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PC 2008 05 20 CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING MAY 20, 2008 Chairman Papke called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. MEMBERS PRESENT: Debbie Larson, Denny Laufenburger, Dan Keefe, Kurt Papke, and Kevin Dillon MEMBERS ABSENT: Mark Undestad and Kathleen Thomas STAFF PRESENT: Bob Generous, Senior Planner; Terry Jeffrey, Water Resources Coordinator; and Joe Shamla, Project Engineer PUBLIC HEARING: LYMAN BOULEVARD: REQUEST FOR WETLAND ALTERATION PERMIT FOR PHASE I OF THE LYMAN BOULEVARD RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT LOCATED BETWEEN GALPIN BOULEVARD AND AUDUBON ROAD. APPLICANT: CARVER COUNTY/CITY OF CHANHASSEN, PLANNING CASE 08-12. Terry Jeffrey presented the staff report on this item. Papke: Kevin, start with you. Dillon: Well thank you for the very good explanation there. So it seemed like that you had to work with a lot of different agencies and so are all up and down the line, are all the different government bodies and other agencies in alignment that this is the right thing to do and have all their questions been answered? Jeffrey: Yes, that is correct. That is the reason for the Technical Evaluation Panel. We bring everybody together so that this, for instance some of the DNR issues will be way different than what would be the WCA or the Wetland Conservation Act issues. So yes, the Army Corps of Engineers will issue a permit. They have not to this point but I’ve had conversations with Christina Carballa who is the representative for the Corps for this county and the DNR has issued their permit. Chaska has reviewed it and commented on it, even though they are waiving their authority and they are comfortable with the decision at this time. And BWSR as well. Because they’re the ones that ultimately have to approve use of the BWSR road bank for it and they are fine with that. Dillon: What’s BWSR an acronym for? Jeffrey: I’m sorry. Board of Water and Soil Resources. My apologies. I tend to do that. Please feel free to ask me. Dillon: And while I’m on the subject. What’s CASH an acronym for? Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Jeffery: Oh, County State Aid Highway. Dillon: Okay. Those are all my questions. Keefe: Two questions. Can you just repeat what the timing is for each of these separate events. So with BWSR replacement, that’s why you just, it’s kind of an immediate, I mean how does that? We lose our wetland. It goes into the BWSR. At what point do they actually do their mitigation? Is there a timing aspect around that piece? Jeffrey: Chairman Papke, Commissioner Keefe. Yeah, at this time, depending on, I don’t want to say carte blanche that they already have it established everywhere, but the general practice is that BWSR already has, the Board of Water and Soil Resources already has credits available. Wetlands that have been credited and or restored specifically for this purpose. So those already exist, and then we ill just debit from that account down to some point. Keefe: Alright. So that’s essentially an immediate trans, it’s already been done in a sense, right? Jeffrey: Correct. Correct. Keefe: And then the temporary needs to be restored within? Jeffrey: They have 6 months from the time of impact. From the time that they actually begin the work in that area. Typically they will be able to get it done in that 6 months. Keefe: That’s 6 month from the time from the completion of the road or from the? Jeffrey: No, from the time they actually go in and disturb that wetland. Keefe: Okay. Jeffrey: I don’t know Joe, have you seen the plan as to how long they plan on surcharging for it? That’s the only place where they might have an issue because there might be some surcharge areas that are greater than 6 months. Shamla: No, I’ve not… Jeffrey: So if in the event that does happen, it’s encumbent upon them to come to the LG and say look, we will not be able to restore this within that 6 months and then request an extension to that, yeah. Keefe: Okay. You know one other thing in the report was, you know it looks like the wetland permit needs to follow the conditional use permit guidelines. It looks like there was some reference to that in the report. Can you give us some more clarification on that and then how do we kind of think of it if, you know do we need to sort of stack this? I presume you would sort of stack it up against the conditional use permit. I didn’t see anything that. 2 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Jeffrey: Right. I think what you’re referring to, and I’ll be perfectly honest, the boardwalk itself is guided by conditional use? Generous: Well the process for reviewing wetland alteration permits is guided by, it follows the same procedures as a conditional use permit and so we have to make the findings under that. There’s 12 conditions that we look at and see how it complies with those. Generally under CUP they have standards but in the city’s ordinance we have the wetland protection ordinance which was really the standards that we have to follow so the sequencing and mitigation requirements are basically the standards that we comply with. Keefe: Okay so for us to you know approve it, I mean do we then need to see the sort of the 12 