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PRC 2007 11 27 CHANHASSEN PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING NOVEMBER 27, 2007 Chairman Stolar called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.. MEMBERS PRESENT: Glenn Stolar, Steve Scharfenberg, Tom Kelly, Thor Smith, Dan Campion, Paula Atkins and Jeff Daniel STAFF PRESENT: Todd Hoffman, Park and Rec Director; and Jerry Ruegemer, Recreation Superintendent APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Scharfenberg moved, Daniel seconded to approve the agenda as presented. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 7 to 0. PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENTS: Hoffman: Chair Stolar, did you formally want to add a thank you? Stolar: Well I was going to do it under public announcements. Hoffman: Okay, great. Stolar: Okay, so now we're going into public announcements. First, Todd and Jerry, you want to announce any events coming up? rd Hoffman: Highway 212/312 grand opening to Highway 41 next Monday, December 3. 10:00 a.m.. All are invited. If you want to attend, obviously arrive a little bit early. 9:30, quarter to 10:00. Drive on from Dell Road and drive westbound on the new road and then you'll run into the traffic jam. Stop. Get out of your car. Walk forward and listen to the speakers and I'm not sure, I would assume, at least Lieutenant Governor Molnau, Carol Molnau will be there but I'm not sure if Governor Pawlenty is going to be there or not but other speakers will be there. Probably cake and some other festivities and then when they open it up, we're all heading west to 41 and getting off the road so it's a very historic day and if you're interested in attending, please do so. th Smith: That's Monday the 10 at. rdrd Hoffman: Monday the 3. This coming Monday the 3 at 10:00 a.m.. I would arrive on Dell Road at 9:30 or 9:45. Probably 9:30. Kelly: Where are they setting up on the. Hoffman: They're setting the tent up at the interchange of Highway 101 in Chanhassen. Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 Ruegemer: Tree lighting ceremony is coming Saturday night starting around 5:00. We'll have Santa and his elves coming again this year on the fire truck. Yes, with lights and sirens. We'll have a big bonfire going Saturday night to keep us warm. The Chamber will be there serving refreshments and cookies so everybody gets a candy cane so we'll light the tree at about you know 5:15ish. We'll have carolers from LCLC there Saturday night so it should be a fun event. Stolar: And then I think there's the breakfast on Sunday. Hoffman: Yeah, Breakfast with Santa, 8:00 til 1:00 at the Rec Center. And there's also a Girl Scout Boutique there this year selling their wares in the gymnasium. Stolar: Okay. Anything else? Okay, then I had asked Todd via email, given the opening of the dog park at the Minnewashta Park which, we've gotten some good press. Some good reviews and Tom was out there he said yesterday or. Kelly: Saturday. Stolar: Saturday, and I just wanted to publicly thank the commissioners here who helped participate in getting that going and then also Jack Spizale and Anne Murphy for their work initially in getting this going so I want to publicly thank them. Jack, as you guys saw an email, has already been out there. We'll have to send some pictures to Anne to thank her for her work on it too, but it's a great accomplishment and I have to get out there this weekend to take a look at it but I thank Todd and Jerry and Marty and Lenny and all the other people. I know some of your guys helped by loaning equipment and his guys worked on it so it was a great team effort. Hoffman: You bet. And we haven't received a single bill yet from Carver County so. Stolar: Well and Tom, what did you say as we were walking in? Kelly: $25,000 well spent. Stolar: Yep. Very well spent. So thanks and again, we'll have a ceremony, what did you say in the spring? Hoffman: Spring. I would assume April or May. How was the parking when you were there? Kelly: Pretty open. I can see though that it could be, people will be parking down that road on, yeah. Stolar: Any other public announcements? VISITOR PRESENTATIONS: None. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:Daniel moved, Smith seconded to approve the verbatim and summary minutes of the Park and Recreation Commission meeting dated October 23, 2007 as presented. 2 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 2008 PICNIC RESERVATION FEES. Ruegemer: Thanks Chair Stolar. As a commission you look at the annual fees for picnics. Usually in this month, November. We try to get ahead of the game a little bit before the picnic phone calls start for 2008 and kind of establish our picnic fees. We looked at a lot of information about the picnic residency information and kind of how picnics were booked totals, plus kind of where they were booked out during the course of the week last month so while it's still fresh in the commission's mind we'd like to kind of establish the 2008 fees tonight. We're definitely entering into a new, exciting time with the addition of the new Parkview picnic shelter at Lake Ann. It looks like it's going to be a very welcomed site at, to offer another covered option out at Lake Ann. I think the public is going to be very excited about that. Looking ahead for