unknown Neighborhood Resident: I think the permit said 16 18. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): just wanted to address that. so much for bringing that up. It doesn't matter. But I think that is offering confusion. So I think that, thank you so much for bringing that up. [00:28:00] We are, as you saw on those slides, when you saw the bedroom slide, we will be licensed for an eight bed shelter. So if we're maxed out in the emergency teen shelter, we will have eight teens there at a time. The, why the CUP permit that came from the city inviting you to a public hearing, sorry I'm pointing at you, but you offered that great question, um, is that the CUP, how it is written with the city of Chanhassen, is that when we ask for that zoning for the shelter, you go into their standard format, which is a shelter of 8 to 16 beds. So when thev invited you to this were saving we So if we have an ADA team, one of the bedrooms upstairs would have to [00 29 00] be vacant. So we are adding 2 beds to what we're due now. So having said that I also want to say we have the current structure which has four bedrooms �q� „'NMI, ' " NO r s+ -rgC'� n., —, : x E r *� s"'"�r*. 1' ,r+`�� .wry ' i SE �ar�.'c.�.9 7's q ,,Y .. MR"NOR ..,., iA � t? ?R �.t.;�' 0.A�r21) +s —'e �, i+�"�:i'beIac�z-" rt?ec . ` .ICI ii' ) and we will consider all of that. As we go forward. I'm so sorry. May I call you out because I see you're nodding your head, so I don't know if you have a comment for me or John Roers (Neighborhood Resident): I know how this stuff works, right? So if you get a license for A to 16, this building will accommodate 16 at some point in the future. That just will happen. I mean, there's clearly space for it. There's those fourplex rooms. There's Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 10 of 28 upper rooms. You can double it. I don't want to sound What I want to offer Oh, I'm sorry. You were talking. Unknown Panel Presenter 2: [00:30:00] There's only eight beds in the build.. Home. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): Yeah, so I want to be really clear. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Subject to change. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): You're going to have zoning available to you to go up to 16. Just all you have to do is put in an application. So that's the, that's the, that's the slippery slope we're talking about. And we live here. These are our properties. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): This is our neighborhood. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): This is our home. Yeah. And you guys are already not managing what you have well. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Residential neighborhood. Low density. Yeah, I guess the question, 16 cars, let's talk about that. Yeah. Is there any type of guarantee, uh, around the uh capping of the, and because I think it, it's a legitimate question that if you're on for this over time it is, Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): it is an interesting consideration license. That's what I'd say. It's two different things. III like Dan speak to it One is the zoning and one is licensing So it really is two different, we're Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): What do you, what do you [00:31:00] zoned for and license for right now? Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): Right now we're licensed for up to six youth in, in our current shelter. And the zone is, I am so sorry. Does anybody know the exact language? Dan (Panel Presenter): Six unrelated adults, Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): six unrelated adults. I apologize. I don't have that. Thank you, Dan. Six. So, Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 11 of28 Lisa Roars (Neighborhood Resident): so you see that you're currently licensed for that. And now, you are going through the process to change that, so you can have up to 16. So what I'm saying is, all it takes is a few more pieces of paper, and now you guys are at 24. Or now you guys are at whatever. These, these kids, this is, this is, you're building a facility for bringing a lot of headaches into a neighborhood that shouldn't have them. A lot of, this is, I'm all for a small format. 16 people in a potential house, 16 cars plus staff. I mean, Derek (Neighborhood Resident): I'm curious to hear from you guys. So for the incident in June well you [00:32 00] talked about there was four other incidents Can you specifically speak MiNIMMEW ram so it doesn't ha en a aing s p�h�M 3�� rOh forsure.