steps and kind of how the city views 12 steps if that’s the standard that we’re supposed to measure up against? I mean you know it was on page 1 of the Findings of Fact. Just says wetland alteration follows the conditional use permit criteria but you know a lot of times we’ll see this kind of stuff that yes, it meets this. Yes, it meets that. You know particularly when we’re looking at like a variance. Generous: Right and these, under 3 on the Findings of Fact and recommendation, 3(a) through (l) are the actual findings there. Keefe: Okay. Alright. So what you’re saying is that this essentially will meet each one of these and that, okay. Generous: Yes. At least in mitigation. Keefe: Okay, fair enough. That’s all I have. Laufenburger: First of all Mr. Jeffrey I appreciate you taking time to explain this notion about the wetland bank credits and stuff. That’s, I think it’s important to understanding that I have a much better feel for it now. As you look at this project, what’s the risk for the City of Chanhassen? Jeffrey: I honestly do not, I mean with the exception of the out fall at Bluff Creek, which I will watch carefully. Laufenburger: Potential erosion? Jeffrey: Yeah, potential erosion there. If it were not for the fact that they were putting in the storm water infrastructure where we’ll actually have a net increase in storage, and that’s one of our biggest issues that we’re dealing with in Bluff Creek is we have all of this volume of water that’s going there without being abated anywhere, but because of the storm water infrastructure that’s going in, actually it will improve conditions draining to Bluff Creek in many ways, so I do not see any great risks involved with this, but again whenever you have any construction project, it will change existing conditions from what are there, there’s always the possibility of unforeseen happenings, but I think the plan has been designed very well and the review has been quite thorough. We’ve had other agencies reviewing it and they’re comfortable with that. 3 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Laufenburger: And who is the, who is responsible for the monitoring to ensure that everything follows according to plan? Is that your responsibility? Jeffrey: I am responsible to, we do it a number of ways. In this case SRF, who is the consultant for the county, will monitor that twice a year and provide an annual report. I will review their findings. Whether I concur with it or not. If after a 5 year time period we found that it is not satisfactorily meeting wetland conditions, they would be required then to either fix that area and make changes to meet that, or they would be required to find new compensatory mitigation elsewhere. Regarding the rest of the project, there will be construction observers on site. I would again assume it’s going to be SRF and the county themselves. I would assume we’ll have some down there but it’s not our project so. Shamla: The City typically has people watch utilities go in. The city utilities. We’ll have somebody there from Kimley-Horn who will watch out for the, they’ll watch for the erosion and such. Jeffrey: And in addition to that, Chip Hentges who’s with the Carver County Soil and Water Conservation District, tends to do all our erosion control inspections in this town and assures compliance with the National Pollution Discharge Elimination System permitting program for small site constructions, which this would fall under so there will be quite a bit of monitoring. Laufenburger: Thank you. That’s my questions. Papke: Questions? Larson: I think pretty much everybody’s covered everything I had asked. I guess the only thing I’d have is so when is the potential start date and finish date to have all this complete? Or should I say wish list as far as. Jeffrey: Last I had heard, they had wanted to be starting this project in May. That’s quickly passing. I have not heard a finish date though. I don’t know if you had Joe. Shamla: I have not. Jeffrey: Yeah, I had not at this time. Larson: Well I’m just thinking in terms of traffic impact. What that will have. Jeffrey: Yeah, I can check with Paul Oehme, City Engineer. I know he’s, he would have that information. Get that for the commission. I do know that we’re not going to be driving down it much this year. Larson: Okay. Jeffrey: If I may Chair Papke. 4 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Papke: Sure. Jeffrey: One thing I would like to point out, in my conditions of approval, item 3, which is on page 5 of 5. Item 3 reads, the applicant shall amend Appendix C, Vegetation Management Plan and Proposed Seed Mixes to clearly state performance standards for the establishment of vegetation in the restoration areas. Barbara Walter from SRF provided that information for me today and it was satisfactory to meet that condition so just wanted to make you aware of that. Papke: Okay, great. Thanks for the very complete report. You proactively answered most of my questions. The only one I have left is, I always try to be conscious of the city creating new maintenance overhead for itself. In this particular case we’re construction a boardwalk, which those of us that have a deck on our home know that there’s periodic maintenance for that required. I’m just wondering if