that, I tried to do some other information. Sort of looking online as to Three Rivers Park District and also with the City of Chaska and some other local areas to kind of see where we kind of fit for prices for the new shelter. You know it really wasn't the apples to apples comparisons but what I tried to do was kind of look at currently what we have and what we're charging for both Lake Susan and Lake Ann and kind of get somewhere, you know look at the amenities that are offered for both the structures south to kind of where we're going to be ending up. The new shelter, the Parkview site is going to be a little bit bigger than what we have currently in place but will be lacking permanent restrooms, that sort of thing so I tried to kind of get the, kind of the ballpark for the Lake Susan shelter where we might deal with it less in amenities. We definitely make up for it in space so what I tried to do was kind of base it on Lake Susan for the prices. I wanted to stay a little bit lower than the current shelter at Lake Ann because I believe that's our signature shelter here for the park and facility rental so it's my recommendation that we keep the fees the same for 2008 and then increase the Parkview picnic shelter fees to that of the Lake Susan prices, and those are corresponded on the, I guess it'd be the third page in the document items here for the item, for the packet I guess would be so the resident private, Friday through Sunday would be the most expensive rate for that would be $100. They kind of keep going down from there to Lake Susan. I certainly have entertaining any types of comments, questions regarding the prices for the picnic rates for 2008 and I'll leave that for the commission to discuss at this point. Stolar: Any questions? No? Kelly: Was there a concern that a lot of businesses come in under private, that they'll say, let's say the business is Target or the person can call up as a Chanhassen resident and call up and actually make the reservation under their name trying to get the lower rate, do you think that happens? Ruegemer: All the time. Yep, and we certainly try to, I certainly try to sift through some of that but I mean there's really, I know it's happening all the time that residents are having residents book the space for them. You can see that the numbers that we have, you know through the reports that are included. Certainly the large majority, a large percentages of the rentals are resident rates. You know people are certainly finding ways around paying non-resident rates. 3 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 Kelly: Have you considered getting rid of the private versus business and having just a flat resident rate and then a non-resident rate. And then a third rate would be a non-profit rate. And do away with that, I mean I was just wondering… Ruegemer: …up for discussion, certainly. Stolar: And actually I was, it took a long time to find. I was looking at, for the most part resident private, resident business are the same during the week, but I did notice in Lake Ann there was a little exception there. Ruegemer: We did drop those down a little bit in the past you know with kind of the Rosemount trying to book stuff during the week to get out you know for more team building events during the course of the lunch hour and then 11:00 to 2:00 timeframe for team building so we really tried to kind of entice businesses to come out to different locations and if the commission would certainly like to look at a different fee structure, I certainly would be up for the discussion. Stolar: Well I guess I was just thinking along the same lines as Tom that you know, maybe we just have a set rate for, it may be different for the weekends though Tom but I think during the week there's just one rate. I guess what I look at it, individuals who want it for the weekend, well I could see the same rate for both that too. Something to think about. Hoffman: If you're lucky enough to have a friend in town, you're in business. If you don't have any friends in town, you're paying the non-resident rate. Atkins: The non-profit, senior group discount, is that both for residents and non-residents? Because it's 25% off if you're a church group? Hoffman: Or a senior group. Atkins: That's a good deal. Stolar: Any, Tom do you want to make, propose a change or are you just, something to observe for this year and think about it for next year? Kelly: Maybe something to think about. Well, actually I wouldn't mind making a proposal to, for staff to consider looking into a resident versus non-resident rate, eliminating the business versus private designations. And it would be my preference to have the rates kind of float more towards the current business rates as opposed to coming down towards the private rates. I just think our, I mean I think our parks are great and I think, I mean I know you're comparing it to Chaska and maybe Eden Prairie but I don't know if they have, I don't know if they have a lot of the amenities in the lakes that we're offering. Ruegemer: Chaska's fees are extremely low, a lot lower than our's. And I do get those phone calls like well holy cow you know, Chaska is $50. How come you're charging $200? It's like well, I believe we have, just like you said, nicer options. Nicer amenities. Buildings, that sort of thing so I think we