�u a ,. Unknown 180 Degrees Speaker: So, uh, this all started for us, um, when I came to 180 in 2015, where we had older and run down facilities. And, um, they weren't, they just weren't, uh, humanized. So, we call it trauma informed care, which to me is a fancy word for what's human. So, we've invested about 20 million over our facilities in the last, uh, three years, um, after [00:33:00] some extensive planning. So, it includes things like, um, cameras, door fobs. Um, when you think about a facility like this, it's a lot going in, it's not a lot going out. r i s t {L� s'Ar�t�ST��4 Ys k .Sf ^a ��3 r �Gl'x� � $3� � fRft �✓�' f So when, when we design these. new facihties�v�ljirj'�� .' - Um, you know, things that we think about where we live, the same things that we're doing in these facilities. Now, we talk about these incidences, a critical incident, um isn't, uh he can go throu h what a critical incident looks like 00:34:00 but this was, uh, M I've been in this business, uh, for 30 some years. I [gyp, „s'tUftt 00 G Um, I've worked with kids my whole career, over 30 years.,d; m Iola r I v 'ltZ wetf6t Ita aiCtct#oRaw,61A, ,;,,0eap0ns 1osWtnOt .t`ttave�Gces's%s �� bul� ...._ ik046 t OwLa ep , t rjjr s t(ta) f; And so, um, you know, it's, uh, I just, I, 1 always want to humanize this population of kids because they are, they are kids. Tt e re�1,�},y ar;btd,146iar 00.,13Yearojd.kis that oftentimes need a break from [00:35:00] family. And our goal is to reunite them with family. If it's possible. Derek (Neighborhood Resident): So I hear you, but it's a lot of generalities. So its a very specific question. And maybe you can speak better to it from the incident in June. Yes, it was Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 12 of 28 critical. Unknown Neighborhood Resident: So when you see an incident like that, and you see what, what's being reported and you're getting pinged by neighbors think you know, you're going to speculate, you don't real ,our neighborhood. You don't realiv know what's aoina on that. But mental issues, mental issues are a chemical imbalance in the There's a whole lot of damage that could be done to that person. They're not drinking, they're not taking drugs, but they got a mental imbalance because where [00:37:00] they've been. And then we are, we are left to deal with those people. In this neighborhood. And if there's four of them, that's one thing. If there's sixteen of them, that's a whole other story. It's a mob. And right now, the police officers can't do anything unless there's blood or bruises. So if there's someone in my backyard, I can't, I can't defend my house. Because that's illegal in Minnesota. I can't call the cops unless they hurt someone or hurt me. So, it's too late. I have to wait for hurt to happen. in order for the cops to take any action. So the only action I have is right now to make sure that this doesn't happen in my neighborhood. Unknown Panel Presenter 2: Yeah. I want to first he asked what we what we learned from June. What we ultimately understand from the situation in June was to two major pieces. brei Zetlt lhe3lfti:[oo:38:00])hihl thathappeiit ]; And, and this, and this is not, 1, I, 1 think I want to clarify that when we talk we talk about. you know. who. who comes to Hooe House?�]i'sno idffi' e Transcriptfrom meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 13 of 28 (eeop&, And so what we learned from June was in the intake process by working with other, with a county worker and their placement, you know, like the, the questions that need to be asked and making and, and double checking. [00:39:00] doftk,,, rt. This person had a plethora of things that happened all at once. Anc what happened. And I'm not saying this is sd,j a9MO with`you Sometjmes you,Justdoi'# k But what I'm also saying, just like Dan said, this is not a typical that June was not a typical situation. What we also learned from there is that in the new build your structure is not 1964 home It's not ooino to be easv for a 14. 15. 16 vear old to:aceessa,a it anei.'k tpalr a ca`hin'al�r nt:1r"s=yin from June eharpsond oherhicals aril stuff,,are not at And under that process of June, that's what changed. So that this isn't accessible in that way, if there's an incident in that way. If that answers your question. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): So that stuff was accessible to them prior to June? Unknown Panel Presenter 2: It was not (aid,?tt ae hotr`sstbleIt was tntbgI'd Hrabtiet ti Sxtfoolfeh And so, again, so it's like, this is something that happened that's outside of the �t normal life function. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): Yes, but these people are free citizens. 4 They can go out onto the street any day and go get something. They don't need to be behind a locked cabinet. Unknown Panel Presenter 2: 1 understand what you're saying with that. So when we talk about intake, and I want to quickly just talk about that. Within an intake process, there is a search. There is an intake that goes through. Well there's two I should say there's two processes TtzBflc&tr,esaIta1 ��vicess it1 whlahy�Q f� S coed uEttfsitrht(oo91oo]lnk�suretha�#filserdosn�khax�uiotbhtpas o'"th#xeJtatuessi}topah�tniatayoUsaytrrg,pttwst"tn'th@.morntrtgRule;donkhave� rend ,uiao,W_.__apttwo'an the mornjn9:. mmHg�oI,vpm�t�thsa¢enTr, ttts3fkCeh�ad�eh�ar���agner�'sx�coetl�sutoerxt��o��i�gW�a'tayr��Ar?�e#a�re�r��a'�ti,rn�ast�everJo if WJti� aFr�kyt�� y�ih: u��6 Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 14 of 28 Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): There's no bus line, but there's a group home that they're coming to, which is in our backyard. So that's, I don't know why, what do you mean by bus line? What are you trying to encourage? Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): I don't care what they come in with. We're talking about the personality of these [00:42:00] people and where they're coming from and the illnesses that they bring with them and the fact that they are prone because this is where they grew up. They grew up around chemicals. They grew up, a lot of them, around very, I mean, heartbreaking situations. But that's not going to mean that because you take something away from them, that they're not going to go acquire another one. They're teenagers. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): They're teenagers. With a bad past. With a bad past. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: So, so I do want, I do want to just say. We have a choice in school. I do want, I do want to just say. A lot of us go to private schools We're nit acn�ptin g, crtrnit�als Lisa Roars (Neighborhood Resident): You don't know that. -'Panel Presenter: I'm telling you, I'm just I'm let me finish the statement. I'm being very respectful when you're speaking (yes, I'm sorry) 6Y.7 John Roars (Neighborhood Resident): The only thing that means is that there wasn't a charged crime in their actual written report. But if that's a little different than what we're talking about, Transcriptfrom meeting mvNeighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 15 of 28 John Roers (Neighborhood Resident): Well, you can commit a crime and not be caught, right? Yeah. I've been 14, 15, 16. You're really stupid when you're 14, 15, and 16. 1 did a lot of stupid things. Good things at that age. Yeah. If so, I mean, well, Richard Coffee - Paned Presenter: [00:44:00] thank you for acknowledging that. But like what, what We can't like, what we like, it's, it is impossible. Like, just from a human perspective, rt'll s 1rlippasdbtp_fit�r me, fb day; ycu, are.,a€crzmir ail. %you 6 if;ypu haven't bee(d` ch' d ;d�ith 'eYlmex John Roars (Neighborhood Resident): if you break the law and you're a criminal, I I If you, Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: but, but if, if you break the law, right? If you break the law, that's neither hearing nor there a criminal. But if you, if you haven't been charged with breaking the law. Thenyou re not a criminal and then to prejudge a kid on that, that we, that ou haven't met slot " ` �..�: Sx '.� �� .,.:5i:£,hi I1a�MUMf i( o-'ieh@ii't1 Rick Winship (Neighborhood Resident): First off, I, just like I said, I'm empathetic. to the children's, uh, situations. I'm appreciative 100:45:00] of the work that you guys are doing. thank you from the heart. ou re doing n ht thigr back to the broad question2`` Uh and I think the bi uestion for me personally I think we would like to have some understanding of a guarantee that it does not go past me in what's in front of us right now. It doesn't relieve all of the concerns that are There are real issues out there. But for me personally, um kJjy#t , th'}ptai' [00:46:00]tjJfpd'(1 ik1di where people be put into the facility versus the need to update „and modernize a situation that is working for the group.psfIl aFlsfances niight..poibe,peifi@ct, Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 16 of 28 r.. pre, um hld behind the IIgh4, ycu krtnyt :m the daft" as"That needs to come to the light for us to be more comfortable. And to be a good partner, I think you guys should be reaching out and, uh, proactive. As opposed to being called out. REACTIVE. Joel Johnson (BOD/Sr. Pastor): We'll take that. There's no doubt we could do a better job on that. And, you know, we're dealing internally with the work it takes to even do this. And to partner with these gentlemen, especially, and the team who works in the house. If you could spend time with each of them, you'd really be, your lives would be richer. Just by [00:47:00] nature of who they are and what they do every day. For kids that really need this kind of touch. But, it's heard, you know. So, let me throw out a couple ideas for consideration too. We do tours of the Hope House. You are welcome to come through and see the Hope House. And you go through the tour, and 1 think if you're in the neighborhood, you would feel good about what you'd see there. I'd encourage you to consider that. Okay, you're not interested. That's fine. It's an option. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): I don't feel safe. I don't feel safe - it's the people in the house that make me feel not safe I can address part of that. Joel Johnson (BOD/Sr. Pastor): Let's close on this first though. Then you can go to the next thing. Too many back alleyways here. But on the communication side, we've done this in the past with our neighbors. etc. And, you know, we [00:48:001 could profile some of the work that's happening, you'd be more in touch with what's going on, and you'd let know instead of, um, assuming. 'e,5 f.YN .6 }'L a`r PAS k'{T C 3 .