there was any kind of a cost analysis. What’s it going to cost to build this and maintain it over the long run? Did we chose the least cost alternative here? Can you make any comment on the economics of the boardwalk. Jeffrey: Unfortunately I have to say that I can’t at this time. I have had conversations with Todd Hoffman and he did feel that it was durable enough to handle plowing in the winter. He felt, it was my understanding that the materials would not be what a traditional deck is. It would not require power washing. Papke: Wood construction or what? Jeffrey: The only wood construction would be the pier itself. I believe it’s a synthetic material that would be the decking, but again I can certainly talk to Todd Hoffman and get those answers for you. Papke: Very good. Alright. With that is there anyone here representing the applicant? From Carver County or. Jeffrey: Yeah, I’ll be representing the applicant. Papke: Okay. Hearing that I close the public hearing and bring it back to the commissioners. Does anybody have any discussion or comments they want to make before. Dillon: Don’t we need to hear public comment? Papke: Oh, I’m sorry. I completely skipped over public comment. Rookie commissioner. Anybody from the public want to comment on this? I didn’t assume so but take that chance. Okay. A little quick on the draw. Any other comments from the commissioners. Otherwise I’ll entertain a motion. Keefe: I’ll make a motion. Planning Commission recommends approval of Wetland Alteration Permit #2008-12 for the reconstruction of CSAH 18 (Lyman Boulevard) and appurtenant facilities with the following conditions, 1 through 4. 5 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Papke: Is there a second? Dillon: I’ll second. Keefe moved, Dillon seconded that the Planning Commission recommends approval of Wetland Alteration Permit #2008-12 for the reconstruction of CSAH 18 (Lyman Boulevard) and appurtenant facilities with the following conditions: 1. The applicant shall submit the Application for Withdrawal of Wetland Credits from the Minnesota Wetland Bank to the BWSR Wetland Bank Administrator and no impacts to wetland shall occur prior to the local authorities, the account holder and the user of the credits having received a letter of approval from the Wetland Bank Administrator stating that these credits have been debited. 2. The boardwalk shall be installed across the wetland as a permanent structure. 3. The applicant shall amend Appendix C, “Vegetation Management Plan and Proposed Seed Mixes” to clearly state performance standards for the establishment of vegetation in the restoration areas. 4. All temporary impacts shall be restored to their pre-construction condition within six months of the activity which results in the wetland impact. All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. PUBLIC HEARING: SUPERDOG COUNTRY CLUB: REQUEST FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (PUD) AMENDMENT TO PERMIT A VETERINARY CLINIC/KENNEL; AND SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR A 21,000 SQUARE FOOT ONE-STORY VETERINARY ND CLINICN AND KENNEL ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2910 82 STREET (LOT 2, RD BLOCK 1, ARBORETUM BUSINESS PARK 3 ADDITION). APPLICANT: KAREN JACKSON/CHASKA GATEWAY PARTNERS LLP, PLANNING CASE 08-11. Public Present: Name Address Karen A. Jackson 10104 Indigo Drive, Eden Prairie David O. Hansen 10104 Indigo Drive, Eden Prairie Bob Generous presented the staff report on this item. Papke: Start down on the right end this time. 6 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Larson: Okay. So really as far as the problem that we have got with the landscaping is the fact that they only have the 3 overstory trees and the requirement is 6. But it looks like they’ve beefed it up in other areas. Is it that large of an issue or? Generous: Well it’s just compliance with the code. It’s something that they can do. A lot of times in these buffer yard requirements they miss the shrubs that are required under our ordinance. That’s usually the biggest difference in it. Also the parking lot landscaping and some of the buffer yard landscaping can be mixed and there can be some adjustments within the overall plan because in some areas they may be over. Larson: Well that’s what I was saying. I’m wondering if it’s just a matter of adjusting what they’ve got because overall it looks quite nice. Generous: Some but there’s a few more that are required. Larson: Ah, okay. Generous: So that’s something that we usually work out as part of the building permit review. To make sure that they meet all the ordinance requirements. Larson: Okay. And then I was looking at the rendering of what the front of the building is going to look like. Are they being held to the same standards on, just in case this were to change use at some point? It looks like there’s 3 entrances. I mean typically on a building like for what they’re using this for, do they really need to have the 3 entrances? Is this all windows? Is it fake windows? It’s hard to tell really. Generous: Well the front elevation complies with our fenestration requirement. The break up of the doorways, it seemed to make sense if you look at their floorplan you can see, they have that main reception area. If it