have a lot more to offer but. 4 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 Hoffman: Well they're making a choice to not cover the cost. Daniel: You know I'm looking at the City of Chaska, I mean again, and I don't know where Glen Lake stands as far as where that works out. That's on the Jonathan Association or Lion's Park and some of the other options but still you know, I agree with you Jerry then. If you look at the amenities that are available. The location. Proximity. All those things. I think they certainly provide a big value so. Kelly: I would, I always reserve views and it's always…with the exception, some people may have 2 or 3 when it comes to fees but beyond that it's just ones all the way down. We're the highest one. One of the 5 but we just seem to get stellar reviews from everybody. Stolar: So there's a motion on the table to have staff look at combining resident, private and business into a single resident rate and non-resident private, non-resident business into a single rate, correct? You still want schools. Kelly: Correct. Yes. Stolar: Alright. Do we have a second on that recommendation? Daniel: Second. Stolar: Okay. I don't know, is this more just a recommendation or are we trying to make a motion to actually do it? Kelly: Look into it. Stolar: Look into it, so I don't think we need a motion. Just feedback, and if you would get back to us. Some thoughts about whether that makes sense. Ruegemer: Should we make the decision then in December? At our December meeting? Stolar: I don't think so. Is 2 weeks enough time because we only have 2 weeks. Okay, so why don't we just do that. We'll, can we table this and put it under old business for next meeting? All in favor of tabling. Stolar moved, Kelly seconded to table the 2008 picnic reservation fees to the December Park and Recreation Commission meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 7 to 0. Hoffman: It's probably not a bad thing to take a couple of lines out of those charts. It just makes it a little bit cleaner. Campion: Is there any data on maintenance versus the total fees collected? 5 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 Ruegemer: For labor? What it costs for labor to clean shelters and maintain? Campion: Yeah. Ruegemer: I don't know if we have that. Stolar: One would guess it exceeds the revenue by a large margin. It's an amenity. Part of it is an amenity. Part of it is to recoup some costs. Part of it is to give preference to the residents to have use first. I mean there's a couple different incentives but to make it a self-funded is not one of the actions. Hoffman: You're going to cover some garbage costs and some other things but to maintain the shelters year after year and keep the areas clean. It's one of those things where, if you look at the cash, the 9 1/2 thousand, you're probably looking at 10,000 people that use it and that's really what it's all about. 10,000 weddings and family reunions and graduations and 10,000 people attending those type of events in the community is always a good thing. Stolar: Yep, and we also have to consider the fact that I'm sure there's a lot of use that's not reserved when it's open that people just use it. Ruegemer: Point of clarification. We're still, we're talking about having Monday through Thursday rates and Friday through Sunday? Stolar: Yeah, I think so. Ruegemer: Okay. Kelly: In terms of cleanliness, is there, if a party is coming in 12:00 on a Saturday. Does city staff go over there early Saturday morning and make sure the bathrooms are clean and trash is picked up or is it just, okay. Ruegemer: It's cleaned 7 days a week. Kelly: It is? Okay. Ruegemer: They're usually there by 6:30-7:00 in the morning on Saturday and Sunday mornings. And then they do garbage. Make sure the bathrooms are okay. Power wash many times the shelters themselves. Hoffman: But there could be a gap if they're coming in at 3:00 where it was cleaned that morning and then people moved in and had some activity in the shelter and then when they showed up at 3:00, if there's nobody there, there's bottles and cans and wrappers around and then they would have to do some pre-clean-up. That's where you would get those comments that it wasn't clean. Stolar: Okay? We'll talk about then in December. 6 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 RECREATION PROGRAM REPORTS: 2007 HALLOWEEN PARTY EVALUATION. Ruegemer: Thanks again. I just wanted to thank all the commissioners that were there at the Halloween Party. It certainly was a nice event again. We had, really had a pretty nice crowd out there. Everything really did seem to flow really well. It didn't seem like there were things backed up. It seemed like we were, this year we kept people in the gym for the entertainment, which was kind of nice. Then kind of spread out the event a little bit. The games were you know busy at times and John kind of addressed that within the report here, so certainly always looking to improve and how we can really add some additional games to kind of keep down lines, that sort of thing but really the event really does flow very nicely. The hayrides are always a fun event for a lot of people that don't have an opportunity to participate in any rides. You know the entertainment was, we kind of broke away from you know traditional entertainment a little