� „-,d;t�`�,,-�,g ,���>it����t�'t�tt?That's something we could put back in motion again and make available to the community. We'd be glad to do that. We'll address the numbers here. [NOTE: this is one-way communication, not asking for agreemnt, or participation from the neighborhood... that is dictation not communication] Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): And I just, if I may offer a sincere apology, I failed you on communication, so I want you to know that I heard you in spades, and I can't go back in time, but I'm going to take the hit on that. I think I failed. Not I think. I clearly failed you. Transcriptfrom meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF & 180 Degrees on 91102024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 17 of 28 Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): But that's how, that's how we judge your actions going forward, is by your past behavior. That's human nature, and how people protect themselves. Sure. So you can say whatever you want to say. Right? And you are. I mean, you guys are professionals at this. We understand that. And this is what we expected td4weyec, yoaar.past actlons:speak loui)e th-n your,"promise 010ll S [00:49:00] Itxs� l bout(i',d you ve actt3d In fhelpa9t That's how we judge what That's the way people. Present themselves, is their actions are who they are, not what they say they are. Okay. It's very important. 'Q ;'00.1mrts havg beeh' arppletely {00:50:00] fiowtl 1ppv understand that. Um, .ike sit in front of people and, you know, go through zones and codes and and stuff like that. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): So neither do we. Unknown Panel Presenter 3: We're just here to have a conversation. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Neither do we. Unknown Panel Presenter 3: Yeah. And so this is a conversation. We're not coming from a position where this is what we do every day. Um, Now, Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): 1 hope this is something you guys should be doing. Somebody should be doing this every day. Unknown Panel Presenter 3: We talk about our programs every day. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): You're well staffed, you're well trained, you're well heeled. You have all the resources in the world. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: Can you let us finish a statement and then we start? Unknown Panel Presenter 3: We're talking about, [00:51:001 every day we're talking about the hopefulness of what we do at 180 degrees. That's what we do every day. We talk to people. Transcript from meeting m/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OAF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 18 of 28 About what we see and why we do the work we do. And that's why we're successful at what we do, because we take care of other human beings. Unknown Panel Presenter 3: So I think we understand that, that concept, that. You're bringing here, right? John Roers (Neighborhood Resident): So why are you threatening all of our families by this action? That's not, Unknown Panel Presenter 3: that's not what I'm here to do. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: We never said that. Numerous Neighborhood Residents. Yes, you did. We never said that. Yes, you did. It's on the slide. And it's d'p1ne, 1'ft'S on the shde, And its on the website. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): You have two images. pibteet and ane:you wanttopro;®gf. Unknown Panel Presenter 3: So I have, I have a diagnosis. I've been diagnosed in the past with severe [00:53:00] anxiety. And I treat it with medication, exercise, nutrition. And so, am I currently Um, a threat to you in the room because of that. So I think we're coming at it from a different vantage point. John Roers (Neighborhood Resident): Obviously, not every resident is going to be a problem. In fact, I think the vast majority of them probably aren't, right? Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 19 of 28 Unknown Panel Presenter 3: And that's why we do our screenings. �egpase tue darJ'twe, pre,nnt a:treatm@nt renter: We are not an emergency room for mental health. We are not those things. Db we ha,yp kids thtconp,to us with, wltttmentafi healtYt diagnoses iike;:depresston and; arrziety?,Yes. Are we able to handle schizophrenia? No. Right, like there's, there's ft�IS dist"ncii4Yi 00:54 00 , _. t [ ] thpl w, And that's, Ond_tHwe.pgt O" c1yr, ©LTC, ' I of our,prpg�anis;togethsr._ It's the safety of everybody. It's the safety of our kids. It's the safety of our neighborhoods. It's the safety of our co workers. Everybody is in this together. And we, and if, you know, there's failings abound, that we can correct, and as we move forward. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): That's not true. You don't know that. That's not true. You had attempted stabbing in June. Yeah. How can you say that? Schizophrenia. How can you say that to us? Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): I mean, in very subtle ways. 1 [00:55:001, study th stuff. I am a Ph. D.. ore Ph. D.. and I iust had an interview with a oal on this whole tooic.I Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): And they're not going to tell you the truth, if they need a place to sleep. Richard Coffee • Panel Presenter. taut,,Wer,e ttttt we re. of depend[ng on thp.youth Mae its the �nyitr, We".rp.tyQtking wittimsq!P.g,Professi��isls that; Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): A professional who's also probably not getting the truth from the kid. You don't know it's true. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): In fairness to everybody, there have been three hands up, and so I sort of want to honor. I saw this one first, then you had your hand up. You can just answer that one rioht now. came out between. up to 16 [00:56:00] was when the category that they, that they fit this in. We have never had that lntejt[anto go above eight bets. Rick Winship (_Neighborhood Resident): I understand the intention. I think the question was more of a guerantge that that intention is, uh, to be more formal sure. Because I think that in my Transcriptfrom meeting wNNeighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 20 of 28 personal opinion, eight is not perfect, but 16 is a problem for me to, to get behind. And, and that is where I would want more affirmative clarity. Multiple Speakers: We don't, we don't, we don't operate with somebody that are, No, absolutely not. We don't crystal clear on them. Eight total children in the community age of 14. It really doesn't matter. That's what I personally would like to have some slightly, Some sort of a guarantee or some sort of written part of the this plan. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): Yeah. I, [00:57:00] I, I think we should acknowledge hearing that and then as a committee process and get back. I mean, thank you for being so clear about it and, and lust..1fi sfaix bed !,A 4a : ]tSs ]sihttieds tdmorrijw.-So how do we not, plus not six um, Lots of other concerns. No, no, no. I'm not trying to ignore the other concerns. Sorry. you have been persistent about that. So I just wanted to acknowledge that we had that. Let's get, several people have had their hands up. So, thank you very much. Unknown Speaker - does NOT live in the neighborhood: I'd just like to say, um, My husband and I lived in a neighborhood across the lake. 27 houses, probably not even half of them had teenagers. And 1 [00:58:00] just am saying this because this could happen in any neighborhood. don't care if it has a facility like this or not. It could happen in one of your houses. In our neighborhood, in, like I said, less than probably half of the 27 houses that had teens, we had one suicide, one drug overdose. And one young man that killed his sister in their home, shot up the whole house, and tried to kill his mother. And it's, you know, one of the, um, nicest neighborhoods around the lake. So I'm just saying, this could happen in the neighborhood here, it could happen across the street. These kids are coming from their own homes, they could be doing this in their own homes, in their own neighborhoods. So I don't see the difference. And how this makes any difference. I mean, if you think back in Minnetonka School District where our [00:59:00] kids went to school, um, in recent years there was one young man that was killed by the police because he had a mental health incident in his own home. So he wasn't in a facility like what we're talking. So it could happen in your neighborhood. But it has not happened in our neighborhood. There was another family, That the husband killed his wife, all three of his kids, and then himself. So it, it doesn't matter to me that this is a facility in this neighborhood. It could happen anywhere. Multiple Speakers: It could, but it doesn't. Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 21 of 28 It has not happened anywhere. But there's no guarantee. There is no guarantee. This has a mission to help teens that need help. Unknown Speaker - does NOT live in the neighborhood: Your, your, your answer would be the number should be zero beds. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): This Its a residential neighborhood, Unknown Speaker - does NOT live in the neighborhood: it's zero beds. You don't know that we're, we're trying to, you're assuming we're, we're trying to just understand what the mission is and do the best we can to [01:00:00] minimize an incident that would, would be upsetting and, and very, you know, um, um, you know, something that you have to talk to your kids about. Totally understand that, um, there could be an incident at Westwood Community Church. You have to still go back to your kids, your family and say, wow, you know, we live kind of close here. This happened. It's unfortunately a fact of life that sometimes things are going to happen. We can't guarantee nothing's going to happen ever, but over eight years, four incidents, one that I'm hearing a lot about in June, I don't know what the other three were. Um, It's no guarantee, you know, and it doesn't help, obviously, when you live in the area that those things would occur. Um, we're just trying to do the best thing possible for all of the kids that could be served by this mission and [01:01:001 try our best to minimize the impact. Future incidents can't guarantee it's not something Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): we're trying to do the best thing we can for our family. Unknown Speaker - does NOT five in the neighborhood: If you had something like this happen in your own family. Yeah. So would you expect all your neighbors to say. You have to leave the neighborhood. John Roars (Neighborhood Resident): I think the point you're making actually proves the opposite of what you're saying, right? It's like, kids have a tendency at that age range to do kind of wild things. And even when they're dispersed among homes, they do. Now talk about concentrating in one place. That's right in their backyard. That's the point we're making. You're concentrating that into one place, right? So you're vastly increasing the life Unknown Speaker - does NOT live in the neighborhood: Yeah, but you're saying that all of those kids are dangerous. No. You're Well, I would say otherwise the incidents really isn't any different than what might happen in each of your own homes. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Do you live in the neighborhood? Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 22 of 28 Unknown Speaker - does NOT live in the neighborhood: I, we lived across the way. No, I Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Do you live in the neighborhood. I asked this simple question. Unknown Speaker - does NOT live in the neighborhood: We don't live next to the [01:02:00] church. Of course not. But we own two properties right across the street. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Do you live in the neighborhood? That was my question. Unknown Speaker - does NOT live in the neighborhood: Okay, it's the same thing. We have two houses across the street. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): You don't live here. Rodney Proven (Executive Dir): I'll go back to the last thing, you know, and again. You know, the June incident was clearly an upsetting incident that, um, is something that there's been a lot of thought about and how do we learn and try to, try to be better. Um, there's no guarantee about all of this. Again, I would go to the question of, would you prefer that there be no house that helps teens? Multiple Speakers: Yes, that's just I think that sounds like you would prefer that you would like that. Can you guarantee this will never happen with any of your own children? It's all odds. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): You work with, you try to improve your odds of things not happening. That's what we're talking about. Unknown Speaker - does NOT live in the neighborhood: This would never happen in your own house. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): You have to measure both sides of it. Can you guarantee that? You can't just look at the poor children. It's not what we're talking about. You have to look [01:03:00] at the risk of it as well. You have to. Look at both sides. Unknown Panel Presenter 3: No, and I think The odds of something happening I think the folks that are on staff every day are, are trying to, I think, communicate their, um, uh, you know, their, their hearing what you're saying, and, and I know nothing about how the communication to get to this point is involved. So ZERO, that's a, that's a different thing that Rod I think has has you know, talked about. All I want to know is If, if you had your druthers„tihlrk t s�tppise tpcis4 iiejghtagrs upQiald sgy;oh;`I Transcriptfrom meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 23 of 28 But it's here, it's here. And so, it's, it is here and it's operating. It is one of those where I think, uh, let's, and let's make sure we get the numbers right. It's not going up to 24. No, no, no, we're okay. We know the numbers. It's going by two more. We know the numbers. And it's going to [01:04:001 be a house. I think if I can, if I know what this house is going to be like um, a much more secure, um, house thr t p ko M,mrmze,r sks o[, of, ofsome,fnctden, OLpperiing. Um, again, I understand from where you're coming from, but I think these folks have done a lot of things. Yeah. Derek (Neighborhood Resident): I mean, the one commonality in the room is everyone that's in here. Live somewhere. And we're all in a neighborhood. And when something like this is getting introduced, you, being a neighbor, have to understand the perspective. And, you know, to the points that have been addressed tonight, that was just totally out of the equation. And it's extremely concerning. We're looking at recent history. [01:05:00] Seeing this, you know, track record of what's happened. And it just really does not. I understand the mission. We all, we all care about kids, but in this being addressed in this manner, it's just really not something that's entertaining. Libby (Neighborhood resident): We care about the kids too. We're not bad people. There's just lots of land places. This is like, right in our backyard. It's residential. And when I, 1 came here a year ago, 1 [01:06:00] lived across 41, and I was like, this neighborhood is gorgeous. I love driving in, I love looking at this beautiful church. I thought, oh my gosh, that's gorgeous. I tell people, do you see the beautiful church, Westwood? We live behind that. Like, it's beautiful. And then I thought, well, I asked people, what's that little house right there in the garden? And they told me and I thought, okay, you know, that's kind of nice to_hel somekidss oyf� course. But then you know, the incident ha��pened MM> . And, um, Um, I feel like, Uh... how do I articulate it Ijust feel like the bottom line is that we, it's not that we don't care about helping kids Tl�1 P N 1►� . � . k� p TONO ` p p )O - Like we you want to keep everybody safe. We know your intentions are so good, but. tt� Transcriptfrom meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 91102024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 24 of 28 And you'd say, oh, well, that's you know, they take in troubled teens they help and It's not just the small house like right now. They think oh wow Okay Maybe we should reconsider or maybe looking in this neighborhood You know, there could be odds of issues or maybe higher than if I went, you know, five miles back to my old neighborhood ,���� ��_§�&���4�"!