ever stop being this, it would be easy to put in partition walls to separate the use, but it’s anticipated that this would be an ongoing operation. Re-use of the facility is easy. You have the connection between the two buildings. There will be sufficient separation that it complies with all fire code requirements so if they don’t have the 10 feet, then they just have to up the fire rating on the walls in that little corridor area. Larson: Okay. Alright, that’s all I have. Papke: Okay. Laufenburger: I walked the site. I think it’s ready for a dog kennel. Keefe: You know in regards to the amendment to the PUD, you know for the use, I assume the comments you got back were positive in terms of you know, things that come to mind, unless there’s a dog barking and then noise, and the question I have sort of on that is what is our ability to sort of manage that if for some reason it becomes a problem for some of the neighbors? And then the other piece would potentially be you know along a sort of pollution line potentially in 7 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 terms of maintaining this. You got a lot of dogs. You’ve got a lot of dog waste in there. How do, how do we sort of manage that you know piece of the business and how do we control that? Generous: Primarily I’ll let Karen explain the operation and go into that but the city does have the nuisance ordinance to fall back on should it become a problem. Based on what they’ve advised me of the way their operation works, it shouldn’t be an issue but, and that was the one, the two issues that was the one person that was opposed to it, or negative about the idea was the potential noise and the feces from the dogs. Keefe: Yeah, well I mean to the extent you know it could create a nuisance smell of some sort if it isn’t appropriately cared for and/or the noise piece of it so I guess we’ll let the applicant. Generous: Like I said, the ordinance does have a nuisance section that would address that. Keefe: For both of those issues? Generous: For both those issues. Keefe: Okay, thank you. Dillon: I think all my questions have been asked. Papke: Okay. I just had a couple quick ones. Can you bring back the picture of the site plan? Question on the traffic flow. We don’t see that many proposals where there’s two entrances so close like this. Can you comment on the rationale and the appropriateness of these two. Generous: I think I’d rather have Joe address that. nd Shamla: For this particular site, 82 Street, city code does allow two entrances on here. The minimum driveway distance required is 50 feet, and those are guidelines actually. That’s something that we don’t have to follow. These particular ones are separated by 100 feet. Also they talked about the possibility in the future if these two did separate, that they’d have an entrance for each building… Papke: Is it going to be signed as one as an entry, one as an exit or is there going to be anything suggestive of you know which one you should go in or out on? Shamla: This will not be signed that way. With the fire codes, the fire department likes having both entrances so they can get in and out easily. So they don’t have to drive in and back up in case there ever was a fire. Papke: Okay. The only other question I had was relative to the elevations and the acoustics of the site. There’s quite a steep hill on the what, the northwest corner so is that going to act as kind of a reflector to kind of bounce the noise towards the southeast? Is that kind of, so in theory that will keep it somewhat quieter for the Holiday station next door but what about the people across 8 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 the street. Is this going to act like a concentrator of any of the barking or anything like that or any, was there any acoustic analysis done at all or any thought put to that? Generous: No specific acoustic analysis but the thought process was the placement of the play area between, behind the building and in that bowl would sort of create a block for noises coming out front. Papke: Okay. Generous: And definitely for noise because it’s going to the north, it would serve as a great block. Papke: Sure. Generous: And to the east also the buildings in the way, between most of these play areas. Papke: So it will be trapped somewhat back in there, that’s kind of the rationale? Generous: Corralled in that one area. Shamla: If you notice on the site plan, they are added a pretty decent buffer on the Holiday side to keep… Papke: Alright. If we could have the applicant come up to the podium and state your name and address and let us know what you think of this. Dave Hansen: For those of you who have not met us yet, I’m Dave Hansen. This is Karen Jackson and I’m just going to say a few things. You want our address first? Papke: Yeah, wherever you’re from. If you could just state. Dave Hansen: We’re from Eden Prairie, up on Indigo Drive. I was a long time resident of Chanhassen. In fact I raised my kids in Chanhassen. Went to Chanhassen/Chaska schools, etc. I lived on the south side of Lake Riley for about 25 years. 