bit and tried to get something new in this year with the DonB was really kind of a fun show. He did a lot of different, had a lot of different components for the show. Juggling to running miniature unicycles to doing different things so it was a lot of fun. I don't know if we have it on here but we also had the escape artist out there as part of his record breaking quest I guess that night and so Don really worked well as far as introducing Jonathan Bryce for the event what he was trying to do so it really did kind of work out nicely. We really had a captive audience for him, for the escape artist, Jonathan Bryce in the gym itself. A lot of people really did stay kind of for it after the entertainment, main entertainment was done so I think that really worked out well. You know for us it really wasn't any more coordination for the event and for Jonathan, hopefully it provided him with some additional witnesses for his record breaking feat so. Stolar: And that was on TV. It was on the news. Ruegemer: Yep. Yeah, on KARE 11 so we kind of looked at it you know for minimal effort on our part, we certainly got some free fun out of it and you know free fun is good fun on our part so. Stolar: And the people liked it. Ruegemer: Yeah. Stolar: I mean the audience liked it. Ruegemer: Yeah. So hopefully you know because he originally was going to be out here at City Center Park in the dark and then we thought let's just come on out to the Rec Center. We've got an audience there that night and he certainly went for it so that was good but you know just a lot of different components to the event. You know the Key Club certainly played a major role in providing the volunteers for the event again so it really worked out nicely. The Rec Center staff is always very helpful when it comes to setting up and registrations and answering our phones during the event and cleaning up afterwards so it was a good event. They did a nice job on his first one so it helped to have certainly Charlie and the rest of the maintenance crew involved with 7 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 that. They really do bring a lot of experience to the table and put John's mind at ease as well so again thanks for everybody for being there. We certainly, there's general comments there that we can go through is the commission would like to tonight but it was a great event. A lot of people seemed to have a good time. We always have really nice costumes for that and just appreciate everybody being there. Stolar: Anyone have any comments, questions? I'll just say that Jeff kept scaring people in his Darth Vader costume. It was a great event. 2007/2008 WINTER PROGRAMMING REPORT. Ruegemer: Thanks again. All these programs listed in the memo here certainly were included in our winter Connection for that so just allows you know preschool and youth activities going on. Daddy/Daughter Date Night is certainly getting a lot of attention already for that. That's probably the second weekend in February for that. We kind of changed a couple things around during the youth programs. We kind of split off from Chaska and Eden Prairie from the cities and kind of doing our own thing during the holiday break or Christmas break for the School Day Out Adventures now for our portion of it now. It's, all the classroom experiences so John's going to take them up to the New Hope Cinema and watch a movie and have some lunch and then the second day, It's All About Fun will be at the Rec Center and then they'll be doing different games in the gym. You know just do different board games. Nancy Gangeur our craft person will be doing different arts and crafts so hopefully it's a way, it's a good option for parents, if they need to have to go to work during the break when the kids are off of school, or certainly is trying to provide an option for parents hopefully at a cheap price to get people in the door and keep people going so. A lot of different stuff going on throughout the, this includes my programs that I have to provide. Tom's goals at the Rec Center. John's programs so it's all kind of listed in here and then a lot of different kind of themes, craft classes with that with Nancy and that sort of thing so. And different various fitness programs and basketball, that sort of thing so kind of an update for the commission just to kind of see what's going on during the winter time. If anybody has any you know questions or new program ideas, we certainly would entertain that at this time. Stolar: A quick question. On the Jazzercise, they were in the warming house. Are they going to have a space this year? Ruegemer: Tom is going to be scheduling them inside of the Rec Center and he'll be able to accommodate their needs at this time. Stolar: Okay, thank you. ADMINISTRATIVE: 2007 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM REPORT. Hoffman: Thank you Chair Stolar, members of the commission. I'd like to update you on the 2007 Capital Improvement Program for parks, trails and how the projects are coming along. Spent the last few weeks at Lake Ann working on both the athletic field lighting and the Parkview shelter project. These projects are moving along with some difficulty in the area primarily of concrete. Five of the footings were initially failed on the lighting standards. They 8 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 