�;��3rr�iti>����,�[���1<aG(p. There's just so much land, like can't we, there's gotta be a way to find somewhere that's not our backyard. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): But to get off that topic, we [01:08:00] all, as private citizens III speak for myself, I know a couple other people who also get, fip rgur€i@ra'g 06"stllCing,;tt€2t we dpn`t ear8, qr ttjat tfi 100,041, 900e0: 0ywlhor I give my own personal money to help people, okay? I volunteer time, I've mentored, um, all the time. So, we need to get off that, that base, first of all, okay? I don't want to be spoken to that, if it was, this was your assumption of me, which was if it was my choice there would be zero, um, that's your opinion, that's not what I said. [01:09:00] Unknown Panel Presenter 3: Thank you everybody. Oh, I'm so sorry. Unknown: I'm just like, I'm not a public speaker, but I sit here and I listen to the hearts of every one of you in this room. Thank you. Thank you for coming tonight. I'm a grandma and much older than everyone here, but I'm also a prayer warrior, and I pray to Jesus above to hear the hearts of each one of you in this room tonight. These one, two, three, four, five men have been involved in a ministry for three, four years that I've heard some of the inside things that have just allowed me to be openhearted and to love them and the people they are helping. I volunteered in a Furnishare, which is through the Love Inc. of all the different churches. And a boy came into one day, I was alone in there, and he said, You know, I'm 14 years old, and this Love Inc. reached out to me when I had no family that had any concern [01:10:00] about me. And they have led me into who I am today, and I'm coming back to serve free and volunteer. And thank you all for caring about me. me. These kids need help from somebody or they wouldn't be picking them up and taking them in. And only one thing that I can see can develop from there is Jesus Christ fitting into the hearts of all of us to pull together to understand what goes on. They're learning things tonight that they didn't know when they went into helping someone through the hearts of these men and they're learning from it too. Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 25 of 28 And what you've expressed tonight has been good. Be c�i7gn is probably true Xdu sha.,gid fie a be010liotifla I would have never thought of notifying all the neighbors. I live right across the street here and I have never heard one ounce of noise or any sirens at night to waken us up because of this whole house. So I'm just here just to say there is such a thing of feeling there are some kids and maybe they'll be your kids one [01:11:00] day that are snagged in with some drugs. Through the schools or the places that they've been going and hanging out, and they are going to need help because you are not gonna know how to do and what to do. You have got a church here and you have got men that care to take their time to be able to love them through the deepness that they're walking through. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Yeah, and that's what I said. We do the same thing and we do the same thing. There's appropriate places to do this and there's places where you don't do it. Thais shy xdnjittis m piece;: Thet'o.s cftarapi r,:lhers ipaagg;;-There's like mindedness of neighborhoods. That's how this works. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): And there's a lot of ways to help teenagers that don't require a 16 person house to be built. You can one on one team mentor people. There are a ton of other ways that you can reach out to these teens without building that house. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): Oh, sorry, I interrupted you. Yeah, I was just saying I want to be clear, there no ihtenf for a 16 bedroom house. No. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Intent doesn't matter. Intent doesn't matter. No, intent doesn't matter. I'm just saying. Things change. Things change. Lisa Roars (Neighborhood Resident): [01:12:001 There's a lot of ways to help teens that doesn't require building or expanding a building. Yeah. There's a lot of ways to help those teens. I agree. That doesn't require a building. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir) You,reidxact)y right hart you s4 rTILGf3 Thank you all for being here tonight, for sharing comments f th! ehajrlgs tp proi aa' We, did everybody share their email or their mailing address with us when they came in? So that we have an opportunity to communicate. Yes. Okay, great Sp bece€rseW, "obv(Qulya(k1',ta Lisa Roars (Neighborhood Resident): And by the way, we live right there. You know, ten minutes, one of your people, three years ago, could have walked around and put flyers in our mailboxes. I mean, it would have taken ten minutes. Agreed. We understand. You don't need email. Transcript from meeting w/Neighhorhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 26 of 28 Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): That's how they operate. I'm just saying. That's how they operate. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): We operate with love. I hope you feel Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): without communication for your neighbors. You say you're a good neighbor. What definition do you apply to a good neighbor? [01:13:001 When you say that, because you say it a lot. in is i,keeping people thedark2 mean, what, what, where do you say? Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: He's a good neighbor. He's not a perfect neighbor. So we all learn and we should be better by all of us right? There's not one person in here Were all learnino. But we learned a lot today., e`iearne$3hatvtte"couldl aVe lefiriitely' ika..bee'n,i alter We wt11,jbg bettai it3 thOtioe.-pesi)ag' Like, we're not perfect, man. We make like, we make mistakes and I get it. I understand everything, but I heard tonight, I, 1 understand like, and when you, when you're asking him, but I just wanna be specific to what you're asking right now. He didn't say he was a perfect neighbor. So I think one thing that Me' techrrl dt4nlgtltls;tkleCo[tlmuAiGation. So I, I'm sure moving forward that he's gonna be better at communicating right? That's something that that didn't happen in the past, and I agree. Ltke C. j. •k, t stiare vo r=frustratiohs. Like'if"! 1 So, and, and I'll [01:14:00] be frustrated as well, but I also think like we are all human. I think he, he admit that he should have been better at communication. I think this is very helpful, uh, and very direct, which I love Direct conversation. I think moving forward from a communication perspective, like, I think that'd be different. It's impossible to go back, right? Three years. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): It is. That's why you use past experience to judge how somebody acts in the future. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: Right. So I don't totally agree with that statement. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): You have to, if you're a smart person and you're concerned about your safety, you understand your surroundings. You know this. Richard Coffee - Panel Presenter: People change, though, is all I'm saying. People change. Yes, they do. And I think some experience is to help. I think this experience will help change and form a similar direction from a communication perspective. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): Communication and character. Keep in mind that, you know, I'm feeling attacked. I'm just going to share that with you. Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 27 of 28 am a man of integrity. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): I feel attacked, yeah. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): And I apologize [01:15:001, for that, if I attacked you. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Not in that way. Wo-'[e being,atta , Redunth a it eati 111at,is, yotr; krs _W, given us ai�i iety Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): And I'm apologizing for that. We need to that's what I'm saying. Let's take this great information. We've heard your passion. We've heard your concern and I think we need to revisit and if you like communication via door knockers or I mean we can do you know, we'll communicate the way you want the best way to communicate that needs to be improved Thank you for coming tonight. Thank you for sharing W [have �1-1& thtnk;`i �)SF11�3 Gentlemen, anything you want to offer in addition, conclusion? No? Thanks for coming out. Yeah, we're so grateful to hear. Oh, I'm so sorry. Lisa Roers (Neighborhood Resident): You also did not communicate to us when you opened up the building to start with Sq haaS:aWgrulaap6y44£[01:16:00] drng;nd.yau,alsst.tlit[rt'.# comwxltani�afe Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): But we have to be notified of the informative process. Rodney Provart (Executive Dir): There's no question. Loud and clear. Jason Christensen (Neighborhood Resident): Several neighbors, she said everybody she talked to did not receive a letter. Ten. That's why. I had to knock on doors and people were surprised, okay? This is a big deal to our neighborhood. And we, we, we get the MO, we understand how you guys operate. Multiple Speakers ^ao we,'re,going #a,bevefi4 v y ga 2f" fib, w6.p 0ceed,` 0"irwrl 2rK1. You have rock and you have heavy equipment there and you've removed trees. And you haven't heard from a [01:17:00] sin le nei hbor. And You removed a lot of trees in this green area that you say you want to protect.rI ARj I'q Transcript from meeting w/Neighborhood Presenters: Westwood, OHF, & 180 Degrees on 911012024 Topic: Hope House Proposed Expansion 28 of 28