27 years. Just a couple quick things about the building that are really positive as a builder, which I’ve done most of my life. It’s nice number one that there’s a big demand for something that you want to do, and in this case it’s a very pleasant demand. The statistics are basically 75% of the people in your community are pet owners. I’m not going to beat this up at all but a majority of those are dogs and cats. Chanhassen has nothing right now, and as I have invited everyone in Chanhassen, through Mr. Generous here, to visit our facility at the Hound Dog Pet Hotel in Eden Prairie. In fact bring your kids over. Come on over and take a nice tour through there. I think you’re going to be pleasantly surprised and very happy. Papke: Is that by the scuba shop? Dave Hansen: Pardon me? 9 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Papke: Is it by the scuba shop? Karen Jackson: Yes. Dave Hansen: Right across the street from Home Depot. We have a daycare center right next to this building. This property. Rainbow Foods are right behind us Excuse me, I’ve had a head cold for about 3-4 days. We have not had one complaint in over 5 years of operation there. The building is going to be super insulated all the way through. Even our inner walls are already insulated, etc, we’re going to use a double panel cedar fence outside. Noisy dogs, I’m going to let Karen basically take over here because she’s probably one of the best managers in the country, and I’m not giving her a plug or anything, but I’ll tell you, she’s one of the best groomers in the country so if your neighbors have dogs, you’re going to be seeing her a lot. Karen Jackson: Well what’s really nice about the project is we’ve already had the experience with the Hound Dog. Hound Dog has been in existence now for 5 years and it has been you know a great plus for the city there. We’re really excited to bring this project to Chanhassen. As far as the barking levels go, it’s really easy to maintain such a pet. Pets are always a nuisance when they’re left unattended. In our case we always have 2, at least 2 or more members of staff members out with each pet. Also we always keep the pets down to a minimal you know size and order. 3-4 of them out at a time. When you think about dog kennels you’re thinking oh my gosh. The dogs are out. They’re barking all day and it’s chaos. This is not the case. This is a whole new idea of pet concept and pet facilities that we’re going to be brining and you know like once again I was saying that only a few, very few pets are let out at one time. Always being entertained. Always being played with, and so it really kind of keeps the dogs you know very happy. The clients are happy. Everybody’s happy so there really isn’t any barking whatsoever. If there should be, we bring the pet in immediately. We make sure he’s exercised. Has the proper attention and then he’s brought back into the building so he is not a nuisance. Dave Hansen: Construction wise again, we use tremendous, very, very nice materials in there. …the Hound Dog reviews and the Hound Dog over 16,000 square feet of tile alone. A lot of hardwood. Granite. You know we want a very nice appearing property and of course the City of Chanhassen’s going to benefit from that also. It’s going to be a very pleasant thing to walk into. You mentioned the two doorways. They are basically very necessary. One is in. One is out. We have tremendous daycare traffic in the mornings. Boy, this is our busiest time and we like to get it real orderly. In fact we have to have the one driveway in the middle there, but if it was out a little bit further to the east, we would have a one way in and out, you know what I mean? It would work very nice that way too but that just answered one of the questions that was brought up about the dual entrances in the building. Anything else, I think Karen can handle it for you. Karen Jackson: Any other questions? Dillon: So there’ll be a veterinary on staff too? Karen Jackson: Oh yes, absolutely. 10 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Dillon: And so will, is that just going to be like an employee of your’s? Karen Jackson: No. The building will be leased out to a veterinarian. Dillon: I see. Okay. And is that person identified yet? Karen Jackson: No. We have not looked into the project of you know kind of finding the veterinarians at this time. Dillon: And like when you’re at capacity, how many pets could you handle at one time? Karen Jackson: 138 stalls is what we have. Suites. Planned for that size of a building. Dillon: Alright. And is this like a franchise thing or you just had the idea in Eden Prairie and now you’re bringing it here or how does that work? Dave Hansen: The franchising part of it we’re still kicking it around. Hound Dog Pet Hotels is the name that we used in Eden Prairie and Superdog is the one that we’re leaning towards now in Chanhassen. But they’re both affiliated. In fact, we don’t want to say this one’s going to be even nicer than the one in Eden Prairie but as a builder you know, the more you build the same thing, you always improve on the little weaknesses here. And I’m not trying to butter you bread here at all but the Hound Dog Pet Hotel, when we built it we stood back and we looked at everybody and we said hey, what would we do different and I tell you, there were just a couple of little, tiny things that we do different so we’re real happy about starting this. I think it’s going to