have since gone back and completed some additional review on two. They're 15 feet deep in the ground. Need to be 2% or less out of plumb on a vertical. Two of them are about 3 1/2% and we have now approved those through some engineering recommendations. Instead of removing those, we removed 3 for various reasons. One was egg shaped and then the other two had the reinforcing rods that hold the bolts for the light standard too close to the edge with the possibility of cracking off. So we removed those three. We're going to leave the other two. These three need to re-poured over the next week or so and then all the footings will be in. All the wires are pulled, with the exception they'll have to patch, pull those areas in that have been, the three that were removed. And then the light bulb will come in December-January and they'll be installing those over the winter and working on their electrical work on the inside. So that's where the field lighting is. Again that contractor's is Hondo Electric. They're from Loretto and that contract is just over $400,000. Daniel: I've got a question Todd. What's he going to do with the footings? Hoffman: They're hauling them off and dumping them. Daniel: So they yanked them out of the ground. Hoffman: Yeah, we've jacked three of them out of the ground. Took a Swift House Moving about a week to complete that. They jacked them out with house moving jacks. Daniel: Okay. Hoffman: It's probably, I'd hate to estimate but at least a $10,000 fix for Hondo Electric and it was primarily due to lack of care on the original installation. Stolar: And that concerns me because there seems to be consistent problems, right? Hoffman: Well, construction there are problems. As owner I didn't feel comfortable, as the owners are presented, I didn't feel comfortable with what we had or what we received. These improvements are for life. These light standards will be there for 100 years and so, I really didn't care what it took. I wasn't going to purchase on behalf of the City what I didn't think was right and so we settled on that and he's committed, the owner, he's committed to doing it. He was out there today working on that final one and his son was part of the crew that put them in so, didn't have a whole lot, probably quiet dinner table that night. So just one of those things and then the shelter itself, they poured half of the shelter slab, which was approximately oh about 30 by 110 yesterday and covered it. We seem to get good curing but we're not quite sure. We probably won't know until spring if that concrete properly cured or if it had some partial freezing so. They did not pour the other half this morning. They didn't expect 6 degrees or 8 degrees. They thought it would be closer to 17 degrees. So they're probably not going to pour the other half. They have the footings in and they'll build the shelter this winter. The shelter's coming in again January. They'll build the shelter in the spring. We'll evaluate the slab that we have there. Either approve it or fail it and then we'll go from there and they'll either have to re-pour that one or go with that one and then finish off the rest. And then we'll also be doing a change order from all seed to sod because once we finish this thing up and get it restored, we want it to be useable 9 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 so we'll be changing the process in a change order for the winter to go from all seeding to sod. But other than that the shelter's, if you get a chance take a walk up there. The siting of the shelter is going to be very exciting for people and Jerry and I and Dean Schmieg talked today. It's a beautiful area. It's set off to the woods to the west where you can kind of create a little setting for formal ceremonies and so we'll start to get some weddings and other types of ceremonies taking place there so, nice addition. It really takes that park view area and just changes the whole. It's a big building but it changes how people are going to utilize that space and it's going to become I think a really premiere outdoor meeting space in our community. Power Hill Park trail is complete and being well used and no complaints. That's always good when you complete these neighborhood projects, that there's no issues with the neighbors. Tennis court repairs were all completed early on in the summer and you can't believe how late st the tennis courts were used this year. Traditionally November 1 has been our net take down date and we've had to extend that almost to Thanksgiving on a yearly basis so we have taken off st our November 1 date and now we leave them up until the weather is almost ready to freeze them down to the court and then we'll run out there and grab them because people are still out there playing tennis. …the off leash dog area where some parents approached the city and said we're working on a pretty elaborate tennis improvement project, both for Middle School West and East and it just never got legs. Never got off the ground. Our commitment was about $30,000. They were looking at something in the magnitude of a quarter of a million dollars and so they just never go the project underway, so our dollars will not be invested there at this time. Pioneer Pass park acquisition for the commissioners who were around at the time. This was