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CHANHASSEN PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SUMMARY MINUTES
JUNE 17, 2008
Chairman Papke called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Kurt Papke, Kathleen Thomas, Debbie Larson, Mark Undestad, and
Denny Laufenburger
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Dan Keefe and Kevin Dillon
STAFF PRESENT:
Kate Aanenson, Community Development Director; Sharmeen Al-Jaff,
Senior Planner; and Joe Shamla, Project Engineer
PUBLIC HEARING:
MOE VARIANCE: REQUEST FOR VARIANCE FROM SECTION 20-904 FOR
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN EXCESS OF 1,000 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY
ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL (RR) LOCATED AT 1425 BLUFF CREEK DRIVE.
APPLICANT: BRAD MOE - PLANNING CASE 08-13.
Kate Aanenson presented the staff report on this item. Commissioners Larson and Laufenburger
asked for clarification on whether a permanent residence was being built on the property.
Commissioner Laufenburger also asked about necessary permits. Chairman Papke asked about
the possibility of the property changing owners or being subdivided. The applicant, Brad Moe,
14372 Westridge Drive, Eden Prairie explained his intention to keep the barn and the property as
it was originally subdivided as large lot. Chairman Papke opened the public hearing. No one
spoke and the public hearing was closed.
Undestad moved, Thomas seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission
recommends approval of Planning Case 08-13 for 4,145 square foot variance from the
maximum 1,000 square foot detached accessory structure for the construction of a 1,568
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square foot detached garage/shop on Lot 1, Block 1, The Hesse Farm 2 Addition, based
on adoption of the attached Findings of Fact and Action, subject to the following
conditions:
1. The applicant must apply for a demolition permit prior to removal of any structures.
2. The applicant must apply for a building permit.
3. The applicant must supply a financial security for the removal of the existing garage upon
completion of the proposed garage. The old garage must be removed within 30 days after
issuance of a certificate of occupancy for the new garage.
4. The accessory structure may only be used for private residential or agricultural/farming
related uses.
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All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
PUBLIC HEARING:
NICK’S STORAGE & PARKING: REQUEST FOR AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT NO. 87-2; VARIANCE REQUESTS; AND AN APPEAL OF AN
ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION ON PROPERTY ZONED FRINGE BUSINESS
DISTRICT (BF), LOCATED AT 1900 STOUGHTON AVENUE. APPLICANT:
JACQUES GIBBS - PLANNING CASE 08-10.
Public Present:
Name Address
Craig Mertz P.O. Box 623, Chanhassen
Nick Bono McCain and Associates
Wendy Langley Nick’s Storage
Jacques Gibbs 6921 Beach Road, Eden Prairie
Kate Aanenson presented the staff report on this item. Commissioner Larson asked staff to
comment on the statement in the staff report regarding the lot being split and under separate
ownership, which is a violation of the conditions of the CUP. Commissioner Undestad asked for
clarification of the hard surface coverage, storm water ponding and development potential over
the two parcels. Commissioner Laufenburger asked for clarification of the storm water ponding
requirements. Commissioner Thomas asked for clarification of the sign requests. Commissioner
Laufenburger asked about Chaska’s sign regulations in the surrounding area. Chairman Papke
asked to clarify the number of additional outdoor storage spaces in relation to the impervious
surface coverage. Craig Mertz, P.O. Box 623, Chanhassen, speaking on behalf of the applicant,
discussed the nature of the business when it was purchased in 2004. Nick Bono with McCain
and Associates addressed engineering issues related to storm water ponding. Wendy Langley
with Nick’s Storage explained how they did not know anything about the city related issues
when they purchased the business. The owner, Jacques Gibbs, 15955 Carver Highlands Drive,
Carver suggested working together with Mr. Dungey, the owner of Parcel B, to solve the storm
water ponding issue. He also asked to keep the pylon sign, which is similar to what is allowed in
Chaska. Chairman Papke called the public hearing to order. No one spoke and the public
hearing was closed. After comments from the commission, the following motions were made.