be a real nice facility for Chanhassen. Dillon: Great. Keefe: Well we would expect that it’d be nicer than Eden Prairie’s here in Chanhassen. Can you speak just a little bit to the operations in terms of what the hours are. You know when the pets might be outside. Kind of what staffing you know kind of would look like and that, just give us an overview so we understand when you’re operating. Karen Jackson: Sure. The facility will be operated basically the same as the Hound Dog Pet Hotel. Hours of operation are going to be Monday through Friday from approximately 7:00 in the morning to 7:00 when you’re able to pick up your pet or drop it off anytime during the daytime. You’re not limited to a set hour that you can come in, which is actually really convenient to the public. Most kennels are actually they’re limited. You have to get there between 8:00 and 10:00 you know, and I don’t know who has that kind of lifestyle anymore that you can just pin someone down to say you know so we want to be really open for the public to be able to come and you know have a free time, anytime in the day to be able to service their pets. Saturdays I believe our hours are 8:00 to 6:00 and Sundays from 10:00 to 6:00. The latest time for the pet to be out, the earliest time that the staffs will be there will be 6:00 in the morning. Once again hours of, a larger staff in the morning than in the evening. The pets have been taken care of you know throughout the day so it’s just like you know, you at home at night time, you let your dog out one more time for the little night time potty and then he’s brought 11 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 right back in so really no night time activities. Mostly in the morning. They’re out to do their little duty and then you bring them in and then they’re being fed, so the heavy duty kind of, and I don’t want to say heavy duty but the most of the play time, 10:00 to about 4:00 in the afternoon. Keefe: And then you’ve got 138, if you’re at capacity and you get a lot of dogs doing their thing out in the yard you know, I mean how do you. Karen Jackson: Oh, we’re so meticulous about this, yeah. Absolutely. Every single time a pet has, you know does a feces, we’ll pick it up immediately. There’s so much control about that. The staff, even at the Hound Dog, we’re so you know meticulous. We always have 1 or 2 people going out, even in front of the building, you know everywhere so there wouldn’t be any feces left unattended ever at the new facility. Dave Hansen: It’s constant. Absolutely constant. We like to keep it hospital clean you know and we have lots and lots of compliments about it because that’s the biggest thing. Karen is absolutely immaculate. So am I and to keep the place immaculate all the time, and like I mentioned, you have a standing invitation. Just come on over anytime. See…and we’ll be happy to give you a tour. Laufenburger: How many employees? Dave Hansen: No guns allowed by the way so leave your guns. Laufenburger: How many employees? Karen Jackson: We have approximately 18 employees. About 14 of them being full time. Larson: Love the names. Karen Jackson: Thank you. Larson: I think you guys covered it all so. Dillon: So if people go away for a week or something, they can keep their pets there too overnight? Karen Jackson: Absolutely. I mean you can go for a day. Half a day. Whatever you know, whatever you need for the time that you’re away from your home. Dillon: So does someone have to stay there overnight then? A staff member. Karen Jackson: No, actually the need really is, we’re going to have web cams and also it is completely secured you know with the sprinkler system and the police department, fire, security levels so it’s a very safe building. You don’t need someone in there overnight. 12 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Dave Hansen: The health standards are really wonderful. There’s constant air exchanging in the building at all times. It’s air conditioned with 5, in that building maybe 7 different zones of heating and air conditioning, and like I say it’s super sound proofed. Papke: One last follow up question on Dan’s. Once the animal waste is picked up, where is it, how is it held and how is it disposed of? Dave Hansen: It’s bagged. Bags are secured and we have a specific dumpster for that, which we get daily service on. Papke: And where is the dumpster stored on the site plan? Karen Jackson: On this one we have one on the, located on the east side of the building on the east of the parking lot, if you can see that. Also we have another dumpster on the west side of the building, on the edge of that parking lot. Papke: And I have to ask about the pool. Dave Hansen: You can’t swim in it. Papke: I can’t. Karen Jackson: The pool’s going to be a great asset because you know there’s so many people that really have you know the larger breeds. The Golden Retrievers, the Labradors and it’s, there’s another kennel that I know of that’s out in New Germany and people will drive one hour just to get out to her because she has a swimming pool, and what a fantastic idea. I’d love to have that concept just brought right here to Chanhassen because that is, nobody else here in the whole state has that idea and it’s right here in the city and that’s what’s really neat. You don’t have to travel an hour outside of the metro. I’m really excited about that. Larson: So is a dog pool kept like a human pool with chlorine and such? Karen Jackson: Oh yeah, absolutely. It will be cleaned and it will have filtration. It will be a heated pool. It will be covered in the evenings. Dave Hansen: Even more so…change the sand probably 3 times a summer. 