a preliminary plat down in the 2005 MUSA area that was never final platted. We had carved out about a 4 acre neighborhood park and there's dollars set aside in our CIP for that acquisition and those will just roll over until such time that that plat comes back. Planted 48 new trees in Lake Ann, Lake Susan, City Center and the Rec Center primarily due to drought stress and die off from the drought from this past summer. And those were through a formal bid process. We had three bidders. Wilson, a local nursery here in town was the low bid and we purchased those trees without a warranty and watered twice in the fall. When we plant trees in the fall, they have very good survival rate. The warranty costs a great deal. On a $400 tree you're probably paying $150 or $100 in warranty so we just don't warranty them. We get more trees that way and we still have a very good survival rate. Picnic tables. We'll be purchasing the first installment for our new shelter in December and right now what we're doing is working with a variety of companies that provide these. We buy a ton of tables so we say send us your best, no maintenance, recycled table. We'll take a look at them. The commissioners can have a chance to look at them. We'll probably have them delivered right here to City Hall, and we're changing because our most recent vendor that we've used for probably a dozen years has gone out of business and so they sold recycled picnic table planks. Over the past dozen years we've converted all of our wood tables to recycled and now that provider is no longer in business so we're going to start looking for a new, what I would call standard picnic table for our system and so evaluate them. Take a look at their weight. The strength ratio. A whole bunch of different things. These tables get pushed around a lot. If you haven't seen the lawn mower, how they do their lawn mowing is they mow and then they hit that thing with the mower and push it out of the way and continue on mowing so they've got to be pretty tough and take a lot of abuse and recycled all, what is not worn as wood. I would prefer a wood table personally to sit on. They're just so heed of maintenance and longevity is such a big thing that that's the way we were headed. 10 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 Daniel: Do we have any left of the old rubber coated, wire mesh ones? Hoffman: We do. Daniel: How are they holding up? Hoffman: They've probably over 20 years old now. Close to 20 years old and I just looked at some of them today at Lake Ann so. They're heavy. And those were the ones, those were some of the ones that the kids would haul out to the swimming raft and stack them up. They would haul those 600 pound tables out to the, and then stack them up in a pyramid and our maintenance guys would show up in the morning and they go, oh. Mischief. Those are the projects for 2007. We have another list underway for 2008. A couple other updates. The trail and bridge on The Preserve is progressing nicely. They have the trail abutments in and The Preserve trail is just south of Lyman and the trail is almost there. You can see where it's going to be coming up to Lyman next year. The underpass and Lyman Boulevard project is upgraded, going to happen with the school. That culvert has been moved 100, the underpass culvert under Lyman, 100 yards to the east so that's, or 100 feet to the east. Excuse me, so that's good. Any farther we can get to the east, the better for us. And then the, what I call either the Arboretum Lot 12 or the Chan Nature Preserve, that final trail we're reviewing the bids with the developer on Thursday. They've received 3 competitive bids for the project under their name. We'll review them. Select the contractor with Steiner Development and then they'll be building that trail, essentially starting this winter, depending on tree clearing and those type of things but it will most likely be completed by sometime mid to late next summer. The whole trail. So that's the update on capital projects for the commission. Stolar: Okay, thank you. Any questions for Todd? No? Okay. COMMISSION MEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS. None. COMMISSION MEMBER PRESENTATIONS: None. ADMINISTRATIVE PACKET. Daniel: Todd, how'd it go last night with City Council and the issues on our recommendations to the City Council? Hoffman: Not a lot of discussion on park and trail improvements. A couple of questions about trail projects from the Mayor, but that was before the meeting. Answered his questions and rd Truth in Taxation is December 3, again, next Monday. Monday evening and if you received your property tax estimated valuation and taxation, you probably saw a decrease most of you if you looked in the city's share at least. Not the rest of them and so that's what the council is hoping for. That's what they're planning for, and unless you saw a huge value increase, valuation increase, you probably did not see an increase in your's city share of taxes. Stolar: Other questions? No? If not, do we have a motion for adjournment? 11 Park and Rec Commission - November 27, 2007 Scharfenberg moved, Daniel seconded to adjourn the Park and Recreation Commission meeting. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 7 to 0. Submitted by Todd Hoffman Park and Rec Director Prepared by Nann Opheim 12