Laufenburger moved, Undestad seconded that the Planning Commission recommends
approval of an amendment to Conditional Use Permit #87-2 to permit a total of 60 outdoor
storage spaces to be located in Phase III of the site with the following conditions:
1.The 60 parking stalls for various vehicle storage, shall be confined to the area labeled
Phase III in the staff report and the area shall have a gravel surface.
2.The applicant shall provide 15 Black Hills Spruce along the fence line to provide 100
percent screening of the outdoor storage area.
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3.The applicant shall work with staff to maximize the stormwater treatment on Parcel A.
a.Based on the calculations for the combined pond, the capacity will be exceeded for
the north pond during the 100-year event. An emergency overflow must be shown
for both ponds. This emergency overflow shall require permanent stabilization.
b.An alternative outlet must be utilized to minimize disruption to Parcel B.
4.The submitted stormwater calculation s shall be revised as necessary prior to installation
of the Infiltration Ponds.
5.Storm pipe material shall be HDPE or RCP.
6.Based upon existing soil conditions and pond design, infiltration is likely to occur. This
should be accounted for in the model.
7.A detailed erosion control plan will be needed. At a minimum this plan shall include:
a.Erosion control blanket (category 3) on all slopes 3:1 or steeper. This includes the
ponds.
b.Perimeter silt fence needs to be shown. This shall be heavy duty down gradient of the
two pond features and any removals associated with the storm sewer placement.
c.A re-vegetation plan is required for all disturbed areas. Deep-rooted woody
vegetation should be used along the north side of the north pond.
8.The area adjacent to the northern limits of the proposed outdoor storage area should have
some type of filter strip and energy dissipation best management practice.
9.The applicant shall provide security to ensure the infiltration ponds are installed.
10.Any discharge to the Highway 212 right-of-way requires written approval from MnDOT.
11.A drainage and utility easement shall be placed over the infiltration ponds up to the high
water level.
12.Any additional development to Parcel A or Parcel B shall require additional stormwater
ponding.
13. The 60 outdoor storage units shall not increase the hard surface coverage on the
site.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
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Planning Commission Summary - June 17, 2008
Laufenburger moved, Undestad seconded that the Planning Commission recommends
approval of a sign variance to allow a monument sign along Highway 212 frontage, in
addition to the permitted monument sign along Stoughton Avenue with the following
conditions:
1.The monument sign along Highway 212 shall comply with the sign ordinance requirements
of the Chanhassen City Code.
2.The sign along Stoughton Avenue shall comply with the sign ordinance requirements of the
Chanhassen City Code.
3.The pylon sign along Highway 212 must be removed.
4.A sign permit must be approved prior to replacing the monument signs along Stoughton
Avenue and Highway 212.
All voted in favor and the motion carried unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
PUBLIC HEARING:
ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 20, ZONING.
Sharmeen Al-Jaff presented the staff report highlighting amendments to Chapter 20 regarding
signage, conditional use permits, interim use permits, pre-application meetings with developers
or homeowners, planned unit development, commercial industrial buffer yard and setback
requirements. Chairman Papke asked for clarification in the wording regarding buffer yard
setbacks in planned unit developments, and noted that the 20% number for the size of logos on
signs seemed a bit arbitrary. After discussion, the Planning Commission decided to recommend
permitting up to 30% for logos on signs. There was no one present for the public hearing.
Larson moved, Undestad seconded that the Chanhassen Planning Commission
recommends that the City Council adopt the attached ordinance amending Chapter 20 of
the Chanhassen City Code with amendments changing the words “may” to “shall” and that
logos on signs shall be permitted up to 30%. All voted in favor and the motion carried
unanimously with a vote of 5 to 0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Larson noted the verbatim and summary
minutes of the Planning Commission meeting dated June 3, 2008 as presented.
Chairman Papke adjourned the Planning Commission meeting at 8:26 p.m.
Submitted by Kate Aanenson
Community Development Director
Prepared by Nann Opheim
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