4 times a summer when you do it at your home probably once a year. Larson: Okay. Well I have a yellow lab so. Karen Jackson: Well you’ll have to come in. Larson: We have a pond and she likes that pretty well. Dave Hansen: And it will be a shallower pool too. There won’t be a driving board on it. 13 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 Larson: She’s not picky. Papke: Any other questions for the applicants? Thank you very much. That was very informative. Dave Hansen: Our pleasure. Papke: Okay. Anyone from the public who’d like to come up and ask a question or make a comment, render an opinion on the application? Seeing none, we’ll bring the public hearing to a close. Bring it back to members of comments. Anybody like to make any comments or? Dillon: Well I think it’s a great use of this little spot of land that’s there. The one negative comment that we heard was the barking and all that and I know that area. There’s not a lot of residents that live near there. It’s really pretty businessy so I don’t think that there’s a lot of down side to or noise, that if they do really hit a ruckus, that it’s going to bother that many people…so I think this is a good use of the land. It’s a good concept for a small business. I think we should encourage those and so I’m in favor of it. Keefe: No, I’m very excited. I’m one of the 75% and I will probably enjoy using that facility as well. Laufenburger: Is Paws, Claws and Hooves, is that a going concern? South down on 101. Papke: Was the last time I checked. Generous: It’s still there. Papke: Yeah. Laufenburger: I think this is way overdue. We must have, well if there’s 75%, there must be 5,000 dogs plus that’s right on the border of Chaska. Can you imagine people who are, anyway. Larson: I’m all for it too. I mean it is a long time coming and I have used you know the Paws, Claws and Hooves facility and I certainly looked at the, is it the Hound Dog? I want to call it the Hound Dog Hilton but, I mean it just looks like a fabulous facility and I think this is great so. Papke: Yeah, this looks super. I’m really impressed that you’re combining this with a veterinary operation. I think that will be a tremendous asset. My daughter worked her way through college by working at your competition in Eden Prairie out on Shady Oak Road out there and so I know what a not so beautiful facility can look like. So with that I’ll entertain a motion here. Dillon: I’ll make a motion that the Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends that the City Council approve the amendment to the Planned Unit Development design standards for Arboretum Business Park, amending Section B, Permitted Uses, Subsection Commercial Uses to permit kennels and/or veterinary clinics on Lot 2, Block 1 and the Chanhassen Planning Commission recommends that City Council approve the Site Plan for Planning Case 08-11 for a 14 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 21,020 square foot one-story kennel and veterinary clinic, plans prepared by Adsit Architects and Planning and James R. Hill, Incorporated dated April 18, 2008, subject to the following conditions number 1 through 29. Papke: Okay. Is there a second? Keefe: Second. Papke: Any amendments or friendly amendments or, okay. Dillon moved, Keefe seconded that the Planning Commission recommends that City Council approve the amendment to the Planned Unit Development design standards for Arboretum Business Park, amending section b. Permitted Uses, subsection Commercial Uses, to permit pet kennels and/or veterinary clinics on Lot 2, Block 1.” All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. Dillon moved, Keefe seconded that the Planning Commission recommends that City Council approve the Site Plan for Planning Case #08-11, for a 21,020 square-foot, one-story kennel and veterinary clinic, plans prepared by Adsit Architects and Planning and James R. Hill, Inc., dated April 18, 2008, subject to the following conditions: 1.The applicant shall enter into a site plan agreement with the City and provide the necessary security to guarantee erosion control, site restoration and landscaping. 2.The developer shall provide a bike rack and look at incorporating a gathering space/employee break area on the site including benches and/or tables. 3.A lighting plan shall be provided to the City for review and approval. 4.The buildings are required to have automatic fire extinguishing systems. 5.Building plans must be prepared and signed by design professionals licensed in the State of Minnesota. 6.Retaining walls over four feet high must be designed by a professional engineer and a permit must be obtained prior to construction. 7.A minimum of two handicap accessible parking spaces are required; one of the two must be “van-accessible”. rd 8.Lot 2, Block 1, Arboretum Business Park 3 Addition is subject to a park dedication fee of $20,790. The fee is due and payable at the time of building permit issuance. 9.Increase plantings for parking lot trees and buffer yard areas in order to meet ordinance requirements. 15 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 10.The proposed fence shall be located outside of any drainage and utility easements and any required bufferyard plantings shall be located on the exterior of the fence. 11.The applicant shall include more than one species of overstory tree to meet the landscaping requirements. 12.A 10-foot buffer where no grading can take place is required around the sanitary sewer on the west side of the property. 13.Keep a minimum of 2 percent slope in the grass areas, 1 percent in the pavement areas, and .5 percent along the curb lines. 14.If importing or exporting material for development of the site is necessary, the applicant will be required to supply the City with detailed haul routes. 15.Building permits are required for all retaining walls four feet tall or higher and must be designed by a Structural Engineer registered in the State of Minnesota. A fence must be placed at the top of the wall for safety. 16.The connection of water must be to the City of Chanhassen system. Sewer connection will be to the City of Chaska. Approval for the sewer connection and the sewer extension permit must be filed with the City of Chaska. 17.The sanitary sewer along the west property line, storm sewer along the east property line, and storm sewer along the south property line shall be publicly owned and maintained. All other utilities within the property boundary will be privately owned and maintained. 18.Details must be provided for all proposed storm sewer, sanitary sewer, and watermain crossings. Actual elevations of existing utilities shall be verified for accuracy. A minimum vertical separation of 18 inches is required at all storm, sanitary, and watermain crossings. Contact Gordy Stauff at 952-227-1166 with the City of Chanhassen Engineering Department 48 hours prior to connecting to the storm and sanitary sewer. 19.Each new lot is subject to the sanitary sewer and water hookup charges. The 2008 trunk hookup charge is $4,799 for watermain. Sanitary sewer hookup fees are unknown at this time, but will be paid to the City of Chaska. Sanitary sewer and watermain hookup fees may be specially assessed against the parcel at the time of building permit issuance. All of these charges are based on the number of SAC units assigned by the Met Council and are due at the time of building permit issuance. 20.All of the utility improvements are required to be constructed in accordance with the City's latest edition of Standard Specifications and Detail Plates. The applicant is also required to provide the City with the necessary financial security in the form of a letter of credit or cash escrow in the amount of $15,400.00 to guarantee the installation of the storm sewer, erosion control, and seeding. The applicant must also notify the City after installation of the erosion 16 Planning Commission Meeting - May 20, 2008 control and 48 hours prior to the commencement of grading. Permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies will be required, including the MPCA and the Department of Health. 21.Easements will need to be adjusted. The southern easement line shall be revised to be 10 feet north of the existing storm line. The easement on the east side of the site should be shifted west 5 feet due to the depth of the storm sewer. Also, an easement is needed 10 feet southwest of the storm sewer in the northeast corner of the site. Revisions to the easement will require the old easements to be vacated and new easements to be dedicated. 22.Revise the Peavey Road access grades to allow access to fire trucks. 23.Change the note on the plan which states the City will be building the trail to “the trail will be constructed by others”. Shift the location of the trail north so that it is near the property line. Cooperation between Superdog and the developer of the property is needed to properly locate and construct the trail. 24.The fence within the drainage and utility easements must be built with removable panels, be above the ground to allow drainage, and have an 8-foot gate where it crosses the utility lines. 25.Encroachment agreements will be needed for the fence and the parking lot in the drainage and utility easements. 26.Upon completion of the public street, the applicant shall submit a set of “as-built” plans signed by a professional engineer. 27.Erosion control blanket shall be installed on all slopes greater than or equal to 3:1. 28.Silt fence shall be installed down gradient of all exposed soils. 29.The applicant shall apply for and obtain permits from the appropriate regulatory agencies (e.g., Riley-Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District, Army Corps of Engineers, MPCA) and comply with their conditions of approval.” All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Keefe noted the verbatim and summary minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated April 15, 2008 as presented. COMMISSION PRESENTATIONS: None. Chairman Papke adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 7:55 p.m. Submitted by Kate Aanenson Community Development Director Prepared by Nann Opheim 17